Idol Headlines for 12/03/10 – The Evening Edition

@DweezySignal tweets, “Looks like Lee & the band will be doing their Disney Parade taping tomorrow at about 10am.” Lee will perform “Little Drummer Boy” for the Disney Christmas Day Parade set to air on ABC Christmas Day..

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David Cook checks in. He tweets, “Hey everyone! Sorry for the twitter silence. Been crazy focused in the studio since TG ended, trying to finish this record. Getting close!”

David also tweets, “Tracking a lil Cook/Skib/Tiemann number called “goodbye to the girl”. Insane vibe creation in progress…”

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Boo. Chris Colfer has to stay behind while the rest of the Gleeksters fly to the UK to appear on the X Factor results show Sunday. He tweets, “I won’t be performing on the X-Factor with the other Gleeks! I had to stay and film scenes with the Warblers. Lot’s of cool stuff coming up!”

And, “I expect my co-stars to bring me back enough “William & Kate” merchandise to fill a small house. Please let them know”

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More Headlines after the JUMP…

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Adam Lambert on His Grammy Nomination: ‘I Earned My Success’

So how did the outspoken and always outrageous glam rocker hear the news? “I was awoken by my manager in the morning while in Paris, ” he tells The Hollywood Reporter. “Much more effective than my usual cup of coffee to wake me up. I was so excited! After our call, I saw that a bunch of friends and family had texted and written emails.”

As far as the big music business picture is concerned, Lambert acknowledges that the Grammy nod further legitimizes an A&R tool that many in the industry had ostensibly written off, but he emphasizes that the credibility is also his, not just the show’s. “I believe American Idol is a dream platform for any artist, ” he explains. “It did not however, teach me how to sing or perform. I made music for years prior to the show but knew that most major labels wouldn’t be interested in me as a mainstream pop artist unless I could develop a legitimate fan base and prove that I had talent. Idol gave me these opportunities. But I feel I earned my current success by preparing and executing a variety of strong performances every week on the show and being comfortable being different.”

Read more at The Hollywood Reporter

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@GinaOrr tweets international release dates for Crystal Bowersox’s Farmer’s Daughter, International fans of @crystalbowersox, we have the following release territories /dates with more to come; Canada 12/14, Finland 12/14 for digital 1/12 for physical, New Zealand 1/21, Japan 1/19 digital only, rest of Asia 12/14 or asap after…that is all we have right now, more to come.

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Crystal Bowersox Stays Rough-And-Tumble On ‘Farmer’s Daughter’

Crystal Bowersox is in a happy place. She just moved into a new house in Chicago with her husband and son. Taking a break from unpacking, she’s sitting on the back porch doing a phone interview with Billboard. But Bowersox, 25, is quick to become impassioned about the world outside her domestic bliss.

“If I have a name out there from this thing called ‘American Idol, ‘ I don’t understand why anyone wouldn’t use it for good, ” she says. “That’s the way the world should work.”

“You have things that give artists texture and perspective and help round them out as human beings, ” Jive senior VP of marketing Lisa Cambridge-Mitchell says. “I think that has to inform the art.”

Read more at Billboard

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All Star Christmas: Kris Allen Interview

After his sound check at Toyota presents the Oakdale Theatre for 96.5 TIC’s All Star Christmas, Kris Allen stopped by to talk to Damon Scott.

The two talked about the former Idol Kris needs to punch in the near future and just how hard he is going to rock tonight.

Listen to the interview at 96.5 CT

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Al Roker Hosts Alzheimer’s Foundation of America Telethon

American Idol alum Kris thinks that this disease is “something that is overlooked. It’s a big deal. I am happy to be a part of this and I am happy to do what I can.”

Kris says, “My cousin’s grandma had Alzheimer’s, it was hard on their family. And she was close to us, so it was hard on us as well. I think it’s something that people forget about and that Alzheimer’s is just something that you get when you’re old. It’s a disease and it needs to be cured. I can’t imagine a really close family member having it and I pray that that doesn’t happen.”

Kris and his bandmate Cale Mills will perform an acoustic version of Kris’ hit song, “Live Like We’re Dying” for the show. “And we’re going to do ‘Before We Come Undone’ which is going to be online, ” Kris reveals. “We do a nice acoustic version of it. We’re also going to give the fans an acoustic version of the song soon. Maybe put it up on the website or on iTunes for free. They’ll love that.”

Read more at OK

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New Vlog from Danny Gokey

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Taylor Hicks on ” Celebrity Ghost Stories” – AIRS THIS SATURDAY DECEMBER 4TH

Watch how an encounter with a ghost helped Taylor win “American Idol”…episode airs this Saturday @ 9pm on BIO.

Via michaelphillips434

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Photo: Melinda Bell

David Archuleta rehearses for tomorrow’s Dallas Christmas parade with the kids of the Children’s Medical Center of Dallas.  The parade begins at 10 am.  Tonight he performs at the Majestic Theater in Dallas to benefit the hospital.

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Photo Update: Ryan Seacrest and Mariah Carey at day two of the Christmas day parade TV tapings

Check out photos of Ryan Seacrest and more HERE.

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“Glee Live! In Concert!” Adds Two More Dates at London’s O2 Arena

Due to overwhelming popular demand, Twentieth Century Fox Television and “Glee” co-creator Ryan Murphy have announced two more concert dates for “Glee Live! In Concert!, ” bringing the total number of shows in the European engagement to seven.

“The response from the fans overseas has been incredible, with tickets to the shows selling out in minutes, ” commented Murphy. “We’re thrilled to be able to announce additional concerts at the O2 arena in London on June 28 and 29 and we promise to put on quite a show.”

After mounting a live stage concert event that played to sold out crowds and great acclaim in four American cities last year, Twentieth Century Fox Television and “Glee” co-creator Ryan Murphy recently announced that the “Glee” cast will return to concert stages this spring, this time in Europe. While no North American engagement has yet been announced, Murphy promises “some exciting news very soon.”

Read more at TVBytheNumbers

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Lea Michele Says She’ll Come Back As A Teacher If She Gets Kicked Off ‘Glee’ In 2012! Exclusive!

It sounds like graduation day might be coming early for the cast of Glee, but instead of fretting about potentially being written off the show in 2012, Lea Michele is positive she’ll stay with Glee against all odds. “Maybe I would come back as a teacher on Glee, ” Lea, 24, told HollywoodLife.com on Dec. 2 at Billboard’s Fifth Annual Women in Music Event in NYC.

Read more at Hollywood Life

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Fox 2000 Buys Pitch For ‘Glee’ Guy Cory Monteith

EXCLUSIVE: Glee star Cory Monteith is at the center of a pitch deal that just went down at Fox 2000. The untitled project, described as a “workplace” comedy. Monteith is attached to star and produce with Bruce Nash and Robert Kosberg. The idea came from Michael Herbert, an intern at Nash Entertainment. Monteith, who plays Finn Hudson on the hit series, just wrapped the Fox 2000 Tom Bezucha-directed Monte Carlo, starring alongside Leighton Meester and Selena Gomez.

Read more at Deadline

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Cardle, Byrne ‘could miss semi-final’

Mary Byrne and Matt Cardle are reportedly in danger of missing the X Factor semi-final because of vocal problems.

In previous series acts such as Diana Vickers have been given byes after falling ill during the competition, but it has never happened at such a late stage in the TV talent show.

Cardle’s illness is so bad that he was forced to miss out on a planned TalkTalk secret gig earlier this week, where the five remaining acts did a short Q&A with fans.

Byrne did perform at the London show but has apparently since lost her voice.

Read more at Digital Spy

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108 Comments

  1. My goodness Cook, how long does it take to record one album. I wonder when they are going to release a single.

  2. I HATE Little Drummer Boy. More than anything else in this world. It makes me physically nauseous.

  3. I really loved that Hollywood Reporter interview

    And I hope this too

    “I hope that at this point, after all the hard work I’ve done over the past year, the nomination will give me credibility as a true vocalist in the industry”

  4. But at least LDB is easy to sing. I don’t think you can screw that song up.

  5. smeggingnuts:
    12/03/2010 at 5:31 pm

    But at least LDB is easy to sing. I don’t think you can screw that song up.

    Well I hope not — the song has a one octave vocal range and can be sung by the average 6 year old. It is a children’s choir favorite.

  6. Zorropup

    I’m feeling a little sick today :( Snuggling with Sock Monkey makes me feel better. http://plixi.com/p/60721051

    ETA: Probably feeling depressed since daddy Kris had to leave so soon after his arrival.

  7. gangreen29:
    12/03/2010 at 5:30 pm
    I HATE Little Drummer Boy. More than anything else in this world. It makes me physically nauseous.

    I am pulling a chair right up next to you, I hate that song. I cringe every time I hear it on the radio. It’s nauseating, neverending, repetitive, irritating crap.

  8. The Radisson in Kalamazoo, Michigan where Matt Giraud learned how to play piano is installing an ice sculpture of a piano today, and Food Network is following the company that does the sculptures.

    http://bit.ly/gBOTHF

    Matt just tweeted that he is going to play the ice piano. :)

    @Immattgiraud:
    Looks like I’m heading down to the Radisson where I used to play! Food Network is there and they want me 2 play the ICE piano sculpture! Ha!
    15 minutes ago via Echofon

  9. Nice evening news update on the Idol front! Lots of interesting articles/updates/ Too bad I gotta run, but wanted to repost my flailing at the new Cook tweet (from the other headlines thread):

    thedavidcook:
    Tracking a lil Cook/Skib/Tiemann number called “goodbye to the girl”. Insane vibe creation in progress…

    OMGZZ!!11!!! LMAO at myself.

    I don’t think I’ve ever heard any Andy Skib written songs, but I love the two Cook/Tiemann numbers I know (Anodyne and Kiss on the Neck, talk about two ends of the spectrum, but equally awesome!) This is sooo exciting, that I’m not even gonna care that I was wrong earlier about assuming earlier that “in the studio” meant post-production work and not tracking. At this point, it looks like we’re not getting the record til March anyway, so by all means, track as many Cook/Tiemann, Cook/Skib/Tiemann, or Cook tunes as possible PUL-LEAZE… Okay, end/rant :).

    RE: Kris’ shirt, the final product looks sooo much better (and more wearable) without the crazy colors.

  10. What a great interview with the Hollywood Reporter. Thanks MJ for posting it.

  11. Aw, no love for the “Carol of the Drum”? Pink Martini has an awesome version of “Little Drummer Boy” on their new CD. :-)

  12. excited to see Kris confirm that he is putting out acoustic version of BWCU — wonder why they wouldn’t try to sell it, though?

    Kris and his bandmate Cale Mills will perform an acoustic version of Kris’ hit song, “Live Like We’re Dying” for the show. “And we’re going to do ‘Before We Come Undone’ which is going to be online,” Kris reveals. “We do a nice acoustic version of it. We’re also going to give the fans an acoustic version of the song soon. Maybe put it up on the website or on iTunes for free. They’ll love that.”

  13. although it look brown in the photo Kris tweeted, according to someone at tonight’s show who just bought one, that new shirt is actually charcoal gray

  14. bridgette12:
    My goodness Cook, how long does it take to record one album.

    That’s exactly what I thought when I read Cookie’s twitter. Wasn’t it at least a year ago that he first mentioned being in the studio recording for his next album? It should have a couple dozen tracks at this rate. ;)

  15. is that line up for the fox new years eve thing for this year or is that last years line up? cause that site is confusing(besides being a hot mess visually).

    it says:
    “Please stay tuned for updates to this page…

    In the meantime take a look below to see what’s happened last year so’s to give you a better idea what to expect this year. ”

    this site: http://www.newyorkled.com/moreNYseasonal_NewYears_Times-Square.htm

  16. That whole NYE page is old years old, even the Dick Clark listing is from 2008.

    I would love ask RCA why this damn album has taken so long. Its all on their end. David wanted it out months ago.

  17. thedavidcook:
    Tracking a lil Cook/Skib/Tiemann number called “goodbye to the girl”. Insane vibe creation in progress…

    OMGZZ!!11!!! LMAO at myself.

    What she said!!!1111!! :O Curious hibernation, followed by this epic tidbit, if a tidbit can in fact be epic, thrown out oh so casually? My eye is twitching. Album delay resulting in more David/band cowrites was a best case scenario, so that’s cool. Do you think the fanbase mindfuckery is all part of an evil plan, or just comes naturally? I am secretly hoping for master plan, cuz I’m kind of in love with this mental image of Machiavellian Puppetmaster Cook a la Richard Gere in Chicago.

    Wasn’t it at least a year ago that he first mentioned being in the studio recording for his next album? It should have a couple dozen tracks at this rate.

    It took MCR four years for Danger Days. And there’s at least half an album’s worth of scrapped material locked away somewhere that they said they might release one day. I am in love with the result, but let’s hope Cookie’s time table is much MUCH shorter.

    In other news, I’m gonna be brave and show some love to Little Drummer Boy, but the Bing Crosby/David Bowie version. I think it works better as a duet. Maybe Lee will have someone do the other part?

  18. RT @lizbiz8 New merch store is in the works but should be up before xmas

    so maybe Kris is getting additional new merch besides just this shirt?

  19. larc, It seems that way, but Dave didn’t start pre-production on this next album ’til June of this year. Ever since then, its been starts and stops. He was busy writing and doing demos starting in Dec/Jan though. And, since he now has a studio in his house, I’m sure he’s been working on lots of stuff there for at least a year.

    ETA: Count me as another who is jumping up and down if the album’s delay was so they could get more Cook/Tiemann collaborations on the album.

  20. I don’t think I’ve ever heard any Andy Skib written songs, but I love the two Cook/Tiemann numbers I know (Anodyne and Kiss on the Neck, talk about two ends of the spectrum, but equally awesome!) This is sooo exciting, that I’m not even gonna care that I was wrong earlier about assuming earlier that “in the studio” meant post-production work and not tracking. At this point, it looks like we’re not getting the record til March anyway, so by all means, track as many Cook/Tiemann, Cook/Skib/Tiemann, or Cook tunes as possible PUL-LEAZE… Okay, end/rant .

    Andy wrote or cowrote all the To Have Heroes songs. I believe he cowrote some of the MWK songs also with Neal.

    Wow, we’re full of news all of a sudden !!!!! I hope the new years eve thing is true.

  21. I would love ask RCA why this damn album has taken so long. Its all on their end. David wanted it out months ago.

    Well I bet that RCA will never say anything — perhaps Cook might explain when it is done, but I hope not. I think it is better to leave this stuff private.

    In any case, at least he said “Getting close.” :)

    ETA: I guess it is a baby elephant!

  22. smeggingnuts:
    But at least LDB is easy to sing. I don’t think you can screw that song up.

    Wanna bet? ;)

  23. It’s possible that it was not RCA, though. I just think the album took longer than David originally thought to do what he wanted. And he did say his producer gave him a different direction to work on. It also seems like he is very involved with the recording if he is working on the tracking himself.

    I recently read an interview from 30 Seconds to Mars, and it took them two years to write and record their album, and a lot of the time was the instrumentation. It is possible that this is what David is doing too.

  24. I’m such a terrible fan, how bad is it my first thought was “whatever” to tracking a Andy/Neal song? I want those Tedder and Claude Kelly songs DAMNIT! And if he worked with Max Martin as rumored in Sweden throw that in there too heh..can you tell I don’t care so much if this is a very rockish album?

  25. (news from twitter)

    Aww, Kris misses his puppy!

    Also, Cale said probably doing 7 songs, so I think I will put up a thread for tonight’s show. They should be on around 8 pm Eastern

  26. Always exciting to hear about what David C is working on. But I hope “getting close” means just that — that the CD will be out arly next year

  27. I’m such a terrible fan, how bad is it my first thought was “whatever” to tracking a Andy/Neal song? I want those Tedder and Claude Kelly songs DAMNIT! And if he worked with Max Martin as rumored in Sweden throw that in there too heh..can you tell I don’t care so much if this is a very rockish album?

    Lol, I’m not sure what I want from Cook either. I want him to be successfull for his and AI sake, but I’m not sure how I feel about him being digested by the stable of songwriters/producers RCA has at hand.

    Frankly I’m beginning to feel unconfortable when the sign that a label is investing in you is if they are buying you songs from the 4 or 5 same guys.

  28. “And we’re going to do ‘Before We Come Undone’ which is going to be online,” Kris reveals. “We do a nice acoustic version of it. We’re also going to give the fans an acoustic version of the song soon. Maybe put it up on the website or on iTunes for free. They’ll love that.”

    I would LOVE this, I never get tired of this song, my favorite on the album.

    I hope Cook turns up soon performing his new music. I’m getting anxious along with all the Cook fans!

  29. woozasam:
    12/03/2010 at 7:02 pm

    What’s an “A & R tool”?

    Artists and repertoire (A&R) is the division of a record label that is responsible for talent scouting and overseeing the artistic development of recording.

    So, basically they’re saying that American Idol is an A&R tool to finding new artists, but sometimes industry just writes it off.

  30. girlygirl:
    12/03/2010 at 7:06 pm

    CindyM

    I think TG = Thanksgiving

    LOL thanks. I thought it was a concert or project he had been working on. duh.

  31. birchtree:
    12/03/2010 at 6:54 pm

    Any word on what Adam Lambert is doing New Years Eve?

    Taking the night off. They are not performing — the two Jingle Balls and 2 LA Hometown/GNT concerts are it for December. They will have done 119 concerts since 6/4/10 — and they deserve a break. And Monte has barely seen his new twins who were born during the tour.

    woozasam:
    12/03/2010 at 7:02 pm

    What’s an “A & R tool”?

    A&R (Artist(s) and Repertoire) are the record label execs who select the performers and supervise the production of recordings. Their primary job is to find and develop talent. The concept of Pop Idol and American Idol was that a TV competition could be designed to identify people with raw talent. And in a few cases it did — like Carrie. Most of the Idol successes are more like Cook, Daughtry and Adam — people who were struggling “professional” musicians who used Idol to build a fanbase and get a recording contract.

    A&R are also the people who line up all the collaborators for a label’s artists and are the most important voice in the process of selecting a single. They are supposed to be expects in what will sell in the future. It is a very, very hard job.

  32. Well I hope not — the song has a one octave vocal range and can be sung by the average 6 year old.

    That’s about a half an octave more than Lee can handle.

  33. sr4mjc:
    12/03/2010 at 7:15 pm

    Well I hope not — the song has a one octave vocal range and can be sung by the average 6 year old.

    It’s about a half an octave more than Lee can handle.

    Honestly I hate that song but I used to used it with a little kids choir because it is so easy to sing. But there is not much too it so when kids sing it, it can be cute. When Adults sing it, it needs to be stylized in some way. The best ever version was the Bing Crosby-David Bowie duet — Peace on Earth/Little Drummer Boy:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vJp-lSv0S0

  34. can you tell I don’t care so much if this is a very rockish album?

    I kinda care. Spring is coming. Trainer is going to kick my ass in new and different ways. I want an album with some drive on it. Tedder has never, in the history of his songwriting output, released a song with real drive. It’s all icy drum programming and strings. Heh. (I’m still curious about the CK songs, though. That guy has a secret pop-punk heart.)

  35. Not gonna lie, I really was interested to hear what Tedder and Max Martin might come up with for Cook. I’m a little disappointed if they got tossed.

  36. Do you think the fanbase mindfuckery is all part of an evil plan, or just comes naturally?

    He is the teasingest teaser that ever teased, I swear to god. Since the very beginning, in the old WTF?Cook days on AI. It does keep things interesting though, that’s for sure. And it’s pretty hilarious how after a week of steadily escalating twitter freak out, two tweets restores happiness to the Cook fandom. Not that we’re easy or anything!

  37. My goodness Cook, how long does it take to record one album

    .

    That’s exactly what I thought when I read Cookie’s twitter. Wasn’t it at least a year ago that he first mentioned being in the studio recording for his next album? It should have a couple dozen tracks at this rate.

    I know it’s been a year since he tweeted he was in the studio. Is he doing one song a month, what’s the hold up. I wonder if RCA is going to release the album internatonally with some extra tracks. If they do, I guess I will have to buy two David Cook albums.

  38. Taking the night off. They are not performing — the two Jingle Balls and 2 LA Hometown/GNT concerts are it for December. They will have done 119 concerts since 6/4/10 — and they deserve a break. And Monte has barely seen his new twins who were born during the tour.

    I agree they need a break! Do you have confirmation on this or are you just surmising?

  39. The design on Kris’ new shirt doesn’t look as good without original colors. It’s hard to see the individual designs, so the images don’t standout.

  40. I know it’s been a year since he tweeted he was in the studio. Is he doing one song a month, what’s the hold up. I wonder if RCA is going to release the album internatonally with some extra tracks. If they do, I guess I will have to buy two David Cook albums.

    I didn’t buy Cook’s first album, but I’m hoping to like the material on his second. We know they were not going to do a release for Fall.. so I’m good with Cook taking time and producing a well thought out album. They’ll have time to fine tune it.

  41. To me, the “A&R tool” mentioned in the Hollywood Reporter article is American Idol — not some exec at Adam’s label. That is how the sentence reads to me, anyway

  42. Andy wrote or cowrote all the To Have Heroes songs. I believe he cowrote some of the MWK songs also with Neal.

    Oh, I checked out some THH stuff eons ago and didn’t like it so I’ve since completely forgotten what they sound like. /badfan. The only MWK stuff I like is Anodyne, which David cowrote with Neal and… Okay that might be it actually./badfan. I got the MWK acoustic album and never listen to it. /badfan. Haha. And Trina, I definitely am dying to hear the Tedder/Claude Kelly/possibly Max Martin collabs as well. So that makes me 3 times a bad fan maybe? Whatever though, I’m just excited about the tweet cuz I happen to love the two whole Cook/Tiemann cowrites we’ve ever heard. I still hope to hear the other collabs. Though, he’ll, at this point, I’m dying to hear anything lol. I’d also love a double or triple album, but that’s just not gonna happen haha.

  43. I also like Little Drummer Boy. The Crosby-Bowie version is my favorite too (for at least a couple more weeks…..)

  44. I know it’s been a year since he tweeted he was in the studio. Is he doing one song a month, what’s the hold up

    If you step back from the “everyone on his label and at his management hates him and wants him to suffer” camps, the two prevailing theories (which may not be mutually exclusive) are:

    1) Picking the producer took longer than anticipated, and then when Serletic was finally chosen, he had too many other obligations to work with the band straight through (he produced for Joe Cocker, Santana, and the Band Perry, and was getting MB20 and Gloriana back in studio for pre-production because they’re on his label).
    2) Sony Music’s cash flow was essentially fucked this year because of the economy and big releases that fizzled. So while RCA released LD because they had to (and CB with Jive), generally the labels only released one big rock act (KOL) and a bunch of heritage acts (Michael Jackson) or acts with built-in holiday audiences (Boyle, Evancho, Glee) that didn’t cost as much money for promo in CQ4, thus pushing everyone who needed promo money (including a quarter of RCA’s artists) into 2011.

    That Cook kept writing and apparently pushed for more band writing and peer writing with the “spare time” seems more like a bonus than a decision driver on either side. He already had about 40-50 songs when they first went into the studio in June.

  45. standtotheright:
    12/03/2010 at 8:00 pm
    If you step back from the “everyone on his label and at his management hates him and wants him to suffer” camps, the two prevailing theories (which may not be mutually exclusive) are:

    I have never been in the “everyone on his label and at his management hates him and want to suffer” camp. Considering that he had a platinum album and two great singles, I couldn’t imagine why anyone would think that RCA or 19 had it in for him. I would simply like to know what the holdup is.

  46. girlygirl:
    12/03/2010 at 7:51 pm
    To me, the “A&R tool” mentioned in the Hollywood Reporter article is American Idol — not some exec at Adam’s label. That is how the sentence reads to me, anyway

    Me too. It sort of sounded like the interviewer was giving Adam some leading questions. I would love to know the exact questions that were asked.

  47. bridgette, I didn’t say you were in that camp. Simply that it continues to be axiomatic (heh) in some parts of the fandom that his label doesn’t care and is pushing him aside (supposedly for the benefit of other artists) so you might have heard that from people if you’d asked elsewhere.

  48. 2) Sony Music’s cash flow was essentially fucked this year because of the economy and big releases that fizzled. So while RCA released LD because they had to (and CB with Jive), generally the labels only released one big rock act (KOL) and a bunch of heritage acts (Michael Jackson) or acts with built-in holiday audiences (Boyle, Evancho, Glee) that didn’t cost as much money for promo in CQ4, thus pushing everyone who needed promo money (including a quarter of RCA’s artists) into 2011.

    That sounds like a completely reasonable theory IMO. But I’m really hoping it isn’t the case (or not entirely the case) since Sony’s fiscal year end isn’t until the end of March.

  49. girlygirl:
    12/03/2010 at 7:51 pm
    To me, the “A&R tool” mentioned in the Hollywood Reporter article is American Idol — not some exec at Adam’s label. That is how the sentence reads to me, anyway

    I thought it was clear in the article that the A&R tool they were talking about was American Idol. My take was that they were saying that grammy nods legitimize American Idol as an A&R tool, something that the industry can tend to forget. I think what Adam is saying is reminding that while American Idol is an incredible platform, the performers on it aren’t “made” by the show, they work hard on their talent and performances and illustrate that on the show.

  50. Aside from Christina Aguilera were there any others big time releases that were a flop for Sony?

  51. Mike Posner has two hit singles, but I don’t think his album has reached 100k yet. I’m sure his promo has cost a decent amount. That’s probably a disappointment, but I’m not sure he’s a big time release.

  52. Isn’t it possible that RCA never had Cook slated for a Fall release, so when the Spring/Summer deadline was missed (for whatever reason, maybe due to Serletic’s schedule), he was basically “stuck” with releasing in Spring 2011? He was working pretty hard, and then clearly slowed up in late Summer (approx). I think the delay is probably a whole lot “simpler” than what fans are speculating.

    I honestly think Spring is going to work out better. Cook ran a real risk of being lost in all the Fall releases. And he, perhaps more than anyone else at RCA right now, needs a release that that puts him out there in a hugely visible way.

    I think Christina was RCA’s only real flop (although it was a big one). Posner maybe hasn’t sold a lot of albums, but I don’t see any way he would be considered a flop—2 hits and a load of buzz.

    ETA, I also think by releasing in the Spring Cook will avoid being “lumped together” with all the Reality show alums putting out Fall albums (everyone from SuBo to Lee and Crystal).

  53. I don’t think Posner’s 2nd single was a big hit — it didn’t go Top 10, did it?

  54. valentin, I don’t know that it was a flop, but I get the feeling Kaleidoscope Heart underperformed.

    Same with Bullet for My Valentine’s album.

    Versus probably underperformed given how well RaymondvsRaymond did and in light of how bonus EP/deluxe edition packaging worked for Gaga, but the singles did okay.

    TOSOD is clearly a flop. I’d say Posner’s album is too, although again the singles did well. But I don’t think there’s as much buzz for him as Chicagolaw does.

  55. Little Drummer Boy isn’t one of my favorite carols, but I think it’s a good choice for Lee. He could probably do a nice job with it. I love Josh Groban’s version and could see this working for Lee (Glad he’s not doing O Holy Night).

  56. I would much rather hear what David would write, especially with Neal and Andy. If I wanted to hear Max Martin, Claude Kelly, or Ryan Tedder’s writing, I could listen to several other singers in pop music today. I really like David’s music, as well as MWK and To Have Heroes, so I really like their writing.

    But I realize that other people like something different, and hopefully there will be something on the album for everyone that likes David.

  57. I think what Adam is saying is reminding that while American Idol is an incredible platform, the performers on it aren’t “made” by the show, they work hard on their talent and performances and illustrate that on the show.

    That’s how I took it also.

  58. Me too–and Adam, you have earned it

    Tomorrow could be the biggest day of my life (not in a bad way, just stressful)–i wish i could be more like adam and say “im not skerred” :p

  59. What she (karenc) said. I love David’s lyrical voice and have really loved the fruits of his collaborations with Neal. IMHO, we need more, more, more of that. As far as Max, Claude and Ryan go, their stuff is too formulaic fluff for my tastes. But if any of those guys work with Dave ends up being killer, then of course, bring it on.

  60. I don’t think Posner’s 2nd single was a big hit — it didn’t go Top 10, did it?

    I think it just hit 10 this week. I don’t know what his single sales are on this one. I’d say his album sales are not good.

    Kaleidoscope Heart, Sara B? I think she’s done pretty well, she opened up #1 her week. I hope her second single ‘Uncharted’ does as well as King of Anything.

  61. The latest numbers on Kaleidoscope Heart are 190K albums sold so far. It opened at #1 with 90K.

    ETA: Mike Posner released a full album – 31 Minutes to Takeoff in August 2010. I don’t think he’s reached 150K yet. He sold 29K his first week.

  62. He already had about 40-50 songs when they first went into the studio in June.

    standtotheright, I know there are twenty-five titles that David has either mentioned, or have been tracked down in BMI or ASCAP data bases….and there is tweet evidence for many more. So far, two of the named songs are DNA, (David and Neal, or David, Neal and Andy) and I have my fingers crossed for those. But there are others, so many, I can’t tell which ones to hope for – the SVZ collaboration, the ‘different’ love song, etc…it’s crazy making!

    I’ll just hope for the “spit and vinegar” David wanted to bring on this album, because I prefer rock, and I love his lyrics…but as long as he’s singing, its all good. Whatever is chosen, it’s fine with me. I’m just glad ‘I’ don’t have to chose. ;)

  63. Davids set list from Dallas tonight:

    sbl, tosod, altnoy, mkop, elevator, falling stars, the first Noel, pat-a-pan & moc. Encore: Crush
    ————

    not that its much but a tweet from someone in te philippines:

    OMG! caught NIP/TUCK preview on AXN Ch 24 last night! it was playing to @davidarchie song: GOOD PLACE!!! was SOOOO GOOD!!!

  64. I honestly think Spring is going to work out better. Cook ran a real risk of being lost in all the Fall releases. And he, perhaps more than anyone else at RCA right now, needs a release that that puts him out there in a hugely visible way.

    Another reason why spring works out better is because it coincides with the American Idol promos. If David has been mostly out of the public eye the past year, being in a commercial during the world series and other major tv events is really good promotion. And not just for David, for other winners also. I’m not sure if this was planned or if it is just the way it happened, but I do remember reading that they knew they were going to use the idol winners in promos as early as last summer.

  65. On the why Cook is taking so long to finish his album —

    The overcommitted producer theory doesn’t make sense to me. And really doesn’t fit the evidence exactly. (see below)

    The second proposed theory doesn’t make sense.

    2) Sony Music’s cash flow was essentially fucked this year because of the economy and big releases that fizzled. So while RCA released LD because they had to (and CB with Jive), generally the labels only released one big rock act (KOL) and a bunch of heritage acts (Michael Jackson) or acts with built-in holiday audiences (Boyle, Evancho, Glee) that didn’t cost as much money for promo in CQ4, thus pushing everyone who needed promo money (including a quarter of RCA’s artists) into 2011.

    This is not the case — the cash flow position is better now than it was in 2009 or 2008. For the first half of 2010 (thru 12/31/10) Sony Music Entertainment’s revenue was down -5.2% in yen entirely due to the decline in value of the US dollar and the Euro vs. yen. Operating income was up +11.5% from 14 billion yen to 15.6 billion yen.

    Currency devaluation of US $ is a major issue for US recording artists. Dollar to yen is down about 10% for the first half of 2010 vs. 2009. $1 in October 2008 is worth $0.88 now in yen. So you need to sell 12% more albums in the US just to stay even with 2008.

    2009 had the major benefit of MJ album sales. 2010 had a number of big albums like Sade, Usher, Kesha and Susan Boyle. And some albums that do not look good in US sales did far better in worldwide sales — Example: Xtina Bionic sold 250K units in the US but much more worldwide.

    There doesn’t seem to be any hesitation to invest in albums that have sales potential at Sony right now — just a lack of good product.

    My theory — and it is only a theory — Cook and RCA did not agree on overall direction for the album. Cook wanted to put out an album of music that he and his band created, RCA want some “commercial” pop music that would get airplay on Top 40 radio and drive album sales. That would explain why it took so long to agree on a producer. And why instead of an album composed of 12+ David Cook songs, he did sessions with Teddar and Max Martin, two of RCA’s “go to” producers for pop songs.

    A creative difference makes the most sense to me (and is a common occurrence) but it could be completely off base.

  66. My theory — and it is only a theory — Cook and RCA did not agree on overall direction for the album. Cook wanted to put out an album of music that he and his band created, RCA want some “commercial” pop music that would get airplay on Top 40 radio and drive album sales. That would explain why it took so long to agree on a producer. And why instead of an album composed of 12+ David Cook songs, he did sessions with Teddar and Max Martin, two of RCA’s “go to” producers for pop songs.

    Q3, you might be right on this. I can how a difference in opinion about what type of album to make could slow the process down. Even though I am a fan of both Tedder and Max Martin, I just don’t see their type of songs working for Cook. But on the other hand, David’s album is not going to get much top 40 play, if it’s too rock and roll. I am going to assume they ended up compromising somewhere in the middle.

  67. My theory — and it is only a theory — Cook and RCA did not agree on overall direction for the album. Cook wanted to put out an album of music that he and his band created, RCA want some “commercial” pop music that would get airplay on Top 40 radio and drive album sales. That would explain why it took so long to agree on a producer. And why instead of an album composed of 12+ David Cook songs, he did sessions with Teddar and Max Martin, two of RCA’s “go to” producers for pop songs.

    But the timing doesn’t work out. The Claude Kelly and Max Martin (okay, let’s just say Sweden collab) writing sessions were some of the earliest collaborations that Cook did. If he wasn’t on board with that direction, why would he fly all over the world (expenses that he will ultimately be responsible for) only to say “no thanks” to the results. Doesn’t make sense. Don’t recall when the Tedder co-write was but it didn’t seem like that was done that late in the process. I’m not saying there were no artistic differences, as there probably were (as there usually are in every project) but the overcommitted producer theory just fits the evidence better. Serletic was quite prolific this year with Santana, Cocker, Gloriana, Cook and MB20. I do think that Cook probably didn’t get his first choice of producer — thus creating a delay in the start of preproduction, so I suppose that could have been the first artistic difference that caused a delay. But once they were in the studio after July (when things slowed down) , the only additional writing done were with bandmates or Hodges who is really good friends with the Cook crew now. If there were creative differences, it seems weird (but cool) that the label would say — nah, throw out all these songs co-written with proven hitmakers and go back in and write with your band or by yourself.

    ETA: smallie, I also love the only two Cook/Tiemann songs we’ve heard (Anodyne and KOTN). LOVE! But I really do like Tiemann’s solo writing for MWK as well. I like some of THH but it doesn’t hit my musical sweet spot quite as well as the Cook and/or Tiemann written songs.

  68. Q3, I’ll leave you to fight out the income statements. I will say that athough Sade, Kesha, and Usher (SuBo’s newest arrived too late in the game to be a factor in the decision) did well, I still don’t think that it compares to the year of Michael Jackson. And Kesha aside, most of the newer acts have not taken off this year.

    But the problem with the creative difference theory is that even if one assumes that the tailend of 2009 was not real preparation for the next album (a rather heroic assumption, given how he tweeted about going to meetings with songwriters and with the label), there were still five solid months of writing and demoing songs, with a few weeks off before going into the studio.

    By that point, RCA had its pop collaborations as demos to track. (Tiemann has confirmed in fan conversations that RCA got demos of [nearly] every song under consideration.) And one can assume that the band went into the studio with a list of songs that were generally agreed-upon candidates for tracklisting.

    There was no reason to go into the studio in June, record like gangbusters through July, and just stop unless there were outside circumstances. (And if those outside circumstances were “RCA didn’t like the songs [that they’d already heard] with full studio treatments and wanted more pop,” then the sessions he had after that were not in line with that goal [Maida, Tiemann/Skib, Hodges, and combinations of those…all rock leaning and all personal friends].)

    One of those was that Serletic had to fulfill obligations to other Sony artists, including Cocker and Santana, who are those cash-delivering heritage artists. He also had obligations to the artists on his own label.

    And if it were solely creative differences that caused a push to Q1, then RCA is having creative differences with a good portion of its entire roster, as they released almost nothing in Q4 even when material was ready. I just don’t think it’s that likely.

  69. But the timing doesn’t work out. The Claude Kelly and Max Martin (okay, let’s just say Sweden collab) writing sessions were some of the earliest collaborations that Cook did. If he wasn’t on board with that direction, why would he fly all over the world (expenses that he will ultimately be responsible for) only to say “no thanks” to the results.

    Airfare and a hotel in Sweden is a minor expense of a major label album like this one.

    I understood that David had a lot of songs done for the album early in 2010 — by early, he had already worked with Chantal Kreviazuk, David Hodges and a couple of others. Plus written songs with his band.

    And in this 2/8/10 interview Max Martin, Ryan Teddar and Claude Kelly sessions were in the future.

    2/8/10 EW.com interview http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/02/08/david-cook-sophomore-album-scoop/

    Why would an album take a year to record? — it could be the album is a huge experiment and/or there is not agreement on direction for the album and/or the artist does not know what they want to do. Seems like the artistic direction for the album is most likely — doesn’t sound hugely experimental, and David does not lack focus or self-awareness.

    But it may also be that it is just taking longer to get it to where he wants it to be. And nothing more than the desire to create a great album.

  70. Q3, what takes longer to get it to where he wants it to be is not being in the studio. And that was, by all appearances, not his decision.

    They had demos, but no producer, in the spring. RCA’s standard with Cook was to have full demo treatments of every song submitted. (The last tweet about a presumed “label” collaboration was with Tedder in late May/early June.) But Serletic did not start recording with the band until late June.

    And there is documented evidence that Serletic was elsewhere for significant parts of August and September (somewhat less regularly documented evidence for intermittent studio time in October, and now evidence that he was available for some of November). That made it well-nigh impossible for the album to be released with any kind of promotional push in 2010.

    He’s not a tortured genius who can’t resolve an album concept to his and his backers’ satisfaction (pre-AI he was releasing one a year). He’s someone who was dealing with external forces that made releasing this one difficult.

  71. And in this 2/8/10 interview Max Martin, Ryan Teddar and Claude Kelly sessions were in the future.

    Well, Claude Kelly tweeted about writing song #2 with David in early Dec. 2009. And Cook had gone to Sweden by early March 2010 (may have been late Feb. 2010). Again, I don’t know about Tedder, but all of the above is quite early in the process. Cook and band didn’t go into the studio for preproduction until middle to late June 2010 as I recall, so those are still quite early in the process.

    But costs aside (which can still add up when you’re traveling around the world/country for months and you sometimes travel with others), why the heck would he waste his time traveling and writing with these guys if he wasn’t really open to going in that direction?

  72. Here’s a reverse Twitter timeline of every studio tweet between June and early September. (It is certainly possible that there were days that involved studio effort but no tweets, but the tone of Cook’s updates after a break from studio tweets generally suggests that they were dealing with significant gaps in producer availability.)

    http://davidcookofficial.com/us/blog/emblem-studio-timeline-2010

  73. And if it were solely creative differences that caused a push to Q1, then RCA is having creative differences with a good portion of its entire roster, as they released almost nothing in Q4 even when material was ready. I just don’t think it’s that likely.

    There was no reason to go into the studio in June, record like gangbusters through July, and just stop unless there were outside circumstances. (And if those outside circumstances were “RCA didn’t like the songs [that they’d already heard] with full studio treatments and wanted more pop,” then the sessions he had after that were not in line with that goal [Maida, Tiemann/Skib, Hodges, and combinations of those…all rock leaning and all personal friends].)

    Well if it was done, then they would not have continued to write and record songs. RCA would have accepted the album and that would be the end of the recording budget.

    standtotheright — thanks for link to the tweets. interesting. Maybe it was a producer issue — but a lot of studio days there.

    My theory doesn’t fit — but I can’t find any evidence that it was financial or an RCA business decision.

    Somehow it has to be creative, producer related, striving for greatness, but not RCA saying wait until next year.

    He’s not a tortured genius who can’t resolve an album concept to his and his backers’ satisfaction (pre-AI he was releasing one a year). He’s someone who was dealing with external forces that made releasing this one difficult.

    I would never use the word “tortured” to describe Cook! :) :)

    I was actually thinking about RCA wanting a commercial success so badly that they push for some generic pop from David. Give us another LO approach. I never underestimate the intelligence of the Sony financial team but creative brains at RCA/Jive do miss and they do push hard for commercial pop-rock from Idols.

  74. Sure, the album hasn’t been completed. But that doesn’t mean it was rejected as a finished product.

    As I said, they weren’t quite done in the beginning of August (rather difficult to be, with really only one month of studio time by then), and the timeline since still suggests patchy studio availability as the primary reason for failing to move much further in time for a Q4 release, rather than any dedicated rewriting scheme, at least to me. Most of his early writing partners weren’t the pop collaborators, either; they were the rock-leaning ones from his first RCA effort. And Stevie Van Zandt. And of course the band.

    To me, the primary evidence that RCA does have financial motivations is simply that they made KClarkson and ALavigne wait too. But I’m obviously more aware of the producer impact.

  75. I think Avril, David and Kelly suffer from the same problem, after excluding rock from their playlist, top 40 radio stations are not playing pop/rock anymore either. Aside from the one track by p!nk and Neon Trees, the rest is dance/pop or rnb/rap/pop.
    Even good songs by proven artists like Sara Bareilles have a hard time cracking the top 20.
    So if they want to have some kind of impact on radio, the singles must be absolutely great up tempo tracks.
    Even then, top 40 airplay has really not been a garantee of selling tons of albums either (playing so much crap by artists who can’t perform live, it’s not that surprising). Despite having a string of huge hits, neither Rihanna, Keisha nor Katy P are setting the world on fire with their number of albums sold. People who listen to that are probably the same young audience who buy tracks on itunes.

    The music market is in really bad shape, country radio is the only place left that seems to sell consistently both albums and tickets for touring. After watching the CMA’s and comparing to the AMA’s, it’s not hard to understand why. Much better written songs and more focus placed on the talents of vocalists and musicians.

  76. Q3:

    My theory — and it is only a theory — Cook and RCA did not agree on overall direction for the album. Cook wanted to put out an album of music that he and his band created, RCA want some “commercial” pop music that would get airplay on Top 40 radio and drive album sales. That would explain why it took so long to agree on a producer. And why instead of an album composed of 12+ David Cook songs, he did sessions with Teddar and Max Martin, two of RCA’s “go to” producers for pop songs.

    It could also be that there wasn’t an actual disagreement with RCA over direction, but as the recording went on, and when Matt Sertlec came on, they found a new direction for the album. David did say in an interview the producer took him in an interesting direction. It does seem to me that some of the later cowriters are more rock than the earlier ones like Claude Kelly. The ones he was working with later were Raine Maida, David Hodges, and Neal and Andy. Not all the songs that were demoed were intended to be used on the album anyway, I think he said he wanted to write 40 songs. It could also be that he got other ideas for songs while going through the recording of the other songs.

    I recently read an interview with 30 Seconds to mars, and they said their album took two years to write and record, and it was because they wanted to create a new sound, especially with the instrumentation. It could be something like this is going on with David. He’s in the studio, but it doesn’t sound like the rest of the band is, so it could be that he is working on the mixing of the album. I think he is involved in a lot more of the recording and post production than most are. And this could take a long time.

  77. Here’s a reverse Twitter timeline of every studio tweet between June and early September.

    standtotheright, That’s cool. Bringing that link has poked me to get back to work – update that timeline with today’s tweets…and try to make heads or tails of the confusion after September 10th and the Children’s Choir tweet, and get that on the timeline too. I have all the tweets, but it’s hard to know which are relevant to DCTR2. I’ll get right on it – Thanks for the nudge! ;)

  78. The thing about Katy Perry, Rhianna etc is that they release great radio songs. I wouldn’t buy their albums and rarely like the songs when I initially hear them. But once you’ve heard them repeated on the radio a few times they grow on you and you enjoy them. I can see why they play well in clubs too.

    There’s nothing that stands up to scrutiny about them – no depth or lasting impact.

    But they are what pop is all about: strong beats that occupy your mind and body for the 3 minutes that they play for.

    I’m quite enjoying some of the pop stuff I hear on the radio. I just don’t want to buy it and listen to a full album of the stuff: that would just get tedious.

    There’s room for both types of music in the world: that which you listen to and enjoy in passing and that which you get into more deeply. It’s just unfortunate when some critics seem to try to insist that success can only be guaged by play on top 40, when top 40 is pretty much excluding anything that doesn’t fit under one umbrella.

  79. On another note: as for Cook and DCTR2 – I am all emptied out of angsting.

    I’ll just wait for the album and see what I think then. However, the possibility of a few songs written within the band is certainly good news.

  80. I know numbers don’t belong here, but until Saturday’s number thread is started, it’s as good a place as any. Congratulations to Lee for his first video making the VH 1 Top 20 Countdown today.

    VH1 Top 20 Countdown | 12.04.2010
    13 Lee DeWyze “Sweet Serendipity” [1|13] [DEBUT] Hot Shot Debut

    Countdown Contenders:
    22 Fantasia “I’m Doin’ Me”

  81. tigervixxxen:
    12/04/2010 at 1:49 am
    I haven’t seen it discussed here yet but Crystal’s FD has an adds date on AAA for 1.10.11. I checked HAC and CHR and nothing there. Sorry if this is old info.

    http://fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=16774

    Fabulous… Finally!!! I think this may be the first time it is posted.

  82. fadetowhite:
    12/04/2010 at 6:44 am
    The thing about Katy Perry, Rhianna etc is that they release great radio songs. I wouldn’t buy their albums and rarely like the songs when I initially hear them. But once you’ve heard them repeated on the radio a few times they grow on you and you enjoy them. I can see why they play well in clubs too.

    There’s nothing that stands up to scrutiny about them – no depth or lasting impact.

    But they are what pop is all about: strong beats that occupy your mind and body for the 3 minutes that they play for.

    I’m quite enjoying some of the pop stuff I hear on the radio. I just don’t want to buy it and listen to a full album of the stuff: that would just get tedious.

    There’s room for both types of music in the world: that which you listen to and enjoy in passing and that which you get into more deeply. It’s just unfortunate when some critics seem to try to insist that success can only be guaged by play on top 40, when top 40 is pretty much excluding anything that doesn’t fit under one umbrella.

    I completely agree with you. Our buying habits are even the same. I’ll add that its unfortunate that some critics act as though if music is in the top40 charts its unworthy of their attention and completely miss the purpose of the music.

  83. I’ll add that its unfortunate that some critics act as though if music is in the top40 charts its unworthy of their attention and completely miss the purpose of the music.

    Yeah – I’d agree with that too. They ignore the fact that some of the biggest names in the music industry started out making exactly that kind of pop music (The Beatles?). And they ignore the fact that a proportion of that music will stand the test of time.

    And it’s the same for the less populist stuff too. Some of it is great; some of it just suits its moment in time; some of it is rubbish and some of it is boosted by critics who like to celebrate the most obscure, but actually least appealing of artists, in an Emperor’s New Clothes type arrangement.

  84. The thing about Katy Perry, Rhianna etc is that they release great radio songs. I wouldn’t buy their albums and rarely like the songs when I initially hear them. But once you’ve heard them repeated on the radio a few times they grow on you and you enjoy them. I can see why they play well in clubs too.

    This is interesting. I heard some DJ’s on a syndicated radio show the other morning discussing the Grammy noms. They said that Album of the Year isn’t going to be a huge category in years to come because artists are releasing singles to radio and not even worrying about albums. They sited Lil Wayne as someone who has several singles but no album, and said that Kanye had almost all the songs on his album released to radio as singles before the album even came out. (For all you factfinders, I didn’t check if this is factual, just repeating what they said.) It’s the age of digital music buying – the labels are probably learning they have to adjust to accommodate if they’re going to be successful.

  85. They said that Album of the Year isn’t going to be a huge category in years to come because artists are releasing singles to radio and not even worrying about albums.

    Possibly – but I just think that this would be so sad. A great album is always going to be worth more to me, than a single enjoyable song. They are two completely different listening experiences…

    But maybe the pop industry will go one way – because that is where singles count – and other types of music will continue to make and sell albums, just in a different way and with different marketing.

    I’d certainly have to think so, because otherwise there’s only going to be one type of music out there (Top 40) and whilst I’m quite enjoying top 40 at the moment, taking it for what it is, I wouldn’t want to see it being all that is available in a major scale way and I can’t imagine that anyone else would either.

  86. But maybe the pop industry will go one way – because that is where singles count – and other types of music will continue to make and sell albums, just in a different way and with different marketing.

    I think you’re right, and I hope so, too. Unfortunately (or fortunately for others) the Grammys tend to focus more on Top 40 stuff, and the station I was listening to was definitely one of those. It was just an interesting perspective I thought I’d share. I agree with you, though. I like to buy CD’s.

  87. Neither Kelly Clarkson or Avril Lavigne were done recording their new albums in October 2010.

    Regarding Avril Lavigne, She said she was done her album but was back in the studio recording almost a year later. Late 2009.

    Avril Lavigne spent the better part of a year waiting for her record label to decide what to do with her upcoming album. So now that all the release-date drama has finally been settled, she’s not about to waste any time before promoting the first single.
    http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1652842/20101122/lavigne_avril.jhtml

    She told Maxim magazine that she didn’t wrap up the album until October 2010. No sign this was anything to do with budgets.

    Kelly Clarkson’s album was planned for a Fall 2010 release and didn’t make it either. It was slated for November 2010 release.

    October 5, 2010 Kelly tweeted “We’ve almost completed the album. We’re gonna have way too many songs to pick from … and that part sucks.”

    Looks to me like 3 artists who were not done their albums — not an RCA issue.

  88. koshka:
    I’ll add that its unfortunate that some critics act as though if music is in the top40 charts its unworthy of their attention and completely miss the purpose of the music.

    If that happens, maybe one reason is critics realize much of that music is throwaway. Too many of the songs lack elements that give them more staying power than the original recordings. Most are recorded only once and then fade into obscurity once the originals have played out.

  89. Danny’s video blog is all kinds of cute. He sounds so excited about writing songs, and really seems to appreciate his fans. I’m really curious who his co-writes are going to be. Surely RCA is not letting him go it alone this time around. I love how much he appreciates his fans.

    Count me in as someone who thinks the delay in DCTR #2 is not just due to scheduling issues. I think there’s been some friction between David and RCA about which direction the album should be going, and he pretty much had to start from scratch. I’m also wondering how many of Cook’s fanbase will still be as interested once his second album finally drops. Long delays are never good for a fairly new artist who doesn’t already have a huge presence. The other thing that worries me is that Cook is a rocker at heart, and rock gets hardly any airplay on Top 40 anymore, and rock stations won’t play him. If the idea was to get him to record a more pop-ish album, I can’t see that really taking off with his fans since it’s not really his style. It’s a catch-22. I hope he can regain his former momentum, but I’m just not sure what is going to happen anymore.

    With the changeover to Universal, I wonder how many of the signed idols will be dropped from their labels. I think Lee might be the first. Unless another song is released asap and becomes a hit, I definitely see him parting ways with RCA shortly after the season 10 finale, if not earlier. It’s sad because I do like Lee and I love his recording voice, but at least Lee got exposure he never would have had if he never went on Idol and he’s doing a lot better than he would have as an indie artist. If he does get dropped I’m sure a smaller label will pick him up.

    I highly doubt Crystal’s album will outsell Lee’s no matter how good it is. I heard FD and HO and thought they sounded good though. But she’s getting hardly any promotion.

    The only two recent major-label idols I can see who are building any kind of momentum right now and thriving in their genres (besides established stars like Carrie, Kelly, Kellie, and Daughtry) are Adam and Danny. I’m not even sure about Kris anymore, since I doubt Jive made any money on him, in spite of LLWD being a hit. The verdict is out on David Cook. If he has a hit from his next album he could see a resurgence and I hope that happens.

    I hope Danny wins the ACA on Monday night–if he does that will really help him out and possibly take him to the next level. However, I think The Band Perry will be taking it.

    Congratulations to Adam on the Grammy nom. I hope he wins.

  90. But maybe the pop industry will go one way – because that is where singles count – and other types of music will continue to make and sell albums, just in a different way and with different marketing.

    I agree. There are many artists who sell a lot of albums who don’t get radio airplay. Jamey Johnson in country is one. And of course many rock, alt. rock acts. I think those type of listeners are more likely to want a whole album vs. pop listeners.

    Danny’s video blog is all kinds of cute. He sounds so excited about writing songs, and really seems to appreciate his fans.

    Yes, although I fear he is starting that to tide fans over with the upcoming dry spell! We have been very spoiled the past year, between radio tour, appearances and music. It could be a year even before his next album comes out; although I hope not; he is a hard worker and has a good relationship with his label so things seem to move along quickly and efficiently in general.

    Congrats to Lee & his fans on his VH1 debut!

  91. Q3:

    My theory doesn’t fit — but I can’t find any evidence that it was financial or an RCA business decision.

    As one of the people who supported the “cash flow problems” position elsewhere, I think I’m allowed to provide the link to my analysis: http://davidcookofficial.com/us/blog/6-ks-and-20-fs-dont-lie

    Basically, Q3, the issue as I see it isn’t raw revenues or operating income but the seasonality of the revenues and the seasonality of the margins for the Sony Music segment. A technical thrashing out of the details may be more appropriate for comments on the blog or for email than for here, but I’m happy to do it with you if you like.

    (And just to not confuse people — yes, I’m aware of the timing of Sony’s fiscal year but converted the data to calendar quarters because we all talk about drop dates in terms of CQ.)

  92. If that happens, maybe one reason is critics realize much of that music is throwaway. Too many of the songs lack elements that give them more staying power than the original recordings. Most are recorded only once and then fade into obscurity once the originals have played out.

    I wouldn’t go as far as to say much, maybe half of it is throw away.. but it isn’t meant to be deep. The purpose is light entertainment and shouldn’t be held to the same critical mark as introspective work. Part of the problem is perception. Unfortunately the top 10 songs dominate the airway and skews. The irony of it all for me is that people bash top 40 when songs from many genres make it on the charts.

  93. It could be a year even before his next album comes out

    Nooooooooo, lol!

    I’m guessing not later than mid-2011 based on what Danny’s said in interviews and the goals they seem to have on their minds for next year.

  94. I don’t think it will be a year before Danny’s album is out. He says he’ll be recording during December and January. (He has the cruise in February–I wonder how much recording he can get done during that). My theory is that RCA is rushing to get it out ASAP, perhaps so Danny can take advantage of another promotion toward the end of season 10, the way he got a huge boost from promoting MBD on AI9. They probably decided not to release a third single from MBD and want him to get new music out as fast as possible so he has continued radio presence without too long a gap and hopefully get a big hit from album #2.
    I think his album will probably coincide with new releases from Cook, Adam, Casey’s first album, and possibly Kris.

    I saw Lee’s video on VH1. It’s a cute video. I hope that gives him some more album sales.

  95. Thanks to Captain WTF’s self imposed don’t ask, don’t tell policy, I don’t think there’s near enough info pointing towards one specific reason for extending the timetable of his album, tbh. I have theories like everyone else based on the stuff we know already, but I can’t back them up with irrefutable evidence. I suspect unless David decides that sharing the whole story will provide an important insight into the creative process for the album, or make for some good bullshittery in the press rounds LOL, we’ll probably never know exactly what was going on. Otherwise, when he’s asked what took so long, I imagine him saying something PC and not very illuminating, like he felt like he wanted to take his time with this album after the crazy deadlines he had with DCTR.

    I think there’s been some friction between David and RCA about which direction the album should be going, and he pretty much had to start from scratch

    So you’re guessing that RCA dictated a do-over because they didn’t like the direction David was going? I guess it’s possible, but that doesn’t jive for me. The first batch of writing sessions appeared to be the label dictated ones with the usual line up of industry hitmakers. Back then, when questioned about writing alone or with his bandmates he said he really hadn’t had the time, something like the last thing you want to do after a scheduled writing session is more writing. Then they went into the studio, again presumably with RCA’s blessing. At some point studio updates stopped, and eventually David started talking about writing more with his bandmates (and close friends like Raine and Hodges). I’ve said before, I can’t imagine RCA being all “Hey, remember when we told you to write with all of these hitmakers, and then you did? Well, we changed our mind. We want you to write with your bandmates after all!” If the delay was solely a creative decision or the result of friction, it seems like it would have to be David-initiated since the later tweets talked about songwriting that was heavy on the David and light on the hitmakers. Maybe it wasn’t coming together as an album given the hodgepodge of cowriters for the early songs and he negotiated to cherry pick the best ones and then recreate an album around them.

    Personally, I kinda think RCA had a lot of irons in the fire, Cook and a bunch of other people were told Oct/November-ish release but nothing was ever set in stone, and when RCA sat down to plot out the release dates for Q4, for whatever reason (money, priority, marketing strategy), Cook’s album didn’t fit into their big picture at the time. Suddenly there was no hurry to get er done cuz there wasn’t a definite deadline. He isn’t the only RCA artist whose next album was shuffled around and delayed until Q1. And maybe he decided to capitalize on the delay by getting in the writing he didn’t have time for initially with the boys and solo etc. And maybe said writing went well, and a concept for the album started to gel a bit more because of it, so he pushed to include some of those songs on the album, thus the release date is now dependent on when he gets those tracks done.

    Lots of maybes. In any case, for selfish reasons at this point I’m happy we now have confirmation that the writing he tweeted about with Neil and Andy paid off. I’m jazzed to hear what they created.

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