American Idols Live – Vancouver, Canada – 07/08/09

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Here it is! Your thread for tonight’s American Idols Live! Tour in Vancouver, CA. Here’s the drill’you guys chat in comments, I’ll be posting links, videos and pictures out front. If you are still looking for tickets for an upcoming show, check out: Ticketmaster, Ticket Liquidator, or StubHub.

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If you’re going to a show are are willing to photograph, videograph, twitter and/or re-cap, email me at mjsbigblog at gmail dot com.

Twitter: xtne72, Glambert614,

Video:

Kris: “Bright Lights”, “Ain’t No Sunshine”, “Heartless”,
Adam: “Bowie Medley”, “Bowie Medley”, “Slow Ride” w/ Allison, “Slow Ride”,
Allison“Cry Baby”, Barracuda, “So What”

Videos courtesy of: Jazzy19001, Paopukitten, Spevensie,

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485 Comments

  1. Per idolbenches, here’s a twitterer for the evening:

    http://twitter.com/xtne72

    I’ll post if I find more.

    It’s actually more fun to follow the show on Twitter than cellcasts. So my accompaniment tonight is the US Men’s soccer game v. Honduras. :)

  2. According to that Tweeter Adam wasn’t on the bus with the other Idols.

    @junefk sadly no sign of adam. I wanted to see him too. He wasnt even on the bus with the other guys.

    It seems Adam is doing so much at once, I hope he doesn’t burn out. Was DC and DA doing a lot of side stuff while touring too?

  3. It’s actually more fun to follow the show on Twitter than cellcasts. So my accompaniment tonight is the US Men’s soccer game v. Honduras. :)

    LOL, LisaE, me too! Multitasking :)

  4. maybe he was on the bus with the girls!!! since the twitter said no bus for the girls yet. I’m just sayin…..

  5. Wasn’t today Adams’ press day? Kris did press yesterday, so today was Adam’s turn. Maybe that’s where he was…doing some interview(s)

  6. Earlier, I read on another twitter that security told them Adam would be arriving on another bus an hour after all the other idols.

    “Security just said adam is travelling separate and arriving in an hour”

  7. Isn’t the winner supposed to handle the press? It comes with wearing the crown. It’s ridiculous to make the loser do the press. He should have the afternoon free to play golf.

    Let Donny do it.

  8. Rickey is too busy calling Vote for the Worst to even put up the cell cast…

  9. they are in the most beautiful city in the world. I hope they got to see a little bit of it.

  10. Suzanne it fooled me too when I first saw it – I got all giddy. There is another one with Adam kissing Kris’ temple.

  11. yeah that pic is photoshopped … is it sad that I recognise the pic of Adam as one that he had taken with a male fan yesterday? .. I really should get out more.

    So do you think that Adam’s travelling on a separate bus so he can bring all his accessories with him? (joke)

  12. this isn’t related to the vancouver show specifically but it’s concert-related so I figure it’s on topic…

    i wasn’t gonna go to the concert but i’ve been hearing such good things about my favorite people and their sets (plus watching the youtube videos) that i’ve been compelled to buy a ticket. the only problem is that none of my friends and family would be able to go with me so i’d be flying solo…i’ve never been to a concert by myself, and this one seems cheesy enough as it is, so is it weird to go by myself? haha honestly…i wish i weren’t self-conscious about it

  13. So someone put their heads on a photo of two other guys? Man–it looks so real. the height differential is perfect. Geez.

  14. I saw another pic where they ´re kissing in the mouth, I hope no one show that one to Kradam, I think is too much. I ´m waitinfg for the twitters…

  15. The cell caster isn’t calling in. So far they’ve missed Sarver anyway…maybe Megan and Lil?

    Hopefully this person calls in at least in time for the 2nd half of the show…

  16. bcr107
    I’m going by myself. Couldn’t get good seats for more than 1 person in Duluth, GA. My husband is dropping me off but I don’t feel uncomfortable about it. In fact, I like going alone so that I’m only embarrassing myself when I start screaming for Adam. I’m way too old for all this silliness but I just can’t help myself. He does things to me!!

  17. I read somewhere the cellcaster wasn’t calling until Scott or after Scott, something like that.

  18. bcr107
    Jul 8th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
    this isn’t related to the vancouver show specifically but it’s concert-related so I figure it’s on topic’ ¦

    i wasn’t gonna go to the concert but i’ve been hearing such good things about my favorite people and their sets (plus watching the youtube videos) that i’ve been compelled to buy a ticket. the only problem is that none of my friends and family would be able to go with me so i’d be flying solo’ ¦i’ve never been to a concert by myself, and this one seems cheesy enough as it is, so is it weird to go by myself? haha honestly’ ¦i wish i weren’t self-conscious about it

    Somehow I don’t think you’ll actually be alone!

    I think I’m actually weirder — I am going with people to see Memphis but I got 1 ticket to Little Rock and will be there alone — maybe the only Kradison fan in the audience!! Yipes!

  19. sounds better than last night…the sound better not freaking die when it gets to Adam

  20. The photoshop is from two pics of the boys each hugging a fan.

    How is the quality of Ricky’s cellcert tonight?

  21. they are in the most beautiful city in the world. I hope they got to see a little bit of it.

    One of the prettiest for sure. I heard the weather wasn’t great, so that’s a bummer. I love Vancouver. I hope the Idols have a great concert! I wonder if Canadian fans are more/less invested than their American counterparts. Can’t wait to see the pics and vids.

  22. Based on twitters — crowd is very Adam-centric in BC. Right now Scott is on and getting great response!

  23. Looks like Rickey is just calling in for certain idols, not all of them. Hes gonna wait until Anoop comes out.

  24. But for some reason they aren’t doing a full cell cast? They aren’t doing Lil’s set at all

  25. bcr107
    I’m going by myself. I couldn’t get good seats for more than one person. My husband is dropping me off but I don’t mind going alone at all. In fact, I will be more comfortable being alone so I won’t be embarrassed while I’m screaming for Adam. I’m way to old for all this silliness but Adam does things to me.

    I hope Jess doesn’t give Kris and Adam another picture with them kissing or having sex. I might never get on the internet again.

  26. I hope fans don’t freak out on the manip photos. It’s the first time I’ve seen this stuff and fanfic. It makes some people happy. That’s great! I’m sure the idols realize it is all in good fun. Kinda (well most definitely) different for me, but it’s all in the name of adoration of these cute idols. It is kind of funny too.

  27. Q3

    Wouldn’t there be lots of Kradison fans at Little Rock? We know there will be tons of Kris fans there obviously, but Adam’s evidently quite popular in Arkansas too. And who wouldn’t love Allison?

    I’m going to the Staples Center show by myself. It’s a little weird…I go lots of places on my own…but not usually to concerts or clubs. Movies, restaurants, sporting events…those just seem easier to go to alone for some reason.

    I have a feeling that while I may hang out after the show to see if the Idols come out, I’ll be too embarassed to try and get a picture or autograph…I’m really too old to act like a batshit fangirl (that’s what I tell myself anyway)

  28. While we wait, lets all just stare at the alien from planet fierce

    I love that picture! Can Adam give eye make-up lessons?

    As for the manips, I know someone showed both Kris and Adam that one of them hugging. They both laughed and Kris said they do that (hugging like that) all the time. LOL!

  29. I’m going to the L.A. concert by myself also. Don’t know about waiting for them to come out though.

  30. Q3

    Wouldn’t there be lots of Kradison fans at Little Rock? We know there will be tons of Kris fans there obviously, but Adam’s evidently quite popular in Arkansas too. And who wouldn’t love Allison?

    I have no idea what to expect. I know there will be a lot of Kris fans, and I’m sure they’ll love Alison, but it is the first show I’ll see live and, although I am a kradison fan, my heart belongs to Adam, so I think it will be odd. My one seat is great!! I see them in Memphis the next night — less good seat but a little closer to home and I’ll have freinds and family with me. I expect Lil to get a great reception in her home town but the crowd to be Kradam. Arkansas is just across the river. So I am sure my two concerts will be Kris heaven.

    I keep picturing a scene with one lone, not so young Adam fan, standing up and cheering for Adam. I know it won’t happened but …

    Still hoping to convince my husband to go with me — but doubt he will do two Idol concerts in a row!!

  31. They both laughed and Kris said they do that (hugging like that) all the time.

    I didn’t know that part LOL!

    Did Jess post about the show in Tacoma??? Or did she just tweet?

  32. I love those freckles on his lips.

    Don’t even get me started on the lip freckles. *swoon*

  33. man I wish my husband would put out computer somewhere else so I could stay up all night on line but he’s going to bed and I was hoping to find a better twitterer for tonights show before I had to get off. OH well , night guess I’ll have to check back in the morning for updates!

  34. I didn’t know that part LOL!

    Did Jess post about the show in Tacoma??? Or did she just tweet?

    She had a whole post about it, along with pictures. I think it’s on ontd_ai. There’s a hilarious picture where she’s about to show Kris the manip and he’s got that look where he sucks in his lips like he’s trying not to crack up. Too adorable!

  35. man I wish my husband would put out computer somewhere else so I could stay up all night on line but he’s going to bed and I was hoping to find a better twitterer for tonights show before I had to get off. OH well , night guess I’ll have to check back in the morning for updates!

    LOL

  36. Matt is up now and I think Rickey’s cellcaster is a Matt fan. The screams!!

  37. According to that Tweeter Adam wasn’t on the bus with the other Idols.

    @junefk sadly no sign of adam. I wanted to see him too. He wasnt even on the bus with the other guys.

    It seems Adam is doing so much at once, I hope he doesn’t burn out. Was DC and DA doing a lot of side stuff while touring too?

    Yes, frequently both DC and DA were doing side projects like recording and were not always on the bus.

  38. While we wait, lets all just stare at the alien from planet fierce
    http://s369.photobucket.com/albums/oo136/dhc1843/AI8/?action=view&current=adam-after4b.jpg

    That is a beautiful picture. He should have a copy of that, whomever took it should send it to him.

    Man, BB is so pretty. Just. Stop. Please. Okay, please don’t. Now I AM kind of wishing I was going by myself. I do tons of stuff alone and there is such freedom to that. Hey, you always get to do what you want. I called up a friend from high school (who I keep in touch with) on a whim. I know she’ll be a blast, but it didn’t get that she was a big Kradison fan, as I am. I hope she won’t think I’ve lost it (although she’s very fun, she’ll go with it).

    I can’t imagine she’ll understand wanting to Twitter and take stills and video (can I sneak out my company’s high-def digital camera?). I probably would do better on my own.

  39. My nine year old keeps talking about meeting Adam. “When I meet Adam… I’m going to ask him to sign my magazine”.. “When I meet Adam… I’m going to give him a big hug”. It’s heartbreaking. Yikes! I keep telling her I have no idea how all of that works (and we probably won’t meet him) and we should just be happy to see the concert. But she and her American Girl dolls had an Adam “concert” tonight on my computer with the AI videos. sigh….

    Sorry for off topic. But reading everyone’s fan posts, made me think of my little fangirl. Who get’s updates from her fan mommy. So I guess I should expect it.

  40. iluvai, that is so sweet! Here’s to hoping you get lucky and your little fangirl gets to meet him!!

  41. Susan M. I really understand. I work in the jaded Media and Entertainment industry. When I move out of LA — to Mississippi — they thought I was strange. But when I finally admitted to a few of my collegues that I was an AI/Adam fan in April, they thought I was absolutely crazy. Thankfully, since they have seen some video — particurly the concert video — they now realize I was just brilliant!

    A couple high-powered movie folks I know actually worked to get good seats for the Staples Center Show which is now a how ticket. The first four rows are up to $3,500 now. I know that some people are selling LA tickets and then buying better Phoenix tickets. LOL.

  42. iluvai, that is so sweet! Here’s to hoping you get lucky and your little fangirl gets to meet him!!

    That is so sweet. I know it’s a long shot, but why not tweet Adam about her. He seems to be reading a lot of fan tweets and even answering a few.

    At the least, have her write him a letter. He is really answering a lot of kids letter. I don’t know how, but I assume someone is sorting his mail for him. I know a 14 year old fan who got a real, personally signed photo from him last week. So it could happen. Best of luck!!

  43. iluvai, my 6 year-old daughter is a huge Adam fan, too. She’s not going to the concert but when she saw what I’m wearing (something cute…not fantardish) she said, “Oh, Mommy, Adam will love it!” I tried to explain to her that Adam won’t even see it, but she doesn’t get it. She’s convinced that I’m going to get to meet him and talk to him and bring back pictures. I wish….

  44. @Q3, that’s awesome!! I’m also in media and was going to try to hit up my LA LIVE contacts (who have been begging me to cover them), but now they’re occupied, what with MJ yesterday and all. Adamland and I were discussing it earlier. I’m going to Ontario on Friday, but am dying to either go to Staples on Thursday, but more likely San Diego on Saturday. Adamland said Phoenix was the hot ticket. It’s on Monday though, so there’s no way.

    I can totally see myself charging the best single ticket I can find to San Diego on Saturday (just a mere 70 minutes away and I have NO commitments that day). I think it will be a blast. Still haven’t found an outfit. May have to do a repeat.

  45. The first four rows are up to $3,500 now.

    wow, is that true? That is up there with JT or Madonna. I wish they were playing Madison Square Garden instead of NJ. More likely to get the big music honchos there.

  46. I’m jumping the gun, but my stepmom, sisters and nieces are going to whatever show is on July 10th. I think I posted that before, so sorry if I did. I’m just so excited for them. And my sister Angie, if you read this, Happy Birthday!!!!

  47. I hope nobody pays anywhere that amount for a ticket. Even completely “sold out” Idol concerts will magically have tickets that show up the day of the concert. Usually from ticket brokers who couldn’t find people crazy enough to pay that amount.

    If anyone does pay that amount they’ll feel like complete fools the day of the show when they find out others paid a fraction of that. But of course, in Idol land no amount of money is too crazy to spend so I guess as long as they’re not using rent money it’s OK. Which I guess would apply to “industry” folk.

    But if the demand for tickets were that great (and it may be), AI will add more shows. They did last year and it can be done fairly easily if the demand is really there. Trust me no way would they pass up the extra $. They usually add the extra show(s) in the hometowns of the winners/runner ups. I’m surprised they haven’t already announced the added shows. (I think they added shows last year after the tour started but I could be wrong.)

  48. If you look at the real resale sites, the LA and SD shows have gone a bit nuts but just for the real good, “VIP” seats.

    I was surprised that Little Rock was only up to about $1,100 asking which I think means $900 real selling. I know I just bought Little Rock 1 great Little Rock ticket for less then face value — because it was an “extra” ticket.

  49. Mar: Thanks. She is a tiny fan girl for sure!

    Jpfan: I sure wish I understood the whole ticketing process. I just don’t get it at all. Oh well.

  50. Ellie2: Awww…. that is so sweet. The little kids love the idols, but they don’t realize that moms are small fish in a BIG ocean of fans. So cute. My six year old son is not going. He is a big Kris fan. His sister keeps trying to threaten him with I will/will not get you a Kris signature. I keep telling him that we won’t be getting signatures and don’t let her fool you like that!

    Soooo.. what is your outfit like? I have no idea what to wear. It probably won’t identify me as an Adam fan. But I want to show some spirit too. Hmmmm…..maybe glittery eyeshadow and a black top. squeee…. I have no idea…LOL

  51. The hometown shows always have the biggest demand. And I could see “celebs” bidding up the price of the VIP seats. But if there was an incredible demand for tickets in any city, there is always the option to add a show. Especially because this year’s tour is the shortest it’s been in years with lots of “off days.” And last year they had 2 shows in Archie and Cook’s hometowns. They should def do the same for Adam and Kris.

  52. iluvai, I know how you are feeling. My 9 year old daughter is the same. She said she wants an autograph from Adam, Kris, Allison and Matt. I keep telling her there is no guarantee but then she is seeing all these people getting autographs so she’s so sure she will get it.

    I’m attending the one in Sacramento and now I’m getting paranoid thinking maybe since it will be the first one in California that maybe they will be doing other things and not be available. If I don’t get one for me I can live with that. Not sure if my daughter can get past the heartbreak.

    As for the cellcasting tonight. Its a little clearer than last night although it keeps cutting out. I’m just now tuning in. By what I am understanding they didn’t play the whole concert so I guess its a good thing I passed up listening to it tonight. I’ll just wait until Friday and hear it LIVE!

  53. The additional hometown shows for the David’s were added immediately, like within an hour of the initial ticket sale because the first shows sold out that fast. If they were going to add shows this year they would have done it by now would be my guess.

  54. jpfan —

    Not much space to add anything in the South:

    Dallas, TX July 23, 2009
    Tulsa, OK July 24, 2009
    North Little Rock, AR July 25, 2009
    Memphis, TN July 26, 2009
    Tampa, FL July 28, 2009
    Sunrise, FL July 29, 2009 (Ft. Lauderdale)
    Duluth, GA July 31, 2009
    Charlotte, NC August 1, 2009
    Greensboro, NC August 2, 2009

    And I know there are tickets available for Tulsa and Memphis. Little Rock there are a lot of broker resale tickets out there but it’s sold out.

  55. Q3:

    Thanks. Her favorite video is “Crying”. She has an opinion on all of them. LOL

    (sorry to those of you who don’t get the cute kid stories. — but tons of kids are big fans!!!!)

  56. Glambert614Alison a real cutie! She should get rid od the guitar prop tho.

    Alison keeps getting this comment.

  57. OT but for fun ‘” here is a Adam WLL that just got posted on YouTube:

    Great Adam WLL Tacoma

    HOLY CRAP!!

  58. OT but for fun ‘” here is a Adam WLL that just got posted on YouTube:

    Great Adam WLL Tacoma

    Okay, who is this person and how does she get such incredible video? That blows everything else I’ve seen out of the water (granted, I have not seen a lot from today) but that is probably the most sexually intense video/performance I’ve ever seen.

    F.U.C.K.

    Yes, Ellie2, keep the little one at home. :devil_tb:

  59. The hometown shows always have the biggest demand.

    Actually, looks like this years “hottest ticket” is Prudential Center in Newark, NJ based on selling prices (action market). Some one paid $6,800 EACH for 4 front row seat. Now someone else is asking $7,100 for Row 1.

    I have seen a few higher asking prices, but not sell prices. And Canada had the least expensive tickets.

  60. I was posting that person’s videos in the Tacoma thread…he/she took video of all of Adam’s performances and they’re all amazing quality.

  61. OMG! How could Adam top that?

    I have no idea. I didn’t even wach the whole thing before I had to post the link.

  62. Shadow-rider: These little fans are sweet and I’m sure the idols realize that. Good luck!! I hope you guys have fun at the concert. Your daughter has some good taste! LOL!!!! I wonder if you are going to the same show as my sisters(?) July 10th??? Anyway, have fun.

  63. Bad news:

    xtne72 Btw unable to record videos of tonyt’s show. Security is pretty tight plus i’m in the 3rd row & this security dude is sitting infront of me

  64. Did Danny’s dancing kill the cell cast or something? Everything went dead silent…and we are missing Adam and Kris now!

  65. People are free to pay any amount they want. However, the day of the show there are usually seats available for even SOLD OUT shows. But the crazier fans will always be there to dig into the piggy bank I guess. As long as they don’t ask the other folks there, how much they paid for their seats all will be well. Hopefully $6,000 is chump change to them or they really are chumps.

    I think I’ll just assume those prices are exaggerated or phony. The thought of any one paying $24,000 for four tickets to see an Idol show is so absurd I’d rather not believe it. If the money was going to charity, it would be better. But if it’s true, some scalper is getting it all. Yuck.

  66. I think I’ll just assume those prices are exaggerated or phony. The thought of any one paying $24,000 for four tickets to see an Idol show is so absurd I’d rather not believe it.

    I agree.

    Adam’s singing MW.

  67. yay! MAD WORLD now! RICKEY’S sound was sooo much better tonight!!!

  68. sarapocock

    I don’t really care who won Americal Idol, Adam Lambert has the best voices I’ve ever heard! Holy shit! Wow! Wow! Wow!
    half a minute ago from TwitterBerry

  69. pazagusti:

    Vancouver loves Adam!!!less than 10 seconds ago from txt

    I knew Adam was going to blow my mind but nothing could have prepared me for this3 minutes ago from txt

    Adaaamm! omg, can’t breathe think i’m gonna pass out8 minutes ago from txt

  70. They are in NYC area for several days…I think they have 2 shows in North Jersey and 2 out on L.I? Would have to double check sched but I think that’s right

    Slow Ride!

  71. sarapocockI don’t really care who won Americal Idol, Adam Lambert has the best voices I’ve ever heard! Holy shit! Wow! Wow! Wow!
    2 minutes ago from TwitterBerry

  72. Just for fun, I just checked the Official Tour site and was offered a very decent seat at the AI tour in Newark for $55. So tickets are still available and for much less than $6,000.

  73. Did anyone see a tweet claiming someone threw a bra at Adam — and he threw it back?

  74. Another pic from Becky. The funny thing about this one (Adam’s a tiny speck): Look at all the bald, grey heads in the foreground. Industry execs? Let’s hope so, but chances are, they’d have better seats. Either way, it’s proof this is no longer a tweens-only concert. http://twitpic.com/9rb0r

  75. xtne72Hahaha brassierre being thrown at adam. He threw it back.

    ROTFLMAO

  76. JPFan — I just search for the highest sold action tickets. And there are no Row one seats anywhere for $55.

  77. Looks like the AI tour is attracting many senior citizens. I doubt “industry execs” would have seats that bad. As long as they didn’t cash in their 401Ks for the seats, all is well. I never said a row one seat was selling for $55. Just that you could still get decent seats in the lower section at that price in Newark. The front row will always be at a premium.

  78. Another pic from Becky. The funny thing about this one (Adam’s a tiny speck): Look at all the bald, grey heads in the foreground. Industry execs? Let’s hope so, but chances are, they’d have better seats. Either way, it’s proof this is no longer a tweens-only concert. http://twitpic.com/9rb0r

    The Tacoma show reviews and my friends said it was filled with middle aged couples and kids. Lot’s of people over 30. And this picture confirms that!

  79. Ok — throwing bras at a gay guy — funny, but pointless! Love to hear Adam’s reaction to that!

    I hear more screaming…for Kris…as I now hear Heartless

  80. Oh man, I want to see Adam’s face when he caught that Bra. ROFLMAO

  81. The additional hometown shows for the David’s were added immediately, like within an hour of the initial ticket sale because the first shows sold out that fast. If they were going to add shows this year they would have done it by now would be my guess.

    Yes. They’ve never added extra shows at this stage. Usually it’s after the tickets go on sale initially. If some cities sell out fast, more shows are added right away. They pretty much know immediately what the demand is.

  82. More from twitter about the red bra:

    oh he was totally into it. He waved it around before throwing it back

  83. Q3: Glambert614Alison a real cutie! She should get rid od the guitar prop tho.

    Alison keeps getting this comment.

    She shouldn’t be getting it, and she shouldn’t get rid of the guitar. She looks great with it, and she wants to continue and improve with it, so it’s good experience for her.

  84. I am almost old enough to be Adam’s mama but I can’t help myself. I just find him to be absolutely delicious!! Damn that boy can move like no one else can.

  85. Glambert614Wow! You can’t even imagine adam live! No one sat the whole set!

    sarapocock@adamlambert wow! Vancouver, he’s fabulous! nothing I’ve ever heard before. His talent is endless!! Holy fuck!!

  86. oh he was totally into it. He waved it around before throwing it back

    ====

    HAHAHA, I love this dude.

  87. She shouldn’t be getting it, and she shouldn’t get rid of the guitar. She looks great with it, and she wants to continue and improve with it, so it’s good experience for her.

    It’s very apparent that she can’t play the thing at all.

  88. Thanks for the info. I knew they added the shows but couldn’t remember at what point. I’m a little surprised they didn’t add more shows for this tour because the concerts seem to be doing good business so far.

    And there are good seats available at both the Long Island and Newark shows for $70. Not in the first row of course (yet).

  89. @_SimplyChelsea_ oh he was totally into it. He waved it around before throwing it back3 minutes ago from Tweetie in reply to _SimplyChelsea_

    #
    @LambertLover22 yes it was pink. He waved it around before throwing it back. But it came flying back again at him. Haha. Soo funny.3 minutes ago from Tweetie in reply to LambertLover22

  90. Thanks for the info. I knew they added the shows but couldn’t remember at what point. I’m a little surprised they didn’t add more shows for this tour because the concerts seem to be doing good business so far.

    I think with the economy being what it is, they probably didn’t want to take the chance in adding more shows.

  91. According to some tweets, the bra was thrown during Slow Ride and they said Allison looked creeped out like she wanted to kill someone. LOL.

  92. AHAHAHAHA!! I was waiting for someone to throw a bra!! Here’s a play by play:

    Hahaha brassierre being thrown at adam. He threw it back. Hahaha14 minutes ago from Tweetie

    @LambertLover22 yes it was pink. He waved it around before throwing it back. But it came flying back again at him. Haha. Soo funny.9 minutes ago from Tweetie in reply to LambertLover22

    @_SimplyChelsea_ oh he was totally into it. He waved it around before throwing it back8 minutes ago from Tweetie in reply to _SimplyChelsea_

    And then apparently after he threw it back into the audience, someone flung it right back at him! LOLOLOL!!!

  93. Funny: http://twitter.com/unntouchedd

    @LambertLover22 yes it was pink. He waved it around before throwing it back. But it came flying back again at him. Haha. Soo funny.3 minutes ago from Tweetie in reply to LambertLover22

    Umm…I really hope this doesn’t start a trend. I want to watch Adam dance, not retrieve pointless items on stage…

  94. I think we need equal opportunity lingerie throwing…someone should toss some underwear at Kris…otherwise he might feel left out!

  95. Kris getting lots of cheers.

    Regarding the BRA …

    Just twitter reports so may not be true — but twitter story is the bra was throw at Adam during Slow Ride and people are tweeting that Alison look angry/jealous/pissed well –not happy about it.

    Adam threw it back, but it was rethrewn back to him and Alison looked madder.
    .

  96. “Well, that makes up for the WLL blunder. How embarrassing! ”
    What did Rickey mean by this?

  97. Well I know that last night’s audience was a really mixed group with older folks and younger ones as well. I looked over my shoulder during Allison’s set and there was an elderly woman clapping along to Allison rocking out to Barracuda! I was surprised by the number of people over 60–and most of them did not bring kids or grandkids.

  98. If they were going to throw a bra, they could have at least done it at a better time! geez.

  99. Girlygirl, thats your calling. Youre going to the LA show, right? ha ha.

  100. The canadian tweets are so funny –0

    unntouchedd Omg adam snarled at me. Who needs sex Omg

  101. well, to equal it out, if adam gets a bra, shouldn’t Kris get thrown some boxers or male thongs? haha..

  102. My neighbor lady who is 65 thinks that Adam is just the sexiest beast she’s ever laid eyes on and told me today she wishes she could see him do his thing live. hehe

  103. Wow..just noticed, Adam’s twitter followers are over 90K now. That’s a pretty big increase since the tour started, right?

  104. mirai2009: Opens with led zepplin closes with David bowie I think and rocked the house amazing… Adam lambert nobody believes he is #2!!!!

  105. ‘Well, that makes up for the WLL blunder. How embarrassing! ‘ 

    Rickey didn’t have WLL on tonight’s cellcast. He missed it because his cell caster’s battery was running low.

  106. I have been reading this blog since I caught the Adam bug on the 4th week of AI. Thanks MJ for creating this AWESOME blog. I am anxiously waiting for the youtube videos from Canada. I am so exciteddd to go to the concert this Sunday in San Jose. I would like to know how the meet and greet works. Do I have to get there 5 hours in advance to see Adam to be in line? I heard only people who get passes do the meet and greet, is that true? Please help, going with my niece who is 13 and she wants to get a signature from Adam but it is MAINLY me who wants to meet him and get a pic with him.

  107. HIlarious tweet:

    King_Styles Apparently a fan threw their bra at Adam Lambert. When I go I totally slingshoting my boxers at Kris. NEGL

  108. Of course it will still be mixed, but I see a much younger crowd in bigger cities like LA, NY and San Fran.

    The WLL issue was that Rickey didn’t get it on the phone, so there was no sound at all.

  109. i cant wait to read everyones take on the concert in their cities…this is fantastic, i will be soo sad when its over!! thank you everyone!

    how great is adam?

  110. Adam seems to have alot of older fans who remember the original Elvis.
    Why would bigger cities have a younger crowd? Same types of fans show up everywhere.
    Poor Allison. I don’t blame her for being pissed.

  111. She shouldn’t be getting it, and she shouldn’t get rid of the guitar. She looks great with it, and she wants to continue and improve with it, so it’s good experience for her.
    Like kris unlike adam, allison can play the guitar,sing,and iterac with the audience witch makes for real artist to be great.”hwc” you think you can play the guitar and be able to sing and interac with the audience.She is 17 and to be able to do that at that age and be that good, that is awsom.

  112. Positive tweets for Alison, Matt and Anoop. Lot’s for Anoop!!

    I can’t find many tweets about Kris 2nite. Most the tweets were from Adam fans. The few that I’ve seen are negative.

    Here one Tweet thread:

    Finale. To all those who don’t like my opinions, it’s a free country. That’s how Kris won. http://twitpic.com/9regkYep.

    It’s terrible. Dead Beatles are rolling in their graves.
    6 minutes ago from TwitterFon

    Kris Allen sucks. I don’t know if i’ll even be able to stand him singing Hey Jude.
    11 minutes ago from TwitterFon

    Kris Allen on stage now. People are booing.
    20 minutes ago from TwitterFon

  113. haha.. those roll of negative tweets is from a big Adam fan who started to insult him before he even performed.

    it’s totally easy for me, when I’m at a concert to start fake tweets about people booing or hating on Adam, just to freak her out

  114. I heard someone threw a red bra to Adam! That is hilarious! I applaud the person who did it! xD So brave to do what millions of girls only dream of doing.

  115. Ew, couldn’t they have thrown the underwear some other time when poor Alli wasn’t sharing the stage?

  116. The booing story again? Are Adam fans trying to plant the idea to boo Kris in future shows?

    Don’t they know that Adam might get the backlash? If Adam fans boo Kris, the Kris fans can boo Adam the next night.

    This is so stupid and childish.

  117. Adam seems to have alot of older fans who remember the original Elvis.

    In my world, Adam fans are mostly in their teens, 20s and 30s, but online there do seem to be a lot of older women, at least on some sites. Methinks they’re just more aggressive and less shy about expressing themselves. :P

  118. Ew, couldn’t they have thrown the underwear some other time when poor Alli wasn’t sharing the stage?

    I would think WLL would be the best song to throw that up there. I wonder if Alli is pissed at Adam for picking it up and swinging it around.

  119. Adam is so awesome. I think he realizes the joy of his female fans. Singing, “woman,,,”. Is going to get the audience going. I bet it feels really great for him. Come on… love is love….

  120. I think this is my favorite twitter tonight:

    k8erichard: thinks that the Adam Lambert/Kris Allen name combo should not be Kradam….. it’s just weird…. instead i suggest Albert, a last name combo

  121. My last comment on this topic. I only do this because I hate scalpers but contrary to rumors and posts here, the Los Angeles show is not SOLD OUT.
    Just use MJs link and you can buy tickets. They may not be the greatest seats but they are available.

    Are people really booing Kris? Yuck.

  122. Adam is so awesome. I think he realizes the joy of his female fans. Singing, ‘woman,,,’ . Is going to get the audience going. I bet it feels really great for him. Come on’ ¦ love is love’ ¦.

    I think he gets a kick out of it. Adam is having a blast and I’m glad he’s getting love….. But Allison is a teenage girl and Slow Ride is their special song together and Adam’s focus got taken off Allison for…another woman’s bra. Eh. I think she would be pissed.

    ETA- I mean that the flow of the song was interrupted by a fan, not that Alli was jealous.

  123. Really great twitters tonight for the show …. nothing on Kris except for one who said he had an hilarious screamer….
    booooo

  124. I would think WLL would be the best song to throw that up there. I wonder if Alli is pissed at Adam for picking it up and swinging it around.

    For me it’s a respect issue. Adam has an entire solo set when his fans can do that stuff. Doing it during their duet is disrespectful to Alli (although she’s so chill I’m sure her expression meant more like “yucky!”)

  125. lol my friend was at the show near the stage and she didn’t hear any boos when Kris came out nor during his performances. I don’t know who’s starting the rumors.

    I hope someone has the video of the bra incident! It sounds epic.

  126. I don’t think that booing story is true. Someone said the same tweeted something similar from Tacoma, but when you watch the vids, you realised Kris had lots of screams throughout his set, even during NOBO. People just love to spark fan wars. I don’t believe that.

  127. LisaE
    Jul 9th, 2009 at 1:16 am
    Adam seems to have alot of older fans who remember the original Elvis.

    In my world, Adam fans are mostly in their teens, 20s and 30s, but online there do seem to be a lot of older women, at least on some sites. Methinks they’re just more aggressive and less shy about expressing themselves

    My 68 year old step-mom is crazy for Adam. She’s not aggressive and has no idea how to use the internet.

    “Methinks” ???? what the heck is that expression. LOL….

  128. undercooked Jul 9th, 2009 at 1:21 am

    Adam is so awesome. I think he realizes the joy of his female fans. Singing, ‘woman,,,’ . Is going to get the audience going. I bet it feels really great for him. Come on’ ¦ love is love’ ¦.

    I think he gets a kick out of it. Adam is having a blast and I’m glad he’s getting love’ ¦.. But Allison is a teenage girl and Slow Ride is their special song together and Adam’s focus got taken off Allison for’ ¦another woman’s bra. Eh. I think she would be pissed.

    You could be right. Alli is probably like “Back off skank! This is MY special Adam time!”

  129. I doubt people are booing Kris. Same thing happened last night, tweeters that said there was lots of booing were found to be from the UK and some obsessed Danny fan.

    Again, why assume Adam fans are doing it? Adam and Kris share tons of fans.

  130. Adam and Kris love and support each other. It seems so sad and ironic that *some* of their fans can’t support them both as well, at least to the point of being respectful. It will be a long summer if after every concert there’s a rumor of someone being booed.

    BORING.

  131. michaelsarver1 At the end of the show I was walking down the stairs as a fan screamed my name. I turned around, missed a step, and hurt my foot really bad.

  132. haha.. those roll of negative tweets is from a big Adam fan who started to insult him before he even performed.

    Wow…that’s really pathetic.

  133. When you duet with the glittery alien from the planet fierce, you take the good with the bad. It is what it is. If Allison is bent out of shape at a bra being hurled at the stage, she’s in for a long summer.

    I would be very surprised if she was doing anything but feigning “upset”.

  134. haha.. it’s so easy to just start a twitter and then every night change the name of the person that was booed and freak out all the fans.

    i hope they don’t try and throw bras at every show- didn’t they do that to archie last year?

  135. I would be very surprised if she was doing anything but feigning ‘upset’ .

    I hope she is feigning being upset, but she is a teenage girl and it’s got to be weird for her.

  136. If Allison is bent out of shape at a bra being hurled at the stage, she’s in for a long summer.

    Bwahahaha.

    Allison’s tough. I’m sure she can handle it.

  137. I hope that fan (MichaelSarver1) is going to be OK. It sucks to go to a concert and come home injured.

  138. AC: haha.. those roll of negative tweets is from a big Adam fan who started to insult him before he even performed.

    it’s totally easy for me, when I’m at a concert to start fake tweets about people booing or hating on Adam, just to freak her out

    Well I would be really pleased if these tweets were just a prank. But they are coming from many different people who don’t have any connections but all have profiles saying they are Canadians. Many, like the one that follows are from people who use the same twitter professionally.

    As far as I can tell most the Vancouver tweets came from big Adam fans.

    Actually the first negative Shannon Heath tweet about Kris was a few minutes after he started to sing Heartless. I can find any previous tweet she ever sent with Kris mentioned in it. I check the time before I posted it.

    Here’s another…

    @mverchere Sucks 2 be Kris Allen and follow Adam. People leaving in droves now Adam’s done. Maybe he’ll rock the NW better than liberal Van.

    @mverchere Hey, I’m there 2. All around me people are leaving in droves. Sucks 4 Kris 2 follow Adam.

    And there are quite a few more.

  139. If Adam’s fans want to pelt him with bras or even massive granny panties they should do it during his solo set. Why shouldn’t Allison be pissed about someone disrupting her duet.

    It probably threw off her performance and I’m pretty sure no artist is happy with that. Pretty easy for Idol to solve the whole issue by just announcing that anyone throwing stuff will be ejected.

    I’m glad those boo stories are just exaggerated.

  140. I hope she is feigning being upset, but she is a teenage girl and it’s got to be weird for her.

    I doubt it that it’s weird. She’s on stage with the guy who is like a flying Ferrari. She probably wants to rip her bra off and hurl it at him, too — ya know.

    Now, if the kid who won starts chucking plaid shirts at Adam, then we’ve got a story.

  141. Has the Vancouver radio interview been posted yet?? Long interview, over 10 minutes, and so cute.

  142. I don’t think it was a prank or they opened a new twitter account for that or anything, but I was looking at their twitters and it was just obvious they were big Adam fans who wanted to rile people up. and i believe it was before he even performed hey jude that she didn’t like it or whatever.

    anyways, i’m just saying it’s really easy through twitter to make it seem like something’s happening

  143. Q3,
    Is she the same person sending the tweets or there are different people?

  144. Aww, after the show pic. And a tiny bit of blurry Kradam goodness http://twitpic.com/9rg8h

    And blaming Adam fans for all the Tweets about booing? Last night the only one I saw was from a Gokey fan. And again, the only report I read from someone who went there, and was a Kris and Adam fan both, said that Adam was the one they heard being booed. By two kids. So even if one person was next to someone who was booing and Twittered it, doesn’t mean that it’s one entire fanbase. Or that it isn’t happening to other people (like Adam) just no one is Twittering it.

    Oh well, I can’t wait for the videos. Sounds like Kris put on a KILLER show and was very well received. And of course I really want to see the bra stuff for the lulz.

  145. It probably threw off her performance and I’m pretty sure no artist is happy with that.

    Performance? Come on, we are talkin’ about frickin’ FOGHAT here. It’s only one of the worst songs ever written, but it’s fun.

    The song is called Slow Ride and it’s not about a train trip. What are they supposed to throw? Bibles?

  146. Thanks HWC, that plaid shirt comment is requiring me to clean off my keyboard. Lesson–don’t drink and read comments at the same time.

  147. In my world, Adam fans are mostly in their teens, 20s and 30s, but online there do seem to be a lot of older women, at least on some sites. Methinks they’re just more aggressive and less shy about expressing themselves. :P

    I saw one poll of Adam fans recently — they were mostly women, but they were almost evenly split among: under 20, 20-29, 30-39, 40-49, 50-59, then slightly fewer fans 60-69, and only a few 70 and older.

  148. I love Twitter, then I hate Twitter. I think whoever said it was right. Twitter is the Devil.

  149. The song is called Slow Ride and it’s not about a train trip. What are they supposed to throw? Bibles?

    I suppose there’s the option to fling *nothing* onto the stage. And in this case a bra is probably as irrelevant as a bible, lol.

  150. iluvai:

    I wonder if you are going to the same show as my sisters(?) July 10th??? Anyway, have fun.

    Yep, thats the one. 2 days. Can’t wait. My seats are on the side but lower level and pretty close to the stage so hoping to get a few good pictures. Planning on going early and staying late as long as there is a chance of meeting any of them. Gotta do it for the kids you know. OK I’m doing it for me too. I’m a little old to be playing the fantard but I can’t help it. Kradam just brings it out in me. :tongue1_tb:

  151. hwc Jul 9th, 2009 at 1:37 am

    It probably threw off her performance and I’m pretty sure no artist is happy with that.

    Performance? Come on, we are talkin’ about frickin’ FOGHAT here. It’s only one of the worst songs ever written, but it’s fun.

    The song is called Slow Ride and it’s not about a train trip. What are they supposed to throw? Bibles?

    LOL! Throw bibles! Great one hwc! I can count on you to put things in perspective!

  152. If Adam’s fans want to pelt him with bras or even massive granny panties they should do it during his solo set. Why shouldn’t Allison be pissed about someone disrupting her duet.

    It probably threw off her performance and I’m pretty sure no artist is happy with that. Pretty easy for Idol to solve the whole issue by just announcing that anyone throwing stuff will be ejected.

    Nobody died or was injured in this bra throwing incident. The worst thing that could have happened was that a Foghat song was interrupted for a few seconds. I’m sure the world will recover.

  153. Nobody died or was injured in this bra throwing incident. The worst thing that could have happened was that a Foghat song was interrupted for a few seconds. I’m sure the world will recover.

    I think Allison may be been pissed, but I don’t think it is a big deal. It seems like Adam and Allison are getting the full rock star experience.

  154. No one said anyone died. Just that it was tacky and disrespectful to the other idol involved. Huh, a trend.

  155. I didn’t imply the world had ended. Only that Allison had a right to be pissed.
    Whether the song was gold or crap doesn’t really enter into it. Fans should save the bras, thongs, boxers, briefs, and granny panties for Adam’s set.

  156. Maybe Allison was pissed Adam threw the bra back ! She wanted it ! :laugh_tb: I’m sure Allison’s seen a bra before.come on people ,lighten up :devil_tb:

  157. hwc:

    I doubt it that it’s weird. She’s on stage with the guy who is like a flying Ferrari. She probably wants to rip her bra off and hurl it at him, too ‘” ya know.

    :lol_tb: :clap_tb: :snake_ee:

  158. Q3,
    Is she the same person sending the tweets or there are different people?

    First of all, if there was any booing, it had to be very limited.

    Regarding the tweets: I was trying to find some Tweets about Kris’ performance to know how he was doing and there was very little chatter. All I hit were negative comments. I hit six different people on twitter reporting the same thing — people booing during NoBo and ANS. These people were not booing just reporting it and a few called it rude.

    They are all Adam fans, all adults, and have twitter profiles saying they live in Vancouver. They do not appear to be connected. And none of them posted negative comments about Kris before he came on stage — at least in the past 24 hours.

    Also, there are multiple reports of people leaving after Adam’s performance.

    It only took me about 10 minutes to figure out that last night was a prank — done by one person. I am not so sure about tonight. It is more complicated.

    ONE REALLY IMPORTANT POINT: All the people tweeting about the Vancouver show appear to be Adam fans. Most made positive comments about other performances. I couldn’t find any Canadian Kris fans who were the show and tweeting. But the report I’ve read say this was a really Adam-centric crowd.

  159. ONE REALLY IMPORTANT POINT: All the people tweeting about the Vancouver show appear to be Adam fans. Most made positive comments about other performances. I couldn’t find any Canadian Kris fans who were the show and tweeting. But the report I’ve read say this was a really Adam-centric crowd.

    I think that is important to keep in mind. I’m sure when the AI tour moves to states like Arkansas and Texas, Kris will be the person getting the most love. His style of music could be more popular there. I do think it is a regional thing.

    ETA: Also, if Kris was booed, I’m sure it was only a handful of people. And it is possible Adam and Danny got booed as well and no one tweeted it. I just can’t see anyone disliking Kris to the point of booing him.

  160. The whole bra throwing incident if true is just in bad taste all the way around. I remember hearing DC talking about having panties thrown at him. He laughed it off but really its so, I don’t know….disgusting for a lack of a better word. And so disrespectful to his singing partner who happend to be Allison.

    I hope this doesn’t happen at my concert. I’m there to watch him perform, do his little moves, watch Adam and Allison interact which is always so entertaining. I didn’t pay good money to watch Adam play with someone elses underwear. Ewwwww

    I dare that person to throw the bra at him when they are out signing autographs. Bet they wouldn’t due to sheer humiliation. Plus they might be escorted away, especially if it hit his very controlling assistant thats with him. I guess they could pull up their shirt and have him sign the bra. I wonder if he would. I remember him saying something like I will sign anything you want me to when the fans were told they couldn’t take pictures with him.

  161. “I doubt people are booing Kris. Same thing happened last night, tweeters that said there was lots of booing were found to be from the UK and some obsessed Danny fan.

    Again, why assume Adam fans are doing it? Adam and Kris share tons of fans.”

    I agree. Adam and Kris share similar fans, just look at the online communities. There’s probably over 100,000 Kradam fans on ONTD alone. I read over at the Idolforums that one person kept spamming and saying how Kris was booed by Adam fans and they found out that it was a Danny fan who was not even in the concert spreading that rumor. So we should not take these booing rumors too seriously as it is obviously an attempt by some boring people trying to create fanwars.

  162. I listened on the Rickey cast and Kris got a lot of screams and cheers. I didn’t hear anything resembling booing. Once again, I guess the youtubes will tell the story.

    It is obvious, however, that if the rumors keep getting planted, and the fan boards get defensive and fired up, booing WILL happen. Backlash will then happen.

    Nothing good can come from this.

    Q3 wrote:
    “It only took me about 10 minutes to figure out that last night was a prank ‘” done by one person. I am not so sure about tonight. It is more complicated. ”

    That makes my point for me. Last night was planting the rumor. Today was spreading it. If the booing did happen tonight, it is because seeds were planted last night, IMO.

  163. I was listening to Rickey cellcast and heard a LOT of cheering for Kris…. i think we could all discard the few disrespectful individual trying to stir shit!

  164. To add: From what I have read it sounds like it was another great concert. Looking forward to the videos but I don’t think I will be able to watch them until tomorrow evening. :frown_tb:

  165. No one said anyone died. Just that it was tacky and disrespectful to the other idol involved. Huh, a trend.

    Well she doesn’t have to sing a duet with him or ever share the stage with him if she doesn’t want to. We’ll see what happens.

  166. guys..will u just wait till u see the slow ride video before assuming anything

  167. When you duet with the glittery alien from the planet fierce, you take the good with the bad. It is what it is. If Allison is bent out of shape at a bra being hurled at the stage, she’s in for a long summer.

    Susan M. – You can hang with hubby & Me in Ontario – I’ll be there EARLY!

    PS Regarding Adam’s “Older” Fans – those of us who grew up with music of the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s DONT like or need our “ROCK STARS” tame!!!!! GO ADAM! We’ll be there!

  168. It’s too bad some people are determined to stoke fanwars by spreading unsubstantiated rumors of booing or people walking out. It does their favorite artist (whether it’s Adam, as I suspect is mainly the case), Danny or anyone else) no good, because it just raises the possibility of a backlash against that person. Meanwhile, it appears to be garnering Kris more support (at least on twitter) from people who aren’t necessarily his fans, but who find the idea of booing anyone disrespectful and/or rude.

    Meanwhile, I doubt Allison is too upset about a bra flying onto the stage during the Slow Ride duet. She’ll probably tease Adam about it.

    The timing could have been better, though. If someone feels they have to throw lingerie at Adam, do it uring one his solo numbers, not while Allison’s up there with him.

  169. Why is Allison the problem and not the stupid fans who pull this crap?

  170. The tweets that I were looking at were 2 that Q3 mentioned and they are at least somewhat connected since one responded to the other. the 3rd was one who reported that there was booing and had a link to one of their twitters. so basically take it with a grain of salt and if there was booing, it was probably from them.

    you know what’s going to happen eventually is that other fans will start getting mad and say other people were booed even if they weren’t. twitter is just really easy to mess with people

  171. I agree. Adam and Kris share similar fans, just look at the online communities. There’s probably over 100,000 Kradam fans on ONTD alone.

    They’re probably all basically Adam fans who like Kris too. Every single Kris fan I’ve met hates Adam with a passion.

  172. Hey guys! I just finished cropping my photos from tonight’s show and emailed a bunch to mj (4 separate emails!). I will also be sending her a full recap of the show, so stay tuned for that. I haven’t read any of the comments except a couple on the last page (pg.5, currently), but I will say this:

    I don’t think it was a sell-out, but it was pretty darn close. All ten of them received really good response. Loudest responses overall were for the top 4; out of the bottom 6, Matt and Anoop had the loudest cheers. Out of the top 4, Adam got the loudest response, but IMO the response for Kris was really close to being the same. I think Allison got more cheers than Danny, but the crowd totally loved him too. All in all, it was a giant Love-Fest. And the sound was amazing.

    Okay, have to go type up my recap now. Stay tuned!

  173. I bet Adam and Allison both laughed after the show ended at the bra incident. I don’t think Allison is the kind to get pissed off by something like that. The timing was bad but it was not in poor taste. Maybe the person who threw the bra was in support of both Adam and Allison? Who knows.

  174. Riiight. Allison should leave so people can throw their undies at Adam w/o the inconvenience of another person on stage

    Wow, Adam is having a tough day with some of the ladies. First the twat twitter backlash and now the bra. If he never experienced a woman’s scorn, in the “hell have no fury” kind of way, I am sure he will be by the end of the tour. LOL!

  175. Q3- by the way, i just wanted to add in what I saw/read and not to dispute what you said or anything =) so i hope you don’t get the wrong idea when i try and add stuff

    I’m thinking Allison was just surprised to see it happen because she was problem really into the performance and got distracted?

  176. Hey guys! I just finished cropping my photos from tonight’s show and emailed a bunch to mj (4 separate emails!). I will also be sending her a full recap of the show, so stay tuned for that. I haven’t read any of the comments except a couple on the last page (pg.5, currently), but I will say this:

    I don’t think it was a sell-out, but it was pretty darn close. All ten of them received really good response. Loudest responses overall were for the top 4; out of the bottom 6, Matt and Anoop had the loudest cheers. Out of the top 4, Adam got the loudest response, but IMO the response for Kris was really close to being the same. I think Allison got more cheers than Danny, but the crowd totally loved him too. All in all, it was a giant Love-Fest. And the sound was amazing.

    tell us about the bra incident..

    yay for kradison

  177. I can’t help shrugging at stories of fans behaving inappropriately, whether it’s booing or throwing bras when Alli is on stage.
    There is always a small proportion of fans who create chaos, and there will be more stories during the summer.
    At the end of the day, on a whole, boos or not, Kris received loud cheers, and I bet that the idols are still laughing at the bra thrown at Adam.

  178. The bra incident, I am waiting for the youtube videos anxiously! I am looking for them, hopefully someone will find one soooon.

  179. My 68 year old step-mom is crazy for Adam. She’s not aggressive and has no idea how to use the internet.

    ‘Methinks’  ???? what the heck is that expression. LOL’ ¦.

    I was not saying that ALL older Adam fans are aggressive internet users, just that there are a number of them online and they are vocal. I’ll be honest, they scare me a little. If one of them didn’t throw that bra tonight, I’d be shocked.

    Methinks (get over it) the booing of Kris might have been isolated to the Twitterers themselves (or their imaginations). First, it doesn’t make sense. Kris is always one of the best of the night and none of the other idols were supposedly booed. Second, I’ve always found Canadians to be incredibly nice people. :P

  180. jpfan
    I hope nobody pays anywhere that amount for a ticket. Even completely ‘sold out’  Idol concerts will magically have tickets that show up the day of the concert. Usually from ticket brokers who couldn’t find people crazy enough to pay that amount.

    I checked TicketMaster a few times this afternoon (while I was supposed to be working!). There were several front-row seats available at regular price ($78.50 CAD tax services charges etc.).

  181. Re: the hot-pink bra – I totally just missed getting a photo of this, so bummed. Some tossed the bra at Adam; I can’t remember if it landed on the floor & he picked it up or if he caught it in mid-air, but he twirled it around his head like a lariat about 5-6 times, then tossed it back into the crowd. I don’t think he stopped singing. Couldn’t really read his facial expression.

    The bra was not thrown back to Adam a second time. I couldn’t see Allison’s face as she was facing the other direction, but she turned around again right away and she was smiling. I doubt she was pissed; why would she be??

  182. Wow, Adam is having a tough day with some of the ladies. First the twat twitter backlash and now the bra. If he never experienced a woman’s scorn, in the ‘hell have no fury’  kind of way, I am sure he will be the end of the tour. LOL!

    Well my Mother was a Brit and she and my Brit relatives always said Americans have no sense of humor for the ridiculous things.

    Although sometimes used as a reference to the female genitalia, the word twat is more often used in various other ways:

    * As a derogatory insult, a pejorative – ‘you twat!’
    * A fool, synonymous with the word twit – ‘You are a real twat and a half’ (often used in the UK)

  183. ‘I doubt people are booing Kris. Same thing happened last night, tweeters that said there was lots of booing were found to be from the UK and some obsessed Danny fan.

    Again, why assume Adam fans are doing it? Adam and Kris share tons of fans.’ 

    It’s too bad some people are determined to stoke fanwars by spreading unsubstantiated rumors of booing or people walking out. It does their favorite artist (whether it’s Adam, as I suspect is mainly the case), Danny or anyone else) no good, because it just raises the possibility of a backlash against that person.

    The only documented booing/name calling (on video) at any of the first three concerts was directed to Adam. And was really isolated. I will remain skeptical about any reports until I see it myself.

    I also agree that fanwars are total stupid and twitter pranks are ridiculous. I tracked down the UK twitters last night in a few minutes. And Adam Lambert fans on IDF figured out who originated the Tacoma booing rumor and proved it false.

    Tonights’ reports are different — they are not from one person and may be real reports of isolated behavior. However, the important thing is that the idea of booing anyone — particurly Kris — has been condemned by all kinds of people including Adam fans. Just look at all the twitter posts comparing it to “killing puppies”.

    JMHO Karadam is alive and well.

  184. The timing could have been better, though. If someone feels they have to throw lingerie at Adam, do it uring one his solo numbers, not while Allison’s up there with him.

    She threw it during his set. If someone threw a bra at Anoop with a note attached saying “Give This To Adam” I’d agree that’s overstepping.

    A girl took off her shirt and charged at Adam during his Homecoming celebration so things like this happen around him. Nobody’s going to force Allison to sing with Adam if she’s uncomfortable with these little demonstrations.

  185. Just came back from the Vancouver show. It was great, Vancouver showed all idols much love, I had a floor seat row 16 so it’s pretty close to the stage.

    First off, yes there was a red bra thrown to the stage (obviously to Adam) when he was singing Slow Ride with Allison, he was startled by the move for a millisecond, then he picked it up, swaying it twice and threw it back to the audience.

    I did not notice Allison’ reaction, but the song was by no means interrupted.

    Second, I did NOT see any mass exodus of people during Kris set, When he was singing NB yes I noticed some people left (mainly in the very far end) but only a few, the Vancouver venue seats more than 12,000 and I would say it’s not noticeable at all.

    Third, Danny’s so called “sermon” or “preaching” lasted for only 30-40 seconds at most, I think he did read the internet, may be he felt he need to shorten the “message” (compared to what he said at the the Portland concert). What I want to say is it did not feel like he was “preaching”, he basically said he lost his wife, he tried out AI and found hope and wished people would rise from adversity and follow their dreams, and that was very much tied in to the message of the song he’s going to sing, which is “My Wish”. I don’t like people preach especially in concerts and I did not feel uncomfortable during his short little “speech”. When he was singing the song, a woman sitting one row in front & 3 seats to my right started crying. And based on what I read from this blog and tweets, this seems to happen quite often, so can I credit that to Danny’s singing that he does have a way of connecting to people with certain songs?

    Based on my observation, the Vancouver audience were mainly coming to see Adam, no doubt he got the biggest applause, etc. The audience was just so excited to see him. Kris also got a huge reception here. The other idols were all very well received. From where I sat /stood, I heard no boos to any idols, it was all cheering, fangirl screaming and applauses.

    Michael started the show, I don’t know if it’s him or the sound system, he voice was pretty over-powered by the music especially first song. There is a reason why he is the tenth place finisher. Megan shounded pretty good, Scott sounded better than I thought. Lil also sounded good, she does have the potential of being a good R&B singer. Anoop had a great voice, he sang the 3 songs very well. He also had a stage presence again better than I thought. People loved Matt, he got a huge applause after the first song, he did good for the rest 2 songs. People loved the group song Begging, there was some choreographed moves that went pretty well with the singing.

    It’s kinda late and I will continue with the rest tomorrow.

  186. The bra incident is hilarious! I am sure Allison is going to tease him, all IDOLS will and Adam will laugh about it. Looking for the videos, hopefully someone will find them because all of you are pros are finding information so FASSST. Thank you for that, you make my life easy or I need help, I am glue to this blog all day for information about ADAM. I spend too many hours reading this blog!

  187. Throwing underwear at artists is tacky and disrespectful. I don’t blame Allison if she was upset.

  188. ok… the video link that Q3 posted way up thread…. pushed me off the fence about whether to go or not. my GAWD. i dont want to regret missing seeing adam and kris (among others) at the start of their careers. and adam is just SMOKIN HOT. sweet baby jesus.

    i’d have to travel to tulsa so im only going to go if i can get last minute floor seats, but i have secured a partner in crime who has promised to bail me out of jail when i rush the stage. i have a question for you pros though – when do those last minute seats usually open up? day before? day of? last week? i need to know when i really need to start the vigilant stalking of ticketmaster.

  189. RE: Flying bra sighting

    Thought Canada would be more laid back, and prim and proper.
    Hah, do they not have RollingStone published there ?

    If well dressed and seemingly proper matrons throw underwear at the Il Divo
    , considering the songs of Il Divo are quite neutered , I think -It’s raining ahem- will be the theme of the succeeding concerts for Adam’s set .

    This is funny. Adam what have you unleashed in women the world over that made them disregard your own outright pronouncements !

  190. AC: Q3- by the way, i just wanted to add in what I saw/read and not to dispute what you said or anything =) so i hope you don’t get the wrong idea when i try and add stuff

    NP and I understood what you meant. And I’d be thrilled if/when this turns out to be nothing.

    I do know one thing for sure, it is not a “plot” by evil Lambert fans to start a fanwar. LOL

    And I don’t think bra-gate is an attempt to start a war between Adam and Alison fans either!!

  191. Huh….we haven’t seen any video of the bra incident and here we are making all the assumptions about Allison’s reaction. I guess we just love jumping into conclusions.

  192. The timing could have been better, though. If someone feels they have to throw lingerie at Adam, do it uring one his solo numbers, not while Allison’s up there with him.

    She threw it during his set. If someone threw a bra at Anoop with a note attached saying ‘Give This To Adam’  I’d agree that’s overstepping.

    A girl took off her shirt and charged at Adam during his Homecoming celebration so things like this happen around him. Nobody’s going to force Allison to sing with Adam if she’s uncomfortable with these little demonstrations.

    Natasha, just because these things happen doesn’t mean they should–it’s a bit rude to throw things at performers while they’re singing, IMO. I highly doubt Allison was upset–but it’s perfectly possible to think that people shouldn’t toss underwear at Adam while he’s onstage (esp. with someone else) without thinking that Allison must be horrified at such demonstrations.

    Not a big deal. If underwear got thrown at Adam constantly, then I’d be annoyed.

  193. twinkle
    Jul 9th, 2009 at 2:37 am
    ok’ ¦ the video link that Q3 posted way up thread’ ¦. pushed me off the fence about whether to go or not. my GAWD. i dont want to regret missing seeing adam and kris (among others) at the start of their careers. and adam is just SMOKIN HOT. sweet baby jesus.

    The credit goes to however shot that video. But it needs to have a rating.

    It seems that Adam turned up the heat from Portland to Tacoma. What will he be like when he get to Memphis — and performs in the shadow of Elvis’ Grassland and Sun Studios. I may not be ready for this!!!

  194. from someone at tour (allison’s reaction):

    i dont think she was singing at the time, so she may have laughed, but i defs saw her smiling big time

  195. Throwing bras and other garments is very common in concerts. Idols are used to this, and I am sure Adam will adapt rapidly. I don ´t see what ´s the big deal. Only one bra? That ´s the big deal. LOL.

  196. Hi, I am a long time lurker, first time poster. :-) I was at the Vancouver show tonight and it was fabulous beyond expectation! I agree that Adam got the loudest cheers of the night. Anyway, I wanted to comment on the bra incident, LOL. Someone threw the bra on stage and it landed near Allison’s feet. Allison went over to it and kicked it towards Adam. Adam then swooped down to scoop it up, let go a w00t! and swung it around in the air stripper style before launching it back into the crowd. It was hilarious! Allison took it all in good humour, as far as I could see from my vantage point! The girl is fun loving and improvisational and no doubt had a blast.

  197. Lots of reports from people coming back from the concert on ontd_ai – all answer the question about booing and say they didn’t hear any.

  198. Just came back from the Vancouver show. It was great, Vancouver showed all idols much love, I had a floor seat row 16 so it’s pretty close to the stage.

    I was nearby you in row 5. We loved everybody in my section, except for one person.

    First off, yes there was a red bra thrown to the stage (obviously to Adam) when he was singing Slow Ride with Allison, he was startled by the move for a millisecond, then he picked it up, swaying it twice and threw it back to the audience.

    Yep. Definitely a red bra. I was looking at Allison when it was thrown so I didn’t see it thrown on stage. I looked over and saw that Adam had a quirky smile on his face like he was about to start laughing and I was puzzled as to what it was about until I saw the bra lying there on the stage. So, I’d say he was amused. He picked it up and twirled it around and tossed it back to the thrower (I saw her talking later and she was quite proud of herself). By that time, Allison had turned around so I didn’t see what her expression was.

    I think that people should refrain from throwing stuff on stage because it sets a bad precedent. And throwing underwear was lame in the 70s. By now, it’s beyond lame. IMO.

    Second, I did NOT see any mass exodus of people during Kris set, When he was singing NB

    I didn’t see anybody leave, but I was facing the stage and my area was having a good time. There was some people singing along.

    Third, Danny’s so called ‘sermon’  or ‘preaching’  lasted for only 30-40

    Again, I agree. It was really short especially compared to the stories I’d heard about Portland and Seattle.

    I heard no booing of Kris or anybody. What I heard when his name appeared on the screen was a deafening cheer that caused a lot of people to stuff their fingers in their ears.

    Adam got the biggest cheers of the night, but Kris was not far behind.

  199. Hi, I am a long time lurker, first time poster. :-) I was at the Vancouver show tonight and it was fabulous beyond expectation! I agree that Adam got the loudest cheers of the night. Anyway, I wanted to comment on the bra incident, LOL. Someone threw the bra on stage and it landed near Allison’s feet. Allison went over to it and kicked it towards Adam. Adam then swooped down to scoop it up, let go a w00t! and swung it around in the air stripper style before launching it back into the crowd. It was hilarious! Allison took it all in good humour, as far as I could see from my vantage point! The girl is fun loving and improvisational and no doubt had a blast.

    awesome..how were the sets?

  200. the picture from the review makes Kris look hecka short, especially next to Adam who has his hand up. hehe

  201. I agree. Adam and Kris share similar fans, just look at the online communities. There’s probably over 100,000 Kradam fans on ONTD alone.

    They’re probably all basically Adam fans who like Kris too. Every single Kris fan I’ve met hates Adam with a passion.

    Well this hasn’t been my personal observation. I think there are some Kris fans who can also be Adam fans. Maybe they don’t like him as much, but they like him. And my other observation is that both fanbases have their share of nutjobs, so either fanbase pointing a finger at just the other and denying it goes on with their “side,” just doesn’t make sense to me. I mean, I know they exist in my fanbasea and heck, I admit to being too defensive about my fave at times. It happens. So pointing fingers at ONE fanbase for being the evil ONE, just denies that of course, crazies and jerks exist in every fandom. And even non-jerks/crazies can have their off days or hot buttons that make them crankier than usual.

    . Out of the top 4, Adam got the loudest response, but IMO the response for Kris was really close to being the same.

    This is totally what I heard, even through the crappy cellcast. That Kris was getting a lot of love as well, and that he sounded GOOD! so I can’t wait for the videos. I hope we get Bright Lights this time. I don’t think one came out of Tacoma.

  202. I think if there would have been any time that it would be okay for Danny to have a “sermon”, I would say it would be tonight since it would have been a few hours until the 1 year anniversary of his wife’s death. I’m glad he has the day off so I’m thinking that they’re all going to be there for him today.

    and i just wanted to add: i hope that bra is clean

  203. I think there are some Kris fans who can also be Adam fans. Maybe they don’t like him as much, but they like him. And my other observation is that both fanbases have their share of nutjobs, so either fanbase pointing a finger at just the other and denying it goes on with their ‘side,’  just doesn’t make sense to me. I mean, I know they exist in my fanbasea and heck, I admit to being too defensive about my fave at times.

    I agree, I knew a few Kris fan who are Adam fans. And many Adam fans who are Kradam fans, just prefer Adam.

    To date all the tweets about booing have either been kids pranks or a couple of crazy fans trying to start a Kris-Adam fan war. But as far as I can tell, none of this originated from Kris or Adam fans.

    Even the bra story even got embellished on twitter with the silliness about Alison being mad/jealous.

  204. Regarding the underwear throwing incident, I admire Adam’s talent, but can someone explain to me why females are sexually attracted to a flamboyantly effeminate gay guy. (And please note that “flamboyant” and “effeminate” are words Adam has used to describe himself.) Is it a variation of the “hag” phenomenon where some females like to hang around gay guys because they feel safe that nothing sexual could actually happen?

    This is not intended as a criticism of Adam. I’m just trying to understand. I know that as a straight guy, I would not be attracted to a macho, masculine-acting, gay female.

  205. garlandk77: I can’t speak for all females, but I find Adam completely sexually attractive and I don’t even really know why. What’s weird is I think he looks hot with the make-up especially guyliner, the “flamboyance” etc. I don’t find him very effeminate though – to me, he is pretty androgynous – also having very many masculine characteristics. I have tried to figure this out – I think it’s maybe a few things including his confidence, and the sexy moves (who didn’t love Elvis and his pelvis?), I think he’s very handsome, and most of all, the things he can do with his voice thrill me (I also like his facial expressions and body language while singing). It matters not one bit to me that he is gay – “sexy is sexy” and I like to look at him and listen to him

  206. LisaE Regarding Adam’s ‘Older’  Fans – those of us who grew up with music of the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s DONT like or need our ‘ROCK STARS’  tame!!!!! GO ADAM! We’ll be there!

    Exactly! I think the youngsters forget just how old rock & roll really is! Half of Adam’s set is 30 years old. Those grey-haired grannies were in their 20’s and rocking out to Whole Lotta Love, folks! You don’t lose your will to rock just because your hair turns grey. :-)

    adamland: Well my Mother was a Brit and she and my Brit relatives always said Americans have no sense of humor for the ridiculous things.

    * As a derogatory insult, a pejorative – ‘you twat!’
    * A fool, synonymous with the word twit – ‘You are a real twat and a half’ (often used in the UK)

    Didn’t Adam do “Hair” in the UK? Betcha that’s where he picked it up. I have a Scottish friend who uses that word often.

    Vada: The booing story again? Are Adam fans trying to plant the idea to boo Kris in future shows?

    This is so stupid and childish.

    I can’t help but think that if Adam or Kris (or any of the idols) would be so unhappy, maybe even embarrassed, to find out that their fans were being ugly towards the Idols that they don’t like.

    luba101: Like kris unlike adam, allison can play the guitar,sing,and iterac with the audience witch makes for real artist to be great.

    Well, unfortunately, unlike Kris, she’s not that good at the guitar yet. I adore Allison, and I think she’s got great potential. However, she barely touches the guitar strapped around her neck for most of the song, and it just seems to weigh her down. She only plays what seem to be basic chords during the chorus, and she has to look down for what seems like every chord change. She doesn’t seem at all comfortable with her playing, and I don’t think it’s doing her performance of the song any favors. If this was her idea, I wish her well, and I hope, over the next couple of months, that it begins to look as effortless as the rest of her performance does. If not her idea, well, maybe they should rethink it and free her from the guitar.

  207. Regarding the underwear throwing incident, I admire Adam’s talent, but can someone explain to me why females are sexually attracted to a flamboyantly effeminate gay guy.

    It’s quite easy for me. First off I find Adam to be mad talented, I find talent to be attractive. Secondly, I think he has charisma and sex appeal. Neither charisma nor sex appeal necessarily have to do with a person’s looks or sexual orientation. I find people that aren’t conventionally attractive, like say Alan Rickman, attractive all the time. Because he’s talented (a good actor in his case) and he just has presence when he’s doing his performances that I find engaging and interesting. His sexual preference whatever it is (in his case it is hetrosexual) doesn’t enter into it. Not like I’m ever going to have sex IRL with him, or any celebrity, regardless of their sexual orientation, so why should I care?

    Also, for me (for you) Adam is able to convey sexuality as a whole in his performances, especially his live ones. So that I buy into that sexuality/attraction. As he’s said, “sexy is sexy,” regarding women, even if he personally doesn’t want to have sex with them, he can recognize it and admire it. It’s same for women with him. Obviously that doesn’t work for everyone, but than that’s true of anything.

    There’s other stuff I could go into, but this post is already too long and boring as it is.

  208. Actually if I remember correctly after the red bra there was another “thing” being thrown to the stage and landed on stage, but since it was “deliberately” ignored by both Adam & Allison and neither of them picked it up so I did not recognize what that “thing” was, could be a piece of clothing(?) may be some one sitting/standing close to the stage could confirm??

  209. English is not my native language but I hope I get my meaning across…

    garlandk77: I think Adam has himself said “sexy is sexy”. To me, whenever a person is so clerly comfortable in his own skin, that is sexy. I don’t actually want to “get it on” with Adam, but watching and listening to him makes ME feel sexy. And as a heterosexual woman, I have to say that there are women that I find sexy as well. Again, it has to do with their confidence and the way they carry themselves.

  210. Regarding the underwear throwing incident, I admire Adam’s talent, but can someone explain to me why females are sexually attracted to a flamboyantly effeminate gay guy. (And please note that ‘flamboyant’  and ‘effeminate’  are words Adam has used to describe himself.) Is it a variation of the ‘hag’  phenomenon where some females like to hang around gay guys because they feel safe that nothing sexual could actually happen?

    This is not intended as a criticism of Adam. I’m just trying to understand. I know that as a straight guy, I would not be attracted to a macho, masculine-acting, gay female.

    The underwear throwing is a way to get attention — and someone else will need to explain that because I can’t.

    Regarding Adam’s sex appeal to women, I can only speak for myself. Generally, I appreciate an attactive gay man but don’t usually find gay men sexy. Adam, on the other hand, is this strange combination that I find enticing. And there is nothing about “safety because he’s gay” involved.

    He clearly is at ease with being sexual — not in the androgenous David Bowie cold way — but in a very open, unfiltered way, more like Elvis or Jim Morrison. Most man are not this open about being sexy. On top of that, he communicates his sexuality in very complex ways — he moves fluidly from being masculine (WLL) to flamboyant and flashy (Zodiac Club performances) and to “slinky” (Let’s Dance) while still being the same person. And he does all of this with clear planning and forethought but also with honesty and vulnerability.

    When you add the fact that he is caring, romantic, intelligent, personable, quick-witted, an amazing vocalist and dancer, knows fashion, love to shop, seems to be fun to hang out with and looks great, it’s a devastating package.

    Plus, you know that when he sings he hits a few secret frequencies that only women can hear!! LOL

  211. Actually if I remember correctly after the red bra there was another ‘thing’  being thrown to the stage and landed on stage, but since it was ‘deliberately’  ignored by both Adam & Allison and neither of them picked it up so I did not recognize what that ‘thing’  was, could be a piece of clothing(?) may be some one sitting/standing close to the stage could confirm??

    The reports that I have seen are the the same bra was thrown back on stage and ignored.

  212. I find Adam attractive because 1. Hes gorgeous, (tall, pretty features) 2. Hes talented 3. Intelligent.

  213. Q3: I hadn’t thought about that! Maybe there are “secret frequencies” in addition to all the rest of his “goodies” lol

  214. This is not intended as a criticism of Adam. I’m just trying to understand. I know that as a straight guy, I would not be attracted to a macho, masculine-acting, gay female.

    I understand what you are saying, and I don’t get it either. I am a fan of Adam’s talent, but I am not sexually attracted to him. I do think he’s a very handsome guy, but again, I’m not sexually attracted.

    It seems to me that people always seem to be sexually attracted to whomever their favorite is. I am not that way. Adam was my pick for the win, and Danny was my pick for runnerup. I do think Adam is cute. I actually think Danny is a rather cute guy, too, but I couldn’t say I’m sexually attracted to either.

    Now, Matt, that’s another story. lol.

  215. Plus, you know that when he sings he hits a few secret frequencies that only women can hear!! LOL

    I love this, Q3 :-)

  216. garlandk77
    I admire Adam’s talent, but can someone explain to me why females are sexually attracted to a flamboyantly effeminate gay guy. (And please note that ‘flamboyant’  and ‘effeminate’  are words Adam has used to describe himself.) Is it a variation of the ‘hag’  phenomenon where some females like to hang around gay guys because they feel safe that nothing sexual could actually happen?

    I have to agree with didilynn, as I don’t think Adam’s stage persona is effeminate, but more androgynous. He’s following in the footsteps of very sexual, androgynous rockers of the past who are/were straight, gay, or somewhere in between.

    As far as being attracted to him because he’s safe… oh, hell no. One of the attractions to Adam is that he doesn’t seem safe at all when he’s on that stage. He’s all fire, and liquid, and heavy breathing, and you feel like it doesn’t matter what he prefers when he goes home…. when he’s up there, anyone is fair game.

    And, for some, maybe there’s the challenge aspect. Maybe some women want to believe they could be the magic one to make him reconsider. From what I’ve seen, many men feel similarly about lesbians they find attractive.

    Lastly, at least for me, people are sexy for a whole host of reasons, many of which aren’t limited to gender or sexual preference. I’ve had crushes on both men and women, whether they were gay, straight, or somewhere in between. I think in today’s society, that’s easier for women, but I’ve known straight men who’ve had man crushes and aren’t afraid to admit them, so things are getting better!

    Basically, sexy is sexy… just everyone has their own ideas and feelings about what that is. Gotta love it. :devil_tb:

  217. Adam is tall, dark and handsome. Plus he just oozes sexuality. I don’t think he is very feminine. I just think he is a bit flamboyant. But isn’t part of the fun.

  218. I admire Adam’s talent, but can someone explain to me why females are sexually attracted to a flamboyantly effeminate gay guy.

    Well I guess I can’t answer your question directly since I’m not ‘sexually attracted’ to him but rather find him sexy and attractive. I agree with Adam when he said sexy is sexy. It doesn’t matter what your sexual preference is. I find him sexy. I haven’t met him in person yet but I have read that those who have said you become instantly drawn to him. Again it has nothing to do with sexual preference but instead sexual presence. Gay or straight it doesn’t matter. That boy is sexy PERIOD!!!

  219. LOL, Allison kicked the bra to Adam so he could deal with it. ha ha. Then something else gets thrown, but Adam just kicks it away with a smile.

  220. adamland: just remove the . (period) at the end of the link and it will work

  221. It’s pretty common that some women fantasize about turning an attractive gay man “straight.” A pretty frustrating past-time, if you ask me. Isn’t there enough frustration in one’s life as it is? LOL!

  222. I admire Adam’s talent, but can someone explain to me why females are sexually attracted to a flamboyantly effeminate gay guy. (And please note that ‘flamboyant’  and ‘effeminate’  are words Adam has used to describe himself.) Is it a variation of the ‘hag’  phenomenon where some females like to hang around gay guys because they feel safe that nothing sexual could actually happen?

    I find him sexy and a pleasure to look at and listen to, but that’s as far as it goes, and have no desire to hang around him, so whether he likes men, women, both or none doesn’t make any difference to me, and it’s not a question of feeling safe or not.
    What makes him sexy? for me, probably a combination of talent, intelligence, physical appearance and attitude both on and off stage.

  223. carolinacharms Jul 9th, 2009 at 4:30 am

    It’s pretty common that some women fantasize about turning an attractive gay man ‘straight.’  A pretty frustrating past-time, if you ask me. Isn’t there enough frustration in one’s life as it is? LOL!

    For me there is no fantasy involved. As Adam says “sexy is sexy.” He is intelligent, snarky, his physical appearance, and his general attitude all make him appealing to me. And in my book Adam is a damn freaking sexy guy. Full stop.

  224. My recap is almost done. Holy novel, Batman! I hope you guys/gals aren’t tired of reading yet, LOL.

  225. Oh and epic fail because I didn’t want an even longer post, it also happens in that in Adam’s case I do find him physically attractive. So again, I don’t care if he’s gay, he fits my wheelhouse of attractiveness there as well.

    Edited to go look at video…now without period at the end!

  226. Of course, there’s also the “unattainable man” phenomenon. Gay, straight or indifferent. Heh.

  227. The Vancouver Sun reviewer wasn’t very impressed by anyone, huh? Not even by Adam. Oh well.

    As for Adam and why someone would throw a bra at him, well maybe that person doesn’t care that he’s gay. Or maybe she thought it would be fun to see what his reaction would be. IDK. I think he’s very good looking, very nice, intelligent. Sexy, sure. But I’m not sexually attracted to him — big difference there. Have no desire to get him plastered and see I could get him to act on his so-called “bi-curiousity” (not that I’d be successful even if I was interested and actually had the opportunity – haha).

  228. Well, it’s 1:00 a.m. and I have to be up in 5 hours for work, but I just got home from the Vancouver idol concert and would like to share my impressions of it.
    Got there early and stood with fans waiting for the meet and greet. The only people that came out were Michael, them Matt and Danny, then later Scott and his brother and then Anoop and Matt again.
    Kris, Adam, Allison, Meagan and Lil didn’t come out. According to security they were doing press but would be available after the show.
    I noticed a lot of young girls with Kris posters and I’m Mrs. Kris Allen t-shirts…Matt was very funny, Danny looks better in person than he does on his photos as does Scott who is quite handsome in person. Anoop has a nice smile and is very tall (as is Scott).
    At the show, the audience was very mixed, families with kids, couples, older people (I’m talking in their 70’s ) and everyone seemed to be well behaved. No boos for anyone (I sat in the second tier of seats on the side with a nice view of the stage, the floor and the whole arena.
    While we were waiting for the meet and greet before the show, there was a couple there and apparently when their friends found out that the husband was coming to the show their friends told them that he (the husband) should give Adam a kiss – not sure if it was meant to be funny or what ?!
    Michael sounded good and was well received, Meagan looked great, sounded okay, Scott got laughs with his high-five jokes and seemed very relaxed,Lil looked bodacious once she was dancing Single ladies in her bra top? and pants, Anoop got people dancing, Matt was fantastic on the piano and the medley before break was tight!
    Allison is quite the ball of energy, great voice, wow!
    Danny’s latin dancing to ‘Maria ,Maria’ was surprisingly good and his sharing of his wife’s death and life choices was short. I think it really touched some people, as I noticed a lady my mom’s age (around 70) sitting behind us wiping tears during his last song. Danny took off his jacket for the last number and performed in his shirt, shades of Adam in the outfit – boots, chain, taking off jacket, mike dance…
    Adam was amazing, everyone on their feet, his voice was fantastic, dancing was sexy, I only took one photo during his set because I couldn’t take my eyes off of him, his performance is mesmerizing. The only time I felt that was a few years ago when I saw Page and Plant in Vancouver -they were my childhood idols but I didn’t get a chance to see them when they were in their prime, when I finally saw them they were so excellent that the whole audience was enthralled. Adam’s performance has the same effect (on me anyway).
    Noone left after his set, there was no disrespecting of Kris, noone as far as I could see ‘sat on their hands’ – he got a lot of yells and cheers and poster waving by fans and his piano playing and singing were excellent. I loved “Bright Lights” the best out of his set, very heartfelt.
    Allison’s back was to me when she was singing ‘Slow Ride’ with Adam and the bra got thrown on stage so I didn’t see her frown or get angry or whatever some of the tweets were saying – it was a bright pink bra (with substancial cups I might add, LOL) and he seemed to enjoy twirling it several times over his head before letting it fly into the audience. Someone then threw something else on the stage, but from where I was standing it didn’t look like the same bra – which was quite solid, it looked almost like matching undies …
    There was quite the applause at the group number and the audience sang along to ‘Hey Jude” when Kris invited us to.
    As someone already mentioned, Adam’s set went by very fast, not sure why….
    Afterwords, quite a few people (me among them) waited for an hour behind barricades for the promised meet and sign session. We were told that NONE of the idols will be posing with us for photos, but that we are welcome to get things signed and take photos of them. Adam came out first and then the other idols around 15 minutes later. We were in the middle so it took quite a while for Adam to get to us, we could see him moving towards us by the applause and his tall head above the security guards and the 2 people who were with him.
    My sister who has never watched AI and didn’t have a clue who anyone was, was quite overwhelmed by Adam – his looks and energy, so it was interesting to get her opinion on him, since she is not invested in it or a fan of his. She loved his height, his amazing eyes, and unbelievable smile, and lucky her, she got to touch his hand, while I was too busy fiddling with my camera trying to take a photo of him. I’m glad I didn’t get to touch him, not sure I could handle it. Close up his skin looks very good, his smile and eyes are exceptional and he is thin- his face is MUCH thinner than it looks in photos, almost fragile, which really surprised me.
    Interestingly enough , the next idol was Michael and close up he has a handsome face. Size wise, the most substancial idols close up are Michael and Matt, but everyone looks to be in very fit state.
    Everyone seems very likeable, we got to see Allison, Lil and Meagan and Kris come out but unfortunately had to go since we were about to miss the last suburban bus to our neck of the woods. Adam close up has a very, very calm energy, he really does have an aura….
    I took lots of photos of the meet and greet and some performance photos and will try to post them tomorrow evening after work.
    It was a FANTASTIC show, everyone seemed so much better in person than they did on television and it was worth every penny – if I had a chance to see them again I would. Loved it!!!!

  229. They handled the Bra incident beautifully. Looked to me like they were both amused by it. When something was thrown back at them (not sure what it was but it was small and white) they both giggled.

    Aah, our glambaby got his first initiation into Rock culture, his underwear right of passage. I’m so proud.

    That bra was gigantic by the way, what size is that?

  230. p.s. I’m amazed coming on this site and seeing all the twitter hoopla for a second day on a row, when I was actually at the concert, with a clear view of all the exits and let me assure everyone there was no booing and no exodus following Adam’s set and I’m neither deaf nor blind. There was also no Allison anger over the bra, it looked to me like she and Adam were enjoying it. I also have a feeling that Kris probably didn’t feel left out that no bra was thrown at him. Could we perhaps wait for people who are at these concerts to do a write up rather than rely on twitter gossip?
    This is only my opinion and MJ if you feel I’ve overstepped the guidelines by saying the above I’ll bow to your wisdom…..and apologize ahead of time….

  231. For me there is no fantasy involved. As Adam says ‘sexy is sexy.’  He is intelligent, snarky, his physical appearance, and his general attitude all make him appealing to me. And in my book Adam is a damn freaking sexy guy. Full stop.

    This! Add to that his insanely beautiful, sexy voice and singing skill. This is his deadly combination. Any men wondering what has women insane for this guy should study him instead of just saying WTF? BTW Just watched the new Tacoma WLL. I need coooooolin’.

  232. One last comment, regarding the bra throwing – Adam channels so much sexual energy with his artistry, his singing and dancing and his good looks that to me he feels and looks like a combination of The Lizard King (Jim Morrison) and early Robert Plant – the boy just has something, and I think those of us who are female and are attracted to him are attracted to the above, sexual attraction it seems to me is instinctive and not about – hmm, this guy is gay so I shouldn’t be attracted to him – he is channeling something powerful and some of us just feel it about him and it;s like a bee to a flower, -bees are attracted to beautiful flowers even of some of the flowers don’t produce honey- also, sometimes unattainable sexual attraction is the strongest ….This is my opinion only obviously, but I’m responding to the query by the poster above about why women would be attracted to a gay guy…I don’t think we choose it, IT chooses us…sexual attraction is hormonal not cerebral or logical (thankfully)…
    and tomorrow I’ll post a lovely photo of “IT” after the show….

  233. Yay! I’ve been afraid to say it, but all I could think while watching the Portland vids was…damn, he moves like Morrison!! Now, if he could only write the poetry…

  234. Thanks for the bra picture and the video, it was funny. I will wait until tomorrow for WLL. I will dream with Adam that man is so SEXY. He has the sexual energy so INTENSE when he performs and he is funny, humble and gracious off stage. I love Adam for all those unique qualities that I truly admire. (side note: turns me ONNN!)

  235. wowsa! allison’s looking and sounding good!!! Can’t wait to buy her album! Thanks for all the vids and posts guys! Keep ’em coming..

  236. I must say that video of Slow Ride with the bra was hilarious! Some of the others wouldn’t have known what to do if a bra was thrown at them, but Adam just swings it around and keeps on singing. If that isn’t a sign of a true professional that’s having fun, I don’t know what is.

    Thanks for this evenings pictures and videos – I’m feeling envious that I wasn’t there, even though I was at the concert last night. I know I’m feeling like a lot of others when I say that while I’ve been to a lot of concerts in my life, I don’t think I have ever felt this much like a groupie before!

    By the way, I think that Adam likes the vest — at least this week!

  237. ruskimom Jul 9th, 2009 at 5:24 am

    Yay! I’ve been afraid to say it, but all I could think while watching the Portland vids was’ ¦damn, he moves like Morrison!! Now, if he could only write the poetry’ ¦

    But he DOES write poetry…he had some posted on his MySpace page last year. And his father writes poetry and hosts poetry readings in San Diego.

    Here is the only a partial piece, I guess when I copied it I didn’t capture all of it and didn’t realize at the time:

    Adam Lambert: On the Roof, Seeking Proof. (partial poem)

    Dawn.

    The ink of night slow dances with muddled fire.

    Jagged mountian tops in a breathy mauve peak out of vague camouflage.

    A crow moans in horny recovery. Rubbing a last one out amid coconut ghosts and spiderwebs.

    This alley cat block still a mystery to me.

    On the roof. Seeking proof.

  238. #

    # 101 Q3 Jul 9th, 2009 at 12:30 am

    sarapocock – I don’t really care who won Americal Idol, Adam Lambert has the best voices I’ve ever heard! Holy shit! Wow! Wow! Wow!
    2 minutes ago from TwitterBerry

    Adam left her dazed. I can’t wait until August 18th.

  239. The song is called Slow Ride and it’s not about a train trip. What are they supposed to throw? Bibles?

    *snort* That was too funny

  240. I’m not ‘sexually attracted’ to him but rather find him sexy and attractive. I agree with Adam when he said sexy is sexy. It doesn’t matter what your sexual preference is. I find him sexy.

    Exactly how I feel, he’s beautiful, fun and extremely talented. If I met him, hell yes I would flirt my ass off but only in fun.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/31814432@N03/3703911814/sizes/o/

    ETA: That is an awesome JACKET. I think the tail lengths are adjustable as well as detachable.

  241. Check out this interview of the Idols interviewing themselves. Cute, silly stuff. Then it goes to the DSB practice session. That where the interesting stuff happens: at 4:19 Gokey really messes up, Sarver cracks up and looks at Adam, Adam looks at Sarver like “What was that?” then at about 5:12 to about 5:20 as Adam sings his part Sarver has his hand on Adam’s back! Has Adam’s legendary Pixie Dust finally ensnared Sarver???

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkXRB9CKGA0&feature=channel

  242. I listened to Rickey’s cell cast last night, and Matt sounded like he was doing really well, but the sound is so distorted. For the people who were there, how did he sound in person?

    TIA. :)

  243. Yep. Definitely a red bra. I was looking at Allison when it was thrown so I didn’t see it thrown on stage. I looked over and saw that Adam had a quirky smile on his face like he was about to start laughing and I was puzzled as to what it was about until I saw the bra lying there on the stage. So, I’d say he was amused. He picked it up and twirled it around and tossed it back to the thrower (I saw her talking later and she was quite proud of herself). By that time, Allison had turned around so I didn’t see what her expression was.

    I think that people should refrain from throwing stuff on stage because it sets a bad precedent. And throwing underwear was lame in the 70s. By now, it’s beyond lame. IMO.

    I agree. It’s rude and tacky. Performers can trip on stuff that is thrown on stage…..and HELLO! he threw it back. That perosn needs to get a clue…..and during Slow Ride? How inconsiderate was that towards Allison? Very. I’ve never understood this kind of sad behaviour in order to try and get attention. I hope if some fool does it again he just kicks whatever it is to the side and carries on.

  244. lizardino
    More great photos from the person who took the Adam with a bra photo. I think they are still posting more to their site. These have to be some of the best quality photos I have seen to date.

    Holy hell. Those photos are fantastic!! Would love to know what kind of camera they were using, and how close their seats were.

    Sunn
    It looks like the tail could be detachable, possibly on a zipper. I would love to see that jacket without the tail. More booty less tail. =)

    I’m absolutely positive that Adam said in an interview that *THE JACKET* has detachable tails. Just don’t know which interview.

  245. flicker
    I listened to Rickey’s cell cast last night, and Matt sounded like he was doing really well, but the sound is so distorted. For the people who were there, how did he sound in person?

    He sounded really good. I’ve emailed my recap to mj. Hopefully her inbox doesn’t implode under the weight of my four emails of photos and the epic recap (over 4 pages in MS Word). Christ, it’s 4:30am. I have to get up in 3 hours to go to work. I’m so screwed. Later all!

  246. More great photos from the person who took the Adam with a bra photo. I think they are still posting more to their site. These have to be some of the best quality photos I have seen to date.

    Wow! Those pics are all great! What high quality (wish my camera could do that!) Allison and Adam especially looked awesome – and the after show shots up close of the idols signing autographs – oh, if I could manage to get that close I think I’d die :-)

    I guess I’m not at all surprised about the bra incident :-) we knew that was coming – and more to come, I’m afraid. Doing it during SR is weird, though, with Allison there too. Makes more sense during WLL.

    Now, if someone did that during Danny’s set — that would be PRICELESS just to get his reaction to it!

  247. no matter how it’s packaged, Adam is still quite obviously an Alpha Male.

    Imo Adam is such a chameleon, that he’s able to appeal to all different groups because he can (and has) taken on so many different personas. He’s definitely very androgynous, which is fascinating and a little mysterious – kind of walking that line (as many previous musicians have) of just embodying sexiness in its own right, rather than being purely male or female about it – his definition of sexiness is sort of this nebulous, universal, enigmatic style – which in and of itself is pretty sexy :-)

    From one performance to the next he’ll meld into the “alpha male” (more akin to his rock performances – BoW, SR, WLL, BTBW), but then he can also switch to the slinky, androgynous style (like with the Bowie medley, not unlike Bowie himself of course). It really is fascinating to watch.

  248. Happy it sounded like a great show in my hometown in Vancouver!! Living in Japan makes it hard to get to the shows!! :)

    And we all know it was Allison’s mom who threw the bra on stage son!

  249. Why do straight women find Adam attractive: Well, I’m straight. He just is sexy. Like others have said, it isn’t because I actually want to have sex with him. He is just stimulating to watch. It is pleasurable to watch him. We all like to be pleasured, lol.

    I wonder more why I am into watching Brian and Justin on Queer as Folk? I just find it so sexy. Maybe because the characters are men and yet so tender and falling in love? Thereby appealing to the woman in me? Who knows. I just roll with it, lol.

  250. We’ll have to see whether the bra episode is going to set the tone for the rest of the tour. I hope not, because although once is funny, more of it would make a garish show in my opinion.
    But I am with Mary about some underwear thrown at Danny (once), it would be priceless.

  251. Thanks for the Vancouver Sun review.

    Interesting facts from the revew. The audience is still mostly tweens/teens. That’s the traditional Idol audience for these shows. The Vancouver show was not Sold Out. I’m guessing that’ll be the standard for the rest of the tour with the good seats selling quickly but plenty of nosebleeds available. So don’t believe the hype that these shows are Sold Out. Not true.

    Adam is def the standout according to that review although the comparison to Sebastian Bach was perfect.

  252. Is there any pictures or videos of kris or allison from the concert? ADam wasnt the only one at the concert.I know its hard to believe.

  253. “I admire Adam’s talent, but can someone explain to me why females are sexually attracted to a flamboyantly effeminate gay guy.” Garland 77
    Well, Garland, after watching the latest WLLove vid from Tacoma, I’m a little surprised anyone has to ask how women consider him so sexy, LOL. He embodies both masculine and feminine qualities, imho. In WLL, he’s masculine, and aggressively so, that commanding come-hither gesture. In interviews or off-stage behavior he is more feminine, and in some of his dancing and singing, like Bowie, he’s also more feminine, but even when he’s feminine, he’s conveying a sexual energy. The person who gave the review of their Portland rehearsal called it a “burlesque angel” on his shoulder. When a person puts out the “look at me, I’m attractive” vibe, seems that is considered a feminine act. Straight men less often show that awareness or put out the “look at me as a sexual object” vibe, even the metro ones like my husband,who takes care to exercise and be neatly dressed. (I believe a R.Stone critic referenced Adam’s conscious sensual performances.) There are some straight singers that come to my mind who did seem to intentionally convey themselves as sex objects–Mick Jagger, Michael Hutchens, and Jim Morrison are a few. But upon occasion, esp. in the club scene when I was younger, I did meet other straight men who had an understanding of their sensuality.

  254. As far as being attracted to him because he’s safe’ ¦ oh, hell no. One of the attractions to Adam is that he doesn’t seem safe at all when he’s on that stage. He’s all fire, and liquid, and heavy breathing, and you feel like it doesn’t matter what he prefers when he goes home’ ¦. when he’s up there, anyone is fair game.

    LOL! So true! This is exactly what I think during WLL!

    Maria22 – great review! And your description of meeting them after the show has given me a little hope that I might actually get kind of close to Adam – that would just be amazing! And from your description he sounds incredible in person!

    I have met some pretty big celebrities over the years (mainly waiting after broadway shows in NYC for autographs). I think Adam would easily rank with some of them in terms of that “star quality”.

  255. Adam is sexy not in a sexual kinda of way. He is sexy because of all his good qualities. He is mega-talented guy, has good fashion sense (metrosexual), can dance, has a go-getter attitude – doesn’t let anything stop him from getting what he wants, gracious, intelligent and witty. He has a kind heart as seen on how he treats the people around him. Doesn’t hurt that he has the looks. I am from Asia and his anime type of look is considered fashionable here. You see Koreans, Chinese, Japanese, Filipinos having the same hair style and look. I think Adam is sexy because he epitomizes what we think a perfect male should be. It has nothing to do with his sexual preference, it has all to with his character. He is for me beautiful inside and out. That’s why i throw my support behind Glambert!

  256. Adam is def the standout according to that review although the comparison to Sebastian Bach was perfect.

    To have a rock artist’s style compared to classical music, that sounds oddly familiar. Where I have heard that before? Oh yes. Zeppelin.
    You’re right, it is prefect.

  257. Is there any pictures or videos of kris or allison from the concert? ADam wasnt the only one at the concert.I know its hard to believe.

    A couple are embedded here

  258. I’m not attracted to Adam but I get why people are. He just oozes de sex. And while he may call himself flamboyant, I would agree with those who assert he’s more androgynous. With him, he doesn’t just have sex in his aura, its like sex with possibilities… like you just don’t know what will happen, but you know you’ll probably like it. LOL.

  259. Adam is def the standout according to that review although the comparison to Sebastian Bach was perfect.

    To have a rock artist’s style compared to classical music, that sounds oddly familiar. Where I have heard that before? Oh yes. Zeppelin.
    You’re right, it is prefect.

    I think the reference was to the 80’s hairband Skid Row lead singer Sebastian Bach, I wasn’t a Skid Row fan so I found that to be insulting to Adam.

  260. Soooo.. what is your outfit like? I have no idea what to wear. It probably won’t identify me as an Adam fan. But I want to show some spirit too. Hmmmm’ ¦..maybe glittery eyeshadow and a black top. squeee’ ¦. I have no idea’ ¦LOL

    iluvai, sorry, I’m way late answering this question. But that’s basically my outfit. LOL. Black sleeveless top and glittery eyeliner. Hit up Sephora. They have an awesome black eyeliner with either gold or silver sparkles in it. Sounds tacky, but goes on great. Perfect for the Adam show!

  261. Actually, looks like this years ‘hottest ticket’  is Prudential Center in Newark, NJ based on selling prices (action market). Some one paid $6,800 EACH for 4 front row seat. Now someone else is asking $7,100 for Row 1.

    Wow … that’s disturbing.

  262. I admire Adam’s talent, but can someone explain to me why females are sexually attracted to a flamboyantly effeminate gay guy

    LOL. I wouldn’t describe Adam as effeminate at all. I think he has the kind of personality that a lot of women would find attractive. However, if we’re talking about the physical, I don’t find him attractive at all and I have yet to find a female person outside of the internet who finds him sexually appealing (other than my mother who thinks he looks like Elvis) . Also, the “sexy face” that he attempts when he is singing is just all kinds of wrong…..I feel like I’m watching a parody of something whenever he does that look. I don’t think that internet opinions from diehard idol viewers reflects that of the general public.

    I’m really impressed with Allison and how much she has improved. She has a very promising career ahead of her.

  263. I think the reference was to the 80’s hairband Skid Row lead singer Sebastian Bach, I wasn’t a Skid Row fan so I found that to be insulting to Adam.

    I don’t know Skid Row’s music at all, I’m familiar with the name but that’s as far as my knowledge of them goes. I’ll go look their music up and come back.

  264. To have a rock artist’s style compared to classical music, that sounds oddly familiar. Where I have heard that before? Oh yes. Zeppelin.
    You’re right, it is prefect.

    I dont think that’s the Bach he was referring to

  265. I’m sure its not just kris being booed.I think there adam/bitterbert fans booing if kris is being booed.This is the same fanbase that said kris won for un-fair reasons when he won fair.I have a friend who didnt watch idol and wants to go to the concert just to boo him but im just gonna sit and try to get into his music.

    I can’t imagine any of them getting booed. I went during S5, and that was a pretty contentious year in terms of Daughtry getting 4th place when many thought he would/should win. There was definitely nothing but love for everyone. And Taylor was very entertaining and had a TON of supporters.

    Same with Kris. He is very talented, the singing sounded great, and I’d like to think that even the most bitter fans could put it all aside now since it’s over, what’s done is done, and taking a page from the Kradam book they are so supportive and happy for each other, so we should be too (plus, there is always the added Adam consolation prize – not having to sing No Boundaries ;-) )

  266. I don’t know Skid Row’s music at all, I’m familiar with the name but that’s as far as my knowledge of them goes. I’ll go look their music up and come back.

    Sunn you were not missing anything – think Poison and Brett Michel’s but with more 80’s and more hair but less make-up.

  267. This..from an obviously over-the-hill Adam fan…

    For me, the oldest wive’s tale out there is that women are most sexually attracted to manly men. Well, my description of a “manly man” is all wrapped up in beer guzzling contests, and jokes about farts and burps, and lumberjack shirts and hiking boots, Sundays at Nascar or a football game. None of which I find appealing in the least….their other masculine friends are welcome to them.

    What appeals to me are men that are not afraid to display their “feminine” qualities. Love of good food and fine wine or a “girly” cocktail. Poetry and great literature, art and sculpture, love of slow car rides to enjoy the view from a mountain top, or long meandering walks along the ocean shore or a river path. Men who take the time to pamper themselves, who dress well and enjoy the occasional suit and tie evening. Guys who will go out of their way to enjoy some “classical” theater as well as be patient with you as they explain the intricacies of 4th and goal being 3 points behind. Men who aren’t afraid to hug and laugh and touch…with either sex.

    I don’t care if a man is hetero, bi, gay, or non-sexual. I just want him to be aware that there is more to life than fast motorcycles and strippers on a Saturday night. When a man can go beyond the stereotypical man’s man then he is sexy and turns me ON big time. Guess that is why I loves me some Adam. He has all of these qualities in spades…and I find it very appealing.

    The pictures posted above aren’t just good they are magnificent. They really epitomize the performing character of Adam….how he uses himself to draw everyone in, and with a picture you can’t hear a note so that is how I know Adam has the IT factor for me.

    Thanks for the reviews everyone and the links….The Phoenix show isn’t that far off and I’m excited.

  268. Adam is not being compared to the composer Bach but to the 80s hair band singer who now performs on Broadway. Although comparing him to J. Bach would be pretty funny since they don’t seem to have much in common. At least to me.

    Some of the Led Zep music had a classical feel to it thanks to Jimmy Page’s brilliance. Not exactly sure how Adam figures into that at all since most of his songs will be written for him.

  269. Just watched the Bra-gate vid. Those two are pros! The way Adam didn’t miss a beat and was able to swing the bra overhead, almost like a part of the show, and Allison was great too. Tess, well said on what makes a man sexy! I said some similar things about how Adam is both masculine and feminine in his sensuality. Summer, that’s a cool pic, Adam the Rock Avatar.

  270. I think the question of why women are attracted to Adam has probably already been fully answered, but I can’t resist adding my two cents: For me, it doesn’t matter in the least that Adam is gay. For starters, I have no chance with him whether he’s gay, straight, or somewhere in between. So his sexuality has no bearing on whether I find him sexually attractive. And I do find him sexually attractive. He’s gorgeous, talented, sexy, over the top, smart, funny, and confident. That’s an irresistible combination in my book. And yes, he’s androgynous and wears make-up and has hips like a snake, but at the same time there’s something blatantly alpha male about him, too. He’s like the best of both worlds in one gorgeous package.

  271. About Vancouver and WLL, I’ve looked at one vid which was cut short, so has anyone described the performance? Did Adam say “baby” or “woman” and, most importantly, did he keep the COME HITHER gesture??

    Ellie2, as usual, agree!

  272. hes been singing “woman”…do you think he will change that? and i too agree with Ellie2.

    i cannot wait until i see him live…i am definitely obsessed lol

  273. I’m guessing he’s singing “woman” just because the word itself flows better in the song and is probably easier to sing live (and make it sound good) than “baby.”

  274. I think the reference was to the 80’s hairband Skid Row lead singer Sebastian Bach, I wasn’t a Skid Row fan so I found that to be insulting to Adam.

    I don’t know Skid Row’s music at all, I’m familiar with the name but that’s as far as my knowledge of them goes. I’ll go look their music up and come back.

    Ok, so I just familiarized myself with a couple of their videos on Youtube, especially the one of them performing “I Will Remember You” in Wembley, it wasn’t showy at all unless you count Bach’s “get the fuck out speech”, which was hilarious by the way, so I have no idea what the author means. One thing Adam and Sebastian do have in common, Sebastian Bach can also sing his ass off.

  275. I’m guessing he’s singing ‘woman’  just because the word itself flows better in the song and is probably easier to sing live (and make it sound good) than ‘baby.’ 

    I’m kind of glad he’s using “woman” – though I was getting used to “baby” from the studio track. Having listened (way too much!) to both his version and the original Led Zep, I like the fact that “woman” is just a little dirtier, grittier, sexier, than “baby” (jmo).

    The original song is very sensual in a gritty kind of way, so “woman” just seems to fit better. But I understood the reason to change it to baby, and both work.

  276. Yay! I’ve been afraid to say it, but all I could think while watching the Portland vids was’ ¦damn, he moves like Morrison!! Now, if he could only write the poetry’ ¦

    He reminds me a lot of Jim Morrison particurly when Adam sings WLL.

    Adam says he writes poetry. I just wonder if we will ever get to see any of it or if it is any good. Doubt it could be great like Jim Morrison’s.

  277. so I have no idea what the author means.

    Sebastain Bach can sing but he was considered pretty damn cheesy. He sold a bunch of records in his day but I wouldn’t say he was respected. I’m pretty sure that’s what the author was getting at.

    As far as Adam’s pull on women despite being pretty damn gay, I think I finally figured out how to say it. Think Portia De Rossi for straight men. Get it now? LOL.

  278. Not sure it is mentioned but the Idol peeps take turns doing press or they did last year which is only fair………

  279. Tess, this is funny. I didn’t look at your username, and only read part of your your post. So at the end I honestly expected to read: “And that’s why I love Kris Allen” Ha. I think you described him pretty well, in describing Adam. No wonder they get along so great.

    As for the applause meter (sorry if this has been beaten to death): my take on it, as a Kris fan, after listening to all the cellcasts and videos, is that I couldn’t tell the difference, so I guess you have to be there to tell. If Adam gets a bigger response, it doesn’t surprise me, for several reasons. But I think it’s cool that Kris, who is a subtle and classy singer-songwriter musician type of guy, without any (consciously) sexy moves, or audience-wowing “vocal gymnastics,” elicits the enormous response he does.

    At least from my point of view Kris’s audience response has been everything I could hope for.

  280. Natasha
    Jul 9th, 2009 at 2:19 am
    I agree. Adam and Kris share similar fans, just look at the online communities. There’s probably over 100,000 Kradam fans on ONTD alone.

    They’re probably all basically Adam fans who like Kris too. Every single Kris fan I’ve met hates Adam with a passion.”

    If that’s truly the case, you need to meet more Kris fans. I’m a Kris fan who loves Adam. The majority of Kris fans I know do as well. (Even the ones who don’t love him are just low-key types who like him in smaller doses) I’ve yet to meet a Kris fan with passionate Adam hate.

  281. Some may not consider a comparison to Sebastien Bach a compliment, cheesy is right, like your poor man’s Bret Michaels and I always thought Poison was the poor man’s Motley Crue – he is a interesting guy I will say that and he can sing – he was on some bizarre reality show with Ted Nugent and a bunch of other guys from different bands, like the cool guy from Anthrax, trying to put together a live show in like an ridiculously short period of time, he has serious ADD but I am beginning to think many lead singers of rock bands do…..basically Ted and Sebastien dominated the show – I love Ted Nugent, may not agree with his politics but he’s a straightshooter.

    I loved his appearances on Trailer Park Boys though, bwah.

  282. I think the question of why women are attracted to Adam has probably already been fully answered, but I can’t resist adding my two cents

    Me too. First, I don’t think most women perceive Adam as being effeminate, more androgynous, at least most of the time.

    Second, imagine if Angelina Jolie were a lesbian (she’s certainly displayed a strong and aggressive, if not wholly masculine, persona in some of her gun-toting, butt-kicking action movies) and announced in a magazine that love is love and with a few drinks in her she might be tempted to be bi-curious. I think more than a few straight guys would be lining up to buy her a cocktail.

    As far as the bra tossing thing is concerned, I think this is only the beginning.

    And twitter is the devil! Glad to hear both Kris and Adam got a lot of love from the Vancouver crowd from the people who were actually at the concert.

    Love to read those first-hand accounts of the show. To all who attend, keep them coming people! It does NOT get old.

    ETA: And, yeah, I know Jolie has been bi-curious before, but I think she’s a good example of someone whose appeal crosses gender lines, regardless of her personal preferences.

  283. I’m not sure why so many people think that Adam is androgynous. His performance style if Alpha male–not androgynous. That’s why I think so many women swoon over him. They are attracted to the the hyper masculinity wrapped up in what we all know is a sensitive and sweet man. If he wasn’t so sweet and sensitive off stage, I’d probably think he was a bit of a narcissistic pig.

    Artists like Prince or Michael seem androgynous to me–not Adam. He does have an extremely well developed feminine sensibility, but that comes out more when he is not performing. He’s just giving us what we want during his performances! How kind of him! He even swoons in WLL–throws his head and whole body back like he is overcome with all the love coming from the crowd.

  284. Think Portia De Rossi for straight men. Get it now? LOL.

    A perfect one line answer to the question. LOL!

  285. Artists needs to get used to things getting thrown up on stage and roll with it, some of the funniest moments at concerts have been when the artist reacts with great humour and wit to that which is thrown….nothing more priceless than Archuleta’s deep embarassment as ladie panties got thrown up during the finale as I recall a few times, whereas as the older guys just rolled with it.

    I would recommend rubber chickens or stuffed animals, some of these have become part of the entourage, I hear Cook’s tour is traveling with either the formerly INXS rubber chicken mascot Parmy [short for Parmigiana] or this is Parmy II. Parmy has her own MySpace and I think she’s mentioned her love of Cook, bwah.

  286. Adam is def the standout according to that review although the comparison to Sebastian Bach was perfect.

    Sunn: To have a rock artist’s style compared to classical music, that sounds oddly familiar. Where I have heard that before? Oh yes. Zeppelin.
    You’re right, it is prefect.

    I think that the reviewer reference that Adam was like (Skid Row’s) Sebastian Bach was intended as an insult. But an odd comparison because I think that Bach may be more famous for wearing an a T-shirt with an anti-gay message than his singing. IMO Adam’s a better vocalist.

  287. I think that the reviewer reference that Adam was like (Skid Rows) Sebastian Bach was intended as an insult. But an odd comparison because I think that Bach may be more famous for wearing an a T-shirt with an anti-gay message than his singing. IMO Adam’s a better vocalist.

    I took it as an insult, Bach could sing but everything else about him was not something I would compare Adam with – but to each it’s own. I would have preferred a comparison to Brett Michels – the pre- ‘Rock of Love Brett Michels”

    ETA: regarding the T-shirt he wore

    http://www.knowledgerush.com/kr/encyclopedia/Anti-gay_slogans/

  288. I think that the reviewer reference that Adam was like (Skid Rows) Sebastian Bach was intended as an insult.

    Yes. I took it as an insult too. Actually, that whole article was negative. lol The writer didn’t like anyone!

  289. I was reading an interesting article on MJ- a particular group of paps were following him everyday starting in around November. Only they and a group of European female fans knew the one place MJ was staying before he moved to the Holmby Hill place. The paps were saying the girls were all young and attractive girls and that Michael would not only stop and shoot the breeze with the paps quite often, he would invite these female fans into his house for lunch or this or that. The one pap said Michael was the only celebrity that if you said I love you Michael that got you an invite into his house.

  290. Tess: This..from an obviously over-the-hill Adam fan’ ¦

    For me, the oldest wive’s tale out there is that women are most sexually attracted to manly men.

    Tess, I think you nailed it! When I read your comment all I could think about was the Brawny man rebranding in 2004! LOL

    They’ve spent frightening amounts of time and money designing the new Brawny Man. They went through untold iterations, seeking to strike the perfect balance between “too real” and “not believable.” A photo of a real-life hunky fireman was rejected (“too real,” says Biondi), and more cartoonish versions of the Brawny Man also got dumped. “It’s like romance novels. Women want someone more fantasylike, who they can mold in their own image.” And when you think about it, it’s no different than selling beer with hot, slutty women.

  291. I do find him sexually attractive. He’s gorgeous, talented, sexy, over the top, smart, funny, and confident. That’s an irresistible combination in my book. And yes, he’s androgynous and wears make-up and has hips like a snake, but at the same time there’s something blatantly alpha male about him, too. He’s like the best of both worlds in one gorgeous package.

    Ellie, I TOTALLY agree with everything you said here. There is just something inherantly sexy about him, and I find his humor about it just adds to the sexiness. In the video for WLL from Portland, where he does the hip thrusts and then laughs right after, you can see the joy he’s getting from just performing for people. That joy that is so evident along with the sexy package just equals WIN for me.

    Tess, you’re going to the Phoenix show?? Me too!

  292. For the person who asked: I just saw the video for last night ´s WLL and Adam said “baby”.

  293. Sebatian Bach actually played the lead in jeckyll & hyde on bway and got pretty good reviews, esp for his singing….imho the reason why so many 30 and 40 something women like adam (apart from his sheer fabulousness) is that he reminds them of the stud lead singers of 70s/80s arena rock and hair bands they grew up listening to….you know, the charismatic front men who could really SING and belt out a song (e.g. steve perry, dennis deyoung etc.) Sometimes you just want to see a sexy guy belt out a tune (rather than rap, croon softly or be autotuned to death.)

  294. After finally reviewing the video evidence, it looks to me like the bra was thrown at Allison!! At least that’s where it landed.

  295. Looks like everyone was even better for the Vancouver Show. They are adjusting it as they go. So, Danny’s “speach” was much shorter, and he’s got new clothes and his dancing is getting better. Matt’s working with a vocal coach and it’s really showing, and across the board the choreography is getting tighter — like on last nights Slow Ride, Alison and Adam were so much tighter. Really cool.

    Danny really sounds pretty good, but it sounds like he is really straining his voice. I can’t see how he does 49 more shows without making some adjustments.

  296. Wow, thanks for that new video of Bright Lights and Hey Jude. Very intense BL. Holy crap!

    This answers my question from the other day, Kris gets no set-end bow, his set segues right into the idols coming on at the end of Hey Jude. I think he should.

  297. Mom in the Suburbs
    About Vancouver and WLL, I’ve looked at one vid which was cut short, so has anyone described the performance? Did Adam say ‘baby’  or ‘woman’  and, most importantly, did he keep the COME HITHER gesture??

    He said “Baby”, and he did do the “come hither” gesture, & IIRC, he cocked his head to one side and waited til the crowd roared more. It was great! In my mind I’m seeing a one-eyebrow-raised look and that smile that says “Come on, I knoooow you want more!” It could be only my imagination, because I’m kind of braindead right now (and it’s all Glambert’s fault).

  298. KLI
    I’m not sure why so many people think that Adam is androgynous. His performance style if Alpha male ‘“ not androgynous. That’s why I think so many women swoon over him. They are attracted to the the hyper masculinity wrapped up in what we all know is a sensitive and sweet man.

    Yep, I see Alpha Male as well. And it IS the fact that the masculinity is combined with a non-arsehole personality that makes him so irresistible to me. I find him to be such an enigma and that’s why I can’t get enough.

  299. I’m pretty positive Sebastian Bach was a regular on the Gilmour Girls, too. What was that about? Needed the work? LOL I thought it was odd. He was a member of the band — the kids thought he was way too old. ::grin:: Am I spelling Gilmour correctly? Is it Gilmore? Oh well…

  300. Hmmm… wonder why in the meet and greet after the show Adam came out alone, first for 15 min. then the rest came out. Did he leave after that?

    BTW, I’m hearing the band is too loud. Someone who was at rehearsal said Adam told the band it was too much band. It doesn’t seem like that was corrected.

  301. Reminder:

    I just deleted a few posts.

    Please take topics that have NOTHING to do with the tour to the headlines thread. These tour threads are not for chit-chatting about your favorite Idol.

    Please keep the discussion focused on the tour.

    Also, the booing thing is ridiculous. I’ve been attending the Idol tour since Season 3 and I’ve never heard audible booing of ANY Idol. These tweeters are either pulling our collective chains, or talking about a tiny isolated instance that only people within close proximity would notice.

    Also the leaving early thing is not a big deal. People leave concerts early for a lot of reasons. But I’ve never seen them leave in “droves”. Peeps who are claiming that are surely exaggerating.

  302. I’m pretty positive Sebastian Bach was a regular on the Gilmour Girls, too. What was that about? Needed the work? LOL I thought it was odd. He was a member of the band ‘” the kids thought he was way too old. ::grin:: Am I spelling Gilmour correctly? Is it Gilmore? Oh well’ ¦

    Yep. That’s where I first learned more about him, when he popped up on Gilmore Girls, one of my all time favorite shows. Him being too old to be in the band was part of the joke. He was very funny in that role, BTW.

  303. Hey some women find Marilyn Manson hot—the dynamics of human attraction often defies explanation.

  304. Hmmm’ ¦ wonder why in the meet and great after the show Adam came out alone, first for 15 min. then the rest came out. Did he leave after that?

    It might be to keep it calm. My understanding is that last year with Cook and Archie that in some place they went out separately and often at different times. Doesn’t sound like the Adam fans are close to Cook-level craziness.

    It will be interesting to see what happens at the larger shows — like Staples Center where it looks like it might end up close to sold out — and that place holds over 20,000 for a concert.

    And I am sure that Little Rock will be crazy for Kris — it’s sold out and that’s about 15,000 people! Probably 14,999 Kris fans!

  305. This answers my question from the other day, Kris gets no set-end bow, his set segues right into the idols coming on at the end of Hey Jude. I think he should.

    Haven’t watched the vids to know for sure, but doesn’t his set technically end with “Bright Lights” – applause, leave stage, then come back for “Hey Jude” as his encore? This is how it worked last year for Cook (ended set, left stage, then came back for “Billie Jean” as his encore. )

    I guess what I’m getting at is, is Hey Jude actually treated as an encore, or does it just segue from Bright Lights? Any show watchers know?

  306. Yes he was Evanjane, darn I have forgotten about that, he dabbles in the acting as well

    From 2004 to 2007, Bach had a recurring role on the CW television show Gilmore Girls as “Gil”, the lead guitarist in Lane Kim’s band, Hep Alien.

  307. Instead of believing evil tweets from evil twits (twats?), I’d suggest watching videos of the concert.

  308. I just had to stop reading the comments and post:

    Sunn: Your comment about Sebastian Bach being classical totally cracked me up – thanks for a great laugh! No disrespect, but it was just so funny. (Classical Bach = JS Bach, JC Bach, CPE Bach, WF Bach, and there are a few other sons that I’m forgetting about that were composers also, but definitely NOT Sebastian Bach LOL).
    Anyway – loved the comment, I’m still smiling, probably will all day so thanks :-)

    Did anyone notice or comment about the Heartless vid from last night? Kris repeated the first verse twice, haha. I’m sure it isn’t the last screwup for any of the idols on the tour. I don’t think any of the reviewers (professional or amateurs) have noted that yet! Funny stuff.

    And – the reviews from the peeps who were actually at the concert match my observations from the Tacoma concert – despite what you may see on Twitter, etc. there was no booing or mass groups of people leaving, all the Idols got plenty of love, etc. Just goes to show … something.

  309. Haven’t watched the vids to know for sure, but doesn’t his set technically end with ‘Bright Lights’  – applause, leave stage, then come back for ‘Hey Jude’  as his encore?

    Last night, he did not leave the stage between “Bright Lights” and “Hey, Jude”. He just switched guitars.

  310. Kris does not leave the stage after BL – he goes right into Hey Jude after swapping his electric for an acoustic.

  311. Adam was amazing!!!! the red bra, lol. he handled it so well!!! and the reviewer was so right, when he’s on the stage, it turned into a R-rated fabulous solo show!! just stunning! and some flirt with the mic stand, lol, I am freaking jealous!!

    BTW, Adam did write poetry and I’ve read two or three poems on his myspace, I don’t know if they are still there now. For me, they are really profound, beautiful. some are hautingly dark and intriging… but I don’t know..since English is my second language. I guess I don’t have the ability to tell what is a good poem. for me, anything Adam wrote would sound beautiful and perfect! :)

  312. I had thought that Kris was playing rythym guitar on Bright Lights. Wrong. Finally a video that goes up close to the guitar, where it is obvious that he is in fact, playing that screaming LEAD. Utter coolness!

  313. Mary 102, Hey Jude is Kris’ song, not a group number. The others only join him for the end of the nah nah nahs. Then it goes right in to Don’t Stop Believing.

  314. Can anyone help me find Hey Jude and Don’t Stop Believing on youtube for the Vancouver show? I can’t seem to find any videos of those. Thanks.

  315. I read on a couple of other boards that numerous people said Adam’s set seemed really short. Could it be because Danny had a longer one, so Adam’s seemed short?

  316. Gossip Candy has close up of the JACKET they call it it the F!Jacket, it is truly spectacular.

  317. In the Slow Ride video you clearly see another thing thrown at Adam after he sent back the bra. It seems that it was a thong:

    IzelaLim A thong was thrown at alli right after a bra was thrown at adam. During signing, she was like, “A THONG WAS THROWN AT MY BOOB”about 10 hours ago from web

    IzelaLimThen she said something about the wearer possibly having crabs and she was like, “I DON’T WANT CRABS ON MY BOOB”about 10 hours ago from web

    I found it was funny that people thought Allison will be upset about that, kind of hard picturing her upset about anything at all.
    She was probably freaked out tough and I can understand why!

  318. Best AI, I think Adam’s set feels short to Adam’s fans, because Kris’ set feels really short to me.

    Danny’s set seems like forever, and Adam’s seems long to me, only because I am eager to hear Kris.

  319. and he did do the ‘come hither’  gesture, & IIRC, he cocked his head to one side and waited til the crowd roared more. It was great! In my mind I’m seeing a one-eyebrow-raised look and that smile that says ‘Come on, I knoooow you want more!’  Oh Anastasia, thank you for that wonderful description! So he’s perfecting that move and keeping it for the rest of the tour, I bet, yummy. Can’t wait for my turn. “Baby” or “Woman” is all good as long as he beckons me towards the stage, so to speak, at least my screams towards the stage, lol. Then my night will be complete. :smoke_tb: Someone on Utube comments compared it to the finger-crook in the 38-second video, btw.

  320. I guess Adam doesnt dye his underarm hair. I remember reading somewhere Adam said his eyebrows are like white. LOL.

    I cant believe Im talking about adam’s armpit hair. What is this guy doing to me?

  321. Hmmm’ ¦ wonder why in the meet and great after the show Adam came out alone, first for 15 min. then the rest came out. Did he leave after that?

    I read in one of the reviews posted here that Adam did not make it to the pre-show meet & greet; so maybe he went out first for the post-show to give his fans more time for autographs. just saying.

  322. Squirrely: I took it as an insult, Bach could sing but everything else about him was not something I would compare Adam with – but to each it’s own. I would have preferred a comparison to Brett Michels – the pre- ‘Rock of Love Brett Michels’ 

    ETA: regarding the T-shirt he wore

    http://www.knowledgerush.com/kr/encyclopedia/Anti-gay_slogans/

    Squirrely, I agree — no way to read this as anything but an insult. I remembered the T-shirt incident — and although I don’t think there is agreement on the details. One thing is sure, Sebastian Bach was not a very nice person in the 80’s and 90’s. I can’t image Adam assulting a fan in the audience with a bottle, or ever being convicted of assult and battery, or being intentionally rude.

    I saw him with Skid Row opening for Guns n’ Roses and he was nothing like Adam. I just don’t get this one. I have never seen him live again, so don’t know if he is more like Adam. Just can’t see it.

    Frim the LATimes 1/21/1990:

    With his Top 20 album past 3 million copies in sales, his video a regular winner of MTV’s “Top 20 Countdown” and his face popping up on teen-age bedroom walls everywhere, Sebastian Bach is heavy-metal’s hottest new sex symbol. But will his star be dimmed by a pair of recent incidents in which the headbanger poster-boy enraged AIDS activists and was arrested after hitting a fan in the face with a bottle during a concert?

    Last month, Bach was criticized by AIDS activists after a heavy-metal fan mag ran a picture of the 21-year-old singer wearing a T-shirt with an insensitive AIDS-related, anti-gay epithet that cannot be printed in The Times.

    Quizzed about the shirt by MTV last month, Skid Row’s lead singer lightheartedly responded: “I understand it’s not cool to make fun of death. I guess nobody gets my jokes. Anyway, a kid threw (the shirt) on stage, I put it on, and all these people got mad at me. But let me just state this–I do not know, condone, comprehend or understand homosexuality in any way, shape, form or (laughs) size.”

    Sebastian Bach was outspoken in his anti-gay statements and IMO that is why the fan threw the shirt at him. For 2 decades he’s been asked about it in every interview. Here’s what Back said in an interview in 2003 — 14 years later he told a different story.

    “”What about the infamous T-shirt?”

    Here’s how I put that in perspective. I wore a T-shirt in 1989, for like 30 minutes one night backstage at an L.A. Guns concert, with a homophobic message.” He turns me on. “That was really stupid and wrong for me to wear that for one-half hour in my life. What nobody brings up is in 2000, when I was in “Jeckyll and Hyde,” and at an auction for Broadway Cares, I donated $12,000 of my own money to fight AIDS.”

    http://www.orlandoweekly.com/columns/story.asp?id=2935

  323. Best AI, I think Adam’s set feels short to Adam’s fans, because Kris’ set feels really short to me.

    Danny’s set seems like forever, and Adam’s seems long to me, only because I am eager to hear Kris.

    Exactly – just like how on AI Adam’s sets always seemed 2 seconds to everyone elses 2 hrs – just because of my interest in him vs the others.

    Still, where are the timers coming out for the set counts ;-) (JK – I really don’t want to go there!)

    Kris does not leave the stage after BL – he goes right into Hey Jude after swapping his electric for an acoustic.

    Interesting. I just assumed HJ was his official encore, like in previous years. I guess they felt for segues it worked better this way.

  324. I think Hey Jude is more of an anthem song and in a lot of performances I usually see people join Paul McCartney when he does it so he probably got inspiration from that.

    and it’s a good thing that some of the sets *seem* short because that just means you’re having a good time!

  325. Thanks for answering my question about Kris’s set, guys. My take on it is: if the rest come out to close his song, the applause is for all of them, and he never gets applause for himself alone, after his set.
    Don’t see why not, he ought to. But, whatever.

  326. Did anyone notice or comment about the Heartless vid from last night? Kris repeated the first verse twice, haha. I’m sure it isn’t the last screwup for any of the idols on the tour. I don’t think any of the reviewers (professional or amateurs) have noted that yet! Funny stuff.

    There are some comments on the YouTube videos about it. But all very nice — just pointing it out. When people really like someone, they can be really kind. And I believe that it’s the second concert he’s done it. :))

    On the other hand, if Danny messed up his lyrics, people would be all over it. I’m starting to think that Danny’s getting some really unfair criticism. From the comments about “the speech”, I was expecting it to be really preachy, but the Vancouver version was only about 30 seconds and not that bad. And the “Adam want-a-be” commnents about the mike stand move or Danny’s boots and chains, are way off base. (Of course, I believe that Danny should just try to be Danny and not think about trying to be like Adam.)

    I have read a number of comments about how hard it is for anyone to follow Adam’s set, but I haven’t really seen any comments about how hard it must be to be between Alison and Adam. That must be really thankless.

  327. I just saw the SR vid from Vancouver – there seemed to be stuff raining all over that stage during that song! I would get a little annoyed if I were Adam and Allison (kind of messes their flow, not to mention they could trip over one of those things!)

    But the reaction was pretty perfect. I don’t quite know what was funnier – Allison kicking it to Adam, or Adam doing the toss over his head.

  328. Has anyone timed Adam and Kris’ sets with transitions posted above to see how long they were? I am at work and can’t watch now.

  329. What an education in the life and times of S. Bach. I think the reviewer just meant Adam might be more like imitation mayo (Bach) than the real deal (R. Plant). At least that’s what I picked even though he liked Lambert.

    Well, Kris will def get his day when he heads home. The Arkansas show is the only one so far that actually appears to be sold out. Although hopefully Kris fans aren’t paying $6,000 a ticket to sit in the front row. Maybe like the booing though, that story is exaggerated.

  330. I have read a number of comments about how hard it is for anyone to follow Adam’s set, but I haven’t really seen any comments about how hard it must be to be between Alison and Adam. That must be really thankless.

    I feel sorry for Danny. I am practicing my Salsa moves to show Danny some love. I am in the nosebleeds, so probably won’t have to see the weird mic-antics. He is a bumbling press disaster but he is not a bad dude, just clueless and sheltered, IMO. If I don’t like his music I go “buy the other guy’s CD”. That’d be The Fierce One’s.

  331. Has anyone timed Adam and Kris’ sets with transitions posted above to see how long they were? I am at work and can’t watch now.

    The Adam videos only have 1:15 minutes of WLL so if you add the time for the Adam intro video and rest of the song, Adam is one for 19.64.

    The Kris video cuts off some of the Kris video — about .12 seconds, so adding that Kris is on for 18.85.

    But 3.10 of Adam’s set is a duet with Alison.

    For comparison Danny has been falling between 13.45 and 15.23 minutes — Portland was the longest, Vancouver the shortest with the shorter speach.

  332. There are some straight singers that come to my mind who did seem to intentionally convey themselves as sex objects’“Mick Jagger, Michael Hutchens, and Jim Morrison are a few.

    Ooze sexiness and some level of androgyny. … Actually, androgynous sexy rock men seem to be almost more the rule than the exception, don’t they? (and a lot of rock women are a bit androgynous, too, come to think of it)

  333. I watched the bra incident on youtube and found it amusing and loved the way both Alison and Adam weren’t phased at all by it and kind of incorparated it into their performance .. but like others have said .. once is funny, twice will be a bit tiresome and any more than that will just be irritating. It’s like telling a joke over and over again .. it just stops being funny or entertaining if repeated again and again.

    Actually did someone thow some knickers at Adam not long after he threw the bra back into the audience? .. it looked like something small and white … could have been a stuffed animal but after spending the day watching the Human Slinky doing his thang I seem to have underwear on the brain.

    This short clip shows Adam’s reaction to the knickers (or stuffed creature) .. judging by his face I sense that it is underwear .. and that, whilst he may find it amusing he’s soon going to tire of it and see it as a distraction ….lol

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI6ZwIp_QWg

    Perhaps instead of counting the number of songs each idol sings or timing their sets, we could count the amount and quality of the underwear that’s thrown at them.

    Kris, being the winner should get the most and the most expensive .. lots of Victoria’s Secret stuff …. Sarver, being 10th, should just get the odd pair of bloke’s baggy grey Y-Fronts.

    Edit: Actually watching that close up it may not be knickers .. I don’t know what it is .. looks a bit like a small packet or box of something, but judging by his face it wasn’t candy or gum .. don’t tell me they’re throwing packs of condoms at him now …lol

  334. The Adam videos only have 1:15 minutes of WLL so if you add the time for the Adam intro video and rest of the song, Adam is one for 19.64.

    The Kris video cuts off some of the Kris video ‘” about .12 seconds, so adding that Kris is on for 18.85.

    But 3.10 of Adam’s set is a duet with Alison.

    For comparison Danny has been falling between 13.45 and 15.23 minutes ‘” Portland was the longest, Vancouver the shortest with the shorter speach.

    Oh, dear! I knew I shouldn’t have mentioned it ;-)

    But did you time the Don’t Stop Believing parts as well? And Adam is technically visible a few milliseconds before Kris since he’s taller so when they rise through the stage Adam is visible first ;-)

    And the next step of course is to create a spreadsheet of all the times for every concert, then determine the mean. Then we know who wins the title of EVERYTHING :rolleyes_wp:

    And I still maintain that, based on the vids, Danny seems to go on for a half hour vs. 5 minutes for Adam ;-)

  335. Edit: Actually watching that close up it may not be knickers .. I don’t know what it is .. looks a bit like a small packet or box of something, but judging by his face it wasn’t candy or gum .. don’t tell me they’re throwing packs of condoms at him now ‘ ¦lol

    You’re right – looks rather box shaped. Hmm. And his facial expression is rather funny to Allison – you can tell he’s already feeling “ok, enough with the throwing of random crap!”

  336. Well, Kris will def get his day when he heads home. The Arkansas show is the only one so far that actually appears to be sold out. Although hopefully Kris fans aren’t paying $6,000 a ticket to sit in the front row. Maybe like the booing though, that story is exaggerated.

    But Ticketmaster keeps releasing new blocks of tickets — like some Loge level seats in San Diego just showed up today. So it’s really hard to tell much more than Little Rock is sold out.

    There is only one show in Little Rock and only about 15,000 seats. Too bad for the AK fans. And there are a lot of resellers with tickets — including some individuals who bought tickets as an “investment”. Thankfully, AK fans aren’t paying crazy prices for these tickets — at least so far.

    There are really good seats still in a number of places, like Tulsa, OK. I expect Kris to have a lot of fans here, too. Since Memphis is just about sold out now — closest other venue to Little Rock.

    The Staple Center (holds over 20,000) is just about sold out, only bad seats are left. The best I could find for 2 seats was second to last section, Row 11, upper concourse (third tier — close to heaven).

    DC, Milwaulkie, Dallas, the 4 NY area shows, Memphis, Ft. Lauderdale, Charlotte, Aurburn Hills (MI), Hamilton ON and San Diego are also down to not so good upper tier seats thru Ticketmaster.

    Even some of the later shows, like Rosemont, IL Sept 2 and Grand Rapids, MI
    Sept 6 (Matt!) are already down to upper tier side seats thru Ticketmaster.

    Considering the economy and how expensive some of the nosebleed section seats are, I think the tour is doing really well.

  337. Oh, dear! I knew I shouldn’t have mentioned it ;-)

    Mary102 — I knew I shouldn’t have answered it. LOL at your comment!!

    I think/hope that the underwear throwing doesn’t continue but didn’t this also happen to David Cook and Clay a lot?

  338. mj,
    Have you posted Kirsten’s review of the Vancouver show somewhere?
    I’m finding our mj lurkers to be much more interesting to read than some of the pros.

  339. You’re right – looks rather box shaped. Hmm. And his facial expression is rather funny to Allison – you can tell he’s already feeling ‘ok, enough with the throwing of random crap!’ 

    lol .. yeah perhaps people should stick to throwing stuff he likes … like ice cream, accessories .. or money …lol

  340. Maybe I’m just not enough of a rocker chick, but I really hope that the future crowds don’t get too inspired by the bra throwing incident and start throwing stuff up there every night. I got a little worried after reading some posts in the Adam Lambert Idol Forum last night about how there is a big plan to throw a box of condoms on the stage.

    Ick! Please, don’t! I’m not registered to post under IDF so I didn’t respond to those postings last night (plus, I was too sleepy), but I would love it if someone would mosey on over there and say: JUST DON”T DO IT! PLEASE!

  341. Have you posted Kirsten’s review of the Vancouver show somewhere?
    I’m finding our mj lurkers to be much more interesting to read than some of the pros.

    Agreed! The reviews posted here are MUCH better than the pros :-) I’m very impressed!

  342. There are some straight singers that come to my mind who did seem to intentionally convey themselves as sex objects’“Mick Jagger, Michael Hutchens, and Jim Morrison are a few.

    Intentional never works, I think you are perceived as a sex object, you don’t convey it, you are perceived as sexy or you aren’t, the way you move on stage has to be the way you respond to the music and then people respond to you.

    The most successful male lead singers they say, as the cliche goes, are the women all want you and all the men want to BE you or maybe that should be amended to all gay men and straight women want you and all the straight men want to be you…….

  343. I got a little worried after reading some posts in the Adam Lambert Idol Forum last night about how there is a big plan to throw a box of condoms on the stage.

    I so hope they are not planning this sillyness at the one I’m attending.

  344. There are some straight singers that come to my mind who did seem to intentionally convey themselves as sex objects’“Mick Jagger, Michael Hutchens, and Jim Morrison are a few

    I’m not sure how much of their sex object act was intetional or just natural .. but I know that Michael Hutchens just ooooooozed sex appeal .. even off stage and in interviews .. he didn’t seem to be acting it just seemed to come natrual … I kind of feel the same way about Morrison .. but Jagger’s seemed a bit of an act .. I love his music but never found him particularly attractive or sexy .. to me Bowie and Marc Bolan had far more sex appeal than Jagger and it was far more subtle than the strutting of Jagger.

    I find Adam, like Bowie and Bolan, to be able to find that fine line between being effeminate yet still masculine .. he’s more in your face than Bowie and Bolan .. but whatever it is it still works for me … ha ha

  345. Condoms not good for the PG-edness of the standard AI tour audience, wait until the solo tour….even at rock concerts there are standards – I recall a large inflatable male member thrown on stage had the band and the rest of the crowd going WTF? Now Freddie M may have enjoyed that but…. At an Idol concert, that could cause heart attacks.

  346. Edit: Actually watching that close up it may not be knickers .. I don’t know what it is .. looks a bit like a small packet or box of something, but judging by his face it wasn’t candy or gum .. don’t tell me they’re throwing packs of condoms at him now ‘ ¦lol

    Astroglide, maybe?

  347. After bra-girl at the homecoming and now the bra thrown on stage, it’s a little worrying to think that this could become a trend. I mean, I am sure he thinks it is all part of the deal, and kind of funny at first, but it could get old very quickly. Maybe he could twitter, hey girls, no more bras!

    I think Allison’s response was hilarious (like, ok Adam, you deal with this!) They are so good together and just getting better each night. She seems so much more relaxed when he’s on stage with her.

    As far as Adam’s attractiveness, apart from all the obvious superficial things, what makes him interesting is the combination of his complexity and “I’m an open book”. I think any star has some mystery to them, and somehow Adam has that while apparently telling us everything there is to know about himself. I’m still not sure how he does that, but like his performances, it must come from some unconscious, internal place. He’s just mesmerizing.

    And thanks to everyone for posting links to photos and the videos! Much appreciated.

  348. I see a FEW comments questioning Alli’s bringin’ on the axe. It is a great tool/prop. She can play it, has played for some years. Her skill level? Good enough to hit the right cord when she tries. The fans love it with the guitar in hand, altho’ nitpickin’ wannabes and hypercritical Idol fans may disagree. Adds dimension to the perception her RS image in the mind of the average fan.

    Her effective use of the guitar will become more necessary as her career progresses, and employing the use of it NOW in live performance is the best practice she can get. Her skills will quickly improve. As a simple prop the ‘tar serves very well. In a set where she must exert much energy, the guitar helps anchor her with a purpose that does enhance the performance of “So What”. The production budget is thin for props, bands, dancers, backups, so, this simple tool serves it’s purpose well, and reinforces Alli’s star quality.

  349. Edit: Actually watching that close up it may not be knickers .. I don’t know what it is .. looks a bit like a small packet or box of something, but judging by his face it wasn’t candy or gum .. don’t tell me they’re throwing packs of condoms at him now ‘ ¦lol

    It looked like panties to me and judging from the sheepish look on Adam’s face it wasn’t candy.

    I don’t think it was condoms. I’ve heard reports about someone threatening to throw condoms at him though. I just hope they don’t do it during Slow Ride since the people who were outraged by a bra and panties flying near Allison will be apoplectic if condoms land anywhere in her vicinity. Do us all a favor and pick a different song if you absolutely have to do it.

  350. I think openbook-ness can be just as mysterious. It is up to you whether you find something you can relate to in that openness. You wonder, what makes this person so confident that he can afford to be so unaffraid of others looking into this soul. Is it an onion? Blackhole? Tunnel with light at the end?

    I think playiing an instrument can have two disparate effects on the audience. One, it allows the musician to connect with the audience indirectly. The audience sees the musician get completely absorbed in his/her art and feel like they gain a glimpse of his/her intimate world and are a part of it. Two, at times props hinder the musician from making an eye contact. Eye contact is a really powerful technique for captivating others. Both can be very effective in drawing audience in.

  351. Gossip Candy has close up of the JACKET they call it it the F!Jacket, it is truly spectacular.

    It’s fierce!

  352. I got a little worried after reading some posts in the Adam Lambert Idol Forum last night about how there is a big plan to throw a box of condoms on the stage.

    Oh God!!!!!!!!

  353. “I got a little worried after reading some posts in the Adam Lambert Idol Forum last night about how there is a big plan to throw a box of condoms on the stage. ”

    :confused_wp: :rolleyes_wp: :neutral_wp: :doh_tb: :dry_tb: :flush_tb: :guns_tb: :nono_tb: :thumbdown_tb:

  354. I had thought that Kris was playing rythym guitar on Bright Lights. Wrong. Finally a video that goes up close to the guitar, where it is obvious that he is in fact, playing that screaming LEAD. Utter coolness!

    I just saw that video!!! I had always assumed he was just strumming along, too. Gosh, what a great performance that song is. Noticed that the dang piano mic kept sagging and he had to keep pushing it up–must have been frustrating. But hen he got to have fun with the lead guitar. Looks like he is having the time of his life up there. Good for him!

  355. Gossip Candy has close up of the JACKET they call it it the F!Jacket, it is truly spectacular.

    It’s fierce!

    Fierce is good, but her meaning for the F is totally not fierce. Check out her dictionary. Me, I prefer fierce, cuz it is indeed that.

  356. I was reading another site and a poster said Adam got the loudest response and Danny was second. She is a Danny fan, so she may have been biased. She didn’t care for Adam’s set, saying he was not really a rocker but “theatrical”. She did say since the Portland show, Adam is the only one who has handlers, and the crowd outside gets manic over him. She said they don’t let Adam stay outside signing as long as the others. It seems the other contestants have more freedom than Adam.

  357. Reading more, a girl flew from Japan just to see Adam. I wonder if she was able to meet him.

  358. And this hilarious recap from a boy in IDF (Adam fan).

    http://idolforums.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=619147&view=findpost&p=20536287

    LOL this was really funny thank you for posting it!
    So I’m a little late in commenting but I’ve been keeping up with all of the threads, comments, and reports…thanks mj and thanks to all the commentators…and thanks to everyone who has posted the links to those amazing pictures of Adam..oh and LMAO at the bra incident! Adam and Allison looked like they were having fun with it and Allison did kick it at him (to instigate his response…that naughty girl lol) so it was all in good fun…I read that some ppl found it odd, disrespectful even that the bra thing happened when Adam was performing the duet with Allison but I realized it was because during the previous songs when Adam performs he never gets so close to the audience. During slow ride is when he started walking around, before he was more stationary because he was performing with the mic stand and with the chair during Mad World more towards the center of the stage so the person who threw it was waiting for Adam to come closer to the audience and it just happened to have happened lol during the slow ride duet (which I must say sounded GREAT as well as WLL and Starlight) I loved it all in fact, and, yes Adam has got some moves lol.
    He is very talented (his voice…omfg) he’s smart, poised and well-mannered and…do I really need to state that he’s sexy? I think that has been established as a fact now lol.

    I loved Allison’s set as well she really showed that she had a wider vocal range and she sounded great…Matt’s version of Georgia sounded great too…I’ve yet to listen to other performances though…I wanna save at least something for when I see the concert live.

  359. From twitter:
    Allison4Realzzz: Bras and thongs on stage in Canada while singing slow ride with Adam XD is def gana be smthn I’ll always remember from the A.I tour.. haha

    LOL ME, TOO !! Another rite of passage on the journey from Rock Star to Superstar.

  360. It certainly does seem like he needs much more protection than all the others, requiring two handlers at the signings. An attendee at the shows said he was the only one, and was whisked in and out. In one of the vids, I heard Adam saying, “I’m sorry,” to the fans numerous times.

  361. will, that recap is from a boy that is temporarily banned from that forum, so another person posted it for him.

  362. Reminder:

    Please keep this thread FOCUSED ON THE TOUR. I’m going back right now to delete all off-topic posts.

    1. Re-hashing last year’s competition is TOTALLY OFF TOPIC.

    2. Also, soliloquies on how and why you love your Idol belong on your fan forums. These threads are for discussion of the topic at hand.

    Thank you.

  363. will, that recap is from a boy that is temporarily banned from that forum, so another person posted it for him.

    Aha! Thanks for clearing that up.

  364. ADAM is a total performer in vancouver!! i love the videos!! WE LOVE ADAM!! i hope he visit Asia!!

  365. I’ve posted some of my photos from the Vancouver show as well as the meet and greet before and autograph session after on twitpic.com under avidor14 (sorry I’m kind of new to this so am not sure how to do the address thing, maybe someone can help me with it ?

  366. (sorry I’m kind of new to this so am not sure how to do the address thing, maybe someone can help me with it ?

    Maria, just right click on the address box with the URL, click on “copy,” then go to the comment box, right click and click on “paste.” That’s all there is to it.

  367. I got a little worried after reading some posts in the Adam Lambert Idol Forum last night about how there is a big plan to throw a box of condoms on the stage.

    Oh God!!!!!!!!

    Oh God indeed! Some people truly are lacking in brain power. That is beyond rude and tacky. I think anyone who throws anything on stage should be given the boot from the venue. Not only does it distract the performer, it can be a hazard if they don’t see it and trip or fall on it.

  368. Reminder:

    One MORE reminder. Keep the rehashing of the competition out of these tour threads please.

  369. Saw the SR vid again last night (this time with sound!), and another thing I loved about it – the fact that as Adam is doing the twirl over his head, he’s also hitting that high note! That was just beautiful!

    But yeah, I seriously hope we don’t have every copycat coming out of the woodwork now for every tour stop. Once was funny, but it will get old for the fans, and Adam and Allison, real fast.

  370. I asked this question in the headlines thread, but this is an abbreviated one: The Vancouver vids show the top 10 at less than peak condition, even Adam, imo. Does the concert deteriorate overall as the summer progresses and the top 10 just get burned out? Please say it isn’t so!! I realize that Adam at reduced strength is still pretty potent, but I’d rather get the full dose. And poor Kris could be a croaking frog by July 31, not to mention Danny and Megan who already show signs of strain. From previous tours, has anyone noticed less effective concerts as the summer wore on??

  371. I was on youtube watching another vid of the vancouver concert and the person who shot the vid captured some of the audiance and I was surprised to see how many men were there! (probably all husbands and fathers suckered into going).

  372. Relyec: I hope you don’t mind that I mentioned you and your link in the Claire’s Vancouver re-cap post thread. It was just too good not to share. :smoke_tb:

  373. YEAH I AGREE JUST TOO HOT> sry. didn’t know how to post the direct link tried the copy, paste thing. oh well. Thnx lizardino for fixin that for me.

  374. Lux
    will, that recap is from a boy that is temporarily banned from that forum, so another person posted it for him.

    Can’t say I’m surprised, considering some of the language he used and the general disrespect he showed for the Idols. I’m including Adam in that statement as well, even though the kid is clearly a very ardent fan. The “take your pants off too” bit was not cool, IMO. Adam is a singer, not a stripper.

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