Adam Lambert Tussles With a Pap in Miami, Accused of Battery (UPDATE: Miami Police Won’t Press Charges)

2nd UPDATE: The Miami Herald is reporting that Police spokesman Detective Juan Sanchez said police will not press charges. It is up to the pap to take the case to the state attorney’s office.’

UPDATE: Adam tweets a response to the battery charges:

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“Battery? Nope. I attempted to grab a camera, no punches were thrown and no one was on the ground…. It was literally harmless. If embarrassment is a crime- thats all I’m guilty of.”

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Enough was enough was enough. After the paps hounded Adam Lambert on a Miami, Florida beach yesterday, for over an hour,   the glam rocker lost it.  He went after the pap, to try to wrestle the camera away.

TMZ is reporting that the pap Adam went after has filed a police report with the Miami police department. (See the actual report the pap filed HERE.)

Law enforcement sources tell us the paparazzo seen grappling with Lambert on the beach yesterday walked into a Miami Beach police station around 10:30 PM last night and filed a report … accusing the singer of misdemeanor battery.

According to the report, the victim claims Adam grabbed his backpack “where the camera was placed” … and “wrestled [the photog] to the ground forcefully.”

One big problem — in photos that were taken of the incident, the camera appears to be in the photog’s hand … not in his bag.

The police report also notes that the photog didn’t sustain any “bruises or lacerations.”

Detectives are still deciding if  the case is worth turning over to the State’s Attorney, – who will decide whether to prosecute Adam.   If Adam were convicted, he  could face up to one year in jail and a $1, 000 fine.

Geez, people! Adam was only trying to chill on the beach with friends!  But, unfortunately, wearing a fugly hat did not keep him from being recognized.

You can see more photos of the incident at RadarOnline HERE. and even more photos HERE (a couple of members of Adam’s entourage mooned the camera.)

After the altercation, Adam responded via twitter, “They’re real good at provoking, but there ain’t any pics or video of the b.s. they spew out… Haha well… I lost my temper for a sec but wow it felt great lol MIAMI!!!” and “Hahha the photos are hilarious !! Lol please everyone forgive me for that hat. – I was attempting a disguise- clearly failed. Hahah”

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328 Comments

  1. Well, honestly, Adam overreacted. He’s a celebrity and needs to get used to having his privacy violated. It comes with the territory. He shouldn’t have went after the pap

  2. Unless he punched someone in the face or brandished a gun I find it hard to give a crap. LOL

    Oh well, at least he’ll get some publicity out of it.

  3. The pap could have had more than one camera, which was why Adam may have been reaching for the bag.

  4. accusing the singer of misdemeanor battery.

    Battery, as in saying Adam beat him?
    Way to milk it for everything it’s worth….I probably shouldn’t even comment since I am not educated on anything to do with law, I even failed my law class 2 years ago. That just didn’t sound right to me.

  5. Adam is not the first star to get into a ruckus with a pap and won’t be the last. The pictures show Adam going after the photog and obviously the photog wasn’t injured or scared because he was smiling and enjoying himself from the moment it started. The lawyers will take care of the problem and Adam will continue on with his tour.

  6. IMO, the pap is looking for some settlement money.A scumbag is a scumbag is a scumbag.

  7. Adam will continue on with his tour.

    This is my only concern how will it effect his international tour

  8. Adam, Adam….you are now making enough $ to hire a “cool” full time bodyguard to deal with the pap, etc…stay clean & rock on!

  9. This is my only concern how will it effect his international tour

    As long as they don’t send him to jail, there will be no effect.

  10. Battery Charges in Florida

    Simple Battery is a First Degree Misdemeanor punishable by any combination of 1 year in jail, 1 year of probation, or a fine up to $1,000.

    Misdemeanor battery can be committed in one of two ways, either:

    Intentionally touching or striking another person against their will; or
    Intentionally causing bodily harm to another person.
    As you can see, a battery can occur from something minor, such as grabbing another person’s arm; or a battery could also occur by throwing something at a person.

    Importantly though, when it comes to touching or striking a person, there is no requirement that the person be injured – the un-consensual contact is sufficient.

    ETA:
    It is not required for the person to be injured. Even if the charges are not pursuded criminally, the other person can still sue in civil court.

  11. Oh no…This sucks. Leave Adam alone! On the other hand I´m already picturing fans outside on court day showing Adam how much love he gets :)

  12. It takes two to tango. Adam was obviously provoked. The laws in the US are pretty lax when it comes to the paparazzi. They are allowed to harrass the celebrities but the celebrities are not allowed to react? Something wrong with this picture (pardon the pun).

  13. Idiot. And that refers to the scum sucking paps, hate those people, and refuse to look at ther pictures. And Adam for engaging with them, and in such way.

    I do wish the laws of this country were different with regards to paps, but I also wish that people didn’t feel the need to look at what they do. The celebrity culture…sigh.

  14. Having observed Adam’s way of handling things, I’d bet money he asked the guy politely to stop – more than once before ‘losing it.’ If this goes anywhere in the courts, I’m going to be disappointed, but it probably will. Too many people out there trying to get their name in print – including DA’S.

  15. Did the paparazzi presented pictures in which he is smiling all the time? Does it look like a battery?
    This case looks like a joke. Adam’s lawyers will take care of that(if there is ANY case). I only hope that no money will be offered to paparazzi.

  16. I agree Truthiness. I wish the laws of this country were different when it comes to paps. But the problem ultimately lies with the public – the public looks at the pictures. And as long as that continues, the paps will continue to provoke the celebs.

    As for Adam – pretty stupid. His response was dumb, but I don’t think his tweets are going to help the cause any either. “I lost my temper for a sec but wow it felt great”. I would guess his comments could be used in court, if it goes there. I think the pap is looking for a payout though.

  17. marg- he had a bodyguard with him. You can see him in the video MJ posted earlier in headlines. The guy was so big he was probably too slow to make it there in time to intervene. Alot of good he did. Then you have Taylor, who is what? probably 95 pounds soaking wet, there to break it up.

    Now I am ticked. Just because of that SMUG look on his face, you could tell that is EXACTLY what he was going for, and Adam, who seems like a peaceful person most of the time, is the real victim here.

  18. If the suit ever leads up to procecution, the result will be fines and maybe some community hours. And more fame for Adam.

    And thanks for mooning, Tommy. Pretty ballsy for a guy who is always bunched up in full covering clothes.

  19. Having observed Adam’s way of handling things, I’d bet money he asked the guy politely to stop – more than once before ‘losing it.’

    There´s even a picture of Adam giving them the peace sign!. That shows to me that he was being nice at first giving them the picture they wanted. But they can´t go away, can they? Idiots!

  20. Studio57:
    09/17/2010 at 11:02 am
    marg- he had a bodyguard with him. You can see him in the video MJ posted earlier in headlines. The guy was so big he was probably too slow to make it there in time to intervene.

    I´m almost sure that the big one is his bus driver. The bodyguard that I´ve seen in pictures while he was signing outsides venues has a long hair.

  21. Battery, as in saying Adam beat him?

    Ashley Technically, it was a battery. The pap can file a report, but the DA doesn’t need to press charges. My guess is that the DA wouldn’t press charges if the pap has no bruises and was not injured. Also, the pics of the pap laughing throughout the event will not help him.

    Ideally, Adam would have walked away, but I dare any of you to put yourself in Adam’s shoes (being attacked for over an hour on your day off and having no privacy) and say you wouldn’t have done the same thing. I’ve seen good, calm, professional men and women react worse to much lesser provocation. But I hope Adam has learned his lesson that he has to be better than the rest of us, just because he is famous.

  22. Adam’s lawyers will take care of that(if there is ANY case).

    The paps will have lawyers also. It’s a two-way street. The problem now is that other paps will see that they can get under Adam’s skin and they will take their shots to get the same reaction from him.

  23. Oops, block quotes somehow got reversed. I’m usually much better at that. Guess, like Adam, I am not perfect.

  24. I study law, but I’m Slovenian and our law system is completely different. I did take English Legal Terminology last year and I know that American laws can be pretty strange and idiotic. I just hope Adam avoids jail time. That’s all.

  25. Ashley Technically, it was a battery.

    Yea, I understand that now after reading up on it some. Thanks for the info though!

  26. I think the fact that the Pap looks to be laughing at his “assaulter” takes away from the seriousness of the case. I give him a pass on laughing at the dorky outfit but he certainly doesn’t look skeered in any sense of the word.

  27. Adam is not the first star to get into a ruckus with a pap and won’t be the last. The pictures show Adam going after the photog and obviously the photog wasn’t injured or scared because he was smiling and enjoying himself from the moment it started. The lawyers will take care of the problem and Adam will continue on with his tour.

    This.
    It will blow over.

  28. The problem now is that other paps will see that they can get under Adam’s skin and they will take their shots to get the same reaction from him.

    That was my thought. I understand why they’d get under his skin, but it’s blood in the water with them if they know they can get to you.

    Ideally, Adam would have walked away, but I dare any of you to put yourself in Adam’s shoes (being attacked for over an hour on your day off and having no privacy) and say you wouldn’t have done the same thing.

    I wouldn’t. I have zero, zilch, nada desire to be a celebrity. When we thought my brother was going to get a record deal, I told him I was moving to a cabin in the woods and I’d support him behind the scenes, lol.

  29. Studio57:
    09/17/2010 at 11:02 am
    marg- he had a bodyguard with him. You can see him in the video MJ posted earlier in headlines.

    Actually I have been told that is one of the bus drivers not a bodyguard

  30. I give him a pass on laughing at the dorky outfit but he certainly doesn’t look skeered in any sense of the word.

    If that’s the pap’s skeered face… it’s not very convincing ;)

    It will blow over.

    I would hope so. It’s just NOT a big deal.

  31. My thing is why would Adam go on Twitter and admit he lost it, and than laugh and say that there isn’t no videos or pictures to prove it. Can’t that be use against him?

  32. I wouldn’t. I have zero, zilch, nada desire to be a celebrity.

    I have zero desire to be a celebrity too, but I am still able to put myself in his shoes. All I’m saying is that I, and other upstanding, non-celebrity members have been attacked and provoked, and it is harder than some of think to just walk away. And it is not like Adam beat him to a pulp. Seriously, the guy wasn’t bruised or anything, and it appears that Adam was going after the camera more than trying to attack the guy. We don’t know the whole story, and we shouldn’t judge.

  33. Regarding the big burly guy that was with Adam’s party: did anyone verify that it was a “bodyguard?” When I saw that picture, I thought that it might have been Arnie, the bus driver, whom Adam blogged about on his fansite. He looks more like a bus driver than a bodyguard to me.

  34. But, unfortunately, wearing a fugly hat did not keep him from being recognized.

    A guy wearing like that just asks for more attention. Who can not notice the fugly hat? lol

  35. Studio57…obviously Adam needs to re-evaluate his bodyguard choice! I agree Adam has illustrated to the world what a peaceful spirit he is … Aren’t there any laws to protect people from a provocateur?????

  36. My thing is why would Adam go on Twitter and admit he lost it, and than laugh and say that there isn’t no videos or pictures to prove it.

    I think what he was saying is that there are no videos or pictures of what the pap was saying or doing to provoke him, not that there are no pictures of his actions.

    He admitted he lost it because he believes in honesty and has no filter. That I admire. We all lose it at times. He was also frustrated that his day off was ruined by some loser with a camera.

  37. I’m a lawyer. I would 1) be shocked if the states attorney takes the case, highly unlikely, especially since the guy was unharmed and was himself provoking Adam 2) there is not a snowballs chance in hell that Adam does any jail or community service time for this 3) it is unlikely that any civil suit will ever see the light of day 4) the pap is clearly looking to make a quick buck. This is not a big deal

  38. This is my only concern how will it effect his international tour

    I can’t image this having any effect at all.

  39. John Stewart’s *Rally to Restore Sanity* set in Washington in October is sure looking good to me! LOL What a crazy, insane world we live in!

  40. kk613:
    09/17/2010 at 11:22 am
    My thing is why would Adam go on Twitter and admit he lost it, and than laugh and say that there isn’t no videos or pictures to prove it. Can’t that be use against him?

    kk613
    if you read his tweet again Adam said that there is no video of the stuff that the paps say/do to harrasse you to make you lose your temper

  41. “problem is camera appears to be in hand…..”

    maybe he had more than one camera (like a zillion other paps).

  42. mmb:
    09/17/2010 at 11:25 am
    4) the pap is clearly looking to make a quick buck. This is not a big deal

    mmb, thanks for your opinion as a lawyer. And I totally agree with 4).As I said before I hope he will not get any $$.

  43. I posted this on the Adam thread before I saw MJ had another thread for this topic..

    I know I shouldn’t laugh…it’s clearly not a laughing matter but…if Adam were to get community service…seriously….can you picture all the Glamberts turning up to where he would be doing it to snap pictures and give everyone a play by play?

    OMG I see Adam’s hand!! He’s touching the trash bag….
    Adam just went “gross”
    Guys, Adam has rhinestones on his prison outfit!!!

    I’m bad…I know lol

  44. His bus driver? How do people know these things, lol?

    kk613:
    09/17/2010 at 11:22 am
    My thing is why would Adam go on Twitter and admit he lost it, and than laugh and say that there isn’t no videos or pictures to prove it. Can’t that be use against him?

    He had at least three witnesses with him.

    All we need in this world is a shove

  45. sr4mjc:
    09/17/2010 at 11:24 am
    I need to find me a hat like that for tonight’s concert.

    haha DO IT and get him to sign it!!

  46. There are already people on twitter calling out to wear those hats tonight, lol.

  47. I want to see this in the news:” Melbourne, FL. As of today all panama hats were sold-out.”

  48. The pap claims he was wrestled to the ground? Funny how there are play-by-play photos of the whole event but none showing the guy on the ground. I agree the charges will be dropped. I’m sure the DA has much more important cases to spend his/her time on.

  49. haha DO IT and get him to sign it!!

    If I get to Melbourne in time to find a surf shop, I will!

  50. All we need in this world is a shove

    omg Studio your killing me…..LOL

  51. I need to find me a hat like that for tonight’s concert.

    Haha! I am going tonight also. Wouldn’t it be great if everyone was wearing a hat like that? LOL!

  52. The comments over at TMZ are pretty well in favor but the homophobic ones are just so sad I can’t even repeat them here.

  53. kk613:
    09/17/2010 at 11:22 am
    My thing is why would Adam go on Twitter and admit he lost it, and than laugh and say that there isn’t no videos or pictures to prove it. Can’t that be use against him?

    Because he’s innocent of the legal guilt and ramifications

  54. Did the paparazzi presented pictures in which he is smiling all the time? Does it look like a battery?

    As someone said above, if you look at the definition in the Florida statute, what he did was technically a battery. However, the authorities can investigate, look at the pictures and just decide that it’s so minor that they are not going to waste government resources on it.

    I think the main problem area for Adam is his tweets. The police/DA may not like it that a person (a celebrity, no less) is publicly telling people about how he lost his temper (and battered another human being) and how he felt “great” about it. They may feel that it sends a bad message if a person who is publicly unremorseful (and actually a little gleeful) for committing a crime does not get prosecuted. I know that’s not strictly what Adam meant in his tweet, but the tweets can take on a life of their own and make things worse for Adam.

  55. I know he signed up for this and he’s dealt with the press with an amazing amount of grace so far. But he is just a man and he can only be “on” so many hours of the day. Everyone needs down time. But when your down time is spent being antagonized by the press–well, I can see how he lost it. I’m sure they weren’t politely asking a few questions and then getting out of his face. In fact, we have no idea the kind of crap they were spewing.

    The photographer looks very happy with the situation. I think it was the reaction he was hoping for while his buddy took pictures.

    It would be hilarious if everyone showed up at his concert with big floppy hats on, wouldn’t it?

  56. mmb:
    09/17/2010 at 11:25 am

    I’m a lawyer. I would 1) be shocked if the states attorney takes the case, highly unlikely, especially since the guy was unharmed and was himself provoking Adam 2) there is not a snowballs chance in hell that Adam does any jail or community service time for this 3) it is unlikely that any civil suit will ever see the light of day 4) the pap is clearly looking to make a quick buck. This is not a big deal

    This.

  57. Of course the photographer went to the police. I was shocked when people yesterday were so certain that he wouldn’t. Adam probably won’t be charged because of his celebrity status and because the act was not very malicious, but sorry it is battery. I would hope Adam’s publicist would get to him today to have him make a release apologizing for losing his temper and denouncing his use of physical force. Like I said yesterday, the paparazzi were in the wrong, but so was Adam, and putting your hands on someone else is never excusable.

  58. I think the main problem area for Adam is his tweets. The police/DA may not like it that a person (a celebrity, no less) is publicly telling people about how he lost his temper (and battered another human being) and how he felt “great” about it. They may feel that it sends a bad message if a person who is publicly unremorseful (and actually a little gleeful) for committing a crime does not get prosecuted. I know that’s not strictly what Adam meant in his tweet, but the tweets can take on a life of their own and make things worse for Adam.

    This would be unfortunate, but possible in this case.

  59. I’ll be seeing Lambert front row tonight in Melbourne, and then i got free tix saturday to see him in tampa….im thinking about body painting “Fuck Papparazzi” on my chest…any other ideas?

  60. LoL i just read the above comments- im totally gunna look4 one of those hats

  61. I’d thought I’d give a truncated version of my original post here.

    I am simply flabbergasted that there have been comments of he deserved it so it’s okay considering who Adam Lambert is, a gay individual. Many homosexual people have been abused and persecuted because people thought they deserved it not only gay people but black people Jewish people, individuals of different religions and ethnicities because different individuals disagreed w/ their behaviors so they deserved whatever they got. That type of belief shouldn’t be encouraged shouldn’t be championed.

    Anyway no hands on others no good can come of it 1) Adam could of hurt the guy 2) broke his equipment 3) could get sued regardless if its for a small amount charges are charges 4) could lose fans from this 5)bad press.

    Oh and here’s an additional comment people saying that the pap reporting his attack would make him a worse person. I can not abide by that belief if someone puts their hands on you report it no one has that right and it’s their character that is reflected not yours.

  62. Batteries occur every day that go unreported. Have you ever been to a general admission concert? Lots of technical batteries there, but generally no one reports it. The pap was laughing, Adam appears to have been going after the camera, I see a battery, but not much “force.” If he was injured, why did he wait hours to go to the police, why didn’t he seek treatment from a medical profession? I think this is being blown out of proportion.

    Anyway, love the hat. People, get one but glam it up a little.

  63. I don’t think any of the true fans are gonna stop going to his tour shows just because of the what’s going on with this scumbag paparazzi. We all know what a great guy he is & that people make mistakes and will continue to be loyal fans, even after all of this happened.

    He is always telling us all to love one another and not cause violence or hurt others. I don’t think he would hurt anyone. I honestly believe that he was just trying to get the guy’s camera and make him stop taking photos. I don’t think he just went off on the guy for no reason. I am sure he was provoked and just lost his temper. I have a bad temper sometimes and know that a person can only take so much before they blow up. Give Adam a break, everyone. Think of what you would do in the situation. For all we know, the man may have been rude or insulting to Adam and his friends. I commend him for standing up to the guy.

  64. I’ve never seen anyone manage to shoot themselves in the foot on a daily basis like Adam. He is his own worst enemy. I thought he was going to bring his mom on board to help manage his career-too bad he doesn’t listen to her. Like it or not, he’s not the anonymous club boy anymore. There are consequences to what you do when you’re a public person. plain and simple. I’ve never had the impression that Adam values criticism, or acknowledges it. If he refuses to consider other points of view, considering some of the things he says and does, then he will never learn from his misjudgements. And the shit storms will get worse and worse.

  65. if Adam were to get community service…seriously….can you picture all the Glamberts turning up to where he would be doing it to snap pictures and give everyone a play by play?

    OMG I see Adam’s hand!! He’s touching the trash bag….
    Adam just went “gross”
    Guys, Adam has rhinestones on his prison outfit!!!

    Agree Linsmile. This is exactly how the scenario would play out, in my opinion, of course. My question is, how is this any different from the paps? Both groups are objectifying (assuming the paps are; pretty sure the fans are) and both groups are taking pictures of him at a time when he would rather not have pictures taken. Kind of like people who follow celebs from venues to hotel rooms etc. I don’t care what Kara Diowhatsis says, there are boundaries.

  66. im happy he get pictured for (2)reason:first he can fix hes style next time going out as hes glam rockgod style that i love.second to watchout hes actions.
    thats not good for him,as hes working for hes second album and his fame because his fan most are from AL not like katy pery or other celebrity that have huge fanbase than adam.

  67. We’ve all been here before with multiple celebrities/Idols. This will be in the news cycle for a day or 2 and then everyone will move on. Nothing will happen, no revenue lost, no fan exodus. Its nothing. Tomorrow we’ll be talking about Lindsey Lohan again.

  68. sr4mjc:
    09/17/2010 at 11:24 am

    I need to find me a hat like that for tonight’s concert. :)

    The best reaction!

  69. and putting your hands on someone else is never excusable.

    Sure, it can’t be right, no excuse for this kind of behavior.
    And the hat..no excuse for the hat.

  70. Studio, that was a really good laugh. I’m trying to finish the first part of the song.

    So I got no boots on
    Got the wrong type of hat on
    And I’m wearing this tank
    With some bright colored shorts on
    Paparazzi attacks
    When I look so disastrous
    All we need in this world is a shove.

    Also, to that paparazzi, if you and your smiling face file charges, I will see you in Hell. I will look down on you from Heaven and pity your poor soul.

  71. This is exactly how the scenario would play out, in my opinion, of course. My question is, how is this any different from the paps?

    It isn’t…that’s my point! ;-)

    I’ve never seen anyone manage to shoot themselves in the foot on a daily basis like Adam. He is his own worst enemy.

    I know right? His career is just tanking all over the place. I mean the sold out shows here and internationally. What does he have planned next?

  72. I don’t think Adam tweeting about the situation is of any importance. If he was accused of murder, rape, or dealing drugs, then tweeting wouldn’t have been a smart thing to do, but all he did was get into a scuffle with a pesky photog. I can certainly understand Adam blowing up at the photog. For anyone who had been harrassed by anyone, whether a spouse, fellow co-worker, school room bully or ex-boyfriend/girlfriend, can understand being pushed to far that you explode.

  73. I know right? His career is just tanking all over the place. I mean the sold out shows here and internationally. What does he have planned next?

    Does this mean his two years of “fifteen minutes of fame” is about up?

  74. But when your down time is spent being antagonized by the press–well, I can see how he lost it.

    Reminds me of a Daughtry track that the label will never have the b*lls to release: “can i be so bold?, cause this sucking up to you is getting old…I know I said I said I’m sorry, but that’s not what I meant to say.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NzqgRoRJWw

  75. well Adam tweeted but I think he’s technically wrong and morally right.

  76. On Friday 17th September 2010, @adamlambert said:
    Battery? Nope. I attempted to grab a camera, no punches were thrown and no one was on the ground…. It was literally harmless. If embarrassment is a crime- thats all I’m guilty of.

    well here is more ammo for some

  77. well here is more ammo for some

    Yeah…I don’t think that was one of his smarter tweets

  78. I don’t believe for a moment that this is anything but a publicity stunt. Adam is in Miami in a ridiculous outfit and loves the publicity more then perhaps anyone but Heidi/Spencer. I guess there was no one on the beach to suddenly make out with for the photographer to shoot with so he graps the photographer for something to make the rags print something of him.

  79. So I got no boots on
    Got the wrong type of hat on
    And I’m wearing this tank
    With some bright colored shorts on
    Paparazzi attacks
    When I look so disastrous
    All we need in this world is a shove.

    jammasta, let’s continue, shall we?

    There’s a thin line between the shore line and the pap line, baby tonight.
    We’re gonna tussle, gonna rumble, tryin to find it

    But pap, if I get you, that will be the last pic that you ever take……….

  80. Tomorrow we’ll be talking about Lindsey Lohan again.

    Oh hey .. I heard she got back together with her girlfriend, Samantha whatsherface. LOL

  81. Why would the pap say that he was “wrestled to the ground”? Didn’t he know that his paparazzi “friends” would get photos of the whole thing and none of the photos I’ve seen show him on the ground. I mean, file a report by all means, it’s your right, but why not stick to the facts.

  82. bridgette12:
    09/17/2010 at 11:56 am

    I don’t think Adam tweeting about the situation is of any importance. If he was accused of murder, rape, or dealing drugs, then tweeting wouldn’t have been a smart thing to do, but all he did was get into a scuffle with a pesky photog. I can certainly understand Adam blowing up at the photog. For anyone who had been harrassed by anyone, whether a spouse, fellow co-worker, school room bully or ex-boyfriend/girlfriend, can understand being pushed to far that you explode.

    ITA! I also don’t think it’s significant that he tweeted since there was already play-by-play photo evidence of the event. It’s visually obvious that he lost his cool — and I don’t blame him for thinking it felt good! No one should have the right to continue invading privacy and taking photos after being asked not to do so. I just hope the pap doesn’t get “rewarded” in any way for being a sleazebag slimeball.

  83. Team Adam!

    On my way to Melbourne! I’m not skeered of the crazy guy in the hat.

  84. No one should have the right to continue invading privacy and taking photos after being asked not to do so.

    And no one has the right to put their hands unwanted on someone else.

  85. If I were going to his show tonight, I would be tempted to get a group together to dress like Adam in those pix from yesterday. I think they would get a big laugh out of him. I hope they all show him our support too, he is gonna need it after all this crap.

  86. How about a counter-suit for harrassment? Sorry folks but if tax dollars are going to be spent on some scumbag “photographer” lawbreaker (and harrassment is NOT legal) because they didn’t get enough fame in the photos that they took then I’m movin’ to Canada eh.

  87. Oh hey .. I heard she got back together with her girlfriend, Samantha whatsherface. LOL

    NO! Run, Samantha, RUN!!!!!!! LOL

    Jammasta, I luvs you.

    So, I have to leave now. But I have a request. Can y’all please engage in some well deserved snark over the outfit? Pretty please? He can’t go out on the beach dressed like Cabana Betty White’s head on Jughead’s body and not have it get snarked on. He already started it himself! How you gonna go all ninja grandma on us and we can’t make jokes? And I didn’t even mention the pasty legs. It must be done. Do it, people. Do it.

    P.S. Turquoise shorts folks. TURQUOISE SHORTS. ‘Nuff said.

  88. Yeah…I don’t think that was one of his smarter tweets

    Me either. Why haven’t his lawyers put a gag order on him?

  89. gangreen29:
    09/17/2010 at 11:41 am

    Of course the photographer went to the police. I was shocked when people yesterday were so certain that he wouldn’t. Adam probably won’t be charged because of his celebrity status and because the act was not very malicious, but sorry it is battery. I would hope Adam’s publicist would get to him today to have him make a release apologizing for losing his temper and denouncing his use of physical force. Like I said yesterday, the paparazzi were in the wrong, but so was Adam, and putting your hands on someone else is never excusable.

    AS one of the people discussing this with you last night I think my main issue is yes I agree Adam handled the situation poorly but why is the Paps guys behavior not considered inexcusable too. Like I said yesterday Adam was in a catch 22 if he did as some suggest and ignored or walked away thereby having to have his down time ruined and then went to the police and pressed charges because of the harassment my guess he would have been taken to task for doing it. It would be said that this is what comes with celebrity. That he is a big baby blah blah. I find that to be a total cope out. Talk about not taking responsibility. Paps go over the line Period. Again Adam gave them time He graciously posed for pictures and talked but then asked for the Paps guy to please stop and leave to give him the time with his friends. The paps guy refused, Adam got pissed. Celebrities are human and have feelings and maybe sometimes don’t always handle things that well. Again Adam handled this poorly but again the paps guy was WRONG. Adam is not some lunatic quick tempered guy who lashes out all the time either.

    This is a farce. Plain and Simply. They guy was not hurt, nothing was damaged and there really was no reason to go to the police except to squeeze as much from this as he can. Paps guy will get his time in the spotlight for sure. Adam I think will actually get some people to view him in a different light. (Pro and con) I wish he was able to come at this differently and did file charge at the Paps guy instead of going physically after him. BTW you can see in the pics Adam avoids hitting him. If he was really looking to “hurt the guy” he had many clear opportunities to punch or slap the guy in the head and body.

    Anyway will see where this goes. I don’t think it is a serious as some think but also not nothing either. I bet he will have to do some PSA for Anger or something. IMHO

  90. There oughtta be a way to sue the pap for harassment. Adam has always been willing to let peeps take a few pics and has always handled such situations very well in the past. Since this pap obviously must have really pushed it to provoke Adam, it seems to me that he went beyond acceptable behavior and into harassment. I would think the DA would consider that too. I love me some Alpha Adam.

  91. Has Adam apologized for his actions?

    You mean for his outfit? only for the hat!

  92. jenipop:
    09/17/2010 at 12:11 pm
    If I were going to his show tonight, I would be tempted to get a group together to dress like Adam in those pix from yesterday. I think they would get a big laugh out of him. I hope they all show him our support too, he is gonna need it after all this crap.

    And when he´s singing YOU ARE NOT ALONE in Aftermath everybody should wave their hats in the air so he knows he´s not embarrassed by himself! :)

  93. “Battery? Nope. I attempted to grab a camera, no punches were thrown and no one was on the ground…. It was literally harmless. If embarrassment is a crime- thats all I’m guilty of.”

    But..If he had successfully grabbed the camera and took possession of it wouldn’t that be felony theft since it would have been by force?

  94. P.S. Turquoise shorts folks. TURQUOISE SHORTS. ‘Nuff said

    I lIke his shorts :( I mean if you put it along with a white t-shirt it would be THE BOMB! :)

  95. But..If he had successfully grabbed the camera and took possession of it wouldn’t that be felony theft since it would have been by force?

    i have no idea. that’s too deep for me. I’m still lol’ing at the hat!

  96. The world we live in is a strange one. Every altercation is a crime. What is wrong with a no harm, no foul situation? The smiling pap was completely uninjured with no scratch, no bruise, no anything. You could see from the picture that he got a kick out of it. Why are folks here reacting like Adam hit him with a baseball bat?

    Until you have been harrassed, even a little bit, you can’t imagine how hard it is. The guy looked like he was out for trouble big time. Adam snapped, but didn’t hurt him. Let it drop. I bet the police will do just that.

  97. So this is everywhere now….FoxNews has it. One thing they keep saying;

    One big problem — in photos that were taken of the incident, the camera appears to be in the photog’s hand … not in his bag.

    The police report also notes that the photog didn’t sustain any “bruises or lacerations.”

    At least this constant refrain makes the photog dude look like the jerk.

    Edited to fix quote…

  98. So I got no boots on
    Got the wrong type of hat on
    And I’m wearing this tank
    With some bright colored shorts on
    Paparazzi attacks
    When I look so disastrous
    All we need in this world is a shove.

    There’s a thin line between the shore line and the pap line, baby tonight.
    We’re gonna tussle, gonna rumble, tryin to find it

    But pap, if I get you, that will be the last pic that you ever take…

    Yeah…when I get you, no more money will your sorry ass make……

  99. Of course the photographer follows Adam on twitter.

    I don’t know why I find this so funny.

  100. There’s a thin line between the shore line and the pap line, baby tonight.
    We’re gonna tussle, gonna rumble, tryin to find it

    But pap, if I get you, that will be the last pic that you ever take……

    ….I’m having a writer’s block right now. I’ll try something and hope it works. And I’m terrible at rhyming, the verse rhymes kinda.

    If I get you, we will all be celebrating at your wake.
    If I get you, we will have a party it’d be ecstasy,
    Yeah if I get you, you y y-y-y you, you, y y-y-y you, you, y y-y-y you, if I get YOU.

    Second verse! Um. Start it.

    Also, woohoo learned a new definition for wake as a viewing for the dead!

    And when he´s singing YOU ARE NOT ALONE in Aftermath everybody should wave their hats in the air so he knows he´s not embarrassed by himself! :)

    You deserve a flipping medal, that is brilliant idea.

    I think I might also dress as Beach Bum Lambert as Halloween. Someone did tell me I should be Adam Lambert for Halloween, and until now (Actually, until I saw one of his awesome jackets), I said no…..

    Question, how many more comments do you think there would be if Adam were wearing ONLY the hat and the shorts?

    Okay, more on topic. I really wish there were a way to sue the pap. Is there one? Or to make paps illegal, but I dunno if that violates freedom of the press or anything.

  101. I lIke his shorts I mean if you put it along with a white t-shirt it would be THE BOMB!

    I agree.

  102. P.S. Turquoise shorts folks. TURQUOISE SHORTS. ‘Nuff said.

    Adam just proved that he is a typical male. Once they get attached to some pieces of clothing (ridiculous or not) there is no way in the world that they will let it go. I am speaking from a long time experience…

  103. pattycake:
    09/17/2010 at 12:04 pm
    I don’t believe for a moment that this is anything but a publicity stunt. Adam is in Miami in a ridiculous outfit and loves the publicity more then perhaps anyone but Heidi/Spencer. I guess there was no one on the beach to suddenly make out with for the photographer to shoot with so he graps the photographer for something to make the rags print something of him.

    Let me see, Adam who has been been on tour for over three months to sold out crowds and heading overseas to do concerts and meet fans who have been waiting a long time to see him, decides that he desperately needs more attention, so he pretends to be upset with a photogapher, who is already taking his pictures alone with several other photographer. For anyone who have to travel for a living or spend months away from your family, you appreciate the time away from work and you want to relax. That’s what Adam was doing, relaxing and enjoying not being on stage or being overwhelmed by excited fans. He didn’t go there looking to get into a fight with a rude photographer.

  104. When I first saw these photos it looked totally staged to me. Both the photographer and Adam are smiling and laughing in them all.

    I hate the paparazzi. They stalk any perceived celebrity and intentionally provoke reactions. With that said, I really don’t think Adam should have touched him. He opened himself up here for a lawsuit.

    I find it doubtful that criminal charges will be filed against Adam by the DA, but there’s nothing to stop the idiot from filing a suit against him in Civil court. Of course, his police report doesn’t match the photographic evidence of the event.

  105. yeah, oksana- i am pretty sure he wore the turquoise shorts before. It’s like that damn black tie dyed shirt he wears.

  106. everything he wears in pic is ugly at least he learn from tommy.stop defending him,he have to learn how to act.first his amas which make his album flop now this.
    whats next?getting naked!all his younger fan is gone only grandmother is left.he could be huge to a stardom at once but no ruin evrything by his action at least learn from soibhan magnyus.

  107. over the past 24 hours in the city of Miami and its suburbs there have likely been numerous burglaries, rapes, instances of domestic abuse, drunk driving accidents, murder, attempted murder, drug deals, and altercations that have resulted in actual personal injury and/or property damages. I really don’t think that the Miami police/state’s attorney are interested in using their scarce resources to pursue a misdemeanor battery charge in a case where there was no personal injury whatsoever, and where there was no property damages whatsoever. Technical legal batteries happen hundreds (or more) times a day in every city in every state. Even where there are police reports filed, the vast majority never result in actual charges being filed. This will all blow over in 24 hours.

  108. I find it doubtful that criminal charges will be filed against Adam by the DA, but there’s nothing to stop the idiot from filing a suit against him in Civil court.

    the pap likely filed the police report as a prerequisite to a civil suit. however, any civil suit will likely be thrown out, and even if it isn’t thrown out the only damages the guy could recover are REALLY REALLY de minimis….a few thousand dollars, if that even. Again, he is just looking to make a quick buck off of this.

  109. Studio57:
    09/17/2010 at 12:43 pm
    yeah, oksana- i am pretty sure he wore the turquoise shorts before. It’s like that damn black tie dyed shirt he wears.

    Turquoise shorts – Cabo, wife beater top – NOLA and other places.
    On his off time he can wear what he goddamn please..IMHO

  110. I wonder if the pap and the police were able to keep straight faces at the station when he gave the description of who roughed him up.

    “A tall, flamboyantly gay man in his late 20’s, wearing a bonnet, flip flops and turquoise kulats, dashed towards me and started grabbing at my bag while I was taking pictures of him.”

  111. mquincy:
    09/17/2010 at 12:47 pm
    [detective] Sanchez said police will not press charges. It is up to Eras to take the case to the state attorney’s office,’ he said.

    Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/09/17/1829559/adam-lambert-accused-of-attacking.html#ixzz0zo2qnyYo

    no state attorney’s office would waste their time with this. Assuming the quote is correct, its over. No doubt the guy will bring a civil suit, which, as i said above, will either be quickly thrown out of settled for a few thou at the most.

  112. Adam didn’t do and probably isn’t even capable of doing to this low-life vermin paparazzi what he deserves. With any luck, he’ll eventually run across somebody who will teach him a lesson he won’t soon forget.

  113. I still think it had to be something very vile that the pap said to Adam about Adam or his friends. Not just “go away…and let me enjoy my time”.

    And the turquoise shorts…think they were worn the first time in LasVegas when they played there.

  114. So now we now name of the scumbag: Victor Eras
    Victor, if I were you I would go into hiding..there is no wrath like pissed off Glambert…. :-)

  115. Poor Adam. Not what he needs or wants to be dealing with at the moment. Ok, Adam overreacted and should have kept his hands and feet to himself, but I hate hate hate that the paps can get away with the provocation and harassment that they dish out.

    I find myself wondering why hotel security wasn’t brought in to chase the paps away sooner. I wonder if anyone in Adam’s group went to get help from hotel security, and whether the hotel security even has the authority to force someone to leave their guests alone if they’re on a public beach.

    I’m also betting that the whole incident lasted all of 10-15 seconds, if that. There are several pictures, but those pap cameras can take a lot of shots in a very short amount of time.

    I’m very curious to see what Adam says or doesn’t say at the concert tonight, and what the crowd might do to show their support. I love the idea of wearing the hats!

  116. ^. Yep. No DA wants media that he/she is pressing charges when the police found no reason to press charges. DA’s like to stay in good graces with the police force.

  117. I know it’s too much to ask for but I hope the fans stay the heck out of this.

  118. E! has the police report posted. No new info, other than Adam’s height and weight estimated at 5’10” and 180 lbs…no way. My husband is the same height as Adam, 6’1″, and has a similar build (skinny legs and all), he weighs 165.

  119. Thanks for posting the Miami Herald report, mquincy. Really relieved to see that the police aren’t going to press charges. Ridiculous situation.

    And mmb — thank you so much for providing your calm, professional lawyerly opinions on the matter. I appreciate your perspective on this very much.

  120. so adam should be fine. police are not pressing charges. just the fashion police lol

    That didn’t take long.

    I know it’s too much to ask for but I hope the fans stay the heck out of this.

    Most will but you know there are probably a couple that wont.

  121. “A tall, flamboyantly gay man in his late 20’s, wearing a bonnet, flip flops and turquoise kulats, dashed towards me and started grabbing at my bag while I was taking pictures of him.”

    ROFL! Although I think it’s spelled “culottes,” it’s French.

  122. Free Adam! hahhahahaha
    Lyndsey Parker just made me hit the floor from laughing

  123. negativo:
    09/17/2010 at 12:49 pm

    I wonder if the pap and the police were able to keep straight faces at the station when he gave the description of who roughed him up.

    “A tall, flamboyantly gay man in his late 20’s, wearing a bonnet, flip flops and turquoise kulats, dashed towards me and started grabbing at my bag while I was taking pictures of him.”

    ROTFLMAO….. Though respectively disagree with the flamboyantly. I think it should be….. a Tall, handsome Gay man in his late 20’s, wearing a hoary Floridian styled outfit that consisted of a bonnet, Flip Flops and Turquoise culottes that only the senile would wear charged towards me and started grabbing at my bag while…… :mrgreen:

  124. ….and putting your hands on someone else is never excusable.

    Really? Never? Hmmmm, I can think of lots of times when it’s excusable.

  125. ok I have sushi dinner with friends but I can´t miss tonight´s show. Does anyone know what time it starts?

  126. tuti:
    09/17/2010 at 12:43 pm

    everything he wears in pic is ugly at least he learn from tommy.stop defending him,he have to learn how to act.first his amas which make his album flop now this.
    whats next?getting naked!all his younger fan is gone only grandmother is left.he could be huge to a stardom at once but no ruin evrything by his action at least learn from soibhan magnyus.

    There are so many factual inaccuracies in this post, that it boggles the mind.

    negativo:
    09/17/2010 at 12:49 pm

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA :D Your description is hilarious!

  127. google went from about 20 news articles to 90 on this incident already this afternoon

  128. renataamelo: 09/17/2010 at 1:11 pm ok I have sushi dinner with friends but I can´t miss tonight´s show. Does anyone know what time it starts?

    8:00pm EST

  129. tati1120: RT @jambajim: @adamlambert Hang in there, man. At the very least I now have a killer Halloween costume. That hat & those shorts: dream come true.
    less than a minute ago via

  130. thats fact,he dont use his brain most of time,which annoys me.its a truth what i wrote,he have to stay out of trouble,im his fan but on other people dont know him hes nasty,fag bad name used for him and that makes me angry.
    hes have to focus on his concert and music.i almost had shock by the news.tommy look better than adam in this pic.to me adam loosing hes fashion scense.

  131. Studio57:
    09/17/2010 at 1:22 pm

    tati1120: RT @jambajim: @adamlambert Hang in there, man. At the very least I now have a killer Halloween costume. That hat & those shorts: dream come true.
    less than a minute ago via

    Jim C is so funny sometimes….. LOL

    Studio57:
    09/17/2010 at 1:23 pm

    HAHAHAHAHA! The GLAMFATHER:

    http://twitpic.com/2p9o4e

    Hysterical …… I was thinking along those lines last not only with Stallone and Adam as “Glambo!” :lol:

  132. That look on Taylor’ face in that pic is even better though, dhunken. He looks like a stone cold killer, lol.

  133. tuti,
    The “facts” I was referring to were your assertion that his album is a flop and that the only people who attend his concerts are grannies. You seem to not have paid any attention to either his album sales, which are quite respectable, or to any of the pictures of attendees at his concert. The implication that he has “ruined” his career is laughable, given the way his concerts have been selling out, both in the US and internationally.
    As to the rest, it’s pure personal opinion – yours is about as far from mine as it’s possible to get, but each to his own. As a fan, I find him charming, intelligent, incredibly patient and kind with the press, occasionally impulsive, unbelievably open and honest, and incredibly good looking and sexy. His actions with the scum paparazzi weren’t his most admirable moment, but I have total sympathy for why he reached that point, given the way he is pushed by those bottom feeders.

  134. So adam should be fine. police are not pressing charges. just the fashion police lol/blockquote>

    LMAO

  135. jammasta, Studio57, and christyo — I’m loving the IIHY rewrite so far! Keep going!

  136. aislinn– I loved your post, and agree with everything you said. Every word. :-)

  137. Tuti, because someone uses a derogatory name to call Adam names, doesn’t mean you need to bring it here. Its upsetting.

  138. cwm:
    09/17/2010 at 1:38 pm

    aislinn– I loved your post, and agree with everything you said. Every word. :-)

    That goes double for me….. Bravo!!!!

  139. Is this a publicity stunt? IDK I’m having a hard time with taking this seriously. LOL!

  140. All you need to have committed common law battery is to put your hands on someone intentionally and without their permission. But no reasonable D.A. is going to prosecute that (even if Florida law allowed for it) without some harm or seriously scary behavior. Here’s the deal, Folks: The paps WANT celebs to put their hands on them. It’s hard selling pictures, and it’s easier to sell the pictures when someone has put their hands on you. And, of course, civil court case is where the real money is. Unfortunately for this pap, there was no harm, so he hasn’t got a civil case.

  141. it is really disgusting that people trying to relax and not drawing any attention to themselves whatsoever can be harassed in such an awful manner :(
    and lulu2, you are totally right – they are looking for a fight just to squeeze more money out of their photos….. scum

  142. Aww, thanks guys! I’m really happy the police in Miami showed common sense in this case and declined to pursue it. The notion that it was worth pursuing was ridiculous – this pap’s just looking to make money off his own bad acts.

  143. Studio57:
    09/17/2010 at 1:29 pm

    That look on Taylor’ face in that pic is even better though, dhunken. He looks like a stone cold killer, lol.

    He does doesn’t he. :-) Who would have thought he is really the quite one from the tour. Even Tommy is more vocal and he barely speaks. LOL

  144. The person that faces charges is the guy that filed the complaint against Adam,according to the police report, that guy said that Adam tried to take his camera out of his bag,BUT, the pictures clearly show that the camera was in his hands and not in his bag. This guy that complained about Adam had to sign the police report, on the bottom of the police report in fine print it clearly states that lying on the police report is a crime punishable by a fine and 90 days in jail. That picture supports what Adam said happened and shows that the paps lied to the police, they also could charge the paps with stalking.

  145. I love Adam, but I do think that the time has come when he can no longer go to the public beach and not be bothered. Just because he is in a group will not stop them.

  146. @Tuti, honey, sorry to tell you this, but what with the police rejecting the pap’s claims and what with photos that show the pap grinning throughout the alleged assault, the pap doesn’t have a leg to stand on.

    You’ll have to wait a while for Adam to go to prison. Sorry.

  147. Look who cares what the pap said that’s all it is words Adam got physical. He might of just been trying to take the camera but he put his hands on him the pap was running away and Adam chased him down and put his hands all over him grabbing and pulling him.I mean someone had to pull Adam off the guy. Who cares if the camera started in his bag or not the picture tells the tale Adam is all over him. Scumbag or not you can’t touch em. Dislkie what he says or not you can’t touch him. Why is this a funny situation. Just b/c someone is a nice guy like Adam and didn’t mean any harm doesn’t mean you write off anything they do wrong when they snap. I think the pap deserves some money be it a few hundred or a thousand Adam was in the wrong he got physical.

  148. im not try to upset anybody.im live faraway from usa,my country have problem with gays and im not,i love him but its not easy when i hear bad news and i know hes sold out concerts but hes album is not as big as kelly,daughtry which make 8 and 5million,hes better than that.i have hard time,mocking me some for protecting him.

    i just want him to becareful whats he doing,thats all. you know gays in my country arrested because they had party in apartment.ita tough.im weierd,diffrent myself ,hes role model for people like me and others,if he do this then he loose more fans thats im afraid most.

  149. I think the pap deserves some money be it a few hundred or a thousand Adam was in the wrong he got physical.

    Are you kidding with this?? Good lord, I don’t even know where to start with how many ways that is wrong.

  150. tuti:
    09/17/2010 at 12:43 pm
    everything he wears in pic is ugly at least he learn from tommy.stop defending him,he have to learn how to act.first his amas which make his album flop now this.
    whats next?getting naked!all his younger fan is gone only grandmother is left.he could be huge to a stardom at once but no ruin evrything by his action at least learn from soibhan magnyus.

    Who? LOL! Yes, she would never wear ugly clothes on a beach, arrest his ass post haste.

  151. @Listening, we don’t know the entire story. We don’t know what the pap said to Adam to create the incident. We do know that the pap was smiling in almost all the available photos, and we know that Adam kept the purple cell phone in his hand all through the incident. That all implies that Adam was not out to hurt the guy. It’s a fact that Adam is almost twice the size of the pap, and could have hurt him or at least wiped the grin off his face if he had wanted to. He did not. At first I thought that the whole thing was something Adam and the pap had cooked up together for publicity as it was so obviously a case of completely harmless tussling in the sand.

  152. tuti:
    09/17/2010 at 12:43 pm
    everything he wears in pic is ugly at least he learn from tommy.stop defending him,he have to learn how to act.first his amas which make his album flop now this.
    Forigve me, I am just reading through thisblog, and I see there is much more dark, coming from you.
    whats next?getting naked!all his younger fan is gone only grandmother is left. He could be huge to a stardom at once but no ruin everything by his action at least learn from soibhan magnyus.

    What??????…Wow, where is the love girl? This is a fan site, that supports Adam Lambert, and all he is, which is much more than many!
    Your lack of confidence elludes me. Your statements, and facts are not making any sense.
    There is a thin line between the dark side, and the light side. Let it be the light side, and lighten up!
    Forigve me, I am just reading through this blog, and I see there is much more dark, coming from you.
    Oh, now I understand, that your country must think people are guilty, before they are found innocent. There’s that thin line again?
    My broom, is shaking in the corner!

  153. im not try to upset anybody.im live faraway from usa,my country have problem with gays and im not,i love him but its not easy when i hear bad news and i know hes sold out concerts but hes album is not as big as kelly,daughtry which make 8 and 5million,hes better than that.i have hard time,mocking me some for protecting him.

    i just want him to becareful whats he doing,thats all. you know gays in my country arrested because they had party in apartment.ita tough.im weierd,diffrent myself ,hes role model for people like me and others,if he do this then he loose more fans thats im afraid most.

    Okay so is his crime that he didn’t sell 8 or 5 mil like Kelly and Daughtry (guess what, they don’t sell like Kelly and Daughtry anymore). Or is it that there are different standards cause he’s different?

  154. Hey! Let’s stop fighting- I finished the song, lol!

    So I got no boots on
    Got the wrong type of hat on
    And I’m wearing this tank
    With some bright colored shorts on
    Paparazzi attacks
    When I look so disastrous
    All we need in this world is a shove.

    There’s a thin line between the shore line and the pap line, baby tonight.
    We’re gonna tussle, gonna rumble, tryin to find it

    But pap, if I get you, that will be the last pic that you ever take…
    Yeah…when I get you, no more money will your sorry ass make……
    If i get you we will have a party it’d be ecstasy,
    Yeah if I get you, you y y-y-y you, you, y y-y-y you, you, y y-y-y you, if I get YOU.

    From New York to LA, I had fun with tongue diving
    with some peeps at meet and greet at 10 in the morining
    A girl with my same hairdo, a guy that really had his twink on,
    All they need in this world is some tongue

    But there’s a clear line between between those fun times, and my down time, you little ass wipe
    Just come on over,Let me demonstrate, how to find it

    ( Repeat chorus)

    The flashing of the lights, it might get me riled
    but I got you down on your knees…Yeah!
    My fashion faux pas aside, it still felt so good
    to kick your sorry ass tonight

    that is all you really truly ever need
    for me to shove you
    so you will think twice again before you’re kneed

    ( repeat chorus)

  155. What??????…Wow, where is the love girl? This is a fan site, that supports Adam Lambert, and all he is, which is much more than many!

    Nope, it’s not a fan site, and she has a right to her loony opinions.

  156. I think the pap deserves some money be it a few hundred or a thousand Adam was in the wrong he got physical.

    Yeah, I think paps should be awarded money every time they bully people so that the signal can be sent to even more slimebag scumballs that it’s permissible behavior — NOT! This guy doesn’t deserve a frickin’ penny. I keep reading the opinion that celebrities “know what they’re signing up for,” yada, yada, but, by the same token, paps should know that by being parasites, they run the risk of being squashed. If it’s supposed to come with a celebrity’s job to give up any and all of their lives to the public, then why shouldn’t it be part of a pap’s job to be able to handle whatever emotions they intentionally provoke?

  157. tuti, I would not worry if I were you, most of the posts at all the sites that published the “news” are pro-Adam, so there is no risk of his losing all his fans :D

  158. What??????…Wow, where is the love girl? This is a fan site, that supports Adam Lambert, and all he is, which is much more than many!

    No, my site is not a fan site for Adam Lambert. LOL. Let’s get that straight now.

    I’ll be deleting all and any defensive posts. Allow your fellow posters to have opinions that are different than yours without attacking them.

  159. aislinn:
    09/17/2010 at 1:34 pm
    tuti,
    The “facts” I was referring to were your assertion that his album is a flop and that the only people who attend his concerts are grannies. You seem to not have paid any attention to either his album sales, which are quite respectable, or to any of the pictures of attendees at his concert. The implication that he has “ruined” his career is laughable, given the way his concerts have been selling out, both in the US and internationally.

    I don’t know why tuti always says that Adam’s album is a flop and that his fans are grannies. So what if he didn’t sell as many albums as Kelly & Daughtry. He has sold more than $770K and nowadays, that’s nothing to sneeze at. I also have seen a lot of pictures from the concerts which show people of all ages — from 5 year olds to 80 year olds. We all have heard that Adam’s fanbase is very diverse.

  160. I stan Adam pretty hard, but I’m definitely in the minority here.

    He was wrong to accoust someone…..period.

  161. Tuti, kelly’s latest album sold a little over 800k, Daughtry’s latest has sold a bit over 1million., mj has posted many articles about the decline in album sales. They’re really interesting. Take a peek and they might ease your concerns a bit.

  162. This is another learning incident for Adam I think. At least he does learn and does not keep repeating mistakes. He will be better prepared next time and will prob come up with a more subtle response to bad bad paps. I just deplore that this pap has probably made a lot of money selling the photos of the incident that we are seeing. His fellow pap who took the pics set the whole thing up and are now profiting from this. Compensation??? That pap should be required to stay 500 yards (or whatever the standard distance is for protection orders) away from Adam. He could still take pics but would not be in Adam’s face.

  163. Fortunately this story broke on a Friday and will get less media because of the weekend. Adam is leaving the country pretty soon so it’ll be awhile before he has to face the Paps in Florida (anyway). So much ado about nothing.

    The Pap would have had a better case if his wasn’t laughing his ass off in all the pictures. :)

  164. studio57, you should send it to Adam, he will have a good laugh :)

  165. springboard:
    09/17/2010 at 2:36 pm
    And a round of applause for Studio !!

    and my co writers jammasta and christyo :)

  166. Studio57 and jammasta and christyo– Fantastic! I LOVE the song! Thanks for the great laugh and for lightening things up a bit around here. We needed that! You guys have a way with lyrics… ever thought about going into songwriting? ;-)

  167. Taking pictures is one thing, but we do not really know what that pap said to Adam. It could be something extremely derogatory about his friends and Adam lost his cool. Before we judge Adam maybe we should try for a minute to be in his shoes.
    I’m not buying this “it comes with the territory” and “he knew what he signed for”. There has to be a line drawn sometimes.

  168. @Listening, great to hear your views on this. I’ll be sure to follow you next time you’re trying to relax with family and friends. I’ll be sure to bring a number of friends with me, and hide them in the bushes to take your picture. I’ll then place myself within twenty feet of you, and proceed to take photos for an hour. I will make certain to make insulting remarks about your ethnicity, your religion, your sexual turn ons, and your competence with the English language. If you ask me to leave, I will refuse. If a member of your entourage loses his cool and goes after me for the camera, I’ll giggle uncontrollably knowing my friends in the bushes are filming the whole thing, then file a police report for assault.

    I’m sure you will sympathize entirely with me if I do so.

  169. 154 google news articles and counting, lol….

    The gold standard here is Snooki from Jersey Shore getting arrested. ;)

  170. jpfan:
    09/17/2010 at 2:46 pm
    154 google news articles and counting, lol….

    The gold standard here is Snooki from Jersey Shore getting arrested.

    Out of curiosity, how many news articles did she get?

  171. Studio What a clever, funny diddy. Thanks for creating & sharing, and taking the comedic path. The laughter is so great, and I needed that!
    Yes…send it to Adam. At least his fans are making light of it, and it is so funny. Maybe he will sing it on the tour bus? Ha Ha

  172. Out of curiosity, how many news articles she got?

    I don’t really know how to count news articles. But if you google “Snooki arrested” you get over 10 MILLION results. I find that pretty scary myself. :(

  173. im voting and im hope others vote too.its be nice if he be in top20 when hes abroad

  174. Maura73: I love it! It really makes you think that this is what life really is like for celebs. Your post was excellent — so much so that it truly made me feel claustrophobic at the images you were conjuring. Great post!

  175. The gold standard here is Snooki from Jersey Shore getting arrested.

    I bet that is the first time and last time those words will ever be spoken, lol. J/K love me some Shnookers.

  176. Maura73
    I find the various perspectives interesting including yours. It makes me think.

    I wonder if the public’s feelings are the same about Tiger’s wife & her excellent skills at smashing a car windshield after finding out about her husband’s numerous affairs. I don’t wish to derail the conversation OT, but I’d bet that the public finds Tiger’s wife to be more of a victim in this case and a justifiable aggressor. It seems the public as a whole has a rather gray line as to what is battery and what isn’t.

  177. luval:
    09/17/2010 at 12:53 pm
    I still think it had to be something very vile that the pap said to Adam about Adam or his friends. Not just “go away…and let me enjoy my time”.

    And the turquoise shorts…think they were worn the first time in LasVegas when they played there.

    I think those shorts are older than that. In this video there is a picture in Cabo last year and it looks like the same shorts.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPFEgX7JUzI

  178. then why shouldn’t it be part of a pap’s job to be able to handle whatever emotions they intentionally provoke?

    Handle “whatever”? Whatever is a pretty broad term and would cover a huge range of reactions. Surely there is a line which must be drawn?

    Personally, I draw it fairly strictly. I think it’s best to ignore the paps, but if you can’t contain yourself and don’t mind being shown on TMZ, shout insuls back at them.

    I guess others feel it’s fine for celebs to chase them around and wrestle with them (until their friends pull them off). I imagine that some think it’s fine to punch them. Others to give them a beat down. A very few probably think death is too good for them.

    I just don’t feel words justify physical action and once that adreniline starts pumping, one might go a tad further than one intended. Or bad things happen (dude trips and cracks his skull open on his camera. Totally unintended, but now there is a serious problem. Maybe I’ve seen too many episodes of Cold Case…). It’s just a line I personally don’t think one should cross unless one is being physically threatened.

    Now, obviously, there were at least two paps there that day on the beach. That gives you an idea of how many paps there must be in the industry. Everyday, this massive number of paps harrass the celebrities all over the world. And every time a celeb snaps and gets physical, it’s news. It’s news because it happens so infrequently. Most people are able to contain their temper and don’t cross that line.

    The paps are scum, but it is possible to deal with them and not get physical.

  179. jpfan:
    09/17/2010 at 2:53 pm
    Out of curiosity, how many news articles she got?

    I don’t really know how to count news articles. But if you google “Snooki arrested” you get over 10 MILLION results. I find that pretty scary myself.

    Nooo..she got only 179 articles for being arrested and 1014 for being sentenced. Still, not bad for somebody, who is nobody.

  180. Maura73:
    09/17/2010 at 2:45 pm
    @Listening, great to hear your views on this. I’ll be sure to follow you next time you’re trying to relax with family and friends. I’ll be sure to bring a number of friends with me, and hide them in the bushes to take your picture. I’ll then place myself within twenty feet of you, and proceed to take photos for an hour. I will make certain to make insulting remarks about your ethnicity, your religion, your sexual turn ons, and your competence with the English language. If you ask me to leave, I will refuse. If a member of your entourage loses his cool and goes after me for the camera, I’ll giggle uncontrollably knowing my friends in the bushes are filming the whole thing, then file a police report for assault.

    I’m sure you will sympathize entirely with me if I do so.

    Wow Maura73, the visual you created, in my mind was like watching a movie. A delightful read, and perspective.
    This was like reading a screenplay, and I loved it!
    It makes me feel, like Adam was trapped, and yes he was being stalked, and harrassed.
    I feel sad, but they must think he is a big enough Star, to go after him. I just think, it comes with the territory.

  181. Studio 57 and collaborators–funny song. Could the pap be awarded money for a technical violation of the tort of battery where there is no harm? Historically, a token amount, maybe a dollar. The pap won’t find a competent attorney to bring the case and he’d lose in court and he’d probably have to pay the attorney. If he brought a civil claim against Adam in small claims, maybe he’d get something, probably not. The only way he’d recover even a token amount in a civil case is if the State decided to prosecute Adam and he was convicted or pled. In such a (remote) case, Adam should NEVER accept a plea bargain just so he doesn’t have to be bothered. The pap lied to the police and that really makes a conviction against Adam very unlikely.

  182. Kirsten, generally I agree with you… not with the OTT statements about death and cracking skulls, of course. ;)
    But until I am in a situation like that I will not judge…. I don’t know what I would do if paps started harassing me and my family…. maybe I would just laugh in the beginning, but then, after like an hour it might get to me and I might react violently, who knows….. all depends on the situation.

  183. Handle “whatever”? Whatever is a pretty broad term and would cover a huge range of reactions. Surely there is a line which must be drawn?

    Since I was just writing my opinion on a blog and not a law, it was just a vague quip at those who seem to think there should be legal protection for these stalkers but not for those whose right to privacy they invade.

    Now, obviously, there were at least two paps there that day on the beach. That gives you an idea of how many paps there must be in the industry. Everyday, this massive number of paps harrass the celebrities all over the world. And every time a celeb snaps and gets physical, it’s news. It’s news because it happens so infrequently. Most people are able to contain their temper and don’t cross that line.

    We don’t know what this guy was saying, so we don’t know what lines he crossed that sent Adam off in this instance when he’s so clearly avoided such reactions for the past two years (or year and 3/4, however long it’s been since he’s been of public interest). Yes, there are paps everywhere, but the majority of them probably exercise some class/ethics when doing their jobs and would go away when asked to do so after having hovered and taken pictures for a whole hour. This guy hung around and, like a bully, refused to give Adam space and privacy. Adam didn’t punch him, he wrestled him for the camera equipment used in the bullying. I’m glad Adam stood up to him.

  184. First I want to make clear that I do not approve the way paparazzi work and there should be a strict law against them.

    But, as there is on yesterday’s headlines thread and here so many comments applauding or at least approving Adam’s behavior and saying that a. he’s so young that he can’t always restrain himself (he’s a grown up man) and b. he’s sweet and kind (as he seems to be, usually)and c. he showed that he’s manly (!)by attacking that pap, that I have to comment. If I’m not completely wrong, this is not first time Adam acts too harsh. I recall that there has been incident when he kicked flowers/git´ft/something off fans hands at his show. When I went to Youtube to find that video, there was also a video of him kicking a guard… For me, it seems that Adam has some difficulties to control his behavior and that’s something that he should take care of.

  185. The paps are scum, but it is possible to deal with them and not get physical.

    I’d just refer you to Maura’s post – it’s so easy for us out of the limelight to tell the celebs they should just deal with it, as if verbal abuse and endless hounding is something that should be easily manageable 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, no matter where you are or what your are doing. Try walking a mile in any celeb’s shoes who is being targeted – it’s always possible to act any number of ways, just not always easy for any of us to get it right every time.

    eta; He did not kick a guard, and he does not “act harsh”, but is actually very skilled at keeping a polite demeanor. Thank GOD I am not a celebrity – the finger wagging at every little action must get so incredibly tiresome.

  186. I woud like to make one statement, without Paparazzi Lady Diana would still be alive. Don’t we EVER forget this!!
    I have been quiet so far, because I am still, to this day, upset about this. Anyone, who cannot see the wrong-doings in the actions of the paparazzi, needs to be reminded.

  187. First I want to make clear that I do not approve the way paparazzi work and there should be a strict law against them.

    But the problem is.. that there isn’t laws across the board to draw a distinct line in the sand. I’m usually one that says “keep your hands to yourself”, although in this instance I can’t be black and white about it. Its a bigger societal issue and there needs to be consequences on BOTH sides. I’d say that Adam crossed the line, but so did the pap. We know what Adam is risking, now what is the pap risking?

  188. GreenHippo:
    09/17/2010 at 3:26 pm
    I woud like to make one statement, without Paparazzi Lady Diana would still be alive. Don’t we EVER forget this!!
    I have been quiet so far, because I am still, to this day, upset about this. Anyone, who cannot see the wrong-doings in the actions of the paparazzi, needs to be reminded.

    I thought about this..but I didn’t want to go there. You took the words out of my mouth. I guess her body guards were just trying to avoid the paps.

  189. Maura73, wow, just wow, you really drew a scary picture here…. I totally agree with you.
    but I just wonder, isnt’ there a law that you can’t take other people’s photos without their consent? I am talking about “noncelebrities”, I know such law is in my country…. I am just wondering why it should be any different with celebrities, when they are in private…. I agree with you that this definitely does not come with the territory….

  190. Personally, I don’t know what it feels like to be papped. It must suck. It must feel like you’ve got flies buzzing all around and you can’t swat at them. And when you do…eek! Adam must be embarrassed! Oh well…could have been worse.

  191. I love that quote, it sums it all:

    This pap needs to take a class at the Learning Annex on the right way to commit fraud. You don’t crack a smile when you’re being “attacked” by a celebrity. You crack a damn rib and cry for your mommy.

  192. @Koshka, I don’t know very much about the incident involving Tiger’s windshield. However, if I found out that my husband had been unfaithful with many women, I might well break something that was dear to him. Few things, including the law, are black and white. There is always grey involved when it comes to human motivation and human creation. Cops, lawyers, judges, and juries know this. A society which enforced all laws without regard to circumstances would be a horrendous one.

  193. Adam has spent the last year or so constantly being followed by paparazzi. By all previous reports he has been unfailingly patient and polite when dealing with the paps and media. He has never engaged the paps in this way before. He certainly appears to know that it is best to just ignore it all. He has been doing so. Obviously something was different about this time – the pap said something derogatory re Adam or his friends or who knows what. No doubt Adam is exhausted from touring/radio promo etc ( not feeling sorry for him, it’s is job) and had a shorter fuse than usual. But I don’t agree that Adam somehow can’t control himself or hasn’t learned to ignore the paps. For whatever reason he got really angry this time and tried to grab the guys camera.

  194. And every time a celeb snaps and gets physical, it’s news. It’s news because it happens so infrequently. Most people are able to contain their temper and don’t cross that line.

    The paps are scum, but it is possible to deal with them and not get physical.

    Who knows whether it’s news or not. We will never know if it doesn’t make the news.
    As for dealing with the paps, it may not have been the best way to deal with them, but who is always doing the right thing? And it doesn’t look like the police thinks he crossed the line that much, so there is no real problem there.

  195. Try walking a mile in any celeb’s shoes who is being targeted – it’s always possible to act any number of ways, just not always easy for any of us to get it right every time.

    I may not have walked a mile in a celeb’s flip-flops, but everyday, other celebs do. I merely pointed out that if the other celebs contain themselves (except for a few rare Sean Penn type incidents every couple of years), that seems to indicate to me that people who do face what Adam does everyday can control themselves.

    I’m just speculating here, but I’m guessing the pap being wrestled with didn’t just start the job yesterday. Other celebs have dealt with him without getting physical.

    So it is possible.

    We don’t know what this guy was saying, so we don’t know what lines he crossed that sent Adam off in this instance when he’s so clearly avoided such reactions for the past two years (or year and 3/4, however long it’s been since he’s been of public interest).

    We don’t even know if the pap said anything at all. If the chaser gets the 100% benefit of the doubt, why doesn’t the chasee?

    Look, we all have bad days. I imagine the pap did say something. Maybe it was the wrost thing in the world to say. But words are just words. They do not excuse getting physical, in my book.

    New Line of Questions: Any guesses as to what Adam was thinking (no, I’m not refering to that goofy hat)? If Adam was angry at something the pap said, wouldn’t he go after the pap directly? It seems from the photographs that he went after the camera (he’s grabbing for the camera and holding on to the pap while trying to get around the arms).

  196. California passed a new anti-paparazzi law on Tuesday that will implement harsher penalties for photographers found breaking traffic laws or interfering with the operation of a celebrity’s car while in pursuit of a photo. Under this new legislation, those guilty can receive a fine of up to $5,000 or a year in prison. This is California’s second paparazzi-related law made in the last year; in October 2009, Governor Schwarzenegger signed a similar bill which can fine photographers for taking photos that invade a celebrity’s privacy

    I wish it was implemented in every state.

  197. But I don’t agree that Adam somehow can’t control himself or hasn’t learned to ignore the paps. For whatever reason he got really angry this time.

    Exactly, something about this incident was different. Remember, on Oprah Adam said something along the lines that he knows it’s their job (the paps), but that sometimes they get a little excited and cross the line. I don’t remember the exact wording, but it was to that effect. So, if way back when he did Oprah he had already seen some of them cross that line and had put up with it, this guy must have gone pretty far across that line to make him approach the guy and try to get the camera from him. Really, all I know is, the police came to the conclusion that Adam’s actions were not abusive or unlawful, either, or they would have filed charges.

  198. I woud like to make one statement, without Paparazzi Lady Diana would still be alive. Don’t we EVER forget this!!

    She got into a car driven by somebody who was drunk as a skunk and didn’t even bother to put on her seat belt when he started driving around Paris at extreme speed.

    The way the paps treated Diana was TERRIBLE, but she is dead because she made some very bad choices.

    You cannot change the ways others act, but you can change the way you react to them.

    Take Adam for example. He roughed up a pap. Do you think all the other paps are going to say “Oh, no. That Adam is one tough dude. If you call him names, you might get chased by him. I better not do that.” I doubt it. What they are more likely to say is “Hee! That Adam is a hot head. You call him names until he snaps and we’ll split the proceeds of the photo sales.”.

    So, Adam now has a choice. He can go and get in slap fights with every pap on two continents or he can learn to control his temper and just not react. Because the paps aren’t going to treat him better and if he thinks some dude on South Beach is bad, wait until he meets the guys on Fleet Street.

  199. Kirsten, I don’t agree with you that words are just words, sometimes words can do more harm than a blow in the face….. just saying

  200. New Line of Questions: Any guesses as to what Adam was thinking (no, I’m not refering to that goofy hat)? If Adam was angry at something the pap said, wouldn’t he go after the pap directly? It seems from the photographs that he went after the camera (he’s grabbing for the camera and holding on to the pap while trying to get around the arms).

    Normally, I’d wonder what was captured on that camera to make him want it so badly, LOL! But since the photographer had allegedly been watching for an hour, it’s unlikely anything that interesting transpired. My speculation is that since Adam had asked him to leave and the guy jerkily refused after he had been given at least one posed shot and numerous candids, he (Adam) just figured the guy didn’t deserve of them or the $$ he was sure to get selling the pics. The guy clearly upset him, so maybe Adam decided he didn’t want to give him anything. Again, since I don’t know Adam and wasn’t there, I’m just speculating.

  201. Take Adam for example. He roughed up a pap.

    Nah, I don’t agree he “roughed” him up. He did grab at him (based on what I can see in the pics) while the pap played keep-away with the camera, but there were no bruises or lacerations. “Roughing up” implies that damage was done or that marks were left.

  202. May be Adam didn’t want to be captured on camera with the outfit he was wearing, LOL.

  203. Kirsten, I don’t agree with you that words are just words, sometimes words can do more harm than a blow in the face….. just saying

    Only if you chose to grant that power to the person saying those words.

  204. Kirsten,

    I disagree with you on many items (I agree with you on some too, though).

    I don’t think Adam “roughed up” a pap or got “physical.” The pap had no bruises or lacerations, and his property was not damaged. My brother is Adam’s size (actually my bro is 3 inches taller), and some mere touches bruise me. If Adam were physical, the guy would have bruises. It appears to me that Adam was trying to get the camera, not trying to hurt the pap. There’s a difference.

    Like agathe, I don’t agree that words are just words. In fact, I think words can be harsher. I can think of many instances in which I gladly would have taken a punch to the stomach than listen to the words spewed out of someone’s mouth.

    I think we can recognize that Adam faces the pap every day. He hasn’t attacked any others and has been polite. In fact, the reports are that he politely asked the pap to leave. The pap chose not to leave but to further provoke. While I wish Adam would have responded differently, I think he is far away from having a “temper.” (Hypothetical: If Adam had warned the pap that he would get physical, would the pap then have assumed the risk by staying? If Diana can be blamed for not wearing a seatbelt, then can’t the pap be blamed for not leaving when he was asked to?)

    We don’t know the situation. I don’t like physical violence. But I find it hard, based on what we know, to fault Adam, or to say that I would have reacted differently.

    Overall, I think you are overreacting, the pap wasn’t hurt. If he were, or if Adam had a habit of getting physical (aside: I think the stuff with the security guard and concertgoer were playful rather than aggressive), my feelings may change.

  205. SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!!! I am NOT HAPPY RIGHT NOW!! :( I mean, I’m more than happy to deal with all my idol’s crap, but JMHO, IF this was batter it is NOT OK!!! I don’t care how annoying someone is, you don’t f&*king assault them. Does this mean I don’t LOVE Adam’s voice and personality? Of course not!! Doesn this mean I’m a bad fan? I don’t know ; maybe.

    Even if it wasn’t battery, this was bad publicity, and it’ll make Adam look like trash. It’s not my job to handle that, but JMO.

    I am a strong believer in non-violence ; No one (EVEN AFL) should ever hurt another person!!!!!!!!!! Just leave the goddamn papparazzi alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don’t believe Adam did anything really bad, but I think he should think out his consequences and their results b4 he acts so impulsive. ‘
    I’m SURE something was building up to this.; Adam wouldn’t just do it!!

    Anyway, I don’t believe the papparazzi deserve it, because no one deserves that (Even if it was NOTHING)– This is the first time in a long time I am not happy with something Adam did………….Of course, not that this has anything to do with it, but I still love him though.

    ETA-Feel free to disagree, it’s just an opinion. And lol, I can’t believe I actually share the same opinion with Kirsten!!

    And I am sooooooooooooooooooooooooo RELIEVED the police aren’t pressing charges, so in my mind this isn’t THAT big of a deal.

  206. Nah, I don’t agree he “roughed” him up. He did grab at him (based on what I can see in the pics) while the pap played keep-away with the camera, but there were no bruises or lacerations. “Roughing up” implies that damage was done or that marks were left.

    I agree, and it is obvious from the pics that he didn’t try to harm the pap, but only grab the camera, showing that even if he was angry, he was far from really loosing his temper.

  207. Teri63, read your posts after I posted mine. They are similar. Sorry wouldn’t have posted if I had read yours first.

  208. I lIke his shorts :( I mean if you put it along with a white t-shirt it would be THE BOMB! :)

    I’m trying here, but everytime I see those shorts they look like something these guys would wear. He looks like the Fresh Beat Band’s tamborine player.

    studio, jammasta and christyo… I salute you. LMAO! That song was hilarious. First prize! :D

    negativo wins second prize for this:

    “A tall, flamboyantly gay man in his late 20’s, wearing a bonnet, flip flops and turquoise kulats, dashed towards me and started grabbing at my bag while I was taking pictures of him.”

    Now that’s what I’m talking about people. Making fun of it is much better than arguing about it. LOL

    And springboard:

    May be Adam didn’t want to be captured on camera with the outfit he was wearing, LOL.

    Obviously what you say is true. LOL

  209. The bottom line is the incident is done and over. No one can undo what has been done…everyone just needs to move forward. If the law considers Adam violate the Pap they will deal with him…if a jury of his peers decide that Adam needs to pay the Pap through the nose that to will transpire.

    Most of us have been in situations in life that in hindsight we wish we had handled differently. But I have “slapped” someone when they didn’t get out of my face and I couldn’t take the verbal abuse anymore…I know I should have just walked away but sometimes you just have to stand-up to a bully, for your own mental health issues.

    So, unless Adam is charged by law enforcement I just feel no harm no foul. These types of incidents are full of interpretation on both sides, and people who firmly believe in turning the cheek will always disagree with someone else acting in a physical manner…that is why bullying is so hard to stop.

    And, as an aside, I think it is sad that people feel Princess Diana is responsible for her own death. The bottom line is that without the Paparazzi starting the whole incident with their intensity in getting one more bloody picture the rest of the unfortunate events wouldn’t have happened. They didn’t “cause” her death but they aren’t guiltless.

  210. LOL reading my posts, I need to chill…….thank you tinawina….making fun of it is so much better than arguing!

    Besides, as long as the police aren’t pressing charges i guess it’s alright, although I still don’t think Adam should have done that–what I posted earlier was my knee-jerk reaction after reading it…maybe I should take my own advice for Adam and be less impulsive…:)

  211. All of your points are very well-stated Kirsten. And yes, I hate to see us comparing this inconsequential blip with the tragic circumstances surrounding Lady Diana’s death. I believe that it was ruled in a Court of Law that the Papparrazi were NOT in any way culpable for her death. It is a distateful comparison, IMO.

    Believe me, I have a great deal of empathy for Adam in this situation, and in general the Paps ARE the scum of the earth. But like Kirsten, I do wish that he could have controlled his emotions better in this particular situation. IMO he shouldn’t be villified, but nor should he be applauded for his actions.

    And this really isn’t the first time that Adam has taken the Tabloid Media bait, is it? For example, his defensiveness and anti-media tweets about the AMAs, AI Finale and the whole SuBo scandalette. And didn’t he give the finger to, or negatively engage with the paps once when he was out with Brad?

    Adam is a remarkable talent, and by all accounts a great guy, but I think that it is becoming obvious that he has a bit of a short fuse (no big deal – many of us have them). Even when he is in the right, he needs to learn to just ignore the paps. Or get a more effective body guard.

  212. “Roughing up” implies that damage was done or that marks were left.

    I watch too many police procedurals. The cops claim to “rough up” the perp to get him to confess, but it mainly consists of them poking them in the chest or hitting them with an open hand (so no marks are left).

    Shall we go with “grappled with”? I still don’t think it changes my point. I don’t think it will make the paps back off. I think it will make them behave worse than ever (the pap has probably tweeted exactly what he said to all his buddies by now…he’s got some serious pap cred now). So, he can chose to “grapple with” all the paps or just ignore them. He can’t change what they chose to say to him, just how he reacts.

  213. Only if you chose to grant that power to the person saying those words.

    well, I guess it all comes down to the circumstances, as I have said before…. I can bet you that you have a soft spot, like any of us, that when touched it make all the difference… I know I have one or two, for sure…

  214. IDK–maybe I’m just being sensitive (probably) but for me, it looked like Adam twisted has or something. That probably doesn’t hard too bad, but I’m guessing there’s ome pain involved….

    No one was physically hurt. Not even the mean nasty piece of crap photog. I mean, his pride was hurt maybe but nothing more.

    I don’t even think Adam was hurt by this. Not professionally anyway. But mentally that’s another story.

    Shh, get your GN “granny hats” here LOL!!

    http://www.quiksilver.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3909203

    Thank you. Beach look out!

  215. on the lighter side, Jambajim tweeted:
    @adamlambert Hang in there, man. At the very least I now have a killer Halloween costume. That hat & those shorts: dream come true.

    Halloween at my house this year:
    “Oh, great costumes guys. What are you?” “I’m a princess” “I am Darth Vader and Jimmy over there is Adam-At-The-Beach”.

  216. And, as an aside, I think it is sad that people feel Princess Diana is responsible for her own death. The bottom line is that without the Paparazzi starting the whole incident with their intensity in getting one more bloody picture the rest of the unfortunate events wouldn’t have happened. They didn’t “cause” her death but they aren’t guiltless.

    I see what you are getting at, but when you get in a car with someone as criminally drunk as her driver was ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/september/1/newsid_2493000/2493315.stm ), and don’t wear your seatbelt, a fatal crash is almost a foregone conclusion.

  217. Hypothetical: If Adam had warned the pap that he would get physical, would the pap then have assumed the risk by staying?

    No, but Adam would potentially be in more trouble.

    Actions “in the heat of the moment” are generally considered less serious by the law than when they are planned. Issuing the threat in advance indicates that there was pre-meditation and that the person knew that the actions were bad. Intent is also a factor.

    In general, the law takes a very dim view of non-consensual physical altercations so they are best to be avoided. The law isn’t keen on threats of physical violence either.

    Disclaimer: There is no indication that Adam threatened this photographer or anybody else.

  218. No one gets roughed up with a smile on their face. Except of course in the song Love The Way you Lie. Personally I don’t know of anyone who likes the way it hurts when they burn, but that’s just me.

  219. Yes, there are paps everywhere, but the majority of them probably exercise some class/ethics when doing their jobs and would go away when asked to do so after having hovered and taken pictures for a whole hour.

    I live in LA, I come across them often. And no, they dont excercise any type of class or ethics while swarming celebs. And they certainly never walk away if you simply ask. I honestly think its worse for a woman celeb…Ive heard some pretty harsh, vulgar comments the paps make to either get a response OR b/c the celeb isnt posing to their liking. I’m quite happy California is setting the trend with anti-papz regulations.

    In regards to Adam’s behaviour….yes, he was physical with the photographer. And unfortunately, based on initial reports, there is zero evidence that the guy was verbally taunting Adam. Even so, in the eyes of the law, there is never an excuse for an adult to lay hands on another. Was it rough? Maybe, he grabbed a part of his body, causing it to jerk. That could be considered “roughing up”. You dont need bruises or marks to prove an act of aggression. Having said all that, I still think it was a PR stunt. Causing a bit of controversy, keeps your name in the blogs and your celeb status relevant.

  220. Kirsten,

    I am a lawyer, you don’t need to explain the law to me. The pap could have responded with “bring it on, Adam,” making it consensual. The fact is we don’t know exactly what happened. And I agree that physical altercations should be avoided (even with consent), but the fact of the matter is that they occur all the time. One in which to real harm is done doesn’t rank high on my list of things to worry about.

    Smeggs

    Love it!

  221. The pap had no bruises or lacerations, and his property was not damaged.

    Actually a battery is an unwanted act of physical restraint. In this case, there doesn’t need to be proof in the form of bruises or lacerations. There are pictures of Adam putting his hands on the guy. There are witness accounts. That said, the police or district attorney are never going to pursue this for practical reasons. They don’t have the resources to pursue every battery, only those which result in some physical or emotional harm. Further, there is the concept of unclean hands at play here. The photographer instigated Adam’s actions. Juries are going to sympathize with Adam’s frustration and his minimal physical response not with the photographer, who sustained no injury or property damage.

  222. ; He did not kick a guard, and he does not “act harsh”, but is actually very skilled at keeping a polite demeanor

    I don’t want to continue to stir things here but I don’t want anyone to thing that I made that up, so here’s some comments from those videos I wrote earlier:

    "I was right next to the girl who the security guard was talking to, and I saw the whole thing. Adam definitely made contact with the guys back"

    "Wow! U captured the 'rose kick'! I felt bad for the guy cos I know the effort of buying a flower for someone n to unexpectedly have it kicked back into smithereens must be shattering… I'm sure Adam didn't mean it. He did apologize after that."

    I don't want to link those videos here and don't give whole titles, but both titles include word "kick" so at least the uploaders think there was some kind of kicking going on.

  223. No one gets roughed up with a smile on their face.

    I wouldnt put too much stock on that…there are many people who laugh or smile in awkward, uncomfortable situations.

  224. Having said all that, I still think it was a PR stunt. Causing a bit of controversy, keeps your name in the blogs and your celeb status relevant.

    That’s interesting. Possibility of a lawsuit, being arrested etc. is a PR stunt? He could’ve came with something better if this is what he was aiming for.. IMO.

  225. adam has gained 3K twitter followers in the last 24 hrs….sounds good to me!!

  226. Actually a battery is an unwanted act of physical restraint.

    I never questioned whether this was a battery. In fact, I have said it was. I just meant to question the way people are judging Adam because of this. I got “battered” at Adam’s general admission concert by other concertgoers who lightly pushed me to get up front. Do I judge them and think they are awful people who have tempers? No.

    To me, the pictures paint a different picture than what some of you are seeing. Adam is not perfect, but he is no animal that we should be worried about.

  227. Words are not just words. Every state has its own laws, but threats made on a cell phone or the internet, for instance, are a federal crime punishable by 5 years in federal prison and/or a $250,000 fine. The feds LOVE this law. You don’t even have to have intent to harm. You can even be recounting the plot of a movie and you’ve broken the law. This law allows the feds to get a lot of people (and just harass lots of others) that they want for other reasons. Loads of immature teenagers are at risk of being arrested. SOme have been. Moral: Watch your mouth. “Just words” matter in defense of crimes (or civil suits) and can even be the basis of a civil lawsuit. And, as for whether there is a law in the United States against taking peoples’ pictures. Uh, no. If someone is in public, they are fair game. Profiting from someone’s image (when that someone is a private figure) is more complicated, but, obviously,it can be done)…..

  228. That’s interesting. Possibility of a lawsuit, being arrested etc. is a PR stunt? He could’ve came with something better if this is what he was aiming for.. IMO.

    maybe the pap was in on it. PR is a nasty business. if people think guys on wallstreet are heartless, then they havent known a PR guru :)

  229. We don’t know what the pap did to provoke Adam. It could have been more than just words. He could have kicked sand on the group, he could have caused one of them to trip or fall while he was pushing in for a pic. Really, Adam should not have reacted physically but we don’t KNOW what the pap did!

    What they are more likely to say is “Hee! That Adam is a hot head. You call him names until he snaps and we’ll split the proceeds of the photo sales.

    Now he might get even more paps plaguing him hoping for an outburst. It is a sad situation all the way around.

  230. Adam is not some has-been who needs publicity stunts. The media love to write about him-if he wants even more publicity, all he has to do is shave a little more off his head or maybe dye a purple streak in his hair, and it will spread all over the internet like wildfire. He has been so kind and gracious; why would he plan to risk that image? And in such tacky clothes?
    He just briefly lost his temper-just what the paps wanted.

  231. Words are not just words. Every state has its own laws, but threats made on a cell phone or the internet, for instance, are a federal crime punishable by 5 years in federal prison and/or a $250,000 fine.

    Yes. And if somebody threatens you, you report it to the police. Getting physical with the threatener is not recommended.

    “Words are just words” is meant to say they do not justify a physical response against the utterer. They may justify a criminal complaint against the utterer, but society is trying to get rid of physical responses except in self-defense of physical harm. It’s taught in every pre-school in the land: “When somebody or something upsets you, don’t hit them. Use your words.”

  232. Nooo..she got only 179 articles for being arrested and 1014 for being sentenced. Still, not bad for somebody, who is nobody.

    I’m assuming articles refers to news or blog posts? So when you Google “Snooki arrested” and get 10 million responses does that referrence using those terms on the Internet?

    Snooki is def a somebody though. I have to disagree with you there. ;)

  233. I’m getting the Statue of Liberty as #1 but he’s in the Top 10. Idols show up in Yahoo alot for some reason. When Crystal Bowersox had her teeth fixed I had her as Top 10 on Yahoo for like two weeks. I was surprised at the interest in her. Not saying, folks aren’t interested in Adam. Just that Yahoo trending topics are very Idol friendly. But this may be a big media topic today.

    I see Lindsay Lohan is going back to jail. I think that’ll be the lead story for the tabloid shows tonight.

  234. You dont need bruises or marks to prove an act of aggression.

    ITA, aggressive acts can also be overtly verbal (like name-calling, taunting, etc.), which may or may not have taken place, or passive/aggressive, like being asked to stop staring and photographing and blatantly refusing to do so (an act we’re pretty sure did happen based on what’s being written in the press). I think the pap was aggressive, as well, just in a different way.

  235. Yes. And if somebody threatens you, you report it to the police. Getting physical with the threatener is not recommended.

    “Words are just words” is meant to say they do not justify a physical response against the utterer. They may justify a criminal complaint against the utterer, but society is trying to get rid of physical responses except in self-defense of physical harm. It’s taught in every pre-school in the land: “When somebody or something upsets you, don’t hit them. Use your words.”

    I agree but again this is NOT such a huge problem in the scheme of things. Every situation even legal are not handles exactly the same or even sentenced the same. (no I am not talking about people with money or not) Circumstances DO make a difference. If this were to go to court and trial I assure you you will get people on that jury who would understand the reasoning behind Adam’s reaction whether they agreed or not. It wasn’t as if he wasn’t provoked. He also did not cause physical harm in anyway. Even based on the police report. Also it states in the report the Paps guy REFUSED crime scene photos. Doesn’t sound like someone who is serious about the filing of the charges. Why would he refuse it leaves it suspect or as if he had something to hide. Also based on the picks the Paps guy fibbed on some level he was never wrestled to the ground. He lied in his statement. Makes him lose credibility. (Again lets be clear I don’t condone the way Adam handled it. It was a poor choice but it wasn’t a huge error.) There is more to this story then the poor Paps guys version otherwise he would haven’t lied and he would have taken the pics. I think this was the main reason the cops refused to press charges. IMHO

    ETA we have no Idea of the full extent of the situation. Self defense can be more then just someone actually trying to hurt you Threats can be believed to be cause for someone to feel the need to defend themselves but I digress. Anyway again IMHO

  236. If Adam was angry at something the pap said, wouldn’t he go after the pap directly? It seems from the photographs that he went after the camera (he’s grabbing for the camera and holding on to the pap while trying to get around the arms).

    Based on the pictures from People, Adam obviously knew paps around him and even waved to them before the accident, so it is very unlikely that there were some pictures taken (or outfits) that really pissed him off. In other words, there must be some very BAD words said to him and intrigued him to react that way. Adam is very honest, I have absolutely no reason not to trust him.
    what Teri63 said.

    Having said all that, I still think it was a PR stunt.

    If that was the case, he would have at least dressed like rock star, don’t you think?

    Let’s face it, nobody is perfect, and I believe this guy is more tolerant and patient and has ‘thicker skin’ to handle those situations than most people, we all know that there were people hold “God hates fag and Jewish” in his concerts, he never lose his temper; The fact that he lost AI, his fans were outrages, he NEVER ever said anything bad or negative about his peers, instead he always compliment and support them as much as he can.

    I am not saying what he did always right and NOBODY is but I don’t question what he said, especially over paps.

  237. Teri63:
    09/17/2010 at 3:44 pm

    But I don’t agree that Adam somehow can’t control himself or hasn’t learned to ignore the paps. For whatever reason he got really angry this time.

    Exactly, something about this incident was different.

    I think I’ve read all the posts and I don’t think this has been mentioned. This, of course, is pure speculation on my part.

    I saw the picture with Adam holding a cup with liquid in it. I’m not a betting man by any means but, in this case, I would be willing to wager that there was more than just pink lemonade in that cup. ;-) I’m not in any way suggesting Adam was drunk and certainly not wasted! I’m also not mentioning this to excuse Adam’s behavior but rather as a way to explain, hypothetically, why this situation with the paps could have made it “different” from all the other times. If we’re to believe the TV ads about drinking and driving (and I do), it only takes one drink to impair one’s thinking process. I know! That’s all it takes for me. :-)

    If Adam was enjoying a drink or two on the beach (and who could blame him?), coupled with it being his day off and throw in the pap saying that he wasn’t leaving until Adam did (that could have been all it took to be the last straw for Adam), that’s not a very good combination.

    Again, only speculation of course, but if those factors were at play at the same time, it could explain why this situation with this photographer made it different than any other time.

    Just sayin’ …

  238. jpfan:
    09/17/2010 at 5:23 pm

    I’m getting the Statue of Liberty as #1 but he’s in the Top 10. Idols show up in Yahoo alot for some reason. When Crystal Bowersox had her teeth fixed I had her as Top 10 on Yahoo for like two weeks. I was surprised at the interest in her. Not saying, folks aren’t interested in Adam. Just that Yahoo trending topics are very Idol friendly. But this may be a big media topic today.

    Oh yep he went down to #3…..The rankings on yahoo sometimes changes so fast. :-)

  239. adam has gained 3K twitter followers in the last 24 hrs….sounds good to me!!

    You know it was exactly one month ago that people here noted Adam had reached 600K twitter followers. And today he is at 666K. So he has gained 66,000 followers in the last month or more than 2K a day, just from his normal activities. I think he is doing fine staying relevent and attracting new fans. To think he would resort to some lame publicity stunt is rideculous.

  240. Snooki is def a somebody though. I have to disagree with you there

    To me Snooki is as somebody, as Paris Hilton was.
    But this is just my opinion.

  241. This story will die in about 30 seconds becausethnx is reporting that Russell brand got in a fight with paps at lax and may be arrested. Katy was apparently with him

  242. So, Adam now has a choice. He can go and get in slap fights with every pap on two continents or he can learn to control his temper and just not react. Because the paps aren’t going to treat him better and if he thinks some dude on South Beach is bad, wait until he meets the guys on Fleet Street.

    What makes you think that one incident automatically paints Adam as a person who needs to control his temper. It seems this reaction was not the norm. Maybe he needs to not put himself into situation like this again. Meaning he has to realize he maybe at the point he can’t “hide”. I think he will get that he is a quick study. Again I just don’t see how this turns into Adam the hot tempered idol who really needs to learn how to control his anger. Adam is many things but I would never describe him as an Angry person or someone who needs anger management. JMHO.

    By the way Kirsten you’re one of my fav people I just don’t agree with you here. :-)

  243. mmb:
    09/17/2010 at 5:41 pm
    This story will die in about 30 seconds becausethnx is reporting that Russell brand got in a fight with paps at lax and may be arrested. Katy was apparently with him

    He probably didn’t get the memo to ignore the paps bullying and harrassment of him and his fiancee. Maybe Russell, Adam and Katy can all go to the same anger management class. Don’t groups get discounts.

  244. brigette, that’s a wonderful idea, I will go out now and punch some peeps so that I will end up in the same anger management class ;)
    IT WILL BE WORTH IT!!!

  245. Adam is many things but I would never describe him as an Angry person or someone who needs anger management.

    Nor would I. I don’t think Adam is some kind of evil person. I simply think he reacted badly in this instance. Everybody has a bad day. Clearly, this is not the normal behaviour for Adam, or it wouldn’t be news by this time.

    Russell Brand, thank you old chap..

    I wouldn’t thank him just yet. If Russell had done something like moon the Queen or get arrested for passing out drunk at the Lincoln Memorial or for having a screaming fight with Katy on Rodeo Drive, that would divert attention.

    But he did the same sort of thing as Adam. That generally turns it from an interesting little story into an EPIDEMIC!!!! Just get one more instance of it, and Larry King will have a panel discussion on “Paps vs the Celebrities: Why all the Fights?”. All sorts of introspective articles about whether the paps are getting worse or celebrities are getting too high and mighty.

    Several like incidents tend to create a feeding frenzy (the cynic in me says the Editors think “Adam vs the paps? Only really interesting to a sub-set of people. Adam & Russel vs the paps? Now, I’m appealing to two sub-sets plus the people who like debating new trends. Plus we can roll film of Diana”).

  246. moonshadow:
    09/17/2010 at 4:36 pm

    Kirsten,
    I am a lawyer, you don’t need to explain the law to me.

    Yeah, but you posed a hypothetical and she offered an answer to your hypo. And I thought she was dead on. Was she supposed to only offer up a non-legal analysis? Shoulda made that clear.

  247. We don’t even know if the pap said anything at all. If the chaser gets the 100% benefit of the doubt, why doesn’t the chasee?

    Well, if you choose to believe Adam a liar, than yeah, you can claim the pap said nothing. Adam’s tweets before the pictures broke suggest otherwise, and yeah, I’m much more willing to believe a man who has shown himself to be honest.

    What makes you think that one incident automatically paints Adam as a person who needs to control his temper. It seems this reaction was not the norm

    Agreed. Adam’s been in the public eye ever since he came on the radar shortly into his run on Idol. He’s always been a polarizing figure due to his not fitting America’s narrow view of what’s “normal”. Through his very busy concert tour he’s participated in frequent interviews with local and distant radio stations and newspapers, and has likely been faced with paps in various locations on the tour. Despite this, what we hear over and over again from the interviewers and others who have had contact with him is what a nice guy he is. So why is it that one act all of a sudden determines his future action? It’s not like he hasn’t had controversy surround him in the past – did he continue to act exactly the way he did at the AMA’s after that event? Of course not. There’s absolutely no evidence that he would do so with paps moving forward. Sadly, what he’ll likely have to do is withdraw from the public more, and isn’t it a damn shame that these assholes are able to limit his ability to freely choose how to use his private, free time.

    Question for those who are so critical of Adam – have you ever been harassed? Can you honestly tell me it didn’t bother you? Guaranteed, whatever level of harassment you experienced doesn’t hold a candle to what Adam and other celebs have had to endure. Sure, we can only be responsible for our own behavior, but it seems that some people are dismissing the paps’ harassment as a minor annoyance, not as something that has the potential to completely spoil one’s ability to enjoy an outing.

  248. Several like incidents tend to create a feeding frenzy (the cynic in me says the Editors think “Adam vs the paps? Only really interesting to a sub-set of people. Adam & Russel vs the paps? Now, I’m appealing to two sub-sets plus the people who like debating new trends.

    I fairly often hear how Adam is a small fish in a big pond. Why would he suddenly garner that much media attention?

  249. Kirsten:
    09/17/2010 at 6:05 pm

    Adam is many things but I would never describe him as an Angry person or someone who needs anger management.

    Nor would I. I don’t think Adam is some kind of evil person. I simply think he reacted badly in this instance. Everybody has a bad day. Clearly, this is not the normal behaviour for Adam, or it wouldn’t be news by this time.

    UM Kirsten how can we have a friendly debate if you go and say things that i agree with…. You’re not playing fair….. :lol: J/K

  250. Agreed, Ron. Adam’s been in the public eye ever since he came on the radar shortly into his run on Idol.

    Aislinn I’m not Ron Its dhunken (Don actually) Ron is a great guy but I am not him plus I have him in “time out” after the whole Adam is Drunk speculation…. ;-) J/K

  251. Ron:
    09/17/2010 at 6:26 pm

    I’m not in any way suggesting Adam was drunk

    I thought I said that. :-)

    I know I was joking….. Ha ha ha

  252. Ron:
    09/17/2010 at 6:30 pm

    I know dhunken. I guess we’re both just trying to lighten the mood.

    It doesn’t seem like we are succeeding :-( Oh where is Prince Poppycock when you need him…. :mrgreen:

  253. Sorry, dhunken – I realized that right after I posted, and went back and edited my post to remove that Ron person’s name ;) Sounds like he needs a time out, lol.

  254. aislinn:
    09/17/2010 at 6:33 pm

    remove that Ron person’s name

    In my best Jack Benny impersonation, “W-E-L-L”. :-)

  255. “Who’s Jack Benny?”

    I think I saw him on a video next to a display of something called ‘records’ at the Smithsonian. ;)

  256. koshka:
    09/17/2010 at 6:55 pm

    “Who’s Jack Benny?”

    I think I saw him on a video next to a display of something called ‘records’ at the Smithsonian.

    (Sigh) yes, it won’t be long before that’s where I end up. So, now that you’ve provoked me, I’m going to have one drink and not be responsible for my thought processes for the rest of the evening. :-)

  257. Well, this story was first on Access Hollywood. But nothing new. Video and audio of pap wanting Adam to go in the water. Adam saying “no, I’m not going in the water”.

  258. (Sigh) yes, it won’t be long before that’s where I end up. So, now that you’ve provoked me, I’m going to have one drink and not be responsible for my thought processes for the rest of the evening. :-)

    Don’t go near the beach or around any paparazzi….not a good combo.. at least according to your speculation…. LOL :lol:

  259. Although I just arrived home from working all day (and week), I feel the need to chime in here…….

    Adam meant no harm and did no harm. I sincerely hope that the worst that will come out of all of this will be just another “early career” learning experience for Adam. I feel certain that we have nothing to worry about and that this incident will not repeat itself.

  260. If you watch the video while they are sitting you see that Adam is flipping the bird at various photogs requests, ie he’s not doing it because he’s upset.

    Eyewitness accounts say that paparazzi were filming for more than an hour at which time Adam asked one to go away. Pap said he couldn’t till Adam left.

    Look at the other photos where Adam is walking toward the camera. You’ll see the big guy on the left, someone behind Adam holding a drink, and Taylor. I think it’s pretty obvious that in order to make the pap go away that Adam is leaving the beach and heading back to hotel etc.

    At that point something additional happens which pretty much means the pap said something. Adam doesn’t get mad for himself but he is a self-described protector which we’ve seen in action when fans dissed his dancers.

    Because of other photos zoomed in on Taylor and Adam while sitting on the beach earlier in the day I’m betting the pap said something sexual about Taylor. Adam the protector reacted. He’s a momma bear.

  261. IMHO in a day or so we will find something else to talk about. This will be old news.

  262. Now “celebrity feud Friday” is coming on E Entertainment. Right after the commercial in my area. hmmmmmm

    Oh no…”Adam Lambert piles on a pap. Who does that?” Right after the commercial.

  263. (Sigh) yes, it won’t be long before that’s where I end up. So, now that you’ve provoked me, I’m going to have one drink and not be responsible for my thought processes for the rest of the evening.

    Just stay away from the paps that hound you & you’ll be ok. ;)

  264. At that point something additional happens which pretty much means the pap said something. Adam doesn’t get mad for himself but he is a self-described protector which we’ve seen in action when fans dissed his dancers.

    Because of other photos zoomed in on Taylor and Adam while sitting on the beach earlier in the day I’m betting the pap said something sexual about Taylor. Adam the protector reacted. He’s a momma bear.

    This seems like a plausible theory, but it is TOTAL speculation and projection. I haven’t heard any eyewitness acounts saying that the photog was verbally abusing Adam or his friends. Adam hasn’t even come out and said that. Obviously they were annoying him and infringing on his privacy, which is bad enough, but verbally attacking him? How can we know that at this point?

  265. I love the fact that Adam’s Dad tweeted Taylor (the dancer) and thanked him for helping Adam. Adam has a lot of people around him looking out for him. It makes my heart happy.

  266. Wish I knew how to contact “The Daily 10”. The guy host tonight made some very derrogatory comments about Adam. Such as “From what I heard about jail, Adam Lambert won’t mind going there”. I hate these people.

  267. After reviewing the photos of Adam and the pap; it’s looks to me like Adam is trying to rip the photographer’s heart out, throw it on the ground, pure gasoline on it and light a match to it. The guy is sooooo lucky Adam’s friend pulled him off of him. He was going to be SOAKED to the bones.

    GO ADAM :>)

  268. This is ridiculous. Harassment, provocation a pain in the butt, but it is not necessary for the paps to be so invasion. I am sure if they had asked for photo’s, they would have gotten some, but their intention is stir trouble. Adam will probably never again get the privacy he so desires without paying for an exclusive location, or floating away on some boat where he can be alone. Its either that or take security everywhere and that costs money as well. The fact that when he lost it and he only tried to grab the camera speaks volumes. I’d have punched the guy in the nose.

  269. Wish I knew how to contact “The Daily 10?. The guy host tonight made some very derrogatory comments about Adam. Such as “From what I heard about jail, Adam Lambert won’t mind going there”. I hate these people.

    I’ve got an idea……why doesn’t that host go to jail to get the scoop on what life is like on the inside. What a jerk.

  270. clearone:
    09/17/2010 at 7:51 pm

    Wish I knew how to contact “The Daily 10?. The guy host tonight made some very derogatory comments about Adam. Such as “From what I heard about jail, Adam Lambert won’t mind going there”. I hate these people.

    I’ve got an idea……why doesn’t that host go to jail to get the scoop on what life is like on the inside. What a jerk.

    Clearone……Good suggestion for this incentive Zealot!

  271. Yeah, but you posed a hypothetical and she offered an answer to your hypo. And I thought she was dead on. Was she supposed to only offer up a non-legal analysis? Shoulda made that clear.

    Keel

    I forget the conversation and was reading it quickly at work. I didn’t have a problem with her analysis, maybe it was the tone. Anyway, I forget what it was, but I apologize if it sounded rude in response. In re-reading it, it doesn’t seem rude. That wasn’t my intent. Sorry.

  272. I’m going to have to start to get used to this … Is there to be no concert thread tonight?

  273. Studio57…Have contacted E-Entertainment by e-mail. Feel better now. Thanks for the twitter suggestion, though.

  274. Wish I knew how to contact “The Daily 10?. The guy host tonight made some very derrogatory comments about Adam. Such as “From what I heard about jail, Adam Lambert won’t mind going there”. I hate these people.

    My mouth is literally hanging open from how wrong that guy’s comment is — on so many levels. Hope people complain and that guy gets canned.

  275. Though I think what the paps do to celebrities is wrong, I don’t think it was good for Adam himself to try to handle the situation. I wonder where his security was, maybe if they weren’t there, he really needs them when he does something like that. It would have been much better for Adam to have his security take care of the photographers if they were bothering him. Either Adam or the photographer could have gotten hurt, and either way, it was not good for Adam, evne if he was harrased.

  276. moonshadow:
    09/17/2010 at 8:06 pm

    Thanks for clarifying. I probably was being too sensitive too about the tone.

  277. How weird that Russell Brand got into a fight with Paps today in LA and was arrested for battery.

  278. In a weird coincidence, Russell Brand got into a fight with Paps today in LA and was arrested for battery.

    Yeah, I know! And it was via citizen’s arrest! Who does THAT? Umm, I mean, besides that chick who citizen arrested A’siah Epperson and her sister in that girl fight situation and this dude who citizen arrested Russell Brand. Weird. Is this an LA thing or something?

  279. jpfan:
    09/17/2010 at 9:20 pm

    How weird that Russell Brand got into a fight with Paps today in LA and was arrested for battery.

    Oh wow he was arrested. All joking aside it is kinda weird….I heard that Sandra Bullock also had a issue with Paps too. Don’t know the whole story or if she did anything aggressive.

    On the other hand if there is a Rash of Paps and Celeb issue coming up it may lead to stricter Paps laws. Probably not but a lot going on that all seem related on some level. This may turn into 6 degrees of Paparazzi Battery with Katy Perry as the common link. ;-)

  280. luvadamlambert:
    09/17/2010 at 10:17 pm

    Weird, although I’m not happy about the situation, I’m kinda happy we have an Adam controversy again…they’re fun

    LOL Hi luv how are you? Good to see you. I know what you mean :-)

  281. Poor Adam! You go baby! And don’t be embarrassed for a second! I also think the headline says it all — “tussles”. That sounds scary! hee hee.

  282. one word: BOYCOTT

    print, television & Internet sites that utilize paparazzi shots

    extremely disappointed to see one here

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