Idol Headlines for 09/20/09

Who will win Emmys and why: All award mysteries finally explained (including why crazy Hollywooders keep voting for schizo roles)

Basically, I think Emmys are going to make like a TV repeat this year and bring back last year’s winners in all top series races: best drama (“Mad Men”), lead drama actor (Bryan Cranston, “Breaking Bad”), lead drama actress (Glenn Close, “Damages”), best comedy (“30 Rock”), lead actor (Alec Baldwin, “30 Rock”), lead actress (Tina Fey, “30 Rock”). Here is my full list of predictions, which you should compare with those of other experts pooled by Gold Derby.

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Believe it or not, such mass repetition has never happened ‘” all of the top champs returning, that is. It may seem like Emmy winners get rubber-stamped all the time and they often do, but not en masse like that.

LA Times

More Idol Headlines after the JUMP…

Emmy winners line-up looking like a repeat

They’re rolling out the red carpet in Los Angeles for television’s prime time Emmy Awards onmadmen Sunday but some experts are already predicting a winner’s line-up in the main categories that looks much the same as last year.

That means that popular favorites like hospital drama ‘House’ , animated comedy ‘Family Guy’  and the ‘Law&Order’  actress Mariska Hargitay could again lose out to shows like ‘Mad Men’ , ‘Damages’  star Glenn Close and the Tina Fey comedy ’30 Rock’ .

Reuters

Emmy intel: Sunday’s show will be ‘Horrible’

Neil-Patrick-Harris_lBut in a good way! Sources confirm to me exclusively that host Neil Patrick Harris will headline a Dr. Horrible-themed production number about midway through Sunday’s ceremony. Score!

If I didn’t know better, I’d say this year’s Emmys are going to be’ ¦ I know it’s been done to death but I just can’t resist’ ¦ this year’s Emmys are going to be’ ¦ this is the last time I’ll ever do this’ ¦ this year’s Emmys are going to be’ ¦ legen ‘” wait for it ‘” dary!

Entertainment Weekly

Quilt to Benefit Rising Star Outreach Inspired By David Archuleta

During the seventh season of American Idol, people across the world came to know and love the beautiful voice and talent of 18 year old vocal artist David Archuleta.

For the past year, Archuleta has traveled across the United States, into Canada, and overseas to Malaysia, Singapore, the UK, and the Philippines sharing his voice and music with his rapidly growing fan base. When not performing on stage, David uses his voice and spirit for another purpose. He works diligently to raise awareness and encourage participation in charities to benefit others. David’s inspirational message and giving spirit, have propelled many into positive action in support of his targeted charities.

News Blaze

Philip Green to throw a 50th birthday party for Simon Cowell at his Palladian mansion

When a billionaire throws a party for a millionaire, the lucky guests might rightly be expecting a night with plenty of X Factor.

And those who turn out for Simon Cowell’s 50th birthday bash will surely not be disappointed.

The multi-millionaire music mogul will celebrate his birthday at a huge party organised by his best friend Sir Philip Green – with the billionaire retail tycoon said to be planning a no-expense-spared occasion ‘fit for a king’ at a Palladian mansion.

Last night, sources close to Sir Philip, who is understood to be worth about £4.9billion, said he had overseen all the details of the spectacular party, which is expected to cost more than £500, 000.

Daily Mail

Reality star Payne dances her way to ‘Fame’

Bubbly and unpretentious, Kherington Payne comes across as exactly the same fresh-faced girl who charmed fans of the reality show “So You Think You Can Dance” with her exhilarating Viennese waltz, spitfire krumping and, of course, the impassioned Mia Michaels number with Stephen “Twitch” Boss known as the “bed routine.”

Growing up in Southern California, Payne took to competition, in the dance studio and on the sports field. A dancer since age 2, Payne got most of her early training at the Dance Precisions studio in Yorba Linda (Orange County), but she was also an avid soccer player in school.

SFGate.com

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501 Comments

  1. Snuffles, thanks for that link.
    That was a great read. It’s harsh but it sounds so realistic. Read it Matt, Anoop, Lil, even Allison, Kris, Adam!
    He gives great advice there. Some idols just seem so sure about all this and then they crash. I think Chris has made the best out of his 5 minutes of fame, he’s a good one to tell you how it works.

  2. Good afternoon everyone;

    snuffles
    September 20, 2009 at 10:28 am
    Chris Sligh from Season 6 has wrote a really good blog of ‘advice’  for Season 8’s Top 10.

    http://frommymindtoyoureyes.blogspot.com/2009/09/to-idols-realistic-look-at-your-career.html

    He reads like a sound guy, sincere in his counsel and eager to help. He’s definitely worth a read, especially, by the three season 8 idols, I believe, would most benefit from his experience – Anoop, Michael and Matt.

    Re. The Emmys:

    House is stellar as usual, and deserves every award it can receives. I am sorry however, that Defying Gravity wont be getting a look in.

  3. The American Idol Finale featuring Kris and Adam is nominated in a new Emmy category, Breakthrough Performance. The other finalist are Gossip Girl and True Blood. The award is for the show not the individuals. You can watch tonight 8pm EST on CBS. The public can vote on this category up until showtime.

    http://www.tv.com/breakthrough/

  4. Hmm…..Sligh keeps mentioning $200K (or so) as the amount Idols have from the tour/as a nest-egg.

    That could be the best clue we’ve had recently about how much an Idol can make on tour (and he was a 10th place finisher and it’s possible Idols are paid on a sliding scale based on songs sung on tour or placement. Probably not a linear scale). BTW $100K that he mentions for Kris/Adam are for corporate type gigs. Kris would have played that concert yesterday for free (and the radio station will pay him back by playing the crap out of his single).

    Crossing my fingers that Ryan wins the Emmy tonight. I love Phil on TAR (which I’m hoping wins for the Reality-Competition), but he doesn’t carry nearly as much weight as Ryan does. And he doesn’t have to cover for Bruce.

  5. Wow, ontd_ai people are almost creepy good with their snooping skills. I still like Ryan Tedder, so i’ll be interested in hearing the song he wrote for Adam.

    ETA: Studio57, I thought the same thing, but he has also said that there would be Mad World type songs, and you can’t get more depressing than that.

  6. A song called Biggest Regret, though? Didn’t he say no bummer songs on his album?

  7. A song called Biggest Regret, though? Didn’t he say no bummer songs on his album?

    In the thread, they said he has mentioned a few bummer songs that might be considered.

  8. Adam did say that there would be at least one ballad on his album, I think he said something like it would be about vulnerability. So maybe, I just know I want at least one ballad!

  9. Studio57
    September 20, 2009 at 11:07 am
    A song called Biggest Regret, though? Didn’t he say no bummer songs on his album?

    Yes, he did say that. Based on that, I’m now very curious to hear this.

  10. Biggest Regret, Time For Miracles, and Strut.

    I is not happy.

    Sounds like a Kara D crapmusic fest.

    Dear Adam,

    Remember those song titles you like? Like Supermassive Black Hole, Sex On Fire, and The Uprising? Yeah? Well, those are the OPPOSITE of your song titles.

    Thank You,
    Studio 57

  11. Well.. I don’t think he cannot do anything about Time for Miracles, since the song was picked already for the movie. Hopefully for the rest of the album he would still gets what he wants, Confidence booster – be yourself – Let it all hang out message.

  12. Remember those song titles you like? Like Supermassive Black Hole, Sex On Fire, and The Uprising? Yeah? Well, those are the OPPOSITE of your song titles.

    Aww, I am not going to be too hard on song titles which have no context besides a name as most titles out of context aren’t necessarily amazing. I think “Sex on Fire” could sound silly if it wasn’t a good song.

  13. IMO, without context many song titles can sound lame or stupid. I’m going to reserve judgment until I actually hear something.

  14. Uprising snippets are playing at the beginning of the Patriots game.

    Also DSB seems to be EVERYWHERE.

  15. I hope Jim Parsons wins the Emmy, he’s really funny (Not gonna happen, I know). Also, maybe that’s the year they will finally give it to Hugh Laurie (I know, I know, not gonna happen either)

  16. Actually, I really like Strut for a song title. Think about Vogue, Kiss, etc. – strong one-word statements.

    Time for Miracles & Biggest Regret a little meh but the songs may turn out to be great. Can’t wait.

  17. MO, without context many song titles can sound lame or stupid. I’m going to reserve judgment until I actually hear something.

    Ditto. No need worrying until the full songs surface.

  18. I’m not reading too much into song titles until I’ve actually heard the song as Bowie’s “Sorrow” is one of my favourites of his … and Leona’s “Happy” isn’t exactly that .. it’s totally miserable.

  19. Hey everybody!

    Today (Sept. 20th) is the last day for Adam Lambert’s fan group charity drive competition.

    He just hit $184,300 in donations from fan groups. Please donate a dollar or ten or ????

    Remember it helps public schools in the U.S. and is a very worthy cause.

    You don’t have to be an Adam fan to donate and you don’t have to be a member of a particular fan group.

    I have seen some donations by Kris fans too, in the comments section. Just mention him if you are donating in his honor. Or, anyone else whose honor you’d like to donate in.

    You can even donate anonymously! And you don’t have to help a fan group, there’s a general group for donations,too! It’s on the same page.

    The last day!

    http://www.donorschoose.org/adam-lambert

    So far – with these donations – and the $32,000 donated by Adam fans to MusiCares – Adam Lambert is responsible for over $200,000 donated to charities just in the past few weeks.

    http://www.donorschoose.org/adam-lambert

    Ms. MJ, please don’t pull my post. :-0

    This isn’t for me, or Adam. It’s for Donors Choose’s big chance to help rural and inner city, poverty stricken schools obtain supplies.
    And, via Adam Lambert – they are making a difference.

    So far, over 71,000 school children will be affected by the donations received so far!!

    Thank you, Starshine

  20. AimeeMayoClearing Something Up- Weve written more than one song with Ryan Tedder. Rascal Flatts cut “Biggest Regret” I heard Colbie C is on it bgv’s
    10 minutes ago from web

  21. It ´s impossible to live in this state of anguish. Strut, Biggest Regret… what else? I need to know, I need to listen, I want to buy.

  22. wonder if Allison is back?

    TeresaLWhites
    Hello U.S.!
    16 minutes ago from Echofon

    Goodbye beautiful Sweden!
    about 11 hours ago from Echofon

    stuffing 75 lbs of Swedish chocolate inside the new boots I bought so I’ll have room in my suitcase for both!
    about 20 hours ago from web

    haveing too much fun with @Allison4Realzzz being obnoxious Americans in quiet Sweden
    about 21 hours ago from web

    at lunch today, the Swedish diner had chicken salad, tuna salad and reindeer salad…me and Allison said told them that’s just wrong!
    11:21 AM Sep 19th from web

    Allison in the studio!
    8:26 AM Sep 18th from Echofon

  23. AimeeMayoClearing Something Up- Weve written more than one song with Ryan Tedder. Rascal Flatts cut ‘Biggest Regret’  I heard Colbie C is on it bgv’s
    10 minutes ago from web

    LOL…Aimee must follow the AI blogs….

    So biggest regret – Rascall Flatts.

    That’s about as far away from Adam as you can get, I guess.

  24. Is Kris going to be at Emmy tonight?

    Doubt that very much. He will be in premiering his new single in NYC early tomorrow morning, and is said to be appearing in person at the radio station (Z100?). I’m hoping we will learn something on the album. Like WHO is producing for example.

  25. Is Kris going to be at Emmy tonight?

    Don’t know about this. Is it common for Idols to get an invitation to Emmy Awards? Maybe Jennifer Hudson, she’s in a movie and won an Oscar

  26. Thanks for the interview. He said boston-LA-NY-London. So he’s in LA today? Why do it if he can record in NY or Boston? Is Emmy at LA? I am assuming he’s taking the private jet for American Idol. I remember they mention that plane on the show when Carrie won.

  27. Is Kris going to be at Emmy tonight?

    Doubt that very much. He will be in premiering his new single in NYC early tomorrow morning,

    Weird coincedence this interview was posted just as lulwut asked about the Emmy’s – look at what Kris says!

    “Detroit, Boston, LA, then back to NY!”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw_4oUPRgno&feature=related

    So maybe the Emmy’s????

  28. What is this “Breakthrough Performance” Emmy category, is that something new this year? I’ve never heard of a popular-vote award at the Emmys before, and it seems like a really lame idea. What’s next, a “people’s choice” Oscar?

  29. Sveta – you can always google “things to see or places to visit in San Francesco” it will give you a lot of suggestions.

  30. Re. The Emmys:

    House is stellar as usual, and deserves every award it can receives. I am sorry however, that Defying Gravity wont be getting a look in.

    Sunn, Defying Gravity premiered on ABC just last month, so it wasn’t eligible for an Emmy this year. Maybe next year.

  31. Thank you Adamme, I did this and read in Wikipedia, but I just wanted to expand the information, you know. Most websites for theaters don’t update their information, and they are really sketchy about their shows. I will definitely do my research more.

  32. The Emmy’s are in LA. Maybe they will have Kris and Adam present an award together (Kradam again) and/or maybe AI actually won the award they were nominated for. Who knows but it seems kind of stupid to fly from Boston to LA then back to NYC for nothing when tomorrow is such a big day for Kris and he will have to get an early start. He will probably follow-up the debut with interviews since Jim Cantiello mentioned somewhere that he will have a new Kris interivew.

  33. Jordin Sparks seems to be the new queen of National Anthems at football games . last week she performed it though non televised at her hometown stadium in Arizona for the Cardinals and 49’s .

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xELxx8dTY2s&feature=PlayList&p=A59781D6022A7045

    tonight at 8pm eastern time 7pm central Jordin will supposedly perform it live on NBC in the new Dallas Cowboys stadium when they play the NY Giants . interestingly Jordin’s father played for both teams .

    http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=2873093&blogID=510747279
    http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=2873093&blogID=510747279

    September 18, 2009 – Friday

    JORDIN PERFORMS NATIONAL ANTHEM THIS SUNDAY ON NBC!!
    TUNE-IN to NBC this Sunday, September 20th at 7pm (CST) to watch Jordin perform the National Anthem in Dallas at the Dallas vs. New York Giants football game!

    Who do you think is going to win??

    http://gryphononcowboys.blogspot.com/2009/09/fwst-blog-jordin-sparks-to-sing.html

    Friday, September 18, 2009
    FWST Blog: Jordin Sparks to sing national anthem at inaugural game at Cowboys Stadium
    By Clarence E. Hill Jr.

    Jordin Sparks will sing the national anthem Sunday for the inaugural game at the new Cowboys Stadium.

    Sparks won the sixth season of American Idol and is the daughter for former
    Cowboys player Phillipi Sparks.

    posted by The Gryphon at 7:37 PM

    new Jordin song called Road To Paradise from the upcoming soundtrack of Tinker Bell and the Lost Treasure being released this Tuesday the 22nd.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGqmfpetnjY

    Jordin is certainly a busy girl.

  34. Maybe Kris’ going to present, but he’s unlikely to win the category because the glamberts are voting for the competitors.

  35. Maybe Adam or Kris wil tweet about Emmys. I know it would be asking to much of 19/Jive to actually give any information about their appearances.

  36. I’m confused about the Emmy’s, I didn’t think this was an individual award for Kris or Adam.

  37. There isn’t an individual award for Kris or Adam. The finale is nominated and Ryan Seacrest. In prior emmy awards show, entire casts are their even if the indiviiduals are not nominated. Since the moment that is nominated is about Kris’ upset win over Adam, it would make sense that they could be there.

  38. AI is nominated for a couple of other categories this year. Maybe Kris and Adam will be there just because. Kris being in LA today makes me think maybe he/they might be.

    Alas, the Cowboys are playing at the same time as the Emmy’s …. if anything leaks out about Adam/Kris being there, I hope it gets posted so I can channel flip.

  39. Personally, I think the name Strut is an awesome name. JMO of course.

    I hope Jim Parsons wins the Emmy, he’s really funny (Not gonna happen, I know).

    Oh me too, big bang theory is a guilty pleasure of mine. (sorry OT)

  40. The finale is nominated and Ryan Seacrest. In prior emmy awards show, entire casts are their even if the indiviiduals are not nominated. Since the moment that is nominated is about Kris’ upset win over Adam, it would make sense that they could be there.

    Gotcha, the comments had me a bit confuzzled.

  41. Since the moment that is nominated is about Kris’ upset win over Adam, it would make sense that they could be there.

    That’s what I’m thinking – not so much that they themselves will win one, but if their moment wins the breakthrough moment award that was posted online for viewers to vote on, it would make sense for them to just put in an appearance. See tripp_ncwy’s post upstream.

  42. I hadn’t planned on watching the Emmys, but I would hate to miss Adam or Kris on the red carpet. May have to waste more time watching the red carpet show that comes on before the Emmys.

    Like posted before, I love House and Hugh Laurie, but they never win.

  43. Dear Adam,

    Remember those song titles you like? Like Supermassive Black Hole, Sex On Fire, and The Uprising? Yeah? Well, those are the OPPOSITE of your song titles.

    Thank You,
    Studio 57

    I think we need to remember that Adam probably doesn’t have as much control as to what goes on this CD as he would like to have.

  44. Thinking out loud here, why would it be a big secret? Would Kris not have said something like “I have to be in LA for the Emmy’s?”

  45. I love House and Hugh Laurie, but they never win.

    I love House and Hugh Laurie too. Didn’t they win the award before? They’re getting weird now.

  46. readon
    September 20, 2009 at 2:55 pm
    There isn’t an individual award for Kris or Adam. The finale is nominated and Ryan Seacrest. In prior emmy awards show, entire casts are their even if the indiviiduals are not nominated. Since the moment that is nominated is about Kris’ upset win over Adam, it would make sense that they could be there.

    It’s not a real Emmy the finale is nominated for though, is it?? I thought it was one of those fan-voted ones that appear in the commercials during the Emmy telecast, I mean it’s sponsored by Vaseline.

  47. Adamme
    September 20, 2009 at 3:06 pm
    I love House and Hugh Laurie, but they never win.

    I love House and Hugh Laurie too. Didn’t they win the award before? They’re getting weird now.

    I don’t think Hugh Laurie has ever won in his category.
    I think the show’s finally getting interesting again.Although I loved the Amber death arc.

  48. I mean it’s sponsored by Vaseline.

    We’d better not even go there! Hee! ;-)

  49. We’d better not even go there! Hee! ;-)

    My thoughts exactly. Hmmm. What does this say about us?

  50. I used to watch house but then one episode scared me so bad I don’t think I slept properly for at least a month. And I kept getting so freaked out that I’d hurl. But lately I sorta want to watch it again. *massochist*
    There seems to be almost no news today other than the Emmy’s. I hope that Adam and Kris do walk the red carpet if they come, it’ll give us something to discuss round here. *selfish*

  51. My thoughts exactly. Hmmm. What does this say about us?

    Umm… that we went there?? ;-)

  52. It’s not a real Emmy the finale is nominated for though, is it?? I thought it was one of those fan-voted ones that appear in the commercials during the Emmy telecast, I mean it’s sponsored by Vaseline.

    This made me laugh :-)

  53. But we pulled back from the brink Anthrogeek. We pulled back. And I’m proud of us. We exhibited humor (or something like it) and decorum.

  54. But we pulled back from the brink Anthrogeek. We pulled back. And I’m proud of us. We exhibited humor (or something like it) and decorum.

    I lost my internet connection for a few and came back to the Vaseline moment. Pulling back

    It’s not a real Emmy the finale is nominated for though, is it??

    I thought it was. I will have to check.

  55. Decorum.. hmmm not sure what that is.. :-) but Vaseline has many many uses.. such as…. removing makeup…ummmm…yeah removing makeup.

    Not sure about the RED Carpet thing and unless they are going to sing.. not really into watching.

  56. Hmm’ ¦..Sligh keeps mentioning $200K (or so) as the amount Idols have from the tour/as a nest-egg.

    Aren’t they required to keep the financial stuff from the show confidential? If so, I’m guessing, (I do that a lot here — I don’t seem to ever really KNOW anything), that Chris is just throwing a number out there, and it’s not necessarily an accurate number.

  57. NewFan
    September 20, 2009 at 3:24 pm
    But we pulled back from the brink Anthrogeek. We pulled back. And I’m proud of us. We exhibited humor (or something like it) and decorum.

    Yes, we did, and I’m proud of us, NewFan. But spinastory does make a good point… and we all know someone who has much makeup to remove….. BUT, we shall continue our tradition and pull out… I mean, back.

  58. Long post coming. All of the AI nominations.

    -Outstanding Art Direction For Variety, Music Or Nonfiction Programming
    American Idol – Episode 821 – FOX – FremantleMedia N.A., Inc. & 19TV Ltd.
    Andy Walmsley, Production Designer
    James Yarnell, Art Director

    -Outstanding Directing For A Variety, Music Or comedy Series
    American Idol – Show 833 (The Final Three) – FOX – FremantleMedia N.A., Inc. & 19TV Ltd.
    Bruce Gowers, Director

    -Outstanding Host For A Reality Or Reality-Competition Program
    American Idol – FOX – FremantleMedia N.A., Inc. & 19TV Ltd.
    Ryan Seacrest, Host

    -Outstanding Lighting Direction (Electronic, Multi-Camera) For Variety, Music Or Comedy Programming
    American Idol – Finale – FOX – FremantleMedia N.A., Inc. & 19TV Ltd.
    Kieran Healy, Lighting Designer
    Joshua Hutchings, Lighting Director
    George Harvey, Lighting Director

    -Outstanding Reality – Competition Program
    American Idol – FOX – FremantleMedia N.A., Inc. & 19TV Ltd.
    Ken Warwick, Executive Producer
    Cecile Frot-Coutaz, Executive Producer
    Simon Fuller, Executive Producer
    Charles Boyd, Co-Executive Producer
    Patrick M. Lynn, Supervising Producer
    Megan Michaels, Supervising Producer

    -Outstanding Sound Mixing For Nonfiction Programming
    American Idol – 801/02 – FOX – FremantleMedia N.A., Inc. & 19TV Ltd.
    Brian Riordan, Re-Recording Mixer
    Adrian Ordonez, Re-Recording Mixer

    -Outstanding Sound Mixing For A Variety Or Music Series Or Special
    American Idol – Finale – FOX – FremantleMedia N.A., Inc. & 19TV Ltd.
    Ed Greene, Production Mixer
    Randy Faustino, Music Mixer
    Andrew Fletcher, PA Mixer
    Mike Parker, Monitor Mixer
    Gary Long, Playback Music Mixer
    Brian Riordan, Pre-Production Packages Mixer
    Adrian Ordonez, Pre-Production Packages Mixer
    Christian Schrader, Audience Sweetener

    -Outstanding Technical Direction, Camerawork, Video Control For A Series
    American Idol – Episode 834A – FOX – FremantleMedia N.A., Inc. & 19TV Ltd.
    Shiran Stotland, Technical Director
    Rick Edwards, Technical Director
    Bill Chaikowski, Camera
    Greg Smith, Camera
    John Repczynski, Camera
    George Prince, Camera
    Danny Bonilla, Camera
    Alex Hernandez, Camera
    Dave Eastwood, Camera
    Bobby Highton, Camera
    Ken Patterson, Camera
    Ken Dahlquist, Camera
    Diane Biederbeck, Camera
    Danny Webb, Camera
    Dave Plakos, Camera
    Steve Thiel, Camera
    Mike Tribble, Camera
    Chris Gray, Video Control

  59. WOW blue

    Not sure about the RED Carpet thing and unless they are going to sing.. not really into watching.

    Ah true dat. Ah well.
    In other words this font looks awesome, all typewriteresque

  60. LOL anthrogeek :-O

    I am listening to the new downloaded version of Adam’s Ford performance… Sigh so beautiful… loving me some starlight

  61. snuffles: Chris Sligh from Season 6 has wrote a really good blog of ‘advice’  for Season 8’s Top 10.

    Just finished reading Chris’ entry, entitled “To the Idols: A Realistic Look at Your Career Prospects” (click here).

    Wow. This should really be required reading. Not just for the Idols (although it specifically pertains to them), but to anyone trying to realistically make it in the music biz. For those of you who aren’t familiar with Chris (and honestly, I pretty much just know his name), he came in 10th during Season 6 and has a modicum of success with his own music, and probably more success selling his songs to other artists (Rascal Flatts “Here Comes Goodbye”).

    A few quotes – but I acutally suggest reading the whole entry – its worth it.

    If history repeats itself the majority of these Idols will do nothing in music and will be washes within 3 or 4 years. Not trying to be mean, just being real.

    [Post-season Idol contestants have] an unrealistic view of what Idol can and will do for them.

    Idol does not break new artists. It is a marketing machine for 19E to break their artists. They don’t care about the ones who get away unless they make really really good (i.e., Jennifer Hudson and…well, that’s it). It may sound cold, but the point of this is to rattle your brain and make you realize what is about to happen in your life.

    Its rather depressing to have someone in the trenches flat out state that merchandise investment will pay back more than money spent on, say, instrumentalists. It also says something even more depressing on how cheap an instrumentalist will/should go for on a per gig basis.

    That said, by working his tail off, Chris has managed to make a living in music. He’s really honest in this blog entry about what it takes, so I won’t go into detail. I’ll just add one last quote before encouraging you to read it yourselves:

    ….Your days of being a star are over. But that’s all right – so are mine. And I’m one of the most successful for my season of Idol. I’m not a star. Chances are I never again will be. But here’s what’s awesome. I’m not a star. Few people know my name anymore. But I get to do music for a living. And I make a healthy living doing it….So…there is hope.

    Go read.

    ETA: This is what I get for reading a headlines thread without first refreshing the overall mjbigblog site to notice that a specialized thread had already been set up hours ago!! Nevermind. Don’t bother telling me anything here. Just go to the other thread!!

  62. Yay. Astrogeek :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    (but KY is so much better for removing makeup … or astro-glide for space aliens in motion)

    Oooops. Are we gonna get banned for this? I like it here. There are some very funny people here. LOL’s that make my day.

    … and I just learned how to do manual smilies …

  63. Yeah I guess makeup removal is off topic. sooooo hey can I go to Simon’s birthday party?.. WOOOHOOO sounds fun!

  64. Simon said he wanted a party at home for his family and close friends in the industry
    sent invitations to 400 guests

    WOW thats alot of family and close friends!

  65. Yeah I guess makeup removal is off topic. sooooo hey can I go to Simon’s birthday party?.. WOOOHOOO sounds fun!

    So who’s from the idol that would be invited to his birthday party? Paula? Randy? Ryan for sure and Simon’s X-Factor singers, Leona etc. Il-Divo? Fuller definitely.

  66. Umm, yeah… so, about that Kherrington Payne… I hate when they promote movies so far in advance that by the time the damn thing actually appears in theaters you’re tired of hearing about it and assumed it already came, tanked, and went. Fame doesn’t even open till Friday and I’m tired of it already.

  67. I just saw this Tweet from Cook. I don’t think his golfing has improved. LOL.

    may have just hit a house. :/ if they come out screaming… monty did it

  68. Is Kris’ single release going to be nationwide or just the one NY radio station? I wonder if I’ll hear it on the drive in tomorrow.

  69. In prior emmy awards show, entire casts are their even if the indiviiduals are not nominated. Since the moment that is nominated is about Kris’ upset win over Adam, it would make sense that they could be there.

    Idols have never attended the Emmys in the past, even when the finale was nominated. I would be surprised to find them there. But, you never know, I guess.

  70. Idols have never attended the Emmys in the past, even when the finale was nominated. I would be surprised to find them there. But, you never know, I guess.

    This is what I wanted to know – thank you mj.

  71. Idols have never attended the Emmys in the past, even when the finale was nominated. I would be surprised to find them there. But, you never know, I guess.

    Thanks MJ. Also thanks for taking care of the troll post.

  72. I’m not going to be around for the emmy’s tonight. I’ll be at the SYTYCD concert in Manchester.

    I’ll leave a post and update it later…

  73. re the Emmys – Go House! Go Big Bang Theory!
    and David Cook has a concert at 6:30 at Newport beach, after his golf, so I’m betting he won’t be there.

  74. Thanks mj for posting the article on ‘Rising Star Outreach’ and David’s involvement.

    Speaking of RSO, they have done several projects and his fans made a video related to dental work (Forgive me if it’s already posted before.) It’s quite moving and David co-wrote this song. You can tell his voice has changed since the recording of the song.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILEwfkFTlQ4

  75. A co-worker was asking about the AI Tour and how Adam was doing. I sent her “Bad Influence”. I haven’t heard from her since. I guess I will have to check up on her. Maybe, I should have just sent one of the performances.

  76. A co-worker was asking about the AI Tour and how Adam was doing. I sent her ‘Bad Influence’ . I haven’t heard from her since. I guess I will have to check up on her. Maybe, I should have just sent one of the performances.

    Uh huh. Even for some of us who watched the entire tour, that Bad Influence montage was a bit much.

  77. just saw this Tweet from Cook. I don’t think his golfing has improved. LOL.

    may have just hit a house. :/ if they come out screaming’ ¦ monty did it

    Even better was his follow-up tweet:

    while golfing, people. lord. i didnt hit it with a car or punch it with my fist or anything.

    Wonder what kind of tweets he was getting, lol. Fans… gotta love em.

  78. DC definitely won’t be there at the Emmy’s because he tweeted this early this morning:

    @thedavidcook big day. taste of newport rock show. golf with @montyanderson. chiefs beating raiders. woo. hoo.

    And about that golf thing LOL After he posted that everyone was like “WHAT? You hit a HOUSE? OMG what!?”? So he tweets a few minutes later after with this:

    @thedavidcook while golfing, people. lord. i didnt hit it with a car or punch it with my fist or anything.

    and

    @thedavidcook got out unscathed. monty won handily.

    Then there was this gem from last night

    @thedavidcook http://twitpic.com/ieoi8 – This person loves pee and yoga, apparently. ~D

    Can’t stop.laughing. He never stops entertaining me.

  79. Well, whattaya know. Apparently Ricky Minor wrote a book and is going to be speaking and signing at the National Book Festival on the National Mall in Washington D.C. next Saturday, September 26.

    His presentation is a part of the History and Biography Pavilion at 11:45 to 12:15 and his book signing is from 3:30 to 4:30. If you can’t be there, I think there is a podcast for each speaker and they do show some of them on C-SPAN’s book TV program.

    Here’s the link to the announcement of his appearance:
    http://www.loc.gov/bookfest/2009/authors/Minor.html

    And here’s what it says:

    Rickey Minor is the Emmy-nominated music director of television’s No. 1-rated show, ‘American Idol.’  His rsum also includes the Grammys and the Super Bowl, and he has collaborated with major recording artists Whitney Houston, Christina Aguilera, Alicia Keys, Ray Charles, Beyonc Knowles and many more. The ultimate ‘American Idol’  insider reveals what it takes to achieve your dreams, recalling his journey from South Central Los Angeles to center stage in There’s No Traffic on the Extra Mile, Minor’s 2008 memoir. He lives in California.

    Here is a link to the Festival itself:
    http://www.loc.gov/bookfest/

  80. clearone: Uh huh. Even for some of us who watched the entire tour, that Bad Influence montage was a bit much.

    Maybe for you clearone…but its seen a LOT of replay action here!!! :grin:

  81. clearone: I think we need to remember that Adam probably doesn’t have as much control as to what goes on this CD as he would like to have.

    We do not know what Adam’s RCA and 19 Recordings contracts require but it is doubtful that he has any creative control. If that is the case, the only thing that Adam can do is build trust and credibility with the label executives, so they will respect him.

    The label executives get the final say what goes on the album, the label picks the single(s), and the label/19 decide on the release schedule. And if RCA wants Adam to record a particular track for his album, my bet is that he is required to record it. But if the front office believes in an artist and their material, they sometimes actually listen to them, and let them have some influence on the album.

    Based on what other past Idols have said, I am starting to believe that RCA/19R will give a singer as much artistic freedom as they can handle.

    David Cook 8/4/08: “But in every meeting that I’ve had with 19 [Management] and RCA [Records], they’ve been very supportive of what I want to do with my record.’ 

    My bet is that Adam has earned some respect from RCA’s front office and might be able to convert that into getting a bit of influence on what gets on his album:

    1. Adam has leveraged the support of RCA/19, his fame from Idol and his talent, to gather some of the best collaborators to work. There are rumors that at least some of the initial recordings are good — maybe even amazing.

    2. He has handled his PR like a pro: The initial bits of good press for his album are the most important — being RS #1 feature for their Fall 2009 album preview and getting his photo on their homepage, Brian Mansfield’s #1 pick for Fall, and so on.

    3. He’s in demand: The 2012 project which was offered to him by the movie producers, not put together by Sony as an album promo deal.

    4. My bet is that Adam is good in meeting and that the people at RCA and 19 Recordings like to work with him. Adam seems to understand how to collaborate, what is needed for commercial success, and be willing to make some concessions.

    5. RCA is giving him 4 weeks in the studio to record the rest of his album — an album that Adam says is half done. That is a lot of studio time for someone who didn’t even win Idol.

  82. I would be surprised to see Kris or Adam at the Emmys. Kris has to be in NYC early tomorrow morning for the debut of his single, so I’m assuming he simply headed straight to NYC after his Boston gig yesterday. Adam, of course, is in town, so he could attend, I suppose. But it still seems unlikely he’d be there. It’s not like the award for the “breakthrough moment” goes to the performers — it would go to the producers…wouldn’t it? I’m pretty sure this fan-voted on award is for the show, not for any individual.

  83. Q3

    Four weeks is a lot of studio time? Really? I’ve read about bands taking months, if not years, to record albums. Four weeks doesn’t seem like a whole heck of a lot of time to me. But I’m not in the music business, so maybe that is a lot of time.

  84. Maybe for you clearone’ ¦but its seen a LOT of replay action here!!!

    Oh I have no doubt it has! :) I’m just saying that for someone who didn’t watch Adam all summer it might have been too drastic a change from AI Adam to tour Adam.

  85. Four weeks is a lot of studio time? Really? I’ve read about bands taking months, if not years, to record albums. Four weeks doesn’t seem like a whole heck of a lot of time to me. But I’m not in the music business, so maybe that is a lot of time.

    My guess is they don’t book a recording studio for all that time. Costly.

  86. Q3: 5. RCA is giving him 4 weeks in the studio to record the rest of his album ‘” an album that Adam says is half done. That is a lot of studio time for someone who didn’t even win Idol.

    Someone please enlighten me. What are some broad parameters for a “lot” versus a “little” studio time?

    In that vein, how long have some “epic” albums taken in terms of studio time? For example, [thinking off top of head] how long did a great album like Metallica’s black album take? That was, in my book, a pretty epic album.

  87. Oh I have no doubt it has! I’m just saying that for someone who didn’t watch Adam all summer it might have been too drastic a change from AI Adam to tour Adam.

    clearone, maybe 3:10 to 3:18 in this video will help ease the transition for your friend:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7FGPTDMV38

  88. Oh I have no doubt it has! I’m just saying that for someone who didn’t watch Adam all summer it might have been too drastic a change from AI Adam to tour Adam.

    That is one my concerns. The Adam that many will see as he releases his single and album will be much different than what they saw on AI. We’ve watched the entire tour and have had a chance to see him evolve, but most people are still dealing with the lifestyle thing. Many are making jokes about and expecting a very stereotypical gay individual. Also, the theatrical thing is still out there. Just Friday, another co-worker who watched AI said he probably shouldn’t look to a music career, but should pursue Broadway.

    His music better be good. He still has a lot of barriers to break.

  89. I’m going to record the emmys probably. There might be a 50-50 chance that Adam might be in attendance. With NPH hosting it increases the chances a bit….perhaps NPH could wrangle him a ticket. Both are Upright Cabaret allums and NPH is involved in Idol.

    By the way, in regards to the discussion on who Adam should bring to the red carpet…I forgot something very important, sometimes the celebs only get one ticket and that is why they go alone. It’s not like there is unlimited seating, and it’s more important to fill the audience with stars, etc. then guests.

  90. Oh I have no doubt it has! I’m just saying that for someone who didn’t watch Adam all summer it might have been too drastic a change from AI Adam to tour Adam.

    clearone, maybe 3:10 to 3:18 in this video will help ease the transition for your friend:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7FGPTDMV38

    It was my friend and co-worker. I don’t know if it will help her, but I like.

    Adam’s a sexy guy, he just didn’t show a lot of it during AI. I hope that the world finds it a pleasant suprise.

  91. sometimes the celebs only get one ticket and that is why they go alone. It’s not like there is unlimited seating, and it’s more important to fill the audience with stars, etc. then guests.

    Yep, and also, they sometimes deliberately do not bring a spouse or date because they consider it a work event, not a social event, and for the single ones (regardless of sexual orientation), they may end up getting more attention for who they brought than for the appearance itself. If it were me (in my dreams!), I’d prefer to keep my personal life separate and go alone or just with my publicist… but nobody asked me!

  92. hi everyone!!!! I’m back.I’ll read through the thread but first I want to tell u I walked past our local movie theatger.and there was a HUGE sign for 2012.I’m not kidimg it was BIG.like 6 ft across and really high and 2 sided.it’s gr8!!! I don’t think it will influence anyone’s opinion to watch the movie but it’s still GREAT news fir Adam.it was the biggest sign there bigger than new moon:D

    brb reading the thread….

  93. It was my friend and co-worker. I don’t know if it will help her, but I like.

    Oops, you’re right, readon, just went back and saw you wrote this, not clearone. Although…. she seems to be suddenly MIA…. heh.

  94. Oops, you’re right, readon, just went back and saw you wrote this, not clearone. Although’ ¦. she seems to be suddenly MIA’ ¦. heh.

    The buzzer went on the dryer! :) I’m almost afraid to look at 3:10 to 3:18 ……….

  95. Seriously, fellow tongue-waggers (wait…that came out…oddly), I really *DO* want to know what is considered “a lot” versus “a little” studio time!

  96. clearone: The buzzer went on the dryer! I’m almost afraid to look at 3:10 to 3:18 ‘ ¦’ ¦’ ¦.

    Wait! Someone was trying to get stuff accomplished in RL while here at mj’s?? BLASPHEMY!!!! :grin:

  97. Wait! Someone was trying to get stuff accomplished in RL while here at mj’s?? BLASPHEMY!!!!

    To quote the great 21st century existentialist philosopher, Kris P. Allen, “I know, right?”.

    I say after wearing the same pair of underpants for the last 2.5 months, what’s another couple of days?? ;-)

  98. I think kris and adam at the Emmy’s is just wishful thinking.0 chance that’s going to happen.were just considering them because of the idol bubble and yknow their all we talk about.I don’t think the rest of the world gives a damn about them at the Emmys.jmo

  99. Oh I have no doubt it has! I’m just saying that for someone who didn’t watch Adam all summer it might have been too drastic a change from AI Adam to tour Adam.

    That is one my concerns. The Adam that many will see as he releases his single and album will be much different than what they saw on AI. We’ve watched the entire tour and have had a chance to see him evolve, but most people are still dealing with the lifestyle thing.

    I’m a bit worried too, but then I remember that Adam is a pretty savvy guy. I think about the GMA and the Ford event. Both events, Adam was very conscious of his audience and their exposure to him. He knew it wasn’t a concert crowd and adjusted his performances for that.

    In his talk show appearances after the finale, he was definitely aware of his audience. For those that watched the show, Adam showed so many different sides to himself, including the wild (Born to be Wild) and fun (Play that Funky Music) and people seemed to enjoy it. I think his wildest moves will still be in concert and I think even if he is a bit out there in some of his guest appearances at shows, his transition into the sweet, charming personality he has may temper some of the shock. At least I hope so :)

  100. Lmao anthrogeek :)!!!!!!

    I changed my avatar.did of work?what do you think…….:)

  101. Both events, Adam was very conscious of his audience and their exposure to him.

    Yeah, I agree, and he’s definitely smart enough to know to ease into his post-Idol self, and that there’s a time and place for everything. Having the presumably more conservative (visually if not vocally) 2012 song come out at about the same time as the album will go a long way in that initial public perception, and I’m really looking forward to a lot of “told-you-so” for the skeptics!

  102. Ita cindy m………..

    should i change my avatar again!!!??? Hmmmmmmmm

  103. In his talk show appearances after the finale, he was definitely aware of his audience. For those that watched the show, Adam showed so many different sides to himself, including the wild (Born to be Wild) and fun (Play that Funky Music) and people seemed to enjoy it. I think his wildest moves will still be in concert and I think even if he is a bit out there in some of his guest appearances at shows, his transition into the sweet, charming personality he has may temper some of the shock. At least I hope so

    That’s always been Adam’s ace in the hole, so to speak. He gives off this wild child vibe while performing– but invariably in interviews he is sweet, polite, funny and utterly charming. I think people love the dichotomy and are attracted to it.

    Plus– people will fall in love with his voice when his songs get radio play. I know this. Just know it.

  104. sometimes the celebs only get one ticket and that is why they go alone. It’s not like there is unlimited seating, and it’s more important to fill the audience with stars, etc. then guests.

    Yep, and also, they sometimes deliberately do not bring a spouse or date because they consider it a work event, not a social event, and for the single ones (regardless of sexual orientation), they may end up getting more attention for who they brought than for the appearance itself. If it were me (in my dreams!), I’d prefer to keep my personal life separate and go alone or just with my publicist’ ¦ but nobody asked me!

    I asked you Anthro :). But I agree with you, when it’s time for Adam to attend this kind of event, it would be nice if he’d bring his mom / dad or publicist, or his brother, Neil and keep his personal life separarate.

  105. To quote the great 21st century existentialist philosopher, Kris P. Allen, ‘I know, right?’ 

    I knew that boy was brilliant in more than one way.

    I say after wearing the same pair of underpants for the last 2.5 months, what’s another couple of days?? ;-)

    No comment.
    Are we all glad that these are virtual meetings?

  106. I say after wearing the same pair of underpants for the last 2.5 months, what’s another couple of days?

    I know but they’re starting to complain at the office…..

  107. HoppersSkippersMiners: Wait! Someone was trying to get stuff accomplished in RL while here at mj’s?? BLASPHEMY!!!!

    anthrogeek: I say after wearing the same pair of underpants for the last 2.5 months, what’s another couple of days??

    [snerk] I’d snerk more except my laptop is acting like a POS today, and by the time I snerk’ed properly, another month will have gone by… and to what state undies THEN?!! :mrgreen:

    (BTW, can sir Kris at least get a DIFFERENT plaid shirt with his winnings??!! I’m starting to see that red and blue one more than Adam’s ever present, grey-patterned monstrosity T)

  108. when it’s time for Adam to attend this kind of event, it would be nice if he’d bring his mom / dad or publicist, or his brother, Neil and keep his personal life separarate.

    Let’s face it, we just have an aversion to tank tops.

    Oh and Hoppers?
    Which grey monstrosity?

    Actually, if you could see me, I wouldn’t dare to make fashion related comments.

  109. clearone
    September 20, 2009 at 5:32 pm
    I say after wearing the same pair of underpants for the last 2.5 months, what’s another couple of days?

    I know but they’re starting to complain at the office’ ¦..

    Et tu, clearone?

    btw– did anyone answer Hopper’s question about lots or little studio time? I wanted to know, too.

  110. btw’“ did anyone answer Hopper’s question about lots or little studio time? I wanted to know, too.

    Nope, not yet. I’d answer, but I’d have to make sumthin’ up…

  111. anthrogeek
    September 20, 2009 at 5:40 pm
    btw’“ did anyone answer Hopper’s question about lots or little studio time? I wanted to know, too.

    Nope, not yet. I’d answer, but I’d have to make sumthin’ up’ ¦

    And i would believe every word you say…

  112. Hey folks;

    I just watched the Nicholas Cage film “Knowing”, a film about the end of the earth, and ofcourse it reminded me of Adam. So, I though I’d come here and check out the latest happenings.

    What’s going on folks?? Anything new?

  113. Resist the call Readon. We know you can do it.
    Well, unless you need to wash your underwear or something like that….

  114. Thanks newfan:) sunn um random thoughts on kris and Adam at the emmys(not),and whether the switch from AI Adam to tour Adam will be too much for some ppl.I’ll look it up hoppers…..

  115. Oh I have no doubt it has! :) I’m just saying that for someone who didn’t watch Adam all summer it might have been too drastic a change from AI Adam to tour Adam.

    Thats why im nervous to show my mom tour!adam as you call him. She was a big fan of his during the season and I don’t think she’s that conservative….buuuuut ehh.

  116. Donorschoose.org/Adamlambert is a little over 10K shy of reaching 200K in donations. WOW! In only one months time that is very very impressive.

  117. soverymel just posted this in another thread…. ruh roh

    http://bit.ly/GemUJ

    It’s a review of the Pink concert with Adam and Drake name-dropped at the beginning and a little at the end. Maybe this is why we’re wary of him taking a date to an awards show…. heh.

    Imagine the theatrics he’s cooking up now between this and that new Zodiac clip! The Flaming Headress of Doom might make a return appearance!

  118. Squirrely: Donorschoose.org/Adamlambert is a little over 10K shy of reaching 200K in donations. WOW! In only one months time that is very very impressive.

    I am so happy at this news. Its a great cause, and a VERY well run charity.

    I wish it could hit $200K, but I don’t see it happening by tonight.

    [grin] Whether its actually true or not, I like to think I’m the person who bumped it over the $100K mark. However, no matter how much I fully support the cause, bumping it over $200K ain’t in my cards! :-)

    [crossing fingers] I hope it gets real close, though!

  119. Squirrely
    September 20, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    Donorschoose.org/Adamlambert is a little over 10K shy of reaching 200K in donations. WOW! In only one months time that is very very impressive.

    Impressive indeed – the total might actually get to 200K considering that the ontd_ai group alone has donated about 10K since this time yesterday! I’m flabbergasted – that’s a lot of money donated in one month.

  120. Thanks luv!!!!

    For a sec there I thought my posts were invisible again. LOL

    Jim Cantillo tweeted:

    Prepping q’s for a short Kris Allen interview that will take place less than 86400 seconds from now. #LiveLikeImDyingToChatAboutMusicW/Kris

  121. Jim Cantillo tweeted:

    Sunn, is Jim based in NY or LA????

    Oh, wait, never mind…. just noticed the # of seconds till it starts….

  122. Hi Sunn!!

    Bit of a slow news day. Chris Sligh gave some good advice to current idols (see separate thread), there’s been some speculation on who’s going to the Emmy’s, the usual joking around (sponsored by Vaseline), Adam has disappeared into the studio (and we’re STILL WAITING :-) on how “much” studio time that represents), and the last day of donorschoose.org challenge is today.

    I think that’s it.

  123. Jim cantiello seems really excited about the kris interview tommorow…he’s tweeted about it a lot…OMA WOW!!!!!!!!!!! ALMOST 200K THATS AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wow wow wow-did I say that lready? LOL 200k!!!!!!!! Thats a Lot.I’m glad ontd_ai will win. finding out about biggest regret(even though it’s fir rascal flatte) takes some really good detective work:D

  124. Sunn: For a sec there I thought my posts were invisible again. LOL

    Some of us are still having connectivity issues… :razz:

    [sees white spectral shapes in the distance]

    Or not. Sunn?? Sunn?? Is that you?? Come back to the light……!!!!

  125. OMK ITS ALMOST TIME FOR THE FULL VERSION OF LIVE LIKE WERE DYING!!!!!!!!!! brb flailing….

  126. Here’s an article explaining the “Breakthrough Performance” Emmy:

    http://www.buddytv.com/articles/2007-emmy-awards/cbs-adds-breakthrough-performa-31001.aspx

    An excerpt:

    The number of things that are unbelievably stupid and wrong with this decision is astounding. Even if you don’t like the Emmys, you have to admit that this decision is actively killing what little credibility the Emmys hoped to maintain.

    I couldn’t agree more.

    ETA: Another excerpt:

    . . .and if you’re going to pick an American Idol moment, it should only be Norman Gentle.

    :)

  127. soverymel just posted this in another thread’ ¦. ruh roh

    http://bit.ly/GemUJ

    It’s a review of the Pink concert with Adam and Drake name-dropped at the beginning and a little at the end. Maybe this is why we’re wary of him taking a date to an awards show’ ¦. heh.

    Imagine the theatrics he’s cooking up now between this and that new Zodiac clip! The Flaming Headress of Doom might make a return appearance!

    Most definitely after watching this concerts he already has crazy idea for his own concert. The review and the pictures of her concert and from what Adam said about it, that’s an amazing concert.

  128. HoppersSkippersMiners
    September 20, 2009 at 6:07 pm
    Hi Sunn!!

    Bit of a slow news day. Chris Sligh gave some good advice to current idols (see separate thread), there’s been some speculation on who’s going to the Emmy’s, the usual joking around (sponsored by Vaseline), Adam has disappeared into the studio (and we’re STILL WAITING on how ‘much’  studio time that represents), and the last day of donorschoose.org challenge is today.

    Thanks Hoppers.

    Time in the studio is relevant I think on the state of the songs. Are they finished, are they recording initial cuts or final cuts.
    If it’s the final cut stage, it’s not unheard of to have the whole album (12-16 songs) recorded in one week. This information is based on years of reading sundry music articles, I have nothing with which to verify the information. So take this as the memory detritus that it is.

  129. Or not. Sunn?? Sunn?? Is that you?? Come back to the light’ ¦’ ¦!!!!

    I hear someone calling me……

    fades to white.

  130. anthrogeek
    September 20, 2009 at 5:54 pm
    soverymel just posted this in another thread’ ¦. ruh roh

    http://bit.ly/GemUJ

    Prominent placement of Adam’s name in a Pink review is a good thing… however it looks like expectations get higher for him every day…

    After all, the eye-grabbing sensation Ms. Moore finally brought home after hugely successful tours of Europe and Australia is precisely the sort of gender-bending extravaganza to which the American Idol star aspires. His nationwide splash was such a cannonball that he has no choice but to return with over-the-top excitement, wild grandeur, plenty of daring ‘“- all the elements that make Pink’s current Funhouse fantasia so marvelous.

  131. After all, the eye-grabbing sensation Ms. Moore finally brought home after hugely successful tours of Europe and Australia is precisely the sort of gender-bending extravaganza to which the American Idol star aspires. His nationwide splash was such a cannonball that he has no choice but to return with over-the-top excitement, wild grandeur, plenty of daring ‘“- all the elements that make Pink’s current Funhouse fantasia so marvelous.

    Let’s pray that RCA will back him up on this. I couldn’t wait.

  132. anthrogeek
    September 20, 2009 at 5:54 pm
    soverymel just posted this in another thread’ ¦. ruh roh

    http://bit.ly/GemUJ

    Well, this reviewer made it sound as if Adam had no choice but to start with huge, very large budget, extravaganza tour. I wonder how RCA feel about it?

  133. will, I agree it’s a lame-ass excuse for an “award”, but unless I’m looking at something wrong, that initial list of 15 nominees has been whittled down to 3, with our boys included. I don’t know what that means as far as odds of the moment “winning” and/or of our boys making an appearance…..

    Also, I promised NewFan not to comment further on this, but I said nothing about quoting it…..

    The award is for the best moment on TV this season, and the “Breakthrough Performance” title only exists so Vaseline can promote the breakthrough technology of its newest product.

    “Insert” your own joke here. heh.

  134. NewFan: Oh and Hoppers? Which grey monstrosity?

    Sorry, NewFan, missed this the first read-’round

    I was referring to the modern-art-ish grey and white patterned T-shirt that Adam wears A LOT (example here, but plenty more). Actually, I kinda liked it originally. It suddenly just struck some weird chord in me that I was seeing that shirt more than I was seeing some of my own shirts…and the fact that I’ve seen enough Adam pic and interviews that I was recognizing most of his wardrobe on sight was freaking me out slightly.

  135. I had an interesting idea for Twitter people to trend Kris’s new single.

    #LiveLikeWereDying, followed by something we gotta do before we die or something insane we’d do that we’d probably do if we were dying. There could be some funny responses, such as

    #LiveLikeWereDying, gotta go to an Adam fansite as a Kris Fan

  136. Let’s pray that RCA will back him up on this. I couldn’t wait.

    Yeah, but he’s gotta ease into something this extravagant and get a fan base built up that’s a lot bigger then the Idol audience. Even Pink didn’t come out of the gate like this; she’s paid her dues to get this big.

  137. How exactly is Adam Lambert – a brand new artist – going to do that kind of rock show either headlining small venues or opening up for someone bigger? Is he going to be selling out stadiums right away? Please.

    This kind of stuff isn’t handed to brand-new artists off the bat. They have to work for it.

  138. It’s a review of the Pink concert with Adam and Drake name-dropped at the beginning and a little at the end. Maybe this is why we’re wary of him taking a date to an awards show’ ¦. heh.

    Get a room Adam. Geez…..blech.

  139. HoppersSkippersMiners
    September 20, 2009 at 6:23 pm
    NewFan: Oh and Hoppers? Which grey monstrosity?

    Sorry, NewFan, missed this the first read-’round

    I was referring to the modern-art-ish grey and white patterned T-shirt that Adam wears A LOT (example here, but plenty more).

    I hate that shirt.

    And as for that “breakthrough performance?” I refuse to relive that moment. I’ve gotten over it, but I don’t have to see it ever again.

  140. An excerpt:

    The number of things that are unbelievably stupid and wrong with this decision is astounding. Even if you don’t like the Emmys, you have to admit that this decision is actively killing what little credibility the Emmys hoped to maintain.

    I couldn’t agree more.

    I agree. What I love about the Emmy’s/Golden Globes/ and Oscars as well as the Grammy’s and AMAs – fans have little involvement in choosing the winners. This award should be reserved for the People’s Choice awards, which I never watch.

  141. Get a room Adam. Geez’ ¦..blech.

    Oh, I’m quite sure they did… :twisted:

  142. See you later, guys. Its a sad sign that I just realized that I let my daughter nap more than an hour longer than she should have just to get my blogging jones in. That kid’s gonna be up to midnight at this rate. Crap.

    [waves]

  143. This kind of stuff isn’t handed to brand-new artists off the bat. They have to work for it.

    I agree. Frankly, I was shocked at the reviewers expectations.

  144. After the so-called ” breakthrough performance ” I cried for 3 weeks (etc.) still call it the end of the world and am still NOT over it and in real life use any chance I can to mention how unbelievably BITTER I am over it…..so, yeah I hope it doesn’t win:/

    in other news I might have homework!! Let me check….brb

  145. How exactly is Adam Lambert ‘“ a brand new artist ‘“ going to do that kind of rock show either headlining small venues or opening up for someone bigger? Is he going to be selling out stadiums right away? Please.

    This kind of stuff isn’t handed to brand-new artists off the bat. They have to work for it.

    No, but I’m having a tough time imaging him touring the local bar/college campus circuit. I am curious as to how he will be promoting his music.

    Clearone– Get a room Adam. Geez’ ¦..blech.

    Did you read the article?

  146. Sunn
    September 20, 2009 at 6:31 pm
    This kind of stuff isn’t handed to brand-new artists off the bat. They have to work for it.

    I agree. Frankly, I was shocked at the reviewers expectations.

    So was I and I’m sure Adam would be too. He made a great impression on tour, as evidenced by the audience and reviewers (both within and outside of the idol universe) without any of that stuff, no backup dancers, no pyrotechnics, just him and the band. I think he’ll be fine.

  147. Byeeeeeeee hoppers….I think that reviewer was just trying to get Adam’s name in the review…not a big deal…I like the grey shirt…because yknow Adam’s wearing it(facepalms)

  148. luvadamlambert
    September 20, 2009 at 6:38 pm
    Byeeeeeeee hoppers’ ¦.I think that reviewer was just trying to get Adam’s name in the review’ ¦not a big deal

    You are wise, grasshopper…

  149. shit.I just remembered I might have drama club tommorow.which means I won’t be able to hear live like were dying until like 4:30….D:

  150. On the “E” red carpet show they flashed a stream of news at the bottom and Adam came up. It said “Adam Lamber on the idol concert says lots of weird items are being thrown on stage, it’s very S&M”. That ‘s not verbatim but I found it very random to throw that in especially since the concerts are over now.

  151. Thats weird richie10 thats news from a few months ago.and not really news…..?! what time do the Emmy’s start?7?!

  152. random thought of the day: the only Adam hair I don’t like is his hair frm the last concert….ewwwww..,,,,,…no just nooo

  153. It’s a review of the Pink concert with Adam and Drake name-dropped at the beginning and a little at the end. Maybe this is why we’re wary of him taking a date to an awards show’ ¦. heh.

    Agreed. He’s got to make sure is personal life doesn’t get more buzz than his professional life. It’s early days in his career, but as time goes on, he will have to be more guarded. I do think part of Britney’s downfall was that her private life was so public. What was that documentary she made with KFED? Chaos or something like that…ah KFED, another one who seems to love the tanks.

  154. Goodnight Sunn and Squirelly,

    I had to step away for a minute.

    Androgeek. You are bad; very bad. And, apparently, you have smelly underwear too. But I can forgive anyone who has your sense of humor.

    I know the grey shirt you’re thinking of Hoppers and Adamaloha. I hate that one too. But I like the grey one with they skulls down one side.

    It’s nice that Adam is getting free publicity because reviewers like him (or they’ve realized that his name gets ‘hits’ ) … but yes to everyone who thinks that he and Drake should get a room. You can have so much more fun in a room.

    And am I just wrong to hope that ‘big spectacle’ shows don’t happen right away. I’d like to hear and see the dude ‘just singing’ before he gets too far into costumes and props.

  155. I do think part of Britney’s downfall was that her private life was so public. What was that documentary she made with KFED? Chaos or something like that’ ¦ah KFED, another one who seem to love the tanks

    oh jeez thanks… now I am worried!!! Drake has that KFED look too…. ARGH!!! ;-)

  156. Kara looks fabulous on the Red Carpet. Love the white dress, hair, make-up.

  157. night, squirrely and sunn..
    pleasant dreams.

    dhunken
    September 20, 2009 at 7:15 pm
    I do think part of Britney’s downfall was that her private life was so public. What was that documentary she made with KFED? Chaos or something like that’ ¦ah KFED, another one who seem to love the tanks

    oh jeez thanks’ ¦ now I am worried!!! Drake has that KFED look too’ ¦. ARGH!!!

    Now, now. That’s just mean. True, but mean. :)
    and I’m sure Adam is a better judge of character than Britney….

  158. Is he going to be selling out stadiums right away? Please.
    This kind of stuff isn’t handed to brand-new artists off the bat. They have to work for it.

    No, but I’m having a tough time imaging him touring the local bar/college campus circuit. I am curious as to how he will be promoting his music.

    I’m with Squirelly on this one. Fortunately and/or unfortunately, I can’t see him in small venues so me-thinks he’s got to get a gig where he opens for a large act or, don’t laugh, he plays a few large venues in select cities with lots of advanced promotion so that they sell out as much as possible.

    Or if the big spectacle thing is inevitable and sooner than later … does Cirque de Soleil ever cast an opening act? No. Oh well.

    Must step away again. But I hope that all (or at least some) of you will still be here in a couple of hours. If not … next time.

  159. We’ve talked about Drake’s tanks, his hair, his nose. But how come we let his smoking cigarette’s habit slide? Is no one worried about Adam’s voice?

  160. Sidewalkstory,

    WHAT…………………………………?

    THIS IS TRES BAD AND NOT ACCEPTABLE. HE MUST GO (OR QUIT)…………!!!.

    Going now.

  161. We’ve talked about Drake’s tanks, his hair, his nose. But how come we let his smoking cigarette’s habit slide? Is no one worried about Adam’s voice?

    I didn’t know he smoked. Well, at least in LA you can only smoke outside……so that helps.

  162. drake smokes!!!????? SIGHz.I hate smoking but thats probay because my mom’s a doctor and whenever I’m in her office I read those stupid DONT SNOKE OR YOULL DIE brochures.heh.

  163. Keep reading those brochures Luv ….. at least untill you’re 30. Not preaching here. Just speaking from experience. Love ya

  164. If you go to Drake’s twitter pic’s there is a pic of him sitting on the grass at an outdoor concert in May with a cig in his hand. Yesterday there was a twit pic of him by a pool with a female friend and his cig’s are on the table.

    Gonna see if I can find pics again.

  165. Yeah, I agree, and he’s definitely smart enough to know to ease into his post-Idol self,

    What with this and all the Vaseline jokes… I’m kind of grossed out.

    Meanwhile, if Adam follows the Chris Daughtry path of getting to arenas, he will do some small-to-medium college gigs, open for somebody else’s stadium tour (although I can already hear all the kvetching about how poor, sad Aerosmith or GNR is such a letdown after the supernova that is Adam Lambert. Remember, kids, a supernova is a star that explodes with a brief bright light and then disappears. Is that really what you want for your Lambeloved? But I digress.) Okay, so, following the Daughtry path, he would do smallish college gigs and then open for somebody bigger, and then, eventually, after a huge multi-platinum album, he will move on to headlining his own tour in arenas, but the medium-sized ones like Idol plays in, with, say 10,000 seats, not the huge ones with 50,000 seats.

    And pyrotechnics and smoke and fancy costumes are expensive when you are fronting the cost of the tour all by yourself, and they require extra buses and trucks, extra roadies, extra tour management, and extra safety precautions inside the arena. Somebody has to slap that set and all those bells and whistles together in a different place every night. If you’re U2, you can afford to pay for the technology and the people to run it. Lambepalooza on his first tour? Not so much.

  166. sidewalkstory
    September 20, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    Found it. Drake w/ cig:

    http://twitpic.com/8893k

    Ok personally not happy that he is a smoker….but our President is a smoker and that does not seem to bother anyone…Kind of surprised that Adam would date a smoker though…oh and this is another similarity to KFED!!!!!

  167. And pyrotechnics and smoke and fancy costumes are expensive when you are fronting the cost of the tour all by yourself, and they require extra buses and trucks, extra roadies, extra tour management, and extra safety precautions inside the arena. Somebody has to slap that set and all those bells and whistles together in a different place every night. If you’re U2, you can afford to pay for the technology and the people to run it. Lambepalooza on his first tour? Not so much.

    The great thing about Adam is that, while he would love to have all of those things, he doesn’t NEED to have them. He had the same tools as all of the other idols at his disposal during the AI tour and had the crowd eating out of his hand. He had major big-city and small-city reviewers raving about his performances, alot of them commenting on his talent being outside the usual Idolsphere and judging him on that basis.

    Personally, I think he’ll be performing as an opening act for someone else’s tour and maybe some small-medium sized venues to begin. I’m just eager for it all to start.

  168. Pres. Obama smoking has nothing to do with Adam, who needs his voice to make a living. Adam, who is so careful of his voice that he sent for his humidifier while in the mansion.

  169. Yikes, I gotta admit talking about who Adam should date/not date, judging who he dates based on how he dresses or other reasons, makes me uncomfortable.

    I figure, I saw Leila Lambert hugging Drake a bunch and seemingly very close to him during the AI season, so if she doesn’t have a problem with him, neither should anybody else..LOL

    She actually IS his mother.

  170. Emmy’s start at 7:00 central time. Ryan was just interviewing Kara. He’s interviewing Justin Timberlake now on “E” red carpet.

  171. sidewalkstory
    September 20, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    Pres. Obama smoking has nothing to do with Adam, who needs his voice to make a living.

    Oh I agree 100% but for some reason Knowing our president is a smoker and could be damaging his health scares me just as much as Drake messing with Adams voice…..ok maybe not as much but it scares me :-) I only hope Adam makes Drake smoke outside when they are home together

  172. “Falling Slowly” was just performed (okay, a bar or two) on a rerun of “The Simpsons”!!

    It sounded like Glen Hansard, too, so I think it must’ve been a cameo. I love that song. Too bad a cartoon guy shoved a piano out the window to stop cartoon Glen Hansard from singing more of it.

    Also, Obama is not a chain smoker. Not that Obama is on topic, but since dhunken keeps repeating the chain smoker thing, I felt compelled to refute that. Not only is he NOT a chain smoker, but as of June 09, he said that he has quit smoking, although he admitted that he falls off the wagon occasionally. But he considers himself a former smoker, not a current smoker and certainly not the oft-repeated chain smoker. Okay, carry on.

  173. Ryan was just interviewing Kara.

    That was about an half hour ago here, maybe an hour. Isn’t E live all over or is there a time zone delay?

  174. Someone asked Anoop a question and his answer made me chuckle.

    @anoopdoggdesai do you think AI will win for best reality tv show?

    -#”I hope so, and that I get some sort of certificate haha”

  175. Meanwhile, if Adam follows the Chris Daughtry path of getting to arenas, he will do some small-to-medium college gigs

    Somehow, I can’t quite see this.

  176. Also, Obama is not a chain smoker.

    Thank you for this smartcookie. Makes me feel better.

  177. >Meanwhile, if Adam follows the Chris Daughtry path of getting to arenas, >he will do some small-to-medium college gigs

    Well, it’s unlikely he’ll be handed arenas right away, or even theaters that seat a couple of thousand. Daughtry and Cook had to work their way to get there, and that was after proving they could sell out multiple venues and had successful albums. Adam Lambert is not above any of this. Kelly and Carrie also had to work their way to opening large venues by themselves, and had to work the fair and festival circuit like many, many other artists. This, along with possibly opening for larger bands, is all part of the job description and nobody who’s just starting out really gets to avoid it if they want it to work.

  178. And pyrotechnics and smoke and fancy costumes are expensive when you are fronting the cost of the tour all by yourself, and they require extra buses and trucks, extra roadies, extra tour management, and extra safety precautions inside the arena. Somebody has to slap that set and all those bells and whistles together in a different place every night. If you’re U2, you can afford to pay for the technology and the people to run it. Lambepalooza on his first tour? Not so much.

    Adam’s management might just be willing to do a “mini-Lambepalooza” if they think he’s worth the risk and I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s getting the same nice financial package as Kris. I think all of these props are part of Adam’s way of selling himself and they’re going to play a vital part in his success. I really can’t picture him at a small college venue doing something simple. I see him targetting venues like Casinos then moving up. It’s the kind of risk that someone like Adam can pull off, especially with his theatre background.

  179. Apparently, this was a spoiler for the Emmy’s. Who knew one could spoil the Emmys.

  180. HEY…that’s a spoiler. There is an EMMY thread set up. Emmy’s haven’t started here yet.

  181. Jordin’s about to sing the National Anthem. Looks like she’s having trouble with lip-syncing it.

    They’re not showing her AT ALL! AFter that first part, just the last little part.

  182. Drake messing with Adams voice’ ¦..ok maybe not as much but it scares me I only hope Adam makes Drake smoke outside when they are home together’ ¦

    I saw a picture where Adam was smoking, so Drake’s smoking is hardly an issue. Maybe it was a chop. IDK. I can never tell.

  183. Yikes, I gotta admit talking about who Adam should date/not date, judging who he dates based on how he dresses or other reasons, makes me uncomfortable.

    I figure, I saw Leila Lambert hugging Drake a bunch and seemingly very close to him during the AI season, so if she doesn’t have a problem with him, neither should anybody else..LOL

    She actually IS his mother.

    Here, here!

    Not that Obama is on topic, but since dhunken keeps repeating the chain smoker thing, I felt compelled to refute that. Not only is he NOT a chain smoker, but as of June 09, he said that he has quit smoking, although he admitted that he falls off the wagon occasionally. But he considers himself a former smoker, not a current smoker and certainly not the oft-repeated chain smoker. Okay, carry on.

    I love and admire our president, but being a true former smoker myself, he can’t claim that if he keeps falling off the wagon and having last smoked in June 09. He’s still trying to quit and kudos for that, but he’s still a smoker.

  184. My son told me that he had seen a photo of Adam smoking, and it was not photoshopped (in his opinion, and he can sniff them out). I assumed he was mistaken – would love to see a link to the photo, but frankly hope that it doesn’t exist. Adam is so careful of his voice…I wonder if the photo could have been from a theater scene?
    Would love a follow-up.
    (And hi, all! how nice to see everyone post-tour!)

  185. I hope Adam never has to do county/state fair. Just does not seem right. I was sort of shocked to see a billboard that Cook and Clarkston were still doing them.
    I think Adam could sell out smaller venues in the beginning, JMO

  186. although I can already hear all the kvetching about how poor, sad Aerosmith is such a letdown

    Yes, that’s true since Kris and Aerosmith are basically in the same category of performers.

    Okay, so, following the Daughtry path, he would do smallish college gigs and then open for somebody bigger, and then, eventually, after a huge multi-platinum album, he will move on to headlining his own tour in arenas, but the medium-sized ones like Idol plays in, with, say 10,000 seats, not the huge ones with 50,000 seats.

    If you say so…sounds good to me!!!

  187. From Adam twitter:

    In Denver recording w Ryan Tedder!!! Get ready for your Sonic Lobotomy!
    5 minutes ago from Echofon

  188. Adam just tweeted that he is in Denver w/ Ryan Tedder. Guess that tweet that leaked song is going to happen.

  189. I was hoping it did not exist either but it does. Here you go.

    Yes, that’s the one I saw (except a different link to it). His hair is shorter, so perhaps it is an older photo? IDK.

  190. That is not Adam smoking – the hair, the nails – not Adam. Did you read the caption – it was not nice. Forgery !!!!!!!!!!!!! Looks like a joint – not a cigarette.

  191. I hope Adam never has to do county/state fair. Just does not seem right. I was sort of shocked to see a billboard that Cook and Clarkston were still doing them.

    Cook has performed at state fairs that had over 14,000 people in attendance. That is more people than some of the venues that all 10 season 8 finalists were unable to fill as a group (and last I checked, Adam was part of season 8). There are not too many performers that do not do state fairs. Katy Perry performed at the same venue that Cook did the day before. I say good luck to Adam if his fans think he’s too good for that.

  192. Mila
    September 20, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    What does he mean by a sonic lobotomy????

    Now this is only my opinion but, maybe he is implying that they are going to create a song so good….it is mind numbing…

  193. Looks like a joint ‘“ not a cigarette.

    yep. especially how he’s smoking it.

  194. In Denver recording w Ryan Tedder!!! Get ready for your Sonic Lobotomy!
    5 minutes ago from Echofon

    If the captilization is correct, it’s the name of a song.

  195. Readon, yes, I found the capitals weird too… first thouth was that it was the name of the song

  196. >I hope Adam never has to do county/state fair. Just does not seem right. >I was sort of shocked to see a billboard that Cook and Clarkston were >still doing them.

    Kelly, Archie, and Cook do state fairs often, as do many other acts. The crowd size can vary, but it’s an easy way to play for thousands of people who wouldn’t know you right away. Daughtry, Pickler, and Carrie did them as recently as last year. It’s nothing to turn one’s nose up at.

    BTW, David Cook played casinos early in his run and continues to do so, varying it with other types of venues.

  197. In Denver recording w Ryan Tedder!!! Get ready for your Sonic Lobotomy!
    5 minutes ago from Echofon

    If the capitalization is correct, it’s the name of a song.

    Good point….and if you’re right great name for a song!

  198. I found the capitals weird too’ ¦

    Adam punctuates like a girl. Lots of !!!! and caps for attention.

  199. I just cant’t see Adam doing the college type tour. Taylor Hicks had a solo tour and I saw him in a theater that sat 2650 and it was full. All the places he played at weren’t that large but some were. He did mostly theater and casinos. If he could do that kind of tour, I’m sure Adam can. Daughtry opened for Bon Jovi for some time and it might be hard to find an act that Adam could open for, I guess time will tell so until then we’ll just have to keep guessing. But I really, really want an Adam tour soon any way shape or form.

  200. Detroit on Friday. Pink concert Friday night in LA. Out to studio at 8am on Saturday in LA. In Denver on Sunday. He’s a busy guy.

  201. May
    September 20, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    I hope Adam never has to do county/state fair. Just does not seem right. I was sort of shocked to see a billboard that Cook and Clarkston were still doing them.

    Cook has performed at state fairs that had over 14,000 people in attendance. That is more people than some of the venues that all 10 season 8 finalists were unable to fill as a group (and last I checked, Adam was part of season 8). There are not too many performers that do not do state fairs. Katy Perry performed at the same venue that Cook did the day before. I say good luck to Adam if his fans think he’s too good for that.

    When I think of state fairs…… cows, pigs, carneys

  202. Adam punctuates like a girl.

    I don’t think so. I don’t have the statistics at hand to prove it, but women are usually considered good at grammar. I would say that his grammar fits the club rat that he is or use to be.

  203. sidewalkstory
    September 20, 2009 at 9:03 pm
    Adam just tweeted that he is in Denver w/ Ryan Tedder. Guess that tweet that leaked song is going to happen.

    If you’re talking about “Biggest Regret”, Aimee Mayo retweeted that she had written other songs with Tedder and Rascall Flatts had recorded Biggest Regret with Colbie Calait doing backing vocals. So prolly not that one at least.

  204. If the captilization is correct, it’s the name of a song.

    But you’d have to assume that Adam knows how capitalization works. That’s a big assumption to make…

    That would be a really cool song title though. Although music so good that it gives me a sonic lobotomy is a-ok too.

    I do not want Adam smoking/ anywhere near second smoke 1000x more than I do not want him to get a sleeve tat. Do not want him to ruin his voice/get lung cancer, omg.

  205. When I think of state fairs’ ¦’ ¦ cows, pigs, carneys

    Welcome to the Houston Rodeo. We’ve had Beyonce, Miley, Rascal Flatts, etc.

  206. but women are usually considered good at grammar.

    It’s not grammar, it’s punctuation.

    I’ve read articles that women are more likely to use exclamation points than men. Perhaps it was when I read Eats, Shoots & Leaves.

  207. In Denver recording w Ryan Tedder!!! Get ready for your Sonic Lobotomy!
    5 minutes ago from Echofon

    He’s probably referring to this latest description of his album he gave in the Syracuse interviews:

    “It is a sonic dress-up party,” Lambert says. “It has it’s theatricality. It has a pop vein. It’s very catchy and radio-friendly. It has a lot of rock elements, and dance elements.”

    Source: http://blog.syracuse.com/listenup/2009/09/idols_share_a_thought_or_three.html

    So Sonic Lobotomy – we’re going to lose our minds over it???

  208. It’s not grammar, it’s punctuation

    Doesn’t grammar include punctuation? However, no stats so no debate from me. Concede.

  209. Adam sure get a lot of flak for his punctuation and spelling. Have any of you looked at the twitters of any of Adam’s friends that he follows? Most of them are FAR worse and half the time make no sense at all! As long as I’m posting on something this trivial :) – being able to spell must be very nice for those who can do it, however, there are many of us for whom it just does not come naturally. I am very well educated, in my mid-40’s and a life-long reader (before Adam, I typically read 4 or 5 books per week) – my spelling still sucks and spell-check is my best friend.

  210. When I think of state fairs’ ¦’ ¦ cows, pigs, carneys

    I wonder how people like Carrie and Daughtry and Katy Perry have tolerated such a demeaning type of setting. Oh wait I forgot none of them are worldwide superstars. Maybe Adam will be booked in Madison Square Garden or Wembley Stadium out of the gate.

    And as mentioned on the previous page not only did Carrie do state fairs early on but she did some as late as 2008 as well, well after all her massive success.

  211. Just an observation as a newbie to this thread…just a few days ago a blogger was deriding David Cook for playing casinos as “I thought he was big. Why is he playing a casino 2 hours outside of Toronto?.” Now AL fans want him to play casinos? I don’t get the double standard from AL fans. As a poster above said DC has played small and large venues. State fairs and fesitvals are a good way to build a fan base. Lots of people outside the AI bubble. Most are of decent size 4,000 to 15, 000 people. Why wouldn’t a novice performer want to play to these venues? Seems to me, this gets your name out there regardless of where the venue is. That’s the name of the game, whether your the most hyped or the #10 finalist. As DC said “AI is a platform. The work starts after the finale”.

  212. I’m back from a brief foray into RL (and it wasn’t pretty, actually, I am better off here tonight…) and…saw the Adam smoking pic. Thanks for the speedy research!
    Hmmm…it does look more like a joint than a cigarette. And it frankly doesn’t look much like Adam. Look at the nose with the bump. And the ear is not pierced.
    If it is indeed Adam, it may be from quite a while ago, pre-ear pierce. He has been open about his drug experimentation in the past. IMO, a joint would make more sense than tobacco, given his care with his voice.
    But I am not convinced that it’s our boy.

  213. ksgirlfordc – I, as an ardent Cookie fan, agree with you. I only remember one person posting here who was deriding the casino gig. Most fans agree with Cook that him getting out there and playing for the people is great.

  214. (before Adam, I typically read 4 or 5 books per week)

    I also use to read 4 to 5 books a week pre-Adam. Now I am lucky if I get through two.

  215. I always guessed that that cigarette picture was posed… there are several pictures of younger adam that were posed and this one was amongst many of those, so it never occurred to me that he would really smoke. At least not regularly. He seems to careful about his voice.

    I didnt find any Sonic Lobotomy song at BMI and ASCAP, lol, but maybe it is a song.

    I have no idea where adam’s concerts are going to be. Curious!

  216. I’ve read articles that women are more likely to use exclamation points than men.

    That’s not true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    (And anyone who thinks that’s Adam in that photo has been smoking too much of what that dude is smoking.)

  217. When I think of state fairs’ ¦’ ¦ cows, pigs, carneys

    I wonder how people like Carrie and Daughtry and Katy Perry have tolerated such a demeaning type of setting.

    Whoa nelly! Trina, have you been to a state fair? Many of them are huge events – with significant headliners. Definitely not demeaning.

    Depends on the state, actually. And some of the concert halls are very nice venues. They actually have floors, not just some straw thrown over the manure…

  218. Just an observation as a newbie to this thread’ ¦just a few days ago a blogger was deriding David Cook for playing casinos as ‘I thought he was big. Why is he playing a casino 2 hours outside of Toronto?.’  Now AL fans want him to play casinos? I don’t get the double standard from AL fans.

    Well, for one, it was ONE person who was saying that, and that person isn’t posting right now. Contrary to popular belief, there are Adam Lambert fans that have minds of their own and think differently than others. I know he’s a glittery alien and all, but he’s not the Borg. We’re not all assimilated.

    I’m a fan of both Adam and David. I just want both of them to be able to perform in front of fans who appreciate them, I don’t care what the venue is. That is all.

  219. I’m a fan of both Adam and David. I just want both of them to be able to perform in front of fans who appreciate them, I don’t care what the venue is. That is all.

    I 100% agree and have a feeling so would David and Adam!!!!

  220. He has been open about his drug experimentation in the past. IMO, a joint would make more sense than tobacco, given his care with his voice.

    Yep, I remember the infamous “I think someone put drugs in this weed” quote..lol.

  221. Whoa nelly! Trina, have you been to a state fair? Many of them are huge events ‘“ with significant headliners. Definitely not demeaning.

    LOL I’ve been to TONS of state fairs and my post was supposed to be pure snark, I know full well there’s nothing demeaning about them, especially the ones that pull in 10,000-15,000 people and why I noted Carrie was still playing them even after her gazillion awards and 10 million albums.

  222. Looks like Danny is reconnecting with some AI peeps in Nashville. Also read on Twitter that he went by some store to visit Ricky Braddy. They later all went out to dinner together. I don’t even remember the girl, Sharon Wilbur, though. I do remember Brent Keith and Ricky Braddy. I thought Ricky was the other one from Group 1 that should have gone through to the next round, instead of Michael.

    Danny tweeted:

    Hangin w/ @brentkeith & @sharonwilbur who I met in Hollywood during idol experience! They r amazing singers-And w/sharons hubby @joelwilbur
    about 2 hours ago from Twitterrific

    Brent Keith tweeted:

    Hanging with my wife, @dannygokey, @sharonwilbur, and @joelwilbur having some coffee in Nashville. Dinner in a minute.
    about 2 hours ago from Echofon

    NOW @rickybraddy has joined us! Idol reunion.
    40 minutes ago from txt

  223. LOL I’ve been to TONS of state fairs and my post was supposed to be pure snark, I know full well there’s nothing demeaning about them,

    Well I gotta admit, our NM State Fair concerts occur after the rodeo, the performers come out in a truck so they don’t have to step on the cow pies, so yeah, not the best venue. BUT…a nice size audience. They only really book old 80’s acts and mid-level country acts though.

    When David came here to NM, he played in a beautiful renovated 1920’s theater that sat about 800 people. Beautiful venue, performance and performer.

  224. http://twitpic.com/8893k

    Thanks for posting pic of Drake at Voodoo Fest…I live in New Orleans and have yet to go….Off to order my tickets for this Oct event …can’t pass up the chance for a glimpse of Adam…. a girl can dream

  225. Whoa nelly! Trina, have you been to a state fair? Many of them are huge events ‘“ with significant headliners. Definitely not demeaning.

    I would bet my computer that Trina was being sarcastic.

  226. Trina
    September 20, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    Whoa nelly! Trina, have you been to a state fair? Many of them are huge events ‘“ with significant headliners. Definitely not demeaning.

    LOL I’ve been to TONS of state fairs and my post was supposed to be pure snark, I know full well there’s nothing demeaning about them, especially the ones that pull in 10,000-15,000 people and why I noted Carrie was still playing them even after her gazillion awards and 10 million albums.

    chuckle! just wanted to clarify. I know any number of people who do think “manure” when they think “county fair”.

    In my experience, fair audiences tend to be enthusiastic and welcoming, ready to have a good time.

  227. I know he’s a glittery alien and all, but he’s not the Borg. We’re not all assimilated.

    Ha Ha, I love that you made a Borg reference. Maybe you are just 7 of 9 and dare to be different? J.K., yes, I am such a nerd

  228. Hi guys! I’ve been out if the loop for two days and it’s been torture! To add insult to injury, I get home and realize I left my computer on a train!!!

    *life flashes before eyes*

    Work computer. Whole life on it (including Adam obsession in history). Panic. But some exhaulted soul turned it in and by the grace of God I won’t be fired tomorrow! Yay! I’ll call it an Adam miracle.

  229. Adding that I saw Cookie and his fine band play this summer at a COUNTY fair in my state – to a crowd estimated at between 8 and 10,000 people. They played a great, hard rockin show and DC was charming. I see nothing “demeaning” in playing a show like that.

  230. Kelly Clarkson played at the York Fair the week before David Cook played. Not too shabby.

  231. I think that smoking pic is Adam … and that it’s from an old photoshoot .. same time as this pic was taken

    http://static.sdnn.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/adam-lambert1.jpg

    so I would say whether it’s a ciggie or a splif .. he’s posing for a set photo.

    Even if it wasn’t staged for a shoot it doesn’t mean that he’s a hard or regular smoker … when I was in my 20’s I sometimes used to have the odd drag on a ciggie in a club when I’d had a drink but very rarely and I’ve never considered myself a smoker.

    As for the Sonic Lobotomy thing .. I think it’s just adam using capitals for effect .. and he’s referring to the effect the song will have on people rather than an actual title … actually I’m not sure whether I want one of those …lol

    .. as for punctuation, he does punctuate like a girl .. we overdo the punctuation for effect … my vice is “dot’s disease” as you can see … and over use of the word “lol”

  232. Susan M.

    …and realize I left my computer on a train!!!

    *life flashes before eyes*

    Work computer. Whole life on it (including Adam obsession in history). Panic. But some exhaulted soul turned it in and by the grace of God I won’t be fired tomorrow! Yay! I’ll call it an Adam miracle.

    LOL! or maybe good voodoo, a Drake miracle?
    never mind…

  233. Can you imagine a Bowe Medly like act or a Muse like act at a State Fair?

  234. readon
    September 20, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    Can you imagine a Bowe Medly like act or a Muse like act at a State Fair?

    YES! but it depends on the state. And Adam has shown that he understands differentiated instruction for audiences…

  235. In that twitpic drake isn’t wearing a tank top.he looks good.LOL

  236. And Adam has shown that he understands differentiated instruction for audiences’ ¦

    Differentiated Instructions? What’s your story?

  237. In that twitpic drake isn’t wearing a tank top.he looks good.LOL

    Luv,

    I noticed that too. What a difference?

  238. readon
    September 20, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    And Adam has shown that he understands differentiated instruction for audiences’ ¦

    Differentiated Instruction? What’s your story?

    ??? I don’t understand the question, readon.

  239. Differentiated Instruction? What’s your story?

    That sounds so scientific. It sounds like something one would expect to read in an abstact of a research journal. Just wondering.

  240. I’ve read articles that women are more likely to use exclamation points than men.

    That’s not true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Are you telling me what I’ve read?

  241. Donorschose at a little over $195,000. I wonder if the fan clubs are going to get to $200k. A little less than 2.5 hours to go. It’s a good cause. I hope no one is over extending themselves.

  242. I’ve read articles that women are more likely to use exclamation points than men.

    That’s not true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Are you telling me what I’ve read?

    It was an attempt at humor. See all the exclamation points I used? Never mind.

  243. Aimee Mayo tweeted: Dear God in Heaven please let Adam Lambert cut my song tonight. He in in Denver with Ryan and I am in Tennessee FREAKING OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Poor woman, she is desperate! (and she likes exclamation points too haha)

  244. awwwwwwww I LOVE aimee mayo<3

    I hope her song is used even if it sux because she actually cares.cough cough kevin griffin or whatever his name is;)

  245. I too ‘ ¦ suffer from ‘ ¦ ‘dot’s disease’ ‘ ¦ but I ‘ ¦ have always called it ‘ ¦ ‘ellipsisitis’. It can be deadly.

    ooo your’s makes mine sound rather common .. I’m impressed … lol

  246. GOODNIGHT!!!!!!!!:D

    Can’t wait for liiiiive like were dying heh

  247. Readon

    Kradamour is a teacher.

    Thank you New Fan. I was impressed by the vocabulary and the description was so accurate.

  248. It was an attempt at humor. See all the exclamation points I used? Never mind.

    I got it Will. Oh, excuse me …

    OMFG!!!!!!!! I so totally got that!!!!!!

    And yes, I’ve also read that women are much more predisposed to exclamation points.

    And to those Cook fans, I so want to apologize for not representing at Taste of Newport today. I so wanted to go, but it just didn’t work out. I know he’ll kill.

    BTW, the bartender at the hotel I was staying in this weekend = Nearly dead ringer for Cook. He was a doll. I finally said, “Tell me the truth, you get David Cook all the time, right?” He laughed and said, “All the time.”

  249. Is it an iPhone thing that reverses our comments with the block quotes?

  250. I’m not sure w.hat “thinking big” means. I could see Adam doing a radio tour in support of a Top 40 hit, playing Jingle Balls, etc. (although that’s more a Jive venue). He could also start by doing a cabaret type tour in venues like the Hard Rock. My best guess is opening act on a big tour.

    However, that all depends on how his single does. And if he isn’t the greatest thing in Idol history, I hope some of his overheated fans will be ready to eat crow as well. Or will they be playing the managing expectations game and say he has some success. No point in comparing him to Carrie or Daughtry (they play state fairs you know).

  251. perhaps we need some sort of support group that deals with over punctuation .. it could have sub groups depending on our particular addiction, like “capitalisation anonymous”, “exclaimation anonymous”, “ellipsisitis anonymous”

    According to the Urban Dictionary the over uses of “lol” is apparently called “lollage”

    Lollage

    The overuse of using the phrase lol. Can also be used as a form of enjoyment towards lollies.

    “I like lollage” – form of enjoying lollies.
    “Oh my god, you’ve got the lollage” – overuse of using the phrase lol

    which is appropriate for me as I also like lollies.

  252. NewFan
    September 20, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    Kradamour is a teacher.

    Sometimes.

    But readon, “differentiated instruction” is one of many buzzwords in education these days, and I know it because of my son, whose teachers threw it around a lot. He is gifted (whatever that means) and so his teachers had to “differentiate” between his instruction and that of his classmates after they closed the magnet gifted program.

    It also applies to challenged populations in classes where they are mainstreamed.

    I guess only a parent or a teacher would have caught the reference. I have heard it so many times from his teachers that it is automatic for me. Sorry if it was confusing. But you made it sound cool and interesting!

  253. I’m not sure w.hat ‘thinking big’  means. I could see Adam doing a radio tour in support of a Top 40 hit, playing Jingle Balls, etc. (although that’s more a Jive venue). He could also start by doing a cabaret type tour in venues like the Hard Rock. My best guess is opening act on a big tour.

    Yeah, this. Adam is gonna do small clubs if anything, but given his genre he will most likely open for someone bigger.

  254. readon
    September 20, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    Can you imagine a Bowe Medly like act or a Muse like act at a State Fair?

    Hi all, today was football day and I’ve been celebrating. Yesterday LSU won a meaningless game but still won, today the N.O. Saints won big.

    I digress, err, ahh, well Hell No I cannot see/imagine a Bowie Medley, Starlight, Muse, etc. going over well at most State Fairs!!! It’s not that Adam is too good to sing at a State Fair, I’m not a Stepford Fan or a “overheated fan”, but what would he sing at said State Fair??? Carrie sings Country and Kelly has been known to sing a lot of Country. I can see grunge rock going over well at State Fairs and some pop or Country/Pop. But not the stuff Adam sings. I hope Friday is the absolute last time he has to sing with nothing but an acoustic guitar to accompany him – just a piano yes, just an acoustic guitar, Hell No!

    Small clubs, yes, opening act, yes.

  255. Hi Susan M

    hit b-quote
    insert quotation
    hit b-quote

    and then comment …

    karenw
    better sign me up for all of those groups

    luv
    sleep well

    jpfan
    I’ll eat crow if I’m wrong … it might need some BBQ hot sauce though

  256. New Fan I’ll eat crow if I’m wrong ‘ ¦ it might need some BBQ hot sauce though

    Or some Louisiana Tabasco…sorry, I’m still working through the Drake issue…

  257. NewFan
    September 20, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    kradamour
    yes. yes. smoke it first and then the tabasco

    Actually deep fried like the Cajuns’ cook turkey, first marinaded in Cajun spices, then add the Tabasco.

  258. adamland… I actually agree with you in the sense state fairs are usually pretty family friendly. Adam doesn’t strike me as being a general audiences type act. Idols usually have name recognition and music-appropriateness across all age groups and that’s what makes them fair-friendly. But Adam will probably be raunchier than your average Idol alum. So yeah, I could see him being at casinos, small clubs and an opening act for a bigger performer. I don’t know abotu colleges.. his act may be too elaborate for that. We’ll see.

  259. But you made it sound cool and interesting!

    It was cool and interesting.

    My son (who is now 23) was also gifted. I know what you are going through. Charities like DonorsChose are great for reaching those types of students. Everything came so easy for my son, that he became lazy. It wasn’t until he found theater in high school that he hit his stride. He stopped coasting because if he didn’t make his grades, he couldn’t act in the plays. He became a completely different student and he loved being on the stage.

  260. “undercooked
    September 20, 2009 at 7:11 pm
    It’s a review of the Pink concert with Adam and Drake name-dropped at the beginning and a little at the end. Maybe this is why we’re wary of him taking a date to an awards show’ ¦. heh.

    Agreed. He’s got to make sure is personal life doesn’t get more buzz than his professional life. It’s early days in his career, but as time goes on, he will have to be more guarded.”

    Adam may think that now that he’s back in LA and out of the Idol bubble that he can do whatever he pleases – and I guess he can but there might be some big consequences if he does! I agree with clearone, there is definitely a time and place for everything and Adam should think about that. I know he hasn’t seen Drake in a long time, but jeez….use some common sense!

  261. Here’s a cool link – this blog has a little poll for your favorite moment on David Cook’s tour so far. There are links to about 10 different youtube videos of various excellent performances. They are a good selection for anyone even vaguely (if not ardently) interested in what last year’s Idol has been up to
    http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-11673-DC-Concerts-Examiner~y2009m9d20-David-Cook-to-play-the-National-but-until-then-you-can-vote-for-his-most-memorable-tour-moment-Poll

    Editing to say I’m finding it hard, very hard, to choose just one from that list of video moments.

  262. tinawina
    September 20, 2009 at 11:16 pm

    adamland’ ¦ I actually agree with you in the sense state fairs are usually pretty family friendly. Adam doesn’t strike me as being a general audiences type act. Idols usually have name recognition and music-appropriateness across all age groups and that’s what makes them fair-friendly. But Adam will probably be raunchier than your average Idol alum. So yeah, I could see him being at casinos, small clubs and an opening act for a bigger performer. I don’t know abotu colleges.. his act may be too elaborate for that. We’ll see.

    Thanks tinawina, that is why I asked what would he sing? I agree, State Fairs? Problem. The college circuit – question mark. Clusb, dance clubs, casinos, etc. he would not look or sound out of place. He will need an excellent manager to figure all of this out.

  263. @J_SKINS: I gotta lot of work to do. Adam Lambert is cutting vox on a track I did today called “Obsession” oh yeah!11 minutes ago from TweetDeck

    New song??

  264. adamland-

    I digress, err, ahh, well Hell No I cannot see/imagine a Bowie Medley, Starlight, Muse, etc. going over well at most State Fairs!!! It’s not that Adam is too good to sing at a State Fair, I’m not a Stepford Fan or a ‘overheated fan’ , but what would he sing at said State Fair??? Carrie sings Country and Kelly has been known to sing a lot of Country. I can see grunge rock going over well at State Fairs and some pop or Country/Pop. But not the stuff Adam sings.

    I was the one who originally posted that I hoped Adam didn’t do the fair circuit, and left it at that.
    Thanks for your comment. It’s exactly what I was thinking. I just did not elaborte.

  265. Do we have any evidence other than this one story that there was serious “making out” at the Pink concert? The tweets Friday night sounded more like an occasional kiss (usually refered to as “cute” or with “aawww”). If that was the case, it doesn’t seem terribly inapproriate for a concert.

  266. Adam may think that now that he’s back in LA and out of the Idol bubble that he can do whatever he pleases ‘“ and I guess he can but there might be some big consequences if he does! I agree with clearone, there is definitely a time and place for everything and Adam should think about that. I know he hasn’t seen Drake in a long time, but jeez’ ¦.use some common sense!

    Gosh, making out, so scandalous. If he keeps this up, he may ruin his family friendly image for good :(

  267. Adamland – the “Drake issue” is just Drake, nothing specific. He being an issue. Smoking, tank top, tattoos, whatever.

    Clearone – good point that Adam may feel “safe” in LA. Witness his “get up and dance, bitches!” at the concert there.

    tinawina – good point re state fair acts usually being more, um, family friendly than Adam. But he can be family friendly if need be, without loss of integrity. Still, good point.

    readon – you are living my life. Son 22, totally unmotivated after end of gifted program, I forced him into our International Bac program…still nothing. Everything was too easy, no study skills. (good news is that he just graduated from college, found his niche.) Younger son…more of the same. He just discovered crew, though, like your son found drama, and his whole life has changed. Totally focused and motivated! You never know what it will take. Kudos to you for supporting your son and helping him to find what clicked for him.

    Does your son’s experience with theater have any bearing on your feelings about Adam? It sounds as though there is a real parallel there.

  268. karenw: …which is appropriate for me as I also like lollies

    :-)

  269. HoppersSkippersMiners
    September 20, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    karenw: ‘ ¦which is appropriate for me as I also like lollies

    To the amusement and advantage of us all! welcome back, Hoppers.

  270. CindyM: Donorschoose.org Adam challenge just went over $200,000!!

    YEA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

  271. ivyrae
    September 20, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    Sonic Lobotomy, Strut, Obsession’ ¦’ ¦.sounding good!!!!

    Hmmm…not really State Fair material, even in Nevada…

  272. Gosh, making out, so scandalous. If he keeps this up, he may ruin his family friendly image for good

    It’s not about being family friendly. It’s about being a tacky celebrity. Do you honestly want him turning into the likes of Britney in public? If they needed to make out so badly, they probably should have skipped the concert.

  273. KrisAllen4RealAlright peeps. Single coming out tomorrow! Dreamed of this day for a long time. Congrats Bruce Gowers on the Emmy.
    4 minutes ago from Echofon

  274. I’m not a Stepford Fan or a ‘overheated fan’ , but what would he sing at said State Fair??? Carrie sings Country and Kelly has been known to sing a lot of Country. I can see grunge rock going over well at State Fairs and some pop or Country/Pop. But not the stuff Adam sings.

    Small clubs, yes, opening act, yes.

    I agree with you. It’s not that Adam is “too big” for a state fair, but his vibe doesn’t seem to compute with the state fair atmosphere. Granted, if Katy Perry does them (and I know BEP did one near my mother’s place), then maybe he will fit in with some. Otherwise, he doesn’t seem state fair material. Like you said, small clubs and an opening act? Yeah, quite easily. I’m not expecting him to sell out arenas, but venues that are appropriate are more than just audience size.

  275. [laugh] I gotta say, I didn’t think the $200K was going to happen. Holy crap!! ~$79K from ONTD_AI alone!!

    Congratulations to all who contributed. Congratulations to all the students who are getting art and music supplies this year. Lastly, congratulations, Adam, for picking such a great cause run by a organization with a damned good track record – making it easy for everyone to get behind you.

    Everyone’s done good! [imagine applauding smiley here] :grin:

  276. Hurray for Adam and his fans!
    In addition to his $200K + raised for DonorsChoose…

    He will be directly helping over 78,600 students with the items donated!

    Oh, and let’s not forget the over $32,000 donated by his fans to MusiCares, his other charity!

    WOW!!!

  277. Adam may think that now that he’s back in LA and out of Idol bubble that he can do whatever he pleases ‘“ and I guess he can but there might be some big consequences if he does! I agree with clearone, there is definitely a time and place for everything and Adam should think about that. I know he hasn’t seen Drake in a long time, but jeez’ ¦.use some common sense”

    Celebrity is a hard and tricky thing. What ends up being good? What ends up being bad? Adam is charting new ground here. Sometimes just being talked about is good if you can deliver something quality afterwards; sometimes that isn’t the case.

    Fame is a hard world to negotiate, so maybe you just “sensibly” do your own thing and learn as you go. Adam definitely doesn’t seem one to hold back. My guess is he’ll be learning as he goes.

  278. LOL…I just donated $50 on behalf of ONTD_AI for some Adam Glittery Desktop Backgrounds and animated icons. :)

    Was gonna make the donation anyway, but they offered!

  279. Clearone, we don’t always agree on what is appropriate, but I have to say that at this point in Adam’s career, I would be concerned if his private life were to overcome his nascent music career, a la Britney.
    Key word is nascent. Until his music dominates the spotlight, it would be the better part of valor to keep his personal life in the wings or backstage.

  280. Granted, if Katy Perry does them (and I know BEP did one near my mother’s place), then maybe he will fit in with some.

    Most of BEP’s repertiore is, surprisingly, pretty family friendly. LOL. Fergie’s solo stuff not so much. I would imagine only the biggest fairs could afford BEP though.

    Now Katy Perry I would not have pegged, since her signature hit is about kissing girls and all. heh. But I guess the rest of her radio stuff is not so bad. Do you know which states booked her? I’m intrigued.

  281. kradamour
    September 20, 2009 at 11:38 pm
    ivyrae
    September 20, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    Sonic Lobotomy, Strut, Obsession’ ¦’ ¦.sounding good!!!!

    Hmmm’ ¦not really State Fair material, even in Nevada’ ¦

    EXACTLY!!!!!……..!!!!!!!!………

  282. Calliope
    September 20, 2009 at 11:41 pm

    I agree with you. It’s not that Adam is ‘too big’  for a state fair, but his vibe doesn’t seem to compute with the state fair atmosphere. Granted, if Katy Perry does them (and I know BEP did one near my mother’s place), then maybe he will fit in with some. Otherwise, he doesn’t seem state fair material. Like you said, small clubs and an opening act? Yeah, quite easily. I’m not expecting him to sell out arenas, but venues that are appropriate are more than just audience size.

    Adam would probably be OK at the larger ones. Katy Perry can fit in as her set is fun to watch and she does not dance like Adam and the BEP sing dirty lyrics but do they dance like Adam? Like I said he needs an excellent manager who will know exactly when and where he will fit in for booking gigs.

  283. Whenever people suggest a venue for Adam Lambert, I close my eyes and try to imagine it. Big voice, blue leather and studs and all. Any real ‘ ¦ likely suggestions? I think he needs to open for a large act that isn’t afraid of being upstaged.

    This!

  284. KrisAllen4RealAlright peeps. Single coming out tomorrow! Dreamed of this day for a long time. Congrats Bruce Gowers on the Emmy.
    4 minutes ago from Echofon

    Awww! I keep going from being excited to nervous and then back to excited again. I’m not a morning person at all, but I think I will have to set the alarm a little early tomorrow.

    That number for DonorsChoose is amazing!! Both of my parents were public school teachers in an area where a lot of students were less fortunate and I think this is such a wonderful charity.

    I donated yesterday under ONTD_AI and was shocked to see that they had pretty much completed all the projects they were donating too.

  285. I can see grunge rock going over well at State Fairs and some pop or Country/Pop. But not the stuff Adam sings.

    You know, if his album is mostly pop and ballads it’s not impossible.

  286. HotHotHot
    September 20, 2009 at 11:51 pm

    I can see grunge rock going over well at State Fairs and some pop or Country/Pop. But not the stuff Adam sings.

    You know, if his album is mostly pop and ballads it’s not impossible.

    If he stands still or sits or a stool yes, but can you really see Adam doing that for a year or more??? He would go stir crazy and be bored to death. So would I.

  287. KrisAllen4RealAlright peeps. Single coming out tomorrow! Dreamed of this day for a long time. Congrats Bruce Gowers on the Emmy.
    4 minutes ago from Echofon

    That’s too cute. I hope his single is a smash hit, even though I don’t like it.

  288. Sherena
    September 20, 2009 at 11:53 pm

    KrisAllen4RealAlright peeps. Single coming out tomorrow! Dreamed of this day for a long time. Congrats Bruce Gowers on the Emmy.
    4 minutes ago from Echofon

    That’s too cute. I hope his single is a smash hit, even if I don’t like it.

    DITTO.

  289. If they needed to make out so badly, they probably should have skipped the concert.

    Smooching a bit with your boyfriend after not having seen him a lot for months, before you’re going to have to go off to work, Adam went to the studio early and went to Denver the next day, is not unreasonable. There is no reason why Adam would have to stay home and not be allowed to kiss his significant other once and a while, at a concert. Not like they were doing anything ~scandalous, unless it’s ~scandalous that it was two guys. Adam was also, according to the blogger, the first one up cheering in his section, so not like all he was doing was making out and nuzzling his s.o.

    But yeah, it’s a Pink concert, it’s a big deal concert, Adam loves Pink and apparently got to go backstage and meet her, and he was having to work, and leave town soon. So what’s wrong with deciding to go the the concert because it’s something he wanted to do, and doesn’t have time for otherwise, and as part of that, doing some occasional kissing with his s.o.? if he was doing only that with a girl, like if it was Kris with his wife occasionally kissing her and being affectionate with her, it wouldn’t matter. And not like it made the evening news or that the paps were really all over it. There were some Tweets and random online/blog mentions, eh.

  290. Does your son’s experience with theater have any bearing on your feelings about Adam? It sounds as though there is a real parallel there.

    Not really. I can guarantee that when I heard ROF I was not thinking about my son. I just thought that Adam was an amazing performer. Later in the Adam interviews, I saw a lot of the parallels.

  291. Most of BEP’s repertiore is, surprisingly, pretty family friendly. LOL. Fergie’s solo stuff not so much. I would imagine only the biggest fairs could afford BEP though.

    Now Katy Perry I would not have pegged, since her signature hit is about kissing girls and all. heh. But I guess the rest of her radio stuff is not so bad. Do you know which states booked her? I’m intrigued.

    I see what you mean about BEP being family-friendly if they don’t raunch it up(and, for what it’s worth, they played the Orange County State Fair in California, so I don’t know if it the norm for them). I don’t know who has booked Katy Perry though, but I saw her mentioned in this thread as playing them. I’d think she’d have to tone it down as well. I’m also curious as to which states booked her.

  292. I think it’s hysterical that Cookie has turned into a tweeting fool!!! (See, there are my girly exclamation points!!!) He is doing well for someone who only got on Twitter a couple (?) weeks ago.

  293. So what’s wrong with deciding to go the the concert because it’s something he wanted to do, and doesn’t have time for otherwise, and as part of that, doing some occasional kissing with his s.o.? if he was doing only that with a girl, like if it was Kris with his wife occasionally kissing her and being affectionate with her, it wouldn’t matter. And not like it made the evening news or that the paps were really all over it. There were some Tweets and random online/blog mentions, eh.

    Thanks, I agree entirely Truthiness.

  294. karenw: ‘ ¦which is appropriate for me as I also like lollies

    kradamour: To the amusement and advantage of us all! welcome back, Hoppers.

    [bows] Thank you, thank you. [snerk]

    Would have been back sooner, but – as I predicted earlier – allowing my daughter to nap extra long this afternoon so I could get my blogging jonesing in did indeed result in a hyper-perky 2-year old who didn’t stop bouncing around until about an hour ago. (I put her to bed. Really!….lots of times! [sigh]). Although I also maintain she might have slept sooner had my husband not been screaming at the football game.

    Seriously, Idol obsession has NOTHING on most guys’ sports obsessions. I may have been bitterly disappointed on finale night, but *I* didn’t wander around the house for hours (or days) afterwards kicking the walls and muttering under my breath.

    At least not as loudly!!! :grin:

  295. Donorschoose.org – up to $206,187 – 1,804 donors – 79,968 students reached.

    God damn, thank you Adam for suggesting the charity (in between making out with your boyfriend).

  296. So what’s wrong with deciding to go the the concert because it’s something he wanted to do, and doesn’t have time for otherwise, and as part of that, doing some occasional kissing with his s.o.? if he was doing only that with a girl, like if it was Kris with his wife occasionally kissing her and being affectionate with her, it wouldn’t matter.

    These are exactly my thoughts on the matter! I’m just so happy for Adam and Drake that they seemed to have so much fun reuniting. I’ll bet they were adorable!

  297. KrisAllen4RealAlright peeps. Single coming out tomorrow! Dreamed of this day for a long time. Congrats Bruce Gowers on the Emmy. 4 minutes ago from Echofon

    So was there a general “yes” or “no” to the plaid carpetbag? I have to remember when I asked….

  298. Now Katy Perry I would not have pegged, since her signature hit is about kissing girls and all. heh. But I guess the rest of her radio stuff is not so bad. Do you know which states booked her? I’m intrigued.

    Katy played the Oregon State Fair. IIRC she played the night before David did.

    I think it’s hysterical that Cookie has turned into a tweeting fool!!!

    He’s more like a tweeting maniac today LOL Me thinks Mr. ‘Twitter is absurd and useless” is a little past using it for PR purposes :)

    I’m so excited for Kris. I work literally right around the corner from the Clear Channel studios and I did consider heading there to show some support but I have to be in work early for a meeting BOO! I noticed Z100’s Elvis Duran tweeted twice about Kris debuting the song, called it the world premiere.

  299. Although I also maintain she might have slept sooner had my husband not been screaming at the football game.

    Seriously, Idol obsession has NOTHING on most guys’ sports obsessions. I may have been bitterly disappointed on finale night, but *I* didn’t wander around the house for hours (or days) afterwards kicking the walls and muttering under my breath.

    As a female football/soccor nut I beg to differ. I almost burst my best friend’s ear drum this afternoon while on the phone. The Saints scored their last TD and I could no longer contain my enthusiasm. I yell louder than my son most of the time – he laughs at me if we are at a sports bar. If my team does poorly, God help anyone for days afterward. Don’t get me started on the playoffs!

  300. Yes it would matter. There’s a time and a place whether you are straight, gay, lesbian or bi.

    I’m with clearone on this. I celebrate the fact that Adam is being true to himself, however that does not excuse him from general etiquette.

    I tried to stay away from this, but the slope is slippery. Maybe I am jjust a b—tch, but if my SO had been away for weeks, we woudl not be at a concert. Especially, if he had to go out of town in a couple of days.

  301. I was at the PINK concert at Staples. I would say that probably 60-70% of the audience were gay/lesbian couples. I am not exaggerating and I am not making assumptions. They were people who are “out.” I had no idea that PINK had such a large gay/lesbian fanbase. My daughters and I and straight couples were the exception, instead of the rule. I would say Adam and Drake fit in perfectly and except for the fact that he was famous, no one would have even noticed him or bat an eye.

  302. HoppersSkippersMiners
    September 21, 2009 at 12:08 am
    KrisAllen4RealAlright peeps. Single coming out tomorrow! Dreamed of this day for a long time. Congrats Bruce Gowers on the Emmy. 4 minutes ago from Echofon

    So was there a general ‘yes’  or ‘no’  to the plaid carpetbag? I have to remember when I asked’ ¦.

    My answer was nay. Gonna be at work early tomorrow. I’m not sure what the general consensus was. I’m peeved at the Chris Sligh thread so not feeling very party-like right now anyway.

  303. Re the occasional kiss/making out/whatever it was at the Pink concert – I think that perhaps some of us (me included) are being protective, which is not a bad thing. I cannot imagine Adam’s life if he does not become the star he truly deserves to become. Doomsday scenario.
    I think that a younger person – teens, twenties – sees the PDA differently than those of us who could have a son the age of an Idol. With age comes caution. And for many people, again more older than younger, there is still a HUGE ‘ick’ factor when two men kiss. (My son is gay, and there is a big difference in response to that by my friends, depending upon the age of the friend)
    Not sure I expressed this well. I am tired.
    Okay, this senior citizen (well, not really) is off to bed. G’night, peeps.

    ETA – just saw the above post re the large number of gay/bi/lesbian couples at the Pink concert.
    Definitely a mitigating circumstance.

  304. My last comment (ha!) on donorschoose:

    I initially wanted the challenge to go over $100K because it seemed like a nice round number that 1) showed how much support Adam had from people approving his decision to make “arts in public schools” his cause, and 2) showed support towards Adam himself.

    I then wanted the challenge to go over $120K because (shallowly, I’ll fully admit) I wanted Adam’s contributions to be more than the $120K Carrie Underwood gave to Oklahoma schools.

    I then dreamed that the challenge would hit $200K. At this point not for Adam at all, but for all the schools who were honestly getting the equipment, instruments, and supplies they simply would never had been able to obtain otherwise. I helped out on two different projects, neither which would have EVER seen funding in any other way.

    The letters and messages I received from the projects I assisted with, in my small way, were absolutely heartwarming. Drops of water really did turn into rivers of support. I am honestly, and truly, happy to have been a part of this. :-)

  305. I don’t see any reason to believe Adam is too big to play a similar mix of venues on his first tour (assuming he headlines out of the gate).

    I don’t think the majority of posters on here thought he was too “BIG” to play those types of venues. More that his act might not “fit”. My personal prediction is that Adam will open for someone else or do small club venues/casinos to start if he does do a solo tour. At this point, it’s all up in the air.

  306. I could see if Adam and Drake went to the see Fantasia in the Color Purple, for example, and kissed and canoodled during parts of the show. Now that I would agree that Adam wasn’t following accepted eitquettte. Rock concerts? Etiquette? Yeah, no.

    In general, I agree with you. The difference is that we are not public figures. Our PDAs don’t get broadcasted across the internet, blogs gossip magazines and TV. We may be ok with the good times, but how are we going to feel if this all goes down the tubes in a very public way. Public people need to keep their personal lives private.

  307. NewFan
    September 21, 2009 at 12:24 am
    like if it was Kris with his wife occasionally kissing her and being affectionate with her, it wouldn’t matter.

    Kris and Katy kissing in public? Somehow I can’t quite see that happening.

    I’ll be honest, I’ve never even seen them look at each as affectionately as Adam and Drake are doing in those pics above, at least not since the show started.

  308. tinawina
    September 21, 2009 at 12:20 am

    Eh. Nobody got nekkid. I’m cool with it.

    chuckle! glad I stayed around long enough to read that before I shut down the computer…

  309. I only know Katy Perry from some of her videos. And the ones that I’ve seen are all fun and funny and, in some ways, almost cartoonish. She’d be great for family friendly venues.

  310. I don’t see any reason to believe Adam is too big to play a similar mix of venues on his first tour (assuming he headlines out of the gate).

    I think the argument wasn’t that Adam would be too big for state fairs, people said small clubs, opening people they could see, it was more the type of material that Adam would do, and the audience of state fairs, might not be the best match. I don’t have an opinion on it either way at this point, but it wasn’t Adam would be too “big,” for them, just maybe not the best fit musically. But hey, if Katy Perry is doing them, than maybe that will change the minds of people who argued against it.

    Meanwhile that Tweet from Kris…so excited about his single being debuted in less than 12 hours! Yay! I hope I like it more upon hearing the whole thing, and even if I don’t, that it’s a big success. :D

  311. ladymadonna
    September 21, 2009 at 12:23 am

    In the past year, Katy Perry has played the following fairs/festivals according to her website:

    LA County Fair (Pomona)
    Ventura County Fair
    Utah State Fair
    St, Johns County Agricultural Fair (Jacksonville FL)
    Osheaga Music & Arts Festival (Montreal)
    Sasquatch Festival (Quincy, WA)
    Oregon State Fair

    There are probably more but I just took a quick scan through her past tour dates. She’s also played all the Six Flags parks, a bunch of racetracks, and a lot of the same small and mid-size clubs, casinos, and theaters that Cook has played on his Declaration Tour (ShoBox Seattle, Nokia Theater NYC, Borgata Music Box, a bunch of different HOB’s, the Fillmore, etc.). I don’t see any reason to believe Adam is too big to play a similar mix of venues on his first tour (assuming he headlines out of the gate).

    I never said Adam was too big to play state fairs, just would his type of performance fit in? Idol tour was pushing it a bit, but state fairs? It makes a difference. Were they all huge fairs in fairly modern/urban areas? And I agreed small clubs, venues, dance clubs, etc.

    Katy Perry does not move/dance like Adam and you really can’t expect him to just stand still or sit on a stool for his whole concert. It just about killed him to do it for 1:30 one night a week on t.v. for Idol.

    I’d skip the idea of the Utah Fair – he wouldn’t leave his hotel until it was time to go to the arena, forget being at a fair.

  312. Well there’s nothing adorable about Drake IMO and if that clouds my judgement so be it. Whether it’s Drake or the latest Hollywood starlet, it’s in bad taste IMO.

    We’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one. I think Drake and Adam make an exceptionally cute couple, partly because I find them both very attractive in their own ways, but mostly because they just seem so happy together. Their obvious joy at being together is really attractive to me. I also don’t feel that a Pink concert is an inappropriate place for them to be publically expressing affection. If they were at, say, the opera, I might have a different opinion. A Pink concert would attract a pretty young crowd overall, I would imagine, so he was basically just hanging out among peers in his own hometown. I think that’s a perfectly acceptable place to be himself.

  313. Newfan
    This is so random and OT but ‘ ¦ remember the time when Seinfeld got caught kissing his girlfriend at the back of a theater showing Schindler’s List?

    Sorry it just popped into my mind and I couldn’t keep it there.

    LOL…I almost typed “C’mon, people it’s not like it was at a matinee of Schindler’s List”!! GMTA

  314. In general, I agree with you. The difference is that we are not public figures. Our PDAs don’t get broadcasted across the internet, blogs gossip magazines and TV. We may be ok with the good times, but how are we going to feel if this all goes down the tubes in a very public way. Public people need to keep their personal lives private.

    I have to agree with this. Adam has to realize his life has changed and everything he does will be analyzed. It’s best to keep the emotional stuff close to the vest, just for his own protection. Also Drake is NOT a public figure, so things really should be kept on the low key. Drake doesn’t have a PR team that will help him navigate the media if things hit the fan…ala Cook and Caldwell.

  315. In general, I agree with you. The difference is that we are not public figures. Our PDAs don’t get broadcasted across the internet, blogs gossip magazines and TV. We may be ok with the good times, but how are we going to feel if this all goes down the tubes in a very public way. Public people need to keep their personal lives private.

    They were kissing at a rock concert, I’m not seeing how their PDA would be thought of as inappropriate or worthy of being in the blogs (beyond remarking on it with a awwww, as it got) or YouTubes and how would that be any worse for Adam than all the pictures with him tongue kissing Brad? And Adam and Brad looked a LOT more wild than Drake and Adam looked at the Pink concert. Now if they started having sex in public, than they need to worry about PDA and being public figures. But even public figures are allowed to kiss and cuddle in public once and a while. Especially rock type stars are given more leeway, we don’t expect them to be politicans, or anything. But even the President is allowed to hold hands while in public once and awhile, or dip his wife while dancing with her. So I think Adam and Drake kissing while seeing Pink, were fine.

  316. I only know Katy Perry from some of her videos. And the ones that I’ve seen are all fun and funny and, in some ways, almost cartoonish. She’d be great for family friendly venues.

    Perhaps. I think the lesson here is it all depends on the material. Katy can tone done her act for her venue, becuse other than Kissed a Girl her material leaves some leeway. Lady Gaga not so much. Her whole stage show is about OTT performance art, disturbing the status quo. So if Adam does the positive, upbeat life affirming stuff he says he’s gonna do he may end up state fair appropriate after all. But if he goes the way of envelope pushing and sexiness that he’s also mentioned, then he may not go that route.

    Hmm… I wonder if GaGa did any fairs? That will probably tell us all there is to know.

    I just want that updated Depeche Mode thing. LOL. That is so perfect. Please 19, don’t screw it up!

  317. That’s exactly how I feel. I want him to fulfill all of his dreams, including being in control of his own life and being happy.

    Isn’t that what we all want? But we all have to navigate the PC rules…..like no making out with your hubby at the office Christmas party. Adam, when he is in public, has to navigate the same waters. He isn’t exempt…or restricted. The issue with Adam is that he is a public figure, so when in public, whether he likes it or not…he is still somewhat on the clock.

  318. Cindy M

    … two people … one brain wave …

    … and it’s a mighty fine brain wave at that …

  319. They were kissing at a rock concert, I’m not seeing how their PDA would be thought of as inappropriate or worthy of being in the blogs or YouTubes

    lol yeah, seriously. A celeb kissing someone at a rock concert is not news to the gossip world.

    Kissing while BLOOD poured forth from their mouths… maybe.

  320. how would that be any worse for Adam than all the pictures with him tongue kissing Brad?

    All done, to my knowledge, at gay outings, gay clubs, private parties. And before he was ‘in the public eye” so to speak.

    I am not condemning any of the above, just for the record.

  321. I have spent many nights this past summer with my 16 year old daughter and her friends at various concerts. Fall out Boy, Blink 182, and a handful of up and coming groups who played/shared smaller venues.
    Not a whole lot has changed in the past 20yrs as far as PDA at a concert. Its more intense in that atmosphere. Adreniline is pumping, maby a drink or 2. But for the most part, those ppl are not displaying the same higher level of PDA in the mall or a restaurant.

  322. Lot’s of Adam news today! (And I do not really care if Adam kissed Drake at a Pink concert. Nor would anyone who actually was at a Pink concert in LA.)

    1. Glad that Aimee tweeted confirmation that “Biggest Regret” was for Rascal Flatt not Adam. Did not like that title for Adam!!

    2. Even more excited that Adam is recording a song titled “Obsession”. Sounds much more fitting for Adam.

    J_SKINS Back in the country again, and I gotta lot of work to do. Adam Lambert is cutting vox on a track I did today called “Obsession” oh yeah!

    J_SKINS is Jerrod Bettis who was the drummer with One Republic and works a lot with Ryan Tedder.

    3. Greg Wells is now listing Adam Lambert as a credit on his website:

    http://www.gregwells.net/
    Adam Lambert – new album (to be released late 2009)
    Producer, Mixer, Co-Writer, Multiple Instruments

    Greg Wells has produced and mixed Mika, OneRepublic, Pink, Rufus Wainwright, Natasha Bedingfield, and others.

    4. DonorsChoose.org over $200K!!! YES!! Right now: $207,209!!!

  323. Sherena,

    “Kissing while BLOOD poured forth from their mouths’ ¦ maybe.”

    Thanks for the nice image to put into my dreams. I’m going to need my nightlight tonight and if I have a nightmare, I will blame you.

  324. Lot’s of Adam news today! (And not I do really care if Adam kissed Drake at a Pink concert. Nor would anyone who actually was at a Pink concert in LA.)

    Except for the reviewer writing about the Pink concert who mentioned it at the top of his/her article.

  325. Sherena,

    Thanks for the nice image to put into my dreams tonight. If I have a nightmare, I will blame you.

    lol. I was inspired by Lady Gaga :)

  326. Q3, it’s like you read my mind. I was sooooo Bored Now [/Dark Willow voice] with the other stuff that I was going to talk about the stuff I’m actually excited about…news about Adam’s music.

    And yeah, Obsession is kind of a generic title, but not bad and I could definitely see that as an Adam vibe. And I know that Ryan Tedder can be hack like, but he can create some good stuff, same for Greg Wells, so hopefully there can get some good stuff out of it. I can really see how Adam could work with Wells, given who else he’s worked with, so fingers crossed. Though Well has produced crap for previous AI people before, yes? Worrisome.

  327. I would agree with this if the celebrity in question WANTED to be private. So far, it appears to be part of Adam’s whole vibe to be very open about himself. His divulging all to Rolling Stone, for example, was very purposeful so he could carry on with his life as he wished without having to look over his shoulder

    To me, the issue isn’t about being straight or gay, but protecting your emotional self. I just don’t think Adam fully realizes his celebrity yet.

  328. Sherena
    September 21, 2009 at 12:47 am

    how would that be any worse for Adam than all the pictures with him tongue kissing Brad?

    All done, to my knowledge, at gay outings, gay clubs, private parties. And before he was ‘in the public eye’  so to speak.

    But that doesn’t matter. The fact is that the general internet gossip site frequenting public has seen those pictures and potential pictures of Drake and Adam kissing wouldn’t be anything new/ career harming.

    I answered a question and quite frankly I could give a rats ass who Adam kisses and what the hell Drake wears as I don’t personally know either and what they do or don’t do does not affect how I live my life. I just enjoy the hell out of listening to Adam speak, sing, laugh and perform on stage and t.v. and hopefully one day in the movies!

  329. Q3: Lot’s of Adam news today! (And I do not really care if Adam kissed Drake at a Pink concert. Nor would anyone who actually was at a Pink concert in LA.)

    undercooked: Except for the reviewer writing about the Pink concert who mentioned it at the top of his/her article.

    Yes, and once again, Adam figures out how to make everything he does a PR opportunity!! LOL! Adam also got mentioned in the LA Times Pink concert review — although not for kissing Drake:

    The show also included a handful of daring covers: Gnarls Barkley’s “Crazy,” the Divinyls’ “I Touch Myself,” Led Zeppelin’s version of the folk traditional “Babe I’m Gonna Leave You.” Delightfully dressed as a harlequin with an admiral’s cap, Pink even pulled off an impressive version of “Bohemian Rhapsody” by Queen that elicited a standing ovation from “American Idol” glamazon Adam Lambert, who took in the production alongside several other stars from a section near the stage.</blockquote>

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2009/09/live-review-pink-at-staples-center.html

    Note that there were several stars reported to be there, but only Adam gets mentioned.

  330. ivyrae
    September 21, 2009 at 12:53 am

    What happened to all the talk about’ ¦’ ¦..we dont care about Adams sexual orientation. We just want more music from him. Acceptance cant be halfway!!!!!

    ivyrae – See my post right above yours!

  331. I’m loving the song choices so far – Obsession, Strut…
    I have a feeling that Adam being the affectionate person that he is would see nothing wrong with some public affection, but at the same time being the professional and smart man that he seems to be would ensure that he wouldn’t indulge in any OTT PDA which might reflect badly on him. If anyone can navigate that fine line, he probably can. A lot of the examples mentioned, Britney, Lindsey, involved ‘flashing’ fueled by alcohol, drugs and mental health issues….

  332. What happened to all the talk about’ ¦’ ¦..we dont care about Adams sexual orientation. We just want more music from him. Acceptance cant be halfway!!!!!

    Sorry, I don’t see it as an acceptance issue, but rather a discussion about PDA and what is appropriate for a celebrity.

  333. is there a pic of Adam and Drake making out? Can anyone give me the link?

  334. Pink even pulled off an impressive version of ‘Bohemian Rhapsody’  by Queen that elicited a standing ovation from ‘American Idol’  glamazon Adam Lambert

    If I were a performer I would love having Adam in my audience. He seems like the most enthusiastic audience member ever. Alisan mentioned it in an article– how the first time she met Adam was when she was performing and he was in the audience going crazy for her.

  335. Sherena,
    Ok. I’ll blame Gaga. Actually, I usually like Gaga. But that’s gross. Is she scraping the bottom of the barrel because she’s running out of good stunts already. That’s sad.

    This goes back a ways up the thread … but …
    Kiss a Girl wasn’t fun and funny and ok for families?

  336. My thought was that we should start a little campaigne to get all of the top 40 and whatever that other type of station people think will play Kris’s music to actually play the music. I’ve already started sending out e-mails. I just googled top 40 stations, pulled up their webpages and asked them to please play Kris Allen’s brand new single. It may be too early; it may not mean a hill of beans to any of them; or with the power of many we may get a grass roots movemenet going. Who knows? Let them know we want to hear it ad nauseum. Or close to it, just shy of getting sick of it actually. That we will dance in our homes, in our cars, in the f’n streets, just play the darn thing.

    Fans do this kind of thing every year! Just make sure you learn the guidelines because it can backfire on you quickly. I don’t have time to type them all out. Someone around here should chime in shortly. Good luck!

  337. Q3, thanks for summarizing today’s good news on Adam.

    Donorschoose competition ends today. Do we know when the winner can have an interview with Adam?

  338. Sherena
    September 21, 2009 at 12:44 am
    They were kissing at a rock concert, I’m not seeing how their PDA would be thought of as inappropriate or worthy of being in the blogs or YouTubes

    lol yeah, seriously. A celeb kissing someone at a rock concert is not news to the gossip world.

    Kissing while BLOOD poured forth from their mouths’ ¦ maybe.

    Sherena, AGAIN, you made me clean off my computer screen…LMFAO

  339. How does it backfire? Oh, and I’m lame. I’ve only emailed 3 stations so far — the ones close to me and ryan Seacrest.

  340. Q3
    Thank you for the good news. There’s a lot of it!

    iluvai
    don’t be sad

  341. Finally:
    For all those who sneer at Adam fans for thinking big ‘ ¦ this Adam fan (I’ll talk for myself alone) suggests that you laugh all you like ‘ ¦ for now’ ¦ and then ‘ ¦ you should sit back ‘ ¦ and watch ‘ ¦ and get ready to eat crow.

    NewFan! Me and you, baby… me and you….

    Punctuate THAT!!!!!

  342. Hi Triskel4!

    Hey – a Kris fan! Thanks for delurkering. We *really* do want you here! [welcome hug]

    Honestly, don’t know about the e-mail campaign, though. OTT maybe?

    What do other people think?

  343. undercooked

    Sorry, I don’t see it as an acceptance issue, but rather a discussion about PDA and what is appropriate for a celebrity.

    Would it then be inappropriate for Brad to Kiss Angelina, or Tom to kiss Katie in public? IMO no. If tounges are are all over the place, then yes inappropriate. Even if it is Adam and Drake. And we really dont have any proof that it was anything more than a smooch. And that is no more than other celebs do in public.

  344. Truthiness: Though Well has produced crap for previous AI people before, yes? Worrisome.

    The past Idol’s music that was crap was MOR boring pop. And the last thing that I think Adam will do in MOR boring pop. He may be too OTT vocally, or push the boundaries of popular taste too far, or get too electro-pop, or put our some Euro-pop crap, or who the hell knows what else, but there is one thing for sure, Adam will not put out just another Idol album.

    And Greg Wells has done such nice work for Mika, Katy Perry, Pink (Funhouse) and so many others, that I think he’s a good fit for Adam.

    Some online comments that Greg Wells produced “Strut” but as far as I can tell that is unconfirmed. I believe the speculation is based on the fact that Wells worked with Kara on Kelly Clarkson’s “I Do Not Hook Up” but I didn’t find confirmation on that anywhere. Perhaps someone else has seen something on this.

  345. Anthrogeek:

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! etc. :lol:

  346. Guys! STOP SALIVATING FOR A SEC AND ANSWER TRISKEL4!!

    Geez, help a scared de-lurker out! :mrgreen: We were just complaining the other day that not enough Kris fans are posting here!!

    Good idea/bad idea. I think maybe OTT, but chime in!!

    (you can go back to Drake bashing after!) ;-)

  347. anthrogeek
    September 21, 2009 at 1:08 am
    Punctuate THAT!!!!!

    Can I just say, I love all of Adam’s !!!!!!!!!!!. It’s just another sign of the dork inside the cool exterior. It’s like reading Pink’s concert review. Some people zoned in on the nuzzling/kissing. I zoned in on the descriptions of the utter FANBOY Adam is and the excitement he had watching Pink perform. The fact that he’s not some jaded/too cool for school rockstar just reaffirms my stanning him. He’s exuberant, he’s joyful, he gets excited….I’m not surprised he kisses his boyfriend!!

  348. I went down the coast for the Taste of Newport event, so was offline most of today. Did I miss something? Why is this thread all about Adam and Drake kissing at the Pink concert…and why is that a big deal? I see lots of people making out at concerts, or at movies, etc. A Pink concert isn’t a family friendly event — so unless Adam & Drake were doing something inappropriate like giving each other BJs raight there in their seats, what is the uproar? Adam should realize by now he will be a target of the paps — he doesn’t seem to think being photographed kissing his boyfriend in public is a big deal. If it had been Kris & Katy instead of Adam & Drake, I doubt anyone would get upset about what supposedly was rather tame PDA. (and to those who don’t think the couple would display and PDA, didn’t I read something about Kris & Katy kissing in front of the fans at some m&g early in the tour?)

  349. NewFan
    September 21, 2009 at 1:11 am
    Anthrogeek:

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! etc.

    And with that, a good night, peeps. Here’s hoping that once Kris’ single has its moment in the sun over the next few days we’ll start to get more concrete news about when Adam’s will be released. With only a week between their CD releases, it can’t be too much longer…..

  350. I can’t stand it!!! I want someone to leak Adam’s song NOW!!!

  351. Yes it would matter. There’s a time and a place whether you are straight, gay, lesbian or bi.

    Are you saying no one should kiss in public? That’s hard for me to believe. It sounds like nit picking to me. I bet if Kris was caught kissing Katy you wouldn’t be complaining.

  352. Honestly, don’t know about the e-mail campaign, though. OTT maybe?

    What do other people think?

    I wasn’t really in the Idolverse during Season 2, but from what I understand that’s where the horror stories come from regarding the emailing and calling of radio stations. Apparently Clay’s fans did this (according to urban legend/folklore/historical documentation) and the radio stations got so annoyed they never played his records or took him seriously. The general theory is that AI contestants have a difficult time getting radio airplay as it is, to email/phone/spam them regarding said AI contestant just solidifies their view.

    I’m not sure I buy it, I never thought Clay’s music was radio-friendly, but like I said earlier, I wasn’t a fan and was only a very CASUAL watcher of AI at the time.

  353. Would it then be inappropriate for Brad to Kiss Angelina, or Tom to kiss Katie in public? IMO no. If tounges are are all over the place, then yes inappropriate. Even if it is Adam and Drake. And we really dont have any proof that it was anything more than a smooch. And that is no more than other celebs do in public.

    I agree wholeheartedly!

  354. girlygirl
    September 21, 2009 at 1:13 am
    I went down the coast for the Taste of Newport event, so was offline most of today.

    How was the event?? Was someone playing there??

  355. anthrogeek
    September 21, 2009 at 1:15 am

    NewFan
    September 21, 2009 at 1:11 am
    Anthrogeek:

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! etc.

    And with that, a good night, peeps. Here’s hoping that once Kris’ single has its moment in the sun over the next few days we’ll start to get more concrete news about when Adam’s will be released. With only a week between their CD releases, it can’t be too much longer’ ¦..

    Night anthro, I can only hope that a week and no more than two separates the release of Adam’s single from Kris’.

  356. ANSWER TRISKEL4
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  357. Allison’s latest tweets, looks like she’s headed back from Sweden.

    Out everyday xP
    about 1 hour ago from Echofon

    T.. I’m way exitedddd to see my fam. Dogs… And burrito that even though we hate eachother it’s jut not the same without him cussin me
    about 1 hour ago from Echofon

    It’s almost 6:30 am ova here.. I feel straight crazy.. But it is now time to go home.. Had a great time here .. Recorded some great shiiiiii
    about 1 hour ago from Echofon

    I love Allison, but I’m gonna have to unfollow her and rely on you all to give me news. Her tweets are just too hard to decipher for me, I think I’m too old for her.

  358. Oh. Hi Triskel4

    Please don’t re-lurk.

    Personally, I don’t see a problem with a couple of polite requests to radio stations in your area (emails, TMs, twitter and even phone calls) … and then, perhaps, ask friends to do the same in their regions too. But nothing similar to spamming. I’m sure that radio station personnel would never appreciate that.

    But I am not wise in the ways of the world. What say others?

    Night Anthrogeek.

  359. In general, I agree with you. The difference is that we are not public figures. Our PDAs don’t get broadcasted across the internet, blogs gossip magazines and TV. We may be ok with the good times, but how are we going to feel if this all goes down the tubes in a very public way. Public people need to keep their personal lives private.

    So celebreties shouldn’t hold hands, hug or kiss in public. (even if they are at a rock concert) Because what? It might get reported to the world that they were (gasp) kissing their partner.
    How are we going to feel if this goes public? What goes public? The fact that two grown adults kissed in public. Do you think that is shocking to people? Or do you think it is shocking that it is kissing in public between same-sex partners. Adam shouldn’t be expected to hide his relationship, and he has already shown that he is not going to.

  360. Um…does Allison have a brother? Who/what is the “cussin” burrito??

  361. HoppersSkippersMiners
    September 21, 2009 at 1:21 am
    ANSWER TRISKEL4
    ANSWER TRISKEL4
    ANSWER TRISKEL4
    ANSWER TRISKEL4
    ANSWER TRISKEL4

    I DID
    I DID
    I DID
    I DID

  362. Hi Triskel4!

    Hey ‘“ a Kris fan! Thanks for delurkering. We *really* do want you here! [welcome hug]

    Honestly, don’t know about the e-mail campaign, though. OTT maybe?

    What do other people think?

    I could be wrong, but I think it’s against the guidelines of the blog. I think mj is against the whole “street promotion,” thing happening here. I think that’s what tinawina was referring to in their post. I could be all wrong though. I did read the guidelines, f’reals! but it was a while ago. And I’m too cranky and tired right now to do so. Shopping at malls always justifies my general hatred for humanity.

  363. @Q3….Thanks for summarising all that great Adam news for me!

    As for the rest, I absolutely give a fuck not whether Adam smooches his boyfriend or not while he;s at a concert, Its his tongue and his mouth and his boyfriend! His life to live!

    And are there any actual pictures of him at the concert tonguing his boyfriend to see what level of affection was displayed?Seems like page upon page of discussing an image lifted off a Pink review. Unless everybody is saying he isnt allowed to have a life unless you all approve of every single detail?

  364. No fairs for Lady Gaga. She did, however, play an Ikea parking lot in December 2008. (Not joking – it’s listed amongst her past tour dates on her official site). Her trajectory was one that I could see Adam taking – she started in small clubs (dance clubs and larger gay bars), and then moved up to the mid-size theaters that Cook and Katy Perry have been doing. Only now, on the recently-announced dates with Kanye West, is she moving up to small arenas (though it looks like she has played larger venues in Europe, which makes sense since she hit it big there first). So yeah, Adam’s touring strategy could well mirror Gaga’s if he scores a radio hit big enough to propel a solo tour.

  365. HoppersSkippersMiners
    September 21, 2009 at 1:13 am
    Guys! STOP SALIVATING FOR A SEC AND ANSWER TRISKEL4!!

    I’ll answer her and any other Idol fan, including Adam fans who might be thinking of doing this in the future:

    DONT DO IT!!!!!

    That would seriously annoy me if I worked in Radio, to have fans of some guy emailing me to play his music……It will get play naturally, doesnt need any help!

  366. But why go the PDA route when one can go for almost-PDAs … think Samantha from Sex in the City. Or, well, rooms are good too. Comfortable. Private. Clean, and pressed, sheets with a high thread count.

    Personally, all sexual, or close to sexual behavior shocks me.

    And I love Pink. She’s a favorite of mine but I really hope that she did better covering Queen than she did covering Janis Joplin. Uck

  367. As a Kris fan, I would say that there’s no harm in requesting your local radio station(s) to play his new single, but I wouldn’t spam them with requests, as that would likely just tick them off. A lot of radio websites seem to have forms where listeners can send in song requests or hotlines where you can request stuff. If you keep the request polite and don’t send it a jillion times a day, it should be ok. Send the request, and if they don’t play the song, maybe send it again a few days later. If you know other people who are Kris fans, maybe see if they will send in one request per person to the radio station to play it as well. But again, NOT a good idea to spam the station with multiple requests over a shot period of time.

  368. Aww, Michael Sarver tweets, I think he’s missing it….

    I thought I’d unfollow him after the tour, but for some reason his emo-ness has gotten to me.

    Goodnight everyone. Have a good nights sleep and we will do a twitter
    party very soon. Love u twitter world!
    32 minutes ago from web

    My LSU Tigers aaaaand my Saints won this weekend. Way to be baby!
    about 1 hour ago from web

    So I have to say I am having a good time being home. I had fun on the road but it was def time to be home for a bit.
    about 1 hour ago from web

    family. I miss Twitter wooooorld though.
    about 1 hour ago from Echofon

    What up Twitter wooooorld!!!! Hope your all doing well. Sorry that I’ve been MIA. Very busy working and trying to spend lots of time with my
    about 1 hour ago from Echofon

    I miss my Idol family. I’m juuuuust sayin!
    9:38 PM Sep 19th from txt

    Well I have lost speed on gaining followers but I am close to 20,000. I can;t wait. Hope everyone is well.
    9:32 PM Sep 19th from web

  369. Triskel4 Here’s a link to the DCO instructions on radio requests.

    And yes, it is against the rules to rally here Truthiness, though that is not why I didn’t answer her since I’m not actually trying to rally any troops… I just had to go to the bathroom. TMI, I’m sure. LOL.

    Lady Madonna – thanks! I could totally see Adam doing that. To whoever talked about dreaming big for Adam upthread… it is not about killing your dreams, its just looking at the size of venues all the current big new acts play. He’s likely going to mirror those guys if he is successful, which means smaller venues at first even if his first few singles are hot.

  370. Affection is human nature. If celebs didnt show it, then we would be saying ther reltionship is in trouble. It is a double edge sword. I hold a high position in my company. I am a professional 40ish woman. I hold myself to very high standards during work hours. However, at social work gatherings, which there are many, it is not unusual for my hubby and I to give each other a smooch, hug, hold hands and generally be loving towards one another. It’s healthy

  371. Truthiness: I could be wrong, but I think [asking for artist campaigns is] against the guidelines of the blog. I think mj is against the whole ‘street promotion,’  thing happening here. I think that’s what tinawina was referring to in their post. I could be all wrong though. I did read the guidelines, f’reals! but it was a while ago. And I’m too cranky and tired right now to do so. Shopping at malls always justifies my general hatred for humanity.

    Aw, poor Truthi! Actually didn’t/don’t remember about the “street promotion” aspect. I actually have never formally read the guidelines. :oops: Bad, I know. Just got the gist of them after reading mj’s yelling at various posters.

    Honestly, I’m with NewFan. General requests great, particularly during your local radio station’s “Top 9 at 9” or whatever it is in your region. Anything that smacks of “spamming” should probably be avoided like the plague.

  372. Triskel4: Not sure where to post this, and hope this is an all right spot. I’m a scaredy-scared lurker of the lurkiest kind, crawling from under the lurkrock of lurkdom for the first time. Here goes. Smarter people than me can fix it if it’s wrong, right?
    My thought was that we should start a little campaigne to get all of the top 40 and whatever that other type of station people think will play Kris’s music to actually play the music. I’ve already started sending out e-mails. I just googled top 40 stations, pulled up their webpages and asked them to please play Kris Allen’s brand new single. It may be too early; it may not mean a hill of beans to any of them; or with the power of many we may get a grass roots movemenet going. Who knows? Let them know we want to hear it ad nauseum. Or close to it, just shy of getting sick of it actually. That we will dance in our homes, in our cars, in the f’n streets, just play the darn thing.

    Just my opinion but based on too many years in the entertainment marketing and PR busines. Don’t email radio stations with song requests. It will not get to the people who decide what songs to air and it will just annoy the people who need to delete the emails. (It used to work but everyone does it so much that it just is clutter now.)

    There are some things that you can do to influence what is played on the radio:

    1. Buy it. Program directors pay attention to what people buy.

    2. If the radio station has a call-in request show or any kind on online request section on their Website, use it.

    3. Request the song at a non-Top 40, influential radio station — college station or online radio station. They might actually pay attention.

    If you feel compelled to email stations to support Kris, you might want to focus on Adult Contemporary and Alternative Rock stations vs. Top 40.

  373. Okay…okay! Triskel4: Welcome to MJs. I think if you are excited about Kris’s single you should request it several times a day at local radio stations. I really don’t know, but I would think that would be better than sending OTT emails. I’m just saying as AI fans we want our guys (and girls) to break out of the bubble. You don’t want to appear as a Kris-mate. haha I hope you enjoy the new song tomorrow!

  374. AimeeMayoI just got some news that made me so excited my hands went numb. Adam is singing my song right now & I heard he is KILLING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    14 minutes ago from web

    AimeeMayoI still know anything can happen from here…but a dream is coming true- right now!!!!!
    12 minutes ago from web

  375. I actually have never formally read the guidelines. Bad, I know. Just got the gist of them after reading mj’s yelling at various posters.

    LMAO!! That cracked me up! :lol: :lol:

  376. And yes, it is against the rules to rally here Truthiness, though that is not why I didn’t answer her since I’m not actually trying to rally any troops’ ¦ I just had to go to the bathroom. TMI, I’m sure. LOL.

    Oh, I didn’t think you were rallying the troops at all, just the opposite, that you were referring someone not to do so. And hey you can bond with Kris with that kind of TMI, he seems kind of attached to mentioning it.

  377. I think if you are excited about Kris’s single you should request it several times a day at local radio stations.

    Much more reasonable. I forgot about the request thing…that’s a cool way to get your fav played

  378. yinyang
    September 21, 2009 at 1:37 am
    AimeeMayoI just got some news that made me so excited my hands went numb. Adam is singing my song right now & I heard he is KILLING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    14 minutes ago from web

    Wow, he’s working late tonight. Mountain time zone like I am, I think, and it’s 11:40 here!

  379. CindyM
    September 21, 2009 at 1:41 am

    yinyang
    September 21, 2009 at 1:37 am
    AimeeMayoI just got some news that made me so excited my hands went numb. Adam is singing my song right now & I heard he is KILLING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    14 minutes ago from web

    Wow, he’s working late tonight. Mountain time zone like I am, I think, and it’s 11:40 here!

    CindyM, there are no set “working hours” when making an album – you strike while the iron is hot and if everyone is on fire you stay and get the best that you can get from everyone.

  380. AimeeMayoI just got some news that made me so excited my hands went numb. Adam is singing my song right now & I heard he is KILLING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    14 minutes ago from web

    WTF… how can she and all the others tweet about Adams songs without giving us at leat a crumb, a few notes to talk about. We could fill 8 pages on a thread. LOL

  381. So tonight was the first time I ever saw David Cook play live. He and his bandmates were pretty good musically. I was especially impressed with what a fantastic guitarist Neal is (the lead guitarist is Neal, right? I’m not a big Cook fan, so can never remember which is Andy and which is Neal). David has good stage presence — he really tries to engage the audience and has some easy banter. It was crowded at the Taste of Newport, but most of the crowd was watching this concert basically for free (just for the price of admission to the event as a whole) — and seemed to be at the concert more because it was free and it was part of the event than because they were big David Cook fans. (there were about 20 rows of VIP seating that cost an extra $100 a pop – those were likely filled by people who were actual true Cook fans). I was standing way back in the crowd and couldn’t see the stage at all really — I wached the band on the monitors — and even then my view was often blocked by people in front of me (a side effect of standing just 5’3″). From where I was standing, it seemed like the crowd only really got into David’s set when he did a Van Halen cover — and then when he did “(I Just) Died In Your Arms Tonight” as part of the encore. He tried to get the crowd to sing along to the chorus of Come Back to Me, but it didn’t seem like very many people actually knew the song. I hope for David’s sake that the people in the 20 rows of seating (who I couldn’t see at all and couldn’t really hear from my vantage point) were more responsive. The band that was the warm up act for Cook, a group called The Bolts, seemed to have any more trouble connecting with the audience. But again, it’s not like this was a typical concert crowd, since most people likely came for the food tasting part of the event, not the music. That must be really frustrating for these musicians.

    Oh, and I forgot. People on this board have complained about Kris always wearing plaid? Well, guess what David Cook was wearing tonight — yup — jeans and a plaid shirt…

  382. So Adam and Ryan Tedder must have recorded more than one song:

    AimeeMayo: I still know anything can happen from here…but a dream is coming true- right now!!!!!
    about 1 hour ago from web

    AimeeMayo: I just got some news that made me so excited my hands went numb. Adam is singing my song right now & I heard he is KILLING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    about 1 hour ago from web

    AimeeMayo: Dear God in Heaven please let Adam Lambert cut my song tonight. He in in Denver with Ryan and I am in Tennessee FREAKING OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    about 4 hours ago from web

    AdamLambert: In Denver recording w Ryan Tedder!!! Get ready for your Sonic Lobotomy!
    about 5 hours ago from Echofon

  383. tinawina: Here’s a link to [David Cook’s] instructions on radio requests.

    tinawina – Thanks for that link! The site is entitled “SPAMALOT (Actually, Don’t!). A Handy Guide to Making Radio Requests”. It was very interesting with a lot of good suggestions and applicable to ALL idol songs (hint, hint people) :lol: :grin: :lol:

  384. NewFan – Adam….high thread counts…mmmmm (I’ve gone back to salivating!)

  385. AimeeMayoI just got some news that made me so excited my hands went numb. Adam is singing my song right now & I heard he is KILLING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    AimeeMayoI still know anything can happen from here’ ¦but a dream is coming true- right now!!!!!
    12 minutes ago from web

    I’m dubious about this.
    Aimee Mayo has a few hits under her belt so I’m not sure that she would be saying things like …”a dream is coming true – right now !!!”

    And so many !!!!!!!! as well.

  386. ivyrae

    Would it then be inappropriate for Brad to Kiss Angelina, or Tom to kiss Katie in public? IMO no. If tounges are are all over the place, then yes inappropriate. Even if it is Adam and Drake. And we really dont have any proof that it was anything more than a smooch. And that is no more than other celebs do in public.

    See my earlier post where I said I wouldn’t want to see Brad and Angelina in a PDA. I also recall Tom Cruise getting quite a bit of flack for too much PDA with Katie. This stuff gets analyized. The other problem is that Drake is not a public figure. He has no PR team to make comments for him if things go south. It’s bad enough he’s getting tweets from fans. I think people can agree to disagree. I don’t think some folks are more “right on” then others because they think there is nothing wrong with celebrity PDA. It’s just a different view point.

  387. MJ – are you going to have a thread tomorrow morning for people who listen live to the debut of Kris’ single to react right away to it? I don’t know if I’m going to get up to hear this (it is at 4:40 am my time, which is a LITTLE early), but just in case…

  388. girlygirl, thanks for the DC recap. I would have been there if it wasn’t for the project I need to deliver. I didn’t know you can actually buy VIP tickets to get front row seats. Oh well, I missed it.

    Re: Adam and Ryan Tedder. I love One Republic, hopefully Adam can have a song or two like Come Home or Apologize.

  389. Is Sonic Lobotomy the name of this Ryan Tedder song Adam is recording? Or is Adam’s warning to us about how it will sound?

    I tweeted him back saying I really was hoping to avoid having any type of lobotomy in my lifetime, but that I was still looking forward to hearing his music…

  390. I’m dubious about this.
    Aimee Mayo has a few hits under her belt so I’m not sure that she would be saying things like ‘ ¦’ a dream is coming true ‘“ right now !!!’ 

    And so many !!!!!!!! as well.

    Why dubious? it’s her. She’s a nutjob about Adam…who also happens to have a few hits under her belt.

    I imagine that if Adam did choose a song she helped write, that her brain would explode in excitement, a la Scanners.

  391. Aimee Mayo has a few hits under her belt so I’m not sure that she would be saying things like ‘ ¦’ a dream is coming true ‘“ right now !!!’ 

    Months ago I stumbled on a thread on ONTD_AI, that quoted some of her blog posts after the AI finale. Dont have alink, but she’s been blogging or tweeting about writing an Adam song for months now.

    Unless those blogger quotes were fake too

  392. undercooked

    I think people can agree to disagree. I don’t think some folks are more ‘right on’  then others because they think there is nothing wrong with celebrity PDA. It’s just a different view point.

    Yes, just a different view point. And I tend to be very liberal in my viewpoints and lifestyle. This even ruffles the feathers of my younger brother, and hes 43. LOL

  393. girlygirl: Oh, and I forgot. People on this board have complained about Kris always wearing plaid? Well, guess what David Cook was wearing tonight ‘” yup ‘” jeans and a plaid shirt’ ¦

    [Sigh] Now that donorschoose is over, should every one now contribute to the “buy-David-and-Kris-a-new-shirt” fund? Plaid AUTOMATICALLY disqualified.

  394. Months ago I stumbled on a thread on ONTD_AI, that quoted some of her blog posts after the AI finale. Dont have alink, but she’s been blogging or tweeting about writing an Adam song for months now.

    Here’s some of the old Aimee tweets:

    AimeeMayo: @adamlambert it is 1:29 in the morning. we have got to write together. stars are in the sky. i love you!!!!!!!! i’m flying with you in love Jun 3rd from web in reply to adamlambert

    AimeeMayo: just watched true blood …. wondering what the hell adam lambert is doing. i have been known to stalk!!! i wanna write a song with him.10:08 PM Jun 28th from web

    AimeeMayo: @therealGlambert – Adam- if I don’t get to write with you for this record I am going to have a heart attack. Ryan T played u a song we wrote1:07 PM Jun 25th from web in reply to adamlambert

    AimeeMayo: just discovered a new artist I LOVE – SAM SPARRO… he is a freeeeak and I love him. And he is writing with Adam Lambert right now-blast off 8:54 PM Jun 24th from web

    AimeeMayo: listening to it thunder and wondering how i am gonna write with adam lambert???????????????? it’s my dream. one of them anyway…3:21 PM Jun 17th from web

    And that is really Aimee Mayo. She also regularly tweets Taylor Swift and Kelly Pickler, and written for Kellie Pickler, Tim McGraw, Faith Hill, Lonestar, and many others. And Randy Travers though Adam could sign a country song!! LOL!

  395. Truthiness:
    Shopping at malls always justifies my general hatred for humanity.

    Shopping malls … hmmmm true … but still …It might be time to put your feet up and take a long, cool drink of something hard.

    Hoppers,
    With or without Adam …
    champagne, raspberries, chocolate, vanilla ice cream, more champagne and a high thread count… could life be any better?

    But, that’s just food of course …

  396. ooh 8am staff meeting in 6 hours. Need to sleep for a few.
    Nitey nite!!!!!!

  397. Months ago I stumbled on a thread on ONTD_AI, that quoted some of her blog posts after the AI finale. Dont have alink, but she’s been blogging or tweeting about writing an Adam song for months now.

    Unless those blogger quotes were fake too

    Yeah, she has literally been Tweeting about Adam for months now and wanting to write for him. Her Twitter account is here: http://twitter.com/aimeemayo

    She is friends with, and has worked with Kellie Pickler, and Kellie has Tweeted her. So yeah, it’s her. If you look at Aimee’s Twitter account, she seems like a generally excitable type. Couple that with some Adam fantarding and well, that leads to many exclamation points and flailing. Adam would understand.

  398. Truthiness:

    Why dubious? it’s her. She’s a nutjob about Adam’ ¦who also happens to have a few hits under her belt.

    I imagine that if Adam did choose a song she helped write, that her brain would explode in excitement, a la Scanners.

    Well, that’s ok then. She’s for real … and she’s just like some other people we know.

    Hoppers:
    Could I ask Kris and David to contribute to my own apparel crisis instead of me donating to theirs? I promise not to wear plaid.

    MJ is bound to have a Monday morning thread with Kris’ new single right?

  399. It looks like AimeeMayo went to the “Chris Sligh School of Hard Work”. You’ve got to give her credit. She knew what she wanted and she went after it. I hope it pays off. !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

  400. If you feel compelled to email stations to support Kris, you might want to focus on Adult Contemporary and Alternative Rock stations vs. Top 40.

    I wasn’t going to address this topic due to mj’s street-teaming guidelines, but I will say this. If you are going to make radio requests, you should limit them to the format(s) being targeted by the label for that particular single. In the case of Kris’s new one, it is being premiered on Z-100, the largest CHR station in the country. Though I have not seen an official adds date announced yet, this is a clear indication that it is going for adds on CHR (Top 40), and I would guess HAC as well. You will get a much warmer reception from PDs and DJs at these formats than you will trying to call-in to your local ALT station to request a song from a former Idol that they wouldn’t touch with a 10-foot pole. And in the case of the lead single from an Idol winner, I doubt seriously they’ll even bother going for adds on AC – that format will pick-up the single in a month or two when it spills over from CHR/HAC. It’s pretty rare for a song to go for adds specifically on AC, unless the label feels this is the only format that will pick it up. I doubt strongly this is Jive’s strategy for Kris at this point.

    But yeah – if I’m going to give any advice at all it would be don’t spam the stations, and don’t request outside of your listening area. There’s no need to manufacture demand for these singles – they will get played or they won’t get played, and overzealous fans are more likely to do harm than good if radio stations feel that the requests coming in are part of an organized fan-campaign.

  401. NewFan:

    Hoppers: Could I ask Kris and David to contribute to my own apparel crisis instead of me donating to theirs? I promise not to wear plaid.

    MJ is bound to have a Monday morning thread with Kris’ new single right?

    [snerk] and “I hope so” – otherwise I’m baking metaphorical pumpkin muffins for nothing!

    NOW I’m going to bed! [waves]

  402. So, I’m just checking Wikipedia about Aimee Mayo and it seems that she has written a lot of country songs. Could Adam be including something country on his album just to play with us? Or to see if he can make Randy Travis’ wife angrier than she was when he sang Ring of Fire during Country Music Week at AI?

    Just joshing. I’m getting tired too.

  403. NewFan
    September 21, 2009 at 2:24 am

    So, I’m just checking Wikipedia about Aimee Mayo and it seems that she has written a lot of country songs. Could Adam be including something country on his album just to play with us? Or to see if he can make Randy Travis’ wife angrier than she was when he sang Ring of Fire during Country Music Week at AI?

    Just joshing. I’m getting tired too.

    Adam will definitely sing it his way no matter who writes it – after all he took a disco song and turned it into a ballad and took a dance song and turned it into a ballad. (IICHY and Believe respectively). Not to mention he turned a country hit into a middle eastern hot steamy (inject your own adjectives) song.

  404. Is Sonic Lobotomy the name of this Ryan Tedder song Adam is recording? Or is Adam’s warning to us about how it will sound?

    I thought Adam was just saying that what he was going to melt our faces (to use an odd Kris expression to explain an odd Adam expression) with his music.

    Just that what he was doing was going to blow our minds with this new song, not that it was the title of his new song/album. Of course grammar and Adam…never the twain shall meet, hence the odd capitaliztion. Though frankly I find him much bettter than I would be with an iPhone and his hands are much bigger than mine are.

    But that was just my take on it, it’s all very odd, so who knows? Other than that if it is a song by Aimee –brains flying everywhere.

  405. But that was just my take on it, it’s all very odd, so who knows? Other than that if it is a song by Aimee ‘“brains flying everywhere.

    I think Randy Travis’s wife had that experience during ROF! LOL!

  406. But that was just my take on it, it’s all very odd, so who knows? Other than that if it is a song by Aimee ‘“brains flying everywhere.

    I think Randy Travis’s wife had that during ROF! LOL!

    We should be so lucky.

  407. Truthiness
    September 21, 2009 at 2:36 am

    But that was just my take on it, it’s all very odd, so who knows? Other than that if it is a song by Aimee ‘“brains flying everywhere.

    I think Randy Travis’s wife had that during ROF! LOL!

    We should be so lucky.

    So true. Her face and Simon’s remarks both made me want to knock their heads together.

  408. Of course grammar and Adam’ ¦never the twain shall meet, hence the odd capitaliztion. Though frankly I find him much bettter than I would be with an iPhone and his hands are much bigger than mine are.

    At least I can understand what Adam is typing. I need a permanent translation/deciphering device for Allison’s tweets and a reference code for Kris’ random nothings/somethings/ramblings.

  409. Her face and Simon’s remarks both made me want to knock their heads together.

    It may not have knocked any sense in … but it would have been satisfying.

    I need a permanent translation/deciphering device … and a reference code …

    Like it or not, we seem to be witnessing the birth of a new language.

  410. Actually, I’m dying here guys. And if I don’t go to bed and sleep now, I will need to use my Star Trek Universal Language Translator just to understand English in the morning. Usually I’m not much good before noon … but I should try to be operational by 2:00.

    So, goodnight! It’s been fun as usual.

    Good luck to Kris for tomorrow.

  411. NewFan
    September 21, 2009 at 3:01 am

    Actually, I’m dying here guys. And if I don’t go to bed and sleep now, I will need to use my Star Trek Universal Language Translator just to understand English in the morning. Usually I’m not much good before noon ‘ ¦ but I should try to be operational by 2:00.

    So, goodnight! It’s been fun as usual.

    Good luck to Kris for tomorrow.

    G’night NewFan, I think I’ll be signing off am getting really sleepy.

  412. Possibly the final numbers for Adam’s DonorsChoose:

    Donated:
    $207,304
    Donors:
    1,817
    Students Reached:
    80,200

  413. Who is this person?

    J_SKINS

    Back in the country again, and I gotta lot of work to do. Adam Lambert is cutting vox on a track I did today called “Obsession” oh yeah!about 8 hours ago from web

  414. J_SKINS

    Back in the country again, and I gotta lot of work to do. Adam Lambert is cutting vox on a track I did today called ‘Obsession’  oh yeah!about 8 hours ago from web

    Former member of One Republic, Jerrod Bettis, His MySpace page

    I gather he’s also a writer these days. ETA: Oh from his MySpace page, “My name is Jerrod Bettis and I write songs for your listening pleasure. I like Rock, Punk, Brit Pop, Pop, Electro, Hip Hop (sometimes), Metal, Hardcore, (Not Screamo), and believe it or not…Jazz!” He’s not a fan of Madgrigals or Tibetan Whistling, not sure if there is a fit with Adam.

    And I would normally be quite happy to only be half an hour from hearing Kris’s first single…but that it’s because I’ve been up all night and am 3 hours away from being up for 24 hours. Sorry Kris, rather be able to sleep now.

  415. Squirrely
    September 21, 2009 at 6:36 am
    Who is this person?

    J_SKINS

    Back in the country again, and I gotta lot of work to do. Adam Lambert is cutting vox on a track I did today called ‘Obsession’  oh yeah!about 8 hours ago from web

    New song title?

  416. Former member of One Republic, Jerrod Bettis, His MySpace page

    I gather he’s also a writer these days.

    Thanks – he says he’s writing for Allison too. …I’m assuming it’s Idol Allison.

    Tryin to finish this Ceelo track, and still writing for Allison. I can’t believe how long this summer has lasted! Love it

  417. New song title?

    Possible tracks:
    Strut
    Biggest Regret
    Obsession

    off the album

    Time For Miracles

  418. Yeah for Adam and all the money that was raised. And a little over a half hour for Kris’s single to come out.

  419. What station in Boston is playing Kris single? Is it Mix?

    NY station, Z100. ETA, it’s the single, whole thing, first time evah. World premiere.

  420. You hit the nail on the head, so to speak. If it were Matt at a JT concert with his girlfriend and they were snuggling and kissing, we wouldn’t be having this conversation

    For the umpteenth time, YES we would be. It’s tacky and inappropriate for anyone.

  421. Curly Sue had a twitter party and several Adam questions were asked and answered:

    ali22san

    @GeorgiaSaywell. I work with one of the judges, so no I can’t.
    about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to GeorgiaSaywell
    (about auditioning for AI herself)

    Ok….enough for now. Haha I’m tired! You guys are all awesome. I love people who love art, music, life, adam and who get it. Xoxoxx night
    about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter

    @spasticartist. No
    about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to spasticartist
    (Have you had formal vocal training?)

    @pollyness of all time DMB, incubus, Heart, joni Mitchel.
    about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to pollyness
    (favorite bands)

    @lizbeth1403. Summertime
    about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to lizbeth1403
    (favorite song)

    @LoveLifeDC 3.
    about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to LoveLifeDC
    (age in twitter avatar)

    @GeorgiaSaywell more amazing.
    about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to GeorgiaSaywell
    (Is Adam as amazing as he is on tv in person??)

    @kookytook. God, my dog, my musician friends and the band Heart.
    about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to kookytook

    @zorabet gemini.
    about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to zorabet
    (What’s your sign?)

    @_morgans not a bit.
    about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to _morgans
    (Has adam changed since being famous?)

    @_morgans cause he’s hot like fiyah!
    about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to _morgans
    (Why did Adam want a flaming headdress?)

    @GeorgiaSaywell no and no
    about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to GeorgiaSaywell

    @_morgans. Clearly
    about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to _morgans
    (Do you have a crush on Adam like all the other girls?)

    @pollyness. I’m working on a full length album.
    about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to pollyness

    @pollyness whoever makes him the happiest.
    about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to pollyness
    (“whom do you think is better for @adamlambert: @GoCheeksGo or @mrlabryFYP?) (ugh, rly)

    @kookytook about 8 years ago.
    about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to kookytook
    (When did you meet Adam?”)

    @lmariewilson. I was performing in the Zodiac Show and came to see it. We connected instantly and then did the 10 commandments shortly a …
    about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to lmariewilson

    @pollyness not 100% sure there are a lot of awesome songs. Buit I know he really loves one! So yes fingers crossed.
    about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to pollyness
    (Will you have a song on Adam’s album?)

    @edocrats lucky #!
    about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to edocrats
    (what’s the 22 in Alison’s Twitter name)

    @IlseyJ oovian.
    about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to IlseyJ

    @lmariewilson not any time soon but I wouldn’t turn it down. Music and Dance come first these days.
    about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to lmariewilson

    @pollyness not yet. Can’t wait to see him tho.
    about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to pollyness

    @leanne353 I met Adam when I was performing in Zodiac. I was on stage and I saw him and we connected instantly.
    about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to leanne353

    @fufu31 I started to do theater in highschool mainly. Next project theater wise is I’m Choreographing the LA premier of RENT.
    about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to fufu31

    @tonicate10 favorite gig hmmmmm. I love them all for different reasons.
    about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to tonicate10

    @zorabet yes. Writing now and working on a new project!
    about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to zorabet

    @IlseyJ ahahahahahhahaah wooter bootle.
    about 5 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to IlseyJ

    Ask me anything for the next 15 minutes I will answer you. All my little tweetheads.
    about 5 hours ago from UberTwitter

  422. And both Slezak and Jim are going to be there. There soing funny. Fighting over who Kris is going to hug first.

  423. So I put on Z100 and they are phone pranking some old woman who is threatening to poison her neighbor’s cat…

  424. Oh, cool, Alissan had a twitter party. I’d love to ask her a few things, I like her a lot. Hopefully she can get a song on his CD, I guess it’s pretty much up to the label and label politics and not so much up to what Adam likes.

  425. Squirrely: New song title?

    Possible tracks:
    Strut
    Biggest Regret recorded by someone else (RF, I think)
    Obsession

    off the album

    Time For Miracles

    [yawn] Morning y’all.

  426. So I put on Z100 and they are phone pranking some old woman who is threatening to poison her neighbor’s cat’ ¦

    That was ridiculous – I turned my volume down.

  427. Ok, it’s time for Kris, but they are playing Nelly…Kris better be next!

  428. Morning mj!

    Are you setting up a separate Kris thread?

  429. The song was supposed to be on 7 mins ago. What’s going on?

    Are they waiting for Kris to be there before they play it?

  430. where’s Kriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis? wait, I think he’s there

  431. [sigh] Well, I’ve got the metaphorical muffins and coffee here. Should I post here on the headlines thread for us?

  432. Morning all. My computer was down yesterday so I was thrilled to see DonorsChoose.org at $207,430 today! I was hoping it would reach the $200,000 mark by the end of yesterday’s fan contest. GOOD JOB EVERYBODY! So many ‘creative minds’ have been helped.

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