Randy Jackson, Jennifer Lopez and Steven Tyler Announced as New Idol Judges, Jimmy Iovine to Serve as in-house mentor


Ryan Seacrest announced at a press conference today at the Los Angeles cattle call auditions what we already knew–Randy Jackson, Steven Tyler and Jennifer Lopez will sit on the judges panel for American Idol Season 10.

The live stream was a disaster. There was no audio or video initially. The video began working during Steven Tyler’s introduction. The audio finally cut in during Jennifer Lopez’s remarks. I hope this major fail isn’t a bad omen.

Some quotes from the Hollywood Reporter:

“I’m so excited. I do believe I’m calling ‘Idol’ Season 10 ‘The Remix, ’” Jackson told the cheering crowd. “I believe we’re going to find the greatest Idol ever.”

“I’m going to bring some rock to this roller coaster, ” said Steven Tyler

“I love you guys, ” Lopez said. “It’s about concentrating on the moment, do the best you can and just live. … I’m looking for the next Michael Jackson.”

Interscope/Geffen/A&M Records chairman Jimmy Iovine will join Idol as an ongoing mentor to the contestants. Throughout the season, Idol cameras will go behind the scenes to show Iovine helping singers improve their craft.

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126 Comments

  1. I have 3 main questions about this:
    1) Randy is the last remaining original judge. Really?
    2) Steven Tyler will probably be the one speaking last, does he have what it takes to replace Simon?
    3) What is the role of that mentor, will he choose the songs of the contestants just like in the x-factor?

  2. Yup, said it already, but will say it again – I think Steven Tyler is a bad idea. Just get the sinking feeling that he is going to be a disaster. Like the idea of an in-house mentor though.

  3. OMG, my first reaction to seeing the screen capture was “Tyler’s looking like WTF?? did I do??? Lopez is thinking the happy dance of dollars, and Randy’s thinking “dawg, nothing else works for me so I got to hang here…whew! Thank gawd I whined enough to stay signed.”
    Those faces just crack me the hell up!

    Eh, I think Idol’s seen it’s better days and I haven’t watched in “live time” in a while, what with YouTube and MJ’s videos, etc. But, hell, the trainwreck potential could bring some laughs. I just hate that some talent might get besmirched in the process. There are truly talented people out there and while they do sell their soul to the AI debil for the chance to show themselves, it’s hard out there for singer/musician to get a start nowadays. Get it if you can and then work it for all it’s worth; just try to keep some integrity, mmkay?

    **THAT picture…just no…:-)**

    eta: Aww, you changed it up. My post makes no sense. Believe me, though, the capture spoke volumes.

  4. I feel bad for the Season 10 contestants, this season all the attention is going to be on the new judges :/

  5. I’m looking for the next Michael Jackson.”

    Good luck with that!

  6. Just get the sinking feeling that he is going to be a disaster

    Really? Tyler it´s the only one I´m excited about! I think he´s gonna be great… Jlo? Not so much

  7. Oh God, those phony plastered on smiles and honestly when I saw Tyler, I thought whose the other woman?

    It must be a requirement of Idol photos that everybody hangs on like long lost relatives. See “We’re all one big HAPPY FAMILY.” Except Ryan’s body language says “Get me out of here” so I’m assuming he’s the next to jump ship.

  8. Steven Tyler — one of the best rock voices — will have no issue saying someone sucks, so yes to the Simon factor. I think a big plus of Steven Tyler over Simon is I don’t think Tyler will do it for “effect” or for manipulative purposes. Now THAT would be refreshing.

    I think this is absolutely gonna work better than Kara/Ellen/Simon/Randy…cuz it would take a lot to be worst than the “chemistry” of the judge’s panel last season.

    And showing Iovine backstage with the contestants, instead of “packages” that include “the weirdest summer job I ever had” has GOT to be a big improvement.

  9. I am assuming Randy will speak last on the live panel. He’s the senior panelist now. (But I wish he would just go away already).

  10. I wanted a more behind the scene’s judge who wasn’t already a celebrity because I thought they’d be less practiced in their persona. On the other hand, maybe because they have been practicing their public personas for awhile the newbies might be ok?

    I really want the attention on the singers this year – and I want the singers to make great song choices. Hopefully a mentor will be helpful. Also, since he works with the label, it might give him better insight into who is really cut out for the industry.

  11. Obviously the contestants ultimately fuel the show and either generate buzz and interest, or just “mehs”. However, if the judges lack chemistry, which is what happened last year big time, it does affect the overall feel of the show and it becomes a little unsettling to watch – and that could impact ratings.

    So let’s hope these three have that chemistry. If they do, it will be a fun season, if not, a bust.

  12. I just realized JLo says she’s looking for the next “Michael Jackson.” I guess that means no more WGWG. From her lips to God’s ears. ;)

  13. Hm, people keep saying Tyler will be the new Simon, and JLo the new Paula, but I keep thinking JLo will probably be the most coherent and articulate judge on this new panel. She’ll be nice, but I feel like she might have the most interesting/helpful things to say. My guess? Tyler will be the new Pauler… that man makes no sense, ever, from what little I’ve heard from him.

    The in-house mentor thing is cool. My question is, who’s the new Rickey Minor?

  14. I’m intrigued by this combination. Steven Tyler is an oddball, but I think he’ll have some interesting things to say.

    I’m glad they’ve gone back to a panel of 3. There was no need for a 4th judge.

    The show definitely needed a change-up after this past lethargic season. Simon should have left sooner. I really used to like the guy, but he just phoned it in last year and it brought the mood of the whole show down. It will be nice to have judges on the panel who really want to be there.

    Now they need to find us some great singers.

  15. bjames:
    09/22/2010 at 1:41 pm
    I want my Idol back.

    same feeling.. after i’ve seen the photo above, i just remembered paula’s video of ‘dance like there’s no tomorrow’

    there was like a still shot of 3 judges and ryan. it was chemistry (which has been build up on those 7 years)

    but oh well, everyone has to move on..

  16. There was a cheering crowd? Really? Why do I doubt that?

    I hope the judges can tone down their egos and let this season be about the contestants — not about them — but I’m not confident about this

    Having Iovine as an in-house mentor and showing him working behind the scenes with the contestants actually is a decent idea — at the least, it’ll give the contestants a better understanding of what to expect if they actually end up being signed by Universal after the show ends.

  17. Is Jlo there to teach them how to have a career in pop without having a voice?

    mkay

  18. Is Jlo there to teach them how to have a career in pop without having a voice?

    ;)

  19. that is a lame ass photo. Did they have to get drunk first to look so happy?

  20. Steven Tyler and JLo are very poor choices, IMO. Hope I’m wrong, but I have a feeling Idol has jumped the shark.

  21. Just curious Did J-Lo have any sort of music career prior to her becoming a big-time actress?

  22. Steven Tyler — one of the best rock voices — will have no issue saying someone sucks, so yes to the Simon factor.

    No really. The point about Simon is that he can be very charming and amusing. People can allow you to be a bit nasty when you can show that you are likeable, or can say not-so-kind words in an amusing way (I giggled for example when he said to Jennifer Hudson once about a silver outfit she wore that it looked like something that you wrap a turkey in – I started having this mental image of her as a giant turkey). Somehow just don’t see Tyler as the charming type, if only because he has a face that’s more at home in a horror movie.

  23. Is Jlo there to teach them how to have a career in pop without having a voice?

    There is still Swift, Cyrus and others that can give the same lessons..

  24. I don’t think it would be so bad if 19Evil didn’t look like they were trying so hard.. because when they try hard is when they tend to screw everything up.

  25. I actually like this new lineup now that I see the photographs. And Jimmy Iovine as an in-house mentor? Brilliant. This reminds me of when Shannen Doherty left 90210: people thought the show would suffer, but it gave it a new spirit, and a more pleasant vibe. Simon was the Shannen Doherty for me, nothing but negativity. JMO, folks!

  26. Somehow just don’t see Tyler as the charming type, if only because he has a face that’s more at home in a horror movie.

    Laughed Out Loud at that one. Thanks!
    Plus- I agree.
    I never watched AI except S8, but what I did know about it was there was that witty brittish dude on it…

  27. The other huge positive that will come out of the switch-up — no more uncomfortable sexual tension between Simon and Ryan. I will not miss that at all.

  28. Ha, Randy, that old cockroach, is already starting the “best EVER” stuff. The more things change….

    This lineup still seems trainwrecky to me, but I will say it’s kind of nice that American Idol now has a judges table made up of American success stories. The whole cranky British judge thing is getting cliche these days.

  29. Wow, this is good stuff! Steven Tyler looking for a real live rocker!! JLo looking for the new Michael Jackson!! So awesome!!

    Better still, it’s also been leaked that there will be a “special episode” this season where that week’s finalist with the fewest votes will be given the opportunity to jump a shark tank while on water skis to avoid elimination.

  30. Jimmy Iovine looks just like the actor Christopher Lambert and he seems to have a lot of experience in the business, so that could be a good move, but I hope the contestants still get to choose their songs and arrangements for the most part.

  31. Lopez: “I’m looking for the next Michael Jackson.”

    “So You Think You Can Dance….And Sing” is not a TV show.

  32. This is the last season of Idol. People will watch out of curiosity, but slowly, but surely, people will start to tune out. The magic is gone.

    They dug their own gravesite. It means nothing to win this show and there is NO point to who wins or who loses.

  33. Well now that we have the judges panel I can comment on. I´m not going to say things like who´s the new Simon or new Paula because I think that the panel don´t need a new Paula ou Simon. They had their time… time to move on. So:

    Steven Tyler… I´m really excited about him. He´s the successful singer that the panel never had. He does have one of the best rock voices of all times, he´s a hell of a performer, a musician, he´s edgy and if he can translate all thas on his comments, demanding that from the contestants it will be great!

    Randy: I actually think that he´ll be better without Simon. He knows the industry, it´s a great producer and in tune with what´s going on in music. He just need to focus on that.

    Jlo: I´m not so sure about her. I mean, she is what it is, a pop fabricated product that can´t sing. But hey, we´re in the pop fabricated product that can´t sing era! So who knows? Maybe she can advise on what to do to be a popstar even if you can´t sing.

  34. The in-house mentor is actually a really interesting addition. We never knew previously how much or how little the contestants were mentored, how alone they were left with their song choices and how they presented themselves.

  35. They missed the boat. Seacrest should have been replaced too. Nobody cares if Randy is there or not, so it didn’t make any difference if he was replaced or not. He just fills a seat. But Ryan tries to make the show about him and after 9 seasons of Ryan, I think we now every thing we need to know about him.

    I was hoping the show would finally be about the kids and not about the has beens.

  36. They are saying that the contestants will work with producers every week like Timbaland, that could be really cool.

    ETA: no guest mentors

  37. Nothing against Daughtry, but when the 4th place finisher is more famous than the winner and runner-up, there is definitely something wrong!

    I’m officially done with the show.

  38. Nothing against Daughtry, but when the 4th place finisher is more famous than the winner and runner-up, there is definitely something wrong!

    I’m officially done with the show.

    There is nothing wrong with 4th place finisher being more successful than TOP 2. American Idol is STILL ONLY A REALITY SHOW. AND AS WE KNOW, REALITY SHOWS OFTEN DON’T REFLECT REALITY. In 5th season’s case, 4th place finisher turned out to be more successful in the real world than the winner. That’s all.

  39. WOW!!!

    No themes & contestants will stay in their genres throughout the competition.

  40. (I giggled for example when he said to Jennifer Hudson once about a silver outfit she wore that it looked like something that you wrap a turkey in – I started having this mental image of her as a giant turkey).

    He said that? LOL, I may have to reassess. Tyler may be interesting to watch after all…

  41. Where is the surprise??

    All of us already know before the “”revealed”” that the judges will be Randy, Steve and J-Lo.

    Nothing new here.

  42. Sounds like they are going to make huge changes to the format in order to get a better ending result, no more theme week, the middle rounds (semifinals I guess) are going to change, real producers working with the kids, Jimmy Lovine being it seem like a hands on mentor.
    They got my attention.

  43. Wait, I can’t watch the stream, but they said stuff besides the announcement of the judges and mentor?

    WOW!!!

    No themes & contestants will stay in the genres throught out the competition

    Looks like they may put restrictions on using instruments.

    Can someone recap for me =P? I’m bummed about no more theme week… I like the idea of theme weeks, I just wanted better themes. Free choices every week for 14 weeks (or whatever) sounds like it lacks structure…

  44. Valentin432:
    09/22/2010 at 2:37 pm
    Sounds like they are going to make huge changes to the format in order to get a better ending result, no more theme week, the middle rounds (semifinals I guess) are going to change, real producers working with the kids, Jimmy Lovine being it seem like a hands on mentor.
    They got my attention.

    Should they change their name to “x-factor”?

    BTW: thanks for those that are recapping. I can’t listen right now.

  45. tripp_ncwy:
    09/22/2010 at 2:28 pm
    Looks like they may put restrictions on using instruments.

    Oh yuck. I actually enjoy the instruments. You just have to have contestants who are smart enough to know when to ditch them and when to use them. Season 7 didn’t have a problem, or Season 8. Instrument restriction plus no themes and the contestants always singing in genre seems to stifle the creativity of the contestants. Half the fun is seeing how an R&B singer will cover a rock song or a rock singer cover an R&B song, etc. No themes sounds extreme. Just cut back on theme overload and change it up between themes and free choice.

  46. Should they change their name to “x-factor”?

    Haha, I had the same thought. I guess we won’t know until it starts if they went too far in another direction for me to stay interested!

  47. After my initial dislike for this panel, it may not be bad after all.

    The changes that the producers mentioned in the press conference are what get me excited, not so much the judges. I’m holding out hope for some awesome talent, because really, that’s what makes me love the show.

  48. Only about 3,000 showed up at the auditions today in Los Angeles. That is probably the worst crowd for a mainland audition at least since season 1. Pretty bad choice having Los Angeles for an extra audition.

  49. Oh Sunchick. I like the idea of limits. I think this is where S9 went into the danger zone. If someone helped them pull back on the instruments I think the we would have had a different result in how they dropped off. I still like instruments, just not every single week. Since I’m not listening, I’m assuming they are just putting in a few instrument free weeks, not eliminating.

  50. 1. Pretty bad choice having Los Angeles for an extra audition.

    Why do you think? I know from experience that folks from LA can be jaded, but there is lots of talent there.

  51. Should they change their name to “x-factor”?

    I didn’t get that impression. I feel like they want to make it more “professional”, with the contestants getting to work like real life artists.
    The mentoring on the x factor is not really serious more like a gimmick to highlight the judges.

  52. I am liking the idea of Jimmy Iovine. The rest may or may not be entertaining, but I only watch the excerpts here anyway.

  53. Why do you think? I know from experience that folks from LA can be jaded, but there is lots of talent there.

    They go there most seasons, and already went to San Francisco that is not that far away so that may have diluted the crowd considerably. If they went to another region, they may have drawn 10,000 to 15,000 like most of the earlier auditions drew.

  54. I’m still not happy about ST being a judge but it is what it is. I do like a couple of the changes though like them staying within their genre. The most successful idols have done that anyway. I didn’t hear the conference but like the idea of a consistent mentor.

  55. itsalleternal:
    09/22/2010 at 2:43 pm

    Only about 3,000 showed up at the auditions today in Los Angeles. That is probably the worst crowd for a mainland audition at least since season 1. Pretty bad choice having Los Angeles for an extra audition.

    I’m pretty sure the people in L.A. are in on the fact that the “audition process” is sort of a bad joke, more of a way to cull a few tear jerker stories and freaks to pad the early episodes then any real talent hunt. On the other hand, it could be a chance for a few minutes of national television exposure in a town full of wannabes, so somebody should be showing up. Alternately, perhaps they will show up next week in the interest of being fashionably late.

  56. I like the idea of having a producer do some mentoring—but Jimmy Iovine???He was great YEARS ago (didn’t he date Stevie Nicks back in the day?), but what does he know about the current pop scene? Although, what do any of them know about the current pop scene?

    AI really needS to find another Bruno Mars, but that is never going to happen with this group.

  57. I like the limits on instruments. I’ll be perfectly happy if the put a two year ban on all guitars. Pianos are fine though.

    All the other chages sound like it’s the X Factor. Not sure about no more mentors. Does that mean no more guest artists coz that would kind of suck.

  58. They go there most seasons, and already went to San Francisco that is not that far away so that may have diluted the crowd considerably. If they went to another region, they may have drawn 10,000 to 15,000 like most of the earlier auditions drew.

    Ahhh SF. I forgot they went there already. I wonder how they marketed it in LA. I was born and raised in LA and visiting SF can be like going to another planet some times. I wonder how motivated the talent would be to drive the distance or even fork out $$ for airfare and hotel. Oh well.. *shrug* Too bad, they could have pulled some interesting characters. :)

  59. There is nothing wrong with 4th place finisher being more successful than TOP 2. American Idol is STILL ONLY A REALITY SHOW. AND AS WE KNOW, REALITY SHOWS OFTEN DON’T REFLECT REALITY. In 5th season’s case, 4th place finisher turned out to be more successful in the real world than the winner. That’s all.

    There’s plenty wrong with the 4th place finisher being more successful! What exactly is the point of this show? Isn’t it to find the best talent? What’s the point in voting?

  60. Then you might as well complain about Clay since commercially he was more successful then Studdard from season 2.

  61. Since I’m not listening, I’m assuming they are just putting in a few instrument free weeks, not eliminating.

    I think that’s fine; I don’t want to see them eliminate instruments entirely, but definitely they should also get up there and just sing and perform without them sometimes. But again, a lot of that comes back to them not putting through a group of the *same* singers. I really do think one of the big issues (other than a lack of good TV personalities) for S9 was that they were mostly singer-songwriter types. Even Big Mike started off as a guitar strummy guy before he realized (or someone told him) that he’d last longer with more of a R&B vibe. I don’t want to give up my guitar players completely but a nice mix… that would be cool. All I really want is talented folks who put on a good show so it’s interesting. And have some personality. Too much to ask? :)

  62. What’s the point in voting?

    So that AT&T can make a profit off their advertising. :)

    I don’t vote and I’ve never been convinced of the winner necessarily being more successful, well at least since the second season.

  63. What exactly is the point of this show? Isn’t it to find the best talent? What’s the point in voting?

    Wellll… you have to factor in the fact that we, Joe Q Public, vote. So that may skew things a bit. Plus, the best talent doesn’t always equal the biggest sales. There’s a lot of luck/right song/right place sort of thing involved, plus album quality, singles quality, etc., etc. And, of course, “best talent” is subjective, not everyone likes the same voices.

  64. There’s plenty wrong with the 4th place finisher being more successful! What exactly is the point of this show? Isn’t it to find the best talent? What’s the point in voting?

    Do you really think that the winner of American Idol is always the most talented contestant of the season? Winners win for a variety of reasons, some of those things don’t help them once they enter the real world. It’s more important how they fit the current mainstream music scene. I think that’s the main reason why Daughtry was the most successful in the end.

    The point of voting is to see how popular are the contestants. Still, some contestants are more popular as characters than singers or recording artists.

  65. So that AT&T can make a profit off their advertising.

    Exactly and that’s the reason I am done with this show. It doesn’t matter who the judges are because the show fails!

    At least Simon and Paula brought some comic relief to the show and now that they are gone, the show will suck even further.

  66. koshka:
    09/22/2010 at 2:43 pm
    Oh Sunchick. I like the idea of limits. I think this is where S9 went into the danger zone. If someone helped them pull back on the instruments I think the we would have had a different result in how they dropped off. I

    Yeah, but no one had to order Cookie or Castro or Brooke or Archie or Kris or Matt to use the electric guitar or the piano or the acoustic guitar or go instrument free or whatever. That decision was part of their creative process, and they all learned to figure it out to varying degrees of success. Point being, it’s not the instruments, it’s the talent you pick, the variety between them and their vocal chops, musical experience and instincts. They did a lousy job casting last season. Too many similar types, not enough people with teevee friendly performing personas. That was the problem, period, and the producers wanting to blame the guitars or the themes or whatever just seems silly to me, as does saying you’re looking for the next Michael Jackson. Cast a good mix of talented people in different genres plus a scarce few foddery whacky personalities here and there and see who rises to the top at the end. How hard can it be? Ya gotta wonder.

    ETA: Jinx, tierbee. Should have just read back before I answered and said ditto, LOL.

  67. The show is nothing more than a popularity contest and has nothing to do with real talent or real music.

  68. The show is nothing more than a popularity contest and has nothing to do with real talent or real music.

    Then why are you upset that sometimes the winner is not the most successful contestant after the season ends?

  69. Nothing against Daughtry, but when the 4th place finisher is more famous than the winner and runner-up, there is definitely something wrong!

    I’m officially done with the show.

    To me what happens after a season has nothing to do with those few months while the show airs. It’s TV, I only want it to entertain me. If the 10th place finisher gets a break and becomes more famous than a winner? Good for him. Still irrelevant for me tbh.

    I don’t know much about the new judges personalities, so I can’t say if I’m happy or sad. I’m glad there was a change (although I wish Randy wasn’t there either).

    This mentor thing sounds interesting.

  70. Yeah, but no one had to order Cookie or Castro or Brooke or Archie or Kris or Matt to use the electric guitar or the piano or the acoustic guitar or go instrument free or whatever. That decision was part of their creative process, and they all learned to figure it out to varying degrees of success.

    Oh.. I agree it is a casting issue, but I’m sure they didn’t anticipate that they would have an issue like they did. Perhaps by putting some loose set of guidelines, it won’t happen again. Here’s to a better casting this year. :)

  71. Then why are you upset that sometimes the winner is not the most successful contestant after the season ends?

    I’m not upset. I’m just saying the whole concept of the show is wrong. The winner of the show is supposed to be the one getting all the publicity and the best songs/material for their cd’s, not the effing runner-ups!

  72. I’m not upset. I’m just saying the whole concept of the show is wrong. The winner of the show is supposed to be the one getting all the publicity and the best songs/material for their cd’s, not the effing runner-ups!

    What happens after the show has nothing to do with the show.
    You can not order the press who should get the most publicity, you can not order radio PDs who to play or not to play and you can not order the label what to do or not to do with a contestant.

    Winners get that they are promised. A recording contract for at least one album, press tour after the finale, headlining of the Idol tour. Some cash and a title. That’s it.

  73. So you are saying Chris should have given “Home”, the song he wrote, to Taylor because Taylor won?

  74. The winner of the show is supposed to be the one getting all the publicity and the best songs/material for their cd’s, not the effing runner-ups!

    The winner of the show is supposed to get a CD, as far as I know that’s the only prize (and a car).
    Everything else is life and it’s about each contestant trying to make the best of their exposure on the show.

  75. What happens after the show has nothing to do with the show.

    And that’s exactly why the show fails and is not taken seriously by REAL music people. Anyway, I’m done debating. All TV shows come to an end and the end is near for American Idol.

  76. I’m not upset. I’m just saying the whole concept of the show is wrong. The winner of the show is supposed to be the one getting all the publicity and the best songs/material for their cd’s, not the effing runner-ups!

    Sometimes the 2nd or 3rd round draft pick becomes a star, while the 1st rounder goes bust. Shit happens.

  77. So you are saying Chris should have given “Home”, the song he wrote, to Taylor because Taylor won?

    No, I’m saying that Taylor should have been given equally good songs and he obviously was not.

  78. No, I’m saying that Taylor should have been given equally good songs and he obviously was not.

    Taylor’s problem was that he was 28 years old, gray haired man that actually looked older than he really was. He didn’t fit into any of the mainstream music genres. Radio didn’t want to play him. Idol is looking for young, mainstream singers, preferably pop singers. Idol can not make a star out of anyone.

  79. Taylor should have released a soul/blues jam-band type record. That’s the label and 19’s fault. Taylor waiting until after the tour to start recording and being (reportedly) kind of a dick to work with? That’s Taylor’s fault. The fact that Taylor was never gonna make the kind of music any major radio format would play? That’s not anybody’s fault to me. It is what it is. That’s just was not who Taylor Hicks was.

  80. Taylor’s problem was that he was 28 years old, gray haired man that actually looked older than he really was. He didn’t fit into any of the mainstream music genres. Radio didn’t want to play him. Idol is looking for young, mainstream singers, preferably pop singers. Idol can not make a star out of anyone.

    Regardless, he was still the winner of show and what America apparantly wanted and should have gotten the respect he deserved.

    American Idol makes stars out of who can make them the most money. It is about money, not art…FAIL!

  81. Taylor should have released a soul/blues jam-band type record. That’s the label and 19’s fault. Taylor waiting until after the tour to start recording and being (reportedly) kind of a dick to work with? That’s Taylor’s fault. The fact that Taylor was never gonna make the kind of music any major radio format would play? That’s not anybody’s fault to me. It is what it is. That’s just was not who Taylor Hicks was.

    It was producers’ fault. They thought Taylor had no chance to win – but in the end, he did win.

  82. It was producers’ fault. They thought Taylor had no chance to win – but in the end, he did win.

    What do you mean it was producer’s fault?

  83. It was producers’ fault. They thought Taylor had no chance to win – but in the end, he did win.

    They put him through to the voting rounds.

  84. They put him through to the voting rounds.

    They put him through the voting rounds because they obviously thought he had talent. The public could have easily not voted for him.

  85. Nothing against Daughtry, but when the 4th place finisher is more famous than the winner and runner-up, there is definitely something wrong!

    I’m officially done with the show.

    Hello 4 years ago?

    I am excited about the panel. I don’t know why people are assuming Steven will go last besides the fact he is a man. I could see it being J-Lo. She is very intelligent and can be to the point.

  86. They put him through the voting rounds because they obviously thought he had talent. The public could have easily not voted for him.

    Well yeah, he had talent. He just wasn’t marketable and he did not fit the mainstream music scene. Voters don’t think about marketability of contestants and their chances to succeed after the show when they vote. Voters obviously loved Taylor as a TV character and he was also a good singer. But, that’s only enough to win a TV show, not to succeed in the real world.

  87. Mark my words….last season for Idol. I was right about Ellen too. I knew that she was going to fail big time. I was also right about the four judges…I knew that would fail. Simon is gone..it will fail big time.

    The American public has finally caught on on what absolutely manipulative and crappy show it really is.

  88. America doesn’t care. The show is fun, family entertainment. It’s a game and when it’s over they move on. They clearly aren’t interested in the music once the contestants leave or Kris Allen would have sold a heck of a lot more CDs.

  89. This is the last season of Idol. People will watch out of curiosity, but slowly, but surely, people will start to tune out. The magic is gone.

    Last season? Wasn’t it still consistently the most watched or second most watched show on TV last season? Businesses (19/Freemantle) don’t just leave that kind of money on the table. Sure, they might slip to second, third or somewhere in the top 10 most watched shows on TV, but ratings for even a top 10 show still demands a TON of advertising dollars. Why would they cancel it just because “the magic is gone”? That makes it seem that TPTB are in this for the “magic” — which they so clearly are not.

  90. Wasn’t it still consistently the most watched or second most watched show on TV last season?

    I’m pretty sure it was still number 1. Dancing With The Stars only beat them a couple of times.

  91. It’s a game and when it’s over they move on.

    Exactly, it’s a game show, just like the Gong show! It has nothing to do with real music and that’s the reason it will ultimately fail!

  92. Exactly, it’s a game show, just like the Gong show! It has nothing to do with real music and that’s the reason it will ultimately fail!

    Ok.. so if we accept that fact, why does it really matter? I enjoy it for what it is. It gives some a break in the business that they never would have gotten otherwise and I get some evening entertainment during summer. Everyone wins.

  93. Exactly, it’s a game show, just like the Gong show! It has nothing to do with real music and that’s the reason it will ultimately fail!

    Most other shows wish they could fail so gloriously. To have at leave two bona fide ‘stars’ and another dozen or so Grammy, Tony nominees, platinum and multi-platinum cd sellers, Broadway stars, etc. come out of this show, that has nothing to do with real music is fucking incredible. Considering that it’s the gong show, it’s screwed itself into some kind of Clouseaun success.

    I am one of those who has loved and hated this show. I am more excited about this year than I have the past three years and that’s saying something. I started watching with my family and it was must see TV, now we watch at our leisure and TIVO it. We still watch, but we all know it needs to move into this century. But to say it’s insignificant is to ignore it’s presence in the industry even now. A couple of sub par performances does not mean that the idea was not great. I believe that there were just too many Dr. Frankenstein’s in the kitchen.

  94. Everyone wins.

    Oh really? How many AI contestests have superstar careers? How many contestests disappear and you never hear from them ever again?

  95. American Idol makes stars out of who can make them the most money. It is about money, not art…FAIL!

    That is the perfect example of why AI has been a successful TV show for all of these years. It is entertainment for the masses pure and simple. And Taylor is the perfect example of someone who was able to entertain the masses but unable to stir them into supporting him afterward in a longterm career. Most AI viewers forget about the contestants soon after the finale. Winners there are no more guaranteed a career than the winners of American’s Top Model or So You Think You Can Dance.

    But most of the various season’s Top 10 are presented with at least an opportunity to get a step further in their career than they ever would have withuot the show. And that’s the business part of show business. Opportunity. Chance. What you do with that opportunity usually goes a lot further to getting people the fame and fortune they desire than pure talent ever does.

  96. Oh really? How many AI contestests have superstar careers? How many contestests disappear and you never hear from them ever again?

    And how many of them had doors opened to them and are performing – both on and off-stage – on a level of which they could have only dreamed before AI?

  97. AI has a very poor record in creating superstars. Very poor!

  98. And Taylor is the perfect example of someone who was able to entertain the masses but unable to stir them into supporting him afterward in a longterm career.

    Because Taylor didn’t get the support that was needed to sustain a career and Daughtry obviously did get, so don’t try to BS.

  99. And Taylor is the perfect example of someone who was able to entertain the masses but unable to stir them into supporting him afterward in a longterm career.

    Taylor’s problem was that radio didn’t want to play him. He just didn’t fit into any format. So his AI fans bought his album and then he was done.

  100. summertime blues:
    09/22/2010 at 5:36 pm

    AI has a very poor record in creating superstars. Very poor!

    How many true “Superstars” are there in the music business anyway? What AI is good for is giving musicians some exposure & a leg up & a lot of Idols are able to do now what they love- play & record music . Not too shabby really! Many of the idols would not have been able to do this had it not been for Idol, so I think the franchise has worked well!!

  101. Because Taylor didn’t get the support that was needed to sustain a career and Daughtry obviously did get, so don’t try to BS.

    Actually, Taylor was the butt of many jokes in the industry and outside of AI that’s true. His prematurely gray hair, his performance style all made for easy jokes . Yet that in itself could be used as an opportunity for exposure and exposure then used to get the attention of record buyers. But the fact that Taylor refused to work on a CD until after the tour. the fact that he has a rep for being difficult to work with, and the fact that his music wasn’t what the vast music public was listening to at the time of its release played against him. Not to say Taylor isn’t talented. We grew up in the same section of the same state and I’ve heard him both before and since the show. But he isn’t going to be a huge Pop Star or Rock Star. Daughtry – of whom I am not a fan = does appeal to a wider segment of the CD purchasing public.
    It wasn’t a matter of the AI support or material, its just that Daughtry won the crap shoot and Taylor didn’t. Success and buzz create more success and buzz. Although they might influence their viewers, AI cannot control how buyers at large respond to the product they offer.

  102. I wanted five changes in Idol — and I got 3 or 4 of 5 — which is not bad.

    5. Get rid of mentors. Check.
    4. Get rid of genre themes. Check.
    3. Go back to three judges. Check.
    2. Pick more talented singers. Maybe.
    1. Limit the number of votes per method. Denied. (Although I do not expect it because of the AT&T sponsorship.)

    Almost everything has a poor record of creating Music Superstars — including the 4 major labels. Over 80% of major label albums loose money. Idol actually has done better than that — even in the past 2 years when the music business has essentially collapsed.

    However one talent show did successfully find real stars, Star Search — Britney, JT, Xtina, Beyonce, Usher and many more. But Star Search was not a reality TV competition, it was a talent competition where the judges decided the winners.

    I think the Idol tradeoff is that involving the audience by voting increases fan ownership of the outcome and makes the show more interesting. But it also create situations where people vote for other reasons than talent — I can’t count the number of times I have read — I like X but I voted for Y because he needs the win more. Or vote against Z because he….. Or I’m voting for Z because he’s so cute!!!!

    If they do my #2 I will watch AI10. If not, they will probably not win me back. But we’ll see, because I never imagined that they would get me to watch AGT and I did watch it.

  103. Taylor’s problem was that radio didn’t want to play him. He just didn’t fit into any format. So his AI fans bought his album and then he was done.

    Taylor had so many problems from not being a commercially viable recording artist to having a terrible relationship with his label to not being relevant that it is really unfair to blame it on radio. What radio format was supposed to play anything from that album?

  104. Taylor had so many problems from not being a commercially viable recording artist to having a terrible relationship with his label to not being relevant that it is really unfair to blame it on radio. What radio format was supposed to play anything from that album?

    It’s not like I blame the radio, lol. I blame the Idol producers. They put him through to the voting rounds, it’s all their fault. :D

  105. It’s not radio’s fault and it’s not Taylor’s fault. The fault is entirely with Sony Records. They made one crappy over-produced cd. Did they really think copying Ray Charles was going to be a hit? Not only that, but they had some of the worst pop ballads I have ever heard. They totally did not get Taylor who is more country blues than soft pop. Taylor was Bo Biced.

  106. However one talent show did successfully find real stars, Star Search — Britney, JT, Xtina, Beyonce, Usher and many more.

    TRUE! And most of those people didn’t even win the whole shebang, but they still found mega success years later. Ditto the actors and comedians that did the show. Wasn’t that were Rosie O’Donnell came from?

    Anyway, Idol has given many folks long lasting careers. It deserves some kudoos IMO.

  107. Anyway, Idol has given many folks long lasting careers. It deserves some kudoos IMO.

    Exactly.

    Some politician had some mantra, he asked are you better off now than you were 4 years ago? To a one, I think all idol winners and runner ups can say hell yes as far as a before and after idol. Not a fail at all. Creating a superstar isn’t easy or we would have more. Truthfully Star Search didn’t create Xtina, Usher, or JT. Only discovered them. If you’ve watched the trajectory of these careers you would understand how fortuitous they were to have broken when they did, as it could not have happened now. The industry is different, and these idol contestants know it. I think some of us viewers are just behind the curve, or our expectations are far higher than they should be. Also, none of them came off that show with immediate success. They worked their asses off for years to achieve superstardom. I have a distinct feeling that some of these folk who we ridicule are one hit, one co-write, one bit part from going from zero to hero. Take that Guarini kid, getting ready to co-star with Patti Lupone……it’s not a big leap to suggest what that opportunity could do for him 9 years after being runner up to Kelly.

    Instant gratification feels good at the time, but imagine what this opportunity means to him, after being one of idol’s so called failures. Context, and expectations, gotta luv it.

  108. However one talent show did successfully find real stars, Star Search — Britney, JT, Xtina, Beyonce, Usher and many more.

    Not really true. The early success of Kelly Clarkson, Carrie Underwood, Daughtry were all linked directly to American Idol, not so for those in Star Search. Justin Timberlake’s real success came after joining ‘N Sync (he was trying to do country on Star Search under another name), Usher had some minor success after being spotted on Star Search, but again his real success came later. You can hardly say anything came out of Star Search for Britney, Christina and others.

    Star Search is just a show many many people wanting to make a success in the entertainment industry passed through, but it did not make them stars. Star Search didn’t make David Archuleta a star, American Idol did.

  109. I’m glad Randy is back. Jennifer is gorgeous! Steve Tyler, I’ll wait and see. Adam chose his songs to sing, so hmmm…. Aerosmith is awesome I think.

  110. It’s not either/or, it’s in between. Idol attracts all kinds of people, including music lovers. It’s a game and it’s also about music, it’s not all one or the other. I suppose that’s why many of us have a love/hate relationship with the show, hating the gimmicks and manipulation, but loving the music part of it, the discovery of talent. The show has discovered many true talents who are doing well in the world. I feel sorry for anyone who has such a narrow definition of music that only “superstars” are worthy. There are hundrds, maybe thousands of musical artists making a living doing what they love, only a relative few can be superstars, and that’s okay, there’s room for everyone. I love Idol for the talent and the dreams of the singers, I try to fast forward through the rest but this season I hope I won’t have to so much :)

  111. I think someone threw tickle juice on them!

    I’m glad Randy is back.

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