Kris Allen in Vegas to Perform at the Consumer Electronics Show and BB King’s Blues Club

Update: Kris Allen performed today in the Sony Booth Theater at the CES show in Las Vegas today! Check out the twitpics: HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE. He performed “Man in the Mirror”, “Before We Come Undone”, “Falling Slowly”,   “Heartless” and more.

2nd update: After the jump, Kris performs “Man in the Mirror”

Kris Allen is in Vegas right now, set to perform for the big Consumer Electronics Show happening in Vegas this week.   On Friday night, he’ll perform an acoustic set at the BB Kings Blues Club in the Mirage hotel.

In the meantime, he made time this morning for a couple of radio interviews.   Kris isn’t sure he’ll have time to watch Idol this Season, but he does make time to keep up with his Season 8 buddies.

Check out the interviews after the JUMP…

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And with the AJ in the Morning Show on 94.1 FM San Diego:

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191 Comments

  1. Lady Gaga is playing the Consumer Electronics Show as well. Maybe Kris will get to meet her. Is this one of the gigs where they get paid a bunch of money to come play? It seems like it would be a good opportunity to get your music out to a bunch of people in a wide age range (and who might not necessarily watch AI)

  2. The AJ In The Morning people were such douchebags.

    But awesome that Kris is playing CES. I’ve never heard of this so idk if people usually take video of this kinda thing. Hopefully someone does.

  3. I didn’t catch the radio interview..what’d they ask or say to Kris that was mean-spirited or uncool??

    Cool pic tho, “E.T. phone home…”

  4. I said in the Idol news thread we should get great video!! :)

    Seriously though, I didn’t know these conventions attract this many people. (100,000plus)

    The AJ show…its San Diego..just think aout it

  5. I didn’t catch the radio interview..what’d they ask or say to Kris that was mean-spirited or uncool??

    Cool pic tho, “E.T. phone home…”

    Before the interview one of them was like “We should be mean to him because he beat Adam” and the lady was like “No, no he is supposed to be a nice guy”. When they got off the phone with Kris they started bashing him. Saying he wasn’t paying attention and stuff, but he was they just didn’t understand what he meant. And the guy was like saying you gotta sell yourself, we’ve seen the sales numbers. Just being overall douchebags. But it’s San Diego. Whatever.

  6. Thanks for the AJ morning interview info….I won’t listen to that one then…no sense getting worked up over it.

    Sounds like a cool gig this convention thing….at least it gets more people listening to his music. and Lady Gaga performing as well? I hope we get some video of this.

  7. It’s great that Kris is getting so many performances in Vegas. I never expected any Vegas shows except for NYE. Maybe Kris is going to keep performing in Vegas until one of the gigs coincides with a Garth Brooks show he is able to attend. lol

  8. I have to give full credit to Kris. He stays busy and that is great. Adam never seems to have anything going on. I think even if they are small shows they are still out there so I give full credit to Kris. Can’t make a name for yourself if your not out there. Adam needs to take a tip from Kris

  9. I’m aware this event exists because earlier today I read in the WSJ that SONY featured various new 3-D TV’s at this show. All of the up and coming electronics products are featured at the CES. I wasn’t aware there was entertainment at this event.

    I googled the event and it appears to be quite large – maybe 200,000 people of all ages. Here is a link to the scheduled celebrities:

    http://www.cesweb.org/events/celebrities.asp

    I don’t see Kris listed here, but Lady Gaga is listed as performing more than once.

    It looks like the media cover the event, and then possibly videos go on the CES page. No matter what, it’s exposure, so that’s great news for Kris.

  10. My understanding of Vegas show changed a lot after knowing idols (Kelly, DC, Taylor H and KA) also performed in these shows. Any non winner idol alum performed in Vegas?

  11. Do we know if KAB will play for the convention show or will it be acoustic, too? 100K+ people need a big room, so the full band sound would be awesome. Good for Kris!

    I’ll be Simon: first interview was better than the second (altho I would bet that Kris taped the SD one first)!

  12. Yeah I noticed Kris wasn’t on the list. I wonder if it was a last minute gig. Someone on tweeter said Taylor Swift was there yesterday and she wasn’t on the list either, from what they were saying. Who knows I guest well find out from tweets later or if Kris comes on tweeter and says something.

  13. I have to give full credit to Kris. He stays busy and that is great. Adam never seems to have anything going on. I think even if they are small shows they are still out there so I give full credit to Kris. Can’t make a name for yourself if your not out there. Adam needs to take a tip from Kris

    LOL – um, ahh, yes, that slacker, Adam ;-)

    I don’t think we have much sense of WHAT Adam is doing BTS – just because he’s not performing everyday, doesn’t mean he’s sleeping in till 3pm everyday! Lots of stuff goes on beyond just performing. Just saying.

  14. Whatever they say to him, they have to play his f***ing song whether they like it or not and that’s all we want otherwise Kris wouldn’t be talking to douchebags this early in the morning.

  15. You seem to have a spelling error in your headline for this article, MJ. (I know some people here think it’s funny when people make spelling mistakes, so I thought I’d point it out before anyone mocks you for it.)

  16. I am thinking this is last minute since they reported the BB King deal…I don’t know though

  17. right now, i wish i lived in vegas :]
    oh and he made it to the finals for this website’s artist of the year contest. i don’t really know what it’s for but i still vote for kris just because….it’s kris! haha

    Kris Allen is nominated in our EdgeMusic Artist of the Year Finals. http://www.wishafriend.com/poll/101145/

  18. LOL – Yes the media covers this event. It is the biggest deal in consumer electronics all year. You will see analysis of it in the nightly news and in major newspapers all week. However, entertainment is strictly secondary at these events so don’t be surprised if the press ignores Kris and Lady Gaga. They aren’t the story this week.

    Oh, and it also overlaps with the Adult Entertainment convention every year. I mention this for no reason other than the thought of Kris getting confused and showing up in the wrong meeting hall.

    And double LOL at the thought that Adam needs PR and work ethic tips, since Adam seems to be working five angles at a time 24 hours a day.

  19. Mary102, hey I am a huge adam fan but he doesn’t seem to be out there at all. Kris and/or his band seem to find shows to do even if they r small. Cook did the same thing. It worked wonders for cook. It has to b great for kris’ fans to see him out and about.

  20. For the uninitiated….these “performance” shows at the convention are usually sponsored by one of the exhibitors. There are usually a bunch of these every day and may entail large exhibit hall performances in front of 10,000 or so conventionaires, or may be more intimate “supper club” performances where the exhibitor hosts 500 or so of their purchasers to dinner and a show.

    So I wouldn’t “bet” that Kris is performing for 100,000 peeps. He might be doing a few “dinner” type shows…that is what I’ll surmise unless I hear differently.

    Also, sometimes these celebrities don’t perform at the convention, they are just there, again, by invitation of a large exhibitor. At these times they may do photo sessions and sign autographs. GaGa is on the schedule for a couple of morning “sessions”.

  21. Adam needs to take a tip from Kris

    And play shows that have 200-300 people watching? Why? I think Oprah is in California right now filming segments for the show on Tuesday. Oprah’s viewership is in the range of 7 to 8 million. Maybe he should be there for the Oprah team and be preparing for this golden opportunity.

    The other gig (convention show) is a better opportunity. Where are they going to have a show for 100,000 people? What place is big enough to hold a group this big? I’d love to see some details on this.

    Tess: That’s what I was thinking. My husband has been to lots of these Vegas conventions and attended many of these musical events. It is usually 500-1,000+ costumers in a sectioned off area of the convention center. Hey, it’s still a gig and money is money. But, I figured they weren’t going to have a concert attended by 100K people.

  22. Cool beans. These gigs seem like a great opportunity for exposure outside the AI bubble.

  23. Taylor Swift did a concert at the CES but it was a surprise concert. So who knows what he’ll be doing there. Petty, tired comparisons aside, it’s a pretty cool gig for Kris to have. And the actual convention itself sounds really interesting. Wonder if Kris is taking a look around.

  24. I am a little surprised that Kris has hit Vegas way before ADam. I can remember when playing in Vegas for Adam was a diss on him. When he failed, he would be reduced to playing Vegas gigs-I think was the motto. Now, it is a great gig. I do get the feeling if it were announced that ADam was playing in Vegas-it would be the butt of a joke and linked to his failure so I am glad he is not doing it-regardless of GAGA. I would like to see Adam performing for people more but I guess they know what they are doing. I am not understanding why all of these performances for Kris are not turning into album sales. Are people seeing him and deciding not to buy it or what? Radio is helping the single but appearances don’t seem to be helping the SELL of “Kris”. Having said that, I would like to see more Adam out there.

  25. And, since I can’t edit. These “shows” are not “open to the public”.

    Now when Kris returns to BBKings that is an open supper club show where he is booked by the supper club as their entertainment.

  26. These sound like great gigs for Kris, I’m stoked for him. Yay Kris!

  27. I’m not sure Gaga is performing – she is the new spokesperson for Polaroid so she might just be doing meet and greets etc.

  28. Tess what is the deal with your “dinner” supper” shows. Gaga is even playing there.
    Kris is out there marketing himself. Getting new fans. These aren’t just at the neighborhood bar. He is trying to get outside of idol I think.

  29. I think what I and a few others are saying is that Adam needs to start doing some gigs. He isn’t going to be singing on Oprah, is he? The Gridlock NYE event is the only gig he’s done since the AMAs. It could only help if he and his band did a few concerts before they actually head out on tour.

    I don’t think anyone believes Adam is being lazy or a slacker. Just that there hasn’t been much in the way of live music from him.

  30. Now when Kris returns to BBKings that is an open supper club show where he is booked by the supper club as their entertainment.

    I thought it was analyzed last week that BBKings is way bigger then a suppor club…

    As for the convention, whatever he is doing there can only be good for him.

  31. Mary102, hey I am a huge adam fan but he doesn’t seem to be out there at all. Kris and/or his band seem to find shows to do even if they r small. Cook did the same thing. It worked wonders for cook. It has to b great for kris’ fans to see him out and about.

    No, I understand, and while I have (mostly selfish) reasons to want Adam to perform left and right, I believe there are just marked differences in how Adam and Kris are being rolled out (as we’ve seen all along since the fall). I also mentioned this on the headlines thread when it came up: Kris does a lot more of these gigs, which tend to be for smaller audiences, but get the word out (grass roots-style), while Adam focuses more on fewer, but more high profile gigs (AMAs, Oprah, SYTYCD finale, etc.)

    And so what I’m saying is, I’d hardly say that because Adam isn’t performing as much as Kris, that he’s just doing nothing – case in point would be the AMAs – Kris was all over the place, doing interviews, radio shows, etc, Adam was laying low, but he was working his butt off with the band and dancers for the AMAs. So I’m just saying that there are obviously different PR plans for both of these guys (which makes sense), and that not seeing Adam all the time doesn’t mean he’s slacking off. Hope that makes more sense :-)

    ETA: girlygirl, yes, I agree – I’d like more live performances of his too. Right now I’m kinda taking a “trust in TPTB behind the scenes” approach (lol – putting a lot of faith in those guys ;-)) that he’s doing what he needs to do, just as Kris is.

  32. He isn’t going to be singing on Oprah, is he?

    Why not? I assumed he would sing his new single.

    I think what I and a few others are saying is that Adam needs to start doing some gigs.

    Why? Because you think he needs to?
    Like I said before, at this time he is getting ready for the Oprah show instead of playing for two or three hundred people at BB Kings.

  33. Margie
    I’m not sure Gaga is performing – she is the new spokesperson for Polaroid so she might just be doing meet and greets etc.

    Who knows?

    http://mashable.com/2010/01/07/taylor-swifts-ces-concert/

    Sony’s CEO immediately introduced [Taylor Swift] as their new global ambassador — a smart choice, if you ask us. Not long after they talked about her new job recording her travels on Sony devices, he gave up the stage for her to perform her hit single.

    They recorded her performance in 3D.

  34. No matter how many people Kris may be playign in front of at this convention, it is still a great opportunity to get his music heard by people who won’t necessarily have seen him on AI or gone to any of his other gigs. No one can claim that he isn’t working his butt off.

    And his repeat gig at B.B. King’s shows that he was very well received there. Because they wouldn’t re-book someone who didn’t draw well or got a poor response from the crowd at an appearance barely a week earlier.

    I don’t know why these gigs aren’t resulting in better sales — because he has gotten very good crowd responses everywhere he’s played since tour ended. It could be that a lot of the people at these gigs already have the album (there are a bunch of fans who have been to many of his post-tour concerts), it could be that some people like going to concerts but don’t buy music or obtain it for free. It could be that they aren’t interested in the music enough to spend $15 on it. Who knows? I still think we need to wait until he releases a 2nd single and goes out on tour before making any final judgments on the success or failure of his album. Same with anyone else whose sales aren’t great right away.

  35. I don’t know why these gigs aren’t resulting in better sales — because he has gotten very good crowd responses everywhere he’s played since tour ended.

    Is it true that at the first couple of jingle balls they didn’t even have copies of his album available for sale? Is that still happening? It might be cutting down the # of impulse buyers if so because they would have to make an effort to go somewhere any buy it rather then is just being right there.

  36. I don’t know why these gigs aren’t resulting in better sales — because he has gotten very good crowd responses everywhere he’s played since tour ended.

    Well, two thoughts – first, most of these gigs have been for smaller audiences in the bigger scheme of things (like the jingle balls – it’s a big crowd, but if only 2% decide to buy your album, that’s not generating that many new sales.)

    Also, I think we mentioned before that Kris’s peeps weren’t doing a good job of having his cd available right at the performance locations – imo that is EPIC FAIL – so many lost opportunities to have people buy it right when it’s fresh in their mind.

  37. No matter how many people Kris may be playign in front of at this convention, it is still a great opportunity to get his music heard by people who won’t necessarily have seen him on AI or gone to any of his other gigs. No one can claim that he isn’t working his butt off.

    This I agree with. A singing opportunity is a singing opportunity. But these “gigs” are no more important than the singing opportunities Adam has had. Plus, these Vegas opportunities aren’t really helping Kris and his band get ready for a tour. They are acoustic performances. Why didn’t the whole band go? Is Kris going to tour and do acoustic sets only?

    I’m sure Kris is working hard, but so is Adam.

  38. Tiger92

    Most of the concerts Kris has done since tour have been with his full band.

    And, as I said before, I’m sure Adam is working very hard. I just think it would help him if he and his band did some gigs prior to them going out on tour.

    I don’t watch Oprah very much, but I have never seen anyone sing on her show. Most of the time they just sit there and talk. Have you heard for sure that Adam will be performing on her show?

  39. Girlygirl

    I think its the age demographic that Kris attracts. They buy singles not alums. I know I am one of them. Plus I don’t have enough extra cash lying around to buy multiple copies of an album nor the desire to. I just finished my first year of a “real” job after college and bought my first house. I am broke mid 20yr old just starting off.

  40. I’m not disparaging Kris or his shows in Las Vegas. I think it is admirable that Kris is honing his craft and doing gigs that will help him in the future. It’s what newbies do.

    I’m just trying to be the voice of realism here because I am reading things that give the impression that Kris is getting these tremendous Las Vegas gigs and is basically doing tour type performances. And that is not what is happening and people should be aware of that.

    Mention Las Vegas and the uninitiated thinks of big sparkly stage settings and big shows for lots of people. And this is not what Kris is doing. He is singing at a restaurant that provides entertainment when at BB Kings. And, none of us know what type of gig he is doing while at the convention….but until I hear otherwise I will assume it is also a small intimate show.

  41. girlygirl
    01/07/2010 at 4:37 pm

    I think what I and a few others are saying is that Adam needs to start doing some gigs. He isn’t going to be singing on Oprah, is he?

    I was under the impression that he would, right? Is there different info?

    Also, I think there is no such thing as a “to small of a gig” for a starting artist and I think we all agreed on that already. Both Adam and Kris need to be out promoting their albums, so I really don’t see negative in performing at BB kings or Gridlock or on Opra or open for a more established artists. And I am talking about both of them, I agree that while Kris is doing a lot of live shows, Adam is kind of far and between, and needs to do more.

  42. girlygirl: I know that. But these aren’t. And your point was that Adam and his band needed to be getting experience before a tour began. I was just stating that these Vegas gigs are not helping Kris and his band in that respect either.

    Why do you think they are going with the cheaper alternative? My husband has seen groups like Huey Lewis and the News at Vegas conventions. Why wouldn’t they want the whole band? Maybe Kris is playing a much smaller gig than the Huey Lewis gig?

    I don’t watch Oprah very much, but I have never seen anyone sing on her show. Most of the time they just sit there and talk. Have you heard for sure that Adam will be performing on her show?

    Every performer I have ever seen on her show sings at least one song. I figure it will just be just one song since Adam is sharing the show. 7 to 8 million people watch The Oprah Show daily. It is a pretty big deal.

  43. First of all, great news that Kris is doing the CES. For one, it’s money in his pocket. For another, it’s good exposure to some people who might not already be too familiar with him.

    Next, the question about why aren’t these gigs resulting in sales. How do you know they’re not? He is selling albums. How do you know that a good number of the people who have attended these things haven’t bought the album or, at least, some of the songs on the album? Third, the real reason for doing all the jingle balls is to help him in getting continued good airplay with the hope that that will help sell his music. It’s definitely working for the single. For the album itself, well, as has been said many times, for most people who weren’t already familiar with Kris, they’re probably going to need to hear at least a second single, before they decide to buy the album.

  44. And, as I said before, I’m sure Adam is working very hard. I just think it would help him if he and his band did some gigs prior to them going out on tour.

    And since this is a Kris thread and not Adam’s, I’ll be quick and say that Adam has already done these type of small gigs before going on Idol. And the songs on his album just wouldn’t quite work being sung while someone is eating. Adam wants to do more “stage” type performances rather than intimate clubs…and hopefully things are moving forward so that he can do those.

    Kris is getting a lot of valuable experience….experience that Adam already has…see You Tubes for more information.

  45. To give an example that maybe some can understand:

    Kris performing at CES convention = Adam performing at the Vevo launch party.

    Industry events with celebrity appearances and musical performances. Not much “voice of realism” necessary to understand this.

    Kris is getting a lot of valuable experience….experience that Adam already has…see You Tubes for more information.

    Makes sense since before American Idol, Kris had never performed his own music in front of a crowd before–oh wait. :roll:

  46. The las Vegas thing they go there for the new Gizmos that companies have out now or in the future..Kris Allan is just entertainment mostly .CNN covering it not one mention of the musical guests mostly gizmos thats all..

    Small venues it mostly consists of fans or those who know about the Idol or some who just go there for the music..Not really expanding there base..I guess ya need more than just one hit, maybe open up for someone,get outside the bubble maybe theater or something else.AMA for ADam no matter what is thought created buzz for him outside of Ai and got peeps talking..

  47. Tiger92

    My feeling — and this is just a guess — is that B.B. King’s specifically asked Kris to do an acoustic set, and that perhaps the convention appearance was finalized after the B.B. King one was. When it is a pure acoustic gig, Kris has just been bringing Cale with him. When it has been a full concert like the JingleBalls, ro a big t.v. appearance like Letterman, he has brought his whole band.

    It could also be that the rest of the band are scattered on vacation and would have to hastily rearrange their schedules to do these last minute gigs. Kris and Cale have both been back home in Arkansas this past week, so it would be pretty simple for Cale to simply jump on a plane with Kris.

  48. And, it won’t let me edit my comment for some reason, but wanted to add this:

    On the issue of albums being sold at the Jingle Balls, my understanding is that a number of labels don’t allow sales at these things because they don’t have appropriate point of sale recorders to where the sales count on Soundscan. So, while they might get the money, they can’t be officially reported as a sale.

  49. Great that Kris got those gigs.. the more out there the more dividends.. short and long term.

    Agree with you washpd, for sure those events generate sales although I guess that the majority of fans attending already have the album. An event like CES is even more interesting for him to get new fans as he will get to be seen by a lot of new people. My only concern is the format; I wish he would perform with his band at CES as this is more representative of his album. New people seeing him only acoustic with Cale could think that his album is only acoustic, not that I don’t love acoustic Kris because I do, my point is just to give the right idea about the album with his appearance.

    Tess, yes it’s valuable experience for Kris but remember that Kris has already quite a lot of experience on the bar scene

  50. “Kris is getting a lot of valuable experience….experience that Adam already has…see You Tubes for more information.”

    Kris spent a significant amount of time performing in clubs before IDOL. He is working on gaining fans at this point.

  51. Getting back to the subject at hand, it’s great that Kris is getting exposed to different audiences and is doing gigs in Las Vegas. I’m happy for him because he is ultimately doing what he loves the most and that is playing music.

    ITA. Well said.

  52. Boy, I wish I were in Vegas right now – these gigs sound great, I would love to see one. All of these are great experiences whether they be for 10 people or 10k.

    Glad to see he’s continuing the radio interviews as well. These certainly help grease the radio wheels and doing these appearances will continue to promote him as accessible and likable.

  53. Makes sense since before American Idol, Kris had never performed his own music in front of a crowd before–oh wait.

    I thought Kris was a shoe salesman, college student, and a “Saturday night musician”. I’m sorry, I wasn’t aware that he was a full time entertainer honing his craft.

  54. I thought Kris was a shoe salesman, college student, and a “Saturday night musician”. I’m sorry, I wasn’t aware that he was a full time entertainer honing his craft.

    Tess, even though he had a day job to pay the bills, he was regularly playing on the bar scene and wrote a whole cd (BNS) that he self-produced. So no we are not talking about a Saturday night musician

  55. Well after we thought that January was going to be a quiet month for Kris , I think its great that these opportunities have come up . If he hadn’t been invited back to the BB Kings place he wouldn’t have been going to this convention , so its great that he’s taking the opportunity whilst he is there!!
    Talking about his sales, I agree that his single definitely received a big boost after the Kristmas Balls & the album sales did go up as well just not to the same extent that the LLWD did.
    Anyway , any exposure for Kris in this “quiet” month , is great for Kris .

  56. I am sorry. I accidentally brought Adam in this thread. I was just saying how cool it is that he is taking the opportunities to do these shows. I never meant to get in this thread.

  57. Kris has steadily improved his stage presence and connection with the fans by doing these post-Idol gigs. Check out some of the YouTubes of his more recent gigs and this is pretty clear. While it would be nice to play in front of thousands of people every time out, just gaining experience and having a chance to introduce his music to people who may not be Idol fans is the most important thing.

    I’ve charged my cell phone and am charging the battery for my digital camera in anticipation of tomorrow night’s BB King’s gig. Now if I can only figure out how to upload stuff from my camera to my computer…

  58. Nice that Vegas is working out so well for Kris. He is getting lots of nice gigs, some small, some big, some private………they are all valuable experience and exposure. They are never going to be ‘big sparkly stage settings’. Kris has no desire for this type of career.

    I enjoy his solo performances, performances with Cale and performances with his band. As for why he doesn’t always appear with his band, which would be good experience for his upcoming tour, I imagine it has something to do with cost. Transportation and per diem money for 5 could add up to quite a lot but I have absolutely no idea who pays these.

  59. Have fun girly! And yes I have loved watching the progression of Kris and the performance chemistry with his band. Good stuff for sure.

  60. Where will Kris be next week? The publicists should give him the gold record he’s getting for LLWD at that gig. Unless, they’re hoping the song has enough legs to go plat.

  61. I thought Kris was a shoe salesman, college student, and a “Saturday night musician”. I’m sorry, I wasn’t aware that he was a full time entertainer honing his craft.

    Considering that he wrote and recorded 2 albums, one when he was just 18, it’s obvious that he was more than a Saturday night musician. Kris started off like a lot of musicians do, playing clubs, weddings, and other events. He even opened for other artists in Arkansas. His journey is no different than The Fray, who spent ten years playing in small clubs before they finally hit it big.

    Obviously, given the type of gigs he was doing, he needed to hold down other jobs, which he did. And if we are going to talk like we know his entire life, he did leave school for a time so that he could focus totally on his career. He always jokes that he was in college for six years, but this isn’t true, he left college for a few years, in order to try and make it in the business, he’d only decided to go back when his career wasn’t taking off, and he decided to get married.

  62. I thought Kris was a shoe salesman, college student, and a “Saturday night musician”. I’m sorry, I wasn’t aware that he was a full time entertainer honing his craft.

    Not everyone has the luxury of doing music full time. VERY few people do who are out there grinding in the local music scene hoping for a break. Kris was selling shoes, Cook was a bartender, didn’t Daughtry work at Home Depot? These guys are hardly just singing in their showers, they are entertainers and they are also honing their craft. They have to pay the rent somehow.

    Now, that said, YES, these gigs are great for Kris. He gets more experience performing his current music, he gets more ears to listen to his music (which, at the end of the day, is what matters most), he gets his name out there a little bit more… but it’s hardly this inexperienced kid who needs to learn how to be a musician just because he wasn’t able to do music as a full time job yet.

    My work with my brother gave me a really cool perspective that I wouldn’t have had otherwise about just how hard these kids are working pre-Idol to get a break. I have a really good idea of what it was like for Kris, for Cook, for Daughtry, for the guys who were playing local gigs and gigs at bars and small clubs (sometimes to only the janitor – been there, lol). I guess that makes me root for them even more when they do get that big break because NONE of the bands I knew in our heyday have made it. None. And there was some serious talent here, and these kids worked hard.

    Yikes, sorry, didn’t mean to ramble on so. Heh.

  63. I thought Kris was a shoe salesman, college student, and a “Saturday night musician”. I’m sorry, I wasn’t aware that he was a full time entertainer honing his craft.

    I’m not sure where you got this idea. Kris had dropped out of college to focus on music. (He was getting ready to go back to college when he auditioned for Idol.) Selling shoes was a side job to help pay some bills, but he was regularly performing his music in bars and such, often doing 3-4 hour sets. So, yes, he’s had experience playing for crowds before. And he also wrote, recorded, and produced his own indie CD. So, he wasn’t doing stage shows like Zodiac of Wicked, but he was certainly used to performing his music live.

  64. I guess don’t think smallvenues are as good at expanding the base I think opening up for someone or other ways maybe better.

    Caculated-just my take- some fans of Ai and mentioned by Fuller is all about getting a better base ,big numbers and so forth is huge.
    Oh making a living at what you love is priceless..that goes for any Idol..Kris Allan is happythat is a good thing..

  65. I guess don’t think smalll venues are as good at expanding the base..

    Even if I agreed with this statement, why does everything have to be so calculated? I’m sure one large reason Kris is performing his music whenever and wherever possible is for the sheer love of it, among other business-related reasons.

  66. I’m eagerly waiting videos of these performances! As an European fan of Kris I don’t think that I can catch Kris live soon, but I’ve enjoyed to seeing all these videos from Jingle Balls and other performances.

  67. Who said that the gigs aren’t resulting in sales? Unless people actually poll those buying the single or album, we don’t know who’s doing the buying, or what pushed them to buy the albums. We saw that after the New Year’s Eve performance that his cd sales and the single sales both got a boost. Things don’t happen over night, every thing that Kris is doing will have a cumulative effect. Getting his name out there, whether it’s via a TV appearance or at BB King’s is a way to make him known to people, who will recognize his name when they hear one of his songs on the radio, who may check out his songs on youtube, and they may or may not eventually translate into album buyers.

    I also don’t know what Adam has to do with this conversation, but it seems to me that both he and Kris have had their fair share of big events. I’m not sure how it would seem that Kris is doing small events when he’s been booked on Letterman, The Tonight Show, So You Think You Can Dance, and the Fox New Year’s Eve event to just name a few. Exactly how was that last one smaller than the Gridlock event that hardly received half of the media attention.

  68. Cute photo of the Allen brothers playing Beatles Rock band. Video games are obviously serious biz to Kris.

    DA4real
    http://twitpic.com/x2qj1 – Guitar Hero Masters.. Excuse Me! Beatles Rock Masters

  69. I guess don’t think smalll venues are as good at expanding the base..Hit songs or opening for others or others ways is better

    Well, sure, of course hit songs are better. But until you have one (and his is doing fine, not a #1 hit, but fine), you go out and you do your thing and you take the opportunities that you are given to get new ears to listen to your music. And he isn’t on tour yet so he may still open for someone. For now, it’s good for him to get experience playing in a variety of places, get more comfortable with and maybe tweak his music while he plays it (whether his band is there or not), and just get more people to listen.

  70. Was just coming here to post that cilady. Yeah, this definitely looks like a pretty big crowd he’s playing for. Looks like it’s a gig for Sony, one of the big players at the convention. Cool.

  71. I almost went to CES but had to withdraw at the last minutes. 3 vans full of engineers and managers drove there from San Diego this morning.

    None of my co-workers watch AI so they would not know who Kris Allen is. I am dying to hear if they end up watching any entertainment while at the convention, and if they happened to catch Kris. IMO, any exposure is a good exposure.

    CES is not exactly a kind of place that Kris would be mobbed by his screaming female fans, and I am sure that I could have gotten to the front row to watch up close and personal, making my cheer count. Now I am really sorry that I had to stay back and work instead :( I don’t know if there is a next time that I can see Kris like that.

  72. I guess don’t think smalll venues are as good at expanding the base..

    Considering that BB King’s club is in Vegas and on the strip, there is no reason to believe that the concert won’t attract new people. But, even if the only people who are there are those who are already fans of Kris’, that would be fine since just in the last two months the majority of his performances have been in front of larger audiences, and audiences who are not totally comprised of those fans from idol:
    The Bosom Ball, various Jingle Balls, apperances on late night and morning tv shows, So You Think You Can Dance, the Disney Parade, and the new year’s eve event, performing for the people who run the second most radio stations in the country when he performed at the Cumulus Christmas party, and now this convention. So, based on my math, we have 1 event at BB King’s that may be filled with fans, and over a dozen where he was able to perform is front of an audience of people who are not his hardcore fans. Seems like a good ratio to me.

  73. Isn’t Gaga performing at this same event. I jus do not follow this logic. Playing at BB King’s is not small!!! Many big names play there. To be asked back after a week is great!!

  74. I guess don’t think smallvenues are as good at expanding the base

    I think playing small venues is better than playing for no one… and lately Adam Lampbert has fallen under the latter category.

    Anyway, good for Kris. He’s working his ass off and getting his name out there. That crowd at CES doesn’t look too small, either.

  75. And play shows that have 200-300 people watching? Why? I think Oprah is in California right now filming segments for the show on Tuesday. Oprah’s viewership is in the range of 7 to 8 million. Maybe he should be there for the Oprah team and be preparing for this golden opportunity.

    The other gig (convention show) is a better opportunity. Where are they going to have a show for 100,000 people? What place is big enough to hold a group this big? I’d love to see some details on this.

    Say what you will about Kris’ “smaller gigs” and how it’s less significant than a televised one, but this events actually serves a double purpose. The more gigs Kris does the more practice he gets for when he actually tours. Kris fans (me included) have seen the remarkable improvement.

  76. More pictures of Kris performing on the Sony CES stage

    http://twitpic.com/x47fo

    All those cameras! We’d better get video of this event, js.

    Thanks Cilady… the place looks packed! me happy

  77. Here’s one tweet:

    SunnyLu23: Kris Allen performing at Sony booth. Great sound. Lady Gaga to perform later!
    1 minute ago from txt

    One tweeter mentioned that Kris and Cale performed Heartless.

  78. can’t edit my comment. I meant to say that the CES venue looks BIG and packed.

    Kris is going to work his ass off to establish more and more himself and band

  79. Where will Kris be next week? The publicists should give him the gold record he’s getting for LLWD at that gig. Unless, they’re hoping the song has enough legs to go plat.

    Nice thought, but though LLWD will cross the 500k-sold mark this week, there won’t be time for it to be certified Gold by the RIAA yet. Certification isn’t automatic – it requires application by the label and an audit process before plaques can be issued. I’d be willing to bet they give it to him when he performs on Idol the first time in March or April. Even if they expect it to hit platinum eventually, Jive should spring for the gold cert now so he can have that moment on the big stage. It also helps Idol cement the reputation of producing successful recording artists amongst their winners. Win win.

  80. Wow, cool pics from the CES event – that looks like a pretty nice crowd. And probably a good number of random people who are… new ears. New ears are good :)

  81. Mention Las Vegas and the uninitiated thinks of big sparkly stage settings and big shows for lots of people. And this is not what Kris is doing. He is singing at a restaurant that provides entertainment when at BB Kings. And, none of us know what type of gig he is doing while at the convention….but until I hear otherwise I will assume it is also a small intimate show.

    LOL, who cares what the uninitiated think the gig is like, the only thing that matters is what the people at the concerts think. And, you might want to check out all of the acts that have performed at the Blues Club. It’s funny that I haven’t read once where you said that you’ve been to this club, yet you talk about it as if you are knowledgeable about its size, history, and Kris’ actual performance.

  82. No one’s commented on the AJ in the Morning audio? Listen all the way till the end. The DJs weren’t too impressed with Kris. They felt he wasn’t rising to meet the occasion of the radio interview as important exposure career work. Their overall impression was that he was tired and was just barely shuffling through the interview, not really listening or paying much attention. I can’t disagree. And BTW, I don’t think they were shock jocks out for blood.

  83. I guess Kris will just have to be content playing music that he wrote/loves at awesome venues to a happy fans and having a hit song getting major airplay. Sounds like a recipe for success to me.

  84. I’d be willing to bet they give it to him when he performs on Idol the first time in March or April.

    That would be awesome. Idol’s a good place for presenting the hardware… and good for Idol’s bragging rights, too, that their artists are doing so well.

  85. LOL, who cares what the uninitiated think the gig is like, the only thing that matters is what the people at the concerts think.

    I don’t *really* think that anyone was thinking Kris suddenly had his own super Vegas mega show anyway…

  86. Forgot to mention, another good thing about these events, just like the Jingle Balls, is that Kris is making good contacts. He’s meeting other artists, industry insiders (program directors, djs, etc.), and people who can help his career. Obviously he made a good impression on the people at B.B. King’s, and I’m sure there are a lot of high level people at CES who he will meet, and who can help him make more contacts.

    Listing Kris’ gigs, I forgot to mention his two concerts in the Phillippines. That doesn’t seem small to me. Kris is going to do small, big, medium sized, national, local, and every other type of event that there is. That’s what everyone does, it’s how a person builds a career. Doing The Tonight Show or The Today show is just as important as doing a local radio event.

  87. Why am I so surprised at the pics we are getting from the Electronics show………like this crowd wouldn’t have every gadget possible for making sure the rest of us get in on the fun. Yea for them and I am sure there will be videos too.

  88. Where have all our visitors gone to. I was just about to serve them with the awesome pics of Kris MF Allen and they’re gone. Oh snap!
    Anyway we enjyed the ompany of people from some planet, errr what is it even called? Someone remind me please.

  89. And BTW, I don’t think they were shock jocks out for blood.

    Interesting. I listened to it online when it originally aired, and before Kris came on, they were saying how Adam, their San Diego boy, should have won, and wondering whether they should tell Kris that when they got him on the phone. So, yeah.

    I do agree that Kris could have been more awake for the interview. But, he handled all the questions just fine. He misunderstood their very last question and they decided to be asses about it. Not atypical for morning DJs, sadly.

  90. partial set list from Kris’ convention show performance

    Man in the Mirror
    Before We Come Undone
    Heartless

  91. movin2thabeet
    01/07/2010 at 6:32 pm
    No one’s commented on the AJ in the Morning audio? Listen all the way till the end. The DJs weren’t too impressed with Kris. They felt he wasn’t rising to meet the occasion of the radio interview as important exposure career work. Their overall impression was that he was tired and was just barely shuffling through the interview, not really listening or paying much attention. I can’t disagree. And BTW, I don’t think they were shock jocks out for blood. ___ movin2thabeet

    I heard about the San Diego interview and most people who heard the interview couldn’t understand the DJs’ comments. Kris has always been respectful to DJs, hell to everyone, so I take it all with a grain of salt. Kris makes no bones about letting these DJs know if they’re treading on thin ice. When one dude called Danny Gokey a jerk/douche, Kris called him out for it. I heard they asked if he was going to be at a porn convention or something of that nature. I’m sure another case of DJs trying to look cool. One miss out of a hunder and one hits. They’ll still play his single. As I said, not sure what radio station, but didn’t Kris do a jingle ball in San Diego and was very well recieved? I heard Kris has many fans in San Diego. No need to worry about it, Movin2thabeet. I think he’ll survive this okay.

  92. LadyM: I agree, Kris should get the hardware for LLWD going gold when he’s back on Idol, presumably debuting his next single, hopefully not till March. Makes everybody look good.

    jpfan: thanks for the reminder that whatever anyone thinks of Kris’ gigs this week, he’s about to mark what I hope is one of many exciting milestones in his career: A shiny new gold single! He’s done the hard work over the past few months to get to this point; he should enjoy it wherever he is next Wednesday when sales are announced. I’m sure Jive will see to it.

  93. Before We Come Undone

    Oh, I’m glad he’s singing this as I’m back on #teambwcu

  94. New fan:

    laurenjrivera: Kris Allen live and acoustic doing covers, would totally buy this album.
    6 minutes ago from TwitterBerry

    I hope she doesn’t expect to get album full of acoustic songs…

  95. Reminder:

    Don’t tell posters what to do! Stick to the subject. Complaining about the thread, bitching out fellow posters, will earn you a spot in moderation.

    Also stating that you won’t take the bait means you took it. DON’T COMMENT ON THE THREAD. Again, stick to the topic.

  96. jts323
    01/07/2010 at 6:17 pm
    Isn’t Gaga performing at this same event. I jus do not follow this logic. Playing at BB King’s is not small!!! Many big names play there. To be asked back after a week is great!!

    I guess Lady Gaga must think this is a worthwhile venue if she’s performing there as well. That’s very cool! I agree performing at BB King’s is also a cool thing. Nice that he was asked back!

  97. Tess

    I think evanjane meant Lady Gaga was performing at the electronics show convention

  98. Isn’t Gaga performing at this same event. I jus do not follow this logic. Playing at BB King’s is not small!!! Many big names play there. To be asked back after a week is great!!

    I guess Lady Gaga must think this is a worthwhile venue if she’s performing there as well. That’s very cool! I agree performing at BB King’s is also a cool thing. Nice that he was asked back!

    She might also think it’s a good idea to network with the bigwigs at Sony, and some of the other organizers who can play a large role in her career.

    Every event that a performer does can open up doors for them to do more things. Doing Jingle Balls can get Program Directors to support and artists music, it can also lead to artists on the same bill working together. And doing these types of events that are sponsored by people who play a large part in how music is distributed is a big deal.

  99. Reminder:

    Let’s back off the fanwar and stick to the subject. Why are we even talking about Adam in this thread?

  100. Thank you girlygirl, that’s correct. I really wasn’t even aware of this convention. I was thrilled to read that Lady Gaga was performing there as well. I hope that’s true. ::very pleased::

  101. I agree, Kris should get the hardware for LLWD going gold when he’s back on Idol, presumably debuting his next single, hopefully not till March. Makes everybody look good.

    As far as the certification process goes, would The Script & their producers also get one as the writers & producers?

    How many times would Kris be invited back to AI9 perform? I would imagine once for sure (like DC) as a final bow to hand over the crown, maybe Idol Gives back show.

  102. How many times would Kris be invited back to AI9 perform? I would imagine once for sure (like DC) as a final bow to hand over the crown, maybe Idol Gives back show.

    I think David came back twice, and if they stick with the hour long results shows, that’s what I would expect for Kris. He’s sure to come back and perform the second single, and then come back for the finale. Given his history with humanitarian causes, I’m pretty sure that he will have a hand in Idol Gives Back, too.

  103. I heard about the San Diego interview and most people who heard the interview couldn’t understand the DJs’ comments. Kris has always been respectful to DJs, hell to everyone, so I take it all with a grain of salt. Kris makes no bones about letting these DJs know if they’re treading on thin ice. When one dude called Danny Gokey a jerk/douche, Kris called him out for it. I heard they asked if he was going to be at a porn convention or something of that nature. I’m sure another case of DJs trying to look cool.

    I listened to this interview on my way in to work this morning and the DJ’s were complete tools. All nice to him on the phone but then totally dissed him the minute he hung up.

    Kris admitted to them he had just woke up, so yes, he had a little extra chill vibe, but he was attentive to their questions and answered each one fully and completely, even remembering both parts of a two part question without having to be reminded what the question was.

    And no, they didn’t play his song, either before or after the interview. The played a clip of his song before the interview, that’s it. Unless it was like 5 minutes afterwards, which would be odd, since it usually happens right at the end, or in the middle. This is a station that has not added his song so I doubt they ever play it, but if he’s doing promo there, maybe they’re close to adding it?

  104. You know I’m not much of a fan of Kris’s, but every performer takes crappy gigs once in a while. I don’t know if this is one of them or not..however they all do them. It’s part of selling and promoting. I recall Adam did a private gig during or right after tour. Many non-fans snickered about it and now Kris is getting is turn, as I am sure that Cook, daughtry, carrie, kelly, etc. have done their fair share. This type of stuff goes on ALL the time, especially over seas. Celebs do product promotions, etc. We just don’t see much of it. I worked at one time organizing events such as this. There are often small, med, and big names that come to convention as entertainment. We generally don’t hear about it because it isn’t publicly advertised.

  105. koshka

    This definitely isn’t a crappy gig. Taylor Swift and Lady Gaga are both there. And the convention draws about 200,000 people to it. Obviously, Kris isn’t playing in front of anywhere near 200,000 here, but it is a good sized crowd. And there are a LOT of men at this convention — something you don’t necesarily see during AI tour stops. It’s also a wide range of age ranges at this convention, since electronic gadgets appeal to young people and old people alike.

  106. People over on ontd_ai are joking about Kris “opening” for Jimi Hendrix — because after he finished his set, Sony showed a 3D video of Hendrix playing at Woodstock

    EDIT – even Kris!

    KrisAllen

    #Just opened up for Hendrix.
    27 minutes ago from Echofon

  107. Sorry if I’ve missed something along these lines elsewhere in the comments. But folks, the CES show is HUGE. It’s a massive electronics/technology convention that takes place in Vegas every year. These people are smart, technologically sophisticated people (think iPhone, iTunes, Wii, and a million other things) and probably a lot of music lovers too — a great audience/honor for Kris! And if Gaga is there too, you know it’s BIG. Great job Kris, way to get yourself out there and show everyone how AWESOME your new music is. Love you!

  108. I guess don’t think smalll venues are as good at expanding the base..

    Las Vegas is great for expanding one’s fan base because most people there are tourists. They go back home, which means all over the country, and spread the word that they liked a show. It’s great exposure.

    (Same thing with conventions.)

    Also, anywhere someone like Kris plays these days there is usually video. Look at the Hit Me Baby video of the performance he did at that girls’ school a while ago. It was all over the internet.

    I guess I don’t think it’s possible to generalize. I like that Kris is working hard and getting his music out there. Whether it’s big gigs or small, the more you do, the more people see and hear you.

  109. Las Vegas is great for expanding one’s fan base because most people who are there are tourists. They go back home, all over the country, and spread the word that they liked a show they saw. It’s great exposure.

    The people at the convention are going to check out free entertainment, and the people on the strip are going to check out as many shows as they can. Not everyone at both events will know who Kris is, since they are in Vegas they are looking to have fun and be entertained.

  110. I guess I don’t think it’s possible to generalize. I like that Kris is working hard and getting his music out there. Whether it’s big gigs or small, the more you do, the more people see and hear you.

    agree Ross

  111. Great to hear that Kris is playing today and tomorrow! These private gigs like the CES usually pay well, too, so it should help keep 19 happy. There was a list going around last year that listed rates for Idol alumni for private shows. Maybe someone else still has it. I think it ranged from ~$2,000 for Kim Caldwell to ~$300,000 for Carrie Underwood. Obviously Kris would be somewhere in between, but the winners all had some of the highest rates, particularly while they’re still the reigning Idol.

    Private performances aren’t usually announced to the public, unless it’s a benefit show, so the CES gig may well have been set up first. We only know about some of David Cook’s private shows because someone blogged or tweeted about it afterward, and I’m sure there are some the public never finds out about.

  112. The CES convention is not open to the general public. It’s a huge Consumer Electronics Show for people in the electronics industry.

    My dh has gone to this show for as long as I can remember.

    It’s great to see all the people in the audience because that is really not a typical Idol audience at all. I think Kris & Cale look like they are impressing the audience & that’s a great thing.

    The DJ’s from San Diego acted like asses on air. It’s one thing for them to still be for their hometown boy & another thing to talk the way they did before & after talking to Kris.

    I do find it funny that Adam’s fans thought his playing Gridlock was such a better gig than Kris on TV NYE. I think it’s great they are both getting to work at an entertainment career. It will be nice when they can stop being compared by their fans.

  113. Taylor Swift and Lady Gaga are both there.

    My point exactly.. every entertainer at some point is selling, promoting or endorsing something – and doing small or large gigs to do it.

  114. I do find it funny that Adam’s fans thought his playing Gridlock was such a better gig than Kris on TV NYE. I think it’s great they are both getting to work at an entertainment career. It will be nice when they can stop being compared by their fans.

    Adam got to be the headliner in a show that played live to over 4,500 people. The tickets started at $150 and went way, way up. He was able to play a 10 song set in front of family, friends, fans and new listeners. From all accounts it was an incredible show.

    Kris sang two songs. He was on national TV and it seemed to give him a SMALL bump in album sales. (but he still had a huge drop)

    I don’t know which gig was “better”. They both gained experience and exposure.

  115. I don’t know if anyone has mentioned this. Something I think is cool about Kris playing B. B. King’s Blues Club is simply that it is a blues club. Looking at the various B. B. King’s establishments around the country, I notice most of the performers are blues artists. The fact that the audience at a blues club enjoys Kris and his band (or Kris solo) makes me happy. It says something about Kris as an artist. He’s obviously not “boy band” as some people used to say about him. And he’s not an autotuned pop singer. His stuff is real and earthy enough to appeal to that kind of audience.

  116. The fact that the audience at a blues club enjoys Kris and his band (or Kris solo) makes me happy. It says something about Kris as an artist.

    ross, I had the same thought — I like the kinda soulful vibe that Kris has, I’d love to see him in a blues club/small venue setting.

  117. I think I’d be fine with singing two songs in front of a national TV audience.
    I doubt very seriously that it was going to stop Kris from experiencing the same huge drops that everyone else did, and I’m sure it had an effect on the number of singles he sold, but the main thing was the mass exposure, which Kris and every other artist needs.

    Every event helps, whether it’s big or small. This is not a case of a national event being better than a small event.

  118. It’s great to see all the people in the audience because that is really not a typical Idol audience at all. I think Kris & Cale look like they are impressing the audience & that’s a great thing.

    I think these shows are great for a number of reasons, one of which is the fact that you’re right it’s not really the typical Idol audience crowd.. lots of guys in that audience. They are meeting people and making connections in the entertainment field. Even though it’s the technical side it’s still the entertainment industry. Every connection that they make at this point is someone that has potential to help them down the road. They all have to network and this is just a huge opportunity.

    The DJ’s from San Diego acted like asses on air. It’s one thing for them to still be for their hometown boy & another thing to talk the way they did before & after talking to Kris.

    Totally agree. I have no respect for them. They were losers. Common courtesy and morning radio… sometimes do not reside on the same plane of reality though.

  119. I have a really good idea of what it was like for Kris, for Cook, for Daughtry, for the guys who were playing local gigs and gigs at bars and small clubs (sometimes to only the janitor – been there, lol). I guess that makes me root for them even more when they do get that big break because NONE of the bands I knew in our heyday have made it. None. And there was some serious talent here, and these kids worked hard.

    Well said tierbee! Reading some of the comments, and I’m only back on pg. 3, I think what some don’t understand is that the excitement surrounding Kris doing these gigs is not the size or the glamor associated (or not) with them, but the fact that Kris is getting the opportunity to do what he was born to do. My take is that Kris was born to do music. I’ve said this about David Cook as well. This is a quality in them that I recognize because I’m married to someone who is the same.

    I say that music is at the core of who these people are in life. I’m thrilled to follow the careers of these guys who can do this full time for a living, and I’m thrilled to be able to watch and listen to them.

    I also believe that Kris fans do not need any kind of grounding or realism. Nobody is more grounded about Kris than his fans, (well maybe Kris himself, lol). We watch and listen and hope and cheer at every opportunity for him to not only get to do what he does best, but to know that there are others out there that will do the same once they get to see him.

  120. Something I think is cool about Kris playing B. B. King’s Blues Club is simply that it is a blues club.

    I thought the same thing when the first show was announced, and being brought back for a 2nd show so quickly is even better. I’m thrilled that Kris is getting some love from a blues crowd.

    He’s obviously not “boy band” as some people used to say about him. And he’s not an autotuned pop singer. His stuff is real and earthy enough to appeal to that kind of audience.

    And he’s not a country artist either. Not that there’s anything wrong with any of those styles, but, to me, Kris’ influences are clearly much more jazz/blues/funk/classic rock (The Beatles, for example) than country or pop.

  121. cookcricket.. I agree completely with everything you said. I am excited for Kris no matter what gig he is doing, because he seems to be so happy being able to perform for people. Plus like he has said over and over, his life is 100% different than it was last year and he is enjoying the ride. I think he will be just fine.

  122. Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I tend to think Kris was booked at CES first and then decided to add the BBK gig, but what does it matter? CES is a huge convention and judging by the twitpix a large number of people are experiencing Kris’ performance. BBK holds almost 600, so not exactly tiny, but also a great place for an artist to work on his/her craft. To me it’s all good.

  123. ross
    01/07/2010 at 8:24 pm
    I don’t know if anyone has mentioned this. Something I think is cool about Kris playing B. B. King’s Blues Club is simply that it is a blues club. Looking at the various B. B. King’s establishments around the country, I notice most of the performers are blues artists. The fact that the audience at a blues club enjoys Kris and his band (or Kris solo) makes me happy. It says something about Kris as an artist.

    This makes me very happy too. Thank you for pointing it out.

    I’m with those who see similarities between Kris and Cookie. If neither of them ever sell out a stadium, that will be a-ok with me. I don’t think stadiums are the best venue for them. But I do think that their chances at longevity are the best of any Idols so far.

  124. Ross:
    The fact that the audience at a blues club enjoys Kris and his band (or Kris solo) makes me happy. It says something about Kris as an artist.

    Tierbee:
    I had the same thought — I like the kinda soulful vibe that Kris has, I’d love to see him in a blues club/small venue setting.

    Totally agree with you and it’s a reason for which I love Kris so much

  125. Wow – I absolutely love the Fally Slowly/With or Without you mashup – so beautiful and touching. It sounded like the crowd loved it too. I wish I could attend some of these events.

  126. Thanks for the video link girlygirl. It’s nice how the projector introduced Kris as “Jive Recording Artist”, rather than “AI winner” or something. Small nitpicky detail but still. :)

    Oh, and WTG Kris for the CES gig. I agree that it’s a nice way to expose him a different demographic. Now, if only we can get these gadget geeks squeeing and thudding soon… :P

  127. Wow – I absolutely love the Fally Slowly/With or Without you mashup – so beautiful and touching. It sounded like the crowd loved it too. I wish I could attend some of these events.

    Yes it is!! Me too!

  128. Any day with a Falling Slowly performance in it is a good one.

    Thanks for the link, tripp_ncwy!

  129. The cool thing about the Falling slowly video is how quiet the audience is . . . for almost 5 minutes. You see a video from a David Archuleta or David Cook concert and it’s noisy because the people, although huge fans, are talking to each other during the songs. Here–the audience isn’t necessarily fans–they’re just mesmerized by the music.

  130. The MITM performance is awesome too! I just watched his original performance of MITM way back when we first saw him in Group 2. He has come a long way since then (and has more spiky hair LOL). How convenient that that Kris was performing in the SONY hall where every current video recording technology is probably at the tips of everyone’s fingers.

  131. Wait a minute… it was supposedly better for Adam to play the non-televised Gridlock NYE event than the TELEVISED Billboard NYE show that Kris did. Now all of a sudden it’s better for Adam to be playing a TELEVISED show than to be playing at a non-televised event such as Kris’s at the BB King gig Friday night. Ahhhhhhh, I get it.

    Ok, now I’m going back to read the rest of this thread!

  132. Eileen99
    01/07/2010 at 6:53 pm
    Before We Come Undone

    Oh, I’m glad he’s singing this as I’m back on #teambwcu

    Me too! As much as I LOVE to see him perform CSA, I was thinking that BWCU would be a much easier song to sing, and I think it’s good for radio too. CSA has such a cute funky vibe to it, but it sounds like it would be a hard song to sing…after having sung LLWD a million times, I think he needs a break! :grin:

  133. girlygirl
    01/07/2010 at 6:31 pm

    RayHartjen

    Kris Allen live on the #sonyces stage http://twitpic.com/x47fo less than a minute ago from Echofon

    It makes me smile seeing older men in that pic seems to be video recording Kris’ performance!!! :)

  134. Liked the Falling Slowly video…that is such a beautiful song and Kris sings it with such feeling…you can tell he really connected to the meaning of the song. I recall seeing this song performed on the Oscars and amongst the other songs sung with all the dancers and choreography, this song was the one that moved me to tears with just the artists on stage doing such a heartfelt rendition. And, that is what Kris does for me when I hear him interpret a song. He just oozes the meaning of the song.

    I am glad that he is being exposed to a new type of audience and hopefully opening doors for him as well. And, it can’t be a bad gig if Lady Gaga and Taylor Swift are also performing these given that they are at the top of the music industry right now…not bad company to be in.

  135. Never get tired of hearing Kris perform this — such passion, such musical intelligence. he’s getting more and more polished on stage too…

  136. I wish Kris had Falling Slowly in his album as well…. Just love it so much and almost bring me to tears every time I hear him singing it…

  137. colette
    01/08/2010 at 12:25 am
    Never get tired of hearing Kris perform this — such passion, such musical intelligence. he’s getting more and more polished on stage too…

    ITA.

    The interviews were kinda fun, but the DJs in San Diego were pretty rude. Guess what? He didn't!

  138. On the Falling Slowly video, there’s a mighty big camera on the side filming the whole thing. I hope we will see the footage somewhere..

  139. Oh yeah MT Fan – that would be a great video if its released!!!

    Thanks for all the video links!! Sounds like Kris & Cale were well received!!

  140. You can see a picture of Kris’ album on the wall in the last twitpic above. I hope that helps in advertising his album to those at this concert.

    No one’s mentioned him singing LLWD yet? Surely he sang that, too?! I really want to hear BWCU. In yesterday’s sales thread, windmills called it a “deceptive song that sounds like it could be a hit, but won’t be”. I’m still thinking about that–there was no discussion on it. I like the song. A lot. What do y’all think? I love his voice on it and enjoyed it when he and KAB performed it in Miami. I hope there’s video of it from this concert or tomorrow night at BBKings.

  141. Judes! I answered you in the old BBKings thread–check it out!

  142. In yesterday’s sales thread, windmills called it a “deceptive song that sounds like it could be a hit, but won’t be”. I’m still thinking about that–there was no discussion on it. I like the song. A lot. What do y’all think?

    I agree with windmills about BWCU.

    Except I never thought it sounds like it could be a hit. It’s a weak song for radio, I think. I don’t think it has any hook. I don’t think the lyrics are especially easy to remember.

    Also it’s more AC than anything. It would never get played on pop radio and probably not a lot on HAC.

  143. Hoosiermama, I did just check that dead thread. So I was right about both the Indiana “Hoosiers” and the “Who’s your Mama?” Very clever. hehe

    In yesterday’s sales thread, windmills called it a “deceptive song that sounds like it could be a hit, but won’t be”. I’m still thinking about that–there was no discussion on it. I like the song. A lot. What do y’all think?

    ITA. Definately not my top pick for next single. I wish, I wish, I wish “The Truth” was a co-write from Kris. I soooo can hear it on the radio. Maybe we should ask Pat Moynaham (sp) to just throw Kris a bone and call it a co-write… Pfffttttt

  144. Jammbasich–good to catch you too! Yes, I’m such a clever person (not!)!

    I wish, I wish, I wish “The Truth” was a co-write from Kris. I soooo can hear it on the radio. Maybe we should ask Pat Moynaham (sp) to just throw Kris a bone and call it a co-write… Pfffttttt

    LOL I wish it was a co-write, too! So many people have said TT sounds more like a radio hit than other songs on Kris’ album (such as the “deceptive” BWCU), that I was just trying to get a sense of why that is. It seems harder for him to sing. Is it your pick for the next single?

    ross, if you don’t think BWCU has a good hook, do you think TT does?

  145. “Yes, judes and jammbasich, the Hoosiers are the team name for Indiana University (where two of my sons go). Indiana is also known as the Hoosier State, but there is no definitive explanation for exactly what “hoosier” means. I picked it as my name because I live in Indiana, I’m a mama, and I thought it sounded fun (because of the “who’s your mama” reference)!”

    Thanks Hoosier – bought your answer over for jammbasich as well!! [ Oh I see you beat me to it!!]

    Yes people have called Hey Jude to me most of my life but I mostly have Judes as my name as there were too many Judy’s on the internet & so it was taken – also have Ausjude on AI site – due to the Aussie connection!!!

    Hope a BWCU video is found as I love this song & the parts with Kris’s low voice!!

  146. ross, if you don’t think BWCU has a good hook, do you think TT does?

    Yes, though it’s not my favorite song on the album. I’ve said a lot that my vote for the next single is Alright With Me.

    I can’t explain my reactions to songs very well. But a lot of people think LLWD is a cool, contemporary, “young” song, and it doesn’t sound like everythng else on the radio. I think that’s one reason it has taken off.

    Kris is going to get the most attention by doing music that reflects his unique style and personality. He won’t get ahead if his songs blend in to whatever else is on the radio. LLWD does not blend in to what I hear on my Top 40 station at all, yet it seems to be a hit.

    I think it would be great if he goes with the song he really likes (AWM). I like it, too, and I just feel it will be a hit.

  147. I’ve said a lot that my vote for the next single is Alright With Me.

    I use Alright With Me to wake up my kids in the morning… put it on the iPod dock, crank it up, and they dance out of bed, lol. I had it on in the car and even hubby was bobbing his head – there is something irresistible about that song.

  148. I’ll choose WAOMF or AWM over The TRUTH any day. The truth could come in after the second single and I agree with ross that LLWD did well because it’s different from everything you hear on radio these days and people want a breath of fresh air. That is why I love WAOMF. I know people will talk about The Script and co-write but at the moment, he needs to get a hit to be able to remain relevant and WAOMF was written but never been sang by anyone.
    If and when he has hit it big on radio, they could release one of his co-writes. I bet you all the non cowrites on the album are considered potential hits by Jive that’s why they are on there but I think The TRUTH is not good for now. He needs something unique to be able to hit faster than LLWD did and to drive album sales.

  149. Really cute that older men are video-ing Kris!
    Also totally agree that the venue/demographic of this convention are great exposure for Kris. The men I know really like the whole acoustic thing — they like to see male performers who are musicians as well as singers, and the “chill” persona of is something else they like (i.e. Jack Johnson). So Kris fits that like a glove.

  150. hoosiermama, I LOVE BWCU. I just mentioned this somewhere yesterday…in another thread or maybe it was on my FB group. I stay up waaaaayyy too late lately, so who knows! :grin: I’m sure everyone remembers that I have wanted CSA to be the next single for a long time. But I was listening to CSA and BWCU last night in the car, and it seems like CSA would be a hard song to sing (like LLWD), so I think BWCU would be great. I think the chorus is incredibly catchy, and it’s just beautiful. One of my favorite songs is Everything I Do. It was a huge hit, was it not? I think BWCU could be too, but what do I know? :wink: An interesting observation: idolforums has 3 or 4 songs listed for the next single, and they do not even mention AWM, AWM being one of the 3 songs mentioned in this group for the next single. Kinda strange.

    I was hoping for more videos this morning. :sad:

    Another interesting observation. My co-worker who is an AI fan loves Kris (although she never votes and never buys CDs :shock:). She saw Kris on NYE and said she didn’t like either song. She liked the kind of music he did on idol. So maybe he needs to showcase another “slower” song this time for fans like her. ?? Just a thought.

  151. why I could not fine Kris is listed in 2010 CES Celebrity Appearances?

    http://www.cesweb.org/events/celebrities.asp

    Did I miss something?

    It’s listed on the Sony CES site.

    Under “Sony CES 2010”, click on “See”. Then, click the “Vidoes” tab. A bunch of bubbles will start floating around the screen. Pick the one that has the picture of Kris Allen (you can watch his video and find out about how he uses technology). He’s also listed on their schedule on that site.

  152. I received an email from SONY this morning about the CES event. I clicked on the link and chose the option to “See It Now” and there were all of these little bubbles floating around on the site. Of course most of the bubbles were for SONY technology, but one had Kris Allen’s face on it, so I clicked it, and there was a very short interview with an option to listen to his LLWD video. I thought this was kind of cool. Here is the link (hope it works):

    http://www.sony.com/index.php?hero=ces&XID=E:ces2010:sel_ces_email:networking_banner

  153. Thanks for the feedback, peeps.

    Written All Over My Face was on the sticker on the album, wasn’t it, along with The Truth? Not that is a sure thing for a future single, but it must mean JIVE thinks they’re stand-outs. I like WAOMF, too, especially since Kris has performed it sans guitar and it has a good chorus. The scratchy guitar sound on it is really cool and different. I know it’s a Script song, but if folks got over LLWD, I don’t think it would be a problem (especially since it’s not a cover). I think Katy even said it was one of her favorites on the album. Is it on the Hits Predictor list, too?

    I love AWM. That would be so fun to see Kris perform it on Idol (and as I said before, I want to see Simon singing along! Like that would happen!). I know Kris loves performing it which should count for something. But I don’t think it’s on Hits Predictor now.

    Listening to The Truth right now and it does have a grandiose swelling sound to it, it’s slower, and has a good chorus. It’s very different from LLWD. It is on Hits Predictor, so it must be in the running. I think Mama Allen said it was her favorite.

    YIKES! Obviously choosing the second single is not an easy task! It’s good I’m not in charge as I’m now totally confused about what would be best!!

  154. The problem is that slower songs normally don’t work on top40 so much unless you are a well known established artist. Kris is new and needs to hiit it on pop to be relevant. LLWD did the well but the next one should be an instant hit.
    I don’t think Kris is doing anything different from what he did on the show. He did only 3 ballads throughout the competition. The TRUTH is sort of a power ballad but it’s also difficult to sing and honestly, I don’t think Kris likes the song, that’s just me.
    I do like it a little more than CSA and it’s even faster than Kelly’s Aready Gone, but it comes back to who. They will play anything by Kelly on pop because she’s established the cred and that’s what Kris needs to do now. I think Jive knows best.

  155. Written All Over My Face and The Truith should NOT be the 2nd single — for the simple reason that neither was written or co-written by Kris. They should release something he wrote as the 2nd single

  156. The only people who care about whether or not Kris wrote a song are Kris’ fans and those who are fans of other AI contestants who didn’t win, and frankly, in the grand scheme of things both of these groups are small and insignificant. The feelings of these groups has not stopped LLWD from going gold, or from being embraced by the general public. People buy music because they like it, not because of who wrote it. Most people have no clue who wrote a song, in their mind, the song belongs to whoever is singing it. LLWD is Kris’ song, as are The Truth and WAOMF. Just like with LLWD, Jive should pick the song that they think will do the best on radio, and that will sell the best.

  157. Chasing Pavements – yea new cover. It’s always fun to hear something new.

    Written All Over My Face and The Truith should NOT be the
    second single — for the simple reason that neither was written or co-written by Kris. They should release something he wrote as the 2nd single

    I know, I know….. That’s why I said I wish Pat would just throw Kris a bone on that…. hehehe Def. should be a co-write.
    But Babebelle is right, the general public doesn’t care if it’s a co-write or not. We do cuz we know how important to Kris to get the respect of his peers, not to mention the $$.

    I still think it shoud be AWM – I think it would serve him best. It’s great live.. Someone posted once that WAOMF would be another “manic” song live. We certainly don’t want that…

    Funny we’re talking about the – again…

  158. On itunes this morning
    single #24
    album # 114

    Is that any better than yesterday???

    wow. ke$sha has 3 songs now up there. jeez

  159. girlygirl
    01/08/2010 at 10:27 am

    Written All Over My Face and The Truith should NOT be the 2nd single — for the simple reason that neither was written or co-written by Kris. They should release something he wrote as the 2nd single

    Sigh…I agree with this so very much, but after following David Cook and hoping so much that one of his co-writes would be the second single, my hopes are not very high for Kris to have a co-write for his second one.

    I loved the “Chasing Pavements” vid!! Yes, a Kris and Adele duet would be wonderful!!

    I do have to vent for a second though, I wish the Kradam fans would just ‘get over it’.

  160. cookcricket,
    I agree with you, the kradam fans, some are very sane like me. I just love both as talented artists but reading some of the insane things online these days, no I want Kris to move far away as possible. He already called them by the right name and I wouldn’t repeat it.

  161. I loved ‘chasing pavements’. Kris is so good :)

    Regarding the next single.. sigh.. it’s complicated.

  162. Yeah, the next single thing is complicated. On one hand, he gets more money from songs he writes, so… On the other, if people pop for the whole album based on a single he didn’t write, then he gets writing money for all those singles on the album, so… It works either way.

    I love LLWD and now I’m trusting Jive to pick a second good one, too. My faves at the moment are Alright With Me, Before we Come Undone and Let It Rain. Yeah, I know, but that one really sticks with me for some reason.

    Btw, has his entire set list from the CES been listed anywhere? I looked but didn’t see it. I hope that some of this stuff — especially Falling Slowly and Chasing Pavements — make the set lists for his concerts when he does them. Maybe he could co-headline with Adele. That? Would make my year.

  163. I love LLWD and now I’m trusting Jive to pick a second good one, too. My faves at the moment are Alright With Me, Before we Come Undone and Let It Rain.

    ITA with trusting Jive – they know a lot more about this than I do. I do LOVE AWM, but my husband (who likes Kris) says it sounds “hokey” and wouldn’t become a hit. Am I the only one who thinks “Is it Over” would become a hit? I absolutely love that song. I like many of his songs, including BWCU and LIR, but IIO is the one I keep coming back to, along with INTK (love that one too, but don’t think that would be a great choice).

  164. Am I the only one who thinks “Is it Over” would become a hit? I absolutely love that song. I like many of his songs, including BWCU and LIR, but IIO is the one I keep coming back to, along with INTK (love that one too, but don’t think that would be a great choice).

    IIO and INTK are my favorites, too. I guess neither of them would be good singles. :(

    I really don’t like WAOMF. I find the lyrics obnoxious and I don’t like the sound. I know it doesn’t matter what I like, what’s important is what the average radio listener likes. But, selfishly, I still hope it’s not WAOMF. Whenever LLWD comes on the radio, I’m still excited and happy, but if WAOMF came on, I’d be disappointed.

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