Robin Gibb Dissed ‘American Idol’ – He was firmly dismissive about the contribution of reality television like American Idol, although he performed on its stage a few months later and, on this season’s finale, the show’s young contestants sang his hits in tribute. “This is gladiator television that’s not really about talent so much as television ratings,” he said. “And of course whoever wins is going to have a big album.” He went on to say how most of the kids on the show were “straight out of the shopping mall.” “I am frustrated,” he replied. “It creates the idea that the industry is being controlled by people like these judges. They are the soothsayers, they are the kingpins, and it’s all governed by these three or four people. That message is going out to millions of viewers because of the popularity of the show. There’s a feeling of intimidation. Truly talented composers think they can’t get past these people. Real artists get put off because they think that’s how the industry is run and they get frightened.” – Read more at The Daily Beast

Jessica Sanchez Lands in Washington DC – ?American Idol? runner-up Jessica Sanchez arrives in a DC Airport in Washington DC on May 25 2012. Jessica will be performing at The National Memorial Day Concert, where she will perform the National Anthem and ?The Prayer?. – See the Photo at Zimbio

@IdolsNow tweets – “Who was PHILLIP PHILLIPS‘ favorite Season 10 Idol? The week the top 13 was chosen, he told us about his favorite season of the series: “I watched season 10 the most because of Casey [Abrams]. He brought something different and he kept me interested. I really liked that and that’s what I want to do this year.” ”

The Finale: Singing the Phone Book

Shape Summer Beach Tour hits Hermosa Beach with Jordin Sparks – “American Idol” fans can catch Season 6 winner Jordin Sparks, who will make an appearance at the event at 2:30 p.m. After your workout, head over to an after-party at American Junkie (68 Pier Ave. Hermosa Beach) from 3-5 p.m., where Sparks also will be on site to sign autographs. – Read more at the LA Times

Stars arrive for Foster gala – Michael Johns, the Australian singer of American Idol fame, seemed equally smitten. “This reminds me a bit of my hometown, Perth — the clean air, the beautiful boats and buildings, this glorious Empress,” said Johns, who was pumped about getting asked to sing Rick Hansen’s theme song, Man in Motion, at tonight’s Miracle Concert. “David said he never gets to perform it because he can’t find good rock singers,” said the dashing singer, who performed an acoustic version for the Hansen biopic Heart of the Dragon, and met Hansen for the first time Friday. “David calls it his ‘rock song.’ I like that.” – Read more at TimesColonist

Paula Abdul Offers X Factor Advice for “Very Sweet” Britney Spears and Demi Lovato – “Live television is just that,” Abdul told us at last night’s Lupus L.A. Orange Ball at the Beverly Wilshire Hotel. “You have to go with the flow, speak your mind, and just remember millions of people are watching. “I think they’re going to be fantastic,” Abdul said about Spears and Lovato as judges on the show. She added that Spears seems “lovely” and “very sweet,” adding, “Demi seems sweet as well.” When we asked if she’ll watch this season of The X Factor, the 49-year-old said, “I’m a fan. I’m a fan of all of these shows. My humble beginnings have always been mentoring and helping other people.” – Read more at EOnline

 
  • phil_atlanta2

    TMZ article and video on Kris and AI finale. They also had it on their TV show last night. They manage to diss both AI and Kris in one fell swoop. Good job Nigel sucking up to TMZ!

    http://www.tmz.com/2012/05/25/kris-allen-american-idol-finale/

  • http://twitter.com/MissGolightly22 No Thanks

    Get those performance gigs and work the media, Jessica!

  • Anonymous

    This isn’t the best picture, but Hollie did a show for the Dallas top 40 station today.  
    http://lockerz.com/s/212041307

  • http://www.etsy.com/shop/AdorablyHooked Gwen

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Nigel aided in that dissing, either.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DJ4FPAE2BM4XDCNVQITJSS3S2Q Sue

    New videos of James at Rock on the Range, I believe this is the full set: 
    http://www.youtube.com/user/wickmanfam/videos?query=James+Durbin

  • too-cool-for-school

    Not sure who is worse – TMZ for their hyperbolic headlines or their readers for never bothering to watch the video prior to commenting.

    In my experience I don’t think their articles have ever once matched up to what the person in the video actually said, ha-ha.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    The crowd seems to respond really well to James, even if they aren’t previous fans. And no one seems to be bothered because he came from Idol.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    I don’t know if it was here before, but Kris Allen told TMZ that he thinks the show has been going on too long.

    http://www.tmz.com/2012/05/25/kris-allen-american-idol-finale/

    ETA: didn’t see phil_atlanta2 already reported it

  • http://twitter.com/Sassycatz Sassycatz

    David Cook’s people have yet to confirm this booking but the Manila end of it seems pretty trustworthy. It does jive with what David said about touring in Asia in July.

    [CONFIRMED] David Cook LIVE in Manila! July 14, 2012 Araneta Coliseum by Dayly Entertainment (@ Day_Ent) cc @ ManilaConcerts @ thedavidcook

  • phil_atlanta2

    It doesn’t matter what you and I think after watching the video. The fact is the story has been picked up by more “mainstream” media with the same misleading headline and worse. Nigel bears full responsibility for giving those bozos credibility by featuring them on AI.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/25/american-idol-kris-allen_n_1545991.html

  • http://twitter.com/raya4 raya

    I would never take anything posted on TMZ seriously.  The stories or the comments.  I’m sure Fox is itching to listen to the idiots who post there when the show is still posting better ratings that almost everything else on tv.

    The Kris non-story will blow over, like everything else.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Jessica will be performing at The National Memorial Day Concert, where she will perform the National Anthem and The Prayer?”

    Nice appearance for Jessica. I’ll be interested seeing her post-Idol performances and hope that she never has to sing that horrid “coronation” song again.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DJ4FPAE2BM4XDCNVQITJSS3S2Q Sue

    No one cared that he came from Idol at the Golden Gods either and he never tried to hide his Idol past in any of the interviews he’s done with the rock/metal media. So much for “an Idol will never break into rock/metal” James is doing it.

  • http://twitter.com/mcdeallover Sunny Mc

    Um… Leadardo Kris never told TMZ that, if you bothered o watch the video, the stalkerazi guy told Kirs the ratings were down 29% and asked Kris why.  Kris said it’s been on al long time.

    TMZ has never let facts get in the way of a good headline.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    mmm, he says on the video going on for too long, which means MAYBE should be cancelled. Maybe not, maybe I’m wrong but I’m just reporting because I thought it would a little bit relevant.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AGWO435FL6UN2ICRVTFLWRJZSA Lexie

    Scotty concert after the Braves game tonight:))

     Judy Cooke McCreery
    ?@JudyMacGarner

    @ScottyMcCreery in Hotlanta! Plays at Turner Field at 7:30pm http://pic.twitter.com/O6qpKCXD

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    I understood going on for too long and I’m just reporting it.

  • Pixie Baker

    It seems to be an *American pastime* lately to report few facts and create controversy where there is none.  Conspiracy theories are every where…..geeesh! 

  • Anonymous

    Rick Dees @rickdees
    @KrisAllen stopped by the studio and perfomed his new song “The Vision of Love” check it out!!!  

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T44ZmLxV9RA

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think too many people think that TMZ has any credibility, nor do people seem to understand why TMZ has been on AI over the past two seasons.  Just look at some of the stories that Nigel planted with them this season that didn’t go beyond TMZ, and did nothing to boost the show’s ratings.

    And considering that AI was once again the number one show on the air this year, and drew more viewers than any other regularly scheduled show, I don’t think that Nigel or anyone else cares about that poll.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DJ4FPAE2BM4XDCNVQITJSS3S2Q Sue

    At one of the interviews at ROTR James confirmed that James Michael is producing his new album, I’m sooooooooooo excited, it’s gonna RAWK HARD m/

  • http://twitter.com/whiskey401 Whiskey

    Adam will be the featured artist on F Word on Music Channel on Demand, Monday, June 11th.

    MC’s new original show, “The F Word,” gives you the inside scoop on what
    it’s like to be famous — and everything that comes with it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCkWCNStpn4

    Adam was on Argentina TV news. They talked about him making history on his #1 album and his upcoming Queen performances. 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqwrPFOB_i4

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GED45R7LV4QERBS74RT6INK65I fed

    eh. it’s the right explanation for why idols’ ratings are dipping (the trend in tv ratings down in general, aside). 

    a show that goes on for a long time just has a natural decrease in viewership. ER, friends, desperate housewives, grey’s anatomy, all saw viewership declined as the seasons wore on. it’s just how tv works. 

    doesn’t necessarily imply that the show should be cancelled. just that that is  a valid explanation as to why ratings are down compared to previous year. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    James Michael co-wrote Higher Than Heaven, but also co-wrote Love me Bad. Let’s hope the James Michael of HTH prevails. lol

  • Anonymous

    LOL that singing the phonebook skit gets better each time I watch it. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DJ4FPAE2BM4XDCNVQITJSS3S2Q Sue

    You’re thinking of Marti Frederickson, and thank God it’s not him!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JKPGOWSHLKLHHRL7DORPZXZ2NI Valarie

    James Michael is the lead singer of Sixx:AM   The Sixx is Nikki Sixx of Motley Crue.  The A is DJ Ashba who is the lead guitarist for the current incarnation of Gun n Roses as well as Sixx AM.   The M is James Michael.  Check out their hit song, Life Is Beautiful at youtube.  They do the same kind of extremely melodic hard rock that James does so well and have had a lot of success at both active and alternative rock radio.

  • Anonymous

    who’s Robin ??

  • justmefornow

    I love that interview. He confirms James Michael as producer, talks about standing up to Jimmy Iovine about song choices, and calls Axl Rose, soulful, but a dick. (I couldn’t agree more. lol)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnlUZZ8TCTc 

    Oh and Marti Frederiksen wrote Love Me Bad, not James Michael.

  • http://twitter.com/whiskey401 Whiskey

    I’ve been very surprised to see how the WGWG meme has taken on a life on it’s own in mainstream media and now it’s gone International.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztE9G99FgjY&feature=youtu.be

    I do think Phillip Phillips seems to be the WGWG that the media likes so he may end up getting a lot of support in actually being relevant.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DJ4FPAE2BM4XDCNVQITJSS3S2Q Sue

    Thanks Valarie. SIXX:A.M.’s This is Gonna Hurt was, IMO, the best melodic hard rock album of 2011, every song on that album is AMAZING. Also Michael has just finished producing Papa Roach’s new album. If James wants to get onto rock radio then Michael is an excellent choice to craft a wining sound. All James has said so far of the new album is that they’ll be doing “a lot of different stuff, a lot of heavier stuff and big solos” and in a twitter party a while back he said he wants to go further into metal and do more classic power ballads. I like this direction and can’t wait!

  • Anonymous

    I am sooo excited that James has once again confirmed starting on the sophomore album in September – and James Michael is the producer – all I can say is wooooo hooooo!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    May I just voice my opinion at what a jerk Robin Gibb is being here?  He had no problem performing on the show, but then pretty much throws all the past Idols under the bus by saying they are straight out of the shopping mall and the show is more about ratings than talent.  Don’t any of these big stars remember what it was like before they got their big break?

    It’s hard enough for these Idols shaking the Idol stigma after the show is done, let alone when big stars dismiss them all as not worthy.  It disgusts me.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AGWO435FL6UN2ICRVTFLWRJZSA Lexie

    Scotty got to pitch some ceremonial pitches:))))

     Kristin Grunwald
    ?@kristing13

    @ScottyMcCreery pitching with Kimbrel! #Braves #pumped http://pic.twitter.com/rGY5JcsG

  • http://twitter.com/CanadianLady2 CanadianLady

    Interesting that Phillip confirms it. All along, I’ve seen him as Casey Abrams II without the beard, long hair, and bass, and with the southern accent. :) Hope they get together soon to jam. 

  • justmefornow

    I agree about This is Gonna Hurt-Great Album!

    This collab with James Michael is the perfect fit for James. If he does go more in the direction of SIXX: A.M.’s sound I can totally see this working with his voice and style of powerful melodic rock. I can’t wait to hear what they’ve been working on!
    One of my favs:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzAv7K8BtN0&ob=av2n

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    I`m a big Motley Crue fan and I`ve got both Sixx AM`s albums on my somecomputer. I like many songs but I also think others are pretty generic. But I think James Michael is an excellent producer and will find good songs for James. Do u have numbers for Sixx AM`s sales?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AGWO435FL6UN2ICRVTFLWRJZSA Lexie

    Three strikes:)  And a Braves jersey:)

     CANADA’s McCreerians
    ?@natroysam

    BUSTED! @ScottyMcCreery … NEVER would you wear GLASSES IN PUBLIC!! Haha! GOTCHA! With your Braves’ Jersey!<3 http://pic.twitter.com/THG1D9Dg

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AGWO435FL6UN2ICRVTFLWRJZSA Lexie

     thirdtime, Robin Gibb is the one who just died…

    Yes, wish he hadn’t said those things, but I have to wonder why anyone would bring up what he’d said at this point? 

  • Guest

    Haha you got me excited, I thought he would be wearing real glasses instead of sunglasses :)

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Thanks Sue been looking for his setlist.  Not my ideal set for a hard rock crowd, would have liked ‘Liberate’ and ‘Back for More’ in place of ‘Stand Up’ and ‘Love in Ruins’, but kind of understand why they were selected.  Since those two songs are not on his cd he avoided disappointing people who purchased the cd at the concert.  I’m stoked about James Michael too.  IMO the formula for his next record should be the following mix of song types:  2-3 metal, 6-8 hard rock, plus a couple of rock ballads like ‘Crawling Home’.  I think he needs ballads to show off his other strong points, like his underrated falsetto. 

  • Guest

    He just said its been going on for so long that ratings are bound to go down. Shows don’t stay on top forever. And after it’s 11th season, despite the drops this year, idol is still doing pretty damn well. Number 1!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AGWO435FL6UN2ICRVTFLWRJZSA Lexie

     Grant Tiberghien?@Babylove4L

    Scotty McCreery playin’ catch with Hinske. #atlbraves #swag http://instagr.am/p/LGfXoCAoB7/

    S10fan, sorry about the misleading tweet–the tweeter wrote that, not me;)

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    Yeah, I confounded it. But I also think James Michael co-wrote some songs with James Durbin, am I wrong?

  • Anonymous

     I am not at all surprised that Phillip liked Casey A. I thought the same thing that Phillip did. Casey did bring something different to S10 and he kept me interested too. I hope that these two will jam together. I would love to see that.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DJ4FPAE2BM4XDCNVQITJSS3S2Q Sue

    James co-wrote HTH with both Frederickson & Michael, as well as an unreleased song called “In the Name of Love”. Frederickson co-wrote LMB with some guy called Mark Holman, neither James nor Michael had anything to do with LMB. James co-wrote Crawling Home with DJ Ashba.

  • OffLeash

    And Kris is right anyway. The ratings started going down at the end of season 6, when a girl won BTW They were down this year even after the previous season’s winner had the most successful single and CD sales in recent Idol history, so it can’t be because WGWGs (since Scotty’s being dumped into the category) are flops either. 
    Yes, as much as we all here love Idol and have been following the show faithfully for all these years, more and more people got tired of it over the years. It’s just an old show.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AGWO435FL6UN2ICRVTFLWRJZSA Lexie

    The announcer on Sport South just commented about it being a very big crowd at the game:))

    And Scotty’s getting to watch the game sitting in the dugout:)  

  • guinness 416

    Jessica’s sort of lucked out with PeePee being sick, she can pick up the appearances that he would have made but can drop the godawful coronation song as she wasn’t the winner.  Wonder what she’ll do with the chance?  Hope she uses it to sing more urban stuff as she’ll be stuck with the torch songs on tour.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t read it that way at all.  He said that these shows create an illusion that they are the way that the entertainment industry works.  While a handful of talent may get a break, more are probably discouraged by the spectacle.  Be sure, they’d throw Elvis under the bus if they thought it would help ratings.

  • http://twitter.com/MoriaPolonius Moria Polonius

    That’s Phillipines though. No wonder they picked it up when Jessica lost.

  • Incipit

    “David Cook’s people have yet to confirm this booking but the Manila end of it seems pretty trustworthy. It does jive with what David said
    about touring in Asia in July.”

    Sassycatz, I was looking to see if FoolsApril had tweeted yet to confirm the July 14th concert – but I agree, the Event Planners whose name is attached to the original tweet – Dayly Entertainment -  look legit – their Facebook page is all about the Fray and LifeHouse shows at the same venue, Araneta Coliseum.

    I guess we wait and see – not like we have no practice at that! Heh.

  • Larc

    I can’t completely disagree with Kris.  But maybe “if Idol isn’t revamped” should be added as a condition.  It’s very badly in need of being overhauled from the ground up, IMO.

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    It is so easy for a writer to eliminate some things Robin may have said.  I don’t think he’s a jerk, and there are many who believe as he does.  On many points I believe he was way off base.  Other times, he was right on.

    Strange, I missed the part where he felt Siobhan was a very talented singer!

  • Anonymous

    KrisAllen:
    I would hope that people would know I love @AmericanIdol and that I would never say anything negative about the show. Ever. The show has given me an opportunity that I never would have had without it. 

    ETA: Enough said.

    David Ditmore @davidditmore
    I’ve interviewed @KrisAllen in Nashville for my tv station and I can say that Kris only had positive things to day about idol. #classact

  • Wes Parker

     No problem here with what Gibb said, and no problem with him performing, either.  The complaint that the music business isn’t about the music anymore isn’t a new one—it goes back at least to the 90s, when it was more important for singers and bands to look good than to have any integrity with their music.  Boy bands, anyone?  The Disney machine got much the same criticism—a bunch of cute tweeners dancing around, lip synching, using magic microphones, and dressing and acting about ten years older than they actually were.  Look at Idol—was Jessica allowed to work in her comfort zone, or was she pushed to sing the ballads? 

    Music execs want safe, bland, singers who look good and do what they are told. Kinda of like the music business in the 50s before the Bopper and Buddy Holly.

  • Anonymous

    Delete

  • Anonymous

    Kris is not the only idol that has had a negative post on TMZ.  TMZ did many negative posts on David Archuleta in the past. There were so many that I can’t even remember them all. I think Nigel is very aware of what TMZ posts on idols from AI and does nothing to stop the stories.

  • shamrock

    2-3 metal, 6-8 hard rock, plus a couple of rock ballads like ‘Crawling
    Home’.  I think he needs ballads to show off his other strong points,
    like his underrated falsetto.

    And he needs some ballads to continue steal and melt my heart. ;)

    I am excited,too, at the confirmation of James Michael as James producer for his next album, I think it will be a good fit.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     I think Araneta Coliseum is where David A. headlined last July too… he had a real successful tour over in Manila and Asia last year from reading here at MJ’s… Cook playing follow the leader in Asia, lol – Just kidding before the Cook army swoops in :) I believe in going where the money and demand is… Does Cook have a strong following in Manila?

  • Anonymous

    How is Nigel supposed to stop them?  He’s the producer of a television show, and the idol alums are public figures, who are going to be on the receiving end of negative press, and false stories.  That’s just something that happens when someone is in the public eye.

  • Incipit

     Hillstreetblooz, yes, he certainly does. The Cookistas are probably the largest fan group David has in Asia – and very pro-active. They already have TLS playing on the radio there, on two different stations in Manila and Cebu, and Twitter lost it’s collective mind when the announcement was first made. Java, Singapore and Malaysia have all their fingers crossed…waiting for more dates.

    Looking at the Facebook page, that venue seems to get used for a lot of acts from the USA – could be the same promoters, as well, IDK.

  • Anonymous

    Cooks’ touring in Asia means Phillipine, Malaysia and Singapore??

  • http://twitter.com/CanadianLady2 CanadianLady

     Wouldn’t surprise me at all.

  • Anonymous

    I love that clips from “The F Word”. Now I just have to make sure that I watch it when it’s on LOL.

  • Listening

    Well Nigel could at least not have the contestants go on TMZ. What’s up w/ that giving publicity to the show that bad mouths your contestants and feeds the public secret/leaked insider information. When I first heard TMZ revealing insider info about stuff behind the scenes I was like Nigel must be ticked off and then what was it a few weeks later all the contestants are on the show i’m like whaaaaaaaat.

  • Incipit

     Jazz_11 we don’t know where it means yet – but those locations have fans who are hoping. Indonesia has been giving him lots of radio play on about 20 stations for “Hard to Believe”, and now they have begun to spin TLS.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     Good Luck to him on his Asian tour – from all reports Archuleta was received very well, made a ton of cash, had excellent promotion and turnout – all without benefit of a label or professional mgmt dipping their fingers in the pie, so Cook should do as well.  

  • Anonymous

    That’s because Nigel was the one doing the leaking.  Instead of fixing the problems with the show, he and Simon Fuller decided to follow Simon Cowell’s tactic of trying to boost the ratings by getting bad press.  Thankfully, it didn’t work.

  • Anonymous

    Music execs want safe, bland, singers who look good and do what they are told. Kinda of like the music business in the 50s before the Bopper and Buddy Holly.

    True. Which is why, in five years, Music execs, labels, publishing houses, and agents will no longer be relevant. 

    Artists/writers and listeners/readers don’t need the middleman anymore to connect. The singer/songwriter will release to his fans and listen to them. And respond – directly – to them. A writer will write. And readers will respond. No one needs the middleman anymore. 

    A new world is dawning. 

  • http://twitter.com/Sassycatz Sassycatz

    Cooks’ touring in Asia means Phillipine, Malaysia and Singapore??

    Indonesia should definitely be on the list. They’ve been playing Cook’s music like crazy there. It would be nice if Japan was included also. They certainly promoted him enough there during the last album cycle, and he does have fans in that country as well.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     Did TLM have any chart presence in Asia or Japan? I don’t know much about international charts or radio, but every little bit helps. Idols tend to get played in these regions more freely and with less politics, which is good. SonyAsia seemed to play (and for some reason still plays) a large part in David A’s promotion and support in Asia, so maybe there will be some ancillary support for Cook too… Their joint concert in 09 in Manila hasn’t been forgotten, so that should be an easy promo point.

  • http://twitter.com/Sassycatz Sassycatz

    Did TLM have any chart presence in Asia or Japan?

    I have no idea. I know his songs have been #1 at different radio stations, but I don’t know how that translates to chart positions. They may account for things differently than we do. I have no clue.

    Depending on what this tour consists of, I would guess the $$$ are going to be used to finance his next album.

  • http://twitter.com/MissGolightly22 No Thanks

    She sure did.  P2 being out of commission for the next 5 – 6 weeks will give her the edge.  She’ll get all of the promo and will be able to take advantage of more money making opportunities.  She’ll also get a jump on making her album too.

  • justmefornow

    More summer dates for James are starting to pop up.
    James and the band have added 2 shows on July 10 and 17 with Texas metal band Drowning Pool:
    http://theticketrumba.com/tickets/1140 
    http://www.stubs.net/events.aspx?keyword=georges 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

    He’s got to do what he’s got to do. No shame in that, and he gets to keep more of his money now, without RCA leeching off him.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

    James is really working it. I like to see good hustle, and this guy is hustling to make his bones in his chosen genre.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AGWO435FL6UN2ICRVTFLWRJZSA Lexie

     Braves Big Screen?@BravesBigScreen

    Biggest crowd reaction outside of Ugglas HR has been for any mention of Scotty McCreery.

  • Anonymous
  • http://twitter.com/Sassycatz Sassycatz

    He’s got to do what he’s got to do. No shame in that, and he gets to keep more of his money now, without RCA leeching off him.

    Hey, no shame. The US is saturated with acts looking for performance spots and money is tight; Europe’s economy is crap right now. Asia’s where it’s at right now, economically. Without backing, he needs the cash and he has a big following in certain quarters. He will give them his music for the transaction. I think that’s a pretty good deal.

  • Anonymous

    Tonight James and band are playing with Fuel.  Ironic…that’s the band that wanted Chris Daughtry to be their lead singer when he first came off Idol.

  • http://twitter.com/BazzleFjsm Bazzle

    Sing the Phonebook! That should be available for download

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

    “Asia’s where it’s at right now, economically”

    Good to see the David’s taking advantage of this. David A. managed to get out a little ahead of the curve last year, Cook gets his turn at bat this year, and I foresee other alum taking advantage of these lucrative international opportunities as they arise.  

  • http://twitter.com/whiskey401 Whiskey

    Did TLM have any chart presence in Asia or Japan?

    On following International charts the answer is no. Cook has many Asian fans but not on Archie level whose album has been certified platinum in several Asian countries. It’s great to see him staying busy and going where the money is at.  International touring pays big money and he can easily finance his own albums. It feels like he’s doing more promo now than he was doing during his 2nd era.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     Asian markets, especially Singapore, Manila and Malaysia, have been very kind and supportive to Idols, especially David A, and Cook. It’s a relief knowing there are markets and places in the world for them and others to ply their musical trade, and make a good living to boot, w/o being dependent on US radio etc. Granted, success in the USA still seems to be most coveted, but money from Asia is just as green as money in the US, so it’s all good…

  • Incipit

     hillstreetblooz, what else is good to see – both the Davids loved being in Manila for their show – and wanted to go back. Cool that finally Archie did and DC is about to – weird that they had to be loose from the Label to do something they both were wishing to do so much.

  • Anonymous

    M&G line for Kris after his show in Ocean City, MD tonight. NICE turnout  :)

    http://twitpic.com/9pnhxl

    ETA – People who think fans who go to ex-Idols shows are nothing but older women should check out the M&G pictures that are being tweeted — tons of tweens, teens and 20-ish fans at this show

  • Anonymous

    And Cook is not a complete stranger to Asia either. Besides his and David’s huge Manilla concert a few years back, Cook did a big concert in Singapore last year. I understand he has a lot of support in Indonesia as well.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     Isn’t it ironic… dontcha think? (tm Alanis Morrissette)  I’ve always liked that song, lol… Lotsa ironies in their respective career paths since Idol, but that’s life…

  • Anonymous

    Wow! Looks like most of the audience decided they wanted to meet Kris. I guess they must have liked the show.  :)

  • http://twitter.com/Sassycatz Sassycatz

    Plus, David was tied to the label longer than Archie and couldn’t always do what he wanted … not that he ever wanted to do a Philippine soap opera, but I am sure he wanted to come back and give a concert. Now, he can do it.

  • Anonymous

    Asia is a big market for most Idols. I know Elliott is very big in Japan, for instance, and pretty much any Idol who has toured Asia draws huge crowds. Also, Idols are all over the various radio station charts in places like Indonesia and the Philippines. For instance, Kris’ current single has been in the Top 10 of multiple radio station countdowns in Indonesia, and has even hit #1 on a couple of those charts. I’ve also seen Cook, Adam, Kelly and Haley on several of these radio station charts in the past few weeks, as well.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     He was in Singapore last year? Was it in support of TLM?

  • http://twitter.com/whiskey401 Whiskey

    The Asian market has been very good to Idols. I never understood why 19m didn’t take more advantage of the popularity of American Idol there with. It seems like a no brainer. Following Adam I know Archie has a very strong presence there along with Adam even before him parting with his label. After his parting Archie just had more time to promote and expand his base there even more. It’s smart that Cook is doing the same thing and even more the international fans are awesome.

  • http://twitter.com/whiskey401 Whiskey

    All the Idols get radio play and show up on these countdowns. It’s nice but pretty meaningless if they don’t take advantage and actually go there and promote the album. It’s what results in album sales and certifications. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

    One year between them losing their labels isn’t all that long, lol.. and who knows really when RCA decided not to renew David C’s option, but that’s all water under the bridge now… It’s good to see both of them the recipients of a lot of goodwill and support from their respective Asian fans… oh, and in that Filipino soap opera… David had a rather nasty, evil uncle that bore an eerie resemblance to David Cook… I guess David C. was somehow part of that experience whether he knew it or not, lol… Nice of David A. to give Cook a little shine when he least expected it, lol :) Nandito Ako did pretty well too – it will be broadcast in the States pretty soon – check it out :)

  • Incipit

     Suenigma, perhaps you mean the show David did with Alexandra Burke in Hanoi on June16th last year?

    I think Archie went to VietNam around the same time – but he went to Saigon?

    Circles within Circles. Heh.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     I swear that Alanis Morrissette Ironic song plays in my head thinking about the David’s, lol…

  • Anonymous

    There are over 1,300 comments on the Huffington Post reprise of the TMV story the majority of which are of the worst fan war variety.  Just want to say that I am grateful there is a place where I can discus Idol silliness with smart, sane and respectful people.

  • http://twitter.com/Sassycatz Sassycatz

    Following Adam I know Archie has a very strong presence there along with Adam even before him

    Archie is very big there. The concert with David Cook was just before Adam Lambert’s season on Idol was even over. Adam did not pave the way for Archie. I know that because Archie and  David was in Manila just after David’s brother, Adam Cook’s death, and that was in May of 2009. They attracted a huge, huge audience of over 100,000 people.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     MJ don’t play that, lol… folks on Yahoo and HuffPo get away with murder… I’ve just about stopped reading comments on those two sites, they’ve gotten so hideous… it’s a free for all most days, with just the worst of human nature on display…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

    That was an awesome concert… yep, that concert in Manila still holds a warm spot in my increasingly cold little heart, lol…

  • Incipit

    “Archie and  David was in Manila just after David’s brother, Adam Cook’s death, and that was in May of 2009. They attracted a huge, huge audience of over 100,000 people”

    That was an amazing show – and the Cookistas provided So many great videos. Loved the Finale of the two of them together.

    Ever since, they keep just missing each other, professionally – except once back in June of 2010, Archie was flying out of Salt Lake to go do a gig, David and the Boyz were flying in to do Rio Tinto- and they met in the airport.

    Archie tweeted for people to go support! And David plugged Archie’s book “Chords of Strength” at the concert!

    Those two are such friends. It’s cool.

  • ozarko

    Incipit, actually Archie had concerts in both Hanoi and Saigon (Ho Chi Minh City).

  • Incipit

     OK, Ozarko – I remembered the one in Saigon, at least! Heh.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

    Man, David and David get around, lol… Good that they have fans outside the US who show them support.

  • LVD

    FOX NC Interview with Casey J, and they also feature the Kris story. 

    http://www.foxcharlotte.com/news/top-stories/Edge-on-Demand-BAN-Anonymous-Posting-154279165.html?m=y&smobile=y

  • http://twitter.com/Sassycatz Sassycatz

    Archie is pretty big in Asia. I think that’s clear, and he’s been able to take advantage of his popularity more readily, building on it. Very smart.

  • http://twitter.com/whiskey401 Whiskey

    Never said Adam paved the way for Archie. Read my post again. I know all about the Davids co headling tour. I know Archie is huge in Manila on his own recognition. When Adam did his own headline GNL tour in Manilla to 20,000 without a supporting act there were a lot of Archie fans in attendance.

  • Anonymous

    I think it was Vietnam.

  • Kitwana

    David A did an Asian tour in November 2010 while he was still with Jive. It included Singapore, Philippines and I think Malaysia. I don’t think a label would ever discourage an artist from promoting a CD anywhere in the world where it believed the return on investment on the promotion justified the cost of promotion. Unlike most Idols who covet success in Europe after success in the US, David A has always pursued success in Asia. He has been rewarded for this. Channel V in Hong Kong, the MTV competitor in Asia, produced and paid for the music video for the 5th single (Wait) from his CD The Other Side of Down. The fourth single, Everything and More, finished #1 on the biggest pop chart in the Philippines for The 2011 year end countdown. Sony Asia released the Asian Tour Edition of The Other Side of Down after David left Jive and left 19R and Sony Asia co-sponsored his summer 2011 Asian Tour. Sony and it’s Philippines distributor Ivory Music released David’s latest CD Forevermore without Jive or 19R. All of which is to say that if I were an Idol contestant, I would do exactly what David A has done and actively pursue the Asian market. Europe is great but Asia is just as good.

  • Anonymous

    woah

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     Seriously – maybe after his mission is complete, there will be enough interest for another mega concert over there w/Cook? Just throwing weird ideas out there…  Why not try to capitalize on it if the demand is still there in 2014, DA’s projected return…

  • http://twitter.com/Sassycatz Sassycatz

    Archie and David are big in Asia, period. 

  • Tera2

     

    Asia is a big market for most Idols. I know Elliott is very big in
    Japan, for instance, and pretty much any Idol who has toured Asia draws
    huge crowds. Also, Idols are all over the various radio station charts
    in places like Indonesia and the Philippines. For instance, Kris’
    current single has been in the Top 10 of multiple radio station
    countdowns in Indonesia, and has even hit #1 on a couple of those
    charts. I’ve also seen Cook, Adam, Kelly and Haley on several of these
    radio station charts in the past few weeks, as well.

    Yeah, the Asian fans seem to support idol contestants longer after their season is over.  I think this will help Jessica Sanchez even more cause she’s half Filipino and already has a big following Philipines.  Being half Asian will help her popularity in other Asian countries too, and Pop/soul/hip-hop is big there too.  She will have a good long career there in music/stage/and showbiz in general cause Asia is a big market.  She’s one of those who was devoted to being in showbiz since she was younger and that tenacity and attitude will help with her career.

  • http://twitter.com/whiskey401 Whiskey

    Sorry Sassy, David Cook is not big in Asia. His sales would show it and it doesn’t.  NBD. Great for Cook he’s tapping into now and that’s what matters.

  • http://twitter.com/Sassycatz Sassycatz

    Sorry Sassy, David Cook is not big in Asia. His sales would show it and
    it doesn’t.  NBD. Great for Cook he’s tapping into now and that’s what
    matters.

    What are your numbers? I’ve been looking for numbers, and you sound like you know them. (And I’m talking about David Cook’s sales numbers in Asia.)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     Sweet – they both know how to pack ‘em in in Manila, lol… I think the Araneta Coliseum show for David A last July had estimates of 10k-15k in attendance, on a school night… I remember that, because a lot of fans were PO’d they couldn’t attend because their parents wouldn’t let them go to a concert on a school night, lol… I like seeing alum bring it, and represent when they go abroad, so here’s to Cook rocking Manila too…

  • http://twitter.com/whiskey401 Whiskey

    Sales are determined by certifications. Most Asian countries don’t have an official soundscan like we do here. When the label announces when an artists gets certified like Archie, Adam, Daughtry and Kelly in Asia you will know it. Adam got presented his Certifications by Sony reps in each country when he visited them. Daughtry received his also the same day Adam did. Sony already announced Archie’s. All these Idols have made the official charts of each country not radio countdowns which is not the same thing.

  • Kitwana

    Wow, Kris totally did not say Idol should end. He totally got Shirley Halperined. So unfair!

  • Incipit

    LVD, cool that they had an interview w/Casey, but he did the kickazz intro and started to do “Drive”! and then they cut it off. Boo.

    But they blew a chance to be Really Cool – they ran that ‘thing’ from TMZ without watching it – and joined the ranks of the rest of the web. I am still waiting for actual newspeople to go – “Wait. That’s not what he said.” Hasn’t happened. No wonder TMZ gets away w/murder. They could put up anything for a source. Nobody listens. Ironic to do that after a segment that mentions  bullying.

     So Not Cool, Charlotte. Sad to say.

  • Anonymous

    Do you have numbers to back up your claim Whiskey? By the way, did Adam’s album ever get certified platinum in the US?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4PLQMZV4QX7CHQCAUVXJBXYUCM wicked

    I’m disgusted with how one 25 second comment from Kris casually answering a
    question regarding why AI has gone down in ratings (“I don’t know – maybe it’s been on too long”)gets turned into “Kris wants AI to end”, “thinks they should pull the plug on AI”, “is bitter” – they actually infer that they are quoting him.

  • Anonymous

     James Michael didn’t have anything to do with Love Me Bad – at least I don’t think he did. I thought it was exclusively written by Marti Fredericksen.

  • Anonymous

     James is demonstrating a strong work ethic. Good for him.

  • Anonymous

    If he does go more in the direction of SIXX: A.M.’s sound I can totally see this working with his voice and style of powerful melodic rock.

    Sixx A.M. confuses me—the harder tunes they have, I absolutely love (4 tracks from This is Gonna Hurt–Lies, TIGH, Live Forever and Deadlihood) but the majority are too soft for me. If I’m in the mood for softer music, I switch genres. I wouldn’t mind if James’ sound is like one of those 4 tracks but I’m not digging the softer ones. Actually, I am hoping the majority of tracks on James’ second album will have a harder sound with very few ballads (I prefer none unless they are spectacular but I know to he’s already stated he will like to have some power ballads, so I am resigned) and absolutely no generic pop-like tunes.

    I’m not sure what James means when he says his next album will have “heavier stuff”—heavier music, or heavier lyrical content. I was assuming the latter but am not sure.

    Before I heard all the videos from the electric shows, I must admit I was a little worried about James’ future music knowing how much he loves My Chemical Romance and 30Second to Mars, whose sound I am not particularly fond of. But, now that I am watching them play w/Buckcherry I am much more hopeful he will stay with harder music….especially if the band stays the same (especially Dylan…he breathes metal).

  • http://twitter.com/Sassycatz Sassycatz

    Sales are determined by certifications.

    So, we really don’t have the numbers.

  • Nele621

    If there were over 100,000 fans at the Davids’ concert in the Philippines, they must have made many millions of dollars. I’m surprised Cook waited so long to go back. He should have been doing concerts there every year.

  • Anonymous

    I really don’t think he’ll be completing out of commission. I’m pretty sure he’ll be working after he is discharged from the hospital. Having surgery doesn’t mean you’re totally incapacitated. I’m sure he’ll he’ll be able to function, walk, talk, eat etc.

  • Anonymous

    Well he had pesky little things like a death in the family, a new album to get out and a change in management so  I don’t think it was entirely his choice not to go back.

  • http://twitter.com/whiskey401 Whiskey

    Gold certification in Manilla is 7,500 units. Platinum 15,000. If Sony hasn’t announced it than David Cook hasn’t sold more than 7,500 units. If he had came close he would have charted somewhere.

  • Anonymous

    Still no numbers right?  Just supposition. 

  • Kitwana

    Incipit: I would not hold my breath waiting for newspeople to call TMZ out on their misrepresentation of what Kris said. They can get more mileage out of repeating the TMZ story than correcting it. This is a frequent problem in the Idol press. The writers and bloggers often get the facts wrong. When fans try to correct them, the writer or blogger not only does not acknowledge the error but mocks the fan for being a “rabid fan”. It would be nice if other Idol writers or bloggers would call out their colleagues on their errors, bullshit or biased fantarding but that too almost never happens. If it did, Shirley Halperin would not have a career.

  • http://twitter.com/Sassycatz Sassycatz

    If Sony hasn’t announced it than David Cook hasn’t sold more than 7,500
    units. If he had came close he would have charted somewhere.

    I wouldn’t rely on Sony, especially under the circumstance. 7,500? That’s very low. No way he’s not sold more than that on either album. As for charting, I don’t have that info. That doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened.

  • Nele621

    That took him out of commission for four years?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

    Trying to get actual numbers from a lot of international sites or countries is difficult… All I know is that David A has sold a lot of CD’s in Asia. How many? We have never received an actual number, despite many requests… If the record labels gave him and the others mentioned platinum certs, then I assume their sales met and exceeded whatever their specific criteria was for that designation… It just makes this fan happy to know that there is a market and a demand for his music outside the US. Hoping he will be able to pick up and keep building on this in 2014 – he has laid a pretty solid infrastructure, so we will just have to wait… SonyAsia deserves credit for their solid support of him, even after he and Jive parted ways… they treated him really well, and gave him the kind of unstinting promotion and support SonyUSA never did… why? Dunno, never been inclined to look that gift horse in the mouth :)

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    James Durbin has a much more expressive/powerful voice than James Michael. Michael is more a producer/songwriter than a singer. If James Michael gave Durbin some material like Sixx AM I’m sure, with James’s voice, it would sound much more dramatic, agressive and (in the ballads) sweeter, with all due respect to Sixx AM.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     ”Rumor” was that they each were supposedly paid 250k? How true that is is up for grabs, but that number I heard bandied around a lot… what they were guaranteed, if they were given percentages of the gate – if they were paid for several appearances each made – dunno, but word on the street was that they were both well compensated…

  • http://twitter.com/whiskey401 Whiskey

    I took the number conversation to the number thread if interested.

    http://www.mjsbigblog.com/weekend-countdown-shows-%E2%80%93-052612.htm

  • Anonymous

    First year involved the never ending tour from February until December 2009.  The death of his brother occurred during the tour, but he kept on shelving his grief.  He started writing the day after the tour ended, but the music wasn’t there (by his own admission he started grieving and had writer’s block.  When he was able to write (sometime in 2010) he had to wait on his producer Matt Serelic (sp) to become available.  From what I understand this producer is a perfectionist and the record took longer than anticipated.  RCA was the one that decided to release it in June 2011.  During that time his management contract was up (May 2011) and he had no management until XIX (Simon Fuller) signed him in August 2011.  Yes Nele621 things happened that kept him from releasing another album or touring.

  • http://twitter.com/whiskey401 Whiskey

    I think Archie went 4x platinum in Philippine if I remember clearly. Very, very nice. The units sold aren’t huge numbers compared to US but the country has 90million people which is very good in proportion to the population.

    ETA: Artists don’t pay for certifications outside of US so it isn’t a matter of Sony not wanting to pay for them. Each country has their own division running that handles these thing separately from US.

  • Nele621

    They were robbed. They should have gotten millions of dollars.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     o/

    If true, this is the first time I’ve heard the actual estimated number… I knew there was a cert, but I never had a number to attach…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     Hey, no argument from me, lol… they both put on a helluva good show for the fans, the excitement was palpable both in Manila and back here for us too… unless one of them spills the beans, all we can do is guess at what they were really paid – both made the Forbes list for highest paid Idols that year, so who knows…

  • http://twitter.com/Sassycatz Sassycatz

    Certification has to be attained. It isn’t given to you like a surprise gift. You have to apply and pay for it.

    They were robbed. They should have gotten millions of dollars.

    All of those people did not pay to see the concert. As I understand it, between 65,000 to 70,000 people were within the concert gates and paid, and the rest (over 30,000 more) gathered outside to watch on big screens. They did not pay.
     

  • Anonymous

    I’m excited about Dave heading back to Asia.  He loved going there with Archie, even though he was having a tough time in his personal life.  They showed him lots of love.

  • LaurelG

    TMZ is just a bunch of scumbags. From the stalkerazzi photags who yell out stuff trying to get a rise out of someone to the “editors” back in the “newsroom” who make up misleading headlines. They’re all bottom feeders.

  • http://twitter.com/Sassycatz Sassycatz

    TMZ is just a bunch of scumbags. From the stalkerazzi photags who yell
    out stuff trying to get a rise out of someone to the “editors” back in
    the “newsroom” who make up misleading headlines. They’re all bottom
    feeders.

    They definitely twisted Kris’ meaning and blew it all out proportion. The fact that he felt the need to qualify it publicly is ridiculous. TMZ creates something out of nothing. No better than Murdoch’s FAUX News

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     Scumbags!! I like the sound of that, lol. They’ve earned the label.

  • ozarko

    Archie earned 6x platinum in Malaysia.  In Malaysia, as in the Philippines, 15,000 units is considered platinum, according to Wiki.  Here is a photo of him receiving his plaque from Sony Music Malaysia in 2011:

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

    O/ – Effing awesome -  I don’t remember seeing this… did MJ have a post that I missed, lol… Thanks Ozarko, this is really great! 4x plat in the Phils, 6x plat in Malaysia… SonyAsia FTW! Hurry back David, lol… This makes me want to see him in concert.

  • Anonymous

    Gold certification in Manilla is 7,500 units. Platinum 15,000. If Sony hasn’t announced it than David Cook hasn’t sold more than 7,500 units. If he had came close he would have charted somewhere.

    Sony never bothered to certify or publicly announce several milestones that idol alums hit in the US, so why would they announce this?  

  • Listening

     How is platinum status determined I always thought it was based on
    population size? That’s why I sort of understood why in England Platinum
    status is 300,000 and in the USA it’s a million we have a whole lot
    more people. But 15,000  being platinum for a country the size of the
    Philippines that just doesn’t jive w/ my population theory.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

    I may be wrong, but in David A’s case, from purely an outside looking in fan’s perspective,  I prefer the way SonyAsia conducts business over SonyUSA… SonyUSA or Jive or whoever has NEVER certified Crush’s platinum status here, let alone its double plat status now in the states… SonyAsia was quick to cert him, and give him IMO far superior promotion and treatment than he received from their US counterparts… as far as I’m concerned, comparing David’s treatment from the 2, SUSA can kick rocks – Forevermore. SAsia treated him like a valuable asset even after he was no longer a Jive artist, so what does that say about them? SUSA – keep kickin’.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PSHFTD4YV3QOE3INABJUXZSWMU hillstreetblooz

     Our personal theories don’t matter – it’s what each country has set as their threshold… and they do vary greatly from those in the USA… check it out…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_music_recording_certifications

  • http://twitter.com/whiskey401 Whiskey

    Did you see the picture of Archie getting his certificate. There’s pictures of Adam and Daughtry too. Isn’t that official enough?

  • http://twitter.com/whiskey401 Whiskey

    The Asians are big in stealing music so I would say 15,000 is very good. 

  • Anonymous

    I believe that they base certification numbers on a certain percentage of overall album sales for the country. As technology has advanced (and ways to share files have proliferated), the certification thresholds have been lowered. The alternative would be having virtually no one certified going by the old numbers.

    From what I’ve heard, certain areas in Asia have been hard hit by illegal downloading of music — even more so than in the US. I have no idea what kind of impact its had on the European music market but I would think its similar to what we see in the US.

  • Anonymous

    Well.. Cook still has to pay Simon Fuller’s management company which I am pretty sure it’s not cheap

  • Anonymous

    Did you see the picture of Archie getting his certificate. There’s pictures of Adam and Daughtry too. Isn’t that official enough?

    That’s official for those three, (who weren’t actually the topic), but it doesn’t tell us whether or not anyone else has been certified Platinum. First you talked about Cook’s numbers, but now you seem to be saying that since we don’t have a picture of Cook receiving a plaque, that means that he didn’t sell Platinum or more. Is that correct?

    ETA: Sorry, reading back over my initial post, I see why you came to the conclusion that you did. I wasn’t doubting that they announced the certifications for David and Adam, I’ve seen the picture, my point was that since Sony has certified some albums and singles, but not others, why would we assume that they would make an announcement every time that someone goes Platinum outside of the US. Or, jump to the conclusion that if they don’t make that announcement, that means that the milestone wasn’t met?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/Y2H6IQWNMTSNTCTWDP7TDFEKPY Linda

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9KrGJz0YGk
    Here’s the first video of Kris in Ocean City tonight. It’s the girl song medley. I’ve never posted a link before; I hope it works:)

  • http://twitter.com/whiskey401 Whiskey

    What can I tell you. Not all fans are number nerds and keep track. Doesn’t mean Sony International isn’t giving out the information.

  • gferna

    Adam gave a concert in Boston (six flags, Spring Fling) today, with two other guys…  Fantastic set by Adam, largest crowd (more than 5K), according to reports… 
    http://965tic.cbslocal.com/2012/05/27/adam-lambert-javier-colon-jeramine-paul-deliver-the-biggest-spring-fling-ever/

    Maybe he doesn’t sell CD’s (I think his fans prefer to download for free, sob’s), but Adam’s live performances are superb HQ, ISO 9001 certified, etc…

  • http://twitter.com/whiskey401 Whiskey

    I’m waiting for HD Videos. Those live streams are horrible. The two other guys were Javier and Jermaine “The Voice” winners that opened for him. They were so excited to perform with him. Nice crowd size. Kris got a nice little shout out in the article.

  • ozarko

    I can see elliegrll’s point.  We Archie fans had no idea just how well David was selling in Asia until the news of the certifications and the photos.  It’s possible that no one bothered to apply for certification except until they knew that Archie was coming for a visit.  Perhaps when David Cook arrives in Asia, he will be presented with a plaque then, too. Then we will finally have an idea of just how much he’s sold there.

  • Anonymous

    How did you get that Adam fans prefer to download for free?? If his fans prefer to download for free he would not sell that 77K, didn’t he? Or are you saying that if all of Adam fans actually purchase Trespassing his 1st week debut number should be more than 77K.

    Anyway, Adam fans are very loyal and they buy anything that’s Adam. They even buy that limited exclusive package for $100K. They donate to Adam’s prefered charity, they’re really supportive.

  • revcat

    Adam’s fans buy 20 CD’s each or they download for free? I hear both and I want to be a good fanbert. Oh, I am so confused, my head is swimming. What to do, what to do…

  • Anonymous

    That was a universally positive write up of the concert. sounds like the crowd loved all three guys. And that was a nice mention of the Kris co-write that Javier performs.

    Don’t shoot me, but I don’t know about Adam’s outfit for this concert :)

  • http://twitter.com/whiskey401 Whiskey

    Lol. My entire feed is WTF is he wearing? #shitadamstanssay

  • Anonymous

    it works fine, thanks

    unfortunately it cuts off before he launches into his cover of Justin Bieber :)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YYRRCZL5KSSZAHDXW26V5DXFYM indigo

    If Adam fans didn’t pre-ordered his CD then his prediction for the first week would be 15-20 thousand but they predicted higher because his fans already pre-ordered.  Adam has very loyal fan base and support him with charities and purchases unlike other fan base, they are very supportive and protective of him.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YYRRCZL5KSSZAHDXW26V5DXFYM indigo

    I agree and love Adam for his love for out there stuff,he is wild and free spirited guy and does what he pleases and not take everything too seriously…It Ain’t that DEEP!!!LOL!!!

  • Anonymous

    Regarding low certification thresholds in Asia: as others have said there is a lot of pirating going on. Actually buying legit cds is fairly rare and the certification levels reflect that. One of the things I remember from my visits to various Asian countries is the prevalence of street vendors selling illicit copies of cds and dvds everywhere. So it’s really not that surprising.

    Now regarding the “does certification happen” discussion I really don’t think we can say for sure. I will say that I think the international divisions of Sony are much more likely to certify because it is great for promotion, much more so than in the home country. Because it shows that there is international interest, which is always a good selling point.

    But that does not mean they certify anything that qualify. If an artist is never going to build on his/her popularity in a country why bother getting a plaque for them? But I will say, when David does go to Asia, if he is not being presented with certification plaques there, then I think it is because the sales are not there. So we’ll see.

  • Anonymous

    it works fine, thanks
    unfortunately it cuts off before he launches into his cover of Justin Bieber :)

    Here is the rest with the Bieber cover of Boyfriend;
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8plDi3TWls&feature=channel&list=UL 

    Here are additional vids from the Kris’s OC concert.

    BWY:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcrqjS_C4ZE&feature=channel&list=UL 

    OA:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQCmBP7Vh44&feature=channel&list=UL 

    LLWD (clip):
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ7ZKHWvJ80&feature=plcp

  • Anonymous

    Except for Japan that is strict on cracking illegal downloads (thus their threshold is still high at 100k Gold, 250k Platinum, 1 Million is called Million), other parts of Asia especially China and South East Asia is big on piracy, unfortunately.

  • Anonymous

    Photo: Adam, Javier & Jermaine Paul at Six Flags

    http://twitter.com/TeamJavier/status/206602445206466560/photo/1 

  • Anonymous

    If a bald black guy wins the Voice next year,there’s def a pattern!

    I read that pirating is massive in Asia (exception Japan) so I don’t think the music market sells much at all. I think the money must be all in touring.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DJ4FPAE2BM4XDCNVQITJSS3S2Q Sue

    I couldn’t agree more. As far as modern rock & metal vocalists go James is one of the very best. I hope James goes in GnR, AC/DC, Zeppelin, Metallica, early Aerosmith kinda of direction by creating hard rock music that borders on and crosses over into metal, sorta play jump rope with the line that divides the 2 genres. This is gives him lots of creativity for sound and content and ample opportunities to show off all the aspects of his voice.

  • YankeeFan08

    Adam’s concert at Six Flags was fantastic.  Javier and Jermaine were great too (really good voices).  It was a big crowd and clearly they were there for Adam.  He received such an enthusiastic response.  The crowd was quite mixed as far as age range too.  It was nice to see the diversity.  Never Close Our Eyes and Naked Love got a huge reception.  Cuckoo too. Really all the songs did, but if I had to pick two I would say NCOE and NL.

    Adam looked adorable in his shorts.  It was nice to see a little skin.  He’s usually covered up in seven layers.  LOL

    I find it interesting that Joe Ricatelli and another RCA person have been traveling with Adam for the radio tour. Maybe they are trying to gauge crowd reaction to certain songs to help select the next single. One of the PLJ DJs said the other day that he had spoken to Ricatelli who said they are going to really work the album because they feel there are a lot of singles on it.

    If Adam can get radio play, I feel optimistic that Trespassing will do well. Fingers crossed that with NCOE going for CHR adds this week, some of the big boys will jump on board. Z100, I’m looking at you.

  • Anonymous

    You described my preferable direction for James to an absolute tee. Would be beyond thrilled if he meshed all those bands into his sound. 

    And I loved your description of playing jump rope between hardrock and metal–that is how I like my rock the best.

  • Anonymous

    Since Cook is no longer with RCA/Sony, I don’t know if he would be certified even if he did sell enough.  Guess we number nerds will never know for sure. Lambert hasn’t been certified in the US either.  Crush hasn’t been certified.  Doesn’t mean a thing.

  • Anonymous

    Reminder:

    The headlines thread is NOT the place for numbers discussion! The discussion has turned into an excuse to fan war, so I’m going to stop it right here.

  • http://twitter.com/MikhailXO MichaelG (MikhailXO)

    Whoa! Are inferring that AI fans actually partake in fan wars? Nonsense I say! :)

  • mmb

    i think that is correct that outside of Japan music sales in Asia don’t amount to much due to rampant piracy.  The money is made in touring and endorsement.  And there apparently is a LOT of money to be made in that regard.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe we can call Voice phenomenon BGBH(black guy with bald head). I agree with you about how bad music piracy is in Asia, but touring there is really profitable. 

  • Anonymous

     Oh yes, that’s a good point. I forgot he’d been dropped. So they may not bother. Of course Archie was dropped too, and they still got his stuff certified, so I wouldn’t count out the possibility. But I agree we won’t be able to say for sure.

    Last comment about certifications/sales (and then I promise not to speak on it any further, mj). The US is one of the few countries in the world where sales numbers are readily available to the public. Thus actual certification is less important, because anyone interested can go check the numbers for themselves. In most other countries sales numbers are very hard to come by, and certification is often the only way for the public to get an inkling of sales. Therefore, I think, labels are more likely to get anything qualified certified internationally, because it’s major bragging rights.

  • sagi

    Picture of the last 5 winners :) http://bit.ly/LzNbSl

    ETA: No disrespect intended, but they all do look similar!

  • djafan

    lol  Cook doesn’t have the same following in Manila.  David Archuleta’s songs are chart topping on radio all over Asia.  But that doesn’t mean Cook can’t test the waters and see what comes out of it :)

  • djafan

    SonyAsia and Ivory music continue to support and promote David A even in his absence.  David A accepting to endorse Bench was a great move IMO.  His face is on billboards, malls, commercials.  Forevermore single from Forevermore CD continues to chart at #1 after a month of it’s release.  A second single and video rumored to be Rainbow may be the next release.  Songs from David A’s The Other Side Of Down continue to be played on radio in Asia.  The mini series Nandito Ako in which David A is the lead actor is scheduled to air in the US this June.  And a US album BEGIN. is scheduled for release on August 7th.

  • Anonymous

    It’s great for Archie that he’s really popular in Asia and that his career is clearly big over there.

    I don’t believe Cook has anywhere near the same support in Asia and am certainly not expecting him to appear in a soap opera, or whatever it is.

    Alas, the fact that he might go over there and play for however many fans he does have is inevitably going to be sucked into some inane continuing fanwar. Sigh.

  • http://twitter.com/thePeachMango Peach Mango

    Nele621 1 day ago in reply to Salleyanne
    That took him out of commission for four years?

    My recollection is that Cook went to Manila in May 2009, only two weeks AFTER his brother passed away.  I recall that some Filipino fans were worried at the time that he would drop out, but he reassured them once he got there that missing the show was never a consideration.  (Though I do recall some Filipino fans complaining at the time about Cook not smiling very much or being somewhat aloof, which, given what he was going through at the time of the trip to Manila, were I thought kind of mindblowing complaints to be making.  Made me realize how I would never want to be a celeb — you have to be always on, or you’re apparently standoffish or not very nice.)

    Following that, he and his band continued to  tour until the end of November 2009, and was working on his album in 2010, which wasn’t released until June 2011.  Really, he didn’t have any new music to promote until mid-2011 and he toured primarily in the U.S. in late 2011.  I think that the parting with RCA et al probably took place in early spring as they were still talking about promoting him in Japan in January 2012, but then after that, it was silence.  

    But honestly, I don’t know where four years in your comment came from.

  • Anonymous

    Just wanted to say that HK isn’t as big on pirated cd’s as other parts of Asia, there are one on 2 stalls in the markets, but its really not that abundant. However we do have several HMV stores, and HK Records (another music and video store) that do good business. The pirated films/music are generally not very good quality, and because HK doesn’t have the same restrictions as China its easier and better to buy genuine cds. BUT saying that I’m sure that most teens download from the computer and do not buy either real or pirated music….

  • http://twitter.com/thePeachMango Peach Mango

    Well, from the artists’ point of view, there’s no real difference between a listener buying pirated music vs. a listener downloading songs on their computers.  The end effect is the same:  the artist doesn’t get paid for their  music.

  • Karen C

    David Cook does get some airplay in Asia.  Not only the Phillipines. They did release TLM in Japan, and I’ve heard that Hard To Believe was released as a single in Indonesia, and is doing well. He also did a show in Vietnam a couple of years ago.  It’s good if he gets to do more shows there.

  • Anonymous

    Didn’t say there was, just wanted to point out that not all parts of Asia are full of pirated goods on every street corner…and that teens are the same the world over, and download free off the internet.

  • mmb

    i think its fantastic if David can go tour in the phillipines, indonesia etc.  This is a tough , tough business but its a big world.  If you can make money in Asia, go to Asia; if your efforts are better spent in south america, go there; if you will do best at home, stay there.  There have always been american artists (both from idol and not) who have done better abroad than in the US — look at the Scissor Sisters , huge in the UK, but never as big in the US, or Lana Del Rey, she has done incredibly well outside the us but gets little radio play in the US, the UK seems to love her.  I could go on and on with more examples and include Idol alums as well.  Glad to see David taking the bull by the horns and pressing forward.