Crystal Bowersox Might Cover a Sista Otis Song on her Upcoming Album

Will Crystal Bowersox be covering a song for her upcoming album from one of her favorite artists, Sista Otis?

The Detroit based Otis wrote on her facebook:

Crystal Bowersox wants to use my song, Love Is Spiritual on her first release on Jive records. If Jive OKs it then I’ve sold my first song to a major artist and this will continue to open more doors to a life long music making career. WOOOOOOO YESSSSSSSSS!!!!

Would Jive OK “Love is Spiritual” as one of the few songs on Crystal’s album she didn’t have a hand in writing, or would the label insist she record tunes from the usual stable of Idol songwriters? Hm.

  • Listen to “Love is Spiritual” on MySpace

What do you think? I’d like to see Crystal record songs that fit her vibe, rather than the typical cookie-cutter Idol fare. If this is legit, I hope it works out.  After the jump, Crystal talks about Sista Otis in a FOX Detroit interview taped back in May while she was still on Idol.

Video after the JUMP…

Crystal talks about Sista Otis during American Idol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apNBDV_mlec

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83 Comments

  1. I can’t think of any reason why Jive wouldn’t let her put this cover on her album, as long as the license fee isn’t too much. Now would they release it as a single? That’s a different story. But as an album cut — why not?

  2. I understand Crystal wanting to record songs that fit her vibe, but she also need songs that can get some radio play. It’s hard to sell a album if the songs are never played on the radio, especially for a newcomer.

  3. This song actually sounds more pop radio friendly than most of her music. Maybe that’s partly why she wants to do it. I’m sure she could do an awesome job with it.

  4. I think Crystal could sing the snot out of that song. It sounds like it would be a great addition to her album. It will be interesting to hear what changes to the instrumentation are made, if it actually makes it to the record.

  5. Thanks for posting this. I dont think its only the license fee that Jive would taking into factor here. Jive is one of the big 4s out there and they probably can match any offer that Sista Otis puts out. From her facebook page she seemed to be more happy and just honored to get that song exposed through Crystal cos I think she believes Crystal would do justice to that song.

    Jive would have some “formula” for their AI albums, the no. cowrites/solos they give to those artists, their basis on the cover songs etc and it might not be what Crystal is intending to go here. So this song might not even make it on the album. But I am happy that atleast shes trying her best to put out what she wants.

    Andy11:
    This song actually sounds more pop radio friendly than most of her music. Maybe that’s partly why she wants to do it. I’m sure she could do an awesome job with it.

    Sure the song is more radio friendly than her stripped down mostly-live-recorded songs out there. But I seriously doubt thats the reason why she is going to cover that song. She says in that interview that she wants to do whatever she can to her local influences (like frankie may, brain walker and sista otis) whom she believes really deserve more recognition than what they are getting now. Also Sista Otis saying that it will continue to open more doors for her validates this point.

    If Crystal doesnt become a voice for her generation, well at least shes a voice for the musicians that she feels most connected to, right :)

  6. I think I will be buying Crystal’s album for sure; sounds intriguing and different than what is currently out there.

  7. I agree fictitious. I said “partly.” I’m sure Jive wants some pop radio friendly stuff on the album and what better way to do it than with the music of someone she admires.

  8. Personally, I liked the first minute or so, after that it goes a little down hill for me, gets busy and the song loses somewhat the melody. But if it indeed would pass Jive´s screening, which I sort of doubt, I can see Crystal taking the song to another level.

    I don´t have any idea how well her debut will sell, but kinda certain she´ll tab into a demographic that no former AI has done before. How that will play into the big picture I don´t have any idea

  9. Sorry Andy11. Yeah I know you said partly, wasnt trying to misquote you there. And I am 100% sure on your Jives reasoning to go along with this. But on Crystals side, looking at what she has been saying in the interviews and all it doesnt feel that she would put music just for the sake of playing on the radio. Even her old record producer (whom apparently has a lot of unreleased studio recordings, oh man wouldnt it be nice to hear those :=) !!) also said that she is very strongly in favor of stripped down just guitar and her voice singing the song. I kinda understand her point here cos most of her songs are like story telling, very emotional and overproducing or too much music would just kill it.

  10. I wonder what she loves about that song. It’s OK I suppose but I don’t hear anything special.

  11. She says in that interview that she wants to do whatever she can to her local influences (like frankie may, brain walker and sista otis) whom she believes really deserve more recognition than what they are getting now. Also Sista Otis saying that it will continue to open more doors for her validates this point.

    IMO, Crystal will never forget her past years as a struggling artist, and will use her new fame not only to bring awareness to social issues as she´s been doing, but also to other talented artists who are under the radar. Wouldn´t be surprised if some of them will be opening acts when she tours some time later on

  12. Indigobunting:
    I think I will be buying Crystal’s album for sure; sounds intriguing and different than what is currently out there.

    I know it will sound different :=). Whether it is a good thing or bad thing well we just have to wait and see. I think its either gonna be a hit or a miss lol. But thats really the interesting thing isn’t it i.e. not knowing exactly what to expect. Curiosity and intriguing makes it worth the wait i guess, for me at least.

  13. I know it will sound different :=). Whether it is a good thing or bad thing well we just have to wait and see. I think its either gonna be a hit or a miss lol.

    IMO, if people like both some of her AI performances and originals, it will never be “bad thing” or a “miss”. I´d say either good or great

  14. Eriko: You could be right. I believe if they let Crystal be who she is then it could be a hit. But if they try to mold her into somebody she is not then its probably gonna tank (I am big fan but sorry I hear that the label does influence the outcome of the album and the “formula” that they’ve been trying so far doesnt seem to work out that well. if they use that same formula for her its gonna be much more worse). Having said all that, what we are hearing so far seems to be quite positive so I am hopeful. So i am just enjoying sipping my earl gray in the ‘hit’ camp :=)

  15. At least Crystal is a better singer than Sista Otis. I don’t like the song, but I suspect it’ll sound much different with Crystal singing it.

  16. At first listening to ‘Love Is Spiritual’ the production and sound didn’t have a Crystal feel. But when I put her voice to it and mentally stripped it down a bit, I can feel this for her.

    I’m really looking forward to what she puts out on her debut album. I believe her to be a strong woman and a strong artist. I’m just hoping she chooses her battles wisely so her vision does shine through.

  17. fictitiousreality, I know where you´re coming from. I just don´t think Crystal is “mold-able” Surely, she will compromise, to what extent, who knows. But I´m very confident that Crystals signature will be present on all the songs. Taking into account her recent interviews, David´s Bendeth tweet about her being an “Americana Idol” (Americana Music?) and him being the sole producer, Jeff Kazee input etc, I just can´t imagine the CD being a flop, that is, for Crystals fans. It may be a flop in terms of sales or to those who are not into Crystal or her music. The question for me is, will it be just ok, or very good.

  18. bridgette12:
    10/10/2010 at 11:49 am
    I understand Crystal wanting to record songs that fit her vibe, but she also need songs that can get some radio play. It’s hard to sell a album if the songs are never played on the radio, especially for a newcomer.

    How much radio play did Susan Boyle get?

    Not that I’m saying Crystal will be or wants to be like her, but I think she did just fine without radio play. Plus, as people have said many times, Crystal’s music is not going to sound like her acoustic demos. I said in a thread a while back, I wouldn’t be surprised if there aren’t people “criticizing” her for actually being more modern and pop/rock sounding than they’re expecting.

    But when I put her voice to it and mentally stripped it down a bit, I can feel this for her.

    What’s to say that Crystal’s style is going to be “stripped down?” One of her very acoustic, subdued sounding demos (Holy Toledo) was anything but stripped down sounding when she did it in Toledo on the tour. If that’s an example of what she’d like her style to be like, it’s not stripped down at all – it’s a very full sound when appropriate.

  19. sallysimmons:
    I wonder what she loves about that song. It’s OK I suppose but I don’t hear anything special.

    I think being a songwriter she looks into the words more than the melody (she has said it previously in interviews). I guess that could be a reason why she thinks its special. I am not a lyrics expert but I think the song is about unconditional love. words like “cos it aint ’bout color of your skin, way you do your hair, its gotta come within” feels abt right what wuld get crystal to notice. In addition to that it has a very catchy groove, I simply love Sista’s voice in it. Would be interesting to hear what textures Crystal is going to put into it and how David & Crystal is gonna remake it hmmm…

  20. Taking into account her recent interviews, David´s Bendeth tweet about her being an “Americana Idol” and him being the sole producer, Jeff Kazee input etc, I just can´t imagine the CD being a flop, that is, for Crystals fans. It may be a flop in terms of sales or to those who are not into Crystal or her music. The question for me is, will it be just ok, or very good.

    I have this feeling it’s going to be more than just ok. And I really don’t think it’ll be a flop sales wise either – I was thinking the other day when I was bored, and just based on how many people (not votes) I think she had voting for her by the finale, I won’t be surprised to see her sell between 500K and 1 million by Mother’s Day. I have a feeling she has a huge, but not typical AI fanbase, and one that isn’t well represented on the internet (in fact, one that might not even be that aware of how much these sorts of things are discussed).

  21. Eriko:
    Wouldn´t be surprised if some of them will be opening acts when she tours some time later on

    I’d rather see them do duets than do opening or closing :=) She had a fun time when she did and it was blast to see her perform with michael franti and melissa ethridge. Can never choose a favorite among those two, she looks so happy and so gracious and thankful in both videos we got so far. I like to see more of that :=)

  22. So would this be the one song that she didn’t have a hand in writing then? That is, if the album goes the way she’s hoping. See I still do worry that what she’s said so far about what will be on the album is what she wants to see happen – but that Jive hasn’t weighed in on officially yet.

    I’ve been holding off on it but I’m about ready to ask if anyone else is almost ready to start speculating on the songs on Crystal’s album…lol.

  23. I’d rather see them do duets than do opening or closing :=)

    When I said “Wouldn´t be surprised if some of them will be opening acts when she tours some time later on” I meant as her way of helping them out to make a name for themselves. But first of course, she needs to concentrate on her own career before helping struggling artists

  24. If you listen to the recorded version on myspace versus the live one above, I could easily see it played on radio, possable a top 10 or a hit. Just my thoughts. I also agree w/ mozart4898 that her first album will hit the million mark!

  25. But first of course, she needs to concentrate on her own career before helping struggling artists.

    Not worried about that really. She has got a good start hasnt she? How can you go wrong when melissa says shes the real deal and franti says shes going to make a difference in peoples lives? :=) She has got excellent networking amongst her peers, got strenght to survive and stand on her own, got an excellent manager and now producer who listens to her. Shes defintely on her way :=)

  26. you cannot compare Susan Boyle to Crytal. Aside from the fact that their musical styles are nothing alike, Susan Boyle was a worldwide cultural phenomenom. Crystal…is not.

    Sorry, but it’s highly unlikely her album is going to sell anywhere near 1 million (if Adam, with all his media coverage and huge buzz and critical raves has sold barely 700K, why should we expect Crystal to sell 1 million?). She doesn’t have a huge fanbase to start with, and she doesn’t seem to have any real buzz (in terms of potential record buyers talking about her) outside of AI circles, despite her various appearances. Her music is also not mainstream, and non-mainstream music in general sells far less than the stuff that is all over the radio. A much more realistic goal for Crystal’s album is 250K. Hopefully her album will be really really strong musically — because I think she’s probably got a better chance at big critical success than huge commercial success. And if she gets a lot of critical raves, hopefully that will cause strong word of mouth that will impact sales.

    YMMV of course

  27. At first listening to ‘Love Is Spiritual’ the production and sound didn’t have a Crystal feel. But when I put her voice to it and mentally stripped it down a bit, I can feel this for her.

    ITA. It would sound great with her voice, but they will have to change some of the instrumentation I think.

  28. What’s to say that Crystal’s style is going to be “stripped down?” One of her very acoustic, subdued sounding demos (Holy Toledo) was anything but stripped down sounding when she did it in Toledo on the tour. If that’s an example of what she’d like her style to be like, it’s not stripped down at all – it’s a very full sound when appropriate.

    Mozart, I didn’t say Crystal’s style would be stripped down. I said that I mentally stripped it down of a lot of the electronica that is in that recording on myspace. Maybe our meanings of ‘stripped down’ are different? I certainly don’t see it as a negative.

  29. Personally, I liked the first minute or so, after that it goes a little down hill for me, gets busy and the song loses somewhat the melody. But if it indeed would pass Jive´s screening, which I sort of doubt, I can see Crystal taking the song to another level.

    I think that she could really take this song and do something quite current and radio friendly. I see Crystal as an India.Arie type, and I could really see her do a kinda girl power, spiritual kinda cd that could really be a great counterpart to some of the other stuff on the radio. I am excited.

  30. I won’t be surprised to see her sell between 500K and 1 million by Mother’s Day

    I would be pleasantly surprised, since Gold certification seems to be the equivalent of platinum certification only a few years ago. So, IMO, if she reaches 500k and receives a Gold certification, that will be considered a major success by anyone’s expectations, Jive included. But I like your positivity

  31. I would never guess at sales, I think the industry has changed since Kelly Clarkson, and the days of million dollar sales might be kind of gone forever for Idol winners and runner-ups alike. That said, I think that Crystal has had a surprising amount of buzz outside the “circle.” She’s hit the press numerous times over the last few months – her teeth, her engagement, her appearances on shows like 360 – and people actually appear interested in her. Now look at “culty” faves like Siobhan or Casey. Nary a peep from them. [That’s not to say it won’t happen – just that it hasn’t.]

    It would be extremely interesting if Lee and Crystal score critical acclaim for their albums. I’ve yet to see anyone but Carrie truly capture across the board great reviews for their albums. Sure some people liked Kris’s album and others like Adam’s, etc – but there’s never been an A for more than a few cuts and effort. No matter what she sells, I’d be happy if Crystal achieved that much.

  32. Just to give an idea, here are the 1st week #s for the latest albums from a couple of Crystal’s idols/mentors:

    Melissa Ethridge’s latest album sold 46,000 in its 1st week (released in April)

    Michael Franti’s latest album sold 17,600 in its 1st week (released in September)

  33. I don’t think anyone said she would sell a million in a week. Not many folks do. But I know she will sell 25 or so for Christmas presents!

  34. girlygirl:
    10/10/2010 at 3:24 pm
    Just to give an idea, here are the 1st week #s for the latest albums from a couple of Crystal’s idols/mentors:

    Melissa Ethridge’s latest album sold 46,000 in its 1st week (released in April)

    Michael Franti’s latest album sold 17,600 in its 1st week (released in September)

    I consider myself something of a music fan (not one who knows everything though because that’s way too presumptious and there’s just too much to know about). I’d never even heard of Michael Franti, and I didn’t realize that Melissa Etheridge was still making albums or performing at all. Her last album sold 46,000 in the first week? What show has she recently performed on, for several months, that consistently draws 20,000,000 viewers? If she sold 46,000 and I as a music fan didn’t even know she was still releasing new albums, I wouldn’t be at ALL surprised to see Crystal easily sell 50,000 in her first week, maybe more.

    I may totally be off my rocker. No, Crystal isn’t Susan Boyle. They’re far different. However, Crystal did begin capturing worldwide recognition during a rather maligned season 9. (Eriko, where are you from again??) I’m not basing my belief that she’ll sell as much as I’m saying on similar artists, because if you go with artists similar to her, she may only sell a total of 50,000 albums in her first year. I’m basing it on the fact that she is probably arguably the most prominent female indie/singer-songwriter sort of artist to ever come from AI, and she was the one that 95% of the buzz about this season (however much there was) was about.

    And a million in a week? Even in the better days of the music industry, that was quite rare. I’m not saying 500K to a million in a week, I’m saying, basically 5-6 months.

    Yes, I’m saying I could see Crystal outselling Adam. I think Adam had a ton of buzz about his album, and then a good many people were disappointed with the direction it took, or else he would have sold far more. Critics both inside and outside of the Idol bubble have seemed to like Crystal even during Idol, and her pursuits thus far after the show and the tour seem to only be gaining her more industry cred. I won’t be surprised if her album sells almost as a reaction to the current pop trend i.e. Bieber, Ke$ha, Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, and whatever else the pop radio stations might play. Not everyone likes or wants to listen to that sort of music. Crystal’s type isn’t popular in the mainstream today, but given the exposure she received from AI, and the cred she might get with critics and some DJ’s for having been the main writer on her album as well, I see her as someone who could start a trend.

    After all, there was no British Invasion until the Beatles. (And no, Crystal is not the Beatles.)

  35. I think Mozart has a really good point about Crystal’s fanbase being unrepresented in certain circles. It’s possible that her record-buying fanbase may be as large as anyone’s coming out of season 9. After all, single sales aside, she and Lee both sold about 5k of the “Season 9 favorite performances” itunes downloads. But…girlygirl’s arguments sound pretty legit to me, especially since Kris and Adam sold 25k and 35k of their “Season 8 favorite performances”. I love season 9 to death, but I’m aiming for moderate to low expectations in hopes of being pleasantly surprised.

    I listened to the single..and with the right production and a bit of a facelift, the song could actually be an awesome single or album track, to my ears. I really love the idea of Jive saying to Crystal “honey, we may have you record a cover for your first single” and her saying back to them “okay, how about a cover from this awesome local indie artist?” :-D

  36. How much radio play did Susan Boyle get?

    Not that I’m saying Crystal will be or wants to be like her, but I think she did just fine without radio play.

    Susan Boyle sold records based on what some thought was a compelling backstory. For the most part, people bought her album for the novelty of it, which is something that she will have to deal with when she releases her next album, and realizes that the novelty has worn off. Crystal doesn’t have that going for her, but that’s fine, since that type of popularity isn’t built on a solid foundation.

  37. Mozart, (from Iceland btw) your argument makes sense, at least to someone like me, who doesn´t know well how the music market works. I agree if I understand you correctly, that Crystal is more likely to reach to people outside of AI viewers/fans. But IMO, for her and her CD to reach out and touch the musical senses of the non-AI viewer and word of mouth working for her, will depend mostly on how good her CD will be, obviously, right? If it does turn out to be very good, get great reviews, song or two which cross over, then yes, I can see the majority of buyers being non-AI viewers and sales mushrooming over an extended period. Not like I read on these boards, where the overwhelming majority of AI sales happen in the first 3 months, and hence, why all the pressure AI winners are under to release their debut asap, while they are still fresh in the AI viewers mind and “quality” is less of a priority than timing

  38. Elliegirl, I’m not sure where you got the impression that people only bought Susan Boyle’s album because of her backstory or for the novelty of it. When I purchased the copies I bought, there wasn’t a survey attached asking why I was spending money on it. And I can assure you it wasn’t for either of those reasons. I bought two for myself (1 for my car and 1 for my home) and one each for my aunt and a friend because we all loved the music after hearing it on the internet.

    As far as Crystal, I can’t wait to hear what she comes up with. In her case, I’ll buy the cd regardless because I have this strong need to support this girl. I just don’t think I’ll be disappointed.

  39. (if Adam, with all his media coverage and huge buzz and critical raves

    Adam got critical raves? I only read a couple sometime ago, and they weren´t good. One said Allison’s CD was better. And I agree, even if I don´t like hers much (didn´t buy it) still better than Adams which I thought was a huge letdown. Loved him during AI and was hoping his CD would showcase what I liked during the season. Actually, going by what some of my friends and my daughter have said, who also were routing for him bur disappointed with his CD, It wouldn´t surprise me that many of Adam´s CD sales which were bought unheard the first weeks it came out, have hardly been played but mostly collecting dust

  40. I don’t care for the song.. and I don’t understand why she needs to include a cover when she has all “original” material other wise. Maybe they’ll release this as her first single? IDK doesn’t make sense.

  41. I don’t care for the song.. and I don’t understand why she needs to include a cover when she has all “original” material other wise. Maybe they’ll release this as her first single? IDK doesn’t make sense.

    Well, she certainly does not need to. So if it ends up on the CD, it is most likely only because she likes the song and wants to. JMO of course

  42. Yes, Adams album got very good reviews. There were a few that weren’t great, but his metacritic rating which is a compilation of reviews from major sources was really good. I’m an Adam fan who loved his album and since its still on the BB200 11 months after its release, I don’t think his sales are anything to look down on.

    I’m curious Mozart, what are you basing Crystal’s worldwide recognition on? I Googled het and saw no international stories or press. I hope Crystal is very successful because I think shes megatalented, but based on tour sales and after AI sales for her, I haven’t seen signs that her sales will be outstanding. Hope you’re right though.

  43. Elliegirl, I’m not sure where you got the impression that people only bought Susan Boyle’s album because of her backstory or for the novelty of it. When I purchased the copies I bought, there wasn’t a survey attached asking why I was spending money on it.

    i probably got that impression based on the fact that that’s what Simon Cowell was marketing. He didn’t push her music, he was pushing her and her story. Even if the story isn’t the reason why people bought her music, it was the means by which people learned about her, and found out that she actually had music to buy. Which leads us back to Crystal, and my guess that she will have to rely on some other way to get people to pay attention to her and her music.

  44. I’m curious Mozart, what are you basing Crystal’s worldwide recognition on? I Googled het and saw no international stories or press. I hope Crystal is very successful because I think shes megatalented, but based on tour sales and after AI sales for her, I haven’t seen signs that her sales will be outstanding. Hope you’re right though.

    Truthfully I can’t point you to articles about her at this point – it was what I was reading during the season (particularly from about top 12 to top 6 or so). I recall seeing both viewers and articles talking about how season 9 was in general a total disappointment – except for Crystal – from places like England, Australia, Canada, Mexico, and others. I recall seeing quite a few comments on the Facebook page during the season from many other countries saying “hopefully you guys in the USA will make the right choice because this girl has captured attention all over the world” and that sort of thing. Here again, I haven’t been this into past seasons so I’m sure people say the same sorts of things every year (obviously Adam has fans worldwide, Kelly is popular overseas, I’m sure others are known outside this country too), but it doesn’t change the fact that yes, people outside of the USA were and are aware of Crystal. As is often the case, music fans outside this country may have broader tastes than within this country too so her style may be well received overseas too.

  45. I guess in 6-8 months we’ll figure out whose on the right track here.
    I will say, though, that 19 and Sony have been in this business for a while. And if there was enough buzz/evidence to suggest that Crystal had a decent chance of making a splash on the international scene and selling a platinum or even gold album (ala Adam Lambert), I don’t think a) RCA would have passed on her or b) 19M would have let her go. I am NOT trying to start a fan war here and I’m not saying everyone currently with RCA/19E/19M has a good chance to do that. I really do think Crystal has a decent shot of having the career she wants, and I think a lot of things (the delay of album and her being managed by Gina Orr’s new company) are ultimately very, very good for Crystal the musician. And it’s possible that the best case scenario discussed here:, a quiet but rabid grass-roots fanbase, positive word of mouth/glowing reviews, and a mystical filling of an empty spot in current American music may all come to pass and produce commercial success. I’m just saying the Men in Suits didn’t think it was all that likely.

  46. Since this is story time…my story is that Crystal will sell 1M records her first year. I can’t be wrong since this is my opinion! :)

  47. I don’t care for the song.. and I don’t understand why she needs to include a cover when she has all “original” material other wise. Maybe they’ll release this as her first single? IDK doesn’t make sense.

    Don’t like the song either. Her own original songs are way much better. If this is her first single, I’ll be worried.

  48. I’m just saying the Men in Suits didn’t think it was all that likely.

    If Crystal would have won, I think Crystal would have been signed with RCA. She does belong where someone like Ray LaMontagne belongs. But of course (correct me if I´m wrong) they probably wouldn´t have signed him before he made his first CD

    Just shooting from the dark here and judging from the music scene, I think the “Men in Suits” have a narrow comfort zone they don´t want to step out from. If or when there is some sort of shift in the music world, they follow but never lead. They don´t want to put effort and energy to examine things from a broader perspective.

  49. I won’t be surprised to see her sell between 500K and 1 million by Mother’s Day.

    I want whatever you’re having.

    If she sells a tenth of that, I’ll be surprised, Her sales numbers right off Idol were the worst I remember for any runner-up since Diana DeGarmo and we all know how that turned out sales-wise.

    Crystal was a distant second to Lee Dwyze (just going on post-Idol sales) and he isn’t going to hit one million. There’s nothing except wishful thinking to indicate that Crystal can do it.

    Mark it down and meet me here on Mother’s Day ;-)

  50. I just listened again and this time it grabbed be, I like it and think it has lots of potential. Kinda reminded me of the Ting Tings, if that makes any sense

  51. MrDuffin:
    Since this is story time…my story is that Crystal will sell 1M records her first year. I can’t be wrong since this is my opinion!

    lol, i like your humour. My story is that when the DJs play her song they would be inclined to discuss it rather than jump to the next one.

    I think crystal is creating buzz with the shows and appearances she has been on since AI. She did get positive feedback from those shows, both melissa and frantis fans and the show reviewers did talk abt her both pre and post-show and I dont think I heard anything negetive about it. The most negetive thing I can say said wasnt her singing or performance but rather that she came from AI and the people’s opinion about that show. That being said the buzz from those shows would not be like the “buzz” that happens for AI. I dont think they would have like fan blogs raving consistently, id like to think that they are more mature than that.

  52. Just shooting from the dark here and judging from the music scene, I think the “Men in Suits” have a narrow comfort zone they don´t want to step out from. If or when there is some sort of shift in the music world, they follow but never lead. They don´t want to put effort and energy to examine things from a broader perspective.

    Explain Elbow or AVI Buffalo or the Fleet Foxes or any number of innovative and interesting bands currently making music. In fact, what the ‘men in suits’ demand is that, if you want to be an artist, you have something to offer in terms of a new sound or original songs. Crystal doesn’t – none of the Idols do – so in lieu of that, she needs to be commercial. She’s not. That’s why they’re not interested.

  53. If she sells a tenth of that, I’ll be surprised

    You´ll be surprised if she sells more than 50-100k ?

    Since you or nobody has heard her CD, are you saying that it´s irrelevant what it will sound like and won´t affect the sales?

  54. Rubbish. Explain Elbow or AVI Buffalo or the Fleet Foxes or any number of innovative and interesting bands currently making music. In fact, what the ‘men in suits’ demand is that, if you want to be an artist, you have something to offer in terms of a new sound or original songs.

    I don’t know who Elbow is but AVI Buffalo and Fleet Foxes are both on an indie label. I don’t think the suits at the major labels get points for their success LOL

    I really like the song, but I need to hear the Crystal version before I pass judgement.

  55. I appreciate the enthusiasm for one’s favorite artist. Last fall I was POSITIVE Kris was going to have a gold album — no way he wouldn’t. Yeah, that didn’t happen. If his debut CD ever goes gold (unlikely), it’ll be a couple of years from now. So since then I’ve done a lot more research into the state of the music business and have tried to be more realistic about what to expect from people coming off Idol — something that has gotten me labeled a “hater” of various Idols at times. I don’t want these people to fail, I’d like them all to be commercially and critically successful. But I’ve decided that — for me, anyway — it’s much better to keep my expectations low, and to not be afraid to question stuff — even if that is unpopular. I’d like to be surprised , to see Lee and Crystal both outperform my expectations for them — but I can’t say that I have anything solid (buzz, previous sales, etc) to make me believe that they will.

    I wish Crystal (and Lee) much luck with their upcoming releases and hope that they will indeed surprise me in terms of the sales. I think both will put out solid albums in terms of music.

  56. Explain Elbow or AVI Buffalo or the Fleet Foxes or any number of innovative and interesting bands currently making music. In fact, what the ‘men in suits’ demand is that, if you want to be an artist, you have something to offer in terms of a new sound or original songs

    I don´t have to explain anything since I said “Just shooting from the dark” meaning speculating. But gangreen did. And again, since you haven´t heard Crystals CD, how do you know what her sound is? Also, she does have original songs.
    Do you judge how all AI contestants CD´s will be after AI, from their various theme week covers during the show? Isn´t better to judge something after listening?

  57. Sorry guys, I was also speculating with my “Men in Suits” comment, although I was indeed referring to those involved with AI contestants. And just from what I’ve seen over the last few years, I agree with Eriko, they really do appear to be risk-adverse and much more likely to support an artist that already has a defined niche in radio. Which would explain their quest to find “the next Justin Bieber” or “the next Taylor Swift”.

  58. And don’t forget, the men in suits initially labeled this as “the girls’ year” and had the likes of Lily Scott, Crystal, and several others I’ve forgotten in Hollywood. They seemed to quickly drop their idea of a girls’ year, especially the singer-songwriter types, when the girls got picked off one by one. For the real Idol-loonies out there, how many girls have made the final 2, and what have their styles been? Crystal was actually the favorite in many surveys even up until the finale by as much as 2 to 1 in some cases (of course, some less). There’s many reasons to believe that Crystal actually has a larger fanbase coming off the show than Lee does – it’s definitely possible for someone to win with less actual supporters.

    My whole point through all of this has basically boiled down to – how many female singer-songwriters have made it to the top 2 on American Idol…and for that matter, how have the girls fared in recent years? She didn’t really captivate much of the traditional AI voting crowd, so how did she get that far?

    20 million viewers, let’s say for the finale 10% of them voted, so 2 million. If even 1/2 of them supported Crystal (I’d hazard a guess it was more than 1/2), that’s 1 million – many of which I’ll bet haven’t ever voted before, and probably didn’t realize they could (or should) vote hundreds of times. (I had to convince my mom an 888 number was toll-free and it wasn’t going to cost us $0.05 per vote or something – she swore my phone bill was going to be a couple thousand dollars after a month of redialing every Tuesday night. After she found out that it was actually free, she then started doing the same, and we got my dad to too – but how many who don’t usually vote know that?)

    Those who liked Crystal this past season but aren’t traditional Idol fans won’t just forget about her now. I think someone of her sort making it as far as she did (almost winning in fact) was because of non-traditional AI voters and viewers, and for that reason I don’t think the past trends in this case will indicate future results. Of course, YMMV and all of that, and yes, she could be a flop. But I really doubt it. 500K to 1 million in sales by Mother’s Day. When her album is certified gold I’ll be back to comment on it ;-) (Oh, and what I was on when I said that earlier…coffee. Just coffee.)

  59. LOL – only problem with that is only a very small percentage of fans who vote on the AI finale end up buying the contestant’s albums. For example, 29 million people watched the S8 finale and there were nearly 100 million votes cast. But very few of those 29 million viewers — or 100 million votes — turned into in actual sales. Because otherwise Kris and Adam should have sold WAY more copies of their debut CDs than the approximate 1 million (US sales) they have combined to have sold to this point. Votes do not automatically equal sales.

    But good for you for sticking to your guns for that 500K-1 million by Mother’s day prediction :)

  60. I like the song…I think I’d like it much better with Crystal. With some changes and her vocals, I think there is some possibility for top 20, amybe top 10 on at least HAC. We’ll see. I hope Jive is game. I hope Crystal has say in what it going on her album and that they listen to her input regardless of the their motivations (making it easier for them with less cost, or because they trust her.)

  61. girlygirl – As I said, I don’t think you can really take past results to totally predict her sales. I don’t think Crystal would have made it to where she did if she wouldn’t have brought in non-typical voters. I’d say if you took a survey of those who have voted in past years, Lee probably won 75% or more of their votes. I think the vast majority of Crystal’s voters were people who hadn’t voted before. Of course, we have no way to know. But I’m figuring those who she actually inspired to vote, who hadn’t voted before, WILL buy in greater numbers than past voters.

    And I really don’t see how the lower end of my prediction is far fetched at all. I’ll get myself in trouble for guessing at this but I thought I’d seen that Adam had sold something like 750K or closing in on 1 million by now himself, and I thought Kris was around 500K (or more?). Maybe some of that factors in overseas sales as well (course I didn’t specify if I’m talking about overseas or not…I guess I wasn’t because I’m figuring she’ll at least have a gold album on her debut).

    (And to think…a while back I had said I wouldn’t be surprised if Crystal went double platinum considering she’s something different that I really think has less AI bubble buzz than people are used to, therefore they think she’s not going to sell. I’ve backed way off that just because of how people believe the music industry has dried up…)

  62. ITA Girlygirl. I prefer to be realistic about sales expectations,rather than have my hopes crushed. Lee’s album preview reviews have been great, and Crystal is a great singer and I’m sure will put out a fine album, but since when have sales in music had anything to do with quality? Not lately.

  63. Some of the huge expectations are kinda scary. I’m in the camp that also think if Adam and Kris didn’t go platinum and gold respectively then I have serious doubts Crystal can. Its not negativity, and its not. a matter of basing predictions on what’s happened in the past, its looking at how the music industry is NOW and going further and further downhill and CD sales are shrinking at a disturbing rate.. I mean even Daughtry it took like a year to go platinum with his current CD. My Walmart just recently downsized their music department due to people not buying as much and the only CDs they have stocked well are current hot artists like Bieber, Katy Perry, Eminem, etc.

    Crystal might put out a critically acclaimed CD and go on to win a Grammy, doesn’t mean she’s going to be some massive seller. In fact some of the best CDs often get overlooked. Quality doesn’t always equal sales. I also think the AI fanbase tends to be over estimated at times.

    Its been said RCA has first dibs on who they want to sign so I fully believe they would have signed Crystal if they wanted whether she won or not. They’ve signed runner-ups, they signed Adam and promote the hell out of him. But I don’t think it matters much. I can make a list of pros and cons for both Jive and RCA so I don’t think RCA is superior.

  64. I’m just interested, but what do the people who think Crystal is going to go at least Gold think Lee and Casey are going to sell? You must think that that Lee will sell more than that because theoretically he was more popular than her (in terms of votes, and post Idol factors like single sales and tour merch) and that Casey will sell somewhat comparable? They’re also both more commercially viable than her. (YMMV of course on that last part) For the record, I think Lee is the only one of the two who may have a chance at Gold, and even that is a crap shoot. Casey is a wild card for me, so I won’t even try to speculate.

    And, because I truly don’t know, if RCA wanted to, they could’ve signed both Lee and Crystal right? Have the winner and runner up ever been on the same label?

  65. i find a bit odd about this ‘supporting your idol no matter what’ notion. It almost seems like its a charity. An artist coming from AI is not the worst human being out there to lend my very best support. Even before idol these people were in regular jobs and were very much well off than a lot of other people on the streets. I guess what I am saying I will never buy an album just cos I love his/her personality or he/she was humble before, I will only buy for the music if its to my taste. I think the market will speak for itself and no matter how much “support” I give it wouldnt help me or the artist in any way i can imagine.

    Since this isnt a lee or casey’s thread I will keep my opinions ’bout them to myself though i must say that the only person i am hearing right now is crystal ,crystal, crystal. whether its AI related or her personal life or participation in charity shows she is the only one making any sort of ‘noise’ from that bunch. hmm dejavu?

  66. i find a bit odd about this ’supporting your idol no matter what’ notion. It almost seems like its a charity

    Totally agree. Even tho I was a big fan of Adam and Allison last season, I didn´t buy their CD for the simple and obvious reason, I didn´t like them. Crystal was by far my favorite during any season. But I won´t buy her CD by default, but judging from what I´ve seen and heard from her, post Idol, the odds are, her CD will end up in my collection. Judging from many posts I read, for some, it seems their “favorite” can do no wrong. Like they hear only what they want to hear. The opposite happens also, a non-favorite can do no right, music or twitter wise :)

  67. girlygirl – As I said, I don’t think you can really take past results to totally predict her sales. I don’t think Crystal would have made it to where she did if she wouldn’t have brought in non-typical voters.

    I really don’t see why she had to bring in non-typical voters. To me, she was just the *best* woman performer and musician that they’ve had in quite a while (not counting Lilly Scott, who I would have liked to see go much farther), so I voted for her this season.

    I’ve voted strongly for women in the past — mostly Melinda, Fantasia, Latoya, Jennifer H, Kimberly L, Tamyra, and Kelly C (and a bit for Allison, Brooke W and Carly S, although they weren’t consistent enough for me to really embrace them as faves). But since Mindy D, I haven’t seen a woman until Crystal whose singing, creativity, and consistency I liked enough to make her my first-choice favorite of the season. (wish Lilly Scott had lasted — she might have joined Crystal in that group, for me) So, while I am a Crystal fan, I’m definitely not a non-typical Idol voter, I don’t think, since I’ve voted for a lot of the top-finishing boys, including Adam and Cook. Thus — just don’t see why Crystal voters are necessarily non-typical.

    Plus, really, while there are some great woman non-total-typical-pop artists out there, how many of them really burn up the sales charts? I’m a big fan of a bunch of women singers into whose musical company Crystal loosely falls — love Imogen Heap, Regina Spektor, Tori Amos, and more, for example. But as far as I know, their sales figures would be considered quite disappointing for any top-finishing Idol, wouldn’t they, despite the Grammys and the critical acclaim and so on?

    I can see Crystal being a major musical success. But a sales success on the level of what people expect from pop stars? I don’t really see how she’d manage that, frankly.

  68. lucy, your post makes a lot of sense and probably holds a lot of truth, especially concerning indie womans critical and musical success vs commercial success.
    Regarding non-typical voters, I don´t think Mozart by any means is saying Crystal didn´t also get votes from the typical voter, just compared to most if not all others, more from the non-typical. The same applies to when “teen power voters” are mentioned. There are always people who jump in and say, “I´m so so old and I love XXXX” Of course every contestant will have fans from all demographics, the question is, how are the proportions spread…jmo

  69. Crystal was the best singer in the top 12 of Season 9. I think that is why she got the votes. I do think long time AI fans voted for her. I know I did although I’m not a big fan of her type of music. I thought she was the most talented and deserved to win. I don’t know if I will buy her album or not. It just depends on whether I like it or not.

    It’s really hard for me to predict how her album will do. It could take off like wild fire and do really well, or it could stall out. She has been generating buzz for herself which should help her. I do think her AI fanbase who really likes her style of music will buy her album.

    I do agree Adam did lose that portion of his AI fanbase by putting out a pop album. I personally love Adam’s album so I was good with that and I sincerely enjoy it. For me, I was happy with all of the zigs and zags on it. I actually never saw Adam as a rocker because I followed him here on MJ’s blog and his pre-idol stuff was quite varied.

    I also voted for Cook and he put out an album that pretty much represented his style on AI. And you know what, I bought it, but only listened to it a few times because I didn’t like it.

  70. I also voted for Cook and he put out an album that pretty much represented his style on AI. And you know what, I bought it, but only listened to it a few times because I didn’t like it.

    Is that how you came up with your nick “undercooked” :)

  71. I forgot to add that the method of trying to figure out what percent of the voting public on the finale will buy her CD prediction doesn’t wash with me. The season 7 finale had even more viewers, 100 million votes, more than likely Archie had even more votes than Crystal and in a slightly better CD buying climate he still hasnt sold a million albums. Something to ponder.

    As for “making noise”. Well there was an announcement last week that Lee’s first single is debuting this week on a hugely listened to radio show and his album cover came out, we know of a breast cancer benefit he did last week, there were multiple articles reviewing 4 songs from his CD as a result of a listening session RCA held for media I woudlnt say the Lee front has been silent.

  72. Gina Orr is doing a great job keeping Crystal’s name out there,having her participate in numerous charity events-and I know Crystal sincerely supports these causes. She was impressive on Anderson Cooper’s show.She just had her wedding yesterday. She has participated in some good musical events. But if she is to release an album in mid-December, it will have to be completed about a month from now. I read all the stories about Crystal because she was my second favorite this season and I have only heard mention of a couple of recording sessions.
    Lee flew to Nashville, NY,and LA all summer during the tour and he has been in the studio since the tour ended, co-writing new songs with a variety of proven hit songwriters. He was already a talented writer, but I’m sure he is learning and growing. Music reviews from the song preview have all been positive so far. I’m sure he will soon have a lot of appearances-RCA knows how to do promo.
    I hope Crystal can work fast. She has a lovely voice, but I would hate for her album to be the kind of rush job some AI albums were in the past.

  73. I’m going to keep this on topic, so I’ll just say this, with the tour ending early, Crystal will have a good (three?) months to put together her debut CD, some of which appears to be original music she wrote before idol or on the tour. Her music and advocacy appearances have, in total, taken up only a few days. I know things are rushed, but I think a few days out of 12 or so weeks shouldn’t really make a difference in quality.

    Also, Crystal has consistently demonstrated that one of her primary concerns is for the quality of her first CD. I don’t see her sacrificing quality for her causes (or ignoring her causes either, for that matter).

  74. Yeah, this looks totally for real. Good grief. That means she will have to be finished recording by Nov.7. Get moving Crystal.

  75. Someone seems to be getting impatient.

    jeff kazee
    @crystalbowersox congrats crystal! now get your &$$ back here and get back to work..

    All these different events may not in itself take that much time. But when you take traveling and preparing into account, the actual events are only a small % of the total time. On top of that, when her writing/recording sessions lose continuation and momentum with lots of “starting again” and “stopping again” there is a lot of time and energy being used, at the cost of efficiency. So I hope Crystal will now be able to put in some longer stretches of uninterrupted quality studio/writing time.

  76. jeff kazee
    @crystalbowersox congrats crystal! now get your &$$ back here and get back to work..

    I wouldnt take it too literally considering what they’ve been tweeting back and forth..probably they miss crystal alot haha :) i know shes been in the studio most of the time, right after melissa’s show she was rushing back to jersey (i think) to get back to studio. i’d like think they’d have recorded half the album by now…

  77. Is that how you came up with your nick “undercooked”

    LOL! No, I just picked it because at the time, I couldn’t think of a screen name. So…with my train of thought, I felt I must not be ready to pick a name because I couln’t find a “handle” that I felt fit me. My on-line identity was a bit, well, undefined, so I decided to become undercooked. You know, as in not done, needing more time, not ready. Now, I like to think of undercooked as meaning raw… as in frank or realistic. Yes, I am a revisionist!

    But back on topic. I hope Crystal sells a lot of albums because she is very talented. She deserves success. And I look forward to Cook’s second album. I really liked Cook on AI and I really want to like his second album.

  78. Wow, that’s some honeymoon. “Three lush, tropical weeks in a recording studio! Yee-ha!”

    I don’t imagine she minds too much though. Getting your first major-label album done has to be just a wee bit exciting. Helps that hubby is in the biz, no doubt.

    Chop chop, girlfriend! Time’s a-wasting!

  79. “Three lush, tropical weeks in a recording studio! Yee-ha!”

    luv this :)

    m just glad she did not postpone on ‘happiness’. personal happiness and career can go hand-in-hand. m just happy that crystal knows her priorities well.

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