Adam Lambert: Ryan Tedder says, “Man this guy’s out of his mind, it’s amazing…I did four songs with him”

In a recent interview with About.com, hit songwriter and OneRepublic frontman, Ryan Tedder was positively giddy about work he’s done with Adam Lambert:

Yeah, you should look out for Adam Lambert. I’ve done, as of now, and it could change, but as of now, four songs for his album. I’ve never watched American Idol until this year. Ironically, I’ve worked with enough of them you think I would have, but I never had. But this year I saw that guy and thought, “Man this guy’s out of his mind, it’s amazing.” Finally something different. This guy doesn’t care. I love it, and so I did four songs with him. I’m not going to say what the single is. I’m actually trying to find out what the first single is right now. I’ll just say I’ve got these two now that are in contention. I would love, of course, to have the single.

Adam flew to Denver a couple of weeks ago to work with Tedder. At the end of the Denver sessions, Adam tweeted, “In Denver recording w Ryan Tedder!!! Get ready for your Sonic Lobotomy!…Denver Tedder sessions were major!”

Two of the 4 songs Tedder did with Adam are in contention for the first single. Let’s hope they’re not “Already Gone” part 2.   Just playin. Actually, Tedder’s infectious excitement over working with the glittery one gives me hope he didn’t phone it on on those sessions.

Speaking of   Kelly Clarkson… When asked to name his favorite songs for other artists,   Tedder answered:

I’ve gotta be honest, man, “Already Gone” still gives me goosebumps. I love the crap out of “Already Gone.” I love that one and for the first time ever, last week in Orlando I heard “Happy, ” the Leona song, on the radio, and that might be my new favorite.

Suck it, Beyonce! Heh.   Kiddng aside…Hello damage control?

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149 Comments

  1. Oh, here we go again! Total excitement…please, Tedder, don’t dash my hopes!!! (Another thread that could go on and on for days till we GET SOME MUSIC!!!). Remaining calm.

    LEAKAGE??? PLEASE???

  2. according to a tweet I saw earlier, some guys named Back Ted-n-Ted are working on an Adam track. I looked them up. They are electronica musicians, I think.The only name I recognized that they worked with is Imogene Heap:

    backtednted: Beginning work on @adamlambert track and live set for @imogenheap tour. Locked in!
    about 2 hours ago from

    moderncollins: Listening to @backtednted talk production with THE Adam Lambert http://myloc.me/RRFv
    about 18 hours ago

    http://www.myspace.com/backtednted

    backtednted: @adamlambert has one of the most beautiful voices i have ever heard.
    41 minutes ago from web

  3. am i the first to post? wow! good for Adam but i dont know if the 4 songs may sound very similar. i listened to some songs from 1Republic’s new album and all sounded similar with a similar melodies. maybe they’ll choose the best of the four.

    and i get a feeling this thread is going to blow up! predicting 500 plus here hehe

    ETA: guess i’m not the first to post

  4. Idk what to think about this, Tedder ALWAYS hypes every single track he’s working on. He says the same thing everytime, how its “out of this world” and “like nothing he’s every done before”…

  5. We need a leak now!!! I can’t believe that all of the excited people working with him are able to keep their mouths so tightly shut that we don’t even get a hint of song news.

    Yeah, we know he is fabulous to work with and his voice is out of this world- we really already know that, tell us something we don’t know, like where’s a friggin’ actual song!!!!

  6. Well, he’s gonna blow his own horn, but on the positive side, we know the songs don’t suck so badly their own writer hates them. Always good news.

  7. I read that more as he was hyping Adam, not himself. I don’t think that this:

    I’ve never watched American Idol until this year. Ironically, I’ve worked with enough of them you think I would have, but I never had. But this year I saw that guy and thought, ‘Man this guy’s out of his mind, it’s amazing.’  Finally something different. This guy doesn’t care. I love it, and so I did four songs with him.

    hyped Ryan Tedder as much as it did Adam. Since he said stuff like this near the end of the Idol season too, I don’t think it’s all self-hype. However, YMMV.

  8. ‘like nothing he’s every done before’ ’ ¦

    LOL. And we know that claim is not true in all cases…Halo/AG.

    Anyway, it’s nice to have great things said about you. Better than when Clive went around telling everybody that Kelly’s CD sucked.

  9. Does RCA get to pick the first single? I don’t know how the process works, but I assume that Adam himself will not get to choose.

    Anyone know how it works?

  10. hyped Ryan Tedder as much as it did Adam. Since he said stuff like this near the end of the Idol season too, I don’t think it’s all self-hype. However, YMMV.

    I think I communicated poorly…I mean if Tedder’s got any financial stake in something he’s not going to insult it. He could very well think Adam is crazy talented, I just don’t take artists at face value when they want songwriting money.

  11. I cannot imagine that Adam gets to pick the first track, Gigi3, but maybe he will get a tiny bit of say? BTW, I liked One Republic’s album A LOT, and I think it sold very well. Three songs stood out for me: Apologize, Come Home (one of Adam’s favorite songs, see Upright Cabaret), AND Stop and Stare. No one said that Tedder gets 4 tracks on the album, just that he had written 4 of them. Didn’t he write at least one for Kris?

    Dammit, I want leakage…

  12. Ok, I swore I wasn’t going to do this anymore after Thursday night… and yet here I am lurking around again. I really hope there is some kind of leak soon. Although Adam’s name seems to be floating around a lot, I think maybe it is time for something real like an interview or something. I know I am tired of reading the same things over and over and I am a major fan. Wonder what other people think.

  13. You know, news is going to come when we least expect it, we may starve for news before that happens, however!!

  14. its all a little bizarre…its like they are ALL trying to keep everything under wraps…even Adam…he’s not even tweeting that much anymore, which might also be because he’s busy recording but still…he prob knows that his album is No.1 on Amazon by now and its strange he hasn’t said/tweeted anything about it…guess we shall have to keep waiting…I’m excited but more than anything I’m curious…even if the songs are not the best EVER I’m sure they will still be a lot better than most of the crap that’s being played on the radio now a days (not including “Already Gone” which I think is a nice song and sounds nothing like Beyonce’s “Halo” to me..never understood that whole controversy…)…
    hopefully he will just burst (not literally lol) onto the music scene…
    I remember in one of those little weekly IPhone interviews he would do on AI he said once that he felt that there was a void in today’s music industry and I totally agree…he has everything it takes to fill that void and then some its just a matter of going about things with the right approach…
    besides, the enthusiasm that the producers have been showing is a very good sign…hopefully it means they are adding that little extra something that they perhaps wouldn’t do for other artists…just speculation on my behalf but w/e we can hope…
    LOL Adam must be feeling the pressure..but he has said he works well under pressure so we shall see. And hear lol.

  15. I agree a writer is not going to talk negatively about something they have written, but on the other hand they also have there judgement of what is popular and good to be questioned if they say it is good and it isnt. I think the team of producers/writers that Adam has on his side are the best out there, and if they say it is great, then chances are it is at the very least not going to suck!!!!

    Here is a tweet from Greg Wells last night.

    Rekkids on fiyah – Adam’s music sounding incredible!
    about 16 hours ago from Tweetie

  16. Although Adam’s name seems to be floating around a lot, I think maybe it is time for something real like an interview or something. I know I am tired of reading the same things over and over and I am a major fan. Wonder what other people think.

    I think that Adam is doing exactly what he said he was going to do in those end of tour interviews. He said he was going to do nothing but work on finishing the album for the 3-4 weeks after the end of the tour, a single would be out mid-october and the album on November 24th. It’s only twitter and random blog rumors that have gotten anyone thinking anything else. I’m to the point, if I don’t hear it from 19, RCA or Adam himself, I’m not getting my hopes up for anything.

  17. I am starting to actually feel very relieved that Adam is taking his time and focusing on the album – despite the ‘need’ for a leak, I’d rather he focus on the music and then put out as good an album as possible under the circumstances – I love the comment about Adam’s voice, hopefully there will be a song or 2 on the album which will showcase it, although I love some of his earlier releases too (like “Kiss and Tell”) which were danceable and where the voice wasn’t quite so prominent.
    I think focusing on his album is more respectful to the fans in the long run than tweeting (as it hopefully ensures a better product). Still
    a single next week would be great :)

  18. good for Adam but i dont know if the 4 songs may sound very similar. i listened to some songs from 1Republic’s new album and all sounded similar with a similar melodies. maybe they’ll choose the best of the four.

    If he wrote some of them with Aimee and her husband they won’t all sound the same.

  19. When I get back tonight, I hope there is *something* from the video shoot. Or maybe a flailing tweet from Aimee. ;) I agree that Adam/RCA know exactly what they are doing, but a tiny bite would satiate my appetite for now. ;)

  20. I know, I know…TPTB will control EVERYTHING on an Idol album and will call all of the shots and the poor Idol doesn’t get to say anything!

    Personally, I think this is more of a fan myth than an actual fact. I really think that fans expect so much from their favs that when it doesn’t happen it is so much easier to put the blame on 19 or RCA/Jive or the man on the moon then admit the Idol just didn’t bring it all to the party. And because so many of the Idol albums don’t have all of the bells and whistles that the fans want they always talk about not enough time, or bad writers, or a repeated sound, or to many backing tracts, etc. etc. etc.

    Case in point…Ryan Tedder and his sound. Now, because a few people have “believed” all of the gossip on the internet Ryan is a hack. His songs all sound the same, he retreads everything, he steals from Christian songs, he doesn’t have an original idea, so on and so forth. So now if his song(s) with Adam aren’t up to snuff it will be all his fault and the fault of TPTB for calling him in as a songwriter.

    Well, I for one, am going to put the blame squarely on Adam’s shoulders for every note that comes off of his album. And if he puts a Ryan Tedder song on his album it will be my humble opinion it is because he wanted it and enjoyed performing it. Much as I love Adam he isn’t going to get to pass any “blame” on to anyone else. He has told us that he has control, others have said he has control, he has experience and a lot of time in the biz and he seems to be making the best use of his limited time while he is recording.

    So I’m going to say that this album will be good because of Adam or bad because of Adam and that he will get to wear the crown or the dunce cap…no passing the buck for me on this one.

  21. Anyone have connections over at ONTD_AI?

    Because this is from another board:

    Oh, and someone over on ONTD_AI says that a new 2012 trailer featuring Time for Miracles will be out on October 5th. :

  22. Great comments from Tedder even tough they are expected, the only question to me is why he hasn’t talked positively about Kris since he worked with him too, maybee it’s just because he wasn’t asked about him?

  23. He said he was going to do nothing but work on finishing the album for the 3-4 weeks after the end of the tour, a single would be out mid-october and the album on November 24th

    I bet I heard Adam say this ten times. Did everyone forget this? Just because Jive does things one way, doesn’t mean RCA is going to do the same. Faster does not mean better.

    RCA and Adam have a plan in place. Everyone involved sounds over the moon excited. So, we know everything is moving along as planned. (or better than they expected) We just don’t know the details.

  24. Oh, and someone over on ONTD_AI says that a new 2012 trailer featuring Time for Miracles will be out on October 5th. :

    No way, not again! LOL! Luckily, I’ll be busy all day/night on the 5th, so I’ll be conveniently spared from obsessing.

    On another note, although I’m anxious to hear new Adam music, I’m on the side of those who are glad he’s taking his time to, hopefully, produce a quality product. One of the greatest complaints I’ve heard about post-Idol CDs is that they’re rushed and, therefore, lack quality, originality, etc. What made Adam stand out on the show were, among other obvious talents, his outside-of-the-box choices and presentations. It seems that by giving Adam such a diverse group of writers and producers and ample time to complete the whole process, Idol is truly allowing him to create the album he’d always dreamed of.

  25. The info on ontd_ai is secondhand knowledge that a new 2012 trailer featuring TFM should be out in a few days (that is, the poster can’t swear to it, but is alerting people to keep an eye out on Monday on the possibility).

  26. Valentin432
    October 3, 2009 at 2:01 pm
    Great comments from Tedder even tough they are expected, the only question to me is why he hasn’t talked positively about Kris since he worked with him too, maybee it’s just because he wasn’t asked about him?

    Has he actually worked with Kris yet?? I know he said he was scheduled to, but I didn’t know it had happened yet. According to Kris he only has 12 more days to finish the CD, so if it’s going to happen, it’s got to be soon.

  27. the only question to me is why he hasn’t talked positively about Kris since he worked with him too, maybee it’s just because he wasn’t asked about him?

    In this case, he wasn’t asked about Adam, either. He was responding to this:

    Is there anything in particular we should watch for from your outside projects this fall?

    In response to that question, besides Adam, he also mentioned be excited about his work with Adele, Leona Lewis, and Rhianna.

  28. I had posted a twitter from this person involved in Adam’s video shot yesterday Here is a tweet from her today:

    amandabearpig To all the obsessive Adam Lambert fans that RT’d me and replied to me yesterday: No I was not an extra. I was the hair and makeup artist. 6 minutes ago from txt

  29. I had posted a twitter from this person involved in Adam’s video shot yesterday Here is a tweet from her today:

    amandabearpig To all the obsessive Adam Lambert fans that RT’d me and replied to me yesterday: No I was not an extra. I was the hair and makeup artist. 6 minutes ago from txt

    Umm… ok, WAS??? Does that mean the shoot happened yesterday instead of today?

  30. two new tweets from another person, who tweets I posted last nite:

    @backtednted

    @adamlambert has one of the most beautiful voices i have ever heard.about 2 hours ago from web

    Beginning work on @adamlambert track and live set for @imogenheap tour. Locked in!about 3 hours ago from web

  31. amandabearpig To all the obsessive Adam Lambert fans that RT’d me and replied to me yesterday: No I was not an extra. I was the hair and makeup artist. 6 minutes ago from txt

    Sooooooooo, can she tell us if it was for TFM or his own single? Because if it is for his own single we can safely say it has been chosen!

  32. Has he actually worked with Kris yet?? I know he said he was scheduled to, but I didn’t know it had happened yet. According to Kris he only has 12 more days to finish the CD, so if it’s going to happen, it’s got to be soon.

    I would think that is a very slim chance of that happening in the next 12 days, as OneRepublic headed out on tour the day after they worked with Adam in Denver on 9/22…! They do have a couple days off in the next 12 days, so you never know.

    http://www.onerepublic.net/events/

  33. had posted a twitter from this person involved in Adam’s video shot yesterday Here is a tweet from her today:

    amandabearpig To all the obsessive Adam Lambert fans that RT’d me and replied to me yesterday: No I was not an extra. I was the hair and makeup artist. 6 minutes ago from txt

    Ugh ……. will people that do this please get some lives????? Pissing off people like this serves no purpose other than giving Adam fans a bad name.

  34. Kris was scheduled to work with the writer that loved Alison as well (forgot his name). Maybe they changed his whole schedule after seeing what collaborators worked out for him. The egg white guy sounded exciting, I like all the people he works with (Adele, Duffy and so on).

  35. I monitor twitter because I use it for work. It is so insane to see how people are badgering anyone who appears to have any connection to Adam. They spam them, send them angry tweets and beg them for info constantly….

    This poor woman was inundated last nite after she had twittered …..

  36. Ugh ‘ ¦’ ¦. will people that do this please get some lives????? Pissing off people like this serves no purpose other than giving Adam fans a bad name.

    How is it that non-Adam fans always seem more “concerned” about the so-called reputation of Adam fans than the actual fans themselves? Oh…

    I hope we get a song soon. Alli and Adam’s single on the same day would be amazing.

  37. Stopthemusic:

    Alli would be overshadowed if Adam’s came out the same day, I believe.

    Not good for Alli, but great for Adam…

  38. I monitor twitter because I use it for work. It is so insane to see how people are badgering anyone who appears to have any connection to Adam. They spam them, send them angry tweets and beg them for info constantly’ ¦.
    This poor woman was inundated last nite after she had twittered ‘ ¦..

    That is so pathetic!!

  39. saga
    October 3, 2009 at 2:37 pm
    Kris was scheduled to work with the writer that loved Alison as well (forgot his name).

    Yeah, Kevin Rudolph is who I think you’re talking about. Doesn’t seem like it happened.

  40. If you think that is bad, Adam is spammed constantly, all day, every day! Some fans send him 10,12 20 tweets of the same subject at once.

    Seeing how many people beg him to wish them Happy Birthday is absolutely insane.

    He now has almost 199,000 followers. I feel sorry for whomever monitors his twitter with or for him, because it would be so tough separating the garbage for actual decent twitter info/connections

  41. It is so insane to see how people are badgering anyone who appears to have any connection to Adam. They spam them, send them angry tweets and beg them for info constantly’ ¦.

    Wow. Wonder why no one is talking publicly. Dear fans: We have ourselves a self-driven information drought. If anyone in the know has any sense, they’re using encrypted direct messages.

  42. Posted this in the headline thread but adding it here since the debate seems to continue here;

    I wouldn’t be so scared of the claymate syndrome. The day Adam fans charts a whole bus and Adam secures special seats for the travelling adamites on late nights shows that’s when I’ll start to worry. Or when Adam starts keeping score on how many bras were thrown at him during concerts.

    From what people have said on this blog, claymates became what they are because Clay encouraged it.

  43. You know, news is going to come when we least expect it, we may starve for news before that happens, however!!

    No freaking doubt. We’re like cave people at the end of winter. We’ve consumed all our rationed supplies and we know that glorious spring is coming with its ample abundance, but meanwhile, we’re subsisting off our “stored energy” (or fat, whatever you want to call it).

    @adamlambert has one of the most beautiful voices i have ever heard.about 2 hours ago from web

    Erm, yeah. But thanks for saying so! I love you!!

    Rekkids on fiyah ‘“ Adam’s music sounding incredible!
    about 16 hours ago from Tweetie

    [raises head from hibernation as object lands on stone floor] What’s that?? A bone? Not a whole lot of meat, but may sustain me until the tomorrow, or possibly Monday. I’ll take it.

    [commences gnawing on bone]

    ETA: Re: Adam Spam … Peeps, get a grip.

  44. Ugh ‘ ¦’ ¦. will people that do this please get some lives????? Pissing off people like this serves no purpose other than giving Adam fans a bad name.

    How is it that non-Adam fans always seem more ‘concerned’  about the so-called reputation of Adam fans than the actual fans themselves? Oh’ ¦

    I wouldn’t know how non-Adam fans would feel, but as an Adam fan I find the behaviour of some obsessive and pathetic.

  45. had posted a twitter from this person involved in Adam’s video shot yesterday Here is a tweet from her today:

    amandabearpig To all the obsessive Adam Lambert fans that RT’d me and replied to me yesterday: No I was not an extra. I was the hair and makeup artist. 6 minutes ago from txt

    I think that anyone who works in a professional manner with Adam should not be twittering about it. I work in a hospital and HPPA privacy laws are very strict. I know that other professions, hairdressers in particular, are beginning to adopt privacy laws for their practices. Anyone who twitters that is working with Adam deserves what they reap, IMO.

    But, friend and family should be able to say anything they want without being hounded

  46. susanM

    meanwhile, we’re subsisting off our ‘stored energy’  (or fat, whatever you want to call it).

    Speak for yourself. Personally, I am lean and hungry. :lol:

  47. Speak for yourself. Personally, I am lean and hungry.

    LOL! Most people are at the end of a long winter. ;-)

    But whatever is left is keeping them from death.

  48. Jesus, someone on Twitter “quoted” me and my post. I didn’t even say they were electronica producers. i don’t even know. God I hate twitter.

    intimations: @insomniac19 @backtednted: electronica producers, worked on @imogenheap’s music, according to Studio57@mjsbigblog
    31 minutes

  49. From seeing those pics… seems more like for TFM than a single??

    I can’t imagine that being the set for a dance-y upbeat track…

    Maybe I’m wrong

  50. Yay, fog/smoke!!!! Yay, grandparents house in average neighborhood with beachball in yard!!!!!

    I don’t know what I’m saying; blame it on starvation!!!

    Thank you so much for being twitter vigilant!!!

  51. I wouldn’t know how non-Adam fans would feel, but as an Adam fan I find the behaviour of some obsessive and pathetic.

    Yes it is, but why focus on it? The crude behavior of others is not going to make me like Adam less. I try to ignore the comments and by the looks of how things are going so far a few crackpot comments is not affecting the progression of his future at all.

  52. No picture of Adam its just a fire drill in the local neighborhood

  53. It is great when twitter vigilance fianlly results in actual NEWS!!!

  54. From seeing those pics’ ¦ seems more like for TFM than a single??

    I can’t imagine that being the set for a dance-y upbeat track’ ¦

    Maybe I’m wrong

    You’re right. Location looks like some random, run-of-the-mill SoCal suburb. Could be the next block over from me. Which kind of feeds into the “2012” story line. They are just everyday people until THIS happens.

    For Adam’s first single video, I’d have a tough time imagining the thread there.

  55. HAPPY sucks. Kelly Clarkson, alone, is what makes ALREADY GONE into a memorable song. Beautifully, beautifully rendered with flawless vocals. Once again, HAPPY sucks. If that is one of his favorites …. I’m not buying it. PR is PR.

  56. Cough, sputter, wheeze. feeling faint … OMG… I thought it was just H1N1 … perhaps I won’t make it through to the album’s release. This is sad; very sad. But I’m still happy to look svelte from the front and invisible from the side.

    smoke= Adam video in my mind but suburbia does not … it must certainly be the TFM video … or did we already figure that out … calorie/news deprivation makes you slow of mind and foot.

  57. spinastory, don’t think so- look closely, you can see the large movie set lights on the right of one of the pics, the director cue cards, etc. This may be for real….

  58. but 4evrmomof4

    Spinastory’s theory is in keeping with all that we’ve learned about Twitter. And I like it. Tis funny …

  59. Let’s see now. Adam is walking through a scene of destruction, singing about a Time for Miracles and looking forward with hope in his eyes.

    And the beach ball symbolizes the future of all the little children…

  60. I love Ryan Tedder’s work. I am a fan of Apologize, Come Home, Halo, and Already Gone. Halo and Already gone don’t sound the same to me. I love them both. If the Tedder songs for Adam sound anything like those songs, I will be very happy.

  61. Let’s see now. Adam is walking through a scene of destruction, singing about a Time for Miracles and looking forward with hope in his eyes.

    I think Adam rises up from the smoke and ashes like a Phoenix and sings about a rebirth of humanity and restoration of faith in mankind in a post-apocalyptic wasteland.

    Or… his flaming headress fianlly set the drapes on fire.

  62. Much as I love Adam he isn’t going to get to pass any ‘blame’  on to anyone else. He has told us that he has control, others have said he has control, he has experience and a lot of time in the biz and he seems to be making the best use of his limited time while he is recording.

    I don’t think he will pass the “blame” as much as he will take credit on something he didn’t do. On the control side, I think what he meant he has control on the creativity side. What kind of song he wants to sing, what genres, producers he wanted to work with. I sure hope he will be one of few people on 19R/RCA’s roundtable that will decide which songs that will make the cut. I hope his labels co trust him enough to include him in that decision making process. But is it possible that RCA will let him be part of this very important part of the process? He has experience, but not in the music industry. Is it common that an artist be involved in this decision making process on which songs that can / cannot make the cut?

  63. I think that Adam is doing exactly what he said he was going to do in those end of tour interviews. He said he was going to do nothing but work on finishing the album for the 3-4 weeks after the end of the tour, a single would be out mid-october and the album on November 24th.

    This is true- he’s a “nose to the grindstone” kind of guy. A day and a half to decompress in NOLA and then it’s right back to work. There are things he has to do that we don’t even talk about- one would think they are putting together a band for promotional appearances, and I would have to think he has a hand in auditions. Although he likely knows quite a few people he still has to consider a lot of things when choosing his band and maybe even back up singers. He also has shopping to do (new wardrobe to define this new segment of his life) and all manner of meetings and other obligations.
    I doubt he has time to eat much less tweet.

    Well, I for one, am going to put the blame squarely on Adam’s shoulders for every note that comes off of his album. And if he puts a Ryan Tedder song on his album it will be my humble opinion it is because he wanted it and enjoyed performing it. Much as I love Adam he isn’t going to get to pass any ‘blame’  on to anyone else. He has told us that he has control, others have said he has control, he has experience and a lot of time in the biz and he seems to be making the best use of his limited time while he is recording.

    I know Adam says he is in control, and he may even think he’s in control, but 19/RCA isn’t turning him completely loose all on his own.

    While I do think he is on a very long leash for an Idol, he’s still on one. With rhinestones and studs and glitter, but it is still a tether.
    God knows what sort of association exists between Ryan Tedder and 19, but IMO it is substantial. I do think Adam’s thought will carry a certain amount of weight but in the end I still think 19/RCA is calling the shots. Like that FUKO art director said, marketing departments always go for safe.

    It will be a compromise all the way around from songs chosen to production to singles released to marketing to promotion.
    Adam is the figurehead but it is an entire cabal making the calls.

  64. anthrogeek

    :lol: :lol: :lol:

    but please Adam … you look great in the headress and all … but please save the beach ball … rebirth and restoration, rebirth and restoration … and very good PR too

  65. I love Ryan Tedder’s work. I am a fan of Apologize, Come Home, Halo, and Already Gone. Halo and Already gone don’t sound the same to me. I love them both. If the Tedder songs for Adam sound anything like those songs, I will be very happy.

    Ditto… but I want Adam’s to be a bit edgier :)

  66. But, if we must, really must, stay OT

    I love Ryan Tedder’s work. I am a fan of Apologize, Come Home, Halo, and Already Gone. Halo and Already gone don’t sound the same to me. I love them both. If the Tedder songs for Adam sound anything like those songs, I will be very happy.

    I concur.

  67. But is it possible that RCA will let him be part of this very important part of the process? He has experience, but not in the music industry. Is it common that an artist be involved in this decision making process on which songs that can / cannot make the cut?

    Well, remember Kelly C. was fighting with them about releasing “Already Gone” and look who prevailed. So, he probably will not have final say about what is released.

  68. Aren’t those pics from LA? I thought Adam was in NYC with that ted guy.

  69. suebrody October 3, 2009 at 1:36 pm
    I liked One Republic’s album A LOT…Three songs stood out for me: Apologize, Come Home </strong>(one of Adam’s favorite songs, see Upright Cabaret), AND Stop and Stare.

    I am hoping that at least one “Come Home”-like song will be included on his debut album. That song, along with “I Can’t Make You Love Me,” made me a fan before I ever heard Adam sing a note on AI. Because of your comment, suebrody, I just went back to watch it on YouTube again. Even after having seen it dozens of times before, it is still such an amazing, touching performance.

  70. Well, remember Kelly C. was fighting with them about releasing ‘Already Gone’  and look who prevailed. So, he probably will not have final say about what is released.

    That was also after the relative commercial failure of My December…Adam hasn’t screwed up yet (knock on wood). Plus Kelly got My December out in the first place, so she had to have some control. And didn’t Kellie Pickler threaten to put a song she liked on every album until her label released it as a single? So I’d imagine there’s some degree of choice. Maybe it’s minimal for the debut and certainly it gets bigger or smaller with the amount of success, but the Idols can get their feet in the door for choosing songs.

  71. Aloha and good day! I’m still slogging through the comments but this one in particular made me very happy…

    “backtednted: @adamlambert has one of the most beautiful voices i have ever heard.”
    41 minutes ago from web

    So, so true.

  72. Well, remember Kelly C. was fighting with them about releasing ‘Already Gone’  and look who prevailed. So, he probably will not have final say about what is released

    I think they can pull rank on him if they disagree but who says they will? I definetely think he will have a say. As for Kelly, I think she loves Already Gone, she was just pissed that Halo was out and it was a copy. The label didn’t think that mattered and I agree, the buying public won’t care.

  73. I think the Ted guy may be working via conference call or something like that….

  74. Ted is probably involved in laying electronic production on one of the tracks on Adams album. They probably discussed the track over phone.

  75. Def looks like TFM. I can totally visualize Adam standing in L.A. surburbia, raising his arms to the sky when it hits the most powerful moment of the song and the fog and steam releasing at that exact moment to make the vocals seem more dramatic and it appear the world is truly coming to an end…but with Adams vocals giving us hope. I can also see the ending of the song being a little bit like MW and them doing a close up on Adam’s face and eyes with maybe some fog/steam (or maybe no fog/steam just Adam) to end the song. And those twinkling eyes…oh my…
    I’ll test my theory lol! I just wish i could transplant myself 2 weeks in the future lol. Anyone else get this sort of vibe, esp. from the pics?

  76. I think the Ted guy may be working via conference call or something like that’ ¦.

    Didn’t he tweet that Adam has an amazing voice? I’ll have to look back.

  77. Here’s a guy who says he’s a gay black man who submitted for the shoot today:

    @deadlee2213

    Shout out to all my new Twitter homiez via Adam Lambert mention – I will update if I hear anything bout video shoot tomorrow1:18 PM Oct 2nd from web

    RT @BryNtMusic How dare you ask me why I’m not “international” yet? Until, you are Black and gay publicly DO NOT ASK ME SHIT LIKE THAT!7:52 PM Oct 1st from web

    Maybe Adam Lambert gives enough “freak” for everyone that they want boring people around him in the video? I still submitted7:18 PM Oct 1st from web

    Casting Notice came 4 ADAM LAMBERT video shoot Sat but they casting Every day average business types and Cops/medics with Traditional looks7:16 PM Oct 1st from web

  78. Ugh ‘ ¦’ ¦. will people that do this please get some lives????? Pissing off people like this serves no purpose other than giving Adam fans a bad name.

    Here’s an idea. don’t tweet about Adam or celebrities in gen. I wld think by now anyone who tweets abt seeing him , working with him etc wld expect a reponse or at least a question for more details. why else wld they tweet the info?. Of course i don’t support the crazy fans that attack someone when the info is wrong like the 2012 guy on thursday. my advice wld be keep the info to urself if u don’t want the “obsessive fans” on ur tail.

  79. READY FOR MORE NEWS!!!

    @alreference

    Apparently, Adam Lambert is doing a video shoot today for 2012’s Time for Miracles3 minutes ago from web

    Help needed to gather contact info for Canadian radio stations for the new Adam Lambert album promo website: http://bit.ly/JTe0vabout 2 hours ago from web

    @redhead4kids I posted the Canadian radio station thread on AO: http://www.adamofficial.com…about 2 hours ago from web in reply to redhead4kids

  80. So, I guess last night’s assumption that Adam would be shooting a video in NYC not panning out, but he is, in fact, TFM video in LA.

  81. I know Adam says he is in control, and he may even think he’s in control, but 19/RCA isn’t turning him completely loose all on his own.

    While I do think he is on a very long leash for an Idol, he’s still on one. With rhinestones and studs and glitter, but it is still a tether.
    God knows what sort of association exists between Ryan Tedder and 19, but IMO it is substantial. I do think Adam’s thought will carry a certain amount of weight but in the end I still think 19/RCA is calling the shots.

    I think Idol fandom is too quick to make this an Idol thing as opposed to a major label debut thing. A lot of artists who aren’t on indie labels deal with that for their first album. Pink’s debut was very different from the rest of her stuff and she had very little say in her sound. Same with Christina Aguilera. And as a newbie, by default the producers will likely dictate the sound because of the artist more than an experienced artist because of it being a relatively new to the experience (this was even true for a rock act like Muse, where you can hear their producer John Leckie’s mark on their debut, which made it sound a bit like Radiohead’s The Bends, another album he produced).

    RCA will have final the final say on the single and the producers will make their mark on the song, but I wouldn’t say that is purely because they are Idol puppets. It’s just a facet of pop music and major labels.

  82. Or’ ¦ his flaming headress fianlly set the drapes on fire.

    Anthro, you kill me…!

  83. I wonder if the bonus footage on the special adam cd edition will include TFM? How many rights does he have to the song?

  84. There are several tweets about this coming up:

    ok, apparently @ainow has a big announcement prepared for tonight and it’s top 10 related. i wonder if its a DVD of the tour.11 minutes ago from web

  85. Someone else has another reason for the video shoot:

    Adam video shoot is for a benefit (or so i found info on) that is being held today for a San Diego band that had a bus crash months ago.12 minutes ago from web

    This is the band, supposedly: @ACitySerene

  86. Well, remember Kelly C. was fighting with them about releasing ‘Already Gone’  and look who prevailed. So, he probably will not have final say about what is released

    It is possible Kelly was just plain wrong over Already Gone. The record was released, it’s a hit, and it is beautiful. Perhaps it’s not that these people are “puppets” with no control, but more that sometimes cooler heads prevail.

    I, for one, am glad Adam is surrounded by industry types who know the business in and out. Adam says he is working collaboratively– on the creative side– which is as it should be and I believe him. He is not a pushover.

    But the business side is where I think the label will have more input. A lot of creative types suck at business. And Adam may be grateful he doesn’t have to make all THOSE decisions himself. Still, I believe he will have some input.

  87. 4evrmomof4 October 3, 2009 at 2:54 pm
    They are filing outside this girl’s house!!!# Filming adam lamberts mv ‘“ http://twitpic.com/k4boi13 minutes ago from TwitterMail# Cooool ‘“ http://twitpic.com/k3p6tabout 2 hours ago from TwitterMail# Thheyre filimg something outside my grandparents house!about 3 hours ago from TwitterMail

    BestAI
    October 3, 2009 at 3:29 pm
    Aren’t those pics from LA? I thought Adam was in NYC with that ted guy

    I don’t know where these photos were taken, but I know where they weren’t. It’s highly unlikely it’s NYC. It was cool, gray, cloudy and rainy here today. No sunshine at all and wearing shorts, as some in the photos are, probably not.

  88. ok, apparently @ainow has a big announcement prepared for tonight and it’s top 10 related. i wonder if its a DVD of the tour.11 minutes ago from web

    Who/What’s “ainow”?

  89. RCA will have final the final say on the single and the producers will make their mark on the song, but I wouldn’t say that is purely because they are Idol puppets. It’s just a facet of pop music and major labels.

    And in this case it is probably a good thing, given the kind of crappy nature of the stuff he did pre-AI. Adam needs to listen to the pros right now, even if they aren’t always spot on, and I’d include making him work with Ryan Tedder as an example of a mistake by RCA. If RCA really meant for his cd to be some sort of revolutionary sound they certainly wouldn’t have put him with Ryan Tedder who is as bland and predictable as they come.

  90. Director Of AI Now, A Team Of Reporters/ Bloggers Bringing You The Best Coverage Of TV’s #1 Show, American Idol!’ ¦ http://www.ainow.org

    thanks . Maybe MJ knows what the announcement is !? :)

  91. have to go run errands for couple of hours-be back then- will keep monitoring to see what I can find for news!

  92. ok, apparently @ainow has a big announcement prepared for tonight and it’s top 10 related. i wonder if its a DVD of the tour.11 minutes ago from web

    Probably a video of the tour. Not too interested anymore. Would rather have just Adam.

  93. If RCA really meant for his cd to be some sort of revolutionary sound they certainly wouldn’t have put him with Ryan Tedder who is as bland and predictable as they come.

    I don’t think anyone has claimed his album will have some new revolutionary sound.

    Ok, I am very confused. What is Adams video shoot for? 2012, some benefit, his own single? I can’t dechipher these tweets!

  94. I can’t believe that RCA would let him do a video with all that stuff for someone else. Maybe someone is trying for free publicity.

  95. HotHotHot – I agree. Adam’s time is at a premium right now and he is obviously very busy. No matter how much he wanted to support a benefit, a video shoot right now for that doesn’t make sense. A video shoot for TfM would make sense and might not take all that long – they only need a few shots of Adam to interweave with movie clips for that type of video.

  96. Oh Crap, Babs topped Adam at Amazon!

    Still number 1 in rock, though, and #2 in pop. Look out Babs, Adam likes it on top, and won’t stay at # 2. :)

  97. Oh Crap, Babs topped Adam at Amazon!

    I’m amazed he lasted as long as he did at #1. I thought for sure that fan fueled purchases could net him maybe 2-3 days on top at most.

  98. I’m amazed he lasted as long as he did at #1. I thought for sure that fan fueled purchases could net him maybe 2-3 days on top at most.

    6 days at #1 is totally amazing for an album when it doesn’t have a title, track list and none of the buyers have heard one note. Plus, throw in the fact that there will be a deluxe album that is not available for pre-order yet, and many people are waiting to find if there are bonus tracks on the Walmart, iTunes or other versions.

  99. I know, I know’ ¦TPTB will control EVERYTHING on an Idol album and will call all of the shots and the poor Idol doesn’t get to say anything!

    Personally, I think this is more of a fan myth than an actual fact.

    TPTB might not control EVERYTHING, but they certainly call most of the shots. Idol fans always hope that the story will be different for their Idol favorite, but it usually isn’t.

  100. Adam’s position will drop even further when his Deluxe album is announced, as the numbers will be split between the two … I almost wish they would hold off on the Deluxe until after November 24th … Billboard and the other charts will add the numbers together, but Amazon keeps them separate …

  101. I just don’t see how this video shoot, he is supposedly doing, would be for TFM. Why would they not use the hours of footage they already have from the movie? With CGI, Adam could be inserted easily. If he’s shooting a video, I still say it’s for his single and not TFM.

  102. I don’t think anyone has claimed his album will have some new revolutionary sound.

    Yeah, I haven’t claimed that, and I’m quite aware that first albums are never that ground-breaking for any artist, especially the situation Adam is in right now. First albums tend to be about launching, and as Adam seems to be getting some decent backing, I’d say it’s a good sign there.

  103. PattyH: I just don’t see how this video shoot, he is supposedly doing, would be for TFM. Why would they not use the hours of footage they already have from the movie? With CGI, Adam could be inserted easily. If he’s shooting a video, I still say it’s for his single and not TFM.

    I agree. There is just no chance that Rolland Emmerich would let someone else shoot a music video for a song that is in his movie — prior to the release of the movie. Also, if they release a music video of TFM, they will use footage from the movie to promote the movie. The movie will probalby gross over $800 million — it is the big product.

    If this really is an Adam Lambert music video, it must be for his album single.

  104. PattyH
    October 3, 2009 at 5:55 pm
    I just don’t see how this video shoot, he is supposedly doing, would be for TFM. Why would they not use the hours of footage they already have from the movie? With CGI, Adam could be inserted easily. If he’s shooting a video, I still say it’s for his single and not TFM.

    As usual, we’re basing all our speculation on very skimpy reports, anyway, so who knows? Yes, they would use predominantly movie footage and insert Adam somehow, but he’d have to be present even to shoot CGI scenes. I can’t see a smokey scene with emergency vehicles befitting the concept of an upbeat dance-yo-ass-off single, but it fits the apocalyptic 2012 theme perfectly, and since less Adam footage would be needed for TFM than for a CD single, it would be relatively easy to shoot some quickie scenes to insert.

  105. I can’t even begin to keep up with all the Adam threads.

    Do they ever release a first single along with a music video? That would be my dream for Adam.

  106. What I miss, people? :)

    ETA: I do not think the video is for TFM, I think they will use stock footage. Maybe they will release the single along with the video, since he is such a visual artist. I don’t think TPTB need to wait for the album to come out first, do they?

    ETA2: I am not obsessive, just interested. ;) And it’s not just Adam fans who are Twitter-intent. As soon as Kris or Allison or Danny tweet, the fans come out of hiding. Obviously, Adam fans are eager for information: Kris released his single and Alli’s is out on Monday. If all of the producers/writers weren’t tweeting, maybe we wouldn’t be so intent on getting information. Twitter might be the devil, but it ain’t going away.

  107. I would think they would need a few shots of Adam to interweave with the 2012 footage for a TfM video. Is there any reason to think that Rolland Emmerich hasn’t told the crew exactly what he wants and sent them out? Or I suppose he could be there, who knows? (But most likely he would be more concerned with being involved with the editing stage) All they really need are a few shots of Adam walking dramatically through the smoke! I agree that the emergency vehicles and “medic” extras sounds more like a 2012 tie-in than a dancy-fun-shake-yo-ass music video.

  108. I agree that the emergency vehicles and ‘medic’  extras sounds more like a 2012 tie-in than a dancy-fun-shake-yo-ass music video.

    Yeah, Time for Miracles doesn’t sound like Strut, and in fact it is supposed to be more rock-athemic than electronica, right?

  109. The AINow announcement was, drumroll please- Live chat with Michael Sarver Epic fail

  110. The AINow announcement was, drumroll please- Live chat with Michael Sarver Epic fail

    Lol, don’t understand the need for a live chat when Sarver answers so many questions on twitter.

  111. There is just no chance that Rolland Emmerich would let someone else shoot a music video for a song that is in his movie ‘” prior to the release of the movie.

    I’d agree with you, Q3. Except maybe this is just his trusted 2nd unit guy getting some coverage he found missing. And Emmerich probably editing around the clock just to finish his movie. And so far, no Adam sighting. So maybe this is fix it in the mix filler they need for green screening Adam later or something.

    Chances are high they’ve changed aspects of the ending six times already. (Other than the Cusack doesn’t die part) And they probably haven’t tested. So maybe this is coverage for all the new endings, so they can make the video once they have a movie done.

    Or, something else…

  112. Yep, we get a live chat…just like Twitter only…live? WTF? Now if it was with Adam, Kris, or Allison, THAT would be news.

    ETA: Who said Adam is in the final shot(s) of the movie, even TFM runs over the end credits? This is not Adam video, as much as we’d like it to be. I see John Cusack riding, walking, etc. into the sunset as Adam’s song plays.

  113. Here’s a radio interview Ryan Tedder did this week. He talks about Idol (no mention of Adam, though), Simon Cowell, and “Already Gone” vs. “Halo.” He said that the only similarity between the two songs is the key they’re sung in and the tempo, and he blames the key thing on Beyonce, saying she dropped the key without his knowledge.

  114. stopthemusic
    October 3, 2009 at 2:41 pm
    Ugh ‘ ¦’ ¦. will people that do this please get some lives????? Pissing off people like this serves no purpose other than giving Adam fans a bad name.

    How is it that non-Adam fans always seem more ‘concerned’  about the so-called reputation of Adam fans than the actual fans themselves? Oh’ ¦

    I hope we get a song soon. Alli and Adam’s single on the same day would be amazing.

    LOL, I know, right ?

  115. anthrogeek
    October 3, 2009 at 3:19 pm
    Let’s see now. Adam is walking through a scene of destruction, singing about a Time for Miracles and looking forward with hope in his eyes.

    I think Adam rises up from the smoke and ashes like a Phoenix and sings about a rebirth of humanity and restoration of faith in mankind in a post-apocalyptic wasteland.

    Or’ ¦ his flaming headress fianlly set the drapes on fire.

    LOL, maybe the flaming headress is to blame for all the destruction!

  116. speaking of live chats when is the one with Adam and ONTD AI happening for winning the donors challenge or has it happened already. I may have missed it i don’t know.

  117. Here’s a radio interview Ryan Tedder did this week. He talks about Idol (no mention of Adam, though), Simon Cowell, and ‘Already Gone’  vs. ‘Halo.’  He said that the only similarity between the two songs is the key they’re sung in and the tempo, and he blames the key thing on Beyonce, saying she dropped the key without his knowledge.

    Interesting interview, he is smart to suck up to Simon Cowell, I don’t know about him batting 100 but he sure is one of the biggest executives in Europe, they are probably working on Alexandra Burke (last year winner of the x factor) right now.

  118. I hope we get a song soon. Alli and Adam’s single on the same day would be amazing.

    That would be lovely

  119. becausehelives
    October 3, 2009 at 7:55 pm
    speaking of live chats when is the one with Adam and ONTD AI happening for winning the donors challenge or has it happened already. I may have missed it i don’t know.

    I haven’t seen it either, but I don’t think we’ve missed it. If it happened, it would have been a thread on this blog, followed by 1000 comments! LOL!

  120. Let me see if I can summarize what I missed today. No real Adam news other than 2012 soundtrack at #69 (irony anyone?) Adam down to #2 (boo babs) and misc tweets that cause more confusion than anything. My takeaway from reading all you good people is: the backtedted dudes likely are laying down beats over Adam’s vox and spoke with him over the phone & Adam is in SoCal filming something that by all indicators (fog/smoke/avg neighborhood) to be spliced into a TFM video,

    I’m at the NY Rangers home opener so typing this on my phone. Is it sad that I’m checking MJs??

  121. Guys much more news from the girl who was at her grandma’s when shooting the video:

    # haha its like offically over now. sorry.. i didnt take a lotta pics cus i didnt kno. i just watched and walked around the setless than 20 seconds ago from web

    # @insomniac19 WOOOHOO5 minutes ago from web in reply to insomniac19

    # @renee_snyder yes i luv it ghahaha6 minutes ago from web in reply to renee_snyder

    # @briarswt “maybe im…. maybe im … ” or something7 minutes ago from web in reply to briarswt

    # @briarswt just in my opinion his voice sounds like it. but fine i take that back.. im searching the song right now cus he kept singing ..8 minutes ago from web in reply to briarswt

    # fine dont believe me.. but when that MV comes out.. youre gonna be like “o that laurasun girl on twitter wasnt lying at all!”9 minutes ago from web

    # LMAO im not lying! dude when you see teh MV and u see explosions and that car. and a mailman and a cute blonde boy.. ULL KNOW I WASNT LYING11 minutes ago from web

    # haha no cus my grandparents lived like RIGHT in front of the shooting so i was like “i live there” and they let me thru12 minutes ago from web

    # yeah i heard music but idont remember the lyrics. it sounded SOMEWHAT country rock but not really.13 minutes ago from web

    # @santabillie LOL i swear im not making it up. maybe thats why they chose this street cus its full of old asian people17 minutes ago from web in reply to santabillie

    # @lambfankathy lol whats HRH17 minutes ago from web in reply to lambfankathy

    # sorry ]= i have none OF him18 minutes ago from web

    # This was part of the video – http://twitpic.com/k602219 minutes ago from TwitterMail

    # haha i couldnt get a pic with him cus it was in the progress of him filiming lol21 minutes ago from web

    # OH BTW, i stood and walked like 1 or 2 ft away from him cus i was trying to get thru so i was like “hi excuse me” and he looked at me..24 minutes ago from web

    # @renee_snyder haha in that case!… OH I HAVE ANOTHER PIC25 minutes ago from web in reply to renee_snyder
    @laurasun adam just tweeted to tell us he shot the video today. You’re off the hook! :)5 minutes ago from web

    ok last answer.. yeah he had a little facial hair.18 minutes ago from web

    i feel bad now.. i didnt know adam lambert was really famous.. and i dont want to get sued for getting his mv leaked.. so nvm guys20 minutes ago from web

    @GChelsea haha he didnt have a full on beard but he was just wearing a lotta eyeliner and a trenchcoat oh and he had that emo hair21 minutes ago from web in reply to GChelsea

    started from 8 and ended just now. there were lotta explosions and there was a cute blonde boy extra that waved and smiled at me[just sayin]26 minutes ago from web

    btw, my sisters were standing in the front yard and some worker talked to them “hey you watch american idol? thats adam lambert right there”28 minutes ago from web

    LOL woah sorry guys! i didnt see those @laurasun stuff, well its done now. but its foreshure his music video30 minutes ago from web

    i just got back my my gma’s house from the temple, and theyre STill filming for adam lamberts mv38 minutes ago from web

  122. Another person lives near the video shoot:

    @kevin19204

    i have Adam Lambert shooting a part of the scene in my street and neighborhood for his newest music video.5 minutes ago from web

  123. If the alleged video that is being filmed today is really for Adam Lambert it could very well be for 2012….not as part of the movie (which is totally in the can and done) but for a video of the song only which will be used for the film promo on stations such as VH1 and online entertainment sites. This is often done with songs that become associated with a movie (see Armageddon and Steve Tyler) and the video is then part of the DVD package as a bonus feature.

    The possibility of Adam being in the movie is less than 1%….even though the song will be (from all accounts). And yes if their is a video of TfM it will probably also contain some scenes from the movie.

    something like this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo_0UXRY_rY&feature=related

  124. Adam tweeted our answers from today’s shoot:

    Shooting Time For Miracles Music Video!!!! Long day, but we are getting amazing footage!13 minutes ago from Echofon

  125. I see there are two threads going simultaneously discussing the exact same thing. . .

  126. 2012 is being discussed in the other thread. Adam tweeted it is the video for TfM.

  127. I’m amazed he lasted as long as he did at #1. I thought for sure that fan fueled purchases could net him maybe 2-3 days on top at most.

    Yes – and this is with very little PR (and no official interviews, etc.) As soon as any more news breaks for Adam (releases something, etc.) it will likely continue to stay high, I’m guessing.

  128. The whole UK album preorder is really odd. Amazon UK lists two albums — one releasing on 11/23/09 for £8.99 and one releasing on 12/7/09 for £11.99.

    Play.com (UK) has one album New Album TBA Adam Lambert (American Idol) listed Sale £8.95 RRP: £15.99 Pre-order. Due for release on 07/12/2009.

    It looks like the Amazon 11/23/09 listing is for the US version and the 12/7/09 release may be for a UK version. Because why would Play.com sell a deluxe album for only £8.95, their regular album sale price.

    But in any case, the Amazon UK release is 1 day earlier than the US release date.

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