Idol Headlines For 11/10/09

I’m not able to get the Mediabase Quickcut reports to run – anyone else having trouble? I’m having spincount check withdrawals.

that’s one fantastic interview on cnn with david a! the christmas cd, and plans for his second pop cd are really generating a lot of talk and excitement… it’s great to see him begin to receive recognition for his hard work, and his ever evolving maturity as a solo pop artist… this has been a very thrilling 18 months of being his fan, and here’s to another year of good things happening for this talented and gifted young man.

Eileen99-yes, I got a log in page. I didn’t register or log in.

Adam’s album is #10 on iTunes Album charts! iTunes has finally straightened it’s shit out. There’s a banner for preorder and Adam’s album is under new and noteworthy.

FYE has also moved up to 40 in Music #20 in Pop.

The USA Today review of Kris’s CD is a little peculiar. It seems to be more about what Kris’s wife thought than what the reviewer thought.

What a shame Beethoven wasn’t married. I’d love to read a review that focuses on Mrs. Beethoven’s reaction to the 9th Symphony (it’s not like Beethoven himself could hear it).

Eileen on another thread someone else said they were having trouble too.

This quote from the Kris Allen interview should be framed and sent to Kara.

One track that’s not on the album is “No Boundaries.” Why not?
I think there was a discussion about it. But we felt like we had a lot better stuff than that song to go on the album.

One track that’s not on the album is ‘No Boundaries.’  Why not?
I think there was a discussion about it. But we felt like we had a lot better stuff than that song to go on the album.

aww that’s kind of mean. Poor Kara, I really don’t dislike the song as so many others do, I actually really like it.

Eileen99 and 4Msrmyn, I was just logging in to ask for an updated link for LLWD quick cut. I am also getting the ‘you are not logged’ message. Hopefully somebody will be able to help us out. If I get it somewhere else, I’ll post it back here.

103 69 ADAM LAMBERT For Your Entertainment 139 46 93 0.553

+6 spins
-17 bullet
-0.092 AI

Adam’s #s for today

42 39 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dyin… 1047 909 138 5.957
+0 Spins
-41 Bullet
+0.075 AI

Kris’ #s for today

Adam’s album is #10 on iTunes Album charts! iTunes has finally straighted it’s shit out. There’s a banner for preorder and Adam’s album is under new and noteworthy.

FYE has also moved up to 40 in Music #20 in Pop.

Very nice. He’s off to a great start.

re: Jim C.’s album review. I sent him a tweet yesterday saying I had no problems with his criticisms and that considering time constraints, I was so happy how the album turned out.

He DM’d me back: “considering the time constraints, the album is effing amazing”.

I think he was impressed a little.

Credit leilamaurizia for posting, here’s Brad Paisley and Carrie Underwood promoting the CMAs:

http://www.abcactionnews.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoId=18836@wfts.dayport.com&navCatId=3&rss=823

Brian Mansfield’s track by tracks aren’t official reviews where he’s supposed to keep a distance from a subject IMO. He gets extra access in some cases and I think that feeds into the way he discusses the songs in the Idol Chatter blog. There’s less formality there so IMO it makes it more interesting. Like for example he knows Carrie better than your average journalist because he’s interviewed her several times since she won AI plus he’s seen her in less formal settings – he posted yesterday that he’s even seen her at church! I think he put in the stuff about Katy in his Kris review because he happened to interview her and thought people would find that interesting.

I’m seeing it all over the boards that Quick Cut is requiring a log in now so I don’t think it’s an error. It’s another case of Mediabase restricting access to data to get more subscriptions IMO.

In other idol news, Megan Joy appeared on local Utah TV promoting her aunt’s boutique again, along with her mom.

http://www.abc4.com/content/about_4/gtu/featured_on/story/Bundle-up-with-Castle-Couture/doxRpmyUW0C6ucadtn4RWA.cspx

And Matt is in Nashville writing songs and recording. Here’s a picture of him at last night’s SESAC Awards:

http://twitpic.com/oxw0w

I forgot to add Adam’s album is #1 in Pop. Woohoo! Go Adam!

EWMichaelSlezak

# Just heard pre-orders of @Allison4Realzzz’s Just Like You will contain the track ‘Don’t Wanna Be Wrong,’ co-written by Chris Daughtry!about 1 hour ago from web

So there will be a Daughtry song in Allison’s album. cool!

Carrie and Kellie attended the premiere party in Nashville for Dolly Parton’s new CD/DVD. Here’s a pic of the two of them fooling around:

http://carriephotos.com/displayimage.php?album=1013&pos=11

And having fun with Dolly:

http://carriephotos.com/displayimage.php?album=1013&pos=5

So there will be a Daughtry song in Allison’s album. cool!

Very cool that Daughtry was involved with both Kris and Allison and both these songs are going to be out there as bonuses.

Oh nice job by Chris scoring an Allison cut, even it’s just bonus. I’m excited about hearing it!

Carrie performed again on Good Morning America this morning to promote the CMAs. She sang Temporary Home which ABC has up on its website now:

http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=9041996

She apparently sang All American Girl as a web only performance. Brad Paisley sang his new single American Saturday Night which you can also see at the link I posted.

leilamaurizia‘s pics are the first I’m seeing of Kellie as a redhead. Can’t wait to see her hatless to get a real look! She and Carrie look great with Dolly.

Here’s a pic of the two of them fooling around:

http://carriephotos.com/displayimage.php?album=1013&pos=11

Carrie looks like a Barbie there!
Cute pictures.

So there will be a Daughtry song in Allison’s album. cool!

Yeah. But I’m surprised Daughtry never said a thing.

I’m not sure why it’s mean for Kris to say that the reason NoBo wasn’t included was because they had better songs to put on the album. It just sounds like the truth to me.

That was a nice interview w/ New York Magazine. I like how he talks about how 99% of his relationship has been good, but its the 1% that’s a struggle that inspires you to write a good song.

Great CNN article with Archie. Though the interview with Brian Mansfield is still my favorite.

Daughtry co-writing a track on Allison’s album?? Looking forward to hearing that….

Yeah. But I’m surprised Daughtry never said a thing.

At 2 points over the summer he tweeted about working on songs for someone else. At that point the collaboration with Kris was already known so most people figured both times were in reference to his Kris collaboration. Based on this info it’s likely at least one was probably the Allison song.

That was a nice interview w/ New York Magazine.

It was a nice interview. Kris must have had such a deep feeling about the compromise and/or conflict with Jive that he wrote a song about it and brought it up in lots of interviews. Glad thing turned out fine and the song is fav of many fans. I wonder if we could ever hear those songs dropped by the label in the future eventually.

Adam’s album is #1 on the iTunes pop chart! Woo-hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The question is whether it can stay up there for a little while, but this is fantastic news.

The NY Magazine interview with Kris is a really good one. And that’s a magazine with a huge circulation, so that’s good publicity for him.

Kris will be making the People’s Choice nominations in less than an hour. Supposedly can get live coverage here: twitter.com/peopleschoice

I am really impressed with Chris Daughtry helping Allison and Kris out and giving shout outs to other idols as well. I always liked his music and voice, but his personality is very appealing as well.

Another appearance for Danny…Grafton, WI Christmas Parade

http://www.wisn.com/entertainment/21522637/detail.html

Brian Mansfield’s track by tracks aren’t official reviews where he’s supposed to keep a distance from a subject IMO. He gets extra access in some cases and I think that feeds into the way he discusses the songs in the Idol Chatter blog. There’s less formality there so IMO it makes it more interesting. Like for example he knows Carrie better than your average journalist because he’s interviewed her several times since she won AI plus he’s seen her in less formal settings ‘“ he posted yesterday that he’s even seen her at church! I think he put in the stuff about Katy in his Kris review because he happened to interview her and thought people would find that interesting.

I agree 100%. I really enjoy reading Brian’s track-by-track reviews because they’re not the typical album reviews. I would’ve liked a little more critique, because there were a few songs that I felt dragged down the album, but it was insightful nonetheless.

Carrie performed again on Good Morning America this morning to promote the CMAs.

Whoa, again so soon? Wasn’t she just on GMA? And she did like 2 songs on air and a couple more for the web that time, too. I guess the GMAs make exceptions for country superstars/CMA hosts !

So there will be a Daughtry song in Allison’s album. cool!

Yeah. But I’m surprised Daughtry never said a thing.

Refreshing, isn’t it.

In the New York magazine interview with Kris, I noticed that in this question:

You said in an interview that the song “Let It Rain” was written about being frustrated with the recording process. Your quote was, “You have to compromise, artists and labels don’t always see eye to eye.”

the word “quote” hyperlinks back to MJ’s post about Kris’ Lyndsey Parker interview. Mind you, they could have linked back directly to Lyndsey’s Yahoo blog, but they linked here instead.

First Adam links to MJ’s last night, now this — you’re on a roll, MJ!

Adam’s album is #1 on the iTunes pop chart! Woo-hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The question is whether it can stay up there for a little while, but this is fantastic news.

Look on the bright side…at least Adam’s album got there!!!

The USA Today review of Kris’s CD is a little peculiar. It seems to be more about what Kris’s wife thought than what the reviewer thought.

A little? I’ve never read a music review where the feelings of the artist’s “significant other” were discussed throughout the review. Are Brian M. and Katy besties? And why are there little hints or references to a “troubled relationship” between Kris and Katy?
Kris seems like an extremely private person. I’m betting he didn’t like the references to his wife or their realtionship being intertwined in a musical review of his new album.

A couple pics from People’s Choice…

http://twitpic.com/p04cf

http://twitpic.com/p04y3

Yeah, and tonight (10PM) ABC’s and GMA Co-Host, Robin Roberts, has
an “All Access Nashville” special tonight. It features Carrie Underwood, Tim McGraw, Martina McBride, Loretta Lynn, Rosanne Cash and Vince Gill. Apparently she and Carrie go bowling together. Hee. And then tomorrow’s CMAs will be on ABC primetown. So it’s 2 nights with Carrie. She’s getting some fantastic promo with loads of magazine covers coming up, too.

Does anyone know where LLWD and FYE is sitting on itunes this morning? What about the two pre-ordered sales of the album?

First Adam links to MJ’s last night, now this ‘” you’re on a roll, MJ!

MJ is a STAH!

FYE (the single) is now #20 on pop and #31 overall on iTunes. LLWD is at #30 and #69, respectively

I am really impressed with Chris Daughtry helping Allison and Kris out and giving shout outs to other idols as well. I always liked his music and voice, but his personality is very appealing as well.

Yeah. I didn’t watch Season 5, but I’ve always heard so much about how he came across smug, etc. I admit though, I could see what they were saying because I never found his persona very warm, but I’ve come to see that it’s just the way he oomes across, and he actually seems a pretty nice guy. He said some really nice things about DC when Adam passed away, and has shown support to fellow Idols DC, Kris, Adam, and Allison, which is pretty neat. I have to say, the twitter thing has helped me see that he’s a pretty funny, chill guy.

So Kris is on Conan on Friday, what are the chances that he performs a song other than LLWD? First time following all of this…

Thanks girlygirl! Great for both of them. Does the rankings show up for the pre-orders on the albums?

Does anyone know where LLWD and FYE is sitting on itunes this morning? What about the two pre-ordered sales of the album?

The most current info is in the Adam preorder thread.

The most current info is in the Adam preorder thread.

Sorry I didn’t see any info on Kris there.

So Kris is on Conan on Friday, what are the chances that he performs a song other than LLWD? First time following all of this’ ¦

I hope so but I doubt it, unless he performs two songs.

The most current info is in the Adam preorder thread.

Sorry I didn’t see any info on Kris there.

Oh okay – sorry – don’t have Kris info.

Still joyfully listening to Kris’ CD today and just wanted to officially announce that ‘Is It Over’ is my favorite. That is all.

He said some really nice things about DC when Adam passed away, and has shown support to fellow Idols DC, Kris, Adam, and Allison, which is pretty neat. I have to say, the twitter thing has helped me see that he’s a pretty funny, chill guy.

The Idols seem to take care of each other. Daughtry really seems to have take Kris under his wing in so many ways – I think starting all the way back at Top 4 on the show. DC has been extremely supportive of Adam and Kris both while they were on the show and after. Carrie Underwood is known to have given her # out to all the winners after her and I’m pretty sure she has really helped DC out. Then there are all the shout-outs they give to each other via Twitter when new music comes out (think Archie on FIBOU, DC and Jordin for Kris’s iTunes pre-order, and of course idols from the same season promoting each other (Adam for Kris and Allison, Kris for Adam and Allison, etc.)). To me it makes sense since they have all gone through this experience – even if not at the same time – and who else could ever understand it but someone else who has been there.

too bad i cant sit up for another hour for the people’s choice award to be telecast…..

and wow! daughtry working with both kris and allison! really impressed cos i really like the guy. would be nice to listen to the collabs…

goodnight for now!

Aladam: You can download the iTunes software on your computer – you don’t need an iPod or have to pay anything. If you have internet access (as you obviously do), it’s easy to download it and then you can track all this and see the banners, etc.

For those who were asking, I posted the iTunes ranks for Kris’ single up above (#69 overall, #30 pop). His album is currently #19 on the iTunes pop chart

I just put up a post for the Peoples choice awards…

I’m not able to get the Mediabase Quickcut reports to run ‘“ anyone else having trouble? I’m having spincount check withdrawals.

I think they are gone forever behind the veil of login. Sob.

Here is a wee taste of them this morning (this won’t last long) compared to yesterday:

Live Like We’re Dying
Spins: 2122 (+33)
AC: 1 (=)
HAC: 945 (+28)
Pop: 1176 (+5)
AI: 10.434 (+0.198)

For Your Entertainment
Spins: 286 (13)
HAC: 137 (10)
Pop: 149 (9)
Act: 0 (-1)
Rhy: 0 (-5)
AI: 1.617

Friday I’ll Be Over You:
Spins: 78 (6)
HAC: 3 (=)
Pop: 75 (6)
AI: 0.178

Adam just tweeted:

adamlambert

Thank you all for making my album #1 on the itunes pop chart and #10 in general music. I’m so thrilled you all want to hear it!!!
4 minutes ago from Echofon

What a sweetie. That’s for the $16.99 Deluxe album too! The regular album is also charting, but I’m not sure of the number!

Kirsten: Argh. Don’t know if I can handle candy being taken away from me.

Do you know how much a Mediabase membership costs?

Carrie Underwood is known to have given her # out to all the winners after her and I’m pretty sure she has really helped DC out.

Plus, she gives gifts to the top 10 every season. I think the season 8 peeps got Tiffany necklaces and season 7-ers got bracelets. Or the other way around. She shares the wealth, or at least some of it

She also gave a song for Kristy Lee Cook’s debut album– “Not Tonight.” (And what did she get in return? Kristy blaming her for being dropped by the label. :p ) I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s also a co-write on Danny Gokey’s debut.

Yeah, it’s cute how the Idolers stick together. I liked watching the footage from the Idol Experience when the cameras caught some of the Idols just chit-chatting.

Kris is on Conan on Friday, what are the chances that he performs a song other than LLWD? First time following all of this’ ¦

Zero, and why should he perform another song? LLWD is charting in multiple formats, it’s a top 40 song on both pop and HAC, the video was the most popular one on VH1 over the weekend, so why wouldn’t Kris continue to use it to promote himself and the album. It’s the song that’s currently on the radio, and the one that people will associate with him. What’s the point of introducing a new song that nobody knows?

I forgot to add that LLWD will debut at number 40 on the Billboard Pop chart when they chart comes out on Thursday. The song is already in the top 30 on billboard’s adult pop chart, and in the top 50 on billboard’s Christian music chart. So, maybe I’m missing something in regards to Kris not performing the song.

The regular album is currently at #135 (overall).

Kirsten: Argh. Don’t know if I can handle candy being taken away from me.

Do you know how much a Mediabase membership costs?

I know it kills me! Here is the info they gave me on the cost.

Here’s how you can access the MIS site and its information: (these rates assume annual contract, prepaid monthly by credit card)
– $395 monthly fee for one user
- $575 monthly fee for two users
– $700 monthly fee for three users

Yeah, I think I’ll pass on that lol.

I forgot to add that LLWD will debut at number 40 on the Billboard Pop chart when they chart comes out on Thursday. The song is already in the top 30 on billboard’s adult pop chart, and in the top 50 on billboard’s Christian music chart. So, maybe I’m missing something in regards to Kris not performing the song.

Thanks Babybelle32 for this info. Please correct me if I’m wrong. LLWD was #89 on Billboard charts on the first week of release. Then it didn’t chart afterwards until now at #40. Awesome!!!

Thanks Babybelle32 for this info. Please correct me if I’m wrong. LLWD was #89 on Billboard charts on the first week of release. Then it didn’t chart afterwards until now at #40. Awesome!!!

The #89 figure is referring to the billboard hot 100, Billboard has a lot of different charts. On the charts that will come out on Thursday, LLWD will appear on at least three of them, Pop (#40), Adult Pop, and Christian. I don’t know if it will be on the Hot 100, especially since we won’t find out how many units it sold until Wednesday.

BTW, when it appeared on the Hot 100 the song had been out for ten days. It would have debuted higher if it had been released on Tuesday instead of Friday, but that doesn’t matter.

The #89 figure is referring to the billboard hot 100, Billboard has a lot of different charts. On the charts that will come out on Thursday, LLWD will appear on at least three of them, Pop (#40), Adult Pop, and Christian. I don’t know if it will be on the Hot 100, especially since we won’t find out how many units it sold until Wednesday.

BTW, when it appeared on the Hot 100 the song had been out for ten days. It would have debuted higher if it had been released on Tuesday instead of Friday, but that doesn’t matter.

Thanks for the clarification. Much appreciated. I’m glad it is also charting on billboard’s Christian chart.

Here’s how you can access the MIS site and its information: (these rates assume annual contract, prepaid monthly by credit card)
‘“ $395 monthly fee for one user
- $575 monthly fee for two users
‘“ $700 monthly fee for three users

Yeah, I think I’ll pass on that lol.

Wow. That will keep the fans at bay.

Wow. That will keep the fans at bay.

Yikes. Time to start begging Brian for more detailed spin info on his weekly airplay blog…?

I haven’t seen the People’s Choice Awards in years. Until posters began talking about it here, I thought it had been cancelled.

Sassycatz
11/10/2009 at 1:45 pm
I haven’t seen the People’s Choice Awards in years. Until posters began talking about it here, I thought it had been cancelled.

So had I to tell you the truth, until it was announced that Kris was going to announce the nominations. It hasn’t been on my radar in years.

$395 per month?

Brb crying forever.

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Wow thanks! Worth $400? No, but I always love waking up each morning and checking out the spins.

Just read on DCO that apparently a professional concert photographer, Todd Owyoung, is working David Cook’s show tonight in St. Louis. Of course, everyone is wondering why. (There’s the eternal hope of a live concert album with accompanying photographs…. Yeah, when pigs fly.)

http://ishootshows.com/?page_id=2

@RachelParkerPix @toddowyoung david cook is a fantastic shoot. I know hes playing the pagaent soon.

@toddowyoung: @RachelParkerPix I’m photographing David Cook tomorrow night ‘“ thanks for the heads up, looking forward to it.

(There’s the eternal hope of a live concert album with accompanying photographs

Kinda interesting considering Sony just tweeted this:

@SonyMusicGlobal: Live music is what made him an Idol! Check out @TheDavidCook’s acoustic performance @ http://bit.ly/2hArtc – how’d he sound?

I’m glad they at least acknowledge his live performances are such a major part of who he is, but what made him an Idol? Weird wording I think. I’m not sure the photographers being at the shows mean much though. I’ve seen professional shots of his shows pop up from previous shows months ago on photography sites..

Just read on DCO that apparently a professional concert photographer, Todd Owyoung, is working David Cook’s show tonight in St. Louis. Of course, everyone is wondering why. (There’s the eternal hope of a live concert album with accompanying photographs’ ¦. Yeah, when pigs fly.)

A live album would be the bomb.

I’m not sure the photographers being at the shows mean much though. I’ve seen professional shots of his shows pop up from previous shows months ago on photography sites..

I’m with you, Trina. At best, we’ll get some professional shots to look at if the guy publishes them on a website.

In other news, Andy had a good bday, it seems. Doesn’t quite sound like “regret”, but seems close . I’m thinking DC’s satisfied. Andy tweeted:

Thanks to everybody who made me feel like this today. That means it was a good night. Rock in St. Louis tonight…be there

And in yet other twitter news, Jordin tweets:

Just met with my new publishing ‘family’ Cherry Lane. I am so excited about the new opportunities that will come up! Yaaaaay

Cherry Lane is DC’s publishing company. Interesting that she’s lining up a publishing deal. I didn’t even know Jordin has written more than a couple songs.

smallie – also fans got #HappyBdayAndySkib to trend on Twitter for a while, which I thought was cool. Cookie seems so happy in current vids – I liked the one from Houston where he brings his musician friend Nick Gibson up on stage, and at the end he carries Kyle off the stage. so cute.

To me he’s still the breakout artist of the year.

I’m sorry to read about the Toxic Avenger closing. Diana DeGarmo is fantastic in the show, and the show is hysterical. Hopefully she lands on her feet with another broadway show soon. If you are in the NYC area, I HIGHLY recommend seeing Toxic Avenger before it closes in January. It’s well worth it.

Cook got screwed over, once again.

To me he’s still the breakout artist of the year.

Especially in this economy to sell so well.
ETA: Why is he always overlooked?

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20318749,00.html

Not surprisingly, Adam’s winning People’s poll for who should replace Steven Tyler in Arrowsmith.

Just posted this in another thread (but realize it’s better here) – Allison just got a Pop Add. Yea!

Cook got screwed over, once again.

Nah. PCA’s are good publicity, so it’d be a nice to have, but I really don’t think he fit in anywhere, I don’t think. He’s no longer pushing an album/new singles, and it would’ve been weird to have DC on the list next to two nominees in the Breakout Artist category who *just* got off AI. Not really a snub, IMO. Just didn’t make sense, and I’m totally not bothered by it. The AMAs bummed me out a little, but PCAs are about the popular artists/movies/shows *right now*, and DC isn’t in that category.

to get into mediabase try

Wow. I’ve been backdoor accessing mediabase for a few years now (though with limited access) but I’ve never come upon a way to actually get in.

Thanks!

@thepageantstl: DAVID COOK is SOLD OUT!
@GRO: Making our way to st. Louis. Last time we were here it was the 4th of July & we played under the arch. Sold out show at the pageant tonight

They sold out. Cool.

ETA:Join @PaulCooked for a LIVE broadcast from the Halo Bar featuring @TheDavidCook, @TheScript @GRO Tuesday 3-7PM // [ ETA: @Y98:Listen Live starting at 1PT/2MT/3CT/4ET ]

Found this at DCO. Does anyone know anything about this?

I know there’s a People’s Choice thread but Adam, Kris and Susan Boyle, along with Demi Lovato and Lady Gaga were nomintaed for breakout music artist.

I’m actually rooting for Lady GaGa in that category. Her new video is all sorts of awesome.

dv: OMG thank you. Wow, talk about information overload on that website!

I’m not seeing the Quick Cut report in any of the menus – do you have a secret you can share for getting to that report quickly?

Yep, I agree on DC being the breakout artist not sure who’s responsible for the nominations. Album sold well in the economy as well as great concert sales! Also, he actually has an album out.

I’m not seeing the Quick Cut report in any of the menus ‘“ do you have a secret you can share for getting to that report quickly?

That account won’t last long with it being on every fan board.

To get to Quick Cut:
1. Click on the 24/7 button
2. Click on 7-Day Reports (top row)
3. Click on Song Analysis link
4. Enter the name of the song or artist you are interested in (select the appropriate radio button)
5. When the list of songs appear that satisfy your search, Change the drop-down menu to be QuickCut (far right – IIRC, it used to say 7 days).

Then press Go or whatever is to the right of that and you’ll get there.

Album sold well in the economy as well as great concert sales! Also, he actually has an album out.

I really think the PCA’s are about what’s high on the public’s conscious right now… and the fresh alumni from this year’s AI are definitely higher in the public conscious than DC is at the moment. All but the biggest musicians go through ups and downs in their public profile, which tends to correspond with their album release cycles. Adam and Kris and SuBo as well, you can argue, JUST broke out from total obscurity to fairly recognizable pop culture names, and are in the midst of their big promo blitz for upcoming albums. Lady Gaga broke out from a moderately known artist to the ubiquitous radio queen, and that’s undeniable. I dunno, I feel like DC kind of broke out with Idol last year, and followed it up with a steady stream of accomplishments that have served to build a solid foundation to secure and maintain his long term place in the industry, if you will. I don’t think it’s a big deal that he wasn’t a breakout artist in 2009 as defined by PCA.

Just posted this in another thread (but realize it’s better here) ‘“ Allison just got a Pop Add. Yea!

Two now. I wish her album was doing a bit better in the pre-order department.

I agree on DC being the breakout artist not sure who’s responsible for the nominations.

If Adam, Kris and SuBo are considered breakout artists how could Cook (or Archie) be considered too when they’re a year older than those? I don’t think they were running for that category.

Cherry Lane is DC’s publishing company.

I saw her name at their site the other day and thought it was old news, apaprently not.
But great for her to get a deal.

Mary102 mentioned upthread that Allison got another add — it’s now 2 today, and they’re pretty good ones — Madison WI and Buffalo, the 3rd and 2nd biggest markets she’s gotten so far.

Chris Daughtry just tweeted that he co-wrote the song for Allison’s album with their guitarist (Brian Craddock) so it looks like that was the song he was talking about in his tweets last Summer (about writing a song for someone and he hope the artist likes it).

“To get to Quick Cut:”

Copy, paste, save. Thank you. I was missing the very last step.

Allison’s album preview

Was DC nominated for PCA last year?

Was DC nominated for PCA last year?

There was no breakout star category last year.

Did we get final HDD numbers (100%) for Carrie’s album? It wasn’t in the Monday Mediabase thread and I don’t think I missed it this morning.

they just posted keel……….

CHART DATE: 11/09/2009
LAST UPDATE: 11/10/2009 14:28:28
NOW IN: FINAL

- 1 CARRIE UNDERWOOD 19/ARISTA NASHVILLE 312,924

she kicked butt – way 2 go carrie!

http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi

You can preview Allison’s album snippet now!!

http://seed.sproutbuilder.com/YwCT_gkfG19s_XT7

… f.y.i…… carrie is the only ex idol with a release in the top 50 on hits daily double. this woman can really move some cd’s – hats off to her….

Wow, go Carrie!

So I like a lot of the clips from Allison’s album. VERY Pink-ish though, and a kind of Paramore-ish (to me, at least) song with D-Dangerous. But at least Allison’s wonderfully distinctive voice is much more discernible with other songs than it was with FIBOU, so that’s all to the good. I like pop/punk/rock much more than I do soft/rock so personally I enjoy this album more than Kris’s, though both have a kind of typical where a lot of songs have the same song. I think this album could be successful.

Yeah, I like Holiday, and D is for Dangerous a lot from what I hear of them, and enough of the others one I think it’s totally worth 9.99 from me. Some of these songs I can see on my iPod. So good job Allison.

I’m not impressed by Allison’s album in the first listen. Many songs sound alike and her voice sound too old. On to the second listen.

Alot of people on twitter are really hating on Beat Me up. I love D is for Dangerous, and scars the most and I like the one with the title of her album too.

FIBOU got it’s third add today.

moved

Loving Allison’s snippets. Once again, it seems like the single chosen, by TPTB, may be the weakest song.
I am loving, “Scars” soooooo much. D if for Dangerous too! Yay, for Allison!

Allison’s snippets reveal an album with multi-hit potential.

If Adam, Kris and SuBo are considered breakout artists how could Cook (or Archie) be considered too when they’re a year older than those? I don’t think they were running for that category.

I guess my question is why are these three considered when their albums aren’t even out? How long has Lady Gaga been around?

I’m not impressed by Allison’s album in the first listen. Many songs sound alike and her voice sound too old.

There is some of that sound alike thing going on with her album a well, granted. But as someone was pointing out to me about Kris’s when I said the same thing, that a lot of albums do that, and I think that’s a fair point. And so the trick is to find an album whose sound(s) you like, so that when there are a few of them, you can enjoy them, or at least some of them.

Alot of people on twitter are really hating on Beat Me up.

I tried editing into my remarks, but somehow it wouldn’t let me, but I said just that. It’s one of my least favourite tracks on the album thus far, not terribly fond of “Pieces,” from what I could tell either. And there another one I wasn’t too fond of, can’t remember which one.

On Allison’s snippets:

I loved ‘Scars’ and ‘Holiday’ – I could hear Allison best on those. Robot Love sounded like a Gaga wannabe song and Just Like You sounded more Kelly Clarkson than Pink but I liked it.

OMG, this guy from Lady GaGa’s Bad Romance video … is from my country, Slovenia. His name is Jurij Bradac, he is a model and a few years ago he went to Hollywood. He wanted to become an actor, but no one took him seriously. Now he suddenly appeared in Lady GaGa’s music video.

You can preview Allison’s album snippet now!!

http://seed.sproutbuilder.com/YwCT_gkfG19s_XT7

On first listen the ones that caught me most were:
“Scars”, “Holiday” and “Trouble Is”. I can’t wait to hear the whole thing. I hope there is a preview Listening Party like Kris!

Love the voice!

I like ‘Scars’, ‘Holiday’, ‘Still Breathing’ and “Trouble Is’ . ‘Scars’ and ‘Trouble Is’ is very Pink-ish. ‘You Don’t Know Me’ is good too.

Hey, if you have trouble listening on the Sproutbuilder site (like me), you can also listen to the stream from here.

FIBOU got it’s 4th add today.

Just Like You

That was it! That was the other song I wasn’t as fond of , because it was too generic and obviously forgettable.

Scars is among my early faves, as well.

Yeah I love scars alot and pieces I think it’s called, and D is for Dangerous, and there was at least two other I really liked.

For add junkies:

Top 40 adds now closed for the week:

Adam had 11 (9 monitored); four were auto-adds that spun the song a total of 53 times last week. Highest add market Las Vegas #33

Kris had 9 (7 monitored); 1 was an auto add that spun LLWD 15 times; another station spun it 28 times. Highest add market Greensboro #45.

Z100 did not pick up FYE and none of the top Calif stations picked up either, but Kris did get picked up yesterday at the HAC station in Seattle (#13 market).

For perspective – leaders on Top 40 were Jay Sean (37) and Keisha (34).

Allison got 5 TOP 40 adds today.

Wasn’t crazy about the article but the picture is nice.

http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/popwrap/hey_queen_the_lambert_thing_isn_fjtPgKcvjcZYJY2ZGRPH4I

Results on the iTunes pop album: Kris is at 18 and Alli is up to 19. Adam’s regular version is now at #23, Deluxe is #1!

11 top 40 adds for Adam and 5 for Allison! WTG!

Lyrics from snippet of “You Don’t Know Me” co-written by Alli and Daughtry:

‘I got more on my mind that I never told, I’ve got pain that you never felt, I’ve got the scars I can deal with on my own, I have stories that I never tell, but maybe it’s just this way, you don’t know me, you don’t want to know what’s real’ 

Hello, Simon!

From the snippets, I like many of Alli’s songs — Scars, Just Like You, Still Breathing, & Holiday

From the clips I heard Scars is the best song on there in my opinion. I just think they have her sounding too much like Kelly Clarkson and/or Pink. FIBOU is th weakest song on there for me. They should have picked a better first single.

But at least Allison’s wonderfully distinctive voice is much more discernible with other songs than it was with FIBOU, so that’s all to the good. I like pop/punk/rock much more than I do soft/rock so personally I enjoy this album more than Kris’s . . .

Cool. Glad that Allison’s distinctive voice is there. That’s important and what I really liked about her from the very start. And I’m with you — more of a pop/punk/rock person (Green Day-ish, Paramore-ish) than a soft rock person (Fray-ish), so glad to hear that her music is at least tilted that direction. Am at work so I’ll have to stream later. Wishing her much luck.

Yay, I am really liking Alli’s snippets. I agree with the various comments here about Kelly and Pink and I also get a hint of Avril Lavigne in there too, but what do I know?!! Anyway, it’s all good and I can see this being a big hit! I’m so pleased, she was my number two pick right from top 36 week, even with that funny interview before she went on to sing! I didn’t do too badly in picking artists to follow this Idol series, considering I had never watched more than a few episodes before this year!

Not sure if this album will be released in the UK but I will get the vouchers and get it off iTunes US or Canada if needs be!

This has been a fun day idol-watching! Must get some sleep now. Night all!

Someone at Pulse posted the whote Top 40 chart. Here are the Idol numbers:

— 64 DAUGHTRY Life After You 198 0 198 0.554

103 69 ADAM LAMBERT For Your Entertainment 139 46 93 0.553

105 85 ALLISON IRAHETA Friday I’ll Be Over U 75 45 30 0.162

Oops, I forget Jason Castro’s single is at 60.

jpfan
11/10/2009 at 7:37 pm

Someone at Pulse posted the whote Top 40 chart. Here are the Idol numbers:

‘” 64 DAUGHTRY Life After You 198 0 198 0.554

103 69 ADAM LAMBERT For Your Entertainment 139 46 93 0.553

105 85 ALLISON IRAHETA Friday I’ll Be Over U 75 45 30 0.162

Oops, I forget Jason Castro’s single is at 60.

Jpfan what do all the numbers after each song mean…Ex: Life after you 198 0 198 0.554

I have to say after listening to Allison’s snippets now I am so pleased with Adam’s, Kris’s, and Allison’s albums. I really think they are 3 of the best debut albums that any idol has put out. I can say they all pretty much stayed true to themselves. I am buying all three albums without question. Amazing.

Oh Adam, I luh you, but sometimes you need to shut your piehole. Even if what you’re saying is truefax.

Anyhew, so Kris will be attending the AMAs. That’s cool! Okay, he won’t be peforming, or I don’t think, presenting, but hey he’s going and that’s cool for me.

Oh and Kris and Adam both being nominated as breakout stars for the PCA…okay and nice both were, but neither deserve to win. Lady GaGa does and she better.

Go look at the iTunes pop album chart! Kris is 18, Alli is 19, and Adam #2(regular version) is at 20.

They are all lined up right there together. Awwww

Truthiness
11/10/2009 at 7:59 pm
Oh Adam, I luh you, but sometimes you need to shut your piehole. Even if what you’re saying is truefax.

Yikes! What did he say?

Oh and Kris and Adam both being nominated as breakout stars for the PCA’ ¦okay and nice both were, but neither deserve to win. Lady GaGa does and she better.

Truthi — If Lady GaGa is your personal favorite, then for you she certainly “deserves” to win, but this particular award is all about preference — subjective, biased preference — and nothing to do with who “deserves” to win. The only person who deserves to win in any of the categories is the one who the majority of people choose as their personal favorite — for whatever reason.

If Lady GaGa is your personal favorite, then for you she certainly ‘deserves’  to win, but this particular award is all about preference ‘” subjective, biased preference ‘” and nothing to do with who ‘deserves’  to win. The only person who deserves to win in any of the categories is the one who the majority of people choose as their personal favorite ‘” for whatever reason.

If the category is biggest breakout star of the year, than yes, I think Lady GaGa who went from virtual unknown to have number one hit after hit after hit, after hit, after still counting, and having the kind of significance she has, however fleeting, on music and videos, is a lot more deserving of the actual award than two guys from American Idol who haven’t proven jackshyte outside of AI yet. Just all on their own neither deserve it, but certainly not in comparison to Lady GaGa.

Sure one can vote for whomever one likes when it’s the vote of the people, I’m just saying for the category? Lady GaGa absolutely should win and it will be a joke if SuBo, Adam or Kris win. Which is the people’s prerojative to suck as voting, that’s for sure. But other than that? not so much.

Oh and I like Lady GaGa, but as a personal favourite, I’d choose Adam over her. But I’d still vote for Lady GaGa for that category.

JPFan

What are the numbers for LLWD? You left it off your post…

Also, the peeps at ontd_ai are saying Kris is going to the AMAs. Has anyone heard if he is going to be a presenter? Not sure it would be news if he was just going to sit in the audience…

But I’m excited, since I am going to the AMAs as well. Maybe I’ll get to see both Adam and Kris close up. That would be cool

With everyone being a back door man tonight, will someone post the total numbers. Is that woman or Baby?

Total spins please.

I posted the songs under 50 that aren’t published daily. You can find LLWD here daily. Kris is at 39 on the chart (Taylor Swift just passed him)

http://www.mediabase.com/mmrweb/insideradio/charts.asp?format=1&showyear=y&dpt=n

What does total spins mean? This is the Top 40 chart and they count spins weekly. LLWD had 1047 spins for the past 7 days. FYE had 139 spins.

Hmmm…missed a comment or two from Adam? Maybe someone can fill us in. I am posting on this thread as just wanted to say happy for all of the fans of Kris and Adam. It seems that all is going well and their soon to be released CD’s will be well received. And what is good for one Idol is good for all.

…from a David Cook fan.

Kris’ Quick Cut spins for last 7 days = 2122; 945 HAC; 1176 Pop; 1 AC. He is also getting Christian spins but those are not included.

Truthiness
11/10/2009 at 8:35 pm
If the category is biggest breakout star of the year,

Actually it isn’t: The category is FAVORITE Music Breakout Artist — not biggest or best — and that’s where a lot of the confusion comes from. Like the Oscars are Best Performance BY an Actor in a ____ Role; it’s not BEST Actor — just the one that gave a stand-out (possibly one-time) performance as a particular character ina particular film.

Sure one can vote for whomever one likes when it’s the vote of the people, I’m just saying for the category? Lady GaGa absolutely should win and it will be a joke if SuBo, Adam or Kris win. Which is the people’s prerojative to suck as voting, that’s for sure. But other than that? not so much.

And that’s the point! If Adam is your favorite, but you really want to give props to GaGa for being innovative or “out the box” or for the way she handles her career, then that’s who you’d vote for! The “category” is only there to narrow it down, otherwise it would just be Favorite Artist or Favorite Celebrity over all and wouldn’t allow you to determine who your favorite was in a particular field.

Apparently in the next issue of RS Adam calls Gene Simmons a hypocritcal d*ck who isn’t even a good singer. You can see the scans on Twitter.

Smackdown!!

But I thought Adam said he liked d*ck. Hehe!!

props to GaGa for being innovative or ‘out the box’  or for the way she handles her career, then that’s who you’d vote for! The ‘category’  is only there to narrow it down, otherwise it would just be Favorite Artist or Favorite Celebrity over all and wouldn’t allow you to determine who your favorite was in a particular field.

But that’s my point. That the category shouldn’t be subsumed completely to one’s favourites. I mean let’s say the category is Best Actress, but my personal favourite performance is Mariah Carey in Glitter and it’s up against Meryl Streep in Sophie’s Choice (ignore the impossibility, I’ve a point to make). Now could I vote for my personal favourite of Mariah Carey in Glitter? Sure. But if the category is actually Best Actress, than favourite or not, Mariah Carey in Glitter doesn’t actually deserve to win over Meryl Streep in Sophie’s Choice. Now is the category is most lulzy or MST3K-worthy performance? Than different criteria and so there could be a different outcome. Yeah, Meryl Streep in Sophie’s Choice just doesn’t bring the lulz the way one would think in a story about Concentration Camps, the death of children, madness and suicide. I know, who could have predicted that?

So yeah, if Adam or Kris or SuBo win, it would be Glitter-tastic, and not in a good way, because no, none of them should win in that category again Lady GaGa. If one is as faithful to the actual category and following the criteria of that category, as much as one objectively can.

Anyhew I feel this all moot, Lady GaGa will win and huzzah! If SuBo wins? ugh. I think I’d rather see Mariah Carey win an Oscar for Glitter somehow, than that.

KLI-Apparently in the next issue of RS Adam calls Gene Simmons a hypocritcal d*ck who isn’t even a good singer. You can see the scans on Twitter.

I read this description of Adam somewhere so I can’t take credit but it really gets him. I’m paraphrasing here: “Adam is like those plush velvet curtains that are all pretty and soft until you rub them the wrong way.”
I thought that was pretty funny but apparently accurate.

Apparently Daughtry is having trouble selling out his arena tour. Another location has discounted tickets to $14.99: http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/16004328E1A66946?artistid=1097212&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=1

Danny’s latest tweet:

dannygokey Just walked the red carpet @ the BMI award show~I have the honor of walking the red carpet @ the CMA’s 2morow~All this dreaming has paid off

He has also been doing radio interviews the last two days. Quite smart for RCA/Nashville to release Danny’s single right before the CMA’s. Very good way to introduce Danny to the country music world.

“But that’s my point. That the category shouldn’t be subsumed completely to one’s favourites.”

but thats what the category is. lol Its the People’s choice awards. People can vote multiple times. Its not the grammy’s. Its a popularity contest. Thats why there are so many reality tv show contestants nominated.

Danny’s latest tweet:

dannygokey Just walked the red carpet @ the BMI award show~I have the honor of walking the red carpet @ the CMA’s 2morow~All this dreaming has paid off

He has also been doing radio interviews the last two days. Quite smart for RCA/Nashville to release Danny’s single right before the CMA’s. Very good way to introduce Danny to the country music world.

I saw some items online from radio stations that were doing interviews as part of the lead-up to the CMAs. It looked like a good opportunity for Danny to meet with stations from around the country, and also to connect with other artists who were meeting press in the same venues.

I saw also that Danny had a chance to speak with Keith Urban and Nicole Kidman tonight. I still remember that video from sometime back in the spring when Keith was telling an interviewer that they loved AI and really followed it. Keith said Danny was their pick as he had a great voice, and Nicole seemed to be kind of crushin’ generally on Danny and his “kind eyes.” Lol.

Truthiness
11/10/2009 at 9:59 pm
But that’s my point. That the category shouldn’t be subsumed completely to one’s favourites.

Last comment — otherwise we’ll start speculating that maybe Pia Zadora could have won a Golden Globe! (Oh wait . . . that actually happened!)

The whole point of the People’s Choice Awards is that unlike the Oscars, Emmys , GG, Tonys — any other awards that (we hope) are based on merit, this one is based strictly on popularity. No other criteria necessary. The category in this case is simply an organizational tool to make it convenient for you to vote for all your favorites in different fields without pitting your favorite actor against your favorite singer for instance. And it’s YOUR choice — based solely on your own personal preference whether or not they exemplify their category.

To be accurate about the Rolling Stone article, when referring to Gene saying that Adam had ruined his career by coming out, Adam said, “He was being a dick.”

Not that Gene isn’t a dick, or that I would have minded if Adam had said it flat out, but this quote refers more to Gene’s actions.

Actually it isn’t: The category is FAVORITE Music Breakout Artist ‘” not biggest or best ‘” and that’s where a lot of the confusion comes from.

That’s true! It’s kind of like American Idol! Sometimes the best singer doesn’t win. It’s who the voters most identify with and who gets the most votes. Period.

It’s the People’s Choice Awards. I LOVE Adam. So, Adam is getting my vote! It’s my choice!

Go look at the iTunes pop album chart! Kris is 18, Alli is 19, and Adam #2(regular version) is at 20.

They are all lined up right there together. Awwww

awwww bis. yeah our kradison!! kudos to all of them

Danny seems to be having fun tonight:

dannygokey Wow I met Keith Urban. He proceded to introduce me 2 Nicole Kidman & said that she got him into American idol & that they were cheering 4 me

but thats what the category is. lol Its the People’s choice awards. People can vote multiple times. Its not the grammy’s. Its a popularity contest. Thats why there are so many reality tv show contestants nominated.

And note I said that shouldn’t, not couldn’t win. People vote suckily all the time in the US, they could totally do so again here, but I’m just saying, it would be sucking voting if Kris, Adam or SuBo won. That’s all.

girlygirl
11/10/2009 at 8:37 pm
Also, the peeps at ontd_ai are saying Kris is going to the AMAs. Has anyone heard if he is going to be a presenter? Not sure it would be news if he was just going to sit in the audience’ ¦

But I’m excited, since I am going to the AMAs as well. Maybe I’ll get to see both Adam and Kris close up. That would be cool

I posted something about this earlier. I think you and I, and parts of ontd_ai, are like the only ones that think this is cool. I’m not saying Kradam have to be tied togther forever, but yeah, I think it’s cool they’re both going to be there.

Oh and still think it’s weird that Brian Mansfield felt the need to talk about Kris’s relationships and Katy’s favourites and the like, when critiquing Kris’s album. Don’t get that. The songs create their own story, and most people aren’t going to know or care about anything related to Kris’s real life. That was just so random to me.

hahaha that’s too funny. Jim C. knows that Shakira is a fav of Kris, look at the picture he posted!

http://twitpic.com/p25k3

Every winner, every year has attended the AMA’s in some form even if it’s just as a presenter so I would hope Kris would at least be invited. Hopefully he’ll present too.

To be accurate about the Rolling Stone article, when referring to Gene saying that Adam had ruined his career by coming out, Adam said, ‘He was being a dick.’ 

It’s so nice that he’s willing to give the so-called “press” plenty of copy. How accomodating.

That’s true! It’s kind of like American Idol! Sometimes the best singer doesn’t win. It’s who the voters most identify with and who gets the most votes. Period.

So … if Gaga loses, the best new break out artist will not have won?

Hey David Cook fans – He’s playing a sold out show in St. Louis tonight.
was at a preshow event you can listen to via this download link:

“>> @Y98: Join @PaulCooked for a LIVE broadcast from the Halo Bar featuring @TheDavidCook, @TheScript @GRO Tuesday 3-7PM // [ MP3 Download, courtesy of BrazilianWNs ]” – http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JXCEA9HP

Oh and still think it’s weird that Brian Mansfield felt the need to talk about Kris’s relationships and Katy’s favourites and the like, when critiquing Kris’s album. Don’t get that. The songs create their own story, and most people aren’t going to know or care about anything related to Kris’s real life. That was just so random to me.

Truthiness, agree with you on that. It seemed just weird to me in the context of an album review. It can be discussed in an interview but there it just seemed out of place. And stories don’t only relate to self but to other people too so I felt it awkward that he was bringing all back to Kris personal life

I also wonder if Kris regrets talking about his song being about his issues with Jive and the record making process and his dissatisfaction with it at the time. He seems to be backtracking now, but the story is still out there.

That’s true! It’s kind of like American Idol! Sometimes the best singer doesn’t win. It’s who the voters most identify with and who gets the most votes. Period.

So ‘ ¦ if Gaga loses, the best new break out artist will not have won?

Not sure I understand the question, but I’ll take a stab at it.
If Gaga loses it will be because she didn’t receive the most votes. If someone else wins-he or she did receive the most votes. It seems simple to me.

Not sure I understand the question, but I’ll take a stab at it.
If Gaga loses it will be because she didn’t receive the most votes. If someone else wins-he or she did receive the most votes. It seems simple to me.

It’s a popularity contest not actually about the person who logically deserved the award. But, I understand the concept behind these awards. It’s why I never watch the show and actually thought it had been cancelled years ago.

I also wonder if Kris regrets talking about his song being about his issues with Jive and the record making process and his dissatisfaction with it at the time. He seems to be backtracking now, but the story is still out there.

He’s backtracking? Where and how? I didn’t see this.

It seemed just weird to me in the context of an album review. It can be discussed in an interview but there it just seemed out of place. And stories don’t only relate to self but to other people too so I felt it awkward that he was bringing all back to Kris personal life

I mean if I wanted to know what Katy thought, I would look to an interview with her. It was supposed to be Brian Mansfield reviewing songs, so I would expect to see that, not the significant other suddenly brought reviewing songs. Besides that I think Kris seems pretty private about his relationship with his wife, not hiding it (shut up Simon) but he seems to want to keep his private life, private. So why go there with him? Just really odd choices by Brian Mansfield all the way around.

Every winner, every year has attended the AMA’s in some form even if it’s just as a presenter so I would hope Kris would at least be invited. Hopefully he’ll present too.

Really? Cool. When then I hope he’s a presenter. It will make the show even MORE idol-tastic.

hahaha that’s too funny. Jim C. knows that Shakira is a fav of Kris, look at the picture he posted!

http://twitpic.com/p25k3

I think this might be even more awkward than when Lyndsey Parker brought up Adam to Matthew Bellamy.

These guys need to put their Idol crushes down. Walk away from the idol crushes when not talking to Idol people.

It’s so nice that he’s willing to give the so-called ‘press’  plenty of copy. How accomodating.

A Rolling Stone reporter asked him a question. Adam answered. I don’t get what the problem with this is.

A Rolling Stone reporter asked him a question. Adam answered. I don’t get what the problem with this is.

You don’t have to “answer” every question presented to you.

Why do I have this feeling that Adam could be a walking time bomb? He seems to love the outspoken/outrageous.

You don’t have to ‘answer’  every question presented to you.

And you don’t have to be honest and/or snarky when doing so. Even if the person deserves it. It’s useless to engage people like that, or be defensive like that. Adam really needs to get a thicker skin about these things. Most of the time he seems to let stuff roll off him, but sometimes he just gets way too defensive and he doesn’t need to be, or does it do him any good.

It creates needless drama where there doesn’t have to be and certainly in terms of the timing, when there doesn’t neeed to be.

Basically, it was dumb. Mouth needs to connect more to brain sometimes, Adam.

These guys need to put their Idol crushes down. Walk away from the idol crushes when not talking to Idol people.

hmm I think it’s just good fun. It’s quite inoffensive to talk about your crushes. Why were you saying that btw?

These guys need to put their Idol crushes down. Walk away from the idol crushes when not talking to Idol people.

mm I think it’s just good fun. It’s quite inoffensive to talk about your crushes. Why were you saying that btw?

Eh, mostly it’s a cliche quote reference. ‘Put the gun down. Walk away from the gun. No one has to get hurt here today.’ And seriously I sometimes get secondhand embarrassment from these guys and their crushes.

I mean why does Shakira want to pose with a picture of Kris Allen? Do you think that was her idea? Possible? Sure. But more than likely Jim brought it up because he’s obsessed with Kris and so needs to bring him up to others as part of that. Which okay then. And again, same goes for like Slezak and Lyndsey if/when they do things like that.

Truthiness,
Jim, Slezak and Lyndsey are entertainers (more Jim though) and just imagine ways to inform and amuse people. It ain’t deep at all. Jim knows he’s getting plenty of good reactions and interest with the Kris stuff. Will he stop? of course no, it’s a winning formula .. at least until season 9 i think!

A Rolling Stone reporter asked him a question. Adam answered. I don’t get what the problem with this is.

The reporter asked a general question. Adam chose to bring up Gene Simmons – dude has a long memory for grudges.

Lots of Idols have been dissed by other musical acts. Better to take the high road. And old feuds are probably left better dead and buried.

I wouldn’t have publicly dissed Dylan either. Sure, the dude’s voice is shot, but it’s Dylan. LOL. Kanye you’re allowed to pick on these days (even if you run the risk of being accused of having sour grapes).

IDK. When Blake started dissing everybody and sundry, some people thought it wouldn’t have an effect, but it eventually did with a lot of people. I think it’s probably better not to be feuding with too many legends (even if they are asses or have voices past their “best by” dates).

I don’t think Blake’s music connected with the general public. He did piss some peeps off in the Idol world, but I don’t think that hurt his career.

I also don’t think Adam calling Gene Simmons a dick is that big of a deal. But I’m confused. Did he diss Dylan too? I haven’t gottem my RS yet.

Hey David Cook fans ‘“ He’s playing a sold out show in St. Louis tonight.

AND he’s singing THE new song he’s been talking about! Freaking out! Sounds like its called I Believe or Make Believe..?

For those interested in stuff from Brooke White –

Too many messages to sort through, so sorry if I missed it and you all knew about it.

From Brooke’s twitter. I just noticed it.

Alrighty so…yes, My 3 song iTunes exclusive Christmas EP is available today! I wasn’t expecting them until after thanksgiving:)
about 13 hours ago from Echofon

It’s the Live Sessions EP

Any music you don’t like?

I really respect Bob Dylan – but I just can’t get into his voice. And I’m not a huge Kanye West fan – or of rap in general – but he’s got sick visuals.

Kristen: Adam did not “diss” Dylan or say his voice was shot. He said he respected him but couldn’t get into his voice.
Adam didn’t “pick on” Kayne either. He said he wasn’t a fan and didn’t care much for rap.

Adam is not Blake. Blake’s media,exposure,talent,opportunities, are no where near Adam’s. How did Blake’s single and album end up doing? Did he get the RS cover? How about the AMA gig? Was he on Oprah? They are two separate artist from entirely different seasons and their paths are not the same.

You don’t have to ‘answer’  every question presented to you.

And you don’t have to be honest and/or snarky when doing so. Even if the person deserves it. It’s useless to engage people like that, or be defensive like that. Adam really needs to get a thicker skin about these things. Most of the time he seems to let stuff roll off him, but sometimes he just gets way too defensive and he doesn’t need to be, or does it do him any good.

I don’t understand why this is a problem. It is Adam being his usual straight forward, honest self. So far his honesty hasn’t hurt him. If you don’t like an unfiltered truth, then you won’t like Adam. Certainly there are going to be people who don’t like him for being so open, but on the other hand there are a lot of people who love him for being so candid. Why should he play it safe now, and give out the standard politically correct crap. There are going to be some people out there, that will take anything said by Adam and make a mountain out of a mole hill. What he said in Rolling Stone Magazine was a lot more shocking or controversial, than this little tempest. He survived that, then this is nothing more than pissing in the wind.

AND he’s singing THE new song he’s been talking about! Freaking out! Sounds like its called I Believe or Make Believe..?

I can’t wait to hear it without the underwater gurgling from a cellcast!

David Cook performed a new song in St Louis called “I Believe”

‘>> @Y98: Join @PaulCooked for a LIVE broadcast from the Halo Bar featuring @TheDavidCook, @TheScript @GRO Tuesday 3-7PM // [ MP3 Download, courtesy of BrazilianWNs ]‘  ‘“ http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JXCEA9HP

What a great interview! When the interviewer told David this?

This far away from anything that happened and the great opportunity with American Idol, you are doing this on your own — selling out venues.

Didn’t you pretty much hear David audibly preen?? Hee. Dork.

Also, I can’t believe he got restless to get back on the road during the last break after only two days at home of not doing anything. His schedule prior to that made me tired.

*sigh* He sounds so happy and content doing what’s he’s doing right now.

ETA: Whut? whut? whut? OMG! *flailing*

AND he’s singing THE new song he’s been talking about! Freaking out! Sounds like its called I Believe or Make Believe..?

Holy crap I almost shrieked and it’s 12:21 AM here.

AND he’s singing THE new song he’s been talking about! Freaking out! Sounds like its called I Believe or Make Believe..?

Okay, we need a Youtube of this NOW!

The song is called “Make Believe” confirmed by TC (the sound guy)

Here’s some lyrics floating on twitterland:
“Make believe that you give a damn… Just make believe”

Ah crap I’m SO not sleeping tonight! The cellcert sound wasn’t great but it sounded pretty rockin’! WOO!!

Now someone said it is “Make Believe”. I can not wait to hear it.

Kristen: Adam did not ‘diss’  Dylan or say his voice was shot.

I never said that Adam said Dylan’s voice was shot. I do happen to think he dissed him though. He could have just mentioned a general music style (like country) instead of mentioning specific artists.

The song is called ‘Make Believe’  confirmed by TC (the sound guy)

Here’s some lyrics floating on twitterland:
‘Make believe that you give a damn’ ¦ Just make believe’ 

That sounds great. I sure hope we get wordy Dave in this song.

Someone tweeted download of new DC song in ten minutes.

Adam is not Blake. Blake’s media,exposure,talent,opportunities, are no where near Adam’s. How did Blake’s single and album end up doing?

Two weeks before his album dropped, he was sitting on top of the world and many predicted he would outsell the girl who won. He’d just finished the AI tour where he got the loudest applause week-after-week while the girl who won had to put up with people leaving during her set. He couldn’t even go out for a bite to eat without being mobbed. He was looking forward to performances on morning news shows and talk shows (including the ratings leading late night talk show). He had a major gig lined up on one of the New Year’s Eve shows and he even had an episode of LA Ink dedicated to him. The future looked very bright.

Blake wasn’t always a punchline.

I never said that Adam said Dylan’s voice was shot. I do happen to think he dissed him though. He could have just mentioned a general music style (like country) instead of mentioning specific artists.

Agree with you Kirsten.
On the public scene, one has to use tact. He should learn that

Since we are discussing the dick comment in two threads now: From the other thread:

It didn’t just happen months ago. Gene Simmons called into Howard Stern on October 6th and trashed Adam AGAIN for coming out.

The issue was dead, then Gene brought it up again, not Adam. Here’s a summary of that interview:

Howard asked Gene about how he has managed and discovered bands over the years. He also claims that Adam Lambert has killed his career by coming out of the closet too early. Gene said that you have to take it off layer by layer and not just come right out and do it. Gene said it has nothing to do with being gay either. He said that you have to take the people through the process slowly and come out later in your career.
Gene said that Adam Lambert could have been in the band Queen and he would have been great as the lead singer there. He said that he turned it down though and that’s just a ‘ Duh’  in his opinion. Gene said that he told the kid that he’s very talented and he should really just be quiet. He said the next thing he knew he was coming out of the closet and doing Britney Spears poses.

From here: http://frehleygirlshideaway.yuku.com/reply/75481/t/Howard-Stern-Interviews-Gene-10-6-09.html

Someone tweeted download of new DC song in ten minutes.

I don’t know if I can wait that long. Lol

Whether you like his music or not Bob Dylan is a icon so he really is untouchable.

Blake wasn’t always a punchline.

I think if Blake had put out Heartbreak on Vinyl instead off ADD for his debut album, things would have turned out differently for him. Also, I’ve never thought of Blake as a punchline. Perhaps because I wasn’t on the blogs during S6 at all and only started peeking in after S7 finished that I missed it.

“Someone tweeted download of new DC song in ten minutes.”

EEEE!!!!! Where??? And why didn’t he do this at the last show? The one that I was at? Oh who cares… has it been 10 minutes yet? Time is standing still!

nvm

Now it could be more like an hour until we get to hear DC’s new song, since the new tweet says the YouTube message says it will take that long. Well, we’ve waited this long, I guess we can manage another hour..

Whether you like his music or not Bob Dylan is a icon so he really is untouchable.

No one is untouchable or so iconic they can’t, or shouldn’t be questioned or that people can’t not like them. I mean, I don’t get not liking The Beatles, but some do and that’s fine. But I am also fine with someone saying ‘I don’t like them, but I respect the hell out of them.’ Same as for Kayne. I personally can’t stand most rap either, but I respect it overall as a genre and there have been some parts and people who created things, that I respect what they created.

And frankly my attitude towards Dylan has always been exactly Adam’s, which was I respect the guy for what he created and what he did, his musical importance, but his voice and most of his music, does nothing for me. Not only does it do nothing for me, I can’t listen to too much of it. I grew up with my mom loving Dylan and hearing a lot of it, and liking some of earlier stuff. But the guy’s voice is nasally and became really shot later on. Now people don’t have to have great voices and can still be admired, but it’s nothing wrong to say their voices aren’t great.

Now it could be more like an hour until we get to hear DC’s new song, since the new tweet says the YouTube message says it will take that long. Well, we’ve waited this long, I guess we can manage another hour..

That will be almost 2 in the morning. If my mom finds out I’ll be hung. It’s worth it I guess.

It didn’t just happen months ago. Gene Simmons called into Howard Stern on October 6th and trashed Adam AGAIN for coming out.

Everybody pretty much knows Gene is a dick (or they don’t know about him at all). I get to call him a dick because I didn’t duet with him (i.e. work with him) and he’s not a legend in my industry.

Gene isn’t going to give a crap because he just loves the press. He’s all for a public feud. The problem is that it is much like wrestling with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it. More fun for the tabloids. But feuds create credibility problems. Let it go. Take the high road.

Sorry guys but now the tweet says 1 hour but here is a pic of David from Vegas night with David Wright: http://twitpic.com/p2zlw

I’m by no means an “Adam defender” if I think he’s overly defensive. Like when he tweeted about his album cover being campy and thanking those who “got it.” Well, some of us understood what he was going for and still thought it looked cheap.

I don’t see anything wrong with the comments he made as they are posted here. I guess when I read them in context my mind could change, but I doubt it. Sounds honest to me. I don’t need my artists to be PC. That would be boring. I like both Dylan and Kanye and I’m not turned off by his comments in the least. If a friend of mine disliked my favorite artist, I wouldn’t end the friendship. So, if I like an artist and they don’t particularly care for another artist I support, big whoop.

ETA: I know Idol is about personality almost as much as singing. But the kids are off the show now and don’t have to nod and bite their tongues.

He sounds so happy and content doing what’s he’s doing right now.

He *looks* so happy and content. I’ve only recently realized, from looking at the vids of shows from earlier in the year, how sad he really was. He never gave less than 110%, and he did his fair share of joking around, but now it’s obvious how bittersweet the tour must have been at that time.

In some of the vids from the Texas stops he’s clearly having a hard time *not* smiling, never mind breaking up. It’s good to see and I’m so happy for him.

And I’m happy for *me* because, woo, new music from Allison tonight and now DC? Riches!

My question remains- how did Blake’s single and cd end up doing?

In the end, not all that well. How did Adam’s CD do? We don’t know yet. So, maybe he should wait until he’s a mega-recording star before he gets involved in Lindsey Lohan style feuds with other artists.

Did he get to DEBUT HIS SINGLE on the AMA’s? Was he on Oprah and asked to come back? (LAink does not compare to this) Was he on the cover of Rolling Stone?

Adam is the biggest thing that Idol ever produced. He’s epic. The industry loves him. Since nobody has ever debuted their single on the AMAs, been asked to be on Oprah twice before the album has even gone to print or been on the cover of Rolling Stone two weeks after Idol, clearly, he’s bigger than any other Idol and will soon prove it. He can diss everybody including Dylan because he’s ADAM. Blake meanwhile should have shut his mouth prior to his album release because he had no such things and he would eventually be doomed to failure. Leno, Regis, Ellen, GMA, New Year’s Eve…all pale in comparison.

Have I got it right?

Gene isn’t going to give a crap because he just loves the press. He’s all for a public feud. The problem is that it is much like wrestling with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it. More fun for the tabloids. But feuds create credibility problems. Let it go. Take the high road.

Exactly. There is no point in engaging someone like Gene. Why bother? You’re not going to change his mind or anyone else’s about him. Why even engage him? It’s counter-productive and useless.

Adam needs to get a thicker skin. Most of the time he seems like he’s fine, but once and a while he gets defensive/reactive and doesn’t engage the brain and think long-term. I mean Adam even admitted he was defensive on Ryan’s show in his Tweet about the cover and was basically like ‘my bad.’ Which okay, but he needs to get over it before he does it. I don’t think he means it maliciously, I just think he sometimes reacts rather than thinks things through.

Wow..hostile much? I do think there’s a big difference between someone snarking on someone’s talent and someone telling them basically to deny who they are and to lie to the public and stay in the closet because of their sexuality. People have snarked that Adam’s not for them, that he screeches, etc and his response has been to say “that’s fine, I’m not for everyone, buy the other guys record.” Gene Simmons basically said that Adam should lie about who he is because obviously being gay is such an offense that it’s enough to ruin his career. Not once but twice. I’m sorry, that’s not something I’d sit still for. That would be like telling me to hide my enthnicity because I can pass for white, when I’m actually hispanic. It would be to deny who I am at my core. So yeah, I see Adam’s defensiveness when it comes to what Gene said about his sexuality. I wouldn’t put up with anyone telling me to do what Gene did, no matter how politically incorrect people may deem me for responding when questioned what my feelings on the subject are.

Some of the people on ontd_ai are freaking a little because of this tweet…

RT @SpotlightonIdol Adam Lambert and Kris Allen on the list for the TV Guide Party tonight in Beverly Hills. Let’s see if they show

UPDATE:
Adam’s there but Kris evidently hasn’t shown up yet (Maybe he went to the Mat Kearney concert instead? Or just stayed home?)

there’s over 1000 comments on the ontd_ai thread about this. Slow news day is slow, evidently…

I do think there’s a big difference between someone snarking on someone’s talent and someone telling them basically to deny who they are and to lie to the public and stay in the closet because of their sexuality.

I don’t think that I’ve seen anybody defend Gene. I think we all agree he’s an a$$. He’s been an a$$ for years. He will be an a$$ for years to come. Getting into a feud with him will only make him happy. Why would anybody want to make that a$$ happy? Who needs his tacky feud? Being involved in a tacky feud just makes you look tacky. I mean come-on, he said something bad about you so you say something bad about him? That went out of style in the third grade. Take the high road.

So this new song is something David C wrote?

New song DC wrote, a professional Photographer posted this and states he will post more with a little nice comment under the pic: http://ishootshows.com/2009/11/10/david-cook-preview/

Wow..hostile much?

If you mean me? actually not at all.

I’m exasperated with Adam, because I think he didn’t need to say what he did and in the way he did it. And I think his timing sucks. And my larger point is that I think sometimes Adam can react to things defensively when he doesn’t need to. Case in point, the cover. Again, even he admitted that he acted defensively, so I don’t think it’s an untoward thing to say. And like with his cover, there was a better way, or no way, to handle either the criticism or to try and get his point across. Adam might have had a valid point about it being deliberately camp, and not meant to be taken seriously, but the ‘if you don’t get it,’ crap was defensive and unnecessarily snarky. Which again, Adam himself bascially admitted he didn’t react the right way.

So I’m just saying is going to this being reactive/defensive sometimes, is something he needs to work on. The stuff about what Gene Simmons saying was nasty, so what? Gene Simmons is a nasty idiot, why feel the need to engage him? Of if he did, just keep to something that kept to the spirit of the larger point, which would be ‘I’m not going to stay in the closet, just so I can be a success, and I don’t need someone telling me I need to compromise who I am, to do so. That I feel that we’ve moved on in this country enough, and either I’m a success as who I am, or I’m not, but I’m not going to hide that.’ No need to call him a dick and say he can’t sing. Even though both are true.

It’s called tact and while Adam may evince it almost all the time, sometimes it leaves him completely and he says/does boneheaded things.

I mean come-on, he said something bad about you so you say something bad about him? That went out of style in the third grade. Take the high road.

I haven’t seen the whole article. I don’t know the question that was asked of Adam, the scan wasn’t good enough. I don’t know if they quoted Gene and what he said. I don’t know the context of the question. But yeah, sorry, for those things that I believe are important enough? I would definitely respond and speak my mind. Some things are worth risking a little backlash for. There are some things that aren’t important enough and I might swallow for the sake of keeping the peace, something as important to Adam and the fundamental way he lives his life, openly and proudly, or to me like my core values and beliefs, I’d respond, I know I would, because I have.

Adam is not Blake. Blake’s media,exposure,talent,opportunities, are no where near Adam’s.

Blake and Adam should not be mentioned in the same sentence. Please, Adam has more talent in one strand of his hair, then Blake had in his whole body. Not counting the fact, that Adam has a great voice and was the star of season 8 and the American Idol tour. Blake should have never made the top ten, let alone be runner up in one of the weakest seasons that show ever had.

Oh, and on a different and much cooler note….a new David Cook song and performed live?

I really am looking forward to that. So cool.

Truthiness
11/11/2009 at 1:21 am
Wow..hostile much?

Actually not at all.

I wasn’t referencing you. I was talking about the Blake/Adam discussion.

He *looks* so happy and content. I’ve only recently realized, from looking at the vids of shows from earlier in the year, how sad he really was. He never gave less than 110%, and he did his fair share of joking around, but now it’s obvious how bittersweet the tour must have been at that time.

Yup. I think he tried as hard as he could, but you could see it in between the banter and the jokes. So glad he had Neal and Andy around with him during this tour.

Hee. The concert photog from tonight may have gotten accidentally Cookified:

Todd Owyoung (ishootshows.com): If there’s one thing that I took away from this show, it’s that David Cook is a bona fide rock star ‘“ the real deal, no doubt.

Also, he done did another walkabout:

>> @faerieswing Oh sh** he just came up here to the balcony, what the f***!? Omg!
>> Dave reportedly went on walkabout through the crowd during Declaration – including upstairs … @MinnTee tweeted: “[Dave] Said he got 20 high fives and 3 ass grabs!”

Oh well, the last time he came off the stage to get in the middle of the crowd, he said some guy tickled him.

But yeah, sorry, for those things that I believe are important enough? I would definitely respond and speak my mind. Some things are worth risking a little backlash for.

I agree with this. If he’d answered like Truthiness suggested (‘I’m not going to stay in the closet, just so I can be a success, and I don’t need someone telling me I need to compromise who I am, to do so. That I feel that we’ve moved on in this country enough, and either I’m a success as who I am, or I’m not, but I’m not going to hide that.’), I would think that was an excellent answer.

I don’t know the question that was asked of Adam, the scan wasn’t good enough.

Here is what we can see of the question and the question prior to it:

Question: When you put your album cover online, it got a lot of criticism for being too campy and too [blur - gay?]

Answer: But that’s what I was like on Idol. When I did “Ring of Fire” that was pretty camp, so I don’t understand why the cover is a surprise. People are forgetting me at my wildest – with platform boots and rhinestones around my eyes. Is the album cover that much of a departure? Hunky Dory and Velvet Goldmine were a big inspiration, along with old Poison and Motley Crue covers. It’s fun-it’s supposed to be kind of campy.

Question: Do you think some people feel differently about you since you came out?

Answer: Gene Simmons spouted something, that he thought I’d ruined my career by coming out. He’s obnoxious, and what a hypocrite – all he talks about is his sex life. He was being a dick – and he’s not the greatest singer. I guess he’s a good businessman. I’ll give him that.

[no, I didn't spend a lot of time typing that out. I just type fast and find that text easy to read (except for the last part of that first question)]

Nice twitpic of Adam from tonight’s TV Guide Party.

http://twitpic.com/p2t88

In the end, not all that well. How did Adam’s CD do? We don’t know yet. So, maybe he should wait until he’s a mega-recording star

Well, it’s doing pretty good right now! I’m hopeful about it!

Adam is the biggest thing that Idol ever produced. He’s epic. The industry loves him. Since nobody has ever debuted their single on the AMAs, been asked to be on Oprah twice before the album has even gone to print or been on the cover of Rolling Stone two weeks after Idol, clearly, he’s bigger than any other Idol and will soon prove it. He can diss everybody including Dylan because he’s ADAM. Blake meanwhile should have shut his mouth prior to his album release because he had no such things and he would eventually be doomed to failure. Leno, Regis, Ellen, GMA, New Year’s Eve’ ¦all pale in comparison.

Have I got it right?

Sure! Sounds good to me!

Except for I love Kelly and I think no one is going to be able to touch Carrie. I also think the two Davids have put up some pretty impressive numbers over the last year and have just begun their careers.

Do I think getting an American Idol winner or runner-up getting on the morning or late night shows is something unusual? No. Neither is the GMA concert. But these are things we can look forward to.

Do I think being on the cover of RS, Oprah appearances, and debuting your single on the AMAs is unusual? Yes.

I guess I just don’t understand what Adam and Blake have to do with each other at this point in their AI post-careers. Concerning Blake, I don’t know what he should have done or not done regarding his record company. I was never a big fan, so I don’t feel the need to follow him and comment on him all the time. I don’t wish him failure, I just don’t care.

Reading the RS quote and putting it into context with Simmons’ initial idiotic comments, I have no problem with the substance of Adam’s remark. I just wish he’d said it better and maybe chosen a different place to say it. The substantive part of the quote is that Simmons yaks about his own sexuality all the time — and gets away with or even gets admiration for it — because his mouthing off doesn’t offend the delicate, default heteronormative sensibilities of the general public.

Why doesn’t Adam have that same privilege? Because he’s gay and when he talks about his sexuality, he’s addressing a topic that heterosexuals are allowed to talk about freely but gay people (still) are not, without making some listeners uncomfortable. Too which I say grow the fuck up and so, sort of, did Adam, but I’m not sure that came across.

I agree that Simmons’ criticism of Adam for talking about his sexuality is the epitome of hypocrisy, blind privilege and arrogant dickishness, so yes, Adam should be able to call him out on that. *Anyone and everyone* should call him out on that.

I just wish Adam had said that more clearly — or maybe he did and it was edited — because unfortunately, Kirsten is right: The problem is that it is much like wrestling with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it.

Should Adam have said nothing and ignored the whole thing? No, because what Simmons said was really offensive. Adam has the right to say something and one could argue that not saying something would be worse. The problem is doing it via the entertainment media, who have editing power and the ability to dilute the important message and turn the whole thing into a trivial diversion for web page hits and sound bites.

So that’s the gamble a celebrity takes, I guess, when they try to address an important topic. Picking the right venue, which IMO isn’t a snappish answer (complete with a non sequiter swipe at Simmons’ singing abilities (even if true!)) to a generic question that did not mention Simmons, in an article mostly about music, is probably key.

Answer: Gene Simmons spouted something, that he thought I’d ruined my career by coming out. He’s obnoxious, and what a hypocrite ‘“ all he talks about is his sex life.

Dammit! He should stopped right there! That would have been the perfect answer IMO.

I wasn’t referencing you. I was talking about the Blake/Adam discussion.

Phew! Because I’m not you know. I just play one on the internets.

Answer: Gene Simmons spouted something, that he thought I’d ruined my career by coming out. He’s obnoxious, and what a hypocrite ‘“ all he talks about is his sex life.

Dammit! He should stopped right there! That would have been the perfect answer IMO.

I agree. That was, I totally think, an appropriate response. But than snark tongue got too far out ahead of brain. Bad tonuge! Only go out in singing to make cool ass high notes.

While we’re waiting for the new song (which should be any minute now), here’s a new pic to tide you over: http://twitpic.com/p30nq. Yum.

Adam is the biggest thing that Idol ever produced. He’s epic. The industry loves him. Since nobody has ever debuted their single on the AMAs, been asked to be on Oprah twice before the album has even gone to print or been on the cover of Rolling Stone two weeks after Idol, clearly, he’s bigger than any other Idol and will soon prove it. He can diss everybody including Dylan because he’s ADAM.

Really? Seriously?

This reminds me of the old Hollywood saying: Be kind to the people you meet on the way up, because they’re the same people you’ll meet on the way down.

Really? Seriously?

I wasn’t being serious.

This reminds me of the old Hollywood saying: Be kind to the people you meet on the way up, because they’re the same people you’ll meet on the way down.

Yep.

Ross: No, not seriously. Kristen was being sarcastic. I don’t think she really meant that at all. Go read back a page and you’ll see.

And if Adam has to “be nice” to people like Gene Simmons on the way up, I’m betting he would chose to remain true to himself over moving up. It seems to be the path he has chosen so far and it doesn’t appear to be hurting him.

Truthiness
11/11/2009 at 1:21 am

No need to call him a dick and say he can’t sing. Even though both are true.

I dunno, Truthi — this just struck me funny! His legacy on a tombstone:

Here Lies
Gene Simmons

“He’s a Dick and He Can’t Sing”

Oh — I thought it was someone else being serious. LOL! My mistake–I’m half asleep! But I do love that saying.

ross
11/11/2009 at 1:46 am

Adam is the biggest thing that Idol ever produced. He’s epic. The industry loves him. Since nobody has ever debuted their single on the AMAs, been asked to be on Oprah twice before the album has even gone to print or been on the cover of Rolling Stone two weeks after Idol, clearly, he’s bigger than any other Idol and will soon prove it. He can diss everybody including Dylan because he’s ADAM.

Really? Seriously?

Be kind to the people you meet on the way up, because they’re the same people you’ll meet on the way down.

Ummm..no, not really. It was snark. You’d have to have read the previous posts to get it. Also, as far as being kind to others? There’s been few this season of AI kinder or more supportive to fellow idols, collaborators or co-workers than Adam has. He has publicly praised every single one of them, been branded the “camp counselor” by them, tweeted publicly to support their record deals, singles and albums and offered his gratitude and praise to those he’s worked with and especially those he fanboys..lol. I don’t think that will be a problem for him.

Hee. The concert photog from tonight may have gotten accidentally Cookified

Thanks, Keel. That quote is fantastic and has the beauty of being true. Heh!

The photographer’s samples are quite beautiful as well (and not just the one of DC). I’m really looking forward to more photos. It’s funny, I’ve gotten so used to blurry twitpics and videos from amateur cameras that can’t handle the concert lighting that when I see professional shots it kind of takes my breath away. I mean, he’s hard to handle when he’s all fuzzy — when he’s well lit and in focus, well. There should be a warning label or something.

Make Believe!

FLAILS

Some parts get a little too much static probably from the camera being too close to the stage but gah LOVE.

Kirsten, I think you and I will just have to agree to disagree. I’ve read your posts and understand where you’re coming from and respect your feelings on the subject, I think we just disagree in how we’d handle it or how Adam handled it. That’s fine, I can live with that. Adam will have to live with the way he handled the situation, and while he may have to deal with some backlash, I think he’s probably happier that he spoke his feelings. I’m not him though, so I don’t really know. I do appreciate the thoughtful discussion though.

Adam is the biggest thing that Idol ever produced. He’s epic. The industry loves him. Since nobody has ever debuted their single on the AMAs, been asked to be on Oprah twice before the album has even gone to print or been on the cover of Rolling Stone two weeks after Idol, clearly, he’s bigger than any other Idol and will soon prove it. He can diss everybody including Dylan because he’s ADAM.

Really? Seriously?

I think they’re being snarky. I hope so.

And I did have some issues with what Adam said about Gene Simmons, but in no way do I think he was dissing Dylan.

He was asked what kind of music he didn’t like, he started out by saying “I really respect Bob Dylan – but I just can’t get into his voice. And I’m not a huge Kanye West fan – or of rap in general – but he’s got sick visuals.” Yes, because starting out by saying how much you respect someone, but just can’t et into their voice, is a HUGE diss.

Clearly everyone who isn’t into Adam’s voice, even if they respect him, is dissing him.

Isn’t that what some critics of Adam’s say? They’re just not a fan of how high his voice goes, or some of those notes he does, they prefer other types of voices. More lower register types of voices. I don’t consider that dissing. I consider that saying that they can’t get into his voice.

I can’t get into Dylan’s voice. I tried. I respect the hell out of him. He was a force of music and my mom played him a lot, but nope. Not one of my faves. I feel, to a lesser degree (because they weren’t as iconic) that way about The Grateful Dead. My mom used to play them a lot, I wished I liked them, tried to, nope, I don’t like them. Respect them, though again, not as much as Dylan, but personal tastes, not my cuppa.

Make Believe was awesome!!!!!!!!!!! I just passed out. I have to go to bed now. But that kicked butt.

Ummm..no, not really. It was snark. You’d have to have read the previous posts to get it.

I did read a lot of the thread but guess I missed that. Sorry if I got it wrong.

And Bob Dylan is a little more than a singer, isn’t he? He’s also a great songwriter. I don’t know. Adam’s comment was mild, but still, for a newcomer who has not accomplished anything like what Dylan has, to even criticize him at all just struck me as presumptuous.

ross
11/11/2009 at 1:58 am
Ummm..no, not really. It was snark. You’d have to have read the previous posts to get it.

I did read a lot of the thread but guess I missed that. Sorry if I got it wrong.

Sorry Ross, I probably came across snarky and I didn’t mean to. It’s late, I apologize.

Oh.. Make Believe is so hot it nearly fried the video recorder.

CindyM, I Love who you are and so does Adam . Cheer Up!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_YSUp87cuo

No problem, CindyM. I probably should have read this stuff more carefully.

Even Dylan admits he hasn’t got the greatest voice. Dylan is not about the voice. Nobody listening to him expects to hear opera-quality vocals. That’s not the point. It’s kind of like saying that you can’t get into the Dalai Lama because he has lousy fashion sense. And I’m not saying everybody has to listen to Dylan or have a picture of the Dalai Lama on their wall (or follow his sartorial stylings)

Kind of funny that two artists that Kris likes (Dylan/Kanye) got special mention for music Adam doesn’t like. There must have been some interesting musical discussions in that room.

Oh dear. I really, really need to hear “Make Believe” with better sound, but I can’t say it’s love at first listen. It sounds a lot like “Souvenir,” which is not one of my favorites. I’m hoping with better sound it will prove to have a more distinctive melody. Come on, Dave, I know you’ve got those in you!

ETA: Oh man, thank you 123abc456! That’s *much* better — I can hear the melody and I *like* it. Whew. And the performance was blazing hot. I can sleep happy now. *g*

Better version of “Make Believe” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36NMBuy9g2s

Fabulosity
11/11/2009 at 2:03 am
CindyM, I Love who you are and so does Adam . Cheer Up!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_YSUp87cuo

Thanks, loved it. What a smile and hearing Michael Jackson sing it? Fantastic!

This is the other guitarist in Kris’ band — Andrew DeRoberts

http://www.myspace.com/andrewderoberts

Kind of funny that two artists that Kris likes (Dylan/Kanye) got special mention for music Adam doesn’t like. There must have been some interesting musical discussions in that room.

LOL, yep, Adam with Lady Gaga and Katy Perry love on one side of the room and Kris with Dylan and Kanye on the other. But at least they have Paul McCartney in common!

never read that Kris likes Dylan. do you remember where you saw this?

Adam’s comment was mild, but still, for a newcomer who has not accomplished anything like what Dylan has, to even criticize him at all just struck me as presumptuous.

Why does not liking voice make someone presumptuous? Dylan’s voice is definitely an acquired taste when it was good, and not it’s shot. Not like Adam wasn’t saying that Dylan didn’t deserve respect for who he is, he starts out saying he really respects him. So yeah, respecting the contribution of the guy, just not digging the vocals. And really c’mon, who is going to say Dylan has great vocals? Or even if he did, it’s fine just not to find it one’s cuppa. And again, not like he didn’t realize the man was worthy of respect, because that’s what he gave him.

People can go, ‘I really respect Maria Callas, but I just can’t get into her voice.’ Which is fine. Opera isn’t for everyone, but respect for a major opera diva.

I would get the diss aspect if Adam hasn’t started out giving Dylan huge props, and keeping why he personally couldn’t get into someone worthy of respect, based (for him), strictly on the vocals.

Adam’s being a newbie has nothing to do with it, imho. Dylan isn’t @god, he isn’t untouchable. Everything he doesn’t have to be liked by everyone. What Adam voiced is valid for everyone, we all have different musical tastes and can express those personal tastes, and we don’t have to be “expert,” enough or whatever, to express those personal tastes.

never read that Kris likes Dylan. do you remember where you saw this?

I’ve seen it in a few places. I’m pretty sure that it’s in the EW interview he did with Slezak.

He’d been hoping to sing Dylan on the show and was thrilled when he could get a Dylan song in through the back door (during Country week, he was able to sing Dylan’s “To Make You Feel My Love” because it had been covered by Garth Brooks).

that’s right Kirsten. However, he has a knack to find good songs and Dylan is a damn good writer. Personnaly i like Dylan’s songs without being a fan of his voice. After all he might be a fan, i dont know.
I remember in an interview on a LLWD question, he mentions doing this Dylan thing that some people noticed.

Adam twitpic from the tvguide party

http://twitpic.com/p2t88

Tweets from the Party:

PICS FROM TONIGHT!!!
TheInfamousPJ: Adam Lambert, Julie Benz, Cast of Melrose, [...] just to name a few here at the TV Guide Party!

RT @TVGuideMagazine: Adam Lambert signing autographs and posing for photos with fans outside the Hot List party in LA.
RT: TVGuideMagEIC: Just saw Adam Lambert talking to Busy Phillips and Jesse Tyler Ferguson.
RT: Busyphilipps25: Just had an amazing interaction with Adam Lambert. He knew he knew me from somewhere but couldn’t place it. Amazing.
RT ClaudeKelly: alexanderdeleon I’m supposed 2 tell @claudekelly that Adam lambert says “whaddup whaddup.” <==Tell Adam i said "Howdy!!!"
RT: ScoobyDoo99: I just had an amazing interaction w/Adam Lambert. He thought he knew me from the cartoon network but wasn't sure. Amazing.
TheInfamousPJ: Adam Lambert looks great and is so sweet @adamissexable @canyon_of_light @vote4adam He is having a great time.
RT @samantharonson: Just met @adamlambert, what a sweetheart. Can't wait to hear his record!

i was expecting to see tonight the videos of the other songs that Kris did at the vineyard. a bit disappointed on that. likely we’ll see those tomorrow

More tweets from the Hot TV Guide party:

samantharonson:Just met @adamlambert, what a sweetheart. Can’t wait to hear his record!
*(and she also has 1.322.089 followers!)

MegMasters: Also, for the record, @adamlambert is one of the nicest, most sincere people I’ve ever had the pleasure of interviewing.
9 minutes ago from web

jessetyler: @adamlambert how has this not happened yet? Good running into u tonight. Seriously so happy for you! I count myself as an uber fan!
(Jesse Tyler Ferguson from Modern Family)

ChadDarnell: So much fun at the TV Guide party! Met the cast of GLEE, Adam Lambert and so many others. Great pics too with Pauley and Adam.

Has anyone heard? Did Kris end up going to this party? Ontd-ai was thinking that both Adam and Kris would be there.

That’s not the point. It’s kind of like saying that you can’t get into the Dalai Lama because he has lousy fashion sense. And I’m not saying everybody has to listen to Dylan or have a picture of the Dalai Lama on their wall (or follow his sartorial stylings)

But it is the point when the question specifically is about music and why musically you don’t get into it. For your Dalai Lama analogy to be similiar, it really would be asking if you liked his fashion sense and you going, ‘I really respect the whole dressing according to being a leader of a religion, but I really don’t like yellows, they make me look sallow.’ The actual question put to Adam was about music, so Adam answered with music he didn’t like, and based solely on the basis of music.

So Dylan’s being other things, are really irrelevant to Adam’s answer about why he couldn’t get into Dylan’s vocals, and thus his music. Adam dealt with all of Dylan’s stuff with words of respect, and kept his answer solely to the focus of the question, what music and why.

Oh and yellow really does make me look sallow, yet another reason I would not make a good Buddhist monk.

I’m getting the feeling that Monte Pittman is definitely going to be in the band playing with Adam.

His recent tweets:

sitting at the computer figuring out “Time For Miracles”…and so it begins…
9:27 AM Oct 20th from web

@mandilove1980 haha. I meant the chord progression
8:47 AM Oct 21st from web in reply to mandilove1980

Ryan Seacrest – 102.7FM – 6:55am. ( I heard the whole album and I think it’s incredible. It’s going to be smoking live! New band is awesome
1:33 AM Oct 30th from web (That’s the time when Ryan debuted FYE, if I’m not mistaken)

headed to rehearsal: day 1
about 11 hours ago from web

today’s rehearsal was very … entertaining…
about 1 hour ago from web

I think it will be really cool if it’s true. Monte and Adam go way back and it will be nice for him to have someone playing with him who has such a close relationship, not to mention he’s a kickass guitarist.

thedavidcook
Fun night in the Lou. Thanks for all the positive vibes on “Make Believe”.

thedavidcook
More surprises in store…

…Okay, maybe he’s having a little *too* much fun. Way to keep me up past a reasonable bed time, dude.

gemini1

Doesn’t appear that Kris went to the party. Either that or he finally got the superpower he was quoted as being the one he wanted (invisibility) because no photos of him from tonight and no tweets claiming to have seen him

Allison’s song is dropping like a stone on the iTunes charts — #100 in pop and #413 overall

WTF is going on with this?

New photos of Adam from tonight…

http://www.wireimage.com/SearchResults.aspx?igi=402553&s=adam%20lambert&sfld=C&vwmd=e

New photos of Adam from tonight’ ¦

http://www.wireimage.com/SearchResults.aspx?igi=402553&s=adam%20lambert&sfld=C&vwmd=e

So once again, Adam is looking like a glammed out figure from the wild West? I mean that brooch looks like a badge to me, and the rest with the coat and boots and all, I’m just saying. Well I guess sherrif is a step up from the 1800′s barkeep look of the AMA announcements.

Oh and I like his hair more here.

Allison’s song is dropping like a stone on the iTunes charts ‘” #100 in pop and #413 overall

WTF is going on with this?

Well hell. But I’ve read she’s going to start doing a radio tour starting Nov. 16th and she got like 5 adds yesterday from Top 40 stations, IIRC, so hopefully this will help. That lack of support thus for Allison has not been happy making, but seems like there will some stuff in the works for her.

Oh and the quality is for crap, even of the better one, but I think I like David Cook’s new song. Really hard to tell, of course, but from what I heard of the melody line, I liked it.

I loves it!!! David Cook’s new song Make Believe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36NMBuy9g2s

Also loved his immediate reaction: like kissing a girl?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GziPoQiIBbk

and this is oh so suh-sweeeeeet: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dizzysyd/4091246393/in/set-72157622772150540/

Thanks for the David Cook links. It seems like a good song, but with the sound mix I feel like he’s competing with the band during the chorus…hoping for better sound in the future.

Answer: Gene Simmons spouted something, that he thought I’d ruined my career by coming out. He’s obnoxious, and what a hypocrite ‘“ all he talks about is his sex life. He was being a dick ‘“ and he’s not the greatest singer. I guess he’s a good businessman. I’ll give him that.

It’s one thing to call Gene a dick, but to put down the singing of fellow artists? Particularly those who have been in the industry for so long and are no longer in their prime? Not classy. It comes off as particularly arrogant in Adam’s case because he probably is aware that a lot of people think he is a very gifted singer. I generally don’t have a problem with a lot of things Adam says. He can use the word “twat”, talk about his drug history and say that some of his fans are smelly for all I care. However, insulting those who are obviously not as good singers as you are is not cool. I’ve also seen enough interviews to know that Adam knows how to be diplomatic when it matters to him. It’s not like he doesn’t have a filter.

Another great video of Make Believe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_glFJwNkKek

and banter about little girl gave DC a rose
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwRLhY1susY

and..awww.. http://twitpic.com/p38t5

You can buy Kris’ music video for LLWD on iTunes now. Yay!

Lots of photos of Adam at 2 different parties last night popping up all over the web…

moved to another thread

Yay! I just bought Kris’ video and also checked out the pass. It has ‘From The Ashes’ listed with the pass now. I’m very happy about that.