Have Clay Aiken and Decca Records Parted Ways?

Have Clay Aiken and Decca Records parted ways?

According to my source, Decca has been sending out emails promoting the label’s artists, but there has been no promotion of Clay. Fans emailed Decca to find out why, and to cancel their account. The peeps at Decca responded with this:

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Sorry to hear that. We hope you will find other artist on Decca that you might be interested in. Also note that, Clay has moved to another label. Please check his website for his current information.

Apparently, Dave Novik, the Executive Producer of the CD of Clay’s CD, has left Decca to start a new company. There’s also a rumor that David Foster is starting a new label.  Clay’s reps have not confirmed

More will be revealed, I’m sure.

Clay recorded 5 CDs with RCA before signing with Decca in 2009 releasing Tried and True, an album of standards, with the new label in 2010.

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42 Comments

  1. That album cover will never not make we laugh! Clay looks like some kind of creepy monkey!

  2. That album cover will never not make we laugh! Clay looks like some kind of creepy monkey!

    That cover is all kinds of unfortunate, that’s for sure. I wonder how will this play out. Will Clay sign with David Foster’s new label?

    Oh hell, I clicked on that source link which led me to the clackhouse, which featured yet another unfortunate photo. Why? They are having an interesting discussion there though, so thanks for this evenings entertainment MJ!

  3. This is all speculation.
    No one knows for sure because no one in Clay Aiken’s camp has made an announcement and DECCA Label has not either.

  4. Actually, I was wondering if that was Clay or Pee Wee Herman… Seriously!!

  5. Uh well all I can say is I hope he can find a label that steers him in a more current direction, or at least get him away from covers. There’s plenty of songwriters out there who could write good songs for his voice. Its obvious his fanbase eroded a lot and he really needs to expand that, he needs airplay with decent songs.

  6. Well I think that’s pretty what MJ said

    There’s also a rumor that David Foster is starting a new label. Clay’s reps have not confirmed

    More will be revealed, I’m sure.

    I mean we do a helluva lot of speculating here at MJ’s big blog, don’t we?

    Seriously though, I’ve noticed some rumblings among Claymates, checking Decca’s roster daily. Worrying about how poorly his upcoming tour has sold….I noticed elsewhere someone had made some kind of a chart wherein was listed all of the venues that have eliminated available unsold seating, etc. Something bad is going on in Claymateville, so let the speculating begin.

  7. I didn’t realize that a fan messageboard was considered a source; at least without some finite information. But I do note that nothing is confirmed, anyway. I imagine when it is it will be noted.

    I don’t think he looks like a monkey in the picture; it actually is a decent enough shot, impo. And while standards aren’t my cuppa what I have heard was at least well produced and well sung. At least better than some of the other efforts I’ve heard.

    Ah, well, Idol land is always good for a popcorn feast. I think he’s a talented man but I do agree with his ability he could merge current (not necessarily Top 40)sound with strong melody/lyrics and still make some good music. At least, it’s never a dull moment, no?

  8. Tried & True has pretty much flopped. It sold 22K its first week, 10K the second, 6K the third and 3K the fourth. Then it sorta dropped off the radar. It didn’t even resurface around the holidays when Clay’s Christmas album did. If Decca is cutting him loose, it appears they may have good reason.

  9. it really sucks whats happened to Clay. He was on top of the world and came tumbling down badly, how do u go from what? 2 million albums sold for his first album, to less than 100,000 for his latest is unreal to me. if it can happen to clay, it can happen to anyone

    it seems as tho his fanbase has really abandoned him after his big coming out party. i remember cruising through some clay aiken fan boards around the time of his coming out and the amount of vitriol from people who were his fans before he came out was so disgusting and disturbing.

    its also really hard to market a guy like clay, especially in this current music scene we’re in. even buble is doing his own current stuff these days and its worked out great for him

    and LOL at people complaining about his looks in this cover picture, i wasnt aware he was ever known for his good looks! LMAOO

  10. Clay recorded 5 CDs with RCA before signing with Decca in 2009 releasing Tried and True, an album of standards, with the new label in 2010.

    Wow didn’t know he did 5 albums.. how many were christmas albums?

    Low sells are not surprising when you don’t release new material.

  11. it seems as tho his fanbase has really abandoned him after his big coming out party.

    Clay released a CD of originals in May, 2008 before he came out and it only sold around 160,000 copies, so he had already lost a lot of fans.

    i remember cruising through some clay aiken fan boards around the time of his coming out and the amount of vitriol from people who were his fans before he came out was so disgusting and disturbing.

    That was horrible.

    Wow didn’t know he did 5 albums.. how many were christmas albums?

    One Christmas album.

    ETA: Brian Mansfield posted updated CD sales info a couple of weeks ago:

    Clay Aiken
    “Measure of a Man” 2003 (2,785,000 total)
    “Merry Christmas With Love 2004 (1,375,000 total)
    “A Thousand Different Ways” 2006 (531,000)
    “On My Way Here” 2008 (165,000 total)

  12. I didn’t realize that a fan messageboard was considered a source; at least without some finite information. But I do note that nothing is confirmed, anyway. I imagine when it is it will be noted.

    This is the way it ALWAYS begins: Fans notice that an artist isn’t being promoted or is no longer on the roster. It’s always the first sign that a label and Idol have parted ways.

    Just making a note of the rumblings in Idol land. Experience has proven that where there is smoke, there is quite often fire.

  13. FuzzyWuzzy – thanks. I always thought that Clay sold more than this from comments that I’ve read. Those are good sales, but the really ‘good’ ones were over 6 years ago. Boy has the industry changed since then!

  14. I’m not too worried about Clay Aiken. He’ll be around for a long time, even with all speculation here and everywhere else.

  15. I received an email from Decca on 1/16 announcing Clay’s tour.

    It appears that those emails were sent out in response to inquiries/complaints from fans. On Decca’s regular emails generally promoting their artists, Clay has been absent. That’s what prompted the fans to email Decca to cancel their accounts and as a result, Decca responded with the email saying that Clay has moved to another label. A lot of fans seem to be happy with this news and are hoping that Clay’s next CD will be original songs.

  16. Perhaps his fan base has eroded because they don’t like the music he’s putting out not just because of his coming out? I’m sure there was a small and probably vocal contingent that did abandon him when he came out but I would think there is also a much smaller audience for the standards/covers he’s putting out rather than something new, fresh and current.

    ETA Fans don’t continue to buy if they don’t like the music you’re selling

  17. perhaps his fan base has eroded because they don’t like the music he’s putting out not just because of his coming out? I’m sure there was a small and probably vocal contingent that did abandon him when he came out but I would think there is also a much smaller audience for standards/covers he’s putting out rather than something new, fresh and current.

    I agree. There was a much bigger drop in sales between his 2006 CD (covers) and his 2008 CD (OMWH, originals) than between his CDs pre- and post-coming out, so I think that the erosion of Clay’s fanbase had little to do with him coming out. I thought that OMWH was much better than his 2006 covers CD and his latest CD, and his latest CD of “standards” didn’t seem to appeal to a lot of his remaining fans. I think that there was a general sense of disappointment when Clay decided that he wanted to record the kind of songs on his latest CD with Decca.

  18. Fans don’t continue to buy if they don’t like the music you’re selling

    I actually think if he’d gone the standards route from the get-go, he would be better off. It did fine for SuBo. But it took him too long to get there with too much indifferent (or outright creepy; thank you, Invisible) material in between. And I’ve heard from formerly core fans that the live shows were very uneven; when he was in voice, it was great, but when he wasn’t, it really wasn’t, and the latter happened far too often for their liking. Having a set where the arrangements could favor a big band and pick up the slack (again, standards) might have helped too.

  19. Reminder:

    No finger-wagging or chastising fellow posters. Deleting ALL angry and defensive posts.

  20. I just think that there are better voices doing the same type of AC shit that Clay does…I’d rather buy and listen to someone else, thank you.

    Other peeps may feel that Clay made it to the top of the heap based on his voice but I think, of all AI contestants, he was popular more because of his story and his arc than anything. Ya know, geeky kid transforms himself and takes on the big bad recording industry…the sing in the shower story (not that it is really true) who “makes” it with the help of his fandom.

    Now, eight years later the story has run it’s course…the geeky kid has turned into a geeky adult with nothing special to offer the music industry. His tours don’t sell well, his recordings don’t sell much of anything, he hasn’t been tagged to return to Broadway, and he has a weird diseas called “foot in mouth” that he can’t seem to control.

  21. I am genuinely sorry to hear that Clay’s not doing very well anymore. For me, the reason why I stopped following him so closely is because I simply didn’t like any of his albums after the Christmas album. I think he’s got a voice for the ages, but his material is very iffy.

    That being said, I’ve enjoyed every concert I’ve attended, and the biggest reason why I don’t go more often is because he does not travel to my state very often

  22. Oh I’m sure fans are ecstatic just like they were happy about him leaving RCA. Many thought good things would happen at Decca. But the truth is Clay himself has to start making some changes. Didn’t he admit to liking those standards? Didn’t he elude to RCA holding him back from who he wanted to be and Decca was different? The label is not always the one at fault. I think Clay is set in his ways and probably a bit difficult to change.

    I still have some his music on my iPod. I really liked some songs on MOAM and the later songs like Lonely No More and Lover All Alone, some of his Xmas songs are gorgeous and I actually love some of his covers he did in concert, but he’s not going to make a lifelong career singing covers and IMO his taste in covers went downhill. I mean “Misty” is a far cry from “Kyrie”.

  23. Oh I’m sure fans are ecstatic just like they were happy about him leaving RCA

    I don’t think so. Puzzled, more likely. It seemed with the PBS special Decca was going to position Clay as an Andrea Bocelli type.

  24. Just checked the Decca site. If Clay is no longer with them, they haven’t bothered to remove his name from their Artists list.

  25. Didn’t he admit to liking those standards? Didn’t he elude to RCA holding him back from who he wanted to be and Decca was different? The label is not always the one at fault. I think Clay is set in his ways and probably a bit difficult to change.

    I think this is what was confusing to fans. Clay said that Clive Davis had “mandated covers” for his 2006 CD implying that was not his choice, then after going to Decca, he voluntarily chooses to record standards/covers because he loves these songs. WTF?

    I don’t think so. Puzzled, more likely. It seemed with the PBS special Decca was going to position Clay as an Andrea Bocelli type.

    I think that the poster meant that fans are ecstatic about Clay leaving Decca, and I think that most of them are happy about that. In an interview about his Decca CD, Clay commented on trying to appeal to those who like Michael Buble, who primarily sings standards and is wildly successful, both critically and commercially. That strategy did not appear to be successful. IMO, Clay’s voice and singing style doesn’t fit these standards well.

  26. I still don’t get why claymates were all hating clive MADE clay do covers, then from every interview i heard from clay himself, he was moaning about how glorious the old music were and how pissy poor the current music are and then went recording a bunch of moldy than ever songs. well, all said, i still think clay and his claymates have made most of his idol fame, actually better than lots of idols, his problem is that that’s all he ever had.

  27. I still don’t get why claymates were all hating clive MADE clay do covers,

    I think that 80’s cover album was ill-timed, and badly selected. The cover album stopped his momentum. The selected cover songs had been done too many times. “Right Here Waiting” – the first song on the CD – no complaints on the way Clay sings it, but the song itself IMO is not good.

    from every interview i heard from clay himself, he was moaning about how glorious the old music were and how pissy poor the current music

    I actually think he’s rationalizing there. He had some nice original music on OMWH and it didn’t get played – so he now says he likes old stuff.

  28. . The cover album stopped his momentum.

    Because of the lack of airplay, Clay never had any momentum. He probably thought that to keep any type of fanbase, and expand beyond the claymates, that he would have to sing standards.

  29. Because of the lack of airplay, Clay never had any momentum.

    I think he had some. MOAM had “Invisible”, the Christmas album did well. He’d been on SNL, Scrubs, lots of late night, and that Michael Sadecki moment on Idol was water cooler material. If an album with new pop songs had come out then, things may may turned out quite differently.

  30. The selected cover songs had been done too many times. “Right Here Waiting” – the first song on the CD – no complaints on the way Clay sings it, but the song itself IMO is not good.

    I loved the Richard Marx original, piano, fairly stripped down. Even today it doesn’t sound 80s. But Clay’s version is like a theme song from Saved by The Bell with the cheesy production.

  31. I never got Clay. Not one bit. I didn’t watch his season, though. A friend who’s opinion I respect says he had “something” on the show. (By the way, she’s very progressive/alternative in her music choices so it surprises me that she would have liked Clay on the show.)

    Anyhow, just don’t see his appeal but he sure has some dedicated fans.

  32. Because of the lack of airplay, Clay never had any momentum.

    I think he had some. MOAM had “Invisible”

    “Invisible” was a modest hit on the BB Hot 100 (~#37). Ironic that it was a cover.

  33. ^ I believe Invisible had just been written and given to Westlife in the UK and Clay here at approximately the same time. Clay had the first release in the US, so I don’t it’s considered a cover.

  34. I think that the poster meant that fans are ecstatic about Clay leaving Decca

    Clay’s problems with his record label will always be blamed on the label no matter how illogical. Everybody loved Decca at first. The label put out the type of album Clay wanted and they got him the PBS tie-in. They did their part. He’s gone from major label to niche label and (it appears) now to a start up label.I’m not sure how downgrading to an even smaller label is supposed to help his career rebound.

    If he releases new material on his next label, will he bash Decca for making him do an album of classics? Whenever he goes from originals to classics and back again, he always complains about the previous album and claims the new album is 100% him. Hehe.

  35. “Right Here Waiting” – the first song on the CD – no complaints on the way Clay sings it, but the song itself IMO is not good.

    Oh – I think Right Here Waiting is a great song. I saw a video of Clay singing this with just a piano and a little can music and he was amazing.

    just don’t see his appeal but he sure has some dedicated fans.

    Isn’t that great! You can include me in enjoying his music and his humanitarian efforts. He is just a great entertainer.

    That is what is so great about music.
    There are a lot of artists out there that I deem to be screamers and they have fans.

    He’s gone from major label to niche label and (it appears) now to a start up label.

    Really! Where has this been announced?

  36. ^ I believe Invisible had just been written and given to Westlife in the UK and Clay here at approximately the same time. Clay had the first release in the US, so I don’t it’s considered a cover.

    “Invisible” had already been released as D-Side’s 3rd single from their album in July 2003, and the fans found the video on the internet when Clay was performing it on the AI tour during the summer of 2003 before his CD was released (Oct 14, 2003). Technically, it’s a cover.

    D-Side, “Invisible”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK1cAJDmJ2c

    Clay Aiken, “Invisible”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbhOVKhwO_4

  37. According to this report, David Foster’s contract with Warner’s expires soon, and it speculates that he may be recruited by Universal or SONY.

  38. Really! Where has this been announced?

    Nowhere. Hence “it appears” in parentheses. See:

    He’s gone from major label to niche label and (it appears) now to a start up label

  39. Clay Aiken is a really talented singer, but the songs on his most recent album are just awful. When he went to Decca I thought he might sing jazz standards, not overplayed 70s songs. Musically, I don’t understand the choices he’s made with his career. I don’t think he’s musician or songwriter. (Maybe he’s written a song at one point or another, but he’s not primarily a songwriter.)

    He’s more an actor who sings really well. He’s had some success with Spamalot. I think he should take some acting lessons, embrace the idea that he doesn’t have to speak with an exaggerated southern accent ALL the time, and continue to cultivate his musical theater career.

  40. Interesting that when a rumor like this breaks everyone is first to say Clay was dropped by his label.

    There are many labels within the Universal Music Group; Clay could simply have been moved to a different label within that group.

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