Glee Season 6 Spoilers – “Loser Like Me” Details!

Glee Season 6 Spoilers Loser Like Me Klaine

Beginning round two of the Glee Season 6 spoilers fest! Yesterday, I posted the full list of song spoilers, plus production credits, for the Glee Season 6 premiere “Loser Like Me.”

Glee Season 6 Spoilers: Premiere Title and FULL Song List!

Now today, I bring you episode details! I tried to answer the most pressing questions fans of the show wanted answered. Once again: Don’t shoot the messenger! And, if you use my spoilers I would like a credit as mjsbigblog.com AND a link bank.

Enjoy! Or maybe not.

Glee Season 6 Spoilers Loser Like Me

  • The time frame is fall. As I mentioned in my last spoiler post, there is a 6 month-ish time jump between season 5 and season 6.
  • Rachel, Blaine, Kurt, Sam, Figgins, Will, Sue, Karofsky, and some others I’ll mention in a bit, ARE in this episode.
  • Artie, Mercedes, Santana  are NOT in the episode.
  • Rachel’s pilot goes to series, but it bombs. The show is quickly cancelled. The fallout renders her Hollywood career dead in the water. Having burned her bridges on Broadway she has nowhere to go. She ends up moving back home.
  • Rachel  finds out that her dads are divorcing. Hiram has moved out. Leroy, who is in the episode, is the dad left at home.
  • Rachel , still dismayed that Principal Sue disbanded the Glee club, goes above her head to the Lima school superintendent. She convinces him to revive the McKinley glee club by offering to fund it with her remaining TV money.  He insists she be the director.
  • Blaine and Kurt are already broken up when the episode begins.
  • Backstory:  After Blaine moved back into the loft, the couple continued to argue.  Kurt decided they were too young to be engaged and broke it off. Upset after the breakup, Blaine allowed his grades to slip and was cut from NYADA.
  • In the episode, Blaine has already moved back in with his parents to regroup, and has taken a job at Dalton as the director of The Warblers.
  • After months apart, Kurt changes his mind about Blaine and heads back to Lima to try and get him back.  But too late because…
  • Blaine and Karofsky are a couple. They are dating. They even have pet names for each other. Yogi Bear and Boo Boo. And yes, I did throw up in my mouth a little when I heard that.
  •  Karofsky is a college student and totally out as a gay man.
  • Blaine tells Kurt he’s dating Karofsky.
  • After Kurt arrives in Lima, Rachel convinces him to run Glee club with her.  He remains a NYADA student, taking the job as an intern.
  • Figgins is a part-time barista at the Lima Bean
  • Sam works for Coach Beiste.  He is an assistant football coach at McKinley
  • Artie is still in film school. Mercedes is still on tour with Santana and Brittany.
  • New kids, Roderick, the nerd, and Spencer, the cocky gay football player, appear in the episode.
  • Will is the director of Vocal Adrenaline.
  • We’ll get to see Rachel’s pilot. It’s called “That’s So Rachel”
  • No Glee club tryouts yet.

A couple of NEW ITEMS

  • There is a flashback that takes place at Scandals. It explains how Blaine and Karofsky got together.  They bumped into each other at the club on “Country Bear Night.” Karofsky buys Blaine a beer.
  • The flashback occurs during a scene at the Lima Bean, Scandals where Blaine and Kurt reunite for the first time since they broke up.  After Blaine and Kurt talk initially, Karofsky appears as Blaine breaks the news to Kurt that they are dating.  The flashback is part of the reveal.  Blaine and Karofsky hope they all can be friends. Kurt keeps it together in front of them.

More New Items

  • We first see Kurt in New York, months after his break up with Blaine. Finally, he decides to speed date. One of his speed daters senses that Kurt isn’t over an old relationship and calls him out on it.  Kurt is surprised, but the experience sets him on the path to realizing that he still loves Blaine.

ETA: A fan who was present at the Scandals shoot, which took place 9/19, got a look at the call sheet.  Everything I described above happened at Scandals (including the flashback), rather than at the Lima Bean.  Also, according to the OP, the scene takes place near the end of the episode.

ETA: Details from the call sheet.  Kurofsky happens to be, line dancing.After Kurt Blaine and Karofsky reveal they are a couple and describe how they met, Kurt heads off to the men’s room where he breaks down in tears. In the flashback, it’s country bear night at Scandals. Blaine first spots Kurofsky line dancing.

ETA: Also, according to the call sheet, Rachel seeks counsel from Mr. Shue at a Vocal Adrenaline adrenaline rehearsal. This is where the group sing “Dance the Night Away.” – Source.

The Karofsky spoilers are KILLING ME. I’m happy Max Adler is returning to play the role, but pairing him up with Blaine is just a cheap way to cause controversy and create drama. Also, the idea that all of the graduates return to Lima and wind up working at respective high schools is ridiculously contrived. Glee never managed to work it’s way out of the creative hole it painted itself into when the stars of the show graduated high school at the end of season 3. I’m sure I’ll have more thoughts on this later.

  • dosqueen

    Woah.

  • Mia

    Dear god, the Karofsky thing is so gross I may have to skip this episode entirely, and just watch the performances later. What a cheap ploy – really, the writers couldn’t think of ANY other way to create drama for their characters. They were just desperate to get everyone back to Lima, and just totally hang any logic or coherent storyline. Awful, awful ideas. The only thing that makes sense is Sam!!

  • Darcy Evans

    Thanks MJ. Even worse than I expected. I thought I would watch and just FF Karofsky but it’s just too stupid to even think about watching. I’ll probably just watch some of the performances on YT. Very sad as I was a diehard fan that enjoyed all the seasons of Glee.

  • Pretty Horsey

    The whole episode sounds awful. The only part I like is that Mercedes, Santana and Brittany are still on tour and that’s not even going to be shown lol.

  • Paige

    The whole show is nothing but one contrivance after another – none of it makes sense for any of the characters involved, but oh well, plot first, characterization second! Apparently the theme of this season is “come back” and boy did they take that literally – let’s just reset everyone’s stories and bring them all back to the place that they were dying to escape from, just so that by series end we can bring them back to the exact same place they were when Season 5 ended. It’s sure to be riveting TV.

  • Bunny

    Finally we get to see Kurt wanting to get back with Blaine!! Praise the Lord!!

  • Mairead Nguyen

    At this point, I’m just going to be listening to the music rather than watching the episodes. Because this is total and absolute bullshit.

  • simonew

    If this isn’t the writers fucking with the obnoxious side(s) of fandom idk what is my god.

  • Valerie

    Kurt will try to get Blaine back? The boy who cheated on him? And who now dates karofsky? I guess the writers will once agian throw Kurt under the bus to make blaine look like the perfect and most desirable guy despite him being an immature cheater. Poor Kurt, he would have deserved better than that.

  • CommanderBlue

    I’m 100% here for Figgins. Everything else can be reduced to ashes that I can then piss on.

  • Ride Ride Pony Tonight~

    Ain’t gonna watch this season lol

  • CommanderBlue

    “once agian throw Kurt under the bus to make blaine look like the perfect and most desirable guy” LMAOOO nothing like that time they made Blaine a cheater so they could break them up without hurting Kurt’s character, or the time they made Blaine whiny and needy for Kurt, or the time they made Blaine insecure and “fat” to make him seem even lesser than perfect specimen Kurt’s , who he was desperate to hold onto even though he was completely ~~~~unworthy. girl sit down. if anything this is them finally trying to make Kurt look like he gives a damn after a season of near indifference. it’s still shit tho, breaking them up at all.

  • we’re not a couple

    Kurt chasing after cheater/ready to move on at the first chande Blaine? Truly the death knell. Bye Kurt, bye Glee.

  • EdisonHSM511

    i understand the Rachel part, that happens they cancel pilots but the Klaine thing?!?!!??!?!?!?!? also only 13 eps and no auditions to glee club? PLEASE RYAN MURPHY DON’T GO AND FUCK EVERYTHING MORE PLEASE TRY TO FIX IT. only watching because its the last season and im going to tell people that im not watching it.

  • supersonic

    I just laughed hard at those spoilers. I don’t understand why Max Adler would come back to do this. Was he hungry? Did he just buy a new house and he needs to pay it off? Why?

  • Justine Wendkos

    please tell me this is some sick joke

  • disqus_kPCtWHBhIH

    lol as if blaine wasn’t a big enough piece of crap last season. dating the abuser of your ex-fiance after a few months? bye.

  • disqus_kPCtWHBhIH

    oh blaine stans

  • Mia

    Because he’s the only one who probably comes out of this mess well. The writers care more about writing a story about those ‘poor closeted bullies’ and giving him a happy ending, than they do two of their central characters, who were in a hugely popular relationship, that (a lot of) the viewers loved. Instead of spending the final ever season of this show gradually leading up to a wedding for Kurt and Blaine, and spending time on their careers, we now get most of this season having to endure Blaine dating Kurt’s old bully (remember the sexual assault and death threat?!), and Kurt having to ‘prove his worth’ to win him back. It’s all so gross – I can hardly believe this is what they think will bring viewers back to the show (or even just keep the few they still have)!

  • Robert

    I doubt he’ll still want Blaine back after he finds him dating the guy who threatened to kill him. At least he wouldn’t if he had any brain cells left.

  • Robert

    Wow. Everything hinted that it was going to be bad, but this is way worse than I expected. Blaine left college over a break-up? Pathetic! Kurt leaves college to get his boyfriend back? NO. Rachel cares more about her old Glee Club than trying to salvage her career? On what planet? I give this 3 episodes before Fox has to yank it off the schedule and replace it with reruns or some new Gordon Ramsey show.

  • Robert

    Also this makes it pretty clear even if Klaine do get married they are headed for a divorce a few months later.

  • mchalerivera

    Because a job is a job? Lmao not everyone is obsessively invested in a TV show with a limited shelf-life like the fans online.

  • mchalerivera

    Still excited about Max being back and the nicknames had me rolling, they’re hilarious. Also, Blaine failing out of NYADA is hysterical. Love it. Bring this trainwreck on.

  • http://twitter.com/maxsmom61 CathyMK

    I guess I’m the only one, but I’m kind of interested to see how the Blaine/Karofsky thing plays out. Finally, Blaine gets a mid-game ship! At least Blaine will finally be with someone who openly shows him affection. I’m not sure why either Kurt or Blaine would ever trust each other or want to be together again at this point anyway, and I’m glad to see Blaine is the one trying to move on for once. If I were Blaine, I wouldn’t believe that Kurt would keep any of his promises once they got back together, given Kurt’s history of ignoring or being angry at Blaine most of the time whenever he’s sure of Blaine’s devotion. I’m sure that by the end of the season Karofsky will be noble and step aside so that Blaine can be with his “soulmate,” even though it breaks Karofsky’s heart, but I’m way, way past the point of wanting a Klaine happy ending. I’d rather see either with Karofsky, or Sebastian.

    Please, let’s have everyone pour out their troubles to Figgins the barista, like he’s their local bartender.

  • Paige Turner

    Pretty sure that in the Glee universe Kurt has already forgiven Karofsky, and the dude has been redeemed. In fact, Kurt wanted them to be friends. But yes, it’s always Blaine that’s the bad guy. Even when his fiance dumps him, and he flunks out of school because he’s so upset. How about instead of character bashing we just all accept that the writing is atrocious on all sides.

  • Robert

    I don’t think you’re accounting for how heavy handed Glee’s writing is. This isn’t about Blaine/Karofsky, it will be about Kurt the same way Finn/Quinn was really about Rachel. The writing will want you to sympathize with Kurt and the only way to do that is to make Blaine look like an insensitive jerk (which apparently won’t be to hard in this case).

  • Christina

    Oh, they threw Kurt under the bus plenty of times. Taking away almost
    his entire POV after TBU just so they could make what Blaine did look
    less bad? Making Kurt take Blaine back with no real explanation of how
    he got to that point or why he thought that this was the right time?
    Having Kurt make jokes (!) about BLaine’s cheating (something no one who
    has ever been cheated on would do) just tell viewers “See? If Kurt
    makes jokes about it then it couldn’t have been so bad, right?”, having
    stay with Blaine despite all of his immature and whiny behaviour? Kurt
    spent all of season 5 reassuring Blaine of his love and telling him how
    great it is, and just because in one episode he stood up for himself the
    Blaine stans say he “didn’t give a damn”. Ridiculous. Kurt should have
    broken up with Blaine a long time ago because he deserves much better
    than a whiny cheater like him. I do hope the writers have given up on
    their “Klaine is endgame” farce because if Blaine can date Karofsky
    despite what the guy did to Kurt in the past then he isn’t worthy of
    ever getting Kurt back.

  • Robert

    I don’t think you can blame Kurt for Blaine ignoring his studies. I mean my fiance died my junior year of college and I still kept up my studies.

  • Christina

    One can only hope the writers will give up on klaine being endgame now. Kurt can do much better than a cheater who will date his former bully.

  • Christina

    Kurt not keeping any promises? The only one who constantly breaks promises is Blaine. and he is the only one of the two who never has faith in their relationship. Kurt tells me again and again and again how much he loves him but Blaine never believes it. Blaine has become such a terrible character, I hope Kurt doesn’t get back together with him in the end.

  • Robert

    It’ll still be endgame but they are going to have a hard time selling it to the audience. Then again we were supposed to believe Rachel would leave Broadway after a month and that Santana just left Brittany in a foreign country.

  • Frank

    Why the hell is that good? Kurt run the other way.

  • Frank

    They are throwing everyone under the bus. Kurt wouldn’t go back to Blaine. Blaine wouldn’t date Dave or get kicked out of school. and Rachel never would have been bored with Bway so quickly and done all that stuff.

  • http://twitter.com/maxsmom61 CathyMK

    I know it’ll probably work out that way, because the show’s narrative can never acknowledge Kurt’s mistakes, but I’m going to pretend for a while. Blaine is also, in reality, probably with Karofsky because they are united in their self-loathing over how much they’ve each hurt Kurt, since both of those characters only exist to revolve around Kurt (except for Blaine’s brief and glorious moments of independence in Season 4). That’s a storyline that makes me ill to think about, so I’m going to live in my fan fiction world a while more.

  • disqus_kPCtWHBhIH

    Yeah, let’s root for the relationship that contains a sexual assaulter and abuser.

  • Christina

    Even if Kurt has forgiven Karofsky that doesn’t mean that it’s okay for Blaine to date him. You have to be a particularly uncaring person to be able to date someone who caused so much hurt to someone you love (or used to love).

  • disqus_kPCtWHBhIH

    You literally have no argument against Kurt when Blaine immediately runs into the arms of his tormentor.

  • Christina

    Right, cause the fact that Kurt set up the band for their reunion, or the all the times he told Blaine how much he loves him and how important he is to him don’t count to Blaine stans apparently. I’d rather see Kurt with a new guy then with someone who cheats on him the moment his back is turned.

  • Vini Bhatt

    I agree. If they had had Klaine break-up during the season and end with Blaine/Karofsky, even then I’d be okay. But this, seems just like a cheap ploy to remind everyone how Klaine are soulmates and meant to be. Ugh!

  • Vini Bhatt

    Seems like Santana/Brittany got off easy.

  • Julie

    I’m not sure they pay the cast enough for this…

  • Vini Bhatt

    What the hell kind of ‘My Best Friend’s Wedding’ BS is this?

    I’m not a Blaine stan. In fact, I actually hate Blaine because he is dumb and insecure… and he’s done more than his share of shittiness – drunkly molesting Kurt, cheating then blaming him, publicly proposing to Kurt even after Kurt told he would THINK about getting back etc etc. But that still doesn’t excuse Kurt actively breaking up Blaine and Karofsky because he dumped the guy, then had a change of heart and wants to get back him.

    Fuck Kurt and Fuck Blaine and Fuck Glee. I am only here for Dave/Max getting a happy ending. Others can go to hell.

  • Paige Turner

    I get that people are still really bothered by Karofsky and what he did to Kurt. Totally understandable. My point is simply that I think we’re meant to believe that David is now *reformed* and a good guy – I mean, having Kurt forgive him in the first place was ridiculous, but he did. Whatever, the whole show is ridiculous and it’s not worth arguing about. All of the characters, and their respective fans deserve better.

  • Vini Bhatt

    They are bound by their iron-clad contracts. They can’t leave without Ryan Murphy suing their underpants off.

  • Julie

    It doesn’t say anything about Kurt actively breaking them up. He comes back to apparently talk about getting back with Blaine who then informs him he’s dating Karofsky. Anything beyond that you appear to have made up. Unless you have spoilers MJ doesn’t form somewhere.

  • Christina

    Yes, the actors are the ones I feel sorry for too, especially Chris. What the writers are doing now is character assassination, pure and simple.

  • Vini Bhatt

    Oh, come ON! Don’t you know how Glee works by now? If Klaine are broken up in the off-season and Kurt wants to get back with Blaine (or vice-verse), then writers will move heaven and earth to get them back together, because Klaine are “soulmates” and “meant to be together. Forever and ever and ever.”

  • Julie

    Except the writers will want you rooting for Klaine so they’ll have to make Kurt the sympathetic character which mean Blaine will probably end up being the bad guy the way Finn looked bad rushing back to Quinn even though he was clearly still in love with Rachel. These writers only know a few plots and they just keep recycling and recycling them.

  • Frank

    I think high writers would do better than this. I think they just do not care.

  • Vini Bhatt

    I don’t think they’re high. They’ve just stopped giving a fuck anymore

  • Julie

    Right which by Glee standards means Blaine will realize he still loves Kurt, break-up with Karofsky just as Kurt starts moving on and then have to win him back. That’s what Glee does with it’s mid-games. Finn had to get Rachel back after she cheated because he saw her with Jesse and Brittany had to get Santana back even after Santana broke up with her. THAT”S how Glee writes their reunions. The person with the mid-game has to win back the person who broke up with them (Klaine’s proposal being the one exception although you could argue it wasn’t Kurt who got the mid-game then but Blaine with his endless crush on Sam).

  • Vini Bhatt

    He’s getting married. Maybe he needs the money. I just wanna see his movie career take off, he’s in a few indie movies this year.

  • Vini Bhatt

    Oh, shush. No one cares about Karofsky or his happy ending, except Karofsky fans. Klaine will get back in max 2-3 episodes and Karofsky will be forgotten, never to be brought up again (like after his suicide attempt). Maybe, if we’re lucky we’ll get a 30s epilogue where he is out and proud with some generic husband and a kid (reusing that flash-forward scene).

  • Tim

    The benefits of being characters the writers don’t care about. Their fans had it pretty bad in season 4 tho

  • mchalerivera

    He’s not getting married anymore.

  • supersonic

    Really?

  • Vini Bhatt

    They’ll be one of those “Tom and Jerry” couples who don’t know whether to stay together or go their separate ways…. like Liz Taylor and Richard Burton.

  • supersonic

    I want to see his movie career take off, too. He’s better than this.

  • Vini Bhatt

    Both are technically assaulters and abusers. Blaine also drunkenly molested Kurt, then guilted into having sex with him, and he has been nothing but emotionally manipulative towards Kurt. If I were Kurt, I’d let them both rot together and find someone who deserved me, instead of wanting to get back with the guy *I* dumped for being an asshole, and who is now apparently dating my ex-bully.

  • Angie

    Wow. Blaine stans should probably be worried. I mean they cared enough about Dave to bring him back when any random would have worked just as well so I doubt they’ll throw him under the bus (I mean they always pat themselves on the back for telling his story) and then you have Kurt who they’d never throw under the bus in a million years (Plus he’s in the New Directions narrative that I assume we are supposed to be rooting for). So guess who that leaves…

  • Mateja Praznik

    LOL. I admit I only watched the first season of Glee (which I loved), Reading the episode summaries and spoilers makes me think Kurt and Blaine really aren’t a good fir for each other. Too bad I’m certain they will end up back together before the end of this final season and they will get married. IMO, they should stay as far away from each other as possible.

  • mchalerivera

    They both unfollowed each other on Twitter a while back and the fiancee moved (IDK if permanently) to New York and tweeted/retweeted negative things that were alluding to the demise of the relationship.

  • Angie

    But they are clearly OVER paying the writers.

  • Angie

    Next stop: Divorce Court!

  • Vini Bhatt

    That proposal was shit, and I don’t know how people can defend it, especially the same people who criticized Finn/Rachel for being too young and immature to get married. I get representation and I get wanting the same treatment as the straight couples, but 17/18 IS too young to get married, no matter your orientation.

  • Angie

    Also what was the point of the proposal that ate the Beatles tribute if it’s completely moot now. I mean it wasn’t something I cared for but it meant a lot to Klaine shippers and I feel bad that it’s basically worthless now.

  • Angie

    Yeah but going but what I think will happen this season, apparently 19/20 is the perfect age to get married. I mean that whole extra year and a half makes a huge difference (sarcasm).

  • Ross

    How come that if Blaine does shitty things it’s the show fault, but then Kurt doesn’t even do anything and you get mad at him? The show making Blaine a cheater doesn’t make Blaine untouchable, otherwise every character who made mistakes should be excused by saying ‘it’s RIB’s fault’. Their choices reflect on the characters. Also, ‘the show’ made Blaine say he preferred Kurt when he was ‘just kurt’ and alluded he wanted to go back to the time where Kurt was hurt, but it’s all the show fault, Blaine has nothing to do with it!!
    Ps: you say to ship klaine, but then claim kurt was indifferent to blaine last season (just because he LEGITIMATELY called him out when Blaine said he missed being ‘the manly one’), i mean, why do you ship a couple if you think one of the two characters treats the other with indifference? lol

  • Vini Bhatt

    Lol!

  • Angie

    Man I remember when I thought season 4 was as bad as it could get. I was so naive.

  • Vini Bhatt

    Damn! I liked them together… they looked good together.

  • Vini Bhatt

    Oh, poor you :(

  • Vini Bhatt

    Over-paying in weed and hallucinogens, it seems.

  • Vini Bhatt

    They are gonna get back together by butchering another classic song, just wait, you.

  • Angie

    Suddenly I’m praying that all my favorite artists start hoarding the rights to their songs.

  • Ross

    Excuse me? Kurt doesn’t keep his promises? What show are you watching? If i recall it’s Blaine who cheated on Kurt and AGAIN it was Blaine who thought Kurt would leave him because he was getting stronger, seriously what you said doesn’t make any sense. I don’t care if you want Blaine with anyone but Kurt, but at least try and be objective lol

  • Vini Bhatt

    Lmao!!

  • supersonic

    Dang. That’s too bad.

  • Vini Bhatt

    I just realised… Blaine’s nickname for Dave is “Yogi Bear”. Isn’t that what Kurt called him at some point? Is Blaine fucking projecting now?

  • Robert

    At this point I’m expecting the next batch of spoilers to include Artie in Jail, Puck back with Shelby, and Will having traded his baby for a new car. I mean clearly no one is safe.

  • Mia

    No, just the writers thought the joke was so funny the first time round, they’re recycling it. That’s how lazy it’s gotten!

  • Robert

    More importantly will they joke about trying to get into each other’s “picnic baskets”? I mean Glee could start it’s own slang trend.

  • June

    Blaine is the absolute worse. Has there ever been such a needy, whiny character? I think even more people will stop shipping Klaine after watching this ridiculous crap.

    And gross that Kurt has a plot is in this episode and still doesn’t sing.

  • Vini Bhatt

    No shit! It’s not only lazy, it’s freaking horrible because I’m pretty sure Boo Boo was Yogi Bear’s kid brother.

  • Vini Bhatt

    Kurt stopped singing ever since Blah started getting all his solos.

  • Vini Bhatt

    I am gonna puke now.

  • James

    What is this garbage? The Blaine/Karofsky thing makes me want to hurl. I am finished with this. No, thanks.

  • Robert

    Why let Kurt sing when he can be sung at.

  • James

    Because his career is dead and he’s always been so thirsty for glee work. That’s easy to figure out.

  • Boo Bear BB

    I hope they’re paying Darren Criss extra to have to pretend to be into that pile of flop sweat and desperation. Damn, who hates him that much?

  • Vini Bhatt

    Please. He was guest starring in Switched at Birth on CW, he’s doing 3-4 indie movies plus he is doing the cons and other independent jigs etc.

  • Boo Bear BB

    He’s always been obsessed with Glee to the detriment of the rest of his career. Honestly, there’s no point in blaming Max here. If they didn’t have him to dick around, they’d just do something else even more gross. Clearly they’re trying to destroy the show on the way out. Maybe somebody will have the good sense to pull the plug before anybody has to see any of this.

  • Robert

    Forgot to say thanks to MJ for the spoilers. We may not like all of them but I’d rather go in prepared than be blindsided by some of these. Although I may wait for some of my favs to actually show up before I even venture in this season.

  • June

    It’s ludicrous to me that he can’t at least join Rachel in a song when she asks him to help her lead ND. She has three solos! Wouldn’t that make some sense? But instead of the NYADA student who never sings, he will be a choir director who never sings!

  • Boo Bear BB

    I can’t even imagine how anybody could enjoy Klaine or root for them after this. Congrats, Glee. You destroyed the last thing fans still cared about in the most disgusting way I ever imagined. Not sure why you’d want to do that, but it takes a special level of wanting everything to burn in hell to do it like that. Everybody’s a total loser and screwing the people who made their life and the lives of those they once loved hell. It’s like you went to special effort to make everything about season 6 as awful as you possibly could.

    Good luck to anybody who plans to watch this. Even if they didn’t get a hit from the giant destructo wand this episode, I’m sure they’ll get their turn next week as Rachel sings about their pain and Blaine and Dave screw their way to impossible to like land.

  • Boo Bear BB

    What audience?

  • Turtle_Island

    Blaine is insane. I thought he was bad and needed to see a therapist last season. Now he’s gone off the rails even more. I really don’t want to see him anywhere near Kurt. He’s a parody.

    And I’m sadly laughing at how Kurt decides to help lead a show choir and finds out his ex-fiancé and ex-bully are dating and still doesn’t sing anything. So will he just be photocopying hand outs for the kids during his time with ND? Because that’s what I’m expecting.

  • Truffles

    Ok so Rachel drops out of NYADA, quits Broadway, fails in Hollywood… the self centered, egoistical, me me me person, who never cared about anyone when it came to performing, person who backstabbed people so she could have solos, who tried to kick Santana out of the loft cause of an audition is gonna donate money for Glee club and teach kids. What a load of BS. BTW how can someone who only had HS education teach at a HS? Is this a thing in USA? Also YAY for breaking up Klainer, cause thats such a toxic relationship. How are they soulmate??? With all the cheating and lying and fighting… Hmm. But yeah… am gonna skip this episode. Looks like I am gonna skip about 70% of this season… so basically just slightly more than season 5.

  • Penelope Morris

    This is just vindictive. I’ve never seen a show that hates their own fans this much before. What did they do? Not like Marley or something?

  • Penelope Morris

    Why would you even want that after this? Clearly Blaine needs a LOT of professional help. The guy has obviously gone off the deep end and has no self-respect anymore.

  • Richard Allen

    Interesting spoilers, you know I don’t have a problem with the Karofsky & Blaine thing because I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s all a red-herring i.e. Blaine pretending to be dating Karofsky in order to make Kurt jealousy, it’s a typical TV plot and makes perfect sense to me.

  • Robert

    It’s pretty spiteful to pretend to date someone who threatened to KILL your ex though.

  • Penelope Morris

    We’re meant to believe a lot of things Glee says, but doesn’t actually back up with any kind of a decent story to support it. That doesn’t make this mess any less unwatchable bullshit. This is all offscreen nonsense designed to inflame the few people left who might still make noise to make the show seem relevant. They went to that well too many times already. In however many months it takes Fox’s new shows to fail so this gets on the air, nobody’s going to be there to watch this. The rats started jumping well before this idiocy and this sure as hell won’t bring them back. A few hundred people screaming online won’t fix the black hole their ratings fell into.

  • Penelope Morris

    This. Lewis Carroll wrote some incredible trippy stories on all kinds of drugs. If they were high on something good, they might not hate their own fans enough to do this sort of thing out of spite and a desperate desire for attention.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Really lame story lines. I have no interest in watching at all. I’ll just check out the odd musical number on videos here.

  • Incipit

    “I’ll just check out the odd musical number on videos here.”

    Indeed. I’ve been doing that since the first season; when mj posts about a song I recognize – I’ll check to see what the “Glee Treatment” left of it. None of them have made any large impression – but this thread about what happened to the story line makes it seem like a very good thing that I lost interest in the show itself. smh.

  • Penelope Morris

    Well, it’s been fun or something adjacent to it at least. Thanks for the reporting MJ. It’s much appreciated, and you are the only thing here that rocks. Sorry for the unfollow on Tumblr, but I just don’t want to know anymore.

  • Turtle_Island

    …why do you think that makes it better? I would not want Kurt to date someone that manipulative and insane.

  • James

    I’ve been asking myself the same thing. Someone hates him big time if he’s being asked to make goo goo eyes at that. I’d demand hazard pay.

  • James

    Try telling that to someone else. The guy’s career is dead. Deal with it.

  • Robert

    All this time and Blaine still can’t get a plot that’s not about who he’s dating? That’s sad enough to be funny.

  • Mia

    I’ll second the thanks to MJ. Going into this episode blind would have made me cry very angry tears, at the direction this show has chosen for it’s final ever season. It’s an old gag but, New Directions? No Direction, it looks like. I’ll keep following MJ, because the more information I have about season 6, the less I have to watch without knowing what’s coming. I prefer it that way. Keep up the good work of ensuring that the fans of this show are aware of just how much contempt the writers hold us in. That’s the only explanation for these storylines, it would seem.

  • Julie

    Sounds like he sure got over his “soulmate” pretty quick.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Does the title of this episode, “Loser Like Me” forecast that anyone coming back to Lima is a “loser”? That’s a pretty downer kind of theme for the final season.

  • Fae206

    How sure about this are you ACTUALLY because you said one of the song spoilers was ‘Let It Go’ from Frozen. You also seem to be catering to all fan bases and have people who hate Klaine following you. I’d really like proof of this since I can’t find factual evidence anywhere else.

    Also, Disney and Fox are competitors when it comes to showing media and pop culture. I HIGHLY doubt that Disney would allow this song to be in the episode without a budget that Glee has been shown not to have, more than that, because of the importance of the song (since it seems to look relevant), I doubt Glee wouldn’t want to capitalize on it (which since it’s Disney owned, they can’t). If they sing it as a small song or just hum the tune, though they’d still have to pay, it seems worthless to include a song that popular instead of going for something else.

    I don’t question your validity entirely because it seems the writers really are looking for some way for this to fail, but it seems odd that you, who are asking people multiple times to ‘follow them’ are the only one who has written about all of these spoilers in such a fast time.

    Sorry, but I don’t know if I believe this.

  • Julie

    But they have to be “losers” so they can build them up with huge undeserved wins that come out of nowhere in the finale. I’m expecting about ten filler episodes even with the 13 episode season.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Ah, OK. lol

  • James

    Blaine is not a real person. Ryan Murphy and co are. They don’t see anything wrong with this so they’re writing it. It’s sort of scary. Can anyone actually even talk about Glee and the characters now? After everything? I mean someone is writing this! And yes, scary.

  • http://www.ceciliaw.se/ Cecilia W

    This is hilarious! I bet that RIB sat dawn and tried to come up with the storylines that would piss people off the most :D I kind of like Rachel’s storyline, I did think she got her “Funny girl” part too easy. It will be nice to see her struggle. The Kurt+Blaine+Karofsky part… well… don’t like that as much.

  • http://www.ceciliaw.se/ Cecilia W

    BTW, don’t you think that Chris Colfer has asked specifically for as much time off Glee as possible, to get more time to write? And that’s why they are breaking up Klaine? That’s my guess.

  • girlygirl

    I don’t watch Glee, so I may be way off here, but it seems like Ryan Murphy has come up with plot lines deliberately meant to tick off the remaining fans as much as possible. You’d think he would want the show to go out with a bang. But from the reaction I’ve seen on the internet, it seems like no one’s going to watch.

    Of course, people say that about their favorites shows all the time when they don’t like plot lines and then still tune in, so we will see.

  • Turtle_Island

    It’s not like anyone else does.

  • A.T.

    Kurt is still a student at NYADA…but interning at a high school in Ohio…? Makes sense because teleportation! And why would there be any internship opportunities in NYC? Oh, glee.

  • Julie

    Other characters have gotten character arcs though. Not that they were well written, but you had Finn with football and then teaching the glee club, Hummelberry applying to college, Kurt’s band, Rachel’s dance teacher, Santana as the understudy and her brief foray into dance, Brittany had Fondue for Two and her Britney comparison, and Emma’s OCD to name just a few. Heck even Sam got a quick arc about modeling. Blaine’s are always about who he’s dating (Kurt) or who he’s crushing on (Sam). He’s just such a wet noodle of a character. I mean even him wanting to go to NYADA was about Kurt and now so apparently is his leaving. It’s laughable.

  • supersonic

    Boo Boo was Yogi’s best bear buddy. They weren’t brothers; they were just friends and sometimes roommates.

  • supersonic

    Don’t put that out there.

  • Julie

    Yeah, it’s like a lot of this make huge amounts of no-sense, but they couldn’t even get the minor details right either. Although I’ll assume there’s a class at NYADA called “So you’re being held hostage in your hometown 101″ and that Kurt is earning course credits.

  • Mia

    I’m guessing they realised that, if they had him drop out to come back to Ohio to win his BF back, that would be all 3 NYADA students dropped out of college! Add that to Santana dropping out, Mercedes (presumably) no longer studying at UCLA, Brittany leaving MIT, and you end up with a core regular cast with only a single college student – Artie – in it. That’s ridiculous – so they’ve decided that Kurt gets to complete his college degree, and just handwave any and all credit requirements a musical theatre student would have, and decide that coaching a bunch of high schoolers through show choir for a few months is equivalent to a 4 year degree! It’s Glee!

  • A.T.

    Lol!

  • girlygirl

    That’s actually possible. I interned in California for a whole year when I was still a college student in Kansas. I took classes online.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    If Kurt has a reduced role in this final season, I’m hoping that it’s because Chris has asked for time off.

  • tripp_ncwy

    Also, the idea that all of the graduates return to Lima and wind up working at respective high schools is ridiculously contrived.

    All of these former students coming back to work in the educational system with little or no formal education and/or certification. What an inspiration to the other students at the school and current staff.

  • Vini Bhatt

    Did this serial EVER have qualified teachers?

  • http://www.ceciliaw.se/ Cecilia W

    Also: THANK YOU MJ for feeding us spoiler-hungry fans what we need! So much appriciated, you’re doing a fenomenal job. Really, thank you!

  • Vini Bhatt

    They’re prolly breaking up Klaine because Darren n Chris don’t get along….

  • Vini Bhatt

    It depends on what course you’re taking. Some courses you can take online classes, some courses you need to be present in campus. I’m pretty sure NYADA requires you to be on campus, for auditions and performances n whatnot.

  • A.T.

    I interned in L.A. while going to college in N.Y., but I took classes in L.A., and it was a program set up through the school. I wouldn’t think NYADA would have an internship program with McKinley. Usually you can’t just intern anywhere for credit. But…it’s glee.

  • Jamie Smyth

    Thanks for the detail – but now that I read these, I now know that I will not be watching Season 6. Spoilers are great, but a little bit goes a long way, I don’t see the need to know every detail. It’s like “I Do” all over again.

  • Julie

    Meh I think there’s still enough mystery about how the songs fit in and when. I mean it’s pretty clear Kurt probably doesn’t even appear in Lima until the end of the episode and the Klaine stuff is the main bulk of these spoilers. And the Rachel stuff is only setting the stage so there’s still plenty to watch for those masochists out there who want to.

  • mchalerivera

    Weird, because Max actually filmed a movie and Switched at Birth over the summer while Darren did nothing.

  • mchalerivera

    Darren probably suggested Max for the job. They’re really good friends and share an agent. Sucks for you.

  • Turtle_Island

    Kurt seems like he will have plenty of presence, and if anything, Darren and Chris will continue to have most of their scenes together because now Glee has to reunite Kurt and Blaine. There’s no conspiracy here. Anyone hoping this means they will have different screen partners are going to be out of luck. It’s the worst storyline for anyone who wanted to see either of them having something that doesn’t have to do with their relationship, because that is the only storyline they’re going to have.

  • Boo Bear BB

    With his “straight” image and an album coming out? No way he’d want to drive off his own fans like that. Friends doesn’t equal stupid. Somebody fucking hates him.

  • sunchick

    Holy crap that sounds awful and depressing. The whole thing about being a loser in high school is that you eventually figure out that you can move on to greener pastures and find yourself as an adult. Not, you know, go back to high school as a even more pathetic adult. They went from empowering youth to saying never mind, once a loser, always a loser. Not so cute anymore.

    Why break up Rachel’s dads? Just to make it cynical as well as depressing? Speaking of, the Blaine story makes it seem like the growing up and maturing he and Kurt went through last season was a mirage. Kurt gets cold feet and all that crap about leaps of faith and commitment goes out the window and in response Blaine acts out in the most immature way possible. Since it’s ridiculously unhealthy and possibly mentally unstable that Blaine would be dating anyone seriously in such a short time span after breaking off a year long engagement to a long term boyfriend, plus the fact that it’s Karofsky, it really makes it look like he’s using Dave to hurt Kurt. They’ll never convincingly be able to sell Blaine and Dave as a viable longterm relationship with that backstory, so what’s the point?

    If they are trying to top HIMYM and True Blood for the worst written finale they are doing a bang up job. Thanks for the spoilers, MJ. At least I know not to waste my time.

  • sunchick

    Ha, I got my head bit off in the last thread when I wondered if that was the case.

  • Vini Bhatt

    Meh. I believe at least some of those rumours are true. I hope someone writes a tell-all book, like that “unauthorized” Saved by the Bell memoir.

  • Vini Bhatt

    Still, he was kid. Yogi was grown-up bear,
    Boo Boo was baby bear (like Scooby Doo and Scrappy Doo). It’s fucked up either way

  • Jess

    Whoa, that’s a lot of … whoa. Thanks for the heads up, MJ. Always best to know about this sort of thing.

    Deletes season pass. Backs away slowly so as to not startle the crazy people who did this.

  • gogo

    So Sam will be relegated to one scene where he hears the cocky gay football player singing in the shower? I guess he’s not allowed to help with glee club because it might give Rachel and him screentime together, and we just can’t have that, can we?

    Also, what is the point of Hiram and Leroy getting divorced? Woe is me, Rachel. Woe is me.

  • mchalerivera

    Lmao at straight in quotes, you’re a tinhatter? That explains everything.

  • Boo Bear BB

    Nah, I actually buy the girlfriend and all the crazy college stories of him juggling girls less than gracefully. He seems like a dudebro if you look beneath the gel and image, but his image is a mess and this will send a lot of his fans screaming into the woods.

  • Kirsten

    Yikes! Maybe they should change the name of the show from “Glee” to “Glum”.

    That’s a high rate of failure going on there.

  • Sharon

    Am I still drunk from last night?

  • Mia

    Rachel’s dads are divorced basically because Jeff Goldblum isn’t available any more! But it also just piles the trauma on the Loser-dom of Rachel Berry!

    But the Sam of it all is very annoying – after all, he was the one who was actually going back to Lima, and planning to work at McKinley. But, he’s clearly shoved aside because of the shortened season and Rachel returning home (presumably) earlier than would have happened in a 22 episode season. Otherwise, I’m guessing Sam would have had more purpose at the school than now.

  • Axxxel

    Nah, I just think that Chris Colfer has asked for time off because he is supposed to participate in the filming of some british movie…(Noel Coward biopic).

  • gogo

    Yeah, I guess I just don’t know why they suddenly care about showing Hiram OR Leroy. They were only shown a handful of times, so it’s not like Rachel as a character can’t exist without them being shown? It just sounds contrived to give Rachel one more thing to cry about.

    And I agree 100 percent about Sam. As a Sam fan who was very excited at the end of Season 5 to see him walking through the halls and looking into the new computer lab, this is a major letdown. I hated how he was sidelined in New York to showcase Mercedes, and now I feel like it’ll probably be deja vu all over again. We’re in for more contrived Samcedes BS until they magically end up together as endgame. She will sing and get all the focus. He’ll be in the background, as per usual. She will get major focus on her career and stardom. Once in awhile, they’ll show him sitting beside Bieste while she gives the football team a pep talk.

    The fact that everyone and their mom has been in the studio, while Chord’s been in Nashville and now on the river doesn’t give me much hope that Season 6 is looking much better.

  • Axxxel

    The only development I like is that Blaine left Nyada… I never felt he belonged there… despite his efforts and talent.

  • Axxxel

    Blaine should be dating Sebastian off screen. And tell Kurt about this… Karofsky should be a competitor for Sam…

  • Frank

    Um you do know Rachel has done nice things too? You are missing a lot of pieces there. They did all that crap just to sacrifice her whole chracter arc to get her back to Lima for this lame plot.

  • RedMountainRanch

    Life doesn’t always go your way. You hit rock bottom and it defines you. If Rachel picks herself up and tries for Broadway again and makes it and learns from the Hollywood incident and stays true to herself, this season can be redeemed

  • Littleone63

    Sam had all of season 4 and the majority of season 5 to be showcased and he was. Sam has pretty much being the sideline character to any of his friendships or relationships. Quinn-used for popularity Santana-not really sure what that was about Mercedes-writers made it his decision to chase her even though she was with someone else Brittany-supposedly for comic relief although they made them dumber than the characters in “Dumb and Dumber” and not funny at all. Blaine-the subject of a crush while Blaine pinned for Kurt. So pretty much Sam has been sidelined for quite some time and it wasn’t due to Mercedes. I think the only small friendship he had that didn’t involve him being sidelined were the brief moments he had with Artie.

  • Claire

    I’m so happy right now. These spoilers are ridiculously delicious. Absolutely cannot wait to see this.

  • Julie

    Actually it’s probably because Chris ended up being available for the early episodes after all. I suspect it was supposed to be Sam and Rachel leading the Glee Club, but once Kurt was available they shoved him aside so they could reunite Hummelberry.

  • Truffles

    Honestly I cannot remember a single nice thing she ever did for anyone unless it benefited her since season 1. Unless this was plan all along, since season 1, sacrificing her whole character arc to get her back to Lima for this POS plot.

  • Julie

    I think they get along I just don’t think they’re the “bestest friends ever!” some of there fans think they are. They seem like their circle of friends wouldn’t even overlap. Which doesn’t mean they don’t get along just fine on set.

  • gogo

    Sam was never sidelined for Blaine. Sam and Blaine were the most balanced relationship that either of them ever had. I also don’t feel like Sam was sidelined for Brittany, either. Their relationship didn’t get that much focus, and when it did, it was pretty much equal to both of them.

    Throughout Season 4 and the beginning of Season 5, Sam had storylines, focus, etc. Then once he went to NY, he had nothing besides a romantic relationship where he never sang and was constantly being shoved aside while the other party sang and had major storylines revolving around her career. Oh, and he also got 3 scenes of his modeling “career” before he decided he was one and done.

  • Vini Bhatt

    Getting along on the set is sheer necessity because they are the lead pair, and it’s professional courtesy. But there are lots of blinds items and rumours about none of the cast getting along. They may not be plotting to get each other fired, but I don’t think they are “family away from family”, like the cast of “Supernatural” or “Arrow” seem to be.

    I don’t care whether you believe it or not… but that’s a LOT of smoke for there to be no fire.

  • Littleone63

    It seems whenever anything comes down to what is going on with Sam its someone else’s fault and not the writers development of him. Mercedes does not write any of the episodes but she’s the first to be scapegoated for anything that doesn’t work for Sam. Should she also be blamed for whats happening between Kurt and Blaine as well. But at this point seems everyone is taking a backseat to the Rachel and Blaine’s stories in season 6.

  • Littleone63

    Sorry that reply wasn’t for you I didn’t hit the right area. My apologies as you never mentioned her in your reply.

  • Littleone63

    And this is due to the writers not the character they paired him with in NY.

  • Axxxel

    I did like Sam during that dog episode.. his role was beefy and cute at the same time…but that episode was written by co-Glee-star Chris Colfer..

  • gogo

    I don’t understand the “this is due to the writers” mentality. EVERYTHING that happens to a character- good or bad- is due to the writers. Consequently, when a character is paired with someone else who gets all of the storyline, the focus, and the songs, it is also due to the writers writing that particular character.

    These characters don’t exist outside of the writers, so blaming the writers for good or bad is pointless. The writers ARE the characters.

    It makes no sense.

  • sunchick

    Also how does Blaine go from being the toast of NYADA to failing out in the course of one semester? That’s harsh. Drop out, maybe, but fail out? They really farked up on the time jump calculations.

  • gogo

    Yes, I enjoyed him very much during that episode- at least until he did as he was told and gave his dog up, despite the fact that he and the dog had bonded, he had a plan in place as to how to take care of him, was going to hire dog-sitters while he was out, and had trained him.

    But hey, let’s just hand him over to the first people who open their arms, despite the fact that we have no idea who they are and if they have the resources, time, or energy to care for a dog.

    But other than that, Sam was great in that episode. He finally got to say what Sam fans had been screaming for ages.

  • Vini Bhatt

    Chris Colfer has a LOT of side gigs going for a supposed lead of the show. He was promoting his book, he did some episodes of that Betty White show, plus his regular off-season assignments plus this movie. Seems like he’s deliberately keeping busy so they don’t have an excuse to make him spend more time on the set.

  • Littleone63

    So yeah, that is what I said so if his character (Sam) didn’t get more screen time or songs than yes it is the writers who structured those episodes that way. So I’m not really sure what point you were making here other than it seems as though you are agreeing with me.

  • Axxxel

    Maybe Blaine’s parents don’t want to pay for his studies anymore…

  • calikee

    We left them in May, and we pick up in Fall. He basically gets kicked out over summer. Doesn’t make sense at all.

  • mchalerivera

    Lol why are my comments being edited but fat shaming comments being left as is?

  • Axxxel

    including Fox…

  • gogo

    No, my point is that Mercedes is the writers as well. If the writers write Mercedes to have all of the songs, storyline, and focus, then it is MERCEDES who has them. The writers don’t exist in the Glee universe, but in reality, the characters don’t exist without the writers.

    So yes, MERCEDES got the majority of the focus and the VAST majority of the songs when it came to the Samcedes rehash of Season 5. SAM got next to nothing. That is what happened, and there is no way to argue against that. When Sam was NOT with Mercedes in S4 and the beginning of S5, he got focus, storylines of his own, and plenty of songs. Sam fans got used to that, so it was a slap in the face when he was suddenly background again like S2 and S3.

    I know you are an Amber/Mercedes stan, so there is no point in arguing about this. You will see it your way, and I will see it my way.

    My point is that Season 6 doesn’t look any better for Sam (at this point) than the New York arc did. The fact that there is no indication of him singing in the first batch of episodes (everyone else has been in the studio, it seems) and the fact that he is apparently going to be an assistant football coach in a season we know is supposed to be about glee club rivalries don’t give me much hope.

    I’ll wait until we have more than one episode of spoilers to throw in the towel, though, but I’m not nearly as optimistic as I was after the S5 finale.

  • gogo

    It doesn’t make sense, you’re right. None of this makes sense, and the 6 month time frame makes it even less plausible.

    Going from that, we should be in Marley & Co’s senior year, but I guess they all dropped out of school? Is that why they’re not around to rejoin the glee club?

  • Julie

    Maybe that’s the true plot of the season…students have been disappearing and our intrepid heroes must solve the mystery. It’ll be American Horror Story but with music!

  • Axxxel

    Remember Blaine and Sebastian were supposed to have chemistry but Kurt and Sebastian had more interaction… Maybe this is happening… Kurt and Karofsky have more chemistry but it is Blaine and Karofsky who end up interacting… Signed… A delusional fan who cannot digest the Blainofsky paring.

  • Julie

    You’d think he’d just call up his benefactor from last season then though. Although clearly her efforts to “make him a star!” didn’t work.

  • gogo

    LOL Loser Like Me/Freak Show tie-in!

  • Julie

    Well Kurt did end up having more scenes with Sebastian than Blaine did that season. And Karofsky has always had more scenes with Kurt so who knows. Judging by these spoilers the future plots could be anything.

  • Frank

    Off th top of my head She helped Kurt when her felt alone and helped Mercedes when she was sad about Prom, she helped Finn when he didn’t get the football scholarship. She encoruged Kurt to go for it with Adam call him a catch. She gave Kurt that final boost of confidence at the winter show case his audition. Lets not pretend she hasn’t had some good moments as well.

  • Littleone63

    To each his own I am NOT arguing about fictional characters if you are then that’s on you. I thought we were having a conversation. I am no one’s stan and if you are trying to use that terminology to justify your response well it doesn’t apply here. I like the majority of the characters on the show and want them all to have a happy ending to include Sam, Artie, Tina, Santana, Kurt and Mercedes or anyone else who doesn’t seem to be the main focus of season 6 like Rachel and Blaine. So In ending this conversation I guess we will agree to disagree. You have a nice day.

  • gogo

    I’m not even a Klaine fan- I don’t dislike them, I just don’t care. But I can’t wrap my head around any of this. There’s just no point. There are THIRTEEN episodes. Why are you wasting them on starting up brand new storylines, introducing brand new characters, and erasing everything you spent the last half of Season 5 shakily building?

    It just makes no sense as a whole.

  • Axxxel

    Karofsky did it while he was dressed as Kurt… so Kurt got the blame…what am I typing… maybe I should work for Glee. LOL….

  • sunchick

    So they go undercover to solve the crime. 21 Jumpstreet, but with singing!

  • Axxxel

    Maybe they are just referring to the body size of each actor…

  • Truffles

    well I didnt pretend that she didnt do anything good, I just couldnt remember cause of all the selfish things she had done… you know sending people to crack house, exposing other peoples secrets, putting others down… I guess bad outweighs the little good that she has done? peace out Frank ;)

  • Mafs95

    Welp, this season seems like it’s going to suck. I used to love this show. I remembered I was so hyped when a new episode came out. Season 4 was the beginning of the downfall but I still enjoyed it. Season 5 was the real turnoff to me and this one? Ugggh, I just can’t. I’ll listen to the studio versions of the songs. That’s it. The storyline became super irrealist and doesn’t make any sense at all.

  • Axxxel

    Maybe Kurt will be designing clothes for the glee club…

  • Axxxel

    Would have been more fun if Blaine was helping Karofsky to find a soulmate… and the lots of time they spent together during nightlife makes Kurt draw the wrong conclusions.. just like what happened with Blaine and the Kurt- and- Elliott- friendship…

  • Melinda Sachse

    They can’t keep klaine apart

  • Axxxel

    They have to keep Klaine apart (for the moment), so that their reunion at the end of the season 6 will feel even better,,, Just like the movie “When Harry met Sally” (remember Klaine made a reference to that movie in the valentine episode of season 2 ?)…

  • Julie

    I think they have to if these two still can’t stand living with each other for more than a few weeks.

  • http://twitter.com/maxsmom61 CathyMK

    Eh, Puck is fully legal now, he and Shelby should go for it.

  • Rachel Monroe

    I guess we will rule out the comedy of some of her deeds too. Sorry I just do not think she is a bad person. :)

  • Axxxel

    just self centered

  • Spergatory

    This is like some hideous experiment in Dadaist Anti-Narrative. There’s no way to peg this on simple incompetence; this is some straight-up malice aforethought shit. Ryan Murphy hates this show, he hates the characters, and he hates the fans, and he damn well wants you to know it. At this rate, I’m betting six of the last thirteen episodes will just be Ryan Murphy staring hatefully into the camera and flipping the entire world off with both hands.

    It’s beautiful.

  • Vini Bhatt

    Will trading his baby is totally plausible. Maybe it will be spoiler for the next episode.

  • Axxxel

    We all know that Hummelberry represents Ryan Murphy… and Ian Brennan writes for Sue Sylvester… Who is writing Blaine ?

  • Vini Bhatt

    She was clearly trying to get in his pants. I mean, “dump your fiance and move to LA, pretend you are straight” screams cougar hitting up on a wannabe.

  • Vini Bhatt

    Don’t. Put. It. Out. Into the World.

  • Axxxel

    but it is a great idea… not many crime related themes in Glee and Blaine may end up in police academy… after helping to solve a crime at Dalton.

  • Vini Bhatt

    I cannot digest Blainofsky. I can think of million other pairings for both Karofsky and Blaine which would have made more sense than Blainofsky. Blainofsky seems like a blatant to ALL the fans/haters of the show.

  • Vini Bhatt

    Kurt and Blaine hook Dave up Elliot and Sebastian. Klaine fuck off into the sunset together and Elliot/Dave/Sebastian have a threesome on pay-per-view. The End.

  • Axxxel

    LOL…

  • sunchick

    No kidding. Take this in: Kurt rethinks his entire “our love is worth working through the bad shit and I’m not going anywhere” stance that he repeated like ten times in season five, dumps Blaine, Blaine has a downward spiral so hugely traumatic that he fails out of NYADA after winning the praise of the school’s biggest benefactor, moves home, overcomes said traumatic downward spiral, gets a choir master position that heretofore has never existed created just for him at Dalton, takes the position, bumps into his ex fiance’s abuser who he never really liked, decides he’s an okay guy, not only okay, but actually a date-able, dates him, and gets serious enough with him that they have pet names for each other. And this all happens in SIX MONTHS.

    Bwahahahahahaha. I’d have an easier time believing Blaine was really a leprechaun who has to leave Kurt to hunt for his stolen pot of gold.

  • sunchick

    Kurt doesn’t come out of this unscathed either. He basically didn’t mean a single reassuring thing he said to Blaine last season about being a team and working through things together yada yada yada if he dumps him after like two days of cohabitation.

  • http://twitter.com/maxsmom61 CathyMK

    I don’t think Blaine leaving NYADA is as out of character as it seems. Blaine is a caretaker and a leader, but he hasn’t seemed to care about being a star other than when he’s with Kurt. He seemed happiest and most fulfilled during season 4 when he and Sam ran the glee club and the school, and even then he didn’t have solos during competitions the way that Rachel always did. He wants to make art and help people, he enjoys organizing and leading, he’s thought about being a teacher or a doctor. His continuous melt down in NYC last year felt to me like someone who knew he was in the wrong place with the wrong person, but couldn’t admit it to himself. He was a caretaker who suddenly had no one to take care of but Kurt, who is fiercely independent. Now he’s directing the Warblers, which fits his strengths, and in a relationship with someone who wants his care and affection. IF (LOL, crazy, I know) Glee ends up making any sense in the end, they’ll have Blaine realize that Broadway is Kurt’s dream, not his, and have him go back to college for teaching or something else that fits his own needs and strengths.

    Blaine’s also been telling Kurt since mid-season 3 that he’s not getting enough from Kurt to feel secure in the relationship, and Kurt’s been unable to do more than repeat the same words over and over without making real changes that help Blaine feel better in the end. Meanwhile Kurt feels stifled by the amount of attention Blaine wants to give him, other than sex. That doesn’t make either a bad person, but it does make them a bad fit for a relationship. I don’t see that as a maturity issue, but rather a relationship style, so I don’t believe they’d ever actually make it as a couple. Maybe once Blaine has a classroom of students, and he and Kurt have 3 kids, and a dog, the amount of attention Blaine has left over for Kurt will be the right amount, but Kurt would never be able to fulfill Blaine’s need for affection. Although he is affectionate with Rachel and his dad, he just doesn’t seem to actually even like Blaine most of the time.

  • xy

    That unathorized memoir was revealed to be completely fabricated.

  • ShamelessHussy

    Believe me, I’m heartsick and not even sure I can watch this for my beloved Blaine! I’ll probably just watch the performances on YouTube. Not sure if I’ll by much music because without meaning from storytelling, do I need these covers?

  • xy

    Yeah, but it was Blaine the entire season who failed to have any trust in the relationship and actively sabotaged Kurt at points. It felt like Kurt was the only one still trying or believing by the end of S5 and Blaine was just needy, jealous, and clearly unstable.

  • Tim

    Sam needs to take a backseat, he had all of season 4 and a good portion of season 5 to be the star of the show. My favorite character Brittany was basically a prop for him in season 4. Sam can’t be the main focus of every season.

  • ShamelessHussy

    How mean is it that I want EVERYONE’s favorite character and / or ship screwed over so they’ll all be as miserable as me?

  • Vini Bhatt

    Who’s your ship?

  • Vini Bhatt

    So? It’s now being made into a movie…I’m all ready for that juicy drama to come out.

  • doonabae

    Is this that bad? Am I the only person who thinks this is sort of funny in a drak comedy way which is what glee was like in season one?
    Also all of this reminds me of Community season five premiere immediately which I love dearly.

  • xy

    Who could like Blaine tho?

  • gogo

    Please explain how Brittany was a prop for Sam in Season 4. If you said she was a prop for Santana in Season 3, I’d agree, but Brittany got more focus than she ever had before in Season 4. She was one of the actual leads for the first time ever, just like Sam was. I am confused as to how you think she was a prop to anyone that season, considering the amount of focus, storylines, and songs she got?

  • ShamelessHussy

    I agree.

  • sunchick

    I dunno- you’d need someone crazy and bitter enough as that dude who played Screech. You release a tell all like that and you guarantee that no one will hire you outside of maybe chum for Sharknado 3.

    Seriously though, seeing these spoilers now I think even if Darren and Chris kinda sorta didn’t like each other they’d be professional enough to suck it up for another half a season. They’d have to full on loathe each other for it to interfere with the writing to this extent.

    More likely that RM had a bug up his ass about this stupid arts education stuff and somebody somewhere has the bright idea that the ratings dropped because the insta-success made the characters less relatable or something. Combine those two things and you get this depressing hot mess that comes off like a giant middle finger to fans. Wtg!

  • ShamelessHussy

    Not 6 months either. TURBP was in June. It sounds like Glee is picking up in September or so as always.

  • Tim

    They basically failed Brittany and made her even dumber so that Sam could have a girlfriend. She only got focus because she was attached to Sam. She was still a prop for him.

    That’s my opinion as a Brittany fan, just like you have your opinion that Sam was a prop for Mercedes, as a Sam fan. From what I saw, Sam still got lots of screentime in NY with Mercedes, he just didn’t sing much.

  • ShamelessHussy

    I did ship Klaine in S2 and even held on through the wasteland of S3 with no physical contact and Colfer ignoring his partner for the most part.
    I am still interested in both characters though and can’t stand the way Glee has turned fans of each against one another with the ridiculousness of the way they craft stories for the pairing. Klaine is the biggest fan group this lousy show had left. Plus the individual Kurt and Blaine fandoms. Why would they think this is a good idea? Other than that Ryan murphy has an ongoing, never ending obsession with his high school years, football players and he represents closet cases with Karofsky.

  • Sharon

    Who want me to watch new shows about teenage kids. Nice try. No. You don’t know how to handle this. Give me more superheroes or step off.

  • gogo

    Brittany had an entire episode devoted to her downward spiral right off the bat. Then she ran for class president. Then she had a breakup with Santana. Then she had some Sam stuff for two episodes. Then she had more Santana stuff. Then she formed good friendships with Kitty and Marley. Then she got major focus in Shooting Star. Then Heather got pregnant, so she missed a lot. Then she had a whole MIT storyline.

    Season 4 was a great season for Brittany as an individual character. Maybe it wasn’t a great season for Brittana stans, but Brittany herself had far more to do and sang far more than she ever did in any previous season. No doubt that would have carried on into Season 5 if Heather hadn’t left due to the baby.

  • Littleone63

    I agree with you Sam still got plenty of screen time. I think its more about wanting to blame others for the decisions of the writers. Sam along with many others will never get the amount of screen time of say Rachel, Blaine, and Kurt but it wasn’t like the show dropped him in the black hole like they have done with so many other characters. Admitting that he had an enormous amount of screen time and songs in seasons 4 and the beginning of season 5 almost make the point moot because he was in all but one of the final episodes of season 5. Hopefully every returning member will get sufficient screen time and songs for the final 13 episodes even if the first episode doesn’t give much hope to think that it will.

  • gogo

    It doesn’t make the point moot- it accentuates the point. If Sam had stayed background like he was in Season 2 and 3, nobody would have noticed that he literally did next to nothing in NY. But since he had become one of the main characters and had moved into the spot of a lead (on the McKinley side with Blaine and Brittany- at least in S4), it was jarring to see him shoved aside and vocally silenced.

  • gogo

    You would think with 13 episodes, they could plan them out start to finish, but Ryan already admitted he doesn’t know what the end will be now. This should be thrilling.

  • Tim

    Season 4 was a great individual season for Sam fans. I’m sorry but I didn’t want my favorite character failing and eating cereal off the floor. That uptick in screentime that she received was not of quality. I also don’t equate songs with character development and I would rather see Brittany dancing anyway. I wanted to see more about her future goals and not just hanging around high school being dumb with Sam. I don’t even ship Brittana but their scenes in the 100th episode is what I’m looking for in terms of Brittany’s development and maturity. But as a Sam fan I’m sure you see it differently. We’ll agree to disagree :)

  • gogo

    Season 4 was 100% the best individual season for Sam. I just don’t see how you can blame Sam for Brittany failing when that happened in Season 3 while she was dating Santana and, I don’t believe, even spoke to Sam once… They failed her to keep another familiar face and fan favorite around on the McKinley side. That had nothing to do with Sam.

    And I like to see Brittany mature and developed as well. I think the MIT storyline was ridiculous, considering it doesn’t matter what you get on the SAT if you have poor grades (and she had a 0.0 in Season 3). But at least it allegedly proved that she was a secret genius and not just some idiot like she’d been portrayed as since Season 1.

  • Lauren

    Does anybody involved in this? We’re being trolled, but I’m just not sure why. Are they that upset they got cancelled? Don’t punish the few of us still here who care. That’s the wrong target. Why us? Why now?

  • Littleone63

    Is Sam your only focus in Glee? I want to see all the characters find happiness and success in these final 13 episodes but your only concern seems very much tied to Sam and ONLY Sam. We all have favorites and want them to do well, but I want all the characters to end on a good note. With that said I doubt very few fans will come out completely happy and unscathed with the final decisions made by Ryan Murphy and his staff of writers.

  • gogo

    No, but unfortunately besides Sam and Blaine, all the rest of my favorites have been pushed aside (the sophomores, Tina, Quinn, and Santana). So I have to focus on what I still have. And Blaine- well, we all know what’s going on there.

  • Tim

    I don’t blame her failing on Sam, I blame her lack of story progression on her relationship with Sam. She should have been focused on graduating in season 4 and she was reduced to being Sam’s girlfriend so the writers could play up the dumb and dumber schtick that no one wanted to see. That’s my opinion, just like it’s your opinion that Mercedes is to blame for the Sam storylines you didn’t like in season 5. I do hope that Sam gets some individual growth and they stop pairing him up with every living, breathing girl. I think everyone wins in that scenario.

  • gogo

    Well, did you prefer Brittany in Season 3 when she was literally nothing besides Santana’s girlfriend? She barely spoke that entire season, and she certainly had no focus as an individual character. On top of that, she was the epitome of stupid, having a 0.0 GPA and not caring about her status as class president. I already pointed out all the individual focus she had in Season 4, most of which had little to nothing to do with Sam.

  • treetops

    Lol, he sabotaged Kurt because he cooked him delicious meals? Nobody forced him to eat it (and he didn’t, anyway).

    “It felt like Kurt was the only one still trying or believing by the end of S5 and Blaine was just needy, jealous, and clearly unstable.”

    Apparently you haven’t seen the last episode with Shirley MacLane and what Blaine said and did before “American Boy.”

  • Tim

    She was barely even a character in season 3 which meant she had less unsavory moments than she did in season 4. She had lots more screentime in season 4 mostly due to her relationship with Sam but it was very bad for her character. It was a wash, basically. She’s had individual focus as a character in season 2 that was better than what we saw in season 4 tbh. Quality over quantity. But you’re deflecting because I dared to insinuate that her relationship with Sam wasn’t good for her character.

  • http://twitter.com/maxsmom61 CathyMK

    Apparently both Karofsky and Kurt.

  • Christina

    Blaine cooked him fattening meals so Kurt would gain weight. He could have cooked something healthy but no – he wanted Kurt to not feel good about himself either. And Blaine said himself he liked Kurt better when he was lost and insecure. It’s no wonder Kurt broke up wiht him if Blaine was still so whiny and needy and never had any faith in their relationship.

  • Christina

    Kurt told blaine he loved him a million times and blaine still didn’t believe him. There’s only so long you can keep up a relationship if the other person never trusts in you. At some point you just give up.

  • Christina

    Filming for Noel was post-poned until spring 2015 so Chris role on Glee will not be reduced.

  • Christina

    Maybe if Blaine wasn’t always acting like a child and would start having faith in their relationship for once then kurt wouldn’t feel like they’re too young to be engaged. If kurt got tired of always telling blaien how much he loves him and blaine never believing him then I can understand that.

  • http://twitter.com/maxsmom61 CathyMK

    There’s only so long you believe someone who keeps telling you they love you, but who acts like they don’t even like you. Tends to make a person feel needy and insecure.Kurt said all the right things, but his treatment of Blaine backed them up.

  • Christina

    Kurt has supported blaine so much and told him he loves him. It’s not his fault if Blaine has issues and doesn’t believe him. Blaine needs to learn to trust Kurt or this relationship will never work. ALthough with Blaine dating Karofsky now Kurt should not take him back anyway. It’s karofsky after all and he hurt kurt so much. I don’t know how Blaine could ever date him.

  • Christina

    Blaine was needy and insecure long before they ever started having problems. Kurt supported him and told him he loved him even after Blaine cheated on him. Until Blaine can learn to trust Kurt that relationship will not work.

  • Lauren

    Seems more likely the people running the show hate the fans more than the actors have issues. It’s easy to keep actors apart without destroying the entire show and mocking the fans for ever liking any part of it. This takes some special effort of looking into what will make the few people who still care the most angry. I just don’t get the motive. Angry internet comments can’t be worth this. It’s not like it will make anybody watch. Seems like the opposite as people who’ve been around awhile are very tired of Glee doing this sort of thing.

  • Lauren

    After this, they should. Never thought I’d say that, but they’re done. There’s nothing there worth saving now.

  • Robert

    Look you can only tell a person you love them and aren’t going to leave them so many times. If that still wasn’t enough for Blaine he should have gotten therapy for his insecurities or left the relationship. It’s not your partners job to be your parent and hold your hand. Blaine clearly didn’t believe Kurt really loved him and that’s HIS issue not Kurt’s. I mean Kurt agreed to MARRY him and that still wasn’t enough assurance.

  • Lauren

    I do like him, but hose him down and get him away from both. Also Facebook. He needs some help and better writers.

  • Robert

    How can he not know how it ends right? I mean the first thing they should know is where they want all the characters to end up in the final episode and then figure out a good way to get them there. I mean that’s writing 101.

  • Turtle_Island

    It’s hard to work through problems with someone who is clearly mentally ill.

  • Turtle_Island

    All of Chris’ projects happen during the summer. None of those things you mentioned kept him off Glee in any way and all happened during his down time. He’s keeping busy because he knows Glee has only 13 episodes left and he needs to have a career once it’s done. It’s what anyone who is smart would do.

  • Turtle_Island

    At the time they were planning the final season, yes, he was going to probably miss the first two episodes or so. But now he won’t be.

  • Steph

    So long, and thanks for all the fish.

  • treetops

    But “sabotage” involves something done in secret, like when that blonde cheerleader tried to sabotage Marley’s role in Grease – by making her dresses smaller, SECRETLY. Since Kurt was perfectly aware of how fattening those meals were (and refused to eat them), I don’t think it counts as sabotage.

    “Blaine said himself he liked Kurt better when he was lost and insecure”

    I don’t really see it that way. I think it is Blaine who feels horribly insecure. He also misses being Kurt’s hero, and misses feeling needed – some people are like that. And yes, it is a character flaw, but it doesn’t mean he wants Kurt to get hurt again, or be miserable.

    Basically, Blaine needs to realize that his whole life doesn’t have to revolve around his boyfriend, and find validation somewhere else.

  • http://twitter.com/maxsmom61 CathyMK

    I agree, Blaine should have left. They both needed to either go to couples therapy and BOTH work on their issues together, or break up. There are 2 people in a relationship. Problems are due to the dynamic between the 2, rarely because 1 person is inherently evil and unloveable. Just telling someone you love them without changing anything else is meaningless. Blaine didn’t believe Kurt because many of Kurt’s actions didn’t fit his words. Been there, done that, and it can make you feel like you’re crazy. I can’t blame Blaine for being confused.

  • b_james

    Yikes. This sounds like bad fan fiction.

    Plan and simple, they should’ve either never had the kids graduate or follow them all to New York and let them stay there. Come back to McKinley for the finale.

    Please tell me episode two starts with someone waking up and it was all a dream.

  • Olivia

    This whole season summary reads like a cynical fan’s speculation about s6’s content. And then you realise this isn’t a parody written by a person who has watched a show they once loved burn slowly before their eyes, but is in fact the real plot for glee’s triumphant final season! Congratulations Ryan Murphy you have truly outdone yourself this time *applause*

  • Robert

    I think you’re projecting your feelings onto Blaine since he’s never actually stated any of that but even assuming he felt that way he never bothered to TELL Kurt. People can’t fix problems they aren’t aware of. It’s the cheating all over again. Kurt thought things were fine, Blaine felt neglected and instead of telling Kurt he needed more focus he cheated on him. It’s like being mad your spouse missed dinner when you didn’t tell them to be home because you were cooking.

  • Montavilla

    I liked Klaine when they were at Dalton and Blaine was Blaine 1.0. Once the writers decided to change him from the confident, secure-in-his-sexuality upperclassman to an emotionally needy Kurt appendage, it wasn’t so much fun anymore.

  • Garrett Pletcher

    I had such hopes for this final season. I’d actually decided to catch up(I stopped watching during season 3) just to watch the final episodes but now it doesn’t even seem worth it. As a writer, I can’t see how they could betray their own characters this way. Every single spoiler i’ve read for this final season has had characters doing things that they would NEVER do. Glee was this brilliant, special thing and they absolutely destroyed it.

  • Montavilla

    I think Darren will do just fine with his fans. He came into Glee with a goodly following from Starkids.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Watch them pull a “Dallas”, and the entire season will end up just being Rachel’s bad dream. lol

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Unless it’s all just a bad dream. lol

  • Brodie Michael

    Thank you very much for the spoilers

  • Axxxel

    Yeah, and they will throw us back to the moment before Rachel burnt her bridges at Broadway… a bit like the Devil’s Advocate movie.. but then Rachel will burn her bridges anyway…despite the warnings…

  • Axxxel

    Maybe it is some alternate parallell Glee world… ? Like in the science fiction movies.

  • Axxxel

    Rachel and Kurt are a reflection of Ryan Murphy’s character .. but I don’t know about Blaine.

  • Garrett Pletcher

    I wish that was the case!

  • supersonic

    Do not compare Community and Glee. Community is a better show. Their writers know what they’re doing. You know how Season 4 was horrible? They wrote that off as the “gas leak year”. They pretty much admitted it was horrible and that you should forget it. You will never see Glee do anything like that.

    And there’s no way I see the Season 5 premiere of Community when looking at these spoilers.

  • Sharon

    This is clearly the darkest timeline. Will lost an arm. Sue doesn’t like to talk about what happened with that cannon. Darren hasn’t shaved in sixteen years. Years. Britta isn’t even cute anymore. And I think Troy and Abed forgot their own theme song.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if this was what Ryan has planned. Oh, and I loved “Devil’s Advocate”. Al Pacino at his OTT best. lol

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if it IS all a bad dream and that’s how they end the series. lol

  • supersonic

    Stop it with the Community comparisons. Community is a far better show. And the best episode of Glee I’ve ever seen is Community’s “Regional Holiday Music”.

  • Jon Glass

    agreed, this is a mess. don’t want to see Rachel not doing Broadway or TV. This plot just detroyed the whole point of Glee.

  • http://twitter.com/maxsmom61 CathyMK

    I’m not projecting my feelings onto Blaine, I’m objectively observing the difference between the things Kurt says to Blaine and the way he treats Blaine. It’s been a dynamic in their relationship for years, at least back as far as Dance With Somebody. There are real reasons that Blaine is unsure of Kurt’s love. I realize you see it differently, but we’ll have to agree to disagree.

  • Vini Bhatt

    I don’t they hate fans or they’re trying to fuck with them. They just don’t seem to have any idea what the fuck they’re doing. They’re borrowing plots from old movies and series’ without having any ‘endgame’ in mind whatsoever. Ryan Murphy had built the whole series around Rachel succeeding on Broadway and going home to Finn, but Cory dying threw the entire thing in loop. They can’t replace Finn with Sam/anyone else, because it wont be the same.Ergo, randomly floundering around and around till everyone gets tired and puts it out of its misery.

    As far Kurt and Blaine are concerned, EVERYONE and their mother knows Klaine is endgame. It has been since they brought Blaine as Kurt’s best gay until he could date the bad-boy-turned-good-gay Karofsky (or Sam who was supposed to be bi-) and fans loved him better than them. They are just creating drama and tension for the sake of it, because they wanna show that Kurt and Blaine can last through any and all obstacles and still stay together. What has happened is that people are tired of drama… and some (like me) hate BOTH and either think they should stay far far away from each other, because they’ll just keep dragging each other down…. or stay together because they deserve each other.

  • Turtle_Island

    It takes two people to argue, not one. I would find it very frightening for someone to feel they have to stay in a relationship forever just because at one point they felt their problems could all work out. Life doesn’t work that way. And Blaine’s behavior keeps getting more and more bizarre, so I don’t blame Kurt in any way for getting out of that.

    Kurt, at least, broke up with Blaine. He didn’t go out and cheat like Blaine at the first hint of a problem.

  • Vini Bhatt

    Well, Karofsky was supposed to be Kurt’s original love interest. Him or Sam (who was supposed to be bi-) and the only reason they’d brought in Blaine was to help him get his guy (“teach him to be gay”, whatever the heck that means) but the fans loved Darren and Klaine fans raised hell whenever there was any indication they were going to be broken up… which is pretty much why they keep Klaine together, because they don’t want to alienate those fans. Because TPTB know fans’ll keep watching as long as Klaine are together.

    The last place I worked, we used to get spoilers too, and Glee was one of most popular shows we covered, so I’m not really talking outta my ass. You can google old Criss/Colfer interviews if you want (even as recent as the engagement episode).

  • Vini Bhatt

    They have been sucking it up since S3… and if you’re not aware some CrissColfer (RPF) shippers have been hounding their S.O.s. Half the time, they’re wary of being around each other because they don’t want some crazy tin-hatter thinking they’re a couple IRL and attack their partners.

    As far as disillusioned is concerned, well, someone must be… I mean, the rumours alone!!

  • Vini Bhatt

    Exactly. If you’ve read the above thread… Chris was ‘promoting’ his book during summer. He was writing it during season because he wants to concentrate on his writing. He is now doing that Noel Coward biopic by cutting his time with Glee.

  • dreamr23

    Glee fans are so unforgiving. :P Poor Quinn never did lose the “cheater” label, even though all involved parties had moved on and now Karofsky – who tearfully apologized to Kurt – is still being crucified for being a bully, even though he’s now out of high school. In my opinion, nothing he did was *that* bad anyway. And before anyone crucifies me… let me clarify that statement by adding “for a tv show”. lol

    (By comparison, one of the characters on Pretty Little Liars actually did try to kill a character by nearly drowning her and the two began dating soon after and still to this day remain one of the most popular couples on the show. Poor Karofsky only “threatened” Kurt… XD )

    But anyway, back on topic… these spoilers sound so bad. Now I have to watch it. I have to say, though… some of my favorite glee episodes are ones that had spoilers that sounded horrible. Then, when I saw the actual episode, it wasn’t nearly as much of a trainwreck as I had been expecting. Hope that will be the case here.

    Really surprised Rachel would quit so easily, though. I mean, this is Rachel Berry we are talking about. The girl who was so obsessive about being a star that she annoyed everyone in the glee club on a daily basis. She does one show that bombs and she suddenly returns to Ohio with her tail between her legs? Within six months? Really?

    And most of the other stuff seems to be way too much to happen in such a short time jump.

  • https://twitter.com/blackbird_xoxo Rini

    the writers here, as stated, are Ryan Murphy, Ian Brennan, and Brad Falchuk, THE show creators aka Glee Gods/Gurus. I think they smoked a truck of pot before deciding this. I’m sorry but this spoiler is like suicide, worse than throwing the entire season to the trash can.
    I cannot fathom if blaine fans will still be his fans if blaine call karofsky yogi bear?? wth kind of cheap joke is that? it sounds really low even for those writers’ reputation. If the blaine-karofsky spoiler is true, I swear I WILL NOT watch at all until the series finale.
    It hurt my heart so much to see that couple, I’m sorry, if I push myself to watch probably I’d throw a brick to my TV, so NO.
    Moreover, who on earth want to know what will happen to high school Glee club? the show has planted a strong root for fans adoring each character, main characters being Rachel, Kurt, Santana, Blaine, Artie, Brittany, Mercedes, Finn, even Quinn, Sam, etc.. (all originals, mostly). this is the order of numbers of fans based on what I see in social media.
    Also I want to highlight that it seems, after everything don’t work out, a character ends up with the choice of being a teacher. First Mr. Schue (history said it), then Finn, then Rachel. WHY must being a teacher be a last resort when there’s no other option left? Can’t you put an example that being a teacher should not be the last option where all roads are closed?
    At last, please, FANS want to know how each character ends. That’s MAJOR. Wherever they may end, but hopefully in the best way possible. Please remember that, Glee writers. You’re nothing without fans and with these spoilers, you are lowering your already low rating, you will lose fans. Kurt’s fans cannot stand seeing Kurt being sad and put into low disgrace again. Blaine’s fans will want to vomit seeing him kiss karofsky (eewwwhhh), Rachel fans… don’t know what but not satisfied. others, basically the same.
    Ryan said the final season is all about originals, and also that Klaine is eternity, and that Klaine won’t break up.
    But lookie now.. so how are we supposed to trust anything now?
    We shall get back to ol’ X-Files motto: Trust No One.

  • https://twitter.com/blackbird_xoxo Rini

    This! hahahahahahaha. I’d think of that if I’d seen a “blaine” in real life..

  • Victoria

    The only thing that is sad about these spoilers is Rachel’s dad’s getting divorced and the one at home NOT being JEFF GOLDBLUM.

    Otherwise, this looks like a lot of fun. Glee has never disappointed me and I don’t think they will now. This looks like the opportunity for a lot of comedy between Rachel and Sue, especially with Rachel going above Sue’s head. Remember the last time they were together…Rachel yelled at her! I am sure Sue isn’t over it and will take it out on Rachel to DESTROY THE GLEE CLUB.

    We predicted Sam to be Beiste’s asst. so yay for being correct on that one.

    Can’t wait for filming to begin on Wednesday!!!!!! And you know it will be a funny episode too if RIB are writing it. Give it that old S1 dark comedy feel!

  • Victoria

    No auditions yet, I am sure there will be auditions in the 2nd episode.

  • Victoria

    I am so surprised at the amount of people who don’t want to watch it. It hasn’t even been filmed yet! So what if you don’t like the spoilers, maybe it will play out differently on screen. I know this is something that GA would want to see though, I mentioned it to a few people that are not die-hard gleeks and they said they would probably check it out because it sounds different and interesting.

  • Victoria

    Also, thanks again for the spoilers MJ, you’re the best!

  • Turtle_Island

    The Noel movie is filming in March. Glee will be done by then. And he didn’t miss a single episode last season and wrote his book in between filming. The conspiracies don’t line up.

  • ShamelessHussy

    A closeted jock was originally planned to be Kurt’s BF. They hired Chord Overstreet to be the new jock but plans changed. Whether because Jane Lynch spilled the beans and Murphy was upset or because for whatever reason Brett Berk to a dislike to Chord as a gay character, we’ll never know. Bisexual was never mentioned and probably never in the cards as RM has made his feelings about it crystal clear. Whatever happened, Chord was not told when he auditioned that his would be a queer character not did he ever receive a script where Sam was gay.
    The closeted gay jock story was transferred to Karofsky but they did not discuss it with him before he got the script either! At the time of the script writing, RM might not have decided who the winner of the Kurt lottery might be but that changed as many things on Glee do.
    Ryan was present for Darren Criss’ Blaine audition and I think the die was cast. Look back at the directions for some of the scenes in Never Been Kissed. The signaled love interest very strongly. And there was an interview with someone from the music department about Darren/Blaine/Teenage Dream. He said he was in the room when it was filmed and everyone knew it would be a hit. That it was like capturing lightning in a bottle. Setting, costumes, cast, the song, the chemistry between Criss and Colfer. That’s why Klaine was born. Unfortunately, RIB blew it with terrible choices in writing and directing. But to do this now, with 13 remaining episodes and to say FU to your biggest remaining fan bases is madness!

  • Heather

    I don’t even want to see them wind up together anymore after all this. There’s just nothing left worth bothering. I hope the actors all go on to better careers once they’re done here, but there are videos of monkeys throwing poop at each other over on youtube that are more worth my time than this show is now.

  • Heather

    Started with the pilot. Never thought I’d quit before the end, but this sounds unwatchable and makes me regret ever spending money on concert tickets and music. I don’t know why they want to destroy the characters on the way out with a season of crack fic from the Glee Kink meme, but as many have said above, nobody’s making me watch. So I’m going to pretend this never happened and move on.

    Thanks, MJ. It would have been far worse to get excited by the season and then see this show up on my tv screen.

  • Heather

    Cheap. Stupid. Desperate. At least we know they don’t care about the fans anymore and just want people to talk about them even if it’s about how horrible they are.

  • aurawtf

    This went wrong.

  • Ann

    I read this a few times and no. Is this supposed to make me want to see season 6? No. I can pass.

  • notsoseriouslyserious

    It’s like watching Queer As Folk all over again. Everyone else gets the happy ending except Brian and Justin, and now it’s the same for Kurt and Blaine on Glee. Fuck the writers. They haven’t written a good storyline for Klaine or ANYONE since season 3. I’ll be watching the new season, to see how much of a trainwreck they make it.

  • jay

    So much for watching season 6. Nope not happining. I’m done.

  • http://twitter.com/maxsmom61 CathyMK

    In my opinion, nothing he did was *that* bad anyway. And before anyone crucifies me… let me clarify that statement by adding “for a tv show”. lol

    Exactly. I hesitate to say it out loud, but this is nothing compared to the abomination that Nip/Tuck became. I’ve emotionally detached from the show and characters enough that I can still enjoy the outrageousness and the performances. In my mind, the story of the characters I loved ended somewhere around season 3 or 4, depending on my mood. Ryan Murphy’s version of what happens to these characters reads like just one more fan fiction, so I’ll choose the version I prefer, as I have with any other series with a stupid ending.

  • garlandk77

    Lima is certainly an odd place, hiring 19-year-old kids to be choir directors and high school coaches. In the real world, my nephew has a Masters Degree in Physical Education and it took him 4 years to find a job as an assistant high school coach.

  • Sharon

    I bet he’s a great kid and has never even slightly menaced anybody he’s supposed to teach, love or otherwise be allowed near.

  • britt29321

    I mean, he feels tied to Karofsky. He’s said in interviews how much it meant to him when fans who had been suicidal or bullied when they came out contacted him and told him how connected they’d felt to him or how he helped them. Maybe he’s happy to come back and let them see that Karofsky’s happy, “out and proud” in college, all that.

    I mean, he’s done a few indie movies, had (or has) a role on Switched at Birth… yeah, he’s not A-list famous but it’s not like a few more episodes will get him there, either.

  • britt29321

    I don’t know about the whole Kurt thing. I mean, he dumps Blaine, after all, and it’s canon that Blaine is a wreck without Kurt because “One Twu Wuv” whatever whatever, and the writers seem to prefer letting Blaine be upset than Kurt, since, you know, we see Kurt mourn his brother for like half an episode. But then that’s going to make Karofsky look like a manipulative jerk, and they love Max Adler… there’s two ways to spin it, really–Kurt and Karofsky both hurting poor little Blaine, or Blaine running to the person who would hurt Kurt the most, like how Finn ran back to Quinn after Rachel cheated on him and hurt him. Frankly I feel bad for both of them–Blaine, all jokes aside, probably needs help that he never got. No one can cling that tightly to everyone they know, hurt them, and then beat themselves up like Blaine did for most of season 4 without having crap self-esteem, and Kurt–Kurt has no idea how to deal with someone with extremes like Blaine, but he really does love him. (That said, I don’t hold out hope there will be an actual storyline involving psychological help of any kind–I’m sure it’s no coincidence that Kurt’s seeming apathy came about the same time Chris became so clearly over Glee, and Blaine starting getting all kinds of angsty story lines after Big Brother, when it became clear that a gif of Blaine/Darren’s sad face gets enough notes on Tumblr to choke a horse.)

    As far as the Rachel comparison, I never found Rachel at all sympathetic–she and Finn weren’t together when Finn slept with Santana and frankly if he’d opted to sleep with every Glee girl except Rachel, all the Cheerios, and the whole football team it was none of Rachel’s business. Her deliberately cheating on him with Puck of all people was the crappiest thing she could have done to him and he’d have been an idiot not to dump her. I wasn’t always Finn’s biggest fan, but in that instance I was firmly on his side. I think this season I’m going to be Team Trent Warbler.

  • britt29321

    See–Naya Riviera pitching such a fit/causing Lea to pitch such a fit Ryan basically fired her, if the rumor mill is true. At first I thought she was just being a bit of a pill post-breakup (understandable! Breakups suck, and if someone is annoying you you’re going to yell at them), but now I’m beginning to see what she did. Hat’s off, Naya.

  • britt29321

    When Kurt ran into Dave at a gay bar, Dave informs him, “They like me here–they call me Bear Cub,” which is obviously a reference to big tough gay men–bears. Kurt jokes, “Oh, because you look like Yogi?” and they laugh. Then I think at some point Sebastian, who knows Dave from the bar, calls him “Bear Cub” so it must just be a play off that.

  • britt29321

    They’ve said before they’re the nerds on set–they have a lot books/comic books in common (both huge Disney and Harry Potter fans, I know.) They strike me as the kind of work friends who’ll still keep in touch on birthdays, Christmas, weddings, whatever. They used to hang out a lot, actually, Tweet each other, and all that, but then fans decided that meant they were super in love, and their SO’s get all kinds of hate. On the one hand, that’s enough to make them keep their friendship low-profile, but it also seems like the kind of thing that can turn a solid but new into an acquaintanceship, too.

  • britt29321

    No. Will actually went to school to be an accountant, realized he didn’t want to do it, and got a teaching certificate. And that happens. My best friend went to college to be a microbiologist in a research lab and soon after was diagnosed with an autoimmune disorder, which means that she’s limited in the lab work she can do. So she went back to school for a year and is now a certified teacher. However, since her degree was in biology and chemistry, she can only teach in the life sciences (or earth sciences, like geology, but that’s because my state has odd standards.) So if Will had done that, he’d only be certified to teach at below a high school level (if he actually did a two year general education program) or math classes. I’m basing this off my state, now, not Ohio, but Ohio’s public school system typically actually outranks my state by public education standards.

  • britt29321

    Well, Carmen DID cut a girl who missed ONE NOTE in her FIRST CLASS in the first episode of season 4. The woman is not to be trifled with.

  • britt29321

    I agree, to an extent. I think what Karofsky did was terrible. But… I can’t imagine hating myself as much as he did, as established by canon. I did and said terrible things at my lowest, too. And I’ve had terrible things done to me. I’ve sought and been given forgiveness, and I’ve been sought out for and given forgiveness. I like Dave, honestly. Once he admitted to someone (Santana) that he was gay and the world didn’t end, once he didn’t do what all those people wanted to do and hurt Kurt when they were Prom King and Prom “Queen,” he moved on and started getting his life together, and then it all crashed around him.

    As for Rachel–she’s never been told “No” and had it stick for more than a few episodes. Once she realized annoying the heck out of TV producers and/or Broadway producers wouldn’t work, I can see her running back to where she was the golden child.

  • Vini Bhatt

    Exactly. It seems like half the reason they don’t get along is because they don’t want their SO’s in the line of fire.

    But I don’t think that could be the only reason… I mean, even Jensen and Jared (the guys from SPN)’s wives got a LOT of shit when they first got married (esp. Jensen’s because she was not a part of SPN family) but that still hasn’t stopped them from putting up a united front. Now even the hardcore tin-hatters are grudgingly accepting that they are going nowhere.

  • Kariann Hart

    The divorce rate for this age group is approximately 75%. It won’t last.

  • Darcy Evans

    He is coaching the Warblers – that has nothing to do with dating. He even had a song with the Warblers in the episode.

  • Darcy Evans

    Maybe Blaine and Karofsky are pretending to date to help Kurt move on. Those lovey covey nicknames are such a joke I want to believe it really isn’t real.

  • Indy

    Just no. Best case this never airs.

  • wsho

    Is that any better though? I hate the idea of Blaine/Karofsky being in an actual relationship but I also don’t want to think that Blaine would try and deceive Kurt by pretending to date his former bully. The nicknames definitely make me think there is more to it than there appears but I don’t know what that is, or even what i’d prefer it to be. One thing for certain though is that with those terrible nicknames the show isn’t even going to pretend to treat them like a real and serious couple.

  • WhuWhu

    I feel a bit sick and a lot like I just shouldn’t watch.

  • WhuWhu

    The giant wall of text isn’t wrong, but it’s also a pretty good sign we’re a few inches from even the most determined fans rage quitting.

  • TLKC

    Klaine may be the end game but Blaine and Karofsky as Yogi Bear and Boo Boo is one heck of a detour. If this is the rival that Kurt has got to overcome to win Blaine, then I question whether the challenge is a worthy one. How satisfactory an ending will this make?

  • thelovelyjenna

    So, GLEE is telling it’s audience members that no matter how hard you try you’ll always end up back in high school?

  • awkwardMEOW

    The creators are absolute idiots for not making the cast freshmen season 1. This is NO excuse for the sophomore stupidity. They would have bought themselves an entire solid season and avoided the stupid “2 years = 1 year IRL” thing from season 4-5.

  • awkwardMEOW

    And I have zero respect for Blaine. You don’t go from being engaged to dating the guy who tried to kill your ex fiance. What a pathetic storyline. I don’t care if Dave changed. He’s off limits to Blaine. Geez.

  • britt29321

    I see where you’re going with the Jared/Jensen comparison (I wasn’t in fandom at the time, so I don’t know firsthand, but I do know that Gen won’t do convention panels even when she’s there because of the hate she gets from fans) but the thing is that J and J were like 4 or 5 seasons into a show where they were essentially the only main characters when Jared got married, whereas the rumors started about Darren and Chris as soon as Darren joined the ensemble cast. Also, J and J were a lot closer–roommates, best friends, “family away from family,” and Darren and Chris were two guys with a lot in common who became fast friends. One is a lot easier to hide from the public, or at least downplay to the hardcore stans, you know what I mean?

  • https://twitter.com/blackbird_xoxo Rini

    yes, I mean, how pathetic would that be? in real life, there should be hundreds of better options in USA let alone Ohio – even NY, for goodness sake!

  • https://twitter.com/blackbird_xoxo Rini

    Kurt doesn’t leave college – at least the writers are still sober enough for this side of story. Maybe at least Chris gives an input about this.

  • https://twitter.com/blackbird_xoxo Rini

    Kurt’s history of ignoring and being angry at Blaine? in which episode? He went to NY after Blaine’s words of wisdom, he listened to Blaine after the big cheating in season 4.
    It’s obvious that Blaine is the one making promises, hello? The grand proposal in season 5 episode 1? And he can’t keep that now. Kurt was angry at Blaine because Blaine purposefully neglected him, acting weird in “Tested”, and pushing himself in Kurt’s classes. Blaine was also the one who wanted to move out of the NY apartment and then accused Kurt for being the one who wanted him to move (what a sarcastic story that is).

  • https://twitter.com/blackbird_xoxo Rini

    I see your point. That may be true. Naya is doing fine just now with that new movie – At the Devil’s Door.

  • https://twitter.com/blackbird_xoxo Rini

    AHS is much better. But it’s so sexually heavy that I really can’t imagine a role for both of them. Maybe for Chris but then he usually doesn’t like sexual roles. I’m not sure I want to see Lea in AHS. at least pls don’t make her sing there.
    Adam Levine also didn’t sing. I know maybe Chris can play a psychopath or a ghost in AHS, or a guy who wears lady’s clothes – he would totally look so beautiful and they could make him look eerie, too. I wouldn’t miss that!

  • https://twitter.com/blackbird_xoxo Rini

    beloved. haha.

  • https://twitter.com/blackbird_xoxo Rini

    blaine stans would do anything to turn the tables around and sue Kurt instead.
    I would totally laugh at them if this Karofsky plot is real. I mean, you would root for them? really?

  • https://twitter.com/blackbird_xoxo Rini

    in other words, “once the writers decided to put Blaine/Darren into one of the main cast and give them major story lines.” He then started to look awful and whiny no matter story lines he’s put into.

  • https://twitter.com/blackbird_xoxo Rini

    totally true. I can’t even stand listening to Glee songs right now. they all remind me of the good times that will soon go bad.

  • https://twitter.com/blackbird_xoxo Rini

    RIght. The most I’d do is maybe download or copy the episodes and never watch them until series finale.

  • https://twitter.com/blackbird_xoxo Rini

    they smoked trucks of pot prior to signing the script.

  • NotIntoIt

    I really don’t see how everyone is so sympathetic with Kurt. He’s one of my favorites, but let’s face it, Kurt has become kind of an asshole. He has been 100% all about himself since he left Lima and he hasn’t given one crap about Blaine. How is that after he breaks up with Blaine ( after accepting his proposal I might add ) and upsets him so much that he gets kicked out of college and has to go home, that Kurt is STILL the VICTIM? Blaine cheated, but Kurt ignored him.

    I hate the idea of Blaine and Karofsky together, but if it means Blaine finally stops chasing after Kurt like a puppy, then I’ll be happy. That being said, I’m 95% positive this is all a plot to get them back together in the end. Adler has five episodes. Sounds like enough time for their to be a lot of back and forth before Blaine chooses Kurt and they breakup. They need one of the couples to end up together and it’s going to be Klaine. That’s just fact.

    Also, stop with the sexual assault argument. It’s stupid. Blaine didn’t force himself on Kurt, he tried to convince him that he was ready to go all the way. All he did was kiss him. Was it a jerk move? Yes. But not sexual assault. They were dating. And it’s pretty hard to rape someone from the bottom. Just saying.

  • John

    Dave is only in the first four episodes. Max Adler has confirmed this.

  • Robert

    You’re entitled to your opinion, but the last paragraph is all kinds of offensive. Kissing someone when they say no IS sexual assault and you’re doing a disservice to victims by denying that. Also where you are or how your positioned has no baring on your ability to rape someone and it’s disgusting to suggest it. Just because you want to defend a character is no reason to attack victims and perpetuate myths about sexual assault.

  • Robert

    I think that’s all they have written so far so he could certainly pop up in a few more if they wanted.

  • Nicolás

    Please someone tell me this doesn’t have a reliable source and it’s fake? Please?

  • Cathy0001

    or they could have decided 2 years=1 year IRL back in season 1.

  • Cathy0001

    and whatever happened to that rich old lady who was his patron? What was the point to that character?

  • Cathy0001

    No, they wrote awful, whiny stories for him. Suddenly making him younger than Kurt and quitting Dalton for no good reason? Couldn’t “professional” writers think of a reason for Blaine to be at McKinley other than “I love you so much!”

  • Cathy0001

    which is why they ditched last year’s New Directions for a whole new batch. I’m better the new ones come cheaper.

  • Cathy0001

    All of that happens in ONE episode?

  • Montavilla

    No. It was really when the writers decided to change Blaine’s character radically in order to put Blaine in McKinley and keep him there as long as possible. I was a fan of Darren Criss before he ever got cast on Glee, so I didn’t mind at all that he got a major role. It’s just that it was a different role than the one he started with.

    Blaine Anderson 1.0 wasn’t whiny and he would never have given up his place at a superior school just because Kurt wanted him hanging around. And he also wouldn’t have done that because he was older than Kurt, and if Kurt was a senior, Blaine would be a graduate (and his cool college boyfriend).

    They had some options when they decided to make Darren a major cast member. They could have retconned Kurt instead, and kept the Klaine relationship status intact. They could have had Blaine graduate and attend a local college (or take a gap year). They could used Klaine to explore the life of a gay teen in a small Ohio town, which I think would have been very interesting.

    But they took the WTF option instead, changing the very core of the character into something else — which was neither fun, nor cool, nor empowering for fans.

  • Raelee

    So many reasons why I won’t be a returning viewer this season. It’s actually kind of sad because I was always sticking up for Glee and giving it the benefit of the doubt when it was, at best, only an okay show. It’s come to a point where I wish it would just get canceled because I don’t even want to see it at all. Like, I didn’t think anything could top How I Met Your Mother’s horrible demise but I guess I’m about to be proved wrong.

  • Turtle_Island

    I’m so disgusted that Blaine can’t tell Kurt himself. Considering the history between Kurt and Karofsky, and if Blaine has any shred of positive feelings toward Kurt and their own history, this is not something you tell him in this way. It’s kind of amazing how these spoilers keep getting worse with more information.

  • Kariann Hart

    Blaine and Karofsky are a couple. They are dating
    This is just so, so wrong. I would rather see a brand new partner for Blaine.

  • Kariann Hart

    Yep, that’s what I said. They are much too young to get married.

  • SThompson

    Give me some Brittany/Santana crumbs, please.

  • Fae206

    Wow, I have never absolutely hated someone as much as I hate you (and I’m a pretty nice/giving person). All your spoilers seem false and at first, I thought okay needy girl needs attention so that she can either market herself on job applications or be talked about on the internet.

    No, you are an absolute ABSOLUTE joke, you keep changing your facts around to match what other people are saying, don’t actually talk about HOW you know this information, but use a phony ‘don’t shoot the messenger’ line to give yourself self importance. Do you know why else I think you’re as much as a lying, self-invested, diva as Rachel Barbra Berry, you keep BOLDING that you are to get credit for these spoilers and that you want your blog to have recognition.

    As someone who also writes and loves people complimenting their work and holding it with importance, I understand the desire to have as many people read any of your work as possible. Trust me, I pulled some half-truths myself when writing for the online Examiner. However, with the hundreds of people involved with Glee and the dozens who have access to details of this kind, did you really believe that you’d be the only source to have them? I mean, okay, share the spoilers and take the recognition you want but you can’t OWN the spoilers because they’re not truly your property. You say that if we talk about ANYTHING you’ve said we have to credit you, honey, if these things were true then there’d be other leaks.

    Stop giving yourself this much importance, whereas there are people who love you, on Tumblr you are being treated as a COMPLETE joke and with people making #fuck MJ #fuck MJs Big Blog and #lol MJs Big Blog tags. I mean, do you really want to put yourself in the crossfire this badly.

    Good luck with your life, but having taken this journey myself I know that if you don’t escape soon enough it’ll self-destruct on you. Hope you can make it through when that happens.

  • http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ mjsbigblog

    Trust me, I pulled some half-truths myself when writing for the online Examiner.

    This pretty much tells me everything I need to know. lol BYE.

    Having said that…you know that we’re talking about a TV show. right? This is not life or death. As one of Glee’s great co-stars, Adam Lambert, once said, “It’s not that deep.”

    Honestly maybe you need to shut your computer off and take a long walk.

    I mean, do you really want to put yourself in the crossfire this badly

    .

    Do you think I care what a bunch of over-invested Glee fans think of me and my writing? Honey, I’ve been blogging American Idol since 2005. I’ve seen it all. I suggest you step back.

    PS: If my spoilers have sunk your ship for the time being (and I’m pretty sure I know which corner of the Glee universe you come from) #sorry #notsorry. How’s that for a hashtag?

    Oh…and another hashtag is #mjsgleespoilers I suggest you blacklist it.

  • Fae206

    I am so overwhelmed by how much you didn’t address the point. Yes, I am upset about the ship that I stand for being mistreated in such a manner, but that has nothing to do with my dislike of your lack of professional journalism skills or accuracy when it comes to handling these types of things.

    Yes, I did used to work for Examiner where I was literally paid nothing, but I have also taken on freelance gigs here and there AS a professional writer, as well as learning about how to apply research, interviews, and criticism with evidence as part of getting my Bachelors degree in English Literature from a small school that matches my pitiful intelligence, University of California at Berkeley.

    The truth is, I am a nice person and my charity, hours (180+ over a year) of volunteer work, political stands, and just general kindness does allow me to say this. It’s beside the point, but this year alone I have donated over $120 to different charities as well as helped mentor some girls learning english.

    As you say, there have been other people who have confirmed ‘some’ of your spoilers, now I could be rude and ask whether those were the ones that you had made up or the ones that you had changed after the event, but let’s just say that you’re right. You have just ACKNOWLEDGED that other people have access to this kind of information, but you attack me and others who have actually come at you not so much on the terms of anything even remotely professional, but on personal grounds. It really is a poor writer who makes something topical into a battle of insults.

    You also just insulted Glee fans and yet you claim to represent them, not only did you just say that I was becoming too involved, although I have ALWAYS noted anything I have seen or heard or discovered online that other people haven’t known about as rumors and speculation that hasn’t been proven. Then you tell me that you don’t care about what a bunch of Glee fans think. Can we kind of…put the two points together. You’re saying in no short terms that you don’t care about Glee fans because they are too involved and yet you continue to pride yourself on Glee enough to require a credit detail under every line so that other Glee fans see it?

    I mean, I’m not telling you that you’re completely false, but you actually inspire me to live the life I want to because with the kind of professionalism that I personally take towards my work as well as my knowledge of how to introduce evidence in to make my case, I know that I could become a famous novelist if I’m competing against this kind of thing.

    Also please note, that I never said anything about a particular ship and have given you a way as a professional, as someone who cares more than on a level of public acknowledgment and personal views, to actually structure a debate about this.

    You can have as many turns as you want, but unless you’re going to use some concrete evidence to prove yourself rather than relying on petty threats and trying to undermine my character, I will stand firm by my original opinion.

  • Mia

    Wow! Just, wow! Go and be ‘nice’ somewhere else, please, I beg you!!!!! Your posts are sort of hilarious in a horrifying way – I’m pretty sure you can’t possibly realise what a d-bag you’re coming across as, otherwise you’d have stopped 7 or 8 paragraphs ago.

    MJ has spoilers – she’s not going to reveal her sources so you can have ‘concrete’ evidence. Just let it go! ;)

  • http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ mjsbigblog

    You’re saying in no short terms that you don’t care about Glee fans

    This is where your pricey education (Berklee? Really?) has failed you. Basic reading comprehension skills, please. I never said that I don’t care about Glee fans. What I said is that I don’t care what OVERINVESTED fans think. Note I didn’t say INVESTED. I used the adjective (you know what that is, right?) OVERINVESTED to tease out those fans who take this shit way too damn seriously.

    Honestly, you hate me more than anyone you know over some frigging Glee spoilers? REALLY? You need to step back and take stock of your life. Your priorities are out of wack.

    Also please note, that I never said anything about a particular ship and have given you a way as a professional, as someone who cares more than on a level of public acknowledgment and personal views, to actually structure a debate about this.

    Except that you are from that ship. It’s logical to presume the super angry people are the ones who got the worst news about their ship. And to be honest, most of the a-holes I’ve encountered are from that corner of the universe. So, completely logical and noteworthy to mention it.

    than relying on petty threats and trying to undermine my character,

    Pot. Kettle.

    I will stand firm by my original opinion.

    Knock yourself out. And in the meantime, I suggest you blacklist the hashtag #mjsgleespoilers/

  • Fae206

    Oh, fun, I get to actually open up a word document to interact with you. I feel special

    The reason why it made LOGICAL (nothing about comprehension because human intelligence goes from comprehension to theoretics to hypothesis to conclusion in a turn of logical moves) sense was because you kept insisting that you…or wait your contact that you are the messenger for I believe the case is (how do you even know that they are being honest. You are admitting to presenting second hand information from a less than credited source) are giving this information to Glee fans.

    You are making sure to present them information that (gasp) they would not know yet, you note to have a blog which is the source of user traffic and yet you can’t separate the fact that other people are intelligent and opinionated because if they do disagree with you, instead of you providing us with significant reason to change our minds on you, you insult us. You could have stood behind your points more in your original reply, instead you cast a judgment about me and I wonder what part of professional blogging does that.

    Outside of a political (social economic) sense where human lives are infected, yes I do hate you because you are tearing down what being an accurate journalist/blogger is, you have created a biased blog that has already encountered issues where it has had to have been ‘corrected’ during the time of something being filmed, and yet address those who disagree with you on a personal basis rather than a professional one. You have to understand that if you are so centered on the web, lots of people will disagree with you. In fact, I didn’t hate you until I realized just how much you had attacked other people before me and they weren’t even attempting to bait you.

    I am angry about what is happening to Klaine, yes, you can’t really sue me for that, but it wouldn’t have meant that if you had done the same thing with spoilers about Sam/Chord and Rachel/Lea that I wouldn’t have been angry about how you are presenting yourself in terms of social culture and interacting with (or attacking) those who have a different opinion on things. I would have still been angry, but I wouldn’t have taken action. There’s a very significant difference there.

    I can say that I am relying on undermining your character because I am not the one who has created something that seems to take on professional (or at least sub-standard) merit. I could come at you with a trunk of rotting fruit and hurl it at you whilst you’re on a soap box stand, my presence on this blog isn’t given as much importance as yours has and if you want to be a professional you have to learn how to stand by your work as a professional. I can’t understand how you don’t see that the roles we both have are extremely different here.

    Also, did someone actually say that or is that another user post that you are factoring in? It isn’t really about officially naming your sources, you have to at least lead in with where you are getting these or what form, had you said, someone from the crew told me, or from a contact I have who was on set, these small things build up a sense of credibility. Yours didn’t have that. You can’t attack me, a reader of your blog, for your credibility being extremely lacking.

  • Fae206

    Wow, it’s like I’m looking into a mirror. Surely someone who calls someone else a d-bag much be one too. I’d also like to know your involvement with the set and whether you also know these spoilers or whether you are just in suspended belief with all this. If you are a friend who knows for sure, are you sure she isn’t lying, if you’re the person who told her these spoilers then why not do something on your own.

    I’d really love to learn how you can make that claim and what the source for your own claim is.

  • Artemis

    i completely agree with you, and let’s not forget how Kurt dated Adam and the time he hook up with that Santa, everybody call Blaine a cheater when most of glee club has cheated at least once but it’s only Blaine that they see, and about karofsky lets not forget that it was Kurt who forgave him, and HE was the one who went to him. and because karofsky made some mistakes this doesn’t mean he’s a bad person for all of his life. the problem is that fans are so biased that they forget this happens all the time in real life too but it’s easier to judge when you stand on the sideline and just watch. i actually root for Blaine/Dave (cause let’s face it Klaine is the end game) but it’s fun to see Kurt going after Blaine for a change.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Missed this post earlier. I’ll just say that all of the writers’ plot twists for this upcoming season are pretty repulsive to me and guarantee that I won’t be watching. lol

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Wow. And I thought Claymates were bad. lol

  • Mia

    I don’t know MJ, I don’t know anyone on set. I’ve simply watched Glee for 6 years, and have seen various people over that time who’ve been spoiler sources – of varying degrees of accuracy – over that time. MJ’s spoilers are as accurate as they can be – for Glee, the show that changes details of scenes as late as the day of filming.

    It’s merely the fact that there are still 4-5 months before the episodes are aired that’s allowing you to be as vitriolic as this, without people being able to say ‘look, the spoilers were correct’. Otherwise MJ’s spoilers would have been proven within weeks of her issuing them, had the show started this month, as in previous years.

    The ‘no you are one too’ comeback was a real zinger though – kudos! Honestly, it’s hilarious how seriously you’re taking this – go outside, take a few deep, cleansing breaths, and maybe find another show to watch over for the next few months -Gotham’s supposed to be very good, and starts tonight, I think! You might want to do that, rather than lashing out at people who are providing spoilers – you can believe them or not, that’s your prerogative but seriously, abusing the sources isn’t nice, no matter how highly you rate your own personality/behaviour/moral code/whatever! Give yourself a break from the Glee fandom, it’s clearly not making you happy. Just leave people who’s jobs are about providing filming details of US TV shows alone for a little while, until you can interact with them civilly.

  • http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ mjsbigblog

    Wow.

    Again. This is only a TV show we’re talking about here. We’re not curing cancer, ending world hunger, or saving the world.

    So, I’m basically going to let you be with a “have a nice life.” And like I said, if you’re having a hard time, I hope you feel better soon.

    If you want a “war” you’re going to have to find it elsewhere.

  • wordnerdarchie

    Here’s my 2 cents… I dislike the show and would love to see it leave and some other one come on in its place. The characters are just that… characters. The actors are not the characters they play. Chill, people.

  • we’re not a couple

    Well the speed dating spoiler is very disappointing. Apparently Blaine has no problems moving on.

  • NF

    This season sounds like it’s going to fall flat. The Kurt/Blaine saga seems like it’ll have a very obvious conclusion. Returning to their homes is nice, but I’m sure it won’t end like that. They’ll bounce back.

    In the end, there’s no real character development. Yes they will, but honestly it’ll be shallow. Maybe some humility or whatever, but they’ll still be the same people. It’s just a sub plot that will cycle back at the season’s end.

  • edog

    Although I do not agree with what the writers have written for the show,I do agree that it will put a little pep to the show,but at the end of the day, they should let Kurt and Blaine should be together in the end. I hope that Blaine and Kurt do get together so that it would make the story make sense because they brought Blaine in to be with Kurt.

  • http://kstreet607.com/ Geminess67

    I’ll take a wait and see position but I must admit this sounds like something out of some twisted, upside down world fantasy.