Idol Headlines for 03/04/10

EXCLUSIVE: “VH1s Unplugged” Debuts on March 10 with Adam Lambert!

But good news: On March 10… Adam Lambert’s Unplugged will be upon us, the first of eight episodes which will also feature Phoenix (for MTV), The Script (for VH1) and Reba McEntire (for CMT).

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Scott MacIntyre returns to the ‘Idol’ stage next week

Thursday night’s “American Idol” elimination episode features Danny Gokey performing his new single, ” and Idol Tracker has learned that an episode next week will feature another season 8 alum.

Scott MacIntyre will return to the “Idol” stage on March 11 to sing the song “Heartstrings, ” off his album of the same name, which is being released that day.

The vision-impaired piano man was a fan favorite last year, having risen up the “Idol” ranks to make the top 12. He was eliminated just about a year ago, after singing “The Search is Over.”

LA Times

Paula Abdul opens ‘Drop Dead Diva’ for Lifetime, second season airs June 6

A great series on Lifetime is back for its sophomore season.

The second season of Lifetime Television’s hit series, “Drop Dead Diva, ” will premiere Sunday, June 6, 2010, at 9pm ET/PT.

The season two opener will feature reality TV judge and singer/dancer Paula Abdul reprising her role as “Judge Paula Abdul, ” a figment of Jane’s subconscious.

Read more: http://www.monstersandcritics.com/smallscreen/news/article_1538561.php/Paula-Abdul-opens-Drop-Dead-Diva-for-Lifetime-second-season-airs-June-6#ixzz0hF2g4WGu

Monsters and critics

Kellie Pickler Added to CMA Fest

Tim McGraw is coming back to the CMA Music Fest.

McGraw returns after a nine-year absence and joins Alan Jackson, Billy Currington and Kellie Pickler as new additions to this summer’s lineup for the annual festival in Nashville. (Carrie Underwood will also be headlining)

ABC News

Don’t forget that Katharine McPhee appears on tonight’s Community on NBC, 8/7 pm.

More Idol Headlines after the JUMP…

Simon Cowell admits he’s ‘absolutely appalled’ at the way he has treated some contestants

“There’s many, many times where I’ve watched the show back and I’m absolutely appalled, ” Cowell, 50, says during an upcoming interview on “Piers Morgan’s Life Stories.” “You do the show, you’re not aware of what’s happening in the room outside. You know, somebody just said, ‘My dog Lassie died yesterday, ‘ I’m in a bad mood and, you know, awful, and you see it in that context, it’s very, very difficult to watch.”

NY Daily News

Ellen DeGeneres needs to bring her A-game to ‘American Idol’

In other words, for all her chirpy “I’m just a gal who’s happy to be here” persona, DeGeneres is a force to be reckoned with, a woman with as much ambition and chutzpah as Harvey Weinstein or, for that matter, Simon Cowell.

So what’s with the shrinking violet act on “American Idol”?

LA Times

Hinder singer on Lee DeWyze: ‘A front-runner with a great voice’

Last night, “American Idol” Top 24 contender Lee DeWyze proved his vocal might when he took on Hinder’s “Lips of an Angel.” Though the judges pointed out some minor pitch problems and a terrified look on his face, for the most part, their reaction was overwhelmingly positive. Kara DioGuardi told the 23-year-old Mount Prospect, Ill., native that his voice was a good fit for “radio right now, ” Ellen DeGeneres called his performance “great, ” while Simon Cowell declared that Lee was “head and shoulders above everyone else” and “may be the one to beat.”

LA Times

Adam Lambert: Sydney Stud

Enjoying some time down under, Adam Lambert was spotted hamming it up at the media call for Sydney, Australia’s Mardi Gras Party today (March 4).

The “American Idol” alum looked handsome in a black zip-up vest over a shiny black shirt with black jeans and black boots.

celebrity-gossip

American Idol’s Adam Lambert explains how he wants to be a positive role model

IT STARTED with a kiss.

Unfortunately for homophobic America, it was a kiss between gay singer Adam Lambert and a male bandmate on live TV as part of the American Music Awards last November.

The kiss lasted seconds but the fallout lingered.

Overnight, Good Morning America axed a planned Lambert performance citing the AMA “controversy” that received 1500 complaints.

Heraldsun.com

‘American Idol’: Katharine McPhee’s advice to the top 20: ‘Pick a direction’

Katharine McPhee hasn’t caught a lot of “American Idol” this season, but she can still feel the show’s impact.

Granted, the season 5 runner-up has had a few things on her plate. In addition to touring in support of her album “Unbroken, ” she has a guest-starring role on NBC’s “Community” next week and was just cast in an NBC comedy pilot called “The Pink House.”

Zap2it.com

Syesha Mercado and the original Dreamgirls celebrate opening night at the Ahmanson

“Tonight was really scary, ” “American Idol” alum Syesha Mercado said after “Dreamgirls” opened Tuesday night at the Ahmanson Theatre. Season 7’s second runner-up had just arrived at the after-party at downtown L.A.’s J Restaurant and Lounge shortly before the divalicious hour of 1 a.m.

“I’m having a little trouble breathing, ” she said. “I was backstage hyperventilating, so during the second act, they had to bring an oxygen tank backstage. It was amazing just to get through tonight. With everybody who was out there, it was very nerve-wracking.”

“Everybody” also included Angela Bassett and Courtney Vance, “High School Musical 3’s” Monique Coleman, Nia Long, “Paranormal Activity’s” Ashley Palmer, “Lincoln Heights’” Eric Hubbard and America’s newest “it” girl, Betty White. Of course, Mercado had her “Idol” peeps in the audience too – David Hernandez and Jordin Sparks, who tweeted, “Syesha killed it as Deena Jones. Amazing job, girl!”

LA Times

Theater review: ‘Dreamgirls’ at the Ahmanson Theatre

Powerhouse singing is hardly in short supply in the bluntly entertaining touring production of “Dreamgirls, ” Tom Eyen and Henry Krieger’s groundbreaking 1981 musical loosely based on the career of the “Supremes, ” which opened Tuesday at the Ahmanson Theatre.

Residents of downtown Los Angeles may have heard the sonic boom that nearly short-circuited a swath of the city when Moya Angela delivered the first act finale, “And I Am Telling You I’m Not Going” — Effie White’s anthem of heartbreak denial that turned two Jennifers, Holliday and Hudson, into instant national treasures.

LA Times

Just Jason

The first thing you notice about Jason Castro is that he’s totally real. But when he opens his mouth to sing, it’s like watching a different person. “I really think music is an extension of one’s self, ” he says. ”One can’t go without the other, so my personality and character are a huge part of the music and that’s what people have told me they love about it – just the realness and that they can feel my heart and the emotion in the songs when I perform them.”

Kidzworld.com

inPhotos: Lil Mo, Williams Record ‘Song’ For Haiti

Lil’ Mo, Michelle Williams and Tye Tribbett were all on hand for the recording of “Prayer Song, ” a record benefiting “Hope For Haiti” Tuesday.

Also featuring Krishnar Lewis, Anwar Robinson, Nikki Ross and more, the recording went down at MSR Studios in Time Square (NY). At this point there is no word as to when the single will be released.

Both Michelle Williams and Lil’ Mo tweeted from the event, writing:

Singersroom

‘Dancing with the Stars’ Casting Secrets Revealed

Can you imagine Bill Clinton on “Dancing with the Stars”? How about Jennifer Aniston? Both celebrities would be dream “gets” for Deena Katz, the senior producer on ABC’s hit show.

“I would kill to have Bill Clinton, ” Deena tells ET. “I’d love Jennifer Aniston….There’s always the fun Sarah Palins of the world…”

But assembling the celebrity cast for the dance competition is not as easy as it looks. You can’t just say yes to everyone who wants to participate.

“It’s like a jigsaw puzzle — they have to fit in with whatever the cast is, ” says Deena.

ETOnline

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Worst ‘American Idol’ Semifinalists Ever: #3 — Bobby Bennett

We barely got to know him, since he was voted out during the first week of the season 5 semifinals. But as we quickly learned, once was plenty, perhaps even too much.

In what may be the worst ‘American Idol’ song choice on record, Bennett made his live debut with, oh yes, Barry Manilow’s ‘Copacabana.’

With awkward dance moves and, at one point, an unfortunate wink to the camera, Bennett came off looking more Vegas-bound than, well, Manilow himself. ‘Idol’ appeared to have officially discovered the makings of a true star — of wedding receptions, that is.

AOL

David Otunga Would Marry Fiancee Jennifer Hudson In The Wrestling Ring

A rumor that wrestling star David Otunga wanted to marry his superstar fiancée Jennifer Hudson in the WWE ring recently spread on the Internet. And although it seems a slim possibility that that will happen, Otunga is not exactly dead-set against the idea of saying “I do” in front of thousands of wrestling fans.

“It was an interview and somebody asked me [if I would marry Jennifer in the ring], ” he explained to MTV News about the origin of the wedding rumor. “I don’t think she’d go for it, but that’d be cool.”

MTV

Kara DioGuardi’s Missing Wedding Ring

MYFOXNY.COM – You may have noticed that American Idol judge Kara DioGuardi has not been sporting her wedding ring this week on the hit Fox show.

She married teacher-turned-general contractor Mike McCuddy last July.

Observant viewer, and Fox 5 anchor, Greg Kelly noticed that she has not been wearing a ring recently.

It turns out that it is not a signal of a rocky marriage. It turns out that she doesn’t wear it when she decides that it doesn’t match the outfit she is wearing.

DioGuardi tells Fox 5’s Anne Craig that her husband always wears his ring.

My Fox NY

Bonus numbers! Kelly Clarkson, Kris Allen, Allison Iraheta, more

I got a few new numbers, mostly requests, from the latest Nielsen SoundScan information. No weekly sales, but some release-to-date figures I know some of you have been wanting for a while.

Enjoy!

USA Today

Simon Cowell Admits He’s ‘Smitten’ with Bride-to-Be

But in an interview with fellow Britain’s Got Talent judge Piers Morgan, scheduled to air Saturday on Piers Morgan’s Life Stories: Simon Cowell in the U.K., the sharp-tongued Brit uncharacteristically opens his heart, confessing that he’s “smitten” with new fiancée, Mezghan Hussainy.

“You confuse lust with love, you know, when you’re in your teens and stuff like that, ” Cowell says. “It’s a difficult thing to describe other than you know it when you are.”

People

The ‘American Idol’ Judge Power Rankings: Narrowing down the Top 20, Ellen takes a nose dive

Little bit of a shakeup this week. Simon continues to reign, Kara downplays her love of Casey, Randy continues to confuse while still getting paid, and Ellen takes a turn for the worse thanks to Tim Urban. This week’s judge rankings:

LA Times

‘Bachelor’ Jason Mesnick, Molly Malaney on the wedding, ‘American Idol’s’ Jason Castro

On performer Jason Castro of “American Idol”

Molly: I always knew when I walked down the aisle, I didn’t want to walk down to the typical wedding march song. I wanted to do something more modern. Jason and I both love the version of “Somewhere Over the Rainbow” that Jason Castro sang on “American Idol.” The person who did it originally has passed away … so it was a very easy choice to see if [Jason Castro] would do this favor for us. He was absolutely phenomenal, blew us away.

Jason: He was a really good guy.

Zap2it

The Girls Who Dreamed of Being, Well, ‘Dreamgirls’

The legendary 1981 musical, which originally starred Jennifer Holliday, Sheryl Lee Ralph and Loretta Devine, is currently playing at the Ahmanson Theatre in Los Angeles through April 4.

Mercado was standing outside of Radio City Music Hall when she got the call that she had scored the role of Deena. She had been waiting all night to hear the news. She couldn’t sleep.

When she finally got the call, she jumped up and down with excitement. After all, this was her first big show. The woman who had wanted to be a performer ever since she was a child could hardly contain herself.

“It was like a dream come true, ” said Mercado, who admitted she had never seen any of the touring productions of the show before landing the role. “This was all very new to me.”

LA Watts Times

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193 Comments

  1. I’m getting just a wee bit tired of singers promoting themselves by putting out a single to benefit Haiti. C’mn already, just do a nice PSA and ask for the cash. In my humble opinion all of these songs, whether singles or collaborations are a bunch of hogwash and I, personally, don’t think they are as altruistic and people think they are. It’s media exposure and self-promotion no matter how you look at it. When it comes up on rotation on someone’s Ipod are they going to think “Oh, I should give again to charity”. Hell no, they just think of it as another song or a cover.

  2. Archie and Brooke went together to watch Syesha in Dreamgirls. Check out their tweets and twitpics…

    DavidArchie: Dreamgirls was amazing!! Great job by the performers and @Syesha :) :)!

    realbrookewhite: My phone died… Show was amazing and @syesha was a superstar

    DavidArchie: http://twitpic.com/16ijgcReunited and it feels so good!

    Syesha: Best buds after the show. Thanks for your support @DavidArchie @realbrookewhite http://twitpic.com/16io1a

  3. Danny’s album is currently ranked #5 on the overall albums chart on Itunes. I also saw that his album is ranked on some of the Top 10 Country albums chart on Itunes in other countries as well. He is currently ranked:

    #3 on the Itunes Country albums chart in the UK

    #4 on the Itunes Country albums chart in Canada

    #6 on the Itunes Country albums chart in Portugal

    I think that’s it’s nice that Danny’s album is charting on Itunes in other countries.

  4. ’m getting just a wee bit tired of singers promoting themselves by putting out a single to benefit Haiti. C’mn already, just do a nice PSA and ask for the cash. In my humble opinion all of these songs, whether singles or collaborations are a bunch of hogwash and I, personally, don’t think they are as altruistic and people think they are. It’s media exposure and self-promotion no matter how you look at it. When it comes up on rotation on someone’s Ipod are they going to think “Oh, I should give again to charity”. Hell no, they just think of it as another song or a cover.

    When they buy these songs though the money is a charitable donation…so it isn’t like the songs are just promotion for the artist. Also, if people have the gift of music I think it is great they want to funnel it into a way to help others. Shooting a PSA just seems like the lame way out. 30 minutes of work instead of actually taking the time to craft a record for charity.

  5. Why do I think that Simon is trying madly to rehabilitate his image so that we can all accept him as a wonderful, caring mentor on X factor?

    Or maybe his dog Lassie just died. lol

  6. In other words, for all her chirpy “I’m just a gal who’s happy to be here” persona, DeGeneres is a force to be reckoned with, a woman with as much ambition and chutzpah as Harvey Weinstein or, for that matter, Simon Cowell.

    So what’s with the shrinking violet act on “American Idol”?

    This times a 100. Jeesh, she’s been awful — I guess she doesn’t do serious well.

    Also, why is Kara climbing all over Simon this year. I sure hope she’s not angling to become “head judge” cuz … just no…

  7. lucy:

    Why do I think that Simon is trying madly to rehabilitate his image so that we can all accept him as a wonderful, caring mentor on X factor?

    Or maybe his dog Lassie just died. lol

    ROFL! No! It’s the pod people! They have taken over Simon! :)

  8. For any of you guys that have been following Elliott’s plight – he was just on the air with Ryan Seacrest. It looks like Ryan may have hooked Elliott up with a contact to get him out of Chile.

  9. ITA with saga on the charity singles. It’s a great way of helping! and I’m very happy if it’s any help in promoting the artist. It’s a 3 ways win situation

  10. It’s official for me – I do NOT like idol without Pauler. The dynamics between Simon, Randy and Paula was the best, imo.

  11. I miss Paula too!

    Good update for WWFM

    POP:
    19 17 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 4336 4019 317 29.487
    +77 Spins
    +20 Bullet
    +0.327 AI

    HAC:
    20 19 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 1423 1218 205 7.304
    +41 Spins
    +15 Bullet
    +0.096 AI

  12. Could Simon be mellowing down?

    Ellen DeGeneres needs to bring her A-game to ‘American Idol’

    She does. She has some moments, but I’m generally disappointed with how she is doing so far. I hope she really gets into it as the season goes along.

    The Jason Castro in the Philippines promo leaflet has apparently come out. Excited to see him. :)

    It’s media exposure and self-promotion no matter how you look at it.

    A group of youtube “stars” has gotten into it, too. The video has probably been posted elsewhere here at mj’s, in which case, sorry for the repost. :P

    We Are The World 25 For Haiti (YouTube Edition)

    I like their version, though. :P (If Andrew Garcia weren’t on AI, he probably would have been a part of it.)

  13. POP:
    14 11 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dying 5404 5097 307 31.499
    +15 Spins
    -35 Bullet
    +0.020 AI

    HAC:
    6 6 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dying 3167 3187 -20 16.875
    +3 Spins
    +0 Bullet
    -0.051 AI

  14. lucy:

    Why do I think that Simon is trying madly to rehabilitate his image so that we can all accept him as a wonderful, caring mentor on X factor?

    Absolutely, I was thinking the same thing. He’s been dropping hints during the semifinals–‘I wish I could choose a song for you’ or ‘I know that we contradict ourselves with this brief mentoring.’ He’s already crafting a narrative for American XF where the contestants receive ‘real’ instruction. I’ve gotta give it to the guy. He knows how to market himself.

  15. Well, maybe I don’t like the “We Are The World” single but the Haiti marathon produced some really nice singles, very pretty accoustic version that I realy like to listen to.

  16. I’m missing Paula too. The original three just had a good vibe together.
    I still think Boxwersox rocks and is the best so far.
    Re the Dreamgirls show in L.A. – so cool that Archie and Brooke went. Yay Season 7. I seem to remember an interview where David Cook said he was planning on seeing Syesha’s show when it was there also. But his London trip has obviously precluded that. Oh – for anyone who may have missed it, Cookie did a Vlog from Abbey Road yesterday to accompany his tweets.

  17. The judges seem serious and dour this season, but I would be too if I had to judge this bunch. Depressing! I will say, however, this is the first and only season I have actually liked Simon. So if he’s trying to make himself more likable, it’s working on me, lol. But if it’s sincere–if he has been a wee bit humbled and has become more self-aware–then I’m glad for that and for him.

    p.s. And I don’t miss Paula at. all.

  18. …That’s when you suddenly realize, ‘I haven’t thought about this person as a human being.’ And it was a real wakeup call, I’ve got to tell you.”

    Okay, Simon. So, now you realize now that you see these competitors as items on a spreadsheet and not human beings. What are you going to do about it?

    All his apparent contrition about his over the top savaging of contestants is great, except I don’t expect him to change one bit.

  19. saga:
    03/04/2010 at 10:26 am
    I think charity singles are a great invention.

    ITA with this. There are many people who really cannot afford to donate $10, $25 or more money for charity, but feel good about themselves by helping out while spending only $1.39.

    I have been fortunate enough to have the money to donate both on-line and by purchasing a charity single (but that could change any day, like with anyone). Also, each time I listen to the single, I’m reminded of the reason for purchasing it, which keeps the charity in my thoughts. Of course, people who have no interest in purchasing charity singles aren’t obligated to do so, and can continue to go on-line and donate $$ directly to any charity of their choosing.

    From the artist’s perspective, they are taking the time to arrange, record and perform a song, which requires more effort than a PSA. I hope this type of fund-raising continues, because its a win-win situation all around.

  20. I’m getting just a wee bit tired of singers promoting themselves by putting out a single to benefit Haiti. C’mn already, just do a nice PSA and ask for the cash. In my humble opinion all of these songs, whether singles or collaborations are a bunch of hogwash and I, personally, don’t think they are as altruistic and people think they are. It’s media exposure and self-promotion no matter how you look at it.

    Given this criteria, I don’t see how a PSA is anything more than media exposure and self-promotion either.

    I think the charity songs are the musical equivalent of chocolate bars or girl guide cookies. Sure, you can send the kids around door-to-door to beg directly for money, but the charity tends to do better and get less ire if the kids are raising money by selling things.

    Some people who wouldn’t have donated to the charity, might still want the song. People who have already donated to the charity might also want the song. So, there really are no losers. I’m sure the UN wouldn’t be all over Kris like white on rice if they didn’t think that his visit and song had some benefit.

    This entire argument reminds me of the Joey/Phoebe on Friends debating about how there are no good deeds.

  21. Billboard charts. Last week’s ranks in ( ). Kris’s album had the biggest jump of any album on the Billboard Top 200 chart, moving up 72 spots.

    LLWD

    #18 Hot 100 (LW – 19)
    #6 Yahoo Audio (LW – NR)
    #7 Adult Pop (LW – 6)
    #12 Pop (LW – 14)
    #17 Radio Songs (LW – 18)
    #19 Digital Songs (LW – 21)
    #23 Adult Contemporary (LW – 30)
    #27 Christian Songs (LW – 27)
    #61 Canadian Hot 100 (LW – 76)

    Let It Be

    #63 Hot 100 (LW – NR)
    #29 Digital Songs (LW – NR)

    WWFM

    #24 Hot 100 (LW – 28)
    #3 Canadian Hot 100 (LW – 6)
    #17 Pop (LW – 18)
    #19 Adult Pop (LW – 21)
    #23 Digital (LW – 24)
    #33 Radio (LW – 37)

    FYE (single)

    #6 Dance/Club (LW – 8)
    #55 Canadian Hot 100 (LW – 50)

    FYE (album)

    #54 Billboard Top 200 (LW – 54)
    #11 Canadian Albums (LW – 13)

    Kris Allen (album)

    #82 Billboard Top 200 (LW – 154)
    #20 Digital Albums (LW – NR)

    Just Like You (album)

    #186 Billboard Top 200 (LW – NR)

  22. Regarding the charity singles, I think I would feel better if they were doing it for Chile now. I don’t think the texting campaigns, etc. for Chile are being picked up for Haiti. I know Chile is a more wealthy country but that doesn’t mean we can’t raise funds to help those people out also.

    Count me in the camp that doesn’t think We Are The World should have been redone, plus a spanish version. Didn’t like it, didn’t buy it. I did buy Kris’s Let It Be.

  23. WWFM is doing really well on the Canadian charts as well. It’s #8 on top40 and #2 on HAC with a great bullet.

  24. OMG. I was talking to my friend and was talking about Idol.

    Her: You know how my sister has been in Wizard of Oz with famous people?
    Me: Yeah.
    Her: Well Todrick Hall was the director, and we met him.
    Me: Holy crap.
    Her: So I’ve been voting for him since I know him.

  25. Thanks girlygirl, those are amazing updates! Both guys are doing awsome. I love S8 !

  26. iTunes updates. Is it interesting that an album cut (I Still Believe) is outselling Danny’s single (MBD)?

    #21 Let It Be
    #22/#373 LLWD
    #23/#437 WWFM
    #226 I Still Believe
    #323 AWM
    #336 MBD
    #545 FYE
    #603 I Will Not Say Goodbye
    #656 Scars
    #969 Heartless

    albums

    #5 Danny Gokey
    #25 Kris Allen
    #43/#262 FYE
    #155/#486 Just Like You

  27. I think Ellen is doing fine, but I feel that Simon seems to be trying to intimidate and undermine her. I sense it’s getting to her and I hope she can overcome that and trust her instincts and speak out. The Kara and Simon cozying up is annoying to me.

    On the charity singles, I think it’s a great idea and I don’t consider it a ploy for publicity by the artists. Could some of it be? Of course. It’s a tangible way of doing something and donating one’s time and talents in a meaningful way. People buy music they like and if that purchase helps a worthy cause, who is being hurt by it? If they don’t like the music, it’s still raised awareness that the problem is still there and maybe they will be inspired to donate direct.

  28. Thanks, girlygirl, for all the numbers for singles and albums. I’m THRILLED with how Kris is doing on the charts with LLWD, LIB, and his album. I’m ready for his second single to be released even though LLWD hasn’t peaked yet.

  29. The judges seem serious and dour this season, but I would be too if I had to judge this bunch. Depressing!

    See, I read this as — Oh my gosh! We have gone too much for the pretty and the potential this season and are in danger of having *nobody* who can do a bang-on performance week after week! What will happen to the ratings? Crap, we threw all these very inexperienced, unformed people into this mixer, and now we really really really have to help and shove them to improvement in just a few weeks! And we aren’t sure we can do it! So we’re serious!

    I’m not sure they can do it either. But I get why this would make them pretty serious. I imagine the producers are saying, Help! We cast people in roles and because they have the pretty and the potential! Don’t let them deep-six our season by producing no musical entertainment!

  30. I’m getting just a wee bit tired of singers promoting themselves by putting out a single to benefit Haiti. C’mn already, just do a nice PSA and ask for the cash.

    Well, your premise, that singers (like Kris Allen) are actually promoting themselves, not a worthy cause, by putting out singles to benefit Haiti, is something I guess I just disagree with. You’re also wrong, in my opinion, in trying to suggest that (at least in his case) this idea originated with him. It’s part of Idol Gives Back and was hardly his idea. It is, nonetheless, a great idea and one that doesn’t need defending.

    And I agree with Kirsten, who wrote:

    I’m sure the UN wouldn’t be all over Kris like white on rice if they didn’t think that his visit and song had some benefit.

  31. I agree with Kirsten’s chocolate bar comparison. The charity raises money and awareness for their cause. The singer gets free promotion by being associated with the charity. The buyer gets a nice song for their music collection. And the people who really need it are helped. It’s a win-win sitaution for everyone involved.

  32. Personally I find charity singles much more effective than something like a PSA. I usually forget PSAs soon after I see them, unless they run over and over again.

    And I’m not going to judge the motives of anyone I don’t know.

  33. Lu, thank you so much for the update on Elliott’s situation. Sure hope they get him out of there sooner rather than later.

    Count me among those that miss Paula. The dynamic isn’t good this year and I’m not sure what is the reason. But, if Ellen is supposed to be the voice of the public, she sure doesn’t speak for me very often! Never did understand that anyway. I know what I think. Don’t need an additional judge there to supposedly give voice to it. Kara is SO much worse this year! At least she controlled her neck last night. I thought it was going to break in two Tuesday due to overuse. She’s constantly climbing all over Simon and I was glad to hear Ryan call her out on it last night. Seemed to make her think twice.

    For some reason, there just doesn’t seem to be as much fun involved this year. The kids are anxious and confused and four judges telling you that your performance sucked, is just overkill. That is one of the reasons Paula was so valuable. People often made fun of her comments on the kid’s clothes or style but if that was the only positive feedback they got, it was something many of them clung to. Some of those poor girls last night looked so beaten up and defeated once they were done.

  34. I don’t miss Paula. I don’t like the fooling around by the judges, so I don’t miss that, either.

    I actually really like the judging this year. If you guys ever watched Canadian or Australian Idol you would see judging like this. Four judges, trying for the most part to give serious, useful, helpful criticism. It’s refreshing to see the American show doing the same.

  35. I don’t miss Paula. I don’t like the fooling around by the judges, so I don’t miss that, either.

    I actually really like the judging this year. If you guys ever watched Canadian or Australian Idol you would see judging like this. Four judges, trying for the most part to give serious, useful, helpful criticism. It’s refreshing to see the American show doing the same.

    ITA

  36. Hot 100

    TW LW WC (Peak)
    18 19 18 Kris Allen – Live Like We’re Dying (18)
    24 28 11 Adam Lambert – Whataya Want From Me (24)
    36 06 03 Artists For Haiti – We Are the World 25: For Haiti (2)
    41 46 13 Daughtry – Life After You (41)
    42 42 31 Kelly Clarkson – Already Gone (13)
    52 54 10 Carrie Underwood – Temporary Home (52)
    63 ** 01 Kris Allen – Let it Be (63)
    97 RE 02 Kellie Pickler – Didn’t You Know How Much I Loved You (97)

  37. Re: the creepy voodoo dolls… someone fill me in. I wasn’t around last year. Was there much of a fan war between the Davids fanbases? I find it odd and hard to hate on David A. He is so much more kid like than David C. Even David C. is kind and polite. No slight here, but he doesn’t strike me as someone you would have a voodoo doll for.

  38. The kids are anxious and confused and four judges telling you that your performance sucked, is just overkill. That is one of the reasons Paula was so valuable.

    This can’t be true because they were anxious BEFORE they got their critiques on Top 24. And as far as I can tell, most of them got good praise in Hollywood (would they advance them to Top 24 if they had told them they sucked?), so Paula or not Paula, it wouldn’t have made any difference to the jittery performances of Top 24.

    I’d say the judging has improved considerably, instead of the pointless waffle they used to indulged far too often in previous years we actually got something useful the contestants can use. The fact that the contestants generally improved in Top 20 suggests that the judging actually helped. Most of them looked more settled and performed better.

    I’m one who believe that Randy should have gone instead of Paula, but I don’t really missed Paula at all. I’m however starting to find Kara really annoying.

    As for contradictory critiques, it’s really up to the contestants to work out who to trust when they is a difference of opinion. Sometimes the critiques sounded contradictory but actually is not. The judges would tell the contestants to change things up and make a song their own, but they should not change things up too much so that the song become unrecognisable. Perhaps the contestants got confused because David Cook’s Billie Jean and Adam Lambert’s Ring of Fire are completely different from the original, but they should recognise that those worked because the arrangements are excellent done with great skill, and that most people don’t have the skill to do convincing arrangement like those. In any case, David Cook’s Billie Jean arrangement was done by a very good musician Chris Cornell, and it took him quite a while to come out with that arrangement. Very few, if any, of the contestants on Idol aren good enough to do those kind of arrangements.

  39. Count me among those that miss Paula. The dynamic isn’t good this year and I’m not sure what is the reason. But, if Ellen is supposed to be the voice of the public, she sure doesn’t speak for me very often! Never did understand that anyway. I know what I think. Don’t need an additional judge there to supposedly give voice to it

    ITA. I didn’t think I would miss Paula, but I do. I am still crazy about Ellen. She just doesn’t add anything. I can get the “everyman’s opinion” from my hubsband, daughter, mother, friends, and myself.
    I think Paula actually played an important role in the overall vibe of the show. Just like any good sports team, you have players that fit certain roles. If one of the roles is not filled, it hinders the team.
    Something is off. Maybe it will get better when they move to the top 12.

  40. I don’t miss Paula at all but I am about to throw the TV out the window just to get Kara to shut up with her telling these kids who they are. Like she knows better than they do. “That wasn’t you last week, honey, THIS is you!”

    Blecch.

  41. Tess
    03/04/2010 at 10:09 am
    I’m getting just a wee bit tired of singers promoting themselves by putting out a single to benefit Haiti.

    I agree with you that some of this is about self-promotion. I think that’s one of the reasons why some of the Superstars didn’t want to participate, plus having to sing with people who couldn’t sing. But if someone came out with a good song and they did a great job of singing it, I would buy it. It just haven’t happened yet, but I did give to two Haiti relief organizations to help the cause.

  42. Paula and Kara are two sides of the same coin. Paula was upsetting because she seemed nice and constructive with a good ear for talent during the auditions–when she wasn’t acting loopy/drunk/high. Kara has it in her to be helpful, but she seems determined to show us how smart and relevant she is. If she’s on the judging panel, I’m going to assume she knows something about music. She doesn’t have to prove it to me in such a condescending tone.

    If nothing else, however, Paula seemed to try to find some grain of positivity in every contestant. Kara seems rather witchy and in mean girl mode too much for my liking.

  43. I imagine the producers are saying, Help! We cast people in roles and because they have the pretty and the potential! Don’t let them deep-six our season by producing no musical entertainment!

    This is where I feel the show is missing Paula the most. Take last year as an example. During the auditions, Simon’s reaction to Kris was “Your modesty is offputting,” his reaction to Adam was “you’re too theatrical” and his reaction to Allison was something like “that wasn’t a great audition.” I don’t remember what he said about Danny – it could have been positive. But for at least 3 of our top 4, Simon was negative in the auditions while Paula was VERY supportive.

    I think Paula actually played an important role in the overall vibe of the show. Just like any good sports team, you have players that fit certain roles. If one of the roles is not filled, it hinders the team.

    I also agree with this. Besides being instrumental in casting the right people for the show, she was the only judge who took the time to talk to the contestants back stage, provide them with positive feedback and overall support them. With the critical, contradictory and sometimes nonsensical feedback the contestants have been getting, who is there to calm them down?

    I do miss Paula, but maybe not for the reasons others have outlined. I think the producers royally screwed up by not renewing her contract.

  44. I’m not against performers doing charity work…I think it is great that Kris took time away from his busy schedule to go to Haiti and I admired Elliot and Daughtry and Carrie for going to Africa and I think that David Cook’s participation in the “race” for a Cancer cure and for Archie’s numerous charity functions are wonderful. I have no problem with any of that and I respect their efforts. I just don’t like singles sung for charity. Hell, if the 40,000 peeps who had purchased Kris’ single chose to give up a cup of Starbucks and a croissant and had just donated $10 via their cellphone…the Haiti cause would have been $360,000 to the betterer. And I’m not singling out anyone. I just don’t like the whole “record for charity”…never have and never will. And yup, I’m pretty cynical and I would feel the same way if one of my favs did the same thing.

  45. I can’t decide if these are cute or creepy.
    They remind me of Chucky.

    Yes, Chucky, that’s exactly what I thought. Too creepy but then again I’ve always felt that way about dolls.

  46. Her: Well Todrick Hall was the director, and we met him.
    Me: Holy crap.
    Her: So I’ve been voting for him since I know him.

    Does this mean I should move my points away from Toddrick for the pool? Hmmm… he does seem to know a LOT of people.

  47. David Cook just tweeted
    Oh, and I’m writing with @savan_kotecha and @amf19, so check em out when and if you wanna…

  48. Perhaps the contestants got confused because David Cook’s Billie Jean and Adam Lambert’s Ring of Fire are completely different from the original, but they should recognise that those worked because the arrangements are excellent done with great skill, and that most people don’t have the skill to do convincing arrangement like those. In any case, David Cook’s Billie Jean arrangement was done by a very good musician Chris Cornell, and it took him quite a while to come out with that arrangement. Very few, if any, of the contestants on Idol aren good enough to do those kind of arrangements.

    I think the key for rearranging songs is to really listen to the lyrics and what they are saying then going with a vibe that fits. I feel like Kris, Adam & Cook in particular were really good at getting to the guts of a song. I feel thats what’s lacking with the S9 rearrangements (for the most part). They are just changing the song for its own sake.

  49. This is where I feel the show is missing Paula the most. Take last year as an example. During the auditions, Simon’s reaction to Kris was “Your modesty is offputting,” his reaction to Adam was “you’re too theatrical” and his reaction to Allison was something like “that wasn’t a great audition.” I don’t remember what he said about Danny – it could have been positive. But for at least 3 of our top 4, Simon was negative in the auditions while Paula was VERY supportive.

    Yeah, I agree. My favorite example is Season One, where throughout the auditions and throughout Hollywood week Simon kept telling Kelly that he couldn’t remember who she was from one performance to the next… Paula kept pushing her.

    Simon would be missing out on a lot if he’d succeeded in keeping Kelly off the show.

  50. “Oh, and I’m writing with @savan_kotecha and @amf19, so check em out when and if you wanna…”

    Savan Kotecha wrote Britney Spears’ “If U Seek Amy”? Ugh. Ugh. UGH.

  51. I have no problem with any of that and I respect their efforts. I just don’t like singles sung for charity. Hell, if the 40,000 peeps who had purchased Kris’ single chose to give up a cup of Starbucks and a croissant and had just donated $10 via their cellphone…the Haiti cause would have been $360,000 to the betterer. And I’m not singling out anyone. I just don’t like the whole “record for charity”…

    Yeah, I don’t like it either. Not because I think the artists are doing it solely for self-promotion at all, in general. But because I think it gives a lot of the *purchasers* a false sense that they’re doing something really good, sometimes just from *listening* to the song, and of course for forking over a buck or two to buy it!

    Encourages the sentimental belief that you care about injustice and hardship when really all you like is nice harmonies and kittens, in other words.

    On the other hand, as others on this blog have pointed out, the people who feel this way very likely would have given *nothing* if it weren’t for the songs. So at least they’re probably bringing in a few extra charity bucks that may not have been donated by any means.

  52. I feel thats what’s lacking with the S9 rearrangements (for the most part). They are just changing the song for its own sake.

    Much as I hate to quote crawling-all-over-Simon Kara, it’s what she said to Jermaine (I think it was Jermaine): Add “just one trick that means something.”

  53. Very few, if any, of the contestants on Idol aren good enough to do those kind of arrangements.

    Especially in about three days!

  54. I think Paula actually played an important role in the overall vibe of the show. Just like any good sports team, you have players that fit certain roles. If one of the roles is not filled, it hinders the team.

    Yep, this is exactly what I think. The judges used to banter, have fun, etc. and it all seemed natural. This year it feels like a wake. I didn’t like it when they added Kara. I still don’t know why they felt they had to make that change up.

  55. I just don’t like singles sung for charity. Hell, if the 40,000 peeps who had purchased Kris’ single chose to give up a cup of Starbucks and a croissant and had just donated $10 via their cellphone…the Haiti cause would have been $360,000 to the betterer.

    And if every man, woman and child in the US did this, the charity would have more than 3 billion dollars. Woo!

    But the majority aren’t going to do that. Charitable songs don’t prevent people from giving up coffee and pastries. Charitable songs are probably redirecting money from entertainment budgets. So, the BEPs sell a few less copies of “Boom Boom Pow” and a few people in Haiti get to have a shelter over their heads. I think the BEPs will survive.

    Charity songs are just one more arrow in the quiver for fund raising. Some people may not donate one way, but they may donate another way or they may donate twice. It’s just a little sugar to make the medicine go down.

    Take those red mittens Canadians (and Oprah) went gaga for during the Olympics. It’s just not that people liked the mittens, they helped to justify the purchase knowing that $4 was a donation for amature sports. Sure, they could have charged $6 for the mittens and then had a sign beside the till requesting donations, but I don’t think they would have sold as many mittens or have gotten as much in donations that way.

  56. Hell, if the 40,000 peeps who had purchased Kris’ single chose to give up a cup of Starbucks and a croissant

    Wait, what? How do those things remotely relate? If you choose to give money to charity, in whatever way you please, it has nothing whatever to do with “giving up” your coffee and whathave you, unless you only have ten bucks in the world each day, in which case, you ain’t sending it to Haiti.

    But I’m pretty sure most people who actually sent money to folks whose homes and families were crushed and ruined weren’t in some sort of contest to tell off other people about how *they* give money the bestest way. Cause that would trivialize something important for the petty feeling of being self-righteous on the internet. Heaven forbid.

  57. I’d say the judging has improved considerably, instead of the pointless waffle they used to indulged far too often in previous years we actually got something useful the contestants can use. The fact that the contestants generally improved in Top 20 suggests that the judging actually helped. Most of them looked more settled and performed better.

    Qualitatively it is better, although I wonder how long that will last when they go back to an hour a night and they can’t blather on and on. But – big but, I raelly think that Paula was the heart of the judging panel. She delivered bad news in a less soul-crushing way than the other judges and always tried to be supportive.

  58. I don’t miss Paula at all but I am about to throw the TV out the window just to get Kara to shut up with her telling these kids who they are. Like she knows better than they do. “That wasn’t you last week, honey, THIS is you!”

    Blecch.

    But see I think having Paula around is at the very least, more fun than having Kara around. I personally prefer Paula’s brand of niceness and her wacked out loopiness, where I didn’t know what she was going to say, which is amusing. So if the show was going to have one, they should have hung on to Paula, and give Kara’s cash to her. And of course, they should never have hired Ellen at all. Talk about superfluous. And she might take over for Simon? Yikes. A panel of Randy, Kara and Ellen, what a clusterfeck of uselessness.

  59. Phew – back to MJ’s after a weekend of awesomeness totally taken over by Adam Lambert and his fabulous concert :-) I must admit, I still need to catch up on AI this week, but it will be really really hard to get into any of this year’s crop after watching Adam live and seeing him on Leno (still need to catch up on SYTYCDA).

    Oh, and hooray to WWFM on the charts :-) I finally got to hear the song a few times on the radio in SoCal, and just about got in a wreck squeeing my head off! DC radio continues to suck.

  60. If you don’t want to buy a charity single or album, no one is going to force you to. Likewise, if you can’t afford to give to charity, or you don’t feel the need to give to a particular cause, no one can force you to do so.

    But I would guess that more people can afford to download one or two charity singles at $1.29 a pop than can give $10 or $20 to every organization that could use aid.

  61. Oh, my take on the judges: hopefully Ellen will get better, but I was not as impressed these last few weeks with her as I was with her Hollywood Week performance.

    I miss Paula, and I agree her kindness and unabashed enthusiasm really helped make the panel more happy and cheerful. Then again, I also agree that it’s just hard to get that excited about any of this year’s group quite as much.

    I also think Paula had insanely good instincts as to who would really be a star and do well in the competition – she just seemed to naturally pick up on it even during the auditions, often way before Simon did.

    Kara, more than anything, just skeeves me out with her bizarro banter (hitting on Casey, etc.) She’s like the Danny of the panel – doesn’t mean any ill will, but is just completely clueless as to how she comes across to the audience.

  62. Guys, Ellen replaced Paula. Not Kara. Kara was already there. Why put it on Kara to replace Paula, or be the new Paula, now? That was never her job.

  63. Kara has been giving more constructive criticism in the past two weeks than she did all of last year and more than Paula in her 8 seasons.
    Ellen is a work in progress right now but she brings star power (and probably ratings).

    As for the fact that they don’t have the same chemistry as the old panel, DUH! They’ve been together for two weeks.
    The old group was just going more and more complacent over the years too.

  64. I must be in the minority because I don’t find any one judging combination to be more or less annoying. All of them have their lucid moments and their WTF moments. The addition of Kara last year was completely unnecessary, but, whatever, it’s fun to yell at the television. She might actually be getting worse. Even when she’s giving a compliment, her tone is so condescending. I actually think Randy is somewhat better this year than he has been for say, the last five years or so.

  65. Very few, if any, of the contestants on Idol aren good enough to do those kind of arrangements.

    Especially in about three days!

    That’s why most of them pull it off by singing a cover of a cover. Or they sing a different arrangement that they pulled from youtube or one they had been singing for a while in bars or shows. (and who knows where it came from)

    Does anyone know if pretty piano girl’s (can’t remember her name at this moment) arrangement sounds like the Natasha Bedingfield version? Simon called her on it, but she denied it.

  66. Guys, Ellen replaced Paula. Not Kara. Kara was already there. Why put it on Kara to replace Paula, or be the new Paula, now? That was never her job.

    Not putting anything on anyone… I just miss the judging panel of Randy, Paula and Simon. It was more fun to watch (for me for you for me). They had chemistry. It wasn’t the same when they added Kara. Nothing against her personally but it added nothing – nada – zero – as far as I’m concerned. I REALLY don’t like it now that Paula (“well you look beautiful”) is gone. Sorry if this is off topic MJ. I think I started this discussion!

  67. I do miss Paula, but maybe not for the reasons others have outlined. I think the producers royally screwed up by not renewing her contract.

    I have a feeling that’s going to become even more evident as this season goes along. As ditsy as she was at times, Paula brought a touch of genuine kindness to the judges’ table that’s clearly missing this year. Ellen may have some of it in her, but it seems she’s far more interested in trying to say something clever.

  68. But see I think having Paula around is at the very least, more fun than having Kara around.

    I don’t want either one of them – I was so tired of Paula babbling and playing games with Simon. I’m still giving Ellen some time to grow into it, she’s new, and I get the vibe sometimes that the other judges make sure she knows it. Could be reading into it because I love Ellen, though ;) . Kara is just so awkward, she gives some good feedback, but for me it is overshadowed by her lame attempts to be flirty with Simon, lol.

  69. As for the fact that they don’t have the same chemistry as the old panel, DUH! They’ve been together for two weeks.

    True – but they don’t seem to be having any fun.. well, I’M not having any fun watching them anyway.

  70. Tiger92

    Here’s YouTube of Natasha Bedingfield’s cover of The Scientist. The tempo is faster than what Katelyn did on Idol last night, and Katelyn played piano while the main instrument here is guitar.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsUK4mlv9m0

    Here’s Katelyn’s version from last night

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbMOq5FmrTo

    And just to throw it in there, here’s the version Kris did at his gig in mid-February (he couldn’t remember the 2nd verse)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEwO3Q4xnZc

  71. Moved to Adam’s SYTYCD thread. Sorry posted in the wrong place .

  72. That’s why most of them pull it off by singing a cover of a cover. Or they sing a different arrangement that they pulled from youtube or one they had been singing for a while in bars or shows. (and who knows where it came from)

    Which is perfectly fine with me as long as they do it well…. And, if somebody asks, explain where they got the idea — or, to be really nice, explain who and what your inspiration was before you’re asked.

    I actually think it’s perfectly fine with most everybody, including the judges. I still don’t hear the judges — and certainly not the audience — insisting that everybody do *original* rearrangements of songs or even do rearrangements at all. All I hear anybody saying is — Please do the song in a way that seems credible coming from you, that suits your voice, and that comes across as a focused performance.

    Honestly, I think all the other demands that people seem to believe are being made on the contestants aren’t actually being made. I think that’s just a misunderstanding.

  73. I miss Paula. She was the spoonful of sugar that made the bitter medicine palatable. I miss her sweetness, which the others don’t have and can’t duplicate.

  74. Kara is just so awkward, she gives some good feedback, but for me it is overshadowed by her lame attempts to be flirty with Simon, lol.

    For me, I think Kara’s antics smack of someone who is trying too hard to fit in and trying too hard to be in the “boys club”.

    AI has shot itself in the foot. The first mis-step was the 4 judge format. I don’t care who they are, 4 is too many. The second mis-step was that they changed their mind midstream. Each year, they have been putting more and more contestants in that have a lot of experience. Now this year (as evidence in their commercials and talent selection), they want to get back to the “found a diamond in the rough” ala SueBo kind of show(Oh, look she is just a sandwich maker). Well, now that we have seen polished talent, the raw talent appears, well. . .green. And to my untrained ears, green = bad. They may be able to sit there and say so and so has a great tone or would have a nice voice for the radio, but to me it just sounds “not great”. Maybe some day it will, but I’m not a talent scout – give me someone that can sing TODAY.

  75. I feel thats what’s lacking with the S9 rearrangements (for the most part). They are just changing the song for its own sake.

    I feel the big problem this year is that we have WAY more inexperienced people on the show than in year’s past, and that that inexperience means they aren’t as aware of their musical identity, and they don’t have the epxerience as a performer or singer to really fit a song to their style and make it their own. That’s why we’re getting a lot of “rearranging for the sake of rearranging” rather than, say, just knowing your style and being true to that. You don’t always HAVE to do a whole reworking of the song – you just have to stay true to yourself, while still putting on a good show.

    I miss the days when we seemed to have more polished performers, people who had been in bands, or performed a lot. All I see on stage this year is a lot of nerves and awkwardness, and a lack of a lot of self-confidence. With a few exceptions (like Crystal)

  76. I do not miss Paula one bit because her inane little fights with Simon had gotten on my last nerve. Kara’s gotten better and IMO has given the best advice though she’s still having her off moments and I don’t like how she’s so limited by mainstream thinking. I think she’s the only judge who sees the same potential in Katelyn as I do but I think that has a lot to do with how Katelyn gets the songwriter wheels in Kara’s head turning. That’s how I’d sum up her judging actually – if you perform something that makes her realize what kind of song she’d write with you or for you then her feedback is useful. But if you’re too left or right of center and she can’t imagine how she’d write for you then her feedback isn’t useful.

    I think the judges have been a lot better this year about giving useful feedback. How long that’ll last we’ll see. IMO that does relate to Paula’s absence because they’re trying to keep the gibberish-spewing minimal and I believe Ellen’s professionalism has also had an effect. That having been said it wouldn’t be bad if 1 of the judges did try to be the “heart” after some of the others were negative.

    Savan Kotecha wrote Britney Spears’ “If U Seek Amy”? Ugh. Ugh. UGH.

    That’s not even the worst of it. He also cowrote the Season 4 coronation song Inside Your Heaven which gets my vote as THE worst coronation song ever. He also cowrote Quitter on Carrie’s current album which has a nice sound but is really poor lyrically. Andrew Frampton cowrote Kris’s LLWD and Written All Over My Face and a bunch of Natasha Bedingfield songs. This is probably a 19 hookup where they see where it goes.

    iTunes updates. Is it interesting that an album cut (I Still Believe) is outselling Danny’s single (MBD)?

    Didn’t it also happen with Allison with Scars outselling FIBOU? Neither of them is selling much and I’m sure MBD will surge past the album track after Danny’s performance. IMO what it says is that Danny’s fans are buying the album and the single hasn’t had much impact for him as of now.

  77. Now this year (as evidence in their commercials and talent selection), they want to get back to the “found a diamond in the rough” ala SueBo kind of show(

    Yeah, I guess this is the search for Susan Boyle, isn’t it. … The problem with that is that, on Britain’s Got Talent, for a long time, pretty much all she had to do was sing the same song over and over. That show really doesn’t demand all that much in way of repertoire.

    Idol demands a ton, however. It’s one thing to be able to wow everybody with a few songs you know and have sung for years and it’s another to have to pull a new wow song out of your hat week after week after week, while simultaneously practicing group numbers, filming Ford commercials, and doing a ton of interviews.

    I don’t think Susan B could have handled that. Like, at all.

  78. zuper – your comments are spot on! Yes! Going back to the unpolished performers is looking really really bad compared to the polished, seasoned performers we’ve had in years past. And I’m not just talking about last year – heck, most of the winners since the beginning have had quite a bit of previous experience. And we’ve had tons of people working in bands for years (Daughtry, Cook, etc.) or performing for years (Adam, Kris, Archie). Even Danny’s work with the church gave him a lot of experience performing.

    OTOH, Alex Lambert’s “oh, I’ve performed maybe 3 times ever” just isn’t gonna cut it compared to that.

    And Simon, especially, is pissing me off this year by actually telling me these people sound good. I don’t think so, Simon. I have a trained ear, and I can tell crap when I hear it. Do not tell me someone is a great singer, and has a great voice, when they are out of tune most of the performance. Unless Tay Swift has really just lowered the bar that much for this show this year (ok, sorry – end of rant)

  79. Mary102 Hard to believe that anyone else has the same opinion that I do. It seemed like all I heard is how too ‘professional’ some of the contestants have been. I always said that there is nothing more boring than watching a bunch of inexperienced contestants bumble around on the stage. Its nice to watch growth, but they really can’t start from square one and turn into a recording artist in a few short months.

  80. Here are a couple of quotes from Jason & Molly from The Bachelor Wedding about Jason Castro.

    How did Jason Castro from American Idol get involved with the wedding?
    Molly: We both loved Jason Castro’s version of “Somewhere Over the Rainbow” so we reached out to him and he was great about it. We were blown away. It was perfect. He’s a really good guy.

    http://www.film.com/tv/the-bachelor/story/bachelor-jason-molly-talk-wedding/32558376

    On performer Jason Castro of “American Idol”

    Molly: I always knew when I walked down the aisle, I didn’t want to walk down to the typical wedding march song. I wanted to do something more modern. Jason and I both love the version of “Somewhere Over the Rainbow” that Jason Castro sang on “American Idol.” The person who did it originally has passed away … so it was a very easy choice to see if [Jason Castro] would do this favor for us. He was absolutely phenomenal, blew us away.

    Jason: He was a really good guy.

    http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2010/03/bachelor-jason-mesnick-molly-malaney-on-the-wedding-american-idols-jason-castro.html

  81. Mary102+zuper+koshka = mind meld.

    I wonder if the people at AI have realized what a mistake they have made this year. Do you think they will be trying to give this group more help than in previous years to make up for it?

    I’m tired of hearing “that wasn’t the right song for you” over and over. For me, that translates to “we sure picked the wrong contestants”.

  82. Mary102 Hard to believe that anyone else has the same opinion that I do. It seemed like all I heard is how too ‘professional’ some of the contestants have been. I always said that there is nothing more boring than watching a bunch of inexperienced contestants bumble around on the stage. Its nice to watch growth, but they really can’t start from square one and turn into a recording artist in a few short months.

    Exactly. I’ve always been in favor of more polish and experience than not – it just makes for a more commanding, interesting, well done performance (so we, the audience, win!! Yea!)

    And as for growth, Kris was a good example of that last year, or Allison – they had experience before, and started off in a nice place, and just got better and grew throughout the season. Or, take someone like Adam, who didn’t really have room to grow much on the show, in terms of confidence or ability, but definitely grew in terms of taking risks, offering new twists or unexpected performances. Performers like the three of them could keep the interest going week after week just because of their ability and experience – they knew who they were as artists and just ran with it.

    But I think one of my greatest pet peeves this year has got to be the lack of self-confidence. I think that’s what Simon is seeing when he says that no one really jumps out to him as a star. Granted, maybe that confidence will grow during the season, but right now I’m seeing too much “aww shucks” from (almost) everyone.

  83. And Simon, especially, is pissing me off this year by actually telling me these people sound good. I don’t think so, Simon. I have a trained ear, and I can tell crap when I hear it.

    I have the strong feeling that he, the other judges, and the producers pretty quickly noticed what we’re noticing here — that they may have picked a group that’s just too inexperienced on average to produce the number of good performances that the show seems to need to keep audiences happy and to be good musical entertainment.

    So, having noticed, they’re flailing around trying to convince us that the show is really good, trying to drum up lust or sympathy votes for some of the contestants to draw the audience in, trying to give the contestants an intense quickie course in how to become great singers and performers stat, trying to give some of them the confidence that they seem to lack to hit it out of the park, etc. …. In short, using every possible option they can think of either to turn this crap into diamonds over night or to convince a substantial number of viewers that it’s diamonds already.

  84. And SQUEEEE about the Vh1 unplugged performance!!! Yea!! Marking calendar accordingly!!

    Don’t we get acousting DTRH and Broken Open with this? If so, I will DIE!!! :-)

  85. I’m tired of hearing “that wasn’t the right song for you” over and over. For me, that translates to “we sure picked the wrong contestants”.

    Me, too. Especially when you think of the contrasting response when things are going well: “You can sing anything, dude!”

    I think they mainly say “that wasn’t the right song for you” because otherwise they’d have to say “you really did a mediocre — or crummy — job with that.” It probably would be hard to keep saying *that* over and over again, so the “not the right song” excuse seems less painful to express.

  86. Mary102, zuper, koshka, lucy.. Get out of my head!

    This is kind of what I was trying to say in the girls thread earlier but you all have said it much better. Someone will get a contract and be headlining the Idol tour. So far, I can’t picture any of this cast having enough charisma to draw crowds. It’s all very amateur this season and I think Idol really messed up big time.

  87. “you picked the wrong song” just seems like a cover up. Like, sheesh, you sounded like crap but we put you in the competition and said you can sing, but wait, you can’t. So it must be your fault because you picked the wrong song.

  88. lucy – I think that’s it exactly. If they went through the whole show just saying “that was horrible, that was out of tune”, etc. why would anyone bother watching anymore? We need our healthy mix of trainwrecks and brilliant performances.

    I think it’s also wise that they’re trying to give constructive feedback, as you mention. I only caught the end of the guys’ performance on Tuesday, and heard them mention to Lee that he needs to work on pitch (yes, please!) Or calling Haeley out on the tone of her voice. Better that than just either calling them horrendous without any hope of getting better, or praising them to the heavens for giving a sub par performance.

  89. Oh, and as for judges on AI – am I alone in totally wanting Michael Slezak to be on the panel? Probs not happening, but his reviews remain some of the funniest, most spot on out there. Just putting that out there ;-)

  90. I think that having seen what some can do to rearrange a song well or pick a good cover of a cover (depending on your taste – David Cook, Kris, or Adam), I think the judges have set this as a new expectation. However, I don’t think they fully understand how difficult this is or how few can do it.

    With David, I think of the ones he himself redid fundamentally, like Little Sparrow and Always Be My Baby. These were not borrowed cover arrangements, he did them himself, and they are radically different from the originals, and represent an improvement, IMO. IMO, Kris’s and Adam’s rewrites were very similar to covers done by others, just tweaked here and there. Cook had several completely original ones. They required a lot of work, I imagine, and a real songwriting ability. Not everyone can do that. Even adapting another person’s cover, as all three did, takes some work and an idea of what you can do personally. To do it in a week’s time is flat amazing. I doubt if most singing stars of any generation could so completely ‘make a song their own’ in such short time frames and week after week.

    I think the judges were spoiled by these 3 and a few others over the years, and have no idea what they are asking of people who, largely, may be incapable of what they want. Some couldn’t do it with months to try, let alone days. Even finding an interesting alternate version that works for you would be beyond the skills of many singers.

    Rearranging just to rearrange, without songwriting skill, results in what we’ve seen this year, with one exception – Andrew Garcia’s Straight Up version that he’s done that way for some time, I understand.

  91. I howled last night when Randy said that this group was the most unique, diverse group that has ever been on idol. I think he even knew what that sounded like. “Garbage”

  92. No offense but I don’t think Idol is thinking they screwed up. Did you see the ratings MJ posted? Granted, I haven’t watched anything this year (except Allison and Kris’s performances) and don’t know the details of the ratings, but, it is a TV show first and foremost. It doesn’t matter if the contestants all suck if the show keeps getting the ratings.

  93. IndyMuse – I understand your POV, but I think my bigger issue on AI now is not that I need the most brilliant (or even competent) rearranger of songs, but I just need strong performers with good voices, stage presence, and charisma – that’s what I’m lacking this year.

    IMO, the “arranging” of the song, of finding the right cover, or what have you stems naturally from just knowing and trusting yourself as an artist – which is what all the best in the past have been able to do.

    After all, Allison was hardly the most stellar at rearranging songs (at least compared to Cook, Kris, or Adam), but she gave heartfelt, confident, commanding performances every week nonetheless.

    I also think, as has been said, that the contestants wrongly feel they now NEED to rearrange songs to win. That’s not true, imo. Putting on a good show, living and breathing the song on stage, THAT’S what people are looking for.

  94. lorismile – that thought occured to me too ;-) As long as it’s working, I guess it doesn’t matter to TPTB. However, a lot of critics and casaul AI viewers I’ve heard from don’t seem to be digging this year as much as past years, so we’ll see how long the ratings increase lasts. I’m not hearing about as many “watercooler moments” from AI this year, nor is it viewed as “must see tv” as much as in the past.

  95. Does anyone know if pretty piano girl’s (can’t remember her name at this moment) arrangement sounds like the Natasha Bedingfield version? Simon called her on it, but she denied it.

    I actually believed Katelyn on that. I don’t think they’re that much alike, really. Seems like Simon was just projecting–two pretty blondes covering the same song.

  96. However, a lot of critics and casaul AI viewers I’ve heard from don’t seem to be digging this year as much as past years, so we’ll see how long the ratings increase lasts. I’m not hearing about as many “watercooler moments” from AI this year, nor is it viewed as “must see tv” as much as in the past.

    I think people are thinking the tide might’ve started to turn with last night.

    But also I think it’s too soon to say the lack of experience thing is an experiment gone bad. The criticism the last few years has been that the best have peaked too soon and there’s been no growth arc. If we’re going to see a growth arc now it’s obviously not going to be until later in the competition and that’s what the producers want. The top 12 will have had the chance to start building up some confidence and get used to the cameras and stuff in 3 weeks then they graduate to the bigger stage and hopefully by then they’ve learned enough not to be swallowed up by it. Plus hopefully they’ve learned enough about song choices to not make really bad ones.

    The key for the producers IMO is the buzz growing during the finals, not during this middle round where the ratings have usually been lower. For me the last couple of seasons I got bored with the people I’d thought were the best because I didn’t think they were bringing anything new the last few weeks and I was over them being in AI and wanted to FF to their albums. This year there might be a better chance of the last few weeks still feeling fresh because it takes longer for the people who last to come into their own.

  97. Simon started the whole ‘don’t stand there and be boring’ thing last year when Danny sang Endless Love. Now I remember it being a very nice, heartfelt performance but Simon had to go and compare it to ‘Hello’..because ya know god forbid you sing a Lionel Richie song straight anymore LOL I love rearranged songs as much as the next person but I also kinda miss the days when AI was a singing competition. I do agree taking these songs and changing them up is a lot harder than it seems. Don’t rearrange it just for the sake of rearranging it. Looking at the last two winners you can’t blame these people for thinking its something they should be doing.

    IndyMuse ITA. Simon seems to be stuck on Billie Jean and Hello as the benchmark for how to do something original with a song but ironically I always felt Always Be My Baby was the best performance that season, and it really was all original.

  98. Mary102:
    03/04/2010 at 3:12 pm
    After all, Allison was hardly the most stellar at rearranging songs (at least compared to Cook, Kris, or Adam), but she gave heartfelt, confident, commanding performances every week nonetheless.

    TRUE!
    Allison’s interviewing skills are a disaster, but you can’t touch her in those very things you mentioned. This season’s contestants give brilliant interviews(likable), but are as awkward as a cow on roller skates when they perform on stage – whatever genius arrangement might that be.

    performance performance, performance

  99. Mary102, I agree with you actually. My comments related more to the crazy judge comments. I believe they are looking for something in these singers that is exceedingly rare. I don’t blame Simon for being stuck on “Hello” and “Billie Jean”, but he simply doesn’t know what he’s asking of them. Better to get them focused on singing on key first, which largely hasn’t happened. Even the best of them have hit a lot of clunkers that wouldn’t have gone unnoticed in the past. When all are doing it, though, what can you do? There is a lot of scooping up to a note that I don’t think is entirely intentional.

    I like a Lilith Fair sound, but only if its well done, and most have not been.

  100. Scott on AI next week, wow. I didn’t quite believe it when I read it before, but I guess now that it’s really happening…Hmmm. IDK, I guess I would have put about a dozen other top finalists from year’s past on before him. But good for him.

    Thank god we at least know Adam is also performing later in the season or else that would have just been the ultimate WTF with Scott appearing instead.

  101. No offense but I don’t think Idol is thinking they screwed up. Did you see the ratings MJ posted?

    Yeah, the ratings scared me! I still believe that they may have originally thought they screwed up — but I agree that those ratings have probably made them change their minds. … … But, on the bright side, there’s always time for the ratings to go down again!

    On the rearrangement question — I do think they were spoiled by DC, and by Kris and Adam, secondarily, to some extent.

    But honestly I don’t think they hold rearrangement out as an absolute — Crystal isn’t exactly rearranging anything, and they like her.

    And I believe that if a Carrie, or Kelly, or Elliott, or Melinda came along doing just a very fine, individual *version* of something — extremely well sung, focused, believable — that they’d be just as impressed with that as they ever were and as they’d be with a rearrangement. … Can’t say for sure, of course, since we haven’t had any performances within miles of those recently.

    Bottom line, though, *I* think what they want is a technically good, focused, believable performance from an artist who’s clearly comfortable singing the song they’ve chosen in the way they’ve chosen and who is putting across that performance to the audience. I think that is truly what satisfies them — whether the song is rearranged or whether it’s not.. …. You can do your version of a song without substantially “rearranging” it, through your phrasings, your shadings, your dynamics, your little rhythmic alterations, your embellishments or the lack of them, your tempo and tempo changes, your expression of the lyrics. And I think the judges know enough about music to honor and respect such performances, when they’re good, as much, or at least *almost* as much, as they respect actual rearrangements.

  102. OMG I’m so excited for Adam’s Unplugged episode! What a sweet gig for him!! :D

  103. Cannot wait for unplugged DTRH!

    Me Too!!!

    ETA: there are some other clips we posted in the SYTYCD thread – Adam stuff. Trying not to clog the headlines with all Adam news. iheartradio videos, toronto video interview, etc..

  104. OMG – I need to take a week off from work just to catch up on all the Adam goodies I missed the last few days while being on vacation. Damn, he needs to slow down for a minute (j/k – no he doesn’t ;-) )

  105. Bobby Bennett, #3. I blocked him out, lol. I need to catch up on the others I forgot to go read that article.

  106. Fans of the previous season predicting (hoping?) that the new season is going to be a disaster. Another annual idol tradition.

    That’s how I’d sum up her judging actually – if you perform something that makes her realize what kind of song she’d write with you or for you then her feedback is useful. But if you’re too left or right of center and she can’t imagine how she’d write for you then her feedback isn’t useful.

    That’s an interesting take on Kara. IA that when she was criticizing Katelyn I felt like she had a spark in her eyes that said “I could write a hit song for this girl”. Maybee just my imagination.

  107. Excited about unplugged!!!

    (monotone ) yay,Scotty mac.Maybe if we get lucky h won’t song and instead he’ll describe his lunch to us…

  108. I don’t like this season so far (and NOT just because there int enough glitter)

    kara’s annoying me more than usual.what a b*tch.I feel bad for her husband.

    Mary102,I know what you mean!! That’s how u felt when I was gone or 2 weeks
    WTF am I even doing here lol? I have 3 major projects due tomorrow which I haven’t even strted on
    girlygirl those are creepy.I posted a pic of adam croc things (o_0) in headlines yesterday .weird.

  109. (monotone ) yay,Scotty mac.Maybe if we get lucky h won’t song and instead he’ll describe his lunch to us…

    luv – you are too funny!!! I am still giggeling

    on the other hand Scott may surprise us, let’s see. I think even he is better then some of the boys this season.

  110. I actually like that the contestants are a bit green. I am more of a fan of the show then the contestants careers afterward though. I think the greener contestants might not give as strong performances, but make the show more compelling week to week. When a contestant already has an established style after a few weeks you already know what to expect from them. I would in the context of this show much prefer an Alex Lambert to an Adam Lambert.

    I do think Paula’s absence is noticeable. Ellen has not stepped up to be compassionate enough I don’t think, but this is only her second week of live shows and each time she seems more comfortable to me. I am glad Paula is gone, however, because I don’t miss the stupid shit with Simon. I don’t know if Ellen was the right choice, but I don’t think the empathy Paula brought is really anything that special, and I think could be found in others.

  111. Why does my iPod always subsitute I with u? Sorry..

    Because they are right next to each other. hehe

  112. I am excited not just about the unplugged performances from VH1, because I’m sure they’ll sound all purty. But also for a Michelle Collins interview with Adam. Yay! I love those. She genuinely and actually makes me laugh. And not at her, but with her.

  113. promoting themselves by putting out a single to benefit

    promoting themselves?really?lol
    seriously,that’s really cool
    I miss Paula too!!! So much!!
    It’s a tv show it should be entertaining
    oh and i orgot to say welcome back mary102! and yes,dc radio does suck

  114. Because they are right next to each other. hehe

    yeah,but the iPod has something to do with it (conspiracy theory time)lol.Everything else is my annoying typos.;)

    sorry about the double post!

  115. IndyMuse: My comments related more to the crazy judge comments. I believe they are looking for something in these singers that is exceedingly rare. I don’t blame Simon for being stuck on “Hello” and “Billie Jean”, but he simply doesn’t know what he’s asking of them.

    Sorry for interrupting, but just had to say that I agree with you 100%. Rearranging a song isn’t something that can be done by just anyone. Perhaps Simon thinks what he’s asking is easy because DC simply made it appear that way.

  116. Oh the things I’d give to hear a breakout performance like Hello this week! Hello was Top 12 week y’know. I’m just waiting for Lee, Andrew, or Crystal to break ahead of the pack. Although some would argue that Crystal has. I guess I just wish they had the DC arranging skills. They weren’t all obscure covers y’know!

  117. I actually like that the contestants are a bit green. I am more of a fan of the show then the contestants careers afterward though. I think the greener contestants might not give as strong performances, but make the show more compelling week to week.

    I would actually enjoy this, too. But I’m pretty sure that that’s not what they’re looking for. Or that most of the audience is looking for. …. I’d be quite happy, personally, with a show in which they took all 24 of these very contestants and worked with them week after week, eliminating no one, to help each one develop as far as they could in three months. …. I’d really enjoy watching that.

    Neither America nor 19 is clamoring for this program, however. And it wouldn’t be American Idol. It’d be something completely different, that couldn’t possibly aim at producing an “Idol” annually, I expect, given the odds against developing so far so fast. Some years they might get one, and other years they might get six, and other years they might get none, I expect — when we’re defining “Idol” by “ready to tour nationally, live, and put out a credible album to sell” at the end of it.

  118. I wish they could have the contestants sing their own songs for one week in the competition maybe top 10. If they haven’t written songs yet maybe they can choose something else.

  119. There are some experienced contestant this year.
    Maybee no one has as much experience as Adam in front of an audience but they have almost all been into music for a long time. Lee has an album, Casey was in a band that toured a lot, Andrew has a lot stuff in the internet, Didi has been working with Kara co writer, Katelyn was in two bands before Idol…

    I do think some of the appeal of Idol is to take “green” contestant and to turn them into a star. People want to see improvement.

    It’s the difference between Rockstar and Idol. Rockstar was like when a player in the minor leagues is called to the majors while Idol takes them directly from college or even high school and make them face Albert Pujols. No doubt there are some trainwrecks in the beginning, it’s the ultimate sink or swim moment.

  120. I’m planning on buying Lee’s album before it goes the way of Analog Heart. I just gotta run to walmart and get a iTunes card.

  121. I think I like, too, that there’s room for growth this year, I hope that some of these kids really start to shine. It’s funny that now people are unhappy because the kids are so green… but for the past two seasons people were unhappy because the kids were too slick and experienced. Maybe it’s a bit jarring to go to this *many* inexperienced kids. I am still giving it time, there were glimmers of hope this week at least. Same for Ellen, I feel like she’s trying to find her way right now, and I think she’ll be fine. Someone just needs to hose down Kara :) .

  122. Fans of the previous season predicting (hoping?) that the new season is going to be a disaster. Another annual idol tradition.

    Maybe. But to me it’s pretty clear that the chemistry between the judges has changed dramatically. Kara keeps inching closer to Simon and he looks like he can barely tolerate her. There’s no love lost between Ellen and Simon either. It’s like attending a Thanksgiving dinner where most of the family loathes each other and is only there out of a sense of duty. It’s uncomfortable and joyless. Even Ryan’s little digs at Simon are coming off sounding petty and mean.

    Couple that with a group of people who look absolutely petrified to be there and the show is becoming painful to watch.

  123. Rockstar was like when a player in the minor leagues is called to the majors while Idol takes them directly from college or even high school and make them face Albert Pujols.

    Cookie pitched to Pujols once in an American Legion baseball game. He said the ball never landed though. hehe

  124. I think the judging has improved, and I think a lot of these kids are showing promise. There was a marked improvement between weeks one and two and there is no reason to believe there won’t be another upgrade next week. Usually the top 12 has a handful of real contenders and the rest are mostly strong singers of varies styles who ain’t gonna win, with a couple of entertaining clunkers thrown in. No reason to think this season won’t be exactly the same.

  125. Did somebody upthread say that Scott, as in Scott MacIntyre, is going to sing on Idol this season? Come on, that has to be a typo or false rumor.

  126. It’s funny that now people are unhappy because the kids are so green… but for the past two seasons people were unhappy because the kids were too slick and experienced.

    Well, I never waffled – I was always firmly rooted in camp “give me more experience over less any day”. And from day one with this season I said I was afraid they might make it too much about finding people with less experience, rather than people with too much of it.

  127. luvadamlambert:
    03/04/2010 at 4:54 pm
    Scott may surprise us

    yeah,and Adam’s going to give up his singing career and become an acountant then marry Sarah palin…

    LOL – LOL – LOL -giggle giggle…

  128. tinawina:
    03/04/2010 at 5:31 pm
    I think the judging has improved, and I think a lot of these kids are showing promise. There was a marked improvement between weeks one and two and there is no reason to believe there won’t be another upgrade next week. Usually the top 12 has a handful of real contenders and the rest are mostly strong singers of varies styles who ain’t gonna win, with a couple of entertaining clunkers thrown in. No reason to think this season won’t be exactly the same.

    Very true. I think this was a strong consensus after last week’s clunkers too.

    Maybe the Top 36 format from last year just made it work better for me, as in, we could easily get rid of the 9 peeps each week who clearly weren’t really going to ever win, and just keep three. I generall feel that way after watching this year’s early rounds too. It’s basically what happens every year I guess.

  129. Well, I never waffled – I was always firmly rooted in camp “give me more experience over less any day”.

    Right, but there definitely has been lots of chatter not even only here in the past seasons about “plants” – and people even questioned if people like Cook should be allowed on the show because he had an album out (never mind that my brother also has an album out – and he is very, very far from famous, lol – anyone can put an album out if you can pay for it). I didn’t pay as much attention last year but I know S7 there was a lot of talk about Carly’s record deal, Michael John’s past record deal, Archie’s Star Search, etc.

    Scotty Mac: Better or worse than most of the top 12 guys?

    I feel bad but I find him unwatchable. I wanted him off my TV last year, badly.

  130. Scotty Mac: Better or worse than most of the top 12 guys?

    Worse than Tim Urban. One of the worst contestants the show has ever had. I can’t believe he is going to be back on.

  131. sbalk017:
    03/04/2010 at 5:33 pm
    Scotty Mac: Better or worse than most of the top 12 guys?

    better than most, but not better than Lee or Andrew.

  132. I think I like, too, that there’s room for growth this year, I hope that some of these kids really start to shine. It’s funny that now people are unhappy because the kids are so green… but for the past two seasons people were unhappy because the kids were too slick and experienced. Maybe it’s a bit jarring to go to this *many* inexperienced kids. I am still giving it time, there were glimmers of hope this week at least.

    Yeah. In a perfect Idol universe, you would have a blend of diamonds in the rough alongside more experienced talent. I don’t like it if the entire cast is too polished. There’s liitle room for growth if everyone in 90% complete before they hit the stage. If Idol is supposed to be at least partly about this great ‘journey’ you need someone who can make noticeable strides. That way, we’ll appreciate what they’ve accomplished all the more, IMO.

    More than anything, it’s how TPTB sells it. They can weave gold out of straw if so inclined.

    Scotty Mac: Better or worse than most of the top 12 guys?

    Worse than Tim Urban. One of the worst contestants the show has ever had. I can’t believe he is going to be back on.

    Doesn’t his appearance have something to do with Scott not getting to perform with his celebrity on dueling pianos for the S8 Finale? Guess the producers wanted to save face with that just a bit.

  133. Fans of the previous season predicting (hoping?) that the new season is going to be a disaster.

    It did occur to me that Cook/Archie fans were probably making the same comments at the start of last year.

    But I’ll be the first to readily admit that Adam may have officially ruined Idol for me. I still enjoy the show and will continue to watch and maybe even vote and root for people (a la S6 in the aftermath of my Daughtry worship), but that’s about it for now.

    Oh, and I’ll reserve judgement till after we’ve given these guys a few more weeks to show their stuff, but I will say that the general consensus from the day-to-day fans and critics (not just people like me totally obsessed with a previous contestant) seems to be pretty lackluster right now. But again, things can definitely change.

  134. Right, but there definitely has been lots of chatter not even only here in the past seasons about “plants” – and people even questioned if people like Cook should be allowed on the show because he had an album out

    And I’ve never understood that. Without launching into any kind of debate over who had too much experience before idol, I’ll just say that I think the current rules are pretty fair – if you have a current contract, you can’t do the show, but otherwise, you’re just another struggling musician trying to make it in a very difficult industry.

    Scotty Mac: Better or worse than most of the top 12 guys?

    Worse than Tim Urban. One of the worst contestants the show has ever had. I can’t believe he is going to be back on.

    Hells no! Not worse than Urban! Though I’ll admit Scott is still one of the worst they’ve ever had, just not as bad as Urban.

  135. Oh, and I’ll reserve judgement till after we’ve given these guys a few more weeks to show their stuff, but I will say that the general consensus from the day-to-day fans and critics (not just people like me totally obsessed with a previous contestant) seems to be pretty lackluster right now. But again, things can definitely change.

    You weren’t around last year? Maybee it’s just me but it felt like it was even worse. Several idol bloggers saying that the show had jumped the shark with the top 36 format, the completely arranged wildcard show, the obvious pimpage of three contestants, Normund and Tatiana…

    It’s great to see that now “Alone” or “Hero” are considered landmark performances when at the time every other comment accentuated the fact that we hadn’t seen a “Hello” or “Imagine” or “Hallelujah”…

    IMO, several blogs at this time of the season are occupied by mostly fans of the previous one and it takes a little for new fans to join the circus. Of course sometimes it never happens like in season 6.

  136. You weren’t around last year? Maybee it’s just me but it felt like it was even worse. Several idol bloggers saying that the show had jumped the shark with the top 36 format, the completely arranged wildcard show, the obvious pimpage of three contestants, Normund and Tatiana…

    I wasn’t on MJ’s, but was on EW, and was very familiar with the comments about the Wild Card, Top 36, four judges etc ruining AI. And, actually I still think 4 judges was a mistake, so that still stands.

    My biggest issue, personally, with this year, though, is with the contestants. Just no WOW moments jumping out at me. I know it takes time, but believe me, even before I loved certain contestants last year, I at least recognized the WOW factor in them, even in the early stages. Again, this is just personal, and for me it boils down to the fact that this year TPTB are focusing too much on indie artists that are just generally not my cuppa (where are my rockers, damn it!) and that they’re focusing on people with less polish and experience (again, something I don’t like in my idol contestants).

  137. haha this is too cute.

    ImMattGiraud: # The plane I’m on officially supports American Idol. 1 because I’m on it and 2 it’s playing “Time of My Life” by @thedavidcook good Jam man
    about 2 hours ago via Echofon

    thedavidcook: @ImMattGiraud – thank you sir. Must’ve been quite the experience, flying by the very magic rainbow I was singing about…
    about 1 hours ago via mobile web

  138. Valentin432’s right. It’s like this every season. Personally, I’m enjoying this season a lot, especially compared to the first two-thirds of last year. S8 really didn’t get good until the Top 5.

    I actually think the judges have improved this year – Ellen’s still finding her footing but Simon is the most on-point and engaged I’ve seen him in years, and even Randy and Kara have at least increased the percentage of cogent, constructive commentary in their remarks. I just think the tone is more professional and focused than it has been in a long time, even when I factor in a lot of Kara’s increasingly embarrassing behavior.

    Also? I’m *really* loving having some interesting girls to root for.

  139. Fans of the previous season predicting (hoping?) that the new season is going to be a disaster.

    Yep, it is the “song that never ends, it goes round and round my friend.” LOL Each year there are a bunch of ‘stans who stay stuck in the previous season, convinced their guy or girl was the be all and end all of the show and then -SURPRISE-the show moves on just fine and new contestants catch on. Last year it was DC fans. This year it’s Adam’s fans. This time next year I expect there will be a bunch of Crystal Bowersox fans who sniff at all the new contestants and complain about how none of them are as awesome as Crystal.

  140. haha this is too cute.

    ImMattGiraud: # The plane I’m on officially supports American Idol. 1 because I’m on it and 2 it’s playing “Time of My Life” by @thedavidcook good Jam man
    about 2 hours ago via Echofon

    thedavidcook: @ImMattGiraud – thank you sir. Must’ve been quite the experience, flying by the very magic rainbow I was singing about…
    about 1 hours ago via mobile web

    It’s even cuter when you see what Dave’s reply tweet looked like on an iPhone. The emoticon he used could only be seen on certain phones. Cook is a funny dude:

    http://twitpic.com/16mdz1

  141. It’s even cuter when you see what Dave’s reply tweet looked like on an iPhone. The emoticon he used could only be seen on certain phones. Cook is a funny dude:

    http://twitpic.com/16mdz1

    Ha! What a goofball with the little rainbow emoticon. He is too funny.

    (And the Magic Rainbow REALLY will never die)

  142. My biggest issue, personally, with this year, though, is with the contestants. Just no WOW moments jumping out at me. I know it takes time, but believe me, even before I loved certain contestants last year, I at least recognized the WOW factor in them, even in the early stages. Again, this is just personal, and for me it boils down to the fact that this year TPTB are focusing too much on indie artists that are just generally not my cuppa (where are my rockers, damn it!) and that they’re focusing on people with less polish and experience (again, something I don’t like in my idol contestants).

    I completely understand where you’re coming from and that’s another element that makes the transition even harder from season 8 to 9, they are a completely different crew of contestants.

    Personally, even tough they were awesome last year I’m kind of over “rockers” on Idol. I loved both Adam and Allison (still do) but I am not happy that they didn’t go the whole way and record a rock album (and no I don’t want to have the whole discussion over Adam being a multi faceted artist, I have paid my dues on that front).
    What’s the point to present yourself in a certain way for 15 weeks in front of 25 million viewers. if it’s to sell the last Max Martin single afterwards?

  143. LaurelG:
    03/04/2010 at 5:26 pm

    Maybe. But to me it’s pretty clear that the chemistry between the judges has changed dramatically. Kara keeps inching closer to Simon and he looks like he can barely tolerate her.

    It’s funny you should say that. Last night Jimmy Kimmel made fun of Kara’s inching closer and closer to Simon. Check it out…

    http://abc.go.com/watch/clip/jimmy-kimmel-live/SH005455790000/20957/252905?&clipId=252905&playlistId=20957&cid=siteplayer

  144. lol magic rainbow is the only dc song on my iPod!!! I was never a fan on idol-I barely noticed him(don’t kill me please).But I FLIVE the little lies thing with Kris dc and adam :)

    I wouldn’t say Adam “ruined” idol for me,just because I’ve found my idol doesn’t mean I’m not obsessed with the show still.

  145. What’s the point to present yourself in a certain way for 15 weeks in front of 25 million viewers. if it’s to sell the last Max Martin single afterwards?

    I guess for the same reason Danny went country, Archie went teenie pop, Cook went soft rock, etc. Allison’s 1st single wasn’t a young Janis Joplin vibe. Kris’ album isn’t striped down and acoustic.

    The songs that work on AI are very different from the songs that are hitting it big on radio. Can you see someone doing Bad Romance or Tik Tok on Idol? Now, that would be interesting!

  146. Can you see someone doing Bad Romance or Tik Tok on Idol? Now, that would be interesting!

    Are you joking? Bad Romance was featured very heavily on group day.

  147. I think the key for rearranging songs is to really listen to the lyrics and what they are saying then going with a vibe that fits. I feel like Kris, Adam & Cook in particular were really good at getting to the guts of a song. I feel thats what’s lacking with the S9 rearrangements (for the most part). They are just changing the song for its own sake.

    I think so too. It’s that they found a song that they could fit into their style.

    I have also noticed in thinking about it that the most sucessful rearrangements do not really change the basic melody of the song. They may change the tempo, and the instrumentation like with Billie Jean and Hello, and with Kris with Heartless, but they didn’t really make huge changes to the vocal melody. They did just enough to change the genre and style of the song while keeping the song intact.

  148. lol magic rainbow is the only dc song on my iPod!!! I was never a fan on idol-I barely noticed him(don’t kill me please).But I FLIVE the little lies thing with Kris dc and adam

    OMG. *stab* Just kidding. LOL Of all songs you have the magic rainbow? Blech. And I say blech as a huge Cookie fan. (You should get the album). Plus he’s hot. I’m so shallow.

  149. Carrie and Daughtry made albums that reflected their persona on the show. No matter who wins Idol you can be 100% confident that Max Martin, Ryan Tedder and Kara will be writing songs for their album. I can already hear them.

    That’s why the whole singer/songwriter thing will never work for Idol. Those types are like poets where the song writing talent is #1. Why spend weeks listening to singers like that do kareoke. Pretty big waste of time. How about one night of them doing an original song.

  150. I was never a fan on idol-I barely noticed him(don’t kill me please).

    What?!?!?

    I do think it’s hard when you get really invested in a contestant to move onto the next season. You fave is still very much in the public eye with songs on the charts, playing shows, and doing press, so it’s pretty easy to stay focused on them rather than getting into a whole new crop of unknowns.

    Personally I’m enjoying S9 so far. The guys are pretty weak (IMO) but it’s an interesting group of women, very different from the typical AI Mariah/Whitney/Celine singers. And I agree with those upthread that aside from Kara’s really ill-advised attempts to fill the Paula “girlie girl” role the judging seems more focused and coherent than in recent years. If Ellen hits her stride and Kara settles down and stays in her own chair it could be a pretty decent judges panel (still would rather have just 3 though).

  151. It’s funny that now people are unhappy because the kids are so green… but for the past two seasons people were unhappy because the kids were too slick and experienced.

    Well, I never waffled – I was always firmly rooted in camp “give me more experience over less any day”. And from day one with this season I said I was afraid they might make it too much about finding people with less experience, rather than people with too much of

    Me too!

    It’s that too many of them are too green. It’s not America’s Most Improved Idol. I don’t mind a couple of growth arc peeps. It loses its charm when 5 of the 10 guys are literally scared to get on the stage.
    Kara told Haeley she needed a year to work on her voice. Why didn’t they tell her that in Hollywood and tell her to come back next year?
    Hundreds of thousands of people tried out . I wouldn’t mind a couple of contestants like the two Davids or like Kradison. I’ll still watch, but so far it’s feeling like season 6…with something missing from the contestants and judges.

  152. Personally I’m enjoying S9 so far. The guys are pretty weak (IMO) but it’s an interesting group of women, very different from the typical AI Mariah/Whitney/Celine singers. And I agree with those upthread that aside from Kara’s really ill-advised attempts to fill the Paula “girlie girl” role the judging seems more focused and coherent than in recent years. If Ellen hits her stride and Kara settles down and stays in her own chair it could be a pretty decent judges panel (still would rather have just 3 though).

    Yeah, me too. I likes. Really when you think about it, it looks like the season will be pretty good. Here’s the way I break it down in my head:

    Almost guaranteed in the top 12: Crystal, Lily, Sibbohan, Casey, Big Mike, Andrew, Lee

    Should make it, unless they tank horribly next week out of nowhere: Kaetyln, Alex, Katie

    That’s 10 out of 12 people and to me, they represent a nice mix of mostly interesting singers, some more seasoned than others, but interesting none the less. And when you figure the last 2 spots will likely be filled by ether good singers who are still finding their way (Didi, Paige, arguably Aaron) or entertaining trainwrecks (Haeyley, Tim, Todrick) then its looking pretty good from here to me.

  153. What’s the point to present yourself in a certain way for 15 weeks in front of 25 million viewers. if it’s to sell the last Max Martin single afterwards?

    It’s pretty simple…you record what sells. Pop is selling right now, not rock. If Adam wants a sustained career with his label, he’ll record what sells. Maybe, if he’s lucky and has a lot of success with a couple albums, he’ll be able to record something different…that is, if he indeed wants to record anything different. He likes pop, so who knows.

  154. Carrie and Daughtry made albums that reflected their persona on the show.

    Didn’t a lot of people expect harder rock from Daughtry? I thought people thought he would put out rock that sounded more like Fuel instead of Nickelback. He went more mainstream rock and it ended up working out for him. You can’t blame him for trying to sell albums.

    Carrie hit the mark pretty close. I do think AI country fans were expecting more in the vein of JTTW and not so much Before He Cheats. I bet the BHC mv was a shocker to many of the AI viewers. It all worked out pretty nicely for her too!

  155. It’s pretty simple…you record what sells. Pop is selling right now, not rock. If Adam wants a sustained career with his label, he’ll record what sells. Maybe, if he’s lucky and has a lot of success with a couple albums, he’ll be able to record something different…that is, if he indeed wants to record anything different. He likes pop, so who knows.

    Exactly! If he had recorded a rock album, there’d be a whole host of “experts” potificating on blogs saying things like, “Why the hell did he record a rock album? Everyone knows rock doesn’t get played on the radio!” lol.

    Of course, he could have gone lite-rock like Daughtry, but that would have generated a different set of complaints. (Not knocking Daughtry, btw, I like him.) Can’t please everyone and, as tls said, Adam likes pop.

  156. Didn’t a lot of people expect harder rock from Daughtry? I thought people thought he would put out rock that sounded more like Fuel instead of Nickelback.

    Yep, Fuel or maybe Tool, but not watered down Nickleback. I think that was a greater disappointment to me than him being voted off early.

    I don’t expect them to sing what they do on the show. I mean, seriously, most of what they sing is 20+ years old. Does anyone really expect them to put out albums of 60’s standards or disco? It’s one of the reasons that I hate themes. So often they leave the contestants with nothing but dated sounding music.

    Personally, I like the idea of letting the contestants choose from a group of original songs towards the top 4 or 3, allowing them to work with the band to make it along the lines of their own style.

  157. It’s funny that now people are unhappy because the kids are so green… but for the past two seasons people were unhappy because the kids were too slick and experienced.

    Well, I never waffled – I was always firmly rooted in camp “give me more experience over less any day”. And from day one with this season I said I was afraid they might make it too much about finding people with less experience, rather than people with too much of

    Me too!

    It’s that too many of them are too green. It’s not America’s Most Improved Idol. I don’t mind a couple of growth arc peeps. It loses its charm when 5 of the 10 guys are literally scared to get on the stage.

    I think so too. I liked the past couple of seasons where people had more experience. Especially with the fact that some of these people are going to have a record contract and a cd coming out in the next 6 months.

    I’m not seeing much star quality or charisma yet this season, but I know this might change as the season goes on. Maybe it will be interesting to see them as they develop.

  158. I think I’ve been in the middle on experience. I’m not a huge fan of people who had a major recording contract in the past being on, it seems an unfair advantage, even if they didn’t keep it. Also, having won prior major singing contests seems a tad unfair also. Someone putting out a self-made, self-produced record like David Cook, toiling away in obscurity for years with tons of gigs and barely surviving, I don’t consider an unfair advantage. I also think someone with a lot of high-profile industry connections, even if they were not AI employees, seems like a plant to me. Some theater experience I think is a good thing, or touring experience. I like the middle, where you aren’t scared to perform, but you don’t have a huge advantage or haven’t already had major-label level support.

  159. removing because I think it’s bogus. If it turns out not to be I will apologize tomorrow … :-)

  160. I actually feel like winning a singing contest is something anyone can do with very little experience except for being good. Being in a band for years gives one tons of experience. I was fine with Cook since he didn’t have a recording contract, but I do feel he was VERY experienced, even if it was in obscurity.

  161. Really like how this article starts out talking about the Fantasy Springs concert:

    “Great music should carry you somewhere beyond yourself, to places recollected and imagined. Adam Lambert’s first solo concert at the Fantasy Springs Resort in Indio, California was like riding such a sonic wave into memory and fantasy. ”

    http://www.rockstarweekly.com/content/view/1511/204/

  162. WOW Adam’s voice on Voodoo sounds like nothing else on his CD. It’s like an eighty’s song mixed with today electronics stuff. :-)

  163. Voodoo kind of has a Blondie(Deborah Harry) vibe to it for me? :) I like it, but can see where he thought it did not fit into his album.

  164. lorismile:
    03/04/2010 at 11:05 pm
    “WOW Adam’s voice on Voodoo sounds like nothing else on his CD. It’s like an eighty’s song mixed with today electronics stuff.”

    I love the song and I thought it would be great as a soundtrack for a movie.

  165. KrisAllen

    #I bet Shaun white doesn’t feel like this after he snowboards. about 1 hours ago via Echofon

    LOL – sounds like someone may be a little sore. Hopefully he didn’t actually hurt himself. And nice that he got to relax and have some fun

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