Adam Lambert Will Win, Simon Cowell Tells Oprah

Simon Cowell, appearing on today’s Oprah Winfrey Show. Spoke about his contract ending and Adam Lambert winning American Idol.

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“I would have to put my money on Adam right now, ” says Simon, “He’s got that it, I think he’s fearless, I think he’s unique, and he’s got swagger. He’s made it into a really interesting competition. I think we could have a great final coming up.”

Simon says he enjoys working in America and enjoys doing the show, and although he feels that maybe it’s the end, as far as signing a new Idol contract is concerned, he plans to “keep an open door.”

Most of the hour featured talent show acts acts from around the world, including contestants from Simon’s xFactor, and of course, Susan Boyle from Britain’s Got Talent.

She didn’t sing, but Susan was featured in a video clip and satellite interview from Scotland.

Watch Simon on Idol and Susan Boyle, after the JUMP…

Simon on Adam Lambert and American Idol

Susan Boyle

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168 Comments

  1. Yeah, I don’t think this helps Adam at all!

    Simon needs to talk about each contestant equally and fairly or he needs to STFU!

  2. On know I hope not. I believe that Simon picked Kelly and Carrie in advance. So why not Adam?

  3. I don’t think that means that at all. He said the same thing last year about David Cook, lol.

  4. Simon is just being Simon. He makes bold predictions every year. It would be nice if this one came true. I guess we will see what happens on Wednesday after tomorrow night’s top 3 performances.

    ETA: It is wrong to throw Kris under the bus before he has even performed.

  5. Good lord, I hope this doesn’t cause fans to get complacent again.

  6. So if he thinks Adam will win why is he saying “I think we could have a great final coming up”. Seems to me it’s all pretty much been decided. I wish the judges would keep some of their comments/feelings to themselves at this stage of the game.

    So does this mean we might as well not vote? This is where I think these comments can come back and bite the contestants in the rear. And why I think the judges/Simon should use some restraint.

  7. In Season 5, Simon correctly predicted in Final 4 week that Elliott deserved to go to the next round. I can’t remember Simon incorrectly predicting anyone this late in the season. He knows the vote totals.

  8. I hate it when he does this, but I agree with him. (Even though I want my boy Kris to come in at #2!)

  9. Simon usually predicts quite well. I just hope this means Adam’s fans don’t get complacent.

    I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t remember Simon incorrectly predicting anyone this late in the season. He knows the vote totals.

    Yeah, I am wondering if the giant boost in vote totals last week wasn’t partly due to Adam’s fans. Maybe that is why he is making the bold prediction.

  10. In Season 5, Simon correctly predicted in Final 4 week that Elliott deserved to go to the next round. I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t remember Simon incorrectly predicting anyone this late in the season. He knows the vote totals.

    THAT.

  11. This is probably why Randy is out pimping Danny “he can sing anything” Gokey.

  12. I know that key industry folks in LA are dying to get Adam (and Alison!!!) under contract, so you would have thought Simon would support A&A. But I don’t this he is! I mean his comment to Adam “you might just of saved that one …” was a way of saying Alison is in trouble and don’t waste a vote on her. He didn’t even say her name! “that one”

    I don’t know what Simon and Randy are up to. But first Randy goes on the Today show this morning and says “Adam’s in the lead.” Then Simon says the he thinks Adam is going to win. They are trying to do something.

    Well if they are try to get Adam fans to be complacent, I think they are wrong this time.

  13. Cowell is great at working the viewing audience, heck the whole AI machine is great at dishing the hype. This is why the show is successful. As far as Lambert becoming a superstar. That is up for debate. I know a lot of industry people who would disagree 100% with Cowell. There is a huge leap, going from television personality to successful recording artist.

  14. I’ve been watching the ebb and flow of internet opinion over the past few weeks and it is just amazing me how one sentence out of someone can trigger a complete change of course in how things are perceived. If Simon or Randy or some anonymous blogger so much as dangles a participle we change direction for the day. :lol_tb:
    We are all sheep just riding the wave of whatever kerfluffle is keeping our angst well fed at the moment. :ponder_tb:

    However many fans there are out in voting land, I bet internet obsessors make up about 3% of them and nothing Simon says will affect the results. :smoke_tb:

  15. Simon makes some extremely “large” amounts of money for “just” being a judge on the show. I can’t remember what week it was, but they showed Simon’s trailor & there was a team of people in that trailor working on the “show”. I have always thought Simon was the quiet/secret part of AI “behind the scenes producing” that we are never allowed to know about. I also believe he has always known the vote totals.

    We would a “judge” need a team of people to discuss the way the “show” was going to go that night?

  16. I recall Simon doing the talk show circuit last year saying he thought David Cook should win, only to throw him under the bus on Finale night.

    Hmmm.

  17. Lisa that Brit Got Talent clip is aweful — and not at all fun. They seem to like to feature odd-ball acts. Maybe I’ve been too harsh on Danny — at least “Dream On” was funny.

  18. Matt he did yes, and did you catch the wink at the end of his “supposedly” throwing David under the bus? I was a DC fan, and I can tell you that fired up his fanbase to the likes I have never seen on AI & I was one of the ones fired up.

    Simon is a “master” puppetmaster.

  19. only to throw him under the bus on Finale night.

    But was he really throwing him under the bus or was he using reverse psychology? Sneaky Simon…don’t under-estimate him.

  20. I just hope that if Kris does do well on Tuesday that Simon gives him his due. It’s so obvious that he is dying for a Danny/Adam finale, so all I hope is that he’s fair on Tuesday.

  21. Well, HE SHOULD. With the three we got left I feel the only one that deserves to win is Adam, and I wish Kris could be runner-up but since that stands a snowballs chance in hell….

    So please be right Simon, don’t let it be Gokey.

  22. Simon’s pick should not be a surprise at all. And I seem to recall that at this time last year he was predicting a David Cook win too, and turned out great for both of them.

    I don’t think Simon has it wrong at all. Adam IS unique, and Americans are bored…BORED, I say…with much of mainstream output these days.

  23. This is one of the reasons i will be voting my @$$ off tomorrow for Kris..These stupid predecided finales….they really need to stop this..

    KRIS ALLEN FOR THE FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  24. Yep. Simon knows everything. Looks like I just won my bet. :thumbup_tb:

    I recall Simon doing the talk show circuit last year saying he thought David Cook should win, only to throw him under the bus on Finale night.

    Hmmm.

    His motive for doing that is still in question.

    Just know this, if it turns out that he’s wrong, brutha-man will backtrack.

  25. LOL TKat & rockvixen. Yep a “whole lotta” difference in being able to sing ” in a higher range” like Adam or totally sounding like a girl aka Greg Pritchard.

    Back to polarizing. I think both Danny & Adam are. I think Kris has been ho hum. I am not saying any of these guys are bad singers. I love Adam and think he is just bigger than life. I know peeps that love Danny’s voice & think he is the greatest. I know folks who love the quiet side of Kris.

    We all love different things, & I think that’s cooool. In the end, it’s just personal taste. My flavor runs to all of the extremes from quiet to loud, it’s just “this year” my flavor is eating up some Adam.

  26. Is “Swagger” the buzzword of the season? Last season I think it was the “phone book”…oy…silly judges!!!

  27. Is à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Swaggerà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  the buzzword of the season?

    “Swag,” if you’re Kara.


  28. Matt he did yes, and did you catch the wink at the end of his à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“supposedlyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  throwing David under the bus? I was a DC fan, and I can tell you that fired up his fanbase to the likes I have never seen on AI & I was one of the ones fired up.

    Simon is a à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“masterà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  puppetmaster.

    Eh, I never really bought that theory. If that’s the case, he would have destroyed Fantasia and Carrie Underwood on their given nights, as he was really pushing for them to win.

    I think Simon was just having a bit of a fit because he wanted David to sing Billie Jean again and David went with TWIK. But then again I can’t really explain his critique for Dream Big.

    Yeah, Simon’s a tough one to read.

    But, to be honest, I wouldn’t be shocked if Simon praised Gokey to the high-heavens on Finale night.

  29. Adam Lambert Will Win

    No s***, Sherlock.

    Seriously, as a non invested viewer of Idol this season, I have no doubt whatsoever that Adam is going to win. It’s not even a season where there’s the appearance of a real competition, it’s a season like Carrie’s and Jordin’s. He’s TCO without any reservation and he’s winning this.
    I know that won’t stop his fans from stressing out… oh well, I was there last year with Cook.

    BTW – There was no need to “fire up” Cook’s fanbase last year, he was leading on Archie every week since Top 7. I think Simon was just disappointed David did it “his way” and not in the big, show-off Idol way. But that’s off topic here I guess.

  30. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think Simon has it wrong at all. Adam IS unique, and Americans are boredà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦BORED, I sayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦with much of mainstream output these days.

    Yep.

    This is one of the reasons i will be voting my @$$ off tomorrow for Kris..These stupid predecided finalesà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.they really need to stop this..

    If it’s predecided why vote?

    FWIW, sometimes the polarizing idol wins.

    I really don’t know why Adam is considered so polarizing though. Seriously.

  31. Just know this, if it turns out that heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s wrong, brutha-man will backtrack.

    LOL Yep even down to back trackin’ on “the red carpet” LOL.

  32. As far as Lambert becoming a superstar. That is up for debate. I know a lot of industry people who would disagree 100% with Cowell. There is a huge leap, going from television personality to successful recording artist.

    THIS.

    I’m finding some of the hype surrounding him to be a bit premature. Don’t get me wrong, I do like him, and I think he is clearly a hard worker who knows what he wants. I just think that may not be clear to the rest of the industry, and there is still the question of whether the kind of artist he wants be fits with the kind of artist his new found fans expect him to be. (see: Taylor Hicks)

    Say what you will about Kris Allen or Allison Iraheta, at least the music industry has an idea of what to expect from them.

  33. I also believe he has always known the vote totals.

    I don’t think he knows them before they are announced; but all of the judges know how they played out after each show. He makes out like the winners are all “his” favorite; but he waits until this time each year to make a decision and it’s because he has seen the previous votes.

    Notice he said: à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I would have to put my money on Adam right now.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

    That’s because Adam has the most votes at present; but even Simon can’t tell how the last 2 weeks will play out.

  34. Well, in my opinion, over the course of the season, Adam is the only one out of these three who has consistently performed at an American Idol winner’s level. Mileage varies and all that, but for me, Kris and Danny have both had trainwreck performances. Adam, while polarizing, has never had a real trainwreck moment, and has been consistently good to excellent. Not that any of that matters to the voters… they’ll vote for whoever they want to for whatever reason they want to. But, it’s jmo.

    I love in one of the other threads, someone mentioned that people who like Jason Mraz, Jack Johnson, John Mayer, Ben Harper type singers – that Kris is their guy this year. Um, no. I love those type singers, in fact, that’s primarily the type of music I buy and listen to most. While I LIKE Kris this season, Adam is my guy. Of course, I’m also like Lisa in that my “flavor” runs the gamut. Just because I like the quiet, sensitive, acoustic rockers doesn’t mean that I also can’t like the loud, “screeching”, wailing rockers, too. That’s why generalizations bug me. But moving on…

    I’ve always wondered if Simon knows the vote totals. Or, if he doesn’t know totals, if he knows the ranking from week to week and if one contestant is way ahead of the others. I do think he has more “insight” and “knowledge” than he sometimes lets on.

    Also, whoever TPTB don’t want in the finale, I have a feeling won’t necessarily get thrown under the bus this week. I just have a feeling it will be a “faint praise” scenario instead of an all out, no holds barred sending the bus for them. Just my feeling. If I’m wrong, I’ll gladly admit it.

    And lastly… I feel that it’s time to break this out again, but with a different name preceding it… Adam FTMFW! ;)

  35. Matt he did yes, and did you catch the wink at the end of his à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“supposedlyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  throwing David under the bus? I was a DC fan, and I can tell you that fired up his fanbase to the likes I have never seen on AI & I was one of the ones fired up.Simon is a à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“masterà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  puppetmaster.

    lol I voted my butt off for Cookie last year because I was afraid he’d lose.

    Good lord, I hope this doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t cause fans to get complacent again.

    I hope not either that would suck.

  36. I often think that all this “throwing under the bus” and “pimping” at the lsat 2 weeks is simply to keep up suspense and keep up the ratings.

    Think about it this way… If the judges know the vote totals, and for example, they know that there is a 95% chance that Adam is going to take this sucker home, well… perhaps Simon will pimp Adam, but Randy will be alllllll about Danny Gokey, giving Danny’s fans belief that he can still win and they should still tune in.

    Last year, after hearing vote percentages, we found out that David Cook won HUGE. Perhaps Simon threw him under the bus on finale night to keep Archie’s fans thinking that their boy still had a chance to win.

    And so on through the seasons. The internet fans are a little more savvy, but the regular watcher, like say… my mom, would actually think some of these have been close races.

  37. He said the same thing last year about David Cook, lol.

    Now, didn’t he also say that Archie would win?

    http://tv.popcrunch.com/simon-cowell-predicts-american-idol-winner-david-archuleta/
    http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2008/03/simon-cowell-pr.html
    http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/american-idol-judges-predict-david-archuleta-vs-david-cook-finale-6889.php

    Cowell had previously described Archuleta as the “one to beat,” and reiterated those comments about the 17-year-old during the Larry King Live appearance.

    “He’s the one to beat,” said Cowell before providing his reasoning. “This guy is going to have the teen vote. He’s going to have what I call the granny votes. The kids love him.” 4/08/08

  38. I know Diane Warren for one would love to work with Adam. I know she gets alot of heat for her songs, but Diane has some mega monster hits.

    I can see Adam going the “I Don’t Want To Miss A Thing” (Aerosmith) route or the ballad route aka male version of “Because You Loved Me” (Celine Dion) or “Un-Break My Heart” (Tony Braxton) or even “How Do I Live” ( LeAnn Rimes). I think he has the chops to pull anything off and make it a hit.

  39. Actually I think Simon does have favorites or people that jump out at him and he never jumps off that bandwagon. Ruben, Fantasia, Carrie, Cook, and Adam have really been the ones you can tell he genuinely sees the talent. That doesn’t mean he won’t criticize, because he did criticize them all, but I think he really sees something in Adam even when others haven’t been so sure.

    Of course he knows the totals after the fact, and he knows how it’s trending, but I also feel he prefers Adam to Danny. Of course for Kris fans, this might seem as if he will be Syesha’d, and he probably will be. So it’s up to Kris to play his own game, and at least make it interesting.

    I don’t think there is much backtracking to do as he has pretty much called Danny boring, corny, and not very original. All he can do if Danny or Kris wins is call it an upset.

    As for last finale night, I remember the reaction of the Cook fans on this board and many agreed with Simon about Cookies performance and Archie’s too. The spoiler in the audience as well. The deal with that is that for the most part, whoever wins this thing did it over the course of a season, and it’s never a one punch knock out, but a series of blows that wins this thing. That is why Danny, but mostly Adam seem to have their spot pretty much locked up.

  40. Cowell had previously described Archuleta as the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“one to beat,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  and reiterated those comments about the 17-year-old during the Larry King Live appearance.

    That was IGB week that Simon was on Larry King last year so that was fairly early in the season. Archie was probably still dominating the votes then. When it was down to the wire he predicted Cook would win on Jay Leno.

  41. There are a slew of links of Simon picking David Cook so not going to give a whole list. Here is a search on all the links tho.

    Right. My point being that he’s completely distended with feces

  42. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think he knows them before they are announced; but all of the judges know how they played out after each show.

    The company, who count the voting process advertise access to real time results and a lot of more. Who would use it if not the producer ?

  43. I love in one of the other threads, someone mentioned that people who like Jason Mraz, Jack Johnson, John Mayer, Ben Harper type singers – that Kris is their guy this year. Um, no. I love those type singers, in fact, thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s primarily the type of music I buy and listen to most. While I LIKE Kris this season, Adam is my guy. Of course, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m also like Lisa in that my à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“flavorà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  runs the gamut. Just because I like the quiet, sensitive, acoustic rockers doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean that I also canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like the loud, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“screechingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ , wailing rockers, too. Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s why generalizations bug me. But moving onà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

    eta.

    I hear ya, as I feel the same way. These guys are constants on my ipod, but on the show, this year, it’s Adam that has commanded my attention. I am not going to analyze it, or try to explain it. I am just going to enjoy it.

    à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the one to beat,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  said Cowell before providing his reasoning. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“This guy is going to have the teen vote. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s going to have what I call the granny votes. The kids love him.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  4/08/08

    The time stamp on this speaks volumes. Put a 5 in front of it, and certainly the shift was noticeable. The ones to watch don’t always make it across the finish line, reference Smithson, Carly, Johns, Michael. Sligh, Chris, etc,

  44. SIMON IS A PRODUCER THIS YEAR….of course he knows the vote totals….he is the main man behind the show, trust me. he knows EVERYTHING. and if you think he doesnt, your CRAZY.

  45. Now, didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t he also say that Archie would win?

    Actually, no he didn’t. Saying someone will win and saying someone is “the one to beat” is NOT the same thing. Someone over on TWoP’s grassy knoll said this happened all the time in previous seasons – that Simon always spoils the winner by saying stuff like “you could win this” and the runner up by saying they’re “the ones to beat”.

    I only saw season 7, so that’s the only season where I saw it happen, but maybe others here remember other examples.

  46. Actually, no he didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t.

    Those first two links I posted are of him saying that Archuleta will win. I clipped out that last bit from the Larry King link because he was half-hedging at that point in early april.

  47. Simon does NOT have the last word. That belongs to the audience, unless the whole thing is hopelessly rigged and then fageddaboudit, that’s the end of Idol.

    Simon wanted Melinda to win, for which I respect him. And he’s often been the sharpest “tool” in the toolbox of judges.

    But this year something was off from the jump. Did anyone else get the feeling that they had something specific in mind and passed over lotsa folks we never saw or heard from? not musically different, more like “image” different. They will certainly get that with Adam. And they’d get it with Gokey, but they’d also get craploads of ridicule.

    Simon was pissy about Allison and Kris all along. That “lack of personality” junk came up quickly, and the trying to save Matt had the air of desperation about it. Perhaps they thought Anoop was too much like David Archuleta, in terms of his song taste and appeal.

    And some of the things that have been said to Kris from that table are just stone laughable. OK, I’m willing to admit the guy doesn’t exude huge stage charisma. Adam has got him beat on that one, no contest. But he’s one of the most genuinely musically creative people EVER on Idol. I can’t think of another contestant apart from Cookie whose arrangements were as unusual and fresh. He knows how jazz it, how to swing it, how it rockabilly it. And I love the guy’s voice — power implement it ain’t, but for me that’s not a problem. My main grip with Adam (apart from my just not being into the glam-bam-wham genre) is the lack of vocal/ musical dynamics. Different strokes, folks!

    But I’m prepared to see Adam win, and admit he’s earned his shot.

    What I cannot stand is the idea that Gokey could be shoved down our throats. :nono_tb: I just don’t believe it can happen. DON’T LET THEM DO IT, IDOL-WATCHERS. If you aren’t wild about Adam, just go back and listen to the Kris numbers — even the ones that didn’t get praised are really ear-worthy.

    There’s a reason that people are buying his downloads. They sound damn good!

  48. i agree, i hope adam fans do not get complacent…he is going to need all the help he can get.

    mj..i live in new york, great job in the new york post today!!

  49. Sarah, I find it interesting the argument that Adam hasn’t had a bad performance this season. It’s all so subjective, and it seems that even most of his hard core fans admit he’s had weak weeks.

    I know many people who still like Adam, but would consider any one of Ring of Fire, PTFMWB, or Born to Be Wild train wrecks. Especially Ring of Fire. Again, it’s all subjective so I think it’s a stretch to say that Adam has had a perfect run.

    I might add that Kris only real acknowledged train wreck, All She Wants To Do is Dance, was considered a wreck because of the arrangement, not the vocal. Just like the criticism of Adam’s Ring of Fire. And there has been much made of Adam’s over use of the “glory note” we all normally rail against so much. Just because he does it well doesn’t mean the criticism isn’t warranted.

    I’m not saying Kris hasn’t had other weak weeks, but to me (subjective, I know) a weak week for Adam or Kris is a pretty good week for just about anyone else.

    IMHO, Danny is in over his head. He does have a good tone, but he has absolutely no idea what to do with it. He’s the perfect example of a good voice that can’t sing. His attitude, whether oblivious or willfully arrogant, is not helping matters.

    Having said all that, I still believe Adam will and should win. Both Adam and Kris, and hopefully Allison, will be given a chance at post Idol careers. I just hope that they all can capitalize on those opportunities. I actually worry more about Adam than the other two. Sometimes work ethic and drive just isn’t enough.

  50. STFU Simon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I think this is anyone’s to win:

    Danny has a HUGE fanbase
    Kris is gaining every performance

    No question that Adam is the most talented vocally but I NEVER have thought he would actually win (did pick him in pool cause I WANT him to win).

    I know the media acts like he is running away with this, but I just don’t believe it for a minute.

    This week’s performances and judges responses will be very interesting!!!!!!!!!

  51. Those first two links I posted are of him saying that Archuleta will win.

    I didn’t go into your links, I was talking about comments made on the show itself. I haven’t followed Simon’s press closely enough early in the Idol season to know what he said at that stage, I heard what he said on the show and when he made his public prediction before the finale.

    My point stands that during Season 7, the only one who heard Simon attach the word “win” to his name was Cook. I find it interesting if that’s something that goes back to previous winners.

  52. There’s a BIG BIG difference between Adam Lambert and David Archuleta, make me laugh :lol_tb:

  53. But this year something was off from the jump. Did anyone else get the feeling that they had something specific in mind and passed over lotsa folks we never saw or heard from?

    There has been a lot of talent in group 3, that has been just ignored and you can’t tell me Lil has been the best girl, who auditioned to play the Diva part.

  54. To me its funny because i think if kris can get past this week he wins.
    I dont see adam or danny’s core base voting for the other.If TPTB think that too then they will have someone from Guinness World Records on scene.THE SIZE OF THE BUS COMING WILL BE THAT BIG.

  55. Season 2, final 2 night despite pimping Ruben all season Simon told Clay after his epic Bridge Over Troubled Water performance “that performance could win you the competition.” I think that year and last were the only two times he called the wrong winner the last night. I also think Simon will probably throw a tantrum or get up and quit if Adam doesn’t win.

  56. I think this is anyoneà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s to win

    I agree with this. I think that for second time in Idol history, any combination of the three would be the final 2. It’s not Judge’s Pet vs Fan Favorite vs been-in-the-bottom-3-six-times.
    Even if Gokey was in the bottom 2 last week (speculation – unknown) that would mean that they were all on even footing with the voting.

  57. I love in one of the other threads, someone mentioned that people who like Jason Mraz, Jack Johnson, John Mayer, Ben Harper type singers – that Kris is their guy this year. Um, no. I love those type singers, in fact, thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s primarily the type of music I buy and listen to most. While I LIKE Kris this season, Adam is my guy. Of course, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m also like Lisa in that my à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“flavorà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  runs the gamut. Just because I like the quiet, sensitive, acoustic rockers doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean that I also canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like the loud, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“screechingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ , wailing rockers, too. Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s why generalizations bug me. But moving onà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

    I can’t even begin to tell you how much I agree. I was having this conversation with my sister-in-law at a mother’s day dinner last night, in fact. Because both of us are Adam fans and he is NOTHING, NOTHING like the music we listen to normally. And funny because last year I went for the Jack Johnson, John Mayer, Jason Mraz, etc type of singer, and this year I’m not behind Kris. I mean I still like Kris and I have voted for him a few times, but Adam’s my guy in this race and what draws him to him is a magnitude of things, but that’s it right there, he draws me in. All the others have failed to do so.

    I do feel Adam deserves this over the other three and I mean no offense to Kris(maybe Gokey but he just makes it so easy) but he’s performed at an entire different caliber than anyone else in this competition all season long. He truly is in a league all his own, and even my family, who aren’t gunho about Adam, are in agreement that he needs to win.

    I also do feel that Adam is entirely capable of making and having a successful career post Idol, puppies and rainbow song and all. I think the element of surprise works in his favor and personally out of eight seasons I’ve not liked a contestant as much as I like Adam…and I’ve had my favorites, but there is something about Adam that will make me follow him post Idol moreso than I do with some of the others.

    I just have a feeling that Simon is right, and while he had a disingenuous smirk I do feel Adam will win and I’ll vote to make sure it happens.

    Because really, a Gokey and Kris finale would be a snoozefest….

  58. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“that performance could win you the competition.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

    That was him hedging his bets. It wasn’t like him telling Taylor that he’d basically won after one performance, or telling Fanny to look up and read the American Idol sign. Or even telling Carrie that she would sell more cds than anyone else. For the record, I liked Clay back then, even though I preferred Ruben, but I will never forgive him for the massacre of that beautiful song. I was perplexed that so many people loved it. Just goes to show ymmv!

  59. “What I cannot stand is the idea that Gokey could be shoved down our throats. :nono_tb: I just donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t believe it can happen. DONà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢T LET THEM DO IT, IDOL-WATCHERS. ”

    What if he does? Doesn’t translate into a career. Danny’s limited–and always will be.

  60. Kind of a parallel case: So You Think You Can Dance–Nigel said he knew Joshua was going to win because he saw the vote counts coming in each week. He also said, he was the only judge who did.

  61. See, I’m completely opposite of Sarah, in that I kind of listen to a lot of music that has a lot of screaming and theatricality to it (in largely varying degrees – please don’t LOL at my taste in music :P), like Mars Volta, The Used, Rise Against, Muse and Flyleaf (omg, I would LOVE Adam to do a Flyleaf song for some reason – All Around Me, maybe). So, Adam is not much of a revelation to me. I like his slower stuff, but the “OTT” stuff just pales for me and I thought it was kind of terrible (*hides*)

    However, I listen to some John Mayer and indie music, like Aqualung, Bloc Party, My Morning Jacket, etc, but nowhere near as much as I do of the loud stuff, yet I picked Kris over Adam. I really have no idea why, but I have no doubt in my mind that Adam will win, and I have no problem with that. He’s captured the hearts of a lot of people, and I think that’s great, tbh.

  62. But this year something was off from the jump. Did anyone else get the feeling that they had something specific in mind and passed over lotsa folks we never saw or heard from?

    There is nothing new with that. I think it starts in auditions, they are looking for something specific each year, since season 2 that has been obvious to me. Season 2, it was an R &B singer, third was obviously r&b female or a pop diva. Next was country or rock guy, etc, etc.

  63. “Thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a BIG BIG difference between Adam Lambert and David Archuleta,”

    Not in terms of buzz. Even Cook was perceived in a lot of places as the antidote to Archie. Castro called AI the David Archuleta Show–the way people are calling it the Adam Lambert Show this time around.

  64. With any prediction that Adam will win, the transfer of voters MUST be considered. If Kris goes home, a good portion of his fans might vote for Danny OR vice versa.

    I want Adam to win, but nothing is guaranteed.

    Yes, TPTB always have an agenda regardless what great talent they (the other producers) may encounter. If they want one blonde Country singer, they may pass up on others in this category. Sad, really.

  65. Eh, why is everyone saying Kris is thrown under the bus? Is it in the interview? I’ve watched the video but he only mentioned Adam?

  66. I love in one of the other threads, someone mentioned that people who like Jason Mraz, Jack Johnson, John Mayer, Ben Harper type singers – that Kris is their guy this year.

    Whoever that someone is has correctly described me… Hey- maybe I’m the someone that posted it – lol – I don’t remember. I really enjoy Kris and I love how he’s come out of nowhere and landed in the top three! Sigh, I’m gonna miss him next week.

  67. Simon is entitled to his opinion. I am only afraid that people who like Adam will get complacent and not vote with all this talk of him being “the sure winner.” He will win IF people vote for him, it’s as simple as that.

  68. But this year something was off from the jump. Did anyone else get the feeling that they had something specific in mind and passed over lotsa folks we never saw or heard from?

    Funny, I was just looking through MJ’s archives and look what our own Sarah had to say about her cattle-call audition:

    Sarah says they were putting through a lot of emo looking guys (Pete Wentz types) and she saw some guys with cowboy hats going through.

    Heh.

    I agree with abbysee that they have a particular type they’re searching for each season.

  69. Nice try Simon.
    I will not get Complacent on Voting for Adam.
    I wan’t him in the Finale!!!!!

  70. Eh, why is everyone saying Kris is thrown under the bus? Is it in the interview? Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve watched the video but he only mentioned Adam?

    No I think what people mean is it’s expected Kris will be thrown under the bus tomorrow night. Of course Adam was the only one mentioned considering he’s went on record saying no one else matters.

  71. steve May 11th, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    To me its funny because i think if kris can get past this week he wins.
    I dont see adam or dannyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s core base voting for the other.If TPTB think that too then they will have someone from Guinness World Records on scene.THE SIZE OF THE BUS COMING WILL BE THAT BIG.

    I think it’s quite possible that Kris could win if he gets past this week, for the very reason you stated. However, It will be interesting to see how the judges play it out since I also believe they really want an Adam/Danny finale. I think it’s possible that if Kris performs as well as he has all along, and they try to throw him under the bus, this may only cause fans to vote harder for Kris this week. IDK…how will they twist it to get the results they want? Will we see BS manipulation at its finest, or will they just settle for whatever happens.

    I kinda think Adam will be praised (deservedly so), and that whatever they tell Danny and Kris will be based on…I really can’t say, don’t know.

  72. I love in one of the other threads, someone mentioned that people who like Jason Mraz, Jack Johnson, John Mayer, Ben Harper type singers – that Kris is their guy this year.

    I don’t particularly like Mraz, Mayer, or Jack Johnson, but I love Kris.

    Kris said in one of his interviews on the AI site (the one with Jesse Langseth) that his influences (or favorites? I forget) included Michael Jackson and Boys II Men, and more recently, Mraz and Gavin DeGraw. Kris was definitely in his element singing I Want You Back, Man In The Mirror, and Do You Remember The Time. He has a soul side to him. It’s one side of him, he can also do the indie thing, swing Jerome Kern, and play electric guitar on Come Together.

    I would hesitate to place him strictly in the that one genre. I think he’s perhaps more mainstream than that, and more r & b also. Anyway, he’s more versatile.

  73. Erinn, I think there’s a vast difference between having a “weak” performance and having a “trainwreck” performance. I don’t deny that Adam hasn’t had an “omg!showstopping!” performance every week, but also, in my opinion, he also hasn’t had a trainwreck performance. He’s had more great-to-excellent numbers than weak ones, imo.

    ETA: LOL star. I was thinking about that the other day. I’d forgotten I put that in my recap. But it’s true. I did see a lot of guys with that “look” making it through.

  74. Frankly, I feel bad for the other contestants. Entertainment Weekly, that normally has a feature article on the top three or four or two this time devoted an entire article to Adam Lambert. Simon is telling America that Adam will win. It isn’t even a competition this year. It is simply the discovery of Adam Lambert. If he were a true amateur I would think it was wonderful, as I do about Susan Boyle. But, Adam Lambert is not what I am looking for on American Idol. It is a Danny Gokey or a Kris Allen or an Allison Iraheta I would like to see. It is an untrained, unhyped, undiscovered talent who takes us by surprise. Adam is a professional singer with far more stage experience than anyone else in the competition. I am really sorry that he is a contestant on the show although I have no doubt that he will have a fantastic career in music. He is incredibly talented but would have had one without the show. Some of these other young people actually need the opportunity that American Idol provides to launch their career. Let’s hope the record companies are also listening to the other contestants. I have decided though that when Kris Allen leaves the competition so do I. It is a forgone conclusion that Adam will win. Not much fun this year.

  75. Sarah, in my opinion Ring of Fire was a trainwreck. On the other hand, Tracks of My Tears was phenomenal. It is all a matter of taste and I don’t mean whether some people have it and others don’t. It is about the kind of music you like and the kind you prefer not to purchase, download, or listen to. Thank goodness there are different genres for different tastes.

  76. Because both of us are Adam fans and he is NOTHING, NOTHING like the music we listen to normally. And funny because last year I went for the Jack Johnson, John Mayer, Jason Mraz, etc type of singer, and this year Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not behind Kris. I mean I still like Kris and I have voted for him a few times, but Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s my guy in this race and what draws him to him is a magnitude of things, but thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s it right there, he draws me in. All the others have failed to do so.

    Yes, exactly. Well said.

  77. I wish Simon would stop saying Adam’s going to win.

    All it is doing is making his fans think that he’s got it in the bag, and the Kris and Danny fans probably look at things like this and get determined to vote even more for their favorite.

    Stop it Simon!!!

  78. I thought Ring Of Fire was Adam’s best performance of the season. Well, maybe second best to Whole Lotta Love.

    Anyway, to have a bonafide train wreck you need a pretty good consensus that it was a disaster.

  79. There is nothing new with that. I think it starts in auditions, they are looking for something specific each year, since season 2 that has been obvious to me. Season 2, it was an R &B singer, third was obviously r&b female or a pop diva. Next was country or rock guy, etc, etc.

    I don’t know if they are searching for a type at the start of the season. If so, this year they seemed to be pushing Danny, Lil, Adam and Matt from early on — so what type is that? Adam, Tatiana and “bikini girl” make good TV so they get features.

    AI clearly “casts” the show to make it entertaining. And they seem to have a script (although Alison, Kris, Adam and Lil forget to follow it):

    Danny: R&B, church music leader, tragic story*
    Lil: Black diva, big voice, cute kids*
    Adam: OTT, glam rocker from Hollywood***
    Matt: Jazzy “Justin Timberlake” type
    Scott: The “blind” guy
    Alison: Rock chick, magenta hair**
    Kris: Singer/songwriter, nice guy**
    Anoop: Likable, Indian-American, preppy college guy
    Megan: Offbeat kook
    Alexis: Cute young blond
    Michael: Family man, regular guy
    Jasmine: Young, cute black girl (First AI finalist from Mississippi!!)
    Jorge: Latin, from PR*

    * Selected to be 11 or 12 in their Semi-Final Group.
    ** Not promo’d in early part of season; not in TPTB’s lat season script.
    *** He’s entertaining but too “theatrical”; American will vote him off after a few weeks.

    My guess is that at the end of the semi-finals the judges expected a Final with Danny and Lil. Instead, they may get Adam and Kris.

  80. It’s entirely possible for Danny and Kris to be the final 2. Danny has yet to bottom out and Kris’s fanbase refuse to let him go. That leaves one person, whom everyone thinks has this thing in the bag. Frankly, I wouldn’t mind a Danny/Kris finale.

  81. He is incredibly talented but would have had one without the show. Some of these other young people actually need the opportunity that American Idol provides to launch their career.

    …and what career would that have been? A permanent understudy in Wicked? This has been discussed over and over again. He did not have the career he wanted or had aspired to. He hadn’t got that break that sent him into stardom. He might have had years of performing experience but none that made him a household name like AI has. Why should performers like Adam be exempt from trying out for AI just because they have have languished as understudies and cabaret performers gaining stage experience rather than performing in their church? I don’t get it.

  82. I wish Simon would stop saying Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s going to win.

    All it is doing is making his fans think that heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s got it in the bag

    Totally disagree. He’s on national TV saying Adam is going to win, which will cause the casual voters who like Kris or Gokey to either vote Adam or give up.

  83. It is an untrained, unhyped, undiscovered talent who takes us by surprise. Adam is a professional singer with far more stage experience than anyone else in the competition. I am really sorry that he is a contestant on the show although I have no doubt that he will have a fantastic career in music.

    I like that finding the truly scuffling, undiscovered talent idea too. Nobody can win this without enough experience not to crumble (ie, forget lyrics ON CAMERA, heh), to keep your cool while the tableoids are dissing you, to keep it about the music even when they’re making you do stupid Ford commercials.

    But I really loved that Cookie was just grooving along as a bartender, Taylor was playing dives and getting discouraged, Fantasia was doing heaven knows what and then…..blammo! The break of a lifetime.

    I think it has been a problem for me that Adam is already so packaged. But I’ll give him this: he ain’t complacent. He’s worked hard for the glory. And even if I have little interest in hearing his records, I think he’d probably be a happier and better No. 1 than Kris, who is my fave. Kris might do better with No. 2 — he could make a more interesting first album, with a cool label., and not try to do the full dress Idol boogie. BUT I CAN’T STAND THE THOUGHT OF HIM BEING THIRD! I don’t have an personal axe to grind against Mr. Gokey, his family, his church etc. I just think he’s not musically anywhere near the other two.

    And whoever said that the early stages of Idol are really a “casting call” to cast a certain kind of character so that the next Idols don’t keep repeating genres and images, that sounds about right. Too bad, however, that it may leave out some incredible talents who just happened to audition in the wrong year….

  84. Not really. I’m only giving my own opinion. Ring of Fire was a trainwreck to me. I hated it. Horrible interpretation of the western genre. It was theatrical and complete nonsense in my opinion. Its okay if it isn’t your opinion. I do think there was pretty much consensus that Danny’s rock night was a trainwreck. I agree with that, too.

  85. Frankly, I wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mind a Danny/Kris finale.

    I like Kris. A lot. I appreciate his laid-back singer-song writer vibe and his musicianship. But a Danny/Kris final? The energy level… Whew!

  86. If “energy” is the prerequisite for the title, Bo Bice would have won.

  87. Shari (sorry, I can’t quote on this computer, ugh) –

    I see to an extent where you’re coming from, but I don’t buy the whole Danny, Kris, and Allison are untrained and complete rank amateurs. If you haven’t been performing on stage at least a little, you’ll crumble on this show. It doesn’t matter whether that stage is an off Broadway stage or cabaret theater (Adam), at a church (Kris and Danny), or on a Spanish talent program (Allison). It’s still in front of a significant number of people and on a regular basis. They ALL have experience. Just because Adam lives in Hollywood does not mean he was already discovered or that he holds an unfair advantage over the others.

    And I agree with Natasha that for something to be classified as a trainwreck, there has to be a pretty bonafide consensus that it was a disaster. Like Danny’s “Dream On.” Or Cook’s “Innocent.” Or Archie’s “With You.” Even taking into account WNTS’s small sampling of online fans and bloggers, Adam’s ROF still scored a 51, while the other three I mentioned were all below 30.

    Polarizing, yes. Trainwreck? I don’t think so. YMMV and obviously does.

  88. TKat, a lot of what you say makes sense, exce[t I think they expected a Lil/Adam finale. They were the two completely hyped from day one. They also capitalized on Danny’s back story to gain interest, but it ended up hurting Danny as viewers were turned off by the obvious promoting this poor widower living his wife’s dying wish for him. I don’t think they hyped Kris at all. He wasn’t supposed to go this far into the competition. He was the nice change of pace from the power belters that didn’t lose his composure under stress of the competition or the judges criticism. His singing was spot on and his ability to play guitar and keyboards and arrange music to his style did not go unnoticed. Lost in all of the Adam attention and Danny polorizing is the fact that Kris Allen can really sing and has a beautiful honest and pure voice and a joy in the music that comes through and just warms your heart. There are many of us out here that are voting for him not to vote against anyone else but simply because it is his kind of music and personality that resonates with us and that we appreciate.

  89. . But, Adam Lambert is not what I am looking for on American Idol. It is a Danny Gokey or a Kris Allen or an Allison Iraheta I would like to see. It is an untrained, unhyped, undiscovered talent who takes us by surprise. Adam is a professional singer with far more stage experience than anyone else in the competition.

    Not true. Allison won an Idol like contest on Telemundo I think. Kris had a CD. Gokey is a music director.

    Adam was a musical theater actor and a frontman for a band. He’s never had a cd, only demos.

    Danny has been hyped so much I wince when it’s his turn.

  90. Danny has yet to bottom out and Krisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fanbase refuse to let him go.

    We don’t know that for sure about Danny. They didn’t name a bottom two last week.

    That leaves one person, whom everyone thinks has this thing in the bag.

    Everywhere I’ve looked, Adam’s fans are panicking and stocking up on GoPhones, lol. The majority seem to be hypersensitive and constantly twist positives (ie, the EW cover) into negatives. So his fanbase is definitely not getting complacent and assuming he has this won already. As long as he delivers strong performances tomorrow night and picks up the votes of casual viewers too, he’ll be fine.

  91. To me this show is simply about discovering great singers who have not been signed. The teen singers, obviously, but also those like Kris, Adam, D. Cook, who have a few years under their belts and deserve a shot.

    That there have been some winners that have not gone on to greatness (Taylor) is fine. There are still plenty of singers who are discovered in the traditional way, so AI is not everything. It is still a very tough business for the long haul, with or without AI backing.

    I feel that Simon is careful to modify his statements, so that he is only talking about this moment in time. I would guess that on a show like Oprah, it could get some casual voters to say to themselves, oh, Simon thinks Adam is the best, then it must be so.

    I don’t think Adam’s fan base will let go now that he is so close, so I guess I think this could help him if he has a great performance, and won’t hurt him if he doesn’t.

    BTW, I vote for Adam. Since it can’t be an A/A finale, I would like to see Kris in there.

  92. What star said. As long as Adam delivers tomorrow night, I don’t think there’s a need to worry. At this point, the casual vote is one of the most important things, and if people feel he gave one of the best performances of the night, they’ll vote for him. The worry will come in if he’s just “good enough” but not “fantastic” and one of the other guys delivers a showstopper, imo.

  93. Adam needs this as much as any contestant. He’s been in Hollywood 8 or 9 years and has done all sorts of music jobs trying to get a record deal. He said he was unemployed for the first six months then got a job on a cruise ship and went aroung the world, then went to Europe with the traveling company of Hair, did nightclub gigs, studio tapes, fronted a band and finally understudy to the lead in Wicked. Sometimes folks need more than talent, they need a chance to be discovered. Really there are no real amateurs appearing on Idol. Some have experience you don’t know about. As a long time AI watcher it always amazes me what you hear about contestants after they leave the show that you never knew while they were on it. Since I’ve watched since season one, IMO Adam is the most talented, charismatic, Idol contestant ever. He deserves to win.

  94. But I really loved that Cookie was just grooving along as a bartender, Taylor was playing dives and getting discouraged, Fantasia was doing heaven knows what and thenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦..blammo! The break of a lifetime.

    Take a look at the YouTube clip of Adam performing at his High School Graduation. He has blond hair and is heavier, but he has the same amazing vocal range and control — at 18.

    Adam may have theater experience, club experience and vocal training but has no recording experience. As people keep saying, the theater is NOT the same as being a recording artist. Actually, Kris has the most recording experience of the Final 3, I think. Danny (according to his church paster) spent time in Nashville recording studios every week. And, Of this year’s finalists, Alison had the most TV experience.

    Several of the season 7 semi-finalists had previously had record deals, including Kristy Lee Cook, Brooke White, Michael Johns, and Carly Smithson. David Cook released an independent solo album and had finished recording a follow-up PRIOR to his audition for the show, but he was never involved with a record label or contract. Davie A. won the 2004 Star Search and his dad hired a professional staff for him. Taylor Hicks was a professional performer who released his first record in 1997 — 7 years before he auditioned for Idol. I could go on, but …

  95. I guess you are right in many ways, Sarah. I do have to say, though, I loved Innocent last year, but by then I loved David Cook so it didn’t make a bit of difference to me what he sang. I loved everything about him and by that point he could do no wrong. I think there were legions of Cook fans who did not think Innocent was a train wreck, just as there are legions of Adam fans who do not think Ring of Fire was a trainwreck. I’m sorry, but it was still one to me.

    I know lots of fantastic singers in Chicagoland who would give their eyeteeth for a chance to be in the touring company of Wicked. That is not small potatoes. Perhaps Adam has not yet tried any other genre than musical theater until Idol, I don’t know, but with that voice and stage presence do you really think he would not have made it in the music industry without Idol? But maybe you are right. I don’t know. Maybe I am being unfair to him. David Cook tended bar and sang every chance he got, invested his own money and that of his parents into a first album and was going nowhere except the local Tulsa scene prior to Idol. What was Kelly Clarkson doing before Idol? Fantasia? Ruben? Taylor Hicks? Carrie Underwood? Jordan Sparks? Clay Aiken? I don’t think any of them were traveling the country in one of the most creative musicals ever or doing anything else that gave them opportunity to perform before huge crowds all over America. And, I don’t know what else he has done professionally as a singer. In fact, we really don’t know much about him, do we? Where are all of the videos that help us get to know the contestants this year? I felt like David Cook and David Archuletta were my relatives before the final performance night last year. Are they not doing this to prevent any unwanted questions regarding Adam this year, or did I just miss it?

  96. I would argue that Allison has less experience than Danny, as far as we know. According to wiki, she only sang three songs on that Telmundo show. Her package showed her singing at a young age in a mall.

    Danny is a musical director of church and sings in front of people every single week. Yet, he has no clue on how to develop himself as an artist.

    I think Adam made a comment on one of those shows that Allison is like a sponge when it comes to music.

    I really think Danny has always been told he’s the shit, and so he believes it and has an unrealistic view of his own talent. He lacks the same self-awareness that Lil does.

    As for what Idol is about… it’s about discovering a superstar (or so they claim). As long as they are all within the rules of the show, then I can’t fault any of them for previous experience.

  97. And as a devoted Cook fan myself, I think Innocent was a horrible trainwreck. His worst of the season, by FAR. The studio version of it is nice, but the live version – let’s just put it this way. I won’t watch the live version on video because it makes me cringe. I’m not a heartless bitch. I know why he picked the song and I empathize with that. But, in the context of a singing competition, IMO, it was a trainwreck.

    I do not think Ring of Fire was Adam’s best performance, but IMO, it’s not his worst either. So I’m not holding it up as some OMG!Best!Performance!Evah! standard, but I don’t agree it was a trainwreck. So agree to disagree, I suppose.

  98. I don’t see how there is any way that Adam will lose this thing. Someone mentioned upthread that Adam was a professional and so this wasn’t fair to the others. I heard this the year Taylor won.

    I can see this on one level, but it actually is fair because those with more experience are not breaking any rules. I think it can make for a somewhat less suspenseful season as the “professional” is leaps and bounds above the others.

    What does Kris do for a living? Does he play for a living?

    Adam is always going to command the stage better than Danny, for instance, who I just learned today drives a semi trailer for a living.

    Again, I don’t see how Adam can lose.

  99. Adam was a professional and so this wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t fair to the others.

    If that was the case you could eliminate all previous idols who have ever recorded any songs or had an album out.

    There our tons of ways Adam could lose. The big one is he is getting TO MUCH press right now, and Simon didn’t help any. The second one is him being gay, as sick as it is there will be relegious fanatics and some people that might vote for someone to be sure he doesn’t make it. I really think people are under-estamating Kris’s fans. I read somewhere they organized a HUGE American idol task force
    http://www.idolstartv.com/featured-articles/449-kris-allens-hometown-fans-form-massive-american-idol-task-force.html.

  100. JoJosie, Adam is only 26. He must have left home immediately after high school to be in Hollywood 8-9 years. Maybe he did. Have you found some place to learn more about him? I haven’t really seen too much. I know he has fronted a band and toured in the traveling company of Wicked which is a fantastic training ground for a show like Idol where you are in front of hundreds of people on a nightly basis. I don’t think any of the other contestants have anywhere close to that kind of experience. You certainly can’t compare that to being a music director in a church. I don’t mean to take away from his talent though. He is incredible. Again, just not my kind of American Idol. I am voting exclusively for Kris and of course at this stage no one will change my mind or yours. We have picked our favorites. I do think articles and cover pictures like the one on Entertainment Weekly give a huge advantage to Adam. Having Simon go on a nationally syndicated television show and say Adam will win gives him a huge advantage in terms of casual viewers. I feel bad for the other contestants that AI has allowed the hype to go this far this year. It could create backlash against Adam, but only by those who still have a different favorite in the competition and we wouldn’t be voting for him anyway, so I don’t see it hurting Adam, only helping him.

  101. I’ve never been an idol fanatic ever…I voted in the season 2 finale because my mom wanted Clay to win…other than that I’ve only ever seen idol in clips from youtube or on fox reality channel. This year though, I decided I’d give watching it a shot. At first I was a little meh over everything, then, when Adam sang Satisfaction, I was hooked. At that point I barely knew who he was, but I found myself instantly intrigued and interested in all things Adam. I know a lot of people absolutely detested Ring of Fire, but for me, that was the moment I became a die hard Adam Lambert fan. It was just so different, and the guy just has sensuality/sexuality/charisma/etc flying from him in every which way. And to take a johnny Cash song and make me actually want to give it the time of day…i mean wow (I respect Cash, just not a big fan). For me Adam is the ultimate Idol for all seasons (I know this is highly debatable, JMHO). He has a killer stage presence, his vocals are out of this world and despite what Randy jackson may think he comes off (at least to me) as a very humble and grateful person. I originally was rooting for him and Gokey, but as the weeks passed, I could see this shit eating self entitled attitude start to envelope mr hokey. I’m definitely now a Gokey hater, but I gave him a shot at first, he turned me into one…and I know it’s evil, but I hope that Danny has a repeat face plant this week, cause I almost died laughing at Dream On…ADAM FTW!!! (And BTW, I’m still mourning the loss of my dream Adison finale :cry_wp:

  102. I’m a huge Cook fan and so not invested in this year (the boards are so much more fun this year btw). I’d have to say that Innocent was more of a trainwreck than ROF. Innocent had horrible backup singers and a really weird key or octave (dunno) change. I think it was by far Cook’s worst week. I think ROF was sung very well. I can’t say that so much about Innocent. All I know is that DCTR is the only Idol album I’ve ever bought, and I seriously don’t think I’ll buy Adam’s album, but honestly, ROF wasn’t the trainwreck that Innocent was. ROF was, however, a much more polarizing performance. I just don’t have a very high regard for Adam’s tone. I find it lacking any richness and depth. That’s just my opinion and YMMV, but technically I think Adam is a great singer. He just hasn’t made me care.

  103. I hear you, Sarah, and I can agree to disagree. I do think you proved my point about train wrecks though. Innocent was by no means a case where everyone was in agreement that it was a train wreck even though Simon didn’t like it and you agreed with him. Many of us did not. While it wasn’t my most memorable David Cook performance, Innocent was genius compared to Danny Gokey’s Dream On. LOL I still stand by Ring of Fire as a train wreck to me even though some others called it creative.

  104. Oh gingerly, I am so disappointed. From one Cook fan to another, Innocent was to me the best performance of the night on Idols Give Back week. The whole night was a nightmare including the So You Think You Can Dance dancers. I do agree that ring of fire was polarizing. Some people, maybe those who like country music, hated it. Others thought it was creative genius. I was simply one of the former. I thought it was a hideous caricature of a performance, but when Adam Lambert sailed through that week, I thought it was his last chance to be defeated. From that night on I have been sure that Adam will win even though I personally much prefer Kris Allen.

  105. Love Simon for saying what he said on Oprah. And i really want adam to win.

    Even if Simon says what he says, all adam fans should still vote vote vote for Adam. We can’t leave matters to chance. See what happened 2 weeks ago. Would you wan a repeat of that? I surely wouldn’t want to. I CRIED when that happened and promised myself never again. Adam deserves our love and support. Again – VOTE VOTE VOTE!!! Good luck Adam!!

  106. I actually prefer Kris too. I’ll probably even start voting this week (for Kris). I just think that Adam’s performance was vocally very good. I really can’t say David’s was. While I love David’s studio version, I think the best performance of Idol Gives Back week last year was Jason’s Over the Rainbow. I don’t love Adam’s ROF, but I honestly can’t say it was a trainwreck. I truly think if giving points for trainwreckedness, David would score higher It doesn’t make me love David any less or even love Adam at all really. It’s just the way I see it.

  107. LOL I love the word trainwreckedness. Forgot about Castro’s OVer the Rainbow. That was my favorite of his on the tour, too. So okay, ROF was just my personal train wreck for Adam. Hated it. I actually downloaded two of Adam’s songs. Also downloaded two of Allisons. Downloaded all of Kris’s. Hope you will vote. He is going to need all the votes he can get to get to the finals and I think he deserves to be there and he and Adam are a nice contrast. I’m really not sure I wll watch the top two performance night at all if it is a Danny/Adam final, but I’ll watch the finale. I love when they bring past idols back and give the top 10 or 12 a chance to perform again. For whole package, IMHO there will never be another DC, at least not for me and I agree with you it is more fun on the boards this year when you are not nearly so invested in anyone.

  108. I’m not invested at all. I think Kris is much more deserving than Danny is all. I guess Adam will win it all and I’m ok with that because he does have a killer range even if his tone is lacking for me. I really like Kris’s musicality though and how he rearranges songs. My problem with Kris is the same one I had with Jason last year. I think they are only as good as the songs they write and I haven’t seen a hint of stellar songwriting skills from either.

  109. Well, I cannot claim that I am not invested this year (I thoroughly enjoy Adam now), but I was last year and Cook’s Innocent was trainwreck bad, and he churned out a lot of mediocre performances towards the end last year (Hungry Like the Wolf, Dare You to Move). I don’t think Adam’s RoF was a trainwreck since I was not a fan till that performance. I LOVE it and am actually considering going to the tour this year since he claimed he would do that — I say this as someone who who has never gone on tour. Adam’s performance was polarizing, not a trainwreck. Like it was mentioned, it was a 51 on WNTS but it got that as the highest deviation score EVER on WNTS, showing that people had absolutely loved it, as well as being turned off by it. I still think RoF was the greatest thing ever on the Idol stage.

    I am a huge fan of AI, but as a music fan, I am not into anything put out by AI. I actually would consider buying an Adam Lambert album. I say this as someone who is a huge fan of bands that probably don’t even sell beyond the 100,000 mark if they are lucky. I think Adam’s appeal is quite polarizing, but it appeals to even the non-typical AI music buyer. I think that is part of the appeal with him.

  110. I believe Adam said he got the idea from searching the Internet and Dilana said she’d love to perform with Adam. He didn’t do it note for note but very similar. David Cook also used the Internet for ideas and who’s to say Kris and Danny, Allison and everyone else doesn’t too. You can google almost any song and come up with multiple takes on it. They don’t have time for lots of real creativity. My favorite Adam performances are If I Can’t Have You and Born To Be Wild. I watch them everyday along with a few others. I haven’t seen an Adam trainwreck this year yet. Being a Cookie fan I didn’t hear any train wrecks last year just some performances at the end that I didn’t enjoy as much as some previous ones. Not a big fan of Cook’s first album ,evidently the kind of rock he likes is not my favorite. I have it but seldom play it. I’m still a fan however.

  111. apparently sy smith twittered that a judge came to rehearsal today and it was a big deal….its posted over at IDF, but her tweets are blocked now unless your following her…she said that that person sang well and the “whole deck” was impressed with them

  112. It is a forgone conclusion that Adam will win. Not much fun this year.

    It was exactly the same last year, it was going to be one of the Davids. Everybody knew it. If you were a fan of another contestant, you knew your pick had no chance. Jason Castro started singing a year before Idol and sang three or four times in public before going on the show. everyone else has gotten a record deal, had a record, won a talent contest, etc.

    Why is it not fair to the other contestants, they are on the largest platform in the world to get recognition. If Kris leaves on wed., he has been seen by millions of people, he has a chance to do anything, his life is changed forever if he wants it to be. If he can sell records he has just as much chance as the winner or other place finisher of succeeding (see Daughtry) or failing (see Hicks) The only thing he won’t have is the title of “American Idol Winner”

    Adam was a small fish in a very large pond, as he said. Being an understudy in a play does not make you famous. He came into this as “undiscovered” as anyone else.

  113. http://www.prlog.org/10201255-dilana-responds-to-american-idols-adam-lamberts-ring-of-fire-performance.html

    When asked today what she thought of Adam Lambert’s performance from March 17, 2009 of Johnny Cash’s Ring of Fire Dilana responded with, ” I am stoked that Adam Lambert from American Idol chose to use my version of Ring of fire on last night’s episode. It’s an honor knowing that my arrangement and “cashmere” version of the Johnny Cash classic “turned him on” to the point where he wanted to use it on the show.”

    The people in Dilana’s camp also stated that she would love a chance to meet with Adam on the show and do a duet with him.

  114. If you check out Dilanaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s ROF, which is the version Adam copied, you will see it isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t creative on his part.

    Thanks for posting the link, NOLA. I’ve been curious about the inspiration for his performance, but hadn’t got around to seeking it out.

    Seeing it though, I feel that Adam’s version is actually less derivative than I had supposed. He took the Middle Eastern idea and actually went much further with it. If you just listen to her vocal line, ignoring the manner of her singing and gestures, it’s pretty much a straight up rendition of the tune. Adam’s was not at all. Besides the normal sort of ornamentation that you’d expect, he changed modes and, as he usually does, shape shifted the melody quite a bit. I also thought that Minor et al did more to bring out the Middle Eastern flare than this band did, but the audio in that clip is bad enough that I may be unfairly judging that.

    So, it wasn’t his original idea to go Mideastern on it, but he took it much further and in more interesting ways.

    I liken that somewhat to Kris’ take on “Make You Feel My Love” that same night. It’s one of my favorite songs and he did it beautifully, in a way that really suits him. Not only did he not follow the typical country take of Garth Brooks, he also didn’t follow the Dylan original. His take was just about identical to the way Adele sings it. So, not wholely original, but a good jumping off point for something that really suits and brings something new. Given a week to pick, prepare and perform, that’s pretty good and heads above what some of the other contestants are doing.

  115. I didn’t care for Dilana’s ROF so much (or her), but I did love Adam’s version. He did say he found another version when talking to Randy Travis, so he didn’t take credit for it. I agree that he took it to another level than she did.

  116. ShariG Have you found some place to learn more about him? I havenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t really seen too much. I know he has fronted a band and toured in the traveling company of Wicked which is a fantastic training ground for a show like Idol where you are in front of hundreds of people on a nightly basis.

    School: Lambert grew up in Rancho Peà ±asquitos, San Diego, California and attended Deer Canyon Elementary School, Mesa Verde Middle School, and Mt. Carmel High School, where he was in theater, choir, and frequently performed with the school’s jazz band. After High School, Adam went to college in Orange County for 5 weeks but left to pursue an acting/music career in LA.

    Theater: Lambert has been a stage actor since he was about 10 years old; he was cast as Linus in San Diego’s Lyceum Theater’s production of You’re a Good Man, Charlie Brown. 2003: he toured Europe in the musical “Hair”. 2004: he played a part in The Ten Commandments: the Musical at the Kodak Theatre alongside Val Kilmer; play was panned in the reviews but Adam received good reviews (good video of this on YouTube). Most recently, he was the understudy for the part of Fiyero in the touring and Los Angeles casts of the musical Wicked.

    Music: His first job after High School was singing on a cruise ship that went Since 2004 he regularly performs at the Zodiac Show, which was co-created by Carmit Bachar of the Pussycat Dolls. He began performing at the Upright Cafe in late 2006, quickly becoming one of Upright Cabaretà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s all-star performers. (They have a 3′ x 5′ picture of him on the wall now.)

    Here is a great article about Adam’s visit to the Children’s Arts Center, MET2.
    Def worth a look. It gives a really good view of his May 8 visit and what he was like growing up. Caution: It will make all but the biggest haters, love Adam even more!

    http://www.sdnn.com/sandiego/2009-05-11/things-to-do/adam-lambert-returns-to-musical-theater-roots

    Here is a MTV.com piece about Adam at the Zodiak Club. Lot’s of info from his friends.

    http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1609637/20090420/story.jhtml

  117. Ring of Fire took me to a place I had never been. It was a peek into drag queen cabaret. So yea, to me trainwreck. Much more so than Innocent, but alas, I am a Cook fan and cannot be objective when it comes to him. Sigh.

  118. Here is a great article about Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s visit to the Childrenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Arts Center, MET2.
    Def worth a look. It gives a really good view of his May 8 visit and what he was like growing up. Caution: It will make all but the biggest haters, love Adam even more!

    Wow thank you! That is so awesome. I hope they show some of it in his homecoming piece.

  119. Coupla reactions to stuff:

    1) Is Taylor really a failure? His coronation song went platinum, right? (I dont’ remember that stuff well, but I know it sold mucho copies). He is a big attraction touring in a Broadway show. (And, by the way, Constantine Maroulis is nominated for a Tony Award in another Broadway musical.) He has many loyal fans, and will probably be touring again soon with his band. OK, so he isn’t racking up Carrie Underwood numbers, but so what? He’s got a career, and I believe he’s pretty happy about that.

    2) Trainwreckedness is indeed a great word. But I think it implies a certain amount of spectacular failure. This season, I’d give the honors for that to just about everything Megan sang, Danny Gokey’s horrible note last week, and….(add your own here)……Nothing David Cook ever did approached that. He just made a brave but unpopular choice a coupla times. IN other words, he over-reached and he’s human.

    3) I retract what I said about Adam already being packaged, etc. and therefore hooked in. Yes, he’s a pro, but he wasn’t making it bigtime, even if he was touring with a musical. Mea culpa. that is a perfectly honorable living in show biz, it ain’t the big enchilada for anyone who dreams of being a rock star….

  120. Simon only said he is putting his bet on Adam winning. Then proceeds to give the reason why. He did not proclaim him. Thus if Adam makes it to the finale, it will make for a very interesting one.

    I think it’s fair for Simon to let us know his own choice . He is an AI judge and so has to have an opinion, whether we agree with him or not. Its his job to make a judgment call. There is no gag order for AI judges. They are meant to have something to say about the contestants. And we all know by now, that ,Simon and being diplomatic do not belong to the same sentence.

    As to Adam already earning a living from singing , the criteria is clear on the American Idol website for applicants to the contest – No existing record contract and management contract. It did not say THOSE WITH PRIOR SINGING WORK EXPERIENCE NOT ACCEPTABLE.

    I think those who have paid their dues by working their way up as a singer – like Adam, David Cook, Carly, Jason, Kris ,Carrie, Kelly – should deserve a shot on becoming a star. They did not get a break that allowed them to land multi million dollar contracts . American Idol is supposed to be the venue for that break.

    So all those who have the talent , should go for it.

    I like what Adam said- if you have a dream, fearlessly work hard to make it happen.
    Do not be scared.

    I think Tuesday’s show will be exciting. Wednesday’s results will be thrilling.
    And if Adam makes it through to the finale, it will be exhilarating for all of us in my family. I know the big kids and the little kids will most likely flatten the sofa with all the jumping around .

    Good Luck Adam. And America – Adam Lambert Fans thank you very much for the intrepid and tireless voting that you will be doing Tuesday. Thank you!

    Thanks all and have a pleasant Tuesday.

    ( I am not in USA right now and the AI website says the text votes counted will only be from inside USA territories, I don’t know about land line/cable phone votes , the website was not clear on that – but a lady from Brazil said we can vote from outside USA if we place Long distance phone votes . Not sure. Will see. )

  121. Ring of Fire took me to a place I had never been. It was a peek into drag queen cabaret.

    I guess I missed that episode, there was a drag queen episode, and I missed it?

  122. Ring of Fire took me to a place I had never been. It was a peek into drag queen cabaret. So yea, to me trainwreck. Much more so than Innocent, but alas, I am a Cook fan and cannot be objective when it comes to him. Sigh.

    Really? *channeling Allsion* Because I’ve been to my share of drag queen shows and that was not a peek into drag queen cabaret at all. Not sure how to explain the difference, but perhaps you should rent “Paris Is Burning.”

    Oh, and anyone who semi digs the sound the Adam did on ROF should check out Natasha Atlas. Awesome mix of pop, dance, and middle eastern sound.

  123. I also preferred Adam’s rendition to Dilana’s. It is so my favorite. And, Adam totally gives Dilana credit for his RoF arrangement:
    http://vodpod.com/watch/1570607-adam-lambert-top-5-confessional
    It seems like they only explicitly credit the arrangements if it is all brand new by either the contestant or the band. Well, at least Adam seems to give them credit whenever he can grab the time to do so. If all contestants started to credit everyone for all arrangements including the ones already out there on the internet the show would run even longer, no?

  124. Ring of Fire took me to a place I had never been. It was a peek into drag queen cabaret. So yea, to me trainwreck. Much more so than Innocent, but alas, I am a Cook fan and cannot be objective when it comes to him. Sigh.

    Really? *channeling Allsion* Because I’ve been to my share of drag queen shows and that was not a peek into drag queen cabaret at all. Not sure how to explain the difference, but perhaps you should rent “Paris Is Burning.”

    Oh, and anyone who semi digs the sound the Adam did on ROF should check out Natacha Atlas. Awesome mix of pop, dance, and middle eastern sound.

  125. Thanks, TKat. No wonder he is comfortable on the stage. Sounds like he has been on one since he was about 10. Does anyone have that kind of resume for Kris or Danny?

  126. From errin “I know many people who still like Adam, but would consider any one of Ring of Fire, PTFMWB, or Born to Be Wild train wrecks. Especially Ring of Fire. Again, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s all subjective so I think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a stretch to say that Adam has had a perfect run.”

    Erin, Ring of Fire was the most prolific and epic songs that Adam did. And by the way, only Simon did not like it. I loved it. He took a song that was boring (dont like country) and made it into a song that I would buy. That song was a make or break for him and it actually made him. Some may call it a weak showing because they could not believe that he messed with a JC song (some would consider it sacriledge); but what he did was shake things up. That song and his arrangement was talked about for weeks. I do not consider any of his songs trainwrecks. And Born to Be Wild was another Adam Bomb being dropped on the nation. IMHO, Adam has had a perfect run, but for some reason people do not like perfection. It is not Adam’s fault that he has been blessed with phenomenal talent (this is not directed to you). He can only do what he knows to do with the GOd-given talent and that is…BLOW THE COMPETITION AWAY!!! ROCK THE VOTE FOR ADAM ON TOMORROW NIGHT!!!
    Thanks errin, for being my sounding board. Glambert1475 present and accounted for.

  127. I adore Cook (tho much to my sadness I don’t like his first album aside from the awesome Bar-ba-sol). The studio version of Innocent is possibly my favorite studio track of his from all of s7, but I also can’t bear to watch the live performance. It made me wince for him (and also power-vote for the first time to save him). He was flat, hoarse, and the performance going onto the judges’ bench was awkward and not helped along by the terrible white jacket. I am still convinced he had stripped his voice doing the crazy-amazing solo in Shout To The Lord.

    Ring of Fire was a powerhouse vocal performance. I can totally see how someone could hate it (my SO did over here), but it was what Adam intended it to be — the performance was under his control (in a way that Innocent wasn’t), and I would bet that’s why enough people did respond positively to get it that 51 rating on WhatNotToSing.com.

    Which obvs is not scientific, but they do evaluate all the performances the same way and normalize the results so you can to some extent compare across seasons and vaguely objectively. And grading everyone on the same curve, Adam’s the first finalist ever to be throwing a perfect game (no performance scoring below 50), the 4th highest-rated finalist, and the highest-rated guy ever.

    Not, of course, that that should or will change anyone’s personal opinion or invalidate it! Especially since Adam *also* has the highest std deviation of any finalist ever. I just find it fun being a number/stats junkie. :>

    On a separate note, personally, I care about Adam’s experience as much as I cared last year that DC had put out an indie album and had two bands, ie zero. Adam has his experience for the same reason DC had his — because he gave up the safety net of a more prudent career, took a shot on himself, and stayed committed to the artist’s life even when it didn’t work out easily or right away. Adam took even more a risk than DC, since he didn’t even go to college. That’s as deserving of a shot at the bigtime, or more in my book, as someone who walks in off the street with an untrained talent and a dream.

  128. ShariG
    May 11th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
    Sarah, in my opinion Ring of Fire was a trainwreck. On the other hand, Tracks of My Tears was phenomenal. It is all a matter of taste and I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean whether some people have it and others donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t. It is about the kind of music you like and the kind you prefer not to purchase, download, or listen to. Thank goodness there are different genres for different tastes.

    In my opinion, it depends on the overall critiques.

    a lot of people actually became die hard fans of adam because of the ROF performance. so even i dont like the performance personally, i would still rank it as a good performance.

    and with danny’s “dream on” performance, i dont recall it draw any new fans towards danny. and even his die hard fans say it is just an “off” week of danny. so i rank “dream on” a bad performance.

  129. Oh, and anyone who semi digs the sound the Adam did on ROF should check out Natasha Atlas. Awesome mix of pop, dance, and middle eastern sound.

    I was a former belly dancer, so I was quite into Atlas. Plus, I loved Jeff Buckley as a teen and that version had a RoF vibe to it. Maybe that’s why Adam grabbed me with that performance and I never looked back (letting go of my initial fave in the competition).

  130. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQPtfoSvdrY
    Here is the link to a little video of Kris Allen talking about jobs he held prior to Idol. Something about a hardware store and selling frozen yogurt. The video isn’t very good quality, but it is still a bit more background information which is cool.

  131. Erinn, I think thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a vast difference between having a à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“weakà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  performance and having a à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“trainwreckà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  performance. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t deny that Adam hasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t had an à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“omg!showstopping!à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  performance every week, but also, in my opinion, he also hasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t had a trainwreck performance. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s had more great-to-excellent numbers than weak ones, imo.

    I understand what you’re saying, but even internet votes are subjective. I don’t know many irl who actually liked ROF. Some friends were actually angry over it. The ones who did like it? All actors and theatre people. I didn’t hate it, but it wasn’t a good cover for me, and I have no trouble with those who do label it a train wreck. On the other hand, Innocent didn’t bother me so much…not even the hand note thing. YMMV indeed.

    And to join pj, having also seen my share of drag shows, this was not anything near drag. I also love Natacha Atlas, but still didn’t feel this cover.

    My simple point was that it could be argued that Adam hasn’t had a perfect run. Whether you agree with the argument is another thing.

    Also, and this isn’t directed at Sarah, but I’m not sure why there is argument over “if you like this kind of music you like this kind of contestant” stuff. It seems to me that music fans like lots of different genres for lots of different reasons. It always comes down to how an artist touches you, not the style they sing in. Does it matter what you primarily listen to on your ipod? If Adam touches you, then great. If Kris touches you, then great. They both have effected me at different times. Sometimes I think Idol can be a great way to open people up to knew genres if you let it. I hope people do discover Mars Volta, Muse, and The Used as much as I hope they discover Swell Season, The Frames, Jack Johnson, and Donovan Frankenreiter. I think a lot of people discovered Ray Lamontagne in season 5, and probably Imogen Heap in season 6 and that’s just awesome! On the other hand, if Danny touches you…at this point you’re on your own…sorry.

  132. I always get nervous when Simon calls the race before it’s even happened. But he does this every year. He loves to play these mind games with people. I do not take anything for granted and plan to vote my fingers off for Adam this week.

    As far as all this talk about Kris getting thrown under the bus, being toast this week, etc., well all I can say is that they gave him a really good song to sing with Apologize. No sabotage there! If he sings it in a lower key, then it could turn out to be great. The best news is that he gets to choose the second song he wants to sing, so he has some artistic control over it this week. That’s a good thing.

    This is one week when there will not be any excuses. Paula gave Danny a good song for his voice and if Adam is singing One or Wicked Game, either one will be great. All of them should benefit from picking their second song. It’s not like there is this random theme or anything like that.

    As far as what the judges will say, well, that’s always a crap shoot. In the end, who cares! At this point, if you have to listen to the judges to tell you who to vote for, then you haven’t been listening. Simon is the only one who carries any weight or credibility with the viewers. Whatever he will do, he will do. It’s not like we haven’t seen it all before.

  133. Loved ROF, hated Innocent, and love both David Cook and Adam lambert, so I think its okay to like both, and still be objective

    Hope Lambert wins, he’s awesome, Kris will do well post-idol, with a record deal to turn out some good music and bury that cd of candysweet songs he put out earlier(aka…pleasant crap). Danny Gokey is a joke!As a possible winner of AI8, Gokey’s a trainwreck..the tour reviews will be amusing to follow

    I still think any 3 can win at this point, its a close race based on very little singing since Gokey and Allen managed tomake up the Top 3, but I hope Lambert still manages to pull it off despite the odds

  134. As far as all this talk about Kris getting thrown under the bus, being toast this week, etc., well all I can say is that they gave him a really good song to sing with Apologize. No sabotage there!

    He has no excuses this week,none…. and there wont be any buses, except he sucks……

  135. Danny is ridiculous at this point. Comparisons to Taylor? HA! Taylor has soul (yeah, not a joke), knows music, never forgot words, and never had a cringing moment. His “Levon” still rocks that house.

    Kris is like the tortoise. If Adam is the hare, he’d best watch his back.

  136. The only good thing coming out of this if Danny wins, is when they go on tour, that after Adam and Kris sing, everyone can get out, and avoid the traffic, but wait,!! who will be left in there listening to Danny??? :lol_tb:

  137. Chipmunk May 12th, 2009 at 5:14 am

    As far as all this talk about Kris getting thrown under the bus, being toast this week, etc., well all I can say is that they gave him a really good song to sing with Apologize. No sabotage there!

    He has no excuses this week,noneà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. and there wont be any buses, except he sucksà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

    Of course YMMV, I like ice for lunch (lol) and only Simon’s comment was wet (lame) the previous week. Kris has never sucked for me (not even with ASWTDID even though is was his worse night). IMO, Kris arguably was best of night 2/3 times this season but I think since he wasn’t a TCO judges just couldn’t bring themselves to say so.

    As far as the bus goes, I’ll just wait to see what the judges say tonight, regardless of his performance, before I call BUS. However, based on S8 history, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s waiting at the corner.

  138. To Lisa: Thanks for posting the video of Greg Pritchard! He was strange…but talented!

    Wouldn’t it be great if the finalists could just sing without comments from the judges? That way, America can draw their own conclusions? But I know that’s not how the show is formatted.

  139. I think Tuesdayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s show will be exciting. Wednesdayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s results will be thrilling.

    Yes!!! I’m more excited about this week than next!!

  140. Ring of Fire took me to a place I had never been. It was a peek into drag queen cabaret.

    Clearly, whoever wrote this has never been to a “drag queen Cabaret”. It is nothing like Adam’s RoF performance.

    And, I do not think RoF was a trainwreck. Before Rof, I picked Adam to win, but I was once again watching AI as a dedicated, but non-voting veiwer. 20 seconds into RoF, a performance that I never imagined I would see on AI, I was hooked as an Adam fan. And after Black Wednesday, I was converted from a long time viewer into a Adam pwer voter.

    Yes, RoF was a love-it or hate-it performance — and risky. I think it is this kind of risk that made a lot of people into Adam fans. MW just cemented the deal for me. Adam will win, but he’s already a star.

  141. I keep thinking about this media tour that Simon and Randy have been on in the last few days wondering what their game is. Then I asked myself, what are the alternatives? Simon could pick Danny for the win or Simon could pick no one for the win (he’d never pick Kris). If he picked Danny, it only serves to validate those who are saying, “oh, he just had a bad week with Rock Week, he’s got a great voice!” If Simon picks no one, it galvanizes Danny’s and Kris’s fanbases to think, “We’ve got a shot! Adam’s not as strong as everyone thinks!” By picking Adam, Simon is basically articulating what the critics have been saying, and what the polls have shown, i.e. that Adam is not only the best singer/performer up there, he also has charisma, star quality and originality. From reading these boards, it seems the only people who think Adam is a slam dunk are the non-Adam fans who don’t have a horse in this race and shake their heads at the rest of us burning up with paranoia and doubts. I don’t sense complacency on the part of Adam fans and I don’t think Simon’s words will change that. If anything, his words may persuade some people on the fence that Adam is the most deserving of the win, which he is.

  142. “””He has no excuses this week,noneà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. and there wont be any buses, except he sucksà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦”””

    I agree, no excuses but I do not agree that he sucks. I think he has come this far because he does NOT suck – he just has not been WOW except a couple of times and I hope hope hope he brings the WOW tonight

  143. Hey Adam fans, be careful. I never know what Simon’s motives are. We need to power vote tonight as this is I think one of the closest races I’ve seen in a long time. We were positive last year who the two were that were gonna be safe. No one ever thought Syesha would be in the finals. But Kris and Danny have strong fan bases and Adam is from a different type of fan and we need to make it strong. So vote strongly tonight, no safety net around tonight!! Could you see a Kris/Danny sleepfest. Oh my god!!!! I would have to say I’d have my next Tuesday and Wednesday free. My family would be happy!!

  144. “Swagger” is a fascinating word that has taken on a new life in the context of urban/hip hop/rap world which has now entered the more mainstream lexicon.

    The actual definition is : to conduct oneself in an arrogant or superciliously pompous manner ; especially : to walk with an air of overbearing self-confidence.

    However when I use the term myself and I think many use the term just to describe a sexy confidence, a rivetting stage presence, that is a GOOD thing. Certainly a requirement to be a lead singer in any successful rock band.

    Jagger got Swagger for example – Jagger was the King of Swagger.

  145. Gah! I hope Simon is right!

    I really donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know why Adam is considered so polarizing though. Seriously.

    I never got that too. He’s pretty “normal” actually.

    Plus, I loved Jeff Buckley as a teen and that version had a RoF vibe to it.

    I LOVED Ring of Fire (both the studio and performance)! The vocals were spot on that performance. It always amazes why some Americans are freaked out by it. It’s not out of this world.

    I got the Jeff Buckley vibe from Adam on some parts of the studio version of Feeling Good.

  146. I wouldn’t bet my money on what Simon the minion says yet….He was wrong just a few weeks back…Booo Simon. :furious_tb:

  147. Hey Adam fans, be careful. I never know what Simonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s motives are. We need to power vote tonight as this is I think one of the closest races Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve seen in a long time.

    I definitely think we are in for some mind games. I still shiver thinking on last year’s finals where Simon dissed Cookie all night, including outrageously suggesting he would have been better off repeating a song from earlier in the season. Then the next night, Simon did an about face. Beware of the manipulation. I think they have had this all planned since the beginning and they are going to be unleashing it soon. Someone who has been loved is going to get trashed. Someone who has had no love will suddenly be a judges’ darling. It’s coming.

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