Jason Derulo to Perform on Wednesday’s Top 9 Results Show (Plus David Archuleta will Perform ‘Imagine’)

UPDATE: David Archuleta will sing “Imagine” on Wednesday’s results show, according to American Idol.com HERE.  Jason Derulo will sing his hit, “In My Head”.

“Imagine” is not a Lennon/McCartney song, but whatevs.

According to Jason Derulo’s Facebook, he’ll perform on Wednesday’s results show.  Read it HERE. Kara DioGuardi helped put Derulo’s deal together for Warner Brothers–he calls Kara his baby mama. Ha.

“I’m performing on American Idol on Wed.. Tune in! it’s gonna something special.. I start rehearsals today!!!”

Rihanna is also scheduled to perform “Te Amo”.

Plus, an Idol alum will be on hand to sing a song from the Lennon/McCartney songbook. The Idol alum is a secret right now, but Fred Bronson from @IdolsNow left some clues on twitter last night:

Hint 1: The Idol is Male
Hint 2: Not from season 1 or 3.
Hint 3: He’s been watching American Idol since Season 1.
Hint 4: He’s been interviewed by IdolsNow’s Fred Bronson.
Hint 5: He has at least two vowels in his last name (maybe more).
Hint 6: He has either a first or last name that has an “A” as the first or second letter.

New hint:

Hint 7: This person has had more than one #1 on the Billboard charts, less than 12 (counting ALL Billboard charts).

My guess is David Archuleta

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213 Comments

  1. my bet is Clay Aiken.. he watched American Idol season 1 and has since.. plus it says not in season 1 or 3, leaving out the 2.. which seems kinda suspicious to me.. so I bet Clay Aiken.. Ruben was last week and it would make sense to have him, for he is about to go on tour

  2. DavidArchie Home is grand. It’s always nice to be home :) about 1 hour ago via web

    Unless he’s lying to throw us all off, or unless he’s putting something together at the last minute with little rehearsal, it can’t be him.

  3. It could still be Archie. Planes still fly, you now. LOL

    Still, thematically, no one is an easy fit here. Archie has a moment singing “Imagine” so it kinda sorta works. I can’t think of anyone who is trying to make Beatles style music except maybe Jason… but I don’t think he watched Idol from the start. Clay is coming out with a standards album, right? Cook and Rueben fit their theme weeks pretty well, I’m not sure who really works with this one in the same way.

  4. I’m guessing Clay also. He sang a Beatles song during Season 2.

    What I don’t understand is the need to be coy about it. Wouldn’t the fans of the Mystery Idolette be more likely to watch if they knew who was going to be on?

  5. DavidArchie Home is grand. It’s always nice to be home :) about 1 hour ago via web

    Unless he’s lying to throw us all off, or unless he’s putting something together at the last minute with little rehearsal, it can’t be him.

    You do realize it only takes 2 hours to get from SLC to LA by plane right?

  6. Unless he’s lying to throw us all off, or unless he’s putting something together at the last minute with little rehearsal, it can’t be him.

    Well, Archie didn’t actually say he was home. He just said it’s a nice place to be. ;)

    Besides, he could easily fly from Salt Lake City to LA this evening and have all day tomorrow and much of the day Wednesday to rehearse.

  7. The nice thing about David doing it is that he could just use the acoustic guitar like he did on idol– no big production. I am not familiar with what Clay did or what Jason did for his beatles night. Both of those two have albums coming out soon, so that would make sense to me.

  8. i would also say Clay Aiken…he is promoting his tour with Studdard..does Archie have anything new to promote?..not that he needs anything…i just think Clay fits better this week.

  9. I think it’s Clay. “Not from season 1 or 3” clue is a hint that it’s someone from season 2.

    So, last week they brought back Ruben and this week Clay. I think AI is trying to tell the viewers and season 9 contestants something… I guess Clay will give the best Idol performance of this week. I’m already looking forward to it.

  10. First name that comes to mind is Amanda Overmyer. Except he’s really a female apparently.

    Judging by the letter clues (first or last name starts with A or has A as a second letter, 2+ vowels):
    S2: Clay Aiken
    S4: Anthony Federov, Scott Savol, Anwar Robinson
    S5: Elliott Yamin, Chris Daughtry,
    S6: Sanjaya Malakar (Judging by the past few mentors, I think he has a good chance)
    S7: Davids (all 3), Jason Castro
    S8: Danny Gokey, Adam Lambert, Kris Allen, Matt Giraud, Anoop Desai, Michael Sarver

    Way to narrow it down for Season 8, guys. Am I missing anyone or adding someone who shouldn’t be there? Also, removing the “A as a second letter” thing would defeat a lot of these. Also, no idea who’s been interviewed by Bronson.

    American Idol has been grasping for straws so of course Sanjaya has a chance (Tim, Ke$ha, Miley, Demi, and Joe Jonas. Why the hell not add Sanjaya to the pool of suck?). Adam Lambert would give ratings, as would Kris Allen (who is also a Beatles fan). However, Kris hasn’t watched the show since Season 1, so he’s not it.

    David Archuleta is the only contestant I can think of with a link to Season 1. Didn’t Clay Aiken also say he didn’t watch last year or something to that effect because Adam Lambert turned him off?

    Also, I really do like Jason Derulo’s song “In My Head”. Aside from the pretentious “Jason Derulo” namecheck thing in the beginning, it’s a pretty cool song. Kinda R&B-ish with a tiny bit of a rock flair.

  11. justantonio- David is working on his new album and will soon have a new single. It could be ready… He also has his book coming out around June 1st.

    It will be interesting to see who it is, but since Clay has an album coming out immediately, I wouldn’t be surprised.

  12. justantonio- David is working on his new album and will soon have a new single. It could be ready… He also has his book coming out around June 1st.

    Plus, there is zero financial incentive for 19 to have Clay on the show. Archie isn’t managed by 19, but he is signed to 19r.

  13. Plus, there is zero financial incentive for 19 to have Clay on the show. Archie isn’t managed by 19, but he is signed to 19r.

    Yeah, this.

  14. Acccording to Jason Derulo’s Facebook, he’ll perform on Wednesday’s results show

    Bonus: Ryan won’t have to introduce him since Jason always quavers “Jason Derulo” at the start of his songs.

    I think the mystery Idol is Archie too.

  15. It will be interesting to see who it is, but since Clay has an album coming out immediately, I wouldn’t be surprised.

    Clay A album date release is June 1, so not too immediately, but is an album of covers from the 60’s i guess, so a Beatles cover single can fit in the show this week . My second guess is David. In both cases i don’t get the mystery around the performance.
    BTW do you think Kara gonna sing with Jason D this week ?

  16. Has anyone else heard a rumor of an Idol mentoring Top 8 week?.

    People have been requesting this for years. I think it would be fun.

    They could totally have a fan meltdown by making the theme “Songs from Idols”. LOL. Or narrow it down to “#1s by Idols”. Oh, it would be epic. The new Idols would have to sing songs from previous favs, the songs would be relatively new to the Idol stage (having perhaps only have been sung by the original Idol, though a few of Kelly’s and Carrie’s have been sung over the years) and Simon could caustically comment that the song was better/worse by the original (depending on how much he hates the original Idol).

    Hahaha. Oh, the trainwreck, it would be amazing to behold.

    Still, I would like to see an Idol as a mentor. They have a unique perspective on this show and many have displayed some masterful strategy over the years.

  17. Why so mysterious people… *facepalm*

    No mystery why they are being so secretive about the guest performer. It’s because the Idol producers are stupid. I think that once you accept this as a first principle, i.e. Idol producers are stupid, it is very easy to understand all the whacky decisions made throughout the year.

  18. My friend (who has been very reliable over the years) said he just got the official word from the label that Adam is mentoring top 8.

  19. Hahaha. Oh, the trainwreck, it would be amazing to behold.

    I do like me a good trainwreck!

  20. My friend (who has been very reliable over the years) said he just got the official word from the label that Adam is mentoring top 8.

    Hmmm, that is funny because it contradicts what I’ve been hearing about Juanita Barber being the returning contestant to mentor, it is going to be childrens song themed.

  21. My friend (who has been very reliable over the years) said he just got the official word from the label that Adam is mentoring top 8.

    That would be a dream come true for me,but Adam says he diesnnt think he’s ready to mentor

  22. My friend (who has been very reliable over the years) said he just got the official word from the label that Adam is mentoring top 8.

    LOL. I can just imagine the flames that will eminate from that train wreck. Awesome.

    Never let up on the pimping PTB. It is why we love you so.

    Devoted fans of every winner there ever was (and every Idol that has had a hit album or song) will quiver with rage. MJ, if true, better go get the Costco size of Extra Strengh Tylenol, babe, you are going to need it.

  23. MJ, if true, better go get the Costco size of Extra Strengh Tylenol, babe, you are going to need it.

    lol, Kristin

  24. I think everyone is missing the point of the hints of a former Idol performing Wednesday, lol. No matter who it is, it means no cheesy groups lip-sync sing this week, yay!!!!

    I loved the group sings in season 7, in all their cheesy glory, because at least the Idols were singing, lol. Besides the sheer silliness of it all, it gave me another chance to judge their voices, in a less structured setting. I read/heard an interview with David Cook last year, when Idol first started with the lip-syncing, and the backing tracks (remember, they didn’t have a live band in the semis last year?) asking him if the kids in his season used a backing track and/or lip synced. He said they had pre-recorded background vocals, to give the sound more heft, but that everyone sang their own parts on top of that, live. No lip syncing. Idol, you’re supposed to get better every year, not back slide, lol!

    ETA: I saw Jason Derulo perform on Ellen a couple weeks ago, and it was terrible. Could be I just don’t like that kind of music, but Idol has really gone the other way from having old fuddy duddy performers who could actually sing and had successful careers on results night, to now having no-talent young up and coming whippersnappers on every week. *Stands in doorway, shakes fist and shouts Get Off My Lawn!* ;)

  25. Hmmm, that is funny because it contradicts what I’ve been hearing about Juanita Barber being the returning contestant to mentor, it is going to be childrens song themed.

    Bwah! Epic. What about the chill-ren? I think Katie Stevens, Mike Lynche, and Tim Urban would do particularly well under Juanita’s tutelage.

  26. Devoted fans of every winner there ever was (and every Idol that has had a hit album or song will quiver with rage).

    haha my friend posted it on his twitter and well he isnt that happy, as a certain original winner is his fav.

  27. haha my friend posted it on his twitter and well he isnt that happy, as a certain original winner is his fav.

    twitter is always most reliable. I look to it for my lottery numbers.

  28. Well i’ve known this person for many years. Thats why i posted the info, if it was from some random account i would never of posted it.

  29. LOL. I can just imagine the flames that will eminate from that train wreck. Awesome.

    Never let up on the pimping PTB. It is why we love you so.

    Devoted fans of every winner there ever was (and every Idol that has had a hit album or song) will quiver with rage. MJ, if true, better go get the Costco size of Extra Strengh Tylenol, babe, you are going to need it.

    I would seek shelter in a bomb shelter. lol

  30. Idolsnow:
    People keep asking for hints. OK. This person has had more than one #1 on the Billboard charts, less than 12(counting ALL Billboard charts).

    Btw this hint still fits David. lol

  31. Has anyone else heard a rumor of an Idol mentoring Top 8 week?

    Actually yes, someone just reported on a fan board that a DJ from a local radio station was saying Adam would mentor… but no one believed it since Adam himself responded in live chat recently that that was not on the table.

  32. Well maybe things changed, who knows. I guess we will find out next week.

  33. ADAM MENTORING??????!!!!!! Oh.my.word. hahaha!! That should be good.
    I reaaaaaaaaaally hope Archie’s performing i want to see that sweet face on my TV <3 lol :D
    -DarkGlamour17

  34. My friend (who has been very reliable over the years) said he just got the official word from the label that Adam is mentoring top 8.

    as great as I think that would be, I cannot imagine that will happen. And I believe that Adam himself has already denied that he was going to be a mentor.

  35. Actually yes, someone just reported on a fan board that a DJ from a local radio station was saying Adam would mentor… but no one believed it since Adam himself responded in live chat recently that that was not on the table.

    There may be some question of when Adam could mentor. He’s performing in casinos in Canada on the 8th and 9th, which would mean he probably wouldn’t be back in LA until Saturday, the 10th. Then he has a performance at the GLAAD Media Awards show on

  36. Hmmm, that is funny because it contradicts what I’ve been hearing about Juanita Barber being the returning contestant to mentor, it is going to be childrens song themed.

    They funniest thing I’ve read all week. EPIC!

    Its looking more and more like D’Arch. Outside shot on Clay.

    Adam mentoring would cause me to live on the internet for a week, wacthing the resulting implosion on all AI related websites. Please god, let it be true!

  37. Adam mentoring would cause me to live on the internet for a week, wacthing the resulting implosion on all AI related websites. Please god, let it be true!

    I would go off my diet just to eat a big bowl of greasy buttery popcorn and watch.

  38. Adam mentoring would cause me to live on the internet for a week, wacthing the resulting implosion on all AI related websites. Please god, let it be true!

    If I were him, I would stick my head in the sand just thinking about it… :grin: It’s like declaring war on the internet.

  39. Actually yes, someone just reported on a fan board that a DJ from a local radio station was saying Adam would mentor… but no one believed it since Adam himself responded in live chat recently that that was not on the table.

    There may be some question of whether Adam would have time to mentor and perform on results night next week. He’s performing in casinos in Canada on the 8th and 9th, which would mean he probably wouldn’t be back in LA until Saturday, the 10th. Then he has a performance at the GLAAD Media Awards show on the 17th, which would likely require rehearsal time for at least a few days prior. So no time for him to mentor later this week and probably very little free time next week.

  40. I find this whole “mystery” build-up a bit weird. I’m sorry. Whoever it is, we’re just talking about a former Idol. It’s not like we’re getting a surprise appearance from Sir Paul, himself.

    Edit: So, while I was posting, frogcooke posted the twit that officially announced the “big mystery guest” is Archie.

  41. So no time for him to mentor this week and probably very little free time next week.

    Eh. They spend like 5 minutes with each kid. Give him an hour to get the entire thing in the can.

    I would go off my diet just to eat a big bowl of greasy buttery popcorn and watch.

    MJ better get the drink cart set up because we’ll be needing some Mai Tais!

  42. Archie will reprise “Imagine”

    My theory, the hooked him into singing that.

  43. I am rubbing my genie lamp for Archie, but with my luck it’s all freaking rusty, so I will Clay, lol. Or Scott Savol….my luck sucks..

    Adam mentoring would make great television, but bad idol karma, so ixnay on that please

    ETA: saw Mj’s addition, my luck is changing, lol.

  44. Jees….can’t they have him perform a different song? It’s like a re-run.

    Sorry, I love Adam to death, but no way should he mentor. I mean seriously, he has one bomb on radio and another one that is a decent hit but by no way huge…and he’s gonna mentor??? I’m not buying it. And sorry…..he’s not successful enough yet IMO.

    ETA: Don’t get me wrong…I still think he will be a mega superstar but it’s too early for mentoring on Idol.

    ETA: Upon further reflection I’ve changed my mind. Even though I still don’t think he’s successful enough, if it gets him on my TV, I’m all for it! Plus, I think he’d give good advice and he’s said nothing but positive stuff about Idol. So like all things Adam, seems I just needed some time to adjust to the idea lol

  45. MJ better get the drink cart set up because we’ll be needing some Mai Tais!

    *SOB*

    Jees….can’t they have him perform a different song? It’s like a re-run.

    “Imagine” isn’t a Lennon/McCartney song. I suppose TPTB figure no one will know the difference.

  46. “Imagine” isn’t a Lennon/McCartney song. I suppose TPTB figure no one will know the difference.

    First rule of thumb, TPTB are stupid. Therefore think we are stupid.

  47. “Imagine” isn’t a Lennon/McCartney song

    You did say you would know!! :-)

  48. Ha on the Adam mentoring. He said that was not true, but it would be fun just because of the fan wars.

    Only way it might work is if the theme was theater or show tunes. He does have many years experience with that.

    I’m excited to see Archie again, but why oh why can he not sing another song.

  49. Yay Archie!

    Boo Imagine! He sings it beautifully, but it would be his third time doing it!

    Oh well. Being on the same show was Jason Derulo and Rhiana has got to be a good deal for him, since I would imagine (no pun intended!) that he would be trying to appeal to their audience with his new stuff.

    *SOB*

    I almost feel a little guilty mj. Almost. I’m still gonna love every minute of it though. :) **blows kiss**

  50. Though I’m guessing it may go up for charity like Kris and Cook. In which case its a good song for that.

    As long as they dont make him sing the abbreviated version and let him sing the full one.

  51. he has one bomb on radio and another one that is a decent hit but by no way huge…

    Whilst I agree with most of what you are saying, a bomb on radio is only the fault of radio (and in this instance the antiquated attitude of American radio – funny how radio stations in other countries have no problem whatsoever playing that song) and a single that is near platinum and still selling in substantial weekly quantities is hardly something that many artists achieve.

    That said, the role of mentor for me should be someone established in the medium to long term. Miley Cyrus for all her success was a ridiculous choice of mentor.

  52. never thought he’d be singing ‘imagine’ on the idol stage again, but whatevs – bring it on david :lol:

  53. lol, I was thinking Archie even before I read all the clues…was really hoping it wasn’t Clay…
    Being a Glambert, I would *love* it if Adam mentored, cuz I think he would be good at giving advice, but I don’t think they would have him since it was only a year ago he was in the same position. But I would be interested to know what he thinks about everyone this year. Even if they did ask him I’m not really sure he would agree to something like that.

  54. you know what I’d love??? forget about the mentoring.. how about a few of the AI alumni having dinner with the contestants? One hours worth of time and they could tape the contestants asking questions. Now THAT would be interesting.

    ETA: As I think about this.. I think any of the winners or runner up would make great mentors. We know there is more to the show than just sounding pretty on stage. Any of them with a confident voice could guide them. If Miley can do it, any of our alums can do it as well.

  55. I’m glad to hear the mystery guest is David. It will be great to see him back on the AI stage again. Yay!

    never thought he’d be singing ‘imagine’ on the idol stage again, but whatevs – bring it on david

    He’ll show them how to do a Beatles song justice. I’m game too! :)

  56. urghhh .. Imagine is one song that I don’t think anyone other than Lennon himself can perform properly .. they had 16 year old eggnog sing it on the X Factor a couple of years ago .. but I guess as a Brit I’m a bit protective of some of the Lennon (and L&M songs)

    I have no probs with Archie appearing, just with they’d given him a different song to sing, it seems lazy and “unimaginative” of Idol to have people singing the same old songs when they guest .. I’d feel the same way if they had Adam back and got him to sing Mad World when there are so many other songs to be sung

  57. I have no doubt that TPTB told him he had to sing Imagine. They don’t want him to go out there and be his spectacular self on anything new and undermine their AI9 people any more than necessary (live even). They like to be in control of their non-19M performers. However, even though I won’t get to hear him do something else, hopefully he can mention his book or his soon-to-be-released single/cd. Also, if Rhianna is there in person, he can hang out with her. (Remember he performed at the 2008 Z100 Jingle Ball with Rihanna).

  58. I have no doubt that TPTB told him he had to sing Imagine.

    Simon can’t get S9 to give him a “MOMENT” so he has to dig one up from the past. LOL

  59. http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2010/04/american-idol-mystery-solved-david-archuleta-rihanna-to-perform.html

    When a few hints were dropped by an “American Idol” insider earlier today, Zap2it’s “Idol” fans investigated who the “mystery performer” would be on the Wednesday (April 7) results show. Now, the official American Idol site has confirmed that David Archuleta will appear.

    Archie’s rendition of John Lennon’s “Imagine” secured his position as a top contender during Season 7, so we’re looking forward to him reprising his performance in honor of the Lennon/McCartney themed week.

    Two weeks ago, Archie’s friend and competitor David Cook took the stage to show the current idols how to rock a Rolling Stones song. We’re sure Archie has a few things to teach the current Top 9 contestants, too.

    In addition to Archuleta, Rihanna will perform her latest single “Te Amo.” Jason Derulo will sing “In My Head” off his self-titled debut album.

  60. Anyone want to speculate on whether the ratings will take a nice Archujump on Wed night (compared to past Wed. nights this year)?

  61. not gonna begin to speculate cmom… this season is so bad that nothing is a guarantee anymore, lol…

  62. Simon can get S9 to give him a “MOMENT” so he has to dig one up from the past. LOL

    OOOHHHHHHH SNAP!!!!! *high five*

  63. American Idol article says they will be taking on the songs of John Lennon and Paul McCartney. I hope David can sing @ least two verses like he did@ Ford day. I’m sure they asked him to sing Imagine specifically. If he is allowed to sing a longer version that will be different than he did on the show. I’m sure he looks @ it as a chance to deliver a message. Hope he gets to sing one of his new songs later in the season. Anxious for the new CD as I think he has recorded enough songs if accepted.

  64. Always glad to see Archuleta, but really, Imagine? He’s got so much stronger material now. It’s like being pulled out in the living room and being told “Sing for Grandma!” They just see him as the wonder kid.

  65. i don’t care how ‘they’ see him… 20 million people will see him again, and that makes a lot of people very, very happy :D

  66. Too bad Archie is singing something other than Imagine. Does he still leave out the verse about “imagine there’s no Heaven” when he sings this?

    Also, did you guys see the rumor on twitter (started by some DJ) that Adam will be next week’s mentor?

  67. girlygirl:
    04/05/2010 at 7:59 pm
    Also, did you guys see the rumor on twitter (started by some DJ) that Adam will be next week’s mentor?

    LOL ya. The guy seems to have some anger issues. LOL

  68. he actually sang the full version at the ford day appearance w/cook in 2008, so there is no problem with him being able to sing the full song – 1st verse and all. not that it should be a concern, because singing the 1st verse or not took nothing away from the beauty and power of the song the previous times he sang it. i hope he does sing the whole song, just to be able to hear it sung, in this setting, in his voice, for the 1st time. :D

  69. Has Archie had any songs on the charts? I wish it was Adam instead. Ah well.

  70. Too bad Archie is singing something other than Imagine. Does he still leave out the verse about “imagine there’s no Heaven” when he sings this?

    No, he sings it.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdzFjNNuWPg

    Actually I think why he didnt sing that verse on idol is because people get too hung up on the whole ‘no heaven’ thing.

  71. Awesome. Just awesome. I am delighted that Archie is coming back to Idol on Wednesday. Yay! Go Archie.

  72. Always glad to see Archuleta, but really, Imagine? He’s got so much stronger material now.

    Lol, NOTHING David has recorded is better material than Imagine.

  73. Has Archie had any songs on the charts? I wish it was Adam instead. Ah well.

    keeping watching and waiting, lol… he will have a single and cd released this year… adam will be on idol pretty soon as well, he just has to wait his turn – win/win for them all… :D

  74. Has Archie had any songs on the charts? I wish it was Adam instead. Ah well.

    Ummm… yes… lol

  75. Are they doing any promotion for Archie’s appearance? If I hadn’t read it here, I’m not sure I’d know. You’d think with all the bad press this season is getting, they’d be shouting to the rooftops the performances on Idol. Not just the former Idols, but I haven’t seen anything about Rhianna or DeRulo on tv, although I did hear Ryan mention Rhianna today. This goes for the whole season..

  76. Is there a record for how many times one song has been sung by the same person on American Idol?

  77. Are they doing any promotion for Archie’s appearance? If I hadn’t read it here, I’m not sure I’d know. You’d think with all the bad press this season is getting, they’d be shouting to the rooftops the performances on Idol. Not just the former Idols, but I haven’t seen anything about Rhianna or DeRulo on tv, although I did hear Ryan mention Rhianna today. This goes for the whole season..

    this is david archuleta, lol… idol hasn’t gone out of their way in the past to promote him, so i don’t see them changing their modus operandi now, lol… rest assured the twitterverse and other social media is attuned to the announcement, and word is spreading… like always, david seems to succeed not because of idol promo, but in spite of it, lol…

  78. Is there a record for how many times one song has been sung by the same person on American Idol?

    we may have one now – a new precedent :D

  79. Is there a record for how many times one song has been sung by the same person on American Idol?

    lol good question…

    Are they doing any promotion for Archie’s appearance? If I hadn’t read it here, I’m not sure I’d know. You’d think with all the bad press this season is getting, they’d be shouting to the rooftops the performances on Idol. Not just the former Idols, but I haven’t seen anything about Rhianna or DeRulo on tv, although I did hear Ryan mention Rhianna today. This goes for the whole season..

    They are probably trying to avoid bringing too much attention to the fact this year sucks.

  80. Rihanna won’t be the only star showing the American Idol stage a little love this week.

    American Idol season 7 runner-up, David Archuleta, will take the stage this Wednesday (April 7) during the results show. He’ll perform his rendition of the John Lennon classic, Imagine, to go along with this week’s Lennon/McCartney songbook theme week.

    Also joining Archie and Rihanna during a packed night of performances will be newcomer Jason Derulo. He’ll tackle his latest single, the upbeat pop tune In My Head.

    http://neonlimelight.com/2010/04/05/david-archuleta-returning-to-american-idol-for-imagine-performance/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+NeonLimelight+%28%2F%2FNeon+Limelight%2F%2F%29&utm_content=Twitter

  81. They are probably trying to avoid bringing too much attention to the fact this year sucks.

    Good point, good point…

  82. The dude is pretty insistent about Adam mentoring:

    http://twitter.com/iowaradioguy

    This guy appears to be a nobody. He claims he was informed in email, but didn’t keep the email…m’kay. He is getting exactly what he wanted with all this twitter attention.

  83. Rihanna, David Archuleta, Jason Derulo To Perform On ‘American Idol’
    Archuleta will reprise his breakout performance of ‘Imagine’ for Lennon/McCartney week.

    By Shawn Adler

    For the second time in three years, “American Idol” contestants are taking on the works of John Lennon and Paul McCartney. This time, they’re doing it with a little help from their friends.

    Fox announced Monday (April 5) that this week’s results program, airing Wednesday at 9 p.m. ET, will feature performances by Rihanna, singing “Te Amo”; Jason Derülo, singing “In My Head”; and season-seven runner-up David Archuleta, performing Lennon’s “Imagine.”

    http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1635475/20100405/rihanna.jhtml

  84. Studio57:
    04/05/2010 at 8:09 pm
    The dude is pretty insistent about Adam mentoring:

    http://twitter.com/iowaradioguy

    Looks like some people were calling him out on his anger issues. LOL The dude is probably right (IF this is true) that it is a ploy by TPTB for ratings.

    Anyway.. IF it is true, which I’m not convinced it is… it can be spun a few ways without stomping on the *He’s not a legit artist*. People may dislike Adam as a recording artist & performer, but IMO he can and doesn’t come off as a know it all.

    I really don’t want to avoid the internet for a week.. so I hope this isn’t true.

    ETA: gangreen29 – I completely agree about the email. Who deletes emails these days. LOL I have like 2 or 3K of undeleted email sitting in my inbox.

  85. They are probably trying to avoid bringing too much attention to the fact this year sucks.

    haha

  86. When is Adam scheduled to perform on Idol?

    Yay Archie! Not really watching the results shows this season, but I will have to catch Archie. I like some of Jason Derulo and Rihanna’s stuff on the radio, but they’re usually not the best live. Actually Rihanna could be fun to watch, sometimes.

  87. LOL I have like 2 or 3K of undeleted email sitting in my inbox.

    Pffttttt… I have like 5k plus.

  88. Is there a record for how many times one song has been sung by the same person on American Idol?

    I think Norman Gentle sang “I’m not Leaving” 4 times. I know that Fantasia did “Summertime” at least three times (original performance, some interview show with Ryan near the end of the season and the final 2 performance night).

    Didn’t Adam’s “Mad World” get shown three times (performance night, results night because of the over-run and finale)?

  89. One radio guy in Iowa is the only person spilling the beans? I find that hard to believe and you’d think TPTB would tell him to STFU if were true and if they wanted a big ‘LIVE ON IDOL NEXT WEEK’ announcement.
    I can see it now. ‘LIVE.. ADAM LIVE, DID WE SAY LIVE?’ lol

    Maybe 400k people can tweet Adam about it and he can play rumor control again, lol

    I think I’ll just be skeptical of this dude for now. But if true, think they’ll drag up Broadway week for Adam to mentor?

    ETA: not that I don’t think he’ll be on next week doing WWFM, I’m just leery of the mentoring part.

  90. Well he’s not backing off his claim and he does seem to legitimately be a radio dj. But if it’s true, he should have kept the email. (I just deleted a bunch of work emails I’d held on to for 2-3 years — and only because it was taking up too much space on my computer — I couldn’t find anything anymore)

  91. AH!!!! I CAN’T WAIT TO SEE DAVID PERFORM!!! *squeals* :) :) :) (and yes i’m under 21)

  92. Well he’s not backing off his claim and he does seem to legitimately be a radio dj. But if it’s true, he should have kept the email. (I just deleted a bunch of work emails I’d held on to for 2-3 years — and only because it was taking up too much space on my computer — I couldn’t find anything anymore)

    I say there is a 50-50 chance. Maybe the email was confidential so he couldn’t show it and it was easier to say he deleted it? Who knows. The explosion on the various AI sites will be intense if it is true. It definetly will bring some excitement to the season.

    To be honest, the weeks they can’t get a mentor, I don’t see why the don’t let former idols and finalists fill in. If Adam is mentoring, perhaps he can help Siobhan with her vocal control.

  93. Yay for Archie! I remember just a few weeks ago when people found out Cook would be singing a RS song on RS week some people thought he was classless. I wonder if they’d still argue that this week with Archie. They didn’t argue it with Ruben on R&B week. I hope Archie sings Imagine. I remember that performance like it was yesterday. (/ramble)

  94. Well he’s not backing off his claim and he does seem to legitimately be a radio dj.

    He doesn’t seem to be a legitimate DJ to me. His twitter doesn’t link to any radio websites, just some site where people’s tweets are posted and favorited.

  95. Good news to hear about Archie being on AI and singing Imagine. Anxious to see. I’m wondering now about his hair. Will it be in a new style? Last I heard it was trimmed some but he was still growing it out. Hope the style will be becomming to him. (OR will he chicken out and have it cut at the last minute? lol.)

  96. undercooked- I agree- how many years have we all bitched and moaned about the mentors like Neil Sedaka and Barry Manilow? Most big acts today would kill to perform on idol but probably don”t have the time or care to mentor. But a formal idol would do it for TPTB that got them their start. Who would know better what these kids are going through and who better to tell them how to loosen up? Adam is a very articulate spokeperson and has scraped for years in Hollywood trying to be discovered. It is not so far fetched.

    This dj might be FOS but it IS kind of odd that he latched on to the one date we had all pinpointed for Adam to appear on idol.

  97. While I’d like to see Adam on both nights, I can’t be the only one thinking this is a bad thing, right? I’m sure he’d be a fine mentor, but only one year off the show? Maybe not, shrugs… it perpetuates fanwars, but on the other hand, only Idol fans are watching so I guess it really doesn’t matter if S8 fanwars are perpetuated. TPTB don’t care, as long as people watch.

    It’s not like Kris won’t be on probably twice again this season, but like someone said upthread, I may have to stay off the internet for a week. It’s too much *facepalm* for me. It’s tough liking both guys!

    (and I’m sure other fans will want S7 as mentors, etc..)

    I would like other idols to mentor, have there been any before?

  98. To be honest, the weeks they can’t get a mentor, I don’t see why the don’t let former idols and finalists fill in. If Adam is mentoring, perhaps he can help Siobhan with her vocal control.

    I don’t think it is at all true, but I don’t think it would be a bad thing. I do think past contestants could help those on the show. I don’t think it will actually be a lot of drama either if Adam does. I don’t consider it a slight at all to Kelly or Carrie, I don’t think they have been sitting around hoping an invitation to mentor on idol would come along, it would probably be that Adam was just available.

  99. JudyOhio- I think he got his hair cut and textured. It will be interesting to see what it looks like.

  100. yey! archie… i am happy to see him again on tv.

    but i realized yesterday, the TPTB are really a major fail… pick a theme night that was done so awesome by the season 7 crew, then invite back a season 7 runner up to sing a song that he slayed and one of the biggest moment of the same season.

    i remember jim cantiello’s tweet when david cook performed on the top 12 result show:

    @jambajim: Judging from this intense opening, I’m fairly certain “Idol” isn’t just going to eliminate a singer tonight. They’re going to EXECUTE them.

    and yeah, TPTB are seriously punishing this group.

    ETA: but anyhows, i’m excited to see archie.

  101. Seventh season runner David Archuleta is returning to American Idol on Wednesday night’s results show, as one of the guest performers.

    Since we’ll be tackling (again) the Lennon/McCartney songbook next week, there’s no perfect person to tackle that than Archuleta, who performed two Beatles songs during his run on the show: “We Can Work It Out” on Top 12 week and “The Long and Winding Road” on Top 11 week. This Wednesday, he’ll be performing John Lennon’s classic “Imagine”–a song he also performed during the season 7 semifinals.

    Also performing on Wednesday night: Rihanna, who will perform her latest single “Te Amo”, and Jason Derulo, who will do “In My Head”. I guess that means we won’t have another group routine–thankfully, you might say.

    http://www.buddytv.com/articles/american-idol/david-archuleta-returns-to-ido-35690.aspx

  102. I don’t think Adam being a mentor is that far fetched.
    Simon Fuller has every right & rea$on to pimp his show & his artist, it would be a win-win for him…seems like a no brainer to me. :)

  103. Yay for Archie! I remember just a few weeks ago when people found out Cook would be singing a RS song on RS week some people thought he was classless. I wonder if they’d still argue that this week with Archie. They didn’t argue it with Ruben on R&B week.

    I remember that! Haha, yes, David Cook, David Archuleta, and Ruben Studdard, such CLASSLESS GUYS, all three of them, LMAO.

  104. I don’t consider it a slight at all to Kelly or Carrie, I don’t think they have been sitting around hoping an invitation to mentor on idol would come along, it would probably be that Adam was just available.

    ITA – what is important is performing your single on Wednesday. Mentoring is just that mentoring. If Adam mentored without performing, I don’t think it would do much for his sales. If it is true, perhaps the mentor they had lined up cancelled. It would make sense to have the former contestant’s POV episode in a crunch.

  105. Like I said I don’t think Adam should mentor. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to see him on the show but he’s still new. The POV (I know what you are going through) angle could work, I guess.

  106. Yay for Archie! I remember just a few weeks ago when people found out Cook would be singing a RS song on RS week some people thought he was classless. I wonder if they’d still argue that this week with Archie. They didn’t argue it with Ruben on R&B week. I hope Archie sings Imagine. I remember that performance like it was yesterday. (/ramble)

    Hi! Thanks for remembering something I posted weeks ago, must have had an effect on you! Of course, you would remember me saying that the problem was that David was singing a song by the SAME ARTIST as the contestants. Of course, Ruben sang his own song, so I’m sure you understand the difference. Yes, I still think it is tacky that David is coming on and singing the same theme as the idols, but at least with him there is a small connection.

  107. Are they doing any promotion for Archie’s appearance?

    Did they promote any of them? LOL. I know they did something very similar with Cookie, it was a last minute rumor thingy then they conformed it a few days before, I don’t think he was even on the official press release. He did end up getting some press out of it though.

    Come to think of it, they didn’t announce Cookie’s song was on sale on Itunes or anything on air. That piece on news was announced on Twitter (?) and the song didn’t even go up until late the next day.

    Was it like that with Rueben? Was anyone paying attention?

    I think the value of this performance will be the exposure and the part where they interview Archie and he gets to pimp his new album coming soon.

    I don’t think Adam is really mentoring, all jokes aside.

  108. Wow, Archie’s singing “Imagine”? No, that won’t show up the S9 contestants at all. *rolls eyes*

    Maybe they can do a Movie Songs night again and invite Fantasia to reprise “Summertime.” Oh, I know, how about a Chick Rock night? So they can invite Carrie to sing “Alone”. Or a Michael Jackson night, and simultaneously invite Cook to reprise BJ and Lambert to reprise Black or White.

    Maybe this is TPTB’s super duper secret strategy to get the contestants to beg and plead to do group numbers at each results show so they won’t have these former Idols coming on to school them on how to be, what’s that word? Oh yeah, memorable.

  109. Wow, Archie’s singing “Imagine”? No, that won’t show up the S9 contestants at all. *rolls eyes*

    I know right? LOL.

  110. I wonder if this is a new trend, having Season 7 contestants come back and sing a song on Wednesday that is the idol theme for the week. If that’s the case, I want Jason Castro to come back for Musical Theater week. :)

  111. Wow, Archie’s singing “Imagine”? No, that won’t show up the S9 contestants at all. *rolls eyes*

    Maybe they can do a Movie Songs night again and invite Fantasia to reprise “Summertime.” Oh, I know, how about a Chick Rock night? So they can invite Carrie to sing “Alone”. Or a Michael Jackson night, and simultaneously invite Cook to reprise BJ and Lambert to reprise Black or White.

    don’t put it past tptb to have already thought about it, lol. these contestants and performers are just part and parcel of their shell game to juice the ratings, and secure as much revenue for idol, the show, 1st, last and always. i ain’t mad at ’em, business is business, and something about hating the game and not the players in it, yada yada :)

  112. Archie’s gonna do a rave version of Imagine complete with naked women, strobe lights, rainbow smoke, and glowsticks. Of course, he’s going to start it off like his normal performance of Imagine, but he’s going to disrobe and dance with the women wearing his leather pants (a.k.a. “church slacks”). Then Adam Lambert will come out in a classy suit and finish the song off in the same way Archie started it: somber and quiet, with Adam and Archie harmonizing in the end. There’s a rumor going on that Adam might touch Archie’s nipple.

    Right after it, Crystal Bowersox, Siobhan Magnus, and Lee DeWyze will be sent to the Bottom 3, with Crystal eventually getting eliminated after both she and the judges being so flabbergasted by the Archie spectacle that she’ll tank and they won’t use the save. I dunno, there might be an explosion in there somewhere, too. Maybe some blood. And someone will throw a cat onstage.

    I do not see the night going any other way.

    ….In reality, my mom’s getting mad at me for not knowing who is mentoring. Honestly, I have no idea who it will be. You think there’s a chance they get Paul McCartney (which I doubt will happen, but think it would be interesting to see)? They do seem to be pushing for ratings, but I don’t see who they can get…. Then again, they did get Jamie Foxx for Big Band night last year (was it Big Band, or did I get the theme wrong?)

  113. David Archuleta and Allison should mentor Aaron and Katie :) (just kidding)

    But seriosly David Archuleta was amazing since day one! I’m happy to see him again on Wenesday!

  114. Archie’s gonna do a rave version of Imagine complete with naked women, strobe lights, rainbow smoke, and glowsticks. Of course, he’s going to start it off like his normal performance of Imagine, but he’s going to disrobe and dance with the women wearing his leather pants (a.k.a. “church slacks”). Then Adam Lambert will come out in a classy suit and finish the song off in the same way Archie started it: somber and quiet, with Adam and Archie harmonizing in the end. There’s a rumor going on that Adam might touch Archie’s nipple.

    Right after it, Crystal Bowersox, Siobhan Magnus, and Lee DeWyze will be sent to the Bottom 3, with Crystal eventually getting eliminated after both she and the judges being so flabbergasted by the Archie spectacle that she’ll tank and they won’t use the save. I dunno, there might be an explosion in there somewhere, too. Maybe some blood. And someone will throw a cat onstage.

    I do not see the night going any other way.

    rotflmao!

  115. Holy crap I just spit Pepsi all over my keyboard jammasta! My parents think I’ve officially gone over the edge now.

  116. As much as I love to see Archie on Idol again, I really hate that he is singing “Imagine”. It’s like “In your face, suc$%#^&%, this is how you do it” kind of thing. I didn’t like it when Cook rocked a RS song, it looked liked a showoff. As if these contestants haven’t got enough bad press already, now they are adding insult to injury. Who’s next? Adam strutting to “Black or White” to a Michael Jackson No.1 Hits Theme?

  117. ^^^^^

    Agree. I’m not sure why they are having them come back and sing these songs. Maybe TBTB want to remind everyone of the great talent that’s been on the show? I don’t know, it seems like a new idea, based on the fact that Cook only had a couple of days notice to get his RS song together.

  118. @jammasta .. lol … I hope when Adam touches Archie’s nipple he remembers to do a pointy pose with the other arm .. we need a pointy pose this week somewhere to make up for the lack of them this past week

  119. Dear TPTB,

    I’m really thankfull that you are bringing Archie back… I mean is Great, Archie is Great, the Beatles are great, the contesntants not so great…. but really why dont let him sing other song… I was so haaaaaaapppyyyyyy with the rumor that he was gonna sing Hey Jude… I sang the f***** song all day… I listen to it like 10 times today… so I dont like you today… you can keep your Tim Urban you totally deserve him.

    No love.
    celeste

  120. I’m glad people found that funny :P.

    Does anyone else find it a bit strange that we have Jason Derulo and Rihanna performing on Beatles’ result night? And I’m not saying that Archie coming back to Idol to sing Imagine again is a bad idea (I’m a huge Archie fan so I welcome it), but isn’t the night a bit too young for a Beatles’ result night? I dunno, it just will feel kinda weird…..

    I’m also feeling a bit of TPTB one-upping going on with the Davids performances, but eh, I’ll get over it.

  121. “Imagine” is not a Lennon/McCartney song, but whatevs…

    MJ, you got my hopes up last night that Archie wouldn’t be singing this song. I blame you for my crushing disappointment tonight LOL. I don’t mind seeing Archie – I just hate the song. But, whatever, I’ll live.

    So, clearly TPTB are trying a new tactic – this having previous AIers come on and sing a song that fits with that week’s theme. It disturbs me only because I do so love the cheesetastic pointy poses, and I miss them.

    On a sidenote, I like Jason Derulo. I hope he’s not another one that comes on and makes me discover that he actually can’t sing. Any more of those and I’m going to start believing that someone fucks with the sound backstage to make all of the guests sound like crap.

  122. If any group of contestants could benefit from having a former idol as a mentor it is the s9 bunch. Six weeks into live performances and most of them are still stiff, overly nervous and have trouble picking the right songs. I don’t care who does it – Adam Kris cook Archie Jordin Carrie tasia – doesn’t matter. But I think an “I’ve been there” mentor who can just work with them on being a good idol contestant and entertaining the audience would be helpful for this group. If Adam is available to do it next week by all means bring him on.

  123. I wouldn’t have minded hearing Archie singing “Yesterday” either. Even though McCartney’s original is amazing, that doesn’t seem to matter for Archuleta. After hearing him sing “Love Me Tender”, “Fields of Gold” and a portion of U2’s “One” part of that medley he did in concert, I pretty much can’t wait to be surprised by whatever he does. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGYeBqcilz8 (the “One” part is right at the beginning”)

  124. So, clearly TPTB are trying a new tactic – this having previous AIers come on and sing a song that fits with that week’s theme. It disturbs me only because I do so love the cheesetastic pointy poses, and I miss them.

    Yeah, but what’s he point? Its not for ratings or they’d pimp the performances in advance. I guess just the exposure for the ones they own? But they don’t own Archie. Well, 19R gets a cut. Yeah, I guess it all comes down to 19M or 19R making some cash. And making Idol look good by having alums come back.

    On a sidenote, I like Jason Derulo. I hope he’s not another one that comes on and makes me discover that he actually can’t sing.

    He doesn’t need to sing. He’s auditioning for Chris Brown’s recently vacated spot in the pop landscape. LOL

  125. awwwww *patpat* celeste

    I will keep voting for turban for you. lol

    Thank you ;( but…. but… what about my “nananana hey jude”… how I’m going to get over this… (goes to a corner to listen to the 1 cd of The Beatles)

  126. On a sidenote, I like Jason Derulo. I hope he’s not another one that comes on and makes me discover that he actually can’t sing. Any more of those and I’m going to start believing that someone fucks with the sound backstage to make all of the guests sound like crap.

    I hear he isnt a good live singer either… jsyk…

  127. Er….sorry guys if this has been asked and posted – but any idea who this week’s mentor is? Or is there none??

  128. I don’t care who does it – Adam Kris cook Archie Jordin Carrie tasia – doesn’t matter. But I think an “I’ve been there” mentor who can just work with them on being a good idol contestant and entertaining the audience would be helpful for this group

    Amen. If I get to pick, I choose Kelly. I’d love to see her bitchslap some of these contestants into a good performance. I don’t want to repeat myself, because I already commented on this issue in the Headlines thread, but…. I honestly don’t have an issue with a former finalist coming back to coach the kids a little. After all, there’s really only a small group of people who actually know what this experience feels like. Why not let someone who’s been through it help you?

    I hear he isnt a good live singer either… jsyk…

    LOL – stop tormenting me!

    Yeah, but what’s he point?

    Honestly, I have no clue. Maybe to keep viewers tuning in based on the hope that next time, it will be one of their old faves?

    He doesn’t need to sing. He’s auditioning for Chris Brown’s recently vacated spot in the pop landscape. LOL

    LOL – too true. And, he’s doing a great job so far. My 6 year old thinks he’s positively dreamy. And, I dig the music, so we have a nice detante going on. It’s so much better for her than when mommy screams “Please no more Miley or Taylor Swift! Can Mommy just get a five minute break?” Plus – he’s helped me dodge the bullet of having to download any Bieber. So, he’s already got a high ranking at my house.

  129. LOL – too true. And, he’s doing a great job so far. My 6 year old thinks he’s positively dreamy.

    Ha! So does mine! I’m okay with it. And she doesn’t like Beiber. Mommy has struck gold… for now. I gotta take what I can get. :)

  130. I can’t wait to see David Archuleta on Wednesday. I love that kid.

  131. Ha! So does mine! I’m okay with it. And she doesn’t like Beiber. Mommy has struck gold… for now. I gotta take what I can get.

    Amen sister! It’s the little things that make life bearable.

    I also had no idea that Kara had anything to do with Derulo’s deal. I always forget she has a day job.

  132. the latimes!

    April 05, 2010

    David Archuleta, Jason Derulo also taking the ‘Idol’ stage on Wednesday
    April 5, 2010 | 7:35 pm

    In what’s become a Season 9 tradition, another “American Idol” alumnus will return to the stage that launched his career. Season 7 runner-up David Archuleta performs on Wednesday’s elimination episode, joining Rihanna, who was previously announced, and newcomer Jason Derülo, who counts “Idol” judge Kara DioGuardi as one of his mentors.

    Archie will reprise his show-stopping version of John Lennon’s “Imagine” in honor of the show’s Lennon-McCartney theme. Rihanna will deliver “Te Amo,” and Derülo will perform his latest single, “In My Head.”

    Tune in Wednesday at 9 p.m. to see these performances and find out who’s going home.

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/americanidoltracker/2010/04/david-archuleta-jason-derulo-also-taking-the-idol-stage-on-wednesday.html

  133. There has been a lot of speculating and hand wringing in Archuland today, but all things considered, it’ll be a joy to see and hear David on TV again. Good luck to David, and I hope he has fun!

  134. I can’t believe so many are assuming somebody is forcing Archuleta sing Imagine. What if he chose of his own free will to sing Imagine? It’s not easy to make Archuleta to anything. In any case, I can’t wait to see David.

  135. Whilst I agree with most of what you are saying, a bomb on radio is only the fault of radio (and in this instance the antiquated attitude of American radio – funny how radio stations in other countries have no problem whatsoever playing that song) and a single that is near platinum and still selling in substantial weekly quantities is hardly something that many artists achieve.

    Every country won’t have the exact same taste in music. And I’m sorry, but it’s not always radio’s fault. Let’s take TFM, for example, the song is just dated, so why would pop stations play it, or any station for that matter. And IMO, FYE just doesn’t fit with what’s currently popular on the radio, so I can see why many stations didn’t want to take a chance on it.

  136. Well, I am bummed that David is singing Imagine because it would be far better for his career to use the appearance in front of such a huge audience to debut a new song. Also, David did plenty of ballads on AI and reprising Imagine just hammers home the perception that he’s a balladeer, not a pop singer.

    That said, wouldn’t it be awesome if this is the beginning of a new process at AI in which they retire songs? Imagine could be the first song that no one else may sing on the show because David did it better than anyone else. Then, other idols can come on and do their swan song for a song. Cook–Billie Jean, Kris-Heartless, Carrie–Alone, etc.

  137. It’s possible neither Cook nor Archuleta had a new single ready to sing. I know Archuleta has recorded many for his next album but some so recently that I doubt if the album contents or first single have been chosen yet. Sure it would have been nice to hear new stuff but I’m not going to complain about hearing Imagine again. I can’t believe some malcontent so-called fans have even complained about that on major celeb site articles. Way to support your Idol.

  138. I know there are only 2 other years they’ve done Beatles/Lennon-McCartney but I don’t remember them having mentors for those either.

  139. Also, David did plenty of ballads on AI and reprising Imagine just hammers home the perception that he’s a balladeer, not a pop singer.

    … are these two things mutually exclusive – a pop singer is allowed to sing a ballad every now and then, right, without it having such dramatic or dire repercussions, lol… i think his career can survive the singing of this song on wednesday night. we at least know he can sing – the careers of far too many in pop music these days are predicated upon the fact that they can’t, so maybe this appearance can do a public service, by serving as a reminder of what a real singer is and looks like :) imagine that – an honest to goodness pop singer, who can sing! ‘faints’

  140. Jason Derulo performed as the opening act to the Lady Gaga concert that I went to on New Years eve. He has a pretty good live voice, and I love his take on the Imogen Heap song Whatcha Say. He still needs to work on his stage presence and his choreography was a bit too cheesy for my liking. He is also very good looking in person, but is also very aware of it! LOL. The contrast between him, Lady Gaga and the other opening act (Semi-Precious Weapons, who were even more out of control than Lady Gaga!) was pretty cool. The only thing that all three performers had in common was that all seemed to enjoy undressing onstage.

    I actually think Chris Brown is much more talented than Derulo, who will have a tough time filling Brown’s shoes (if that’s what he wants to do). Also, Chris Brown’s early style is a bit like Derulo, but his latest stuff (like that video he did with Lil Wayne), is more unique and shows progression.

    ETA: I do wish the idol alumni could perform more of their own songs. I don’t understand the new trend. I know that both Davids are working on new albums, but they both had songs on their old albums that were much better than anything they released as singles. I don’t see how it would hurt to perform them. On the other hand, Archie won over a lot of his fans with his performance of Imagine, so it’s probably a smart move. Cook singing that outdated Rolling Stones song (which lacks the timeless appeal that a song like Imagine has) was not a smart move…he could have just as easily shown his rocker potential with some of his own songs…which probably would have sold better!

  141. I think Chris is more talented too and probably has a better natural voice though both have mostly used autotune. On the other hand, apparently much of the public doesn’t know those cool effects are also pitch correction. I have seen people watch someone singing with super obvious autotune and then say “Wow (s)he has a great voice”.

  142. o, clearly TPTB are trying a new tactic – this having previous AIers come on and sing a song that fits with that week’s theme. It disturbs me only because I do so love the cheesetastic pointy poses, and I miss them.

    I think that this crew needs more rehearsal time than other years because they are less polished, and scrapping the group song gives it to them.

    I also expect Davids to be back when their singles drop.. The cover evening is just a little extra to help the show out, and it doesn’t hurt to remind the AI audience of how much they loved them when they were contestants doing covers.

  143. Psst – The “/” means and/or. Sooooo, Imagine is, in fact, a Lennon/McCartney song mj.

  144. Every country won’t have the exact same taste in music. And I’m sorry, but it’s not always radio’s fault. Let’s take TFM, for example, the song is just dated, so why would pop stations play it, or any station for that matter. And IMO, FYE just doesn’t fit with what’s currently popular on the radio, so I can see why many stations didn’t want to take a chance on it.

    I have no clue why people keep counting TFM, It’s funny actually.Did people also count Ever After when Carrie sang it for Enchanted? And FYE not like anything else on the radio? Ever hear of Circus? Same writers. Party In The USA? Ditto. Adam has hinted about it in at least one interview- Program Directors did not want to play a song about sex sung by a gay man. PERIOD. Yet sitting in the top 5 on radio airplay is a song about riding a guy all night long and wondering if he’s big enough and if he can get it up. She sang the song on the Nickelodeon Kid’s Choice Awards, FFS! This is exactly why Adam Lambert fans are so defensive about FYE. It’s all about the double standard. You can call the song a fail all you want but the bottom line is the song excelled in a slew of other countries but his own. If you look at the BB charts in other countries- songs that get that far there also excel here. Why not FYE? I think it is pretty clear. Another thing I noticed following radio for the past few months. It is completely dominated by female singers. Or rappers singing about females. And Train, lol. Program directors need to understand that there is another audience out there besides hetero males who want to listen to hot female singers.

    EYA: FYE was released for about two weeks before it was replaced with WWFM. Kelly Clarkson’s new song has been out about two weeks already and no one has heard it yet- are we ready to stamp a big ole fail on it? Songs take awhile, RCA knows this so why would they pull the song unless PD’s told them they wouldn’t play it? To me that is not a fail on FYE, that’s a fail on US radio.

  145. Another thing I noticed following radio for the past few months. It is completely dominated by female singers. Or rappers singing about females. And Train, lol. Program directors need to understand that there is another audience out there besides hetero males who want to listen to hot female singers.

    EYA: FYE was released for about two weeks before it was replaced with WWFM. Kelly Clarkson’s new song has been out about two weeks already and no one has heard it yet- are we ready to stamp a big ole fail on it? Songs take awhile, RCA knows this so why would they pull the song unless PD’s told them they wouldn’t play it? To me that is not a fail on FYE, that’s a fail on US radio.

    I agree Studio 57… its a strange world we live in.

  146. This is exactly why Adam Lambert fans are so defensive about FYE

    Fans are defensive because they’re fans, LOL. It was his single, it tanked, too bad. It happens to many songs, no conspiracy theory needed. Luckily, WWFM didn’t.

    As to the idea that one song crashed because evil radio has predjejuice against teh gay, all of Adam’s songs are about love sung about by a gay man. There is no one who knows who Adam is, who does not know he is gay. The idea that the exact same radio stations who play his good single think it’s “less gay”and didn’t play the other crappy one because it’s “more gay” is nutso. If the next one fails, at least we know what the fan outcry will be in advance, tho.

    Actually, going back to this week, Archie’s single history is a good illustration of the fact that there is nothing personal in the sales/airplay history of singles. Radio loved his first single, the second one never took off. Not because “radio” changed its opinion about Archie the person, but because of some typical problems with song, timing, rival songs that they wanted to play more.

    Here’s to Archie’s second album though, and hoping Crush will keep doors open. He’s sure to sound lovely this week on the Show.

  147. maturin that is one way to look at it, although that doesn’t explain Fever, which is probably one, if not the strongest song on the album radio wise. It is a sexual song sung by a gay man. Adam said that it was off the table as a single for the time being because the PDs wouldn’t play it.

    I’ll have to take your word on Archie. He is soooo off my radar. Makes me wonder why they didn’t push a third single. Either they figured they had all the album sales they could get or there wasn’t another radio worthy song or they hit their budget $$ for promo. IDK

    As far as fan outcry – I think it is too early to predict what would be said and by who. Thats not a fair thing to say, especially with one success under his belt. Every fan group has their ‘excuses’.

  148. EYA: FYE was released for about two weeks before it was replaced with WWFM. Kelly Clarkson’s new song has been out about two weeks already and no one has heard it yet- are we ready to stamp a big ole fail on it? Songs take awhile, RCA knows this so why would they pull the song unless PD’s told them they wouldn’t play it? To me that is not a fail on FYE, that’s a fail on US radio

    Ive actually heard it a few times already, granted i dont like that song much so i change the station, but ive heard it. lol

  149. I didn’t like it when Cook rocked a RS song, it looked liked a showoff

    So you had rather he sing it crappy to make S9 look better. Sorry. Not gonna happen. Cookie rocked it. Just too bad TPTB didn’t push it more (i.e. not even announcing it was on itunes). It sold in spite of them. He wasn’t even announced as appearing until the night before. Epic fail. So if DA hits it out of the park is he going to be showing off too?

  150. koshka- actually I do have an excuse ready for IIHY if it doesn’t work- America doesn’t like Europop, lol. I still don’t know if I am ready for it. I know the bigger stations in LA and NY want to see it happen, and Bulletproof is starting to move up the charts, I am just kind of iffy about whether America will embrace it.

    maturin, don’t know how to respond to you post, since you pretty much called me nutso for my opinion, lol. I would like to know though since you say it happens all the time, what other song you know of that was completely replaced on radio by another song after less than two weeks?

  151. EYA: FYE was released for about two weeks before it was replaced with WWFM. Kelly Clarkson’s new song has been out about two weeks already and no one has heard it yet- are we ready to stamp a big ole fail on it? Songs take awhile, RCA knows this so why would they pull the song unless PD’s told them they wouldn’t play it? To me that is not a fail on FYE, that’s a fail on US radio.

    I’m sorry, but Kelly’s new song is a terrible example. After three weeks, on November 23rd (day before they sent WWFM for adds), FYE had a grand total of 470 spins (HAC: 183, Pop:287). It had barely broken into the top 50 on HAC and was hovering in the mid-60s on Pop. And it had managed to lose 37 spins from the week before. That’s a song that needs to be benched.

    Meanwhile, Kelly’s song has been out for two weeks and it has made it to top 40 on Pop and top 20 on HAC. The combined monitored spins in just those two formats is 2810. You may not have heard it, but others have.

    I can’t really see how anybody can reasonably argue that the two songs are following the same trajectory and that RCA’s support of Kelly’s song is some indication of what was going on with Adam’s song. Let’s not forget that RCA needed to something quickly because Adam’s album was about to be released and the Christmas freeze was looming. The situations are not at all comparable in my opinion.

    To me that is not a fail on FYE, that’s a fail on US radio

    To me, that’s epic fail on whoever chose to release FYE. It’s called doing your homework and managing your stakeholders. If it is in fact PD’s who refused to play it, it’s probably not because they suddenly changed their minds. If the song had been properly sent around to the PD’s and them given a chance to comment (and maybe part of the rejection was because they got churlish and were offended that they weren’t consulted. I’m not saying they can’t be petty), then whose fault is that? From all the leaks we’ve seen, RCA had properly vetted WWFM prior to releasing FYE, so they did have their ducks in the row for WWFM. Somebody made the call (and from the terse comments from RCA and its mods it doesn’t sound like it was them), to change the single at the last minute. That’s what lit the fuse on that bomb.

  152. I’m not even sure what Europop sounds like but IIHY is a fun summer song. It’s not my favorite and I’d love to re-write the verse lyrics but other than that it could do fine or it might not. We’ll have to wait and see.

    To me, that’s epic fail on whoever chose to release FYE. It’s called doing your homework and managing your stakeholders.

    Yes to this. And maybe it’s a fine song for international release, but they should have known for whatever reason, it wasn’t going to work stateside before they even released it. Too gay, not enough gay, just right amount of gay, who cares. If they didn’t bother to ask the PDs and test the song, then they deserved the egg on their face. It sucked for me as a fan to see the first single tank, but it is what it is. Somebody did do their homework in Japan and the UK and thought it would be a good song for there, so maybe they learned something.

    FWIW, I don’t think it’s the song itself. It’s just playing the radio game.

  153. Psst – The “/” means and/or. Sooooo, Imagine is, in fact, a Lennon/McCartney song mj.

    I think MJ is correct. The Lennon/McCartney songbook is music they wrote for The Beatles. It doesn’t include the music they wrote for Wings or Plastic Ono Band. But, Archie’s not a contestant, so it doesn’t matter.

  154. Studio57, to make a distinction, I’m not calling you nutso, I am characterizing my feeling about the notion that songs by the same singer are perceived as “more” and “less’ gay in a way that effects rotation on corporate radio networks.

    The time elapsed between FYE’s first public play and the add date for WWFFM was longer then two weeks, right? All the the data on FYE can be found by going back in MJ’s threads, in any event.

    An add date was specified. However, the amount of stations that picked up the songs and number of times it was spun was low–it wasn’t showing the sort of rapid adoption that songs which are out of the gate hits display.

    This happens to *most singles* (far more fail then become Top 40 hits). Sometimes a label will wait out a slow start, but it’s risky because if the song never gains traction with a format, they may have wasted an opportunity with the momentum tied to album release. Adam’s label felt they had other good songs to try. To seal the deal, the leading CHR station in the country expressed its interest in WWFM by playing it. The label switched singles.

    What fans interpret as evidence of a secret anti-gay conspiracy is a form of good fortune most pop singers would love, namely, when one of Adam’s songs was sluggish to take off, the biggest, most powerful station in the country picked up his next song instead. How a guy who’s gotten repeated support like that from the largest players in the industry can be seen as a victim of that industry is a mystery to me, however.

    As far as fan outcry – I think it is too early to predict what would be said and by who. Thats not a fair thing to say, especially with one success under his belt. Every fan group has their ‘excuses’.

    True enough. We all have elaborate theories about the careers of those we truly get hooked on.

    For a segue back to Idol, part of the fates of all these kids which fandoms have a harder time filtering is the impact of the other music out there that has nothing to do with them. Archie has to deal with Bieber, and more broadly, the often short shelf life of the teen star: the people who loved them don’t stay 14-16 long.

    Someone up thread pointed out that some of the same hit-makers worked on FYE as worked on Britney’s Circus. But Britney is currently getting a lot of comments that she’s being pushed aside by Gaga and Kesha. The currents are rapid and rocky out there for all pop songs.

  155. OMG – for real? FYE brought up again? Hasn’t this officially been retired to “dead horse” pasture along with “text-gate, why Adam lost, and LLWD is a Script song”?

    Onto other things, Archie singing Imagine – DNW. I am a little disappointed. I mean, the kid is great, and can sing just about anything beautiful, so why trudge out something he’s sung not once but twice on the AI stage before? I mean, he’s so good he could easily sing another Beatles song – like Yesterday maybe. So many great ones to choose from. Imagine is great, but, idk, was hoping for something new.

    On the plus side, at least with another AI alum back, we’ll have some actual great talent and singing this week on AI to look forward to (and psst, Aaron Kelly, this is why I just don’t think you’re very good, Archie did it all so much better, js)

  156. FWIW, I don’t think it’s the song itself. It’s just playing the radio game.

    Exactly.

  157. I’m a little disappointed that Archie is singing Imagine too. At least Cook got to do a song he didn’t perform on his season. I wouldn’t want Kris to come back and do ANS or Adam Mad World. They could have picked another song for Archie to sing. If he wanted to sing it, it’s too bad he didn’t think outside the box and try a different tune this time.

  158. For a segue back to Idol, part of the fates of all these kids which fandoms have a harder time filtering is the impact of the other music out there that has nothing to do with them.

    That is one of the weirdest things about Idol fandom to me. I understand doing some comparisons with other Idols at the beginning, but later in the run the other Idols have absolutely nothing to do with each other unless they are in the same genre and releasing at the same time. And by the time they get to second albums, forget it. But still people focus almost exclusively on how the other alums did/are doing when arguing about their favorites. Case in point: The Kelly/Carrie fanwars. I mean WTF? You even still see Taylor/Daughtry fans arguing! LOL. And soon, the Archie/Cookie thing will start anew. Its all just so nuts! Oh well.

    Anyway, I will be interesting to see how they plan to handle D’Arch this time around, since there is indeed a Beiber taking up his old spot at the moment. They will probably try to mature him somewhat, but I am curious which direction they will go with it. I do think the fact that he’s performing the same night as Jason Derulo and Rhianna is a good thing, since they are likely to go a pop with R&B flourishes direction, his voice is suited for that. (I still want my Mayer-ish album form him but that will likely have to wait. Sigh) I really want to hear his new stuff already! That boy can saaanngg.

  159. I will officially not say another word on the FYE thing even though I was not around when it was declared legally dead, lol. No amount of spin is going to convince me otherwise and I am sure the reverse is true for those that feel it was given a chance :)

  160. Kanadie Bonttell:
    04/05/2010 at 9:06 pm
    “I don’t think Adam being a mentor is that far fetched.
    Simon Fuller has every right & rea$on to pimp his show & his artist, it would be a win-win for him…seems like a no brainer to me.”

    I agree with you about this, Simon Fuller would not have a problem pimping one of his up and coming stars for his show. Adam would be a great mentor because he’s honest and caring. These kids obviously needs some straight talk about their performances and vocal abilities. Adam understands that these kids need to hear both the compliments and criticisms to grow as people and artist.

    Do I honestly believe Adam will be mentoring next week, no I don’t, but I wish he would.

  161. Well, I am bummed that David is singing Imagine because it would be far better for his career to use the appearance in front of such a huge audience to debut a new song.

    Honestly, I don’t think TPTB care what’s better for their careers. They’re hoping for ratings. And, I don’t think these guys are given a choice on what to sing. I think they’re being offered an opportunity to come sing on the show within the context of the theme. I doubt somebody called David Cook and said “Hey David, we want you to sing a show next week. What would you rather do? A song that makes you actual money? Or cover a Rolling Stones tune like the rest of the kids?”

    I think they’re being asked to do the show a favor. The show isn’t trying to do one for them. Kris has a CD out that isn’t selling like hotcakes, but they bring him on to sing some charity single, rather than a song that might spark renewed interest in his CD. I doubt that would have been Kris’s manager’s first choice.

    Frankly, I think it’s nice when the familiar faces pop up on the show. It’s entertaining, which I believe is the goal. I don’t think whether or not it’s a career boost for the performer is of any consequence at all to TPTB.

    I’m a fan of Adam, but I don’t really give a crap that FYE tanked on radio. I figured what was important there was that RCA reacted quickly, and had a solid plan B. I’ve seen them before force an AI alumni to keep pushing a single that was never going to catch on (and damaging a career in the process). Reversing course and going with WWFM was much better for Adam. They did the right thing. I don’t see much use in dwelling on the fact that his first single was a dud or that his movie soundtrack song didn’t catch on. Sometimes, that’s the way life goes, and you just keep on chugging along until you find something that works. Which, they did.

  162. Onto other things, Archie singing Imagine – DNW. I am a little disappointed.

    I assume this is going to be a shortened version of the song, since Archie doesn’t actually believe — at all, I would say — in the philosophy that the song espouses.

    This is something that I think is very odd about trotting him out to sing it. It’s a song about getting rid of religion. Entirely. (along with nationalism and property ownership — i.e., it’s about some kind of world government/communitarian-communism/atheism thing)

    When I hear people say that changing the pronouns in a love song shouldn’t be done and that doing it bastardizes the song and ruins if for them as listeners, I wonder why TPTB want somebody to sing a song whose lead-off verse and a half they have to drop or change because they don’t believe in it, when it would seem that that verse sets out the song’s main theme. … And if Archie *does* sing those lines, I get the strong impression that *he’ll* be lying. Makes no sense to me. In fact, I don’t see how he’s even going to do a full-length version of the song.

    Imagine there’s no Heaven
    It’s easy if you try
    No hell below us
    Above us only sky
    Imagine all the people
    Living for today

    Imagine there’s no countries
    It isn’t hard to do
    Nothing to kill or die for
    And no religion too

    And here’s something else I don’t get. How come it’s fine for Idols to come on the show and sing older songs off of other people’s albums, but it’s not fine for them to come on the show and sing something off their *own* albums, if those albums came out more than, like, a month ago?

    Is there some rule that I can buy an album or song from 1972 or 1986 or something, but that I can’t/won’t ever be suddenly inspired to buy an Idol album that came out in 2008 or whatever? On a show that proceeds almost entirely by having people sing *oldies* (often quite moldy oldies, at that), why are songs by former Idols themselves considered too old and passe to be sung if they didn’t come out in spring 2010? This baffles me completely. I’d like to hear returning finalists sing their own music.

  163. Wanted David to sing “Hey Jude” as someone here suggested, but if he’s to sing “Imagine,” I’ll enjoy “Imagine” again. I strongly doubt that David made this song choice. Fans have asked him to sing Imagine in concert and he’s declined — (trying to paraphrase a remembered response) said, I think, that the song had had its moment.

    Still, I’ll be watching. Gotta see the hair.

    And to add to the radio discussion. Pfffft. Radio needs an overhaul, period. Tired of what’s being played. Everyone I know is tired of it, and that includes teens on up.

  164. All this talk of AI alums singing on AI has me suddenly very curious as to what Adam will be singing (if indeed he is on next week). Too early for IIHY? Too late for WWFM (plus overdone)? Another song from the album, which he’s been known to do quite frequently on tv? Sleepwalker was all kinds of awesome sauce on Leno not long ago, and that song is just all sorts of amazing (vocally, emotionally) when done live. But IDK if they’d prefer to use the AI platform for something that is either a current or soon-to-be single.

    Personal pick: Acoustic DTRH FTW!!! (or Fever :-) )

  165. I’m more than happy to hear Archie sing “Imagine” again and I certainly wouldn’t mind hearing Kris sing “Ain’t No Sunshine” or Adam sing “Mad World” for that matter. I think if this seasons contestants want to understand what the judges mean by “a moment” or “making a song your own,” all they would have to do is locate all three of those live performances (youtube or something)and watch and listen. Perfect examples of how to achieve that goal. Not some kooky, crazy arrangement, but not a carbon copy of the original. A little different, a little showmanship and stellar vocals. Personally I think David wins in the vocals category. I think his AI version of Imagine is one of the very best performances overall in AI history. Not that Adam and Kris aren’t great, especially Adam for the wow factor. What I really thought was powerful was that all three singers really felt the song, understood the lyrics, they weren’t just singing words. Something that is sadly lacking in this season. No believability.

  166. And to add to the radio discussion. Pfffft. Radio needs an overhaul, period. Tired of what’s being played. Everyone I know is tired of it, and that includes teens on up.

    Tru dat! The last few weeks, I’ve turned to my ipod in the car almost immediately because I get so fed up with the radio. I literally was hearing Tik Tok every time I’d turn on to a certain pop station – most of the pop songs are so overplayed right now I feel they’ve earned Macarena status.

  167. Can’t people stop arguing about Adam? What does lack of radio support for FYE has anything to do with this topic? I know his fans want to talk about him all the time but I’m so sick of people hijacking almost every thread to argue about Adam.

  168. fluffy_bunny:
    04/06/2010 at 10:13 am
    Can’t people stop arguing about Adam? What does lack of radio support for FYE has anything to do with this topic? I know his fans want to talk about him all the time but I’m so sick of people hijacking almost every thread to argue about Adam.

    I haven’t gone back to see for sure, but if the subject was about FYE as a failure, I doubt it was brought up by Adam fans. js

  169. Lucy, David sings the full version of the song and he has been doing so for years and years. (I’ve seen a video of him singing the full song at age 13.) He has said often that he sang the last verse on the show because it was his favorite, not because he had a problem with the first two verses. He has also said that a lot of people get hung up on those first two verses — they stop listening because THEY have a problem with the lyrics — yet he hears something different in the message. He wanted to sing it that way because he wanted those very people to hear what he hears.

    Since his mother’s family emigrated from Honduras, it makes sense that he has a big heart for those who have little. I think this may be part of why the song appeals to him.

    And as for the rest, *I* love that song and I am not an atheist or communist or socialist. I think you can believe in God and democracy still understand that living for the day (instead of for the future/heaven) is such a good thing. Still understand that we are a big world. Still understand that sharing with our big world is good for us and the world.

    I have no idea if that makes sense. Just saying that the song seems to inspire passion in people — both good and bad — but that one should not assume people’s perception of its meaning.

  170. I think if this seasons contestants want to understand what the judges mean by “a moment” or “making a song your own,” all they would have to do is locate all three of those live performances (youtube or something)and watch and listen. Perfect examples of how to achieve that goal. Not some kooky, crazy arrangement, but not a carbon copy of the original. A little different, a little showmanship and stellar vocals.

    Good point. There have been plenty of very fine “moments” over the years that they could refer to — and every one of them has featured the performer being him or herself and singing a song terrifically in his or her own style, without, as you mention, necessarily hugely rearranging it. Just singing it very *well* with their own interpretation, phrasing, way with notes, etc.

    Problem is, though, I would bet that all the current idols who’ve actually watched the show are perfectly aware of many of these “moments” and would truly love to create ones of their own. But unfortunately wanting to do it and being able to do it with your current skills are two entirely different things! You really need to be very familiar with and comfortable in your own singing/performing skin to do this — *and* be a strong enough performer to be compelling to the audience — and at this moment it seems pretty clear that a lot of this group haven’t yet arrived at that point.

  171. Lucy, David sings the full version of the song and he has been doing so for years and years. (I’ve seen a video of him singing the full song at age 13.)

    Oh, of course you’re right. This is one of those things that I had known and completely forgot! (I think because it’s just always seemed completely odd to me that anybody can sing this song and imagine it isn’t about religion and belief in an after-life being one of the big causes of evil on earth!)

    I guess we sing lots of stuff we don’t believe in, or at least don’t believe in the way the original writer believes in it. Still, it strikes me as odd that so many have been heated about the terrible damage done to a song when a different gender pronoun is used than in the original and then it’s okay with everybody that one can completely change the meaning of a song in one’s own mind from what the original writer intended and have that be just fine. … I guess it all depends on how well you sing the song, though — and David certainly excels in that department!

    I know that he sings Imagine very purdy.

    I’d still rather he sang his own music, though!

  172. I think David was right about using the 3rd verse on Idol. They are not given enough time to sing the whole song and the third verse makes a better short song. He sang the whole thing before Idol and he sang the whole thing at Ford Day after Idol. And I don’t mind that David is singing Imagine again. We don’t know why – whether they asked for it, or he wanted it, or if he didn’t have time to practice a new song. It doesn’t really matter. I am happy they are having him on and I’ll enjoy it.

  173. if it were ‘mary had a little lamb’ he had sung, and sung the verses out of order, it would have probably generated all this pointless scrutiny, lol… does his religious identification have something to do with this heightened scrutiny of the imagine lyrics – i hope not. he makes it a point not to interject his beliefs in interviews and doesn’t project them in communication w/his fans, so who can say what or how he feels and interprets these or any other lyrics. in my feeble brain, lennon first of all is asking the listener to imagine a world without religion, possessions, etc. there to me is nothing anti-religious, socialist or communist in the imagining of a world like that. especially if you or your ancestors have been the recipient of some of the death, destruction, hate and other ills foisted on people down through history in the name of religion, sometimes at the point or barrel of a gun or much worse… martin luther king spoke of having a dream one day of a color blind society for his children to live in… is it lying or disingenious for those people who don’t believe in what king espoused to celebrate or take the day off when the holiday rolls around, lol… i know many that do. i’m making no correlation between the beliefs of either of these two men, but it is just weird for me anyway, for folks to still be hung up 2 years later on the lyric order as david chose to sing them… idol fandom, ya gotta love it…

  174. I was not a fan of David A that season, and I hated his rendition of Imagine. I am a huge Lennon fan and, honestly, I think I’d hate ANYONE’S version of Imagine. For me, that song just should not be touched. I’ll just have to ff through it.

  175. that is fair enough calimari – every singer isn’t everyone’s cuppa, and we all have our songs we feel are untouchable, whether they are or not, it’s what we feel, and i respect that… the hue and cry over the singing or not singing of the lyrics and trying to portend the meaning of that has just been nuts, lolol… woo wee, idol fandom is in a class all unto itself…

  176. ok I don’t know what you guys have been talking about but I’m still on cloud 9 that he’s going to perform!!!! I wish it was a new single but maybe this will create some buzz so he can get his new song out their sooner. :) I’m gonna totally fangirl wednesday night. <3 can ya tell? lol :D

  177. Why can’t TPTB at Idol shell out some money for new material this season? I love Archie, but he already sang the song TWICE his season! Why reprise it yet AGAIN when he could sing something that’s, you know, actually from the Lennon-McCartney repertoire? He did a beautiful job on “Long and Winding Road,” why not do that one at least? I guess somebody will be singing it tonight? Oh well, at least we’ll get to hear the first verse of “Imagine” this time!

  178. Exactly, forgcooke, if they let him sing for longer than 1:30. Which it sounds like they’ll probably shorten his since the other two will probably get to sing their whole songs. David never complains about this either.

    I was not a fan of David A that season, and I hated his rendition of Imagine. I am a huge Lennon fan and, honestly, I think I’d hate ANYONE’S version of Imagine.

    Well, don’t bother watching any of Idol if a song is untouchable. Cause there always going to be the original versions to compare to and every artists interpretation is different from another.

  179. For Archie, I hope they can get the stage right, the camera action right, the sound system right, and the lighting right. Would really like to see him shine on this song again. Looking forward to it. And after going through all the Disney associations, the teen idol phase, and after singing the upbeat Touch My Hand last time, I’m hoping he will present as a more mature artist on the Idol stage. Maybe sort of like he did when he sang Contigo La Distancia” at the ALMA Awards, but of course it will be “Imagine”. He’s close to 20 years old now, so maybe it’s time?

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