Idol Headlines for 01/02/11

Today’s Idol Appearances

  • Paula Abdul is interviewed on CBS Sunday Morning. Check your local listings

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More Headlines after the JUMP…

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J.Lo Tells Indoor Playground to Shoe

Jennifer Lopez didn’t throw on her Louboutins, but she was allowed to keep her boots on at an allegedly “shoe-free” kids indoor playground.

The 41-year-old “American Idol” judge took her twins and five (FIVE!) helpers to Bright Child indoor playground in Agoura Hills recently.

We were told the policy there is that absolutely everyone has to be shoe-free — but J.Lo was allowed to hang out with her boots firmly placed on her diva feet. Ugg!

Read more at TMZ

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HOFF HIS ROCKER: DAVID HASSELHOFF IS BGT’S ‘DIVA’

Show boss Simon Cowell, 51, and Piers Morgan, 45, are both leaving the judging panel this year and the Hoff believes he is the real star of the series, say show sources.

But insiders fear the 58-year-old actor could be “too American” to understand the British public’s talents.

Our source on the show revealed: “The Hoff has already got a huge list of demands and the auditions don’t even start until this week.

Read more at the Daily Star

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X FACTOR SUPREMO SIMON COWELL IN RAGE OVER CHERYL COLE

SEETHING Simon Cowell has threatened to pull out of the American X Factor if Cheryl Cole isn’t given a seat on the judging panel.

The music mogul is at loggerheads with US producers who think the babe, 27, is too much of an unknown quantity Stateside.

Our X Factor insider said: “Simon is clashing heads with US producers who don’t want Cheryl on board.

Read more at Daily Star

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The krumper: Russell Ferguson

AT AN AGE WHEN MOST people are still perfecting how to walk, Russell Ferguson was already dancing, beating his tiny hands and feet in rhythm to the music.

“It’s always been a spirituality inside of me,” he says. “When the music comes on, I’m the kid who gets up and dances.”

It’s served him well. A year ago, Ferguson, who grew up and still lives in Roxbury, wowed the judges on “So You Think You Can Dance,’’ krumping his way to a $250,000 payday and, he hopes, a career in TV, movies, and on stage. (For all you fuddy-duddies, krumping is an LA-grown street dance, characterized by exaggerated movements – arm swings, chest pops, and stomps.)

Read more at Boston Globe

  • lorismile

    How many Americans have heard ot Cheryl Cole? This is American X Factor, not UK X Factor. I agree with US producers on this one.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I agree with the producers too. I haven’t seen anything about Cheryl Cole that would make her indispensable as a judge for the U.S. X-Factor.

  • Andy11

    I’m assuming (hoping) she is the really pretty Irish girl? If so, she would be a big plus for me. And anyone in that position can become a celebrity instantly. Did anyone know Randy Jackson before Idol? It’s all about the chemistry.

  • Valentin432

    I’m assuming (hoping) she is the really pretty Irish girl? If so, she would be a big plus for me

    She’s not irish, there’s an irish on the panel but he is the other old guy opposite of Simon.
    She’s the pretty girl from North of England with the thick accent while Danii is the pretty girl from Australia.

    Cheryl is beloved in the UK and is a pretty big pop star there, it’s very difficult for foreigners to make it in the US but with that gig to launch her carreer, anything is possible.

  • saga

    I think they should keep Cheryl as a judge, she’s done a good job on UK X factor.

  • lorismile

    Cheryl is beloved in the UK and is a pretty big pop star there, it’s very difficult for foreigners to make it in the US but with that gig to launch her carreer, anything is possible.

    Which is probably why Simon’s pushing so hard for her. For me, it’s another reason not to watch his show. First SueBo..and now this. No thanks. I’ve had enough of Simon shoving his peeps down my throat.

  • smeggingnuts

    I can understand why J.Lo kept her shoes on. Its not like she was going to acctually play with her children that was what the 5 helpers where for. ;P

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja
  • Nina1

    that was what the 5 helpers where for. ;P

    But of course! Does anyone really expect her to still be Jenny from the block?

  • lorismile

    Jenny from the block?

    HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! OMG…That was awesome!

  • girlygirl

    Five helpers for 2 kids is a bit of overkill. 2 helpers (I’m assuming helper = nanny/au pair?) maybe, but 5? lol. I don’t thinking J-Lo keeping her boots on is a big deal, though…

    As for Cheryl Cole, I don’t care either way. The judges shouldn’t be the stars of the show.

  • bananafish

    Simon wants Cheryl on the US x-factor so he can launch her career in the US. Nice to be helping a friend out, but you can be sure he will have her american career under his management. She has a couple of albums already in the can, and no doubt he will release her “new” single to co-incide with the buzz as the show goes on air and people start asking who is she. Then she’ll do a peformance on a live show and voila, he has his shows first superstar guaranteed.

  • CindyM

    Eh, I don’t care if Cheryl is on X-Factor, I plan to watch anyway :) I didn’t know Randy Jackson or Simon Cowell from Joe Blow on the street when Idol started, so no biggie.

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    Simon wants Cheryl on the US x-factor so he can launch her career in the US. Nice to be helping a friend out, but you can be sure he will have her american career under his management. She has a couple of albums already in the can, and no doubt he will release her “new” single to co-incide with the buzz as the show goes on air and people start asking who is she. Then she’ll do a peformance on a live show and voila, he has his shows first superstar guaranteed.

    Cheryl is not signed to Simon’s label. I think she is signed to Universal.

  • Ratna12

    Trilling Songbirds Clip Their Wings

    “What all those singers have in common is a delivery far less virtuosic than the melisma queens of old. (Some, like Taylor Swift, they may not be vocally capable of it either.) None is likely to inspire contestants who will stand before Jennifer Lopez and Steven Tyler on the next season of “American Idol.” Rather than wrestling the melodies to the ground, these singers adhere closely to them.”

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    That is an interesting article. I’ve never been a fan of Diva-like performances , that’s why I always fast forward performances of Jennifer Hudson. My opinion only. It should be interesting what will happen to Idol this year.

  • larc

    US X-Factor producers should tell Simon “Not no, but hell no!” on Cheryl Cole as a judge. If Simon pulls out, he will likely be liable for a huge breach of contract suit.

  • tripp_ncwy

    Just saw an idol promo I hadn’t seen before. They had Jimmy Iovine front and center as the idol mentor with the judges. I guess he will have a big impact on the show. I would also like to see if he will be given tv time to talk about the rehersals with the finalist.

  • car

    The article from the New York Times seems to be saying that really good singing is taking a backseat to the vocally challenged. Yet so many people have been complaining about the weak voiced singers that need a lot of help on their recordings. Their live singing is the source of much ridicule. I watched Derulo and some others on NYE and it was just painful. So if idol is going for singers who are not the best vocalists then I can see why they might focus on dancing and stage presentaion. Because other than Taylor, a lot of the singers who are not the best get by with auto-tune and make it big with their dancing or sexy stage performances. I still prefer the good singers though.

  • Indigobunting

    Car, I agree.

    I like an entertaining show and enjoy alot of shows that have dancing and/or special effects. But it can distract, IMO or be used to cover up mediocre vocal performance.

    I saw Julianne Hough as an opener for Sugarland at one of Danny’s opening shows. That was definitely a case of hoochy dancing (she did kind of a pole dance :lol:) and also costume changes distracting from the singing (which wasn’t good). And the audience did not like it.

    But I am there for the singing 99%. Others may not be, though.

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    The article from the New York Times seems to be saying that really good singing is taking a backseat to the vocally challenged. Yet so many people have been complaining about the weak voiced singers that need a lot of help on their recordings. Their live singing is the source of much ridicule. I watched Derulo and some others on NYE and it was just painful. So if idol is going for singers who are not the best vocalists then I can see why they might focus on dancing and stage presentaion. Because other than Taylor, a lot of the singers who are not the best get by and make it big with their dancing or sexy stage performances.

    Well, the main point of the article is, singing technique of today’s popstars is very simple. Not that all can not sing – some are good, some are bad, some are average. But the technique of Mariah, Whitney, Christina Aguilera is not popular anymore. These days, good production, catchy lyrics and vocals with some personality are more important.

  • abbysee

    These days, good production, catchy lyrics and vocals with some personality are more important.

    This too shall pass….

  • abbysee

    But I am there for the singing 99%.

    As am I, I also wanna speak up for the folk who can actually do both, I mean there are some folk who have catchy lyrics, production, personality, and can sing. I mean Gaga isn’t xtina or Whitney, but at the end of the day take away all the antics and she can sing. I mean she’s the minority as far as her counterparts are concerned, but it does make me pay a bit more attention to her and overlook the silliness of the meat dress. To me singing and presentation doesn’t have to be mutually exclusive. Truthfully you don’t have to tear the roof off the sucker, but you have to be able to at least carry a tune, at a bear minimum. Frankly I am not into the raise the roof singers. I like JHud, but her singing doesn’t always do it for me.

  • gangreen29

    I have thought for a long time that Cheryl would make an awful judge here. Her biggest problem frankly is her accent. Her northern english accent is not the kind that Americans love. It is too harsh sounding, not the posh kind of accent people expect to hear.

  • car

    Abbysee, I agree. I understand that there are some who can sing the hell out of a song and put on a great presentation (adam). I was talking about the ones who cannot sing that well and cover it up with OTT performances as indogo said of Julianne.

  • larc

    Mateja:
    But the technique of Mariah, Whitney, Christina Aguilera is not popular anymore. These days, good production, catchy lyrics and vocals with some personality are more important.

    When there is a shortage of singing talent, gimmicks become more important. Jaw dropping vocals can usually stand on their own.

  • tinawina

    Distinctive, if not technically perfect, voices are in. At some point it will swing back towards distinctive and good again. I hope. :D

  • emmuzka

    The article from the New York Times seems to be saying that really good singing is taking a backseat to the vocally challenged.

    I watched today the four semi finals and the wild card round of Season 2, and let me tell you that the really good singing was in the back seat eight years ago, too. At least in American Idol. That stuff was honestly pain to listen. Has there ever been that many technically good, ready (belter) singers in AI? The only that come to my mind are Melinda Doolittle and Adam Lambert.

  • tinawina

    Has there ever been that many technically good, ready (belter) singers in AI, ever?

    Que? I could name a dozen without going past the first 5 seasons. Big voices have always been on AI. Although Melinda might be the only person who never hit a bum note on the stage.

  • Indigobunting

    I think there were plenty of good technical singers-not perfect (who is?) but good.

    Carrie, Elliot, Melinda, Adam, Danny just to name a few.

    Agreed tinawina, Melinda definitely tops everyone.

  • larc

    tinawina:
    Distinctive, if not technically perfect, voices are in. At some point it will swing back towards distinctive and good again. I hope.

    We will get whatever the music-consuming public demands. It’s not the crummy singers I blame, but peeps with tin ears and otherwise unsophisticated musical tastes who buy their CDs and singles, go to their concerts and listen to them on the radio. Nobody is going to force-feed us quality. As long as we eagerly scarf up hamburgers and hot dogs, we can’t expect a regular diet of filet mignon.

  • joelhss

    Masterclasslady chose David Archuleta as the most technically perfect of all the AI singers. That was before season 9, but I can’t think of anyone in season 9 who would change her opinion.

  • steph6449

    I think there were plenty of good technical singers-not perfect (who is?) but good.
    Carrie, Elliot, Melinda, Adam, Danny just to name a few.
    Agreed tinawina, Melinda definitely tops everyone.

    I guess it may depend what your definition of “technical singer” is, a singer who is good according to some technical parameters? A singer who is highly trained in technique? Not necessarily the same thing although both can be great vocalists.

    Someone like Adam and to a lesser degree Melinda feels like a “trained” singer to me, which is what comes to mind when I think of “technical singers.” Someone like Danny, not really, although he has a lot of good technical qualities (range, power, textures…). I’d put the two Davids somewhere in between; don’t know Elliot’s music enough to judge. Carrie, I’m not sure which I’d use for her.

  • Valentin432

    I watched today the four semi finals and the wild card round of Season 2, and let me tell you that the really good singing was in the back seat eight years ago, too. At least in American Idol. That stuff was honestly pain to listen. Has there ever been that many technically good, ready (belter) singers in AI? The only that come to my mind are Melinda Doolittle and Adam Lambert.

    Most were bad (it’s true for any semifinal round of any season). But you watched the semifinals and WC of season 2 and weren’t impressed by Ruben “Superstar” (I think he was nominated for a grammy with that performance), Kim L. “Over The Rainbow” or Clay’s ‘Don’t Let The Sun Go Down On Me”?
    Those are all great vocal performances on par with the best from any season.

  • suenigma

    Indigobunting:
    01/02/2011 at 3:40 pm
    I think there were plenty of good technical singers-not perfect (who is?) but good.

    Carrie, Elliot, Melinda, Adam, Danny just to name a few.

    Agreed tinawina, Melinda definitely tops everyone.

    Kelly, David C., David A., Clay, Carly, Mandissa, Ruben, Chrystal…

    But yeah, Melinda is the best technical singer to ever grace the AI stage, IMO. Her tone, pitch and phrasing were as close to perfect as anyone I have ever heard.

  • tinawina

    I wouldn’t consider Danny a good technical singer. He had natural talent but did not seem to be in control of his voice.

    Tamyra Gray, Clay Aiken, Kimberly Locke, Latoya London… those are some of the people who come to mind when I think of technically good singers from the first few seasons. If I sat down and really thought about it I’m sure there would be more.

  • larc

    suenigma:
    But yeah, Melinda is the best technical singer to ever grace the AI stage. Her tone, pitch and phrasing were as close to perfect as anyone I have ever heard.

    It doesn’t say a lot for the public that they didn’t vote her winner, does it?

  • Indigobunting

    I guess my definition of good technical singer is less technical lol,. I just mean a good vocalist who has good range, pitch, falsetto, can give their voice different textures, etc.

    That is why I put Danny in that category- not perfect but good under my definition, and also post AI- he does get praised for being a good vocalist. In fact one blogger wrote an article early on entitled “Is Danny Gokey too good of a singer for Country Music”. That was a country music fan BTW, lest anyone think it was a diss on country music.

    Yes, Kelly, DavidA, DAvidC for sure. I liked Carly, but wouldn’t put here in that category.

    Certainly in the eye of the beholder, although the ability to stay on pitch and range are certainly measurably objectively.

    Agreed Larc, and I love your fast food analogy. Sometimes people are their own worst enemy, if you look at it that way!

  • suenigma

    I agree about Danny. He has a great voice, but his technique was limited when he was on AI. He reminded me of Jennifer Hudson back when she was on AI. The raw talent was there, but she had to learn how to harness it. She is sooo much better now. Danny has that kind of potential, IMO.

  • gangreen29

    It doesn’t say a lot for the public that they didn’t vote her winner, does it?

    No because Jordin is a fine singer too. I personally preferred her tone to Melinda’s. If Blake had won that would have been a travesty however.

  • tinawina

    Melinda going out at third was the only time I’ve ever watched AI that I got visibly angry. I think I scared my husband that night.

    Even if she didn’t win, she should have been in the final.

  • Indigobunting

    Yes, I agree; I guess I should qualify I meant Danny as a whole, particularly post AI-he did not really show what he could do during his season.
    Probably because he had no training etc. as well as his personal situation.

    Whereas some people like Clay, Melinda really showed what they had from the start on the show.

    ETA: Tinawina, I was really mad about Melinda too; almost as mad as the Daughtry escapade (that was more shock I think for me, lol)

  • suenigma

    larc: It doesn’t say a lot for the public that they didn’t vote her winner, does it?

    No kidding. And she came in third BEHIND Blake! I think he is a very talented and innovative musician, but probably the least technically pure singer to ever make it to the runner-up position

  • suenigma

    gangreen29:
    01/02/2011 at 4:38 pm
    It doesn’t say a lot for the public that they didn’t vote her winner, does it?

    No because Jordin is a fine singer too. I personally preferred her tone to Melinda’s. If Blake had won that would have been a travesty however.

    I agree, Jordin is a technically excellent singer too. I should have included her. She really stood out during the Idol Winner Medley last year, didn’t she?

  • suenigma

    We forgot Daughtry and Bo. Their and David C’s beautiful tone, range, control and power aften get over-looked because of their genre. Excellent vocalists, all three of them.

  • ozarko

    David Archuleta is in the new issue of Pixie magazine. Credit to @pringle3 for the scans:

    Scan 1
    Scan 2
    Scan 3 (maze)
    Scan 4 (poster)

  • ozarko

    David is also in this month’s issue of Galaxie magazine along with the lyrics to his song “Falling Stars.” Credit to Han for the magazine pic:

    Scan

  • isisdagmar

    I never really watched Idol (even when was in 7th/8th grade and it was super popular) and part of the reason was that what little I did hear of most singers on the show made me think they were technically good singers, but really boring.

    I’m not an expert, lol, but for me, singers I really love have a cool/distinctive/beautiful tone and an interesting/creative way of singing (phrasing and all that). I love Kelly’s voice (not all her music, but her voice) and the way she sings. I love Adam’s tone (it’s really bright and silvery and unusual) and his phrasing, what he does creatively with songs. Allison too, I love her voice. Jennifer Hudson I sometimes really like, sometimes don’t.

    Most of the rest are boring to me, either because their voices aren’t distinctive or the way they sing isn’t that interesting. Like I can recognize that Daughtry has a good voice but I don’t like that Nickelback style. Same with David Cook–I actually like his tone a lot, it’s really nice, but it’s too much of that dull faux-Cobain style. David Archuleta’s voice is pretty but what I’ve heard of his music is really boring. Kris’s voice and the way he sings are really pleasant but not that interesting. Carrie’s harder to judge–She’s obviously got a great voice and I like her song “Last Name” but I haven’t heard most of her other stuff, and I just don’t like country in general.

    And…I think that’s all the idol singers I’ve heard, actually. I haven’t heard Melinda, but clearly I should check her out. :) And of course that’s all my opinion, I’m sure plenty of people aren’t into Kelly’s or Adam’s or Allison’s voices and love the other guys’ voices.

    That article was really interesting. And to some extent it’s ridiculous how much autotune and all that is used to make crappy people sound okay, but it is true that you don’t have to have the best voice to be an interesting singer or to make really good music. I love Lady Gaga’s singing voice–the sound of it is just really interesting to me. Katy Perry–I don’t love most of her songs that I’ve heard (totally do love teenage dream though, lol), but I actually adore her acoustic stuff. Somehow that weird breathy style and her kind of airy round tone are so cool on songs like Electric Feel. So…yep, just rambling now.

  • car

    I have a question for the longtime idol watchers. Take Adam out of the mix cause it has been done to death. And take out Lee because I have seen his. As far as promotion and buzz how did Daughtry, Cook, Archie and Kris stack up with one another?

    Also interested in the ladies, Jordin, Carrie, Kelly and Fantasia. I would imagine that Kelly being the first idol received more than the other ladies but I could be wrong about that. And I know Carrie overshadows everyone now, but how was it when she first came on the scene?

  • CindyM

    Japanese Promo for Season 10 of Idol (With a NY greeting from Adam included)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cuzq4ojCM5M&feature=youtu.be

  • wordnerdarchie

    Ok, RECORDING? (emphasis was his)

    #thedavidcook

    Cleaning, Packing, Sleeping, Waking, Driving, Hugging, Crying, Waving, Flying, Landing, RECORDING, Smiling.

  • girlygirl

    TWEET TWEET from David Cook (note the emphasis on one word) :)

    thedavidcook
    Cleaning, Packing, Sleeping, Waking, Driving, Hugging, Crying, Waving, Flying, Landing, RECORDING, Smiling.
    6 minutes ago

  • smeggingnuts

    Sasha one of Adam’s dancers just posted a video of some backstage footage as well as a photo montague from the tour. Includes come Allison pictures too.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQROC3gOI1w

  • suenigma

    Cleaning, Packing, Sleeping, Waking, Driving, Hugging, Crying, Waving, Flying, Landing, RECORDING, Smiling.
    6 minutes ago

    David Cook is such a tease and a sweetie and a real person, it kind of makes my heart hurt. :)

  • Studio57

    smeggingnuts- I was just going to post that. what a great video! Hope they can all reunite for GN2!So much unseen footage and really loved all the pics from Lake Erie.

  • CindyM

    He’s STILL recording??? How many songs are going to be on this album?

  • wordnerdarchie

    He’s STILL recording??? How many songs are going to be on this album?

    He must have enough now for a double album.

    Ohhhhhhhhhhh…. ????

  • Incipit

    Aww - Suenigma – the only thing I can say to that tweet is ‘anticipating’!

    ~~

    Meanwhile, I’m caught by the magnificent irony in the Daily Mail stories – although the rag itself doesn’t seem to see it – and of course, any headlines of theirs are open to disbelief – but look at the juxtaposition!

    insiders fear the 58-year-old actor could be “too American” to understand the British public’s talents

    Simon Cowell has threatened to pull out of the American X Factor if Cheryl Cole isn’t given a seat on the judging panel.

    BGT insiders are worried because an American won’t understand the British show – and Simon is upset because American producers aren’t on board with two Brits (so far) judging an American show.

    We already know Simon’s shortcomings re – American music – IDK anything about Hasselhoff – I just think the whole thing is funny.

  • smeggingnuts

    Studio57:
    01/02/2011 at 6:28 pm
    smeggingnuts- I was just going to post that. what a great video! Hope they can all reunite for GN2!So much unseen footage and really loved all the pics from Lake Erie.

    that video was great lots of cool behind the scene shots. haha still LOL’ing at the one of Adam passed out on the lawnchair hehe

  • suenigma

    I love Adam’s tone (it’s really bright and silvery and unusual)

    It is so subjective isn’t it? I love Adam (in my top 3-5 Idols ever), have really liked a lot of the songs on his album, and I believe that he is probably the most technically proficient male voice ever on AI, but honestly, sometimes I find his tone a little cold or sharp. I prefer his accoustic stuff. One person’s bright is another person’s cold, and another person’s dull is another person’s warm.

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    This is funny.

    Popjustice: Let’s have a rummage around in a branch of HMV
    (watch the pictures)

    WHAT HAVE WE LEARNED?
    1. Life’s easy if you’re trying to buy a present for someone who likes JLS.
    2. Er…
    3. That’s it.

    JLS – boyband, X Factor season 5 runner-ups. They are marketable, aren’t they?

    Stop everything – Matt Cardle has some thoughts on popular song.

    Wow.

  • Joyed

    I have thought for a long time that Cheryl would make an awful judge here. Her biggest problem frankly is her accent. Her northern english accent is not the kind that Americans love.

    gangreen29, I agree that Cheryl’s accent is an issue. I actual love it because it sounds really musical (and kinda slurry) to me. However, if America is anything like my parents, nobody will be able to understand what she is saying.

    As far as technically good singers I think this is actually a measurable criteria that has to do with being trained. That said, I’ve enjoyed those that are more and less trained on the show cause I love a variety of voices. In S6 my two favorites were Blake AND Jordin – I liked Melinda as a person, but her voice didn’t give me chills like Jordin and her song choices didn’t interest me like Blake. All that is to say, that when it comes to picking a winner, America is voting on lots of different criteria, in which pure vocals are not the only criteria.

    RECORDING

    Yay! I know I’ll be excited when they announce a release date (eventually) for the album – but I think I will be most excited to see the tracklisting – there are a lot of ways this album could go in terms of the songs.

    Hope everyone had a wonderful holiday! (And if not, I hope you at least have a wonderful New Year!:))

  • Fullmoon

    Happy New Years All!
    I love that behind the scene shots of Sasha’s Video. Brings back memories.

    Will Cook’s album ever get done? By the time his album gets done grunge will make a comeback.

    Fun videos:
    Sylvester Sim, runner up from the first season of Singapore Idol, performed with his band at Celebrate 2011 on Dec 31. Adam Lambert medley – Sylvester Sim and the Queen Band @ Celebrate 2011
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDC30DiqoUU&feature=player_embedded

    Jill-Marie Thomas, rocks out with Rancour, winner of Suria’s Anugerah Band 08, on a cover of Adam Lambert’s If I Had You at t Celebrate 2011
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh7S4-OhKrI

  • Fullmoon

    Also I just caught up to some of the NYE Shows recorded on my DVR and saw David A. performance, I have to say he sounded great and looked so handsome in all black. He really had the crowd going. He did a great job.

  • suenigma

    Fullmoon:
    Will Cook’s album ever get done? By the time his album gets done grunge will make a comeback.

    LOL. He can only hope, right? I jest, I jest.

  • Incipit

    I think I will be most excited to see the tracklisting – there are a lot of ways this album could go in terms of the songs.

    Joyed, it certainly could, judging from what we know or have been told about all the registered songs so far. I am also waiting to hear the title of the single and the album to see if that holds a clue – and so I can quit calling it DCTR2!

    ;)

  • djafan

    Also I just caught up to some of the NYE Shows recorded on my DVR and saw David A. performance, I have to say he sounded great and looked so handsome in all black. He really had the crowd going. He did a great job.

    Ditto! Nice to see all the buzz and feedback regarding David’s NYE performance, all raving about his singing and looks. Surprised many who hadn’t seen him since idol days.

  • isisdagmar

    It is so subjective isn’t it? I love Adam (in my top 3-5 Idols ever), have really liked a lot of the songs on his album, and I believe that he is probably the most technically proficient male voice ever on AI, but honestly, sometimes I find his tone a little cold or sharp. I prefer his accoustic stuff. One person’s bright is another person’s cold, and another person’s dull is another person’s warm.

    Oh, definitely, things like tone are almost completely subjective, all that was totally how it strikes my ears, not anything I think is fact, lol. :)

  • karenc

    Will Cook’s album ever get done? By the time his album gets done grunge will make a comeback.

    I almost wonder if that’s what is happening. I know we’re sort of kidding, but I did see albums coming out next year and there’s quite a few alternative rock ones from major bands.

    And about the RECORDING :) I think he may be recording with his band, because Andy and Kyle both also tweeted about getting back to work this week.

  • karenc

    About Cheryl Cole, the only thing I wonder about her is if having two British judges on the panel, if they will really get American pop music. I know Simon doesn’t really, and I’m not sure about Cheryl. I watched the X factor from UK, and didn’t really like her that much.

  • wordnerdarchie

    Kyle was recording today with his brother in the studio. So the work tweet may be a bit deceiving, or today was just a quick side project with work on DCTR2 to follow. It’s hard to read between the lines.

  • karenc

    car:

    01/02/2011 at 2:00 pm
    The article from the New York Times seems to be saying that really good singing is taking a backseat to the vocally challenged. Yet so many people have been complaining about the weak voiced singers that need a lot of help on their recordings. Their live singing is the source of much ridicule. I watched Derulo and some others on NYE and it was just painful. So if idol is going for singers who are not the best vocalists then I can see why they might focus on dancing and stage presentaion. Because other than Taylor, a lot of the singers who are not the best get by with auto-tune and make it big with their dancing or sexy stage performances. I still prefer the good singers though.

    But in a way, the point of Idol is that they would try to make a pop star that could sing live. Even when they first started, there were singers that were mostly dancing and production, like Britney Spears and others.

    I prefer good singers also. I think someone doesn’t necessarily need to have a big voice to be a good singer live.

  • larc

    karenc:
    I prefer good singers also. I think someone doesn’t necessarily need to have a big voice to be a good singer live.

    As long as they sing on pitch without any external aid, everything else is pretty much negotiable depending on the situation, IMO.

  • CindyM

    This showed up on Astroplus Facebook account, looks like the cover of the 2011 Grammy nominee compilation album. If it’s real, Adam got a song on it!!

    http://www.facebook.com/Astroplus1

    Enlarged pic:
    http://on.fb.me/giroJO

    Astroplus is one of the two largest retail chains of music sales in the Phillipines.

  • suenigma

    isisdagmar:
    Oh, definitely, things like tone are almost completely subjective, all that was totally how it strikes my ears, not anything I think is fact, lol.

    Yeah, it’s like how everybody sees something different in a work of art. Everybody hears music slightly differently as well.

  • tinawina

    As far as promotion and buzz how did Daughtry, Cook, Archie and Kris stack up with one another?

    Also interested in the ladies, Jordin, Carrie, Kelly and Fantasia. I would imagine that Kelly being the first idol received more than the other ladies but I could be wrong about that. And I know Carrie overshadows everyone now, but how was it when she first came on the scene?

    Well, I don’t know about stacking them up or anything, but Jordin had little buzz, at least compared to what happened the year before. She got the standard promo plus some teen oriented stuff. I know it sounds crazy, but Taylor Hicks was a VERY popular winner and while he had his media detractors, he also had the “first musician idol” thing going… he was seen as a legit journeyman who had paid his dues. Plus his fanbase was HUGE and INSANE. LOL. And Daughtry got a lot of press for being “unfairly” voted off. There were stations that were actually spinning one of his covers. And this was in the days before ITunes singles. Heh. Daughtry got his lead single used as promo for a Fox show and his second single was the Idol boot song.

    Bo had more media love than Carrie. But I do think she had a fanbase that was excited about her. Obviously. Heh. And she did get promoted. I don’t think it was anything excessive until after she took off. Cook and Archie both had a lot of buzz. I think Cookie was seen as an exciting winner that would bring back the Idol glory days of Daughtry and Carrie. Archie had a large passionate fanbase, and teens loved him. There was a lot of complaining about the level of promo Cookie got. I am actually afraid to answer the Kris question for fear of starting an argument, but he just got the standard promo (talk shows, Idol friendly media, etc).

    You didn’t ask about them but Ruben and Clay (especially Clay) were big freaking deals… huge media sensations. TONS of buzz. TONS.

  • shadowearth

    CindyM:
    01/02/2011 at 9:45 pm
    This showed up on Astroplus Facebook account, looks like the cover of the 2011 Grammy nominee compilation album. If it’s real, Adam got a song on it!!

    The album is on Amazon – same cover except no artists listed. It would be incredible if Adam was on the album!
    http://www.amazon.com/2011-Grammy-Nominees-Various-Artists/dp/B004C5M29Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1294023849&sr=8-1

  • lucysfave

    Sorry to ask an off topic question, but I thought some of you may have experience with attending a celebrity cruise and could help us out from the Danny Gokey Concert thread (This is regarding the Sophia’s Heart Cruise taking off in early February from Tampa FL to Cozumel, MX)

    I have a question for anyone that’s gone on a celebrity cruise–we’ve heard that there will be two concerts, fundraising events (Will they be auctioning off Danny and the band?) for Sophia’s Heart, and a Superbowl Party on the boat. Has anyone attended one of these cruises? Also, has any other Idol hosted one?

    For die-hard Danny fans, this is a not to miss event. And a cruise to Cozumel, Mexico doesn’t sound too shabby, either.

    Thanks for any help you could give!

  • CindyM

    Looks like the Grammy Compilation album cover is real and Adam is on it. Here’s the listing on Amazon.UK.
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Grammy-Nominees-2011-Various/dp/B004D6PZ0W/ref=pd_rhf_p_t_1

    It’s funny to me that the UK site is updated so much faster than the US one.

  • tierbee

    First of all, I don’t know why David Cook’s tweet made me smile but… it did. Heh. I don’t know why, since it’s not like we know anything new about the record but… that’s ok.

    Second, because I can, I bring updated Jeremy Lister blog with three items… 1) they have a show in Nashville Tuesday that I, sadly, will not be attending but maybe you can; 2) they are getting started on their EP which should be out soon; and 3) his album that he’s been trying to get released for 2 years should be out in Feb.

    http://streetcornersymphony.org/jeremy/?p=69

    So there you go, my gift of Street Corner Symphony for the day. Even if you don’t really want it ;)

    Their show, BTW, is with the Whiffenpoofs and with super secret guests… but since I also follow Committed on Twitter I happen to know that they are also headed to Nashville so… If it was many hours closer I’d so be there. Maybe video will surface… I guess we’ll see if Sing-Off fans are expert video-takers like Idol fans are??

  • tierbee

    As long as they sing on pitch without any external aid, everything else is pretty much negotiable depending on the situation, IMO.

    Oh, and this, I’ve followed but not commented all day – I don’t like all the autotune crap where when you see these artists live you realize they can’t sing worth a damn. You don’t have to have an octave-bending voice to impress me, but cripes, at least be able to perform your own songs live.

  • shadowearth

    CindyM:
    01/02/2011 at 10:17 pm
    Looks like the Grammy Compilation album cover is real and Adam is on it. Here’s the listing on Amazon.UK.
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Grammy-Nominees-2011-Various/dp/B004D6PZ0W/ref=pd_rhf_p_t_1

    Wow – just wow. I’m just stunned. Almost afraid to believe it Congrats Adam – What an honor.

  • loveroftalent

    Wow – just wow. I’m just stunned. Almost afraid to believe it Congrats Adam – What an honor.

    Hopefully it is for real. Doesn’t the Grammy CD usually have all songs that are nominated.

  • asics85

    I agree tierbee…so disappointing when an artist performs live and not only sounds nothing like their album but sings off-key.

    I like what someone said about voices that are distinctive or interesting versus technically “perfect”. Maybe that is why I love Danny’s voice….it is definitely distinct and versatile (think PYT), and I can say from personal experience he does not disappoint live. In fact I thought he sounded even better live, maybe because he was singing with such passion and intensity. At the concerts I attended he hit every note and that was while running, jumping, dancing, and playing to the audience.

  • HotHotHot

    Yay! for Adam on Grammy recording! Wish they listed all the songs on it. They can’t have included everybody on it?

  • Idolnewby

    Speaking of Archie…. I saw that one of the large chain CD stores here in Bangkok has his album on sale with a concert DVD included. Was this included in the US release?

    Also thought of him as I was enjoying a Thai meal. He would love it here. Time for a vacation/concert in Thailand David!

    I looked for other Idol disks, but his was the only one I saw.

  • suenigma

    CindyM:
    01/02/2011 at 10:17 pm
    Looks like the Grammy Compilation album cover is real and Adam is on it. Here’s the listing on Amazon.UK.
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Grammy-Nominees-2011-Various/dp/B004D6PZ0W/ref=pd_rhf_p_t_1

    That is AWESOME! What fantastic exposure for Adam.

  • djafan

    Speaking of Archie…. I saw that one of the large chain CD stores here in Bangkok has his album on sale with a concert DVD included. Was this included in the US release?

    What????? What store???? Please :)

  • HotHotHot

    Maybe if they put him on the album, he will be asked to perform, too!!! Please, please! Sending it out to the Universe!

  • CindyM

    HotHotHot:
    01/02/2011 at 10:51 pm

    Yay! for Adam on Grammy recording! Wish they listed all the songs on it. They can’t have included everybody on it?

    No, they didn’t. There are 20 artists listed on that cover. Looked up 2009 and 2010 compilation albums and there were 20 artists listed on those covers also and 20 songs on each album. There are alot more nominees than that. I’m surprised no Beiber, Drake or Florence & the Machine listed.

  • Kris

    Speaking of Archie…. I saw that one of the large chain CD stores here in Bangkok has his album on sale with a concert DVD included. Was this included in the US release?

    He had a deluxe version that came with a Dvd of behind the scenes videos. It wasn’t a concert DVD.

  • girlygirl

    YAY!

    thedavidcook
    Also, a new recording teaser video will be up tomorrow at http://www.davidcookofficial.com! Be sure to check it out!

  • wordnerdarchie

    There’s a light at the end of tunnel for die-hard Cook fans. AT LAST!

    ETA: Girlygirl, thank you for your enthusiasm & support. :)

  • Chicagolaw

    Woah! Awesome exposure for Adam to be included on the Grammy album.

    So, is Cook still working with Serletic (hope that’s right) as producer? I was just curious because some of the people he has collaborated with–Tedder, Max Martin (maybe)–tend to like to produce their songs.

  • CindyM

    Yay for Cook fans!!

  • Incipit

    Also, a new recording teaser video will be up tomorrow

    Well Happy friggin’ New Year! That first tweet made me smile – this one makes me believe the long dry spell is nearly over!

  • asics85

    I had a question for David Cook fans….

    I didn’t start watching AI until Season 8 so I don’t really know much about the earlier AI winners or contestants…David Cook was Season 7, right? How long has it been since his last album? Will this be his second or third album when it comes out? I have gathered from his fans posting here that there has been a long gap between this album and his last one?

  • smeggingnuts

    Well holy crap…wow Adam got on the Grammy compilation CD. Wooot that is awesome.

  • http://emuisemo.com eilonwy

    David Cook was Season 7, right? How long has it been since his last album? Will this be his second or third album when it comes out? I have gathered from his fans posting here that there has been a long gap between this album and his last one?

    Season 7; first album was November 2008; second album looks likely for somewhere around March or April 2011, so call it 2-1/2 years. A 2- to 3-year gap is very normal for rock albums, so other than Cook himself saying he wanted it out “yesterday” and then the real date looking more like “day after tomorrow” (metaphorically!), I’m not sure where the perception of an especially long gap came from.

  • larc

    I checked Amazon to see which Idols have been on earlier Grammy Compilation Albums. Seems Adam will be in good company.

    2010 – Kelly Clarkson – “My Life Would Suck Without You”
    2008 – Carrie Underwood – “Before He Cheats”
    2008 – Daughtry – “It’s Not Over”
    2007 – Carrie Underwood – “Jesus Take the Wheel”
    2006 – Kelly Clarkson – “Since U Been Gone”

  • Fullmoon

    Yay, Good news for Cook fans. Double Yay for Adam. The Grammy nom album is hitting sites around the world. It is currently #136 on Amazon US bestseller list.

    Interesting observation when I went on Adam’s page and other idols.

    Frequently Bought Together
    Adam + Crystal
    Kris + Lee
    Crystal + Lee
    Lee + Crystal

  • asics85

    Thanks eilonwy!

    So a 2-to 3-year gap is normal between albums? I guess in this high tech world of instant gratification that would seem long when you are waiting to hear new music from your favorite. I’m sure it will be worth the wait!

  • bridgette12

    smeggingnuts:
    01/03/2011 at 12:11 am
    Well holy crap…wow Adam got on the Grammy compilation CD. Wooot that is awesome.

    It’s great WWFM is going to be on the Grammy CD. I am amazed that after all these months, the song is still on the itunes chart.

  • wordnerdarchie

    The time span between albums is normal in the rock genre, but not when you look at time between debut & follow-up album in Idol-verse. So I guess it’s good that he’s not following the idol pattern but is being treated like a mainstream rock artist?

  • Incipit

    asics85, David Cook, the Record – DCTR – dropped on November 18th, 2008 – and went Platinum. David spent all of 2009 touring, 154 dates, not counting the Philippines and private gigs – started writing in earnest for DCTR2 the day after the Neverending Tour ended – on December 2, 2009. Much writing and traveling and a bunch of one-off shows followed, David announced the producer on May 25th, and went into the studio to record on June 11th 2010. The Target was late summer. Things were rolling along, and then – they stopped. An announcement of sorts of a delay to Q1 was made during the shoot for the FOX promos, sporadic bulletins from the studio since then, the last on December 3rd of 2010.

    The track record of other idols time between albums has been posted here – DCTR2 is not outside of those parameters, it’s just much longer than was expected initially – which led to So Much Speculation I cannot even begin to list all of it – as to what was going on. I also cannot begin to imagine the frustration with “Hurry Up and Wait” for a guy who was used to turning out an album a year – I just know the fans have been on tiptoe, reaching for news, facts, anything at all. Hopefully, we’ll get the story someday – but better still, we get the new music soonest!

    Also. David is a Tease. *snerk*

  • Fullmoon

    The time span between albums is normal in the rock genre, but not when you look at time between debut & follow-up album in Idol-verse. So I guess it’s good that he’s not following the idol pattern but is being treated like a mainstream rock artist?

    This makes sense but the problem may be that he’s been so off the radar that he’ll have to be re-introduced again as a new artists. Good promo and a hit song will help him reconnect with some of the AI fans that moved on and remind the non AI fans that he is back. In todays music climate you really can’t stay away so long unless your an established artist and household name.

  • asics85

    Thanks for the insight Incipit! It must be frustrating for fans to wait, especially when the original timeline is extended without explanation.

    Hopefully the anticipation that comes with waiting will create more interest and more sales for him in the end. I hope so because I am one who is pulling for all the Idols to do well, as I think ultimately that helps all the artists that are associated with AI.

  • Incipit

    I am one who is pulling for all the Idols to do well, as I think ultimately that helps all the artists that are associated with AI.

    asics85, I think the same way, for the same reason. No matter what genre or whether I prefer their music or not, I wish all the Idols well…

    David is not off the sales radar – DCTR has been selling right along – two year old album or not – it averaged 1500 units a week for the last 6 months (per Brian Mansfield’s numbers), and nobody sells David Cook like David Cook – so some stepped up Promo and a solid first single ought to be a kickstart for DCTR2 – of course, RCA’s single picking skills is a fruitful field for more speculation ;) …but I know there is a large group of fans waiting, and even more people to be reminded or re-introduced…it will be what it will be – I’m just greedy for more David Cook music now!

    *snerk* @Myself

  • wordnerdarchie

    Incipit, I ALWAYS love it when you post. Thanks!

  • karenc

    So, is Cook still working with Serletic (hope that’s right) as producer? I was just curious because some of the people he has collaborated with–Tedder, Max Martin (maybe)–tend to like to produce their songs.

    He wrote with Tedder in the spring. We don’t know for sure if he worked with or even Max Martin, but he went to Europe in the spring. That was before Matt Serletic became the producer in June, when the recording started, and he’s still working with him.

    wordnerdarchie:
    01/03/2011 at 12:29 am
    The time span between albums is normal in the rock genre, but not when you look at time between debut & follow-up album in Idol-verse. So I guess it’s good that he’s not following the idol pattern but is being treated like a mainstream rock artist?

    It sounds like it. And it sounds like he’s very involved in the instrumentation and recording, so that’s why it’s taken longer too.

  • karenc

    Incipit:

    And in addition to the album still selling, Come Back to Me was still selling because it became gold as recently as September. I’m not sure of the exact number, but it sold a significant amount from the last time before that I had seen the number sold from probably last WInter or Spring.

  • Incipit

    Karenc, you are quite correct – I forget to add CBTM going Gold in September as evidence of recent viability in the singles market, and I ought not to do that. Thanks for the reminder. You and Wordnerdarchie keep me on the straight and narrow. ;)

  • Fullmoon

    >>>David is not off the sales radar – DCTR has been selling right along – two year old album or not – it averaged 1500 units a week for the last 6 months (per Brian Mansfield’s numbers)<<<Quote

    Those are really good numbers for a 2yr album. It shows longevity and when album2 get released it's sure to sell even more. I think I read the album stayed on BB top 200 for like 45wks(?) so It's good to see it's still selling after all this time.

  • J9BT

    A year ago, Ferguson, who grew up and still lives in Roxbury, wowed the judges on “So You Think You Can Dance,’’ krumping his way to a $250,000 payday and, he hopes, a career in TV, movies, and on stage.

    It’s nice to see an article on Russell Ferguson! He was my favorite dancer during Season 6 of SYTYCD, and it was nice to see him dancing at last year’s Academy Awards and on tour. I hope to see more of him on stage soon.

  • karenc

    Fullmoon:
    01/03/2011 at 12:41 am

    This makes sense but the problem may be that he’s been so off the radar that he’ll have to be re-introduced again as a new artists. Good promo and a hit song will help him reconnect with some of the AI fans that moved on and remind the non AI fans that he is back. In todays music climate you really can’t stay away so long unless your an established artist and household name.

    One theory I have is that they are going to relaunch him more as a rock artist, and that’s one reason for the additional time. The other being that the album isn’t done yet ;)

    The reason I think this is possible was because his concerts leaned more towards rock than the album did, so I wonder if this is the direction of the new album.

  • sunchick

    which led to So Much Speculation I cannot even begin to list all of it

    Biggest. Understatement. Ever. ;) With the end finally drawing near (hurray!), I’d like to go on record that the entertainment factor of my fellow DCTR2 Timeline theorists was second only to the Lost theorists, LOL. The funny thing is that, like Lost, we will probably never have all the answers. Ha. Anyway, I eventually decided despite the fact that I suck at waiting, I’m happy that Cook apparently made the most of the extended time table and kept the creativity flowing. (Course, personally, I still think he was, at some point, kidnapped by aliens so that he could help bring peace to a far away planet who had tapped into a satellite broadcast of Season 7 and had broken out into a vicious civil war over David v. David.)

  • asics85

    “Course, personally, I still think he was, at some point, kidnapped by aliens so that he could help bring peace to a far away planet who had tapped into a satellite broadcast of Season 7 and had broken out into a vicious civil war over David v. David”

    Best timeline theory I’ve seen yet :)

  • Incipit

    Sunchick, I Love it! But Archie went with him, you know. They did handstands. ;)

  • http://mjsbigblog.com/luvadamlamberts-american-idol-tour-2009-washington-dc-re-cap.htm luvadamlambert

    its cool to hear about russell

  • karenc

    Much writing and traveling and a bunch of one-off shows followed, David announced the producer on May 25th, and went into the studio to record on June 11th 2010. The Target was late summer. Things were rolling along, and then – they stopped. An announcement of sorts of a delay to Q1 was made during the shoot for the FOX promos, sporadic bulletins from the studio since then, the last on December 3rd of 2010.

    I don’t necessarly think that work on the album stopped, I think there was work still being done, and that more songs were written also. It is very possible that the album changed direction when the producer came on, David as much as said that in an interview. So, I think the album is taking longer than expected, but that work was still being done. I also think David is very involved in the studio work, he has even said he was working on the tracking. Once in a while he tweets something about going to the studio, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that’s the only time he goes.