Check out this video from Allison Iraheta. “Journey to Don’t Waste The Pretty” is a clip montage of Allison on the road–visiting radio and TV stations, performing on the Glam Nation tour, jamming with Orianthi and more.
I’m posting the unofficial you tube version for you twitter-free peeps, but if you’d like, there’s a way to tweet the vid to your time line. I’ll post both versions.
So, is this Jive’s idea of a music video for Allison’s latest single? (As in–she’s not really getting one) or is it just an additional promo thing, with a real music video to come?
Video after the JUMP…
At 1:55 you can see Jim Cantiello on the set of MTV News XD
This is like the video Jive made for David Archuleta for the song Touch My Hand, which was a super lame attempt at a single. (the song, and the effort by the label are both lame. Sorry to David.) I don’t know why Jive bothers to do this. Maybe in case the song does take off then they have something immediately available?
I’d never heard this song before (sorry–I know it’s an MJsBigBlog staple). This is a really good song, and she’s a great singer. Every time I hear a song by Allison Iraheta I think that if the lyrics were a little clearer her music would just take off. I don’t think people are willing to struggle with figuring out mumbly lyrics for a singer they aren’t loyal to yet. (Like Elton John’s Philadelphia Freedom back in the, what?, 70s? Super mumbly, but people loved him by then.)
Well, it says “The Journey to DWTP,” thats how Im taking it. Is this an official release Jive video? maybe.
I like the vid, a lot. A couple music vids came to mind, Guns n’ Roses – Paradise City, with sound check footage at Giant Stadium, Guitar Center visit in NYC, their flight in the Concord, and some footage off their gig at Castle Donington.
Another band that comes to mind is Mötley Crüe’s – Home Sweet Home, wow ….
Also, Bon Jovi – Wanted Dead or Alive, those were the days. 80’s, where vocals and guitars rule. Miss the 80s!!!!!
Allison’s vid has the spirit of these vids – as it shows how life on the road can be.
I think the problem is that people haven’t heard Allison’s music because the radio stations refuse to play it.
No body cared what the Sex Pistols were saying, they kicked ass. Rockers feel their music. Nobody would bring up “what are they saying” and still be alive or made fun of, lol. I remember having the lyrics all wrong for Nirvana, all of us. But the vibe hit you right between your shoulder blades.
I guess Im the weirdo around here, Im the rock guy, I belong on a different board, but I love Allison and her spirit which reminds me of the late 80s and early 90s rock.
Regarding a singer that people aren’t loyal to yet:
This petition to keep Allison and her band on the Glam Nation tour past July 20 has been circulating since yesterday:
If you enjoyed Allison opening the tour and would like others to have the same experience, or want to see her later in the tour, please consider taking a minute or two to sign this petition. If nothing else, you might be interested to read some of the comments.
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?glamtour&1
Rub,
I can’t understand the lyrics of 99% of the big hits in the pop world right now. Well, except for the ones that only have one line and keep repeating it over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.
jordison, I hear ya, so true.
Did you see the clip where Alli’s old Bassist Priscilla is in? I thought she was good, but Liz has the better vocals and harmonizes beautifully with Allison in Scars into DWTP. Now I want her to do all of Scars and show her beautiful softer tone.
Why do you have to come here and bring some common sense into this? ;)
I like the vid, regardless of if it’s official or not. It benefits the song, since I don’t see this song fitting a story video, it shows off Orianthi on guitar and Allison’s fun personality.
Jordison,
I think there’s a big difference between understanding the lyrics (i.e. what they mean) and not being able to fully hear the lyrics. I think Rub’s point is that… well just listen to AC/DC’s Back in Black. They do repeat the chorus over and over, but it’s the SOUND of the singer’s voice that people love more than being able to understand/hear every single lyric.
That being said, I think Allison’s bigger problem is that she’s female and trying to do rock. It’s just hard to accomplish.
Why?
@jordison
I can theorize all day about why, but it’s just something about the genre… White Guys With Guitars, plus either a guttural Nickelback-like voice, or the other spectrum like AC/DC in those high falsettos. While pop appears to like new & innovative things, for whatever reason I think rock likes their basic formula.
If you think about the most successful female artists like Heart & Pat Benatar – their singing styles could have worked on pop songs. The only difference was the band backing them. The sole anomaly is Joan Jett, and Allison isn’t nearly as gruff/rough/husky/raspy/guttural as Joan Jett IMHO.
My final theory – rock demands street cred, in the form of live concerts for a long period of time. So it’s great that Allison is on the Glam Nation tour, but I don’t think she’ll really take off in the rock genre until she headlines her own tour at least once. Look at how long it took Daughtry!
Very nice.
I don’t know if this holds for every genre, but the best songs are generally those in which the voice blends with the music as if being another instrument, regardless of what the heck the song is saying. Of course, if the lyrics say something interesting, it just makes the song better.
Easier said than done. But I think Alli has the talent.
She’s not in the rock genre, she’s pop-rock, like Pink, like Kelly Clarkson, like Katy Perry, etc. We would like for her to go rock but that’s not really what her album is.
BTW, I agree that women doing rock and being accepted by a predominantly male audience is really hard. Just think, why the hell is someone like Orianthi doing pop when she should be doing hard rock?
God, I love that girl. It’s a freaking CRIME that she’s not getting any more attention than she is.
I like it, it is much better than that cheesy video they did for her first single. It looks like Orianthi is singing. I thought she just played guitar on the new single?
I frankly think one of Alli’s biggest problems is that all 3 19 artists from season 8 are competing in the same genre…i am not saying that 19 is favoring one of kradison over the other, or that jive is favoring kris over alli…..but the truth is (no pun intended) that even though idol is over and there are lots of artists out there yadda yadda yadda i think top 40 stations were unlikely to play all 3 of kradison at the same time…don’t forget daughtry also had/has new music out at the time, as did Kelly C, and Cook’s CBTM had not totally disappeared…..most top 40 stations have 10 songs in heavy rotation…are they gonna give 5 of those spots to prior idol artists? no way….someone was going to get left out and it was unlikely to be Kris, the AI winner, or Adam. Its not fair, and Alli is terrific, but I think Idol glut/fatigue/too many in the market at the same time has played a big factor in Alli’s difficulty breaking into pop radio. Hopefully in a few years (when idol is over) it won’t make a difference anymore.
OK, I was in them middle of writing a long reply on what is rock,etc., but I just read in the petition that someone is flying in from Slovenia and hopes to see Allison’s 20 minute set at Costa Mesa.
I guess that trumps me.
I also honestly think she needs to be out there with someone not associated with Idol. while she’s getting touring experience, since she’s opeining for someone from Idol from her season it’s not exposing her to new crowds. Even if Adam’s fans love her, and many do, they already know her.
Yup. Even though they used a bunch of youtube clips and stuff.
Btw, women always had it harder/tougher than the guys in rock music. Its actually a little easier now than it used to be, but still difficult.
Allison needs a rock album first(though she can still get away with this one), and start pushing her way into the rock scene. Just get in there talk to the guys. Let her do a rock festival with a couple songs in front of thousands of guys and rip it in their faces. She did it to me, Im hooked. Just one break. In my view, she has more “rock cred” than the other past idol guys. Any guy who has listened to her, like the Maddens did and Howard Stern, or just hang with her and she’s got ya – she’s got the swagger. Its gonna take a great deal of work though with good material, but she needs to be a go getter and take chances. 19 and Jive might have other ideas.
No doubt. But I also suspect that 19 tried to do that and there just weren’t any options. this is a terrible summer for tours. and Alli, at age just turned 18, may have been a tough sell to the types of acts that I have seen bandied about as hopeful tourmates.
I still think the key for Allison is getting radio play time. And, I think the whole concept of an ex-Idol quota may be valid, unfortunately. This albatross around her neck is really starting to get to me. What if Allison had tried out for Season 9? What if she had won? Quite possible, right? No disrespect intended to Crystal (did I forget Lee?). What if Kelly Clarkson and Carrie Underwood had been contestants in the same year? Would one of them forever be labeled a “loser?” Idol is an entertaining reality show, I happen to like it, but when it’s over, it’s over. After that, talent should prevail regardless of the outcome of the show.
In contrast, So You Think You Can Dance offers a cash prize to the winner, but not winning in no way hinders the careers of the non-winners. Adam Shankman hired 18 or 20 ex-SYTYCD dancers for the last Oscar show, and I don’t recall anyone criticizing him for overloading the floor with SYCYCD alums.
Very frustrating. Allison has talent, and she and her music should be given a chance.
Allison is adorable and her voice is really wonderful, she deserves to have all the promotion possible – common now Jive! I really hope that the petition helps to keep her on the tour, and when Allison and Orianthi join forces – watch out the girls are ripping! Love how cute Allison looks with the short full skirt and her wild red hair, go Girl!
Agreed that Allison needs to mingle with non-Idols to get a bigger fanbase, and to put out a legitimate rock album to get more cred.
In a follow-up to my previous post, I also thought about this interesting point: moreso than many other genres (feel free to disagree), I feel like rock is harder to “break into” – but also enjoys a significantly loyal fanbase once you’re in. This is in terms of total sales potential, concert attendance, and airplay.
Question for debate, and I don’t know the answer:
Has Orianthi broken into the world of rock yet? I know she’s greatly admired by Santana, played with Eric Clapton, Steve Vai, etc., but is she considered a “rock artist?”
Or, is she considered pop?
Rub, I forgot to respond to your comment about Liz.
I think she fits in beautifully and enhances the band. I’ve looked at a few clips of her with her band back home, where’s she’s lead singer, and I really like her. Also, she has a very pleasant personality.
Too bad Adam gave her a cold! (Sorry for this inside joke, which requires reading the Baltimore tour thread)
My personal opinion – I don’t think Orianthi is a “rock artist” yet, same as Allison. I think she is seen as “a great guitar player” and that’s about it. Part of the problem, at least for me, is that I don’t think she’s got the voice to be frontman. That’s one of the reasons I’d like to see her and Allison team up. Every great rock artist includes a guitar somewhere. Even AC/DC’s fame is credited at least as much to the lead guitarist Angus Young as it is to the vocalist Brian Johnson (and Bon Scott before him).
So much like Heart, I think Allison and Orianthi could only benefit by teaming up to make one kick-ass girl rock team.
Approaching 600 on the petition. Can we reach 1000 tonight?
Absolutely agree.
It’s actually starting to really piss me off about how radios aren’t playing her..
Yes luv, the pissed off club has many members.
I actually like this, but its more of a video compilation but its cool…I just wish the song would get radio play…its a really good song…I just dont get it…and her record label isnt doing much…they need to strategize and figure something out cuz its really a waste of talent and a waste of a perfectly good radio-friendly song…the only good single they’ve put out imho.
Rock and Triple A are the two formats where Idol alumns have had the most trouble. Recently Carly Smithson and her band have had success on the Rock chart and it’ll be interesting to see what happens there. For Allison, if she can get a really tight band and some good music, I would love to see her make a charge at the Rock world – but what she has out there right now is very Pop oriented. I don’t think Jive know what to do with her to try and go in the Rock direction.
Dammit… I want radio to play DWTP. And I want Allison for the whole GN tour. And I do think this tour is really good for her, giving her lots of performance experience. Play the song, radio!
FruMiddleton, you know your ac/dc. GnR covered Whole lotta Rosie, its good. I agree with you and support you completely with your notion about a frontman and his axeman. You said Johnson/Angus Young and it its true across the board. John/Sambora. David Lee Roth/Ed Van Halen,Eddie Vedder/Mike McCready, Plant/Paige. It was the crazy Axl snake dancing and the cool Slash at the edge of the stage with the top hat and hair in his face with a cigarette dangling in lip, busting out a solo with his right leg pumping on the crybaby-wahwah pedal.
That was the spectacle everybody craved
Thats how it was done.
Except Ori is 100x the phenomenal guitarist than Nancy Wilson, who played rhythm, not lead, might I add.
Allison is awesome! Seriously, she should have won AI8!!
Rub,
Re: AC/DC Thanks! XD Angus is such a stage spectacle and I love him for it, ditto your comment about the dynamic between Axl & Slash.
And since you clarified the comparison to Nancy Wilson, perhaps a more apt comparison is not a wish for a new Heart, but a new Runaways?
She looks so teeny. I really hope she hits her stride and finds success, she’s so talented.
I think that with the little promotion she’s had (with the exception of her appearances on Ellen’s and George Lopez’s shows) shes lucky to even be touring with an artist that’s pretty well known…its obvious that she has the talent and anyone who’s bought her album knows the material is good, therefore I think (and rightly so) its her labels fault that she hasnt had more exposure…they havent worked hard enough to get her better gigs, shit Adam is doing more for her than her label at this point, nor have they chosen the right singles for her….she is clearly made to sing rock music, yet because of her age they give her songs like FIBO which is not catered to ppl who like Janis Joplin and such…they need to get over the fact that shes young and promote her as a rock artist…at this point she isnt an established pop act nor does she have any real credibility in the music industry as a rock singer…I dont think its because she’s female, I think its because she’s young and inexperienced and is just going with the flow of things without demanding more from her label…she didnt even get a video for her second single…it was a mistake to just bail on it, especially since its proven that music videos can create buzz for an artist, but hey Im no “expert” although it really just takes common sense to realize what is happening.
I agree with you so much! In this day & age of YouTube, music videos are so important! Consider this: when songs don’t have music videos, fans take that as an impetus to create their own “music video” from other stuff! Then you’ve got the people who create music videos/slide shows using songs – if one of those videos is successful enough, it may encourage people to check out that artist. That’s happened to me a number of times.
Wow! I like that idea! I really hope that Jive hangs on to Allison. The girl is super talented and has such an incredible rock voice that it would be ashamed to lose her. All she needs is a few years of singing and performing under her belt to be taken seiously as rock singer like Pink, IMO.
I don’t think Pink is considered a Rock singer. She’s a pop rock artist with a lot of cred as a singer.
Wow, I really like the video, and wouldn’t mind if it ended up being the official video for this song. I love all the clips from different performances of the song, and seeing Orianthi doing her thing in there too is really cool, imo. I’d buy it if it were for sale. j/s
Allison’s definitely got the voice for rock, but if she wants any kind of real success, she’d be wise to stick with pop/rock, ‘cuz rock radio is really fragmented and audience numbers are small, so even if she did have success there, she wouldn’t reach very many people, imo. She’s better off trying to stick it out and break into CHR/HAC/AC radio where the audience numbers are huge. Plus, once you are on Idol, there is no way rock radio is going to accept you. Yes, Carly and her band have had some success on rock radio, but last time I checked, they weren’t doing so well anymore. So it would be a total waste of effort to try and get Alli radio play there, imo. YMMV etc.
However, I do love the idea of Alli and Orianthi teaming up and recording together, as long as Alli is the one singing, lol. Ori’s a great guitar player, but not much of a singer, especially right beside the power house that is Allison Iraheta, lol.
I like the video, especially the black and white footage of the current band. I always think Allison looks great in black and white for some reason. And I like that they all look so relaxed. It makes me think they’re not too worried about what’s going on, they’re just having a good time – not stressing out about her career like some of us are. It makes me feel good to see that. I also really like to see Orianthi playing guitar – it helps me connect better to that part of the song. It was impressive to see all the things Allison’s done since idol, she’s definitely been busy.
I like the Alli/Ori combo, too, but what happens to Dave in that scenario? He and Allison seem to be pretty close. C’est la vie? (BTW – don’t forget a couple of other singer/guitarist combos – Mick Jagger/Keith Richards and Roger Daltrey/Pete Townshend.)
I’m not too worried about Allison right now. I kind of think of her as ‘in development’ at the moment… finding her place in the world. I do hope she gets to continue longer with Adams tour. I think she’s getting a lot of good buzz from that and some great experience. If she’s able to write some songs while she’s out there, even better.
Yeah rub, you’re a weirdo, but we still love you… :)
So very tired now… going to sleep.
ETA: Soooper disappointed about the lack of pants/suspenders videos from last night! (Although I did see a partial Robot Love on You Tube.) I definitely wanted to test the pants theory! I’m hoping some other vids will still turn up.
I agree with this. I really like this video.
Of course it would be neat to see a different music video, but I do really like this. I think a lot of what’s entertaining about Allison is just her. Be it clips of her being goofy, sweet, or performing, that’s what I like to see most.
I hardly ever go back to watch clips of her FIBOU video, but I’ll go back to see her live performances and some interviews.
Although the FIBOU video is good.
For those of you who weren’t in on the discussion from a previous thread, the pants theory is this: some of us think that Allison performs looser and at a slightly more frenetic level when she wears this outfit, simply because it gives her more freedom of movement (and some think it makes her feel sexy).
Attention night owls, west coast, and international Allison fans:
As of this moment the petition to keep Allison on the tour past July 20 is approaching 800 signatures.
Is it still possible to get to 1000 tonight? How about 900 for the night? If you already signed, tweet (or whatever) your friends.
Let’s keep Allison on the tour!
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?glamtour&1
Uh… Pretty sure I’ve heard Daughtry on my local rock radio, but I understand your other point about “rock radio” having lower audience numbers. I once again point to the street cred theory – fans are more likely to spend the money on a concert, buy the CDs/DVDs/downloads of their fave groups, and then never turn on the radio. I know a couple people like this, and used to be one of them. Now I’m listening to it mainly to gauge the market I’m trying to break into – admittedly it’s only depressing me, but my point remains.
With all the conversation I forgot to comment on the video.
I like the video – just because I like the video. I don’t know if it will be the biggest commercial success, but we Allison fans seem to love it. And I think that’s good.
for jordison & rub, I posted links to Robot Love and one picture of Allison with her seethrough shirt and suspenders in the Acoustic Holiday thread. It’s all I’ve been able to find for DC…bummer.
Thanks. Don’t forget alli lurker (not to be confused with AL lurker:))
ETA – Why did my smiley face not smile? I know, because we haven’t hit 1000 signatures on the petition yet. Please folks, if you haven’t yet, sign the damn thing!
Thank you.
I signed it already :)
Allison’s guitarist and keyboardist signed and RTed it.
PRM, I have no doubt about you!
I think I saw Liz’s name on the first page also.
Signed!
She really seems to be enjoying being on tour, and, being as objective as I can, is much more entertaining than Orianthi.
Sorry if I am late to the party, but why 19 ending her run July 20? Is there a new act opening?
This seems to be a complete mystery to everyone. If they were planning to announce an extension, it sure would’ve been nice if some kind of communication would have come out by now, implying that something is in the works.
Nothing’s wrong with Allison. Her hair, her image, her rock/pop sound, her mumbling… it all works for her. If radio doesn’t play her, it’s a matter of a lack of major label backing (yes, Jive could have done more to push the single), song quality (need the right sound to connect with the audience) and…luck. I’m not worried right now, but I really hope she gets more attention soon..cuz I love this girl.
I signed the petition and so did my dad (even though he doesn’t know it!)I live in Southern California and want to go to a show. There are three here next month. I e-mailed the one in Costa Mesa and they told me she was not scheduled. I just don’t understand the logic of just dropping her off halfway through the tour. It would be great if we could get a few thousand signatures.
I have to agree that the biggest problem for Allison right now is radio play. I was just looking at the radio play updates and I noticed the huge audience impressions that Adam and Kris get for their songs and in different radio formats. Does anyone know the highest AI Allison got for FIBOU? I don’t think it ever reached more than a few hundred thousand. WWFM is near 20 million on HAC. If JIVE would just push the song. They did it for LLWD I don’t see why they can’t for DTWP. As for this video, if they have all of this behind the scenes stuff filmed they should release that footage with audio in small clips. I would be thrilled to see a minute or two of the actual recording of DTWP or any of the other scenes.
Just went over the 900 mark. Keep em coming folks!
Question: I’ve posted the petition info over on the tour threads several times, but haven’t seen any posts over there acknowledging the subject. I don’t necessarily interpret this as lack of response, as people certainly could sign the petition without posting a message. I expect this has been the case.
Still, I wonder if this is getting through over there; or is it getting lost in all the Adam-related traffic? I don’t want to come on with an “attitude”, as like I said many people may have signed without advertising it.
Any suggestions on strategy to make sure the petition is publicized in the most effective way, without coming on too strong or being obnoxious?
I also signed the petition and so did my wife (even though she doesn’t know it!). She and I will be going to the Costa Mesa concert (7/28), however. As far as your e-mail, I would be curious as to who replied. I talked to the Guest Services Manager (really nice guy!) a couple days before tickets went on sale, but he said that he wouldn’t have any inside information about the booking. However, he said that things can change even up to the last minute (except for the headliner, of course).
Last time I checked Costa Mesa is still advertised as Orianthi opening for Adam. However, Ori’s official website (and we know how reliable these things are)shows a gap in her schedule between July 25 and July 30. So, what does this mean? Who knows?
Just point out how much Adam’s concerts will suck without her. That should do it. :-)
I wouldn’t know. I think I would post a short message every 100 posts or so, just so that it gets the lurkers and doesn’t annoy the regulars.
While we are at it, maybe there should be a petition for her to go to Japan with Adam. Maybe Japan would be more open to someone like her.
That would mean a message about every 5 minutes. :)
ETA – I think Allison should go to Japan and England. (Except I would want some more chances to see her here locally)
Cute short Ori-Alli video blog just posted at alliholics:
http://www.alliholics.com/2010/06/30/orianthi-video-blogs-with-allison-iraheta/
Ori does these regularly, but I think this is the first time she’s done one with Allison.
Jordison I think you write great posts in the concert threads all of the time. I would continue to post kind reminders in the concert thread maybe once at the beginning of the thread and later toward the end of the concert. I have a feeling that even though there has not been a lot of posts written about it that the Adam fans have signed it. As for the e-mail I went back to look at my mail and the response got lost. It says something about a communication error and anti-spam. Anyway, the e-mail I sent was from June 8th to the address provided on the pacamp.com website and I remember the response was very short simply saying that she would not be there. If what the guy told you is true and there can be last minute changes maybe this petition will work. My concern is that it will be too late to add her because that would require more time to be alloted. Then again maybe Orianthi is supposed to get an even longer set (which if it is she will be up there as long as Adam) and they could just cut her back (so Allison can have a whole 20 minutes!)
Thanks Lorelei, I just don’t want to be looked upon as a pest on the tour thread.
Do you know the total running time of the concert, with all 3 acts? I believe Costa Mesa has a neighborhood sound curfew at 10:00 PM, although the Guest Services gentleman didn’t sound too concerned about it. He said 10-10:30, or thereabouts. The added 7/27 concert starts at 7:30, whereas the 7/28 starts at 8:00. I know the 7/28 sold out almost immediately, and should be crazy with 8500 hysterical people. There are still tickets available for the 7/27 show. The fair is dark that day, which is a huge advantage as far as traffic congestion.
If they were to add Allison to only the 7/27 show because of the extra half hour before curfew, but without telling anybody in advance, I’d shoot myself (OK, not really, but you know what I mean).
jordison, since you mentioned my name (hey there cousin alli lurker!)and I want to see you smile again (and see Alli continue to tour with the Glam man), I signed the petition. Only 91 signatures to go to get to 1000!
Thank you AL Lurker!
So AL Lurker is an Alli lurker. What do you think about that, alli lurker?
I love Allisooon!!!!!! i’m her biggest argentinian faaannn!!!!!!! Her music is so great, she is awsome and that video is so cute!!! She’s wonderful, I hope there’s another album comin, can’t wait to hear more of her… :D
Well alliholic4life from Argentina, have you helped us to reach our goaoooooooooooooooooool of surpassing 1000 signatures on the petition? :)
OK, jordison, now my husband signed it too (and he knows it LOL).
We both want to see Allison in St. Petersburg in September. Fingers crossed!
PS Have been requesting DWTP at local radio, but no luck so far…
will keep trying.
My pleasure! Anything to help the red-headed rocker! 911 signatures now thanks to riskylady and riskyhusband! :-)
Almost time for tonight’s concert too!
And thank you riskylady and riskyhusband!
Ummm… this could be a problem… hahahaha. But seriously, I welcome all newcomers to Allison threads (so sick of jordison… not!)
LOL, LDR! I miss you… nice to see a couple of posts from you, anyway. Hope the kid’s doing well. Do you want to tell us if its a boy or a girl?
jordison – I’m going to the mountains for a week and won’t have internet access (withdrawal tremors have already begun). You’ll have to point me to the best videos when I get back. Don’t let AL Lurker steal my identity! (BTW – Do you have a background in telethons, pledge drives or fundraisers? You’d be good at it! :))
PRM – If you leave before I get back, have a great Allison experience. Be sure to stalk her and get a picture and autograph. Tell her I said hi. Can’t wait to hear all about it. (ETA: Videos are greatly appreciated!)
No, I have no experience in telethons, pledge drives, or fundraisers. I just got sick of sitting her passively waiting for something negative to happen. If Allison doesn’t get added for the rest of the dates, at least we can say we’ve tried. But, to be clear, I did not initiate the petition. I didn’t have the foggiest idea how to do this. The real credit goes to Erika Cardona, who set the whole thing up. I hope she knows how to convey this information over to 19E, and when would be the proper cutoff time in order to implement any changes in schedule, etc. I’m just sitting here at a keyboard.
Speaking of the keyboard alli lurker, our son is coming home to visit for a while Friday, and I’m going to have to pretend not to be a dysfunctional crazy person while he’s here. So, my activity on this board will probably drop way off for a while. Not to be interpreted as loss of interest. Hope this is a valid excuse, unlike that flimsy excuse of LoveDaRocker – having a newborn in the house. :)
Interesting. I just posted on tonight’s tour site, and there’s been an immediate spike in signatures. OK. Still need 79 to make 1000.
Adding more dates for Allison is a no brainer, especially with Orianthi around so that they can do the single together – its perfect. But who knows how all the contracts and things are set up. Hopefully they can get it worked out. I’m grateful to you (jordison) for being such a cheerleader and I’m happy to see other fans who love Allison as much as we do.
So how long is a while? Weeks, days, minutes, seconds? :) Hope you don’t disappear like you did last time.
Honestly I don’t know. He just graduated from college and will be going back and forth between here and NorCal to get ready for a job in September. Maybe a week or 2 this time. I expect him to be here July 28 for Costa Mesa, however, as we have a ticket for him.
I should still be able to post occasionally while he’s here, not just as obsessively. I’m sure it will actually improve my mental health. :)
Yes, and I’m looking forward to breathing fresh air!
ETA: Happy your son has a job – a successful launch! Congrats…
Yeh, we’re really proud. It’s an Americorps assignment for 1 year. Won’t pay much but it’s great community service and will be good preparation for grad school, which is his goal.
Stuck at 929. This is like watching the hands of a clock move. Think I’ll break for dinner and SYTYCD (west coast feed).
ALR: the kid is a boy and is doing great. His name starts with the letters A and L, seriously. Just a coincidence though.
I love the Ali-Ori video. I remember ALR and I blogstorming about ways Alli could give something to her fans, and putting short videos was probably the one we liked the most..
Orianthi had a series of videos showing guitar riffs. Alli could have vocal riffs, like 30 seconds of songs she love.
Anyhoo, back to not sleeping.
Wow Jordison you really got things going tonight with the petition. Great work! I have no clue when or where the petition should be sent,but I would think it would have to be soon in order to make any possible changes. With my luck it will work, but they will not be able to schedule her for any of the extra July dates. I would still be thrilled for Allison though :)
I am not sure how long the concert is exactly. I thought I read a comment in the tour thread once that there was about 2 hours of time between the start of the show and when Adam came on so that would be close to 3 hours.
Thanks Lorelai. I just got a little concerned because the signatures had slowed down to a snail’s pace. When people started to respond on the Norfolk thread I just kinda went with the flow and the energy just kept building. It’s nice to see so much support for Allison.
I still want to make it clear that this is not my petition. Erika Cardona is responsible for generating it and deserves the credit. Without her nothing would have happened. I’m just an MJ poster and Allison fan who really wants to see this happen.
When all is said and done, I have no idea if this petition will result in Allison getting the additional dates. I really hope so. But if not, then two things are for sure:
1. Allison will know there are a lot of fans who think the world of her, want to see and hear her, and really want her to succeed. That alone is good.
2. 19E/Jive will know there will be a lot of really pissed off people if they don’t respond to this petition.
Allison’s youngest fan sings FIBOU:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PsAUp8iLis
OK, I know this thread is crazy old, but what the hell….
A little boy, sweet! LDR, jr.!
I’m getting really excited about seeing Allison on Saturday. My husband told me he’s excited to see her, too! Yay! I hope she saves something for us… Denver is the last of a three show stretch where she’s doing the extended set. And I hope she wears pants! Can’t wait!
Probably won’t be doing any stalking, with the husband and all. Might check out the lobby at intermission, though…. just in case!
alli lurker,
There is not even a remote chance that anyone would be checking this old thread for new posts. :)
Seriously, I don’t even know where to go anymore for a good old fashioned Allison discussion.
alli lurker, enjoy the Denver concert, and please submit a very long detailed posting on every one of Allison’s numbers in her long set – smack in the middle of the hundreds of Adam posts.
BTW, It looks like the petition might have worked. Allison has been added to many of the later date concerts. Of course, not Costa Mesa. Oh well, maybe a last minute reprieve?…
LOL, I guess an Allison thread is never truly dead until a new one has begun (and even then its questionable!)
Its true, but I’ve been thinking maybe we should move… the concert threads here are impossible – Alli fans are pretty much ignored by Adam fans (and the number of posts is ridiculous). PRM would probably be happy if we posted on Alliholics, but it looks pretty dead over there. IDF is a possibility, I guess.. that one seems to be the most active, but it seems like a younger crowd. TWoP and Allison’s official site are no-go’s for me. What do you (jordison) think?
Oh I plan on posting something, but I don’t know how long or detailed it will be. Maybe I’ll post it here too, so you don’t have to page through all that other crap. Hopefully I’ll remember all the songs she does (it’ll be SO hard because she’s doing the extended set – jealous? :)). I’m thinking of going to the Paramount Cafe for happy hour before the show at the Paramount Theatre – gotta get in a concert frame of mind. I feel guilty that I’m not planning to do videos, but my seats are near the top of the venue, so I don’t think they would be any good. I sure hope someone else does, though!
That sucks! Maybe she has something else going on. I think she would/will be there if she could/can.
Well alli lurker, alliholics isn’t too bad on the discussion board, but posting is very, very sporadic. Alliholics twitter is all “happy talk”, and besides I’m not a twitterer, tweeter, whatever. Alli’s official board is really, really lame, and some of the posts I read over there were borderline creepy – so I stopped going over there. IDF seems to be full of doom and gloom pessimists – don’t need that either. So, I still find MJ’s to be the best option. That is, provided there is an occasional Allison thread to latch onto.
Regarding the Adam fans, if you can get over their OTT obsession with everything Adam, many of them are quite supportive of Allison (when they think about her). I managed to get a really enthusiastic level of support the one night we really pushed for signatures on the petition.
Regarding Costa Mesa, I was thinking that if Allison doesn’t get to perform maybe she could do DWTP with Ori for the So You Think You Can Dance results show on 7/29. Probably more likely though that they’d have Adam perform in an effort to even further frustrate all of us Alli fans.
As far as the song list for Alli’s Denver set – maybe you could just record the titles. Sadly, sometimes it’s difficult to even get that level of information.
You know, at one point I was seriously considering going to the show in Kansas City tonight, Wichita tomorrow, and Denver on Saturday. I could have flown to KC for only $59 on Frontier, then Wichita is only 3 hours from there. I thought Wichita might be fun because its GA and the venue looks pretty cool – it looks like a spaceship! and it has one of those old fashioned band shells on the stage. http://www.thecotillion.com/history.php
The whole thing would have cost a bundle (for an opening act!) and we already spent a bunch on the New Orleans thing. Wishing I was there tonight, though….
Trying not to look at the thread or hear what she’s singing – maybe you could tell me the general feel of the show? How’s the crowd?
Hmmm… I’ve never thought that… I wonder if we’re looking at the same thing? (I’ve noticed that they seem to like to talk about different body parts and how they look in different clothes!)
Re: Adam fans: Really, the big problem is the volume on those threads. Its crazy and no fun if you’re not interested in most of it.
The tweets indicate a lively, enthusiastic crowd, excellent venue, good sound, but marred by a group of anti-gay (and anti-Semitic?) protesters outside. What a shame.
The tweets for Allison were extremely positive. Once again, however, very little in the way of complete video clips of any of her songs. Just some snippets so far.
Very frustrated tonight. Watched SYTYCD results show, where they featured some young female singer who evidently 2 weeks ago was completely unknown until her song was used by one of the choreographers for a competition number. They said she sold over 100,000 copies in the last 2 weeks because of that exposure. So, they invited her back to perform live, accompanied by some of the show’s all-star dancers. She sucked.
SYTYCD is a 19E production. Still hoping they will get Allison or some of her music on the show before this season is over.
Thanks for the concert update – it sounds like a great evening for her. I hope we have a good crowd here, too. Its supposed to be hot here on Saturday – maybe break 100 for the first time this summer. Luckily its a dry heat and it cools way down at night, but I hope the AC works well in the venue!
I haven’t been watching TV at all this summer. I seriously wish I could turn off cable for the summer and not pay for it. So what song do you think would be the best one to use on SYTYCD? I don’t think DWTP is very “dancey”, but I suppose they can dance to anything. I’d say BMU is her best dance song, not sure they should use that one, though. D could be a good one! I’d love to see that!
SYTYCD brings in guest performers to fill time on the results show, much like Idol. I think an Alli-Ori DWTP would be great in that spot, and it would plug two 19E performers at the same time.
D is for Dangerous would be a good opening group number, I think.
Trouble Is would be an excellent competition couples contemporary number.
Scars would be a good contemporary solo number.
Did you see this?
http://onthewaterfront.com/music-festival/
Yet to be verified, but I’ll bet the only accurate information is that Allison will appear in place of Orianthi at this particular performance. One more thing to make me crazy.
Just in case you miss this on another thread or over at Alliholics/Allison’s website:
http://www.alliholics.com/2010/07/16/backstage-video-allison-introduces-her-band/
I see D as more of a couples dance. Yes – Trouble Is would be good, too!
I think that Waterfront Music Festival thing might just be poorly written. But who knows? I’d be going crazy, too, if I were you. Very frustrating….
Love the video. I hope she keeps doing them. The whole band seems to be pretty funny. They must have a great time.
alli lurker –
How was the Denver concert? Can’t wait to read your report. Was Still Breathing included in the set? We seem to have the set list figured out except for that one.
Here is the reason I keep mentioning SYTYCD as a great opportunity for exposure. BTW, the tour has open dates on both July 22 and July 29, which are Thursday results show nights, and they’ll be on the west coast.
This woman’s live performance was so “pitchy” it was painful to listen to it.
Lyndsey Parker’s article:
http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/realityrocks/376770/so-you-think-you-can-dance-changes-unsigned-singer-christina-perris-life/
Live performance by Christina Perri:
http://video.yahoo.com/watch/7885149/20902088
Hey jordison – I think I’ll write my thoughts here…
First off the crowd was pretty CREEPY – “women with issues” is what my husband said. I really can’t get it out of my head… never seen anything like it here in Denver. I seriously wish she could open for someone else. And I would totally understand if that is the reason Orianthi cancelled. That being said, I had a very nice conversation with a gay couple sitting next to me.
It was surreal for me when Allison came out. After seeing her on video for so long, it was just a great experience to see her there live. I was in the balcony and felt a bit disconnected – really, really wished I was on the floor. I stood for all but maybe two songs. I may have been the only one in my section who was standing, but I didn’t care. I couldn’t see much of the floor from my seat, but it looked like most people were sitting – until she asked them to stand up – which they did in a wave when she walked past them (that was very cool).
She was a bit hoarse. You could tell when she talked (which she did a lot more than I thought she would) and also when she sang No One Else. I think she got the most applause for DWTP and Heartbreaker. During Heartbreaker there was someone in the front row (may have been security?) who she said was “too cool to sing”, then she said, “it’s okay, I’ll sing it for you” and she kept coming back and singing right to his face.
Most of it was a blur for me, but I attempted to record much of it on my little pocket camera – don’t know how it turned out yet. I wish I would have brought a better camera, because nobody said anything to anyone recording. I hope someone took some good video, because I want to see what I saw!
I enjoyed Adam more than I thought I would, but he started sounding like a munchkin about halfway through. We left just as his encores were starting. I hope the loud shrieking at that point didn’t damage my ears. (I had earplugs, but didn’t put them in – *very* smart!) My husband said Adam has a good voice, but wasn’t his cup of tea (sounds familiar, huh?). He also said Adam’s show was “exceptionally gay”.
That’s all for now… maybe I’ll think of some other stuff later.
Oops almost forgot… Still Breathing, yes she sang it.
I posted on the concert thread, too – at 11:42 am, to help you find it.
Wanted to clarify about the crowd… I think of Colorado as a natural, granola type of place. To see a lot of older, overly made-up, sparkly type women here was just a bit disturbing for me. As we say… ‘not my cup of tea’. I would hope Allison might some day have a younger, more rock n roll type audience.
Just sayin….
Thanks for the review alli lurker! I placed a note on the alliholics board for PRM and others to check this old thread to see your “uncensored” version of your review.
Here’s the first video from last night – Holiday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6tIhS9tQkM
BTW, have you seen these excellent videos from Charlotte?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC_mg7CG1Ek&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZSIgwWwcYo
Saw it. Thanks! Appreciated your in depth review of Adam. :)
Eep! You’re gonna get me in trouble, LOL!
That’s a mighty fine Holiday, don’t you think? She really brought it… and said Denver a lot (always a crowd pleaser!) Becky must have been sitting right next to me, because that video is exactly the view I had!
ETA: Its nice to see Val behind Allison for a change.
I had no idea that this thread was still going! Found it through the link Jordison posted at the alliholics board. Can I come here and complain with you? I have read all of your posts from the last couple of days and thought I would make a few (actually a lot!) comments.
I don’t watch this show, but that is a lot of sales for a song just off of one performance. I don’t see how they can’t get Allison more TV performances. She is on a major label with a big management company. I see plenty of acts on talk shows that I have never even heard of.
I watched this and I have never heard of her or this song. Nothing special. This makes me even more frustrated!
LOL!
I completely understand, but I am not sure who is touring this summer that she could have toured with. Also, with the little they were/ are doing with her I will take this over nothing. Judging by the fact that they only scheduled her up until the 20th and are now going back and adding dates they had absolutely nothing planned. I am sure Orianthi has something better because 19 seems to want to promote her.
It must be a bit of an adjustment having to do the longer set and it being the 3rd night of performances, but glad she still sounded great!
Now that I have covered nearly all of the posts, can I just say that I think I should stay out of the headlines thread for the rest of the day. I read a few posts on the first page and then started to see a bunch of Allison talk. I don’t think I can handle the discussion. Really JIVE has done a lot to promote DWTP? I also don’t like the idea that Allison just hasn’t connected with the audience. She has hardly had any exposure outside of American Idol. She has had very little radio play. How can we determine whether she has connected to people if there are still so many people who don’t even know she exists? Lastly, I highly doubt that performing on this tour is going to help her sell the song. I am sure she will sell a few downloads or albums, but it’s not like she is performing for 10,000 people a night for an hour.
I think that is all for now. I needed to vent and I can’t talk to anyone at home or else they would think I am nuts :)
Welcome aboard Lorelei. My wife still doesn’t know exactly what I do when I’m “on that damn computer for so long”, and my 21 year old son looked over my shoulder the other day, snickered, and called me a “groupie.” He now thinks his 65 year old father has completely lost it.
ETA – You didn’t know that we live in the underworld, also sometimes known as the basement, or the caves?
There’s no such thing as a dead thread.
Beat Me Up and Still Breathing just added on alliholics:
http://www.alliholics.com/2010/07/18/allison-iraheta-denver-glamnation-tour-media/
Thanks! You can call me Lauren if you want. My dad calls me Lorelai (don’t love it) and I used it as my screen name. I would change it, but we can’t.
I knew, but this one seems really old!
Lauren, Allison specific threads are really rare these days, and our posts tend to get lost in the tour threads. So, we use what we can. Besides, I think alli lurker feels more comfortable “lurking in the basement.” :)
BTW – alli lurker posted to this thread about 2 weeks after the last posting, and just on a fluke I ran into it.
I’ll probably go offline for a while now. Later.
LOL!
Absotively! Love it.
I think Allison needed a bit of polishing of her performance skills, but I think she has it now. This tour has been great for her in that regard. I think she should be on TV all the time, maybe a show or something. I agree re: the ‘talent’ on talk shows – a lot of it is really bad!
She probably wasn’t ready to tour with anyone else earlier this summer. I think she is now. This was absolutely better than nothing.
Hmm… I rarely read the headlines anymore… might have to check that out.
I do like me a good basement! But seriously, I’m more likely to say some things when I think fewer eyes are watching. Call me chicken!
Lauren – I liked this discussion, thanks for pointing it out. People said some good things that you might not have seen, and I love that people are talking about her (people besides us!). I think some people stay away from Allison threads because we scare them away, maybe because we get too defensive. Its good that they are comfortable commenting on the headlines thread. I enjoyed reading it – even the bad stuff.
ETA: Okay, not the really bad stuff!
Oh I completely understand. I usually would read all of the old threads and keep checking. I just had forgotten about this one. I wouldn’t really want to post too much in the tour threads. They scare me! PRMari made a comment about her frustrations with Allison and radio in a tour thread the other day that wasn’t taken too well. I guess Allison fans aren’t allowed to complain.
I definitely agree that this tour has helped her with her performance skills. She seems less frenetic, but still energetic and is clearly having a great time. Just a little over a year off the show and she has grown so much. Even from the first tour date you can see differences.
You don’t have to tell me! This is why I usually lurk. This quiet place seems good to me.
That is probably true. I read about halfway through the first page and thought here we go again. The same comments I had seen before. I like discussion, but sometimes I get annoyed with some of the comments especially from people who it seems haven’t even bothered to pay any attention to what has been going on. The comments about JIVE promoting the song particularly aggravate me. Maybe they have done more behind the scenes, but I am just having a really hard time believing this. The song is losing spins with hardly any adds. I am thinking at this point that they are just not interested in pushing any song from Allison. I think they put some effort into FIBOU because it was the lead single, but now that album sales (for this one) are pretty much done they don’t want to waste any more money. How are you guys feeling about a second album possibility? Part of me thinks there will be one just because Allison is so young and obviously has a lot of potential. Maybe they will go back into the studio and create an album with more rock and sort of re-launch or re-brand Allison to an older audience and with an album that matches her voice and style a little better (this is not to say that I don’t love a lot of the JLY).
I will keep checking back here.
She added COSTA MESA (and tons of other dates)!! Hooray for jordison!! (And Lauren, too?)
My thoughts exactly! I think she’ll have a second album.
Best news! I actually screamed when I saw the news (just a little embarrassing!)I just looked at her official site and there are a lot of dates. I tried to count and there are over 40 dates; hopefully her voice can hold up. I am going to look for tickets. Jordison you sure were smart to buy for Costa Mesa and hope she would get added. Do you think it was the petition? All I know is that I am very happy for Allison. She seems to be having a great time as does the band. Hopefully after the tour she can begin working on a second album (after a nice long vacation of course!)
Haha! Try to get good seats!! Yeah, I’m so happy for her – and you guys, too!
If you guys didn’t see on the concert thread, I found another HQ video of Allison singing No One Else in Denver. Its a good one – be sure to watch!! Makes me misty!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhPO2wRemXI
I’ve been away from my computer pretty much all day, so I just read the news a few minutes ago.
All I can say is…………
YEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
I have no idea if the petition made the difference, but I think it sure showed management the devoted fans and level of support Allison has, and I’m sure it made Allison and the band quite happy.
As for the Costa Mesa concert, I just checked and, although 7/28 sold out almost immediately, there are still seats available (and more than just singles) for the 7/27 added concert. If my wife’s health were better, and if she were as much a fanatic as I am, I would probably go for the 7/27 also. The fair is dark that day, so traffic should be much, much better. I was warned to get there really early because of the congestion.
As for Allison’s voice holding up, I share your concern.
Good luck on getting tickets!
Excellent. Thanks alli lurker!
Wow thanks for telling me this. I knew that the fair was closed one of the two dates and for some reason I was thinking it was the 7/28 show. I am talking my mom into going to the fair and then to see the concert. Also, my grandma was the librarian at the school Adam graduated from so she is curious about the show and wants to go so I am looking into the San Diego show as well (I don’t think she has any idea what she is in for!) I was looking at Stubhub today and the seating charts are very confusing. I tried to use ticketmaster, but couldn’t find any seats, not even just entering for 1 ticket. I will have to do more research tomorrow. I would love to get up close, but with some of these prices I may just have to settle for getting to go at all.
I just love it when we get good quality videos like this! Thanks for bringing it over. I would love it if she would do Still Breathing like this. I have been very curious to hear this one acoustically. She has done Holiday, Scars, JLY, FIBOU, DWTP could you imagine SB or Trouble Is? Also, I think I have given up on ever hearing D is for Dangerous or You Don’t Know Me. I wish she would cut Robot Love for one of these. She says she wants to keep the energy level up and these would both do that. I guess it must just be a lack of time to practice them.
Thanks for all of the responses to my posts. It feels good to talk to other Allison fans, although it can take a little navigating to get here :)
I gotta say that I’m so happy that Denver appears to have been a positive experience for Allison…. the audience response, all the great vids, lots of comments in the concert thread, and the great review. I hope she looks back at it fondly and always includes us in her tour schedule!
I wonder what’s up with her Twitter drought, though? Personal life troubles, you think? Maybe she’s sick. I was kind of hoping Denver would get a shout out… pesky fan that I am….
Gasp! I never thought of her doing SB acoustically! Great idea – now I must hear it! Hahaha!
I haven’t given up on those two songs – they are my favorites, (along with Pieces). I think they should be singles – mainly because they are the songs I first played on ‘repeat’. I wanted to hear them over and over. Shouldn’t singles be like that?
Robot Love is not my favorite song, but it’s fun and rowdy in concert. I understand why she sings it.
Thank YOU for being here! Its nice to hear a fresh voice…
BTW – I bookmark her threads and put them in a folder so they’re easy to get to.
It might not be worth it if she’s only doing the 20 minute set. You can wait and save your money for her headlining tour!
Okay, getting a little carried away now… but wanted to comment on this, too. I know we’ve discussed it before, but yeah, I was very concerned when I heard her the other night. You can say the hoarseness is a result of the extended set, three nights in a row, but Adam does a much longer set and he doesn’t seem to have a problem. She really needs to be careful. I hope she consults with Adam and learns his techniques.
I’m sure its tough because everybody wants to hear her wail!
I like the album version (the lyrics always make me laugh), but I am not too fond of the live version. I will say though that I have not watched many videos of this one. It may just be one that comes across better in the setting and live environment.
Definitely! I wish we could talk to the person responsible for choosing FIBOU as a single. I would have told them before it was even announced that it was a bad choice. It is the only song on the album I don’t like. YDKM would have been a great choice; at least I have always thought so. It is poppy enough without going overboard, it is a good length for radio, shows off Allison’s voice pretty well and I think the lyrics are great (words people can relate to and could have tied in with her time on American Idol) But I guess there is no use dwelling on the past : ) DIFD is just fun! The opening of that song is great every time I hear it.
Great idea! Just did this.
Yeah I got tickets to the Costa Mesa show on the 28th. They are in the terrace section, but at least they are closer to the aisle. $38 and that includes fair admission. Not bad! I can’t believe some of these prices. I can’t seem to find good tickets for the San Diego show. For some reason all of the tickets that show the seat numbers they are listed every other seat ie. seats 10,12. Why is this? I will keep looking because I really want to hear Allison in-doors. I know nothing about acoustics, but from watching the videos I think I like the indoors better. Also, how can I resist the chance to hear her twice ;)
Never! I feel like I am writing too much. I hope my posts aren’t too long. I type them out in Microsoft Word first. This way I can write all of my comments at once.
I read somewhere in an interview that Allison did, that she loses her voice very easily. I am worried for her. I think she has definitely made improvements on knowing when to hold back and not go over the top, but she still runs on impulse. I don’t know if it is just the type of singer/tone of voice (sorry I don’t know musical terminology) that makes it easier for Adam to sing longer sets or what.
I do! I do! I was already looking at the schedule to see what days she has off to see if she performs the day before my show.
Ok novel is over :)
OK disregard my stupid question about seating at the theater! Went into the stubhub help section and they guarantee groups seats and say that some venues just list seats in even/odd numbers. I thought this would have been weird. Now just have to find the right tickets!
Me, too. YDKM is my favorite song on the album and I have always thought it would be a hit for her. Like you said, it has a great backstory and its a great song. I don’t know how long you’ve lurked here, but someone who used to post here said they would never release it as a single because she co-wrote it. He said that happened to some other idols, too. Doesn’t that seem crazy? Makes me nuts!
Glad you got tickets. Mine were $35 + $22 convenience fees WTF is that?
I would rather see anyone outside in the summer – I just prefer being outside. I don’t know if its better to see her at the beginning or end of a stint. I just saw some Kansas City vids (after a day off) where she has great energy. Last night in Boise (also after a day off) she sounded strong at first but held back on the end of Holiday. Maybe she was trying to rescue her voice before Seattle, I don’t know. I’m sure there are many different influences – sleep, crowd, location, weather, girl stuff (lol), etc. I’m sure she’ll bring it for the hometown crowd in LA, though!
I think Allison really likes GA venues. Sounds like she’s killing in Seattle. Hope there’s vids.
Looong time lurker! I have heard of this before. I have also read about David Cook and other idols never getting songs they had a hand in writing released as singles. I can see Kris is 0 for 2 so far. It seems ridiculous to me especially since she co-wrote it. I am beginning to think that is a reason she can’t perform it live ;)
I am definitely excited and the amphitheatre seating seems like it will be good. The show seems rather late though. My ticket says 8 pm. I haven’t followed the times too closely, but it seemed like the other shows had been around 7. The $22 services fees you got are insane. Mine were $5 plus $5 for electronic delivery (beats the $17 for overnight only options on a lot of the tickets).
I can only imagine! She always seems so spontaneous and just goes with what she feels.
Hopefully Jordison will tell us about his trip to see Alli on Tuesday.
I think you are both going on Wednesday – be sure to wave to each other! I’ll be waiting to hear your censored and uncensored recaps!
I’ve been thinking about Allison’s (extended) set, and I hate to say this because I love the song on the album, but I think if she wanted to make a change, she could drop Beat Me Up and replace it with YDKM or D. Why? I don’t think she’s going that direction in the future, she doesn’t seem that into it, and when she sings it live she drops a lot of the words which (I think) really changes it. It just doesn’t have the punch it has on the album. I’d much rather hear one of the other two songs and I would be willing to give up Still Breathing (maybe) to hear them both!
I may have exaggerated a bit… it was $104 total for two tickets.
I wonder if they’ll let Bowersox do it… That girl’s really starting to get on my nerves… Asking Adam to sing with her, singing Piece of My Heart on tour, her face plastered all over Slezak’s twitter page… its all too much for me!
http://www.alliholics.com/2010/07/21/allison-iraheta-visits-kiss-fm-seattle/
Love the hair idea! Yes!!
Oops, just saw BMU in Wichita… maybe she should keep it. That was hot!
Oops! I guess I got the days mixed up.
I would love this! Even in the shorter set I would take either one of those songs over Robot Love. I haven’t watched much video of BMU. I remember listening to a few seconds of it from the Pride in Long Beach that she did and I didn’t like it. It is fun on the album, but like you said words get dropped off. I think at this point the band just hasn’t practiced YDKM or D. I know the first time she did Still Breathing and No One Else she had lyric changes all over the place. LOL. She must not be ready to perform those or else she might. We need someone to ask her.
Not too bad, but they certainly get you with extra fees/taxes. Did you see her on the idol tour last year? I went and I think it was $60 a ticket (for nosebleed seats at that).
Haha! I really liked her at the beginning when she did Natural Woman, but she lost me pretty quickly. She is definitely talented, but her voice just doesn’t do anything for me. I listened to a little of her Piece of My Heart and thought it was good/ok, but she doesn’t have the emotion/passion Allison puts into it. I love that one from the Pride show. She means business! I was just listening to the Heartbreaker from Tennessee and she sings “Don’t you mess around no no… Hell No!” Love it!
Hmm… I am not sure about this one. Would that be too dark? I guess as long as it wasn’t a jet black color. I actually really like her hair in that video. It looks like she has less of the rainbow color and more of a solid shade. I swear that girl’s hair looks like a different shade every time I see her. Sometimes it looks pink other times red. I also like how her hair stands out. It usually gets her some attention. I will say though she is looking more stunning with each passing day. She has really grown a lot since her idol days. I often wonder what could have been if she was on this past season. She obviously would have been the best ;) Then again who wants to be associated with a negative season?
I haven’t watched it, but will go and look it up.
Man having so many troubles posting tonight. Total rookie here! This may sound like a dumb question, but how do you post a link in the midst of commentary? I tried to add a link and then after submitting my post half of it was underlined as if it were part of the hyperlink.
No, they didn’t come to Denver. (Season 9 is coming, but I haven’t bought a ticket, even for $10) I truthfully wasn’t crazy about Allison’s set. I thought she should have left Cry Baby on the Idol stage. I think I would have liked Barracuda, though. I still like to hear heartfelt songs from her, too. No One Else the other night was a good one for me!
Its true! And she still does it, but not as bad. The other night during No One Else she was supposed to say “I told you I’d never need you, but oh you proved me wrong again”, but she said “I told you I’d never leave you”. LOL. Oh well, we got the gist of it! During SB I think she says “never gonna see me breathing” a lot when she should be saying “grieving”. Its hard to tell, though.
I remember talking to my hair girl once about some blue streaks in her hair… Her hair is naturally dark and she said that to get that color you have to bleach the hair first, then color it. It takes forever and it can’t be good for your hair. I can’t imagine that Allison could keep this up for too much longer – her hair will be fried!
I like how her hair looks in the b&w parts of the DWTP “music video”. If you didn’t know it was red, you would think it was medium brown with major highlights (and straight – you were right LDR!). I think she would look good like that, with some colorful extensions added. It might be risky, but she could try it after tour. And yes, I agree that black would be too dark (imo).
Yes, I think she’s dull compared to Allison. I didn’t like her attitude, either, but I think she might be a bit depressed (?) Maybe a happy pill would help! I also hate that they compare her to Joplin (only Alli compares to Joplin!) It would be very cool if someday people compared singers to Allison.
Gonna stop here and submit so I don’t lose this one! Not using Word!
Feeling chatty today… Don’t worry, I’m not always like this!
Sometimes I wonder if Jive isn’t as stupid as we think they are, and that they are saving these ‘big guns’ (as Rub likes to call them) for when she is a bit older and more polished. Maybe these are the songs they’ll bring out for a headlining tour. (I’m not usually right about this stuff, so this might be a stretch!) I really hope these 2 will be singles, though. The singles they’ve released so far were near the bottom (FIBOU, Scars) and middle (DWTP) of my rankings of her album.
You know, it might not matter too much about her sales (radio play probably does matter, though) because I’ve read that most kids get their music for free. I think most bands make their money from touring. If she can become well known as a fantastic live performer, I think she could do well. Maybe sales would follow from that. It might take some time.
You’re probably asking the wrong person… I’m certainly no techno-wizard! It might be because you’re using Word. I have no problem just cutting and pasting links in the middle of my comment when I’m just typing in the comment box. Don’t know what else to tell you. Maybe just do a separate shorter post in the box? My stupid question is… How do you change the words in the link and still keep it a link? I haven’t been able to do that.
I like chatty! Be prepared because I will be the same…
I can understand. I didn’t love So What (the bridge was the best part). Allison did a good job with the song, but it is just an ok song. I read somewhere or she hinted once that this was chosen for her. How nice right? I know they want the show well paced and she was opening after intermission, but there are thousands of other songs that would have fit. Allison seems to have eclectic music tastes and definitely could have picked a better song. I love Cry Baby, but as the tour went on and she began to lose her voice it was probably not the right choice. I have noticed that sometimes she talks/shouts the words in songs when her voice is tired. I don’t like this. I wish she would just tone down the energy and sing it softer. I would have loved it if she would have done the version from the Pride show with the piano. Love that! What song should she have done from American Idol? Alone maybe, dropping Barracuda so there are not 2 Heart songs (I wish she would sing the full version of this song someday). I will say that her set flew by and it was all a blur. At least next week I get 5.5 songs instead of 3 (maybe Orianthi can drop out; sorry Ori but want more Alli!)
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OMG yes! She delivers the most fantastic heartfelt performances that stun me. She really does seem to go to another place when performing these. I think these are great too for people who don’t know her. This is when they appear the most in awe of her. In that No One Else from Denver there is this silence in the room. I absolutely love the way she does Scars too (boo for no full length. Can’t Adam and Orianthi each shave a minute off of their intermissions so she can sing the whole thing?)
Haha! She probably did. She always talks about blanking out when she is on stage. This might affect her memory of the proper lyrics. Oh well only us diehards notice and even as many times as I have heard these songs, I still don’t have all of the words memorized for a few. No One Else seems to be a tad repetitive so I have troubles with that one. I remember one time I was listening to an acoustic DWTP and she sang “DWTP on lies” instead of “DWTP on life” I thought I had the words wrong the entire time, but she just messed them up!
Wow that doesn’t sound good for your hair. I have highlights, but it doesn’t require this kind of work. I think it that case it would be good to make a change. If she gets red at the ends though will that be the same process? I also wonder how long her natural hair is. She has extensions, but her hair should be pretty long by now. Maybe they only do the blue on the extensions since the steaks don’t start at the roots, but more towards the ends.
Hysterical! Can’t they release that at least? But that require money/work so nah.
Maybe that is part of my problem. I am used to Alli’s energy and spunk (or immaturity if you’re not a fan.) I will be the first to say that I am not the most exciting person. I am shy and reserved, but these people are trying to be entertainers. I don’t think that means you have to necessarily be wild and crazy, but you have to be engaging. Good luck to her though! (I will say this though; if they promote her like crazy I will be very bitter!)
Boy I wish they were smarter than we credit them for, but every time I think they might be they just show themselves to be who we thought they were. I often think that stuff might be going on behind the scenes, but the fact that they had nothing planned for her in August/September (before they extended the tour) just makes me leery. I do hope that they might re-evaluate post tour on coming up with a marketing strategy aimed to fit her more mature style/sound. No more tweens/teens please! I don’t think most people in this age range appreciate Allison’s talent. I would like it if they were saving these songs, but if they do go with another single they have to really push it to radio. They seem to pick a song, throw it out there and hope it sticks. Come on! Effort would be nice. She is a new artist so interest isn’t going to be there right off the bat. Also, I have to agree with your album rankings. I love Scars, but it still has a little too much overproduction and it is way too slow for radio. When you hear songs like “Tik Tok” (I really shouldn’t even bring her up. I hate that all of these people that CAN’T REALLY SING do so well. Ugh.) I don’t think they are looking for heartfelt songs. LOL.
I do think that she needs the radio play desperately. I almost think of radio as sort of brainwashing. They play the same songs so relentlessly that you almost end up liking them. Lots of radio attention would at least possibly get some to seek out Alli and she could sell single downloads (probably not too many albums.) I do think though that Allison gets too much flack for her album sales. She has sold 102,000 without much promo. Even Jordin whose first album sold over a million and has sold 9 million single downloads has only sold 175,000 of her second album (which came out I think in July or August last year).
Hmm… I tried just cutting and pasting a link in a separate post using the comment box, but nothing showed up in the post (that is why at 2:08 there is nothing!) Am I not supposed to use the blue link button above the comment box? I will try again.
I only know how to do this when entering a hyperlink in Word. Do you have word? If you do on the insert tab click the hyperlink button (located in the links section). Copy/paste the link into the address spot and where it says text to display type the words you want to show. Maybe then you could just copy/paste the link from the word document into your post.
Holy Crap! This may end up being the longest post ever! Sorry for droning on for so long.
ETA: Sorry Alli Lurker I tried my Word idea and it didn’t work :( I am not sure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fxox5xfyAzI Testing!
ETA: well that worked! I guess we shouldn’t use the blue link button and just simply copy paste into the comment box. This venue is so tiny. Almost looks like they are packed into a living room. LOL.
My goodness I think this chattiness is contagious ;) I forgot to mention that I watched the Kansas Beat Me Up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdQW2uFr-vA (testing just to be sure that it wasn’t just luck last time!) This one was a lot of fun. In some of the others she was doing that talking/yelling the line thing that I was talking about in my earlier post, but didn’t hear it in this one. I also like how Liz does back up vocals. This really helps Allison. She can drop a few words hear and there sometimes to catch a breather. I do wonder though what those who don’t know this song are thinking. “Even though you Beat Me up Beat Me Up” LOL.
My oh my, you two have been chatty lately! :)
Just want you to know that even though I haven’t posted here lately, it’s been mostly a matter of lack of computer time/access, rather than lack of interest. But, I have been lurking, reading your very long posts. Good reading – please keep them up.
Yes, it is correct that we (my wife, my son, and I) have tickets to the 7/28 concert. My wife will be going, health permitting. She has some autoimmune diseases (yes, more than one), so some days are better than others. We’ll hope for the best for next Wednesday. Otherwise, it may just be my son and myself. Although I requested handicapped (wheelchair) seats the first moment seats became available, we were placed in the handicapped section in the very last row of Section 5. However, I was told that it’s better to be up high than down low and off to a far side.
I’ve also noticed how Allison is dropping more and more words in Robot Love and Heartbreaker, and also that Liz fills in rather seamlessly. I liked Heartbreaker better earlier in the tour when Allison finished off more lines, especially the one where she “jumps down.” But, I can understand that the tour is taking a toll on her voice, and it’s much more important to protect her instrument than to hit a couple of notes.
I was thinking of a baseball analogy: compare Allison to an 18-year-old pitcher with a 98 mph fastball, who, instead of being a closer, is being asked to pitch all 9 innings, 5 or 6 games a week. This pitcher is going to have to learn to mix up the pitches with curves, change ups, etc., although the fastball is his best pitch.
One of the reasons I really like the concept of an Alli-Ori alliance is that, if they can come up with the right kind of rock music, there would be an opportunity to balance really powerful vocals with really powerful guitar work. I think the DWTP collaboration is an example of how this would work. Allison has a chance to breathe while Ori does some guitar runs.
Finally, I never attended the Season 8 tour in person, but I did follow it on MJ’s. I hated So What and didn’t feel that going for 2 songs would be worth it. I have to admit that, being a Joplin fan, I loved Cry Baby, and analyzed it to death during the tour. I also agree that I think Crystal Bowersox’s license to sing Piece of My Heart should be revoked. I sorta like Crystal, but not on that song. I agree that Allison’s version at Long Beach was way, way better, even with the trip. :) Speaking of the Long Beach trip and Allison’s other pratfall(s), I really get a kick out of her. That’s why I call her a combination of Janis Joplin and Lucille Ball.
Gotta go for now. Keep posting until a new Allison thread comes along!
Message to PRMari, if you happen to still check this thread:
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!
OMG, jordison’s getting chatty, too… I can’t keep up!
Okay, too lazy/tired to cut, paste, quote…
RE: Jive: I’m encouraged that someone is doing those little video things on her website. LDR and I always wanted her to do vids. It might not be huge, but its something. BTW – Lauren, why don’t you submit a question about YDKM and D? She’s asking for questions. She’ll probably record answers while she’s in LA and they’ll release them during the rest of the tour. Not sure if she’ll actually answer the questions, though. She can be very evasive… shoulda been a politician.
Jordison – I’m surprised you’re bringing your son to the concert since it sounds like he gives you a hard time about your fandom. I’m very curious to hear his uncensored comments. Be prepared for Glam Fans:
http://twitpic.com/2766eh
Just an FYI…I won’t have much time to check back here over the next few days. Have a good weekend if we don’t talk.
Having trouble with my post so I will repost.
They are not too much are they? I have this problem with being concise (in general). I just can’t seem to do it!
I will hope for the best for you and your wife. I am in section 4. I thought about getting stuck off to the far side. I used stubhub to get my tickets and wasn’t going to buy tickets from people who don’t disclose the seat numbers. Some of the ones in better sections didn’t tell you and I figured it was because they were too far over. I would rather have a good straight shot at the stage then be close, but shoved to the side. Hope you have a great time! I can’t wait.
Yeah I haven’t been too fond of the last few shows with these songs. They are not my favs, although I haven’t watched many Robot Loves/FIBOUS. I do understand why though. I get more worried after every performance show about her making it through the rest of the tour. It is going to be even worse come September when there is no Orianthi and she has a longer set. Any different song/set suggestions?
This would be fantastic! I love that with DWTP she can improvise a lot more and can come in and out with her vocals freely. They would make a great alliance as you stated. Someone needs to propose this idea to a label and now!
I can understand it not seeming worth it. I decided to go for Allison and for my curiosity. I have been watching since season 1, but I had never gone to the tour. It was a lot more fun than I expected, though if you blinked you would have missed Allison.
LOL! You guys are too funny. This is why I would always lurk and read all of your posts.
Happy Birthday! (If you are still around)
I put one in! There were not too many questions so maybe she will answer. I am not good at coming up with other things to ask though.
If anyone looks like this at the concert my mom is going to be concerned about my sanity. LOL.
I predict many people will look like this, and its not your sanity your mother should be worried about! LOL!
I was thinking that a photographer should follow around Adam’s concerts and take pictures of the crazy people in line and maybe do short interviews. It would make a very interesting show at a gallery somewhere. Seriously.
They’re both managed by 19E, but Allison is signed to Jive and Ori to Geffen. I’m not sure how the contractual stuff would play out.
I think both my wife and son would think I’m crazy if I start jumping up and down for Allison. Our son likes Allison’s songs, but he’s not really an OTT fan of any band or performer. Too cool, I guess? :} He just thinks I’m nuts to be posting on this blog. Could be right. Still, he has his facebook, so…? I think both my wife and son will be amused by the characters, however.
Word of warning to Lauren – I hear the traffic during the fair is horrific. Get there plenty early.
Beats me too. I just wish they would unite forces. I have read quite a few comments from people who are not really fans and just have a more casual interest say that this would be great for the two of them because they haven’t done really well on their own (not to say that Allison is a failure or can’t/won’t be successful without Ori). Maybe the more casual person would show more interest. 2 beautiful and talented women rocking it out! Maybe the fans of both could unite too.
I will scream and shout for Allison if the crowd is into it, but not if I am the only one. Lol. I don’t like to draw attention ;) We may be a little crazy, but Alli is worth it. I don’t know what it is that makes you get so attached and have such a vested interest. I have never had this feeling of concern/care for anyone from idol or any celebrity in general. I guess it just happens. Also, there are plenty of people talking about all sorts of things on the internet so we are definitely not alone.
Thanks! We will probably be leaving late afternoon and checking out the fair a bit beforehand so we should be there in time (unless I get distracted by all of the food! )
I was just thinking wouldn’t it be nice if they would have scheduled a week long break in the middle of the tour? I think they could all use a week to relax and give their voices a rest. Allison is going to be so exhausted by the time this is over. This is longer than the idol tour and she is doing more songs. There is that pesky interest and concern again ;)
Being an “old codger” (I actually don’t know what a codger is)I would feel weird jumping up and down and screaming. Besides, I never did this back in the “old days” (i.e., ’60s) when I used to go to the Fillmore/Winterland/Avalon, etc. to see Janis, The Airplane, etc. I guess I’m more the type to internalize my feelings, so you’ll never see me “swaybotting,” or clapping my hands way above my head (I don’t get this either). I may stand up, but I am aware of people behind me, and tend to be considerate and not want to block anyone’s view. I’m especially sensitive to this because my wife is short and has mobility problems, so if someone stands in front her she won’t be able to see a thing.
Still, I really am hoping for a loud, enthusiastic response for Allison. I’m a little worried, after reading the reviews of Thunder Valley, where they started the concert earlier than the advertised time in order to make room for Allison – I assume. Costa Mesa has a noise curfew, and I wonder how they plan to finish the concert by 10:00 (or thereabouts). The Tuesday concert starts at 7:30, and I wonder if they might start Allison at 7:30 as well. If so, I would really hope that they would advertise the time change, so that there would be people in the seats. Thunder Valley was half empty when Allison went on. Just another thing to worry about.
As far as being a “fan”, this is a first for me also. I’ve liked bands and performers over the years, but have never had this kind of a “relationship” before. I think it’s because Allison reminds me of the old style rock and roll, (e.g. Janis, Airplane, etc.) that I grew up with. Alli lurker and I have had many conversations about this.
Allison will perform in Costa Mesa, and she and Ori will do the SYTYCD results show on 7/29!!!
Alli Lurker has raised the possibility that the management/performers/journalists lurk on this and other boards. I’m beginning to think that this might be the case. Or, perhaps my ego is getting out of hand.
Anyway, I would like to take credit (properly, or more likely, improperly) for the following:
1. Telling Allison not to turn her back on the audience at the end of a song. (She still does this a little, though)
2. Cut out the angry “come back home” which for a short time was tried, and abandoned for Cry Baby during the Idol tour.
3. Always open with Holiday, with a slow teaser and delayed entry. DWTP, which opened in Ryan’s Rock My World, just didn’t work as an opener.
4. Put DWTP in the middle of the set and extend the instrumentals in order to give Alli a breather, and because it enhances the song.
5. Don’t use the guitar for Still Breathing (well probably everybody said that!)
6. Pushing the petition on Adam fans past the point of obnoxiousness.
7. Finally, constantly complaining that Allison should be featured on So You Think You Can Dance. Yay.
Probably the only thing that would make this coming week any better is if one of the choreographers uses one of Alli’s songs for a dance piece, which ends up getting an emmy nomination.
Stop me. Somebody slap me – I’m outta control. I probably didn’t have anything to do with any of these things happening. But I’m so fucking happy right now! They are going to kick butt Thursday night! (And, Tuesday and Wednesday night, also, of course).
BTW – Weather report for Costa Mesa Wednesday is high of 67 and low of 62. Also, I believe the current noise abatement in Costa Mesa is 10:30, not 10:00. It’s only a reduction anyway, so it may not be a problem.
Oh I will probably not be swaying (the people they have doing this during idol performances are annoying!) or clapping my hands above my head. I guess I just meant more of the screaming/cheering. I want her to get a loud response with lots of claps after the performances. I also will not stand unless I see the crowd doing it. I wouldn’t want to block someone else’s view.
Damn! They better not do this! I will be less than happy (to say the least) if I miss Allison. I will say though, that they added Allison to the Thunder Valley show the day before (or pretty close) and the Costa Mesa one was a week and a half ahead of time so hopefully that was why they had to start early.
Sorry for so many posts, but I am trying to break up my commentary so it is not one loooong post.
Wahoo!! I read the tweet from Allison and thought of you (Jordison) immediately. I had to come straight here and see if you saw the news. You have definitely been a champion of this idea. I think they may read some boards. I often think that fans (some at least) know them better then the management does. We should pick the singles, cover art, wardrobe etc ;) If they are reading: please do more promotion and get Alli more radio adds! Maybe they are FINALLY starting to wake up!
As for the performance I hope there are no sound issues or bad wardrobe choices. In an ideal world she would get a response like the girl you mentioned up thread (so unmemorable I already forgot her name :)
More to come…
2 more posts to go.
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Jordison you definitely deserve credit! I have seen some very dedicated Alli fans here in the last year and your support has never wavered. I really have appreciated all the posts you (Alli Lurker, PRMari, LDR, Rub, JohnM (where did he go :( )and others have made. The posts are articulate, thought provoking, respectful and often hysterical. I still remember your post describing your album preview at the clothing store (forgot the name.) I was laughing the entire time I read it!
As for your list, I have to agree with all points. I don’t like when Allison does angry singing (not to say I don’t LOVE when she sings with attitude) because it often turns to yelling. Holiday is definitely the right choice to open the show and the little delayed entrance is perfect. I was thinking about the set and while FIBOU is not my favorite, she really shouldn’t end with DWTP because Orianthi is there and I want it to end with Just Allison. She also can take more breathers in this song than any other. I noticed the guitar drop when she performed this (only for the second time on tour) in MO. I like that she plays, but she probably is just not ready yet and hasn’t had enough time to practice (although can she just wear it ;) because she looks even more awesome with a guitar in hand.) The petition! Thank you so much for being aggressive in pushing the petition. I didn’t think you were obnoxious at all. Who knows this may have given JIVE/19 the wakeup call that there is interest in Alli and if they would do more work she could expand her fan base. There are millions of people who have no clue who Allison is and would love her if they did discover her.
Try to get a little more excited, Lauren. :)
I’m impressed that you’ve followed and remember so well the exploits of those of us you mentioned. I laughed at the mention of the Torrid (Torrent?) (whatever) clothing store. JohnM did the same thing in Albany. BTW, Rub posted today on another thread – he thinks I’m going to both Costa Mesa concerts. I only wish that were true. I didn’t want to point him to this thread, because, well, alli lurker in particular likes a “quiet” basement, and it might have exposed our little secret to “some of the others.”
Regarding JohnM, I’m actually concerned that he just completely dropped off the board, as well as Allison’s board, where he was very active, and alliholics. He mentioned that he had some health problems, but in this cyber world we have no way of knowing what’s happened to him. I hope he’s OK, and it’s just something like his wife threatened to divorce him if he didn’t stop doing this stuff. :) Seriously, it’s frustrating not to know what happened to him.
Now that the euphoria over SYTYCD has subsided, somewhat, of course it’s time to start worrying about things like Alli’s hair covering her face, weird camera blocking, wardrobe choices, etc. I really don’t obsess over any of this stuff – I just want the TV performance to come across really well so the public will love her and she can sell a shitload of records and keep performing and recording.
Regarding Allison’s songs as candidates for choreography: besides Trouble Is, I think Scars, Still Breathing, DIFD, Beat Me Up and Robot could all work, depending on the dance style. I would be delighted if they would choose one. However, they’re running out of weeks for this season. Actually, I think there’s only one more week. But, unlike Idol Season 9, Allison gets to go on a very favorable week.
Regarding FIBOU: It’s not one of my favorites on the album, but I like it a lot better performed live. I watched the SF #1 version, and thought it was pretty good.
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ETA: sorry about these random posts. I am trying to submit something and it’s not block quoting properly. I will try one more time.
I still had this page open on my computer so checked back and thought why not? I can post again right?
Is it too much? :)
Lol. Thanks for this. I am still not quite ready to post to the masses, besides I wouldn’t want the uncensored reviews to be seen. It may not go over too well ;)
Goodness I hope he is alright. He always seemed to be very invested so I didn’t peg him as one of the “new favorite each year” type. I think that his wife posts here too, but I don’t know for sure. I loved all of his in-depth posts.
Lol. I know what you mean. It is not make-or-break for the fans she already has, but I know it can be for the people who have never seen her. I look back at her Ellen, Jimmy Kimmel and NYE looks/style and none of them were very good. I think the NYE one was the worst. Bad hair and the dress wasn’t flattering. The good news is that the last appearance of Lopez Tonight was a good look (or at least I thought so).
Absolutely! Shitloads is better than buttloads right? (sorry couldn’t resist with the Adam reference after the talk from a few weeks ago!)
No kidding. I called BS on the fact that she didn’t get to perform on one of the top 12 and on results night. She is managed by 19 for pete’s sake. I am a little surprise (a lot even) that they got her such a good spot. I also have to add that I am really happy that Orianthi is going to be there. She is obviously better known than Allison so maybe she can draw in a little more attention, not to mention that they both rock when they are together!
New page! This is a good thing because my looong posts meant a lot of scrolling to get to the bottom.
Wow! What an exciting weekend! First Allison tweets (!) about her own upcoming performance on SYTYCD! Fantastic!! So excited!! Then jordison’s ego explodes right here in the thread! Amazing!! Hahaha! Sorry jordison, I couldn’t resist giving you a hard time about that… but I guess you deserve to gloat, especially about the petition and the SYTYCD appearance. I’m so happy that you’re happy!
Thanks, Lauren. We’ve had some good times here. There’s been many times when I’ve had tears in my eyes from laughing so hard.
I’ve been meaning to mention how much I love that delayed entrance… it really showcases her voice and it gets everybody’s attention before she comes out.
Geez, where were you when I was saying all this after the performances? (Lurking I guess, LOL!) I could have used the support! I seriously, seriously almost stopped paying attention to Allison after NYE because it bothered me so much. I just don’t like those short dresses with the poofy skirts. (I always think she (or somebody) treats her TV performances like recitals where she carefully lays out her ‘cute’ little dress the night before – LOL!) I thought the poofy dresses were gone, but she wore one again at the Pride thing, and now its all the through the Journey to DWTP video. Ugh.
I think she’s been looking killer on tour, though. And yes, she looked good on Lopez, although I do prefer her straight hair now.
I’ll be watching on Thursday (actually probably later on DVR) with my hands in front of my eyes peeking through my fingers. I get nervous when she’s on TV!
My advice for her:
* Feel the lyrics and sell them – very important! You want people to relate to the song.
* Control the spazz hands
* Watch the hair – love the head tosses, but try not to leave a big clump of hair in your face when you’re singing (no hiding – just bring it… we love it!)
* Interact with Ori (I like how they go back to back when Ori comes out.)
* No poofy dresses (or dresses with tails, hahaha!) Rock it.
I appreciate your discretion re: this thread… As Lauren said, I really don’t want my uncensored review to be well known (otherwise I wouldn’t care). AND I want to see YOUR uncensored reviews here! Can’t wait! Excited for you both! BTW – if you don’t have a good camera, don’t waste your time trying to tape it. Its distracting… Hopefully someone else will do it.
ETA: I have also wanted to point Rub here, but he knows about the basement – I guess this thread’s just older than what he’s used to…
We should have a new one on Friday! Yay! We can come up for air!
Guilty.
I guess I just got so damn excited I couldn’t contain myself.
BTW, alli lurker, I pretty much agreed with you on the wardrobe issues in the past. It’s just that I don’t get quite as carried away by them. Still, I thought the NYE outfit, and hair, was not good, to say the least.
One thing about SYTYCD: you can be sure that Cat Deeley, the host, will give the girls a good intro – she is very supportive of all the talent. I just hope Alli and Ori do the number as much as possible like the tour, and that there isn’t any forced staging to inhibit the spirit of the number.
As we will be in the last row at Costa Mesa on Wednesday, I don’t intend to try to take any pictures. Hopefully there will be plenty of coverage there. I don’t guarantee that I’ll be able to post a review here the same night – it might take a little while depending on family circumstances. Anyway, getting anxious now!
I have to agree that he deserves to gloat. Whenever he posted about SYTYCD I always thought “that’ll be the day.” Lol.
Oops! Sorry :)
Wow that was close!
Haha! It almost did seem this way. I wonder if it was more of a stylist than Allison’s choosing. I think (or would guess) that she picked her tour clothes out herself. I know we all love the pants ;)
This one didn’t bother me. It was a little short, but I liked the fabric/design. I do think though that it would be easier for her to perform if she didn’t have to worry about a wardrobe malfunction. I still worry about this after seeing some tour videos. Lol. She really likes crouching during some of the belting parts.
Allison’s hair can spur a long conversation all on its own ;) I like it straight and curly (but more waves).
Me too! I will probably read all of the commentary first before watching (I also won’t be seeing it till later anyway, being on the west coast). I will say though that I am NOT looking forward to all of the comments she will undoubtedly get about the single sales. I just hope it is a good number because after that girl who shot to the top of iTunes a few weeks back, there is going to be high expectations for Allison. I don’t want a bunch of “I guess she just can’t connect” posts. Please!
Well said! No spazz hands: There are often comments about Allison being too frenetic. I can see how it is distracting for those that don’t see her regularly if at all. Feeling the lyrics: Allison can sell a song so well, just hope she is on her game. Interact with Ori: Yes! I think the crowds always seem to get into this (how could they not?) Wardrobe: I am wondering if she will wear something from the tour. She did when she performed on the Tonight Show last year during the idol tour. If so what do we vote for? Pants right? Is the see-through top too much? So many things to think about…
Just thinking about this. I can’t believe it has been a whole month since an Alli thread. I hope MJ makes a separate thread because I know she recaps the show, but not all American Idol fans watch it. If I don’t get a chance to write about the show before the SYTYCD episode airs I will still talk about it here. I wouldn’t dare post it in a new thread. Lol.
Wow Jordison we posted at the exact same time!
This is great to hear. This article http://www.examiner.com/x-11462-LA-Music-Examiner~y2010m7d26-Allison-Iraheta-with-Orianthi-and-Christian-TV-to-perform-on-So-You-Think-You-Can-Dance says that some guy named Christian Tv will also perform (never heard of him) here is a link to the song he will do http://music-mix.ew.com/2010/05/14/christian-tv-when-she-turns-18/ Awful if you ask me!Should Alli perform before him and open on a good note or after him to show everyone how it is done?
Any exact dates you want to point out? Favs? It would be a real challenge for me to have to go and watch Alli DWTP videos, but I will to get some ideas ;)
Me either. I know that I wont be home till the early hours of the morning (driving time) so I will probably be too tired, but Thursday definitely!
Is it Wednesday yet?!
Ew… I could have gone my whole life without watching that Christian TV video (nice name, btw)… gross, and very degrading to women, imo. I’m sorry that Allison has to be there the same night as that ass wipe. I’m not sure if she should go on before or after that shit. I’m thinking maybe before, so I don’t have to see him again, or maybe after, to promote girl power and erase all memory of him.
I think she’ll wear something new. I vote for something short, black, and form fitting – with tights. To me, this is becoming her signature look. My problem with the poofy dresses is that I think they make her look like a bratty child. Time to grow up and look sleek and sexy (but not sleazy).
ETA: I don’t think the see-through top is too much. There probably will be no better time to show off her body than when she’s 18! Go for it!… though tastefully, please…
I think she needs to take it down a notch (less movement, not emotion!) when she’s on TV. She did it on Idol. I never saw spazz hands there. BTW, I’m assuming you know what I mean when I say spazz hands… that rapid hand movement stuff she does sometimes… very distracting. I think she’s controlling it well now. Hopefully, nerves won’t get the better of her.
Yes she can! But sometimes I think that after she’s sung a song many times, she thinks more about how to sing it differently than she does about the meaning of the lyrics. I think lyrics are important for this performance.
I’ve thought about this, too. I can’t say it won’t bother me, but I’m really more excited about the positive buzz I think both of them will get from performing together on the show. I guess I’m still thinking more about the ‘long term effects’ for Allison right now. I hope she doesn’t worry about it too much, she should just go out and do her thing.
I like how they do it on tour, too. I like how it starts with just Allison and then Ori comes out. I like how they do the back-to-back thing, and I like how Allison hangs on Ori sometimes. I think people like that Allison is a touchy-feely, affectionate person – I know that I like that about her, anyway!
I won’t be looking for anything from you guys until Thursday. Maybe you should post mainly on the concert thread – for everyone to see – and just put the uncensored stuff here.
Also, I strongly suggest you both bring earplugs. The Glambert fans shrieks are ear piercing!
I wanted to comment on this earlier and forgot…. I felt like Allison got a loud, enthusiastic response in Denver. It felt good. I was happy that people weren’t standing for her because I wouldn’t have been able to see. Most everyone was standing for all of Adam’s set, and there were three very tall women two rows ahead of me who blocked most of my view.
jordison – I’m afraid your wife might not get to see much of Adam, but I guess it depends on how the venue’s set up.
Jealous of your weather… 67 for a high? Ahhh. We can match your low at night, though!
Chat fest! I gotta do another one!
That’s true. I guess I think its more important than most guys would, so its nice to have another girl here who seems to think so, too.
Part 1 (haha!)
Lol. Tell us how you really feel Alli Lurker! When I saw the name in the article silly me I thought it had something to do with a Christian band/performer. Who drops their real last name for this one? I don’t even know how this guy got a spot on the show.
I would love something new! (I am a girl after all and I do get excited about clothes sometimes) I do love your point about wearing something that looks sleek and sexy and most definitely not sleazy. I hate seeing young women wearing next to nothing. I like the pants and see-through top because it is sexy (weird for me to type these words) without being trashy. Form fitting works great to. One interview I read yesterday, Allison said she works out 45 minutes a day with her tour manager. You can tell! Her endless energy impresses me.
Oh I know what you are talking about. I have been lurking remember ;) I don’t let it bother me like I have seen some people have in the past, but I do like it when she reigns this in. I have noticed her toning it down more on this tour. On the idol tour she was in full force. You mentioned nerves and I do think that the spazz hands are often due to nerves. Hopefully the band (they better let them play; ridiculous they weren’t there when she was on idol) and Ori being there with her will help.
Good point. I will say though that she always seems to connect really well with DWTP. She has done what seems like and endless number of acoustic versions of this song and she still seems to connect each time she does it. I just hope she gets enough rest and is not drained before the performance.
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Save me! I am not looking forward to this.
Have to run out real quick. Post more thoughts later!
OK, I called it again. Don’t call me paranoid for nothing. I wonder how many people will get this info and be in the seats in time for Allison.
Allow yourself plenty of time!
I just watched that video and now I want to puke.
Garbage like this is one of the reasons I’m behind Allison (and Ori) so much. I can’t stand the direction of so much of this “modern” music.
As far as when to go on – the last musical guest goes on while the judges go offstage to confer on the fate of the “bottom 3” or whatever it is this week, because 2 dancers are to be eliminated. There’s no chance that Nygel would comment on Alli and Ori because he wouldn’t be present for the performance. But, I think this is a much better spot than the earlier guest performance. According to MJ, one of the guest appearances will be accompanied by dancers. Based on the music, I’m guessing it’s for fartface, unless he comes with his own dancers. Did you read some of the comments in EW? People said they saw him live, and he sucked – had no stage presence. Just great – have him sing this piece of garbage right before (or after) 18 year old Allison goes on?
Back again!
I agree that Allison shouldn’t worry about this. I often wonder what she is thinking when she sees the numbers. I hope she doesn’t ever get discouraged and remembers that there are a lot of people who love her. I am trying to be optimistic as much as possible (it’s just that a few times in the past I would set myself up for big things only to be disappointed. This time I am setting my bar lower ;) ) I also want to add that I don’t believe that it will not be the end of her career or anything if there are not BIG numbers or buzz. I often feel that people are way too quick to write Allison off. She is only 18 after all. Now if she were Adam’s age I would be a bit more worried. Disclaimer: not saying that Adam is old. He is just “old” in the entertainment world for a new artist.
Good to hear! I think, judging from the videos, that she appears to get a positive reception at most venues.
Man I just saw this posted in tonight’s concert thread (haven’t actually gone in the thread just saw it at the top of the post.) Thanks for the heads up. I would have been so disappointed if I missed her. Now I will definitely leave even earlier.
You are too good Jordison! Right again. I hope everyone will be there early. I would hate to have half the venue missing. I want lots of energy!
OMG Jordison I am dying here. This post was too funny! Makes you want to puke, fartface and piece of garbage. Hysterical!
100% agree on being behind Allison/Ori. I get so mad when I see people out there gaining popularity that are, let’s just say, less than talented. Even more annoying is when I read the “they are so amazing” “this song is awesome” type comments. I am thinking “What?” I know that music tastes are subjective, but come on. Some people just can’t sing and the fact that those are the ones that seem to get all of the recognition makes me bitter. My biggest thing for Allison is not necessarily for her to be #1 or selling albums at the rate of Taylor Swift (not that I would be complaining if she did ;) ) but for her to get the recognition that she deserves. Some radio play/album and single sales and a good size, loyal following. Most importantly (and selfishly) lots of albums!
Lastly, thanks for clueing my in on what happens on these results shows. I think going last may be best unless people become too disgusted after seeing fartface (still laughing !) and turn the channel therefore missing Alli.
If we don’t speak (type/chat) again before the concert tomorrow: Have a great time Jordison! Best wishes to you and your wife.
I’ve been looking at some of the pictures from the concert tonight. It looks like a nice venue and it has that video screen – love that. You guys should be able to see everything. Have fun! So jealous….
Re: fartface: Maybe he’ll make Allison look great by comparison. (I hope he doesn’t bring dancers w/ their boobies hanging out! :))
Just had a thought!
I have been reading comments from tonight and looking at the OCFair twitter account they say that (like Jordison mentioned earlier) there is a 10p.m. curfew so they had to push the show (tonight) from 7:30 to 7:00. Why wouldnt tomorrow’s have to also start at 7:00? They cant do the show in 2 and a half hours. So, Jordison it may be best to be there well before 7:00 p.m. just to be safe.
I also want to call BS on the venue who is saying “we only just found out about the time change” You have known for over a week that Allison was going to be there and you know your curfew rules. The place looked so empty because people thought the show Started at 7:30!! I am going to be bummed if the place is bare during Alli’s set :( Why does it seem like Alli is always getting screwed? :( Ugh.
Thanks for the well wishes Alli Lurker :) Oh and Alli will most definitely look great in comparison.
ETA: I am in a mood now! What kind of curfew is 10p.m. Really? I know noise and all, but can’t the curfew be 11pm? Is it that close to houses. http://tweetphoto.com/35305404 Depressing.
RT @snapcracklypop Orianthi just finished. @AllisonIraheta next! http://twitpic.com/29bjxs : Sorry you already missed her!
Ok I promise last post of the night…
I was doing more lurking (cause that’s what we lurkers do ;) ) and over at the topidol blog a poster mentioned that they talked to Ori and she said that she isn’t doing the dates in the second half of the tour because they only had enough money for one and I quote “to their surprise, Allison was getting better reviews and fan response than Orianthi, so they kept her instead.” Now having been lurking there for a while too (though not as frequently as here) this poster is one who I would believe actually talked to Ori. Still take with a grain of salt, but I just found this interesting. Also, I hate that they are so “surprised” that Alli would get a better response. Oh really? I swear these people have no concept of just how amazing Allison is and how if they would try to promote her and help her expand her fan base she could really set the world on fire.
Over there one person also said that they got tickets to the show tonight at the last minute because Alli was added and they missed her. She was the person with the tweet above. How disappointing.
Hmm… it almost sounds like there was ‘battle of the bands’ going on during the entire first half of the tour. I feel bad for Orianthi. I hope she doesn’t hold it against Allison. I’d still like for them to team up.
I wonder if Allison will wish she were home by the time the tour hits Peoria, IL or Thackerville, OK in September…
Lauren,
I agree that just to be safe we should be in our seats no later than 7:00. However, I wonder about the accuracy of the 10:00 curfew info being spread around. I know, I mentioned it myself several times. However, when I talked to the guest services manager he said 10 or 10:30. I’m wondering if the curfew for fair days is extended a half hour. Remember, yesterday was a non-fair day. Also, today the PacAmp revised their website to show the start times as 7:10 yesterday, and 7:30 tonight, so there was actually a planned 20 minute rather than 30 minute difference.
Still, like I said, we plan to be in our seats by 7:00. I hope word has spread around today so that more people will be seated in time for Allison. Many of those attending tonight are repeats from last night, so they should be aware of the situation.
Finally, remembering that last night was an overflow add-on, and most of tonight’s seats sold out within a few hours of going on sale as the original scheduled performance, I predict that tonight’s crowd will be much livelier than last night. Hopefully that will be a good thing?
If you haven’t already hit the road: have a great time at the concert Lauren! (And San Diego as well, of course).
Regarding the Orianthi situation: I also hope, if the info is true, that she doesn’t feel upset about the reviews. I don’t think that a lot of Adam’s followers are that heavily into awesome guitar playing. I remember one comment that “if you’ve heard one shredder, you’ve heard them all.” You could also say, if you’ve heard one blues singer, you’ve heard them all; if you’ve heard one rapper you’ve heard them all (and that is true!), etc. I remember when Adam was on the same bill with Justin Bieber, and the crowd was wild about Bieber, but Adam was only mildly received. Different strokes for different folks.
Going to be leaving soon! Thanks for the well wishes Jordison. Same to you!
As for the curfew, maybe they are more lenient on fair days. I think they close at 10, but who knows how long until the park is officially cleared out. I also didn’t know that this was the originally planned night. I guess that makes sense though because they want to have acts play on fair days to attract greater attendance. So hopefully you are right about the crowd being livelier (you always seem to be right ;) )
I too hope that like you and Alli Lurker Orianthi wouldn’t take it personally. I read other speculation that she may have different plans. Who knows? The one thing that always did bother me though was how they split the acts. I understand them thinking that because Ori has had more success (sales/radio) that she gets the longer set, but the 20:40 minute ratio always seemed too drastic. Lucky ducks (you too Alli Lurker) who get the full Allison treatment!
Well said :)
Talk to you all tomorrow! (SYTYCD day. Yeah!)
Tweet saga of “LABeachmom”:
LABeachmom It should not take an hour to get off an exit ramp…
LABeachmom I didn’t realize the concert was at the OC Fair…what I hate more than fairs? Fair people. Gawd!!!
LABeachmom And me in my black leather shorts… Yep. It’s gonna b interesting.
LABeachmom Thank God!!! http://tweetphoto.com/35483935
LABeachmom I’m a fast drinker:) vodka cranberry:) almost can’t smell the animals now.
LABeachmom Hey @adamlambert ! Seriously the OC Fair!? What was wrong w Nokia, Hollywood Bowl, Staples Center! This crowd doesn’t look like u…!?!?
LABeachmom This is what I hate about Fairs… A donut chicken sandwich! Ew. Oh but what is a fried Twinkie? http://tweetphoto.com/35490035
LABeachmom Just found my Halloween Costume:)! http://tweetphoto.com/35490270
OMG PANTS!!!
You guys are sooo lucky!!
Alex_Moonwalker Alison!!! http://twitpic.com/29lhk1
Another pic:
sexynarwhal Allison and ori. http://twitpic.com/29lnyg
Two more good tweets:
JEHoyt Allison was absolutely awesome! What a super rock chick! We need to hear much more of her.
thefilmqueen Got Allison’s full set on vid. Not the best view but BETTER than the pit – it’s now 3 deep.
Allison portion of Lyndsey Parker’s review of 7/27 show:
I can’t believe that I am still up. I said I would write it Thursday so technically I am.
This may be end up being too long (I am obviously not succinct), but I will try not to ramble too much.
We go to the fair around 4:45. I will just be short and say we did the usual at a fair: walk, look and eat! I felt like I was walking in circles and was really tired by the time the concert came around. Bad idea. Next time (there better be) I will just be lazy and wait for the show.
We were in our seats by 7:20 (I am not a punctual person so all that talk about me being there at 7 didn’t happen) luckily the show hadn’t started. I was freezing my a** off! Silly me (this phrase always makes me think of FIBOU) I wore a skirt. Dumb, dumb, dumb! Our seats were ok. The view of the stage was at the right angle, I just wish we were in the section below us. Also, I will have to get Jordison’s opinion on this too, but I don’t even think the theatre was ¼ full. That may be dramatic so I will have to see what he thinks. It was happening so fast.
Dave came out and I was excited! Alli did her Holiday intro and out she popped. The first thought I had was “oh she is wearing the pants!” I didn’t say this out loud, but wanted to. My mom wouldn’t have understood. Lol. It was surreal to actual see her and be listening live. I watched most of her performances on the Screens because I wanted to see her face and not some ant size figure. She looked so tiny. Everyone says it and boy is it true. I was a little disappointed with the sound. I wish (and this goes for them all) they would turn the band down and the mics up. I also felt like I could have heard her better if we were indoors. I guess I will test this theory on Friday and report back. All this aside, she sounded great! I didn’t have any problems with her diction. I see complaints about this a lot and I truly believe that is has to do with whether or not you know the songs. I couldn’t understand Adam on quite a few of his songs and they were mostly ones I had never heard. I just love her energy on stage. She also really seems to love Ori. Their hug was adorable after DWTP and she said “ladies and gentlemen that was freakin Orianthi!” Thought this was cute. Also loved “when I am there you put on a freakin show” Guess she likes this word, but I am sure there is another word closely related that she would rather be using ;) Alli Lurker you were right about Robot Love. I really enjoyed this way more than I expected. Loved the “hey na na” interaction with the audience. There was one point in the show where I was a bit concerned about her voice. Maybe I am being paranoid, but during Heartbreaker it almost sounded like she lost her voice during a line in the latter part of the song (before the big power notes following the bridge and at the conclusion.) I was holding my breath thinking “please get through this.” She made it, of course. Overall she was fantastic, but this isn’t news to us :) I have to say Alli Lurker I am very jealous of those who get the full set. I swear with this short set, if you blink you would miss her. Unfortunately no more West Coast dates in the latter half of the tour.
On to the rest…
I missed most of Ori’s set. I went out after Alli to get a t-shirt. Good grief the merch lines are ridiculous. It is more like a mob of people then lines. After waiting forever they tell me there are no more Alli shirts in a small :( I will have to check Friday. I swear those jerks probably brought 5 because they figured “oh who will really want an Alli shirt.” I will definitely want to see all of Ori Friday. I just knew that I would be going Friday so I was not worried about getting back in time. The few minutes I did hear she sounded great! Love the accent too.
On to Adam…
Well there were some interesting looks for sure. The crowd did seem like mostly women, but there were men too. I am not sure how crazy the crowd was because it was such a big venue. I think I might see more extremes Friday. There may have been more casual fans at this event due to the high capacity and the tie in with the fair. There were these really annoying girls sitting behind me though. The one girl sang the ENTIRE show. Rest assured if I didn’t understand the words to a song she was letting me know. I get that everyone wants to have a good time, but she was singing so loudly in my ear that at times I could hardly hear Adam. Oh well. The ladies in front of me were loving it. Dancing/ screaming. I noticed there were a lot of people wearing fingerless gloves. I don’t get it. I also didn’t like the ones at the Merch table. To each is own though. About merch again. Could they have 2 Allison shirts to choose from? I know that this isn’t her tour, but would that really be asking for too much. I loved the purple Orianthi one with just her name. How about one like that with Allison’s name? Sorry to sound bitter.
As for the singing. He sounded great! I liked Fever, Sleepwalker and If I Had You the best. They were fun and catchy. I loved the jumping during IIHY. The audience was into it. I didn’t like the opening. I hadn’t heard these songs before (names yes, but never listened.) They just didn’t seem to work and I think the more casual fan didn’t know them either. I also wish he would have kept WWFM in the original arrangement. This is his hit, why change it? The crowd was loud, but not as bad as I expected accept for the initial screams at the start. I do think though that Friday I may go deaf being inside with the screams. A complaint I had was that there were too many wardrobe changes. Some people seemed to get antsy. We left during the encore to try and avoid the stampede of 8,500 people leaving at once.
Overall I had a great time! I am REALLY tired, but I couldn’t stand to wait to write my thoughts. I would have done it in the car if I had a computer with me. I hope Alli continues to tour because I want more! Please :) I am glad I can talk to you guys because my mom doesn’t get it. Lol. We left the venue to get Icecream (I know, I know I was cold, but I LOVE icecream) and as we were walking back in I saw Dave and he was talking to some girl. I told my mom “look there’s Dave!” She said “oh god you know their names.” Yep! How embarrassing. This is why I need to talk on here. More talk at home and I look a little nuts ;)
Can’t wait to hear from you Jordison! Hope you had a great time: )
Going to zzzz now.
Well it’s 2:30 and I’m dead tired. Lauren, I just don’t have your energy to write such a long (and good) report right now. I had a “family obligation” to watch our DVR’d SYTYCD (2 hours!) when we got home, and my wife and son are asleep now. Like you Lauren, they don’t understand all this, and if I had left the room to write a report on the concert they would have shipped me off to a psychiatrist!
Just to summarize, and I will follow up with more details tomorrow (actually later today), I thought Allison was great, but caught the same thing about the line in Heartbreaker. I feel like she’s having some serious problems with that song these days. Our son liked Orianthi best (likes this type of music) and my wife liked Adam the most. My wife, who is trained in opera and was coached for several years by one of the foremost (now deceased) vocal coaches in Southern California (or the country) still feels that Allison “sings from her throat, not her mask” and is heading for serious node problems if she doesn’t change her technique.
I’ll try to describe our experiences with the fair, the wheelchair, the crowd, the sound, how many people were in the seats when Allison came out, the ease of getting to the parking lot and through traffic even after staying through the encore, etc. after I get some sleep. I don’t know if I’ll post anything over at the main thread, unless someone says something and I need to comment on it.
Finally, for tonight, I thought Allison was really charged up tonight and looked great in the pants and suspenders.
Good night.
Haha… its funny that you both posted last night. I suspected you might. Its hard not to!
Lauren – I find it amusing that you lurked for so long when you obviously have so much to say. You must have been ready to explode! LOL!
What did you eat? I’m thinking I HAVE to try that Krispy Kreme chicken sandwich. Probably just one bite, but I HAVE to try it.
LOL!
We didn’t have this problem at my venue. Maybe it will be better in San Diego. I will say, however, that Allison’s band in general didn’t sound as good (rich) as Adam’s. I attributed it to an inferior set-up for the opening act – as Rub explained on another thread.
Aww! Wish I could have seen that!
Told ya! LOL.
Believe me, the ‘full’ set goes by fast, too. I’m still kicking myself for not going to Kansas City and Wichita (also longer sets) which I could have done pretty easily. I’ve thought about Albuquerque (or ‘Al butt crackey’, as we call it!) next week, too. That’s six hours from here.
Haha… sounds like my LP experience! I never mentioned it before, but when Adam came on, my husband leaned over and said to me… “I see LP!” It was kind of cute.
What did your mom say about the concert? Did she like it?
Oh come on! This is the uncensored spot, right? How does that saying go… “If you can’t say something nice, come sit next to me”? Hahaha. You guys are too nice, LOL!
I think my husband would have loved Orianthi.
Looking forward to it!
I think you should both post something on the concert thread. We want everyone to know she has rabid fans! I will follow them up and thank you profusely for sharing.
I can request them there, too, if you want…
ETA: I bet Rub is probably waiting to see your review too, jordison.
Ugh, there’s already comments about the sales boost or lack thereof for the SYTYCD performance on today’s headline thread. I commented there.
Okay, I set you up on the concert thread (called you out specifically, jordison!) Now you HAVE to put something there. Hahaha.
Just sittin’ around talking to myself… blah, blah, blah…
Slezak tweet (He removed Bowersox from his twitter page, btw – Should I take credit for that? LOL):
Pre-party viewing: http://bit.ly/9YJdaD RT @tkdsoulkat #DontWasteThePretty trend party 8:30pm ET @allisoniraheta http://twitpic.com/29qvvr
Another note about tonight:
I hope she doesn’t wear the dark lipstick she wore on Tuesday. I thought it made her look old.
Last note about tonight:
Ignore what I say and do what feels good to you. You feelin’ good is what’s most important. And don’t forget the balloon trick Cindi Lauper taught you!
BTW – There are better comments on the headline thread now. People are rooting for her!
I’m leaving soon and won’t be back until sometime this evening. I’ll check in then…
I just lost the longest post I’ve ever written, and of course I didn’t save it in Word. I’m going to have to try again later, as I have to give up our one and only computer to our son now, who has some critical stuff to do on it.
I promise I will post on this and the concert thread.
Oh god here comes another looong one!
Lol. I was writing my report while everyone was sleeping thinking “please don’t come out here.” I try to keep Alli talk to a minimum. No one knows I am writing here/reading posts/watching videos etc. They would be scared. Lol.
I think she should consider dropping it. I am now even more worried since your wife is knowledgeable on this stuff. I don’t know how she is going to last and there are not too many more dates with the shorter set. Oh goodness now I am stressing about this… What could she sing to be easier on her voice?
She looks so good in these. I love the addition of the suspenders.
Yep couldn’t hold it in! (that sounds gross. Lol)
Uh… yeah! I think I have a year and half’s worth of pent up discussions inside of me. Haha!
I hope it is better. I am sure it has to be the set-up. I don’t know anything about this topic, but I think all of her musicians seem really talented so I don’t think it is them. This is why the complaints about her sound irritate me. She has no control of the quality.
I am sure it still goes by too fast, but there is No One Else which I think allows for a little slow down and not a set full of fast paced songs. Damn now I wish you would have gone. Bummer because I think Wichita was supposed to be one of the most energetic ones. Grrr… If you don’t mind the drive go, go, go!!!
Well sad to say she isn’t really an Alli fan. She doesn’t “get it” (lol. Another adam reference) I just don’t think she likes the gruff/husky voices. She went for me :) She was laughing during Adam’s set. From the initial screams to the ladies wearing gloves and dancing. She also didn’t understand the wardrobe choices Adam made or get all the enthusiasm when Adam would touch Tommy. I was like “shhh I don’t want any of them to hear you, we will talk about it in the car!” She said “we have to see this again on Friday, what is your grandma going to think?” Should be interesting!
Well it wasn’t really anything in particular; it’s just that I didn’t get the “OMG Epicness” of Adam. I think I was expecting something better. He was good, but I wasn’t dying or anything. I also think the crowd seemed more subdued than I expected. There were a few going nuts, but I was expected mass screams and chaos.
See what I mean. This (excuse the language, but it is necessary) shit drives me nuts! As far as I can see there has not been a bunch of promo or money spent by JIVE. I believe that if they really had spent a lot of money trying to get radio adds she would have more than 13 adds right now. I mean come on. This is the most ludicrous idea to me. I knew this would come along with the performance tonight. It really sucks the fun out when we have to worry about this stuff. Can she just make it big already so I can stop worrying ;) Sometimes I think “damn you Allison for making me give a crap!”
Oh and good job Alli Lurker on responding! You get in there and set them straight. I just love how performing on this tour is supposed to magically greatly increase her sales. Even Adam is only selling 5,000 albums a week (which is great, but I don’t see how when can expect more from Alli). I just want to stay in this little bubble and avoid this other stuff. I am all for discussion/debate/ criticism, but this type of stuff just seems like baiting.
Sorry. I will be commenting a lot today because I am fired up!
Yeah! I love is love for her. Although, I will leave a comment if her writes a review, but will not read the other comments. There will be the “why are you still talking about her” “she is not that great” type comments. I am trying to stay away from this because it only annoys me and these type of comments are not constructive.
I don’t think you should take this back. Of course I want her to be comfortable, but I have always had this same thought. The dark lipsticks they put on her are not necessary. Less is more in this case.
Ugh that is awful. I hate when this happens. I look forward to your review :)
Another comment about last night. I was really disappointed that it was daylight when Alli was performing. It looked so cool at night with all of the lights.
Ok more thoughts later…
ETA: If you can Jordison make your post here as long as the original. I can’t wait to hear what you have to say. Your writing is well done and hysterical! Also, you may have seen something that I missed or remind me of something I need to say.
Ok Alli Lurker left a review. Was it ok?
BTW: those 2 videos were my pathetic attempt at videoing. Don’t tell anyone! I had never used this camera before and my seats were in the top section within the first couple of rows so all of these people kept walking by the aisle that was at the top of the lower sections. They were filing in to get to their seats (b/c these idiots didn’t alert sooner to the earlier time change. I tried to get Alli, but the camera wouldn’t zoom anymore. Needless to say it was awful. I only posted in case NOTHING else came out. Hopefully there will be more. I am embarrassed I even posted them. Lol. I was delirious and too tired. Bad move. Bad move. Oh well!
Lauren, you’re really funny. I relate to a lot of the stuff you say though. My family thinks I’m crazy – getting sinile – whatever.
Anyway, I posted a rather boring post over on the concert thread, 7/29, around 8:00 (5:00 PM here). The one I lost was a soup to nuts account of our experience, from elephant smells to peanut shells. I will reproduce it, but it may take a while. In the meantime it’s getting close to dinner time here, so there’s no way I can get it written now. I will post it on this thread, so keep looking, even if a new thread comes along. I don’t know if Allison & Ori will get their own thread from SYTYCD, or if it will be included with the general results show thread, which will bring in all the dance people, who are generally quite reasonable. But, some of them are also Adam posters.
BTW, I agree with the statement about Adam. I really enjoyed his set, but I didn’t consider it a life changing experience.
ETA – I loved your videos. Really reminded me of what it looked like from our seats also.
Okay, I’ve watched the SYTYCD thing a couple of times. I’m still not sure what to say about it. Its so hard for me to be objective with her. Maybe I’ll just do bullet points of my general impressions…
*She looked cute – and her and Ori looked good together. But I still think she looks better in simpler clothes. There was too much going on on top, I thought.
*I thought she sounded a bit nervous
*She wasn’t too spazzy
*The dancers in the background made me laugh out loud
*The sound was awful. I could hear Allison very well, but not the band or Ori.
*Didn’t like the last note – made me worry about her voice again.
I thought it was good, but I wasn’t jumping up and down about it. Lopez may have been better. She seemed more confident. Curious to hear your thoughts.
Thanks to both of you for posting on the concert thread!
Lauren – I can’t believe those were your videos! I’m sorry, but I made a comment over there about how bad the Holiday video was… I said it was so bad it was funny. I think it would have been fine if you weren’t talking the whole time! LOL!
jordison – Sorry about your lost post. That’s happened to me a couple of times, so I feel your pain. Its a real drag to have to type it all over again… takes all the fun out of it.
:( I havent seen it yet. Now I don’t really want to watch. I read a few comments from non fans stating they didn’t think it was anything special. I am not holding my breath for a big bump from this. Once again disappointment. I am bummed about the sound too. Why can’t ANYONE ever get this right! ugh…
Also, as happy as I was that she was added to more tour dates (so I could see her!) I am beginning to wonder if it would have been better to just stop at the original date. Something is going to have to be done because she will not make it for 30 something more dates. There needs to be a week or so break so they can rest their voices. Now I am jealous of Ori who wont be doing any of the date the first week of August.
I will have to post more later. I am too depressed right now (not trying to sound too dramatic just worried and disappointed)
Your review of the show Jordison was wonderful. I loved what you said about Alli in the begining. I can tell how much you care about her. This is always a great thing to read.
Oh geez, its not that bad. Chin up and cheerio! She wasn’t bad, it was mostly the sound and those silly dancers. lol.
I think Lopez did.
IKR? It hardly seems worth it to ruin her voice singing to 1500 people somewhere. But she’s gotta figure this out if this is what she wants to do for the rest of her life. I really can’t imagine her going to college or having some boring job. Yuck.
Well I guess it is my turn for a lost post! I thought it was here and well… it’s not!
I just saw Adams set list and realized I mentioned loving a song that he didnt even do. Lol whoops! Most probably skipped over it anyway.
I made the comment about the videos because I read your comment. Haha! I know they are terrible and I wasn’t even thinking about my talking making it in the video (I thought I was being quiet) guess not! (sidenote: I have no clue why my voice sounds as high as it does. In my head it surely doesn’t) I will check out my view Friday and, if I can, I will try again. This time I wont post unless they are decent. Like I said my tired state messed with my thinking. I should take them down.
Sorry to be so dramatic :) I think I have read too many comments today. I am kind of glad there is no separate thread for the performance because I don’t want to read anymore. Happy bubble!
I do agree that she has to figure it out, but at the same time for someone who has probably never done this much consecutive singing in her life it may be a little bit of overkill. I would think this would be a grueling schedule for even the most seasoned performers. I don’t know anything about singing technique, so I have no clue what she should do. I just hope that she takes care of herself. She has gained a lot of experience from this tour, but I don’t know if it is worth it to do the same routine for the next 2 months (same songs/set/and probably people.)
Jordison I found this comment following a review http://soundcheck.ocregister.com/2010/07/28/pacific-2010-adam-lambert-offers-a-mixed-bag/ by the OC Register and wondered what your thoughts were:
“The pacific amphitheatre was a terrible venue for this concert. Adam did not seem as connected to the audience as what i witnessed the week before in Denver. The audience was awful, at least in my section and what i could view around and in front of me. Yes, everyone was standing, probably so they could see, no one dancing, singing, or even bopping along to the music. The sound was pathetic, the obnoxious men nearby talking about sports and making fun of adam and his fans was distracting. And Adam and the band did not give the same caliber of performance. It did seem rushed and forced at times… And we did get the abbreviated encore. Adam says it depends on the crowd, so obviously he was feeling what I felt.”
This person said she was a big Adam fan even calling herself a glambert. I found this interesting because I kind of got the same vibe. I really was expecting more enthusiasm/excitement. I swear there was more at the idols tour last year. Just curious what you thought. Alli Lurker how was the crowd for Adam in Denver?
To end the night on a positive note… I just listened to D is for Dangerous. I love the beat in this song. The intro is infectious! Also love the fade-out the song does. “A is for all I want…”
Goodnight!
Super responsive, to the point of shrieking when it came time for the encore. Everyone was standing except for some groups of older people in the front of the balcony. We had to stand so that we could see. I’m not a huge fan, but I found myself bopping along to the more dancey songs. The crowd was what I expected it to be based on the Adam posts you read on the concert threads. It felt like a big campy party to me. We felt out of place, but his fans were loving it.
My husband didn’t experience this, probably because he had his earplugs in, but I thought Adam started to sound like a munchkin (helium voice) about halfway through. The shrieks before the encore really scared me. I put my fingers in my ears as we walked out to protect my ears. I’ve never experienced that.
I agree with both of you about ‘not getting it’. I don’t understand his appeal and I wonder how mainstream he can become based on the type of show he does. I imagine him ending up in Vegas doing an elaborate show where people will have to go there to see him. He DOES seem like a genuinely nice person and I love him for the things he’s done for Allison.
I can’t believe that neither of you have commented on SYTYCD. There are a couple of disappointed, but kind, comments on the thread that I can’t really disagree with… OhMyRawrr at 7:48 am and TwigLA at 8:55 am. http://mjsbigblog.com/so-you-think-you-can-dance-7-top-6-redux-results.htm/comment-page-2#comments
ETA: See my new ‘bottom-line’ post below
TwigLA said her voice sounded shot. I really hope that’s not the case and that she can bring it back. I agree with her about the staging. I wanted them to interact but I don’t think they should have been right next to each other the whole time. Ori should have been back and off to the side a bit, imo (ETA: It started like this). Allison should have been featured.
I agree with you. I hope she puts herself and her career first and does whatever she needs to do to take care of herself. Tour be damned.
I’ve looked at SYTYCD a few more times today. I think the bottom line is that Allison looked nervous to me. Nobody wants to watch someone who’s nervous. She doesn’t look nervous on tour. I thought she seemed pretty confident on Lopez. I hope she can get over it.
Of course all of this is easy for me to say, but if it were me up there, I would be a basket case!
Hmm… I really think that I will see/hear this tonight. This was not how our show was at all (at least I didn’t think so.)
It should be interesting to see. I think he has a large size core fan base that will follow him anywhere, but how much he will attract the average listener I don’t know. His singles so far have done really well. I think these days though anyone with a catchy dance song seems to be a hit. Speaking of which, do you guys think Alli would have had more success if Robot Love would have been a single? Not the best vocally, but it is fun/catchy and the lyrics are relatable. What about One More Reason (love the “one more reason why I… HATE you!)
ETA: I do love Adam’s continuous support of Allison. It is good to know that she has him in her corner. I am sure he offers her great advice too.
Sorry I was just trying to stay out of the comments for a while. I think I need a break. Lol. I watched the performance, but didn’t listen (didn’t really care after reading about the sound issues/voice promblems). Just wanted to see what she was wearing. Loved the pants and jacket! The top was too frilly. Come on man. We want tight stuff. She pulls it off so well. When I first saw the pants I thought to myself “how did she get in those and will she be able to get out of them.” Those things looked glued to her. Also, how does she walk in those killer shoes? I am almost 5 foot 9 so I can’t walk in shoes like this. They looked awesome though! One complaint though: why did they sweep her bangs over her eye? It is not like this one the tour. It only seems to happen when she is on TV. Lol. (sorry Jordison for so much girly talk!)
I would be a nervous wreck if all I had to do was just stand up there and do nothing. Haha!
I think these TV performances make her nervous. I was thinking about this and I bet it has something to do with Idol and all of the criticism you take on the show. Being on a stage like that must make her feel like she is back there. She never looks nervous on tour.
Forgot to ask you guys: Do you think they might put Alli on vocal rest? I know even some people on the idol tour have to go on this (I think Katherine McPhee did.) This tour has a similar schedule and set length. Maybe they should do this for one of the weeks that Ori is still there next month.
Last post for the day (ok unless I have to write a review when I get home ;) )
I don’t know if you are interested, but Alli Lurker I uploaded the Alli/Ori hug and shout-out after DWTP. It is short and sweet!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cThcqVTmCkE
I might be getting into trouble on the SYTYCD thread, trying to defend Allison. Yikes! This one person just kept elaborating on how terrible she thought Allison was and I couldn’t take it anymore. I wouldn’t be surprised if MJ deleted my last post. We need PRM!!! Somebody send out the bat signal!
Where the F is jordison? He’s the one who wanted her to be on this f’in show! LOL!
Lauren – Thank you for the video. I’ll respond to your other posts later today.
Lauren – I totally forgot you were going to the San Diego show tonight… Its probably too late to tell you, but I hope you have a great time! Can’t wait to hear all about it!
Quick post! About to leave!
Thanks Alli Lurker for the well wishes :)
See what I mean about needing a break. Lol. I just didnt want to ruin my day by reading that crap. Maybe later, but not now. Be careful not to get banned. Lol. If something were to happen be sure to email MJ she can be lenient especially on first time offenders.
Look forward to more talk from you later Alli Lurker. Of course you too Jordison; when you can.
Bye!(about to be caught)
Tweet from Dave I:
Oops! I guess I better stop trashing this song…. (I think I can still trash the video though, LOL)
I only think YDKM, D, and Pieces should be singles.
I’m not sure how bad off she really is… Her voice may have sounded bad last night because she was nervous. She sounded different when she sang Scars on Idol, too. At the very least I think she should consult with a doctor and follow his or her recommendation. If she needs to rest, I’m sure they could find another band to fill in temporarily (or permanently, if necessary)
Could someone please get this girl a hair clip? Jesus Christ, how many times do we have to go though this?
I’m done making excuses for Allison. I think its time for tough love. She’s had all these opportunities handed to her and she keeps screwing them up, imo. Does she want to be successful or not? Does she want to continue singing as a career or not? It’s really up to her to solve this problem. I don’t know if she’ll get another opportunity to be on national TV, but if she does, she better be prepared.
Haha! I don’t know what it is about the tv show performances. I am not sure who does her hair on the tour so maybe this was a different stylist.
I understand where you are coming from. There always seems to be something wrong: her hair/wardrobe/sound mix/vocal quality/nerves/bad camera angles/spazzing etc. I don’t think that it is a lack of her desire to be successful or a lack of effort/hard work on her part. I know that for me I can tell myself a million times not to get nervous about something and when the moment arises I still end being nervous. All of my “preparation” usually goes out the window! Maybe at this time it is simply just needing more experience. I often forget how young she is and the fact that she really is just starting out. I don’t know we; we could dissect this all night (morning I guess!)
As for the show tonight I am debating whether to write my thoughts/review now. I feel it will (naturally) be a long one and I am not sure if my fingers and eyeballs can handle it. I will post this for now, but am not sure if I will start the next post. I did take video again and with NO talking this time. LOL. Video quality sucks, but the audio isn’t too bad. I just don’t have a very high quality camera. Oh well gave it my best for the Alli fans.
Saw these awesome SYTYCD pics at the alliholics http://www.alliholics.com/2010/07/29/allison-iraheta-performs-on-so-you-think-you-can-dance-with-orianthi/
Some faves:
(Holy cow look at those shoes!)
http://www.alliholics.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/6.jpeg
(Start a band! Start a band!)
http://www.alliholics.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/18.jpeg
(look alli lurker (just realized I had been capitalizing your name and it shouldn’t be. Whoops!) our new favorite artist!)
http://www.alliholics.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/11.jpeg
Just want you guys to know we’re in the middle of a major housecleaning exercise, one that we can’t put off. My time and access to the computer is very limited right now.
I want to write some thoughtful comments on the SYTYCD performance, as well as the tour review that I owe, but I don’t want to rush them.
As a quick summary though, I agree with most of the comments about the TV performance. The first second killed it for me, as Allison had this really un-Allison like look on her face. Was she nervous, exhausted, upset, or just not ready and surprised that they were on so quickly? I think they may not have had enough rehearsal time to work out timing and blocking issues. Did Allison stay up too late at the fair, or socializing with friends from home? She looked really exhausted. This was so not like the happy bubbly Allison that we know and love. But, after watching the video again, it may suck compared to what we’re used to from the tour and compared to every DWTP we’ve ever heard, acoustic or electric, but it wasn’t as bad as I thought. If people weren’t familiar with DWTP, they might have actually been impressed. But, there was nothing in the performance to make people like Allison as a person, the way we have grown to like her. As I said, her spirit, or personality, just didn’t come across. I just happen to like the happy, bouncy, moving around Allison.
Performers have had sub-standard performances on TV many times, and they have survived to perform another day. This may not have been a career changer, but I don’t think it was a career breaker.
Finally, and this belongs in my tour review, my wife still says that Allison’s vocal technique is still wrong, and she worries that she’s going to develop nodes on her vocal cords.
That was more than I planned to say.
I am here! A long review is on its way. (I will put it in sections so feel free to skip anything)
Before the show:
We were in the car driving there with my directions I got from mapquest and as we got closer to the theatre I was not sure if we were going the right way. Also, bumper to bumper traffic because we were almost into downtown San Diego. I was practically having a meltdown in the car. Lol. If I would have been wearing sneakers I think I could have run there faster. The pressure of being there for the opening act! Luckily we were not too far away and were able to find the theatre. We got into the lobby of the theatre (after navigating a very small and claustrophobic parking garage and going on two different elevators to find this place) around 7:10. I decided to give it another try and get an Alli shirt. Once again no formal single file lines. Be prepared to get pushy. As we were waiting some guy came by with a giant camera. I thought “great we are going to be on the news” (found out later while eavesdropping, something I did a lot of during the night (LoL) and will have more on that later, that the people were filming for Adam’s E! True Hollywood story. Already? Ok.) Anyways I got my shirt. Yippeee! As soon as I got it though I heard this sound. Ahhh it was the intro to Allison. I ran like a bat out of hell up the stairs. I feel so bad because I left my grandma and mom practically in the dust. My mom knew where I was going though. I may have almost knocked some guy over on the way up the stairs too. Haha! If you go again alli lurker, on a night with Alli and Ori, make sure to get there a half hour before the scheduled time. I think any show she was added onto that has Ori will be like this. It has happened at 5 or 6 shows already.
Allison’s Set:
Goodness I still can’t get over how fast this goes by. Once again the place was not very crowded. I hate these early starts. Still better than her not being there at all though. I think the acoustics were much better tonight (I also wasn’t freezing to death like Wednesday.) I think Alli’s voice sounded better tonight too. She still had some trouble with Heartbreaker in the same spot as wed. It is weird to me because the part she has problems with is not one that has big high notes or anything. I don’t know. I have to say that I was in love with Scars. Her voice was much richer on this song tonight. I really wanted her to do the whole thing. Maybe she should consider doing the entire song and dropping Heartbreaker. She says she wants to keep the energy up, but her voice is stunning on this song and I don’t think the audience would mind. Actually the audience may like this side to her more. I have read comments about this in the past.This makes me want to hear acoustic No One Else more than ever! As for stage presence, Allison has improved on this a lot. She works the stage like a pro (it was cute when she was doing robot moves during Robot Love) and she has really toned down the spazziness. She is much less frenetic. I can only imagine where she will be in a few years. I believe you made a comment alli lurker about the band and I see what you mean about the other 2 bands sounding richer. It is too bad because I don’t think it has anything to do with talent, just priorities. I loved watching Val really getting into the drums during Heartbreaker. Practically head banging!
1st intermission:
Just a few quick mentions here. I was standing in the mile long line for the bathroom and was listening to the ladies around me. “Oh Allison already went?” yep! “She is so talented, but I didn’t like that song she did on SYTYCD last night. The sound was not good.” Grrr… I guess this SYTYCD performance will doing nothing for her. “This is the first concert I have been to since 1973.” “Adam’s voice is so beautiful. He is amazing. Blah, Blah, Blah.” Yeah, yeah! Saw some interesting wardrobe choices while wandering the hallways. This older couple (there were a lot of older couples tonight) had on denim jackets with metallic rhinestones on it and a picture of Adam on the back. Another lady was wearing this small red top hat that had a lot of glitter and these weird light strings sticking out of it. Of course the usual gloves and glitter.
Ori’s set:
I thought she did a great job! She has more stage presence than she is given credit for. She doesn’t move around as much as Alli, but she was into the songs. I did think though that her set was the hardest to hear the singing in. Band was way too loud and on a few songs I couldn’t understand her. My favorites were According to You, Suffocated and probably Think Like a Man or Bad News. I believe she said that Courage would be her next single. My thought was “good luck with that.” We know how these more slow/heartfelt songs do on the radio today. No dance beat? We don’t want to hear it! Gerry came out for one of the songs (maybe Courage) does he always do this? I will say though that it would have been better had they removed maybe 1 song from the set and given that time to Alli. I know you think her set is fine Jordison, and for the most part I would agree, just 1 less from her would make it feel it a little less drastic in set times.
Adam’s set:
The screams were loud! I felt overall that Adam was better tonight as well. It was nice because the people in my section sat the whole time (except for the encore) so I could see. I don’t like the first 2 songs that he sings. They are bonus songs and I think it is not the best choice to start the show because a lot of people don’t know them. My mom said she heard someone say that they thought these songs were ones that were going to be on his next album. I liked the same songs as last time (Fever,Sleepwalker, If I Had You) and would add Music Again. When he was doing Soaked I was trying so hard not to laugh at the women sitting in front of me. I think I was witnessing people having “adamgasms” Lol. The one lady was running her fingers through her hair in disbelief and the other was practically shaking she couldn’t handle it. All I heard were a bunch of “Oh my gods!” I was trying my best to contain myself. Haha! At one point the camera man was sweeping the audience in the balcony and everyone went nuts. I may end up in the background of the ETHS show. Lol. Adam is definitely very talented and overall puts on a good show. I certainly can’t say anything bad about his vocal abilities. He is impressive.
Post show:
So as we were walking to the car we discussed the show (I was sitting by myself due to the fact that there were no tickets sold in 3s). My grandma liked Adam the best. She thought Ori was too loud and too much rock for her. My mom missed most of Allison and also liked Adam the best. When we were in the car they made more comments about how amazing Adam’s voice is. “Most people don’t sing like that live…He was has a beautiful voice…I couldn’t believe how good he sounded on that one song (soaked)” Then on the way home my mom wanted to listen to the Adam CD we got (to check out his songs on the drive.) OMG I think my mom may now be a GLAMBERT. Oh no! She wants to go again!
Additional thoughts:
The crowd was loud and enthusiastic waiting for the encore. I hope that someday Alli can get that kind of love. I wish there was a way we could gather all of the diehard fans like us and go to a show. Be as loud as possible. She would love it and I would love to see it! One day…
No problem! I look forward to it when you have the time. I think I may need to go do some of this (cleaning) too. Lol.
It may be a combo of pretty much everything you stated Jordison. I am tired from just going to 2 shows this week. Lol. Let alone her having to travel and actually perform. As she has more experience she may be able to find the right balance and be better at pacing herself. Maybe the rehearsal was a factor too. You guys know that this was pre-recorded right? They probably threw her out there and rushed her along.
Also, not to sound too superficial, but in the photos I linked above does it look like Alli isn’t wearing that much makeup? She is still gorgeous I just thought for TV they would have been more dramatic.
It’s very frustrating to feel like the Alli we see most of the time isn’t the one that a national tv audience ever sees. She is so likeable and a million other positive adjectives and it is never seen at the big moments, then people make complaints about her because they don’t ever watch the small stuff (acoustic performances/interviews etc.)
I think she needs to develop an alter ego like Beyonce’s “Sasha Fierce” – her stage persona. Or maybe she should just take a valium before every TV appearance.
I don’t think any of these things should matter. I don’t think a true professional lets their audience see any of that. I guess she’s just not that far along yet.
I actually wonder if she’s intimidated by Orianthi. It kind of looks that way in the pictures Lauren linked. Allison looks kind of timid in those, I think. Again, not like herself.
That’s definitely true. I felt kind of meh afterward.
There been quite a build up for these, lol. I hope they’re worth the wait!
Haha! I thought the same thing when I heard about that. I wonder if the record companies pay them to do it?
Those were probably my comments. I have always said this. She was most successful on Idol w/ the heartfelt songs. I have only recently started enjoying the “in your face” stuff. I used to skip Holiday on the CD all the time. Still not crazy about all the shouting she does.
LOL! My husband and I shared quite a few eye rolls during Adam’s set. Did he share with the audience all the “things he’s learned about relationships”?
Hahaha! I guess you’ll know for sure if she starts dressing like a prostitute! Sorry – I just remember going outside during intermission and there were all these skinny women in high heels and sequined outfits standing around smoking (so much for fresh air!). They all looked like prostitutes to me.
Really? They should have let her do another take!
Thanks! This was bothering me a teensie bit, but I didn’t want to correct you!
Thanks so much for the long review!
Intriguing… Any good name suggestions? Don’t look at me because I am not creative enough. LOL.
This brings up an interesting idea. I wonder if she is having doubts or feels out of place at these “bigger” events because she has not had the commercial success yet. I often wonder what she is really feeling. Is she just as frustrated as we are about the sales and radio play?
Haha! The pressure.
Good god the amount of money he gets them to pay for all of the promo he has. I guess with the reaction he gets at these shows they feel he is worth it.
I remember your comments alli lurker about this. I also have seen some of the Adam fans make some comments about this too. I like the “in your face” style, but definitely agree about the shouting. She has been doing this more lately on songs. I think she is trying to reduce the amount of singing she does. Don’t like it, but I understand.
Yes! I was doing eyerolls like crazy. He did mention the relationships. Something about relationships suck and loving yourself. Whatever! Too much rehearsed banter with the audience if you ask me. I also don’t need all of this “inspirational” talk. Just be in the moment and interact with the crowd. Allison is usually good at this if she has the time. I love the Heartbreaker video from your show where she decides to sing to the guy in the front who won’t sing along with her. Hysterical!
Umm, don’t think she will be dressing like this. LOL. Now if she wants some fingerless gloves and glitter I will be scared. I saw women like this at both shows. The high heels were very popular. I can’t walk in them so I don’t bother.
Yeah I think Liz tweeted being done recording the show 2 or 3 hours before it aired. I wish they would have, but since it was only done a little while before airing there probably wasn’t any time.
Sorry again. I am a little embarrassed. I am just so used to capitalizing a proper name. I think I have been messing up jordison’s too! Any other issues let me know! I don’t want to keep doing something that might get annoying :)
No problem. Thanks for reading it :)
alli lurker have you decided whether you are going to the show in Albuquerque?
Lastly, saw this on twitter and thought it was cute.
Allison:
I always knew I had that natural model pose!!
http://tweetphoto.com/36068201
Testing…
Slightly old topic (why was I lurking?!) ,but I was curious what your thoughts were on Allison’s album cover. I don’t know if you guys ever saw these pictures that surfaced from the album photo shoot.
http://idolforums.com/index.php?showtopic=594575&st=9200
scroll to post #9214 and see additional photos (holy smokes Alli has really shaped up since these!
1.5 years ago:
http://www.americanidol.com/photos/season_8/performances/top_4_rock_week/41943/
http://www.americanidol.com/photos/season_8/performances/top_9_top_downloads/41253/
Now:
http://www.alliholics.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/8.jpeg
http://qoatg.smugmug.com/Music/Glamnation-Tour-DC/12737664_z8bvK#924613968_SHgxG-A-LB
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If you are wondering what brought this up (old I know, LOL), I bought the Alli shirt at the concert mainly to support Allison, but I am not too fond of the picture they used on it. If these are just some of the choices they had I don’t understand why they went with the one they did (for the album and the shirt).
ETA: Yeah it worked! Changed to my actual name and added an avi.
Warning, this is very long, and I ramble. I’m posting this without editing it, because my computer time is limited and I wanted to get it in here. Here goes:
Ok, as promised here is my trip report for Costa Mesa, Day 2.
Well my wife, son and I arrived in Orange County at 4:00 PM, and had a delightful gourmet dining experience at the very exclusive Red Robin, adjacent to the South Coast Plaza. Our goal was to finish in time to catch the 5:20 PM Chinese Acrobat performance at the fair. We took the suggested route to the fairgrounds to avoid traffic, almost missed our turnoff to the back road alongside the fairgrounds, which would have forced us onto a gridlocked freeway, backed up in traffic to make our turn (a ballsy move) and got to the fairgrounds without further incident.
Once we were parked we realized that we didn’t know where the hell we were relative to the amphitheatre. We unloaded my wife’s wheelchair, which is used for heavy walking and standing occasions such as this one, and took off looking for the proper gate. We found the back entrance to the amphitheatre, near the buses, along with a smattering of Glamberts waiting for who knows what. I left my wife and son to go explore for an entrance and eventually discovered that we had to retrace our steps (or wheels) back to the original area where we parked and enter through a general fair gate. My wife and son said that some unidentified guy (not Adam) had come by while they were waiting and several women went crazy.
We found our way back to the fair entrance, and entered the fair. We had no idea where we were or where would find the acrobats. We also noticed that it was about 20 degrees different between the sunny and shady portions of the fairgrounds, so we decided to try to follow the shade as much as possible. We also found one very noticeable landmark, the aroma of elephants from the elephant ride. We knew we could always find our way back by following the scent of the elephants. Just as we discovered the area of Chinese Acrobats, the tire of my wife’s wheelchair came off. We pushed the chair off onto a grassy area and our son, after much difficulty and a badly scraped hand, managed to put the tire back on. We then proceeded to the acrobats in time for them to take a bow and wave goodbye to the crowd.
Having missed the acrobats, we decided to stay in the shade and take the direct path to the amphitheatre, where we would wait for the gates to open. We went past some really fascinating booths, such as the 3 Pairs of Shoes for $20 (or was it 20 pairs of shoes for $3.00?) booth. We arrived at the entrance to PA (too much trouble to spell it out each time) and settled in to wait for the gates to open. Just as the gates were about to open, my wife asked if I’d remembered to bring the earplugs. Well of course I’d left them in the trunk of the car. “Don’t worry” she said, “we’ll do fine without them.” Knowing how fussy my wife is, I knew that if she couldn’t tolerate the sound the evening would be hell for all of us. Our son wanted to know how much I paid for the earplugs. I knew that if my wife knew that I paid $15 a piece at Guitar Center for 3 sets of top quality high fidelity ear plugs she would kill me. So, without any further conversation I insisted on going back to the car, retraced my steps past the inviting aroma of the elephants, out to the car to retrieve the precious plugs.
When I got back to the PA, the gates had opened and people were going in. My wife was on the cell phone, talking to her sister, and she was not to be disturbed. After what seemed like a half hour we entered the gates, into the sunny PA. Our seats were in the very last row, slightly left of center. I noticed that from this vantage point even the 2 video screens seemed small. There was so much sun on the stage that we could hardly make out anything. There were a smattering of people in the seats. My son and I headed for the refreshment stand and we got 2 beers and a bottle of water for “only” $21.50. I thanked my son for donating his entire day’s jury duty pay to partially pay for the 3 drinks.
I must admit that, with all the buildup I was expecting most people to be dressed up like they were going to the Rocky Horror Picture Show. To my surprise, most of the people around us were dressed like “normal people.” There was a mix of all ages, with a fair amount of elderly, as well as some teenagers. There were 3 teenage boys who sat in front of us who were really rocking out to Orianthi. Still, way more women than men. And yes alli lurker, there were some women dressed like prostitutes.
I started to get really nervous at 7:30, as there was still glare on the stage. Fortunately, Alli’s band didn’t come out until 7:35, just as the glare had left. Now, if I really wanted to exercise my “exploding ego,” I would say that when I saw Allison come out in the pants and suspenders outfit I thought it was because she reads our threads and knew we would be there and wanted to please us. But even I won’t go that far!
About 2 seconds after Holiday started my wife screamed “give me the earplugs now!” I knew it. My son and I were perfectly OK without the ear plugs for Allison’s set. I thought the sound was loud, no problem with me or my son, and the mix was OK. The drums and bass were loud, but we could hear the vocals just fine from our position. When I had talked to the Guest Relations manager he mentioned that the PA was designed so that the sound in the back was quite good, maybe better than in some other locations.
I won’t repeat what I said in my other thread, other than my wife remarked that Allison looked great, but her singing technique was still wrong. Singing from the throat, not the “mask.” She noticed that Alli had lowered some of her notes, and I said that probably was to protect her voice. My wife said it didn’t matter, she can still harm herself with the low notes. She said the best singers (pop and rock included, not just classical) don’t have to open their mouths real wide to get the sound. She put her hand above her mouth and said “it’s all placed here.” I still don’t pretend to understand it completely. My wife, BTW, was coached for years by (now deceased) one of the top classical vocal coaches in the country. My wife sang opera with Thomas Hampson at USC, so, although opinionated, she does know a little bit about this stuff.
I thought Alli was really energetic our night, but, like Lauren said, I almost had a heart attack when she died out in the middle of Heartbreaker. The PA continued to fill during her set, and by the time she finished there were a pretty good number of people in the seats. The folks up front were rocking out. As for the others, especially around us, they seemed to be chatting and trying to find their seats, etc. Very annoying.
As I said before, I made it as far as Bad News with Ori before I had to go for the ear plugs. Real nice plugs – I guess worth the $15. Our son is real hard core and refused his plugs for the entire evening. Wouldn’t even put his sweatshirt on, while my wife and I were freezing, even with sweatshirts and jackets. He enjoyed Ori the most, while I was there for Alli, and my wife, who could only listen to but not see Adam for most his set, still liked Adam the best. She thinks he has a wonderful, trained voice, and has excellent technique. But, to be clear, she is not a Glambert and is not into the cult part of Adamania.
Anyway, we stayed through the encore, made our way out of the fairgrounds without much difficulty, past the aroma of the now departed elephants, back to our car, and out of the parking lot with very little congestion.
Well, there you have it. If you fell asleep reading this I don’t blame you. I thought it was much more interesting the first time I wrote it, but I’m not in a very good mood with a sore back after cleaning for a couple days.
Later.
ETA – When we got home my wife said if we hadn’t been able to fix the tire on the wheelchair we would have had to go back home, because there was no way she would sit in a rental wheelchair.
Hah! Like that would have happened.
Getting back to the SYTYCD performance: I wish Alli had worn the pants and suspenders and had her hair like the night before. The hair problem on TV drives me crazy. People need to see her face!
I watched the video again, and, if we weren’t so familiar with all the other DWTP performances, it wouldn’t have been so bad. Maybe we’re too close to the subject and that makes us so critical. Compared to some of the other awful guest performances on these type of shows by other performers, it really wasn’t bad. If it ends up helping her, then I don’t care. Allison has plenty more opportunities to perform. She just needs to work on her “TV persona” and protect her voice.
BTW, Lauren, you can call me jordison, or Jordison, or anything else you want, and I don’t care. :)
I once jokingly asked alli lurker if I could call her “AL”, “lurker” or “lurkie” (actually, I don’t remember specifically what I said) for short, and she got really upset. :)
Jordison your review was hysterical! I was practically dying of laughter in some parts.
Just some of the comments that had me rolling!
I agree that the sound is loud, but for me I thought Alli’s set was the least loud of the 3. I don’t get the complaints that hers is the worst.
Man this really concerns me. I have seen interviews with Allison stating that she “wasn’t singing properly” before idol, but post show she had gotten some vocal coaching. Who the heck is helping this girl? I am not sure if you know jordison, but what about when Adam sings with his mouth real wide (and practically sticking his tongue out), is this different?
It was soooo cold! This really put a damper on my enjoyment of the show.
Sounds like a win-win-win situation. Glad each of you enjoyed the show! Don’t worry I believe you about your wife not being a Glambert ;) I wouldn’t really say my mom is one either, despite the comment I made above. She really did enjoy his performance. I think this is just more her style/taste than Alli or Ori. I am still going to give her a hard time though. All the resistance and she loved it!
I loved the pants and jacket that she wore on the show. The top was ok, but I do think the suspenders are so fun! I was reading some of the comments about the performance and one person’s single comment was “Allison get your hair out of your face.” Ugh. Only happens on TV. Why does she almost never wear her hair up?
I know exactly what you mean. We have seen so many different performances of the song that it makes comparing too easy. I am sure up against other performers (Christian TV I am looking at you!) she looks fantastic, but unfortunately I don’t think this one is memorable enough to really help her. But onwards and upwards I guess.
Haha! Thanks. I will stick with jordison unless starting out a sentence (it saves time. lol)
Umm… I remember this. Lol. I was lurking remember ;)I am now a little scared there are other lurkers reading my ramblings!
“Whatever!” LOL! Yep, he probably says the same thing at every show.
What I really love about the Denver vids is that they captured what Allison said before each song. I really like that for some reason, and you don’t see it very often on other vids.
I love the cover, the picture, and the color. I like her expression in the picture and I like what she’s wearing. I thought it was smart marketing to have her wearing the ethnic/spanish looking accessories. The belt thing reminded me of Shakira.
I take it you don’t like the cover?
They probably could have gotten more creative with the t shirts, though.
LOL! I like Red Robin when its not filled with screaming children… which is never!
… a smattering of Glamberts… too funny!
LOL! Hmm… maybe weird is the new normal! Or maybe its because you were in the back. The hardcore crazies are up front.
Maybe you’re right. I don’t think the camera work was very good, either. It could have been a lot of things, but I still think she herself needs to come across better. People talk about how a concert performance is different than a TV performance. Now she’s really good in concert and not as good on TV. She used to be really good on TV, so I think she needs to work with whoever prepped her for the Idol performances to get her back to where she was.
Seriously, who wants to be called “lurkie”? LOL! And AL is my dad’s name, so that’s out…
I once said ALK would be okay (this was around the same time we christened LDR), but nobody uses it. (LDR got it wrong and called me ALR). Maybe I should change it to something one syllable like Rub or rub. Or maybe a symbol like #, *, or $.
No, I’m not. Its on a Tuesday. It would be easier if it were on a weekend.
Maybe we’re really big in Malaysia! :)
ETA: Is that your doggie in the avi? Very cute!
Sounds like a good night in Arizona… and a new outfit!
Merrycello Crowd freaking out over seeing Allison in wings
Merrycello Chanting for ali
MonicaJM2001 they chanted Allison when she began
ZoniDuck Awesome! Acoustic No One Else. She sounds AMAZING!!!
ZoniDuck Scars into Don’t Waste the Pretty. They sound great. Good response from the crowd! Loving the extended set.
MonicaJM2001 omfg she is awefreakingsome. Allison is the shit!
Merrycello Allison on fire! Heartbreaker INSANE energy!
NoAngelPF LOL Alli’s band tossed pics, setlists into audience. & Alli’s 1/2empty waterbottle. Woman who caught it drank the rest… O__o
Hey alli lurker we are almost on at the same time!
I like that stuff too, but I think with the shorter set she doesn’t say much. I cant think of anything she even said during both of mine. Maybe the cute mention of Ori in the video I posted. She doesn’t have any time to interact. I swear in San Diego she practically ran off the stage. Lol. She must have a real tight schedule to keep.
I like the cover, but after seeing some of the other pictures I would have chosen a different one. In the link I gave to the alternate pictures I really liked the one where she was holding the guitar and leaning up against the wall. All in all though, it is a pretty good cover. I do like the FIBOU single cover better though.
Yep. Nothing wrong with Red Robin. I am sure it was better than the chicken sandwich and awful pretzel I had. I don’t know what I was thinking with the pretzel. The cold must have affected my thinking. The frozen yogurt I had was delicious (outrageously expensive though. $4.75 and all I thought afterwards was I could have got one at Costco for $1.50)
Maybe it is that she doesn’t know how (or forgot how) to play to the cameras. She is often in her own world and may not pay enough attention to the camera blocking/angles.
Haha! Makes sense.
I think you are good. I would get confused with a symbol. Lol. It would be hard to spot in a post. I am not creative enough for these board names. Some people have such great names.
Well at least we all got to see her!
Yes. Thanks! I was tired of the blue square. Lol. I had to look up how to get this thing even added. I thought you do it here, but you don’t.
Hope there is video especially with the intro to Holiday so we can hear the crowd reaction. I am glad that there is no time change tonight. The last few shows had to be disappointing playing to many empty seats.
New dress (man don’t move too much Alli. Wardrobe malfunction is highly likely. Lol)
http://twitpic.com/2av12a
Well hello, there!
I do NOT like the FIBOU cover. I don’t think that picture looks like her.
I don’t like the front page of her website, either. Maybe because that pic is so prominent. But the whole thing looks like its designed for little kids. I liked it better before they redesigned it.
Okay, going to sleep now.
I can see what you mean about the FIBOU cover, but I would say the same about the album cover. LOL. I don’t know how to describe it, but there is this weird almost wax figure type quality to the color of her skin. It looks like a painting or something. They didn’t do this to the pics inside the booklet.I think this is my biggest problem with it; not so much the picture itself just the weird effects/quality. I forgot what the old website even looked like. Haha! The pic with her sitting on the amp is good I think.
Going to sleep now too.
Yes! A masterpiece! LOL!
I think it has a very artsy feel about it. Love it.
The picture on the amp is cute, but I think she looks really young in that one. Love the boots and jacket. I really like the other picture because its black and white, plus she looks older, imo. What I really don’t like are the graphics behind the pictures. Maybe they were going for a 70’s vibe, but to me it reminds me of those Rainbow Brite (?) dolls you see advertised during Saturday morning cartoons. I think the site needs updating for adults.
Eta: Removed last paragraph… bitching too much…
Haha!
I can see that. I guess I like her more edgy/rock looks.
Damn I missed it! Lol. I don’t mind bitching ;)
Any posts you guys want to write would be greatly appreciated. I am getting my wisdom teeth taken out today. They are not impacted so the dentist says I only need Novocaine. Ok Doc. Whatever you say! I explained profusely I may have the world’s lowest pain tolerance level. Lol. It could go 1 of two ways: I am near dying and wont post at all or bored to death that I can’t stop posting. We shall see.
Have a great day!
Poor you! Its probably done by now… hope it wasn’t too bad. Did you have 4? I only had two and I had the gas. That’s pretty nice, no nasty memories, but you get pretty loopy. I remember that the friend who came with me almost passed out when she saw the bloody gauze in my mouth. She had to put her head between her legs! Ah… dental memories…
Jim C’s Allison interview is up. I asked MJ to start a thread.
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1644936/20100802/iraheta_allison.jhtml
I am alive! I had 3. The procedure wasn’t too bad, but the aftermath has been less than stellar. I am still numb 4 and half hours later. I think I got 5 or 6 shots. I am about to take some vicodin as soon as I can feel my tongue. Lol. Then I will probably be out!
I can only imagine. Lol
Oh thanks! I am laughing when I shouldn’t be. I have gauze in right now. Soooo gross. The endless drool and no spiting rule also suck. I will be happy when it is the weekend for sure!
Just thought I would bring over this cute picture of Alli. Look mom “no bangs!”
http://www.flickr.com/photos/47277849@N05/4852362657/in/set-72157624635753198/
Quite a dress last night!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0yCNj94u04
Getting sick of us? Lol
Great interview. Wonder how much more her and Ori have talked about this since this interview is from NY in June. We all love the shirt Alli so no worries there. Haha! Also, I can only imagine how much it hurts to have you belly button pierced. No thanks!
Ok I know there is a new thread, but hoopefully you guys will still check back here. I go to look in the new thread and the first two comments (other than the one from the wonderful PRMari) are negative. Geez Louise. Some people act like Allison is an alien: she is an odd person/her interviews are weird/etc. Huh? I just dont get it.
I came back to get you, and was going to say the same thing about those comments. I swear to god there is one or two people who just wait for any opportunity to bash her. I think they change their name all the time, too. It REALLY pisses me off!!
I’m so used to how Allison is. I’m glad she feels comfortable enough to answer honestly. I thought it was a great interview. (Although I do think Jim C is gay for Kris and could really care less about Allison. Just sayin… here in the basement!)
Here’s a thought… maybe she could get the bangs “trimmed” – that’s where they cut them shorter, lol. I thought the bangs looked great when she started the tour in Wilkes Barre, btw.
I like it. It almost looks like a dress you can work out in – like its made of spandex or something.
Aww… thanks alli lurker.
Sing it! I just get so fed up. Some people don’t like Allison. Guess what? WE GET IT!
Yep! They act like she is the strangest thing ever.
Let’s stay here just for a bit until the other thread is a little older. I will post there and respond to comments, but also post here on other things until the other is older.
Somebody’s likin’ the basement! Hahaha! Okay I’ll check back here, too.
She’s getting good comments now. Its nice to see.
Sorry missed your earlier post alli lurker. Guess it was too close to mine in time. Still awake despite the drugs. I am surprised. Guess my tolerance is higher than I thought. lol.
Haha! This would work too. I like seeing her sometimes without bangs. That is the good thing about bangs you can put them back when you don’t want them.
Yeah it looks stretchy. I think she has good fashion sense when she picks out her own clothes. Makes me think those pesky stylists chose the puffy dresses we don’t like.
I love it here! Plus we have to wait for jordison. lol. How many posts can we rack up here? The number is getting pretty high!
I loved the one by beckysspam. Maybe we are onto something special. I often feel like I am seeing/hearing something different than other people when it comes to Allison. I understand everyone has different tastes so Alli may not be for them, but some comments can be so ridiculous. Weird exaggerations or major insults.
ETA: alli lurker that was nice of MJ to start a new thread after she already attached the interview in the evening headlines thread. She really does her best to make all the fans happy. She is one hard working woman.
I liked that one, too. I also like the ones from teachers who say she’s just like any other kid. Yes, but her talent in definitely special and I think she has a lot of charisma.
Yep, MJ’s been very good to us. I like her a lot. (I didn’t know the interview was already in the headlines thread, btw. I usually only scan the first few headlines, but don’t open the thread.)
So… I wonder if jordison hurt his back with all the cleaning this weekend? He might not be able to get to the computer. I hope he’s okay.
I’m going to be away from the computer most of the day. Hope your recovery is progressing nicely.
Starting in this thread first…
Thanks alli lurker. I am doing pretty well. No more vicodin for me. Lol. That stuff made me nauseous all day. I also look like a chipmunk. Haha!
Goodness I hope he is alright. Maybe he is just lurking. Hey jordison! :)
Any thoughts on this new deal with Universal and Idol?
Some comments in the thread about Allison being the most in danger. I wish we could just get an answer from JIVE. Second album or no? I hate all of the angsting over it. Just tell me! I have seen some of the names on their roster and I have not heard of maybe half of them. Sure a lot have been selling more than Alli has, but I find it hard to believe that she is the lowest selling artist on their label (I know there are also other factors. We don’t know the cost to produce each artist’s album, but just roughly looking at sales.) If there is no second album I want her to be able to start looking elsewhere. (Besides I am really impatient and dying to hear something new. Lol)
ETA: just read the other thread and I don’t think I need to say anything because ggdoorsfan said it all. Awesome post! Some people can articulate my thoughts so much better. lol.
Allison always talks about working on her next album. I don’t know if its just talk, or if she knows for sure that there will be one. I know it always makes me feel good to hear her talk about it!
I have no idea what the Universal thing will mean for Allison. I’m not sure that Jive is the best fit for her, so if she ends up somewhere else it could be a good thing. I agree with Rub when he says that the Idol demographic is not her demographic. It would probably be a good thing for her to break away (and then maybe we wouldn’t have read all the bs comments we see about her on this blog!). Maybe she’ll end up where Orianthi is – if they end up joining forces. I wonder if they are still talking about that. I’m surprised that Allison has talked so openly about it. She usually keeps that kind of stuff under wraps. (Maybe she’s just trying to make it happen by talking about it.)
That Jim C interview is pretty old… When they talked to Allison and Orianthi after the SYTYCD performance, I don’t think they said anything about working together in the future – did they? Orianthi was talking about working on her own album. Has Orianthi ever talked about it? It seems to me like she could play guitar for almost anyone. I would love to see her work with Allison, though.
*Maybe we should keep this as the basement thread. That MTV thread does funky stuff to my computer. Maybe that’s why MJ didn’t start a thread with it initially.
Hey guys, I’m exhausted. This is never going to end. Long overdue, but we need to do this while our son is still home to help (or do most of the heavy work!). He’ll be going up North a week from Friday. In the meantime, my back is sore, but I’m OK. Mostly lurking now, as my computer time is limited. I can’t even keep up with the daily tour threads.
I did read the stuff from the latest Alli thread and I agree that ggdoorsfan pretty much says it all. Not much I could add to any of the conversation. And, Rub really wants Alli to go hardcore. I don’t know if she’s really that badass by nature. As far as the situation with the record labels, I don’t have a clue. But, I know a lot of people with influence in the music business, not associated with Jive or 19, have said very nice things about Allison. I’d be shocked if someone didn’t pick up on the opportunity to sign her if she became available.
I still think that the Alli-Ori collaboration would be great, for more than one reason. Of course, they could do great music together. But, also, on a tour, if they had the right balance of songs, Allison could preserve her voice. One song with heavy vocals, followed by another with mostly guitar and a little vocal support, back and forth – would give Allison more opportunity to protect her voice than having to go full tilt through an entire set.
Finally, interesting that Rub liked the SYTYCD performance – maybe because it had a “rougher edge” to it. The latest article also seemed to like the chemistry in the TV performance, while we, however, seemed to focus on the lack of the usual chemistry. At this point though, whatever helps sell some records and gets some more spins.
I will be lurking…
Scary! But glad to hear you’re okay. That sounds like quite a project!
I think Rub wants Allison to be what he wants her to be. I think we’re all guilty of that, but he might be a bit more extreme, lol. (He’s quite the encyclopedia of rock n roll, btw) I do agree that she shouldn’t be playing to a bunch of older women every night, though. She should be playing to more young hetero guys (who naturally will not attend an Adam Lambert concert.) I think Ori appeals to that crowd, too.
Allison can be pretty badass on stage, I think.
Me, too.
Don’t think I said anything about the Alli-Ori chemistry… I think most people like seeing them together, me included. I’m not paying close attention, but I don’t think SYTYCD has helped sales or spins too much, if at all. I blame the material more than the performance. Now if she had sung YDKM on that show… oh the sales she would have had! Hahaha.
ETA: I don’t think a lot of rock n roll type guys watch SYTYCD, either. (jordison excluded, of course.)
LOOOONG post on its way…
Sounds good to me! I really like it here (in case you haven’t noticed ;) )
I know she has mentioned it a few times, but a part of me always feels like something she is just saying. It almost seems like a vague answer and one that she uses just to get onto the next question.
Oh I agree. I don’t think they know what to do with her (which I never understood. What is it about Allison that is so darn confusing to some people?) I think she needs to be marketed more to the HAC crowd (this was JohnM’s belief right? I thought he always mentioned this.) Don’t you usually hear some alternative rock here too? All I know is that she needs more rock less pop. A pink style album would be good too.
Too true! What would we do? Keeping coming back here and end up with thousands of posts. Lol.
Good guess. If there is enough talk about it, it might be more likely to happen.
I don’t know if Orianthi has talked about it. So far it seems to come more from Alli and her fans. No doubt she could play guitar for just about anyone. I guess it is just a matter of whether she wants to be in a band or solo. I do think though that with the band format she wouldn’t sing as much (better not! She has a good voice, but I think we know who should be lead) and maybe she doesn’t like the idea of being the backup. Also, I am sure with them being on different labels makes it more difficult. It would be great for them to join forces. I think the two of them playing live would attract a lot of attention. Also, maybe the promo budgets could be combined (fans combined too) and they could get more promo. If they could write their own music too that would help. See girls it would be great all around!
Glad to hear it jordison!
Don’t worry you miss a big fat NOTHING when it comes to Alli. I have posted a few comments and they go ignored anyway. Why bother.
I don’t think so. She definitely has some in her, but she also seems to be pretty lighthearted and just a fun/spunky/energetic teenager. No doubt she can really turn it up when she is onstage, but I don’t think it is over the top.
Me too. I think if the worst were to happen and she was dropped she could get signed elsewhere. There are just too many positives when it comes to Allison. I believe it would just be a matter of how hard she wants to work. If she truly wants to keep doing music she can get signed.
No kidding! I have no clue what he is talking about a lot of the time. Lol.
That would be great. The good thing about this though it that Allison gets a lot of experience on this tour so when she does get to play for audiences like that she will be even better! I actually think Ori is the most out of place on this tour. I really enjoyed her, but her material was the most “rock” and a lot of people (at least at my shows) weren’t quite into it.
They just look so good together! Their looks are so contrasting that it makes them even more interesting.
I wish! You know I was thinking she probably doesn’t sing DIFD live because she can’t have lyric fails in that. A is for All I Want, B is for…? She can’t re-arrange or make up words. LOL.
Hahaha… that’s funny! And true! She couldn’t fake her way through that one. She’d really have to sit down and study the lyrics – or write notes on her hand (more likely).
True. I certainly don’t think this tour is hurting her. I really enjoyed the Beat Me Up video from Albuquerque, btw. She looks like such a pro now. It’ll be so cool when she headlines.
I thought Ori seemed out of place from the beginning. I didn’t think it was a good pairing to put her with Adam(?) Again, wrong demo. She’s probably glad to be done with it.
More about Ori… I really don’t think Allison needs her to do well. It would be fun, but she’ll be fine on her own. She does need a good rock band, though.
I wonder if these threads ever expire? I think we’ve been on this one longer than any other.
I don’t know, I think Allison WILL be able to break away from the Idol stigma. And I’m grateful that she was on the show, because I would not know her if not for Idol. I’m so happy I get to watch her career starting from such a young age.
My husband and I need to use some vacation time before the end of the year. We were talking about it last night and I suggested we go back to New Orleans to see the Glam Nation tour there. He said, “have fun!”…. so I guess that won’t be happening, lol. I think he was traumatized by the crowd and Adam’s show. I’m sure he would do it if it were just Allison, though. I thought it would be great to combine two things I love – Allison and New Orleans. (ETA: New Orleans will be a great venue for Adam fans, btw. There is definitely an “anything goes” vibe down there + the venue is right next to the French Quarter. I suggest they go to “The Dungeon” bar after the show – it opens at midnight – and it has all the accoutrements you would find in your standard dungeon, lol + painfully loud dance music!) I guess it would have been an easier ‘sell’ if we hadn’t already been to NOLA this year. There’s other tour stops coming up that we have connections to, but after his reaction last night I don’t think I’ll be suggesting visits. I guess I won’t see her again until she’s on a different tour. Thank goodness for videos!
You might be wondering why (or not!) I didn’t suggest using some vaca time for the NM tour stop… its because we normally go to Santa Fe and Taos in October when its absolutely gorgeous, so going in August would have been an extra trip down there. Also, Albuquerque is not included in the “absolutely gorgeous” part of New Mexico – although it’s not too far away. (ETA: And to be perfectly honest, I was afraid I would get the same reaction from my husband that I got to my New Orleans suggestion!)
I don’t think she needs her either. It just may be something that would garner her more attention right now. She may need a band though. For some reason Allison seems to be very confusing to some people. Maybe if she were fronting a band there would be less emphasis on her and her personality. I don’t know. It would be cool to see though. Would you want any of her current band members to be in it? One thread the other day mentioned it would be good for her to continue working with Dave. They appear to have a good connection.
Hmm… I never really thought of her as having a big Idol mark on her back. It almost always feels to me like most people forget you were even on the show unless you were in the final 2. On the other hand, she does get that “on American Idol” tag in a lot of her intros. Either way, I too am grateful she was on the show. At the end of the day I think anyone on the show is better off afterwards. I remember the first week of the final rounds last season. She sang “Give In to Me.” After the show I went on Dial Idol (I know not always accurate, but wanted some sort of idea of the voting breakdown) and just about died when Allison was second from the bottom in votes and 2 people were going home that week. Can you imagine if she was eliminated top 12? It really can change someone’s life the longer they are on the show.
It is a lot of fun! If she ever hits the big one we were there from the beginning!
Lol. Bummer. Sure you can’t twist his arm a little ;)
I really want to go to the one in Houston. It looks like a really nice theater.
http://www.thehobbycenter.org/sites/all/themes/hobby/virtualtours/sarofimhall/tourfiles/flash/index.html
I just went to the Alliholics and found that review you mentioned alli lurker. Interesting comments.
“Maybe she could change her name and start over to get rid of the Idol thing?”
Maybe a band would be really helpful. She would hopefully still have a following and for those that don’t like AI they might be more willing to accept her. Also, she seems to really feed well off of other peoples energy. A permanent band would help her develop and keep the chemistry.
“it bothered me that I could hear her voice on the backup vocals and not just on the lead. With her talent, Allison Iraheta doesn’t need to resort to such tricks, which only further lessen her credibility in the rock world”
I don’t know enough about rock cred, but I am glad she is doing this. Of course I would love to hear nothing but Allison, but she has a lot of dates to make it through and if this helps please do it. I say it could be worse and they could use backing tracks. Shudder at the thought!
“I can see her potential to develop a similar cult following”
Cult following? Who us? With our video watching/ outfit obsessing/ general chatter. No, not us! In all seriousness I could see her getting a good following. Maybe she is meant to be more of an artist with a small following than a big commercial success. I will take anything as long as we get more music!
Ok that is all for now. I am really bored today so I may be back for more. Haha!
I like her current band. They seem to have a good time together. Its hard to say how committed any of them would be to being part of a permanent band. I don’t think Liz would be happy doing back up vocals forever. She’s always advertising her own band – not much loyalty there, imo. But, who can blame her? I wonder if they all write songs? Definitely need some of that!
I agree that Allison seems to really like being part of a group. You could definitely see that on Idol. I’m sure she’ll get really sad again when this tour is over. A permanent band would be nice.
ETA: So I guess the difference between fronting a band and what she’s doing now is that this band is just contracted for this tour?
LMAO!! So funny!!
I would be happy if her career was something like Janet Napolitano’s in Concrete Blonde. It would be great if she had at least one really big song (CB had “Joey”) and some decent selling albums. My husband is a big fan of theirs and absolutely goes to see them whenever they’re around (I’m a big fan now, too.) I will definitely see Allison whenever she’s around (and maybe travel some, too!)
Interesting comment about “Joey”… Johnette thought it was “too personal” of a song to become a huge hit. I wonder if Allison feels that way about YDKM?
ETA: The Hobby Theatre looks very nice… much better than last night’s slaughterhouse!
Dear Allison,
Please don’t ever do this.
Love,
Your Cult Fans
That is what I was thinking. She needs to have permanent band members (in the sense that they will be together more than a few months). She has already had 2 changes and I am sure, like you said alli lurker, at least Liz will be looking elsewhere once the tour is over. I don’t blame her a bit. It would be great to find people who are comfortable not taking the lead. What you said regarding fronting a band/what she is doing now are in as you stated. Even though I think of them as “the band” when referring to any of the people playing with Allison, I wouldn’t really consider it a permanent band. I was thinking more in terms of a Daughtry type situation for Allison. I bet he wouldn’t have had the same success if he wouldn’t have started the band (or maybe he would have. Seems easier for the guys off the show).
Maybe. I just find it weird that she has performed all but 3 of the songs off the album at least once.
That sounds good to me! I almost feel like it would be better this way. Some of the people that really hit big have all of the paparazzi and media in their face all the time. I wouldn’t want Allison to have to deal with this. Of course there is always going to be this element when you are in the entertainment field, but certain people get harassed way more than others. Am I showing my age by saying I haven’t heard the CB song “Joey?” Lol.
Weird venue for sure. This one looks so nice and new. I would love to go, but plane tickets are way too expensive.
Haha! The only upside to this would be if I was going on the cruise and could hear Allison. Though it would be a little embarrassing for her.
ETA: you know what bugs me (this actually relates to this thread. lol)? That with the DWTP video someone was recording all of these moments and they haven’t put the actual videos out. If they put the video out for each of these events/moments there could be a lot of behind the scenes action to check out. They should create an official youtube page and put them up. Certainly couldn’t hurt.
You showed your age when you said you just had your wisdom teeth removed. Lol. Lucky you!
I looked it up and Joey is from 1989, ugh! I still hear it sometimes on my radio station though. Here’s the vid… she looks awful. The song’s about her alcoholic boyfriend.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap5vXJi-cgc&feature=av2e
She looks much better in this vid, and I like this song – Heal It Up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEvm4yp2vkY
ETA: New page!
I would love to see more unscripted stuff from her – and always good quality performance vids. The videos that they’ve been putting up on her site are a good start, but I’d prefer to see her out doing stuff. She said they had a vid of her piercings, too. Not sure I want to see that, though!
Is it just my three favorites that she hasn’t performed? I’m totally insulted. WTF?
Oh yeah! Forgot about that. Lol. I will say thought that I was born before this song came out. Haha!
Agreed that it’s not the best look. Lol.
Yes!!
That is right! DIFD, Pieces and YDKM. I think those are the only ones. Goodness Allison really needs to do one of these.
Yeah and have videos that are not all from the same day. Lol. I would love behind the scenes stuff of just about anything. Nothing too weird though. You never know with Allison.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bleedingxsoul/4865132870/in/set-72157624663359664/
Looks like Allison made it through the scary venue last night! At least it looks like they had some fans on her. I was worried for her when I saw the no a/c tweets.
ETA: You know what I thought would have been a good single when I first heard the album was Just Like You . I have seen complaints about the keyboard in the beginning and that it sounds too much like Kelly Clarkson, but to me it sounded exactly like something that would be played on the radio. Just randomly popped into my head :)
Me, too! Hahaha.
You mean they didn’t fool you? Smart girl!
Yeah, I’m waiting for a video of her signing someone’s ass. Lol.
I LOVE acoustic JLY. Album version… not so much. I don’t like the synthesizer in the middle. Hmm… never thought about Kelly Clarkson when I heard it. My radio station wouldn’t play it, but I think I could hear my top 3 there. I hope someday she’ll be the first Idol they’ve ever played. It might take awhile.
Haha! Everytime a new video comes up I get annoyed that it is from the SAME place. Did they just ask her a million questions during this one day?
Oh god that sounds exactly like something she would do. Lol
Oooh I love the acoustic version too! I don’t hear Kelly Clarkson, but I could see people who don’t know her making the comparison. When I hear this song I can imagine it being played here. It is the right tempo for a slower song (unlike Scars) and seems catchy enough. I have little hope for her being played here though because my radio stations are, I think, some of the biggest ones in the country (KIIS FM w/ Ryan Seacrest (who now drives me nuts!) and a pretty big HAC station). I actually entered a request at the HAC station. You pick your top 3 @ noon and if you win they play all of your songs. I got a call one day saying I had won for the day. I was so excited! Then I found out the 3 songs that were going to be played. They completely ignored DWTP and picked a few songs I didn’t even mention. @ssholes!
alli lurker someone tweeted asking for questions for an Allison interview they were doing. I tweeted to ask her about performing DIFD and YDKM live. Hopefully she will ask her! We have to get to the bottom of this! Lol.
ETA: jordison if you are lurking: hope you are feeling better :)
Lauren – Sorry to be MIA. Its a busy weekend here. If you want to keep posting, I’ll catch up later.
No problem alli lurker. We can resume next week. Lol. Unless something unbelievable happens and I just have to talk about it. Haha! Have a great weekend!
Did read the concert thread from last night (by reading I mean scanning for Allison’s name. So easy to spot by the way. I think it is the 2 l’s) One review was talking about the drunk’s at the show and shouting at Allison: to get off the stage/you suck/when is Adam coming on. How rude! I hope she didn’t hear this.
Ok I thought I would post a few random things since it’s Monday (east coast time anyway ;) )
#1
Saw this video of No One Else.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4O3mn6c9vc
LOVE the acoustic version (only complaint is that it may be a tiny bit too long and redundant). alli lurker that was not you @ .46 seconds was it? Haha! (heard a few you’re awesome/wohoo comments. I love when that happens!) People love to see this side of her and I think it was a smart choice to make this song acoustic during the long set. Between the piano with Scars and this I am in heaven.
#2
Saw this video of Orianthi (like her hair straight.) Man what a great gig. Look at how big the crowd is and how they are pretty into the performance (at least more love than on the GN Tour)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OClUV846Fxs
Oh and lookie Taylor Swift was there. Her new song shot to #1 on itunes in 6 hours. Must be nice. I think part of Allison’s problem is that she isn’t the cookie cutter blonde (brunette) girl next door.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3X2bdZOFR8&feature=channel
#3
You know all those complaints about Allison’s interview skills and personality? Well at least she doesn’t say stuff like this:
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b194268_taylor_momsen_kids_around_about_having.html
This girl is a mess! She is actually younger than Allison. Scary!
#4
I just love how much Kris (and Adam) love Allison. I know there were comments about how Allison should have waited to go on idol (sidebar: I never understand the “you should wait” comments. I get it from the experience standpoint, but if you wait until you are older you further limit your chances of getting on the show. I bet most young people who try out don’t truly expect to get through. They just want to start early. Anyways…), but I am really happy for her that she seems to have made 2 great friendships/gained 2 older brothers. I also think that they really did help her throughout the experience (not in the sense that she couldn’t have done it without them, just that they were a good support system for her.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5PoYjDoQA0#t=3m34s @3:36
#5
Just in case I haven’t posted enough videos/links this evening ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9TWvPNgQKE&feature=channel
Classic! I still remember casually watching the show and thinking “oh god not this song again!”
Happy Monday Lauren (and all you lurkers out there!). Thanks for all the videos – wow! – I wasn’t feeling very inspired this morning until I saw all of that…
I’m so glad PRM did this. I just wish she would have brought the second video in right when it starts (or close to it). The quality of the second video is so much better than the first. I think the Denver performance of this song is still the best one I’ve seen. Love the part where she sings “a thousand times”. I’m so happy I was there for it. Wish I was that lady that was standing right in front of her!
I love that she has an acoustic song in her set, too. She seemed hesitant to ‘slow it down’, but yeah, everybody loved it – definitely still a highlight for me. When I read the twitter lists from the concerts I have the feeling that people are looking forward to hearing it, too.
This is a great video – I watched it a couple of times. Love the song. (Damn, Allison REALLY needs a song like that.) That crowd was definitely into it. And look how huge that stage is! I thought everything in Japan was small!
I think Allison just needs the right song.
I can’t stand to see Taylor Swift live. She’s so gangly and geeky. And now it looks like she’s getting an attitude. Blech…
Yes, there’s a difference between someone who throws out a few curse words and someone who’s just plain trashy. Gross. I can’t believe that girl is younger than Allison. She looks like she’s at least 21.
Its so cute how everybody said “Aw…” when Kris said he sees Allison the most. People love the love between them and I think a lot of people really love Allison (again, I think she just needs the right song).
I think they really helped her, too. Its not that she’s not talented, but I think they probably made suggestions that helped her get farther on the show than she might have on her own. All in all, its probably a good thing she was on that season. Adam’s helping her now and I hope Kris helps her in the future. I bet he could find or write the right song for her. He seems like such a sweet guy and very talented musically.
Oh good, the Holy Grail is back! That’s funny that you thought that… I didn’t remember hearing anybody else sing it. Everybody makes a big deal about Carrie singing it, but I didn’t remember it (never thought Carrie was that great on Idol.) I mostly remember when Allison sang “telephone” (jordison and I bonded over this, I think) and how she grabbed the mic off the stand and went for it. I was like ‘Wow!”, nobody does that.
ETA: As good as she was then, she’s so much better now. I think her voice sounds better.
You’re welcome! I am glad it wasn’t too much. I will post links more often if I see something we can discuss.
Agreed. She worries too much about slowing it down. I think it is even more important to do so with the longer set. I want more videos of this! I am bummed she has done the longer set for the last week and not ONE person recorded this one.
100 no wait 1000% YES!!! I think (like you mentioned in your post later) that is truly one of her biggest hurdles. If I am being really honest about it I don’t think she has a song on her album that is catchy like this one. Now it may just be that I have listened to everything too much and nothing sounds catchy anymore. Even though I love the album and think what they came up with in 3 months is quite impressive, I don’t think there is a song on it that is just a massive earworm. After thinking about it the thing I like most about Allison’s album is her voice (still prefer less production, but overall not too bad) and not the songs. Now contrasting that with Adam’s album (which I admit I have been listening to a few of the songs. lol) there are a couple of really good songs and I like the songs simply for the beat/lyrics and not for Adam’s voice.
Bottom line: If we could just find her the right song and it is one that is so catchy good* that radio can’t resist playing it then she would be on her way! (*the song must highlight Allison’s voice no autotune/overproduction please)
Ok even I will admit her last album had a lot of catchy/fun songs on it. I bought it when it came out, but this new song is not that good. LOL about your description of her. I agree about her performances. It was awkward and not engaging to me at all.
Oh they definitely helped her. I just read comments sometimes making it seem as if Allison couldn’t do anything on her own or was riding coattails in some way. I remember her idolatry interview and how she said Adam and Kris helped her with Give in to Me and Papa was a Rolling Stone. I would love for Kris and Allison to work together. He has such great musical instincts. Have you listened to his album? I really like it. A lot of solid songs on it and it “feels” like Kris. I LOVED their duet on The Scientist. I almost wish they would have worked together top 4. Maybe some people wouldn’t have assumed she was safe because she performed with Adam.
Since links are well liked how about one here!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsDdz5mQS7Y love it @ 3:13 – 3:23
Besides Carrie I think Ramiele and Carly had done it in season 7. Some other people in earlier years may have done it too. As for Carrie I like her but her voice becomes grating to me if I listen to her too much. Lol.
Definitely! I can see changes just from the start of the tour. I shudder at the thought of what would have happened had Allison not done this song and made it through. I don’t think she would have been brought back to the wildcard and clearly they were surprised she made the top 13 because she had zippo screen time beforehand.
Another one of my faves:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBw6LYLV6D8&feature=channel
What was your favorite idol performance?
Lastly: what does Allison have on her mic? Looks interesting. (Can I say that I want to burn this dress. She has worn it too much. Lol)
http://twitpic.com/2d1rv0
ETA: They added a new shirt! (of course after i go to the show) Looks like this is a shirt made for women. Are those rhinestones/metalics on the sleeves?
http://twitpic.com/2d4vd2
I love how the comment count keeps going up. At this rate we may have one of those “over a thousand posts” threads. haha!
I want more videos period. These last few concerts have been seriously lacking.
I think the fact that most of her fans disagree about what songs should be singles is not a good sign. Like you said, maybe there are no clear-cut winners. Its hard for me to be objective, but when my husband first heard the album, he said he didn’t think anything stood out. I respect his opinion because he listens to music all the time and has thousands of CD’s.
I have always felt strongly that You Don’t Know Me would be a hit – it just sounds like something I’d hear on the radio, but let me tell you a story…. Yesterday my husband started talking (yes, HE brought it up!) about Allison’s concert and how weird the crowd was (I’m telling you, he was traumatized! LOL!) Then I said I didn’t think the crowd was her demographic, and that she should be singing to younger straight guys. Then he said, “Well then maybe she shouldn’t be singing the girl anthems”, and I was like “Hmm…” and then he said, “She needs to get over her bitterness about not winning Idol.” And I was like “What?! She’s not bitter about not winning Idol.” Then he said, “Oh, come on – You Don’t Know Me?” (Okay, now I’m the one who’s traumatized!)
So now I don’t know what to think…. would people just interpret that to think that she’s bitter? I wonder if he thinks that, too, because of her Scars performance on Idol? I kind of got that impression from that performance – or maybe that she was just angry at Simon.
So anyway, maybe we should just look ahead to the next album. Or maybe they could give Pieces or D a try…
I agree that she’s a great songwriter. I really like that “You Belong to Me” song, but I hate to watch her sing.
I’m okay with the fact that she is still in these two’s shadow for the time being, but I hope that she eventually becomes more successful than both of them, and I hope that she knows that she can be.
Only a few tracks when it first came out. I could see Kris becoming a producer or something like that. Maybe he could produce an album for Allison.
I loved The Scientist, too. They harmonize really well. It would have been great to see them together on Top 4. But seriously, no one else could have sung with Adam.
I don’t think Allison’s problem that night was that people thought she was safe… I think it was song choice – yep, I don’t think Cry Baby was a good song choice. (Blaspheme! Jordison will hate me for that.) She needed a more rockin’ song choice. Even I wasn’t inspired to vote for her – not that I vote a zillion times, anyway. I think if she had sung Piece of My Heart she would have easily defeated Scream On. Oh well, its all water under the bridge at this point.
That’s a tough one… probably Poppa, but I also loved I Can’t Make You Love Me (she has a great voice for that kind of music), Don’t Speak (severely underrated!), Someone to Watch Over Me, Don’t Wanna Miss a Thing (most of it, lol.) I’m sure I’m forgetting something. Least favorite was probably Hot Stuff, mostly because of the song itself.
I don’t mind it. It fits her well. ETA: I wish she wouldn’t wear the tights with the holes in them.
No, I think those are thumbtacks, LOL!
If we limited ourselves to one post per quote, we would probably have 5,000 posts!
Re: Kris
I always wonder if he (I should say his fans) stole Allison’s spot in the top 3 by using that software/web site (?) that everybody was talking about. I think he should always be nice to her and help her because of that.
Oh man, I’m gonna be in trouble if there are Kris fans lurking here!
Any lurkers out there yes I am editing this post again! Lol.
2 comments from the mediabase thread. Thoughts?
From a commentor:
This makes absolutely NO sense to me! I almost have the same vibe from Adam. Everything is rehearsed to the tee. I have always thought that Allison was very spontaneous and just went on instinct. As for emulation.. WHAT? This is ridiculous to me. I have never gotten the sense that she is trying to copy ANYONE. Lastly, a big fat WOW at the notion that her career is over. Who knew at the old age of 18 your career could be over.
Then another:
Well I guess to the casual person Allison doesn’t give a damn. This makes me sad that she is working really hard and apparently because she is young it just looks like she is goofing off.
Good point. I see many fans disagree on their favorites. I think most would put FIBOU at the bottom, but the rest is very mixed. I can see why your husband would feel that way. I will say though that for me I need to listen to some songs more than once before I can really determine if I like it. Some albums on first listen I think everything sounded the same. After listening a bit I can see the differences.
Haha! No hope for another show for you then?
Yep. I have read this too! (lots of reading I have done in the last 8 months since the album has been out. Lol) DWTP certainly does her no favors. Songs like Holiday though are in the right direction, I think.
Wow I have never gotten this impression before. I can see maybe the idea could come up after hearing YDKM, but since she rarely even mentions that song (and lord know never sings it. lol) I don’t get that sense from her. I don’t think she was even that upset when she was eliminated (not to say that she didn’t want to win, but that she didn’t let herself get too bummed about it.)
Hmm… I always thought of the song as a general outlook to not judge someone because you really don’t know who they are (especially those you see on tv/hear on the radio.) As for idol (another bad tv performance.ugh) this seemed to be a case of something like PTSD. I have also read comments from others who have gone back to perform and having the same feeling. That same fear/nervousness comes over you and you remember being judged on the show
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Between the comments from your husband and those I posted in the previous post I am not feeling to good about the casual person’s perception of Allison (I am now traumatized. Lol)What is it that we see and others don’t seem to?
I say wait for a new album. I just don’t think radio is for her right now. Maybe a new kickass album with more rock and the right songs for singles and we would be in gear. Also, she has matured so much in the last year it may be time for a fresh start and to break away from the young/tween image they were trying to aim for. I love pieces, but have you ever thought that the intro sounds like Kings of Leon’s “Use Somebody?” I can just hear the complaints about that now.
I am ok with it too, its just that I would like some confirmation that she will get her time. LOL. If there was a way for this to happen then I would stop worrying and enjoy the ride more. I just want her to get some recognition at some point.
As you stated water under the bridge, but just quickly I don’t know if any song could have helped her. Adam fans were freaking over his “appearance” (I know he wasn’t really in the bottom 2 producers. Why wouldn’t you have just done a bottom 2 instead of having a bottom 3 if Adam was truly in the bottom 2) and Danny’s fans were going to vote until their fingers bleed because they knew that was a bad performance. Kris got the “you were thrown under the bus” sympathy votes from the casual viewer (in addition to his fan votes.) Ok enough on that. What’s next?
I think you listed almost all of her performances. Haha! Don’t Speak is definitely underrated. So much criticism for the outfit (which wasn’t that bad. Hair maybe. Outfit no. Siobhan was way crazier this year and hardly ever if even got a comment on her appearance)
Oh god. I feel like an idiot! Whoops! Lol
Holy smokes with the way I post and respond to quotes we would be there in no time! Lol
Yeah! I think us diehard Allison fans should make the executive decisions from now on. I feel like we know her better than some of the peeps at JIVE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIQzaMX4GWw
So Cute!
Okay, just a quickie here and then I have to leave for the day…
Respectfully disagree. People were expecting a lot from her that night. I don’t think she delivered. I think a kick-ass song would have put her through. I gotta say though, that her exit performance was one for the ages. Fantastic. It took me like a week to get over it.
Gotta run…
No problem! I like it when we don’t always agree. Lol. I can certainly see your point. I do think that we were expecting a much more “rock” style performance. We knew she could do it. I don’t think her other choice (Somebody to Love) would have been any better.
You want this alli lurker?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM3Xj2FweOw
(Have you seen this before?)
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsMVQtX0Mgo
(alli lurker I know you loved this one!)
Oh Yes! She nailed it. She poured a lot of emotion into this. The tears streaming down her face made it even more powerful (she wasn’t the only one with a few tears. haha!) I loved her look for Simon. Lol. I even liked Kara’s enthusiasm. For all her faults as a judge, I do feel that she was Alli’s biggest supporter and saw the most potential in her. Paula/Simon were too worried about Adam & Danny.
I have been meaning to ask you (and jordison if you are still here ;) ) Do you make mp3’s of Allison’s performances that you like and listen to them? Just curious…
Lol. Does this mean you no longer want to post or just want a new thread?
Aww I like this one. I never thought she sounded like a chipmunk, but I haven’t heard it in a while though.
Yes another one would be great! I think she messed up some lyrics in this one. Haha! As for the contract regarding songs I do wonder about this too. I thought the top of the concert thread said Adam did a new cover or something last night so who knows how this works. I think most of it might just be that she doesn’t feel comfortable without more practice. We see that she has some troubles remembering lyrics.
That would be good. I love to read the reactions people have to this. Lol
Yeah I will try. I just look at the username and then immediately skip over!
I was just coming here to tell you too! Haha! Did you see the one from St. Louis or last night? Will anything top Denver? (lucky you!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFXI1-BjaFM
(Last night! and they have her whole set)
Pigtails? Yay or Nay?
I was talking about the one from last night – I didn’t know about the St. Louis one. OMG, the STL one’s really good. Great, great, quality… love the emotion… but no extended “thousand times”, and the cut away to Dave was a big mistake. I don’t know… it might tie with Denver, which is okay, cuz St. Louie is my hometown, so I got a soft spot for the venue.
Neither. Just looking for a laugh.
I wasn’t trying to be mean… she just sounds so young there.
I could go either way. Its kind of fun, but doesn’t do much for the rocker image. I think she’s sick of being hot.
So I had another conversation with my husband about Allison last night, just to clarify the things he said the other day. Here are excerpts:
Note: He hates Idol mostly because of Simon and his criticisms. He never watches unless I show him something. During Season 8 I showed him Alone, I Can’t Get No Satisfaction, & Slow Ride. I didn’t show him anything last year, lol. Sometimes I show him the rejects, but he thinks that part of the show is mean, too.
More of the conversation:
Different topic…
Did you see that movie “The Runaways” about Joan Jett? Horrible movie, but it showed how their manager ‘sexed up’ that band. I think Allison is already halfway there with the see-through top and how she acts on stage. Better material will help, too.
As for No One Else I can’t believe how close this person got to her. They have really good seats!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9z_Ig-d_Rk&feature=player_embedded
(cuts off though)
I hated his comments to Allison last season. Even when she was Amazing he would be like that was good, but… I felt really bad at top 4 when he told her to beg for votes. Yes beg for votes, but Danny gets an A for effort. He seemed (well they all did) easier on the contestants this year. I think they knew they were not doing well and were trying to find anything positive to say. Lol.
Interesting! No one at my house really likes Allison. I tried getting my mom to listen (wouldn’t bother with my dad) and she was just not into anything. I said forget it. Haha! The one song she seemed to like, just a little, was DWTP (original.) Holiday may be the direction a lot of fans expected or want for Allison. I could see her liking this style too. Just make sure she has some good ballads in there. (speaking of which, can we please get another Trouble Is performance!)
“P is for Pretty” that’s hysterical! Hmm on the sexing it up. I don’t know much about rock or the image of being a rocker. Maybe there are varying degrees of this type of performer. What is considered rock? Also, is it harder for women to be considered a rocker? I like the image she has now. It appears sexy enough to me. Any more than what she is doing and it could get close to the trashy line.
I didn’t see the movie. I can see why the manager wanted to do this though. Plain and simple: sex sells. Allison is definitely halfway there. Her wardrobe choices on tour have been really good. She is clearly growing up. Also, her voice is starting to match her appearance/age. So many people couldn’t seem to get past the deep voice for such a young girl. Better material is definitely a must. I wonder if she and Dave have written anything together? I can see them sitting down with his guitar and coming up with something. I hope he sticks with her after the tour. I think they have developed a bond since he has been with her the longest and has done so many acoustic sets with her.
Just saw this from last nights review:
“Young opener Allison Iraheta, 18 — who finished fourth on “Idol” in 2009 — showcased her powerful pipes, especially on Pat Benatar’s “Heartbreaker” and her own “Friday, I’ll Be Over You.” When she gets material that matches her voice, she’ll be a force.”
Guess he agrees too alli lurker!
ETA: I almost miss those 25 comments per page that MJ had. Lol. With the long posts it takes a while to scroll to the bottom. Should we make up some random posts to get to a new page. Haha!
Maybe we should try doing multiple shorter posts instead of big ones. Like this one, lol.
I’ll be back later (because I’m a big slacker! LOL!)
Ok lets not get drastic now! I will try to split my posts up more, but one as short as yours sounds impossible.lol
I highly doubt that :)
Allison says she loves Philly. Maybe because its Pink’s home town. I suspect she’ll go all out tomorrow night. Keep your fingers crossed for vids.
I’m too tired… need to go to sleep now.
Ok aiming for short post!
jordison where are youuuuuu? Went and looked and the last post was on 8/4.
Fingers crossed! Were you looking at her Philly tweet? Lol. http://tweetphoto.com/38341630
Discussions for tomorrow:
#1 What are your thoughts on this song?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFdcquqkL9g
#2
I have noticed on itunes that collaborations are really popular right now ie. Eminem/Rhianna,B.o.B/Hayley Williams/earlier Alicia Keys/Jay-Z. Any good collaborators for Allison? Maybe where it is the other person’s single and she is a feature. This would get new people to check her out for sure.
Short enough?
I think he’ll be back after his son leaves – tomorrow, I think.
Do not like. Wish it would go away. Upset that it has 170,000 hits.
Yes – Orianthi!
I don’t know…. it would have to be someone I respect, and I don’t respect most people in popular music right now. I’m probably the wrong person to ask.
I’ll be away from the computer most of the day today.
In a lousy mood, so its probably a good thing.
Have you seen the Springfield videos? I only looked at the first two so far… tons of energy. Check out the move at about 1:53 during Beat Me Up. Whoa!
Boy, she could have really used Orianthi on DWTP in Springfield. It looks like she can barely contain herself and the band just isn’t keeping up. Orianthi with that energy would have been killer.
I think this is the most energetic show I’ve seen – crazy stuff.
Okay, I really do have to go. Thanks for cheering me up Allison!
I had an appointment cancel.
Feel like dancing?
I do!
Chaka Khan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6IxIjUrj18&feature=related
I see your short posts there alli lurker!
Oh ok. Thanks!
Lol. I guess we will just ignore it then. (I like it, minus the annoying girls in it, for the record!)
I am the wrong person too! I can’t think of someone. It just seems that there are so many songs out there now especially ones with the male being the lead and the female coming in during the chorus. If she were in a song like this with a big name artist it could attract new fans. I don’t know if you heard Carrie Underwood’s new album, but she has a song with Sons of Sylvia on it. They weren’t well known, but she did a song with them and then they opened on her tour (I think.)
Haha! Yeah I watched that one, but wasn’t sure if I should point that move out. Lol. Hmm was that intentional? Lol.
I have to admit to not watching many DWTP’s lately. It is just not the same without Orianthi there. Allison really needs someone to interact with and feed off of their energy. I guess one of the few downsides of the longer set.
Isn’t she a great remedy for a bad day! Hope you are feeling better :)
Why not?! *dances in chair* lol
Hey alli lurker did you ever watch videos from San Francisco? Those pants man make her extra energetic!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-cgqcXwb4c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pyz8Vc-Hr_I&feature=channel
Aww.Despite some of his crazy fans, Adam makes it impossible not to like him! I am very grateful that he advocated for Allison. I have a feeling she wouldn’t have been touring this summer if it wasn’t for him (and we wouldn’t have all of these awesome videos to obsess over. lol)
I thought of a collaborator – Daughtry. Makes perfect sense, doesn’t it? He’d probably be willing to do it, too.
I’d love to hear her do something else with Kris, too – something original.
Those are great, too!
I think it was intentional, lol. But don’t worry, it was her alter-ego. (We still have to think of a name for her.)
She can be so literal with her stage movements… during that STL No One Else she makes two little circles by her eyes when she sings “I’m more perfect in your eyes”. Its kind of cute and funny.
I like both of these guys! (thoughts on Don’t Wanna Be Wrong? written by Chris) My only concern with either one of these would be the fact that they were both connected to idol. I guess more concern with Kris then Daughtry just from the standpoint that Kris hasn’t branched out of the idol bubble as much. Now just from a pure enjoyment place I would LOVE one with Kris.
Haha! Man we need a thread dedicated to creating a name so we can get some input. I am useless. I can’t even pick out names for my dogs. Lol. I always see people using the HETA part of her last name like “The Heta,” but that’s it.
New page! *does happy dance*
I have noticed this during No One Else a few times. Have you noticed her Robot Dancing during Robot Love? She did that at my shows and I was laughing. I love that she is not afraid to be so emotive and really work the stage during her performances.
I love watching her face during Scars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grS3tsNiHh0
alli lurker there is a poster name AL Lurker in the concert threads and it confuses me every time I see it. lol.
Found this in the concert thread
http://tweetphoto.com/38539350
Can you imagine wearing these? Wow that is dedication to filming Adam’s set.
Where’s our Philly vids? I hope they show up…
I happened upon this by accident – Season 2 contestant Carmen Rasmusen’s Nothin’ Like the Summer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GND0XwCSjUo
309,000 hits, unbelievable! Such hokey crap. Country music fans are so gullible.
Yeah, I’ve seen her (?) She’s posted in Allison threads, too.
Oooh can we talk about this here? I wouldn’t want to mention it in other threads and offend some people. Lol. I actually grew up listening to a lot of country music (my mom liked it) so I like some songs that are out there, but some are just awful. Do you get the impression that it is easier to break into country music (or at least coming off of a show like American Idol)? It looks to me like there is less competition than the other genres.
Allison’s most listed to song (not including FIBOU)…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-balTFp7kv4
Interesting…
I know! I just went to check the account for the lady who gave us the Scars/DWTP I posted above and she has been to 14 shows! I can’t even imagine how much that cost. Wow!
nvm
Bored here waiting for an important e-mail so…
Let’s compare:
DWTP Acoustic
Then:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgECp6bOpgE
Now:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hvc5h_7iJc
DWTP Full Band
Then: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ0GR0Nryrc
Now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8fCqsbcxy0
Looking at the acoustic versions she seems to get into those even more now. Watching the full band shows me how much she really needs someone to interact with when she performs. Dave needs to get his butt out there more. Lol. I can’t get over how different she looks too. We are getting to watch her grow up. *slight tear in my eye*
Here I am! You guys are incredible. I thought it would be impossible to catch up with all the tour threads, but it’s taken me about 45 minutes just to catch up with the two of you. Impossible!
Anyway, our son just hit the highway this morning, heading back up north, so I have more access to the computer. We’ve been insanely busy the last couple weeks, and my projects aren’t over yet. Still, I’ll try to post a little bit. But, there’s no way I can keep up with the two of you!
Later.
Yay! Welcome back.
We were chatty!
Cool. That would be great!
ETA: OMG Allison way TMI!
Hope no non-fans see this. Lol. This girl is just too real!
Well just checking in briefly before going to bed. Hope you guys had a good weekend. (Had a little bit of a cold, but did watch some pre-season football! 4 weeks and I can’t wait!) Anyways, there were some videos from the Balloon Festival on Saturday. I don’t know if it was being outdoors, the pants or what, but she was rocking out for sure! Lots of head banging and mic stand riding. Hehe.
Think she has a slight headache after the @ 2:00 min mark? Lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08jOTBMzhIM
Hmm… @ 3:42
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd-WdhRWdqs
I still feel like, after watching these videos, that I like the indoor venues better. I think it is harder to hear her when outdoors (I know these are youtube videos, but these people are even in the front) and her voice sounds richer when she is indoors.
Also, still can’t get over Allison’s poop tweets. Haha! Does anyone tweet about poop as much as she does? It feels like she is always talking about it. lol.
Hey Lauren, I was just going to post about the Balloon Festival videos when I see you beat me to it. If the sound was better they’d be fantastic. I don’t think it’s possible to get any closer shots.
Is it my imagination, or is she wearing the pants more and more these days?
I must admit I’m not too crazy about the obsessive poop tweeting. I’d be surprised if it’s winning her any new fans. If you’re lurking Allison (and why wouldn’t you be checking a hundred year old thread?) cut the allipoop.
Lauren, did you ever get your classes? Our son just went through 4 years of registration headaches, so I know what you’re going through. Be persistent.
I think that when she tweets about sh*t, she’s either drunk or stupid. Since this was around 1 p.m. on a show day, she probably wasn’t drunk (hungover maybe), so that leaves….
But seriously, this is what happens when you watch too much South Park and Jim Carrey movies. You start to think that talking about sh*t all the time is normal. Let this be a cautionary tale for parents and children everywhere.
I’d say its time for Mama Iraheta to pay her daughter a visit and smack her upside her head.
I don’t think it is your imagination! I tell you she rotates like 3 outfits these days. I think a lot of it does depend on the venue though. Some places are really hot so she likes the black & white dress. When she is outdoors, like the last 2 shows, she wears the pants. No complaints from me about wearing the pants a lot!
I would agree that it is not really going to gain her any new fans. I actually saw the tweet photo before I read all of her tweets. I was confused as to why she took a picture of her shoes. Then I went back and saw all of the other tweets and thought “oh it all makes sense now!” Sometimes she is immature and does stuff like this, but hopefully as she gets older maybe she will get a filter. Lol.
She needs someone to educate her on how to use twitter. I wish she would respond to (reasonable) fan tweets/questions once in a while. If she would interact more she would probably gain more followers and increase loyalty from the ones she already has. Liz tweets like crazy and I think she has gained a pretty good following over the tour.
Thanks for asking jordison :) Yes it can be quite the headache. Although not the most ideal schedule, I did get classes. I think next semester will be much better. I won’t have orientation to do beforehand so I will be ready extra early.
alli lurker what are you talking about? Our sweet, innocent Alli drunk? Come on ;) She is quite random with these tweets. I guess she is trying to be funny, but these type of tweets are not going to be for most people.
Haha! I guess that explains why I never think about it. I haven’t watched many Jim Carey movies (I like those girly ones or action) and have never watched South Park.
I don’t think this is going to help. Lol. She was doing this kind of stuff even when she was living at home. I do think she needs a visit from her hair stylist though. Did you notice her hair in the videos I just posted? Maybe it is time to try that darker color. I am curious to see what that would look like.
You’re probably right, maybe she was trying to be funny, but that’s the kind of funny that you share with a small group of people – not 68,000 people. Regardless, I was wrong to say that she was stupid. I should have said what she did was stupid (imo). There’s a difference.
I don’t think she should respond to individuals. People on twitter seem to be too needy and demanding. It would only get worse if she starts responding. I think she does well when she shares pictures or talks a little bit about what she’s doing on tour. Its such an adventure, you would think there would be lots to talk about. I definitely think she should tweet more often, just not about bodily functions.
Yes, she could definitely use some fresh color. I don’t know about switching colors on tour though. She might want to wait until she gets home for that kind of change. I’d like to see it, too!
What? You can’t hold her responsible for anything she does while ‘blanked out’ on stage, lol. Besides, this is a good time to try different things before she (hopefully) has her own tour someday.
BTW – I skimmed Pat Benatar’s new memoir “Between a Heart and a Rock Place” in a bookstore over the weekend. She’s got some stuff in there about getting sexed up by her record label. It looked like a good read.
Yeah you are probably right. I can just see people start saying “why doesn’t she talk/respond to me?” I guess I just want her to tweet more in general. I am not expecting her to tweet all day every day, just a little more often. I was thinking the same thing in regards to her having a lot to talk about. One would think she would especially with all of the driving time. I just think this is part of the laziness she always refers to. Lol.
Haha! She sure does say this every time someone asks about how she feels when performing. I am certainly not making any complaints ;) She really does transform onstage. This is the same person giving us the details on her bathroom emergencies? Lol.
I would love for her to tour on her own someday. I am there! Wouldn’t it be fun if we could get a good number of the “cult following” and go to the same show? I would like to do this on this tour if it were possible. I feel bad when the crowds are so unenthusiastic. We could give her a really good reception!
I am sensing a common theme here. You mentioned this with Joan Jett too. I guess it was the same then as it is now. I wonder if the label ever pressured Allison to lose weight. I hope she never feels like she has to take it any further than what she is doing now. I will die if I ever see her do anything like what Miley Cyrus, Katy Perry, etc. do. I always want the focus to be on her voice.
Have you seen this Still Breathing from OKC? The person taping it is singing along with the chorus and its SO FUNNY, especially at 2:15. I’m crying from laughing so hard…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOF1kCGKGYU&feature=related
Haha! I was really laughing at 2:38. My video commentary doesn’t seem so bad now. Lol.
In her other video she starts screaming the second it begins. Also screaming and “singing” beat me up at: 51. At least she is enthusiastic!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7noySkrttqI&feature=channel
Someone left a comment on one of my videos saying that they didn’t know who Allison was before going to the San Diego show and they really enjoyed her set. I replied back mentioning it was great to hear that she was reaching new people. I then got a private message (smart move!) sent back saying:
That warms my heart to no end! I love it when new people get to see Alli and realize how talented she is. One at a time, one at a time!
Yay! Allison tweeted a picture and it wasn’t from a bathroom! Nice!! Let’s see if she can keep it up….
How can someone know Adam and not Allison?
Wow, that’s exactly how I felt! Hahaha.
What a great message!
Lauren and jordison – what are your birth dates? (not year!) I want to know what I’m dealing with here… lol.
December 13 – Sag.
Lauren, you had some links a few pages ago relating to Orianthi, but when I went there the material had been removed. Just wondering, what was it?
Can either of you (or any of the other hundreds of lurkers :) ) figure out why Allison has dropped “born to please” in Heartbreaker?
I think it’s really strange when she doesn’t finish a line of lyrics, and nobody else, including the audience, fills it in.
December 13
Dramatic
Precise
Emotional
You tend to work very hard at what you believe. Although you have a great sense of humor, you have a serious and emotional streak that lies just below the surface. Part of this complexity is what makes you so attractive to others, but can also be difficult for you to handle. The integration of your inner longings into your daily life holds the key to your well-being and happiness.
What do you think jordison, does this sound like you? I’d say the first two sentences sound like you, for sure.
She put up a great video of Orianthi singing “According to You” at that Summer Sonic (?) concert in Japan. It was very high quality. I tried to show it to my husband but it was gone.
Hmm… Allison might be the only one who could answer this. I’d say that in general, she’s pretty casual with lyrics. I don’t think there’s much intention behind it, imo. Sounds like it bothers you?
alli lurker you still here? We are almost on at the same time! Just to say quickly if you are I was born April 8th (aries)
Well I feel dumb because I don’t ever remember this line in the first place. I always thought it was “born to be.” Guess I better not mention this when the diction police come around ;)
ETA: ok went and looked up the lyrics so I could find the spot I think you are talking about jordison.
http://www.lyrics007.com/Pat%20Benatar%20Lyrics/Heartbreaker%20Lyrics.html
I then went back to one of my faves from the tour
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLL11WJF3i0
From July 6 and I believe she dropped it here too. I then checked out another one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8fCqsbcxy0
Think I may have somewhat of a reason! She seems to drop the last line in order to get the crowd prepped to sing along.
It is supposed to be: The invincible winner, and you know that you were born to be
She drops the that you were born to be part in order to sing “you know that what?” and get the crowd to go along. This is all I could come up with from my very scientific research ;)
Better! I definitely think she aims for the funny with her tweets/pics.
Probably because he gets radio play and if you didn’t watch idol you might have no clue who Allison is.
Aries, huh? I had you pegged as a Virgo or Capricorn. Its interesting that both you and jordison both have birthdays that are one day later than friends of mine. 12/12 and 4/7.
April 8
Deep
Stimulating
Powerful
There is more to you than meets the eye. The casual and superficial are not for you. You want to connect on a deep level and get to the heart of the matter. You are magnetic and attractive to others and you may be known for your sex appeal. Powerful and passionate, you have the ability to transform yourself and others.
Holy smokes, that’s a hot one! I’d say the ‘get to the heart of the matter’ is definitely true for you, lol! I gotta ask… are you known for your sex appeal?
Hey jordison found another one! Great peformance! I didn’t like this song much at first, but it grew on me and is very catchy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLt5z93kXkQ
Would love to see her and Alli together on a big stage like this!
Sweet Jesus! I think I may have just woken the whole house with laughter. Maybe the first part could apply to me a little, but once we start getting to the magnetic and attractive to others LOL!
Hmmm… now I am curious. What would make you say this? I know nothing about astrological signs.
Now I am definitely wondering what kind of impression I give off on this blog. Haha! I would say the answer to your question is a big no! If anyone who knew me read this they would bust a gut laughing. I am very shy and quiet so being magnetic as the description above states wouldn’t apply to me.
Here’s mine:
March 5
Smart
Charismatic
Unusual
You have a deep and profound understanding of life. Few people know the real you as you keep a lot to yourself. Although you are a great communicator, you still have many thoughts and ideas that you cannot really explain to others. You have a talent for understanding and appreciating art and beauty. Your creative abilities are numerous and can be quite exceptional.
alli lurker this is fun! I was thinking tell me more, tell me more (in regards to the astrological signs) and the line made this pop into my head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpJUrt0O7uY
Well I like the sounds of yours better. Lol.
You are an Allison fan so of course you have this talent :)
This would be close to me, but still not very accurate. The part about creative abilities. Me and creative not so much. This would explain why I am a math girl. I love numbers because they are precise and not meant to have infinite answers. I always hated school stuff that “had no right or wrong answer.” I want there to be only answer dang it!
Man I take back what I said about Philly and now say that NH is the worst! Not one video! Adam arleady has a bunch from tonight. We NEED video from tongiht!
and apparently
Forgot this one:
and
I read yesterday in the headlines thread that Adam is supposedly getting an EP that is acoustic. I would love one of these from Allison (done better than the DWTP one on itunes. Did she have a cold during this?) I need a Still Breathing acoustic! (Wonder what Trouble Is or DIFD would sound like?)
Need to go to bed because I can tell I am about to get the munchies! I hate when this happens. We’re not supposed to eat after 7 blah, blah,blah!
Allison…
April 27
Verbally Strong
Striking
Motivated
Action is required to achieve the ambitions that you want. Excitement and stability need to be blended together in order for you to make the most of your talents and desires. The urge to do something great is hidden in your birthday. Connecting with a universal cause helps you move through any inhibitions that you may have.
Well I guess LDR was right (again!), she does need a cause. Hmm… what would be a universal cause?
F*ck me, I just lost a post… better drag out Word, I guess.
Just finished watching last night’s videos. FIBOU is fantastic! She seems way more connected to that song than she did when she first started singing it. I love when she bangs on the cymbals, too.
I also really, really loved Scars/DWTP. But I have to say I felt extremely guilty when she started singing Scars and sang, “Did I say something stupid?”, because that’s pretty much exactly what I said the other day about her sh*t tweets. Now I feel really bad. I hope that if she’s reading this, that I haven’t ‘scarred’ her too bad.
DWTP was another song where I thought she felt very connected to the lyrics – probably more than any other time I’ve seen her sing it (other than when she sings it acoustic). I loved when she sang “you’re beautiful, beautiful, beautiful” directly to that audience member. After I watched this video I was thinking about the line ‘connecting to a universal cause’ from her horoscope (a couple of posts back) and I think for her that means just connecting deeply with a song and relating it to the audience. And singing about those emotions that everyone feels… like she always talks about.
Hey Lauren – If you watch Adam’s vids, can you tell me where all the crazy stuff is? I don’t feel like going through the thread or the vids. Thanks…
alli lurker I was just coming to ask if either you or jordison watched the videos from last night. I saw the full set posted by the alliholics, but haven’t had a chance to watch them yet. Were FIBOU and Scars/DWTP the best? Wasn’t really feeling the hair last night. I like it curled, but this looks like hair that she got out of the shower with and didn’t do anything. LOl. I also think she should have a towel up on stage. She was sweating like crazy! Haha.
Ugh just had the same thing happen to me!
I don’t think your comment was that bad. I have read much worse on this board. Besides if she ever did read here it is obvious that we all care about her.
This is my favorite part of the song. She always gets into it. You believe what she is singing.
Beautifully stated! I am always amazed at how well she connects to a song. I believe this is what attracts a lot of Allison’s fans to her. It is also the reason I was completely bored with this season of idol and have never been invested in a previous idol as much. This “universal cause” would certainly be one that could continue to gain her new fans. It might not happen overnight, but she will gain new ones.
Haha! I haven’t watched them (usually never watch his videos), but if I do I will let you know.
This sounds pretty fitting for Allison. She definitely doesn’t lack in the excitement part, but may need to work on the stability (or becoming more calm/focused.) She has a lot of energy, but needs to learn to reign that in at times. I don’t really know what I am trying to say. Haha! (I hate that when you can’t quite put something into words.)
Ok alli lurker I took one for the team and did some minor investigating. I went to Suz526 youtube page and looked at the 1st video she posted from last night because I figured she would upload the craziest thing first.
@5:20 is when he leans over to the audience in front and makes out with some guy. I guess this is the big deal from last night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdOQV4pdX5I
OK, I’m going to do some short posts because I’m paranoid now of losing a long one, and I’m too lazy to open a Word document.
I was blown away today to see a full, high quality long set. I watched the whole thing and really got a feel of Allison’s emotion and intensity. The voice is understandably worn down because of the long tour, but her energy and passion is unreal. The video is topnotch.
I went to the tour thread, expecting to read some comments, and what do I find is all the crap about the kissing. Totally brought me down. I never did go all the way backwards in the thread to see if there were any Alli comments, but the only one I saw was that the person was amazed she had lost so much weight. PRMari of course jumped in about the kiss – and people no doubt will attribute her comment to pro-Alli anti-Adam (not to be confused with Atom Ant) feelings. Sometimes I think PRMari sets herself up for a verbal beating. Still, I admire her courage and fortitude. Still, I’m not sure if it accomplishes much for the pro-Alli cause.
Regarding my horoscope, it’s pretty close.
BTW, my wife just had a birthday – August 16 – a Leo.
Thanks Lauren for the Ori link. I have to admit I don’t care too much for According to You – too poppy for me, except for the guitar run.
But, the link led me to an utterly fantastic Voodoo Child.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2rBfnEULeQ&feature=related
I’m sure Rub would love this one, and perhaps also Mr. allilurker.
I don’t even bother anymore. I have tried to make comments several times and they go completely ignored. I noticed there are like 5-10 comments when the thread opens and more don’t start showing up until about 2 hours later when Adam is closer to coming on.
Definitely! I would consider her one of the biggest Alli fans, if not the biggest. Sometimes though it is best to not comment at all. I notice how you say one bad thing about Adam and they know the only way they can get to you (since we are not supposed to attack posters) is to trash Allison. That one time she mentioned Adam’s set being too loud they started bashing Allison. She is not memorable/I can’t understand anything she sings/if it wasn’t for Adam…yada, yada, yada.
You’re welcome :) It is a poppy song, but pretty catchy. So much radio play that it gets stuck in my head!
I will check it out!
ETA:
Yep I think he would. Maybe a little too much guitar for me. Alli loves boots I think Orianthi loves sneakers!
Well, its been nice knowing you guys… I think when PRM reads your comments she’ll have your heads on a platter. LOL.
Awww… thanks for making me feel better. See… you really do have transformative powers!
I interpreted the excitement/stability thing differently, as in… she has an exciting job, but she has a stable family and home life that keeps her grounded.
LOL!
Eye rolls for that and the back bend he does in front of Monte later. It all still looks like an act to me.
Mr. allilurker… lol. If its got screaming guitars, I’m sure he love it. I’ll let you know.
You could be right. PRM takes no prisoners!
I don’t think she reads this thread though, or we would have had comments from her by now. She doesn’t seem to be too interested in small talk.
Big news. My 16-year-old niece (wife’s brother’s daughter) is at the Cow Palace, SF, auditioning for Idol Season 10. I guess I would call her genre country western. Well, wish her luck and we’ll see what happens.
Did either of you happen to pick up on a post some days or weeks ago in one of the tour threads, I believe, where someone theorized that Allison may have ADD? I’m not supporting this theory, totally unsubstantiated, and certainly would never want to spread it as a rumor. But, if so, it might explain her difficulty sometimes in carrying on a cohesive conversation. BTW, people with ADD are perfectly capable of excelling in activities which excite their interests, or passions. A prime example is Michael Phelps with swimming.
Our son has never been diagnosed with ADD, but he feels he may have a mild case of it. He has never been able to study for more than 10 or 15 minutes at a time, even in the library, while he has observed other students study for hours at a time without taking a break. Yet, he was able to whip through all of the Harry Potter books. He rarely could concentrate on a lecture without daydreaming. Still, he managed to graduate from one of the better UC campuses with a very respectable GPA – and he has won several awards for his writing skills. So, this is in no way meant to put down anyone with ADD. Again, I’m not saying that Allison has it. To quote Allison: “You Don’t Know Me.”
Bottom line, if for whatever reason Allison might never becomes an accomplished public speaker, it should not be held against her for being an outstanding musician. BTW, Janis Joplin was a horrible public speaker.
Uh oh! If you come here PRMari we had no bad inentions :) I love your constant championing of Allison. Also, you have more guts then I do. I wouldn’t want to stick my neck out in the Adam thread and dare to go against the grain. Scary!
Are we actually afraid of PRM? I wished her a happy birthday on alliholics, and coined the term “Protector of Allison” (POA), so maybe she’ll give me a pass on this one.
Good to hear :)
Ok that makes sense.
Best wishes to her! It would be so cool if she got in. We could have someone on the inside. Lol.
I didn’t see this. She does seem rather hyper, but I am not sure if that just may be partially due to her age.
In regards to her interview skills she does appear to have troubles holding a good conversation. I was listening to a little bit of audio from the one she did with Rockstar Weekly (?) and she stutters in certain parts and can’t find the words to answer some questions. This could be an attention problem or maybe she just isn’t good with formal questions. Sometimes certain questions seem to require more in-depth thinking and she doesn’t want to bother really thinking about it. Who knows maybe she is better at having a conversation in a normal setting or with people that she is comfortable with.
alli lurker is good at interpreting, maybe she can come up with something.
I am just a little. Lol. She is fierce when it comes to protecting Allison. Very fitting title jordison. She will give you a pass. Me? I don’t know.
Have either of you noticed MidAgeAllisonFan (or something close to that) who comments on just about every Allison youtube video, usually something like “The future queen of rock and roll!”
I don’t know if this is someone who posts over here with a different identity, but this person did register on Alli’s official site. (I no longer go there, ever since there were a couple of way OTT postings that kinda creeped me out.)
Anyway, I think I saw comments from this person under one of Allison’s tour videos saying “did you hear me screaming?” On that video there was a woman’s voice shrieking throughout the song. Surprised me, because for some reason I always thought MidAgedAllisonFan was a middle aged man. Unless, of course, I got it wrong and it wasn’t the same person.
I guess the point to this is to compare PRMari to other devoted Allison fans, besides the alliholics administrators and ourselves, of course. :)
ETA – Just to be clear, the OTT postings on Allison’s site were not from MidAgeAllisonFan.
If this isn’t enough screaming guitar for him, then nothing will ever satisfy him. :)
To the point:
MAAF on the spot!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PboemXSjws0&feature=player_embedded
Okay, let me just plug into my dap (deep and profound) knowledge and let me interpret this for you… Actually I have the same problem (one of the reasons I’m a fan)… I think the problem is that she blanks out when she gets nervous – just like on stage – and she can’t find the word. That happens to me, too. I hate it. I am also a crappy public speaker. Sometimes I think I have ADD, too… I’m easily distracted and have trouble finishing things.
I think she reads it. She’s omnipresent. Don’t think you’re safe even in this relative bomb shelter. LOL! I’m just kidding… you guys didn’t say anything horrible.
And hard at work, (assuming this name variation is her), just 27 minutes ago (along with the ever present MAAF):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHibCW6fM5k&feature=player_embedded
BTW: I’m not a fan of the album version of FIBOU, but Allison has really worked it out into something good live. This was a really good one.
Yep, that’s her! I think she’s also the voice of the Alliholics twitter (part-time, anyway) – I noticed she spells whoa the same way – woah.
Tsk, tsk. And from a college professor!
I think I’m really in trouble now.
Re: MAAF: I really think that’s a guy. I thought I saw a picture on Allison’s web site. (I suppose it could be a very masculine looking woman. Or maybe a man with a high voice? LOL) Where’s the video with the screaming?
I gotta leave for awhile, be back later tonight.
You’re just asking for it now! :)
You two are cracking me up! I was just exercising (yuck) and listening to No One Else. I just love the one from Denver. I think this is one of my favorite performances from the entire tour.
Yeah I see that comment all the time. It is a little OTT for me, but I guess he feels it. I don’t even bother with Allison’s site. I read it when it first opened and JohnM, PRM and others were there. Then the posts starting going in random order and it was too hard to follow.
I am pretty sure we are all normal (at least I hope so ;) ) I know what you mean about some of the crazies. I haven’t watched them, but have you seen those videos from that one girl that keep popping up in regards to DWTP and radio spins?
See I knew you good boil it down for us! This makes a lot of sense though. It seems like she gets nervous and almost panics slightly (or gets flustered) because she is trying to find the answer. She knows it’s an interview and they want quick responses.
Haha! I would think she would comment if she did read it though. She usually participates and with all of the ramblings we have been having I find it hard to believe that she hasn’t wanted to join in on something.
I always wonder who runs this thing. They do a fantastic job! It’s too bad that they didn’t have this during the tour last year. They would have a lot more followers (as they should!)
One more cry in the dark by PRMari – a beacon of light in a sea of darkness, responding to a post I made on the tour thread which, of course, went without comment.
Of course, to prove the point, immediately followed by a comment about Adam’s crotch.
On that note, I’m going to break for dinner.
jordison – here’s your wife’s (and Val’s) birthday:
August 16
Powerful
Focused
Creative
You were born to be special and you have an enormous amount of energy and drive. Your innovative and restless spirit moves you past limitations into the world of magic and miracles. You are a visionary who is not afraid to take risks and who accepts the price of change when the need arises.
Maybe we should all jump on one of the concert threads at the beginning when its slow and just shock the hell out of them by posting a ton of Allison stuff. That would be fun.
I admire her persistence. She is absolutely unafraid to barge right in on the crazy. Lol.
That would be hysterical. If she were wearing the pants we could start losing our minds over it. What could we talk about ad nauseam? Maybe spam with awesome Alli pics?
Saw this Alli tweet
Bet she is really eager to go home. What we will talk about once the tour is over. Haha! I hope she doesn’t fade off for a long time. I kind of want the tour to be over though so she can start working on another album.
Ok good :)
jordison was mentioning the more OTT fans. When looking for tour videos this girl keeps posting her own videos about trying to promote Allison. I can’t bring myself to watch any of them. It looks embarrassing.
Here is her page:
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheJamie4realzzz#p/u
We were on a roll today! We posted over 40 posts.
I showed this to Mr. A. He watched it a couple of times. He said this was not really Voodoo Child, but Voodoo Child Slight Return (?) and that many people get them confused. He was impressed that she covered the song. He thought it was pretty good, but she missed some of the subtleties. He said that Jimmy used to play the guitar in front of the speakers to get feedback and more noise – like Orianthi does here. He chuckled to watch her run back and forth on the big stage.
He also had me listen to Stevie Ray Vaughn’s cover and somebody named Poppa Chubby’s cover of this song. Then he told me about other guitar players he likes. It was quite an educational evening!
I did not know this, but he owns both of Orianthi’s albums, and likes them.
Small update if you are interested:
Enough for another album? (If I could just get my hands on the numbers!) I wish we knew someone with big bucks who could finance another album. Lol.
Guess this shows how important radio play is. I know that LLWD has been out longer (or at least compared to Archie’s song), but even with both of their die-hard fan bases, without radio you can’t sell that much.
I have heard these are better. Less poppy. I think Ori is almost done on the tour. Allison better start upping her calorie intake. lol. She will need the extra carbs.
Last post of the night
We always seem to get a bunch of video from one song on the same night or nothing at all. I just saw a 3rd version of last nights No One Else.
Speaking of which (can you tell I love this song!)
All full videos of the song so far:
alli lurker I went to read the concert stats thread and saw Allison’s name come up in regards to her opening for Adam. I saw someone say this:
I was a good girl and left the thread in order to avoid any negativity (you know it hits the fan a little.) Haha! I am trying!
oops!
Can I just say I hate classes where I am basically going to be teaching myself! Seriously how do some people get these jobs?
Anyways…
This looks like it would have been a fun venue
http://tweetphoto.com/39999846
MJ is going to the show tomorrow and she always gets awesome quality videos. Should be good!
Wow. Don’t get me started on this one. If you’re at a large research university – forget it. It’s publish or perish. Very few of these professors have the desire or skills to teach undergraduates. Most of them (that is the ones who actually do the lecturing themselves and don’t pass the buck to inexperienced grad students) just read from PowerPoint slides. And, in many cases they have accents so thick most students can’t understand them. Our son survived most of his classes on textbooks and PowerPoint lecture handouts. Discussion sections generally were useless – TAs were inexperienced and confused. Exam questions are designed for easy scantron grading. Questions are designed to trick students rather than test for real understanding of the subject, in order to establish a grading curve. Professors say to study “x”, then test entirely for “y”. God forbid everyone should do well.
Our son’s classes were mostly in the math/sciences. I think small classes in the humanities might have a better chance of offering real instruction. Maybe. Anyway, he said he only had 3 or 4 good instructors in his 4 undergrad years, even with researching professors on ratemyprofessors.com in order to make the best choices, when possible. And this was at a very highly nationally rated public university.
At least you’re on the semester system, instead of quarters. The quarter system is insane.
Like I said, don’t get me started.
ooh jordison I think I hit a nerve. Haha!
I completely understand. It is very frustrating to say the least. For certain classes I can get by with a mediocre (at best) professor. Either the subject is fairly simple or it is not a subject I will be pursuing further. However, some classes I need a really good teacher. I have changed professors (if possible) in past math classes. This is one subject where I must get good instruction. I can’t follow along by myself with the book. You have to show me how to do it.
At the school I am going to you have to take up to a 3rd level in a language course in order to graduate. I didn’t know this and I took up to level 2, but this was a few years ago. I really didn’t want to waste my time taking level 2 again so I just decided to try taking level 3. Not too sure how this is going to work out because so far the instruction style doesn’t seem to be suited to me at all. I like things to be orderly (as we have discussed. lol) and for their to be a plan of some sort. Some people appear to be winging it or just randomly following along the chapter. I just hope I can get at least a B and get the heck out of there! I would change professors, but with the rest of my schedule there are no other options.
On topic…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrvi5dWxRUU&feature=channel
This is the biggest tease of a high quality video or what!
No videos from last night. *sigh*
ETA: Did she do No One Else last night even though Ori was there?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/noday16/4909049655/in/set-72157624639982133/
(more good pictures here too!)
I really like her hair like this. The curls are much softer than when she was wearing it curly on the tour last year. Much better than the “curls” in Providence the other night. Lol.
From the concert thread:
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f293/merrynpippin/4909655816_501cceeed9_btimmmc.jpg
jordison I forgot to ask how your niece did at the San Francisco audition. Hopefully it was a good experience!
Well, she didn’t make it to the next step. I won’t say that I was shocked to hear that, even though she’s a pretty decent singer. But, I think she falls into that vast middle of neither being ridiculously bad nor outrageously good.
Still, she and her mom evidently had a pretty good time in SF, and saw Ryan while dining at a restaurant one evening.
/
I think it would be great if Allison would mix up her set list somewhat for the rest of the tour. We could start a discussion on that for the next tour thread and talk the subject to death. :)
Another hot topic to discuss to the point of absurdity: Why does Allison have one suspender on and one suspender off during No One Else? Has this happened before? What brand of suspenders are they – was there a clasp failure, or was this a fashion statement? How many pairs does she own? Where can we get suspenders just like hers? Is there a hidden meaning between either the right or left suspender hanging? Do you think some day she might throw her suspenders into the crowd? Would they be sweaty, and would you lick the sweat? Would this be good or bad for her career? Should she just wear a belt? What kind of a belt? Did you notice that Liz wore suspenders? Were they the same brand? Is this OK, or is she moving into Allison’s territory?
It sounds like it takes a lot of luck to get to the next round. I am amazed that they said yes to Allison considering the show never seemed that enthusiastic about her. Good to hear that she had a great time though. It can be a fun story for her to tell.
Hahaha! This.is.genius! I wonder what would happen if you started this in the thread? I am not sure where alli lurker is so it would be rather strange if it was the two of us. Lol. I am amazed you could come up with that many questions just off the topic of suspenders!
Eww, but so funny! Should we then analyze her tights? How many questions can we come up with for those?
I checked Orianthi’s site and she is only listed for the next 2 shows. This could just be a lack of updating though. I do agree that she should change it up. Why not do DWTP or Just Like You acoustic? I know we all want her to try DIFD and YDKM. Maybe bring back out Piece of My Heart? Another cover? They have to be itching for a little change.
Eww – that was the point. 99% of the tour thread comments are EWW.
Why not bring back Killing Me Softly? I know I always say Trouble Is, and PRM says it would be too hard on her voice, buy KMS would give her a nice breather in the middle of her set.
Yes, and still leaving one in suspense!
Lol. I knew that was your point, just still saying eww at the thought. Haha! Those threads are very strange to say the least. Few goodies every now and then though.
Going to have to agree with PRM here (see on your side PRM :) ) I am not a big fan of the song Killing Me Softly. I am not sure what other cover she should do. I am not good at coming up with those. I still want her to do Still Breathing acoustically. I am curious.
Wow there is more?!
Sorry, I was being too grammatically formal when I said “one.”
What I meant was a pun: “leaving you (or us, or someone) in suspense.” Suspenders – suspend – suspense.
Sometimes I think I try too hard with the puns.
Sorry about that jordison. I guess that is the problem with internet communication sometimes. Lol.
From our MJ:
This should be interesting. Sounds like she went into the audience tonight and serenaded a “mature” gentleman.
But, there were no reports that she let him lick the sweat off her suspenders. :)
OhEmGee – Excited about the vids!
Lets hope she doesn’t follow Adam’s example and start giving lap dances…
Sorry I haven’t been around – and can’t stay now – but I’ll be back later.
BTW – Loved the spamming ideas jordison!
Hey guys – I don’t really have anything to say, so I’ll just wish you a very happy weekend.
Stevie Ray:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FovbfsgyuA
Careful Lauren – someone from “the dark side” might ask: “Coming over from where?” :)
Crap! Haha! Now it is my turn for a miscommunication. I meant coming over in the sense that I just got on the internet and was coming over to MJ’s. Luckily they never notice anything anyway. They are too busy worrying about the pressing topic of Adam’s hair. Always something.
No Gerry the last 2 nights huh. It has to just be the venue right? I like Scars with the keys better. I did read some comments on the Alliholics though about liking the bands sound overall without the keys. Someone said that Gerry played guitar too. Would be interesting if they dropped the keys and he played guitar.
Guess we get the full set, after tonight, from here on out! I wish they could make some set changes with the extra time. Our hopes for a change the other night with NOE were wrong I guess.
Finally going to see Inception today. I hope I can follow along with this movie. Lol. Usually I ask questions “what is going on,” “why is he doing that” when I watch movies at home, but most in the theater don’t usually appreciate it. Haha!
Taking a break from my endless projects at home – until my wife catches me – she’s on the phone! :)
Haven’t seen Inception Lauren, but I hear it’s pretty challenging to follow. Good luck.
I’m tempted to “throw a PRM” over the current gushing over the latest Costa Mesa poster being raved about on the tour thread. I always thought that a concert or tour poster is supposed to somehow acknowledge, even in a small way, the supporting acts. But if I were to say anything I’m sure the Glamberts would interpret this as sour grapes. So,it’s pointless.
I like Adam, but most of his fans are just so OTT into their Adamness, to the point of Adamnausea.
Regarding the lack of Gerry, I hope it was just lack of space on the stage. That venue sure was a logistical challenge. The band sounded really thin to me without the keyboard.
Allison seems to be getting fiercer all the time now. This came across in MJ’s videos – when we could see Allison instead of the back of the amps and assorted equipment. I love the bit with the cymbals on FIBOU. I also like the way she took a bow at the end. She’s getting much more polished with her stage presence.
I’ll miss Ori on the tour, although we rarely get any videos of her anyway. Ideal for me would be Allison’s long set, with Ori on DWTP, followed by Ori’s set, then Adam. I wouldn’t mind if the show ran a little longer.
Hehe. Sometimes you have to be sneaky to get on here.
Wow way too much work watching this movie. I like to relax and escape a little when going to the movies and with this one it required too much concentration. I went with my mom since she is usually really good at following movies. We got there so late that we had to sit separately since there weren’t 2 seats side-by-side. Anyways, after the movie was over she said “don’t even ask me what happened!” lol. Very creative movie, but I think I like more fluff.
Yeah I usually find it pretty pointless too. Why bother ruffling their feathers. Wish I knew how to make one. We could do something glamtastic with just Allison and be sure to post it in every thread.
Lol. Are you sure it is not glamnausea.
I thought this would be a fun venue, but I can see now that it is not the most optimal place to play.
Hopefully she keeps this up. It could just be that she doesn’t have an easy exit here though. She should do something to acknowledge the crowd instead of just literally running off the stage. She works hard too!
Oh definitely this would be ideal. I like Ori and DWTP is better with her there. I just didn’t like Allison always getting such a short set. It is too bad they couldn’t find a way to cut down on some of the intermission time to make quality time for both of them.
Still no word on whether Gerry was there, but we need video (like we don’t always ;) ) of tonight:
Wow sounds like some shenanigans on Ori’s last night. Hehe.
Also jordison what is the meaning behind tonight’s suspenders? Lol
http://twitpic.com/2gz6xh
She had both of them down. Dun Dun Dun…
http://tweetphoto.com/40585912
Too bad this wasn’t clearer. Looks like a sweet picture.
joridson did you read the concert thread at all? Those people at RCA are pretty smart with all of this random Adam merch they keep coming up with. He has more dance re-mixes, an acoustic ep coming, and now some fan site with membership and meet and greets or something to this effect. They know that he has a good amount of very loyal fans who will buy anything. I can’t even begin to imagine how much they are making from tour merchandise. Very interesting I think.
I think she reads this thread and she’s just messing with us. :)
God I could only imagine what would be going through her head if she read this thread! I have noticed that she is really limiting her outfits these days to 2 or 3 even though she has worn others. If you are reading Allison, wear the dress from AZ again. I will see this as a sign that you read here :) lol.
DWTP:(only partial though)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUM-S3LTuEk
@:22 Huh… what to say about this. lol.
According to You:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5_MTX-EJjQ
@3:20 is more head banging. haha. Allison even loves to throw around the broom stick like she does the mic stand.
(they also have more Ori videos if you are interested!)
Isn’t this around the time that Allison was supposed to leave the tour? Maybe Gerry wasn’t able to extend his time due to a prior commitment. I miss the keyboard, too – mostly for the Intro… I always love that.
I hate to say this, but I think she might be getting a bit TOO fierce. I think she could tone it down a bit. Save the fierce for one or two songs. I miss the straight hair, too. The wavy (too long, imo) hair makes her look even more wild. Maybe with the long set she’ll have a chance to ‘bring it down’.
Oh boy, there’s so many things I could say about this… how about… “She said she needed to grow balls when Orianthi was on stage and it looks like she may have actually done it!”
That’s not at all what I meant by ‘sexing it up’! LOL! A little subtlety would be good…
I almost forgot about that dress. I tried the ‘sign thing’ once… it didn’t happen. But who knows?
You know, I’ve complained a bunch of times about Allison’s lack of tweeting, but I do think that if her career dies it will be because she neglects her fans. I think its hard to care about someone who doesn’t seem to care about you (not me personally, but her fans as a whole). It seems to me that she only cares about other performers and doesn’t really think about anything else. Am I being too harsh, or do you guys have that feeling, too?
I am taking psychology and right now we are covering the brain. I have a hard time comprehending so many functions at once. There is this part and that part and this part inside that one. I thought I would come here for a break because I think I am getting cranky. Lol.
One word: cheap! I bet they didn’t want to pay to have him on the rest of the tour. Confusing though because her original end date was July 20th. I guess it could be due to other obligations though too. I love the holiday intro :( I also think the guitar is too quiet on Scars. It works in a small setting like she did for radio promo, but not in these theatres.
Yes on the too fierce, no on the hair. Lol. Sometimes I think she is too spazzy and needs to take it down a notch. I like fierce, but when it is so all over the place she tends to not focus on the singing as much. I have already stated that I like the wavy hair.
Maybe it was just the last show antics or maybe she is getting bored?
I think there are at least 3 dresses that she only wore once. Come on Allison bring one of them out!
That’s why I was saying she needs to interact with the fans more on twitter. Maybe a few thanks here and there. People send her compliments and love all the time.
OK looking at the threads for the day I thought this was interesting: Kris Allen touring w/ Lifehouse.
It seems so much easier to find fits for touring for him then Allison. He has had quite a few different opportunities (lifehouse, Keith Urban, Barenaked Ladies, The Fray etc.) This also makes me think of the country music talk we had last week. People in country who come off the show have a lot more options for touring with big names. Just look at Danny with Sugarland and Carrie toured with Brad Paisley. I can’t think of a more experienced person that Allison would fit with (Pink or Kelly Clarkson would bring on too many comparisons.) I read once that Allison may have had an opportunity to open a few (10 maybe) shows for Paramore (before the GN tour started.) This would probably bring comparisons too. On the other hand I am ready for her to start working on something else. She did gain experience on this tour even if it didn’t bring a lot of new exposure.
Oh and I was reading tweets last night:
It seems to be the common theme: Allison needs better songs.
LOL! I preferred wavy for a long time, too. Maybe she could go back and forth.
Don’t know if you saw it, but there’s a video interview with Crystal where she says that a lot of the songs she writes could be country. She’s probably wising up to the fact that she could do better as a country artist. The girl grew up on a farm, she could totally do country.
Its hard for me to think like an 18-year-old. I wonder if she has low self-esteem and doesn’t feel she deserves the compliments. Maybe she’s not comfortable with her writing skills. Or maybe she just doesn’t give a damn (sadly, this is the impression I get). I’ve said it a million times, but it really doesn’t take much effort. She should follow Liz’s lead and just give people a brief update every once and a while. And I agree about the thanks – Orianthi does that. I think fans would love her for it, and she’d gain more followers.
I thought of Sheryl Crow and Melissa Etheridge. Sheryl’s touring with Cobbie Caillat and Melissa is touring by herself I think. They might not have the right vibe though. It sounds like Melissa is going to be working with Crystal, too.
I don’t know, Allison may have been too immature right now to go out with a lot of singers/bands.
We’re going to see Heart on Thursday at the same venue we saw Allison (way better seats!). It would have been cool to see her open for them. There’s quite an age difference, though. Pat Benatar was out touring, too. She could have learned a lot from these people, but might not have gained any younger fans from it.
Yep, Adam’s cashing in big time. His OTT fans will do anything to ‘help him’ and ‘spread his message of love’.
Lauren – I’m sorry you have to study. School can be fun, but the studying/homework always hanging over your head is a drag. I did it for a long time myself.
It looks like a new outfit tonight… short, tight black skirt with tights – my favorite! Do you think its a sign, lol! ETA: OMG so many crappy twit pics! I can barely see her.
Speaking of outfits… I think Orianthi always looks good, maybe Allison should use her stylist.
Oh wow, I hope there’s vids!
Not great, but… http://tweetphoto.com/40986927 http://tweetphoto.com/40984883
F*ck this person. I get so tired of this.
alli lurker you were on a roll tonight! I love it. I will make some comments about all of your comments, but just wanted to say quickly that I enjoyed them all.
Sounds good to me! I like it straight too, it’s just nice to see the wavy once in a while. I do think her hair at the end of last year was a bit too curly though.
I read that briefly when passing by that thread. I can see this being a fit, but I have to wonder about crystal/country/jive combo. They don’t have any country artists on their label that I am aware of. It just seems to be the genre everyone wants to go in these days if you don’t want to do dance/pop. I will say that country seems to be one of the few genres that still really buys cd’s (unless you are katy perry, beiber, etc. who are all going to fade away soon anyways at least I hope so. I think Miley will be one her way out soon enough!)
I can’t figure Allison out period. Haha! I could see low self-esteem being one reason though. I have seen her in interviews where she feels uncomfortable talking about herself so much. She may worry about coming across as arrogant. The whole not caring could also be a factor. I guess this is one of the downsides of being a fan of someone as young as she is. I forget about her age so easily when she is performing I have to remind myself that she still is so young. Liz tweets about EVERYTHING. Lol. I saw Ori tweeting thanks and I am sure the fans would love to be acknowledged by Allison. I know she must get a lot of compliments from people. It would make a difference if we knew that she was actually reading them (which I am sure she is she just doesn’t let us know!)
I kept hearing about this on the radio. I don’t think they would have the right vibe eithther. That is the problem with all the pop songs they keep trying to push on Allison. She needs to get away from this style. I just don’t think her vocal tone is meant for this type of music. When I think of pop it is more about the beat than the vocals.
I can see this. It is a bit frustrating though that we cant seem to find the right fit.
Awesome! You will have to tell us about it. I am sure your husband won’t be traumatized by this. lol. I would love to see Allison open for them (a duet would be cool.) It would be fun, but probably not the best for an entire tour. Once again probably not the right fit due to the music she has.
Aww thanks alli lurker :) Do you mind me asking what your major in school was?
Ooh Ooh I want to see! I haven’t looked at anything from tonight yet. Important words I am seeing her are short and tight. Lol. Why is it when she wears something new there are NO good pics. Yet she wears the black and white dress for the 15th time and there are pictures galore.
Really? I thought a lot of her outfits were quite strange. She always had on weird shiny tights with sneakers. Maybe I just haven’t looked at enough pictures. Her style didn’t look like one that would fit Allison.
Ahh now I want these! Hopefully No One Else is recorded. I am still trying to find one that will top Denver.
Hahaha! You tell them alli lurker. It is so frustrating. I can admit that she doesn’t have the purest voice so a few words here and there can get lost, but it is NOT THAT HARD to understand her. Like I said a while back there are diction police. They will pop up whenever and wherever she performs.
http://twitpic.com/2hm4mb
just because. haha.
Any fans of the food network? This channel is brutal when you are hungry. lol. Diners, Drive-Ins, and Dives is one of my faves, but always makes me so hungry.
http://www.twitvid.com/LJYAZ
let’s hope this is not all we are going to get. haha!
just trying to see how many posts I can do in one night. lol
and
http://www.boston.com/ae/music/articles/2010/08/23/adam_lambert_cut_loose_at_south_shore_music_circus/
From a poster about tonight:
Need those videos! Pictures too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EMTN2QLGAw&feature=channel
Awesome! This youtube channel has her entire set from last night! I don’t have time to watch right now, but if anyone else does I would love to hear what the highlights are :)
Better!
http://twitpic.com/2ho0yi
http://twitpic.com/2ho1b3
School saga continued: Holy Sh!t the schools are trying to rob you blind! They want $293 for parking per semester. I have been trying to line up a possible bus/train route, but I am not sure yet. I have a night class soon so I just wanted to post this quickly (still haven’t had time to watch all the videos. Did see that Scars was the full version though! Fill me in later if you watch them.)
It makes me uncomfortable when people put her on the spot about why her music isn’t selling or her songs aren’t being played. I feel bad for her and what exactly is she supposed to say? I wish I would have known about this so I could send my usual question about DIFD and YDKM ;)
I watched them. The camera person doesn’t do a good job of following her around, so the best ones are the ones where she stays in one place – Scars and No One Else. Those are both great. Its nice to hear all of Scars… I like the second half wailing part. She dedicates No One Else to her family and appears to get pretty choked up about it. Its good, but not as good as Denver, imo, hahaha!
Like that poster said, she does appear to engage the audience by speaking to them quite a bit. At the beginning of DWTP (also end of Scars) she says that was Scars, the second single from her album Just Like You and she tells the audience they should check it out at the merch stand. Yay!! Allison pimped her album!! I’m impressed!! She must have been talking to Adam, lol. She also introduced DWTP as her current single.
I thought she seemed mellower than the last couple of shows, which is nice for a change. And of course I loved the outfit.
Yeah, well it comes and goes… At the end of last week it was pretty much gone!
Haha! Maybe that’s what keeps us interested.
Gonna submit now so we can closer to the next page!
Wow, you two are on a roll again. It’ll take me most of the evening to respond to everything. Right now I have to go out on errands, so I’ll make this short.
First of all, I’m genuinely concerned that there was a concert in Albany last night with no comment from JohnM. Albany is his hometown. He had mentioned that he had some health problems and I hope everything is alright. One of the problems with these cyber communications is that we have no way of knowing what happens when someone just suddenly drops off.
Let me address the least Allison related topic to get it out of the way: my wife and son both love DD&D and Man vs. Food. (I like these too). My wife also is nuts over the cake shows: Ace of Cakes and Cake Boss. I admit that we’ve watched Hell’s Kitchen, Chopped and now Master Chef. (I just go along for the ride with these). Shows that my wife loves that I can’t stand: anything on HGTV, including Property Virgins, Design (whatever)and the ones where rich spoiled Americans go to 3rd world countries to buy cheap vacation property.
When I come back I have some comments about “fierce”, tweeting, etc.
And, BTW, I still haven’t had time to watch the whole set from last night, but Thank God Allison’s now doing the whole Scars. I will never understand the rationale behind singing only the first half of that song and leaving off the best part.
Later.
Really? I always think she looks pretty cool. Lots of interesting jackets and layers, and she always seems to be wearing something different. I guess there have been a few misses, too. I remember a leopard top that wasn’t very flattering.
I’m not saying that this look would work on Allison, but I think she does a good job for Ori and maybe she could do a good job for Allison.
Nah, I’m more of an HGTV person… all the pretty houses! Sometimes I’ll watch the Barefoot Contessa on the Food Network because I love her shingle style house in the Hamptons.
Thanks for sharing this review. So… I guess all Idols could use better material on their first album!! Its pretty crazy how little time they have to put it together. I also chuckled about this part:
When I was at my show I was talking to two gay guys sitting next to me who didn’t even know Adam was in town until they just happened to be walking by the venue that night. They bought their tickets from a woman who had upgraded. Anyway, they were saying how excited they were about the small venue because they thought it would be just an intimate performance and not ‘a show’. I said, “Oh no, its gonna be ‘a show’!” Lol! But I had the same feeling as the reviewer… It seemed like too much for the venue. I can’t even imagine how it was on those tiny stages in the tents!
That’s hilarious… I’m saying I like HGTV while you’re saying you hate it! Design (whatever)… LOL!
Its definitely a chick channel, jordison. My husband would never watch it. He’s obsessed with war shows on the history channel.
I generally don’t like the people who go to the foreign countries (especially when the trophy wife says things like, “what do you think, babe?”), but I like to see what kind of houses they have there.
ETA: To be honest, I’ve been watching very little TV lately. Maybe I should just go with hulu/netflix. Does anybody know if Idol is on hulu?
Ok I am supposed to be getting ready for class, but reading your posts is way more fun!
Thanks alli lurker for all of the details! I can hardly believe she said that much. Probably a little too late for this album, but still good to get in the habit of doing (promoting).
I think you are onto something…
Goodness I forgot about him living there. It is frustrating because he was one who seemed really invested. The only thing I can say is that I have seen his wife posting here a few times in the last couple of months. Of course this doesn’t necessarily mean that he is ok. I don’t want to come out and ask her where he is though.
Haha! I love both channels. They are good go to channels when there is nothing else on. I would lean more towards the FN just because I love food. Lol. Not a big fan of the cake shows though. Those, to me, are more about the drama. I do like chopped though. It is a creative show. I like watching people try to make a dish with blue jelly beans or other weird ingredients. As for HGTV how can you not like property virgins? Lol. This is one of my faves. I do agree though about the vacation homes. I always am amazed at the people who are spending so much money on a vacation home.
I think it was strictly a time issue. I miss the keys on this.
I do like the layering and that she changed it up a lot. I wouldn’t mind more of this.
Sure! I still can’t believe the time frame they have to do the whole album in. I am a little envious of this year’s contestants who get a shorter tour. More time for the stuff that really matters.
Haha!
You guys are cracking me up. I guess it is more of a chick channel. Lol.
Here’s one more alli lurker (from last night)
http://blog.timesunion.com/localarts/adam-lambert-the-palace-theatre-82310/7590/
Be back later. I look forward to any more posts!
Weird… this picture looks like she’s just wearing a bikini and boots!
http://twitpic.com/2hw3i2
Another hard to see…
http://twitpic.com/2hw3l5
Oh, its the black and white dress…
http://twitpic.com/2hw69r
They say she’s crying during Scars… poor Alli!
So jordison… I just watched San Francisco couple Don and Ellen buy a vacation home in Napa. Budget = $1.5 – $2 Million. They settled on the cottage with the vineyard view. Don didn’t like the cheap finishes and the fact that it didn’t have a pool. Ellen loved the separate artist studio – she paints in her spare time. Both were sold on the view.
I don’t think you’d like them. :)
Wow the pictures of Adam in this review are really bad! Kind of a strange review… he pretty much says how great Adam is, but that his show sucked. I have to agree with this… “his between-song patter is embarassingly insipid.”
Loved the “energetic shoutiness” and “rocker to watch” in regard to Allison.
So sorry I missed them (not). My wife didn’t want to watch Glee reruns and was trying for Cake Boss or something like that, but we settled on watching the Angels, who are in the process of losing yet another game.
I honestly have a hard time getting excited about which of 3 houses these people choose. They all seem the same to me. The only ones that crack me up are the people who get all excited about buying and fixing up some “historical site” somewhere in Europe that doesn’t have a toilet or even 4 walls around it. Complete rubble.
watching house hunters right now!
I’ve done some twitter stalking and I think JohnM is okay (alive anyway). I don’t think he lives in Albany anymore. I’m still a bit angry at him for just disappearing like that, but I think he’s busy with other things. I think we can just wish him well and move on.
That’s why property virgins is my favorite. There is more mystery in this one because they usually see a lot of different houses so you are not sure which one they will end up with. I also like that we see the bidding wars. The only downside is that we don’t get the update that we do with House Hunters. I love the “3 months later” bits. I want to see what they did with the place.
Lol. Seems like way too much work to me.
Holy crap we are all here at the same time!
hehe. Don’t you just love that we are calling ourselves “stalkers.” Scary to think about who may actually be reading things that you put out there. That is good to hear (that he is alright.)
Hey, we’re all on at the same time!
Actually I DVR’d this one the other night because I wanted to see Napa.
I can’t stand Glee. I’ve tried to watch a couple of times and I just do not like it. I thought the Madonna episode was a huge disappointment.
alli lurker, did your husband by any chance watch the HBO 10 part series “The Pacific?” It was a little too violent for my wife, but I really got into it. In fact, I ended up reading the two books on which the series was based: Helmet for My Pillow by Robert Leckie and With the Old Breed at Peleliu and Okinowa by Eugene Sledge. I’ve just recently started reading The Pacific, by Hugh Ambrose.
haha! It does.
Aww. I wonder if she is homesick. I wouldn’t blame her one bit. She is probably ready to go home. I can’t believe this tour has been going for almost 3 months. Her voice (not to jinx her!) may just hold up.
Yeah I did a few eyerolls at these parts of the show.
Definitely!
Napa is beautiful. So are Sonoma and Mendocino Counties. In fact, our son is in the process of moving to Sonoma County for a year as an AmeriCorps volunteer. We should be going up there soon to visit, after he gets settled.
Mendocino, though, is my favorite place. Looks a lot like a New England coastal town, but surrounded by tall coastal redwoods.
I love that part, too!
I know, and I felt bad doing it, but it was such a mystery with him.
This is a small miracle! lol
Bringing out the moves again (another angle)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8quTKLMC7Y @:15
Lauren, how are your classes so far? Are you current with your assignments? Do we need to remind you to study?
Hope this doesn’t bug you, but since my son just graduated I still seem to have this need to be a “helicopter parent.” :)
I don’t think so, we don’t have HBO. Is it out on DVD?
I was in Napa once for just a day. I’ve always wanted to go back. Maybe we should use some of our vaca for a trip there. Where is Mendocino? Is it north of San Fran?
It is really important (to me anyway) because so many of them discuss fixing the house up. It is like having a makeover show (even if I don’t like the style or they didn’t do much) within a few minutes.
Ahh it’s alright. Most of this stuff is pretty public. It is twitter after all. Haha (maybe I am just defending you because I do it too. Lol)
alli lurker did you watch HGTV design star? Now jordison (since you watch the FN) did you watch The Next Foodnetwork Star? Watch other shows could we talk about? Haha. This is what it is going to come to when there is nothing Allison related to discuss.
It doesn’t bother me at all jordison. I think it is so sweet of you to ask :)
They are going well so far. I am not too fond of the one professor that I already spoke of earlier, but I am used to having to deal with classes/professors I don’t like. Lol. Lots of experience with this in high school. I think I have bad luck. Anyways, all of my assignments are being kept up and the studying will be happening this week because I already have my first test next week. I am really good at self management and keeping things in order. My mom never really had to check my school work growing up because I just did it. I also am big on the A’s so I try my best to do everything I can to get them.
I DVR’d the series and usually skim through it pretty quick. I just watched the last one tonight. I was kind of surprised the girl won. I liked the guy’s final design better.
Did you see the first episode? Emily’s room was horrible! I like her personality, though.
This sounds very nice! I have never heard of this place either. I would love to visit New England some time (even if I hate the Patriots. lol.) The only place on the east coast I have gone to is New York.
That’s true, it is! What’s funny about HGTV is you can just watch the last five minutes of most of the shows and see everything you want to see. I’ll put the TV on that channel and then 1 1/2 hours later I’ll go in and watch the last five minutes of three shows.
Don’t you just love DVR’s! That is how I watch a lot of these shows. I skim through to the good parts and have the whole episode watch in 10-15 minutes. I wasn’t surprised Emily won just because I felt like Michael (? geez I can’t even remember his name) seemed kind of mean throughout the show. They didn’t really give him an edit for someone that would win the show.
I watched it, but don’t remember her room. I do remember her not doing so well. Was she close to going home episode 1?
Any other reality shows that you watch?
Does anyone else ever have troubles uploading posts here? Sometimes it takes too long for the new page to load and then I have to keep refreshing over and over to try to get the site back up.
Oh yeah. I know the shows don’t want to hear this, but all I really care about is the destination, not the journey. lol.
I lived in Boston for a couple of years – met my husband there. I think I could have stayed there, but housing is really expensive and the weather is not-so-great. Springtime is the worst – mud season. Its basically grey and crappy until July and then its summer. I like the people there, very pragmatic and not ostentatious.
What I really liked about Boston is that its so close to so many other places… Maine, Rhode Island, Vermont, NYC, Martha’s Vineyard (love!). Denver isn’t too close to anything else exciting except New Mexico.
Just saw this alli lurker. I agree that summer is not the best time for tv. I don’t watch much either. I just watch a few reality shows. About idol are you looking for a specific season? Just wondering.
Not tonight.
Its getting late here. I need to go to sleep. Good night!
http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/rumormill.cgi
I guess any press, even if bad, will help sell an album. Have you two run out to buy the new Katy Perry album? lol. I listened to a few of the songs and don’t think this album is as catchy as the last. Also, apparently she got more adds in one week than Adam has for his song which I think has been out since May or June. Amazing how they will play anything that is attached to a certain name.
I like cold crappy whether. lol. People tease me about being a bat because I like when it is dark and the sun is not out.
Wow I didn’t know that it was so close to all of those places. Just think of how many shows you could have seen if you lived in Boston. lol.
Just thinking the same thing. Goodnight alli lurker and jordison if you are still here. It was fun chatting with you :)
Here you go!
http://www.mendocinocoast.com/about.htm
The only access is by Highway 1, the winding Coast Highway, or a couple of beautiful 2 lane roads through the tall coastal redwoods. Some really nice B&Bs there.
On a break so real quickly:
http://twitpic.com/2i3dqs
I wonder if she was having a bad day. Maybe it was that interview. I just think that is mean to do to a young artist. “Why exactly is your album a failure?” Maybe I am just too sensititve. lol.
OK I missed this. What are we talking about here?
Sorry jordison for leaving you hanging on this question. Yesterday she gave an interview to this guy below. The alliholics were tweeting him questions for Allison so I went to his twitter account and these are some of the things he tweeted:
I am not sure exactly what he asked her yet since the interview isn’t out, but that note about asking her why her cd isn’t a huge hit kind of rubbed me the wrong way. Maybe it is not really that big of deal. I guess we will see next week.
Just wanted to say real quickly before I forgot… alli lurker I hope you have a great time tonight!
Aw, you’re so sweet, thanks!
There was an article about Heart in yesterday’s USA Today if anyone is interested:
http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/2010-08-25-heart25_CV_N.htm
A couple of interesting quotes (they have a new album out):
I’ll try to tell you about the concert when I get home tonight. If not, it’ll have to wait until Monday… we’re leaving tomorrow morning for a long weekend in the mountains.
I am absolutely terrible with directions. Hehe. I went to get my buss/train pass today and I was glad my mom went with me because I would have gotten so lost.
Wow I think you pulled the most perfect quotes out of that article. Thanks for sharing it.
I definitely get this sense. More albums out, more collaborations to try to stand out, etc. This shows that even if Allison is not a big commercial success right now she is certainly not the only one. I just hope the trends change (which they usually do) and we start moving away from the current sounds we hear all.the.time.
Haha. So true. This is why if Allison could gain some attention she would really surprise people. She just needs that one big break/moment.
Yep in one minute, out the next. That is why I think instant success is a bad thing. You are way too much of a fad. Then one someone new comes along everyone drops you like a hot potato and then you are probably not going to be taken seriously.
Amen! No one even bothers to pay attention to the actual voice these days.
Some more things from the Heart article:
Glad somebody sees it this way.
Ooh this sounds good for Allison.
I guess those music videos are as expensive as a lot of people say. I am glad they didn’t waste any money doing more for Allison since they never pushed the song very hard to radio anyways.
Here is more of that talk about trying to make artists more sexy. I guess that is something that is never going to end. I can’t imagine the pressure.
Now that I have analyzed that article. Lol…
Wow sounds like you are going to be extra busy. Hope you have a nice, relaxing weekend. I used to go camping in the mountains when I was younger. My grandparents like to camp and we would go with them. It was fun.
ETA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jdADuCJtv4&feature=channel
*Scars 8/24
Okay… I’m gonna try to make this quick. The Heart concert was FANTASTIC. ANN WILSON RULES!! Seriously, she sounds better than she ever did. She looks good, too. From where I was sitting I would have guessed she was in her 30s. Really, really strong stage presence. The band was really good, too.
They did Alone – it was kind of wimpy, just keyboard and Nancy on guitar. They also did Barracuda – the last song before the encore and the probably the best song of the night. She sings it better than Allison, but she could have used Tim on guitar.
Also loved Straight On http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WygqwuczdbU , Heartless, Crazy on You http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZuW6BH_Vak . Encores were covers… Led Zeppelin’s What Is and What Should Never Be http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtoeOQksSzE and The Who’s Love Reign O’er Me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDbAtWpoA6k . Really great!
The crowd was great, standing and dancing most of the night. Ann spoke to the crowd a lot, talking about the songs. It was a great show.
And now I’m very sleepy… off to bed.
You are probably gone alli lurker, but thanks for the review! I think Barracuda is probably better suited to Ann. Her vocal tone matches the song more. I still really like the one from The Tonight Show by Allison though.
I saw a couple of videos from Heart’s current tour:
Barracuda: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5QauuEkqFs
Alone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWZ5TEbO8Zs&feature=related
I have to agree about Alone. Not sure it was the best choice to go with less band. It seems more dramatic with the full band. She sounds great though!
(For when you get back) So would you say that your husband enjoyed this a lot more than the Glam Nation? lol.
Have you guys seen these?
I saw those last night! Thanks for bringing them over here too. They are beautiful. I have no idea how to do stuff like this, but it looks amazing. I am torn on which one is my favorite. I love her hair in the first one.
OK, now I’m in for it. I meant this as a private message on this thread, but I entered it on the Richmond tour thread by mistake. Well, I was half tempted to do it anyway, but it really was a mistake at the moment I posted it. Let’s see what happens now!
jordison:
08/28/2010 at 3:28 am
Maybe I’m just too old, but I have no patience at all with the lack of common courtesy exhibited these days.
To the point: I’m just sick and tired of all the extraneous crowd noise while Allison is singing – especially during Scars and No One Else. I don’t care if these people didn’t come to see Allison. I tried to listen to Scars tonight (Richmond) and the idle chatter was so loud and distracting that it made it impossible to appreciate the performance. People don’t act this way at the movies, and certainly not at “legitimate” theatre. I don’t understand why it’s considered acceptable at these concerts.
I just think it’s downright rude and disrespectful. And I would say this no matter who was the opening act.
Oh I have almost done this before too. Next time it happens just edit your post real quickly. lol.
I have nothing but BRAVO to say to this!
I couldn’t agree more. I have not been to a lot of concerts so maybe I am just too ignorant on this subject, but I think in these smaller settings it is even more important to be quiet (or close to it.) I just don’t get the idea of having a long conversation when someone is trying to perform. If you must talk for pete’s sake wait until there is a loud, upbeat song don’t do it in the middle of a nice, quiet acoustic song.
I thought about doing that, but then I decided to just leave it. I thought the few responses were pretty reasonable.
Tweet from Aaron Spears:
Sounds like the crowd was exceptionally responsive to Alli tonight. It also sounds like security has been really aggressive about shutting down the video recordings. Considering the lively crowd, and that Aaron Spears is guest drumming tonight, I’ll be really pissed if we can’t get some decent videos from tonight.
That is awesome that Aaron was there. The band from the tour last year seemed to especially love Allison. I saw one tweet from the girl who gave us the set from Staten Island; she got a few videos (NOE and Scars at least according to twitter.) She takes a few days to upload usually though.
I just wish she would have worn some better tights. lol. I think it may be time to retire these ones Allison:
http://s958.photobucket.com/albums/ae70/IdolNCpics/Adam%20Raleigh%20082810/?action=view¤t=IMG_1723.jpg
This looks terrible. lol.
jordison here is a better No One Else from last night if you are interested.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbXarA9YHFM&feature=player_embedded
Just doing some quick twitter stalking this morning. hehe.
Aww:
Only took about 3 months. Haha. This person also said they got 6 videos of last night so those should hopefully come soon!
Well Lauren, I see you wandered over to the Emmy thread also. So we agree on Allison and The Big Bang Theory. I’m happy for Jim Parsons, but I feel like the chemistry between all the cast members is what makes the show so good. And the writing.
Still no sign of Jesha’s videos yet. I’m really curious, because comments seemed to range from Alli was awesome and the crowd went crazy to the band sucked, Allison seemed tired (as well as Adam), and, of course, the ever present diction critics.
I’m really not a fashion critic, but I have to agree on the tights.
It always seems this way doesn’t it? I don’t know what to believe. One says she sounds the best she ever has and the other says she sounds tired. How do you think her voice has been sounding overall these days? I haven’t watched too many videos. I was reading one review from a show this week and they mentioned how she wouldn’t dare to hit the high notes in Heartbreaker. I wonder if she is sad that the tour is almost over or is anxious for it to be done so she can go home.
Hehe. I saw you posted so I thought I would leave one too. I recorded the show so I could fast-forward through most of it. Don’t you love how they finally let the west coast watch it live with the east. Works out great for us too because we can be done watching it by 8.
I was shocked that Jim won. The only award of the night that went the way I wanted it to (or at least in the categories I cared about.)I would love for the whole cast to be nominated and definitely agree that they are all important. It just seems impossible for certain shows/actors to be nominated. I also get annoyed when the same people always win. I was disappointed that Mad Men won again.
In the past I’ve found with the Emmys that if there’s one show I’ve never heard of in a category, it will almost always win. This was the case tonight with Breaking Bad. I admit I’ve yet to watch Mad Men. Don’t really care to watch it either.
I was just happy that Jim Parsons won, and Archie Punjabi, and especially Claire Danes. It’s nice to see that movies like Temple Grandin can still be made.
I believe Allison will have done around 75 concerts by the time this tour is over. I haven’t been to a lot of concerts lately, but when I have gone to ones which involved a lot of performances over a short period of time it seemed noticeable that the singers would be very conservative in reaching for high notes. My wife and I once went to a Willie Nelson concert where he practically talked through all of his songs. When the performer has more time in between concerts I’m sure they can feel more free to let loose.
Operas will alternate cast members for principal roles so they don’t ruin their voices. Phantom of the Opera always has 2 Christines on the weekly schedule, because it’s just too much for one soprano to hit those high notes 8 performances a week.
So, I’m actually glad that Allison is backing off the high notes. She seems to be making up for it with the intensity of her performances. And that was what I meant the other day when I said she was getting fiercer. I also don’t mind that she’s put some attitude into FIBOU, which to me is otherwise a dull song (i.e., the album version). I think PRMari agrees with that.
I would rather Allison win over the audience with her passion and back down a little on the voice, then ruin her voice trying to hit the high notes. When she does some spot dates in the future she can be more aggressive again with the glory notes.
BTW, my wife still says that Allison doesn’t have good vocal technique, and is worried she will develop nodes.
BTW, how many names does PRMari have?
That is so true!
I agree with you completely that it is best for her to not do too many high notes. It seems even more necessary when there are a lot of people who are not paying attention anyways. Save that for a better audience. I like fierce, but the only thing I dont like is when she starts to yell the lines rather than sing them. I have heard this in Heartbreaker a lot.
Let’s hope these are local right :)
Umm at least 3. lol.
I think at this point she’s making a statement and it starts with “F”!
Oh my god, I couldn’t finish watching that Scars in Richmond. I can’t believe all the talking! I think its just Adam’s fans. At the concert the other night, Heart had a very young female singer/songwriter open for them. Her music was not at all what the crowd came to hear, but everyone was respectful.
I’m still obsessing about how good Heart was. You guys should go see them – they’re in LA in mid September. Was looking for videos today but there aren’t too many. (I saw the ones you found Lauren. The audio doesn’t do them justice.) They were very strict about no cameras/video at my show. Anyway, I found these…
Hilarious story about the first time they saw Led Zeppelin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VH6k9OcjEk&NR=1
Partial acoustic Barracuda
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BMN_deolqA&feature=related
Intro to the concert… loved this… mega drums…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFD1IVdNZR8&feature=related
Review of the Denver show: http://blogs.denverpost.com/reverb/2010/08/28/live-review-heart-the-paramount-theatre/
Excerpt:
Haha! I heard that guy!
Excerpt:
I definitely want more rock! You know, even the music before the show was great. A fews songs before they came out they played Pink Floyd’s Another Brick in the Wall and cranked up the bass. “We don’t need no education… boom-da-boom-boom-boom… We don’t need no thought control…” It was so cool. I just smiled and thought to myself… this is gonna be so good!! And it was!
Well the videos were finally posted, but I don’t have much time to watch them. I am bad like that. If too much time passes after a show I lose interest. lol. Unless something happens that everyone is going crazy for.
I watched a few seconds of this and those tights are just too distracting. Haha!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU6HGFiTTtc&feature=channel
Haha! That sounds about right.
Somebody needs to start doing it!
ETA: I read in someone’s review on the blog about Katie Stevens rocking out at the idol tour. They said they talked to her after the show and she was going to do a rock album. I just busted out with laughter! This was hysterical to me.
I am happy you had such a great time alli lurker :) If I have time I will look about any possible dates around me (I always find the beginning of the semester to be especially overwhelming.)
Everyone got their popcorn for this battle with Crystal and Jive? Hehe. Shall be interesting.
I’d say the Raleigh videos are definitely worth watching. That’s a different Allison performing. Check out Still Breathing and Heartbreaker and the beginning of DWTP when she’s talking about her album.
Argh… I hate the 720p vids… they keep screwing up my computer! I haven’t even watched all of them.
Adam is tweeting a lot tonight.Lol.
This led me to think huh? I thought he was just talking about borrowing from others/no one is copying.
Then I read this from a tweeter
Haha!
Interesting alli lurker. What do you mean by this?
I have problems with those too. I don’t know what it is. Maybe they are bigger files?
Do you think she was buzzed? Her eyes looked a little different from normal. She seemed a bit more hyper – I don’t know. Could also be a combination of things – fatigue, heat..?
The biggest change I noticed was the impact of Aaron Spears. I found his drumming was really distracting, because it was different in places where I was used to hearing certain things. Also, he was really pushing in some places – he took the band through Heartbreaker way faster than normal. Also, at times the drums sounded like a jackhammer, and he used cymbals a little more than to my taste.
I think the band in general was a bit up tight, or hyper, because of a strange drummer. I think Aaron only had that afternoon to learn the entire set, and it could have put stress on everybody.
As far as the 720p, I always select the 360p option when given the choice. Otherwise, I also get all jammed up trying to get through a video.
Haha! I didn’t want to be so blunt about it, but yeah, that’s what I was thinking. Her eyes look different, her hair looks a bit more disheveled and her conversation w/ the audience before DWTP (the laugh and when she says “Don’t Waste. The Pretty.” (Not that I’m an expert or anything, lol!) I thought it might have something to do with Aaron’s visit. But who knows… maybe she just stayed up too late the night before.
Absolutely loved the Scars from this show. The Jesha one.
Oh geez. I was wondering what you meant alli lurker. Haha! I was listening for something special, but didn’t hear anything. I really hope it is just because she was tired. I’m not to fond of the idea of getting buzzed before a show when you are underage. Can you imagine the criticism she would get from that? Lol.
It seems like we either get no videos or a bunch from the same show. I really like the dress that she wore last night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yJE6N0j7_w
I am watching 19 kids and counting on TLC. These people are nuts! Just the thought of one child terrifies me! The grandma spends 25 hours a week helping them keep up with the laundry. Wow.
ETA: This is a good picture
http://twitpic.com/2k4ypm
Boy I am so glad that Selena Gomez is outselling Allison by so much *eye roll*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyEccgZ-_hk
I don’t know who is worse on this song Taylor Swift or Selena. Lol.
Ugh this makes me even more annoyed (same show)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZLQ5gIXnp8&feature=related
How about we cheer for someone who can actually sing!
End of morning rant (before I go to school so I am probably just cranky. Haha!)
Why do you torture yourself (and us!) with this? She’s Disney, she’s gonna sell.
Allison gets to be the Anti-Disney/Selena/Miley/Taylor. (I hope so anyway!) I like that better. Its way more fun.
Oops sorry :) I will only talk about happy things. I was just wondering if there were videos from last night and when doing a search for Indiapolis these came up.
nvm
Lauren – I didn’t do a very good job with my post… I meant to say… Why do you torture yourself by watching that horrible Selena Gomez video? LOL.
Heart is on Jimmy Fallon tomorrow night. Set your DVR!
I think their album came out today. Actually, I wasn’t very impressed with the new stuff… it was kind of mellow, except for one called “WTF” (great name!) that was pretty rockin’. I hope Jimmy has them do an older song like Barracuda, too. He can get pretty excited about the older bands.
I watched the final group performance of the S9 top ten to see the last concert shenanigans, but there wasn’t any! Disappointed again! Its weird to watch Lee in the group. He always looks uncomfortable.
The girls made a ‘chins’ vid that makes fun of the guys. Its pretty funny. Very creative, I think…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIdzw9ODuaU&feature=player_embedded
That’s a bummer. I don’t think of mellow when it comes to Heart. That is a good song title though. Lol. I wonder if it is hard when you are so well known for certain songs to make new material that will live up to the old songs.
I watched the group performance when they were on Good Morning America and Lee looked miserable. Lol. I guess I shouldn’t even bother to look at the video. Last years was fun and emotional. Apparently Allison was there last night. I wish she would have tweeted a picture of it (but then again this is Allison we are talking about. Haha!)
Ok that was creative, but weird!
Have you seen all of their late night sandwich videos?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4lUd3XJnog
I thought this was fun. Just don’t watch these when you are hungry. Lol.
I was on the blog yesterday and saw the side bar with the adds for the Today show and that they interviewed Heart. I thought of you alli lurker.
Here is the interview (pretty short.) They mention how talented Taylor Swift is. Lol. They both look fantastic! (It is hard to see them really well in the concert videos.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI2ckleuaDk
Oh geez, don’t even get me started… the girl seriously sucks at twitter, and I think she’s getting worse. She might as well just shut it down. It seems like she tweets maybe once a week now, and its usually a response to someone else’s tweet. Lame.
(Sorry, cranky.)
Just think of how bad it is going to be post tour. Lol. We wont hear from her for a month or two. We will have to talk about other things here until some crumb comes our way.
Oh and please complain more often. I like to think of this as a place to vent. It is better to do it here than in our normal lives. Haha!
Thanks for sharing! They do look pretty good, don’t they? Too bad they got stuck with Kathie Lee, LOL! Boy, Nancy was doing all the talking… usually its Ann. Those old videos they were showing were hilarious. Big hair!
Okay….
It’s true.. and even when she does tweet we won’t want to talk about it because it’ll be about her most recent bathroom experience. Hahahaha.
Alright… off to bed for me.
I was going to say something about that, but thought I would hold back in case someone likes her. She comes across as really snooty to me. I can’t stand her. Kelly Ripa is much better!
Oh brother! We wont here from her for weeks on end and then she will tweet about some poo emergency. I can hardly wait for that.
ETA: Jewel sang this song at the Emmys the other night for the in memoriam. I thought it was a really beautiful song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KezgLBLWtus&feature=related
Well, they mention how talented Pink and Lady Gaga are, and then threw in Taylor Swift as a role model. Not quite sure if the talented part was also meant to include Taylor.
In all honesty, I really like much about Taylor Swift, other than her singing. Watched part of the country music show last night, and TS signed autographs for 14.5 hours at a M&G, nonstop, until every last fan was greeted. She seems to be intelligent, kind, charitable – just can’t carry a tune. In contrast, Lea Michelle seems to be turning into a real “diva.”
Just wondering – who or what is “BB”? I searched and can’t find it in any computer slang lists. If it stands for “baby”, then I want to puke.
Regarding Allison’s tweeting habits:
I’ve registered for Twitter, but have yet to figure out how to use it. I read tweets through Google. I don’t have a Facebook or MySpace account. I don’t text – just do email.
So, I won’t condemn anyone who doesn’t or chooses not to participate in all of this social networking, which seems to take on new dimensions every few months. In fact, I think Twitter has more negatives than positives to it.
Still, I agree that if someone does choose to tweet, it might be nice to avoid giving the impression of being obsessed about pooping, farting, barfing, etc.
In past history, Allison tended to tweet more when she was idle. When she’s in rehearsal or on the road I think she may just be overwhelmed and forget about it. She is who she is.
My guess is that Janis Joplin would have been lousy at tweeting also.
Yep, I’m pretty sure it means baby… so start puking! lol. Were you reading the concert thread or something?
Try urbandictionary.com… I think its helpful.
You are right. I like her too. I really enjoy a lot of the songs off her last album. She is better than Miley any day of the week. I also think she has a good head on her shoulders. She is very well spoken in her interviews and seems to be business savvy too. I was reading her interview with EW and she talked about how her latest singled leaked while she was on a plane.
http://music-mix.ew.com/2010/08/27/taylor-swift-speak-now-new-album/
Get your bucket ready! Lol. I am pretty sure it means “baby.”
I made a twitter account too, but still don’t understand how to add a reply to a re-tweet. I just made one for the occasional response I might want to give to something. For example, there was someone who wanted questions to ask Allison for an interview they were doing. Other than that I don’t use it. I also don’t have a myspace or facebook. I am at the right age demographic for this stuff, but just don’t really care. Lol.
I don’t condemn anyone for not using them either. I just think that as a musician with fans it might be best to interact with the fans on a somewhat regular basis. I think myspace or facebook may require more effort, but tweeting a quick picture of you at the idol concert doesn’t take that long. With the 140 character limit it takes seconds to send a quick message to the fans. I still love her though!
Oops you beat me to it alli lurker! I guess he will need that bucket though since you told him to start puking. Haha!
Forgot to add that I definitely agree with this. Just watching her at the emmy awards was annoying (I also didn’t get all of the raving about how great she looked. Her hair looked like a mess to me.)
Hmm… I think we’ve been down this road before…
Do you remember those vids they made at the Nokia and put on her website? There’s one from July 27 called “Allison Shouts Out Her Fans on Twitter!” She says “She seriously loves talking to you guys through here. Its definitely an easy way for me to contact you guys and tell you what’s going on on tour, the craziness that’s happening on the bus.” And then she encourages people to follow her. I don’t know… maybe someone’s holding a gun to her head off camera to make her say it, LOL!, but that’s what she said… “she seriously loves it”, and “its easy”.
Maybe she had a change of heart, but I expected a little more.
(Lauren said I should complain more, so there you go!)
ETA: Oh, and another thing… what happened to all those questions they asked everyone to submit to her website?
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I subscribe to this theory.
Exactly!
LOL! Funny!
Bleeeechhhhhh………
Ah, much better now. Hope BB gets enough rest now – poor BB.
Oh, oh, here it comes again ……Bleeeechhhhhh……
Yay, new page!
Sorry to keep going on about this, but people love Allison’s spirit… sharing it via twitter would be such a good thing. That’s all I’m sayin’.
Okay, avoiding other things I should be doing… talk to you later.
Here we all are again!
You remembered all of that? Lol. No complaints from me about your complaining. I find that it always makes me feel better (to complain.) Haha!
How high do you think the post count will go before MJ notices?
I love complaining.
Haha! It does seem this way at times doesn’t it.
I read about interviews and things like this and then never see the actual results. Who knows. I want my question answered!
No, I had to go look at it!
I think she probably knows we’re here. There’s a feed for everything that comes in. She probably looks at it.
I’m going to have to drop off soon – gotta run errands.
BTW, we’ll be going away from home to a wedding this weekend, and will probably not be reading or posting much between Saturday and Monday.
I often worry if she has some sort of ability on her end of the blog to see recent incoming comments. Scary if she does!
You’re cracking me up!
I really do have to go and do other things now. Later.
Uh oh! Ummm… I hope we haven’t broken any rules. It is easy to feel more free to talk way down here so I might not be following the rules as closely.
Have a great weekend! (if we don’t here from you before you leave)
Well I guess if guys you are going to do other things I probably should too. Haha. Bye!
So… watching the Heart TV performance was like watching an Allison TV performance… I liked it better the second time I saw it. I’d like to see the lyrics to that song.
I enjoyed Rachel Maddow. I never watch her show, but she’s on Jimmy a lot and they’re always fun together. They usually mix cocktails, lol. I liked the New Orleans morning cocktail… yes! only in New Orleans…
Hey alli lurker! I watched it on the internet and I liked it, but I think I liked Alli’s performance better (at least copmared to this specific performance.) We need to show this video to all of the people who complain about Allison’s diction. Lol. It’s a rock thing ;)
http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/blogs/2010/09/web-exclusive-heart-performs-barracuda/
For old times sake: best version I could find.
http://www.rickey.org/?p=19834
Loved Conan’s reaction. Haha! I think he was impressed.
Wrong song. Woops! I just realized I linked to their Barracuda performance and it says they only did this for the website.
I kept rying to get a good look at Ann’s boots, but the camera man wasn’t cooperating. Lol. I liked her necklace. I couldn’t decide if I liked the people being behind them during the performance. Also, they need more room up there. All of those guitar players looked cramped. Anything else…no I think that’s it!
This is all I could find alli lurker
Not too sure about this performance. It seemed like there was some shouting to me. I guess tv performances must be hard for a lot of artists. Maybe they can’t hear themselves very well?
I agree, of the two videos you posted, I enjoyed Allison’s better. Thanks for digging up the Conan performance, btw, I was looking for it the other day and didn’t see it on youtube. Great energy, but man, crazy spazz hands! LOL! One thing about the live Heart show is that they have great graphics up on a screen behind them, especially during Barracuda, plus all kinds of flashing lights. The whole thing is really entertaining. They didn’t have that on Jimmy Fallon.
Yeah, that’s how she did it live, too. Like I said, I’m not too impressed with the new stuff. Thanks for digging up the lyrics.
I doubt that I’ll be posting anything else this weekend. I like to stay away from the computer on the weekends if I can. Hope you have a great holiday!
Hope you guys are having a good weekend! It is so hot here. I am going to the beach tomorrow so hopefully it will be better. I know that you probably wont see this until next week, but I wanted to post this now so I didn’t forget.
Allison isn’t listed on JIVES website. I wonder what this means?
http://www.jiverecords.com/artists
I guess we will find out post tour if something is going to happen. I just hope that if something does lead to her being dropped that she keeps going. How about Universal since they will now be taking all of the idols? Something to think about next week.
I know I am still talking to myself (lol,) but I just got on and wanted to say something quickly. I saw the line at the top of the headlines thread about what I posted yesterday. If you guys want to read all of the discussion here is the thread, but I don’t know if I can handle all of the negativity that is bound to be there.
http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-090510.htm/comment-page-1#comments
This makes me :( I guess your theory of avoiding the computer on the weekends is quit a good one alli lukrer.
I am little confused about why Allison would be dropped when looking at the roster there are a bunch of people I have never heard of (not that I am some big music aficionado.)
Ok it’s like trying not to look at a car crash (maybe bad analogy) but I read the first page of comments and nearly every post was about Allison. Must be a record! Not sure if I should go to page 2… Haha!
I have been reading, ok lurking (haha!) on other boards and have heard talk about Allison seeming down or upset in the last week or so. This would certainly explain why. If it is true it sucks that she has to keep doing the tour for the next few weeks. Now it will be awkward after all of the speculation. I am sure some fans will ask her. What will she say? Oh my. Weekend officially ruined. Should have known it would be bad when I finally go to the beach and it was freezing! I sat wrapped in towels all day. Lol.
ETA:*tears* I hate those bastards at JIVE for doing this to Allison before the tour is done. They couldn’t wait 3 weeks. Ugh.
I wonder if this is why she was so emotional during this performance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jdADuCJtv4
tonight:
Sorry for the incessant posting, but I have to let it out somewhere. Lol.
Apparently she is sick too :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMSdHufM5QA
Where is the icecream when you need it? Lol.
ETA: Back to my earlier comment about going to Universal. My hope is that maybe she will still be managed by 19. Now that 19 works with Universal to sign the idols maybe they will work to try and get Allison a deal over there. That would be great! They could use this as an opportunity to show how they could do a better job with her!
OK, so I go away for a couple of days, enjoyed a beautiful wedding last night, in spite of the fact that it was 104 degrees in the Valley over the weekend, and check in to see if there is any news.
Shouldn’t have done that. I’ve never read so many Allison posts in one thread. Where were these people during the good times?
I’m hoping that maybe the political stuff between 19, Fuller, the other company (can’t remember the name) and the 19 realignment with record labels might have had something to do with this. Orianthi is with Geffen – maybe they can get together under one label and do something to benefit both of them.
Still, I think Allison has too much talent, and should have enough connections in the business right now, so that she should be able to keep on working. This could actually turn out to be a good thing for her.
Anyway, I’m overwhelmed with all the posts today and just can’t bring myself to read all of them. Maybe later.
Glad you had a good day yesterday. This weather has been hot!
No kidding! Like I said I read 1 page in the headlines thread and stopped. I knew it would upset me. There were some people who I know don’t like Allison and I was not in the mood to read their opinions.
That would be ideal. The only thing that really worries me is that Allison seems to be so upset lately (of course this could be due to a number of reasons.) This doesn’t mean that she won’t get a new record deal, but there might not be anything good happening anytime soon.
I agree that it could turn out the best for her in the sense that JIVE didn’t ever seem to be the right fit. They are a label that seems more geared to pop acts. While Allison may not be ready to go hard rock they still didn’t even appear to really aim her towards much pop-rock either. I hope this doesn’t crush her confidence and make her feel like giving up music as a profession. I would be really saddened if I never heard from her (or went a really long time without hearing from her.)
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj45/mindchnger/Peoria-IL-090510/IMG_0591.jpg
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj45/mindchnger/Peoria-IL-090510/IMG_0590.jpg
Last Night. Aww.
http://musicians.about.com/od/companyprofiles/p/Universal.htm
Ok 19 you better get busy!
Assuming all of this is true, I’m feeling really bad for Allison today. This has to be a really painful thing to go through. Big hugs for her. I’ve been watching some of the videos from Peoria and I’m so impressed that she could hold it together as well as she did for that show.
I’ve read most of the comments from the 9/5 thread. I think most say the same thing… mature voice, immature package. So she’s immature – she can’t change who she is. I was immature at 18, too (even though I didn’t think I was!) I actually did some pretty stupid things at 18. One of them ended with me and a friend having to apologize to my entire high school over the intercom. That was pretty humbling! I think I matured quite a bit after that experience, lol. I think Allison’s experience will probably have a similar effect on her.
I loved mj’s comment on that thread (made me misty):
I think Allison is hugely talented and impressively persistent. I think she’ll get herself another shot.
OMG alli lurker way to peak my interests today! Lol.
I’m even more impressed if she has known about this for a few weeks (speculation that she was showing sadness around 8/24 at Staten Island.) On top of this she is sick too.
Thank you so much for bringing that over. I didn’t read the whole thread. This was so well put and explains exactly how I feel and couldn’t put into words myself. Thank you MJ :)
Just felt like listening to this today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF3I_8MvxLg
I think Allison really needs someone to watch over her now. She needs to know that, imperfections or not, she has fans who will stick with her.
BTW – Way to pop the balloon on this moment, Simon.
I hope she knows this too. I don’t want her to ignore the fans forever (been off twitter for over a week. Not that she shouldn’t take some time, just that she shouldn’t be gone too long.)
At the end of this Scars video (about 2:06) she talks with a fan at the buses. She talked about losing weight and she also mentioned that she is really tired. Of course there is a little cursing in their too. Haha. Just looking at her makes me sad. Lol. I just want to give her a hug.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29TmO_dUNjQ&feature=player_embedded
That performance was a great one jordison. How anyone can see that and not realize how much talent Allison has is beyond me.
On a different note…
WoW! (from tour thread)
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f293/merrynpippin/glamnation%20lambert2010/cccopy1.jpg
New Outfit Tonight! (kind of interesting/different)
http://plixi.com/p/43857620
http://plixi.com/p/43857752
http://twitpic.com/2ma1ei
She is not taking anymore BS! Lol.
Slezak tweet, lol:
Hey alli lutker!
From Mj:
Reading what Mj wrote makes me feel a bit better. I have more hope that they (19) will try to sign her with Universal. Why not? They are signing idols from season 11, but that will not be happening until May. This way they take Allison now and can begin working with her. They can show how they know how to manage Allison while JIVE couldn’t. At least this is my theory to make myself feel better. Haha!
Great point alli lurker (stole this from the other thread.Lol) I was thinking about this a while ago. My thought was that I would hate for her to waste her time with them if they didn’t have any real intentions of working really hard with her. So they make a second album and do a terrible job managing her like with the first one? This would have been a waste of her time (which is seems in the entertainment industry can be very imnportant.)
Hi Lauren!
It looks like we may be moving to a new thread when it reaches “basement status’, lol.
Just look at Jordin and Archie… it never seems like much is going on with them, but then again, they seem way more ‘Jive’ than Allison. I really am glad she’s leaving – it was a weird place, imo.
I hope she can keep doing music that might not be as high profile until she really ‘finds herself’ musically. I think she should just keep plugging away.
Hehe. You don’t want this one to go on forever.
Exactly! Archie is supposed to have a new album out NEXT month. I mean aren’t you supposed to have a single doing fairly well on the radio to help with the release of your album? Also, I listened to that Elevator song and thought it was really bad. This could be a blessing in disguise.
I hope so too. I don’t understand all of the comments about taking a few years off. She should keep making music even if it is just doing youtube videos or releasing stuff on myspace. Why let yourself get rusty waiting to “mature.” Besides, we need something to talk about. Haha!
Ok getting ready to go to class. Hopefully you both have a good day!
Great idea. I would love to see (hear) her try some different things like blues/rock and soul. Why not? A lot of rock singers were influenced by this music – Led Zeppelin and The Rolling Stones to name two. I think Janis was mainly a blues singer, too.
jordison! An F bomb without an *? My eyes!! Hahaha.
I think the mj thread started out pretty good, but now its getting ridiculous. Hopefully Allison knows she has strong support from loyal fans, and all the rest of it should be taken with a grain of salt (or not taken at all!)
I think you should go over there and say something nice and wise… being an ‘elder’ and all… :)
Right now I just want to tell some of those people to *uck (is that better?) off.
Probably by the time I calm down the thread will be dead, and it’ll be just us talking to ourselves again. I do feel that being one of the more vocal Allison supporters I should say something over there so people don’t think I’ve jumped ship. Also, has PRMari posted to that thread yet?
LOL! I think its better to put the * where the ‘u’ is, but whatever!
I think PRM may have abandoned this blog after her last tangle with the glamberts. I saw her battling on the EW thread, though!
Right, that’s what I was thinking. I usually feel guilty when I don’t say anything.
I just posted a “nice” post over there.
I saw that… I added a silly one just after it…
I won!!! And its NOT a joke!!! LOL!
Uh oh, I’m gonna get in trouble over there! Who the f*ck is jrain?
Lauren – I bet you wish you would have followed through on your wish to go to the show in Houston (tonight). I bet Allison gets lots of love.
Is there seriously no videos from Dallas? Unbelievable.
Wow, that was bold. Better run for cover! :)
I feel like I have stepped into a sh**storm! I don’t know where to look or what to do. Lol. I want to battle, but I am so confused as to where to start. I am scared to even enter the thread. UGH!
Damn! I wish I could have gone. Stupid money and school. Lol.
Ok now I am all riled up. I must calm myself down.
Allison:
Ok back to being emotional and sad. Sad,angry,sad,angry,annoyed, bitter. What a cycle!
I know what you mean. I was gone most of the afternoon, and when I got back I just started getting so angry and frustrated that I just shut down. There were just too many stupid comments to quote, so I let it go for a while. The problem is that if you wait too long nobody will read your comments, except us. I finally jumped in and posted a little, just mainly to let them know I was still around. At this point I don’t expect to change anybody’s mind.
Warning: if you read the whole thread (forget the moron EW comments) don’t expect to get much schoolwork done tonight. :)
Ok started to read the thread and I am jost scrolling by most everything now. You hit the nail on the head jorison: F*** all of these people (is that the right way to write it alli lurker ;)
So annoying that people want to come in and dump on Allison when she is already having a hard time.
Awww… that didn’t make me sad… she sounds good! I’m so happy she finally said something!
I gotta go until later tonight….
Haha! Pretty much. I am so mad right now. I agree that there is no point to bother to respond since there are just too many posts. I am trying to calm myself. I know I shouldnt let negative comments get to me, but it is hard to take when there are SO many.
Oh I am happy that she said something. I guess it just makes me imagine her reading all of this sh!t and it makes me sad. God people are brutal. I mean I don’t like Danny and am not really a fan of Adam, but if something happened with them I wouldn’t waste my time picking them apart.
Ok going to try to calm myself and be back later. I am so glad that you guys are here. It makes me feel better to know that I am not the only one that is a big Allison fan (since apparently we are the only ones. Lol)
Okay, can I just say that this is a huge pet peeve of mine. I HATE when anyone says anything like this! I always imagine its a tween saying it, too.
BTW – I think I read that entire thread, and I don’t think it was all that bad. I thought a lot of people were supportive. And I’m always happy when a lot of people comment. She’s getting more comments than Crystal ever gets. (Crystal was my second favorite of Season 9 after…)
I’m going to sleep now. Just so ya know – I’ll be away from the computer tomorrow until later in the evening.
You definitely have thicker skin than me. Lol. It just felt like a bunch of tearing Allison to shreds to me. It seems that people on Idol are held to different standards.
*Too immature- really because Beiber,Miley Cyrus, Keesha, etc. are so mature.
*No vocal range- wow and Katy Perry, Selena Gomez, others are just knocking it out of the park vocally.
A host of other things that luckily I have somewhat forgotten. Haha!
Oh and apparently that a**hole Perez Hilton tweeted to Adam and Allison about her being dropped. Why do some people relish in other people’s pain? So pathetic.
Definitely annoying, also when people talk about how she road their coattails. I also cringe whenever someone mentions her doing a performance with Adam. I know it will inevitably bring along a slew of comments about how she needs to do this on her own. Blah, blah, blah.
It sure seems that she can elicit comments. I am surprised though that there was so much negativity. I will be curious what happens with season 9 people. I would be very worried if I were Crystal. Jive is awful (as we can see. Lol.)
I wonder if that stingray poster is another PRM alias? They are OTT about getting Allison in the Latin market.
Really going to sleep now!
Haha! I don’t think so. She has given up here.
I saw a note (I think in the most recent headlines) about Crystal being a special guest of Melissa Etheridge at an event. I’m very jealous. I wish Allison had some celeb in her corner.
Really, really going to sleep now, lol!
That would be nice. I feel like Allison has bad luck or something. I don’t get it.
Oh yeah. She is really connecting to that one these days. I love the Peoria one especially @2:51
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9TO1zD9QYA
Does anyone else get annoyed with the whole “she should take a few years off… go to college…etc?” If she wanted to go to school that would be great, but I don’t think she wants to. She should try to get a new record deal post tour. Why waste time? What exactly should she wait for? Some special date to come. She needs to keep herself out there in some form, not disappear off the face of the earth.
Talk to you all tomorrow!
This brought tears to my eyes. Aww.
From the alliholics:
I really hope she got these and maybe they lifted her spirits a bit.
Ok now I am really going to bed. Lol.
Is it my imagination, or was Allison really, really on fire last night in Houston? There seemed to be extra emphasis on the “I’m OK” and “In Your Face” in this Holiday. Loved the crowd reaction.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZVoqfzuKkU&feature=player_embedded
Ok just perusing the idol concert thread and found this
Yep. I think this may be best that Allison gets out while she can. This label sucks! She needs to find a label that will actually appreciate her. I feel like Jive never really did. I also wonder what kind of dirt Allison has on how they managed things. I have a feeling they made a lot of decisions she was not happy with. It doesn’t seem quite as depressing as it did yesterday. Lol.
Even a small label would be great because they would probably be thrilled to have a talent like Allison. They would pay more attention to her and she does have some fans (twitter followers at 70,000 which is not always equal to sales, but could certainly be a good start for a small label.)
Oh yeah! I loved the ending of this one. We know Allison always pours emotions into her performances, but I have a feeling she is using this (singing) as a release more now than ever. Good for her!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJNMKiptCs0
@2:35 Hmmm… this is funny yet not quite where I want to hear the cursing. Lol. How about in Holiday instead. Man that was abrupt!
Not getting it. What happened?
Oops! Sorry it might have helped if I linked to the right video. Lol.
Here is the one I was talking about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJNMKiptCs0
I am so bummed that I have class tonight. I want to watch the NFL season opener. I just saw Taylor Swift on the kickoff. I could hardly hear her and she kept flipping her hair all over the place. All I could think of was that if they really wanted to have a good kick-off they should have had Allison up there doing Holiday. That would have been a starter!
Yeah and with a topic as big as this one there could be a greater chance of people coming in much later.
So weird how we all show up sometimes at such similar times.
I’ve also listened to the album again recently. As much as I don’t like the song all that much, as it really doesn’t show off Allison’s vocal talents, I’ve been wondering if maybe Robot Love might not have been a good candidate as a single. It has a catchy beat, is age appropriate, and doesn’t have any possible negative connotations such as with Beat Me Up. (although I’ve yet to hear any controversy over the lyrics of that song). I know it’s pop, not rock, but if it was a commercial success it might have kept Allison with Jive (a little longer?).
Speaking of Kara, maybe Allison should look her up, since they both might be in a similar state of mind right now, and could possibly come up with some good songs together. Then again, Kara is hardly rock.
Have you guys listened to anything from Liz’s band, Banner Hill? Actually some of it is pretty good. I believe Val will be drumming for them now. I wonder if Allison or the Banner Hill folks would be interested in some kind of collaboration?
I also wonder if there was any significance to the Aaron Spears visit, or was it only a social call? Could something possibly be in the works?
Do you think that Gerry Mattei’s departure from the band related to the Jive decision not to renew Allison?
Miley Cyrus said that Allison was her very favorite Idol. Jamie Foxx raved about her talent. Slash loved her. Is there any chance that one of these folks might step forward and help her keep her career going?
That’s all I can think of for now.
Sounds like new stuff to me (or at least from you.) I don’t mind analyzing things endlessly. Lol.
Let’s see where to begin…
I still think JLY is one of the most radio friendly songs. Maybe even the most. I see what you mean about D. It does sound too old. As well as Trouble Is. While I love her voice on it I have kind of always felt that it sounded old. I think part of it may be the production of it. I was actually listening to Beat Me Up in the car the other day and it really is a catchy song. I think that one JLY, Holiday, YDKM and Pieces are the best. I like Still Breathing, but it is generic. No One Else is too long for me. Agree on DWTP. I do like that it seems to be the one song with the wailing at the end, but other than that it just doesn’t fit with Allison. We need more songs like Holiday in the future. It just has the right energy for her. Oh forgot Robot Love. This song to me is better than FIBOU and DWTP. It may not show much of Allison’s ability, but I think the theme of the song is one that she sells better. It fits her attitude. Speaking of FIBOU I despise this song more than ever because I feel like it put her in the hole that she is currently in. It was so poppy that many people completely wrote off the rest of the album and never even bothered. I think Allison had more momentum coming off the show than the people this year (or at least Crystal) and it was ruined when this song was chosen. It sounds like a childish song and like you said anyone could sing it. I really wish the label would have quickly chosen a different song like Adam’s did. Then they wouldn’t have wasted all of their promo money and tv spots on this song.
Not only are we on at the same time, but we’re coming up with the same ideas simultaneously (i.e., Kara, Robot Love)
Completely agree. I think I mentioned this a few pages back in the thread that Robot Love would have been much better than FIBOU. As you said it is not rock and doesn’t show off her vocal abilities very well, but there is something about the song that fits Allison. It has the right attitude for her age maybe. Also, the beat is fun and one that aligns with radio today. I also think a lot of people can relate to this song.
Haha! Great minds think alike!
They could write some angry songs right about now (although Kara has less to be angry about since she has a bunch of other jobs. lol)
Interesting. I haven’t listened to anything. This could be somewhere to start. I just wonder though because Liz probably wants to be the lead singer right? Not sure how Allison could fit in. What about Dave? What is he doing? Does he have a band? Maybe Dave knows some musicians and he and Alli can team up to start a band. I know he sings, but I don’t think he would be unhappy doing more playing than singing. They seem to have a good relationship too.
As for Aaron I am pretty sure it was just a visit. I think he is touring with Usher. I think with Gerry it was strictly money. Also, isn’t her being on this tour more due to management (19) than Jive? That was my understanding. Which hopefully they still see the potential in her and will not drop her too.
Miley Cyrus would probably be too worried about being outshadowed by true talent. Lol. Jamie Foxx raved about Allison, but he was in love with Kris. Haha! Slash would be cool. Then again he probably forgot about AI the minute he was done doing it.
Probably all true.
I need to wrap up now and get some stuff done.
Later.
I just came back to this thread because it was the most current thread at the time and I wanted to say something. We’ve had lots of basement threads before this one, but we always moved on to the new thread once it began.
I thought that if we moved we might pick up a couple of people like Rub who we never wanted to direct to this thread (because of my concert post from MID JULY! LOL!)
Yeah, I thought about that.
My thought exactly! College is overrated.
I think if RL had been the first single, it would have gotten the same response as FIBOU. It may have been a good 2nd or 3rd single. I agree with Lauren that it is a theme that Allison can sell. Kids seem to like it, and its a blast live.
I thought Val already drummed for them?
I saw part of one song and was meh. I’d like to see Alli hook up with some hard core musicians – a really good band. Not that the current band is bad, but I think maybe she could do better.
Poor FIBOU, LOL! I think the beginning of the song and the ‘oh yeahs’ do make it sound childish, and I agree that people wrote her off immediately after it came out. But most of the song I like, and I think it has good energy – like her.
I like it live now, but those first TV performances were not good, imo. I definitely agree they should have quickly moved on. I wish YDKM would have been the first single, or at least the song they moved on to.
I thought Dave worked for Jive. Wasn’t he in some other girl’s band who got dropped by them? He’ll probably end up in Crystal’s band, lol.
Haha! Well let’s hope for a good news thread to pop up in the next month or so. Then we can move. We will only be at what… a thousand posts. Lol.
Seems like it these days. I was sitting in class the other day thinkging “I cant believe the money I am paying for this!” What a waste. If you could get a decent job these days without going I would just skip it. Haha.
I can definitely see it getting similar criticisms (not rock enough), but I feel like overall it would have had a better reception. At least it would have been more fitting for radio I think.
I know he did similar stuff or at least radio promo with Lesley Roy. I am not sure if he actually works for Jive or they just hire him when the need him for someone at a specific time. Speaking of Crystal that girl is making more connections by the minute. I do wonder when she will have an album out though with all of these performances she is doing. I am jealous Allison was stuck doing the tour so long last year.
Yeah I also think she needs more guys in the band. Not that I don’t like having the girls there too. She just seems to like to interact on stage and she has chemistry with the guys. I would like her to find some people that want to think about making a permanent band. That’s why I was wondering about Dave. I think it would be a good start with the 2 of them.
Yay! I have a twitter account just to tweet Allison. Lol. I want her to get lots of love so she is is encouraged not to leave us. I hope that she is starting to feel better and realizes that she has to keep going.
I wish I were in NOLA today… but I’m not… If I were I would have brunch at EAT in the french quarter http://www.eatnola.com/ Last time I was there they had a softshell crab eggs benedict that was to-die-for. Then I might go down to Jackson Square and take a walk by the river or maybe take the streetcar uptown to see the prettiest part of NOLA without ever having to get off the streetcar.
And I would definitely have to have beignets at Cafe DuMonde, also in the french quarter, by the river. Or maybe just have them at Cafe Beignet, 334 Royal Street. Love that place, too.
Just sayin’
Haha alli lurker! You trying to make us drool or what?!
I googled beignets and this was a site listed at the top
http://shop.cafedumonde.com/originals.html
Mmm… I LOVE sweets! I might even have a slight addiction to them. Lol. So this is torture.
I wish you were there too! The tour is winding down. I can’t believe it. Remember when we were worrying about her voice? She is almost done!
ETA: jeez the people from last season are performing all over the place. I don’t remember this happening last year. 3 threads in a row. Looking at Aaron and Crystal I wish Allison was from a small town (or at least not LA.) They certainly appreciate you. Just look at Kris in Arkansas.
Aww, I’m glad he likes it! (People usually love it or hate it.)
What to do after?
Its probably too late to take a streetcar, but he could take a cab up St. Charles Avenue to see all the beautiful old southern homes with the spanish moss hanging from the trees. I’d probably go as far as Tulane University & Audubon Park and turn around.
Eat more: Try Deanies, Mr. B’s Bistro or GW Fins (ranked by cost, cheapest to most expensive) all in the French Quarter
Drink: Have a couple of Hurricanes at Pat O’Briens and see if he can play guitar cross-eyed, lol.
Avoid Bourbon Street.
In case you guys thought the other thread was “safe”, guess again. Someone came in with a negative comment 2 days after the previous comment from roquemecan, which itself was a straggler posted after the thread left the first page.
Never fear, I posted a response. We have to make sure that thread never ends on a negative note.
I swear this girl has some serious enemies. I wonder if she knows who they are?
Thanks for posting there jordison!
I think its a double edged sword. She may have learned more there, but people don’t seem to care very much. Must be hard to stay positive. Good thing she’s got support.
ETA: I guess she’ll just have to tour more so that she can feel the love from her fans around the country!
Allison’s wearing a mask tonight… hilarious!
http://twitpic.com/2nwyuc
They sell masks all over the french quarter. People wear them at Mardi Gras.
It sounds like she only wore it for Holiday. I really hope there’s a vid!
Wow think they have been looking at Allison for inspiration? Haha!
http://www.popeater.com/2010/09/12/rihanna-eminem-performance/
(Katie Perry and Rhianna both have Allison’s hair colors.Lol)
Good work! I haven’t been checking.
I just don’t get it. I know some people don’t like her or enjoy her. That’s fine. I just can’t understand some of the hate she seems to inspire. Such negativity and it is often so precise (don’t like her hair/hand movements/stage presence/personality/diction etc.) not just general dislike. Oh well. Their loss.
I have a feeling this one will remain with stragglers coming in. I can see someone googleing the topic and then winding up here.
Awesome! But she has no personality ;)
I hope videos show up. Nothing much for the last 2 shows. I am hoping her spirits are better now. It seems they are on their way.
Haha! alli lurker maybe they do read here
I doubt it… Cafe Du Monde is on everyone’s list of things to do in NOLA.
I’m recording it. I’ll probably ff through the whole 2 hour show in 15 minutes.
It sounds like the Glam Nation krewe enjoyed some of New Orleans’ famous debauchery last night. I hope they’re not hanging over too badly today!
So Allison tweets about Gaga, but not one stinkin’ tweet about New Orleans? BOO!!
Yeah I figured. I was just joking. I guess I need to go. Those sound really good!
Haha! Anything interesting happen? (too lazy to read the other thread. lol)
I don’t know about you guys, but not liking the idea of Jennifer Lopez on the panel. Also, it makes me sick when these people get so greedy with the money. I mean $12 million isn’t enough? I still don’t understand why they couldn’t pay Paula a little more. She wasn’t asking for near $12 million, I think.
Got to go. Have a great day!
Just wanted to say that is has been a horrific evening. My football team is showing a terrible performance. This sucks! So glad to have football back. Lol.
On an Allison related note: good god can we please get some videos! We have had next to nothing for the last 3 shows.
Sorry about your football team! Ours hasn’t been very good since Elway retired, so I feel your pain.
No kidding, and better quality, too! LOL. So five shows left… two in Atlanta (how’d they get so lucky?), two in Florida, then Puyallup. I’m going out of town on Saturday to visit my parents. Last time I was there I couldn’t log in to this site, so I’ll only be able to see your comments for the last two shows, but not comment myself (at least not until I get home the next weekend!). My parents live on the east coast, so I’ll probably be sleeping when Puyallup starts.
I’m happy that the new TV shows are starting next week. We’ll need something to entertain us when this is all over!
We are rivals! Lol. You didn’t like Cutler? I can’t stand that guy. I love to watch Bears games and see him get frustrated and throw a lot of interceptions. Hehe. Same with Romo and Eli Manning. I am bad. That’s probably why my teams loses. Karma!
Yeah that too! Some people upload videos a week later. Why wait so long? It doesnt take that long to upload videos. I did mine in 15-20 minutes.
Have a great time! That’s too bad that you can’t comment. I wonder what Allison will do…Any crazy last show antics? We will have to talk about it when you get back because there will be nothing else to discuss (at least Allison related.) Lol
Yes! What are some of your faves? Any new ones that you are interested in?
We had high hopes for Cutler, but he turned out to be a big crybaby. The Bears had no idea what they were getting themselves into, lol. We like to watch him screw up, too! (Yep, we’re all terrible!) I like Eli Manning, I think he’s very cute. Payton is the one I can’t stand!
Modern Family and The Middle are my two faves. I also watch Cougar Town, 30 Rock, Grey’s Anatomy and Fringe. What do you like?
It reminded me of the Scars dress at first, but its okay. I like the back of the shirt and I really like the boots.
Yeah, I think they should have picked a country singer like Shania. I really liked her as a guest judge, and as we know, the show’s been putting out a lot of country singers.
I wonder how much longer the show will go on. I think its reached its expiration date. Plus, I think we’ve got too many idols at this point.
I’m looking forward to X Factor. It’ll be fun if Paula is there with Simon.
Haha! Glad I am not the only one who thinks he is a crybaby. I just actively root against the Bears just because I want to see their decision blow up in their faces. Peyton Manning doesn’t bother me. I do get tired of him getting MVP every year though. Oh and Brady… could that guy get any more good things to go his way? He has a supermodel wife, great looks, QB of a top NFL team, 3 superbowl rings. Man. Lucky!
I have watched Modern Family and Cougar Town. I haven’t seen all of the episodes though. Just a few here and there. I did love that Valentines Day one on Modern Family where she got her coat caught in the escalator. Hilarious! I watch Grey’s Anatomy too! The finale was really good. The show gets dumped on a lot for not being as good as it was in the beginning, but I still like it. What else… I like Chuck, Big Bang Theory, Vampire Diaries (hey it’s good soapy drama. lol)and I also watch other reality shows like Survivor and The Biggest Loser. I just record a lot of these shows and then watch them on the weekends.There are more, but I am forgetting right now. Lol.
ETA: I have seen 1 episode of Fringe just because I was flipping through the channels. I love Joshua Jackson. He was so charming on Dawson’s Creek. I loved that show. Also, I have heard The Middle is really funny. I may have to watch that too.
Yeah I really like the back of the shirt the best too. It made me think of the AI dress too.
I wanted Shania too! She seemed like someone who would give them constructive criticism, but deliver it in a nice way. Ellen had nothing relevant to say to them. I don’t understand why the didn’t pay Paula. I miss her. I will probably watch x-factor for the fun of it. I just worry about all of the manipulation that I hear is even worse on this show.
Great point about Idol being on too long and having too many artists out there. I think this hurt Allison because radio stations didn’t want to play all 3 from season 8 at once.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7fBsCOp25A
This is so bad it’s funny! I was reading about her in the simon thread. She won x-factor and this song is #1 in the UK right now. Haha!
Oh and Atlanta sucks! Lol.
I was listening to this and I’m like, “I know this song… where have I heard this before?” and then it came to me – the chorus of this song sounds just like a classic Mardi Gras song called Iko Iko, written back in the 50’s. Listen to the x-factor song starting around 0:55, then listen to this one at 0:25. I think it sounds very similar. (Sorry for the bad version, but tons of people have covered this song.) Rip off!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYEqWnRJJAE&feature=fvw
BTW – This girl looks like Leona Lewis, and Simon’s ex-girlfriend, and Simon’s (ex?) fiance. LOL!!
I started reading the comments and someone on page 2 said it was a rip off of the Dixie Cups Iko Iko. I’m glad someone else noticed it, too!
The Dixie Cups recorded this in 1965. I saw them sing it at the NOLA jazz fest this past spring!! Too funny!
Why? Bad comments? No vids?
jordison – A penny for your thoughts… what’s up with you?
Sorry for being vauge, but yeah I meant because there are no videos. Come on we are near the end! lol.
I will throw one in too ;)
Haha alli lurker that is funny regarding the two songs. I just can’t get over how bad some of the songs are these days.
I love how you put ex before fiance. Lol.
Just passing by the America’s Got Talent thread. I think Allison picked the wrong show. 1 million dollars and a headlining show in Vegas? Wow! I know this might not really get you much in the industry, but that sounds like a pretty good prize to me. Also, most of the people on this show are mediocre at best or at least the singers are.
Somebody else commented “Is that polly wolly doodle?” LMAO!!
Me too!! Although, isn’t the Idol winner’s recording contract worth a million? I thought I saw that somewhere.
I think there’s going to be a backlash soon against all these “winners”. Its just too much.
You are right. I think they do get a million, but I am not sure if they get cold hard cash or if that million goes towards making their album. I can’t remember.
I think it is ridiculous that these people get a million on AGT. They have to perform a few times. At least on Idol it seems like a much more grueling process.
BTW alli lurker that same person who just posted those videos for Dallas the other day has videos up from Adam’s set in Atlanta last night. My guess is we might see Allison videos in a week. Lol.
I guess better late than never!