David Archuleta Teen Choice Awards and More

Reader, VegasDee, sent me an interesting little tidbit she found on the net:

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I got an email from Andrew Hey (BS ‹06) who working as an engineer at Underdog Entertainment in LA. Andrew says Ive been working like crazy on all sorts of stuff. He sent me a list that reads like a who who of contemporary R & B: Jordin Sparks, Chris Brown, Toni Braxton, David Archuletta, Elliot Yamin, Jojo , Brandy, and Jennifer Hudson.

Hm. The Underdogs are working with David Archuleta (as well as a few other Idols like Elliott Yamin, Jennifer Hudson and Jordin Sparks)… Archie also has songwriter Kara DioGuardi, who has written song songs for Taylor Hicks and Kelly Clarkson, penning songs for him (as well as Cook). David has been busy writing his own songs too, as he tells a reporter for the Salt Lake Tribune that he stayed in and worked on his songwriting during a recent vacation to Lake Powell. Hard working guy!

According to Amazon, David’s CD is scheduled to be released on November 4. I have a feeling the date is random. Release dates are subject to change, and they almost always do…

Lastly, David asks the teens out there, in a recent blog post–well actually, it sounds like a request from his people–to please vote for him in the Teen Choice Awards.

His category? Most fanatic fans…

The awards will be presented on FOX, August 4, 8 pm.

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91 Comments

  1. I have a feeling the date is random.

    Why? How does Amazon usually get the CD dates? I am not sure whether it is a good or bad thing to have election day as the release date, though.

  2. Why? How does Amazon usually get the CD dates? I am not sure whether it is a good or bad thing to have election day as the release date, though.

    I have no idea how Amazon got the date, but I can tell you from experience that this date WILL change. They always do.

    ETA: The tour ends in mid-september, 2 weeks sooner than in previous years. Maybe TPTB are shooting for quick release dates this year, because of the extra time they have to work with. Still, the dates at this point are guestimates at best by the label.

  3. So, he actually got a TCA category, huh?

    Wasn’t there some sort of campaign to get him on the ballot?

    “Most Fanatic Fans”? Um…yikes?

  4. His category? Most fanatic fansà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

    Well, he’s sure a contendor in that category. I’m sure Ricky is working overtime to get him the win. Actually, I’d love to see little Archie get an award, so I hope his fans can pull it out.

    I am not sure whether it is a good or bad thing to have election day as the release date, though.

    Well, I’m not sure if it would matter in a regular year, but this is a presidential election. And, a pretty historic one at that. You can’t create buzz with that kind of news saturation. I agree with MJ – that date will change.

  5. David is certainly a busy young man. It’s interesting that Underdog Ent. is on board as well. Might actually get a little soul from David after all, yay.

    Not sure I like the Most Fanatic Fans category. Surely is won’t hurt to win, but truly I prefer he doesn’t. My three eligble kids will vote for him, my little boy will undoubtedly want to vote for his faves, The Jonas Bros.

    I am almost sure that date will change. I think it will be a couple of weeks later, I think Cook will release first, well after the other Cook, Kristy that is……

  6. I find it hard to believe the date is final too. For one thing, it’s too early for a difinitive release date to be set in stone – he hasn’t even finished recording yet (or choosing songs). Also, his dad has been talking to fans and saying the album is due “before Christmas”. November is indeed before Christmas, but wouldn’t he just say “November” in that case? IDK.

    Also – after the campaign the Archies arranged to have him nominated in the TCA, I honestly can’t think of a more apt category. Sounds like the TCA people were amused after all.
    (-:

  7. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Most Fanatic Fansà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ? Umà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦yikes?

    That’s my reaction, too.

  8. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Most Fanatic Fansà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ? Umà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦yikes?

    The Jonas Brothers are probably going to win.

    As an award for teens to vote on, I don’t find it that scary. I just hope the adults stay out of it, and allow the kids to do their thing…

  9. I’m very excited about The Underdogs working with David. I agree that the date will likely change. I hope though that they release his album before Black Friday.

  10. I actually spent my time trying to write songs. I just want the best things to be on there, so I’m just trying to write and learn. I’m pretty new to the whole thing, pretty amateurish. You only get better by keeping on doing it, that’s how you learn, by writing and writing and writing. I love to do it. It’s like your own story that you’re telling to people.

    I really love that David is so eager to learn and not afraid to admit that he has a lot to learn. He’ll go far with that attitude.

  11. As an award for teens to vote on, I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t find it that scary. I just hope the adults stay out of it, and allow the kids to do their thingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

    Exactly…. Only, I fear that may not be the case.

    I previously thought that David A. wasn’t nominated in any category for the TCAs. Was he a recent addition, or was it always there, and I hadn’t noticed?

  12. I hope though that they release his album before Black Friday.

    I’ve seen this pop up a few times. Could someone tell me what’s the significance? And when is Black Friday, anyway?

  13. I really love that David is so eager to learn and not afraid to admit that he has a lot to learn. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll go far with that attitude.

    ITA. Right now, David’s humility is one of the best things he’s got going for him. It’s a quality that can help people that age keep things in perspective.

  14. I admit, Fanatic Fans is not the greatest category but David A is against must stronger competition than David C..like Miley, Jonas, Jesse M and Britney..vote for them both!

  15. That’s true, and I’m glad you pointed that out–as long as the “grown-ups” stay out of it, and it’s for teens/by teens, then it’s not that scary, and just something for the kids to have fun with. And maybe some of the fans of those other stars who don’t know David will get curious and give him a look and listen. He’s a sweetie–they’re sure to love him. Hard to imagine though that at this point any teenager doesn’t already know him!

  16. I previously thought that David A. wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t nominated in any category for the TCAs. Was he a recent addition, or was it always there, and I hadnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t noticed?

    Recent addition, brought on by his fans blanketing the TCA e-mail with complaints about how he wasn’t nominated in the first place (Although the original intent was to get him into the same category as David Cook – Choice TV Male Reality/Variety Star).
    I actually think this category is brilliant – it gives the fans what they want, and it represents the exact reason the nomination was added in the first place. Good move by the TCA people.

  17. Jolene,
    So what do you mean “the original intent was to get him into the same category as DC”??? That isn’t true, at all. I’m an archie and nowhere did I see fans saying they thought TCA needed to add him to that category. Sorry, but not true.

    MJ,
    Do you really think that only teens are going to be voting in the other categories? Plus, what does it matter, I thought David’s fanbase WAS only screaming teenybopper girls? So if he wins, then it’ll be a completely justified win, no?

  18. Might actually get a little soul from David after all, yay.

    I found this quote by his uncles ( well it’s kinda hearsay coming from a fan)

    I also met his uncle that lives in Livermore, here in the Central Valley. We spoke briefly and I asked him if they always knew that David was so special. He spoke about Davidà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s time on Star Search and how proud they were of him. He also said that David is capable of so much more than what has been shown so far, and that he canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t wait for Davidà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s soul and R&B side to come out!! He said that David truly has a soulful vibe to him and that he excels in that genre.

  19. Do you really think that only teens are going to be voting in the other categories? Plus, what does it matter, I thought Davidà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fanbase WAS only screaming teenybopper girls?

    I think MJ’s been pretty clear on the fact that she’s aware that Archie’s fans are not all screaming tweens. I don’t know if you’re directing that comment at her, but MJ rarely remarks on fan bases at all.

    I think the way most of grown-ups feel is that it should be the teens voting in the TCA’s – not adults pretending to be teens. And, maybe that is what people mean when they say it’s not a scary category if it’s really the teens voting. Adults voting in such a category is pretty lame. So, I don’t think anyone’s commenting on whether or not any win will be justified.

    That isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t true, at all. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m an archie and nowhere did I see fans saying they thought TCA needed to add him to that category.

    I do believe there’s a “written” internet record of the outrage that Archie’s fans felt about David C being nominated for a TCA, and David A not being included. So, the angry e-mail campaign may not have specifically noted that the fans wanted him in the same category as David C., but they sure couldn’t have specified to nominate him in a category that did not at the time exist. So, I think the spirit of Jolene’s comment is correct.

    Either way, Archie has some stiff competition in that category, but I’d still like to see him win. He’s a sweet kid.

  20. I hope we get confirmation soon that he is working with Ryan Tedder.

    I thought Ryan Tedder confirmed this himself by talking to one fan? He said that he is working on a few songs with David, and they should make into his album. But a lot of things can still happen. That’s what Ryan said.

  21. I thought Ryan Tedder confirmed this himself by talking to one fan? He said that he is working on a few songs with David, and they should make into his album. But a lot of things can still happen. Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s what Ryan said.

    I read that conversation too, but I can’t remember where. I was just rooting around trying to find it. I do remember him saying that he had written not just one, but a few songs for David.

  22. I read that account from the fan, ianamy. It’s not that I don’t believe that it isn’t true. I would just like some confirmation from Ryan himself, David, or Jive.

  23. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m an archie and nowhere did I see fans saying they thought TCA needed to add him to that category. Sorry, but not true.

    I could easily go and search the thread on Rickey when the TCA nominations were first announced, and find you at least a dozen comments about how unfair it is that DA wasn’t nominated in the category with DC, and urging the fans to e-mail en mass to change the verdict. The talk about a different category only started after TCA reps replied to the first e-mails, stating that other categories may be added later, but no other nominations in existing categories will.
    I even remember fans discussing how much it would hurt DA’s chances that his nomination be added to the category “a few days later”, thus losing precious voting time against the other fan bases.
    I know later on it became “as long as he’s nominated”, but I stand by my original statement – the first outrage was most certainly that he and DC weren’t both nominated for the same award.

  24. That isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t true, at all. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m an archie and nowhere did I see fans saying they thought TCA needed to add him to that category.

    I do believe thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“writtenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  internet record of the outrage that Archieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fans felt about David C being nominated for a TCA, and David A not being included. So, the angry e-mail campaign may not have specifically noted that the fans wanted him in the same category as David C., but they sure couldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have specified to nominate him in a category that did not at the time exist. So, I think the spirit of Joleneà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s comment is correct.

    Indeed. Here is one petition effort.

    I just remember seeing all of the categories and not noticing his name initially. That was the reason for my initial question. It doesn’t really matter. I hope he does well.

    As for adults posing as teens in order to vote…um, yeah. I know that it happens…and has already happened. No way is that fair.

  25. There was also a fan who talked to Josh Hoge and he confirmed that as well.
    I read that recap, IGetCranked. It made me really excited. I love R&B music so I’d love for David to show that side of himself on his album. But we already know he has that side from when he was on Star Search. He was known as The Soul Man from Utah.

  26. As for adults posing as teens in orderà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦yeah. I know that it happensà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦and has already happened. No way is that fair.

    Not only is it unfair, it’s a bit, well…pathetic.

    I would hope most of the people blanketing the TCA with angry emails were teens as well…

  27. I think the way most of grown-ups feel is that it should be the teens voting in the TCAà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s – not adults pretending to be teens. And, maybe that is what people mean when they say ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not a scary category

    Speaking only for myself, that’s exactly what I meant. Let the real teens have their vote, chips fall where they may, etc., etc. We adults have a certain other election to attend to. :)

  28. But we already know he has that side from when he was on Star Search. He was known as The Soul Man from Utah.

    I did not know that Kris – thanks for that little tidbit of info. I have maintained for a while now that I think David A has a voice built for soul and R&B. I still believe his finest performance on AI was Shop Around. And, even though it wasn’t a full recording, I still downloaded it.

    I know Archie likes the big inspirational ballads, but I didn’t find him nearly as compelling doing those. Odds are, I won’t buy Archie’s cd. But, I have to admit that if he really did funk it up a bit, and use that meaty part of his voice, I might actually be tempted to purchase.

  29. I still believe his finest performance on AI was Shop Around. And, even though it wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t a full recording, I still downloaded it.

    ITA on this. I really loved that performance and downloaded it at my son’s request, but it’s one of my favorites of Archie’s too.

  30. David’s voice is indeed built for soul and R&B that is why I like it, well one of the reasons…..I truly hope to see that evidenced on his cd. Two of my favorite songs from David was Shop Around, and the recording of the much lamented We Can Work It Out. In the studio, it’s awesome! I listen to it every day. Yep, Arsenio Hall did dub him the Soul Man from Utah, and was hoping Underdog would work with him back then, he’s so much better now…..

  31. Not only is it unfair, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a bit, wellà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦pathetic.

    I kinda think that in their minds, it is helping him get his career started.. getting him in the spotlight more than wanting him to have the award itself. Like overparenting..

  32. I just ran to the scary boards and rumor is that David will be performing Crazy on Studio 5 on Tuesday. That is what I’ve been curious to see and why I keep snooping on boards!

  33. I think Idol fans just get so used to voting they can’t stop. In terms of Archie’s career, I think it’ll be okay if the Jonas Bros. win this prestigious award. David A. is way past all the teens in that category vocally already. You can hear the r&b in his voice when he does Stand by Me. He just needs to overcome the dreaded curse of the Idol runner up.

  34. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve seen this pop up a few times. Could someone tell me whatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the significance? And when is Black Friday, anyway?

    Black Friday’s a name for that huge shopping day after Thanksgiving…19 always targets to have the Idol CDs out by then to catch the holiday shoppers on that day.

    It’s a pretty tight window every year – they can’t really work full time on the albums till after tour ends in September, then they’re rushing to get it out for the holidays, because after Christmas is a really dead time for music sales…plus you have the next season starting up already.

    It’s pretty rough on the kids, since they are basically singing non-stop for a year from the start of their season through promotion of their albums.

  35. Thank you for the informative answer, Michelle! Nice to learn something new, and sounds like great fun, too.
    I checked, and this year Black Friday is Nov 28, so I think DA will likely have his album out by then.

  36. David A, first single “Crush” Impacting on top 40radio 8/12/08 according to All Access.

  37. “Crush?” Like on a real live girl? Gosh!

    ( seriously, hope it does well!)

  38. Now I’m a little irked. I can understand Jordin last year getting a single out so early since she won, this is even earlier than “Tattoo was out. I’m not sure if the 11/4 date will stick or not but since Cookie’s CD is also set to release in November it at least tells me they’re planning on releasing Archie’s first. No way do I expect an early single for DC either since RCA never releases early. Between this and Kristy’s September release maybe winning IS meaningless after all.

  39. It’s up on All Access under Future New Releases. You can’t see it unless you are registerd with the site. I am so excited.

  40. Is Studio 5 a local SLC show?

    I believe it is MJ.

    I had a feeling Archie would get a quick single release. I think that is why they didn’t release a single from the show like DC.

  41. Thank you all for the links! This is all very exciting. Go Archie and Kristy!

  42. Between this and Kristyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s September release maybe winning IS meaningless after all.

    I’m inclined to agree with this statement, unfortunately.
    I honestly thought that the treatment that Taylor Hicks received was simply because he was not and could not be commercial. However, this year, they got a winner who proved both during and after the season that he could sell music. He has proven that he can get radio airplay even with a crappy coronation song by cracking the top 10 in AC and HAC and breaking into the Top 40. He is recording while on tour, there is no Axium or MWK shadow tour to speak of and there is not a single gray hair on his head. And….he signed with 19 instead of getting management elsewhere. So, what gives?
    Is this his punishment for not knowing the producers for years or previously being signed to a Sony/BMG label? Perhaps it is true that the winner is determined long before Ryan Seacrest makes an announcement.
    Ah, well, I wish KLC and Archie the best, but, seriously, David Cook does not deserve the Hicks treatment. What a shame. If I were him, I would get a damn good lawyer and get the hell out of there and go back to finding my own path, since they obviously aren’t interested.

  43. Between this and Kristyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s September release maybe winning IS meaningless after all.

    By winning Cook gets a record contract. That is the meaning of winning, right? And a lot of promotion.

    But if just assume winning will do all work without the label and the singer going all out for the release, then that is a mistake on their side, not the runner-ups. Props for these runner-ups’ labels for striking quick. I see no reason why Archie and Kristy cannot release first, if this happened in both season 2 and 5. It’s not like they are breaking rules.

  44. sherryw, I understand what you mean and I really don’t know how I feel about it because I like both Davids exactly the same. I thought Archie may be treated special because he was extremely popular and probably got as many votes as previous winners but that doesn’t explain why Kristy is first. *shrugs* Basically, I think we should just enjoy all the music and personalites that we would never have known about it if it wasn’t for this show and not worry about the details. We can’t change it so I don’t want to cloud my happiness.

  45. CRUSH – How perfect is that! August 12, is not that far away. BTW, I think despite his repeated *I’m too young* comments, he’s a little wistful about not having a girlfriend. Quote from Fox News Entertainment, yesterday (sorry if it’s been up before) – Find a crush Archie – go boy, go!
    :biggrin_wp:

    David Archuleta Having Trouble Finding Sane Girlfriend
    “American Idol” runner-up David Archuleta is the new teen/tween pin-up, but the talented 17-year-old is struggling to find that special someone who doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t start screaming when heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s around.
    “Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not dating anyone. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m still pretty young but I would still à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ nah, yeah,” he stammered as we caught up with him backstage before the Idol Tour concert in Los Angeles on Monday.
    “Right now ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a matter of focusing on the right things, and that would be distracting for me. But maybe afterward when things start to settle more, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure I will run into someone. But Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m meeting all these girls now and theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re like, ‘Hi, David!'” he said with a mock gasp. “How do you really get to know someone when theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re all loopy like that?”

  46. Woah sherryw hold up. I didn’t say I thought he was getting the Taylor treatment and I think it’s REALLY premature to make such a bold statement. It could be something, it could be nothing. Maybe they don’t think Archie is a threat to DC? Maybe this is just how Jive operates? As for Kristy, Pickler also got a very early single. Yes, TOML did very well on the radio and I don’t believe it magically went up the charts. I think there had to be some label support there. It got more summer airplay than most coronation songs and is still getting airplay so he does have some radio presence. I’m not convinced RCA is ready to screw him over and David should start getting lawyers. Very premature to say such a bold thing.

  47. Neither Kristy or Archie releasing first has any bearing on Cookies sales, does it? Every year the fanbases get their hackles up about something. I don’t think Daughtry releasing first, or Clay releasing first had any negative impact on the winners those respective years. Taylor didn’t sell mega units because his cd was less that what his fans wanted. Ruben sold well, not as well as Clay but close to 2 million certainly wasn’t underperforming.

    I mean as an Archuleta fan, I could have complained about him not having a single I could purchase after the show. I could have accused tptb of giving him the Guarini treatment. I mean I read about a little disappointment here and there, but not much. I had a wait and see attitude. I had heard from the beginning that he would have a single this summer. I am happy and don’t think it takes away one iota from Cookie’s win. How could it?

    ETA; I think there will be a bigger uproar over Archie singing Crazy, than this. Should there be? Nah!

  48. At least Cookie will be wearing his free shoes when they choose the semi to run over him.

    Very premature to say such a bold thing.

    I don’t think it’s premature at all. The only seasons where other contestants released before the winner were seasons in which the winner went on to fade into obscurity. And, it’s a damn shame, because Cookie really does have potential and has proven that but he is still getting screwed.

  49. Wonder how poor Jason feels about DA singing “Crazy”? A little unfair to him isn’t it?

    One of the perks to WINNING is that your album and/or single should be released FIRST! Basta!

  50. Good for Archie! Sounds like he had a pretty good team behind this one. I hope it turns out to be a good song, since I’m sure I’ll be hearing a lot of it : )

    As a Cook fan, I find it slightly annoying that we have release dates for #7 and #2 and not for David’s first single, but I realize that it’s a bit irrational to predict doom for DC’s career because Archie has a single being released in August. As far as I can tell, they’ve both been working equally hard on their albums and there’s no reason not to expect that DC will also have a single well before his album is out. For all we know, DC will have a single released in August, too, and we just don’t know about it yet.

    I do hope that DC’s single quickly follows because if Archie’s “Crush” does better than say, Magic Rainbows, (which it probably will, since it is presumably a real, actual song, with real songwriters) things could get ugly!

  51. I cannot help but tire of how DA always has to be in the limelight when in actuality it should be the winner. Just had to say that as I am annoyed right now…I’m sure I won’t be tomorrow but I am now.

  52. One of the perks to WINNING is that your album and/or single should be released FIRST!

    Ok, isn’t magic rainbow the single of Cook’s?

    There is Kristy who is releasing first. Why not blast her for always in the limelight? It’s not just Archie…

  53. Dave C and Archie are going to have such different types of music so it won’t matter. Dave C is definetly not getting screwed because he has some of the best talent working with him. Taylor’s best songs were the ones he wrote.

    I think Jason is probably cool with it. Actually Archie wanted to sing it for the concerts but Jason got it first.

  54. Ok, isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t magic rainbow the single of Cookà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s?

    I think you know very well my point.

  55. Wow I’m sorry I posted what I did. I think I’ll back away and take a little break from here because regardless I choose to believe DC will be fine but I guess I’m being silly and naive. Someone should probably tip David off and tell him to get Taylor’s number so they could mourn they’re singing careers together.

  56. I think Jason is probably cool with it. Actually Archie wanted to sing it for the concerts but Jason got it first.

    I don’t believe we can really know if Jason is okay with this can we?

  57. I thought Archie may be treated special because he was extremely popular and probably got as many votes as previous winners but that doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t explain why Kristy is first.

    If Archie got more votes than previous winners then that means that Cookie who actually won, got more votes than previous winners. Neither of them were ever in the bottom two so how is Cook not just as popular, if not more so?

    Ok, isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t magic rainbow the single of Cookà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s?

    This Is My Now was technically Jordin’s first single as well but that didn’t stop them from releasing Tattoo two months before Blake released anything. And….I said nothing, because she won and deserved the winner’s treatment.

  58. I think you know very well my point.

    I think I “know.” But Amazon preorder says magic rainbow is featured in Cook’s album, so it is technically a first single for the album. Archie didn’t get a single, as other runner-ups.

    In addition, Kristy is the one releasing her album in September. So I think it is a bit unfair to blame Archie on RCA’s delay.

  59. I don’t see how that is unfair to Jason. David wanted to sing “Crazy” on tour but couldn’t because Jason wanted to. David is only singing it one time for his fans who have been unable to see it. I also don’t think that Jason would mind given that he gets to sing the song on tour.

    I also don’t think that David releasing a single in August means that 19 is going to screw over Cook. I don’t see that at all. They got him a huge endorsement deal where he will be plastered on billboards. The producers have been raving about how many albums Cook is going to sell.

    I also think that just because David didn’t win doesn’t mean that he shouldn’t have a chance to have a successful album.

  60. I don’t understand why Cook fans are complaining that Archie’s single is released before Cook’s. I thought TOML was Cook’s single. It was hell for Archie fans to not be able to listen to any of Archie’s songs after AI and be stuck with TOML. I’m pretty sure Cook’s album is gonna be released before Archie’s. 19E is spending lots of dough on Cook to promote him as well like the Sketchers deal.

  61. For all we know, DC will have a single released in August, too, and we just donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know about it yet.

    I was going to ask if there had been any news of release dates for Cook. If we don’t know the dates of release for his next single and CD, it’s hard to make these comparisons.

    I cannot help but tire of how DA always has to be in the limelight when in actuality it should be the winner.

    As an Archie fan (who really likes Cook too, I might add), I don’t see that he is “always in the limelight.” Archie is getting attention, but Cook is still being treated as the winner and his media coverage seems much more extensive to me.

    I know that I am naive, but I think that they are both strong enough to do just fine. In my mind the competition is over and I’m ready to enjoy both of their CDs, no matter whose is released first.

    ETA: Again, maybe I’m naive, but I would think Cook would rather take longer to put together an album he really wanted than to throw one together quickly just to “beat” Archie’s release. (And that’s IF his album is released later, which I don’t think it will be.)

  62. I do wish DA the best, he seems to be a really sweet kid…his style of music is far from my taste, but nevertheless he deserves success.

    However, I think it is unfair and wrong if indeed DA has a single released before DC…and doubly so if DA’s album is released before DC’s.

  63. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t believe we can really know if Jason is okay with this can we?

    Hence why I said think and probably. I’m also basing that on Jason’s laid back demeanor. Also it is not like it is on MTV or something.

    If Archie got more votes than previous winners then that means that Cookie who actually won, got more votes than previous winners. Neither of them were ever in the bottom two so how is Cook not just as popular, if not more so?

    Your misunderstanding me. I am not comparing the two Davids popularity against each other, obviously Cook is the more popular or he wouldn’t have won. I’m simply saying that Archie was an extremely popular contestant with a huge talent and potential period. They would be stupid not to do something with it.

  64. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s premature at all. The only seasons where other contestants released before the winner were seasons in which the winner went on to fade into obscurity. And, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a damn shame, because Cookie really does have potential and has proven that but he is still getting screwed.

    A bit of an over-reaction, methinks… While I personally enjoyed the performances of both Davids, their style of music caters to very different demographics. And Kristy Lee Cook is, of course, country. I seriously doubt KLC and DA coming out with singles and albums first will have any impact on DC’s eventual sales. If anything, those releases might serve to increase the anticipation of DC’s own fanbase.

    Like blockbuster movies during the summer, as long as the album releases are not too close together, no one will be stealing anyone else’s thunder.

  65. “I do wish DA the best, he seems to be a really sweet kidà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦his style of music is far from my taste, but nevertheless he deserves success.

    However, I think it is unfair and wrong if indeed DA has a single released before DCà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦and doubly so if DAà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s album is released before DCà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s.”

    Dude Cook fans..Archie fans had to listen to TOML on the radio without anything from Archie..how can you say it’s still unfair to Cook? Trust me, 19E is spending lots and lots of dough trying to promote Cook.

  66. I think it is unfair and wrong if indeed DA has a single released before DCà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦and doubly so if DAà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s album is released before DCà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s.

    What about Kristy? What about Clay, Kellie and Daughtry?

    You get a great career by putting out a good album, not by releasing first.

  67. OMG. This isn’t IDF, it’s not the Scary boards. It isn’t the place to fan wank. I hate that shit. If you want to hand-wring and overreact, if you want to bait the other side, you ain’t doing it here. Go to a fan board.

    We have no idea whose single is being released first at this point, and in any case, what does it matter? The Davids are out in the real world now, they aren’t competing against each other any more. They have enough to worry about surviving in this cut throat business than to be worrying about who outsells who and which of this year’s crop releases first.

    This is teetering on the edge of a fan war. If it escalates, I close the thread, and I put the instigators in moderation.

  68. I suddenly had a mental image of the two Davids reading this thread and looking at each other like, “what the…?”

  69. Oh shit! We’ve brought out MJ! I guess we all need to chill. However the singles are released and the order really isn’t up to us. We will just have to be content with being excited about buying our faves singles and/or albums when they are released.

  70. I haven’t read the entire thread here yet, but my comment that I made that all of Archie’s fans are teenybopper girls, was not directed at MJ.. it was directed at the general consensus regarding his fanbase. So if that’s really true, all the widespread generalizations that only young 13 year olds are his fans, then his win would be accepted as a true win right? One where I do not expect any negative talk anywhere about how his adult fans voted for him? I hope so. But from the talk I see going on here already, I am thinking not. But what about if Cook wins, then will it be b/c his adult fans “pathetically” voted for him, too?

  71. But what about if Cook wins, then will it be b/c his adult fans “pathetically” voted for him, too?

    Any adult who pretends to be a teen to vote in the Teen Choice awards is pathetic, in my opinion, I don’t care who they are voting for.

  72. Whatever ppl..just vote for both Davids. Archies have been busying voting for Cook too and Archie is against some tough competition

  73. I wasn’t above having my two teen daughters vote for DC…and I didn’t even have to bribe them!

  74. Archie and the tough competition – someone put up somes of the people that are this tough competition of his, they said Jonas Brothers, Britney, Miley Cyrus – was that a joke? That is his tough competition? Really????

  75. That is his tough competition? Really????

    Miley Cyrus and the Jonas Brothers are INCREDIBLY popular right now amongst young people. Any Idol would be lucky to outsell either of them, particularly Miley.

    Yes, it’s very tough competition.

  76. Well considering how massively popular the Jonas Brothers & Miley Cyrus are at the moment…. yes, David Archuleta has some tough competition indeed. I hope his teen fans are voting like crazy for him, but I’m sure they are!!!

    And really, I do hope that both Davids win in their category .. it’d be a great day if that happens.. keeping my fingers crossed.

  77. Am I a bad Archie fan if I say that I won’t be too upset if he doesn’t win this award? Of course, Hooray for Archie! if he wins, but in light of all of the big things happening for him this summer, this particular award seems rather (for lack of a better word) silly. :unsure_tb:

  78. I agree lefty. I think it would have been more fun to see Archie present the award to Dave C. Of course TCA couldn’t be sure that Dave would win.

  79. I think it would have been more fun to see Archie present the award to Dave C.

    Now THAT I would have loved to see.

  80. 19E is spending lots of dough on Cook to promote him as well like the Sketchers deal.

    just for the sake of accuracy, 19 is MAKING money off the skechers deal, not spending it.

  81. It’s just my personal opinion that David Archuleta has tougher competition against the current teen titans. I don’t remember who David Cook was against except for Brody Jenner.

  82. “Miley Cyrus and the Jonas Brothers are INCREDIBLY popular right now amongst young people.”

    I have a 10 year old daughter with a whole lotta friends so that is not news to me. I just didnt think of David A is that category – for the most part on AI he sang ballads that the older set seemed to love too. So, I was thinking of it in that direction. I wouldnt compare him to Cyrus or Jonas brothers in that way – or in the same league as those kids as far as his voice and the types of songs he sings compared to their bubble gum. So, seeing him compared to them struck me funny. I was just skimming thru this, didnt read it all and my daughter was with me and of course caught the names of her favs. But as I went back and read over the rest I see where that statement came from now and that silly award most likely will not go to David A against the likes of the ones mentioned.

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