Grammy 2011 – Submissions List

The Grammy Submission lists have leaked. Nearly every Idol who has released music this year has been submitted to the Grammy committee by their record label for consideration.

Check out the Idol list after the jump.

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Category 1 – Record of the Year (840 entered)

Kris Allen – LLWD
David Archuleta – SBL
Bo Bice – You Take Yourself With You
Susan Boyle – I Dreamed A Dream
Charice ft. Iyaz – Pyramid
Daughtry – September
Bed Intruder Song (FTW!)
Fantasia – Bittersweet
Glee Cast – DSB (Regionals version)
Allison Iraheta – DWTP
Adam Lambert – WWFM
Leona Lewis – Happy
Leona Lewis – I See You (Avatar Theme)
Katharine McPhee ft. Zachary Levi – Terrified
Orianthi – ATY
The Script – Breakeven
Jessica Sierra – Enough
Jordin Sparks – S.O.S (Let the music play)
Train – HSS
Carrie Underwood – Cowboy Casanova
We Are The Fallen – Bury Me Alive

Category 2 – Album of the Year (Idols and Idol-related albums) – 793 entered:

Tried and True – Clay Aiken
Kris Allen – Kris Allen
Back to Me – Fantasia
Just Like You – Allison Iraheta
For Your Entertainment – Adam Lambert
Unbroken – Katharine McPhee
Play On – Carrie Underwood
Tear The World Down – We Are The Fallen (Carly Smithson)

Not from AI, but related:
I Dreamed a Dream – Susan Boyle
Glee: The Music, Volume 1 – Glee Cast

Category 3 – Song of the Year

This is a songwriters award. Only those in the credits are listed in the top part. 834 entered:
“Bury Me Alive” – Carly Smithson (We Are The Fallen)
“Enough” – Jessica Sierra (Jessica Sierra)
“If I Can’t Have You” – Kara DioGuardi (Meat Loaf and Kara DioGuardi)
“September” – Chris Daughtry (Daughtry)
“Something ‘Bout Love” – David Archuleta (David Archuleta)
“Temporary Home” – Carrie Underwood (Carrie Underwood)
“Terrified” – Kara DioGuardi (Katharine McPhee f/Zachary Levi)
“You Take Yourself With You” – Bo Bice (Bo Bice)

Related but not directly Idol, and Idol songs with contestants not listed (and not officially up for the award):
“Don’t Waste The Pretty” (Allison Iraheta)
“Bittersweet” (Fantasia)
“For Your Entertainment” (Adam Lambert)
“Happy” – Leona Lewis (Leona Lewis)
“I See You” (Leona Lewis)
“Live Like We’re Dying” (Kris Allen)
“Time For Miracles” (Adam Lambert)

Category 4 – Best New Artist (Idols and Idol-related acts) – 444 entered:
Kris Allen
Jason Castro
Danny Gokey
Allison Iraheta
Adam Lambert

Not from AI, but related:
Susan Boyle

Category 5 – Best Female Pop Vocal Performance – 187 entered:
“Don’t Waste The Pretty” – Allison Iraheta
“Say Goodbye” – Katharine McPhee
“Enough” – Jessica Sierra
“S.O.S. (Let The Music Play)” – Jordin Sparks

Not Idol but related:
“Wild Horses” – Susan Boyle
“Happy” – Leona Lewis
“I See You” – Leona Lewis

Category 6 – Best Male Pop Vocal Performance – 188 entered:
“Unchained Melody” – Clay Aiken
“Heartless” – Kris Allen
“Live Like We’re Dying” – Kris Allen
“The Truth” – Kris Allen
“Somethin’ Bout Love” – David Archuleta
“That’s What I’m Here For” – Jason Castro
“Whataya Want From Me” – Adam Lambert

Category 7 – Best Pop Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocals – 131 entered:
“Tennessee Line” – Daughtry

Not Idol but related:
“Defying Gravity” – Glee cast
“Don’t Stop Believin’” – Glee cast

Category 8 – Best Pop Collaboration with Vocals – 128 entered:
“Terrified” – Katharine McPhee and Zachary Levi
“If I Can’t Have You” – Meat Loaf and Kara DioGuardi

Not Idol but related:
“Alone” – Glee cast and Kristin Chenoweth
“Lost Then Found” – Leona Lewis and OneRepublic

Category 11 – Best Pop Vocal Album – 358 entered:
Kris Allen – Kris Allen
Jason Castro – Jason Castro
Just Like You – Allison Iraheta
For Your Entertainment – Adam Lambert
Unbroken – Katharine McPhee

Not Idol but related:
I Dreamed a Dream – Susan Boyle

Category 36: Best Female Country Vocal Performance

Kellie Pickler – Didn’t You Know How Much I Loved You
Carrie Underwood – Temporary Home

Category 37: Best Male Country Vocal Performance

Bucky Covington – A Father’s Love
Danny Gokey – I Will Not Say Goodbye
Danny Gokey – My Best Days Are Ahead of Me

Category 39: Best Country Collaboration With Vocals

Carrie Underwood & Sons of Sylvia – What Can I Say

Category 42: Best Country Album

Danny Gokey – My Best Days
Carrie Underwood – Play On

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174 Comments

  1. Category 12 – Best Dance Recording – 167 entered:

    “Operator” – DJ Dan, Uberzone and Blake Lewis

    Category 13 – Best Electronica/Dance Album – 72 entered:

    Heartbreak on Vinyl – Blake Lewis

    I’ll be out for the afternoon, I will go back through them this evening and fill any gaps.

  2. Category 4 – Best New Artist (Idols and Idol-related acts) – 444 entered:
    Kris Allen
    Jason Castro
    Danny Gokey
    Allison Iraheta
    Adam Lambert

    Ok I know its only the first round but happy to see the top 4 of Idol season 8 on the list. Jason Castro kind of surprised me but only because he was from Season 7 but I figured out his first debut only happened during this Grammy voting period. Wonder why We Are the Fallen are not included in this Category. Though they all were from previous bands or solo acts this is the first time as the band We Are The Fallen that they released music. I thought that since its a whole new band and incarnation of a new group that they would be eligible for BNA! or is an artist not eligible if they were ever able to be nominated in any incarnation previously.

    Good for Blake Lewis being nominated. I really loved his song Heartbreak on Vinyl. He deserves to be nominated at least in this catagory.

    Thanks MJ for laying this out so nicely or to whoever did it. It makes it so much easier to know who is on what list for the first round. Let the games begin.

  3. Best Pop Vocal Album – 358 entered

    1 in 358 chance of winning….better than the lottery.

    Fingers crossed!

  4. anyone know when the first cutdown of these lists is? I can’t get excited about this preliminary list because hundreds of people get submitted in each category, so to me, anyway, it’s no big deal. Now if any of the Idols makes the 1st or 2nd cut, etc., then I’ll get excited.

    Just my opinion, of course.

  5. There’s really no reason to congratulate anyone. Labels just submit hundreds of names that appear on the ballot. The next cut will be more important as that’s the list that generates the nominees (I think).

    Repeating myself but I think only Carrie, Fantasia and possibly Adam have any chance of an actual nomination. LLWD has an outside chance of a nom as well.

  6. Category 6 – Best Male Pop Vocal Performance – 188 entered:
    “Unchained Melody” – Clay Aiken
    “Heartless” – Kris Allen
    “Live Like We’re Dying” – Kris Allen
    “The Truth” – Kris Allen
    “Somethin’ Bout Love” – David Archuleta
    “That’s What I’m Here For” – Jason Castro
    “Whataya Want From Me” – Adam Lambert

    Go Kris! he has 3 songs that could possibly get him nominated. I don’t know if this is good or not. Could get him spread out too thin. I think his best chance is LLWD. I hope this strategy doesn’t backfire.

    I don’t think this is a reflection of the others. Their labels may have only submitted 1 song that they felt the artist had the best chance in getting nominated. Anyway whatever Good for Kris

  7. Danny was in the best male country vocal performance for both his two singles.

  8. jpfan:
    10/16/2010 at 11:53 am

    There’s really no reason to congratulate anyone. Labels just submit hundreds of names that appear on the ballot. The next cut will be more important as that’s the list that generates the nominees (I think).

    Repeating myself but I think only Carrie, Fantasia and possibly Adam have any chance of an actual nomination. LLWD has an outside chance of a nom as well.

    This all maybe true but at the same time there are also Tons that don’t even get submitted so on some level congrats is warranted. It doesn’t hurt and I really don’t think it makes anyone appear BSC … Unless they are dusting off shelf space for their Favorite. Expecting the award to be placed in their home. Ha ha ha ha (and there are some :lol: )

  9. LLWD won a BMI songwriting award, so I think it could make it through at least the first couple of cuts in the songwriters’ category, although it would still be a longshot to make it to the final 5 (or so) nominees

    I expect Carrie and maybe Daughtry to end up on the final list of nominees. Every other Idol would be a longshot, although Fantasia has been nominated several times before, so wouldn’t surprise me if she gets one.

  10. anyone know when the first cutdown of these lists is? I can’t get excited about this preliminary list because hundreds of people get submitted in each category, so to me, anyway, it’s no big deal. Now if any of the Idols makes the 1st or 2nd cut, etc., then I’ll get excited.

    Just my opinion, of course.

    They have to be submitted before they can make the first round of voting, so from that standpoint I think it is a big deal.

  11. Carrie is pretty much a lock, to me. I think Fantasia has a pretty good shot as well. Daughtry? eh. Adam? even less of a chance than Daughtry to me, but we’ll see.

  12. I don’t think this is a reflection of the others. Their labels may have only submitted 1 song that they felt the artist had the best chance in getting nominated.

    Exactly. It avoids splitting votes. Lots of people might like artist A, but half prefer Song 1 to Song 2. If only Song 1 is available, they’ll vote for that one.

    Actually, to have only one song submitted is probably an indication that the label thinks they have a chance. Multiple submissions (for people who aren’t Lady Gaga and such) are usually an indication of the label saying, “Yah, not going to be nominated, but we are showing our love. Love you Dude! Next time is your time”. No submissions means that you should probably start shopping for a new label.

  13. The lists for gospel, alternative and Latin were leaked as well. Other boards have the links. I’ll get to them when I get home.

  14. They have to be submitted before they can make the first round of voting, so from that standpoint I think it is a big deal.

    I agree……I am not necessarily throwing a party about it but its not nothing either IMHO. :-)

  15. Tripp

    Jordin was submitted for at least 1 category. She’s on the list for Best Female Pop Vocal (for S.O.S.). I didn’t look to see if she is on any of the other lists

  16. Category 3 – Song of the Year

    “Down” is also nominated and Jarred Cotter (S6) was a co-writer.

  17. Next time is your time”. No submissions means that you should probably start shopping for a new label.

    LMAO-I love your sense of humor. You always make me smile with you clever one liners and/or Anecdotes and never in a mean spirited way. That’s a talent.

  18. Congrats to the Idols who’s name was submitted for consideration.

    Good luck to all of them!

  19. They have to be submitted before they can make the first round of voting, so from that standpoint I think it is a big deal.

    I agree……I am not necessarily throwing a party about it but its not nothing either IMHO.

    lol…every major label submits virtually all of its eligible artists. The interesting thing, to me, about the submission lists is to see which labels are being strategic, which labels are throwing everything in but the kitchen sink, which categories certain artists are being submitted to etc. To me, at least, when a label can submit one of its major artists for multiple songs, but focusses on one, that tends to mean that they think that song has the best chance of a nomination and they intend to push it and do not want vote splitting between various songs. YMMV of course.

  20. Actually, to have only one song submitted is probably an indication that the label thinks they have a chance.

    I was surprised to see Jason Derulo, John Mayer, etc. only listed for one song then I read your comment. Makes more sense to me now.

  21. WTH where is Cookie ? What is wrong with RCA ? With all the achievements what is it ?

  22. WTH where is Cookie ? What is wrong with RCA ? With all the achievements what is it ?

    i don’t think cook has anything eligible…all of his releases were in the last grammy cycle ( i think, right? come back to me was out in the summer of 2009)

  23. Is Cook even eligible this year?

    ETA – Thanks MMB, that’s what I thought but I’m sure he was submitted last year, correct?

  24. Why I don’t think Kris won’t make the cut.Am happy they at least put his name in for consideration.I think if anyone he had a chance for it would be LLWD.I hope at least Kris or Adam well get on the final list.I love them both alot so i’d be happy if one of them make it.I think like everyone else Carrie and Daughtry have the best shot.

  25. I can’t get excited about this preliminary list

    hehe looks like they just threw everything at a wall

  26. I know these are just submissions for consideration and not nominations, but grats anyway. It shows their labels are behind them and to me that’s a good thing. I have no expectations of any of them winning or even making the final cut. Great if they do.

  27. The Grammys is a much more difficult award to be nominated for than the American Music Awards. And in light of the fact that the only Idol that got nominated for the AMAs, was Carrie Underwood, I think everyone else is pretty much a long shot. However, I can see Daughtry and Fantasia being possibilities, since they have been nominated before.

  28. Anyone has more info about the selection process? For example, what is the next step, will they narrow the list down to 20 or 10 and then select the final 5 nominees? I think Grammys are not based on just sales & airplay right?

  29. ilovekrisallen39:
    10/16/2010 at 12:51 pm Am happy they at least put his name in for consideration.I think if anyone he had a chance for it would be LLWD.I hope at least Kris or Adam well get on the final list.I love them both a lot so I’d be happy if one of them make it. I think like everyone else Carrie and Daughtry have the best shot.

    You are reading my mind. I agree with all you say here!

  30. Category 36: Best Female Country Vocal Performance

    Kellie Pickler – Didn’t You Know How Much I Loved You
    Carrie Underwood – Temporary Home

    Category 37: Best Male Country Vocal Performance

    Bucky Covington – A Father’s Love
    Danny Gokey – I Will Not Say Goodbye
    Danny Gokey – My Best Days Are Ahead of Me

    Category 39: Best Country Collaboration With Vocals

    Carrie Underwood & Sons of Sylvia – What Can I Say

    Category 42: Best Country Album

    Danny Gokey – My Best Days
    Carrie Underwood – Play On

    I’m too lazy to go through ALL the Best Country Song nods. LOL!!

  31. Next step is that academy members vote on these to narrow them to the 5 nominations in each category. Nominees are out December 1.

  32. kokko:
    10/16/2010 at 1:14 pm

    Anyone has more info about the selection process? For example, what is the next step, will they narrow the list down to 20 or 10 and then select the final 5 nominees? I think Grammys are not based on just sales & airplay right?

    Well at one time I believe the Grammy’s slanted towards artist who could actually sing but it seems they are being more and more like the American Music Awards and popularity seems to be more of a driving force. IMHO

  33. dhunken,thanks for agreeing with me.I just love those two guys so much and I want the best for both of them.They deserve the best there such great guys,and they both give back to us fans and charities,that they believe in.

  34. I think that Carrie and Fantasia will probably be nominated. I think maybe Daughtry will. The rest haven’t done enough critically or commercially to be nominated.

  35. Kris:
    10/16/2010 at 1:38 pm

    I think that Carrie and Fantasia will probably be nominated. I think maybe Daughtry will. The rest haven’t done enough critically or commercially to be nominated.

    I think Carrie is certain to be nominated.
    Fantasia and Daughtry may be nominated.
    All else are longshots.

    I think Adam has a slim chance of getting nominated for BMPV Performance.

    The Grammy nominations in most categories have little to do with commercial success. Here are last year’s BMPV Performance nominees — not one of these songs charted on the US main chart.

    Best Male Pop Vocal Performance
    Winner “Make It Mine” – Jason Mraz Did not chart in US, no certifications
    “This Time” – John Legend Did not chart in US, no certifications
    “Love You” – Maxwell Not released as a single
    “If You Don’t Know Me by Now” – Seal #8 US AC chart
    “All About The Love Again” – Stevie Wonder Non-Album single, did not chart

    Also, many critically acclaimed recordings do not get Grammy nominations and vice versa. But FYE got mostly good to excellent reviews. For example, here are the Metacritic scores for FYE vs a few likely nominees:

    FYE (album) 71
    Daughtry “Leave This Town” 59
    Bieber “My World” 65
    Bieber “My world 2.0) 68
    Taio Cruz “Rokstarr” 61
    Lady Gaga “The Fame Monster” 77
    Ke$ha “Animal” 54

  36. No male pop vocal submission from RCA for Posner. Now that makes me happy!

  37. I thought Jordin’s S.O.S. was at least two years old? It must have just made the cut off?

    Also I’m thrilled that Jive submitted Allison for these awards but isn’t it just a little hypocritical to do so after dropping her?

  38. Margie:
    10/16/2010 at 2:27 pm

    I thought Jordin’s S.O.S. was at least two years old? It must have just made the cut off?

    Also I’m thrilled that Jive submitted Allison for these awards but isn’t it just a little hypocritical to do so after dropping her?

    The Allison submission could have been made by 19 and not Jive or even made by Allison.

    Submission
    Recording Academy members and record companies enter recordings and music videos released during the eligibility year which they consider worthy of recognition in the GRAMMY Awards process.

    And no harm in submitting — in the unlikely event that she got nominated or won, it might sell some product. Sony owns the master recording and the most certainly are in the red on Allison’s album.

    What I think is really ironic is that they submitted TT for Best Male Pop Vocal and they did that vocal mix. Can’t figure out why they didn’t just submit one Kris song in this category — Heartless would have been my pick because I think it is the best vocal of the three they nominated but why TT?

  39. Look at all the people that were nominated though. You got John Legend who the Grammys love and is a multiple grammy award winner. You got Maxwell who came back after 8 or 9 nine years and had fantastic sales and won his first ever grammys that year. You got Seal who has multiple grammy awards. You got Stevie Wonder who is a legend. And Jason Mraz who won two Grammys that year. Even though he hadn’t won before, he had been nominated. They weren’t new artists who didn’t do that well commercially or critically. I think Adam doesn’t even have a slim chance. His album nor any of his songs did not do that well critically or commercially. He is a new artist that did not set the music world on fire with this album.

  40. Also, many critically acclaimed recordings do not get Grammy nominations and vice versa. But FYE got mostly good to excellent reviews. For example, here are the Metacritic scores for FYE vs a few likely nominees:

    I don’t agree with this. While the Grammy people aren’t taking into account what the guy at the Orlando paper who covers AI thinks about FYE, they are influenced by what more respected critics and so called tastemakers think. People like John Legend receive a lot of critical acclaim from those with close ties to the industry, which is one of the reasons why he keeps getting nominated. People like Legend might not have the massive commercial success that Lady Gaga has, but they do have the backing of the right critics and industry insiders.

  41. Go Kris! he has 3 songs that could possibly get him nominated. I don’t know if this is good or not. Could get him spread out too thin. I think his best chance is LLWD. I hope this strategy doesn’t backfire.

    I don’t think this is a reflection of the others. Their labels may have only submitted 1 song that they felt the artist had the best chance in getting nominated. Anyway whatever Good for Kris.

    Every valid submission makes it on the first ballot. So this just means that 19/Jive decided to submit 3 songs for Kris. I can’t see any advantage to doing this because it will split the Kris vote.

    I don’t agree with this. While the Grammy people aren’t taking into account what the guy at the Orlando paper who covers AI thinks about FYE, they are influenced by what more respected critics and so called tastemakers think. People like John Legend receive a lot of critical acclaim from those with close ties to the industry, which is one of the reasons why he keeps getting nominated. People like Legend might not have the massive commercial success that Lady Gaga has, but they do have the backing of the right critics and industry insiders.

    The nominees in the big categories tend to be successful artists who have done good to great work. But there are exceptions. Silversun Pickups, a 2010 BNA nominee, were not widely popular, had only moderate sales and got mixed reviews.

    And looking over the past 10 years of Grammy awards, it is a mixed lot.

    My point was solely that neither critical acclaim or commercial success is not required to get a Grammy nomination or even win. It is up to the academy voters.

  42. The Grammy voters have gotten a lot of criticism for being too conservative and for picking he “safe” choice in whatever category (especially in the biggest categories like album of year, record of year, and best new artist) instead of the more interesting and/or critically acclaimed one. They have tried to address this criticism and have gotten a little better at having some little-known and/or edgy, unique, and/or outside the box type artists on the final ballots. But they still tend to skew in favor of the safer choices

  43. Who exactly are the Grammy voters?

    For example I know someone who gets to vote for the Oscars but she is a little-known Canadian actress. I also know an American in Public Relations who gets to vote on some, but not all, Emmy categories each year.

    How does someone get to be a Grammy voter? Just wondering.

  44. haha I keep reading all this and the only thing going thru my head is…yeah yeah I know Adam doesn’t stand a chance I got it

    hahaha

  45. The Grammy voters have gotten a lot of criticism for being too conservative and for picking he “safe” choice in whatever category (especially in the biggest categories like album of year, record of year, and best new artist) instead of the more interesting and/or critically acclaimed one.

    The Grammys can’t win. They nominated some less well known artists for BNA and got massive criticism for that.

    2010 BEST NEW ARTIST NOMINEES
    Keri Hilson
    MGMT
    Silversun Pickups
    The Ting Tings
    Zac Brown Band (winner)

  46. I’m a little confused. This massive list is the first ballot, but is there only one other ballot of 5 nominees in December? So two ballots? Or is there a third ballot between the two lists?

  47. hoosiermama:
    10/16/2010 at 3:26 pm

    I’m a little confused. This massive list is the first ballot, but is there only one other ballot of 5 nominees in December? So two ballots? Or is there a third ballot between the two lists?

    There are just two ballots:

    Oct. 13 AWARDS: First voting ballot mailed
    Nov. 3 AWARDS: First voting ballot DUE

    (Dec. 1 Nominations announced)

    Dec. 2 AWARDS: Final voting ballot mailed; to be returned December 23
    Dec. 23 AWARDS: Final voting ballot DUE

    Feb. 13, 2011 53rd Annual GRAMMY Awards at Staples Center

  48. I think Adam doesn’t even have a slim chance. His album nor any of his songs did not do that well critically or commercially. He is a new artist that did not set the music world on fire with this album.

    This is your viewpoint and I respect it but I don’t agree with you. Adam did do well critically and commercially. He had a BB100 top 10 hit with WWFM. He had a top 16 CHR followup with IIHY. First one Platinum and the second gold. He has a gold Album (USA) which is now approaching 750K. In today’s climate that is part of the upper tier of sales. he is always talked about with the big guns. (Gaga, Bieber, Rhianna, Kesha,) I don’t think he would be brought up if he wasn’t considered part of the “in” group. Is he the most successful Not at all. But he is a part of the small few that is doing well globally. Very well. Grammy always likes real talent and vocally whether he is your cup a tea or not the industry respects his talent. You may not think he setting the world on Fire and you maybe correct but I think he definitely created a lot of sparks. :lol: He is political whether he wants to be or not and that maybe his in. The thing that could either push him in for a nomination or the thing that could stop him from getting one. Either way he deserves a Nomination just as well as any of the Big guns. He is a better vocalist then most of them. (You may not agree but people who are in the know do think this about him) (Industry Insiders) Though I don’t think he is a shoe in I think his chances are better then slim or no chance. We will see. Either way I will still think he is an incredible vocalist and performer and not being nominated or being nominated won’t change my opinion. :-)

    One small add I never got the impression that the Grammy’s picked artist who set the world on fire. Many winners and nominees have not been the most successful or the most loved. In some cases that is true but not in all. Grammy for the most part does pick substance. Now sometime that happens to be the artist that is the most popular or best seller but not all the time.

    Adele and Amy Whinhouse both won Best new Artist and I don’t think either of them set the world on fire but they were moderately successful. In fact they are, as far as I can tell, about the same success that Adam has right now and their peaks were during a much better sales climate. IMHO. And when you see who they were up against. Lady Antebellum and Taylor Swift I would say those two are huge in comparison. So I don’t think any of the nomination and who eventually wins can be described and figured out so easily and again makes me think Adam does have a chance even though in may be a small one. IMHO

  49. For the person who asked about this: You have to be a member of the Recording Academy to be eligible to vote for the Grammys

    the Grammys are presented by the Recording Academy. Only Academy voters can vote for the awards.

    According to grammy.com, voting members of the Academy are “professionals with creative or technical credits on six commercially released tracks (or their equivalent).”

    This pretty much means that anyone who’s ever released a record can vote for the Grammy Awards. Producers, mixers, arrangers, and other professionals are eligible as well.

    The Academy offers two non-voting membership options. Associate memberships are offered to writers, record label executives, managers, merchants, and other individuals involved in the music industry. Student memberships are offered to college students seeking a career in the music industry.

    However, those with associate and student memberships in the Recording Academy cannot vote for the Grammy Awards. (The minimum yearly fee for joining the Recording academy is $100).

  50. On Grammy voter eligibility, there is a new set of digital requirements that are even less restrictive than the general requirements. Many, many people are eligible to vote in the Grammys. And they then to be older and more conservative than music buyers. The list is private, and no demos are released, but like all of the awards academies, once you are in, all you need to do is pay your membership dues.

    Here are the digital requirements:

    Option 1: Digital Distribution

    1. Applicant must be credited on a minimum of 12 tracks, consisting of one release or multiple releases or two full length releases.
    2. Applicant must have a Web site promoting him/herself as an artist. Promotion could include upcoming releases, tour schedule and other non-defined criteria establishing the fact the artist is supporting his/her craft through promotion. (This does not apply to non-performance categories such as engineer, producer, songwriter, art direction, notes writer, etc.).
    3. Album must be available for sale to the general public in an established online retail setting. Examples: Amazon.com, CD Baby, iTunes, Rhapsody, Yahoo, Emusic, Musicmatch, CD Universe, etc.
    4. Any other pertinent information that may establish the applicant as pursuing a career in the business of recorded sound.

    Option 2: Member Endorsement
    Applicant may be endorsed by two current Voting members of The Academy. Specific forms and criteria for this avenue of membership will be available on GRAMMY.com by clicking “The Recording Academy” button and then clicking the “Join Us” button.

  51. smeggingnuts:
    10/16/2010 at 3:15 pm

    haha I keep reading all this and the only thing going thru my head is…yeah yeah I know Adam doesn’t stand a chance I got it

    hahaha

    Hey Smeggingnuts are you not reading my post….because I swear I am saying the opposite. :mrgreen:

  52. As long as these entries are voted for by members of the Recording Industry and not some rabid online fanbase that will skew the results then good luck to all the Idols!!!

    And I’m happy to see Jason Castro thrown in there with my Season 8 favorites. :)

  53. What does “444 entered” and all those other numbers mean?

    That would be awesome if Allison won her Best Pop Female category! HAHA! Take that, Jive!

  54. Congrats to the Idols who got submissions! Although, aside from Underwood and Boyle, I can’t imagine an Idol winning an award this year.

    I’m not even sure Daughtry can pull through with an award and I really enjoyed their last album. I’d like to see the song Tennessee Line make the final cut… great song!

    I don’t know why, but I think Gokey is a good looong shot. Maybe not a grammy.. but I wouldn’t be surprised if he got some kind of recognition in later years. I can see Fantasia making a final cut. Don’t really care for her, but oh well.

    Overall, the Idols are doing well.

  55. I’m gonna play a game with myself and make predictions JUST BASED ON THE NOMINEES ON THIS LIST:

    #1. Record of the Year — Hey Soul Sister (Train)
    #2. Album of the Year – Play On, I Dreamed A Dream or Glee Cast Vol 1
    #3. Song of the Year – Live Like We’re Dying
    #4. Best New Artist – Susan Boyle or Adam Lambert
    #5. Best Female Pop Vocal – Happy (Leona Lewis)
    #6. Best Male Pop Vocal — Any one of the three Kris songs or WWFM
    #7. Best Pop Duo – Don’t Stop Believin’ (Glee)
    #8. Best Pop Collaboration – Terrified (McPhee and Levi)
    #11. Best Pop Vocal Album – Kris Allen or For Your Entertainment(Yes, I’m biased)
    #36. Best Female Country – Didn’t Know How Much I Loved You (Pickler)
    #37. Best Male Country – A Father’s Love (Covington)
    #39. Best Country Collaboration – Sons of Sylvia & Carrie Underwood
    #42. Best Country Album – Play On

  56. Actually — now that we have the submission list, I think that Adam has a better shot than I expected to get a nomination for Best Male Pop Vocal Performance.

    Give nominations to John Meyer, Bruno Mars, Jason Derulo, one classic artist and #5????

    #5 seems wide open.

    Tao Cruz — Dynamite is not the kind of vocal that usually get a pop vocal nomination — modified to oblivion.

    Mraz won last year and “A Beautiful Mess” was a minor hit. Meyer should take the Mraz voters this year.

    Robbie Williams would be a good choice but he have only been nominated for a video in 2003. Doubt he would get a nominated this year.

    MJ for This Is It – I hope not because that would not be about the music.

    A second classic artist, usual suspect????

    So, even though Adam’s still a long shot, I am moving my guess from 0.001% to a 1% chance!

    On predictions — It’s Eminem’s year. SuBo will not get a Grammy nomination, and Carrie will win at least one Country Genre Grammy.

  57. Jasper.. stop cheating at your own game. You HAVE to pick a winner. lol ..so who’s your favorite favorite? Allen or Lambert?

  58. Jasper

    444 entered means that 444 artists or albums or songs or whatever have been submitted for consideration for that specific award. So, for instance, there are 187 different songs (but not necessarily 187 different artists) who are up for consideration for the pop female vocal category.

  59. I know Adam doesn’t stand a chance I got it

    Yes he does. He has a shot until he is neither on the nominations list nor the winner. Positive projection, smeggs!!!

    I’m kinda stoked. WWFM was a good worldwide hit so I’m staying positive. :-)

  60. I wonder how many of the Grammy voters will listen to all 840 albums submitted before voting? Do they listen to the entire album, or maybe just pick a couple of songs? That is a LOT of albums to have to listen to in a relatively short period of time

  61. Jasper:
    10/16/2010 at 4:19 pm

    I’m gonna play a game with myself and make predictions JUST BASED ON THE NOMINEES ON THIS LIST:

    #1. Record of the Year — Hey Soul Sister (Train)
    #2. Album of the Year – Play On, I Dreamed A Dream or Glee Cast Vol 1
    #3. Song of the Year – Live Like We’re Dying
    #4. Best New Artist – Susan Boyle or Adam Lambert
    #5. Best Female Pop Vocal – Happy (Leona Lewis)
    #6. Best Male Pop Vocal — Any one of the three Kris songs or WWFM
    #7. Best Pop Duo – Don’t Stop Believin’ (Glee)
    #8. Best Pop Collaboration – Terrified (McPhee and Levi)
    #11. Best Pop Vocal Album – Kris Allen or For Your Entertainment(Yes, I’m biased)
    #36. Best Female Country – Didn’t Know How Much I Loved You (Pickler)
    #37. Best Male Country – A Father’s Love (Covington)
    #39. Best Country Collaboration – Sons of Sylvia & Carrie Underwood
    #42. Best Country Album – Play On

    Great Game like your picks too :-)

  62. On predictions — It’s Eminem’s year. SuBo will not get a Grammy nomination, and Carrie will win at least one Country Genre Grammy.

    No I think this year is Miranda Lambert’s year. I think this is the first year since she was eligible that Carrie won’t walk away with a grammy.

  63. Album of the Year – Play On, I Dreamed A Dream or Glee Cast Vol 1

    I really think it’s disgusting that an album of covers can be considered with new material. Covers should have their own category.

  64. I wonder how many of the Grammy voters will listen to all 840 albums submitted before voting? Do they listen to the entire album, or maybe just pick a couple of songs? That is a LOT of albums to have to listen to in a relatively short period of time

    Do they get copies like Oscar voters get screeners? Not at this stage I mean, but later when the final nominations are in?

  65. I really think it’s disgusting that an album of covers can be considered with new material. Covers should have their own category.

    Why? I see no difference between singing an album of covers and singing an album of songs completely written by other people… Also, there have been some pretty cool cover albums over the years too like Strange Little Girls.

  66. Dhunken, we just have different opinions. Because those stats you listed to me aren’t doing that well critically and commercially compared to the competition. The competition whose singles have charted better and sold 3 and 4 million copies.

    I also don’t agree about Adele and Amy Winehouse. I don’t think that grammy voters look at Adam the way they look at Adele and Amy. And I remember Amy Winehouse as well as the song Rehab being very critically acclaimed. Popular artists even covered her song during their concerts. I also don’t think that WWFM has resonated with the public and industry people the way that Rehab did. And Adele made people really stand up and take a look at her after her SNL performances and sells rose for her album after that. I think that grammy voters really liked Adele’s and Amy’s voices and the style of music that they make.

  67. I also don’t agree about Adele and Amy Winehouse. I don’t think that grammy voters look at Adam the way they look at Adele and Amy. And I remember Amy Winehouse as well as the song Rehab being very critically acclaimed. Popular artists even covered her song during their concerts. I also don’t think that WWFM has resonated with the public and industry people the way that Rehab did. And Adele made people really stand up and take a look at her after her SNL performances and sells rose for her album after that. I think that grammy voters really liked Adele’s and Amy’s voices and the style of music that they make.

    You are right we don’t agree but I respect you and your opinion. I could argue that WWFM was actually better received and more popular then Rehab and I am sure many people like WWFM over Rehab just like there are many who like Rehab over WWFM. That is what I think we have here. Both of our opinions are valid. I think we both could find arguments that support our viewpoint. You seem very intelligent so I just think this is simply a matter of opinion and viewpoint. Of course I hope I am right :-) but don’t discount that what you say has some validity. It will all depend on how the Grammy voters view the situation. Smart ones will see it my way… :mrgreen: Just Kidding. Have a great night

  68. Even though he has done pretty well, I still think it’s a long shot that Adam will get a Grammy nomination this time out. Personally, I don’t think he’ll be nominated, but we’ll see. Among the Idols, my money’s on Carrie and Fantasia.

  69. I wonder how many of the Grammy voters will listen to all 840 albums submitted before voting? Do they listen to the entire album, or maybe just pick a couple of songs? That is a LOT of albums to have to listen to in a relatively short period of time

    They will ask their interns and PA’s for suggestions.

  70. While Adam is undoubtedly a longshot for a Grammy nod, the fact that he is regularly appearing in articles prognosticating potential nominees means that he will at least be on the short list of people considered and/ or is on the radar of Grammy voters as a potential nominee. While there certainly were a few outliers, the reviews for the fye cd were generally good to great ( and not just from idol bloggers but from mainstream sources like the associated press). His reviews were better than a lot of other artists who are considered shoe INS for nominations. So I don’t think we can say that Adams efforts have not crossed the necessary critical threshold for a Grammy nomination. As for sales he has done better than some others who will get serious consideration and has done worse than others. IMO he is a longshot but will definitely be in the conversation. And if RCA/19 give him a strong push, he might just get a nom

  71. I think Fantasia has a good shot of being nominated. She has been nominated before and this album has been reviewed well.

  72. Kris:
    10/16/2010 at 5:11 pm

    I think Fantasia has a good shot of being nominated. She has been nominated before and this album has been reviewed well.

    See this is where I feel a disconnect or confused :-( -Fantasia’s Album did get nice Reviews and her median score was a 70 (based on 7 reviews) where as Adam’s was 71(based on 10 reviews). Yet you feel Fantasia was reviewed well and Adam was not. I am confused. I think they both got great reviews and I think they both stand a good chance of getting nomination. But I tend to be an optimist, in fact I really wish all the idols that are eligible would get a nomination of some kind. I think they are all a very talented group. I do have my favorites but most of the idols are really good singers and really nice people :-)

  73. Why? I see no difference between singing an album of covers and singing an album of songs completely written by other people… Also, there have been some pretty cool cover albums over the years too like Strange Little Girls.

    I just think they should be in their own category, not that they shouldn’t have nominations. I agree there are good cover albums.

  74. Thanks Q3 for clarifying the voting process!

    Do we know if any of the Idols are members of the Recording Academy? If they are, can they vote for themselves? :-)

  75. Reviews do not have much to do with Grammy voting but looks to me like Fantasia and Adam got about the same level of reviews….here are some sample reviews:

    Fantasia “Back to Me” album reviews:
    Allmusic 3.5/5 stars
    Billboard (favorable)
    The Boston Globe (favorable)
    Entertainment Weekly (B)
    Los Angeles Times 3/4 stars
    Rolling Stone 3.5/5 stars
    Slant Magazine 1.5/5 stars
    The New York Daily News 4/5 stars

    Adam “For Your Entertainment” album reviews
    Allmusic 4/5 stars
    Boston Globe (mixed)
    Entertainment Weekly (B+)
    The Detroit News (favorable)
    Los Angeles Times 3/4 stars
    The New York Times (unfavorable)
    Rolling Stone 3/5 stars
    Slant 3.5/5 stars
    Spin 3.5/5 stars

    Where they have common reviews….

    Allmusic Adam
    The Boston Globe Fantasia
    Entertainment Weekly Adam
    Los Angeles Times Tie
    Rolling Stone Fantasia
    Slant Magazine Adam

    Adam may not get a nomination but it will not be because of poor critical reception or lack of commercial success. FYE got good reviews and has sold over 1 million units, generated 1 Platinum international hit, 1 Gold International hit, 1 #1 song in Japan, and 3 of the most watch videos of the Grammy year. Plus, Adam has gotten great reviews for a 70+ date US tour and his international tour just got a lot of favorable press right when the ballots were received. Finally, Adam’s recent decision to support NoH8 and It Gets Better, which were not related to the Grammys but to current events, have increased the support for him in the music industry.

    Adam is a longshot for a number of reason not the least of which is because he is in the most competitive genre (Pop) vs. the less competitive genres. Rock vocal category only has 86 submissions. Best Metal Performance 66. Best Country Female Vocal Performance 64.

    And the album categories are similar — Best Pop Vocal Album — 358 submissions vs. 83 Country albums, 272 Rock albums, 72 Dance albums, 63 R&B albums, 94 Rap albums submitted.

  76. I find it veeerrrryyyy interesting that RCA did not submit any pop male vocal except Adam. Posner is in collab with another song and in the dance category. I hope this means they are going to push him. And Xtina was only submitted in dance, not female vocal, because she might have a shot at a smaller category. With her epic flop, a Grammy in any category can only help her.

  77. hoosiermama:
    10/16/2010 at 5:52 pm

    Thanks Q3 for clarifying the voting process!

    Do we know if any of the Idols are members of the Recording Academy? If they are, can they vote for themselves? :-)

    All the Idols who have put out records that qualify, and every major label release in the US qualifies, can be voting members. And yes, you can vote for yourself.

    Also, many people who work for the labels and with the labels are voters and vote for that label’s artists. And there are a lot of discussion about who to vote for within certain entertainment communities — like the Nashville country community usually has favorites that most people vote for.

    There are voting blocks within the Grammys and limitations on how many categories you can vote in. Everyone can vote on the Big 4(Record of the Year, Album of the Year, Song of the Year, and Best New Artist) and in no more than 9 of 30 other fields on their ballots. On the final ballot voters can vote on the Big 4 and only 8 of the 30 other fields. Almost everyone votes in the Pop Categories because it crosses genres.

    Grammy voters are urged to vote based upon quality alone. They are not supposed to consider sales, chart performance, personal friendships, regional preferences or company loyalty. Gifts is prohibited. And voters do not receive copies or listening access to nominated works.

    ETA: Mike Posner is with J Records, not RCA Records — although part of the RCA/Jive Label Group. I would not read too much into him not being nominated in the Male Pop Vocal Category — he would have no shot there and has a shot in some other categories.

    Good point about Miranda Lambert beating Carrie. It certainly seems like Miranda’s year.

  78. If anybody has anything to add to this list? Go for it…

    A couple but only Idol-related

    Category2 Album of the Year
    Echo Leona Lewis

    Category11 Best Pop Vocal Album
    Echo Leona Lewis

  79. Adam may not get a nomination but it will not be because of poor critical reception or lack of commercial success. FYE got good reviews and has sold over 1 million units, generated 1 Platinum international hit, 1 Gold International hit, 1 #1 song in Japan, and 3 of the most watch videos of the Grammy year. Plus, Adam has gotten great reviews for a 70+ date US tour and his international tour just got a lot of favorable press right when the ballots were received.

    yeah i agree with this. while many within the “idol bubble” appear to completely disregard, indeed mock, Adam’s international results (charting in the top 10 in many countries, platinum and gold certifications in various countries, sold out international dates etc.) they certainly are not disregarded or mocked within the industry. He has done enough commercially and critically to get a nomination. Now, the noms may go to all previous nominees; or to only the hugest sellers of the year; or to others for any one of a number of reasons. There is a LOT of competition. But again, the fact that he is being mentioned in the mainstream press as a possible nominee (a longshot yes, but still being mentioned) by industry insiders demonstrates that while he very well may not get a nomination (and i would agree that he is a real real longshot), he will likely be on the short list of those considered for nominations. Doesn’t mean he will get one. But he will likely be in the conversation. I don’t think RCA’s submission was a pure “vanity” submission.

  80. Category 14 – Best Traditional Pop Album – 51 entered

    Tried and True – Clay Aiken

    (IIRC, this is the first time an Idol has ever submitted in that field)

  81. ETA: Mike Posner is with J Records, not RCA Records — although part of the RCA/Jive Label Group. I would not read too much into him not being nominated in the Male Pop Vocal Category — he would have no shot there and has a shot in some other categories.

    true but he is prominently shown on the RCA website, constantly tweeted about by RCA promo and RCA music twitter accounts etc., and is listed as an RCA artist on the RCA website So i don’t think there is too much delineation between j and rca…i would bet most of the outside world assumes he is with just plain old RCA

  82. Category 15 – Best Solo Rock Vocal Performance – 86 entered

    No Idols or Idol-related songs

    Category 16 – Best Rock Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocals – 210 entered

    “September” – Daughtry

    Category 17 – Best Hard Rock Performance – 84 entered

    “Bury Me Alive” – We Are The Fallen

    Category 18 – Best Metal Performance – 66 entered

    No Idols or Idol-related songs

    Category 19 – Best Rock Instrumental Performance – 69 entered

    No Idols or Idol-related songs

    Category 20 – Best Rock Song – 273 entered

    (This is a songwriter award)

    “Bury Me Alive” – Carly Smithson (We Are The Fallen)
    “September” – Chris Daughtry (Daughtry)

    Category 21 – Best Rock Album – 270 entered

    Tear The World Down – We Are The Fallen

  83. Category 18 – Best Metal Performance – 66 entered

    No Idols or Idol-related songs

    Crawl Thru Fire, Adam you know you wanna… hahahaha

  84. Category 22 – Best Alternative Music Album – 128 entered

    No Idols or Idol-related albums

  85. RnB by Duo or Group
    Love Is Your Color – Leona Lewis & Jennifer Hudson

    Music Video
    Leona Lewis Happy

    Best Song (songwriter award)
    Love Is Your Color (Leona Lewis and Jennifer Hudson performing)

  86. true but he is prominently shown on the RCA website, constantly tweeted about by RCA promo and RCA music twitter accounts etc., and is listed as an RCA artist on the RCA website So i don’t think there is too much delineation between j and rca…i would bet most of the outside world assumes he is with just plain old RCA

    But the artists, their management and label team decide what to submit. So the fact that Adam and Posner are both with RCA/Jive Label Group, but on different labels and with different management means that coordination of the submissions is very unlikely.

    Generally, it is considered best to only submit nominations that have credibility. If you submit multiple songs in a category or stretch the category that you submit in, you risk being disregarded across the board by many voters.

  87. dhunken:
    10/16/2010 at 5:34 pm
    Kris:
    10/16/2010 at 5:11 pm

    I think Fantasia has a good shot of being nominated. She has been nominated before and this album has been reviewed well.

    See this is where I feel a disconnect or confused -Fantasia’s Album did get nice Reviews and her median score was a 70 (based on 7 reviews) where as Adam’s was 71(based on 10 reviews). Yet you feel Fantasia was reviewed well and Adam was not. I am confused. I think they both got great reviews and I think they both stand a good chance of getting nomination. But I tend to be an optimist, if fact I really wish all the idols that are eligible would get a nomination of some kind. I think they are all a very talented group. I do have my favorites but most of the idols are really good singers and really nice people

    Good points, dhunken. I love logic!

  88. Category 23 – Best Female R&B Vocal Performance – 65 entered

    “Bittersweet” – Fantasia

    Category 24 – Best Male R&B Vocal Performance – 77 entered

    No Idols or Idol-related songs

    Category 25 – Best R&B Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocals – 61 entered

    “Love Is Your Color” – Jennifer Hudson and Leona Lewis

    Category 26 – Best Traditional R&B Vocal Performance – 70 entered

    “And I’m Telling You I’m Not Going” – Amber Riley (would she be considered Idol-related or actually Idol material?)

    Category 27 – Best Urban/Alternative Performance – 56 entered

    No Idols or Idol-related songs

    Category 28 – Best R&B Song – 137 entered

    (This is a songwriter award.)

    No Idols directly on credits. Not on the credits but songs from Idols nominated:

    “Bittersweet” (Fantasia)

    Category 29 – Best R&B Album – 63 entered

    Back To Me – Fantasia

    Category 30 – Best Contemporary R&B Album – 27 entered

    No Idols or Idol-related albums

  89. itsalleternal:
    10/16/2010 at 6:41 pm

    Category 22 – Best Alternative Music Album – 128 entered

    No Idols or Idol-related albums

    I want to offer my gratitude and thanks for posting all this information and breaking it down. It definitely looks like a lot of hard work. I just wanted you to know it is very much appreciated. You ROCK!!!

  90. Category 23 – Best Female R&B Vocal Performance – 65 entered

    “Bittersweet” – Fantasia

    This seems like Fantasia’s best shot. It is a beautiful and well-respected vocal.

  91. Not surprisingly, the rap field is a write-off for Idols. Last year JHud had an entry though.

    Category 31 – Best Rap Solo Performance – 66 entered

    No Idols or Idol-related songs

    Category 32 – Best Rap Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocals – 48 entered

    No Idols or Idol-related songs

    Category 33 – Best Rap/Sung Collaboration – 82 entered

    No Idols or Idol-related songs

    Category 34 – Best Rap Song – 113 entered

    (This is a songwriter award.)

    No Idols or Idol-related songs

    Category 35 – Best Rap Album – 94 entered

    No Idols or Idol-related albums

  92. I want to offer my gratitude and thanks for posting all this information and breaking it down. It definitely looks like a lot of hard work. I just wanted you to know it is very much appreciated. You ROCK!!!

    Thanks! This is one of my favorite times of the year on here. I love when we have surprises from lesser-known Idols as well.

    I wish we had Idols in other fields like Classical to make it even more well-balanced.

  93. I think that Fantasia has a good shot of being nominated because like I said she has been nominated before. This album is being seen as her best album yet so why wouldn’t she be nominated for this one. Grammy voters have liked her as well as her work before. Also, Fantasia is very well respected in the industry. She is also well respected by a lot of legendary artists. I think this will probably be the last I say on this because I don’t want to continue to go back and forth about why Adam should be nominated. We obviously don’t agree and aren’t going to change each other’s opinions.

  94. Skipping Country for the moment (since it was previously done), and since I do not have New Age yet, moving to Jazz. Not surprisingly, no Idols here.

    Category 44 – Best Contemporary Jazz Album – 82 entered

    No Idols or Idol-related albums

    Category 45 – Best Jazz Vocal Album – 113 entered

    No Idols or Idol-related albums

    Category 46 – Best Improvised Jazz Solo – 425 entered

    No Idols or Idol-related songs

    Category 47 – Best Jazz Instrumental Album, Individual or Group – 307 entered

    No Idols or Idol-related albums

    Category 48 – Best Large Jazz Ensemble Album – 55 entered

    No Idols or Idol-related albums

    Category 49 – Best Latin Jazz Album – 35 entered

    No Idols or Idol-related albums

  95. Pretty weak in Gospel as Mandisa and Phil Stacey didn’t release anything the last year.

    Category 50 – Best Gospel Performance – 179 entered

    “Only You Can Save” – Chris Sligh

    Category 51 – Best Gospel Song – 197 entered

    (This is a songwriter award.)

    No Idols or Idol-related songs

    Category 52 – Best Rock or Rap Gospel Album – 31 entered

    No Idols or Idol-related albums

    Category 53 – Best Pop/Contemporary Gospel Album – 85 entered

    The Anatomy of Broken – Chris Sligh

    Category 54 – Best Southern, Country or Bluegrass Gospel Album – 38 entered

    No Idols or Idol-related albums

    Category 55 – Best Traditional Gospel Album – 41 entered

    No Idols or Idol-related albums

    Category 56 – Best Contemporary R&B Gospel Album – 18 entered

    No Idols or Idol-related albums

  96. Kris:
    10/16/2010 at 7:09 pm

    I think that Fantasia has a good shot of being nominated because like I said she has been nominated before. This album is being seen as her best album yet so why wouldn’t she be nominated for this one. Grammy voters have liked her as well as her work before. Also, Fantasia is very well respected in the industry. She is also well respected by a lot of legendary artists. I think this will probably be the last I say on this because I don’t want to continue to go back and forth about why Adam should be nominated. We obviously don’t agree and aren’t going to change each other’s opinions.

    I agree that we don’t seem to agree on Adam but based on your reason why Fantasia might be nominated confused me as Adam meets the exact criteria. I am not trying to change your mind I am only trying to understand your logic which I can’t. I was merely trying to understand your view but I guess it only boils down to you don’t like Adam, Which is a perfectly acceptable reason. But your other arguments don’t hold water. You give them I am only responding to them. Again, Not trying to be anything except understand your logic. I don’t think I was rude or disrespectful. I guess I can’t and I will drop it at this point. I am not the only one who seems to not understand your reasoning either. But such is life. I thought we were having a healthy discussion I was was truly trying to understand you but I see that was a mistake. My apologies.

  97. Skipping over some fields for now due to the low likelihood of Idols being nominated, and I don’t have a lot of them.

    Category 81 – Best Compilation Soundtrack Album for Motion Picture, Television or Other Visual Media – 82 entered

    It is probable that Idols are included in some of the entries but I cannot name them off the top of my head.

    Not Idol but related:
    Glee: The Music, Volume 1 – Glee Cast

    Category 82 – Best Score Soundtrack Album for Motion Picture, Television or Other Visual Media – 114 entered

    (This is a composer award.)

    No Idols or Idol-related albums

    Category 83 – Best Song Written for Motion Picture, Television or Other Visual Media – 64 entered

    (This is a songwriter award.)

    No Idols on the credits. Not on the credits (and not officially to be nominated) but songs for Idols submitted:

    “Love Is Your Color” (Jennifer Hudson and Leona Lewis, from Sex and the City 2)

  98. Category 108 – Best Short Form Music Video – 537 entered

    “Live Like We’re Dying” – Kris Allen
    “September” – Daughtry
    “Bittersweet” – Fantasia
    “I Will Not Say Goodbye” – Danny Gokey
    “My Best Days are Ahead of Me” – Danny Gokey
    “Friday I’ll Be Over You” – Allison Iraheta
    “Whataya Want From Me” – Adam Lambert
    “Didn’t You Know How Much I Loved You” – Kellie Pickler
    “Temporary Home” – Carrie Underwood
    “Bury Me Alive” – We Are The Fallen

    Not Idol but related:
    “Happy” – Leona Lewis

    Category 109 – Best Long Form Music Video – 171 entered

    Tried & True Live! – Clay Aiken

    Not Idol but related:
    I Dreamed A Dream: The Susan Boyle Story – Susan Boyle

  99. Category 109 –Best Long Form Music Video –171 entered Tried & True Live! –Clay Aiken Not Idol but related: I Dreamed A Dream: The Susan Boyle Story –Susan Boyle

    Omg there was a video for IDAD????

  100. Back to country, here are add-ons to the list:

    Category 36 – Best Female Country Vocal Performance – 64 entered

    “United We Stand” – Melissa Lawson (made Hollywood S4, won Nashville Star)

    Category 37 – Best Male Country Vocal Performance – 93 entered

    All accounted for

    Category 38 – Best Country Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocals – 44 entered

    No Idols or Idol-related songs

    Category 39 – Best Country Collaboration with Vocals – 56 entered

    “Last Name” – Glee Cast and Kristin Chenoweth

    Category 40 – Best Country Instrumental Performance – 49 entered

    No Idols or Idol-related songs

    Category 41 – Best Country Song – 160 entered

    (This is a songwriter award.)

    “Temporary Home” – Carrie Underwood (Carrie Underwood)
    “United We Stand” – Melissa Lawson (Melissa Lawson)
    “You Take Yourself With You” – Bo Bice (Bo Bice)

    Not on the credits (and not officially to be nominated) but songs for Idols submitted:

    “Didn’t You Know How Much I Loved You” (Kellie Pickler)
    “A Father’s Love (The Only Way He Knew How)” (Bucky Covington)
    “My Best Days are Ahead of Me” (Danny Gokey)

    Category 42 – Best Country Album – 94 entered

    3 – Bo Bice

  101. Omg there was a video for IDAD????

    Long form video, like a DVD or something.

  102. allison in everythiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  103. Long form video, like a DVD or something

    Oh that makes more sense…………….omg they made a DVD????? Hehe

  104. I think Carrie and Fantasia will definitely get nominations, and I actually think Fantasia is more of a bet to win than Carrie. I think there is a distinct possibility that Adam will be nominated, at least once. Anything else for me as a fan will be gravy.

  105. My top 5 most likely to get nominated:

    Carrie Underwood (almost certain in at least 1 or 2 categories)
    Fantasia (good chance at a few)
    Adam Lambert (not certain but possible)
    Chris Sligh (the Gospel field is less demanding)
    Kris Allen (small chance)

  106. I agree with abbysee, which is fairly common (at least since S7 when we were mortal enemies in the David v. David showdown. lol Just a bit of perspective… :-))

  107. itsalleternal:
    10/16/2010 at 9:27 pm

    My top 5 most likely to get nominated:

    Carrie Underwood (almost certain in at least 1 or 2 categories)
    Fantasia (good chance at a few)
    Adam Lambert (not certain but possible)
    Chris Sligh (the Gospel field is less demanding)
    Kris Allen (small chance)

    I would add Blake Lewis as the dark horse who could surprise everyone in the Dance Category!

  108. As much as voters are required not to be bias and focus on the art and all its criteria, but the human side, the personal agenda and even the prejudices will rear its ugly head, statistically. Like the Oscars. From that realistic sphere, I think Adam has an extended long shot. Not just for the lack of texture on the songs entered, but for his “performance” at the AMA last year.

  109. Good find, Blake might be a dark horse candidate as well in Dance. Clay Aiken maybe in Traditional Pop as well?

    The less demanding fields are more advantageous to Idols as there are far fewer entered and they have more name recognition than most in that field. That explains why Mandisa is frequently nominated in Gospel, for instance.

    In one category (Best Regional/Mexican Album), there were fewer than 10 submissions so there will be no nominations and no Grammy awarded, but they were redistributed elsewhere, such as in World Music.

  110. itsalleternal:
    10/16/2010 at 9:52 pm

    Good find, Blake might be a dark horse candidate as well in Dance. Clay Aiken maybe in Traditional Pop as well?

    The less demanding fields are more advantageous to Idols as there are far fewer entered and they have more name recognition than most in that field. That explains why Mandisa is frequently nominated in Gospel, for instance.

    In one category (Best Regional/Mexican Album), there were fewer than 10 submissions so there will be no nominations and no Grammy awarded, but they were redistributed elsewhere, such as in World Music.

    Yes Clay too that is also a strong possibility in the category you mention.

    Great info here. Thanks I also like learning about these things. Very interesting fact about the Best Regional/Mexican Album. Surprising that only 10 submission but good that they got redistributed in World music categories. (Though I would guess this diminishes the chances of these artist to actually win in a much broader category)

  111. Category 83 – Best Song Written for Motion Picture, Television or Other Visual Media – 64 entered

    itsalleternal I got a question would Time for Miracles be nominated in this category or is it like the Academy Awards and the song has to be written Exclusively for the Movie or can it be that a song that was first heard in a movie could be nominated in this category. (I hope I am making Sense) The Song TFM that Adam sang for 2012 was first heard in the Movie 2012 but was written two years before but was never released or recorded until Adam and the movie. Hope I didn’t lose you and you understand my question :-)

  112. According to what I am reading, the rules state that if fewer than 10 entries are submitted into any category, there is no contest there and they are moved to the next most appropriate category. That usually only happens in the most obscure categories. (Typically, Record of the Year and Song of the Year get the most entries)

    If they are unable to fit anywhere else, they could move to Album or Song or Record of the Year, but they would not have a prayer at a nomination in any of those (since these virtually unknown acts will be fighting against the big names).

  113. itsalleternal I got a question would Time for Miracles be nominated in this category or is it like Academy Awards the song has to be written Exclusively for the Movie or can it be that a song that was first heard in a movie could be nominated in this category. (I hope I am making Sense) The Song TFM that Adam sang for 2012 was first heard in the Movie 2012 but was written two years before but as never released or recorded until Adam and the movie. Hope I didn’t lose you and you understand my question

    To be eligible for those, it has to be written specifically for that movie. That is a songwriter award anyway.

    A song must contain melody and lyrics and must have been written specifically for and used in a current* motion picture, a television show or in other visual media, and commercially released on a recording for the first time during the eligibility year. (*Note: “Current” is defined as released not later than November 30 of the same calendar year as the September close of GRAMMY eligibility.) Songs containing prominent samples or interpolations are not eligible. Award to the songwriter(s).

    http://www2.grammy.com/PDFs/Recording_Academy/53CatDescGuide.pdf

  114. Thanks for the clarification…. :-( Sad…thought maybe there was possibly an obscure category that Adam would be nominated. Ho Hum… :lol:

  115. Thanks for the clarification…. Sad…thought maybe there was possibly an obscure category that Adam would be nominated. Ho Hum…

    RCA could have put him in Dance, which would be a lot easier than in Male Pop Vocal and Pop Album.

  116. Thanks to everyone for posting all the Grammy-nomination information. Never thought about any of this ’til I fell in love with my Idol :). Anyway, dhunken, I love all your arguments for our boy – I have my fingers crossed for a nomination for Adam, and I do think he has a chance. But I also have a feeling that 2011 is going to be an even better year here in the States for Adam, so the ride certainly isn’t over!

  117. I agree with abbysee, which is fairly common (at least since S7 when we were mortal enemies in the David v. David showdown. lol Just a bit of perspective…

    LOL! Perspective indeed!

  118. I have my fingers crossed for a nomination for Adam, and I do think he has a chance. But I also have a feeling that 2011 is going to be an even better year here in the States for Adam, so the ride certainly isn’t over!

    I Agree with you 100%…..I believe 2011 is going to be a better year for Adam too. I’m going to predict right now that Album #2 for Adam will be better then the first one and Adam will be better defined as an artist and he will be a greater presence in the music world. If I am wrong (which I don’t think I am) well, I’ll admit it, move on, and wait for Album #3 :mrgreen: ….. Simple

  119. itsalleternal: Thanks for link!

    itsalleternal:
    10/16/2010 at 10:17 pm

    RCA could have put him in Dance, which would be a lot easier than in Male Pop Vocal and Pop Album.

    Looks to me like the nominated Adam is strategic categories to try and get him a nomination that matters. (And he doesn’t have a really great dance track on FYE.) But if voters had a dance vote option for Adam, they might put in in that minor category.

    I have been thru a few of the submission lists and think that the Adam submissions make sense and best bests (both very slim) are…

    WWFM — Best Male Pop Vocal Performance — 188 submissions but many nominee have close to 0 chance.
    FYE — Best Pop Vocal Album — 358 submissions — almost no chance.

    The BNA category is hugely competitive….assuming there is no country nominee (because there really is not new country act that is a breakout act) here are my picks:

    1 Justin Bieber Very Probable
    2 Drake Probable
    3 Janelle Monae Best reviewed album by any submitted artist, will be shameful if passed over.
    4 Ke$ha Likely, Grammy voters like women and Four Top 10 singles and a Platinum album and #1 song of the year. It isn’t art but it is the recording INDUSTRY!
    5 Florence & The Machine Likely Mumford & Sons Alternate
    Wild Card: Kid Cudi Possible, EW best hip-hop album on 2009, Metacritic 71

    Tiao Cruz Slim odds, album debut in US disappointing and this music is not about artistic statements — it is commercial effort

    Jason Derulo Slim odds, album sales in US disappointing and this music is not about artistic statements — it is commercial effort

    La Roux Very slim, US sales weak but critics and industy folks like them, but Florence & The Machine has the UK/EU and “cool” votes.

    Adam Lambert Slim but good reviews and one of the biggest selling albums of BNA submissions, 2 hits, successful tour — too bad he was on Idol!

    The Script See comment for La Roux. Plus, only one US hit in 2 years of hard work by Sony.

    Vampire Weekend They are on some pick lists but would have to know of F&TM. Buzz for F&TM is building. Too bad for VW. How about a Brit award?

    Susan Boyle No
    Jay Sean No, US sales <200K
    Owl City No look like a 1 hit wonder and Grammy voters have typically avoided them.
    Mike Posner No, most voters don't want to think about CTM any more!

    Other possibles that I think will be passed over.
    B.O.B
    Neon Trees
    Luke Bryan ETA: on LA Times prediction list but not submitted.
    Melanie Fiona
    V.V. Brown
    Chris Young ETA: on LA Times prediction list but not submitted.

    ETA: Correct based on Windmills comment.

    This one will be very interesting to watch.

  120. I Agree with you 100%…..I believe 2011 is going to be a better year for Adam too. I’m going to predict right now that Album #2 for Adam will be better then the first one and Adam will be better defined as an artist and he will be a greater presence in the music world. If I am wrong (which a don’t think I am) well I’ll admit it, move on and wait for Album #3 :mrgreen: ….. Simple

    dhunken, I think you are right. Even his preliminary discussion about the album shows a new level of artistic maturity.

    But I still think that FYE was a fine debut album and that WWFM deserves to be nominated for BMPVP.

  121. I personally doubt Justin Bieber will do very well. These are the most respected people in the business voting, and I don’t see much ratings benefit to have someone there that most of his fans will be in bed long before the Grammys end at 11:30 pm in most time zones. They have a tendency to go for the most talented and most accomplished artistically.

    My predictions for Best New Artist:

    Sons of Sylvia, Drake, Ke$ha, Susan Boyle and Janelle Monae. (I would replace Drake or Ke$ha with Gina Zavalis personally, she is a best-kept secret IMO)

  122. But I still think that FYE was a fine debut album and that WWFM deserves to be nominated for BMPVP.

    Oh don’t get me wrong I think FYE deserves recognition too as I believe it is one of the best Pop Albums of 2009 especially one of the best release by a male artist….Vocally few match him and none surpass him. IMHO….I just think in 2011 more people will be agreeing with us. :mrgreen:

    As you can see by my feelings that few match and none surpass him he should be nominated in the BMPVP (honestly I think he should win)

  123. gangreen29: No I think this year is Miranda Lambert’s year. I think this is the first year since she was eligible that Carrie won’t walk away with a grammy.

    IA with this. I was semi surprised Arista Nash only submitted Cowboy Casanova for Record Of The Year and submitted Temporary Home in all the country categories. I understand why they did it though. I think Carrie/TH will get nominated in Best Country Female Vocal. Best Country Song is a longshot and unlikely to happen, amazing if it did. 2 of those spots are guaranteed to Lady A+Chris Tompkins/Need You Now and the writers of The House That Built Me (which Miranda sings). They could go the CMA route and also nominate White Liar which would give Miranda a nomination in that category. Zac Brown Band submitted As She’s Walking Away which I think will get in for Best Country Song too. That’d be 4 out of 5 already.

    You never know what’s going to happen in the Collaboration category. Best Country Album is also a longshot IMO. 4 of those spots are on lock: Lady A, Miranda, Dierks, and Jamey Johnson. The 5th spot’s up in the air. It might be something from out of left field.

  124. I’d be really surprised if Kesha doesn’t win BNA.

    I really don’t see the industry voting for a tween star like Bieber.

  125. if adam had chance and win im be in the glitter moon.adam ruiend his chance ,thats my opinion ,i know all of you gone a kick my butt thats fine.adam consider a surprise factor ,thats why people said he gone a fire music industry with his album,i think its true though he could sell 5million like daughtry which end up 6th place.hes album cover,album name and single was the same,not good and hes subtitle wasent good either except for fever,sfw,sw,mp,andiihy.hes clyg name i search endup chris brown have the same name ,aftermath then emenim used for his single.

  126. Sadly my money is on Kesha as well for BNA and not sure what next year holds for Adam. Statistically 2nd albums do a lot worse and he is only takeing 4-5 months for this one…gah I want to go back to when all I did was go oh look new album cool…

  127. Adam Lambert Slim but good reviews and one of the biggest selling albums of BNA submissions, 2 hits, successful tour — too bad he was on Idol!

    But without Idol he wouldn’t have that tour or album.

    Since Carrie was nominated and won best new artist I think saying he is from idol will keep him from the nomination is a weak excuse.

  128. hes amas was disaster to many not for me but as people saw him professional, thats why its cost him alot hes cancellation and abc and grammys maybe he dont get nominies.

    but hes get alot prize for other country which is awsome,hes get some from us as well:young hollywood award,from canada hes wwfm mv and platinium,and other country gold.and other prize i dont remember.

  129. Q3 great analysis of the BNA category. I have to say your assessment of the possible nominees is excellent.

  130. smeggingnuts:
    10/17/2010 at 12:11 am

    Sadly my money is on Kesha as well for BNA and not sure what next year holds for Adam. Statistically 2nd albums do a lot worse and he is only takeing 4-5 months for this one…gah I want to go back to when all I did was go oh look new album cool…

    Well I have learned that Adam is anything but Typical. I think he will break that 2nd Album curse and he will have his own path when it comes to a second album. :-)

  131. adam have huge potential because hes very talented and disorve to get nominated because few have awsome,unique vocals like adam and siobhan.i hope he learn hes lesson this time and do something cool and unique.

    now all you can kick my butt,if you dont like my opinion.

  132. I thought FYE was an awesome album. I’m curious to see what the second one will be like.

  133. Since Carrie was nominated and won best new artist I think saying he is from idol will keep him from the nomination is a weak excuse.

    I agree with your statement. I don’t really think this is a viable excuse anymore. (personally I think it was used because someone’s favorite never got nominated) I always said that Carrie and Adam are my absolute top favorites (then following closely behind them, David A, Cook, Kris Allen, Carly, Daughtry, Kelly, Josh Gracin, Danny, Allison, Jennifer Hudson, and Kimberley Locke) There is a reason for it they are unique beyond just being amazing singers and great performers. There is something “star” Quality or the “it” factor about the both of them. They both get a lot of mag covers and generate Buzz in a frenzy the others don’t IMHO. Anyway what I am saying is There is a reason Carrie was nominated for BNA when no other Idols was & I think Adam has that same vibe/possibility that no other contestant has had beside Carrie. IMHO. Again IMHO Not a fact folks. :-) Humble opinion only. Friendly and humble opinion. :mrgreen:

  134. Anyway what I am saying is There is a reason Carrie was nominated for BNA when no other Idols was I think Adam has that same vibe/possibility that no other contestant has had. IMHO. Again IMHO Not a fact folks.

    I agree with you. I also agree with your post about the political slant, and I for one would be happy to put behind my dislike of Adam’s music to support the first openly gay best new artist.

  135. you cant show something on american idol tour then turn something diffrent,adam did classic rock and little pop but hes album comeout pop thats why i read from comment on youtube that hes style was awsome but hes more like rocker not poper and everyone was upset about it.he change hes style .i love adam album and hes styyle was awsome it was cool looking with metal arm and chain vest but hes song was new but some considere it old disco song.

  136. I agree with you. I also agree with your post about the political slant, and I for one would be happy to put behind my dislike of Adam’s music to support the first openly gay best new artist.

    Oh Gangreen29, That is really awesome…..Wow this is the first time I have been moved by a posters post based on them commenting on what I had said. I am truly moved. Thank you!

  137. dhunken I get what you meant now. :-) It would be nice to have it be a positive point instead of it being a negative one, ala Malaysia.

    Wow gangreen29 – that’s an incredible statement you made.

  138. siobhan did rock,pop and classic song on american idol tour and she more look like rocker princes and she continue to do so like shock rock of horror.people well buy her album and she make 7million and nominese.

  139. lorismile:
    10/17/2010 at 12:39 am

    dhunken I get what you meant now. :-) It would be nice to have it be a positive point instead of it being a negative one, ala Malaysia.

    Wow gangreen29 – that’s an incredible statement you made.

    Thanks Lorismile makes me feel better that I am being clearer. I did want it to be a positive point. I am truly moved by the awesomeness of posters who can see beyond their own yard sort to speak. You and gangreen29 made my night I thank you both wholeheartedly! :-)

  140. Dhunken I really love all ur positivism haha I think it totally cancels out my negative nacey tendincis….hell u always said SFW should be used in football and I had always said that they would never go for the suggestive lyrics but look at it now…hopefully more good things for Adam’ career are coming with album #2 and even a grammy nod

    *seriously wish my phone had spell check

  141. he is the first gay artist signed by a major record label to be open and do very well even in a weak financial climate. Couple that with all the talk on Gay violence and suicide and many youths needing a roll model many could vote for Adam out trying to make a political statement besides the fact he deserves it just as much as any of them who potentially will be nominated.

    No.

  142. smeggingnuts:
    10/17/2010 at 12:56 am

    Dhunken I really love all ur positivism haha I think it totally cancels out my negative nacey tendincis….hell u always said SFW should be used in football and I had always said that they would never go for the suggestive lyrics but look at it now…hopefully more good things for Adam’ career are coming with album #2 and even a grammy nod

    *seriously wish my phone had spell check

    Smeggs you are wonderful and I don’t see you as negative at all just cautious. BTW I have spell check and it doesn’t seem to help me any :-) You’re Awesome Smeggs Never forget that….ever! Oh and yeah SFW being used for Football isn’t that Great!!!! I love being right…. So much better them being wrong Ha ha ha ha :mrgreen:

  143. I know you’re an Adam Lambert cheerleader and all, but I think you went too far with that comment. I don’t think the Academy is going to vote for Adam because he’s the first openly gay whatever you said and make it all political. It’s — no.

  144. Good night folks. Thanks to everyone for the wonderful discussions. Those who I agreed with and those who I didn’t see eye to eye. I respected all of you and I appreciate all your input. Hopefully my words weren’t taken incorrectly and I didn’t offend anyone. I would never wish to hurt anyone. Thanks for the laughs and the opinions which made me dig deeper into myself and reevaluate my viewpoint. Pleasant dreams and happy thoughts.

  145. sp34567:
    10/17/2010 at 1:16 am

    I know you’re an Adam Lambert cheerleader and all, but I think you went too far with that comment. I don’t think the Academy is going to vote for Adam because he’s the first openly gay whatever you said and make it all political. It’s — no.

    Ok you did not read my post clearly. I did not go too far. I was afraid that it would be misconstrued and pretty much said that. I don’t think the academy will only vote for him because he is gay and its political I said it could be a variable that could give him a push that another artist doesn’t have. I said Adam deserves it just as much as any potential nominee. people get recognized for many many things beside the criteria that is suppose to be used. I think you are being too sensitive but I am sorry that you think I went too far I was afraid that what i said would be misunderstood. I don’t want to offend anyone. So I will deleted the post as it was just an opinion and it wasn’t the opinion you read it as. Post is gone Its not that important to me. Its all just words anyway I am not that powerful that I could make my thoughts come true so you don’t have to fret. Sorry I upset you not my intention at all.

    Post is gone

  146. I think I read your post very clearly. You said because of the gay suicides and the bullying that’s in the news right now because Adam is gay that would give him an edge in getting a nomination. That’s how I interpreted it. Like I said, I know you’re an Adam Lambert cheerleader and are probably looking for any way for him to be nominated. But nominating him just because he’s gay and what’s going on in the news? No.

  147. sp34567:
    10/17/2010 at 1:57 am

    I think I read your post very clearly. You said because of the gay suicides and the bullying that’s in the news right now because Adam is gay that would give him an edge in getting a nomination. That’s how I interpreted it. Like I said, I know you’re an Adam Lambert cheerleader and are probably looking for any way for him to be nominated. But nominating him just because he’s gay and what’s going on in the news? No.

    You couldn’t be more wrong if you tried but I am not going to play your game. I already deleted the post and told you what I meant but you choose to ignore that fact and want to use words like Cheerleader and make false accusations like I am looking for a way for him to be nominated. Your too funny. Go try to Push someone Else’s buttons I am not playing Jeez. I think you should focus on what your motivation is, by making more out of this then is there.

  148. Q3: Corrections on your mentions of the country contenders for BNA. Neither Luke Bryan nor Chris Young submitted for BNA. The most viable country act submitted for Best New Artist is Easton Corbin and I wouldn’t rule him out if the Grammys reserve a country slot in the category. Josh Thompson and David Nail would be next in line but they’re only very remote possibilities.

  149. I’m not sure why some feel Adam’s chance of a Best Male Pop Vocal is so small. He has a good chance for WWFM. I’d really be surprised with BNA though. Too many nominees in that catergory went platinum with huge singles (Bieber/Drake/Ke$ha) or got lots of love from critics. For someone off Idol, Adam didn’t sell enough albums to stand out and still has some stigma in terms of cred.

  150. windmills:
    10/17/2010 at 8:39 am

    Q3: Corrections on your mentions of the country contenders for BNA. Neither Luke Bryan nor Chris Young submitted for BNA. The most viable country act submitted for Best New Artist is Easton Corbin and I wouldn’t rule him out if the Grammys reserve a country slot in the category. Josh Thompson and David Nail would be next in line but they’re only very remote possibilities.

    Thanks, I listed my picks plus all the possibles from the 3 main prediction articles at the bottom on my list — my picks did not include a country artist. But I could be wrong on this one.

    I clearly do not follow country music — but will check out these artists.

    Could it be a BNA with no country act? Not impossible — but would be odd. Who will all these country voters go for? There probably will be a Country BNA nominee — because there are so many Country voters.

    jpfan:
    10/17/2010 at 9:56 am

    I’m not sure why some feel Adam’s chance of a Best Male Pop Vocal is so small. He has a good chance for WWFM. I’d really be surprised with BNA though. Too many nominees in that catergory went platinum with huge singles (Bieber/Drake/Ke$ha) or got lots of love from critics. For someone off Idol, Adam didn’t sell enough albums to stand out and still has some stigma in terms of cred.

    I do not think the BNA is about sales but agree Adam has only a remote chance in this category. But there are only 3 BNA possibles — Bieber, Drake and Ke$ha who have Platinum Albums, Platinum Singles, and are massively successful.

    I think Drake and Bieber are most likely to be nominated. Ke$ha is popular but many not get a nomination for BNA because she is not respected as a performer or recording artist. Many critics savaged her album.

    BNA is about voting blocks. There is no “crap dance-pop sold a lot of music” Grammy voting block. And Taio Cruz will get many of the voters who like Ke$ha. But there are lots of Country, Crhistian/Inspirational, Rock/Alt. Rock, Hip Hop/Urban, R&B, Heritage Rock/Pop and MOR voters. They are not voting for Ke$ha.

    Adam has sold enough to be considered by voters. His album reviews are good to great (71 on Metacritic). He is well known and is considered to have a strong potential in the future. BUT I just can’t figure out what his voting blocks are. I am sure he will not get the country voters or the Christian voters.

    Finally, Adam being openly gay and loosing Idol may help him in the first round vote. I don’t think he will get to the Top 5 but he will get votes.

  151. Q3: There’s something you’re forgetting about BNA. It’s in the general field at the Grammys and like the other 3 categories in the general field (Album Of The Year, Song Of The Year, Record Of The Year), the nominees are picked by a blue ribbon panel from a pool of the 20 acts that got the most votes.

    The winners will still be voted on by the whole Academy but the nominees are picked by a blue ribbon panel. That’s why you almost always get somebody nominated from out of left field and that’s why for nominations, voting blocs don’t matter.

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  153. Category 8 – Best Pop Collaboration with Vocals – 128 entered:
    “Terrified” – Katharine McPhee and Zachary Levi
    “If I Can’t Have You” – Meat Loaf and Kara DioGuardi

    Also submitted but not on mj’s master list above:

    Best Pop Collaboration with Vocals
    Crying – Clay Aiken & Linda Eder

    I think this has a chance.

    Anyone have the list for Best Traditional Pop Vocal Album? I heard Clay’s Tried and True is submitted in that category.

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