Idol Headlines for 12/20/09

Simon Fuller set to take helm at CKX

According to sources and analysts close to the Nasdaq-listed group, the board of directors is understood to be gearing up to ask Mr Fuller to take over the helm, as the division he presently runs, 19 Entertainment, generates the majority of the company’s profits.

Mr Fuller is understood to be speaking to the the CKX board of directors ‘ of which he is a member ‘ about the move, which will catapult him to the helm of the company that bought 19 Entertainment, his talent company, for £64.5m, plus share options, in 2005. A source familiar with the situation said: “Fuller will sell his stock, once he has finished negotiating his new package with the board, and then will take over the CKX business within the next year.

Telegraph.co.uk

More Idol Headlines after the JUMP…

Adam Lambert and Tiger Woods: A Tale of Two American Idol Scandals

Adam Lambert and Tiger Woods. One’s career trajectory is on the way up. The other’s appears on the way down — or certainly stuck in a deep, sand trap.

What do they share in common beyond celebrity? Among other things, the double-edged power of the persona or public image; the perils of image management turning on you like a hydra-headed viper; the merciless maw of celebrity gossip, and the media’s penchant for cheerleading ‘schadenfreude’, that timeless and timely German term meaning to take pleasure from someone else’s misfortune.

Schadenfreude is something at which the news and entertainment media are so deft at exploiting to grab audiences all the while laying off on them the motivation for media saturation or piously laying on the “need to know rationale.”

Psychology Today

Alice Cooper’s Christmas Pudding provided something for everyone

Valley-based rock star Alice Cooper and his wife, Sheryl, tweaked the program of the ninth edition of their Christmas Pudding charity concert, making it more friendly for families and people who couldn’t stay for the entire four-hour-plus proceedings.

Sets by contest winners the Jeff Hunt Band, Micah Beverly and Buskin Cuffs also were well-received, as was “American Idol” veteran Scott MacIntyre.

AZCentral

Steph Jones is The Little Drummer Boy

Jordin Sparks makes a special cameo appearance in musician pal Steph Jones’ new music video for his own rendition of the Christmas classic ‘The Little Drummer Boy.’ 

The vid was just shot on December 8 and also features B.Scott.

As for what inspired the video, Steph says, ‘Think [director] Tim Burton meets Nightmare Before Elm Street meets The Nutcracker!’ 

Just Jared

David Archuleta’s Christmas show brings wonderment — holiday’s and his

It was an astonishing sight: teen and ‘tween girls shrieking at and cheering someone singing traditional Christmas songs Friday at Stroudsburg’s Sherman Theater.

But this was an astonishing concert. ‘American Idol’  runner-up David Archuleta sang so well in his holiday show ‘ a little more than half of which was Christmas material ‘ that he drew five standing ovations over his 17 songs in 90 minutes and often prompted spontaneous cheers and clapping mid-song.

McCall.com

Time to Rage Against the Corporate Pop Machine

Every now and then, Daily Mirror columnist Brian Reade has something valuable to say, and his most recent column is one such example.

First, a little history. Here in Britain, a massive campaign is underway to declare Rage Against The Machine’s “Killing in the Name” the No. 1 Christmas single. Currently, that little ditty is neck-and-neck with X-Factor winner Joe McElderry’s current single “The Climb.”

Like every other thing that X-Factor (and Britain’s Got Talent / America’s Got Talent) has produced, the music is syrupy and has got a bigger corporate stamp on it than Microsoft, another meaningless mass-produced bit of balladry for the masses. And that’s my problem with it.

BlogCritics.org

Christmas Number 1: who will be top of the festive pops?

The season’s musical turkeys have fallen from contention, and with just five days to Christmas, squeaky-clean Joe McElderry, the winner of television talent show The X Factor, is slugging it out at the top of the charts with Rage Against the Machine, a raucous American rock outfit notorious “for rebelling against structures”.

Could any contest be more enticingly poised? Joe is packaged as the new Cliff Richard, an 18-year-old, cherub-faced, Diet Coke-drinking Geordie sent forth to defend the nation’s musical honour against the anarchic Ragers, whose foul-mouthed repartee last week forced the BBC to take them off the air.

Telegraph.co.uk

Rage Against The Machine Promises Free Concert If They Beat Simon Cowell

With just a few hours remaining before the winner is decided at the close of today’s sales, Rage Against The Machine has announced it will play a huge free concert in the U.K. to celebrate a victory as the clock ticks on the historic people’s campaign to beat Simon Cowell for Britain’s No. 1 Christmas single to raise money and awareness for homelessness.

If the unprecedented grassroots movement to topple Cowell’s X-Factor monopoly is successful and the band’s single, “KILLING IN THE NAME” finishes No. 1 on the Christmas Week UK pop charts over Cowell protg Joe McElderry’s “The Climb, ” the group vows to return to U.K. shores sometime in 2010 for the massive “thank you” gig ‘ ¦. and invite 2nd Place finisher and X-Factor impressario Simon Cowell to MC the show!

Anti-Music.com

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265 Comments

  1. Danny’s single “My Best Days” is now available for purchase on Amazon’s UK site.

  2. Album review…

    ‘Christmas from the Heart’ appropriate title for David Archuleta’s wonderful disc

    David Archuleta’s ‘Christmas from the Heart’  is exactly that: an expression of love for the holiday that comes from deep in the soul. This is no fun, frosty holiday cheer disc, and certainly no toss-off yuletide money grab. It’s a deeply serious but astonishingly uplifting examination of the birth of Christ through music.
    – – snip – –

    That Archuleta succeeds so smashingly is nothing short of astonishing. His voice is full, rich and precise. He lifts songs that have long been diluted by lesser performances to their classic levels.
    – – snip – –

    This is an album meant to be absorbed in a quiet, contemplative place — where its gift of a voice and music that touches, as the title suggests, the heart can be fully appreciated.

    Lehigh Valley Music

  3. Another man-on-man kiss’ ¦.keep em coming.

    But male on male kiss have being on tv since Dawson’s Creek, featured the first male on male kiss… there have been a ton of it… you just have to see Queer as Folk (in this there is more than kissing), The L World, Brothers & Sisters, Gossip Girl, …Sex & The City… etc…

    Just read this article from June 2008:
    Gay Kisses on TV: Finally No Big Deal?

    ETA:
    And I saw the sketch on SNL last night and it wasnt even funny…

  4. But this was an astonishing concert. ‘American Idol’  runner-up David Archuleta sang so well in his holiday show ‘“ a little more than half of which was Christmas material ‘“ that he drew five standing ovations over his 17 songs in 90 minutes and often prompted spontaneous cheers and clapping mid-song.

    FIVE Standing O’s!! Way to go Archie!

  5. But male on male kiss have being on tv since Dawson’s Creek, featured the first male on male kiss’ ¦ there have been a ton of it’ ¦ you just have to see Queer as Folk (in this there is more than kissing), The L World, Brothers & Sisters, Gossip Girl, ‘ ¦Sex & The City’ ¦ etc’ ¦

    Perhaps it’s the unrehearsed, spontaneity that is putting these kisses in the headlines?

  6. Cruzceleste, I believe you asked earlier how to get an avatar. You do it by going to this site… http://en.gravatar.com/ and signing up. Your avatar will be linked to your email address. It will follow you to all the websites that use Gravatar as its avatar source.

  7. But male on male kiss have being on tv since Dawson’s Creek, featured the first male on male kiss’ ¦ there have been a ton of it’ ¦ you just have to see Queer as Folk (in this there is more than kissing), The L World, Brothers & Sisters, Gossip Girl, ‘ ¦Sex & The City’ ¦ etc’ ¦

    The retcon on this issue is unreal. Pretty soon, Adam will be the first man who ever kissed a man on TV. People already believe that the kiss is the thing that was censored by ABC.

    Spin like this takes away from the true trailblazers.

  8. The review of Archie’s concert is fantastic. I think he’ll be getting lots of promo this week – Regis, LKL and the Today show (I think). I love the Michael Bubble comment in the review. That’s the Archie I really love the best.

    And even better news, only 20 days to S9 and counting. I can hardly wait. :)

  9. The retcon on this issue is unreal. Pretty soon, Adam will be the first man who ever kissed a man on TV. People already believe that the kiss is the thing that was censored by ABC.

    Spin like this takes away from the true trailblazers

    He was the first to do it live and without warning, and to an “unsuspecting” audience, and you can say what you like, but when the kiss gets censored on different networks and is called “lewd” by Barbara Walters (yes yes- she gave the male kiss an example of the “lewdness” of Adam’s performance) and others, then you betcha he’s a trailblazer…

  10. According to this site, Rage Against The Machine may have won it –
    http://www.nme.com/news/rage-against-the-machine/48970

    Looks like there was a late surge by RATM, apparently “RATM could have sold 100,000 copies yesterday alone”, and had 4 times the number of downloads on iTunes as Joe according to the popularity bars this morning (chart week ended at midnight). I’m not as certain that RATM will win though, a lot of downloads may be nullified as multiple downloads by a single user don’t count in the official tally. We should know the result in a couple of hours’ time. It is going to be close whichever way it goes.

  11. Spin like this takes away from the true trailblazers.

    Who are the true trailblazers?

    Eta nvm I kinda recall your posters the other day.

  12. Who are the true trailblazers?

    The ones that truly did the first male-on-male kiss on TV. That’s what we are talking about.

  13. I think Ellen is a real trailblazer. She came out as gay on her sit com over ten years ago. And will soon be a judge on the upcoming S9.
    Interesting coincidence.

  14. He was the first to do it live and without warning, and to an ‘unsuspecting’  audience,

    “Unsuspecting” audience? LOL. It’s not like they were attacked. In a live show (that isn’t a play or review or something repeated each night), you kind of expect not to know everything that is going to happen, don’t you?

    Are you positive about Adam’s being the first male-on-male live kiss? I’m sure that I’ve seen them before on talk shows and stuff like that (when couples are sometimes interviewed). I think it’s just such a non-issue for most (as evidenced by the article that cruzceleste posted) that I don’t think most people pay all that much attention unless the artist chooses to spin it into a big deal. Wasn’t Barbara refering to the simulated BJ when she was talking about “lewd”?

  15. Perhaps the outrage over Adam’s kiss is that people know he is gay whereas the others are merely playacting.

  16. I think every gay couple who has kissed on national television thus far is a trailblazer. Until seeing gay couples kissing is as natural as seeing hetero couples kissing, those brave gay couples who do so are paving the way toward greater public awareness/acceptance/comfort. The fact that we’re even discussing gay kissing on the networks and can practically count on our hands the number of instances in which gay kisses have been seen on prime time TV means we’re not there yet.

  17. Adam is a trailblazer in that the kiss was real, not a skit. He felt it and he did it. The PT article focuses more on how he handled the aftermath I think than the actual acts. He refused to apologize but was totally honest and open about his actions as he has always been. There was no subterfuge and betrayal in contrast to Tiger Woods actions.

  18. Adam is a trailblazer in that the kiss was real, not a skit. He felt it and he did it. The PT article focuses more on how he handled the aftermath I think than the actual acts. He refused to apologize but was totally honest and open about his actions as he has always been. There was no subterfuge and betrayal in contrast to Tiger Woods actions.

  19. Wasn’t Barbara refering to the simulated BJ when she was talking about ‘lewd’ ?

    No, not only. She also mentioned the “man-on-man” kiss as example of lewd behavior if I remember correctly. She wouldn’t show that AMA clip on TV but ironically she showd a clip of Gaga kissing another girl in a MV…

  20. KrisAllen

    Watching 20 sexiest videos on fuse and still looking for mine. Almost to #1 (fingers crossed).

    This made me laugh this morning, as Kris’ tweets usually do. I’m out of the loop – what is Fuse?

  21. Oh NO. The millionth rehash of the AMA performance. And here comes another discussion of homophobia.

    I think every reorganizing my sock drawer is more interesting at this point.

  22. Perhaps the outrage over Adam’s kiss is that people know he is gay whereas the others are merely playacting.

    Dont think so… on Queer as Folk half of the cast, male and female, were openly gay…

    ETA.
    And just for the record I have no problem on the male on male kissing… and I have no intention on getting in the dicussion about why was censored or not… but somebody frase her comment as it was something that “free” people to do it on tv, as if the kiss was the first time to happened, I just pointed out that there have to been a lot of male kissing on tv…

  23. Wasn’t Barbara refering to the simulated BJ when she was talking about ‘lewd’ ?

    That’s just it- her examples of his lewd actions were: 1. Groping dancers 2. Kissing his male band member…

    If the rackus was only because of the BJ, I don’t think it would have hit so many people’s nerves the way it did, but in many place, the man on man kiss was the thing they focused on, and not just the other parts.

  24. Adam does make people talk, but in my opinion Ellen has done more to promote a wider acceptance of GLTs. Adam is still too controversial. You are either a big fan or you are not much of a fan at all.

    edit: don’t comment on the thread

  25. No, not only. She also mentioned the ‘man-on-man’  kiss as example of lewd behavior if I remember correctly.

    Really? Well, that’s wrong of Barbara. What’s with all these people (Early Show and Barbara) trying to be all self-righteous about ABC censoring Adam while they are being even more censoring than ABC? What a bunch of maroons.

    Look, I’m not saying that gays have reached equality, I just hate that ABC is getting dinged for what it did not do and the retcon on the kiss. But, I’m pedantic (I get all grumpy when people ignore Gagarin’s and Tereshkova’s achievements too).

  26. Wow, the media just will not let Adam’s AMA performance go. I think he was ready to stop talking about it weeks ago. I know I was. But here we go again.

    Wow to Simon Fuller taking over the company that bought 19. I had no idea that 19 turned such a profit in relation to it’s parent company.

  27. Look, I’m not saying that gays have reached equality, I just hate that ABC is getting dinged for what it did not do and the retcon on the kiss. But, I’m pedantic (I get all grumpy when people ignore Gagarin’s and Tereshkova’s achievements too).

    Do we really know what caused the ABC hiccup about Adam going off script? The simulated BJ was there in rehearsal just not so extreme. We know they can’t be fined because of the kiss but that doesn’t mean that it wasn’t the kiss that their sponsors reacted to. Given the publics reactions that seems to be the really provocing thing.

  28. He was the first to do it live and without warning, and to an ‘unsuspecting’  audience,

    Can’t remember exactly, but I think someone else done it before (done as joke I think).

    A few year ago, Justin Timberlake looked to be planning on giving a surprise kiss to Jake Gyllenhaal when he presented him with the MTV Best Kiss Award. Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on your point of view), Jake deliberately kept a good distance from Justin and that kiss never materialised.

    Adam is a trailblazer in that the kiss was real, not a skit.

    I’m not sure how real it can be when only one person felt like doing it.

  29. Happy Birthday David Cook. What a year and on and upward. 2010 Sophmore album…

  30. I finally figured out what bothers me about the term ‘simulated BJ’ ’ ¦what BJ ever takes 3 seconds? Merriam Webster says simulated means ‘made to look genuine’  In no way did that look anywhere near a genuine BJ’ ¦just sayin’.

    ITA, perhaps “crotch nuzzle” or “buckle buzz” would be more apropos in this instance.

  31. Wow to Simon Fuller taking over the company that bought 19. I had no idea that 19 turned such a profit in relation to it’s parent company.

    The ad rates last year for Idol were almost a million dollars per 30 second spot. In season 6, somebody counted the number of commercials during the Top 12 Boys night. There were 67 commercials. There are lots of 2 hour nights on the Idol calendar. And that’s before the money they get from Coke, AT&T and Ford. Then there is the iTunes revenue and the tour revenue ($30M this year). And reality shows are cheap to produce (we know they aren’t spending the money on clearing fresh songs).

  32. ITA, perhaps ‘crotch nuzzle’  or ‘buckle buzz’  would be more apropos in this instance.

    So much more accurate and interesting IMO….Good job GaGa!

  33. ITA, perhaps ‘crotch nuzzle’  or ‘buckle buzz’  would be more apropos in this instance.

    Since the dancer in question wasn’t “nuzzling”, perhaps we could just settle on “shoved a dancer’s head into his crotch and pelvic thrusted into his face for 3 seconds”? For short, SaDHIHCaPTIHFF3S.

  34. Since the dancer in question wasn’t ‘nuzzling’ , perhaps we could just settle on ‘shoved a dancer’s head into his crotch and pelvic thrusted it into his face for 3 seconds’ ?

    Or maybe shoved in the stomack… his aim was a bit off…

  35. Since the dancer in question wasn’t ‘nuzzling’ , perhaps we could just settle on ‘shoved a dancer’s head into his crotch and pelvic thrusted into his face for 3 seconds’ ? For short, SaDHIHCaPTIHFF3S.

    lolz sorry this post is too funny… ever though on doing stand on comedy… lol

  36. IMO Adam is a “trailblazer”, but not because he was the first gay man to kiss another man on prime-time network TV. He is a trailblazer because he is an openly gay man who is trying to become a successful pop/rock star and still be honest about who he is.

    Even Aaron Hicklin, editor and chief of OUT Magazine, recognized this when he wrote, “You’re a pioneer, an out gay pop idol at the start of his career. Someone has to be first…”

  37. The ad rates last year for Idol were almost a million dollars per 30 second spot. In season 6, somebody counted the number of commercials during the Top 12 Boys night. There were 67 commercials. There are lots of 2 hour nights on the Idol calendar. And that’s before the money they get from Coke, AT&T and Ford. Then there is the iTunes revenue and the tour revenue ($30M this year). And reality shows are cheap to produce (we know they aren’t spending the money on clearing fresh songs).

    It’s an impressive business model, for sure. As much as people are complaining about Idol going downhill… it’s certainly got a lot to fall back on.

    Oh, and happy birthday to David Cook!

  38. Since the dancer in question wasn’t ‘nuzzling’ , perhaps we could just settle on ‘shoved a dancer’s head into his crotch and pelvic thrusted into his face for 3 seconds’ ? For short, SaDHIHCaPTIHFF3S.

    Well no matter the description of it, the action was gross.

  39. Eileen99 I agree about kris’s tweet. He can be sly in 140 characters. I let out an actual guffaw when I read it. I take it fuse is another music vid site

    Also loved the new euphemisms for AMA antics.

  40. The ad rates last year for Idol were almost a million dollars per 30 second spot. In season 6, somebody counted the number of commercials during the Top 12 Boys night. There were 67 commercials. There are lots of 2 hour nights on the Idol calendar. And that’s before the money they get from Coke, AT&T and Ford. Then there is the iTunes revenue and the tour revenue ($30M this year). And reality shows are cheap to produce (we know they aren’t spending the money on clearing fresh songs).

    Man, that is some crazy money. While the viewership may be waning, Idol is still a gold-plated cash cow.

  41. “Dont think so’ ¦ on Queer as Folk half of the cast, male and female, were openly gay’ ¦”

    Queer as Folk was on Showtime not network TV. There is no comparison.

  42. Is Season 9 here yet?

    Just 23 more days. Starts on Jan 12th. I may actually watch the auditions this year in order to start the season early for me.

    I’m going to start an advent calendar for Season 9 (2 days late). I will venture forth onto Vote For the Worst (because they are spoiler fiends) and randomly pick some auditioner they have identified as going to Hollywood:

    Number 1: Kat Nestel
    Age: 19
    Hometown: Newport Beach, CA
    Audition City : Los Angeles

    Youtube Clip

    Myspace

    IDK She seems a little shouty, but maybe she’ll fill the tatooed lady spot.

  43. Even Aaron Hicklin, editor and chief of OUT Magazine, recognized this when he wrote, ‘You’re a pioneer, an out gay pop idol at the start of his career. Someone has to be first’ ¦’ 

    With the following qualifications –
    1) As a gay man only, lesbian not counting (see Linda Perry).
    2) As a full-blooded American only (see Rufus Wainwright).
    3) Only Pop counts (see Jobriath).
    4) Only success in America counts (see Scissor Sisters).
    5) Those who aren’t successful don’t count (See Jim Verraros)

    Since success is still not certain for Adam (even if I think he will be one), even Adam himself can’t qualify as a pioneer. Wait another
    year before making that claim.

  44. Number 1: Kat Nestel
    Age: 19
    Hometown: Newport Beach, CA
    Audition City : Los Angeles

    I was on Vote for the Worst this morning looking over what they found, and I’ve gotta say, there seem to be some very talented people, especially ladies … which is predictable since I think they want a female winner this time.

    However, I also noted at least one cute guy with a guitar and a nice voice. How are they going to defeat that juggernaut!!! ;-)

  45. Just 23 more days. Starts on Jan 12th. I may actually watch the auditions this year in order to start the season early for me.

    I’m going to start an advent calendar for Season 9 (2 days late). I will venture forth onto Vote For the Worst (because they are spoiler fiends) and randomly pick some auditioner they have identified as going to Hollywood:

    Number 1: Kat Nestel
    Age: 19
    Hometown: Newport Beach, CA
    Audition City : Los Angeles

    Youtube Clip
    Myspace

    IDK She seems a little shouty, but maybe she’ll fill the tatooed lady spot.

    Great idea Kirsten lol! I like her, she is a bit shouty puts she reminds of Lindsay Cardinale, who I loved. I looked at a couple of her other videos and really like her version of Big Yellow Taxi. I don’t she will be a front runner or anything, but I am positive her “type” is what they will be going for this year.

  46. Reminder:

    The thread is not the topic. If you don’t like the discussion, pick another article and discuss it. Don’t bitch about the thread.

  47. I can’t believe how much I’m looking forward to S9 just so we can move on from S8. I’ve got my fingers crossed for lots of instrument-playing singer-songwriters.

    Happy birthday, David Cook. Hoping the Chiefs win today and that you knock it out of the park (mixed sports metaphors FTW!) singing the SSB this afternoon. (Wow, the Browns are actually WORSE than the Chiefs, so there’s hope after all! ;-) )

  48. David Cook should be singing the SSB within the hour. Doesn’t the Chiefs game start at 1 pm Eastern?

  49. Thanks for the Kat Nestel clips, Kristen. I like her alto (?) voice, even if I don’t much care for her singing style on these.

    Eta: I’m expecting to be able to hear that Voice clear over here on the other side of the state line. :) Happy birthday, David Cook!

  50. I am officially unworrying about David Archuleta’s trip from Boston to NY. He’s at the Build-a-Bear event now.

    I reserve the right to worry about the safety of the fans going to the concert tonight.

  51. Happy Birthday, David Cook and Anoop! Don’t think I said that here yet.

  52. …what bothers me about the term ‘simulated BJ’ ’ ¦Merriam Webster says simulated means ‘made to look genuine’  In no way did that look anywhere near a genuine BJ’ ¦just sayin’.

    ITA, perhaps ‘crotch nuzzle’  or ‘buckle buzz’  would be more apropos in this instance.

    the dancer in question wasn’t ‘nuzzling’ ,

    ‘nuzzle’  as a transitive verb, ‘to push against or rub with the nose, snout, muzzle, etc.’  does not specifically refer to the nuzzlee or nuzzler.

    Or maybe…in the stomack’ ¦ his aim was a bit off’ ¦

    Alternatively, ‘stomach smooch’  or “belly buss”.

  53. Alice Cooper’s Christmas Pudding provided something for everyone

    also were well-received, as was ‘American Idol’  veteran Scott MacIntyre.

    6 months “later” after AI and Scott is performing in his “hometown” and a very long article about last night’s Alice Cooper event and he is accorded the tail end of a single sentence.

    For me this says tons about the irrelevance of American Idol in the “real world” and that the few who have made a highly visible career off of the show have done so because of their own talent and drive.

    So out of 1k who tried out Scott made it to number 8 and he doesn’t even get any real kudos from his home town paper. The Idol bubble is really a very tiny one and really doesn’t have much influence on the sensibilities of the American public, even though the AI faithful tend to think they are the chosen few who help “discover” the talent that will make an impact on the music scene.

    So I am pretty confident in my own assumption that the “talent” of the individuals on American Idol will drive their futures, and not the votes of a few over-invested AI fans.

  54. Go Rage Against the Machine! I find it so hilarious yet totally appropriate that RATM is battling it out against Simon; if ever there were a machine that needed a good wrench thrown into it, it’s 19.

  55. perhaps we could just settle on ‘shoved a dancer’s head into his crotch and pelvic thrusted into his face for 3 seconds’ ? For short, SaDHIHCaPTIHFF3S.

    LOL, Kristen!!

  56. He was the first to do it live and without warning, and to an ‘unsuspecting’  audience,

    I guess you’ve never watched the Tony Awards. As Marc Shaiman and Scott Wittman, two out gay men (I think Marc proposed to Scott on stage at the Tonys, btw, and after the proposal, they kissed for a loooong time, as befits a romantic marriage proposal on stage at an awards ceremony) wrote in lyrics for Neil Patrick Harris, an out gay man, to sing: “This show could not be gayer if Liza was named mayor and Elton John took flight.”

    I think it was Denis O’Hare, another out gay man who enthusiastically kissed his partner in the audience before going on-stage to accept his Tony, who coined the “gayest night in television” thing. Although it may’ve been the happiest night in television, along with words about men kissing men and ladeda. I love Denis O’Hare, who is *definitely* a trailblazer.

    Ditto David Marshall Grant, who was part of a couple (with Peter Frechette) on “thirtysomething” wayyyyy back in 1989, when advertisers pulled out because the two were shown in bed together. DMG is now in charge of “Brothers and Sisters,” the show where the gay guys kiss all the time. On ABC.

  57. 6 months ‘later’  after AI and Scott is performing in his ‘hometown’  and a very long article about last night’s Alice Cooper event and he is accorded the tail end of a single sentence.

    For me this says tons about the irrelevance of American Idol in the ‘real world’  and that the few who have made a highly visible career off of the show have done so because of their own talent and drive.

    So out of 1k who tried out Scott made it to number 8 and he doesn’t even get any real kudos from his home town paper. The Idol bubble is really a very tiny one and really doesn’t have much influence on the sensibilities of the American public, even though the AI faithful tend to think they are the chosen few who help ‘discover’  the talent that will make an impact on the music scene.

    So I am pretty confident in my own assumption that the ‘talent’  of the individuals on American Idol will drive their futures, and not the votes of a few over-invested AI fans.

    Or this could just be saying Scott sucks. Also way more people than 1K tried out. Also without that show no one from the show would have a recording contract, so it is about the show and not just their level of talent.

  58. Eileen99

    I LOL’ed when I saw Kris’ tweet this morning.

    Fuse is a music video television station — that actually shows music videos!

  59. I am a huge RATM fan, so I hope they win this battle.

    And happy birthday to David C. and to Anoop!

  60. perhaps we could just settle on ‘shoved a dancer’s head into his crotch and pelvic thrusted into his face for 3 seconds’ ? For short, SaDHIHCaPTIHFF3S

    Too funny Kirsten!!!! Thanks for the S9 clip. I’m very ready for the new season.

    Hmm… swapping spit with someone of the same sex makes you some kind of trailblazer… who knew? :)

  61. Danny’s out in LA for a holiday charity event, expecting a big crowd. Some 7000+ people were lined up earlier today already for the event, and giveaway of various items thru the Dream Center programs.

    At LA Dream Center’s Xmas in City. Lots of energy here! Danny Gokey doin’ soundcheck.

    @DannyGokey at the LA SPORTS ARENA!!! http://tweetphoto.com/6841387

  62. Rage Against The Machine won it according to someone on UKMix –

    01. (80) Killing In the Name – RATM 502.6k
    02. (–) The Climb – Joe 450.8k

    Will need another hour before there’s any official confirmation (don’t cuont your chickens and all that).

  63. Don’t think it was anything to do with the kiss at all. It was the simulated bj.

  64. Hmm’ ¦ swapping spit with someone of the same sex makes you some kind of trailblazer’ ¦ who knew?

    Only to the extent that it’s part of the bigger picture, which Q3 summarized so eloquently below:

    He is a trailblazer because he is an openly gay man who is trying to become a successful pop/rock star and still be honest about who he is.

    And Rufus Wainwright, Scissor Sisters meme has been done to death, so I’m not going to bother responding except to say it’s not persuasive. at. all. – especially to the general media (aka outside world) who has recognized the courage it took for Adam to forge the open path he has.

  65. I love me some RATM and and I love their debut album that KITNO is on (Evil Empire is amazing too) too so I say GO GO GO! Go take Simon and his hugeass ego down!

    Happy birthday to Anoop and of course my boy David today! His b’day tweet to Anoop this morning made me go aww!

  66. Adam is a trailblazer in that the kiss was real, not a skit. I’m not sure how real it can be when only one person felt like doing it.

    Oh, you don’t think Adam felt like doing it? Or did you actually ask Tommy how he felt about it?

  67. perhaps we could just settle on ‘shoved a dancer’s head into his crotch and pelvic thrusted into his face for 3 seconds’ ? For short, SaDHIHCaPTIHFF3S.

    That made me giggle. :)

    I am SO ready for Season 9. Will have to check out the spoilers. It’s always fun to try to spot them in auditions.

  68. IMO, saying that Barbara Walters was saying that the man-on-man kiss was part of the lewdness is not really fair since she specifically said that they were not airing the objectionable parts.

    It gets really frustrating that the spin on all of this has been about ABC censoring a man-on-man kiss when they did no such thing. And I know I’ve mentioned this before, but in the exact same hour that Adam’s performance aired, ABC normally airs Brothers & Sisters which has featured numerous man-on-man kisses, men lying in bed together post-coital, and, even more importantly, IMO, a sensitive and realistic portrayal of a homosexual relationship on a show about all sorts of complicated family and romantic relationships. In my mind, it is that type of portrayal that helps to go a long way in the acceptance of homosexuality. It’s even worse that other news outlets like CBS get all high and mighty about them not “banning” Adam, but then they actually censor the Adam-Tommy kiss whilst showing the Madona-Britney kiss.

    On another issue, I do think that Adam is a trailblazer in that he is the first popstar in America, I believe, to begin his career while being an out gay man. But, he is one of many, many trailblazers, and many of whom started blazing the trail when this country was far more homophobic.

  69. Kris fans not already following @krinja_signal might want to – she regularly posts pictures & concert videos – she just put up a link to the official radio station videos from the Philly concert last week.

    Apparently a few of Kris’ songs have started to appear on Hit Predictor – The Truth, CSA, BWCU, and WAOMF.

  70. What I liked about the Psych. article was the conclusion that Tiger was hurt badly by his “scandal” but Adam wasn’t by his (a “scandal,” really? . . . okay) because Adam’s been who he is PRETTY consistently all along.

    I’m not at all saying sexy/rauchy/lewd (depending on how you see it) is ALL he is by any means (I think he’s complex, lots of sides, love them all), but by the time of the AMA’s there’d already been a LOT out there indicating that’s part of his “thang,” too (the pictures, u-tubes, the RS cover and article, Details shoot, Out Mag. interview, etc.), – he didn’t try to portray himself as an “angel” as FYE’s lyrics say (or a “babysitter” as he likes to say).

    So, for Adam there is little negative blowback(?), and even some plusses, while for Tiger – pretty much, all bad. (Which is, to me, of course completely logical since Adam was harmlessly (IMHO) playing around and Tiger was, evidently, seriously playing around). Tiger loses sponsorships (does he care? I wonder . . . how much money can anyone spend in the end?). Adam . . . well, he picked up Gridlock, The View, has Rob Marshall’s interest and Dior sniffing around . . .

  71. The difference to me with Tiger is that he has more control over his career than Adam does. Adam’s career depends on people liking the product he puts out. Tiger’s career depends on him playing well and winning. So, ultimately, Adam relies more on the goodwill of the people than Tiger does. I’m sure there might be a little lull in Tiger’s sponsorships, but seriously, as soon as the guy goes out there and spectacularly wins another tournament (especially a major), pretty much no one will care anymore that he slept around.

  72. Incidentally, I also find it amusing that the author of the Psychology Today article chose to incorporate the quote of a squeeing, “happily married ‘hetero’ woman” who felt compelled to say, “[T]he Adam/Tommy kiss is one of the hottest things I have ever seen. … In my mind, it is not a homosexual image, or a bisexual image, it is just simply a HOT SEXUAL image. …”

    This gives me hope that one day I, too, could be quoted in Psychology Today.

  73. I’m sure there might be a little lull in Tiger’s sponsorships, but seriously, as soon as the guy goes out there and spectacularly wins another tournament (especially a major), pretty much no one will care anymore that he slept around.

    Another difference is the huge personal loss Tiger is facing, with a broken marriage and lost trust from colleges and family.

  74. Just saw that Kris’ performance on Letterman is going to re-air on Christmas

  75. I’m anti-RATM on this one because that Facebook group was stupid and hateful and because it’s anti-Joe. I’m betting a lot of it is Simon’s fault and Joe will be known as “the X Factor winner who didn’t get #1” and Simon and the media will beat him up. Beat him up. Still like him cuz he hits them up. Hits them up.

    Bolded parts are important.

    And just the name Rage Against the Machine is unattractive.

  76. It’s official, Rage Against The Machine won it. Last day surge in downloads won it for them.

    A couple things of note – largest ever one week download, and first Christmas number one to rely on downloads only.

  77. Today, December 20, 2009, 9 minutes ago |
    At the dream center event watching thousands of la families receive christmas bikes and gifts! Danny gokey performing now

  78. from LA

    Today, December 20, 2009, 6 minutes ago |
    Mdez (Matthew)
    Getting ready to head out to give away 8,000 bikes with @dannygokey @Criscilla @CoffeyAnderson and @AmandaMJayne http://twitpic.com/udpvk

    Short video from @coffeyanderson showing all the bikes lined up at that arena, quite an undertaking. http://www.twitvid.com/0EA52

  79. It’s official, Rage Against The Machine won it. Last day surge in downloads won it for them.

    Son of a biscuit eating bulldog, why do my winners always lose?

    Kris Allen gets lowest sales for an Idol winner.
    Joe McElderry loses to a hateful campaign.

    I don’t give a crap that Simon getting beat, I give a crap that Joe will get flak for a while from the stupid media for being “the X Factor winner who didn’t get #1”.

    Kris will always just be known as “the guy who beat Adam Lambert so he sucks” and Joe will always be known as “the X Factor winner who didn’t get #1 so he sucks”.

    The media is damn horrible.

    Well, at least now I get to post this, although I didn’t really want to have to. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtMO-omeo5s

  80. Ever since someone at the LA Times referred to AL in his AMA performance as an “oral sex mime,” well, I just can’t get into these convos so much. I just think “oral sex mime!” and I start giggling. Ah, well.

  81. Matt’s having fun it seems

    http://twitpic.com/udkgc

    Interesting set of priorities when you get some money, but he earned it and he can spend it. How’s his career doing…anyone interested in signing him?

  82. And just the name Rage Against the Machine is unattractive.

    I don’t think fighting the powers that be, is supposed to be “attractive.”

    Anyhew, I was looking at some live Prodigy YouTubes last night and found out that on the front page of their offical website that they were urging their fans to get the RATM song. And Killing In The Name is a really solid angry, political rock song. The video for Bulls On Parade is better, but the song of KITMO is better, in my opinion. Oh and while looking at live Prodigy videos (their Omen and Take Me To The Hospital are pretty good and have some old skool Prodigy sounds) I saw a video of RATM killing in the name of and the X-Factor crew –so its kind of relevant and funny, video here: Even has a Guest SuBo appearance!

  83. Just saw that Kris’ performance on Letterman is going to re-air on Christmas

    Really? Haha, yes, Letterman “got it”.

    Incidentally, my musician son came home from college yesterday. He is no Idol fan, but sort of liked Kris because he plays instruments. Hated LLWD and all the processed stuff on the album, though. I showed him the Letterman vid, and he tried but failed to keep a smirk off his face, and finally said “looks like something I would do”, then said he’d been to an Ugly Christmas Sweater party at school last week.

  84. I’m actually so happy that RATM won. Rage against the machine – and that’s exactly what happened. I have nothing against Joe, he’s sweet boring singer with adorable smile, but that’s not about him, it’s about laziness and smugness of mister Simon Cowell and about his shameless machine. I hope this is going to be a good lesson for Cowell.

  85. Matt’s having fun it seems

    http://twitpic.com/udkgc

    Interesting set of priorities when you get some money, but he earned it and he can spend it. How’s his career doing’ ¦anyone interested in signing him?

    I think that’s just a rental car, and he’s kidding. He was tweeting about someone giving him access to a car earlier in the week, around the same day he went to visit Danny and they sent out a pic and bubbletweet together.

    I didn’t see much detail, but appears he is doing more recording in Nashville, and didn’t he say something on twitter about working to get out an EP? (on his own, I think)

    From Matt’s twitter

    Friday, December 18, 2009, 8:20:08 PM
    ImMattGiraud: Enjoying a nice dinner here in Nashvegas. Soo I get to drive a Corvette all week.. Pray for the Nashvillians.

    Yesterday, December 19, 2009, 12:03:55 AM
    ImMattGiraud: Together again!! Two duuuuu’s acting straight crazy http://twitpic.com/u4mc5

    Yesterday, December 19, 2009, 2:05:54 AM
    ImMattGiraud: It was great seeing ya @dannygokey I actually made it home. Spun out a couple times but I’m getting the hang of it! Recording tomorrow! Nite

    Yesterday, December 19, 2009, 4:05:21 PM
    ImMattGiraud: In the studio with @tweepez recording “I Miss You Tonight”. Trying to make it sound puuurty ;)

  86. Brittany Murphy died today

    (I know, no idol related but still shocking)

    OMG – that is a major shock. Aww so sad.

  87. I don’t give a crap that Simon getting beat, I give a crap that Joe will get flak for a while from the stupid media for being ‘the X Factor winner who didn’t get #1’ ³.

    Simon certainly does push peoples buttons. Let’s face it, one reason I have read for some people voting for Kris instead of Adam was that they were pissed at Simon for pushing Adam down their throats. So it seems like there are people on both sides of the pond have authority issues with Simon (daddy?)

    It’s too bad when people end up punishing talented contestants because of their personal distaste for Simon.

    ETA-I actually don’t know much about the XFACTOR thing so who knows, maybe Joe sucks? I am leaving my mind open on the idea that people just weren’t that into him. But having read remarks about Simon, I also think the “stick it to Simon” group may be responsible for the outcome.

  88. Ligeya
    12/20/2009 at 2:24 pm
    I’m actually so happy that RATM won. Rage against the machine ‘“ and that’s exactly what happened. I have nothing against Joe, he’s sweet boring singer with adorable smile, but that’s not about him, it’s about laziness and smugness of mister Simon Cowell and about his shameless machine. I hope this is going to be a good lesson for Cowell.

    The global cheer for taking down Simon Cowell is pretty impressive. But I actually think the competition may have helped Joe because I don’t follow X-Factor and only paid attention because I like RATM a lot, and don’t like Simon very much.

    Overall I think that it just made Joe more famous — and he is quite likeable and a pleasant singer.

  89. Brittany Murphy died today

    (I know, no idol related but still shocking)

    Holy shit. :(

  90. Wow that’s a shock about Brittney Murphy. My god life is scary.

    There will be video of the anthem today, a couple of people took video but haven’t got home yet to upload it.

  91. It’s also too bad when talented contestants get shafted because Simon decides that one person is the best ever OMG he just has to win or else it will be a horrible tragedy.

  92. Except no matter which way you spin it, it still ends up being about Joe. Eh. Well, not a great way to start a day. I think it’s because Simon chose “The Climb”. Which also makes me mad at Miley Cyrus. I don’t respect her anyway after the “Party in the U.S.A” crap about Jay-Z.

    Joe gets publicity, but tbh I don’t really care about that either. I care that a hateful campaign against him won (well, supposedly it was anti-Simon, but by association it was anti-Joe). Hate against the innocent should never win. Ever. Simon’s not gonna learn anything at all.

    And holy crap @ Brittany Murphy dying. How unexpected. R.I.P.

    And are we 100% sure on that? I still have trust issues with TMZ, for some reason >_>.

  93. Whoa! What a shock about Brittney Murphy. Didn’t see that one coming. So sad.

    In other news, Happy Birthday to DC and Anoop!

  94. Oh yeah, I totally forgot about those two. Happy birthday Cook and Anoop!

    Remembering birthdays can sure take the pain off of something, birthdays are happy days!

  95. And are we 100% sure on that? I still have trust issues with TMZ, for some reason >_>.

    Got you… but they did reported Michael Jackson death right…

  96. And are we 100% sure on that? I still have trust issues with TMZ, for some reason >_>.

    TMZ shouldn’t be trusted, to make it Idol related, witness their latest thing with Kris and the Tiger Wood phone thing? and I don’t go to their site to give them hits, but they’re typically right about deaths, if not always causes of them. And whoa about Britney dying.

    Oh and good to hear about RATM. Joe is a nice kid, but not a great singer and The Climb is Miley Cyrus crap, so I don’t mind RATM winning. Go them. And Killing In The Name is a good angry song, so I’m happy for it and Joe saying that stuff about it? whatever dude. Grow up.

    ETA: hope Anoop and Cook both have happy birthdays. Signing the NA for the Chiefs probably made this a very cool one for Cookie already.

  97. The global cheer for taking down Simon Cowell is pretty impressive.

    Actually, I quite like Simon Cowell on American idol. He’s definitely very good TV personality with great sense of humour, and I heard that he’s a really nice guy in real life. But I was annoyed with him all season on XF and after last season ended. I think the fact that he’s The Boss on this show makes him unberable (one of the reasons why I don’t want to see idol being replaced by american XF). He became lazy, he became predictable, his sense of entitlement is sickening. I hope this situation will be a good lesson for him.

  98. I don’t followTMZ religiously but would they publish something THIS serious if they didn’t have some concrete info? This is different than typical celebrity gossip. They got trashed and were called liars when they posted about MJ’s death before anyone else confirmed it so I tend to trust them on this.

  99. To go along with Kris’s Letterman appearance being re-aired on Christmas night, it looks like other idol appearances may be re-aired. From twitter @h2oconvo:

    More reruns: Allison on Kimmel 12/28, Adam on Chelsea Lately 12/24. OOOH! And THE MUPPETS in the performance slot on Fallon 12/23! BoRap!
    less than a minute ago from web

    Not only is Kris’ Letterman being re-aired on Xmas Day, but his Conan performance is being shown on New Year’s Day http://tinyurl.com/1hgh
    7 minutes ago from web

  100. TMZ shouldn’t be trusted, to make it Idol related, witness their latest thing with Kris and the Tiger Wood phone thing? and I don’t go to their site to give them links, but they’re right about deaths, if not always causes of them.

    Oh and good to hear about RATM. Joe is a nice kid, but not a great singer and The Climb is Miley Cyrus crap, so I don’t mind RATM winning. Go them. And Killing In The Name is a good angry song, so I’m happy for it and Joe saying that stuff about it? whatever dude. Grow up.

    Yeah, TMZ was pretty bad to Archie last year, too.

    TBH I really probably would care a little less if that stupid Facebook group wasn’t made and idiots across the world hated Joe for no reason. “Good angry song” is kinda an oxymoron in my book. Unless we’re talking about something like El Viernes Te Olvido Yo and not something that gives off a an overly strong “f*** you” vibe. And RATM is not my type of music at all, anyway. What did Joe say about it?

    And I still hate Simon for choosing that stupid Miley Cyrus song and for being Simon.

  101. I’ve got a page up in a separate window with the news articles popping up every few seconds and so far, the articles on Brittany Murphy are going back to the TMZ source.

  102. Except no matter which way you spin it, it still ends up being about Joe. Eh. Well, not a great way to start a day. I think it’s because Simon chose ‘The Climb’ . Which also makes me mad at Miley Cyrus. I don’t respect her anyway after the ‘Party in the U.S.A’  crap about Jay-Z.

    Joe gets publicity, but tbh I don’t really care about that either. I care that a hateful campaign against him won (well, supposedly it was anti-Simon, but by association it was anti-Joe). Hate against the innocent should never win. Ever. Simon’s not gonna learn anything at all.

    True. It’ll be ugly if the press decides to paint this as a battle against Joe versus 19E and Cowell. (And what is there for Simon to learn from this? Does anyone honestly think he’s just going to close up shop or some nonsense?)

    Musically, I’m really ambivalent. One is overly sentimental dreck. The other is, IMO, a pretty dumb song posing as politics but really is just blind resistance that doesn’t know its object. The latter is more fun, but it’s not like musical quality is going to be really impinged on either way here.

    On the other hand, while I do feel a little bad for Joe with having to deal with that kind of press, I still stick to my prior apathy. Let the resistance to the 19E machine have their day. It’s not proving as much as they’d like it to, anyway. (And the taste of irony has yet to leave my senses) Hopefully, it’ll embarrass the Great Cowell personally, which would make this all worth it.

  103. FYE as $9.99 Last Minute Gift from Best Buy weekly ad:

    from http://bestbuy.shoplocal.com/bestbuy/default.aspx?action=entryflash&adref=header

    Is this week typically a good week for Idol album sales? I would think it would be, but I’ve never followed sales numbers before. Adam’s album was in the top 20 endcap at FYE yesterday. (They had a separate area for bestsellers in Christmas music.) Also, Walgreens has a disply selling Adam, SuBo, Kris and Carrie cds. Last minute Christmas gifts! lol

  104. I just say we smash Simon for inadvertently creating bad publicity for innocent people who wanna get a good starting in the music career for his own good, but I wouldn’t have done it by attempting to defeat an innocent person >_>. Heh, I talk about this like it’s a crime. Kinda hypocritical since I hate anger, so I guess I’ll calm down >_>.

    Joe tweeted happily about it but still, media media MEDIA! AAAHHHHHHH! I need to get an athletic cup!

  105. ‘Good angry song’  is kinda an oxymoron in my book

    ???????????

    Really? I think jumping up and down to “Killing In The Name Of” to be one of the most theraputic actions possible… and I’m actually a very “normal” unrebellious person in my every day life, but there’s always some sort of anger about things- especially the big “corporate” machines you feel are controlling everyone else’s life and gaining profit off of us small folk… And so it’s delightful to scream out “F@@#$! YOU I WON’T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME! AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGHHHHHHHH!!!!!”

    Maybe you should try it some time, hee hee ;-)

  106. I don’t followTMZ religiously but would they publish something THIS serious if they didn’t have some concrete info? This is different than typical celebrity gossip. They got trashed and were called liars when they posted about MJ’s death before anyone else confirmed it so I tend to trust them on this.

    TMZ gets a bad rap, and they do some sensationalist and mean-spirited reporting for sure, but I don’t think there’s a better connected news source in the L.A. area for this kind of information. Their paid sources are pretty ubiquitous. If they’re reporting that Brittany Murphy died, she probably did.

    (That said, I’ll admit that my first reaction was, “Who?”, rather than any state of shock. Though it is too bad for her, family, friends, etc., I’m not going to pretend I had a connection that I clearly didn’t, as a fan or anything else)

  107. Brittany Murphy died today

    (I know, no idol related but still shocking)

    Oh come on, EVERYTHING is Idol-related, with just a little bit of effort.

    Brittany Murphy co-starred in the movie 8 Mile with Eminem.

  108. The report about Brittany Murphy dying of a heart attack is all over the internet now, with several more “legit” news sources carrying the story, although the source cited is still TMZ.

    This is very sad news if true. Only 32 yrs old

  109. Ken Baker from E! News just tweeted that it’s true.

    kenbakernow: Yes, sadly, looks like reports are true. Just got LA official to confirm a Brittany Murphy has died. Developing…

  110. And RATM is not my type of music at all, anyway. What did Joe say about it?

    Evidently Joe finally heard it and commented on it, I have no idea about NME as a source, but mj posted a link to them yesterday, and this is from a related article on that page so… NME article with Joe’s words about RATM And as I said yesterday when hearing about this, why does he think that Grandmothers are going to hear the song? It’s not like they’re going to be forced to hear it in their home when boiling those veggies into mush for xmas dinner.

  111. luval
    12/20/2009 at 3:23 pm
    Everything happens in three’s

    Well that’s a cheery thought for the beginning of Christmas week!

  112. I remember Brittany Murphy best from Clueless and 8 Mile. But she was also the voice of Gloria in Happy Feet and of Luanne on the tv series King of the Hill.

    And if you really want an Idol tie-in, there’s this — she appeared in 2 episodes of Kris’ all-time favorite tv show, Boy Meets World…

    [source: imdb.com]

  113. I listened to the Rage Against the Machine song and would rather hear The Climb any day of the week. Angry sounding songs grate on my ears. Protest songs don’t have to sound like the singer is grinding up gravel with his teeth and spitting it out through his mouth (along with a few teeth) IMHO.

    Nasty business, but hey it’s Britain’s fight so don’t really care. I’m sure it won’t hurt Joe in the long run, or Simon for that matter.

  114. Tess
    12/20/2009 at 3:25 pm
    luval
    12/20/2009 at 3:23 pm
    Everything happens in three’s

    Well that’s a cheery thought for the beginning of Christmas week!

    Bwahaahhahah
    Sorry- your dry humour just cracked me up there…(NOT laughing at the tragic untimely death of anyone- RIP Brittany- it’s just that I was thinking along the same lines- and I don’t even celebrate Christmas!)

  115. Evidently Joe finally heard it and commented on it, I have no idea about NME as a source,

    New Musical Express is a very well-respected British music magazine. Fun Fact: Chrissie Hynde of the Pretenders wrote for them before she became a rock star…

  116. There’s a Mediabase Top 50 CHR/Pop update post over on the Pulse board (huh, someone must still have a working PW, unless this chart is accessible to anyone):

    Looking good for both Kris and Adam (as well as for Kelly and Chris Daughtry):

    SUNDAY MORNING UPDATE:

    LW TW
    1 1 IYAZ Replay 10077 9115 962 58.966
    5 2 KESHA Tik Tok 9124 7971 1153 60.799
    2 3 OWL CITY Fireflies 8979 8823 156 48.628
    6 4 LADY GAGA Bad Romance 8483 7431 1052 59.993
    3 5 JASON DERULO Whatcha Say 8403 8760 -357 47.462
    4 6 BRITNEY SPEARS 3 7947 8713 -766 51.145
    8 7 DAVID GUETTA Sexy Chick f/Akon 7045 6717 328 49.732
    9 8 JAY-Z Empire State Of Mind… 6849 6473 376 49.77
    >> 7 9 KELLY CLARKSON Already Gone 6162 7240 -1078 36.242
    11 10 JAY SEAN Down f/Lil Wayne 5705 6285 -580 34.615
    12 11 BEYONCE Sweet Dreams 5518 6129 -611 34.438
    10 12 LADY GAGA Paparazzi 5510 6315 -805 31.321
    17 13 TAYLOR SWIFT Fifteen 4520 4145 375 25.453
    16 14 JAY SEAN Do You Remember 4506 4148 358 27.037
    13 15 MILEY CYRUS Party In The USA 4428 5578 -1150 24.385
    15 16 CASCADA Evacuate The Dancefl… 4350 4593 -243 24.927
    19 17 BOYS LIKE GIRLS Two Is Better Than O… 3994 3731 263 20.397
    18 18 KINGS OF LEON Use Somebody 3642 3891 -249 22.94
    14 19 BLACK EYED PEAS Meet Me Halfway 3531 4647 -1116 25.295
    21 20 ORIANTHI According To You 3452 3048 404 19.844
    22 21 RIHANNA Hard f/Jeezy 3058 2602 456 17.645
    20 22 COLBIE CAILLAT Fallin’ For You 2969 3443 -474 16.607
    25 23 JUSTIN BIEBER One Less Lonely Girl 2715 2299 416 11.891
    23 24 SHINEDOWN If You Only Knew 2692 2559 133 10.576
    24 25 SHAKIRA Give It Up To Me 2507 2534 -27 13.059
    26 26 DRAKE KANYE LIL WAYNE EMINEM Forever 2441 1999 442 16.638
    >> 30 27 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dyin… 2125 1850 275 12.14
    29 28 WE THE KINGS Heaven Can Wait 2035 1904 131 6.236
    28 29 NICKELBACK Never Gonna Be Alone 2023 1925 98 7.522
    32 30 LADY GAGA Telephone f/Beyonce 1788 1405 383 14.311
    >> 31 31 DAUGHTRY Life After You 1737 1638 99 5.917
    27 32 JAY-Z/RIHANNA/KANYE WEST Run This Town 1641 1972 -331 10.031
    39 33 TIMBALAND Carry Out f/Justin T… 1301 895 406 9.125
    36 34 THE SCRIPT Breakeven 1198 1013 185 4.261
    34 35 ONEREPUBLIC All The Right Moves 1192 1039 153 5.028
    >> 44 36 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 1155 734 421 8.717

  117. they’re working on wwfm..,.,

    from Twitter…

    claytonmjohnson working on Adam Lambert’s music video all night. should be very interesting lol about 2 hours ago

  118. luvadamlambert
    12/20/2009 at 3:49 pm
    they’re working on wwfm..,.,

    from Twitter’ ¦

    claytonmjohnson working on Adam Lambert’s music video all night. should be very interesting lol about 2 hours ago

    Thanks luv!
    Now, what does he mean INTERESTING??
    I’m INTERESTED!

  119. Girlygirl, That chart and other interesting music stuff is available at:

    http://www.allaccess.com/

    You need to register but it’s free and quite simple. It’s not as useful as the full Mediabase site but will allow you to see top 50 songs plus taking off, spin increase info for songs not in the Top 50.

  120. Excited to hear they are shooting the WWFM video tonight. I wonder if they might premiere it at the Gridlock NYE party? They will probably have video screens up at that event, right?

  121. Totally not a numbers person but I do find it interesting to look at the media chart and see both the audience impressions and the spin changes. Jason Derulo’s new song picked up about the same number of spins that his old song lost. And Black Eyed Peas are moving up faster than their old song is moving down. And Keisha had a 1000 less spins but played to about 2 million more people than the number 1 song.

    And, shit, BEP jumped 12 spots in a week and Jesse McCartney fell 14. And, yea, Miley is loosing spins by the boatloads, and Lady GaGa gained all that Miley lost. This is kinda fun….even more fun than listening to the radio.

  122. David C wishes Anoop D a happy bday. Aww.

    thedavidcook There was something I was supposed to do today… What was it… Oh yeah! Happy Bday @AnoopDoggDesai!

    Also, David C ho’s hissellf out for his favorite charity:

    thedavidcook Oh and if anyone wanted to get me anything for mine, go here and donate. http://www.braintumorcommunity.org

  123. More on the WWFM MV

    From JuliannaMilton

    What a Sunday. Shooting the Adam Lambert music video tonight!
    4 minutes ago from MySpace

    Name Julianna Milton
    Location Jacksonville, FL going on LA
    Web http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2845638/
    Bio We’ll journey on, guided by urges and aspirations.

  124. Kris’ spincrease didn’t take too big a hit for losing the AT40 spins from Saturday, but might see a lower spincrease tomorrow because I think some stations play AT40 on Sunday, too? Fortunately, he should pick those bulk spins back up after the first of the year, so I’m hopeful he’ll be on the program when they resume.

    Girlygirl, you can still get this chart – and you can change it to HAC if you swap out the format from “1” to “3”.

    http://www.mediabase.com/mmrweb/insideradio/charts.asp?format=1&showyear=y&dpt=n

    LLWD is #12 at HAC this morning, but if I understand correctly, his official peak will still be #15 from last Monday morning until the first January chart.

  125. They worked on WWFM MV yesterday at Sunset Studios, filmed last night and are filming more of the WWFM MV tonight. Looks like it would be out before the end of the years.

  126. saga
    12/20/2009 at 4:09 pm
    I guess Lindsey Lohan was dissed’ ¦

    That’s funny! Smart man Mr. Lambert!

  127. This is kinda fun’ ¦.even more fun than listening to the radio.

    And just when you think you have it all figured and mapped out, momentum can shift on a dime and everything changes. A few weeks ago, LLWD had lost momentum at CHR, then for whatever reason cam roaring back. It’s been pretty darned consistent at HAC and has been among the leaders in spincrease every week, so that seems destined for Top 10 easily. It’s all relative and dependent on what songs around you on the chart are doing. Kris was stuck at around 32-34 for ages on Top 40 because he was moving with a pack at around the same pace, and no songs were dropping above him.

    And yes, it is fun.

    ETA: And Kirsten and LadyM, feel free to correct me if I’ve said anything wrong as I’m a novice chart watcher as you know. However, I know you’ll agree with the “it’s fun” part of my comment.

  128. I wonder if Adam will have a male or female partner on the WWFM video. I mean, it is a romantic song and the video must show a relationship right? I worry that if he has a female some people will say that he is selling out, and if he has a male some people will be turned off by it. Anyway, I don’t care, as long as Adam is his amazingly beautiful self.

  129. saga
    12/20/2009 at 4:09 pm
    I guess Lindsey Lohan was dissed’ ¦

    LOL!
    Saga- I am totally gonna seek you out if I ever come to Sweden (it is Sweden, isn’t it??)

  130. Sweden it is…

    Lindsey tweeted that she wanted to be in Adams next video (after the SYTYCD performance?).

  131. Really? I think jumping up and down to ‘Killing In The Name Of’  to be one of the most theraputic actions possible’ ¦ and I’m actually a very ‘normal’  unrebellious person in my every day life, but there’s always some sort of anger about things- especially the big ‘corporate’  machines you feel are controlling everyone else’s life and gaining profit off of us small folk’ ¦ And so it’s delightful to scream out ‘F@@#$! YOU I WON’T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME! AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGHHHHHHHH!!!!!’ 

    Amen. Love that song.
    And Simon…shame on you. Your version of The Climb is worse than the No Boundaries song that you made so much fun of.

  132. claytonmjohnson

    Yes all you Adam Lambert fan’s, it’s the video for WWFM
    8 minutes ago from txt

  133. from JuliannaMilton

    Wow, looked at my inbox and have an influx of followers! From the music video post. Can’t wait to twitter what goes on tonight : ) 2 minutes ago from web

  134. The music industry restructuring is continuing to intensify. Several of the smaller entertainment companies are on the financial edge. Early today, Citadel Broadcasting, the nation’s third biggest radio broadcaster [224 stations] entered bankruptcy reorganization [Chapter 11] filing a voluntary petition with the bankruptcy court in New York.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5BI26A20091220

    This not a surprise, Citadel has been trying to restucture its debt load for months and was expected to file Chapter 11 for a few weeks — but it just is adding to the tension in an already financially stressed industry. And yead-end numbers for the record label division are not expected to be very good.

    Overall the economic pressure on the music industry is making broascasting firms more agressive to increase non-advertising revenue streams and the record labels/entertainment companies much more tight fisted. Budgets across the industry are getting slashed — even for some major “bankable” artists. For Kris, Adam and Allison, I think that means that the budgets for touring and future promotion will be tight. I am particularly worried about how much more effort/money will be invested in Allison at this point.

  135. I am glad Adam is filming a music video for WWFM. I think it will probably sell even more than FYE, and that one was really good.

  136. no problem mr:)

    I worry that if he has a female some people will say that he is selling out, and if he has a male some people will be turned off by it.

    you’re right.sometimes Adam just can’t win….

  137. from JuliannaMilton

    Wow, looked at my inbox and have an influx of followers! From the music video post. Can’t wait to twitter what goes on tonight : ) 2 minutes ago from web

    I hope she doesn’t tweet like Jasen kaplan did for the album cover sheet.it’s fun to know what’s going on,but i would rather wait for the final product then get something now that isnt great(coughmichelinmancough)

  138. I am particularly worried about how much more effort/money will be invested in Allison at this point.

    me too.I still don’t understand what Allison’s target audience is.It could be people who like her voice(I mean older people,who love the rock-ness of her voice) .But her album is loaded with tween-y music and I don’t think any Tweens are into her(maybe they’re too wrapped up in the jobros?).

  139. Looks like it would be out before the end of the years.

    Anything is possible, but it seems to normally take about two weeks for a video to go from filming to being released.

    And just when you think you have it all figured and mapped out, momentum can shift on a dime and everything changes.

    Sure can. One day you’ve got momentum and a few days later you are falling. You can also be just about to reach a milestone and some song nips in and blocks you out (see Daughtry just outside the top 30 or possibly Kris in a few weeks just outside the top 10 on HAC). You can also be saved by other songs. Look at the hang time Kings of Leon are getting for “Use Somebody” on Pop. Just when it looks like it might fall out of the top 20 and go recurrent, some other song tumbles past it keeping it at 17-18th spot for weeks. Most songs keep pretty steady, but you can never count your spins before they happen.

    I see LLWD has risen to 25 again on iTunes. It’s had a pretty good week bouncing around the 23-29 range.

  140. ???????????

    Really? I think jumping up and down to ‘Killing In The Name Of’  to be one of the most theraputic actions possible’ ¦ and I’m actually a very ‘normal’  unrebellious person in my every day life, but there’s always some sort of anger about things- especially the big ‘corporate’  machines you feel are controlling everyone else’s life and gaining profit off of us small folk’ ¦ And so it’s delightful to scream out ‘F@@#$! YOU I WON’T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME! AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGHHHHHHHH!!!!!’ 

    Maybe you should try it some time, hee hee ;-)

    No offense, but I disagree. There are so many better ways to challenge the big corporate machines and anger just makes things much worse. Angry protest is grating to me, though. My opinion is that anger just begets violence and hostility, so it’s pointless.

    I kinda agree with Joe but WTF @ the way he said it, seems uncharacteristic of him >_>. Oh well. I would’ve given them more points just for “standing up to the man” but the method is all wrong, IMO.

    Still completely shocked about Brittany Murphy. Anything on where exactly she was found? All I got is that she was near where she lived….

    By the way, my Idol-related birthday present isn’t here yet. EEK I’m so excited for it!

  141. Still completely shocked about Brittany Murphy. Anything on where exactly she was found? All I got is that she was near where she lived’ ¦.

    Here is the report from the AP confirming the news basically and an article from the Charlotte Examiner that came from TMZ:

    According to TMZ, a call to 911 was made at around 8:00 a.m. from the home of Simon Monjack, Murphy’s husband. The actress was taken to Cedars-Sinai Medical Center by emergency services. Apparently, her mother found her unconscious in the shower.

    Murphy was pronounced dead at 10:04 a.m.

  142. Good job David Cook on the Anthem. Sounded great!

    It’s also his birthday today, but the Chiefs didn’t cooperate. They lost. :(

  143. David Cook sang the National Anthem at the Chief’s Game Today.

    Thanks Aileen! I’ve been anxious to see that and thanks to Angie too. :)

  144. Wow he did a great job. He did not look nervous. Great. Thanks for posting and Angie for posting the youtube.

  145. Here’s today’s numbers from MediaBase for WWFM — this is a huge increase for the Saturday before Christmas. Many new stations are starting to spin WWFM — WIOQ Philadelphia just started spinning it a couple of days ago — probable Add for this week. Which gives WWFM 6 of the top 10 stations in the US.

    POP:

    44 36 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 1155 734 421 8.717
    +103 Spins
    +118 Bullet
    +0.714 AI

    I expected WWFM to make a big move right after the New Year but looks like it is starting to blow up now. It isn’t the first song to do this, but mark me very surprised. [Although I will not be surprised if it stalls for the holiday week.]

  146. Very nice anthem by Cookie – too bad the Chiefs couldn’t pull out that win for his birthday :) .

  147. There won’t be any adds this week. Part of the holiday freeze is that stations don’t report adds for the next two weeks.

  148. It’s my favorite song on Adam’s CD am so happy it’s doing so well. I liked FYE to wish that would have took off better. But at least my favorite is doing the job.

  149. Speaking of Cookie, I hope this hasn’t been posted already, but just in case it hasn’t:

    From AI Now:

    Submit Your Questions For Our Interview With David Cook

    His musical style changed “American Idol” forever, his debut album rose to unprecedented heights and he just completed what was probably the longest tour in “Idol” history. Now the man who breaks the boundaries is getting ready to do it all over again with his upcoming sophomore album from 19E/RCA.

    On December 30th, our Ashleigh Stokrp will have the pleasure of sitting down with David Cook for an exclusive one-on-one interview.

    And, we are giving you the chance to get your questions answered! Leave your questions for David below as comments by clicking on “Add A Comment”. All questions are due by Monday, December 28th at 3pm ET.

    Check back in early 2010 to see the interview. And, be sure to follow @TheDavidCook and @AINow on twitter!

  150. No offense, but I disagree. There are so many better ways to challenge the big corporate machines and anger just makes things much worse. Angry protest is grating to me, though. My opinion is that anger just begets violence and hostility, so it’s pointless.

    Maybe I missed what they were saying, But I thought they were saying they just like angry music when they’re feeling angry. It’s true for me, anyway, so maybe I was projecting. Instead of keeping it in and steaming, I blast Marylin Manson or something for a couple of hours, just to blow off steam. It’s not a form of protest, and it doesn’t affect anybody else, nobody else is around when I do it. And it’s not a way to beget violence and hostility, it’s a way to get rid of it. If I’m angry I’ll be a bitch to everybody, whether they deserve it or not. So I play angry music to regain my equilibrium.
    We all feel anger at something or other, and some of us listen to angry music to diffuse that anger. It may seem odd to you, maybe, but there it is.

    Though, yes, obviously getting this song up to number one on the UK charts is a form of protest, I just thought this was a different conversation.

  151. I don’t think any Tweens are into her(maybe they’re too wrapped up in the jobros?).

    You would be a very good judge of this, luvadamlambert! I work with teens all the time in my job, and I agree with you.

  152. Heh tierbee ‘“ saw that earlier. Here’s the same dude trying his hand at Permanent. Was it David Cook week on Estonian Idol?:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzQK33FRx2w

    I wish i could tell you because i live in Estonia, unfortunately i have not been watching TV at all for months so i have no idea whats been going on. lol

  153. I just listened to David Cook singing the Anthem via the youtube link – He did fantastic! Oh how I love his voice. and that’s the way I like the Anthem – simple, but powerful. melodic but no extra vocal fluorishes.

    Happy Birthday Cookie!

  154. That SSB is fantastic. Sorry the Chiefs lost on David’s b-day but happy the Browns won! (My team!)

  155. It’s hard to tell with AT40 or OHP spins whether or not those “new” stations are really spinning it during their normal programming, or if the spins are part of the bulk spins from AT40 or OHP. For instance, KIIS played LLWD twice, but those were part of the AT40 countdown, not because they chose to play the song as part of their own playlist. It depends on the number of spins you see as well as time of day in order to tell – so as I have learned, those spins don’t always translate to adds to a station’s regular playlist.

    ETA: Congrats David Cook for the opportunity to sing the NA at the Chiefs game! Pretty cool…

  156. dcglam,maybe it’s also because she’s from idol?(I think the general reaction to idol now is an eyeroll or ‘ ughhhhh I hate that show’)
    oh well.(I’m trying to think positive -ish.becuz of 24 in.snow chritmas break started early!:))

  157. Here’s the same dude trying his hand at Permanent. Was it David Cook week on Estonian Idol?:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzQK33FRx2w

    That was a little strange. I never imagined others covering Permanent.

    I looked the guy up on Wiki and it seems that he won Estonian Idol. Good for him and his love for David Cook covers. :)

  158. Loved Cook’s rendition of NA. On a very superficial note, Cook is looking gooooood. Love the sunglasses! Yowza!

  159. Heh tierbee ‘“ saw that earlier. Here’s the same dude trying his hand at Permanent. Was it David Cook week on Estonian Idol?:

    Haha, either that or he loves him some David Cook! Well, Ott, me too. Me too. And he won Estonian Idol? Cool!

    I’m trying to think positive -ish.becuz of 24 in.snow chritmas break started early!:

    LOL, I just got an email that school’s out for the week – now that probably makes you happy and makes my kids happy but that means I have three days fewer to get anything done around here. Ha!!

  160. On a very superficial note, Cook is looking gooooood. Love the sunglasses!

    (Confesses in small voice… I kept looking at his lips… I couldn’t help it, he’s purty!)

  161. Good job, DC! I love the way he bared his teeth on RED GLARE! A little rock amid the respect, lol.

    Aww, that Estonian winner. He sings with a lot of feeling.

  162. Loved Cook’s rendition of NA. On a very superficial note, Cook is looking gooooood. Love the sunglasses! Yowza!

    It’s okay I’m superficial to. I neeeeed thozzzz sunglazzes. They are hot.

  163. My aunt told me I should check out this website which is affiliated with Sylvia Browne. This pychic has something to say right up front about Adam, so you don’t have to listen to all of her 2010 predictions. I could have made THIS prediction!

    ETA: evidently I don’t have the “add a link” thing down. Here is the website if the link doesn’t show up: http://www.spiritnow.com/static_w/webcast_concetta_dec09

  164. tierbee, don’t feel guilty, you’re just an appreciator of fine things! :)

  165. I just really wish that 19/Jive had signed Allison and then just sat on her for a bit. I know the adage about striking while the iron is hot but I never could formulate out an audience for Allison and I really don’t think she had an idol fanbase. She seemed to move along more because of her “attachment” to some other idols and, if I remember correctly, it was like the fans were voting for a block of contestants, not just one.

    It took Pink about 2 years to develop her first album and I believe she was doing some small venues just to keep her skill set going at this time and singing back-up. Jive could have done the same with Allison. Let her get away from the bubble, play some clubs, build a small fan base that would follow her around, let her mature and develop a performance style to match her voice. And then release her as a “new Artist with a unique voice and style”.

    But instead they sent her out into no-mans land and she really is failing. Her sales have been miserable, her single hasn’t gotten any spin, and nobody knows how to market her. A great voice and unlimited talent can only get you so far….if you can’t find some kind of niche and some kind of audience…it’s a tough, tough, gig.

  166. Of the two covers of DC songs that the Estonian idol winner did, I think Permanent was the best imo.

    I gotta admit I’m thrilled that DC got to perform the SSB on his birthday. Made me proud. :)

  167. ellessay…thanks for the link. I think it is really strange (in a good way) that she mentions Adam first. Wonder where that came from? Didn’t listen to the whole thing, but wouldn’t you think she would talk about Obama or our economy or the two wars or something else at the beginning of a bunch of predictions?

    And yes, you could have said the same thing!!!!

  168. My aunt told me I should check out this website which is affiliated with Sylvia Browne. This pychic has something to say right up front about Adam, so you don’t have to listen to all of her 2010 predictions. I could have made THIS prediction!

    ROFL!!! Heh, that’s what you call OTT… or something…

  169. I was working today and checked in on stuff on my computer when I got home. So I’ve checked this thread and I don’t think these twitters from David Cook have been posted; it they have, sorry:

    @thedavidcook:
    There was something I was supposed to do today… What was it… Oh yeah! Happy Bday @AnoopDoggDesai!

    Oh and if anyone wanted to get me anything for mine, go here and donate. http://www.braintumorcommunity.org

  170. I never imagined others covering Permanent.

    It does feel strange since it’s such a personal song, but otoh if you look at youtube there are a ton of fan videos that use the song for the vidder’s relationship vid of choice. A lot of people seem to have no trouble uncoupling the lyrics from their original source and interpreting “Permanent” as if it were a love song.

    Which is fine by me I guess — that’s the nature of transformative art — but I can see where it would be jarring if only because the original lyrics feel so specific.

    (CBTM got the same treatment, but then, generic love song is generic — enough so that putting any random clips to it is hardly worth a blink. I haven’t looked, but have Kris’s and Adam’s songs been used for fan vids yet? I’m sure they have, though I haven’t looked, and just wondered which songs were being picked.)

    Speaking of vids, was this ever posted here? A presumably self-written little song by Mark Salling (Puck on Glee) in tribute to the cast and crew of the show. V cute.

    Finally, I hope DCook is having an excellent birthday with family and friends — From Neal’s tweet this morning: Why am I up AND at a chiefs game? Cuz I like to party.

    Ruh-roh. *g*

    Oops, forgot to add that was a terrific performance of the SSB and I’m so happy for him that he didn’t sound a bit nervous. I’m glad he went back on his vow never to do it again, because he sounds beautiful on the song. : )

  171. My aunt told me I should check out this website which is affiliated with Sylvia Browne. This pychic has something to say right up front about Adam, so you don’t have to listen to all of her 2010 predictions. I could have made THIS prediction!

    Can’t help but stop what I’m doing right now. I knew it! I’ve got psychic abilities too. I predicted the same thing!

    LOL… thanks for the Sunday laugh.

  172. Hope we get some tweets from behind the pot plants!

    Hmm, I think they learned their lesson from last time (though that was hilariously fun for us!).

  173. And as I said yesterday when hearing about this, why does he think that Grandmothers are going to hear the song? It’s not like they’re going to be forced to hear it in their home when boiling those veggies into mush for xmas dinner.

    Apparently it’s a big deal in the UK for the whole family to watch (or listen to?) the show on Christmas and that is when Grandma will hear the #1 song…

    Or so I hear.

  174. Ah yes, the potted plants, every time I see them in the FYE video I have to smirk a little bit.

  175. I know the adage about striking while the iron is hot but I never could formulate out an audience for Allison and I really don’t think she had an idol fanbase. She seemed to move along more because of her ‘attachment’  to some other idols and, if I remember correctly, it was like the fans were voting for a block of contestants, not just one.

    I disagree. Allison did have an AI audience, enough to keep her in the top 10 for several weeks. I dislike continuous efforts to associate her success on the show with Adam. They didn’t even sing a duet until the end. Many of us were fans of hers all along, and it had nothing to do with Adam (i.e. “some other idols”). I don’t know what is meant by “fans were voting for a block of contestants.” People voted for who they wanted to vote for. A lot of people obviously voted for Allison.

    People in the media and music critics raved about Allison throughout the run of the show. Her talent was exciting to many people. Again, it had nothing to do with Adam or “other idols” (which I believe is a euphemism for Adam, since no other Idols were claimed to be responsible for Allison’s success). I reject the idea that Adam is somehow responsible for the fact that Allison was #4 on Idol. I believe the credit for that belongs to her and to the people who voted for her.

    It’s been said over and over that Jive will probably put out a different single after the first of the year, and that there are many really great songs on her cd. It’s far too early to sound the death knoll for Allison’s cd or her career in its current incarnation, yet many seem eager to do so. Adam’s first single didn’t connect either, but he’s doing better with his second one. Just because Allison’s first single hasn’t done well doesn’t mean that Jive made a mistake or that her first cd failed. Her sales have been respectable for a 4th place finisher, and many feel that FIBOU is not the best song by far on the cd. I really think it’s too soon to write eulogies for Allison’s career or for her excellent first cd. Jive didn’t rush the cd out, it is an awesome cd, as time will probably show.

  176. Hope we get some tweets from behind the pot plants!

    Hmm, I think they learned their lesson from last time (though that was hilariously fun for us!).

    hahaha, they didn’t learn their lesson. They “just happened” to be in San Diego for one of Adam’s radio shows and Hard Rock Cafe appearance. They also just happened to book a room at the Hard Rock Cafe Hotel where Adam stayed that night.

    They also got themselves into the launch party for Adam’s album. Unfortunate for them, Adam did not show up.

  177. Many of us were fans of hers all along, and it had nothing to do with Adam (i.e. ‘some other idols’ ).

    What about Kris? I feel like there were a lot of Kradison supporters, and it’s in line with Allison always mentioning her “two big brothers” in interviews.

  178. They also got themselves into the launch party for Adam’s album. Unfortunate for them, Adam did not show up.

    Good lord. I’m glad Adam didn’t show up. These people are frightening. Their behaviour is totally pathetic. They honestly believe that Adam would be glad to see them for the millionth time?

  179. What about Kris? I feel like there were a lot of Kradison supporters, and it’s in line with Allison always mentioning her ‘two big brothers’  in interviews.

    ::shrug:: Maybe for some. For myself, my admiration for Allison as a singer and my enjoyment of her performances had everything to do with her and exactly nothing to do with anyone else on the show.

    Thanks for your comment oceana. Well said and I agree.

  180. There is a rumor floating around twitter today that Carrie just got engaged to her NHL boyfriend.

  181. dcglam,maybe it’s also because she’s from idol?(I think the general reaction to idol now is an eyeroll or ‘ ughhhhh I hate that show’)
    oh well.(I’m trying to think positive -ish.becuz of 24 in.snow chritmas break started early!:))

    The students I work with tend to get into Idol during the season when it is televised, but they quickly seem to forget everyone once the show is over in May. And yes, how cool is it that we are now on winter break?!?!?!
    Thank you, snow! :)

  182. Bah. Blog ate my comment

    I know the adage about striking while the iron is hot but I never could formulate out an audience for Allison and I really don’t think she had an idol fanbase. She seemed to move along more because of her ‘attachment’  to some other idols and, if I remember correctly, it was like the fans were voting for a block of contestants, not just one.

    Thing is, is that a shared fanbase actually would equalize sales in theory, I’d imagine, not stratify them. For example, let’s say, in theory, I was an Adam and Allison fan, as has been invoked. And I spent all my time making sure Adam would get through. When it came time to purchase, though, the only thing I’m hurting in picking up both albums is my pocket book, not my favorite’s vote totals.

    The more probable explanation, really, is that Allison only developed a rather small core fanbase (of which I am a very proud member). However, there are a number of voters who will vote based on the quality of the performances over any particular fandom week to week; people whose favorites have been eliminated, or just free-for-all voters. (I usually vote like this) Allison’s performances were really good week in and out (with a few exceptions, but that comes par for the course), enough to get enough of these votes to keep her, but not even really enough to keep her out of the B3 more often than she really deserved to be there based on performance quality.

  183. What about Kris? I feel like there were a lot of Kradison supporters, and it’s in line with Allison always mentioning her ‘two big brothers’  in interviews.

    Didn’t “kradison” come after the show ended? Allison did look up to her “big brothers” (and to Danny and others too, she was affectionate to most everyone on the show, very close to Megan, etc.). I don’t see what Kris had to do with her getting votes and making it to #4, or Adam either. I’m sure she learned from Adam, as she learned from everyone, as they all learned from each other. Adam being older and more experienced had more to share, but her “attachment to other Idols” didn’t explain why she was voted on the show week after week to stay. Fans did like her, but many don’t know she has a cd out, imo, there’s been little promotion so far and little radio play, I think that will change.

  184. girlygirl
    12/20/2009 at 8:46 pm
    There is a rumor floating around twitter today that Carrie just got engaged to her NHL boyfriend.

    awwww I hope it’s true:)

    luval
    12/20/2009 at 8:53 pm
    Wonder what the concept will be for the WWFM mv?

    me too.I have no idea.

    :) :) :)

  185. her ‘attachment to other Idols’  didn’t explain why she was voted on the show week after week to stay.

    Yeah, seriously. This. She could sing, you know. Doing that well might have had a little something to do with her lasting.

    The world does not revolve around “other idols”. It is possible for folk to breathe without the other idols making air.

  186. Looks like the bump Adam got from his SYTYCD appearance has worn off. (Not a big shock — I think it wore off for Kris a couple of days after his appearance as well) Kris, meanwhile is in danger of sliding out of the Top 200 on the albums chart.

    6:30 p.m. (Pacific time) iTunes update

    albums

    #112 & 137 FYE
    #183 Kris Allen
    #404 & #599 Just Like You

    songs

    #25 LLWD
    #60 WWFM
    #109 FYE

  187. I don’t think Allison making it to 4th place on Idol had much, if anything, to do with any other Idol. Allison can sing (or saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang)! That was clear right away. But she was in the bottom 3 in the voting a lot, which suggests she didn’t have a big base of hardcore fans – so it’s not all that surprising she hasn’t sold a ton of albums or singles right out of the box. The album has gotten a lot of really good reviews, but I’m still not sure who Jive is targeting as Allison’s potential biggest fanbase. She may not be “safe poppy” enough for the tween set, and her age may work against her in terms of attracting a lot of new older fans. I don’t know…I just keep thinking Jive really needs to get a 2nd single out quickly and then put her on tour with an established artist who has a fanbase that would appreciate Allison’s rocker chick vibe — even if they might at first be wary of a 17-year old rocker.

  188. Looks like the bump Adam got from his SYTYCD appearance has worn off. I think it wore off for Kris a couple of days after his appearance as well

    Not really, WWFM was down around #120 before SYTYCD. It is still at #60. The single is doing much better than it was before!

    Plus, Adam’s album(s) and single(s) jumped further and stayed longer than Kris’s did. It is now 4 days later, not a couple of days later.

  189. Plus, Adam’s album(s) and single(s) jumped further and stayed longer than Kris’s did. It is now 4 days later, not a couple of days later.

    From what I understand, regarding the singles, the higher it is more have to be sold show increases. I don’t recall Kris’s numbers though…

  190. I think it’s impressive that Kris’s LLWD has stayed in the 20s on itunes for a while. The song may go platinum, and if it does, then I think his album also has a chance to go platinum (like Jordin’s did). It may just take a year.

    Adam’s mv for FYE slipped down to #5 last I checked – it may be down further than that. I hope it stays though in the top 20 for the rest of December.

    The album has gotten a lot of really good reviews, but I’m still not sure who Jive is targeting as Allison’s potential biggest fanbase.

    Girlygirl, I posted this on yesterday’s headlines, it may have gotten lost. I saw an ad with Allison’s picture on the KIDZONLY music cable channel during a Jonas Brothers song. The ad said something like “new music Mondays/FIBOU” so I think they’re pushing her to Radio Disney a little. I would think she might do ok there, except maybe she’s not considered thin and cute enough (Selena, Miley, Miranda, Demi – all thin) by that audience.

  191. It’s hilarious to me that the guy who won Estonian Idol covered two David Cook songs. Very strange to see someone else singing Dave’s songs though.

    Also, kudos to DC on a great job on the NA. Based on the crowd’s screaming “Chiefs!” at the end and David not really singing the last word, I guess kids in KC are taught that the words are the “land of the free and home of the Chiefs”? Good to know.

  192. I think it’s impressive that Kris’s LLWD has stayed in the 20s on itunes for a while. The song may go platinum, and if it does, then I think his album also has a chance to go platinum (like Jordin’s did). It may just take a year.

    Jordin went platinum on the strength of her second (which went 3x platinum) and third hit singles. It takes more than one modest hit for a platinum album.

  193. Just saw this on DCO: Rick Dees’ countdown of Top 40 hits for 2009 (HAC format) shows 7 acts that had two hits each — The Fray, Jason Mraz, Kelly Clarkson, Katy Perry, Taylor Swift, 3 Doors Down and Nickelback — and only 2 acts that had three hits each — P!nk and David Cook. LO was #19, CBTM was #23 and TOML rounded out the list at #40.

    Not too shabby, Mr. Cook. Congrats on an impressive achievement!!

    http://www.rick.com/show/hot-adult-12-19-2009

  194. nyc

    My point is that Adam’s singles and album are sliding back down the charts, which suggests the bump from the SYTYCD appearance has worn off. Yes, WWFM is still at a much better position than it was prior to the SYTYCD appearance. But it is still going backwards in terms of where it was a couple of days ago (I don’t remember where it peaked after the SYTYCD appearance, but I think WWFM got into the Top 40 on the iTunes chart? Maybe someone else remembers how high it got before it started moving back). And to be honest, I noticed that all of his music was moving backwards yesterday — so it held for 2-3 days, not 4 days. But as I ALSO said, the same thing happened after Kris’ appearance — his album got a huge bump (around 100 spots), stayed there for 2-3 days, then started sliding backwards. It’s now at #183, which is actually worse than where it was prior to the SYTYCD appearance.

    I wasn’t dissing Adam — it’s just a general observation that neither Adam or Kris has been able to build on the momentum they got from the SYTYCD appearance. At least not so far as iTunes rankings go.

  195. Adam’s mv for FYE slipped down to #5 last I checked ‘“ it may be down further than that. I hope it stays though in the top 20 for the rest of December.

    I just checked one minute ago and FYE was #2 on iTunes (Bad Romance was #1)…

    My question is how do music videos count, towards singles or nada?

  196. Happycat14

    Oi — I was hoping Jive wouldn’t steer Allison in the direction of RadioDisney. Her music really isn’t a good fit for that tween pop/r&b stuff. But maybe Jive thinks this is the best way to get FIBOU some attention, since radio stations are pretty much ignoring it, and it isn’t selling. So we’ll see what happens after the New Year.

    As for Kris, LLWD will all but certainly go gold, and could go platinum. But it is a long shot that the album will go platinum. Again, it depends what happens with a 2nd single and with whether him going on tour helps increase album sales. I do think the album will go gold — at its current pace, it would likely reach 500 K in late April/early May.

  197. revcat

    Adam’s music video for FYE is showing up as #5 on my iTunes chart. Where do you see it as #2?

    1. Bad Romance
    2. You Belong with Me
    3. Hillbilly Bone
    4. Naturally
    5. FOR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT

  198. Just saw this on DCO: Rick Dees’ countdown of Top 40 hits for 2009 (HAC format) shows 7 acts that had two hits each ‘” The Fray, Jason Mraz, Kelly Clarkson, Katy Perry, Taylor Swift, 3 Doors Down and Nickelback ‘” and only 2 acts that had three hits each ‘” P!nk and David Cook. LO was #19, CBTM was #23 and TOML rounded out the list at #40.

    Not bad, Mr. Cook!

  199. Allison is difficult to market, she has the voice of an *old soul* but the demeanor of a *typical teenager*. (At least she’s typical where I live, So. Cal., and teach high school.)

    So, what to do? What type of gigs? If she’s not ready for regular concerts, there is the problem of where to have her perform. Some venues seem *too old*, some *too young*…

    But I definitely think she has a future in the music biz.

  200. Will have to keep an eye out on iTunes chart to see if Danny’s single shows up in the next few hours on the overall chart (not in Top 1000 yet – what time did it become available?). I know in general the debut singles form people on Idol show up on the ITunes chart fairly quickly after they drop, but I don’t know if that’s the case if for country music ones, since none of the more recent Top 3 contestants off Idol have gone country. Anyone else have a clue on how quickly a country debut single from an Idol might be expected to show up on iTunes chart?

    But congratulations to Danny on seeing this first single release — he must be so excited.

  201. I wasn’t dissing Adam ‘” it’s just a general observation that neither Adam or Kris has been able to build on the momentum they got from the SYTYCD appearance. At least not so far as iTunes rankings go.

    You know I noticed this too but I also noticed that neither one seems to do that great in digital downloads as they do with physical cd sales. Last week when Adam sold 46K he sold around 4k in digital downloads not a big % and I think Kris was even less (Total 23K 1K in digital downloads) Maybe they sales will be seen more in physical cd sales. WWFM went as high as #38 before descending back down the charts. I think it spent most of it time in the 48-49. Right now it is #61 which is still a hell of a lot better then it was before the SYTYCD finale which it was around #117 and that was a bump from being as high as #187

  202. Danny’s single ‘My Best Days’  is now available for sale on Itunes

    Danny’s single can also be bought now through amazon.com. Yay.

  203. From Danny

    dannygokey

    My single #MyBestDays is NOW available on iTunes & Amazon.com I feel like doing somthin crazy from all the excitement. Maybe streaking-Haha

    No Danny just No

  204. From Danny

    dannygokey

    My single #MyBestDays is NOW available on iTunes & Amazon.com I feel like doing somthin crazy from all the excitement. Maybe streaking-Haha

    No Danny just No

    Love Danny, but yeah, could do without the streaking. Lol.

  205. LOL – if Danny’s going to streak, can he at least do it in the privacy of his own home so the public won’t witness it?

  206. girlygirl
    12/21/2009 at 12:05 am
    revcat

    Adam’s music video for FYE is showing up as #5 on my iTunes chart. Where do you see it as #2?

    1. Bad Romance
    2. You Belong with Me
    3. Hillbilly Bone
    4. Naturally
    5. FOR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT

    ^^^^^^
    Just checked again and it said #2. So don’t know what the dealio is!

    http://www.apple.com/itunes/charts/music-videos/

  207. No Danny just No

    lol.excuse me while I go stab myself.

    sytycd doesn’t have great ratings so I wouldn’t expect aHUGE bump from being there

    for me fye mv is #5…

  208. ITunes sells A LOT less albums than singles so it shouldn’t be a surprise Kris and Adam sell a lot less albums digitally opposed to physical CD’s. In the grand scheme of things iTunes is a drop in the bucket regarding albums.

    As far as Jordin/Kris and going platinum. Two years ago sales were overall higher and easier to go platinum than it is today and it still took Jordin over a year to sell a million, and Jordin at this point was further ahead in sales than Kris and as stated earlier, her 2nd single went on to be massive. IMO if it wasn’t for No Air I doubt she would have ended up selling as well as she did. LLWD is doing well for Kris but so far its not moving a ton of albums.

    That Rick Dees countdown wtf tell me magic rainbow still managed to make that?! LMAO

  209. No Danny just No

    lol.excuse me while I go stab myself.

    Lol. Well, truthfully, there isn’t any AI finalist I’d really want to see streaking, no matter how much I like their music ;)

  210. steph6449
    12/21/2009 at 12:56 am

    No Danny just No

    lol.excuse me while I go stab myself.

    Lol. Well, truthfully, there isn’t any AI finalist I’d really want to see streaking, no matter how much I like their music ;)

    I agree! :-)

  211. IMO if it wasn’t for No Air I doubt she would have ended up selling as well as she did. LLWD is doing well for Kris but so far its not moving a ton of albums.

    These days I don’t think it is common for anyone new to move a ton of albums off one single. That really doesn’t happen until the second or third single anymore. And yeah, No Air was HHHUUUGGEEEE. I don’t know what would have happened for Jordin without that song.

    I bet Jive will be happy with Gold for Kris with a couple of strong singles. That would be enough to make him a decent tour draw.

  212. These days I don’t think it is common for anyone new to move a ton of albums off one single.

    True, except for Kris isn’t a new artist. He did win American Idol. Traditionally, the winner and runner-up have pretty good album sales numbers.

  213. One of the reasons I would love for Kris’s album to sell well is that he has so many good songs on there.

    I hope he is able to have more than two singles, because there are quite a few good ones to spin. CSA, AWM, BWCU, BIB, even The Truth.

    There are also some that probably wouldn’t be great singles, but are so good, I’d hate for others to miss out. IIO, Red Guitar, INTK. Any of the above that don’t get released as singles.

    Even the songs I haven’t mentioned are so sweet to listen to.

    LOL, and yeah I’m a fan. Sorry, got a little carried away and must go to bed.

  214. I wasn’t dissing Adam ‘” it’s just a general observation that neither Adam or Kris has been able to build on the momentum they got from the SYTYCD appearance. At least not so far as iTunes rankings go.

    I still say going from #121 to #38 to holding at #61, 4 days later is a heck of a jump! I would say that is some pretty nice momentum.

  215. cookcricket–I loved your last post–and I totally agree with your assessments of those songs!

  216. This appears to be the year of the reality show winners to come from the University of Central Arkansas

    UCAmagazine

    # WooHoo! UCA is home to American Idol Kris Allen, and now, Survivor Samoa winner Natalie White! about 3 hours ago from web

  217. girlygirl
    12/21/2009 at 1:52 am
    This appears to be the year of the reality show winners to come from the University of Central Arkansas

    UCAmagazine

    # WooHoo! UCA is home to American Idol Kris Allen, and now, Survivor Samoa winner Natalie White! about 3 hours ago from web

    Hmm.. I should move there. Must have good Feng Shui! :)

  218. I think Alison should get a boyfriend and trash a few hotel rooms and she’ll be good.

  219. I have to be somewhere early today, but I wanted to continue with my Season 9 Auditionee Advent Calendar (credit for the spoilers goes to VFTW):

    Number 2: Michael Castro
    Age: 22
    Hometown: Texas
    Audition City : ??

    Michael Castro Music
    MySpace
    Fan Site I found

    Younger brother of S7 4th place finisher, Jason Castro (Jason has said Michael is the better singer). Michael also auditioned in S8 and made it to the rooms episode. Can he go all the way? Will having a relative who was a popular contestant hurt or hinder? Will he automatically pick up Jason’s fan base or will he alienate people who think that he has an unfair advantage? Will his brother releasing an album about the same time help or hurt Michael? Will it help or hurt his brother being able to move albums? Will he even make it to the voting rounds?

  220. True, except for Kris isn’t a new artist. He did win American Idol. Traditionally, the winner and runner-up have pretty good album sales numbers.

    Sure, at least through Christmas. But he clearly has run through his idol fanbase, so the usual rules now apply. All I’m saying is that LLWD is not likely to have more than a minimal effect on his album sales from here on out, even if it is doing well on the charts.

  221. I don’t think Allison making it to 4th place on Idol had much, if anything, to do with any other Idol. Allison can sing (or saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang)! That was clear right away. But she was in the bottom 3 in the voting a lot, which suggests she didn’t have a big base of hardcore fans ‘“ so it’s not all that surprising she hasn’t sold a ton of albums or singles right out of the box. The album has gotten a lot of really good reviews, but I’m still not sure who Jive is targeting as Allison’s potential biggest fanbase. She may not be ‘safe poppy’  enough for the tween set, and her age may work against her in terms of attracting a lot of new older fans. I don’t know’ ¦I just keep thinking Jive really needs to get a 2nd single out quickly and then put her on tour with an established artist who has a fanbase that would appreciate Allison’s rocker chick vibe ‘” even if they might at first be wary of a 17-year old rocker.

    Good post, girlygirl. I like your ideas too for what might happen next.

  222. All I’m saying is that LLWD is not likely to have more than a minimal effect on his album sales from here on out, even if it is doing well on the charts.

    I don’t know, the song being a top 40, potentially even top 20 or higher, hit, will definitely help, and a 2nd hit single to follow it up could continue to improve his album sales. Seems like his prospects are on the upswing, depending on the 2nd single.

  223. I don’t know, the song being a top 40, potentially even top 20 or higher, hit, will definitely help, and a 2nd hit single to follow it up could continue to improve his album sales. Seems like his prospects are on the upswing, depending on the 2nd single.

    It will be better than nothing, but I’m not expecting he will sail into the top 20 albums or anything like that. But the single will sell well it seems, and it will get him to his next song. I think things look good for Kris too, I was just responding to peeps who seemed to feel like this song should be making his album sell a lot more at this point. The advantage of LLWD will kick in in January, IMO… it will help keep him on the BB200 (because the little album sales it does generate will be enough at that time, probably to keep him at least on the top half), and if the next song does well album sales should really start moving at that point.

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