Adam Lambert Planning His First Tour for Spring 2010

Yes! Santa Barbara Bowl here he comes!!! Hoping, wishin’, prayin’…

I hope Adam tours Canada here because we love him!

The idea of Adam planning something “visually dynamic,” “more interactive feeling,” and “more intimate” makes me very excited and just a little nervous . . . which is how I often feel about him before he performs. Good God, what next?

I CAN HARDLY WAIT.

i plan on attending all shows in the southeast.
Im sofa king stoaked for this!!!!

Already told Mr. Kittensmittens that in lieu of a big Christmas present I want good seats at a second Adam concert (the first concert is a given). Hope the settings aren’t so intimate that there aren’t enough tickets for all his devoted fans.

I posed these questions in another thread. What are your predictions for how the show will go?

How many songs will they learn? Will there be some covers?

Will it be a static set list (the same every night) or will it be a dynamic set list (with changing songs and order)?

Will the banter be scripted or will it be off the cuff?

Will the attire/costumes be the same every night or will it change?

Will it be choreographed so that you know approximately where he will be and what he will be doing for each song?

Hope the settings aren’t so intimate that there aren’t enough tickets for all his devoted fans.

That was my very first worry when I read this……

I can’t wait Adam tour to Chicago!!!

aahhhhh…. Killer photos. The photographer should be hired for Adam’s next album cover.

Hope the settings aren’t so intimate that there aren’t enough tickets for all his devoted fans.

I pretty much feel he could almost fill up an arena with all of us!

I love this photoshoot. It’s so hot and lulzy.

Tour, yay!!

That first picture with the motorcycle.. well, it looks like a big ol steel penis. I sort of glanced at first.. but yeah.

And his tour sounds exactly like what Lady GaGa is trying to do. So.. not different.

I can’t wait for this tour. It’s going to create a lot of buzz. What will he do. What will he wear. What will he sing? Well he do something interesting….intriguing……? I certainly hope so.

Very excited! I didn’t go to any Idol concerts, but I will definitely try to get to a solo show.

So Adam thinks he could fill arenas, but is choosing to do more intimate shows? Uh, yeah, right. Either he’s not paying attention to current ticket sales, or he’s buying in to his own hype. Probably both. He does not have the album sales to justify a headlining arena tour. Maybe he figures that half of each arena will be filled with his ego.

Smaller venues = harder to get tickets, will be burning the midnight oil ready to pounce as soon as sales are announced. Now I just have to get somebody to go with, my husband likes Adam but he is a little skeered that he might do something too “racy”…

And his tour sounds exactly like Lady GaGa is trying to do. So.. not different.

Really? I don’t know much about Gaga’s tours, but I hadn’t heard of the interactive component of it?

This totally makes sense for him! Many artists are doing the smaller venues which I think is great. I have never really been that keen on arena shows. Plus I think it helps keep ticket prices down and with the economy the way that iti is, that is a good thing. Probably won’t be seeing him but I wish him luck with a good tour!

Where in that quote does Adam say he thinks he can fill arenas?

I can’t wait Adam tour to Chicago!!!

Ditto this! I was just sitting here worrying that because Chicago is so damn slow at spinning his music that we’d be low on his management’s priority for booking a show. But, then I remembered how well the Idol tour did here (of course, he wasn’t the only one on tour, but, based on the screaming, he was certainly one of the favs) and that in an interview Adam named Chicago as one of his favorite places to visit (along with Germany). I’ll just keep my glass half full and eagerly await ticket sales for an intimate venue in the area!

a bit dissapointed about not being a stadium show(for selfish reasons; I wouldn’t be allowed into a smaller venue lmao).but that’s why there’s YouTube.!! I’m REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY excited for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also he couldn’t fill arenas if he tried! I’m sorry album sales just don’t say arena tour! So that’s why a smaller one is definitely the way to go. I don’t want him bankrupting RCA!

Really? I don’t know much about Gaga’s tours, but I hadn’t heard of the interactive component of it?

Well I dont even know what he means by that. Sometimes I think Adam just says stuff. But is he going to have sing-alongs? Will he go out into the audience? What does interactive entail?

he’s probably just saying words. Artist, avante gard, different, homophobia, you know, his key words.

Gorgeous photos! I love what he’s wearing.

On the subject of touring, I absolutely think he could fill arenas but I’m glad he’s wants to do smaller venues because that’s what I like. I can’t wait.

I worry too about the inavailability of tickets, especially close to the stage ones. After being in the 4th row for one show at the AI tour I vowed I would pay any amount of money to be near again should he ever tour. I was much much farther out at a previous concert and the crowd was different (or should I say indifferent) and it felt like watching a music video. I personally don’t mind the same show every night. I’d be upset if the one song I wanted to hear was last night, but not at my show!!

I want to do something that’s very visually dynamic, and is a little more interactive feeling than your typical arena tour.

arena tour? don’t tell me he even considers doing that. like he can fill up an arena?

great pictures.and by arena I’m pretty sure he meant opening for someone…

And his tour sounds exactly like what Lady GaGa is trying to do. So.. not different.

Uhm, no. First it’s Adam not Gaga. Both very visual artists but also completely different. Adam interacts and plays with the audience. Gaga is cooler, more of the NY vibe and interacts with her music and lets you watch. Adam=FIRE. Gaga=ICE. Opposite sides of the same coin. But, whatever, I totally want to see both shows.

a bit dissapointed about not being a stadium show(for selfish reasons; I wouldn’t be allowed into a smaller venue lmao).

You wouldn’t be allowed into a smaller venue? He’s not talking about clubs, but like.. what’s the word.. auditoriums, almost. Stadium and arena is like 20,000 people per venue or whatever, versus smaller venues which house like 5,000. I think you would be allowed. When I saw the Killers they were in a “smaller” venue, but it was still big.. and there was this young boy behind me standing on his chair.

stadium shows are so not the drama! You want it to be personal. You want there to be that energy.. that feeling of knowing that the only people that are there are big fans.. the ones that know every word… and you’re all jumping and singing in unison, doing the same dances..

plus, not even to be a certain way, but everyone is right- Adam couldn’t fill up an arena. A lot of established musicians and bands these days can’t or don’t.

I would love to see him at the Fox Theater in Atlanta, it would suit him wonderfully. “The 4678-seat auditorium, which was designed for movies and live performances, replicates an Arabian courtyard complete with a night sky of 96 stars (a third of which flicker) and a projection of clouds that slowly drift across the ‘sky’.”

It’s a freaking amazing place.

Chances are though that he would be at the Tabernacle.

great pictures.and by arena I’m pretty sure he meant opening for someone’ ¦

That’s what I thought when I read they were looking at smaller venues instead too, that he preferred not to open for someone on an arena tour.

not talking about clubs

ohhh.okay,cool.

I would love to see him at the Fox Theater in Atlanta, it would suit him wonderfully. ‘The 4678-seat auditorium, which was designed for movies and live performances, replicates an Arabian courtyard complete with a night sky of 96 stars (a third of which flicker) and a projection of clouds that slowly drift across the ‘sky’.’ 

It’s a freaking amazing place.

Chances are though that he would be at the Tabernacle.

I saw the Killers at the Civic Center in atlanta this past January… I could see him there. Just a stage with some chairs in front of it. Pretty standard.

Also he couldn’t fill arenas if he tried! I’m sorry album sales just don’t say arena tour! So that’s why a smaller one is definitely the way to go. I don’t want him bankrupting RCA!

Exactly!, giving up the arenas for smaller venues in order to be more intimate and creative is just an excuse. Small venues is the way to go.

I figured if Adam did his own tour (rather than opening for someone) that he would so a series of select shows in major cities at places like Hammerstein Ballroom/Beacon/Nokia in NYC….or maybe someplace slightly smaller….sounds good to me

There are a ton of theaters in Chicago that would be perfect for him. I am kind of glad it looks like he won’t be opening for someone. I was really thinking that was the route they were going to take. I only want to see Adam, lol!

I didn’t assume for one minute from his quote that he thinks he can fill an arena by himself. I’m sure he was referring to opening for a larger act like some of the other Idols have done.

As for mentioning “interactive”….Adam’s words are always purposeful. He’s got something in mind. I’ve found him to always choose his words carefully. Looking back to the interviews during the tour when he described what his album would be like, he hit the nail directly on the head. So when Adam tells me “interactive”….I’m believing him.

SparklesATL
12/17/2009 at 7:03 pm

I would love to see him at the Fox Theater in Atlanta, it would suit him wonderfully. ‘The 4678-seat auditorium, which was designed for movies and live performances, replicates an Arabian courtyard complete with a night sky of 96 stars (a third of which flicker) and a projection of clouds that slowly drift across the ‘sky’.’ 

That sounds awesome. I’m totally psyched for this show already. Unfortunately, I know they’re going to do the west coast first and if I don’t want to spend a couple months watching video of it on the web while longing to be there, I’m going to have to plan a road trip this spring.

As for mentioning ‘interactive’ ’ ¦.Adam’s words are always purposeful. He’s got something in mind. I’ve found him to always choose his words carefully. Looking back to the interviews during the tour when he described what his album would be like, he hit the nail directly on the head. So when Adam tells me ‘interactive’ ’ ¦.I’m believing him.

IKR? He’s totally down with teh interactive. Hey, on tour he interacted by playing with props people tossed up. I’m sure he’s got plans to organize it more. I suspect they’re thinking dancers and him even going into the audience.

ETA: Oh, jeeze. I’m just getting myself more excited. Time to go listen to the CD and let these images play across my eyelids.

There are a ton of theaters in Chicago that would be perfect for him. I am kind of glad it looks like he won’t be opening for someone. I was really thinking that was the route they were going to take. I only want to see Adam, lol!

And to be honest, no matter where or what, he would be such a hard act to follow!

So we’re looking at venues that are probably going to be a little smaller and a little more intimate.’ 

That’s the quote.

Even if Adam could fill arenas, I’d rather want to see him in a smaller venues or theaters. Like someone mentioned earlier, in arenas, if you do not get good seats, you end up watching him on the big screen.

I think people are just saying that he sort of implied an arena show was an option, but instead, he’s going to do more intimate show.

It’s really not that big of a deal. but I think a lot of people will read it as ‘instead of doing a stadium, I’m going to do something more intimate.’ 

Even that interpretation doesn’t read as him claiming he could fill an arena. But whatever, I’m not really expecting unbiased discussions.

I hope Adam will tour in the deep south, because he has a lot of fans in this part of the country. He did say Southerners were very nice and polite, so I hope he won’t forget about us when he starts touring.

I read it to mean that he was NOT doing an arena tour and was looking for something smaller. I don’t picture him on the fair circuit via Cookie…and I think he’s aiming for a little bigger than the Hard Rock. I’m guessing he’ll pick places like Red Rock, SB Bowl, Nokia and some of the other mid size venues. Much like Katy Perry. Just guessing based on my interpretation of what he said.

I don’t picture him on the fair circuit via Cookie’ ¦ Much like Katy Perry

Katy was playing the fair circuit this summer, she was at some of the same fairs Cook and Kelly were. Fairs and casino shows are the bread and butter for most new acts these days.

The big acts in arenas that he could open for have already done their shows, i.e. Gaga, Pink, maybe Perry. How many other acts are doing tours that would want to follow Adam’s open? He would steal the show.

Alison, I guess I took the quotation more like you did, but not in a way that means he assumed that he could fill stadiums. I don’t know, I don’t really feel like anything was implied…more like, he started talking to management and they just chose smaller venues for his first tour. Simple as that – I didn’t read anything more into it.

Ummmm there is nothing stopping him from “going smaller” AND at times being an opening act. Didn’t both Cook and Daughtry do this in addition to their own tour? I don’t think it is an either or situation.

Ummmm there is nothing stopping him from ‘going smaller’  AND at times being an opening act.

He could do both but it doesn’t sound like that’s what he’s talking about for the spring.

Interactive sounds good. I cant wait to see it!

You know, there is a u-tube of Adam leading a sing-a-long at one of those clubs he performed in before Idol and it’s really funny!

Adam knows and appreciates that he has fans who want to see him perform live (for some, see him live again, like me).

He knows a lot of those fans want to see him “put on a show” and he’s just letting them know he’s got some ideas he’s thinking about.

He’s a very polite young man, in my opinion (when he isn’t molesting mic stands, pulling “trolley stops,” or otherwise misbehaving – that’s when I like him best, though.)

From my knowledge of the biz, what an artist wants and what label/management are willing to invest are two different things. They’re looking at album/single/video sales figures right now trying to determine what the budget can handle and how much of a tour they can recoup the investment on through ticket and merch sales. As a new artist who hasn’t gone gold yet, the thought process right now is most likely either opening for a bigger, more established performer(s) and do larger venues or headline in smaller venues. If he’s an opening act, usually it’s a shorter set and therefore less production (set pieces, lighting, pyro, etc). If he does smaller places even down to 3K body space as the headliner, production would have some limitations but the set would be longer. Balanced against “cut of the till” for ticket sales for each show either option would probably at least break even.

Honestly I’d be happy seeing him in some place as small as Hammerstein Ballroom. I think he could tear up pretty good and have that connection with the audience that will amp up the energy.

Ummmm there is nothing stopping him from ‘going smaller’  AND at times being an opening act. Didn’t both Cook and Daughtry do this in addition to their own tour?

 
Cook never opened for anyone. I don’t follow Daughtry, but IIRC they opened for Bon Jovi, although that was after they’d gotten some experience on their own doing the fair circuit and other smaller shows, and their record had taken off.

An ambitious large venue tour would be ill advised…many of the big acts have had probs selling out these days with the huge ticket prices asked….besides a more intimate setting would allow Adam to really showcase his voice…..not to mention headline his own tour… he could sell out venues with 10k or less with ease….and spread the love to more locations….

sidewalkstory
12/17/2009 at 7:50 pm
Ummmm there is nothing stopping him from ‘going smaller’  AND at times being an opening act.

He could do both but it doesn’t sound like that’s what he’s talking about for the spring.

I don’t think anyone can say exactly what his plans are, he said just about nothing.

I can not speak for Daughtry, but Cook always headlined on his Declaration Tour, and started with a smaller colleges, with a couple of larger venues sprinkled in along the way. He then moved on to theatres, casinos, and fairs, with couple of small arenas. If you want to see the listings for David Cook and David Archuleta (others can fill you in on David A’s specifics) you can look here at Idol Stages.

ETA: In my opinion, a venue that would hold 10,000 is overly ambitious at this point. I would think that they’re looking more at theatres in the 1000-2500 range.

I figured if Adam did his own tour (rather than opening for someone) that he would so a series of select shows in major cities at places like Hammerstein Ballroom/Beacon/Nokia in NYC’ ¦.

I’m positively thrilled with the kind of tour Adam’s describing. The landmarked, beautifully renovated Beacon Theatre @ 2,800 seats in NYC would be my preference. For a larger venue, Radio City Music Hall @ 6,000 seats. Gaga just sold out four nights there in January 2010.

Come to Chicago BB Adam! we’ll be there!!

That being said, wouldn’t it be better to open for someone so he can expand his fanbase? Hope the smaller more intimate venues allow him to bring in new fans, or will they just be filled with the same old fans??

Anyway, we don’t have details so there’s no use in speculating too much, but I can’t wait. Like some people said, there are some GREAT locations in Chicago for this size venue. Gaga will be here in January for three nights at the Chicago theater and it’s totally sold out. I checked tickets and WOAH . . . expensive. He’ll sell out here in Chicago for sure if he picks a smaller venue. People love their shows here.

I think it’s too early for a stadium tour with him headlining. Too much financial risk too early in his career. Smaller is the way to go if he’s going solo.

Here is the entire quote from EW –

”I think it’s probably going to be springtime… I think it’s not going to be a standard arena tour…My big goal is I want to create a show. I want to do something that’s very visually dynamic, and is a little more interactive feeling than your typical arena tour. So we’re looking at venues that are probably going to be a little smaller and a little more intimate.”
From EW.com 12/17/09

1. This is three fragments put together.

2. EW did not provide the questions. But it looks like Adam was probably asked about an “arena tour”.

3. Makes sense that he would be booked into venues that are smaller than arenas — both to create a theatrical show like Katy Perry and Lady Gaga and because of the economics.

Anyway, my guess is that they are looking at venues that are either theaters/concert halls with capacities of 2K to 4K, or arenas that are theater arenas and can be reconfigured to have a formal stage area and about 5k of less capacity.

Guess we’ll know in the spring.

progression
12/17/2009 at 7:56 pm
Ummmm there is nothing stopping him from ‘going smaller’  AND at times being an opening act. Didn’t both Cook and Daughtry do this in addition to their own tour?

Cook never opened for anyone. I don’t follow Daughtry, but IIRC they opened for Bon Jovi, although that was after they’d gotten some experience on their own doing the fair circuit and other smaller shows, and their record had taken off.

THanks I must be thinking of Jordin and Archie.. now that I think about it.

ETA: I’ve seen that quite a few Idols have had concerts at one of our local universities in the burbs. Its not a huge school, but I was surprised to see Kelly, Daughtry & Cook headline there. Does anyone know how large a typical University area is? I know ours they frequently use only portions of it.

he could sell out venues with 10k or less with ease’ ¦

10k is not a small venue. I don’t think he could sell out 10k yet.

By interactive I think Adam means an intimate setting ala cabaret setting with seating of 5k or less.

His albums sales aren’t that bad, are they?

also, Adam Lambert was just mentioned on the SNL Christmas Special. It was a “Gilly” skit.. Adam Lambert would play Mary in the nativity scene. I feel like it’s a new skit?

The thoughts of Adam filling venues of 3000-6000 at this point is ridiculous. Daughtry and Kelly with all of their album sales behind them are filling small arena/half arena venues that size, and they don’t even always sell out and end up having venues selling tickets at $15. Adam is really looking at smaller clubs between 500-1500. Anyone who doesn’t believe this should go study some box office data.

That first picture with the motorcycle.. well, it looks like a big ol steel penis. I sort of glanced at first.. but yeah.

Bwahaha!! Me, too. I thought it was some sort of penis with hydrolic controls. Oh, Adam.

What is considered an “arena-sized tour?” Would the venues during the AI tour qualify? I think they only held about 10k, but I have to say – Daughtry was just here and played a venue that holds 7k. He didn’t fill it. (But, it was still a good-sized crowd.) Carrie will be playing in the same place in April. I’m guessing she’ll sell out, but as I said, that’s still only 7k. I’m going to guess that crowds larger than 10k are reserved for the huge, huge acts – Brittney, Madonna, U2, Miley. So, I’m actually thinking Adam is scaling down even more. For example, Cook recently played at a hall on a local college campus that holds about 2k. I’m going to guess that’s the type of tour Adam has in mind. It’s a nice size, but is a bit more intimate.

That being said, wouldn’t it be better to open for someone so he can expand his fanbase? Hope the smaller more intimate venues allow him to bring in new fans, or will they just be filled with the same old fans??

That is some good thinkin.

The big acts in arenas that he could open for have already done their shows, i.e. Gaga

GaGa is doing two shows here in the ATL at the Fox theater which seats just a little less than 5k. She’s doing Radio City in NYC which seats just a little over 5k.

The last arena show I saw was the Boss a couple of years ago and I swore I would never go to an arena show again. Unless you can get one of the few seats up close it’s a waste of money. Why would I want to spend major $$$ to watch someone on a huge video screen and hear the same songs I’ve got on CD? Never again. Only small venues for me.

The last arena show I saw was the Boss a couple of years ago and I swore I would never go to an arena show again. Unless you can get one of the few seats up close it’s a waste of money. Why would I want to spend major $$$ to watch someone on a huge video screen and hear the same songs I’ve got on CD? Never again. Only small venues for me.

Yeah it’s a waste. And even if you do get close enough, that normally entails general admission and waiting outside for a very long time. And with U2′s 360 tour, there was no guarantee he would even be in front of you.

Come to Ann Arbor, Michigan, Adam. WE love you unconditionally!! Hill Auditorium or the Power Center would be tight!!

The big acts in arenas that he could open for have already done their shows, i.e. Gaga

Speaking of which……. Lady Gaga just lost her second opening act for this tour of hers!

Katy was playing the fair circuit this summer, she was at some of the same fairs Cook and Kelly were. Fairs and casino shows are the bread and butter for most new acts these days.

Didn’t Katy do a couple of Festivals? I didn’t see her on the fair circuit. Anyway…I was referring to the larger venues that she did…the Bowl, Nokia etc.

True…fairs and casinos can be lucrative…but I don’t see Adam fitting in with the typical fair goer. Cook, Kelly, Carrie…yes. But, I just don’t see him mingling amongst the fried twinkies and pig races.

Not knocking the fairs…I saw Cook at the Ventura one…but they are what they are.

lol his tour would be… interesting
I hope Allison Iraheta has a tour soon!! I would soo go to that!

If he thought for a second he could fill the arenas there’s no way he’d go for “small and intimate.” However, it’s a positive sign that he seems to know he needs to start smaller. I’m sure a tour of 2500-4000 seat facilities will do very, very well, especially with the curiosity factor that has very little to do with his music.

I’m sure a tour of 2500-4000 seat facilities will do very, very well, especially with the curiosity factor that has very little to do with his music.

Go in curious, come out a customer. Sounds good to me.

Yeah.. maybe I’m just too poor, but I don’t go to a concert just to “check things out.” I only go if I’m a big fan. And I’m sure this economic climate, we can expect the same from most other people.

I just want him in venues with great acoustics and sound systems.

Stadium tours…..60k and up, usually outside (football stadiums)
Large outside venues…..20-60k (soccer stadiums)
Full arenas….20k (basketball and hockey arenas)
arena w/stage no upper deck….10k
half arena….5k to 10k
large theater seating….5k
small theater seating….2k
casino theaters…..1k to 2k
Standing room only……500 to 1k
Clubs 100 to 500 (Performance clubs up to 1k)

These are the typical set-ups for performance shows.

Unlike past Idols, Adam is more known for his presentations. People will pay to see him live because he is a showman and he brings an element of surprise. You know exactly what you get with the others -their CD. Adam wont just sing his songs, he will LIVE them and that is what sells. IMO. So yes, I think he could sell 3k and higher in the bigger cities at least.

When Carrie Underwood first started touring post Idol she did a number of shows at SoCal casinos, don’t know how big their venues are, but considerably smaller than an arena. We could have gone as it wasn’t that far and not very expensive but didn’t bother. Now Adam, different story, I’d go in a heartbeat if I could get tickets.

I just saw Lady Gaga Monday in San Francisco. There were about 7,000 people and it was a fantastic show. I could see Adam doing something like that, but maybe on a little smaller scale (2,000-3,000 people). She had multiple costume changes, dancers, props, and a full two hours of entertainment, live singing. Her show on Sunday, also in SF, sold out so quick, they had to add a second show. A club-like atmosphere is perfect for him. Arenas wouldn’t do him justice.

3000-5000 seat theaters sounds perfect. Adam wouldn’t have trouble filling those as a headliner, IMO. We are in the age of music piracy. Adam may have sold approximately 300,000 albums so far, but I bet there are more people out there who enjoy his music and would be willing to pay for a night of live entertainment. People pirate music because you can get the same product for free that you get paying for it on Itunes. You can’t recreate the live concert experience for free. On top of that, many of his hardcore fans will be attending multiple shows and bringing along their family or friends.

bridgette12
12/17/2009 at 7:27 pm
I hope Adam will tour in the deep south, because he has a lot of fans in this part of the country. He did say Southerners were very nice and polite, so I hope he won’t forget about us when he starts touring

So do I!! I just can’t think of where he could do one near me..I am in SC…

I would love it if he played the Beacon Theatre in NYC. I’ve been wanting to go to NYC anyway, my favorite city! But tickets would be hard to get

That being said, wouldn’t it be better to open for someone so he can expand his fanbase?

But open for…who? I’m not even sure at this point that even opening for Gaga would be a good idea. I have this strong impression her fans hate Adam (and vice versa actually). Remember when Justin Timberlake got water bottles up his ass opening for Rolling Stones? And I think it was only a couple songs for a charity event or something. Yeah, not sure I want stuff like that happening to Adam.

Ah! I’m so excited to see Adam live. I have tickets to see him on New Years and I can’t wait for a 10 song set.

Adam is playing it smart here, which is good to see. No idol has ever sold arenas out of the blocks, no matter how well their albums sold. Kelly, Daughtry, Cook and Carrie couldn’t do it. Carrie and Daughtry just started doing arenas, and mostly small ones at that. It’s a very big act that can fill an arena, and usually they’re only able to do it because they pack the bill. Even Gaga isn’t doing Staples, and Kelly Clarkson, even after all of her radio success, tried to put on an arena tour and couldn’t do it. It was quickly cancelled due to poor sales. It’s never smart to overestimate your audience. It’s better to underestimate.

Adam is also waiting awhile to put on his tour, which is smart. He needs to give more people time to buy and digest the album. I know some big acts who regretted touring right after an album release.

Seriously, RCA is smart. I’m sure they’ve got this figure out.

So….yay! I can’t wait to see him perform in an intimate setting with FANS, and their significant others, dragged friends, etc. LOL. (People forget that those people come too! Plus all those people who downloaded the album and didn’t buy it, which, given the internet these days, is a ton of people! And those who saw him on YouTube or simply liked his single, etc. I go to a lot of concerts of artists that I’ve never heard or purchased their entire album.)

Forgot to add: HOT pictures!!!!! Thanks EW!

i hope Adam will tour in Indonesia, at least Singapore maybe…

And whoever said 10k seats would be easy to sell, I’m not so sure. Some venues for the AI tour were that big and weren’t sold out.

The most impotant thing is Adam is talking about his tour!

Unlike past Idols, Adam is more known for his presentations. People will pay to see him live because he is a showman and he brings an element of surprise. You know exactly what you get with the others -their CD. Adam wont just sing his songs, he will LIVE them and that is what sells. IMO. So yes, I think he could sell 3k and higher in the bigger cities at least.

I don’t know about other Idols – but on a David Cook tour every show was different – 150 unique set lists (choosing from 33 songs).

It’s why I asked the questions at the beginning of this thread – and no one has seen fit to make any predictions.

Will the set list for an Adam Lambert show be static (unchanging from show to show) or dynamic (every show a different set list)?

Since no one is willing to make a prediction. I will make one. Adam’s background is theater – so he will choose a static set list – you will get the same 12 or so songs at every show.

Anyone have any different predictions?

But, I just don’t see him mingling amongst the fried twinkies and pig races.

Aww, you mean we’re not going to hear Adam gush about the wonderfulness of deep fried oreos? Too bad. lol.

I honestly don’t understand where this meme came from that Adam is a visual performer and he’s so much better live than in the studio, and that he needs a billion things to put on a show. Didn’t he use to do those cabaret shows? I think I saw a video once. Didn’t look terribly glitzy. Plus I could never stand to actually watch him sing, and at least in the studio he usually holds back from the OTT at least a little so it doesn’t fly straight into the ridiculous.

3000-5000 seems a bit high to me. I don’t think he should attempt to go past 2000, or maybe even 1000 at first, just to see what demand is like. If he sells out quick, he can start increasing venue size.

Also, small venues are cheaper. It means more money in his pockets. And with some luck (a lot of luck) it also means no silly dancers (or at least not many lol).

OMG OMG!!!! OMG! SNLs 1st christmas skit has Rob Pattinson as baby jesus, Taylor Lautner as Josephm & Adam as Virgin Mary!!!! LMFAO!!!!!

I hope Adam will tour in the deep south

Didn’t Adam say he will “date on tour”? He likes ‘em small and southern…you can bet he won’t scorn the South!

I think we have seen enough of Adam to know he likes to change things up a bit, so I would say he will.

I don’t know. He does seem to enjoy changing things up. IIRC he did state that one of the things he disliked about the theater was it being static. I think it will come down to just how elaborately he decides to go. I could see him changing maybe a song or two, but not too much of the show if he goes all out.

Kelly Clarkson sells a lot of records but recently here at MJs an article was in the headlines thread, good review of her concert, but there were a lot of empty seats according to the reviewer. I believe it held 7,000.

I think Adam should start out in venues of 2,000 to 4,000. JMO!

I don’t see how there could be anything but a “static” set list. When you are dealing with a production with sets, dancers, costumes, etc. you have to have a fixed set. Like taking a Las Vegas production on the road. If Adam decides to put on a simple no production show someday then he could change it up I think. Just my opinion.

OMFG robert pattinson was the LOVECHILD of adam and taylor lautner!!! did someone cap this?!?!?! ROTFLMFAO

you will get the same 12 or so songs at every show.

Well, unless I am an over-invested fan who follows him around the country I wouldn’t care if he gave me the same performance he gave someone else half-way across the country. Besides, I think that Adam will do visual shows….which means props, and lighting, probably video sequences, and maybe some dancers/back up singers.

These are the absolute best performances. Neil Diamond has been doing these type of concerts for years and he still sells out.

Now a small band and a vocalist who pretty much just sings and does some humorous banter like Cook, Daughtry, Kelly, Archie can change up their sets on a whim. But production performances take planning and timing and a lot of coordination, so changing up isn’t a real big option.

Though, I have no performance Artists to take 15 minutes out of their planned sets where they sit on a stool and sing some requests with just piano or guitar accompianment and answer audience questions and sing happy birthday to a lucky few.

. This really sounds amazing! Just hope it isn’t like when me and my mom went to a Cook concert and some people were REALLY rude to us. Just have to figure out how to get tickets and stuff without my parents knowing……

“Lambert’s appearance resulted in Chelsea Lately’s biggest audience ever…1.3 million viewers.” As per zap2it.com.

Thought some of you would like to know…if you didn’t already.

I hope Adam will tour in the deep south, because he has a lot of fans in this part of the country. He did say Southerners were very nice and polite, so I hope he won’t forget about us when he starts touring

“So do I!! I just can’t think of where he could do one near me..I am in SC’ ¦”

I am in Alabama and I missed him when he was down in Memphis while on the Idol tour. I wish he would come to Tuscaloosa, because the students at the University of Alabama would show him a good time. ROLL TIDE !!!

Has anyone on this thread mentioned the Zodiac Theatre shows yet? I’d expect that his experiences there might influence and/or presage the kind of show he might be imagining.

Lots of different stuff on the stage going on at once – on u-tube it looked to me like Cirque de Soleil only smaller, darker, more underground, and a little dirtier.

Is the SNL a real thing? If so, when is it??

Anyhew, Adam says he’ll be doing smaller and more intimate venues than arenas, so how it he said he’s doing arenas? Did I miss something in how that happened?

Anyhew some more, no effing way he could do arenas. People who sell millions of records aren’t selling out arenas, and he certainly isn’t sellling like that. Highly doubtful that Adam could regularly fill 2-4k at this point. But there are plenty of other venues that aren’t arenas and that seat more than a hundred people, that he can do.

And I hope he does them in my next of the woods, as I’ll plunk down some cash to see him.

Is the SNL a real thing? If so, when is it??

SNL is airing a SNL Christmas Special.. it started at 8pm here… It was just a skit.. and one of the characters made ornaments. R-Patz was joseph, Taylor Lautner was someone. Jesus maybe. And Adam Lambert was the virgin mary. they used that really bad picture of him.. this one I think

http://glosslip.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/adam-lambert-1.jpg

edit: don’t comment on the blog, stick to the subject

Anyway, medium sized venues sound great. He couldn’t fill arenas, and even if he could somehow barely manage to that wouldn’t be the best long term strategy to get positive buzz going. This plan is second only to him opening for Lady Gaga, imo. I just hope he comes to my area, because I really want to go but I’m not willing to drive hours for it.

Has anyone on this thread mentioned the Zodiac Theatre shows yet? I’d expect that his experiences there might influence and/or presage the kind of show he might be imagining.

Lots of different stuff on the stage going on at once ‘“ on u-tube it looked to me like Cirque de Soleil only smaller, darker, more underground, and a little dirtier.

As much as I would love a show like that, I’m thinking it will be a bit more reigned in.

Oh, and great pictures. So much better than the plastic Sebrees.

I am really happy to hear he is touring. I am hoping one of his stops is in the Chicago area.

I have no idea how many seats Adam could fill, but I do know one thing: he changed all the traditional Idol rules when he hit that Idol stage almost a year ago. Whatever happens in the spring with his tour, you can be guaranteed that it will be an Adam original not to be compared to any other Idol tour. I personally can’t wait, and I intend to go where ever Adam choses to entertain me.

BTW….GaGa is going to be near me in January at the Fox Theater in Detroit which seats 5,000. Ticketmaster is sold out, but many seats are still available through StubHubb, etc. I’m sure Adam, as well as his label, have no expectations to sell seats at this level this early in his career.

Since no one is willing to make a prediction. I will make one. Adam’s background is theater ‘“ so he will choose a static set list ‘“ you will get the same 12 or so songs at every show.

IF Adam chooses a static set list, you may get the same 12 songs at every show, but you will see an evolution of the performance at each show that will make you enjoy the last performance just as much as the first one. Look at the performances of WWFM so far. I enjoyed that song more last night on SYTYCD than I did the first time I heard it on the Early Show. Same song, totally different delivery, different nuances, different feel. Same thing happened on tour. Adam changed it up each night.

Since no one is willing to make a prediction. I will make one. Adam’s background is theater ‘“ so he will choose a static set list ‘“ you will get the same 12 or so songs at every show.

A static set list is the norm for big pop shows, isn’t it? You can’t just go randomly switching around the set list and adding or taking out songs without a visual and choreographed accompaniment planned. I thought that was the whole reason that what Cook does, with switching the song list around every time, is considered special by his fans? Because it isn’t the norm?

Anyway, Adam pretty much only has 12 songs to draw from, lol. That was a problem that plagued Gaga in her first tour too– lack of material to fill out one show, let alone have extra songs to switch in and out on a whim.

Thanks Alison for answering my question. Imaging this ornament and the Adam fetus ornament (someone was making this thing) hanging side by side in a xmax tree….

Anyway, Adam pretty much only has 12 songs to draw from, lol. That was a problem that plagued Gaga in her first tour too’“ lack of material to fill out one show, let alone have extra songs to switch in and out on a whim.

Plus, Cook had songs from his unreleased album, from MWK’s song book, and from covers. He really didn’t have to rely on one album.

I wish Adam could open for Lady Gaga though and expose himself to new fans as well as put on a show for his idol ones That concert was AMAZING by the way, definantly could see Adam fitting in there.

so he will choose a static set list ‘“ you will get the same 12 or so songs at every show.

A static set list is the norm for big pop shows, isn’t it? You can’t just go randomly switching around the set list and adding or taking out songs without a visual and choreographed accompaniment planned.

Yeah, that’s pretty much been my experience with concerts. Most artists understand that, for a majority of the audience, this is their one and only experience seeing them perform live. So, the set list is usually put together with great care.

Adam has the songs on his album plus DTRH and MP–he could also round out his set with several covers. Established artists do covers, and there’s no reason he couldn’t do some. Ring of Fire anyone? Crawl Thru the Fire? WLL? Come Home? Etc. Etc. He’s got plenty of material to work with plus maybe some of the unreleased tracks–e.g. Suburban Decay possibly. That being said, he probably won’t switch the set list much but I’m sure he’ll improvise and make each performance fresh.

Yes, pop shows are usually static set lists because they depend upon spectacle – Britney, Madonna. Rock shows are often dynamic set lists – Springsteen, Dave Matthews.

I know Adam loves Gaga, and I do too – but do you think most of her fans would like him? I’ve wondered about that.

(And I’m not going to try to make a joke about him “expos[ing] himself to new fans” . . . )

I wish Adam could open for Lady Gaga though and expose himself to new fans as well as put on a show for his idol ones That concert was AMAZING by the way, definantly could see Adam fitting in there.

Me too. That would be perfect. And Gaga has already consecutively dumped two planned touring partners for being douches (Kanye and Kid Cudi) and now she’s touring with Jason DeRulo. JASON DERULO. I mean come on, Adam’s better and would fit better, that’s not even my fandom speaking.

I know Adam loves Gaga, and I do too ‘“ but do you think most of her fans would like him? I’ve wondered about that.

Sure. They’re pretty similar, stylistically. Both theatrical, pop with some glam rock influences (although Adam has more of those), love the visual spectacle and sometimes try too hard to be edgy. Gaga presents herself as more of an artiste and singer-songwriter while Adam has a better voice, but they’re definitely the same vein of artist. I consider myself a Gaga fan and I like Adam!

And I hope he does them in my next of the woods, as I’ll plunk down some cash to see him.

I hate that I couldn’t edit because the thread was closed. Yes, I’m retentive enough, I know it’s neck of the woods and yes, I’d still plunk down some cash for that.

As to Adam’s set list, well besides the album, there are the bonus tracks, and could he do songs that they didn’t release? Like Suburban Decay? I never thought about how that worked. And of course he could do some covers, not the end of the world to mix in some covers, at least for encores. Lots of bands do fun covers as encores.

Oh, and great pictures. So much better than the plastic Sebrees.

Oh yeah. Even if some of them are a bit naughty, at least they’re more intersting looking, and Adam is more interesting looking and ya know, human looking. And a human who looks like Adam does! Most of the Sebree ones were too airbrushed/plastic, too OTT and whatever. I really like the headphones ones and maybe one of those could be his WWFM single (album uhem) cover. What were these for, anyway? Were these done for/by EW? I don’t know anymore, my brain is too fuzzy from work.

Adam has the songs on his album plus DTRH and MP’“he could also round out his set with several covers….He’s got plenty of material to work with plus maybe some of the unreleased tracks’“e.g. Suburban Decay possibly.

^^YES THIS. And Voodoo and the other song. DTRH so needs to be on the list.

Is Gaga’s list static?

Anyway, Adam pretty much only has 12 songs to draw from, lol.

says who?? Why does Adam have to stick to just songs on his album?? lol

Adam has the songs on his album plus DTRH and MP’“he could also round out his set with several covers’ ¦.He’s got plenty of material to work with plus maybe some of the unreleased tracks’“e.g. Suburban Decay possibly.

Yup!! there are a lot of choices. He can do whatever he wants.

BeckyMD: ooooh–I forgot about Voodoo on a possible set list. Isn’t that one going to be released overseas? That could work too. It’s hard to imagine but there is kick ass Adam music out there we haven’t heard yet. Well, I’m assuming it’s great, but I’ve liked everything else so far.

My favorite of all songs is DTRH. I MUST SEE him perform this live. It’ll be such a trip.

Anyway, Adam pretty much only has 12 songs to draw from, lol. That was a problem that plagued Gaga in her first tour too’“ lack of material to fill out one show, let alone have extra songs to switch in and out on a whim.

Don’t forget “Master Plan” and “Down the Rabbit Hole.” Also, he may be able to perform a couple of the things he did on AI. His “Mad World” never gets old to me.

Don’t forget ‘Master Plan’  and ‘Down the Rabbit Hole.’  Also, he may be able to perform a couple of the things he did on AI. His ‘Mad World’  never gets old to me.

But, if he’s doing dancing, costumes, and production, you can’t switch things up easily unless you decide to allow these songs to stand on their own and eliminate all the frou frou.

Okay – good! I’m gonna take your word for it, Sherena – thank you – because I’ve never been to a Lady Gaga concert. (Except for AI I haven’t been to any concert in too long to admit.)

I really love Lady Gaga’s videos, though, especially Bad Romance – it’s soo intriguing, weird, beautiful, exciting. I love that she evidently has a whole “art house” approach to what she does (and I’ve secretly wished that at some point in their careers they’d do something that involved Gaga helping “costume” Adam!)

I love her attitude, too (“I’m a free bitch, baby!). I think she Adam definitely have that in common, as well as the kind of “outsider” thing growing up.

Well, if he ever does open for her, I guess I’ll be going to a Lady Gaga concert!

Anyway, Adam pretty much only has 12 songs to draw from, lol.

says who?? Why does Adam have to stick to just songs on his album?? lol

Well, it wouldn’t be good for him to do too many covers. But yeah, that’s more than 12, including the bonus songs…oops It still doesn’t make sense for him to fiddle around with the set list, though. He’s unlike Cook in that he’s a theatrical pop star, and his performances have to be staged and choreographed. It makes no sense to have a dynamic set list.

Is Gaga’s list static?

Yes. Both of her tours have had static set lists.

On a different topic, how long will Adam’s concerts be, do you think? 1 hour? I’m guessing 1 hour, based on his available repertoire. Plus that was how long Gaga’s concerts were on her first tour, I think.

Wow. I didn’t open this thread back up so you all could pick up where you left off with the fanwarring bullcrap.

More bannings are on the way if some of you peeps don’t quit it.

Meanwhile, yeah, I would love to see Master Plan live. Wonder if he’ll doing it as part of the NYE thing? I hope so.

I disagree about Adam opening for Gaga. She is incredibly talented and I like her, but I think that with snickering about him being “Lord Gaga” it wouldn’t be a good move. I love avante garde/spectacle stuff but I just think that would be too much with them both on the bill. I believe that Adam is a dynamic enough performer on his own.

Hope he makes it to Toronto. The Masonic Temple is a fantastic venue, perfect for a more intimate style of show.

I just caught Bono with The Edge there on Elvis Costello’s tv show and Bono said something I thought was astute:

“Intimate [concerts] are the new punk rock”.

I immediately thought of Adam and thought this would be good advice.

He is one step ahead, I guess.

I believe that Adam is a dynamic enough performer on his own.

I’m sure he can put on a great show by himself, but from a marketing perspective, his own tour would be filled with his current fans. But opening for Gaga would introduce him to new fans, which he really needs. And Gaga’s demographic is perfect.

Realistically though, at this point I don’t think the Gaga/Adam tour is gonna happen. Oh well.

I’m interested in learning how many songs a set list includes too. Adam puts soooo much energy into his performances I’m having a hard time seeing how he can do so many songs night after night and not shred his voice. Can he really do those crazy vocals for two hours straight or is it just too much for anyone? The summer tour probably gave him (and all the Idols) a good chance to test his vocal limits so that he’ll be prepared for his tour. I’m expecting a limited number of engagements to start so maybe it won’t matter yet.

Since no one is willing to make a prediction. I will make one. Adam’s background is theater ‘“ so he will choose a static set list ‘“ you will get the same 12 or so songs at every show.

Ummmm…..I recall an AI summer concert tour where all of them did the exact same thing in 52 cities and it did not stop people from seeing it. Adam though he had the same song set the performances weren’t. I would also point out that the static set list as you describe it has worked extremely well for Madonna, Cher, Lady Gaga, Pink and Michael Jackson and they are not boring.

Well, I just hope he makes it to St. Louis…I’m thinking the Fabulous Fox Theatre would be just perfect for him to get all intimate. Lady Gaga is coming here in January and it sold out quickly!! I thought about getting tickets to take my son (he is like his momma and likes all kinds of music), but by the time I found out she was coming, they were all sold out.

Regarding Master Plan–did you notice in one of the behind the scenes video that he commented how much he liked the “don’t ask don’t tell” lyrics? I think he said that it kind of subtley told people what he was really singing about in case they weren’t sure.

Regarding Master Plan’“did you notice in one of the behind the scenes video that he commented how much he liked the ‘don’t ask don’t tell’  lyrics? I think he said that it kind of subtley told people what he was really singing about in case they weren’t sure.

Haha, did he really? Oh Adam, how very subtle of you. Almost as subtle as your flaming headdress. ^.^

I think opening for another more established act is the way to go to add fans, so I think that this “spring tour” may be a test run for Adam and the band with a limited number of engagements. I can’t imagine he’s going solo from here on out. He should play to larger audiences and if he needs another headliner then that’s what he should do to expand his fanbase.

Then again, I may be totally wrong!!

Sherena: my thoughts exactly. The lyrics aren’t exactly subtle, but JUST IN CASE you don’t get it, he did put a hint in there. Haha!!

I like the photo mj chose to display, the photo where he’s kicking a traffic cone, and the photo where he’s sitting on the phallic looking motorcycle best of this batch.

I do love these photos, especially those with the headphones. I like the motorcycle shots, too, just not AS much. My favorite is the one with his head back, eyes shut. Stylized, but not too much.

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You know, when I saw that interview about MP I noticed Adam said he didn’t write the lyrics and, if I recall this correctly (and if I do not, do correct me, please) I thought he seemed to imply that he didn’t IMMEDIATELY get the “don’t ask, don’t tell reference,” which REALLY surprised me!

Did I get that wrong?

I remember thinking to myself, wow – he really must NOT be into politics very much, as he says, to not instantly see that . . .

I’m not even sure at this point that even opening for Gaga would be a good idea. I have this strong impression her fans hate Adam (and vice versa actually).

Lots of fans of Adam’s like Lady Gaga also. I love her!
Many of my friends who are Gaga fans are really digging Adam and his music.

First it’s Adam not Gaga. Both very visual artists but also completely different. Adam interacts and plays with the audience. Gaga is cooler, more of the NY vibe and interacts with her music and lets you watch. Adam=FIRE. Gaga=ICE. Opposite sides of the same coin. But, whatever, I totally want to see both shows.

So True! This could totally work!

KLI,

He should play to larger audiences and if he needs another headliner then that’s what he should do to expand his fanbase.

I don’t think he necessarily should at all. He should do what works for him and his label. And from what he’s said, that may be concerts on a smaller scale. And let’s face it, Adam is going to do things differently than other artists. Of course, he wants to sell albums, and have people attend his concerts, but he appears to me to be not 100% solely focused on commerciality. He has an artists’ approach and that may not lend itself to larger audiences.

And, LOL, with Adam’s incredible live performance prowess, he might upstage the headliner!! Nobody would want to risk that! LOL

What is DTRH?

And let’s face it, Adam is going to do things differently than other artists. Of course, he wants to sell albums, and have people attend his concerts, but he appears to me to be not 100% solely focused on commerciality. He has an artists’ approach and that may not lend itself to larger audiences.

Adam seems pretty commercial to me. *shrug* Obviously he’s not the “compromise all my values and musical tastes, anything to sell” type, but he’s realistic about what he wants right now. Right now he wants to establish himself as on the pop scene and have a long term, commercially viable career. He said something to this effect in a Slezak interview a few weeks ago. I’m sure the label is choosing what they think is the best option for Adam’s career right now, not for his artistic sensibilities.

bridget: now i’m going to have to go back and see if he didn’t seem to get the “don’t ask don’t tell” lyric. I got it immediately, bit I’m a political junky so I pay attention to that stuff. Plus, the don’t ask don’t tell stuff was more in the news with Clinton, and Adam was pretty young when that was going on. Wow, I feel old now! I think it’s likely he didn’t get the lyrics when he first read them. Interesting . . . thanks for pointing this out.

DTRH = Down the Rabbit Hole.

Otherwise known as the best song of all time. Seriously, it’s a song worthy of Burning Man. I love it, but it’s quite odd. If you haven’t heard it, check it out.

Smaller venues will attract some casual music lovers too because of the lower price than arena show. And because headliner’s set is longer than opener, Adam could REALLY impress some people and turn them into his own fans.

In the few concerts that I went, I couldn’t wait for the openers to finish so that I could have what I really paid for. So there is caveat in opening for big artist too.

DTRH = Down the Rabbit Hole.

Otherwise known as the best song of all time. Seriously, it’s a song worthy of Burning Man. I love it, but it’s quite odd. If you haven’t heard it, check it out.

Thanks. I should have realized that. It’s a really good song. I do have it.

Sherena

I’m sure the label is choosing what they think is the best option for Adam’s career right now, not for his artistic sensibilities.

From what he has said in interviews, it is a collaborative process with his management. And, frankly, if they were so focused on his career/commerciality and not respectful of his artistic approach and aesthetic, they would have nixed the delightfully campy album cover because it wasn’t designed for the masses, that’s for sure.

RCA has been around for 90 years. I think they are smart enough to realize that Adam is not necessarily going to be a typical artist in many ways.

He has said to both MichaelSlezak and to Larry Flint and I am paraphrasing that he doesn’t like to think of himself as a product and recognizes that is a difficult to walk the fine line between success in the music industry as a newcomer and remain true to oneself. So, I guess he will go for both. Yea!

Anyway, time will tell, but I suspect Adam is going to be able to buy a house and have his purple and red hookah den sooner rather than later.

As a huge fan, I will be really glad for him!

Just a thought he could also play Suburban Decay and Voodoo during his concert. I would love it.

Smaller venues will attract some casual music lovers too because of the lower price than arena show. And because headliner’s set is longer than opener, Adam could REALLY impress some people and turn them into his own fans.

I don’t think a lot of people who don’t know about Adam will just randomly go because it’s cheap, though.

nvm~

From a selfish point of view, I would like to see Adam in a smaller venue. When I saw his Upright Cabaret performances, I was kind of bummed (jealous) that the audience got to see him in an intimate setting. I’m sure whatever he ends up doing will be much much bigger than U.C. And probably much bigger than I wish. But whatever… I will be there if possible.

I don’t think a lot of people who don’t know about Adam will just randomly go because it’s cheap, though.

9 months ago Lady Gaga performed in the House of Blue and the price was only $20+. The coming January when she comes to Chicago, she’ll have 3 shows that are priced at $300+. I still regret that I didn’t make to the HOB performance since I can’t afford $300 for a concert even though I like Gaga. I think if RCA ads it right, people who are curious about Adam will check out the concert instead of waiting to pay high price after Adam is fully established (let me hope that will happen sooner than later).

KLI, DTRH is my all time favorite too. I also recall the interview in the deluxe version when Adam suggested a very subtle ‘don’t ask don’t tell’ lyrics.

I am jealous of the UC performances too. Sometimes I imagine what it would be like to be in that audience a year ago on new years eve with knowledge of what was to come in 2009 and just enjoy every minute of it. Sigh . . .

9 months ago Lady Gaga performed in the House of Blue and the price was only $20+. The coming January when she comes to Chicago, she’ll have 3 shows that are priced at $300+. I still regret that I didn’t make to the HOB performance since I can’t afford $300 for a concert even though I like Gaga. I think if RCA ads it right, people who are curious about Adam will check out the concert instead of waiting to pay high price after Adam is fully established (let me hope that will happen sooner than later).

I was just thinking about her and then you posted this. Things can change very quickly that’s for sure!

Why does Adam have to stick to just songs on his album??

One of the major purposes of a tour is to promote the album. So you’ll likely see him playing a lot of songs from the record at a show, then maybe throwing in a few songs from his back catalog and/or covers. Covers can be a ton of fun and a great way to engage people who aren’t as familiar with your music.

As far as opening for another act goes, Adam probably isn’t established enough at this point to open for a big name. He needs some radio success first. DA and Jordin were able to open because they both had hit singles on CHR. Which Adam will very possiblly have by spring but doesn’t have as of yet. Another consideration for Adam and his management is that opening acts are lucky to even breakeven. They get paid very little upfront, if anything, and have to make their money from merch sales. Opening for a more established act is an opportunity to put your music in front of new audiences and hopefully win over some of them, but it’s a longer term investment. 19M’s willingness to front the money for that will likely depend on how well Adam is doing a few months from now.

I’d go to the house of blues and see Adam for $ 20. That would be a dream come true. A concert ticket that is less than the price of a parking ticket in downtown Chicago.

I am jealous of the UC performances too. Sometimes I imagine what it would be like to be in that audience a year ago on new years eve with knowledge of what was to come in 2009 and just enjoy every minute of it. Sigh . . .

It’s crazy that it was only a year ago! wow.

Yep, luv (can I call you luv?), I wish I’d been in that club when Adam said, “C’mon, fuck, that’s not how you do a sing-a-long.” Man, would I have sung-a-long! (If you haven’t seen that clip, anyone, trust me that he says this in the most adorable way).

It has crossed my mind to wonder if, at some point, since his fans are so . . . intense and, evidently, not just a few pretty well-heeled, Adam might do an Upright Caberet type show – pretty small – but then charge a really steep price for it!

(Hasn’t Barbara Streisand done that sort of thing before?)

I figured Adam would begin touring clubs. That seems to be the RCA pattern. Jive usually goes with the opening act for bigger stars stuff. So I predict that’s what Kris will do for his first tour.

If Adam sings DTRB in concert I’ll be all nervous about him messing up the lyrics. Then again, who would know if he gets them wrong!! They are particularly inscrutable.

$300 bucks for GaGa? That’s a joke, right? Or maybe they’re sold out and you have to buy them from a secondary place? Her tickets aren’t really $300 are they?

I figured Adam would becgin touring clbus. That seems to be the RCA pattern. Jive usually goes with the opening act for bigger stars stuff. So I predict that’s what Kris will do for his first tour.

Yes, I understand what you’re saying, but Daughtry was an opening act for someone and it worked out pretty well for him. I’m surprised that RCA isn’t taking advantage of that big arena opportunity that would avail itself by opening for a bigger act. After all, they’ve sunk A LOT of mony into this guy. What’s a “bit” more in order to get him those extra non-Idol fans that he really needs.

alison8701: I’m in Chicago too, and yes, tickets are in that range and higher for her January concert. I looked into it but figured it would end up costing me $ 1000 bucks with tickets, hotel (don’t want to drive home to the suburbs after drinking in freezing cold January), and babysitting for the kiddies back home. Ticketmaster is sold out, but weeks ago some were available on stub hub etc. It may be sold out by now. At that time, there might have been some cheaper tickets but I think those were in the standing room only area. Yuck. I want a seat.

alison8701: I’m in Chicago too, and yes, tickets are in that range and higher for her January concert. I looked into it but figured it would end up costing me $ 1000 bucks with tickets, hotel (don’t want to drive home to the suburbs after drinking in freezing cold January), and babysitting for the kiddies back home. Ticketmaster is sold out, but weeks ago some were available on stub hub etc. It may be sold out by now. At that time, there might have been some cheaper tickets but I think those were in the standing room only area. Yuck. I want a seat.

yeesh, that sucks. The price can add up quickly.. But I guess her tickets weren’t that price originally, right?

I don’t see Adam filling 2500-4000 seats either. I’d say clubs around 800/1,000 is just about right for a first tour. And the tickets won’t be for $20 unless they plan on losing $. Maybe something around $45 a ticket could work.

P.S. Daughtry’s first tour was smallish clubs. Then after their early success, the band opened for Bon Jovi (and I think Nickelback).

The tiickets are always much less if you get them directly from Ticketmaster. Those were the resale price. She was scheduled for two nights and they sold out so they added a third night here in Chicago. She now plays Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Obviously, I didn’t get the tickets. I’d do it for Adam though. I paid about $ 150 bucks each for the summer AI concert tickets because I had to get it from a reseller. Plus, a big shipping fee. This will be the first concert were I actually try to get tickets immediately when they are put on sale because those tickets can be very expensive by the time they are at the resellers.

Yeah.. this is like the fourth time I’ve brought up the time I saw the Killers in concert, but it’s my only frame of reference.. but when I went, I had to buy from a reseller as well. $150 when it was originally $45… then I paid $50 of my friend’s ticket in order to convince her to be closer, and our shipping fee.. then the train fare… it was like $400 by the time i was done. BUT IT WAS WORTH IT. but still. $45 vs 200?

uh.. moral of the story…. buy the tickets the second they go on sale.

And the tickets won’t be for $20 unless they plan on losing $. Maybe something around $45 a ticket could work.

I’d pay way more than that. I saw the AI tour twice with two kids because of Adam. lol….

(We were pretty close as far as AI goes, and no, I really couldn’t afford it but it was Adam. I don’t want to make the impression that I would do that for just any artist. lol… )

I’ve learned my lesson on tickets. When the time comes, I’m sure I’ll be asking for tips on how to buy them immediately because I’ve never done it before and you always hear about concerts selling out within minutes of tickets being put on the market. And I do think Adam’s concerts will sell out immediately–so long as they select the appropriate sized venues. If they don’t sell out, they went too large.

Allison just was announced on t.v. (must be J.K.)….. I got a warm fuzzy. You go girl!

Oh, now THIS motorcycle shot I really like:

http://twitpic.com/tz8ba

sorry if this is already posted)

Wowza to that new pic! Good grief, I wasn’t expecting that. soooooo cool. Wish I could read the text.

Yea! Adam is named one of EW’s Entertainers of the Year! Go Adam!!!

That motorcycle shot is from his write up in the EW magazine. Many more pictures there!!!
From the article: “From the cast of Wicked to World wide Superstar” Congrats Adam! Yay. Is the magazine already on shelves?

It seems like he’s always got a new photo shoot! When does he do all this?

KLI: I tried to find that interview again, but haven’t yet. If you do, and you feel like it, let me know if you think I was right about Adam saying he didn’t immediately get the “don’t ask, don’t tell” reference.

And we’ve got this one, too, right?

http://twitpic.com/tz81s

Adam’s latest tweet:

@adamlambert Vote for RYan Rock my Town! I’d love to perform in NYC!

Yay! I’m glad I live close. haha. Sorry non-New York glamberts, looks like Adam has a preference.

He tweeted to himself.LOL.

@adamlambert Vote for RYan Rock my Town! I’d love to perform in NYC!

Yes! Come on over to NYC BB! I want you to rock my town!

Daughtry was an opening act for someone and it worked out pretty well for him.

Daughtry didn’t start out opening for larger acts, he started out doing clubs, fairs and casinos. Not only does it make more sense economically, it gives the performers a chance to work out the kinks before facing larger audiences. Also, as I mentioned up thread, established acts want an opener with some experience and audience recognition. Adam doesn’t have that yet outside the AI bubble. Once he’s got an established radio hit and has proved himself with some successful smaller shows, he’d be much more interesting to “name” artists as a potential opener.

Daughtry is having trouble selling out arenas and has reduced his tickets to $14.99 for many of his concerts this season and has even given some away free to the first 100 people that visit him at the Walmart signings, so I don’t see how Adam Lambert would ever sell out large arenas or even mid-size.

Assuming Adam wants a seated Theatre style venue as opposed to a standing venue they usually run around 2,500. The largest seated theatre venue here in Melbourne is 2800 and after that you have to go to small arenas (like basketball or tennis arena which are more 10-15k. There isn’t much between those two. The theaters generally have much better acoustics and staging options without as much cost as you don’t have to construct the actual stage and lighting etc – is already there.

I would absolutely love to see Adam at the Palais Theatre here in Melbourne and have already put in a word with a little birdy I know who does booking there for when he comes to oz… probably no chance but hey never hurts to ask.

Daughtry is having trouble selling out arenas and has reduced his tickets to $14.99 for many of his concerts this season and has even given some away free to the first 100 people that visit him at the Walmart signings, so I don’t see how Adam Lambert would ever sell out large arenas or even mid-size.

I think selling out arenas is for larger than life bands. We haven’t seen that for awhile…

Not sure of the need to compare Adam to Daughtry. Two completely different performers for one, and for two, Daughtry should not have tried for such big arenas in the first place for his solo tour.
And Daughtry’s management should have known better as well.
Where ever Adam performs, his management team should know what size is the most suitable at this time and in the future who knows? It is a little premature to assume he will never, ever sell out large arenas based on Daughtry not being able to do so. Time will tell and my bet is on Adam!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_p3uJvMwnU&feature=player_embedded

brief snl video, hilarity ensues!

When mentioning arenas as an option, Adam probably meant that he would be an opener. He isn’t completely unrealistic. It’s recession time, and there are hardly any artists/bands born in 90s/00s filling arenas, they tend to be older artists (Madonna, Metallica etc.)

If he didn’t mean as an opener, then he probably just voiced out a ready sound bite explanation, written some PR rep and meant for general audience who doesn’t know that artist seldom can make the venue decisions based on the level or intimacy or artistic setup.

But yes, Adam should start with smaller venues and as a headliner, with a loose enough schedule so more dates can be added if the concerts sell well.

Well, most of you are probably asleep by now, but for what it’s worth, here’s what I think:

I LOVE the fact that he wants to headline, even if it means small venues!
I think there is something very right about establishing yourself by your own vision, on your own terms- so that for the people who do come to see you, you will make the exact impression you want to. And I guess that can only trully happen if you go solo (not without a band- but without another act after you).

One of the best pieces of advice a friend once gave me when I started a new job was to always “dress one level above the one you’re in”- meaning- if I was “just” an intern, I shouldn’t dress more “shabbily”, but should dress already like a lawyer, and it will be like a prophecy that realizes itself- and it actually works! Because the energy you radiate is the energy you receive back by others. If you’re confident, it convinces people to put their confidence in you as well! If you have a vision- you have to stand by it, and if you’re persistent enough, it will get people on board and win their respect. More than if you compromise your vision just to be able to “reach more people”. What will reaching more people help if you’re not showing them what you really want to show?

I think it’s the same thing Adam is thinking: he knows he has to
compromise on some things, with the economy being what it is, and with his sales not being crazy (yet!)- so he chooses to compromise on the size of the venue, in order to gain his vision- which is the advantage of being in center and thus being able to put on a show he believes in 100%.

I thinks it’s great- because I’m SURE his shows will be Fabulous- and when shows are good, people hear about it through word of mouth and through the positive reviews it will most likely recieve, and eventually it will sell well and enable him to fill larger venues- but again, on his own terms.

I just wish I could come to the US for it… I would love to experience some Adam interaction

mr – loved your post and I agree with you. I would love for you to get here too!

Adam does have vision, incredible, outrageous, wild vision and I cannot wait to see what he has in store for us.

Great Post!!!

mr
12/18/2009 at 1:59 am

Well, most of you are probably asleep by now, but for what it’s worth, here’s what I think:

I LOVE the fact that he wants to headline, even if it means small venues!
I think there is something very right about establishing yourself by your own vision, on your own terms- so that for the people who do come to see you, you will make the exact impression you want to. And I guess that can only trully happen if you go solo (not without a band- but without another act after you).

One of the best pieces of advice a friend once gave me when I started a new job was to always ‘dress one level above the one you’re in’ - meaning- if I was ‘just’  an intern, I shouldn’t dress more ‘shabbily’ , but should dress already like a lawyer, and it will be like a prophecy that realizes itself- and it actually works! Because the energy you radiate is the energy you receive back by others. If you’re confident, it convinces people to put their confidence in you as well! If you have a vision- you have to stand by it, and if you’re persistent enough, it will get people on board and win their respect. More than if you compromise your vision just to be able to ‘reach more people’ . What will reaching more people help if you’re not showing them what you really want to show?

I think it’s the same thing Adam is thinking: he knows he has to
compromise on some things, with the economy being what it is, and with his sales not being crazy (yet!)- so he chooses to compromise on the size of the venue, in order to gain his vision- which is the advantage of being in center and thus being able to put on a show he believes in 100%.

I thinks it’s great- because I’m SURE his shows will be Fabulous- and when shows are good, people hear about it through word of mouth and through the positive reviews it will most likely recieve, and eventually it will sell well and enable him to fill larger venues- but again, on his own terms.

I just wish I could come to the US for it’ ¦ I would love to experience some Adam interaction

I think selling out arenas is for larger than life bands. We haven’t seen that for awhile’ ¦

As context, Pink just toured here in Oz – well she spent about 4 months here actually and she played a venue that holds about 15k – she sold out 17 shows! But I don’t think even they thought the demand would be so large or she probably would have just played a few shows at a larger arena. We get large arena (70k +) acts down here but they are always more established and have been around for years.

The newer artists always play the smaller theater type venues with 1000-2500 capacity. BTW Kelly Clarkson’s last tour here fell into that category I think when she tours next year she is moving up to the same venue Pink played but only for one show.

To me, the idea of seeing Adam in a more intimate setting is a dream come true. During the Idol tour I kept trying to imagine what the ideal situation , as an Adam fan, would be in which to enjoy him to the max. I kept coming up with smaller venues than those on the idol tour, but large enough to accommodate proper staging for the theatrics that Adam shines in, with dancers and glam radiating from the stage, and yet the ability to see it all without having to resort to big screens. My sister-in-law and I have already agreed to go to the nearest show to San Diego that he will do. We are both avid fans, both 60ish, and I just found out that she has known his mom socially for years! WTH???Why didn’t I know this during the summer??? Anyway, I am committed to seeing him on this tour…I didn’t go to the Idol tour because I refused to attend a huge concert with a bunch of people that were just filler for the main event: Adam, and then just 20 minutes of him. I will spend whatever it takes to get the best seats available in the best venue that I can find on the west coast just to experience that fabulous voice and marvelous charisma.

KLI-

Do you have Ticketmaster where you live? Or a similar company that’s your main ticketseller for events? Here, you can register with Ticketmaster online with all your personal and credit card info and list your favorite performers, and if that performer is coming in concert, they’ll notify you by email and set you up with a special code for the presales so you can go online as the presale starts and get your tickets.

A couple of points:

1. The idea that Adam fans are “inside the Idol bubble” doesn’t make any sense. Many passionate Adam fans never watched Idol before Adam, and some Adam fans became fans after the season was over.

2. My guess is that Adam could sell out a 3,000 seat venue in most large markets at $50+. The only concert ticket sales info we have is the Idols Live Tour — and in Memphis and Atlanta there were easily 4,000 fans at each concert to see Adam.

Finally, don’t underestimate Adam fans — there are a lot of them and they are very committed — 1.3+ million people watch the Adam Lambert interview on Cheslea Lately. By far the highest rating the show ever has gotten. People bought VIP tickets and waited in line for 2 hours in Tampa just to meet Adam — hundreds of people stayed in line and missed the concert.

Kelly and Clay did their first tour in arenas up to 13.5K seats.

It was the Independent Tour in the spring of 2004. There were 30 shows and the total gross for the tour was $11,203,887.

The total attendance was 249,790 with a capacity of 295,373 so their average % was 84.6%

The average ticket price was $44.85 and they actually had 5 sellouts. Pretty good for a first tour.

In this economy it will be hard for anyone to fill large arenas and most artists are touring with another person if they want large venues. It is a difficult time for all artists. I hope it gets better soon.

I prefer the intimate venues as opposed to arenas. For the most part the sound systems are significantly better in the smaller theaters. The ‘cavernous’ arenas are designed primarily to offer sporting events and that impacts the acoustics accordingly, IMO.

I recall Kelly and Clay touring together and selling out what I would characterize as medium sized arenas, including the Staple Center and what was then known as the Arrowhead Pond. In these venues, the best concert experience were the floor seats which were quite hard to get, and pretty expensive. Clay’s subsequent tours were more intimate and even though the usual ticket frenzy was a given for the better seats, superior sound sets made most seats a viable option.

Not sure where to post this link, or if it has been posted already…BUT, this is a video of Adam with JoJo from LA radio station.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U34EFnt1Ddk

This is my fave Adam look- simply handsome-simple hair, simple liner.

LOVE the short interview!! SELL that album, boy! I ordered 2 CDs today off of Amazon, one for each auto. I already had the downloaded album on my ipod, from preoder. I know I could have burned one, but price was right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm5UeHZ_baY

link to radio interview, too

Thanks, iluvai and austingrrl!

And Q3- yep I agree with you- although I’ve become regular poster here at mj’s- it’s only because it’s my best source of Adam news.

It’s not because I love AI. I’m sorry, but I don’t- I’ve never watched it before (except for a youtube clip here or there- usually the funny auditions, heehee), and I don’t know if I will in the future.
I doubt anyone will be able to captivate me as Adam does.

I’m one of those people who love Adam “despite” his being on AI.

Then again- I don’t hate AI or anything! I’m actually very grateful to it for giving Adam an oppertunity to be found.

It’s not because I love AI. I’m sorry, but I don’t- I’ve never watched it before (except for a youtube clip here or there- usually the funny auditions, heehee), and I don’t know if I will in the future.

I’ve never watched a single episode of AI in full either. I just somehow stumbled upon Adam’s performances on the Internet in May and had to find out more about him. I don’t actually watch any talent shows on tv; too many cringe worthy moments for me (I can’t even enjoy the funny auditions, they are not funny to me )

Finally, don’t underestimate Adam fans ‘” there are a lot of them and they are very committed ‘” 1.3+ million people watch the Adam Lambert interview on Cheslea Lately.

I do honestly believe that Adam has an extremely devoted fanbase, I just dispute the numbers. The reason I am questioning a number like 1.3 million is, if they are so devoted wouldn’t that have translated into more than 300 thousand CD sales so far? Seeing that a band like Daughtry and even Green Day in some cities, have trouble selling out arenas and large theatres, I truly think Adam should stick to 2,000 and under for a first solo tour. Much better to have demand and quick sell-outs that make news than empty seats.

I do honestly believe that Adam has an extremely devoted fanbase, I just dispute the numbers. The reason I am questioning a number like 1.3 million is, if they are so devoted wouldn’t that have translated into more than 300 thousand CD sales so far?

I don’t think that Q3 was saying that all of those 1.3 million viewers were tuning in specifically to see Adam on Chelsea Lately. I believe Q3 only pointed out that the show had the highest rating ever when Adam was on. Now, whether that means anything tangible is another thing altogether.

I watched AI last year through youtube, really liked David Cook, even thought that I was a little obsessed, but it’s NOTHING compared to Adam (I still like Cook very much, though). I agree with those, who would prefer smaller venues for him – he likes to connect with his audience, the sound is better, plus I don’t think, funtastic as he is, that he would sell large venues – maybe in the future, but definitely not now.
I am looking forward for his international tour

I just want to agree with Q3, mr and universal. I’m not into AI at all, and don’t watch it. Sorry. I became a fan of Adam after I saw his performance at the AMAs – because it was awesome.

And yeah. I am definitely another one of those who is his fan ‘despite’ the fact that he came off Idol.

I think it pretty much goes without saying that Adam wouldn’t be doing an arena tour anytime soon. If the anemic (in the context of AI and the hype that has surrounded Adam) sales are any indication, I would assume that even if that was what he wanted in the first place, it wouldn’t be a possibility unless some promoter somewhere is willing to shell out and lose millions of dollars. I mean even Lady Gaga isn’t touring arenas. She’s doing theaters and casinos and similar venues and her record/single sales and airplay are huge!

It would be very interesting how Adam will be able to translate his large persona into a small club-like performance atmosphere. But then again, as this is where he came from, it won’t really be something new to him. I’m looking forward to seeing videos of this next year.

“Finally, don’t underestimate Adam fans ‘” there are a lot of them and they are very committed ‘” 1.3+ million people watch the Adam Lambert interview on Cheslea Lately. By far the highest rating the show ever has gotten. People bought VIP tickets and waited in line for 2 hours in Tampa just to meet Adam ‘” hundreds of people stayed in line and missed the concert.”

^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^^^

I am ONE of the many people that went to Tampa Jingle ball ONLY to meet Adam. I didn’t care about the concert. I paid the price of the tickets ($110 each for my husband and I) JUST to meet Adam. Plus let me mention, that we drove 600 miles from GA.

Devoted???? YES yes I am…. and I’d pay double that & drive double that if I had to.

I can’t even enjoy the funny auditions, they are not funny to me

Universal- I completely understand you, there is an element of sadism and humiliation in those- and I do kinda feel guilty about it- but I can’t help it!!! Some of them make me laugh so hard I could die… yes, that is the bad side of me, I know… but usually I’m a good person

mr, Universal – I’m with on this, but tell me please, how some people can be so blind not to see that they are terrible? I can carry a tune, but I would never try to get into a competition like that, because there are so many muuuuuch better than I am. Somehow these people are asking for it, sometimes.

but usually I’m a good person

Oh, I know you are, mr

how some people can be so blind not to see that they are terrible?

I believe that some of them know fully well that they are terrible. And even use it to their “advantage” to possibly get on tv. Then there are the delusional ones who actually think that they really are good singers… I can’t understand either of those groups but hey, I bet there are a bunch of people who can’t understand me…

well, don’t they have friends or family who would tell them not to be ridiculous? I mean I love my daughter to death, but I would tell her immediately, if I thought that she might make a fool of herself on national TV. Some people are just so gullible. Well, the rest can’t help but laugh at them, I guess

But didn’t they reduce those “stupid” auditions last year?

But didn’t they reduce those ‘stupid’  auditions last year?

I wouldn’t know, I didn’t watch

agathe.hb-

I guess if you think about it logically, then even though these are extremely delusional people, they still don’t deserve to be mocked and humiliated on such a huge scale, especially since I guess some of them aren’t the brightest people to begin with, so maybe they should be shown some compassion instead of mockery…

Having said that, I find myself checking out these videos nontheless, because I guess we all have that cruelty inside us that likes seeing people slip on a banana peel or running into a lampost, or any other form of slapstick comedy ( that is the most popular form of comedy till this day, however sad it may be…)

On another, rather shallow note- have you guys seen Adam’s new twitter background picture? It’s fab… he has a tanktop on and all his adorable freckles can be proudly seen!
It’s the first time I’ve seen so much of them (both arms) and it’s really funny to see a raven haired freckled guy!

Hmm, I am not sure headlining his own tour is a good decision… I think Cook headlining was a bad decision. Would like it best if he was co headlining with someone exciting.

TGIF.

The radio interview (sans video) was kind of lame, thou we did find out Adam likes mac and cheese! Unfortunately, they did not play Adam afterward (but K-100 in NYC did, and I stream them so WFH). And Adam is surprised that Time Magazine picked him as one of their most interesting people. Well, Adam, you are. I like this interview more, b/c we get to see Adam and hear him plug his album. Plus–of course–EMO HAIR!

I absolutely want to see Adam headline a tour. I don’t care if the venue seats 100 people (ha ha, not–more like 1,000). He was already on the Idols Tour, which I went to for him (and then Matt and Kris). I am only interested in hearing him and the Band at this point. I love the album, so why would I want him not to play all of it, plus maybe a Citizen Vein song or two or–hold me–I Just Love You or Come Home? I would. He’ll find a way to make it interesting. He’s not Cook–comparisons don’t make sense–and as much as I love Cook, the type of shows won’t be remotely the same. I think Kris’s tour will be similar to Cook’s (just a hunch).

Those pics of Adam above are hot.

I can’t wait to see him on Leno. Jay LOVES Adam and seems to include him in his monologue every night. It should be a fun sit down. Of course, they will play WWFM, b/c that is the single, but Adam asked people to call their radio stations to play that AND FYE, so okay. Since Adam mixes up WWFM every time he sings it (I expect this will be much more like he sang it on Conan, my personal favorite–no Adam/Tommy body pumping, I believe).

Damn, I love this man. I desperately hope they find a way to televise the Gridlock concert.

Kelly and Clay did their first tour in arenas up to 13.5K seats.

Yeah they played the MCI center here in DC (now the Verizon center) and they were lots of fun … but it is hard to fill large arenas especially by yourself. They didn’t fill our arena but it was a respectable showing. I was disappointed at first when David Cook played at small venues (some were only 100-200 people!) but it worked out well for him. Meanwhile it gives the fans a chance to see them up close and personal, which might not be the case later on when (if) they get bigger.

Kelly and Clay did their first tour in arenas up to 13.5K seats.

It was the Independent Tour in the spring of 2004. There were 30 shows and the total gross for the tour was $11,203,887.

The total attendance was 249,790 with a capacity of 295,373 so their average % was 84.6%

I’m not a Kelly fan so don’t know how often she has toured. Clay toured alone in a Solo Tour summer of 2004, and a Joyful Noise Tour at the end of 2004.

In 2005 he toured with his very popular Jukebox Tour. He also had Christmas tours in 2005, 2006, and 2007.

How many cities did David Cook do in his first tour? Will that be an indication of how many cities Adam will do?

I just can’t imagine Adam being an opening act. And it isn’t about his popularity or his status or anything like that…it is just because of the “type” of performer he is. He is a showman and when he is on he “demands” your attention as a viewer and he gets you involved in the performance. And just like at the Idol tour, no matter how good the next performer is, it takes a while to come down from the high that is Adam’s performance.

Even on SYTYCD the buzz yesterday was how he stole the show. Not only from the premise of SYTYCD and its winner, but from Leona and Mary and Jennifer Lopez. How does this equate to being an opening act? Of course he could open for a mega star….Elton or Madonna but he would overpower many of today’s popular performers.

I think Adam has developed enough of a fan base to have a 20 city tour at 2000 seat arenas. That is only 40,000 peeps and he could easily sell that. Even if he went to 5,000 seats that is 100,000 and again I think he could sell those seats at $50 a pop.

All singers are different and all tours are different…I sometimes think that we want to equate all things and that just isn’t possible. And to say that X couldn’t make it work then Y will definitely fail isn’t always the outcome. And heck…just remember that our dear friend Taylor is still touring with Grease, how many months later and he has one song and people are still coming out to see him and the show.

If the performance is good and something people want to see and hear they will come out and see it. I am amazed daily at how many artists perform in Phoenix who I have never heard of and who sell out their shows…we inside our nice safe bubble really don’t know what the outside world is thinking or doing or buying.

Tess
12/18/2009 at 9:50 am

I just can’t imagine Adam being an opening act. And it isn’t about his popularity or his status or anything like that’ ¦it is just because of the ‘type’  of performer he is. He is a showman and when he is on he ‘demands’  your attention as a viewer and he gets you involved in the performance. And just like at the Idol tour, no matter how good the next performer is, it takes a while to come down from the high that is Adam’s performance.

ITA with Tess. No singer would want Adam for their openings. Adam would steal their shows.
ETA, the next day, all the media would talk about him, just him

Tess, you are absolutely right
I don’t know, if there would be much interest among performers to have Adam open for them

Adam could make a fine opening act for someone like Gaga. But he’ll need WWFM to big a bigger hit on the Top 40 chart (which it probably will be). I still think opening for bigger acts is the way to go to expand the fanbase.

The “problem” with headlining a tour for people off Idol is they can end up seeing many of same faces show and show. You get the overinvested Idol fans who cash out the 401K and start stalking the person from city to city. That’s fine for selling tickets but getting new fans trumps pleasing the base IMO.

That’s why I still think Cook should have also opened for a bigger act instead of headlining his own tour.

sidewalkstory
12/18/2009 at 9:46 am
How many cities did David Cook do in his first tour? Will that be an indication of how many cities Adam will do?

Adam is a very different kind of performer and has a very different market compared to Cook or any other Idol alum. Just like Cook’s launch didn’t look like Jordin’s, Adam’s wll no look like Cooks.

ITA with Tess. No singer would want Adam for their openings. Adam would steal their shows.
ETA, the next day, all the media would talk about him, just him

ITA with Tess — well said.

And I do not think that we will see Adam open of anyone. I agree, who exactly would want to take the stage after Adam?

Even his 3 big live TV performances ended up being about Adam –

#1 Idol final — big story, Adam lost

#2 AMA — Did anyone else perform?

#3 SYTYCD Finale — Did Adam win?

I agree with Q3,universal, and agathe. Never watched AI after catching what to me were cringeworthy auditions. Flipping channels and saw Adam do black or white and was captured by his energy and the voice. Went to two tour venues only to see Adam (and I grew to like Allison). I don’t want to see him on a jumbotron, I want to see him performand hear that voice with great beats behind it but he carries the best amp around with him–a diaphragm trained to support his voice. Actually I’d love to see a smaller venue tour and I think Allison should open for him and they should do another duet because their interaction is so much fun and they bring out the best in each other. I know there will be people that say AI is over but here are two performers whose voices are the focal point of their talent. Not that Adam needs an opening act IMO but it seems he is such a collaborator he would enjoy it and Allison could build her audience

The big acts in arenas that he could open for have already done their shows, i.e. Gaga, Pink, maybe Perry. How many other acts are doing tours that would want to follow Adam’s open? He would steal the show.

My comment from last night that shows I believe it would be very difficult for Adam to be an opening act.

mr, you are right about our inner cruelty and tendency to lauch at slapstick comedy, well its in our nature and that’s why it’s still popular
anyway, I will try to watch the next AI (through MJ’s site, of course) to see, who they will try to push and support. It might be interesting – as Ellen said, there will be many people wearing black nail polish and eyeliner

Actually I’d love to see a smaller venue tour and I think Allison should open for him and they should do another duet because their interaction is so much fun and they bring out the best in each other. I know there will be people that say AI is over but here are two performers whose voices are the focal point of their talent. Not that Adam needs an opening act IMO but it seems he is such a collaborator he would enjoy it and Allison could build her audience

I was thinking the same thing myself not two days ago. Especially if her CD refuses to take off.
But I also agree with jpfan in that touring as an opening act would boraden his audience. Maybe he should tour with Rihanna? Especially if she’s going the Grace Jones path and therefore have some theatrics and elaborate sets-it would make it easier for him to get the theatrical tour he wants. Or he could tour with Christina, she’s making a new album right now. And she’d be one of the only people out there today who wouldn’t be completely outshone by his vocals, being a strong vocalist herself.

Having Allison open for him would be the worst idea ever. He has said himself that Idol is over.

Allison’s fanbase is completely different. They are not suited for Adam’s shows. Can you see eleven year olds and their parents watching a repeat perf of FYE? Even a scaled down one?

This would be a totally inappropriate pairing.

Even his 3 big live TV performances ended up being about Adam ‘“

#1 Idol final ‘” big story, Adam lost

#2 AMA ‘” Did anyone else perform?

#3 SYTYCD Finale ‘” Did Adam win?

Yep, I would add #4, Idol summer tour – Who closed the show?

sidewalkstory, I totally agree!
Their pairing was good on Idol – Adam toned it down with her, even during the Summer tour, but now he wants to get more “adult and more sexual”, it would not bode well for Allison – she needs to appeal to younger audience.

Even on SYTYCD the buzz yesterday was how he stole the show. Not only from the premise of SYTYCD and its winner, but from Leona and Mary and Jennifer Lopez. How does this equate to being an opening act? Of course he could open for a mega star’ ¦.Elton or Madonna but he would overpower many of today’s popular performers

Agree 100%, also, I would be trilled with smaller venues and only Adam and would be willing to pay more for tickets for a nice venue like WAMU theater in NYC( currently hosting Cirque du Solei). I also agree with ppl uptread that said that Adam is the kind of artist that can and will sell out concerts, they just have to plan it right.

While I agree about the tour being over I don’t think allisons voice and style appeal to the Tweens. I think she appeals to an older demographic. And I’m not saying that Adam should tone anything down. I just don’t see a lot of Tweens appreciating her I think she’s more of a college crowd draw people who can appreciate a whiskey voiced old time rock n roll soul. That’s just my opinion. Basically I want all Adam all the time. I loved his timing and expressions on the mistletoe skit.

#1 Idol final ‘” big story, Adam lost

#2 AMA ‘” Did anyone else perform?

#3 SYTYCD Finale ‘” Did Adam win?

LOL, Q3, and about #1, did anyone else get a kick out how B.Walters said ” and the winner is not Adam Lambert, I am still smiling when I remember that. Btw, I cannot check I-tunes from work, can anybody give a update? thanks.

angela,
I checked
WTWFM – 36
Album 52
FYE 68

ooh, and MV FYE – still no. 1

Angela, and the MV is still #1.

While I agree about the tour being over I don’t think allisons voice and style appeal to the Tweens. I think she appeals to an older demographic.

Allison’s demographic is teens, her album is teenybopper music, and if she wants to increase her audience. let her do it with someone else besides Adam. Why does Adam have to be the one to help the sales of other Idols? He has broken away from the Idol mold. Stop trying to put him back into it.

It seems that the Gridlock NYE show still has plenty of tickets. That makes me nervous. Would like to see it sell out. I don’t know much about the event and I know that Adam’s fans are from all over so maybe it isn’t a good representation of his draw. I’d go but it would be really expensive and I’m not sure how viewing would be for the main stage event. Has anyone ever gone? Could they share their experience? Thanks.

Adam could make a fine opening act for someone like Gaga. But he’ll need WWFM to big a bigger hit on the Top 40 chart (which it probably will be). I still think opening for bigger acts is the way to go to expand the fanbase.

The ‘problem’  with headlining a tour for people off Idol is they can end up seeing many of same faces show and show.

Frankly, I think that being an opening act is kind of the way they all should go, for the tour to have maximum effect on expanding your fan base.

However, I suspect that getting the tour to be the opener for is often easier said than done. It has to be somebody whose audience will like you and who wants to tour at the same time that you need to tour, *and* who’s willing to tour with you, which people may not be for various reasons or no reason, etc.

If you can’t get somebody suitable to open for, then the Cook college tour has a lot of merit, seems to me, because there you’re playing at places with a lot of people hungry to go out to see a show and who’ll therefore show up at the venue even if they weren’t a big fan of yours in the first place, most likely. When you’re at school, you want to go out, and you tend to take what you get! I would think that Adam is polarizing enough that a lot of students might pass up his show, though, so I doubt this option would work as well for him as it does for David.

Frankly, I don’t know that Adam has a lot of good options for a first tour that will actually bring in new fans. I think he should do small venues — 1000 seats would be tops, as far as I’m concerned — because I think he’s probably better seen in a full or nearly full house. But I suspect that, like Clay, he’ll mainly bring out the previously committed fans and nobody else, unless he gets some very serious radio play before the tour begins. And while that can work for you as a moneymaker for a few years, I don’t know that it does anything at all for your long-term viability. Fortunately, I think Adam has a pretty good shot at getting that serious radio play between now and spring, but only time will tell, obviously.

In the end, what he needs is radio radio radio, I think. The tour seems kind of immaterial to expanding his fan base, to me, unless he opens for somebody big whose fans would naturally take to him, and aside from Gaga I don’t know who that would be.

I would also like to see him open for another act. As much as I would love Adam as a solo act in a small venue, I think career wise, if he was matched up with the right act, it would help broaden his fan base and sell more albums. Good points being made about his big voice and persona, but I believe there are acts that would love to have him as the opening act, especially if it is a veteran act looking for a “new name” to spice things up. Christina A is a great choice, as I think those two would be perfect together. I would love to see Adam and Lady G, but I don’t see that happening….

Frankly, I don’t know that Adam has a lot of good options for a first tour that will actually bring in new fans. I think he should do small venues ‘” 1000 seats would be tops, as far as I’m concerned ‘” because I think he’s probably better seen in a full or nearly full house.

My take is that peoples’ recommendations for venue size are strongly influenced by the size of their own town. Maybe a venue of 1000 seats would work in a smallish city. But in a place like LA, NYC, Chicago, Philly, DC, Boston, etc, there’d be a lot of pissed off shut-out fans unless he played 3 or 4 dates. For the sake of his voice, it would be better to have fewer larger shows. Or instead, he would have more dates free to add more, different cities. Better to have enough room for the die-hard fans that buy tickets the minute they’re on sale and the casual fans who get around to buying when it’s convenient.

If Adam does a 1000 seat venue in the Chicago area MANY MANY people will be shut out. It must be larger in a large metropolitan area. People travel from all over the midwest to come to Chicago for concerts. Our local community college has an auditorium about that size and they sell out all the time with singers/entertainers/performers who aren’t even hot right now. And that’s our local community college!! I am sure Adam can rustle up at least 5,000 fans in the Chicago area–at a minimum–who will purchase tickets!!

cher–thanks for the Ticketmaster advice. Once a tour is announced, I’ll get registered with Ticketmaster so I can be one of the special people who is in on the presale.

I just checked the Chicago Theater website, and they have seating capacity for 3,600 people. This is where Lady Gaga is playing in January. I think this would be an appropriate size venue for Adam in the Chicago area. If the first event sells out, he could add another, which is exactly what Lady Gaga did. She is now playing for three nights.

Several posters have mentioned Adam touring with GaGa. But many many Adam fans I know do not like her and do not want him to tour with her. In fact in one interview Adam said he heard this too and doesn”t understand why not.

I’m not sure either. I do like GaGA, but I would really rather see Adam tour alone even if it’s in a small venue. No one seems to be selling out. Someone mentioned the Gridlock thing still has tickets available. Don’t know if it’s the economy or just music fatigue (not Adam fatigue). And yes, if his smaller shows should sell out they can always add others. They did this on the AI tour.

How many cities did David Cook do in his first tour? Will that be an indication of how many cities Adam will do?

I doubt that Adam’s tour will look much like Cook’s, though I do think you can take a cue from his run with regards to the size of venues that a popular Idol can realistically target with their first headlining tour. Carrie is the only Idol who can legitimately headline in arenas. Kelly and Daughtry are solidly in the 5000-7000 seat range (and Cook did fill some 5k seat theaters in the later legs of his tour, and obviously many of the festivals and fairs he played had huge audiences).

Here’s are Cook’s stats for reference. I did not include the Cook/Archuleta concert in Manila which had a reported attendance of 114,000, nor did I include a large private corporate gig for Arbonne that fell in the middle of the Declaration Tour:

Total shows: 152 (not including Manila or Arbonne)

Capacity range: 252 to 20,000
Average capacity: 2700
Total capacity: 410,415

Venue Type:

College: 44 shows (29%)
Club: 39 shows (26%)
Fair/Festival: 28 shows (18%)
Theater: 24 shows (16%)
Casino: 17 shows (11%)

Venue size:

250-600: 16 shows (11%)
600-1000: 22 shows (14%)
1,000-1,500: 39 shows (26%)
1,500-2,500: 38 shows (25%)
2,500-5,000: 10 shows (7%)
5,000-10,000: 19 shows (13%)
10,000-20,000: 8 shows (5%)

I just checked the Chicago Theater website, and they have seating capacity for 3,600 people. This is where Lady Gaga is playing in January. I think this would be an appropriate size venue for Adam in the Chicago area. If the first event sells out, he could add another, which is exactly what Lady Gaga did. She is now playing for three nights.KLI
12/18/2009 at 12:06 pm

Wow — would that be awesome, or what? I love the smaller venue idea. (Quite) a few years ago, I saw REM in concert in a rather small, historical, small town theater, and it was AMAZING. I had a balcony seat, but it really felt like I was being enveloped in the performance. There were enough of us in the crowd to feel like we were at a big name concert, but with the theatre style seating, there wasn’t a bad seat in the house. I really hope Adam goes this route, but I think it would be cool if he opened for other acts here and there, too. I mean, can he switch it up a bit and present himself both as a solo act in smaller venues and a supporting act here and there?

I am sure Adam can rustle up at least 5,000 fans in the Chicago area’“at a minimum’“who will purchase tickets!!

I would hope that’s true. But, honestly, in this economy, I have my doubts. I don’t know, but how many people actually are selling this many tickets nowadays?

I guess my concern with bigger venues is that I think the last thing you *ever* want is for anybody to hear and/or report that you have empty seats at your performance. You want every one that possibly can to look like a sellout so that that is what newspapers and public word-of-mouth report about you, I think. Plus, turning people away from your first concert makes them more motivated ticket-seekers the next time, I would bet.

I’m kind of torn about the tour thing. While I agree him headlining is where he should be based on his ability and charisma as a performer, I also like the idea of him opening for a more established act to build a bigger fanbase outside of AI, which is so important for him now.

I would hope that’s true. But, honestly, in this economy, I have my doubts. I don’t know, but how many people actually are selling this many tickets nowadays?

Well, depending on how many shows he plans to do, a concert in Chicago would likely attract fans from Wisconsin, Indiana and Michigan, as well. I don’t know how many of the fans at the Rosemont Idol tour concert this summer were specifically there to see Adam, but, based on the screaming and the amount of Adam merchandise I saw everywhere I looked, I’d say a fair number of them were Adam supporters.

Thank you for the stats, Ladymadonna

The Chicago Theater would be amazing—there is not a bad seat in the house. I have also seen groups play at the Auditorium Theater and The Metro. There would be lots of options; he might have to play two shows, though. I am torn. I really didn’t want Adam to open for anyone (he is all I am interested in seeing), but I can see how pairing him with the right act could be a huge boost in building his fan base. But, really, who would he open for?

ladymadonna I just have to say Wow you and Q3 are both so amazing at compiling stats. I just wanted to say thank you and your efforts are very much appreciated.

Just for clarification, a year long tour like Cook’s is not the usual for a performance type of artist. For Cook, his tour worked perfect for the type of entertainer he is. Small venues, intimate settings, and nothing extra…a man his guitar and his band. This type of tour is done a lot by country artists and smaller bands. Cook was taking the tour to the people.

Performance tours, just because of all the peripherals associated with it tend to be offered in major cities and with many fewer performances. No way is Adam going to be playing to a half million folks like the chart posted above said that Cook did. The tour would be way to expensive and their wouldn’t be any profit.

I still think that Adam will choose several large city centers and will limit his first tour to about 20 venues. And if they sell well he will have the option to perform more than once per venue. If not, he moves on to the next. He won’t be performing every night, maybe two or three times a week.

Tours really don’t “gain” you new fans, at least initially. It will be the core fanbase that will go to the first venues…and then, depending on how the marketing unfolds and the awareness factor more people down the line will be interested.

And again let me emphasize that the first concert I went to see the Rolling Stones there were about 500 people there (in the 60′s) and 40 years later I saw them at a Stadium concert when they had an audience of 80,000. Just like record sales touring is slow and steady.

I am sure Adam can rustle up at least 5,000 fans in the Chicago area’“at a minimum’“who will purchase tickets!!

I would hope that’s true. But, honestly, in this economy, I have my doubts. I don’t know, but how many people actually are selling this many tickets nowadays?

Actually, I misspoke, all he needs to rustle up in Chicago is 3,600 because the Chicago Theater is a perfect venue for him and that’s how many seats they have. He could get 3,600, couldn’t he? I would think so, but agreed, the economy is TERRIBLE.

I don’t know how many of the fans at the Rosemont Idol tour concert this summer were specifically there to see Adam, but, based on the screaming and the amount of Adam merchandise I saw everywhere I looked, I’d say a fair number of them were Adam supporters.

I live in Chicago but ended up going to the summer concert in Indianapolis because by the time I got around to buying tickets I couldn’t get good ones in Chicago, and it was on a school night. The Chicago show did very well and people do come to Chicago from all around the area for performances. I’d be shocked it he couldn’t sell out the Chicago Theater for at least one night even though the economy stinks. I work as a lawyer and get to look at the financials of a lot of people, and there are certainly people out there who have plenty of money available for entertainment if they are so inclined.

Tess,
“And again let me emphasize that the first concert I went to see the Rolling Stones there were about 500 people there (in the 60′s) and 40 years later I saw them at a Stadium concert when they had an audience of 80,000″
WOW, I AM SOOOOO JELLUS !!!

I think it’s probably going to be springtime. I’ve started talking to management about putting something together. I think it’s not going to be a standard arena tour. I think we’re going to do something a little different. My big goal is I want to create a show. I want to do something that’s very visually dynamic, and is a little more interactive feeling than your typical arena tour. So we’re looking at venues that are probably going to be a little smaller and a little more intimate.’ 

Yeah, like little known, out-of-the-way clubs.

Yeah, like little known, out-of-the-way clubs.
well, anything is good for an upstart artist, I say

“Yeah, like little known, out-of-the-way clubs.”
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Out-of-the-way is fine with me….just give me an address for my GPS and I’m good to go!!

In all seriousness, less than a year ago Adam was a pretty much unknown struggling artist. I’m sure he pinches himself daily to make sure this is all real. I bet he’ll be happy with any size venue he and his label decide on. He’s living his dream and that’s what it’s all about in the end.

tls62, – RIGHT????
he had never expected this kind of response so anything above his expectations is just great

So we’re looking at venues that are probably going to be a little smaller and a little more intimate.’ 

Honestly, I think a strong sold-out tour of smallish venues that lgets good reviews and word-of-mouth comment and leaves some people finding they can’t get a seat can set you up for a sold-out tour of bigger venues a year or so down the line. ….

Seems to me you have to play this pretty carefully, because you don’t want to leave behind you a string of newspaper, blog, and online notices about how you couldn’t half fill the venues you booked.

In all seriousness, less than a year ago Adam was a pretty much unknown struggling artist. I’m sure he pinches himself daily to make sure this is all real. I bet he’ll be happy with any size venue he and his label decide on. He’s living his dream and that’s what it’s all about in the end.

tls62 and agathe.hb: I so agree with both of you! So many of us (including the media) project superstardom upon his shoulders because we think he is so talented and charismatic, but I’ve never heard Adam say anywhere that superstardom is his goal, and he will be unhappy with anything less.

I think that if he is able to make a living doing what he loves and is able to have an outlet for performing and creating pop art and music in a way that is consistent with his vision, he’ll be perfectly satisfied.

He has an audience for what he wants to do now, so I think he’ll always have opportunities for performing.

I have just watched the SNL skit – and, you can call me wrong and I won’t take offence, but as like with Chelsea and Leno, this also has everything to do with his sexuality – I just feel so much for this guy, he has so f….ng much on his shoulder pads, even if it SEEMS to be friendly, it is STILL about his being gay, SHIT, yeah I said it!!!!!

Anyone have any info on how tickets to the Gridlock event are selling?

I agree it’s about everything to do with Adam’s sexuality. But did you notice the very very cool audience reaction to Leno’s bit? Maybe (doubtful) people don’t think it’s that funny anymore. Leno and his writers I hope have learned a lesson or two. Can’t wait for Monday night. We know ADam will be his wonderful,kind polite self, even if he’s hurting inside.

Yeah, the last Leno skit wasn’t as nice as the others he did, which I thought were much wittier.
In fact- in the first two- I thought Leno was actually showing that it’s just fun to play dress up and was happy Adam was giving him the opportunity to glam it up (when he dressed as Tommy, and then with the “Kiss” outfit).
But the last one was kind of lame… I second luval’s hope that he learned from the lukewarm response that it wasn’t funny…
I’m sure he and Adam will hit it off beautifully

Out-of-the-way is fine with me’ ¦.just give me an address for my GPS and I’m good to go!!

I hope you’re over 21 to be able to get into the kind of clubs I was talking about. And don’t forget your plastic raincoat so you don’t get peed on.

I have just watched the SNL skit ‘“ and, you can call me wrong and I won’t take offence, but as like with Chelsea and Leno, this also has everything to do with his sexuality ‘“ I just feel so much for this guy, he has so f’ ¦.ng much on his shoulder pads, even if it SEEMS to be friendly, it is STILL about his being gay, SHIT, yeah I said it!!!!!

If I was in his position, it would take all of my energy to to refrain from smacking everyone in the face who KEPT TALKING ABOUT my sexuality. And I think that the magazines ASK him to talk about his sexuality so that is why he is always talking about it. I suppose he could just say no more, but then he would be accused of being a diva or something like that. On a more fundamental level, maybe he is desensitizing the masses to the issue so the next openly gay celebrity doesn’t have to deal with it.

Seriously! Why should he have to have a sense of humor about his sexuality. It’s an immutable characteristic like race. I don’t think that Adam would even talk about it if people would stop asking him about it. It’s like he’s some sort of pet or freak show who people like to show off.

“He’s so gay, isn’t it cute. Let me show you how cool I am about it and make jokes.”

If they want to make fun of his look, his attitude, his eyeliner, his love of crazy fashion, go at it. He’s a public figure, he can take it and have a good sense of humor. Even the Leno mistletoe skit was cute, but the rest of it, GIVE IT A BREAK!!

OK, rant over.

ETA: Just to clarify, I’m not referring to anybody on the blog just the media generally.

Just a quick response. Most gay performers are known to get sexual questions and comments. It is too bad, but it can be controlled a bit.

If it bothers Adam, then he needs to not put sex out there. His style is to put it right out there so of course people will comment about it.

I honestly don’t think it bothers Adam. Of course, I could be wrong.

It is sad that gays are the butt of so many jokes. The world will be a better place when that stops!

any updates about NYE being televised?

Out-of-the-way is fine with me’ ¦.just give me an address for my GPS and I’m good to go!!

I hope you’re over 21 to be able to get into the kind of clubs I was talking about. And don’t forget your plastic raincoat so you don’t get peed on.

I seriously doubt Adam would limit himself to those kind of clubs if he has any intention of expanding his fanbase. If he wants to be a niche artist that caters to OTT behaviour then cool. If not, I daresay we’ll see him in around 1000 seat venues where college kids can get in.

well, what about sexual female performers??? do they get to be the butt of the jokes? do people joke (condescendingly) about girls kissing girls? it just bothers me so much, not for this site, sorry

Jim Cantiello just posted up a couple of outtakes interviews with Adam and Kris from the Jingle Ball..to funny.! Kesha wants to have a glambaby with Adam..LOL!

http://newsroom.mtv.com/2009/12/18/adam-lambert-kris-allen-outtakes/

joanie, are you talking about the gay club Adam went to and the drag queen sprayed liquid on them, pretending to pee? IT WAS A JOKE
I have many gay friends, they are the most vurnerable and honest and sincere people I know, I would really like to wake up in the future, where everybody is really equal