Idol Sales News – Week Ending 11/04/12

Taylor Swift will top the BB200 chart for a second week. Phil’s “Home” continues to sell well and has moved into the top 15 most heard songs on radio.

This is the weekly sales thread. Please post numbers as you find them. Thanks!


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  • Mike

    Wow….Phillip & Home just keep plugging away…who would have thought that almost 6 months after the finale ‘Home’ would still be going strong & still climbing!

  • Mike

    Wow….Phillip & Home just keep plugging away…who would have thought that almost 6 months after the finale ‘Home’ would still be going strong & still climbing!

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  • OffLeash

    Home is a beast!

    On the other hand, I’m surprised WWCF didn’t crack the top 100 on iTunes yesterday. I didn’t expect the album to top the chart the first day like often happens with popular Idols new releases, because I don’t believe P2’s Idol base is big enough, but I was expecting the single to make top 100, even top 50 the first day.

     Since WWCF’s charting includes album pre-orders as well as individual song purchase, it gives us a clue as to how small P2’s hardcore Idol fanbase really is.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Don’t Rush – Kelly Clarkson (ft. Vince Gill)

    Artist Title     Move Stations 
    KELLY CLARKSON Don’t Rush f/Vince Gill 219     129

  • IrisandLilies

    I don’t know whether you can make assumptions regarding the size of Phillip’s fanbase based on the iTunes sales.  I consider myself a hardcore Phillip fan, but when I buy an album, I buy the CD version, not the iTunes version because the quality of sound on a CD is better than a digital download.   Also, Phillip’s fanbase may skew older than other AI fanbases.  Older musical listeners tend to buy more CDs.  

  • Wui Zhuan Lim

    you’ll got to see more as official adds to radio start.
    Who knows WWCF isn’t even planned to be a single.
    But no matter what, I like it and will request it.
    That’s what a fan should do, stop worrying if he/she is gonna sell good or not.
    Yes, Home is double platinum. Yay for us. but just a short celebration to humiliate those haters. lol

  • OffLeash

    I think the album will sell extremely well in the stores, as a Xmas gift at least anyway, but I was talking about P2’s rabid fans really, the kind we’re used to with Idols, who buy everything available right away. The kind of rabid fans who make a point of trying to get the album to #1 right away. The size of those hardcore fans looks much smaller than last year’s winner for instance.

  • CanadianLady

    I still prefer to get the CD, esp. if it has extra songs. I rip it and play it on my iPhone, but I might use the CD in my CD player which has way better sound or in my car. Plus I buy a lot of music and I don’t buy duplicates.

    Trying to figure out how I can get the Target CD with all the bonus tracks since I don’t live in the US and have no immediate plans to travel there. Sigh. :)

  • Lexie O’Neill

    Happy that both CWSM and Clear As Day have been moving back up on itunes…not even sure why:))

  • fuzzywuzzy 


    Other notable gains on the chart owned to the CMA Awards include Luke Bryan’s “Tailgates & Tanlines” (24-11 with 24,000; up 87%), Carrie Underwood’s “Blown Away” (20-12 with 24,000; up 59%) and Eric Church’s “Chief” (36-13 with 23,000; up 121%). Blake Shelton,
    the newly crowned CMA entertainer of the year, has three charting
    albums that all post gains: “Cheers, It’s Christmas” (45-28 with
    13,000; up 47%), “Red River Blue” (149-49 with 8,000; up 179%) and
    “Loaded: The Best of Blake Shelton” (a reentry at No. 142 with
    3,000; up 49%).
    Rounding out the top 10 is Phillip Phillips’ “Home,” slipping one rung to No. 10 with 84,000 (down less than 1%).

  • jpfan2

    Yes the failure of the the single to break into the top 100 on iTunes is a sign of a small Idol fanbase. I also think it’s much smaller than the S10 winner.

    It would be better for P2 if there was another single before the album dropped but that ain’t happening.  P2 needs lots, lots, lots of TV promo so people connect the single Home with that guy from Idol. I’ve grown to love WWCF by the way!

  • OffLeash

    I can’t honestly say I’m worried about P2’s sales. I wish him the best and I’ll be happy for him if he does great, but if he doesn’t, life goes on for me tbh. ;)

  • girlygirltoo

    Unless they are official singles, Idols don’t tend to get songs in the Top 100 on iTunes very much these days — and even when they do, they slip back pretty quickly. I don’t think the chart placement of Phillip’s song tells us much of anything. The fact that the album isn’t in the top 10 on iTunes might tell us a little more, but it seems like PP sold a lot of physical copies of his Idol EP, so perhaps his fans are more likely to do that than download music.

    I expect his album to have solid first week sales, but I am not expecting it to sell as much as Scotty’s did last year. In part because there is more competition with November releases than what Scotty had to face last October, and in part because Scotty is in a genre that simply tends to sell better overall. If PP can sell 100-150K his first week, I think the label will be more than happy — anything more than that will be gravy. Unless it ends up selling less than Kris did (a.k.a 80K) the first week, I don’t think anyone connected with his mgmt/label would start to worry (if it ends up selling less than Lee did his first week, well then full fledged panic would set in — but there’s probably less than a 1% chance of that happening).

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I think that it’s pre-orders of both the CD and digital album that indicate that P2 doesn’t have a lot of rabid fans, because rabid fans will buy every single version of a CD that is available, often in multiples to give away.

  • OffLeash

    100-150k would be great, but idk if it’ll happen. I would expect 80k is definitely possible. Less than that would probably be disappointing for the label.

    I’m confused now: I thought P2 sold way less physical CDs of his EP than Scotty.

  • IrisandLilies

    I can try and pick one up for you if you’d like.  I’m planning to go to my nearby Target on either the 19th or the 20th to pick up a CD for myself. 

  • Valentin432

    Looks like Don’t Rush has big hit potential, it’s been hanging around the top 20 on itunes ever since it’s been performed last week on the CMAs with virtually no airplay.

    From memory that’s much better than Don’t You Wanna Stay 2 years ago, and that song went to do big things..

  • blackberryharvest

    Country album sales from Roughstock:

    LW TW Artist Album Sales TW Sales Total

    1 1 Taylor Swift Red 344,000 1,553,000

    3 4 Jason Aldean Night Train 71,000 596,000

    NEW 6 Toby Keith Hope On The Rocks 48,000 48,000

    11 10 Little Big Town Tornado 29,000 323,000

    24 11 Luke Bryan Tailgates & Tanlines 24,000 1,530,000

    [b]20 12 Carrie Underwood Blown Away 24,000 902,000[/b]

    36 13 Eric Church Chief 23,000 1,131,000

    9 15 Lady Antebellum On This Winter’s Night 21,000 46,000

    [b]15 21 Scotty McCreery Christmas With Scotty 16,000 75,000[/b]

    26 24 Hunter Hayes Hunter Hayes 15,000 329,000

    [b]45 28 Blake Shelton Cheers, It’s Christmas 14,000 44,000[/b]

    48 33 Zac Brown Band Uncaged 12,000 583,000

    72 43 Kenny Chesney Welcome To The Fishbowl 9,000 496,000

    137 45 Miranda Lambert Four The Record 9,000 641,000

    [b]135 49 Blake Shelton Red River Blue 8,000 792,000[/b]

    79 54 Brantley Gilbert Halfway To Heaven 8,000 732,000

    29 62 Jamey Johnson Livin’ For A Song 7,000 51,000

    86 68 Lee Brice Hard 2 Love 6,000 249,000

    74 72 Jason Aldean My Kinda Party 6,000 2,799,000

    [b]NEW 89 Scotty McCreery QVC Bundle 5,000 5,000[/b]

    146 93 Lady Antebellum Own The Night 5,000 1,744,000

    155 107 Pistol Annies Hell On Heels 4,000 405,000

    101 108 Kip Moore Up All Night 4,000 221,000

    127 109 Justin Moore Outlaws Like Me 4,000 471,000

    108 113 Easton Corbin All Over The Road 4,000 62,000

    118 114 Dustin Lynch Dustin Lynch 4,000 76,000

    109 116 Rascal Flatts Changed 4,000 394,000

    112 122 Florida Georgia Line It’z Just What We Do 3,000 56,000

    141 128 Various Now Country 5 3,000 151,000

    RE-ENTER 129 Dierks Bentley Home 3,000 221,000

  • Lexie O’Neill

     Wait–they didn’t include the QVC sales in the other numbers?  Well, that stinketh.  Or, it could be seen as a good thing because–just add 5K to the numbers so that means he’s sold 80K for CWSM.  But that won’t ever be official so back to being a bad thing.

    I’m confused.  Why would they do that? 

  • elliegrll

    I still think it’s a sign that Phillip’s online fanbase is small.  I don’t think that Phillip has the type of base that is going to be hanging onto his every tweet, or that spends a lot of time posting about him on message boards.  Because of that, they really wouldn’t know about the single right now.  As far as pre-orders go, most albums from idols don’t shoot up the Itunes chart until they are released.  I don’t remember anyone’s pre order being number one on Itunes.  And for Phillip, that also goes to having a fanbase that doesn’t congregate online, so they won’t see having a pre-order that is high on Itunes as some type of status symbol, or proof that Phillip is more popular than other idol alums.

  • windmills

    Brian came through with numbers at Idol Chatter

    Carrie Underwood, Blown Away (24,000, +59%, 902,000) (#12 Billboard 200)
    Scotty McCreery, Christmas With Scotty (16,000, -9%, 75,000) (#21 BB200)
    Scotty McCreery, Scotty McCreery QVC Bundle (5,000, debut, 5,000) (#93 BB200)
    Kelly Clarkson, Stronger (3,000, +6%, 952,000) (#151 BB200)
    Carrie Underwood, Some Hearts (2,000, +54%, 7.247 million)
    Mandisa, What If We Were Real (2,000, +14%, 225,000)
    Carrie Underwood, Play On (2,000, +43%, 2.147 million)
    Scotty McCreery, Clear as Day (2,000, +15%, 1.122 million)
    Carrie Underwood, Carnival Ride (2,000, +34%, 3.289 million)
    Casey James, Casey James (1,000, +6%, 57,000)

    Phillip Phillips, Home (84,000, -1%, 2.25 million)
    Carrie Underwood, Blown Away (69,000, +37%, 1.236 million)
    Kelly Clarkson, Don’t Rush (41,000, debut, 41,000)
    Colton Dixon, You Are (16,000, debut, 16,000)
    Kelly Clarkson, Catch My Breath (14,000, -41%, 125,000)
    Kelly Clarkson, Stronger (What Doesn’t Kill You) 12,000, +2%, 3.861 million)
    Casey James, Crying on a Suitcase (11,000, +2%, 130,000)
    Carrie Underwood, Good Girl (10,000, +40%, 1.405 million)
    Brad Paisley/Carrie Underwood, Remind Me (6,000, +48%, 1.679 million)

  • Ronny Dias

    I keep hoping to see Haley Reinhart’s name back in these lists… Pity it’s been a while since I last did!
    Seems like her record company isn’t doing much to take her back where she belongs: The top.
    Let’s pray they don’t dismiss her, like Pia.

  • girlygirltoo

    decent numbers for Colton.

  • girlygirltoo

    He did, but it was still a substantial amount.

  • Lexie O’Neill

    Just for fun….P2 sold 82,000 of his EP and 45K of his compilation on itunes. Scotty’s EP sold 201,000 of his EP and 42K of his compilation on itunes.  

    By the way, anybody a member at Wiki?  They left out the #1s for Scottys Christmas album…

  • Trina

    Is this a i must always prop Scotty up game P2 vs. Scotty game?? Ooohh!I wanna play! Anyone have double platinum debut single numbers and radio play to compare??

  • maymay

    On September 21, 2011, Scotty`s album preorder was #41 on iTunes. I think PP`s album preorder is not bad on iTunes.

  • CanadianLady

    That would be great! I could pay you through Paypal or send a cheque. Or send you a Cdn musician’s CD if there’s one you want.

  • springboard2

    By the week ending 10/02/2011, Scotty’s EP  had sold 187k, and Clear as Day opened with 197k on the 10/09/2011.

    Phillip’s EP sold 82k by week ending 09/23/10.

    If the assume that these numbers are representative of the core fanbase, which makes up most of the first week buyers, then Phillip’s Moon first week sales would be around 80k.

    Afterwards, assuming that Phillip will have substantial promo, it will depend on whether people like his album or not, imo.

  • girlygirltoo

    Anyone can go on Wikipedia and edit or add stuff. You don’t have to be a member.

  • Lexie O’Neill

    Wiki did seem to have a required login…might have been late and I wasn’t paying attention entirely.  

    As far as the immediate response to mine…I actually wish P2 the best.  I feel it only helps the franchise, just as any success any finalist achieves is good.  I only brought the #s over because that was the way the thread was going–and it looks like it continued in that vein of trying to figure out what P2’s album sales might be.

    If you want to go by single sales and airplay as an indicator of possible album sales, P2 should have huge numbers…which might be an undue burden, but as his fans wish…

  • IrisandLilies

    Do you know a way that I can contact you about arrangements without having to display contact information on this website?

  • TheOther

    Season 11 also had the lowest audience.  But it’s more to beneficial to Phillip’s long term career that he builds a strong base and acceptance in his home format, AAA, than relying on Idol. The Idol fan base is notorious for abandonment.  Scotty is already showing cracks of that with his last single.

  • CanadianLady

    IrisandLilies, email me at and after I know you’re seen this, I’ll delete the post.

  • Kirsten

    In the past, MJ has been willing to pass on e-mails. Either that, or use a burner e-mail account to post and then pass on your actual e-mail privately.

    Sorry. Sometimes the internet is a crazy place.

  • CanadianLady

    Thanks Kirsten. We’ve made contact and I deleted my email address. It’s a spare one anyway.

  • OffLeash

    Aaah! Thanks for the numbers. In that case, I think my previous estimate of 80k is too low. I’ll add to it the Black Friday stocking stuffer purchases from outside the core fanbase, if HOME being on the CD is sufficiently advertised. People might find the whole album a nice gift for those who they know liked Home, whether the intended recipients had already purchased the song or not. So now I’m gonna predict about 100k for the first week. 

  • Chrissie H

    “The Idol fan base is notorious for abandonment.  Scotty is already showing cracks of that with his last single.”

    What? It´s considered sign of abandonment that his fanbase didn´t buy the same song they already had included on each of the 1.122 million sold albums? Not imo

  • girlygirltoo

    None of Scotty’s singles have sold great (none have gone platinum) or even charted all that well (no Top 10’s), yet he still has sold more than 1.1 million albums. So I don’t know if his singles sales mean much in terms of fans abandoning him. His Xmas album has sold well and CAD continues to move units.

    Eventually, if he continues to struggle (sorta kinda) with radio play and singles sales that could affect his album sales. But so far, not so much.

    As with most Idols, album #2 will really tell the tale.