Idol Headlines for 11/06/09

Mary Murphy, Nigel Lythgoe of So You Think You Can Dance Join Dancing With the Stars Celebrities at Hollywood Dancesport Championships, November 7

International dance competitors descend on the Warner Center Marriott in Woodland Hills November 7 to compete for the ultimate Ballroom Dance prize. So You Think You Can Dance judge Mary Murphy will present Nigel Lythgoe with the Lifetime Achievement Award.

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Who: Mary Murphy (event organizer) So You Think You Can Dance, Nigel Lythgoe So You Think You Can Dance,
Dancing with the Stars dancers Karina Smirnoff, Maksim Chmerkovskiy, Louis Van Amstel, Jonathan Roberts, Dmitry Chaplin and his student, singer, Mya. Reichen Lehmkuhl The Amazing Race

Reuters.com

CKX, Inc. Reports Third Quarter 2009 Results

NEW YORK, Nov. 6 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ — CKX, Inc. (Nasdaq: CKXE) today reported financial results for its third quarter and nine months ended September 30, 2009.

For the three months ended September 30, 2009, revenue declined to $87.4 million from $97.0 million for the comparable period in 2008. Operating income before depreciation, amortization and non-cash stock compensation (“OIBDAN”) declined to $16.4 million from $28.9 million in 2008. The 2009 results include an unfavorable swing of $3.9 million in non-cash foreign exchange gains as compared to 2008. Operating income in 2009 declined to $11.0 million from $22.7 million in 2008.

CNN

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Danny Gokey’s First Single The Latest Sign That He Wants To Be Your Inspiration

danny-heart-132×120 The first single from American Idol third-place finisher Danny Gokey premiered on a Wisconsin country-music station this morning, and it’s probably not going to come as much of a surprise to people who followed him during his long American Idol journey. The track, ‘It’s Only, ‘  is an inspirational ditty that’s clearly channeling ‘Jesus, Take The Wheel, ‘  and his breathy voice is nearly drowned out by a super-mournful slide guitar at various moments.

Idolator

Kris Allen song snippets: Let’s rank ’em from best to not-so-best!

Kris-Allen-photo_lIn some ways, there’s no experience less satisfying than listening to song-snippet leaks from albums you’ve been anticipating for mini-eternities. (What? After an hour of smelling a chocolate cake baking in an oven, you’d be happy with a crumb?) But as someone who happened to be in a three-day corporate meeting last week when Italian Amazon leaked 30-second samples of the 13 songs from Kris Allen’s self-titled debut, I can attest that, in fact, I’d rather have had an all-too-brief musical tease than absolutely no music at all. And while our Music Mix blog has already run an item on the American Idol season 8 champ’s tracks, I figured that as EW’s resident Idoloonie, I had an obligation to weigh in on ’em, too. (Don’t fret, Adam Lambert fans, I’ve got his 19 snippets on my to-do list, too! But that’s a lot o’ music to digest and dish!)

EW.com

AI Now Exclusive: Matt Giraud Ready To Prove Himself

Today’s AI Now exclusive live chat with season eight “American Idol” finalist Matt Giraud was, in one word, epic. Our thanks to Matt for spending so much time talking with us and his fans. And, our thanks to all of you viewers for record breaking attendance and participation. Today’s chat was quite encompassing, covering dozens of topics and questions. But, let’s be honest, the first thing you want is the scoop on his debut album right? Well we have it!

So what kind of album will Matt be releasing? He’s one of the few artists who can’t give a one word answer to that question. Instead, Matt says, “It’s like Gavin [DeGraw], it’s like Jamie Cullum, it’s like Alicia Keys, it’s like John Mayer. I let all music affect me. I mean I’m going to be doing a Imogen Heap medley at my upcoming shows. Maybe some Disney! Haha, Go The Distance.” And, Matt warns the media and his fans alike not to put him in a box with regard to what type of artist he is, because, in his words, “I might jump out!”

More scoop you say? Okay, how about a song title? Why not three! Matt has been working on songs called “I Will Carry You, ” “Gimme A Break” and “Motel.”

AI Now.org

Carrie Underwood, Apparently Playing In Peoria

carrieTrade rag Hits is projecting a No. 1 debut for Carrie Underwood’s third album Play On, which came out yesterday. The magazine is claiming that between 300, 000 and 350, 000 copies of Play On will be moved during the record’s first week on store shelves’”a total that would make the album one of the stronger-debuting releases of 2009. Which is, I have to say, kind of strange, given something I noticed while shopping for sundries last night!

Idolator

Carrie Underwood’s got the write stuff for new album

Between the No. 1 hits and the TV appearances, the magazine covers and the red carpet fashions, music fans can be forgiven for forgetting that country music superstar Carrie Underwood was once an aspiring journalist.

But the credits for her new album, “Play On, ‘  serve as a pointed reminder that the Oklahoma native was sharpening her pen long before she won “American Idol’  in 2005.

“I got a lot of practice writing in general, especially in college. You know, in high school I wrote for the school paper; in college I wrote for the school paper and was always busy writing stories, ‘  she said in a September news conference at her Oklahoma Music Hall of Fame induction in Muskogee.

NewsOK.com

CD Review: Carrie Underwood “Play On’ 

Contemporary country star Carrie Underwood stretches her strong soprano, her songwriting skills and musical boundaries on her third album, “Play On.’ 

The Checotah native co-wrote seven of the 13 songs, and the album’s sonic diversity reveals the 2005 “American Idol’  winner’s willingness to grow and experiment.

The record opens with her latest hit, “Cowboy Casanova, ‘  a feisty country-rocker about a “snake with blue eyes’  lothario. She co-wrote the cautionary tale with country songsmith and fellow Okie Brett James and hip-hop writer/producer Mike Elizondo.

NewsOK.com

Carrie Underwood On Track To Top Billboard 200

Carrie Underwood is on track to achieve her second No. 1 album on the Billboard 200 as her just-released “Play On” should debut atop the chart next week. Music industry prognosticators suggest the 19/Arista Nashville set could sell over 300, 000 copies by week’s end on Sunday (Nov. 8) night.

Underwood’s last effort, 2007’s “Carnival Ride, ” opened in the penthouse with 527, 000 and has gone on to sell 2.98 million in the U.S. according to Nielsen SoundScan. The new album’s lead single, “Cowboy Casanova, ” moves up two slots to No. 3 on the Hot Country Songs tally and has so far peaked at No. 11 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart.

“Play On” will lead a cavalcade of new albums in the top 20 of the Billboard 200 next week, with the soundtrack to Fox TV’s “Glee” likely as the next-best debut. The Fox/Columbia album may sell over 100, 000 copies in its first week.

Billboard

KELLIE PICKLER ‘CROSSING’  INTO ALABAMA SOON

Former American Idol season five contestant and now Country Music star, Kellie Pickler will headline Country Crossing’s first concert this season to help kick off the opening of Celebrity Station Amphitheatre in Alabama.

Getting tickets is pretty easy and for charity, but you’ve only got until November 13th of this year to take advantage of the opportunity. If you make a donation of $5 minimum or bring at least five canned goods to the Wiregrass Area United Way Food Bank, you’ll receive a ticket for the concert (minimum of two tickets given per person).

Hollywood Outbreak.com

Chris Daughtry in it for the long haul

Chris Daughtry is a pretty humble guy, considering his accomplishments. The soft-spoken singer-songwriter has sold millions of albums and is the first “American Idol” alum to have two-consecutive chart-topping albums. “Leave This Town, ” Daughtry’s sophomore effort released in July, hit the top of the Billboard charts by mid-summer.

“I’ve been very fortunate, ” Daughtry said. “It’s been amazing. This isn’t something I could have expected. In some ways, what I have accomplished is mind boggling. It just keeps getting more and more incredible. But it’s not just something I’ve done. It’s something I’ve done with my band.”

APP.com

CONCERT REVIEW: Chris Daughtry’s hard-edged ballads please the crowd

Daughtry brought idolatry to a new level at the Sovereign Center on Thursday night with a close-to-capacity crowd.

With former American Idol contestant Chris Daughtry front and center, his self-named band blasted through 90 minutes of perfectly choreographed Top 40 rock filled with enough wailing guitars and staccato drums to make you believe you really were at a rock concert.

But that’s a bit of a lie.

Sure, he played a couple of full-out rockers like “What I Want” and his hit “It’s Not Over, ” suitably angst-ridden and filled with lots of plinky guitars.

But what Daughtry plays a lot of, and plays well, are hard-edged ballads

Reading Eagle.com

‘Grease’ slides into Kravis with ‘Idol’ winner Taylor Hicks

WEST PALM BEACH ‘” Jim Jacobs may be a one-hit wonder, but that single long-running show has given him a career for life and a tidy enough income that he will never have to write another word.

The show is ‘Grease, ‘  which began in a small Chicago community theater, garnering such attention that if moved to off-Broadway and then on to Broadway, where this affectionate spoof of student life at Rydell High in the late 1950s played 3, 388 performances ‘” at one time the longest-running musical in Broadway history.

TC Palm.com

A Rock Star Supernova Finally Blows Up: Dilana Returns!

Three years ago I was somewhat obsessed with Rock Star: Supernova–the Dave Navarro-hosted, American Idol-like talent search for the singer of a NEW “supergroup” formed by Motley Crue’s Tommy Lee, Guns N’ Roses’ Gilby Clarke, and Metallica’s Jason Newsted. And much of my obsession centered on Dilana, a South African, neon-dreaded, facially-pieced, sandpaper-throated rock goddess who wowed me and her judges/prospective bandmates with her first riveting, hoodie-shrouded, seemingly possessed performance of Nirvana’s “Lithium.”

Yahoo.com

Idol’s Syesha: #3 is now on top

Losing your voice on Fox’s ‘American Idol’  would be a nightmare come true for most contestants, but not for Syesha Mercado. During Hollywood Week, she communicated with a raspy whisper and handwritten notes, and then shocked the judges with a powerful rendition of ‘Chain of Fools, ‘  after which Randy declared her the ‘one to watch.’  America fell in love with the gorgeous, optimistic, and bubbly then 20-year-old, who has had her share of difficult times. Her father ‘ now recovered ‘ struggled with alcohol and drug addiction, and her house burned down when she was in high school. She made it to the top three during ‘Idol’s’  seventh season, behind David Archuleta and winner David Cook, but that was just the beginning.

Blast caught up with the young starlet to hear about her upcoming debut album and her lead role in the Broadway production of ‘Dreamgirls, ‘  which premieres on November 22 at the Apollo Theater in Harlem and will continue on a 14-city tour throughout the country.

Blast Magazine

Blake Lewis: American Idol A ‘Double Edged Sword’ (AUDIO)

American Idol runner-up Blake Lewis came on the Jack Rice Show to discuss his new album, “Heartbreak On Vinyl.” In the past, American Idol contestants have been hesitant to speak candidly about their experiences, but Blake gave Jack a very honest answer while talking about the drawbacks to being a star on American Idol. He said,

Air America

Former ‘Idol’ joins her childhood idols

When ‘American Idol’  finalist Jasmine Trias was growing up in Hawaii, her parents sometimes took her to see one of Honolulu’s most acclaimed show bands ‘” the Society of Seven.

Trias never dreamed that one day she would co-star with the troupe in Las Vegas.

Society of Seven returns to Vegas tonight, opening a run at the Gold Coast. Trias replaces Lani Misalucha, who has her own show, ‘Voices, ‘  at the Hilton.

Las Vegas Sun

American Idols in Lorain

It’s not all business at the Home, Family & Small Business Expo. The health fair, job fair, game show and hair show also offers live entertainment. Taking place from noon to 9 p.m. today and tomorrow at the Spartan Building, formerly Lorain Catholic High School, 35th Street and Tower Boulevard, it features two Northeast Ohio singers who were finalists in “American Idol.”

Oberlin native Charles Grigsby and Shaker Heights native Scott Savol will appear at the event today along with the group, the Croonerz.

Since his days on Idol, Grigsby released a self-titled album, while Savol appeared in a musical version of “The Wizard of Oz” as well as in “America’s Favorite Finalists, ” a live music show in Branson, Mo.

Morning Journal.com

X Factor’s Simon Cowell auctioned at £19, 000 an hour

Cowell donated 60 minutes of his expertise at the sale – which featured leading figures from the business, arts and entertainment world – and he was bought with a winning bid by music mogul Lucian Grainge, chairman of Universal Music.

He was worth more than his pal Sir Philip Green, the retail tycoon, who went for £18, 000 at the ”Krug Mind Share” party at auction house Christie’s in London last night.

The price for Cowell’s activity is way above the going rate for his time – he is thought to earn about £30 million each year, which works out at just over £3, 400 per hour.

Telegraph.co.uk

‘So You Think You Can Dance’ star Jeanine Mason on winning, touring, growing up

I chatted with Jeanine when the group was in Texas and got the scoop on what she learned from her experience on the show, where she’s headed next, and what she really thinks about Russian Folk dancing.

First, though, I had to come clean about my enthusiasm for her as a contestant. I proudly pointed out that I had named her my favorite and predicted her win several weeks early.

SDNN.com

2 Utahns living their dreams on ‘So You Think You Can Dance’ tour

When Brandon Bryant was named runner up during Season 5’s “So You Think You Can Dance, ” he was honored and relieved.

“I realized that I wouldn’t have the stress of being the winner, ” Bryant said during a phone call from Charlotte, N.C. “But I still get the recognition, and I still get to do things with the ‘So You Think You Can Dance’ family.”

Bryant, the Florida native who danced with Utah’s Odyssey Dance Theatre last year, placed second to Jeanine Mason at the end of the show’s fifth season. And that solidified his place on the “So You Think You Can Dance” tour, which makes a stop at the E Center today.

For Bryant, being on the tour is everything he’s always dreamed of ‘” and more.

Deseret News

There’s something about Jedward

Simon Cowell has threatened to leave the country if they win, but Cheryl Cole admitted they were her guilty pleasure.

If X Factor finalists John and Edward have a gift, it seems it is the ability to divide opinion.

If the acts on The X Factor were judged like the dancers on Strictly Come Dancing, there is little doubt that Jedward would be bottom of the leader board week after week.

However, for the last four weeks the Irish teenagers have been saved from elimination by the public vote.

BBC.co.uk

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  1. I just want to say, “Thanks,mj!” for the headlines thread every day. It is a pleasure and a must read for me. Best idol place on the web!

  2. Does the video show everyone who made it? Someone posted below you in the other thread that those on the video don’t always make the print magazine and there are always those in the magazine that aren’t in the videos. I don’t know if Adam will be in there though, he was already in their Sexiest Bachelors issue in June/July. Guess we’ll see when the issue comes out. Congrats to those that made it!

  3. But why no Ada[m]?

    They have to throw Kris a bone here and there.

  4. HDD’s updated projections

    YOUR WEAKEND TOP 15 CHART PREVIEW: Activity continues at a fever pitch at the majors (see I.B. Bad’s column and the items below for the skinny on that), but using a very fast F-stop, we were able to take a snapshot of the competition that is more or less in focus. It appears to indicate that Sony may have four of the Top 5 albums when all is said and done next Tuesday, and three of them are debuts. Here’s the picture as we head into the weekend:

    * Carrie Underwood (19/Arista Nashville) 320-340k
    Michael Jackson’s This Is It (Epic) 160-170k
    * Glee, Vol. 1 (Columbia) 115-125k

    * Andrea Bocelli (Decca) 110-120k
    * Now 32 (Sony Music) 85-90k
    Taylor Swift (Big Machine) 65-70k
    * Weezer (DGC) 60-65k
    Sting (Deutsche Grammophon) 55-60k
    Michael Buble (Reprise) 45-50k
    Creed (Wind-up) 40-45k
    Tim McGraw (Curb) 35-40k
    * Foo Fighters (RCA/RMG) 35-40k
    * Slayer (Columbia) 35-40k
    Rod Stewart (J/RMG) 35-40k
    Jay-Z (Roc Nation/Atlantic) 35-40k
    * Denotes debut
    You may now return trying to figure out the meaning of the symbols carved into Ron Artest’s dome. (11/6a)

    Also here’s a really good Tennessean article on Carrie where the topic is her personality. She also talks about ducking the cameras at the Nashville Predators/Ottawa Senators came earlier this year.

    Carrie Underwood Comes Out Of Her Shell

  5. I don’t like the video at all. :( In fact, without the popeater interview, I wouldn’t have a clue what it was about. All I see is Kris singing and playing the guitar and piano while these fragments of sheets blow around him and the clock clicks down. Um. HUH? Even the interview doesn’t really explain it, and without it, no clue.

    But he looks cute. :)

  6. Bringing this over from yesterday’s headline thread’ ¦

    Kris, David Cook and Chris Daughtry all made People Magazine’s Sexiest Man issue. Yay for them (esp. Kris!) But why no Ada?

    http://www.people.com/people/package/video/0,,20315920_20316395,00.html

    Kris is hot. Cook is hot. Daughtry is NOT. And Adam *should* be there. Oh, well. They always omit worthy contenders.

  7. Kris’s video is up at popeater!

    I am trying to figure it out’ ¦

    What is that structure he is standing in?

  8. I kind of like the video. The huge digital clock was a nice feature. I love the end with the dawn breaking and he throws the mike walking back into the junkyard. Junkyard? that part I don’t get. But the desert backdrop was nice.

    LOL Kris uses some pyro in his video.

  9. Kris is hot. Cook is hot. Daughtry is NOT. And Adam *should* be there. Oh, well. They always omit worthy contenders.

    Yep – thought the same thing. I wouldn’t put Daughtry in there, even Cook (jmo!)

    Kris is most definitely hot, and Adam – well, he is very hot, but can be oh so wrong from time to time too – lol. Still, not to make this too much of a political/social issue, but putting him in there would have just been super cool because of what a unique and fascinating spin he puts on sexuality (after all, it is the “sexiest” issue – he, imo, is one of the most interesting celebs to really push sexuality in new directions in recent years).

  10. Kris, David Cook and Chris Daughtry all made People Magazine’s Sexiest Man issue.

    Cookie is hot – Kris is cute, not hot – Chris D – not!

  11. I don’t see sexy when I look at Cook, Daughtry or Kris.

    And that’s the beauty of a video of 100 hot guys… there’s something for everyone. I don’t think a bunch of those guys are hot… but I certainly found plenty that worked for me :) .

  12. Just looked at the People montage though – yummy! Something nice for the ladies – oh, yeah!

    But looking at that spread – way too hetero, imo. Yeah, Adam should have been in there. Just thinking of the Details spread, the RS one – if that isn’t sexy I don’t know what is. I’m cutting out Daughtry to make room for Adam, sorry (because I have that power and all ;-))

  13. Not sure if this has been posted anywhere so apologies if it’s a repeat but Roger Taylor from Queen was interviewed on BBC Breakfast news here in the UK this morning and Adam’s name came up when the presenters mentioned AI and spoke about Queen being on the AI final and they asked Roger if they had found a replacement for Freddie Mercury. Roger had some very flattering things to say about Adam .. said he had a phenominal voice, one of the best he’s ever heard and that Queen would like to work with him in the future.

    Only problem was was that he called him ADAM BOLTON …..lol

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU0qbfXE0ws&feature=channel

    The Adam mention is around 7:58

  14. Yeah Cook and Kris are very hot. Especially Cook IMO. I dont know how Chris D made the list though.

  15. Congrats to the guys who made the Sexiest list! Well… I’m in the obvious minority here but Chris is hot IMO. Congrats to him making it for the 4th consecutive year! Please don’t hurt me! :p Ok, back to regular programming. ***running for cover***

  16. Does anyone know when itunes will be fixed? Com’on FYE is no where to be found on the top 200 songs, but TFM is 150 currently……..

    Does anyone know if it has a banner yet, etc

    I do hear it is being played quite a bit and the dj’s and public seem to like it, but with NO PROMO at all by RCA and Adam, WTF!!!!!

    Are they just waiting for it to organically grow until the AMA’s????

    Also, when is Kris announcing the people’s choice award nominees?

  17. Cookie – Africa Hot! Daughtry – Hottish. Kris – good singer, not hot, IMO. Vive la difference.

  18. Someone posted below you in the other thread that those on the video don’t always make the print magazine and there are always those in the magazine that aren’t in the videos.

    Exactly. I dunno, I’d be kinda shocked if Adam’s not in there.

    [Daughtry] blasted through 90 minutes of perfectly choreographed Top 40 rock filled with enough wailing guitars and staccato drums to make you believe you really were at a rock concert.

    But that’s a bit of a lie.

    But what Daughtry plays a lot of, and plays well, are hard-edged ballads

    I really agree with this…

  19. Kris, David Cook and Chris Daughtry all made People Magazine’s Sexiest Man issue. Yay for them (esp. Kris!) But why no Adam?

    Because Adam really is not attractive. He can cake on all the makeup in the world but it is still obvious he has the skin of a greasy teenager, and he is a bit chunky. Cook is not attractive either, he is very plain looking, and Daughtry is debatable. With all three guys I think people fell in love with their singing and then convinced themselves that they find that person attractive. It might have been the other way around for Kris (j/k don’t kill me kris fans lol)

  20. So are we voting now for who’s hot and who’s not? That’s very subjective, isn’t it?

    Well, here’s my take on those mentioned above with weather metaphors.

    Cook: Midwest summer w/blazing sun hot – Makes you sweat with no relief in sight.
    Kris: Springtime warm with gentle breezes – comfortable and enjoyable.
    Adam & Daughtry: Midwest January winter – leaves me cold.

    But that’s just me.

  21. Sheesh, they’re really doing Kris no favors.

    Imo, the song is still repetitive and zzzz *snores gently*. The video is bizarre, to put it kindly. Low budget and boring. And why is he performing in front of a curtain again? T’was weird on tour. Still weird.

    Lastly, where is that cute, crooked face he has when he’s singing?

  22. Adam & Daughtry: Midwest January winter ‘“ leaves me cold.

    Adam isn’t on the list – but he most definitely should be – he’s smoking lava

  23. Buderschnookie.

    I was getting ready to speak to a client in work and had to hang up from laughing so hard!!! Do say, I totally agree on all counts! ugh, Daughtry. sexy…AH….NO….

  24. Yep just because youre featured in that People video doesn’t mean you’re in the magazine. Those People issues (e.g. Sexiest, Most Beautiful, etc) are publicist driven, People editors don’t sit around handpicking men they think are hot for their issue. It’s why usually the ones that do make the mag (especially the cover) have some type of upcoming high profile project. The way 19/RCA seem to be working I wouldn’t be shocked if they arranged the cover for Adam. IIRC the one who makes the cover isn’t featured in their 100 Sexy Men video, they do a big unveiling. David was in the Sexiest Bachelor and the Sexiest Men Alive issue last year and in this video they recycle the picture they used both times. Kris should be in it this year IMO.

  25. Well, I guess we’ll all have different opinions on who is in fact the sexiest ;-)

    With all three guys I think people fell in love with their singing and then convinced themselves that they find that person attractive. It might have been the other way around for Kris (j/k don’t kill me kris fans lol)

    LOL to the above – I agree with you about that, this was definitely my experience with some of these guys. BTW – Cook, Daughtry and Adam were all favs of mine in their respective years. Cook and Daughtry DEFINITELY had to grow on me, look-wise, throughout the season (and early S7 shots of Cook, sorry, bb! still make me kind of cringe. Kris was always lovely, but just never connected on a musical level with me.

    Adam was the only one I can genuinely say was both strikingly good looking (and damn sexy at that), while also being a fav of mine on the show.

  26. Ha-
    Adam- smoking.
    Cookie- wouldn’t turn it down.
    Kris- too tiny.
    Daughtry- vomit inducing.

    What she said… I hope Chris don’t lurk here too ;0

  27. I’m really surprised how good Gokey sounds. I mean… I detest country and so find the song awful, but his in-studio voice sounds really smooth and husky at the same time. I’m no fan of his (obviously)… but he might do much better than I anticipated. Good for him :-)

  28. It’s why usually the ones that do make the mag (especially the cover) have some type of upcoming high profile project.

    My money’s on the Twilight guy. Although he’s probably not that established yet cause I noticed they usually have more established actors on their cover. Then again, wasn’t Taylor Hicks on the cover of the Sexiest Bachelors in 2006 lol.

  29. If Adam get’s the cover of People sexist – which I doubt, it would be of People magazine’s choosing.

  30. adam tweets:

    @ohferras The tabloids think we’re dating. Haha! where do they get this sh**t?!

  31. adamlambert

    @ohferras The tabloids think we’re dating. Haha! where do they get this sh**t?!1 minute ago from Echofon

    lol

  32. IIRC the one who makes the cover isn’t featured in their 100 Sexy Men video, they do a big unveiling. David was in the Sexiest Bachelor and the Sexiest Men Alive issue last year and in this video they recycle the picture they used both times. Kris should be in it this year IMO.

    Ahh – yes, the reveal is usually a big secret and then comes out. Hmmm – it’s definitely usually someone who is also big in the news at the moment. I would have thought along the lines of NPH (was he the person last year?) or Clooney (a little obvs though). I wouldn’t expect Adam to be it – though that would be beyond cool :-) My problem with the sexy title is that Kris, while lovely, doesn’t exude “sexy” quite as much – at least not through and through. Some people just ooze sexiness, and it is not even just the look, but even more so the attitude, etc.

  33. My money’s on the Twilight guy.

    Ahh yes – could be Pattinson, though if it’s a “secret” – he was actually featured quite prominently at the end of the People montage vid.

  34. Cook is not attractive either, he is very plain looking,

    Cook never looks the same from moment to moment. But, in my opinion, you could look like a male model and be as hot as mayonnaise on white bread. Sexy is not just looks; it’s an attitude. It’s the way you carry yourself. The way you speak. It’s humor. It’s charm. It’s intelligence. I mean, they have Jon Stewart in that video! He’s not movie star handsome but he definitely has something going for him.

    I think Cook is hot when he gives you one of those sliding sideways looks when he’s singing something sexy. When he swings that guitar around. When he does his back bend. When he’s dancing around in green man latex. When he’s trying to hold back his tears but then breaks down. And when he uses his “daddy voice,” trying to keep his fans in line. (A psychologist would probably have a field day with that last one.)

  35. I don’t think Adam is sexy at all. Nobody who talks constantly about how sexy they are, actually IS.

  36. Oh, I love you, Adam. Never change.

    Kris is too tiny? Photoshop, my friend. ;) I love Daughtry’s music, but sexy is never a word I would associate with him.

    Yep, Robert Pattison from Twilight wins.

  37. I sent Ferras a tweet yesterday and said this rumor has gone viral, maybe one of you can set the record straight so it stops….

    i felt bad, if Ferras has a BF, this kind of crap can destroy relationships….

    I can’t believe I am feeling relationship empathy for a perfect stranger-boy, I real need a life…

  38. NewAIFan_S8
    11/06/2009 at 11:27 am

    I don’t think Adam is sexy at all. Nobody who talks constantly about how sexy they are, actually IS.

    When has Adam EVER SAID HE WAS SEXY??? Quite the opposite. He still thinks he needs to lose weigh, he says that ALL the time. No, Adam stans think he’s sexy. 8)

  39. NewAIFan_S8
    11/06/2009 at 11:27 am
    I don’t think Adam is sexy at all. Nobody who talks constantly about how sexy they are, actually IS.

    He talks constantly about how sexy he is? Really? Weird because I follow him very closely and I’ve never heard that.

  40. Adam is his biggest critic – he talks sexy about his jackets but never himself.

  41. Editing is not my friend on here. I meant WEIGHT and I do think Cook is very hot, except when he is sporting the comb over. ;) Look at his wry smile. Hoo boy. Hot.

  42. NewAIFan_S8
    11/06/2009 at 11:27 am

    I don’t think Adam is sexy at all. Nobody who talks constantly about how sexy they are, actually IS.

    I never heard or read Adam said he was sexy. He wants to make music that makes the listeners feel sexy.

  43. Love that Cook is in there, there is definitely a whole lot of sexy going on with him!!

    That being said, maybe People’s going for a “sexiest evolution of Idol hair loss” and Adam just doesn’t fit in that storyline. Just joking!!!

  44. David Cook is the most attractive of the bunch IMO. It is funny when people say he is not good looking I am wondering if they are looking at the same guy. LOL http://twitpic.com/es7nl
    He is also one of the sexiest stage performers I have ever seen. When he is live on stage there is nothing like him.

  45. Oh, and just to give a rebuttal to a poster above who said:

    With all three guys I think people fell in love with their singing and then convinced themselves that they find that person attractive.

    Cook got my attention before I ever heard him sing. I saw some pictures on-line and read some articles about his background and I liked what I saw and read. I had not watched a single episode of AI 7 at that point. He got me with his smile and his big heart. Very sexy indeed. Then I tuned in (mid-April) and WOWZAH!

  46. That being said, maybe People’s going for a ‘sexiest evolution of Idol hair loss’  and Adam just doesn’t fit in that storyline. Just joking!!!

    ROFL!!

  47. scanned pic of Kris on Ellen. :D

    http://i33.tinypic.com/2cf75h0.jpg

    If only Adam were wearing it.

    The quality of the scan is not very good, but is that a joke? That looks awful. Last year the pictures were really really cool. That one? I don’t know, I can’t even describe it.

    I think Kris is pretty/cute, Cook is sexy/hot, Daughtry can be hot at times and Adam is also sexy/hot (as long as I don’t see a close up of his face).

    That being said, maybe People’s going for a ‘sexiest evolution of Idol hair loss’  and Adam just doesn’t fit in that storyline. Just joking!!!

    LOL

  48. i felt bad, if Ferras has a BF, this kind of crap can destroy relationships’ ¦.

    Not for these guys. They are very good friends and would find this hysterical!

    I never heard or read Adam said he was sexy. He wants to make music that makes the listeners feel sexy.

    Adam has said over and over, he doesn’t “get it.” So, I agree he has never said he see himself as sexy. He has said, he wants to make music that makes people feel sexy.

  49. Kris:
    http://i35.tinypic.com/2mq57cg.jpg

    Adam:
    http://i37.tinypic.com/s1tj82.jpg

    Allison:
    http://i36.tinypic.com/2egbn69.jpg

    Based on these Allison looks the best. Then I like the bigger picture of Adam.

    As for David C when I first saw him I did not find him attractive at all. Then when I tuned in to idol toward the end of the season he totally changed and that’s when I starting finding him cute. Then his personality totally reeled me in. Adam had me from the start.

  50. OMG…the Elle photo shoot! Kris in wings and platform boots actually isn’t a rumor!!!

  51. I didn’t find Cook really sexy until he cut his hair, I don’t remember what week that was. His haircut made me notice his face even more. His voice, though, I always thought was sexy!

  52. I went this morning, the old issue of Elle is still on the stands at my Borders….

  53. Adam is also sexy/hot (as long as I don’t see a close up of his face).

    Snort! I’m sorry, but this cracked me up.

    Won’t get drawn into the debate about sexy/not-sexy. Very subjective, yes?

    Was Jon Hamm in that People montage? He should be the cover photo, IMO. Hubba Hubba.

  54. Kris responded to Adam’s tweet

    @adamlambert …sheet?24 minutes ago from Tweetie
    Reply

    Adam’s response

    @KrisAllen4Real yes sheet.
    23 minutes ago from Echofon in reply to KrisAllen4Real

    Sh*t. Yeeeeeaaah it’s early poeple! Give me a break
    22 minutes ago from Echofon

  55. Was Jon Hamm in that People montage? He should be the cover photo, IMO. Hubba Hubba.

    Oh, good call – he would be a very strong contender. Didn’t he win some other mag contest too – like GQ best man or something? Jon Hamm is super hot – especially in those Mad Men suits. And he exudes sexy (especially that character) in both looks and attitude, imo.

  56. David Cook – first time I saw him was when he sang Day Dream Believer – I wanted his fugly face off my tv screen – couldn’t believe he made it into the top 12.
    Then little by little (Hello) he started gaining my respect. By the time he sang Billie Jean he was smoking hot! Ha!
    It’s all about the attitude and the talent.

  57. That’s the fake Kris twitter account. Suebrody get on that and let Adam know!

  58. Carrie Underwood Comes Out Of Her Shell

    On American Idol, she learned quickly that being benign could be an asset.
    ‘Oh, I never said anything on there,’  she said. ‘Whenever judges would critique me, I’d keep my mouth shut. When I watch the show now and see someone talking back, I think, ‘There you go, you’re going home. I learned to keep the book shut when I was on Idol, because everything you do is so scrutinized. It kind of scares you into your shell.’ 

    Thanks for this, windmills. This ^^^^ is unfortunately, oh so true about AI. But I do hope future AI contestants don’t all think like Carrie, or we’ll hardly get to see any personality from the contestants at all.

    DC learned to shut up pretty quickly after talking back early on, and pretty much had to fight his way out of the smug label the rest of the season. But I dunno, I really feel like people like Adam and DC were able to handle the whole “don’t talk back” thing without coming across as totally behind a wall. Adam wasn’t my favorite on the show (I liked his performances some weeks and not others), but I loved his personality. He and DC both had that innate ability to convey charm and gracious humor in those tiny moments they had to respond. I think Kris fell more into the “benign” category. His “reaction” the winning was probably the most anti-climactic TV moment ever, LOL! Anyway, as Simon would say, this show is so often not a “talent competition” but rather a “popularity competition”, so unfortunately, these things often matter more than actual performances. As a fan of AI the TV show as much as AI the singing competition, I do wonder what kind of “personality” will win AI Season 10 :). I hear they’re gunning for a girl this time.

  59. Squirrely

    That’s not the real Kris that tweeted Adam. Kris changed his twitter to @krisallen a few days ago. Then someone else snapped up his old twitter name. I think both Adam and Kris’ brother are still confused about all this though.

  60. That’s the fake Kris twitter account. Suebrody get on that and let Adam know!

    Oh, Adam must not have remembered Kris changed his name.

  61. Kris responded to Adam’s tweet

    @adamlambert ‘ ¦sheet?24 minutes ago from Tweetie
    Reply

    Adam’s response

    @KrisAllen4Real yes sheet.
    23 minutes ago from Echofon in reply to KrisAllen4Real

    Sh*t. Yeeeeeaaah it’s early poeple! Give me a break
    22 minutes ago from Echofon

    that’s actually the fake kris. I don’t think adam has noticed that kris is now just @krisallen. no more 4 real.

  62. Kris responded to Adam’s tweet

    @adamlambert ‘ ¦sheet?24 minutes ago from Tweetie
    Reply

    Adam’s response

    @KrisAllen4Real yes sheet.
    23 minutes ago from Echofon in reply to KrisAllen4Real

    I think that KrisAllen4Real twitter is fake. Kris change his to Krisallen days ago. Adam may not know about that tho.

  63. I love, love, love Adam – I think that he is brilliant – but I do not find him sexy at all. Or even particularly attractive. Cookie has tragic, tragic hair, but his features and skin are almost perfect. Some people can’t see the face for the hair, as it were. Also, the extra weight he had when he started AI did his face no favors.

  64. OMG’ ¦the Elle photo shoot! Kris in wings and platform boots actually isn’t a rumor!!!

    I loved how people were trying to say that what they actually meant is that they were having wings…for lunch. And I was all ‘uh, that’s not what the Tweets were saying.’ So vindication! Ha!

    Oh and hahaha because Kris looks incredibly uncomfortable in those things and that picture is only interesting for the lulz.

    And how are those pictures some big make-over? Allison is in a dress, but she started as a rocker in pants, than was a rocker in a rocker dress. Adam started out in lots of black and rocker, than ended up in all black and rocker. Kris started out in a plaid shirt (of course) and blue jeans and then had some untucked white-button down, casual black pants and a vest.

    If they really wanted a make-over, they should have had really gone for the glam out or rocker with Kris. They could have put Adam in a some nice suit and done a good shot there, and Allison they could have put in a pretty, but very feminine dress. That would have been an actual make-over.

    Fail Elle. Well besides my vindication!

  65. Can’t edit. I just wanted to add that what Adam has going for him, IMO, besides his obvious talent, is superb style, lot’s of charm and fantastic HAIR.

  66. That’s the fake Kris twitter account. Suebrody get on that and let Adam know!

    lol

    I already tweeted both of them. EPIC FAIL! I told Adam to get going on that FYE video. ;)

  67. http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/newsPage.cgi

    Interesting article from HDD. They talked about the major releases this Fall and why there are some without hit radio singles. They also talked about who will reign this Holiday season.

    Interesting Idol related bits from the article:

    Nov. 17, the first of what could turn out to be three late-Q4 blockbuster release dates, features Blue Note’s Norah Jones (405k, 1.6m), Interscope’s 50 Cent (691k, 1.4m), Columbia’s John Mayer (300k, 2.4m), 19/Jive/JLG American Idol winner Kris Allen and J/RMG’s Leona Lewis (205k, 1.6m)’ ¦ The Nov. 23 intrigue involves a potential battle between Def Jam/IDJ superstar Rihanna (163k, 2.5m), whose lead single is burning up at radio, and Columbia sensation Susan Boyle (who just shattered the first-week sales record at Amazon), with Idol runner-up Adam Lambert, on 19/RCA/RMG, and Epic’s Shakira (128k, 1.7m) also in the mix. Shakira’s first single failed to call out (though the latter surpassed 1m paid downloads), but the follow-up, featuring Lil Wayne, is getting heavy spins and looks like a winner. RCA has high hopes for what it sees as the massive potential of the high-profile, flamboyant Lambert; the label will begin working a single next week.

    As to which of these albums will reign supreme during the imminent holiday season, in a just-concluded informal survey of industry observers, the names that came up most frequently were The Twilight Saga: New Moon soundtrack, Michael Jackson’s This Is It, Rihanna and 19/Arista Nashville’s Carrie Underwood (527k, 3m), with Susan Boyle as the dark horse

  68. SydDuran My stylist is working with @AdamLambert today… Maybe she needs me to stop by? ;) 4 minutes ago from UberTwitter

    Me, too!!! (raises hand wildly!!)

  69. Of course, Adam has already worn a suit (TomT, ACIGC, IICHY). He needs to go for the plaid, denim, and SNEAKERS (does he even own any? Oh, wait, he wore them for BTBW. NVM). What do to with Adam? Alli in a sophisticated business suit with sensible shoes could have worked. Kris…oh a glammed out Kris would have rocked my world. Wings? Not so much.

    I am not sure I can purchase this Elle…but I am getting used to Epic Fails! these days. Even AO is under construction. *sigh*

    And I will also see Cook as exuding a cooooool sexiness, which he would just laugh about.

  70. scanned pic of Adam, Kris and Allison on Elle.

    Yeah – not as high concept as I would have liked – a little more “paint by numbers” in terms of just shooting them the way we’d expect, I guess. Though the Kris wings pick is in there as well? Eh. Wish they had gone further with the potential angel/demon motif (weren’t there rumors of that way back, or am I completely making that up?)

  71. If they really wanted a make-over, they should have had really gone for the glam out or rocker with Kris. They could have put Adam in a some nice suit and done a good shot there, and Allison they could have put in a pretty, but very feminine dress. That would have been an actual make-over.

    Fail Elle. Well besides my vindication!

    Glad you were vindicated.

    I was expecting more glam from a fashion magazine. Kris in a white shirt, Allie in plain dress. And Adam, well at least Adam has on some Crawl thru Fire pants.

  72. the label will begin working a single next week.

    Interesting quote – so with all our doom and gloom talk about how RCA seemed to be doing little to no promo for FYE, does this mean they’ll start ramping things up next week?

  73. hopefully AO will get better after construction and really start with single promo—–

  74. Based on last year’s pictures, I was expecting more glamour from the Elle photoshoot.

  75. This from taken from the article that accompanies the Elle photo shoot

    “P.S. To test my theory about how staying true to your personal style is an important part of an image, I put Kris in an Adam outfit (wings pic). Does it work? Tweet me your thoughts (you can follow me @ mrjoezee). “

  76. Elle didn’t use much creativity or imagination with the makeovers. Adam could have done better by himself. They went for the Elvis look. Yawn.

  77. This from taken from the article that accompanies the Elle photo shoot

    ‘P.S. To test my theory about how staying true to your personal style is an important part of an image, I put Kris in an Adam outfit (wings pic). Does it work? Tweet me your thoughts (you can follow me @ mrjoezee). ‘

    He made his point and then some.

  78. If they really wanted a make-over, they should have had really gone for the glam out or rocker with Kris. They could have put Adam in a some nice suit and done a good shot there, and Allison they could have put in a pretty, but very feminine dress. That would have been an actual make-over.

    Oh, yes! Complete role reversals for everyone! Allison playing with the beauty queen image! Kris totally glammed out, and Adam in a very slick 1940’s-esque suit. Wow – we should so do our own photo shoot, guys!

    The only thing I can think as to why they WOULDN’T want to do this: all these guys are new to most of the public, and are establishing their careers post-idol. Maybe they want to create a unified image of who they are, rather than muddy the waters with some completely new style right now. IDK.

  79. Slezak:

    My mom just said: “Adam’s album cover inspired me! He looks so glamorous, there’s no reason I should leave the house w/o makeup either.”13 minutes ago from web

    Mom is here, so time 2 back away from z computer. We plan 2 dive into some **** ******* music when the Breeders’ Cup ends, tho. Slezak out.18 minutes ago from web

  80. Chris Daughtry has made that top 100 video 4 years in a row now and has only been in the actual issue once….and it was a tiny pic on a page with about 20 other tiny pics. The video doesn’t mean much. However, I personally think Chris is by far the sexiest man to come out of AI and just sexy hot in general. Cook isn’t butt ugly or anything but I don’t find him attractive much. Kris is an adorable kinda sexy. I’m actually happy to not see Adam on the list….he’s not “sexy”, talented? absolutely! Sexy? ummm…not even close. I do realize that sexiness is in the eye of the beholder…I mean the JoBros were on there lol. Chris to me is beyond sexy not just because of his looks and voice (which melt me) but because of who he is….loving husband and father who gushes over his family all the time. I really hope he’s at least featured in the issue this time!! And if they really want sexy they should feature the whole band, especially Joey Barnes the drummer….he oozes sex….

  81. THIS JUST IN:

    @EWMichaelSlezak

    My mom just said: “Adam’s album cover inspired me! He looks so glamorous, there’s no reason I should leave the house w/o makeup either.”13 minutes ago from web

    We knew he wouldn’t disappoint. LOL

  82. This from taken from the article that accompanies the Elle photo shoot

    ‘P.S. To test my theory about how staying true to your personal style is an important part of an image, I put Kris in an Adam outfit (wings pic). Does it work? Tweet me your thoughts (you can follow me @ mrjoezee). ‘

    I totally agree with his theory. Now can we have Adam in wings?

  83. Oh, yes! Complete role reversals for everyone! Allison playing with the beauty queen image! Kris totally glammed out, and Adam in a very slick 1940’s-esque suit. Wow ‘“ we should so do our own photo shoot, guys!’

    Yeah, but Adam already went that way with Feeling Good. I know: He could go all Jay Z gangsta hip hop!!! :)

  84. Yeah, but Adam already went that way with Feeling Good. I know: He could go all Jay Z gangsta hip hop!!!

    He kinda went there with the trunk-cap and yellow screen glasses….

  85. Archie wisdom

    DavidArchie “The happiest people don’t necessarily have the best of everything; they just make the best of everything they have.”

  86. Mom is here, so time 2 back away from z computer. We plan 2 dive into some **** ******* music when the Breeders’ Cup ends, tho. Slezak out.18 minutes ago from web

    I guess he didn’t want this tweet tagged and tracked by Adam fans.

  87. That’s the fake Kris twitter account. Suebrody get on that and let Adam know!

    See – my first thought was that Kris was keeping the other one too (or at least had a hold of it) for when he switched over to the new one. But I have no idea how these things work :-)

  88. it’s playing sooomewheree:

    luv2laugh77 @adamlambert “For Your Entertainment” is playing on the radio… now that’s the SHIIIIIIIIT!!! Have a great day :) 3 minutes ago from web

  89. Not sure if this has been posted anywhere so apologies if it’s a repeat but Roger Taylor from Queen was interviewed on BBC Breakfast news here in the UK this morning and Adam’s name came up when the presenters mentioned AI and spoke about Queen being on the AI final and they asked Roger if they had found a replacement for Freddie Mercury. Roger had some very flattering things to say about Adam .. said he had a phenominal voice, one of the best he’s ever heard and that Queen would like to work with him in the future.

    Only problem was was that he called him ADAM BOLTON ‘ ¦..lol

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU0qbfXE0ws&feature=channel

    The Adam mention is around 7:58

    Thanks for posting the interview.

    Who’s Adam Bolton? Well, anyway, we do know who Roger was talking about. He really emphasized Adam’s talent and vocals. For once someone didn’t mention his range, but talked about the voice itself. It sounds like both Brian and Roger want Adam to perform with them. Please, please Adam’s people, let it happen soon. It would be a phenomenal concert(s), and I will fly to England to see them.

  90. I agree with the others here. Daughtry, hot? Ewww. Not hot whatsoever. Not good-looking at all.

  91. Yeah, but Adam already went that way with Feeling Good. I know: He could go all Jay Z gangsta hip hop!!!

    He kinda went there with the trunk-cap and yellow screen glasses’ ¦.
    ]
    ]Seel, for me, that was kind of fugly!

    Maybe this is what I mean:

    Oversized jeans that barely stay up
    Big-asses black Convas or Nike or whatever the kids are wearing these days
    Black shades (not yellow, fugly)
    Whatever else Jay-Z wears ;)

  92. DavidArchie ‘The happiest people don’t necessarily have the best of everything; they just make the best of everything they have.’ 

    That’s very Deep Thoughts of him. Is he writing the quotes for those motivational posters now?

  93. Cool, squirrely. Now, will they actually PLAY THE SONG ALREADY?

    Just sayin’…

  94. Don’t who the original poster was for the Roger Taylor interview but thanks. I said it before on some other thread weeks ago, but I’ll say it again:

    I want:

    Adam Lambert + David Bowie + Queen to perform “UnderPressure” Live at some huge arena thing. I don’t think it’s been performed live since Freddie died (did George Michael ever do it with them?). In addition to being such a phenomenal and emotional song, it requires a huge range, even for Queen, and you know who would kill it.

  95. Woah….Don’t quite know how I feel about this…..

    hollywoodjew Esquire claims the popularity of vampire lore is b/c girls desire gay men: http://tinyurl.com/yfuyy6z . Take Adam Lambert as case study. 5 minutes ago from web

  96. Adam Lambert + David Bowie + Queen to perform ‘UnderPressure’  Live at some huge arena thing.

    Sooo…. is the SuperBowl half-time gig already booked??

  97. Adam Lambert + David Bowie + Queen to perform ‘UnderPressure’  Live at some huge arena thing.

    That would be EPIC!

  98. Adam Lambert + David Bowie + Queen to perform ‘UnderPressure’  Live at some huge arena thing. I don’t think it’s been performed live since Freddie died (did George Michael ever do it with them?). In addition to being such a phenomenal and emotional song, it requires a huge range, even for Queen, and you know who would kill it.

    Been my dream since the middle of the season- Someday, maybe :)

  99. no wonder I couldn’t find the jacket when I searched their site- it was a one of a kind-NOW there selling it:

    rockandrepublic Get Adam Lambert’s one-of-a-kind runway jacket exclusively at Rock & Republic on Robertson. http://budurl.com/rlzd 2 minutes ago from web

    Adam seriously needs a formal endorsement deal….

  100. glambert_1481

    @suebrody1 I called 102.7 in Sandusky this morning and they played FYE!

    Well, someone has had luck!!! *sigh*


    Adam Lambert + David Bowie + Queen to perform ‘UnderPressure’  Live at some huge arena thing.

    That would be EPIC!

    I have *dreamed* of this moment!!!

  101. After listening to the Roger Taylor interview, I almost got the feeling that there was already some type of gig lined up with Adam and Queen, did you all get that? Maybe just me projecting extreme desire therefore delusional wishing.

  102. There is a note toward the end of Under Pressure that I love to hear Adam sing.

  103. Dallqa, I got the feeling also that something might eventually be in the works, too. I hope he learns Adam’s name by then. The Adam Bolton just cracked me up.

  104. “After listening to the Roger Taylor interview, I almost got the feeling that there was already some type of gig lined up with Adam and Queen, did you all get that? Maybe just me projecting extreme desire therefore delusional wishing.”

    OOOHHHH that would be heaven!!!! And please come near me with that concert!! Wishful thinking I know…While I’m dreaming let’s just throw in an appearance with Bowie:) Ok I’ll wake up now;)

  105. Kris, David Cook and Chris Daughtry all made People Magazine’s Sexiest Man issue. Yay for them (esp. Kris!)

    Well I’m happy for all three guys, even if I don’t agree with all of them. Different strokes n’all and attractiveness/sexiness are soooo subjective, I know I can only give my personal feelings on the subject and not care about anyone else’s. I mean if someone wants to find say, Wayne Newton these days to be an attractive guy? Okay den. You go on with your bad self.

    I just hope that if the three guys get in, that there are some good pictures of them. And good publicity for them all, so yay!

  106. See ‘“ my first thought was that Kris was keeping the other one too (or at least had a hold of it) for when he switched over to the new one. But I have no idea how these things work

    Mary102, Kris just changed his name on the same account. If he created a new account he would have had to start over with followers. Anyone can change the name of their current account.

    Once you change the name, your old name becomes publicly available. So Kris would have had to sign up all over again with KrisAllen4Real if he wanted to keep that name as well. I doubt that is what he did.

  107. no wonder I couldn’t find the jacket when I searched their site- it was a one of a kind-NOW there selling it:

    rockandrepublic Get Adam Lambert’s one-of-a-kind runway jacket exclusively at Rock & Republic on Robertson. http://budurl.com/rlzd 2 minutes ago from web

    Adam seriously needs a formal endorsement deal’ ¦.

    This link takes me to their privacy policy.

  108. readon, I had to read closely, it says the jacket is available at their store, not online–I did not see that at first–it does take you to the privacy policy, which I thought was bizarre and unintended by them…

  109. There is a note toward the end of Under Pressure that I love to hear Adam sing.

    Squirrely, I think I know the EXACT note you mean . . the one he swoops up to . .

  110. Me, too, readon. I love that jacket, too. So sparkly.

    I lurked for a moment on the Kris vid thread (I wanted to like the video, I just don’t), and someone snarked on TfM. Since I love that video, I decided it was safer not to say anything so I’m staying here. :)

    From AO, up again:

    New Adam Lambert Banners
    NOVEMBER 5, 2009, 6:54 pm
    Check out these fantastic new banners for Adam Lambert’s debut album “For Your Entertainment”. Let all your friends know that your a fan of Adam by grabbing these banners and posting to your favorite sites! Image URL’s are listed below so pick them up and share with the world!

    Can we get one to iTunes perhaps? ;)

  111. this is friggin’ hilarious:

    OhFerras @adamlambert I know lol! Waiting for “Ferras, with a new advance in science is pregnant with Adam Lamberts child” to hit the blogs. Baha. less than a minute ago from web

  112. OhFerras @adamlambert I know lol! Waiting for ‘Ferras, with a new advance in science is pregnant with Adam Lamberts child’  to hit the blogs. Baha. less than a minute ago from web

    Call me pathetic, but I think they’d be a cute couple!! Ferras seems like a great guy, “intelligent, creative, and compassionate.” Oh well . . .

    Anyway, I think that a Queen/Adam Lambert concert event WILL happen. There’s no way it’s not going to happen. There’s too much positive karma out there pushing things in that direction–it’s inevitable. I think that something will happen in 2010 after Adam starts touring. Adam’s first priority has always been his album, but once next year rolls around, he’ll be able to do additional events.

    Will David Bowie be in the mix too? I don’t know about that. He’s pretty off the radar screen right now. Unless I’m missing something.

  113. I think Cook is hot when he gives you one of those sliding sideways looks when he’s singing something sexy. When he swings that guitar around. When he does his back bend. When he’s dancing around in green man latex. When he’s trying to hold back his tears but then breaks down. And when he uses his ‘daddy voice,’  trying to keep his fans in line. (A psychologist would probably have a field day with that last one.)

    LOL, Sassycatz, totally agree… now I feel like I need to go watch YouTubes and get my Cookie fix. The voice is sexy, the laugh just kills me, teary heart-on-his-sleeve Cook makes me fall in love with him, being in the 3rd-ish row at a show and watching him sing Lie a cappella was fricking *hot*, and so on. It was definitely NOT that I love his singing and convinced myself that he was hot… he was the guy I didn’t notice at first because his hotness was concealed by tragic hair (hee) and then the more time he spent on my TV… the more I noticed the pretty. His lips… gah. I love his lips. But definitely his sexy onstage presence plus his charm and personality… then ridiculous skin, great smile, and so on… I like :) Oh, for Pete’s sake, I am gushing. Ick. I need to like, go to another show or something.

  114. Anyway, I think that a Queen/Adam Lambert concert event WILL happen.

    Wait, am I missing something? Is this real, speculation or wishful thinking….where did this come from?

  115. funny response to Ferras:

    @jamieminchey: @ohferras @adamlambert Got to admit that’d be one fierce ass glittery baby alien though. half a minute ago from Echofon

  116. I would go to another Cook show in a minute, but he isn’t coming to the Northeast again, he said. :(

    His acoustic Lie was breathtaking…

  117. I find this interesting from Adam Official poster, as I didn’t see Adam as a teenybopper favorite:

    I have a little tip, for those of you crazy about pictures of Adam in magazines… Go buy the teen magazines.. such as J-14, Bop, Tiger Beat, and M. He’s in ALMOST EVERY issue Smiling I but them just for him : ). In the November issue of J-14 there’s a picture of Adam in his aviators in New York City, with his Ed Hardy shirt, and a Subway bag : )

  118. Geez tierbee I was trying to study and now all I can think about is Daves lips. According to my homework pi= Dave’s lips.

  119. Billboard:

    http://www.billboard.com/#/new-releases/adam-lambert-time-for-miracles-1

    His debut album and single are just weeks away, but Adam Lambert is giving fans an early taste of his post-“American Idol” material by lending his voice to the “2012” film soundtrack. Recording rock anthems for Hollywood is a move that has worked well for Linkin Park and Aerosmith in the past, and Lambert is well-suited to this power ballad, which wavers between tender and painful. The track is also a bittersweet reminder of the talented late songwriter Natasha Shneider, who was best-known for her and co-songwriter Alain Johannes’ work with Chris Cornell and Queens of the Stone Age. Thanks to epic orchestration and an octave-straddling bridge-one that Lambert sends home with his impressive vocal theatrics-no miracles are needed here.-Michael Menachem

    RANKING: 85/100

  120. Ugh, the Elle pics were HORRIBLE on all counts. In fact the pictures and layouts looked more like something from Star or US Weekly. I thought Elle was a high fashion mag? Last year’s shoot>>>>>>this year’s.

  121. Complete role reversals for everyone!

    Then they should’ve put Adam in plaid with jeans, sneakers and no make up. Heh.

  122. 4evrmomof4
    11/06/2009 at 1:24 pm
    I find this interesting from Adam Official poster, as I didn’t see Adam as a teenybopper favorite:

    I have a little tip, for those of you crazy about pictures of Adam in magazines’ ¦ Go buy the teen magazines.. such as J-14, Bop, Tiger Beat, and M. He’s in ALMOST EVERY issue Smiling I but them just for him : ). In the November issue of J-14 there’s a picture of Adam in his aviators in New York City, with his Ed Hardy shirt, and a Subway bag : )

    Adam’s got lots of teen(tween) fans, 4evrmom4. The concerts were filled with teens(tweens) in Adam shirts and styling. My sister teaches 8th grade, and of the season 8 idols, he’s the overwhelming favorite.

  123. Geez tierbee I was trying to study and now all I can think about is Daves lips. According to my homework pi= Dave’s lips.

    Hee, sorry! I am trying to proofread a lecture about ancient Mycenaean culture… and I don’t wanna, I wanna watch YouTubes of Cookie instead. I need to dig up the Lie one from Richmond and relive that lovely day. That might make me buy tickets to Norfolk, though. I better get proofreading so I can afford it :)

  124. Kris, David Cook and Chris Daughtry all made People Magazine’s Sexiest Man issue…

    So Adam is not on the list? hmmmm That could mean one of two things…either the editor(s) of People are blind or Adam made the cover. I can’t imagine living in a world where those 3 make that list and Adam doesn’t. Just. Doesn’t. Make. Sense.

  125. I am trying to proofread a lecture about ancient Mycenaean culture’ ¦ and I don’t wanna, I wanna watch YouTubes of Cookie instead

    Well who would wanna do that? I love Lie live. Adam is okay,but he just doesn’t do it for me. He wears more makeup then any girl I know. But because so many other people like him I’m surprised he wasn’t on the list.

  126. @4evrmomof4
    Actually, the AO site seems to be FILLED with mostly 12-14 year old posters. There are older ones, but if you were to read the posts, you could tell the “age” group. It was the first site I found after AI ended and after about 2 weeks, I couldn’t take any more and luckily discovered MJ’s.

    @KLI I agree re: Queen/Lambert hook up. When this guy was talking about it you could just feel that there had been some discussion already.

  127. I think Adam is a handsome guy but Adam mostly makes me want to hang out with him and go shopping. I love, love his personality, I think he’s precious :)

  128. jericho
    11/06/2009 at 1:29 pm
    Kris, David Cook and Chris Daughtry all made People Magazine’s Sexiest Man issue’ ¦

    So Adam is not on the list? hmmmm That could mean one of two things’ ¦either the editor(s) of People are blind or Adam made the cover. I can’t imagine living in a world where those 3 make that list and Adam doesn’t. Just. Doesn’t. Make. Sense.

    He may not make the list. Adam was already one of People’s sexiest bachelors. Remember? He had the full page photo? Also, people have said the video doesn’t always mean you’re in the magazine. Chris Daughtry in video 4 times, only made magazine once. I think Kris will be in there though, he’s more current than the other two. I think Cook belongs there more though, more.

  129. Happy for Cook and Kris (and Daughtry, although I don’t find him sexy). I hope they actually make it into the print copy. Wasn’t Cook in the video last year but not in the magazine (or was that Daughtry?) The cover almost has to be Robert Pattinson, doesn’t it? New Moon has gotten a ton of publicity.

  130. @jamieminchey: @ohferras @adamlambert Got to admit that’d be one fierce ass glittery baby alien though. half a minute ago from Echofon

    maybe skincraft or rockandrepublic can open a line for baby clothes made of leathers and laces.

  131. Nice.. the Billboard.com site has Adam and Katy Perry as their Photos of the Week header. Nice big picture. The pics scroll it’s 6/6.

  132. Then they should’ve put Adam in plaid with jeans, sneakers and no make up. Heh.

    Sneakers aside, Adam’s already done that look on the show in fact. Like in his promo stuff, or meeting the mentors, usually a tshirt, no makeup, and jeans (and boots). And off the show, when not doing any event or coming from stage, it’s usually no make-up, tshirt, black pants or jeans. Though again, no sneakers, he’s fond of his boots or sometimes, flip-flops.

    Really Adam has done tons of looks on the show, even the suit, but I was thinking something really formal with the suit, three piece, but very chic. That or do something like formal wear like a tux. Now that I haven’t really seen Adam wear.

    I agree that the quality of this years photos are far inferior to last years photos.

    Another day, more fail. Today it’s still iTunes, but adding Elle.

  133. @mdmolinari Adam Lambert’s stealing all your lovers: first Katy, now Ferras, who’s next? Bella? 17 minutes ago from web

    cute

  134. I’m not a kris fan, but I think Elle putting him in an “Adam” outfit is kind of disrespectful, IMO. If they’d put Adam in plaid (which he’s worn) it might have seemed different, I guess. Maybe because Kris usually wears the same look, it made more sense to put him in something not his style. Adam’s more varied in his wardrobe. They could have put Kris in something outside of his style, without pulling the Adam references. Just kind of takes focus off of Kris yet again.

  135. Sassycatz: Cook never looks the same from moment to moment. But, in my opinion, you could look like a male model and be as hot as mayonnaise on white bread. Sexy is not just looks; it’s an attitude. It’s the way you carry yourself. The way you speak. It’s humor. It’s charm. It’s intelligence.

    I couldn’t agree more. I’ve seen guys who are physically gorgeous, but the minute they open their mouth it’s all downhill.

    Give me a guy with the qualities you mentioned, and I’m complete and utter toast.

  136. Nice.. the Billboard.com site has Adam and Katy Perry as their Photos of the Week header. Nice big picture. The pics scroll it’s 6/6.

    Well, thank God, b/c it’s all about the fail this week. Yeesh. I like that three piece suit idea. A tux!!! Nope, haven’t seen him in a tux. I guess I won’t be buying Elle now. Sadness.

    Love that tweet. At least Twitter is fun today.

  137. ‘2012’ Stars John Cusack, Amanda Peet Talk Adam Lambert’s ‘Miracles’
    ‘I love him!’ Peet says of the ‘Idol’ singer who appears on the movie’s soundtrack.

    http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1625721/20091106/lambert_adam_american_idol_.jhtml

    “I love him,” Amanda Peet told MTV News of the “American Idol” runner-up. “I love him. I love him.”

    John Cusack, meanwhile, was less honored than amusingly confused when asked about the man known as Glambert. “I have no clue,” he confessed. “No, I’ve seen ‘American Idol.’ They have the guy, Dr. Sanjay Gupta. He was on that, right? Anderson Cooper won a few times.”

  138. They could have put Kris in something outside of his style, without pulling the Adam references. Just kind of takes focus off of Kris yet again.

    The only thing they managed to pull off with that pic is making Kris Allen look like a tiny mouse being taken away by a big giant bird of prey.

  139. Oh tierbee, I could gush about how hot and sexy Cookie is too. The lips, the stage presence, the laugh, the heart, the intelligence…Sigh. Gushing – almost as much fun as flailing.

  140. For everybody who’s been mad at iTunes for days, it looks like they have finally updated the feeds, and Adam’s FYE is properly classified and displaying in the top songs list. Here are the current placements for the AI8 crew on iTunes overall:

    FYE: #48
    LLWD: #101
    FIBOU: #118
    TfM: #151
    Want: #748

  141. Then they should’ve put Adam in plaid with jeans, sneakers and no make up.

    Adam wore sneakers for BTBW. Patent leather ones, but sneakers just the same.

  142. ‘Glee’ Star Lea Michele Is Determined To Land Adam Lambert Cameo
    http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1625718/20091106/lambert_adam_american_idol_.jhtml

    In particular, actress Lea Michele ‘” who plays the scene-stealing Rachel Berry on “Glee” ‘” seemed determine to work with Lambert, no mater what it took to make it happen.

    “I love Adam Lambert! I want to sing with him so badly,” she said. “If they don’t let me [sing with him] on the show, I would just in life. I just want to sing with him so badly. He’s just such an incredible vocal performer, and I’m such a huge fan.

    “I feel like I’d be getting to work out at the gym with the best trainer in the world,” she continued. “You want to work out with someone who’s ripped and is going to train you well. That’s what I think about when I think of Adam Lambert. I just think he’s awesome.”

  143. The cover almost has to be Robert Pattinson, doesn’t it? New Moon has gotten a ton of publicity.

    But Twilight was big last year too and he didn’t make the cover then either (wasn’t it Hugh Jackman?). Perhaps I’m biased because I think Robert Pattison looks like he’s gone to seed since his Harry Potter days.

    I thought Bradley Cooper was the new IT guy since he was in a bunch of movies this summer (and nobody seems to remember him from his Alias days), although maybe not since they started the video with him and it would be too obvious.

    Anyway, I’m sure the publicists are working all the angles to get their guys in there and 19M will be no different. I don’t think any of them are big enough yet to get the cover.

  144. Gushing ‘“ almost as much fun as flailing.

    I’ve never flailed is it really that fun? And can I injure myself?

  145. my award for the most imaginative use of twitter to get peeps to buy FYE:

    lovinlambert Skip the $1 menu, buy @adamlambert’s For Your Entertainment download + listen + get up + shake ur booty = weightloss! fun, cheap and easy! 17 minutes ago from web

  146. I think Kris will be in there though, he’s more current than the other two. I think Cook belongs there more though, more.

    It would be great if all 3 made it. Cook has the most outside chance since he doesn’t have a new CD out or anything. Chris Daughtry is extrememly current right now, being on tour, just released the second single with a new video. They’re nominated for an AMA and are playing halftime at the Cowboys game on Thanksgiving as part of the kick off to the Salvation Army red bucket holiday campaign. Also they’re touring Europe in Jan/Feb of 2010….yep I’d have to say he falls into the very very current category. I know Kris does too….hopefully his CD sells loads and his wave of success takes off, I like him a lot and think he’s a cute kind of sexy and deserves to be in the issue, I mean he is the reigning champ that stunned a few with his win.

  147. For everybody who’s been mad at iTunes for days, it looks like they have finally updated the feeds, and Adam’s FYE is properly classified and displaying in the top songs list.

    That only took days to do. Well done iTunes! Now for all the money, can I find the song if I search for Adam Lambert and will it be displayed at the top of his list?

    Oh and 48 isn’t good. Adam better hope for some bumps from radio play, when gets it.

  148. Thanks, iTunes!!! Only took three days, but better late than never.

    This is my favorite MTV quote:

    said ‘Hi,’ but by the time I said ‘Hi,’ he was already walking past, and I was walking this way, and it was too late to accost him because he had already gone by,” the actresses laughed. “Which is probably a good thing.”

    You go, Amanda!

    And then Lea Michele:

    ‘I feel like I’d be getting to work out at the gym with the best trainer in the world,’  she continued. ‘You want to work out with someone who’s ripped and is going to train you well.

    I like her, but I just can’t imagine them singing a duet, except if they did it in the gym. ;)

  149. ‘I love him,’  Amanda Peet told MTV News of the ‘American Idol’  runner-up. ‘I love him. I love him.’ 

    John Cusack, meanwhile, was less honored than amusingly confused when asked about the man known as Glambert. ‘I have no clue,’  he confessed. ‘No, I’ve seen ‘American Idol.’ They have the guy, Dr. Sanjay Gupta. He was on that, right? Anderson Cooper won a few times.’ 

    John Cusack has no Adam love :( that okay John i still love you.

    ‘I love Adam Lambert! I want to sing with him so badly,’  she said. ‘If they don’t let me [sing with him] on the show, I would just in life. I just want to sing with him so badly. He’s just such an incredible vocal performer, and I’m such a huge fan.

    ‘I feel like I’d be getting to work out at the gym with the best trainer in the world,’  she continued. ‘You want to work out with someone who’s ripped and is going to train you well. That’s what I think about when I think of Adam Lambert. I just think he’s awesome.’ 

    Matt’s going to be jealous.

  150. The cover almost has to be Robert Pattinson…

    I will never understand the attraction to him. His eyes are so far apart they’re almost on the sides of his head. He’s very odd looking.

  151. thedavidcook Day off. Big plans…. These are exciting times.about 23 hours ago from mobile web

    hmmm, wonder what DC’s big plans were yesterday?

  152. Oh and I think Bradley Cooper as the cover is a good guess and pretty yum, so win win. Hope that all three Idol guys get in the magazine. That would be cool as well.

  153. Well, when I go to itunes I see John Mayer at #48 and Adam no where to be found……Allison and Kris are there though…70something and 98 respectively.
    I don’t think it’s fixed yet…..at least my version isn’t:(

  154. I’ve never flailed is it really that fun? And can I injure myself?

    The key is to check and make sure you have plenty of room surrounding you before you flail. Like, if you flail right beside a lamp, you might knock it over and hurt yourself. Injuries while flailing are difficult to explain to family, friends and medical staff.

    (Disclaimer: I have not been injured while flailing)

  155. For everybody who’s been mad at iTunes for days, it looks like they have finally updated the feeds, and Adam’s FYE is properly classified and displaying in the top songs list. Here are the current placements for the AI8 crew on iTunes overall:

    But still no FYE when you search Adam Lambert. To me, that’s a huge error. That’s how I find my music to download, by the artist, not the title.

  156. I have Adam at #48 on my ituns too- but something is wonky with those popularity bars. They aren’t in any kind of order- what’s up with that?

    Does anyone want to venture to guess whether the AO sales had that big of an impact on itunes sales? I know I couldn’t wait for Itunes and bought mine off AO- very possible alot of others did too?

  157. I am not sure if this has been posted but it is David Cook at 96.9 on Tuesday there are several videos:

    Oh, no, this means I have to watch videos instead of proofreading. Shucks.

    (Have I mentioned I love Acoustic Dave? *Sigh*)

  158. It should be noted that John Cusack is the guy who told Beyonce on the red carpet that he didn’t know who Beyonce was, and that he liked illegally downloading music from the internet when Beyonce asked him what music he enjoyed listening to.

    Cute and seemingly intelligent, but he’s not very current.

  159. Then they should’ve put Adam in plaid with jeans, sneakers and no make up. Heh.

    The thing is, I’ve seen lots of pictures of Adam dressed down in jeans and T shirts (even in plaid!), with little to no makeup. But he kind of exudes style even then. I think it’s the way he carries himself–he’s got great posture and presence. The fact that he’s tall and broad- shouldered doesn’t hurt either.

    I actually think that DC and Adam are sexy in a similar way. They’re smart, funny, articulate, down to earth and just seem like good guys. In a interview situation (e.g., Idolatry)–that’s when I really think Adam is sexy. I get a kick out of his on-stage sex god act, but I also think it’s kind of hilarious. And I suspect he does, too :)

    I agree that the Elle pics are a disappointment. I just don’t understand how a high fashion magazine could wind up with pics and layout that look like they should be in Bop or Tiger Beat (do those still exist–lol!)

  160. The key is to check and make sure you have plenty of room surrounding you before you flail. Like, if you flail right beside a lamp, you might knock it over and hurt yourself. Injuries while flailing are difficult to explain to family, friends and medical staff.

    (Disclaimer: I have not been injured while flailing)

    I see. The next time I listen I’m going to take a risk and try it. :)

    So those 96.9 videos look like a great opportunity.

  161. Well, when I go to itunes I see John Mayer at #48 and Adam no where to be found’ ¦’ ¦Allison and Kris are there though’ ¦70something and 98 respectively.
    I don’t think it’s fixed yet’ ¦..at least my version isn’t:(

    I would suggest using one of the live feeds (though they have not been so “live” during the wonkiness the past few days). The store itself always updates slower. Here’s a link to the Top 1000 songs. To refresh the feed, simply change the number after the “sf=” in the URL string (for instance, change it from sf=9999999 to sf=8999999):

    http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wpa/MRSS/topsongs/sf=99999999/limit=0000/rss.xml

  162. For everybody who’s been mad at iTunes for days, it looks like they have finally updated the feeds, and Adam’s FYE is properly classified and displaying in the top songs list. Here are the current placements for the AI8 crew on iTunes overall:

    FYE: #48
    LLWD: #101
    FIBOU: #118
    TfM: #151

    Want: #748

    hmmm..when i log into my itunes I still get the same stuff from two days ago and no update…bummer

  163. Cookie has tragic, tragic hair, but his features and skin are almost perfect. Some people can’t see the face for the hair, as it were.

    Heh, so true. What’s that expression DC (over)uses? Some people can’t see the forest for the trees? Likewise, some people can’t see the face for the hair =P. But I started getting DC’s sexiness at All Right Now and at the dorky Word Nerd intro video, and then it hit me big time at Hello, and he still had the tragic hair back then! But it’s true. He has good features, but needs good hair to have any shot of a more mass appeal, looks-wise.

    thedavidcook Day off. Big plans’ ¦. These are exciting times.about 23 hours ago from mobile web

    hmmm, wonder what DC’s big plans were yesterday?

    From twitter, seems like he was hanging with Tulsa buddies, and I heard rumblings about tattoos? But if DC got another tattoo, we’ll find out soon enough.

  164. Does anyone want to venture to guess whether the AO sales had that big of an impact on itunes sales? I know I couldn’t wait for Itunes and bought mine off AO- very possible alot of others did too?

    Who knows? Do we even know for sure if the AO sales will count in the “official” download sales numbers? Especially if people bought the album and got the single along with it. This is making me think more and more that RCA is potentially more interested in album sales than singles sales. IDK – whole roll out was effed up, so I’m using that as a huge disclaimer when the official #s come out.

  165. It should be noted that John Cusack is the guy who told Beyonce on the red carpet that he didn’t know who Beyonce was, and that he liked illegally downloading music from the internet when Beyonce asked him what music he enjoyed listening to.

    Cute and seemingly intelligent, but he’s not very current.

    As hot and seemingly intelligent as he is, he has a reputation as being a complete asshole (people in the industry who have worked with him have told me this)

  166. Does anyone want to venture to guess whether the AO sales had that big of an impact on itunes sales? I know I couldn’t wait for Itunes and bought mine off AO- very possible alot of others did too?

    I’m sure it did, but I bought it again off of i-Tunes and gifted it to my son who I know would love it for his workouts. It was only another $1.29. :)
    I’m also sure that RCA knows the AO sales would impact the i-Tunes sales. I’m thinking they aren’t concerned and are going for the big sales pitch for the album.

  167. I find it’s funny that in those two MTV article/clips, girls are gushing out all over Adam and guys are either amused or no clue.

  168. It should be noted that John Cusack is the guy who told Beyonce on the red carpet that he didn’t know who Beyonce was, and that he liked illegally downloading music from the internet when Beyonce asked him what music he enjoyed listening to.

    LOL..watching that video, he has no idea of what American Idol even is. He acts like he doesn’t even know where he is. Must be exhausted.

  169. LOL..watching that video, he has no idea of what American Idol even is. He acts like he doesn’t even know where he is. Must be exhausted.

    Just extremely dry wit.

  170. But still no FYE when you search Adam Lambert. To me, that’s a huge error. That’s how I find my music to download, by the artist, not the title.

    This I cannot explain, because I’ve been able to search “adam lambert” and see FYE (along with the single cover and everything) for the past 2 days, even when the feeds were down. It displays right underneath ‘No Boundries’. Here’s a screenshot, including what I typed in the search field.

    Perhaps you need to update your iTunes to get the most current version? I have iTunes 9.0.1.

  171. I agree re: Cook and Adam; they were and probably will always be my favorite Idols. Both seem genuine, humble, and are extremely articulate. Yeah, Cook dresses down and Adam likes to dress up, but as we all know, I am most fond of emo Adam hair and garb. (When he was on Oprah…OMG…cutest thing ever.) They are so talented and so happy to be where they are. While I can’t see Adam playing at county fairs where Cook was–that’s in Kris’s purview–I am just so much more attracted to their music and to them when they were on the show and still am. I voted for both of them a gazillion times. I’d do it again. I don’t know why I don’t feel the same toward Kris, tho I like him a lot, but I just don’t.

  172. On Cusack: (As hot and seemingly intelligent as he is, he has a reputation as being a complete asshole (people in the industry who have worked with him have told me this)

    Yeah, I remember reading about his *ssholishness as well. But he’s Cusack and he’ll still get work no matter what, I guess.

    I’m still laughing a bit at the hot-o-meter comparisons about the different Idols.

    Has one person yet posted something along the lines of “I can’t stand [Kris/Adam/Cook/Daughtry] and his music, but think he’s a molten hot lava bomb, unlike [Kris/Adam/Cook/Daughtry] who is super talented and whose music I adore, but is also unfortunately quite fug”? No? What a shock.

  173. This I cannot explain, because I’ve been able to search ‘adam lambert’  and see FYE (along with the single cover and everything) for the past 2 days,

    Me too.

  174. Has one person yet posted something along the lines of ‘I can’t stand [Kris/Adam/Cook/Daughtry] and his music, but think he’s a molten hot lava bomb, unlike [Kris/Adam/Cook/Daughtry] who is super talented and whose music I adore, but is also unfortunately quite fug’ ? No? What a shock.

    Uh, I kinda said that re Kris – never really cared for him on the show (just not my style of music) – but holy smokes is he a good looking guy :-) And David C and Daughtry both kinda qualified in the “loved their music WAY before thinking they looked hot, and even with them sometimes it’s a “eh, they’re just a’ight lookin'” kinda way.

  175. yeah!!!

    tunetrend Today’s iTunes HOT100 singles biggest climber to #48: For Your Entertainment ‘“ Adam Lambert http://bit.ly/2tNFWl #music

    ??? I don”t get what that means….what’s tunetrend? And there is still no banner, and it’s not listed as hot or what we’re listening to…at least it show that’s it back in the Top 50. It’s weird, tho, b/c TfM shot to #8 in less than a day. Hm. And Alli fell out of the Top 100 really fell, tho she is in the what we’re listening to section.

  176. Then they should’ve put Adam in plaid with jeans, sneakers and no make up. Heh.

    I can’t believe people are taking this comment seriously.

  177. On Cusack: (As hot and seemingly intelligent as he is, he has a reputation as being a complete asshole (people in the industry who have worked with him have told me this)

    He and Jeremy Piven used to be best friends now they can’t stand each other. The rumor is John couldn’s handle Jeremy’s succes, who knows…

  178. Actually, the AO site seems to be FILLED with mostly 12-14 year old posters. There are older ones, but if you were to read the posts, you could tell the ‘age’  group. It was the first site I found after AI ended and after about 2 weeks, I couldn’t take any more and luckily discovered MJ’s.

    On the AI Adam forums there were many, many teens. When the show ended, I wasn’t sure where they ended up, but as you mentioned probably on AO. I know I came to mjs (I’m not a teen), and I haven’t seen any of them on here.

  179. It’s weird, tho, b/c TfM shot to #8 in less than a day.

    Because all the super fans rushed to buy it.
    Those same super fans bought FYE at Adam Official, not on iTunes.
    We won’t know anything useful until SoundScan reports next week.

  180. Suebrody,

    Whole bunch of people bought TFM, then stopped and it dropped. FYE is growing organically, even after already being on AO, SonyMusic’s MyPlay(where I bought it) and Amazon, all before it was ever on itunes.

    What until next week when they actually begin promoting it….

  181. As hot and seemingly intelligent as he is, he has a reputation as being a complete asshole (people in the industry who have worked with him have told me this)

    Yeah, I’ve heard that as well. I remember reading that Jeremy Piven and he were friends, is no one else could stand their a-hole selves. And to keep it really on topic, there is going to be a video about Adam from the press conference soon, the pictures were posted here (and he was looking ADORABLE) where the interview Tweeted about how cool Adam was. Oh and what a jerk John was. Sads. But I don’t have to know or work with John, I only care about his being a good actor. Though that won’t matter with 2012, because the film is of teh suck.

  182. LOL..watching that video, he has no idea of what American Idol even is. He acts like he doesn’t even know where he is. Must be exhausted.

    Just extremely dry wit.

    He has always been a lot like Jaoquin Phoenix in interviews. I still heart him. I forgot that this is his second movie with Amanda Peet. he was also in Identity with her. Love them both.

  183. mwahhhhh, my itunes still has not updated! still the same old thing for day # 3 (except for a brief window yesterday)…but in honor of the yankees i did buy Empire State of Mind (and FYE — again.)

  184. Sue, @tunetrends is a twitter address! You didn’t know that???? lol

  185. there is going to be a video about Adam from the press conference soon, the pictures were posted here (and he was looking ADORABLE) where the interview Tweeted about how cool Adam was.

    Huh? What have I’ve been missing? There is a press conference going on?

    Edit function is weird btw… Is FYE available on UK itunes yet?

  186. what happened to Allison ??? See before itunes when tstupid Allison looked liek she was rising up the charts.

  187. It’s weird, tho, b/c TfM shot to #8 in less than a day. Hm. And Alli fell out of the Top 100 really fell, tho she is in the what we’re listening to section.

    I am not expecting FYE to be huge with sales (particularly on itunes) this week. Too many screw ups with the roll out, and plus, pretty much the only way to find it (or know about it) on itunes was to be a huge Adam fan, and many of them had already purchased through either Amazon or AO, and I’m thinking the AO sales may not even count for the singles total if they were purchased as part of the deluxe album deal.

    So, yeah – HUGE disclaimer for Adam sales this week. Best thing to do is be patient and hope RCA really starts putting more into it. Need radio interviews and promo, etc. Seemed Kris was already doing a ton of that right after LLWD was released (though Adam is appearing on a lot of music sites (billboard, mtv, radio stations, etc.) so he’s definitely getting out there.

  188. there is going to be a video about Adam from the press conference soon, the pictures were posted here (and he was looking ADORABLE) where the interview Tweeted about how cool Adam was.

    Huh? What have I’ve been missing? There is a press conference going on?

    Amelena or Amalena something like that. He said John Cusack was a jerk.

  189. Was Jon Hamm in that People montage? He should be the cover photo, IMO. Hubba Hubba.

    Yes, he was in there, and I agree, he should be Sexiest Man Alive this year. It was Hugh Jackman last year, btw.

    I had to laugh when I saw the headline about Carrie playing in Peoria. The thing is, I don’t think she is. We were getting non-stop commercials for Daughtry playing the Civic Center in Peo, and I know Cook is or was playing there, too. But AFAIK Carrie isn’t. Kinda funny.

  190. weeellll, OOOOkaaaayyy:

    hoboj03 Adam Lambert is very annoying. However, you’d have to be on drugs to say the guy can’t sing. 15 minutes ago from web

  191. I was just on Amazon and they have FYE for $.99 – not sure if that’s old news or they just changed it.

  192. I think Adam’s sales number will be much higher than the itunes charts are reflecting

  193. Well, I know that I never, ever go to AO—but I went there to purchase the single days ago because I couldn’t wait for iTunes. I would guess most of the Adam fanbase did this,too. Or Amazon. Maybe 19 wanted to see how FYE would do on iTunes when the core, AI fanbase was removed. Of course, a banner or any type of advertising would help,lol.

  194. there is going to be a video about Adam from the press conference soon, the pictures were posted here (and he was looking ADORABLE) where the interview Tweeted about how cool Adam was.

    Huh? What have I’ve been missing? There is a press conference going on?

    This was a few days ago. You can find it here: MJ page and photos

    And no, FYE isn’t avail on iTunes in the UK yet.

  195. I don’t think ITunes ranking tells us anything. I am sure 10’s of thousands purchased through Adam’s official site, not to mention Amazon. As someone said, the sales numbers next week will tell the true story. ITunes is not the place most Adam fans would use given their demographic.

  196. I have been seeing all of the tweet requests to radio stations and wonder if they disregard all the tweet requests with Adam Pics in their avatars, because they figure they are superfans???

    Does anyone know how this works in the age of twitter?

  197. I think Adam’s sales number will be much higher than the itunes charts are reflecting

    absolutely right

  198. Chicagolaw, I bought it at SonyMusic, as it was available there as well…

  199. So, for top40, what ranking is it that matters? The billboard? And that is ranked according to sales AND radioplay?

    Also, how has FYE been doing on radio the last days? Better or the same?

  200. You’re right, Ladymadonna. I’ve been looking for the album cover, for some reason. It is there for me. Man all this angsting for nothing! LOL!

  201. Love those acoustic Cook videos. Glad the station put up a bit of the Q&A stuff too.

  202. uh oh, tweet peeps hassling peoplemag twitter address because Adam not on list….

  203. Sue, @tunetrends is a twitter address! You didn’t know that???? lol

    OMG, someone I’m not following. *thwap* ;) Thanks.

  204. I just logged in to the US itunes and I see FYE in the 48th place… maybe the ranking is working again.

  205. uh oh, tweet peeps hassling peoplemag twitter address because Adam not on list’ ¦.

    good gracious….

  206. uh oh, tweet peeps hassling peoplemag twitter address because Adam not on list’ ¦.

    Oh, for God’s sake. Adam stans, leave People alone.

    “You give Glamberts…a bad name, bad name.” (sing it with me)

  207. Perez should RT tweet that Adam’s single is available on itunes. I would love it if Ryan did, but that may be a conflict of interest.

  208. rowenaaine are those numbers good (spin numbers)? I am so confused at this point that I can’t remember anything!!!! :)

  209. Squirrely
    11/06/2009 at 2:58 pm
    uh oh, tweet peeps hassling peoplemag twitter address because Adam not on list’ ¦.

    good gracious

    Agreed. *sigh* Especially if he ends up being in there which is very possible since he was part of the hottest bachelors segment. Since I am sure the trade knows how he sells magazines, it would not surprise me for him to make the cover.

  210. Is FYE available on UK itunes yet?

    That would be a big fat NO!

    Truthiness – the thread with the 2012 press conference photos didnt mention about a video interview.

  211. @suebrody – no idea, LOL. Just wanted to share that he’s up to 228 spins as of yesterday afternoon. I think it updates after 4:30 PM each day if I remember what Kirsten posted some time ago.

  212. here ya go, everyone;

    OhNoJustNo Good quality scan of Adam Lambert in Elle mag http://bit.ly/2eE6cC 7 minutes ago from web
    have to say, boots are awesome!!!!
    not to mention the LEATHER pants……

  213. Well, there are nuts in every fanbase. I remember People actually printed a letter in the magazine last year from a disgruntled Archie fan because, apparently, People was giving Cook too much attention and, “not everyone voted for him…”

  214. I think it updates after 4:30 PM each day if I remember what Kirsten posted some time ago.

    Not quite. It’s around 4:30 AM each day (PST) and includes spins up to midnight.

  215. I remember Kristen saying that Gagas single had something like a 1000 spins the first week (or maybe it was 1200?). I think the number is ok, I am not very worried. FYE is a very catchy song so when it will get more spins it’ll chart.

  216. I listened to the Roger Taylor interview again. I’m still not detecting that there is already something happening, but the two musicians (Taylor and May) were in a band with one of the best singers in the world, Freddie Mercury. For both of them to praise Adam so effusely, should be such an honor. However, I think the Queen/Adam concert will happen. It is just a matter of when.

  217. Did anyone ever see ‘Suddenly, Last Summer’, the Tennessee William’s play/movie? The part when Catherine talks about how her cousin was attacked by the locals is the vision I get whenever the overly tenacious Adam fans band against someone on Twitter.

  218. Ok, well, I just decided to go with optimism. They are great numbers! :)

  219. OhNoJustNo Good quality scan of Adam Lambert in Elle mag http://bit.ly/2eE6cC 7 minutes ago from web
    have to say, boots are awesome!!!!
    not to mention the LEATHER pants’ ¦’ ¦

    Wow – ok those boots are pretty special :-) He just needs the JACKET! to create the ultimate spiky ensemble there!

  220. …so when it will get more spins it’ll chart.

    Yep. That’s how it usually works. ;)

  221. Truthiness ‘“ the thread with the 2012 press conference photos didnt mention about a video interview.

    Oh, I thought they included the dude’s Tweets who took those photos as part of that presser, and who liked Adam and thought John Cusak was a jerk. Interviewer said Adam interview would be up next week. As this was earlier this week, guess will be avail next week sometime. Hmm. Thought it was video, maybe it’s just a regular interview. Hmmmm.

    I’ll see if I can find it.

  222. Oh, that Elle picture was not that bad!

    I like the brown, it is softer than black …

  223. Interview by Lyndsey with Randy about AI Season 9.

    *sadness, S9*

    Not even thinking about S9 at this point :-) Seriously, we have almost 3 months left before it starts, and I’ll get into it then. But until then, it’s all about S8!

    It’ll be interesting to see all the Adam wannabes in this year’s mix, though.

  224. Don’t like the fire background in the Elle pic – something just seems way too obvious about it – idk, I’d definitely prefer a more “out there” photo shoot – this one is just too perfectly Adam in a “been there done that” kind of way.

    I’m thinking of the Details shoot – which was daring and provocative, imo. This, well, just isn’t.

  225. Adam only did one radio promo. How can he get more spins/adds unless he starts doing the radio thingee that Kris has been doing for the past month or so. Unfotunately, no spins, no sales.

  226. Thanks Kirsten! I knew there was a 4:30 in there. Much appreciated. Makes much more sense for it to be up to midnight, so thank you for clarifying. Now, if I can just remember that the next time I think to post it. LOL! ;)

  227. I love Adam’s Elle picture, I was just expecting more. Maybe the website will have more pictures, later

  228. I think they are focusing on the AMA’s and preparing for his performance. There is time, he can do promos after. I think the expectations are high on what he’ll do that he has to make sure he is really well prepared. Maybe they are filming his MV as well and preparing a full frontal ASSAULT after the 22nd? I think that’s what I would do…

  229. Adam only did one radio promo. How can he get more spins/adds unless he starts doing the radio thingee that Kris has been doing for the past month or so. Unfotunately, no spins, no sales.

    Exactly. Which is why I keep wondering what is up with his lack of promo with the radio stations – doing the whole schmoozing thing, etc. Heck, Lady Gaga, EVERYONE does these things!

    Well, the HDD listing did say the promotion should kick off “next week”, which I’m guessing means the week of Nov 9? I guess? I hope? He can’t just be rehearsing for the AMA’s 24/7.

  230. Another thing I noticed about the Elle pic – apparently Adam is wearing a chain mail scarf, which is a cool accessory, but it’s almost impossible to tell that that’s what it is without the blurb because of the way it’s covered in the pic.

  231. I’m getting so freaking nervous about the AMAs. I know he will be amazing but I’m still nervous and there will be so many acts this year. I wonder where he will fall. He’ll probably open the show – For Your Entertainmnet is a great way to start the show – it makes a statement.

  232. I am extremely disappointed in the Elle spread- this is high fashion?
    Adam and Allison look positively tame, and the wings photo of Kris? Are they intentionally trying to make him look ridiculous? He is absolutely a joke in those wings- looks like any random 10 year old that rang my doorbell last week for Trick or Treat.
    Somebody should have stepped in and vetoed that photos release, because wow.

  233. saga
    11/06/2009 at 3:19 pm
    Maybe they are filming his MV as well and preparing a full frontal after the 22nd? I think that’s what I would do’ ¦

    Saga, I know you must have meant full frontal assault…but now you have my mind going elsewhere. Shall we call Playgirl for a spread?

  234. BestAI
    11/06/2009 at 3:16 pm
    Adam only did one radio promo. How can he get more spins/adds unless he starts doing the radio thingee that Kris has been doing for the past month or so. Unfotunately, no spins, no sales.

    No doubt there is some radio promo planned. But I would expect to see Adam doing interviews and not radio station sponsored performances like Kris has done. I wouldn’t be surprised it there was no Adam performance until after the AMAs on 11/22 — and maybe no MV either. They have 2-1/2 weeks until the album release and RCA usually focuses on selling the album, not the single. JMHO looks like what they are doing with Adam.

  235. Getting the AMA gig was a real coup. He will be singing his single, which happens to be the name of the Album. With only 2 weeks to put together an act, band, dancers etc. I would think that is top priority. Putting FYE out there on the 22nd will reach millions of viewers and potential non AI invested fans. Radio interviews, not so much. I’m sure that will come, but he has been lucky enough not to have to worry with the radio gigs just yet.

  236. Hey Q3 – I like the way you think. I hope you are right. I would like to see him at least do a phone-in with WPLJ and Z100 next week, though.

    PS, sorry I have not been to the Planet for a few days. It’s been a hairy week at work with late nights and early mornings. I’ll check in tonight…

  237. aga, I know you must have meant full frontal assault’ ¦but now you have my mind going elsewhere. Shall we call Playgirl for a spread?

    Opps. can’t seem to type today…

  238. rowenaiine,

    Let’s twitter bomb Playgirl for that full frontal that we are imagining(and hoping for)!! LOL!!!

  239. In one of the recent interviews Adam said he was really busy getting ready for the AMA, hiring a band and auditioning dancers, etc. He just has other stuff to do right now. He will be fine. He knows what he is doing. He may even be using the same band for a MV and wants to do it at the same time, who knows. All will be well…

  240. Maybe they are filming his MV as well and preparing a full frontal after the 22nd?

    Now that i’d like to see.

  241. edit still doesn’t work right, Anyway, loved the ‘full frontal’ comment. Getting my mind out of the gutter now, be back soon. :)

  242. Squirrely
    11/06/2009 at 3:23 pm
    I’m getting so freaking nervous about the AMAs. I know he will be amazing but I’m still nervous and there will be so many acts this year. I wonder where he will fall. He’ll probably open the show ‘“ For Your Entertainmnet is a great way to start the show ‘“ it makes a statement.

    One thing is sure, they will not open the AMA’s with Adam. They are featuring Adam in tha AMA producers Video Blog (Larry Klein) — Adam was the most talked about in all three VBlog installments. Love him, hate him, doesn’t matter — Adam gets ratings and he will at least be in the second half of the show. And Larry Klein has already said that Adam’s performance was a big production. Also, since they got the premiere performance from 19R/RCA, I am certain that Adam got a prime position in the show in exchange.

    Buderschnookie
    11/06/2009 at 3:25 pm
    I am extremely disappointed in the Elle spread- this is high fashion?
    Adam and Allison look positively tame, and the wings photo of Kris? Are they intentionally trying to make him look ridiculous? He is absolutely a joke in those wings- looks like any random 10 year old that rang my doorbell last week for Trick or Treat.
    Somebody should have stepped in and vetoed that photos release, because wow.

    ITA — I really expected something better from Elle. Adam could have done better from his own closet. And the best thing about the Alli shot is the Flying V guitar (which should have been with Kris).

    But who let them do that to Kris!!

  243. In one of the recent interviews Adam said he was really busy getting ready for the AMA, hiring a band and auditioning dancers, etc. He just has other stuff to do right now. He will be fine. He knows what he is doing. He may even be using the same band for a MV and wants to do it at the same time, who knows. All will be well’ ¦

    He could still do all of that and some radio phone interviews. Not like they take that much time to do.

  244. First review of Kris’s full album and it’s from someone who is not a fan but is impressed! It’s from Howard Cohen of the Miami Herald. His favorites include one of the songs that really stood out to me in the clips: Alright With Me, he calls it McCartneyesque!

    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/idol_watch/2009/11/review-kris-allen-the-kids-alright.html

    He’s been a big Carrie hater but he actually has some good if backhanded things to say about her new album too. His highlights seem to be Someday When I Stop Loving You (win), Look At Me (win), Cowboy Casanova (win) and Songs Like This (win). I’m glad he at least sees Carrie making progress as a singer because IMO that’s what’s most evident on Play On.

  245. Seriously, we have almost 3 months left before it starts, and I’ll get into it then. But until then, it’s all about S8!

    I think I love you…..

  246. I fail to see the catastrophe if this takes a week or two to get a huge surge.
    What’s the rush?
    AMA’s are all kinds of important and influential- everything is fine IMO.

  247. Q3
    11/06/2009 at 3:32 pm
    Squirrely
    11/06/2009 at 3:23 pm
    I’m getting so freaking nervous about the AMAs. I know he will be amazing but I’m still nervous and there will be so many acts this year. I wonder where he will fall. He’ll probably open the show ‘“ For Your Entertainmnet is a great way to start the show ‘“ it makes a statement.

    One thing is sure, they will not open the AMA’s with Adam. They are featuring Adam in tha AMA producers Video Blog (Larry Klein) ‘” Adam was the most talked about in all three VBlog installments. Love him, hate him, doesn’t matter ‘” Adam gets ratings and he will at least be in the second half of the show. And Larry Klein has already said that Adam’s performance was a big production. Also, since they got the premiere performance from 19R/RCA, I am certain that Adam got a prime position in the show in exchange.

    I got the impression they were using him for ratings too – as much as we’d love to see him right away as the opener, too many people that tuned in just for Adam would then turn it off. I agree that it will be a big production, probably toward the middle or late second half of the show. Of course, I don’t want to sit through the whole thing *shakes fist* but they’ve got me now, along with a whole load of us, as a captive audience!

  248. I just don’t think RCA is in any kind of rush when it comes to the single. It is a definitely catchy song, and I think they are confident that it will take off on radio. I think they will let the AMA performance really kick things off and go from there.

    I don’t no where in the line-up Adam’s performance will fall, but, opening would have to be the prime position. It is a long show, and not everybody in the TV audience makes it through to the end. I would guess, though, that nearly everyone catches the opening number.

  249. One teeny weeny radio interview is all I’m asking for…or a couple…that has nothing to do with TfM, that is, much as I love TfM….

    I cannot WAIT FOR THE AMAs. Wish I could have gone (are you going, girlygirl?). *grumblelivinginginBostongrumble*

  250. FYE is gaining radio spins and will probably get adds to tons more stations next week. I think Adam’s album will have a good opening week but no S8 singles are doing great in sales.

    I know iTunes screwed up but even Amazon doesn’t have Adam’s single in the top 10. Maybe the show is losing its ability to sell singles. Maybe Adam’s audience is older and will buy albums. Weird, weird.

  251. How is that a problem?

    it’s not.but wouldn’t it be better,theoretically speaking,if fye was high on the charts? like the top 10? it’ll get more radio spins.more people will know,hear and possibly like his single and be tempted to check out the album.if they’re not going to promote it until after the ama’s I don’t see the above scenario happening….

    not neccesarily a problem,though…

  252. One appearance on the AMA isn’t going to ignite the song. They have 2 more weeks to get radio plays and hopefully other appearances lined up. It’s not like Idol where one night is life or death. The song hopefully will generate good buzz from the AMAs but people will forget about it quickly. That’s why they need to hear it on the radio 24/7.

  253. Elle mag
    The explanation for those photos is more ridiculas than the photo of Kris
    with wings.

  254. One appearance on the AMA isn’t going to ignite the song. They have 2 more weeks to get radio plays and hopefully other appearances lined up. It’s not like Idol where one night is life or death. The song hopefully will generate good buzz but people will forget about it quickly. That’s why they need to hear it on the radio 24/7.

    And that’s why we just saw…

    RCA has high hopes for what it sees as the massive potential of the high-profile, flamboyant Lambert; the label will begin working a single next week.

  255. One appearance on the AMA isn’t going to ignite the song. They have 2 more weeks to get radio plays and hopefully other appearances lined up. It’s not like Idol where one night is life or death. The song hopefully will generate good buzz but people will forget about it quickly. That’s why they need to hear it on the radio 24/7.

    I don’t agree jpfan, I think the AMA gig is a HUGE opportunity! It COULD have a great impact, imo. I agree that it still needs to get airplay though but they can certainly afford to wait with radio promotion till after the album drops.

  256. Maybe the show is losing its ability to sell singles.

    Or maybe the singles aren’t good? I dunno though. Cuz it seemed a lot of people didn’t like LO when it came out last year and it still started off much better. Why didn’t FYE do as well as Crush? Big single release from a huge fan favorite runner-up that had a major radio station premiere. Maybe cuz Adam isn’t making the radio rounds promoting it yet?

    But I still say LLWD and FYE both have the potential to do well in the future given time for airplay to grow. It does appear that 19/RCA will use the Adam promotional storm til the week of his album release to push the song further. So we’ll just have to wait and see what happens then. LO didn’t really pick up in airplay until DC did promotional rounds the week of his album drop. FYE isn’t everywhere yet, but it could be soon.

  257. jpfan, I think a lot of Adam’s fans bought the single from his website, which had it up for sale really quick after the radio debut. That’s where I got it, and normally I get singles from iTunes. So, it will be interesting to see what the actual numbers are next week. I do think that RCA is very “album focused,” which is good (at least that is how it seemed last year with Cook). And, I don’t think anyone is expecting the AMA performance to do all the work, just that it might be a good kick-off point for promotion. Obviously, FYE needs spins, which it seems to be getting.

  258. One appearance on the AMA isn’t going to ignite the song. They have 2 more weeks to get radio plays and hopefully other appearances lined up. It’s not like Idol where one night is life or death. The song hopefully will generate good buzz from the AMAs but people will forget about it quickly. That’s why they need to hear it on the radio 24/7.

    Exactly. So this…

    RCA has high hopes for what it sees as the massive potential of the high-profile, flamboyant Lambert; the label will begin working a single next week.

    This better be right, because putting everything on an AMA performance is risky and stupid. Though I still don’t get why they wouldn’t have made the push for the first week it was actually OUT. I know, crazy talk.

    But in any event, RCA needs to get on the effin’ stick and try and get Adam on the radio, with interviews, with whatever they have, to get it radio play and sooner, rather than later and just hoping that somehow Adam’ will generate everthing himself. He might have been able to generate some buzz for himself, but as we’ve seen with TfM and now FYE, that isn’t necessarily translating to buying his music, and won’t unless they connect the two and get people to buy his music, outside of his fanbase. The idiots.

  259. One appearance on the AMA isn’t going to ignite the song.

    Depends on how good the performance is.

    I’ve gone to the theater after the Tony’s. I’ve gone to the movies after the Oscars. So I bet people buy albums after the AMA’s.

  260. hmmm, wonder what DC’s big plans were yesterday?

    From twitter, seems like he was hanging with Tulsa buddies, and I heard rumblings about tattoos

    What?? Noooooo, don’t cover those pretty arms with more ink, Cook!
    I do NOT want him looking like Neal (ummm, no offense Neal fans).

  261. I hate it when they compare to other idols, rather than just look at the music itself. I know it’s inevitable, but still.

  262. Jim is back to his Kris fawning (it had been, what, a day?) ;)

    @jambajim

    Live like we’re Brian! #KrisAllenRockStar #KrisAllenClockStar #KrisAllensEffingSingleWontGetOuttaMyHeadGahhh2 minutes ago from UberTwitter

    I don’t think he means Brian May, tho. :)

  263. See, I guess everyone here has a (normal) tendency to is look at the release of Adam’s single through the historical Idol looking glass. I just personally, as a pretty fervent record buyer (had over 400 LPs, and have over 22,000 songs in my iTunes collection), don’t see a need to have a song go to number one 24 hours after it’s release. I hear the same songs on the radio now that I have been hearing for months. I don’t expect to hear FYE every two hours on the radio yet like they play Cascada, Britney, Taylor, GaGa, BEP, etc. I mean, it only debuted a week ago this morning. *shrug*

    I suppose, as an Idol alum, Adam (and Kris, Alli, Danny, et. al.) has to be compared to previous seasons and situations. But outside the Idol fanbase, I’m not sure anyone else looks at it that way. I’m just content to wait until things happen. I love looking at the chart positions and spins and adds (now that I know about them) but I’m more excited about getting my album in 16 days (who’s counting though) and seeing him perform in 15 days. To me, it’s all good!

    Regardless of whether the single does well now or later (or never), I doubt Adam is going away quietly anytime soon. ;)

  264. “On Cusack: (As hot and seemingly intelligent as he is, he has a reputation as being a complete asshole (people in the industry who have worked with him have told me this)

    He and Jeremy Piven used to be best friends now they can’t stand each other. The rumor is John couldn’s handle Jeremy’s succes, who knows’ ¦”

    maybe he is jealous because Adam is getting more attention regarding the movie than he is

  265. Depends on how good the performance is.

    I’ve gone to the theater after the Tony’s. I’ve gone to the movies after the Oscars. So I bet people buy albums after the AMA’s.

    Yes, a good performance on the AMAs will move units, but the effect tends to be very short-lived. A week or two at the most. That’s why it’s important to have other things to back it up and airplay is one of the traditional methods of generating constant exposure.

    Certainly, you can explode with a very good performance (e.g. Ricky Martin at the Grammy’s one year where he turned in a very exciting performance on a rather bland night and made everybody forget about Muenodo), but that is rare.

    RCA has high hopes for what it sees as the massive potential of the high-profile, flamboyant Lambert; the label will begin working a single next week.

    Next week? Colour me confused. Why didn’t they get off their arses and do it this week when he went for adds and released his single for sale? What are they doing? It’s almost as if they are going with the traditional wait two-three weeks from release date to add/push date, but somebody sent it for adds early. Is some low level clerk just now getting his butt chewed off for a typo? Or did they think that he was the next Lady Gaga and they didn’t need to do any work? IDK.

  266. Not sure why so much angst over local radio interviews – Kris has been doing them and has sold 10K a week – would he have only sold 5K per week without doing interviews? We’re talking 5-10 minute interviews, that as others have said have no bearing on whether the station adds the song right away. They add it when they want to add it regardless. Adam is a new artist, and he will have to earn his airplay and sales like every other new artist. His song has only been available to radio stations for a week and has been consistently increasing in spins and has about 15 adds. Yes, we don’t know how many downloads he sold yet and it probably won’t be some huge amount, but I guess I’m not seeing the doom and gloom.

  267. What?? Noooooo, don’t cover those pretty arms with more ink, Cook!
    I do NOT want him looking like Neal (ummm, no offense Neal fans).

    None taken. :). Did Neal ever get that Buffalo Bills tattoo like he said he would?

  268. Concentrating on something that makes me less stabby than iTunes and/or RCA…I like that review of Kris. I do think it’s going to be a solid record, especially considering it had to make it’s way through through the 19Evil machine. I disagree with him about Can’t Stay Away, but maybe I won’t like the album version as much, either. I hope not, as it’s my favourite song. And I also got the sort of McCartney-esque vibe to that “Alright With Me,” though it’s still not one of my faves, it’s an okay, bouncy song (or so I think from some small clip with bad quality).

    But great words from this guy, ahead of even Kelly, whoa!

  269. Kirsten, do you think RCA wanted to wait until Carrie made the rounds this week with radio interviews, so Adam could have next week’s focus? Just curious if that is a factor.

  270. Next week? Colour me confused.

    I find their wording strange “working a single”. Sounds like they’re still going to decide what’s the single and release it. They’ve been working the single since last friday when they release it.
    It’s not that I don’t trust HDD’s info, but I remember last year they’d have blurbs for Cook and they’d keep announcing things that had already happened. So maybe next week means this week?

  271. RCA has high hopes for what it sees as the massive potential of the high-profile, flamboyant Lambert; the label will begin working a single next week.

    Next week? Colour me confused. Why didn’t they get off their arses and do it this week when he went for adds and released his single for sale? What are they doing? It’s almost as if they are going with the traditional wait two-three weeks from release date to add/push date, but somebody sent it for adds early.

    Exactly!

    Which is making me stabby again/still with RCA. What the actual frack? And yes, they need to start NOW with trying to get this single some airplay/traction and ramp up to the AMAs and keep what is hopefully, some good momentuem from that.

    grrrr. Definitely stabby again. I think I’ll go re-read that nice review of Kris’s album to calm down again.

  272. Kirsten, do you think RCA wanted to wait until Carrie made the rounds this week with radio interviews, so Adam could have next week’s focus?

    No. Carrie and Adam are aiming at completely different formats. I cannot see FYE getting any spins on Country stations. Carrie has gotten traction on HAC/Pop in the past, but I don’t think she spent her week interviewing with vary many stations in either of those formats. She needs to get the word out to her market this week and can work on expanding to other formats later.

    So, I don’t think that Carrie and Adam would be competing for radio interviews. Adam and Rihana, sure. Carrie and Gokey, sure. But not Adam and Carrie. They could be competing for talk shows, but one generally waits until the album comes out to do those so I don’t see them competing this week.

  273. Speaking of numbers, I don’t think this one was posted, Kris’ pre-order is at #89.

  274. OK. I asked because I heard Carrie on WPLJ’s morning show yesterday plugging the album and the Christmas special, and they played Cowboy Cassanova afterward. I think that may get some HAC play.

  275. So, Kirsten, do you think RCA isn’t being pro-active or they jumped the gun with FYE? It seems odd, tho Jive did that with Alli’s single…

  276. Next week? Colour me confused. Why didn’t they get off their arses and do it this week when he went for adds and released his single for sale? What are they doing?

    my thoughts exactly….

  277. I don’t usually post pics but this one is just too cute for words. From Dave’s recent acoustic radio set (someone posted video links above). The kid’s shirt says “Cook is My Hero”.

  278. omg, I FLOVE that look!!! can’t look away from it.

    me neither. love the ponytail.

  279. Too slow as usual with that picture and WordPress won’t let me edit, so here’s another crumb. About halfway through this interview, Ed Roland gives thoughts on American Idol and the talent that comes from the show, his post-Idol friendship with David Cook, and Cook’s performance of TWIK as his Idol swan song:

    @collective_soul: Ed Roland discusses @TheDavidCook, recording, & much more http://su.pr/AijfCA

  280. http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2009/11/4-ways-live-and-digital-music-are-teaming-up-to-rock-your-world/

    4 Ways Live and Digital Music Are Teaming Up to Rock Your World

    …A Google spokesman said YouTube plans to look for more shows like the U2 webcast on a case by case basis, but Billboard launched an ongoing concert series, Billboard Live, with a live R. Kelly show from Dallas that let fans choose between four high-bandwidth Microsoft Silverlight streams using partner OWLive’s technology. IPhone users watched the show in near-real-time through an app using iStreamPlanet’s first-ever bandwidth-adaptive HTTP stream of live music to a phone. Billboard plans to do the same for shows by David Archuleta, Daughtry, Alicia Keys, Usher and others….

  281. Just a cute Idol pic from the web to brighten the day

    Oh, Good Grief. I love him.

    @collective_soul: Ed Roland discusses @TheDavidCook, recording, & much more http://su.pr/AijfCA

    Very, very cool. Ed Roland seems like a great guy. David is forming some really terrific friendships.

  282. OK. I asked because I heard Carrie on WPLJ’s morning show yesterday plugging the album and the Christmas special, and they played Cowboy Cassanova afterward. I think that may get some HAC play

    It’s possible that CC might cross-over. I still think they wouldn’t have been competing much for interviews.

    Every week from know until Christmas, there are going to be big releases, so artists have to get their elbows up and get those radio interviews (if they want them).

    So, Kirsten, do you think RCA isn’t being pro-active or they jumped the gun with FYE?

    This might not be popular, but I think they got caught flat-footed. I think they thought Adam had a stronger fan base and they didn’t need to do anything to get big opening sales. Their plan was to start working the single close to the release date so that it would take off within two weeks after the release and support the album. I think they thought they had a Daughtry/Aiken situation where people would be out to prove that the wrong guy won.

    What they didn’t factor in is that people aren’t as concerned anymore when they think the wrong guy won because you don’t have to win AI to win most CDs sold. So, the passion just isn’t there. Nobody feels the need to right the wrong by buying 47 CDs and making mobiles out of them.

    So, now, they had to rush the strategy. They hoped that dropping the CD for adds without proper legwork would still be successful because of all the hype. But that hype has been from print and television media. It hasn’t so much been from radio (which didn’t play the crap out of his Idol songs or TfM…unlike Daughtry who did have radio in his corner). So, now they have to wait to do the legwork and RCA can’t turn on a dime. Plus, this isn’t the only project they have out there.

    This is not to say that Adam is doomed. Far from it. He has a lot going for him (from his voice to his hype to his ability to perform to support from a lot of people in the entertainment biz), it’s just that I think RCA miscalculated and they have to work a little harder. Happens all the time.

    I know that some people think that this is all orchestrated down to the T and everything is unfolding just as RCA had planned. And that may be totally what is happening. I’m no expert. This is just my opinion and my opinion is that the orchestra is out of tune.

    And before anybody asks about Kris and Jive, it would seem that Jive was prepared for less than stellar results out of the box (they are a more conservative company) and have been doing the legwork all along. This may pay off for them in the end, but it’s still the start of that race.

    As for Jive and Allison, I don’t know what the hell they are doing, but if they haven’t always been planning on releasing her album after Christmas, I think they are doing something wrong.

  283. Maybe they are filming his MV as well and preparing a full frontal after the 22nd?

    LOL – best. quote. today. period. Ah, one can dream ;-)

    Or maybe the singles aren’t good? I dunno though. Cuz it seemed a lot of people didn’t like LO when it came out last year and it still started off much better. Why didn’t FYE do as well as Crush? Big single release from a huge fan favorite runner-up that had a major radio station premiere. Maybe cuz Adam isn’t making the radio rounds promoting it yet?

    Yeah – I still think this year has stronger singles than last year, especially with LO not even being popular among the Cook fans. That’s what makes it more frustrating that these three aren’t doing better. I really really can’t believe the AI fanbases are THAT small compared to last year (even with the ratings drop, which imo was not a big deal for an 8 yr old show). But, I have faith, really I do :-)

    As for the AMA’s – I’m just hoping he doesn’t play it safe – that might be the worst thing he could do. Something safe and mostly forgettable. Hopefully he’s given the freedom to really do something, dare I say, controversial, during the performance. It would fit him to a T (controversy practically being his middle name) and do the most good in terms of getting a lot of post-show buzz.

  284. 123abc456
    11/06/2009 at 1:57 pm
    I am not sure if this has been posted but it is David Cook at 96.9 on Tuesday there are several videos:
    http://www.mix969.com/pages/promo/unplugged/dave-cook/jump-0909.php?v=david-cook-heroes

    Thanks for the links. That’s a lovely accoustic Heroes. And some charming Q&A. Did he really think we wouldn’t recognize him in the Greenman outfit? How cute is that? I mean I’m pretty sure his fans woud recognize him in a burka. Not me, umm, I mean other fans. Nevermind.

    Kirsten
    11/06/2009 at 4:27 pm
    Next week? Colour me confused. Why didn’t they get off their arses and do it this week when he went for adds and released his single for sale? What are they doing? It’s almost as if they are going with the traditional wait two-three weeks from release date to add/push date, but somebody sent it for adds early. Is some low level clerk just now getting his butt chewed off for a typo? Or did they think that he was the next Lady Gaga and they didn’t need to do any work? IDK.

    It does seem odd, doesn’t it? My impression from watching RCA with the David Cook roll out last year is that they counted on AI fans to prime the pump, which allowed them to save their promo money for few weeks. I’m thinking maybe that was the strategy with Adam as well, but that we’re just not seeing the kind of built-in fan created momentum out of the starting blocks that David had. Not to say Adam won’t be fine in the long run, but it does seem that he going to need radio to actually embrace him as the male Gaga in fairly short order, RCA to get it’s act together, or both to get some momemtum going here. The press has set high expectations, and if he doesn’t live up to them fairly quickly I’m guessing we’ll see negative articles about not living up to the “hype” within a few weeks.

  285. Maybe they are filming his MV as well and preparing a full frontal after the 22nd?

    As for the AMA’s ‘“ I’m just hoping he doesn’t play it safe ‘“ that might be the worst thing he could do. Something safe and mostly forgettable. Hopefully he’s given the freedom to really do something, dare I say, controversial, during the performance. It would fit him to a T (controversy practically being his middle name) and do the most good in terms of getting a lot of post-show buzz.

    Full frontal… controversial… that’s got Flaming Codpiece written all over it. You heard it here, first, folks. Just sayin’….

  286. This might not be popular, but I think they got caught flat-footed. I think they thought Adam had a stronger fan base and they didn’t need to do anything to get big opening sales.

    Ok – my take, though, on this is: who DOESN’T need some kind of publicity? In terms of making the radio rounds, schmoozing with the radio, etc. I keep bringing this up, but Lady Gaga was making the rounds for Bad Romance recently, and she already has much bigger buzz, bonafide hits, etc. Point being that if she was doing that kind of stuff, I can’t imagine the thought that Adam, with his debut single – as a new artist, wouldn’t too. That’s what I don’t get.

    Plus, even if the AI fanbase had been HUGE, and bought 100,000 copies of the songs the first week, that would just be the AI base, and sales would quickly plummet if it didn’t get outside the bubble – so I can’t imagine the strategy really would have been to have it sky rocket from the get go – without the added radio push, or some kind of publicity – it would have gone nowhere from there. IDK – just some thoughts.

  287. Did he really think we wouldn’t recognize him in the Greenman outfit? How cute is that? I mean I’m pretty sure his fans woud recognize him in a burka.

    Yeah, and with the Greenman suit it wasn’t even the body shape that was the giveaway – it was the ginormous noggin.

  288. Full frontal’ ¦ controversial’ ¦ that’s got Flaming Codpiece written all over it. You heard it here, first, folks. Just sayin” ¦.

    Lol – I like the way you think ;-) Some tv required censorship during his performance would not bother me (well, the censorship would, but the need to censor it would not…)

  289. @collective_soul: Ed Roland discusses @TheDavidCook, recording, & much more http://su.pr/AijfCA

    Thanks. The song Ed co-wrote with David is still my favorite snippet. I would love it hear it, so badly.

    This might not be popular, but I think they got caught flat-footed. I think they thought Adam had a stronger fan base and they didn’t need to do anything to get big opening sales.

    I tend to agree with this. Not only the sales but also the way radio received it. I think they probably expected a Crush like situation. A top40 song, from someone with a good fanbase,that would debut in a major station and get picked up from there. But, at the moment, FYE is not being received by radio the way Crush was.
    Even though Itunes has been acting weird, I don’t think that affects the song’s sales much. You could still find it and buy it without problems. I’m sure most people didn’t even noticed itunes was frozen
    Btw, I just wanted to add that I don’t remember Archie doing radio promo right after the release. He was on tour, I think the promo only came a week after..

  290. It doesn’t seem like RCA and 19 are doing much for Adam unless someone approaches them like Rolling Stone did. They seem to expect people to come to them and if they don’t then nothing happens. They don’t do anything affirmatively from their side. That won’t work out well.

    It’s so stupid on their part because they poured all this money into hooking him up with big name producers but if you don’t promote it it doesn’t matter if the music is good or crap.

    I don’t know what the thinking was with making the single available at the official site but it really took the wind out of their sails on itunes. With that plus no promotion anywhere on the itunes site and little radio play I’m surprised it’s charting at all.

    If you want to compare to other Idols I think you should use Daughtry as a model because I think he had a late release with his single. I don’t remember how he did on radio or in terms of single sales. I don’t remember anything about how that worked now.

  291. it’s just that I think RCA miscalculated and they have to work a little harder. Happens all the time.

    I know that some people think that this is all orchestrated down to the T and everything is unfolding just as RCA had planned. And that may be totally what is happening. I’m no expert. This is just my opinion and my opinion is that the orchestra is out of tune.

    I agree with all of it. I don’t think that Adam had the fanbase that they thought he did, or they didn’t feel the need to make solar collectors with CDs, not to mention the economy is such crap now that people can’t afford to do that anymore. So yeah, I think that RCA didn’t think they needed to do as much as they will need to for Adam and the single is showing the weaknesses in their non-strategy and Adam’s fanbase/draw of non-AI fans to purchase his music.

    So yeah, I know it’s like steering a battleship, but I hope they have an effing clue by now and start some active steering. And no, one bit on the AMAs doesn’t count as all they need to do. Not even close.

    But despite Jive being prepared for Kris’s maybe tougher sell and doing more, got to say, not a lot of strength there as well, though it has been solid and maintaining, which is a feat unto it’s self and does bespeak that people are still buying his single upon more exposure to him.

    And yeah, Allison, oh Allison.

    As for Jive and Allison, I don’t know what the hell they are doing, but if they haven’t always been planning on releasing her album after Christmas, I think they are doing something wrong.

    Well considering her album is going to be released 12/3, than they are offically doing it wrong. I agree an I’m pissed at the lame roll-out with her. Aborted iTunes/Amazon single, the lack of promotion, the rest.

    Okay, back to do something that makes less cranky, like work. And what a bad sign that is.

  292. This might not be popular, but I think they got caught flat-footed. I think they thought Adam had a stronger fan base and they didn’t need to do anything to get big opening sales.

    I don’t think they got caught flat-footed so much as changed the game as soon as he was invited for a debut performance on the AMAs. It delayed the single, and now it’s delaying the rounds of publicity, since he can’t perform it anywhere. However, we clearly see he’s got major appearances scheduled beginning immediately afterward, and he’s crazy busy right now getting ready, so why all the panic?

  293. RCA prob. gave the song a week to be tested. If nothing happens next week (per HDD) then we should worry.

    It hasn’t so much been from radio (which didn’t play the crap out of his Idol songs or TfM’ ¦unlike Daughtry who did have radio in his corner).

    Daughtry had 3 adds in his first week in radio, someone got the info together yesterday on Hoopla. He ended up with lots of support, but it was not immediate at all:

    Daughtry’s first single “It’s Not Over”

    Week 1: 3 adds
    Week 2: 7 adds
    Week 3: 11 adds (album is released)
    Week 4: 23 adds

    By the end of 2006 it was added to 152 radio stations

  294. As for the AMA’s ‘“ I’m just hoping he doesn’t play it safe ‘“ that might be the worst thing he could do.

    I think the worst he could do is look unprofessional. He is known for being a performer so he probably wont take the easy way out and just stand there and sing. He has to do a lot of work to put together something interesting and hire people in such short time. Thats why I think worrying about radio promotion right now is ridiculous, there is time for that later.

  295. Kirsten, what you are saying makes a lot of sense, but at the same time, it scares me.

  296. Ok ‘“ my take, though, on this is: who DOESN’T need some kind of publicity? In terms of making the radio rounds, schmoozing with the radio, etc. I keep bringing this up, but Lady Gaga was making the rounds for Bad Romance recently, and she already has much bigger buzz, bonafide hits, etc. Point being that if she was doing that kind of stuff, I can’t imagine the thought that Adam, with his debut single ‘“ as a new artist, wouldn’t too. That’s what I don’t get.

    Clive, former head of RCA, openly stated in an interview that he doesn’t think Idols need a lead-off single because the existing fan base will do the work. For years, RCA followed the pattern of not releasing lead-off singles for Idols and it worked for them. The only reason I think Cook got a lead-off single was because he was going to be on SNL and needed something to sing (and maybe because he was getting killed in the press due to Crush’s success).

    Clive may have been right years ago, but I think that AI is getting older and people aren’t so quick to automatically rush to the store and buy their Idol favourite.

  297. But despite Jive being prepared for Kris’s maybe tougher sell and doing more, got to say, not a lot of strength there as well, though it has been solid and maintaining, which is a feat unto it’s self and does bespeak that people are still buying his single upon more exposure to him.

    You’re right. Kris hasn’t had stellar result up to date. Can you imagine how much worse they would have been if Jive had not taken the conservative approach they did? If they’d just flung his single out and expected it to fly without proper label support?

  298. What they didn’t factor in is that people aren’t as concerned anymore when they think the wrong guy won because you don’t have to win AI to win most CDs sold. So, the passion just isn’t there. Nobody feels the need to right the wrong by buying 47 CDs and making mobiles out of them.

    That’s a very interesting theory. You may be right… but what about Archie’s 180K (or so) debut of Crush? A lot of it can be attributed to radio play it had built up already, yes, but I also always thought part of the reason it got to #1 on iTunes by like mid-afternoon of release day was because his fanbase had something to prove…? Maybe people don’t believe that, but if they do, between 2008 and 2009, fans of non-winners suddenly realized they’re not concerned about this stuff anymore? Maybe there are still those fanbases that are driven to buying frenzies for their non-winning faves, but Adam just doesn’t have a big one, unlike Archie last year…? Actually, I think I agree with you, but just playing devils advocate for a moment .

    Daughtry had 3 adds in his first week in radio, someone got the info together yesterday on Hoopla. He ended up with lots of support, but it was not immediate at all:

    Interesting. Daughtry’s album basically opened huge without the benefit of radioplay. I don’t think RCA is expecting that from Adam. I think they realize Idols’ album-buying fanbases aren’t what they were in S5 (see, I do agree with Kirsten), and cannot expect Adam to open well without something doing decently well on the radio.

  299. Daughtry had 3 adds in his first week in radio, someone got the info together yesterday on Hoopla. He ended up with lots of support, but it was not immediate at all:

    No, it wasn’t immediate, but he was getting support from stations during the summer. He had to work for it, but I think radio was pretty receptive to him. And remember, his add date wasn’t until a few weeks after the album dropped, so he had a lot of stations adding in advance to the push from the label.

  300. Exactly!

    Which is making me stabby again/still with RCA. What the actual frack? And yes, they need to start NOW with trying to get this single some airplay/traction and ramp up to the AMAs and keep what is hopefully, some good momentuem from that.

    grrrr. Definitely stabby again. I think I’ll go re-read that nice review of Kris’s album to calm down again.

    Truthiness – we seriously need to be in the same room to curse together – lol – you crack me up!

    Yes – my thoughts are – how is all the buzz around Adam NOT connecting with bigger music success? The guy is an AMAZING vocalist, so it’s not like he has no musical talent. He’s gotten tons of buzz, and for a reason at that. I know people who mention that they keep hearing about him, even though they never followed him, or even AI. So imo there is something not right if that kind of buzz isn’t able to connect to getting him more sales, radio play, etc.

    I do see the point, though, of how his earlier PR may have been way more focused on TV, mags, online, etc. rather than radio. But that makes no sense if you’re a singer trying to sell music.

    Ok, ending on a happy note:

    Adam in TV Guide:

    http://www.tvguidemagazine.com/news/adam-lambert-talks-new-album-3125.html

    omg, I FLOVE that look!!! can’t look away from it.

    I too LOVE that look. Really pretty!

  301. This might not be popular, but I think they got caught flat-footed. I think they thought Adam had a stronger fan base and they didn’t need to do anything to get big opening sales. Their plan was to start working the single close to the release date so that it would take off within two weeks after the release and support the album. I think they thought they had a Daughtry/Aiken situation where people would be out to prove that the wrong guy won

    I really don’t know what RCA’s thinking might be, but I know what mine is. I’m not buying Adam’s single because I’ll definitely buy the CD and don’t care to pay for the same thing twice. Plus I won’t bother with the inferior fidelity of downloaded tracks when I’ll have the pristine quality of a hard copy. I buy singles only when I won’t be buying the CD. Maybe that’s the same line a lot of others are thinking along as well.

  302. Seriously, does anyone have any theory as to why RCA/19 decided to sell FYE through the website, like a week before iTunes put it up? Obviously they had to know that this would pretty much kill any chance of a “splashy” opening on the iTunes chart. Maybe RCA isn’t concerned with this, and it is only Idol fans who watch this stuff? Still isn’t getting on the front page great, free advertising?

    Here is the mystery with Archie—Crush zoomed up the chart; but his fanbase couldn’t get the next single to even make iTunes top 100. How does that happen? And it seemed like DA’s fanbase tried pretty hard, they were certainly pretty stressed about it—shouldn’t these fans alone have been more than enough?

  303. Continuing with my tracking of David Cook’s album sales –

    WEEK 44
    50 – 437,700 – DAVID COOK – David Cook

    That makes a total of 1,249,367, with ~1500 sold this week.

  304. I really don’t know what RCA’s thinking might be, but I know what mine is. I’m not buying Adam’s single because I’ll definitely buy the CD and don’t care to pay for the same thing twice

    This could definitely be part of what’s hurting all three of them this year, especially compared to years past. Bad economy, less disposable income. I feel like I’m pretty crazy to buy multiple copies of the songs that I’ll eventually get when I buy the album, and I’m a hardcore fan.

    Maybe we really do have a lot less people buying 150 copies of everything this year. TBH, that would kind of be a good thing imo.

  305. I sent a stinking email to iTunes yesterday about several issues, including FYE. Here is an excerpt from the response I received:

    I see that you have some concerns about the track listed as “For Your Entertainment” disappeared suddenly from the top albums listed, as well as a few other items. I do wan to first assure you that the iTunes Store does not usually affect the items appearing on top songs and albums, as these lists are generated by the amount of downloads for the tracks from members.

    As you mentioned the song was listed in the top albums category, the song was likely removed to be corrected. Whenever an issue is reported with media in the Store, we will remove the item, and investigate the file. Once it has been corrected, we will place the item in the Store once more. I have taken the liberty of reviewing the top chart lists and was able to find the single “For Your Entertainment” listed at 48 in the top 200 songs list.

  306. Here is the mystery with Archie’”Crush zoomed up the chart; but his fanbase couldn’t get the next single to even make iTunes top 100. How does that happen?

    When a second single is released many people already have the album, so they won’t buy the single. It takes a lot more time to a non first single to climb the charts. Archie’s hardcore/internet fanbase maybe tried to get it to top 100, but most of his fans didn’t. The 180K weren’t just hardcore fans buying it

    Bad economy, less disposable income.

    So instead of buying a $1.29 single people decide to buy a $10 (or more) album? Wouldn’t it be the other way around?.

  307. Mary102—That makes sense. I bought the single, but I certainly won’t be buying multiple copies. I am already going to get 2 copies of the cd since I just preordered the deluxe one. And, once the album is out there will be no reason to purchase any extra copies of singles.

  308. So instead of buying a $1.29 single people decide to buy a $10 (or more) album? Wouldn’t it be the other way around?.

    Why buy a single for $1.29 when you’re just going to get it, and 13 other tracks, for $9.99? I had the same thought, believe it or not, and I would be one of those BIG fans. Maybe people are just getting a little more practical.

  309. Though if we’re talking fanbases, I am making peace with the idea that Adam does not have as large a one as the Davids last year (though I’ll admit that still boggles the mind – sorry can’t help it). But he IS incredibly polarizing (unlike the Davids last year), and has been since day 1. That’s just the way it is – and that, in effect, is part of why he has also gotten so much more media buzz than anyone else – you love him, you hate him, you want to talk about him.

    But bottom line is all three of these guys are INSANELY talented, and deserve to be doing really well for many years to come.

  310. Seriously, does anyone have any theory as to why RCA/19 decided to sell FYE through the website, like a week before iTunes put it up?

    Because iTunes takes away a big chunk of the profit? I’m sure they are just trying to maximise their profit, and trying out different ways to see how they can best sell their songs.

  311. Seriously, does anyone have any theory as to why RCA/19 decided to sell FYE through the website, like a week before iTunes put it up?

    I also think this hints at a bigger interest in album vs single sales. AO was pushing the single in conjunction with the deluxe album. Probably hoping for multiple cd buys from hardcore fans (as in, buy the itunes album to get the itunes bonus track, buy the deluxe one on AO, etc.

  312. Why buy a single for $1.29 when you’re just going to get it, and 13 other tracks, for $9.99? I had the same thought, believe it or not, and I would be one of those BIG fans. Maybe people are just getting a little more practical.

    I can tell you fans from other seasons have said the same thing. Every year there’s the “I won’t buy the single but I’ll buy the album”. So, no, nothing new here.
    What I think is that it’s not a money problem. I mean, of course money IS a problem, just like it is every year, and especially last year. But if people are willing to pre-order an album that they have never heard and are saving money to buy an album they haven’t heard, the problem doesn’t seem to be money
    Can’t people complete the album on itunes without it being more expensive? I’ve never done it, but I believe it is possible..

  313. What I think is that it’s not a money problem. I mean, of course money IS a problem, just like it is every year, and especially last year.

    True – I don’t think this is THE main problem, and it’s certainly not the only one. The earlier comments about fanbase size, PR strategies for all three this year, are more indicative of the actual problem.

  314. Can’t people complete the album on itunes without it being more expensive?

    You can definitely complete the album when you are first buying one song from an album but what about when the song is sold as a “single”? Is it somehow separate from the album?

    I’m fairly new at using iTunes and I have actually never bought a whole album from iTunes (if I want the whole album, I will buy a physical cd).

  315. To be fair I also think there’s a problem of Itunes promo. Even though singles don’t get those pretty large banners, there’s usually some promo for it on itunes. Small banner or under new released. I don’t see FYE on the new singles category.
    TFM had great promo on itunes, and that’s why it was doing better, imo.

  316. Hi everyone, just thought I would give you my personal experience to add another perspective, since I’m probably not the only one out there like this.

    I liked what I saw of Daughtry, was gobsmacked when he was voted off and waited very impatiently for the opportunity to buy his CD. I discontinued watching AI immediately after Chris was out of the running. Didn’t know about the tour, didn’t know about singles and certainly didn’t follow his career on-line. But, the minute the CD hit the shelves, I was there! This was bought sight unseen, as it were, I had not heard one note of what was on the album. I just thought that I wanted to check out the album of someone who had interested me on the show.

    Isn’t it possible that there are other people waiting to simply go buy Adam’s Cd when it is available?

  317. Can’t people complete the album on itunes without it being more expensive?

    Not when people prefer the hard copy of the album (almost 70% of the market), but they can at itunes. I also think that this maybe worse for singles that are released closer to the album release. You dont have to wait too much. The more you have to wait, the bigger incentive to buy the single.

  318. For every fan who decides to wait for the album there will be another who bulk-buys the single. Nothing’s different about that this year than in the past seven. It all comes out in the wash, and neither type of buying behavior could possibly impact sales enough to account for the delta we’re seeing between this year’s crop and previous seasons.

    At this point it seems fairly definitive that Adam’s core fanbase is weaker than the noise would suggest. Post-finale sales of Idol tracks, No Boundaries, Want, TfM, and now FYE have all sold well short of initial expectations. Radio has thus far been indifferent. But the most important question continues to be whether 19/RCA can convert the casual and non-Idol fans into consumers.

    Right now they may have dug themselves a bit of a hole by miscalculating the buzz. But I agree with Kirsten that this kind of thing happens all the time, and the label simply has to roll-up their sleeves and adjust the strategy. All the tent-poles are in place (AMA, Letterman, the morning show rounds etc.) – I think they just need to lay a slightly stronger foundation with radio in the next two weeks to ensure the kind of sustained exposure that he’ll need to really push this album.

  319. Interesting question as to why RCA/19 decided to sell FYE thru AO. Of course there is the strong possibility of itunes taking some of the profit, but I had a couple of other thoughts. AO didn’t seem to be that active until the song went up on the front page for download. So one reason could be to steer fans to his website. And another thought, is that RCA/19 might possibly be able to track where the purchases are coming from. Can international fans purchase the single from AO? And just how big is his loyal fan base? Random thoughts…

  320. What I think is that it’s not a money problem. I mean, of course money IS a problem, just like it is every year, and especially last year. But if people are willing to pre-order an album that they have never heard and are saving money to buy an album they haven’t heard, the problem doesn’t seem to be money.

    I agree. Maybe the inevitable conclusion is that Adam’s connected-every-hour-of-the-day fanbase is just vocal but not necessarily as large as we think. Which, of course, says nothing about his non-connected, but still invested fanbase that may just not be as aware that he’s got a single out there because they’re not hearing it on the radio.

    That said, I think that if RCA was caught flat-footed on the radio play front, this is hardly the end of the world. RCA is, I’m sure, working their contacts at radio stations as we speak and we’ll be getting more adds next week. It’s only the first week, and there’s lots of time and room for the single to take off. The 19/RCA peeps for sure have primed the pump so that Adam is getting buzz outside of the typical Idol strongholds in the media.

  321. Ca

    n international fans purchase the single from AO?

    No.
    At least not yet. For example, if you go to the _Finnish AO site, it says that FYE will be available there on Nov. 9.

  322. Chicagolaw
    11/06/2009 at 5:39 pm

    Seriously, does anyone have any theory as to why RCA/19 decided to sell FYE through the website, like a week before iTunes put it up? Obviously they had to know that this would pretty much kill any chance of a ‘splashy’  opening on the iTunes chart. Maybe RCA isn’t concerned with this, and it is only Idol fans who watch this stuff? Still isn’t getting on the front page great, free advertising?

    My take on all this is….a little bit of everyone…. I think they felt Adam does have a strong fan base….but because of the AMA’s they decide to promote the song to people outside the fan base not until the 22nd of Nov. I think Sony RCA figured they knew the beginning sales would be fan base generated and they wanted to profit from it the most know they were not really going to go full promo for the song until after the AMA…Bottom line it is about the money and I think this make sense. After the AMA he will be able to make Radio rounds….Also I think the reason he is not making radio round has to do with the AMA but not the reason people think. He has nothing to do with hearing the song first on the AMA…it has to do with Adam is going to be spending all his time preparing for the show. He will not have time for promotion prior. This opportunity came up and if it were me I would pretty much go this route. Adam voice is amazing but couple that with seeing him live……HOT For Our Entertainment. . So I think it is a mixture of what others here have said. IMHO

  323. I can tell you fans from other seasons have said the same thing. Every year there’s the ‘I won’t buy the single but I’ll buy the album’ . So, no, nothing new here

    So true. I didn’t follow Archie’s pre-orders last year but RCA HAD to have an idea about DC’s album sales due to his huge pre-orders, and after seeing how he made that Amazon list of the highest pre-orders to date he had to have a lot. He sold a million downloads of TOML before the album even dropped, LO sold over 100k its first week while the album was in the Top 10-20 on Amazon. Some people will buy both. If you want the single but still plan to buy the album, just use the “complete my album” feature. I don’t see what the problem is there. And I still don’t buy the economy excuse when single sales are at an all time high.

    You can definitely complete the album when you are first buying one song from an album but what about when the song is sold as a ‘single’ ? Is it somehow separate from the album?

    In my experience I’ve bought plenty of singles before the album went up for sale and you can still do the “complete” feature.

  324. After the AMA he will be able to make Radio rounds’ ¦.Also I think the reason he is not making radio round has to do with the AMA but not the reason people think. He has nothing to do with hearing the song first on the AMA’ ¦it has to do with Adam is going to be spending all his time preparing for the show. He will not have time for promotion prior.

    Again, he can and should be making the radio rounds before the AMAs. Yes, the AMAs prep is probably taking up a lot of time, and all the 2012 nonsense has been taking up the rest. But the 2012 stuff should NOT take precedence over his promoting his actual single. And yes, also away that getting a band together is also happening and rehearsing with them. But doing a radio interview doesn’t take that much time. It takes little time to do and prep for, and several of them can be done in a week, with no live performance needed, so no worries about the AMA live performance exclusive. And again, they aren’t that long, they don’t take much to do. Adam calls in, chats with the DJs, they ask inane questions, he tries to be as charming as possible, 2 minutes later, call is over, they play the song.

    Oh and most imortantly, RCA needs to start trying to apply those industry muscle to get the single some airplay. In other words, they need to do their job.

  325. And another thought, is that RCA/19 might possibly be able to track where the purchases are coming from. Can international fans purchase the single from AO? And just how big is his loyal fan base? Random thoughts’ ¦

    I totally agree with Kirsten, as far as where RCA is in the US, but I also totally agree with part of this.

    I really think that RCA sees that Adam has a better shot internationally than in the US. Especially long term. Look at the release of Time for Miracles in Europe before the US, and the song snippets being on Amazon UK. I bet they do want to gauge his international fanbase to see how much they would need to put into promoting him. Releasing on his official website – if the international fans could purchase – would give them that data.

  326. @Kirsten
    This might not be popular, but I think they got caught flat-footed. I think they thought Adam had a stronger fan base and they didn’t need to do anything to get big opening sales.

    How do we know what the opening sales are? Can’t judge by iTunes. Not only has it been screwy for the past couple of days, the single was actually being sold on AO website and Sony for the first 5 or so days.

    So how does anyone know what the opening sales are? Will we find out?

  327. But doing a radio interview doesn’t take that much time. It takes little time to do and prep for, and several of them can be done in a week, with no live performance needed, so no worries about the AMA live performance exclusive.

    I totally disagree with you truthiness. To do something well, you have to focus and concentrate, it is not so easy switching gears when you have a thousand things to attend to at once. I also think Adams team was under time constraints to present their artistic idea to the AMA orgsanizer. They have to decide what stuff they need, what kind of lightning etc. Radio can wait. I don’t really see what the rush is? He will do the promo later. It’s not a now or never situation.

  328. Can’t edit last post, but also:

    Adam’s fanbase put T4M in the Top 10 within what, 24 hours? That same fanbase would have put FYE at the same spot more than likely but for the difference in the way it was sold this time.

  329. ladymadonna
    11/06/2009 at 6:13 pm
    Right now they may have dug themselves a bit of a hole by miscalculating the buzz. But I agree with Kirsten that this kind of thing happens all the time, and the label simply has to roll-up their sleeves and adjust the strategy. All the tent-poles are in place (AMA, Letterman, the morning show rounds etc.) ‘“ I think they just need to lay a slightly stronger foundation with radio in the next two weeks to ensure the kind of sustained exposure that he’ll need to really push this album.

    I do agree with this, but I also think they need to act fairly quickly. Publicity is a two headed monster. If FYE lives up to expectations, that will continue to build on the strong press momentum Adam already has going for him. But if sales don’t live up to the hype that’s been built up around this guy, I think we could see RCA with same damage control issues on it’s hands. I’m not sure they have the luxury of a “slow build” with Adam’s sales.

  330. Can international fans purchase the single from AO?

    This is right from the AO home page:

    We’re also working hard to make the Collector’s Edition available in as many countries as possible. Stay tuned for updates!

  331. dhunken
    11/06/2009 at 6:43 pm

    Don’t know if this was posted: if it was I am sorry for doing it again.

    http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-ca-adam-lambert8-2009nov08,0,3364352.story

    I loved that article, it says so much. I really believe RCA/SONY is playing a waiting game until after the AMA’s. I think they want to see what is going on internationally and in the US sales. They have the sales info already from AO, so they know more that we do right now. They will step in and step up promotion soon. I think they need to concentrate on the AMA live performance. Adam is in the entertainment news every day and, for now, I think that is what they want. We will see more after AMA and international sales figures come in. They know the sales figures already, maybe there is nothing to worry about?!

  332. girlygirl
    11/06/2009 at 10:06 am
    Bringing this over from yesterday’s headline thread’ ¦

    Kris, David Cook and Chris Daughtry all made People Magazine’s Sexiest Man issue. Yay for them (esp. Kris!) But why no Ada?

    http://www.people.com/people/package/video/0,,20315920_20316395,00.html

    Adam may be on the list — there are not 100 men in the promo video. And Adam was on People’s 10 Sexiest Bachelor list.

  333. I also think Adams team was under time constraints to present their artistic idea to the AMA orgsanizer. They have to decide what stuff they need, what kind of lightning etc. Radio can wait. I don’t really see what the rush is? He will do the promo later. It’s not a now or never situation.

    Those kinds of things don’t consume all of your work day. It’s one performance, not an entire show. So yes, Adam can and does have time to do other stuff. Hence all the promotional stuff he’s been doing for 2012, which he can and should be spending supporting is single.

    Because I agree with this

    I do agree with this, but I also think they need to act fairly quickly. Publicity is a two headed monster. If FYE lives up to expectations, that will continue to build on the strong press momentum Adam already has going for him. But if sales don’t live up to the hype that’s been built up around this guy, I think we could see RCA with same damage control issues on it’s hands. I’m not sure they have the luxury of a ‘slow build’  with Adam’s sales.

    That’s the rush. There actually is a time crunch and NOW is the time to optimize all the publicity that Adam has had, and will have and work harder, evidently is needed, to translate that into actual sales of singles and albums. Otherwise it becomes empty hype, the spiral of publicity becomes negative, which then leads to less publicity available to one, which can lead to less exposure and therefore less sales. The album date is too close at hand to be dicking around just hoping that things will get better somehow in terms of getting Adam’s name to a firmer start in terms of selling music. Bottomline and let’s be really honest here, he hasn’t been as strong as last year, and more importantly putting aside comparisons, he isn’t as strong as he needs to be just for him, going forward. He’s too mushy right now to not do with some more solid buttressing of his selling.

    Adam has a window and he needs to start capitalizing on it, sooner than later, and RCA needs to start doing this. I think they miscalculated, for whatever reason, or any number of issues, but okay, they did. Time to roll up the sleeves, start treating Adam less like an already made star, and more like what he is, an up and coming artist who has potential, but needs some help to achieve it.

  334. So Brian has the cumulative track loadings for this years Idols:

    Kris Allen: 1.1 million
    Adam Lambert: 923,000
    Allison Iraheta: 31,000

    These are cumulative for the all the downloads I would assume including the season but I don’t know that for a fact. Brian just calls them cumulative track loadings.This could also just be the cumulative from the finale and through the summer during the tour.

  335. I just saw a tv commericial for David Cook’s concert, which is coming up in about two weeks here (first commercial I’ve seen!!). It was great – they talked over the LO video – BUT near the end of the commercial, they played Lie.

    Don’t know if that means anything – maybe whoever put together the commercial likes Lie – but thought that was interesting.

    And, between the commercial, hearing the local radio stations advertising it, and seeing lots of twitters today from local radio stations and the newspaper about the concert, I’m getting really antsy for it to GET HERE ALREADY.

  336. Kris Allen: 1.1 million
    Adam Lambert: 923,000
    Allison Iraheta: 31,000

    These are cumulative for the all the downloads I would assume including the season but I don’t know that for a fact. Brian just calls them cumulative track loadings.

    Wait, does this include downloads of their non-Idol work? I mean, if it’s cumulative for them as just artists, than will it be everytthing sold by them thus far?

    Anyhew, ha! It would be totally funny and cool if Kris indeed had the most downloads and there you go. He won and he had the most sales for the entire season overall.

    So he really IS the winner and good for him. And oh yes, did I mention how much that would amuse me? :)

  337. It’s hard to tell from the way he wrote it, since he apparently felt it was more important to include duet numbers than to provide proper context for his totals (sigh, I miss Ken Barnes), but I would assume those were for the Idol tracks, including NB sales.

  338. I never followed an Idol after the AI, never really paid much attention until now.. although I did notice David Cook last year, the only way I knew there was any type of music out was if I heard it on the Radio.

  339. I love the video. It’s really, seriously, legitimately amazing for an idol or non-idol artist. This song is going to be a big hit.

    Kid has impeccable taste. Whatcha gonna do?

  340. Anyhew, ha! It would be totally funny and cool if Kris indeed had the most downloads and there you go. That’s why he won. He had the most sales for the entire season overall.

    We will never know who actually has sold the most since we don’t have download sales until after the AI season was over. People were buying songs throughout the whole show. Those totals aren’t included.

  341. “These are cumulative for the all the downloads I would assume including the season but I don’t know that for a fact. Brian just calls them cumulative track loadings. ”

    I would assume these would be the “cumulative” totals for during the show as well. The download numbers since the Finale are available in the public domain; he wouldn’t have needed someone on the inside from Soundscan to give him this information. I think Brian just dropped a bombshell and is heading out for the weekend. Why else would he tell readers to “make of it what you will” and then tell everyone to have a good weekend. He’s probably smirking right now at the uproar that’s about to happen.

  342. Though if we’re talking fanbases, I am making peace with the idea that Adam does not have as large a one as the Davids last year (though I’ll admit that still boggles the mind ‘“ sorry can’t help it). But he IS incredibly polarizing (unlike the Davids last year), and has been since day 1. That’s just the way it is ‘“ and that, in effect, is part of why he has also gotten so much more media buzz than anyone else ‘“ you love him, you hate him, you want to talk about him.

    But bottom line is all three of these guys are INSANELY talented, and deserve to be doing really well for many years to come.

    It doesn’t boggle my mind at all, but then I’m biased (I feel that Cookie is the most talented and likable male to ever come out of AI). I love Archie and Adam also, but I think success in their genre of music (pop) is more contingent upon killer singles – Crush was a monster, but the jury is still out on FYE. It explains why Archie’s sucky (IMO) second single went nowhere.

    Cook’s current genre (AC/HAC “rock”) is more artist-based than song-based, I think. I mean, I actually liked LO, but even Cook couldn’t save CBTM, and yet it still sold, and more importantly, it still sold albums. I think that “rock”, and even “light rock”, fans are more inclined to buy albums, rather than singles, and are a more loyal fanbase in general. Pop fans are younger and more fickle, I suspect.

    Bottomline, Adam needs to release FANTASTIC singles.

  343. I agree Eileen. He did that on Friday afternoon so that he won’t be “reachable” for two days.

  344. The download numbers since the Finale are available in the public domain; he wouldn’t have needed someone on the inside from Soundscan to give him this information.

    Well, sure he would, once they fell off the digital downloads chart, which happened a week or two after the finale. Those AI8 tracks kept selling through the summer, but we had no visibility into the numbers because they were off-chart. I asked Brian to clarify so we’ll see what he says (believe me, I would love to get an idea of in-season sales). But I have a feeling these are only totals from the point that iTunes started reporting to Soundscan after the finale.

  345. Yep, they make sense to me, especially if they count No Boundaries downloads.

  346. You are, Squirrely. However, anytime ANY idol from ANY season is reported on in comparison to ANY other idol from ANY other season, there is always an uproar of some kind.

  347. Why would there be an uproar ‘“ I’m fine with the numbers?

    Because there seemed to be a line that Adam sold more during the show than Kris did and that some have seemed to tout that. These numbers seem to belie that. Of course if it’s the entire AI numbers, it will include NoBo as the coronation single, and Kris did sell a lot of those, and Adam did not. Which well, it wasn’t a coronation song for Adam, seeing as he didn’t win, and wasn’t advertised as such (or at all).

    But still I think that is why the presumtion of uproar.

    I don’t find it anything other than amusing and going back to the fact that I presume Kris to be the winner and expectations for him go from there.

  348. I don’t see how these download totals are definitive. Aren’t they from only the demographic of on-line users?

  349. “Cumulative track loadings” – not sure what that means. Anyone know?

  350. The numbers look good to me. Wow, Kris and Adam were really close! If the I-Tunes numbers that were “mistakenly” released during the show are accurate, we know Adam led at that time. It’s no surprise to me that the winner would gain additional sales once the show was over on “No Boundaries.” Although it’s universally not many peoples’ favorite, it was only really marketed for Kris, the winner, so it really only sold for him. Makes sense to me.

  351. I would love to know the download numbers from AI7 and AI6. Anyone have those?

  352. Yes ‘“ my thoughts are ‘“ how is all the buzz around Adam NOT connecting with bigger music success? The guy is an AMAZING vocalist, so it’s not like he has no musical talent. He’s gotten tons of buzz, and for a reason at that. I know people who mention that they keep hearing about him, even though they never followed him, or even AI. So imo there is something not right if that kind of buzz isn’t able to connect to getting him more sales, radio play, etc.

    I think part of the problem is that they let Adam build a media personality so long without there has been music to connect with it.
    If you look at success stories like Lady Gaga or Katy Perry, they had the music out first and their personalities than has been marketed to fit to this music.
    With Adam we have a media personality and now they bring in the music, but this has to come together in the people’s minds and that could take time.

  353. Cumulative track loadings = total # of downloads from whatever songs were available from that artist — I guess. So every song from the show that Kris, Adam, Allison etc. performed that then was downloadable off iTunes or other sites that Nielsen Soundscan tracks.

    That’s my guess anyway. Not sure if these include pre- or post-Idol stuff (LLWD, TFM, Want, etc) that might have been downloadable

  354. Cute picture of Daniel and Kris hanging out at the beach (in Santa Barbara — I think)

    DA4real
    # http://twitpic.com/oji8y – Kickin’ it with the bro on the beach, like old times!26 minutes ago from TwitPic

  355. Cumulative track loadings = total # of downloads from whatever songs were available from that artist ‘” I guess. So every song from the show that Kris, Adam, Allison etc. performed that then was downloadable off iTunes or other sites that Nielsen Soundscan tracks.

    That’s my guess anyway. Not sure if these include pre- or post-Idol stuff (LLWD, TFM, Want, etc) that might have been downloadable

    Exactly my question. Is this post idol as well and everything to this date? In which case, okay, I’d still expect Kris to have sold more and good for him.

  356. I’m not surprised by the numbers. Kris had one more song than Adam, the coronation single. No Boundaries sold about 295,000 per the last numbers we saw and he did win the show. I know that in the first few weeks after the show, Kris sold about 500,000 of Heartless/No Boundaries combined 247,000 for Heartless and 260,000 for No Boundaries as of the middle of June. Adam during that time sold 215,000 of Mad World. Oh and he sold about 75,000 of No Boundaries I guess from the latest numbers I could find.

    Great showing by Kris! My expectations for his sales just got even higher.

  357. This is my favorite MTV quote:

    said ‘Hi,’ but by the time I said ‘Hi,’ he was already walking past, and I was walking this way, and it was too late to accost him because he had already gone by,’  the actresses laughed. ‘Which is probably a good thing.’ 

    Where was this from? *confused*

  358. During the AI season, I was interested only in Adam’s music videos. How are they counted?

  359. boredinschool
    11/06/2009 at 7:38 pm
    This is my favorite MTV quote:

    said ‘Hi,’ but by the time I said ‘Hi,’ he was already walking past, and I was walking this way, and it was too late to accost him because he had already gone by,’  the actresses laughed. ‘Which is probably a good thing.’ 

    Where was this from? *confused*

    It was from the MTV interview with Amanda Peet and John Cusack about Adam singing the 2012 theme song. Amanda really liked Adam. John Cusack didn’t know who he was.. or what Idol was either..LOL

  360. those download numbers are interesting – rather calls into question the accepted wisdom that Kris “won by a landslide” when the numbers were so close.

  361. I totally disagree with you truthiness. To do something well, you have to focus and concentrate, it is not so easy switching gears when you have a thousand things to attend to at once. I also think Adams team was under time constraints to present their artistic idea to the AMA orgsanizer. They have to decide what stuff they need, what kind of lightning etc. Radio can wait. I don’t really see what the rush is? He will do the promo later. It’s not a now or never situation

    I disagree. Adam does not have the luxury of having time to switch gears from rehearsing/getting read y for the AMAs and doing radio interviews. If he’s gonna be a big time artist he needs to be able to turn it on on a dime. This is what all big time artists need to be able to do. And I agree it’s not a do or die situation, but it’s stupid not to capitalize on the buzz while the buzz is focused on you. These 15 minutes aren’t going to extend into years and years in the music biz without a huge assist of working as hard as possible to do the promo regardless of what else you’re doing. I’m not saying Adam is not a hard worker (he obviously is), but it’s not a time to excuse him or his management team for not working ALL the angles right now.

    And frankly, I don’t think 19 or RCA would decide that he is not ready right now to do interviews or that he’s just too exhausted from rehearsals. Those guys are not exactly known for coddling their artists so they have enough time to rest. They will just schedule him, wake him when it’s time, and that’s that. I recall last year the number of interviews Cook did in the run-up to his album and he was waking up at 4am/5am to do radio interviews on the East Coast. And he had an SNL debut to prepare for much, much earlier than Adam. I realize he didn’t have dancers and other performance art type set pieces or whatever Adam has planned, but he had 3 weeks less time to prepare for his TV post-Idol debut, yet they had him nonstop on radio interviews all throughout October. And that was only the interviews that fans could find. I bet a lot more were missed. So yeah, RCA/19’s strategy for Adam re radio interviews/promo is a bit puzzling right now.

    Hopefully, they’re working on setting up tons of interviews for Adam real soon.

    By the way, have we heard yet whether Adam, Allison or Kris will be doing their own (as opposed to shared) Walmart Soundchecks or AOL Sessions? I recall that Cook recorded the AOL Sessions and Walmart Soundcheck BEFORE SNL (Nov 1, IIRC), though they were released after his album dropped, so he had those to rehearse for as well.

  362. I’m not surprised by the numbers. Kris had one more song than Adam, the coronation single. No Boundaries sold about 295,000 per the last numbers we saw and he did win the show. I know that in the first few weeks after the show, Kris sold about 500,000 of Heartless/No Boundaries combined 247,000 for Heartless and 260,000 for No Boundaries as of the middle of June. Adam during that time sold 215,000 of Mad World. Oh and he sold about 75,000 of No Boundaries I guess from the latest numbers I could find.

    So you’re saying per quoted numbers after the finale Kris sold approximately 500k of his most popular singles plus whatever other singles charted during the finale time and were originally reported, so let’s add another 200K. If that’s correct, then the numbers quoted by Brian are cumulative through the season since Kris is quoted as sold 1.1 Million.

    I think we can figure this out by simple addition of the numbers that we had until the AI8 people’s singles stopped charting. But at this point, it seems that the numbers are cumulative and include the season, unless Kris sold more than 500k of No Boundries/Heartless initially.

  363. Those numbers have to be “during the season” numbers as well because we were able to track sales after the finale and neither sold anywhere near that amount.

  364. Keel

    Kris is doing an AOL Session in NYC in December. His official website is even running a contest for one fan to win a trip to go see him at this session.

  365. those download numbers are interesting ‘“ rather calls into question the accepted wisdom that Kris ‘won by a landslide’  when the numbers were so close.

    Not really. Votes are free, paying for a song is something else. I actually thought the “accepted” wisdom is that Adam outsold the rest of the field by a mile, though I never bought into it especially once we were able to directly compare the coronation song sales for both.

    It would really, really help if we could get a better definition for what these numbers count and what they don’t. Last year both the Davids sold about the amounts being shown for Kris and Adam, in one week, but I think sales overall were much higher for S7 than S8 so I don’t feel comfortable saying that these S8 numbers were from Finale on…but they also seem low to include the entire season of sales. *shrug*

  366. Not really. Votes are free, paying for a song is something else.

    Yeah, in my limited Idolsphere :) … my mom and sister are Idol addicts during the season, vote consistently every week… and have yet to buy a darn thing after Idol except moms picked up Cookie’s album after coming to a show with me (though she really loves Andy, hee)… but they vote, vote, vote, vote like crazy and 99% of the time they aren’t buying after the show ends.

  367. Adam may be on the list ‘” there are not 100 men in the promo video. And Adam was on People’s 10 Sexiest Bachelor list.

    The title of the video says “100 Sexy Men in One Minute”.

    I cannot image how they left Adam off . The composers of the list certianly have different taste than I . Daughtry would not have been anywhere near my list!

  368. I’m not surprised by the numbers. Kris had one more song than Adam, the coronation single. No Boundaries sold about 295,000 per the last numbers we saw and he did win the show. I know that in the first few weeks after the show, Kris sold about 500,000 of Heartless/No Boundaries combined 247,000 for Heartless and 260,000 for No Boundaries as of the middle of June. Adam during that time sold 215,000 of Mad World. Oh and he sold about 75,000 of No Boundaries I guess from the latest numbers I could find.

    Great showing by Kris! My expectations for his sales just got even higher.

    Heartless sold that well? Wasn’t paying attention, but dayum! and good for Kris. And yes, he won, had the most sales of the seasons, my expectations are accordingly.

    These 15 minutes aren’t going to extend into years and years in the music biz without a huge assist of working as hard as possible to do the promo regardless of what else you’re doing. I’m not saying Adam is not a hard worker (he obviously is), but it’s not a time to excuse him or his management team for not working ALL the angles right now.

    And frankly, I don’t think 19 or RCA would decide that he is not ready right now to do interviews or that he’s just too exhausted from rehearsals. Those guys are not exactly known for coddling their artists so they have enough time to rest. They will just schedule him, wake him when it’s time, and that’s that.
    ….

    So yeah, RCA/19’s strategy for Adam re radio interviews/promo is a bit puzzling right now.

    You say puzzling, I say stupid, tomato, tomahtoe, same thing really. Adam is not some delicate flower who doesn’t know how to work hard and that it takes work to get ahead in the music biz. I’m sure if RCA sets up with interviews, and as many as they think are good, he’ll do them. He’s neither a moron, nor a slacker. But he’s also not in charge. So his management company and RCA need to point him and go.

  369. As a music lover who has sadly grown detached to current music, I recall a young & up-and-coming artist named Michael Jackson, who, at one particular time, was all the buzz in the media and music industry. I did not own any of his music at that time, although I was intrigued. Saw him on Motown 25th Anniversary Special on TV. Like many, it was history.

    I know that I will get to enjoy Adam’s music for many years to come, and I have much faith in him. Like Michael, IMHO, he will have his moment. History, for lack of a better phrase, does and will repeat itself. And I believe that Adam will surprise us; like he has always promised.

  370. Here is Wikipedia’s list of digital songs that charted for Kris (not including NoBo, which we know went to #1 on iTunes)

    Digital singles

    These songs all charted from legal digital downloads.

    CHART POSITION
    U.S. U.S. Pop CAN
    “Heartless” 16 29 39
    “Ain’t No Sunshine” 37 ‘” 68
    “Apologize” 66 ‘” ‘”
    “Falling Slowly” 94 ‘” ‘”
    “What’s Going On” 107 ‘” ‘”
    “To Make You Feel My Love” 113 ‘” ‘”

    Here is the same chart for Adam

    “Mad World” 19 30 10
    “A Change Is Gonna Come” 56 ‘” 59
    “One” 82 ‘” 84
    “Cryin'” 102 ‘” 75
    “Slow Ride” (with Allison Iraheta) 105 ‘” ‘”
    “The Tracks of My Tears” 117 ‘” ‘”
    “Feeling Good” 121 ‘” ‘”

  371. Ok the charts came out all wonky. But reading L to R, the 3 numbers are peak chart position on U.S. (overall), U.S. (pop) and Canadian charts

    As you can see, Kris had 2 in the Top 50 of the Digital singles charts (3 if include NoBo) while Adam had 1

  372. Like Michael, IMHO, he [Adam] will have his moment. History, for lack of a better phrase, does and will repeat itself.

    I can understand your enthusiasm for Adam. When his full songs are released, I may buy one or more and I’m also curious to see his AMA performance.

    I finally saw This Is It today (really good) and so Michael J. has been on my mind. Michael Jackson was an uncommonly gifted songwriter, choreographer, dancer, performer, and singer. Adam is talented but he is not the next Michael Jackson.

  373. CindyM, yeah, I am Cindi. I am with you, I am not worried, Adam is going to be FINE! This time tomorrow I think there will be smiles galore. What do ya think?

  374. cayman
    11/06/2009 at 8:24 pm
    CindyM, yeah, I am Cindi. I am with you, I am not worried, Adam is going to be FINE! This time tomorrow I think there will be smiles galore. What do ya think?

    I’m always smiling when it comes to Adam. He hasn’t disappointed me yet.

    We won’t know sales figures for Adam for a while. We can’t even count on core fan base numbers because AO gave the single away for free if you bought the deluxe album. I’m just enjoying the hell out of the single and hope he sells enough to be able to make more music for me to enjoy. I think he has some high profile promo coming up and that should help. I also think he’ll start radio promo soon, although it doesn’t seem to have helped Kris’s sales much. But it has helped spins, which is important in getting Adam’s name out there.

  375. I’m not surprised by the numbers. Kris had one more song than Adam, the coronation single. No Boundaries sold about 295,000 per the last numbers we saw and he did win the show.

    I think I don’t understand what you are saying. Kris didn’t have one more song than Adam. They had the exact same number of songs. There were two versions of “No Boundaries” released. Adam’s and Kris’s. They both sang the same number of songs on the show since they both made it to the finale.

  376. At the end of the day, the revenue will be equal to the product’s market value. Promotion strategy only changes the path to the final goal. As long as 19 believes $1 spending on Adam will generate $1.1 revenue, they will keep investing on Adam. There is no loss for either 19 or Adam. The worries here come from nowhere but fans expectation that is drawn from very very rough analyses.

    As a non expert in music industry, I only do those analyses for fun. If it starts causing panic, I’ll just stop. :)

  377. I think I don’t understand what you are saying. Kris didn’t have one more song than Adam. They had the exact same number of songs. There were two versions of ‘No Boundaries’  released. Adam’s and Kris’s. They both sang the same number of songs on the show since they both made it to the finale.

    Perhaps I didn’t say it as artfully as I should have. I’m saying that Adam’s “No Boundaries” wasn’t promoted, he never sang it anywhere after the finale and it wasn’t “his” coronation single. He certainly didn’t present it to the public as his song nor was it advertised that way. Better?

  378. I know that I will get to enjoy Adam’s music for many years to come, and I have much faith in him. Like Michael, IMHO, he will have his moment. History, for lack of a better phrase, does and will repeat itself.

    Michael Jackson sold about 500 million albums worldwide, won 13 Grammy awards and has 17 #1 hits. I’d be curious to see how long it would take Adam to accomplish that.

  379. I’m just enjoying the hell out of the single and hope he sells enough to be able to make more music for me to enjoy.

    Yep that would be me too… as long as I get my music from Adam I am happy.. snicker…selfish eh!

  380. Trina
    11/06/2009 at 8:36 pm
    I know that I will get to enjoy Adam’s music for many years to come, and I have much faith in him. Like Michael, IMHO, he will have his moment. History, for lack of a better phrase, does and will repeat itself.

    Michael Jackson sold about 500 million albums worldwide, won 13 Grammy awards and has 17 #1 hits. I’d be curious to see how long it would take Adam to accomplish that.

    I really don’t think this will ever be achieved again. Michael was one-of-a-kind.

  381. Michael Jackson sold about 500 million albums worldwide, won 13 Grammy awards and has 17 #1 hits. I’d be curious to see how long it would take Adam to accomplish that.

    hmmmmmmmmmmm how many songs are on FYE… ROTFL

  382. For this week’s Random Friday Memo, I picked up a few bonus numbers from the Nielsen SoundScan folks that I figured you might enjoy: the cumulative track downloads for three of this past American Idol season’s top finishers. (If I had realized Danny Gokey would debut his single this week, I would’ve gotten his, too.)

    Kris Allen: 1.1 million
    Adam Lambert: 923,000
    Allison Iraheta: 31,000

    I don’t know that the tallies at this point have much value as anything other than a curiosity, but read into them what you will. BTW, the Adam Lambert/Allison Iraheta version of Slow Ride has 42,000 downloads, while the Kris Allen/Danny Gokey Renegade has sold 20,000 copies.

    Have a good weekend.

    As far as I can tell, iTunes never reported the download sales during the season to Neilsen SoundScan. The only people who have those numbers are iTunes, 19 and the artists (from their royalty statements.) If the during season numbers were in SoundScan, someone could have just subtracked to find the numbers.

    I do know that “cummulative track downloads” is usually defined as the total number of tracks downloaded and includes singles and video tracks. It is used to calculate TEA (track equivalant albums) TEA = the number of track sales divided by 10.

    My bet it this is post-Final downloads only. But my life is way too short to bother with trying to gather the data and add it up. Yes, I am trying to LLWD. LOL.

  383. “Michael Jackson was an uncommonly gifted songwriter, choreographer, dancer, performer, and singer. Adam is talented but he is not the next Michael Jackson.”

    I agree. They are two distinct artists. MJ’s crafts were honed and perfected after many years in the industry. You could feel the excitement and expectations for him years ago, and he did not disappoint. Adam is young. Like many young artists, be it in music or art, they will go through many periods and phases; some good, others not so good. They evolve. I am intrigued by Adam and am eager to see how all this develops. Somethings are just meant to be.

  384. itunes Canada tonite:

    Overall
    FYE 50
    TFM 142
    LLWD 199

    Pop Chart

    FYE 25
    TFM 53
    LLWD 86

    FYE was just added here yesterday.

  385. I do know that ‘cummulative track downloads’  is usually defined as the total number of tracks downloaded and included singles, album tracks counted singly, and video tracks. It is used to calculate TEA (track equivalant albums) TEA = the number of track sales divided by 10.

    Thanks Q3. I wonder if it would include Kris’s season pass sales in those numbers then. Oh well, Kris sold more, he won the show. Not surprised.

  386. But I have a feeling these are only totals from the point that iTunes started reporting to Soundscan after the finale.

    And I’m pretty sure it’s only total from after the finale. iTunes didn’t release the numbers during the seasons, so Soundscan can’t possibly know. Just as an exercise, here are some of the known sales; with the exception of LLWD, all the figures are from June or July.

    No Boundaries 276,000
    Heartless 286,000
    Ain’t No Sunshine 104,000
    Apologize 59,000
    Falling Slowly 38,000
    Live Like We’re Dying 83,000

    total 846,000

    That’s 200-300K lower than the rounded figure of 1.1 million. I think once you added up sales of all the other songs (perhaps 100-150K) and then take into account of further sales since those figures were released, the final figure is likely to be something like the figure Brian posted. It’s also very unlikely that Kris only sold 100-200K downloads during the entire season.

  387. cayman – this is just my opinion of course, but I think that there will be several countries where this will be the case. TPTB are not only looking at U.S. popularity (for any of the idols)

  388. Nice new little interview/article with Cookie popped up
    http://www.fresnobee.com/entertainment/story/1700336.html

    From his Q&A:
    Q.: How important is it to forge your own identity outside of ‘Idol?’  Do you think you’ve done a good job of it?

    A.: I think one of the things that makes ‘Idol’  work is that people tune in to see growth. They don’t want to see a finished product. Coming out of there, I wanted to continue to progress and have them come along with me. I always look to progress.

    So it’s not just fans who believe this is a winning route on idol, whether it’s an actual strategy or not.

  389. ^^ Well, That’s a smart Cookie.

    I haven’t been following S8 closely, but Brian’s cumulative figures seem far too low to account for the full season’s downloads + post season downloads. My guess is these would simply be the cumulative sales since the season ended. If I’m wrong and he somehow got the season numbers – I’m just curious if his source can get those figures for S7 too…
    ETA: Hazehel said it really well and provided the numbers to support. ITA.

    About Adam – The media hype certainly is at odds with the lackluster iTunes performance of FYE, but having the hype does make it more likely that sales will catch up at some point… Most probably when radio starts spinning and people have music to connect with a name they already know.

  390. Thanks Hazelhel, great information!! Clears things up a little for me, so I appreciate it alot!

  391. I don’t know…he gave the figures for the duet downloads which were during the AI season. I think these are totals for the entire season.

  392. I know I haven’t bought an Adam tune since the finale, except for TfM and FYE. I pre-ordered every video and song before the performance. I’m sure TPTB took that under account with who they signed.

    Am I getting a little nervous for Adam? Yep. But not internationally, I think they’ll be more accepting. My local djs had to make a joke about him being single again and maybe Clay had a shot. sigh…

  393. If Idol never reported the in season numbers, and these numbers came from Soundscan, then doesn’t it make sense that this is only post-season sales?

    Kirsten, am I off base here?

  394. My local djs had to make a joke about him being single again and maybe Clay had a shot. sigh’ ¦

    What thats really Funny… :-)

  395. Izzie2
    11/06/2009 at 9:03 pm
    I don’t know’ ¦he gave the figures for the duet downloads which were during the AI season. I think these are totals for the entire season.

    Not true. Per the Billboard Hot Digital Downloads chart on May 22nd, the following sales for the duets were reported:

    084 — Adam Lambert & Allison Iraheta, “Slow Ride” 21,742 999% 0 21,742

    148 — Kris Allen & Danny Gokey, “Renegade” 10,826 999% 0 10,826

    If you consider that this only includes singles, not the videos which are counted then the numbers for both Slow Ride and Renegade make sense to be after the finale.

  396. If Idol never reported the in season numbers, and these numbers came from Soundscan, then doesn’t it make sense that this is only post-season sales?

    Yes. These are just post-season sales. The numbers during the season were not reported to SoundScan (and SS is only interested in current sales). The RIAA could certify on those unreported numbers should they decide to report them to them.

  397. spring2009, I agree, I admire the way other countries go about life in general, wish my kids would have taken the opportunity to enjoy the study abroad programs that were available to them during college. I believe for instance Adam will florish in international communities who appreciate his creativity and free spirit way of life.

  398. Brian just posted a comment the figures are since the Finale. You’d think he would have been a little more clear if he’s going to toss around “cumulative” downloads. Or I guess we weren’t supposed to take him literally. LOL.

  399. Michael Jackson sold about 500 million albums worldwide, won 13 Grammy awards and has 17 #1 hits. I’d be curious to see how long it would take Adam to accomplish that.

    I really don’t think this will ever be achieved again. Michael was one-of-a-kind.

    He sure was

  400. Brian just posted a comment the figures are since the Finale. You’d think he would have been a little more clear if he’s going to toss around ‘cumulative’  downloads. Or I guess we weren’t supposed to take him literally. LOL.

    Ha. I guess he wanted to confuse people. The fact that these are sales after the finale makes a world of difference. lol

  401. Or I guess we weren’t supposed to take him literally. LOL.

    I suppose so, as well as other info from unofficial sources.

  402. I believe for instance Adam will florish in international communities who appreciate his creativity and free spirit way of life.

    However Adam does “internationally,” I don’t think we can draw the conclusion that he may not do as well in the U.S. — which we don’t even know yet — because “Americans” don’t appreciate creativity and a free spirit way of life. Creativity is in the eye of the beholder and “a free spirit way of life” is totally undefined. Are those code words for gay?

  403. Do the purchases made directly from the AO site count in these numbers?

  404. Apparently Mr. Cook did get himself more ink…

    http://twitpic.com/ok371

    A blue “14” on his arm. Whatever that may mean, heh. He has that skin to absolutely kill for… and he’s determined to ink the hell out of it :)

  405. David Cook has a new tattoo

    Boo. I want him to leave those arms alone. And it’s all about me, right?

  406. Ok I don’t usually like comparisons, but how do those figures from Brian compare with S7?

    In other news, David Cook got another tattoo (just as I feared;I hate when he has days off). dang. why cover those beautiful arms, that great skin?
    http://twitpic.com/ok371

  407. Apparently Mr. Cook did get himself more ink’ ¦

    http://twitpic.com/ok371

    Why?????

    Wouldn’t temporary tattoos be more fun and interesting, David?

    He has that skin to absolutely kill for’ ¦ and he’s
    determined to ink the hell out of it

    It seems so. I think I’ll blame Neal, David is such an impressionable young man. :)

  408. sidewalkstory
    11/06/2009 at 9:29 pm
    Do the purchases made directly from the AO site count in these numbers?

    I don’t think so, sidewalkstory. At least not yet, the sales week hasn’t ended yet for FYE, sales week ends on Sunday I believe.

  409. That twitpic of DC in concert? HOT!!! Love that stance. And I bet he does that sexy smirk, too.

  410. Anyone wanna wager a bet that he’s going to hop on Twitter as soon as the show is over, sit back and laugh at everyone trying to figure out what the hell the 14 means?

    Ok I don’t usually like comparisons, but how do those figures from Brian compare with S7?

    I believe DC sold in the 4 days after the finale (Thu-Sun) about 940,000 total downloads.

  411. David wants a sleeve. He has said it before and more than once, and that’s even in that yahoo profile picture.
    It will probably take time, but he’ll get there.

  412. Dammit. Someone take the ink away from Cook. I hate the way “sleeves” look on most people (Neal is pretty much the only exception).

    It’s his skin and all… But it’s such beautiful skin, shame to cover it. Bleh.

  413. Noooo not a sleeve. I just need to get over it.

    Hahaha, me too :) But I can’t help it! His skin is so purty!

  414. Hahaha, me too But I can’t help it! His skin is so purty!

    Yah sooo purty, porcelain-esqe. Im jealous, but I have typical teenage skin. Soooo

  415. Do the purchases made directly from the AO site count in these numbers?

    Probably the ones purchased on the weekend do. These would have been reported. Sony would want them counted.

    There are some funny exceptions though. Target reports numbers from Saturday to Saturday instead of the normal Sunday to Sunday. So, it’s possible there is an exception of some sort for Sony too.

    We should know what happened when we see the numbers on Wednesday if he had numbers for the previous week.

  416. Kirsten, you seem to be good with numbers. What the heck does “14” mean? 14 as in a tattoo of a big number 14.

  417. Kirsten, you seem to be good with numbers. What the heck does ’14’ ³ mean? 14 as in a tattoo of a big number 14.

    Maybe something big happened to him at age 14? ;)

  418. Ooh, interesting, looks like Andy did ‘Til I’m Blue at the David Cook show tonight… that’s a first on this tour, right fellow group hugging Cookie nerds? :)

  419. Please God, no sleeve for David. A couple of tattoos, okay, if necessary (I don’t like tats, and don’t get me started on Megan’s OR Carly Smithson’s), but that is it. And I am probably in the minority, but I don’t want Adam to get any more, either. Look how sexy he was with the vest and rolled up sleeves (circa summer 2009, Idol Tour)–see EW’s Must List, #1, for further proof)–I do not think he would have looked nearly as sexy with arms filled with tats.

    Why did David get the #14?

  420. Is he 26? 26 plus 14 equals 40. What does David want to achieve by age 40?

  421. There is a video of Andy singing TIB at a DC show from a few months ago I think.

  422. It’s a long shot, but IIRC it took DCTR 14 weeks to go Platinum (might have been 15. I need to check and I’m too lazy, it was either 14 or 15 though). Hey, it’s probably not it, but it’s a thought.
    Otherwise… I’m drawing a blank.

  423. Ok I don’t usually like comparisons, but how do those figures from Brian compare with S7?

    Other than the coronation song, the S7 tracks were all available for sale for less than one full sales week – they were not available for sale through the tour. During that time Cook sold a total of 1,181,039, including 399,311 copies of TOML. By November of last year, the Magic Rainbow itself had crossed the million-sold mark. Here are the totals for the other S7 finalists:

    David Archuleta: 323,000
    Jason Castro with 64,000
    Brooke White with 47,000
    Michael Johns with 40,000
    Carly Smithson with 33,000
    Syesha Mercado with 18,000
    Kristi Lee Cook with 10,000
    Chikezie with 5,000

  424. It’s a long shot, but IIRC it took DCTR 14 weeks to go Platinum (might have been 15.

    Nice guess, but nope. DCTR sold platinum in its 15th week of release. It was certified by the RIAA (based on units shipped) after 10 weeks.

  425. Nice guess, but nope. DCTR sold platinum in its 15th week of release.

    Oh well, that’s what I get for being too lazy to check facts rather than go on memory alone. I’m happy at least it was 15 and not, IDK, 22. Not completely senile yet!
    Eh, Well then I’m all out of ideas. Maybe this has something to do with It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia like the last one? Who knows.

  426. David wants a sleeve. He has said it before and more than once, and that’s even in that yahoo profile picture.
    It will probably take time, but he’ll get there.

    It’ll be ugly, just as that 14 is. Thankfully for me, there’s gonna come a time when I’ll stop “looking at him.” After all, I love Sting’s music and I rarely cast an eye on him.

  427. At least I can take comfort in the fact he can’t do anything to his lips.

  428. Andy has sung lead on “Make Me” on this tour, but this is the first time he’s sung “Til I’m Blue” on the Declaration Tour. Apparently, Andy’s Mom and maybe other family were in the audience. It is so generous for David Cook to share the spotlight with his bandmates like this.

  429. When he broke the Hot 100 record how many songs was it? It wasnt 14 right?

  430. Andy has sung lead on ‘Make Me’  on this tour, but this is the first time he’s sung ‘Til I’m Blue’  on the Declaration Tour. Apparently, Andy’s Mom and maybe other family were in the audience. It is so generous for David Cook to share the spotlight with his bandmates like this.

    I think I got Make Me and TIB confused. Sorry!

  431. When he broke the Hot 100 record how many songs was it? It wasnt 14 right?

    IDK. I remember 14, but I also remember 17 and 11. I think I’m too tired for the number game LOL.

  432. Pleassse Adam ……no tattoo sleeve…u r a beautiful man….and as my friend says “if the body was meant to be an art canvas, why does it hurt to get a tattoo”

  433. I don’t like sleeves but I like Cook’s tattoo. Plus at the rate he’s going (2 tats per year now?) he probably won’t make it to sleeves before he’s fourty…

    laugh at everyone trying to figure out what the hell the 14 means?

    14 songs on his non-bonus album (including KOTN)? 14 hours before the fake tattoo wears off? I’m laughing even more at the twitter angst and the people who think that his acting career is ruined! They should check out Angelinia Jolie’s tats. LOL.
    http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/spotlights/2008/angelina_tattoo.jpg

  434. When he broke the Hot 100 record how many songs was it? It wasnt 14 right?

    LOL That’s what I posted, but then I read he broke the record with 11. If it’s 11, you add, LO, CBTM and Permanent and that’s 14 in total

    his acting career is ruined!

    I don’t know what funnier, people talking about david’s acting career or the implication that actors don’t have tattoos..

  435. OHHH!!!!!
    http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003808894

    Season seven “American Idol” champion David Cook will set a record for debut entries on the Billboard Hot 100 and Hot Digital Songs tomorrow as 11 titles enter the former, while 14 songs jump on the download tally. The onslaught is led by a No. 3 Hot 100 start for his original recording “The Time of My Life,” which shifts 236,000 downloads to easily take the No. 1 spot on Hot Digital Songs.

    Could it be? But I would think the Hot 100 record is more impressive so why not get an 11? But 14 would be his current total of Hot 100 entries now I think? I want my life back geesh.

  436. 14 songs on his non-bonus album (including KOTN)? 14 hours before the fake tattoo wears off? I’m laughing even more at the twitter angst and the people who think that his acting career is ruined! They should check out Angelinia Jolie’s tats. LOL.
    http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/spotlights/2008/angelina_tattoo.jpg

    Ick! Hers are really ugly. The combination of the tattoos with the skinny body and the fat lips. Ugh.

    And just think what they’ll look like when she’s a wrinkled old bat. Heh.

  437. Season seven “American Idol” champion David Cook will set a record for debut entries on the Billboard Hot 100 and Hot Digital Songs tomorrow as 11 titles enter the former, while 14 songs jump on the download tally.

    OK, so he did have 14 songs on the Download chart, but 11 on the Hot 100. I give up, I’ll just wait until he tells us what it means.

    ETA: LOL Trina, I see you got to that quote before me. Yeah, I doubt that’s it.

  438. I give up, I’ll just wait until he tells us what it means.

    What if he never tells us! :0

  439. ^^ Let’s just pretend that’s not an option. :D

    He did tell us what the other tattoos meant, right? I doubt he’d choose this one to start being secretive about. We’ll see.

  440. Hmm. He did hold the digital downloads record with 14 tracks in one week, but Michael Jackson broke that one this summer. The Hot 100 record of 11 still stands. But yes, 14 would be his current total number of Hot 100 hits – the 11 post-Idol tracks, plus LO, CBTM, and Permanent. (BTW those of you remembering 17 are also correct – that’s the total number of tracks that charted at all after the finale, including 6 on the Bubbling Under Hot 100 chart).

    But yeah…I’m with Jolene and will just wait for him to tell us.

  441. Back from RL and the panic about Adam’s career is temporarily over? urhhh

  442. He did tell us what the other tattoos meant, right? I doubt he’d choose this one to start being secretive about. We’ll see.

    Did he tell us what the last one was, the eagle and whatever? Or did people sleuth it out? He IS a big tease, after all! (I’m sure he’ll find all the twitter angst… absurd. Heh).

  443. Did he tell us what the last one was, the eagle and whatever? Or did people sleuth it out? He IS a big tease, after all! (I’m sure he’ll find all the twitter angst’ ¦ absurd. Heh).

    Yah what is the eagle one for? I never heard. Ughh I have a cold and feel horrible.

  444. ah what is the eagle one for? I never heard.

    Something to do with It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia (?). I think Neal and DC got the same one, right? I was totally out of the loop on that, because I HATE that tattoo and wanted to ignore its existence, but I did pick up those tidbits.

  445. Kirsten, you seem to be good with numbers. What the heck does ’14’ ³ mean? 14 as in a tattoo of a big number 14.

    I cannot begin to understand fugly tattoos like that. There are monks in the Tibet who have been studying such things for centuries, and they still haven’t got a clue.

    Perhaps he is a fan of Lost, but got confused as to what the numbers really are? 14 15 16? What’s the difference?

  446. the big rock/flag/eagle tattoo is a reference to a joke in Cookie’s fav tv show “It’s always sunny in Phil” and it matches one Neal has

  447. It reminds me of the little sticker an inspector puts on a product made in a factory: You know, “A-okay!” signed, Inspector 14!

    the big rock/flag/eagle tattoo is a reference to a joke in Cookie’s fav tv show ‘It’s always sunny in Phil’  and it matches one Neal has

    All that makes me think of is how … years after a favorite show is off the air, one moves on and you wonder why you were so engrossed with it in the first place. Tattoos should have a little more meaning than that, you’d think.

  448. Jolene the only thing I knew was that Neal has it too. Or least I think he does. But ASIP really?I thought all his tattoos were meaningful. Ha

  449. Wasn’t he drunk when he got the bleeding heart tattoo? Anytime he gets a fugly tatt I chalk it up to being intoxicated. I rather believe that than think he has such crappy taste..

    If you look at the official merchandise for It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia, the Rock, Flag and Eagle shirt looks just like his tatt.

  450. All that makes me think of is how ‘ ¦ years after a favorite show is off the air, one moves on and you wonder why you were so engrossed with it in the first place. Tattoos should have a little more meaning than that, you’d think.

    David has never explained that tattoo, as far as I know. The words are from ISIP, but what it means for him and Neal? No clue. I just kniw they mirror each other..

  451. Wasn’t he drunk when he got the bleeding heart tattoo? Anytime he gets a fugly tatt I chalk it up to being intoxicated. I rather believe that than think he has such crappy taste..

    Dude needs to give up drinking alcohol then. The risks are too great.

    I don’t know the reason
    I stayed here all season
    Nothin to show but this brand new tattoo
    But it’s a real beauty
    A mexican cutie
    How it got here I haven’t a clue

  452. Jolene the only thing I knew was that Neal has it too. Or least I think he does. But ASIP really?I thought all his tattoos were meaningful. Ha

    Yeah. I thought the huge eyeball was ugly and creepy, but at least it seems to have real meaning to David. That one, not so much. That’s sort of why I hope the 14 has meaning and that DC will share it. Give me a reason to hate it less (Don’t you know it’s all about me? LOL).

    But seriously, get the ink away from him. Please?

  453. David has never explained that tattoo, as far as I know. The words are from ISIP, but what it means for him and Neal? No clue. I just kniw they mirror each other..

    David should step away from Neal when it comes to permanent fashion decisions. Just look at the ears. Actually … don’t, it makes my stomach turn.

  454. Well if Dave was drunk when he got the heart he could have gotten something 1 mil times worse.

  455. Yeah. I thought the huge eyeball was ugly and creepy,

    That one looks like a five year old designed it. Such a shame. They did that lovely commercial for Amercian Idol starring HIM and that stupid tattoo is prominently featured.

  456. I actually like the Rock, Flag, Eagle tat quite a bit (I dig the traditional Americana style), and I tend to think it might be one of his most meaningful pieces because it represents his bond with Neal. But I have ink and I like it on a man too, so perhaps I’m more forgiving than most.

  457. Just look at the ears. Actually ‘ ¦ don’t, it makes my stomach turn.

    LOL Oh I know. Not a fan too.
    But I like his arms. He has great art there. The other day I found close ups and some of those are impressive.

    That’s sort of why I hope the 14 has meaning and that DC will share it.

    I think he may say something, but will it be the real meaning? ahhhh I wanna know too. lol

    I actually like the Rock, Flag Eagle tat quite a bit (I dig the traditional Americana style), and I tend to think it might be one of his most meaningful pieces because it represents his bond with Neal.

    That’s how I see it too. And I actually think it’s a good one, I like the colors. The eye is the only one I ignore. lol>

  458. David & Neal may have terrible taste in tattoos but they are both wonderful musicians, they are loyal and have big hearts, and, well, yeah I’m a hopeless fangirl. Thanks, American Idol for introducing me to them.

  459. That’s sort of why I hope the 14 has meaning and that DC will share it. Give me a reason to hate it less (Don’t you know it’s all about me? LOL).

    LOL! It’s all about meeeee! I get all confuzzled wanting to mother him and then thinking he’s hot all at once. WTF? I’m not *that* old. I mean, I have kids… but they are 6 & 4!

    I kinda sorta like tattoos sometimes but… he gets some interesting ones. That eyeball ain’t my thing. I find it skeery :)

    Please no big scary ear things. Doesn’t Adam have big skeery things in his ears? No likey. Or fangs. Do NOT get those damn piercings on those beautiful lips, Mr. David Cook. Don’t.do.it.

  460. David & Neal may have terrible taste in tattoos but they are both wonderful musicians, they are loyal and have big hearts, and, well, yeah I’m a hopeless fangirl.

    Aw, yeah, I agree — and I love their friendship. And I still think Neal is oddly cute, especially with his longer hair, and I know that’s not what he’s going for but dammit, Neal, face it. You’re cute. He does, however, play guitar like a fricking rock god. I think he’s amazing.

  461. Look at this one: Regarded as the number of David according to the Bible. The evangelist Matthew would have organized the genealogy of Jesus on this basis.

    I thought he was an agnostic. It’s more likely to be his old baseball number or the number of his favorite player on some sports team or the other.

  462. Yeah. I thought the huge eyeball was ugly and scary, but at least it seemed to have real meaning. That one, not so much. That’s sort of why I hope the 14 has meaning and that DC will share it. Give me a reason to hate it less. Eeek.

    Top 14 things the New Tattoo Can Mean:

    14. The number of songs he wants to write on his next CD.

    13. The number of restraining order he has against his more “enthusiastic” fans.

    12. The number of letters in the Hawaiian alphabet + 2.

    11. The age at which he…well, you know.

    10. The number of first borns he owes 19E (they serve them up in the cafeteria. Braised with a sprig of rosemary)

    9. He’s a big football fan and it was supposed to be XVI to celebrate the Superbowl that was played during his birth year. Sadly, the tattoo artist was an idiot and not only didn’t do the Roman Numerals, she translated them wrong.

    8. 14 is the square root of 196 and everybody knows what that means.

    7. 14 is two times 7, so it’s two times as lucky!

    6. It’s his attempt to get Pete Rose (#14) into the Hall of Fame.

    5. He was going to get 13 tattooed, but he thought it would be unlucky.

    4. He’s a poet at heart and it’s his ode to the sonnet.

    3. He’s a massive thing for J.S. Bach who had a massive thing for encoding 14 in his music. Check it out. Cookie keeps repeating the notes B-flat, A, C, B in his songs.

    2. Silicon is the 14th element in the periodic table and he has a thing for silicon and what it can enhance.

    1. It’s his 19M Tattoo. He just chose to have it on his arm instead of his butt. He’s the 14th American Idol signed by 19M.

    A. I can’t believe I just wrote this.
    B. I’m going to go get some asbestos underwear, because 13 is bound to be unlucky for me.

  463. Kris is playing a charity event in Santa Barbara tonight, and this just happened…

    KrisAllen

    #Jeff Bridges offered me $10 to do the moonwalk!9 minutes ago from Echofon

    #calevis24 (Kris’ guitarist/friend, Cale Mills)

    Jeff bridges just offered kris ten dollars to do the moonwalk…i think he could get twenty out of him…11 minutes ago from txt

    Ok, I need video of Kris doing the moonwalk!

  464. Hee, Kirsten, I love your lists so very much :)

    I am sure David will be vastly amused (exasperated?) by what I’m sure are some interesting tweets about the tattoo…

  465. PS – I think Cale is going to be good for some epic tweets, based on recent days. He’s as random with his tweets as Kris…

  466. 1. It’s his 19M Tattoo. He just chose to have it on his arm instead of his butt. He’s the 14th American Idol signed by 19M.

    I like that one. I would’ve thought they’d barcode them, though. Too expensive?

  467. At least I can take comfort in the fact he can’t do anything to his lips.

    You were saying?

    Or fangs. Do NOT get those damn piercings on those beautiful lips, Mr. David Cook. Don’t.do.it.

    Perish the thought. Yikes.

    Oh well. I may not like most of the tattoos (I LOVE the AC on his bicep, it’s beautiful and so emotionally charged. I also don’t mind the bleeding heart at all), but when all is said and done, I love David, tatoos and bad hair and all… It’s sort of reassuring to know he’s not perfect, y’know?

    ETA – LMAO, Kirsten, that list is wonderful. I give it 14/14!

  468. I LOVE the AC on his bicep

    That one is hot for so many reasons.

    But I do think it makes me like him even more that he’s so often just a *guy* — maybe it makes him seem more real. Hair, tattoos, whatever. I like :)

  469. I like that one. I would’ve thought they’d barcode them, though. Too expensive?

    LMAO.

    But, true, probably too expensive for 19M. Plus, who wants to go to the hassle of finding a barcode reader everytime you need to communicate with one of your “employees”. “You, number 14, it’s your turn to record a Kara song. Get in the booth or you get the hose again”

  470. You know, I think Cookie might be the 14th Idol signed by 19M..Idols signed by 19M…

    1. Kelly
    2. Justin
    3. Nikki
    4. Tamyra
    5. Ruben
    6. Clay
    7. Fantasia (Diana signed with her Mom)
    8. Carrie
    9. Bo
    10. Daughtry
    11. Kellie (I think)
    12. Jordin (joint with her parents)
    13. Blake
    14. Cook (Archie signed with somebody else)
    15. Kris
    16. Adam
    17. Allison (Danny has different management).

    I tell you, if Kris starts sporting a 15, 16, or 17 tattoo, we need to contact the UN.

  471. It’s sort of reassuring to know that he’s not perfect, y’know?

    Nobody’s perfect, but why emphasize the imperfection. (Oh yeah, it’s a pattern. The hair. The long bangs.) Maybe the tattoos are the equivalent of a body comb over.

  472. LOLOL Kirsten! It’s just perfect.

    2. Silicon is the 14th element in the periodic table and he has a thing for silicon and what it can enhance.

    lol Why doesn’t this sound so out there? Maybe a shout out to the naughty nurse? Dude, you were just another number.

  473. I tell you, if Kris starts sporting a 15, 16, or 17 tattoo, we need to contact the UN.

    Maybe the tattoos are the equivalent of a body comb over.

    LMAO. I love how this thread turned out… Thanks for some top notch laughs, guys.
    Good night everyone.

  474. I tell you, if Kris starts sporting a 15, 16, or 17 tattoo, we need to contact the UN.

    Or Amnesty International.

  475. Sarver is having a twitter party. Wonder if the S9 Idols will have Twitter parties?

  476. Late to the party…rl day.

    For anyone who doesn’t think the economy has something to do with the whole music purchasing industry is hiding their head in an ostrich hole. Families are counting their pennies and little luxuries are pretty few and far between. And if you are like me…living on unemployment for a year you have to make choices. I am sure many of us “fans” will decide to buy a hard cover CD…I’d rather have 14 songs for $10 than buy a boat load of singles.

    Second, Michael Jackson was in the biz for 40 years..and died a well publicized and tragic death. Check back with me in 40 years and we will see if a newcomer from today can match some of his numbers. Bet it will happen…Nobody ever thought anyone would outsell the Beatles when they retired as a group in the early 70s.

    Also, no matter how you play the numbers game the bottom line is revenue. So lets have a discussion about whom is the best at the end of a full calendar year for everyone. That includes sales, promos, tours, endorcements etc. That is the only true measure of a singer’s true worth. So If someone can pull up numbers for all of the idols season 7 and earlier at the end of this year and compare how they did in 2009 that will tell us who is doing the “best” job. In 2010 we can add Gokey, Allen, Lambert and Iraheta to that list.

    And unless we are listening at keyholes how do any of us really know what the marketing plan for any idol is at any time. I am sure that numerous different factions weigh in. Sure, it would be nice if we could see a nice smooth roll out for everyone we are fans of…but lots of influences go into the day to day decisions that a PR firm does. And like everything else in this mixed up world of ours somethings are handled by committee and that will always tend to throw a monkey wrench in the best laid plans. I’ll hold my judgments until Dec. 31 of 2010 to let you know how the season 8 idols did in the grand scheme of things.

  477. Maybe DC’s feet grew and he went up another shoe size? IDK. Just means we’d have to start referring to certain . . . er, parts . . . as the Size 14s.

  478. Kirsten
    11/06/2009 at 11:20 pm
    Top 14 things the New Tattoo Can Mean

    ROLF. Excellent job on those Kirsten. You rock.

    I don’t think we have to worry too much about piercing, he’s said several times that’s not his thing. And he’d never mislead us or anything, right? Right?!?

    I have to admit I’ve grown kind of fond of the tats. He wouldn’t seem like him anymore without them. And I like they way they all seem to mean something personal to him. The AC one is by far my fav – lovely artwork and a very sexy place for a tattoo.

  479. Kris is playing a charity event in Santa Barbara tonight, and this just happened’ ¦

    KrisAllen

    #Jeff Bridges offered me $10 to do the moonwalk!9 minutes ago from Echofon

    #calevis24 (Kris’ guitarist/friend, Cale Mills)

    Jeff bridges just offered kris ten dollars to do the moonwalk’ ¦i think he could get twenty out of him’ ¦11 minutes ago from txt

    Ok, I need video of Kris doing the moonwalk!

    YES, we need a visual of that!!!!

    studio57, i had a blast watching the video…squeee. A bit weirdo the guy but you can’t fault his routine. FYE is a very cool dance song

    Kirsten, you’re on fire tonight…lol

  480. Maybe DC’s feet grew and he went up another shoe size? IDK. Just means we’d have to start referring to certain . . . er, parts . . . as the Size 14s.

    LOL! okay, this is my favorite so far.

    So 19 is branding their signees? someone start searching the others for The Mark!

  481. i’m late in the discussion, … where on his body has David got his 14 tattoo?

    that would be a bit obvious if Kris was getting a 15 tattoo!

  482. Further down on the link posted by 123abc456 (www.ridingthebeast.com) is this:

    Gematria
    Fourteen is the numerical value of the name of David, and of the words “hand” and “gold” in Hebrew, the last one being the symbol of the original purity of the matter.

    Now, I know DC isn’t Jewish, but this makes the most sense to me. He plays guitar with his hands and I guess gold could mean the $$ he’s making being a rock star?? Just my thoughts on a boring night…lol!

  483. I like DC, I like tatoos, but I do not like that tattoo of his. It’s kind of lame. I mean, the number 14? It really does look like something like a superfan would do for his favourite player and well, I find that kind of meh.

    Also I really like the story and symbolism of his eye tattoo, but find the actual art, kind of DNW.

    But I’m all for his getting more tattoos, as long as they dont’ suck, and aren’t sleeves. Not a fan of the sleeve.

  484. There’s news that RCS’a A & R Exec who was charged with Adam’s album is leaving RCA. Can you please find out details? Is this the reason why launch of Adam’s single is very disappointing?

  485. Kirsten

    Do you know whether LLWD cracking the Top 40 on the mediabase pop chart means that it will be on Ryan’s American Top 30 show? I don’t know what source they use for that program.

    Also, does this “officially” give him a Top 40 hit?

  486. yeahh!!! LLWD officially in the top 40!!

    Yay! That’s always a milestone and it’s a nice one to hit.

  487. Do you know whether LLWD cracking the Top 40 on the mediabase pop chart means that it will be on Ryan’s American Top 30 show? I don’t know what source they use for that program.

    I’m going to assume that you mean Top 40 show? Probably. The Top 40 show is recorded mid-week, so it obviously won’t make this weekend’s shows, but it should probably make them next weekend (or the one after that).

    Also, does this ‘officially’  give him a Top 40 hit?

    Depends how you define it. It’s generally accepted that you have to do it on the weekly chart (Sunday to Sunday), but I think he should be able to hold the position. Nobody nearby is gaining faster than LLWD (Timbaland is going to need a few weeks to catch up), LLWD might be able to reel in a couple of songs ahead of it and some songs might go re-current on Sunday, so it should be able to finish out the week in Top 40. It might not be Top 40 on BB though because they use a different monitoring service (BDS). Still, it’s a milestone.

    And it’s a recognizable milestone. Jive will be able to advertise that the CD contains the Top 40 hit LLWD and people will know what the means. They don’t know what “The most added song in HAC” means.

  488. LLWD has cracked the Top 40!!

    Excellent news. And does this mean all those stations that won’t play songs unless they are in the top 40 will play it now? Because that would be cool.

  489. Excellent news. And does this mean all those stations that won’t play songs unless they are in the top 40 will play it now? Because that would be cool.

    This may convince more stations to spin it. It certainly won’t hurt.

  490. I also noticed there was a red triangle next to it. I’m assuming this means that it’s still gaining spins?

  491. kariann
    11/07/2009 at 12:38 am
    There’s news that RCS’a A & R Exec who was charged with Adam’s album is leaving RCA. Can you please find out details?

    He’s leaving to become the President of Columbia Records. I didnt’ realize he was involved with so many successful people:

    While at RCA, he A&R’d multi-platinum, platinum and gold artists, including the Foo Fighters, Kings of Leon, Daughtry, Velvet Revolver and David Cook along with breakthrough artists Ray LaMontagne and Imogen Heap. His most recent accomplishment was overseeing A&R for the highly anticipated debut album from American Idol finalist Adam Lambert.

    http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/newsPage.cgi?news07824m01

  492. thedavidcook
    Thank you, Shawnee. Great to see so many friends. FYI the surprises have not been unveiled yet.

    Mr. Cook remains a big tease :)

  493. Aw, yeah, I agree ‘” and I love their friendship. And I still think Neal is oddly cute, especially with his longer hair, and I know that’s not what he’s going for but dammit, Neal, face it. You’re cute. He does, however, play guitar like a fricking rock god. I think he’s amazing.

    This!!! I’m possibly one of DC’s most conservative fans, but Neal is Neal and I truly love him how he is!!! Is it because he’s a guitar god? Possibly! He is gifted beyond belief and everything about him just adds to this, imho.

  494. LMAO.

    But, true, probably too expensive for 19M. Plus, who wants to go to the hassle of finding a barcode reader everytime you need to communicate with one of your ’employees’ . ‘You, number 14, it’s your turn to record a Kara song. Get in the booth or you get the hose again’ 

    This and the list is too much Kristen. Im supposed to be asleep and Im cracking up. Not good.
    But honestly LMAO

  495. I wonder how Ashley Newton’s departure from RCA would affect chances of Adam’s album being added to radio play lists given that this is part of his responsibility. Ditto with his video. Could be that this is the reason why Adam’s single launch is having a slow and disappointing start. Maybe at this time they are still reorganizing.

  496. My guess on David Cook’s new tattoo:

    I saw a concert banter video a while back (I can’t remember which concert) where he talked about being on Wikipedia and that his album DCTR had sold 1 million+ and that it listed Analog Heart as selling 1,114. He repeated that number several times and said “I might have that tattooed somewhere.” That was the first thing that I thought of when I saw it. Course, since it doesn’t say 1114, I could be completely wrong. Just a theory.

  497. http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/newsPage.cgi?news07824m01

    Ashley Newton is headed for the Columbia Records Presidency, a post he will assume sometime before the end of year.

    I think Ashley Newton did a great job in choosing songs and recruiting musicians for Adam’s album. Too bad he is leaving RCA in 2 months. Although I think it’s mainly marketing department’s job to promote FYE the single and the album, A&R is also highly involved in the process and Newton’s leave def affects the whole roll-out.

  498. kariann
    11/07/2009 at 1:56 am
    I wonder how Ashley Newton’s departure from RCA would affect chances of Adam’s album being added to radio play lists given that this is part of his responsibility. Ditto with his video. Could be that this is the reason why Adam’s single launch is having a slow and disappointing start. Maybe at this time they are still reorganizing.

    A&R (Artist and Repertoire) is responsible for finding talent, and for the creative and recording management. A&R supports marketing and promotion, but A&R is not actively involved in managing these functions.
    Regarding Ashley Newton, his team already did a termondous job for Adam — they are the people responsible for making the arrangements for all the collaborators.

    RCA has said that they are not pushing FYE on radio until next week (reported in HHD today) — looked like they are trying to have the single peak when the album released on 11/23/09 — no before.

    FYE has been for sale for 4 days — and we actually have no idea what the sales look like. So it seems a bit early to say “slow and disappointing.” I recommend waiting until there is a week of real promotion before coming to any conclusions.

  499. That’s interesting about the A&R guy leaving. It would likely be a problem if Adam’s album wasn’t done and his single hadn’t dropped yet. But hopefully he already knows whoever replaces this guy (maybe someone who works with/for Newton) so the transition will be smooth

  500. CKX Financials : With the profits down , this will put more pressure on 19M to perform right .
    In a way this is good for Adam, Allison and Kris. This will mean that 19M will do all they can to make their talents make good , as their income also hinges on that. On the other hand, if a talent has mediocre performance they will cut their losses quick as the war chest is low . There will be no second album if the first one does not post the expected return on their investment.

    Recession is a bloody thing- weaker corporations will crumble, at same time the astute and aggressive ones will prevail.

  501. Woke up early this morning to find that Kris broke the top 40 on pop. Way to go Kris, and I had no doubt you’d do it after the reception you got the first couple of weeks on adds.

    Also got yelled at for cracking up at 4:30 a.m. over Kirsten’s Top 14 list. Twas priceless (which is always more than $14.00). I’m really unconcerned with tattoos. I’m sure there’s a meaning to the 14 for David. I’m not sure we’ll ever know based on the fact that we’ve spoon fed him so many media bites that may or may not be juicier.

    I have a daughter who started piercing herself at age 13. By age 18, she has no recognizable scars from her earlier forays, but she’s still not tattooed. She absolutely recognizes the forgiveness of a piercing but that a tattoo lives forever, even after it’s gone. She’s just not ready to make that commitment, but I think she will someday. She does understand, however, that for her field, her tattoos could never be in the forefront. She knows that the piercings she’s had are so very much easier to go away. Heh, she told me that one of her friends takes the gauges out of his ears for going to work and takes that big old hole and wraps it around the entirety of his ear. That made me lol so hard. I’ve heard some people say that they get sleeves and such so that they could never get a 9 to 5 job. I don’t know how relevant it is anymore, but I do give them credit for their commitment.

    I find Carly’s Geisha sleeve breathtakingly beautiful. I’m also unconcerned with people inking themselves (though I, too, tend not to want to see DC’s eyeball tattoo–creepy). I’m just a bit unconcerned about this stuff. It wasn’t the thing when I was their age…in fact it may have been a bad thing. It’s different now. Hell my 59 year old sister has 3 tattoos that she’s gotten since age 50. She’s working on what the 4th will be.We got a tweet from David saying surprises haven’t been unveiled yet. I’m hoping we will get one of said surprises Nov. 18 or 19 (the two final shows I’m attending).I’m also glad he doesn’t find a new tattoo to be a surprise for his fans. Just saying.

  502. RCA has said that they are not pushing FYE on radio until next week (reported in HHD today) ‘” looked like they are trying to have the single peak when the album released on 11/23/09 ‘” no before.

    FYE has been for sale for 4 days ‘” and we actually have no idea what the sales look like. So it seems a bit early to say ‘slow and disappointing.’  I recommend waiting until there is a week of real promotion before coming to any conclusions.

    I completely agree. I don’t understand the “gloom” predictions when it hasn’t even been a full week yet. Plus, a lot of sales went through the AO website. I know I pre-ordered the deluxe album myself and got the single download. I’m sure I’m not the only one. Maybe they are focused more on album sales than single sales, and like you said, they are waiting closer to the album sales to push the single. I don’t think Adam’s career is over due to Itunes….. I mean, I expect that type of prediction from VFTW but thats about it. lol

    We should definitely wait until his promotion kicks in.

  503. Second, Michael Jackson was in the biz for 40 years..and died a well publicized and tragic death. Check back with me in 40 years and we will see if a newcomer from today can match some of his numbers.

    You honestly think a current artist is good enough and appeals to enough people to sell over 100 million records for one album??? Someone will undoubtedly outsell MJ one day because there is always someone out there better than you, but I think it’ll take more than 40 years and the music industry will have to change. Its not just about the economy, its also about the lack of originality. Every time someone original comes around they get panned for not being “mainstream” enough. We have to get rid of that mentality in my judgment before we will accept another MJ.

  504. http://www.mmr247.com/mmrweb/Reports/Reg/EMD.asp?SOngID=1697047&NumDays=7

    Seems the spin data has been updated. This means (I think) that FYE got 43 spins since yesterday. I think the numbers look good.

    Adam might end up with around 300 spins for the first week. If we look at the data for Kris, he needed 1015 spins to enter the top40 chart, so if we give Adam 2 more weeks with the current pace he should be there. But we also have the AMA’s in 2 weeks.

    Looking at the numbers I don’t think RCA’s strategy is bad. The single might even pick up more spins and end up in top40 before 2 weeks and that wont hurt.

  505. Adam might end up with around 300 spins for the first week. If we look at the data for Kris, he needed 1015 spins to enter the top40 chart, so if we give Adam 2 more weeks with the current pace he should be there. But we also have the AMA’s in 2 weeks.

    I believe you are mixing the numbers there. Those 1015 LLWD needed to enter top 40 were for the week and on the pop format, the around 300 spins FYE has now are total spins for every format. What counts for a song to enter the top 40 are the weekly spins in that format.
    FYE has 216 spins total for the week, 108 on pop (900 to go to get to those 1000). It added 10 more spins to its weekly total yesterday, 6 of them on pop. With the current pace (10-20 per day) it would need a lot more than 2 weeks. But next week, with more and new adds, the song should start getting more daily spins.

  506. RCA has said that they are not pushing FYE on radio until next week (reported in HHD today) ‘” looked like they are trying to have the single peak when the album released on 11/23/09 ‘” no before.

    How are you defining “peak”? Peak in single sales? Ranking? Number of units moved? I’m not sure having one week of 100K single sales is going to make the difference in the long run.

    If you mean radio, what do you mean? Radio has a cumulative effect. It generally takes re-hearing the song several times to get people to want to buy it. Plus, even if it has an epic week next week, that’s only a spincrease of about 1200 and that’s a pretty low place to peak on the pop chart. One would hope that it keeps going up (plus it would be rare to suddenly gain 1200 spins one week and that to be your peak position on the chart…ie you start falling off from there). Radio doesn’t turn on a dime.

    So, I’m totally confused.

    Adam might end up with around 300 spins for the first week

    The first week of release is now over and there were 216 spins.

    If we look at the data for Kris, he needed 1015 spins to enter the top40 chart, so if we give Adam 2 more weeks with the current pace he should be there.

    No, he’s going to have to pick up the pace to reach top 40 in two weeks. That’s raw spins across all formats.

    LLWD has 1125 spins in Pop, but only 1015 spins on the published charts. Some stations are not counted on the published charts (Mediabase cannot monitor all stations, so it creates a basket of representative stations for the published charts). 110 of the spins are on stations that do not make up part of the published charts.

    Currently, FYE has 108 spins in pop and 102 spins in HAC (and 1 spin in Active Rock and 5 spins on Rhythmic). If we assume that you need about 1100 raw spins per week to chart in Pop and FYE continues at it’s current spincrease (I think it will pick up next week with more adds), it will take 10 more weeks to reach Top 40 (or around January 15th).

  507. I get the main point though, Adam has to have increased spins in the pop format to enter top40, preferably something around 300+ spins.

    Sorry Kristen, I didn’t see that it was divided into weeks.

  508. http://www.mmr247.com/mmrweb/Reports/Reg/EMD.asp?SOngID=1687846&NumDays=1

    and I dont see him getting 1015 spins last week. This is what I see

    Period Aud Spins AC HAC COU POP
    11/6/2009 9.434 290 0 130 0 160

    You’ve got the number of days set to 1 (last number on the link). That’s the number of spins he got yesterday.

    Here is the 7 day link: 7 Day Rolling QuickCut

    I don’t undertsand the numbers in the bottom row here, it doesn’t seem to add up?

    Those are total over the life time of the single.

  509. I am slow today, the spins actually have to increase ten times what he has now for entering the top40…

  510. Maybe they are focused more on album sales than single sales, and like you said, they are waiting closer to the album sales to push the single. I don’t think Adam’s career is over due to Itunes’ ¦.. I mean, I expect that type of prediction from VFTW but thats about it. lol

    having read all the idol veterans in a few blogs, yes.. RCA’s always been focused on album sales rather than single sales. While Jive’s always focusing on single sales more..

  511. Kirsten- Have you and MJ ever thought of having another section at the top of the page ( where archives are) that explains for us dummies about how to read the spins, mediabase charts, etc. I still don’t get it and it looks like I am not alone, lol.

  512. Thanks, wellhesback! I fell in love with the MWK version of “Til I’m Blue” long before DC started singing it in concert so I’ve always wanted to hear Andy sing it live. That was fantastic!! And I love the little smiles that kept sneaking their way into his face as he was singing.

    Loved the band intros. Loved how DC teased Kyle about being the only band member he hadn’t known for years. “I mean . . . he’s from Orange County!” Heh.

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