The Voice 3 – Top 6 – Results, Recap, VIDEOS

Which TWO finalists will be leaving The Voice tonight! Hang out with us as 6 becomes 4…

Eliminated tonight:  Team Adam! Amanda Brown and Melanie Martinez

I’m disappointed that Amanda Brown was eliminated tonight, but not surprised. She was the best singer left in the competition, but we all know that a slew of factors determine who wins a singing competition. First of all–the guys usually have a built in advantage–the largely female voters love them.. So do contestants who are championed by the Powers That Be.  Cassadee is clearly the coaches fav.  But she’s got an uphill battle. She’ll likely make it to the final, but I don’t know if she can prevail against either Trevin or Terry.  Now that my fav, Amanda, is gone, I may go all Vote for the Worst and get behind the least marketable finalist.  I mean, what kind of album would Terry and his mullet release if they won? Ha.  I think I want to find out!

Adam and his sh*tty song choices helped to wipe out his team.  Sadly, that silly trainweck he handed to Melanie wasn’t a busing attempt. I almost wish it was, rather than total incompetence from Adam. But Melanie bears some responsibility too. She would have been wise to choose a tune she could sing on key.  She actually sounded fantastic on her duet with Nicholas tonight.  Ironically, she sang “Criminal”, a song Christina suggested for the quirky singer, after practically snapping her head off.   The poor girl made the mistake of zoning out during one of the coach’s FASCINATING critiques.   Oy. It makes me hate to admit that Christina was right! Honestly, Xtina.  And what the heck was up with that pink wig + space suit ensemble? Yikes.

Amanda. Sigh. Despite her superior vocal chops, I think she had a tough time connecting with viewers. I liked her, because beyond having a fantastic voice, she took risks and had an interesting musicality on the show. She was so much more than just a big ole belter. I think she would have made a fine winner and would be very marketable as a pop/rock/r&b singer. Now, the only really marketable contestant left is Cassadee. But like I said, it’s not going to be a cakewalk for her. Oh well, no matter who wins, The Voice is not equipped to develop the talent they graduate. As long as the ratings stay good, I don’t think they care if they do.

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Carson claims that the response to last night’s performance show was OVERWHELMING. But does not reveal details. First, a recap of last night’s show for those of you with short attention spans!

ASTRONOMICAL VOTING NUMBERS! Four artists were at the Top 10 singles chart. That would be Cassadee, Nicholas, Trevin and Terry. From now until the finale you can download a single iTunes performance 10 times and they will all count as votes. FINALLY BULK BUYING PAYS OFF. Still would never do that in a million years. SORRY.

Ne-Yo takes the stage to sing “Let Me Love You.” Amanda and Ne-Yo dueting is PRETTY DAMN FINE. HELLS YEAH.

Adam feels great about the song choices he made for his contestants! Hm. Will he say the same WHEN THEY ARE BOTH KICKED OFF THE SHOW TONIGHT? Cee Lo pushed his button for every contestant in the Top 10. Interesting. Blah blah blah, Cee Lo. Half the time I have no idea what he’s talking about. Oh, he mentions that Trevin blew him away. WHAT THE F*CK HAPPENED TO XTINA. That wig? and space suit thingy she’s wearing? NO NO NO NO NO. Christina is namechecking a few finalists. Not Melanie, though! Blake talks about the relationship he has with his contestants. Communication is the key, y’all.

Terry and Trevin perform the first duet of the night “Feel Again” by One Republic. This is an interesting combo. They could be the second coming of Ranking Roger and Dave Wakeling. Or not. I kid. That was actually a solid duet. I would not have expected their voices to blend well.

Ooooh. America voted! Who is safe. America has saved Terry McDermott from Team Blake!  Christina Millian interviews Rob Thomas of Matchbox Twenty. Blah Blah Blah.

Amanda and Cassadee sing Kelly Clarkson’s “Breakaway”.  Ohhh. That was a leetle pitchy, but still powerful.  Amanda is fantastic. I will be sad when she’s eliminated tonight. She pretty much blows Cassadee off the stage.

Time for more RESULTS!  Nicholas tells Carson that he’s really glad for all the farts. That’s one of the things he’ll bring away from his experience. Ooook.  America has saved…from Team Cee Lo…Trevin Hunte!

Rob Thomas and Matchbox 20 will sing “Overjoyed” with the contestants he mentored, Trevin and Nicholas. The two are fairly superfluous, only singing a line each on the bridge, and singing off-key backups. Maybe that off-key thing is the answer to why they aren’t singing much.

Now, a little video package starring the coaches and Top 6 imitating Cee Lo and Adam. It’s pretty funny!

More results! America has saved…Cassadee Pope. SHOCKING. Not.  After the break, Carson will reveal the first finalist who will be LEAVING the competition.

Melanie and Nicholas sing “Criminal” by Fiona Apple. Is Xtina happy now? Probably not. Nicholas sits at the piano. I hate to say it, but Christina was right. This song is a good fit for Melanie. They both sound good.

More results! The first person America is sending home is…Melanie Martinez. Nicholas and Amanda remain!  Which contestant will advance to the Top 4? Argh.  Let’s kill time with the coaches! Zzzz. Xtina…incredible journey blah blah blah. Blake thinks Nicholas will move on! Cee Lo gives Nick a little speech that sounds like goodbye. Adam is at peace. He assures Amanda that The Voice is just a one small beautiful experience in her career. America’s last save is NICHOLAS DAVID.

And we’ve got ourselves a sausage fest. Boo Yah! 

Sigh. Goodbye Amanda. You were the best.

Safe

  • Terry McDermott – Team Blake
  • Trevin Hunt – Team Cee Lo
  • Cassadee Pop – Team Blake
  • Nicholas David – Team Cee Lo

Eliminated

  • Melanie Martinez
  • Amanda Brown

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1638805698 Jason Scott

    AMANDA, pleaseeeeeee stay :(

  • fuzzywuzzy

    OK, it appears that Trevin’s AIATY did make it into the top 10 by the voting deadline. I think that means that there’s a very good chance that both Melanie and Amanda are leaving.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jnoodles Jonathan Frahm

    Are votes measured cumulatively or only weekly? If the former, I think we’ll see Trevin leave anyway. If the latter, this will be a very interesting night indeed.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1638805698 Jason Scott

    See, Amanda CAN be current. I thought that was great.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I had assumed that the vote totals were only for that week, but now that you mention it, I’m not sure.

  • http://twitter.com/tukicarreno Tuki

    Neyo with Amanda was AMAZEBALLS.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I’m realizing that SONG CHOICE is a huge factor when it comes to iTunes sales for a song. Really HUGE.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jnoodles Jonathan Frahm

    Yeah, I’ve heard different stories from different people and places these past few weeks and have wondered for a while. Carson should just be more obvious about it at the beginning of the live rounds! lol

  • Jordana33

    That sucks. That itunes top 10 bonus rule is so unfair at this stage of the competition. I’m guessing that Trevin will be safe. Even when his itunes sales are bad, he’s always safe, so I suspect he isn’t going anywhere…..

    Jonathan, the cumulative itunes votes only go towards the finale. So basically, if Cassadee makes the finale, I can’t see anyone beating her, even if all her finale performances flop. 

  • Jordana33

    Impartial coach, my ass!!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    How many sales does it take to make a top 10 by the deadline? 20.000? Multiplying it by 10 makes how many votes? 200.000? I don’t know if it’s a VERY decisive factor, TBH.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “From now until the finale you can download a single iTunes performance
    10 times and they will all count as votes. FINALLY BULK BUYING PAYS OFF.
    Still would never do that in a million years. SORRY.”

    Yeah, no matter how much I liked someone, I would never do the multiple buying thing.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    It’s hard to tell, but I think that it could be very decisive because the total votes are limited from any one person, unlike the unlimited voting on Idol.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I liked that duet.

  • Jordana33

    Oooh it looks like Terry can be current too!

  • girlygirltoo

    weekly

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1638805698 Jason Scott

    Terry is safe. That doesn’t bode well for Amanda…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NDYOWBIIPZU6PBRHGOPT2ZZJXQ sweetmm

    Carson spoilt himself “The 1st of Team Blake to move on”, of course its no surprise both will go on keh3

  • girlygirltoo

    supposedly iTunes doesn’t allow you to download singles multiple times (well you can but they don’t each as a sale, just the 1st one) so exactly how is The Voice getting away with this?

  • fuzzywuzzy

     “Blah blah blah, Cee Lo. Half the time I have no idea what he’s talking about.”

    lol Cee Lo seems to like to spout a lot of philosophical/existential BS most of the time.

  • http://twitter.com/ClaudeDee Claude Dee

    Watch Amanda Brown murder Cassadee Pope in this duet! HAH! 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    Now Cassadee is a powerhouse? LMAO;.

  • Nedsdag

    Why does Cassadee have to stay and Amanda is in danger?

    Life is not fair.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Cassadee isn’t sounding very good on this song, it’s too low for her and she’s pitchy. Amanda is sounding a lot better.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jnoodles Jonathan Frahm

    My prediction is that they’ll have 3 safe (Terry, Cassadee, Nicholas) after each duet and then 3 to toy with (Trevin, Amanda, Melanie) until the elimination.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    If Amanda is eliminated today, she’ll have at least this performance to prove how superior she’s as a singer compared with Cassadee.

  • http://twitter.com/ClaudeDee Claude Dee

    Didn’t Dez sing with Cassadee last week? Noooooooooooooooo. I hope my gut feeling is wrong. #cassadeecurse

  • http://twitter.com/ClaudeDee Claude Dee

    OH SNAP!!!! TREVIN IS SAFE. I CAN’T….. Uh oh, Amanda is in serious danger!!!

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Trevin was saved when AIATY made it into the top 10 on iTunes. Yuck. I think that this means that Amanda is toast.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    A very good singer who deserved to be on the Top4 will be eliminated today. It’s for sure.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/IYMZ43XMLLAE6RVHJS4M6KNC5Y Dennis

    I say this every week. lol

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NDYOWBIIPZU6PBRHGOPT2ZZJXQ sweetmm

    Yes its gonna be a great XMas with St. Nick going through ;)

  • http://twitter.com/ClaudeDee Claude Dee

    Truth is Trevin’s version of  AIATY didn’t even come close to Jessica Sanchez’s version. Ugh. And that Sunshine song was just ughhhh!!

  • http://twitter.com/ronnydias Ronny Dias

    Blake pointed Cassadee’s arm up in the air as a sign of giving herself completely to the performance. Since then, she’s done that countless times during her duet with Amanda. Might as well find herself some deodorant company as a sponsor!

  • http://twitter.com/ladymctech ladymctech

    Well the two I would have eliminated are through, LOL. Overall, it was a pretty good season on the Voice IMO.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    The contrast was so obvious. There really was no comparison. Amanda was so clearly superior in every way.

  • spycig

    Uh-oh, Xtina has Britney’s pink wig on…

    Yay Terry is safe and his duet with Trevin shows he can be relevant in todays market. Hopefully Cassadee is safe next – great duet with Amanda!

    I’m digging all the duets – the artists all seem really supportive of each other and they’ve worked together so that their voices blend well and they both shine!

  • http://twitter.com/Loretta31 Loretta

     I guess that silent none music buying fanbase does exist?  My oh my I now fear that Melanie and Amanda are going :(. 

  • thedeviledadvocate

    Boy was I wrong LOL. I had Terry and Trevin going home.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dieuhuong.pham Dieu Huong Pham

     i think maybe you delete the song and download it again, it will count as vote (up to 10 times). No more money though. I actually tried to buy a contestant’s song, delete it and download again (just an experiment!!).

  • steve2013

    With trevin through i guess im done as its probable going to be melanie and amanda going :( i dont think trevin got the bonus as he moved into top 10 after lines closed

  • http://twitter.com/ClaudeDee Claude Dee

    Who would buy a song 10x anyway? Oh… Cassadee’s cray cray fan base. 

  • Nedsdag

    So it’s Amanda and who going home?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NDYOWBIIPZU6PBRHGOPT2ZZJXQ sweetmm

    And this is why I listen to Matchbox 20 and not Maroon 5 :)

  • steve2013

    i looked at this list at approx 10.11 eastern and was #11 so it didnt

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Carson said that 4 artists were in the top 10 on iTunes: Cassadee, Terry, Nicholas and Trevin.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NDYOWBIIPZU6PBRHGOPT2ZZJXQ sweetmm

    10 sales equals 1 vote if I’m not wrong.

  • chillj

    I’m beginning to get a little upset; I think my two very favorite singers are leaving.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/IYMZ43XMLLAE6RVHJS4M6KNC5Y Dennis

    So I’m pretty sure they’re going to say Amanda’s leaving but I don’t wanna hear it :(

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I think that he must have just made it under the wire, or Carson wouldn’t have said that he did. If the list that you were looking at hadn’t been updated, then that would explain the discrepancy.

  • spycig

    Yep – even if I like an artist if I don’t like the song I don’t buy it, I just vote online and by telephone. If I like the song I download it but only once!

  • chillj

    Oh yeah!  I figured that when I wanted downloads from people not my favorites and restrained myself so not to pump their vote total.

  • Nedsdag

    I’ll watch the show for Terry and maybe Nicholas, but I won’t have a voting interest.

    Try selling Cazzzzzzadee Pope to mainstream music lovers.

  • http://twitter.com/ronnydias Ronny Dias

    My two favorite are still up for elimination. At least a 50% chance this is gonna be a sad night for me. :(

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NDYOWBIIPZU6PBRHGOPT2ZZJXQ sweetmm

    Yep we saw Trevin at #9 but this guy has the silent votes so who knows he might be able to topple Cassadee in total votes.

  • steve2013

    he made top 10 after voting lines closed so yes he was top 10 but i dont think he got the itunes bonus.

    Amanda’s stars made top 10 im sure that was mentioned aswell but because dropped out at time of closing she didnt get the bonus

  • genius13

    I’m 95% sure Amanda is leaving :( …she was the only Voice contestant that I ever voted for

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Ah, OK, that makes more sense.

  • http://twitter.com/ronnydias Ronny Dias

    The pairing of Melanie and Nicholas’ voices really worked! 

  • steve2013

    if thats the case im done for the season :( as she was the only one i really really liked

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I liked that duet. Odd pairing, but it worked somehow. lol

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NDYOWBIIPZU6PBRHGOPT2ZZJXQ sweetmm

    I sound like a broken record but I’m gonna say it again; I loveeeeeeeeeee the result day show.  The entertainment value is great!!!

  • http://twitter.com/ClaudeDee Claude Dee

    this is cray!!!

  • kcostell

    Why don’t they just eliminate the middle man?  Put a link on the voice website where you can enter a number of votes and your credit card number, and get charged $1.29 per vote.  

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    Trevin definitely has the silent votes that Jermaine had last season. I would like see Trevin winning right now. As much as I’m not a fan, his victory would be a nightmare to TPTB and a good punishment for the fact they tried to push Cassadee so hard.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    10 sales equals 1 vote if I’m not wrong.

    Every source I can find says that 1 sale = 1 vote. Here’s coverage from the LA Times music blog. Some people are presumably buying the same song 10x — gifting would get around the iTunes thing where it doesn’t charge you for later downloads, and presumably fanbases know about gifting by now.

    Then the 10x bonus for being in the iTunes top 10 during the correct window is on top of that.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I would rather Trevin win over Cassadee because he’s a better vocalist (even if he would not be as commercially successful).

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I would rather Trevin win over Cassadee because he’s a better vocalist (even if he would not be as commercially successful).

  • http://twitter.com/ClaudeDee Claude Dee

    I need a miracle!!! I hope Amanda did well than Nicholas in the text/landline votes.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    I like Amanda but I’m rooting for Nicholas. He’s better, IMO.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    I like Amanda but I’m rooting for Nicholas. He’s better, IMO.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/IYMZ43XMLLAE6RVHJS4M6KNC5Y Dennis

    With all the pimping of Cassadee I would rather anyone win than her.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/IYMZ43XMLLAE6RVHJS4M6KNC5Y Dennis

    With all the pimping of Cassadee I would rather anyone win than her.

  • http://twitter.com/ronnydias Ronny Dias

    OMG! That’s my finale, right now!
    Either one will be missed and the remaining one will be who I’ll be rooting for!

  • http://twitter.com/ronnydias Ronny Dias

    OMG! That’s my finale, right now!
    Either one will be missed and the remaining one will be who I’ll be rooting for!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NDYOWBIIPZU6PBRHGOPT2ZZJXQ sweetmm

    Nah I want a female winner; if it has to be Cassadee to cock-block the sausage feast, I’ll take it :)   

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NDYOWBIIPZU6PBRHGOPT2ZZJXQ sweetmm

    Nah I want a female winner; if it has to be Cassadee to cock-block the sausage feast, I’ll take it :)   

  • beanowl

    I am holding my breath, but preparing to completely rage out and flip my table when Amanda gets eliminated.

  • Nedsdag

    I’d rather have a sausage fest and I don’t eat pork. :)

  • http://twitter.com/Loretta31 Loretta

    Good Luck Melanie, you truly moved me with your unique haunting voice, interesting phrasing and all you look.  Seven Nation Army is my fav itune from a singing show.   Please put out a cd.  I am buying.

  • http://twitter.com/ClaudeDee Claude Dee

    This is stressful!!!! Let it be Amanda!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    I couldn’t care less if it’s man or a woman. I don’t root for a gender but for singers that i like.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Crap. Not surprised though. It totally sucks that Amanda is a such a superior vocalist compared with Cassadee.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NDYOWBIIPZU6PBRHGOPT2ZZJXQ sweetmm

    Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssss ST NICK, we are having a merry XMas!!!

  • http://twitter.com/Loretta31 Loretta

    What upsets me the most about this is Xtina ochastrated it.  She tried to sway to Blake and Ceelo and succeeded.  :(  

  • beanowl

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

    RAGE!

  • http://www.facebook.com/dieuhuong.pham Dieu Huong Pham

     I think of it the other way: Trevin has a strong silent votes and he is at the top every week, so TPTB tries desperately to put a female singer to win to avoid 3 in a row – that would be dead for the show. In that case, I have no choice to root for Cassadee, at least with her irritating voice she’s memorable. Trevin is, I have no word…

  • Nedsdag

    This sucks! Cazzzzzzzzzzadee cannot sing.

  • steve2013

    Not suprised but sucks that the best singer there doesnt even get to the final :(

  • http://twitter.com/WiltedYouth Tomas

    BLERGH.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/IYMZ43XMLLAE6RVHJS4M6KNC5Y Dennis

    BOO… I knew it, damn itunes I don’t like counting itunes as votes anymore. lol

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Melanie and Nicholas sing “Criminal” by Fiona Apple. Is Xtina happy now?
    Probably not. Nicholas sits at the piano. I hate to say it, but
    Christina was right. This song is a good fit for Melanie.”

    Yep. Christina was dead on about that.

  • chillj

    You took the word right out of my mouth.  I’m glad Nicholas is still there, I was becoming concerned, but I would like the best vocalist to stay and Amanda was the best.

  • http://twitter.com/ronnydias Ronny Dias

    Letting Amanda perform with Neyo, out of all the contestants, plus her duet with Cassadee, was a pretty obvious sign she wouldn’t move on.

    It’s really a pity she couldn’t make it to the finale!

    But, then again, life goes on.

  • twodollars

    Carson needs to learn how to stop going over the hour on results night. 2nd week in a row that I’ve had to come online to see who was saved. Love that Nicholas made it through.  Bummed that Terry made it through over Amanda, but I am loving the fact that Team Adam was eliminated. Adam needs to be brought down a couple of notches. His smugness was getting old.

  • Nedsdag

    Well, America, after watching them sing together, does anyone think that Cazzzzzadee is worthy of a recording contract over Amanda?

  • fuzzywuzzy

    That’s a good point. Christina really promoted Trevin by talking about how she wanted to take him on tour, as well as gushing over Cassadee. Yuck.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    “Safe
    Terry McDermott – Team Blake

    Trevin Hunt – Team Cee Lo

    Cassadee Pop – Team Blake

    Nicholas David – Team Cee Lo”

    MJ, you wrote Cassadee’s name wrong. You missed an “o” on the middle of her last name.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/IYMZ43XMLLAE6RVHJS4M6KNC5Y Dennis

     I don’t think Adam has been smug this season, if anything Christina’s had the messed up attitude this season.

  • chillj

    Itunes tips us off every time.  The eliminations are not a surprise, probably even to the contestants, who likely spend the night checking iTunes.

  • genius13

    Fuuucccckkkk…oh well..Amanda had a good run and was vocally superior to everybody else…. Even trevin…and she gave IMO one of the best performances of any singing show with Dream On

  • twodollars

     Yep, I hope Shakira and Usher pick up on that for next season. Current songs or cool older songs seem to do well on iTunes. The diva songs from the 1990s and earlier seem to struggle on iTunes.

  • beanowl

    I am quitting TV forever.

    And by “forever,” I mean “until tomorrow night,” when the X Factor comes on and I can vote 50 times for CeCe purely to spite the producers. 

    Both shows got rid of their best singers :(

  • Valentin432

     You weren’t singing the same tune laast year when it was Juliet in the finale.
    At that time you were all for her getting the pimp spot and trying to get an advantage over the male contestants and their fangirls.

    It’s the same every year.
    Maybee Cassadee has a shot because of the itunes downloads.

    Not surprised females are elminated when they don’t sell a whole lot more downloads than their male counterparts, that’s par for the course.

  • twodollars

     Oh please. Christina doesn’t have enough fans to orchestrate anything. If she did, her entire team wouldn’t have already been eliminated. 

  • girlygirltoo

    boo! the only one of the top 4 I’m interested in hearing anything from is Nicholas.

  • chillj

    I think the problem is songs that have been overdone on these shows; big ballads are almost definitely a no-no, unless it is a JHud big ballad that no one can sing.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NDYOWBIIPZU6PBRHGOPT2ZZJXQ sweetmm

    I wanted Amanda to win this but as it has been obvious she’s not going anywhere there; I’m rooting for the contestant which could make it in the industry AFTER the show ends.  

    I think at the moment Cassadee might just do it; she is not an awful singer and it will be great to see TVoice winner charting the billboard :)  Loving the four finalists with the exception of Trevin, wishing it was Melanie for the diversity effect.

    I’m hoping someone in the industry grabs Amanda and help to mould her and re-package to suit what the current music scene wants.  It will be a shame to bury that beautiful voice.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1638805698 Jason Scott

    The winner of Season 3 will forever and always be Amanda freaking Brown. Bam!

  • Nedsdag

    Not a CeCe fan by any means, but I understand the sentiment.

  • Patrick Sean Durante

    Team Blake win repeat, please!!!!

  • chillj

    I used to find Carson a little stiff, but I really like him now.  He has a subtle and subversive sense of humor.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    You’re still trying to compare Cassadee with Juliet? Sorry, but I won’t discuss this with you anymore, I’ll rest my case here.

    ETA: it wasn’t last year, but last season ;)

  • twodollars

     Adam’s been smug as heck this season. He’s gotten pretty cocky. I am not liking the way he talks to the audience. Christina’s attitude is much better than last season, but she could still use an attitude adjustment.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I agree. I also think that my perspective on hosts has been readjusted by Khloe lowering the bar to below ground level. lol

  • twodollars

     I like Carson as a host. He’s just having problems bringing the show in on time and my DVR keeps cutting it off right before I find out who the last person voted off is. Drives me crazy.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SU7UNBSIUNAVV7BKI5OXLSVMTM John

    How ironic is it that on a show called THE VOICE, Amanda gets sent home during the Top 6

  • chillj

    The problem with Cassadee is that if she were going to make it in the industry, she likely would have already.  

  • beanowl

    Oh, that was the point, though. I don’t think CeCe is a very good singer (better than most average people, but not good enough to deserve a future in the industry). I think she’s a trainwreck and I’m so pissed at the producers for bussing Vino that I think CeCe should win this season, just for the entertainment value and to make the producers rage.

  • twodollars

    If a judge was smart, they’d get a list of every song that was sung multiple times on AI, the Voice and XFactor and make sure to not pick those songs. No one wants another cover of a Mariah, Celine or Whitney song.

  • Valentin432

    Read again, you were saying that gender doesn’t matter for you, it did last year, you were arguing over gender imbalance and making the case for Juliet not winning because of gender.

    If you want to say you don’t care anymore that’s fine, but that wasn’t true last year.

  • kcostell

    It wasn’t just that Amanda wasn’t selling more than the four finalists.  It’s that she was selling MUCH less than the finalists.  Even assuming no fangirl voting whatsoever, she was going to go out.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Pietro-Matos/100000170166826 Pietro Matos

    lol i’ll vote for Cece too only to piss off simon and his crappy factor,

  • alonzo7

    Didn’t watch the results show tonight-didn’t want to see Amanda get eliminated-all my votes go to Cassadee-was hoping for an equal chance for the girls but not again this season.

  • chillj

    I don’t think Mario is stellar in this venue either, but it must not be easy with another person stepping all over your lines.  If someone had offered me that gig, I would have had to think about it; a reputation is a terrible thing to lose.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I agree about Mario not being his best, but I cut him a lot of slack because of having to put up with Khloe and her inability to keep her hands off of him. Ew.  lol

  • Valentin432

    Both Mélanie and Amanda were selling a lot more itunes downloads than the guys for the past 2 weeks, that’s why they were safe.

    Guys have won or been safe even when they sold less than their female counterparts, that’s been clear for the past 3 seasons.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SU7UNBSIUNAVV7BKI5OXLSVMTM John

     Add 5 minutes to the recordings, that’s what I do for all my shows

  • twodollars

     I don’t know if that is true or not. Her band was in a type of music that hasn’t been selling all that well now for years. This show gives her a chance to remake herself as a country/pop artist and she’ll likely get to open for Blake on his next tour. I wouldn’t be shocked to see her be the first Voice contestant to have serious success post-show.

  • twodollars

     I’d guess that Melanie was in 5th position with Amanda in 6th. Melanie’s iTunes sales were much stronger than Amanda’s and had Melanie had a stronger night last night she may have landed in the top 10 sending Trevin home.

  • genius13

    I would like to pose a question to everyone on here…do any of you all think that the 3 guys are left are even remotely marketable?? Nicholas is grossly unmarketable… Trevino could theoretically try to be a Ruben 2.0 but I don’t think that would work and Terry is boring as hell…Cassadee is the most marketable and she will be getting my votes.. The Voice had 2 other contestants that were marketable but they were….ahem…eliminated.. Smh

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    Your argument sounds kinda personal, for whatever reason. I said that I don’t root for a specific gender which’s different from giving a pimp spot for someone who deserves it, in the case a female called Juliet Simms. There’s no contradiction. I’m not gonna argue with you anymore. c ya.

  • twodollars

     I would but I have two other shows I watch at 8 pm so I can’t go long on this show.

  • chillj

    I think Amanda could make it in the industry.  All she needs is a Knock Your Socks Off song, something like early Whitney got.  These contestants never get really good songs (with the exception of PP and that was a miracle).  All it takes is a really excellent song.  Jermaine got dance music and he doesn’t even dance!  They fulfill the contract.  Barely.

  • kmd23

    I like the top 4 except Amanda should have stayed and Cassadee should have left. I really don’t care who wins as long as their name is not Cassadee. lol. I know she is probably going to win this but you can still hope for the others to do well.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/IYMZ43XMLLAE6RVHJS4M6KNC5Y Dennis

    I know ppl think Trevin can win this season because he has that silent fanbase like Jermaine from last season but last season itunes votes didn’t count. With itunes votes being a big part of voting now, he’s not going to win. If itunes didn’t count I think Trevin would win because he’s like the winners in the past but since Cassadee dominates itunes all the time she’s going to win unfortunately.

  • chillj

    I think Nicholas is very marketable; he is excellent and he is very unique.  Many people never thought the audience would vote for him at all, but they did.  In this case, talent wins. I believe Trevyn and Terry are harder, for different reasons.

  • supersonic

    I haven’t really been watching this show.  But I have been rooting for Nicholas.  Even voted for him last night so I am glad he made it through.

    Have to crack up at Team Adam getting the boot at the same time.  I’ve never liked Amanda or Melanie in the first place.  Especially Amanda.  She has been cocky, picked Adam as her coach and got cockier.  It must be him.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    No, I don’t think that any of the guys are marketable. Maybe, Trevin is the most, but even then, it won’t be easy. Yes, Cassadee is the most marketable contestant left (despite being a mediocre singer), and that’s why I think that show/label are trying like heck to get her the win.

  • chillj

    I actually think Nicholas can do better than any of them.  His voice is totally different.  Trevyn is going nowhere unless he develops his image; he needs to lose weight to appeal to his own demographic:  old folks don’t care, but… Terry is a whole nother problem, because he is so retro:  he needs a band, but I say that about everyone.

  • http://twitter.com/ronnydias Ronny Dias

    As much as I am upset for Amanda leaving, tuning in on X Factor at this point would be a harsh punishment to no one other than myself!

  • angiedb

    I am pretty happy with this top 4. Not really a fan of many female singers, so 3 guys and a girl are just fine by me. I don’t look for any of them to become big stars unless The Voice decides to actually do some hardcore marketing. I will gladly check out anything Nicholas or Terry do after the show. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/IYMZ43XMLLAE6RVHJS4M6KNC5Y Dennis

     When was Amanda cocky just like the other person who said Adam was smug like when did any of this happen?

    I know one person who was smug and annoying and that was Christina. I’m sorry I still can’t get over terrible Christina was this season. lol

  • chillj

    The problem with Cassadee is her sound; she sounds like everyone else out there and they do it better.  She can sing, but she has the same problems as everyone else on the show – and having been already around the block is a bit of a problem.

  • Wellworn

    Last night I voted for Amanda and Nicholas.  So sad that Amanda is gone before 3 others that are inferior to her.  I never understood the Melanie love because she can’t stay on pitch but she was ok in Criminal tonight, more style than substance.  She is young and has time.  I hope that Adam does something for Amanda.  There is a place in music for her.  Nicholas FTW!

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I think that Nicholas is distinctive and unique, both his image and as a vocalist. Maybe, he could be marketed, but he’s not going to be the big commercial success that the show/label wants.

  • Jordana33

    Probably the most boring final four I could pictured out of the top 12. Done watching for this season. 

  • bahogbugan_simj

    i agree, if by marketable you mean getting commercial/mainstream success, i’m not seeing it with any of the guys

    maybe Nick can get a niche audience which IMO is a good thing for a decent music career

  • girlygirltoo

    No…but I don’t think Cassadee is all that marketable either. She is very generic. What does she bring that will make her stand out from all the other artists out there who have the same sound as she does?

  • fantoo1

    Wasn’t Trevin top 10 in iTunes this week?

  • fantoo1

    She has said many times that she is not a country singer.

  • twodollars

     Well, she can discuss that with the record exec after she wins. We’ll see if she is more successful than many of the AI winners have been. Her country songs are selling better than her pop songs.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TBRH25QFXTK5JOPE4HX7FBI5PE J

    Sad to see Amanda go. I hope Nicholas wins it all.

  • http://twitter.com/desireechick Kesia Monteith

    I never understood where some people saw smug or cocky with Amanda. More like people trying to look for something to dislike, really.

  • durbesque

    I expect that Cassaddee will win and have a smattering of a career, similar to the lesser Idols.  Her voice next to Amanda’s sounded colorless and unpleasant.  The only one at all interesting to me is Nicholas.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/IYMZ43XMLLAE6RVHJS4M6KNC5Y Dennis

     Yes I believe he made top 10 in itunes and that’s why he made it. If itunes didn’t matter so much this season I think it would be an obvious win for Trevin.

  • http://twitter.com/ronnydias Ronny Dias

    It looks as though Cassadee makes an effort to sound like the singer she’s ‘portraying’ at the time (specially if it’s Avril Lavigne), as opposed to Melanie, who took songs from various performers and made them sound pretty much the same, not bringing out her different colors, except for her duet with Nicholas tonight (and too late).

  • http://twitter.com/desireechick Kesia Monteith

    …Bam!…Bam! (In memory of Cody)

  • Jordana33

    Cassadee isn’t as marketable as they would think, and this is coming from someone who likes her genre of music. In addition to not having the stage presence to pull off pop or pop rock, she sang nearly all of her songs exactly like the original, which makes me question her abilities to stand out as an artist. I have the same problem with Terry, who showed no originality.  Melanie, Amanda and Nicholas generally made a much better effort to put their own spin on things, which is what made their performances always fun to look forward to. 

    The Voice can argue that their last two winners weren’t marketable, but UMG also made no attempt to market them whatsoever. I’m not crazy about Jermaine at all, but they definitely dropped the ball with Javier and tried to push him into an R&B box, which he isn’t. 

    BTW, I think it would be hilarious if all their efforts backfired and the final two consisted of Terry and Trevin.

  • fantoo1

    There’s nothing country about her. She makes Taylor Swift look country.

    And judging from the show she came from, I doubt she will be successful-the post show handling of the contestants on this show suck.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NDYOWBIIPZU6PBRHGOPT2ZZJXQ sweetmm

    Yep pretty pissed of at Adam for bus-sing Melanie; if she gets a better picked song (which she is not uncomfortable with) she could edged out Trevin for that Top 10 slot.  Adam could give her better advise on her chosen song too; that’s what coaches are for.

    Adam played it wrong; he sacrificed one to push another and in the end both bites the dust :(

  • Whatiswrongwithus

    Did Adam just lose 2 of his contestants in one night? Ouch! That must hurt his ego lol! Well, if anyone joins the Voice, remember DO NOT go with Adam!

    And does this show normally have double eliminations as well like X factor? Gosh, they are cutting down contestants really fast when they have singing competitions in the fall huh??
     

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/IDXVM7NCMXZVHX4M2RFBYOTYDA Robert

    I don’t know what is worse Amanda getting booted or Christina trying to make herself the center of attention the last two nights.

  • tamens

    Considering that I don’t like any of the top 4, it’s time to take the Voice off the TIVO.

  • http://twitter.com/cheeseE1 EH

    Can we have Adam and Christina pick the songs for Teams Blake and Ceelo next week so we don’t have to hear Foreigner, Avril, and Katrina and the Waves again?  

    Terry has sounded better on Plain White Ts and One Republic than most of the stuff they pick for him (or that he picks for himself). I wish he or Blake would notice this. He kind of sounded like Bono at times tonight. 
    Sad to see Amanda and Melanie go – my top 4 probably would have been those two plus Nicholas & Terry.  Amanda was awesome with Ne-yo.

  • Listening

    Okay I’ve got to say this b/c i’ve been thinking it for a while. I’m annoyed that Christina doesn’t seem to care that her acts are gone. She seems giddy about it the way she goes on about  how now I can just sit back and enjoy the show, yippie. She has also said my job is done I can just watch everyone else. WHAT! Are you kidding me why you so proud, was your job to get your acts eliminated first. Well Mission accomplished you excelled at your job w/ flying colors. If I was one of her eliminated acts i’d be ticked off by her care free happy attitude.

    Anywho I didn’t care who went home b/c I have no emotional connection to any of these acts.Occasionally I see someone do a nice performance or have a great one like I felt trevin had w/ I’m Telling You. It’s like admiration and enjoyment w/ no substance. I just don’t feel a connection to the individuals.  I need more from these acts.

  • Jordana33

    I liked Melanie a lot, but it was clear that she had one of the weaker voices in the top 12. However, she made it to the top 6 by picking good current songs with excellent studio recordings and changing the original to suit her voice. Even if people didn’t like her two top 6 songs,  I can’t criticize her prior song choices because they suited her style and got her a lot of downloads. Adam was a really good match for her and I’m not sure she would have gotten this far under another coach. 

    Am I the only one who thought that Xtina already knew that Melanie would be performing that song with Nicholas prior to “suggesting it” last night?

  • Listening

    Anywho I didn’t care who went home b/c I have no emotional connection to any of these acts. Occasionally I see someone do a nice performance or have a great one like I felt Trevin had w/ I’m Telling You. It’s like admiration and enjoyment w/ no substance. I just don’t feel a connection to the individuals. I need more from these acts.

    I just dig the X- Factor contestants more. There I had my favorites that I truly rooted for, most of them are gone. But at least I was invested in them.

  • emlz

    I know Amanda’s a great vocalist but I only voted for her in the past when I liked her song choices. Last night was not one of those nights. She’s like a Jessica Sanchez for me. Technically great, but lacking that thing that will make me a fan and vote for her even on an off night when I know she’s in danger of going home. I can’t really explain it. 

    As for who’s left, I think Nicholas might be pulling away from everyone now for me. I love his voice, and if you just told everyone to sing any random note, I would gravitate towards his voice first. His range is a problem for me, but I think it all just comes down to how one defines a great voice.

  • Da 1 N Only

    With all the similarities between Amanda & Tamyra Gray, I should of seen this far too early departure coming a mile away. 

    If they are smart they will give her more time to perform on filler filled Tuesdays until this season ends. I know, not happening.

  • l. g.

     I would have to disagree.  I like Nicholas and believe he is the most talented of the top 4.  However, he is not marketable and would never be successful commercially.  Nicholas fits into the Contemporary genre and that is a very niche market.  Nicholas reminds of a Christmas album singers.  I’m in my forties and Nicholas is too “old’ and mellow even for me.  I could see maybe buying a song of his that I like, but never a whole album or attending a concert.  The only one that had cross-genre appeal and versatility that would be commercially successful is Amanda Brown, and she just got eliminated.

  • http://twitter.com/ronnydias Ronny Dias

    It’s no secret I wasn’t a fan of Melanie’s. But that didn’t keep me from enjoying some of her performances.

    That being said, IMO, had she been as adventurous with her style
    (performance and wardrobe wise) as she was with some of her song choices
    (which has got a lot to do with Adam, since it was never too clear who
    actually picked the songs trhoughout the competition, for all contestants),
    maybe she would have been in Cassadee’s position: the only girl in top
    4, since they both had good itunes rankings.

  • mtlfan2

    I’m glad that Nicholas made it. He’s pretty much the only one I’m interested in in the finale although I’ve liked Terry quite a lot earlier but seemed to have lost some appeal since the last 2 shows. Sorry to see Melanie goes; she’s 17 and I like her artistry; I’m interested to see how she will evolve 

  • 1rollbounce2

    Wow, Amanda is gone?  I have to watch it – or maybe this blog info is adequate.  hmmmm

    So much for the ideal Nicholas /Amanda final…I look forward to the Tina Turner Wildest Dreams II tour, featuring her protoge – AMANDA BROWN!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Peggy-Smith/1301860006 Peggy Smith

    You are right about that. Trevin should have gone and Amanda should have stayed.  I still like Terry and Cassidee best though. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Peggy-Smith/1301860006 Peggy Smith

    It is great seeing another Team Blake fan here.  Either one can win and I will be happy.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Peggy-Smith/1301860006 Peggy Smith

    I was in a gifting thread for AI former winner, David Cook’s music, for overseas fans where his music was not yet available. If you buy a single and download it twice, they will then allow you to buy again.  Or if you buy as a gift and follow the prompts you can buy multiples, but you have to have e-mail addresses for every copy you purchase.  Just Sayin’.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Peggy-Smith/1301860006 Peggy Smith

    10 sales = 100 votes.  Each sale counts as 10 votes.

  • verov

    Now Bam-Bam is gone, I can’t be bothered to watch the show, but based on previous performances and the video uploads here, Amanda was robbed.
    Thrilled Nicholas is still in it – he has been my fave since the blinds – he may not be mass marketable, but I’ll buy what he’s selling (as long as he isn’t endlessly re-hashing golden oldies). Love his voice.
    But Cassadee (who can’t sing in tune) and Trevin and Terry (who can, mostly, but have lousy taste in songs/bad coach choices) for the other finalists????? Predictable but disappointing.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Peggy-Smith/1301860006 Peggy Smith

    I bet a lot of people said that about Christina Perri too and look where she is now.  I think Cassidee would fit comfortably in Alt Rock, Soft Rock, Pop Rock, and even crossover country.  Not everybody enjoys the constant belting, big voices and like to have a choice. I do love Amanda’s voice, but I think she way over-sang Here I Go Again.  The lyrics call for a split between softer singing and a little bit of belting in keys parts.  She belted almost all the way through.  

  • bahogbugan_simj

    US X-Factor contestants generally suck save for a couple.  i also don’t know how i can get invested with anyone being burried under an obnoxious production.  i’ve had more appreciation for acts in UK (current season not included because it’s awful) and Australia.

    heck i found myself more invested in Holland, Germany and Korean contestants (be it X-Factor or The Voice) even if i don’t understand what the heck they’re talking about

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Peggy-Smith/1301860006 Peggy Smith

    Go to your settings for the Vice and set it to record for an extra 2 – 5 minutes.  Or record the show immediately after.  That solved that problem for me.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Peggy-Smith/1301860006 Peggy Smith

    How can you say that?  The girl is only 18.  Give her a break.

  • http://www.facebook.com/shander.maxwhite Shander Maxwhite

    Wow , lol .. I hit the fast forward button about 60 seconds into Matchbox 20.. boring …but thats only for me.  I’m glad you like it… we can all have different tastes and music that people connect with is a great thing.  Not all people need to connect to the same music to make those songs a great thing

  • iluvai

    I loved Melanie’s quirkiness, voice and style. I never felt like she was a gimmick. She seemed very real to me. I also loved Amanda, that girl should still be on the show.

  • http://www.facebook.com/shander.maxwhite Shander Maxwhite

    I’m 100% fine with less people finding Melanie worth voting for than the others.   I also have 7 of her songs on my phone and really am enjoying them and I’m very very happy about that.  I’ll be listening to her down the line.

    Once you’ve been introduced to the country and a fan base,  the last few weeks of exposure mean  very little exept perhaps for a top-40 crowd of people who don’t know who they like and like to like what other people like.  Now,  I’m not saying that more people don’t like the winner,  but their staying power isn’t really increased by where they finish.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    supposedly iTunes doesn’t allow you to download singles multiple times (well you can but they don’t each as a sale, just the 1st one) so exactly how is The Voice getting away with this?

    That is correct and The Voice isn’t an exception.

    Gifting campaigns don’t make a huge dent either when you are talking about trying to get the song into the top 10, or in Cassadee’s case, at number one. If gifting worked, we would see more Idols in the top spot, or at least the top 10, when their singles were released.

  • durbesque

    I was driving, and searching for a clear station, landed on a country station.  Heard a girl singing “Last Christmas, I gave you my heart”.  Sounded exactly like Melanie Martinez.  I’ll look up the song.  After these people graduate, it all depends on the song.  Ask P2.

  • http://www.facebook.com/shander.maxwhite Shander Maxwhite

    It makes no difference that Crystal Bowersox came in second instead of first on American Idol.  Crystal has an amazing voice, has written some very good songs and will be able to support her family singing  going forward,  even if it does come back around to singing in cafe’s and living in very modest home.  Home is where the heart is. She could have come in 3 or 4 th instead of 2nd and it wouldn’t have mattered.

    The question I might have, is what percentage of people who voted for Lee Dwyze still listen to him compared to what percentage of people voted for Crystal Bowersox ?   The results are fair.. no complaints.. but if people don’t like the artist enough to follow them in the future.. well like I said… finish position isn’t important.. it is how much the people who like you really like your performances enough to want to hear more and more and more.

  • girlygirltoo

    so then why do they tell you you can vote 10 times on iTunes if only one of those votes actually counts? I’m confused :

  • girlygirltoo

    I disagree, the odds of having a career that is commercially successful are increased if you win or at least finish 2nd on these shows. That doesn’t mean you can’t make a living as a working musician if you finish 6th or 7th or whatever, as there are dozens and dozens of examples showing that you can do this. 

    But you are far less likely to get the type of promotion you need to get radio play and to sell a bunch of albums if you don’t finish in the top 2. On rare occasions an artist can overcome this or will get great promo anyway despite not finishing in the top 2, but it is very rare.

  • http://www.fatladysings.us/ TFLS

    Amanda was my hands-down favorite.  With her gone, there’s no one else I can really get behind.  Cassadee leaves me cold.  Trevin’s all over the map.  Terry has one helluva a voice…but all the personal appeal of a small plastic soap dish (sorry, but it’s true).  That leaves Nicholas; who’s interesting as all hell – but isn’t someone I’d buy music from. Oh – I’ll tune in and watch him perform any time.  He’s funky, the music he chooses suits him…..but that’s about it.  Poor Amanda.  I was all for her and the gay cowboy (Cody was da bomb!).  Both gone.  So far, The Voice doesn’t have a brilliant track record with its artists.  Oh well.  It beats X-Factor all to hell.  Give me Cee Lo and wacky Xtina any day.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    I am too! lol
    I thought they said an iTunes download would count for 10 votes IF the artist’s song made it into the top 10.

    Do all these contestants really have that many fans that are willing to shell out $13 every week on the same song? Damn! I’ve never supported any artist on any show that much, and never will!

  • http://www.facebook.com/jnoodles Jonathan Frahm

    WOW. Nick was PHENOMENAL with Criminal. 

  • hcpoirot

    Its already a prove formula that a singing competition based on votes specially in America favors male singers . The power of intense voting from mom and grandmom.

    This season is the best example. From 3 male singers left, its safe to say none of them will get tons of teenagers votes.

    Terry,Nicholas and Trevin all sing oldies songs majority from 90s and below. But they still alive in this competition and move to top 4.

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    I agree with you, except Christina has been acting goofy lately.  Amanda should have been in the final 3.

  • http://twitter.com/Loretta31 Loretta

     Very very true, One only need to look at Chris Daughtry to know what you say is true. 

  • http://twitter.com/Loretta31 Loretta

     Again we agree.  When Kris won Idol I was thrilled and thought yeah he has won over a lot of fans.  Alas much to my dismay that was not
    the case.  Kris seems so happy now maybe everything has worked out
    for the best for him.  IMO some or many people who watch singing shows have no intention to buy the music.  Their vote has less to do with (again in my opinion) how awesome they think the performer is and more to do with how much they mirror their values. 

  • http://twitter.com/Loretta31 Loretta

     My daughters after last night have no interest in watching the Voice. The teenagers loved Melanie and my 20 something Amanda & Melanie.

    They claim they won’t be watching next week.   I will watch

  • Kirsten
    supposedly iTunes doesn’t allow you to download singles multiple times
    (well you can but they don’t each as a sale, just the 1st one) so
    exactly how is The Voice getting away with this?

    That is correct and The Voice isn’t an exception.

    According to Billboard (who works closely with SoundScan), that is not true. They addressed this question a few years ago in their chart beat section and here is what they said:

    Buying a track two times would count as two sales. There could be a number of reasons you would want to buy the same song twice (maybe you want to have it on 10 different computers). However, if you were to buy a track, let’s say, oh, 800 times, that would be considered an anomaly and would not count. So it’s not possible to rig the charts by buying the same track an exorbitant amount of times. The same has always been true of physical records as well.

    I know someone who purchased several hundred copies of the same CD single a few years ago to give out as gifts, and was surprised to find out that sale was not counted for the charts. I explained to her later that her sale must have been considered an anomaly, and possible chart-rigging, although that wasn’t her intent. Perhaps if she had purchased 10 singles each at 80 different stores she would have made an impact on the charts, but I don’t think she had the time or energy.

    http://www.billboard.com/news/chart-beat-chat-1003657899.story (Buy Buy Buy)

    Gifting campaigns don’t make a huge dent either when you are talking
    about trying to get the song into the top 10, or in Cassadee’s case, at
    number one. If gifting worked, we would see more Idols in the top spot,
    or at least the top 10, when their singles were released.

    Gifting campaigns don’t work because there aren’t enough people willing to waste their money to enrich record labels. I still think most people are reasonable on this matter, but I wonder if The Voice hasn’t developed a convincing argument to get people to bulk buy.  Some people go to great lengths to help their favourite win (some have switched telephone companies or purchased burner phones that come with a texting plan, some have downloaded VOIP programs such as skype, etc).

    Buying a couple of extra copies of a single might seem reasonable  to some since they are vote restricted in other ways. Add in the fact that your vote can count for ten times its worth (it’s like buying 100 singles!) if enough people join in and I think you create a perfect storm. The Voice wasn’t getting this kind of reaction last year on the charts when it didn’t have the 10 times multiplier.

    I bet if they cut either the voting limits or removed the top 10 iTunes bonus you’d see a lot less reaction on the iTunes chart.

    BTW IMO This sausage-fest of unmarketable singers clearly indicates that vote limiting does not improve the voting patterns of singing show viewers, so let Idol have its fun with the big numbers.

  • Trina

    Well with Amanda gone I really dont care who wins anymore. I too may vote the VFTW way and vote for the least marketable..but really, I dont see how Terry is any less marketable than Nick. Nick may more talented but both are just so dated. Can you honestly see the label pushing Nick or spending a lot of money on him to market him? Unless they give him a massive makeover he isnt all that attractive. I dont know if Cassadee has what it takes to go on to be a bigger star than Jermaine or Javier but I can certainly see why on paper TPTB feel shes their best shot at doing ok after the show. Its all a crapshoot.  And its not like being an amazing singer is a requirement for success. All she would need is some good marketing behind her and a good song to get out there. Just look what a good song did for the reigning AI winner who also isnt the best singer. YMMV.

  • jga94

    I agree with you regarding Terry…I thought he sounded great in the duet with Trevin…

  • jga94

    I beg to disagree….Terry inferior to Amanda?They are different so you can’t compare. If you compare the two on technicalilites, I’d say they are even….if you compare the two just based on tone, I prefer Terry’s pure tone….Trevin IMO is actually better than Amanda but just too young and inexperienced…his tone is richer than Amanda’s.

    I like Nicholas as well…he reminds me of Elliott Yamin….so full of soul.

  • Jordana33

    supposedly iTunes doesn’t allow you to download singles multiple times (well you can but they don’t each as a sale, just the 1st one) so exactly how is The Voice getting away with this?

    That is correct and The Voice isn’t an exception

    I thought the Voice was no exception until yesterday, when I tried downloading Amanda’s song more than once and got charged both times. Of course, I foolishly thought it was a mistake, so I tried again and now I have three paid copies of a Whitesnake cover (LOL). However, if I were to download another copy outside the voting window, I wouldn’t be charged. 

    The bottom line is that the Voice has arranged for itunes to charge for additional downloads completed during the voting window. Not only are they encouraging fans to bulk buy, but they’re also providing a clear advantage to contestants who have older fans, or fans from a higher socioeconomic bracket, who can afford (or are overinvested enough) to download 10 copies of their favorite songs. I find the whole thing unethical.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    According to Billboard (who works closely with SoundScan), that is not true. They addressed this question a few years ago in their chart beat section and here is what they said:
    Buying a track two times would count as two sales. There could be a number of reasons you would want to buy the same song twice (maybe you want to have it on 10 different computers).

    That’s great, except maybe Billboard didn’t foresee iTunes changing its download mechanism in the past year or so? These days, if you try to buy a song you already own, iTunes will tell you to just download it again without paying.

    Or maybe Billboard did anticipate this, since wanting the same song on 10 computers would at that time of its reply have required two iTunes accounts. Buying it twice on one account would have limited it to the same five computers authorized to that account. But the 10-purchase Voice limit is on a single iTunes account, not a limit that a person can have only 10 iTunes accounts (not that having 10 iTunes accounts wouldn’t be a recipe for madness, in itself).

    Gifting would still let a single iTunes account get to 10 purchases, anyway. And the article’s good about explaining where bulk purchasing anomalies kick in.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “The bottom line is that the Voice has arranged for itunes to charge for
    additional downloads completed during the voting window. Not only are
    they encouraging fans to bulk buy, but they’re also providing a clear
    advantage to contestants who have older fans, or fans from a higher
    socioeconomic bracket, who can afford (or are overinvested enough) to
    download 10 copies of their favorite songs. I find the whole thing
    unethical.”

    I agree. And since the number of votes per person is limited to 10 by each method (iTunes, text, phone, online), then it’s not like the people who don’t have the means/desire to download 10 copies of a song have a way to compensate for that by increasing their voting by the other means. It certainly doesn’t provide a level playing field for the voting (not that the label/The Voice cares).

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “I bet if they cut either the voting limits or removed the top 10
    iTunes bonus you’d see a lot less reaction on the iTunes chart.”

    I agree.

    “BTW IMO This sausage-fest of unmarketable singers clearly indicates
    that vote limiting does not improve the voting patterns of singing show
    viewers, so let Idol have its fun with the big numbers.”

    I think that the time for changing the voting system in the hopes of getting a different kind of winner have long since passed. At one point, when the viewing/voting demographic for Idol (since this is the oldest show) was represented by a more diverse demographic, then it could have made a difference, but now, the winners ARE representative of the favorites viewing/voting demographic. Until that demographic changes significantly, there’s little that these shows can do to change the type of winners that they have. The only thing that’s keeping Cassadee at the head of the pack is the fact that she came on the show with a rather large, rabid online fanbase. Whether that will be enough to get her the win is debatable at this point, but clearly the “bonus” iTunes rule and the willingness of her fans to multiple buy her those “bonuses” has given her an advantage over the guys for the moment.

  • jga94

    I am glad Terry and Nicholas are still in the running.I find it funny how dismissive some people get about this two because they aren’t supposed to be marketable. This is a TV show….people vote for certain contestants because they like them…not because they think that certain person is marketable or can achieve success post-show. So if a viewer connects with someone they vote for them, simple as that….that’s probably why these two are still there…they are consistent to who they are…and they seem genuine about the type of music they sing (well except for that awful September number of Nicholas).

    What level of success they achieve after the show depends on so many things besides being pushed by the label….I mean who would have known that Scotty McCreery or Philip Phillips would do well after the show…so many were dismissive of them as well…weren’t so many people saying P2 was just a second-rate Dave Matthews and Scotty a trying-hard Josh Turner…and Scotty hardly changed up any of his songs (he sang mostly country songs and sang them the exact same way) so what gives.

  • jga94

    Do they release the duets on iTunes as well? Feel Again is FANTASTIC. Oh wait, Terry sounded great in this One Republic song….this isn’t a classic rock song is it?

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Scotty and P2 are simply doing what most of the other Idol winners have done in having good commercial success after coming off a TV show where they were exposed to 15-20 million people over the period of months. After that kind of exposure, it’s not unreasonable to expect the winner to have some fairly decent level of commercial success right off the show. The track history of Idol, however, shows that even winners/contestants who can have really good commercial success right off the show can see that success dissipate rather quickly, a fact that only becomes apparently when the alum releases their sophomore album. IMO, it’s still far too early to claim that Scotty and P2 have overcome this pattern.

  • tucker davis

    I’ve never watched the Voice but did listen to these videos to see who they were. The first thing I noticed was (and this isn’t going to sound nice): these finalists are a bit lacking in the looks department! I know it’s suppose to be all about talent, but does anyone deny that looks surely help you to sell! Thinking back to AI’s top 10… ANY of those have these folks beat hands down. I know it’s superficial, but it’s the way of the world! BTW, I did like Nick’s voice.

  • http://twitter.com/cheeseE1 EH

    It’s that whole “blind audition” thing.  The cute guys got cut, so I guess no one can accuse the Voice voters of basing anything on looks. 

    I think Cassadee could sing pop country, but I don’t like her as a pop/rock singer at all.  She’s the winner so hopefully they’ll figure it out. 

    Trevin is good, but he seems less contemporary than the last two winners and that’s not a step they want to take.

    Terry has been signed to a label with a band that sounded nothing like an 80s cover band and seems to be a decent songwriter based on a couple of YouTube videos I checked out.  His stuff at least sounds like British rock from the 90s, heh. Not sure why he doesn’t show more variety on the show, but I partly blame Blake for not really having a great grasp on most genres of music. I think he would have had a better run with Adam as his coach. But yeah, 30-something dad with a mullet is maybe not going to make it as a solo artist. 

    Nick is cool and I could see him having doing club tours or something and have some modest success in his niche. 

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    I find it funny how dismissive some people get about this two because they aren’t supposed to be marketable. This is a TV show….people vote for certain contestants because they like them…not because they think that certain person is marketable or can achieve success post-show.

    Well, and the difference between “what voters like” and “what the label believes is marketable” is why label staff look at the field, wipe a tear, and order another bourbon on the rocks. There’s a real tension between the two. 

    Labels go into these deals because they think they’re getting winners they can make money from, not because they’re over-staffed, bored, and want a challenge. (The big challenge from Voice S2 was who could lose Jermaine Paul’s phone number for the longest period without having him physically show up at their office.) 

    What’s gotta be roasting Universal’s goat is that while it’s possible to make a quick buck off Idol winners because they usually sell nicely on the first album cycle — no matter what falls apart on the second (as fuzzywuzzy points out) — the Voice-watching audience seems to have barely any urge to buy any new music from the show’s alumni.

    That doesn’t mean the “non-marketable” singers aren’t lovely, talented people who deserve to be heard by people who’ll appreciate them. It just explains why TPTB for The Voice would be frantically looking up bus schedules. I don’t entirely buy that Cassadee Pope is super-ultra-marketable, but I could be just feeling rebellious about having had the concept shoved at me so many times.

  • http://twitter.com/happylittlefish Amy Beth

    MJ, It’s interesting that you think Adam’s choice’s doomed his singers. I think CeeLo’s choices were much worse. I swear he chose them while he was high on cold medication! Neither Melanie nor Amanda made the Top 10, but both their songs charted much higher than Nick and Trevin’s 2nd songs.

    I think the difference is that CeeLo’s dudes have more devoted voters who will also pick up the phone and go online to vote. 

  • Kirsten

     

    Scotty and P2 are simply doing what most of the other Idol winners have
    done in having good commercial success after coming off a TV show where
    they were exposed to 15-20 million people over the period of months.
    After that kind of exposure, it’s not unreasonable to expect the winner
    to have some fairly decent level of commercial success right off the
    show

    The Voice kind of proves this is not true. While they may not get 20M viewers, even scaling the viewers does not explain the pathetic results.

    There is a little more going on than just viewers.

  • http://twitter.com/Loretta31 Loretta

     Also Blake helped oh so much by giving one of his and Amanda’s songs to sing.  This brought in their fanbases to add to her’s.  No one left is country.  Only Cassadee has a country flare.  She could easily be country-pop in the Carrie Underwood mold.

    It will be interesting to learn her song selections for next week.  If they are country or countryish lights out boys.

  • chillj

    I think viewers look for different types of vocalists in contests, as opposed to what they buy for music.  People know stellar voices when they hear them, but if they don’t put out appealing product, they will not buy them.  It is also important to have a “signature” voice, which helps explain the success of artists like Ceelo, who don’t exude pulchritude, just talent.

  • Jordana33

    People keep saying that Amanda and Melanie were eliminated because Amanda didn’t connect with viewers and Melanie had a terrible song choices. However, if you go to you tube pages and other sites that cover the voice, Amanda, Melanie, Cassadee (and even Dez to a certain extent), were generally the most “popular”, with the most online “traffic”. Amanda had even started to overtake Cassadee in a number of different polls, which suggests that she did connect with viewers. And as much as I complained about Amanda’s non-current song choices, Terry’s choices were even more outdated, IMO.

    I really think the huge disconnect in voting and perceived popularity, had a lot to do with the itunes rules, which placed limitations on fans who didn’t have the luxury to pay for tons of covers. It’s no coincidence that Amanda, Melanie and Dez all attracted younger fans (especially the latter two). With viewers getting more and more invested in their favorites like Terry and Nicholas, I think The Voice will have to go into maximum overpimpage to get Cassadee into the finale, because her fans might also be younger.

    Of course, biggest whole in my itunes theory is Trevin.  His sales haven’t been that great and he usually lags far behind Amanda in most popularity polls, so his survival is a little baffling. Perhaps he’s least likely to split votes with other contestants? It’s reminiscent of Jermaine Paul, who was seemingly unpopular, but still won. I always attributed his win to a series of lucky flukes (a surprisingly good finale performance + Xtina-Adam drama + Juliette Sims having larygitis). But maybe Jermaine and Trevin just have a very large internet-silent fan base!

  • Kirsten

     

    That’s great, except maybe Billboard didn’t foresee iTunes changing its
    download mechanism in the past year or so? These days, if you try to buy
    a song you already own through the same iTunes account, iTunes will
    tell you to just download it again without paying.

    They probably didn’t. But can’t you still gift? And The Voice has gotten them to circumnavigate that for their voting window. As mentioned, the limit is there for physical sales as well.

    I find the selection of 10 votes to be interesting (other shows allow 12). Fred also uses that amount. I bet SoundScan reporting requires anything more than 10 from the same person to be reported as one and that was part of the reason for The Voice selecting 10 as their limit (to remind viewers to switch accounts so that they can brag about how many units their singers sell. Remember all those articles about how Javier was a massive seller and Scotty was a big old loser because Javier sold more in-season singles than Scotty completely ignoring that Idol doesn’t report in-season sales except for the last week? Good times).

    Anyway, the show is doing an excellent job of training its viewers to buy product and buy in bulk. I wonder if it will last until album release? Better to get those albums out quick though, because I suspect crazed voters stay crazed voters and they might be too broke from voting next season to buy previous season’s product. Not that The Voice cares, though.

  • chillj

    There are a wealth of unattractive male singers; think Pit Bull.  Jagger.  Dylan.  Jay Z. Eminem.  They may have sex appeal(except for maybe Dylan), but they are not attractive.

  • chillj

    Maybe they feel those that download from Itunes are also the most likely cd buyers and they are trying to develop that market.  Overall, I agree; Itunes skews the vote.

  • chillj

    I don’t think he can be a big time successful pop singer; he is simply too old.  But he might give someone like Buble a run for his money, because he has a much better voice.  I would buy Nicholas’s cd in a second if the music on it was sophisticated enough.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Yes, that’s true, but I was using Idol as an example because of it’s longevity and, with the schedule and promotion that appear to be ‘standard’ for their winners, the formula generally seems to work well for immediate commercial success right off the show. The Voice doesn’t have the same level/length of exposure for its contestants and a different format that doesn’t allow the voting public to have the final say about the contestants until relatively late in the show, and I think that (as well as the focus on the judges) creates additional issues that detracts from the contestants. I still maintain that for Idol winners, it’s not unreasonable to expect a fairly decent amount of commercial success right off the show, and that has proven to be true for the most part. It’s an amazing advantage for anyone trying to break into the business, and for better or worse, the Idol alums cannot be put in the category of “new artists” who did not have this background.

  • justmefornow

    lol. I think you were being kind in the looks department comment. I don’t watch this show either, but check out the videos here as well.
    Wow, what a sad group!

    Here’s the thing. If these shows want to still stay on the air with somewhat decent ratings, don’t fight the current demographic that still watches these shows.  Just go with it and be thankful someone does still watch.  Fancy judges and gimmicks aren’t going to change this. That younger demographic in general doesn’t give a sh*t and thinks these shows are a joke.

    Change the prize to MONEY ONLY!
    This way there will still be an incentive for people to try out, and no label is forced to pick up an unmarketable winner that won’t make them any money. Also, everyone on the show has the national exposure to hopefully help their careers, and in this show’s case, a lot of second chance people who obviously couldn’t make it the first time around (maybe they just don’t have “IT”?).

    In the end, if a label sees someone they like and wants to take a chance, they could always sign them afterwards if they like.

  • chillj

    I wish a band of some sort would pick up Terry.  Badly.  He needs excellent original songs and a new style.  If he got them, he would be golden.

  • Trina

    Not only do those artists have sex appeal, but they are viewed as ‘cool’ because of their music. No you dont have to be attractive to make it big, but you have to have something. Frankly when I watch Jay-Z. Eminem (and *especially* Pitbull) i find them to be smoking hot. They have stage presence. 

  • getaway1

    Scotty and P2 are simply doing what most of the other Idol winners have done in having good commercial success after coming off a TV show where they were exposed to 15-20 million people over the period of months

    But the commercial success of Scotty and Phil was hardly expected.   They were both constantly dismissed as one note copy cats who sang the same song over and over again.  Lest we forget those now infamous doom and gloom predictions:  If Phillip Phillips wins, he will completely destroy the AI franchise and will sell worst than Lee Dewyze.

  • http://twitter.com/1outside Maj

    So, here we go…Amanda is out. She was my favourite female in the competition but I could see her “auf” coming. The thing is…even though I loved her performing and vocal skills I can’t say I ever really connected to her voice. Or her personality (compared to Michaela, Cody or Nicholas). She’s pretty, sexy and sassy when performing, she’s a rock chick, but unlike say Alison I., Haley R., Vicci M. or Juliet S., her voice never really appealed to me that much. I even felt a bit bad about that. While I rooted for her on the show I don’t think I’ll be following her after this.

    I usually love the rock ladies on these shows but this year my two favourites (Amanda would be no. 3) were Nicholas and Cody. Nicholas because of his voice, the way he performs and because of his attitude and personality, and Cody…because of Bam Bam. Was he The Voice? Nope. But I don’t feel bad for enjoying him on the show at all. And Nicholas, IMO, is The Voice of this season for me. Cass’s voice is not unique, ditto for Terry (whom I like a lot too, btw…he’s probably my no. 4 fave in the whole thing this year) and Trevin (maybe it’s coz I’m European or because I’ve seen way too many of these competitions but to be blunt…all black male singers are starting to sound the same to me). Anyhoo…Cassadee will probably win, and it’s just as well, because she’s a female. We want a female winner, right?

    When you say “voice”, for me it’s not about technicality of the singing, it’s about what the voice does to me… If you put Leonard Cohen, Whitney & MJ next to each other, my “Voice” would be Cohen, even if he half-recites his songs. That’s how I interpret this competition – it’s not called The Best Techical Singer – and I guess, even if I’m not 100% happy with the final 4, they do reflect this.

    As for the commercial viability of the artists after the show…I could care less. As long as they don’t starve to death & manage to put out good music, I’ll be happy. Very few people from the American shows make it in Europe at all anyway. So the US success is not really something I’d care for too much. I get why it would be good for the show but for me personally, it doesn’t matter. I do want them to do well and do what they love…but mainstream success doesn’t necessarily bring that either.

    Oops, sorry for going on for this long. :)

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I think that you mean “Miranda”, but I see your point. However, I don’t think that Cassadee is at all “country”, but is being as malleable as possible in trying to optimize her chances of winning.

  • Kirsten

    Yes, that’s true, but I was using Idol as an example because of it’s
    longevity and, with the schedule and promotion that appear to be
    ‘standard’ for their winners, the formula generally seems to work well
    for immediate commercial success right off the show. The Voice doesn’t
    have the same level/length of exposure for its contestants and a
    different format that doesn’t allow the voting public to have the final
    say about the contestants until relatively late in the show, and I think
    that (as well as the focus on the judges) creates additional issues
    that detracts from the contestants.

    I think we are agreeing. It’s more than just the number of viewers that make Idols the success they are (and, at this point, Idols are expected to be successes for their first albums. They are the honour role student of generating stars. The other shows are in C- students if not in remedial programs. Nashville Star actually produced a lot of stars, but years later).

    It will be interesting to see if the “buy-their-song” training and Idol-style eliminations The Voice is using this year will generate more success.

  • suenigma

    I think people are really underestimating Terry. Some of us jaded singing show afficianodos may find his song choices boring, but he’s a smart guy. He is picking songs that tap I to that silent, non-Internet trolling demographic – and men. My exhusband was over visiting the kids, and he stopped dead in his tracks and asked who Terry was. He loathes singing shows, but was blown away by the purity of Terry’s voice. The last two rest shows have proven to me that he can sing contemporary music (he would sound great on a Mraz song, or the Killers, Oasis, maybe Muse) but I kinda get why he’s making the choices he is, even if it’s frustrating.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Well, I expect a certain amount of commercial success from any Idol winner and that has proven true for the most part. Whether or not having Lee and P2 win Idol is good or bad for the premise of the show as a singing competition, or whether either of them are the kind of artists who will establish themselves beyond their Idol fanbases is debatable and different issues, but anyone having a good amount of commercial success appears to make the producers/labels very happy and gives Idol bragging rights in this area over the other two shows that claim to be singing competitions.

  • chillj

    How about Will I Am?  I think anyone passionate about his/her music exudes sex appeal, but there are singers who do not have it (usually male):  Buble,etc.

  • tucker davis

    Yeah, I started to add in my post…you needed to be cute or sexy (or both)! And Dylan became popular when it was popular to look different & anti-everything…lol.  You could add Lil Wayne to your list (from my neck of the woods)! How about this: to sell today, you need to be cute or sexy or write filthy lyrics. I don’t like this philosophy either! I might add that I loved it when Adele broke on the scene and just stood there with pure talent and blew us away (and I do think she’s cute as a button)!

  • Kirsten

     

    I think people are really underestimating Terry. Some of us jaded
    singing show afficianodos may find his song choices boring, but he’s a
    smart guy. He is picking songs that tap I to that silent, non-Internet
    trolling demographic – and men.

    I think some of us are jaded because we’ve seen too many contestants like Terry who are “going to bring music back” and “appeal to the man who walks through the living room while the show is on” to believe he will have any more success than the dozens who have preceded him.

  • http://twitter.com/1outside Maj

    I listened to one of his (ex?)band’s songs on YT the other day & it sounded very Radiohead meets Oasis. Since Muse used to be compared to Radihead at the beginning & The Killers are Oasis fans he could totally get himself out of the 90’s sound and be current-ish. I definitely agree with that. 

  • http://twitter.com/Loretta31 Loretta

     Thanks Fuzzy, I did mean Miranda whoops.  I do not think Cassadee is all Country either.  My point was will they ie Blake stear her country for the finale?  I think TPTB and Blake know steering Cassadee countryish will be her best chance of a win.  I also happen to believe it would be her best chance of commerical success after the show.  We shall see.

  • suenigma

    Hah! I didn’t say he would be really broadly successful after the show – Rock is dead, baby! – but I think he can win this thing. And if his own music is any good he can carve out a niche career. Objectively he has the best, purest rock voice coming from one of these show in a long time. I respect that he’s not posturing by “changing it up” or breaking out the guitar to show what an artist he is. It’s a karaoke competition – and I think he gets it. IDK

  • http://twitter.com/Loretta31 Loretta

     IMO Off Key Lee and Phillip should not even be mentioned together or compared.  P2 may not have had the biggest voice or the most range but he did have a unique sound and an artistry. 

    I can see Scotty and P2 compared because even though they are not in the same genre both have that charm and star quality that draws people in.

    So so many people who know I am an Idol junky but do not watch themselves have come up to me and said wow I saw Phil Phillips on this or that show, or heard Home during the Olympics etc and have said how good he is how adorable, etc.  A few have asked me to let them know when he tours.  This has not happened before with my beloved Cookie, Kris or even Adam. 

    Something about P2 resonates with the masses. 

  • http://twitter.com/desireechick Kesia Monteith

    “I’m European or because I’ve seen way too many of these competitions but to be blunt…all black male singers are starting to sound the same to me”

    Then you and many other people watching these kind of shows need to open your minds and ears more outside the confines of a singing competition. There is so much more to a black singer than he/she just throwing in runs between verses.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Yeah, on The Voice there’s the added influence of the judges’ fanbases and engaging them to support the team members of the judge. Like Blake having Cassadee sing “Over You’ (currently #65 on iTunes) was a great strategy because that performance was highly supported by the fanbases of both Blake and Miranda. That’s another area that skews the votes for contestants for reasons other than a voter supporting the actual contestant.

  • justmefornow

    First of all Rock is not dead. I won’t go into that redundant argument again, lol.
    Second, it’s a subjective, not an objective opinion of Terry. IMO, he is an average rock singer; weak thin voice, limited range, inability to sustain a power note, boring performer, no stage presence or charisma, etc. I could go on and on. These are just basic elements that separate the average from the even good rock singers. He is just average.

    Most evident however is the guy’s age and the fact he’s been around for a while in other bands and still hasn’t broke big. Why? 
    Maybe because he just isn’t that great. 
    He is ok for a karaoke singing show, but not in the real world.

  • Kirsten

     

    Hah! I didn’t say he would be really broadly successful after the show –
    Rock is dead, baby! – but I think he can win this thing.

    Fair enough. I’m not sure he can win, but I didn’t think Jermaine had a chance of winning last season, so my predictive powers on this show aren’t great.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    According to Billboard (who works closely with SoundScan), that is not true. They addressed this question a few years ago in their chart beat section and here is what they said:

    That was a few years ago. Itunes has changes that option.

    It looks like the Voice has some type of agreement with iTunes where you can buy 10 copies of the same song during a certain time frame. The same policy is not in place for songs outside of this special agreement.

  • suenigma

    Well, for one thing, I’m a Rock fan, and my comment was tongue in cheek. Lol. Rock may not be dead, but it sure as Hell isn’t getting played on popular radio. My 12 year old told me Rock has no melody, unlike the dance music and dubstep that he listens to, and I quietly wept. We’ll have to agree to disagree about the quality of Terry’s voice. Oh, and which new rock bands out there are breaking big these days? Lol. Hardly a fair criticism.

    Like I say, i’n a Nick fan, not a Terry fan, but the guy is very good, even if he is a dash generic.

  • mjsbigblog

    The girls are at a disadvantage in these singing shows and need every advantage they can get, including great song choices. The boys can get away with more.

    Also, Trevin and Nick both hit it out of the park with their personal song choices. Melanie and Amanda not so much.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    But if that rule only applies to Voice contestants, and each download is counted as an individual sale, then aren’t the sales totals inflated by a factor of 10? Is there some compensation for this in the charting of these songs on the iTunes single chart, or not? If not, then the ranking of the Voice songs is misleading, and unfair to the songs of other artists who don’t have multiple downloads count as individual sales.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    They probably didn’t. But can’t you still gift? And The Voice has gotten them to circumnavigate that for their voting window. As mentioned, the limit is there for physical sales as well.

    Yeah, that’s why I expected gifting as the get-around (and a reasonably clever one, since it spreads the music to other ears, though no guarantee that said ears want to listen) until Jordana33 shared her experience of iTunes just changing the purchase rules for The Voice during the buying window. ETA: And yeah, I agree the limit has to do with what Soundscan will accept.

    Anyway, the show is doing an excellent job of training its viewers to buy product and buy in bulk. I wonder if it will last until album release.

    Exactly! ITA that if TVPTB feel a need to manipulate the system, they need to shift the schedule to getting the first new-music release out fast. Give us a new song as the final-round show-stopper, release it as the first single — and then, since there’s no tour, get together an EP of new music quickly and get it out there for the slow rise of album sales in mid-February onward.

    Since it’s only an EP and there’s no tour, the schedule’s not insanely brutal for winners that the label actually wants to develop properly as artists — and it’s a lot more practical for the ones the label wants to exploit and forget (Jer… Jer… what was his name again?).

  • Kirsten

     

    That was a few years ago. Itunes has changes that option.

    It’s not an iTunes policy. It’s a Soundscan policy.

    As you note, you can bulk buy Voice songs during the voting window. These will be reported as 10 sales. They are not reported as a single sale as is widely rumoured over the internet.

  • Kirsten

    But if that rule only applies to Voice contestants, and each download is
    counted as an individual sale, then aren’t the sales totals inflated by
    a factor of 10?

    That presumes that everybody buys 10 copies. I don’t think they do. many will just buy 1 while others probably buy more than 10 (over multiple accounts). We’ll probably never know the real numbers.

    But, yes, I have not doubt that it does inflate the numbers that would normally be sold.

    Is there some compensation for this in the charting of these songs on the iTunes single chart, or not? If not, then the rankings of the Voice songs are misleading, and unfair
    to the songs of other artists who don’t have multiple downloads count as
    individual sales.

    But you can’t do multiple downloads to a single account for other songs so they truly have only a single sale. Although the numbers (and correspondingly, rankings) are inflated for Voice contestants because people can buy multiple copies, they do fundamentally represent a unit sold. They did sell that many copies. iTunes just didn’t protect the buyer from “accidently” buying the same song twice. They let them totally waste their money and pay $1.29 to vote.

    There are cheaper ways to get around the vote limitations, but getting their “special snowflake” in the top 10 on iTunes gets a 10x bonus and a special mention….so, that encourages many to pay to vote.

  • Jordana33

    I think people are really underestimating Terry. Some of us jaded singing show afficianodos may find his song choices boring, but he’s a smart guy. He is picking songs that tap I to that silent, non-Internet trolling demographic – and men.

    ITA. Terry is definitely the dark horse of the competition. The downside is that in spite of his terrific voice,  he’s the least marketable of the top 12 IMO for several reasons: 1. His taste in music is very outdated….there isn’t a great market for 80s style rock, unless you’re a well-established 80s band  2. He’s boring to watch..there’s just no flair! and  3. Unlike most male rock contestants, he rarely deviated from the original, which generally made his performances less memorable (and also makes me question his “artistry”). 

    I know many won’t agree, but I personally find Nicholas a lot more marketable than Terry. For starters, he has an interesting flair that makes him stand out and he rarely parrots the original songs. Lastly, his song choices may seem dated, but I still think there is a bigger market for his style of music.If anyone’s interested in Nicholas’ original music, there is a lot of it on itunes under “Nicholas Mrozinski”. Below are links to his You tube page and homepage, which includes free downloads:

    http://www.thefeelin.com/

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_3t0dwVbUc

  • http://www.etsy.com/shop/AdorablyHooked Gwen

    So glad to see Nicholas survived another week.  I’d by Melanie’s album in a heartbeat.  Amanda…meh.

  • Jordana33

    This is probably the most posts I’ve ever seen on a Voice thread! I guess their new format of having longer live rounds and more performances has worked in terms of getting viewers more invested in contestants. Let’s see if that translates into more album sales!

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “But you can’t do multiple downloads to a single account for other
    songs so they truly have only a single sale. Although the numbers (and
    correspondingly, rankings) are inflated for Voice contestants because
    people can buy multiple copies, they do fundamentally represent a unit
    sold. They did sell that many copies. iTunes just didn’t protect the
    buyer from “accidently” buying the same song twice. They let them
    totally waste their money and pay $1.29 to vote.”

    I realize that, but then doesn’t that make the Voice contestants’ iTunes song rankings a potentially misleading measure of their true popularity (ie. the most individual people who would buy their music)? It makes me wonder if iTunes doesn’t filter the sales for the Voice contestants’ songs and pass along the actual number of individuals who bought each song and how many they bought. There must be some computer algorithm to analyze/filter this data. lol

    “There are cheaper ways to vote, but getting their “special snowflake”
    in the top 10 on iTunes gets a 10x bonus and a special mention….so,
    that encourages many to pay to vote. ”

    Sure, and I agree that this is the motivation for the 10x bonus, but the people viewing iTunes charts who don’t know the “details” of the special circumstances surrounding the sales of the songs by the Voice contestants could easily be mislead to believe that the chart ranking are actually comparable to the non-Voice artists’ songs who they appear to ranking with.

  • justmefornow

    I agree about rock not being on pop radio, that’s why I don’t listen to it. Pop acts come and go, what’s hot now won’t be in a few months. It’s like Kleenex disposable music, lol.
    But there’s plenty of good new rock out there. I like Papa Roach’s new album, Halestorm, and check out Mark Tremonti from Alterbridge new solo album. Lots of heavy guitar, pretty good too.

    (As for kids;  I got lucky with on of my three kids, my youngest is a big Rock/Metal fan and a hell of a shredder on his Les Paul. *Proud Mama* :)

  • suenigma

    Fair comment. I myself perceive Nicholas to be an artist, and Terry to be a singer. Just to be fair though, I’m going to go check out some of Terry original music too.

    I wonder if the contestant’s would be allowed to break out some original music next week? That would be cool for all except Trevin. How hilarious would be for Cassadee to sing a Hey Mondays song?

  • suenigma

    Heh. My boys used to be Rock Fans too – their first concerts were AC/DC and Greendqy – but Middle School has corrupted them. My youngest is a Bieber fan. Sigh

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    I’ll give
    you Nicholas, but in season 10, the only one in the top four who was a true
    looker was Haley. Durbin was overweight with his gut hanging over his pants,
    and had bad teeth and hair. Scotty was compared to Alfred E. Newman and had
    some really odd stage mannerisms. Lauren was repeatedly referred to as having
    weight issues and her fashion, hair and make up choices were terrible. Since
    that time, they have all improved in the looks department in various ways.

    It’s not like AI has always presented the best looking
    contestants in their top four. There have been plenty of overweight guys like
    Trevin on AI. Ruben, Jacob and Michael Lynche are a few that come to mind. Some
    top four Idols who lacked something in the looks department as far as the
    standard Katy Perry, Beyonce, Usher type lookers: Josh Gracin, Kimberly Locke,
    Ruben, Clay, Diana, Fantasia, Bo, Elliot, Lakisha, Melinda, Blake, Cook,
    Allison, Michael Lynche, Crystal, Lee, Durbin, Lauren, Scotty, Joshua, and P2.

  • girlygirltoo

    Not everyone has the same taste on who is or isn’t attractive though. We know for a fact that Cook, Lee, Scotty and Phillip are considered hot by a lot of women (not me, personally, lol,  but by lots of women) and several of the women you mention were and are considered very pretty.

  • justmefornow

    lol. You have my sympathies. I managed to survive the boy band era, even with my 18 yr. daughter. All her friends were into the Jonas brothers and she hated them. She was always more into Green Day, Paramore and Evanescence (Thank God!) 
    My shredder is 16 so he’s past that danger age too. He’s an old soul, Pink Floyd and Led Zep are 2 of his favorites.
    (My oldest, btw is married and out, so who the hell knows what he listens to now.)

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    I find most of those I listed to be attractive in some way and women who aren’t stick thin are more attractive in my eyes, but I was using the standards that the music audience outside of the bubble uses. (and that tucker davis used in his post) I purposely used the comparisons of Katy Perry, Beyonce, Enrique or Usher.

    AI viewers ( and the women you referred to) historically have a pattern of considering rather average looking guy to be hot. These are not the same feelings of those outside the Idol bubble. If Cassadee, Trevin and Terry are considered to have less than desirable looks, then those I listed from AI would fall under the same category that tucker davis referenced in his earlier comment.

  • chillj

    Speaking of original music, does Amanda Brown play the guitar?  I just previewed her 2009 album and there is a lot instrumental.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    Sure, and I agree that this is the motivation for the 10x bonus, but the people viewing iTunes charts who don’t know the “details” of the special circumstances surrounding the sales of the songs by the Voice contestants could easily be mislead to believe that the chart ranking are actually comparable to the non-Voice artists’ songs who they appear to ranking with.

    Interesting point. I didn’t even realize that you could download the same song ten times until last night and I watch this show every week and follow it and the contestants on a blog every week. Your average viewer is not only not going to know about or understand this special iTunes option, they aren’t going to spend $13- $26 dollars every week to vote for their special snowflake! What if they have two special snowflakes? Then they would have to spend $100 every week to download four songs to support their two favorites. How many people are really doing this?

    Voting a hundred times is nothing compared to spending $100 to support your favorites. Most viewers just aren’t going to do it.

  • suenigma

    Hey now, I don’t think Cook “lacks” anything in the looks department! Ok, ok, I’ll give you the hair. Lol

    Trevin, Terry and Cassadee are all conventionally good looking people, IMO.

  • Wellworn

    I agree, Terry is an excellent technical singer, but I tend to agree with MJ, that he is high end karaoke, just copying the way the songs were originally sung.  Amanda was a better performer IMO, she put her rock spin on songs and made them her own, plus she was more dynamic in her performances.  Trevin is not in their league, his voice is very limited.  And yes! Nicholas is a lot like Elliott Yamin, but even a better singer than him, if that is possible.  I have never heard him miss a note and he always has such richness in his tone.  But I’m worried about Nicholas, his song choices are always so old, he needs to try something contemporary.  He has taken older songs and given them his soul, but he needs to show that he can sing something from this century. 

  • sabbia

    I am quite astonished after reading all the accolades being written over Terry McDermott’s voice. I remember accidentally listening to one of his recorded iTunes songs from the Voice and my ears literally hurt from his singing. I have not watched this season for one second and am totally detached from the personalities so after reading some of the posts in this thread, I thought maybe he had an off day on that one track and went to YT to hear him sing something else. 

    Sadly, I couldn’t even get thru listening entirely to his blind audition and had to stop at the note at 1:15. I hear a nasally tone, total inability to sustain a note, somewhat weak projection, and consistent pitch problems.

    I guess I find it most fascinating the diversity in opinions on who is considered a “good” singer. I certainly do not consider myself an expert on the technical science of singing (only have an opinion on what I hear) but I wonder if it is possible the bar is being constantly dropped lower and lower with this plethora of singing competitions.

  • justmefornow

    Interesting take on the looks of the top 4 from AI10, lol.
    Funny that the three less attractive ones, ie: Goofy Scotty, and chubby Lauren and James, all still have record deals, did pretty well era #1, and are moving onto #2. So maybe it’s not looks per se, but more of certain quality of charisma they share.
    And for the record, I never saw Haley as very good looking, pleasant yes, but hardly beautiful like say Pia, for example. I actually thought Haley reminded me of the Cowardly Lion from the Wizard of Oz, lol.

  • justmefornow

    You and I share the same hearing, lol. 
    It must be the air or water here in Jersey ;)

  • tucker davis

    After 11 seasons, AI has had over 100 finalists now. I consider MOST of them to be very good looking (especially the ones who made it into the top 4-5). It’s part of the package, or else they have great stylists! I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and I like this show!! By the way, I’m a her…tucker is my dog.

  • tucker davis

    Don’t leave out Kris…he’s a cutie!

  • http://twitter.com/happylittlefish Amy Beth

    Maybe iTunes has a time lag in reporting sales. I’m sure there was a last minute surge of song-buying around 9:55. I don’t think the charts get updated continually. I believe they update every hour. But the 10 am update might only report downloads that occurred by 9:45 am or so. So all the late buying wouldn’t be reflected in the charts until 11 am. Am I making any sense?

  • http://twitter.com/CanadianLady2 CanadianLady

    That’s funny re getting a rock fan. I used to joke about having to change the CDs after my (3rd) son drove the car. I put in the country music and he changed it to his classical ones (symphonies and so forth).

  • Jordana33
  • bjayroe25

    That makes sense. Maby that is what happened and maby not. This is the link to the itunes chart that I was watching http://www.doipod.com/itunes-chart/top-100-itunes-songs-usa.html. According to the message at the top of the website This iTunes Charts, is a ‘real-time’ look at the Top 100 Songs on iTunes in the USA. Includes both Singles and Albums. This data is provided by Apple iTunes so you’ll not find a more up to date iTunes Chartanywhere!

  • http://twitter.com/CanadianLady2 CanadianLady

    Scotty was very young, and many people thought him adorable. (And still do.) Lauren is gorgeous and the only problem I saw was the overuse of make-up and her or Idol’s clothing choices. (Skylar too – cowboy boots should be hidden under jeans!) James wasn’t bad-looking. His hair needed some work. Haley isn’t Pia-beautiful but she is very attractive, and she dresses in a very classy way. And I think Casey looked great with his beard and hair trimmed, but that doesn’t change how he sings. I don’t think anyone should be voted for because of how they look, but I do get the attraction thing, and I’m sure it has an effect.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    You just proved my point. The looks of the contestants didn’t matter when it came to actual sales of their music. With the exception of Nicholas, the top 4 on The Voice aren’t any less attractive than many of the Idols (the ones I listed) who have gone on to do well.

  • Jordana33

    doesn’t that make the Voice contestants’ iTunes song rankings a potentially misleading measure of their true popularity (ie. the most individual people who would buy their music), and give a wrong impression of the number of people who may buy an album that they produce? It makes me wonder if iTunes doesn’t filter the sales for the Voice contestants’ songs and pass along the actual number of individuals who bought each song and how many they bought. There must be some computer algorithm to analyze/filter this data.

    I had the same question (with still no answer!). The week that Cassadee had a total of 152,000 downloads…were they downloaded by 152,000 people or do those numbers include the extra downloads allowed during the voting window? For the purpose of Billboard rankings, it would seem unfair to other artists if they allowed multiple copies to count only for Voice contestants.

  • mjsbigblog

    Reminder:

    Deleting all off topic posts. The topic is last night’s The Voice. Not who is cute or not cute on Idol  Thanks.

  • http://twitter.com/ladymctech ladymctech

    Listening to Nicholas on the Nicholoas/Melanie duet right now. He reminds me a bit of Aaron Neville vocally.