American Idol Season 10 – First Promo! (UPDATE: 60 & 30 Sec Promos!)

Check out the very first promos for American Idol Season 10, featuring Kelly Clarkson, Lee DeWyze, Carrie Underwood, Ruben Studdard and David Cook! after the jump.

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What do you think?

I love these commercials, putting the focus on the Idol winners.  The contestants are what the show is all about, and that’s what TPTB need to do right now after so many missteps–remind us all what the show is really all about.

UPDATE 2:  Added 60 second promo #2 with slightly different scenes of David Cook, Kris Allen and Lee Dewyze

UPDATE: Added HQ 60 second and 30 second promos. The 60 second promo has ALL the Idol winners in it.

Video Sources: RyanSecrest.com, h20waterconvo,

Video after the JUMP…

60 second promo

60 second promo #2

30 second promo

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251 Comments

  1. Nice pic, MJ *wink*

    Thanks for posting the video so fast. You rock.
    I really liked this promo. Very nice. Can’t wait to see others. Hope there will be one with Kris :)

    ETA: Is this first time they had AI promos this early? I remember they would start on Thanksgiving.

  2. wow youre so quick, MJ! thank you! :)

    This made me smiiile like an idiot! Loved the scene with Lee & his fans! Now, just need one with Kris in it too.

  3. Good idea to broadcast this just after Kelly sang the national anthem, I’m not sure how that worked out but it was smart.

  4. Love the promo. Glad David Cook was in the first promo so much. I like that they showed Kelly first, then Lee next, first winner then current winner.

  5. This is early. The first one is usually done on the Thanksgiving Day NFL game that Fox covers.

    On another note, first look at what are most likely Hollywood ticket winners. I like the new audition background, the winner montage was getting a little old, even with the yearly changes of winners.

  6. yeah that’s what i’m talking about. made my saturday to see david cook looking so mighty fine. chills

  7. I read a few months ago that they were planning on starting promos in Oct because it’s the 10th season. Also that they were going to feature all the winners.

    I know they filmed more than they showed of the winners so I wonder if they are going to feature all the winners in their own commercial, or if it is going to appear on the show itself.

    THis does make me feel better about the new season, that they’re still supporting the former winners, wasn’t sure with some of the comments from producers lately.

  8. Song sounds like it’s “Unstoppable” by Kerrie Roberts
    @Kerrie_Roberts

  9. awww my cheesy heart loves this. so nice to see those winners. but we need one with all 9 winners. come on now!

  10. THis does make me feel better about the new season, that they’re still supporting the former winners, wasn’t sure with some of the comments from producers lately.

    Don’t worry. There will plenty of time for abusing former winners when S10 starts.

    I wish I could feel more nostalgic about the promos.

  11. The time always seems to go by fast during the holidays. Before we know it, it will be January and Season 10 will begin. These promos add excitement in looking forward to Season 10.

  12. Awwwww-I loved that-it makes me want to watch AI again, in spite of the 15 year old Beiber and Miley wannabes Nigel is threatening to present us with Season 10. I felt so happy seeing both David Cook and Lee within 33 seconds.

  13. Aww!!!!! I love the promos, and what a nice touch having all the winners in one promo. 10 seasons. It really is incredible when you think about it. I started watching idol the summer after 9th grade, i’ve been watching through high school, college and now after.

  14. They showed DC, KA and LD within a few seconds of eachother and the world didn’t implode! Who woulda thunk ;)

  15. Why did they have to pick the most unflattering shot of Kris Allen? His hair looks unkept – and it appears as if he is squinting when smiling.

  16. They showed DC, KA and LD within a few seconds of eachother and the world didn’t implode!

    LOL ;) haha still thinking about things being initiated?

    aww i LOVE these promos! That 60 sec one is super sweet.. :)
    Plus, we got to see a tiny bit more of Lee footage from finale night after they cut him off.

  17. I really liked the 60 sec one lots of good memories in that one!! Both were great!!

  18. Now that the 60 second promo clip has shown up, does that mean there won’t be another 30 second clip featuring the other winners speaking?

  19. I really loved the 60 second promo. Pretty impressive group when you look at them all like that! I love that they’re using the winners in this way to promo the show.

  20. aww this is so nice. brought back some memories =)

    Even tho they always usually just show the winners in these promos i always thought it would be nice to show the other success stories which include grammy noms, an oscar win and a couple of rolling stone covers etc. but i suppose that might be unfair to some of the other non winners and would upset some fanbases lol

  21. Dammit, cheesy ass commercial bringing back all of the idol love I have in my heart. Crap. Teary eyed. Remembering it was Ruben’s smile that reeled me in and then that buttery soulful voice that hooked me. Damm. Don’t wanna love this show no more…..but I do. Nice Promo, and the transformation of David Cook and Taylor Hicks, wow. Both guys looking incredibly good. Will be looking forward to another year.

  22. I swear, nobody does schmaltz better than AI. They elevate it to an art form, the manipulative bastards. I like the Five For Fighting song better, and Cookie looks so purdy in the second one especially.

    They showed DC, KA and LD within a few seconds of eachother and the world didn’t implode! Who woulda thunk

    And neither David nor Kris was performing with a guitar. Maybe we stepped into an alternate universe!

  23. Now that the 60 second promo clip has shown up, does that mean there won’t be another 30 second clip featuring the other winners speaking?

    It doesn’t mean anything at all – in relation to what will appear in the future, ComeBack2Me. IMO.

    That FOX team shot a lot of footage of all the winners in their home towns, and @GSafarian said it was for Fox, the network, not for Idol – so the ads and promo for the new season will very likely be varied and ongoing.

    ETA: And David was looking fine – loved the little half smile and few seconds of “Billie Jean” that was used. We’ll see what else we get.

  24. Even tho they always usually just show the winners in these promos i always thought it would be nice to show the other success stories which include grammy noms, an oscar win and a couple of rolling stone covers etc. but i suppose that might be unfair to some of the other non winners and would upset some fanbases lol

    Barring the Oscar (which was for acting, btw, really) Most of the winners are pretty impressive on their own. The first four are all either Grammy winners or nominees, so why muddy the water? There is an upside to winning, regardless of what people say.

  25. Aw, I love the 60 second promo with all of the winners. Nicely done. I guess it’s that time of year again!

    Now that the 60 second promo clip has shown up, does that mean there won’t be another 30 second clip featuring the other winners speaking?

    I’m guessing there’ll be another 30 second spot featuring Taylor, Jordin, Fantasia and Kris.

  26. Now that the 60 second promo clip has shown up, does that mean there won’t be another 30 second clip featuring the other winners speaking?

    Heck no, they didn’t send full crews out for nothing. They are gonna milk these guys for all it’s worth. I am glad about that.

  27. @GSafarian says:
    More to come soon!! The songs in the promos are “Unstoppable” by Kerri Roberts and “Chances” by Five for Fighting.

  28. I think there is some great irony when the video ends with the dramatic “next superstar” Looking at the 9 winners, only Kelly Clarkson and Carrie Underwood even comes close to that “star level”. Of course Chris Daughtry and Clay Aiken are the next 2 best selling Idols, but they were not winners. Neither is Academy Award winner Jennifer Hudson.

    Both Ruben Studdard and Taylor Hicks have long been dropped by their labels. Fantasia has her highs and lows. Jordin Sparks and David Cook have done just ok. And the jury is still out regarding Kris Allen and Lee Dewyze.

  29. Oh crap now the 60 second promo has me weeping!
    I love how they use part of Billie Jean (IMO that will always be Davids shining moment on the show) juxtaposed with how completely different he looks now, love Ruuubens big smile, aww Lee all teary after winning, Carrie before she became a huge superstar aww damn you AI!

    Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t there a commercial last year that focused on all the millions sold showing Daughtry at one point along with the winners, all the Grammys won and somewhere in there JHud was in there citing her Oscar? Or am I hallucinating??

  30. Even tho they always usually just show the winners in these promos i always thought it would be nice to show the other success stories which include grammy noms, an oscar win and a couple of rolling stone covers etc. but i suppose that might be unfair to some of the other non winners and would upset some fanbases lol

    That would kinda go against what they’re trying to promote. They want to find ONE American Idol, so what matters here are the winners, not what other people who didn’t win did after the show. It’s a game and the goal is to win.

    The producer who shot the footage is saying there’s much more to come.

    I can’t wait. The sooner it starts the more we’ll get :D

  31. Abbysee, i didnt mean include the succesful non winners in the winners montage, obviously theres an upside to winning LOL i voted for most of them and love them all lol i was thinking more along the lines of doing something separate where they could be like even if u don’t win, this is all you can accomplish. hell throw constantine in there for his Tony nom LOLL (ok maybe not haha) i just think it would be nice to see something like that for the 10th season but i can definitely see why they wouldnt do that for the reasons i already stated.

    oh and leome i see your point too lol

    anywho i cant wait to see the rest of the footage! should be really nice. ive been watching the show since the premiere. and omg Kelly looks so cute! <3 and i love seeing my velvet teddy bear smile haha

    I hope they do some big reunion show at the end of this season showing lots of flashbacks and not just a performance thats missing a few people like last season. that would bring back a flood of memories!

    For the first time, im actually looking forward to this coming season :)

  32. The producer who shot the footage is saying there’s much more to come. :) .

    Oh I can’t believe how excited this makes me after such a lackluster year for Idol. I loved the 60-second spot showing all the winners and how happy they look. Makes me proud of all of them. /sap

  33. Dang, this show is going to reel me back in isn’t it? *shakes fist*
    Love seeing all the old winners, they all look great. It’s a nice way to remind viewers that the show does have it’s better side, and that despite last season there have been so many success stories and accomplishments along the way. Looking forward to seeing more.

    Also, David Cook. That is all.

  34. God I love this stupid show. *tear* I don’t normally like to mix sports and sappiness, but dangit that made me cry just a little watching it on tv. They all look amazing. *Paula clap*

  35. The promos turned out so nice and well done. I’m looking forward to the others very much. It would be nice though if they could carry over some of this type of thing on the actual show. My complaint for a while has been that Idol could really capitalize on their history and audience affection for the past Idols if they highlighted them even more during the season.

  36. Even tho they always usually just show the winners in these promos i always thought it would be nice to show the other success stories which include grammy noms, an oscar win and a couple of rolling stone covers etc. but i suppose that might be unfair to some of the other non winners and would upset some fanbases lol

    If we are counting success based on magazine covers, then I think most people who have ever made the top ten are successful. They might not have gotten on the cover of Rolling Stone, but many of the finalists are living out their dreams by singing for a living, which is why most of them went on the show.

    I hope they made a 30 second spot featuring the four winners who weren’t in the original promo.

  37. My complaint for a while has been that Idol could really capitalize on their history and audience affection for the past Idols if they highlighted them even more during the season.

    I agree. They really needed this last year, when the focus of the show was taken off of the performers, and when the entire tone of the show was off, almost nasty, from the beginning. Highlighting the winners, all of them, would be a good way to show people why this show has been the top program among so many different demographic groups for years.

  38. I hope they made a 30 second spot featuring the four winners who weren’t in the original promo.

    I bet we get an individual 30 second spot for every winner.

  39. I think there is some great irony when the video ends with the dramatic “next superstar” Looking at the 9 winners, only Kelly Clarkson and Carrie Underwood even comes close to that “star level”. Of course Chris Daughtry and Clay Aiken are the next 2 best selling Idols, but they were not winners. Neither is Academy Award winner Jennifer Hudson.

    But Clay Aiken and Jennifer Hudson aren’t superstars. I wouldn’t call Chris Daughtry a superstar, either, but some people might.

    You know, people always talk about the irony of Idol not creating more superstars, but it would be impossible to create a superstar a year. Even in real life, a superstar doesn’t happen every year.

    It’s just part of Idol’s hype, but we don’t have to buy into it. Or be surprised it doesn’t happen.

    I think people who look at the show realistically know that it will introduce us to some wonderful talents that we never heard of before, and we’re lucky that it does that. But I’ve always felt that performing one song per week, for several weeks, on a TV show, is not likely to be enough turn even the best people into overnight superstars. Besides which, Idol isn’t the cultural phenomenon it once was. I don’t even know anyone who watches it any more.

    So Idol is really only the platform that gives people the opportunity to try for long term success, in my opinion.

  40. I think it’s weird that not one of these winners has a song or two suitable for background music. I mean if these American Idol winners are really so great, why do they have to go other performers?

  41. Love that 60 second promo. Glad to read that others were moved to tears. Found myself choked up while watching that ad and was shocked at my reaction, thought I’d lost it or something. But I’m normal, right? Whew! :)

    shopgirl, I agree that Kris didn’t get an equitable allocation of seconds.

  42. There was a series of tweets between @iManonica and @Gsafarian resulting in this response from @thedavidcook

    thedavidcook David Cook
    “@GSafarian: Total class act!! @iManonica: @GSafarian @thedavidcook is awesome to work w/, yeah?” / awww, shucks. :)

  43. I think it’s weird that not one of these winners has a song or two suitable for background music. I mean if these American Idol winners are really so great, why do they have to go other performers?

    Because whoever’s song was chosen people would pitch a fit. It would be in poor taste in my opinion too to have a song from one winner when you are promoting them all. They made the right decision to use outside music.

  44. The problem with singling out only some non-winners is that everyone has their own definition regarding what a success truly is. By focusing just on the winners at least it gives them all that one thing in common.

    I don’t know how likely it is but I so would love Lee to have an AI commercial like David had 2 years ago that played LO. That was truly awesome. Carrie had one too but it wasn’t like a music video.

  45. You know, people always talk about the irony of Idol not creating more superstars, but it would be impossible to create a superstar a year. Even in real life, a superstar doesn’t happen every year.

    Exactly. In the past few years, there have been ‘only’ three superstars to emerge from music: Lady Gaga, Taylor Swift, and Justin Beiber. But there are many stars, making music and pursuing good careers. A lot of Idols are in the same position. If even they’re not superstars, I doubt any of the nine winners would give back what they have. I assume they’re pretty happy.

  46. Why did they have to pick the most unflattering shot of Kris Allen? His hair looks unkept – and it appears as if he is squinting when smiling.

    No worries, Kris just has small eyes & spikey hair. You really couldn’t see much of his hair style anyway.

  47. Idol could really capitalize on their history and audience affection for the past Idols if they highlighted them even more during the season.

    Completely agree. Hopefully we’ll see a lot of them back performing on the show this year. Lee, David, Carrie and Fantasia almost certainly given they’ll all have records they’re promoting, maybe Kelly? Not sure when her next record might be out.

  48. I think it’s weird that not one of these winners has a song or two suitable for background music.

    *chuckle* Suzanne, if Nigel was in charge of these, he likely would have used one, singled out one or two past winners – as you say – there are songs….and Nigel has already shown he’s oblivious to pissing off fan bases with injudicious remarks.

    Fortunately, a marketing team with a little more acumen into the dynamics of attracting ‘every’ past fan base back to watch their biggest network show picked out the soundtracks. They’re leaning on Nostalgia, and OMG Tenth Season – not looking to stir up old competitions.

    They’ll leave that for the new contestants.

    IMO. Of Course.

  49. I don’t get the “Welcome home” thing. It’s not like Idol tried out another network and returned to Fox.

    I liked one of the songs but the promos themselves left me empty. I guess the magic really is gone.

  50. Check out this response to a question regarding where the footage will be used.

    #GSafarian Golareh Safarian

    Maybe :) @ainow: @GSafarian the footage will just be used for promos though, right?

  51. Is it January yet??? Oh that really made me miss the show! The first season I really watched was the year Fantasia won. I was rooting for her from her audition. *sniff* And Carrie has really won me over since her win. *sniff* Oh and all the others. *sniff* And DAVID COOK… yes, yes, yes!!

  52. But Clay Aiken and Jennifer Hudson aren’t superstars. I wouldn’t call Chris Daughtry a superstar, either, but some people might.

    Agree, but Clay Aiken, Jennifer Hudson, Chris Daughtry have been more successful than AI Winners Ruben Studdard, Fantasia, Taylor Hicks, Jordin Sparks, David Cook, Kris, Allen, Lee Dewyze.

  53. wordnerdarchie, I saw David’s response to GSafarian – cute. He must have been checking Twitter after the game, and there are all the responses to the new photo, and the buzz about these videos all over the timeline.

    Keeping it focused on the contestants, past and future, is a good idea. Hope they stick to it.

  54. Maybe for you. Not for me.

    Me either. As a matter of fact, I’ve been putting idol stuff on my Facebook page. There is a reason this show has been so popular, for so long, and they showed us in those promos. It’s not about the judges, it’s about Kelly, Ruben, Fantasia, etc, etc. For hopes of finding someone to rally after, and support. I am looking forward to this season.

  55. I don’t get the “Welcome home” thing. It’s not like Idol tried out another network and returned to Fox.

    The welcome home is to the fans. In other words, these are your Idols, America. They all came from small towns just like you. You made this happen. This is your show. Okay, so we might have annoyed you with some ill advised changes there for a bit. But let’s let bygones be bygones. Come on home to Uncle Idol, you know you want to, and we’ll go make some more dreams come true.

    It’s evil, really. I love it.

  56. Agree, but Clay Aiken, Jennifer Hudson, Chris Daughtry have been more successful than AI Winners Ruben Studdard, Fantasia, Taylor Hicks, Jordin Sparks, David Cook, Kris, Allen, Lee Dewyze.

    Sweetie, if you remove Clay from that, I might agree. Clay had most of his fame in the two years post idol. Since then get can’t outsell most of those people you named as less successful. Anyway you are so missing the point of the commercial. No numbers will ever take away that Ruben is the winner of American Idol season two. Fantasia won season three, and Taylor won season 5. That is etched in stone.

  57. Kelly looks gorgeous! I also really loved the color saturation they used for filming the spots – so pretty!

    Aww, I’m all nostalgic. I decided to watch this show the second I saw the blurb in TV guide that summer. 10 years later, and I still love it even when it isn’t perfect. It is fun to remember and appreciate all the different winners and see how far they have come:)

    ETA. lol, I just noticed in the 60 second spot that you hear a judge speak, and it is Randy, of course! haha

  58. It’s evil, really. I love it.

    It evil (genius) for sure. I know they are manipulating me, pulling heart strings, because really in those short promos they sorta just summed up what this show is about, and what gets us sucked in, more than any show in the past for several seasons. It’s just amazing.

  59. Anyway you are so missing the point of the commercial. No numbers will ever take away that Ruben is the winner of American Idol season two. Fantasia won season three, and Taylor won season 5. That is etched in stone.

    If you go back to my original post, I was making the point that the video ends with a dramatic “the next superstar”. As I said, of all the 9 winners, only Kelly Clarkson and Carrie Underwood even come close to that. For the record, Clay Aiken is considered one of the Top 4 selling Idols of all time – behind Kelly Clarkson, Carrie Underwood, Chris Daughtry. And even though Jennifer Hudson finished 6th on Idol, she became an Academy Award winning actress.

  60. Come on home to Uncle Idol, you know you want to, and we’ll go make some more dreams come true.

    It’s evil, really. I love it.

    ;) Sunchick, IMO, you nailed it. There’s even that subliminal “They never forgot where they came from” – not just Anytown, USA – but here they are making a commercial for American Idol – where they also came from.

    Clever apologia, with a hidden hook. *snerk*

    IMO. Of Course.

  61. alterego7, don’t let the usual hyperbole get to you – what are they gonna say – ‘the next fair to middling chance of long term success’? See who beats the odds in today’s music market? That’s not the dream they are selling. May as well brace yourself for lots more of the same – we are coming up on “Best Season Evah!! Eleventy!!” territory.

    You think FOX is bad, wait till you hear more from Nigel and Ryan and the judges! *snerk*

  62. Agree, but Clay Aiken, Jennifer Hudson, Chris Daughtry have been more successful than AI Winners Ruben Studdard, Fantasia, Taylor Hicks, Jordin Sparks, David Cook, Kris, Allen, Lee Dewyze.

    Lee DeWyze hasn’t even released an album yet. I don’t know how “successful” some of these people are but some of them are just getting started, so come back in five years and we’ll talk. :)

  63. You all can get as sappy as you want. I’m getting straight to the pimping. They showed 4 auditions and they were 3 girls and 1 guy and no guitars in sight in the 60 second one and 2 out of the same 3 girls and the same guy in the 30 second one. They want a girl, obvs. Do we have IDs on the auditioners yet???? ;)

    I enjoyed the promos too. I love seeing those Idols smile! I like hearing the Idols says something but IMHO if you’re going to have 5 idols in a promo you should have all 9. Find a way to get em all into 30 seconds or let your 30 second promos have 3 Idols per or just 1 per. I like the 60 second one because it’s got everybody.

  64. alterego7, don’t let the usual hyperbole get to you – what are they gonna say – ‘the next fair to middling chance of long term success’?

    LOL, yeah, it *is* marketing after all – and Idol still wants you to think it’s all about creating superstars. For me? The magic is still there and these promos are just awesome. Well, and David Cook on my TV is always good. But yes, Idol still manages to reel me in. And why wouldn’t it? I have so much music on my iPod from the Idols :) and I’ve loved finding someone to root for every season (and did I mention David Cook? Idol gave me David Cook, dammit!).

  65. awww…I love the promos. I love my hometown boys Taylor and Ruben, the girls Kelly, Carrie, Jordin and Fantasia and especially my WGWG Cookie, Kris and Lee. They all look great!

    I am gonna watch season 10 but I am still not really happy about the age limit being lowered. Hopefully only 2 or 3 make the top 10 again.

  66. Oh, and that little sideways Cook smile. Jeez louise.

    But let’s let bygones be bygones. Come on home to Uncle Idol, you know you want to, and we’ll go make some more dreams come true.

    It’s evil, really. I love it.

    Yes, indeed, it’s evil – and it’s fabulous :)

  67. alterego7:
    10/30/2010 at 9:24 pm
    I think there is some great irony when the video ends with the dramatic “next superstar” Looking at the 9 winners, only Kelly Clarkson and Carrie Underwood even comes close to that “star level”. Of course Chris Daughtry and Clay Aiken are the next 2 best selling Idols, but they were not winners.

    I think that talking about “best selling Idols” in an era of dramatically dropping sales means nothing. You have to look at how the Idols performed relative to their competition in their respective Billboard sales year. And with the exception of Carrie, Daughtry and Kelly (for her sophomore album only, not her debut), none of the other Idol winners or runners up sold in the Top 10 of their respective Billboard years — and certainly not Clay. So I would say the only ones approaching superstar status are Kelly, Carrie and Chris. Jennifer Hudson is not a superstar though she has won a Grammy and an Oscar. She’s respected but her sales are hardly superstar level — even within her genre.

  68. It sure tugs the heartstrings. These are the winners and no one can take that away from them. David and Lee look so so good. :)

    ETA: Hey, I just realised Ruben and Taylor are from the same town.

  69. Hell, I am feeling nostalgic, it’s close to Thanksgiving and all that jazz. I am not hardly worrying about who is a superstar and who isn’t and who is gonna be singer and where in 5 years. Really I don’t care. I know that all of my favorites are singing and thriving now. Kelly just sang at the World Series in her home state? Awesome. Ruben was just in Japan and Manila! Seriously! Fantasia is still selling real live cds, when so many others can’t, and has her own show on cable. Who’da thunk it. Of these only one may be a superstar, but every megastar has to have a few smaller stars in it’s orbit. Does that diminish the fact that this show makes big stars and lesser stars? I really don’t get the argument.

  70. It’s evil, really. I love it.

    I couldn’t have said it better myself.

    It was all I talked about, all I thought, about I’ve been obsessed with it ever since I was 5, back in season 2. I can’t believe it’s been 8 years….

  71. I liked the 60 sec. one better
    Suzanne,
    personally I like it better that they use other songs-otherwise too much focus on winners they like JMO

    haha i actually (barely) saw a glimpse of adam’s face …and it made me happy. Not that I actually care who won S8 anymore (im not THAT pathethic), it’s still fun to refer to it as the end of the world :p

  72. You take the show for what it is…a reality TV show. A singing competition – no more and no less. I was at one time very taken with AI, but not anymore. The show DOES NOT make ordinary people into superstars and this is where the voting and manipulation come in. It’s TV, it’s entertainment – PERIOD.

    I also feel that many people who were devoted to AI, feel the same way I do. They have lost their devotion to the show. Too many changes and AI does not support it’s winners.

  73. Agree, but Clay Aiken, Jennifer Hudson, Chris Daughtry have been more successful than AI Winners Ruben Studdard, Fantasia, Taylor Hicks, Jordin Sparks, David Cook, Kris, Allen, Lee Dewyze.

    To be factually accurate, Jennifer Hudson hasn’t had more success in her music career than Jordin or Fantasia. But, none of that has anything to do with the promo. Each of those nine people did something during their seasons to inspire people to vote for them, a lot. As someone said, no amount of fanwanking can take away what they accomplished, or how they made people feel.

  74. It sure tugs the hardstrings. These are the winners and no one can take that away from them

    I agree. Whether they ended up as superstars or not, you can’t take away their wins. For whatever reason, America connected with these 9 people and chose to change their lives forever.

  75. Too many changes and AI does not support it’s winners.

    Yes they do. That promo has every idol winner. Every idol through Kris has been back on the show, and I’m sure Lee will too. For the life of me I will never understand the “idol did so and so wrong” phenomenon.

  76. NO, they do NOT support their winners. Taylor Hicks has been constantly badmouthed by them in the past!

    This is the last season of Idol. I think it will bomb badly in the ratings! Nobody will watch wihout Simon Cowell. You’ll see!

  77. LOVED THE PROMO! Thanks mj! I love this blog. Mj you are getting to be quite the celebrity! :-)

    Awww, I am homesick!! I can’t wait and I won’t miss Simon one bit. I will watch The X Factor but it isn’t the same, AI is familiar to us. It is like getting a visit from a favorite Aunt and Uncle every January. From what I have seen of the X, I don’t like all the dancing and the frills. It is less personal. How much fun it is to see the idols BEFORE all the lights come on. Sorta like, I knew you when…:-)

    I am so happy Nigel is back. He can be arrogant but I like him alot and I want the ratings to sky rocket this year so Simon’s ego can come down a notch. I know Simon wants AI to fail without him, I dont care what he says. I would also love to see Nigel be the one to bring AI to where it once was.

    This is going to be a good year. They know they have one chance before The X Factor starts. Ryan will change back to his fun self without Simon there. Randy will bring up his game since he won’t feel like the underdog anymore and Jennifer (who I wasn’t thrilled with) won me over. And, Steven I am waiting for that wackadoodle train to come along. How fun will that be! He won’t be mean like Simon either. Nigel will again be in the audience like a proud Papa. With these kids being mentored and staying in their genres, we are not going to see the nerves we saw last year. I was waiting for someone to run off stage in panic during Season 9. They were so ill prepared and I felt so sorry for them. What a mess Season 9 was, not the contestants fault, just lousy producing.

    I am ready to see what happens. I just wish they would get rid of the stupid auditions and fill it with the entire audition of EVERYONE that went to Hollywood and then film the Hollywood entire auditions also. I want everyone to start on an even playing field…for once!!

    I also don’t like the age limit dropped to 15 either. They want to bring in an even younger audience (yuck, mass texting).

    FYI….Aerosmith Biography (from 2009) is on A&E at 8PM EST Sunday night 10/31. I have the DVR set, might be interesting to go down memory lane with the band. I am sure there are repeats along the way too, there usually is….:-)

    Whew, no more promos mj, they make me excitable! :-O The funny thing is, AI is a singing show and I am tone deaf, go figure!! :-/ Nothing like watching AI in closed captioning!! HA! Now, that is a fan!! :-) Well I can hear a little tiny bit, but not much! :-(

  78. Yes they do. That promo has every idol winner. Every idol through Kris has been back on the show, and I’m sure Lee will too. For the life of me I will never understand the “idol did so and so wrong” phenomenon.

    I am an old Ruben stan from way back, and I never fault idol for what did or did not happen after he won. I think they have done well by him. He got to do the boot song, he has been on so many times. He is an idol in good standing. So he hasn’t set the world on fire, but I also believe that he will still be singing his heart out for audiences all over the world the same as he is now. Maybe he was always meant to be a journeyman artist from the start. All I know is that he still has the same mojo that made American Idol audiences fall for him. When I read about his falling off the map I giggle to myself because I know it’s just a falsehood. I hear him on the radio and I just watched a video of him singing to a bajillion people in Manila. They were chanting Ruuuuuben just like idol audiences years ago…..

    That being said, I still think Taylor got a bit of the shaft, lol. Maybe it was all of his own making and the story will eventually be told, but certainly hiding his face behind a potted plant? A serious FU!

  79. Yay, for 2 seconds of Kris Allen – reminds me of his AI audition.

    I’m going to rely on East Coast people to tell us West Coasters when
    these promo appears on FOX. I’ll make sure that I see the tweets just to catch Kris promo, so that I can DVR it here.

    I’m happy that all the winners get the promos.

  80. Jennifer Hudson may not be a superstar, but neither are Jordin Sparks and Fantasia. And JH’s name usually comes up when they talk about Idol success, considering that she finished in 6th place on AI. Granted her success is more from the movies. But nothing can ever change the fact that she won an Academy Award.

    No one is claiming that JH is an A-list actress. But if it comes to casting for a major Hollywood movie, her name will always rank before any of the 9 AI winners. She just finished filming the big screen bio pic of Winnie Mandela. I highly doubt anyone in Hollywood was seriously considering Jordin Sparks or Fantasia for the role.

  81. No one is claiming that JH is an A-list actress. But if it comes to casting for a major Hollywood movie, her name will always rank before any of the 9 AI winners. She just finished filming the bio pic of Winnie Mandela. I doubt anyone in Hollywood was seriously considering Jordin Sparks or Fantasia for the role.

    Jennifer had a bit part in Sex & The City, a role in a film that went straight to video, and now the biopic, so I think it is too soon to label her a movie star, or even a “go to actress”. But, all of that s beside the point of the commercial, and what the feelings that they are trying to stir up in people.

    I’m proud of all of the winners, and everybody else who was brave enough to come on the show.

  82. gosh, those were really touching vids. brought tears to my eyes. thanks for posting, mj! just brought a lot of memories back, especially the most recent with lee. *sigh* i’ve been a fan since the first season & seeing these winners go through their respective journeys and successes just make me feel proud of all of them. on a shallow note, i appreciated it when the cam zoomed in on lee’s baby blues, cute! lol!

    They showed DC, KA and LD within a few seconds of eachother and the world didn’t implode! Who woulda thunk ;)

    lol! had to see if my head was still intact after that.. that part definitely needed several re-watching ;)

  83. Suzanne
    I think it’s weird that not one of these winners has a song or two suitable for background music. I mean if these American Idol winners are really so great, why do they have to go other performers?

    Shit, can you imagine the fanwarring if they picked ONE song by ONE Idol? It would be jihad :)

  84. sunchick
    The welcome home is to the fans. In other words, these are your Idols, America. They all came from small towns just like you. You made this happen. This is your show. Okay, so we might have annoyed you with some ill advised changes there for a bit. But let’s let bygones be bygones. Come on home to Uncle Idol, you know you want to, and we’ll go make some more dreams come true.

    It’s evil, really. I love it.

    Brilliant post. This is, sadly, how I feel, too :)

  85. Shit, can you imagine the fanwarring if they picked ONE song by ONE Idol? It would be jihad

    Haha, there would be no one left here to post … we would all be kicked out, lol.

    Of course I wouldn’t mind hearing my guy’s song “Heroes” as the camera pans across all of the idols that have made it through each week.

    “I’m not going to come down
    Down off of these clouds
    All these heroes come and go
    (You’re still standing)
    You teach me to rise up
    To open my eyes up
    All these Heroes come and go
    (You’re still standing)”

    Or the iconic “Life on the Moon”. ;)

    But seriously, I think the way they’re doing it is perfect. Using songs by non-idol artists is the wiser way to go.

  86. I agree. Whether they ended up as superstars or not, you can’t take away their wins. For whatever reason, America connected with these 9 people and chose to change their lives forever.

    I beg to differ…. America didn’t have the final say on any of these folks. People watching AI had an opinion. Just saying!

    P.S. I’ve got lots of relatives who are Americans and they don’t even watch this show. I do though! :)

  87. This is the last season of Idol. I think it will bomb badly in the ratings! Nobody will watch wihout Simon Cowell. You’ll see!

    I agree! You are brave enough to say it!

  88. I’m actually excited that Steven Tyler is replacing Simon. Finally a true artist as a judge. It means less pop and diva music, just pure rock, indie, folk, country, and blues music. Can’t wait for the new season.

    But Jennifer Lopez? Ugh.

  89. I beg to differ…. America didn’t have the final say on any of these folks. People watching AI had an opinion. Just saying!

    Even not watching and not voting is a America’s say. Just saying.

  90. I’m actually excited that Steven Tyler is replacing Simon. Finally a true artist as a judge. It means less pop and diva music, just pure rock, indie, folk, country, and blues music.

    Steven Tyler is all of that?????

  91. Aww shucks, that is awesome. :)

    There was a series of tweets between @iManonica and @Gsafarian resulting in this response from @thedavidcook

    thedavidcook David Cook
    “@GSafarian: Total class act!! @iManonica: @GSafarian @thedavidcook is awesome to work w/, yeah?” / awww, shucks. :)

  92. “Last few years, especially last year, Simon didn’t even care to be there. So how is it any different this year without him? NONE!”

    It wasn’t just Simon. It was Simon and Paula. How easily people dismiss Paula Abdul. But, without Paula ratings plummeted.

  93. Even not watching and not voting is a America’s say. Just saying.

    That makes sense!

  94. It wasn’t just Simon. It was Simon and Paula. How easily people dismiss Paula Abdul. But, without Paula ratings plummeted.

    I loved Paula and hated last season without her. It will be so dismal
    without the two of them. :(

  95. Elliegrll:
    10/30/2010 at 9:44 pm
    My complaint for a while has been that Idol could really capitalize on their history and audience affection for the past Idols if they highlighted them even more during the season.

    I agree. They really needed this last year, when the focus of the show was taken off of the performers, and when the entire tone of the show was off, almost nasty, from the beginning. Highlighting the winners, all of them, would be a good way to show people why this show has been the top program among so many different demographic groups for years.

    I totally agree with you. I loved the promo and I like the way it is looking like Idol might be BACCKKKKKKK! Back to 3 judges, no mentors persay like the last few seasons. Taking away the instruments was a fantastic idea. That way noone can hide behind it. Last season was by far the most boring and too many guitar players. I want to see them move about the stage like Adam did. Like Chris Daughtry did. Like Taylor Hicks did. Can’t wait for this season to start. Feel sorry for Paula Abdul, her dance show is opposite of Idol, sorry but she won’t win this war! I do miss her on Idol though and wished she had not been treated like she had by Idol. Saying her show won’t win this war is in no regards a diss on Paula. I would give her show a look if it were not on at the same time as Idol. All I am saying….

  96. How easily people dismiss Paula Abdul. But, without Paula ratings plummeted.

    Except for the fact that they didn’t and Idol remained the number #1 rated series when she was off the show, and any decline in ratings is matched by the general decline in network television ratings.

    I agree! You are brave enough to say it!

    So does that mean you won’t be watching next season? : )

  97. Except for the fact that they didn’t and Idol remained the number #1 rated series both seasons she was off the show, and any decline in ratings is matched by the general decline in network television ratings.

    What you posted is not correct. Last season of Idol with Ellen and Kara and no Paula, DWTS beat AI in the ratings, as well as the Winter Olympics.

  98. What you posted is not correct. Last season of Idol with Ellen and Kara and no Paula, DWTS beat AI in the ratings, as well as the Winter Olympic.

    No, what I wrote is correct. DWTS and the Winter Olympics beat idol on a few occasions, but overall for the season it was still the #1 ranked show of the year.

  99. deserving or not, superstar or not, they still won and that’s something that others can never get…

    and idol going down this season? i guess not.
    i’m not american but i think it is already part of american culture (i also read it somewhere), even with declining ratings, still number 1…

  100. Jennifer Lopez is no where near as liked as Paula Abdul and no where near as talented as Paula. First thing that comes to my mind about Jennifer Lopez is diva. I see a total disaster because she will still be compared to Paula and she won’t measure up.

    Steven Tyler is a washed-up rock star. How in the world is he relevant to today’s music?

    I think the general public will tune in for the curiosity factor, but will quickly tune out.

  101. Steven Tyler is all of that?????

    No, but usually an artist like him can recognize true music from commercial ones. With Simon, it’s all about being current and commercial.

  102. No, what I wrote is correct. DWTS and the Winter Olympics beat idol on a few occasions, but overall for the season it was still the #1 ranked show of the year.

    Whether you like it or not, Idol’s ratings still went down drastically. No where near to what it used be. Just the fact that it got beat proves my point.

  103. Whether you like it or not, Idol’s ratings still went down drastically. No where near to what it used be. Just the fact that it got beat proves my point.

    No, actually they didn’t go down drastically. Ratings have been declining steadily since season 5, as have the ratings across the board on network television. Paula’s absence has nothing to do with it.

  104. Taking away the instruments was a fantastic idea.

    Is there a cite for that anywhere, AmericanIdol8? All I have seen is Nigel and Ken Warwick’s crocodile tears about how they hope another guitar player doesn’t win Idol – and yearning for Diva voices, which always made me smirk to read, since the whole of Season 9 was ‘packed’ with contestants of both sexes with guitars, and mostly not very Diva voices – and the producers are the ones who selected them for America to chose from! I guess pianos are OK?

    Maybe they won’t chose any musicians for the cast this year – we’ll be finding out – but I didn’t see in the outline of the new procedures, or in any announcements, that instruments were now being banned. Where did I miss that, please?

  105. Last season of Idol. Nobody cares about Idol anymore and there’s completely no buzz. I stand by my words.

  106. btw, i love other than cookie, i love seeing kelly clarkson on those promos, i was like “gurl, you’re the first winner and it’s almost a decade already”

    i still remember the “a moment like this” video

  107. Last season of Idol. Nobody cares about Idol anymore and there’s completely no buzz.

    Yeah, nobody cares. That is why it was the number one show of the whole year. What you are saying has been said since season 1. The prediction of last season ever!!11!! never seems to pan out though..

  108. Last season of Idol. Nobody cares about Idol anymore and there’s completely no buzz. I stand by my words.

    Fox/19 isn’t walking away from such a moneymaker/cash cow even if it does fall to #2 or #5 or #10 in the ratings. Even if it ‘plummets’, Fox/19 will milk this cow for as long as it can limp along. I don’t remember exact details but I read an article recently about how much Fox charges per 20 to 30 second commercial shown on Idol. It was outrageous. And then there’s the money from Ford and Coca Cola for the product placements. Buzz may not be what it once was (height was immediately post Season 5) and may in fact go down drastically as you predict, summertime blues, but I really doubt it’s going to be a cellar dweller in ratings. Even Heroes (which sucked for several seasons) and was never the blockbuster that Idol was took some time sliding down the ratings ladder from its original height (first two seasons).

  109. You’ll see when I’m right. Last season, worst season ever. People are DONE with the show. TV shows don’t last forever. THEY ALL END!

    AI they pretend they are making superstars…it’s all lies. People caught on.

  110. Whether you like it or not, Idol’s ratings still went down drastically. No where near to what it used be. Just the fact that it got beat proves my point.

    The ratings for the early audition episodes and the top 24 were on par with Season 8, it wasn’t until we got into the top ten that the started to decrease drastically. But even with that drastic decrease it still finished the season as the top ranked show with total viewers, and among the younger demo that advertisers love.

    http://www.deadline.com/2010/05/full-series-rankings-for-the-2009-10-broadcast-season/

    IMHO, this shows that people still care about the show, but they didn’t care for some of the crap that went on last season. Whether or not ths season rebounds depends on whether or not the producers can find people who care about putting on a good show every week, and if the producers put the spotlight back on the contestants.

    BTW, AI averaged over 23 million viewers last season, no other show averaged 20 million.

  111. OK, Summertime blues. It’s your opinion that this is the last season of Idol. And you want to be on record as saying so. Got it. Prediction duly noted.

    “Nobody cares”? (well, except for the people obviously posting here that they do) – and “there’s no Buzz”? Way to make Nigel cry, he’s been working so hard to create it- all those stories in all those press outlets that somebody chose to print and post – and Fox’s bean counters must regret all the money spent on those new commercials…not to mention the poor advertisers who already bought their ad time at even higher rates than last year. (story in the archives )

    But those are both absolute statements with no proof and no basis in fact. Assumptions from a crystal ball, if you will.

    When TPTB start losing big money on Idol, their ad rates fall off, and their weekly viewer numbers go into the toilet and get flushed consistently, then your prediction may come true – I guess you’ll have to wait and see with the rest of us for that.

  112. Just another perspective,I never watched AI except for one season & these commercials aren’t making me want to tune in by advertising alot of people I don’t even recognize. Now if they had Daughtry & Jennifer Hudson or the new judges maybe. Whatever. Maybe they’re just trying to regain their old audience. :)

  113. AI they pretend they are making superstars…it’s all lies. People caught on.

    I don’t think the average viewer thinks that they are watching a search for the next superstar. Given AI’s demographics, everybody would have their own belief of who is a superstar. I think people get caught up in the idea that they are a part of seeing these people starting their careers, and going after their dreams. That’s what makes it special, and why some people get so (overly) attached to these contestants.

    It’s that feeling of being there from the beginning that they are trying to highlight with these commercials, since that’s why people tune in every week. That feeling is this shows storyline, an example of that is how often viewers will back the contestant who grows the most over the course of the season.

  114. The show doesn’t produce normal fans. It produces and maybe even encourages, the over-invested, rabid fan. Please, they should just end this madness, so people can get back to having a normal life.

  115. Watching this promo just reminds me why I love this damn show so much. Obviously the show will be different this season but no matter what I will still watch, because I don’t care about the judges. I care about the contestants and how it changes their lives forever. Some are more successful than others but all of them still got something out of it. Watching Cook and Kris and especially seeing Lee’s winning moment on there even made me tear up a bit. God I love this show.

  116. The show doesn’t produce normal fans. It produces and maybe even encourages, the over-invested, rabid fan. Please, they should just end this madness, so people can get back to having a normal life.

    Considering that nobody has ever sold 30 to 23 million copies of their debut cd, I’d say that this isn’t true. Some people are overly invested, but that is a small minority. The majority of people don’t obsess about the show on message boards, buy these people’s music once the show is over, or follow their careers. Most people are fans of the show, the feelings that it stirs up in them, and what they think the show means in terms of helping people launch their careers.

  117. Wow, I’ve been out of the loop for a few days. I like the promos!! I have only skimmed a few comments, but agree that AI could really capitalize on using their past winners. They need to embrace them, imo.

    Feel sorry for Paula Abdul, her dance show is opposite of Idol, sorry but she won’t win this war! I do miss her on Idol though and wished she had not been treated like she had by Idol. Saying her show won’t win this war is in no regards a diss on Paula. I would give her show a look if it were not on at the same time as Idol. All I am saying….

    If Paula would have stuck it out, there is a real possibility that she could be the head judge right now. Of course there is no way of knowing this, but hey anything is possible…

  118. they should just end this madness, so people can get back to having a normal life.

    Most people’s “Normal Life” includes some forms of electronic entertainment – that’s what Idol is to many, they stay tuned in if it entertains them….although the most rabid fans I have ever seen have been for sports teams of all sorts, I don’t believe I have seen advocacy to stop that “madness”….it entertains people, and it generates money, in all sorts of ways.

    However, if American Idol is interfering with one’s normal life, it’s not necessary to wait for them to close the doors – one could just walk away.

    IMO. Of Course.

  119. Personally, I hope the show goes on. Not just because its entertainment for me but its a great avenue for struggling artist to get their names out there. Whether to a greater or lesser extent, it remains a great starting point for unknown talented people to build their carrer in music and achieve their dreams. And the coverage is world wide.

    Thank goodness for the show or I’ll never know DC or LD and get to enjoy their music. So, I’ll be watching S10.

  120. Keel:
    I think that talking about “best selling Idols” in an era of dramatically dropping sales means nothing. You have to look at how the Idols performed relative to their competition in their respective Billboard sales year. And with the exception of Carrie, Daughtry and Kelly (for her sophomore album only, not her debut), none of the other Idol winners or runners up sold in the Top 10 of their respective Billboard years — and certainly not Clay. So I would say the only ones approaching superstar status are Kelly, Carrie and Chris. Jennifer Hudson is not a superstar though she has won a Grammy and an Oscar. She’s respected but her sales are hardly superstar level — even within her genre.

    Other than Carrie, Daughtry and Kelly the only one that was even close to the top ten albums for their year was David Cook whose album was #13 last year in the Billboard year end chart. Other idols, including Kelly’s first album were at least in the 20s or above.

    So, really, if you look at the year end chart rankings of the debut albums for idol winners, Carrie Underwood was first, and David Cook is second at #13. And including non winners, Daugtry and Carrie would be first and second, with David Cook third. And even if you look at subsequent albums, still the only ones that have made the top 10 have been Carrie, and Kelly, since we don’t know how well Daughtry’s will do on the year end countdowns.

    I agree that using the year end charts are a good way to account for the differences in record sales from year to year. Selling 1.5 million albums is enough to be in the top ten albums for a year for the past couple of years, but wasn’t even enough to make the top 20 8 or 9 years ago.

  121. jennyl:
    10/31/2010 at 3:41 am
    Personally, I hope the show goes on. Not just because its entertainment for me but its a great avenue for struggling artist to get their names out there. Whether to a greater or lesser extent, it remains a great starting point for unknown talented people to build their carrer in music and achieve their dreams. And the coverage is world wide.

    Thank goodness for the show or I’ll never know DC or LD and get to enjoy their music. So, I’ll be watching S10.

    I agree with this, and I like the show for the same reason. It has really become a talent showcase for the most part, especially for those that are well defined as artists.

    I hope the show continues as well. Even if I don’t find someone to be a fan of this year, the show is still a terrific promotion for previous winners that I have liked. Especially appearing in a commercial during something with such a big audience as the World Series. It is good for the show to have the previous winners appear as well as for their individual promotion. And it is also terrific that former contestants can perform on the results shows, also.

  122. Hmm, both commercials left me cold, more or less. It was nice to see Kelly, Carrie, Jordin and even Fantasia, but male winners? Ehh. I mean, Cook is okay, the others… not so much. I think the best years of Idol, in terms of talent, are long gone. No surprise why Simon lost interest.

  123. So far, the promos are great. They focus on how the show has made dreams come true and the promos remind people of how successful the show has been.

    I swear, nobody does schmaltz better than AI. They elevate it to an art form, the manipulative bastards.

    So true. AI is the best at tugging at people’s heartstrings.

    It’s evil, really. I love it.

    I love it too, but it’s really just excellent marketing.

    jennyl:
    10/31/2010 at 3:41 am
    Personally, I hope the show goes on. Not just because its entertainment for me but its a great avenue for struggling artist to get their names out there. Whether to a greater or lesser extent, it remains a great starting point for unknown talented people to build their carrer in music and achieve their dreams. And the coverage is world wide.

    I agree. For all of its flaws, AI is still an amazing platform for anyone who is trying to break into the music business, whether they win or not.

  124. The show doesn’t produce normal fans. It produces and maybe even encourages, the over-invested, rabid fan. Please, they should just end this madness, so people can get back to having a normal life.

    It’s more like AI provides a focal point for the same kind of people – those who tend to go OTT for anything that they like and do it in an obsessive, overly emotionally-invested way. The Internet allows these people to find others similarly inclined and they encourage and reassure each other that such behavior is “fine” and “normal”, when it’s not. Add to that the fact that the success of contestants on the show is perceived to be dependent on fan votes and there’s an unusual sense of ownership/protectiveness that a lot of rabid fans have in their Idols, and a determination to see them succeed beyond the show. It’s a fascinating phenomenon, and AI milks it for mega$$$.

  125. The ads are very good. The home town thing is brilliant because Idol w/o Simon will be different. This connects the show with its history. I don’t mind the superstar thing. That’s the goal of the show whether they achieve it or not.

    The biggest thing for Idol is a NEW genre of winner. The show can’t afford a clone of the type that’s won for a few years now. That would really hurt. I thought Idol would die w/o Simon but after watching the X Factor, I’m not sure. That show is really crap.

    Idol should make sure they get a female winner (by any means necessary. ;)

  126. The biggest thing for Idol is a NEW genre of winner. The show can’t afford a clone of the type that’s won for a few years now. That would really hurt. I thought Idol would die w/o Simon but after watching the X Factor, I’m not sure. That show is really crap.

    I don’t like how contrived X-Factor is compared with Idol (in terms of how the contestants are “molded” while on the show and the staging of their performances embellished). To me, having Wagner as one of the finalists on X-Factor pretty much undermines any credibility that show attempts to have.

    I believe that Idol dropping the minimum age of contestants to 15 is an attempt to find the next Bieber – that kid (and Taylor Swift) are doing so well commercially that I’m sure that Idol is salivating at the prospect of finding someone similar to tap into the incredibly lucrative pre-teen/tween/teen demographic.

  127. American idol is about giving someone an opportunity to get a record out on a major label and to get some exposure. It doesn’t guarantee stardom. Those that are given an opportunity need to take that opportunity and turn into something. Many of the contestants in all 9 seasons have put out records, got into acting, broadway plays etc. These are jobs they may not have been able to land without their idol exposure. So I think the idol exposure has been good for many.

  128. I finally got around to reading the comments here. I liked both the 30 sec and 60 sec commercials. I liked how it highlighted each in a then and now sort of way – if not musically, at least physically. I’m not going to read anything into which were chosen for the 30 sec spot. I figure there is another 30 sec with the remaining 4 winners – maybe Lee being most recent will be in both. In 9 years they had 4 female and 5 male winners, so splitting down the middle is lopsided. Basing on hometown/home state is lopsided also since 2 winners were from Birmingham.

    For those wondering about the featured auditioners in these. Think ACTOR! Last year people were up in arms over some people being featured in the pre-season commercials and it turned out they were just actors. One guy when tracked down said that he couldn’t sing or play the guitar at all. He was just paid to play a role.

    I’ve been watching since Season 1 and what drew me to the show was music. I grew up in the era where music/comedy shows ruled and I was thrilled that was coming back to my TV.

  129. Nice ads! Not being invested in anyone, I really like seeing all the winning moments, whether or not that person is a favorite of mine. I get a little teary seeing anyone succeed – even Taylor Hicks (Just kidding!!)

  130. I don’t think reality/competition shows are going anywhere. They are on almost every network and every cable channel. They are no different then sports programming…and that is all about a winner and a loser and rooting for your favorite. Heck…competition has been a mainstay of our society for decades if not forever.

    Most people who watch AI could really give a rat’s ass about who wins or who looses. They just like the premise of the show and love to watch how it plays out every week…and just like decorating shows, fashion shows, cooking shows, fat loosing shows, or shows like the Greatest Race or Survivor that crown a winner most peeps couldn’t tell you who won or who lost months after the show ended…just like a lot of peeps forget easily who won the last Super Bowl, or NBA, or Stanley Cup or World Series.

    In reality AI isn’t really about the winners or loosers even though the award is an opportunity to make it in the recording business. I would hazard a guess that most people who watch the show don’t listen to radio or buy CDs or care a hoot about who is #1 on top 40 any given week. The winner (and several runners-up) get awarded a prize and then they move on…and a new cast of competitors replace them the next year. That is how all competition works…and just like an Olympic Gold Medal a recording contract doesn’t give you massive cred outside the competition arena…that is just how the game is played.

  131. No surprise why Simon lost interest.

    think Simon lost interest because he realized that he couldn’t manipulate the audience as much as he did in the past. Simon was the one who had a legitimate opinion, but he lost a lot of credibility by making it too obvious that some of the things that he said were only meant to sway the audience.

    He also lost interest because he was only a judge on AI, but he would obviously have more control over a show that he produces and owns. He can change the rules every week like he does on the UK version of X Factor.

    I believe that Idol dropping the minimum age of contestants to 15 is an attempt to find the next Bieber

    I think their motivation is simpler than this. Just like it is in the shows best interest to have an even mix of male and female contestants, as well as contestants who aren’t white, it is also in their best interest to have some who aren’t adults. Simon couldn’t seem to stand anyone who was 16 or younger, so this is probably something that Simon Fuller wanted to do for a long time.

  132. I am certainly not David Cook’s biggest fan, but I have to say his little clip in the 60 second commercial is sizzlin hot.

  133. I am certainly not David Cook’s biggest fan, but I have to say his little clip in the 60 second commercial is sizzlin hot.

    Nothing against Cook but this is the main reason why women are struggling to win Idol. At least the X Factor won’t have this problem. That show is completely rigged to produce a Katy Perry/Ke$ha type winner. Idol needs one of those too–but she should also be able to sing. ;)

  134. The show doesn’t produce normal fans. It produces and maybe even encourages, the over-invested, rabid fan. Please, they should just end this madness, so people can get back to having a normal life.

    You make it sound like Idol has turned America into a herd of salivating, over-invested fans and they need to stop the show and save us all. It’s kinda hilarious, really.

    Idol isn’t going anywhere as long as it is a cash cow. That’s just business. They do sorely need to have a good season, but I can’t imagine it could be worse than last year (and that is coming from a viewer since S2 who actually really likes a couple of last year’s contestants, but it was just a mess).

    I won’t miss Simon, at all, he was so bored and arrogant the past two seasons that I wanted to punch his shiny teeth ;) I’m curious to see how this panel works, hopefully they stay out of the way of letting the contestants be the focus. That’s who I am there for, anyway.

  135. Most people who watch AI could really give a rat’s ass about who wins or who looses. They just like the premise of the show and love to watch how it plays out every week

    I’ve said before when we’ve had the conversations about why x Idol had x votes but didn’t sell that many albums that everyone I know (mom, sister, aunt, cousin, friends) watch the show, enjoy the competition of it, have a favorite, vote now and then… and then at the end of the season promptly forget these people existed until next year. They don’t care how many albums they sell, they don’t care about their cred or not cred or any of that… they just enjoy a reality show for a season and move on.

    I often envy them that ;) Dammit, Cook.

  136. I must have a cold, black heart because those promos did not make me tear up or yearn for the old days of Idol.

  137. For those wondering about the featured auditioners in these. Think ACTOR! Last year people were up in arms over some people being featured in the pre-season commercials and it turned out they were just actors. One guy when tracked down said that he couldn’t sing or play the guitar at all. He was just paid to play a role.

    I think that was a different type of commercial, the actors weren’t shown at the audition, they were shown having jobs and dreaming. I’m pretty sure these are real auditioners in this new promo. Sorry windmills, but I don’t think I have it in me to sleuth it out. They could be from the recent judge rounds (so that would cut down the cities) or maybe they snuck in producer round footage(?)

    the main reason why women are struggling to win Idol.

    For the record, I still don’t believe this. It is more complicated than, oh that person is cute so they’ll win. I mean, Luke Menard did not win S7 so there is obviously more going on than just looks (sorry, Luke!) I think it is about portraying the right persona on TV and making song choices that work for the competition while handling the emotional rigors of the competition. Several girls have really struggled with this in recent years (especially good song choices for TV). I think they are too focused on “being true” to themselves rather than being entertaining, whereas some past female winners really nailed all of those different qualities, IMO.

  138. Nothing against Cook but this is the main reason why women are struggling to win Idol. At least the X Factor won’t have this problem. That show is completely rigged to produce a Katy Perry/Ke$ha type winner. Idol needs one of those too–but she should also be able to sing.

    This. Women and teen girls screaming about how hot Cook, Kris, and Lee (seriously?) are pretty much shows that a woman will never win this show ever again. They shouldn’t even try out. I said that after the last win and I will continue to say it until I am proven wrong.

  139. I’m of the opinion that the key to winning Idol is personal likeability. Musical talent can get contestants deep into the finals but it’s an appealing personality that separates them at the end. I can’t speak for last year because I didn’t watch (and I won’t be watching this season), but in seeing the first 8 winners again I am reminded of just how very likeable they were on the show and how none of their victories surprised me. They all had “it” and, whether their careers have been smooth or bumpy, they all still do.

    ETA: Absolutely a girl can win again. Like all previous winners she’ll just have to have that special something about her which makes the majority of voters adore her.

  140. This. Women and teen girls screaming about how hot Cook, Kris, and Lee (seriously?) are pretty much shows that a woman will never win this show ever again.

    I think that’s oversimplifying. I love me some Cook, but I voted and often for Crystal last year. Just because I think Cook is hot does not mean that I’m an estrogen-hating voter, lol.

  141. This. Women and teen girls screaming about how hot Cook, Kris, and Lee (seriously?) are pretty much shows that a woman will never win this show ever again. They shouldn’t even try out.

    They need to find women that are good enough, and when they have them, not throw them under the bus like they did last year.

  142. They need to find women that are good enough, and when they have them, not throw them under the bus like they did last year.

    While I do believe that there are a group of female viewers who will never vote for a female contestants, I do have to agree that people like Lil, Megan, Paige,and even Allison’s sex had very little to do with them not winning. Allison’s age was a bigger factor than her being a female. The show has not had a lot of strong female contenders over the last few years, even Crystal had some major issues, mainly her failure to connect with the audience, and not rising high enough above other people who were major underachievers.

  143. They need to find women that are good enough, and when they have them, not throw them under the bus like they did last year.

    I don’t think they screwed the girls last season. In fact i think it was the opposite, but the girls were just not very appealing. I liked Crystal, but she did not connect well with the younger generation. Then you were left with Lacey and Paige who were just awful, Katie who reminded me of a pageant girl, and Siobhan who screamed her way out of the competition. I’m not surprised that the guys made it farther last season. I supported the last 3 winners, but that doesn’t mean that i will automatically support a guy next season. I’ve been watching the X factor and I’m definitely rooting for Rebecca to win even though there is a WGWG.

  144. This. Women and teen girls screaming about how hot Cook, Kris, and Lee (seriously?) are pretty much shows that a woman will never win this show ever again.

    Not all women, but women in general tend to be more threaten and catty against other women who are successful and who are attractive. That’s why a show like AI that tends to have a stronger female viewership will never see the likes of someone like Carrie Underwood winning again. That’s why the obviously more talented and smarter Crystal Bowersox did not triumph over the more ordinary Lee Dewyze.

  145. Not all women, but women in general tend to be more threaten and catty against other women who are successful and who are attractive. That’s why a show like AI that has more female viewership will never see the likes of someone like Carrie Underwood winning again. That’s why the obviously more talented and smarter Crystal Bowersox did not triumph over the more ordinary Lee Dewyze.

    Carrie did not look like she does now when her season aired. I don’t know if that means anything, but she, just like Kelly, looked more like the ordinary girl next door, instead of a beauty queen. She was also in the finale against a male, who fit the so called WGWG image, and the show had more female viewers and voters than male ones during her season, too.

    I won’t go into all of the ways that Crystal slipped up, and was not a smart AI contestant.

  146. I don’t think they screwed the girls last season.

    I do think that they screwed Siobhan in a big way, and Wicked Game is a good example, with Simon apparently hating the song (not just the interpretation) at the time, but loving it when Rebecca performs it.
    Of course it’s subjective and others may disagree, but anyway, Siobhan was my favourite until she fell apart, and as far as I know, she is female.

  147. sp34567:
    10/31/2010 at 9:45 am
    Nothing against Cook but this is the main reason why women are struggling to win Idol. At least the X Factor won’t have this problem. That show is completely rigged to produce a Katy Perry/Ke$ha type winner. Idol needs one of those too–but she should also be able to sing.

    This. Women and teen girls screaming about how hot Cook, Kris, and Lee (seriously?) are pretty much shows that a woman will never win this show ever again. They shouldn’t even try out. I said that after the last win and I will continue to say it until I am proven wrong.

    So now we’re blaming Cook because he is hawt and has charisma (and the boy can sing too) for the the reason girls don’t win Idol. Sorry but not buying it. Personality has a lot to do with winning and the last 2 years have not really had girls with that much. Some were downright trainwrecks with their singing and flat personalities.

    Until TPTB stop trying so hard to find a particular type of girl (last year they wanted a Taylor Swift clone and we all know how that turned out) it will continue to happen.

    To blame a particular idol (or a WGWG) because a girl could not win is a unfair. When a girl steps up and performs like a star, they will become one.

    As to doing away with instruments, sorry but in my book it takes a lot more to play an instrument and sing compared to just singing. Try it sometime. It’s not as easy as it looks.

  148. I won’t go into all of the ways that Crystal slipped up, and was not a smart AI contestant.

    Yeah, as much as I love her, she didn’t play the game well. Which is why I wasn’t surprised (or bitter) that she didn’t win.

    Until TPTB stop trying so hard to find a particular type of girl (last year they wanted a Taylor Swift clone and we all know how that turned out) it will continue to happen.

    I think that was a major issue last year – well, and that some of the more interesting people that I wanted to see more of left early (Alex, Lily, etc.) But outside of the Idols themselves, the pacing, the lack of chemistry with the judges, the crappy camera work, the appalling lack of good sound on a show that features singing… I think the Idols would have had to be really fantastic to overcome that and as a group they just weren’t. If nothing else, Idol TPTB, can we fix the *SOUND* please?

  149. everything:

    Not all women, but women in general tend to be more threaten and catty against other women who are successful and who are attractive.

    Over the course of my long and varied career, I have worked in many places that were overwhelmingly male and let me assure you, women in general are not the only ones who can get catty.

    That’s why the obviously more talented and smarter Crystal Bowersox did not triumph over the more ordinary Lee Dewyze.

    Lee picked the right songs and gave them the right delivery week after week consistently enough that he won. That’s “talented and smart” enough in my book.

  150. That’s why the obviously more talented and smarter Crystal Bowersox did not triumph over the more ordinary Lee Dewyze

    I’m a fan of Crystal, but I have to disagree with this. She didn’t play the game right, which is the reason why she lost. The back talking made her seem like she had an attitude and she made boring song choices towards the end of the season, while Lee was the humble, nice guy. By the time the finale came, it was too late to change people’s opinions, even though she clearly was the best that night.

  151. I do think that they screwed Siobhan in a big way, and Wicked Game is a good example, with Simon apparently hating the song (not just the interpretation) at the time, but loving it when Rebecca performs it.

    I don’t think that Siobhan knows a lot about music, or herself as an artist, and that worked against her, especially since she tried to do too much.

  152. Reminder:

    The subject of this thread is not : “Let’s rehash every season of Idol until the thread degenerates into an ugly fan war.”

    The subject is the Idol promos. Let’s stick to discussing that.

  153. The subject is the Idol promos. Let’s stick to discussing that.

    I think I’ll go watch ’em again. You know, to study up for discussion :)

    They are really nice – and as someone who has watched Idol since S2, it’s some very nice nostalgia!

  154. They are really nice – and as someone who has watched Idol since S2, it’s some very nice nostalgia!

    I mean, it’s OK to discuss the winners that are in the promo, and Season 10, but the same subjects keep coming up in many threads, no matter what the topic. (Cook! Allen! DeWyze! Single handedly destroying Idol!)

    And it’s the same people introducing the topic. Honestly, it’s beginning to feel like baiting. And, it’s really repetitive.

  155. IMO when Idol hits on a female who is non-threatening, likable, beautiful, can sing anything AND plays the game well then she will win. I don’t believe at all women are just voting for men because they’re supposedly hot. Cook is probably the last winner to have a platinum album, those people who bought his music weren’t drooling over him.

    I hope AI does find another female winner and not a Katy Perry or Ke$ha but someone who’s voice will be valued years down the line.

  156. I really like the promos, they seem classy and Idol is smart in using past winners to promote the show (instead of the crazies who make up the audition rounds!)

    In watching the promos, something strikes me about all the people who did win. I think the big thing is humbleness. I only watched the seasons when Fantasia, Jordan, David Cook, Kris Allen & Lee DeWyze won. Each season when it came down to the final 2, they all could sing great and had all the talent to become great recording artists. But to me, and this is JMHO, Adam L & Crystal came across as a little cocky. The same with Blake. David A just seemed a little too immature to be thrown into the Idol whirlwind, and Fantasia just captivated people when she sang, so much more than Diana. Does this mean the person with the better singing voice won? Not necessarily. All the singers mentioned above have wonderful singing voices. But JQ Public became an ally of the winners because they were your everyday person; nice, unassuming, appreciative and humble. Thus voting for their “American Idol.” When I watch them in the promos, that all comes back to light.

  157. Carrie did not look like she does now when her season aired. I don’t know if that means anything, but she, just like Kelly, looked more like the ordinary girl next door, instead of a beauty queen.

    Well, of course, she didn’t look like she does now. She now has the benefit of stylists and personal trainers — but in reading through old articles and comments on Carrie videos from her stint on AI, she was very much singled out for being very attractive even back then. Not to mention the fact that she was, in fact, a beauty queen when she auditioned for Idol. The girl had entered quite a few beauty pageants and won and/or placed highly in them by the time she auditioned for Idol. So let’s not kid ourselves and pretend Carrie was some ordinary looking girl when she auditioned for AI just to argue a point about Idol back then vs. now.

  158. In all fairness, I do believe David Cook won on merit. Archie also had the cute, lovable factor going for him. And I don’t think any of the women in Season 7 were robbed of a place in the Top 2. I actually think Syesha Mercardo and Kristy Lee Cook got much further in the competition than either deserved.

    In as far as Season 8, there were only 3 women in the Top 10. I do think Alexis Grace was robbed of spot – instead of Megan Joy. But Allison Iraheta was never a serious threat to be in the Top 2, let alone win.

    Now with regards to Season 9, IMO, Crystal Bowersox is more talented and is the better singer. And if AI was truly about those factors, she deserved to win. But we all know AI has never been about who is the most talented or better singer.

    And there is Season 5. Top 2 were Taylor Hicks and Kat McPhee. Chris Daughtry finished 4th. So the good looking guys aren’t always propelled ahead and the attractive women pushed back.

  159. I like the promos. They focus on the reason for the show in the first place: for a great singer/ordinary person from anyplace America to have the chance to win the recording contract they’ve always dreamed about.

    Whatever people’s opinions about the winners or how they’ve done afterwards or what longevity they have achieved/may achieve, that is what the show does.

    And once you push your way through all the manipulation and conspiracy theories and WGWG’s are destroying the world stuff and look at the people who have won, for the most part they really live up to that original theme.

  160. I also agree that a woman will never win Idol again.

    Crystal clearly outsung Lee in the finale and she should have won. It’s a singing competition, it’s not who is the cutest and, therefore, gets my vote.

    This is also the reason why many of the male Idols are not as successful as the females, because their fans have chosen to treat the males like pieces of meat.

  161. I think that’s oversimplifying. I love me some Cook, but I voted and often for Crystal last year.

    Me too! I voted for Crystal because she was (to me) the most talented, even though her type of music isn’t really my cuppeh. DeWyze’s type of music was probably closer to what I like (well, within throwing distance), but I was just appalled by the out of tune-ness and lack of any performance ability (to me). So, no estrogent hatred here either.

    Other than Carrie, Daughtry and Kelly the only one that was even close to the top ten albums for their year was David Cook whose album was #13 last year in the Billboard year end chart. Other idols, including Kelly’s first album were at least in the 20s or above.

    So, really, if you look at the year end chart rankings of the debut albums for idol winners, Carrie Underwood was first, and David Cook is second at #13. And including non winners, Daugtry and Carrie would be first and second, with David Cook third.

    But I thought that little f*cker Cook was single-handedly bringing down Idol because of his hotness and making women viewers hate on women contestants on Idol? But now you’re telling me he sold well too? But isn’t that kinda good for Idol to have a winner that sells well post-Idol (relative to the industry that is)? Or maybe that’s bad, I don’t know. I’m so confused now.

  162. Crystal clearly outsung Lee in the finale and she should have won. It’s a singing competition, it’s not who is the cutest and, therefore, gets my vote.

    It’s never just about the finale, by the finale everyone has chosen their favorite, and very little will change their opinion. Which, is actually something that falls in line with the promos, people feel like they are on this journey with the contestants, and get to see them develop over the course of the season.

    This is also the reason why many of the male Idols are not as successful as the females, because their fans have chosen to treat the males like pieces of meat.

    Perhaps this would be an issue if people had to rely on AI fans for their success, but the successful idols are those who find an audience outside of the bubble. The male alums problems seem to fall mostly on produces music that is better suited for female singers.

  163. A girl will win this year.

    Mark it down.

    Also, Joesplace (http://www.joesplaceblog.com) has some spoilers and videos up of Hollywood contestants. Two interesting 15 year old girls, some good R&B contestants and country females, and a few good WGWG. MJ, would you be cool with starting a post with some of the spoiled contestants, or would it be way too early? Maybe a pinned spoiler thread that doesn’t specifically highlight any contestants that people could have discussions in?

  164. I can guarantee you that if Crystal Bowersox was as hot as Katie Perry she would have won. The same thing will happen in radio too. DJ’s/Program directors only play hot girls.

    Carrie and Kelly might have been your girls next door on the show, but they looked hot once they got their makeovers. Taylor Swift has that girl next door look. Common denominator? Girls next door and hot chicks are all appealing to men/ boys :)

    That Katie Steven would have had a chance had they tarted her up a little but but she was too old fashioned.

  165. Crystal clearly outsung Lee in the finale and she should have won. It’s a singing competition, it’s not who is the cutest and, therefore, gets my vote.

    People don’t just vote for the night performances, they also take into consideration how much they have liked the contestants in the previous shows. I think that it’s fair enough, and also it has nothing to do with gender.

  166. It’s never just about the finale, by the finale everyone has chosen their favorite, and very little will change their opinion. Which, is actually something that falls in line with the promos, people feel like they are on this journey with the contestants, and get to see them develop over the course of the season.

    And this is the reason why people have left the show and are not watching anymore. Because the person who deserves the win, doesn’t win. Because the rabid AI fans takes over and power votes for their favorite, therefore, the competition will never, ever be fair.

    If you want an example, look at Chris Daughtry. Look how many people were upset when he was eliminated. When Daughtry fans posted on the AI boards that they were done with the show and are not watching anymore. Guess what? They followed thru.

  167. And this is the reason why people have left the show and are not watching anymore.

    It was the number 1 show last year, and almost singlehandedly helped Fox when the key ratings crown.

    If you want an example, look at Chris Daughtry. Look how many people were upset when he was eliminated. When Daughtry fans posted on the AI boards that they were done with the show and are not watching anymore. Guess what? They followed thru.

    Yet, the show was still the top rated show the next year, and had the most expensive commercial ad time than any other show.

    I think the show has been a ratings juggernaut because people become emotionally invested with the contestants, when that doesn’t happen, the ratings fall like they did last year. The promo is trying to remind people of how they felt when these people won.

  168. The promo is trying to remind people of how they felt when these people won.

    Winning this show means absolutely nothing. The fact of the matter is Idol has a poor record in creating superstars.

  169. Their ratings have gone down every single year. Why is this so hard for people to accept?

    Every show’s ratings have gone down, especially with the introduction of DVRs and so many cable choices. But, even with that, AI is still the number 1 show, and the only show to average over 20 million viewers during the course of its season. That is impressive, especially since the other shows have a three month advantage on AI, and since AI is nine years old. There are not a lot of shows that could remain at the top of the ratings after nine years, most lose steam after five.

    Winning this show means absolutely nothing. The fact of the matter is Idol has a poor record in creating superstars.

    Most people don’t expect or care if the show creates superstars, that’s not why most people watch.

  170. And this is the reason why people have left the show and are not watching anymore. Because the person who deserves the win, doesn’t win. Because the rabid AI fans takes over and power votes for their favorite, therefore, the competition will never, ever be fair.

    If you want an example, look at Chris Daughtry. Look how many people were upset when he was eliminated. When Daughtry fans posted on the AI boards that they were done with the show and are not watching anymore. Guess what? They followed thru.

    If people don’t watch anymore because their favorites didn’t win, that’s fine, they can leave. Those of us who still want to watch understand that this is just a reality show and isn’t meant to be taken that seriously. It’s not the end of the world, and some non-winners, like chris, and are still able to get record deals, and have successful careers.

  171. f you want an example, look at Chris Daughtry. Look how many people were upset when he was eliminated. When Daughtry fans posted on the AI boards that they were done with the show and are not watching anymore. Guess what? They followed thru.

    No, that is just an extreme vocal minority. People in the heat of the moment might post that, but very few people are childish enough to stop watching something because they didn’t get their way.

  172. But I thought that little f*cker Cook was single-handedly bringing down Idol because of his hotness and making women viewers hate on women contestants on Idol?

    haha… people keep blaming cook for destroying idol..
    okay, i’ll take that as compliment.

  173. No, that is just an extreme vocal minority. People in the heat of the moment might post that, but very few people are childish enough to stop watching something because they didn’t get their way.

    Apparently, you don’t use Twitter. I’ve read hundreds of tweets from people who have stopped watching AI, because Daughtry was eliminated or because Paula is not on the show anymore.

  174. Apprantly, you don’t use Twitter. I’ve read hundreds of tweets from people who have stopped watching AI, because Daughtry was eliminated or because Paula is not on the show anymore.

    Hundreds would constitute a extreme vocal minority out of the tens of millions of people that watch idol. If people are still tweeting about being upset about Daughtry 5 years after the fact that is pretty sad.

  175. No it’s not sad at all. Just proves how much of a joke the show really is.

    Nope, it’s pretty sad.

  176. TV show’s ratings have gone down over the past few years, Idol is still the top rated show, with the highest ad revenue. There’s no way to parse that to make them not the top rated show right now, and no crystal ball for the future. IDK what else there is to say about it, logically.

    But now you’re telling me he sold well too? But isn’t that kinda good for Idol to have a winner that sells well post-Idol (relative to the industry that is)? Or maybe that’s bad, I don’t know. I’m so confused now.

    Keel, I empathize with your confusion. *chuckle* History can get re-imagined – I always like to see a few facts lying around. (Thank you, karenc) Yeah, it’s damn good for Idol. David Cook is a recent Winner that Idol can point to who proves winning matters beyond the Bubble, and the viewers votes started it off, so their investment is justified.

    TPTB are looking to get them to keep doing that, by tapping into the good feelings, and reminding them of other Idol winners they may have supported. It’s marketing of a successful product to support an unknown new roll-out, and FOX appears to be doing it very well, so far.

    In My Opinion, Of Course.

  177. Apprantly, you don’t use Twitter. I’ve read hundreds of tweets from people who have stopped watching AI, because Daughtry was eliminated

    Don’t people realise that this person is trolling? Twitter did not exist for public use when Daughtry was eliminated.

  178. Don’t people realise that this person is trolling? Twitter did not exist for public use when Daughtry was eliminated.

    People are tweeting this NOW! Not five years ago!

  179. People are tweeting, “how in the world did Taylor Hicks win that year and Daughtry get eliminated.” I see tweets about this every single day!

    The reason why Taylor won is because he had a rabid fanbase that power voted for him. Simple answer.

  180. If people are still tweeting about being upset about Daughtry 5 years after the fact that is pretty sad.

    No it’s not sad at all. Just proves how much of a joke the show really is.

    No, I’m pretty sure it’s the people still tweeting about Daughtry’s loss who are a joke in that scenario. Because, really, it’s more than time to move on.

  181. Every single year people are pissed “their” favorite didn’t win and it goes well beyond Daughtry. Hell there are still people I know mad Bo didn’t win. Every year there are those fanbases who will go on and on about why their favorite is the rightful winner even when the winner outsells said person. Bunches of annoyed fans aren’t going to kill the show.

    And gimme a break! I was a huge Daughtry fan during season 5 and I’m still a huge fan. Myself and many others who were annoyed back then have been over his elimination a very long time. Didn’t stop me from enjoying the show years later.

  182. Keel:
    10/31/2010 at 12:07 pm
    I think that’s oversimplifying. I love me some Cook, but I voted and often for Crystal last year.

    Me too! I voted for Crystal because she was (to me) the most talented, even though her type of music isn’t really my cuppeh.

    I love me some Cook, and my favorite last season was Lily. I remembered liking her unique tone and actually stumbled across her band’s EP on iTunes recently. The retro-indie-ish originals are pretty good. But she had a disastrous run on the show as far as presenting her talent to it’s best advantage. Something weird happened last season, cuz nobody was super engaging or teevee friendly in comparison to past season’s most popular performers. I don’t know if they weren’t getting good advice from the production staff or if they just chose too many mellow personalities who were more at home in a more intimate setting or they didn’t have the big voices to give real wow performances or what. Maybe Nigel really was a key factor in finding someone with the IT factor for television. I will say with 100% certainty that people weren’t complaining about the instruments or generally proclaiming the show off the rails during or after season 7 or season 8, so you do the math. Last season just kinda sucked.

    As for a woman winning, there was a long, long period when a female belter was considered the AI ideal singer. People eventually got tired of that. And now that we haven’t had a female belter win in awhile, that meme will probably make a comeback if they can find the talent to support it. I’d bet money on it.

  183. No, I’m pretty sure it’s the people still tweeting about Daughtry’s loss who are a joke in that scenario. Because, really, it’s more than time to move on.

    This. I’m actually one of those people who tuned out after Daughtry was eliminated in S5. Not because I was “over” Idol or to somehow punish them for eliminating “my” idol, but because I just didn’t care about the rest of the contenders. But you know what? Come S6, I tuned right back in and never gave it another thought.

  184. Just to add to this, in general most of the Daughtry fans I’m aware of were over his elimination years ago.

    The majority of those tweets come from people I think used to be casual viewers of the show. They’ll see Chris on a TV show or hear a song on the radio and it’ll spark that memory but I don’t think these people are sitting around obsessing over it. It’s not just Chris either. Other people will see Carrie and make note in a tweet of when “Idol was good”. I’ve seen these types of comments for several past Idol’s and they aren’t coming from their fanbases usually.

  185. But JQ Public became an ally of the winners because they were your everyday person; nice, unassuming, appreciative and humble. Thus voting for their “American Idol.” When I watch them in the promos, that all comes back to light.

    To be honest, JQ Public really isn’t the proper term. It’s more like Idol voters. I think the majority of JQ Public doesn’t give a rats ass about Idol.

    As far as the alignment you’ve noted? That’s not always the case. Sometimes voters align themselves with the winner because they don’t like the “other guy or girl’s” religion or lack thereof, sexual orientation, appearance, non-lily white past, race or other things that don’t jive with some American’s idea of apple pie and wholesomeness. I read these boards enough during last season to see Crystal’s lifestyle and leaving her son criticized, the girls’ looks being criticized, Big Mike’s “thuggishness” and other slams at those who didn’t fit the “sweet, unassuming archetype” to believe any different. Doesn’t really matter though to the contestants musical career though, AI just provides the platform to be seen. It’s not like all those “just like me” voters actually buy the music as we’ve definitely seen.

    I always felt that both Crystal and Adam were confident, not cocky. It’s funny how being confident in your talent and showing it is cocky, even while unfailingly acknowledging and thanking everyone who contributed to your performance. Considering how many of the AI contestants said that it was Adam that helped them the most during season 8, I guess it is all in the eye of the beholder, eh? I’d definitely rather see confidence than what I saw last season by the majority of the contestants..by a mile.

  186. Trina:
    10/31/2010 at 1:20 pm
    Every single year people are pissed “their” favorite didn’t win and it goes well beyond Daughtry.

    hahah ain’t that the truth…I still see articles by that crazy lady convinced of the evils of AT&T

  187. Doesn’t really matter though to the contestants musical career though, AI just provides the platform to be seen.

    Exactly, CindyM – and that’s what FOX is using these ads to remind people of. Plenty of variables after the show – but the show provided the opportunity. And the network provided the show.

    Recalling Ryan introducing David’s audition by saying “And thanks to Chris Daughtry, we met this guy…”
    allows the inference that – thanks to Idol, we met Chris Daughtry.

    I’ve seen it speculated that Idol taps into Joseph Campbell’s ‘Heroes Journey’ – (or Heroine), and whichever contestant personifies that most successfully will catch the public’s imagination. One can certainly say that Daughtry took an alternate journey, propelled by Idol – but certainly a successful one.

    But one cannot correlate viewers, or even voters, with purchases – so something else has to convert the interest during the show to buying the albums afterwards, past the first flush of victory – talent, timing, material, the state of the market and the continued appeal of the artist and their music – whichever, or whatever combination – it’s not the primary concern of the FOX network – they’re making commercials to promote and maintain their Number One show… but successful winners make that an easier task.

    JMO. Of Course

  188. Wow there are a ton of posts in this thread. Hopefully that’s an indication of excitement for next season! (probably not though). I love these promos. I love me some idol nostalgia!

  189. This. I’m actually one of those people who tuned out after Daughtry was eliminated in S5. Not because I was “over” Idol or to somehow punish them for eliminating “my” idol, but because I just didn’t care about the rest of the contenders. But you know what? Come S6, I tuned right back in and never gave it another thought.

    Exactly. There is simply no evidence people stopped watching the show in any significant number just because Daughtry was eliminated. I didn’t bother with finale that season, but still continued to watch the other seasons. In fact the early episodes of Season 6 were some of the most-watched in American Idol history – more people watched those early episodes than the most popular episodes of Season 5. The ratings for the rest of the season declined later in Season 6 due to the contestants being uninteresting, nothing to do with what happened the previous season.

  190. Hopefully, they will follow these promos up with features that demonstrate how all these winners’ lives and careers have changed for the better since they won idol.

    Idol is going to have to start equating “success” with something more than record sales if they want the premise of the show to remain valid. Because Idol-related mega sales are basically over.

  191. Hopefully that’s an indication of excitement for next season! (probably not though).

    AI will never have the numbers generated during its heyday in seasons 4 and 5 but it will continue to pull in masses of viewers. Most peeps don’t over-analyze the show..could really care less if Simon or Paula are there, will be entertained no matter who the judges or contestants are.

    It’s nice to see the AI promos featuring the past winners…that is like having commercials full of most valuable players or olympic medalists. People can identify how they felt (good or bad) when said contestants won and that instigates nostalgia and nostalgia heightens longing and longing will get viewers to watch.

    I feel pretty confidant that at some point the promos will also feature Steven T. and Jennifer L. and the resurgence of Randy. This is part of the show and will excite another portion of the fan base.

    None of us watch AI for ALL the same reasons. The audience is as diverse as the contestants (except if you were using season 9 as a comparison..and that is a dig) and they all will enjoy something different about the show. I’ll continue watching even though I gave it a rest last year…and I bet there are tons of others that will come back as there are tons who will have moved on.

  192. By the way, I really like the promos. Effective and touching and loved seeing the winners I liked :) Forgot how much I really liked Ruben until I saw his smiling face again.

  193. I think that all of the winners have been confident, but not cocky. The promo reminds me of something that Fantasia said, about realizing that she couldn’t talk back to the judges, even if it was in a playful manner, because that would turn the audience against her. Remembering that reminds me of season 8 contestants talking about AI orientation sessions, when they were told some of the mistakes that Daughtry made during the season, and how that took votes away from him.

    It’s no use in arguing about it, but I think one of the reasons why AI works, while similar shows failed, is because it’s not about voting for the person who you don’t like. The emphasis has always been placed on voting for the favorite, and I think that it’s that tone that has resulted in the show appealing to a large cross section of people. Most people aren’t going to sit down and power vote for someone they don’t like, just like they won’t continue to watch the show if it has the same negative tone that it did last year. That’s just not fun.

  194. Exactly. There is simply no evidence people stopped watching the show in any significant number just because Daughtry was eliminated.

    The season five finale was the most watched non-sporting event of the last decade (36.38 million, so I would say not too many stopped watching after Daughtry was eliminated. Maybe 10,000-100,000 at the most? A drop in the bucket.

    I would also like to point out that the night Daughtry was eliminated, NO ONE was saying it should have been Taylor Hicks instead. Taylor slayed on Elvis week.

    65 million votes came in for the S5 finale. Of that, probably 35-40 million were for Taylor Hicks. It’s mathematically impossible for a few die hard Soul Patrollers to generate those kind of numbers. So he had a broad range of support, until revisionist history took over.

    Yes, it’s past time to get over Daughtry’s elimination. It actually worked to his advantage. Daughtry got the big launch, advance single, Black Friday release, prime time appearances, support from American Idol, videos, radio promotion, none of which Taylor Hicks received. So who was really the one that was robbed?

  195. Yup, the rabid voters voted for Taylor. The sad part is their support for him ended post-Idol and I doubt those power voters even bought any of his music.

    The show gives a false sense of “look how popular I am” “people love me and they will buy my music”. Um no, it doesn’t work that way.

    Another reason why the show fails.

  196. Yup, the rabid voters voted for Taylor. The sad part is their support for him ended post-Idol and I doubt those power voters even bought any of his music.

    Another reason why the show fails.

    I can’t see why the show failed. They bought Daughtry’s music instead.

  197. The emphasis has always been placed on voting for the favorite, and I think that it’s that tone that has resulted in the show appealing to a large cross section of people. Most people aren’t going to sit down and power vote for someone they don’t like, just like they won’t continue to watch the show if it has the same negative tone that it did last year. That’s just not fun.

    Personally I think that changed in Season 8 and it was perpetuated by Idol itself with their “Danny vs Adam” storyline. Even when it was Kris vs Adam it was still billed as “The guy next door vs the guyliner”. Idol tried to make that a centerpiece and just because Adam and Kris (to both their credit) didn’t play that game doesn’t mean that voters didn’t. Last year wasn’t fun for me because there was too much of a sameness to the contestants, I hope this year we get a variety again.

  198. Reminder:

    Why is my mod being ignored?

    I asked people NOT to rehash the past in this thread. But yet? You are.

    (I deleted some posts if latecomers are wondering)

  199. LOL, sorry MJ, warning taken. Back to the Winner’s commercial. Aren’t Ruben’s dimples cute in this video?

  200. Nevermind, question about genres in the Promo – but relevance could have been questionable.

    I like the direction of the Promos so far, I think it looks like a successful campaign – I will likely check out Idol (the show, and not just the recaps and vids) for the first time in two years, so its working in this quarter…and anything that puts David Cook on my TV screen is A OK with me. *grin*

    Doesn’t leave me with much more to say I haven’t already said – Great thread, though.

  201. Kelly Clarkson – pop/rock
    Ruben Studdard – R&B/gospel
    Fantasia – R&B/soul
    Carrie Underwood – pop/country
    Taylor Hicks – blues/soul/rock
    Jordin Sparks – pop/R&B
    David Cook – alternative rock
    Kris Allen- pop/rock
    Lee DeWyze – pop/rock/folk

    here’s how I would describe the winners’ musical genres. They are pretty diverse.

  202. LOL, sorry MJ, warning taken. Back to the Winner’s commercial. Aren’t Ruben’s dimples cute in this video?

    Yes, let’s talk about Ruben’s dimples. Love them. They frame that beautiful, welcoming smile so wonderfully……

    I loved the promos, and I am not hating on anyone because I haven’t picked the correct winner since season 5. I follow my favorites and I have been lucky enough to meet a couple. Attend some concerts. Have a couple of signed cds. They continue to make music, so I can’t quibble about whether there is a super next to their star……just glad that they are still musicians, making a living doing what they love, and what I love seeing them do. All the other stuff is just blog fodder.

  203. Aww, lili_anne7, thank you! I really wanted to read a considered opinion. Much appreciated.

    :)

  204. lili_anne7:
    10/31/2010 at 3:23 pm
    Kelly Clarkson – pop/rock
    Ruben Studdard – R&B/gospel
    Fantasia – R&B/soul
    Carrie Underwood – pop/country
    Taylor Hicks – blues/soul/rock
    Jordin Sparks – pop/R&B
    David Cook – alternative rock
    Kris Allen- pop/rock
    Lee DeWyze – pop/rock/folk

    here’s how I would describe the winners’ musical genres. They are pretty diverse.

    I would only change Cook from alternative rock to Pop/rock…He doesn’t get any play on alt rock stations. He gets played on the same stations that play Kelly and Kris. YMMV

  205. I saw the 30-second promo on my 30″ HD TEEvee. Pretty Kelly, sweetpeas Cookie & Lee, Ruben’s dimples and my fellow Okie, Ms. Underwood. It was very very nice. :)

  206. Incipit no problem :)

    I would only change Cook from alternative rock to Pop/rock…He doesn’t get any play on alt rock stations. He gets played on the same stations that play Kelly and Kris. YMMV

    The reason I didn’t describe him as pop rock is because DC’s music is more alternative than it is pop. Sure he doesn’t get played on alt rock stations, but that’s only because they don’t want anything to do with AI.

  207. I don’t know-maybe TPTB are beginning to realize that they aren’t going to produce superstahs every season no matter how hard they try. Although the show has produced other very successful winners (and a few successful also-rans), Kelly and Carrie are the only real “superstars” this show has produced (IMO). Maybe they’re beginning to embrace the notion of celebrating the successes of all of winners, no matter how large or small. That’s what I get from the promos.

    One more thing-although I’ve never been all that fangirly toward David Cook, I must say he is looking very nice in those promos. :)

  208. I would only change Cook from alternative rock to Pop/rock…He doesn’t get any play on alt rock stations. He gets played on the same stations that play Kelly and Kris. YMMV

    I don’t think which stations play his music has anything to do with which genre he falls into. alt rock stations shun him because he came from AI, but his music has more in common with a band like KOL, who’s lyrics and tone are usually heavier and darker than most pop artsts. Of course this could change with the next album.

  209. I really like the new commercial and how they are using the past winners. They all look great. I believe some fans have stopped watching because AI started focusing more on the huge singing star of the moment ( those who would not have been caught dead on this show first few seasons) instead of bringing back the winners we loved. Let us see how they are doing and here them sing.

    How about a commercial with the top two as there were so many wonderful finals. Kelly..Justin. Ruben…Clay or even better bring them back and let them sing together. Just a thought.

  210. I want to say, I am a realist, so I am a bit nervous about putting this out here, but here goes. Reading all of these comments makes me chuckle a bit. People are people. They are going to tune in, either because they want something to talk about around the water cooler, or because their co-workers watch, or just plain curiosity. People want something to cheer about, they want something to criticize, they want to be a part of something that is bigger than they are. Many people do not have the opportunity to live their dreams. The Idols are everyday people who have become household names. People connect to that. How many times have you read that someone feels like they know an Idol personally, when they really do not? Idol may be a cheesy show, but so is the Bachelor and it still has a large audience. People like reality, even if they are not realistic. People believe in love and success. People want to see these things in the making. If the Idol winner is good, they will sell. The promos are nice, but they are promos, to sell the show. See who you can become. None of the Idol winner names go un-noticed, whether they are good or bad. Come join us. You can be one with them, just by trying out or rooting for your favorite, follow the program. Here, see all your favorites. The promos are very well put together, but they did not bring me to tears,(I’m with you here sp34567) or make me think of the people who were on idol, but did not win. They promote the show, with names and scenes of winners. Nice to see them all together and progressing. Everyday people that won a singing talent contest. They end the promos with, “They all start somewhere. American Idol”, not see Kelly, or Reuben or Fantasia or Carrie or Taylor or Jordan or David or Kris or Lee. Well done. Nigel is doing a good job promoting, IMHO.

  211. Ultimately, I like the ads and I think they’re a good sign for S10.
    So I give Nigel an A plus so far.

  212. Wow, that first promo especially was great. Not sure if I’d like the second as much w/o having seen the first already. But you can only have one first time. :) Anyway, they made me want to watch the new season (something I thought impossible) so I’d call them a success. They radiated with joy and contentment which made me feel good. If they can translate that joy for singing to the screen even as they critique and eliminate people, I think they could have a very, very successful year.

  213. Well, one caveat on the credit due – Nigel may have begun his PR campaign, but not with these. These promos are from FOX, to advertise their Number One show, and drive viewers to their network.

    They may share footage with Idol for other uses – that’s open to question – and the answer was “maybe” on Twitter, but the person in charge of the film crew, GSafarian, was specific – “BTW, the creative team behind this campaign is the same as the David Cook Promo “Dreams Begin” in ’08 & the Kris Allen Promo “Music” in ’09.” (when Nigel was very MIA. )

    Also – on September 23rd – “.just to clarify…this tour is for a FOX promo campaign…not the show :0).”

    I’ll hold off on Nigel’s Kudos until the show itself proves he wasn’t just talking.

    ~

  214. Okay, Nigel gets no credit. The ads are good though so kudos to the production team.

  215. Love love love the promos. Can’t wait to see more. Loved seeing my faves David and Kelly especially, but just really enjoyed seeing all the winners. And Carrie’s speaking voice is never not adorable and sweet,

  216. I will be the first to admit I know very little about how this business works. Much of what I see is what gets me to thinking. This may be Fox’s promotion, but Idol is tied to Fox and Nigel to Idol. Somehow, I would think they all work together to accomplish the same goal, a big audience that will be interested in the show on the Fox network. I agree with jpfan, the ads are very good and the production team did a great job. Can’t wait to see the rest. Hopefully, they pull lost viewers back as well as a new audience.

  217. When was this? What’s the story? Never heard this.

    One thing that I remember is Nick Mitchell saying that they were told not to wear sunglasses while on the air, because Chris did, and some people interpreted that as him being arrogant.

    The promos being from Fox means that Fox gets what makes the show work, I hope Nigel and Ken Warwick are paying attention.

  218. The promos give me hope that maybe they will put the focus back on the contestants this year instead of the judges..where it should be, in my opinion. “American Idol, Welcome Home”…what does that mean exactly? Welcome back to contestant-focus? Welcome back to Nigel produced? Could have many meanings. Or welcome to the contestants’ home towns, which really doesn’t make a whole lot of sense for an Idol promotion, unless the underlying theme is they are all home-town people from Anywhere, USA.

    BTW, I liked Season 9. I guess I’m in the minority, but it held my interest the entire season. And I saw the tour and they were very entertaining.

  219. I think these promos are excellent. It is amusing to me that so many who “will never watch the show again” or “stopped watching” still watch promos and read articles about it and take the time to post – so there is SOMETHING that brings them back. I’m one of those who swore I would never watch Season 10 (my reason being because I felt they slighted Kris last year…no reason to discuss this AT ALL – just telling you why I wasn’t going to watch) but in coming to this site for Kris news I will, I am sure, read comments and be sucked into watching (at least some episodes) again, even if it is so I can complain.

    As far as AI having rabid fans… when guy fans start showing up shirtless to performances with the name of their favorite spelled out in body paint, or fans start wearing hats resembling cheese because their fave hails from Wisconsin, I may agree with you. Until then…

    You have to look at how the Idols performed relative to their competition in their respective Billboard sales year. And with the exception of Carrie, Daughtry and Kelly (for her sophomore album only, not her debut), none of the other Idol winners or runners up sold in the Top 10 of their respective Billboard years — and certainly not Clay.

    From my understanding, the reason people subject themselves to the invasion of privacy that is AI is because they believe it will give them a “leg up” in the industry. Looking at album sales, if we want to see if AI has any influence, then we should compare them only to other artists in their same genre who had DEBUT albums in that year. It isn’t fair to compare their sales to other similar artist’s fifth or tenth album’s sales.

    If AI winners or runners-up sell substantially more of their DEBUT albums than other artist’s DEBUT albums in their first year, then I think we can say they have been successful, or at least more successful than they would have been without AI.

    I was reading some history on Katy Perry the other day, for example, who incidentally is on her 4th record label in 9 years. She certainly had a rocky start. Let’s give our winners/runners up/contestants some time before we label them “successful” or “failures.”

  220. As far as AI having rabid fans… when guy fans start showing up shirtless to performances with the name of their favorite spelled out in body paint, or fans start wearing hats resembling cheese because their fave hails from Wisconsin, I may agree with you. Until then…

    The oh noes, Idol fans are so rabid argument is always interesting to me because a lot of entertainment entities thrive on the rabid fans. Not only professional sports, but also Comic Con comes to mind, which is such a huge deal now that it’s become an industry barometer. I wonder how many people went as their favorite AI personality for Halloween? LOL If anything, I would guess 19 wishes the AI fans were as rabid as they used to be.

  221. Oh, I just LOVE these promos!!! So good to see many of my old favorites in one video.

  222. As far as AI having rabid fans… when guy fans start showing up shirtless to performances with the name of their favorite spelled out in body paint, or fans start wearing hats resembling cheese because their fave hails from Wisconsin, I may agree with you.

    Hmm, maybe that’s what we need – a true supporter’s section, like the Screaming Eagles for DC United. Then you’d have scarves! Chants! Some iteration of the very interesting chant that I don’t really understand that is essentially “Sh** on, sh** on, sh** on the bast*** below… oh oh…”

    Hee. Soccer fandom is a wild and crazy place. Idol fans have their own special crazy but… yeah. Sports fans are NUTS. I say this with love because my fandom for the Skins, DC United and the US National Team can get a bit… well. Shh, I might’ve done that chant a time or two when I had some beers.

  223. BTW, I liked Season 9. I guess I’m in the minority, but it held my interest the entire season. And I saw the tour and they were very entertaining.

    I agree “poster”- I also liked Season 9 & was pleasantly surprised to see very positive comments from the tour .
    Its seems that most people just want a bit more variety in the Top 10 – a bit like the winners shown in the videos . So I say keep the instruments but put through a range of styles to try & cater to a wider audience . All I ask is that they don’t put through too many 15 year olds as I don’t want to go through the traumas of them not coping with the competition!!

  224. Incipit:
    10/31/2010 at 6:13 pm
    Well, one caveat on the credit due – Nigel may have begun his PR campaign, but not with these. These promos are from FOX, to advertise their Number One show, and drive viewers to their network.

    They may share footage with Idol for other uses – that’s open to question – and the answer was “maybe” on Twitter, but the person in charge of the film crew, GSafarian, was specific – “BTW, the creative team behind this campaign is the same as the David Cook Promo “Dreams Begin” in ‘08 & the Kris Allen Promo “Music” in ‘09.” (when Nigel was very MIA. )

    Also – on September 23rd – “.just to clarify…this tour is for a FOX promo campaign…not the show :0).”

    I’ll hold off on Nigel’s Kudos until the show itself proves he wasn’t just talking.

    ~

    I read something about them using the ex winners in a promo months ago, maybe even right after the last season ended. It was way before Nigel came back to the show. So, it is likely that Nigel has nothing to do with the promos.

    And I love seeing David Cook on tv. They showed the promo on Access Hollywood tonight also.

  225. Judes:I agree “poster”- I also liked Season 9 & was pleasantly surprised to see very positive comments from the tour .
    Its seems that most people just want a bit more variety in the Top 10 – a bit like the winners shown in the videos . So I say keep the instruments but put through a range of styles to try & cater to a wider audience . All I ask is that they don’t put through too many 15 year olds as I don’t want to go through the traumas of them not coping with the competition!!

    I agree with this also. I did like season 9, and I do think that was a big part of the problem was lack of variety. Though I also think that many didn’t have as much confidence. Anyway, I definately don’t want them to not allow instruments, or at least, allowing them to rearrange songs. And I really feel that if there were too many of the same type, this was the fault of the judges and producers for the casting, not the contestants.

  226. Seeing Lee in those promos make me so — ugh. It’s like he doesn’t belong with the rest of them.

  227. Really enjoyed the videos!! Lee belongs just like the rest, he won get over it!!

  228. I love the promos. All these winners pleased a lot of viewers or they wouldn’t have won. The commercials are so well done they had me feeling sentimental even about the ones I didn’t vote for-which is most of them-The only winners I voted for are Kelly, Cook, and Lee.
    I hope this coming season features a lot of the former Idols; it will help them in retaining their still massive audience while they are seeking to attract new viewers.

  229. Lee won his season so of course he belongs with the rest of them! :)

  230. I really like these promos! Lee and Cook are the best parts of the promos for me. I love Kris, too.

  231. I started watching season 5, casually voting, maybe 10-20 times. But I knew who the first four winners were. If I didn’t hear some of them on the radio, I figured it was because their music was aimed at a different listener than me, I never obsessed about their success or failure. To me, they won a chance to get their music out there. After I started watching, my favorite (results night) shows were those that had performances by alumni. I hope season ten does this too. And random rant- why do they make eliminated contestant sing the song they were raked over the coals for? Let them sing but their choice (previously performed).
    Anyways, I love the promo adds, especially the one that shows first step of their winning- the golden ticket. It will be fun to see the rest of the promo adds.

  232. Oh and one last point, they all deserve to be there! These kids put themselves out there for millions to judge them every week and faced possible elimination every week. Just imagine “the lady or the tiger” choice, never knowing if they’d get another chance or if they’d pack their bags. It’s a wonderful learning opportunity even if they don’t advance to the win.
    This year is first time I’ve actually followed the show so closely or even bought iTunes d/l. And it really is like an investment, and it has me hoping for success like I never did before. Back next year?? You betcha!!!

  233. aprilfoolish ITA with everything you posted :)

    I, too have never followed the show (and winner) so closely and I’ve been watching since Season 1. I guess one of the things you have to endure reading these blogs is the sore losers. The basic 4-5 non-winner fans that feel the need to dis the winner to make themselves feel better. Sorta sad:( On a happier note, I am so excited to have ALL winners in the promo ads and to know I will get to see their faces with everything associated with AMERICAN IDOL WINNERS!

  234. I love coming to mj’s! I’ve gotten a lot of details, well actually practically all my information here, and I’ve met some pretty cool people. This is definitely the place to go for the dedicated fan!! It’s great to see idol information spanning all nine seasons, and the archives are great way to spend an afternoon browsing!

  235. I never really followed the show closely until Season 7. I did watch on and off, but I never really followed that close. I did watch more closely when Daughtry was on, but Season 7 was the first time I was really involved with the show. And it’s the first time I really became a fan of anyone after the show.

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