Lee DeWyze “Sweet Serendipity” Single Debuts on Ryan Seacrest Show

The new Lee DeWyze single “Sweet Serendipity” debuts on the Ryan Seacrest KIIS radio show this morning at 8:15PT/11:15ET.

  • Listen to a live stream HERE.
  • “Sweet Serendipity”  will be available for purchase on 10/26!

    In case you haven’t heard–the single was changed at the 11th hour from the previously announced “Live it Up” to “Sweet Serendipty”.  The song has not been reviewed by critics yet. We’ll all be listening to it for the first time.

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    Along with the song debut, Ryan will be interviewing Lee live via telephone.  Watch this space for audio…

    Listen to “Sweet Serendipity”

    Lee – SweetSerndipity

    Ryan Seacrest stream of “Sweet Serendipity” (Better Quality but w audio watermarks)

    Lee – Ryan Stream

    Lee’s Interview with Ryan Seacreast

    Lee – Interview

    ETA: Catchy, bouncy, radio-friendly. Exactly the kind of song I figured Lee would record for his post-Idol debut. An Idol’s post Idol debut is always more accessible, polished and pop friendly than music recorded before Idol. So, the sound of “Sweet Serendipity” does not surprise me at all.

    If RCA pushes it properly, “Sweet Serendipity” has potential to get decent radio play.

    UPDATE: Lyndsey Parker from Yahoo Music  says “Sweet Serendipity” has a similar vibe to “Live it Up”, but she likes the latter better, and can’t understand why RCA didn’t leave well enough alone. Read her review HERE.

    Lyrics from RyanSeacrest.com after the jump. They’ve also posted there own stream on the tune. Check it out HERE.

    Sweet Serendipity – Lyrics

    Ain’t got no car
    I Got one pair of jeans
    They’ve been streched too far
    Now they’re weak at the seams
    I can’t say what’s next
    There’s nothing hiding up my sleeve
    But I don’t lose my head
    cause it ain’t really up to me

    Chorus
    And I’m doing just fine I’m always landing on my feet, in the nic of time, and by the skin of my teeth I ain’t gonna stress cause the worst ain’t happend yet somethings watching over me like Sweet Serendipity

    I don’t ask for alot
    nothing more than I need
    Cause I love what I got
    Don’t need to play no lottery
    I just want to be strong
    at the end of the road
    I don’t want to hold on I want the strenght to let go

    Chorus
    And I’m doing just fine I’m always landing on my feet, in the nic of time, by the skin of my teeth I ain’t gonna stress cause the worst ain’t happend yet somethings watching over me like Sweet Serendipity

    And What will be will be, In the Nic of time and by the skin of my teeth
    But I aint gonna stress Cause the Worst Ain’t happened yet
    somethings watching over me like Sweet Serendipity

    Bridge
    Don’t look fate can only find you
    You can’t choose for something to surprise you
    Set sail without a destination
    Just see where the wind takes you
    Jump in, don’t worry about the maybes and what ifs
    No need to play it safe see you
    Never know where a diamond will fall
    I just go where my heart tells me to go

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    497 Comments

    1. Listening to Ryan now.can’t wait to hear the song for the first time with everyone else.I bet lee is super excited.And all his fans.

    2. I’m listening too. Twitter’s been going crazy all morning! I can’t wait to hear the song and hear from Lee :)

    3. Excited and nervous sums it up perfectly! Can’t wait! Two more minutes!

    4. Is there a way for people from outside the U.S. to hear?
      I’m curious how Lee’s single soudns like.

    5. I think that the song was not bad. Though I don’t know if it will be a hit. It sounds like something Dave Matthews might sing and I think that Lee sounded like Dave on the song.

    6. Wow you cant judge a song by the title! I expected a ballad! Pretty catchy..

    7. I like it and I’m not a Lee fan. Not what I expected but I think it will do very well on pop radio. It’s about radio these days for all artists especially the new ones. All the best Lee!

    8. I loved it from the first notes, which rarely happens. Love his muscular, warm voice.

    9. LOVE IT! Very upbeat. Maybe my radio stations just play more variety than most, but I could definately hear that on the radio.

      Also, my first thought was it has a ton of words. I hope he figured out how to sing it live!

    10. After the first listen I’m not crazy about it, but it isn’t awful. Once again the production hides what makes AI singers standout, Lee has a great recording voice, but it is hidden on this song. I get that they were trying to go find a Jason Mraz type of sound, but something is missing, and I think it’s the strong vocals. I need to hear it again, but I just don’t have an emotional connection with the song.

    11. It’s diffently one of those songs that get stuck into your head.And it’s kind of cute.I think it’s one of those songs that I’ll have to get use to.But once I do i’ll probably really start liking it more and more.I hope it does good.And get’s radio play.

    12. Thanks for the link dancin. I liked it! Much more than I expected to honestly. The ryan website doesn’t say who the writer is. Did he get a co-write?

      ETA: super wordy chorus like LLWD for Kris. It’ll be tough to sing the first time live, but Lee’ll work it out I’m sure.

    13. It’s a very pop record. It’s as bouncy as a Jason Mraz record but way way more produced. Lee confirmed that DJs gravitated more towards Sweet Serendipity which is why they picked it as the lead single. He didn’t say anything about who wrote it. People may get on me for this but this is a song I could see Danny Gokey singing.

      I don’t see it being a CHR hit but maybe on HAC. It’s cute.

    14. It’s different than what I expected. Haven’t really decided yet if I like it or not. Good luck to Lee.

    15. There’s no break in between the verses at all. It’ll be a bitch to sing live and really no hook. Good luck to S9.

    16. That wasn’t at all what I expected. I didn’t get much of a Mayer/Mraz vibe from it. It wasn’t bad, but it didn’t blow me away either. I could have done without all the “oh oh ohs”. The tempo is the type that could make it a hit on CHR (very bouncy) but it seems like it is going to be a b*tch to try and sing live…lot of words with little chance to breathe.

      I couldn’t tell from the interview if Lee wrote this song or not. Good luck to him with this

    17. The chorus is awkwardly rushed and doesn’t sound like Lee. Seems Like they tried to go with what worked for Kris, which I guess is fitting as many words as possible into one chorus. So umm.. good job?

    18. Not bad, it’s kinda catchy. It might grow on me, we’ll see. Didn’t love it, but that might be a good thing for radio success Top 40-wise because I sure don’t love most of Top 40 radio ;)

    19. This may get me killed but this is a song I could see Danny Gokey singing.

      IMO, “Sweet Serendipty” is too “poppy” sounding of a song for Danny.

    20. The chorus is awkwardly rushed and doesn’t sound like Lee.

      You know, that was one thought I had – I didn’t think it sounded like Lee at all. Interested to hear it sung live. They sure do iron out any vocal nuances when they make these Idol records.

    21. Well, I love it, Ryan loves it, and it definately sounds current. Lee’s voice sounds great. I was hoping he would start out with an upbeat song!

    22. luly made it’s going to be like what i said above.One of those songs you got to listen to a little bit before you decided.I don’t think it was awful thou.

    23. Listening to it a second time, it’s not that bad. I think it could be a hit if PDs play it. It is over produced, but that’s the case with most songs on the radio today.

    24. How is this John Mayer meets Jason Mraz? Sorry, but damn this is very nasally. Brought out some very odd tones in DeWyze’s voice.

    25. It kind of sounds like something the Script writers would write with all the words.

    26. The lyrics are really stuffed… Not Lee’s old style at all. Either he gained a love for long lyrics or he cowrote with someone who doesn’t know how to express an idea through a song without using a ton of words.

    27. The fact that RCA actually switched to what they felt the PD’s responded better to gives me a sliver of hope they’ll get behind the song. Knowing how they work they could have thrown anything out there.

      I didn’t get much of a Mayer/Mraz vibe from it.

      How is this John Mayer meets Jason Mraz?

      No one really expected it..Ryan said this morning he didnt hear it yet so the Mraz/Mayer thing was about Live It Up.

    28. I think Lee DeWyze has a dance hit on his hands!! That will definitely be played on the pop stations in Chicago. Sweet Serendipity-bouncy, catchy..different from other Lee songs, and shows another side of him. I just wish that some of the posters here would be a bit more positive.To me it sounds EXACTLY like Lee…

    29. Do we know if today is the official release date? Or when it is getting put on iTunes if not today?

    30. The people that are saying this is catchy must have a hell of an impressive attention span, 30 seconds in and my mind was completely checked out from this overproduced schlock.

    31. They put in all the bells and whistles (the ohhh ohhs, etc) to aim at top 40, I think. I notice a lot of Lee’s songs don’t seem to quite end. They just sing a certain section over and over then stop.

      It is listenable enough, I’d not turn it off the radio, but no interest in buying it. Sounds like they smoothed out his pitch problems. It doesn’t sound like him much, though. His previous work never sounded that poppy to me. Curious to know if he wrote this.

    32. Very poppy and head-boppy. I have to admit, I was not digging the first couple of bars because Lee’s voice did not sound Lee’s voice, but once the verses kicked in, his tone came through more. It’s fun, light and fluffy. I have no idea if radio stations will play it…hope so.

    33. jacquesthedog.I think it does sound like a really good dance song.I’d dance to it.I don’t hate the song.I just have to hear it more then once or twice.It’s better then what i thought it would be.I love the beginning with the one pair of jean part in it. It sounds like a fun song.just really wordy but LLWD by Kris is very wordy and look how well that sold.So hopeful the same thing well happen to Lee.I’m going to go listen to it again.

    34. It kind of sounds like something the Script writers would write with all the words.

      LOL, I was just thinking the same thing. It’s funny that last night people were saying the change in first singles was made because the original choice sounded like it might be similar to LLWD, but this song actually constructed like LLWD. I wonder if RCA did that on purpose, are they trying to capitalize on the audience that Kris found with LLWD.

    35. The song is catchy, but really just a generic one. The melody is so basic. His voice almost sounds processed. I hope Lee has more songs on his album like Stay and Annabelle which I love, but of course those will not play on pop radio.

      It once again looks like they were going for the specific pop sound even if doesn’t fit the artist. Performing this one live will be a challenge for Lee, but I’m sure he’ll think of a way to do it.

    36. I think it’s catchy and cute. Reminds me bit of Gavin DeGraw along with Jason Mraz and Dave Matthews. Lee has the best radio voice off Idol since Jordin. I think too many words or no breaks in the chorus is a silly criticism lol! People said the same of LLWD.

    37. I didn’t know what to expect .. It’s OK .. nothing special .. don’t think it’ll do great on radio .. but it’s OK for me .

    38. It doesn’t even sound like him. At times I hear him. Other times I hear someone else singing. Maybe singing over him. Weird. Very manufactured. Not in any league close to Mraz. Not liking it.

    39. I’m trying to imagine a video for this. It’s going to different from what I’m used to from Lee.

      I wish they’d produced this less and made it less poppy. I’d like it better. It’ll be interesting how Lee sounds on this live.

      IMO, “Sweet Serendipity” is too “poppy” sounding of a song for Danny.

      Danny wouldn’t need the production. But stylewise IMO it fits him, it’s basically what would happen if the message of My Best Days Are Ahead Of Me were set to the melody of Be Somebody. Plus their voices are similar (Danny being the better singer of course).

    40. It’s…okay. I could see people humming along. And I agree that the tempo might help sell it on CHR.

      But the lyrics are typically obvious (even if he didn’t write them), the chorus is totally overprocessed, and I loathe the bridge.

      And he’s going to have to sing it live. It’s really wordy without a lot of spaces to breathe; not the ideal choice for someone who has known issues with staying on pitch.

      I hope those PDs really did get behind it.

    41. artemis:
      10/13/2010 at 11:32 am
      Well, I love it, Ryan loves it, and it definately sounds current. Lee’s voice sounds great. I was hoping he would start out with an upbeat song!

      I’m with you! Modern, radio friendly and freaking CURRENT!!!! YAY!

    42. Oh yeah, and as others have pointed out .. yet another wayyy over-produced Idol song .. shame because Lee has an intriguing voice.

    43. I think everyone just got surprised my not hearing the typical Lee song…I listened to again a few times and it is awesome! Give it chance, it is upbeat, catchy and fun!
      My first listen was like…what was that, it seems fast but the second and third times I was totally into…I think he has a great song here and I think is will do amazng!!

    44. Kris learned how to perform LLWD live…and that was wordier than this song. So I think Lee will be fine performing this live once he gets a little practice doing it.

    45. It kind of sounds like something the Script writers would write with all the words.

      That’s exactly what a thought. Maybe are compensating for Lee’s not so great live singing with putting so many words in a song it’s impossible to tell.

      I do seeing it getting to Top 20 with a push and RCA will push it.

    46. That’s certainly not what I expected. Not bad actually, I can see it do reasonably well. It probably needs something better in the middle (it sounds slightly messy in parts), but otherwise OK. I like the song better than Kris’ LLWD, although neither songs are what I would choose to listen to.

    47. I do find it sort of ironic that people on my twitter feed are commenting it sounds like something The Script would write.

    48. And Lee did say a few times to expect to be surprised, that this will be different from his previous work, so yes, he did fantastic to realize what the market likes and needs. Smart business man too.

    49. I’m not an Idol watcher and don’t ‘know’ Lee but I like the vibe of this song and the tone of his voice. Would not dream of speculating about it’s potential for radio success, though.

    50. I was prepared to hate the song, but I actually love it! This song is very radio friendly!

    51. And he’s going to have to sing it live. It’s really wordy without a lot of spaces to breathe; not the ideal choice for someone who has known issues with staying on pitch.

      ITA

      I can’t even begin to imagine him doing this live.

      It doesn’t even sound like him. I am totally unimpressed.

    52. Ugh…a worst case scenario. Almost sounds Justin Bieberish. Shallow, forgettable, mindless, overproduced, Pop 40 junk. Won’t be buying that album if this is any indication of what it’s all about.

    53. They definitely used the autotune or some other vocal processing on this, especially noticeable on the chorus. Very nasally. I can’t say I enjoyed this song. The chorus is way too crowded with words. To me, this sounds like in trying for a ‘hit’ they threw in all the formulas that have paid off before, mixed it together, and called it a song. I couldn’t even get through a second listen – it just sounded like processed noise to me.

      I’m not a fan of current pop radio so I have no idea what people who listen to that stuff will want to hear. I do think the words ‘sweet serendipity’ are not easy ones to sing along with, if that counts for anything.

    54. Ok, my take on it – it was reminiscent of LLWD (especially the message), and even more wordy than LLWD. When I first heard LLWD I thought it had strong hit potential because it was really catchy (especially the chorus). This song is less catchy, more wordy, but could still do ok on radio. IDK, hard to tell. I think having so many words in the chorus could hurt it’s chances of being a bigger pop hit. People want pop songs with easy hooks that they can sing along to easily.

    55. After listening to the song many, many more times, the melody really hooks me in. It’s very upbeat and light, I love it. Plus Lee+piano always works for me.

      If they ‘popped’ it up to make it more Top 40 friendly, I’m all for it. It gets his name out there :)

    56. OMG and the thought of Lee doing this live, um, yeah…that should be interesting. LOL

    57. Wow, it could be have been a solid song but the production just killed it big time. So echo-ey, like badminton balls bouncing off the walls. Add to it that Lee’s voice is too heavy for the song. This should very much suited for voices like Adam Young of The Owl City.

    58. I think the song is similar in vibe to LLWD, but not as good (and I don’t like LLWD at all). I only like one of the four or five Lee voices I heard in the song and agree with those who think that a lot of it (especially the choruses) doesn’t sound like him.

    59. Oh wow. It sounds JUST like Kris’s single. Wordy McOverpruduced! Why this single?

    60. Way too rushed sounding for me, actually made my head ache by the time it ended. Definitely reminds me of LLWD, which I didn’t care for either. For those saying it will make a good dance song, really? I would probably have a coronary if I tried to dance to this.

      I have no idea how it will do on radio. If the label spends enough money it’ll be a “hit”. If not, I don’t see it just organically taking off. But what do I know.

    61. So Lee finally got a traditional Idol Coronation Song!

      Cheesy, overly optimistic. I’m about to step off into something unknown, but gee, look how I’ve been blessed (by TPTB). To be played at graduations and camp closings everywhere! It worked for all the past winners – up to “No Boundaries” that is! But LLWD was able to fill some of those requirements as well.

    62. Plus Lee+piano always works for me.

      There’s a piano hidden under there?

    63. Ok…… The song is ok, but.

      I really dont like how his voice sounds on this. There is some definite processing going on in the chorus especially that I’m hearing. It just sounds really weird, to me. I’m not the biggest fan of his voice, but I think less processing on the voice is better for him. His voice doesnt seem well suited to the processing that a lot of pop songs have. It sounds a lot better on smoother vocals and not so much on ones with a more grittier texture to them, which he has.

      After the first chorus, I think I pretty much tuned out most of the words until it got to the sweet serendipity part again in the next chorus. I see some comparing it to LLWD, but I actually like that song, haha. This one seems even more wordy.

    64. I do seeing it getting to Top 20 with a push and RCA will push it.

      ITA. And I think it will do very well on HAC. Also I can see the Mraz references. It has that whole talk sing kinda going on during the chorus.

    65. How does this not sound like Lee? I heard several instances of his vocal tone. It’s a little more pop than I anticipated from him but that’s what’ll get played on the radio. I was more “meh” about it at first, but I kind of love it now. It just takes some getting used to. I think it could do well. But I will enjoy him making up words to this song like he did with “Treat Her Like a Lady” on tour…. never the same words. lol

    66. Well, I love it, Ryan loves it, and it definately sounds current. Lee’s voice sounds great. I was hoping he would start out with an upbeat song!

      Can’t go by what Ryan says, he always says he loves it. It reminds me, a lot of, LLWD. So, if the PDs add it and play it, it will probably make Top 20. And, yes, RCA will do a good job of pushing it. Plus, he’s with 19, so he’ll get the push from them as well.

    67. So Lee finally got a traditional Idol Coronation Song!

      Funny!

      Won’t he be expected to sing his first single on whatever television appearances he has coming up? I just can’t imagine Lee singing this live.

    68. This sounds like something that would have reached the Top 20, like, 5 years ago. It just doesn’t sound modern to me. The mid-tempo singer-songwriter stuff has reached critical mass.

      I have no idea how it will do on radio. If the label spends enough money it’ll be a “hit”. If not, I don’t see it just organically taking off. But what do I know.

      Hehe, since when does Idol let anything happen organically? I predict we’ll be hearing much more of this song than anybody would have ever otherwise wanted to.

    69. I wonder if RCA did that on purpose, are they trying to capitalize on the audience that Kris found with LLWD.

      Maybe they are just trying to capitalize on what the typical AI watcher would prefer? Or people that like talk-singing? Hard to say.

    70. I get the comparison to LLWD, but LLWD was also insanely catchy with a super strong hook. This song? Not so much.

      I wish him the best of luck, though.

    71. I think it’s kind of cute, and it does recall LLWD in the way the song is structured. I could definitely see this getting a chance on radio for sure. Lee will just have to work it out for live performances as Kris did with LLWD. Lee does seem to get a little more nervous in live performances than Kris did so it will be interesting to see how they rework it to make it easier to sing. I’m sure they’ll figure it out.

    72. I love Lee but I’m a little underwhelmed. It’s too overproduced for my taste, it’s nothing like his previous work. I don’t really hear blues or folk, it’s pretty poppy to me. But I guess a song like this may get him more radio play and name recognition so it’s okay, I’ll live with it. However if the whole album sounds like this, I’ll be way way way disappointed.

    73. onenineeight:
      10/13/2010 at 12:10 pm
      I love Lee but I’m a little underwhelmed. It’s too overproduced for my taste, it’s nothing like his previous work. I don’t really hear blues or folk, it’s pretty poppy to me. But I guess a song like this may get him more radio play and name recognition so it’s okay, I’ll live with it. However if the whole album sounds like this, I’ll be way way way disappointed.

      Don’t worry just yet. This is why I’m a huge proponent distinct of radio tracks and album tracks. For me a whole album doesn’t have to sound the same other wise its boring. Variety is the spice of life. :)

    74. negativo:
      10/13/2010 at 11:54 am
      Ugh…a worst case scenario. Almost sounds Justin Bieberish. Shallow, forgettable, mindless, overproduced, Pop 40 junk.

      Everything it needs to be a hit! :)

    75. I think they need to get 1 song out there that was more pop, and this is it. From the reviews of the other 4 songs, they didn’t sound pop at all.

    76. The chorus is awkwardly rushed and doesn’t sound like Lee.

      This was the same thought I had. It makes a little hard to understand the words. I liked it better on second listen, but still not sure about it overall. Maybe it will grow on me.

    77. Maybe they are just trying to capitalize on what the typical AI watcher would prefer? Or people that like talk-singing? Hard to say.

      It wasn’t the typical idol watchers who bought over 1.5 million copies of LLWD. Based on what PDs have said, and the popularity of the song among teens and young adults, LLWD’s popularity went beyond the middle aged female, HAC listening crowd. i think the top 10 peak on pop speaks to that.

    78. onenineeight:
      10/13/2010 at 12:10 pm

      I love Lee but I’m a little underwhelmed. It’s too overproduced for my taste, it’s nothing like his previous work. I don’t really hear blues or folk, it’s pretty poppy to me. But I guess a song like this may get him more radio play and name recognition so it’s okay, I’ll live with it. However if the whole album sounds like this, I’ll be way way way disappointed.

      I was expecting all devoted Lee fans to share your honest opinion, since this is so NOT Lee. Chances that Lee co-wrote this and/or even likes it, are imo very slim. He´s just going along with whatever he´s being told to do, say and sing…imo

    79. Comparisons to Dave Matthews are beyond stretching.

      I listened again, and it really is a mess of a production. Was it a rush job, quickly finishing up a song that wasn’t ready yet? The chorus, which should be the big hooky punch, is the worst, with overprocessed vocals and seemingly speeded up. Maybe they were going for a sanitized Mike Posner sound. Whatever target they were shooting for, I think they missed it. I was open to purchasing Lee’s music, but this is not anything I would want to listen to again. But hey, I don’t think I’m really the audience they were shooting for. It will be interesting to hear if this clicks with the masses.

      I just hope whoever at the label thought this mess sounded good keeps their mitts off of Dave Cook.

    80. Well that wasn’t what I was expecting. It’s very popy and the vocal effects make it not sound like Lee at all. Which is probably a good thing. It does sound very Script like to me as well.

      I think it could be successful, I mean, who can tell, but I could see it doing well.

    81. All it needs is a rap break in the middle (just like all those simple sappy JB songs) and it could really go far.

    82. ITA with everyone about the LLWD vibe of the song. So I guess it’s a good sign for Lee since it worked out well for Kris.

      The problems are similar too, it doesn’t sound like anything Lee did on the show and I guess they produced it that way to get top 40 airplay instead of just HAC. I’m also looking forward to see him attempt to sing it live, I remember Kris struggling with the song for some time last year.

      It all depends on the way RCA pushes this song, I wonder if the fact that AI is no longer linked to sony will impact the way they promote their AI alumnis.

    83. It wasn’t the typical idol watchers who bought over 1.5 million copies of LLWD. Based on what PDs have said, and the popularity of the song among teens and young adults, LLWD’s popularity went beyond the middle aged female, HAC listening crowd. i think the top 10 peak on pop speaks to that.

      Hence the reason why I said.. “talk-sing” both LLWD and SS utilize this style, though SS to a lesser extent. Its a popular style right now in CHR, despite being around for a long time. Personally I don’t much care for the comparisons between LLWD & SS. You can’t replicate a launch of a song. Just because LLWD was successful doesn’t mean SS will be any more or less successful. Different song, different launch date, different label, different strategies.

    84. I just hope whoever at the label thought this mess sounded good keeps their mitts off of Dave Cook.

      I was just wondering what this song could mean for Cook. I think even most Lee fans would agree that this song is not his style, but that it is a song that could do well on radio. Many people have noticed that Lee’s style of music, and his singing voice are similar to David’s, and that both lean more to the rock side of pop/rock, but this song is all Pop.

      Most of the reviews of the other four songs have compared them to something that Mraz, Mayer, or even Cook or Daughtry might do, so who knows if PDs will see through this song for what it is, meaning an attempt to get Lee played on pop radio, or if they will be fine with it, and not let it stop them from playing this or the songs that actually showcase Lee’s style of music. And, will Cook also take this approach, and release a more pop heavy first single or album. I can’t picture David’s voice on a song like this, it will have to be more altered than Lee’s.

    85. I sorta hate it, and I like his voice. I admit I don’t like much mainstream pop (besides a couple of guilty pleasures.. Nelly Furtado!), but regardless this doesn’t fit him. Absolutely nothing stands out.

    86. saga:
      10/13/2010 at 12:26 pm
      Do we know who wrote the song? Lee? Someone else?

      To me it sounds like a computer program wrote it.

    87. It all depends on the way RCA pushes this song, I wonder if the fact that AI is no longer linked to sony will impact the way they promote their AI alumnis.

      The artists still signed with 19M will get pushed and Lee is. For the others, who aren’t,I might be worried

    88. Just cannot imagine Lee, with his hound dog look and his lanquid body movements being able to sing this song live without it being slightly absurd. I don’t feel like this song fits his personality (or his non-existant personality as the case may be. I would work well for someone who is a bit bouncy and overly enthusiastic. But for Lee…nada. But peeps who like a bit of a “juvenile” pop sound…this may be the song for them. Check back with ya all in 3 months.

    89. It once again looks like they were going for the specific pop sound even if doesn’t fit the artist. Performing this one live will be a challenge for Lee, but I’m sure he’ll think of a way to do it.

      Yeah I think he’ll work it out live. Kris can do LLWD live fine.

      Overall I liked the song and thought it was catchy. I do agree there are too many lyrics in the chorus. I have a feeling this will be a song I’ll like better live than on the album, much like how I like a lot of Cook’s live versions better.

    90. It’s poppy, and not exactly Lee’s pre-idol style, but it’s pleasant, lively and his vocals are good.
      I hope that the rest of the album is more folk rock style, but if a poppish single is what it takes to be heard, then so be it.

    91. I was just wondering what this song could mean for Cook.
      … both lean more to the rock side of pop/rock, but this song is all Pop.

      Lee was never as rock as Cook. I don’t think you’ll catch him around an electric guitar anytime soon. So this means nothing for Cook besides having less competition from his fellow idols, cause I bet my paycheck he will NOT be trying to be the next Mraz on his upcoming album.

    92. My snap opionion:
      Its cute and it definitely sounds reminiscent of LLWD. If you never heard of Lee before, I don’t think you’d turn it off or anything. I don’t know how it will do but I don’t think it will totally flop. It should at least do well on HAC. I’m curious what the video will be like. Its way different from the vibe I expected from Lee… this sounds all happy and bouncy and sunshine-y, and Lee seemed all about the moody bluesy rock before. Interesting.

    93. who knows if PDs will see through this song for what it is, meaning an attempt to get Lee played on pop radio, or if they will be fine with it,

      I don’t think PDs much care about motivations. If they think a song will be a hit, they’ll play it. Lee isn’t the first artist to pop up his sound on a few album cuts for radio consumption. That’s been going on for as long as artists have been making records.

      I’m not surprised by the sound of this record at all. Other than the fact that song is a bit wordy, it doesn’t really remind me of LLWD. Lee will learn to sing it live, just like Kris did. I don’t see that as a problem at all.

      If RCA pushes the song, I think it could do well.

    94. I enjoyed Sweet Serendipity a lot,looking forward to buying the single!! No its not like his pre-idol cd’s from the reviews of the other 4 songs, I get the feeling this is just one sound on the cd!!

    95. Biced…

      Nah, RCA probably thinks they’ve hit pay dirt with this track. How could they not? They got the “formula” just right! *rolls eyes*

    96. As a huge Cook fan who firmly believes he needs a huge hit to reconnect with the public, frankly I don’t care if RCA chooses to go a more pop route with him. I know a lot of fans want a more rock sound but IMO a rock song won’t get any traction.

    97. Koshka: I do hope that this song is the only one on the album that sounds like this heh. Judging from the other song reviews, that may even be the case:) But on the flipside, I don’t think any of the songs that sound like his pre-idol work will play on radio so I guess this has to be done. Well I’ll still buy it and I do hope it becomes a hit :)

      ETA: I wouldn’t worry about Lee singing this live. He’s magic at switching songs up. He’ll be more than fine.

    98. I disagree with some of the comments that the production is a mess. There’s definitely a fair amount of it, but besides a weird lingering note about 2/3-3/4 of the way through the song, the production sounds pretty tight and well put-together, to my ears.

      I’m a big fan of Lee’s, and I want him to do as well on the radio as possible. If RCA/19 think that this song is the best chance to get him spins, then I’m all for it. However, I’m worried that if there is a second single, there may be more pressure for it to be fluffy pop-rock in a similar vein, simply because it will make it easier for listeners to follow the artist from one song to the next. And, no offense to the song, because it is fun and catchy, but I really don’t want every one of his singles to sound like this.

    99. Too bad it has to be such a sin to appeal to “the typical idolwatcher”. I understand that CHR is where the big hits come from, but to me this feels like forcing a square peg into a round hole. CHR is not where a singer like Lee would naturally find success. But going straight HAC or AAA apparently isn’t “acceptable” to the label.

      I really like One Eskimo. Their last single went to number one on AAA. Probably didn’t sell for shit, lol. Lee would sound good on something like this.
      Hope this works, I suck at links.

    100. Lee was never as rock as Cook. I don’t think you’ll catch him around an electric guitar anytime soon. So this means nothing for Cook besides having less competition from his fellow idols, cause I bet my paycheck he will NOT be trying to be the next Mraz on his upcoming album.

      I wasn’t talking about what it means for Cook in terms of competition, I’m talking about RCA making David release songs that are more pop friendly. David’s songs are too dark for me, but I think they fit him, a lot better than Sweet Serendipity or LLWD would. I think the track records of David’s co-writers indicates that RCA wants him to have a more top 40 sound.

    101. I think even most Lee fans would agree that this song is not his style

      I don’t think that is true, maybe other fans will have to speak up to agree or disagree. I’d say maybe the more pop side and production may be unexpected for fans but the style to me falls in line with his pre Idol work and the description of the other four songs on the record. I also disagree with any comparisons to David Cook. Maybe to those who took the Idol perception at face value but Lee has said in many interviews that he is not “the rocker”.

    102. On singing it live, it will help if they can have his band with him from the get-go. The initial lulzy performances of LLWD were before Torres or anyone was there to do some of the words. Just for fun, looking back over the flailing and fretting on first single debut days from Seasons 7 and 8…the more things change…anyway best of luck to Lee.

    103. I don’t particularly like the song because radio pop isn’t my thing, but I do think it’s a good pop song and could do well at radio. And in the end, that’s what Lee needs.

      It does remind me of LLWD in one sense – I instantly knew that song would be a hit and I had the same reaction to this one.

      The problem for the musician Idols is that songs like this immediately remove any chance they had of credibility with serious music fans – but serious music fans wouldn’t buy their first record anyway, so the label is in a Catch 22.

    104. That was fun!! Would love to hear Lee on the radio than most of the trash out there. I hope it catches on!

    105. Oh my! Not what I was expecting from Lee at all! Bouncy, wordy, and not sounding like Lee (in parts) are what struck me the most on first listen. Reminded me of LLWD, too. But I liked it more on the second listen, so I think it will grow on me. Yeah, it’s overproduced, but what are you gonna do?

      Lee may have to slow this down to perform it live. The chorus is a mouthful!

    106. Lee and Cookie aren’t really alike outside the Idol thing… post-Idol Cook didn’t have this Mrazy vibe. If this sounds like anyone it’s Kris.

      I do think RCA wants Cook to do a pop version of himself for his next album but I would expect it to be a different brand of pop rock.

      In any case, this thread is about Lee. And this, while not an exact match to his pre-Idol stuff to me, at least represents the pop version of that kind of style IMO.

    107. I recall Lee saying that his fan’s would be surprised at this album. As Lee has stated, like 9 million times, his record is going to be a combination of pop, folky and rock. Nothing wrong with pleasing the Program Directors at the pop stations..he needs to get his name out there. Let’s face it, the PD’s want to please the advertisers, so they need songs that peeps will listen to and not change the station, and “Sweet Serendipity” is the kind of song getting radio play on pop stations today, bouncy, dance worthy.

    108. I’d say maybe the more pop side and production may be unexpected for fans but the style to me falls in line with his pre Idol work and the description of the other four songs on the record.

      I don’t think this song fits the description of the other four songs. A couple of the reviewers even made comparisons between those songs and songs released by Cook and Daughtry, SS doesn’t sound like anything that either of those guys would release. SS is a lot more poppy than any of the descriptions that I read, and doesn’t sound like anything that Mayer or Mraz would release. It has the playfulness of some of Mraz’s songs, but not the earthy quality, and even his more playful songs aren’t this over produced.

    109. but serious music fans wouldn’t buy their first record anyway

      With a potential audience of 20 million (35 at the peak), it stands to reason that some people who have bought AI albums were also regular show attendees, regular album buyers, and regular music magazine readers. Some of those people post here, in fact. So unless “serious music fans” are people who won’t buy anything without Pitchfork’s say-so, I think the point has already been disproven.

    110. If this is the only CD´s “pop” song, people liking it will be disappointed if they check out the CD, while people who would like the CD, won´t check it out thinking it´s pop…

    111. Do we know who wrote the song? Lee? Someone else?

      I bet someone else. First because it doesn’t really sound like a Lee song to me. Though I’m hardly an expert about Lee, so could be totally off-base on that. But most importantly, because that’s how the AI machine rolls.

      And okay probably totally random, but now I have “Had A Bad Day,” stuck in my head after listening to this song. Thanks a lot Lee!

    112. first gut reaction, without reading anyones comments- kinda catchy- think it will get some radio airplay- but really sad that they used autotune/processor on his voice. People voted for him because of his voice, right? Imperfect as it is.

    113. Huh? So much for the rocker edge. This was way too pop for what I thought this would be.

    114. Anyone who knows Lee’s pre Idol work, am I crazy to think that this song reminds a bit of Sweet Sweet? It is not at all the same song but perhaps similar style? Lee has done a more upbeat/funky song before. What I really like most about Lee is the dark and angsty vibe but I also love contrasts and this song does show off his more fun side.

    115. I wasn’t talking about what it means for Cook in terms of competition, I’m talking about RCA making David release songs that are more pop friendly. David’s songs are too dark for me, but I think they fit him, a lot better than Sweet Serendipity or LLWD would. I think the track records of David’s co-writers indicates that RCA wants him to have a more top 40 sound.

      I didn’t have to listen to SS to realize that RCA wants Cook to release music that’s more popular. Rock is not popular right now as it is not charting well on top40. Even Daughtry is releasing ballads in hopes to score a hit. Personally I wouldn’t want Cook to compromise his sound, even if it means RCA drops him. Scoring a hit with music you don’t believe in will not get you the loyal audience that is the key to longevity (magic rainbows anyone?)

    116. With all this talk about concessions to get a pop hit, I really don’t hear it on this song. To me, it sounds like a mid-level pop song at best, and a possible HAC hit. Dance worthy? Not today’s sound.

    117. A couple of the reviewers even made comparisons between those songs and songs released by Cook and Daughtry, SS doesn’t sound like anything that either of those guys would release.

      I know what you mean, but it was just one song the Cook/Daughtry comparison was made and that was on an arena rock type chorus. They said the song began like Snow Patrol which doesn’t really remind me of the other two artists mentioned. But then again none of us know until we hear the songs.

      I see the point you are getting at about having to put out a more pop lead single and I agree, it is food for thought for any artist. But my point just is Lee never said he was going to put out a commercial modern rock album either.

    118. To me it sounds like a computer program wrote it.

      Sounds like a computer program singing it too. Or maybe it’s Lee after inhaling helium and speeding it up some, kinda like the Chipmunk Movie.

    119. It’s a song and style that’s chosen to increase chances for a radio hit, but I agree it does not seem or sound like the Lee on AI. It’s autotuned Lee at a higher speed. I’m having trouble imagining him bopping along during live performances — but I’m sure he’ll figure it out. Same as with Kris and Cook, they’re picking hard-to-sing-live songs for their debut singles.

      But it is catchy — I won’t buy it but I would not turn off the radio either.

    120. I don’t love the song but it not horrible either. The beat is catchy and I found my head bopping along. I couldn’t really understand all the words (I don’t really like that when a singer sings and I can’t understand what they are saying) I do see a similarity to LLWD but for me Kris was clearer in the enunciation. I think LLWD was a better song. I also think the song does have a Script vibe. I think the song will go top 20 maybe to 15. I also agree with those who say its generic. I agree I don’t think its a song that stands out but then again a lot of songs sound a like and don’t stand out and do well on top 40. “Live it Up” I think that song was closer to Lee according to all the previews by the critics. This song doesn’t feel like a song Lee would sing normally. Just my opinion. I do wish him well with it and hope it does well enough that he gets a second single and then releases Live It up!

    121. Wow. This doesn’t even sound like Lee. The song is moving at 100mph. How are people supposed to sing along with it? So far
      Slumberland and So I’m Told >>>> Sweet Serendipity. Plus I hate the word serendipity. Ugh. I’m so frustrated.

    122. unidentified:
      10/13/2010 at 1:02 pm
      To me it sounds like a computer program wrote it.

      Sounds like a computer program singing it too. Or maybe it’s Lee after inhaling helium and speeding it up some, kinda like the Chipmunk Movie.

      Sounds like it to me as well. Ugh. Just not liking it. It kind reminds me of LLWD – but I think LLWD is way better, warmer, catchier.

    123. I do see a similarity to LLWD but for me Kris was clearer in the annunciation.

      I don’t mean to poke fun, dhunken, but that is the best. typo. ever.

      I guess some Allen fans do think he’s an angel. Hee.

    124. Ok, I can’t stop listening to this song. Well done, Lee! Sweet sweet indeed!

    125. The beginning sounds exactly like The Script’s “Breakeven”.

      Not what I expected from Lee at all but I think it will at least do well on HAC.

    126. I am listening to the song on the tinny little speakers on my computer at work, and I know I’m not hearing the whole song….but I just don’t see how this doesn’t sound like Lee. I hear him strongly throughout the whole thing.

      I’m not very surprised by the song at all. he’s told us for weeks that it will be a pop-folk-rock kind of CD. this is definitely more poppy than my taste runs, but I expected it to be. The thing that does surprise me is that I like it immediately. That’s very rare for me, especially for an Idol product.

    127. ok in my head sweet serendipity is playin over and over but to the tune of LLWD ack

      sweet serendipity .. live like we’re dying sweet serendipity live like we’re dying sweet we are dying gettin all mixed up lol

    128. I don’t mean to poke fun, dhunken, but that is the best. typo. ever.

      I guess some Allen fans do think he’s an angel. Hee.

      Oops See what you get for typing too fast….. :oops: I don’t think he is an angel but he is angelic. :lol: Thanks for catching my error.

    129. I didn’t like it much the first time, too poppy for my taste. But it’s growing on me, loving the chorus now. Catchy. I hope it does well on radio.

      And I’m not worried about how he’ll sing this live. If he forgets or trips on the words, he’ll just invent something and we probably won’t notice, lol!

    130. I’m loving this song more every time I play it. I love Lee’s voice and the way he sounds on this song.
      This wasn’t one of the songs in the album preview: it’s looking like
      the album will have several different kinds of songs, each with a different sound unlike an album with a single producer.I’m glad about that-I like variety, not albums where the songs are hard to distinguish from one another.
      I never thought the music of DC, Kris or Lee had much in common,except of course, the guitars :) Journalists who lump them together probably don’t know much about any of their music and are too lazy to spend 10 minutes on youtube to research them.
      As for that kind of electronic vibe folks are shocked by- y’all must not listen to much pop radio-I listened to Ryan’s show this morning and all the songs had that, only a lot more so.

    131. The more I listen to this song the more I love it. If you were on the fence about it at first, listen to it a few more times!

      And also, it does sound like Lee IMO. Additionally, they needed to use a popish song like this as the first single. Lee needs a radio hit to generate buzz for his album. I don’t expect the rest of his album to be like this, though like I said I do love this!

    132. Lee and Cookie aren’t really alike outside the Idol thing… post-Idol Cook didn’t have this Mrazy vibe. If this sounds like anyone it’s Kris.

      This is exactly what I thought, this could be a Kris song. I don’t know, it isn’t bad but it does not seem to have enough of a hook for Pop radio. This is going to need a lot of promotion to get airplay.

    133. I cannot fathom Lee listening to this song if he didn’t record it. Nobody over 16 will buy this fluff. He was probably more true to himself on the show than on his album.

    134. sr4mjc:
      10/13/2010 at 1:21 pm

      Has Live it Up leaked dhunken?

      Oh I am just messing up all over the place I meant to say based on what all the critics have said about the song. No I haven’t heard it I only read all the reviews on it. Had trouble sleeping last night not having a good day as you can tell. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I have corrected it. :oops:

    135. Man! Just read the lyrics. Way too wordy, IMO. LLWD was was wordy but it had a much catchier melody. Sorry, Lee’s voice doesn’t do much for me but I hope this does well. I am hoping for something better from Crystal. Does anyone have any idea when she will have her first single out?

    136. Comparisons to Dave Matthews are beyond stretching

      Lol. Lee’s voice has definitely reminded me a lot of Dave Matthew’s voice. And his voice as also reminded me of Adam Duritz of “The Counting Crows” and John Mayer at times, (on his earlier pre-idol stuff). I could see David Matthews singing something like this.

      IMO this song doesn’t sound like anything Danny or David Cook would sing. Neither one of them sound or remind me of Dave Matthews like Lee does. And I don’t think it’s really something that sounds like Kris would do either. Though I can understand people saying it’s “wordy” like LLWD was.

    137. Aside from being wordy, I’m not understanding the LLWD similarities people are seeing here. And I do think that Lee’s enunciation isn’t as clear as it could be.

      Not sure what to think of this. I thought both LLWD and WWFM had hit potential when they were released by Kris and Adam, respectively. I don’t have nearly as clear a vision with this.

    138. i seriously dont believe that dave matthews would ever sing something so POPPY ugh

      as for lee.. i can hear dave matthews influence in his pre idol songs…. but second rate dmb sound … the world doesnt need another Dave Matthews we have the original and that is sufficient cuz there can and only will ever be ONE DMB!!

      he should be known for Lee Dewyze songs not compared to others and this song just does not do it. imho wish him the best with it .. and waitin to hear what else is on the album

    139. Also IMO, this song doesn’t sound like anything Danny or David Cook would sing.

      Sounds more like something David Archuletta would sing.

    140. I like it, pretty catchy and I think it has a lot of potential with the tween market, which is key for a hit nowadays. I personally don’t see the LLWD comparison, I still think that was a god awful song, but hey different strokes. What this song instantly reminded me of not in tone of voice or anything like that, just the beat or melody or however you wanna say it, is the song that David Archuleta did with Miley Cyrus on Hannah Montana. That could also just be because of all the Oh Oh’s in it though.

      Anywhoo I think this may be a hit which AI desperately needs from one of it’s winners, that is, other than Carrie or Kelly. Good first single for Lee, IMO. Bottom line for me, last years winner set the success bar pretty low, so it shouldn’t be too hard for Lee at the very least to be considered a successful AI winner, if not just a successful recording artist in general.

    141. The single has a nice catchy tune so it sounds good to me. :) His vocals here remind me of someone though (Darius Rucker in his Hootie days? Hm)…

      I wonder if the originally-intended debut single sounds something similar to this. The last-minute changeup’s kinda intriguing

    142. Anywhoo I think this may be a hit which AI desperately needs from one of it’s winners, that is, other than Carrie or Kelly. Good first single for Lee, IMO. Bottom line for me, last years winner set the success bar pretty low, so it shouldn’t be too hard for Lee at the very least to be considered a successful AI winner, if not just a successful recording artist in general.

      Are you discounting LLWD as a hit from a winner then?

    143. As for that kind of electronic vibe folks are shocked by- y’all must not listen to much pop radio-I listened to Ryan’s show this morning and all the songs had that, only a lot more so.

      Just because it is used, over-used, and somewhat abused doesn’t mean every singer has to jump on the bandwagon. I think we have heard enough singers lately accoustasize their over-produced album songs to know this sound is pretty faddish and doesn’t produce the best representation of someone’s voice. Hopefully this sound will pass and we can get back to hearing real voices and real instruments…but I’m not holding my breath.

    144. Just cannot imagine Lee, with his hound dog look and his lanquid body movements being able to sing this song live without it being slightly absurd. I don’t feel like this song fits his personality

      You hit the nail on the head Tess. The song it cute and catchy, but I don’t know if it matches Lee’s vibe.

    145. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I have corrected it. :oops:

      No worries, thought you might have been holding out on us ;)

    146. Cheesy pop confection. It’s something you’d hear on Radio Disney around 2000.

      I agree with the earlier comment: it sounds more Archuleta then DeWyze. The thing is, there’s no range to the song so Archie would be wasted on it. It strikes me as album filler, not lead single material but I’m outside the coveted demo of young and female.

    147. I wonder if RCA did that on purpose, are they trying to capitalize on the audience that Kris found with LLWD.

      Yup, its what I said yesterday about Live it Up, before I even heard the song ;)

    148. Speaking of sounding like someone else, I was just hoping for Lee to sound like Lee, not some chipmunk version of him. I think they’ve got his voice unmessed with maybe 10-20% of the time. The rest is pure automatonic little furry animal Lee.

    149. Thus doesn’t sound tweeny at all to me. Very adult soft rock pop. Like you expect to see a video with a guy walking down a city street singing while strumming a guitar, and pretty girls smile at him. Then he ends up at a street festival where he meets up with another pretty girl while grandmas eat cotton candy and kids ride the ferris wheel. Then it fades out and the Vh1 countdown guy says “that was your new number 1 video”. Like that. :D

    150. Sounds like someone said — here’s a song that has that The Script-Jason Mraz vibe — it will be a hit. Worked for Kris Allen.

      Does not remind me of Cook or Daughtry at all. It does remind me of The Script more than anything else out there.

      And if it sells as much as LLWD or Breakeven — both well above Platinum, I will be both surprised and impressed.

      mickeybordentwo:
      10/13/2010 at 12:29 pm

      To me it sounds like a computer program wrote it.

      A formulaic pop song with not one original element or thought involved. Might has well been written by a computer.

      But Idol + RCA/Jive does not equal creativity or innovation very often.

      But who wrote it? It is not in the ASCAP database yet.

      The single has a nice catchy tune so it sounds good to me. :) His vocals here remind me of someone though (Darius Rucker in his Hootie days? Hm)…

      Hm……not at all like Darius.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aVHLL5egRY

    151. Cheesy pop confection. It’s something you’d hear on Radio Disney around 2000.

      Yup. Why does it sound old to me? Maybe because it’s formulaic. This kind of song was novel the better part of a decade ago. Like old Train or Gavin DeGraw.

    152. Are you discounting LLWD as a hit from a winner then?

      No, but at least in my area, LLWD didn’t get a shit ton of plays on the hit radio stations. I only ever heard it on the soft rock stations or in the super market before it faded off into oblivion. Carrie and Kelly get plays on the major hit stations and that’s what AI needs from Lee. I’m not saying that Lee’s single won’t end up the same as LLWD, but with SS I can see it being played on the hit stations rather than almost exclusively on soft rock stations. I’m in no way trying to say that getting airplay on a soft rock station is bad, it’s just not good demographic wise when you want a younger audience to connect with your music.

    153. I didn’t like it: lightweight Script (and I do really like them, but they’re hardly heavy weight to start with).

      Plus it doesn’t doesn’t fit with the way I saw Lee’s music from hearing pre-Idol snippets.

      But then, what’s new there!?

    154. I just want to be strong
      at the end of the road
      I don’t want to hold on I want the strength to let go

      Gah. As a writer, this kind of lyric drives me crazy. It doesn’t even mean anything! It’s like someone put words into a computer and set it to ‘pop song.’

      Not to be pedantic, but the word serendipity implies an active participant in good events, an aptitude for making desirable discoveries by accident. So serendipity does *not* watch over anyone.

    155. Justin8602- the stations in your area are not the only ones that exist. LLWD went top 10 on pop. It would be great to Lee if his single will do even close to this.

    156. Sorry, I wanted to like it but I’m not impressed. The word “cheesy” comes to mind.

    157. The more I listen to it, the more I’m convinced Lee is the lovechild of ALEX Lambert and DANNY Gokey.

    158. Not all formulas are winning formulas. Sounding like other songs is no guarantee of success.

      If a computer writes a song and a computer mostly sings it, who gets the royalties? And where is the humanity, the human voice?

      Personally, I can’t wait for the day when the masses groan at yet another auto-tuned voice. It was fine as a novelty, but when it is the norm, its just lazy.

    159. I think it is a pleasant song. I can see it doing well on HAC. To me, it sounds like Counting Crows. If there was a Shrek 5, it could make that soundtrack. I have always thought Lee looks a little bit like Adam Duritz (except for the hair).

    160. at least in my area, LLWD didn’t get a shit ton of plays on the hit radio stations. I only ever heard it on the soft rock stations or in the super market before it faded off into oblivion.

      Really? LLWD won’t die around my neck of the woods. I’ve been hearing it incesantly for a year straight. Then again, I live in a more sparsely popularted area that isn’t too big on being hip or fresh. Lots of Colbie Caillat, Nickleback, John Mayer, that Jason Mraz “I’m Yours” song almost daily. This gives me a sinking feeling I’ll be hearing this Lee Dewyze song for years to come. Yikes.

    161. Bottom line for me, last years winner set the success bar pretty low, so it shouldn’t be too hard for Lee at the very least to be considered a successful AI winner, if not just a successful recording artist in general.

      LLWD sold over 1.5 million, Lee should be so lucky to do as well with this song, as Kris did with LLWD.

      I think this song has a reasonable shot at success. It’s not earwormy to me, and I think it’s a generic pop song, but generic pop songs can also do just fine. So we’ll see. I must to admit, I don’t see Lee singing this, like at all. It so doesn’t seem like his pre-AI stuff, or his AI persona either. Needs more bagpipes.

      But yeah, I do think song is definitely crafted to appeal to the pop market, and yeah, I can see the trying to appeal to tweens with this, as part of that.

    162. I didn’t love it the first time but by the third listen it really grew on me. I like how positive and upbeat it is! :)

    163. Just cannot imagine Lee, with his hound dog look and his lanquid body movements being able to sing this song live without it being slightly absurd. I don’t feel like this song fits his personality (or his non-existant personality as the case may be. I would work well for someone who is a bit bouncy and overly enthusiastic. But for Lee…nada. But peeps who like a bit of a “juvenile” pop sound…this may be the song for them. Check back with ya all in 3 months.

      I don’t always agree with you, but you are spot on with this. As I was listening I was trying to imagine him singing this song and I.just.couldn’t.

      I do however think it’s not bad. For whatever it’s worth. I have no knack for picking hit singles. I am still imagining him out of breath, doubled over, looking for an asthma inhaler after trying to catch up with those wordy words. LMAO!

    164. I would work well for someone who is a bit bouncy and overly enthusiastic.

      Oh, maybe this is why Windmills said it could be a song Danny sings, :lol: Otherwise, like Jx223, didn’t see the comparison- waaay too poppy.

      But, honestly, many young radio listeners don’t know Lee’s personality or style of music. I guess you can’t blame them for trying to get one that sells and plays.

      As a Danny fan, I know that songs that get positive critical review don’t always get the most radio airplay. And for this song- maybe the opposite will be true.

      I don’t like over produced pop radio either, but young kids-singles buyers do.

      I did, however, like LLWD (the best off KATA) and didn’t think that that song was overproduced for the type it was.

      Good Luck Lee!

    165. After several listens, I definitely don’t find this song to be very earwormy, certainly not compared to LLWD. That song was IMMEDIATELY stuck in my head. And the dang wordiness of this one is still bugging me. Lee wasn’t likely to win me over anyways, but yeah, that’s my take on it.

    166. And speaking of style, I have to say I’m a little confused as to who Lee is as an artist, and how he’s being marketed. IDK – but this sounds very much like trying to create a song for him that will be a hit, rather than creating a strong image that will resonate with an audience, make him stand out and make him memorable. I guess they’re going the “everyman, guy next store who made it big” storyline, but they’re gonna have to make it stick harder than they are right now for it to really work. JMO.

      Otherwise, I see him being too lost in the shuffle of other similar sounding singers on HAC nowadays, without enough of a distinct personality or hook to stand out.

    167. at least in my area, LLWD didn’t get a shit ton of plays on the hit radio stations. I only ever heard it on the soft rock stations or in the super market before it faded off into oblivion.

      Really? LLWD won’t die around my neck of the woods. I’ve been hearing it incesantly for a year straight.

      I still hear it around my area, too. Heard it Sunday on my drive to a nearby casino and again at the casino. At this point, I’m starting to think LLWD is one of those songs that might NEVER completely fade away. LOL

    168. Lee Dewyze should have an unplugged special. I like hearing real voices and real instruments.

    169. It’s not a bad song…I wouldn’t change the station, but I also wouldn’t request it. I really came to love LLWD, and I can kind of see where they were going for something similar, but they just didn’t succeed. This song does not equate with my impression of Lee at all, and I can’t see him bopping around the stage singing it and putting on the kind of live performance Kris does. Kris does come across as someone fun and young and fresh, so LLWD worked for him. If Lee can pull that off, the song could do fairly well.

      I do wish him luck. AI has given me so many hours of fun and entertainment, that I’m always glad to see even those who weren’t my favorites do well.

    170. There must be a lot of people who do like, listen to, and purchase so-called generic pop. Just not the people who post in this thread, eh?

    171. Wow, the lyrics to “No Boundaries” read like Shakespeare compared to this sweet serendipity doo doo

      I’m almost willing to bet that some Swedish hitmakers have a hand in this song. The non-sensical phrases seem to be their trademark (not to say all Swedes make no sense (after all, IKEA is Swedish for common sense). Just the hitmakers they export to North America).

      But, when talking pop-songs, lyrics don’t matter half as much as a killer hook.

    172. I have to say I’m a little confused as to who Lee is as an artist, and how he’s being marketed.

      We’re going to have to hear the album to know where they are going. Not all of them stick with their Idol (or pre-Idol) persona, so Lee might end up doing a whole album in this vein. Who knows.

    173. lyrics don’t matter half as much as a killer hook.

      And that’s the biggest problem. Every time I try to remember this one, I start getting it mixed up with Pinch Me.

    174. I’m almost willing to bet that some Swedish hitmakers have a hand in this song. The non-sensical phrases seem to be their trademark (not to say all Swedes make no sense (after all, IKEA is Swedish for common sense). Just the hitmakers they export to North America).

      You may have something there. Hey Soul Sister was written by Espionage, the same duo that worked with Lee. Now that song has some stupid lyrics.

    175. Katelyn Epperly’s soulful, simple, topless, Youtube performance of “Accidental Love” was a hell of a lot better than this bubble gum shit Lee just rolled out.

      Hey 19, no we got nothing in common. No we can’t talk at all…

    176. I hate the word serendipity and I really dislike this song. Not even close to what I thought he would put out.

    177. Can’t say I care much for this or that it stucks in my head. It’s bouncy and that’s fun, I guess. But to me it doesn’t have the hook of LLWD.
      And he sounds so nasal. Maybe I’m just not used to his recorded voice, but I wasn’t expecting so nasal, kinda reminds me of Counting Crows.

      Well, it’s an ok song. Nothing I won’t be adding to my ipod though.

      And serendipity continues to be my most hated english word.

    178. I like Lee’s voice here. But, boy, I feel as if I wasn’t even watching the show he was on last year because this song doesn’t sound like what I thought his style was at *all.* Feels pretty generic to me, too. Could catch on, though, given the bounciness of it all, I think.

    179. The song may get radio play I believe and the more I listen to it the more I love it. BUT something is telling me Lee did not get to co write on this song. I’m afraid he is getting screwed there not having a co write as his first single. It just does not sound like a song Lee would have a hand in writing. SS is not dreamy, sleepy or angsty in anyway. I do still hear Lee’s voice but not the hard edged vocals we have come to know his voice to be. SS has a totally different sound, alot more pop and produced, than we are used to hearing in his songs. Well, Lee said there would be some surprises and this is definitely one of those surprises. SS is a really, really wordy song but he can work out performing it live like he always does. I am really hoping when Lee said the album is a mix of pop, rock and folk that he meant it. The pop side shown in SS is another side of Lee we have not really seen til now and it’s a nice change but I hope he did not lose what we have come to love about him and his voice on this album.

    180. Yuck. And I am someone who likes a lot of Lee’s pre-Idol stuff. This is fluffy and rushed and just doesn’t sound like Lee at all to me. I don’t know what they were going for here.

      This should do well on HAC if RCA works it right. I could also see SOME CHR stations picking it up.

      I will still check out Lee’s album. Certainly there will be other songs I will like much better.

      LOL, I just have to echo Weese above, I HATE the word serendipity and when you add sweet, it makes it 10X worse!

    181. You may have something there. Hey Soul Sister was written by Espionage, the same duo that worked with Lee. Now that song has some stupid lyrics.

      Oh Snap. They wrote Cookie’s “Come Back To Me” too. This is the song the Cook fandom mocked relentlessly for the lyrics, especially the “wind in my hair” line which was deemed particularly insipid.

      I seriously think we may have our winner. LOL

    182. ’m almost willing to bet that some Swedish hitmakers have a hand in this song. The non-sensical phrases seem to be their trademark

      The lyrics makes perfect sense to me, not sure why it would seem non-sensical to others. Bit of the lyrics strangely reminds me of Tubthumping by Chumbawamba, actually I think they should have done the bridge like the chorus in Tubthumping. The bridge is the weakest part of Lee’s song I think, sounds messy, should have done it simpler (I wonder if they can still fix that?). Otherwise not a bad effort, could do well.

    183. I don’t know whether its a good thing or bad thing the non fans are talking about this more than the fans heh. Interest is interest ha! RCA tweeted its going on sale 10/26.

      If he didn’t write it I don’t see how he’s getting screwed especially if it gets airplay. Did Kris get screwed even though LLWD was huge?

    184. Well Lynsday said this song and LIU has the same vibe of each other.maybe they thought this one has more of a chance on radio then LIU.I really like SS,I love LLWD more but that is just because I love the message that LLWD has.And it’s more better Lyric wise.I really hope this song does well for Lee.And I’ll buy his first album.I think I’D really like it.

    185. The song may get radio play I believe and the more I listen to it the more I love it. BUT something is telling me Lee did not get to co write on this song.

      Lee would have mentioned it to Ryan if he had a co-write. The Swedish hitmaker theory sounds about right to me.

    186. No, but at least in my area, LLWD didn’t get a shit ton of plays on the hit radio stations. I only ever heard it on the soft rock stations or in the super market before it faded off into oblivion.

      This is odd, since LLWD was out for more than six months before it peaked on any chart, and was in the top 40 (pop) for 20 weeks. It wasn’t played in your area, but it was played enough to make the top 10 on the pop chart and top 5 on HAC. So, I think 19 views it as being as much of a hit as anything that Carrie and Kelly released, and they probably feel the same way about Jordin’s top 20 hits.

      I think RCA thought enough of LLWD success that they blatantly copied the style, and the style of several other Kipner and Frampton songs.

    187. Sweet Serendipity is trending on Twitter in the US-shows the power of radio-or that a lot of people listen to Ryan’s show.

      Lee did work with Espionage on part of his album.

    188. I think RCA thought enough of LLWD success that they blatantly copied the style, and the style of several other Kipner and Frampton songs.

      This is a stretch for me… and I don’t even care for LLWD. If SS is copying LLWD… we can certainly name half a dozen other artists that LLWD copies. Nothing is original when it comes to pop & everyone is copying everyone else to a certain extent. Music evolves. If artists want to do things their own way then they should look to an indie label to do that. Thats not what Lee did or any of the idols for that matter, so this is the result. Its not good or bad, it just is what it is.

    189. mj: Lee would have mentioned it to Ryan if he had a co-write. The Swedish hitmaker theory sounds about right to me.

      That’s what I thought too. I’m probably reading too much into what Lee said/didn’t say but I felt like he didn’t have a lot to say as to why they went with SS instead of LIU. Maybe it’s just because it was early in the morning for Lee. I’m too used to assuming label shenanigans too lol.

    190. Oh Snap. They wrote Cookie’s “Come Back To Me” too. This is the song the Cook fandom mocked relentlessly for the lyrics, especially the “wind in my hair” line which was deemed particularly insipid.

      But the “wind in my hair” line came from Zac Malloy, didn’t it? Maybe we should be checking his ASCAP listings? LOL!

    191. That’s what I thought too. I’m probably reading too much into what Lee said/didn’t say but I felt like he didn’t have a lot to say as to why they went with SS instead of LIU. Maybe it’s just because it was early in the morning for Lee. I’m too used to assuming label shenanigans too lol.

      It’s the same trick they use for David Cook’s single.

    192. Does the 10/26 date seem a little far off since they’re streaming the song live now? That is a regular Tuesday release date; I wonder if we’ll see a last-minute switch like we did with LLWD when it was suddenly released for sale on a Friday with not much notice.

      I’m interested to see if they send this to HAC & Pop at the same time as they did with LLWD, or to one or the other first.

    193. I haven’t heard it yet, but y’all have certainly got me salivating! My usual eagerness to get home in the evening will be magnified tonight.

      My favorite album of the last ten years is “Welcome Interstate Managers” by Fountains of Wayne. The tracks on that thing are all over the place–it’s completely schizo. And I play it more than any other single album in my collection. So if Lee’s got some pop on his album, that’s ok. As long as there’s also stuff that showcases the things that make his voice so damned interesting, I’m happy.

      And re: “Soul Sister”… Train rode those stupid lyrics to a pretty sweet payday.

    194. This is a stretch for me… and I don’t even care for LLWD. If SS is copying LLWD… we can certainly name half a dozen other artists that LLWD copies.

      I think I was just going off on the laughable notion that LLWD wasn’t a hit. But, yes, this song does share the same style that LLWD, Geek in the Pink, and a lot of other current popular midtempo pop/rock songs have. And like one reviewer said, that’s not necessarily a bad thing, that style has been proven to work and be popular, so why not copy it. That’s not a knock against Lee or anyone else, since the point is to produce music that PDs will play, and that people will buy.

    195. This song has radio hit potential. There is always one quirky upbeat song on the charts that radio stations use a change of pace song. This song fits that spot on the play list. I don’t see any other song that does the same thing. I can see it rise to Top 20 and drop quickly off when the next quirky/upbeat song catches the attention of program directors.

      So it isn’t necessarily that the song is good or bad, but it fills a certain spot on the play list.

    196. If he didn’t write it I don’t see how he’s getting screwed especially if it gets airplay. Did Kris get screwed even though LLWD was huge?

      I did say I love the song and that it may get airtime.Hopefully is will sell well too. My point was that Live It Up is a co write that was going to be the first single. Now with SS I highly doubt he co wrote on it. Having a co write, imo, would be a huge thing for a singer/songwriter new major label artist like Lee to show people that side of him too, his writing capabilities. That’s all I was saying. Lee, even though he would not say, if he did not get to help write SS he has to be a little disappointed that LIU was not released instead.

    197. yeah, I agree that if he had a co-write it would have been mentioned.

      I think they tried to go the LLWD route, but I don’t think this is as memorable and catchy. The hook of LLWD was much better. It’s like FYE and SBL, songs made for pop radio but that lack a hook that stays on your head.
      If DJs were responding to this better, good that RCA changed.

      No one really expected it..Ryan said this morning he didnt hear it yet so the Mraz/Mayer thing was about Live It Up.

      To me it’s like RCA sent this memo that his songs would have a Mraz/Mayer vibe and reviewers went with it. Reminds me of when Cook’s songs were being reviewed before the album was out and there were mentions of U2 and Fooo Fighters. And seriously, much as I love David and I like his album, there’s nothing U2 oe Foo Fighters there.
      Mayer and Mraz aren’t this poppy and are more guitar driven, especially Mayer. I just don’t hear the Mraz/Mayer.

    198. Sounds like Danny Gokey to me…and that is not a good thing in my opinion….my question is….where did the real Lee go? I never have been a big fan but he sounded a lot better than this on the show and what I have heard since the show.

    199. 10/26 doesn’t seem far off. RCA may want to get the song a little more exposure/airplay before putting up for sale which isn’t a bad idea.

      Based on what Lindsey said this song was completed like last week and RCA/19 loved it so much once they heard it they wanted it for the first single.

    200. First, people need to step off my Serendipity. It rocks as a word, a concept and children’s book. Though it doesn’t make a great floor wax.

      My point was that Live It Up is a co write that was going to be the first single. Now with SS I highly doubt he co wrote on it

      But not having a co-write on his first single, just makes him like most AIers with their first single. So I don’t see Lee getting screwed here. I mean I get that his fans would like it if he had a co-written song for his first single. But maybe that song didn’t get great responses from the PDs. So better not to have a co-written song as a first one, that doesn’t do well.

    201. The Tampa station replays Ryan’s show and they did not play the whole song. They played an intro of Ryan saying ‘Here’s a few seconds of Lee’s new song Sweet Serendipity’ played a few seconds and then went on with parts of the interview. The whole thing was about 2 minutes total.

    202. haven’t posted in a while, but feel like I need to add my 2 cents… I feel sorry for Lee and his fans (including me!). This is the most generic, souless, bubble gum, pop-overdrive sounding single from an idol yet. I’m beyond dissappointed.

    203. I bet Toby Gad and Lindy Robbins aren’t too thrilled about now. They must not of had a deal locked in, even with the press release. I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall during that phone call!

    204. Late to weigh in this…but the song is okay. I really like the opening imagery with the jeans and the bit about him always landing on his feet. Unfortunately, I think that’s the strongest part. The music/production doesn’t do justice to the lyrics. It feels like they’re trying to push the happy peppy feel too far instead of taking a break during the chorus and giving it a more honest feel. Whoever said it was a sweedish hitmaker type song has it right. And while I’m good with the lyrics, the song could benefit from a more relaxed sound during the chorus and something different during bridge. The pace/rhythm is just a bit too unrelenting.

      That said, I think it has a really good shot at doing well on radio. Repeated listens might help people get over that pushed/peppy feel and be able to relax into the song.

    205. Based on what Lindsey said this song was completed like last week and RCA/19 loved it so much once they heard it they wanted it for the first single.

      Right, and it was Kara DioGuardi’s decision to leave American Idol. Sounds like a spin job to me.

    206. Since the majority of the responses here range from ‘tolerable’ to ‘yuck’, it makes me wonder what audience responded so favorably to the song that they would bump another song last minute. Also, if Live it Up has such a similar vibe, why would TPTB swap it out for a song with as cumbersome a title as Sweet Serendipity?

      ETA: Historically speaking, is this single the most auto-tuned for an Idol yet? I think it might be.

    207. But the “wind in my hair” line came from Zac Malloy, didn’t it? Maybe we should be checking his ASCAP listings? LOL!

      DAMN that Zack! LOL!!!

      I really was only kidding with that remark. I have no idea who wrote it. :D

      For me, bottom line… it is a song that should work on HAC and to some degree, Pop, generic or not. So it sounds like a win. If his album has more songs like this, and it seems like it might, then this will give him a good shot at selling the album, laying a foundation at radio, and at building a music career. Good luck to him.

    208. I’m guessing whoever did write this tweeny-boy song would sooner be tortured by Jack Bauer than admit it publicly. It’s career killing bad.

    209. So, now we know about RCA and S9, bring on Jive :)

      It’s definitely better than any Bieber song I have heard, I give the writers that.

    210. Include me as someone that thinks this song should be up on iTunes now. I would buy it, but by 10/26 I might be over it. I like upbeat poppy catchy songs to listen to when I run and this would fit the bill.

      I say this as a VERY casual american idol “watcher” – in fact I hated Lee on idol and have never actually watched an episode on TV (only clips online I cannot stand shows with filler).

      In this day, where people steal files it seems ridiculous to wait that long to me. In a couple weeks the file will be everywhere. Add to that, people like me who will no longer be as interested in the song. Now they could capitalize on people who have only heard it once and want to hear more or people that buy it out of sheer curiosity.

      PS-first post on MJs blog ever!

    211. Just a few more thoughts: I actually like how poppy and upbeat it is. I don’t need 70 songs that sound the same, so I love hearing different sides of Lee’s voice. Although, I can live without the way they layered the chorus. I want to hear LEE, not some dude singing over him.

      And I’m not worried about him performing the song live. All he has to do is slow it down and throw out some of the needless words. It’s not rocket science, he’ll figure it out.

      Lastly, as far as his album he said word for word “There’s a whole array of different sounds and different kinds of songs” so I doubt we’ll get 10 songs that sound exactly like this. We still have Only Dreaming, which IMO represents him pretty well.

    212. Strangely enough, this reminds me of the week Lee sang that Owl City song on Idol….

    213. I was just reading through the archived comments from the day Kris was at Z100 & LLWD was premiered on air as well as when it was first released to iTunes; it seems the more negative comments are posted, the better the song will do, lol. Lee fans should not despair about negative comments – they seem to be a good predictor of success!

      I still like the song, I think it has a good chance.

    214. Include me as someone that thinks this song should be up on iTunes now. I would buy it, but by 10/26 I might be over it. I like upbeat poppy catchy songs to listen to when I run and this would fit the bill.

      Labels usually wait two weeks after they release a song to radio before they make it available for purchase. Right now, only idol fans know about the song, so it’s not a big deal. Anyone who wants to download it illegally would do that even if it was up on itunes.

    215. I was JUST going to say I planned on going back and looking at some of the comments for Adam/Kris’ singles this time last year LOL.

      Since the majority of the responses here range from ‘tolerable’ to ‘yuck’, it makes me wonder what audience responded so favorably to the song that they would bump another song last minute.

      I strongly suspect any testing RCA did were PD’s, DJ’s whoever who simply want to play what will fit their playlist. Its hard to gauge much reaction on a AI blog where people range from those who hate Lee, love Lee, have pre-conceived ideas of what Lee should sound like. FWIW I took a look at the thread on this at Pulse and some are meh on it, some really like it.

    216. I’m not an LDW fan, but I found all the comments and critiques interesting; the poppy electronic feel of overlapping tracks that isn’t like his prior work, to those familiar with it, the crowded lyrics that don’t convey a cohesive meaning related to the word ‘serendipity’, the lack of breathing space in the tempo for live singing, the by-the-numbers formulaic approach, and the hope that this will become a Pop hit to propel album sales if it hits enough of the present pop vibes.

      I chuckle at the idea of RCA wanting this so badly – but forgetting to notify their own PR people before the Press Release for “Live It Up” went out, and shake my head at their literal last minute marketing research – and with all that I certainly wish LDW well with this…taste is subjective, and I know nothing of Pop music.

      But the biggest puzzlement is how they actually managed electronically to make Lee sound younger in vibe and throwaway carefree attitude on this song than David Archuleta’s new album does….because something is wrong with that picture.

      IMO. Of Course.

    217. Good luck Lee. You are going to need it with this song. I don’t like the song title Sweet Serendipity?? Not a very catchy song. I do like Lee but not this song.

    218. I mean I get that his fans would like it if he had a co-written song for his first single. But maybe that song didn’t get great responses from the PDs. So better not to have a co-written song as a first one, that doesn’t do well.

      Yeah, I get that. Who knows how LIU would have done really though, maybe we’ll find out later. It just seems like a slap in the face to give him a co write as a first single then take it away. Fingers crossed that SS is a hit. SS is showing a whole other side of Lee and I’m gonna embrace it but I for one am hoping this cd is all over the place showing all that Lee is and can do with his voice and music.

    219. Well, I like the song. It’s a sweet little diddy. Is it special enough to be a big hit? Depends on promotion, if they don’t promote it enough, it’ll go nowhere. SO let’s hope for Lee’s sake that they are throwing everything they got behind it.
      Will I go out and buy it? No, not really there are way to many out there with a similar sound. I am saving my money for the special stuff, the ones that grab me…even if they a are stupid :) (guilty pleasures)

    220. Historically speaking, is this single the most auto-tuned for an Idol yet? I think it might be.

      The autotune is just sooo noticeable in much of the song. I honestly haven’t been into Lee (I like Casey’s voice much more), but I do think Lee’s voice sounds better without the additional auto-tune.

    221. I think it has a good chance.

      Eileen, you are probably right because I don’t like it and formulaic pop songs I hate (like all Katy Perry songs) do great.

      So it will probably be a huge hit.

    222. NVM. Bottom line, I like the song. Plenty of other people do or it wouldn’t have been trending on twitter.

    223. It’s got a good beat and you can dance to it. (throwback to teens rating music on American Bandstand)

      I think it’s catchy and should get airplay. It does resemble ‘Live Like We’re Dying’ in overall feel. Lee will have to figure out how to make it work live, just as Kris did.

      Good luck to Lee.

    224. Not a huge Lee fan or anything, but I’ve got to say that I do rather like this ditty. It’s catchy, upbeat, airy and I can see my kids and I singing along to this in the car (or tring to – it’s damn fast). Is it sacrilege to say that I like it better than LLWD?

      Say what you will about his performance skills on AI, but dude has a great, radio friendly voice (even if it is with the assistance of mucho autotune).

    225. Awful song. Not a fan of Lee’s but thought I would give it a shot – sometimes off the AI stage they get better but nope. Maybe some of the other songs off his CD will be better.

    226. I have question for those more familiar with the way radio and their PD’s work. Can an artist build “cred” with PDs? I.e., if they have one song that has done well on the radio, will PDs be more likely to give subsequent singles a fair shake?

    227. Elliegrll:
      10/13/2010 at 4:44 pm
      Labels usually wait two weeks after they release a song to radio before they make it available for purchase. Right now, only idol fans know about the song, so it’s not a big deal. Anyone who wants to download it illegally would do that even if it was up on itunes.

      If it was up on iTunes more people would know about it, and it isn’t just idol people that heard it on Ryan’s radio show.

      I’m already over the song. Won’t be buying it. I know I’m not the only one like this. If I can’t buy it immediately after hearing it I’ll stream it a few times and if it doesn’t have a lasting effect on me I end up over it.

      My comment was more geared towards the idea that maybe they shouldn’t wait so long to release (for anyone) after a premiere. And yes so long in 2010 is 2 weeks. Everyone knows the music business is changing and immediacy is the name of the game. Premiere it and make it immediately available for purchase.

    228. From jim on twitter,jambajim jim cantiello
      ListeningTo#sweetserenditpity OMGtherearesomanylyricsOMGOMG. ItslikeLiveLikeWereDyingX86400Words.Ha ha.His saying the same things.LOL

    229. Lee said his album would surprise people and I am surprised. I knew RCA would want a pop sound for Lee’s first single but this is way more pop than I ever expected from Lee. I don’t think he co-wrote and I don’t think this would have been his single choice. That said, it is a really good pop song, very upbeat with feel good lyrics (maybe Lee did write some of the lyrics)and I think it will be a hit! I love the “Sweet, sweet, sweet” he’s singing at the end – a throwback to Slumberland’s “Sweet Sweet”? The way he sings the last “Sweet Serendipity” line is the best part of the song. They should have featured that kind of vocal more. There’s lots of positive buzz on twitter and elsewhere so it’s lookin’ good. Why are they waiting to until 10/26 to release it????

    230. I like Lee’s recording voice and I like the production and the chorus.
      But there are way too many words. This will be a bitch to do live and the beginnning where he talks about his jeans stretching out made me laugh. Lee is kinda chubby.

      Anyway, it’s a cute song. I think LLWD is better but I may slightly prefer Lee’s vocals. No way am I going to predict how this will do on the radio. It’s not like anything they play on Pop currently but kind of has a Colbie Caillet vibe.

    231. NVM. Bottom line, I like the song. Plenty of other people do or it wouldn’t have been trending on twitter.

      Something doesn’t have to be “liked” to trend on Twitter. Just mentioned.

    232. Even though I said I wouldn’t predict, I don’t think this will happen.

      it will probably be a huge hit.

      At best I think a modest hit.

    233. I was just reading through the archived comments from the day Kris was at Z100 & LLWD was premiered on air as well as when it was first released to iTunes; it seems the more negative comments are posted, the better the song will do, lol.

      In which case Kris’ The Truth should have been a huge hit. The collective meltdown of his fans to that song is still one of the most amazing things I have read in this blog.

      The response to Lee’s song is actually not bad at all. You have the usual stuff – fans who love anything their idol puts out, fans who are disappointed that it doesn’t sound like how they think their idol should sound, non-fans coming to rubbish it willy-nilly, some casual readers like it, some don’t. I think the response to David Cook’s Light On was probably worse, I don’t think there were many fans who liked it.

    234. Something doesn’t have to be “liked” to trend on Twitter. Just mentioned.

      Isn’t that the truth. Ask Brett Favre, lol.

      I haven’t seen it trend yet on my Twitter feed. Must have been pretty brief. But it is difficult to trend things if you are trying so at least it was there, someone was talking about it.

    235. The autotune is just so noticeable in much of the song.

      They are doing that on purpose. You are supposed to notice. All the songs Ryan played in the hour before Lee’s debut have that electronic sound-they brought guys all the way from Sweden to New York to make it sound like that.
      Anyone who’d rather hear Lee strumming his acoustic guitar and singing au naturel should try his AP vids or his preidol albums, Slumberland and So I’m Told.Wuli Records has said they never used autotune with him.I love his preIdol recordings, but they wouldn’t get him any pop radio play.

    236. The more times I listen, the more I am loving Sweet Serendipity! :)

    237. cheesy pop, but no hook…so what’s the idea?

      i can see the script comparisons with the talk-sing, but the script’s sound is more mature, whereas this is sort of disney fluff? which is such a strange direction for lee.

      it’ll be interesting to see how hard rca pushes this and how radio will receive this song.

    238. I have question for those more familiar with the way radio and their PD’s work. Can an artist build “cred” with PDs? I.e., if they have one song that has done well on the radio, will PDs be more likely to give subsequent singles a fair shake?

      Yes, if your have a hit PD’s are more likely to play your next song. But there is no “fairness” in US Pop Radio. There is the brutal reality of monthly ratings and generating ad $ and promo deals.

      SS will get a least some airplay because Lee won Idol. That is almost a guarantee. The only question is will it be a big hit like LLWD or WWFM, or will it be a modest hit. But it will sell at some level.

      ETA: Sweet Serendipity trend was shallow (0.03% peak) and very brief – centered on Ryan’s playing the song. @LeeDewyze trended at the same time (0.06% peak), mostly in the same tweets.

    239. hm…I like it!! Lee’s got a cool vibe going on and he’s got a great recording voice…I hope he does well. I def think the song has potential on AC but who knows…its up to the record label to promote it and hopefully ppl will request it. I might just buy his CD if I like the rest of the songs…I think he’s got a good tone and his voice/style is heartfelt.
      and yeah it does remind me a lot of the Scripts “Break Even” but I actually like Lee’s song better because its not as repetitive…or maybe I just got tired of that song cuz the radio over-played it LOL either way both are good songs. I hope he is at least given a chance.

    240. SS will get a least some airplay because Lee won Idol.

      That begs the question: has there ever been an Idol winner lead single that didn’t get any airplay at all anywhere? All I can think of is Taylor with “Just To Be That Way”. I guess you are right, they’ve all had at least modest hits. Interesting.

      Oh. another interesting thought… all the people who had airplay number 1s and/or smashes on that first album (Kelly, Fanny, Carrie, Jordin) have went on to have big hits in subsequent albums. The others (Taylor, Rueben) not so much. Cookie and Kris… all eyes are on you!

    241. Wow, I do like it- I love his voice and although it is different than I expected- it is now stuck in my head- wish I could buy it now.

    242. ETA: Sweet Serendipity trend was shallow (0.03% peak) and very brief – centered on Ryan’s playing the song. @LeeDewyze trended at the same time (0.06% peak), mostly in the same tweets.

      Thanks for the info.

    243. That begs the question: has there ever been an Idol winner lead single that didn’t get any airplay at all anywhere? All I can think of is Taylor with “Just To Be That Way”. I guess you are right, they’ve all had at least modest hits. Interesting.

      Taylor didn’t have a lead album single and so hard to compare. “Do I Make You Proud” was #1 BBoard Hot 100 and #1 Pop airplay — IMO Taylor could/should have made it — and that failure is the biggest screw-up in 19R history. Taylor’s first album single, JTBTW was released on February 5, 2007, nearly two months after Taylor’s album was released. As I recalled it got AC airplay and not much else. And it was too late at that point.

      But Lee will get airplay and have a shot at a big hit. JMHO I hope there is something more like Lee than this on his album.

    244. Why are they waiting to until 10/26 to release it????

      Sometimes they hold off on releasing singles for sale until it builds up in airplay so that it can get a higher Hot 100 debut (which combines sales and airplay). I’m not sure in Lee’s case it is going to make a huge bit of difference but I’d rather see the song go on sale at a planned juncture than just throwing out there at the end of the week.

    245. I have question for those more familiar with the way radio and their PD’s work. Can an artist build “cred” with PDs? I.e., if they have one song that has done well on the radio, will PDs be more likely to give subsequent singles a fair shake?

      That’s the way it works. You need a hit or two before they automatically add a new song.

      I love the new song. I’ll admit I’m a bit surprised at the tempo – it’s a little bouncier than I expected – but I like it.

    246. IMO Taylor could/should have made it — and that failure is the biggest screw-up in 19R history.

      I don’t think that was a screw-up. Apparently, Taylor was “difficult”, and that’s what he got for being difficult.

    247. I really don’t care for LLWD, but I love Sweet Serendipity. To me, they’re really not similar besides the fact that they both have a lot of words.

    248. Paulie:
      10/13/2010 at 1:40 pm
      The single has a nice catchy tune so it sounds good to me. His vocals here remind me of someone though (Darius Rucker in his Hootie days? Hm)

      Darius Rucker? Lol…you’ve got to be kidding. Far far from that sort of style – I saw Hootie and the Blowfish in concert and he sang Amazing Grace a capella partway into the concert. His voice at times went almost operatic, it was so rich and full, and soulful. Not saying that Lee doesn’t have a soulful vibe at times but it’s definitely not in this song.

      Eriko:
      10/13/2010 at 12:50 pm
      If this is the only CD´s “pop” song, people liking it will be disappointed if they check out the CD, while people who would like the CD, won´t check it out thinking it´s pop…

      This about sums it up. Although from the sounds of it I think it’s not the only pop song – sounds like Live it Up is very similar.

    249. and yeah it does remind me a lot of the Scripts “Break Even” but I actually like Lee’s song better because its not as repetitive…or maybe I just got tired of that song cuz the radio over-played it LOL

      and yeah it does remind me a lot of the Scripts “Break Even” but I actually like Lee’s song better because its not as repetitive…or maybe I just got tired of that song cuz the radio over-played it LOL

      Its funny on both counts I have the opposite view- I love breakeven – dont find it repetitive at all but I do find this Sweet Serendipity song repetetive- JMHO!!

      I do agree that I don’t think this SS is the same as LLWD apart from many words but I love LLWD [ & so did many others] & think SS is okay. Remains to be seen how it goes. It does annoy me though that they had to autotune Lee’s voice . It was the recordings of Lee on AI that were his strong point -without much tweeking . Is Lee now going to have to use this autotune now when doing live performances? Not a positive move- but again JMHO!

    250. I didn’t read comments before listening – then I clicked play and about 5 seconds in I wondered if somehow files got mixed up and this wasn’t really Lee. Then his voice came in and my jaw dropped. I’m sorry, but WTF? I haven’t liked Lee all that much in the past, but I actually feel sorry for him now. Generic pop at its worst. Why do people who like him think it’s ok for him to make a song or two like this just to get radio play? You realize after his 2 week run on radio with a song like this (ok, I have no way to know it’ll actually be that short, but this isn’t anything distinctive), he’ll either need to follow it with another one of this sort, or fade away and struggle to ever get anyone to listen to anything with more of a rock sort of sound?

      I’ve said that I actually do like some artists similar to Lee and so I should maybe like some of his music. Well, this definitely isn’t in the vein I’d like at all. Blatantly obvious auto-tune = no no. Cheesy sounding beat, all sorts of vocal layering effects, and half of it isn’t even hardly singing, but as people have said, speak singing. Ugh. I would change the station…well, then again, I wouldn’t be listening to a station that’d play this so I wouldn’t even have to change it.

      Oh, and a couple radio format questions. What in the world is CHR? I’ve been trying to figure that out and I just can’t. And…how exactly does a song like Sweet Serendipity end up on HAC? Isn’t that “hot adult contemporary?” This doesn’t sound like adult anything – it sounds like what a car full of high school girls would have cranked up singing along to.

    251. Unless Lee sold his free new Ford we know the first line of this song is not true which makes the song not true to who the artist really is or going through.

    252. Would this really play on AC or HAC stations? It seems too juvenile to me.

      But wait, the firefly song played nonstop for months on my station so maybe yes.

    253. weese:
      10/13/2010 at 6:32 pm
      Would this really play on AC or HAC stations? It seems too juvenile to me.

      That’s what I was thinking. This sounds ready made for Kidz Bop.

    254. Unless Lee sold his free new Ford we know the first line of this song is not true which makes the song not true to who the artist really is or going through.

      But he explains why he was always hiking his pants up mid-song on the Idol stage – his jeans were weak at the seams!

    255. Well, I finally got to listen. It’s cute! I like it.

      Have to admit, some of you had me nervous. I was about to the point where I expected Justin Bieber (if I had any idea what he sounds like, that is). But it definitely sounds like Lee. I can even hear some cracks & creaks amidst the busyness.

      I suppose he’ll sing it live without autotune just like everyone else does. I also suppose he’ll get through the wordy parts live just like Kris did with LLWD. I suppose he’ll be just fine whether it’s a hit or not.

      From the reviewers’ comments about the other songs on the album that they’ve heard, there’s going to be plenty there to love for those fans who want the “pre-Idol” or even “during-Idol” Lee sound. And there’s plenty of room for this song too. C’mon, Nov 16!

      (Oh, and my vote is “Definitely not a co-write.” That’s the only part I’m bummed about.)

      jpfan:

      Lee is kinda chubby.

      Thanks for bringing some humor to a rather angsty thread! :)

    256. Lee’s official site has the song up, good quality, no watermarks.

      http://www.leedewyzeofficial.com/

      I’m listening to it on my good speakers at home, and it still sounds just like Lee’s voice to me. They have changed it in parts,those Swedish guys (lol) but his great, gruff natural voice is still right there. Love it.

    257. cheesy pop, but no hook…so what’s the idea?

      The lack of a strong or catchy hook might be the only thing that keeps this song from being a hit. LLWD was a grower, but it kept growing because of the insanely catchy chorus, in the case of this song, I think the melody and tempo are supposed to be the hook. Some PDs and DJs said they didn’t play FYE because it didn’t have a hook, so it will be interesting to see if they have the same problem with this song.

    258. I was just reading through the archived comments from the day Kris was at Z100 & LLWD was premiered on air as well as when it was first released to iTunes; it seems the more negative comments are posted, the better the song will do, lol.

      In which case Kris’ The Truth should have been a huge hit. The collective meltdown of his fans to that song is still one of the most amazing things I have read in this blog.

      Ah, but you kind of have to mentally filter the comments. Not every negative or positive is equal. Some fans LOVE everything their Idol does, so you can ignore them. Then there are fans of other idols that have to deride everything their arch enemy does. Ignore them too. Then there are the kum-bi-ya (how is that spelt anyway?) fans, who are all about loving everybody and everything. Ignore them (and set their granola on fire). Then, there are the cranks that hate everything. Ignore. Ignore. Ignore (and stay off their lawns if you know what’s good for you). You can also ignore people who claim to never listen to the radio because how would they even know what would be a hit on the radio? That will get rid of about 97% of your comments, right there.

      The fans you need to pay attention to are:
      – discriminating fans – fans who sometimes like and sometimes hate what their Idol does.
      – open fans of others – people who aren’t fans of Idol X but are willing to admit when they do a good job
      – people with no dog in the fight who do listen to the radio – they generally have no reason to be biased.

      Of course, how you decide which group to slot people into is your choice.

      I will say one thing…if the ardent fans hate a song, the song is unlikely to be a big hit. If it is a song only a mother can love and the mother doesn’t love it, that is not a good sign. Of course, there are exceptions.

      Oh, and MJ seems to be suprisingly good at picking winners. Sony should consult her more (there are a few others here, too, who are amazingly good but I’m not going to name posters and start a fight).

    259. Why do people who like him think it’s ok for him to make a song or two like this just to get radio play?

      I’m neither a fan nor a non-fan of Lee’s. Its ok because this is exactly what happens when you sign with a major label.. it happens for ALL of the artists. The labels want to make money and this is part of the bargain. I said it earlier. If he wanted to experiment with his sound, then he should have stayed with an indie label. He chose not to, so this is the result. Even singing over commercialize dreck is still probably better than selling paint. ;) I’m kinda ‘Meh’ about. It could go either way. Should do well on HAC.

      ETA: LOL Kirsten. two thumbs up.

    260. Mozart, I think your perspective on the “sell-out” nature of the song and its possible repercussions is valid. And, as a fan, I’m worried that Lee may be restricted to this type of song for his radio singles in the future. As to justifying “any song to get radio play”, I know you have a different view of the buzz surrounding the season, or at least the buzz surrounding certain contestants, but both idol pundits and long time idol followers who frequent the internet have constantly commented on the miniscule amount of buzz for this season. After following the numbers threads and the general buzz about the current state of the recording industry I would be absolutely shocked (but happy) if Lee did not open with the lowest amount of albums sold for an idol winner. I would venture that Lee’s viability as a major-label recording artist rests on his ability to get radio play. And let’s face it, RCA/19 want to sell records as much as his fans want him to sell records. They’re the ones with the focus groups and access to these “PDs” and whatnot. They’ve certainly made some weird single choices in the past, but with the stakes this high, I’m going to give them the benefit of the doubt.

      And I really, really hope cars of teenage girls love this song.

    261. Then there are the kum-bi-ya (how is that spelt anyway?)

      I think it’s kumbaya.

      Of course, how you decide which group to slot people into is your choice.

      *raises hand* I volunteer to be one of the ones telling people to get off my Idol’s lawn! Damn kids, and their other Idol ways.

    262. What were they thinking, it’s a awful song. It’s more Beiber or Archuleta then Lee. It’s a forgetable song just like Archie’s single Elevator. I hope Lee practice a lot before he attempts to sing this live, because he’s going to have a real doozy of a time getting all the words out.

    263. There was a song in the 70’s called Beach Baby. For some reason this song stikes me as the same type of song. Catchy tune that is fun to hear about once a year.

    264. Not rooting for or against Lee’s future success, he just didn’t appeal to me on the show, and neither does this song. But, it will probably do fine with the younger crowd.

    265. bridgette12 – LMFAO I love you, but you do realize that you just equated beiber to Archuleta. Archie is more like the every girl’s ‘friend’ and Beiber is the guy they sneak out at night to meet up with. :)

      What were they thinking, it’s a awful song. It’s more Beiber or Archuleta then Lee.

    266. Finally got a chance to listen…it has kind of a Jason Mraz-y vibe to me.

      I like it :)

    267. As to justifying “any song to get radio play”, I know you have a different view of the buzz surrounding the season, or at least the buzz surrounding certain contestants, but both idol pundits and long time idol followers who frequent the internet have constantly commented on the miniscule amount of buzz for this season. After following the numbers threads and the general buzz about the current state of the recording industry I would be absolutely shocked (but happy) if Lee did not open with the lowest amount of albums sold for an idol winner. I would venture that Lee’s viability as a major-label recording artist rests on his ability to get radio play.

      I don’t disagree with any of this – going by what there actually is out there (and not what some of us, myself included, think there might be for certain people), there don’t seem to be many people waiting with baited breath for what this season produces. I think this sort of single from Lee though doesn’t set him up for long term success – at best he might sell decently for a single or two and maybe it’ll translate to his first album selling moderately, but this seems like a format that just plain doesn’t work for him. If I were a Lee fan, my concern would be that singles like this will lead to the majority of people buying the single expecting his album to sound like this. When it doesn’t (which I’m assuming, maybe it in fact does), he’s going to disappoint a bunch of new fans he might have picked up with his first single (and possibly 2nd, if Live it Up is like this and becomes the 2nd single). That many people being disappointed by his album when they’d buy it would not bode well for him, even if his core fans at this point would like the album. At that point his label basically tells him “you go 100% pop or you fail.”

      Is that really the Lee people want to hear, or is this just the Lee they’ll listen to because they want to love everything that Lee does? I personally might have been partially converted to at least somewhat liking him if his post-Idol sound was a mix of Annabelle + Treat Her Like a Lady + Use Somebody (unplugged). I think he does that better and is more believable in that genre – no, he wouldn’t sell a ton, but will he this way either? Not to mention the shelf life of most pop artists isn’t very long, especially today, unless you’re one of the biggest names. Even at that we don’t know how much longer Bieber and Lady Gaga will really have success. Maybe years…maybe people will be over them by their next albums. I think his better shot at more long-term success was in more of the acoustic pop/rock vein, not with drum machines and auto-tune.

    268. Trina:
      10/13/2010 at 12:36 pm
      As a huge Cook fan who firmly believes he needs a huge hit to reconnect with the public, frankly I don’t care if RCA chooses to go a more pop route with him. I know a lot of fans want a more rock sound but IMO a rock song won’t get any traction.

      I think, though that he can have a pop hit and still be rock, or closer to rock, with the right song. Something like Use Somebody by KOL was a huge hit, still within rock, and I could see David Cook doing something like that.

      ETA: LOL, and I just realized that Lee does KOL too. But they are still very different in their original music, Lee’s music is much softer rock.

    269. bridgette12 – LMFAO I love you, but you do realize that you just equated beiber to Archuleta. Archie is more like the every girl’s ‘friend’ and Beiber is the guy they sneak out at night to meet up with.

      I am not comparing them as artist, but the comparison was the songs they have put out, which is teenage dreck.

    270. Mozart, I see your points on “long-term success”. But, 19 wants their AI artists to get as big as they can, as fast as they can. They want tangible benchmarks (gold records, platinum singles, etc.) that they can throw around come season 10 of AI. How much revenue did AI pull in last year? Wasn’t it something in the neighborhood of half a billion dollars? The ability of AI to produce legitimate stars (something it’s been struggling to do lately) is one of the main selling points of the show. Basically, Lee decided to go on the show, Lee won the show, and that major-label recording contract comes with expectations. Plus, the idol trifecta, Carrie/Kelly/Daughtry, have had long-term success, so I wouldn’t say 19 isn’t interested in that as well.

    271. I am not comparing them as artist, but the comparison was the songs they have put out, which is teenage dreck.

      Ok gotcha. You scared me for a moment. :)

    272. What was he supposed to do? Release a song that had no radio potential at all, have the song be heard by nobody and sell 0 copies of his album? Basing his sales solely on his Idol fanbase isn’t going to work with this season. They all need radio to drive sales. Releasing a song like “Annabelle” wasn’t going to played on the radio, nor would it suddenly gain him more fans.I love that side of Lee, it’s the kind of Lee that I hope most of his album is like, but to say that that kind of music is going to expand his fanbase is wrong, IMO. He, and the other 2 from this season as well, need a few commercial songs to be heard. I don’t see why trying to appeal to radio is a bad thing?

    273. I’m neither a fan nor a non-fan of Lee’s. Its ok because this is exactly what happens when you sign with a major label.. it happens for ALL of the artists. The labels want to make money and this is part of the bargain. I said it earlier. If he wanted to experiment with his sound, then he should have stayed with an indie label. He chose not to, so this is the result.

      Nodding in agreement.. RCA has put their chips in with S9. So Jive, whatcha planning with Crystal?

      ETA: Of course as the winner, indie label is not in the cards.

    274. Interesting. Maybe for teens, but it certainly wouldn’t inspire me to buy his album.

    275. Plus, the idol trifecta, Carrie/Kelly/Daughtry, have had long-term success, so I wouldn’t say 19 isn’t interested in that as well.

      I think they’re interested in long-term success if it happens, but I don’t think they’re really concerned about working towards it. Which is basically your point. So yeah, I’m sure he realized that he was making compromises going on the show. I just will never understand why these companies don’t realize that it’s in their best interest too to have people do what they do best. It shows in the end if someone isn’t doing what’s in their heart, or what they’re best at. I’m sure Lee is happy to just be doing what he’s doing now, but at some point as an artist I would think he’d be disappointed at what he’s given up to get there. It’ll show in the sound of his music and performances then.

      But yeah, at that point there’s any number of other people to come in and take his place, and they have no problem moving from one to the next. As long as they keep the $$$ coming in. Ahh, capitalism – using people to get you and your buddies where you want to be, and telling the public what they should like.

    276. I think they could have released a song that was true to what Lee was about and get solid HAC hits. He might have had minimal play on Top 40 but he would have established a sound that could sell decently. With this single, he went way off from who he is as an artist in attempts to chase that golden Pop ticket. I agree that it isn’t a good long-term strategy. This is such an unremarkable song as it is, that I don’t think its going to get them that ticket. Sure, it will be played some on Top 40 as all Idol winners are. But I would truly be shocked if it made in into the top 10 of that format. HAC? Maybe.

      I think the sorry state of Top 40 radio is no excuse to make equally sorry music to fit in. That’s a downward spiral if ever I heard of one.

    277. Hmm. Okay. Listened a second time and am revising my first opinion of “song’s okay” to: “I really like it”. I still like the imagery of the old jeans in the opening and the upbeat part of always landing on his feet. What seemed like an unrelenting poppy/hectic sound settles down on the second listen.

      To whomever compared this the Archie’s Elevator: I don’t see it. Yeah, they’re both pop tunes. But there’s something to this one that’s more mature. It’s like it’s got a little bit of that Jason Mraz sound embedded in the pop. If the label pushes it, I can see it doing really, really well.

    278. ^^^ @ movin2thabeet *Applauds* Thank you. I’m too wordy and sometimes still just can’t quite get the point out there. Lol.

    279. Weebs787, totally agree with everything you said. I love both of Lee’s pre-idol Cd’s but most of the folk rock songs would not get much radio play. If he wants to expand to a bigger audience, then putting out a more radio friendly song is the way to go. From what he has said, the album is made up of alot of different types of music folk, rock, bluesy, pop. I am really excited for the album!

    280. It’s like working for the man to pay off your house and build a retirement fund. I’d do it in a heartbeat. Radio is fickle anyway, make money now and then make the music you want later. Idol drops a gift in their lap, run with it when someone is still interested.

    281. I definitely get where you’re coming from Mozart (and Movin’). I guess we’ll see how things turn out.

    282. IMO, SS as a single could turn people off from checking out the CD, discredit Lee as a singer/songwriter and from being taken seriously from those I´d assume he´d like to target. So if SS flops, this attempt could cost him dearly and potentially ruin any hope for long term goals or ambitions.

      You can only make a first impression once! IMO, it should not be wasted on people who don´t like the “real” you.

      (I´m assuming SS doesn´t represent the CD as a whole)

    283. Do the Idols really have any choice but to go mainstream? Not a single Idol has been launched into one of the more niche formats on their debut post Idol records, and the exception of country being their own large mainstream genre. The major label, promo budget, name recognition and everything that comes with launching from Idol as a platform places the Idols in a mainstream trajectory. I like HAC as the loyal Idol friendly mainstream format with enough spins to sustain a career but with lead singles is the chance to go for CHR, I don’t fault them for trying, success on the two formats are not mutually exclusive. Sure I wish the labels would take more of a risk with the singles they choose but that isn’t just limited to Idols. I’d be surprised if Lee didn’t have some more interesting tracks on his album so I’m waiting to hold my judgment on how RCA influenced Lee’s sound and the overall product. As someone who is familiar with pre Idol Lee music I do think SS is indicative of his style but I am waiting for more of it to come out on the album. So I don’t think I’d call that selling out to pop radio for short term success, but I guess it is part of playing the game with the hand dealt.

    284. Luvadamlambert-I’m glad you like it.I take that as a very good sign for Lee.

    285. I also agree that trying to get your name out there on pop radio is not selling out. It’s trying to appeal to a larger audience with the hopes that they will check out your music. We’ve all hear Lee, Crystal, Casey etc. on the show, but some people do not watch idol, and its another avenue to get your name and music out there.

    286. As a Lee fan, I was not expecting this, but something more soulful/folk-rocky, along the lines of Mayer/Dave Matthews. This sounds very formulaic and gets mixed up in my head with LLWD, which it definitely resembles, but I think LLWD flows better and is a better song. This song is cheesy, overproduced, way too much autotune drowning out Lee’s soulful vocals, and sounds like everything else on HAC these days.

      This reminds me of a Kris Allen or even David Archuleta song, or something Danny Gokey would have been forced to record had he won and thereby not been allowed to go all soulful country (as a huge Danny fan, thank God he didn’t win). I loved Lee on Idol, and adore his pre Idol albums and wish his first single would have reflected that more introspective, darker, folky vibe he showed so well in The Boxer rather than this overproduced generic pop. That being said, as a fan I want Lee to be successful, and if recording a generic autotuned pop song is what it takes, then I’m all for it, as long as most of his album sounds like the Lee I’ve grown to know and love. He is too good for this song IMO.

      On the plus side, it is bouncy and I could see it being kinda addictive, and it also has a positive upbeat message. Kids will love it and it should do pretty well on radio. I might even start to really like it after a few listens–I really like LLWD and didn’t like that at first either. I’m keeping an open mind.

    287. I was by no means a Lee fan but I listened to this new single with an open mind an unbiased ear. I liked it at the beginning but where the words are sung really close together, it lost me. If I didn’t see the lyrics, I would have no idea what he was singing. The title, sweet serendipity (ok, how many of you looked up the definition) is just too old?? complicated?? Anyway, just ok from my point of view.

    288. Weebs787:
      What was he supposed to do? Release a song that had no radio potential at all, have the song be heard by nobody and sell 0 copies of his album? Basing his sales solely on his Idol fanbase isn’t going to work with this season. They all need radio to drive sales. Releasing a song like “Annabelle” wasn’t going to played on the radio, nor would it suddenly gain him more fans.I love that side of Lee, it’s the kind of Lee that I hope most of his album is like, but to say that that kind of music is going to expand his fanbase is wrong, IMO. He, and the other 2 from this season as well, need a few commercial songs to be heard. I don’t see why trying to appeal to radio is a bad thing?

      YES, i did just quote your entire post b/c you basically said everything i wanted to ;)

      Oh and again..i LOVE the song :)

    289. Humm… I really don’t like it.
      Maybe they know what they’re doing and think it is a potential hit for radio play. What do I know…. I don’t even listen to the radio.

      I’m not a Lee fan per say but I know that he’s a million times better than that based on his pre-idol Cds so I’m putting a big X on this song and I’m reserving judgement until his album is released.

    290. What was he supposed to do? Release a song that had no radio potential at all, have the song be heard by nobody and sell 0 copies of his album?

      IMO, he should have released a song which gave the listener some insight to what the CD as a whole and him as an artist is about. Are you saying that none of his music has the potential of being radio friendly? That the only way for “serious” musicians to get radio play, is to get some formula-song-writers to write for them, have it produced to the max and hoping the people who liked it, will also like the “real” stuff that the “bait” lured them to?

    291. Well its wasn’t horrible haha my mind wondered really fast though. Maybe listening to it more will change that..one thing I can say about LLWD even though I wasn’t a fan that damn song would get stuck in my head when it came on the radio haha

      When I first heard SS it made me think of Dave matthews and BNL in the sense that I could see this song coming out when they were huge. It does sound dated to me…

      Not quite sure where I fall on your list Kristen :D but can I have granola too

    292. I loved Lee on Idol, and adore his pre Idol albums and wish his first single would have reflected that more introspective, darker, folky vibe he showed so well in The Boxer rather than this overproduced generic pop. That being said, as a fan I want Lee to be successful, and if recording a generic autotuned pop song is what it takes, then I’m all for it, as long as most of his album sounds like the Lee I’ve grown to know and love.

      On the plus side, it is bouncy and I could see it being kinda addictive, and it also has a positive upbeat message. Kids will love it and it should do pretty well on radio. I might even start to really like it after a few listens. I’m keeping an open mind.

      I could have written this, so thank you for putting into words exactly what I was thinking. I kinda miss my “old” Lee, but then I’m old. And I’m definitely not in the demographic TPTB are shooting for. That’s OK, though. I’m sure there will be songs on the album that are more to my liking and I’m looking forward to Nov. 16. I am still a fan and will naturally support him in any way I can. In the meantime I’ll still be listening to his two pre-idol albums, So I’m Told and Slumberland, like I’ve been doing every day for the past 6 months! Oh, and all the other great mp3s I have of him.

    293. EWMichaelSlezak
      My review of Lee DeWyze’s debut single, ‘Sweet Serendipity’ http://bit.ly/SweetSerendipityLeeDeWyze

      I think he got it wrong with saying that it ” strikes the kind of fuzzily inspirational chord of an Idol victory anthem.” It’s something very different I think. It is in fact lacking in any ambition to inspire, it has just the sort of happy-go-lucky devil-may-care kind of mentality.

      I think although it is wordy, the lyrics actually works surprisingly well. I thought the word “sweet serendipity” would sound really awkward, but the way it turns out actually isn’t bad at all. (The title Sweet Serendipity brings to mind Sweet Charity and also “Lady Peaceful, Lady Happy” part of the lyrics of Maybe This Time from Cabaret) The lyrics sorta reminds me of Roger Miller’s King of the Road and Nina Simone’s Ain’t Got No, I Got Life, also as I said before Chumbawamba’s I Get Knocked Down, and dozens of other songs (it in fact reminds me of a lot of older pre-sixties songs). There is certain rhythm to the lyrics that makes it work, although partly because of the wordy lyrics, it did get a bit messy in part – it should be more rhythmical (also simpler rhythm) in the bridge and in some of the later parts.

    294. It’s like working for the man to pay off your house and build a retirement fund. I’d do it in a heartbeat. Radio is fickle anyway, make money now and then make the music you want later. Idol drops a gift in their lap, run with it when someone is still interested.

      This. They all do it. Chris and David’s CD’s weren’t ‘rock’ enough. Kelly’s first few CD’s weren’t what she wanted to do, etc. They all have to make some sacrifices to broaden their audience. Pay your dues and then make the kind of record you want to make later. (Which is something certain contestants from this season don’t seem to understand) Had he put out a copycat of “Slumberland” he wouldn’t have had any radio play, sold little, and then the people who only measure Idol’s successes based on what their predecessors accomplished would have deemed him a complete failure. I’m afraid Lee’s just ‘damned if you do, damned if you don’t’ with some.

    295. The song is alright some parts of it are quite catchy, but some parts sounds to fast for the melody. I dont know how much radio play it will really get, perhaps not that much, most popular male pop songs these days are much more r&b then pop. But it will properly do alright, somewhere in the middle.

    296. Lee isn’t bad, in the folky-soulful singer/songwriter vein. But the problem is that there are thousands and thousands of Lees running around, clutching guitars [Hell, Crystal just married one.] He’s got a cool gruff sound, but he’s not that special. He’s not that deep. He’s like the Disney version of Ben Harper or someone. The fact that they’re releasing this as his single speaks VOLUMES to my conclusion that they are simply buying someone who “fits the suit.”

      Well, maybe the album will be better.

    297. This. They all do it. Chris and David’s CD’s weren’t ‘rock’ enough. Kelly’s first few CD’s weren’t what she wanted to do, etc. They all have to make some sacrifices to broaden their audience. Pay your dues and then make the kind of record you want to make later.

      In other words, disappoint and sacrifice your current fans who like you as you are, to gain new fans who don´t like the “real” you? Then later on, reverse this scenario?

    298. Ah, but you kind of have to mentally filter the comments. Not every negative or positive is equal. Some fans LOVE everything their Idol does, so you can ignore them. Then there are fans of other idols that have to deride everything their arch enemy does. Ignore them too. Then there are the kum-bi-ya (how is that spelt anyway?) fans, who are all about loving everybody and everything. Ignore them (and set their granola on fire). Then, there are the cranks that hate everything. Ignore. Ignore. Ignore (and stay off their lawns if you know what’s good for you). You can also ignore people who claim to never listen to the radio because how would they even know what would be a hit on the radio? That will get rid of about 97% of your comments, right there.

      :lol: That was great- you really nailed it there! Can everyone find themselves? And I bet most of us guess ourselves wrong ;)

    299. Had he put out a copycat of “Slumberland” he wouldn’t have had any radio play, sold little, and then the people who only measure Idol’s successes based on what their predecessors accomplished would have deemed him a complete failure. I’m afraid Lee’s just ‘damned if you do, damned if you don’t’ with some.

      I agree. As much as I love everything Lee has done previously, you’re absolutely right and I think this was a smart move. I do not think he’ll lose fans at all. I certainly haven’t seen any “hate” as someone referred to above. I’m not really disappointed as this is what I expected. And it is a good song that I hope will make that boy tons of $$$$ along with his album. Like I’ve said before, I’m buyin whatever he’s sellin in the way of music because I want him to be successfull so I can hear lots more from him in the future.

    300. Listening for a fourth time. Really love it. Its catchy. I disgaree with people who said this is not Lee. Lee is a complex singer with not just one style of singing. Think his album will show that and it will be a variety of different sounds. I’m so looking forward to it. Can’t wait to put this single on my ipod.

    301. Pay your dues and then make the kind of record you want to make later.

      What if your first record alienates your core fans and as a result just doesn’t get people interested, and you end up getting dropped from your label? Then you end up back on an indie label and make the music you want, but you’ve got a label as having failed?

      That’s the thing, the major labels don’t care if this sort of thing happens with someone – they’ll throw everything at the wall to see what sticks, and whatever doesn’t they just write off as a loss. I see nothing wrong with an artist sticking up for their vision, and sticking up for themselves in the process. Maybe this is what Lee wants to do though style wise. If it is, who knows if it’ll sell after the first couple months. Maybe, maybe not.

    302. After listening to the song a few times, think it is just ok. I don’t love it, don’t hate it, would probably listen to it because I do like Lee’s voice. I do like Lee and have his other two albums, and I think this is a departure, it is very poppy. ANd I do think it’s a lot like LLWD, but think that is a better song, even though that wasn’t one of my favorites either. I also see some similarites between SS and Breakeven by the Script, or the new Train songs.

      I don’t think I would buy the album just from this single, especially if I didn’t know him from AI. I know sometimes singles aren’t that representative of the whole album, and I will check that out. I know that last year, I didn’t really like the LLWD or FYE that much, but did like other songs on their albums.

      OTOH, I absolutely loved Light On, and the interesting part that is I really feel that if I had heard David Cook’s music without ever seeing him on AI, I still would have been a fan of his and would have still liked his album. I’m not sure about the others, though I really like TT and WWFM by Kris and Adam, because I am a fan of them too, but feel that I might not have been if I hadn’t seen them on AI. I feel the same way about SS too, I probably wouldn’t have even considering buying the cd just from SS. It is mainly because I am familiar with Lee from AI that I will probably buy the cd.

      The other thing is I think that just from this single, even though David Cook didn’t write Light On, it was closer to the style that DC does write in than SS is to Lee’s earlier work. Probably because DC is influenced by Chris Cornell. And it did very well. I can also see the progression in songs that DC did write in the new album, that the songs sounded like he wrote them.

      It does seem that SS is really trying to conform to what is doing well in pop right now. I know we haven’t heard the rest of the songs, but according to what Lindsey Parker said, that the song Live it up is very similar. If that’s what Lee wanted to do, it’s fine.

      I also think IMO that it is a problem in pop music if an artist has to conform to what is popular instead of just creating the music they do best, and if it is good, it will catch on and become a hit. Especially if it something different. To me, it seems that popular music has been very stagnant and has had a lack of diversity in the past 10 or 15 years, and I think this is why.

      And, I don’t expect everyone to like what I like when it comes to music, I think it’s very subjective, and no one is right or wrong about the type of music they like. But there should be a range of types of music so people can find what they like.

    303. Oh, Slezak. He’s written some great stuff and he loves AI more than I ever could, but I am not at all surprised that a chunk of his review boiled down to “like Kris Allen, except not as good”.

    304. Eriko:
      10/13/2010 at 9:17 pm
      This. They all do it. Chris and David’s CD’s weren’t ‘rock’ enough. Kelly’s first few CD’s weren’t what she wanted to do, etc. They all have to make some sacrifices to broaden their audience. Pay your dues and then make the kind of record you want to make later.

      In other words, disappoint and sacrifice your current fans who like you as you are, to gain new fans who don´t like the “real” you? Then later on, reverse this scenario?

      I don’t know much about the music business (except that it is, first and foremost, a BUSINESS) but I do know something about marketing & advertising.

      In advertising, when you have something new to bring to people, your only hope of having them buy it is to make it somehow familiar. Get your hooks into them with something they can understand and then slowly, over time, bring them around to what you really want them to buy.

      So, I agree with weebs. Do you deal with the devil when you hit The Big Time in the entertainment industry? Yes, you do. But if you know that going in (and I believe, from the way Lee played the game on the show, that he does) you can survive and even thrive.

      We don’t know squat until we hear the whole album, but based on the comments of those who HAVE heard more of it than we have, it sounds like this over-processed sound will not be present on every tune. There should be plenty for Lee’s fans to be something other than “disappointed” over.

    305. I agree with Weebs. While I don’t think SS is really Lee’s style, he didn’t sell out either. When he auditioned for Idol, he knew exactly what would happen if he won, and he clearly wanted to win more than life itself. He was willing and ready to make whatever sacrifices he had make to to be heard on the radio and get a major label record deal. So if recording a generic pop song is part of the dues he had to pay to have his voice heard by many rather than just a few, then I’m all for it. Who among us wouldn’t do the same? I sure would. As long as most of his album sounds more like the pre-Idol Lee and the Lee we saw on the show, there’s nothing wrong with one or two songs sounding more like something David Archuleta might sing. All the winners have to pay their dues. Would David Cook have chosen to record CBTM, or have chosen that bland song to be his second single? I think probably not. But he did what he had to do to get airplay and that song did pretty well on the radio. And of course there was the Magic Rainbow song which Cook knew was cheesy but he always managed to make it his own every time he sang it live, hehe.

      Once an artist becomes commercially successful, they can record the kind of music they really want. Those who care too much about “artistic integrity” over success and refuse to make professional sacrifices wind up staying stuck on indie labels and not getting any airplay or making much money. Not mentioning any names, but that was the downfall of one particular winner and I’d be surprised if a certain runner up makes any concessions to The Man either. Of course there’s nothing wrong with that if that’s how you roll, but don’t expect to become wildly successful either, although in rare cases it can happen anyway.

    306. We don’t know squat until we hear the whole album, but based on the comments of those who HAVE heard more of it than we have, it sounds like this over-processed sound will not be present on every tune. There should be plenty for Lee’s fans to be something other than “disappointed” over.

      But won´t SS bring the people who like the “over-processed-sound” just to disappoint them when they hear the other “real” stuff. And at the same time, people who don´t know Lee and would like the other songs, won´t have a reason to check it out, as their only reference to the CD, will be SS?

    307. I also think IMO that it is a problem in pop music if an artist has to conform to what is popular instead of just creating the music they do best, and if it is good, it will catch on and become a hit. Especially if it something different. To me, it seems that popular music has been very stagnant and has had a lack of diversity in the past 10 or 15 years, and I think this is why.

      This. When I was in high school/early college, in the middle to the end of the 90s, there was some sort of diversity on pop radio. My local top 40 station (out of Toledo) during that time played Britney, all the boy bands, the Spice Girls…but also music like Green Day, Barenaked Ladies, Hootie and the Blowfish, and then near the end of the decade even the swing revival music like Brian Setzer and other similar groups. A little bit of rap here and there. I had no issue listening to that station all the time, even as a college music major. Similar top 40 stations in the Cleveland/Akron area were the same way. The same station today out of Toledo now is just miserable formulatic pop and R&B music. Total dreck 95% of the time. It’s not the station, it’s the nature of the “top 40” genre.

      Again, what does CHR stand for? Crappy Hit Radio?

      I really refuse to believe that the most popular music would be what it is today if the music industry didn’t just push people to listen to that.

    308. Eriko:

      But won´t SS bring the people who like the “over-processed-sound” just to disappoint them when they hear the other “real” stuff. And at the same time, people who don´t know Lee and would like the other songs, won´t have a reason to check it out, as their only reference to the CD, will be SS?

      I don’t think so, because there is more to the song than over-processed sound. And because if it does well, there will be a second single, and a third, and plenty of chances for those “who don’t know Lee,” to get to know him. That’s the whole point of an accessible first single for a new artist. (At least, I assume that’s the point. It would be the point if I were the one in charge.)

    309. Who among us wouldn’t do the same? I sure would.

      I wouldn’t, at all. Any elation that I might get from the initial success would probably be pretty tempered by the fact that down the line I wouldn’t be able to do what I wanted to do. And yes, I realize that many people believe that you have to play the game and work for the man to make it today. I’m sorry, that’s just a bleak way to live. Read 1984.

    310. But won´t SS bring the people who like the “over-processed-sound” just to disappoint them when they hear the other “real” stuff. And at the same time, people who don´t know Lee and would like the other songs, won´t have a reason to check it out, as their only reference to the CD, will be SS?

      Variety is the spice of life. Maybe people who only like the pop “sound” get introduced to another type of music that they didn’t know they might like and be pleasantly surprised. Lee’s two previous albums had a nice variety of songs.

      The next single released may be a completely different type of song and attract others who don’t know Lee.

    311. I don’t think so, because there is more to the song than over-processed sound.

      Well, I´m hoping SS will be an odd-ball on his CD, as it´s a song that would be so far from making me interested in checking out the artist any further. On the other hand, there are other Lee songs that would make me show some interest. Now, if SS does represent the CD as a whole somewhat, then I don´t see anything wrong with selecting SS

    312. wjmtv:
      10/13/2010 at 10:18 pm
      Don’t give up yet, mozart. At least, not until you hear the whole CD.

      Lol. That’s the point though. For someone like me, they may not give him another chance after hearing this – the whole first impression thing. Then again, there’s plenty of people out there to appeal to; you won’t appeal to everyone so you make sacrifices and choices.

    313. For someone like me, they may not give him another chance after hearing this – the whole first impression thing.

      That’s what is so glorious about living in the 21st century. You don’t have to rely on first impressions. You can listen to clips galore before you ever have to plunk down a dime for a song. C’mon, dude. You’re a musician and you’re telling me you’d stop after listening to one song?

    314. You are unlikely to buy his album

      Maybe I would have. Maybe I still will if this one track is totally different than the rest, but this track didn’t encourage me to.

      But yes, I’m 1 out of 300,000,000 people in this country – losing the chance of one person buying the album will by no means make or break him. Perspective there is important.

    315. That’s what is so glorious about living in the 21st century. You don’t have to rely on first impressions. You can listen to clips galore before you ever have to plunk down a dime for a song. C’mon, dude. You’re a musician and you’re telling me you’d stop after listening to one song?

      I’m saying people “like” me, not me myself. I’ll likely listen to every one of the singles and clips as they come out here just out of curiousity, so I’ll know what sort of sound the rest of the album has.

    316. Don´t you think he´d preferred a song that he wrote and represented him more honestly?

      I don’t know that Lee didn’t write this song or that he feels it doesn’t represent him. I’m not him, just a fan.

      Even so, I don’t personally know anyone who hasn’t ever had to compromise to get through life successfully. I’m comprising now as I’m writing this because there’s a lot I’d like to say but won’t. Why? I don’t want to get blocked. I have a boss at work. I have to do things I don’t particularly agree with. Why? I want to eat. So, sue me. It’s called life, pitiful as it may sound. I’m not doing anything illegal or immoral and as far as I can tell, Lee isn’t either with the release of this single. Maybe that’s why I don’t understand what the big deal is.

    317. Please America, stop voting for the WGWG (white guy with guitar) year after freaking year. That goes for America’s Got Talent too.

      We get it. They’re cute. They’re humble. But the record companies just want to make them bland lite-Rock with absolutely no originality.

      Here is to hoping US X-Factor’s set up weeds out the guys that are just getting through based on the tween female fanbase of just thinking they are cute.

    318. mozart4898:

      I’m saying people “like” me, not me myself. I’ll likely listen to every one of the singles and clips as they come out here just out of curiousity, so I’ll know what sort of sound the rest of the album has.

      Good! Cuz you’re the one I know, not just people like you. :)

    319. I think this song is catchy and will fit in very well with today’s Pop music. I attended a couple of IDOL concerts this year, and it was pretty obvious to me that Lee has large teen fan base (not only teens, but lots of them) and I think the song will really appeal to that group of fans. I think it’s radio friendly too.

      I do think his voice sounds pretty autotuned in parts, which takes away from his unique sound and will make it hard for Lee to sing the song live, but Taylor Swift can’t sing live at all and she’s at the top of the charts, so I’m not sure that really matters!

    320. Eriko:

      But won´t SS bring the people who like the “over-processed-sound” just to disappoint them when they hear the other “real” stuff. And at the same time, people who don´t know Lee and would like the other songs, won´t have a reason to check it out, as their only reference to the CD, will be SS?

      …But would you stop wearing blue because you might not please those who like red, would you? No, if you were smart, you’d compromise. I see what you mean but it’s inevitable as some will be drawn to want to listen while others will not. This applies to all recording artists. That’s why they release a whole album and not a single song. Even then, it’s highly unlikely that the album will cover all genres of songs. You can’t please everyone.

    321. What about someone who likes and/or owns music by Hinder, John Mayer, Five for Fighting, Barenaked Ladies, and the Dave Matthews Band who thought that Lee’s eventual music might be something in that sort of vein and thought he might actually be surprised and like it? Because that’s where I thought I might end up when his major label debut was made, even though I didn’t like him on the show.

      I think that’s exactly who the rest of the album will appeal to, aside from maybe Live It Up, if it’s the same vein. I have a feeling, however, that Live It Up is more of a midtempo song. I also think there might be a James Morrison or Ben Harper type song on the album for those who like that genre.

      I have pre-ordered Lee’s album and a ton of his other fans have, also, and I’m not worried about whether I will like the songs. I know I will. But there are a lot of people who don’t buy albums anymore. They buy singles. His album is going to appeal to many, I’m sure of it. That’s smart. Really, really smart. There’s also not a lot of time between single releases anymore. Taylor Swift released three in about 6 weeks time. So, if you don’t like this song much, it won’t be long until there will be another for you to sample. It might be more to your liking. I’m not going to judge the whole album or future sales of his music based on this one song. It’s one song.

      Everything we thought was a given in the music industry is no longer. It’s not the same industry it was even two years ago when Cook won Idol. The stakes are much, much higher and the rules change every day. I don’t begrudge anyone who is trying to make it for doing whatever they have to do to sell records. I believe there’s going to be more experimenting over the next couple of years than one would ever think possible.

      BTW, I have listened to the song on repeat all day. I love it. And I love all of Lee’s other songs, too. There are many sides to this man. There’s something for everyone to love.

    322. Isn’t it kind of odd for people who don’t like Lee to be concerned about the direction he is going

      All I said was it did not sound like the Lee on AI and the other stuff I have heard him do. And the other stuff is much better than this zippa-dee-do-dah song. As far as the direction he goes…I am not concerned….at all. So far the only AI folks who have gotten any of my money is Adam and Carrie at concerts. My wife has the Adam CD and I have pre-ordered Crystals.

    323. If he bombs, Idol loses cred, which, frankly, they can’t afford to lose at this juncture.

      Wow… there are quite a few winners that need to step it up, you can’t put the success of a 9 year old tired reality show on the current winners shoulders only. And what about the non winners that got signed and didn’t succeed? Lee’s fault too? They all have the chance to do with they need to do to succeed and I think Lee was very smart.

      I think Lee is very happy with this song as are his fans. He sounded so happy in his interview this morning.

      Has it been proven somewhere that he didn’t write or cowrite this song? He did tell us to be ready for surprises, so I bet he did in fact have a lot to do with this song.

      Eta… he sounds fricking fantastic at his LDO site

    324. Isn’t it kind of odd for people who don’t like Lee to be concerned about the direction he is going?

      Well I am not concerned I didn’t watch Idol but thought I would give his single a fair listen…I listened and was meh….moving on….ok not really reading this thread is interesting. This is my first experiance of 1st Idol single release angst…hehe been eating popcorn :mrgreen:

    325. But would you stop wearing blue because you might not please those who like red, would you?

      Well, I only wear colors that please ME

    326. glamertitis, there has been no official comment on whether he wrote it or not, but if he’d had a hand in it, I would expect them to have emphasized that on Ryan’s show. That’s why I voted “No Co-Write.”

    327. Anyone who took the time to listen to this song whether it be fan or non fan I’d bet anything they will listen to the sample tracks once they go up on Amazon or something. If you don’t like the clips, don’t buy the album. Pretty simple. I know for me if there’s an artist on my radar I don’t simply say “gee this song sucks so obviously the whole CD sucks”.

      Sorry but its pretty naïve to think Lee can simply sit back and do whatever he wants and not have to abide by what his label wants. He said from day one the album would have some pop so I’m not convinced he’s even against the song but I can’t fault him at all for playing nice. Well there was Taylor who supposedly was a bit difficult to work with and we see how he got treated in return.

    328. You wouldn’t have typed that if you’d been around for years and years of this. Every year it’s the same dance – fans pumping up their favorite and non-fans being ‘concerned.’ It’s one of the most fun things about Idol if you’re not invested either way. Popcorn time!

      I have watched Idol for years but only one season (AI8) did I really care what happened to the Idols after the show ended.

      I agree, every year it is the same dance. But I must say it is much easier to just watch the dance with little care about the outcome.

      Popcorn is popping right now!

    329. It’s not my first, but it’s my most angsty, because S9 has had to take so much shit from everyone. I want them all to kick ass even more than I would just because I like them.

    330. If he bombs, Idol loses cred, which, frankly, they can’t afford to lose at this juncture. I was actually hoping that Lee’s first single WOULD be one of his co-writes, because that would show at least a bit of good faith on the Sony/19’s part in their winner, good faith in the taste of the people who voted for him (and who keep their franchise afloat). The fact that they switched to some formulaic, safe and inoffensive ditty at the eleventh hour is a downer.

      You don’t see the contradiction in what you said? Regardless of whether I think the song is “some formulaic, safe and inoffensive ditty”, isn’t that exactly why they did it – so that he won’t bomb?

      Maybe I would have

      But more likely you won’t.

      I don’t really like Dave Matthews Band, if they put out another (to me) uninteresting album, who cares, I’m likely to not even listen to it (and I don’t think I did hear their last album), let alone criticize them for whatever song they have out. But if they put out something interesting, I might have a look, but I really won’t be wasting time being concerned about the musical direction they should take when I am not a fan.

      Now I understand why you think it´s fine that a label has total control over an artist. Lee fans control over “non-fans”???

      Who says anything about that? Just saying there is something weird being concerned about the musical direction that someone you don’t like takes. A lot of suppositions have been made to justify being concerned, like what Lee might want (do you really know that?), what his musical identity might be (do you really know that isn’t part of what he wants to be?), etc. And if Lee is isn’t doing something that he wanted to do, this is really nothing unusual for idols. Most, if not all, of them don’t get to do exactly what they wanted.

    331. But yes, I’m 1 out of 300,000,000 people in this country – losing the chance of one person buying the album will by no means make or break him. Perspective there is important.

      Actually, gaining the chance to garner more fans in the “target group” that the labels and radio covet; the 18-30 year olds, is probably what Lee and his label are going for. And let’s face it, this blog, and AI fans in general, really don’t represent that group (myself included!).

      And you could look at this as him selling out, or him showing us a completely different (albeit similar to his pre-Idol song “Sweet Sweet, so not altogether different) side of him. He’s a versatile artist, or he’s a sellout. You can really choose to have the glass half full or half empty.

      I love the soulful, folksy Lee in his songs such as Annabelle, Stay and even Only Dreaming that he debuted at the Arlington concert. But Sweet Serendipity is catchy with clever lyrics, so I say good luck to Lee, and I really think this tune may have a chance.

    332. Regarding my opinion on SS and why I think it´s a mistake and I consider Lee(RCA) potentially shooting himself in the foot by introducing himself to the public with that song, has all been said with Lee´s best interest in mind! My opinion would only get stronger the more I liked the artist.

      Just thought I´d make that clear, as some of the responses have been in the defensive nature, as I was bashing Lee, which I clearly wasn´t

    333. Hazehel: Who says anything about that?

      I thought it was obvious that I was being cynical

    334. wjmtv – I agree with you 100% – I also want the S9 Idols to “kick ass” just to stick it to all the haters!

      I was so glad for Daughtry’s success, just because he was voted 4th place and I thought he deserved better. But I’m concerned for him at this juncture that his songs are all starting to sound the same. It’s getting a little predictable. Already Lee is being unpredictable, so I say – Yeah for him! I like hearing different sides to an artist.

    335. Well, perhaps it’s almost as interesting as wondering if someone shaved their armpits or not? LOL Now that was “angst”

      hahaha

    336. I think this song is catchy and will fit in very well with today’s Pop music. I attended a couple of IDOL concerts this year, and it was pretty obvious to me that Lee has large teen fan base (not only teens, but lots of them) and I think the song will really appeal to that group of fans. I think it’s radio friendly too.

      I see people keep on talking about radio friendlessness, and sounding like top 40 music. But it doesn’t. RCA is obviously shooting for the pop market, but this isn’t the type of pop that is really popular nowadays, these days male pop artist especially are much more R&B then anything else. Either that or they are more dance hits with faster beats, and this song is to slow for a dance hit. In my opinion this songs doesn’t really hit the mark on what is popular these days, perhaps it is somewhat in the middle. But parts of it is catchy so it will properly get a bit of air time, but I dont see this really becoming a big hit.

    337. Lee is taking some great looking pictures!

      Yes he is looking mighty fine in the photos for the album shoot! I really love the cover shot, he looks amazing!

    338. This is nice. I like Lee’s rich voice.

      I was an unhappy AI fan last year, but I think this is a good song.

      The lyrics are nice too.

    339. iluvai, what made me laugh about Ryan’s interview with Lee was when he was asking him questions like he had no idea what he was doing all summer. Hilarious!

      I was expecting him to say something like, “So, does the Idol winner always get to release a major-label album?”

    340. I like the lyrics ‘What will be will be’. Reminds me of ‘It is what it is’. Haha!

    341. Listening to this over and over is like listening to his other preidol and idol songs- you discover something new everytime. His distinctive voice is there with all of the great tonal qualities. The funny thing is that this song is actually just so much more emotionally upbeat than the themes of his previous albums-so that is a change- but I would guess from the descriptions of the ohter songs on the new album that we don’t have to worry- there are definitely some wonderful angsty ones to look forward to! So he got to try something new for him-fantastic- although he does get to sing “sweet sweet” again and I love his phrasing of “sweet serendipity” at the end-not sure that is clear on the recording here.

    342. There is something to be said about strategically planning a day off, a lot of reading to do after work! Love the song, a real toe tapper. That said, there will probably be others on the album I might like better, Dear Isabelle sounds promising. Before Idol Lee wrote songs and played in a band and had a few YouTube videos out there, 2 albums. He did everything he could (with limited budget). Around Chicago he was making a name for himself. Even with all his efforts, he probably may have never been discovered. (I like to think he would have been anyways) So he goes on idol, wears suit jackets but keeps the converse, sang covers with his own spin, and somehow got noticed. With the idols having to sing covers it is hard somewhat to always know what original stuff would sound like. With some, we can search the Internet and find pre-idol music and get a better sense. This is first year I’ve become so invested in someone from idol. So because of the potential I see in Lee, I support him because I want him to have his chance. He’s working his butt off and is not adverse to learning, and I think his album is going to be my best Christmas present.

    343. Unless Lee sold his free new Ford we know the first line of this song is not true which makes the song not true to who the artist really is or going through.

      Lol, so what? Does every song have to come from an experience the singer/songwriter/artist is going through? I guess Kris and Katy are having some serious issues in their relationship then.

    344. This song makes me feel like I just downed 5 red bulls. Makes me feel jittery, a bit crazed and the end result is a headache. lol Did they have to stuff it with sooo many words?! Am I hearing things or is there a crazed off beat clapping at the end of the song? Or was that a portion of the radio show? I can’t tell.

      I’m not understanding the Mraz “connection”.. if the writers were going for Mraz’s “The Remedy” type of song.. I think they missed.

      The only thing I can remember from this song is “Sweet Serendipity.. oh oh oh..” I think the song is super bouncy, which is good, but that piano drive is a bit overpowering and by the end of the song my head is throbbing to the beat.

      Comparison to LLWD: I agree it seems similar, but I don’t understand the LLWD hate. I like that song. At first I wasn’t too thrilled with all of the fast phrasing and excessive lyrics to LLWD, but I came around and enjoyed the song. LLWD had a good balance between the overall song and the fast paced chorus, which IMO makes it a better song than SS. SS is a constant bombardment of lyrics and piano.

      I still think Lee records well (when the producers don’t process the crap out of him.. I heard some natural Lee tones on small bits of this song).

      Still looking forward to hearing other Lee songs. I don’t know about radio play for SS. The dj’s on my local station introduced a clip of the song (prior to the Seacrest full reveal) and their reaction was “it’s upbeat…idk.. i think it’s alright” and that was the end of their opinion.

    345. “You wouldn’t have typed that if you’d been around for years and years of this. Every year it’s the same dance – fans pumping up their favorite and non-fans being ‘concerned.’ It’s one of the most fun things about Idol if you’re not invested either way. Popcorn time!” –sallysimmons

      This cracked me up! Perfectly stated. It’s the same song and dance every year. Every Idol has been bashed to no end. MJ’s blog (and other AI centric blogs) are an extension of the Idol water cooler. It’s what makes our Idol world go round.

      It’s like a hazing ritual or something. Each Idol must go through a thread like this one. :)

    346. It blows me away that he’s the same guy as the one who sang ‘Aint No Sunshine’ at Village Underground a month ago, Annabelle! and Only Dreaming. Smoky and dark are my favorite moods of his…Don’t get me wrong, I like the lyrics of Sweet Serendipity,and I love his voice always… it just seems kinda jacked up to me.

    347. Am I hearing things or is there a crazed off beat clapping at the end of the song

      no you heard right

    348. Late for the party. This song sounds like the mix of Kris, Archie with Cook voice. To me, his sound is too strong for this fast paced song. What’s going on with all inspirational songs? I thought you should sing a LOVE song to get on Top 40. I am sure RCA will push it since it’s the debut song for the CHAMP.

    349. “This reminds me of a Kris Allen or even David Archuleta song,” {this is something Beiber or Archuleta would sing}” — *yawn*

      My sentiment is that it is a Lee song, cuz Archie and Bieber didn’t record anything like this.

      BTW.. Archuleta would NEVER put a song like this on his album. I’m sure he was thrown these types of diddies at him left and right, but TOSOD and self titled debut speak for themselves. And I’m pretty sure Bieber can’t spell serendipity much less sing it. Kris.. well he had a better version of SS and it’s called LLWD.

      Anyway, Archuleta is a big fan of Lee and I’m sure he’ll be pimping this song when it’s released. So good on Archie and good for Lee!

      smeggingnuts.. thanks.. i’m glad i’m not the only one hearing out of sync hand clapping. that is weird!

    350. It reminds me of “Waiting for My Rocket to Come” By Jason Mraz. I like that song. I’m indifferent to this one. But, looking forward to listening to the album.

    351. I like the lyrics ‘What will be will be’. Reminds me of ‘It is what it is’. Haha!

      Just a direct borrowing from Doris Day’s Que Sera Sera, parts of the lyrics expressed the same sentiment as “The future’s not ours to see, que sera, sera”, like “But I don’t lose my head, cause it ain’t really up to me”. It however does fit in perfectly with Lee’s “it is what it is”.

      The song lyrics does have a lot of echoes of pre-sixties songs.

      I’m wondering if the song title would have worked better if it is called “Lady Serendipity” (as a personification of the idea of serendipity), but then there would be one extra syllable in a song that already has too many.

    352. This is the first time I’m posting on this thread because I needed to let the song simmer in my brain for awhile. ;)

      Initial reaction, I noticed my foot was involuntarily tapping along with the beat, but my mind was saying ‘WTF, this is not Lee.’ I winced just a bit at a few of the lyrics (the lottery line, for example).

      I realized that the problem I had with Sweet Serendipity was that I love sensitive acoustic Lee (Only Dreaming, Crash into Me) and hard rocking Lee (Never There) and soulful bluesy Lee (Annabelle and VU Ain’t No Sunshine) but had never heard top 40ish Lee and, frankly, I was having a little trouble processing poppy Lee.

      But as the day wore on and I listened to the song, it grew on me.
      So after approximately 20 hours and numerous listens I’ve decided that Sweet Serendipity is a good tune and a good first single that will attract non-Idol listeners, and that’s always good because no Idol can have a lasting career based only on a TV-watching audience alone.

      I’m looking forward to the album to see what other surprises Lee has in store for us, but I am also hoping for more Never Theres and Annabelles.

    353. BTW.. Archuleta would NEVER put a song like this on his album. I’m sure he was thrown these types of diddies at him left and right, but TOSOD and self titled debut speak for themselves.

      Really? Uh, no. I’m not even a Lee fan but did give Archie’s album a few listens on the stream. His pretty cheesy and generic too, especially in the production. That being said, there’s ‘No Dark Side of the Moon’ coming out for ANY of them and I don’t expect it.

      I’m not a big fan of Lee’s voice but I like pop. I’m not into broody, sleepy angst, so this works better for me. I can’t make it through his pre-idol music.

    354. Well, here is my late reaction. I have mixed feelings about the song. I kind of like the music, kind of don’t like the lyrics in the verses (I was surprised that I noticed them because I don’t usually focus on lyrics). I believe Lee probably didn’t write this.

      I like how upbeat the melody is and think it might be fun live. I don’t like how they produced Lee’s voice on this song, it sounds a little too processed.

      Final verdict: I’m not interested in this specific song, but I can’t wait to hear the rest of the album, especially songs Lee has written.

    355. I was having a little trouble processing poppy Lee.

      I will admit that my first reaction was I was taken aback and didn’t know what to make of it. But subsequent listens had me grooving to the song. Verdict: I love the poppy Lee as well.

    356. Just so people don’t think that all Lee fans are in lock step agreement about this song I’m here to say that I really don’t care for it very much. To be honest, it sounds like overly processed cheez whiz with a large side of autotuning thrown in. And that disappoints me because I know that Lee is capable of so much better. On the other hand, I have no doubt that 1) Lee didn’t write this dreck. At least for the sake of his credibility as a singer/songwriter, I hope he didn’t, and 2) I’m pretty sure RCA foisted this song on him at the last minute and it wasn’t his choice to make this his album’s debut single.

      But the bottom line for me is, this isn’t Lee. At least it isn’t the Lee I’ve come to know and really enjoy listening to through his Idol and pre-Idol recordings and performances. I can only hope that this isn’t the Lee of the future either.

      Just my two cents.

      P.S. To those who know who they are. I’m sorry. I’m going through some personal stuff and was having a particularly bad day yesterday, but that’s no excuse for the way I acted.

      Please forgive me.

    357. Late to the party. Won’t say much other than the lyrics made me laugh. First, I’m wondering exactly how Lee stretched his jeans too far. Does Lee DeWyze Official have a fanbase thread, too? And then, you never know when diamonds may fall? Bzuh-what? Like, they’re going to rain from the sky? Fall out of a tree? The jeweler did a bad job with the setting and your diamond falls into the drain? What an odd metaphor. Sounds like a line written by someone who doesn’t count English as their first language. Extra wordy songs can be fun, trying to decipher the lyrics so that you can sing along, like BNL’s One Week or Mraz’s Remedy (and a bunch of others) or REM’s End of the World…but it’s only fun, for you for me, when the lyrics are interesting and clever. These? Are not either of those two things. Course it could be a hit for him. Lord knows 90% of the Katy Perry catalogue boasts lyrics that were likely penned by a hormonal middle school girl and lifted from her face book page, and she’s doing just fine. Between this song, CBTM, and If I Had You, I’m thinking someone at RCA really goes by the motto- choosing the song on the album with the most inane lyrics=perfect method for finding a radio friendly single.

    358. Does anyone know when SS will be released to radio? Or is it already?

    359. I also think that this is not a co-written song, and that it has been thrown onto Lee at the last minute. I also suspect that it might have been the label plan all along, but pretending to send another song to radio first is a way to shut-up disgruntled fans.
      They used similar tactics with Cook’s single. He was supposedly writing on all the tracks, but then we heard he recorded a song that he didn’t write because, of course, he loved it, then we got the lyrics of the single, then it happened to be the single. Of course, the second single was the other track that he didn’t co-write.

      It makes me sad for Lee because he expected one of his own songs to be the single, only to have it pulled away from him at the last minute, and he must be gutted.

      Now, fingers crossed, it will be promoted, and fingers crossed, it’s going be successful.

    360. And that disappoints me because I know that Lee is capable of so much better. On the other hand, I have no doubt that 1) Lee didn’t write this dreck. At least for the sake of his credibility as a singer/songwriter, I hope he didn’t, and 2) I’m pretty sure RCA foisted this song on him at the last minute and it wasn’t his choice to make this his album’s debut single.

      But the bottom line for me is, this isn’t Lee. At least it isn’t the Lee I’ve come to know and really enjoy listening to through his Idol and pre-Idol recordings and performances. I can only hope that this isn’t the Lee of the future either.

      Probably true and I think Lee would appreciate your opinion. IMO, this is the kind of support Lee wants from his fans, that is, supporting him and his music, not RCA and what they want him to do

    361. Powter48:

      P.S. To those who know who they are. I’m sorry. I’m going through some personal stuff and was having a particularly bad day yesterday, but that’s no excuse for the way I acted.

      Please forgive me.

      It’s allright. Come back to talk with us on twitter soon.

      ItsMyT1me:

      Initial reaction, I noticed my foot was involuntarily tapping along with the beat, but my mind was saying ‘WTF, this is not Lee.’ I winced just a bit at a few of the lyrics (the lottery line, for example).

      I realized that the problem I had with Sweet Serendipity was that I love sensitive acoustic Lee (Only Dreaming, Crash into Me) and hard rocking Lee (Never There) and soulful bluesy Lee (Annabelle and VU Ain’t No Sunshine) but had never heard top 40ish Lee and, frankly, I was having a little trouble processing poppy Lee.

      Exactly. I said I love SS and will embrace it’s just taking me some time to get used to this different side of Lee. This pop oriented side has thrown me for a loop. Lee’s voice still comes thru on the song. I just really, really hope that he is ok with the last minute change to SS. Still can’t imagine he had anything to do with writing this song. We will find out soon. Lee has worked hard and been so willing to compromise but I too am hoping for more dark, moody angsty Lee on the rest of the cd.

    362. Have to wonder if a lot of those fans who pre-ordered this album are trying to get their money back. Certainly Lee’s die-hard tween fans will love this studio formula fluff, but the rest who were expecting a harder/grittier edge in the KOL/DMB vain must be appalled.

    363. springboard:

      It makes me sad for Lee because he expected one of his own track to be the single, only to have it pulled away from him at the last minute, and he must be gutted.

      Now, fingers crossed, it will be promoted, and fingers crossed, it’s going be successful.

      Me too. If that was RCA’s plan all along then that was a mean thing to do. Make him think a song he co wrote on will be the first single and then have it taken away at the last minute. It just makes me mad. Of course we don’t know for sure Lee did not write on SS but imo, it’s highly doubtful.

    364. Just listened to Ray LaMontagne where he sings, “are we strangers now…like Rock´n´Roll and Radio”

      Hopefully one day, Rock´n´Roll and other genres won´t be the strangers to radio as they´re today

    365. Have to wonder if a lot of those fans who pre-ordered this album are trying to get their money back.

      I pre-ordered, I don’t LOVE this song, I’m not a tween, and I wouldn’t give up my copy of Live It Up if they offered me 10 times what I paid. But, that’s just me. :)

    366. Does anybody else keep thinking Silly Salamanders when you see SS? Lol. I like the song, but the poet in me wishes they had pared down the lyrics a bit to fit the melody. There are so many sides of Lee and I think he can sing in a lot of different styles, doesn’t mean he doesn’t know who he is, just means he’s not limited. And just as he has preferred styles he’s more comfortable in, we fans will have our favorite Lee style. I’ve seen positive reactions from previous non-fans, so maybe SS will expand his fan base. I hope everyone gives his album a chance, because we’ve been promised surprises!
      Dumb question alert: is there a difference between auto tuning and synthesizing a voice (like Cher did on later songs)? I don’t think Lee needs auto tuning for pitch problems, but the metallic sound in the chorus seems unnecessary.

    367. negativo:
      10/14/2010 at 9:58 am
      Have to wonder if a lot of those fans who pre-ordered this album are trying to get their money back. Certainly Lee’s die-hard tween fans will love this studio formula fluff, but the rest who were expecting a harder/grittier edge in the KOL/DMB vain must be appalled.

      Let me set your mind at ease on at least one count: one of those fans would be me and I still plan to buy the album because I feel sure there will be lots of grit for me to brood over. I certainly wouldn’t dismiss the entire thing out-of-hand based on one song.

      Powter, no problemo.

    368. And then you never know when diamonds may fall.Bzuh-what?

      It is a metaphor, but even us Joe Schmoes can figure it out. :) Not that pop lyrics need to make sense. I don’t know if he had anything to do with writing this song, but the rhythm of the song sounds, um, Norwegian.
      The message of the song does fit Lee.
      I love the energy of this song and Lee sounds great.
      Hope you feel better Powter. :)
      And Negativo-I believe Amazon will cancel your preorder, so don’t worry-you aren’t out any money.

    369. I realized that the problem I had with Sweet Serendipity was that I love sensitive acoustic Lee (Only Dreaming, Crash into Me) and hard rocking Lee (Never There) and soulful bluesy Lee (Annabelle and VU Ain’t No Sunshine) but had never heard top 40ish Lee and, frankly, I was having a little trouble processing poppy Lee.

      But as the day wore on and I listened to the song, it grew on me.
      So after approximately 20 hours and numerous listens I’ve decided that Sweet Serendipity is a good tune and a good first single that will attract non-Idol listeners, and that’s always good because no Idol can have a lasting career based only on a TV-watching audience alone.

      I’m looking forward to the album to see what other surprises Lee has in store for us, but I am also hoping for more Never Theres and Annabelles.

      ItsMyT1me, sorry for quoting almost your entire post…but OMG, WORD. Exactly how I feel about the song.

      I’ve been listening to SS all day too and I do like it a lot, but I’m looking forward to November 16 so we can have the rest of the album. Just from the descriptions of the 4 songs that have been getting good reviews, I know I’m gonna love them (more than SS).

    370. Have to wonder if a lot of those fans who pre-ordered this album are trying to get their money back. Certainly Lee’s die-hard tween fans will love this studio formula fluff, but the rest who were expecting a harder/grittier edge in the KOL/DMB vain must be appalled.

      Sorry to say disappoint, but:

      I’m 35 years old, not a tween.

      I pre-ordered and don’t want my money back.

      I like the song.

      I must be nuts.

      And look, I seriously, truly despise RCA more than the next person but I’m having a hard time buying the whole plan from DAY ONE was to put out a press release announcing a single name a week before it premieres only to change it 24 hours before. Now I CAN buy they may have been waffling between the two or that some Sweden writers made some deal with RCA at the last minute, or that program directors gave the some bad feedback, but they could have screwed Lee just as easily by telling him “yep this is the song we’re making the first single all along” only to switch the title when they dropped the press release and album photo.

    371. I’m 40ish, also not a tween. I have 55 songs of Lee’s already on my ipod and will not be looking for a refund either. He is the only season 9 contestant I bought music from. I am anxiously awaiting his CD.

    372. And look, I seriously, truly despise RCA more than the next person but I’m having a hard time buying the whole plan from DAY ONE was to put out a press release announcing a single name a week before it premieres only to change it 24 hours before.

      Well, I don’t despise RCA beyond thinking their entire web team needs to be fired, but I agree with every word of the rest of this.

      That HitFix columnist (formerly from Billboard), who, quite frankly, seems to have better market judgment than Lyndsey Parker, also thinks this song makes for a better single than the other one. Not being a big fan of DeWyze’s writing, and being aware of how irregularly his natural genre (AAA friendly folk-rock) hits on mainstream radio, I’m not at all surprised that some PDs might gravitate to another song if they are shooting for pop airplay.

      I really can’t blame the record label for actually listening to feedback instead of just letting a song flounder. It’s much better to have PDs on board from the beginning rather than having to switch singles three weeks into the launch (hi, FYE!).

      I may not like the song, but I don’t think it’s that inconceivable that people could like both that and some of his usual, moodier material.

    373. I’m not a tween, below 40 and I’m still buying 2 of Lee’s album. One to wear out, one to keep for later years. I’m not looking for a refund either and SS works for me. Love it. Its still Lee just a different side. BTW since there is so many comparision to LLWD, I have to say I never did care for LLWD.

    374. If it takes 20 hours of repeat listening, contemplation and processing before the song finally grows on you it’s not a good sign. Truth be told, a successful pop song needs to grab the listener within the first 30 seconds of the first time you hear it or else it’s sunk

      It might take a Lee fan a while to get used to this new sound because they were expecting something else, but for the target audience it would grab their attention. I think the very nature of pop is recognizability. How many of us have sung along to “Jeremiah was a bullfrog” at the top of our lungs when it came on the radio. How many embarrassed tweets did we see of people who knew the words to Myley’s “the Climb”! Lol
      this is a catchy tune and nuttin wrong with that! The beauty of playlists is you can have one for each mood!

    375. jpfan, I’m pretty sure I heard next Tuesday. If Kirsten comes along, she’ll know.

    376. rest who were expecting a harder/grittier edge in the KOL/DMB vain must be appalled

      Okay, I’m not a Lee fan, but I’d never categorize DMB as hard or gritty. Haven’t you seen The Mellow Show? LOL

    377. Okay, I’m not a Lee fan, but I’d never categorize DMB as hard or gritty.

      Have you listened to SS yet? Clay Aiken’s Christmas album was grittier.

    378. smeggingnuts:
      10/14/2010 at 2:50 am
      Am I hearing things or is there a crazed off beat clapping at the end of the song

      no you heard right

      You can hear the clapping in the first player MJ has up top (around the 2:56 mark). You can’t hear it in Ryan Seacrest radio one. It is not on http://www.leedewyzeofficial.com/news version either.

      PS Powter48 Please forgive me. Done!! :) Hope to see you on twitter again!

    379. Just saw a tweetfrom MenoxMusic-
      a Billboard reviewer followed by Shirley Halperin:

      Why I like “Sweet Serendipity”: It sounds like a recording artist, not just some winner of a reality show like previous winners.

    380. The top of this thread says SS will be available for sale October 26th.

    381. Reminder:

      A discussion of individual poster’s motivations? 100% OFF TOPIC in any and all threads. Deleting that conversation now. Long time posters, please do not ignore my guidelines.

    382. The top of this thread says SS will be available for sale October 26th.

      And I think that’s insane in and of itself. That’s only three short weeks before the album is due. That’s why too close.

      Why did RCA wait so long to debut Lee’s first single, and now why are they waiting almost two more weeks before making it available for purchase? Especially since downloadable illegal versions of it have been circulating on the net since shortly after its debut yesterday.

    383. I found this on LDO (which is not working right!):
      “OCT13 To me Lee is probably the biggest artist on the music scene today, his melodies and lyrics, his interpretations are superb. His original music inspires and makes you think, what he sang on Idol was for the most part better than originals. But this song… From the moment I heard it till now I’ve had this awful sick feeling in my stomach. What is it? Who is it? Certainly not Lee’s fault. But I have a question for that label: how could they do that? Who do they think they are? How could they take such a unique talent and erase everything that’s special about him? Who gives them the right? And another question: is Idol designed to discover and help the talent or to find and kill the talent? Unfortunately, Lee has probably little or no freedom in this, he’s bound by the contract. He’ll be better off when this is over.”

      I didn’t write this, but I could have. Hope the rest of the album lets Lee’s talents shine.

    384. Why did RCA wait so long to debut Lee’s first single, and now why are they waiting almost two more weeks before making it available for purchase?

      I don’t think that it will affect the sales much because it’s only Lee’s fan who know that it is out at present, and they will buy the single regardless.
      What is important is that it gets a decent radio push, imo.

    385. Eriko-I have no idea what went on between Lee and RCA behind the scenes. And I’ll bet we never know-Lee will never tell.He would never bite the hand that feeds him. He spent years trying to build his music career, recording two very fine Indie-type CDs that went nowhere. Now he has won a great opportunity and he’s very greatful. If he’s disappointed about the switch, he’ll keep it to himself.
      Powter-ITA-I wish it were up on Itunes today. I get that they want time for the song to be heard by a lot of people so first week sales numbers will be higher & if it’s in the top ten in sales it will be on the front page on Itunes-which further boosts sales. But since 95% of music is ripped off these days-many people will already have it by Oct. 26.

    386. I understand the frustration behind the post from LDO, but I’ve been following Idols for too long so I stopped asking why labels do what they do. I’m a huge fan but I hardly think Lee is being treated any differently than the other Idols RCA/Jive/Arists signed before him. He’s not THAT unique in the grand scheme of things and IMO and frankly I’ll never understand the logic in thinking these artists are better off getting away from these major labels, that they’re better off without them. Do you think Lee would rather go back to selling indie CDs? Major labels may make artists compromise but they also invest the kind of money in you that you likely couldn’t manage before.

      I’d bet my life David Cook has many gripes he would like to make about RCA and what he’s dealing with behind the scenes but he keeps it to himself. I’d also bet he appreciates having a major label deal considering he once struggled selling 1,000 CD’s.

    387. I get that they want time for the song to be heard by a lot of people so first week sales numbers will be higher & if it’s in the top ten in sales it will be on the front page on Itunes-which further boosts sales.

      Ohhhhhhh. So *that’s* the method to their madness. Could not figure that out for the life of me.

    388. Ohhhhhhh. So *that’s* the method to their madness. Could not figure that out for the life of me.

      But it’s a risk(isn’t everything in life?). Because they are betting that this song doesn’t have a high burn out rate. In other words, they are hoping that people won’t get sick of it within the next two weeks and then have no desire to download it once it is legally available for purchase.

      But it’s all a crapshoot, so whateva.

    389. It’s not a bad song. It’s just not really a Lee song. But oh well. Reminds me of the type of song that would play in a more lighthearted scene of a romance comedy… maybe something with Reese Witherspoon. The only real objection I have to the song is the wee bit of auto-tuning going on. Really don’t need to hear that electronic voice modification EVER again in my life. I blame Cher — she really got things rolling with “Believe”.

    390. Do you think Lee would rather go back to selling indie CDs? Major labels may make artists compromise but they also invest the kind of money in you that you likely couldn’t manage before.

      There are three questions here:

      1. Is Lee happy compromising his music if doing so will make him a ton of money?
      2. If so, is there anything wrong with that?
      3. Will his fans be happy for his financial success even if they don’t like the music?

      Guess we’ll have to wait and see.

    391. Powter48:

      But it’s a risk(isn’t everything in life?). Because they are betting that this song doesn’t have a high burn out rate. In other words, they are hoping that people won’t get sick of it within the next two weeks and then have no desire to download it once it is legally available for purchase

      It’s a *big* risk, IMO. I used the word “madness” deliberately because I think they’re nuts to wait that long. But…I don’t follow pop normally—how much airplay could it realistically get in the next two weeks?

      negativo, I would suggest that there is a difference between “compromise” and “selling out.”

    392. But it’s a risk(isn’t everything in life?). Because they are betting that this song doesn’t have a high burn out rate. In other words, they are hoping that people won’t get sick of it within the next two weeks and then have no desire to download it once it is legally available for purchase.

      It’s doesn’t have any major airplay yet, that’s not going to be an issue. This could take months to climb, look at LLWD and WWFM. Not exactly rockets to 10 million AI where sales start showing.

      I’m sure Cook, Lee, Adam and Kris and Bo and yada yada (insert your favorite idol here) have all had fights with the label. Kelly and Crystal have aired theirs publicly. You audition for the cheesy karaoke show and do the pointy pose to try and get the major record deal. This is what happens with major labels.

      Now with Idols who have no previous material, there is nothing to compare it to ;)

    393. negativo, I would suggest that there is a difference between “compromise” and “selling out.”

      Good point. I made the change above.

    394. There are three questions here:

      1. Is Lee happy selling out if it makes him a ton of money?
      2. Is so, is there anything wrong with that?
      3. Will his fans be happy for his financial success even if they don’t like the music?

      All idols have to compromise. When you sign for idol, you are selling out.
      For most of them, it’s a choice between finding a regular job, living in poverty or trying for idol.

    395. The vibe of this song reminds me of LLWD. The difference is that LLWD has decent lyrics and this one doesn’t. Sweet Stupidity.

      But yeah, another HAC Idol winner, another pop/HAC song. More of the same.

    396. All idols have to compromise. When you sign for idol, you are selling out.

      I disagree. Idol is really just an talent show, and simply demonstrating your talent doesn’t compromise your musical in integrity.

    397. I disagree. Idol is really just an talent show, and simply demonstrating your talent doesn’t compromise your musical in integrity.

      I does if you accept a contract with Sony. If you don’t want to compromise, wait until the end of the tour and go indie. Season 7 Michael Johns did it, although he may be regretting it..

    398. I disagree. Idol is really just an talent show, and simply demonstrating your talent doesn’t compromise your musical in integrity.

      LOL

      Idol shouldn’t be taken that seriously. It’s just a reality TV show, entertainment TV. It’s not that much about music and talent, it’s more about selling adds and making money. It’s all about money.

      The original Idol show was called Pop Idol. So yeah, Idols are expected to release commercial, pop music. Lee’s single is not really a surprise. Lee knew what he was getting into when he auditioned for the show. If he didn’t know, it’s his own fault.

      Don’t take the show too seriously, because it’s not meant to be taken seriously.

    399. Sara Bareilles (who I love) wrote a great song called ‘Love Song’ a few years back, a few might remember that hit ;) It’s a song about not wanting to write what the label wanted her to write. Well that worked out for her as a hit, but it doesn’t always work out that way. She’s under Sony, Epic records. Point being, this isn’t just Idols. All major labels are going to have an idea of what they want and artists have an idea of what they want and in the end they compromise or maybe an album gets shelved. Or like Christina A who reportedly had a huge say her last album and it tanked. RCA and Jive just aren’t going to have that much confidence in new Idols.

      Don’t take the show too seriously, because it’s not meant to be taken seriously.

      Touche. Love it!

    400. I think it is better to wait to have a single go for sale until it gains some airplay because it will give SS a better Hot 100 debut which counts both sales and airplay. Also, it is better to have a Tuesday drop with a full sales week than to put it out at the end of the week and only have half a sales week. Granted there probably isn’t going to be a huge difference but I can see the strategy and really no reason to rush it. Those who were going to rip off a copy won’t be deterred by having the single available for sale and any fans who are listening to crappy youtube rips are going to buy the song the moment it is up for sale.

      sr4mjc, very true and 10 Years has a song called “Shoot It Out” which is about the pressures from labels to just create product to get something out.

    401. ItsMyT1me – I agree with everything you have to say. I hope the cd will have alot of different emotions to it ! (fingers crossed) I want Lee’s cd to be great and something he will be proud of ! (thinking happy thoughts ) :)

    402. I never said Lee’s willingness to compromise his music for money was a bad thing. Hell, people have done a lot worse than that for a few million dollars.

      Again, read my post:

      There are three questions here:

      1. Is Lee happy compromising his music if doing so will make him a ton of money?
      2. If so, is there anything wrong with that?
      3. Will his fans be happy for his financial success even if they don’t like the music?

    403. I hope you all don’t mind but something I posted this morning was taken out of context, paraphrased and ultimately the whole connotation was changed so please allow me to clarify…

      I didn’t say that it took 20 hours of continuous listening to decide that I liked SS! Jeez I have a life LOL. What I said was that in the 20 hours that ensued after the first listen, I heard it numerous times and once I had the opportunity to process poppy Lee, the song grew on me. Sure it was a shock the first time I heard it. That was to be expected, thus Lee’s tweets about the “surprises” but how many songs do most people love after just a single listen? Perhaps I’m just more analytical but I always listen to a song multiple times to get all it’s nuances before rendering judgment.

      So after reflecting on the single I think it will be successful YMMV

    404. The only question that can be answered is #3, which is for the fans. #1 and #2 only Lee can answer. What’s ‘wrong’ for one is not for another.

    405. Looks like the radio stations are getting Sweet Serendipity – HAC stations 104.9 & 103.7 in CA received it this morning.

      So the promo is moving along!

    406. Why does California always get to be first? Lee is from CHICAGO dammit!

      0:-)

    407. Ah but question 3 begs the question how can he have financial success in music if fans dont like the music, unless of course one is musing that all Lee’s fans are lemmings LOL. But before any naysayers pounce on that question several fans have already said they don’t like it and won’t buy it so it cannot be generalized that we are all lemmings ;)

    408. Ah but question 3 begs the question how can he have financial success in music if fans dont like the music, unless of course one is musing that all Lee’s fans are lemmings LOL. But before any naysayers pounce on that question several fans have already said they don’t like it and won’t buy it so it cannot be generalized that we are all lemmings ;)

      But that is only for fans who know the pre-Idol music right? New fans of the song won’t know the difference and frankly, given the lack of buzz and downloads from S9 and RCA knows what the pre-sales are for Lee, they’re probably casting the net a bit wider.

    409. If I can make a a load of money singing Sweet Serendipity, let me please give it a try, LOL. It has to beat what I do for a living. However, if you heard my voice, if you aren’t a Lee fan now, you’ll soon realize he ain’t so bad!

      In a lot of jobs you get stuck doing some things you may not be the fond of when you are the new kid on the block. A lot of folks put up with jobs that aren’t 100% their liking but pay well, and then save money to do what their hearts desire. I would think it isn’t so different sometimes for the contestants who get recording contracts through Idol. The only difference might be is that these folks are artistic by nature and a bit more anxious to express who they are today rather than tomorrow. The rest of us putting time into a business, engineering, nursing, etc., job to earn enough to do what we really want to do may have just a wee bit more patience throughtout the process.

    410. FB:

      Mix 104.9 in Santa Rosa – The Best Mix of the 80s, 90s and NOW! Make sure you check out The Mix Music Spotlight this Sunday Night @ 10p! Danny will have new music from Kris Allen, Maroon 5, Lee DeWyze and more!!! http://on.fb.me/bNo4ra

    411. ^ I wonder if Lee and Kris are both going to HAC first. Jive vs RCA.

    412. Sr4mjc, exactly. Logic dictates that if they are not already fans but become fans based on hearing SS as the first Lee DeWyze song, they cannot be counted in the sample of fans to whom question 3 was directed thus rendering question 3 a fallacy of logic ;)

    413. Lee has told his fans he is happy with the album and proud of it. He won a chance to have a recording contract with a major label, which had been one of his dreams. Having worked with an indie label I think he kinda knew what to expect. (of course there are always surprises). Lee has a level head for one so young in that he doesn’t look back with regret and he looks at life as a series of steps, and he moves forward. An ability to absorb knowledge as he goes, and his respect for others and sense of humor will benefit him. Nice guys do finish first…in what counts.
      The trickle of information we are getting is frustrating and sets us up for speculating. It is what it is! We will soon know what is on the album, who is on the credits, what the future holds. Since it’s his future, I leave it in his hands.

    414. RE the question: Will Lee’s fans be happy for his financial success if they don’t like his music?

      I will be, yes. This is only 1 song from 1 album. I honestly like the song, though I really do like Lee’s pre-Idol music with a folksy, bluesy side, too, as well his versions of songs from the show. I don’t think he will be forced by the label to abandon his style altogether. Maybe this song is a compromise – see my previous post.

      On the flip side of the coin, I do admire artists who stick to their guns about who they are and what kind of music they want to produce. However, that may run the risk of being perceived as “difficult” and running into roadblocks with the label. I’ve said it before in other posts…Idol has been on for 9 years. Contestants should know by now what kind of music they will be expected to produce, should they be offered a recording contract. If the expectations are something that bothers you, don’t audition and try to make it another way that doesn’t require your having to make artistic sacrifices.

    415. I never said Lee’s willingness to compromise his music for money was a bad thing.

      I would however quibble at the idea that he was necessarily compromising his music for money. The interesting thing about Lee is that he is still very much a work-in-progress, I don’t think we are seeing him as someone who already has a very firm idea of what he wants to be. There are style of music he likes, singers he sees as inspiration and perhaps role models, but it seems that he is open to other ideas. For example he appeared surprised to be given Hallelujah by Simon, a song perhaps he wouldn’t have chosen himself, but at the end he said it’s now one of his favorite songs. He has performed songs (of his own choice) ranging from Owl City (pop) to Kings of Leon (rock) to Simon and Garfunkel (folk rock), so I’m not sure there is a definite style fixed yet.

      Listening to his 2 early albums is interesting – you can hear the faults in the singing and songwriting, but he seemed to be experimenting with his sounds. He is still learning and evolving, and getting better all the time. His single could be something foisted onto him by the label, or it could be his own exploration of the possibilities open to him. We’ll have to see what the album is like first, it’s too early to tell from just one song.

      Most artists do evolve, for example one of Lee’s influences Simon and Garfunkel started out doing pop/early rock and roll/doowop as the duo Tom and Jerry, but later get interested in the folk scene (then folk rock) and became what they are now famous for. Would you say they sold out, compromised, just latching on to the latest fashionable music style, or what? Why not simply see that they just evolved and transformed? Why demand that Lee fix his style when he is still learning and evolving, and not explore what might be on offer?

    416. Hazelhel: Most artists do evolve, for example one of Lee’s influence Simon and Garfunkel started out doing pop/early rock and roll/doowop as the duo Tom and Jerry, but later get interested in the folk scene (then folk rock) and became what they are now famous for. Would you say they sold out, compromised, just latching on to the latest fashionable music style, or what? Why not simply see that they just evolved and transformed? Why demand that Lee fix his style when he is still learning and evolving, and not explore what might be on offer?

      That is an excellent point, m’dear.

      ItsMyT1me, If Lee is a man, and man is mortal, is SS doomed to fail? ;)

    417. ItsMyT1me, If Lee is a man, and man is mortal, is SS doomed to fail?

      Woah, this conversation is getting way too deep for me, yo, I’m outta here! ;)

    418. Don’t leave. I have no idea WTF I’m talking about. ;)

      I would, however, like to say that I think it’s kinda cool that a person of Lee’s age is such an S&G fan. As a musician, one could certainly pick worse role models. Did they ever record anything uber-poppy? Probably not. But the Everly Brothers sure did, and it never stopped them from being bitchen.

      (Ooh. Just showed my age, and I’m not referring to the EB reference.)

    419. S&G fan. As a musician, one could certainly pick worse role models. Did they ever record anything uber-poppy? Probably not.

      I don’t know. “Cecilia” always seemed pretty darned poppy to me.

    420. Did they ever record anything uber-poppy?

      You can judge here –

      Simon & Garfunkel as Tom & Jerry
      Hey Schoolgirl – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yYkGB0xpzE (one of their Everly Brothers influenced songs)
      Baby Talk – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0vjHnDGUzw (Doo-wop, personally I would consider doo-wop uberpop of the fifties)
      I’m Lonesome – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef4aCt_uU-0

      Paul Simon as Jerry Landis
      Lone Teen Ranger – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86HjH9D9dI0
      Just A Boy – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH-RYHPDEKw
      Flame – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc5HAUOXT4M

      Paul Simon in Tico and the Triumphs
      I Don’t Believe Them – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-X-0OwWdaM

    421. It’s a catchy tune for sure, only know the one song and don’t know other band, but anytime Lee can perform is great with me!! I totally don’t know how this whole thing works, we’ll see!!!

    422. Wow, hazelhel. that’s an embarrassment of riches there.

      All right negativo & april, what are youse guys talking about? What’s a Ready Set? Any relation to OK Go? Will it make Lee a pile of cash?

    423. Thank you Hazehel!! Wow did not realize I missed the sound of records!!

      The more I listen to Sweet Serendipity the more I like it! :) Not the Lee we are use to, I believe that Lee will also be on the cd!

    424. Just saw on another web site that this song goes for adds on HAC on Oct 25th(one day before it’s digital release).

      Didn’t see anything yet about when it goes for adds on CHR.

    425. Lee has told his fans he is happy with the album and proud of it.

      There’s no way Lee would say he wasn’t happy with his album! Sorry, but I couldn’t get through the song – too poppy and not at all the Lee I thought I’d hear.

    426. Again, what does CHR stand for? Crappy Hit Radio?

      mozart4898, I believe it stands for Contemporary Hit Radio.

    427. First reaction: too many words, lousy title.

      Second reaction: sounds like something Jason Castro should sing. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, as Jason was my (distant) second favorite after Cook in S7. But, imho, Jason would do it better and it would seem more “him.”

      I wish I could’ve heard the Jack and Jason (Mraz)-like song first. As it is now, I’m back to expecting not to like anything on Lee’s debut. Ahhh, like the comfort of well-worn cashmere slippers. ;-)

    428. That’s where I got Cookie and Kris’s albums (on purpose) and I’m very happy with them. Fingers crossed.

    429. I hope RCA didn’t cut Only Dreaming to make room for Sweet Serendipity. Lee said at the AP concert that Only Dreaming was his favorite song he’d ever written.

    430. dang it Lee Dewyze as much as I disliked you on Idol this is one catchy song and I liked on the first listen oh boy

    431. this was tweeted about an hour ago & posted in the new thread-

      @lyndseyparker:
      Just ran into Lee DeWyze’s PR guy at Mark Ronson show. He confirmed Lee co-wrote “Sweet Serendipity.” Just FYI for those who were asking..

      ETA: Aikam2007, glad to hear you liked the song ;)

    432. Alright, i just tweeted about 10 songwriters we know Lee has worked with & since we dont know who Sweet Serendipity was co-written with, here’s 3 that just replied & confirmed that it isnt co-written by them- David Hodges, Mitch Allan & Chris DeStefano. Although the former 2 were pretty obvious.

      Lol, & yes this is pretty pointless info ;)

    433. OCT13 To me Lee is probably the biggest artist on the music scene today, his melodies and lyrics, his interpretations are superb.

      Well, that’s the most ridiculous sentence that I’ve read today.

    434. Just discovered something, either about the song or about myself. I’m off work today and decided to start my morning off with a listen to Sweet Serendipity at LDO where it keeps replaying. Oh, my…how can this be? I’m actually energized, which is saying a lot for this ole broad. Couldn’t stop bopping around the house. Can I say that SS actually makes me feel good? What a great ‘good morning’ wake up song. I must have been too exhausted, depressed, whatever, after a brutal day at work to enjoy it the last two nights. One of my comments on LDO re the song was to ask if they could slow it down some! Ha! What was I thinking?!

      Could it be that I was mistaken and actually do like “pop” music? All that grousing for nothing? Dare I start listening to the radio again?

    435. bamintx, lol! Sounds like you’re off to a great start today!

      To answer your question, no. Don’t bother turning on the radio. I’ve been testing the market for the last week or so to see what he’s up against and holy god is it awful. If the business actually rewarded good songs, he’d be Grammy-worthy because SS is 1000x better than 98% of what’s out there. But of course, that’s a ludicrous thought.

      It is a fun little song, though.

    436. wjmtv: Thank you very much for biting the bullet – now I don’t have to waste my time! Will be content to listen to my own favorites. Can hardly wait to download this baby off ITunes so I can listen to it in the car on that long drive to work in the morning.

    437. So I have finally heard the song. and i have to admit I like it and I don’t really like Lee. i think he shouts too much but surprise surprise there is no shouting so I liked it. lol. i think it has potential to be a bigger hit that mj’s thinks it could be. it’s not a number 1 song or anything but top 20 defintely and possibly top 10. and good lyrics. I don’t know why but I always figured Lee a little one the “slow” side. guess I was wrong. :)

    438. I think SS is very radio-friendly and I hope to hear it in my area soon :)

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