Idol Headlines for 09/06/10

According to Zap2it, the Glee cast will perform “Proud Mary” on the Jerry Lewis MDA telethon, which airs through 3 pm PDT today. Check your local listings for time and channel.

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R Kelly super fan gets arrested
R Kelly super fan gets arrested

David Cook is still working on his album. He tweeted yesterday, “hope everyone is having a fantastical Sunday. working on a cool song idea with @MrRaineMaida”

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Adam Lambert’s third single in Australia will be “For Your Entertainment”. Adam will be headed down under–part of his international tour–for a sold out shows in October.

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More Headlines after the JUMP…

Mixed feelings about Kara leaving “Idol”

A commenter on this very Web site had a funny response to the wire story we posted about Kara DioGuardi’s departure from the “American Idol” judges panel – “This show went the way of the buffalo the minute it went from talent to drama.”

What’s interesting is that this is the only comment, because there was a time where just typing the words “American Idol” on a blog netted you at leaat 10 immediate comments – five “I love what happened!” three “I hate what happened, ” one “Who cares about this show?” and one yelling at the guy who says he didn’t care about caring enough to comment in the first place.

Read more at PBPulse.com

NL Interview: American Idol’s Katie Stevens Wants Christina Aguilera/Kelly Clarkson Sound On Album

We caught up with Katie backstage at the now-wrapped Idols Live tour concert stop in Baltimore, MD a few weeks ago and got the dirt on her debut album’s direction, keeping her options open in her career, and the biggest surprise she’s encountered on the tour.

Read more at Neon Limelight

Lee Dewyze meets fans in a Chicago ice cream shop on Sunday –

Rumor has it he was filming something for Idol. Via TweetSweetTara:

So Lee was back in MP shooting something for AI, which is how I met him. He didn’t get swarmed just going to eat lunch. He wasn’t even supposed to say hi to his fans but of course he did. He shot in several different locations. I just stayed for one which was on the train tracks. He was very nice and they were in a rush to get to the next place. He said he was very excited for the 24th! :) Got a lot of pictures and obviously my arm signed. Didn’t know I was going to see him! There was a lot of security around and film crew.

Star in Cape Town to film Winnie

Multi-award winning US singer and movie star Jennifer Hudson left Cape Town this week after a 10-week movie shoot in South Africa.

Hudson, 28, was in the country to work on the film Winnie in which she plays Winnie Madikizela-Mandela in a biopic about the life of the former wife of Nelson Mandela.

Her co-star, playing Mandela, is Oscar-nominee Terrence Howard.

Read more at Tonight.co.za

Photo via @JHudDaily

TIME BOMB: X Factor Won’t Be on ITV Screens Next Year As Simon Cowell Focuses On US Fox Launch

ITV bosses have been quietly looking for shows to replace its Saturday night ratings juggernaut next year. Cowell and his Syco production company are concentrating on next year’s Fox launch. X Factor’s disappearance until autumn 2012 will blow a hole in ITV’s ratings. This weekend the show celebrated its highest ratings of the series yet – peaking with 12.5 million watching. Saturday’s show was watched by an average 10.6 million UK viewers — compared with 9.8 million the week before. Last year’s X Factor contributed an estimated £100 million in producers Talkback Thames and Syco will tell me is that they are looking at a number of options going forward. “It is a ticking time bomb, ” one ITV insider says.

Read more at Deadline London

John Stamos on Glee – First Look

Scope out this first still of John Stamos as dentist Dr. Carl Howell giving Matthew Morrison’s Mr. Schuester a check-up in Season 2’s second episode of Glee — the Britney Spears ep!!!

Stamos, 47, will also play the beau of OCD guidance counselor Emma (Jayma Mays). Carl will also be administering anesthesia to Rachel, Artie, Brittany and Santana, inspiring a dreamy sequence that will take them into the world of Brit Brit.

Read more and see the photo at Just Jared:

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159 Comments

  1. Very few people could match J.R. Ewing as most hated person on TV but Kara comes real close. Why else would Idol announce her “Quitting” @ 8:00 pm Friday night Labor day weekend? Because just by saying that she’s no longer with the show would open a floodgate of negative comment’s not only about Kara but also about American Idol too. It doesn’t take much research to see how much people are tired of this show. Just read the comments and see. And the only “mixed feelings” I have are happy and bored.

    A quote from the Kara article. I think this sums it up pretty darn good.

  2. Katie Stevens is planning her debut album? Has she been signed? How did I miss this? Or is she thinking wishfully?

  3. From Neon Limelight.. link above. MJ please delete if there is too much quoted here.

    KS: Yeah. I actually started writing and I’ve been meeting with a bunch of writers trying to work on having stuff prepared so that if I get confronted by a record company or management or something that I’ll have stuff prepared. I’m really excited about the stuff I’ve come up with. It’s kind of like a Christina Aguilera fusion with Kelly Clarkson type of album…

    I found this quote really interesting. How does someone coming off idol (especially a minor not already in the biz), without management or a contract hook up with writers. I believe that she is doing this, I just wonder who is running the show from behind the scenes.

    Note to Katie: A Kelly/Xtina fusion might not be great for you (despite my love of both). IDK what would be.. but a fusion of 2 fabulous singers probably past their height in popularity might not be a good model for you. No worries though.. if you do get signed, I suspect the label will re-vamp you anyway.

  4. weareallinnocent:
    09/06/2010 at 9:57 am
    Katie Stevens is planning her debut album? Has she been signed? How did I miss this? Or is she thinking wishfully?

    I think it’s a lot of wishfull thinking on her part. Sorry but she’s no Christina or Kellie. She’s just another Idol finalist in a long line of Idol singers, who think just because they made it to the top ten, that they are going to be signed to a contract. But then again, Michael Sarver got a contract, so anything is possible.

  5. Michael’s contract is turning out to be more indie-like than it seemed at first when they touting it with the UMG tie-in.

    He even used the word “indie” to describe it in a tweet recently… His situation confuses me. Someone working with him was able to get him some decent connections for songs, etc., and a little exposure on GAC and CMT, but doesn’t seem to have been any logical follow-through. Maybe it is too much of a disadvantage that he is staying in Texas trying to break into the country scene but you’d think he would at least be out trying to work the country music clubs and radio outlets in Texas. Perhaps he’s waiting for some reason, but then why do a video for a single that’s not being put up for radio in any serious way. Confusing, not to mention the Christmas album unless he is just throwing over the country idea entirely and going into the Christian market where Dream Records might have better ties for him.
    ETA: Another possibility, maybe the Christmas album is tied to his thinking about some holiday season concerts? He did do that holiday tour with some other former AI finalists last year, had forgotten that.

  6. I think Katie has a lot of “Disney” potential so I could see her getting signed and promoted as a teen star. I wouldn’t be surprised if we see her popping up on some Disney shows like ICarly, etc. I think she would embrace that role, as opposed to Archie, who wanted to steer clear of the Disney label.

  7. I don’t remember Katie’s singing that well, but I could see her being the type of finalist to try getting acting or tv host jobs in addition to singing, maybe aimed at a young audience. The phrasing of that quote was a little funny though, about being prepared in case she was “confronted by” a record label–as if they would be chasing her down in a parking lot or something ;) Hopefully she, and all of them really, has some type of representation seeking opportunities for her.

  8. I found this quote really interesting. How does someone coming off idol (especially a minor not already in the biz), without management or a contract hook up with writers. I believe that she is doing this, I just wonder who is running the show from behind the scenes.

    Aren’t most writers independent contractors? So, if someone has the cash writers are willing to submit, write and/or collaborate (cough) on a song.

  9. I think Katie has a lot of “Disney” potential so I could see her getting signed and promoted as a teen star. I wouldn’t be surprised if we see her popping up on some Disney shows like ICarly, etc. I think she would embrace that role, as opposed to Archie, who wanted to steer clear of the Disney label.

    I think 19 has been going after that market and I can also see Katie filling that bill. She has the girl next door vibe going for her. I had thought there were some early attempts to build Allison in that market?

    BTW, I see that Allison’s page on Wikipedia says her tenure with Jive was from 2009-2010. It mentions that on Sep 5, 2010, Allison was removed from Jive’s artist roster. But right before that, they quote an interview from Jul where Allison talked about her vision of what she wanted her second album to be.

    Jive likely wanted to cushion the blow of this kind of news by making the change over a holiday weekend. I’m sure we will be hearing reactions from her Idol friends in the few days.

  10. I love Allison and bought her album, although I haven’t listened to it much. I don’t know if they ever tried to market Allison as a Disney star, if they did, it didn’t seem go go anywhere.

    I think Katie has a better shot with the Disney audience as I see it as something she would embrace. I actually recall a couple of good performances by Katie (but don’t ask me to name them! LOL) so I think she can sing just as well if not better than the current crop of Disney teens out there.

    Allison, to me, is like Archie, not quite the right fit for Disney. Allison seems too street smart to fit the squeeky clean image of a Disney teen and Archie seems to be too old of a soul to go down that path.

  11. Jive likely wanted to cushion the blow of this kind of news by making the change over a holiday weekend. I’m sure we will be hearing reactions from her Idol friends in the few days.

    I’m sure it must be hard on the GN tour. I know Allison and Adam are close. I am now hoping for the last few shows together, Allison and Adam duet on something. He could bring her out on his set and they could do something together (not slow ride). I know he adores her and perhaps they will do a duet for his next album.

    I think Allison’s future is fronting a band. I think she can come back and do well.

  12. according to some locals on twitter- the filming of Lee at the icecream parlor is actually something for AI. wonder what it is exactly.
    EDIT: VictoryLiquors (the place where Lee used to sing and hang at b4) tweeted: http://twitter.com/VictoryLiquors/status/23101711475
    So i guess theyre making some sorta short doco after his win?!
    And the question about Katie and the writers she has met with..well we do know she’s been writing with David Hodges. theyve both tweeted about it several times during the tour.

  13. I think 19 has been going after that market and I can also see Katie filling that bill. She has the girl next door vibe going for her.

    Have you seen the clothes Katie Stevens wore on the tour? She certainly doesn’t want to be the girl next door. There is something that’s basically disconnected about her – what she wants to be and what her ought to be seem entirely opposite.

    It’s just another of those weird things with Season 9, many of the contestants don’t appear to know their appeal is or what the hell they are doing. I’m pretty sure she was put through because she had that Disney pop princess look (must be another of those Kara’s total package things), but she wants to be someone with an older and sexier look singing more mature songs. Why did she try out on idol so young if she wants to do something more suitable for someone older? She seems clueless as to why she was chosen in the show or how she could fit in with the current pop scene.

  14. Kelly and Christina are both great singers so Katie has good taste. Vocally she’s not their peer, but she can sing better than Miley or Britney. All she needs is another break and she’s young, so why not dream? She kind of reminds me of a more wholesome Katy Perry.

  15. I know he adores her and perhaps they will do a duet for his next album.

    I know Adam and Allison are close, but the best thing for her career at this point is to go out and establish her own identity. That’s the only way Allison will ever gain credibility as a solo artist, as well as to break out of the little sister role that she has been typecast with.

    It’s ironic, every season there is an Idol that gets dropped from their contract. And I remember all the hope and optimism a year and half ago when Allison was signed. But it just brings home the hard core reality that it is a very fast changing business. And it’s not just about being a good singer.

  16. I am now hoping for the last few shows together, Allison and Adam duet on something. He could bring her out on his set and they could do something together (not slow ride). I know he adores her and perhaps they will do a duet for his next album.

    Not to be overly harsh, but I don’t think it should fall on Adam’s shoulders to revive Allison’s career. Dueting should be a win win for both sides and I don’t think an Allison, Adam duet on his album would be real beneficial for him. I think if he duets it needs to be with someone who has their own fan base who he can get some marketing from.

    The recording industry is a killer industry. It’s nice to be altruistic and forever caring in real life…but if you want to make it in this dog eat dog industry you have to be able to watch out for yourself and do what is best for your own career before you shoulder the responsibility of someone else. Allison had more chances than the average guy…she got several songs released, a re-recording with Orinthia, TV promo, a video, good song-writers and some good PR and she still hasn’t broken through.

    I think it is time to say good-bye for Allison for awhile….and if she works hard and is lucky she may have this opportunity again down the road, if she discovers who she is. We don’t need another Pink, or Janice, or Heart…we have those.

  17. revcat:
    09/06/2010 at 11:17 am
    Kelly and Christina are both great singers so Katie has good taste. Vocally she’s not their peer, but she can sing better than Miley or Britney. All she needs is another break and she’s young, so why not dream? She’s kind of reminds me of a more wholesome Katy Perry.

    Katie is no different than what’s already out there in Disney’s herd of interchangeable teen singers. She’s the All-American girl next door, wholesome and sweet, and nothing memorable.

  18. Yeah. What’s going on with David Cooks record? First he was going to drop in the spring, then summer, then fall. Now it looks like he won’t be releasing till sometime next year. What happened? He has been writing for basically over a year. And now he is writing again. It’s dissapointing that he won’t have product out this year. I wish he would say something about what is going on. Instead of people being left to wonder if something went wrong with the label.

  19. WRT Cook, it either seems like the label couldn’t get behind the earlier stuff he submitted and asked him to keep working on it, or they decided he would have a better shot launching in the new year. Maybe he’ll have better promotion opportunities when it’s not as competitive as the fall season, and certainly there would be a spot on Idol for him. Maybe he’ll get the boot song this year.

  20. What’s going on with David Cooks record? First he was going to drop in the spring, then summer, then fall. Now it looks like he won’t be releasing till sometime next year. What happened?

    I’ve heard some rumors, but don’t know if they are really true or not, that DC’s label wasn’t happy with some of the earlier songs he worked on and that he and his co-writers had to go back to the drawing composing board.

  21. Seriously? They were not happy with his songs? That doesn’t make a lot of sense. Because the only people he has said he is writing with are Neal, Andy and Raine. And he has already written with them so if the label is not happy why is he writing with the same people?

  22. Re Allison. Anyone can edit wiki, and the edit referenced above sounds exactly like that’s what happened.

    Not that I’m overly hopeful, just not attaching a lick of significance to an edited wiki page.

    And, yeah, yo Cookie! Give us a crumb or two!

  23. I’ve heard some rumors, but don’t know if they are really true or not, that DC’s label wasn’t happy with some of the earlier songs he worked on and that he and his co-writers had to go back to the drawing composing board.

    Those aren’t rumours I’ve seen on any of the Cook/Idol boards I’ve read at, so they must be pretty far under cover. It would actually make sense if you look at what’s going on from one angle though. I just doubt that with material co-written with quite a few top writers, they didn’t like anything that was produced and , if they really weren’t happy with the material, I would have thought the re-writes would happen before they got into the studio.

    But that kind of gossip is exactly the reason someone needs to say something in the Cook camp about what is going on…

  24. Being on AI gives the contestants the opportunity to network/make connections with a lot of potential writing partners, producers, etc. It’s up to them to take advantage of these opportunities, which is what it sounds like Katie is doing. I know last season, both Anoop and Matt G talked about all the people they had met, for instance. I would guess that 19 helps them a little bit with making these connections, but in the end, if they aren’t already signed, then it’s up to the contestants to follow through on these opportunities.

  25. Even if his album doesn’t drop, I would be surprised if David Cook doesn’t at least release his new single before the end of the year.

  26. Yesterday there were a number of tweets from people on tour with Allison that indicate something is up.

    Terrance Dlibra RT this old Adam Lambert tweet:

    TerranceDlibra RT adamlambert @allisoniraheta can outsing any of the other teenagers in the recording industry right now. Like, sing circles around them.
    5:13 PM Dec 3rd, 2009 via Echofon
    Retweeted by you, TerranceDlibra, and 100+ others

    There were also tweets from a couple of Alli’s band members. Seems like there is more going on than a webpage redesign.

  27. I have heard one totally unverified rumor that might be of interest re. Cook’s album…but take it for what it is, gossip. Basically it is that he has been working with Erin Mccarley one a few songs. I know he admires her. He is so gifted singing harmony that a duet would be awesome.

  28. But that kind of gossip is exactly the reason someone needs to say something in the Cook camp about what is going on…

    ITA — seems like David should at least give fans an idea of what is going on regarding the release schedule. The vacuum of info will just breed more rumors. Clearly, he has recorded a lot of material. I seem to recall a couple of tweets about the recording sessions going well.

    Most of these rumors seem to have no fact behind them and are just fan guesses.

  29. ITA — seems like David should at least give fans an idea of what is going on regarding the release schedule. The vacuum of info will just breed more rumors. Clearly, he has recorded a lot of material. I seem to recall a couple of tweets about the recording sessions going well.

    I also believe that these so called “rumours” are pure speculation on the part of some fans. Kelly is also in the studio working on her album with an original rumoured Q4 release. She has also been very positive about her album, but has not let any of the fans know about the potential release date. My guess is that RCA does not want them giving out any of that info.

  30. And, yeah, yo Cookie! Give us a crumb or two!

    Even a piece of a crumb? Please?

  31. Re. Katie Stevens. I know that she did some co-writing with David Hodges and that he was gushing about their sessions all over twitter. He is a pretty prominent songwriter in the AI stable, so I’m not sure if 19 is taking her under their wing until she finds a label, or if her family just has really deep pockets.

  32. It’s ironic, every season there is an Idol that gets dropped from their contract. And I remember all the hope and optimism a year and half ago when Allison was signed. But it just brings home the hard core reality that it is a very fast changing business. And it’s not just about being a good singer.

    Someone a few months ago posted a list of idols and the labels that dropped them. As I recall it was more than one that were dropped each year. There were 4 signed in S8, just by the averages, I’d expect one more to be dropped at some point. (Oh, and don’t ask me who, I really have no opinions on this.)

    Does someone have this list?

  33. Someone a few months ago posted a list of idols and the labels that dropped them. As I recall it was more than one that were dropped each year. There were 4 signed in S8, just by the averages, I’d expect one more to be dropped at some point.

    Down the road, who knows. But at this point, I think Adam, Kris and Danny are all safe bets to have second albums. They all are talking about them, and as far as I know, have good support from their labels.

  34. Does anyone follow Tim on twitter? Supposedly he’s talking about releasing an EP?

  35. Kelly is also in the studio working on her album with an original rumoured Q4 release. She has also been very positive about her album, but has not let any of the fans know about the potential release date. My guess is that RCA does not want them giving out any of that info.

    Yeah, but there have also been leaks, and she’s been doing some touring, even internationally, and more recently than Cook’s monster/marathon tour.

    I just don’t know what’s up with Cook’s album, in terms of when it’s going to be released. And yeah, I’m a little impatient, I freely admit to that. I always say, I’ll be patient in my next lifetime. Plus David Cook working with Claude Kelly? I’m intrigued. Cavallo not producing, makes me happy as well. So I want more info! gosh darn it.

  36. WHOA

    ginaorr

    #Hey tweeters, I’m no longer at 19…have left to start my own company and manage @crystalbowersox 5 minutes ago via web

    So Crystal won’t be managed by 19…

  37. ginaorr

    #Hey tweeters, I’m no longer at 19…have left to start my own company and manage @crystalbowersox 5 minutes ago via web

    So Crystal won’t be managed by 19…

    WHOA is right!!! What’s really going on?

    ETA: It will be intresting to see how this works out for Crystal without 19 backing but I guess Gina has her own networking contacts by working for 19.

  38. poporange:
    09/06/2010 at 2:04 pm
    Yeah Adam,Danny and KRis Allen are safe for now as they all have second cds coming. I think Adam of the three is the safest because with out the Ai connection the second cd how it does is very important. IDK how much patience Jive has .ETA Yes Jive does back Kris for now t.Not saying the label will drop any of them I just think there not on as stable ground as some may think.

    The Sophomore album for every artist is important, not just for those coming off of American Idol. Yeah Adam is by far in the safest position heading toward his second album. RCA know they have a star in Adam. JIVE seems to have dropped Allison as a artist on their label. As for Kris, he needs to make a better selling second album.

  39. I think Gina Orr was the head of p.r. for 19. She was definitely the point p.r. person for Kris and Allison. She had tweeted stuff about Lee and Crystal this summer, so she likely would have been their main p.r. person as well

  40. I thought Kris’s person stayed with him, although I’m probably having a brain misfire on that one.

    ETA: Then she is the one that kept jacking up Kris’s PR announcements.

  41. Didn’t Allison and Kris work with Gina? For some read
    I always thought she was a jive person not 19. Interesting

  42. Adam’s going to be on the Kidd Kraddick show tomorrow:

    KiddKraddick

    Adam Lambert is in studio with us on KiddTV tmrw (Tuesday) morning at 10am central time. Click the KiddTV tab on… http://fb.me/HlyZNN8R about 1 hour ago via Facebook

  43. Yeah, but there have also been leaks, and she’s been doing some touring, even internationally, and more recently than Cook’s monster/marathon tour.

    The leaks are from one single time that a hacker got into her computer, and it seems like got all of her demos from the Breakaway era till then. They are slowly being released on the internet, but they are all from one source. A lot of them are not meant for her album, since Kelly said she has been doing a lot of writing for other people as well. She has definitely been mum on any potential release date of the album recently, even though she has been asked. What would the harm be in her mentioning the potential release quarter, except that RCA does not want her to do it.

  44. Did Gina work with anyone before Kris and Allison? With Allison (it seems) being dropped, and at least some questioning I’ve read here whether Kris has had the right amount/type of label support to reach his full potential, maybe Gina got dropped in the Jive changes and is going out on her own.

    Interesting with Crystal. I would have thought 19M would have the option to keep her, unless they just didn’t think it would work. It’s not like through Jive she’s signed to a country label or other format that they don’t usually work with.

  45. I think Allison’s future is fronting a band. I think she can come back and do well.

    I agree. This really worked for Carly Smithson, who had trouble developing her own “sound” as a solo artist. She has mad vocals and I hoped she’d make the final 3 or 4 on AI-7, but half way through the season I could see her struggle to get a viable, marketable musical point of view across. With We Are the Fallen, she fronts an amazing band with experienced, well-connected musicians. Allison always seemed too mature to be marketed to teens, musically and in appearance. Fronting a rock band could be a great opportunity for her.

  46. She might have gotten a promotion, but earlier this year Gina was the Vicep President of PR for 19, so she worked with everyone. She personally sent out tweets about Allison, Archie, Crystal, Lee and Kris, but her title meant that she handled PR for anyone who was signed to 19M. I guess this means that 19M won’t be signing Crystal, which isn’t a bad thing, but I don’t know if Gina’s work at 19 make her the best choice. I also can’t help but wonder how much will Jive and 19R do for Crystal. Unless they make a change, her sound isn’t exactly commercial, not that that’s a bad thing, she can be marketed, just not in the usual ways.

  47. Gina got dropped in the Jive changes and is going out on her own.

    Gina is part of 19M so any changes internal to Jive would not affect her status. I take that she just decided to move on since 19 overall is going through a lot of changes as well. The fact that she was allowed to take a 19 artist with her may say a lot for her actual clout at 19M. I wonder who is backing her new company.

  48. maybe Gina got dropped in the Jive changes and is going out on her own.

    Gina used to work for Jive, years ago, but for the past few years she’s been working for 19.

    <blockquoteThe fact that she was allowed to take a 19 artist with her may say a lot for her actual clout at 19M. I read that as meaning that Simon Fuller didn’t want to sign Crystal to a management contract, and considering that she’s more of a niche artist, that is understandable. Whoever manages Crystal can’t rely on the usual outlets that 19 has used to promote those who’s style of music is easily found on the radio. There’s an audience for Crystal’s music, but they usually don’t find out about artists like her by listening to the radio.

  49. girlygirl:
    09/06/2010 at 2:31 pm

    I think Gina Orr was the head of p.r. for 19. She was definitely the point p.r. person for Kris and Allison. She had tweeted stuff about Lee and Crystal this summer, so she likely would have been their main p.r. person as well

    I thought Roger Wydnowski was head of US Promotion at 19E? I see articles that said he received that title in 2007 when he left RCA. Gina’s listed as a VP for Publicity for 19, but I know she never worked with Adam. She had Kris and Allison.

  50. Lane left 19 to manage Adam and now Gina is starting her own company with Crstal as one of her clients. It’s going to be intereting to see how this will work out for Crystal. As for 19, they are great to have in your corner if they like you, but if they don’t they will not lift finger to help you or your career. Maybe this is a good move for her or it could end up being a disaster.

  51. Gina is part of 19M so any changes internal to Jive would not affect her status. I take that she just decided to move on since 19 overall is going through a lot of changes as well. The fact that she was allowed to take a 19 artist with her may say a lot for her actual clout at 19M. I wonder who is backing her new company.

    I don’t think this speaks to her clout. If they really wanted Crystal they would have kept her. Perhaps Crystal and 19 had a difference of opinion on how to more forward. I hope this is the case with Crystal because I don’t think this is a good move unless she felt she was backed up against a wall. I think Crystal will be missing out on a lot of promo opportunities.

  52. Simon Fuller left 19 a few months ago, so I’m sure there has been a shake up going on the last few months.

  53. I don’t think this speaks to her clout. If they really wanted Crystal they would have kept her. Perhaps Crystal and 19 had a difference of opinion on how to more forward. I hope this is the case with Crystal because I don’t think this is a good move unless she felt she was backed up against a wall. I think Crystal will be missing out on a lot of promo opportunities.

    I think that depends on what type of connections and contacts Gina has. There were not a lot of fans who were impressed by her, but she worked for 19, and had to follow their rules. Maybe she will do things differently now that she is out on her own. She has contacts from when she worked at Jive, so it’s not like she doesn’t have experience in the industry.

    As for 19, they are great to have in your corner if they like you, but if they don’t they will not lift finger to help you or your career.

    They aren’t obligated to sign anyone to a management contract, even if they sign them to a recording contract, like they did with Danny Gokey.

  54. Well, whatever happened with Gina and Crystal, hopefully it was amicable with 19 and not something that will interfere with Crystal coming back on AI10 with her new music, or anything like that.

    Are there precedents for the runner-up not being with 19M right off the bat? I know some of them worked with non-19M management later on.

    ETA: Danny’s case is somewhat different, and now Casey’s. 19M doesn’t really handle country acts, with the except of Carrie dating back to quite a few AI seasons ago. The only other slightly country-ish act on the 19M roster last I checked was Elvis ;) So it makes sense that the signed AI performers heading into the country music world hook up with a Nashville-based firm. Not sure in Casey’s case, he seemed last I read to be possibly going a different route, but still not 19M.

  55. Bridgette12

    I don’t think Lane left 19 — I think they just told her she could continue to work with Adam, rather than move over to one of the S9 people. Same thing with Lizzie continuing to work with Kris

  56. bridgette12:
    09/06/2010 at 2:52 pm

    Lane left 19 to manage Adam and now Gina is starting her own company with Crstal as one of her clients. It’s going to be intereting to see how this will work out for Crystal. As for 19, they are great to have in your corner if they like you, but if they don’t they will not lift finger to help you or your career. Maybe this is a good move for her or it could end up being a disaster.

    Lane didn’t leave 19 to manage Adam. She still works for 19 as far as I know. Adam hasn’t left 19 Management. Lane is his day-to-day manager, she just didn’t move on to the newest Idol runner-up. Adam’s major publicity has still had Roger Wydnowski’s name on it.

  57. I read that as meaning that Simon Fuller didn’t want to sign Crystal to a management contract, and considering that she’s more of a niche artist, that is understandable.

    Nope, I meant she was held in high regard at 19 but your reasoning is sound. (sorry watching Star Trek with my nephew, go Spock)

  58. jamaica168:
    09/06/2010 at 2:57 pm
    Simon Fuller left 19 a few months ago, so I’m sure there has been a shake up going on the last few months.

    Simon is still with 19, his title and responsibilities are just different since he sold 19 to CKX. It was Simon Fuller who gave most of the talking points a few weeks back when he switched AI’s partnership from Sony to UMG.

  59. Hmm, Crystal is going to be managed by a brand-new company instead of 19, she’s delaying her album to the spring, and so far has not shown much of a willingness to work on it since she came off tour, but instead has tweeted on playing the old dive bars she used to frequent. Interesting.

    I do recall that Nikki (from season 1) never put out an album because she tussled with the record company too much. I could see this going much the same way.

  60. I think that depends on what type of connections and contacts Gina has. There were not a lot of fans who were impressed by her, but she worked for 19, and had to follow their rules. Maybe she will do things differently now that she is out on her own. She has contacts from when she worked at Jive, so it’s not like she doesn’t have experience in the industry.

    I’m sure she has plenty of experience and connections.. my point was that this isn’t ‘Jerry Maguire’ VP don’t just walk out the door with clients because they are contracted with the parent company, not the PR person. 19 must have been willing to let her leave for whatever reason.

  61. Are there precedents for the runner-up not being with 19M right off the bat? I know some of them worked with non-19M management later on.

    David Archuleta never signed with 19M.

    I think Simon Fuller would sign anyone, regardless of genre, if he thought that it could make him some money. It’s not like he has dozens or artists that he has to deal with.

  62. fadetowhite:
    09/06/2010 at 12:15 pm
    I would have thought the re-writes would happen before they got into the studio.

    Yeah, I seriously doubt any songwriting he’s doing now falls into the category of label mandated rewrites. It doesn’t fit the timeline as we know it, and these are his own musical compadres rather than label darlings he’s talking about now. (Well that, and Paper Heart was well received and in response tubey vids of it were pulled by the label pretty vigorously and doggedly for a supposedly disinterested party, but I digress.)

    Let’s see, what we know..early on the RCA A&R guy Carlson was tweeting about new Cook demos he heard coming out of the label arranged songwriting sessions, seemed pretty excited about them, blah blah blah. Makes sense. I have a hard time believing some representative of the label did not hear the demos well before the studio time was scheduled. That’s typically the way it works, right? Anyway, following the timeline, after stockpiling a crapload of new demos which for argument’s sake I assume someone at RCA had sampled and sorted through and earmarked for recording, Dave and the boys went into the studio starting in late June/early July. For a solid month or two a host of people involved in the recording process (Dave, band members, Serlectic’s Emblem Studios) were tweeting and vlogging away with studio updates, first batch done, etc etc. Things were definitely chugging along on a steady basis and all signs pointed to a late fall release. And then the updates stopped. Pretty suddenly. And Dave’s studio tweets were replaced by tweets about boredom and random stuff, and now he’s writing new songs seemingly on his own with his band and Raine, people near and dear to his pre-Idol musical heart. Sure seemed like David’s management had greenlighted the album with the material they had when they went into the studio, which is why the delay now is so confusing. If RCA decided they weren’t happy with the stuff he wrote, they sure took their sweet ass time figuring that out, so I’m doubtful that’s at the heart of it.

    Personally, I think the new writing sessions are just Cook making the most of an unwelcome artist shuffling type of scheduling delay by getting together with people he wanted to write with for this record in the first place but never was given the opportunity. And maybe he even said fuck it, and is going to bat for some stuff he wants to do creatively with a little more forcefulness since they’re giving him the run around with the timetable? Who knows.

    ETA, re: the Crystal/Gina news…holy crap! Mutiny! LOL

  63. steph6449:
    09/06/2010 at 2:58 pm

    Are there precedents for the runner-up not being with 19M right off the bat? I know some of them worked with non-19M management later on.

    David Archuleta didn’t sign with 19M as far as I know.

  64. Roger is the head of PR for 19. Gina was VP. Both of them had their jobs because of their former affiliation with RCA and Jive, the labels that offered albums to the Idols.

    With Sony out of the picture at Idol, I’m sure 19 is looking for PR peeps that have ties to the new label.

    I’m not sure where this leaves the Idols signed to 19M, RCA and Jive.

  65. Lane is not Adams “manager”. She is his personal assistant and helps with his scheduling personal appearances etc. Adam us still managed by 19

  66. 19 must have been willing to let her leave for whatever reason.

    Are you talking about Gina or Crystal? Given Simon’s history, and his view on music, I don’t think it’s surprising that he didn’t want to manage Crystal. I think that Simon goes the easy route, which is why he rarely thinks out of the box, and believes that the biggest platform that he can give these people is a performance spot on an episode of American Idol. For the most part, he rarely does anything to mass promote them to people who don’t watch the show. I think that Simon was smart enough to realize that Crystal would be harder to promote, and that her audience wouldn’t easily be reached using the same methods that he’s used to promote anyone else that he has signed to 19M.

  67. I’m not sure where this leaves the Idols signed to 19M, RCA and Jive.

    I don’t think the change will have any effect. What is Arista Nashville going to do, drop Carrie because Simon Fuller has taken his business to UMG. And as long as Simon Fuller is making money off of these people, he will continue to manage them.

  68. Gina Orr follows Casey James on Twitter. Probably not significant, but just throwing that out there…..

  69. If Gina used to work for Jive, maybe that’s a big reason why Crystal decided to go with her as her manager — Gina probably has a bunch of contacts over there that might help in convincing the label to delay Crystal’s album until the spring instead of rushing it out this fall

  70. I think whatever is going on with David Cook’s album, the important thing is that he seems genuinely happy and excited about it’s progress and direction. He hasn’t said anything about a release date since March, and that was before he got a producer and before they started recording. I think it’s just things are taking longer than he originally thought, and he should take the time he needs to do what he needs to do.

  71. Are you talking about Gina or Crystal? Given Simon’s history, and his view on music, I don’t think it’s surprising that he didn’t want to manage Crystal.

    I was talking about Crystal. What is Simon’s view on music, I don’t think I seen much written up on this. ITA with the rest. This may end up being a win/win for both Crystal and 19.

  72. I was talking about Crystal. What is Simon’s view on music, I don’t think I seen much written up on this. ITA with the rest. This may end up being a win/win for both Crystal and 19.

    The guy who signed Danny, I think his name was Joe Gallante, or something like that, was quoted as saying that Simon Fuller didn’t want Carrie to go country, at the most he wanted her to make Pop music that had a country tinge. I think he really does’t look past what is popular, meaning, what is getting played on top 40 pop stations, and I think that has played a major role in how he’s chosen to market these people.

  73. Sunchick. I agree with your rundown. Supposedly DC and the label shut down any more singles from DCTR so they could quickly move on to the next record and get it out sometime in 2010. Now it’s like eveything came to a screaching halt after the first batch of songs were completed. I say seems because we obviously don’t know everything that is going on. And I agree that this new batch of songwriting seems like a way to stay creative while his record sits in limbo. IMO he’s going into the 2nd record in a much weaker position. Radio spins are drying up and the buzz is gone.

  74. Hmm, Crystal is going to be managed by a brand-new company instead of 19, she’s delaying her album to the spring, and so far has not shown much of a willingness to work on it since she came off tour, but instead has tweeted on playing the old dive bars she used to frequent

    Yeah, not quite getting her strategy, and yeah, put me in the camp that doesn’t see this as being because of her clout, but her being niche/harder to sell.

    Personally, I think the new writing sessions are just Cook making the most of an unwelcome artist shuffling type of scheduling delay by getting together with people he wanted to write with for this record in the first place but never was given the opportunity.

    What do you mean by artist shuffling scheduling delay? By the label maybe because they want to put his music out later, because of when they want to release people this fall? Because I would think that fall would be a great time to release Cook’s album, and given how much his last one sold, and that he’s had some good singles sales, he seems pretty solid to me. And in this uncertain time in musica, a better bet than a lot of other artists.

    Or I could not being getting what you meant by artist shuffle thing, totally admittedly so.

    Still all hmmmm about the Crystal thing.

  75. Gina Orr follows Casey James on Twitter. Probably not significant, but just throwing that out there…..

    Yeah, she has been all summer, like, around the time he went to the MTV Movie Awards. We fans suspect that she accompanied him to the awards, and knew that he was going to be offered a contract, so she was “keeping tabs” on him, so to speak, until it was official. I guess she’s got no reason to follow him now, though….

  76. Hmm, Crystal is going to be managed by a brand-new company instead of 19, she’s delaying her album to the spring, and so far has not shown much of a willingness to work on it since she came off tour, but instead has tweeted on playing the old dive bars she used to frequent

    Crystal said in a couple of interviews before the AI tour was over, that she would spend the first week at home with family and friends. After that she would have to use this springboard she´s on, to work work work. How does visiting the “old bars” during that week change anything or indicate that she´s not willing to work on her album or that it has been delayed? It´s only been 5 days, so she may be right on schedule and be working like crazy in a couple days

  77. Crystal tweeted Linda Perry a few days ago the following:

    @reallindaperry wish I could call you right now.
    @RealLindaPerry just need some bad ass motherfuckin chick advice. Dm me if you can. ;)

    Wonder if that “advice” had anything to do with Gina Orr and/or other changes?

  78. Sunchick: Maybe the delay now is just that the recordings they had already done are in post production right now and they want to see how much more is needed and the direction they are going in before going back into the studio. He did do some more recording in the past couple of weeks, and I read it was just strings for one of the tracks already recorded. I’m sure he’s in the studio though far more than he’s saying anyway. Just because he isn’t tweeting about it doesn’t mean nothing’s happening.

    Also, I believe the tweets that David said he was bored were when he was on vacation for about a week or so, possibly in KC, because after that he did tweet he was back in LA to go back into the studio.

    I don’t think it’s that unusual for an artist to take a year or more to make an album. I do feel based on who RCA has him writing and producing with that they are behind his album, and that when it is ready, that it will hopefuly be properly promoted. And again, he seems happy with the direction it is taking.

  79. Personally, I think the new writing sessions are just Cook making the most of an unwelcome artist shuffling type of scheduling delay by getting together with people he wanted to write with for this record in the first place but never was given the opportunity. And maybe he even said fuck it, and is going to bat for some stuff he wants to do creatively with a little more forcefulness since they’re giving him the run around with the timetable?

    ITA – certainly with the first part.

    Whatever has caused the delay, it seems he’s taking advantage of it to write with new and old friends. Maybe something really good will come out of it. I know Kiss On The Neck was written with Neal whilst they were in the process of recording DCTR and that is, by far and away, my favourite song on the record.

  80. Juicy Crystal scoop! Yay!

    Hmm… well Gina Orr certainly has connections in the media and at Jive, but what does she know about Crystal’s folk/roots music market? Still, I think the fact that she’d have a connected person focusing on her can only only work in Crystal’s favor. I am so intrigued. I was never convinced 19M was a good fit for Crystal anyway… they work best for folks aiming to be huge mainstream stars, I think. And its very interesting about Jive singing more singer/songwriters. They have never had much success with that type of act in the past although the occasional one has been signed there, but now it looks like they are making an effort to break into that market. I wonder if they’ve hired some new personnel with experience in that genre?

    As for Cookie, I have NO idea what is gong on there. NONE. LOL. But I don’t think anything is coming out this year. I think big gaps between records for non pop artists are fine if the act has already solidly established themselves, but I don’t think Cookie did on radio outside a smaller format. And if you are going to wait forever, then you need to do things that keep you in the public eye periodically (like Fanny with the Color Purple/Reality show). So if Cook does stuff that puts him in the public eye once he’s done recording until the record drops (likely) next year, then I can see the impact of the gap between records being lessened, but if he doesn’t, he’s going to have a hard time digging himself out of this hole without one hell of a lead single IMO.

  81. I read some of the comments on the FB page.. wow. Who says that homophobia isn’t live and well in the US?

    Seriously. You weren’t kidding lol. I will never understand what compels ppl to lash out like that…even if you dont like an artist, there is no need to bash him/her in a public forum like that…jmho.

  82. ^^^ Yeah, wow is right. I can’t believe some of those comments. I had hoped that much of the anti-gay vitriol had died down, but obviously not. Sad.

  83. Well, when you have 50cent tweeting this shit, change will be a slow process.

    Perez hilton calld me douchebag so I had my homie shoot up a gay wedding. wasnt his but still made me feel better http://twitpic.com/2lvlml

    ETA : To 3 million followers. yes, Perez is a douchebag, but this is inexcusable.

  84. Sometimes I even wonder if anyone from 19 besides his personal manager is working for David anymore.

    He really has fallen off the radar. I agree with tinawina he isn’t a well established artist who has the luxury to take that kind of time away. Yes he toured forever, but that is what you do as a new artist. And the promo opportunities that his management do get for him are so WTF?! and off the radar/left-field, playing for the opening game of the soccer season? Singing America The Beautiful at the US Open? 2 Shows at a family resort? It seems like he gets the left over promo that Daughtry doesn’t want. Were is his cover song on the Santana album? The dude known for his covers and he happens to be working with the same producer, Matt Serletic and he still doesn’t get that gig? I think he needs to leave 19M and find someone that can focus on him and give him the kind of promo opportunities he deserves. I know that seems like the wrong move, but seriously? If his promo doesn’t improve I think it would be better in the long run. Sorry for the rant. And no hate towards Daughtry implied.

  85. 19 M hasn’t automatically taken an Idol under their wing. There have been many idols who have had another management group right from the beginning or who have moved on from 19M very quickly…sometimes so quickly that I am sure the initial contract was very, very short term to begin with.

    I would assume that in this business it is important for the management, the label, and the Artist to have somewhat the same goals or everything would be fucked up from day one. The little I have heard from Crystal leads me to believe that she is a very “independent” thinker with her own set of ideas and goals and could easily be a handful for a large company who have more fish in the sea. I think it is a good idea for Crystal and Gina to move beyond 19M. This way Crystal rules the roost and Gina will work her butt off to make things happen for Crystal. And hopefully they can convince Jive that they are absolutely right and that they have all the answers for Crystal’s success. I think this may be a bumpy, but interesting ride.

  86. Yeah, as a David Cook fan I am very worried right now. He deserves support from his label and management and I am flabbergasted that he is not getting it. sad.

  87. ^^ I know you are just ranting…. I dislike daughtry’s music but cook is no where near the same level sales wise or notoriety. Besides who is to say that cook isn’t going to hook up with someone else on his own album.

  88. And the promo opportunities that his management do get for him are so WTF?

    LOL! Well to be fair, he is recording right now and has been on the studio since June… most people do drop off the radar during that period. I would worry if nothing is happening from the time he finishes recording until the time he’s released. That is the point they need to start steeping things up, IMO.

  89. That’s interesting about Crystal’s management. Is it official that 19 is managing Lee? It’s not a given that finalists are managed by them. In S5 neither the winner or the runner up signed w/19.

  90. sr4mjc:
    09/06/2010 at 5:14 pm
    Well, when you have 50cent tweeting this shit, change will be a slow process.

    Perez hilton calld me douchebag so I had my homie shoot up a gay wedding. wasnt his but still made me feel better http://twitpic.com/2lvlml

    ETA : To 3 million followers. yes, Perez is a douchebag, but this is inexcusable.

    This is fucked up!! And 50cent needs to crawl even further under that rock he has been hiding under. Sorry to not bleep, but some situations just demand it.

  91. koshak yep I agree Daughtry is in another level sales wise and that is probably why they chose him to be on the record. He has sales clout. And he is talented.

    tinawina I know and I agree there is down time while someone records their album. But the timing has become an issue because they didn’t release another single. I wish he could have booked some music festivals this summer. Try and brand him as a musician who plays with other musicians. He is always so isolated from his genre. Oh well. Nothing we can do but wait and see. I wish Michael Sleazak would interview him while he is in NY but it doesn’t look like he has any media planned at this point.

  92. Next up is a new radio single ‘Fever’, and the October 4th release of a limited Tour Edition of the album which features a bonus DVD of live performances and music videos.

    So interesting they chose Fever for the New Zealand single. Also wonder if this DVD of live performances is the new tour footage shot recently. Sounds like it is just for NZ at the moment though.

  93. What do you mean by artist shuffling scheduling delay? By the label maybe because they want to put his music out later, because of when they want to release people this fall? Because I would think that fall would be a great time to release Cook’s album, and given how much his last one sold, and that he’s had some good singles sales, he seems pretty solid to me. And in this uncertain time in musica, a better bet than a lot of other artists.

    Well, sadly, the first part of that paragraph isn’t mutually exclusive from the second part. Meaning, yes, it seems advantageous for all parties involved, including my empty Christmas stocking, for Cookie to release in fall, but that doesn’t mean that RCA is going to release the album in the fall. It also seemed advantageous to release a third single. And a live concert DVD in light of his super successful neverending tour. And none of that stuff happened. I didn’t want to get into specifics because then we’re just batting around big giant balls of unfounded conjecture, but since you asked..Maybe Cook’s album timetable conflicted with some other RCA artists who have albums in development around the same time, and as the process went on they re-prioritized and Cookie drew the short straw. That was my first thought. In which case, RCA can suck it. OTOH, maybe they don’t see the promo sitch the way we do and decided to sacrifice a larger opening sales number to aim for a higher chart placement for him when the field isn’t so crowded. If he has an album deep in possible singles, that strategy may work as album sales will continue to trickle in with multiple singles and the tour, but only if they give him a HUGE relaunch to kickstart the whole shebang, as if he were a new artist. Or maybe RCA never really gave a shit about developing his career for the longterm and were greenlighting DCTR 2.0 in conjunction with some deal they had with 19R banking on some more short term money to be made from his fanbase, then when the spit hit the fan with 19, his album got shelved. Or maybe the work the boys were doing in the studio surprised the suits in a good way and they said, you know what? We underestimated you. Take your time, we believe in this album and we want you to do it right. (Ha, I’m surprised I could type that with a straight face. If wishes were fishes I’d have enough to open ten sushi bars.) Maybe funding aint what it used to be and that changed the gameplan and only the really big guns are getting primo Q4 release promo. Maybe aliens have taken David to their mothership so that his music can bring intergalactic peace to warring interplanetary factions and he’s tweeting random stuff from space so nobody is the wiser. Who knows.

    As for the buzz and momentum, honestly? Too late to be worrying about that, IMO. When they cut DCTR off at the knees by deciding not to greenlight a third single on the heels of the moderate success of CBTM and failing to launch any significant campaign for him for a Grammy nod, the post-AI momentum came to a halt. Everything he achieved from there on out was due to hard work and touring incessantly and leftover AI goodwill, and all that’s bound to be there regardless. Buzz doesn’t worry me, but not taking advantage of the holiday shopping? That’s what worries me.

    On the up side?

    Whatever has caused the delay, it seems he’s taking advantage of it to write with new and old friends. Maybe something really good will come out of it. I know Kiss On The Neck was written with Neal whilst they were in the process of recording DCTR and that is, by far and away, my favourite song on the record.

    There’s that. Two of my faves from the album are Raine cowrites (Mr. S and Permanent), which means all things considered, I’m still selfishly excited about the Raine name dropping.

  94. he’s going to have a hard time digging himself out of this hole without one hell of a lead single IMO.

    Completley agree tinawina. And unfortunately Cook’s genre isn’t what is generating smash singles these days, so it looks pretty uphill even if the delay is giving him time to put together the great record we all know he can. He better be writing the next Use Somebody I guess. I’m mystified as to why TPTB would let the momentum he had go to waste like this, it’s getting kind of hard to watch this play out actually.

    As far as leaving 19 goes, I don’t think he has that option unless they are willing to let him go. At least not for the next several years – isn’t it a 10 year contact?

    I doubt they’ll be having him do any press until whatever is going on gets resolved. He couldn’t answer any real questions anyway. Not that he ever does, lol.

  95. I’m not going to get into a whole rant about the hold up with DC’s sophomore album, as I said the other day, sadly I’m slowly starting to not even care anymore..but regarding how long hes been off the radar, you know he can help himself a little by actually putting himself in the sptotlight. Go to an event or something where media is, do something, anything other than play golf and video games. Frankly I’m still annoyed he missed the AI finale, for a charity appearance the day before? Truthfully I wouldnt be the least bit shocked if management tried to get more promo for him but the opportunities just arent there anymore. So much potential and popularity has been squandered the last 2 years. I blame RCA mostly but mm yea, IMO hes not helping matters.

    I’m mystified as to why TPTB would let the momentum he had go to waste like this, it’s getting kind of hard to watch this play out actually.

    Completely agree. It IS hard to watch and I’m just not seeing any positivity even in his tweets some fans are seeing. Its all very uncomfortable to watch and why I’ve found the fandom pretty miserable lately. It sounds beyond harsh but at this point I’m actually dreading the eventual album drop because of how I envision things playing out. I’ve yet to see any sign the last year and a half or so RCA cares all that much.

  96. Reminder:

    If it’s not OK to stereotype gays, how is it cool to stereotype folks from the “deep south”?

    Answer: It’s not.

    Please be sensitive to ALL groups. Everyone deserves respect, not to mention it causes arguments and hurt feelings.

  97. I wish he could have booked some music festivals this summer. Try and brand him as a musician who plays with other musicians.

    Ditto that. David isn’t the type who courts the paps. He just isn’t, and it’s kind of refreshing, tbh. So he’s got to work the genre connections in the music biz and stay relevant that way. He was doing that for awhile, going to concerts on his down time and spotted here and there and such, even early on the writing process. Maybe he thought the album was supposed to drop this fall and he might have been banking on his schedule being taken over by studio time. I dunno, but I don’t think he’s complacent by any means so I’m sure he’s aware of all that. I’ve always thought that it’s ridiculous that he and Dave Grohl are on the same label and have never crossed paths in any official capacity when Cook is a self proclaimed fan. Somebody somewhere should have made that happen, but that’s neither here nor there.

    I’ve yet to see any sign the last year and a half or so RCA cares all that much.

    Also ditto-ish. I was actually kinda stoked that RCA pulled all of those Paper Heart vids, because at least it shows they were paying attention. It’s weird, because mostly I am just excited for the music and the tour and pretty damn optimistic that this album could rival even AH for my affections, but there’s a small part of me that’s not looking forward to the rest of the non-musical numberly stuff that comes with the album drop. And yet, in the back of my mind, I still think if anyone can plot a miracle comeback in the 11th hour, it’s ol’ WTF Cook. Anyway, luckily fantasy football will start to preoccupy my rainy day downtime and armchair quarterbacking tendencies now, so then maybe I’ll be pleasantly surprised when we get some news.

    I did not really follow him that closely and I was a bit surprised he did not go the opening act route for other more established acts.

    He headlined his own successful tour for close to a year. During that time he made some lasting connections with his opening acts that are starting to break now, Crash Kings, The Script, Ryan Star. He worked his ass off to build up a rep as a popular, entertaining touring act with a talented backing band. It’s not huge breakout stardom, but it’s a solid base that could conceivably be built upon with the second album. Time will tell.

  98. Sads about the major delay in Cook’s album. RCA had a winning Lotto ticket with this one and literally threw it out the window. It is amazing to think of the incredible momentum Cook and Archie had for that matter, after their season, and to tell you the truth I don’t know what is worse; no cd, or the lame Sh@#t that Archie seems to have on his new CD.

  99. I like David Cook a lot and I still think he’s the best WGWG (if I could label him that) from AI. He accomplished a lot both in album & single sales first off from AI, but the momentum for some reasons kinda stalled and disappeared after the first single. I did not really follow him that closely and I was a bit surprised he did not go the opening act route for other more established acts. Anyway, I think the constant delays and the lack of news about the second album are not doing him any favors, and I am seeing even though he still have die hard fans, but the support and interest on him has been dwindling over the past year or so, and it will be interesting to see how his second album will fare if it eventually comes out early next year.

  100. Trina: Frankly I’m still annoyed he missed the AI finale, for a charity appearance the day before?

    The Idol winners thing was reportedly thrown together at the last minute but everyone else made it. Hugely disappointing that David wasn’t there and I wondered about the reasons.

  101. Wasn’t the charity event the same night as the finale and planned well before the finale tribute was put together?

  102. Lane didn’t leave 19 to manage Adam. She still works for 19 as far as I know. Adam hasn’t left 19 Management. Lane is his day-to-day manager, she just didn’t move on to the newest Idol runner-up. Adam’s major publicity has still had Roger Wydnowski’s name on it.

    In an interview last year Lane said she will stay with Adam as long as he wants her to.

  103. kokko: Anyway, I think the constant delays and the lack of news about the second album are not doing him any favors, and I am seeing even though he still have die hard fans, but the support and interest on him has been dwindling over the past year or so,…

    Is David’s PR team making mistakes? I’m a fan of both Davids. Archie’s team has him “updating” the fans constantly, even when there wasn’t much going on, maintaining and expanding his loyal core. His core may include some different age groups (more tweens than Cook) but still….

    How about a vlog/blog/tweets from Cook just saying he really appreciates the fan loyalty and good wishes, knows how excited everyone is for the new album, is working hard, and will share news as soon as possible.

    I feel for the guy as it seems something’s going on.

    He looked extremely happy at Busch Gardens, great to see, and said he was grateful for the fan support.

  104. Any feedback that David is at all concerned about this? Maybe he likes his life – have no clue. Just played him again – haven’t for a while – love “Lie.”

  105. Any feedback that David is at all concerned about this? Maybe he likes his life – have no clue. Just played him again – haven’t for a while – love “Lie.”

    No, most of this I think is fan projection and speculation. Nobody knows how David feels,except for a couple of instances of fans talking to members of his band and they were very positive about everything to do with recording.

  106. HappyDaisy:
    09/06/2010 at 7:32 pm
    Trina: Frankly I’m still annoyed he missed the AI finale, for a charity appearance the day before?

    The Idol winners thing was reportedly thrown together at the last minute but everyone else made it. Hugely disappointing that David wasn’t there and I wondered about the reasons.

    Actually Cook had an appearance for the same charity the day of the AI finale, so it would have been difficult to get back to CA for it. I personally admire someone that made a commitment to a charity (and it was done with AI’s blessing then THEY decided at the last minute to get all the winners back and his commitment was already made) and stood by it over a little AI publicity. If AI had really wanted him there, they could have done a video link (which they didn’t).

  107. I was in Wisconsin this week and I saw that Danny Gokey was headlining the country stage at the Taste of festival. I wasn’t able to watch because my schedule was completely booked but it was fun to see – how cool for him.

    Very interesting news about Crystal. I think she may be the release I am most interested in following as I think hers is one of the more complex in terms of genre, label, and fanbase.

    I wanted to comment on Cook, who you can probably tell if you read my posts is one of my fav idols. IMO, I think they decided to delay the album until next year as a strategy – I would guess so he can release at a less competitive time of year. (Also, it could be a staffing issue at the label, especially since there have been a lot of cut backs in recent years – I’d rather Cook wait than not have RCA staff to promote him properly when he has a new single). People here say he has been off the radar – well, charting high would be one way to get back on it. I really don’t think material is an issue at all – I think it is cool he has decided to write more songs and make the most of the delay.

    Also, besides missing the holiday sales, I don’t see why it is such a big deal whether he gets back on people’s radars now or next year. Will a month or 3 really make a difference if he has truly already fallen off the radar? My thought: I don’t think he really needs to be on the radar until he has something new to sell. People will remember him then and care or they won’t but a few months won’t make a difference.

    Also, I don’t think he has had bad management at all. They helped him set up a national tour that lasted several months, and get onto various specials and talk shows – even when he didn’t have something new to promote. If when he has something to promote and isn’t able to get those perks then I would be mad at management. For now, it makes more sense for him to choose gigs that pay him and the band money while they are on hiatus.

    Anyway, those are my thoughts on the subject.

  108. Joyed: I think they decided to delay the album until next year as a strategy – I would guess so he can release at a less competitive time of year.

    That may be a very good thing. If it’s going to be 2011, why is David’s management being secretive about it? Is there a competitive edge to be lost if they announce that he’ll release next year?

  109. Holy cow. I feel like I inadvertently started a wave of high level cook angst. LOL.

    For the record, I don’t think things are that dire. A good publicity campaign can bring him back into public consciousness. So can a good song given a real solid push by the label. I am not one who ever thought RCA hated him… when CBTM peaked, DCTR was out of the BB200. It was always logical to me to stop there. His recording budget has not been stingy at all. Publicity is mostly management’s responsibility. He’s been writing since January and recording since June, people are not usually in the media while those things are happening.

    I think if no effort is made in the run-up to his album, I’d draw the conclusion he’s been shelved. But I don’t have any idea that is what will happen, I don’t see signs that it will or won’t. I mean, he’s been tweeting from the studio and whatnot, I ‘m not sure what else is supposed to be happening right now.

    My thought: I don’t think he really needs to be on the radar until he has something new to sell. People will remember him then and care or they won’t but a few months won’t make a difference.

    I generally agree with that but I do think the longer they wait the harder it will be, the longer the odds get. But I do think it can be overcome with effort.

  110. Joyed, you make a lot of sense, although I’m kind of fond of my alien abduction theory at the moment. ;)

  111. Well, thanks a lot for all the Cook angst! ;-)

    Here’s my pile on to the pile (or ball, was it, sunchick?) of pure conjecture. Maybe they’re holding off on Cook’s release because of how bad it will look simultaneously releasing with WGWG3 Lee. No matter how it plays out — Cook’s ## good and Lee’s ## suck; or, Cook’s and Lee’s ## are nearly the same suckitude; or… well, realistically, there is no other “or” here. (Sorry Lee. lol) But, ok, Lee’s ## are respectable and Cook’s are lower.

    I am, of course, full of it and think there’s no chance this thought process is in play. But, conjecture is what it is, so why not?!

    I’d lean toward a staffing and funding issue, which does indeed suck. Hopefully, we’re all full of it and DCTR2 will drop for my birthday this Fall after all. :-)

  112. I agree it isn’t as dire as it seems, but a lot of it depends on how much support and promo the label and management give Davids first single I think that is what is unknown.

  113. Tinawina:

    I agree with you. I haven’t seen anything negative at all from David and his band about the progress of his album, or there is lack of support from RCA. In fact, I think it’s just the opposite because of who they are getting to write with him, and produce his cd.

    I think the thing is that we are more aware of the process because some of it is shared online. In the past, someone would do a cd and then you wouldn’t hear about them for a few years, until they were ready to release a cd, and there is a promotion.

    Maybe the US open thing is the beginning of the promotion. Because I did see articles saying that he has been recording an album this year. I did see a Q&A on the Bush Garden page and it was asked what his plans are for 2011 and he said new album and new tour.

    But I haven’t seen anything at all that shows that RCA isn’t behind David and his album. I do think there were mistakes made on the first album, but it did do well despite the possible problems. I’m hoping that when the album is released it does really well, and that it will be worth the wait.

  114. The Cookie angst is at an all time high tonight. For what it’s worth a friend of mine has been keeping weekly twitter updates on a few of the idols. Cookie, even though he has not had a major appearance in a while still gained 1,500 followers this past week. Being a fan of DC’s I follow him and I do get annoyed by all the random tweets and not much being said about the new cd. As we know he has a very loyal following and if twitter is any indication that following is still growing. I am really disappointed about the cd being delayed. I’ve read alot of the posts not all and I have really hesitated about bringing this up because I am a fan of Cookie’s and Lee’s. Is the reason DC’s cd is being delayed because DC and Lee are label mates and Lee’s cd is being dropped on Nov. 16? RCA would not want to put two of their own in direct competition with each other? right? Especially them both being AI winners?

    ETA: oops! now I see the weareallinnocent already posted this Lee/ Cookie possibility.

  115. My gut feeling is that Lee winning would cause problems for Cook. Now RCA has Daughtry, Cook, Lee all in the same genre. I could understand them postponing Cook’s album so it wouldn’t compete w/Lee’s for attention and $s. That would make sense.

  116. Well AIaddict I don’t know. Like I just don’t know if the winner had been Crystal would DC be releasing his CD in Nov? Maybe not. Maybe it’s not just one factor?

  117. My gut feeling is that Lee winning would cause problems for Cook. Now RCA has Daughtry, Cook, Lee all in the same genre. I could understand them postponing Cook’s album so it wouldn’t compete w/Lee’s for attention and $s. That would make sense.

    It would surprise me if they are thinking to invest an enormous amount in Lee or that they wouldn’t see David as a more likely success given reasonable support, good songs, etc. But I suppose there is the tradition thing of getting the winner’s album out in the fall (has it ever been later than that?).

    Lee may be broadly in the same genre as David, but I don’t really find them similar at all in very many important ways (to the limited degree that I’ve seen/listened to Lee).

  118. Joyed-

    Sorry you didn’t get to see Danny’s headliner at Taste of Madison; it was fun. Despite the rain, I”d estimate 4-6k people assembled at the stage and up the Capitol hill to see him. I was with my family so was way in back- actually way UP on the Capitol steps. A different experience than being down near the front being squashed and dancing ;)

    About David; I guess I know it won’t change anything, so I just try and not worry and patiently wait for his next album to scoop it up.
    I think Lee winning did put a wrench in things big time- if Crystal would have won (as originally planned, lol) I don’t think there would be this delay or vague news black out.
    I’m glass half full; there will be a David Cook album out before S10 is too far along!

  119. re: dc album..

    my personal thinking-worries-angst-speculation:

    >lee winning, cook needs to give way
    >19E is a mess right now
    >american idol is a mess right now, well they are big part of 19E
    >not enough hit songs (assuming only!), then kudos for RCA for wanting him to do more than put out a not-ready-album
    >Lack of support from RCA
    >RCA is also a mess right now. not enough sales for 2010 unlike past years
    >avoid the big competition this fall
    >go for next year, much better PR
    >He’s not really finish.. thats all..
    >really, what the hell is happening at 19E and RCA?

    sighs.. that’s all…

    i hope cook is aware of this, and wishful thinking that he’ll suprise us in a #bobadang way – whatever that means..

  120. Could someone shed some light on why there was never a 3rd single released from DCTR? The first two singles seemed to do really well so why would they not go for a third single? I never really got the reasoning behind that.

  121. If the issue with DCTR2 is a timing conflict with Lee’s record I don’t know why a fall release would have ever been on the table?

  122. I don’t think Lee’s cd release has anything to do with David’s not being released. I think if David’s was finished it would be released irregardless of Lees.

  123. Could someone shed some light on why there was never a 3rd single released from DCTR? The first two singles seemed to do really well so why would they not go for a third single? I never really got the reasoning behind that.

    a speculation on my part: Come back to me was the 3rd single.. the magic rainbows did so well…

  124. I personally admire someone that made a commitment to a charity (and it was done with AI’s blessing then THEY decided at the last minute to get all the winners back and his commitment was already made) and stood by it over a little AI publicity.

    Me too. 19/Fremantle dicked around on planning anything for Cowell (IMO, because they were pissed at him for leaving and bringing X-Factor ashore) until three days before, and I’m still pretty sure they were forced into it by Fox. Cook had given them up to a week before before committing to the other event. He shouldn’t have backed out as soon as he said “yes”.

    And simply on PR terms, nobody seems to consider what bad buzz would have gotten out if the guy (who makes charitable work a fairly significant portion of his branding) had skipped out on helping sick kids to go sing for five seconds on teevee. That story could NOT have been spun well. The other was.

    I’d lean toward a staffing and funding issue, which does indeed suck.

    As far as staffing and funding, RCA has a crapload of artists coming down the pike. The Foos are tweeting from the studio almost daily. Avril L and Kelly C are both doing their thing. And the new RCA website suggests that they signed a whole bunch of new acts that they’ll be trying to break. Either they can manage an artist roster or they can’t, and I don’t know the answer to that question, but it doesn’t look like it’s going to get any easier next year.

    The first two singles seemed to do really well so why would they not go for a third single?

    LO did fine to well without going gangbusters. It never charted that high on CHR but it hung around for quite awhile, and it was inescapable on HAC. CBTM did well on HAC but nothing on CHR, which is, IMO, something a deaf nun would have predicted the minute the album dropped. So by the time the latter finally wound down on HAC, the album was close to or off the BB 200. I personally think RCA didn’t want to risk another single not going anywhere on CHR before the next album. Given expectations for a late spring/summer release, that may well have been reasonable. Obviously it didn’t work out that way.

  125. TOML was a double edged sword. It was the most succesfull single but it also has nothing to do with him or his musical style. So when the record single cycle ended on Come Back To Me another song that really does not represent his musical identity it IMO stopped he record on a down note.

  126. Could someone shed some light on why there was never a 3rd single released from DCTR? The first two singles seemed to do really well so why would they not go for a third single? I never really got the reasoning behind that.

    My theory: At the time they would have released a new single, when CBTM was peaking (sometime in the fall I think?) the album has just dropped out of the BB200. So they would have to spend a lot of money to promote to CHR in the fall since CBTM did not do well on pop and there was no momentum there. And promoting to HAC only made no sense, since CBTM was his 3rd top 10 on that format and since having a high charting song there was no longer driving album sales, what was the point? The tour was winding down, they were planning on getting something out the following spring/summer anyway, he had already made a good bit of money… why not stop there. That’s what I think anyway.

    ETA: what standtotheright said. LOL

  127. My theory: At the time they would have released a new single, when CBTM was peaking (sometime in the fall I think?) the album has just dropped out of the BB200.

    Actually CBTM peaked on HAC at the end of July and at that time DCTR was still in the top 100 on Billboard. I distinctly remember being frustrated at RCA not announcing another single. From what I remember it dropped out of the 200 after CBTM went recurrent on HAC. It took CBTM quite a while before it went recurrent.

  128. OMG, ok, thanks you guys for all the info. I was not thinking of magic rainbows as being the first single from the cd. Also, I was thinking of the singles doing well in terms of sales not where they were on the charts so that makes more sense.

  129. ^ That’s how I remember it too. As to the benefits of pushing a third single to HAC, I do get that a lead single from a new album would have more ooo, shiny appeal to CHR, but in the same token, hindsight being 20/20 I think RCA wasn’t firmly committed to a definite time table for the 2nd album so that reasoning isn’t looking quite as sound. Plus there was the possibility that if said single hit big on HAC they could try to cross it over to CHR later rather than going for CHR adds out of the gate. While it was a gamble, I would have preferred they rolled the dice, if only because the best songs on the album were sitting there untried with all of that wasted potential while Cook had to hang his hat on CBTM. Just sticks in my craw. Shoulda coulda woulda. Anyway, I suppose I will attempt to be patient because really the only thing we’ve established is that no one has any way of knowing anything for certain at this point. And that Cook fans have a gift for making much ado about nothing, LOL. (Which, believe it or not, actually just had the opposite effect of making me angsty. Not knowing anything kinda sucks, but kvetching about not knowing anything? Cathartic. Just me? Okay then.)

  130. Omigosh, you guys just about budged me from my staunch refusal to get angsty, lol. *Must be strong, must be strong*

    Camp Cook is a fortress of silence. And yes, it does sometimes annoy me. But I still care, and I’ll wait, dammit. But RCA *I WANT TO SPEND MONEY* – why won’t you give me something to buy?

    Hmmmph. (That is a disgruntled noise, BTW).

    Well, in the meantime for all you GRO fans out there they just released an acoustic-y EP on iTunes and I think I shall run and spend the money *I can’t spend on David* and download it via MJ’s linkage of course ;)

  131. Actually CBTM peaked on HAC at the end of July and at that time DCTR was still in the top 100 on Billboard. I distinctly remember being frustrated at RCA not announcing another single. From what I remember it dropped out of the 200 after CBTM went recurrent on HAC.

    Thanks! You are probably right since I never remember all the details exactly right. I don’t think it was July though. Maybe August?

    I remember the album selling 7-8K a week for a long time up until MJ died. Then the album started going down with everyone else but it never recovered. Before that it never left the top 50, after that it started its march of the chart.

    Anyway, I know it didn’t peak that soon because there was all this discussion about the song staying up while the album was going down. It could have been August though! I just know that when they would have dropped a new single, the album was dead or near dead.

  132. Thanks! You are probably right since I never remember all the details exactly right. I don’t think it was July though. Maybe August?

    I remember the album selling 7-8K a week for a long time up until MJ died. Then the album started going down with everyone else but it never recovered. Before that it never left the top 50, after that it started its march of the chart.

    Anyway, I know it didn’t peak that soon because there was all this discussion about the song staying up while the album was going down. It could have been August though! I just know that when they would have dropped a new single, the album was dead or near dead.

    Well this chart (stolen from DCO)seems to suggest otherwise (look at the Hot Adult top 40 column which is HAC)

    http://www.scribd.com/full/12659248?access_key=key-2ayr1a6f6bs34zaplsrf

    This is the album chart:

    http://www.scribd.com/full/9151079?access_key=key-2cwexusw5r3mpsg55gjn

    Unfortunately they do not go below 100. Like I said, I distinctly remember being frustrated that if RCA waited too long after CBTM had peaked that the album will fall off the BB200 and they will have an excuse not to release another single.

    ETA: Ok I looked back on DCO and it was still at #6 on August 22, flip/flopping i think between 6 & 7 for a few weeks. On August 20th it was posted that DCTR was at #99 on the BB200 the previous week.

  133. Don’t don’t get me started on RCA not releasing a Cook written song. So annoying. But it looks pretty par for the course unless your name is Daughtry.

    No kidding about camp Cook being Fort freakin Knox. Were is a loose lipped RCA interin when ya need em.

  134. Unfortunately they do not go below 100. Like I said, I distinctly remember being frustrated that if RCA waited too long after CBTM had peaked that the album will fall off the BB200 and they will have an excuse not to release another single.

    Oh cool! I see! I stand corrected:

    1. DCTR DID leave the top 50 in the period between singles,
    2. DCTR fell off sometime later than I though… in early october perhaps?
    3. I’m talking about peaking as when the song starts plunging down. CBTM stayed at 6-7 for a few weeks more weeks, right?… I guess that’s early August when it finally stopped? So to me, they would announce a new single when the song had peaked and was going down, not when it was plateauing, since they didn’t know how long that would last.

    And during the time CBTM was going up, from mjs death on, album sales were plunging down. It was seeing big decreases each week. I remember other albums were recovering from the mj deluge and he wasn’t despite CBTM doing well. To me, it looked like it was losing momentum. That’s why I thought there wouldn’t be another single… it was his 3rd top 10 on his core format and it was doing nothing for his album sales, why would they think another would do the trick? And getting back on pop would be expensive and risky… crossing it over from HAC was not guaranteed either. All indications looked to me like that album was done. That’s what I thought early on, but I know I was kinda alone on that one.

  135. Well yeah, CBTM was not selling the record. IMO that song is bland city. It didn’t even sell that well as a single so how could it sell the record. But yes I can see what you mean. Single not selling the album, let’s shut it down. If the label thought, well gee the best songs on this record, for singles, are not writen by Cook there is no way his songs could sell the record? We don’t really care about establising him as an artist with his own music spinning on the radio? Makes no sense to me if the goal was to help cement his status as an artist.

  136. as if i didn’t have enough to worry about tonight, what with kindergarten starting tomorrow and all. now i have to worry about RCA and cookie and albums that might not be coming out when expected, but here’s my thoughts. just for argument’s sake, let’s say cookie has fallen completely off the radar by the time his album drops. he is such a good guy and a compelling guest on a talk show, that kelly and regis and ellen and oprah and maybe even letterman this time around will all have him on to plug his new album. plus, nothing sells more cookie records/singles than a live cookie performance. even if most casual fans of the show have long forgotten about him, a quick viewing on the today show or good morning america will quickly jog their memories. and if his album is anywhere close to as good as i’m hoping it will be, all of these casual fans (not to mention the more avid (read: psychotic) fans like myself will be running out to purchase a copy. i think he’s going to be fine. i really do. rest your heads all you naysayers: he’s permanent.

  137. (not to mention the more avid (read: psychotic) fans like myself will be running out to purchase a copy.

    LOL, that made me smile. I’m sitting here *itching* to buy a copy – I’ll be lingering around watching iTunes ready to push the “buy” button. And then will dash off to the store and buy my hard copy. Still remember opening my DCTR CD and popping it in my CD player in my car and driving around listening to it and getting goosebumps when “Declaration” started up and crying to “Permanent.” So yeah, I’ll wait. I can’t quit the guy, after all (even when the Cook Fortress of Impenetrable Silence annoys me). I’ll just wait impatiently, that’s all. Can’t help it. Want MORE. That’s a compliment to Mr. Cook, just like when his shows end and I’m thinking “No! Don’t be over already!” because I want it to keep going…

  138. thing is, he’s too much of a damn diplomat to air any grievances with the recording process. he might be frustrated as hell, but he’ll continue to toe the party line and all we’ll hear is “im so grateful to be here and not serving beers.” gotta love him for his smooth talking, though it would be nice in times like these to know what the fuck really is going on behind closed doors.i just gotta have faith. as diplomatic as he is, i don’t see him letting himself get screwed or pushed into doing something that he’s not ok with. maybe i’m just delusional.

  139. i’m with karenc..i dont reckon David’s album release has anything to do with Lee. also, Lee is in a very different genre to David and Daughtry

  140. And during the time CBTM was going up, from mjs death on, album sales were plunging down. It was seeing big decreases each week. I remember other albums were recovering from the mj deluge and he wasn’t despite CBTM doing well. To me, it looked like it was losing momentum. That’s why I thought there wouldn’t be another single… it was his 3rd top 10 on his core format and it was doing nothing for his album sales, why would they think another would do the trick? And getting back on pop would be expensive and risky… crossing it over from HAC was not guaranteed either. All indications looked to me like that album was done. That’s what I thought early on, but I know I was kinda alone on that one.

    The other thing is Barbasol was released as a single also. I know it wasn’t really promoted as much as CBTM, and it didn’t catch on with rock radio. And Permanent was released as a charity single. I have read that it does cost money including a portion of an artist’s profits to put out a single. I’m not sure if Permanent would have in this case, but i’m sure Barbasol and the others did.

    I kind of wonder if what is behind all of this is to relaunch David more as a rock artist instead of HAC. I think the only other song on the album that was really a rock song was Kiss On the Neck, and I think that would have been the breakout hit on the album. Now, I loved the other songs on the album but I don’t think they would have changed it much from the HAC format if they were released.

    The reason I think that there is a move to go more to rock is because the tour was more of a rock show than was on the album, especially as the tour went on and some of the songs were rearranged to be more rock songs.

    So, possibly, what is happening is there was a desicion to make the new cd more rock and get away from HAC? So they decided not to release any more singles that would have been considered HAC. And maybe part of this is to have some distance timewise between the last album and the new album, to relaunch him when the new cd comes out. I know we probably won’t know this until we see the direction the new album takes, but I do think that Paper Heart was more in the alternative rock direction. So I think this is all a possibility.

  141. cookmerized…if his album is anywhere close to as good as i’m hoping it will be, all of these casual fans (not to mention the more avid (read: psychotic) fans like myself will be running out to purchase a copy. i think he’s going to be fine. i really do. rest your heads all you naysayers: he’s permanent.

    Words of wisdom!!!

  142. I hope that David Cook will release his second album this fall. Did he mentioned anything about when the first single out of the album will be released or at least if they peaked the first single already?

  143. karenc I’m feelin ya. It’s definitely possible that RCA is going to relaunch him a different way, and maybe then getting distance from the first album roll out is an actual strategic decision/blessing in disguise of sorts. I know a lot of people question the feasibility of breaking an AI alum on rock or alt rock radio, but I’d still love to see them give it the old college try with David. Some of his touring partners get play on those formats, so ya never know.

  144. jpfan:
    09/06/2010 at 9:58 pm
    My gut feeling is that Lee winning would cause problems for Cook.

    And just maybe TPTB were worried that a Cook album would destroy Lee’s debut album. Just a thought.

  145. Zastine4974:

    And just maybe TPTB were worried that a Cook album would destroy Lee’s debut album. Just a thought.

    I don’t know why that would happen. Unless Lee whips out an album that sounds nothing like anything he’s done before, the only thing he and Cook have in common is AI.

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