Idol Headlines for 10/12/10

Bo Bice and Taylor Hicks appear on back to back episodes of Don’t Forget the Lyrics on My Network TV. Check your local listings for time and Channel.

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Kelly Clarkson joins Michael Johns and others for Jordin Sparks’ annual Superbowl event, the Jordin Sparks Experience. The year, the big game takes place at Cowboys Stadium in Dallas. Feb. 2-4. More information HERE.

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More songs from David Cook: @DavidCook: “Finished a new song with @nealfingtiemann and @hodgesmusic. Even worked up some choreography. Hodges dances like a liquid tiger?”

More Headlines after the JUMP…

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Nigel Lythgoe Promises Drama-Free American Idol

“It’s a whole different atmosphere now, ” he told TV Guide Magazine at the 7th Annual Gala benefiting the Alfred E. Mann Foundation. “Everything is so positive. I think the last couple of years, because everyone was always so worried about ratings and Simon going or Simon not going, it ceased being fun.”

“I love three [judges] first off, and I think the chemistry is great in comparison to where it went [in the last few seasons], ” he says. “Randy’s come out of the shadows, I’m really happy with Randy. Randy is Simon Cowell now. Stephen is a lot of fun. And Jennifer just cares. She is like Paula with the caring but she’s a little tougher.”

Read more at TV Guide

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Conditions set for Lambert’s concert in KL

PETALING JAYA: The Adam Lambert Glam Nation Tour concert in Malaysia will go on. The green light was given by the Central Agency for Application for Filming and Performance by Foreign Artistes (Puspal) with conditions attached.

Puspal principal assistant secretary Mohd Dian Nais said among the guidelines were that the singer should dress appropriately and refrain from performing indecent acts, such as removing his clothes.

He was responding to a protest memorandum on the concert by Pas Youth deputy-chief Azman Shapawi Abd Rani.

Read more at The Star

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Adam Lambert: ‘Tough Decision’ To Obey Malaysia’s Anti-Kissing Rules

Lambert has agreed to heed restrictions against stripping, jumping and kissing onstage, said Yuen-See Cho, a representative for concert co-organizer Sony Music Entertainment Malaysia.

“It’s something I’m doing out of respect, ” Lambert said in an interview with the AP ahead of his Hong Kong concert. “It’s just one little thing. Man kissing another man is something that government really doesn’t appreciate.”

“I think it’s a tough decision to make, but to me, there are so many amazing fans in Malaysia that it’s more important for me to be able to come and do my show there for them and entertain them and thank them for supporting me, ” he added.

Read more at Huffington Post

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Elvis Presley’s Graceland Teams up with American Red Cross to Celebrate Holidays

MEMPHIS, Tenn., Oct 12, 2010 (BUSINESS WIRE) — Elvis Presley’s Graceland in Memphis, TN will officially begin the holiday season by “flipping the switch” for the annual lighting celebration on November 19, with the traditional lights and decorations on the 13.8 acre mansion property. The extensive display includes hundreds of blue lights along the driveway, a life-size Nativity scene, Santa and his sleigh and much more originally displayed at Graceland by Elvis and the Presley family.

The event this year will also support the American Red Cross, with the Bloodmobile on site as part of an awareness campaign to encourage the public to donate blood during the holidays, a historically critical time for blood inventory. During his lifetime, Elvis supported the Red Cross and frequently donated blood while in the Army.

Highlighting the 2010 lighting ceremony will be Lee DeWyze, winner of the ninth season of American Idol, who will join with a Red Cross blood recipient and “flip the switch” to officially light the Graceland property and kick off the holiday festivities.

Read more at Marketwatch

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More Idol rivals? Bring ’em on, says Ruben

YOU’LL never get American Idol Season 2 winner Ruben Studdard (aka the Velvet Teddybear) to dish dirt – not about a friend, anyway.

The 32-year-old, who will be in town to perform as part of the Singapore Sun Festival on Oct 29 and 30, was on tour with former Idol rival Clay Aiken in the United States earlier this year.

Ask him about any lingering rivalry, and Studdard laughs his infectious, booming laugh.

Read more at AsiaOne.com

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16 Acts Konned Over US Tour

X FACTOR finalists were left devastated when they were told that not everyone would be going on the show’s lucrative UK tour.

The massive letdown came after Xtra Factor presenter Konnie Huq announced on live TV that all 16 acts WOULD take part.

Contestants were jubilant after Konnie, 35, said on Saturday that those who had made it to the live shows – including the four wildcards – would join next year’s 15-date arena tour.

Read more at The Sun

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Gorillaz: We won’t let ‘Glee’ cover our songs

NEW YORK – The virtual band Gorillaz isn’t exactly going bananas over the television musical series “Glee.”

Lead singer Damon Albarn says he’s not interested in letting the hit show perform covers of his band’s songs.

“We wouldn’t let that happen, ” Albarn said in an interview with The Associated Press last week.

“And not that they’ve asked us because they haven’t, and now they definitely won’t, ” he continued with a laugh.

Read more at Associated Press

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102 Comments

  1. I believe that the American Music Award nominations come out today. I had read somewhere that they do. Agnes Monica one of the hosts for the AMA’s red carpet had mentioned there would be a press conference today.

    I think that Danny might end up being mentioned in the press conference as being one of the hosts for the AMA’s red carpet.

  2. David Cook keeps writing song, but we’ve known the names of 22 of them for quite some time now. Then there are the ones that haven’t been named but mentioned, like the one in the tweet. Come on, let’s hear something about a release date. It’s frustrating being a David Cook fan right now.

  3. jx- yep- looks like 9:30PST will be the announcements. From their facebook page:

    American Music Awards The time has finally come… the 2010 American Music Awards Nominations Announcent! Beginning at 9:30AM PST/12:30PM EST, our celebrity MC’s will be announcing the nominees for all award categories, including Artist of the Year. Keep checking in to the AMA Facebook page for the complete list of nominees, breaking news, and videos featuring your favorite stars!!!

  4. LOL not only can Nigel not stop blabbing about the judges to any media anywhere near him, he can’t keep his stories straight. What happened to yesterday’s JLo is the new Simon? I never paid any attention to behind the scenes stuff when Nigel was running the show before, but the peeps who called him an attention hoar weren’t lyin.

  5. Oh wow the AMA nominations press conference totally flashes me back to a year ago. Hah I will not be holding my breath for any nominations for Adam, that’s for sure.

  6. I noticed that Lee is not listed as a performer on GMA or The Today Show fall concert lineups. Has there been any word if he will have a pre-release concert? I know he has been listed as a performer at the Miami Dolphins tailgate thing but no date has been set.

  7. The funny thing soverymel is if you go to their website there is nothing BUT Adam fans on there.

    Wonder why we didn’t hear anything about the celebrity announcers- remember what a big deal it was last year? They announced Paula and Adam and Snoop weeks ahead of time ( I think) and they do not even mention this year who they are.

  8. I noticed that Lee is not listed as a performer on GMA or The Today Show fall concert lineups. Has there been any word if he will have a pre-release concert? I know he has been listed as a performer at the Miami Dolphins tailgate thing but no date has been set.

    Last year Kris and Allison performed on GMA the week their cds dropped (not sure if the performances were considered part of fall concert series or not — and of course Adam was also scheduled to perform the week his cd dropped but they cancelled him post AMAs, so he performed on CBS Early Show instead)..No one performed on the Today Show. I would expect Lee and Crystal to perform on at least one of the morning shows the week their respective albums are released

  9. Re David Cook taking his sweet time: It’s obviously a label decision, as I recall him saying 10 months ago that he wanted this record out as soon as possible. I have to admit I’m a bit concerned seeing as in idol land delayed albums are usually followed by poor sales and label dropping.

  10. “Everything is so positive. I think the last couple of years, because everyone was always so worried about ratings and Simon going or Simon not going, it ceased being fun.”

    *Blech* I’m glad he’s not worried about ratings anymore. ;)

  11. Hah I will not be holding my breath for any nominations for Adam, that’s for sure.

    Good idea, we wouldn’t want you to pass out and get hurt ;)

  12. mmb, it was listed as part of the fall concert series for Kris & Adam for GMA before Adam’s appearance was moved to CBS.

    was it? well, i still wouldn’t read anything into anything if lee and crystal aren’t listed yet…its over a month away and i have no doubt whatsoever that they will perform on one of the major morning shows…

  13. Seems like Cook is doing some serious writing again. Only speculation, but for whatever reason, I would guess the label sent him back for additional material. They better get behind him when it comes to release time; they owe him some major promo at this point.

    And, there is no way Lee isn’t going to get a morning show appearence for his CD drop week. That’s, like, standard procedure for an AI alum.

  14. Nigel is gonna get whiplash with all those quick turnarounds. Heh. But I am interested in seeing this panel in action.

    We are not going to get a release date for Cookie until next year. Who gives a drop date this far in advance? It is October! He won’t be dropping until probably February or March. I’m not even looking for clues until January. Ditto single releases… the most lead time you get on an adds date is maybe a month. If you keep looking for it now, you’ll just get frustrated.

    I would guess Lee’s promo info will start rolling out tomorrow. I’m guessing things will go really fast once the single debuts.

    That AMAs are typically about the top selling acts, right? I don’t think Adam will get any nods this time around… that particular show is only interested in smashes. I would look for a grammy nom before this.

  15. I think Cook’s album is mostly done. This writing is being done with his friends probably to see if some incredible song comes up that could be added at the last minute since he has a few months of time now due to the delay. Although Hodges is a staple AI co-writer, Cook & Co have recently become best buds with him and hang out, play ultimate frisbee, etc very often. So this type of writing does not signal label sending him back for anything to me. I believe that the delay of Cook and other RCA artists to next year is strictly due to budget/financial issues as well as positioning the various artists for optimum push for single radio play when the time is right.

  16. In my (few)calm lucid moments as a David Cook fan, I feel exactly as Aileen stated. I do, however, want & expect a heck of a rollout for his album. If he doesn’t get excellent treatment for single & album drop time and beyond then I will be one angry angry camper.

  17. Seems like Cook is doing some serious writing again. Only speculation, but for whatever reason, I would guess the label sent him back for additional material.

    Agree with Aileen that this doesn’t feel like the label’s doing but Cook & Co.’s. For one, the most recent writing (other than this most recent one with Hodges) has been either (based on his tweets) (1) David alone (or so it seems), (2) David, Neal & Andy, or (3) David and Neal. It would seem strange for the label to tell them to go back to the drawing board and write more songs and have them write amongst themselves, instead of with named songwriters as Cook was doing at the beginning of the year. I mean, I guess if RCA just loved the Cook solo and Cook & band co-writes so much they wanted more, but something tells me that’s not really RCA’s modus operandi. As for Hodges, as Aileen said, he’s kinda become one of Cook’s gang, as he’s even hanging out with Cook’s little bro — so obviously not just a professional relationship anymore.

    Anyway, as was mentioned several days ago, it seems that this is what these guys do in their down time. They are musicians after all. I recall a tweet from Neal during the Declaration Tour where he mentioned that he wrote a song while they were waiting to cross the border to Canada. So, I guess whenever there’s down time and inspiration strikes, they write!

  18. why does Nigel feel the need for incessant babble regarding these judges? someone make him stop!!

  19. “It’s something I’m doing out of respect,” Lambert said in an interview with the AP ahead of his Hong Kong concert. “It’s just one little thing. Man kissing another man is something that government really doesn’t appreciate.”

    “I think it’s a tough decision to make,

    It should be an easy decision. One advice to Adam, and I don’t say it lightly, when he gets to Malaysia, just “shut up and sing”. It’s something apparently said to Dixie Chicks when they got involved in politics, but at least they knew the cultural and political milieu they are dealing with, Adam don’t know what that may be like in Malaysia, what the boundary may be there. Tread carefully and choose words wisely, keep quiet if he isn’t sure about anything. Don’t say anything like “It’s a tough decision having not to kiss another man”. It isn’t about right or wrong here, it’s about not stirring up something in another country that isn’t for him to do so.

    Kuala Lumpur is a cosmopolitan city and I don’t see problem with him doing a show there, but do it somewhere where PAS is in power would risk serious repercussion. I was there some years ago and read about Muslim girls being arrested by religious police for going into karaoke lounge. The religious people there have some power that is independent of what government may want.

    Nigel is gonna get whiplash with all those quick turnarounds. Heh.

    Nigel is doing what he does best, trying to sell the show, keep the show in the news and keep people interested. Something that they have forgotten how to do last season.

  20. I think that Danny might end up being mentioned in the press conference as being one of the hosts for the AMA’s red carpet.

    Not the same as being on the show, but fun for his fans nonetheless. Lol, I noticed he gained 1000 Twitter fans just last night since his picture was shown with that Indonesian pop star. They are all Indonesian I believe! They must be active on Twitter.

    I’m sure no Idol will perform on the show this year, lol, unless it is Daughtry or Carrie. Kris presented last year didn’t he? I wonder if there is any chance Lee will present?

  21. Not the same as being on the show, but fun for his fans nonetheless. Lol, I noticed he gained 1000 Twitter fans just last night since his picture was shown with that Indonesian pop star. They are all Indonesian I believe! They must be active on Twitter.

    I had saw the nice increase he got in followers as well. I think that at least most of his newest followers are Agnes fans. I’m saw several tweets posted about him from her fans on Twitter. A lot of the tweets I believe are written in Indonesian.

    Kris did present last year. Maybe Lee might get to present this year. I’m not sure if any idols will perform on the AMA’s this year.

  22. I wouldn’t be surprised if Daughtry and/or Carrie perform, considering both have had big hits recently and are selling well

  23. Hazehel:
    It should be an easy decision. One advice to Adam, and I don’t say it easily, when he gets to Malaysia, just “shut up and sing”.

    From what I’m hearing, Adam is getting advice from some pros there who know the situation well. It’s not Adam’s actions I’m concerned about so much as what some hotheaded religious zealot could do. Being both gay and Jewish already amounts to two strikes against him in the minds of some of those evil bigots.

  24. From what I’m hearing, Adam is getting advice from some pros there who know the situation well. It’s not Adam’s actions I’m concerned about so much as what some hotheaded religious zealot could do. Being both gay and Jewish already amounts to two strikes against him in the minds of some of those evil bigots.

    If the promoters or Adam’s management thought there was some danger from evil bigots, the concert never would have been booked. Obviously there is an audience for and a demand for Adam’s music, or else he would not be performing. All they are asking is that he respect their customs and laws.

  25. OT, but — why is Justin Bieber launching a nail polish line?

    He has millions of teenage girl fans, who will buy anything that he releases.

  26. Nigel said no backstage drama? Expect lots of drama when the next season starts. That’s what he’s good at, making noise, to raise ratings.

  27. Every year the Idol winner does something on the AMA’s whether it be performing or presenting, even Taylor presented so I figure Lee will at least do that.

    Everytime DC tweets about writing he gets hit with all these tweets from fans all excited. I can’t muster up any excitement, especially Neal who’s writing does nothing for me. Now if he mentions he’s back in the studio I’ll get happy again. Right now its just frustrating. And seriously, Archies numbers have me even more nervous about this longass delay.

  28. OT, but — why is Justin Bieber launching a nail polish line?

    If I were Beaver, I wouldn’t go with totally girly stuff. Now every guy in the planet says he is lesbian. I happened to watch Pro Active ad the fetus was on one night and couldn’t stop laughing. This 8 year old looking boy before puberty was talking about his skin care and it was so awkward.

  29. Well I guess neither Kris or Adam will be able to attend since both will be touring when the AMA’s roll around. If it is anything like last year, there will still be a lot of idols in the audience.

  30. Cowell: ‘Wagner was a highlight’

    Simon Cowell has claimed that Wagner Carrilho was one of his favourite acts in the first X Factor live show.

    The Syco boss and reality TV judge said that he “rewound” Carrilho’s performance when he watched the programme back, describing the Brazilian-born singer as “fascinating”.

    “It’s like watching something so surreal, I actually rewound it,” he told X magazine. “I’ve definitely lost it this year. Like I say, you have to embrace the madness sometimes.

    “Plus, I think it’s important that you don’t marginalise anyone. I mean the whole point of the show from start to finish was that it shouldn’t just appeal to one group of people. Everyone should have their favourites. There is an audience for Wagner. God help them. And they’re entitled to him.”

  31. FYI Today’s AMA noms:

    Recording artists Taio Cruz and Demi Lovato will announce the nominations for the 2010 annual American Music Awards, which will be held Nov. 21 at the Nokia Theatre. Nominations will be announced in pop/rock, country, rap/hip hop, soul/R&B, alternative, adult contemporary, Latin, contemporary inspirational and soundtrack. Winners will be determined by online voting at ABC.com. Media check-in at 8:30 a.m.; announcement at 9:30 a.m. JW Marriott at LA Live, Mixing Room, 900 W. Olympic Ave.

  32. I’m sure Lee will be doing morning shows and stuff. Although I’m surprised Archie has done so little. I still think it shouldn’t be a problem getting into those. Especially the AI winner.

    I think Cook and Kelly seem to be in the same situation right now. They have the material but the label won’t be releasing the album till early next year. And in Cook’s case I don’t think early next year means before March because the single won’t be out before January. With Kelly we’ll see because she talked about new single still this year, right? Or maybe I’m confused.
    Anyway, yeah, it doesn’t surprise me if they keep writing when they still have a few months to go. A new awesome song can always come up.

  33. From what I’m hearing, Adam is getting advice from some pros there who know the situation well.

    From what he said, perhaps not good enough advice. To say anything that suggests any degree of reluctance, however slight, in complying with the law is not good. Underneath the apparent calm in Malaysia, there is underlying tension and a wider conflict going on – I have read about for example churches being burnt and temples being attacked. He won’t want to get involve in other country’s cultural and political battle without knowing full well what is involved. He should be very careful in what he says, something that plays well in one country may not do so in another.

    I have to admit I’m a bit concerned seeing as in idol land delayed albums are usually followed by poor sales and label dropping.

    Archie is learning now how fast Idol fan base can fall away. Unless he can get a big hit or two straight off the bat with his next album, it won’t be good for David Cook the longer the release is delayed.

  34. Yup, these Idol fan bases seem to fall away quickly. That’s why it’s for vital to make new fans that connect with their genre. Anyone who is primarily selling to the Idol fans is dealing with a group that fades away with each new season.

    I’m not really following the Malaysia thing but I assume Adam is getting decent advice from 19 and/or his promoter. In general, it’s not a good thing to get involved in the politics of a nation you may not know much about.

  35. He has millions of teenage girl fans, who will buy anything that he releases.

    For everyone’s sake I hope he doesn’t launch a nuclear reactor line.

    ….I thought it was funny >_>.

    LOL not only can Nigel not stop blabbing about the judges to any media anywhere near him, he can’t keep his stories straight. What happened to yesterday’s JLo is the new Simon? I never paid any attention to behind the scenes stuff when Nigel was running the show before, but the peeps who called him an attention hoar weren’t lyin.

    Well, he’s gotta try to build up some hype and give American Idol some press. The judges are still relatively new (although some of us have known the rumors forever, the confirmation was new and the judges just started), so I’m sure he’d like to build buzz about the judges. I really would have elaborated on the J.Lo is the new Simon thing if I wanted the buzz. That seems unexpected and interesting enough to hype the judges for the viewers.

    Although I do agree it is kinda annoying at times :P.

  36. It sounds like Adam and his team are handling things just fine.

    I think Carrie is the only Idol who has a possibility of appearing on the AMA’s this year (with the exception of Lee who will get the standard presenter spot). Daughtry’s album has done well, but he hasn’t had the big CHR hits this time around that seem to be requirement for AMA attention.

  37. Yup, these Idol fan bases seem to fall away quickly. That’s why it’s for vital to make new fans that connect with their genre.

    I’m not sure if it can be said that Archie doesn’t connect with his genre, after all Crush is a bit hit, and I think many songs in his new album that are as catchy as Crush.

    The problem is the single – I must admit to being somewhat appalled when I first heard “Elevator”, it’s not about not liking a song (I dislike many songs that are hits), it’s just so obviously substandard as a song that I wonder why it was even considered as a single. It is even more puzzling when I heard the rest of the album and there are some songs there that would work much better as a single. I have really given up trying to understand how a label chooses a single.

    I thought the album would stink based on “Elevator”, but the album is actually not bad overall, better than his first one. If there is one big criticism about the album, it would be that many of the songs a bit too “message-y”. Might work well if he is in the Christian genre, but as pop, he should dial that back a little.

  38. I don’t think in Archie’s case is just fanbase leaving. The truth is that there’s no way most people will even know the album is out. He has no presence on radio, there is really no buzz, no promo whatsoever.
    I actually think Archie has a good enough fanbase and he could sell a little bit better if both singles hadn’t done so poorly or if he had even one bit of promo. The launch of this album is just terrible.

    I really don’t see the difference between waiting 2 years of 2 years and a half or whatever between albums. It comes down to the quality of the second album and how it gets out there, not the when.

  39. jpfan:
    I’m not really following the Malaysia thing but I assume Adam is getting decent advice from 19 and/or his promoter.

    I think it’s mainly from Sony officials in Kuala Lumpur, who of course have first-hand knowledge to base their advice on.

  40. leome:
    I actually think Archie has a good enough fanbase and he could sell a little bit better if both singles hadn’t done so poorly or if he had even one bit of promo. The launch of this album is just terrible.

    I agree! Unless there’s something coming we don’t know about yet, it’s like the label just threw Archie’s album at the wall to see if it would stick. :(

  41. I actually think Archie has a good enough fanbase and he could sell a little bit better if both singles hadn’t done so poorly or if he had even one bit of promo. The launch of this album is just terrible.

    I agree with this, and I’m not even a big fan of the album (although I give him credit for trying new things). A few people have posted that they don’t understand why the title track wasn’t the single, and I have to agree. Decent hook, allusive-to-prior-hit-without-being-directly-copied lyrics, and not processed for its own sake. Get that kid on a major TV show singing that song, along with some actual, measurable radio play, and I’m pretty sure a decent portion the fans would come back out of the woodwork. Without that, he’s sunk.

  42. I’m not sure if it can be said that Archie doesn’t connect with his genre, after all Crush is a bit hit, and I think many songs in his new album that are as catchy as Crush.

    I don’t think that Jive or Archie’s management have done a good job showing people what genre David fits in, or who his music is targeting. They have the whole SBL campaign that’s aimed at teens, but David’s style/persona and a lot of the music on the new album seems to be aimed at a much older audience. They did the same thing with the first album, Crush was aimed at the 12 to 25 crowd, and then they turned around and released a song that was better suited for someone who was much older than David, and that would not have been played by most of the stations that played Crush, which is why David’s first week album sales will be so low.

  43. Archie’s sales have falled off a cliff from his first album. It’s looking much worse that the usual 50/60% drop. Maybe the fact that Universal is now working w/Idol will afect label support. It doesn’t look like Jive is putting much effort into Archie right now. I’m not really sure what’s going on.

    It’ll be interesting to see how RCA deals with Cook. If he doesn’t get class A promo, we’ll know something bad is afoot.

  44. I agree with this, and I’m not even a big fan of the album (although I give him credit for trying new things). A few people have posted that they don’t understand why the title track wasn’t the single, and I have to agree. Decent hook, allusive-to-prior-hit-without-being-directly-copied lyrics, and not processed for its own sake.

    I agree. When I listened to the album on AOL, that was the track that stood out to me. Very nice song and I thought it was pop- friendly too. I just don’t know how these labels think. *sigh*

  45. I actually think Archie has a good enough fanbase and he could sell a little bit better if both singles hadn’t done so poorly or if he had even one bit of promo. The launch of this album is just terrible.

    I agree. I refuse to believe that the guy who packed a section of the Mall Of America with screaming teenage girls just a few months ago is suddenly horribly unpopular. If I wasn’t on this site, I would not know Archie had an album out, or even if I managed to find out I wouldn’t have a clue what any of it sounded like.

    I’m not saying he should be selling Beiber numbers, but if he had a song on the radio and decent promo he would certainly be doing much better than this. This is a launch/marketing fail and nothing more IMO. This is way worse than just a normal Idol drop.

  46. I don’t think what’s happened with Archie necessarily predicts what will happen with David Cook. DC had and most likely still has a larger fanbase than Archie. He is with RCA and Archie is with Jive. Cook doesn’t have Archie’s “identity” problems, of not fitting into a single genre. And how could the public forget David Cook with that Rainbow song still playing all over the place?
    I doubt any Idols are in trouble because of the switch to Universal. RCA has been great to Adam and also to Lee, so far. I don’t think they are going to fail to promote a talented singer who went platinum with his first album.

  47. Why is the label not promoting Archie? They promote what they think will bring enough returns to make it worthwhile. So, either they don’t think that Archie/his album are not worth it, or they are dragging their feet when it comes to backing idols.

  48. Maybe the fact that Universal is now working w/Idol will afect label support. It doesn’t look like Jive is putting much effort into Archie right now. I’m not really sure what’s going on.

    Personally… I think this had to do in part with not having a management team in place working with Jive. So in effect I believe Jive and Archie had a direct contribution to these numbers. He can turn this around once Jive and Management make the commitment. X-mas is just around the corner.

  49. Personally… I think this had to do in part with not having a management team in place working with Jive. So in effect I believe Jive and Archie had a direct contribution to these numbers. He can turn this around once Jive and Management make the commitment. X-mas is just around the corner.

    If that is the case, they should have pushed the album date until Management was in place and they had a game plan for promotion.

  50. . X-mas is just around the corner

    Archie’s album cover is adorable. If stores will display it, I’m sure his sales will pick up.

  51. DC had and most likely still has a larger fanbase than Archie. He is with RCA and Archie is with Jive. Cook doesn’t have Archie’s “identity” problems, of not fitting into a single genre.

    I agree with you 100%. So if Cook doesn’t have a good roll out and a decent opening week, I’ll actually be shocked and wonder if there is a bigger problem involving the label.

  52. If that is the case, they should have pushed the album date until Management was in place and they had a game plan for promotion.

    ITA.

  53. DC had and most likely still has a larger fanbase than Archie. He is with RCA and Archie is with Jive. Cook doesn’t have Archie’s “identity” problems, of not fitting into a single genre.

    While I agree that David knows his genre, and his first album reflects that, he and Archie do share the main problem of being out of the public eye for an extended period of time, and nobody knowing what they are up to. It also doesn’t bode well that out of the three songs that have received significant airplay, the one that has been spun the most, and the one that most people have heard and know is not one that reflects who David is as an artist. Just like Archie, David Cook doesn’t have name recognition beyond being from AI.

  54. I don’t think what’s happened with Archie necessarily predicts what will happen with David Cook. DC had and most likely still has a larger fanbase than Archie.

    Certainly not suggesting that David Cook will do as bad as that, just that the fall off of fans is something that will happen, the longer he waits to release the album, the greater will be the drop. David Cook will have the chance to promote his album on Idol, so that will at least remind those Idol fans who like him to get his album and give him a decent first week sales, but it will be nothing like what he got for his first album.

    I’m wondering if the it’s the age of fans – Archie’s fans are much younger, a couple of years is a long time to them, their taste changes rapidly and they are readier to go for the next thing that comes along.

  55. My guess is that Jive has gotten poor feedback from PD’s on David A’s new material. Radio appears to be rejecting all things Archuleta at the moment. And, I think he is cursed with the most fickle group of fans (that being the combo of AI fans and tweens).

    And I agree with Elliegirl that David Cook’s greatest obstacle may be the fact that his biggest hit is a song that is in no way a “David Cook song.”

    My guess is that Cook will have a MAJOR decline in sales compared to the first album; but he should still open with 75-100k.

  56. Why is the label not promoting Archie? They promote what they think will bring enough returns to make it worthwhile. So, either they don’t think that Archie/his album are not worth it, or they are dragging their feet when it comes to backing idols.

    I don’t think it’s just the label. There seems to be a management problem here. Regardless, it doesn’t look like the label is pushing the singles much on radio. IMO, the album is not very radio friendly. It’s neither “artistic” or “commercial”, it’s just almost commercial without really being it, so it’s an hard album to promote if you ask me.
    Having said this, I believe the label could have done better with SBL. It’s true Archie did promo on radio stations, but it’s like the bts work wasn’t happening. Or radio was just rejecting it.
    I don’t know why labels wouldn’t even try, maybe it’s a money thing?

    As for Cook with RCA, eh, I don’t trust RCA much to push singles either. I think Cook is in a bit of a better position with radio because of HAC, and all his singles have been top 10 on HAC, he gets support there, which it not bad, but you can never be sure and HAC may not play what comes next. Who knows? In Cook’s case I trust him more and the management.

  57. We have no way of knowing how Cook will open until we see the promo and hear the new single. I agree there will most likely be a decline in first week sales, but that’s the same for everyone in this economy.

    One thing Cook has that Archie didn’t have in terms of staying in the public eye is that he’s still getting significant radio play in his home format of HAC and also on AC. Even now, his 3 songs are generating 2400+ spins on the radio each week. Archie’s Crush was mainly a pop hit and although bigger than any of Cook’s singles, it dropped out of sight.

    Ultimately, it wont matter if Cook has 2 years or 2.5 years between albums. All he needs is a hit single and proper promotion and he’s back. The same could be said for any artist.

  58. Cook, like Daughtry and a hundred others, will have an album full of easy HAC hits. He may never see action on rock or alternative radio, sadly, but he can be a HAC staple.

  59. Considering DC opened with nearly 300,000 his first week back in 2008 I’m anticipating a massive decline for first week sales. He shares the same problem Archie has where I’m not so sure he gained the kind of fans outside of AI who will care enough to buy a CD 2 years after his first one. I actually think Archie has done a better job of staying visible with the Xmas album and book, DC has pretty much fallen off the radar EXCEPT he still gets some decent HAC airplay with his previous 3 songs. Having 3 Top 10 HAC hits I think will work in his favor a bit. I’m not exactly counting on RCA for huge promo either since they’ve done a shit job with him so far (except his initial launch). If you ask me, except for SNL his best promo has come from 19.

    In the meantime Lee is too damn cute on Twitter today <3 His excitement is adorable.

  60. At this point, I’m not even sure about Kelly getting 100k her first week anymore! Sad state of album sales.

  61. He shares the same problem Archie has where I’m not so sure he gained the kind of fans outside of AI who will care enough to buy a CD 2 years after his first one.

    Cook sold around 500k of his record from 2009 until now. Most of those were not only fans he picked up from AI. I think solid radio play and touring may have helped with that.

  62. That’s what I meant Trina, Cook opened so high with his debut, his decline will be major.

    I do think HAC is a VERY loyal format, and he won’t have much trouble getting adds and airplay.

  63. I’m guessing Lee was a big part of why Cook was pushed back. I’m OK with that as long as he gets some extra promotion, as he’s expected to release his album at the worst time of the year.

  64. At this point, I’m not even sure about Kelly getting 100k her first week anymore! Sad state of album sales.

    Yeah seriously. Cracking 100K is a big deal, you might not even get it if you have a hit song out.

  65. C

    ook sold around 500k of his record from 2009 until now. Most of those were not only fans he picked up from AI. I think solid radio play and touring may have helped with that.

    Between the end of 2009 and now, he sold about 50k, not 500k
    (1250K on 10/25/2009, 1230K on 05/09/20010)

  66. Kelly has been consistent with opening at least around 250k for four successive albums even outside of the holiday season. One of those albums just released last year. She’s always had a solid core that looks for her and her music even if all of her albums have ended differently in overall sales. Her next album’s opening week would be a good test of how the market is affecting sales. I’d be shocked if she only opened with 100k though. That would project more then a poor market, it would mean her fanbase had collapsed similiar to Christina’s.

  67. Even now, his 3 songs are generating 2400+ spins on the radio each week. Archie’s Crush was mainly a pop hit and although bigger than any of Cook’s singles, it dropped out of sight.

    I’m in neither Archie’s camp nor Cook’s camp. I was knee deep in diapers during S6 & S7. Watched the season for the most part, but didn’t listen to much radio during this time & certainly both fell off my radar. I lost like 2 years of radio listening. LOL I never heard Crush (*blushes*), but do hear Cook’s songs every few weeks still on the radio. I do see some validity in the statement, but how much of an impact this will make on future sales for cook. IDK. I guess at least his name is still out there. The reality is the same for him as it is for Archie. If he doesn’t get a hit on the radio, no one will know he is releasing.

  68. Springboard, I do not see where I said end of 2009. I said from 2009 after the Christmas AI rush was over. He was at 813K after Christmas 2008, he’s at 1.3 million+ now.

  69. Dave Cook has also done a great deal of cross-promotion with sporting events and programming, which could yield big returns when the new album comes out, assuming of course, that he gets massive promotion and a solid hit single to start the album ball rolling.

  70. Between the end of 2009 and now, he sold about 50k, not 500k
    (1250K on 10/25/2009, 1230K on 05/09/20010)

    I think she meant from January 2009 on.

    The reality is the same for him as it is for Archie. If he doesn’t get a hit on the radio, no one will know he is releasing.

    ITA. People have to hear music repeatedly, like it, then be reminded constantly that you have a record dropping if you want to attract more than the hardcores.

  71. Just curious, what cross-promotion has David done with sporting events? I’m a fan, but haven’t followed him closely in a while. That’s cool (I always thought he had a few songs on the album that would work), but somehow I missed this.

  72. Chicagolaw,

    Some of the highlights of Dave Cook’s sports connections:
    > TOML was one of the signature songs of the 2008 US Olympics and he performed it on Oprah with the US team.
    > Has ongoing relationship with KC Chiefs and KC Royals performing Anthems, occasional news articles/photos on Dave
    > Used Heroes and a info clip for ’09 ACC and SEC Basketball Tournaments
    > Performed Heroes and Declaration at ’09 Home Run Derby
    > Did some sportscasting on ESPN’s Baseball Tonight
    > Threw out first pitch at Mariner’s game
    > Appeared on Fox Sports Star Picks
    > ESPN2 used David’s song “One Second to Change Your Life” in Baseball Tonight montage
    > NBC used Heroes in Sports Championship series promos in 2010
    > Sang National Anthem at major league soccer’s Summer Kickoff in 2010
    > Performed America the Beautiful at 2010 US Open Men’s Finals

    Thanks to this DCO website:

  73. not sure about cross-promoting, but:
    *Time of My Life used in Summer Olympics and sung on Oprah with all the American medalists
    *Heroes used in Winter Olympics with Bode Miller montage
    *Heroes was used in a ton of sports advertising (for Stanley Cup, Wimbledon, Preakness, etc etc)
    *He sung Heroes at the big baseball home run derby thing
    *he performed (a whole show) after a huge soccer game in Utah
    *He’s appeared on Baseball Tonight to chat with the announcers
    *He’s performed the national anthem at several KC Royals and Chiefs games
    *the Chiefs regularly tweet and blog about him being a fan
    * he performed America the Beautiful at the US Open Mens Finals a few weeks ago
    *and will be in Chris Everett’s Celebrity Tennis Benefit (playing tennis!) next month.
    *his trainer says he punches like a heavyweight. what? not relevant? :P *still waiting on this video*
    I’m sure I’m forgetting something.

    ETA – too slow. oops.

  74. Thanks movin2thbeat, I guess I actually knew about a lot of these.

  75. oh I’m also of the opinion that David Cook writes anytime he has downtime. He’s a musician, that’s what they do! Being married to one, I also know they go through creative seasons of prolific writing and seasons of writer’s block.

  76. Matt is having a photo shoot in Nashville today. Here is a tweet and picture that was just posted.

    @davidmolnar Having a blast shooting American Idol’s @ImMattGiraud. He’s rockin’ it! #fb http://yfrog.com/74wjqj

    And Matt’s explanation for the purpose of the photo shoot:

    @ImMattGiraud
    Down in Nashville for a photo shoot for some upcoming exciting things! I have WAY 2 many outfits. haha working with the great @davidmolnar

    Matt looks great — I hope “upcoming exciting things” involve tunes we can buy.

  77. A snippet of a new song on Lee’s album:

    Rickey
    retweet by sunnydai_
    Exclusive Video: Lee DeWyze – Live It Up preview in the studio http://14.ly/byIRFS I’M SO EXCITED! THIS IS AMAZING! GO LEE! @leedewyze

    Marvellous! A glimpse into the song-making process!

    Rickey corrected himself – NOT Live it up but another song on the album! Dear Isabelle? Its also written with Tony Gad and Lindy Robbins!

  78. David Archuleta seems to be they only artist that JIVE has anywhere near the top of the charts now so they should be pushing him. It seems like the only JIVE artists that have done well selling their albums are USHER and PINK. They are already established artists. It does make you wonder about JIVE.

  79. I think sometimes we tend to mix up what the labels and the management. I’m pretty sure that Jive pushed SBL to stations, because if they didn’t there is no way that Jive would have known that PDs weren’t interested in playing the song. I think that Jive messed up with his first album, but it’s not like it is easy to promote David, mainly because of his age, but this time around, I think the blame lies mainly with David’s management/marketing team.

  80. i would just like to add that any time mj puts out news about Archie she sets the blog on fire. i don’t know if this is any indication of his popularity…we already discussed his twitter following of nearly half-million. it was David who was asked to help out during the Haiti earthquake telethon amongst the world’s most famed celebrities as well as the Stand Up 2 Cancer fundraiser. i could go on. plenty of people adore this little guy. and still it doesn’t translate to sales. go figure.

  81. David Archuleta seems to be they only artist that JIVE has anywhere near the top of the charts now so they should be pushing him

    If P!nk is on Jive, she has a new song released. Raise your glass had 108 adds in top 40 today… yeah 108 not a typo. Jive is doing something, somewhere.

  82. Pink is on LaFace Records which is, I believe, under Jive Label Group, vs. Jive Records which is label under the Jive Label Group.

  83. Archie is a teenager who works hard at being accepted by a conservative straight laced segment of our society. His belief structure and his innate sensibilities position him as the “do good” kid. And I think he and his team have worked really hard to make sure he is seen as someone who is a different voice from many of the pop stars of today.

    But as nice and kind and sweet and huggable as David is…he is a hard sale to a lot of peeps who are into more edgy type personalities and singers. I know his fans loved that he wrote a book…but that little exercise has left him the butt of many a joke and an odd look (who has experienced enough to write a memoir at 18, they say). And his new album being full of “inspirational” type songs and being marketed to a secular audience doesn’t seem to be jellin…many teen and young adults want to at least feel like they are sowing their wild oats and for many just listening to a bit of a wild song is the closest they will come…but that is fun and slightly daring for many. And Archie is just too safe.

    Archie needs to back away from pop and market to a different audience. He will never be a Justin (Bieber or Timberlake). And nothing wrong with that.

  84. who has experienced enough to write a memoir at 18, they say

    The fetus is writing one. LOL Probably titled “my life at middle school”

  85. Well,David was just signed by WEG management a few weeks ago. They also manage Justin Timberlake and a lot of other high profile artists. They must think he has some potential or else they would have not wanted to manage him. As far as JIVE goes I still say they have not done that great of a job with any Idols that they have signed to their label. I agree that David’s management was not good before but it is now.

  86. Chicagolaw:
    10/12/2010 at 9:23 am
    Seems like Cook is doing some serious writing again. Only speculation, but for whatever reason, I would guess the label sent him back for additional material. They better get behind him when it comes to release time; they owe him some major promo at this point.

    I actually wish this was the case because he’s primarily been writing with Neal. I would be over the moon if the label said, “We really like the whole Cook/Tiemann vibe. Let’s scrap some of these other cowrites so you can write more with your bandmate.” If only. But I doubt it. He’s got time on his hands, he’s probably feeling inspired lately writing with Neal, so why not go with it and see what happens. I would imagine he’d have to sell the new tunes to the label if he really believes in them. They definitely owe him some major promo, in any case, though I don’t feel the warm fuzzies for the Sony family seeing how Archie’s relaunch has been handled. Should be interesting.

  87. I have to agree with Tess. I’m a fan of Clay Aiken. I’m not a fan of David A, but his singing style is similar to Clay’s. Clay’s fans always felt promotion for Clay was awful. You never heard Clay on the radio either. When Clay left RCA, he said they tried their best, but they were a “rock” label and they just didn’t know what to do with him. I don’t know about Jive. Do they lean toward hip-hop and R&B? If so, he may be in a similar situation.

  88. Regardless, it doesn’t look like the label is pushing the singles much on radio. IMO, the album is not very radio friendly. It’s neither “artistic” or “commercial”, it’s just almost commercial without really being it, so it’s an hard album to promote if you ask me.

    I just don’t think Archie has a pop persona, although maybe he thinks he does? Well, who knows what he thinks …. but anyway … I think the sooner he shifts to his “artistic” side and gets with a label that promotes singers in that way, the better off he’ll be. I know that a lot of people think he can succeed in the pop realm because of all the tween fans he had, but I’ve just never seen it. He has never looked to me as if his heart was in selling himself as a pop guy or playing into what I think are most pop fans’ expectations of a solo guy singer — that he be the fans’ fantasy sweetheart. That seems very non-David-A, to me.

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