Idol Headlines for 10/19/09

Didn’t know Whitney is 46. My mom is 51 and she looks 10 years younger than Whitney LOL

Didn’t know Whitney is 46. My mom is 51 and she looks 10 years younger than Whitney LOL

Thats what a little hard living will do for ya… Makes a good argument for “Don’t do drugs, stay in school”.

Now that the Full version of TfM is on Rolling Stone and the continue to add countries in Europe — France and Greece in past 24 hours — I wonder if they will decide to release TfM for sale in the US before 10/27/09 MV premiere?

Thats what a little hard living will do for ya’ ¦ Makes a good argument for ‘Don’t do drugs, stay in school’ .

Whitney dropped out of school?

Questions were also raised about Houston’s physical condition as she looked drowsy and did not speak clearly when being interviewed by host Dermot O’Leary.

Paula Abdul part two

I like this part of the Rolling Stone review of Time For Miracles:

On the track, Lambert proves how flexible his pipes truly are, effortlessly shifting from heartfelt, Ryan Adams-esque verses ‘” complete with what sounds like a pedal steel guitar ‘” to swelling arena-rock chorus. Throughout, Lambert’s incredible voice, which moved Queen’s Brian May ‘to jelly’  when he heard the song this summer, shines through.

I’ll be honest, I was worried that Adam wouldn’t sound like “Adam” and TFM has restored my faith that Cavallo at least, understands the importance of letting Adam’s voice shine through. I figured he did, from his tweets and comments regarding Adam’s vocal ability, but it’s nice that TFM is an example.

I kinda want to see video of Whitney on X factor and at the same time, I kinda don’t. I think it will hurt my feelings too much.

That Dylan vs Archie article is hilarious. The comments are even funnier though. LOL.

I think we are going to see the next episode of Glee in spoilers before it airs.

Here is the Slushee Extended Mix from Hulu (youtube link so that we can all see it).

There is also a bad clip of Rachel singing “What a Girl Wants” with Puck. (I’m not saying that Rachel is bad. Just the quality of the clip).

It is getting harder to argue that the European release was a mere accident.

Thats what a little hard living will do for ya’ ¦ Makes a good argument for ‘Don’t do drugs, stay in school’ .

Whitney dropped out of school?

I have no idea… but thats what is spewed out of every PSA targeting kids these days. Think Nancy Regan. LOL

tinawina I feel the same way. I couldn’t watch the reality show with Bobby Brown because I hate thinking of her that way. She had it all and destroyed it for crack. I really wished her great come back but it seems it’s not happening.

Great to see all the positive articles about Taylor Hicks. He’s living his dream for sure.

Before I do it, is there a good reason to wait to buy Time for Miracles? Why not just purchase it though itunes in France or Greece?

Wait a minute? Rolling Stone is comparing Mr. Lambert’s “heartfelt” singing to the organic singer-songwriter Ryan Adams? Oh my …

It is getting harder to argue that the European release was a mere accident.

But what is the logic for releasing TFM early in some European countries?

tinawina I feel the same way. I couldn’t watch the reality show with Bobby Brown because I hate thinking of her that way. She had it all and destroyed it for crack. I really wished her great come back but it seems it’s not happening.

I know what you mean. I watched a bit of that reality show then I had to stop. 1. because she was just so far gone, and it was hard to watch her and especially her daughter dealing with all that and 2. She looked a tad like my sister, and it was freaking me out. Ha.

I really hope she pulls it together one day.

Nancy Reagan dropped of school, too?

But what is the logic for releasing TFM early in some European countries?

Nobody has been able to discern a shred of logic in what happened with the “release” of Time for Miracles in Italy early Saturday morning.

I am really hoping that Whitney will see future success and peace in her life in the future. The Oprah interview was difficult to watch, even her speaking voice sounds wrecked to me. I wish her nothing but the best for her career and life.

hwc
October 19, 2009 at 11:05 am
Nancy Reagan dropped of school, too?

LOL!

Nobody has been able to discern a shred of logic in what happened with the ‘release’  of Time for Miracles in Italy early Saturday morning.

Great. Now I will just have to worry about all release dates and promos for Adam from this day forward.

Wait a minute? Rolling Stone is comparing Mr. Lambert’s ‘heartfelt’  signing to the organic singer-songwriter Ryan Adams? Oh my ‘ ¦

O schnapps, lol!

Wait a minute? Rolling Stone is comparing Mr. Lambert’s ‘heartfelt’  signing to the organic singer-songwriter Ryan Adams? Oh my ‘ ¦

I know. There is so much fangirly nonsense this year. Jim. Slezak and the editors of Rolling Stone must have SQUEE headaches by now.

There is a comment on the RS Youtube link that the TFM MV has leaked. You guys who are so good at this stuff get on it!

I know. There is so much fangirly nonsense this year. Jim. Slezak and the editors of Rolling Stone must have SQUEE headaches by now.

You’d expect that from the first two, but Rolling Stone is a shadow of its former self.

I think it’s a reasonable observation. The opening verse of TfM is very much from the heartfelt heartbroken rock singer-sonwriter playbook.

Whitney looked high to me. It was an embarrassing performance of a nothing song. I was quite sad to see it.

Wait a minute? Rolling Stone is comparing Mr. Lambert’s ‘heartfelt’  singing to the organic singer-songwriter Ryan Adams? Oh my ‘ ¦

Yeah, big surprise. RS is on Whitney Houston-type bender of the worst kind where Adam is concerned. Why can’t they just wait until he actually releases some decent music and sells some CDs before they proclaim him the next Freddie Mercury/Robert Plant/Jeff Buckley/(insert your preferred “rock god” here)? It’s absolutely ridiculous.

RE: RollingStone Article
Time for Miracles getting ‘released’ on itunes in a few countries around the world will do an excellent job of extending the FREE PR for Adam.
I don’t think it was an accident or oversight on the Sony’s part.

Just like the fast track to #1 pre-orders on Amazon this week the tag line for stories is this; why only in a few countries?, you get numerous reviews and get audience reaction to the song for little effort on 19′s part (or Sony’s). Already there are a huge amounts of You Tube viewer created visuals, he gets mentioned on blogs, in major articles (RollingStone, above) and on TV.

This and the photos from Details mag (released & pulled) only add fuel to the ongoing Adam discussions outside the AI bubble.

For US/UK sales I believe they are waiting to release coinciding with the TII movie tie-in so TPTB can track US/UK sales accurately. (mentioned by others) I don’t believe bootleg versions will hurt sales at all.

All blog reviews aside I really like the positive take this RollingStone piece gives to the song “…On the track, Lambert proves how flexible his pipes truly are, effortlessly shifting from heartfelt, Ryan Adams-esque verses ‘” complete with what sounds like a pedal steel guitar ‘” to swelling arena-rock chorus…”

A real review in a real magazine and positive. Great for Adam.

A real review in a real magazine and positive. Great for Adam.

Good stuff!

Great. Now I will just have to worry about all release dates and promos for Adam from this day forward.

LOL! Yes, as though we didn’t already have enough to fret about

Then again, to put it in perspective, we are the obsessives watching this stuff like crazy every moment of every day – to the average person, this stuff means nothing, and they wouldn’t even notice it.

Yeah, big surprise. RS is on Whitney Houston-type bender of the worst kind where Adam is concerned. Why can’t they just wait until he actually releases some decent music and sells some CDs before they proclaim him the next Freddie Mercury/Robert Plant/Jeff Buckley/(insert your preferred ‘rock god’  here)? It’s absolutely ridiculous.

Err you must have missed the part where it says they were revieiwng TFM, an actual song which leaked over the weekend, that most of us have heard. You may not agree with their review, but they werent reviewing hot air

the rest is hyperbole supplied by you, not RS

Whitney is tragic!

I love RS lovefest with Adam.

The opening verse of TfM is very much from the heartfelt heartbroken rock singer-sonwriter playbook.

Except Adam didn’t write it (thankfully). And I don’t think his goal should be “playing” a singer-songwriter any more than it should be “playing” a rock star. First put out some good, original, music and then he can earn the title “rock star.”

Seriously, next year I expect Adam to get the Nobel Peace Prize because his “Adam Storm” brought relief to the poor, lonely and starving around the globe. Look out, Bono.

DLee
October 19, 2009 at 11:03 am
Before I do it, is there a good reason to wait to buy Time for Miracles? Why not just purchase it though itunes in France or Greece?

Unless you have an address in those countries along with a credit card from a bank local to them, or an Itunes gift card purchased in France or Greece, Itunes won’t allow you to buy the song. Itunes is country specific, the EU stops where Itunes begins.

I love RS lovefest with Adam.

ITA

Seriously, next year I expect Adam to get the Nobel Peace Prize because his ‘Adam Storm’  brought relief to the poor, lonely and starving around the globe. Look out, Bono.

Damn that boy is good!

You’d expect that from the first two, but Rolling Stone is a shadow of its former self.

Ha, no kidding. It’s not that in general they are comparing Adam to Ryan Adams even though they don’t have much in common artistically, which would be kinda silly but not a big deal because they are both talented in their own way. What gets me is that as I read it, they are calling the verses of the song Ryan Adams-esque. Bzuh what? I adore Adam, well documented, and I hope he takes the world by storm, but come on now. Lyrically that song, much like Kris’s LLWD, isn’t all that far removed from A Moment Like Magic Rainbows Inside My Now. Meanwhile, Ryan Adams is one of the most compelling songwriters of his generation and his lyrics often read like beat poetry. Step away from the glittery crack pipe Rolling Stone.

Unless you have an address in those countries along with a credit card from a bank local to them, or an Itunes gift card purchased in France or Greece, Itunes won’t allow you to buy the song. Itunes is country specific, the EU stops where Itunes begins.

Thanks!

The Whitney story makes me incredibly sad. I so wanted to see her make a triumphant comeback. Looks like she still has a very long way to go.

I was thinking TFM might have been released early in some European countries because the 2012 might be opening overseas soon?

I went on imdb.com to look up the release dates. 2012 opens on November 13th in the US. That is the same day it opens in Italy. In France and the Netherlands, the movie opens on Nov. 11th.

So maybe that has something to do with it?

oh btw… heres one for the adam stans:

“RT @ruthanne353: so inspired by my friend jeff, just dropped into his session with lady gaga & adam lambert, sounds amazin! its the year of the jeff peoples! about 7 hours ago from web

Have at it… (Dont know if this was posted in previous threads.. it gets a little tedious looking back..)

Seriously, next year I expect Adam to get the Nobel Peace Prize because his ‘Adam Storm’  brought relief to the poor, lonely and starving around the globe. Look out, Bono

Fantastic projection! You’ve seen the future too? About time,Bono’s about to retire anyway

Saw the Laura Saltzman piece on the AMA’s on the extended weekend edition of Access Hollywood. They featured the interview segment regarding his future performance on the AMA’s including his statement about wanting to put on a “show”. Laura introduced him as one of her “favorite people” and the male host (don’t know his name) said after the clip, was very positive saying that Adam could definitely give a great performance.

RE: organic:

I had never heard the term “organic” applied to anything but produce until I started hanging out here. It seems to be a distinction that knowledgeable music people make at MJs. I don’t know. I’m just an old guy who doesn’t know much about pop music.

RE: the Rolling Stone

It is a good little capsule review. I don’t see the hyperbole, myself . What they write about his voice on the song seems kind of self-evidently true. Mr. Lambert does go from quiet, heartfelt (dare I say “organic”) in first verses to what I think we all would agree qualifies as “swelling arena rock chorus” after the bridge.

RE: release strategy

AnninSD makes a good point. They have created a wave of free viral internet publicity for the 2012 theme song. Ultimately, Sony Entertainment doesn’t really care about sales of the 2012 theme song. Those sales could be the largest of any single in the history of music and they would be dwarfed by the worldwide gross of the film 2012. Time for Miracles is one prong of a multi-element movie promotion campaign.

Here’s the exact quote about Ryan Adam’s and Adam’s voice.

On the track, Lambert proves how flexible his pipes truly are, effortlessly shifting from heartfelt, Ryan Adams-esque verses ‘” complete with what sounds like a pedal steel guitar ‘” to swelling arena-rock chorus

The quote is saying that Adam can move his voice from quiet Ryanesque verses to swelling rock chorus with ease. It’s really not comparing Adam to Ryan at all.

Seriously, next year I expect Adam to get the Nobel Peace Prize because his ‘Adam Storm’  brought relief to the poor, lonely and starving around the globe. Look out, Bono.

Bwwaahhh!! Okay, that was amusing.

The Adam hype does get to be a bit much sometimes.

Today is the day Kris said they will be making the final decision on what songs make the final cut for his album. Yay! I hope a track list leaks in the next couple days (with some description of what the songs are like would be nice, although even a list of the song titles would be something)

I haven’t listened to all of Bob Dylan’s Xmas cd, but what I have listened to sounds pretty nightmarish. Glad to hear his proceeds are going to a good cause, but I’d rather just contribute to the charity and skip having to buy the album.

Why can’t they just wait until he actually releases some decent music and sells some CDs before they proclaim him the next Freddie Mercury/Robert Plant/Jeff Buckley/(insert your preferred ‘rock god’  here)?

Err you must have missed the part where it says they were revieiwng TFM, an actual song which leaked over the weekend, that most of us have heard. You may not agree with their review, but they werent reviewing hot air

I’m not Bootstar, but I believe she said “wait until he actually releases some decent music and sells some CDs”. I’m guessing Bootsar didn’t consider TFM “decent music”? Sorry, not really trying to be a wiseass, but I kinda like arguing semantics.

CindyM- Is there a link for the extended interview?

Wait a minute? Rolling Stone is comparing Mr. Lambert’s ‘heartfelt’  singing to the organic singer-songwriter Ryan Adams? Oh my ‘ ¦

Oh no, first Wells says Adam is a gifted songwriter, and now he’s being compared to an organic singer-songwriter. How he is going to live up to all these labels?

I haven’t listened to all of Bob Dylan’s Xmas cd, but what I have listened to sounds pretty nightmarish. Glad to hear his proceeds are going to a good cause, but I’d rather just contribute to the charity and skip having to buy the album.

I can’t imagine Dylan’s voice singing christmas tunes.That NY Post article sure made me want to listen to it though. At one point they said he sounded like a “pervy uncle”. LMAO!

RT @ruthanne353: so inspired by my friend jeff, just dropped into his session with lady gaga & adam lambert, sounds amazin! its the year of the jeff peoples! about 7 hours ago from web

Have at it’ ¦ (Dont know if this was posted in previous threads.. it gets a little tedious looking back..)

I’m not believing until Adam tweets about it.

aa618892
October 19, 2009 at 11:51 am
CindyM- Is there a link for the extended interview?

It wasn’t an extended interview, it was actually a shortened version of her online interview with him. It was the television broadcast version that I saw this weekend. Access Hollywood does an extended show on the weekend (1 hour vs 1/2 hour) and that’s the episode I saw the clip on.

I haven’t listened to all of Bob Dylan’s Xmas cd, but what I have listened to sounds pretty nightmarish.

I concur – oh dear lord, Xmas is supposed to be fun

Just read the RS article and quickly scanned the associated comments. There are the usual ‘Adam is so wonderful, can’t do anything wrong’ yeasayers and the ‘Even if Adam produced the next hosanna chorus, everything he produces is a piece of crap’ naysayers. I did find it telling that the naysayers seemed to prefer to stay Anonymous (chickens). I think the song is good but there are a few notes of pure, unadulterated joy that will keep me listening to the song. I expect to hear even more vocals of that quality in his LP. Oh, and by the way, TFM is an original song, Adam just didn’t write it.

Slezak TFM review is up at EW.com:

http://music-mix.ew.com/2009/10/19/adam-lambert-time-for-miracles/

You know, I’m not an Adam Lambert fan – but I have nothing, not a thing, against him either. I know many people love him and his voice, while I do not find either attractive. And that’s excellent. Everybody likes different things.
What I cannot understand is this RollingStone lovefest.

Err you must have missed the part where it says they were revieiwng TFM, an actual song which leaked over the weekend, that most of us have heard. You may not agree with their review, but they werent reviewing hot air

Well, I guess that depends on your definition of “hot air,” but I didn’t miss that they were reviewing “Time For Miracles.” I just happen to think the song is awful.

I’m not Bootstar, but I believe she said ‘wait until he actually releases some decent music and sells some CDs’ . I’m guessing Bootsar didn’t consider TFM ‘decent music’ ? Sorry, not really trying to be a wiseass, but I kinda like arguing semantics.

Fair enough, just pointing out that they were reviewing an actual song, not just spewing hyperbole out of thin air because they felt like, regardless of whether BS considers it decent music or not!

David Archuleta flew into New York this morning. Apparently, he will be doing an MTV shoot with Jim Cantiello while he’s there…

DavidArchie: A beautiful day in New York! Going to spend the next week working here. Hope the weather keeps up like this.
about 1 hour ago from txt

jambajim: @DavidArchie Hope you’re excited for the MTV News shoot on Wednesday. We’re going to have a blast together! Yay!!!
22 minutes ago from web in reply to DavidArchie

I was thinking TFM might have been released early in some European countries because the 2012 might be opening overseas soon?

It is scheduled for a simultaneous world-wide release in almost every country on the planet.

As for Time for Miracles, it is featured in the This is It world-wide release starting on October 27th, in virtually every country on earth:

This Is It world wide release schedule

The Michael Jackson film is scheduled to run for two weeks which takes it right up to the world wide release of 2012:

World Wide release of 2012

This is followed 10 days later by Mr. Lambert’s live performance on the American Music Awards telecast, with his album released on iTunes an hour or so after the show ends on the East Coast.

Well, I guess that depends on your definition of ‘hot air,’  but I didn’t miss that they were reviewing ‘Time For Miracles.’  I just happen to think the song is awful.

Again, fair enough, your opinion! But you’re saying that RS should agree with you and wait for what you consider “decent music” before they review it………..sorry, its a single out, and they are well in their right to critique it, favourably or otherwise

I can’t imagine Dylan’s voice singing christmas tunes.That NY Post article sure made me want to listen to it though. At one point they said he sounded like a ‘pervy uncle’ . LMAO!

Is it wrong that the pervy uncle bit kinda made me want to buy the Dylan album? The pervy uncle carol is definitely underrepresented in my holiday music collection, is all I’m saying.

It appears Sony is starting the pull some of the youtube’s uploads. The one I’ve been listening to all weekend had over 40,000 views, and that is gone. There are still others, however. The one in the RS article has also been pulled.

The Adam hype does get to be a bit much sometimes.

Truthfully, I haven’t reached my saturation point yet.

Am I the only one who sees the marketing barometer going on with the release of TfM in several European Markets. This is absolutely intentional and is being used to assess the value and the impact of the 2012/Adam Lambert video that will be shown as an intro to the “This is It” film.

You release the song in markets that are not strong for American Idol…that way you get a demographic that, if they are currently buying the download for TfM, are not doing it because they are an over-invested AI/Adam Lambert fan. So the song is just a song…with little or no advanced publicity in these countries.

Now the video is shown with a Michael Jackson movie that will be sure to hit pretty big since these European countries have been pretty big MJ supporters in the past. So you have a weeks worth of buying w/o fanfare and the marketers can compare that number to the number of singles sold after the video is shown. A marketing “survey” goldmine.

If the song tanks after the video is shown it will preclude Adam from “pushing” the European market. If the sales are good (outside of the core group) then Adam will be marketed heavily and his debut album will be heavily promoted in Europe. So simple!!

Overall, Slezak likes the song, compares it strongly to Aerosmith’s “I Don’t Want to Miss a Thing” from Armageddon, and then ponders Adam’s future success given that he is such a unique presence in the current musical landscape.

Is it wrong that the pervy uncle bit kinda made me want to buy the album?

LOL! Maybe not buy it, but it is actually making me very curious as to what this concoction might sound like…

Oh no, first Wells says Adam is a gifted songwriter, and now he’s being compared to an organic singer-songwriter. How he is going to live up to all these labels?

Oh, no. I hope he doesn’t have to change his wardrobe now that he’s organic. Ryan Adams usually wears plaid shirts and blue jeans.

Allison’s marketing has begun. Z100 now has her in the rotating banner on their homepage, with a link to listen to the single. My local Clear Channel Top 40 station has the same thing, so it may be the same on all Clear Channel Top 40 stations (thanks to Silver25 at TWoP for pointing this out).

Tess
October 19, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Am I the only one who sees the marketing barometer going on with the release of TfM in several European Markets. This is absolutely intentional and is being used to assess the value and the impact of the 2012/Adam Lambert video that will be shown as an intro to the ‘This is It’  film.

Very interesting assessment. Makes a lot of sense to me.

Is it wrong that the pervy uncle bit kinda made me want to buy the album? The pervy uncle carol is definitely underrepresented in my holiday music collection, is all I’m saying.

HA! There’s a channel on one of my direct TV radio stations that plays twisted christmas music. I fully expect to hear Mr. Dylan’s tunes there, in all their glory. I must hear this. The curiousity is totally getting to me!

LOL! Maybe not buy it, but it is actually making me very curious as to what this concoction might sound like’ ¦

What she said!

Allison’s marketing has begun. Z100 now has her in the rotating banner on their homepage, with a link to listen to the single.

Yes, just saw that this morning. Very prominent rolling banner display on Z100′s page. Is she doing anything else with Z100, like Kris did? Interview etc?

I’ve listened to the Dylan Christmas album. I think it’s swell. Reminds me of a Currier and Ives winter scene. Has a very 40′s feel. Dylan is a bandleader now. Think Lawrence Welk.

What passes for singing keeps it from being saccharine sappy.

You’d expect that from the first two, but Rolling Stone is a shadow of its former self.

Nah, Rollingstone has been overhyping artists for years. Bruce Springsteen is a perfect example. I used to say (back in the 70′s and 80′s) that if Springsteen put out a record of burps and farts, RS would give it 5 stars.

Nah, Rollingstone has been overhyping artists for years. Bruce Springsteen is a perfect example. I used to say (back in the 70′s and 80′s) that if Springsteen put out a record of burps and farts, RS would give it 5 stars.

MJ Springsteen can do no wrong – he is the original Rock Gawd

Do we know how Kris’ taping of his mv went? Any leaks as to what will end up on his album?

Tess:

Sony is way past the testing phase with Time For Miracles. It was not initially planned to be a significant part of the 2012 marketing. It was not initially in the 2012 trailers to be shown with This is It.

Whatever we are seeing this week is not mission planning, but launch sequence.

Slezak gives TFM a really strong review, even if he does call the song a little cheesy (which it is).

RE: organic:

I had never heard the term ‘organic’  applied to anything but produce until I started hanging out here.

Actors use it all the time too when they describe their “process”. It kinda bugs me when they do it cuz most of the time they don’t sound like they know what they’re talking about, but rather, they’re just spouting words trying to sound deep or serious.

I think with music, people like to throw around the word “organic” to convince people that their music is “authentic”, and not all those bad things people generally associate with commercial music. It’s like, listen, my music won’t be the overproduced, autotuned, cookie-cutter/Ryan Tedder pop, or radio-friendly assembly-line flyover rock, that you’ll find on Top 40, cuz I’m a “serious artist”. I’m not sure it’s always credible if it comes from the artist himself, but if critics use that tag in reviews, etc., I guess I kinda get it. But I just don’t think it’s ever appropriate to use “organic” to describe any Idol’s first 19R record. They’re put together in something like 5 months in the midst of a grueling national tour. The process sounds anything but organic.

Also, I don’t think any part of TFM sounds like Ryan Adams, but I’m just one person, so I’m sure some people hear it and think the RS mention is valid. It’s just an opinion

Whatever we are seeing this week is not mission planning, but launch sequence.

I still think it’s damn weird…

But you’re saying that RS should agree with you and wait for what you consider ‘decent music’  before they review it’ ¦’ ¦’ ¦..sorry, its a single out, and they are well in their right to critique it, favourably or otherwise

Where exactly did I say RS should agree with me? They’re entitled to their opinion and I’m entitled to think whoever wrote that review is smoking crack.

Re the Bob Dylan Xmas CD, I heard some excerpts from it on NPR earlier this week, and it is LOL funny. I’m not sure that’s exactly what he was going for (although one never knows), but, hey, if it works . . . I might buy it for the camp factor alone. And the cover art is great!

Paste review of Bob Dylan: Christmas in the Heart

‘RT @ruthanne353: so inspired by my friend jeff, just dropped into his session with lady gaga & adam lambert, sounds amazin! its the year of the jeff peoples! about 7 hours ago from web

Have at it’ ¦ (Dont know if this was posted in previous threads.. it gets a little tedious looking back..)

This part is interesting (from ontdai): Ruthanne is Ruth-Anne Cunningham, songwriter, who has previously worked with Jeff Bhasker, who coincidentally is currently working on Lady Gaga’s Fame Tour.

That’s great for Allison on the promotion. I wondered when that was going to start. Saw the pics of her from the other thread for the music video, that girl is a spitfire and I think she’ll do great. Can’t wait to hear her on the radio.

It seems kind of strange to me that they just did the Kris music video now, when his song has been out for a while and went for heavy adds last week. Allison’s filming her video at the same time and her heavy adds don’t start until 10/27. What’s the usual timeframe?

RE: release strategy

AnninSD makes a good point. They have created a wave of free viral internet publicity for the 2012 theme song.

Thanks hwc – its easy to have opinions/statements overlooked when these threads get uber-long. I do appreciate it.

I mostly enjoy reading yours and others thoughts as they usually mirror my own. It’s amazing how interesting everyone’s comments are.

Thanks again to mj for providing a place to discuss all AI items.

mj: I used to say (back in the 70′s and 80′s) that if Springsteen put out a record of burps and farts, RS would give it 5 stars.

Isn’t that what he’s been doing for 35 years?
Ducking and covering now!

saga
October 19, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Do we know how Kris’ taping of his mv went? Any leaks as to what will end up on his album?

Not yet – but with the finalization of the album tracks happening, like, literally today, I think we might hope for some more leaks in the next few days (fingers crossed!)

Wouldn’t be surprised if Cantiello or Slezak were allowed to start leaking some of the songs they already have too

It seems kind of strange to me that they just did the Kris music video now, when his song has been out for a while and went for heavy adds last week. Allison’s filming her video at the same time and her heavy adds don’t start until 10/27. What’s the usual timeframe?

No that kind of thing happens with idols sometimes. They can’t really do the video until they are done recording the album. No worries.

Bootstar, thanks for that link! I’m only at the second song, but I’m laughing so hard there are tears in my eyes. I am SO buying this… must.play.at.tree.trimming.party. OMG!

“Nah, Rollingstone has been overhyping artists for years. Bruce Springsteen is a perfect example. I used to say (back in the 70′s and 80′s) that if Springsteen put out a record of burps and farts, RS would give it 5 stars.”

MJ,
The glee, fascination and giddiness that every man I’ve ever known displays over burps and farts leads me to believe this would have been a hit. (Sorry to the fellas here. I love my brothers, father, friends, nephews, etc., but this fact never ceases to amaze me!)

‘RT @ruthanne353: so inspired by my friend jeff, just dropped into his session with lady gaga & adam lambert, sounds amazin! its the year of the jeff peoples! about 7 hours ago from web

They did a session together?

CindyM: It seems kind of strange to me that they just did the Kris music video now, when his song has been out for a while and went for heavy adds last week. Allison’s filming her video at the same time and her heavy adds don’t start until 10/27. What’s the usual timeframe?

I wonder if he didn’t shoot his video until just recently because he was still too busy working on the album.

If the song tanks after the video is shown it will preclude Adam from ‘pushing’  the European market. If the sales are good (outside of the core group) then Adam will be marketed heavily and his debut album will be heavily promoted in Europe. So simple!!

But I’m not expecting Adam’s album to be anything like TFM, so how can this strategy determine if Adam will be marketable in Europe or not?

David Archuleta will be working w/ Jim C. on MTV news.

Jim tweeted

jambajim @DavidArchie Hope you’re excited for the MTV News shoot on Wednesday. We’re going to have a blast together! Yay!!!

Hooray

Kris just landed another appearance (or another one just got announced, he’s likely had it lined up for awhile)

Jingle Ball2009 for KDND 107.9 FM in Sacramento. Tuesday, Dec. 1st

http://www.endonline.com/

Ha! I should get a ticket and fly up there after work…Sacramento’s not that far from L.A.!

Tess
October 19, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Am I the only one who sees the marketing barometer going on with the release of TfM in several European Markets. This is absolutely intentional and is being used to assess the value and the impact of the 2012/Adam Lambert video that will be shown as an intro to the ‘This is It’  film.

hwc
October 19, 2009 at 12:12 pm

Sony is way past the testing phase with Time For Miracles. It was not initially planned to be a significant part of the 2012 marketing. It was not initially in the 2012 trailers to be shown with This is It.

Whatever we are seeing this week is not mission planning, but launch sequence.

I think you both might be right in a way. I think the gradual launch in EU countries is meant to gauge the effect the song would have on 2012 buzz, not TFM buzz, the results of which would help TPTB fine tune UK, USA and probably Japanese movie promotion.

Either that , or it’s a complete FU.

Seriously, next year I expect Adam to get the Nobel Peace Prize because his ‘Adam Storm’  brought relief to the poor, lonely and starving around the globe. Look out, Bono

Lol

I’m beginning to think that either Rolling Stone have been embibing from the same pipe/bottle whatever as Whitney Houston at the weekend, or that I have…

Adam Lambert’s singing is great on TFM, but the song is trite, overblown nonsense, IMO: no better and no worse than a hundred movie soundtrack songs that preceeded it.

Slezak is somewhat more balanced. It gives Lambert a chance to show what he can do as a singer, with a ‘big’ song, but there’s nothing ‘heartfelt’ about it (even though the backstory clearly shows heartfelt intent on the songwriter’s behalf).

Actually, He’s beginning to remind me of Susan Boyle in a strange way: beautiful, empty voice. Huge hype.

We’ll see if there’s anything more on the album: hope so.

Sony is way past the testing phase with Time For Miracles. It was not initially planned to be a significant part of the 2012 marketing. It was not initially in the 2012 trailers to be shown with This is It.

Whatever we are seeing this week is not mission planning, but launch sequence

hwc, did it start with the snippet that leaked, and it got more views than all the other 2012 trailers put together? That, and more discussions, including from the critics, about that 29-second snippet than the 2012 trailers?

Whatever we are seeing this week is not mission planning, but launch sequence.

I think you are missing my point. Who is Adam Lambert and will people buy something he is selling? Right now the release of TfM on several european I-tunes isn’t even causing a flicker of interest from the locals. And sure some over-invested fans have downloaded it and have infested the internet…but that isn’t the point of the exercise.

The point is to measure sales of Adam the unknown (10-17 to 10-27) to sales after people have a chance to hear the song while seeing This Is It. Will Adam sell once people hear him? That is the question…nothing else.

No that kind of thing happens with idols sometimes. They can’t really do the video until they are done recording the album. No worries.

Thanks for the info! So does that mean, probably, that Allison is probably done with recording ahead of both Kris and Adam? Why the later release date, then? I would have thought that November 10th would be a better date than December 1st.

They’re entitled to their opinion

My point exactly!

Why is it taking Adam so long to finish his recording when Kris was finished last week, and Allison seems to be finished too?

I don’t understand RS’s love of Adam either. I think we can agree that internet population is growing and become more and more important in advertising and marketing, and that Adam has a very vocal internet fans base which may skew RS or other media’s perspective of how popular Adam is. But I think these media experts are knowledgeable enough to not be misled by online survey or comments. Do they have other materials to support their favor of Adam that we don’t know of?

Is it wrong that the pervy uncle bit kinda made me want to buy the Dylan album?

LOL. This album would have been perfect as the soundtrack for Bad Santa with Billy Bob Thornton.

This person is taking Kris Allen question for interview tomorrow!! – on Twitter

@whitejennifer
I’m interviewing Kris Allen (your American Idol!) tomorrow. What should I talk to him about?

Mornings on CBS Radio’s Sophie@103.7
http://www.radiosophie.com/

Ooh, I should tweet her to ask him about the music video — when it’s coming out and to talk more specifically about what it’s like. Ooh, and maybe he’ll know the album track list by then. The last radio interview he did where the guy used questions from tweeters was really good — much better than the ones where they recycle boring old questions about Idol and how Katy is doing and that stuff.

EDIT – 103.7 FM is a station in San Diego…

Do they have other materials to support their favor of Adam that we don’t know of?

BeckyMD-Maybe they’ve heard him sing or seen him perform?

Is it wrong that the pervy uncle bit kinda made me want to buy the Dylan album? The pervy uncle carol is definitely underrepresented in my holiday music collection, is all I’m saying.

LOL, sunchick, I am with you… I might have to buy it for sheer giggles. When I first heard he was doing a Christmas album I was like… WTF? But now it’s… WTF in a campy way. Don’t know if that’s what he was going for, but it sure is entertaining

BTW, my mom and sister are devoted Idol watchers but don’t follow anything on message boards or anything else and they have no clue that Adam (or anyone else) has anything coming up. The movie previews for 2012 here have no music on them at all. My sister does listen to 99.5 so if they start spinning any of them then she’ll know that they have music out… without me constantly bombarding her with Cookie factoids she’d probably have thought he fell off the planet since he is never, never played on 99.5 (top 40 channel). But anyway, little glimpse outside the bubble. They were also never aware that everyone hated Danny either, lol. They love him.

Interesting info in the Taylor Hicks article. I had no idea he had sold a million of his albums, last numbers I had were 800,000. Good for him! I think the ptb had absolutely no use for Taylor at all and other then using up the million dollar record pkg won, didnt promote him much. No video even. How many artists never sell a million records??? Take Pickler for example. Her label is under the Clive Davis umbrella and shes recording her 3rd album now, and last numbers I had, her first album sold 800,000 and the one shes promoting now a little over 320,000. I love both these guys and feel they are successful but I still get burned at the trash talking Simon Fuller and Cowell did re. Taylor after his win. I feel Kris is getting less then the winner usually gets also as far as promo and support. I noticed Simon Fuller’s press release after the finale stated “THIS year we are not holding anyone back”. Guess that says something about the handling theyve done for previous runnerups. I always felt it was a mistake for second place to sign with the same label, except Adam. He is who they wanted.

I knew Fantasia was dropped by 19 management but when did the label drop her??

Thanks for the info! So does that mean, probably, that Allison is probably done with recording ahead of both Kris and Adam? Why the later release date, then? I would have thought that November 10th would be a better date than December 1st.

I think Allison is done. I agree the earlier release date would have been better, but there are a lot of reasons why they might have went with a later one. 1. They may not have known when she would finish 2. they wanted more time to build to her release since she had the smallest fanbase 3. didn’t want her to get lost in the Christmas glut of big releases. That’s off the top of my head. I don’t think they are worried about huge album sales with Allie anyway.

Best Week Ever talks Details:

Adam Lambert Straights It Up in November ‘Details’

Thank you to Shantilux for tweeting the link

I had no idea he had sold a million of his albums, last numbers I had were 800,000.

Did he actually finally get to a million? I know they’d shipped a million which gets you certified platinum I do believe but I didn’t know he finally sold that many. I bought his last one and really like it, actually. I have a soft spot for Taylor. Except MAN, they need to put a new pic of him on my Music Choice soft rock channel here (my sleepy time music – and it is full of Idol music, lol)… it’s this horrible double chin tubby pic of him, dreadful!

On the track, Lambert proves how flexible his pipes truly are, effortlessly shifting from heartfelt, Ryan Adams-esque verses ‘” complete with what sounds like a pedal steel guitar ‘” to swelling arena-rock chorus

And, honestly, “effortless shifting” is kind of the key element of Adam’s voice and vocal style. That’s kind of hard to deny, seems to me. A lot of folks may not care much for the different sounds that he’s shifting among — like the rock scream and the too-girlie lyric voice and the falsetto, etc — but I don’t think many would say that he doesn’t shift effortlessly among them, nevertheless. So, really, the review isn’t saying very much that we don’t already know. Saying it with a positive spin, certainly, but I don’t see a whole lot of huge claims being made. The song *does* have a kind of arena-rock chorus, after all.

Ryan’s interview with Chris Daughtry:

http://www.kiisfm.com/cc-common/podcast.html

Today is the first day of their arena tour. Ryan also heard and loved the track Daughtry did with Timbaland.

BestAI
October 19, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Why is it taking Adam so long to finish his recording when Kris was finished last week, and Allison seems to be finished too?

Is it really taking him so long? Kris had a deadline for recording to be finished of October 15th for a November 17th release. Adam is releasing a week later, wouldn’t it be logical that Adam’s deadline for recording would be October 22nd? It seems with all the promo coming out that Adam did some promotional events (photo shoots, etc) during the tour which might have decreased the time for recording mid-tour, while I haven’t seen evidence of that yet for Kris or Allison. In addition, Adam was recording Time for Miracles, which as of late, is not expected to be on his album and shooting the music video for it as well. As far as Allison, wasn’t she already working with Jive prior to the show ending? I would imagine that her A & R person and Jive were pretty on the ball during the three extra weeks they had before the end of the show.

Right now the release of TfM on several european I-tunes isn’t even causing a flicker of interest from the locals.

Well, it’s #8 on the top pop song list in iTunes Finland…
But as I have said before, the actual numbers are probably really low on these Finnish lists.

I always felt it was a mistake for second place to sign with the same label, except Adam. He is who they wanted.

TylerWV-IMO, Adam could have finished anywhere in the Top 10 and he would have been signed and recording an album now regardless. The fact that he stayed in the competition untill the end was just icing on the cake.

OK. I’m not a hater. Really. But am I the only one who read the Arizona Republic article and spit my coffee onto my keyboard at the second to last sentence?

“Taylor Hicks is still a household name,” Deane says.

In what alternate universe?

On this Dylan Christmas album:

It does what all Bob Dylan songs do. It creates an atmosphere that transports the listener to a different place for a three minute story. Thus, a Dylan concert takes you on a couple dozen little mini-excursions tino a couple dozen story-book places. I have no idea how he does it.

On this Christmas album, he uses both male and female glee-club style choirs to incredible effect. I’m not sure I’ve ever heard a glee-club sing with Dylan phrasing before.

But I’ll think these media experts are knowledgeable enough to not be misled by online survey or comments. Do they have other materials to support their favor of Adam that we don’t know of?

Black or White
Ring of Fire
Tracks of My Tears
Play that Funky Music
Mad World
Feeling Good
If I can’t Have You
Whole Lotta Love
One
Crazy
A Change is Going to Come
and
* American Idol Tour performances
* Upright Cabaret, Zodiac Show etc.

I think Adam’s been a moving train from very early on in the AI process… and for whatever it’s worth the media were some of the first on board.

I wonder if he didn’t shoot his video until just recently because he was still too busy working on the album.

Yes – that was my thought. He even had to jump right off to London to record more after doing the original promo for LLWD. First priority was probably getting all the songs recorded before the Oct 15 deadline. The MV had to wait till after that.

Actually, He’s beginning to remind me of Susan Boyle in a strange way: beautiful, empty voice. Huge hype.

Well, ymmv, of course, but I think his voice is absolutely loaded with emotion on that song, as with many others. The lyrics may not be the most ground breaking (though they’re at least on par if not better than most of what’s on the radio now – “3″, anyone ), and I would agree with Slezak that it is a little more old-fashioned, hardly the most innovative music (which it wasn’t trying to be), but it definitely gets the job done for what it’s set up to do.

Why does Allison filiming her video mean that she’s done recording her album? Maybe she just had a day off from recording and it was the only time they could fit the video into her schedule.

In what alternate universe?

Aw, he is in *some* households — at least they didn’t say in every household . Some of his songs on his CD actually get a lot of play on my iPod, I love Indiscriminate Act of Kindness anyway

I’m not sure that’s exactly what he was going for (although one never knows), but, hey, if it works . . . I might buy it for the camp factor alone. And the cover art is great!

Oh, the cover art!! Either Dylan is getting maudlin in his twilight years, or he’s secretly in on the joke. Either way, it’s awesome.

LOL.. Michelle Collins cracks me up. I love this part:

First, we’re blessed with the full version of his theme from the upcoming disaster flick 2012, titled ‘Time for Miracles.’  It sounds like a more enjoyable ‘I Don’t Wanna Miss a Thing’ , and we can only assume that many heterosexual couples will enjoy dancing to it on their wedding day. Because if there’s one thing wedding first dances enjoy, it’s slow dancing to theme songs from post-apocalyptic and/or disaster films (see, also, the Godzilla/Puff Daddy collabo ‘Come With Me.’ ) And ‘Time For Miracles’  is exactly the kind of over-the-top epic ballad that we hope all couples begin their journey to the grave with.

Why does Allison filiming her video mean that she’s done recording her album?

It doesn’t. I just thought I remembered reading it here last week. I could be wrong, easily.

It does what all Bob Dylan songs do. It creates an atmosphere that transports the listener to a different place for a three minute story. Thus, a Dylan concert takes you on a couple dozen little mini-excursions tino a couple dozen story-book places. I have no idea how he does it.

On this Christmas album, he uses both male and female glee-club style choirs to incredible effect. I’m not sure I’ve ever heard a glee-club sing with Dylan phrasing before.

Well okay if you say so. LOL. I like Dylan too. But this album has some real moments of pure hilarity IMO. On a couple of these songs he uses his scraggy voice to a cool effect, but on some of the others its grade A comedy. Really, did you listen to Little Drummer Boy? LMAO.

Hi, kids. Back from R/L. Will read thread and report. I love Michelle Collins. Thanks for link. I knew she’d be here sooner or later.

BTW, I just saw the American Idol Rewind episode on TV Guide network–the one where Taylor Hicks auditioned (he looks a lot better now)–and I am, to be honest, still shocked that he made it through the audition, never mind won the title. But I could care less at this point–I just want to see Kradison’s videos!

BeckyMD-Maybe they’ve heard him sing or seen him perform?

How about that? I just don’t get all of this “why do they like him so much stuff”. They just do.

On this Christmas album, he uses both male and female glee-club style choirs to incredible effect. I’m not sure I’ve ever heard a glee-club sing with Dylan phrasing before.

oh, hwc - stop it, you tease This Dylan Christmas album is sounding more and more enticing! Step aside, Adam, I have a new musical obsession of the moment!

Do they have other materials to support their favor of Adam that we don’t know of?

They know that he has a very remarkable voice and is a compelling performer with an image-consciousness and such that *might* be capable of making him some kind of hit in vaguely rock-ish pop.

Honestly, today, with the kind of “singers” that repeatedly climb the pop charts, maybe this is enough for the RS people, who are kind of anchored in another time in a way. Maybe they’re just very excited that maybe an actual *singer* could have a shot at being a pop-py/rock-ish personality for a change. So far as I can tell, it’s been a long time, especially on the guy side, in pop.

Honestly, *nothing* could get me to like the TFM song. It’s just way way way too cheesy for me to like it. But, once again, Adam’s very flexible, remarkable voice sings out on there. And when you listen to pop radio, you don’t hear very many good voices singing out anywhere.

Someone on the Media Base thread reminded us that Kris was really sick for the last couple of weeks on the tour. That may be the difference in why his video shoot is concurrant with Allison’s even though his song was released to radio weeks earlier than hers. Makes sense to me.

Hmm, the new one republic song is kinda nice… I like the cello.

Since I double posted I might add that from the description we’ve gotten from Aimee, I don’t think her song with Tedder is a ballad.

Maybe they’ve heard him sing or seen him perform?

What? There are videos available of Adam singing? The next thing you’re going to tell me is that he’s gay.

You’d expect that from the first two, but Rolling Stone is a shadow of its former self.

Nothing has changed with RS, John Lennon and David Cassidy both made the cover within six months of each other in the 70′s.

They hype who they choose and support who they like, yes, but ultimately they are in it to make money just like everyone else.

tierbee
October 19, 2009 at 12:38 pm

In what alternate universe?

Aw, he is in *some* households ‘” at least they didn’t say in every household . Some of his songs on his CD actually get a lot of play on my iPod, I love Indiscriminate Act of Kindness anyway

I’m glad you took my post in the spirit with which it was meant, tierbee. And I realize Taylor had/has a huge fanbase. I didn’t buy his album(s) but I did buy the CD single of his coronation song because I was happy for him and liked his vocals. His was the only season I watched before S8, and I had been pulling for Daughtry.

But “household name” seems really strong for someone who has not had a radio hit since the show ended. Good that he is still working and happy doing what he is doing, but that just seemed like a completely OTT statement for the journalist to put out there! Now that’s what I call hyperbole!

oh, hwc – stop it, you tease This Dylan Christmas album is sounding more and more enticing! Step aside, Adam, I have a new musical obsession of the moment!

I’m listening to it right now. Must Be Santa is a polka, complete with accordians. It’s incredible. Brings a smile to your face with every song. What more can you ask of a Chirstmas album?

Adam was sick the last bit of the tour as well. Probably why he isn’t finished either – judging by the amount of time he’s been putting in the studio, it’s not for lack of work ethic!

Do they have other materials to support their favor of Adam that we don’t know of?

How about that? I just don’t get all of this ‘why do they like him so much stuff’ . They just do.

Seriously, I didn’t need to do a market analysis to be blown away by Adam, I just was. The sheer talent of this man convinced me. Maybe the same thing happened at Rolling Stone. “It ain’t that deep”

Tierbee, I’m with you, I’m pretty sure Taylor’s sales topped at just over 800,000 sold. The million was a shipped number. This was discussed as his number as of the first of the year. If he’d sold 200k since January, it would have shown up somewhere and been noted. I’m not buying it.

About the timing: Adam said at the AMAs that he had one more week of studio. It means it ends this week, and also that the schedule is basically the same of Kris’ album, considering the debut one week later. thing to worry about.

Good that he is still working and happy doing what he is doing, but that just seemed like a completely OTT statement for the journalist to put out there! Now that’s what I call hyperbole!;)

Yeah, I think “household name” was a bit over an overstatement (or a lot of one). Most of the Idols don’t qualify as “household names,” except the ones that have really blown up. My household isn’t like most households since I am addicted to MJs blog and therefore have bought wayyyyyy more Idol CDs than I would have if I lived outside the bubble. Ha!

But I’ll think these media experts are knowledgeable enough to not be misled by online survey or comments. Do they have other materials to support their favor of Adam that we don’t know of?

Readers put their money where their mouth is- they bought the magazines. Besides being totally sold out Adam’s issue was the biggest selling issue of Rolling Stone in 2009. There are a handful yet to go, sure, but odds are he will win the year in sales for them.

He moves product.

Halfie:

Adam is gay? First I find out Nancy Reagan dropped out of school and now this….

Why is it taking Adam so long to finish his recording when Kris was finished last week, and Allison seems to be finished too?

Adam has also taken some time off as well. While on tour he said he would take four days off when the tour ended – something he seemed to have done when he said in a recent interview that he had treated hinself to four days in a spa resort recently. He also spent a long weekend in NOLA with Drake and his family.

They hype who they choose and support who they like, yes, but ultimately they are in it to make money just like everyone else.

Yep. Subscriptions are down and magazines are shutting down left and right. Maybe they’re doing it for the hits? It wouldn’t be unheard of.

hwc, I don’t believe it either. I’ve seen him kissing a girl. (And as JambaJim said, a beard).

Maybe they’re just very excited that maybe an actual *singer* could have a shot at being a pop-py/rock-ish personality for a change. So far as I can tell, it’s been a long time, especially on the guy side, in pop.

Very very true. I think RS’s obsession with Adam is perfectly justified. Throughout the AI season he really was a force unlike anything that had ever been on the show – and easily one of the most modern, talented, and exciting performers to either grace the AI stage or be in the music scene – especially among male vocalists.

Yes, I know, hyperbole much? But jmo

Why is it taking Adam so long to finish his recording when Kris was finished last week, and Allison seems to be finished too?

Some Idols are just more polished and professional, with a clear vision of where they want to go. Others take longer to get up to speed and decide what direction to take in the studio.

Someone on the Media Base thread reminded us that Kris was really sick for the last couple of weeks on the tour. That may be the difference in why his video shoot is concurrant with Allison’s even though his song was released to radio weeks earlier than hers. Makes sense to me.

I keep seeing this. Did I miss something? Kris was sick with a flu type bug that went through all the guys (except Danny). He missed one concert but was able to sing at the next concert two days later.
Kris wasn’t in the hospital or on bed rest for a week. I recall he went to the pharmacy to pick up his own meds. Why would a 2-5 day flu bug completely throw everything off?

Saw this on twitter (@unfoldyourlove). Don’t know how accurate it is…

## ASIA LOVES @KrisAllen4Real ! Live Like We’re Dying is now the #1 song in the Philippines’s & Singapore’s radio charts! YAAAAY KRIS!about 2 hours ago from web

I’m going to go and listen to snippets of Dylan’s Christmas album now too! Sounds intruiging…

ETA That’s insane. A very alternative universe Christmas.

Perez got hold of the detail cover…

http://perezhilton.com/2009-10-19-completely-gratuitous-253

Some Idols are just more polished and professional, with a clear vision of where they want to go. Others take longer to get up to speed and decide what direction to take in the studio.

I’m sure that’s true. Plus, it saves time if you don’t have to teach studio musicians the songs you wrote and rearranged yourself.

Seriously, next year I expect Adam to get the Nobel Peace Prize because his ‘Adam Storm’  brought relief to the poor, lonely and starving around the globe. Look out, Bono.

Like how he inspired so many to participate in the DonorsChoose project?

Dammit, halfie, I can’t afford a new keyboard!

Perez got hold of the detail cover’ ¦

http://perezhilton.com/2009-10-19-completely-gratuitous-253

Can someone summarize – it’s blocked for me?

Why is it taking Adam so long to finish his recording when Kris was finished last week, and Allison seems to be finished too?

Some Idols are just more polished and professional, with a clear vision of where they want to go. Others take longer to get up to speed and decide what direction to take in the studio.

I’m not sure whether this comment is tongue-in-cheek, but I agree with it and think Adam’s belated single may to some extend due to him deciding what direction to take.

I know that his single debut date is in line with RCA’s single-album strategy which tends to release the single a month ahead of the album. But the lack of single name concerned me. At the beginning of AI tour Adam’s description of his album emphasized more on the elec-pop side, while recently he emphasizes more on the rock element. In addition, he admitted that he had identity crisis after AI tour in the EW article (where three more potential song titles were revealed). Adam team may be still debating between popish or rockish first single.

Also coordinating TFM along with his own single may cause difficulty in choosing the single and the timing of release.

Can someone summarize ‘“ it’s blocked for me?

He said: “Glambert on the cover of the new Details. Hawt!!!”

He also wrote “Hi” in white marker on the cover itself.

It’s only the cover, squirrely and the word HAWT

BeckyMD
October 19, 2009 at 12:28 pm
I don’t understand RS’s love of Adam either. I think we can agree that internet population is growing and become more and more important in advertising and marketing, and that Adam has a very vocal internet fans base which may skew RS or other media’s perspective of how popular Adam is. But I think these media experts are knowledgeable enough to not be misled by online survey or comments. Do they have other materials to support their favor of Adam that we don’t know of?

I don’t think they make their judgement on surveys and fan comments, otherwise they would have jumped on Taylor’s bandwagon. Why does Adam have many fans from all walks of life? It’s not word of mouth, hearing and reading comments. Music critics have to listen for themselves. Otherwise, they might already proclaim Adam’s first single the best ever. (A few hints: American Idol show, a few youtube vids.)

halfie, that was just the other side of subtle.

Can someone summarize ‘“ it’s blocked for me?

Just a pic of the cover (one with Adam in the leather coat, think it was posted earlier before). Perez wrote “Hi” on it, and the caption under says:

Completely Gratuitous.

Hawt!!!!

LOL! I type too slowly, I guess

Can someone summarize ‘“ it’s blocked for me?

He said: ‘Glambert on the cover of the new Details. Hawt!!!’ 

He also wrote ‘Hi’  in white marker on the cover itself.

Oh good!

Thanks LaurelG and ljsmack

Do they have other materials to support their favor of Adam that we don’t know of?

We just recently became aware that Adam was on Oprah as the most popular reality show star. Everyone in the industry who work with him seems to love him — they must know something. Magazines seem to sell well, (like RS), when they feature Adam. There really is more than on-line polls, fortunately.

I think I read that the 2012 trailer tested better with Adam’s song vs. the initial trailer that didn’t have it. (Q3, was that something that you posted?)

And, there are the Amazon presales. As of today:
Adam = 84%
Kris = 11%
Allison = 5%

I haven’t been following other presales, but from what I’ve seen, Adam has been doing very well there, also. We don’t know what kind of numbers those presales will translate to, (50,000 albums? 1,000? 500?), but there is a significant gap between the top place and the 2nd place, so it would appear that the first place person will sell better than the other 2 combined. But, only the release of the albums will tell us if that’s true. For example, I’m waiting for the ITunes download for Allison, rather than preordering on Amazon, so those numbers don’t necessarily reflect actual interest. Of course, once I hear Alli’s album, maybe I’ll decide not to buy, unlike with the preorders, where the sale will happen as soon as the album is available to ship.

We don’t know that Adam won’t turn out to be a glittery flop, but it’s appearing that there are a number of indications that he’ll at least get to record a 2nd album.

girlygirl
October 19, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Saw this on twitter (@unfoldyourlove). Don’t know how accurate it is’ ¦

## ASIA LOVES @KrisAllen4Real ! Live Like We’re Dying is now the #1 song in the Philippines’s & Singapore’s radio charts! YAAAAY KRIS!about 2 hours ago from web

According to this chart for the Philippines, it’s not accurate:

http://chartcentral.blogspot.com/

Unfortunately, google was not my friend when it came to Singapore charts. The web sites referenced scorned me.

Actually, He’s beginning to remind me of Susan Boyle in a strange way: beautiful, empty voice. Huge hype.

We’ll see if there’s anything more on the album: hope so.

Huh? What does a beautiful, empty voice mean?

Anyway, I agree with Slezak’s assessment (I often do; he cracks me up, in any case). I don’t LOVE the song but I love Adam’s vocals. hwc provided us with background re: the songwriters’ tragedy (she died of cancer, I believe), but without knowing that I would say:

It’s the song for an end-of-the world soundtrack (not gonna hear Feeling Good, kids);
It’s not a brilliant song;
Adam sounds amazing on it (and that’s pretty much a universal opinion by the press, including Cantiello and Slezak, who are not fantards like Laura Saltman, Lyndsey Parker, and Michelle Collins).

If you don’t like Adam, you don’t like the song. If you do, you probably will. And since this song doesn’t sound like what Adam’s album will, according to Adam, then you take it for what it is, and then you wait for the album. Personally, I like Want with its insipid lyrics (love…is all we want…love…is what we need…love love love…rinse and repeat), so this is right on my playlist (so is Want and NoBo, but anyway…).

Rolling Stone lurrrves Adam, yes, but its lovefest with Springsteen and others has been pretty spot-on. And I would love to see a GaGa/Adam collaboration, but not a tour, b/c I think she would, because I want a very cool show but not at the expense of his vocals.

I’m not sure whether this comment is tongue-in-cheek, but I agree with it and think Adam’s belated single may to some extend due to him deciding what direction to take.

LOL! I do believe it was meant to be snarky, but I see your point here, especially given his mention of an identity crisis.

Nevertheless, I think Adam has a very strong sense of who he is and what he wants to be. One of the bigger dilemmas may be, given his diverse interests and talents singing SO MANY kinds of music, it makes it more difficult to make the decision of the best way to showcase that in an album that also attracts the most fans.

Plus, choosing the first single has got to be a pretty difficult task for any album – it really is hard to tell what will be the best to start with. In a best case scenario, that there are MANY strong contenders, I’m reminded of the Lady Gaga, Britney, and BEP albums – each of which featured multiple songs that ALL could have conceivably been the first single.

I’m not sure whether this comment is tongue-in-cheek, but I agree with it and think Adam’s belated single may to some extend due to him deciding what direction to take.

I don’t think it’s belated. He always said that it would come out by the end of October. It’s only Oct. 19. I do think that there is a chance of it being pushed back to the first week of Nov, though, to avoid conflict with TFM. But, clearly, his PR people know what they’re doing, and I’m sure that they’ve got this planned perfectly.

He had always intended to be in the studio for a solid 4 weeks after the tour, so for the single to come out sooner would have meant that he would have been unavailable for media events to promote the single, so I can see why they’ve waited.

I can’t wait to hear the single, but, sigh, understand that there are bigger issues than my impatience, LOL. Getting the timing right with everything else being released, Adam’s availability for the media, and getting the album finished up are bigger issues than me pacing in front of ITunes and Amazon, waiting for the single.

Rolling Stone lurrrves Adam, yes, but its lovefest with Springsteen and others has been pretty spot-on.

suebrody, Adam is in good company if RS loves Adam as much as they did Springsteen.

uh,,, halfie

In addition, he admitted that he had identity crisis after AI tour in the EW article (where three more potential song titles were revealed). Adam team may be still debating between popish or rockish first single.

I’m sure they are still trying to decide how to position Adam. Some Idols just have it naturally easier. For example, there was already a clear direction for Live Like We’re Dying before the Idol ever set foot in a recording studio. Other’s have to go through a trail and error process.

Is TFM not being released in the states b/c of the 2012 soundtrack (or the video release)? Sorry I missed this (again, R/L). God, I hope he decides what single to put out and he PUTS IT OUT NEXT WEEK.

Adam “Springsteen” Lambert. Has a nice ring to it.

ETA: I just reached 1004 followers on Twitter!!! Sarver, watch out. (j/k)

As far as the Gaga/Adam tweet and Jeff Bhasker, he’s also a producer/writer/singer/instumentalist.

From Wiki:
Jeff Bhasker is a producer, writer and vocalist as well as a multi-instrumentalist. Recently Jeff Bhasker was a music director for Kanye West, he contributed orchestral arrangements to West’s Glow in the Dark Tour. Jeff Bhasker will also be the musical director for the highly anticipated upcoming North American ‘Fame Kills’  tour featuring Lady Gaga and Kanye West beginning November, 2009.
His unique writing and production can be found on Jay Z “The Blueprint 3″, Kid Cudi’s debut CD Man on the Moon, Kanye’s “808s and Heartbreak” album, the single by American R&B singer Keri Hilson “Turnin’ Me On”, and the Grammy nominated “Swagga Like Us”, among others. Bhasker first came on the scene producing the title track for The Game’s “The Documentary” and songs for Goapele.

He received his first platinum plaque from producing on The Game’s The Documentary

That said, I’ll believe the tweet when I read confirmation from any of the three actual parties, Adam, Gaga or Bhasker.

Adam ‘Springsteen’  Lambert. Has a nice ring to it.

Can you imagine the music video should Adam ever cover “I’m on Fire”?

halfie, that was just the other side of subtle.

THAT was subtle? Alrighty then. LOL

Adam = BB = Boss ____

There’s no reason to think that Time for Miracles will not be released as a download single in the United States. We just know when that will happen.

http://www.peopleschoice.com/pca/

nominations are open actual voting first part of Nov. Under music write in his name under breakthrough artist and male artist.

Suebrody

It means, IMO only of course, that Lambert’s voice is beautiful and technically superb, but conveys no meaning or feeling.

It’s the reason I didn’t get on the gravy train when watching AI (that, the OTT screech at the end of any rock song and his over use of the higher register of his voice) whilst appreciating his stage presence and singing ability.

Susan Boyle is only appropriate in terms of the hype and the ‘purity’ argument. Probably a better comparison is with Clay Aiken…

Same hype, same fan response, same strong vocals.

Of course, Lambert’s been totally upfrint about his private life and he’s certainly more up-to-date and ‘cool’ than Aiken.

He’ll either be the new AI Aiken (or Daughtry) in terms of sales or the next Archuleta in terms of sales (again, similar fanbase, but more cool and more media hype) and neither of those is necessarily a bad thing.

Yeah.. Slezak always loves Adam’s incredible vocal

as Adam exits the bridge and tackles the chorus once more (with feeling), riffing magnificently over the melody as a tidal wave of strings swells up around him. And while the Adam-volcano parallel is an obvious one to make ‘” after all, there’s no use denying the American Idol season 8 runner-up possesses a voice that’s its own uncontainable force of nature … never seems forced or ridiculous

Love this one and yes I’m brave enough to sing along the beginning part only.. LOL.. (don’t want to tear up my vocal cord)

the melody is so immediate and so simple that (if you’re really, really brave or un-self-conscious) you can sing along after only one or two listens.

If you don’t like Adam, you don’t like the song. If you do, you probably will.

I like Adam a lot. I hate that song. And call me jaded, but when RollingStone has to attach Ryan Adams’s name (which, for whatever reason, translates “street cred”) to the song, I think they’re trying way too hard.

Adam is unquestionably way more talented than Susan Boyle, but I fail to see how singing crap like this is going to win him critical praise in the long run. There are lots of references to Aerosmith’s “Don’t Wanna Miss A Thing” when assessments are made about “Time For Miracles,” but Aerosmith was already a very successful, established, rock act when they did that song, routinely pronounced a flaming pile of poo to this day.

If any established rock god (Bono, Springsteen, Mick Jagger, Paul McCartney) recorded “Time For Miracles,” I’m guessing we’d be hearing that the song sucks because, well, it does. And dusting off Adam’s American Idol performances to prove to the naysayers that he really is The Next Big Thing isn’t going to fly in the real world. Not the one I inhabit anyway.

Can you imagine the music video should Adam ever cover ‘I’m on Fire’ ?

It’ll be subtle – just flickers

In a best case scenario, that there are MANY strong contenders, I’m reminded of the Lady Gaga, Britney, and BEP albums ‘“ each of which featured multiple songs that ALL could have conceivably been the first single.

I hope that’s the case (fingers crossed). But it could also be that the songs are equally weak…Why can’t they just pick one and promote the heck out of it, just like what Jiva is doing with LLWD (no offense to Kris or his fans, just I’m not very fond of that song)? I believe there are stronger songs in Kris’ album, but I see it works fine to have an ok song out there in radio spins and have the singer doing interviews and concerts to increase exposure and expand fan base. For a singer, songs are more material than magazine covers or TV show presence or merely suspension that fans can root for.

BestAI
October 19, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Why is it taking Adam so long to finish his recording when Kris was finished last week, and Allison seems to be finished too?

Just guessing here, but it would take longer to have to choose a single from a few good songs than to push out the only obvious single-worthy song.

The longer they take, the happier I’ll be with the finished product – that I’m certain of.

Probably a better comparison is with Clay Aiken’ ¦

I agree. I was saying somewhere the other night how much Mr. Lambert reminds me of Clay Aiken musically.

I agree. I was saying somewhere the other night how much Mr. Lambert reminds me of Clay Aiken musically.

There’s a reason peeps were promoting Clay to be added to the DDD forums’ list of 100 Best Technical Rock Vocalists.

suebrody, Adam is in good company if RS loves Adam as much as they did Springsteen.

And let’s not forget the Jonas Brothers! Heh.

http://www.peopleschoice.com/pca/

nominations are open actual voting first part of Nov. Under music write in his name under breakthrough artist and male artist.

I never watch this show.

I’m not sure whether this comment is tongue-in-cheek, but I agree with it and think Adam’s belated single may to some extend due to him deciding what direction to take.

I know that his single debut date is in line with RCA’s single-album strategy which tends to release the single a month ahead of the album. But the lack of single name concerned me. At the beginning of AI tour Adam’s description of his album emphasized more on the elec-pop side, while recently he emphasizes more on the rock element. In addition, he admitted that he had identity crisis after AI tour in the EW article (where three more potential song titles were revealed). Adam team may be still debating between popish or rockish first single.

I guess thats what happens when you able to sing just about anything.

I all seriousness, I think he always wanted an eclectic album. That maybe part of the problem. I don’t necessarily think that it is wrong, but may have been more difficult than they thought it would be. Plus I think with the 2012 and the marketing this entails, I think it would be difficult to keep all the moving parts in mind when making the selection. I guess if I had to pick, I’d prefer a late single release as long as it was good.

@whitejennifer
I’m interviewing Kris Allen (your American Idol!) tomorrow. What should I talk to him about?

Mornings on CBS Radio’s Sophie@103.7
http://www.radiosophie.com/

Ooh, I should tweet her to ask him about the music video ‘” when it’s coming out and to talk more specifically about what it’s like. Ooh, and maybe he’ll know the album track list by then. The last radio interview he did where the guy used questions from tweeters was really good ‘” much better than the ones where they recycle boring old questions about Idol and how Katy is doing and that stuff.

EDIT ‘“ 103.7 FM is a station in San Diego’ ¦

Ooh, thanks for that. That’s one of my local stations and they’ve given LLWD a couple of test spins. I’ll be sure to tune in tomorrow morning.

Man, that part of the world really like their small, wholesome, US singers. So who will win the battle, Archie or Kris? Drama to follow.

Actually, I don’t think either could top the love there for David Cook

If any established rock god (Bono, Springsteen, Mick Jagger, Paul McCartney) recorded ‘Time For Miracles,’  I’m guessing we’d be hearing that the song sucks because, well, it does. And dusting off Adam’s American Idol performances to prove to the naysayers that he really is The Next Big Thing isn’t going to fly in the real world. Not the one I inhabit anyway.

Amen. The song sucks. It does. His voice is stellar, but it can’t save a bad song. There’s a reason I’m not a Celine Dion fan. I’m so looking forward his glam stuff. That has potential. I hope, hope, hope it’s good.

In case anyone is curious about Kanye post-Taylor Swift, he’s at an ashram. LOL.

http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2009/10/kanye-west-retreats-to-india-for-ashram-rehab.html#

I agree. I was saying somewhere the other night how much Mr. Lambert reminds me of Clay Aiken musically.

I was thinking more along the lines of Justin Guarini, but to each his own.

I saw more Bo Bice comparison, to each of his own.

This beginning of this vid might clear “some” of the confusion about DC’s schedule and mentions the January surprise but again not what it is.

IDIFY-Perry, GA

He’s such a tease. Heh

Why can’t they just pick one and promote the heck out of it, just like what Jiva is doing with LLWD (no offense to Kris or his fans, just I’m not very fond of that song).

But it’s been said that what Jive did with rolling out Kris’s single is exactly what they tend to do, while RCA always takes longer, and is much more likely to release the first single a month before the album drops (which would put it at next week).

So I don’t think it’s possible to make the comparison of Kris vs. Adam’s roll out.

halfie
October 19, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Adam ‘Springsteen’  Lambert. Has a nice ring to it.

Can you imagine the music video should Adam ever cover ‘I’m on Fire’ ?

Flaming headdress and construction boots FTW!

Does anyone think we might get the single from the Adam’s album this week. If TFM is not releasing until next week, maybe….

Just guessing here, but it would take longer to have to choose a single from a few good songs than to push out the only obvious single-worthy song.

^^ This! Paranoia subsiding. Thank you.

I don’t like Clay Aiken.

Anyway, I was wrong, sorry, BootStar. You don’t have to like Adam and like TfM (tho I do).This is why I hope they release his single soon (next week). That way, you get two choices, assuming you like *that* one and it’s more glam-rocky (I am sure it will be).

fadetowhite, I think Adam’s voice is full of emotion, but that’s just me (and lots of other people). I would never compare him to SuBo (gah on SuBo). I would Mad World as an example of his ability to connect to a song. I would add Feeling Good (studio) and A Change Is Gonna Come, along with Come Home (Upright Cabaret) and I Just Love You (Five for Fighting cover, released independently).

In response to the question upthread somewhere wondering why Adam’s album isn’t done while Kris’ is, the explanation is pretty simple:

Kris’ album is set for release on November 17, therefore, it had to be completed by October 17. Adam’s album is set for release one week after Kris’, therefore, he has one extra week to work on his. These initial albums are very, very rushed. I’m sure both Adam and Kris would love at least another month to work on the things. But, that’s not the way it goes.

Both Kris and Adam are listed among the choices for Favorite Breakout Artist, while American Idol is listed under Favorite Competition Show

I know People’s Choice Awards are more a popularity contest than anything else, but what the heck. I’m voting for both Kris and Adam, anyway.

http://www.peopleschoice.com/pca/nominations/

And let’s not forget the Jonas Brothers! Heh.

Ugh. BUT they also love M.Ward and Green Day (I do, too). So they are eclectic that way.

Man, that part of the world really like their small, wholesome, US singers. So who will win the battle, Archie or Kris? Drama to follow.

Actually, I don’t think either could top the love there for David Cook

The Philippines loves Elliott, too. I think maybe good singing and musicality have a lot to do with it, really. That’s a thread that ties all these guys together and sets them apart from a lot of other pop singers, guys especially.

Oh no, first Wells says Adam is a gifted songwriter, and now he’s being compared to an organic singer-songwriter. How he is going to live up to all these labels?

Oh, no. I hope he doesn’t have to change his wardrobe now that he’s organic. Ryan Adams usually wears plaid shirts and blue jeans.

Nah, he can just throw on a twink tank (borrowed from Drake) and a leather jacket and he’s good to go.

Just guessing here, but it would take longer to have to choose a single from a few good songs than to push out the only obvious single-worthy song.

All kidding aside, I think there is some truth to this. I think RCA is taking a whole different approach with Adam than Jive is with Kris. Jive picked Kris’s single from four songs. (two from The Script) He obviously wasn’t given much time to work on making it his own. At this point, I’m glad RCA is not rushing something out there.

I was saying somewhere the other night how much Mr. Lambert reminds me of Clay Aiken musically

Seeing Adam and Clay’s name in the same sentence makes me want to vomit.

IMO, Adam’s single isn’t being rushed because RCA has the luxury of time. Adam wasn’t going to be forgotten quickly after the AI tour. He’s EVERYWHERE! TFM, AMA’s, Details, EW, Oprah, etc.

I also believe that Adam may have rethought the theme of his record while on tour. It sounds like he may be adding more of a ‘rock’ element, thus the six Cavallo tracks.

The AMA performance announcement may be another reason for taking their time. The single needs to be a song that will come across easily as a major stage performance.

I want the single as much as anyone, but I’m happy they are taking their time to make a wise decision.

Adam’s got this’ ¦I trust him.

Black Swan

Both Kris and Adam are listed among the choices for Favorite Breakout Artist, while American Idol is listed under Favorite Competition Show

Good for them! I’ll have to see who they are going up against. This is the awards show that supposedly the public votes for right?
Has an Idol ever won this category before?

Actually, He’s beginning to remind me of Susan Boyle in a strange way: beautiful, empty voice. Huge hype.

Huh? What does a beautiful, empty voice mean?

So funny you should say that about Adam and SuBo– Ann Powers actually wrote a review of Jhud’s album and David Cook’s Light On last Fall titled
Jennifer Hudson, David Cook and the problem of big, empty voices

For what it’s worth, I agree mostly with what she said about Light On and DC, except the part where DC’s voice is supposedly “empty”. I may not love the song or the lyrics, but DC’s voice on it sounds good and does convey emotion. Ditto Jhud. I may not love the songs on her album, but she does seem to infuse them with a lot of emotion.

In contrast Powers gave Adam’s TFM a favorable review, Snap judgment: Adam Lambert’s ‘Time for Miracles’ begins his triumphant ascent Interesting. TFM doesn’t really “move” me, but maybe I’ll “get it” more once I see the video in context of the end of the world sequences of 2012, etc.

Ryan Adams usually wears plaid shirts and blue jeans.

Ryan Adams is also kind of ugly. Hee. I love his music!

I was saying somewhere the other night how much Mr. Lambert reminds me of Clay Aiken musically

Hopefully, Adam’s freshman album sales will remind you of Clay’s as well.

Here’s the announcement from Billboard.com . Nice pictures! Good promotion!

http://www.billboard.com/#/news/adam-lambert-s-time-for-miracles-single-1004023491.story

Mandy seems to like him.

For an ugly guy, he sure has dated some hot women. Personally, I think a “duet” with Beth Orton would be swell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrbH95TkEWU

I don’t get it myself. Maybe the women like the songs he writes for them, like this one Ryan Adams recorded to/for Beth Orton (it’s a swell duet with Marianne Faithful):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0L7oqADevM

Ryan Adams is also kind of ugly. Hee. I love his music!

edited for meaness -I’ll say he is odd looking ;p

LA times review for TFM

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/americanidoltracker/2009/10/snap-judgment-adam-lamberts-time-for-miracles-begins-his-triumphant-ascent.html

fadetowhite

It means, IMO only of course, that Lambert’s voice is beautiful and technically superb, but conveys no meaning or feeling.

I beg to differ. Pick a song (live performance); Born to be Wild and Play that Funky Music made smile all the way through, Ring of Fire I was in awe, Mad World and A Change is Gonna Come I was in tears, Track of My Tears was pure joy, with Feeling Good I actually tingled…

Conveys no meaning or feeling? Adam in every assessment from Simon Cowel to Brian May is the essence of expression and making others feel something.

I don’t think Ryan Adams is ugly. I think he makes himself look ugly on purpose. Why? I don’t know.

Another photo from Archie’s Christmas CD photoshoot has surfaced. Jive must have a thing for their Idols sitting in empty theaters…

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_mTMx779hd-4/Stytcl8_HII/AAAAAAAAAEg/wl9jEJvt71w/s1600-h/archietheater.jpg

ljsmack
October 19, 2009 at 1:14 pm
halfie, that was just the other side of subtle.

uh,,,just a wee, wee bit!

I don’t think Ryan Adams is ugly. I think he makes himself look ugly on purpose. Why? I don’t know.

I thought that about Kurt Cobain, thought he was gorgeous but he made himself look like crap… but obviously he had issues too.

From the LA Times review, I like this part:

Lambert’s voice is multitracked so that it keeps careening into itself, resolving in a final squall that, I must say, is pretty Aretha-esque.

and this part:

Then Lambert takes us back to the lonely bedroom with a final, mournful reassurance that he’s not giving up on us. The conductor puts down his baton and we’re done.

Actually, I like all of it! It looks like TFM is getting some great reviews!

You think I exaggerate? Listen to “Time for Miracles,” the single that begins this fall’s triumphant ascent of “American Idol” finalist and hard rock liberator Adam Lambert with a swoosh and bang that does Freddie and Steven (and Ann and Jon and Axl) proud.

A stellar quote from Ann powers and the LA Times. She also gives background into TFM’s lyrics (thank you Ann for that).

It’s a great review, they just don’t come any better. She then ends with this:

For those of us biting our nails about what Lambert might accomplish with his debut album, this song, custom-made for the upcoming movie “2012,” is neither utterly reassuring or at all discouraging. It’s like a speed trial. Power ballad? Check. What comes next?

Telling everyone, that TFM is not representative of his album. The woman can surely write, and write very well.

Oh no she didn’t. Did she really say “Aretha-esque”? That is some review. Must be just more hyperbole from inside the Idol bubble.

Actually, He’s beginning to remind me of Susan Boyle in a strange way: beautiful, empty voice. Huge hype.

Personal tastes, so I won’t try and convince on the emptiness, but I don’t think that SuBo has a beautiful voice. She was okay with her first GBT song, but not stunning beyond the voice from how she looked, the rest of her live songs were weak.

I am not concerned with how long Adam’s album is taking, he said he would be finished up a week later than Kris, which makes sense as his album will be released a week later. However I am not pleased that the TfM song wasn’t released on the date of 10/18 that both Rob and Adam said, but was in part of Europe before. WTF? And it’s still not avail in the US and has no date to do so. Again, WTF? And sloppy. If Adam is going to be doing free publicity for the song in interviews, and people are reviewing it, than not having any kind of real date it seems on iTunes to purchase it, is dumb. Unless I sarvered the date it’s really f’reals available in the US iTunes?

Oh and the decriptions of the Dylan xmas album make me laugh and laugh and possibly intrigued enough to buy it. Totally for the lulz of course.

I think that Ann Powers is my musical soulmate

hwc
October 19, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Oh no she didn’t. Did she really say ‘Aretha-esque’ ?

That has to be more hyperbole from inside the Idol bubble.

She should have some R.E.S.P.E.C.T! LOL

It’s one thing to compare someone to Celine Deon, but Aretha Franklin? Oh my heck.

Has anyone heard of this paper? Is the Los Angeles Times widely read?

Ryan Adams is also kind of ugly. Hee. I love his music!

edited for meaness -I’ll say he is odd looking ;p

So he’s a funny looking dude? Ya know, funny looking.

Oh, but I am anxious about the single, that I want some info on and am not pleased it taking this long. hmmmm.

I don’t think that Allison is done with her album, by the way, I just think she’s doing her video now. Kris’s actually got pushed back a week, it seems, because he was Tweeting that they were going to do it the weekend before last, but it seems it happened last weekend instead.

This beginning of this vid might clear ‘some’  of the confusion about DC’s schedule and mentions the January surprise but again not what it is.

Ha, he’s a tease . I love John’s videos – they are always awesome, and clear… and since I like to look at Mr. Cook, clear videos work for me. No YouTubes of shows for two weeks, however? Waaah! How do I break up my late night proofreading?!

Has anyone heard of this paper? Is the Los Angeles Times widely read?

I know you’re being sarcastic, but for others who may be genuinely curious, Ann Powers is a pretty recognized name in the field. She also covered the past two seasons of AI on LA Times’ Idol Tracker pretty extensively along with Rushfield.

tierbee – I think I am already in David Cook and the Anthemic withdrawal. Will just have to go back and rewatch the last few shows via youtube I guess. David, Andy, Neal, Monty: please tweet us!

Has anyone heard of this paper? Is the Los Angeles Times widely read?

I’ve heard of it, but thought it closed down when Richard left.

David, Andy, Neal, Monty: please tweet us!

Ha, I know, I’ll just be glued to twitter. Need to get my internet minutes upgraded so I can check it more often. You know, because I need *another* addiction to go along with David Cook and Diet Coke from the fountain.

Has anyone heard of this paper? Is the Los Angeles Times widely read?

Very funny, hwc.

Conveys no meaning or feeling? Adam in every assessment from Simon Cowel to Brian May is the essence of expression and making others feel something

Lol – yeah, I know: I’m out of step…I like it there.

But I’d rather stick to my own opinions and reactions, than change my mind to be in line with the pack. And I’m not saying that anyone else is doing that. Other people clearly have felt emotion in Lambert’s singing all along: I just don’t. It always has and still does feel false to me.

I’m still open to being converted by the album.

x

I think I am already in David Cook and the Anthemic withdrawal. Will just have to go back and rewatch the last few shows via youtube I guess.

Something new (I think) for you to stave off that withdrawal a bit, wellhesback: Video of DC receiving Archie’s Christmas CD (starts at ~0:48)

Lol ‘“ yeah, I know: I’m out of step’ ¦I like it there.

But I’d rather stick to my own opinions and reactions, than change my mind to be in line with the pack. And I’m not saying that anyone else is doing that. Other people clearly have felt emotion in Lambert’s singing all along: I just don’t. It always has and still does feel false to me.

fadetowhite, FWIW, I feel largely the same. I’ve enjoyed some of Adam’s singing but it doesn’t tend to “move” me. But I know that’s subjective, and I believe I’ve mentioned it briefly in the past, so I usually don’t feel the need to reiterate my opinion. But I am speaking up now just to let you know that you are not necessarily alone in that opinion– I guess I speak for myself that for me, I just don’t feel the need to restate my Adam Lambert assessment until something new changes my take on him.

I’m gonna be brave and take it one step further to say that I also don’t find Adam very attractive (gasp!) But that’s just me, and my tastes are questionable because I’m the girl who found the dude with a beer gut and comb forward, and the dude with a gummy smile and a weird mole on his forehead to both be pretty attractive. Haha.

fadetowhite – I know we’re in the minority, but I agree with you. like, totally.

and you, too, smallie – esp. where you say “I’m gonna be brave and take it one step further to say that I also don’t find Adam very attractive (gasp!) But that’s just me, and my tastes are questionable because I’m the girl who found the dude with a beer gut and comb forward…attractive”

Other people clearly have felt emotion in Lambert’s singing all along: I just don’t. It always has and still does feel false to me.

The next thing you’re gonna tell us is you didn’t get choked up in the last scene of “The Champ”

Another photo from Archie’s Christmas CD photoshoot has surfaced. Jive must have a thing for their Idols sitting in empty theaters’ ¦

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_mTMx779hd-4/Stytcl8_HII/AAAAAAAAAEg/wl9jEJvt71w/s1600-h/archietheater.jpg

So, that’s who Kris was looking back at.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_mTMx779hd-4/Stytcl8_HII/AAAAAAAAAEg/wl9jEJvt71w/s1600-h/archietheater.jpg

So, that’s who Kris was looking back at.

LOL! mystery solved

The next thing you’re gonna tell us is you didn’t get choked up in the last scene of ‘The Champ

Lol: I don’t think I’ve seen it

But I cried buckets over Kramer vs Kramer, Bambi and The Lion King: in fact pretty much anything sad. I was crying over a character in Eastenders (UK soap opera) the other night for goodness sake!

Does that count?

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So, that’s who Kris was looking back at.

are their albums going to be placed next to each other on the shelf?

I’m out of step’ ¦I like it there.

Out of step is good, I’m there too. If I wanted to go somewhere that had everyone on the same page, I’d go to a fanboard, lol. I like it here because folks are different, even if the different ones sometimes go into hiding for a bit .

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So, that’s who Kris was looking back at.

Ha, that’s funny. Glad we got that mystery solved

other people clearly have felt emotion in Lambert’s singing all along: I just don’t. It always has and still does feel false to me.

I’m still open to being converted by the album.

This is part that confuses me. I would take a strong guess at this point that Adam’s not your cup of tea. Nothing wrong with that. But I think there is enough Adam out there singing a wide range of material from his theater days to Zodiac to AI that if he hasn’t hooked you yet I doubt he will. I hope I’m wrong and his album knocks your socks off but it’s not looking very likely. Kudos for hanging in there though.

But I cried buckets over Kramer vs Kramer, Bambi and The Lion King: in fact pretty much anything sad. I was crying over a character in Eastenders (UK soap opera) the other night for goodness sake!

Does that count?

LOL Yes they all count ……Well there goes my “wouldn’t know emotion if it bit them” defense.

Well, I said this on the ET thread, but I’ll say it here too. I found the LA Times review interesting, but FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, why do they always seem to use craptacular DSB pics????!

Adam’s TBD album is at 7 on Amazon today with a green arrow.

That ‘January surprise’ video has me even more confused about what this can be. Does he say ‘surprise(s)? And he doesnt actually say its just himself taping whatever it is, he just says ‘gonna tape something to be seen in January..but he does say while the band is getting a 2 week break he isn’t so I don’t know what to make of it. Is withdrawal supposed to start this early?! Oh noes Its been like 12 hours since the last tweet! sma11ie, tierbee hold me I’m skeered!

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So, that’s who Kris was looking back at.

LMAO! OMG – that was just all kinds of creepy and wrong!

Kradam is no more – long live Krarchuletta!

Well, I said this on the ET thread, but I’ll say it here too. I found the LA Times review interesting, but FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, why do they always seem to use craptacular DSB pics????!

They need to talk to Billboard or Yahoo – they both used fantastic pictures today.

dhunken –

I’m glad I passed the emotion test: phew! Lol

I suspect I just like grittier sounds and generally prefer singer-songwriters.

But then, I love Frank Sinatra and Judy Garland: both full of emotion and superb interpreters of songs and neither of them ‘gritty’.

And I love some pop songs, with a strong beat, too.

I love John’s videos ‘“ they are always awesome, and clear’ ¦ and since I like to look at Mr. Cook, clear videos work for me. No YouTubes of shows for two weeks, however? Waaah! How do I break up my late night proofreading?!

John just naturally wins at life although mj herself did an excellent job in Providence. It will seem strange to not have vids for 2 weeks but hopefully they will go by in a hurry.

btw, Dave really has a fascination with rubber chickens. Hee

other people clearly have felt emotion in Lambert’s singing all along: I just don’t. It always has and still does feel false to me.

I’m still open to being converted by the album.

(from glamatheart)
This is part that confuses me. I would take a strong guess at this point that Adam’s not your cup of tea. Nothing wrong with that. But I think there is enough Adam out there singing a wide range of material from his theater days to Zodiac to AI that if he hasn’t hooked you yet I doubt he will. I hope I’m wrong and his album knocks your socks off but it’s not looking very likely. Kudos for hanging in there though.

Glamatheart,
I think it’s a testament to Adam’s talent and magnetism that people who don’t care for him…. yet, are still so intrigued that they “ain’t giving up on” him!

Adam is currently No. 3 on Yahoo! Popular Searches:

Motorola Droid
Anita Dunn
Adam Lambert
Tamil Tigers
Mariqueen Maandig
Rio de Janeiro
Gordon Brown
McDonald’s Monopo’ ¦
Morehouse College
Elisabeth Hasselb’ ¦

But I cried buckets over Kramer vs Kramer, Bambi and The Lion King: in fact pretty much anything sad. I was crying over a character in Eastenders (UK soap opera) the other night for goodness sake!

Does that count?

Sure. Cheap false bogus manipulative cinematic sentimentality obviously really moves you! … So I’m thinking that, if you see 2012, you might be moved by Adam yet, lol. Well, by the movie, anyway. Adam maybe not so much!

When it comes to judging one good voice against others, it’s just a matter of the quirks of personal taste, I think. Same when it comes to judging one good novel against others — some we love, some fail to move us. A matter of our personal biologies and biographies, probably. There are plenty of people whose voices or writing I objectively admire as showing talent and skill but that I don’t want to read or hear much of because I don’t get excited. I doubt that much of that kind of response can be successfully analyzed, so it doesn’t need analysis.

Winks8 – I’m open to being converted by Kris Allen’s album too.

He didn’t do it on AI for me either, but I see enough talent in there to give him a go.

Adam is currently No. 3 on Yahoo! Popular Searches:

Motorola Droid
Anita Dunn
Adam Lambert
Tamil Tigers
Mariqueen Maandig
Rio de Janeiro
Gordon Brown
McDonald’s Monopo’ ¦
Morehouse College
Elisabeth Hasselb’ ¦

nice list….tamil tigers (terrorists in my country) closely following adam is wierdly funny

Lucy – I like big special effects, tune your brain out films, so I’m sure I’ll enjoy 2012.

Be moved by it – doubt it.

I’ll just have to leave before the credits Lol

ETA

When it comes to judging one good voice against others, it’s just a matter of the quirks of personal taste, I think. (Same when it comes to judging one good novel against others ‘” some we love, some fail to move us. A matter of our personal biologies and biographies, probably. There are plenty of people whose voices or writing I objectively admire as showing talent and skill but that I don’t want to read or hear much of because I don’t get excited. I doubt that much of that kind of response can be successfully analyzed, so it doesn’t need analysis.

ITA, totally.

Well, some of us, have indeed given up on Lambert.
Cause we’re too busy staring and listening to David Cook and his band. and crying at sad movies.

I’ll just have to leave before the credits Lol

LOL

btw, Dave really has a fascination with rubber chickens. Hee

Ha!!

He is such a BOY. A big, doofy boy. Love him.

Group hug for all of us skeered Cookie fans about to have 2 wks of withdrawal…

I think it’s a testament to Adam’s talent and magnetism that people who don’t care for him’ ¦. yet, are still so intrigued that they ‘ain’t giving up on’  him!

Ha, that… or maybe some folks just like some stuff he does, not everything. Liked some of his AI performances, not so much some of the others, don’t like Time for Miracles much but it isn’t because of him, just don’t really like it. So I’m curious to see if his album has anything for me, or veers off into stuff that I’m not as crazy about. I suspect there are lots of folks out there who like him, but not everything he does; either that, or I’m just an oddball. Which is entirely possible since my iPod songs and artists veer everywhere and make no sense (I mean, if I put it on shuffle I might go from Les Mis to Snoop Dogg to Josh Groban to the Stones to Reba to Al Green so…)

(Actually that shuffle isn’t quite right… there’s so much David Cook, it would be rare for me to play that many songs without *something* of his popping up… lol)

I suspect there are lots of folks out there who like him, but not everything he does; either that, or I’m just an oddball.

I’ve liked some of Adam’s stuff enough to leave me open to being converted if I like the album, but I definitely don’t like all his stuff.

Kradam is no more ‘“ long live Krarchuletta!

In the immortal words of someone else on this blog, Thank fuck!

I would think that Mr. Cook is taping his guest appearance on Carrie’s Christmas special.

I think it’s a testament to Adam’s talent and magnetism that people who don’t care for him’ ¦. yet, are still so intrigued that they ‘ain’t giving up on’  him!

And maybe it doesn’t have anything to do with Adam at all and someone is just willing to give someone a shot and try and find music they like. Now I will say that I find it highly doubtful that they will like anything from this record when they pretty much hate everything they do and find their entire way of singing to be empty and false. Odds are, that won’t work out terribly well. But hey, it could not be, who knows?

I know that when Archie’s xmas music was here I gave it a listen. I love xmas songs, despite my being an atheist who as such, not terribly into praising things I don’t believe in…yet I love xmas songs. Go figure. So despite my not digging Archie from the YouTubes I saw (I think his Imagine is a travesty) I listened to his versions of the songs that were posted here because I like xmas songs and wanted to see if Archie did a good job on them.

And despite my not liking Daughtry and not knowing all of his music because I will never willing listen to an album of his, if I heard something I liked by him, I’d buy it. Makes no nevermind to me who makes good music. I just want good music.

So yeah, it doesn’t have to be about Adam, in my opinion. I think it’s jus trying to keep an open mind or trying to find music you like.

Seeing Adam and Clay’s name in the same sentence makes me want to vomit.

Agreed…..(shuddering)

Adam is currently No. 3 on Yahoo! Popular Searches:

Motorola Droid
Anita Dunn
Adam Lambert

Very cool! Love it when he pops up more on the media! Those yahoo searches always seem so random to me, on any given day, but I kept hoping I’d see him show up!

LOL… Kris’s LLWD on As the World Turns, now Adam’s Mad World at the end of today’s General Hospital. We’ve got NBC and ABC covered, now Allison needs to be on Bold and the Beautiful or The Young and the Restless.

tierbee – please include me in that nice David Cook/Anthemic withdrawal – group hug.
Hope Cookie and the band have a good time taping Carrie’s special.

Whoever posted it – Thanks for the vid of DC and chicken. I might have missed it otherwise, and I needed a laugh.

Now I will say that I find it highly doubtful that they will like anything from this record when they pretty much hate everything they do and find their entire way of singing to be empty and false

I don’t think you’re talking about me, but I’ll go ahead and answer it a bit. I really dig Jordin Sparks’ voice, the tone, timbre, and think it’s well suited to the style of music she does. That said, I won’t go so far to say her singing is entirely empty and false, but I feel absolutely NOTHING when she sings. But I like a lot of music that’s just upbeat and fun, and which does not require the singer to convey deep emotion. So I’ve bought the Jordin songs that I’ve enjoyed. I won’t buy her ballads. That’s all. I’ve enjoyed Adam’s performances of songs that are more fun and upbeat and a little crazy, like Black and White and Slow Ride. Starlight and Mad World? Not so much (I prefer, and actually love the originals– Starlight by Muse, and for MW, the Gary Jules version).

btw, Dave really has a fascination with rubber chickens. Hee

He should think about doing a duet. Maybe on “Avalanche” since they added that echo effect.

Whoever posted it ‘“ Thanks for the vid of DC and chicken. I might have missed it otherwise, and I needed a laugh.

hehe your welcome. I keep going back to that part several times.

LOL’ ¦ Kris’s LLWD on As the World Turns, now Adam’s Mad World at the end of today’s General Hospital. We’ve got NBC and ABC covered, now Allison needs to be on Bold and the Beautiful or The Young and the Restless.

Someone posted that Mad World was on CSI or one those crime shows not to long ago.

I know you’re being sarcastic, but for others who may be genuinely curious, Ann Powers is a pretty recognized name in the field. She also covered the past two seasons of AI on LA Times’ Idol Tracker pretty extensively along with Rushfield.

Oh-h, she’s an Idol reporter.

Speaking of Carrie, I’m on my phone so I can’t link but I just saw a scan of a Singapore interview with her and she talks about DC a little, calls him a good friend of hers and one of her favorite winners <3 Oh Carrie I so love when you pimp him hehe. Between that and him with the 'I love that girl to death' line in his banter my little CookWood lovin' heart is all warm and fuzzy aww. Now that Carrie has worked with Raine Maida too can we pleeease have a collaboration in the future?? future?!

Does anybody know how many songs Kris has to choose from?

Sassycatz
October 19, 2009 at 4:08 pm
I know you’re being sarcastic, but for others who may be genuinely curious, Ann Powers is a pretty recognized name in the field. She also covered the past two seasons of AI on LA Times’ Idol Tracker pretty extensively along with Rushfield.

Oh-h, she’s an Idol reporter.

I’m confused…because she’s an idol reporter she’s not a credible reviewer?? Wouldn’t that make Rolling Stone reviewers more credible then, since they don’t regularly cover American Idol contestants? Or…is it the fact that the review is favorable or unfavorable to a particular Idol that constitutes whether someone is credible or not?

Oh-h, she’s an Idol reporter.

Ann Powers respect in the music industry is renowned and it goes WAAAYY beyond Idol. That’s a fun side gig for her, but is not her only focus by a LONG shot.

(Fadetowhite)
Winks8 ‘“ I’m open to being converted by Kris Allen’s album too.

He didn’t do it on AI for me either, but I see enough talent in there to give him a go.

Fadetowhite,
I agree… I see enough talent to give Kris a go too (musically that is . He wasn’t my favorite on the season but I think he can really sing a song and sometimes I hear some Kris Allen voice that really touches me.

I guess where we differ is although Kris isn’t totally my cuppa, I don’t think of his music as “false.” That’s just not how I would characterize anyone who has the mojo to stand up and sing.

I respect your opinion and characterization though. While “false” doesn’t work for me, it’s how you feel about Adam’s music (for now anyway ) and that just illustrates how wonderfully unique we all are.

Ann Powers (From Wiki) in case her cred is being questioned:

Ann Powers (born 4 February 1964) has been writing about popular music and society since the early 1980s. She is the author of Weird Like Us: My Bohemian America and coeditor of Rock She Wrote: Women Write About Rock, Pop, and Rap.

A Seattle, Washington native, she has written for many music publications, and her work has been widely anthologized.[citation needed] While still a teenager, she began writing about music in the now-defunct Seattle music tabloid The Rocket. After a brief stint at the New York Times in 1992-93, she was an editor for the Village Voice from 1993 until 1996, then returned to the Times as a pop critic from 1997 until 2001. From 2001 until May 2005, she was senior curator at the Experience Music Project, an interactive music museum in Seattle. After a brief tenure as Blender magazine’s senior critic, in March 2006 she accepted a position as chief pop-music critic at the Los Angeles Times, where she succeeds Robert Hilburn.

In 2005, Powers co-wrote the book Piece by Piece with musician Tori Amos. The book discusses the role of women in the modern music industry, and features information about composing, touring, performance, and the realities of the music business. Powers and Amos complemented the publication of the book with the event “An Evening with Tori Amos” in New York City on February 24, 2005, where they discussed themes explored in the book.

Sleep evidently appears to be a luxury if you are a working musician…

Kris has two radio interviews scheduled for tomorrow morning

Kiss 98.5 FM in Buffalo, NY – will be interviewing him on the morning show (which runs 6-10 a.m. Eastern time).

The station is announcing another artist for their Kissmas bash lineup, and the speculation is that that artist will be Kris

103.7 FM in San Diego, CA is also interviewing Kris during ITS morning drive show.

Also, have a nice Jim C. tweet about Kris supposedly finalizing the track list for his album today…

jambajim

# Kris Allen is deciding on his final CD tracklisting today. I hope that one song I drunk-messaged him about makes the cut. [embarrassed face]about 2 hours ago from web

CindyM

Ann Powers has been a music critic for the L.A. Times for years and I’ve never read or heard anything about her credibility being questioned. So why would people do that because of her review of TFM? (if they read her coverage of Idol, they would already know she loves Adam, but that doesn’t make her review uncredible (is that the right term?) )

Well, some of us, have indeed given up on Lambert.
Cause we’re too busy staring and listening to David Cook and his band. and crying at sad movies.

I can do all three. Multi-tasking.

dyg1

Kris has never said. Chances are, though, he has a similar number to what Adam said he had to choose from (which was somewhere between 24-30, if I remember correctly).

Powers can have all the “cred” in the world. People (me) can still disagree with her, respectfully.

Should I know what a Motorola Droid is or who Anita Dunn is? I feel very out of the loop in terms of googling trends now…

LOL’ ¦ Kris’s LLWD on As the World Turns, now Adam’s Mad World at the end of today’s General Hospital. We’ve got NBC and ABC covered, now Allison needs to be on Bold and the Beautiful or The Young and the Restless.

But can we get into a debate about the merits of As the World Turns VS. General Hospital. (As fate would have it the only soap I ever watched was GH. Haven’t watched for 20 years or so, but I bet I could keep up in a debate. C’mon someone going to tell me Luke & Laura, the Quartermanes, Scorpio — or at least their spawn — aren’t still around?)

And GH did have Rick Springfield once upon a time

Truthiness

I didn’t say that I hated everything that Adam has done: just that it left me cold and that there are elements to his performances, on AI in particular, that I didn’t like.

Splitting hairs probably, but why not?

And yep, to those posters who are saying it’s always worth being open to music.

It doesn’t always have to move you to be enjoyable. There’s the strong possibility that Lambert’s album will fall into the category of strong pop or pop/rock music with a good beat. Well sung and ballsy: there’s a good chance I might like that. But it would need to be really good.

wellhesback
October 19, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Powers can have all the ‘cred’  in the world. People (me) can still disagree with her, respectfully.

Oh I agree with you. I’ve disagreed with her about some of her reviews before. Music is subjective, as are reviewers. My response was due to the “Oh, she’s an Idol reporter” comment that was posted as if that defined her career.

Billboard’s was my favorite one.

I’ve said it before, but I’ll repeat it: I totally get that someone doesn’t like Adam’s music (I, for example, am not a big Danny fan). But I would NEVER accuse him of being someone without an emotional tie to his music. NEVER. So to assign that to Adam makes me shake my head in amazement.

Ann Powers respect in the music industry is renowned and it goes WAAAYY beyond Idol. That’s a fun side gig for her, but is not her only focus by a LONG shot.

But she has an Idol connection. Only then did her comments make sense to me.

Great review from the LA Times

But can we get into a debate about the merits of As the World Turns VS. General Hospital. (As fate would have it the only soap I ever watched was GH. Haven’t watched for 20 years or so, but I bet I could keep up in a debate. C’mon someone going to tell me Luke & Laura, the Quartermanes, Scorpio ‘” or at least their spawn ‘” aren’t still around?)

LMAO…Luke is still on, married to a Quartermane now. Laura is in an insane asylum, I believe. Robert Scorpio had cancer last year and his daughter Robin just had her first child along with a nasty case of post-partum depression. But pretty much, General Hospital’s Port Charles has been overrun by the mob.

This may have been mentioned before, but you can listed to Allison’s FIBOU on Z-100′s website now.

Lurker here. I have a question. I have watched AI for years but never entered the online fandom until this past June. I am a Cookie lover since Season 7 and a Lambert Lover this year. Are fans not allowed to be both in the online world? Do i have to choose one or the other? I love chocolate and ice cream and sure wouldn’t want to choose which one of those to give up.

Ok, update on the Kris radio interview with 103.7 FM. Someone from ontd_ai called the station and was told that they never air live interviews anymore (something to do with Janet Jackson — IDK). Anyway, while the interview will be taped tomorrow, it won’t air until Wednesday, sometime between 6:30-8:30 a.m.

Lurker here. I have a question. I have watched AI for years but never entered the online fandom until this past June. I am a Cookie lover since Season 7 and a Lambert Lover this year. Are fans not allowed to be both in the online world? Do i have to choose one or the other? I love chocolate and ice cream and sure wouldn’t want to choose which one of those to give up.

No you don’t but it certainly seems that way.

I love David C too, but I’m heals over head for Adam.

Ann Powers respect in the music industry is renowned and it goes WAAAYY beyond Idol. That’s a fun side gig for her, but is not her only focus by a LONG shot.

But she has an Idol connection. Only then did her comments make sense to me.

So, if she gives Kris or Cook a good review, it will be because she is an Idol stan. Are we saying Ann Powers is willing to risk her reputation as a credible music critic to pimp Idol contestants?

Do i have to choose one or the other?

No. You can be the fan of as many Idols as you like. Ignore the b!tches on the fan-boards that imply otherwise (or openly call you a traitor). They’re insane.

i am with you Squirrely.

Tinafea

Welcome! No — you don’t have to give either up. Some people might give you a hard time, but there are lots of posters who have more than one favorite Idol. Some (like me!) even have more than one favorite from the same season.

Chocolate – yum
Ice cream – yum

I’ll remember that Kirsten

Ann Powers respect in the music industry is renowned and it goes WAAAYY beyond Idol. That’s a fun side gig for her, but is not her only focus by a LONG shot.

I agree. That’s why my first statement on her was to say she’s well-known in the field, and my second was to say that she covers Idol extensively. The two statements are not conflicting, but together may provide context for her statements for some, like Sassycatz. Also, my first comment about Ann Powers was in part in response to hwc’s sarcastic comment (“Oh no she didn’t. Did she really say ‘Aretha-esque’ ? That is some review. Must be just more hyperbole from inside the Idol bubble.”) I wanted to provide context that she can also be considered “inside the Idol bubble.” Not to discredit her or anything, just context. I agree with her sometimes, not always, and find her in general to be a much better writer and less prone to hilariously hyperbolic statements than Richard Rushfield.

Group huggers: tweet from Andy about DC:

@andyskib “Could you imagine having to live inside a dryer?…it’d be hot!” – @thedavidcook

Guess the boys are having fun doing laundry, LOL.

fadetowhite: I’m very happy to hear that you are open to the possiblilty of liking Adam’s album. I’m sorry if my original post came across snarky. When you said It always has and still does feel false to me, I just figured if he has never performed to your liking, it probably won’t happen. But you are right, it’s good to be open. Even I haven’t liked everything Adam has done. Or Kris. Or Cook. And yet I love all three. For me, though, there has to be something they’ve done that hooks me and makes me want to give them a shot. Otherwise, I lose interest quickly.

But I would NEVER accuse him of being someone without an emotional tie to his music. NEVER. So to assign that to Adam makes me shake my head in amazement.

But yet there are several people on the board who have piped up with this view. I don’t know why it has to be an “accusation” though, as you put it. Sometimes the specific tone or timbre of someone’s voice just gets to us more than others in terms of being able to convey emotion, and sometimes, there is also something in the tone or timbre of someone’s voice that for whatever reason just grates thus getting in the way of our fully enjoying whatever emotions the singer is trying to convey or any inherent superior technical qualities it may have. Does that make sense? I think that’s why there are so many different voices out there that are popular right now. It’s just about what voices makes one person’s heart ping vs. another.

Here’s a big confession: I think Kelly Clarkson is a phenomenal technical singer and I love many of her songs. But I think the tone and timbre of her voice itself is very average. Nothing special about it that makes me go “must listen again” after I hear one of her songs. See?

Yeah Tinefea. You can like all of the idol’s you want. My favorite from this season was Kris but I really loved also Adam, Allison Danny and matt.

Here’s a big confession: I think Kelly Clarkson is a phenomenal technical singer and I love many of her songs. But I think the tone and timbre of her voice itself is very average. Nothing special about it that makes me go ‘must listen again’  after I hear one of her songs. See?

Nooooo! You’re breaking my heart! Have you heard her live? She makes me weep when she belts out songs like Because of You… lurrve her. I don’t feel nuthin when Leona or Jordin belt out stuff all pretty, but KC slays me emotionally. Haha. But there we go. Different strokes, you know?

CindyM
LMAO’ ¦Luke is still on, married to a Quartermane now. Laura is in an insane asylum, I believe. Robert Scorpio had cancer last year and his daughter Robin just had her first child along with a nasty case of post-partum depression. But pretty much, General Hospital’s Port Charles has been overrun by the mob.

See, I knew I could catch up on 20 years worth of GH in a nice succint paragraph. Thank you CindyM!

And to keep on topic (sort of) I can so see Adam’s Mad World as the theme music if the crazy mad man (he of the weather machine) decides to come back. He hasn’t come back has he? Never mind… I don’t want to know.

dannygokey Im with my stylist picking out clothes 4 the award show Im attending tonight & for my photo shoot later this week. Exciting stuff this week

Not sure what award show is tonight. Happy to hear about the photo shoot. Danny’s official website is suppose to be up soon.

Are we saying Ann Powers is willing to risk her reputation as a credible music critic to pimp Idol contestants?

I’ve virulently disagreed with her in the past, but I’m certainly not. And I don’t think the review is all-fired glowing anyway.

Lambert works his way through the undying flames…

The song itself is surprisingly unoperatic, though its back story is straight out of “La Boheme.”

Producer Rob Cavallo gives him a hand with some pumped up kick drum and more orchestral dervishism.

It’s like a speed trial. Power ballad? Check.

So, basically, she’s using some excessive verbiage to call it a paint-by-numbers power ballad that is redeemed by his vocals. I happen to disagree on that latter point, but it’s hardly on the edge of the bell curve of critical opinion (in fact, I’d argue it’s probably right at the peak/mean).

Now, Rushfield? Comparing a disaster movie power ballad to effing Chapman’s Homer? That’s excessive.

I can so see Adam’s Mad World as the theme music if the crazy mad man (he of the weather machine</blockquote

I haven't watched GH in over 20 years and I still remember the CASSADINES!

Just wondering if I can convince any of you New Yorkers to go to Feinstein’s Manhattan nightclub next month, and take some video of Melinda Doolittle’s gig to share with us Mindydoo fanatics? If I did not reside about 3,000 miles away, I’d definitely go myself….

Tinefea, ITA – it’s good to like lots of Idols, like it’s good to like lots of different music.

I loved David Cook, Fantasia and Elliot Yamin on the show, though Cook is the only one I have followed after the show and the only one whose music I have enjoyed outside the Idol arena. And I totally get that he’s not everyone’s cup of tea and am pretty critical even of him lol!

I really liked Allison this year.

But I also have liked some songs by Kelly Clarkson, Daughtry and I actually quite like one or two of Jordin’s songs.

Just saw the note about LLWD topping the charts in The Phillipines. So why so those folks get him, and america doesn’t? (I know, I’m exaggerating….)

I know EXACTLY what keel means about tone and timbre being such specific tastes. I love all the idols – root for them, want them to do well, celebrate their successes – but I don’t love all their voices. Elliot, Sligh, Jordin and Daughtry are too goaty in their vibratos – just don’t like it. Pickler’s voice is too thin. Adam’s is just too high – he sounds like a woman to me. The voices I love the most – and buy – are the deeper, throatier, raspier voices – Taylor, Cook, Bucky, Danny, Melinda, Bo, Carrie, Allison and Kris.

Laura is in an insane asylum, I believe

Nyah, she got better and Luke was an ass and so she went to Europe with Scotty, of all people, while he stayed married to Tracy Q. I used to watch the show, haven’t for years, but I have AI friends who still do, so that’s how I know. It’s how I know James Franco is inexplicably slumming it and is joining the show and maybe he was on today and introduced today? So if it is true, I wouldn’t mind seeing James Franco with some Adam Lambert music. Not a bad combo.

Just saw the note about LLWD topping the charts in The Phillipines. So why so those folks get him, and america doesn’t? (I know, I’m exaggerating’ ¦.)

I thought that was just a tweet, but the physical charts didn’t indicate that.

Not sure what award show is tonight. Happy to hear about the photo shoot. Danny’s official website is suppose to be up soon.

It must be he’s up for the coveted “how many pairs of glasses should one person have” award.

Ok, update on the Kris radio interview with 103.7 FM. Someone from ontd_ai called the station and was told that they never air live interviews anymore (something to do with Janet Jackson ‘” IDK). Anyway, while the interview will be taped tomorrow, it won’t air until Wednesday, sometime between 6:30-8:30 a.m.

Thanks for the update, girlygirl!

Grouphuggers, heading home from work so I’m reading on my phone and can’t link but I just read a scan of an interview Carrie gave to a Singapore newspaper and she talks about DC a little Calls him a good friend and one of her favorite winners. I so love when she pimps him hehe! Between that and his banter saying ‘I love that girl to death’ I’m all warm and fuzzy <3 Can they please make some music together?? Preferably a collab with Raine Maida?!

I love the Philippines. Wondefrul, wonderful beaches.
Here is their charts – check it out.

http://chartcentral.blogspot.com/

fadetowhite
I didn’t say that I hated everything that Adam has done: just that it left me cold and that there are elements to his performances, on AI in particular, that I didn’t like.

Splitting hairs probably, but why not?

Well not hated, but finding someone false and empty of real emotion, are not typically considered positive things. So in general I don’t think it would be a terrible stretch to understand that to be dislike at the very least, though hate may be stretching it. But actually this is goes beyond you, to people who in general fundamentally dislike Adam’s voice.

I still say the odds of someone liking a song by Adam who actually dislikes Adam’s voice on a fundamental level, again, not saying this is you personally, to be very low of happening. Could happen? sure! Odd of it happening? yeah, probably not. Which is fine! Not everyone is going to like the same things. Thank goodness or I’d really have to wrestle people to the ground to get my Details mag, and I’m really out of shape right now, so I really don’t want to have to test my prowess at this point.

But yeah, I agree with the idea that just because one hasn’t liked something in the past, doesn’t preclude the future being different.

Oh and I haven’t loved, or even liked, everything Adam has done in the past, won’t in the future. So even liking someone in the past or present, gives no guarantees for the future. At least not for me.

Here’s a big confession: I think Kelly Clarkson is a phenomenal technical singer and I love many of her songs. But I think the tone and timbre of her voice itself is very average. Nothing special about it that makes me go ‘must listen again’  after I hear one of her songs. See?

Hmmm….I totally agree with you about the tone and timbre of her voice. Still, I play her a lot. I guess I’m just a huge fan of technical skill.

Rushfield is so OTT crazy that for years I thought his stuff was parody. He seems sane when he speaks but his writing is ridiculous. You should read the stuff about his all time favorite Idol – Carly Smithson. Lots of Greek tragedy metaphors, etc.

He takes kareoke and mediocre music very seriously. Kind of the same for Ann Powers. I never read her turgid stuff but I do remember a lengthy piece on Jennifer Hudson and David Cook’s albums. I didn’t disagree with her but the excessive amount of analysis on stuff that is just generic product seemed kind of dumb.

It seems everyone who writes for LA newspaper takes 19′s music very seriously.Rushfield especially is just a joke. He never says anything negative about Idol. Ever.

But I would NEVER accuse him of being someone without an emotional tie to his music. NEVER. So to assign that to Adam makes me shake my head in amazement.

Sorry. I guess I thought that if you liked (or even didn’t) like Adam’s music, you would feel his connection to it, even if you didn’t. I don’t like Jordin Sparks’s music, but I feel that she is connected to what she sings. But it’s true; what works for one doesn’t for another. And I am not saying he is always singing that way: he was playing when he sang Play That Funky Music or Born To Be Wild, but not (I believe) when he sang Tracks of My Tears or One or Mad World or A Change is Gonna Come. But clearly YMMV.

My favorite comment of the day! Thanks Kristen!

Kirsten

Do i have to choose one or the other?

No. You can be the fan of as many Idols as you like. Ignore the b!tches on the fan-boards that imply otherwise (or openly call you a traitor). They’re insane.

If Adam puts out a song without using his highest register and it’s a good song, I’ll like it.

But Adam’s fans seem to love it when he hits the high notes. That seems be when they get all tingly. (Influence on sales that is):)

For some reason, music reviewers have no influence. I think music is just too personal. People hear it and either like it or not. What reviewers say doesn’t matter at all. I’m not saying that’s a good or bad thing. It’s just how it is.

saga
Perez got hold of the detail cover’ ¦

http://perezhilton.com/2009-10-19-completely-gratuitous-253

So pleased he didn’t even draw on it!! Hawt!!!!!

Someone mentioned thatTfM works really well with a video. I agree. Sorry if this has already been posted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2lmVaWNKtI

My 2 cents. I really like the song. I feel it. But I understand if you don’t.
I love Adam’s full register whenever and however he uses it. And oh I come from the rock wail generation so love it. Nice to hear a rock wail that isn’t pitchy or screamy actually. As far as the production, personally I would have preferred just a little more guitar riffing. But that’s just mho.

jambajim

# Kris Allen is deciding on his final CD tracklisting today. I hope that one song I drunk-messaged him about makes the cut. [embarrassed face]about 2 hours ago from web

Darn my Adam distraction. Anyhew, expected this, but still good to get confirmation of and I hope that Jim can get some scoop about that song. It’s one of the ones that Kris wrote or co-wrote, yes? So yeah, if Jim can get a track list soon…even better.

Tess: Am I the only one who sees the marketing barometer going on with the release of TfM in several European Markets. This is absolutely intentional and is being used to assess the value and the impact of the 2012/Adam Lambert video that will be shown as an intro to the ‘This is It’  film.

More likely it is part of a viral marketing plan to drive buzz media. All I know if a few countries for a few hours could be a mistake, 12 countries for 3 days, is a plan.

Putting a song out on iTunes in 12 European countries would be a very crude and extraordinarily inaccurate way to do consumer testing and research. It would only give you a measure of song popularity without any idea of the buyer’s demo/lifestyle characteristics, purchase motivation or what associations existed between TfM and 2012, etc. There are a lot of very specific, highly predictive consumer research techiniques used to rapidly, accurately and cost-effective test advertising — and since the TfM MV is part of the TII special 2012 trailer, you an be sure the research results were positive. No one is fooling around and playing guessing games with the two biggest Sony Pictures properties — combined revenue currently projected to be $1.4 BILLION.

Truthiness

jambajim:
# Kris Allen is deciding on his final CD tracklisting today. I hope that one song I drunk-messaged him about makes the cut. [embarrassed face]about 2 hours ago from web

Darn my Adam distraction. Anyhew, expected this, but still good to get confirmation of and I hope that Jim can get some scoop about that song. It’s one of the ones that Kris wrote or co-wrote, yes? So yeah, if Jim can get a track list soon’ ¦even better.

I hope that at least on of Kris’ songs makes the album — he sounded so excited about “Red Guitar” and “I Need to Know” in the intervew a few days ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-3rNFhJHPc&feature=player_embedded

After seeing this – those picture were not photo shopped that much – Adam looks HAWT!

Danny may be going to the ASCAP country music songwriter awards in Nashville this evening.

Re: Adam. Crap.
Re: Whitney Houston. Poppycock.

For some reason, music reviewers have no influence.

Reviewers and critics are fun to read but to allow them to sway you on determining what you will or won’t like is as bad as being a cult follower and doing only what the “leader” says. I don’t think I have EVER in all my years read a book, saw a movie, or listened to a song because a reviewer told me to. They may peak my interest and I may check something out….but the ultimate decision to make a purchase is mine and mine alone.

I always equate reviews to fashion magazines. Nothing is sillier than to see someone who has taken a fashion spread and copied it to a T because these are experts talking. No one is an expert, no one has all the answers, no one has their ear on the pulse of everyone else’s heartbeat.

ETA: And Q3, I guess I didn’t make myself clear. I don’t think the release of TfM has anything to do with TfM or 2012…I think it is more of a barometer to see if the uninitiated will buy what Adam is selling as a singer to see if his label wants to spend the money to promote him as an artist outside of the 2012 bubble.

Adam’s CD appears to have a title on Amazon “For your Entertainment”!!

http://www.amazon.com/Your-Entertainment-Adam-Lambert/dp/B002QEXN3O/ref=pd_bxgy_m_text_b

Squirrely

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-3rNFhJHPc&feature=player_embedded

After seeing this ‘“ those picture were not photo shopped that much ‘“ Adam looks HAWT!

OMG!

But I’d rather stick to my own opinions and reactions, than change my mind to be in line with the pack. And I’m not saying that anyone else is doing that. Other people clearly have felt emotion in Lambert’s singing all along: I just don’t. It always has and still does feel false to me.

I’m right there with ya!

Adam’s CD appears to have a title on Amazon ‘For your Entertainment’ !!

Is it wrong that my first reaction was “like I’m a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I’m here to fuckin’ amuse you.” Sorry, that really was what popped into my head right away.

Well so title is apropos. Kind of obvious, but hey, we are talking album titles here, not Shakespeare.

I hope that at least on of Kris’ songs makes the album ‘” he sounded so excited about ‘Red Guitar’  and ‘I Need to Know’  in the intervew a few days ago.

Well the “I Need To Know,” one was of his early favourites, not sure if it still is, because he’s recorded a lot of stuff since then. But one presumes so and if so, than yeah, I hope it gets on the album too.

And dream the impossible dream here, that Kris’s second single is one he wrote/co-wrote. I know, crazy talk. They screwed David Cook here by releasing the two songs he didn’t write as his two singles, but I’m daring to dream big for Kris and hope he doesn’t have to do that. Maybe, hopefully, please.

Allison’s album also has a name, as per Amazon. Her album is called “Just like You”.

Yeah! Adam and Allison’s album titles are NOT self titled!!! 19 is branching out just a little I guess!

Kris’s offical website is also doing some Q&A videos as well, and being as failbot-y as Adam’s offical site, had them available all at once, even though it was supposed to be one a day. I swear, one good web dev could straighten out all three of Kradison’s sites in like a day.

Anyhew, one:

One

Two:
Two

Three:

Three
Hahahaha! *queue lightning* Three Kris Allen videos.

Grouphuggers, heading home from work so I’m reading on my phone and can’t link but I just read a scan of an interview Carrie gave to a Singapore newspaper and she talks about DC a little Calls him a good friend and one of her favorite winners.

Awww, I just love their friendship . Collaboration would be nice… didn’t Raine/Chantal write a song for/with her for her album? So…

LOL at having to explain Ryan Adams. He’s HUGE anywhere where people listen to music outside top 40. Very eccentric and charismatic, too. I’m personally about 50/50 on the guy, but he’s someone “cool people” feel they need to like to have credibility. He’s the new Joe Jackson, basically.

Totally agree with you fadetowhite. I’m also on the “wait and see” train. He didn’t connect for me either. I want to like Adam’s music. I really do…I just wish he’d do more with his instrument, too. Not a lot of variety in his interpretations. (And LAY OFF Glamberts! You’re entitled to your opinion, let me be entitled to mine…you might even allow me to appreciate him more by being less annoying to those who disagree with you.)

I less than three you lots, Kirsten! Screw the bitches, indeed.

PJ, LOL at Kanye. Talk about someone who could benefit from less publicity. Totally agree about the song too. Adam aside, “Time for Miracles” is dreck. No one deserves to be saddled with that kind of Diane Warren-lite crap anymore. I hope it doesn’t get released as a single. That would be tough to come back from, and I believe he deserves more.

RE: Anne Powers and Richard Rushfeld: Even the most well respected journos can become fangirls and boys. Powers and Rushfeld have been up Adam’s butt from early on. Powers is also dealing with “local boy” syndrome. She has to be taken with a grain of salt. Talk to me when Pitchfork, Stereogum, NME, or even Spin give “Time for Miracles” a good review. Then Adam will have something. (Hint: It’s not gonna happen. Not because of Adam, but because the song is dreck.)

LOL at DC and the chicken. I wish I liked his album more. It’s fun, and I jam along to his songs on the radio. I even bought Light On. I’m just not feeling it as a whole. Ah, well.

Can’t wait to hear Kris’s song list…or anything else from Allison besides her mediocre single…or anything about some sort of record deal for Matt (didn’t like him much during the show, but post-show did him wonders for me).

ETA: And Q3, I guess I didn’t make myself clear. I don’t think the release of TfM has anything to do with TfM or 2012′ ¦I think it is more of a barometer to see if the uninitiated will buy what Adam is selling as a singer to see if his label wants to spend the money to promote him as an artist outside of the 2012 bubble.

A lot more money was put into 2012 then into Adam, so I think the movie, and its potential success or failure, is paramount here.

Adam’s CD appears to have a title on Amazon ‘For your Entertainment’ !!

That seems appropriate. Makes me think of the song, “Let Me Entertain You,” as sung in the movie, “Gypsy.”

Adam just tweeted: It’s official! My debut album, dropping November 23rd will be called “For Your Entertainment”

CindyM
LMAO’ ¦Luke is still on, married to a Quartermane now. Laura is in an insane asylum, I believe. Robert Scorpio had cancer last year and his daughter Robin just had her first child along with a nasty case of post-partum depression. But pretty much, General Hospital’s Port Charles has been overrun by the mob.

Haven’t seen a single episode for 30 years and I understand every word of this! Time moves slowly in Port Charles.

(And LAY OFF Glamberts! You’re entitled to your opinion, let me be entitled to mine’ ¦you might even allow me to appreciate him more by being less annoying to those who disagree with you.)

Did someone say you weren’t entitled to an opinion? Of course, you are, even if, in your opinion, Adam’s fans are “Glamberts”. Sorry you were annoyed.

(And LAY OFF Glamberts! You’re entitled to your opinion, let me be entitled to mine’ ¦you might even allow me to appreciate him more by being less annoying to those who disagree with you.)

umm..wut?

Yeah! Adam and Allison’s album titles are NOT self titled!!! 19 is branching out just a little I guess!

Yeah, but the titles are cheesy. Oh 19Evil, first you giveth, then you taketh away. Well way to keep that Evil part alive and kicking.

“For Your Entertainment”-I like it! Hope I’ll like the music as much as the title.

And LAY OFF Glamberts! You’re entitled to your opinion, let me be entitled to mine’ ¦you might even allow me to appreciate him more by being less annoying to those who disagree with you

Well I for one welcome our new Glambert Overlords.

I don’t think they are cheesy – I just don’t think they are very creative, but they’re not bad. I still prefer them over self titled.

Well I for one welcome our new Glambert Overlords.

I thought MJ was our “Overlord.” Or, should I say Over lady?

I don’t think the album titles are that bad, though “For you entertainment” really doesn’t roll of the tongue. I may be biased but I like “Just like you” for Allison.

I don’t think they are cheesy ‘“ I just don’t think they are very creative, but they’re not bad. I still prefer them over self titled

Well to be honest, yes, I just find them meh. Not horrible, not good. But honestly I don’t know if I would prefer self-titles to kind of meh other ones.

Not sure yet. Like I said, it’s a good on one hand, not so good on the other for me.

Haven’t made up my mind yet how I feel. Meh seems pretty much there for me.

More teasing from Jim Cantiello:

jambajim
# Innnnnneresting’ ¦just heard from 19. Stay tuned.15 minutes ago from web

# http://twitpic.com/m6v2n ‘“ Only a matter of time before my head gets photoshopped to this poster. Sorry, Idol fans. The tease will be over w8 minutes ago from TwitPic

# within 45 min’ ¦6 minutes ago from web

So’ ¦heard from 19 about what’ ¦or who? Adam? Kris? Allison?

(sigh) too many c***teases when it comes to Idol stuff

I don’t think the album title really matters all that much. lol Thats just me. I don’t see it helping or hurting sales. Allison’s first single will help or break her album and we will have to wait for Adam’s first single to come out to see what it sounds like. Kris’s album being self-titled kind of fits him to me, but then I don’t care either way.

For Your Entertainment? Wasn’t that a Barry Manilow/Liza/Gene Kelly release? Not getting the edge. Glam like Gypsy Rose Lee? Let me entertain you, let me make you smile…?

Assume the music will be spectacular. He could call it “Untitled” and I’m buying. And titles don’t matter. But not seeing the innovative, never heard it before, cleverness of this. Is this warning: I’m an entertainer, don’t make this deep?

IMHO, If you’re not going to self-title, then it ought to be beguiling. And in Adam’s case build some anticipation at how new and different this will be. Or at least be interesting. IMHO, Opportunity not really seized.

Adam’s album title goes well with his persona! Good choice, I agree

Allison’s “Just like you” … not bad, not too sure what to think about it. I’ll see with the album

Kris self-titled album… totally agree. He’s introducing himself to the public.. me likey. I guess we’ll get a nice and random title (he he) for his second album

For Your Entertainment is a chain store. AKA “FYE” http://www.fye.com/
They do sell albums. Guess now they’ll have a self-titled one.

Just not finding the title as mesmerizing, amazing, and one-of-a-kind as the singer.

For Your Entertainment? Wasn’t that a Barry Manilow/Liza/Gene Kelly release? Not getting the edge. Glam like Gypsy Rose Lee? Let me entertain you, let me make you smile’ ¦?

No offense y’all, but I don’t know how many people know Gypsy. I was on ontd_ai which skews much younger than here, again, no offense, and nope, didn’t really occur to them. Maybe to some of the musical nerds like myself, but uhhh, yeah even then that wasn’t my first thought. My first thoughts, after the Goodfellas quote, was of Circus by Britney Spears and Funhouse by Pink. For Your Entertainment fits right into that for me. Kinda derivative, but more that than anything else.

Sorry, hope I’m not offending people.

ETA: and yeah, even as a musical nerd (though not theatre one) Gypsy never even crossed my mind until it was brought up here by y’all.

For Your Entertainment is a chain store. AKA ‘FYE’  http://www.fye.com/
They do sell albums. Guess now they’ll have a self-titled one.

So that’s what “FYE” stands for. I just bought something from them, but I never knew.

The title suits Adam because I always saw him as an actor who can sing, rather than a singer. He likes pretending. Dressing up. Taking on roles. That’s why I always thought the American Idol entrance into the entertainment world was not accurate, and I was exceedingly happy that Kris won … or that Allison could have won. Because they are totally musical performers. Adam used AI to break into show biz but it’s not about the singing.

ETA: and yeah, even as a musical nerd (though not theatre one) Gypsy never even crossed my mind until it was brought up here by y’all.

Oh, I think it’s very apt. I always thought Adam was a bit of a burlesque performer.

For Your Entertainment first reminded me of, “That’s Entertainment” and then (Truthiness beat me to it.) Circus and Funhouse.

I guess it fits…

Just Like You seems like it will be a good seller for the young girls. I’m thinking and hoping Allison can bring some edginess to that crowd.

“For your Entertainment” does associate with show biz to me. Someone who puts on a show for fun. Circus and Funhouse have a more ominous quality somehow.

Sassycatz, I’ll second your thought there. This is how I see Adam too.

I’m open to the fact that he may make some real music on this album though, so I’ll wait and see. I like what I’ve seen of him as a person (not so much all of how he’s willing to promote himself) and do think he has an amazing techinal voice. Track of My Tears was the only song I truly loved form the season.

ETA: I posted before I saw the burlesque comment, lol, I personally might not go that far.

Oh, I think it’s very apt. I always thought Adam was a bit of a burlesque performer.

Oh okay den. So you thought of the theatre musical Gypsy and that’s cool. I’m just saying, as my post did, yeah never even occurred to me without you guys here. Which again, when on ontd_ai it didn’t really occur them either. The stores of FYE (For Your Entertainment)? yes. That occurred to them. Gypsy? not so much. Again, no offense or anything. It wasn’t even a good movie, so even this self-professed musical movie nerd wouldn’t ever think about it. And beyond that? yeah not really there on the radar for most people I know. Glee aside, I don’t really know a lot of people who like musicals. Which makes me sads inside.

Funhouse and Circus are on my radar, Gypsy, not so much. Obviously this is different for different people. Which totally makes sense. We all have different references in our lives.

For Your Entertainment? Wasn’t that a Barry Manilow/Liza/Gene Kelly release? Not getting the edge. Glam like Gypsy Rose Lee? Let me entertain you, let me make you smile’ ¦?

FifthHouseSun, that’s exactly what I thought. Gypsy Rose Lee’s Let me Entertain You. Burlesque performers were often a bit stylized and risque. Seems to fit Adam. I thought that when I saw him walk down the Idol stage in one of his performances.

Gotta say, I think Allison got the much better album title.

BTW, poor Jim Cantiello, I think he got scooped again.

Unless he has some news on Kris’s track listing…..please?

Gypsy? not so much. Again, no offense or anything. It wasn’t even a good movie, so even this self-professed musical movie nerd wouldn’t ever think about it.

I like the movie. But, I liked Natalie Wood and Rosalind Russell in a few other movies better.

I’m not bowled over by either title, though at least w/context (song title?) Allison’s could be okay. FYE is just…cheesy.

Hmm, not all that thrilled over either album title, though I like Allison’s better. FYE… meh. Oh well. I guess they are, at least, breaking ground and not having to release self-titled albums . Though my problem with Cookie’s was not that it was self-titled but that they put a weird stretched-out-head pic on the cover of him (and yes, I’m aware that he has a big noggin’, but it was even more stretched out on the cover). And he’s so purty, why’d they do that? LOL!

Circus and Funhouse have a more ominous quality somehow.

Especially if you don’t like clowns… Funhouses creep me out, always hated those things, though I think that P!nk’s album of that name is fantabulous. Not gonna go there with Britney. I’m too old.

Well I for one welcome our new Glambert Overlords.

I thought MJ was our ‘Overlord.’  Or, should I say Over lady?

Way to get in the way of a good internet meme with your logic. pfft.

I’m not bowled over by the title at first glance, but I don’t mind it. I’m not familiar with Gypsy and had never heard of the FYE store. When I first heard it, I had a flash of that Ford commercial with Adam and Allison in their fancy magician outfits twirling around and throwing down smoke. Oh, and I thought of that Robbie Williams song that I only vaguely remember.

That said, he could title it, “Give Me $9.99 For Whatever The Fuck I Feel Like Singing” and I’d probably buy it.

And sorry, big LOLs to the thought that Adam’s not foremost a singer. Sure, he’s interested in doing lots of other things that pique his creative interest, but from interviews and what we know of him, his entire identity has been invested in singing from an early age. Could he do more? I hope so, although I don’t want to be greedy, so I’ll happily settle for an album that hopefully doesn’t suck.

Well I for one welcome our new Glambert Overlords.

I thought MJ was our ‘Overlord.’  Or, should I say Over lady?

Should we be politically correct? That would be “Overperson”.

A little late hearing about Adam’s title for his album. I think “For Your Entertainment” is cheesy and am quite surprised they chose that title. I was expecting something less Broadway and more edgy. I think “Adam Lambert” sounds better that FYE. I really would have thought Allison’s would have been self-titled – not liking her title that much either.

Gypsy? not so much. Again, no offense or anything. It wasn’t even a good movie, so even this self-professed musical movie nerd wouldn’t ever think about it.

I like the movie. But, I liked Natalie Wood and Rosalind Russell in a few other movies better.

I love both actresses and thought the movie sucked. I think they tried to do some updated made for tv movie with Bette Midler. Didn’t care enough about the musical to check it out, so no idea if it also sucked. But I can say, not really a cultural ripple for either films. At least imho.

I think the theatre production, from what I’ve been reading on Wiki, made much more of an impression.

When I first heard it, I had a flash of that Ford commercial with Adam and Allison twirling around and throwing down smoke. Oh, and I thought of that Robbie Williams song that I only vaguely remember.

That Ford commerical was to Britney’s Circus and the title of the song is…Circus. Which yes, I agree, is what I first though of too. The Robbie Williams one also didn’t occur to me without some of the guys here.

Well I think Adam’s album title fits him. I like it. It’s simple and direct and to the point. While we tend to think of OTT, glittery alien stuff as the only thing that fits Adam, I think it kinda reflects his cool, humble side (you know kinda along the lines of I did my best, here it is, I hope you like it…I really just want to entertain you).

I don’t think I’ve ever heard Adam say that he wants to BE a singer. Yes he wants to sing but he wants to BE an entertainer by doing more than singing. While singers are also entertainers and I think Adam has made it pretty clear that singing is important to him, he wants to do visual stuff to enhance his vocals and I don’t think he’s thinking of burlesque when he says that.

OTOH, I don’t care for Allison’s title. I’m no where near her age and we aren’t anything alike except I love her voice and want to hear her rock it out ( well we are both female, lol). So YMMV.

I was expecting something less Broadway and more edgy.

Ya know, this actually strikes me as patented Adam. I’ve lost count of the number of times he’s taken things intended as criticism or limiting and embraced them. From “Rocky Horror? I love that musical!” to strutting down a neon pink staircase in a white suit after a season full of comments on his being “theatrical” to the end of his Idolatry interview basically thanking Slezak for taking the piss out of him throughout the season, because in his own words, sometimes he’s kind of ridiculous.

That said, while I’m not holding my breath, I am nursing a tiny bit of hope that the title will tie in with the CD cover concept or a song lyric or both in some way that gives his fans an “aha” moment. That would be fun.

Geez, now I’m sure Adam will be wearing the michelin man outfit and Gumby hair on the cover… because how much more Entertainment can he provide than that epic thread here at MJs?

Not thrilled with the title, but will close my eyes and buy it anyway.

Allison’s title is alright, but I’ve forgotten it already.

sleuths what song is that Adam is singing along too in the ET video?

I don’t think I’ve ever heard Adam say that he wants to BE a singer.

Yeah. I know. That’s why I had a problem with the whole you’re the greatest rock star that ever rocked thingy. There were and are rock singers on Idol. Rock singers, writing and playing rock music. Not actors pretending to be rock singers. And. maybe they won’t be STARS! But they *are* rock singers.

I really would have thought Allison’s would have been self-titled ‘“ not liking her title that much either.

I know this is kind of a dumb reason, but maybe they were concerned people wouldn’t know how to pronounce Alli’s last name. I’ve already heard dj’s have probs with it (though how hard can it be, if Jack in the Box can teach an entire nation how to pronounce “chipotle”).

Sassycatz
October 19, 2009 at 10:12 pm

I don’t think I’ve ever heard Adam say that he wants to BE a singer.

Yeah. I know. That’s why I had a problem with the whole you’re the greatest rock star that ever rocked thingy. There were and are rock singers on Idol. Rock singers. Not actors pretending to be rock singers. And. maybe they won’t be STARS! But they *are* rock singers.

Ok first time trying to do a quote thingy (fingers crossed). I do have to say that for me Adam sold the rock songs. 70′s rock is my era and I love the songs he did. I know a lot of people felt he was “acting” it but it works for me. My 14yo daughter says he tries to hard but somehow for me it just comes across as ….passionate, sincere, enthusiastic… I’m not sure how to describe it. Probably out of all his pre-idol, idol and now post-idol my least favorite is CTF.

TfM WSJ article

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2009/10/19/adam-lamberts-song-from-2012-leaks-online/

ETA: they are already using the album titles ;p

jambajim

#@EWMichaelSlezak We are so Tardy for the Party tonight. I’ll race you to the Kris Allen tracklist though. GO!5 minutes ago from web

Yay! tracklist and super, more fantarding by both Jim C and Slezak. That is always so. much. fun.

I don’t think I’ve ever heard Adam say that he wants to BE a singer.

Yeah. I know. That’s why I had a problem with the whole you’re the greatest rock star that ever rocked thingy. There were and are rock singers on Idol. Rock singers, writing and playing rock music. Not actors pretending to be rock singers. And. maybe they won’t be STARS! But they *are* rock singers.

Adam has and does refer to himself as an artist. And for him that means music and has since he was a kid just listening to from his DJ father, or from the age of 10 on, in being part of musical theatre. Yes, for him music incorporates visuals as well. That he wants the music, AND the visuals together to present an experience to the audience. That doesn’t mean he is any less “real,” a singer or less authentic than someone with just a guitar. Again, Bowie wasn’t less real of an artist or less fake a person for wanting to wear make-up, put on a show and have different personas. Bowie was playing dress-up as well, because that is who Bowie was as an artist. And it’s no less or more valid than Bruce Sprinsteen, or whomever, wearing plaid and jeans and playing the guitar. Both are as rock as the other, just different kind of rock.

I don’t consider Adam any less an authentic musician in whatever form, because he also likes to mix up the visuals and as authentic part of who he is. Since he was a little kid, he was playing dress up. Putting on an outfit, doesn’t make you any less of yourself as a musician or any less yourself. For some people putting on an outfit and dressing up, isa fundamental and real part of themselves. For someone like Adam, it is. Since before AI or anything, he was dressing in suits and capes and liking Halloween, that is authentically him. So when he plays dress up today, and also as a part of that does music, it is authentically him and doesn’t take away from his being a musican. And it’s just as real as Bruce doing what he does. For either to do otherwise, now THAT would be false and not true to who they respectively are.

This is hilarious, but for some reason there’s a Kelly Clarkson vs Taylor Swift trending battle on twitter, and Kelly is winning

re-run of “David Cook In Control” at Star 101.3 FM San Francisco this week 7-8 PM.

http://www.star1013fm.com/mediaplayer/?station=KIOI-FM&action=listenlive&channel_title=

Truthiness
October 19, 2009 at 10:23 pm

Adam refers to himself as an artist…..

Yes!! I agree completely with your post. IMHO, I think that’s why Adam says “I want to be an entertainer”. I fully agree that his music is equally from his heart and soul as any other singer who just stands there and sings it out. For him expressing his music is like adding whipped cream on top of the wonderful vocals. It’s just different styles of musical expression. One is not better just different.

jambajim

#@EWMichaelSlezak We are so Tardy for the Party tonight. I’ll race you to the Kris Allen tracklist though. GO!5 minutes ago from web

OMG, you’d almost think he read my post!!

I’m listening to the Bob Dylan Christmas album and it’s hilarious!!

Well said, Truthiness, but beware of kick-starting that pesky little internet meme again!

Michael tweeted something about Kris and the viola. I wonder if his playing the viola in one of his songs.

There were and are rock singers on Idol. Rock singers, writing and playing rock music. Not actors pretending to be rock singers. And. maybe they won’t be STARS! But they *are* rock singers.

I think that Adam, *pretending* to be a rock singer actually sings “rock” as well as if not better than the *real* rock singers that have crossed the Idol stage… LOL

ILoveKrisAllen39

I would doubt it. If you watch the YouTube from Kris’ appearance at Seton HS the other day, it’s clear Kris hasn’t really touched a viola in years

LOL, I am hoping we can avoid the “real rocker” vs. “fake rocker” argument again… plllleeeease?

If you watch the YouTube from Kris’ appearance at Seton HS the other day, it’s clear Kris hasn’t really touched a viola in years

His facial expressions said it all, I thought. He looked like he was struggling, lol. Band nerd me found that all quite adorable!!

Yeah someone one another board said he was looking at someone’s picture from there twitter. And he was just tweeting about that. Sorry.

Ouch, y’all are killing me today. Ryan Adams a) is hot (don’t judge, I’m hard pressed to explain it other than he’s my biggest musical crush) and b) has industry cred because he’s talented. Many people in the industry don’t actually LIKE the dude because he can be a total moody douche, so if he didn’t have the goods he would have been yesterday’s news before you could say Heartbreaker.

LOL at having to explain Ryan Adams. He’s HUGE anywhere where people listen to music outside top 40. Very eccentric and charismatic, too. I’m personally about 50/50 on the guy, but he’s someone ‘cool people’  feel they need to like to have credibility. He’s the new Joe Jackson, basically.

LOL, yeeeah no, not so much. I like his music because, well, I like his music. *shrugs*

Though my problem with Cookie’s was not that it was self-titled but that they put a weird stretched-out-head pic on the cover of him (and yes, I’m aware that he has a big noggin’, but it was even more stretched out on the cover).

I know right? It’s like Alien!Cook! His ears even look pointy. I’m pretty sure he’s been stubbornly growing out his bangs and wearing hats since the album dropped because he saw what the skeery airbrush people can do when his forehead is nekked. This actually works in my favor because I dig the whole stringy hair, beanies, plaid shirts, t shirts, and rumpled jeans thing Cook has been rockin since he dropped the Executive!Rocker!Dave look (see above reference to stringy haired, plaid shirt and rumpled jeans wearing Ryan Adams and unexplainable hotness.)

Re: Ann Powers and her alleged OTT Adam lurve….Eh. I’ve had a tiny girlcrush on her writing since she did this piece on Cook and proclaimed A Daily AntheM the best song on his album. For me for you, I don’t think she is in touch with her inner fangirl to the extent of a Slezak or Cantiello.

As for Adam’s album title…are y’all sure you haven’t been punked? I mean, an album title that evokes the image of Ethel Merman as Gypsy Rose Lee is so not in line with the futuristic photo shoot pics that leaked.

KrisAllen4Real Done with first day of band rehearsal. Sounds sick! Seriously you will throw up.

LOL, I am hoping we can avoid the ‘real rocker’  vs. ‘fake rocker’  argument again’ ¦ plllleeeease?

What? you didn’t enjoy it the first upteeenth times it happened? You talk crazy.

Meanwhile, I agree

If you watch the YouTube from Kris’ appearance at Seton HS the other day, it’s clear Kris hasn’t really touched a viola in years

His facial expressions said it all, I thought. He looked like he was struggling lol. Band nerd me found that all quite adorable!!

I’m not a band nerd, but yes, points for trying and cute.

I’m reduced to begging. I don’t wanna beat dead horses. I like horses. Just not dead ones (or beating them).

This actually works in my favor because I dig the whole stringy hair, beanies, plaid shirts, t shirts, and rumpled jeans thing Cook has been rockin since he dropped the Executive!Rocker!Dave look

Well, at least I’m not alone. I find his “normal boy” look charming, when combined with schmexy voice… (I will not mention his lips. I will not mention his lips. Oh well.)

BTW, I come from a family of large foreheads and widow’s peaks (if we’re lucky) or receding hairlines (my brothers). And dude, we all go way out of our way to cover up the large, all-too-easily-shiny brows. Even if it means something like my brother’s water buffalo-esque look that he had in high school. Boys don’t know how to cover up large foreheads nicely. They just want it covered. *EMBRACE* the forehead, Cookie. It’s ok.

TfM is on itunes

According to Planet Fierce — TfM is available in the US on iTunes!

As for Adam’s album title’ ¦are y’all sure you haven’t been punked? I mean, an album title that evokes the image of Ethel Merman as Gypsy Rose Lee is so not in line with the futuristic photo shoot pics that leaked.

Adam is punking us fo’ sure. Adam in puffy glitter suit on the cover and it’s all For Our Entertainment! That boy, he’s all about the lulz.

David Archuleta Short Hairstyles

Archuleta is basically a clean cut young man with a relatively conservative hairstyle. He prefers to wear his hair short, yet allows enough length that he can make changes in the way he styles it for different occasions.

One of the more endearing traits he exhibited on American Idol was the fact that he wore his hair slightly different for each performance. He managed to change his hair so that the style reflected the song he was performing in some way or the era from which the song was taken. He even managed to pay homage to Elvis Presley with the way he styled his hair for his performance of the great love ballad, “Love Me Tender”. One could say that Archuleta keeps his hair at a perfect length for taking on many different styles with ease.

CoolMensHair.com (several photos on display)

re-run of ‘David Cook In Control’  at Star 101.3 FM San Francisco this week 7-8 PM.

Maybe it is not re-run. Today’s playlist is not the same as the previous Monday’s playlist. He played his own “Come Back To Me” this evening.

IMO, Adam’s single isn’t being rushed because RCA has the luxury of time. Adam wasn’t going to be forgotten quickly after the AI tour. He’s EVERYWHERE! TFM, AMA’s, Details, EW, Oprah, etc.

I also believe that Adam may have rethought the theme of his record while on tour. It sounds like he may be adding more of a ‘rock’ element, thus the six Cavallo tracks.

The AMA performance announcement may be another reason for taking their time. The single needs to be a song that will come across easily as a major stage performance.

I want the single as much as anyone, but I’m happy they are taking their time to make a wise decision.

Adam’s got this’ ¦I trust him.

Black Swan

ITA ITA

Adam is punking us fo’ sure. Adam in puffy glitter suit on the cover and it’s all For Our Entertainment! That boy, he’s all about the lulz.

That picture continues to entertain me, I still giggle just thinking about it. So once again, truth in advertising.

I guess I need to brush up on my ’50s theatre musicals! I clearly have a blind spot that is very common for other people. Ya learn something new every day.

Seems Kris has enough fans in Singapore to bring his single in the first position in the hot 30 countdown since yesterday!! yeah!!!

http://www.radio913.com/songs

tfm on itunes us?
anyone watching the charts?

One could say that Archuleta keeps his hair at a perfect length for taking on many different styles with ease.

Why did that make me laugh? Is it the phrasing? I think Archie (little dude) is adorable, but for some reason… doesn’t his hair always look the same?! He’s too young for me to look at more closely without feeling guilty, so guess I can’t tell. Maybe I’m just tired… and extra giggly

KrisAllen4real

#Done with first day of band rehearsal. Sounds sick! Seriously you will throw up.28 minutes ago from Echofon

LOL – I don’t know if throwing up is the feeling you want to induce in your fans! I’m thinking he means siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick (TM Adam Lambert). And it’s cool that he has his band in place. Wonder who is in it other than his friend Cale

But what about the track list, Kris??? If the band is starting to rehearse, that must mean the album tracks have been chosen, Y/Y???

Done with first day of band rehearsal. Sounds sick! Seriously you will throw up.
31 minutes ago from Echofon

what!!lol

I hope it’s the good kind of sick. Is there a good kind of sick. Maybe it’s like when you go on a rollar coaster, you might get sick but it’s fun so you go back for more. I want to know if Red Guitar made the cut.

Seems Kris has enough fans in Singapore to bring his single in the first position in the hot 30 countdown since yesterday!! yeah!!!

Cool! and he was number one in the Philippines as well, yes?

And this hadn’t occurred to be me before, is this just radio or is it singles sales as well?

boredinschool
October 19, 2009 at 11:33 pm
tfm on itunes us?
anyone watching the charts?

If it is not #1 in 10 minutes, he is a total failure forever.

But what about the track list, Kris??? If the band is starting to rehearse, that must mean the album tracks have been chosen, Y/Y???

Sounds like Cantiello or Slezak may be itching to give some hints about that (if not the full list) in the next few days, based on their tweets

Seems that Danny was in great company this evening. From http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Ascap-1061932.html

…writers of country music’s most performed songs of the past year were honored by The American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers (ASCAP). [..]

Honorees and special guests in attendance included Kenny Chesney, Alan Jackson, Dierks Bentley, Trace Adkins, Lee Ann Womack, Martina McBride, Keith Anderson, JD Souther, Jackson Browne, Rodney Crowell, Darryl Worley, Jason Michael Carroll, Love and Theft, David Nail, Eric Church, Bucky Covington, Heidi Newfield, Jimmy Webb, Chuck Wicks, Danny Gokey and Billy Currington.

Cool! and he was number one in the Philippines as well, yes?

And this hadn’t occurred to be me before, is this just radio or is it singles sales as well?

i checked one radio in the Philippines and he was #2 on the hot 30
http://www.magic899.fm/WhatsHot.aspx

as for the singles sales.. idk

Bored in school

If you want to track TFM on the iTunes chart, here’s the link. In order to change the time stamp and get up to the minute charts, you need to keep changing the numbers after the sf= in the web address

http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wpa/MRSS/topsongs/sf=9487200/limit=0000/rss.xml

Right now, TFM is #727 on the iTunes chart…

whoops — it’s already jumped nearly 300 spots in 15 minutes — now at #461

tierbee – even when you don’t mention the lips, I’m thinking about them.

I was about to go all goofy about RS comparing TfM to Ryan Adams, but then I read through the comments and realized that I was hours too late, so I’ll just talk about how awesome I think that he is….

Ryan Adams is definitely one of my favorite artists. He puts out way, way, way too much music, which means that sometimes his best stuff ends up buried under the songs that would have been edited out of the album if he wasn’t putting out 3 albums that year. But, man, the best of his songs? Are great. [And then you throw on top of that the best of his stuff with Whiskeytown. Ahhhh.] I suddenly feel this urge to blast Magic, which is going to piss off my downstairs neighbor.

Um, unless I’ve turned into a 17-year-old girl with a whiskey-and-smoke-flavored voice and a mane of red and purple hair, then, no, Allison, you are not Just Like Me.

i checked one radio in the Philippines and he was #2 on the hot 30
http://www.magic899.fm/WhatsHot.aspx

as for the singles sales.. idk

Still cool. I just remember the Tweet from this morning saying Kris was number one in the Phillipines. But still, number two is not shabby at all!

i checked one radio in the Philippines and he was #2 on the hot 30

and he’s been #2 since a week on their daily top songs countdown.. not bad at all..

LOL, I love Kris’s dry sense of humor. It’s sick! Then what’s the step beyond sick?

I wonder how many are in his band and what instruments.

There’s a new video of Adam talking about his Details photoshoot.

Done with first day of band rehearsal. Sounds sick! Seriously you will throw up.
31 minutes ago from Echofon

Is he making fun of using the term sick? in which case hmmmm, interesting. Or is he just not getting the use of the word sick? in which case, awwww, so adorable.

Anyhew, Adam is working with Lady GaGa on a song. No idea if it’s for his upcoming stuff or hers or something entirely. Still he must be thrilled to work with someone he likes and admires so much. ETA: it’s a solo work for him and presumably for his new album. Hmmm. Well that’s cool I guess.

I think he gets that the thing to say now is it’s “sick”. He’s just being literal and taking it another step, thus the dry sense of humor…lol.

Or perhaps the first practice wasn’t very good, lol. But, I’d bet on the first use.

Done with first day of band rehearsal. Sounds sick! Seriously you will throw up.

Is he making fun of using the term sick? in which case hmmmm, interesting. Or is he just not getting the use of the word sick? in which case, awwww, so adorable.

It’s a joke, a play on words. No band sounds good the very first day they rehearse together, particularly to themselves if they’re perfectionists.

LOL, I love Kris’s dry sense of humor. It’s sick! Then what’s the step beyond sick?

i know. very dry humor.. love it!!!

I wonder how many are in his band and what instruments

his brother twitted his congrats to Cale, his bro’s newest band member. So it seems that the band formation has been going on since a little while. Someone twitted Kris to post a picture of the band.. that would be nice to see one

I think he gets that the thing to say now is it’s ‘sick’ . He’s just being literal and taking it another step, thus the dry sense of humor’ ¦lol.

Like being so good people’s faces would melt off. I’m sensing a trend.

Or perhaps the first practice wasn’t very good, lol. But, I’d bet on the first use.

I’d bet as well on the first use as well.

Just downloaded Carrie’s song “Temporary Home”. It is a beautiful song. You can get it at Itunes. Type in “Temporary Home” and it will come up on itunes.

Any Clay Aiken fans who can explain what was up with his (bad) singing in that gala he performed in back in Sept?

I listened to the videos and was shocked by the deterioration in his voice. Surely this couldn’t be the same man who sang ‘Solitaire’ so masterfully?

Thanks, ozarka

One of the more endearing traits he exhibited on American Idol was the fact that he wore his hair slightly different for each performance. He managed to change his hair so that the style reflected the song he was performing in some way or the era from which the song was taken. He even managed to pay homage to Elvis Presley with the way he styled his hair for his performance of the great love ballad, ‘Love Me Tender’ . One could say that Archuleta keeps his hair at a perfect length for taking on many different styles with ease.

CoolMensHair.com (several photos on display)

The writer is very observant. Usually hair stylists on Idol try to match hair styles and clothes with songs. He actually keeps his hair not too short and not too long. I know he doesn’t like it too short because when he gets a haircut too short, he would apologize on tweets. LOL.
The pictures on CoolMensHair.com are good ones. He has naturally nice dark thick hair (without dyeing), and personally, I love his spiked hair with lots of hairspray. haha.

Kris did a interview this morning, there talking about it on twitter. He said he talk to Adam a few days ago. Also he well be doing the Christmas Bash in Buffalo. Said he’ll be singing some Christmas Songs. Talked a little about the cover art, and a couple of people that might be on his album. Nothing about his album songs that made the cut, or nothing about the music video.

RE: the interview ilovekrisallen39 is referring to

You can listen to Kris’ interview with BUFFALO KISS 98.5 HERE or download the MP3 from ONTD_AI

thanks leeann for the link to the interview. Hmm, Christmas songs, ok.. but want to hear the new ones

Interesting. Cook didn’t sing any Christmas songs at the “jingle balls” he appeared at last year.

Thanks for the Kris news even if it was a bit difficult to locate. I come here to see “Kris”news and I have to go to the end of YESTERDAY’S headlines to find any. What gives with Kris? Where is his publicist? they really need to be stepping it up a bit.

LOL, yeeeah no, not so much. I like his music because, well, I like his music. *shrugs*

Lots of people may like Ryan Adams’ music because they like his music, but that doesn’t change the fact that lots of people “like” his music because they think they’re supposed to. The two are not mutually exclusive. Heck, I like Joe Jackson because I like Joe Jackson.

Why did you think my comment was directed specifically toward you? People take things waaaay too personally around here…and by “around here,” I mean the Interwebs…Yeah, I’m burning out a bit.