Idol Headlines for 04/01/10

Can Social Media Predict American Idol’s Winner?

Social media analysis firm Biz360 is once again tapping into blogs, Twitter feeds, Facebook posts and a range of other social media data to try to determine who will win the popular singing contest, where viewers vote for their favorites. Once per week, starting on April 7, they will predict which of the contestants will be voted off.

Biz360 tried this last year too, and it didn’t work perfectly. With the race neck and neck between contestants Adam Lambert and Kris Allen right up until the end, they went with Lambert. Lambert came in second.

WSJ.com

American Idol’s Clay Aiken and Ruben Studdard Reunited!

Season-two finalists Clay Aiken and Ruben Studdard—does it even matter anymore which one was crowned the winner?—are heading out on a 17-city North American tour. And they’re calling it “Timeless” because, well, it totally is.

The two begin reliving their glory days July 23 in Asheville, N.C., and are plotting numerous duets and covers of classics from the past five decades.

“I couldn’t ask for a better tour mate, ” Clay says in a statement. “To be able to share the stage with him again is so exciting…He inspires me daily and I think that respect and admiration will truly be reflected in our show.”

“It is truly a blessing and an honor to be on the stage with my friend, ” Ruben says.

EOnline

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Top 10 best-selling ‘American Idols’

LOS ANGELES – Over its eight seasons, “American Idol” has turned dozens of amateur singers into superstars. Kelly Clarkson went from blushing 20-something with a big voice to international sensation thanks to her top spot on the show, while the quiet but commanding Carrie Underwood scored Grammys, country music accolades and millions of album sales after winning the crown.

Plenty of formerly undiscovered singers have gone far even without winning the competition too, like season two runner-up Clay Aiken, who went from chart topper to Broadway star. Who could forget Chris Daughtry, the shaved-headed rocker, who went on to front his own ensemble and win the hearts of millions.

MSNBC

Darius Rucker: Some ‘Idol’ Hopefuls Can’t Sing

As a successful country singer and Hootie and the Blowfish frontman, Darius Rucker certainly knows what it takes to make a hit record.

But the CMA Award winner, 40, who is a married father of three, thinks some early American Idol contestants are fooling themselves when they think they can actually sing.

“We watch American Idol religiously, ” he tells me during a March on Stage event benefiting Musicians On Call held at Hard Rock Café Nashville. “I love the people who are good, and I love the people who aren’t good. We’ll sit there with the family and we’ll watch it.”

OK Magazine

Adam Lambert Says ‘Unplugged’ Covers Let Him ‘Play With The Melody’

Adam Lambert took the dance-floor-friendly tracks from his debut album, For Your Entertainment, and gave them the acoustic treatment for “Unplugged.”

For the special, he performed “Whataya Want From Me, ” “Down the Rabbit Hole, ” “Broken Open” and “Music Again.” He also did an acoustic version of his “Idol” fan favorite, “Mad World.”

“It’s something new, ” he said of the stripped-down tunes. “When we created the songs, we actually started on the computer, so doing it unplugged, this is the first time for that. It actually allows you to play with the melody even more.”

MTV

Adam Lambert Answers The 15 Questions We Ask Everyone

Adam Lambert one of our favourite American Idol contestants ever* so whilst he was swanning about in the UK being all cool and promoting his amazing new album For Your Entertainment, we caught up with him to ask the 15 Questions We Ask Everyone.
*(just for the record we do heart David Archuleta quite a lot too)

Female First

‘Idol’ contestant spurs interest in Cape artist

Ever since Siobhan Magnus of Marstons Mills hit the big stage of “American Idol” sporting an Edward Gorey tattoo, sales of the dark stories and illustrations of the late Yarmouth Port author have spiked.

“I got a fax from one of the trustees of the Gorey estate and he checks the sales of Gorey books every day and says the figures have jumped a great deal, ” said Rick Jones, curator of the Edward Gorey House Museum.

Jones said there are three million items listed on Amazon.com, the largest bookseller in the world, and Edward Gorey books have always ranked in the top 20, 000 to 22, 000 books on the popular Web site.

Wicked Local

Update: West Virginia police are investigating nonexistent Lady Gaga/Adam Lambert concert

Police are now investigating the curious case of the West Virginia Lady Gaga/Adam Lambert concert that never was to be. Martinsburg, W.Va., hairstylist Luke Loy managed to sell 109 tickets at $100 each for the alleged show at a county park near Harpers Ferry before reps for both stars denied they had anything to do with it. The Martinsburg Journal reports that Loy was working with a promoter, Dean DeSana, with previous fraud convictions; however, DeSana told the paper that he himself was conned by a California-based group that falsely claimed it booked the entertainers.

Washington Post

Danny records “The Gokey Pokey”

Danny Gokey’s version of Joe Cocker’s “You Are So Beautiful” eliminated him from the “American Idol” finals last May, but he’s certain, this time, he has a cover song that will shoot him — and his new spectacles — straight to the stars.

According to a press release, Gokey has recorded a version of the popular children’s song “The Hokey Pokey” and re-named it “The Gokey Pokey.” The 29-year-old former church music director’s publicist, Mary Maciejewski-Szczepanski, guarantees “The Gokey Pokey” is going to sweep southeastern Wisconsin.

Milwaukee.com

Kellie Pickler Adds ‘Shabby-Chic’ Touch to Touring

Kellie Pickler has a new hobby, thanks to some new digs both on and off the road. The singer is playing interior designer! While Kellie is in the midst of decorating her newly-purchased home in Nashville, she’s also designing a new set of wheels.

“I’m trying to figure out what I’m going to do inside of the [tour] bus, ” Kellie tells The Boot. “When you build a bus, it’s very much like building a house … Where do you want the electrical sockets? What kind of sockets do you want? Do you want your light here or there? What kind of walls do you want? What kind of floor do you want? Picking out the tile. Picking out the carpet or hardwood. It’s just crazy, but it’s a lot of fun!”

The Boot

Carly Smithson checks in from the road

Five shows into their first tour together, and Carly Smithson thinks We Are the Fallen sounds like they’ve been together forever.

“I thought it was going to take a month to get into it, because we hadn’t performed together before, ” says Carly, calling from Toronto, where We Are the Fallen will open for Finnish rock band HIM tonight. “We’re alive as soon as we come on that stage. You can see through the whole show, there’s just emotion pouring out of all of us.”

USA Today

PHOTO: Jennifer Hudson appears at Boys and Girls Club

Singer and actress Jennifer Hudson gets hugs after posing for photos at the Valentine Boys and Girls Club in Chicago today. Hudson will be donating money to the Boys and Girls Clubs of America with proceeds from a coffee cup she designed a 7-11. Her visit, although a planned promotion, was a surprise for the young boys and girls from various clubs in the city. (Nancy Stone/ Chicago Tribune)

Chicago Breaking News

We Give A Damn PSA

“Give A Damn” is the theme of the campaign which will feature several celebs speaking out for equality. It officially launches on-line at giveadamn.org at 9 a.m. EST on Thursday, April 1st, but RadarOnline.com has an exclusive first look at the first PSA’s being released.

Celebrities taking part in the campaign include Elton John, Whoopi Goldberg, Cynthia Nixon, Sharon and Kelly Osbourne, Judith Light, Kim Kardashian, Clay Aiken, and Wanda Sykes –all proclaiming they “Give A Damn” about equality as they too publicly declare their sexuality, be it straight, gay or bisexual.

Radaronline

Daughtry rocks the BJC

About 5, 500 voices could be heard singing, “A long, long time ago” from the Bryce Jordan Center on Wednesday night as Daughtry sang, “Feels Like Tonight, ” on its first stop to State College.

Chris Daughtry told the crowd to sing along if they knew the words, and if they didn’t, “make it up, ” he said.

The crowd waited in anticipation as each member of the five-man band took their place on stage, their shadows revealed behind a white curtain. Just as they raised their hands, the curtain fell to reveal Chris Daughtry behind the microphone.

The Daily Collegian

Simon Cowell Puts Heavyweight Atop Syco

The American Idol judge Simon Cowell has hired the ex-boss of the company which made Who Wants To Be a Millionaire? to run his new Syco Entertainment. Ellis Watson, who starts as CEO of Syco in a month’s time, is a heavyweight businessman (see below). So right at the top of his in-tray will be figuring out how Simon Cowell is going to be in two places at the same time next year. The X Factor is due to start on Fox in fall 2011 – just when the show begins on ITV over here. And so far, ITV says it’s not changing its date. Remember, this is a big deal for the UK channel, especially after the finale generated an unheard-of peak time audience of 19.3 million. My view is that ITV could give itself the best Xmas present ever by moving The X Factor to that week.

Deadline Hollywood

Kellie Pickler Talks ‘Chemistry’ in the Writing Room

Just a few weeks back, Kellie had the opportunity to write with legendary tunesmith Dean Dillon, whose credits consist of numerous George Strait cuts, including ‘She Let Herself Go, ‘ ‘Ocean Front Property, ‘ ‘The Chair, ‘ ‘Living for the Night’ and dozens more.

“I am a huge fan of Dean Dillon, ” Kellie gushes. “He actually wrote probably my favorite country song that has been out in the past five or six years, and that is Lee Ann Womack’s ‘Have You Seen That Girl.'”

The Boot

Simon Cowell presents Susan Boyle with £4 million birthday present

The singer and runner-up on Britain’s Got Talent, who turns 49 on Thursday 1 April, was handed her first royalties cheque for her debut album I Dreamed A Dream.

Released last November by Cowell’s company Syco it became the fastest selling album in British history with more than 3.1 million copies bought in its first four weeks.

Telegraph.co.uk

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165 Comments

  1. OMG, the Gokey pokey????? Some of what goes around comes around, but some of what comes around should have been left for dead fifty years ago. The hokey pokey???? I’d rather twist again.

  2. POP:
    14 15 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 5529 5209 320 29.932
    +34 Spins
    +23 Bullet
    -0.042 AI

    HAC:
    14 12 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 2405 2077 328 11.701
    +39 Spins
    -21 Bullet
    +0.059 AI

    Should end up #13 on POP tomorrow as it passes Orianthi and Gaga.

    7 13 ORIANTHI According To You 5590 6972 -1382 31.924
    9 14 Garyn Fett Bad Romance 5575 6603 -1028 37.592
    14 15 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 5529 5209 320 29.932

  3. I tried clicking on the Gokey article but it wouldn’t connect…this is an April Fool’s joke, right???

    Great news for Adam!! So glad his International promo was so successful too. Looking forward to April…lots of good Adam stuff happening. :)

  4. The Billboard thread at Pulse reports this is the #200 album for this week:
    200 Brantley Gilbert Halfway To Heaven 2,364

    Brian Mansfield reported album sales that were at 1K and I’m hoping that Kris didn’t fall THAT far. Did Brian not get the numbers for KA? He got them for Carrie’s and Daughtry’s older albums that are out of the BB200.

  5. Wow. Kudos to RCA for doing a good job repackaging the album so Glamberts have yet another reason to buy more copies.

    http://www.facebook.com/notes/adam-lambert/rare-japanese-import-cd-pre-order/351810974020

    We have no idea if these sales accounted to much or when they were reported. If this is indeed the reason for the increase (and you don’t know anymore than I do), then RCA is doing an excellent job of promoting Adam to all markets and keeping his name out there. Perhaps Jive needs to watch and take some notes. :)

  6. Brian Mansfield reported album sales that were at 1K and I’m hoping that Kris didn’t fall THAT far.

    maybe Jive can repackage KA so that Kris’ fans have yet another reason to buy more copies? iirc, KA doesn’t offer many bonus tracks. Does LLWD have remix version?

  7. Did RCA and Jive do any repackaging of DC and DA’s albums? Just wondering.

  8. Kudos to RCA for doing such a great job promoting Adam. And major kudos to Adam for being such an impressive performer and coming up with such a kickass album.

  9. then RCA is doing an excellent job of promoting Adam to all markets and keeping his name out there. Perhaps Jive needs to watch and take some notes. :)

    Why does it always come back to a fanwar? What does Adam’s sales or his marketing strategy have to do with Jive or Kris? Absolutely nothing? Even if someone posted something that was negative about Adam or the “Glamberts,” I didn’t see Kris mentioned in that post, so I just do not understand why he gets dragged into it.

  10. I’m sorry, MJ. I usually don’t get so cranky. Going back to look at Cookie pics from Ethiopia, lol.

  11. Did RCA and Jive do any repackaging of DC and DA’s albums? Just wondering.

    How is the Japanese import a “repackaging”? I thought it was just the Japanese version of the cd being made available for sale on-line in the US, as the US version was available as an import (thru amazon or wherever) in other countries? Many artists sell slightly different versions of their albums in different markets — usually there are different bonus tracks. The UK version of FYE is going to include yet another bonus track. It is just good business sense to make the various versions available for sale in other countries if they include additional music that the artists fans will want.

  12. They repackage all of the CDs that are for international release. They often have exclusive tracks and bonus material too.

  13. I was wondering if anyone kows who did this spreadsheet with the idol single sales and whether it has been updated?

    http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=t4w6gZFaR0D7zLpjZfOjrng&single=true&gid=1&output=html

    Pretty cool that WWFM is at the same position as I Do Not Hook Up and Jesus Take The Wheel. I love to see those kind of comparisons- and I had no idea Mad World made it to #19 on Billboard? I wonder what it’s positions would have been if they allowed the numbers to be shown when they sang it?

  14. I’m curuious about the KATA’s japanese version. Did Jive advertise KA’s Japanese version on the official website as available in the US so fans can “save a plane ticket” to Japan? Were there new songs on the album.

    Is Sony or anyone here supposed to have the answer to this? Sounds like this is a question for Jive.

    Yaaay! For Adam having a BB top 20 hit!

  15. I’m curious about the KATA’s japanese version. Did Jive advertise KA’s Japanese version on the official website as available in the US so fans can “save a plane ticket” to Japan? Were there new songs on the album?

    No idea about KATA japanese or other foreign versions, but wasn’t there an exclusive Wal-Mart version that had a bonus track written by Daughtry? Good business by Jive to have different versions available for purchase in the US (itunes, wal-mart, regular). There is nothing at all unusual about marketing different versions of a cd with different bonus tracks (obviously in an effort to get fans to buy the various different versions, rather than just one).

  16. Brian Mansfield reported album sales that were at 1K and I’m hoping that Kris didn’t fall THAT far. Did Brian not get the numbers for KA? He got them for Carrie’s and Daughtry’s older albums that are out of the BB200.

    I hope not. I am genuinely concerned just as you are.

  17. Studio57

    No idea who put that together, but it hasn’t been updated for a couple weeks, anyway, since LLWD’s position is wrong on it.

  18. I think the Japanese version of KATA has No Boundaries. I saw the scans of the booklets over in IDF. The booklet also had the lyrics to the songs.

  19. tls62:
    04/01/2010 at 10:37 am
    I tried clicking on the Gokey article but it wouldn’t connect…this is an April Fool’s joke, right???

    I went back to the article and yes, it apparently is. It’s not nice to mess with my head in the morning before 3-4 cups of coffee.

  20. Why can’t they even announce what Kris’ next single is going to be just to generate some excitement and interest? They should really have fought harder to keep Kris’ album from falling out of the BB200. I don’t get it, a new single will take a while to work it’s way up. I am not a big Kris fan but even to me it seems like Jive is dropping the ball.

  21. Kris needs an AI performance asap (and not a IGB one). His single has done really well, so why not have him on to debut his new single? If I were his management I would push for an appearance next week…

    I am not going to worry until I see what happens to the next single… if that one connects, album sales should increase.

  22. Nina1

    You think that Gokey article was bad, trying waking up, and seeing on twitter a post supposedly from Kris’s publicist (Gina Orr) about how Kris has replaced Owl City on John Mayer’s summer tour — only to learn it’s an April Fools’ Day joke. Then Jim C posts an MP3 that’s supposed to be Kris’s song he wrote with Mat Kearney — nope, another April Fools’ Day prank.

    LOL — See, now that’s just mean, especially this early in the morning!

  23. Wow. Kudos to RCA for doing a good job repackaging the album so Glamberts have yet another reason to buy more copies.

    Well, there doesn’t seem to be a ton of Glamberts then. I mean, what did he have, a total of 500 more CDs sold than the previous week? Even if it’s 1,000 – that doesn’t seem like alot of Glamberts to me.

  24. I wish they would give the date for when Adam is going to be on AI and tell us what Kris’s new single is going to be and have him on AI to promote its release.

  25. Kris has replaced Owl City on John Mayer’s summer tour

    Haha, that’s not so far fetched it is? Looks like owl city will become a one hit wonder… their new single is not working right?

  26. OMG, the Gokey pokey????? Some of what goes around comes around, but some of what comes around should have been left for dead fifty years ago. The hokey pokey???? I’d rather twist again.

    I tried clicking on the Gokey article but it wouldn’t connect…this is an April Fool’s joke, right???

    Yeah; definitely an April Fool’s joke.

  27. Ahh, whatever, with the 3-guest-spots they have had lately on the result shows I am gonna guess that Kris will be on next week. I think Adam will be on the week after since he has concerts on the 8-9th in Canada… when is Kris coming home and does he have any gigs next week?

  28. Billboard chart info- last week’s ranks in ( )

    WWFM

    #20 Hot 100 (LW #21) – YAY TOP 20 hit! Congrats, Adam!!!
    #9 Canadian Hot 100 (LW #7)
    #12 Adult Pop (LW #13)
    #14 Pop (LW #14)
    #17 Adult Contemporary (LW #25) – YAY, Top 20!
    #20 Radio Songs (LW #20)
    #22 iLike Profiles: Most Added (LW NR)
    #25 Digital Songs (LW #24)

    LLWD

    #23 Hot 100 (LW #22)
    #4 Adult Pop (LW #5)
    #5 Yahoo Audio (LW #6)
    #15 Adult Contemporary (LW #16)
    #17 Pop Songs (LW #13)
    #22 Radio Songs (LW #17)
    #27 Christian (LW #28)
    #28 Digital (LW #28)
    #41 Canadian Hot 100 (LW #41)

    Life After You

    #37 Hot 100 (LW #38)
    #4 AOL Radio (LW #4)
    #6 Adult Pop (LW #6)
    #18 Adult Contemporary (LW #17)
    #19 Pop (LW #21) TOP 20 – YAY!
    #36 Canadian Hot 100 (LW #35)
    #39 Radio (LW #40)
    #49 Digital (LW #53)

    Temporary Home

    #41 Billboard Hot 100 (LW #41)
    #1 Country (LW #2) YAY BILLBOARD #1!!!!
    #26 Radio (LW #28)
    #65 Canadian Hot 100 (LW #72)
    #70 Digital (LW #72)

    My Best Days…

    #29 Country (LW #29)

    Dance on Vinyl

    #3 Dance/Club Play (LW #4)

    FYE

    #21 Dance/Club Play (LW #20)
    #76 Canadian Hot 100 (LW #75)

  29. I’m curious about the KATA’s japanese version. Did Jive advertise KA’s Japanese version on the official website as available in the US so fans can “save a plane ticket” to Japan? Were there new songs on the album?

    IDK, but if Jive didn’t- they missed out on an opportunity. Another FAIL by Jive.

  30. Idol appearances aren’t everything. I think it makes more sense to seperate the debut of the new song from AI, the AI crowd already knows who Kris is, and we know what their support amounts to. Besides, live performances work better when a song has already been playing on the radio for a while, and people are aware of the song.

    As far as announcing the new single, I know people are impatient, but it’s only been two weeks. It’s not like the people who live in areas where LLWD has been playing on the radio for the past six months have suddenly forgotten the song, or forgotten about Kris. The chart is so weak right now, so it’s a great time to release new music, but there’s no need to act like LLWD is no longer being played, or like it’s been months since the song peaked.

  31. Still looks like LLWD will get another week in the Top 20 on the mediabase Pop chart

    13 17 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dyin 4443 5477 -1034 23.25
    18 18 DAVID GUETTA Sexy Chick f/Akon 4056 4487 -431 29.71
    22 19 TREY SONGZ Say Aah 3984 3794 190 25.062
    19 20 JUSTIN BIEBER Baby 3699 4441 -742 18.044

    Meanwhile, on the Hot AC chart, the question is whether Daughtry will pass Kris before Kris passes Lifehouse…

    3 3 LIFEHOUSE Halfway Gone 3809 3907 -98 17.396
    5 4 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dyin 3724 3690 34 18.199
    6 5 DAUGHTRY Life After You 3676 3608 68 18.447

  32. Saga

    Kris is coming home on Friday, I think. He has a concert in Little Rock on Saturday, April 3rd. His next gig after that (assuming the TOMS Shoes event on 4/8 has indeed been canceled) is in Las Vegas on April 10th. He then has the April 15th concert here in L.A. opening for Lady Antebellum and the Bahamas gig on the 17th (packing packing, this is me packing). Back to L.A. for an acoustic radio gig on the 22nd then opening for Keith Urban at the hard Rock in Las Vegas on the 23rd.

  33. girlygirl you forgot the japan BB pos for fye…

    Idol appearances aren’t everything. I think it makes more sense to seperate the debut of the new song from AI, the AI crowd already knows who Kris is, and we know what their support amounts to.

    Huh, 20M audience, yes thank you, I’d like that. Last time Kris was on was to promote IGB and his charity single… not himself. I think he deserves a spot for himself and if he performs BWCU that will definetely connect. LLWD was not a good live song imo…

  34. Got oodles of Idols squished together on the AC chart…

    17 16 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dyin 259 205 54 2.04
    20 17 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 256 142 114 4.083
    22 18 DAUGHTRY Life After You 208 136 72 1.261

  35. saga

    The Japan chart isn’t listed on the Billboard site as far as I can tell. There was no listing on Adam’s page for FYE, anyway

    From what I saw on twitter, the April 8th concert was canceled because of unspecified “legal issues”

  36. I’m sorry, MJ. I usually don’t get so cranky. Going back to look at Cookie pics from Ethiopia, lol.

    Your point is well taken, I have SPECIFIC rules in my guidelines about that. The whole “Well you dissed MY Idol, now I’m going to DISS YOURS” deal promotes arguments rather than discussion.

  37. Looks like Kris is headed home.

    @jaredbridges
    Kris, Katy, Lizzie, Doug, & Candice left for the airport. Sadness. But tonight will be great!! #Bridge2Rwanda #TOMSshoes #newlifechurchtv

  38. Huh, 20M audience, yes thank you, I’d like that. Last time Kris was on was to promote IGB and his charity single… not himself. I think he deserves a spot for himself and if he performs BWCU that will definetely connect. LLWD was not a good live song imo…

    20 million is nice, but that doesn’t take into consideration what demographic the 20 million people fall into. For example, Allison’s performance on the show was pointless. The average AI viewer is not someone who would buy Allison’s music, so what was the purpose of booking her on the show? The audience is heavily skewed towards middle aged females, who normally listen to AC, sometimes HAC, and who don’t buy cds.

    Jive/19 need to establish who Kris is, aside from being the AI winner, and they aren’t going to do that if they think the only type of promotion he needs is AI appearances.

  39. The average AI viewer is not someone who would buy Allison’s music, so what was the purpose of booking her on the show? The audience is heavily skewed towards middle aged females, who normally listen to AC, sometimes HAC, and who don’t buy cds.

    Uhh… and why does P Diddy and Usher get an itune boost from performing on the show and Ruben doesn’t? There has to be a reason why AI can book the most current acts. I think it’s a damn good gig to get.

  40. Kris needs an AI performance asap (and not a IGB one). His single has done really well, so why not have him on to debut his new single? If I were his management I would push for an appearance next week…

    I would have been happy to see Kris last night instead of Usher! (Sorry, Usher. I love some of your stuff — but what you’re doing now, boring). Kris could have shown Katie what it looks like to be a clean-cut, attractive but not oversexed or sexist pop person with just a bit of R&B in your approach!

  41. I was surprised that Allison’s AI performance didn’t boost sales more,but it helped some. I don’t think Kris should wait till he is on AI to release his new single, unless he is on next Wednesday, than it would maybe make sense. The AI fans haven’t been as supportive this year by buying much of any of the season 8 contestants albums as they have been in the past with idol alums. All of the Season 8 idols with albums need outside support more that idols with albums in previous season. At least Kris, Adam and Danny are getting the radio play to help gain new fans, just wish Allison was too.

  42. Uhh

    … and why does P Diddy and Usher get an itune boost from performing on the show and Ruben doesn’t? There has to be a reason why AI can book the most current acts. I think it’s a damn good gig to get.

    I never said it wasn’t a good gig, just that it’s not as important or necessary as people are making it out to be. It’s much more important in Kris’, and in all the other alums cases, to establish that they are actual artists, and not just people who competed on a talent show, and that isn’t going to happen if 19 thinks that all they have to do in order to promote someone is book them on the show. BTW, those boosts are temporary, promoting people to those who actuatlly listen to the music makes more sense.

  43. Most t.v. appearances, whether on Idol or on a talk show like Letterman seems to give artists a short-term bump, not a long-term one. Where Jive/19 have really seemed to have dropped the ball is by delaying the 2nd single and not hooking Kris up on tour with an established artist. The gigs opening for Keith Urban and Daughtry are nice, but those total something like half-a-dozen gigs. He needs to get on a tour similar to what Danny is doing with being on the Sugarland tour (although with a pop/rock act, not country).

  44. How was Kris able to score a gig in the Bahamas? Is he really that popular there? I’m sure many bands/singers would play there for free considering all expenses were paid.

    Adam being #1 on Japans’s BB — is that determined like here in the US? Sales and spins?

  45. girlygirl, at least Kris has had many concerts already. Adam has only done one so far and with two coming up in more than a week. He doesn’t seem to be starting his tour until mid or late summer.

    At least Kris is making money.

  46. BestAI

    I think it may be an AI-related gig. I know Kelly has played the Atlantis. Kris is playing in the bigger of the venues in the resort, not the smaller one, so that’s cool.

    And yeah, I hope Adam starts playing a few more gigs. He’s had more than one, though if you include the VH1 concert and all the stuff he’s done overseas. Are you going to either of his concerts in Vancouver next week?

  47. At least Kris is making money.

    Hmmmm….unless you have some access to profit/loss info from Jive and RCA, I don’t think any of us know for sure who’s making how much or little for their label. It would be cool info to have, but I sure haven’t seen anything released from either label to support your statement. I certainly stand corrected if you have, and I would love to read it. :)

  48. Adam being #1 on Japans’s BB — is that determined like here in the US? Sales and spins?

    girlgirl, at least Kris has had many concerts already. Adam has only done one so far and with two coming up in more than a week. He doesn’t seem to be starting his tour until mid or late summer.

    At least Kris is making money.

    FYE single in #1 on the BB japan airplay chart; it is #3 (or #2, not sure) on the japan BB hot 100, which is the combo on various airplay/sales etc. (like the us and canada hot 100)

    Adam is making money — just from a variety of sources. He did a watch advertisement, probably for paid for the ET grammy gig, had the FS and the upcoming Vancouver shows etc. He has also performed quite a bit..don’t forget he did the unplugged and stripped gigs, the rock my town concert with kris and allison, and all of these various showcases abroad. He also has the Glaad and wango tango appearances and G-A_Y club appearances coming up, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he appeared at a few other radio station spring fling type gigs in May and June to help promote IIHY.

  49. Then Jim C posts an MP3 that’s supposed to be Kris’s song he wrote with Mat Kearney — nope, another April Fools’ Day prank.

    Yeah, he got me on that too…

    I agree Adam isn’t making touring money right now, but hopefully all the promo work is turning into sales revenue.

  50. FYE single in #1 on the BB japan airplay chart; it is #3 (or #2, not sure) on the japan BB hot 100, which is the combo on various airplay/sales etc. (like the us and canada hot 100)

    I heard the BB Japan is aiplay and physical singles sales, not digital… so it does not really represent sales.

  51. I don’t think either Kris or Adam are making money hand over fist. They have to pay their band members and various crew people, after all. Not to mention all the bills that most people have to pay (rent, taxes, etc.). And they only get a small % of royalties from album and single sales. I’m sure they are doing ok, financially, but somehow I doubt either is suddenly rolling in cash.

  52. And regarding Kris and an AI gig… I do think it would be an important thing for him right now (I am sure there are other important things as well). It’s the #1 TV show and somehow people are not connecting LLWD to Kris as much as we would like to… I’d say he has a bit of “flying under the radar” problem. So a TV gig where he can strengthen the presentation of himself as an artist is pure win for him and much needed right now.

  53. I think Jive is bulding a marketing strategic for Kris, we just need to be patience. Kris single is a huge hit, he is talent and good looking. I really don’t find any reason to drop the ball, I think Jive just wants to make things right this and they’re not focus only in the short term (actual sales numbers, charts positons, spins) I think they’re working thinking on the long term and at the end it will work :)
    I remember a lot of people saying that RCA was doing a horrible job promoting Adam and now people say that RCA was smart…

    I think Jive belives in Kris as we do. Let’s waiit :)

  54. Susan Boyle is only 49?????????? i thought she was at least in her late 50s.

  55. After dissing delusional contestants who “can’t sing,” and the enablers who encourage them, Darius Rucker says his favorite this year was — wait for it — Haeley Vaughn! And he thinks he would make a great replacement for Simon? Please keep your day job Darius.

  56. Thanks MJ for the Daily Collegian article on Daughtry’s concert at PSU. 5,500 is a great turnout. Sounds like he was a big hit in Happy Valley! :-)

    Those April Fools jokes are funny! My daughter replaced my husband’s cereal with dogfood and he was amused. Any other good laughs today?

  57. Susan Boyle is only 49?????????? i thought she was at least in her late 50s.

    Another April Fool’s joke??

  58. The article about social media predicting Idol results is interesting, but I don’t think chatter about idols is a good measure of where they stand in the vote tally.

    If you go to the source cited, http://idolstats.com , Tim is ranked first in the share of conversation, but he’s been in the bottom three how many times?

    All the same, it’s always fun to see another way to try to measure a contestant’s buzz.

  59. girlygirl:
    04/01/2010 at 11:18 am
    Can I just say I hate April Fools’ Day? Thank you.

    Carry on!

    LOL – me too. My rule today is I’m not trusting anything ;-) Already tons of twitter rumors about Adam that were like, uh, April Fools, guys!

  60. The article about social media predicting Idol results is interesting, but I don’t think chatter about idols is a good measure of where they stand in the vote tally.

    My short answer to this article, is, no, it can’t predict it – with Adam being the best example. He had by far the most buzz last year, but didn’t get the win – just too many variables at play, particularly when you’re only down to the last few.

    That said, I do think it probably gives you a pretty good idea of popularity and longevity in the competition, unless the press is for all the wrong reasons. Tim Urban is a good example this year – I think he may have some of the highest buzz, but its almost “Sanjaya”-esque – not really because he’s GOOD or expected to win.

  61. BB200 (rankings only)
    TW LW
    27 26 I Dreamed A Dream-Susan Boyle
    31 28 Play On-Carrie Underwood
    50 33 My Best Days-Danny Gokey
    65 71 For Your Entertainment-Adam Lambert
    72 64 Leave This Town-Daughtry
    93 98 Glee: Season One: The Music …Soundtrack
    94 92 Glee: Season One: The Music …Soundtrack
    196 187 Daughtry-Daughtry

  62. I remember a lot of people saying that RCA was doing a horrible job promoting Adam and now people say that RCA was smart…

    I liked the comment a few days ago that RCA seems to be getting SMARTER about how to promote Adam – that he is such a new commodity for what is out there now, and from what they’re used to dealing with, that there were stumbles in the early months trying to figure out the best approach. But that now that a few months have passed, a clearer plan is emerging. I think the int’l stuff has really helped solidify that, because Adam is an easier sell (in general) overseas due to the more liberal attitudes there compared to the US.

  63. it can’t predict it – with Adam being the best example. He had by far the most buzz last year, but didn’t get the win –

    Yep, Adam is the person I thought of first. And at the other end of the spectrum, Lil Rounds lasted longer than her web buzz would have indicated, IIRC. There are many examples in between.

    Tim Urban is a good example this year – I think he may have some of the highest buzz, but its almost “Sanjaya”-esque – not really because he’s GOOD or expected to win.

    That was my thought too. But, I looked at the idolstats site, and it measures his buzz are 75% positive to 25% negative!!! I skeptical of that! (But not at all surprised that Tim has the highest amount of conversation.)

    Zabasearch tried to predict voting outcome by some similar method. They were wrong many times and would change their prediction after the fact. lol, they aren’t even trying this year.

  64. Thanks MJ for the Daily Collegian article on Daughtry’s concert at PSU. 5,500 is a great turnout. Sounds like he was a big hit in Happy Valley!

    I ALWAYS give link-love to the Daily Collegian when I can (I wrote for them back in the day)

  65. I always had confidence in RCA/Jive and thought they have done well with Kradison, until they decided for Scars as the next single for Allison… that was a bad decision that could be spotted from miles away (by me at least). Not really liking that they drag out the announcement of Kris’ next single either but I agree it’s too early to tell what their plans are. I am sure they know what they are doing.

  66. The average AI viewer is not someone who would buy Allison’s music, so what was the purpose of booking her on the show? The audience is heavily skewed towards middle aged females, who normally listen to AC, sometimes HAC, and who don’t buy cds.

    Uhh… and why does P Diddy and Usher get an itune boost from performing on the show and Ruben doesn’t? There has to be a reason why AI can book the most current acts. I think it’s a damn good gig to get.

    hmmm…good point. Haven’t most performers received iTunes boosts from their appearance? Didn’t Cook and Archie get nice album sales increases last year?
    Kris was the AI winner last year. He will get a boost to his album numbers when he performs.

  67. The average AI viewer is not someone who would buy Allison’s music, so what was the purpose of booking her on the show? The audience is heavily skewed towards middle aged females, who normally listen to AC, sometimes HAC, and who don’t buy cds.

    allison’s appearance did nothing for Scars (seriously, WTF with releasing that as a single???!!??) but it gave her a big percentage increase in cd sales and boosted her cd back into the BB200 for a week so she did get some benefit. And Kris’ cd got a big boost from his appearance as well (didn’t it jump like 80 places on the BB 200 and get back into the top 100 for a week?) I get the point that the OP was trying to make tho — Jive/RCA/19 should not focus their marketing efforts around an AI appearance. That more effort should be made to non-AI oriented marketing.

  68. girlygirl, I tried to get tickets for the Indio and Vancouver concerts. I started at 9:45 just to make sure I was in their queue; by 10:20, I read that his tickets were sold out. I would pay premium prices for a good cause, but not to put money in the scalpers’ pockets.

    I thought Kris was doing well because he already has had numerous paid gigs. He also does the Ford commercials and has the Tom shoes endorsement.

  69. I am still baffled by Ruben. Can’t find him anywhere in the top 200 last I looked. The only other person that didn’t get a bump that I can think of is Kesha, but she was already at #11 and it is harder to get a bump when you are that high on the chart already.

    Not only did OMG get a bump for Usher but there are 5 other songs of his in the top 100- and they are not all off this new album. I don’t get how people would want to run out and buy his stuff after how bad he sounded.

    BTW- that Rick Ross remix of Ruben’s song is cool- that’s the one I downloaded. He should have done that on the show- it’s more current.

    ETA: forgot about Allison. i am sorry but that song just sucked live. Have no idea how it sounds on the record but what a stupid choice to have that as a single. I only heard snippets of her stuff but Holiday to me sounds like the only hit on there.

  70. I get the point that the OP was trying to make tho — Jive/RCA/19 should not focus their marketing efforts around an AI appearance. That more effort should be made to non-AI oriented marketing.

    Yeah, but I think they can handle both types of gigs. And they already have Kris involved in lots of AI but for IGB, not for his own stuff. I would focus more on gigs that would show Kris the artist, no matter where those gigs are, showing his material. I just happen to think that TV is a very effective way (though not long term, but he had a hit on radio) to communicate that. And performing on idol is one of the better TV gigs.

  71. Yeah, but I think they can handle both types of gigs. And they already have Kris involved in lots of AI but for IGB, not for his own stuff. I would focus more on gigs that would show Kris the artist, no matter where those gigs are. I just happen to think that TV is a very effective way (though not long term, but he had a hit on radio) to communicate that. And performing on idol is one of the better TV gigs.

    Oh ITA….I don’t think anyone was suggesting that Kris or anyone else not appear on Idol or that Idol should not be a a part of the promo plan. And in this day and age TV is for sure one of the most effective ways to reach a large group of people.

  72. mmb: My hairdresser was talking about SuBo and thought she was around 70. She was shocked when I told her she was younger than Simon, who just turned 50.

  73. Kesha did eventually get a small bump, maybe because Perez posted her performance… She went from #11 to #10.

  74. mmb: My hairdresser was talking about SuBo and thought she was around 70. She was shocked when I told her she was younger than Simon, who just turned 50.

    Honestly the Subo is 49 thing kinda freaked me out today. Even post-makeover she looks 10-20 years older than every 40 -something person I know, and many 50-somethings. Not making fun of her, just so surprised. Oh well, looks fade for everyone, but if invested wisely millions and millions and millions of dollars in royalties can last a lifetime!

  75. Not only did OMG get a bump for Usher but there are 5 other songs of his in the top 100- and they are not all off this new album. I don’t get how people would want to run out and buy his stuff after how bad he sounded.

    Because they liked the way he *looked.* Seriously. I can’t see that there’s any other explanation!

  76. Not only did OMG get a bump for Usher but there are 5 other songs of his in the top 100- and they are not all off this new album. I don’t get how people would want to run out and buy his stuff after how bad he sounded.

    Because they liked the way he *looked.* Seriously. I can’t see that there’s any other explanation!

    I dunno…I thought OMG was a tuneless mess, but my almost 10 yo son LOVED LOVED LOVED the Usher performance and was repeating the “OMG” line all night and again this am. I have clearly failed as a parent.

  77. Maybe SuBo just looks older because she isn’t obsessed with looking like she is in her 20’s when she is a middle aged woman. It is pretty scary looking in magazines and seeing women in their 60’s airbrushed and wrinkle free. I think it makes women that don’t try to look younger look older when actually they just look their age.

  78. I wonder if Joe Jonas had a single to promote if he would have gotten a bump from last weeks’s appearance. There was nothing good about his performance. His singing was atrocious; he really does not have a good singing voice at all. He had no stage presence. I really dislike singers using lots of gestures when they don’t have the vocals to back it up.

  79. I believe the download for Allison’s CD was normal, but for the actual CD I had to pay $20 (Canadian). That’s steep, seeing that most CD’s are less than $12. I noticed on one of the links given in the Adam thread, that in England Adam’s CD is 15 pounds or so and Allison’s, again, is 30!! Could that be a reason for her not selling? It’s a good CD, but…

    As far as the demographic for American Idol. I wonder if there is one, if you look at the number of viewers. It’s massive. Surely it’s a very diverse audience?

  80. The fact that a song performed on Idol doesn’t get an immediate boost on iTunes is a bad sign. Although maybe the audience that would like Ruben’s Adult Urban stuff really isn’t well represented in the Idol demo. However Scars is going for Top 40 so it should have gotten a boost.

  81. I thought Kris was doing well because he already has had numerous paid gigs. He also does the Ford commercials and has the Tom shoes endorsement.

    I don’t get the sense that Kris is being paid to represent TOMS. I thought he was doing the shoe drop because he believed in the cause and because he helped bring TOMS and Bridge2Rwanda together (it’s a mission group from his church I think). Of course I could be wrong…

  82. I had to run back to iTunes to watch Adam’s performances to clean my eardrums. LOL!

    LOL.. I know what you mean.. A lot of Kris fans have been rewatching his version of ANS on repeat since Aaron attempted to sing it on Tuesday. I may not like when Adam hits the high notes, but at least he does them in tune. This year feels like they are trying to copy past contestants (&failing) instead of just loosening up and being themselves.

    Sidenote: I just recently rewatched all of Kris’s performances from last year. People might say that he is boring, but from day 1 he looked so relaxed and was able to connect with the audience even when he was behind his guitar. Plus, he had several moments over the course of the season. One other thing I noticed was that the judges generally seemed to like him and think he did a good job most of the time. It is a lot of fun to re-watch the performances (especially with this season stinking). I think S9 contestants could really benefit from watching all of the S8 performances of the top 5 contestants. I think the biggest thing this years contestants are missing, is the connection with the audience and each other. Last year was a lot of fun to watch. This year feels painful.

  83. I actually enjoyed this week’s Idol for the first time. I thought there were numerous good performances; Casey, Lee, Crystal, Andrew.
    And I get a kick out of Tim Urban; he is not going to let anyone drag him down!

  84. People might say that he is boring, but from day 1 he looked so relaxed and was able to connect with the audience even when he was behind his guitar.

    I do think that this may be the main difference between some previous seasons and this one. In most other seasons, more people were more relaxed as performers from the beginning, or fairly quickly became more relaxed (see Yamin, Elliott), while this year so many of the group have been tense and muffled all along and remain so.

    When it comes to talent and not-so-much talent, seems to me that most top 12s have had fairly equivalent amounts — that’s certainly true when it comes to the “great recording voice” characteristic, if maybe less so in some other ways. But I don’t remember quite such a high level of self-consciousness in quite so many contestants before. Even a bunch of the frontrunners like Crystal and Casey seem very very bundled up and self-conscious/tense in this group.

  85. From Joel Mchale’s twitter:

    joelmchale Sorry! Got the password wrong again for @RyanSeacrest ‘s twitter. It’s “MetroFrodoBaggins”. Enjoy. #seacresthacked 12 minutes ago reply
    joelmchale Okay I was wrong about @RyanSeacrest ‘s first twitter password. It’s actually: “LittleEllenJockeyPants” 55 minutes ago reply
    joelmchale I stole @RyanSeacrest ‘s twitter password. “frostedtipboosterseat”. Have at it. about 1 hour ago reply

    lol. I love Joel.

  86. I think the biggest thing this years contestants are missing, is the connection with the audience and each other. Last year was a lot of fun to watch. This year feels painful.

    I think this too. I know there was the mansion last year but it just seems like this whole group is disconnected. Until they start crying when someone gets kicked off, it’s hard to tell if they even like either other. I know they don’t have to like anyone, but it makes for an enjoyable season. Competition amongst friends. Who can forget the Kradam finger nail painting or even the two davids at the end. Great tv.

    And I do miss Paula. She was wacky, but such a ray of positive energy, you just knew she was going to have something good so say about everyone. Maybe it’s not especially helpful, but the contestants got some confidence. Which is sorely lacking this year.

    I will say I enjoyed Crystal and Lee this week and until now, I really haven’t enjoyed anyone. I like Siobhan’s interview packages more than her singing.

  87. Competition amongst friends. Who can forget the Kradam finger nail painting

    sorry, I have no idea what your talking about, and I hate that fan generated Kradison shit. I don’t care if they are friends, it is just a way for fans to be even more stalkerish. Also, that Kradison and Kradam bull from last year seemed like just some nasty middle school crap about excluding Danny and his fans.

  88. sorry, I have no idea what your talking about, and I hate that fan generated Kradison shit. I don’t care if they are friends, it is just a way for fans to be even more stalkerish. Also, that Kradison and Kradam bull from last year seemed like just some nasty middle school crap about excluding Danny and his fans.

    LOL – yep, that’s exactly what it was. And good friends competing with each other in a respectful way should always be avoided because the true intentions behind it are always cruel and mean-spirited. /sarcasm

    I think many fans of AI will take the Kradam, Kradison, Kratt, various S7 pairings anyday over a group of cloistered, quiet, keep-to-themselves types, which is definitely the vibe I’m getting this year as well. They’re nice kids, but I just don’t see the comraderie or friendship. A friend blames it a bit on nerves and inexperience. When you have more experienced people, they can relax a bit more and concentrate less on JUST the performances each week. This year, I think that’s not the case as much.

    I think this too. I know there was the mansion last year but it just seems like this whole group is disconnected.

    So, where are they living this year? No mention of the mansion, which was really cool last year, and I think helped foster the friendships that developed between everyone. Certainly AI still has the money to shell out for the mansion rental (or just use one of Simon’s extra mansions, lol)

  89. LOL – yep, that’s exactly what it was. And good friends competing with each other in a respectful way should always be avoided because the true intentions behind it are always cruel and mean-spirited.

    Im not talking about their actual relationships, Im talking about the whole concept of Kradison and Karadam which was just imaginary fan stuff projecting, and a way to act like Danny and is fans were out of the loop.

    You don’t KNOW any of these people, the whole matching people up into friendships is a way for delusional fans to pretend they understand and are taking a part in the the actual dynamics that are going on off the show.

  90. Well this year I think roommates are getting eliminated around the same time. Lily and Katelyn were roommates, Lacey and Paige were roommates and Todrick and Alex, maybe that is why the relationships don’t seem as close this year. I never really thought that Adam and Kris were really any closer to each other than either one was with Danny.

  91. So, where are they living this year? No mention of the mansion, which was really cool last year, and I think helped foster the friendships that developed between everyone. Certainly AI still has the money to shell out for the mansion rental (or just use one of Simon’s extra mansions, lol)

    The kids lived together in a mansion only during seasons 1,2,3 and 8. That’s it. 4,5,6,7 and 9, the kids lived in condos.

    Season 7 seemed like a pretty tight bunch, and they didn’t need no stinking mansion.

    They spend very little time at home, due to their schedules, so renting a mansion was really a waste. That’s why they stopped doing it Season 4. The kids spend a lot of time together, but that time is spent working at the studio, on shoots, etc.

  92. sorry, I have no idea what your talking about, and I hate that fan generated Kradison shit.

    That’s just it…..it’s not fan generated. Those three truly like each other and it was fun to watch. They’re still fun to watch; they truly respect each other and dig each other. This is reality TV. It’s supposed to entertain us…. I’m far from entertained this year.

  93. sorry, I have no idea what your talking about, and I hate that fan generated Kradison shit. I don’t care if they are friends, it is just a way for fans to be even more stalkerish. Also, that Kradison and Kradam bull from last year seemed like just some nasty middle school crap about excluding Danny and his fans.

    This picture was on the official idol website, so you can’t blame the fans for everything. they are friends and it showed on tv. If someone from this season makes friends like that, I’m gonna think it’s pretty cute too.

    http://i43.tinypic.com/29eq074.jpg

  94. I never really thought that Adam and Kris were really any closer to each other than either one was with Danny.

    The “Group Two” contestants, Adam, Kris and Allison, all have commented on how they were and are close to one another. Hence “Kradison”. Gokey, Matt, Michael and sometimes Anoop (when he wasn’t making fun of their silly voices) seemed to bond as well according to their bubble tweets. I think there were varying degrees of friendships with the others outside of these circle of friends. Megan and Adam bonded it seems and Allison had different relationships with both Lil and Danny. Michael is the first to come to any of the others support or promotion. And they all seemed to be honestly thrilled when Matt was “saved”. The only one who seemed to be routinely the “fifth wheel” was Scott.

  95. You don’t KNOW any of these people, the whole matching people up into friendships is a way for delusional fans to pretend they understand and are taking a part in the the actual dynamics that are going on off the show.

    It’s true some fans carry the shipping a bit far, but it’s no delusional dream that Kris, Allison and Adam hit it off. It’s no big deal, it just made it fun to watch them enjoying themselves and having fun with each other.

  96. to clarify, not Kradam in a shipping way.. eww no. Because Kris is married, duh..

  97. “Idol Gives Back” Performers Announced

    http://www.ainow.org/index.php/top-stories/2402-qidol-gives-backq-performers-announced

    Alicia Keys, Carrie Underwood, The Black Eyed Peas, Annie Lennox and Jeff Beck are all scheduled to perform.

    Along with these performances, footage from David Cook’s trip to Ethiopia will be shown. Click here to see some images from his trip.

    Additional performances and appearances will be announced at a later date.

    “Idol Gives Back” airs Wednesday, April 21st from 8-10pm ET.

  98. I was gonna write up something long about how Kradam was an actual friendship, and that anything beyond that was generally contained within smaller fan groups and harmless anyway, but this pic did the job much better, thank you, sr4mjc:

    http://i43.tinypic.com/29eq074.jpg

    And I don’t think it was ever an intentional slight on Danny, FTR. Some friendships just strike up differently.

    The kids lived together in a mansion only during seasons 1,2,3 and 8. That’s it. 4,5,6,7 and 9, the kids lived in condos.

    Season 7 seemed like a pretty tight bunch, and they didn’t need no stinking mansion.

    They spend very little time at home, due to their schedules, so renting a mansion was really a waste. That’s why they stopped doing it Season 4. The kids spend a lot of time together, but that time is spent working at the studio, on shoots, etc.

    Ahh, thanks for the info, MJ – I didn’t know this.

  99. Susan Boyle is only 49?????????? i thought she was at least in her late 50s

    I believe she is the same age as Heather Locklear.

  100. Of course sr4mjc…..that’s what I meant as well. :)

    I truly miss those guys. Adam and Kris were so good for each other and the way they bonded with Allison as a friend and seemed to look over her as a little sister was fun.

  101. You don’t KNOW any of these people, the whole matching people up into friendships is a way for delusional fans to pretend they understand and are taking a part in the the actual dynamics that are going on off the show.

    Why is it such a big deal if they are friends? Matt,Gokey, and Anoop have all spent time in each others homes since their season ended. That seems to indicate friendship to me. The S7 folks got together for a night out to see Cook perform over a year after their season ended. Another sign of friendship. Adam, Allison and Kris often tweet each other and continue to keep in touch. Friends again. Why is it so hard to believe these folks might actually like each other? Its a good thing!

  102. Why is it such a big deal if they are friends? Matt,Gokey, and Anoop have all spent time in each others homes since their season ended. That seems to indicate friendship to me. The S7 folks got together for a night out to see Cook perform over a year after their season ended. Another sign of friendship. Adam, Allison and Kris often tweet each other and continue to keep in touch. Friends again. Why is it so hard to believe these folks might actually like each other? Its a good thing!

    LOL – I know! I feel like the genuine friendships between these guys (which seems pretty genuine to me), is suddenly seen as a bad thing. Um, what?

  103. Why is it such a big deal if they are friends?

    But that is exactly what I am saying. Why is it a big deal that any of them are friends? Why would it be a big deal if no one this season was friends? Why do you care who is friends with who? Again, none of you know them personally, so why do you care who is friends with who? It is the fans who get weird about it and assign names and attach huge meanings to every gesture on the show and every picture on the idol website and act like they are almost participants in that friendship. That is what is annoying. Again, I don’t care that Adam and Kris are friends, and I found it weird last year that so many people did…

  104. Fans speculate about the contestants’ opinions of their mentors, their judges, their choice of material, and all of that is usually based on a few seconds of footage or (this year) an errant tweet or two.

    So I don’t see that people seeing friendships between contestants, who are going through the same experience at the same time, and who often describe their time together in detail, is somehow projecting. Or that it’s somehow strange to say that watching people have a good time in each other’s company is more entertaining than watching people who don’t seem interested in each other.

    That said, there’s a difference between emotional awareness and writing fanfiction. And I hate portmanteau names.

  105. I don’t ship anyone and I don’t have names for any groups and really don’t like them (I don’t want Mavids or Kradams or whatever)… but I don’t think it’s a stretch into delusion that Kris/Adam/Allison were friends… or Cook and Michael… or whatever. No, we don’t know any of these folks, which is why it’s just as speculative to say they *aren’t* friends. But it’s a reality show that makes people feel like they *do* have some way of taking part, so it’s not surprising that people get pretty involved.

    Now that said, there definitely seems to be a disconnect this year… maybe some of these folks are really good friends but it seems like it might be more little small groups than the bulk of the group getting along really well. And maybe it isn’t even that so much as everyone is really guarded. I was watching that goofy group song from S7 top 10 (I know, I just found all the HD vids and I gotta watch) and they just seem to have completely thrown themselves into the goofiness. (If nothing else, it’s worth watching to see Castro flailing around, heh). This group… maybe they just don’t have the confidence to just let go and enjoy it, I don’t know. It’s a quiet bunch!

  106. Zabasearch tried to predict voting outcome by some similar method. They were wrong many times and would change their prediction after the fact. lol, they aren’t even trying this year.

    Zaba usually doesn’t start their predictions until the bottom 5. Funny, I have always found them quite accurate except for Kris winning.

  107. Why is it such a big deal if they are friends?
    But that is exactly what I am saying. Why is it a big deal that any of them are friends? Why would it be a big deal if no one this season was friends? Why do you care who is friends with who? Again, none of you know them personally, so why do you care who is friends with who?

    Maybe because for a lot of people, at the end of the day, it’s a TV show, and one of the ways we are entertained is to be interested in these “characters”, be it through their performances, glimpses of their personalities with the little Ryan chats, or their interactions with each other. I happen to eat that friendship shit up cuz it’s cute and fun for me as a TV watcher. What’s the BFD? Why rain on fans’ parade if they enjoy seeing friendships. No one is saying OMGZ we MUST be cray cray to enjoy seeing friendships and interactions cuz we don’t know them personally.

    I like going to U2 concerts and watching Bono and the Edge bromance it up on stage and off. It warms my heart a little and I find those old guys who’ve known each other for centuries (sorry, j/k) fucking adorable. Do I feel thus that I KNOW THEM PERSONALLY? No. Why does it matter?

  108. But that is exactly what I am saying. Why is it a big deal that any of them are friends? Why would it be a big deal if no one this season was friends? Why do you care who is friends with who? Again, none of you know them personally, so why do you care who is friends with who?

    I just find it makes the season more enjoyable for me. I do like to get to know the dynamics and personalities and I like seeing the support between contestants. It makes for better tv, for me. This group leaves me cold. On the whole, they look uncomfortable and unsure and it’s hard to get into any of it, I feel no need to root for anyone or even vote. The pool is keeping me going this year and I know I won’t like every year, this is just one that isn’t clicking for me.

    But I also look at the show with the post-season in mind, which I know you and I have disagreed about in the past. I think about what music I want to buy later, who’s concert I want to go to.

    Or that it’s somehow strange to say that watching people have a good time in each other’s company is more entertaining than watching people who don’t seem interested in each other.

    yes to this, this is what I meant!

  109. #31 is for Carrie. I think it’s part of an April fools joke at Pulse. heh

    BB200
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    31 the Hutt*Jabba BABY DARLING DOLL 14,880 16,308 -9 1,424,826
    50 GOKEY*DANNY MY BEST DAYS 9,929 14,852 -33 111,788
    65 LAMBERT*ADAM FOR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT 8,258 7,807 6 577,526
    72 DAUGHTRY LEAVE THIS TOWN 7,652 8,201 -7 1,001,885
    93 GLEE CAST GLEE: THE MUSIC, V2 5,971 5,447 10 559,765
    94 GLEE CAST GLEE: THE MUSIC V1 5,911 5,574 6 760,919
    196 DAUGHTRY DAUGHTRY 2,887 3,157 -9 4,656,154

    Total sales for the BB200 chart:
    Total Sales 2,343,335 1,887,641 24% 199,781,476

  110. Why would it be a big deal if no one this season was friends? Why do you care who is friends with who? Again, none of you know them personally, so why do you care who is friends with who?

    I don’t think that’s the point of what people are discussing, whether or not they are friends and who is friends with who. It’s just people trying to figure out why it is so *flat*. The friendships and chemistry and fun makes it more interesting. This group tends to kinda be a bunch of lumps :) I could care less who is friends with who, but a little more fun and camaraderie would liven things up a bit. They don’t seem like they are having much fun. I hope it isn’t ’cause they are reading the press and such and taking that worst season ever stuff too hard. Have fun, peeps! Show us that you are interesting enough that we’ll want to buy tix to the tour…

  111. To me, it wasn’t just the friendship between 2 or 3 people, it was the fact that they all seemed to get along and respect each other. The same seemed to be true for S7. I think that mattered because it helped most of them relax and be able to do their best on stage. They knew that they had people in their corner that was going through the exact same thing. BTW: I am not into shipping.. I think people can be friends without any strings or ulterior motives.

    This year it appears that there are some individual friendships, but it doesn’t seem like the group are friends or connect as a whole. That, along with the fact that most of them are having a hard time connecting with the audience, feels like the biggest problem this year.

    (edited: or what tierbee said..)

  112. Why do you care who is friends with who? Again, none of you know them personally, so why do you care who is friends with who?

    Speaking for myself, it makes me happy to see others happy. I enjoyed watching the top 10 from last year because they enjoyed each other, interacted on a sincere level and had fun. That’s absent this year. As for who was friends with who….I didn’t care, it just happened that Kris, Adam and Allison hit it off and it made for fun TV for me.

  113. Why is it a big deal that any of them are friends? Why would it be a big deal if no one this season was friends? Why do you care who is friends with who?

    Because we like getting to know something about these people we are watching? Because its good to know that they are finding some fun times beyond the stress of all the preperation and dealines they have for the show each week? Because it makes them a little more human and not merely players for our entertainment? Because it often can result in having a lot of fun for and with the fans (think “Mavid”)? Because some of us find it extraordinary (and commendable) that these folks can forge strong friendships with their “competitors”? Because it is just nice to see?
    I don’t stalk these performers, but I do like to know when friendships are made just like I like to hear that people like Julia Roberts and Brad Pitt and George Clooney are close friends. Or that MJ and Jim Cantiello and Sleazak are twitter buddies on Idol nights. It’s just good for a smile or a laugh.

  114. Competition amongst friends. Who can forget the Kradam finger nail painting

    sorry, I have no idea what your talking about, and I hate that fan generated Kradison shit.

    Actually, the finger nail painting was not fan generated (why do I remember this stuff?).

    Kris and Adam were roommates and the tabloids had started some rumour about how they were feuding. One of the specifc items they were apparently feuding about was Adam leaving his nailpolish lying around everywhere. That weekend was the “Home Town Visit” and the footage clearly showed Kris wearing nail polish (and then there was that photo that sr4mjc posted. People speculated, but it was Kris himself who was later asked in an interview about that. He said that he had Adam paint his thumbnail to show solidarity and what a bunch of bunk those tabloid articles were. Adam and Kris couldn’t address the issue publicly during the competition, so they responded with actions.

    I think it was a nice moment and in no way excludes Danny since he was not sharing a room with them and was not part of the tabloid rumours.

  115. I don’t think that’s the point of what people are discussing, whether or not they are friends and who is friends with who. It’s just people trying to figure out why it is so *flat*. The friendships and chemistry and fun makes it more interesting.

    And to add to the debate and make clear this isn’t “Let’s Hate Danny” in code, one of the best moments of friendship last year was when Danny initiated the “Save Matt” cheer. Even many cold-hearted, hard boiled Idol watchers got warm fuzzies from that. It truly seemed to show that the group cared about each other.

    Doesn’t mean that this group doesn’t either, but maybe TPTB should give them some chances to show it.

  116. OK maybe what is missing this year is contestants that can look beyond the competition bit? I noticed that Didi commented that it was hard liking people and then having to compete against them and that they all were like isolated islands, trying to do their thing. Maybe that’s why they are insecure and tensed (not having the group back-up that s7-8 seems to have created)?

  117. I don’t think that’s the point of what people are discussing, whether or not they are friends and who is friends with who. It’s just people trying to figure out why it is so *flat*.

    Yes, personality!!! There were lots of big personalities from last season, between Adam’s guyliner, Danny talking to the judges and his glasses and Allison’s outfits, Anoop sassing Kara.
    Scared little mouses this year.

  118. They definitely lack group chemistry (it may be there in “real life” but it sure falls flat onscreen).

    The more interesting mystery for me this season are the intermittent group numbers…is this group just incapable of doing a number every week? And a lip synced number at that! How will they survive the multiple performances of Idol Gives Back? Will they ever be able to sing together as a group live? Will the first time be the finale? So many questions…

  119. I think another thing is the disconnect among the judges, the contestants, and Ryan. It just feels like people are there doing their time and have officially checked out of the season.. Things often feel uncomfortable in general. Sometimes the judges or Ryan appear to be trying to make these kids break down. Is it really good TV to try to see which one will crumble first? To me, that is not fun to watch.

    I agree with Indigobunting.. Personality is the biggest thing missing. Even the more quiet one’s like Kris showed personality. Rewatching his performances, his facial expressions are a lot of fun to watch (he reminds me of Snoopy dancing-during a part of Remember the time–this is a good thing to me–so much joy and happiness just to be there). He wasn’t all stiff like Casey and Lee are this year. I just want to shake those two and tell them to loosen up when I watch them. I like both of their voices, so there is hope if they can just start enjoying the experience a little more.

  120. thedavidcook: Just landed back in the USA. Almost done flying. 24 hours of planes and airports.
    about 3 hours ago via Tweetie

  121. Adam, Kris and Allison became close because they were from Gr 2. When they made it to the top 12, they did the interview circuit together. So, bam, right off, they became the trio. Thus, Danny was not in their little “clique” from the beginning. When they toured during the summer, all ten (with the exception of Scott) became really close. Michael was closest to Danny before the tour, but he talked about Adam quite a bit during and after. Adam and Danny also seemed to get really close towards the end of the tour (if you watch the videos of DSB).

    AI is a reality show, so it’s fun to see the interactions and friendships.

    I don’t know why S7 and 8 finalists seemed to get along better than the other seasons. It’s still early in S9, so friendships can still develop, and there is still the tour.

  122. Welcomehomeadam is trending:

    #nowplaying
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    · #bbcqt
    · #aprilfools
    · #dontyouhatewhen
    · Justin Bieber
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    · Happy Easter
    · Happy April Fools

  123. good for Adam but sads it can’t also be welcomehomedavid

  124. And to add to the debate and make clear this isn’t “Let’s Hate Danny” in code, one of the best moments of friendship last year was when Danny initiated the “Save Matt” cheer. Even many cold-hearted, hard boiled Idol watchers got warm fuzzies from that. It truly seemed to show that the group cared about each other.

    I think a lot of the Idols helped each other last year with advice about song choice and performance. From everything I could gather, Danny was certainly part of the “in crowd.” That was especially evident on the tour when it mainly looked like one big mutual admiration society. If anybody was on the outside, it was probably Scott MacIntyre. Unfortunately, from what I could gather from clues here and there, it appears Scott may have been too concerned with himself to be interested in anybody else’s success.

  125. We like are contestants nice and friendly simply because it makes the show more fun. Shy doesn’t bother most of us(just Simon) but we don’t like aloof. We react positively when we see genuine friendship, like the Davids and Kris/Adam/Allison. We’re not a bunch of boobs who think we’re best friends with them.

    I can guarantee you that an unfriendly, stand-offish person will never win Idol and I don’t care how talented they are.

  126. Concerning why friendship among the contestants matters… Listened again to Slezak’s 5-part Idolatry interview with Kris after AI last year (YouTube). Slezak mentioned that it appeared that there was a lot of cooperation among the S8 contestants and Kris said that the contestants had decided that they didn’t want to compete against each other, that they were really just competing against themselves. They each wanted to better their own performances, so they helped each other to become better. I think he said that it was actually Adam who suggested Kris sing ANS after Adam heard Kris trying it out, and Kris helped Allison with her MJ song choice. He said they all helped each other.

    My words: Their friendship mattered. They listened to the judges, but because they were working as a team together they were more confident and were not overly affected by what the judges said. Kris said with ANS that he wanted to create a “moment,” something musical that would be remembered. For him and for others, they were having fun but it was also about entertaining, making music, I think because they love making music.

    That was fun for me because AI as a reality show is in many ways a projection of our desires – people getting a chance to have their dreams come true. A basic American worldview belief is that having your dreams come true is a good thing and contributes to happiness. S8 affirmed that worldview belief and having a worldview belief affirmed creates positive feelings. Just looking at their faces from S8 made me smile because (most of them) were having the time of their lives – and most still are. That’s what keeps me watching their performances now – besides the great music. I love especially to watch Kris smile.

    The contestants on S9 however, are also having the opportunity to have their dreams come true, but it isn’t very pleasant to watch. They say they are “just trying to have fun” but having fun without making musical moments is difficult to watch. They are strained, awkward, emotional… and the disconnect between the judges and with Ryan makes it worse… that flies against our American worldview belief (having your dreams come true is positive) and psychologically when a basic worldview belief is challenged, there are always negative reactions. IMO that is why S9 is stirring up such angst among viewers.

  127. SonyMusicGlobal
    We hope everyone tagging #welcomehomeadam knows that the countries that had him for a while took good care of ur guy.

  128. Yeah Masieta, that’s what I was trying to say. S7 also seems like a very supportive and close-knitted group. I just didn’t get that feeling from reading Didis exit interview… they should work together and help each out more since it seems to improve them. And improving helps because they are not really competing against each other but for label attention.

  129. Adam’s April Fools’ day news makes the mtv news. LOL

    http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1635257/20100401/coldplay.jhtml

    Coldplay, Adam Lambert Announce Huge News … On April Fools’ Day
    Coldplay announce ‘Angst’ fragrance; Lambert to star in ‘Wizard of Oz’ remake … yeah, right!

    In a post on his fan site Planet Fierce, it was revealed that Lambert’s 2010 world tour will kick off May 14 in Buenos Aires, and will be highlighted by a six-night stand at New York’s Madison Square Garden and a gig at London’s Wembley Stadium alongside Queen, David Bowie, Muse and the Rolling Stones.

    His Radio City gig will feature him high-kicking alongside the legendary Rockettes, and his turn in “Wizard” will see him playing a reported five roles, including the titular Wizard of Oz. Carrie Underwood will star as Dorothy Gale, and a host of other “Idol” favorites — including David Cook, Chris Daughtry, Kris Allen and Kelly Clarkson — have also signed on to appear.

  130. That message from SonyMusicGlobal really warms your heart. I’m thrilled that Adam was so well received in every city he visited. I believe next month, he will go to some cities that he wasn’t able to this time around. I also think it is highly likely he will have concerts in Australia, Japan and London. I’m not sure about the other countries in UK and Europe — As Adam mentioned, it depends on his album sales. Interesting he was so well received in Singapore considering their homophobic laws.

  131. That message from SonyMusicGlobal really warms your heart.

    The fact that they would bother to do something like that says a lot about what they think of Adam as well.

  132. *

    The fact that they would bother to do something like that says a lot about what they think of Adam as well.

    It is so great to see how much they think of and support Adam. I know this is from the publicist but still it seems they have such a genuine fondness and respect for him.

  133. New concert date announced for Kris — July 8 in Counil Bluffs, IA, on bill with Barenaked Ladies (tix go on sale 4/10).

    Also, it appears that even the 4/8 concert has ben cancelled, Kris is still taking part in 4/7 Bridge2Rwanda/TOM’s Shoes event in Little Rock. Unclear whether he’s going to talk about his experiences, sing, or both.

  134. Also, that Kradison and Kradam bull from last year seemed like just some nasty middle school crap about excluding Danny and his fans

    I agree. I think that much of it was created by a lot of the people on the internet because of this as well. And also to a lesser extent to exclude some of the other idols not apart of that trio. Very “middle school” indeed.

    But I believe that pretty much most if not all the contestants from Season 8 got along well. I always got the impression that overall they all liked each other.

    As far as Season 9 goes, I am going to guess they probably get along well enough with each other as a group. Even though we aren’t seeing a whole lot of close moments between them right now.

  135. Anyone know what this tweet refers to?

    JCTweet2

    #From OP: “appeared to be some sort of altercation between Crystal and Andrew during the Sean Combs” song – AI still has some good moments??
    10 minutes ago via web

  136. I love Darius Rucker’s comments. He thinks there are too many idol hopefuls that don’t realize they can’t sing. That’s why he supports…Haeley Vaughn?

  137. that Kradison and Kradam bull from last year

    hmm, like ross, i think it’s pretty real too. They were the top 3 of group 2 and Kris said in an interview that they spend a week doing press together, so right at the start they started bounding. And from top 13, Kris and Adam were roomates and were getting along great. I don’t think any of this means it was excluding Danny; it’s legit that we like some people more than others — every one is like that. From what I read, the season 8 group was getting along very well with each other.

  138. But that is exactly what I am saying. Why is it a big deal that any of them are friends? Why would it be a big deal if no one this season was friends? Why do you care who is friends with who? Again, none of you know them personally, so why do you care who is friends with who? It is the fans who get weird about it and assign names and attach huge meanings to every gesture on the show and every picture on the idol website and act like they are almost participants in that friendship. That is what is annoying. Again, I don’t care that Adam and Kris are friends, and I found it weird last year that so many people did…

    I guess I can see why fans make up the cutesy nicknames; they want to live vicariously through their Idols.

    Although I don’t agree the cutesy nicknames were made up to exclude anyone, I do agree, the whole cliquey Kradison, Kradam, thing is a very small Internet phenomena and is rather silly/middle school. And though its at least understandable coming from fans, who again, want to live vicariously through the Idols, its extremely silly coming from grown men like Jim C and Michael Slezak. It really sounds silly coming from their mouths and makes me wonder if they are trying to rewrite their geeky High School days pretending they are in with the “In Crowd”, LOL! :D

    I think S8 were all close; they all still text and call each other. Although I don’t follow “Kradison” closely enough to know if they’ve made the effort to get together socially outside AI mutual events, I do know Danny has gotten together socially with Matt, Alexis, Scott, Sharon Wilbur, Brent Keith, Casey Carlson, just had lunch with Felicia Barton last week.

    http://yfrog.com/78zpocj

    And all were strictly social; nothing to do with appearances or Idol business. And for those who say Scott didn’t care about anyone; he took a cab across Atlanta to go visit with Danny when Danny was there.

    Does this thrill me? No, but being a big fan, I’m happy he’s kept in touch with the friends he made. Did I think the whole Manny (Danny and Matt as BFFs) thing was silly also? Yes! I was only interested in it as far as entertainment value in the hilarious interviews they gave together. I am happy they are still friends, but it doesn’t really add to their appeal as artists to me.

    Same with S9; I could care less if they are friends as far as artistry goes and entertainment. But, IMO, what’s lacking is individuality (yeah, they dress funky but individual personality is lacking) and charisma.

  139. I don’t want to live vicariously through anyone. I enjoy seeing people getting along and clicking with each other.

  140. No bump for Ruben? That’s too bad, because he was good.

    He should have waved his crotch — and a bunch of women’s crotches — at the cameras more. … And used more electronic percussion. Much more.

    (Yeah, the song wasn’t that good. But neither were the others’ songs. But Ruben’s merely a very good, singer singer. So who would care to check his stuff out? Bo….ring.)

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