Monday Morning Mediabase Update – Up Until Midnight 10/18/09

Here are your Monday Morning Mediabase Updates for airplay as of midnight of 10/18/09.

Brooke White:
“Radio Radio”: 36 AC (45)

Carrie Underwood:
“Cowboy Casanova” : ^6 Country (6)

Daughtry:
“No Surprise”: 3 HAC (3), 10 AC (10)

David Cook:
“Come Back To Me”: 15 AC (15)

Elliott Yamin:
“Can’t Keep on Loving…”: 37 AC (40)

Jordin Sparks:
“Battlefield”: 20 HAC (21), 18 Pop (12), ^21 AC (20)
“S.O.S. (Let the Music…)” ^44 Pop (52)

Katharine McPhee:
“Had it All” : ^44 AC (45)

Kellie Pickler:
“Didn’t You Know How…”: ^34 Country (35)

Kelly Clarkson:
“Already Gone”: ^8 HAC (9), ^12 Pop (14)

Kris Allen:
“Live Like We Are Dying”: ^41 HAC (45)

Lakisha Jones:
“Same Song”: 32 UAC (30)

Mandisa:
“He is With You”: ^23 CAC (23)

Phil Stacey:
“You’re Not Shaken”: 17 CAC (16)

Ruben Studdard:
“Don’t Make ‘Em Like…”: ^29 UAC (32)

Note: Numbers indicate position on the chart while numbers in brackets indicate the position on the chart the previous week. ‘^’  indicates that the song has a bullet in that format.

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78 Comments

  1. Anticipating the Questions:

    Kris’s LLWD went for adds last week. It currently gets 799 spins last week (294 in HAC, 496 in Pop, 1 in Active and 8 in Rhythmic)

    Allison’s “Friday, I’ll Be Over You” will go for adds on Pop on October 27th (next Tuesday). It received 5 spins last week (2 in HAC and 3 in Pop).

    Jason’s “Let’s Just Fall in Love Again” went for adds two weeks ago. It had 210 spins last week (2 in HAC and 208 in Pop).

    Adam’s “Time for Miracle’s” has not gone for adds nor formally been released and has no radio spins (which would make sense).

  2. Kris should hit 40 on the HAC sometime this week. The song also had a very good update today on the Top 40 chart. It’ will probably hit 50 on the Top 40 chart by the end of the week. Once it does it will appear on the published chart.

    LLWD is actually doing better on Pop than HAC which is kind of a surprise.

  3. ‘S.O.S. (Let the Music’ ¦)’  ^52 Pop (44)

    On the Jordin song the 52 should be in brackets as it was 52 last week and up to 44 this week.

  4. yesterday, I heard LLWD (not LLYD jpfan) while driving in Montreal.. woohoo.. it crossed the border.. :)

  5. On the Jordin song the 52 should be in brackets as it was 52 last week and up to 44 this week.

    Gah! Of course. I wouldn’t have been able to see it otherwise. Thanks jdanton2. I’ll fix it.

  6. Kris’ iTunes sales seem to be consistent. They’re improving but aren’t OMG fantastic. I sure hope 19 has some nice promo lined up for him before the album drops. I think LLWD will be a Pop hit by then but not big enough to give him a great first week.

  7. I swear I never knew people tracked this stuff, but I guess it makes sense that artists would want to know how often their song is played. So with Chris D numbers that means they are weaning this song out of the rotation because that’s awfully low?

  8. Kris is #2 on the Top 40 “Taking Off” chart this morning, I think he was #3 yesterday. Two adds so far this morning, one of which is a CBS Radio-owned station – that is good news as no CBS stations had previously added LLWD. I’m hoping to see West Coast adds today & tomorrow!!

    LLWD has moved about 20 spots on iTunes over the past couple of days, so it makes sense as non-Idol types are exposed to the song with the increased radio spin, they are buying the single. I’m excited!

  9. The Daughtry is doing great. The number 3 means it’s the third most played song on the HAC chart. On the charts 1 is the best number, of course.

  10. I hope Kris’ single gains momentum in the coming days. Do we have updated numbers for total singles sold?

  11. The Daughtry is doing great. The number 3 means it’s the third most played song on the HAC chart. On the charts 1 is the best number, of course.

    I thought that meant spins – I don’t get this stuff.

  12. I thought that meant spins ‘“ I don’t get this stuff.

    No, the numbers posted are the rankings.

    Here is a link to the Mediabase HAC chart. It only lists the top 40 songs, but it is viewable by all. I use the AllAccess (owned by Mediabase) charts for this thread because it let’s us see down to top 50, but you need to sign up for an account to see it.

    So, let us look at the numbers in reference to Daughtry’s song as we go across the columns of the chart.

    Peak: 1 – highest ranking on the chart
    lw (Rank): 3 – Ranking on the chart last week
    TW (Rank): Ranking on the Chart this week.
    Bullet: Indicating if the song is increasing in spins (“No Surprise” is not)
    Artist:
    Title:
    Label:
    Year: Year the song was released
    TW (Spins): 3733 – Number of spins in the previous 7 days
    lw (Spins): 3837 – Number of spins in the 7 days before that
    Move (Spins): -104 – Number of spins difference between the two weeks
    On: 97 – Number of stations playing the song
    TW: 38.1 – Average number of times each station plays the song
    lw: 39.2 – Average number of times each station played the song the previous week
    plus/-: -1.1 – The difference in the average number of spins between this week and last.

    This chart doesn’t show the AI (audience impressions), but it was at 15.988 million AI last week. That means that it was estimated that the song was heard 15.988million times last week (based on the number of listeners that Arbitron has measured for each radio station and each time slot during which the song was spun).

    Most of the charts rank based on the number of spins, but some rank on the audience impressions.

    I swear I never knew people tracked this stuff

    Believe me, they track this stuff down to the minute detail. If you go into the sub-charts on AllAccess, you can see at what time of day each of these songs are played on each of the top 20 spinning stations.

    Again, if we look at Daughtry, WKRQ played it 81 times this week and 41 times the week before. It played it 26 times overnight, 15 times during the morning rush, 11 times mid-day, 13 times during the drive home and 16 times in the evening. Audience impressions for that station alone were 477K.

  13. I thought that meant spins ‘“ I don’t get this stuff.

    LOL! A lot of this stuff is foreign to me too – you’re not alone. Though Kirsten and others are such a great help in answering all the questions!

    Yes, those numbers for everyone would be really really bad if they were just spins ;-)

  14. Eileen99: Kris is #2 on the Top 40 ‘Taking Off’  chart this morning, I think he was #3 yesterday. Two adds so far this morning, one of which is a CBS Radio-owned station ‘“ that is good news as no CBS stations had previously added LLWD. I’m hoping to see West Coast adds today & tomorrow!!

    LLWD has moved about 20 spots on iTunes over the past couple of days, so it makes sense as non-Idol types are exposed to the song with the increased radio spin, they are buying the single. I’m excited!

    I think it is still too early to know what effect the radio airplay will have on LLWD but I don’t see any trend change on iTunes yet. Currently, LLWD is #131 on iTunes — I saw it as high as #117 (Friday) and as low as #146 but it has been centered around #132 for the past 5 days.

    For a song ranked below 50 on iTunes, it only takes a minor sales change of a song or the songs ranked near it to cause the kind of rank volitility that LLWD has shown since 10/12 — the day if went for Radio Adds.

  15. Yes, thank you for the more in depth explanation, Kirsten! I asked this before (but not sure if you saw it), but do you have a background in music/radio, etc. because you’re our resident expert in this area I think :-)

  16. Yes, thank you for the more in depth explanation, Kirsten! I asked this before (but not sure if you saw it), but do you have a background in music/radio, etc. because you’re our resident expert in this area I think

    No, I don’t have a background in it. Just another persistent Idol/numbers nut.

  17. As more people hear LLWD on more and more stations, more people will buy it. It’s as simple as that – it doesn’t need to be much deeper. As the spins increase daily, the adds increase weekly, it follows that the sales will increase. Of course the two are related.

  18. Eileen99: As more people hear LLWD on more and more stations, more people will buy it. It’s as simple as that ‘“ it doesn’t need to be much deeper. As the spins increase daily, the adds increase weekly, it follows that the sales will increase. Of course the two are related.

    I agree — some songs have a lot of sales momentum when the radio support starts — Britney’s “3” for example — almost always from established artists. Songs from new artists take longer. I am not actual sure but think Idols should fall in the middle — not quite new artists, but certainly not established. I think we should know something about how LLWD will do after about 10 to 14 days of airplay. But who knows in this current odd music market — digital free distro + bad economy = ?

    Kristan, do you knw what happened in the past with Idol winners — radio airplay and sales?

  19. As more people hear LLWD on more and more stations, more people will buy it. It’s as simple as that ‘“ it doesn’t need to be much deeper. As the spins increase daily, the adds increase weekly, it follows that the sales will increase. Of course the two are related.

    I agree that more radio spins will increase sales. But a song needs to charts in sales after a certain period and/or certain spins, otherwise radio stations will move on to new songs.

    I think Jiva is doing a good job in pushing LLWD in radio play. LLWD has its banner on Z100 and Kris did several radio interviews and two concerts last week. The promotion is working. LLWD was in a downward trend at the beginning of last week, bottom out at #149 on itune chart. But after the high school concert, the sliding paused and LLWD climbed back and stays stable around #130.

    I guess the sales will similar to the week before, around $13,000. We’ll see what will happen this week and that whether Jiva will keep promoting LLWD if it doesn’t climb to top 100 in sales chart end of this week.

  20. No, I don’t have a background in it. Just another persistent Idol/numbers nut.

    Whoa! That’s even more awesome! Again, many thanks for all the answers and help crunching these numbers :-)

  21. I am not actual sure but think Idols should fall in the middle ‘” not quite new artists, but certainly not established. I think we should know something about how LLWD will do after about 10 to 14 days of airplay.

    Idol single sales typically get a boost for the first week or so, then everything goes back to normal. So Kris’ sales will rise with his airplay form here on out. Its not the number of days/weeks that we should be watching IMO, its the level of audience impressions that should give us clue what he should be selling. Along as he’s selling at roughly the same rate as songs reaching about the same audience, he’s good.

  22. As more people hear LLWD on more and more stations, more people will buy it. It’s as simple as that ‘“ it doesn’t need to be much deeper. As the spins increase daily, the adds increase weekly, it follows that the sales will increase. Of course the two are related.

    I would offer a counter-argument to this, which is that if people really really like the song they hear on the radio, and feel compelled enough to buy it, THEN the sales will naturally pick up.

    The worst thing to see right now would be an increase in adds, and even spins starting with last week and into this week, that isn’t followed by a jump on the itunes chart. That would mean people are hearing it on the radio (if the AI number increases a lot, for instance), but don’t care enough about it to buy it.

    Not saying that will happen, just that, without any OTHER kind of substantial marketing to support it and get the word out, the radio play is the most substantial form of PR for the single right now.

  23. Kristan, do you knw what happened in the past with Idol winners ‘” radio airplay and sales

    Kristan? Are you saying I’m some kind of Stan? LOL. Alright, I am. I stalk numbers.

    And my spelling sucks.

    Okay, focus. Question. Typically, they are released and the fans buy like crazy. The first couple of days/weeks are a measure of the hardcore fan base. Then, the numbers drift down until they are supported by airplay. If no airplay comes, they fall off the cliff (with possible surges when they do big television appearances). If they get good airplay, then they usually do well in sales in proportion to their airplay (if not possibly a little better).

    That LLWD has seemed to stabilized on iTunes is a good sign. It may have reached the airplay support phase and increases in spins should bring increases in sales (no guarantee though). It’s tough to figure out when that point is reached because there are so many variables (e.g. naturally decreasing fan-buying meeting the rising radio listener demand).

  24. I’ve noticed that in the past week, LLWD got more spins on Pop stations than on HAC ones, which is a turnaround from what it was doing when it was first released. Don’t know what that means in terms of breaking into the Top 40 in either format.

    Do we know where LLWD ranked on the pop chart for this period? I see it says it ranked #41 on the HAC chart.

    So far today, 3 stations have been reported as ading LLWD – Hot AC stations in Hartford, CT and Columbus, OH and a top 40 station in Jacksonville, FL. I expect to see a bunch more add LLWD today or tomorrow…

  25. The worst thing to see right now would be an increase in adds, and even spins starting with last week and into this week, that isn’t followed by a jump on the itunes chart. That would mean people are hearing it on the radio (if the AI number increases a lot, for instance), but don’t care enough about it to buy it.

    It’s not a straight linear equation. People don’t tend to hear the song once and immediately buy it. Some do, but I don’t think most people do.

    Sales (aside from the sales to Stans), tend to be more like driving a tanker ship. It takes a while to turn them.

  26. Do we know where LLWD ranked on the pop chart for this period? I see it says it ranked #41 on the HAC chart.

    We don’t have access to the entire chart anymore (Mediabase evilly expects to be paid for that kind of stuff ;-) ), but we can guess.

    LLWD has 496 spins in Pop last week. Now, that’s published and unpublished stations so the amount for the published may be a bit less (although all of his HAC spins are on published stations). Let’s look at spins last week for others:

    51: Jessie James: 502
    52: Jordin Sparks: 471
    53: Nickelback: 455
    56: Boys Like Girls: 404

    (these artists moved out of the 50s to the 40s this week)

    If this week’s chart look’s like last week’s chart and guessing at the number of unpublished spins, I’d say that Kris is sitting 53rd or better (likely better). If he can sustain his spincrease, he should hit the top 50 this week.

    Note: Not all of the stations the Mediabase monitors are used to create their published charts. Mediabase does not monitor all stations so it creates a “basket” of representative stations for its published charts.

  27. Not saying that will happen, just that, without any OTHER kind of substantial marketing to support it and get the word out, the radio play is the most substantial form of PR for the single right now.

    Kris just finished the shooting of LLWD video. There will be another promotion using that.

  28. LMAO, Kirsten you shall evermore be known as Kirstan, the numbers stan, to me.

    Idol Chatter says LLWD is at #56 on the Top 40 chart.

    I agree with whomever (Kirsten?) that most people will buy LLWD after a few listens, not the first. That seems to jive (no pun intended) with marketing advice we’ve been given for my own company – a customer needs to see your name 6 times (give or take) before they recognize/internalize it.

    In any event, the increased adds/spins are nothing but good news for Kris. The singles that build over time seem to have the most staying power. I have no empirical evidence to support this, only an intuitive guess. No doubt someone will shoot me down if this is not correct, LOL. I hope we’ve seen LLWD bottom out on iTunes, and now we’ll get a slow and steady uptick in sales. Kris is in it for the long haul, as he’s stated. His fans should be, too.

  29. I guess the sales will similar to the week before, around $13,000. We’ll see what will happen this week and that whether Jiva will keep promoting LLWD if it doesn’t climb to top 100 in sales chart end of this week.

    Kris did just film the Music Video which when released will also increase interest so that fact 19 is ready to spend money on the MV (and it’s release) means they will probably support the song for awhile.

    Now if the Music Video release does not increase sales that is another entire discussion on the success (or lack of) with LLWD.

  30. I’m trying to predict when the LLWD music video will premiere. I saw on ontd_ai that one of Daughtry’s videos premiered 11 days after it was shot, but others were more in the 3-week range. I’m hoping LLWD will premiere no later than next weekend (not this coming one, the one after that) which would be 2 weeks after it was shot.

  31. Kris just finished the shooting of LLWD video. There will be another promotion using that.

    That’s true – the mv will be new promotion, as will each subsequent Kris appearance doing interviews, performing, etc. Now that the album is finished (for his part), and they’re even choosing the final songs today, he will be much more free going forward to start ramping up the PR for the single and album. So it won’t just be the radio play (though I imagine that’s still one of, if not, the most significant source of PR.)

  32. Others have already said what I was thinking, I don’t think that I’ve ever purchased a single after the first listen, I don’t think it works that way for anyone.

  33. I had this in the headlines thread, but maybe it’s more apt here?

    It seems kind of strange to me that they just did the Kris music video now, when his song has been out for a while and went for heavy adds last week. Allison’s filming her video at the same time and her heavy adds don’t start until 10/27. What’s the usual timeframe?

  34. babybelle32
    October 19, 2009 at 12:17 pm
    Others have already said what I was thinking, I don’t think that I’ve ever purchased a single after the first listen, I don’t think it works that way for anyone.

    I agree for artists I’m not familiar with or not already a fan. However, for artists that I’m familiar with and like, I’ve bought a song after the first listen LOTS of times.

  35. Does Mediabase track Dance Club/Play?

    I don’t have the answer to that but would like to add another source that I was wondering if Mediabase tracks. Another poster and I have heard LLWD being played through our cable tv (comcast) music channels (those 900+ channels). Do you know if that counts as anything? Thanks, Kirsten!

  36. CindyM, I think it seems strange, too, that they just finished filming the LLWD video. Seems late to me. Maybe that week in London really threw off the timeframe? Allison seems to be on a better schedule for the video release to coincide with her radio adds.

  37. Girlygirl, I saw that yesterday, too, about the timeframe of Daughtry’s video. I am hopeful that since LLWD is already released for adds that they will expedite the production as much as possible. I do think Kris getting so sick at the end of the tour may have caused a lot of rescheduling to occur (the album photo shoot for one thing), which then had a domino effect on other things …. don’t know, though.

  38. Does Mediabase track Dance Club/Play?

    They might. I haven’t seen a Mediabase chart for that, though. I do know that Billboard tracks them. Here is a link to their Dance/Club Play Songs

    LLWD timing for videos…it might be a tad late, but videos don’t seem to be released with the songs. They’re seems to be a bit of a lag for the filming of them. They generally take two to three weeks in post-production.

    Another poster and I have heard LLWD being played through our cable tv (comcast) music channels (those 900+ channels).

    I’m not sure what chart that would be applicable to, but I’m sure somebody is monitoring those spins.

  39. Eileen99
    October 19, 2009 at 12:27 pm
    I do think Kris getting so sick at the end of the tour may have caused a lot of rescheduling to occur (the album photo shoot for one thing), which then had a domino effect on other things ‘ ¦. don’t know, though

    .

    Ah, I forgot about Kris getting sick. Maybe that’s the reason for the difference in timing for the two videos of Kris and Allison. Makes more sense to me now.

  40. I do think Kris getting so sick at the end of the tour may have caused a lot of rescheduling to occur (the album photo shoot for one thing), which then had a domino effect on other things ‘ ¦. don’t know, though.

    I keep seeing this. Did I miss something? Kris was sick with a flu type bug that went through all the guys (except Danny). He missed one concert but was able to sing at the next concert two days later.
    Kris wasn’t in the hospital or on bed rest for a couple of weeks. I recall he went to the pharmacy to pick up his own meds. Why would a 2-5 day flu bug completely throw everything off?

  41. I’ve been listening to my station here in Albuquerque KPEK, and I guess they added LLWD last week but I haven’t heard it yet. I listen M-F at work for about 8 hours a day. Is there somewhere I can find out if they’ve spun it and what times? I’d get a kick out of hearing it on the radio but no luck yet.

  42. Others have already said what I was thinking, I don’t think that I’ve ever purchased a single after the first listen, I don’t think it works that way for anyone.

    I actually have done this quite often, but I agree that I’m probably not in the majority on this :-) Still, especially for independent, obscure songs, or songs in movies, believe it or not, I will hear it once, slowly get entranced by it (even only hearing it once) and have to buy it.

  43. Thanks Kirsten!
    Blake’s Sad Song seems to be doing well in this format. It’s at #21 this week up +5 from last week and is one of the titles with the greatest airplay and sales gains this week

    Go Blake!

  44. Re: Scheduling – for most of us, being sick for 2-5 days wouldn’t cause too much havoc, but they had Kris scheduled so tightly that being under the weather could create problems. One of the band members (Kokoki?) said they never saw Kris because 19 had him so busy. With something like album shoot and music video, I can’t imagine they would want to go forward with something that important with someone not feeling/looking their best.

    This is all speculation, however, so his illness might not have had any impact whatsoever. Kris hasn’t checked in with me on his schedule, unfortunately. Darn him.

  45. I keep seeing this. Did I miss something? Kris was sick with a flu type bug that went through all the guys (except Danny). He missed one concert but was able to sing at the next concert two days later.
    Kris wasn’t in the hospital or on bed rest for a couple of weeks. I recall he went to the pharmacy to pick up his own meds. Why would a 2-5 day flu bug completely throw everything off?

    IDK, but maybe he was sicker than the other guys. Swine flu kills some people, but some people don’t even realize they have it (I’m not saying he had swine flu, just using it as a topical example). Plus, while you might be willing to send somebody out to sing for a concert (where people just want to see the guy live) when you don’t want to spend money recording his voice sounding trashed. That, and he looked sick. Again, not the best album covers when somebody looks like they want puke. Although, they can work miracles with photoshop.

    Being sick certainly didn’t help the schedule, but his video isn’t being recorded all that late (if late at all). I seem to recall Daughtry’s first video didn’t come out until after Christmas (don’t quote me on that. I just remember much angst about it).

  46. Kirsten–Being sick certainly didn’t help the schedule, but his video isn’t being recorded all that late (if late at all). I seem to recall Daughtry’s first video didn’t come out until after Christmas (don’t quote me on that. I just remember much angst about it).

    I didn’t think it was late either until I saw that Allison finished filming her video the same night that Kris did and her song doesn’t go for adds until 10/27. Seeing as they are on the same label, I thought it was odd. Maybe Allison’s music video timing is the anomaly.

    As far as using Daughtry as an example, isn’t RCA (Daughtry’s label) known more for doing things a bit later than Jive? I think that’s the gist of what I got reading this blog.

  47. while waiting for the idol sales thread, here is the first update from hits daily double…

    with 36.20% of vendors reporting…

    40 DAVID ARCHULETA JIVE/JLG 3,385
    CHRISTMAS FROM THE HEART

    ps….. no sign yet of bob dylan’s christmas cd in the top 50…

    david, so far, is the only christmas /holiday release in the top 50…

    keep ’em coming hdd!

    http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi

  48. As far as using Daughtry as an example, isn’t RCA (Daughtry’s label) known more for doing things a bit later than Jive? I think that’s the gist of what I got reading this blog.

    That’s just for releasing Idol debut singles. They get the lead out for other performers.

    Let’s look at Jive’s Idol Debut song history (from wiki):

    Tattoo (Jordin):
    – August 23rd – Song leaked
    – August 24th – Z100 premiere
    – Sept 1-2 – filmed video
    – Sept 25th – iTunes release date
    – Nov 1 – premiered video on Yahoo

    Crush (Archie):
    – August 1st – Z100 premiere
    – Sept 16th – US video released

    Live Like We’re Dying (Kris):
    – Sept 21st – Z100 premiere
    – Oct 17th – Video filmed

  49. Another appearance for Kris.

    Kris Allen Playing At 107.9 The End Jingle Ball 2009
    Tuesday December, 1, 2009
    http://www.endonline.com/

    It’s a very youth oriented lineup.

    Z100 won’t announce its full lineup until Monday, October 26th. As much as they play LLWD, I would be shocked if he isn’t on the bill.

  50. I agree with whomever (Kirsten?) that most people will buy LLWD after a few listens, not the first. That seems to jive (no pun intended) with marketing advice we’ve been given for my own company ‘“ a customer needs to see your name 6 times (give or take) before they recognize/internalize it.

    THIS. I can only speak for myself, but just as an example I heard Shinedown’s “Second Chance” several months ago (thanks to copious viewings of VH-1’s Video Countdown, tracking David’s “Come Back To Me” vid) and it took me a couple of months before I finally knew I liked it enough to buy it. Hell, I’ve loved Little Feat’s “Dixie Chicken” forEVER and I only just bought it last week, lol!

    I bought Kris’ single because I’m a fan and I jumped on it as soon as it was released. Was anyone out there waiting with baited breath for Shinedown’s song to come out? Give LLWD time to percolate…believe it or not, a majority of music buyers DON’T watch Idol and will discover Kris (or Adam, or Allison) on their own.

  51. Tripp – yes, I just saw that as well, we must go to the same places. ITA – if Kris isn’t at the Z100 Jingle Ball I will be completely shocked.

  52. I just looked at the Idol spin list a little more closely – LOL that No Boundaries still manages to get spins…. where? I can see Heartless still getting a few, but NoBo?

  53. I just looked at the Idol spin list a little more closely ‘“ LOL that No Boundaries still manages to get spins’ ¦. where?

    I don’t know the specific stations, but it’s getting 25 on pop, 13 spins on HAC and 9 spins on AC.

  54. CindyM, here’s the link where you can find spin information: http://addboard.mediabase.com/SongAddHistory.asp?Sngcde=ALLELLWD&ob=1&format=A2H1

    The station that you mentioned didn’t play the song last week, but if you want to hear it, it’s a very good idea to call in and request it. Some stations may not play a song unless they know that there is a demand for it.

    I don’t think that Kris is filming his video at a late date. I doubt he could have filmed it earlier, since he was spending all of his free time completing the album. Of course, that would take precedence over anything else. It has even taken precedence over promoting the album.

  55. Another appearance for Kris.

    Kris Allen Playing At 107.9 The End Jingle Ball 2009
    Tuesday December, 1, 2009
    http://www.endonline.com/

    It’s a very youth oriented lineup.

    Z100 won’t announce its full lineup until Monday, October 26th. As much as they play LLWD, I would be shocked if he isn’t on the bill.

    Thank you so much for posting this. I will be buying my tickets on Saturday for sure. Have to get the best seats. This is a great lineup. Our family knows each and every performer on this concert.

  56. CindyM: I didn’t think it was late either until I saw that Allison finished filming her video the same night that Kris did and her song doesn’t go for adds until 10/27. Seeing as they are on the same label, I thought it was odd. Maybe Allison’s music video timing is the anomaly.

    My totally top-of-the-head guess is that maybe her schedule was compressed because her single was recorded relatively late. My theory is that they knew they were going to use FIBOU or at least some song from the Max Martin sessions as the single, but they couldn’t get her into the studio with him until after the tour. Thus, a relatively late recording of the single, pushing the add date to late this month.

    Or maybe it’s the phase of the moon….

  57. babybelle32
    October 19, 2009 at 2:53 pm
    CindyM, here’s the link where you can find spin information: http://addboard.mediabase.com/SongAddHistory.asp?Sngcde=ALLELLWD&ob=1&format=A2H1

    The station that you mentioned didn’t play the song last week, but if you want to hear it, it’s a very good idea to call in and request it. Some stations may not play a song unless they know that there is a demand for it.

    Thanks, I’ve favorited the site! I’m sure they will start playing the song, one of the dj’s was a big fan of Kradison during the season.

  58. Thanks for the chart babybelle32. I love it when people bring new things to the board!

    Numbers, numbers, numbers, numbers!

  59. super excited about the WPLJ add – they are the biggest Hot AC station in the NY area

  60. I’m not sure what the * next to the station name means. YAY! for WPLJ adding him!

    *’s indicate auto-adds. Some stations have a policy that if they play a song N times, they auto-add it. Other stations make decisions about it.

  61. Kris looks to be another Jordin style winner. She started on with meh ablum sales but built sales on her Pop hit (s). I don’t think radio stations pay that much attention to iTunes though. They’re more concerned with audience response – phone calls, requests, etc. Although iTunes should go up with increased radio play. It’s very rare that they don’t go together.

  62. jpan, that’s pretty much what Brian Mansfield says in his latest article:

    Kris Allen continues his progress up the Hot AC (#41) and Top 40 (#56) charts with Live Like We’re Dying, picking up 273 spins overall. This might be a good time to revisit something I said at the start of the American Idols Live tour. You remember how I said that Kris’ success would live and die on his songs and arrangements, and several people asked if that wasn’t obviously true for any act? What’s going on right now with Kris’ and Adam Lambert’s respective career shows what I meant. Adam is getting blockbuster movie soundtrack placements and posing with naked women in Details magazine before his first single is even out, while Kris is slugging it out on the charts to pick up 273 spins. To some degree, it doesn’t even matter what Adam’s single sounds like. But it’s everything for Kris at this point.

  63. My only disagreement with Brian Mansfield is that I do think it will matter what Adam’s single sounds like. It won’t matter to his Idol fans who’ll buy it but it will matter to radio.

  64. 2 more adds for Kris, making 8 altogether, 1 Top 40 and 7 HAC.

    WAYV-FM Hot AC Atlantic City, NJ
    * WDVD-FM Hot AC Detroit

  65. Does Mediabase track Dance Club/Play?

    No, but they do provide an idea of what dance music is popular. Mediabase tracks 1,800+ radio stations in 175 measured media markets. They classify radio stations by 25 genres. For FBMQ stations only, there is a Dance classification; most other “dance” stations are classified as CHR/Rhythmic. To make it a bit more complicated, FMQB Dance stations also report to CHR/Rhythmic)

    Billboard has a Dance/Club Play chart but they compile the week’s most popular songs from reports from a national sample of club DJs. It is difficult to put together and maintain a good sample of club DJs so the chart isn’t the most accurate of the Billboard charts.

    Finally, a lot of the Dance mixes, DJ lists, hot dance play charts are online — and Club DJ’s use social networks to exchange info, special mixes, and so on.

  66. I’m not sure what the * next to the station name means. YAY! for WPLJ adding him!

    Cathy-MK-It’s an auto add. If you look in the upper left-hand corner just above the “station” column, you’ll see this:

    * = Auto Add

  67. Kris Allen continues his progress up the Hot AC (#41) and Top 40 (#56) charts with Live Like We’re Dying, picking up 273 spins overall. This might be a good time to revisit something I said at the start of the American Idols Live tour. You remember how I said that Kris’ success would live and die on his songs and arrangements, and several people asked if that wasn’t obviously true for any act? What’s going on right now with Kris’ and Adam Lambert’s respective career shows what I meant. Adam is getting blockbuster movie soundtrack placements and posing with naked women in Details magazine before his first single is even out, while Kris is slugging it out on the charts to pick up 273 spins. To some degree, it doesn’t even matter what Adam’s single sounds like. But it’s everything for Kris at this point.

    Isn’t this exactly what happened the whole season? So, no surprise there.

  68. 2nd update from hdd’ ¦.

    CHART DATE: 10/19/2009
    LAST UPDATE: 10/19/2009 16:13:32 [pacific time]
    NOW IN: 69.42%

    33 DAVID ARCHULETA JIVE/JLG 10,261
    CHRISTMAS FROM THE HEART

    http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi

    still no sign of bob dylan in the ”christmas from/in the heart” sweepstakes, lolol.. and no other christmas releases from last week yet in the top 50… go david go!

  69. i know frogcooke… he has to be just outside of it… his online sales look to be pretty strong at amazon, walmart, best buy, etc…. i wonder if itunes has reported…

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