Idol Headlines for 10/26/09

Kris Allen Premieres New Songs At Miami Dolphins Tailgate Show

Last week, I had the honor of listening to seven unreleased songs from American Idol winner Kris Allen’s upcoming debut album (read my impressions here), then sitting down with Kris to discuss songwriting and recording process behind the tracks (watch parts one and two of that interview here). Now Kris has unveiled some of those new tunes at his first full post-Idol solo concert, Sunday afternoon at Florida’s Land Shark Stadium before a Miami Dolphins game.

And happily, Kris played my personal two favorite songs, the big pop crowd-pleaser “Before We Come Undone” and the funkily Maroon 5-ish “Can’t Stay Away, ” as well as an upbeat Script-associated groover, “Written All Over My Face”:

Yahoo.com

The scribbled note that changed TV

On Tuesday 13 February 2001 TV veteran Alan Boyd saw two men he had never met before in his London office and the meeting changed the face of Saturday night entertainment.

Nothing about the then head of Thames TV’s meeting with two Simons suggested that television history was in the making, or that he and his production team were about to benefit from an enormous stroke of luck. As Mr Cowell and Mr Fuller rattled through their idea for an ambitious new show to identify an unknown British singing star, Boyd scribbled notes on two sides of jotting paper during the hour-long meeting.

Guardian.co.uk

More Idol Headlines After The Jump…

Ryan Seacrest interview at Ronald McDonald House in Atlanta

Dunwoody High School grad Ryan Seacrest came back to his hometown Saturday to host the Hearts and Hands gala for Atlanta Ronald McDonald House Charities at the World of Coke. I caught up with him while he toured the year-old 50-room home near Emory University earlier in the day. (I attended a different charity event that night called Chopstix For Charity.)

AJC.com

Ralit: Sibling rage on ‘Top Chef, ‘ snot snuffling on ‘Top Model, ‘ weak fashions on ‘Runway, ‘ and granny panties on ‘DWTS’

On this week’s four-part Ralit, my cohost Kristen Baldwin and I discuss some of the most important debates facing our nation right this second. Who’d be the ultimate Top Chef final two: adorable Kevin and loveable Jennifer or Michael and Brian, brothers so competitive they might try to smother each other with Glad wrap? What’s a bigger hindrance toward still being in the running to become America’s Next Top Model: Having dyslexia or being a Kardashian? What’s a bigger offense on Project Runway: Creating hideous fashion or creating no fashion at all? And what was the most disturbing development last week on Dancing With the Stars: Natalie Coughlin’s granny panties, Michael Irvin’s butt-cheek shenanigans, or Louis van Amstel’s facial expressions?

Entertainment Weekly

Kris Allen Album Won’t Include Chris Daughtry, Mat Kearney Tracks

Just a few days after “American Idol” winner Kris Allen tweeted that he finished his self-titled major-label debut (and misses Nickelodeon’s “Doug, ” by the way), the full track listing for the November 17 album has been revealed.

While the debut had many musical cooks, according to the track listing obtained by Entertainment Weekly, it appears that songs co-written by fellow “Idol” alum Chris Daughtry, as well as those with singer/songwriter Mat Kearney, did not make the cut.

Kearney had previously told MTV News that the tune he was working on with Allen would rough up the squeaky-clean Conway, Arkansas, native’s image. “It’s driving … it has some edge to it, ” Kearney said earlier this month. “That may make it so they don’t want to [include it on the album].”

MTV

Review: Daughtry gets ‘A’ for effort

By now, Chris Daughtry’s fourth-place finish on ‘American Idol’  is ancient history. But it’s hard not to compare that 2006 snub with the rocking show he put on at the Civic Center on Sunday night.

Daughtry, whose ‘Leave This Town’  tour included opening bands Cavo and Theory of a Deadman, was in fine form from the moment he kicked off his set with ‘Every Time You Turn Around.’ 

He seemed to push his voice to the limit on every song – howling away on ballads like ‘It’s Not Over’  and ‘No Surprise.’ 

PJStar

Jammin’ with his Friends

The award for coolest friends definitely goes to David Foster.

The songwriter-producer has some of the most celebrated artists in the music business on his speed dial, and he’s rounded up a handful for a 10-city tour that stopped at the Agganis Arena last night.

During the nearly three-hour experience, the Hit Man acted as host, pianist and band conductor while unveiling some of his career highlights to a small crowd of about 2, 000.

bostonherald.com

David Foster brings friends to Newark for hit-filled concert

The tour is called “David Foster and Friends.” And after more than 30 years as one of the pop world’s most successful songwriter-producers, Foster has plenty of friends to call on.

Peter Cetera (formerly of Chicago) and Philip Bailey (of Earth, Wind and Fire) were there when the tour hit the Prudential Center in Newark, Saturday. So were Deborah Cox, “American Idol” alumni Ruben Studdard and Michael Johns, and the quartet, the Canadian Tenors. But the closing slot went to a woman who has not released an album in the United States yet: Charice, a 17-year-old from the Philippines who is well known her own country, and is being mentored by Foster for worldwide stardom.

NJ.com

Andrew Lloyd Webber Battling CancerAndrew Lloyd Webber Battling Cancer

Uber-composer/producer Andrew Lloyd Webber has prostate cancer. “Andrew is undergoing treatment and expects to be fully back to work before the end of the year, ” his spokesperson said in a statement.

The mind behind such mega stage musical hits as The Phantom of the Opera and Cats, Lloyd Webber was an American Idol “mentor” in October, 2008 but later said he thought Simon Cowell preferred to “torture” the contestants rather than motivate them.

Radaronline.com

Lisa Tucker interview for ‘American Idol Rewind, ‘ my new Twitter account

Please start following me on Twitter at www.twitter.com/ajcidol! I just created the account.

TV Guide Channel’s ‘American Idol Rewind’  offered up a bunch of season six ‘Idols’  for me to talk to. I already caught up with Paris Bennett and posted that interview earlier this month. I really wanted to gab with Katharine McPhee but her publicist never bothered to reach out to me. (If you happen to read this, Kat McPhee’s publicist, my email is rho@ajc.com!)

I only chose Lisa Tucker, who finished tenth, because she is working with Atlanta’s own Ne-Yo. Bottom line: she’s sweet and young and still trying to finish an album more than three years after her spotlight had dimmed. Unfortunately, Lisa’s the only person in the top 10 of her season to not release an album.

AJC.com

Moses and Simon Cowell: teenagers vote for leaders

Martin Luther King, Moses and Simon Cowell are three of our all-time greatest leaders, according to today’s teenagers. England footballer John Terry, Gurkha champion Joanna Lumley and business guru Lord Sugar also made the top 10. X Factor judge Cowell won the same percentage of the vote as Mother Teresa and Henry VIII, in the survey commissioned by the Prince’s Trust. Barack Obama and Nelson Mandela came in the top three with King. According to the survey, 70% of teenagers say they are more likely be inspired by someone they know than by a celebrity.

Guardian.co.uk

Josh Groban Planning Return to GLEE

Josh Groban has revealed to Access Hollywood that he’ll be returning to GLEE to do one more episode. “I had a great time with that cast, coming from a theater background, ” he said. “It’s so nIce To see so many theater actors being hired for mainstream television. And also, being a member of the choir club as a kid, just to see that group of people being represented in mainstream culture is really, really so great.”

GLEE, the genre-defying new musical comedy series, follows an optimistic teacher who against all odds and a malicious cheerleading coach attempts to save McKinley High’s Glee Club from obscurity while helping a group of aspiring underdogs realize their true star potential. The critically acclaimed series stars Dianna Agron, Chris Colfer, Jessalyn Gilsig, Jane Lynch, Jayma Mays, Kevin McHale, Lea Michele, Cory Monteith, Matthew Morrison, Amber Riley and Mark Salling. Guest stars this season include Victor Garber, Josh Groban, Kristin Chenoweth and Eve.

Broadway World

Flu outbreak on ‘Dancing with the Stars’

(People.com) — They’ve tried to avoid injuries every season, but these days the “Dancing with the Stars” cast is hoping to protect themselves from the flu bug that’s hit the ballroom.

“I’m living off of [vitamin drink mix] Emergen-C right now, ” Lacey Schwimmer said after Monday night’s performance. “And though I love them, I’m also keeping my distance from Derek [Hough] and Mark [Ballas].”

Hough, who got sick and had to drop out of Monday’s performance with model Joanna Krupa, said he’s not 100 percent recovered but is “feeling and doing a lot better. I was in pretty bad shape last week.”

CNN

Joanna Krupa & Derek Hough Reveal Recipe for Success with their Waltz

Derek Hough has been working with Joanna Krupa on mastering the basic technique of the waltz in preparation for Monday night’s “Dancing with the Stars.”

The master chef of the dance floor told ET he is ready to “add the sizzle, the paprika, the flavor, the spices on top of it.”

The intense practice schedule is tiring Joanna out, but she finds the energy to carry on once she reaches the dance studio. Derek said, “It’s like a marathon, except for you’re not jogging. You’re sprinting the entire way.”

ETOnline

Dancing’s Mya: Dmitry Should Wear a Cup

Mya is “excited” Dancing with the Stars judge Len Goodman has finally lavished praise on her ballroom skills, but she’s still feeling black and blue. “I have bruises all over my legs [from the Argentine tango], ” she tells TVGuide.com. “My legs, I couldn’t even expose on Monday. I had to wear fishnets because they were so bad makeup couldn’t cover them up!” But the pain probably paled in comparison to what partner Dmitry Chaplin felt when she hit him where it really hurts in rehearsals. Find out what happened and more.

TV Guide

Simon Cowell: ‘Just why are twins John and Edward more popular than Danyl Johnson?’

Simon Cowell says he wants to get to the bottom of why the nation seems to hate Danyl Johnson after the singer’s shock finish in the last two hopefuls of X Factor at the weekend.

Danyl was the show favourite last week, only to leave the judging panel flabbergasted when he came joint last in the public vote, along with girlband Miss Frank.

The panel sent Miss Frank home, but it left Simon scratching his head over why the talented music teacher, 27, didn’t do better.

Daily Mail.co.uk

Mockery and name-calling is unfair to X Factor twins

Is the X Factor turning into the most vile show on television? On Saturday night sections of the audience began booing Dublin twins, John and Edward, before they even sang a note.

It was a reaction more in keeping with the Jeremy Kyle show than a slick talent contest.

So why did the audience react in the way it did? Quite simply because they have been conditioned by some of the judges, principally Simon Cowell, to regard the twins as a talentless freak show.

Belfast Telegraph.co.uk

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663 Comments

  1. DavidArchie: Good morning! Speaking at a women’s conference today that Senator Hatch invited me to. Not much of a speaker lol so wish me luck!
    19 minutes ago from txt

    Former first lady Laura Bush is scheduled to be there too.

  2. The articles about the X Factor are the reasons why I hope Simon Cowell never gains control, or gets more control, over American Idol. Yes, he’s been manipulating the AI audience for years, and this year proved that people are starting to get tired of his game, but still, AI is a lot less scripted than the X Factor. Simon needs to get the memo that these are tv shows, and there’s no reason to continue watching if someone is always telling you what the ending will be, even with reality shows like AI, people need suspense, surprises, and they need to feel like there is a build-up to the climax. The build-up is one of the reasons why Kris won. I love the people from season 7, but honestly, the David’s and Syesha were the only ones who came out week to week and actually seemed to care about winning and improving. This year, everyone was more professional than in season 7, but still the person who kept improving and surprising people was Kris. But, Simon did everything he could to try and stop people from noticing this. Is that man’s ego so big that he thinks that this is the way to control things.

    The idiot needs to realize that not crowning someone the winner in the first week actually makes good television.

  3. @thedavidcook Leavin’ on a jet plane, but I know when I’ll be back again…

    Thanks to David, I’ll be singing Peter, Paul & Mary all morning :)

  4. This year, everyone was more professional than in season 7, but still the person who kept improving and surprising people was Kris. But, Simon did everything he could to try and stop people from noticing this. Is that man’s ego so big that he thinks that this is the way to control things.

    The idiot needs to realize that not crowning someone the winner in the first week actually makes good television.

    Who’s to say this wasn’t part of the plan from the beginning? Danny and Adam were so strongly pushed as the faves that it almost seemed a foregone conclusion that one of them would not make the finale, so as to set up the big “gasp” moment in Top 3 night. AI does love its underdog story, and Simon has been known to almost throw in some reverse psychology (berate someone who then does even better because of sympathy votes).

    I definitely agree, though, that we need less judge manipulation in general, but it probably isn’t gonna happen anytime soon.

  5. Simon has been known to almost throw in some reverse psychology (berate someone who then does even better because of sympathy votes).

    He did this in Season 7 during the finale when he criticized David Cook, and it worked. But, I still think that his behavior is hurting the show.

  6. Thanks to David, I’ll be singing Peter, Paul & Mary all morning

    Oh, that’s one of my favorite songs ever. I’ve actually fantasized about Cook singing that. RIP, Mary Travers and John Denver.

  7. imon looked rather cheesed off as he left the studio last night, and he certainly has his work cut out for him this week.

    Ok.. had to add this quote just because I like the phrase “cheesed off”. LOL

    A little tidbit for Simon. The girls like cute white boys & they vote for them. No mystery here.

    ETA: I’ve never been a Daughtry fan, but I’m happy for him. Sounds like he is gaining more cred as time goes on.

  8. He did this in Season 7 during the finale when he criticized David Cook, and it worked. But, I still think that his behavior is hurting the show.

    Very true! I was so mad at Simon after he said Archie beat him in a knockout ;-) — must. vote. harder!!

    And I guess I had a special reason to dislike Simon’s manipulation this year because I was rooting for the fav, and the more Simon talked him up, the more fans seemed to dislike that person just for being the fav or getting all the judges’ gushing praise. More often than not, I think Simon either secretly wants the underdog to win, so overly pumps up the fav, or just keeps seeing his plans backfire by doing that.

    IDK – I probably shouldn’t try to imagine what’s going on in that guy’s head!

  9. Who’s to say this wasn’t part of the plan from the beginning?

    Even if this was part of the plan, Kris was not. I actually thought at Top 4 night that Allison was the plan and to take out Danny with her. It seemed obvious to me based on the look on Simon’s face when Allison was the one out at Top 4. Once Allison was gone I think Simon wanted Adam and Danny because he only understands people with the really big voices. He continously said that Kris was not good enough to measure up to Adam and Danny.

  10. Re: girlygirl’s pic

    Oh, Kris has 2 hot band mates, Cale and the one in white; then Conan O’Brien, and Jorge Garcia from Lost. Heehee.

  11. Simon needs to get the memo that these are tv shows, and there’s no reason to continue watching if someone is always telling you what the ending will be, even with reality shows like AI, people need suspense, surprises, and they need to feel like there is a build-up to the climax. The build-up is one of the reasons why Kris won. I love the people from season 7, but honestly, the David’s and Syesha were the only ones who came out week to week and actually seemed to care about winning and improving. This year, everyone was more professional than in season 7, but still the person who kept improving and surprising people was Kris. But, Simon did everything he could to try and stop people from noticing this. Is that man’s ego so big that he thinks that this is the way to control things.

    I completely disagree with this assessment, but MJ frowns upon rehashing prior seasons so I won’t go there. However, what is it that people want from the judges and the producers….if they think that a particular contestant is terrific, are they not supposed to say so? If they think someone is boring, or did a bad job, are they not supposed to say so? Should the producers no longer provide any backstories etc.? Because if so, they we can just have a new show called “America’s Talent Show” with no judges and no backstories and the contestants can just come out, sing, shake Ryan’s hand and then the audience can vote — but i don’t think that show would be as entertaining….I have absolutely no problem with the judges stating their opinions strongly, and praising some and not others…I don’t understand the mindset that a contestant should be punished/disliked because the judges/media/studio audience really like them

  12. Photo of Kris posing with his new bandmates.

    I hope these guys get along well. They’ll have so much fun in the near future if they do.

  13. The build-up is one of the reasons why Kris won. I love the people from season 7, but honestly, the David’s and Syesha were the only ones who came out week to week and actually seemed to care about winning and improving. This year, everyone was more professional than in season 7, but still the person who kept improving and surprising people was Kris.

    Absolutely agree with this. I think part of the reason big favorites (Chris Daughtry, Melinda Doolittle, David Archuleta, and Adam Lambert) have come up short on Idol is because the audience expects the eventual winner to have grown throughout the competition. Otherwise, they just come off as seasoned artists who should already be working professionally and never needed the show to begin with.

    Simon may be rich, but he’s a fool on so many levels. Remember when he dissed Carly for singing “Blackbird” (“a song about birds”)? I just heard a great interview with Mika where he mentioned that Paul McCartney’s original lyrics for the song were “Black woman screaming down in Little Rock,” but that McCartney realized that wouldn’t work for a pop song, and that the bird metaphor was much more effective. Unless you’re Simon Cowell, who proves he was never much of a student every season on Idol.

  14. I have long believed that Simon only thinks people with big voices can be commercially successful. Which suggests he’s way behind the times, since that’s obviously not the case.

  15. Wow, I wonder why they didn’t include the Daughtry and Mat Kearney collaborations on Kris’s album. Maybe Jive isn’t going for the “roughed-up” image Kearney said the song would bring him. I’m kind of glad, though, Kearney seemed pretty dismissive of American Idol and its contestants in the original MTV article. I’m surprised about the Daughtry collaboration though.

  16. I have absolutely no problem with the judges stating their opinions strongly, and praising some and not others’ ¦I don’t understand the mindset that a contestant should be punished/disliked because the judges/media/studio audience really like them

    While obviously it’s the job of the judges to state their opinions about the contestants, I think the danger comes when they do so too strongly in a way that smacks of manipulation. Everything the judges say is heard and picked up on by the audience, so they have to take everything they say with that in mind.

    Case in point, repeatedly stating that someone will definitely make the finals has had the opposite effect many times over on AI (Daughtry, Melinda, Adam could have been a casualty of that too, but luckily wasn’t). If Simon just said great job, best of the night, etc etc. that would be one thing. To go overboard and proclaim “you’re a shoe-in for the finals, etc” that’s when it can have the opposite effect and become, imo, too manipulative.

    As for your second point above, I agree, the contestant SHOULDN’T be punished for the judges loving them, but it really really happens a lot (I don’t know how many people I talked to after last season who specifically said they voted against Adam because they hated how much the judges gushed over him). Not fair at all to him, but, it is what it is…

  17. (PS ‘“ for people who think there’s no interest in Kris, ontd_ai threads on yesterday’s concert have exceeded 10,000 comments)

    I’m a member on ontd_ai and there are similar comment counts on the insomniac and OT posts every day, plus every epic thing that happens. Just saying.

  18. Gigi3
    October 26, 2009 at 11:31 am
    (PS ‘“ for people who think there’s no interest in Kris, ontd_ai threads on yesterday’s concert have exceeded 10,000 comments)

    I’m a member on ontd_ai and there are similar comment counts on the insomniac and OT posts every day, plus every epic thing that happens. Just saying.

    I was going to say the same thing. ONTD_AI is great because they flail about everything and are hilarious while doing so!

  19. However, what is it that people want from the judges and the producers’ ¦.if they think that a particular contestant is terrific, are they not supposed to say so? If they think someone is boring, or did a bad job, are they not supposed to say so?

    I didn’t mean to make this about why someone won, but unfortunately that’s probably where the thread is going to go. I should have left that part out.

    There is a difference between giving an opinon and going over the top in an attempt to manipulate the audience and the outcome. Simon has lost all credibility on AI, paraphrasing Kris, people should take what Simon says with a grain of salt, and remember that AI is a tv show. Simon goes over board because there are cameras there, this is not a part of giving an honest opinion. In fact, there is rarely anthing in what he says that is not scripted, or a made for tv moment. Yes, over the years its been fun to watch, at times, but he needs to dial it back.

    I don’t think it’s about big voices, I just think that Simon wants to control every aspect of the show, and control the outcome. I think he gets a thrill from thinking that he has so much power over the way people act.

  20. The articles about the X Factor are the reasons why I hope Simon Cowell never gains control, or gets more control, over American Idol. Yes, he’s been manipulating the AI audience for years, and this year proved that people are starting to get tired of his game, but still, AI is a lot less scripted than the X Factor.

    Amen! I’ve been watching the X-Factor for the first time stateside simply out of wonder of what the program would be like when it comes here and (aside from the performances being largely below par) I just have a harder time getting behind a program with that much manipulation. It’s almost completely a judge/jury/executioner formation. I’d at least like Idol to be different than that.

    However, what is that people want from the judges and the producers’ ¦.if they think that a particular contestant is terrific, are they not supposed to say so? If they think someone is boring, or did a bad job, are they not supposed to say so? Should the producers no longer provide any backstories etc.?

    I think people want the judges to be judging the individual performances on their own merit as industry experts (OK, it’s Idol, and that’s absurd, but humor me for a second!). Or at least I do. I certainly don’t want the judges to be creating a pecking order for the contestants, however, and maintaining that. They’re two very different things, and that line has been crossed repeatedly, even if one takes a fairly literal approach to that and doesn’t count the context in which a number of unfair critiques have happened. It doesn’t mean reconstituting the entire formula.

    Simon may be rich, but he’s a fool on so many levels. Remember when he dissed Carly for singing ‘Blackbird’  (‘ a song about birds’ )?

    He has a long history of really stupid comments. But, you know, that is partially why he’s a great music executive; he has absolutely no sense of music as an art form, which means the terms he judges on are so heavily commercialized that he’s able to meet the terms of the industry so well. Not, mind you, that I actually like that at all. But it is his appeal.

  21. For some reason, I couldn’t edit my post. I wanted to add that I think it’s rare that people vote for someone because they don’t like that another contestant was over pimped. I do think that people might vote harder for the contestant that they like, if someone was pimped harder. This is what happened with me as far as both Kris and David Cook are concerned. I’ve never voted for two or four hours straight during previous seasons, but I made an exception during last year’s finale, and most weeks this season. It’s not that I wouldn’t have voted for either David or Kris, they were my favorites, it’s just that Simon’s manipulation made me more passionate in my voting.

  22. I voted for the People’s Choice thing, but there’s no way Adam or Kris is going to beat out Lady Gaga for Breakout Artist

  23. I voted for the People’s Choice thing, but there’s no way Adam or Kris is going to beat out Lady Gaga for Breakout Artist

    I saw that too….you are probably right.

  24. I actually think that the X-Factor audience (just like American Idol) has started to “manipulate” the show by voting totally against what common sense dictates should be the outcome. What fun is there in having the real talented and obviously the most industry ready person win. These shows are now just audience manipulated in response to what some perceive as judge manipulated. Next year on AI should be a real joke…I am waiting for a William Hong or a Norman Gentle or a Sanjaya to win it all….hell, these shows are getting pretty close…The twins, anyone.

  25. Simon may be rich, but he’s a fool on so many levels. Remember when he dissed Carly for singing ‘Blackbird’  (‘ a song about birds’ )? I just heard a great interview with Mika where he mentioned that Paul McCartney’s original lyrics for the song were ‘Black woman screaming down in Little Rock,’  but that McCartney realized that wouldn’t work for a pop song, and that the bird metaphor was much more effective. Unless you’re Simon Cowell, who proves he was never much of a student every season on Idol.

    This is true. At the Sir Paul concert I attended in Atlanta, he introduced “Blackbird” by saying he wrote it after hearing of the racial struggles in the South.

    Simon is clueless frequently when it comes to anything other than his personal take on a singer’s ability. Who was it that he criticized for singing a song that wasn’t current when the song in fact was high on the charts at the time?

  26. I completely disagree with this assessment, but MJ frowns upon rehashing prior seasons

    Please. Let’s not argue about past history. Been there, done that. Onward and upward.

  27. I voted for the People’s Choice thing, but there’s no way Adam or Kris is going to beat out Lady Gaga for Breakout Artist

    This is a FAN VOTE… I wouldn’t bet on fans stuffing the ballot boxes. It’s happened before!

  28. This is true. At the Sir Paul concert I attended in Atlanta, he introduced ‘Blackbird’  by saying he wrote it after hearing of the racial struggles in the South.

    I never knew the history of this song, but it makes me sad when I hear it.

  29. re Simon’s dumb comments – He also said David Cook almost made a song about a bird interesting whend DC sang “Little Sparrow”. Uh, Simon, it’s not about a bird. Ever hear of a metaphor?

    People always criticized Paula’s dumb comments, but Randy and Simon have had their share too.

  30. I wanted to add that I think it’s rare that people vote for someone because they don’t like that another contestant was over pimped. I do think that people might vote harder for the contestant that they like, if someone was pimped harder. This is what happened with me as far as both Kris and David Cook are concerned. I’ve never voted for two or four hours straight during previous seasons, but I made an exception during last year’s finale, and most weeks this season. It’s not that I wouldn’t have voted for either David or Kris, they were my favorites, it’s just that Simon’s manipulation made me more passionate in my voting.

    Fair point. And I think that it draws in new voters who have favorites, but might otherwise just be viewers, but who get pissed.

    For what it’s worth, I don’t think Simon gets it, or at least in full. I really don’t, because otherwise he’d back off later in the game. It partially works in a sense, in that it does create early buzz for a contestant, to the degree that he can basically put certain contestants into the Top 5 or so on Idol. But I don’t buy, for example, the reverse psychology argument with David Cook (in that final statement at least; the press leading up to the finale is another ball game, because you’re supposed to be hyping). Simon dearly likes to be right. As it’s noted, he gets off on that, and his ego isn’t exactly a small entity here. He wouldn’t risk being wrong for no reason other than to shore up a victory for someone who, given the massive voting differential, probably had the thing locked up in the bag anyway.

    (I do think, however, he gets that negative backlash from harsh commentary happens. He didn’t get it in Season One of Idol, but the way the semis panned out seems to have changed that. I just don’t think he understands the notion of “overhype”.)

  31. re Simon’s dumb comments ‘“ He also said David Cook almost made a song about a bird interesting whend DC sang ‘Little Sparrow’ . Uh, Simon, it’s not about a bird. Ever hear of a metaphor?

    People always criticized Paula’s dumb comments, but Randy and Simon have had their share too.

    Paula probably gets the lion’s share because her statements are more poetically wacky, rather than just wrong. Still, I do think Simon gets more credit for being on the ball than he really should. Even with Kara; yeah, early/late Aerosmith was stupid, but it’s not like Simon hasn’t made equally appalling mistakes at any number of points.

  32. Once Allison was gone I think Simon wanted Adam and Danny because he only understands people with the really big voices. He continously said that Kris was not good enough to measure up to Adam and Danny.

    I think Simon probably overall favors bigger voices, but I wouldn’t say he doesn’t understand those without the big voices. He loved Brooke last year until she started unraveling at the seams, and he supported Jason last year (after Hallelujah, he said he was getting “better and better and better”, and didn’t ditch him until Top 6 onward). In S8, he actually gave Kris big props for songs like Falling Slowly, and even called the round where he reprised Ain’t No Sunshine in his favor on Top 2 night. Maybe Simon favors big voices, but he’s definitely recognized contestants without them in the past. Maybe the times he called Kris boring, he really thought it was boring, and not due to a predisposed bias against Kris’ smaller range.

  33. Simon was on Ellen the day before the F2 performance show going on about how much he wanted DC to win and how he thought he would win. Simon Fuller went on record saying he wasnt shocked he won because he saw the votes every week. IMO Simon’s comments were right from his gut because he was pissed he didn’t play the game the way he wanted. He said right then he wanted him to sing again Hello or Billie Jean and he reacted. Whether the harsh tone was reverse psychology or not who knows. If he believed on that why didn’t he make the same kind of comments this year? He clearly wanted Adam to win.

  34. I voted for the People’s Choice thing, but there’s no way Adam or Kris is going to beat out Lady Gaga for Breakout Artist

    Nor should they…after listening to her radio interview earlier, I was amazed to hear that her first 4 singles all hit number 1…first ever in the US to do that. She deserves to win this year..Next year it should be ADAM!

  35. I definitely agree, though, that we need less judge manipulation in general, but it probably isn’t gonna happen anytime soon.

    I don’t get this. Aren’t they suppose to say what they feel? If someone is good, they shouldn’t say so?

  36. I think Simon probably overall favors bigger voices, but I wouldn’t say he doesn’t understand those without the big voices. He loved Brooke last year until she started unraveling at the seams, and he supported Jason last year (after Hallelujah, he said he was getting ‘better and better and better’ , and didn’t ditch him until Top 6 onward). In S8, he actually gave Kris big props for songs like Falling Slowly, and even called the round where he reprised Ain’t No Sunshine for him on Top 2 night. Maybe Simon favors big voices, but he’s definitely recognized contestants without them in the past. Maybe the times he called Kris boring, he really thought it was boring, and not due to a predisposed bias against Kris’ smaller range.

    Perhaps. But he does have that tendency of equating “great vocal” to “big glory note”. There are other performances that he might credit for because of things on different terms (an excellent song choice, a unique presentation). He’s never been one to praise subtle vocal performances on their terms of being subtle vocal performances, though, and frankly I’m not sure he could.

  37. Next year on AI should be a real joke’ ¦I am waiting for a William Hong or a Norman Gentle or a Sanjaya to win it all’ ¦.hell, these shows are getting pretty close’ ¦The twins, anyone.

    Ok – this last season started out badly, bikini girl, Norman et al, but luckily the audience is generally good enough to weed through these novelty acts and actually vote talent in the end. This only benefits 19/AI too – while it might be great to get the temporary press from someone like Sanjaya or William Hung, in the end they want a talented winner who can do well on the charts and carry the AI name.

  38. He’s never been one to praise subtle vocal performances on their terms of being subtle vocal performances, though, and frankly I’m not sure he could.

    I dunno, just cuz he doesn’t specifically identify the subtle performances he praises as being subtle doesn’t mean he doesn’t get that they’re good because they’re not oversung. I’d venture to say that Randy’s the judge who tends to equate “great vocal” to “big glory note” much more than Simon. Simon appreciates when contestants can nail the big songs, but he doesn’t blindly reward the big voices/big notes. If anything, Simon has done the opposite of Randy at times to point out when contestants oversing a song, or shout it, or whatever. He criticized Syesha for ramping up I Will Always Love You after starting it out nicely in the Dolly vein, implying that he would’ve preferred she committed to the low-key version than attempt the Whitney thing. He frequently dissuades people from attempting more than their voices could handle. I’m not saying Simon isn’t a douche sometimes, or wrong often, talks out of his ass a lot, or biased against smaller ranges- I guess I’m just saying he’s not *that* biased LOL.

    (Randy usually just follows Simon’s lead).

    Doesn’t Randy speak before Simon?

  39. Maybe Simon favors big voices, but he’s definitely recognized contestants without them in the past.

    He has, but he also has never wanted this type of contestant to get as far as Jason Castro did, or win the whole thing like Kris did, but YMMV.

    In S8, he actually gave Kris big props for songs like Falling Slowly, and even called the round where he reprised Ain’t No Sunshine for him on Top 2 night.

    I think in the case of the Top 2 night, he was afraid of a David Cook repeat, when he had given the night so olidly to Archie and the Cook voters just went crazy against that.

    He’s never been one to praise subtle vocal performances on their terms of being subtle vocal performances, though, and frankly I’m not sure he could.

    If you recall, he also called Kris’s second song too light for a big room, which was a put down to what many would call “folk artists” as was discussed in Kris’s Idolatry interview with Slezak after the show. The dismissal of this performance by Simon and Randy only further showed how Simon does not know how to give a good critique to a performance that is meant to be of this type rather then full of power and glory notes. (Randy usually just follows Simon’s lead).

  40. luckily the audience is generally good enough to weed through these novelty acts and actually vote talent in the end.

    Mary102….Noman Gentle was praised beyond belief on many AI forums for his comedic timing, his great voice, and for his awesome stage persona. I could dig up more than 1 thread devoted to this….Personally, I think that a lot of the “praise” was tongue in cheek but there are still a lot of people who choose an idol, not on talent, but on a “screw you” mentality. And the numbers have increased every year. Sooner or later this thinking will be the norm…and then Idol will be history.

  41. Maybe Simon suffers from ornithophobia

    ´IMO Simon’s comments were right from his gut because he was pissed he didn’t play the game the way he wanted.

    Exactly. Simon wasn’t playing any game, he was just being honest. I think that’s why this year they didn’t allow them to change the coronation song or to pick a new song, cause they didn’t want anyone to do what Cook did.

  42. Well evidently Arhcie gavea 50 minute speech at the womens conference and sang one verse of OHN. Sounds like it went well. Got a standing ovation after he was finished.

  43. Photo of Kris posing with his new bandmates.

    http://www.ineedmyfix.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/full_kris_allen_04_wenn2628986.jpg

    (PS ‘“ for people who think there’s no interest in Kris, ontd_ai threads on yesterday’s concert have exceeded 10,000 comments)

    thanks girlygirl for the band pic. Looks very good. On a shallow note, I noticed how similar body types Kris and Chris Torres have .

    and you’re right, there’s indeed a lot of interest for Kris

  44. I don’t think Simon is a fool. He has known from year to year that his comments piss off people and cause them to vote passionately for or against someone. Do you really believe he sits up there and pushes a contestant and DOESN’T think it pisses off peeps and motivates voters? He knows exactly what he is doing and he is doing it very well. It works every year. The underdog wins year after year. If this wasn’t in his plan, and he was really dissatisfied, wouldn’t he change his plan? He is way smarter in the manipulation than peeps give him credit. Now that the same thing is happening on the XFactor, you can clearly see a pattern. Simon would have to be mentally challenged NOT to get it. I really think he totally gets it and it works out just the way he intends it to be.

  45. So there are finally a couple of decent videos up on youtube, and I could actually hear the new songs. Man, does Kris get down! Good ‘n funky, and very nice hooks. Someday I’ll actually hear the lyrics too.

    And I don’t give a hoot if he’s just wearing a T-shirt and not doing a lot of stage banter. When he’s singing he is really into the music, and that intensity is very palpable.

    Love that soulful vibe, and high hopes now for the album!

  46. I think part of the reason big favorites (Chris Daughtry, Melinda Doolittle, David Archuleta, and Adam Lambert) have come up short on Idol is because the audience expects the eventual winner to have grown throughout the competition. Otherwise, they just come off as seasoned artists who should already be working professionally and never needed the show to begin with.

    ITA, totally. All 4 came in guns ablazing as early favorites, achieved “moments” in the first part of the show, then pretty much stayed at that same level of vocal excellence throughout. But, because they didn’t appear to evolve at all in look, personality, and/or confidence level, it came off like they flatlined a bit – they seemed one-note by the time it got to then end, with the possible exception of Adam. Its the person that seems to “grow into a star” while on the show who tends to win.

  47. I don’t get this. Aren’t they suppose to say what they feel? If someone is good, they shouldn’t say so?

    But I’m not sure Simon is even paying attention half the time. Yes, if he loved a performance, he should absolutely say so. But if he only paid attention to the performance of the one contestant he prefers, then his judgment that one singer’s performance was better than the other’s is disingenuous.

    The dude sees things in black and white, and he thinks his opinion is superior to everybody else’s. And he has no self-consciousness whatsoever about the gaping holes in his musical knowledge for one simple reason: Because he’s richer than God. That trumps everything in his mind.

  48. Well evidently Arhcie gavea 50 minute speech at the womens conference and sang one verse of OHN. Sounds like it went well. Got a standing ovation after he was finished.

    Thanks for the newsflash, frogcooke. Some blurry pics over at Snarky’s of him at the podium. Seems a long time to speak. I’d have rather had a 20 minute speech and 30 minutes of his beautiful singing! Glad it went well. Should be a huge confidence booster for him in terms of being “good with words.” Never would have predicted this event for Archie. Chuckles.

  49. 50 minute speech

    Wow, that’s LONG! Is that a typo?

    Hope he did well, but that sounds really long for anybody — especially long for Archie who doesn’t really seem to me to be a natural public speaker?

  50. Simon dearly likes to be right. As it’s noted, he gets off on that, and his ego isn’t exactly a small entity here.

    Well, he predicted worldwide stardom for Adam, so he went out on a limb a bit with that one. LOL. I’m hoping Simon is truly the genius Simon thinks he (Simon) is. ;)

  51. I voted for the People’s Choice thing, but there’s no way Adam or Kris is going to beat out Lady Gaga for Breakout Artist

    I saw that too’ ¦.you are probably right.

    And, perhaps even more to the point, no reason why Adam and Kris *should,* much as I love them. …. Lady Gaga is the one who “broke out” this year, going from kind of obscurity to being a phenom, with lots of sales, radio play, etc.

    Adam and Kris, on the other hand, were *given* exposure, this year, and they both did very well in the arena they operated in. But the exposure they got was to a tv audience, not to the music-buying, concert-going public and the radio industry, which is where you’re supposed to “break out,” I believe.

    If Adam and Kris are gonna break out, they’ll be doing it next year or the year after that.

  52. I’m sure the favorite condom thing is 100% for real. I’m sure we’ll get tons more of his edginess as he starts to promo his album.

    Too bad, it’s a big turn off to me. Although others may see it as him being honest.

  53. Kelly added Chivas (her song) to her set list las night, and she took a shot or two of Chivas before the song

    Love Chivas, the song, not the drink, lol. That was amazing.

    Doesn’t Randy speak before Simon?

    Just another one of the idol truisms, that happens not to be true….about Randy just parroting Simon.

    Well evidently Arhcie gavea 50 minute speech at the womens conference and sang one verse of OHN. Sounds like it went well. Got a standing ovation after he was finished.

    Wow! Good for Archie!

  54. Its the person that seems to ‘grow into a star’  while on the show who tends to win.

    Sorry, I’ll disagree…I trully think AI voting is about getting a socially accepted person as the winner, one without a lot of baggage or controversy who will wear the AI banner proudly and be a “true” representative of what an “American” Idol is all about. I really think the fans got everything they wanted when Carrie won…except that she sings country. The AI voters are really hoping for a “Carrie almost” that sings mainstream pop. Wouldn’t be surprised if that isn’t what happens this year. No Drama Queens need to apply!

  55. I actually think Simon does understand that the judges’ manipulation/favoritism (call it what you wish) does tick people off and may have an opposite effect on voting. However, I differ with the sentiment that if he would stop this if he wanted a different outcome.

    Personally, I think his ego is so huge that he can’t control his behavior and therefore continues to try to influence the outcome, even though logically he may at the same time realize he is likely causing the opposite to occur. To me, it’s sort of like knowing you should really stop eating too much peanut butter, but not being able to help yourself.

  56. Mary102′ ¦.Noman Gentle was praised beyond belief on many AI forums for his comedic timing, his great voice, and for his awesome stage persona. I could dig up more than 1 thread devoted to this’ ¦.Personally, I think that a lot of the ‘praise’  was tongue in cheek but there are still a lot of people who choose an idol, not on talent, but on a ‘screw you’  mentality. And the numbers have increased every year. Sooner or later this thinking will be the norm’ ¦and then Idol will be history.

    Not everyone has the same idea of what talent is. Any TV talent contest left up to the general public is going to have shock boots or people we may deem less talented last longer than maybe we think they should.

    AI is first and foremost a TV show. They care about ratings and ad revenue. The post-AI careers of the contestants are really low on the priority list. They cast characters that they believe will entertain people and in some way attract the public’s interest.

    Seems like every breathing mammal in the US can detect the manipulations and pimping. So I personally don’t see it as a big deal. To the majority of the viewers, it’s just a tv show. Most of these people do not follow nor care about the careers of the contestants afterward.

    I know lots of people believe the original intent of this show was to find a huge American pop star. But I really think the original intent was to fill a timeslot on fox with some cheap reality programming and make some money for 19, Fox & AT&T. The end result was probably inconsequential to them. I also think that if Justin had won Season 1, we wouldn’t even be having this conversation. AI would have long since been cancelled and replaced with some other cheap reality show about grocery store workers or something.

  57. Details has some feature connected with his interview. I guess every day they give one of his answers. I guess he could have not answered the condom question but obviously did.

  58. Still do not want to know Adam’s favorite condom. I hope that is a joke. No matter what Kara says, there ARE some boundaries, Adam. LOL

    It’s a bit TMI, sure, but at the same time, there’s no harm in promoting safe sex. :)

  59. Gigi3
    October 26, 2009 at 12:45 pm
    Still do not want to know Adam’s favorite condom. I hope that is a joke. No matter what Kara says, there ARE some boundaries, Adam. LOL

    Actually, for as many of us as this may turn off, it is very good for enforcing the concept of “safe sex” particularly in the gay community. I hope he does offer this information if only for that reason.

  60. Someone asked him that? Details site is blocked at work.

    From the Details website:
    Until the end of the month, the idolized rocker will count down his obsessions. Yes, that means you’ll know his preferred eyeliner and condom soon enough.
    So far we’ve heard (in reverse numerical order) #8 favorite musical, #7 favorite eyeliner, #6 favorite cocktail, #5 favorite energy drink, and #4 favorite cartoon. Condom will probably take the #1 spot. Sigh.

    ETA: Yeah for safe sex!! At least there’s that positive aspect. DO want Adam to have safe sex. I hope that angle is stressed in the article.

  61. I’m sure the favorite condom thing is 100% for real. I’m sure we’ll get tons more of his edginess as he starts to promo his album.

    Too bad, it’s a big turn off to me. Although others may see it as him being honest.

    Well, the thing is, some personalities appeal to some of us and some to others. Adam, Kris, Danny, Allison — there’s not one of them that appeals to everybody, and that’s just as well because it leaves more room for the others.

    Having worked with kids for many years and knowing how *dumb* most of them are about safe-sex practices, I personally think that anything anybody can do to make a condom cool is a good thing, a very very good thing. I think hot-guy singers in clothing magazines probably have the potential to make more condom converts than surgeon generals, although I think it’s probably uphill work for both, though!

    But I certainly appreciate that some would rather not hear singers talking about stuff like this or see magazine articles about it! (probably most folks who don’t want to see it don’t read Details either, though, luckily …)

  62. Too bad, it’s a big turn off to me. Although others may see it as him being honest.

    Agreed – this is really not something I need to know – I just want to hear Adam’s music and not the intimate unnecessary things from his life – I want to judge him on his music.

    Doesn’t Randy speak before Simon?

    Just another one of the idol truisms, that happens not to be true’ ¦.about Randy just parroting Simon.

    Not always. This season they originally had the start person change so except for when Randy spoke first he spoke after Simon. Also, since the judges were allowed to watch dress rehearsals, I will always believe that they discussed the rehearsals with each other, but YMMV on this concept.

  63. (PS ‘“ for people who think there’s no interest in Kris, ontd_ai threads on yesterday’s concert have exceeded 10,000 comments)

    Jeez, and we are all so impressed with ourselves here when a thread goes over 1,000. Clearly we have to step up our game!

  64. man, I’ll be dead before we get to #1…weep, weep. Heh, that will be just before his album drops…and see, we can all send him his favorite condom as a congratulation gesture…plain brown envelopes, please.

    Is anyone really having heartache over this?

  65. I think part of the reason big favorites (Chris Daughtry, Melinda Doolittle, David Archuleta, and Adam Lambert) have come up short on Idol is because the audience expects the eventual winner to have grown throughout the competition. Otherwise, they just come off as seasoned artists who should already be working professionally and never needed the show to begin with.

    From my 2-season experience as an AI watcher (heh, expert alert!), I agree. I’d add that it appears the formula for success is to come out and make a decently big impression early on in the semi’s, and then follow it up sometime deeper into the finals. You need two moments, one early, and another one later, and after that, generally it’s fine if you just do decently consistent, or “not worst” performances each week. If the two moments built up enough goodwill and fanbase support, America will even forgive you the one off-week, and it helps to bring it on home if, among the consistent performances, some of them are the best of the week.

    Speaking of manipulation, checked out that article MJ posted above from the Guardian UK. Some interesting quotes from this guy Boyd, who was there with the two Simons at the inception of UK’s Pop Idol:

    Boyd, 68, who retired three years ago, remains a special adviser to RTL’s chief executive Gerhard Zeiler, the owner of Fremantle. He also acts as an unofficial adviser to Holloway as he spends Saturday evenings watching The X Factor, and telephones with instant feedback.

    He has started to pass on his experience to young producers at RTL-owned companies. His tips include avoiding copycat shows, keeping it authentic, getting the casting right with lots of personalities and heroes, and incorporating emotion.

    “Big emotional moments” make a show, he believes. “Pop Idol changed from a singing contest to a story show when Gareth Gates stood before the panel of judges, and stuttered, before singing like an angel.

    Well, no surprise… but still have hopes Season 9 of AI won’t be one big back-story filled circus…

    This season they originally had the start person change so except for when Randy spoke first he spoke after Simon.

    I thought we were talking about Top 2 night. Didn’t they stop the rotating thing cuz it seemed to annoy Simon sometime near the end of the season?

  66. “Well evidently Arhcie gavea 50 minute speech at the womens conference and sang one verse of OHN. Sounds like it went well. Got a standing ovation after he was finished.”

    Congratulations David A. Standing O? Wow – good for you.
    You always bring smile to my face whatever you do and now – speaking?

  67. but still have hopes Season 9 of AI won’t be one big back-story filled circus’ ¦

    Yea…my head is filled with the idiot auditioners that may go beyond the boundaries of sanity to fill the slot left by Danny Gokey…nah…no one would be that stupid.

  68. Someone asked him that? Details site is blocked at work.

    LOL! Not yet. #4 was fav comic = X-Men. Which means Adam gets bonus points because that is my fav comic too :-) I was obsessed with the cartoon (4pm after school!) Lol.

    Mary102′ ¦.Noman Gentle was praised beyond belief on many AI forums for his comedic timing, his great voice, and for his awesome stage persona.

    Really? Uh, ok – I guess everyone has an audience. But, nvm, not even going there.

  69. man, I’ll be dead before we get to #1′ ¦weep, weep. Heh, that will be just before his album drops’ ¦and see, we can all send him his favorite condom as a congratulation gesture’ ¦plain brown envelopes, please.

    Is anyone really having heartache over this?

    They do one per day, except they skipped the weekend. So favorite condom should be up during one of the next 3 days.

    And, no I’m not really having heartache over this. It’s a little bit TMI, but as someone pointed out earlier, safe sex is a very very good thing, so no need for me or anyone else to be squeamish about condoms.

  70. Meh, it’s a men’s magazine, not Family Circle. Men talk about sex, we think about sex. A lot. Stuff like that comes up. Hell, all of my male friends (gay and straight) have often discussed such subjects. We like to compare notes on the occasion. Nothing more, nothing less

  71. I voted for the People’s Choice thing, but there’s no way Adam or Kris is going to beat out Lady Gaga for Breakout Artist

    This is a FAN VOTE’ ¦ I wouldn’t bet on fans stuffing the ballot boxes. It’s happened before!

    Apparently there’s no limit to the number of times you can vote — I just voted twice. So you could sit at your computer and vote all day every day until the poll is closed. The People’s Choice Award is totally meaningless.

  72. “Wow, that’s LONG! Is that a typo?”

    No not a typo by me.. lol got that from twitter.
    He can talk when he wants to lol and not stop talking.. lol

  73. I’m sure the favorite condom thing is 100% for real. I’m sure we’ll get tons more of his edginess as he starts to promo his album.

    Too bad, it’s a big turn off to me. Although others may see it as him being honest.

    Do I care what Adam’s (or anyone’s) favorite condom is? Absolutely not!

    Will this stop me from wanting to hear his music? Of course not!

    (The condom-question is just a silly Q & A thingy done by the Details magazine, really, who cares in the long run?)

  74. The People’s Choice Award is totally meaningless.

    Very meaningless.

  75. (The condom-question is just a silly Q & A thingy done by the Details magazine, really, who cares in the long run?)

    You’d be surprised…I am sure it will turn into a thousand post thread on some blog, somewhere.

    hah..good photoshopping. This is as good as the unsubstantiated twitter that he wore all black

  76. You’d be surprised’ ¦I am sure it will turn into a thousand post thread on some blog, somewhere.

    Hahaha
    Or 10,000.

  77. HermeticallySealed
    October 26, 2009 at 1:16 pm
    Meh, it’s a men’s magazine, not Family Circle. Men talk about sex, we think about sex. A lot. Stuff like that comes up. Hell, all of my male friends (gay and straight) have often discussed such subjects. We like to compare notes on the occasion. Nothing more, nothing less

    I agree with this – if Details is targeted to a gay audience this question makes sense. Is it a question I would randomly ask him? No. Do I really care about the answer? No. But it is good to know he is safe and he endorses safe sex.

  78. I’d say AI has more of “rooting for the underdog” mentality than “growing into a star” thing. Just count how many hollywood movie with “the underdog getting the final glory” theme.

  79. Apparently there’s no limit to the number of times you can vote ‘” I just voted twice. So you could sit at your computer and vote all day every day until the poll is closed. The People’s Choice Award is totally meaningless.

    Not true- it’s one vote per day.
    http://www.peopleschoice.com/pca/terms.jsp
    “3. Voting Conditions. Voters are permitted one vote in each category per day/in any 24-hour period. All voting will be subject to verification and certification by an independent third party auditor. No automatic, programmed, robotic or similar means of voting are permitted. Participants who do not comply with these Terms and Conditions, or who attempt to interfere with the voting process or the operation of the Web Site in any way will be disqualified and their votes will not be counted.”

  80. RT @BRIANRAYGUITAR @ladygaga all the best to your dad … I played the guitars on the @AdamLambert song you wrote. Its a frikkin' hot song!
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  81. will be disqualified and their votes will not be counted.’ 

    Sorry Will you have just been disqualified!!

  82. The important news from this thread is that Adam needs to be very careful: fangs and condoms are a risky combination.

  83. The important news from this thread is that Adam needs to be very careful: fangs and condoms are a risky combination.

    LOL
    A+++, halfie!!

  84. He did this in Season 7 during the finale when he criticized David Cook, and it worked. But, I still think that his behavior is hurting the show.

    As others have already stated, I truly think Simon was genuinely pissed that Cook wasn’t ‘playing the game’  Simon thought he should in order to win the title. (Not choosing the sappiest coronation song and singing what he chose in a rocked out way; not rehashing one of his break-out performances, etc.) That’s why Simon prefers X-Factor where he gets to control his ‘favorites.’  He picks their songs and advises them on how to sing them, so he needn’t worry about pesky artists who have their own minds.

    Photo of Kris posing with his new bandmates.

    http://www.ineedmyfix.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/full_kris_allen_04_wenn2628986.jpg

    Okay, the guy standing right next to Kris’ ¦. That’s the one I thought was a woman in the Youtube video linked to yesterday. Ha!

    Absolutely agree with this. I think part of the reason big favorites (Chris Daughtry, Melinda Doolittle, David Archuleta, and Adam Lambert) have come up short on Idol is because the audience expects the eventual winner to have grown throughout the competition. Otherwise, they just come off as seasoned artists who should already be working professionally and never needed the show to begin with.

    Exactly. I think the audience really likes to see a contestant grow on the show, not come in all ready for primetime. That way the audience feels like a part of the journey ‘“ especially if you’re voting for that person ‘“ and you feel invested in their winning because you feel as if you’re watching an ‘ugly duckling’  turn into a swan or a caterpillar into a butterfly. It’s feel good, fairy tale 101.

    I actually think that the X-Factor audience (just like American Idol) has started to ‘manipulate’  the show by voting totally against what common sense dictates should be the outcome.

    Common sense is more like: you shouldn’t walk down a dark alley at night or you shouldn’t go on a long trip without gassing up the car. Common sense has nothing to do with picking the singer you like the best. That’s totally subjective and a matter of taste.

    Exactly. Simon wasn’t playing any game, he was just being honest. I think that’s why this year they didn’t allow them to change the coronation song or to pick a new song, cause they didn’t want anyone to do what Cook did.

    I agree with this. It harks back to my first comment. If we (TPTB) give the contestants more freedom, they then have the freedom to win or lose even though we’ve tried to control the outcome as much as possible to get the winner we (TPTB) prefer.

    Still do not want to know Adam’s favorite condom. I hope that is a joke. No matter what Kara says, there ARE some boundaries, Adam. LOL

    Maybe he’s hoping for a promotional deal: Brand X Condoms, The Official Condoms of American Idol (via Adam Lambert).

    I know lots of people believe the original intent of this show was to find a huge American pop star. But I really think the original intent was to fill a timeslot on fox with some cheap reality programming and make some money for 19, Fox & AT&T.

    I agree that that’s what FOX wanted. After all, they first aired the show in the summer. Not a time when you expect big audiences or big hits. However, unfortunately for them, the American audience took the show a lot more seriously than they did and actually wanted to reward someone who had the most talent, according to the majority. I think what helped generate this feeling in the audience were the contestants, themselves, many of whom were so obviously sincere and really wanted an opportunity to show their stuff.

  85. Not true- it’s one vote per day.

    Oops! Thanks Buderschnookie. All I did is go to the link posted here and vote in that category, I didn’t look at the Terms and Conditions. But since it seemed like my votes counted, and I didn’t have to register, I wonder how do they really enforce that one-vote-per-day rule? I’ll have to go back and take a look, but thanks for the clarification.

    ETA: OK, now I see that you do have to register for your vote to count. So the PCA is not (quite) as meaningless as I had thought.

  86. The important news from this thread is that Adam needs to be very careful: fangs and condoms are a risky combination.

    Unless you are impotentatary.

  87. The important news from this thread is that Adam needs to be very careful: fangs and condoms are a risky combination

    lol …oh well done on that one .. genius

    Yep definitely not promoting safe sex … could actually be very painful sex ..lol

  88. The important news from this thread is that Adam needs to be very careful: fangs and condoms are a risky combination

    You are the best – rotflmao.

  89. HermeticallySealed
    Meh, it’s a men’s magazine, not Family Circle. Men talk about sex, we think about sex. A lot. Stuff like that comes up. Hell, all of my male friends (gay and straight) have often discussed such subjects.

    Very true, but it gives new meaning to your name! ;-)

  90. Having worked with kids for many years and knowing how *dumb* most of them are about safe-sex practices, I personally think that anything anybody can do to make a condom cool is a good thing, a very very good thing. I think hot-guy singers in clothing magazines probably have the potential to make more condom converts than surgeon generals, although I think it’s probably uphill work for both, though!

    Dumb kids are probably out there doing God knows what to themselves not reading Details magazine, a magazine catered to working white collar male professionals. This ain’t no teen/tweenybopper magazine! lol lol

  91. But it is good to know he is safe and he endorses safe sex.

    I’m not sure we know this yet, do we? He’s not yet answered the question. And the boy does like to shock. He may say, “None.” We anticipate (and hope) that he won’t answer that way, of course, but we don’t actually “know.”

    Just throwing that out there…

  92. I don’t have a problem with the condom question either. But since he elaborates on each answer he gives, I’m sure he’ll be telling us why his choice is his favorite. ;)

    I’m all for any endorsement of safe sex, gay or straight. It’s a win win.

    ETA: Oh God I hope he’s not dumb enough not to be using condoms. The boy is too smart for that.

  93. I wonder how do they really enforce that one-vote-per-day rule? I’ll have to go back and take a look, but thanks for the clarification.

    Once you vote, the site puts a cookie on your computer that won’t allow you to vote again.

    But most fan groups worth their salt will post explicit directions on how to get around those pesky cookies to vote as many times you’d like.

  94. I get the whole safe sex argument. But I’m guessing the sophisticated readers of Details know all about safe sex. But after the “arty” pictures, I’m sure the condom thing is no biggie. Again, it all works fine with the image he’s going for. And certainly keeps him on that all important edge.

  95. I’m not sure we know this yet, do we? He’s not yet answered the question. And the boy does like to shock. He may say, ‘None.’  We anticipate (and hope) that he won’t answer that way, of course, but we don’t actually ‘know.’ 

    Just throwing that out there’ ¦

    No we don’t know yet. If he says none because he’s in a monogamous relationship, I’ll be alright with that.

  96. I wonder how do they really enforce that one-vote-per-day rule? I’ll have to go back and take a look, but thanks for the clarification.

    Once you vote, the site puts a cookie on your computer that won’t allow you to vote again.

    But most fan groups worth their salt will post explicit directions on how to get around those pesky cookies to vote as many times you’d like.

    Why bother it ain’t that deep.

  97. You need two moments, one early, and another one later, and after that, generally it’s fine if you just do decently consistent, or ‘not worst’  performances each week.

    I agree with most of your theory, but I have a minor nitpick. You can easily be the worst of the week and still survive (panic voting). It’s much worse to be “Meh” an in the middle of the performance pack. If you do have a “Scream On” week, you better bring it the next week, though, because the voters will relax.

    That looks old, his hair is too short.

    And it looks far too much like the ‘do Liza has been rocking for the last 40 years.

    And the material on that outfit reminds me of the free bag I got with my $35 purchase of Clinique. Meow.

  98. Again, it all works fine with the image he’s going for. And certainly keeps him on that all important edge.

    The edge is important to a lot of us, finally something different!!!!!!

    That said, nothing wrong with other singers having pictures of themselves taken with an apron on, in the kitchen with their wives. Lots of people find that smokin’ hot too.

  99. That said, nothing wrong with other singers having pictures of themselves taken with an apron on, in the kitchen with their wives. Lots of people find that smokin’ hot too.

    Oh, come on. Everybody knows that was a public service message. There are some stupid kids out there that do not realize that they can protect their clothes when they cook by wearing an apron. Then, when they get pasta all over their new jeans, they toss them in the garbage. What a waste! Kris is doing his part to stop the volume of material clogging the waste management system and the rampant abuse of third world garmet factory workers.

    Kris is saving the world, one apron at a time. Or maybe it’s two at a time!

  100. Dumb kids are probably out there doing God knows what to themselves not reading Details magazine, a magazine catered to working white collar male professionals. This ain’t no teen/tweenybopper magazine! lol lol

    True!

    But I think some of the kids are probably reading the web site, just like lots of people here are! — Plus, when Adam comes out with stuff about his favorite condom, it’s probably going to make the news *elsewhere* == like in People magazine — just as everything that he ever says does, especially when it involves sex! It”s not as if only the Details readers are going to see this — especially since the whole Adam shebang over there involves sexy pictures … somehow I think teenagers are drawn to those!

  101. I’m sure the favorite condom thing is 100% for real. I’m sure we’ll get tons more of his edginess as he starts to promo his album.

    Too bad, it’s a big turn off to me. Although others may see it as him being honest.

    Genuine question (no, really, it is!); is condom choice actually supposed to be an edgy thing?

  102. Squirrely. Too funny bc it reminded me of a twitter I saw this am:

    michaelianblack Second thing. I have a new slogan for Cheerios. Cheerios: the breakfast food Smurfs can fuck.

  103. And it looks far too much like the ‘do Liza has been rocking for the last 40 years.

    Eh, things could be worse. He could be sporting a pretty bad combover or a big ass bald spot in the back of his head. :)

  104. I agree with most of your theory, but I have a minor nitpick. You can easily be the worst of the week and still survive (panic voting). It’s much worse to be ‘Meh’  an in the middle of the performance pack. If you do have a ‘Scream On’  week, you better bring it the next week, though, because the voters will relax.

    Oh yeah, totally with you there. That’s what I was alluding to with this comment:

    If the two moments built up enough goodwill and fanbase support, America will even forgive you the one off-week, and it helps to bring it on home if, among the consistent performances, some of them are the best of the week.

    Panic voting after being “worse” happens only after you’ve built up enough goodwill/fanbase. And yeah, it doesn’t serve to ride on being mediocre too many weeks in a row. You need to remind voters that you could win by being the best of the week (even if they’re not “moments”) at least one more time beyond the 2 fanbase-establishing moments.

  105. Wow, who pissed in your cheerios this morning?

    Nobody. I’m just feisty. Plus, it really does look very much like a Liza hairdo to me (perhaps he was going as Liza the Vampire?). And I did tease myself about mentioning the material, but man, I swear that it’s the same stuff. It was uncanny.

  106. Eh, things could be worse. He could be sporting a pretty bad combover or a big ass bald spot in the back of his head.

    My Idol’s hair is better than your Idol’s hair! So There!

    GAH!

    Why is snark only funny when it’s directed at the “other guy”?

    Wow, who pissed in your cheerios this morning?

    I actually deleted this.

  107. And the material on that outfit reminds me of the free bag I got with my $35 purchase of Clinique. Meow.

    You get Skingraft leather bags with your purchase of Clinique? I want to shop where you shop. Dang.

  108. Wayne Isham who directed Cook’s LO video and All American Rejects “It Ends Tonight” …. did he direct Adam’s TFM?

  109. Why is snark only funny when it’s directed at the ‘other guy’ ?

    Kirsten started it first, Mom, I mean MJ!

  110. Where’s the pretty? Aside from Kris and the tall one in the back organic is not impressing me much.

    Really? I see lots of pretty + Conan O’Brien. But I think he’s the drummer so he gets a pass for being uber cool!

  111. ‘Well evidently Arhcie gavea 50 minute speech at the womens conference and sang one verse of OHN. Sounds like it went well. Got a standing ovation after he was finished.’ 

    Are we sure this wasn’t a Toastmasters meeting?

    But it is good to know he is safe and he endorses safe sex.

    I know I’ll be holding my breath waiting for his answer.

    Genuine question (no, really, it is!); is condom choice actually supposed to be an edgy thing?

    My genuine question, why should anyone but his boyfriend care?

    Eh, things could be worse. He could be sporting a pretty bad combover or a big ass bald spot in the back of his head.

    No, I think it’s worse to look like Liza Minelli … and seriously I thought that WAS Liza Minelli!

  112. My Idol’s hair is better than your Idol’s hair! So There!

    GAH!

    Why is snark only funny when it’s directed at the ‘other guy’ ?

    Mj- was that directed at Kirsten or me or both?

  113. Eh, things could be worse. He could be sporting a pretty bad combover or a big ass bald spot in the back of his head.

    I don’t really think he has a problem with balding in the back of his head. Just a receding hairline problem. :)

  114. Here’s Michael Slezak’s (unsurprisingly) positive remarks on Kris’ new songs/performances from yesterday

    http://popwatch.ew.com/2009/10/26/kris-allen-new-songs-dolphins/

    And as for the condom question, I have no problem with it. I’m assuming Adam practices safe sex. And although Details may be a magazine for white-collar adult men, the link/story will be posted all over the internet, including on boards such as IDF and ontd_ai — which have a high percentage of members who are in their teens or early 20’s.

  115. You get Skingraft leather bags with your purchase of Clinique? I want to shop where you shop.

    Too late! I think Skingraft bought out the Bay’s entire stock and have started making jackets out of it.

    Just be glad they didn’t take a shine to the purple-flowery bags that Sears was offering with their purchase. Although, it would rock if you were going for the late ’60s on Acid look.

  116. Here’s Michael Slezak’s (unsurprisingly) positive remarks on Kris’ new songs/performances from yesterday

    http://popwatch.ew.com/2009/10/26/kris-allen-new-songs-dolphins/

    Yeah, just read it. The polls show very positive marks for all three songs. My take – I think Can’t Stay Away has a lot of potential. The other two, even after multiple listens, weren’t really doing anything for me.

  117. Eh, things could be worse. He could be sporting a pretty bad combover or a big ass bald spot in the back of his head.

    My Idol’s hair is better than your Idol’s hair! So There!

    GAH!

    Why is snark only funny when it’s directed at the ‘other guy’ ?

    True sometimes, but NGL, I LOL’ed at both the combover and Liza comments, and I do love me some Cookie and Adam! :-) It happens.

    My take ‘“ I think Can’t Stay Away has a lot of potential. The other two, even after multiple listens, weren’t really doing anything for me.

    That’s exactly where I came out. I’m willing to hear better recordings though. Those were not good, imo.

  118. I have long believed that Simon only thinks people with big voices can be commercially successful. Which suggests he’s way behind the times, since that’s obviously not the case.

    This isn’t exactly about the Big Voice issue (Who had a bigger voice than Clay Aiken? And Simon hated him.) but on the issue of Simon’s hypocrisy in general. It was very interesting to me when, a few weeks ago on the X Factor, Simon was being all gushy about Robbie Williams and he said something like, “Robbie will be the first to tell you that he doesn’t have the best voice in the world, that there are lots of people who have better voices than he does. That’s what I love about him — that he is this huge star and he has this wonderful humility.” My jaw dropped, given his previous comments that refusing to say you have the best voice in the world is annoying.

    And that’s why I think Simon doesn’t know what he really thinks and why there are no hard and fast rules about what voices he appreciates or which singer he’s going to pick as his fave. Paraphrasing here… Leona Lewis, Stacy Solomon — “The thing I love about you is that you don’t know how good you really are.” David Cook — “You’re worthy. You’re smug. You’re arrogant. America isn’t going to vote for someone who comes off so pompous.” Kris Allen — “Your humility is off-putting. You need to be more arrogant. Use me as an example of the ego and arrogance you need.” One week “authentic” is the best thing someone can be and “theatrical” or “acting the song instead of singing it” is very, very bad. The next week “showy” or “dramatic” is very, very good and singing from the heart is boring.

    It doesn’t make any sense. I think Simon is not a genius, and he doesn’t necessarily have the best taste in the world, but he does have a huge amount of personal stake in his personal opinion. What he says, whatever strikes him as important in this moment in time, is suddenly gospel, and he expects the rest of us to take it that way even if it’s the opposite of what he said five minutes ago. He also knows that developing his own supposed truth-talking, snotty persona means some people out in TV Land will believe whatever he says and go along with what he tells them to do. The trick is that that seems to work in the early going, but not so much when push comes to shove. The week he finally liked Carly was the week she went home. The week he begged people to put Melinda in the finale was the week she went home. The night he said David Archuleta scored a knock-out was the night more people voted for David Cook. This week, when he said Danyl Johnson was so awesome he was in a totally different league than anyone else, Danyl was B2.

    Plus, of course, all of what he says is off-set by other producer tricks like the pimp spot and the lighting and the song choices and the outside press and the audition packages. Remember when WNTS tracked how much pre-semifinal-groups camera time each of the contestants had? There were 15 people who got the most possible promo pre-groups. And 11 of them made the top 13. The only two not in the heavily promo’d group? Allison and Kris. They also stacked the deck by going back to groups and wild cards, which gives the behind-the-scenes people much, much more power to determine who goes on. Felicia Barton, Jesse Langseth and Mishavonna Henson had no chance whatsoever. Matt Giraud, Megan, Danny, Adam and Lil, on the other hand, were pretty much guaranteed a slot.

    It will be interesting to see what format they use this year. If they really, really want a girl, they will go back to groups and an uneven gender balance in the Top 12 and Top 10. Or they will stack the deck with good girls and weak boys, with the hottest guy someone like JPL or George Huff. Right now it’s even steven — 4 male champions and 4 females — and the diversity of winners is pretty good, too, although it might be nice to see a winner of Latino or Asian ancestry. So we’ll see how the deck is stacked. In the meantime, X Factor is a fascinating look at Other Simon, who acts very different for the British audience. It’s fascinating.

  119. True sometimes, but NGL, I LOL’ed at both the combover and Liza comments, and I do love me some Cookie and Adam! It happens.

    LOL – Well Adam and Liza both have a thing for gay men why not share a hair do.

  120. I love Cookie to death but DC combover jokes are always funny IMO. So are jokes about available blondes and extremely large craniums. So there.

  121. I don’t really think he has a problem with balding in the back of his head. Just a receding hairline problem.

    I think the “bald spot” was referring to Kirs Allen, the “receding hairline” goes to Cookie, and Adam, well he just has a gorgeous head of hair … ;-) Heh

  122. Eh, things could be worse. He could be sporting a pretty bad combover or a big ass bald spot in the back of his head.

    I don’t really think he has a problem with balding in the back of his head. Just a receding hairline problem.

    LMAO, I just got done posting a hair comment on the DC Extreme Makeover thread. Here’s what I said:

    I kid and make fun of the thinning hair a lot (he’s clearly got a receding hairline situation on the sides that he could cover a lot better with a good cut and some daily attention with good hair products if AI7 was any indication), but I think the thin flat hair looks kinda cute in this picture. But I dunno, maybe I’m blinded by the smile.

    Anyway, I love DC, but I guess the snark on the hair is occasionally funny. So Adam has Liza hair. I saw both Adam and DC’s pictures in US weekly a while ago among the celebs who are supposedly sporting Kate Gosselin hair. Andrew Cook called out his brother on it on his radio show and on twitter. IMO it’s all got some truth, and it’s kinda funny.

    Wayne Isham who directed Cook’s LO video and All American Rejects ‘It Ends Tonight’  ‘ ¦. did he direct Adam’s TFM?

    Isham also directed Kelly’s MYWSWY video, IIRC. Seems he’s not cheap, but a go-to guy for Idols’ big first-single videos.

  123. Has anyone heard anything definite on

    1. When the music videos for Kris’ and Allison’s singles will be released?

    2. Whether Adam’s “true” single is really doing to be released this week?

    3. When Adam will shoot the MV for his “true” single?

  124. I love Cookie to death but DC combover jokes are always funny IMO. So are jokes about available blondes and extremely large craniums. So there.

    So sad I like David but I must not pay close attention to him, is he balding?

  125. Mj- was that directed at Kirsten or me or both?

    I didn’t compare hair between the Idol guys. I just saw a picture and snarked. Just like I snarked all over Kris when I saw the cover shot (ie. I don’t think it’s me).

    But I think he’s the drummer so he gets a pass for being uber cool!

    Yes, drummers seem to get the exception to the rule thing. They are rarely expected to be HAWT. I blame Ringo. Meow!

  126. It’s against the law for any Idol poll to show less than 90% strong approval. I haven’t check the numbers for Kris’ singles but I hope his fans aren’t slacking off and only giving the songs an 89% approval rating. :(

    I just checked and it turns out My Favorite Condom is one of the standard questions they ask of all the Idols in the top 24/36 Q & A. You should read Sarver’s response. It’s a real shocker.

    I can’t get into the hair fight. My fav Idols either have a full head of the stuff or are completely bald. So I’m officially neutral.

  127. The whole hair debate is cracking me up. Men go bald – not all but a large # – nothing we can do about it and if all 3 of these guys are comfortable int heir own skin whether balding or not, kudos to them.

    And I say that as someone marrie to 1 of 4 brothers and my husband is the only 1 not balding and the youngest is 5 and a half years younger. :)

  128. http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_13644242

    “Neatly dressed in a black slim-fitted suit and a pair of black-and-white sneakers, David Archuelta nervously stepped onto the podium to welcome the crowd Monday morning as the keynote speaker at Sen. Orrin Hatch’s 25th Annual Utah Conference for Women. ”

    ” In the singer’s speech, which clocked in at just over 50 minutes, the 18-year-old utilized self-deprecating humor and a stream-of-consciousness speaking style. “If you want to get better at something, you need to start in the first place,” Archuleta said. “Like speaking for me, but I didn’t avoid it today. I think that’s a good thing.”

    “Archuleta talked about his musical journey, which began when he was 6 years old, as well as the necessity of facing the future with optimism. “A lot of hard things can be going on in our lives, but there is always something great to be focusing on,” he said. “Even if you don’t see it in the right now, it’s amazing how things work out in the long run”

    ” At one point during the speech, he turned to Hatch to ask how much time he had left. “I tend to ramble, that’s the dangerous thing,” Archuleta admitted. “And it’s not just rambling, it’s like ‘what is this kid talking about?’
    Several fans at the back of the room shouted “sing, sing.” “I’m not done speaking yet,” Archuleta replied with shy confidence, drawing a roar of laughter. ”

    “”Boy, he can have a degree and Ph.D. in philosophy, is all I can say,” Hatch said as Archuleta walked off stage. ”

    more at link

  129. The whole hair debate is cracking me up. Men go bald ‘“ not all but a large # ‘“ nothing we can do about it and if all 3 of these guys are comfortable int heir own skin whether balding or not, kudos to them.

    And I say that as someone marrie to 1 of 4 brothers and my husband is the only 1 not balding and the youngest is 5 and a half years younger.

    They’re rockers they can shave their heads – although I don’t think I want to see Adam, Kris or David with a shaved head.

  130. So sad I like David but I must not pay close attention to him, is he balding?

    Either that or his head is expanding. Like a balloon.

  131. Liza Minnelli was my first thought when I saw the fangs picture, too. I had my hair like that for awhile, and people kept telling me it looked like Liza, so I changed it, cause I didn’t want to look like a 60-something crazy lady.

    Although maybe I should go back to it long enough to be a Brownish Area with Points for Halloween? It’s better than Bride of Frankenstein, which was my other choice.

  132. LOL tinawina. Can it get any bigger?! And I cannot believe Squirrely missed the Happy Together hair on Cook! Oh my, good times~

  133. I think the ‘bald spot’  was referring to Kirs Allen, the ‘receding hairline’  goes to Cookie

    Really? Kris has a bald spot in the back of his head? That’s news to me! Another follically challenged AI winner, wow! Haha.

    Squirrely, DC has a receding hairline and stringy bangs that occasionally resemble a combover when not cut/styled perfectly. The massive skull does not help this look.

    Yes, drummers seem to get the exception to the rule thing. They are rarely expected to be HAWT.

    Kyle from DC’s band is beyond hawt IMO… just sayin.

  134. Has anyone heard anything definite on
    1. When the music videos for Kris’ and Allison’s singles will be released?
    2. Whether Adam’s ‘true’  single is really doing to be released this week?
    3. When Adam will shoot the MV for his ‘true’  single?

    I haven’t, but want to add:
    4. When Allison’s single is going to be released?

    They’re going for radio adds, but still don’t have the single available for purchase?? I can’t figure out what they’re doing with her single.

    I heard a little blurb on one of the entertainment shows this weekend, (extra, maybe? those shows are all alike to me), and Adam was mentioning the MV for his “true” single, and said something along the lines that it’s very performance driven. So, maybe it has already been shot? Yes, I know that they were supposedly picking the single on Friday, but I suspect that there was a front-runner that had already been heard by the folks at the AMAs, etc.

    We do have Adam’s tweet that his single will be out this week, but “this week” seems to mean different things to different people, based on posts here. And, does out mean available for sale, or just that we get to hear it? So, I guess no definite answers there either.

    We’ll know soon, though. :)

  135. I think the ‘bald spot’  was referring to Kirs Allen, the ‘receding hairline’  goes to Cookie, and Adam has just a gorgeous head of hair ‘ ¦

    …and a bad complexion. Or so we heard over and over last season. I dunno… the same snark over and over does get a wee bit old. Just a wee bit. Unless we’re talking about Sarver’s emo tweeting, because that will never not be funny.

    ETA: And the flatiron accident that was the Happy Together hair.

  136. I think the ‘bald spot’  was referring to Kirs Allen, the ‘receding hairline’  goes to Cookie, and Adam, well he just has a gorgeous head of hair ‘ ¦ Heh

    I’m gonna go find a pic of the back of Kris’ head now. I’m intrigued.

    I kid and make fun of the thinning hair a lot (he’s clearly got a receding hairline situation on the sides that he could cover a lot better with a good cut and some daily attention with good hair products if AI7 was any indication), but I think the thin flat hair looks kinda cute in this picture

    Rogaine! :) :)

  137. Heh…the Adam fang picture has to be a fake….MJ said that:

    According to internet reports, Adam’s private gig last night was Halloween-themed, with Adam decked out in all-black, vampire fangs, and Emo hair.

    So either MJ is wrong, the picture is wrong, or I am color blind.

    Wonder if someone would take the time to make a phony facebook account. Nah!

  138. “Either that or his head is expanding. Like a balloon.”

    *DIES*

  139. Several fans at the back of the room shouted ‘sing, sing.’  ‘I’m not done speaking yet,’  Archuleta replied with shy confidence, drawing a roar of laughter. ‘ 

    That is such a great comeback from Archie !! Whoulda thunk it?

    Archie really just gets better, and better. Still can’t believe he was asked to be the keynote speaker, (even if it was for a Utah event).

  140. Gossip candy has another picture from the Party City facebook page. Looks to be the Ring of Fire jacket as opposed to a plastic bag. Link is in MJs “Adam Lambert Tweets” thread.

  141. I dunno’ ¦ the same snark over and over does get a wee bit old. Unless we’re talking about Sarver’s emo tweeting, because that will never not be funny.

    Poor Michael. He’s been pretty good lately.

  142. Kris is definitely losing his hair in the back. It’s been a topic on many a thread on other boards. His brother Daniel, who is slightly more than a year younger than Kris, is already pretty much bald — much more so than Kris. And his dad has a big bald spot in the back of his head (although he has a lot of hair otherwise), so it obviously runs in the family.

  143. excerpts below, more at the link…

    Archuleta’s voice soars at Hatch’s Women’s Conference

    Former “American Idol” contestant David Archuleta sings during a women’s conference Monday at Abravanel Hall in Salt Lake City. Archuleta also spoke as part of the 25th Utah Women’s Conference…

    … “When at first I was asked to speak at this, I thought it was kind of funny,” Archuleta said, flashing his signature boyish smile. “A David Archuleta speech for me is like an oxymoron. I’ve never been good at speaking.”

    … Hatch called himself one of Archuleta’s biggest supporters, saying he and his wife placed voting calls when the singer was competing on the seventh season of Fox’s “American Idol” competition.

    In the singer’s speech, which clocked in at just over 50 minutes, the 18-year-old utilized self-deprecating humor and a stream-of-consciousness speaking style. “If you want to get better at something, you need to start in the first place,” Archuleta said. “Like speaking for me, but I didn’t avoid it today. I think that’s a good thing.”

    … Several fans at the back of the room shouted “sing, sing.” “I’m not done speaking yet,” Archuleta replied with shy confidence, drawing a roar of laughter…. The room went silent as the young singer’s voice soared a capella, drawing a standing ovation from the crowd.

    …”Boy, he can have a degree and Ph.D. in philosophy, is all I can say,” Hatch said as Archuleta walked off stage. “I have so much admiration for him, not only for his extraordinary talent, but his strong character and example. It’s a tough business to be in.”

    http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_13644242

  144. sunchick
    October 26, 2009 at 2:32 pm
    I think the ‘bald spot’  was referring to Kirs Allen, the ‘receding hairline’  goes to Cookie, and Adam has just a gorgeous head of hair ‘ ¦

    ‘ ¦and a bad complexion. Or so we heard over and over last season. I dunno’ ¦ the same snark over and over does get a wee bit old. Just a wee bit. Unless we’re talking about Sarver’s emo tweeting, because that will never not be funny.

    Excuse me but I was referring to the post where someone thought Cook was accused of having both the bald spot AND the receding hair, when in fact, I thought the original snarker was applyting the bald spot to Kris. I could be wrong, but I have read Kris has a bald spot.
    No need to bring bad skin into the conversation…
    Like ya said, that snark gets old… (sheesh)

  145. Kris is definitely losing his hair in the back.

    Wow! Kris is lucky it’s not apparent in the front at all. I never knew in all his TV appearances, photos. DC on the other hand, shows up in press photos with those stringy badly positioned bangs far too often IMO.

  146. Gossip Candy have their tin hats on today. They crack me up over there.

  147. Excuse me but […] No need to bring bad skin into the conversation’ ¦ Like ya said, that snark gets old’ ¦ (sheesh)

    In the fine words of MJ:

    GAH!

    Why is snark only funny when it’s directed at the ‘other guy’ ?

    DC has a receding hairline, Kris has a bald spot (previously unknown to me), and Adam has (had?) bad skin. Whatevs. Part of the appeal of AI is that these are “real people” and we get to see their flaws and whatnot, not these perfect pop stars or whatever. It’s all good.

  148. mikejones1

    #great ride this morning..meeting with Allison and band today for future tour..getting ready for trip to Abu Dhabi with Aerosmith this week..about 1 hour ago from web

    future tour for Allison!

  149. DC on the other hand, shows up in press photos with those stringy badly positioned bangs far too often IMO.

    Hey, those stringy, badly positioned bangs have a name in the fandom, you know. The Locktopus! Hair products can only control it for so long before it rears its ugly tentacles yet again.

    smallie, you forgot to mention Cook’s ginormous noggin. Also a source of funny in the fandom.

  150. Hey, those stringy, badly positioned bangs have a name in the fandom, you know. The Locktopus! Hair products can only control it for so long before it rears its ugly tentacles yet again.

    smallie, you forgot to mention Cook’s ginormous noggin. Also a source of funny in the fandom.

    You kid because you love??

  151. NGL, if I were sitting listening to Archie wax philosophical for 50 minutes, I’d be screaming for him to sing too! ;-P

    ETA: sunchick, please never hold back on your musings. You have me rolling. Hell, you even had me dig up the Happy Together vid from the vault, for fun and good times! Oh my… that was some bad hair days for Cookie…

  152. Sorry listen, my bad, obviously that did not come off the way I meant it. Just musing out loud that every Idol gets the snark directed at them at some point. Price of being in the public eye. Often it’s funny. Sometimes it gets repetitive. In retrospect, probably should have kept that particular musing to myself.

  153. Hm, maybe Adam’s bad skin was a result of too much makeup from the Zodiac Show and Broadway? That stuff it terrible for the complexion and pores. But I’m sure he can get that taken care of. Everyone has problem areas, I guess. Not a big deal.

  154. Hey, those stringy, badly positioned bangs have a name in the fandom, you know. The Locktopus! Hair products can only control it for so long before it rears its ugly tentacles yet again.

    I forgot about the locktopus. I lurked hardcore on TWOP back in the day. Too funny and true.

    smallie, you forgot to mention Cook’s ginormous noggin. Also a source of funny in the fandom.

    I actually did mention the massive skull in an earlier post. But overshadowed by tinawina’s hilarious expanding balloon commment, I think.

    You kid because you love??

    Absolutely. And now I’ve way exceeded my quota on comments on DC’s hair (or lack thereof).

  155. Either that or his head is expanding. Like a balloon.

    Nah, he’s just growing taller than his hair.

    ETA:

    You kid because you love??

    I’m still waiting for a response to my application to be fan #1 in the DC fandom. Love the dude. Love his music.

  156. David Cook needs to buzz his hair short. As in a crew cut. His hair’s not coming back. Ever. Be brave, Dave. Just do it.

    Adam Lambert needs to stop dying his hair and eyebrows a deathly shade of black and get rid of that orange pancake makeup. You look better without all that shit, Adam. Really. Don’t you wonder what you really look like after all these years?

    Kris, get that no. 3 razor out and prepare to buzz it all off. You’ll look fine without it. Daughty does, and you’re cuter than he is.

  157. David Cook needs to buzz his hair short. As in a crew cut. His hair’s not coming back. Ever. Be brave, Dave. Just do it.

    Adam Lambert needs to stop dying his hair and eyebrows a deathly shade of black and get rid of that orange pancake makeup. You look better without all of that shit, Adam. Really. Don’t you wonder what you really look like after all these years?

    Kris, get that no. 2 razor out and prepare to buzz it all off. You’ll look fine without it. Daughty does, and you’re cuter than he is.

    Extreme Makeover, AI Edition


  158. PS ‘“ for people who think there’s no interest in Kris, ontd_ai threads on yesterday’s concert have exceeded 10,000 comments”

    I looked on ontdia and could not find 10,000 hits or comments for Kris…the most he got were about 300…about equal with Adam, but Adam had more threads written about him…please provide the link because I would like to see it..thank you

  159. Adam Lambert needs to stop dying his hair and eyebrows a deathly shade of black and get rid of that orange pancake makeup. You look better without all of that shit, Adam. Really. Don’t you wonder what you really look like after all these years?

    LMAO. Now wouldn’t that make an awesome Extreme Makeover Reveal, heh?

    eta: Too slow. Well, Kellie Pickler certain got some enhancement work, didn’t she?

  160. Adam Lambert needs to stop dying his hair and eyebrows a deathly shade of black and get rid of that orange pancake makeup. You look better without all of that shit, Adam. Really. Don’t you wonder what you really look like after all these years?

    He’s a chameleon and I love it. Seriously no two pictures ever look the same with him.

  161. nnadinola

    If you aren’t an ontd_ai member, you won’t be able to see those Kris threads — or most of the threads on the site. Most threads are members-locked quickly after they are started

    But they started a 3rd separate thread about Kris’ tailgate concert early this a.m. Once a thread hits 5000 comments, it is “captcha” and a new thread on the topic is started. So the first 2 threads on that topic hit the 5000+ comment mark.

    (as someone commented earlier, it is fairly common for threads on the ontd_ai site to hit the captcha mark”)

  162. If anyone is a fan of Alisan Porter “(close friend of Adam’s), her debut CD is available now (for download only)! I love her voice…

    ali22san

    BUY MY DEBUT ALBUM!!!! http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/Al…34 minutes ago from web

  163. I’m still waiting for a response to my application to be fan #1 in the DC fandom. Love the dude. Love his music.

    Me too ;)

  164. someone on ontd_ai won a Miami radio station contest and is getting a 1-on-1 with Kris today. Lucky bench…

    Why do I never win these things? Sniff…

  165. It’s common for some daily, regularly-scheduled ONTD_AI posts to hit Captcha (5000 comments), but usually not 2 Captchas on one topic, so I think that made the Kris threads fun yesterday (hence the excess flailing), and they’re on #3 this morning for the Miami concert. People are still uploading HQ videos and photos to separate posts. There were quite a few ONTD_AI peeps there yesterday. Some Adam threads might have also hit two Captchas (probably very likely), but I don’t pay that close attention to those.

  166. He continously said that Kris was not good enough to measure up to Adam and Danny.

    IMO he wasn’t good enough at the beginning of the show or even at the end of the show. That’s the problem with AI…..the talent doesn’t always win. That’s why I will never become invested in it again.

  167. David Cook needs to buzz his hair short. As in a crew cut. His hair’s not coming back. Ever. Be brave, Dave. Just do it.

    Adam Lambert needs to stop dying his hair and eyebrows a deathly shade of black and get rid of that orange pancake makeup. You look better without all of that shit, Adam. Really. Don’t you wonder what you really look like after all these years?

    Kris, get that no. 2 razor out and prepare to buzz it all off. You’ll look fine without it. Daughty does, and you’re cuter than he is.

    Honestly not a fan of the bald look. (and sadly my husband is getting there far too quickly). Would lke to see DC – and eventually Kris – try rogaine or plugs or something. No rugs or combovers – to obvious and not flattering in the least.

    Adam would most likely look like a very freckled version of his father without the hair dye and makeup, which isn’t a bad thing. It just doesn’t quite make the same statement he would without the darker look.

    And, personally, I would not recommend to anyone to try to look like Daughtry. Not even the folks I didn’t like. But it is a very rare man, IMHO, who looks good without hair.

  168. Kris, get that no. 3 razor out and prepare to buzz it all off. You’ll look fine without it. Daughty does, and you’re cuter than he is.

    Nah, I’m not sure. Daughtry is one of the few lucky white guys who look macho with shaved head. I really can’t imagine bald Kris. He better go with hair plant. Cook too. He can’t keep doing that comb over thing. I don’t know Kris’ brother is alreay bald. Is it common at that age?

  169. Keel ‘“ I thought I was the number one Cook fan round here!

    No way. It’s me, dammit!

    Extreme Makeover, AI Edition

    David already got that one, lol. Happy Together hair has not reappeared yet. Please don’t reappear. Well, maybe he’s got the Locktopus going on sometimes but… he was sure purty at the last two shows I went to. I don’t think I look much at the hair, though. I’m too fond of the smile/lips/arms/whatever. *grin*

  170. Absolutely. And now I’ve way exceeded my quota on comments on DC’s hair (or lack thereof).

    *checks log book* Yes, I do believe you have exceeded your hair quota. Sorry. Don’t shoot the messenger. However, by my calculations, you do have one gargantuan cranium snark left in your allotment for today. *tucks log book back into super seekrit hiding place behind scary Cook shrine and confiscated number one fan applications*

    :D

  171. Adam Lambert, Allison Janney, Anne Heche, Antonio Sabato Jr, Ashlee Simpson, Ashley Tisdale, Ben Vereen, Berry Gordy, Carrie Ann Inaba, Corbin Bleu, Dana Delaney, David Cook, Eric Winter, Forest Whitaker, Fran Drescher, George Lopez, Jaime King, Jamie Kennedy, JC Chasez, Jennifer Love Hewitt, Jose Eber, Kate Beckinsale et Len Wiseman, Kate Del Castillo, Mario Lopez, Michael Rapaport, Mike Tyson, Neil Patrick Harris, P. Diddy, Paula Abdul, Paris Hilton, Ray Liotta, Regina Hall, Reverand Al Sharpton, Sharon Lawrence, Smokey Robinson, Snoop Dogg, Sugar Ray Leonard, Tyrese Gibson, Viola Davis et Vivica A Fox.

    The only ones I’ll be interested in seeing.

  172. Kris is definitely losing his hair in the back. It’s been a topic on many a thread on other boards. His brother Daniel, who is slightly more than a year younger than Kris, is already pretty much bald ‘” much more so than Kris. And his dad has a big bald spot in the back of his head (although he has a lot of hair otherwise), so it obviously runs in the family.

    Guys supposedly inherit their tendency toward baldness or not from their mother’s side. I’ve always heard a guy’s maternal grandfather is the best indicator of what his hair will be like.

  173. *tucks log book back into super seekrit hiding place behind scary Cook shrine and confiscated number one fan applications*

    LOL. I was wondering where my application had disappeared to! :D

  174. I’m sorry but Daughtry’s head is every bit as big as Cook’s.

    Do you think Daughtry’s head is bigger because some of Cook’s circumference could be chalked up to his hair?

    Also, I think Bruce Willis is the best looking bald guy, followed by Woody Harrelson.

  175. Kris is definitely losing his hair in the back.

    I had never noticed this (maybe just saw too many pics of him from the front). What were we referencing this off of? (or did it just randomly come up?)

  176. Also, I think Bruce Willis is the best looking bald guy, followed by Woody Harrelson.

    Patrick Stewart

  177. David Cook’s name is on that list too.

    Sorry I didn’t notice it. I did not watch AI last year so Cook and Archie don’t have a lot of meaning for me. I have listened to LO and I like it though. Just don’t follow either much.

  178. Also, I think Bruce Willis is the best looking bald guy, followed by Woody Harrelson.

    You mean ‘white’ bald guy right? There are a ton a famous black men who look waaaay better then Bruce and Woody combined. Check out the NBA for starters – LOL

  179. I’m sorry but Daughtry’s head is every bit as big as Cook’s.

    You’ve either not seen the infamous baby pic or you’ve bleached it from your mind. ;-)

  180. OK. Why do the French know that Adam will be at the red carpet premiere tonight but we (US) do not?

  181. Yo

    u mean ‘white’ bald guy right? There are a ton a famous black men who look waaaay better then Bruce and Woody combined. Check out the NBA for starters ‘“ LOL

    You are correct! I have to agree with you that the NBA guys are better looking. As far as pale heads, I’ll stick with my list.

  182. Also, I think Bruce Willis is the best looking bald guy, followed by Woody Harrelson.

    Who’s that guy on the Transporter? He’s my vote for hot bald guy.

    David Cook’s name is on that list too.

    If David is doing that red carpet thing, too… isn’t that one crazy schedule he has for the past few days?! Maybe they mean Dane Cook. lol

  183. Looks like Adam is going to be on the Red Carpet for TII tomorrow night.

    This has probably already been mentioned, but also Adam’s appearance on Oprah is scheduled for Thursday according to TV Guide. Randy Jackson is also scheduled.

  184. Mj- was that directed at Kirsten or me or both?

    It was directed to anyone who plays the “You dissed/criticized my Idol, now I’ll diss/criticize yours” game.

  185. Who’s that guy on the Transporter? He’s my vote for hot bald guy.

    Jason something – he’s hawt and Vin Diesel.

  186. “Once you vote, the site puts a cookie on your computer that won’t allow you to vote again”

    American Idol should use this system so the votes would be fair

  187. Dallas
    October 26, 2009 at 4:00 pm
    OK. Why do the French know that Adam will be at the red carpet premiere tonight but we (US) do not?

    Well the report is in French but it was filed from Montreal, Canada. And it is from the US Press Release. They just put it up online first.

  188. I’m sorry but Daughtry’s head is every bit as big as Cook’s.

    You’ve either not seen the infamous baby pic or you’ve bleached it from your mind.

    Plus Daughtry’s head isn’t shaped like a melon! Just sayin’… ;)

  189. In retrospect, probably should have kept that particular musing to myself.

    Nah, Sunchick, I find it refreshing when fans can snark on their favs. In fact, I try to make my blog a safe place where a fan can do that, without fear of being questioned or piled on.

  190. By way of Allison’s twitter, she’s recording Friday I’ll be over U in Spanish :) She sounds VERY excited about it too.

    Allison4Realzzz Recordin’ FIBOU in………
    24 minutes ago from Echofon

    Allison4Realzzz SPANISH!!!!!!
    24 minutes ago from Echofon

  191. ‘Once you vote, the site puts a cookie on your computer that won’t allow you to vote again’ 

    American Idol should use this system so the votes would be fair

    It’s very easy to dump the cookie. Plus multiple browsers. Or multiple computer teams. (one person votes all 5 browsers on one computer, while the other person clears the cookies on another, and then they switch, so someone is always voting within the time frame.) Power voting would still happen.

  192. Do you think Daughtry’s head is bigger because some of Cook’s circumference could be chalked up to his hair?

    I wish there was an old picture of Daughtry with hair so I could properly compare heads and decide which is bigger.
    But I must say Cook’s has a weirder shape.
    I keed ‘cuz I love.

  193. FYI Kris is picking up some sale on itune he’s 126 at the moment.

    Question- When the numbers come out on Wednesday will they include the sales for Want and NoBo for Adam, I’m curious as to how many afterthought sales they picked up?

  194. I don’t think I look much at the hair, though. I’m too fond of the smile/lips/arms/whatever. *grin*

    He does sort of have those bee stung lips.

  195. Also computer voting limits voting to only those WITH computers. Everyone has a phone.

  196. He does sort of have those bee stung lips.

    Holy Rogaine! I wish would have thought of that.

  197. Who’s that guy on the Transporter? He’s my vote for hot bald guy.

    LOL, I was just coming to post that: Jason Statham! He was on Leno with Cook and Miley Cyrus if I recall correctly.

  198. LOL, DC and Andrew Cook are having a hilarious Twitter war right now. (Read from the bottom up:

    thedavidcook When you think of a comeback, @ACookOfficial, you look like you’re constipated and in a hurry
    half a minute ago from mobile web

    ACookOfficial @thedavidcook you’re welcome
    1 minute ago from web

    thedavidcook No, @ACookOfficial, that’s my wallet getting ready to by your meal… Again…
    3 minutes ago from mobile web

    ACookOfficial @thedavidcook good job scooting out of the booth. Is that a bead of sweat I see fat ass?
    13 minutes ago from web

    thedavidcook @ACookOfficial I tipped her by telling her not to listen to AC on KCRadio. She thanked me profusely.
    21 minutes ago from mobile web

    ACookOfficial @thedavidcook, WOW! I can’t believe you didn’t tip the waitress!
    26 minutes ago from web

    thedavidcook @ACookOfficial you have an ugly face coming off your face right now at your entire life.
    about 1 hour ago from mobile web

    ACookOfficial @thedavidcook, you have an ugly smell coming off your face right now at lunch.
    about 1 hour ago from web

  199. I’ll agree Bruce Willis is a good looking bald guy, he has the sexiest smile. The guy that plays Morgan on Criminal Minds, the black FBI agent, is another great looking baldy.

  200. FYI Kris is picking up some sale on itune he’s 126 at the moment.

    If this means sales are increasing (#126), what was it before?

  201. Is anyone reading the convo between Cook and Andrew on twitter? They’re fighting. haha

    ETA: kc4dc beat me too it.

  202. Question- When the numbers come out on Wednesday will they include the sales for Want and NoBo for Adam

    If they sold enough, which I don’t think they did. Normally, we only ever get access to some of the Top 200 downloaded songs for the week. I’m not sure they got that high.

    But, try asking Brian over at Idol Chatter. He can sometimes get extra numbers if he is asked politely. Prime the pump by asking on the radio thread today.

  203. Has the Extreme Makeover Edition with Kellie Pickler been shown yet??

  204. thedavidcook When you think of a comeback, @ACookOfficial, you look like you’re constipated and in a hurry
    half a minute ago from mobile web

    LMAO :)

  205. Has the Extreme Makeover Edition with Kellie Pickler been shown yet??

    Nopie.

  206. If they sold enough, which I don’t think they did. Normally, we only ever get access to some of the Top 200 downloaded songs for the week. I’m not sure they got that high.

    No I don’t think it made it out of 300.

    ETA :

    If this means sales are increasing (#126), what was it before?

    It had fallen lower – so it’s risen a bit.

  207. It was directed to anyone who plays the ‘You dissed/criticized my Idol, now I’ll diss/criticize yours’  game.

    Mj- I have no idea who Kirsten’s favorite idol is and I referred to two different idols. I know Adam has some out there hairstyles, and I am certainly not a fan of all of them, but I honestly do think it’s worse to have a combover or bald spot.

    But I get what you are saying. Allowed to snark. Not allowed to snark back.

  208. wonder how do they really enforce that one-vote-per-day rule? I’ll have to go back and take a look, but thanks for the clarification.

    Once you vote, the site puts a cookie on your computer that won’t allow you to vote again.

    But most fan groups worth their salt will post explicit directions on how to get around those pesky cookies to vote as many times you’d like.

    Removing cookies only works if you have a dynamic IP addresses — most computers have static IP addresses and it is very easy to eliminate these “cookie remover votes”. There are also ways to ID multiple votes for a dynamic IP address but, to my knowledge, these techniques are not in use for online contest voting.

  209. In the other thread Mysterioso was calling people bitches – and cheerio pissing gets deleted – I’m so confused…

  210. The guy that plays Morgan on Criminal Minds, the black FBI agent, is another great looking baldy.

    LL Cool J! And yes, smokin smokin SMOKIN hawt. Saw him in concert last year at a theme park.

  211. PRMari :By way of Allison’s twitter, she’s recording Friday I’ll be over U in Spanish She sounds VERY excited about it too.

    Thats good.
    Now, this version of FIBOU, is it going to be on the “Just Like You” album, or another album? Possibly an international release? or a stand-alone single…

  212. When I think of bald guy the first guy that comes to mind is Howie from Deal or No Deal.

    ETA: And Phil Stacey.

  213. Adam lambert needs to stop dying his hair and eyebrows a deathly shade of black and get rid of that orange pancake makeup.

    Yes! Get rid of that orange pancake makeup! But keep the raven hair, he looks hotter with it :D

    Kris, get that no. 2 razor out and prepare to buzz it all off. You’ll look fine without it. Daughtry does, and you’re cuter than he is.

    I agree, Daughtry looks just fine and Kris is cuter… Not with bald hair tho :p

  214. Studio57
    October 26, 2009 at 4:50 pm
    But I get what you are saying. Allowed to snark. Not allowed to snark back.

    This is where I get confused. Does this mean allowed to snark at others’ favs (but isn’t that baiting?) or allowed to snark about one’s own favorite only?

    Semantics, but I don’t post 75% of the things I’m thinking simply because I’m not sure how they will be read. Snark, sarcasm, etc. is so hard to read when you can’t see someone’s facial expression.

  215. Now, this version of FIBOU, is it going to be on the ‘Just Like You’  album, or another album? Possibly an international release? or a stand-alone single’ ¦

    Obviously she didn’t say but I’m guessing it’ll be a single only. I just think it’s pretty encouraging that they’re letting her record something in Spanish so soon. I didn’t think they’d let her go for that until much later.

  216. alaadam

    Yesterday morning, prior to Kris’ tailgate concert, LLWD was at #141 on iTunes. And I think earlier in the weekend it had been even lower, somewhere around #150.

    So it’s moved up 15 spots anyway…

    Of course, it’s been doing this the last couple weeks…move up about 5-15 spots, than go back down again as the week progressed.

  217. Rub
    October 26, 2009 at 4:57 pm
    PRMari :By way of Allison’s twitter, she’s recording Friday I’ll be over U in Spanish She sounds VERY excited about it too.

    Thats good.
    Now, this version of FIBOU, is it going to be on the ‘Just Like You’  album, or another album? Possibly an international release? or a stand-alone single’ ¦

    I totally hope it’s a standalone single on iTunes available to everyone. I would buy it. I have Christina Aguilera songs in Spanish, long-time fan of Gloria Estefan and also I’m a Shakira fan. I would absolutely support Allison singing in Spanish. And no, after taking Spanish for years in high school, I don’t really speak a word of it. But I love how it sounds. ;)

  218. sunchick
    October 26, 2009 at 4:53 pm
    The guy that plays Morgan on Criminal Minds, the black FBI agent, is another great looking baldy.

    LL Cool J! And yes, smokin smokin SMOKIN hawt. Saw him in concert last year at a theme park.

    LL Cool J is not on Criminal Minds, he’s on NCIS-Los Angeles, and yeah, very hot. Isn’t it Shemar Moore you’re talking about on Criminal Minds?? He used to be on Young & the Restless. Had the nude pictures..lol.

  219. Yes, cindym. I just posted the same thing on the previous page. Shemar Moore is on Criminal Minds.

  220. Studio57
    October 26, 2009 at 4:50 pm
    But I get what you are saying. Allowed to snark. Not allowed to snark back.

    This is where I get confused. Does this mean allowed to snark at others’ favs (but isn’t that baiting?) or allowed to snark about one’s own favorite only?

    I thought MJ meant no retaliatory snark. You get angered over a comment and want to hit back. Snarking in general seems okay, but it can cross the line if the intention is to get a rise. I’m sure MJ has a better answer.

  221. Obviously she didn’t say but I’m guessing it’ll be a single only. I just think it’s pretty encouraging that they’re letting her record something in Spanish so soon. I didn’t think they’d let her go for that until much later.

    Very interesting indeed!
    Christina Aguilera had Genie in a Bottle almost side by side if I remember correctly. Its interesting to me the strategy for Allison as bilingual artist, and how would they market her. It’s weird that the English version isn’t even out yet. I can see how they may have big plans for her, but the execution is odd.

  222. FifthHouseSun

    ‘Once you vote, the site puts a cookie on your computer that won’t allow you to vote again’ 

    American Idol should use this system so the votes would be fair

    It’s very easy to dump the cookie. Plus multiple browsers. Or multiple computer teams. (one person votes all 5 browsers on one computer, while the other person clears the cookies on another, and then they switch, so someone is always voting within the time frame.) Power voting would still happen.

    The people who manage the contest voting are not that simply fooled. You would have to use a dynamic IP address and continue to start new internet sessions OR use some illegal (in the US) “hacker” software the will mask your IP address.

    I am sitting here thinking about how much time and energy people spend casting votes for these contests that are eliminated on the first vote validation process. My recommendation, don’t bother power voting for People Choice Awards.

    I am certain that there are some really smart, passionate fans out there who can figure out how to game the system. But your average Idol fan isn’t going to be able to do it.

    It is a lot easier to game the AmIdol Final phone voting system then it is these online contests. All you need to do to beat Idol is cast illegal, systematic votes for the one you don’t want to win — the votes you cast get eliminated and also block valid votes. And the way the voting is set up on Idol, there is no way they can do anything about it — except figure out a new voting system. The only way you wouldn’t knock out the other guy is if he had a massive advantage in text votes — so pair it with a texting campaign for your guy and you surely win.

  223. rowenaaine, me too I love Christina Aguilera and her duet with Ricky Martin – she kills it.
    I like the idea a lot.

  224. Hi, guys! RL day. So…I Adam (and Cook?) will be on TII red carpet! Woot!

    Did anyone post this? Allisan Porter (Adam’s friend and maybe co-writer on his album, please say yes, RCA/Adam!) just put out an album:

    @cctexasgirl I wrote em all!5 minutes ago from UberTwitter in reply to cctexasgirl

    @runawaysu ipod or itunes? If u download it from cdbaby u can put it IN your itunes.36 minutes ago from UberTwitter in reply to runawaysu

    ali22san @suebrody1 just went up on cdbby today they have to asses it. Then itunes.

    Hey Guys!!!! Go buy my solo debut album!!!! Available for download @ Cdbaby.com/cd/alisanporter!!!!!about 2 hours ago from UberTwitter

    Alisan is very excited! I told her I would post it here, so I did and I am going to download it now. BUY HER ALBUM. (Shocked Adam hasn’t tweeted about it yet; guess he’s kind of busy. ;))

  225. It’s weird that the English version isn’t even out yet. I can see how they may have big plans for her, but the execution is odd.

    The single has it’s radio add date just tomorrow. It’ll be out for sale about a week after that.

  226. ALISAN PORTER’s new CD is amazing!
    Strongly
    recommend checking it out!
    She is still waiting to hear whether the song that she, Ferras and Ely wrote with Adam is making it on to “FYE” –

    If it’s anything like the rest of the incredible music she has produced on this new album (and Ferras’s extraordinary album “Aliens & Rainbows”), then it will explode off of Adam’s new CD..

    Hoping the best for her!

    MJ – can you do a separate post about Alisan’s new CD? Thanks! ;)

  227. Kris, get that no. 3 razor out and prepare to buzz it all off. You’ll look fine without it. Daughty does, and you’re cuter than he is.

    Having seen Kris with a really short buzz cut to where he was almost bald, I’m going to say that he’s not one of those guys that I think look good bald. So I’m okay with the bald spot in back, and sadly, other spots on the side as well. His hair is definitely thinning, but I still think it looks good now and he look with it.

    And I am also fine with Cook’s thinning hair and combover look. Sure, I like his hair sometimes more than others, but I still think he and his large head are just fine.

    The only time I thought Adam’s make-up was orange was that Today Show appearance and that was done by the make-up staff, who obviously hated him. He looked like he had been dusted by the Cheeto fairies. That or the make-up person was channelling their inner Willy Wonka fan and decided to unleash their Oompa Loompa fetish on Adam that day. It was tragic. But while it sometimes can be thick (too?) I haven’t seen Adam with orange make-up since then. But YMMV and all that.

    Oh and don’t think that TII will boost TfM’s sales, because I don’t think that Adam will be featured much in it, if at all. I think it’s just going to be a movie trailer with Adam’s music, not that MV. Which given how cheesy those CGI effects were, is probably to the better. jmho on all of that.

  228. In the other thread Mysterioso was calling people bitches ‘“ and cheerio pissing gets deleted ‘“ I’m so confused’ ¦

    It’s impossible to figure out the rules, you can drive yourself fu*king crazy trying.

  229. ALISAN PORTER’s new CD is amazing!

    Is there a way to pre listen to any of the tracks on her cd? Myspace or something? Anyone has the link to buy the cd?

  230. It’s weird that the English version isn’t even out yet. I can see how they may have big plans for her, but the execution is odd.

    The single has it’s radio add date just tomorrow. It’ll be out for sale about a week after that.

    So they’re putting out a song that people won’t be able to buy? Doesn’t that seem kinda broken?

  231. PRMari

    It’s weird that the English version isn’t even out yet. I can see how they may have big plans for her, but the execution is odd.

    The single has it’s radio add date just tomorrow. It’ll be out for sale about a week after that.

    The only odd thing about the release schedule for Allison’s single IMO is that they leaked the song so early. But I think that they want the airplay to build demand for the song because Alli’s fanbase isn’t as large as Kris’, Adam’s or Danny’s. So it makes sense to me.

    But the way they released LLWD is very strange to me. And I just don’t understand the Kris strategy. For example, why did they had Kris debut his new songs at the Miami Dolphins event rather than an event in a major media center.

    If they put Alli in Miami doing both English and Spanish songs from her album, then it would make sense to me — it is a media and cultural hub for Latin America.

  232. So they’re putting out a song that people won’t be able to buy? Doesn’t that seem kinda broken?

    No different than what they did with Jordin’s Battlefield and a bunch of other singles. It gives them time to get radio play and get people to know the song so that when it comes out for sale people will know to look for it.

  233. http://www.accesshollywood.com/behind-the-scenes-adam-lamberts-time-for-miracles_video_1169377

    Very cool. See, the video for TfM *is* good. Look who directed it! ;)

    Did the video differ slightly from the one I have on my desktop? I think so. Wonder which one gets shown tomorrow and if it’s the same one that is played at the end of the 2012 film. I do not know this b/c I am easiy confused and am waiting for a new Adam thread (KIDDING!!!).

    God, I’m excited for the premier, but I think gampire Adam is hot, for the record. I am sure he figured out a way to sing with the teeth, Robert Pattison and a host of others have with their fangs. :)

  234. ALISAN PORTER’s new CD is amazing!

    Is there a way to pre listen to any of the tracks on her cd? Myspace or something? Anyone has the link to buy the cd?

    Here is the link:

    Cdbaby.com/cd/alisanporter

    I do not think it is on myspace, but I can tweet her. ;)

    @YO_RANDYJACKSON who’s Alison!!! ALi-SAN! hahahahaabout 1 hour ago from web in reply to YO_RANDYJACKSON

    lol, I have to buy this sucker and figure out how to get it into iTunes…I love her and Ferras. If they make Adam’s record, there will be fireworks. If Aimee Mayo does, Twitter will explode.

  235. Q3…

    Silly question…if you have multiple users on a single computer, they would all be the same address right. Or when different people log in (like at a library) are they given different addresses.

    I know nothing about computers.

  236. No different than what they did with Jordin’s Battlefield and a bunch of other singles. It gives them time to get radio play and get people to know the song so that when it comes out for sale people will know to look for it.

    Gotcha and that makes sense given that she doesn’t have a huge fanbase.

    I think the song can do very well, I think it’s very catchy and pop-y in fairly good ways. Not a great song to me and not Allison enough to me, but cute, fun and current. My favourite of all the three idol songs out right now. But I’m hoping that Adam’s real single is good, and yeah, hope I like it better than FIBOU, but I’m not holding my breath for that at this point.

    I just want them to start doing some advertising and stuff for Allison’s song, because I don’t see them doing that right now, and after that weird aborted sale thing, I’m worried about what they’re doing for her. I want her to do well, after all.

  237. It’s impossible to figure out the rules, you can drive yourself fu*king crazy trying.

    Maybe it’s like this. Someone can say Adam sucks. You can say you disagree, you think he’s great. But you can’t say Kris sucks. At least till some time passes and it no longer *seems* to be in retaliation. LOL

  238. jpfan: I just checked and it turns out My Favorite Condom is one of the standard questions they ask of all the Idols in the top 24/36 Q & A. You should read Sarver’s response. It’s a real shocker.

    Ok, I’ve had a long frustrating day and need to laugh, so I’ll bite.

    What did Sarver say??!!!

  239. Is Allison 18 yet? Just wondered, because some states have very restrictive child labor laws…and many states require all non-graduates under 18 to travel with a certified tutor and have 3 hours of class-room per day, and some states only allow people under 18 to work so many hours a week (hence 3 Billie Elliots). Maybe some of the big push for Allison is waiting and she won’t be allowed to promote, like Kris. I may be totally off-base but I seem to recall some of this stuff.

    herhttp://www.labor.state.ny.us/workerprotection/laborstandards/workprot/nyvsfed.shtme is the New york statute

  240. I just want them to start doing some advertising and stuff for Allison’s song, because I don’t see them doing that right now, and after that weird aborted sale thing, I’m worried about what they’re doing for her. I want her to do well, after all.

    I’m getting impatient but so far through her twitter, we know that she did the video last Sunday, finished recording her album this week, recorded some promo radio liners on Friday, has been rehearsing with her band, was recording the song in Spanish today and today also she had a meeting along with her band with Mike Jones, the sound engineer for the idol tour. Apparently he’ll be touring with her soon and working the sound. So, a lot of stuff is happening behind the scenes, hopefully soon it’ll all start making more sense and since tomorrow the song goes for radio adds, it might be the time to kick off the promo stuff.

    Allison turns 18 on April 27th, a long time for that. Promo can’t wait. The funny thing is that she’ll be performing in a casino on December 3rd, it’s a 21+ event. If she weren’t performing, she wouldn’t be allowed in, LOL!

  241. Tess

    October 26, 2009 at 5:50 pm
    Q3′ ¦

    Silly question’ ¦if you have multiple users on a single computer, they would all be the same address right. Or when different people log in (like at a library) are they given different addresses.

    I know nothing about computers.

    Yes, you’ve got it. For more than one person to vote on one computer you would have to delete the cookie after each vote.

    I do not know what they do for Peoples Choice Award voting, but each contest has it’s own rules for eliminating power voting. Usually they are looking for large blocks of votes from one device. But if you look at the rules for most of these big online voting competitions, the fine print says they can basic eliminate any votes they want to eliminate.

    Finally, they get so many votes for Peoples Choice that it would be really hard to skew the vote by power voting. But the voting is heavy from young girls — so if tween girls love someone or something, get out of their way.

  242. I don’t know b/c he hasn’t tweeted about that *shock*, but Sarver tweeted quite a bit today about his new fan club address:

    For those asking. My fan mail address is GrayMak Studios Michael Sarver Fan Club Division 1501 South Wheeler St. Jasper, Tx 75951.about 6 hours ago from web

    If you need more tweets about this, go to michaesarver1 or ask me. :)

  243. jpfan: I just checked and it turns out My Favorite Condom is one of the standard questions they ask of all the Idols in the top 24/36 Q & A. You should read Sarver’s response. It’s a real shocker.

    Ok, I’ve had a long frustrating day and need to laugh, so I’ll bite.

    What did Sarver say??!!!

    HSM – I think that was sarcasm.

  244. Having seen Kris with a really short buzz cut to where he was almost bald, I’m going to say that he’s not one of those guys that I think look good bald. So I’m okay with the bald spot in back, and sadly, other spots on the side as well.

    Kris’ face is too long and his jaw is much too prominent to pull off the bald look. He almost has a monkey look sometimes. It’s interesting that the official pictures all seem to be with him looking to the side.

  245. Ok, I’ve had a long frustrating day and need to laugh, so I’ll bite.

    What did Sarver say??!!!

    Godly, but not Holy.

  246. In the other thread Mysterioso was calling people bitches ‘“ and cheerio pissing gets deleted ‘“ I’m so confused’ ¦

    Erm. Go back to that thread and find the post where Mysterioso called anyone a bitch. You won’t find it, because it’s GONE.

    Yes, the cheerio pissing was deleted because it was defensive.

    Any snarking on certain Idols gets met by almost instantaneous defensiveness. That’s what I try to avoid. I wish folks could relax and just roll with it.

    And I can’t tell you how many Kris fans have ended up in moderation do to a certain Adam fan with a predilection for snark.

  247. I think Alli has taken her diploma already, no? She said she was working hard on finishing it.

  248. Q3, Are all cookies reading the IP address and matching it up against how many times that time period that IP address has been used?

    And how about large families? Multiple users in a one computer household? What would be a fair limit per IP address? Most cookies seem to be on or off. Maybe for some contests they would do more. But, strictly for research purposes, of course, I haven’t had any trouble de-cookieing in the past. Maybe there was a 5 hit limit or something. I only tried a couple times, couple TV things. Maybe they allow for multiple users per household and I just never tripped the limit. (And, really, I’ve never cared enough about any contests to trick the system. Plus, those darn ethics, and who needs the karma. I was just curious if it could be done.)

  249. Tess, the IPs of computers at the library each have their own address as subnets and are under the main IP of the library itself. That’s why each ip is like a ss# and can be pinpoint down to your house door. The voting may have a workaround or a hack. Nothing is possible.

  250. KrisAllen4real

    #Ok just walked into a food court a d they were handing out samples……heaven. Now on to chick fil a!!33 minutes ago from Echofon

    Does Kris love anything more than Chick-Fil-A? He needs them to sponsor his upcoming tour…or at least act as the official caterer

    (and how do he and Scott stay so skinny when they always seem to be eating fattening food?)

  251. This is where I get confused. Does this mean allowed to snark at others’ favs (but isn’t that baiting?) or allowed to snark about one’s own favorite only?

    People are allowed to snark on other Idols, their own Idols, whatever. I can see where my comments to Studio57 might seem confusing. You’ll notice I didn’t delete her comment. But I was feeling a little frustrated, that, when Kristen snarked on Adam, there was an immediate defensive reaction from a couple of posters.

    Maybe I read Studio57’s post wrong, but her post felt retaliatory rather than just simple snark. And that’s how fan wars begin.

  252. Ok, I’ve had a long frustrating day and need to laugh, so I’ll bite.

    What did Sarver say??!!!

    Godly, but not Holy.

    Better holy than holey.

  253. suebrody I listened to ALISAN PORTER’s new CD and I liked 6AM and The Hardway. But its hard to tell from the snippets.

  254. spinastory, I like for us and the end song.

    Still, I can somehow see why she is not more known. She is not very top40ish, more AC, and even for that format I think she lacks edge in her musical arrangements (love her vocals though :grin: ).

  255. If Kris doesn’t have an endoresement deal with Chick-Fil-A yet, his people need to get on that. He’s Tweeted about them…again, and of course he’s mentioned them several times in interviews.

    I think Chick-Fil-A is to Kris as chocolate cake is to Scott.

    ETA: just saw your comment girlygirl. Great minds and all. ;)

  256. But I was feeling a little frustrated

    MJ I here ya.. :-) Its a hard line to draw negitivity always generates more negitivity.. :-( Its a Gray Gray World!! And it gets grayer without some new Adam news!

  257. See what I learn by reading a blog…

    Yup…Allison is really restricted in most states on her hours of work…and in the entertainment industry it is heavily enforced. That is why all of the Glee Cast members are so old and why many family shows have 18 year olds playing 15 year olds.

    As of last May, Allison still had a full year of school. Unless she is working round the clock she hasn’t graduated yet so she is still considered a minor. While school is in session she is still restricted, whether she is tutored or not. Her weekends are pretty free…but a lot of promo for her album would mean “working on a weekday” and she can’t work more than a certain number of hours….so she can’t be doing more than 1 radio gig a day, I would gather.

    This probably means everything for her is more spaced out. The Christmas gig thingys would have to be oriented for weekend nights, and her recording sessions would have to be much shorter and spaced out.

    No wonder Archie was working his tail off last summer. As long as he did everything before Sept. 1, he was golden. After that he was restricted and could only do the tour. That is probably why you didn’t see Allison doing much other than the tour the weeks of September.

    I would think with all these complications that AI would just say you have to be 18 by the end of AIs TV season or you can’t audition. Much simpler.

  258. Jin C. replied to Kris’ tweet (well, duh)

    jambajim

    @KrisAllen4Real Are you stoned?36 minutes ago from web in reply to KrisAllen4Real

  259. Here’s Michael Slezak’s (unsurprisingly) positive remarks on Kris’ new songs/performances from yesterday

    http://popwatch.ew.com/2009/10/26/kris-allen-new-songs-dolphins/

    And in other news, Lyndsey Parker gives Adam’s new album an A++.

    Now…if Slezak gives Danny’s album over-the-top praise, 2012 comes true.

    ETA: Thanks re: Alisan’s album. I wil go check it out but will probably buy it anyway. I am happy to support her and Ferras. Oh, and Aimee. ;)

    P.S.

    ali22san What’s everyones fav song!?

    I think she means of HER songs, but I am not sure. ;)

  260. Regarding going for radio adds before releasing a song for sale, it is used to build demand for a song prior to the on sale date but also is a strategy used to get a high rank on Billboard charts. For a new artist, it take a while to build up radio airplay. And Billboard

    Billboard is based on sales plus weekly radio airplay on BDS (Broadcast Data Systems) stations weighted by Arbitron ratings (audience size, time-of-day, etc.).

  261. Tess I was looking for snark in your long paragraphs, you let me down. =p

  262. And in other news, Lyndsey Parker gives Adam’s new album an A++.

    Did I miss something?

  263. Sue, tell her “the end song” and “for us” from me! Wish she would have kept guitars on the end song though… the piano take away the edge.

  264. Is there a way to pre listen to any of the tracks on her cd? Myspace or something? Anyone has the link to buy the cd?
    Here is the link:
    http://www.Cdbaby.com/cd/alisanporter

    If you go to the above link, after all the tracks are listed there is a button to click to preview all songs.

    I’d love to hear Allison singing some of Alisan’s songs. I think Allison’s voice would sound great on them.

    BTW, I made one modification to the what I quoted, by adding in the www, since that’s necessary to get to the site.

  265. As of last May, Allison still had a full year of school. Unless she is working round the clock she hasn’t graduated yet so she is still considered a minor.

    She hasn’t. A friend of hers has said that she’s still doing school work and is going on her senior year, doing independent study and supervised by a tutor I believe. I think that’s why she was doing school work during the tour as well even if it wasn’t required, she was trying to get ahead but it’s too much. How do you explain her trip to Sweden though? She spent an entire week there, I doubt she took a tutor with her, heh.

    Allison was really, really young when she auditioned for the show. The auditions were in May and she had barely turned 16 by the end of April. If Jive didn’t think it was worth it to deal with all these laws and restrictions they wouldn’t have signed her. So, I’m hoping this is just something us fans have to get used to. She’ll be 18 soon…ish though.

  266. @TeresaSluder yayyy! What’s your fav song!!2 minutes ago from UberTwitter in reply to TeresaSluder

    Thank you everyone so much for helping me get my music out there. Love to you all. AP15 minutes ago from UberTwitter

    Yeah, she means one of the songs on HER album. :)

  267. And in other news, Lyndsey Parker gives Adam’s new album an A++.

    Did I miss something?

    Kidding. :) (B/c of Slezak’s posts…NVM, I am stoopid sometimes.)

    Sue, tell her ‘the end song’  and ‘for us’  from me! Wish she would have kept guitars on the end song though’ ¦ the piano take away the edge.

    saga, Will do. She wil be so happy!!!

  268. It sounds like the songwriters still don’t know if their songs made it to Adam’s album:
    “AimeeMayo @OhFerras Do you know anything about list. I swear I am having chest pains.”

    Poor Aimee.

  269. I am sitting here thinking about how much time and energy people spend casting votes for these contests that are eliminated on the first vote validation process. My recommendation, don’t bother power voting for People Choice Awards.

    I am certain that there are some really smart, passionate fans out there who can figure out how to game the system. But your average Idol fan isn’t going to be able to do it.

    Fan groups organizing to game online voting is nothing new. Nor is it rare.

  270. How old was Jordin when she won?

    17, but turning 18 on December 22 that same year.

  271. Jordin was 17 but she was homeschooled and got her GED (whatever the thingy is called…didn’t have it when I was in school during the horse and buggy days) shortly after the tour ended, I believe.

    As far as Allison going to Sweden…they don’t have child labor laws, I don’t think. So as long as she was turning in her paper work to the school board on time it would just show her being “on vacation”.

    2 issues…her “contract” with the education system that lets her out of formal classes…and the child labor laws in the state in which she is working.

  272. Over on ontd_ai, someone said they heard a DJ on Q102 in Cincinnati say that Adam’s single will be out NEXT Tuesday (and he said it is the Pink song)

    This is the same station that did all the “Bosom Ball” stuff with Kris…

  273. More from Jim C.

    jambajim

    #So @adamlambert & @thedavidcook will be at the THIS IS IT premiere? Good think MTV is airing a live red carpet special tomorrow night @8:30!16 minutes ago from web

  274. For what it’s worth:

    argeneau: So, DJ @ Q102 in Cincinnati says that @adamlambert debut single is the one written by Pink & will be released next Tuesday…DNW Pink track.
    1 minute ago from

  275. And entertainment child labor laws and child compensation is a BIG BIG deal in California after Paul Peterson (The Donna Reed Show) became an advocate for children’s rights. Anyone in the biz doing anything shady with kids as far as work issues and compensation may as well kiss their careers goodbye. These advocacy groups have peeps everywhere and they monitor everything.

  276. So its the Pink Song….no one has ever heard it…and I don’t think it will sound like Pink singing it…so if it’s true…bring it on!

    Just let anyone dare declare it a cover…I’ve searched the internet from stem to stern and can’t find a whisper of Pink’s tract that she laid down anywhere. So I’d call her tract a demo and away we go.

  277. It sounds like the songwriters still don’t know if their songs made it to Adam’s album:
    ‘AimeeMayo @OhFerras Do you know anything about list. I swear I am having chest pains.’ 

    Poor Aimee.

    SIGH.

    I would not be remotely surprised if Pink’s song is the first released:

    It was featured in EW article;
    It’s, you know, PINK;
    Co-written by Pink and Max Martin;

    Adam’s take on it:

    “It works on a relationship level, but I also relate it to the sense of talking to the public. Like, ‘This whole thing’s a litte freaked out, but please have faith in me, because I won’t disappoint you.’

    AWWWW…and it fits in with album name, FYE.

  278. Ok course I would love it to be the “PINK” track I love everything she does.. but we will see.

  279. Over on ontd_ai, someone said they heard a DJ on Q102 in Cincinnati say that Adam’s single will be out NEXT Tuesday (and he said it is the Pink song)

    This is the same station that did all the ‘Bosom Ball’  stuff with Kris’ ¦

    I’m expecting a more dance/pop song.

  280. Need a new thread to discuss what song of Adam’s will probably be released and why. ;)

    ETA: Aw, love you, Kelly. Why didn’t I go to her concert (which got an excellent review, BTW) in Boston? :(

  281. BeckyMD

    Where are you seeing the photos from Kris’ single/album cover shoot? I went on the official site but can’t find them

  282. I thought the Pink song was a slow song, not a dancey pop number? It sounds beautiful, but not like a song to perform with dancers and flaming headdresses.

  283. I found it…it’s a video of Kris’ photo shoot. Cool! He seemed pretty comfortable and it looks like they probably came up with a bunch of great photos — hopefully they will be in the album artwork

    Thanks BeckyMD

  284. Adam’s take on it:

    ‘It works on a relationship level, but I also relate it to the sense of talking to the public. Like, ‘This whole thing’s a litte freaked out, but please have faith in me, because I won’t disappoint you.’

    Oh, man – if this doesn’t scream what I would expect to come out of Adam’s first single, I don’t know what does :-)

    And I agree – a Pink/Max Martin track could be incredibly radio friendly (dance/pop, I’m guessing) – and throw Adam’s vocals on top of it and you’ve got something fantastic!

  285. From Ferras to Aimee:

    @AimeeMayo I don’t ….. i think everyone is ill over this .. lol2 minutes ago from web in reply to AimeeMayo

    Geez, Adam/RCA, stop the waiting. Alisan, Ferras, and Aimee are having nervous breakdowns!!!

  286. Ok, I am confused. I was under the impression that it was Adam’s music video that was going to be shown before TII. Now, people are saying that it is just the song that will be played, along with a movie trailer? That is a pretty big difference in terms of the level of actual “Adam promotion.”

  287. FifthHouseSun

    Q3, Are all cookies reading the IP address and matching it up against how many times that time period that IP address has been used?

    When you vote they record your IP address on the vote record and drop a cookie on your computer. You can remove the cookie to revote but it will have the same IP address as the first vote. If you do this a lot, the votes are usually discarded.

  288. im sure it will be a great song, but it sounds like the pink song is a brooding relationship song, not a dance track. since he already has a brooding love song out, i would guess that this song is not it. plus i dont think a break up or “stick with me through this craziness” song would make for a crazy fun stage performance at the AMAs.

    mostly im just hoping this is false because i want it to be THIS week. sigh.

  289. you are welcome, girlygirl.

    I like that black military-feel jacket.

  290. anyone know what time the LA premier of TII is? i will have to leave for my showing around 10pm but i want to see adam on the red carpet!

  291. Just let anyone dare declare it a cover’ ¦I’ve searched the internet from stem to stern and can’t find a whisper of Pink’s tract that she laid down anywhere. So I’d call her tract a demo and away we go.

    She did lay it down for the album, but it got cut. So, it’s more than just a demo. But, it appears that it was never released as a C-side in somewhere like Uzbekistan, so it’s not a scandalous cover either.

  292. I do not know what they do for Peoples Choice Award voting, but each contest has it’s own rules for eliminating power voting. Usually they are looking for large blocks of votes from one device. But if you look at the rules for most of these big online voting competitions, the fine print says they can basic eliminate any votes they want to eliminate.

    Right, you are, Q3. People’s Choice has the basic “we can decide whatever we want” disclaimer, written in nice legalese. May they keep it airtight.

    The rules are you can vote once a day. The voting period, after nominees announced, is long period for winner – 11/10 until December 7. That’s a lot of days. And, in Firefox, it’s one easy click, and their cookie gone. (And I won’t vote tomorrow, Google Alert spider)

    So, the law of large numbers and advancing technology might eventually destroy online voting. Unless some cookie-fying catches up. Except, how can they say what’s the legal limit from library computers? And Starbuck’s WiFi? And cities with free wifi everywhere? And people with multiple devices?

    Ontd_ai had 10,000 (locked) comments last night about Kris’s new songs. Not saying anyone of them would do a thing, ever, in any way, at all. It just shows techno enthusiasm. And how global large numbers could work. Kids- of any age- going from home, to student lounge, to library, to work, and voting 4,5,6, times a day at each location, varying amounts to stay viable, on laptop and iPhone. 2000, 5k, 10K people, ten-15 votes a day, it’s a skew. Not every star has a wired fanbase.

    Fan groups organizing to game online voting is nothing new. Nor is it rare.

    Technology is a triple edged sword.

  293. She did lay it down for the album, but it got cut. So, it’s more than just a demo.

    iirc, she just listed it as future track in future album. I didn’t recall she recorded it herself.

  294. BeckyMD

    Yeah I like the jacket…and the purple shirt.

    Is he wearing eyeliner? Looks like he might be…

    But then again, I pretty much like how Kris looks no matter what he’s wearing. LOL

  295. She did lay it down for the album, but it got cut. So, it’s more than just a demo. But, it appears that it was never released as a C-side in somewhere like Uzbekistan, so it’s not a scandalous cover either.

    MWAHAHAHA.

    I voted for People’s Choice. But there are like 20 categories (seriously) and I have only heard about the ppl in 5 of the categories, so I am trying to vote again w/out having to go through this.

    I agree, I do not think Adam or Kris will win, but cool that they got on the ballot at all. GaGa is gonna clean up. Not literally. She likes to spill things (like blood at the VMAs, for example).

  296. Awesome video of Kris’ album shoot. I love the part around 1:35, when he says “gorgeous, you look gorgeous baby.”..lol

  297. anyone know what time the LA premier of TII is? i will have to leave for my showing around 10pm but i want to see adam on the red carpet!

    ETA: i wasnt sure if jim’s 8:30 MTV coverage was LA time or NY time.

  298. Anyone know what time the LA premier of TII is? i will have to leave for my showing around 10pm but i want to see adam on the red carpet!

    5:30PM PT/8:30PM ET On MTV and VH! —

  299. “The Pink song is Adam’s single” rumor started on AO.com almost a week ago. The “leak” that the fan saw does not look real.

    I think that it is more likely to be the Lady GaGa track. But we will find out soon.

    Fan groups organizing to game online voting is nothing new. Nor is it rare.

    ITA But it is not easy to do it so the votes count.

  300. Oh, it will be on MTV and VH-1!!!

    *flailing*

    I get to go on Saturday, but my friend is going on Wednesday, and I have asked for details on…the movie…yep, the movie….

  301. Tess you came through. Watch Pink and Adam play in the same bill like Kriss did with the Script.

  302. I think that it is more likely to be the Lady GaGa track. But we will find out soon.

    Totally agree on the Lady Gaga song. I think that last minute addition may be what’s been holding the whole thing up.

  303. I think that it is more likely to be the Lady GaGa track. But we will find out soon.

    Totally agree on the Lady Gaga song. I think that last minute addition may be what’s been holding the whole thing up.

    I was thinking this too.

  304. She did lay it down for the album, but it got cut. So, it’s more than just a demo.

    iirc, she just listed it as future track in future album. I didn’t recall she recorded it herself.

    That’s what I recalled as well, but I’m too lazy today to look it up to see if we recalled correctly, or not.

    Yeah I like the jacket’ ¦and the purple shirt.

    Is he wearing eyeliner? Looks like he might be’ ¦

    I liked the jacket, not feeling that shade of purple on him. Doesn’t quite go with his colouring, in my opinion. And yeah, I thought he has some eyeliner at parts of it as well. I’m sure all the screenshots on ontd_ai will be able to prove it one way or the other, and I’m sure there are tons of screenshots (and gifs. and macros) to be had.

  305. Thank you so much Becky for the link to Kris’s photo shoot video!! These are where some of his recent great photos of Kris came from- especially the “bathroom mirror” shot!!! They chose some great locations- love the “old style” look!!

  306. The thing that kinda drives me a little crazy about the photos used from Kris’s shoot is that none of them appear to be head on shots. The shots that have been used to date are all profile pictures. I’m finding this a bit strange for some reason.

  307. Oh wow! As people are already mentioning – The Kris Allen photoshoot video set to LLWD on youtube and krisallenofficial. Wow.

  308. Milwaukee Bucks announcing Danny will be appearing at their home opener

    Bucks: http://twitpic.com/n2nrb ‘“ American Idol Sensation Danny Gokey to Sing National Anthem and Perform at Halftime at the Bucks Home Opener!
    27 minutes ago from TwitPic

  309. Also appears Danny is headed to LA for an event tomorrow possibly opening a youth center associated to his charitable foundation. (DC = Dream Center in LA, where Slash apparently was visiting this weekend working with some kids)

    MatthewBarnett: Tomorrow night a Press Party at the DC. Media will be there to dedicate the new Sophias Heart youth center. Danny Gokey joining us. Awesome!
    about 4 hours ago from Twitterrific

  310. But the way they released LLWD is very strange to me. And I just don’t understand the Kris strategy. For example, why did they had Kris debut his new songs at the Miami Dolphins event rather than an event in a major media center.

    I think except for making LLWD go itune on Friday, Jive is doing a good job promoting LLWD and Kris. It’s a radio-spin driven grass-root focus strategy. Debuting in Z100, radio-friendly song choice, radio station sponsored, highschool and football tailgate concerts, and performing with his band, are all targeting to grow Kris’ fanbase from the root (for the lack of better work that I know). It fits his perceived image and personality. It’s also a preparation for his tour in Feb. I guess his concert will be hold in venues of around 2000 – 5000 audience.

  311. Good for Danny…hope he enjoys himself. It’s good to see that the donations for Sophias Heart are being used productively. When’s the BB game…and with total snark: is he going to sing the National Anthem with his new found twang?

  312. I guess his concert will be hold in venues of around 2000 ‘“ 5000 audience.

    Frig…those are Huge venues…I think for anyone other than a “proven” tourer that is way too big. A 1000 to 2000 would be an awesome size, that’s a normal theater. 5000 is just too big and I don’t think he could fill it or feel comfortable in it. Weird choice.

  313. Brooke is going to be on Chelsea lately…..kinda funny:)

    From Brooke’s Twitter:

    realbrookewhite
    .RT @love_erinn @realbrookewhite brooke, are you really gonna be on chelesa lately tonight? A. yep, I really am:)

  314. Frig’ ¦those are Huge venues’ ¦I think for anyone other than a ‘proven’  tourer that is way too big. A 1000 to 2000 would be an awesome size, that’s a normal theater. 5000 is just too big and I don’t think he could fill it or feel comfortable in it. Weird choice.

    I think Cook’s concerts were around this size….Is 5000 big? I get the number by taking the size of AI tour arena and cuting it in half.

  315. This youtube profile has three great videos of Ruben Studdard singing at the David Foster tour stop last night in Rosemont, IL. He sang Michael Buble’s “Home”, Boys II Men’s “I swear” and a song I don’t know who its by called “mornin’.”

    http://www.youtube.com/user/TheJannie5

    HIGHLY recommended. David Foster definitely knows what style of music people should sing.

  316. Kris looks positively drop dead gorgeous in that photoshoot video … which looks excellent set, as it is, to his first single LLWD. Great looking guy (from any angle) and an amazing song. Nit pickers be gone.

  317. when I went to see DC in Seattle, it was at a music club, I am guessing 500 people but that could be too high

  318. I doubt Danny will show up at the Bucks game with even a hint of twang, especially in front of his hometown Milwaukee crowd, lol. Nor wearing chaps, a cowboy hat, or other accoutrements of old-school country.

  319. mj
    October 26, 2009 at 6:14 pm
    People are allowed to snark on other Idols, their own Idols, whatever. I can see where my comments to Studio57 might seem confusing. You’ll notice I didn’t delete her comment. But I was feeling a little frustrated

    Thanks, MJ. I appreciate the clarification!

    Rub
    October 26, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    Tess you came through. Watch Pink and Adam play in the same bill like Kriss did with the Script.

    Hmm, that would be cool. I don’t mind at all if Adam releases a Pink song, but I am still leaning toward the Lady GaGa song especially after the interview she did earlier today. Don’t have the link handy, but I’m sure someone does.

    My question is, why would a DJ in Cincinnati get the scoop on the Pink song before anyone else?

  320. Studio57
    October 26, 2009 at 1:59 pm
    And it looks far too much like the ‘do Liza has been rocking for the last 40 years.

    Eh, things could be worse. He could be sporting a pretty bad combover or a big ass bald spot in the back of his head.

    LOL :), while wearing an apron !

  321. Oh BeckyMD…

    Cook played in venues as small as 500 to a 1000 when he was doing College campuses SRO, Archie too. Nice theaters are a 1000 to 1500. 5000 is basically a basketball arena cut in half…too big for Kris’ voice at this stage.

    State Fairs are about 5000….I think Cookie moved into 2000 seat casino theaters after a bit. I’m not an expert, check with someone who follows DC. They have someone on one of the fan sites who is a number nerd and tracks everything. Maybe they can find it for you.

  322. when I went to see DC in Seattle, it was at a music club, I am guessing 500 people but that could be too high

    Really? I think the price of concert ticket is usually $20-$30. How much a singer/band can make by performing to such a small amount of people? Aren’t they saying touring is where artists make their money?

  323. Kris said himself that they hadn’t decided what sort of tour it would be, so I think conjecture is just that at this point.

  324. Kris looks positively drop dead gorgeous in that photoshoot video ‘ ¦ which looks excellent set, as it is, to his first single LLWD. Great looking guy (from any angle) and an amazing song. Nit pickers be gone.

    That was a great photo shoot for Kris. He was definitely maximising on cute. The gourgeous line was so cute. Great add to have LLWD playing as background music.

  325. Per ladymadonna from DCO, the average venue size for Cook during his current tour (this is of the known capacities in his 130+ date tour) is 2,696. So this is really an average of the tiny clubs and college venues, to the midsize HOBs and Fillmores to the even larger casinos to the really large state fairs. This does not include the venue in Manila.

    Also, BeckyMD, the prices vary — from very cheap for the college venues (free in a few cases becauses Studen Activity Fees paid for his gig) to the typical $25-$35 (mine was $35 + Ticketbastard fees), to the more expensive $45+ at some of the casinos. Some state fairs were also really cheap but I don’t know how artists get paid on those types of gigs, where the admission to the fair is sometimes also the same as the ticket to the concert. Then there are the really expensive ones — Cook’s New Year’s Eve gig has tickets that top out at $125/ticket (but that may be the most expensive prices yet).

    ETA: And then there’s the money Cook doesn’t have to share with the venue: Merchandise.

  326. Remember how Hermioine just happened to have a little bottle she handed Harry to catch Snape’s thoughts just before (spoiler) ….

    anyway, I hope peeps in small venues are okay with “catching” Danny’s SWEAT ‘cuz after sitting 4 rows from him at the tour – they are going to get SOAKED.

    Just sayin.

    yuk

  327. This youtube profile has three great videos of Ruben Studdard singing at the David Foster tour stop last night in Rosemont, IL. He sang Michael Buble’s ‘Home’ , Boys II Men’s ‘I swear’  and a song I don’t know who its by called ‘mornin’.’ 

    http://www.youtube.com/user/TheJannie5

    HIGHLY recommended. David Foster definitely knows what style of music people should sing.

    I watched these earlier….I loved Mornin’ ….it’s an Al Jarreau song, and Ruben does a wonderful job with it., I loved Home so much I put it on my facebook, lol. I Swear isn’t Boys II Men though, I think two different artists did it in the same year, a country act and a pop/rnb trio All for One or something like that. I love Ruben doing the bluesy, jazzy stuff, he sound reallllly good! I was sorta leary of him doing this David Foster thing myself, but he does sound really great, so who knows.

  328. Remember how Hermioine just happened to have a little bottle she handed Harry to catch Snape’s thoughts just before (spoiler) ‘ ¦.

    She’s a witch. She conjured the bottle (I just re-read that chapter with my son).

  329. I Swear isn’t Boys II Men though, I think two different artists did it in the same year, a country act and a pop/rnb trio All for One or something like that.

    LOL – All4One. I remember those guys. I recall fangirling over them in 1994 as they sang that song live in Tampa. Shut up. I was young.

  330. Brooke is going to be on Chelsea lately’ ¦..kinda funny:)

    From Brooke’s Twitter:

    realbrookewhite
    .RT @love_erinn @realbrookewhite brooke, are you really gonna be on chelesa lately tonight? A. yep, I really am:)

    Holy crap. Talk about a kitten playing with a tigress. Well, if Brooke could handle Simon, she can handle Chelsea. Besides, Chelsea will think she’s sweet and treat her very nice, I’m sure.

  331. Michael Johns is also part of the David Foster tour and his solos are on youtube.

    And, speaking of college and state fair venues, Anoop’s state fair songs are up on youtube and he just tweeted he’ll be playing at Carolina Homecoming, 11/8 7pm Memorial Hall.

  332. “She’s a witch. She conjured the bottle (I just re-read that chapter with my son).”

    But what are those Gokey fans supposed to do? Sweateka leviosa?

  333. Oop, forgot to mention Anoop’s cover of Battlefield has 8000 views in only 3 days.

  334. Holy crap. Talk about a kitten playing with a tigress. Well, if Brooke could handle Simon, she can handle Chelsea. Besides, Chelsea will think she’s sweet and treat her very nice, I’m sure.

    Chelsea is hilarious. I love that show. I also adore Brooke, so I plan to watch. Although Chelsea’s humor is quite biting, you can often see her compassion peeking through. And, she’s only ever mean to your face if you’re really, really stupid. So, I think Brooke should handle her just fine.

  335. when I went to see DC in Seattle, it was at a music club, I am guessing 500 people but that could be too high

    The music Club in Seattle holds 1700 people from their website:

    “Showbox SoDo ……… Located just south of the downtown business district, and in very close proximity to Safeco Field and Qwest Field, the 1700-capacity showroom and lounge features a beautiful exposed brick and wood-beam architecture………”

    The “club” was not a sell out but close the night David Cook played the venue.

    ETA: I was there saw the long line down the block, was squashed in the crowd in front of the stage. The place was packed.

  336. more FYE angst?

    elythecreep: Wow, this is like the best movie ever….the suspense is just awesome…we are hours away people….heads or tails??

    ali22san: “Hrs away”, @elythecreep.

  337. I think baiting is allowed, because it’s called free expression, but fighting back is not allowed, that’s called hampering free expression and being childish’ ¦

    So I’ve been told

  338. watched these earlier’ ¦.I loved Mornin’ ‘ ¦.it’s an Al Jarreau song, and Ruben does a wonderful job with it

    I don’t see the “Mornin” video- is it on there? HUGE Al Jarreau fan. Would love to see Ruben singing that.

  339. more FYE angst?

    elythecreep: Wow, this is like the best movie ever’ ¦.the suspense is just awesome’ ¦we are hours away people’ ¦.heads or tails??

    ali22san: ‘Hrs away‘ , @elythecreep.

    Or a song title? Was Alisan replying to ely’s tweet?

  340. more FYE angst?

    elythecreep: Wow, this is like the best movie ever’ ¦.the suspense is just awesome’ ¦we are hours away people’ ¦.heads or tails??

    ali22san: ‘Hrs away’ , @elythecreep.

    Between her kitchen almost exploding, her album (download, SO GOOD), and FYE, Alisan has been on Twitter ALL DAY LONG. (Unlike me,. b/c I am never there, heh.) Today is new music Monday on Twitter, which works out really well for Alisan. Lots of well-deserved press.

    AINow says they have a BIG announcement very soon. Oh, dear God, please be about Adam’single…

  341. jpfan: I just checked and it turns out My Favorite Condom is one of the standard questions they ask of all the Idols in the top 24/36 Q & A. You should read Sarver’s response. It’s a real shocker.

    HoppersSkippersMiners: Ok, I’ve had a long frustrating day and need to laugh, so I’ll bite. What did Sarver say??!!!

    Squirrely: HSM ‘“ I think that was sarcasm.

    Sassycatz: Godly, but not Holy.

    Truthiness: Better holy than holey.

    See?!! I KNEW it was sarcasm – I just needed a few punchlines to go with it, and y’all delievered so well!!!
    [laugh] Love you guys. I feel better now! :grin: :twisted: :grin:

  342. AINow says they have a BIG announcement very soon. Oh, dear God, please be about Adam’single’ ¦

    praying with every finger/toe crossed.

  343. David Cook and his brother andrew are in a twitter war right now. It is cracking me up.

  344. dannygokey: landed in LA. Have a big day & collaboration to announce w/ 1 of the greatest places on earth. Tell u more 2morrow

  345. David Cook and his brother andrew are in a twitter war right now. It is cracking me up.

    Second time today, too. Hilarious ;)

  346. dannygokey: landed in LA. Have a big day & collaboration to announce w/ 1 of the greatest places on earth. Tell u more 2morrow

    why?

  347. David Cook and his brother andrew are in a twitter war right now. It is cracking me up.

    Me too. Hee

  348. Do you think they will make the single annoucement early tomorrow so Adam can talk about it on the red carpet? That would make sense to me.

  349. HSM, I am stupid, in that I thought there really was a condom question for the Top 36 (OMG, DUMB), so I posted one of Sarver’s emo tweets today (hey, please write him: he has five different ways to stay connected!).

    :doh::

    Perhaps it is because I am sort of obsessed with Adam’s single and appearance tomorrow on the Red Carpet…yep, that’s it…

  350. AINow NEW!!! Adam Lambert’s Single, “What Do You Want From Me,” To Radio Premiere By Next Monday http://retwt.me/1wDtN (@adamlambert #idol)less than 10 seconds ago from yoono

    *flailing*

  351. Do you think they will make the single annoucement early tomorrow so Adam can talk about it on the red carpet? That would make sense to me.

    it’s an event for MJ memorial and appreciation so I think it may not be proper for Adam to turn the spotlight to himself.

  352. AINow NEW!!! Adam Lambert’s Single, “What Do You Want From Me,” To Radio Premiere By Next Monday http://retwt.me/1wDtN (@adamlambert #idol)
    half a minute ago from yoono

  353. AINow NEW!!! Adam Lambert’s Single, ‘What Do You Want From Me,’  To Radio Premiere By Next Monday http://retwt.me/1wDtN (@adamlambert #idol)less than 10 seconds ago from yoono

    *flailing*

    co-flailing (after accepting the song as first single….)

  354. dannygokey: landed in LA. Have a big day & collaboration to announce w/ 1 of the greatest places on earth. Tell u more 2morrow

    Danny is going to Disneyland? I thought that was Kris’s gig?

  355. AINow NEW!!! Adam Lambert’s Single, ‘What Do You Want From Me,’  To Radio Premiere By Next Monday http://retwt.me/1wDtN (@adamlambert #idol)
    half a minute ago from yoono

    They must have a good line on info the get it posted so quickly.

  356. Adam could sing the damn phonebook, Randy Jackson, at this point, and I would be doing cartwheels.

    WHERE IS MJ? NEW THREAD NEEDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    (Not sure how dancers fit in here, however. ;))

  357. From the AINow announcement:

    However, Brian Douglas of Q102 in Cincinnati has confirmed to AI Now that per Jive/19R , Adam’s first single will be called “What Do You Want From Me.”

    What on Earth does Jive have to do with Adam’s single? Confuzlement.

  358. AINow NEW!!! Adam Lambert’s Single

    Ya know, it is exciting and I’m good with whatever, but that still is only based on the Ohio radio guy who cites confirmation from JIVE?! I think I’ll need more, unless someone tells me AI Now is mega-reliable. Since they haven’t confirmed with 19R though, I’m still skeptical.

    But good with it either way…

  359. “From the AINow announcement:

    However, Brian Douglas of Q102 in Cincinnati has confirmed to AI Now that per Jive/19R , Adam’s first single will be called ‘What Do You Want From Me.’ 

    What on Earth does Jive have to do with Adam’s single? Confuzlement.”

    Looks like Kris’ folks (or Kris) leaked it to Q102 during their interview,,,,

    ooooopsies!

  360. #

    dannygokey: landed in LA. Have a big day & collaboration to announce w/ 1 of the greatest places on earth. Tell u more 2morrow

    Danny is going to Disneyland? I thought that was Kris’s gig?
    #
    koshka

    See I took that to mean he’s joining a circus, clown that he is. ;-) But you’re right, that would be “greatest show on earth” so probably not. Too bad. He’d be good.

  361. Why would Jive be confirming this? I think I will wait to get excited.

  362. But what are those Gokey fans supposed to do? Sweateka leviosa?

    Oh txarchitect….my screen is dripping…the Kaluha and milk (didn’t have cream) are streaming down the face.

    Are you really an Architect…are you employed?

  363. they corrected this on the website

    “However, Brian Douglas of Q102 in Cincinnati has confirmed to AI Now that per RCA/19R , Adam’s first single will be called “What Do You Want From Me.” The song was written by Pink and Max Martin for Pink’s album. But, when the song didn’t make the cut, Pink willingly gave it to Adam.”

    http://www.ainow.org/index.php/top-stories/1230-adam-lamberts-single-qwhat-do-you-want-from-meq-to-radio-premiere-by-next-monday

  364. “But what are those Gokey fans supposed to do? Sweateka leviosa?

    Oh txarchitect’ ¦.my screen is dripping’ ¦the Kaluha and milk (didn’t have cream) are streaming down the face.

    Are you really an Architect’ ¦are you employed?”

    Landscape architect w Masters in Architecture, and HAVE YOU BEEN TALKING TO MY HUSBAND???? I’m looking, I’m looking (NOT)

  365. Are you really an Architect’ ¦are you employed?

    LOL – a couple of the ones I know still are :)

  366. Architectural….laid off since January. Firm went from 54 to 12. Nothing, nothing happening in Phoenix…I’m pretty much semi-retired but miss it….

    OK…so now we have the “pink” drama ready to unfold. Adam sure does like the ladies….he seems to have chosen a few for songwriters.

  367. I trust Adam’s team. If they think this is the RIGHT SONG, then it is the right song. I think it will be intense. I am not sure how dancing works in…When do we get leakage?!

    ETA: Architects, I work for an architectural college in Boston. The field sucks right now, believe me, I know. Hope there’s a turnaround by the spring, however.

  368. I am not sure how dancing works in’ ¦When do we get leakage?!

    Dancers can dance to anything. You might be pleasantly suprised.

    I’m confused. Why will a Pink song bring drama? I love Pink!

  369. AINow NEW!!! Adam Lambert’s Single, ‘What Do You Want From Me,’  To Radio Premiere By Next Monday http://retwt.me/1wDtN (@adamlambert #idol)less than 10 seconds ago from yoono

    ha. I like the title of this song. It is going to send a message, which I have no doubt Adam will be able to deliver. How much longer to the AMAs???? lol

  370. So exciting about Adam’s single being announced, and so smart that he can talk about it on the red carpet! As soon as I saw Jim’s tweet about the red carpet, I was hoping for this. Adam has a very smart team working for him – but then he’s also very very savvy himself! This is turning out to be a fantastic week for news!

  371. OK’ ¦so now we have the ‘pink’  drama ready to unfold. Adam sure does like the ladies’ ¦.he seems to have chosen a few for songwriters.

    I don’t get it. Why do we have a Pink drama? lol

  372. I trust Adam’s team. If they think this is the RIGHT SONG, then it is the right song. I think it will be intense. I am not sure how dancing works in’ ¦When do we get leakage?!

    I don’t care if Adam have those dancers doing a foxtrot, all I care about is the new song.

  373. I’m so confused. This means the chick on AO who had the screencap was right. But didn’t Pink fans say the tune was a slow sad song about relationship problems with her husband? DNW Adam slow-dancing on the AMA’s. I want some beats!!

  374. 1. the Kris Allen photo shoot video is kinda HOT!

    2. WOO HOO can’t wait to finally hear Adam’s single

    3. My daughter wants to be an Architect, she’s got over 10 years to go though, so hopefully things will be totally different by then!

  375. I’m confused. Why will a Pink song bring drama? I love Pink!

    I’m excited. Funhouse is the first album in quite a long time that I can honestly say every track is great! If Adam gets a song that was thought ill fitting for personal reasons (as rumor has it) I am thrilled.

  376. There is always DRAMA when a single is released. Is it the right one…is it from the right songwriter…does it fit Adam…is it poppy enough….it it too poppy. We will hear lots and lots of opinions over the next few days if not weeks…and it will be tons of fun!!!!

  377. AINow NEW!!! Adam Lambert’s Single, ‘What Do You Want From Me,’  To Radio Premiere By Next Monday http://retwt.me/1wDtN (@adamlambert #idol)less than 10 seconds ago from yoono

    *flailing*

    What? WHY. That does not sound like a happy dancey song. :(

  378. Oh Happy Day!!!…….New music from Adam, besides the TFM song/video. This all sooo exciting! I am still lovin the TFM ballad. I can’t help myself, because Adam’s voice is stellar, and he is pure entertainment to watch..

    Happy Halloween Adam, your favorite holiday!!!

  379. My daughter wants to be an Architect, she’s got over 10 years to go though, so hopefully things will be totally different by then!

    Sweet baby in a manger they better be, or else we’re all screwed!

  380. So basically AINow is depending on a DJ in Cincinnati to get information about Adam’s single? That’s a little sketchy, especially since the Cincinnati station confused Jive and RCA.

    And it’s still vague “by next Monday” means whn, exactly?

    It’s not that I doubt that the Pink song will be the single, or even that it will drop by next Monday. I just want official word from someone connected with Adam and/or RCA…not a DJ in Cincinnati

  381. What? WHY. That does not sound like a happy dancey song.

    I don’t know about dancing, but if it is from Pink… its got attitude & that is something Adam can deliver.

  382. FINALLY!!!! Okay Adam, let’s confirm it!! ….and give us little smidge of what it sounds like. How about a bubbletweet? :)

  383. Meanwhile Kris was very funny prank calling that vocal coach. Although you could hear him starting to lose it when the guy tried to compare his singing to Clay Aiken.

  384. There is always DRAMA when a single is released. Is it the right one’ ¦is it from the right songwriter’ ¦does it fit Adam’ ¦is it poppy enough’ ¦.it it too poppy. We will hear lots and lots of opinions over the next few days if not weeks’ ¦and it will be tons of fun!!!!

    Oh, I see. You meant the same old shit, different day stuff :) I expect that too. I just thought maybe there was something extra special about this song. Like maybe it was a cover of a song by an obscure band no one in America has ever heard of that was released as a “B” side in Kazakhstan.

  385. What? WHY. That does not sound like a happy dancey song.

    I don’t know about dancing, but if it is from Pink’ ¦ its got attitude & that is something Adam can deliver.

    I don’t want it if it’s like, angry attitude. I want partying attitude. Isn’t that what Adam’s album is supposed to be? Fun, light, entertainment…I don’t see this single representing it all too well. I think he can have a brooding second single but a song like, say, Strut– just going from the title– seems like a better first single. What Do You Want From Me sounds more like a Sober than a So What, but we’ll see. Maybe it won’t the first single, or maybe it’s not what I think it is. Does anyone remember the magazine description of the song?

  386. dannygokey: landed in LA. Have a big day & collaboration to announce w/ 1 of the greatest places on earth. Tell u more 2morrow

    Danny is going to Disneyland? I thought that was Kris’s gig?

    Based on other tweets today, Danny is probably talking about the LA Dream Center. (http://www.dreamcenter.org) The collaboration is probably between the Dream Center and Danny’s charitable foundation for a youth center for disadvantaged kids.

  387. This has to be soooooo hard for these songwriters!

    ClaudeKelly RT @yeyo818 Adam Lambert’s “For Your Entertainment” is going to be sick!! <==ur damn right its gonna be SICK!!!!! WEE!!!
    1 minute ago from web

    elythecreep @OhFerras yess…Red Carrot Apple2 minutes ago from UberTwitter

    ali22san "Hrs away", @elythecreep.2 minutes ago from UberTwitter

    elythecreep Wow, this is like the best movie ever….the suspense is just awesome…we are hours away people….heads or tails??3 minutes ago from UberTwitter

    OhFerras When i was just a little girl, i asked my mother what will i b.. will i b rich or will i b poor … here's what she said 2 me. Que sera sera

    It sounds like Claude is HAPPY!

  388. Although you could hear him starting to lose it when the guy tried to compare his singing to Clay Aiken.

    Yeah, who is this moron, and what the f*ck is he talking about? Kris is not even remotely Clay-like.

  389. I’m confused. Why will a Pink song bring drama? I love Pink!

    I’m excited. Funhouse is the first album in quite a long time that I can honestly say every track is great! If Adam gets a song that was thought ill fitting for personal reasons (as rumor has it) I am thrilled.

    I LOVE your attitude, and I wholeheartedly agree. Max Martin is brilliant, and it has to have an edge to it. Can’t wait to start imagining the AMA performance. That will be an exciting night!

  390. That radio interview with Kris was high-sterical. Loved it and the Clay Aiken stuff. Bwah. Totally the dry sense of humor by Kris that I love, and he was pretty quick too. That was good.

  391. AINow RT @suebrody1 @LoveLifeDC AI Now never reports something without having their butts covered. I totally trust them. @AINow – Thanks! We try!20 minutes ago from yoono

    I can tell you, AINow has yet to be wrong…they double and triple check.

    No drama, just excitement. Need Adam’s Team to confirm (hello, Adam’s Team…statement, RCA/19…lyndsey/slezak/cantiello, whose group will be at TII tomorrow night…)

    I heard it was released as a D side in the North Pole, but only went to #53 on iTunes.

  392. girlgirl that Kris prank was so darn funny. I was listening to it and couldn’t quite laughing it was so funny. I just don’t understand why people think his so boring and bland. That prank was so full of win. Kris sounding like Clay, and so funny when he said yeah that kris guy sucks.And I love when the guy try to back track after he found out it was Kris. And Kris saying don’t lyi to me now.

  393. AINow NEW!!! Adam Lambert’s Single, ‘What Do You Want From Me,’  To Radio Premiere By Next Monday http://retwt.me/1wDtN (@adamlambert #idol)less than 10 seconds ago from yoono

    What the actual frack? I’m not feeling this, yo.

    But typical of 19 to choose a cover to release as the first single. I would rather have Strut, or something like that, instead.

  394. What the actual frack? I’m not feeling this, yo.

    But typical of 19 to choose a cover to release as the first single. I would rather have Strut, or something like that, instead.

    Ikr. Me neither.

    It’s not a cover though, because Pink never released it. So thank god we avoided THAT drama, from the actual news media at least, because I’m sure we’ll have plenty of discussions about it on this blog.

    But yeah, seriously. Seems like a really last minute decision, and they chose it just because it’s a Pink song, therefore = marketability. Or something. Except it was a rejected song, and even though she could’ve left it out because it didn’t fit the mood of the album, it does make me automatically think that it’s not the best song, unfortunately. And also, not partay seeming.

  395. Ontd_ai had 10,000 (locked) comments last night about Kris’s new songs. Not saying anyone of them would do a thing, ever, in any way, at all. It just shows techno enthusiasm. And how global large numbers could work. Kids- of any age- going from home, to student lounge, to library, to work, and voting 4,5,6, times a day at each location, varying amounts to stay viable, on laptop and iPhone. 2000, 5k, 10K people, ten-15 votes a day, it’s a skew. Not every star has a wired fanbase.

    I could be wrong but I thought that Ontd_ai was a Kradam fanbase not just an Adam or Kris fanbase.

  396. Oh, I see. You meant the same old shit, different day stuff I expect that too. I just thought maybe there was something extra special about this song. Like maybe it was a cover of a song by an obscure band no one in America has ever heard of that was released as a ‘B’  side in Kazakhstan.

    Having spent 3 months in Kazakhstan and few years ago, I can personally confirm that they are indeed up on the latest music. The only english speaking channel was MTV & a certain Kelly C. song will forever be the theme song for that trip.

  397. So Kris performed 3 songs during his stop at Y100 today. The person from ontd_ai who won the contest to have a 1-on-1 with Kris was there and videotaped the whole thing. I expect she will put these up on YouTube eventually…

  398. Well, considering that TFM went to #8 on iTunes without pretty much any airplay (11 spins?) or a video (at the time), I’m not too worried. Yes, it got 2012 press, but it didn’t get ADAM LAMBERT’S FIRST SINGLE FROM HIS DEBUT ALBUM FOR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT press. Adam does not make the decisions, but I believe he has some sort of say, and if the song wasn’t right–RCA has a LOT of of money riding on Adam–they wouldn’t release it as the first single.

    Pink is having a helluva good year, BTW.

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  400. What the actual frack? I’m not feeling this, yo.

    But typical of 19 to choose a cover to release as the first single. I would rather have Strut, or something like that, instead.

    I thought it was discussed that this wasn’t a cover?

  401. Yeah, I thought that the song was just a discard from Pink’s latest album — similar to Miss Independent being a discard from C. Aguilera’s album? Didn’t seem to hinder Ms. Clarkson any, so I don’t see the concern about it being a cover.

    Plus, even if it was a cover, does it matter really? For Adam? I may have missed a memo here (these threads move fast, yo) but it’s not like Adam is being marketed as a singer/songwriter, is he?

  402. Pink has a song ‘What do you Want from Me’  on the Clean version of Funhouse w/ snippett here:

    Actually, no, that’s on the album and it’s not titled What do You Want from Me. That must be mistitled on the Tower cite.

    ETA: Yes the tracks are switched, but all of those tracks at Tower are on the Funhouse CD. I know, I have it, listen to it alot, and have it memorized. Srsly, it’s a major fav. Believe me, there’s no new track at that site. :-)

  403. Well…this song could showcase his voice really well. Maybe he speeds the tempo up a bit? I can see him really BRINGING IT (think ROF). Lots o people love RoF. And this track was def not released…

    Need actual snippet please, RCA. Do not want to hear Pink sing it, want to hear Adam sing it.

  404. I think the audio clips are switched from the song above it (One foot Wrong)

    Apparently it was on the Towers version and not Amazon or others

  405. Plus, does it matter really? For Adam? I may have missed a memo here (these threads move fast, yo) but it’s not like Adam is being marketed as a singer/songwriter, is he?

    Well, he IS being marketed as new and original and interesting, so this could be seen as retreading old musical ground or something.

    But still. Didn’t really care that LLWD was a cover; wouldn’t care if WDYWFM was a cover. I just care that it doesn’t seem like a fun, dancey, entertaining song but more of a moody, broody one.

  406. Pink has a song ‘What do you Want from Me’  on the Clean version of Funhouse w/ snippett here:

    Actually, no, that’s on the album and it’s not titled What do You Want from Me. That must be mistitled on the Tower cite.

    Really? Odd of Tower to do so, but good to figure that out.

  407. holy confoozlement batman.

    i want the single. right the eff now. but that does not sound like a “immagonna dance around the AMAs with flames comin outta my head!” kind of song.

  408. WHERE IS MJ? NEW THREAD NEEDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    No new thread until 19 confirms it.

  409. That Tower site is all messed up. If you click on I Don’t Believe You it plays So What.

  410. Yeah, the track listing for Funhouse doesn’t include that song at all.

    1.So What
    2.Sober
    3.I Don’t Believe You
    4.One Foot Wrong
    5.Please Don’t’ Leave Me
    6.Bad Influence
    7.Funhouse
    8.Crystal Ball
    9.Mean
    10.It’s All Your Fault
    11.Ave Mary A
    12.Glitter in the Air
    *Deluxe edition includes:

    13. Why Did I Ever Like You

    14. Could’ve Had Everything

    15. ‘So What’  Bonus Video (watch it here)

    16. This Is How It Goes Down (*pre-order only)

  411. whoa. mass twitter hysteria. looks like the album tracklist selection is imminent.

    OhFerras PRAY RIGHT NOW!!!!!! EVERYONE!!! NOW!!! NOW!!!! NOW!!!!!!!! ITS TIME!!!

    OhFerras YOU KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT!! NOW GO!!!!!!! I GIVE IT TO THE UNIVERSE!!!!! WHATEVER WILL BE WILL BE!

    OhFerras By the power vested in me i conduct this spell to sway life into my favor at this moment! May we win!!!!!!!

    OhFerras Time for prayers sillies. The fans know what im talking about!

    ali22san @OhFerras omg stop I’m coming to get u now. Die die.

  412. Now peeps are saying it is the FIFTH audio !!!

    Nope – track 5 is “Please don’t leave me”.

  413. Ferras and Alisan are so cute. I hope their song gets chosen <3 And also Sleep Walker.

  414. Having spent 3 months in Kazakhstan and few years ago, I can personally confirm that they are indeed up on the latest music.

    LOL – it was one of the far away lands I could actually spell, because my brother in law was stationed there.

    The song is not on Funhouse. Pink never released it. I don’t know what people here consider the proper definition of a cover though. This is a song sung by Adam, written by someone else.

  415. Having spent 3 months in Kazakhstan and few years ago, I can personally confirm that they are indeed up on the latest music.

    Yes, poor Kazakhstan catches all the grief amongst the Stans (seriously, I used to think “Stan” slang was some take-off of all the Stans (means people. Kazakh people, Uzbeki people, etc. Except for Pakistan which I seem to recall is a bit of an acronym)). Pretty soon, it’s going to be the only place supporting the International Space Station. That’s where the Baikonur Cosmodrome (think all those Soyuz missions) is and it’s become one of the major launching points for satellites.

    Uzbekistan, now they have a bit of room to grow, but they still have that modern music.

  416. Pink has a song ‘What do you Want from Me’  on the Clean version of Funhouse w/ snippett here:

    http://www.tower.com/funhouse-pink-cd/wapi/112479806

    What the actual heck? I have Pink’s Funhouse and that track is not in my iTunes.

    That entire Tower track listing is wrong, as far as the listening goes. Every track is wrong except for Glitter in the Air. They are the real Funhouse songs, if you listen, but the titles are wrong, all mixed up, and there isn’t a “What Do You Want From Me.”

  417. Please help me, a mere mortal, understand the power of AInow. From what I can tell (and by the way I am not disputing its claims) it is just an independent blog site and someone there called the radio station that did the twit earlier today. Now, no one at the radio station is affiliated with 19…and Adam is not scheduled (that I can tell) to break his single there.

    So who is AInow and how do they have so much insight? Thanks.

  418. I give up.

    Tower’s site is worse than my old planning firm’s was………….

  419. holy confoozlement batman.

    i want the single. right the eff now. but that does not sound like a ‘immagonna dance around the AMAs with flames comin outta my head!’  kind of song.

    Ditto!!! C’mon Adam, a snippet, something, anything!!

  420. Poor Ferras, I follow him on twitter and his Blackberry died, has no one’s phone numbers written down and is trying to get Allisan Porter to call him!

  421. but that does not sound like a ‘immagonna dance around the AMAs with flames comin outta my head!’  kind of song.

    LOL but the song for which P!nk did a trapeze act at the VMAs didn’t scream, “trapeze” either. So there’s that.

    Now peeps are saying it is the FIFTH audio !!!

    Um, no. That’s Please Don’t Leave Me — P!nk actually released that one to radio as a single! Folks, none of those songs at Tower are new. They all are on Funhouse.

  422. Tess
    October 26, 2009 at 10:38 pm
    Please help me, a mere mortal, understand the power of AInow. From what I can tell (and by the way I am not disputing its claims) it is just an independent blog site and someone there called the radio station that did the twit earlier today. Now, no one at the radio station is affiliated with 19′ ¦and Adam is not scheduled (that I can tell) to break his single there.

    So who is AInow and how do they have so much insight? Thanks.

    They don’t have any insite and Brian Douglas has tweeted that he hasn’t heard the song.

  423. Kris interviewed w the Cinci DJ Q102.

    Kris is JIVE ….. Pink is JIVE ……..

    “loose lips”

  424. That entire Tower track listing is wrong, as far as the listening goes. Every track is wrong except for Glitter in the Air. They are the real Funhouse songs, if you listen, but the titles are wrong, all mixed up, and there isn’t a ‘What Do You Want From Me.’ 

    They also have songs that don’t appear on the Funhouse album.

    I think there was one call boring. I’m not thinking that Tower is a premier place to purchase music.

    Yes, I don’t get all the grief Kazakhstan gets.

    And the women I saw there were gorgeous, tall and exotic looking.

  425. If you were to go by the twits of the songwriters this IS the biggest thing since sliced white bread. I feel like I’m spying in the girls restroom when the prom King and Queen are about to announced. OK…so they don’t have that stuff anymore…do they still have proms? Oh, of course they do, that is where parents have to spend several hundred dollars to get their gangly teen a tux, a limo, a corsage,and they have to talk him into getting a haircut and not wearing sneakers.

  426. Kris interviewed w the Cinci DJ Q102.

    Kris is JIVE ‘ ¦.. Pink is JIVE ‘ ¦’ ¦..

    ‘loose lips’ 

    If it’s true, is someone really saying that’s what happened or is it just supposition?

  427. From the P!nk fan-site – there’s the tracks for Funhouse – you can see What Ya Want From Me?” (Pink, Max Martin, Shellback) listed under “leftover tracks”.

  428. I think there was one call boring. I’m not thinking that Tower is a premier place to purchase music.

    LOL, yeah, that’s It’s All Your Fault, which is on Funhouse. This is what we’re saying though. Not only is the track order jumbled, the titles are wrong… like the title, “What Do You Want From Me!” :-)

  429. They also have songs that don’t appear on the Funhouse album.

    I think there was one call boring. I’m not thinking that Tower is a premier place to purchase music.

    Only the titles are wrong. If you listen the songs are the songs on Funhouse. They just titled them wrong and mixed them up. It’s pretty bad!

    I don’t think P!NK is with Jive, either. She is still with LaFace records.

  430. but that does not sound like a ‘immagonna dance around the AMAs with flames comin outta my head!’  kind of song.

    LOL but the song for which P!nk did a trapeze act at the VMAs didn’t scream, ‘trapeze’  either. So there’s that.

    a very valid point…. hmmm. maybe the head of fire will signify his burning love? or a scorned!lover’s rage?

    as tim gunn would say, im sure adam will “make it work” (but im still not convinced this is the single).

    I feel like I’m spying in the girls restroom when the prom King and Queen are about to announced.

    yes! me too! and i can’t hear anything but muffled voices through this dang cup im holding up to the door. “and adam’s first single is…. waa wuh wuh waa waa!!!”

  431. “Kris interviewed w the Cinci DJ Q102.

    Kris is JIVE ‘ ¦.. Pink is JIVE ‘ ¦’ ¦..

    ‘loose lips’ 

    If it’s true, is someone really saying that’s what happened or is it just supposition?”

    All those things are true – I’m just supposing that that might have been the DJ’s conduit to the info.

    How the heck else does some DJ in OHIO get the BIG SCOOP?

    Quite a coincidence.

  432. 1) Kris photo shoot = gorgeous
    2) Kris’s prank is hilarious
    3) how come it’s so long before we get Adam’s single… fortunately it’s just matter of days now and .. Pink!! really hope it’s a up-tempo song

  433. Oh Em Gee!! They both might have covers for their first singles!! LOL.

    Like any of that matters. I just want the song to be good.

    ETA: Having trouble with chat. Is it down, or is my connection retard…mbps challenged?

  434. OMG all the excitement esp on twitter….I don’t know if twitter will be able to handle ferras/alisan and amiee’s tweets if their tracks are indeed selected

  435. ‘Kris interviewed w the Cinci DJ Q102.

    Kris is JIVE ‘ ¦.. Pink is JIVE ‘ ¦’ ¦..

    ‘loose lips’ 

    you really think that Kris has gone from “tight lips” to “loose lips” ?
    that would be very surprising..

  436. I just listened to the snippet 3 times, and I love it. Max martin, probably did some tweeking. This so reminds me, of the mood of David Bowie.

    Plus, we haven’t hear the chorus, and it could easily take off, into Adam land. I am not at least worried, because they have so many songs to choose from. Maybe this is, “the Pied Piper,” of the songs to choose from for the 1st single?
    It sounds sexy, allurring to me. Bring it on!

  437. PINK isn’t with Jive

    And Kris would be like the last person to spill secrets about Adam’s single…until the last couple days it was nearly impossible to get Kris to spill any details about his OWN stuff. That guy knows how to keep his mouth shut…he wouldn’t be giving a DJ in Cincinnati any info

  438. dsp
    October 26, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    OMG all the excitement esp on twitter’ ¦.I don’t know if twitter will be able to handle ferras/alisan and amiee’s tweets if their tracks are indeed selected

    ROTFL

    So true, so very true. Can you imagine the trending?

    BTW, I tweeted AINow to see if they could get more official confirmation so MJ could start the thread ;) (And we could all sleep tonight.)

    In the meantime, I am listening to Alisan’s album. Srsly, download it. She has a really pretty voice.

  439. Does anyone know the name of the photographer who was shooting Kris in the video that was posted? I work in the biz and I wonder if it is someone I know. Thanks.

  440. BTW, I tweeted AINow to see if they could get more official confirmation so MJ could start the thread ;) (And we could all sleep tonight.)

    I just shot an email to my source who has a direct line to 19. Something about this doesn’t seem right.

  441. I just shot an email to my source who has a direct line to 19. Something about this doesn’t seem right.

    I hope they email back soon :)

    I’ll live even if it’s the Pink single though. I’ll just be a bit disappointed.

  442. LaFace and Jive are both part of Zomba Label group. I just did a search.

  443. LaFace records is under Jive, right?

    Yes, under the Jive Label Group (or is it still Zomba? I get confused)

    Anyway, they’re both under the same umbrella (so to speak).

  444. Okay, so does anyone remember (or have it saved or a linky) what the actual description of the P!nk song was? I think it was in EW but I didn’t save it and I’m seriously mixing all of the various song titles/vague descriptions up in my head. A lot.

  445. i know that AINow has confirmed a couple of things in the past that turned out to be true. but i really doubt they’ll choose any type of “leftover” song for adam’s first single. but as with the previous debut single drama, a song left off an album doesn’t necessarily mean it wasn’t great; just didn’t fit the vibe of the album. if it’s max martin produced, i’m sure radio will eat it up.

  446. I’ll live even if it’s the Pink single though. I’ll just be a bit disappointed.

    Why? Every song on Funhouse is amazing! Max Martin did four songs on it and they are all great.

  447. La Face is part of the Zomba Music Group. Jive is part of the Zomba Music Group. They are not the same label. They are both part of the Zomba Music Group which is a division of Sony Music Entertainment. I’ll believe it when I hear it from Adam or 19. A radio DJ in Cincinnati may have the right info, but since it’s the same song that was rumored all week on twitter, I’m not sure.

  448. i want the single. right the eff now. but that does not sound like a ‘immagonna dance around the AMAs with flames comin outta my head!’  kind of song.

    Is that what Adam has been planning to do? Bwah! That would have been epically hilarious. Yeah, I can see why he might not want to wear a flaming headdress. Heh.

  449. Okay, so does anyone remember (or have it saved or a linky) what the actual description of the P!nk song was? I think it was in EW but I didn’t save it and I’m seriously mixing all of the various song titles/vague descriptions up in my head. A lot.

    This is how Adam described it in EW recently:

    “It works on a relationship level, but I also relate to the sense of talking to the public. Like “this whole thing’s a little freaked out, but please have faith in me, because I won’t disappoint you.”

    Sounds very Adam to me. So, do we know this is supposed to be a slower song? Sounds slightly angry to me – which fits Adam’s description of edgy pop (definitely Pink). I like “angry intense” Adam – so I would be happy with that :-)

  450. i know that AINow has confirmed a couple of things in the past that turned out to be true.

    They’ve reported things that turned out to be dead false, too, like the stalker stuff and the westwood baptist church on the west coast.

    As far as I’m concerned, it’s still a rumor.

  451. I don’t know what people here consider the proper definition of a cover though. This is a song sung by Adam, written by someone else.

    Just a reminder folks. A cover is remake of a song previously performed/recorded by another artist. If pink never released a song, and it goes to another artist, it is not a cover. Adam doing say, Sober, would be a cover. This Pink/Martin song would not be a cover. But I am not believing a thing about a single until I receive a tweet from His Hotness himself. He has let us know the important things. let’s just chill.

  452. Why? Every song on Funhouse is amazing! Max Martin did four songs on it and they are all great.

    I like Pink’s style, and think Adam’s vocals could do some really awesome things with that kind of sound.

    The only thing that has me nervous is that it didn’t make the cut for her album, but then, similar to the Gaga song, if the main album is so strong there are additional songs that are great but just didn’t make the cut, that’s fine with me.

    Or, of course, it could just be that the style didn’t work for the cohesive album they wanted to create, or a million other reasons.

  453. As far as I’m concerned, it’s still a rumor.

    Thanks for letting us know, MJ – I’ll trust it when either you (or Adam ;-)) confirm.

    Or maybe just you, cuz Adam can be all cryptic in his tweets sometimes :-)

  454. I like ‘angry intense’  Adam ‘“ so I would be happy with that :-)

    I like angry!Adam too but why did I think his first song would be a sonic lobotomy dance tune? Did I dream that up?

  455. I’m not saying Kris spilled the beans… I’m just saying that the DJ had conversations with JIVE-types while Kris was interviewing … and these JIVE-types might have had insight into Pink’s single for Adam and the DJ could have wormed it out of them (even inadvertantly)

  456. but i really doubt they’ll choose any type of ‘leftover’  song for adam’s first single.

    Who knows what it is. As others noted, P!nk’s fans have it listed as leftover. But, I also read that she chose to omit it from the album when she was getting back together with Cary and thought it would not be good to release it. So, not leftover as in, not good enough. Again, who knows.

    Adam’s description does sound like a fit for him and for a release, at least to me. And, I completely agree with PattyH, Funhouse is a fantastic album. Love, love, love it.

    The only thing I’ve been thinking is based on Adam’s tweets awhile back. He clearly was listening to P!nk and he said something like I Don’t Believe You took his breath away, or some such… I happen to agree. That is a beautiful song and one of my favs. I’ve been thinking WDYWFM may have a similar vibe which caused it to be left off the CD so as not to be repetitive. All baseless speculation on my part though, so those not wanting slow and emotional for a first single, don’t panic yet!

  457. The poster on AO who saw the page with “What Ya Want From me” as Adam’s first single wasn’t lying. She really did see the page although no one could duplicate how she arrived there. She also heard a 14 second clip of the song. She wasn’t sure what happened either but RCA was making some changes to the site when the page came up for her so it appears to have been something she wasn’t supposed to see. Some people thought the new RCA official poster was a fraud but he turned out to be genuine and the glitch happened shortly before he made his first post.

    Here is another screen capture she posted which clearly shows she was on adamofficial.com when the page popped up: http://i34.tinypic.com/2im9m3b.jpg

    Here’s the screen capture she posted first which doesn’t show the entire monitor screen with the address bar: http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae249/cearbhaill/996699.jpg

    BTW, the Title of the Pink song is “What Ya Want From Me”, not “What Do You Want From Me” and it has never been released.

    I agree it needs to be confirmed but I think RCA actually let the cat out of the bag by mistake when they were messing around with the AO website.

  458. I think, just for kicks it would be a fun exercise to figure out which songs on whose albums were written for someone else, rejected, and then showed up on someone else’s album and became a huge hit…No covers, allowed. I bet that the number would be pretty damn high. I mean Adam laid down 25 tracts…now what is going to happen to the 13 rejected songs. Either they will be held in reserve for Adam, at a later date, or shopped around to other artists.

    Inspiration and putting together good lyrics and music isn’t a 5 minute process…and a lot of these writers are really invested in these songs…I mean we have been dying with Aimee for months now. And we know she is already shopping around the 1 song that wasn’t used.

  459. I thought Pink didn’t use WDYWFM on Funhouse because she reconciled with her husband and the lyrics of WDYWFM were awkward after that.

  460. mj
    October 26, 2009 at 10:59 pm
    BTW, I tweeted AINow to see if they could get more official confirmation so MJ could start the thread (And we could all sleep tonight.)

    I just shot an email to my source who has a direct line to 19. Something about this doesn’t seem right.

    Good to know I’m not the only one who finds this a bit wacky.

    But on the other hand there have been so many weird leaks and wacky things, like putting Allison’s single on iTunes and Amazon before the announced date, than yanking it a day or two later. Or making TfM available in parts of Europen iTunes, but not America for another two days. A Friday drop date for LLWD. Is 19 always this sloppy and/or odd?

  461. Brooke White’s on Chelsea Lately right now. Omg. Polar opposites. First comment she makes is about Brooke’s nipples. lol

  462. Okay, being realistic now, I have a feeling we are *not* going to get confirmation till after TII opens, b/c, as someone noted, Adam would not want to take the spotlight away from MJ (not our MJ, the Michael Jackson one) and his doc. I have the feeling we get the word on Wednesday, AFTER TII is released, b/c 1) doc is out, 2) vid is out, so he’ll get more coverage after the release that RCA can leverage toward single’s release.

    IF this is true, given the twitter fracas ;), I have to think RCA/19 would be all over this. NADA. That makes me think this is not coming out tonight, and I have a sneaking suspicion that this is NOT going to be the first single. Not b/c it was Pink’s, not because it sucks, but because it isn’t the kind of glamrock pop that Adam has been pushing (so I still am not sure why Strut isn’t the first single). I have NO issue whatsoever if this single, whose title is too long for me to type out, gets chosen–I think it works well with the title of the album–but I don’t think it will be.

    BUT I DO NOT GIVE A DAMN. I JUST WANT A TITLE ALREADY.

  463. Brooke White’s on Chelsea Lately right now. Omg. Polar opposites. First comment she makes is about Brooke’s nipples. lol

    OMG! I have to see this! Poor Brooke. Hee

    Glad to see she’s doing more press for the album/ tour, though.

  464. Tess
    October 26, 2009 at 11:21 pm
    I think, just for kicks it would be a fun exercise to figure out which songs on whose albums were written for someone else, rejected, and then showed up on someone else’s album and became a huge hit’ ¦

    IIRC, there were some in the LLWD thread that did all that. same sport, different game. lol.

    mj
    October 26, 2009 at 11:11 pm
    They’ve reported things that turned out to be dead false, too, like the stalker stuff and the westwood baptist church on the west coast.

    yeah i don’t follow them too closely so i don’t know their track record. good to know.

    weareallinnocent
    October 26, 2009 at 11:18 pm
    So, not leftover as in, not good enough.

    yep, i said as much in my post ;)

  465. While we wait for official confirmation on what Adam’s single is and when it will drop and/or whether his album track list has been finalized, I have a very important question…

    When did Kris change his twitter page so that the wallpaper/background is that of his “man in the mirror” picture from his album cover shoot?

    I feel like I should turn in my badge as a huge Kris fan…I just noticed this. Is this a recent development?

  466. Well I guess there’s never a dull day on planet fierce .. I was just thinkng what a boring day it had been for Adam news .. or lack of it .. even if it is just a rumour…lol

  467. I also saw some rumor about how Adam’s TFM music video is NOT being shown with the MJ documentary. Rather it’s just a trailer for the movie with the TFM song on the trailer? Is this correct?

  468. I don’t have an issue with the song, I look forward to hearing it. I just don’t see it as his first single, seems a bit odd to me. But I’d be fine if it was. And no, I wouldn’t have a problem if it was an unreleased Pink song by Max Martin, sounds good to me. And no, as previously gone through and through, it won’t be a cover. Please let that stay in pudding pops.

  469. i find this whole screencap business a little funny… it was random and fleeting… she got to it on accident… and yet she thought to immediately take a screenshot? if i was in that situation i wouldnt automatically think “omg, this is going to disappear if i navigate away from this page, better take a screenshot”. AND, the way that adam news spreads so rapidly around those boards, she likely would have sounded the alarm and someone else would have seen it in the time it took RCA to fix the supposed glitch. i suppose it IS possible… im just skeptical.

  470. girlygirl, nice to break the tension. Here, here. :)

    Well, karenw, think of it this way: We KNOW tomorrow that Adam and Cook (still not sure why Cook–because he’s with RCA?) will be on the Red Carpet for TII and it will be broadcast on VH-1 and MTV, hence new interviews (perhaps some Cantiello snark, lol) and pictures!!!

    So maybe it was a slow Adam Day today, but it will be an exciting Adam Day tomorrow!’

    ETA: Hrrm on video. Hrrm. I have wondered, b/c TFM video w/ Adam (so yummy) gives away the movie. Granted, that’s not hard, but it does. So how do they play the movie trailer and have the song accompany it? Well…more stuff to obsess about during the Adam Storm.

  471. I also saw some rumor about how Adam’s TFM music video is NOT being shown with the MJ documentary. Rather it’s just a trailer for the movie with the TFM song on the trailer? Is this correct?

    That’s what I heard as well, which is why I asked about this earlier on this thread as well. And why I said I said people shouldn’t expect any bump for TfM from TII.

    Oh and I think it would be really funny if it IS just the music for the trailer. Ha!

  472. They removed the lyrics for Pink’s What Do You Want From Me? from a lyric site and the snippet is removed from the music site someone listed a few minutes ago. So – could be the song – I like a lot of Pink and he could make it his own anyway.

  473. yep, i said as much in my post ;)

    Whoops, I’m having trouble keeping up, sorry. I mean, er, great minds! (Add TxArchitect. Based on her recent post, I see she’s sharing the brain now as well.)

    I’m probably backing away from the keyboard now, so it’s in your capable hands. Carry on~ :-)

  474. IMHO, Pink’s style fits Adam more than Gaga’s.
    Funhouse >>>>>>>>> The Fame

  475. AndreaH
    October 26, 2009 at 11:20 pm
    The poster on AO who saw the page with ‘What Ya Want From me’  as Adam’s first single wasn’t lying. She really did see the page although no one could duplicate how she arrived there. She also heard a 14 second clip of the song. She wasn’t sure what happened either but RCA was making some changes to the site when the page came up for her so it appears to have been something she wasn’t supposed to see. Some people thought the new RCA official poster was a fraud but he turned out to be genuine and the glitch happened shortly before he made his first post.

    Here is another screen capture she posted which clearly shows she was on adamofficial.com when the page popped up: http://i34.tinypic.com/2im9m3b.jpg

    Here’s the screen capture she posted first which doesn’t show the entire monitor screen with the address bar: http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae249/cearbhaill/996699.jpg

    BTW, the Title of the Pink song is ‘What Ya Want From Me’ , not ‘What Do You Want From Me’  and it has never been released.

    If the AI.com story is true then either 1. They retitled the song OR 2. Someone working for RCA misspelled the song title.

    The Pink Funhouse Track list was released with the song title as “What Do You Want From Me?” Take a look at the Tower Record link — they still have the preliminary track list for the album in the description and the title of this song is there. Also chech the Pink fansites.

    Regarding AINow.com — I know nothing about that site except they have been wrong on two big scoops. They do have the story of the Pink song screwed up — it wasn’t that this song “didn’t make” Pinks album, it was that Pink decided not to finish recording it or include it on her album for personal reasons. She wrote the song when she separated from her husband Cary and the started dating again when she was recording her last album. Check out the Pink fansites and you can get the full story.

    I am with MJ on this one — it is still a rumor in my book. I’ve waited this long, I can wait another day.

  476. AndreaH
    October 26, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    The poster on AO who saw the page with ‘What Ya Want From me’  as Adam’s first single wasn’t lying. She really did see the page although no one could duplicate how she arrived there. She also heard a 14 second clip of the song. She wasn’t sure what happened either but RCA was making some changes to the site when the page came up for her so it appears to have been something she wasn’t supposed to see. Some people thought the new RCA official poster was a fraud but he turned out to be genuine and the glitch happened shortly before he made his first post.

    Lady Gaga was interviewed today and Adam’s name was brought up at about 11:00 towards the end a small snippet was played and the DJ claimed it was Adam’s new song. I don’t know. maybe?

  477. I also saw some rumor about how Adam’s TFM music video is NOT being shown with the MJ documentary. Rather it’s just a trailer for the movie with the TFM song on the trailer? Is this correct?

    I don’t think anyone knows anything for sure. Just a lot of speculation. We’ll find out soon! :)

    FWIW this dj in Cincy is saying he spoke to RCA today about Adam’s single.

    And, I have seen a rumor floating around that the reason WDYWFM didn’t make P!nk’s album is because of personal reasons (in that it’s about a guy she was seeing before she got back with Carey Hart — that’s his name, right?), not because it wasn’t good enough or whatever.

    ETA: oh so it’s not just me that’s seen the rumor then. Good.

  478. Yeah, the last couple days have been full of Kris stuff and not so much Adam. Which I’m always happy about, because I think the news shouldn’t always have to be all about Adam. In fact, I’d really like to hear some more about Allison (as well as more on both Kris and Adam, of course). She’s been overshadowed so far by both Adam and Kris in terms of news items/performances/interviews, etc. Hopefully we will start to hear some more about her in the next couple weeks.

    But tomorrow should definitely be an exciting Adam day.

  479. If there is no TFM, why is Adam going to be at the opening? And I still don’t know why Cook is going…reason? I’m not complaining in the slightest, I just don’t understand.

    lifeisgood: huh

    This all gets curiouser and curiouser…

  480. I also saw some rumor about how Adam’s TFM music video is NOT being shown with the MJ documentary. Rather it’s just a trailer for the movie with the TFM song on the trailer? Is this correct?

    Columbia Pictures press release was that it is the premiere of special 2012 trailer and the TfM music video. What is not clear is if there is a second TfM MV or if it will be the same MV — but it clearly says the TfMMV.

    Also the President of Sony Music said that the TfM MV would be shown in a separate statement.

  481. From a HUGE Pink stan:

    1)The mp3 snippet of Track #4 titled, What Do you Want From Me is actually the song “One Foot Wrong” on Pink’s actual Funhouse album (awesome song, BTW. listen to the whole thing)
    2)Track #11 titled “This is How it Goes” is actually “Ave Mary A” on Funhouse. “This is How it Goes” is not on Funhouse.
    3)Track #10 titled “Boring” is actually “It’s All Your Fault” on Funhouse. “Boring” is not on Funhouse.
    4)WDYWFM has never been released or performed live by Pink. It was written about someone she was dating during her separation from her husband, but by the time Funhouse was being completed, she and hubby had reconciled, so it’s not on the album.

    Basically, the entire track listing and mp3 syncing is effed up on that Tower site. No idea what happened there.

  482. The Pink Funhouse Track list was released with the song title as ‘What Do You Want From Me?’  Take a look at the Tower Record link ‘” they still have the preliminary track list for the album in the description and the title of this song is there. Also chech the Pink fansites.

    But the Tower Record website has been proven to be completely false. Wrong songs for the clips, wrong song titles. Checking out Pink’s fansite shows this song was never on the album. That it was left off the album. I posted earlier the real Pink Funhouse tracklistings, not the Tower failbot version, even the alternative deluxe and special pre-order tracks, and this song wasn’t on it.

  483. Ok – this is the actual quote from MTV.com, from Adam’s post-AMA interview about the TFM mv before TII:

    “The ‘2012’ trailer that we put together with the [‘Time for Miracles’ music video] will be premiering at the Michael Jackson film,” Lambert revealed to MTV News, referring to a special trailer that will run before the upcoming documentary “Michael Jackson’s This Is It.”

    This sounds like EITHER the actual mv we saw already, or a special “hybrid” of the TFM mv and more scenes from the movie.

    And I agree that Adam wouldn’t be appearing on the red carpet if the mv wasn’t showing. As it is, I was kinda surprised he would be there.

  484. ‘It works on a relationship level, but I also relate to the sense of talking to the public. Like ‘this whole thing’s a little freaked out, but please have faith in me, because I won’t disappoint you.’ 

    Sounds very Adam to me. So, do we know this is supposed to be a slower song? Sounds slightly angry to me ‘“ which fits Adam’s description of edgy pop (definitely Pink).

    Thanks so much for this, Mary. And my question is the same as yours. If Adam/EW reporter didn’t describe the actual sound of the song, do we know it’s slow and dark? Is that just a guess?

    Gigi3:I like angry!Adam too but why did I think his first song would be a sonic lobotomy dance tune? Did I dream that up?

    Nope, that’s basically what Adam has been telling us all summer, but as we know, the final selection of the first single isn’t completely up to him.

    AndreaH:The poster on AO … She also heard a 14 second clip of the song.

    Ah, interesting. I don’t go to AO or any fansites really, so didn’t know any of this. Did she share her impressions of the 14 seconds she heard?

  485. I asked about the TFM video earlier. Wasn’t it a big deal annoucement on some radio interview that it would premere before TII? I remember the news was a pretty big deal at the time, so now I am totally confused if it is just a movie trailer. Weren’t some Adam fans buying tickets just to see the music video on the big screen?

  486. That’s what I heard as well, which is why I asked about this earlier on this thread as well. And why I said I said people shouldn’t expect any bump for TfM from TII.

    Why will people expect TFM mv be shown before TII? It would be a trailer for 2012, maybe with TFM embeded even w/o the face of Adam showing. At least that what I understood from the very beginning.

  487. And I still don’t know why Cook is going’ ¦reason? I’m not complaining in the slightest, I just don’t understand.

    LOL! Yes – I love Cook, but tbh I don’t quite know what he’s doing there either.

  488. AndreaH
    October 26, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    The poster on AO who saw the page with ‘What Ya Want From me’  as Adam’s first single wasn’t lying. She really did see the page although no one could duplicate how she arrived there. She also heard a 14 second clip of the song. She wasn’t sure what happened either but RCA was making some changes to the site when the page came up for her so it appears to have been something she wasn’t supposed to see. Some people thought the new RCA official poster was a fraud but he turned out to be genuine and the glitch happened shortly before he made his first post.

    Lady Gaga was interviewed today and Adam’s name was brought up at about 11:00 towards the end a small snippet was played and the DJ claimed it was Adam’s new song. I don’t know. maybe?

    http://www.kiddlive.com/Article.asp?id=1561565&spid=

    Sorry reposting

  489. ‘The ‘2012’ ² trailer that we put together with the [‘Time for Miracles’ music video] will be premiering at the Michael Jackson film,’  Lambert revealed to MTV News, referring to a special trailer that will run before the upcoming documentary ‘Michael Jackson’s This Is It.’ 

    This sounds like EITHER the actual mv we saw already, or a special ‘hybrid’  of the TFM mv and more scenes from the movie.

    Well I would think more of a hybrid, because the MV didn’t show any of the lead actors, and well, that’s typically not something trailers do. So a combo would be good. And maybe they can clean up the CGI while doing so. Just saying.

    Oh and I still think it would be funny if it was just a special trailer with Adam’s music on it, but no Adam except at the end a “Time For Miracles performed by Adam Lambert.” What can I say, I have a twisted sense of humor.

  490. I asked about the TFM video earlier. Wasn’t it a big deal annoucement on some radio interview that it would premere before TII? I remember the news was a pretty big deal at the time, so now I am totally confused if it is just a movie trailer. Weren’t some Adam fans buying tickets just to see the music video on the big screen?

    Yes – with Adam himself talking about the TFM vid showing. I don’t think he’d get so excited about it if it was just the 2012 trailer with his voice in the background (and possibly no credit on screen for it).

    So I’m expecting one of the two scenarios above (either the TFM mv we’ve already seen, or a new mv that splices in Adam with more 2012 clips). For budget purposes, I’m guessing they’d just stick with the original mv, but put the 2012 logo and release date pretty prominently on it, and/or tack an actual trailer before or after it. Just a guess.

  491. And maybe they can clean up the CGI while doing so. Just saying.

    LOL. I concur.

    Oh and I still think it would be funny if it was just a special trailer with Adam’s music on it, but no Adam except at the end a ‘Time For Miracles performed by Adam Lambert.’  What can I say, I have a twisted sense of humor.

    No, truthiness – that would majorly majorly suck (and I too have a twisted sense of humor, but this is not the time and/or place for it.)

    Plus I am so not seeing TII if this is the case .

  492. It was a joke. They were playing the end of BTBW and then joked with drum beats. It was not a snippet of Adam’s new song.

    I listened to that whole interview. It was great. I love “Ga!” I’m pretty sure that was the ending to WLL though, not BTBW.

  493. Oh and I still think it would be funny if it was just a special trailer with Adam’s music on it, but no Adam except at the end a ‘Time For Miracles performed by Adam Lambert.’  What can I say, I have a twisted sense of humor

    Truthiness, I would have to be very upset about this. ;)

    Interesting GaGa interview. She said that the first album was intended to provoke but the one would not. She also spoke about her father’s open-heart surgery and how proud he was when he came out of surgery and was told that she had achieved four #1 singles, first time ever for debut album. Dad was proud.

    In Adam news, GaGa was asked to write for Adam. She said that a song was already written, and it didn’t work for her, but maybe it would work for him. They met, they locked lips…no, but they had a great session (don’t know if track was recorded, I assume it was). Wouldn’t release title–“it’s Adam’s time…you never debut again” (awww). And at the end, the djs played the end of BTBW wail. lol

    ETA: Totally BTBW, when he is on his back and does this spring thing. ;)

  494. Why will people expect TFM mv be shown before TII? It would be a trailer for 2012, maybe with TFM embeded even w/o the face of Adam showing. At least that what I understood from the very beginning.

    I know, that’s what I more expected as well. But I guess it could be maybe a hybrid with Adam’s MV, or some bits of Adam, but I am thinking not.

    . I don’t think he’d get so excited about it if it was just the 2012 trailer with his voice in the background (and possibly no credit on screen for it).

    Why not? It’s still a nice thing for him to be asked to do, and his voice is playing before MJ’s film. And he will probably have a title, like he did on the poster, like after the director and foo, “Time For Miracles,” by Adam Lambert, and that would be it. and yeah, he’d still be lucky to get that.

  495. And I still don’t know why Cook is going’ ¦reason? I’m not complaining in the slightest, I just don’t understand.

    Are we sure DC’s going or is everyone going on that one French Canadian article? Is DC going to be in LA tomorrow night? Hm.

  496. Wow, the twitter silence is deafening! Something tells me the album tracks have been finalized and the songwriters have been put on ‘radio silence’.

    I would be quite excited if the Pink song is the single. ‘Funhouse’  is a fabulous album. Adam could do wonders with a Pink song.

  497. oh yeah I forgot about the frontal lobotomy or whatever it was we were all going to have .. can’t remember if that related to the single or just an album track … if it’s the single I would like to know so I can be prepared for it .. better not arrange anything that takes much thinking that day

  498. Wow, the twitter silence is deafening! Something tells me the album tracks have been finalized and the songwriters have been put on ‘radio silence’.

    Officially nervous for Aimee and Alisan.

  499. Q3
    October 26, 2009 at 11:37 pm

    I also saw some rumor about how Adam’s TFM music video is NOT being shown with the MJ documentary. Rather it’s just a trailer for the movie with the TFM song on the trailer? Is this correct?

    Columbia Pictures press release was that it is the premiere of special 2012 trailer and the TfM music video. What is not clear is if there is a second TfM MV or if it will be the same MV ‘” but it clearly says the TfMMV.

    Also the President of Sony Music said that the TfM MV would be shown in a separate statement.

    Didn’t Adam say in one of the recent interviews (it could be one of the behind the scenes interviews) that it will be strange to see himself up there on a 30′ screen before TII or something to the effect?

  500. ali22san Sitting dying.

    ali22san Were all hearing the best record to hit the universe in quite a while. Whatever you think your gonna get from @adamlambert. Times a million.

    SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEE

  501. TWEETS!!!

    @ali22sanaWere all hearing the best record to hit the universe in quite a while. Whatever you think your gonna get from @adamlambert. Times a million.less than 10 seconds ago from UberTwitter

    Sitting dying.2 minutes ago from UberTwitter

  502. Okay, beaten, but

    WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? Did she make the album?!

    Not sure what this one means:

    GOOD!!less than a minute ago from UberTwitter

    I tweeted her for clarification. ;)

  503. This is supposed to be a new sneak peek posted Sunday of the video of Adam singing TFM for 2012 not Adams Video, he is singing but scenes of the disaster are in the clip some new parts I haven’t seen before.

    A short clip

  504. Oh and I still think it would be funny if it was just a special trailer with Adam’s music on it, but no Adam except at the end a ‘Time For Miracles performed by Adam Lambert.’  What can I say, I have a twisted sense of humor.

    No, truthiness – that would majorly majorly suck (and I too have a twisted sense of humor, but this is not the time and/or place for it.)

    Plus I am so not seeing TII if this is the case .

    Sure it’s the time and place for it! Why wouldn’t it be? What would be the right time and place? Better start discussing it now, because it could be happening. Which yes, you won’t be going to TII, it seems.

    Yeah it would suck for some Adam fans who thought it would be more. I admit I hoped it would be more, but realistically I don’t see that the trailer for the film wasn’t going to be all about the film. Sony pictures doesn’t care for Adam above a $280(or whatever) million dollar film.

  505. ali22sanaWere all hearing the best record to hit the universe in quite a while. Whatever you think your gonna get from @adamlambert. Times a million.less than 10 seconds ago from UberTwitter

    Doesn’t that sound like they are actually listening to the album right now. Why would they be invited to listen if their song wasn’t on it? I’ll bet the Alisan and Ferras song made the cut!

  506. Well I would think more of a hybrid, because the MV didn’t show any of the lead actors, and well, that’s typically not something trailers do.

    Yes it does. It doesn’t show very much of them, but it does. There is one shot I remember where this big wave is crashing down and John Cusak/wife are kissing their kid.

    Why, yes, I do pick a lot of nits. Why do you ask?

  507. That list on the French site could just be names that were invited but not necessarily confirmed to actually attend. I can’t figure out why DC would be invited anymore than I can figure out why Ashlee Simpson or Paris Hilton would be lol.

  508. PattyH, that is what I was thinking. It sounds like they are actually hearing the CD.

  509. schoolmama
    October 27, 2009 at 12:03 am
    This is supposed to be a new sneak peek posted Sunday of the video of Adam singing TFM for 2012 not Adams Video, he is singing but scenes of the disaster are in the clip some new parts I haven’t seen before.

    A short clip

    That was the clip from a couple of weeks ago. Before the song was released. It’s not new.

  510. Alisan also Tweeted earlier that she was “coming to get u” Ferras. I’ll bet they made the cut and are listening right now! I am so excited!

  511. NEW TWEET:

    ali22san I can’t guys I love you so much!half a minute ago from UberTwitter

    Hrrm…Twitter is going wild again…

  512. I think a hybrid clip of TfM would be better, because frankly, the Adamcentric version doesn’t use the best special effects- the Christ the Redeemer statue falling, etc.- or feature (hardly) any of the stars of the movie. Some of these scenes spliced in with some of the best scenes with Adam would be amazing, imo. It would also advertise the movie more, which seems logical. Even if it’s just the movie trailer with Adam’s song, that’s still huge, and people will remember it. To me it’s all win-win. No down side at all!

  513. ali22san I can’t guys I love you so much!half a minute ago from UberTwitter

    OK, that is one excited Alisan!
    Any Tweets from Aimee?

  514. @ali22sanaWere all hearing the best record to hit the universe in quite a while. Whatever you think your gonna get from @adamlambert. Times a million.less than 10 seconds ago from UberTwitter

    Sitting dying.2 minutes ago from UberTwitter

    I don’t wanna be to hyped. but omg how awesome this album could be?!

  515. OK, that is one excited Alisan!
    Any Tweets from Aimee?

    If her song is not selected, will she be in the hearing party?

  516. If her song is not selected, will she be in the hearing party?

    She’s not in LA right now, I don’t think.

  517. was wondering why it was so quiet on the other thread when I posted such big news.

  518. The Twitter world (not me, of course, ha ha) is begging Alisan to give it up. I feel good about this…she gets her album released AND she makes Adam’s album. Happy day for Ms. Porter, who is not checking her Twitter account at the moment, I guarantee you. Same with Ferras.

  519. lee cheery just tweeted:

    Adam’s shit is gonna kick your ass and slap your momma!!

  520. Yes it does. It doesn’t show very much of them, but it does. There is one shot I remember where this big wave is crashing down and John Cusak/wife are kissing their kid.

    Why, yes, I do pick a lot of nits. Why do you ask?

    You could see them from that crappy first version? I could barely tell what some people looked liked, it was so effing blurry. Then too I was distracted by all the pretty of Hobo!Adam and Roof!Proof angsty Adam, oh and laughing at the bad CGI, so that might have gotten in the way of my viewing of the video.

    I’ll have to go look at the later version that doesn’t suck, well the clarity of the video, if not parts of the video itself (not the dirty/pretty Adam parts, those parts remain good).

    But I still don’t think that the MV has enough of the actors or of the better special effects. Well here again, the film looks pretty crappy there, so ya know, relatively speaking of course.

  521. Ms. Porter, who is not checking her Twitter account at the moment, I guarantee you. Same with Ferras.

    His phone is broken so he probably won’t Tweet until he gets back to his computer.

  522. Aimee is in Nashville, right? She’s so quiet—feeling a little nervous for her.

  523. Truthy, I’m pretty sure that isn’t John Cusack in the scene with the wave crashing down.

  524. lee cheery just tweeted:

    Adam’s shit is gonna kick your ass and slap your momma!!

    Sounds like Adam might be having a small, private listening party with his Hollywood friends.

  525. Alisan will not confirm if her song made it but it seems so:

    can’t confirm but great song.

    @OhFerras omg stop I’m coming to get u now. Die die.

  526. It was a joke. They were playing the end of BTBW and then joked with drum beats. It was not a snippet of Adam’s new song.

    PattyH
    I listened to that whole interview. It was great. I love ‘Ga!’  I’m pretty sure that was the ending to WLL though, not BTBW.

    PattyH,
    It is BTBW. (I can name that tune in three notes. Or in this case… about 20.) :-)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0SGJm086cg

  527. ali22san RT @leecherry: Adam’s shit is gonna kick your ass and slap your momma!!less than 5 seconds ago from UberTwitter

    So she is in fact online and laughing at all of us.;)

    DAMN, I WANT TO GO TO BED AND CANNOT…

  528. I’m feeling kind of left out what with all these Adam friends and songwriters having their lobotomies, their asses kicked and their mommas slapped … I want to join in

  529. I like Alisan, but considering that she is such a close friend of Adam’s it’s hard for me to consider her at all unbiased when she talks about his stuff. Maybe Adam’s album will end up being the “best record to hit the universe in awhile”. That would be fantastic if that’s the case.

    But I’d rather hear that opinion from someone who has no personal connection to Adam…I’d be less likely to take it as OTT reaction if I heard or read it from someone that had no personal or professional ties to him. I have my fingers crossed that Adam’s album ends up being even half as good as the hype about it has been!

    I do hope Alisan’s song made the album cut. Her tweets suggest that it did.

  530. When the AInow info popped up earlier, my heart started beating fast. What will happen when the music arrives?

  531. I am not sure why there is a debate over whether Adam’s MV of TfM will be airing before MJ “This Is It” but Columbia Pictures and Sony Music have both confirmed that it will. From MTV News:

    Starting October 28, fans can check out the “Time for Miracles” music video on the big screen when a special extended “2012”/ “Time for Miracles” trailer runs before screenings of “Michael Jackson’s This Is It.”

    Link to article: http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1624326/20091021/lambert_adam_american_idol_.jhtml

    And yes, some lucky people will be to see the TfM MV in IMAX with real IMAX sound — equal to 3 CD’s in quality.

  532. Looks like Cassidy may be at the listening party, also!

    cassidyhaley not saying a word about what I’m doing but it is awesome.

    Hoping that Adam is surrounded by all of his good, good friends. So happy for him!!!

  533. girlygirl
    October 27, 2009 at 12:28 am
    I like Alisan, but considering that she is such a close friend of Adam’s it’s hard for me to consider her at all unbiased when she talks about his stuff. Maybe Adam’s album will end up being the ‘best record to hit the universe in awhile’ . That would be fantastic if that’s the case.

    But I’d rather hear that opinion from someone who has no personal connection to Adam’ ¦I’d be less likely to take it as OTT reaction if I heard or read it from someone that had no personal or professional ties to him. I have my fingers crossed that Adam’s album ends up being even half as good as the hype about it has been!

    Eh, we believe Parker, Slezak and Cantiello…it’s about the same these days. I’d like to just enjoy the moment for now.

  534. Gigi3
    October 27, 2009 at 12:31 am

    When the AInow info popped up earlier, my heart started beating fast. What will happen when the music arrives?

    Life as we know it will cease to exist.

  535. Looks like Cassidy may be at the listening party, also!

    cassidyhaley not saying a word about what I’m doing but it is awesome.

    Damn, they are such teases!

  536. There was such a quiet on twitter before this broke that we thought Alisan and Ferras were sulking. We knew that if it were good news we’d have heard something.

    It was the calm before the storm.

  537. Thanks Q3, by “special extended trailer,” sounds pretty clear that they will show both the trailer and the music video.

  538. This is supposed to be a new sneak peek posted Sunday of the video of Adam singing TFM for 2012 not Adams Video, he is singing but scenes of the disaster are in the clip some new parts I haven’t seen before.

    A short clip

    Ah yep. That would be what I would expect. New scenes, Adam’s music, his name at the end with the title of the song. EDITED after looking at Q3’s quote, but we’ll see. I think it will be odd, frankly, for the same song back to back with some of the same movie scenes. And yeah, still think it would be kind of tedious for most movie viewers.

    So yeah, I still think if it is just the trailer and that’s it? that will be high-sterically funny.

    All this Twitter guessing and Pink song stuff has gotten me all confused. I just want offical confirmation of the song list and the single, goddess damnit! and I want it soon! And where’s my hassenpfeffer??!!

  539. Truthiness, I may be wrong, but I bet the trailer does not have a music backing, but is strictly scenes from the movie. Then, the mv can follow.

  540. I’m feeling kind of left out what with all these Adam friends and songwriters having their lobotomies, their asses kicked and their mommas slapped ‘ ¦ I want to join in

    ME TOO!!!!

  541. When Adam’s music drops I’m going “offline” for a while to just enjoy it without all the drama, fan warring, and angst that the various AI sites produce. I want to enjoy the moment.

    That’s why I stayed out of the Kris threads yesterday; I wanted his excited fans to flail and have fun. I know by MJ’s rules you can say anything you want about the Idols and their music, but again, I just wanted them to have some fun.

    Since I also want to have fun listening to Adam’s songs, I’ll just stay away! I’m kind of excited about that. Because really, music is such a personal taste. Everyone doesn’t like everything. I love Adam’s voice, so I expect to love his album.

  542. Well, Alisan’s album is nice…but it’s not the same thing. :(

    I cannot believe Cassidy chimed in, too…the whole gang is there and we are here, dying…

    ETA: I will ignore any anti-Adam comments, that’s for sure. I won’t make any, I won’t comment on any, and I will just enjoy the album. I did speak up about a couple of Kris songs I liked, but it WAS their chance to flail. Now we get to…get ready to flail, b/c it’s silly to flail about other people’s flailing… ;)

  543. The name of the Pink song is “What Ya Want From Me”. Pink Floyd has a song called “What Do You Want From Me” which may be part of the confusion. I believe the screen capture by the poster on AO is legitimate because it has the correct title.

    Look under Pink’s songs listed here: (ASCAP search of works performed by Pink) http://tinyurl.com/yjv8urg

    The whole thing is very confusing but “What Ya Want From Me” is the correct title of Pink’s song.

  544. Tweets from Alisan Porter who is listening to Adam’s album:

    ali22san RT @leecherry: Adam’s shit is gonna kick your ass and slap your momma!!
    16 minutes ago from UberTwitter

    ali22san Were all hearing the best record to hit the universe in quite a while. Whatever you think your gonna get from @adamlambert. Times a million.
    38 minutes ago from UberTwitter

    ali22san Sitting dying.
    39 minutes ago from UberTwitter

  545. Truthiness
    October 27, 2009 at 12:35 am
    This is supposed to be a new sneak peek posted Sunday of the video of Adam singing TFM for 2012 not Adams Video, he is singing but scenes of the disaster are in the clip some new parts I haven’t seen before.

    A short clip

    That’s the same clip that was released WEEKS AGO.

  546. Seeing all the tweets coming in from Adam’s LA buddies, I wondered if Kris would be at the listening party, but it seems out of place to think of Kris hanging with this group.

    Not saying he couldn’t or shouldn’t be there… just seems out of context for Kradam. A liitle happy and sad all at the same time. The show and the tour all of a sudden seem so long ago. The kiddies are all grown up what with playing a mini concert at a Miami Dolphins game and walking the red carpet at a movie premiere! :-)

  547. Omg1 minute ago from UberTwitter

    Geez, Alisan, give it up, please…

    We need a thread about wishing we had a thread about Adam’s new single or track list or color of his toothpaste….

  548. Ah yep. That would be what I would expect. New scenes, Adam’s music, his name at the end with the title of the song. EDITED after looking at Q3’s quote, but we’ll see. I think it will be odd, frankly, for the same song back to back with some of the same movie scenes. And yeah, still think it would be kind of tedious for most movie viewers.

    So yeah, I still think if it is just the trailer and that’s it? that will be high-sterically funny.

    I know for a fact that there is a special 2012 trailers that was made to be aired with 2012 — and it does not include TfM. They could have changed it to incorporate TfM but I think there are two separte, bur related 2012 promos before TII. The new special 2012 Trailer, and the TfM MV. But will will all know in about 9 hours.

  549. @runawaysu OOOMMMGGG2 minutes ago from UberTwitter in reply to runawaysu

    GOD ALMIGHTY

    Q3, do you think that means there will be two videos shown? One that is Adam’s and one that is 2012’s with Adam’s song? I am once again confused…probably due to the stress involved with waiting for confirmation of something concerning FYE at all…

  550. Seeing all the tweets coming in from Adam’s LA buddies, I wondered if Kris would be at the listening party

    hahaha, Kris at the listening party. The last time Alisan said anything about Kris it was to call him boring. I don’t think they’re exactly hanging out.

  551. “But I’d rather hear that opinion from someone who has no personal connection to Adam’ ¦I’d be less likely to take it as OTT reaction if I heard or read it from someone that had no personal or professional ties to him. I have my fingers crossed that Adam’s album ends up being even half as good as the hype about it has been!”

    -When you’re a fan, everything sounds great even if it doesn’t. Both Adam and Kris has OTT fans and OTT reactions. Just keep on flailing on your fave.

  552. Seeing all the tweets coming in from Adam’s LA buddies, I wondered if Kris would be at the listening party

    Sidewalkstory
    hahaha, Kris at the listening party. The last time Alisan said anything about Kris it was to call him boring. I don’t think they’re exactly hanging out.

    Sidewalkstory,
    I tend to agree Kris is probably not there, but IIRC the Alisan/Kris boring thing turned out to be about a different Kris.

  553. No word from Aimee at all. And yet Lee Cherry was in on it. I wonder if the listening party was just for Adam’s close friends. Perhaps the other interested parties will have to go through the formal channels.

  554. Are they all spontaneously combusting in someone’s appartment in LA … I picture this appartment block with all this fire and sequins exploding out of one particular window …. and passers by wondering wtf’s happening

  555. Alisan has probably received more tweets in the past day than she has in the past several weeks Or months.

    I seriously need to flail about this. It’s been so LONG (TfM and Starlight notwithstanding) since we heard new Adam music, and on the finale only one song (not counting the craptastic NoBo), ACIGC. So we are in severe withdrawal…

  556. but IIRC the Alisan/Kris boring thing turned out to be about a different Kris.

    and I have a bridge I want to sell you.

  557. Are they all spontaneously combusting in someone’s appartment in LA ‘ ¦

    I don’t think so as one of the tweets I posted said Alisan was heading to meet Feras.

    Perhaps it was some sort of conference call?

  558. NEW THREAD. I think MJ realized resistance was futile. ;)

    A conference call to hear his album? Hrm….

  559. not because it sucks, but because it isn’t the kind of glamrock pop that Adam has been pushing (so I still am not sure why Strut isn’t the first single).

    How can peeps make this kind of determination without having heard the songs?????

    Hopefully RCA isn’t choosing his single based on the song title, but rather on how the song SOUNDS!!!!!!!!!

  560. Q3, do you think that means there will be two videos shown? One that is Adam’s and one that is 2012’s with Adam’s song?

    I have reread every original press mention and the press release — that all indication two separate parts. Can’t figure out what started all the discussion of it changing — because the TfM audio + 2012 scene video is old and was released before the MV.

  561. That’s the same clip that was released WEEKS AGO.

    My bad, I was looking something from ontd_ai and thinking that was the version we were talking about. But as that post is locked, can’t share stuff from it. My total bad. But for members, they can go over and look at it. I thought that was the version, or I wouldn’t have mentioned it at all. Sowwy.

  562. AndreaH
    October 27, 2009 at 12:44 am
    The name of the Pink song is ‘What Ya Want From Me’ . Pink Floyd has a song called ‘What Do You Want From Me’  which may be part of the confusion. I believe the screen capture by the poster on AO is legitimate because it has the correct title.

    Look under Pink’s songs listed here: (ASCAP search of works performed by Pink) http://tinyurl.com/yjv8urg

    The whole thing is very confusing but ‘What Ya Want From Me’  is the correct title of Pink’s song.

    It isn’t all that confusing. You register a song with ASCAP before you ever perform it. There is no Copyright registration for this song under either title, and all of Pink’s released songs are copyrighted. She never performed the song. She did the recording. the recording was never produced or mastered — it is an unfinished recording. And it was never released.

    And, even if it had been released, so what? Do you actually think that Adam wouldn’t have is own arrangement, production, vocal improvisations, etc. Adam doesn’t do “copies” very well — listen to his version of Believe or Satisfaction, for example.

  563. <