Blake Lewis Dropped from Arista

ETA: Listen to Blake Lewis’s interview here (right-click and save to download) He talks about the label dropping him at about the 7:50 mark. Blake heard the news 2 days ago. He says that initially, he didn’t want to be with a major record label, but his second place win required it. Although he still had 80% control of his record, he feels that he didn’t get the support that he needed from the label.

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Blake Lewis has been dropped by Arista, according to Blake himself, from an interview with Maximum Threshold. Listen to the entire podcast here:

Maximum Threshhold

Blake’s debut album Audio Day Dream failed to chart any singles, and by Idol standards, underperformed, selling 98, 000 its first week and 299, 000 to date.

That was fast! Taylor Hicks and Katharine McPhee were dropped from their respective labels about 18 months after they were signed. Ruben Studdard released 3 albums before he was dropped.

Blake signed with Arista last August.

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147 Comments

  1. The only thing that surprises me about him being dropped is how quickly it happened. Yikes.

  2. Yikes. I thought his album would do better than it did (now, if they had only released Know My Name as a single…). Gah, it’s too bad, really.

    Before I click on that radio link…did Blake say anything else in that interview? Should I prepare myself for some titties or a OMG-I-hate-Sanjaya diatribe? heh.

  3. No surprise, with all of the changes going on at the label. I feel for Archie, seems, if you get the J/Arista, instead of the RCA deal coming off of idol, you have a very short time to prove yourself. Fantasia may be the only one left, and there have been rumors of her drop. Jordin’s on Jive and Jennifer hasn’t released yet.

  4. No biggie, IMO. He got a chance to showcase his talents on a TV show and on a major label CD. Just like the other AI castasides, now he’ll have to prove he’s still in it for the long haul. Your’re still YUK in my book, but I bet he’ll keep his passion alive.

  5. Archie is on Jive Records, same as Jordin. They seem to have more patience and realistic expectations.

    Trina
    Jun 22nd, 2008 at 11:19 am
    The only thing that surprises me about him being dropped is how quickly it happened. Yikes.

    I think his big fat hateful mouth expedited the process.

  6. I knew this was coming. Shades of Justin G., Diana DeGarmo, Bo Bice, & Kat . Of course, Ruben and Taylor (who were winners) I’m just listing runnerups. Seems Clay is the only runner up to date,t hey have kept. I heard that Fantasia is being dropped, but, haven’t found anything official on this yet. Wonder how Archie will fare?

  7. I liked John Peter Lewis’ song that I heard yesterday on the video that MJ posted better than anything I’ve heard from Blake Lewis. Just never cared for his beatboxing.

  8. Oh please! I took a listen to that radio interview. He’s trying to say he was forced into signing with a major label. Does he really expect anyone to believe he didn’t wan to sign with a huge company like Arista? He really does come off as a total idiot.

  9. I knew this was coming. Shades of Justin G., Diana DeGarmo, Bo Bice, & Kat . Of course, Ruben and Taylor (who were winners) Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m just listing runnerups. Seems Clay is the only runner up to date,t hey have kept.

    So much for the “it’s better not to win!” theories, eh?

  10. I personally do not care for Blake but good grief, it is hard to sell music these days. Why not consider the times and be a little more patient in developing artists?

  11. I liked Blake’s record. Well, about half of it. And I really liked “Break Anotha”. I wish things had worked out for him with Arista.

    It would have happened anyway, but Clive’s demotion didn’t help. He was always in Blake’s corner.

  12. I think it really depends entirely on the music they sell and not on whether they are the AI winner, runner up, 3rd place, 4th place and so on.. Daughtry (4th place) proves that he can still sell without the popularity and not winning (look at Taylor Hicks). Like what David Foster said, Archie can be successful depending on the music he sells. Cook would sell his rock music like Daughtry. Archie can sell his pop music like Jordin. So it really depends on the music they sell. Unfortunately, for Blake Lewis, I guess beat box is not really marketable to youngsters nowadays..

  13. Actually winning doesn’t mean anything either. Just ask Ruben & Taylor. If I understand it correctly, J Records was Clive’s baby. Both Ruben & Taylor were on that label. So, is Fantasia. Jive seems more geared toward the teens.

  14. Awwww. Poor Blake.
    I never thought this would happen so quickly. It really is a shame. I think ADD is a good record. I am with MJ. I like about half the record.

    Wow… It really is a tough business to make it.

    I hope he finds a label that fits him. Blake was never a mainstream artist anyways, but I feel for him.

  15. Taylor and his season changed people’s perception of AI permanently. From then on winning AI can and often be something to mock about. Among the six previous winners, only three of them are the most successful from their season, and only two (Kelly, Carrie) are deemed really successful.

    Kelly and Carrie were successful because they came up with good music. If they came up with Breakaway and Some Hearts without winning, they will still be very successful. So, winning is not meaningful to them. It certainly isn’t meaningful to Ruben, Taylor, and Fantasia (soon).

    Had Blake win, he won’t be successful with that album he made.

  16. First of all Ruben shouldn’t even be mentioned in this at all. He has three cds to prove himself and he underperformed, he was given time. He had one success, or two if you count his gospel cd, the last wasn’t bad, just a bit gereric, but it didn’t sell. So of course he had to go in these times you must continue to produce. Believe me winning does matter as Ruben, Taylor and Fannie are still in the industry, still working, and still being talked about.

    I liked Blake’s cd. I loved Break Anotha, I don’t think a big label was for him, but remember maybe he is talking garbage, but the deal is RCA or whoever has the rights of first refusal. Not the other way around. The kid is a musician, warts and all, I think he will make his voice heard eventually.

  17. That is too bad for Blake. As someone else pointed out, that label is not the place for developing careers.

    There is a perception that if you win Idol (or are the runner up) that you have to have huge record sales right out of the gate.

    It’pretty ridiculous considering that is not the norm for the industry. It doesn’t matter if you’ve won a television competition or not. It still takes time to build an audience.

    I figured this was coming after Taylor, Ruben and Katharine were dropped.

  18. Actually winning doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean anything either. Just ask Ruben & Taylor. If I understand it correctly, J Records was Cliveà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s baby. Both Ruben & Taylor were on that label. So, is Fantasia.

    I disagree. Sure, winning doesn’t guarantee you success, but it sure “means” a lot more than second place. Like you stated in your first post, 5 out of the 6 runner-ups have been dropped by their labels.

    I think it really depends entirely on the music they sell and not on whether they are the AI winner, runner up, 3rd place, 4th place and so on.. Daughtry (4th place) proves that he can still sell without the popularity and not winning (look at Taylor Hicks).

    Of course, Mackie is correct in asserting that success depends on the type of music sold. But I don’t think that discredits the view that it’s better to finish first than to think you’re better off not winning. Wouldn’t a country singer, for example, have a better shot at a “successful” career finishing first rather than sixth? Logic, along with a quick look at the careers of past Idol contestants, would allow me to think so.

    Oh, and I’m not claiming that Blake would definitely have been more successful had he won. (My silly little rant about the silliness of not wanting to win was just a general observation.) In Blake’s case, he may have gotten more direction concerning the music video and order of the singles had he won…. but this is the record he wanted to make, so there’s not much to regret.

  19. Of course winning isn’t a guarantee for superstardom either. but TWO winners were dropped and FIVE runner-ups were dropped. Logic tells me you stand a better chance at doing better as a winner. Clay and what happened season 5 were anamolies for the most part.

  20. Surprise. Not.

    IMVHO, Blake shouldn’t have made the top 6 but he surpassed my expectations.

    And I agree with someone up above — his cocky behavior probably didn’t endear him to many.

  21. I have heard for awhile how unhappy Blake was with the label and their non support of him. I thought this was going to happen.

  22. Well, one things for sure. By winning AI, you get your picture on the backdrop during the next season’s auditions. Unless, of course, your name is Taylor Hicks. He’s there, but, you have to do handstands to see him.I also read somewhere that Taylor was going to sue J Records for breach of contract, and, that may have been part of the reason for the split. Both have said it was a mutual decision, however, the media only states that he was dropped. So, we don’t know the whole truth on this. I also suspect that Bo wanted out of his contract if they wouldn’t allow him to make the kind of music he wanted. His sales actually weren’t that bad as far as the other runnerups, with the exception of Clay Aiken.

  23. Had someone *ahem label peeps* had the foresight to release as the first single, the song with, I dunno, perhaps Lupe fucking Fiasco as a guest on it, things might have been a bit different for Blake.

    There are some good radio friendly songs on his album. It’s not an album just full of beatboxing. This is quite an understatement, but I guess the first single (and all out support from the label) makes a quite a difference. Yeah, Clive always appeared to be in Blake’s corner, but “Break Anotha” was also Clive’s choice for the first single, from what I understand. And that was obviously the wrong choice.

    Kelly and Carrie were successful because they came up with good music. If they came up with Breakaway and Some Hearts without winning, they will still be very successful. So, winning is not meaningful to them.

    “They” are not the only ones who “came up” with that music. Kelly only cowrote on about half of Breakaway and Carrie only cowrote one song on Some Hearts. Even on Carnival Ride, Carrie only cowrote four songs. Whereas, you look at artists on their labels who write ALL of their own music (Alicia Keys and Gavin DeGraw, just to name a couple). We know that the labels view AI contestants as commerce and not artists. So that begs the question, if Carrie and Kelly hadn’t won, would they have gotten that “special” care and treatment from the label?

    Looking at what Blake and Kat got as runnerups, the answer could be “maybe so.” Which leads me to two things: Is the artist commercially viable in their chosen genre (i.e. – Kat in the pop/R&B market, up against Rihanna and the like – she just wasn’t believable, imo) and will the music fit with what is currently on the radio?

    I think in the end, that is what it all comes down to. Not every person who appears on AI, or even WINS AI, is going to be a huge star. Only a few of them will be. It’s the right person, with the right music and to some extent the right look, at the right time, imo. That doesn’t mean the others can’t enjoy some measure of success, just that there are really only gonna be a few who emerge as the big “stars” right off the bat, and I think it’s all about timing.

  24. Kelly and Carrie were successful because they came up with good music.

    I’d disagree with that slightly; they (and Daughtry) were successful because they came up with (or someone handed them) music with mass appeal. Now, that doesn’t mean that their music isn’t good; the two aren’t mutually exclusive. But the old “good music sells and bad music doesn’t” chestnut doesn’t really hold any water.

    As for Blake’s quick dismissal, I wonder how much of it had to do with his actual music and how much of it had to do with his personality and image. I was always very neutral on his music, but boy was he a foul-mouthed, disrespectful, boorish, crass fool. To be honest, I found him downright disgusting. Now, he didn’t seem to get a lot of support from Arista, and to me, if a label signs you, they should support you. So I feel for him to that extent. But if his constant crudeness and distastefulness hastened his exit from Arista, then frankly I have little sympathy for him.

    I also read somewhere that Taylor was going to sue J Records for breach of contract, and, that may have been part of the reason for the split.

    LOL. Sounds like just another palliative justification conjured up by the Soul Patrol. Besides, how would dropping Taylor dissuade him from filing suit?

    …however, the media only states that he was dropped.

    I don’t think that’s true. When the split first happened, a lot of outlets reported the decision a mutual. And besides, I think “dropped” is such a ubiquitous term for an artist and a label parting ways that it doesn’t necessarily imply that the artist was thrown out the window or anything like that. And as to Taylor’s own statements about a “mutual parting of the ways,” well, maybe it was, maybe it wasn’t. I’m sure he had some mixed feelings about it, though. After all, he knew going in what the grand prize was.

  25. As for Blakeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s quick dismissal, I wonder how much of it had to do with his actual music and how much of it had to do with his personality and image.

    Blake was dismissed because his record didn’t sell. It’s business, not a Miss Congeniality contest. It’s just that AI fans tend to pick over this stuff moreso than artists who didn’t come off the show. There are plenty of assholes out there who still have contracts, who are still releasing music on major labels.

  26. ITA, mj. And if I made my music buying decisions based on who’s an asshole and who’s not, I’d have very few artists to choose from. That’s why I just don’t care about that, AI person or not. If I like the music, that’s good enough for me.

  27. As for comparing his album to other runner-ups, it did outsell those of Justin Guarini and Diana DeGarmo. But the fact that it happened so fast probably does come down to a combination of things – label impatience plus a disgrunted Blake. Message to Season 7 contestants not yet signed: steer clear of J/Arista, even if it means waiting for the market to open up in August.

    He’ll probably be best off with something independent for his 2nd album, like Bo Bice. It won’t be a hit but expectations will be much more realistic.

  28. Blake was dismissed because his record didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t sell. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s business, not a Miss Congeniality contest.

    I think most of us here know that. Nevertheless, I’ll clarify what I said. I don’t think anyone was sitting in the boardroom talking about how they wouldn’t have to drop that wonderfully talented Blake Lewis kid if only he weren’t such a jackass. But at the same time, I doubt that his unsuccessfully crude personality won him any points.

    There are plenty of assholes out there who still have contracts, who are still releasing music on major labels.

    Of course there are. Kanye West is a prime example of that. But a lot of those artists either fly so low under the radar that they could cure cancer and broker peace in the Middle East and they still wouldn’t get any press — or they’ve successfully integrated douchebaggery into a marketable persona. Blake was somewhere in the middle. He got a a lot of press and interview time, but his image never gelled with the public.

  29. I didn’t think Blake was all that talented and predicted that he would be dropped before the 7th season’s finale. His music, his style, his vocals….just not something that I thought would be embraced by the masses. Never bought into the whole “he’s like Maroon 5!” hype that was CONSTANTLY being peddled throughout AI7.

    I know judging talent is an extremely subjective topic but I just feel that every single contestant that has been deemed successful is a lot more talented than he is. He just didn’t have the vocal chops to add that element of appeal to his songs.

  30. Kanye West can get away with talkin’ smack because he can BACK IT UP. Not just with great TALENT but with killer record sales and wildly successful tours.

    Blake’s big stupid mouth just made his weak sales numbers look a thousand times worse than other artists with similar sales (that have managed to keep their record deals. Hmmm… I wonder why?).

    McPhee and Taylor managed to last 18 months before their labels gave up on them. This is the swiftest boot I’ve EVER seen.

    Yes his poor sales played a major part in the drop, but I firmly believe Blake’s foul mouth and bad attitude made the label come to their decision quicker than usual. I wouldn’t be surprised in the record label felt like Blake’s bad reputation cut into his sales potential.

  31. And if I made my music buying decisions based on whoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s an asshole and whoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d have very few artists to choose from. Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s why I just donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t care about that, AI person or not. If I like the music, thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s good enough for me.

    Absolutely. But I never liked Blake’s music enough for that to overcome his gross personality. I guess neither did a lot of other people. No right or wrong about it; taste is taste.

  32. I must admit to not following Blake for a long time even though he was my favorite that season. I bought his cd and liked some of it but I think it was some of his interviews that turned me off although I doubt that’s what made them cut him. It’s sales as Mj said.

  33. But I never liked Blakeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s music enough for that to overcome his gross personality. I guess neither did a lot of other people.

    EXACTLY. And Blake wasn’t doing well enough for a label to put up with his gross personality.

    I think it’s a naive mindset to say it’s JUST about the quality of music. If that was they case then Disney wouldn’t have totally flipped their lid when Miley Cyrus showed her bare back in that Vanity Fair shoot. Because they know damn well that her IMAGE is a HUUUUGE part of her appeal and drives her sales.

    And that’s the truth for most artists. It’s a rare situation that an artist is successful SOLEY on the quality of music he or she puts out.

  34. Lots of assumptions being made about what went on between Blake and his label, what the relationship was like, etc.

    The music industry isn’t like Idol. If an artist puts out a record and the public buys it, the label will keep making records with that artist.

    As far as the personality stuff, I don’t believe the record buying public is driven by the personality of an artist the way AI fans are. Folks tend to buy a record because they like the music, Your average person isn’t thinking “Gee X is a nice guy! I think I’ll buy his album!”

    Unless an artist does something HUGE that’s splashed all over the newspapers and internet, an artist sticking his foot in his mouth, or saying some negative stuff is not going to drive his/her sales one way or another.

  35. Though Blake is um, rather blunt, I wouldn’t think this would be a factor in being dropped…..AT ALL. I do think he’s pretty talented, but I guess the retro beat box stuff just didn’t catch on. As others have alluded to, I believe had “Know My Name” been the lead off single, it would’ve made a world of difference, and would’ve been a nice sequeway to his other works. The boy erases any doubt that he’s got soul on this song. (Plus, Lupe Fiasco is pretty hot right now, so a video to coincide with Lupe’s latest wouldn’t have hurt a thing.) I’m not even a big fan, but “Know My Name’ makes every musical bone in my body cry out and want to learn every chord on every instrument. By the time the bass kicks in, I’m a goner! It’s a good thing that Blake has lotsa friends in the industry. I think he’ll be OK.

  36. I’m not saying that J Records dropping Taylor dissuaded him from suing for breach of contract. Just that it may have been fuel to get out of his contract. Not all information comes from members of the “Soul Patrol.” Some use those words like they were cuss words.

    I never liked Blake on the show, so, what happens is of no consequence to me, one way or the other. I have listened to some of his interviews, and, yes, he is arrogant as arrogant can be. Having said that, I expect if anyone would give us the lowdown on AI shenanigans, it would be Blake.

  37. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t believe the record buying public is driven by the personality of an artist the way AI fans are.

    It depends on the music buyer. Maybe you’re the type of buyer that just goes for the music. But I can guarantee you that a large chunk of the record buyinig public make their record purchases based on an artists image. Are they dreamy, sexy, good role models, cool? Can the buyer relate to them and their life? Lifestyle?

    I make my purchases based on a variety of reasons. If I REALLY like the artist, I’ll buy the whole album in a show of support – even if I don’t like every song on it.

    If I don’t really care that much about the artist but like something they put out, I MIGHT buy a single but most likely I’ll just listen to it for free on YouTube.

    Teenagers (a huge market) quite often base their purchases on much more than the music. They LIVE to be fanatic about an artist and it’s usually because it’s because they think they’re hot or cool.

  38. As far as the personality stuff, I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t believe the record buying public is driven by the personality of an artist the way AI fans are. Folks tend to buy a record because they like the music, Your average person isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t thinking à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Gee X is a nice guy! I think Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll buy his album!à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

    Of course not. But at the same time, if someone has never heard Blake Lewis’s music but has heard or read about him acting like an ingrate, they’re not going to say “gee, Blake is really gross! But I think I’ll buy his album anyway ’cause he’s such a rebel!” As snuffles said, Blake isn’t in a position to be able to get away with talking smack in the way a more established artist is in that it didn’t make him cool and didn’t boost his sales. It made him a sore, desperate loser. Of course I don’t know what Blake is like in real life — maybe he helps old ladies cross the street and donates blood every six weeks and funnels all his money into AIDS research. But that’s not how he chooses to come across. So sure, when the final decision about Blake Lewis was made, I’m sure that his sales were very much the predominant factor. But it’s not impossible that Blake’s inability to curry favor through his charm wasn’t also considered. After all, none of us were there.

    Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not saying that J Records dropping Taylor dissuaded him from suing for breach of contract. Just that it may have been fuel to get out of his contract. Not all information comes from members of the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Soul Patrol.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Some use those words like they were cuss words.

    But that also assumes that J Records wanted to keep Taylor on their roster and that they released him so he wouldn’t sue. I just don’t think that a humongous enterprise like Sony/BMG would be at all threatened by that unless they done something incredibly heinous — and Sony/BMG is big and powerful enough to hire lawyers who will make sure that most heinous behavior on part of Sony/BMG would be just fine and dandy under Taylor’s contract.

    And as far as using “Soul Patrol” as a derogatory term, well, I do. Because I’m a fan of Taylor’s, too, but I haven’t chosen to align myself with a clique that insists on spinning every bad thing that happens to Taylor as the best thing ever for him, believes that Taylor is talking in secret codes to them through his occasional podcasts, and engages in so much infighting over ridiculous things like whether Taylor’s girlfriend is a fake.

    And I would very, very much like to read the rumor or article about Taylor being very graciously let go from his contract because he was hold something over J Records’ head.

  39. You know, I REALLY liked “Know My Name”. When I heard that, I thought, hey, Blake might put out a good album. I’m going to give it a listen and give it a chance. And I did. I liked some of the songs. Some I didn’t.

    But, MAN, the more I saw of Blake, the less I liked him. Eventually got totally turned off and any chance of me buying the album completely flew out the window. Because I’m not about to support someone I think is a douchebag. But I tell ya, if I REALLY liked Blake, I totally would have bought his album to support him. But I don’t, so I didn’t.

  40. It depends on the music buyer. Maybe you’re the type of buyer that just goes for the music.

    Yeah, I am.

    But I can guarantee you that a large chunk of the record buyinig public make their record purchases based on an artists image. Are they dreamy, sexy, good role models, cool? Can the buyer relate to them and their life? Lifestyle?

    I’ll take your point on teenagers, but that there are more people than not–adults–spending money on music based on an artist’s image rather than their music? Well, show me the research. lol.

  41. But at the same time, if someone has never heard Blake Lewisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s music but has heard or read about him acting like an ingrate, theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re not going to say à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“gee, Blake is really gross! But I think Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll buy his album anyway à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢cause heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s such a rebel!à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

    Nothing he said or did was publicized in some HUGE way. How many people even saw or heard any of this stuff? Not everyone reads TMZ and Perez Hilton. Not everyone follows the every action of an AI alumnus. None of us know the exact impact that any of his “indiscretions” had and on how many music buyers. But anything he said or did was not nationally known on a Britney-sans-panties level. Yes, I know that his celebrity is obviously not to that level, but I think you get the point.

    As MJ said, unless something is publicized in a huge manner, it’s not going to majorly drive sales one way or another. Blake not saying the things he said was not going to cause him to sell 700K more albums to hit that million that the label expects from their AI people.

  42. I’m actually surprised that he sold as much as he did as I find him an incredibly poor singer and the beat-boxing went out in the 80’s!

    I think he was lucky to have come in second place or he wouldn’t even have the minor celebrity that he has, or the short-lived contract he had. I can’t imagine any record label chomping at the bit to sign him based on one of his demos.

  43. I don’t know that, initially, you can compare the course of an American Idol to a musician who walked in off the street unknown,hungry and mean.

    They come out of the box with a ‘fan group’, unlike the many who struggle to find that pot of gold. If you disappoint your fangroup, or potential future members of that group, you’re kicking your own ass from day one.

    I think that Blake did disappoint a segment of his fan group and a larger portion who were waiting in the wings and, I do think that his public behavior/attitude hurt his sales, within that group and somewhat outside that group. Bad publicity is bad publicity and it’s reported all over the damned place.

    And, I don’t find Blake hip or cool at all ! I sense(d) a mediocre singer who was over indulged, dependent on gimicks and very possibly HIGH MAINTENANCE.

    hit me with your best shot!

  44. There probably is a huge grown up market not being catered to. But I think it’s pretty clear the labels mostly focus on the youth market – especially an artist coming out of AI. They’re hoping those tweens and teens that voted hundreds of times each week will come out in droves to buy their album.

    Kat made a really valid point. If the first thing a potential music buyer hears about an up and coming artist is the rude and obnoxious things they say and do, then the chances of that buyer checking out their music drops significantly.

    Like, if my first impression of Amy Winehouse was the downward spiraling crackhead we see before us now, I would have NEVER checked out her music.

  45. I also suspect that Bo wanted out of his contract if they wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t allow him to make the kind of music he wanted. His sales actually werenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t that bad as far as the other runnerups, with the exception of Clay Aiken

    well but even with clay it seems like those days are over. most of his sales are from his first cd. his latest album isn t even close to 200k after a month. i’d consider it a FLOP.

    i m curious to see what’s gonna happen with archie. hopefully he’ll be around for a while

  46. Not everyone reads TMZ and Perez Hilton.

    No, but a LOOOOT of people do. Especially Perez Hilton. He gets over a million hits to his sight a DAY. I bet TMZ.com does even better.

  47. LOL, the very first thing anyone ever told me about Amy Winehouse was that she was always wasted at her concerts and occasionally had to run offstage to puke. The person forwarded a link to “You Know I’m No Good” to me, along with a link to her myspace; I listened to the music, and subsequently was in the store the week her album came out state-side to buy it.

    No, but a LOOOOT of people do. Especially Perez Hilton. He gets over a million hits to his sight a DAY. I bet TMZ.com does even better.

    LOL, okay. And how many people live in the US? How many buy music? How many of those people who read those sites buy music? How many of those people who read those sites who buy music even CARE?

    If I asked my coworkers what they thought about what Blake said on some random radio station in North Carolina, they would have me committed.

  48. If the first thing a potential music buyer hears about an up and coming artist is the rude and obnoxious things they say and do, then the chances of that buyer checking out their music drops significantly.

    Blake’s remarks were not widely reported, that’s the thing. If the news cycle had picked up on his remarks about Sanjaya, or that off-hand remark he made about “Jews have a lot of money” in a big way, it might have had an impact. It was only the AI internet fans who picked up on the things he said, and commenced with the parsing and the slicing and dicing of his remarks, as only internet fans can do. :).

    I’ll bet if you asked your average music buyer what they thought of Blake Lewis–even if they remembered him beyond Idol–they prolly would tell you they saw him on the Tonight show, or one of the other talk shows, rather than, “Oh I read such and such online…”

    That he turned off a lot of people within the AI internet community–I’ll give you that. But that community is just a small slice of the big picture.

  49. Blake isn’t the musical “genius” he thinks he is and he is cocky and annoying.

    But, I don’t think that has anything to do with him getting dropped from the label. These people only care about money – look at all the disgusting, arrogant, not very well behaved “artists” who still have contracts. Why? Because they are making money for the label. It’s all about sales and how much money they make, period. If Blake made them money, he would still have a contract.

  50. Blake was OK on the show, but in my opinion, if he had been part of Season 7, he would not have made the Top 12. He certainly wouldn’t have finished in the Top 2.

    Too bad he wasn’t astute to realize how flucky he was. He quickly showed himself to be arrogant and full of himself. Not only did he have a middling first album, he blew his chance of ever getting another chance.

    He had a huge opportunity and he squandered it. And judging from his attitude, he won’t handle it well. I predict an unhappy few years for Mr. Lewis.

  51. They come out of the box with a à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹fan groupà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢, unlike the many who struggle to find that pot of gold. If you disappoint your fangroup, or potential future members of that group, youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re kicking your own ass from day one.

    I think that Blake did disappoint a segment of his fan group and a larger portion who were waiting in the wings and, I do think that his public behavior/attitude hurt his sales, within that group and somewhat outside that group. Bad publicity is bad publicity and ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s reported all over the damned place.

    Exactly. And I don’t think “only 1% of the 6 billion people on Planet Earth heard Blake’s statements” is very valid. After all, only 1% of the people in the United States bought Daughtry’s album, but that’s still enough to make him a success. So it’s not about percentages or ratios. I think, at the end of the day, Blake tried a marketing strategy, and it failed miserably. So yes, I do think that his “personality” could have been a factor in his dismissal from Arista, as in “the marketing’s not working.” And no, I don’t think Blake was talented or special enough, at least not in the eyes of Arista, for them to see fit to find another strategy.

    It was only the AI internet fans who picked up on the things he said, and commenced with the parsing and the slicing and dicing of his remarks, as only internet fans can do. :).

    Gosh, I’m sorry. How much “parsing and slicing and dicing” does it take to see that “Jews have a lot of money” or “titties in your mouth” are gross comments?

  52. Gosh, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sorry. How much à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“parsing and slicing and dicingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  does it take to see that à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Jews have a lot of moneyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  or à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“titties in your mouthà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  are gross comments?

    Judging by the length of some of these threads, I’d say an awful lot.

  53. And I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“only 1% of the 6 billion people on Planet Earth heard Blakeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s statementsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  is very valid. After all, only 1% of the people in the United States bought Daughtryà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s album, but thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s still enough to make him a success. So ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not about percentages or ratios.

    It’s as valid as saying that the reason that Blake’s sales sucked was due to the persona he projected after his time on the show. Sure, I’m certain that there were people who heard or read anything he said that was deemed to be “inappropriate” who decided against buying the album, but seriously. How many people did that affect? 100K? 1 million? 10 million? As I said, if any of this was publicized on a large scale, I could see that argument holding water. But really, that one reason does not explain away his disappointing sales.

    And no, I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think Blake was talented or special enough, at least not in the eyes of Arista, for them to see fit to find another strategy.

    Wow, that’s quite a projective statement there! While you’re reading Arista’s minds, can you happen to jump over to RCA and get some info on David Cook’s album for us? :)

  54. Blake badmouthing Sanjaya not only makes Perez and Tmz, it is on People.com. His gross personality really came through.

    I also remember a lot of stories from tour that he was rude to his own fans. He turned off a lot of people that way, people who are potential buyers of his album. But at that time he is too deep in his 5 million sales dream to realize it.

    This “forced to sign with a major label” is total bs, too. It was his dream to be signed by Clive.

  55. Blake was OK on the show, but in my opinion, if he had been part of Season 7, he would not have made the Top 12. He certainly wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have finished in the Top 2.

    Top 2, certainly not. But he probably would have made the top 10 still.

    I didn’t know anything about his personality, so I’m not going to judge him on that at this point.

  56. As someone said upthread, SonyBMG has first right of refusal on all top 12 finishers. If Blake was offered a contract, it was take it or wait out the 3 month clause. Maybe he’d wanted to be signed by Clive (I can see that; regardless of the way AI fans rake him over the coals, Clive has launched some major talent in his career), maybe he sensationalized his comment on that. God knows, NO one, not even fans, ever sensationalizes anything.

    ETA: Caro, I know that this stuff was publicized and I know where. My point is that it was not on a major level. The average American person likely forgot about Blake Lewis as soon as AI was over, IF they watched AI in the first place.

  57. (people mag, perez hilton, tmz = huge exposure)

    I consider huge exposure: When the AP picks up on an item and every single site you can think of posts the same thing over and over again, and the TV gossip shows pick it up–like when Taylor supposedly made that remark about “AI fizzling out”. Even the folks in my office heard about that. The Blake stuff, not so much.

    But then, YMMV on what one might consider “huge exposure.”

  58. While youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re reading Aristaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s minds, can you happen to jump over to RCA and get some info on David Cookà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s album for us? :)

    Well, you know, that’s why I used opinion-indicating words like “I think.” :-) But then again, since it’s all about the money–if Arista did think that Blake was talented or special enough to have the potential for more sales, they wouldn’t have dropped him, right?

    Not everyone likes Blake. In fact, some people think he is downright disgusting. I don’t know what Arista thought of him, but they obviously didn’t think he could sell. Just like they didn’t think Taylor and Katharine could sell.

  59. I am one of those who didn’t read anything negative online about Blake until very recently. I liked him on the show, voted for him and I was looking forward to his album. But I didn’t buy it. After listening to it, I just didn’t like it. I wanted to like it, I really did.

    At the end of the day, it comes down to the music. It really doesn’t how much personality an artist has or how cute he/she is – if the music sucks, I’m not going to hand over the money no matter how big a fan of the artist I am.

    Had I heard the comments that Blake had made, it definitely would have played a part in my decision-making. There are artists who have said and done reprehensible things and I refuse to buy their music whether it’s good or not.

  60. I can’t help but think his arrogance played a part in his dismissal. As arrogant as he came across in interviews, it seems some of that would have to come through when dealing with Arista execs. The Arista execs probably thought… WTF – he has nothing to back up all this talk! Let’s give him the boot!

    I wish I could say the interviews and things I saw about him didn’t influence me but they did… titties in your mouth, the Sanjaya stuff – classless. I’ve never found his vocals very good but I do think the guy has a real talent for arranging very cool stuff. Guess we’ll wait and see what happens. In the meantime, I hope Blake hires a good pr person AND listens to them.

  61. Yeah, Blake dissed Jason too, but, I wasn’t a fan of his before that, so, it didn’t bother me. I just think he has a very jealous, and, mean streak within him. Maybe he could replace Simon on AI when his contract runs out.

  62. Actually, I’m a Taylor fan, but, not a card carrying member of the Soul Patrol. And, I remember, J Records stating they would give Taylor consideration with his new songs. So,that tells me they didn’t just out and drop him. I heard about the possible breach of contract through someone associated with Taylor. And, yes, if they let you out of a contract, and, you were going to sue, that is a mutual decision. Both sides drop it. Just like someone paying someone but not admitting guilt. It saves court costs, lawyers fees, and, a lot of time and hassle to reach a mutual, beneficiary outcome.

    How do people explain the success of some of the hip hop artists if people supposedly base their CD buying on the reputation of the artist?

    I think Clay’s album has gone gold already, so, that means it sold more than 200,000 copies. MJ may have those numbers.

  63. Associated Press vs. Perez Hilton and TMZ

    Well in my opinion all of the above equals “widely reported”, they just have different audiences. I know for a fact that news outlets pick up stories from TMZ and Perez Hilton just as much as they pick up stories from the AP news wire. AP is the traditional way news gets around and Perez Hilton and TMZ is the new school of entertainment news.

    Don’t underestimate the reach of Perez and TMZ. There are people like MJ who would go to an AP news source to get their news first and there are people who will check out Perez Hilton first.

    None of us are saying that Blake’s shitty personality is the main reason he got the boot. I think we ALL agree his horrible sales were first and foremost on the list of reasons why. That an coming off of AI comes with certain sales expectations.

    It’s just that some of us believe when it came time to evaluate whether to continue to take a chance on Blake or cut their losses, his bad reputation certainly weighed in on the decision. That that is why this happened sooner rather than later. Like I said before, there are many other artists on his same label that aren’t doing any better than Blake did, but they still have their record deals.

    Same with other labels. Bucky Covington is on Disney’s Lyric Street. He’s doing the same business as Blake but so far Lyric Street is still sticking with him. Bucky is behaving in public and probably building good relationships.

    Blake is not only acting terribly in public, he’s burning bridges left and right by talking shit about his fellow contestants, 19E, American Idol, people at his label, etc… shall I go on? I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s ticked off a whole lot of people behind the scenes as well as potential music buyers.

  64. When and how did Blake diss Jason? Man, anyone he hasn’t dissed yet?

    He is the quickest to be dropped–of course his attitude rubbed the record label the wrong way. Because he alienated so many fans, the label couldn’t foresee an interest in the future for his album.

    I think the label gave him enough support. He’s promoted the album in AI (25 million audience), all the talk shows, new year eve gig, and all major online news outlet. The songs are just not good enough to take off. No one else to blame except himself and his big fat mouth.

  65. I wonder with all of the cleaning of house lately (not just Blake, but possibly Fantasia and Clay too) that 19 is going to sign more of the class of ’08 than has been suspected?

    On second thought, probably not.

    But the Davids probably look like PR paradise next to Blake.

  66. Chris Sligh posted a blog about this topic.

    It appears at the moment that Blake is staying with 19, so it doesn’t look like he’s pissed anyone off there. *shrug* But, whatever.

    Bucky Covington is on Disneyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Lyric Street. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s doing the same business as Blake but so far Lyric Street is still sticking with him. Bucky is behaving in public and probably building good relationships.

    Bucky also did not come in 2nd place. The standards are just a *tad* bit higher for the 1st and 2nd place finishers.

    Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s promoted the album in AI (25 million audience), all the talk shows, new year eve gig, and all major online news outlet.

    The label also did next to nothing to promote Blake’s singles to radio, well before anything “inappropriate” was ever said. There are mistakes that were made all around. It was not only Blake’s fault.

    The songs not being “good enough” to take off is a matter of opinion. The fact that they (the label) did almost nothing to promote them is pretty clear. Jordin had a major radio tour for “Tattoo” before her album was released. Blake did not have one for “Break Anotha”, and had a pretty small one for “How Many Words.”

  67. How do people explain the success of some of the hip hop artists if people supposedly base their CD buying on the reputation of the artist?

    Because what rappers are usually selling is thug life and bad boy attitude. That’s what their music is about. 50cent couldn’t sell the music he was selling if he was a Harvard educated young man who grew up in a typical nuclear family from the subburbs. Rap fans would have laughed him out of the business (which is what they did to Vanilla Ice once they found out he was full of shit).

  68. Everyone is getting dropped. I’m just wondering if Blake’s fan base is so crazy that they are going to convince themselves he “bought his contract out” too? LOL.

  69. Actually, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m a Taylor fan, but, not a card carrying member of the Soul Patrol. And, I remember, J Records stating they would give Taylor consideration with his new songs. So,that tells me they didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t just out and drop him. I heard about the possible breach of contract through someone associated with Taylor. And, yes, if they let you out of a contract, and, you were going to sue, that is a mutual decision. Both sides drop it. Just like someone paying someone but not admitting guilt. It saves court costs, lawyers fees, and, a lot of time and hassle to reach a mutual, beneficiary outcome.

    I’m not questioning how contracts or settlements work (because I know how they work). What I’m questioning is what J Records could have possibly done to cause a breach of contract, because I’m sure their contracts cover a lot of nasty stuff (just like the AI contracts — at least the season 2 contract — gave 19 the right to defame the contestants). Honestly, I think they were going to let Taylor go no matter what, because 700K without radio airplay isn’t good enough for them, as sad as that is. I do remember the “right of first refusal” bit, and who knows…maybe that’s still out there.

    And skylight, I’m not accusing you of anything personally, but given some of the weirdness in Taylor’s fanbase with people trying to get close to him, his friends, LiMBO, etc…well, whenever the source of a story is “someone associated with Taylor,” it raises an eyebrow. Because apparently a lot of people thought they were “associated with Taylor.” And then it turned out that he didn’t think so.

  70. In many ways, Blake was the “Taylor Hicks” of season 6 – talented and entertaining, but not really in step with the kind of music that is getting airplay and selling CDs these days. He was fun to watch on Idol, but as we have learned the hard way, that doesn’t always equate to CD sales.

    Personally, I don’t think Blake stood out enough to take full advantage of his runner-up status. By that I mean, he was no Clay or Bo, and while more talented than Katharine, he lacks the kind of “assets” Kat has utilized to further her career. He’s done better than other runners-up (Justin and Diana), but with such a limited scope of music, he couldn’t really broaden his base. So he’s dropped.

    I wonder about Archuleta in the face of all this. Archie is younger and more malleable, and that will help. Still, who will they market him to? Will they go the boyband, pop route or the Josh Groban-esque way? It’s impossible to guess at any of this anymore, and anyone who proclaims that anyone from Idol will sell millions is probably deluding themselves!

    Once upon a time, I believed that a certain Idol would sell millions (600K the first week I believe was my prediction!) That didn’t happen, of course, and my expectations from any winner and runner-up are much, much lower. Cook will do well, but is he the next Daughtry in terms of sales? Probably not, but one never knows in this crazy Idol game we play!

  71. Eh, I’m not convinced that Blake’s reputation is that horrible outside of the AI bubble. I don’t think your average person cares, quite frankly.

    Also, none of us really know what Blake’s relationship with his label was like. The low sales and lack of hit singles were truly enough for him to get the boot.

    And, regarding TMZ and Perez. Tabloid stories don’t become big news until the so called “reputable” news organizations like the AP pick up the story and spread it wider–like the Clay Aiken baby story.

  72. Well PEOPLE Magazine online reported on Blakes’ hate filled radio rants.

    I’m just saying, if Blake wants to bounce back and continue on to forge a decent career, a MAJOR attitude check is in order because it certainly played SOME part in why he didn’t do better. Look, I was never wild about Blake but back in November I would have SWORN he would have sold more than Jordin because he seemed more marketable.

    Now I believe the bad attitude he copped from the moment Idol ended slowly chipped away at his potential sales base

  73. Reminder:

    DO NOT generalize about fanbases or question your fellow poster’s motives. That will get your post edited or deleted.

  74. I thought once a story is picked by Perez it is big? Perez is responsible for breaking several new artists into US. His site has millions of hit each day.

  75. Now I believe the bad attitude he copped from the moment Idol ended slowly chipped away at his potential sales base

  76. Just because a label says they will reconsider your new stuff does not have anything to do with it being a mutual parting. IF Taylor had another label to fall back on maybe it would make a little sense for him to leave, but who leaves a label without another (especially a new artist)?

    Taylor was definitely dropped, just like everyone else was. I’m sure the label thinks he has talent, so they said they would consider him once again after listening to his new demos. That is not unusual. If he bought out his contract, it wouldn’t be no big secret. His publicity team would have made that very known. Saying it’s mutual of parting ways is just a way to save face IMO.

  77. I personally believe that the label doesn’t go all out to promote the runnerups songs to the radio stations. Maybe they tried with Kat, but, as far as I can remember, none of the others had any huge promotional efforts.

    Blake made the comment that Jason couldn’t hold a note. But, I didn’t get upset, just chalked it up to the source.

    What I can’t understand is why a label would need to “save face,” when they are dropping artists right and left? This tells me there was more going on there than what any of us know. But, Taylor is still kicking, so, he’ll be fine. Kat is working, so, is Bo, Diana, & Justin. To my knowledge, none of them are going to bed hungry.

  78. Snuffles, I too was a fan of Blake on the show and would have sworn he would sell lots more than Jordin as he seemed a lot more marketable out of the gate. However, I heard his single on one of those radio cable stations and didn’t like it, so I never bothered to buy his album.

    In retrospect it seems to me that Blake wasn’t willing (or able) to be marketed, so 19 pretty much let him loose and wasn’t that invested in making his album a success. Sometimes it’s a bad sign when the record company lets you have that much creative freedom. They probably knew that his personality would get him in trouble ages ago, so they didn’t want to try too hard with him. That’s my outsider’s perspective, anyway.

  79. I really thought Bo would outsell Carrie too. Delusional one that I am. Maybe if he had been allowed to record his type of music – then maybe. But, I’m still a fan of Bo Bice, and, always will be. I love his voice, regardless of how many units he moves off the shelves.

  80. I checked out Chris Sligh’s blog, Sarah. I think he made a good point about Blake’s first single being a mistake. I never liked that song and thought one of the other ones would have been a much better choice. At least 19 will still manage him.

    It may be that record companies won’t be giving the idols as much time to sell these days.

  81. All these rumors about Fantasia being dropped make me laugh. In 2007, she had the second most played song on R&B radio, a duet with Aretha Franklin (who authored an article last week calling her, along with five others, the future of R&B music), three Grammy nominations, and an AMA nomination.

    To get the AMA nomination, she beat out Alicia Keys, Mary J Blige, Ciara, Keyshia Cole, among others. How did she do it? The initial nominees were selected by polling a segment of the population that said they listened to R&B music. In that world, she’s a star. And if you say it’s a niche market, the R&B radio market is just as big as that for country. Country fans just put more $ into their artists.

    She’s not a cross-over R&B artist. That’s why she gets so little respect from the mainstream press, and why she’ll have trouble winning a Grammy. But she’ll be around a lot longer than artists who depend on pop hits to keep them going.

    Oh, and in 2007 she did a little thing called the Color Purple musical for which Oprah has signed her on to do a movie version. “I’m Here” might turn out to be the biggest song of her career.

    Right now she’s in the studio working on her third album. If she can get another hit along the lines of Free Yourself, Truth Is or When I See U, she’ll sell enough to get a 4th album.

    As for Blake, I don’t know if he would have been successful on another label but J Records didn’t help matters. His video was the worst I’ve seen from any Idol. J seemed to put their entire radio budget behind Leona Lewis. But at least he got to release an album that was his sound and style.

    Unless Archie can manage to get on pop or Disney radio, I see him following the trend of one and done.

  82. I just read Chris’s blog too. I also think they chose, ‘Just To Feel That Way,” as Taylor’s first single, when it should’ve been, ‘The Right Place.” Not sure who’s decision it was to release that as the 1st single, but, I also remember he sang, “Heaven Knows,” on every tv show right after his CD was released. That, apparently, wasn’t the first single, as everyone thought. IT didn’t catch on, so, they released the crappiest song on his album for the 1st single. Some may not think so, but, I did. I just didn’t care for JTFTW. It was probably one of the least favorites of mine on the whole album. I do remember that there was a poll on GC, and, the majority of people voted for JTFTW. I guess you don’t put your career in the hands of your fan base?? I’m not sure the song was chosen this way, but, I’ve often wondered.

  83. In any event, thanks all for a very interesting discussion! I didn’t want to study today anyway :)

    I do remember that there was a poll on GC, and, the majority of people voted for JTFTW. I guess you donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t put your career in the hands of your fan base?? Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not sure the song was chosen this way, but, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve often wondered.

    I often wonder exactly how much influence GC had with Taylor and his “people.” I’ve heard some very interesting stories (but of course, they are just that — stories) on both sides. Which of course brings into account what I said before about raising my eyebrows whenever someone claims to be “connected” to an Idol. :)

  84. In retrospect it seems to me that Blake wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t willing (or able) to be marketed, so 19 pretty much let him loose and wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t that invested in making his album a success.

    ARISTA, his label, is the one that dropped him. It appears that right now, 19 is still his management. They have not dropped him.

  85. Water under the bridge and not the topic of convo but I still think Taylor’s first single should’ve been The Maze – but hey – what do I know?

    I liked Break Anotha. Blake got lots of exposure for that song. He did a lot of late night gigs. When he performed it live, he was like a chimp on uppers – making bizarre noises and jumping all over the stage. My daughter had heard the song on the radio and really liked it. When she saw him perform it on tv she said – “What IS he doing? He’s ruining it!” All a matter of opinion I guess… I think he had a shot with that song. He was getting play on top 40 here with it. I honestly think his performances may not have done the song any favors. Who knows.

  86. I actually couldn’t listen to Blake when he performed on AI. I just totally hated the song. Yes, this has been a lively discussion today. Guess we’re all just waiting for the tour to kick in. Only 8 days left. Hope KLC doesn’t put my statement to song. I strongly urge her to back slowly away from anything which has the word 8 in it.

  87. Gemlake, perception is everything and American idols who are in the R&B field are always overlooked. It’s like R&B is the bastard child of the record industry especially as far as idol is concerned.

    I really don’t think that JTFTW was chosen because of GC or the poll. I think it was the wrong choice and I also thought that many picked it because they thought that the song most loved the most TRP wouldn’t be welcome on radio. I always thought they were wrong about that. I liked The Maze, and thought it would have been a better choice than JTFTW because it was one of the less generic songs imho. Truly I don’t think GC whispered in anyones ear to pick JTFTW, just don’t.

    Like I said earlier, I liked Blake’s cd. It didn’t change just because he started saying assy things. I too purchased Amy Winehouse’s cd even after I knew she was a druggy and a train wreck. The cd is banging.

    Clays previous cd went gold. This one doesn’t seem to be doing nearly as well, and if rumours that I hear are true, he is done as well. If Taylor and Ruben had to go, he probably will go too.

    This is a tough game under any circumstances. It seems tptb figure these guys have a built in audience and if they dont cut it after a certain matter of time, adios. I think it is arbitrary and short sighted, but by now, they know the drill.

  88. I liked Break Anotha. Blake got lots of exposure for that song. He did a lot of late night gigs. When he performed it live, he was like a chimp on uppers – making bizarre noises and jumping all over the stage. My daughter had heard the song on the radio and really liked it. When she saw him perform it on tv she said – à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“What IS he doing? Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s ruining it!à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  All a matter of opinion I guessà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ I think he had a shot with that song. He was getting play on top 40 here with it. I honestly think his performances may not have done the song any favors. Who knows.

    Agreed Lu. My daughter really liked Blake on AI and in concert, but oh my god the Break Anotha TV performances were terrible and bordering on embarassing. He may not have gotten a lot of airplay but he got lots of TV appearances most artists would kill for. He probably ended up turning more people off with his bouncing around and howling. Was he not a guest on AI this season? Did that help his sales or downloads at all? I’m sure Arista did many things wrong but I’ll hazzard a guess and say Blake was at fault too for some things.

    As for Blake, I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know if he would have been successful on another label but J Records didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t help matters. His video was the worst Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve seen from any Idol.

    I’ll add his album cover too. Horrendous.

  89. I guess the world wasn’t ready for an 80s mix tape in 2008.

    Blake like Taylor is someone who stands out on Idol for being original and a entertaining performer. Once the show is over, that doesn’t count for a whole lot. In terms of his personality, I think Blake’s album cover hurt him much more than the bad interviews. Blake was the “cute” guy and then somehow lost his appeal. If he was a great singer that wouldn’t matter but he wasn’t a great singer. If and when Cook gains 30 lbs and a few extra double chins, I think he’ll sell less albums too. But he’s still be a better singer than Blake. I think when you get votes by being a heart throb on Idol, you better make the effort to stay “hot.” I know this sounds shallow but I still think it’s true.

    I knew from both Kat and Blake’s horrible album covers that their albums were doomed. Both album covers were so hideous they probably turned off potential buyers. I think Archie has a much better shot at a career than Blake because he’s about 100x a better singer. However, the prospects for runners up on this show is really bad.

  90. I think Archie has a much better shot at a career than Blake because heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s about 100x a better singer. However, the prospects for runners up on this show is really bad.

    I am keeping my fingers crossed for Archie, because I think he has alot going for him. A stellar voice, and he’s attractive, and I don’t think he will be making the same kind of statements Blake made and incurring any ill will.

  91. When he performed it live, he was like a chimp on uppers – making bizarre noises and jumping all over the stage.

    Lu, thanks for the memories! :glurps_tb:

  92. I think Idol artists are different from regular artists and their “personality” off the show does matter. Idol winners and runners up are supposed to decent, humble and appreciative. I think Blake’s antics starting with the “bathroom” video did hurt him. Nobody voted to give Amy Winehouse a record deal. Idol really is a personality contest as well as a singing contest. If they act like creeps on the show they get voted off.

  93. I agree JPFan. Coming off of Idol there are certain expections. Sales wise and image wise.

  94. I was a somewhat Blake fan season 6. I didn’t hear of any of the crappy things he was saying until he got involved in Doxology-gate this season. I just wasn’t impressed with the music. If the cd had been solid, none of the antics would have mattered.

  95. It’s pretty usual in the day in which we live that a news story will be posted on TMZ a good bit before it hits the AP. Don’t know where they get the scoop but they sure do and tons of people read there. I wouldn’t be surprised if the AP has a person who does nothing but read TMZ:)

  96. Clearly what Arista does is purely business. If Blake’s CD had sold well they wouldn’t care about his behavior. The flip side is true too. They’d have dropped Blake even if he were as nice a guy as Archie or Jason.

    For myself, I usually just buy based on the music unless it’s something really extreme. When I was a kid one of my older brothers wanted to buy a Guns N’ Roses album that had a song written by Charles Manson on it. My mother flat out refused to allow this and made him throw out all his other Guns N’ Roses stuff. She refused to have it in the house. Looking back on it I can’t really blame her and if I had been an adult then I wouldn’t have bought it either. That’s a very extreme case though.

    Needless to say, Blake’s dumbass antics aren’t comparable to this but I never bought his CD although I liked a few songs I heard. I have to wonder if I would have been more motivated to get it if he weren’t a jerk. I mean, I don’t really like Archie’s style of music but I could actually see myself buying his CD anyway because I like him.

  97. TMZ gets more hits than Perez Hilton, cheeseball to the stars, who, believe it or not, has gained some creed (go figure).

    Actually TMZ has as well, probably or partly due to their association with AOL.

  98. If Blake is a nice guy, Arista might still dump him, but not so soon. They might have given “know my name” a chance as a third single.

    But he’s gross. People don’t want to root for him. His fans dumped him for Cook. His own label might be angry that he go around publicizing the fight with the label to get “how many words” as the second single.

  99. *But he’s gross.”

    GROSS??? What the hell? Does he eat boogers in public or save his toenail clippings?? Those things are gross. Running your mouth and saying inappropriate things is just stupid and lacking in maturity, but not gross in MVHO!!

    “People don’t want to root for him”

    You got a link or documentation for this incredibly BROAD statement.

    “His fans dumped him for Cook”

    Once again, you got any proof you can share with the rest of us to back up this statement. I know several people, including MANY that are regulars here at MJ’s, that have been Blake fans since the beginning and have yet to drop him as you stated. You don’t have to drop one person to become a fan of another. You know you can have many favorites. Unless there is a new rule that I have not been made aware of, I am a fan of several AI contestants. Liking one does not mean I have to drop my support of another.

    ETA- Sorry peeps but my block quote is not working. Also, I am not a fan of Blake Lewis and quite frankly have no opinion one way or another about his music. I have never even listened to his album…just not that interested. I agree that he has suffered from Foot In Mouth disease, but I firmly believe he was dropped by the label for the simple reason…he didn’t sell enough cd’s for the label to keep him around.

  100. I swear I saw an interview with Blake in 17 Magazine (hot or not hot) where he said his worst habit was quite gross.(I’ll skip the specifics) I hoped that was a joke but ew. Who’d rate him hot after that comment and where’s my brain bleach?

    Blake is having a tough day and I think I’ll pass on any more comments but this interview was gross.

  101. Aww, Bax. I have to take issue with you, though. I liked that dead nail saving freak. I guess he and JCas are buds? LOL.

    And no, I have not caught up on this thread. I’ll say this. Blake isn’t waiting for a press release to announce he’s been dumped. I’m a fan and will remain a fan of his music. I’m not dumping him. :-)

  102. I don’t have a documentary. It’s my opinion. I am sure there are examples, but it is not 100% scientifically correct as you would want.

    Oh, the GROSS thing. Blake said in an interview that he eats boogers. In his blog “poo my pants.” In his myspace video “shitting in the bathroom.” “Titties in your mouth!” Gross is an understatement.

  103. I swear I saw an interview with Blake in 17 Magazine (hot or not hot) where he said his worst habit is eating his boogers. I hope that was a joke but ew. Whoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d rate him hot after that comment and whereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s my brain bleach?

    I never read that, I wouldn’t believe that and that was probably a joke.

  104. I very seriously doubt that Blake didn’t sell records because his fans dropped him for Cook. By the time David Cook showed up, the jury was likely out on Blake. And while the money is the main factor, if Blake had not been such a PR nightmare, his label might have been more patient with him.

  105. ianamy- When you make broad statements that include words like “people” and “fans” you are speaking for a large number of people, not just yourself. Next time you might try using the phrase…” I think….” before you include others in your opinions. Otherwise, please profide links or documentation. MJ doesn’t care for generalizations of fan bases. Please read her guidelines if you doubt me.

    I have a right to my opinon just like you do. I was questioning your “broad” statements about his fanbase and people in general. Let me see, according to the links provided by MJ on this thread, nowhere was any of the information you state included. Going by what was in the links, I found no reason to call Blake gross.

    PJ- You know I was thinking about that guy after I posted. And, although he and JC are buds, that was just WRONG!! :)

  106. From Blake Lewis’s 17 questions

    “11. What’s the fast food you can’t live without?
    I really don’t eat a lot of fast food, but if I do late-night, I love the 99-cent chicken sandwich from Jack in the Box.

    12. What’s your worst habit?
    I still pick my nose and eat my boogers!”

    I’m assuming this was a joke but a really stupid and coarse one. I’m sure it went over great with all the tween girls who read this magazine.

  107. I edited the “chill” part out of Ianamy’s post. Don’t make this discussion personal.

  108. Bax, you missed the HS toenail discussion in chat. LOL. That’s all I’m saying on the blog. LOL. Get your ass in chat.

    As for the boogers comment, I’ll give it a pass. My boyfriend Johnny Depp wants to play Beavis in the live version of Beavis and Butthead. I approve. That’s how I roll. LOL.

  109. ianamy- Not having read or watched the links you just provided, I still stand by my opinion based on the links MJ posted for this thread. I am trying to stay on topic.

    PJ- who is HS??? Sorry I missed that chat conversation…NOT!!! LOL

  110. IMO there isn’t any comparison between Blake and Taylor. One can sing,(Taylor) the other, not so much. And, I never thought Blake was hot or anything else. HE just was. But, this is a tough business, so, I wish him well.

  111. What? Blake “Titties in Your Mouth” Lewis is dropped?

    What took them so long? LOL

    Well, that’s a bit too harsh. But the bottom line is that he is more gimmicky than he is talented, and he is a douchebag. Nobody will put up with that for long..

  112. Just a comment on the impact of TMZ and Perez – I belong to a couple of message boards that are comprised of a bunch of women of various ages that have been chatting for years. There are a few hundred members on each board. AI is always discussed as are most other popular shows. Inevitably, any items from TMZ or Perez are also brought over when they concern people that have taken part in any of the reality shows. The items on TMZ and Perez spread over the internet like wildfire if they are of any interest at all. Their impact is far wider than just their “hits” show.

  113. i agree bobbi. personally i read “Oh no they didn’t” whose Livejournal communita alone has 40k members. i can only imagine the main site traffic. whenever some blake news are posted a huge number of the comments are negative especially when its comes to behaviour/his persona.
    this is his target audience so it definetly comes into play imo. i agree it doesn’t matter for rap artists but for pop artists it does.

  114. The wider world is what I’m talking about, and there are more people who don’t frequent internet chat rooms than do. And of course, we are pretty much leaving men out of the equation completely when talking about internet fan board activity.

  115. “And of course, we are pretty much leaving men out of the equation completely when talking about internet fan board activity.”

    well i wouldn’t think blake had a lot of male fans to begin with tbh lol

  116. That he turned off a lot of people within the AI internet communityà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll give you that. But that community is just a small slice of the big picture.

    I would have to agree with this. Personally, I think Blake is kind of a dick with a really big mouth. But, I don’t think the population at large is aware of any of that.

    The record company made a business decision. I think it’s really that simple. You can’t keep spending money on artists that don’t make you any. I was a fan of Blake on the show, but I didn’t buy his cd because I didn’t really like what I heard of it. But, that’s just one little subjective opinion.

    Why his music failed to capture a larger audience is anyone’s guess. Having a multi-platinum album is like catching lightning in a bottle. If the professionals with years in the business can’t always figure out why some artists are wildly successful and some fail, I know I sure can’t.

  117. Well I firmly believe he alienated a large chunk of his fanbase before his album came out. He dissed the rabid CAKE fans (they may have been silly and annoying but they would have bought his album like hotcakes). He was quite often rude to fans on tour and word spread. I really do think it affected his sales. For every person that buys their music just because they like the music, there are 2 more that buy their music because they like the artist as a person or for shallow reasons (like OMG! He’s so CUTE!).

    I’ve been reading various AI and music boards discussing this topic and I would say that 90% of the commenters don’t believe his dropping was purely a “business decision”. Most of them bring up his unpleasant personality.

    I just don’t think Blake is cut out for fame. I think it messed with his head. I think his future might lie in songwriting and producing. Anything that will keep him behind the scenes.

  118. I would have to agree with this. Personally, I think Blake is kind of a dick with a really big mouth. But, I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think the population at large is aware of any of that.

    Yes, this is the point I’m making. The population at large is not aware of the comings and goings of Blake Lewis.

    A bunch of AI fans on internet message boards believe Blake was dropped because of his personality? That does not surprise me. It’s also proof of nothing. Just because a bunch of people believe something, does not make it true.

  119. The same can be said about thinking Blake being dropped was solely a business decision. I guess the only people who know the truth are the J/Arista executives.

    And even if it WAS just a business decision, the overwhelming PERCEPTION is that Blake screwed himself over with his behavior. And the ugly truth of the entertainment business is that IMAGE MATTERS.

    There’s a reason publicists and public relation firms exist today. Seriously, before Blake moves forward he must acknowledge this fact and work hard to change his reputation.

  120. It’s funny that this is still being bandied about. Is anyone aware of how musicians have been allowed to behave? Wrecking hotel rooms, harrassing women, openly using drugs, etc. Titties in your mouth and mouthing off is nothing in the scheme of things. It was about the numbers people, believe it. It’s always about the numbers unless it involves a dead body or a child being hurt it’s gonna always be about the numbers.

    Yep Blake is a bit of an ass, but listening to the podcast I can’t help but see how dedicated he is to the music and on that level alone I hope he rises from the idol ashes.

  121. The same can be said about thinking Blake being dropped was solely a business decision. I guess the only people who know the truth are the J/Arista executives.

    This is true. But, considering the fact that Sony has just gone through a huge shakeup, with Clive Davis being demoted and a lot of shuffling around of personnel at J records, it’s not a stretch to believe that Blake is merely victim of the current house cleaning that’s going on at the company right now.

    If Blake had eaten some babies, or had the entire nation up in arms over something he did or said, I might believe his “reputation” factored into his being dropped. The AI community seems to have turned against him, but like I said, that community is only a small slice of the wider world.

    I mean, how did Syesha Mercado make it to 3rd place? Enough said.

  122. The same can be said about thinking Blake being dropped was solely a business decision. I guess the only people who know the truth are the J/Arista executives.

    Well, I’m not trying to be disagreeable or anything, but I don’t think it’s entirely the same thing. I believe all evidence would point to most artist-droppings being done for the sake of profits, since that’s what a business as large as this is all about. A company of this size cannot survive by basing its decisions on personality.

    If Blake had sold 2 million records, I think he could have said whatever the hell he wanted and still had a deal. A long time ago, fairly early in her career, I once watched Whitney Houston be the biggest bitch I’ve ever seen to a fairly large number of fans. And, I’m inclined to believe that she acts that way a lot. But, her label never dropped her, because she sold a ton of records. Granted, this was long before she proved her crazy on a tv reality show.

    I think we’ve all seen people have huge career setbacks for saying something incredibly stupid. And, if Blake’s “Jews have lots of money” comment had been aired on CNN, CNBC & Fox news, I might agree that it was a career killer. I just don’t think any of the comments picked up enough steam to be the reason he was dropped.

    They were however enough to make me personally think he’s an asshole, but I never would have heard those things if I didn’t visit MJ’s. So, that makes me a part of the very small population seeking out AI news online. Again, just not really a good sample of the public at large.

  123. A long time ago, fairly early in her career, I once watched Whitney Houston be the biggest bitch Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve ever seen to a fairly large number of fans. And, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m inclined to believe that she acts that way a lot. But, her label never dropped her, because she sold a ton of records. Granted, this was long before she proved her crazy on a tv reality show.

    Yeah but that was before the days of TMZ and Perez Hilton. TODAY people see Whitney as a crazy crackhead and she’s struggling to make a comeback. Clive Davis is trying very hard to show the world that Whitney is getting over her problems and is worthy to be a star again.

    MJ,

    I will agree with you on this point – there are people out there that know nothing of Blake. And if Blake ever gets a chance to make a comeback, then those are the people he can reach.

    BUT, I know that marketing people at record labels go to the internet to take the pulse of the consumer. And on the internet, Blake’s name is MUDD. Now if you were a record label executive, how willing would you be to take on Blake when you are aware of what a bad reputation he has? Especially if money is the bottom line. Would you be willing to invest the money in him when you not only had to get people to listen to his music but also had to work hard to overcome a bad rep?

    People in this business talk and they get a lot of their info via the internet. I’m not in the music business but I’m in television and film. And I hear over and over again that if people think you’re hard to work with, it doesn’t matter how talented you are, they won’t deal with you. The only exception being is if you have PROVEN to be a big money maker. Then they’ll put up with all kinds of crap.

    Blake has not proven he’s a money maker. Right now he’s got a rep as someone who can’t sell AND is an asshole. Blake is going to have a REALLY hard time convincing people to believe in him and his talent again. That is why I firmly believe a major attitude change is necessary if he wants to continue on in the business.

  124. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s always about the numbers unless it involves a dead body or a child being hurt ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s gonna always be about the numbers.

    And sometimes not even that is enough. R Kelly still has a deal with Jive and a new album coming out in July.

  125. And sometimes not even that is enough. R Kelly still has a deal with Jive and a new album coming out in July.

    Good point. In the end, it’s all about the Benjamins.

  126. I dunno. It takes a lot of factors coming together right to launch an artist successfully and none of them seemed work out for Blake. His voice blew out (vocal cord hemorrhage, like Jordin) late in recording the album which pushed back the release date past Black Friday. It also made him sound like crap on his promo performances. and that was on what promo he was able to get considering it was holiday season and the writer’s strike was on. The public suddenly decided they loved Sanjaya. The label didn’t give him enough direction to avoid missteps with the video, album cover, rocked-out tv performances, PR. He also didn’t get much support in getting airplay for his singles.

    This may sound like a list of excuses from a Blake fan but I find it hard to believe that the default expectation is Much Success considering the track record of other runners up. Especially in this kind of market. He could’ve been downright David-ish in terms of PR and I honestly don’t think it would’ve made that much difference.

    And, good doesn’t mean it’ll make money, just like making money doesn’t mean something is good. Take a look at the top ten songs in any given week. Lil Wayne went first-week platinum when Kanye could not. Who could’ve seen that coming? It’s really all a crapshoot.

    All jmo.

  127. R Kelly was found not guilty recently. After all of those years, the record company must be very happy that they did not drop him after he was accused.

    I may be an exception but I don’t buy the music of people that I don’t like. If I don’t like the artist, I don’t really pay attention to the songs. I would not support an artist that I don’t like by buying his/her music. No song is that good to me.

    On the other hand, if I like an artist, I will sometimes buy the CD even if I have only heard one song, just to support the artist. I bought Bucky’s CD even though I don’t really care for country music. I like him, so I bought his CD just to support him. People will tell other people how they feel about an artist, good or bad.

    I think that Blake lost a lot of fan good-will by being a jerk. I also think that he lost a lot of support from the general public who heard or read his interviews. To people who were not already fans, he came across badly in a lot of the interviews. The reporters and DJs who interviewed him may have disliked him because of the attitude and ungrateful manner in which spoke about AI and fellow AI contestants. It’s not good to be cocky without a proven track record of success. Also, he sounded awful during most of the live performances that I saw on TV.

    When I was following my favorite Season 5 contestant’s radio play rise, I came across some websites where radio MDs, PDs and DJs post and talk about artists. I don’t still have the links but they discussed different artists and whether or not they would play their songs and why. Blake would have had to win them over also. Since he got very limited radio play, he apparently didn’t. If they thought that he came across as a jerk, that may have hurt him.

    If people did not buy Blake’s CD because they thought the songs sucked and they did not like his abrasive personality, a cocky, new artist with limited radio appeal and a bad attitude would be a hard sell for any record label so I’m not surprised that Blake was dropped.

  128. I may be an exception but I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t buy the music of people that I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like. If I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like the artist, I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t really pay attention to the songs. I would not support an artist that I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like by buying his/her music. No song is that good to me.

    Yay! I’m not the only one! I bought Bucky’s too and I do NOT like country – lol – but I love Bucky and hope he’s successful. I was happy to make a small contribution to his success.

    When I was following my favorite Season 5 contestantà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s radio play rise, I came across some websites where radio MDs, PDs and DJs post and talk about artists. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t still have the links but they discussed different artists and whether or not they would play their songs and why.

    Oh I wish you had those links still. I’d be very interested to read what they had to say!

  129. Not a fan of either Jordin or Blake that season and I don’t buy albums to support artists.I only buy them because I like the music/vocals. However, since her season ended I have been rooting for Jordin. She seems like a terrific person and a positive role model for teens out there. She’s has huge hits and didn’t have to become anorexic to make it.

    No opinion on Blake’s post idol music as it’s completely not my thing. From neutral I went to active dislike as his interviews made him seem like a jerk. I think he needs some new friends as the ones who think he’s funny aren’t doing him any favors. I feel sorry for the guy though and he seems to have enough talent as an arranger/producer to have some kind of career in music. We’ll see.

    Season 6 has become the “forgotten” season. I think many people think Jordin is a new artist on the scene and don’t really connect her with Idol. Lucky for her.

  130. I too bought Bucky’s album and I had never bought a country album before. WHY? Because I really liked Bucky and wanted to help out a little in his success.

  131. I think it goes either way if someone purchases a CD based on personality. I have a close friend who does this very thing, but I’m one who buys it based on the music and whether or not I like it. I think several contestants this season seem very sweet and genuine, but if they put out albums mirroring there AI performances, I won’t be purchasing them.

    FWIW, I have several friends who really like Blake, and never get on the AI boards/blogs, and therefore, had no idea he ever said anything controversial.

    Chris Sligh’s blog sums it up nicely I think. Blake’s voice for me has always been nice enough, but I really like his ability to arrange music, and I hope he finds his niche as he clearly loves music.

  132. jmo. . .
    i “knew” his album wouldn’t be successful, i didn’t hear a hit single on it.
    he will be a successful producer IF he knocks off the attitude.
    he has a ear for music and beats but he is NOT a great singer.
    he has to realize that he is not the star but he can make A LOT of money from producing.

    Here’s to hoping.

  133. Hey everybody. New to this site but after reading all of the responses above I thought I’d leave my 2-cents worth as well.

    I’m fan of both Davids of the current season of AI, although I’m more inclined towards DA. I’m not a real fan of rock music ala Daughtry / Cook but I may listen to a couple of rock songs if they catch my fancy. The point is I may just buy DC’s cd when it comes out simply cos I like him. Why do I like him? A big part of that is ‘cos he genuinely gets along very well with DA and DA definitely looks up to DC. I’ll for sure buy DA’s cd but ‘cos DC treats him so well I’ll buy DC’s cd as well.

    So the fact is fanbases may cover more than one artists and by alienating other fanbases Blake is not doing himself a lot of favour. This may not make much difference now but in any future releases he may not get the support he may otherwise get. It is evident that a lot of DA’s fans were also Blakes fans during AI6, but having dissed DA so publicly, the fans are up in arms and the support for Blake that was once there is vanishing rather quickly. As some of the responses have pointed out in this business, image and PR skills counts whether you like it or not.

  134. I just checked out “Know My Name” on youtube because everybody seemed to think it was so good and would have been big if released as the first single. But I didn’t think it was good, so I guess I just don’t get Blake’s music.

  135. Delurking to say HI MJ Folks!

    “Unless Archie can manage to get on pop or Disney radio, I see him following the trend of one and done.”

    We hear Archie’s “Crush” on Disney along with Daughtry, Jordin Sparks, Carrie Underwood, Kelly Clarkson and Leona Lewis – oh, and David Cook’s Magic RainbowsTM. (Poor David Cook). I think Archie got a PERFECT song for his first single. It’s not my cup of tea at all by my daughter LOVES him and it fits her Radio Disneyesque playlist perfectly. He won’t sell like the Jonas Brothers but I think he’ll do fine. Disney seems to be a goldmine and the 19 peeps must have some kind of promotion deal because I hear an Idol singer every third song.

    I hear Taylor, Bo, Elliott and Kelly in the supermarket.

    As for Blake, I liked a few of the songs on his album but never got around to downloading them.
    I tuned out before all the “grossness” so I can only judge the music. I just got the impression that he wasn’t a priority for his label. Same as Taylor Hicks. I will always be a Taylor Hicks fan, but I’m hoping his future work is more from his heart – meaning organic and gritty and not touched by Clive Davis in any way.

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