AI Season 8 Tour Stats: July 14, 16, 17, 18, 20, 21, 24: West Valley City, Los Angeles, Ontario, San Diego, Glendale, Dallas and Tulsa

More Concert Stats after the jump:

July 14: West Valley City, Utah: 6, 511 of 9, 702 (67%): $419, 540
July 16: Los Angeles, California: 11, 327 of 13, 238 (86%): $646, 070
July 17: Ontario, California: 8, 053 of 8, 240 (98%): $546, 744
July 18: San Diego, California: 9, 358 of 10, 237 (92%): $595, 294
July 20: Glendale, Ariz: 8, 832 of 10, 710 (82%): $552, 839
July 21: Dallas, Texas: 11, 244 of 11, 938 (94%): $701, 339
July 24: Tulsa, Oklahoma: 8, 431 of 10, 581 (80%): $524, 838

Summary of Concerts: 63, 783 of 74, 646 (85%) Total Revenue: $3, 986, 664
Avg Revenue: $569, 523

Summary of First 13 Concerts: 119, 396 of 144, 749 (82%) Total Revenue: $7, 471, 961 Avg Revenue: $574, 766

Season 7: Summary of First 15 Concerts: 145, 569 of 168, 550 (86%) Total Revenue: $8, 835, 748 Avg Revenue: $589, 050

Season 6: Summary of First 30 Concerts: 200, 047 of 315, 853 (63.3%) Total Revenue: $12.1M Average Revenue: $404, 913.73


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47 Comments

  1. In this economy, I think these are positive numbers. This tour appears to be successful. Can’t wait–2 more days. ATL (Duluth) is said to be sold out, and I confirmed this myself in my attempt to get additional regular tickets on line.

  2. These numbers look great. The So. CA numbers are especially impressive because the 3 venues were all less the 2 hours apart from each other.

  3. Isn’t Adam from San Diego and LA? I’m really surprised neither sold out. Don’t they normally do 2 shows in the winner/runner up home towns?

  4. Great numbers, they really have done a great job selling tickets and I doubt that the Little Rock numbers will drag them down.

  5. Isn’t Adam from San Diego and LA? I’m really surprised neither sold out. Don’t they normally do 2 shows in the winner/runner up home towns

    With the 3 venues so close, it’s really like they did 3 concerts in Adam’s hometowns. The CA venues have never done 2 shows in a row.
    Don’t forget, also, that CA had a total of 6 shows. Look at Texas, only one.

  6. Great numbers, they really have done a great job selling tickets and I doubt that the Little Rock numbers will drag the numbers down.

    Well considering that the LR show was sold out, I expect not. I still think it was a huge mistake not to add another show in AR. Kris IS the winner and there was clearly a lot of enthusiasm around his win in AR. I’m sure they could have sold out another show there.

  7. In following Idol for a few years, it seems that California is not like some states in support of Idols. Smaller states and towns do a lot better. Maybe it’s because entertainers are all over the place around LA especially, that AI is not big deal. There has yet to be a winner from the West Coast. Arizona and Missouri have each had one but the rest came from Southern states. Are there more invested fans there and also more AT&T access there? Glad the tour is doing well and wish I was getting to attend. I get to Kansas City one day too late. :wallbash_tb:

  8. Last time, people asked how these stats compared to previous AI tour visits to the same cities (note venues can change over the years):

    Salt Lake City/West Valley City
    S8: 6,511 : $419,540 – Megan Joy
    S7: 17,359 : $1,059,660 – David Archuleta (2 concerts)
    S6: 5,042 : $291,785
    S4: 6,497 : $285,105
    S3: 2,916 : $125,580 – Jon Peter Lewis
    S2: 7,627 : $304,095 – Carmen Rasmussen

    Los Angeles, California (Staples)
    S8: 11,327 : $646,070 – Allison Iraheta
    S7: 11,739: $709,598 – Chikezie
    S6: 8,263 : $455,119
    S5: 13,427 : $657,923 – Katharine McPhee
    S4: 12,030 : $657,923

    No other tour visits to Ontario, California

    San Diego, California:
    S8: 9,358 : $595,294 – Adam Lambert
    S7: 8,602 : $535,103 – Carly Smithson
    S6: 5,456 : $369,306
    S5: 10,624 : $525,720
    S1: 7,099: $192,434 – AJ Gil

    Glendale/Phoenix, Ariz:
    S8: 8,832 : $552,839 – Scott MacIntyre
    S7: 10,277: $630,137 – Brooke White
    S6: 9,701 : $598,130 – Jordin Sparks
    S4: 6,417 : $302,277
    S1: 9,422 : $249,119

    Dallas, Texas:
    S8: 11,244 : $701,339 – Michael Sarver
    S7: 9,501 : $582,500 – Jason Castro
    S5: 12,094 : $729,172
    S4: 6,031 : $289,427
    S3: 2,695 : $121,275
    S2: 6,752 : $279,550 – Rickey Smith
    S1: 12,964 : $381,760 – Kelly Clarkson/Nikki McKibbin

    Tulsa, Oklahoma:
    S8: 8,431 : $524,838
    S7: 12,177 : $696,375 – David Cook

  9. So overall respectable numbers. But geeze, poor Megan. 67% turnout for Utah. That had to have sucked.

    And yes, I think another AR date would have been an easy sell out. All I can think is that it was a venue booking/timing issue with four shows already scheduled back to back.

  10. With the 3 venues so close, it’s really like they did 3 concerts in Adam’s hometowns. The CA venues have never done 2 shows in a row.

    I’m not sure what you mean by this. It’s the first time they’ve been to Ontario, but they’ve been to Anaheim before.

    Here are the S5 stats for an equivalent set of concerts:
    Los Angeles: 13,427 : $657,923 – Katharine McPhee
    Anaheim: 11,522 : $607,678
    San Diego : 10,624 : $525,720
    Total Tickets: 35,573

    S6:
    Los Angeles: 8,263 : $455,119
    Anaheim: 7,922: $488,294
    San Diego: 5,456 : $369,306
    Total Tickets: 21,641

    S8:
    Los Angeles: 11,327 : $646,070
    Ontario: 8,053 $546,744
    San Diego: 9,358 : $595,294 – Adam Lambert
    Total Tickets: 28,738

  11. AR might have been a sellout in normal years. But with the economy sucking as it does, I’m guessing the producers decided to play it safe.
    In any case, great numbers considering.
    Did seem like it was closer to a sellout in Glendale than the numbers would suggest. …

  12. Great numbers, they really have done a great job selling tickets and I doubt that the Little Rock numbers will drag the numbers down.

    Little Rock didn’t do so well in the past.
    S6: 5,324: $333,171
    S4: 2,837: $127,570

    So, this year should definitely be an improvement.

  13. Thanks Kristen, I am a little puzzled by the Dallas numbers in comparison to season 7, are there that many Michael Sarver fans?

  14. Thanks Kristen, I am a little puzzled with the Dallas number in comparison with season 7, is there that many Michael Sarver fans?

    Anything is possible. Brooke managed to draw a lot more people than Jordin did.

    Last year there was also a Houston concert, so perhaps that is a factor (not sure of the driving distance and Texas is reasonably large).

  15. I think these numbers are excellent considering the economy. Also, the show, itself, is losing ratings. Less AI viewers should translate into less interest to see the AI tour. This doesn’t seem to be the case.

  16. The CA venues have never done 2 shows in a row.

    Lizland wanted to know if they usually do 2 shows in the winners hometown. ie: 2 shows in San Diego or LA (which I consider just as much Adam’s hometown.) I was simply telling her that I don’t think Staples would ever do 2 nights in a row.

    Also, in answer to your posted numbers from Anaheim. Anaheim is a bit smaller than Ontario. Oops, got that backwards. Ontario is smaller than Anaheim.

  17. Jul 29th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
    Isn’t Adam from San Diego and LA? I’m really surprised neither sold out. Don’t they normally do 2 shows in the winner/runner up home towns?

    California doesn’t do hometown pride like other places do. LA is not likely to get excited for anyone for purely being in LA (way too many people to get excited about), and usually other parts of California are not that much better. I am surprised that San Diego seemed to be as supportive as it was — that threw me since I figured it would be a bit more laid-back as well.

  18. I’m really surprised at the Tulsa numbers. The place was PACKED and I tried for about a month to find Tulsa tickets on Ticketmaster and they were always sold out.

  19. AR might have been a sellout in normal years. But with the economy sucking as it does, I’m guessing the producers decided to play it safe.

    Okay, Matt Giraud…AR is Arkansas, AZ Arizona, and AK is Alaska. :lol_wp:

    We have an idol problem with states that start with the letter A. Might as well tell you Alabama is AL.

  20. I am curious on why you are comparing S8’s first 13 concerts to S7 first 15 and S6 first 30? Instead of to their first 13.

  21. I am curious on why you are comparing S8’s first 13 concerts to S7 first 15 and S6 first 30? Instead of to their first 13.

    Partly because I’m lazy and partly because I was busy at the time. So, I punted.

    I had the Top 15 and Top 30 numbers already calculated in an earlier post. I think that by the time you get to 13, the average percentage sell-out and average revenue per concert starts to come out in the wash. Maybe if I’m feeling energetic later I’ll get to the first 13 concert stats (although, it will be comparing different cities anyway). Sorry. I’m in a wage dispute with MJ right now and am working to rule. I want 20 million dollars per year and she wants to pay me somewhat less. The poor readers are the ones that pay. I think we should start a twitter trend for MJ to pay me what I’m worth (on second thoughts, maybe not. I’d probably have to pay her for letting me post).

  22. California doesn’t do hometown pride like other places do. LA is not likely to get excited for anyone for purely being in LA (way too many people to get excited about), and usually other parts of California are not that much better. I am surprised that San Diego seemed to be as supportive as it was ‘” that threw me since I figured it would be a bit more laid-back as well.

    Not only that, but do you have any idea how much there is to do around the So. CA area on any given night?
    86%, 98%, and 92% are fabulous numbers!

  23. Not only that, but a large percentage of people who live in the L.A. area aren’t even native Californians, let alone native Angelenos — they move here from all over the place.

  24. Thanks Kirsten, I was just curious but I think that all in all this years group is doing alright. They should be happy with the numbers so far. It is a tough market but this years Idols like last years are selling tickets so all is good.

  25. Dallas and Houston are 4 driving hours apart.

    Houston is the 4th LARGEST CITY IN THE US WITH CLOSE TO 6 MILLION people
    in the area!

    We could have easily sold out in Houston and Dallas.

    I drove from Houston to Dallas for the concert and I know several others who did.

  26. Jul 29th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
    Isn’t Adam from San Diego and LA? I’m really surprised neither sold out. Don’t they normally do 2 shows in the winner/runner up home towns?

    California doesn’t do hometown pride like other places do. LA is not likely to get excited for anyone for purely being in LA (way too many people to get excited about), and usually other parts of California are not that much better. I am surprised that San Diego seemed to be as supportive as it was ‘” that threw me since I figured it would be a bit more laid-back as well.

    I don’t really believe that. I was at the San Diego concert (hometown) and they were off the hook for Adam. However, I was tracking tickets for S.D. for days and there were VERY few available. I ended up with nosebleeds right above the stage. I am positive that they never even opened up the far terrace levels for sale (I never saw ANY of those seats listed on multiple sites) they are just too far away. Both the San Diego Sports Arena and Staples Center are meant for basketball. If anyone bought tickets in those sections for more than $30, they would have reemed the management.

    Also, the L.A. show was on Thursday night. I work an hour away from Staples (could be three, in rush-hour traffic), but as die-hard as I am, I didn’t even seriously consider going to Staples (would have had to leave work early, drive separate from the person I was going with, pay $30 for parking …). If it was on Friday, it would have been a different story. Ontario had the highest occupancy percentage of any so far, so there you go.

  27. Not only that, but a large percentage of people who live in the L.A. area aren’t even native Californians, let alone native Angelenos ‘” they move here from all over the place.

    Not to mention the fact that geographic origin has got to be the most irrelevant and whacked reason for choosing what music you listen to, at least on this microscopic scale. I mean, I probably would rather hear American music than Uzbekistani music (maybe not, I’ve notgiven it a chance), but listening to someone because they come from the same state as me? Surely the fraction of people who do that is exceedingly small. I think it’s a trumped up concern in Idol world because of the local-kid-makes-good fairy-tale narrative that Idol wants us to believe in. It’s good for the tour coffers if they hit a pocket of the country where people are in to that, but it’s otherwise pretty insignificant. Even in those places, I bet if you checked everyone’s iPods, you wouldn’t find much of a jingoistic pattern to their listening habits.

    Or maybe that’s just wishful thinking on my part. I don’t want to think so ill of my fellow citizens’ brains.

  28. I don’t really believe that. I was at the San Diego concert (hometown) and they were off the hook for Adam. However, I was tracking tickets for S.D. for days and there were VERY few available. I ended up with nosebleeds right above the stage.

    Same thing happened at Staples. usually good seats open up a few days before or at least that morning. This year, nothing but nosebleed in the farthest section from the stage. Weird! That section, 3 really, was largely empty. I wouldn’t buy seats there and apparently other people didn’t want to either.
    Even Season 5 had good seats open up that week. I remember because I was so mad that 2 seats in 3rd row came up and I already had my seats to the side and farther back.

  29. Those numbers don’t seem great. Last year the top 2 had 2 shows each in their home towns and they sold out each night. It is hard to tell if it is the season or the economy. I am still not sure about going this year. Mainly because I liked 8 out of the 10 last year, and only a couple this year.

  30. I don’t really believe that. I was at the San Diego concert (hometown) and they were off the hook for Adam.

    Oh, I have no doubt that LA and SD did well, especially compared to what usually happens, but I don’t connect it to hometown pride, more interest in music. I live about ten minutes from Staples and went to the show to see Adam, but that had nothing to do with hometown pride and everything to do with musical tastes. I think that is how it generally goes in California, not the “oh, look — our hometown boy did well” since that seems so weird and very un-LA like.

    So yeah, I believe that they were off the hook for Adam, but LA was more about the show than hometown. San Diego may have been proud, but it’s not the norm, so it was probably a mixture of pride and being interested in Adam (and like I said, I was surprised there was a hometown pride thing going on there). I really do believe SoCal isn’t about hometown pride as I am a native of this area and it’s rather jaded about celebrity.

    I think it’s a trumped up concern in Idol world because of the local-kid-makes-good fairy-tale narrative that Idol wants us to believe in. It’s good for the tour coffers if they hit a pocket of the country where people are in to that, but it’s otherwise pretty insignificant. Even in those places, I bet if you checked everyone’s iPods, you wouldn’t find much of a jingoistic pattern to their listening habits.

    Or maybe that’s just wishful thinking on my part. I don’t want to think so ill of my fellow citizens’ brains.

    Oh, I definitely agree here. Which is why the local-kid-makes-good doesn’t really work for SoCal. And doesn’t sustain sells alone.

  31. As far as the Dallas show goes… there were a lot of people from other cities at the show this year since this was the only show in Texas. I was around people from Houston (4 hours away) and Austin (3 hours away) among others. Last year there was a show in Dallas and Houston as well as Bossier City, Lousiana which is only 3 hours from Dallas. It didn’t even occur to me until I was there that this was going to be considered Michael’s home venue. The town of Jasper isn’t even on my radar. I’ve lived in Dallas for 18 years and I don’t even know where Jasper is, and the only reason I’ve heard of it is because of that notorious & horrible dragging death that happened there a while back. I think it’s a very small town.

  32. Those numbers don’t seem great. Last year the top 2 had 2 shows each in their home towns and they sold out each night.

    That’s not true.

    15 American Idols Live E Center
    West Valley City, Utah
    July 14-15, 2008
    $1,059,660
    17,359 /
    19,172
    2 /
    0
    $68.50, $39.50
    AEG Live

    See that 0 after the 2? That means that of the two concerts, neither sold out. The average attendance for both concerts was 91%.

    I think this tour is doing fine. It’s tracking quite well to last year and when you consider the ratings slump and the economy, it’s probably doing better than expected.

  33. Last year there were shows in both Houston and Dallas. This year, only Dallas.

    Texas has one of the strongest economies in the United States, and some of the fastest growing cities (Austin, San Antonio, Houston….) With only one show in the state, many folks were forced to drive up to Dallas to see the Idols. (4 hours from Houston, 6 from Corpus CHristi on the gulf…) I would think that they wouldn’t have had any problem selling out another concert in Houston.

    David Cook played Moody Gardens in Galveston (just south of Houston on the gulf) on July 5th and had a great turnout.

    Michael Saver’s hometown of Jasper is much closer to Houston than is Dallas.

    Although it was a long drive, I have to say that the Dallas crowd was great, and that the American Airlines Center is a wonderful venue.

    My only complaint was that the damn bubbles they release at the end of the concert hit my glasses and totally fogged the special anti-glare coating AND RUINED MY $400 LENSES !!! DON’T look up !!! I was really fortunate I had a spare pair with me – or I would not have been able to drive back to Houston (or across the street for that matter). What do you think they have in those bubbles anyway? Lye?

  34. Thanks Kirsten – I actually wanted to edit my comment, but it wouldn’t allow me to. I must have surpassed my time limit to edit or delete.

  35. Thanks Kirsten – I actually wanted to edit my comment, but it wouldn’t allow me to. I must have surpassed my time limit to edit or delete.

    No problem. I think you get 10 minutes to edit.

  36. Personally, I think it’s wrong to put the onus of ‘hometown hero’ or whatever on any of the contestants or geographical locations or that is what is or should drive sales at each venue. So many factors come into play: weather, economy, national news events, media hype. And of course, how well rounded a show is in terms of the talent.

    I also think that the toughest audience for each performer might be their home city, county, state, regional area, genre. High expectations and higher criticism from people who don’t want to appear biased.

    It looks to me that Season 5 did the best overall in terms of tickets sold. That season really had something for everyone. It was also just before the Real Estate bubble burst and the economy started it’s nosedive.

    I notice Lisa Tucker from Season 5 isn’t included as a ‘hometown’ girl for either Los Angeles or Orange County venues. She has much in common with both Allison (she’s only 16, prior TV talent show winner) and Adam (Broadway show/theatrical exp). Side note: I saw Lisa in ‘The Lion King’ prior to her being on AI and she so impressed me that I sought out her mother at intermission when I saw the show.

    CA is a huge melting pot. As was said before, the majority of residents come from other places. The joke here is, if you’ve lived here 3 years you’re a native.

    I don’t get the comment above that AR would bring the numbers down. How would a sold out show negatively impact the numbers?

  37. I think this tour is doing fine. It’s tracking quite well to last year and when you consider the ratings slump and the economy, it’s probably doing better than expected.

    Yeah, I think it’s also nice for the kids to play to good crowds. So that’s cool for them, as well as doing well financially given the other factors.

  38. I notice Lisa Tucker from Season 5 isn’t included as a ‘hometown’ girl for either Los Angeles or Orange County venues.

    I just neglected to include her in the Anaheim results. Sorry.

  39. At least they are doing way better than the Season 6 numbers! Those were awful.

  40. Overall, IMO tour is doing really well. The next set of concerts also seems to have sold well – LR sold out, Memphis and Tampa sound like they were 85% sold – only top tier seats left, and Atlanta hasn’t had any Ticketmaster tickets for a few days. Also looks like Sunrise, FL did OK. too.

    I don’t think it makes sense to talk about Adam’s hometown in the same way as many past Idols — Kris, Cook, Archie or even Kat McPhee. He didn’t really have the same kind of concentrated geographic support that Kris had in LR, Archie in Utah or Cook had in Kansas City. He even had to decide where to do his homecoming show. But Adam does seem to be drawing fans all over the country.

    Well considering that the LR show was sold out, I expect not. I still think it was a huge mistake not to add another show in AR. Kris IS the winner and there was clearly a lot of enthusiasm around his win in AR. I’m sure they could have sold out another show there.

    I don’t know if they could have sold out another LR show. Memphis is across the river form Arkansas and less than 2 hours from Little Rock. There were Kris fans from Arkansas there, but Memphis had more Adam fans and seemed to even have more Danny fans than Kris fans. Tulsa is also only 3-1/2 hours from Conway, closer for the folks in Northern Arkansas, and it had loads of empty seats. Finally, I bought 6 – 2nd row floor seat from a ticket broker for only a $10 premium. Most the people around us bought seats from ticket brokers and the highest surcharge I heard about was $20. Resale ticket pricing is one way to gauge demand, and if there was demand for 12,000 more LR tickets, I should have had to pay a higher premium for these really great seats.

    It’s easy to forget that Little Rock-North Little Rock-Conway, AR is a small metro with only 666,401 (2008) people.

    THE ARE TWO GAPPING HOLES IN THIS CONCERT SCHEDULE! Why wasn’t there a show in Houston-New Orleans or in the South Central?

    Big miss #1 – Gulf Coast!!! Over 10 million people and not one concert?
    Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown, TX MSA (#6 in US) – 5,728,143
    New Orleans-Metairie-Kenner, LA MSA – 1,134,029
    Baton Rouge, LA MSA – 770,037
    Jackson, MS MSA – 534,047
    And Michael Sarver is from East Texas, not Dallas. houston would have been his hometown concert.

    Big Miss #2 – South Central! The highest AI ratings, over 8 million people!
    Nashville-Davidson’“Murfreesboro’“Franklin, TN MSA – 1,550,733
    Birmingham-Hoover, AL MSA – 1,117,608
    Knoxville, TN MSA – 681,525
    Chattanooga, TN-GA MSA – 514,568
    The center of the American music industry, and no show!

  41. I have to agree with Kirsten here. When you stack these numbers in comparison with season 6 and considering our bad economy, this tour isn’t doing that bad at all with the exception of the SLC show. I guess by looking at that show, had the contestant been as popular as Archie or Brooke as she noted, the turnout may have been a little better but who knows.

  42. To be fair to Megan and the Salt Lake turnout I can tell you (having lived there for 50 years) that the conservative nature of Utah is more in the pocket book than in the politics. Whenever there is an economic downturn..Utahns by nature start hoarding everything and all of the “frills” take a tremendous hit. They are programmed to prepare for the worst and to hunker down during bad times. I am sure all the arts and sporting events and recreational enterprises are taking a very direct hit.

  43. My only complaint was that the damn bubbles they release at the end of the concert hit my glasses and totally fogged the special anti-glare coating AND RUINED MY $400 LENSES !!! DON’T look up !!!

    This is sad … but I’m laughing (sorry!) because I was so mesmerized by Adam at the LA show that I NEVER noticed the disco balls OR the bubbles! (and I was on the floor 2nd row center)

    Totally agree that it’s the economy. There’s no way that LAs #s were higher in S5 because of Kat – just a fact of this area. (not a dig at Kat, just reality)

  44. If anyone is still on this thread, I have a question.

    In many of these arena’s there appear to be seats that dont get put up for sale due to being either beside or behind the stage line of sight.

    So if the arena holds so many people for a sporting event, but say a couple thousand less for a concert, then do they adjust the numbers to reflect that or do they still count all the seats as available but not sold?

    Which would of course make the percentage lower than it should be! I thought the Staples center looked much fuller than the numbers above are reflecting.

  45. Arenas have seating based on the event. There are different counts for different sporting events. Also concert seats are based on the stage layout chosen by the event and the number of floor seats. Sometimes the sound board area will impact the seats available on the floor and the perimeter around the stage will also affect the available seating.

    For a concert (unless the stage is set in the center and the concert stage is set for “in the round” the seats to the side and behind the stage are not counted.

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