Adam Lambert Hits #1 on Amazon

Just a followup to my blog post on Monday.

Adam Lambert’s upcoming album climbed to #2 on the Amazon.com bestsellers list after it suddenly became available for pre-order on Sunday without fanfare.

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Adam’s album, due out on November 24, sailed past Madonna, The Beatles, Susan Boyle and Michael Jackson.

Only Barbara Streisand stood in his way to the #1 spot…

Not anymore!   This afternoon, Adam Lambert’s yet-to-be-named album, hit #1 on the Amazon Bestsellers list. Congrats Adam.   Or should I say, congratulations to the fans–your pre-orders got him there.

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752 Comments

  1. Question: Are we sure that pre-ordering from Amazon counts towards the first weeks sales? I remember in years past that I pre-ordered and received the album early and it didn’t count towards the first week. Those first week numbers are hugely important. Anyone know for sure?

  2. HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY!!

    Don’t care what percentage Amazon is in music sales.

    ‘Tis great! :grin: 8) :grin: 8)

    ETA: And yes, monte, multiple people have stated that these numbers will count towards first week sales. See other thread for references!

  3. To carry on the spirit of one of Truthiness’ last posts, I will now commence to flail cautiously.

    Yeeeeeee but Yeeeeeeee but Yeeeeee!!!!! :) :D

  4. I wouldn’t be so sure. I think that if you get your album before the release day it doesn’t count. And it’s pretty common to receive Amazon cds the day before their official release.

  5. Don’t know if this is a big deal. But I guess it’s a good thing. Congrats to Adam and fans.

    Re: ChristyLabry’s tweets about hearing Adam’s new songs; I actually think the Labry clan doesn’t know the function of text message and DM. Everything needs to be public for them. So, it’s a fair game for fans to bombard her with tweets.

  6. Frakk! Been swamped all day and every time I have half a sec to catch up, either my Safari or MJ’s goes down (I’ve been thinking this awhile, MJ, but could it be Rickey?)

    Anyway, still reading headlines, but had to drop into flail *FLAIL* and squee *SQUEEEE* (If I wasn’t at work, I’d be shaking and crying.)

    So, so happy for Adam. :D :D

    You kill it, BB!!

    *AdamStorm* *BlackSwan*

  7. To carry on the spirit of one of Thruthiness’ last posts, I will now commence to flail cautiously.

    Yeeeeeee but Yeeeeeeee but Yeeeeee!!!!!

    ROTHLMAO!

  8. I think that the main thing about the Amazon ranking for Adam is that it is totally based on word of mouth through the internet. It may only be a few hundred units but IT IS MORE than anyone else is selling at this precise moment in time on this particular website…without a single leak of any of his material and really not a friggin clue of what kind of material his album may include.

    What all this says to me is that it is Adam’s voice and his song interpretation that is getting people to like him. And, hopefully, like many performers of the past it will be his Voice and his skill that will keep people interested and buying even if his material isn’t necessarily their particular cup of tea.

    As fans, I think people just wanted music buyers to give Adam a chance…to get past the social aspects surrounding him and just buying into his talent. It looks like that is happening. And it’s also very nice that the online media is taking the time to write a blip or two…that says that they, too, think that Adam has something appealing. Otherwise no one would have picked up the story…since it really isn’t NEWS.

    ETA: All sales are counted towards the numbers earned for an album. If the official release date is the 24th of November any albums shipped prior to that are counted on the 24th. If pre-sales weren’t included in the first days total would any record company even consider pre-selling anything. That just wouldn’t happen…they are more invested in the numbers game than any fan could ever hope to be.

  9. Adam Beats Babs ! :-)

    Now, let’s see how long he can retain that # 1 ranking…

  10. um Kay yeah I posted about this on headlines so yeah a lot of squeeing

    Q3 has a gr8 post on headline about this and frm mj ‘s Twitter;

    @maura It means that Lambert has a huge online fanbase, ready to buy his music, but if Kris picks up more sales outside the bubble–he wins about 1 hour ago

    BINGO

  11. I think Mj was watching us hijack the Headlines thread…

    Wheee! (learning how to flail now)

  12. I was going to post this in the other thread but I am going to do it here. If you don’t want a Debby Downer post, please skip this one, lol.

    Back in 2005 when Constantine Maroulis got voted off American Idol in 6th place, his fans ( I was one of them, uggghh) bought his band’s album that was released the week before on Amazon. It went to #2 the next day and stayed there awhile. He actually had two albums, one was explicit, and that one went to #8. Everyone thought that he was going to be at the top of the billboard charts but he only made it to #125. It totalled to under 8,000 units sold. And Amazon was bigger back then.

    . http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Baby-Julius-Productions-660350.html

    I still think Adam’s Itune’s are going to be impressive. I still think Adam has the most potential ut of any Idol before him. I just wanted to give you guys a little persepective and didn’t want you to get your hopes up TOO high.

    Having said that:

    WoooooooHooooo! Go Adam! #1!!!!!

  13. Amazon will deliver the CDs once it is released, so it counts for week 1 sales. This was discussed deeply on Sunday when the pre-orders started to raise in Japan and the UK, and then in the US

  14. From the other thread.

    Q3
    September 29, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    Amazon has an 18% market share of the US CD Album market and sells a much higher share of presale albums. Here are the estimated current shares of the US CD Album market (based on units sold).

    Walmart 29%
    Best Buy 22%
    Amazon 18%
    Target 12%
    Others 18%

    I think this is only referring to PHYSICAL CDs. (which I THINK is about 80% of the overall music selling market).

    ETA: And props to MJ for her New York Post article. I’m sure it helped push Adam to #1.

  15. Constantine has nowhere near the star quality Adam does. His album is number one more so because it is highly anticipated by a lot of people across a lot of different demographics. However, I am waiting with anticipation to see what his first song sounds like. I hope it isn’t overproduced like most music is today. So I agree in that we should try and stay level headed because the music industry can be veeeeery funny. Just look at how many of us thought he was going to win Idol. :)

  16. I posted this in the other thread but am moving it here. I have my eye on Drake’s Mom and so far she not really being bombarded with tweets yet. Of course it’s still early!

    I am wondering in what way she heard Adam’s songs. Is he carrying around a CD? Did they listen at the breakfast table? Or did he sing them for her? And are these the THREE songs Aimee tweeted about??????????

  17. I don’t care either HSM, I’m basking in the glow of Adam being on top. Silly, but I don’t care. I wonder if he knows yet?

  18. Studio57
    September 29, 2009 at 7:30 pm
    I was going to post this in the other thread but I am going to do it here. If you don’t want a Debby Downer post, please skip this one, lol.

    I read your post. It makes sense.

    That said, WHOOOO!! (back to learning how to flail… looking awkward…)

  19. Squirrely
    September 29, 2009 at 7:34 pm
    I don’t care either HSM, I’m basking in the glow of Adam being on top.

    as always…

  20. Happy Moments are happy moments, and I enjoy them fully. Whatever they last, and nobody with half empty glasses takes away my happy moments :-)

  21. @maura It means that Lambert has a huge online fanbase, ready to buy his music, but if Kris picks up more sales outside the bubble’“he wins about 1 hour ago

    Sales outside the AI bubble depend on the quality of the music and the promotion. I’ll start worrying about that when the single comes out.
    For now, this is free publicity, and I love it.

  22. So, it’s a fair game for fans to bombard her with tweets.

    I’m going to disagree with that. To me, it is uber-stalkerish to be following the mother of Adam’s boyfriend on Twitter at all.

    Every time some private citizen even mentions Adam, they get a ton of new followers and bombarded with questions. I’m sorry, I don’t think people need Adam news so bad that they have to harass the entire twitterverse.

    And yeah, Twitter is public, and blah blah blah with all of the other rationalizations. But just because you CAN do something, it doesn’t mean you SHOULD. And, just because it’s cheered on by the kool-aid drinkers on the fanboards, doesn’t mean the rest of the world finds it acceptable.

    End of rant (sorry, that’s really been bugging me). I just find the stalking and criticism of Drake and his family really, really disturbing.

    Congrats to Adam on a job well done. I’m actually shocked at the presale frenzy – especially when no one has heard a peep of this CD. It requires a lot of faith, so I’m surprised.

    I’m not sure if the Amazon numbers are indicative of anything, but I will say, the boy sure has buzz. I’ve been around MJ’s since season 5, and I’m tempted to say that Adam’s buzz is somewhat off the charts (I don’t mean the prolific fan buzz – that’s in lockstep with previous years – I mean the actual honest to goodness media buzz). I’m actually quite impressed with how Adam’s been able to keep his name in the headlines.

  23. ADAM LAMBERT # 1 Amazon Bestsellers List. Now that’s music to my ears!!!! But…I’d like some ‘real’ music please! Is it time for our ‘flaming headdress and/or tin hats yet?

  24. And…as I said before, if Drake’s mama got to listen, Adam’s dad (aka the ex disc jockey) should have heard a track or two as well. I wanna hear an opinionated TWEET from EBER!!!

  25. Spenser, I think your post is right on, especially that part about what one CAN do and what one SHOULD do.

    Still, Drake’s Mom should be savvy enough to protect her updates. Otherwise, one should presume she’s enjoying the attention.

  26. I’m actually shocked at the presale frenzy ‘“ especially when no one has heard a peep of this CD. It requires a lot of faith, so I’m surprised.

    Adam has never disappointed us, at least not me, why should he now? I love his voice and that will remain in his songs whatever the genre.

  27. I wouldn’t be so sure. I think that if you get your album before the release day it doesn’t count. And it’s pretty common to receive Amazon cds the day before their official release.

    I ordered mine today, and the confirmation said I would receive it between December 1 and December 4. I know I won’t be able to wait that long, so I’ll be buying another one the day it comes out. Actually I plan to buy several.

  28. Still, Drake’s Mom should be savvy enough to protect her updates. Otherwise, one should presume she’s enjoying the attention.

    Yep.

  29. It means that Lambert has a huge online fanbase, ready to buy his music, but if Kris picks up more sales outside the bubble’“he wins

    Well, duh, isn’t this true for Kris, Adam, or Allison. Idol fandom is good for, at most, a hundred thousand or so of sales. If any Idol wants to get into the 500,000 to a million range he/she better appeal to those outside of the fandom umbrella. And who is to say that Kris or Adam or Allison has more appeal to the general public.

    I just think it is funny that if ANYONE does well with the confines of the online Universe there is always someone who pipes up and says that they are limited to the online fan and nobody else cares. My wish is that the 750,000 Idol fans that saw the tour will buy albums from Kris and Adam and Allison and Danny, even. That would be enough to make all four of these guys huge successes.

  30. Thanks for reading it adamaloha- that took alot for me to admit I was a Constantine fan, lol ( never to the point that I went to see him on tour though). BTW- the album was actually pretty good.

    Commence partying :)

  31. adamaloha
    September 29, 2009 at 7:36 pm
    Squirrely
    September 29, 2009 at 7:34 pm
    I don’t care either HSM, I’m basking in the glow of Adam being on top.

    as always’ ¦

    You kill me! And that flailing you’re doing over there… very graceful, actually. Looks almost like a hula dance :)

  32. holy shit…I’m surprised….I didn’t think he would make it to the number 1 spot lol…he has a lot of zealous fans though…congrats…to us lol.

  33. monte
    September 29, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    Found this on a Kellie Pickler fansite where they were talking about the same issue:

    Use this as a guide about buying Kellie’s single in order to boost her sales.

    *Amazon and/or Barnes and Noble both report to Nielsen SoundScan, which is the company that tallies up cd sales and reports them to Billboard. You can buy or preorder from either place.

    *New releases are released on Tuesday so that is when the counting begins and it continues until Sunday night. The tallying starts Monday morning when the companies begin reporting the sales to SoundScan. You can actually watch the tallies at hitsdailydouble.com/, it is rather fun to watch the numbers come in. It is an excellent idea to buy the CD on the release day. SoundScan makes its estimates of sales for the week based on first day sales, and big buzz is generated by big first day sales.

    *Don’t ever buy the single the Monday after it’s released, because your sale won’t count toward first week figures.

    *Pre orders count as first weeks sales, don’t wait a week or two to buy the single or any cd. Pre ordering and buying it the first week of release is best to create the buzz in the industry.

    *Please don’t buy any CD’s before the release date with the exception of pre ordering from Amazon or Barnes and Noble. There are stores that will put the CD out early even though they are not supposed to. Resist the temptation to buy, as these early sales from those unscrupulous stores DO NOT count toward first week sales!

  34. well I during tech ed tidy I was looking for a AI judges picture to use on Photoshop(I was gonna replace paula’s head with Ellen haha) but anyway I type in American idol and it was the first suggestion thing.last year not while theshiw wa s on I did that and I wasn’t the first suggestion.not sure if this means anything.but I had to giggle when I aaw the last google suggestion for American idol was “American idol Adam lambert” heee.althought that’s obvious -yknow most popular contestant frm last season .but I have yahoo email alerts for Adam news and they get updated ALLthe time.

    visiting between science hw…brb soon

  35. To me, it is uber-stalkerish to be following the mother of Adam’s boyfriend on Twitter at all

    She did answer/reply to a tweet from a member on AO. I don’t think she realizes how public twitter is. I was uncomfortable even reading her other tweets because they are personal family type tweets. I probably shouldn’t have posted this here, and will not be following her. I was just excited at the thought that she had heard something!

  36. beehiway
    September 29, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    Is Susan Boyle really #3 on Amason’s Rock music list? Um WTF?

    Well her first single is “Wild Horses”…. :mrgreen:

  37. Thanks, mj. I can openly flail here. Need to go check the #adamisnumberone trend, b/c of course I have been trending it as hard as i could. And it takes away from the suckage that is the Red Sox for the FIFTH GAME IN A ROW. *bitter*

  38. I don’t care either HSM, I’m basking in the glow of Adam being on top. Silly, but I don’t care. I wonder if he knows yet?

    THIS^^^

    Sales outside the AI bubble depend on the quality of the music and the promotion. I’ll start worrying about that when the single comes out. For now, this is free publicity, and I love it.

    and THIS TOO ^^^

    The thing is, when people try to run down the significance of the Amazon sales is it is all relative. Adam is being rated with the same system that is rating Babs, the Beatles, SuBo and M.J. and he is soaring right now.

    It’s like Nielsen ratings, they are an imperfect system that samples a very small few, but they proven over the years (and why they are still around), that the ratings are credible because everyone is ranked the same way.

  39. Re: 4mula1″s above post: One of the things I really like is that I am learning a lot about the music business, about marketing, about music, about different artists… (and about flailing!)…

    I don’t know if it translates to the “real world”… but it certainly is interesting.

  40. She did answer/reply to a tweet from a member on AO.

    Lady is going to regret that one. Fans will use her politeness as an excuse to stalk and badger the poor lady. Maybe people will even send her links to a few gross fan fics. She clearly answered that fan without a clue as to what is about to hit her when word gets around that she’s accessible.

  41. She did answer/reply to a tweet from a member on AO. I don’t think she realizes how public twitter is. I was uncomfortable even reading her other tweets because they are personal family type tweets. I probably shouldn’t have posted this here, and will not be following her. I was just excited at the thought that she had heard something!

    I get the intentions, and honestly – I’m not judging you. I just think sometimes we should take a step back, especially when it comes to the people in their lives who didn’t sign up to be in the public eye. The interwebs have a way of making behavior we’d normally avoid in real life seem totally okay, ya’ know what i mean?

  42. well I during tech ed tidy I was looking for a AI judges picture to use on Photoshop(I was gonna replace paula’s head with Ellen haha) but anyway I type in American idol and it was the first suggestion thing.last year not while theshiw wa s on I did that and I wasn’t the first suggestion.not sure if this means anything.but I had to giggle when I aaw the last google suggestion for American idol was ‘American idol Adam lambert’  heee.althought that’s obvious -yknow most popular contestant frm last season .but I have yahoo email alerts for Adam news and they get updated ALLthe time.

    I have no idea what you just said, or tried to say. Too many typos and too tangential.

  43. Adam is my fav idol EVER and I haven’t even preordered yet……..just keeping it real.

    I will be buying one copy no matter what it sounds like – but I want to see what bonus tracks are where.

  44. I had to walk home to the music of Adam (I do that periodically). And whan I hear FG and One (studio), I think, Geez, how can this guy NOT have a strong-selling album? He can flat out SING and he can flat out PERFORM. He is selling this album based on WORD OF MOUTH. That is it. There is no name of album. There is no leakage. There are no names of songs, with the exception of Strut (which Adam will surely do in one of his videos). We don’t even know if TFM will be part of the 2012 road block marketing blitz (tho chances are good that it will be). This is based on WORD OF MOUTH and MEDIA INTEREST. That’s it. RCA isn’t doing a thing. Adam hasn’t done any press since the Tour. And he has gone MIA.

    So, um, hells yes I’m excited. And I have mh own thread to be excited about it.

    *flailing*
    *squeeig*
    *jumping up and down, heart racing*

    BLACK SWAN

    To part of the song ONE

    One Song
    Is all I’m asking
    Before I start to
    Engage in flasking

    One Song
    Is All I Need
    Come on, 19
    Don’t make me plead

    One…one…song
    I’ll sing…along
    One tiny leak
    That is all I seek
    One song for each other
    My sisters and my brothers

    One song…
    Is that so wrong
    One track
    Ain’t going back

  45. Flailing!

    At least they added a photo, even if it’s not my favorite.

    and thanks ‘4mula1’ for the explanation of pre-orders and first week sales

    GO ADAM!

  46. Adam is my fav idol EVER and I haven’t even preordered yet’ ¦’ ¦..just keeping it real.

    Same here! I can’t wait to get Adam’s album, but being in Mexico, orders with Amazon take weeks to arrive, sometimes more than a month, so I’m waiting to buy it on iTunes.

  47. Well, after reading all the ins and outs of what this all means or doesn’t mean for three straight days now, all that’s left for me to do is my best Rumpelstiltskin impersonation and have y’all wake me when it’s over!

    Can I just set my internal alarms and Flash Forward directly to Nov. 24th!!??

  48. I am sure that we all realize that the Amazon pre-sales may not account for a whole lot of cd’s. However, fans are so excited because they created the buzz for Adam. Their research, their twittering and blog promotion, and the media followed to increase the buzz already created by the fans..

    The fans rightly deserve to pat themselves on the back, because Adam has received such wonderful, free media buzz that he will not have to pay for later from his record company.

    At this point, the actual # of cd’s does not matter, it is the excitement & buzz. THAT may eventually translate to sales outside the Idol fan base, the idol bubble. Watch twitter closely , not everyone who is twittering about Adam is an Idol fan anymore….

  49. heeee 4mula1 I love how this is all so complicated;)

    I’m laughing about it IRL too. Never thought I’d be concerned about the inner workings of the music business. It’s quite interesting to see how what we do actually impacts on the individual artist.

  50. suebrody, BRILLIANT! Maybe you and Aimee Mayo should collaborate! :D

  51. I hope that with this pre-order buzz, and Adam getting to number 1, RCA seriously consider the video and the solo tour :-)

    I am so curious to know if they expected this, or if it is a surprise for them. Adam is so quiet about the whole stuff.

    Btw, I ordered 3 on Amazon UK, 2 on US and I will download from iTunes.

  52. One Song
    Is all I’m asking
    Before I start to
    Engage in flasking

    One Song
    Is All I Need
    Come on, 19
    Don’t make me plead

    One’ ¦one’ ¦song
    I’ll sing’ ¦along
    One tiny leak
    That is all I seek
    One song for each other
    My sisters and my brothers

    One song’ ¦
    Is that so wrong
    One track
    Ain’t going back

    LOL sue!!!

  53. Still, Drake’s Mom should be savvy enough to protect her updates.

    I agree with this and think Caveat emptor – “Let the buyer beware” fits here. Drake’s mother is part of Twitter the same way everyone else is.

  54. suebrody – Love the lyrics – perfection :-)

    Let’s all sing along while we flail!


    One Song
    Is all I’m asking
    Before I start to
    Engage in flasking…

    come on everybody sing!

  55. I Never Flail,squee, or jump up or down but after this news and reading suebrody’s version of ONE…I’m going for it……YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

  56. If Aimee is free, I am as well. ;)

    BTW, I do not think RCA imagined the adam storm. And now they just get to spend time thinking about, as you say dyg1:

    Videos
    Songs to be released and when
    Television shows (Ellen, eta) and radio appearances
    The Tour
    Acting gigs
    The World

  57. Squeeeeeee. This is so exciting. I’ll enjoy the moment.

    Back to the beginning of the thread….

  58. Can I just set my internal alarms and Flash Forward directly to Nov. 24th!!??

    If you figure out away to do this please let me know before you Flash Forward!!

  59. not everyone who is twittering about Adam is an Idol fan anymore’ ¦.

    I have never been an idol fan. I am an Adam fan. My interest in AI finished when the tour ended.

  60. He still has a green arrow!!

    what does that mean..must be something good!!!

  61. NOICE!!!!!!!!!!

    I’m flailing as well! I know that its not indicative of how well the album will do overall, but its cool to see his presales hit #1 on Amazon so early, I’m happy.Taking a snapshot of that for posterity,LOL

  62. LOL, suebrody!! Perfection. *Arms around everyone’s shoulders, swaying and ‘flasking’*

  63. #
    Q3
    September 29, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    He still has a green arrow!!
    #

    (clap clap)…Hercules…(clap clap)…Hercules….(clap clap)…Hercules

  64. The green arrow means people are still purchasing it? No arrow means ‘no sales? What does the red arrow mean?

  65. the green arrow indicates the most recent movement – Adam went up Babs went down.

    I realize this might not last all the way till Nov. 24th but I would love to see Adam stay in the Amazon top 100 for the 55 days left – overall count of 58 days – it would be nice to see him stay up

  66. Black Swan…. Green Arrow… Black Swan … Green Arrow….

    All is great. All is glam !It was a happy day first time I heard Adam sing.
    Now its a greater day anticipating new songs. Whatever incense, whatever glam offering on the Altar of the rock gods of music , I need to make – please give us at least Adam’s new song soon

    The song “One” has now come to mean many things in Adam nirvana including , just “One” song for now , and also to mean , to be number “One” .
    Black Swan…. Green Arrow…. Black Swan… Green Arrow

    Thanks guys you all are great !

  67. Taking a snapshot of that for posterity

    LOL, I did the same, and included Bab ´s going down (arrow pointing downwards while Adam ´s points up ;-)

  68. ‘“ overall count of 58 days ‘“ it would be nice to see him stay up

    hmmm…. why did viagra come to mind…

  69. I have no idea what you just said, or tried to say. Too many typos and too tangential.

    sorry,I was typing on my iPod and sometimes it changes words randomly and it’s hard to type long posts….:(

    Adam is my fav idol EVER and I haven’t even preordered yet’ ¦’ ¦..just keeping it real.

    me too expect change that to favorite singer ever…

  70. Funny you should ask, dsb …

    AimeeMayo writing…writing…writing…
    6 minutes ago from web

    She is of NO HELP lately. C’mon Aimee, we need flailing and scoop here woman!

  71. Oh, Aimee. what happened to those three songs of which you tweeted?

  72. Can someone please explain Black Swan, as I must have missed its meaning?

  73. All is glam

    YES!!!!

    brilliant lyrics suebrody

    hi dsp!!!!!!!!! :D

    did you find the link for those pictures?:)

  74. I suspect that Aimee was told to STFU :) RCA/19 is doing an AMAZING job keeping everything about Adam’s single and album under wraps. It seems to be “OK” to let it out you are working with him, but absolutely nothing else! Given the number of people that MUST be working on this, it is astounding that there has been so little information. The guy who tweeted earlier about the song being “catchy” deleted that tweet within a few minutes.

  75. Wicked Soundtrack is # 100 and it’s been in the top 100 for 1,032 days – impressive.

  76. vdid you find the link for those pictures?:)

    Luv those pics and their content are dead horse on this blog, according to our MJ ;-)

  77. pjd
    September 29, 2009 at 8:24 pm
    I suspect that Aimee was told to STFU RCA/19 is doing an AMAZING job keeping everything about Adam’s single and album under wraps. It seems to be ‘OK’  to let it out you are working with him, but absolutely nothing else! Given the number of people that MUST be working on this, it is astounding that there has been so little information. The guy who tweeted earlier about the song being ‘catchy’  deleted that tweet within a few minutes.

    heh heh. He was prob spanked good, too. And I’m pretty sure no one wants to cross TPTB– or Adam– on this, if they want to work with Adam in the future.

  78. dhunken
    September 29, 2009 at 8:10 pm
    Can I just set my internal alarms and Flash Forward directly to Nov. 24th!!??

    If you figure out away to do this please let me know before you Flash Forward!!

    Oops, saw this too late, dhunken. My 2:17 are up and I’m conscious again now. I’m not gonna spill the beans about what I saw on the 24th, but I think y’all are gonna like it….

  79. Who is this guy?

    ryanauld: had a great time with @adamlambert and @drakelabry! thanks for visiting and always too much fun. i’ll have to visit soon! miss yall already!

  80. adamaloha
    September 29, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    Suebrody’“ now I have fantasy ‘One’  earworm. :)

    Then my work here is done. ;)

  81. There is a much better pic of Adam at Barnes and Noble. I also noticed that Adam’s CD already has five “listener ratings”????? (not even at 5 stars!!!)

  82. Who is this guy?

    ryanauld: had a great time with @adamlambert and @drakelabry! thanks for visiting and always too much fun. i’ll have to visit soon! miss yall already!

    Probably a personal friend who doesn’t deserve to be stalked but is going to be now.

  83. So I’m confused

    why is Adam’s album listed at $9.99 on amazon.com, but both Kris’ and Alison’s are listed at $13.98? I don’t get that…I’d think it would be the other way around, if anything, given that there is more buzz about Adam…

    Anyway, right now on the amazon.com list

    Adam is at #1
    Kris is at #65
    Allison is at #197
    and Jason is at #306

  84. !

    Probably a personal friend who doesn’t deserve to be stalked but is going to be now.

    Unfortunately.

  85. why is Adam’s album listed at $9.99 on amazon.com, but both Kris’ and Alison’s are listed at $13.98?

    Barnes & Noble put Adam’s album on sale for $9.99 and Amazon followed suit.

  86. Thank you Susan M.- that is really awesome. I read Outliers recently, so this makes total sense.

  87. Studio57
    September 29, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    I was going to post this in the other thread but I am going to do it here. If you don’t want a Debby Downer post, please skip this one, lol.

    I’m so glad you posted this here. A breath of reality in a sea of flailing Adam fans. ;)

    I HOPE everything everyone is wishing and predicting for Adam comes true plus 100 times more,

    However, I learned the same lesson you did but my revelation was the “winner” of Season 5. Because of that, I’m more skeptical of my own excitement.

    Black Swan

  88. There is a much better pic of Adam at Barnes and Noble. I also noticed that Adam’s CD already has five ‘listener ratings’ ????? (not even at 5 stars!!!)

    It’s one of my pet peeves when people rate or review an album that has’t been released yet and they’ve obviously not heard it .. it seems to happen all the time especially if a person has a rabit fan base .. to me it kind of puts a mockery on the whole rating/review thing

    I notice on UK Amazon Susan Boyles has loads of review and ratings .. must be the “Boylettes and Boylers” going into overdrive …lol

  89. eck I dont like the picture amazon used of Adam…I sure hope its not his album cover…I’m pretty sure its not since he did a photo shoot for his album, which makes me wonder why they didnt use one of those pictures?
    Oh well. lol

  90. girly girl- I think someone said that once they sell a certain number the album gets discounted

  91. “The main idea in Taleb’s book is not to attempt to predict Black Swan events” LOL To Late.. :-)

  92. Who is this guy?

    ryanauld: had a great time with @adamlambert and @drakelabry! thanks for visiting and always too much fun. i’ll have to visit soon! miss yall already!

    Probably a personal friend who doesn’t deserve to be stalked but is going to be now.

    LMAO….I sooo agree with this.

  93. Yep, Adam’s album pic is soooo much cuter at barnes and noble.

    I wonder how many ppl think Adam’s album is going to be called TBD? ;)

    Isn’t the price point based, in part, on how many sales are being generated? And, of course, based on other realtors. The way it’s going, TBD is going to be down to $5.99 soon.

    ETA: It’s fun to listen to Blake’s new album whilst reading and posting to this thread. See his thread for details. It’s nice that everyone gets their own thread today. :)

  94. Oops, saw this too late, dhunken. My 2:17 are up and I’m conscious again now. I’m not gonna spill the beans about what I saw on the 24th, but I think y’all are gonna like it’ ¦.

    ROTFLMAO….as long as I am gonna like it I won’t harass you for details! ;-)

  95. I read several articles saying Jon Bon Jovi wants to collaborate with her and Mick Jagger thinks her version of Wild Horses is better than his

    Oh to be politically correct in the world of music….J Bon is using SuBo as a little bit of “keep myself in the limelight” (like he’d collaborate with a frumpy housewife) and Mick Jagger is just being nice to a middle aged spinster who is pretty emotionally fragile. Words are pretty cheap in this day and age….we have all heard them. Even our Idol favs get some hyperbole like this from their important “fans”. Do most people believe it…nah. Only the super invested! (Like me and Brian May).

  96. Mick Jagger is just being nice to a middle aged spinster who is pretty emotionally fragile.

    Also, don’t forget, as co-songwriter Mick’s cash register goes ka-ching every time SuBo’s version gets a spin.

  97. I can say that I am 90% sure that I will like Adam’s album. I like to listen to all genres, rock, pop, jazz, country, and electronica.

    As long as I can hear Adam’s voice and the songs are not overproduced or too bandzilla -even tho I like No Bo the some parts of the music are too loud relative to the rest of the song- I will be satisfied but I hope to be dazzled.

    I really miss not having interviews or new music video to watch.
    So lately I will watch the Ford Crazy duet. When I listen to him sing that song with gentle passion I rememer why I flail and sqee.

  98. Oh, halfie, you’re so cynical. ;)

    I have a feeling SuBo is a one-hit wonder, unlike Mr. Lambert. If I were Mick, I’d get off her train and hop aboard Adam’s.

  99. And, you can bet that if he puts Satisfaction on TBD, Mick will declare it, “better than his own version.”

  100. spinastory
    September 29, 2009 at 8:45 pm
    ‘The main idea in Taleb’s book is not to attempt to predict Black Swan events’  LOL To Late..

    Where is that quote from? Whoever wrote it missed the point of the book.

  101. Huge Adam fan here, wishing him only the best, but I also love Barbra and, to be fair, let’s note that she has TWO places at the top of the Amazon Bestseller list. Her album has both a deluxe and a standard version … if numbers for the two were added together, she might actually be at #1. And her actual sales numbers may be higher, as older sales count for less than newer sales on this list … she’s been on the list for a couple of months so many of her sales are old; Adams sales are all new. I can only wish for Adam’s career to have the diversity and longevity that Barbra’s has had.

  102. suebrody
    September 29, 2009 at 9:09 pm
    LOL, halfie.

    OTOH, this made me sad:

    IdolScott Doing a small impromptu concert at Small Town Coffee in Kapa’a tonight. Doors open at 7pm http://www.smalltowncoffee.com

    $5 cover.

    Why are you sad, he’s in Hawaii on vacation. Prolly having fun. Most places in my town would not charge for a venue like this

  103. halfie
    September 29, 2009 at 9:08 pm
    And, you can bet that if he puts Satisfaction on TBD, Mick will declare it, ‘better than his own version.’ 

    Have to say that Adam’s live version of “Satisfaction” is damn fine. But I want Adam to cover Rolling Stone’s “Play with Fire”. Sssssssstst!

  104. They finally gave Adam’s album a genre classification on Amazon!

    Product Details
    Audio CD (November 24, 2009)
    Number of Discs: 1
    Label: RCA
    ASIN: B002QEXN3O
    Amazon.com Sales Rank: #1 in Music (See Bestsellers in Music)
    Popular in these categories: (What’s this?)

    #1 in Music > Rock
    #1 in Music > Pop

    And he STILL has a green arrow!! That means sales trend is still up and units sold are increasing!!

    ETA: Adam is #2 on Best Buy preorders — Tokio Hotel better watch out!!

  105. karend
    September 29, 2009 at 9:15 pm
    Huge Adam fan here, wishing him only the best, but I also love Barbra and, to be fair, let’s note that she has TWO places at the top of the Amazon Bestseller list. Her album has both a deluxe and a standard version ‘ ¦ if numbers for the two were added together, she might actually be at #1. And her actual sales numbers may be higher, as older sales count for less than newer sales on this list ‘ ¦ she’s been on the list for a couple of months so many of her sales are old; Adams sales are all new. I can only wish for Adam’s career to have the diversity and longevity that Barbra’s has had.

    Love Barbra, but Adam is #1 with a green arrow and only on the chart for 3 days — so that makes it impossible that Barbra sold more units in the past 4 or 5 hours. Actually the #2 headed up could be selling more, but not the #2 heading down. And Barbra did great on her Amazon presale.

    ETA: I just got your point. SInce Babs delux is #4 and the Babs 1 disc is #2, if you combined them she is probably selling more units. Could be. But there is not way to know the difference between #1 and #2 + #4. So who knows.

  106. Wow, good job Adam.

    That being said, with all the cool new pics of Adam, why did they have to put that old lame one up there? You can barely see him.

  107. The AMAZING things is that an album that DOES NOT YET EXIST is #1. Has that ever happened before?

  108. Jai is so sweet

    jairodriguez just found out Adam Lamberts CD is #1 on Amazon presale list! I love him. Can’t wait.26 minutes ago from web

  109. It’s 21.35 EST/ 18.35 PST Which means that my hopes for real news today have expired.

    Oh well, there’s always tomorrow.

    Black Swan.

  110. Just finished reading through this thread and the headlines. It’s been a busy day. I thought it would take several more days or weeks for Adam to get to #1. This is a pleasant surprise.

    I’m taking one day at a time. Celebrate today, worry about the significance later. The ride is exhilarating.

  111. Amazon US has just put a limit of one Adam CD per order. At least that is what I just got when I tried to order 2.

    ETA: I have never gotten this on an Amazon pre-Order before. Ha sanyone else?

    ETA: I just retried and it let me order 2. Must have been a systems issue. Thank goodness!

  112. Q3, I agree with you that Adam’s current sales are probably higher than Barbra’s, but she has the benefit of two months’ worth of presales … I was just referring to their position on the chart, which might be different if Barbra’s two versions were added together. Now that Barbra’s album has been released I’m sure her numbers will begin to decline, with Adam’s continuing at a high pace thru his release date (and hopefully beyond!).

  113. karend
    September 29, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    karend
    Huge Adam fan here, wishing him only the best, but I also love Barbra and, to be fair, let’s note that she has TWO places at the top of the Amazon Bestseller list. Her album has both a deluxe and a standard version ‘ ¦ if numbers for the two were added together, she might actually be at #1. And her actual sales numbers may be higher, as older sales count for less than newer sales on this list ‘ ¦ she’s been on the list for a couple of months so many of her sales are old; Adams sales are all new. I can only wish for Adam’s career to have the diversity and longevity that Barbra’s has had.

    (finger in ears)…..la la la la la….I can’t hear you….la la la la la la :-)

  114. Still, Drake’s Mom should be savvy enough to protect her updates. Otherwise, one should presume she’s enjoying the attention.

    Twitter is a micro-blog service. 140 character length blogging. That was its self-definition when founded. All tweets are like a teeny-weeny blog post to your own @Name blog. That is why tweets can be searched on Google. They’re worldwide web posts. It is not texting. Texting is private. Reading someone’s texts is an invasion of privacy. Reading someone’s Tweets is like reading a billboard you pass by on the street. That’s what it’s there for.

    There is some confusion, because both texting and Tweeting can happen on phones. But texting is what you do when you only want your real friends to know something. Tweeting is what you do when you want an audience.

    The entire point of (unprotected) Twitter is to share with as many people as possible. That’s why the timeline is searchable. (They are actually looking at ways to market the searchability) People who tweet have two choices about who reads their tweeting: 1) The entire Universe who owns a computer and/or has a cell phone. 2) Only their followers. Which is what happens if you have protected tweets.

    One in five tweets mention a brand name. It is – until people catch on — the ideal product placement mechanism, no one knows you’re a plant. (Most people searching the timeline, looking for a recommedation for a movie or a product, don’t click to check out every twitterer.)

    If you’re a celebrity, Twitter is advertising. If you’re a relative of a boyfriend of a celebrity, you may want, from a full and happy heart, to share with the world. But if you don’t, then text, email, or phone call.

    It is people thinking it’s personal, or having some confusion about it being personal, that is allowing Twitter to become an even larger advertising tool. Though, it’s only their rigid profanity filter that’s kept it from being overrun by porn. But the clever porn-ers find their ways. If they don’t keep it porn free they won’t be able to offer new and different premium Tweet services to corporations to use Twitter as paid advertising.

  115. Amazon US has just put a limit of one Adam CD per order. At least that is what I just got when I tried to order 2.

    Really – I only ordered one yesterday, but I wonder why they would place a limit.

  116. Amazon US has just put a limit of one Adam CD per order. At least that is what I just got when I tried to order 2.

    Makes you wonder how many people try to order 20,000 copies to bump up the numbers knowing full well their credit card won’t be charged until they ship, which, oh, by the way, is not for almost 2 months, plenty of time to cancel said order when the hoopla over pre-sales numbers dies down!

  117. Amazon US has just put a limit of one Adam CD per order. At least that is what I just got when I tried to order 2.

    ETA: I have never gotten this on an Amazon pre-Order before. Ha sanyone else?

    queue Conspiracy theory music. That makes no sense. Why would Amazon limit its own sales? Are they concerned about people jacking with the top seller listing?

  118. I’m taking one day at a time. Celebrate today, worry about the significance later. The ride is exhilarating.

    Well said, and I agree!

    Jai is so sweet

    jairodriguez just found out Adam Lamberts CD is #1 on Amazon presale list! I love him. Can’t wait.26 minutes ago from web

    I recognize that name from somewhere (this blog, maybe?), but I can’t recall who Jai is. Can anyone clue me in?

  119. ETA: Adam is #2 on Best Buy preorders ‘” Tokio Hotel better watch out!!

    Amazon, Best Buy, Barnes and Noble….I am hearing thunder and seeing flashes of lighting from the Adamstorm.

  120. Amazon US has just put a limit of one Adam CD per order. At least that is what I just got when I tried to order 2.

    ETA: I have never gotten this on an Amazon pre-Order before. Ha sanyone else?

    That makes no sense, Q3, it’s a pre-order. You order 20, they order 20.

    Unless, when they dropped the price to $9.99, which I thought was because Barnes & Noble and Best Buy decided to step up their game, they ran into global wholesalers/resellers? But wouldn’t they limit it to 10 or something? Though I guess wholesalers could open 50 accounts.

    On the other hand, if it’s not just a glitch, and it is a resellers thing, well that speaks well for international appeal, doesn’t it?

  121. queue Conspiracy theory music. That makes no sense. Why would Amazon limit its own sales? Are they concerned about people jacking with the top seller listing?

    perhaps Babs has been in touch with Amazon asking for a favour …lol

  122. I recognize that name from somewhere (this blog, maybe?), but I can’t recall who Jai is. Can anyone clue me in?

    He was the culture guy on Queer Eye for the Straight guy. Fab Five.

  123. The Barbra Streisand Music Guide thinks Amazon.com presales are important enough to mention. Just sayin…
    http://www.bjsmusic.com/

    Her deluxe album hit #1 on 9/27

    “I can only wish for Adam’s career to have the diversity and longevity that Barbra’s has had.”

    Here! Hear! (?)

  124. I wonder how many ppl think Adam’s album is going to be called TBD?

    Laughed much, Sue.

    Then thought of meetings where someone would say, Well, it’s tested well, and we think it’s the order of the letters, not just the letters themselves, so maybe we should consider…

    Makes you wonder how many people try to order 20,000 copies to bump up the numbers knowing full well their credit card won’t be charged until they ship,

    Ooh, anthrogeek, that is a very good point. Maybe Amazon’s gotten burned before.

  125. FHS – I got a message that said there was a limit of 1 CD per order. There is a similar report on IDF of this happening. I thought they were limiting orders, but I retried and it let me order 2.

  126. Customers Who Bought This Item Also Bought “Votivo Red Currant Candle”. I’m sure my staff thought I was crazy. LMAO off when I read this in one of the posts on AO.

  127. I recognize that name from somewhere (this blog, maybe?), but I can’t recall who Jai is. Can anyone clue me in?

    He was the culture guy on Queer Eye for the Straight guy. Fab Five.

    He’s also performed at Upright, and I think he might know Adam from there. IIRC he also tweeted awhile back that he missed seeing Adam sing around town at some point after Adam started Idol.

    Also, I hope I don’t offend anyone here, especially because I do love the theory behind the words … but seeing Black Swan repeated over and over again in post after post, and once again a new person (or at least a non-regular poster) having to ask in confusion what the heck it means is starting to make me feel all Groundhog Day. And clique-y, somehow.

  128. Unless, when they dropped the price to $9.99, which I thought was because Barnes & Noble and Best Buy decided to step up their game, they ran into global wholesalers/resellers? But wouldn’t they limit it to 10 or something? Though I guess wholesalers could open 50 accounts.

    Best Buy is still at $13.99.

    All retailers, including Amazon have terms that say: “We reserve the right to limit quantities.” And for IP products, electronics, licensed products and a number of other products that have “authorized dealers”, there are also a variety of limitation to make sure that retailers/authorized dealers do not supply “foriegn” resellers or unauthorized dealers.

  129. FHS ‘“ I got a message that said there was a limit of 1 CD per order. There is a similar report on IDF of this happening. I thought they were limiting orders, but I retried and it let me order 2.

    Just for fun I tried to order 6, and received a message back that my order had been adjusted to 3 because of a limit on what could be ordered!

  130. #
    Q3
    September 29, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    FHS ‘“ I got a message that said there was a limit of 1 CD per order. There is a similar report on IDF of this happening. I thought they were limiting orders, but I retried and it let me order 2.

    I ordered two already and checked today, and I can still order two.
    I dare not go check again, I might just click 2+0 after the 2 = 20 – with my current state of glamphoria.
    My sisters have ordered as well. They were funny they said that the CD might just be like Rolling Stone Mag – go out of print. And I thought they were not Adam fans just casual listeners.

  131. http://adamlambertobsession.blogspot.com/2009/09/for-bestudded-glittery-anoraks.html

    Just finished watching the video on this blog for the entry dated 9/29/09 after it was recommended on another site. It’s a fascinating video contrasting Adam’s AI performances with the dress rehearsal footage (shown at the end of the show for phone numbers). I have to say it’s amazing how different some performances were from the dress rehearsal to live performance and to me, shows how instinctual and innovative he can be when singing. Have a look see, it’s pretty interesting.

    ETA: No boundaries sounded better in dress rehearsal I think.

  132. I think I like those whiskers

    Yeah, he looks good. Though he has sported whiskers before, maybe he wanted to shake the “little boy” look for now.

  133. for some reason watching the whiskered video makes me think of “edgy with a smile”

    “hi, im adam… i know i look like a sexy pirate, but im going to talk to you about this really sweet thing we all just did together”

  134. Kanadie Bonttell
    September 29, 2009 at 9:43 pm
    Adams thank you video for charity ‘“ we have whiskers!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqMsiJ6pqko&feature=player_embedded

    I love that Adam starts out saying..”click on my name to donate” then stops and says, “screw it, you don’t have to click on my name just do it yourself if you want to…” or something like that.

    The point being.. he doesn’t care if he gets credit or not– he just wants the kids to benefit.

  135. really dyg1?I thought she said that aboutthe NOLAlics.I meant the avatar ones.thanks for looking though:D D D!!!!!<3

    okayyyyy news I have some englishand history homework left for tommorow but otherwise im DOONE!!!!!!

    okay really have to leave tonight.goodnight!!!!!

    black swan…

  136. Kanadie Bonttell: Just for fun I tried to order 6, and received a message back that my order had been adjusted to 3 because of a limit on what could be ordered!

    I guess no one is ordering 20,000. LOL!

    OK just for fun I tried Kris Allen and it lets you order 30 CD’s. Of the top 10 there is a 3 unit limit on everything except #9 Michael Buble (30 limit) but headed down. So it looks like a best seller limit.

  137. can’t edit-but I subscribed to riolling stone through a school fundraiser just for their Adam love haha

  138. lol … yes Adam is a cross between one of The Three Musketeers and Zorro in that video .. it’s kind of growing on me (well not literally)

    Is it not Thursday yet? … I’m desperate for this 2012 promo ad .. I wonder what time it will be on UK TV

  139. Adams thank you video for charity ‘“ we have whiskers!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqMsiJ6pqko&feature=player_embedded

    I think I like those whiskers more, now that I see them ‘live’ .

    I love em Johnny Depp, so I love em on Adam. He looks great! His eyes are more alluring with all that dark “shadings” on his face.

    And great guy – he doesn’t even care if you continue supporting DC.org without crediting him – he just want you to continue supporting the kids.

  140. WOOT! So I get home and check mj’s – and see this amazing good news for Adam. Hooray for Adam! Congrats!

    And yes, I’m just enjoying the moment :-)

  141. http://adamlambertobsession.blogspot.com/2009/09/for-bestudded-glittery-anoraks.html

    Wow. That’s incredible. Thanks for sharing. I had a *feeling* that he nailed MW in rehearsal but lost breath and therefore went pitchy on the final note (which was not the case in the finale MW). What I have noticed is that, b/c the rehearsal footage is what Idol uses to show the contestant’s numbers, b/c they are TOO STUPID TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO USE INSTANT REPLAY, it is often much different, and often better. I found this to be the case with Feeling Good and also with One. I always wished we could see both performances to compare them, and this video gives us some insight.

    Anyway…I’ve got my amazon pre-sale in hand, will do the iTunes download, and will try to get the Elle magazine (I have been searching, but the October issue is still on the stands, boooo).

    Adam is just a good guy who is insanely gifted. That’s just who he is. But someone tell him he needs to shave. BRING BACK EMO!ADAM. !!!!

  142. I love em Johnny Depp, so I love em on Adam. He looks great! His eyes are more alluring with all that dark ‘shadings’  on his face.

    I like too. Love the eyes! Wow – so brilliant in that vid! And his hair is looking fab too :-) Plus, I love the fact that you look at him now, and almost have to do a double-take – whoa, wait! Is that Adam?

  143. On Amazon UK you could order up to 6 but on the US site only 3.

    Luv, sorry, I though you were referring to the NOLA pics. MJ does not want to read anything related to facial h….., etc. ;-)

  144. I love that Adam starts out saying..’ click on my name to donate’  then stops and says, ‘screw it, you don’t have to click on my name just do it yourself if you want to’ ¦’  or something like that.

    LOL! Yes, I loved that bit too.

  145. lol…been having fun reading some of the comments…some of u guys are hilarious…just a sidenote on the whole Barbara Streisand thing with her two cd’s…I was expecting her cd’s to sell (well) because for those that dont know she was recently on Oprah and performed some songs… and her new album was advertised, (Oprah=millions of viewers=lots of cd sales) whereas Adam’s cd pre-sale, as some have pointed out spread by word of mouth and shot straight to no.1 and that is impressive especially considering most ppl now a days don’t purchase music anymore…
    also, for those contemplating on someone’s comment about not being able to order multiple copies of the cd, they edited their comment and rectified that…read the comment again lol.

  146. Adam is just a good guy who is insanely gifted. That’s just who he is.

    THIS and yknow he’s a glitttery alien

    ummm Kay goodnight for real this time….:)
    I promise…..

  147. I like too. Love the eyes! Wow ‘“ so brilliant in that vid!

    Yes. Those eyes.

  148. I’ve watched this thing five times – his eyes look fantastic.

    Okay now give me some music!

  149. mary102 I like too. Love the eyes! Wow ‘“ so brilliant in that vid! And his hair is looking fab too Plus, I love the fact that you look at him now, and almost have to do a double-take ‘“ whoa, wait! Is that Adam?

    I do like a little variety…. I think he looks bad. In a deliciously good way. I would like him to take me prisoner and tie me up… ummm… sorry….

  150. so who is on “green arrow watch” right now… is there some sort of alarm that is going to go off over here when he doesnt have the green arrow anymore. (i mean if, i mean…nope not gonna happen).

    ;)

  151. It’s 21.35 EST/ 18.35 PST Which means that my hopes for real news today have expired.

    Oh well, there’s always tomorrow.

    Well, no real album news, but the news and media mentions for the pre-sales are more than I could hope for today :-) I’ll say it again, the more free publicity he can get, this early in the game, the better!

  152. You know RCA/19 found gold with this guy when it comes to marketing. He markets himself, they don’t have to spend a dime.

  153. for some reason watching the whiskered video makes me think of ‘edgy with a smile’ 

    ‘hi, im adam’ ¦ i know i look like a sexy pirate, but im going to talk to you about this really sweet thing we all just did together’ 

    Yep. He does look so different with just that slight change, but he can’t help but exude that light and charisma.

    Adam is just a good guy who is insanely gifted. That’s just who he is.

    THIS and yknow he’s a glitttery alien

    ummm Kay goodnight for real this time’ ¦.:)
    I promise’ ¦..

    Yep, and this too! Night luv!

  154. I love seeing a new video from Adam, and as a teacher, I really appreciate how he has endorsed this charity.

    I also love the part where he says people dont have to contribute in his name… it makes me feel even more like he truly just is excited for kids to get opportunities to develop their artistic talents. What is not to like about this guy?

    Thanks for the rehearsal footage. I hadn’t realized that they played rehearsal footage during the time they show contestants’ numbers, although thinking back over it, I can definitely remember knowing there was something different feeling about the clips, ha.

  155. so who is on ‘green arrow watch’  right now’ ¦ is there some sort of alarm that is going to go off over here when he doesnt have the green arrow anymore. (i mean if, i mean’ ¦nope not gonna happen).

    Green arrow still erect!

    And LMAO at the Barnes and Noble artist biography page for Adam. Under “similar artists” it says Kris Allen.

    LOL- huh?

  156. Just an FYI – Adam’s twitter followers passed 195,000 today. Still on track for 200,000 in very early October. Unless something happens to speed it up (TFM or single?) my guess is it will be this weekend.

  157. OTOH, this made me sad:

    IdolScott Doing a small impromptu concert at Small Town Coffee in Kapa’a tonight. Doors open at 7pm http://www.smalltowncoffee.com

    $5 cover.

    Why are you sad, he’s in Hawaii on vacation. Prolly having fun. Most places in my town would not charge for a venue like this

    Oh. Okay, nvm. I guess I couldn’t see Adison doing that. Or Matt.

    Anyway…I have a Danny story! Someone I was with this weekend went to Milwaukee for a convention. Lo and behold, who was there but DANNY. He gave a presentation but was NOT allowed to sing anything (19, I guess). But a few girls were all excited and got autographs and pictures. This guy said Danny was very nice.

    Back to our regularly scheduled Squee!Fest, already in progress. Oh, and some ppl on Twitter are asking me when TFM will be released (like I have inside information…I wish, paging Aimee Mayo). I said I *thought* that TFM would be included in the 2012 roadblock Thursday night (if not, HEADS WILL ROLL) but that I didn’t know when the actual single would be released. Guesses? Friday? Friday w/ video? Next Tuesday?

  158. Leonardo diCaprio can play Adam

    Sorry to be Out of Topic but hey, facial “shadings” like on Johnny Depp and Leonardo diCaprio and now Adam can be gorgeous . Not only double take gorgeous but drop dead flailing gorgeous.

    And yes – enough with gorgeous looks – makes the wanting for music more intense.

    Are they waiting for the 2012 Time for Miracles to come out before they launch Adam’s debut single ?

  159. mary102 I like too. Love the eyes! Wow ‘“ so brilliant in that vid! And his hair is looking fab too Plus, I love the fact that you look at him now, and almost have to do a double-take ‘“ whoa, wait! Is that Adam?

    I do like a little variety’ ¦. I think he looks bad. In a deliciously good way. I would like him to take me prisoner and tie me up’ ¦ ummm’ ¦ sorry’ ¦.

    Okay now, seriously, THIS too! LOL adamaloha!! Dang, I’m starving. Must go make dinner. Haven’t watched the dress rehearsal vid yet (reminds me of some poster during the season that was convinced Adam was getting preferential treatment because his end videos weren’t the same as his performances. Um, dude, no one’s were … hello)

    Yeah, he’s a doll baby in that DonorsChoose video. Eyes = Dead.

  160. He was the culture guy on Queer Eye for the Straight guy. Fab Five.

    And appeared in Off-Bway plays here in NYC.

  161. Under ‘similar artists’  it says Kris Allen.

    LOL…who writes these I wonder? I bet that would make Adam and Kris both really laugh if either of them ever read it.

    btw – Adam in Donors org. = nice in more ways than one!

  162. Well, Adam and Kris were both on Idol, so aren’t they pretty much the same type of artist? NOOOO???

    BTW, what does IIRC stand for? (You would think I would know it by this time.)

  163. good work greeneyedlady! i guess you should be the one on GREEN arrow watch :)

    Has it been longer than four hours?

    LOL!

    ETA: with regard to the similar artists thing – i have the same issue with Pandora. i created an Adam radio station and it includes other idols in the play list and mostly Kris. i thought it based your play list on the musical characteristics of the songs, but i guess other factors play into it like them both being on idol “albums”.

  164. readon: Has it been longer than four hours?

    It’s 5 hours since Adam hit #1 — about 3:30 EST.

  165. readon
    September 29, 2009 at 10:38 pm
    Green arrow still erect!

    Has it been longer than four hours?

    LOL

  166. readon
    September 29, 2009 at 10:38 pm
    Green arrow still erect!

    Has it been longer than four hours?

    LOL

    Ok. I stole it from someone else who was commenting on RS, but I couldn’t help myself.

  167. Oprah=millions of viewers=lots of cd sales

    That’s why I can’t figure out why so many are opposed to Adam appearing on Oprah … who cares if it’s *ahem* older ladies buying … it’s still a sale, and goes towards the dimmers in that new house …

  168. Thanks to dhunken and sidewalkstory for identifying Jai for me. I’m in awe of how informative so many of you are on this blog!

  169. readon
    September 29, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    Green arrow still erect!

    Has it been longer than four hours?

    LOL

    Ok. I stole it from someone else who was commenting on RS, but I couldn’t help myself.

    ROFL :))

    And sure, I’ll take green arrow watch for a while. It’s not like I have a life or anything.

  170. I am enjoying watching Adam on this page of Amazon Best Selling items.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers

    He is in league with Dan Brown, Wizard of Oz and Levi pants. Cool !
    And he has the green arrow !

    This is nuts. Can we go to bed and wake up with maybe Time for Miracles ?
    I think it is literally time for some Miracle or so many are now unable to stop flailing until some music comes out.

  171. ROFL )

    And sure, I’ll take green arrow watch for a while. It’s not like I have a life or anything.

    The green arrow should have a name. I think it’s Bob.

  172. The green arrow should have a name. I think it’s Bob.

    Rod might be more appropriate…..

  173. The green arrow should have a name. I think it’s Bob.

    Rod might be more appropriate’ ¦..

    LMAO. Cosmo is now all over screen. Clean up required.

  174. readon
    September 29, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    ROFL )

    And sure, I’ll take green arrow watch for a while. It’s not like I have a life or anything.

    The green arrow should have a name. I think it’s Bob.

    Rod might be more appropriate’ ¦..

    Ok… Rod is still up!… 8O oh wait maybe not such a good idea… (thank God you did not want to name it “Richard”) ;-)

  175. I wonder if Adam (or his album or or both) comes packaged with Wii. I just don’t want the Glenn Beck book. He is an evil, evil man.

    The Red Sox lost (AGAIN? WTF? FIVE STRAIGHT!!!) so I need some cheering up. I can always come to an Adam thread to cheer me up. :)

    So…do you think we get TFM tomorrow night? You know, that could even increase sales…

    ETA: 211 posts, ppl. We can do better than that…

  176. the green arrow sounds like a superhero. or it’s like the bat signal for the glittery alien.

    ETA: “Rod” – im dying.

  177. He is in league with Dan Brown, Wizard of Oz and Levi pants. Cool !
    And he has the green arrow !

    Yes! And Dan Brown DOESN’T have a green arrow.

    (But Mr. Squiggles, the Zhu Zhu pet hamster, does.)

  178. the green arrow sounds like a superhero.

    You’re killing me.

    ETA: ‘Rod’  ‘“ im dying.

    OMG

  179. I just watched the video with the rehearsal clips. Adam is just fabulous. The way he changes the way he sings at every performance is amazing. And his voice. I listen to Adam while I am driving, working, cooking, walking in the street and I never get tired. But ROF is special, I get goose bumps every time I listen to it, and when I watch the video, better don ´t say what I get ;-)

    The Donorschoose video: the other side of Adam, sweet and always sexy but in a different way.

  180. (But Mr. Squiggles, the Zhu Zhu pet hamster, does.)

    I’ve reverted to twelve on this one.

  181. The green arrow should have a name. I think it’s Bob.

    Okay, I’m going with Bob. anthrogeek, Rod kinda sounds like a porn star name, and after last night’s thread, I’m gonna try to be good.

    And Bob is still standing tall, at the top of the hour…

  182. And Bob is still standing tall, at the top of the hour’ ¦

    OMG. No. Just stop. You guys are killing me.

  183. I love that Adam starts out saying..’ click on my name to donate’  then stops and says, ‘screw it, you don’t have to click on my name just do it yourself if you want to’ ¦’  or something like that.

    The point being.. he doesn’t care if he gets credit or not’“ he just wants the kids to benefit.

    ….and this is who Adam really is..No Diva here….Just a extremely talented, kind, compassionate, giving human being. At least that is what I see.

  184. I’m not opposed to Adam being on oprah–she’s one of the strongest brand influencers in the us. I never watch her, but an appearance on her show would do more to promote the Adam lambert brand than just about anything he could do. There really is no downside. Who cares if the audience is filled with all the middle aged moms. He could easily shake it off with a subsequent performane at some sort of alternative venue.

  185. I was on my way to home when I learned that Adam made #1 in Amazon. Since then I can’t help smiling. Even the wind in the windy city can’t blow the grin off my face. Then I headed to a class. I was in such a good mood that I not only took class notes but also answered some stupid and obvious questions. The professor was happy too. Conclusion, Adam doing good makes the rest of the world better.

  186. I will NOT watch Oprah, but a lot of ppl will, so PUT HIM ON OPRAH, RCA/19!!!

    I keep tweeting Ellen to put him on her show? Okay, I know he’s a tad busy recording his album (and videos?!), but still…maybe he’ll do it at the same time as the GMA concert?

    ETA: Becky, it’s a funny thing, but Adam seems to have that effect on people.

    And I’m feeling, I’m feeling, I’m feeelinnnnnnnnnngggggg…..gooooood.

  187. suebrody
    September 29, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    I will NOT watch Oprah, but a lot of ppl will, so PUT HIM ON OPRAH, RCA/19!!!

    Come on…if Adam is on…you know will….or at least watch a YouTube Video of the interview….come on fess up…I won’t judge if you buckle under the pressure. :P …..Because I sure the hell will…

  188. I love that Adam starts out saying..’ click on my name to donate’  then stops and says, ‘screw it, you don’t have to click on my name just do it yourself if you want to’ ¦’  or something like that.

    The point being.. he doesn’t care if he gets credit or not’“ he just wants the kids to benefit.

    ‘ ¦.and this is who Adam really is..No Diva here’ ¦.Just a extremely talented, kind, compassionate, giving human being. At least that is what I see.

    That is what I see too. I am so glad that he introduced us to this charity. The arts are important. I have connected to all of the projects that I donated to. It reminded me of my intro into music and how important it was for me and my family. I want these kids to experience what I did.

    I will continue to seek out projects that resonate with me, but I am going to do it not just because of Adam, but because it feels right. I am glad that he said we don’t have to do it in his name because I think that time has passed. We should continue to do it because in our hearts we feel it is the right thing to do.

  189. I’ve got my TIVO set to capture Adam Lambert on anything. I love his interviews.

  190. I was heading to bed, but I found this on Twitter and thought it was fun:

    sovmel: @adamlambert Ur ~controversial new style has split ur fans into 3 factions: Team Facial Hair, Team Shave Now, & IDGAF JustLeakADamnSongNow!

    (looking around making sure MJ is not around)

  191. ETA: Yeah, if Adam’s on Oprah, I’ll buckle. Or unbuckle. You know’ ¦

    ROTFLMAO….I hear ya!!!!

  192. sovmel: @adamlambert Ur ~controversial new style has split ur fans into 3 factions: Team Facial Hair, Team Shave Now, & IDGAF JustLeakADamnSongNow!

    I’m on Team IDGAF JustLeakASongNow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  193. That was a nice video he did and the money went to a very good (and underfunded) cause.

    I’ll be honest and say I don’t think he’s even remotely attractive with this new look. I can’t quite place why but it looks strange to me and I usually like guys with facial hair. It distracted me through the whole video and not in a good way.

  194. sovmel: @adamlambert Ur ~controversial new style has split ur fans into 3 factions: Team Facial Hair, Team Shave Now, & IDGAF JustLeakADamnSongNow!

    I’m on Team IDGAF JustLeakASongNow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Sign me up for this team.

  195. Aww. Just watched the charity thank-you vid, and honestly, could he be any sweeter and more real? Just a nice guy who wants kids to have the opportunity to be creative. And I’m sure it’s just a coincidence that the door behind him looks like my bedroom door…

    And as for Bob, am I misremembering, or wasn’t there a green dildo-like object tossed onstage at one of the concerts? Perhaps it was a sign…. If only we had been able to recognize it then LOL!

  196. sovmel: @adamlambert Ur ~controversial new style has split ur fans into 3 factions: Team Facial Hair, Team Shave Now, & IDGAF JustLeakADamnSongNow!

    I’m on Team IDGAF JustLeakASongNow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    LOL
    Well, I want to be on teams 2 and 3, but I desperately need Team 3 to win. So: IDGAF FTW!!! (If TFM isn’t part of the roadblock Thursday night, so help me God, it’s gonna get ugly.)

  197. That’s why I can’t figure out why so many are opposed to Adam appearing on Oprah ‘ ¦ who cares if it’s *ahem* older ladies buying ‘ ¦ it’s still a sale, and goes towards the dimmers in that new house ‘ ¦

    Adam getting on Oprah a week before the album drops = probably single biggest coup he could pull off. She is huge! And I would be very very very happy if it were to happen (but I’m not sure how those things wind up happening in the first place…)

    However, with his talent, rise to fame, backstory, and helping out schools with donorschoose – he has a lot of great angles to work onto her show, imo. Come on, RCA – the ball is in your court (or 19 – not sure who takes charge with this…)

  198. Well, I want to be on teams 2 and 3, but I desperately need Team 3 to win.

    Suebrody your killing me tonight!!! :-)

  199. I can’t wait to hear one of Adam’s new songs. I am hoping for this week. I hope it’s good. TFM or new single, IDC.

    This has been a great day, but I need to sleep so that I can work tomorrow. Adam is #1. I will sleep well on that sentiment.

  200. adamaloha, I wanted two copies, one for me, and one for eBay, but I couldn’t get the 2nd one ANYWHERE IN BOSTON–the 1st one came from my supervisor–so I had to make do with copy #1. I never thought the EW cover would get such play. Wow. Thankfully, I sub to EW. It’s a good thing I ordered TBA, b/c who knows how long *that* will stay on the shelves (or what it will cost).

    TBA: The Big Asterick.

  201. I do not get the animosity toward Oprah. What? Are we still in the ’80s? Oprah has been consistently positive, empowering and generous and operates at the highest level of integrity.

    She has made millionaires out of how many guests and contributors? She has launched the careers of more people than any of us will ever know. She has saved countless lives and paid for more educations (college and otherwise, here and throughout the world) than many international foundations.

    I truly don’t get the negative backlash, other than it’s perpetuated by people who don’t watch her show. There is a Midas touch in this world, and it’s being anointed by Oprah. And Ellen is right there behind her.

    They are both profoundly powerful women and it will only benefit Adam to be endorsed by them.

  202. ontd_ai won a chat with Adam. Lots ppl there don’t like the face hair. Maybe they can ask him why and suggest him maybe (just maybe) change it back (i mean shave it).

    Adam shout out to ontd_ai

    Nevertheless, I’m happy we finally get some new Adam videos. God knows how long I’ve been waiting for my Adam fix. Face hair or not, staying #1 or not, doesn’t matter. just give us something to fill in our time before his single and album drop.

    Tomorrow we may not have as many exciting news as today, but we have Thursday to look forward to. 2012 better include TFM in the promotion otherwise there will be a lot of arms in the air. Then next week, we will hear his first single (OMG). He will do radio and magazine interviews. Adam storm is coming. That will keep us flailing through October. Then early-mid Nov he will guest in TV shows to promote his album (OMFG). Lotta Adam Lotta Love!!!

    ETA, I’m on Team IDGAF JustLeakASongNow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ETAA, Adam will delivery some school suppliers to one of the classes, so hopeful we can get video of that too.

  203. ontd_ai won a chat with Adam.

    Ooh, that’s cool. When does THAT happen?

    Well, if there is not more news tomorrow, at least we will be ONE DAY CLOSER TO THE ROADBLOCK. And roads WILL BE BLOCKED if there is no TFM.

  204. Lotta Adam Lotta Love!!!

    I think we just found the mantra for team IDGAF JustLeakASongNow!

  205. ontd_ai won a chat with Adam. Lots ppl there don’t like the face hair. Maybe they can ask him why and suggest him maybe (just maybe) change it back (i mean shave it).

    Adam shout out to ontd_ai

    Nevertheless, I’m happy we finally get some new Adam videos. God knows how long I’ve been waiting for my Adam fix. Face hair or not, staying #1 or not, doesn’t matter. just give us something to fill in our time before his single and album drop.

    Tomorrow we may not have as many exciting news as today, but we have Thursday to look forward to. 2012 better include TFM in the promotion otherwise there will be a lot of arms in the air. Then next week, we will hear his first single. He will do radio and magazine interviews. Adam storm is coming. That will keep us flailing through October. Then early-mid Nov he will guest in TV shows to promote his album. Lotta Adam Lotta Love!!!

    ETA, I’m on Team IDGAF JustLeakASongNow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ontd_ai……..are you listening? :)

    I’m on Team Shave Now ….. I need him to shave before he releases a song and has to be out there promoting it which he cannot do with that stuff messing up his beautiful face! Shave now, then leak the song!

  206. I moved my post to the DonorsChoose thread before, but I guess I didn’t need to as the discussion is going on here.

    I’m on Team Shave Now.

  207. I need him to shave before he releases a song and has to be out there promoting it which he cannot do with that stuff messing up his beautiful face! Shave now, then leak the song!

    Clearone…I am sure he will. Glitter and eyeshadow does not got well with facial hair. When it comes time for him to make public appearances to promote his album he will definitely be clean shaven as it will give him the freedom of a wider rage of looks. Adam never likes to be pigeonholed into one look.

  208. I need him to shave before he releases a song and has to be out there promoting it which he cannot do with that stuff messing up his beautiful face! Shave now, then leak the song!

    I’m sure he will if only for marketing purposes. All those promo photos and the album covershoot were clean-shaven – they are NOT going to want to confuse anyone with a different look for the promo appearances!

  209. Update:

    Bob the Green Arrow still firmly upright at #1 for Adam (brb squeeing)

    OT: Kris has risen to #57, but it seems like his green arrow is smaller…

  210. greeneyedlady
    September 30, 2009 at 12:06 am

    Update:

    Bob the Green Arrow still firmly upright at #1 for Adam (brb squeeing)

    OT: Kris has risen to #57, but it seems like his green arrow is smaller’ ¦

    OMG you went there…LOL

  211. HA HA HA

    Back on track, and you can discuss this amongst yourself:

    Will we hear TFM during the roadblock, and if so, during the 1st 2 minutes or during final 3 (the extended cut)?
    Will it be in its entirety?
    Whether it is or not, will it be released as a single on Friday?
    Will said single by accompanied by a video?
    Will single #2 (TBN) be released on 10/5, 10/12, or 10/19
    Will this be decided, at least in part, by the TFM release?

    Thanks in advance for your responses. Good night.

    suebrody, team IDGAF JLADSN

  212. I’ve been gone for about 3 1/2 hours and am happy to see that Adam’s green arrow is firmly erect and that his album is still in the No.1 amazon spot. More than that, it’s so sweet to see this happy randy joy pervading the thread. Happy sigh. Adam does make the world a brighter place.

  213. ravengirl, please keep the oh-so-much-fun thread going. I notice that the Adam ones are far more active than the others. I guess we are a chatty, excitable bunch. Ciao.

  214. Will we hear TFM during the roadblock, and if so, during the 1st 2 minutes or during final 3 (the extended cut)?

    I think they’ll wrap up the 2 minute network roadblock with a few lines of the song.

    Will it be in its entirety?

    No, just a cruel teaser. Unless… the entire 3 minute internet spot is set to TFM.

    Whether it is or not, will it be released as a single on Friday?

    No, I think it will be released a bit after the movie is released. My thinking (which is probably really way off base since I know very little about marketing strategy, but it’s fun to pretend like I know what I’m talking about)is that they chose Adam to sing the song because the current excitement over him would draw his fans to the movie to hear his song. If we hear all of it ahead of time, we might be less likely to invest in the movie.

    Will said single by accompanied by a video?

    Yes.

    Will single #2 (TBN) be released on 10/5, 10/12, or 10/19
    Will this be decided, at least in part, by the TFM release?

    I’m betting on 10/12, which would give it around a month to occupy the charts alone before the TFM release.

  215. Here are the latest numbers for Adam:

    Amazon: US #1, Japan #61, UK 437, Germany #867 Canada unranked, France email notice only, and China not on site

    Barnes and Nobel – #7 on album chart

    Best Buy – #3 on presale chart

    Play.com (UK) – #82 on presale chart

  216. Against my better judgment I gave Perez a click and the comment that was on the top was from Russell Brand. (He is the comedian that hosted the VMA’s). Russell said Adam was amazing.

    I also noticed, previously, that Adam is following Russell so I wonder if Adam has met him.

  217. Does anyone know for SURE that “Time For Miracles” will be previewed during the roadblock? I haven’t read this anywhere.

    I remember when a similar marketing stunt occurred during the 2004 remake of “Dawn of the Dead”. They previewed the first 10 minutes of the movie on the USA Network and it was just that: 10 uninterrupted minutes of the movie. I found a link for it here.

    I’m just wondering why TFM would even be played during the 2-minute clip — unless that specific 2-minute portion of the movie uses TFM as background music.

  218. Whew, MJ’s back! The green arrow hilarity is too good.

    Teri63, I’m with you except for this:

    No, I think it will be released a bit after the movie is released. My thinking (which is probably really way off base since I know very little about marketing strategy, but it’s fun to pretend like I know what I’m talking about)is that they chose Adam to sing the song because the current excitement over him would draw his fans to the movie to hear his song. If we hear all of it ahead of time, we might be less likely to invest in the movie.

    They chose Adam because he was the best singer for the song they wanted to portray. (Broken record, I know), this is a $250M budget, worldwide release; the director/producers had their choice of vocalists from around the world. Emmerich is not American and likely could not care less about American Idol, except that awareness was brought to certain entertainers. If anything, it was a risk to use Adam as opposed to using a more established act.

    All’s we have been hearing the past few months is that what looks like buzz to the AI world does not translate to any “outside-world awareness”. They weren’t throwing anyone a bone with this. An established act is going to have a much larger following than even an AI champion.

    The song is part of the movie’s promotion. Big budget movies have ONE WEEKEND to open. A major opening trickles down and can mean huge international sales. There is no logical reason to release the song after the film has opened. That only happens if a song that isn’t meant to be a “theme song” surprisingly takes off.

  219. Just got home to the #1 news! YAY Adam!! Let’s keep him @ #1, where he belongs. So excited for this, wish it was November.

  220. Chris (Aimee Mayo’s husband) from twitter:

    I am ecstatic about this song being recorded by Adam Lambert. But there is not a word for what is going on with you. Ms @AimeeMayo 8:59 PM Sep 24th from web

  221. All I know is that I wish Amazon would get their crap together. If you search for “Adam Lambert” on their home page, you still don’t get his new release until page 2, item 22. WTF?? Kris’s album is page 1, item 8 on Adam’s search. Susan Boyle’s album is page 1, item 10 on Adam’s search. But ADAM’S OWN ALBUM IS ON PG 2, ITEM 22????

    RIDICULOUS!

  222. All I know is that I wish Amazon would get their crap together. If you search for ‘Adam Lambert’  on their home page, you still don’t get his new release until page 2, item 22. WTF??

    Maybe webmasters here (rowenaine???) could answer this better than me, but I suspect it’s search results based on history, and historically, there hasn’t been a CD there to find. As time goes by, I would expect that the CD would start to move UP in the search results… if Bob/Rod can maintain his upward-thrusting momentum and keep it up until a suitable climax is reached, that is…..

  223. Um, okay, wut? (God help me I should ignore this …).

    Well, we all know about the awe-inspiring industry precedent set by the incomparable “Dawn of the Dead” and the USA network, circa 1974 … or was that the “new and improved” version in 2004? Well, as long as we’re comparing apples to nuclear reactors … erm, never mind, there is no comparison here. Except I don’t believe one person has “ensured” that TFM will be played. We’ve only hoped and speculated.

  224. Does anyone know for SURE that ‘Time For Miracles’  will be previewed during the roadblock?

    Of course not, Tony. Obviously it might not be previewed at all. But, guess what? That doesn’t negate the fact that Adam has his finger in the pie of a highly promoted, potential blockbuster. Now, does it? Be honest.

  225. Except I don’t believe one person has ‘ensured’  that TFM will be played. We’ve only hoped and speculated.

    Very true, Susan M! We’ve had very few and far between, not to mention unreliable, sources, so I think we all filled in the blanks with hope. Well, I’m still hoping, but as my grandma used to say about potential visitors, “don’t expect ’em till you see the whites of their eyes”!

  226. Anthrogeek you are soooo bad’ ¦’ ¦.you’re good’ ¦’ ¦.

    Awww, what’s a girl gotta do to get a blushing smiley around here…… ;-)

  227. Hi all,

    Chris (Aimee Mayo’s husband) from twitter:

    I am ecstatic about this song being recorded by Adam Lambert. But there is not a word for what is going on with you. Ms @AimeeMayo

    Is Chris sending a public tweet to his wife Aimee? Why is Aimee’s husband telling her that there is no word for what is going on with her? Has her irrational behavior driven him away? He is ecstatic but she is … what … beyond crazy? Will he get half of the royalty money that she gets from Adam’s CD?

  228. .Tony, Does anyone know for SURE that ‘Time For Miracles’  will be previewed during the roadblock? I haven’t read this anywhere.

    I remember when a similar marketing stunt occurred during the 2004 remake of ‘Dawn of the Dead’ . They previewed the first 10 minutes of the movie on the USA Network and it was just that: 10 uninterrupted minutes of the movie. I found a link for it here.

    I’m just wondering why TFM would even be played during the 2-minute clip ‘” unless that specific 2-minute portion of the movie uses TFM as background music.

    No, there is nothing official — and I can’t see that the endsong will be part of the 2 minute pormo — but the song credit might be. There was a report from a ONTD_AI member who has had a lot of correct inside information that it was part of the roadblock — but that doesn’t mean that it is part of the 2 minutes on air.

    There are many, many components of this 2012 promotion — the major ones are:

    The TV Roadblock: 2 minutes on US & Canada TV – estimated viewership 110 to 120 million. There is an offical report that this will be a 2 minute clip of the movie. It will also be available online and Comcast OnDemand (HD). Largest simultaneous media buy in history.

    The Roadblock pushes to:

    Additional 5 minutes of the film will be available online and Comcast OnDemand (HD).

    Several additional online and media promotions planned to support the TV.

    There are many online viral campaign elements that have been going on since November 2008 — election, fake Institute, contests, movie info, and so on.

    There is a mobil and iPhone component, and on and on.

    It is a fairly safe bet that the soundtrack will be released before the movie opens. Based on current marketing trends, I expect the single to released before the album. And the album to be released 3 to 4 weeks before opening. That means the single should be released soon.

    For Emmerich’s most similar recent movie, “Day After Tomorrow”, the soundtrack was released 5/18/04, the movie opened worldwide 5/26-28; Japan & Korea 6/4-5.

  229. NewFan
    September 30, 2009 at 2:04 am
    Oh my oh my oh my.
    Anthrogeek! You are a very naughty girl.

    Hey, greeneyedlady started it! And it seems ravengirl tried to finish it off…. heh.

  230. this is just so cool! no formal press and still adam’s untitled CD gets to #1 on pre~sale amazon.com.
    and i am on the IDGAF, about facial hair, ready for the music now team.

  231. Q3: I quite like the soundtrack-before-movie idea. It’s a very fine idea. yes! The sooner the better.

    austinmidwife:
    Yes. please. music. soon. please. Any kind of hair is fine if it comes with musical accompaniment.

    anthrogeek:
    sure. sure. blame someone else. actually…. i do believe you … really i do… many would not … but i do almost not maybe perhaps definitely not

  232. And absolutely yes!!! I couldn’t be happier for Adam that his pre-sales are #1 (or even close to being #1). Naysayers can take their skepticism and run with it. But the rest of us are just glad to see it all unfolding as it should … even without advance publicity. It’s a triumph of it’s own and it’s also a sign that world domination healthy, moderate success is just beyond the horizon. Yay Adam!!!

    I’ve just discovered a new comment feature and I am very proud.

  233. Oh, anthro. i think you finished off all that punning around with richard the arrow quite nicely. i knew there was a reason i logged on so late tonight.

  234. My best guess is that he moves around 195-235K the first week, with Kris moving maybe 125-155K.

  235. Is Chris sending a public tweet to his wife Aimee?

    NewFan: I have no idea, lol. I posted it here so that someone more savvy than I might figure it out. I know she was verrrry emotional about this and Chris tweeted her once to calm down. Maybe it was her birthday last weekend with the “glitter cupcakes” that makes her hyper?

  236. Forgive this late celebration … just got home from another 12+ hour shift … but WOW … Adam is #1!! Bravo, young man!!

  237. MJ’s tweets:
    @maura It means that Lambert has a huge online fanbase, ready to buy his music, but if Kris picks up more sales outside the bubble–he wins
    about 1 hour ago from web in reply to maura

    @maura Amazon preorder rankings don’t really mean much in the grand scheme of things. Yeah, I know that Maura….
    about 1 hour ago from web in reply to maura

    @rickey Rickey, I’m not going there. lol.
    about 1 hour ago from web in reply to rickey

    @rickey Kris Allen vs. Adam Lambert on Amazon.com LOL Rickey…you weren’t the only one blogging about it…

  238. Yes, adamaloha … I’ve been tempted to ask you because I don’t know your age … I’m 51 and yes, just a little bit embarrassed about my fantard with Adam. My “kids” (28, 25, 17 and 15) roll their eyes at me all the time and claim they’re going to report me to CPS for child neglect!! 1st of all, I tell them PLEASE call and yes, I’m unfit … PLEASE let someone take them!! ha!

    Okay, now you know mj is going to be pissed now … back on topic, so VERY proud of Adam!! (but, if you’re not embarrassed about this 51 year old … tell me about you, before mj comes around!) quick!

  239. honowoowoo
    September 30, 2009 at 5:37 am
    Yes, adamaloha ‘ ¦ I’ve been tempted to ask you because I don’t know your age ‘ ¦ I’m 51 and yes, just a little bit embarrassed about my fantard with Adam. My ‘kids’  (28, 25, 17 and 15) roll their eyes at me all the time and claim they’re going to report me to CPS for child neglect!! 1st of all, I tell them PLEASE call and yes, I’m unfit ‘ ¦ PLEASE let someone take them!! ha!

    Well, a woman’s got to keep a few things to herself (haha)… let’s just say I have a teenage son and I’m pretty sure he’s
    wondering if the real me has been kidnapped! :)

    It’s nice to have a little local-style company here, sistah! (shaka)
    Have you been on the Planet Fierce board?
    Planet Fierce
    It’s another place to talk about Adam– and whatevahs. :)

    the star entertainment article

    Heres another brief mention of Adam… nothing new or startling, but since it’s sooo slow….

  240. Another “song” tweet that popped up in my twitter:
    From J_SKINS
    p.s. I love all the gossip about “Obsession” right now. haha I wish I could answer all your questions, but you will just have to be patient.about 4 hours ago from web

  241. Chestnut: Hero of Central Park

    Okay, I just found this on AO…. an Adam Lambert was a Set Dresser on this 2006 movie… scroll down the credits and look under the Art heading.

    Another AI connection– Kara is listed in the music section.

    Don’t know if it’s Adam. Anybody?

  242. honowoowoo
    September 30, 2009 at 6:09 am
    Yep, it’s Adam!

    Really!!?? He worked as a set dresser on a film? That’s interesting. How do you know?

  243. When you are a new artist ,its all about presales!

    Amazon sales may not be the final arbiter as to who is the most commercially successful recording artist ; but Adam’s number one rank in the Best Selling music category is a feat in itself –
    -the album is not yet finished, and no sampler has been released to the public.
    -the album is coming from an artist who has never sold a single album before, thus pre sales is literally a leap of faith , and
    -the album is from the one who did not even win the singing competition that was supposedly decided by millions of Americans voting for their choice.

    These make great stories that media will love to retell in waves. And which I earnestly hope will fuel further sales.

  244. mama2dasha
    September 30, 2009 at 6:13 am
    I saw that too..not sure what a set dresser does. If you click on his name in the credits, Adam’s bio comes up.

    Yup. You’re right. Here’s the bio:

    Actor and singer Adam Lambert began his career on the stage, appearing in the Los Angeles production of the musical Wicked and alongside Val Kilmer in The Ten Commandments before auditioning for the eighth season of American Idol, eventually making it through to the top 13. ~ Cammila Albertson, All Movie Guide See Full Adam Lambert Biography

  245. So, I am hoping that this was just something temporary or a weird Amazon gremlin, but I just logged on to join the party and pre-order my Adam CD and it told me “the quantity that can be bought at this time is now limited- current limit = 0 ”
    what??? How can they have run out if they haven’t printed any yet? And what will this mean for the heroic green arrow? Could someone else please try and tell me if I’m just losing it (there is a possibility I will acknowledge).

  246. Animated
    September 30, 2009 at 6:12 am
    When you are a new artist ,its all about presales!

    Amazon sales may not be the final arbiter as to who is the most commercially successful recording artist ; but Adam’s number one rank in the Best Selling music category is a feat in itself ‘“
    -the album is not yet finished, and no sampler has been released to the public.
    -the album is coming from an artist who has never sold a single album before, thus pre sales is literally a leap of faith , and
    -the album is from the one who did not even win the singing competition that was supposedly decided by millions of Americans voting for their choice.

    These make great stories that media will love to retell in waves. And which I earnestly hope will fuel further sales.

    Yes. I think this is PR GOLD.

  247. Some thoughts I have on the Adam Storm.

    Do you know that after a drought, the best kind of rain to get is a slow steady drizzle. Then it can soak into the ground. A downpour is not as beneficial, as much of it runs off the dry ground and flows away.

    This is our information drought. To relieve it, want the kind of news that people can absorb and savor and soak up, not the kind that get’s lost down the rain gutter!

  248. lizziegs: but I just logged on to join the party and pre-order my Adam CD and it told me ‘the quantity that can be bought at this time is now limited- current limit = 0 ‘ 

    I just tried it.. it worked okay for me. Try again. Maybe just a glitch.

  249. thanks for checking adamaloha, and glad to see its just me. But it is ME as i just tried again and got the same message.
    taking it a bit personally right now. did I not vote enough? It was my 20th anniversary the night of the finale…honest!!

  250. MJ’s tweets:
    @maura It means that Lambert has a huge online fanbase, ready to buy his music, but if Kris picks up more sales outside the bubble’“he wins
    about 1 hour ago from web in reply to maura

    @maura Amazon preorder rankings don’t really mean much in the grand scheme of things. Yeah, I know that Maura’ ¦.
    about 1 hour ago from web in reply to maura

    @rickey Rickey, I’m not going there. lol.
    about 1 hour ago from web in reply to rickey

    @rickey Kris Allen vs. Adam Lambert on Amazon.com LOL Rickey’ ¦you weren’t the only one blogging about it’ ¦

    IS that MJ from here? interesting……

    Adam being #1 on Amazon is very cool but in reality Amazon accounts for a small fraction of sales overall. I’m interested to see what happens when his album becomes available for pre-order on itunes.

  251. If Adam were water he’d be the tsunami we see on 2012 poster!!

    Adam bomb! It’s a beautiful thing. Luckily his ballads will sooth us all with that life giving drizzle however I love getting my sox blown off when bb rox! lol

  252. So to recap last night:

    Still #1
    Big Green Arrow Named Bob
    Team Shave Now, Team Facial Hair or Team IDGAFJustleakadamnsongnow
    Team Oprah or Team NoOprah ( James Frey fan here)

    And we still aren’t sure if the song will be in the roadblock. Does that about cover it?

  253. and from MJs via TWoP:
    “realvivi
    September 27, 2009 at 11:22 am
    QUOTE(elephant1212 @ Sep 27th 2009, 8:16 AM)
    saw this a few hours ago……..

    ‘hey all! i saw that ‘adam storm’  that i was talking about ending up trending! that is so funny ‘ ¦’ ¦neways, i have been texting my uncle every day basically about adam ( he thinks im crazy for it lol) and he said to expect ‘time for miracles’  in the 2012 roadblock!!! yay! ‘ 

    O.M.G!!!!!!!!!”

    elephant1212 is the “reliable” source that has proven reliable before

  254. Wired for sound- I’m with you. ITunes is where it is going to matter. No one really buys physical CD’s anymore. The ones that do, as someone pointed out yesterday, get them at Walmart.

    And I gotta say, I am pretty damn impressed with how Kris’ song is going. It had the initial jump from the AI’ers, then started dropping, but as it is picking up airplay, people are buying it because they like it. I hope that for Adam too. I cannot wait to see how his first single does on ITunes- that’s when I am going to be jumping up and down.

    So I guess that means I am Team ITunes :)

    lulumarie- If elephant turns out to be wrong, there will be a hell of a lot of people hunting her down, lol. Everybody is basing the rumor about 2012 on that ONE post.

  255. Studio57
    September 30, 2009 at 6:32 am
    So to recap last night:

    Still #1
    Big Green Arrow Named Bob
    Team Shave Now, Team Facial Hair or Team IDGAFJustleakadamnsongnow
    Team Oprah or Team NoOprah ( James Frey fan here)

    And we still aren’t sure if the song will be in the roadblock. Does that about cover it

    All good, Studio57.

    Except for the latest from elephant 1212 that lulumarie jus posted…

    September 27, 2009 at 11:22 am
    QUOTE(elephant1212 @ Sep 27th 2009, 8:16 AM)
    saw this a few hours ago’ ¦’ ¦..

    ‘hey all! i saw that ‘adam storm’  that i was talking about ending up trending! that is so funny ‘ ¦’ ¦neways, i have been texting my uncle every day basically about adam ( he thinks im crazy for it lol) and he said to expect ‘time for miracles’  in the 2012 roadblock!!! yay! ‘ 

    elephant1212 is the ‘reliable’  source that has proven reliable before

    honowoowoo– any idea when this roadblock is supposed to air our time?
    I may have to set my DVR for this. Just in case.

  256. hollygo72 Sep 27th 2009, 12:05 PM Post #4

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    Bringing this over from MJs

    She makes a good point. Adam’s song might be a part of the ONLINE portion of the roadblock.

    QUOTE
    Q3
    September 27, 2009 at 12:52 pm

    If the person leaking this info is correct, then at least a snippet of the Time for Miracles track will be shown during the preview. Although, I believe during the commercial people will be directed online for more info ‘” it’s possible that Time for Miracles will only be used for the online portion. OR, as horrible as it is to contemplate, the info is incorrect and we won’t hear it at all.

    Here is an interactive map of the 2012 Roadblock. The airtimes are based on Time Zones in 2 waves for the US. Eastern, Central and Mountain at 10:45PM to 11:00PM Eastern Time; Pacific, Hawai and Alaska at 10:45PM to 11:00PM Pacific Time.

    The are two main elements to the roadblock ‘” 2 minutes of the film footage will be aired close to simultaneously on Broadcast TV, then there will be an additional 5 minutes of footage available online and on Comcast On Demand in HD.

    Here is a cool interactive map of the media roadblock:
    http://www.comcast.com/2012/

    Can’t wait!!!!

  257. Morning guys,

    Adam is still #1 and Bob is still standing still
    I am in the IDGAFJustleakadamnsongnow team
    I am enjoying every bit of this first place. Other artists are not in first place (meaning they are selling much less); so, it counts for me. Happy moments are here and now and should be enjoyed. I never cross a bridge before I get to it.

    Btw, I cannot go to Walmart to buy a CD since I am not in US (remember, there is a world beyond the US boundaries) ;-)

    I am waiting to download from iTunes.

    I have just received the notifications sent by Amazon.com that Adam ´s CD was available for pre-order. He he, 3 days after I ordered my copies.

  258. Wired for sound- I’m with you. ITunes is where it is going to matter. No one really buys physical CD’s anymore. The ones that do, as someone pointed out yesterday, get them at Walmart

    .

    Actually digital sales still only account for about 30% of total sales. If you look at the sales charts for last week for example Daughtry sold something like 15K and of those 2K were digital.

    Walmart is the biggest retailer for music though but I think that’s mainly due to convenience and pricing. They’ve been able to push other music retailers out of business by offering better deals. My only problem with Walmart is that they edit their CDs for “offensive” content.

  259. I have just received the notifications sent by Amazon.com that Adam ´s CD was available for pre-order. He he, 3 days after I ordered my copie

    Me, too. They’re a little pathetic.

  260. “Or should I say, congratulations to the fans’“your pre-orders got him there.”
    Don’t know how to properly quote, BUT I have to de-lurk to comment on the snark. So using this logic, Kris doesn’t have enough of a motivated fan base to get him to #1. Of course, the fans get Adam to this position. Isn’t this is what is all about–sales!!! Doesn’t matter if we haven’t heard anything yet. And yes, MJ, we understand your bias and that you are not amused but you still sell the story. My question to you: Where are all the Kris AT&T people when he needs them? I suppose this will get me banned/scrubbed–don’t care. BTW, MJ your tweets expose your bias — professional journalist my ass.

  261. So….

    wiredforsoundMy only problem with Walmart is that they edit their CDs for ‘offensive’  content.

    how offensive does the content have to be in order for WalMart to “scrub it” clean?

  262. And yes, MJ, we understand your bias and that you are not amused but you still sell the story

    I am not sure I understand this. MJ has been an Adam fan from the beginning. She has said so, and I also remember her conversations with Rickey and Jim after each of the IA shows, which I followed on Rickey ´s site not to wait for the TV show (it was aired on Saturdays in my country). However, as a true journalist she has to play the devil ´s advocate not to be taken as a fantard. MHO.

  263. And I’d like to reiterate my thanks to MJ– for reporting a rather complicated story in a clear and absolutely professional way. No wonder all those other news outlets picked up her story and ran quotes from it!

    Good job, MJ, and keep up the excellent, UNBIASED journalism!

  264. wiredforsoundMy only problem with Walmart is that they edit their CDs for ‘offensive’  content.

    seriously? In all states or just Utah? I know Utah does this for movies and things.

  265. Mj is open-minded and gives reliable news about Kris on Adam blogs-always a debate. I’ll say it here and now. If need be than I will gladly post here no more either. We Adam fans like Kris (Especially because Adam and Kris are good friends) I’m glad for Kris when good things happen to him. I certainly don’t start raining on his parade by being skeptical and doubtful of his accomplishments. Certainly not on a Kris blog. So please Mj we would appreciate that you redirect your love for Kris to the Kris blog. I never cared or minded before, but Let Adam and his fans have their moment for God’s sake! That goes for all the other Adam deminishers…Dude..it’s getting old…lets move on. Congratulations to Adam for having a whole lotta fans-without fans you are nobody in this business. Yea!!

  266. never seen this before Adam Lambert “Turning On” The Citizen Vein
    Source:
    http://www.youtube.com
    Adam Lambert with his band The Citizen Vein at The Pitcher House in Hermosa Beach, CA. Other

  267. Anybody see this?? Was posted on the Amazon discussion page:

    Adam has been ranked 2nd on the 100 Most Technically Skilled Rock Vocalists, by the DDD Music Forum.

    1. Jackie Wilson
    2. Adam Lambert
    3. Freddie Mercury (Queen, Solo)
    4. Geoff Tate (Queensryche)
    5. Steve Perry (Journey, Solo)

    This discussion forum includes a long thread, with point by point comparison of vocal skills of Jackie, Adam, and Freddie on page 116. For the full list, click the following link:
    http://forums.nutsie.com/viewtopic.php?t=18672

  268. adamaloha: And I’d like to reiterate my thanks to MJ’“ for reporting a rather complicated story in a clear and absolutely professional way. No wonder all those other news outlets picked up her story and ran quotes from it!

    Good job, MJ, and keep up the excellent, UNBIASED journalism!

    I agree with this and she got the excitement going again. Thanks MJ.

  269. adamaloha – my age is going to show again … what the heck is a roadblock … I looked it up in my newfound urban dictionary for blog speak and it defines roadblock as “fat girl and her boyfriend walking on the side of the road” … okay, get off the floor, wipe your tears … stop laughing, okay stop laughing … explain it slowly to me and then maybe I’ll be able to find out what time to set our dvr?? Are you still laughing?

  270. honowoowoo
    September 30, 2009 at 7:36 am
    adamaloha ‘“ my age is going to show again ‘ ¦ what the heck is a roadblock ‘ ¦ I looked it up in my newfound urban dictionary for blog speak and it defines roadblock as ‘fat girl and her boyfriend walking on the side of the road’  ‘ ¦ okay, get off the floor, wipe your tears ‘ ¦ stop laughing, okay stop laughing ‘ ¦ explain it slowly to me and then maybe I’ll be able to find out what time to set our dvr?? Are you still laughing?

    oh… gawd… still laughing… bed is shaking, i’ll wake husband up…

    Roadblock in this case is a short, promotional media blitz for the movie 2012 that’ll cover almost all TV networks simultaneously at a certain time. Thanks to lulumarie’s post I was able to find our time— it’ll be on during the mentalist.. or private practice.. or jay leno.. set your dvr for any of those programs.

    still laughing…..

  271. adamaloha – I see your still laughing … gonna go back and watch another episode of my kdrama; hopefully you’ll be off the floor by then. mj this is topic related btw; we’re trying to figure what time to set our dvr honolulu time for Adam’s 2012 “roadblock” … as soon as she defines it s l o w l y for me.

  272. wired for sound- that was really interesting. Are you sure that’s across the board? Because I would think that pop music, like say Miley and Taylor Swift, would be a higher percentage of Itunes.

    If Itunes accounts for 30% and Amazon is 5-10% ( I think MJ pointed that out in one of her tweets yesterday) Sixty percent is still physical CD’s bought in the store? That seems odd to me. Not doubting you, just find this part of it really interesting and want to get a better grasp on it.

  273. Ever flip through the channels during a commercial break only to find the same commercial on another network? It may seem like a coincidence, but it’s actually called roadblock advertising. And I hope you’re looking forward to Roland Emmerich’s upcoming disaster-porn 2012, because Sony is throwing millions of dollars at all of the major networks in an attempt to be damn sure you see 2 minutes of the film on October 1st.

    According to Variety, Sony’s diabolical stunt plan is to have “the footage in front of 90% of all households watching ad-supported TV, or nearly 110 million viewers. When combined with online and mobile streams, that could increase to more than 140 million”.

    If that’s not enough of an overdose on the Mayan-predicted-apocalypse loving film before it even opens this November 13th, Variety further explains that Comcast is actually going to be running a hype campaign announcing the roadblock campaign: “Comcast will launch a multi-million dollar promotional campaign on its cable networks and online to hype the roadblock, which will air on ABC, NBC and CBS, 89 cable networks, local stations in the top 70 markets, and Spanish-language networks throughout the U.S. between 10:50 p.m. and 11:00 p.m. on the

    This is new to me as well. lol honowoowoo

  274. Good Morning Everyone:

    All is well with the world(you can tell what I think is important-cowers in shame)

    Adam still #1 on Amazon, he still has Bobg there and Sebree photo!!!

    Yippee

    Now going back to get my son ready for school & I for work!

  275. Thanks lulumarie.

    I am barely coherent cause I’m still laughing…

  276. oops

    on the First of October, this Thursday. I hope we here Time for Miracles so happy for bb.

  277. Roland Emmerich’s upcoming disaster-porn

    Lulu- it’s PORN???? LMFAO!

    honowoowoo- you gotta love the urban dictionary!

    loveredshoes- You have to understand that MJ has seen this all before. It’s not every year, but almost every year someone thinks their idol is the next big thing, is going to change music as we know it, blah, blah, blah. Someone has to keep the newbies grounded. And I know it is great that Adam is number one but you have to admit it, he got there only by his rabid fan base, which includes me, BTW.

    Once the songs come out and after the initial AI inspired buying frenzy, if he continues to sell and sell well- then you can say it’s not because of the fans, but because of Adam’s talent, or great material, or because he is the next big thing. Saying it now is just premature, that’s all.

    adamaloha- love that picture too. I think it’s my favorite. But for some reason the background on my computer has been the one with the big ass hat with the feather sticking out of it and he is sitting in the royal chair. I don’t know… he looks like one of those big fluffy cats who is pissed off that their owner dressed him up in a silly costume. It amuses the hell out of me.

  278. Sunn!

    Yes, and the elephant1212 girl says her uncle says Adam’s song WILL be part of the upcoming promo for 2012..
    Can we believe her? We’d sure like to…

  279. Delurking for a minute to say “thanks” to honowoowoo. I am still laughing and have to say that I am glad you asked the question. I didn’t know either, but felt stupid asking. My age is showing too. So thanks…

  280. Roland Emmerich’s upcoming disaster-porn

    Lulu- it’s PORN???? LMFAO!

    LOL, Adam certainly has the sex appeal lol never mind. *Blushing* lol

  281. adamaloha
    September 30, 2009 at 8:03 am
    Sunn!

    Yes, and the elephant1212 girl says her uncle says Adam’s song WILL be part of the upcoming promo for 2012..
    Can we believe her? We’d sure like to’ ¦

    Yayyy! Is this new? or is it taken from the post she made a few days ago?

  282. adamaloha: And I’d like to reiterate my thanks to MJ’“ for reporting a rather complicated story in a clear and absolutely professional way. No wonder all those other news outlets picked up her story and ran quotes from it!

    Good job, MJ, and keep up the excellent, UNBIASED journalism!

    I second, third or fourth?? this!

  283. Sunn: Yayyy! Is this new? or is it taken from the post she made a few days ago?

    Darn. It is from a few days ago– I did not look at the date when I read the post.

    I’m really losing track of who said what, when.

  284. okay no more urbandictionary.com for me! I’m trying to stay current on the blog speak … but now there’s media speak! I’m going back into hiding with dab1234 … I’m almost certain that I can hear adamaloha from here? Are you on the east side? Got my dvr scheduled (thanks to lulumarie and my fellow islander, adamaloha!)

    Oahu out!

  285. honowoowoo and dab- don’t delurk- I didn’t know what it was in the beginning either- someone will always be glad to explain it to you!

  286. Well I am no AI devoted fan, believe me. To me it was an actual “Cheesy” show. I was flipping the channels on night and there he was. This magnificent creature with the voice of a heavenly body (intentional choice of words..lol) I fell in love. Just like I did with Elvis(a little before my time but greatness knows no time or distance) and Mj (The famous one that is,..lol) Adam Lambert is not just another drop in the bucket ladies or gentlemen…I agree that only time will tell (and it is already obviously) It’s been telling for quite a while. But, I get that some folks could get over-exposure to American Idol and not see what the rest of us see-by “The rest of us” I mean Japan. Uk Germany Phillipines and South America anf France among others. It was bound to happen-you play with fire and you’re bound to get burnt. Adam is on fire…you’re right his rocket is not airborn yet but you very well damn better believe it’s on fire and it’s blast off coming this fall!!!

  287. good morning adamaloha!! Thank goodness you are safe- god bless our friends & citizens in American Samoa!!

  288. 4evrmomof4
    September 30, 2009 at 8:25 am
    good morning adamaloha!! Thank goodness you are safe- god bless our friends & citizens in American Samoa!!

    Thank you. It was no big deal here on Oahu, but they really got hit hard in Samoa. So many dead!

  289. Group: Members

    Posts: 5

    and from MJs via TWoP:
    “realvivi
    September 27, 2009 at 11:22 am
    QUOTE(elephant1212 @ Sep 27th 2009, 8:16 AM)

    ‘hey all! i saw that ‘adam storm’  that i was talking about ending up trending! that is so funny ‘ ¦’ ¦neways, i have been texting my uncle every day basically about adam ( he thinks im crazy for it lol) and he said to expect ‘time for miracles’  in the 2012 roadblock!!! yay! ‘ 

    O.M.G!!!!!!!!!”
    Group: Members

    Posts: 5

  290. As, always, I have my gold watch out for adamaloha… (sry)

    But, to get back to Tony’s question from the prior page about why TFM would be in the roadblock, I have just a couple of points:

    1) I can’t imagine that they are just showing the first two (or five) minutes of the film. They are going to want to show lots and lots of the special effects (which surely come later).

    2) *If* TFM is in the roadblock and *if* — as the title suggests — it’s a song focusing on hopefulness in the face of disaster, then I can very easily imagine it being used during a portion. Just imagine it as an extended trailer….

    [dramtic score]
    [deep voice guy]
    IN A WORLD where ancient Mayan prophecies become too real…
    ONE MAN tries to warn humanity…
    BUT HE IS… to late.

    [dramatic score crescendo]
    [show 60 seconds of earthquakes, tidal waves, fires, White House being destoryed by USS John F. Kennedy, etc, etc]

    [deep voice guy, speaking more softly]
    IN THE FACE of devastation
    NOW ONE MAN must try to save his family
    AND RENEW THE PROMISE of civilization

    [cue Time for Miracles]
    [show lots of hugging and crying and small children]

    [credits]
    A Roland Emmerich Film
    Starring John Cusak, etc
    Featuring Time for Miracles performed by Adam Lambert

    [fade to black]
    [http://www.2012movie.com]

  291. Good morning all.

    I see Adam is still at #1 on Amazon and they ‘finally’ put a different photo up. Love that photo by the way!

    So…2012 ‘tease’ is on tomorrow and isn’t FF on ,also? Wonder if there will be another sighting or mention of the ‘mystery man’? Someone on a different website had a theory that Adam was the’mystery man’ because she remembered an interview Adam gave during the Tour where he mentioned FF was using his Mad World and there might be a surprise but that was all he was saying. Then, ofcourse, I started thinking I kind of remembered something like that but….I actully have no idea!

  292. Yes, and the elephant1212 girl says her uncle says Adam’s song WILL be part of the upcoming promo for 2012..
    Can we believe her? We’d sure like to’ ¦

    Personally, I think she’s for real … but we’ll see. It will be a small test of her reliability.

    I’m hoping the 3-day tardy Amazon notices and the Perez mention will help keep Adam #1 for a bit.

    You have to understand that MJ has seen this all before. It’s not every year, but almost every year someone thinks their idol is the next big thing, is going to change music as we know it, blah, blah, blah. Someone has to keep the newbies grounded.

    This is so true. I think mj wants good things for all these guys (including Adam) but mostly she’s just a fan of the show.

  293. queue Conspiracy theory music. That makes no sense. Why would Amazon limit its own sales? Are they concerned about people jacking with the top seller listing?

    I would say that they would do that only if the attempts to jack the listing have already been happening.

    And since this is an Idol fanbase here, and, by accounts, perhaps the most rabid yet (or at least in the top two or three), then, yeah, it’s probably been happening.

    When you see the kinds of lies people are willing to perpetrate just to manipulate fans, jerk people’s chains, etc., then it seems pretty likely that there are people fraudulently ordering 2,000 copies…

  294. Studio57: adamaloha- love that picture too. I think it’s my favorite. But for some reason the background on my computer has been the one with the big ass hat with the feather sticking out of it and he is sitting in the royal chair. I don’t know’ ¦ he looks like one of those big fluffy cats who is pissed off that their owner dressed him up in a silly costume. It amuses the hell out of me.

    You are sick. Funny, but sick… :lol:

  295. Perez Hilton chimed in:

    Lambert At The Top Of The Charts, Almost

    Coming in second place on American Idol isn’t so bad after all!

    A.I. season 8 runner-up Adam Lambert’s first album isn’t due until November 24th, but it’s already made its way to the number 2 spot on the Amazon.com sales list as of yesterday.

    He’s second on the list only to Barbara Streisand, who tops the chart with her new jazz album.

    And the surprising part about Lambert’s album is that it managed to jump to the top of the list on its own.

    Lambert’s record label, RCA, hadn’t announced the album could be pre-oreded. But that didn’t stop the Lambert fans from spreading the news.

    Have U already pre-ordered your album?

    Update: He’s done it! Glamber is #1 now!!!

  296. queue Conspiracy theory music. That makes no sense. Why would Amazon limit its own sales? Are they concerned about people jacking with the top seller listing?

    Q3 checked it out, look up thread, it seems all the top 10 Bestsellers are limited to 3 item orders.

  297. halfie
    September 30, 2009 at 8:32 am
    As, always, I have my gold watch out for adamaloha’ ¦ (sry)

    Uh oh, halfie’s here. (yawn)

    ETA: Your Roadbock theory, while giggle-worthy, also has merit.

  298. I see Adam is still at #1 on Amazon and they ‘finally’ put a different photo up. Love that photo by the way!

    Yes! Just noticed they also changed the picture! Much better (didn’t like the dark gloomy eyes in the other one, though I liked the fog). Still, my fav pic from that photo shoot would be the one they used for the recent ew article. I wish that was used more:

    http://music-mix.ew.com/2009/09/29/adam-lambert-album-presale/

  299. Adam’s cd is available in Finland now!

    “http://www.megastorefinland.fi/template/next,Product.vm?itemid=2154629&source=1900

    I’m so ashamed… I should’ve known about this… ;) ”

    ETA: Why can’t you add blockquotes in Edit?! Oh well…

  300. Adamaloha;

    Not sure, anyone read Finnish? I know I don’t, though wish I did right now– wow have I ever become shallow!

  301. off to work– will check in when I arrive there(after my long a** commute!)

  302. Before I leave… here’s the latest from lambosessed… her vids are great and Newark was a very good Bowie.
    She uses the best shots and the best audio from several videographers. The closeups during the segue from Fame to Let’s dance are particularly sexy… mmm.

    Bowie from lambosessed Newark 1

    Good night, all.

    See, Halfie? You arrive, I fall asleep.

  303. Is there a rating on the Finland site?

    I could only find a list of the top selling albums on the presale list, and no, TBD is not there.
    http://www.megastorefinland.fi/?catid=AUDI&show=prebook

    Actually, I don’t think that many people in Finland order cds before they are released. And Adam is not a familiar name in Finland. At least not yet ;)

  304. anthrogeek
    September 30, 2009 at 1:47 am
    All I know is that I wish Amazon would get their crap together. If you search for ‘Adam Lambert’  on their home page, you still don’t get his new release until page 2, item 22. WTF??

    Maybe webmasters here (rowenaine???) could answer this better than me, but I suspect it’s search results based on history, and historically, there hasn’t been a CD there to find. As time goes by, I would expect that the CD would start to move UP in the search results’ ¦ if Bob/Rod can maintain his upward-thrusting momentum and keep it up until a suitable climax is reached, that is’ ¦..

    I’m so excited to see Adam still at #1 this morning!

    anthrogeek, I’ve been puzzling over this myself. Amazon, like Google and other major sites, use highly guarded algorhythms for their search processes. Although one would think simply typing in the appropriate keywords (like ‘adam lambert’ for goodness sake!) would return the proper results, there are likely many factors that prevent this: the “spider” (website crawler that seeks out keywords) may not have found the keywords yet; the search item itself is not popular enough (i.e. sales rank in comparison to other items – not necessarily in music); and the fact that Adam’s album doesn’t have a title is probably throwing the search off. In most cases it’s probably seeking out the actual cd name of “Adam Lambert” which is why that Sin Synthetic single keeps coming up.

    I wish I had a definitive answer for you. To me, the biggest problem is that making the item show up at the top of the search is not something that can be forced manually — otherwise Amazon, I’m sure, would have fixed it already. They want the sales, believe me! It’s just something we’ll have to keep an eye on until their “spider” catches up to the relative popularity of the item (vs. the gazillion of products Amazon sells).

    And we’ve named the green arrow Bob? I’ve gotta read this thread!

  305. Here are the top 8 for Finland

    Elokuvat Pelit Muut CD – Yleiskatsaus (228345 tuotetta)Nà ¤ytà ¤ vain tuotteet jotka alkavat kirjaimella
    0-9ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZÅÄÖNà ¤ytà ¤ kaikkiVisa:YleiskatsausKaikki tuotteetUutuudetTulossa pianToplistaKampanjat.UutuudetNà ¤ytà ¤ kaikki
    OstaNew Model Army – Today Is A Good Day (CD)
    â‚ ¬14.89
    OstaEmilia – My World (CD)
    â‚ ¬14.89
    OstaMika – Boy Who Knew Too Much Deluxe (CD)
    â‚ ¬18.49
    OstaHouse Of Lords – Cartesian Dreams (CD)
    â‚ ¬14.89 .ToplistaNà ¤ytà ¤ kaikki
    OstaBeatles – Beatles (stereo) 14cd + DVD (CD)
    â‚ ¬217.49
    OstaMadonna – Celebration (2cd) (CD)
    â‚ ¬19.49
    OstaWinnerbà ¤ck Lars – Tà ¤nk Om Jag Ã…ngrar Mig Och Sen (CD)
    â‚ ¬14.89

  306. ‘Or should I say, congratulations to the fans’“your pre-orders got him there.’ 
    So using this logic, Kris doesn’t have enough of a motivated fan base to get him to #1. Of course, the fans get Adam to this position. Isn’t this is what is all about’“sales!!!

    I can see the confusing logic here. Why didn’t Kris’s fans get him to #1 or even #10 in album or single sales. If his pre-orders had gone to #1 or #10, would there have been a “your fans got you here” disclaimer?
    I would think the fact that “fans” pre-ordered Adam’s cd would be understood. If Adam’s fans got him to #1, does that mean that there are less Kris fans or do they not buy cds?
    (Just to be clear-I’m not knocking Kris. I hope his single continues to move up and all is going well with his album.)

  307. Kris def doesn’t have the motivated fanbase Adam does. Just look at the downloads for last week. He’ll need to rely on the single being a hit to have a good first week in album sales also.

  308. If you search for ‘Adam Lambert’  on their home page, you still don’t get his new release until page 2, item 22. WTF??

    I don’t get that either, you get Kris and last year contestants before Adam.

  309. I can see the confusing logic here. Why didn’t Kris’s fans get him to #1 or even #10 in album or single sales. If his pre-orders had gone to #1 or #10, would there have been a ‘your fans got you here’  disclaimer?
    I would think the fact that ‘fans’  pre-ordered Adam’s cd would be understood. If Adam’s fans got him to #1, does that mean that there are less Kris fans or do they not buy cds?

    I’m sure I’ll get flamed for “pulling a Rickey”, but the other factor could be that Kris’ album is available through iTunes, so that his fans have a significant alternative place from which to buy.

  310. Yes!!!!!!! Adam is at the #1 spot. Also, Amazon pre-order worldwide is indeed a fact. I’m not sure on the numbers for Germany, UK, Finland, but the last time I read the numbers for Japan, he was at #24, and this was on Monday, and I wouldn’t be surprised if his number is even lower (today). ;-)

  311. So’ ¦2012 ‘tease’ is on tomorrow and isn’t FF on ,also?

    Fast Forward is an 8 o’clock show, and the roadblock is for the end of prime time, 10:45-11:00 EDT.

    But, yes, been wondering how they’re going to make an end-of-the-world trailer that looks more cliff-hanging and feels more intriguing than the other Adam Lambert show.

    And halfie‘s demo is so hilariously possible. If they could somehow use the Mayan stuff intercut with actual world events that give a kind of “It could really happen” feel, that would be more intriguing.

    Sony and Comcast have got some deal going about this. With the 5 mins online at Comcast. The two companies have been working out on-demand possibilities — both hardware and licensing — for years. Including a horror movie network on Comcast. Sony opened a retail store with them in Comcast’s Philly headquarters this year. So maybe there is a Comcast wanted to try something aspect to why this roadblock is so early.

  312. I’m sure I’ll get flamed for ‘pulling a Rickey’ , but the other factor could be that Kris’ album is available through iTunes, so that his fans have a significant alternative place from which to buy.

    True and the itune pass should be factored in. But in regards to the fans getting Adam to #1 that’s awesome that we were able to to that. When Adam’s single hit the radio the non fans who are not overly invested like us /and those who are not aware of him yet will keep him at #1.

    I kind of expected Kris’ single to do better on itunes than it has so far. I would have loved to see him in the top 10 on the general chart.

  313. Fast Forward is an 8 o’clock show, and the roadblock is for the end of prime time, 10:45-11:00 EST.

    I won’t be home – going to miss it all …bummer!

  314. If they could somehow use the Mayan stuff intercut with actual world events that give a kind of ‘It could really happen’  feel, that would be more intriguing.

    I’d actually argue the opposite. I’ll bet there was much panic around the halls of Sony yesterday when the news of the tsunami broke. Had it ended up affecting mutliple nations and become a HUGE story like the Boxing Day tsunami, they likely would have had to pull their roadblock for fear of the backlash.

    Cold as it is to say (since dozens or hundreds may have died in Samoa), I think the damage was “contained” enough that they can probably proceed.

  315. fans are fans-I’ve had enough of the cheap shots….no because if Adam this…No because technically if you consider that-it’s sickening.

    Adam hit #1 on amazon sales for preorders to a cd that comes out unprecedentedly on NOV 24th! This has to be some kind of record folks.

    ttyl, chau chat choon. lol CONGRATULATIONS TO ADAM AND ALSO TO HIS FANS FOR A WONDERFUL CD…btw I know what I’m buying everybody for Christmas Buuuuaawwwhhhhaaaa!!! LOL What a wonderful day enjoy it guys ttyl

  316. sure I’ll get flamed for ‘pulling a Rickey’ , but the other factor could be that Kris’ album is available through iTunes, so that his fans have a significant alternative place from which to buy.

    That certainly has a lot to do with it, but hasn’t Kris’ presale on Amazon been there longer than Adams? And it only went up that chart after Adams. I thought that was weird.

    Kris’ single is steadily moving up the Itunes chart on it’s own merit ( it really is a good song and perfect fit for Kris), but seeing the three day sales figure of 15,000, you gotta wonder where all his fans that voted for him in the finale went. It just personally really confirms my belief that people voted against Adam, not for Kris.

  317. fans are fans-I’ve had enough of the cheap shots’ ¦.no because if Adam this’ ¦No because technically if you consider that-it’s sickening.

    I, for one, won’t hold my opinions just because they might be unpopular. And I don’t hate Adam, in fact, I think he’s dreamy.

    Adam hit #1 on amazon sales for preorders to a cd that comes out unprecedentedly on NOV 24th! This has to be some kind of record folks. Haters to the left

    .
    It’s actually not unprecedented that he hit #1 on Amazon so long before his album came out. Other Idols have done the same.

    What *may* be unprecedented is that it happened at a time when their wasn’t a lot of other publicity pushing it.

    What is undeniable is that it is nice for Adam that he hit #1. And it’s giving his fans something to smile about.

  318. I’m sure I’ll get flamed for ‘pulling a Rickey’ , but the other factor could be that Kris’ album is available through iTunes, so that his fans have a significant alternative place from which to buy.

    Doesn’t the fact that Adam’s CD is avail on Best Buy (#1 there also) and B&N negate this theory?

  319. halfie

    I’m sure I’ll get flamed for ‘pulling a Rickey’ , but the other factor could be that Kris’ album is available through iTunes, so that his fans have a significant alternative place from which to buy.

    Physical CD’s and Download markets serve completely different demographics in all things except for fans. Most, I wont say all, hardcore fans – and especially those of Idol – will buy both digital and hard copy. So, I’m not quite buying that argument.

    I will grant though, that the Amazon chart rise only indicates that Adam has a dedicated internet fan base both in the US and internationally.

  320. What *may* be unprecedented is that it happened at a time when their wasn’t a lot of other publicity pushing it.

    There was NO publicity whatsoever.

  321. That certainly has a lot to do with it, but hasn’t Kris’ presale on Amazon been there longer than Adams? And it only went up that chart after Adams. I thought that was weird.

    I’m with you, Studio 57, but I think that further supports the point. It would go something like this:

    1) iTunes has far more market share than Amazon
    2) Kris’ album was available through both outlets
    3) Given market share, the majority of Kris’ purchases were driven through iTunes initially.
    4) Adam’s album releases to Amazon.
    5) Adam fans started buying it — and, those who are also Kradam fans — picked up Kris’ CD while they were there.
    6) Therefore, Kris’ rise on Amazon follows Adam, but he may have moved more units overall in iTunes.

    Of course, there’s no way to know any of this, it’s just a theory.

  322. Just read who elephant 1212 (I remember him/her from back when details about RS interview leaked (she was leak and she was right)

    Everyone,

    Elephant 1212 is a young woman and the uncle she refers to is highly placed at 19Entertainment.

    She has provided reliable advance information before – for example, through her uncle, she knew both about, and details of, the Rolling Stone cover and interview WELL before it was made public.

    If she says to expect TFM in the roadbloack, it will be there, albeit given the time length, obviously not the whole song.

    Regards,
    Marlenas

  323. ‘American Idol’  second-best finalist Adam Lambert continues topping winner Kris Allen

    LOL! You know someone was either ridiculously cluesless with that line, or knew exactly what they were doing and were aiming for the insider lulz.

  324. dyg- I think what halfie meant by the word “may” is that Clay Aiken went to number one when his debut CD went for presale in July. We just aren’t sure if there was any publicity about it or not. So we really don’t if Adam was a first in that regard.

  325. Doesn’t the fact that Adam’s CD is avail on Best Buy (#1 there also) and B&N negate this theory?

    Hence why I carefully chose the word “significant” before “other outlets”. Amazon accounts for just a sliver of album sales (I forget the exact percentage, but it’s fairly small). Best Buy and B&N are surely insignificant.

    I will concede Sunn’s point, though, that the physical/digital download dimension is hard to think through. But given the relative popularity of downloads (and iTunes generally), I still think it’s likely that Kris’ fans never got around to pre-ordering from Amazon because they already had one copy ready to go in download. If they intend to buy a physical copy, too, they may be waiting to get it at a bricks and mortar retailer.

    Look, I know none of this is “knowable” and those of you who know me understand that I’m not an Adam hater. All I’m trying to say is that the facts of the situation make it a very apples/oranges comparision. It’s great for Adam that he’s #1 on Amazon. It’s great for Kris that he has iTunes available. May both men sell hella lot!

  326. I’m sure I’ll get flamed for ‘pulling a Rickey’ , but the other factor could be that Kris’ album is available through iTunes, so that his fans have a significant alternative place from which to buy.

    No flaming from me, I’ve wondered if the pass could have affected the overall numbers. Wouldn’t the iTunes pass include fans who want their music digitally. I would think Amazon sales would be comparable for fans who want “hard copies”.
    I’m a “hard copy” cd person myself. I either order from Amazon or go to Target. I was planning on waiting to buy my Adam cd at Target. What would be the advantage of pre-ordering it?

  327. American Idol’  second-best finalist Adam Lambert continues topping winner Kris Allen

    LMAO! tsk tsk tsk, I wonder if his editor will slap his hand for that….

  328. Also, going back to the itunes vs amazon argument = not sure what the breakdown is, but, when talking full album purchases (not just singles), does itunes really have such a major market share – particularly compared to Walmart, Amazon, best buy, etc?

    My thinking is, if you want an album, you still may be more likely to purchase it through some place other than itunes, to get the actual physical album. Though itunes of course kills the competition when it comes to pure SINGLES sales. Just a thought that album pre-sale purchases on itunes (e.g. the itunes pass) may not be that significant considering itunes is much more significant as a place to purchase singles, rather than whole albums. Not sure if that makes sense.

    JMO of course.

  329. dyg- I think what halfie meant by the word ‘may’  is that Clay Aiken went to number one when his debut CD went for presale in July. We just aren’t sure if there was any publicity about it or not. So we really don’t if Adam was a first in that regard.

    That’s right. I just meant that there’s a case to be made that Adam’s surge is unprecedented given the paucity of current promotion. But there’s a counter-case to be made w/r/t Aiken, as you say. Plus, there’s a counter-case to be made because (while Adam has very little publicity this week) he has had relatively huge attention paid to him in general, including the cover of Rolling Stone.

    I’m happy folks are happy, truly I am. I’m happy, too. I just don’t want to extrapolate beyond what’s reasonable.

  330. Studio57
    September 30, 2009 at 9:58 am
    dyg- I think what halfie meant by the word ‘may’  is that Clay Aiken went to number one when his debut CD went for presale in July. We just aren’t sure if there was any publicity about it or not. So we really don’t if Adam was a first in that regard.

    I just know *someone* that is into stats will eventually plot this all out for us. But what seems different to me about this case is that Clay’s album went for presale in July. How long after the finale was that? I didn’t follow the season so I don’t know if the timing was the same (i.e. May finale). If so, that was much closer to the publicity of his loss. Adam’s CD went for presale after the tour, four months after the finale. And with no notifications from any outlet, not even Amazon. *shrugs* Not looking to argue with any Clay fans, by the way, just seriously interested in more detail for comparison.

    ETA: Clay also had the cover of Rolling Stone, though I do not know the time frame of that relative to the presale of his CD.

  331. Halfie, i think you are right that it is Kradam fans picking up Kris’ CD too on Amazon, If it was diehard Kris Allen fans, they would have picked it up when it was available, which was before Adams was ( does anyone know exactly how log it was for presale?)

    And Sunn- I think you are right too that diehards will pick up both CD’s and Itunes.

  332. Studio57: Halfie, i think you are right that it is Kradam fans picking up Kris’ CD too on Amazon, If it was diehard Kris Allen fans, they would have picked it up when it was available, which was before Adams was ( does anyone know exactly how log it was for presale?)

    And Sunn- I think you are right too that diehards will pick up both CD’s and Itunes.

    There are many reports of the same thing happening last year with Cook and Archie. Cook went on SNL and performed two songs, his album presale shot up and so did Archies. And their presale tracked together a number of times. But I think that Kris is also getting some sales because of the release of LLWD on Friday.

  333. ETA: Clay also had the cover of Rolling Stone, though I do not know the time frame of that relative to the presale of his CD.

    Aiken RS cover was dated July 10. Which probably means that it came out only shortly before, or even coincident with, his album pre-sales.

    I’ll happily concede (if it’s important) that Adam is the first Idol to go to #1 on Amazon without any of the following:

    1) A Rolling Stone cover in the same month he launched
    2) Any PR during the week before he hit #1
    3) His album pre-sales starting shortly after the Idol finale.

    It still doesn’t tell us much, peeps. All we can say is “it’s good”.

  334. I’m curious if anyone knows what happened with Ruben’s debut CD. Didn’t he have some health issues which hindered him since winning Idol. Also, I thought he won by an insignificant margin, so it could have gone either way as far as who would become more successful (Ruben vs Clay).

  335. Thanks for the info, halfie! It’s not terribly important to me, but since the question keeps coming up I was curious. Since all this chart-watching is new to me, it’s really fascinating.

  336. they likely would have had to pull their roadblock for fear of the backlash.

    Good point– and, yes, many good thoughts and blessings to the people of Phillipines, Samoa and eveywhere impacted — but I wasn’t thinking about natural disasters. Was thinking about tiny, little known indications. If there are any. Things that would make people go, oh, I didn’t know that. Numbers, or ancient alignments with previously undetected points next to the solstice rocks at Chaco. Or could be made-up stuff – that can’t be said to be untrue without a scientific expedition — happening in South America, some ancient oracle’s tomb shifting. (Though some kind of numbers thing the most likely to be something “true”.)

    Surprising things that make the movie look like it’s something other than the past 10 disaster flicks. (And, yes, at least more involving than Flash Forward. Which may be hard to do.) And create a mystery that will be impossible to solve without seeing the movie. And fill in the loooong lead time with something for the audience to do on the Comcast & 2012 web site.

  337. rowanaaine:

    I just know *someone* that is into stats will eventually plot this all out for us. But what seems different to me about this case is that Clay’s album went for presale in July. How long after the finale was that? I didn’t follow the season so I don’t know if the timing was the same (i.e. May finale). If so, that was much closer to the publicity of his loss. Adam’s CD went for presale after the tour, four months after the finale. And with no notifications from any outlet, not even Amazon. *shrugs* Not looking to argue ‘“ seriously interested in more detail for comparison.

    I happen to agree with you on that point and said so yesterday. July 4th was the date so it was about a month after the finale- still riding on the coattails of his loss. Clay fans were so pissed they felt they had to prove something. I don’t feel like that really happened this year. I think Adam fans feel validated for the most part by the press he is getting and aren’t as upset by the loss. And most of us like Kris too. How can you not like him> He’s Sara Lee, lol.

    Cooks and Archies presale happened right after the finale, and Archie’s song also came out before the tour was even over, so i can see why their sales were so high. I just don’t know how much advertising went into it, but at least Archie had to have some kind of publicity since his song Crush came out way before the album.

  338. dyg- I think what halfie meant by the word ‘may’  is that Clay Aiken went to number one when his debut CD went for presale in July. We just aren’t sure if there was any publicity about it or not. So we really don’t if Adam was a first in that regard.

    Thanks Studio57, I don ´t know anything about AI prior Adam ´s BR. I Had not heard of any of the people you guys mention here: Clay, Daughtry, Cook, etc.

  339. That certainly has a lot to do with it, but hasn’t Kris’ presale on Amazon been there longer than Adams? And it only went up that chart after Adams. I thought that was weird.

    It went up on Sunday and became #2 on the movers and shakers list. We should probably have a “thanks to Adam’s fans” for that> haha
    Clay did have a chart topping coronation song(This is the Night) and was singing Invisible at the concerts. Does anyone remember if Invisible was being sold as a single during the summer?

  340. Best AI- big Ruben fan here. I think you are thinking of Bo though- he was the one that had the health problems.

    In a nutshell, Ruben’s first song, “Sorry 2004” ( Yeah, really, there’s a song with longevity, lol) sucked, and so did his album. I didn’t buy it, and I also didn’t buy Taylor’s despite being a fan of his. You can have the best voice in the world ( like Adam’s) but if the material sucks, it won’t sell. And that is the bottom line. Clay’s sold only because of bitter fans. His song, Invisible, was voted one of the most Craptastic songs ever.

  341. Hi, guys! Can anyone update from last night, please?

    What I see is:
    Adam’s album is available in Finland!
    Girl form forum that TFM *will* be part of roadblock
    Perez Hilton is actually in favor of Adam now.
    There have been more favorable reviews.
    Adam is STILL at #1 (yay!).
    Pic there has been changed.
    Adam’s numbers are way ahead of Kris’s, due, in part, to iTunes pass.
    New reviews are pro-Adam but, unfortunately, making this into another Adam v Kris competition.

    Anything else? THANK! :)

  342. Hence why I carefully chose the word ‘significant’  before ‘other outlets’ . Amazon accounts for just a sliver of album sales (I forget the exact percentage, but it’s fairly small). Best Buy and B&N are surely insignificant.

    Sorry, jumping in here without reading the last page, but got to get ready for work ‘“ man, it’s an Adam storm in just the last hour. I believe Q3 quoted a stat of 18 percent as Amazon’s market share, which is nothing to sneeze at. WalMart, of course, had the largest market percentage of hard CD sales.

    Someone else later said Daughtry’s downloads only accounted for 25 percent of his total sales (granted, this is going to depend on the demo ‘“ Miley and Co. probably have more digital downloads), so to extrapolate that out, was Amazon’s 18 percent total hard copy CDs or total of units sold?

    Either way, they are not insignificant totals and apparently the digital to hard copy CDs (if the earlier poster’s research holds water, but I remember thinking it well supported when I read it) is not as dramatic as we’ve been led to believe.

    ETA: Oh, and LOL at your movie trailer, halfie!!

  343. Things that would make people go, oh, I didn’t know that. Numbers, or ancient alignments with previously undetected points next to the solstice rocks at Chaco….

    And create a mystery that will be impossible to solve without seeing the movie. And fill in the loooong lead time with something for the audience to do on the Comcast & 2012 web site.

    Thanks for the clarification, FHS, and I completely agree with you. That would be a GREAT idea and I wouldn’t be surprised if you’re on to something.

  344. Best AI- big Ruben fan here. I think you are thinking of Bo though- he was the one that had the health problems.

    In a nutshell, Ruben’s first song, ‘Sorry 2004’ ³ ( Yeah, really, there’s a song with longevity, lol) sucked, and so did his album. I didn’t buy it, and I also didn’t buy Taylor’s despite being a fan of his. You can have the best voice in the world ( like Adam’s) but if the material sucks, it won’t sell. And that is the bottom line. Clay’s sold only because of bitter fans. His song, Invisible, was voted one of the most Craptastic songs ever.

    Thanks, Studio57. Was Ruben’s CD not good because it was more difficult to write for his R&B genre? I thought Clay’s career was going pretty good for awhile. Didn’t he have a TV special? Also, like many posters here said, you have to get support outside AI bubble, so Clay must have gotten that. I have a feeling he went downhill because he started acting weird (I could be wrong).

    Studio57, I hope you are not a huge fan of Adam. No offense, but your track record for liking idol’s haven’t been very good (Ruben, Taylor). Just like my hubs said you better not get too interested in any TV show because it will get cancelled (my track record for my fave TV shows not too good).

  345. Guys, please, fill me in! I’m so lost…

    ETA: No one is helping… :(

  346. For SusanM:

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10311907-37.html

    CDs are still the most popular format for music lovers, winning a 65 percent slice of the market for the first half of 2009.

    Among CD retailers, Wal-Mart leads with a 20 percent chunk of the physical music market, said NPD. Best Buy took a 16 percent share, followed by Target and Amazon at 10 percent each.

    So, roughly, Amazon CD sales account for about a 10% share of 65% of the market, or less than 7% overall.

    It’s still good. A very good thing. Happy for Adam, truly I am.

  347. For what it’s worth, Adam’s album (intriguingly named ‘TBD’ :)) has moved from #7 to #5 on the B&N music bestsellers list overnight.

    Read through the thread and IMO what moved Adam’s album from nothing to #2 on Amazon was diehard “rabid” fans trolling the internet for anything about him. And then once media attention was drawn, interested but “non-rabid” fans saw the story and moved it to #1.

    I think there was a coat tail effect for Kris’s album, with some Kradam buyers and also some die-hard Kris fans not wanting Adam to best their favorite. Nonetheless, so far he’s not been able to break the top 50, and moved down overnight from I think #57 to now #61.

    For whatever it’s worth (and I totally get that it’s not any kind of guarantee of any kind of success) this is still a significant achievement for Adam, and portends good things.

    And as far as the long-term value of “rabid fans”, I think any wanna-be artist would fall to his/her knees with gratitude to have such a fan base at the beginning of their career. It’s a great place to start, and the rest is up to Adam.

  348. dyg- I think what halfie meant by the word ‘may’  is that Clay Aiken went to number one when his debut CD went for presale in July. We just aren’t sure if there was any publicity about it or not. So we really don’t if Adam was a first in that regard.

    Clay sold 600,000 CD’s in his first week of release. His freshman album soled nearly 2 million in total. If that’s the only precedent, well then Wahaaaay!

    But realistically, imo, the Clay comparison bares no relevance to Adam in terms of either sales or fandom size. Adam is playing in an entirely different market landscape with a completely different topography to it. Any resemblance between the two artists is purely for argument’s sake. There is simply no way to predict future sales today, based on Amazon rankings.

    The music is the thing!!!

    Black Swan.

  349. Best AI- sorry, but yeah, I am an Adam fan, lol. I have a horrible track record! But I still believe with the right material, any of these idols have the potential to be big. Funny thing is I always usually go for the underdog, so maybe since I went with a frontrunner this year my luck will change?

    I don’t think it was necessarily hard to write for Ruben for his genre, I just feel TPTB felt he wasn’t marketable so they didn’t promote him or Taylor, didn’t give them great producers to work with, etc. Clay had a solid thing going there for awhile but he didn’t continue to put out good product. And although I hate to say it, I think he lost a lot of fans when he came out ONLY because the fans were in such denial about him being gay.

    I am actually very excited for Idol now. I think they are getting more and more cred from the music industry as the years go on, thanks to Kelly, Daughtry, and Carrie. I thnk Kris Allen so far has the best single put out by an idol, and I am hoping that Adam tops that. He’s such a loose cannon though, he makes me nervous, lol.

    Sunn, ITA- I don’t think you can compare Adam to anyone, he certainly is his own entity. He’s a breakthrough artist, totally unpredictable, and a hell of a lot of fun to watch.

  350. suebrody
    September 30, 2009 at 10:31 am
    Guys, please, fill me in! I’m so lost’ ¦

    ETA: No one is helping’ ¦

    Nothing to tell really. Album still number 1, arrow is still green, and people are still arguing over how relevant or irrelevant that is.

    All systems nominal.

    And I’m still chanting Black Swan.

  351. So, roughly, Amazon CD sales account for about a 10% share of 65% of the market, or less than 7% overall.

    It’s still good. A very good thing. Happy for Adam, truly I am.

    If Adam has a good (actually, excellent) Amazon showing, it is highly likely he will do well whereever they sell his CD. I think he will do well with iTune downloads too. If people could download “Want”, they will certainly download his real debut single/album.

  352. adamaloha
    September 30, 2009 at 5:49 am
    It’s nice to have a little local-style company here, sistah! (shaka)
    Have you been on the Planet Fierce board?
    Planet Fierce
    It’s another place to talk about Adam’“ and whatevahs.

    Aw, adamaloha…I just noticed the shoutout for PF! Thanks so much. It’s great fun to have so many MJ peeps dropping in. Wish I could get there myself during work hours. *grrr*

    Oh, I just noticed MJ added Idol headlines. I’m off to check it.

  353. Thanks, Sunn! Did halfie tell you I got a tweet from Aimee Mayo???

    AimeeMayo @suebrody1 Don’t know anything yet…. except I have been writing like a maniac. Very excited about the new songs!!!about 7 hours ago from web in reply to suebrody1

    So that’s good news. Did mj post on Twitter?! And wonder why Adam is still #1 with a green arrow on amazon. And no, I am not complaining about this, and the picture is very nice. ;)

  354. Waiting for single to drop.
    Waiting for Time for Miracles.
    Waiting for Album.
    Ladies in Waiting. And some Gentlemen ,too.

    I keep wondering what the sound of Time for Miracles would be.
    The composers are said to be Alain Johannes and Natasha Schneider.
    These are samples of their work :
    You’re My Diamond (Alain Johannes & Natasha Shneider

    Someone to Die For sung by Chris Cornell (Alain Johannes & Natasha Shneider

    Someone to Die For(Alain Johannes & Natasha Shneider

  355. Best AI- sorry, but yeah, I am an Adam fan, lol. I have a horrible track record! But I still believe with the right material, any of these idols have the potential to be big. Funny thing is I always usually go for the underdog, so maybe since I went with a frontrunner this year my luck will change?

    Well – I have a pretty strong track record – so maybe we’ll cancel each other out ;-)

    I couldn’t stand Taylor his year, thought he was a flash in the pan joke, and LOVED Daughtry (had a feeling he would do well) – so that turned out ok. Plus, while I haven’t gotten hugely invested in many other contestants, I tend to gravitate toward those that I see as having a substantial, long career in music. Essentially, I don’t want to get burned following someone who I might personally love, but who doesn’t have much staying power in the industry.

    Imo, Adam has all the right ingredients for long term success. I’m firmly of the belief that with his talent and the right team helping him along he will go far. I’m not predicting earth shattering brilliance from the first album, but he has that potential, unlike any other person I’ve seen on the show, to be relevant in the music industry, and reach out far beyond the typical AI bubble.

    And I also agree it was very very good for him to have lost :-) No thank you, Disney World and Walmart stakeholder meetings!

  356. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10311907-37.html

    CDs are still the most popular format for music lovers, winning a 65 percent slice of the market for the first half of 2009.

    Among CD retailers, Wal-Mart leads with a 20 percent chunk of the physical music market, said NPD. Best Buy took a 16 percent share, followed by Target and Amazon at 10 percent each.

    So, roughly, Amazon CD sales account for about a 10% share of 65% of the market, or less than 7% overall.

    I’m confused by this article. Isn’t 25% including single sales? Single sales have to be HUGE on iTunes. What part of the 25% is actual cd sales? That’s the only way to figure out what percentage online retailers account for. Isn’t it?

  357. More from Aimee:

    AimeeMayo @suebrody1 I am messed up- I am just writing everyday for Adam until this record is done. He INSPIRES me!!!less than 20 seconds ago from web in reply to suebrody1

    AimeeMayo I am missing Twitter….. we got so much work to do today. I am blown away by @OhFerras he is a fireball of talent!!!

    So Aimee continues to be excited and excitable but whatever she comes up w/ for Aimee (and maybe for Ferras) will hopefully be good!

    And more:

    AimeeMayo @suebrody1 yea… we decided to write what we wanted to hear him sing. This is such a crazy job. You just follow instinct and inspiration…less than 20 seconds ago from web in reply to suebrody1

  358. I’m confused by this article. Isn’t 25% including single sales? Single sales have to be HUGE on iTunes. What part of the 25% is actual cd sales? That’s the only way to figure out what percentage online retailers account for. Isn’t it?

    I thought about that, too, tiger92, and I agree there is some ambiguity. I am guessing that they are measuring market share by revenue, not untis (but that could be wrong).

    So, my assumption is (based on the c/net article) that the market segments like this:

    65% Physical CDs
    25% iTunes downloads (singles and albums combined)
    10% Digital downloads not through iTunes.

  359. Animated
    September 30, 2009 at 10:57 am
    Waiting for single to drop.
    Waiting for Time for Miracles.
    Waiting for Album.
    Ladies in Waiting. And some Gentlemen ,too.

    I keep wondering what the sound of Time for Miracles would be.
    The composers are said to be Alain Johannes and Natasha Schneider.
    These are samples of their work :

    You’re My Diamond (Alain Johannes & Natasha Shneider

    Someone to Die For sung by Chris Cornell (Alain Johannes & Natasha Shneider

    It’s an interesting sound, definitely rock. I can see it being more like the Chris Cornell but more orchestral, with prominent strings, and soaring.

    Can’t wait to hear it.

    Thanks Animated.

  360. Imo, Adam has all the right ingredients for long term success. I’m firmly of the belief that with his talent and the right team helping him along he will go far.

    Simon has not been wrong yet, either. He thought Kelly, Carrie, and Daughtry would be big. He thought Carrie would be bigger than Kelly, and she is on her way.

    I’m sure everyone says this about their fave in a different season, but I’ve never gotten on boards before this season. I’ve wasted spent many hours on the AI board during the season, now here. I’ve been trying to keep up with anything Adam. I am exhausted.

    Mary102, I think with everything that Adam has going for him, he should have a good, long career. He also seems to have a lot of support from 19/RCA, producers, writers and media. What more can one ask.

  361. You don’t think it will sound like an Elton John song, perhaps (Don’t Let The Sun Go Down On Me)? Chris Cornell did the Billie Jean cover, also, that Cook sang last year. I don’t know what else he did; I keep thinking Black Hole Sun, but that’s STP.

  362. Q3
    September 29, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    Amazon has an 18% market share of the US CD Album market and sells a much higher share of presale albums. Here are the estimated current shares of the US CD Album market (based on units sold).

    Walmart 29%
    Best Buy 22%
    Amazon 18%
    Target 12%
    Others 18%

    I think this is only referring to PHYSICAL CDs. (which I THINK is about 80% of the overall music selling market).

    Halfie: These are the percentages found by Q3. Now we need to find the iTunes numbers. (for cds only)

  363. Yes Sunn, can’t wait to hear Time for Miracles.
    The duo -Johannes and Natasha write haunting lyrics as well.
    This is part of the lyrics of the Chris Cornell song that I love and I hope they wrote poetry in TFM.

    I’m drunk when sober
    The room is spinning
    You are what I hold on to
    You’re taking over
    I find that giving in is the best I can do

  364. I guess I’d take # 1 of a 7% market over # 60-something in that same 7% market anyday.

    I also looked up the Clay stuff yesterday after all the discussion. Clay’s album went for presale on July 4th I believe. Prior to that, he and Reuben appeared on Oprah on June 10th, where they were the only guests for the hour and performed their singles. Clay’s Rolling Stone cover hit the newstands between June 26-30th, with an issue date of July 10th. The AI tour began on July 8th, so nice synergy with the presale. Kind of a different situation than Adam’s, but doesn’t make it less amazing.

    I’ll be honest, should Adam sell 1/3 of Clay’s 613,000 first week sales, I will be ecstatic. I really don’t see a ton of “ZOMG!!! This means Adam will be the best selling singer EVAH!!” from Adam fans on this blog. I see that generalization made about Adam fans from others, but not really from fans.

    On another note, re MJ’s tweet about Kris winning if he gets the outside the bubble sales,…Ummm..isn’t that true for all of them??

  365. But realistically, imo, the Clay comparison bares no relevance to Adam in terms of either sales or fandom size. Adam is playing in an entirely different market landscape with a completely different topography to it. Any resemblance between the two artists is purely for argument’s sake. There is simply no way to predict future sales today, based on Amazon rankings.

    The music is the thing!!!

    Black Swan.

    Thanks Sunn. I am not interested, at all, in any of the other idols (from this year or previous). I am interested in Adam ´s career and I am enjoying the ride day by day. I am no fortune teller, so I am not making predictions. I just see a fenomenal singer (I had not been interested in a singer for many years), who is starting his career in a great way and I am following it. So, for me, comparisons are insubstantial ;-)

    And YES, Black Swan!!!!

  366. Tiger92, I’m not sure what to make of Q3’s numbers. The comment at the end (CD’s with an 80% share) makes me wonder if it might be 2008 data? The c/net article to which I linked indicated growth in digital downloads of 15-20% a year (with a corresponding decline in physical CDs) so 80% would be about right for a year ago.

    Of course, journalists (even c/net journalists) sometimes get things wrong. But without knowing Q3’s source it’s hard to dig deeper.

  367. So at 2:30 a.m. today amazon finally sent me a notification saying that Adam’s album was available for preorder. No duh! :/

  368. More:

    alreference RT @AimeeMayo @LoveLifeDC Yes. I wrote it with Ryan Tedder and my husband. Adam’s voice is so sexy on it. My Mom was even freaking out.

    @suebrody1 yea… we decided to write what we wanted to hear him sing. This is such a crazy job. You just follow instinct and inspiration…

    Need to stop being stoked about Aimee…tweeted her back…will let you know if I hear more…

    ETA: I don’t think it matters whether or not Adam won. There might have been a few more silly appearances, but at this point it’s all about the material. I would say in the past #2 would either benefit from fewer expectations or would have a harder time getting PR, but clearly neither is the cast w/ Adam.

  369. I understand what dyg1 is saying. I, also, am not interested in any other idol, although I wish them the best, just Adam. I am an Adam fan, not a general idol fan.

    Now when is Time for Miracles gonna leak?

    – gotta leak sometime b4 the roadblock, don’t you think?

  370. Here is some information on digital download vs physical CD.
    Digital Download Business Grows iTunes accounts for 25% Music Sales

    Quoted from article :
    Good old-fashioned CDs made up 65% of music sold in the first half of 2009, said a report from the market research firm, while digital music purchases for use on devices like MP3 players, iPods, and iPhones, made up 35%, most of which were through iTunes.

    From the information Q3 gave , you can deduce as to which distributor (Amazon, Walmart etc) holds the bigger share of the pie on the 65% of CD market. iTunes has the hold over the digital downloads.

  371. spring2009, just click my name.

    Everyone – watch out, Rod Stewart is on the move. He’s #1 in Amazon movers and shakers, jumping from 1893 to 87 and rising fast with a drop date of Oct. 27.

  372. alreference RT @AimeeMayo @LoveLifeDC Yes. I wrote it with Ryan Tedder and my husband. Adam’s voice is so sexy on it. My Mom was even freaking out.

    suebrody– If you don’t stop this right now, I’m going to go completely BSC right here and now at work.

    p.s. Please don’t stop :)

  373. greeneyedlady: LOL

    If I hear more–I keep tweeting her–I will let you know. ;)

  374. Hope this isn’t a repeat, but Amazon.com changed Adam’s picture, I like it, how ’bout you?

  375. This is by far worse than when you were a kid & it seemed like Christmas would never come.
    Lord grant me patience, but please hurry!

  376. Animated: It still doesn’t give us a breakdown of what percentage of cds are sold in that 35%. I’m betting most of that 35% is single sales. That’s the information I’m looking for.

  377. Wow…Adam is still listed as #25 on movers and shakers, just by moving from #2 to #1?? Seems weird to me. Oh and can someone explain the green arrow (Rod, I think he’s named) to me? Does that mean sales are still increasing at a particular rate or what??

  378. Clay is getting a lot of publicity on this blog – I confess I bought his debut CD just because I liked him on Idol (in those days I stayed away from the internet and consequently knew nothing about fan wars). My purchase of Clay’s CD was my first and last purchase of an AI contestant’s CD. I later gave it to the Salvation Army, sorry Clay, but that’s the truth.

    Although I have watched Idol every season, it was only when doing a google search of Adam that this blog turned up on my computer screen (mid or toward the end of the AI season) and I became somewhat obsessed but have refrained from flailing and squeeing (pretty much). :)

    Now that I have a home computer I mostly download singles or greatest hits compilations (although I did spring for the Beatles boxed set which should arrive any day now) – but I will buy Adam’s entire CD. New material, cover, any style, the boy can sing and interpret the hell out of anything IMHO. As for the other Idols from this season, I’m sure I will purchase some singles, but not CDs.

  379. What is it that fans want from Adam Lambert? Is “winning” the statistical spread sheets the important factor in determining if Adam is successful? Is he a failure if other Idols did and do outsell him on his singles and album releases? Is it vitally important that he be the best Idol ever in order for his fans to keep following him…if he falls short will the fandom disappear, or will his fans be the Boston Red Sox of the music industry and continue to cheer him on no matter the results of any given season?

    Right now, Adam really has a pretty clear slate upon which to write his history. It isn’t a check list with headings that he needs to “beat” in order to get a good score. Has it been important in the past for every new group to outscore the Beatles to be successful…and I would say: EMPHATICALLY NO!

    It’s super fun to witness the good things that are happening for Adam. It’s nice to see him top established stars, if even for a single day, and to get some good media hype during the process. But will this make him the next “super star”? How the hell do we know…only time will answer that question. Also, all the peripheral stuff that fans consider so important may not, in truth, even be a consideration when Adam’s career is evaluated in the coming years. Neil Diamond never had a number one single but he sold countless albums and his tours still sell out 30 years after his initial presence on the music scene.

    I’m just along for the ride, enjoying each little tidbit as it comes out. I don’t care what Adam is doing in relation to any other idol…I just want him to have a career so that I can keep listening to his beautiful voice and enjoy his mesmerizing eyes and his happy smile. And, I’m going to be real patient….that’s been the key for Jennifer Hudson fans (who might be one of the best known “idols” outside of the bubble). Instant success doesn’t always guarantee long term stamina.

  380. Delurking for the first time to just say “Yay” for Adam and those of us who wish him the success he deserves.

    I have been an avid MJ reader since Adam and appreciate the viewpoints of all posters (although not avid enough to know what “black swan” is – feel free to humor me if it is on topic).

    Realize that being #1 on Amazon might not mean total music industry world domination but it is enough to make me happy and delurk.

    WooHoo

  381. Welcome from lurkdom underadamsspell!!

    There’s a video that explained Black Swan, but I don’t have the link..

  382. I’m interested in this Aimee Tweet

    @Dionysius1 If he does this song we are writing for him … the sexy one… it’s gonna freak us all out…lol

    Bring on the sexy Adam!

  383. Babs green arrow on the non deluxe version is gone. So Adam seems to be safe from her ‘and the creepy dolls’ for a bit.

  384. I’m interested in this Aimee Tweet

    @Dionysius1 If he does this song we are writing for him ‘ ¦ the sexy one’ ¦ it’s gonna freak us all out’ ¦lol

    Bring on the sexy Adam!

    Yes! I like :-) Adam did promise much sexiness on the album. I cannot see how, knowing him, he could disappoint at least in THAT respect ;-)

  385. @Dionysius1 If he does this song we are writing for him ‘ ¦ the sexy one’ ¦ it’s gonna freak us all out’ ¦lol

    Bring on the sexy Adam!

    I’ve predicted this before, and I’m still predicting at least one restricted lyric song on this CD that the radio stations can’t play “as is.”

    It’ll play into the bad boy reputation, get him lots of press, and it’ll probably sound fabulous!!

    Go Aimee!!

  386. As an aside, can someone explain exactly what a songwriter like Aimee Mayo does?

    I don’t know anything about the music industry, but does a songwriter like Aimee Mayo just write lyrics, or is she also writing the music to go with the lyrics, and what does the producer do in all of this?

    No doubt the answer is “it depends”, but I’ve been wondering about all these songwriting sessions and what happens there.

    Any insight peeps??

  387. Welcome underadamsspell!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_swan_theory

    How many more of you lurkers are out there? I dare you to come out and play!

    Mary-

    I think it stopped being about winning for mostly everyone addicted to this show after Daughtry. I seriously don’t care anymore. Last year 3 of the top 4 were signed to major labels. And then this year the top 4 get signed? Means even less now.

    I thnk I will always be addicted to this show though. It’s fun being Wednesday morning quarterback in the music industry. I can’t see how anyone who loves music can’t be addicted to this show. And if this is the year a star really is born? Icing on the cake.

  388. I’m just along for the ride, enjoying each little tidbit as it comes out. I don’t care what Adam is doing in relation to any other idol’ ¦I just want him to have a career so that I can keep listening to his beautiful voice and enjoy his mesmerizing eyes and his happy smile. And, I’m going to be real patient’ ¦.

    I am with you, Tess!!!!

  389. @Dionysius1 If he does this song we are writing for him ‘ ¦ the sexy one’ ¦ it’s gonna freak us all out’ ¦lol

    Now that’s an interesting tweet.

    I need real news pple!!! This is unbearable, I’m starting to wish I’d never heard of Adam Lambert (not really but you know what I mean).

    I need real news.

  390. I thnk I will always be addicted to this show though. It’s fun being Wednesday morning quarterback in the music industry. I can’t see how anyone who loves music can’t be addicted to this show. And if this is the year a star really is born? Icing on the cake.

    ITA :-) I love music, and love AI. My music snob friends who write off AI – to them I say they don’t know what they’re missing!

  391. I second that and third and forth it Tess. Well done – you couldn’t have said it better. I’m a long for the ride and wish him every success, so I can hear Adam’s beautiful voice for many years.

  392. Yeah, no news, Sunn. But I agree, that Temple of the Dog, Hunger Strike (love that song) so would be SO AWESOME. He was supposed to come out w/ an album this year…dunno what happened.

    Yay for AO (finally), for MTV.com, and for FlashForward.

    I cannot take this anymore…seriously…I can’t.

    Aimee needs to tweet me with more specific info (that three song tweet about the decisionon Monday was NOT helpful).

    Hi, lurkers, btw! This is a safe haven.

    ETA: Aimee has written lots of country songs. Don’t know if they are sexy or not, but she LUUUURRRRVES Adam.

  393. So this lack of Adam tweets….Part of the promotional plan to build intrigue or is he just too busy?

  394. Everyone ‘“ watch out, Rod Stewart is on the move. He’s #1 in Amazon movers and shakers, jumping from 1893 to 87 and rising fast with a drop date of Oct. 27.

    Rod…. ROD, is that you????

    Yeah, but can he sustain his rise up the charts for more than 4 hours in time to top our boy? Only time will tell…..

    Oh, and it’s well past Time for Miracles!

  395. I just want him to have a career so that I can keep listening to his beautiful voice and enjoy his mesmerizing eyes and his happy smile.

    THIS! And although the “big as Elvis, Beatles, MJ” stuff can be fun – I don’t really wish that on him. I don’t remember actually liking a performer as a person before (I’ve never had a fan crush before!) but Adam is just too nice a person for me to want him to have to live the life of a mega superstar. I would like him to be very successful – enough that he can have some reasonable artistic freedom (so if he ever wants to release a disk of broadway showtunes he could get away with it! :) ) – but “biggest superstar ever” is definitely not necessary or even to be desired.

  396. And if this is the year a star really is born? Icing on the cake.

    I think this has happened already ;-)

    Btw, so many articles on Adam being #1 and none of them are in the Idol Headlines thread :-(

  397. “I need real news pple!!! This is unbearable, I’m starting to wish I’d never heard of Adam Lambert (not really but you know what I mean).”

    Sunn, I agree with you! Adam took over my life sometime in the beginning of April and I haven’t been the same since! I wonder if I’ll ever go a day again without thinking about him!? I kinda hope not :)

  398. I need real news pple!!! This is unbearable, I’m starting to wish I’d never heard of Adam Lambert (not really but you know what I mean).

    I know exactly what you mean. Throw me a bone man!

  399. Geez, still no news! The more time Adam spends with his bf, the more I freak out. He is looking and dressing exactly like his honey now. Scary. So, please leak the damn song before some of us lose it. LOL.

  400. Writing a song….turning it into a recorded single.

    Obviously songs usually have lyrics and music. The song writers for the most part develop the lyrics and the melody which, more often than not, has some kind of theme. The initial song is usually pretty basic with a piano or guitar accompaniment. If the songwriters are excellent they will also include music for varying degrees of additional instrumentation and back-up lyrics but that is not a necessity.

    The producer than takes the bare bones lyric and melody and oftentimes with the help of the singer, an arranger and the session musicians (who, IMHO are some of the very best musicians out there) they develop a percusion sound, the manner the singer sings in (straight up, sincopated, auto-tuned, multi-tract) and adds the musical accompaniment that works best with the words and the melody (ie: orchestration, strings, acoustic, rock band back-up, brass and reed, etc.)

    The producer may go a bit overboard sometimes and use all the technology available to him in a recording studio so that (without technical backing tracts) the song becomes very difficult to sing live…hence the immense change-up when a song is sung live.

    Songwriters are still important in coming up with the lyrics and the melody, but it is a “good” producer who makes the song work. That is why “covers” can sound very different from the original work. Different interpretations of the same melody can result, sometimes, in a familiar yet distinct song.

  401. Everyone ‘“ watch out, Rod Stewart is on the move. He’s #1 in Amazon movers and shakers, jumping from 1893 to 87 and rising fast with a drop date of Oct. 27.

    Rod’s now # 3 in movers and shakers. He’s now at #61, 2 hours later.

  402. Squirrely
    September 30, 2009 at 11:58 am

    I can’t argue with this, but you KNOW, deep down, that as a boy Adam dreamed of riding on a float and doing an ‘elbow-elbow-wrist-wrist’  princess wave.

    LMAO! But you know he would make it look cool and sexy.

    This is exactly what I was thinking. Adam has the midas touch. If he had won he would have made that experience his own. We would all have tickets to disneyland by now 8)

    It’s fun to crunch numbers and speculate but he truly is in a league of his own. I am just along for this very entertaining and fun ride.

  403. Everyone ‘“ watch out, Rod Stewart is on the move. He’s #1 in Amazon movers and shakers, jumping from 1893 to 87 and rising fast with a drop date of Oct. 27.

    Who the heck is buying this guy’s scratchy, hackneyed covers? I have never understood the thrill of Rod Stewart. Surely Adam’s, um, Rod, will have more staying power.

  404. I never preordered a CD from anyone from AI either. But the difference for me between Adam and other contestants I’ve liked on AI is, I’ve never heard him sing any song badly. Not on AI, not on the old internet stuff (well, maybe the H.S. Blue Moon…) The only studio version I didn’t download from itunes was NoBo, and that was because it made me mad that he was forced to sing such a goofy song.

    So I figure, even if I don’t like all the songs on his CD, at the very least they’ll be interesting.

    Adam always has the capacity to surprise. Who would have predicted that he would come home from New Orleans looking like Jean LaFitte?

  405. As an aside, can someone explain exactly what a songwriter like Aimee Mayo does?

    Well, I would think she writes the lyrics, and determines the melody and chords. If the songwriter has a specific idea on how the arrangements should be (what musical instruments should be included and how they should be played) I guess they include that in the demo they make? The producer makes the final recording (records the vocal tracks, the tracks for all the different instruments and adds electronic arrangements) and I think he has the final say in the arrangements.

    This would be my guess how things work out but someone else might know better.

  406. So this lack of Adam tweets’ ¦.Part of the promotional plan to build intrigue or is he just too busy?

    I’d put money on him spending most of his days in the studio at this point, in LA, working on the songs and putting the finishing touches on everything. Prob not too much in the tweet dept for a little while. Except the few bones he throws us ;-) Which I do appreciate, btw!

  407. Studio57, thanks for the black swan link. Can’t agree more about that description of Adam’s impact (on me at least)!

    Now that I’m learning all the insiderspeak maybe I’ll delurk more often.
    Gotta go thx

  408. I will come out of lurking briefly to say that I agree with everything Tess said at 12:42, especially

    I’m just along for the ride, enjoying each little tidbit as it comes out. I don’t care what Adam is doing in relation to any other idol’ ¦I just want him to have a career so that I can keep listening to his beautiful voice and enjoy his mesmerizing eyes and his happy smile. And, I’m going to be real patient’ ¦.that’s been the key for Jennifer Hudson fans (who might be one of the best known ‘idols’  outside of the bubble). Instant success doesn’t always guarantee long term stamina.

  409. Adam always has the capacity to surprise. Who would have predicted that he would come home from New Orleans looking like Jean LaFitte?

    I know, right? I predicted he’d come home looking like Redbeard and ain’t my face red right now!

  410. What’s this about a parade? Is that the reason for Adam’s new look? Is he going to be waving to the masses from a pirate float? I don’t care how good his princess wave is or how much he resembles something out of “Pirates Of The Caribbean” this sounds like a bad idea. The sight of him on a Disney float would be scary for a variety of reasons.

    @maura It means that Lambert has a huge online fanbase, ready to buy his music, but if Kris picks up more sales outside the bubble’“he wins

    Kris wins what?

    A toaster and a new plaid shirt.

  411. Squirrely
    September 30, 2009 at 11:58 am

    I can’t argue with this, but you KNOW, deep down, that as a boy Adam dreamed of riding on a float and doing an ‘elbow-elbow-wrist-wrist’  princess wave.

    LMAO! But you know he would make it look cool and sexy.

    I thought in the WDW ad at the concert, when Adam said, “Go, Kyle, yeah!”, there was just a smidgen of snark in his voice, just enough to make it funny. Disney and Adam would have been an….unusual mix. I wouldn’t wish it on him. They are supposed to be hard task masters.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_POUq9WoJPQ

  412. ravengirl
    September 30, 2009 at 1:45 pm
    Who the heck is buying this guy’s scratchy, hackneyed covers? I have never understood the thrill of Rod Stewart. Surely Adam’s, um, Rod, will have more staying power.

    LOL ravengirl!!

    Rod does have a huge following though, especially since he started in on the standards. That’s why I got scared when I saw him in Movers and Shakers. I think he’s got the potential to rocket up to the top 10 very quickly.

  413. For KLI:

    Songwriters can specialize in music, lyrics or both. (I think that Mayo is primarily a lyricist, but I don’t know for sure).

    ETA: Oops, Tess beat me to it and with a much more thorough explanation. Teach me not to hit refresh before responding.

    Producers work with the songwriter(s) and performing artists (if they are different) to work on how to arrange the song, work in different background music, tempo, etc.

    Sometimes producers do so much with a song that they also get co-writing credit. Just — as you said — “depends.”

  414. So it sounds like the songwriter is all about “inspiration” and the singer/producer are all about “implementation.” (Except when “it depends!!)

    Would it be fair to say then that a “demo track” is one that involves the songwriter and singer but does not yet include the involvement of a producer?

    If so, this helps me understand a little better the HiFi problem with Adam’s demo tracks earlier in the summer.

    I have learned so much on this board about the music industry. Thanks for the answers to my question regarding the role of the songwriter, singer, and producer.

  415. Working on ‘Kiss N Tell’ 

    I thought HiFi ecords had those songs on lock, can this be the same Kiss and Tell?

  416. Naaah…I’m sure it’s Selena Gomez’s Kiss N Tell.

    It’s part of her new album and she’s working with Dr. Luke and Claude Kelly.

    Dr. Luke is supposed to be doing a remix.

  417. Peeps are really hoping this is not Adam’s Kiss n Tell that Dr Luke was tweeting about

  418. Naaah’ ¦I’m sure it’s Selena Gomez’s Kiss N Tell.

    It’s part of her new album and she’s working with Dr. Luke and Claude Kelly.

    Dr. Luke is supposed to be doing a remix.

    Dangit, CindyM, would it have killed ya to play along for a little while?? I was so excited that we might have a new version of Adam’s song because they’re so fresh together! (Er… Adam and those producers… oh, never mind….)

  419. Naaah’ ¦I’m sure it’s Selena Gomez’s Kiss N Tell.

    It’s part of her new album and she’s working with Dr. Luke and Claude Kelly.

    Dr. Luke is supposed to be doing a remix.

    Aww – that makes better sense. Thanks CindyM

  420. ravengirl
    September 30, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    Who the heck is buying this guy’s scratchy, hackneyed covers? I have never understood the thrill of Rod Stewart. Surely Adam’s, um, Rod, will have more staying power.

    LOL ravengirl!!

    Rod does have a huge following though, especially since he started in on the standards. That’s why I got scared when I saw him in Movers and Shakers. I think he’s got the potential to rocket up to the top 10 very quickly.

    LOL too!! I still prefer Rod as opposed to Bob, but not now if Stewart is infringing on our little game.

    Thanks, CindyM, that had me a bit worried for a second.

    Leak. Black Swan. Leak.

  421. wow- remember Kiss n Tell???

    Working on ‘Kiss N Tell’  !!!!!! 10:08 PM Sep 11th from web
    (this is a post from dr.luke, who is mixing for adam’ ¦)
    http://www.adamofficial.com/node/744855

    Too funny! It isn’t ALWAYS about Adam!

    If he’s not working on Adam’s version of K and T, what about Glamorize? Could he work on that one? LOL.

    That song is HOT!

  422. Naaah’ ¦I’m sure it’s Selena Gomez’s Kiss N Tell.

    It’s part of her new album and she’s working with Dr. Luke and Claude Kelly.

    Dr. Luke is supposed to be doing a remix.

    Whew! Big sigh of relief about that. Not a favorite of mine. Sorry BB.
    Now how about a TFM leak already!!!!

  423. Comparing to Kris’s Amazon pre-orders or theorizing on how these ‘sales’ support anything is really fun for the boards but beside the real significance of the point behind the hoopla on Adam reaching #1 in sales on Amazon.

    The points are really:
    the speed in which an album that had no announcement or media push at all, wound up #1.
    Followed by the fact that to replace the current #1 (Babs) that had 60 plus days worth of pre-sales is amazing.
    That is then followed by the MOST SIGNIFICANT POINT;
    the media picking up the story and running it in syndication all over the place; New York Post (MJ), People, CNN, New York Daily, Extra, The Advocate, EW, MTV, Fox News, Fashion.ie, Hollywood Gossip, St. Louis Post Dispatch (and many other local outlets/papers and online) etc.

    Combined these translate into BUZZ ‘“ and this Biz is about BUZZ ‘“ Adam is also creating a brand as well as beautiful music.
    You can’t put a price or a value on BUZZ.

  424. Rod’ ¦. ROD, is that you????

    Yeah, but can he sustain his rise up the charts for more than 4 hours in time to top our boy? Only time will tell’ ¦..

    LOL anthrogeek! And BTW, don’t think I didn’t see how you threw me under the bus last night, blaming me for starting the green arrow/Bob/Rod jokes. I was only continuing what others had started…

  425. @halfie, I shudder to think of what havoc you could wreak on the twitterverse with your hilarious, diabolical ways if you started doing Adam imposter tweets.

  426. Here’s what I would recommend Adam should tweet:

    Twitter Party!!! Thursday night between 9:50 and 10:00 Eastern. Tweet all questions @Rickey — he’ll pick the best for me.

  427. If I were Adam, I’d say something myseterious and watch the twitterverse go nuts.

    LOL! Yes, along the lines of Kris’s breakfast food riddle. Adam twitter-riddle, please ;-)

  428. Another Adam suggestion:

    Considering covering @KrisAllen4Real’s #livelikeweredying for 1st single. What do u think?

  429. BTW, guys – Adam obsession kicked in another notch for me last night when I had a huge epic dream involving Adam and various Lambert family members (think his mom, dad, and brother were all there ;-)) MW kept playing throughout, and at one point the first single got leaked, and I was reading MJ’s review of it ;-)

    I won’t spill any deets, because my most vivid dreams of late have been very off base (as in, predicting something that was the opposite of what actually happened). But it was pretty interesting that I can actually recall how portions of this song (that I made up) sounded in my dream.

    Ok, officially way too obsessed (if it wasn’t already official before…though I think it was).

  430. lol halfie… i dont think you would even have to have an impostor account, you would just have to pretend to retweet something he “said” and the people stalking his @’s would flip out.

    RT @adamlambert fianlly picked the single yall!!!!! its the JAM!

  431. @halfie so bad.

    Ask @aimeemayo to pick one. She already has three in mind. ;)

    I hope the roadblock adds to the buzz…please release TFM, RCA, pretty please…

    ETA: Sigh, Extra. Sigh.

  432. Considering covering @KrisAllen4Real’s #livelikeweredying for 1st single. What do u think?

    LOL! This would be a great tweet from Adam. Cue fanwarring in 3..2…1…

  433. Another Adam suggestion:

    Considering covering @KrisAllen4Real’s #livelikeweredying for 1st single. What do u think?

    ROFLMAO! Now that I’d actually buy…

  434. RT @adamlambert fianlly picked the single yall!!!!! its the JAM!

    You have to say ‘it’s sick!!!!!!!!!!’

  435. hahaha… halfie

    ah yes squirrely – places are THE JAM and music is SICK. got my adam vocab mixed up. impostor fail.

  436. halfie – why aren’t these on twitter yet?! What’s keeping you?

    I’d just love to see some of those fake tweets and the fan-dom going crazy over them!

  437. dyg- I think what halfie meant by the word ‘may’  is that Clay Aiken went to number one when his debut CD went for presale in July. We just aren’t sure if there was any publicity about it or not. So we really don’t if Adam was a first in that regard.

    What do you mean by “publicity”? Publicity could be anything. According to the archived Clay boards, his album went to #1 just like Adam’s did: it showed up on day on Amazon, fans noticed and catapulted it to #1.

  438. Here’s what I would recommend Adam should tweet:

    Twitter Party!!! Thursday night between 9:50 and 10:00 Eastern. Tweet all questions @Rickey ‘” he’ll pick the best for me.

    I lurve it. No problem — we would tivo fifteen minutes of TV during that time, and then go on Twitter. Knowing Rickey, however, he would make up his own questions like, “Have you thought about learning to play a musical instrument so people might take you seriously as an artist?”

  439. hee lmao halfie.wow this thread isn’t dead yet and were not hi-jacking hedlines?kay

    wassup ,homies? I just got back frm school. have some homework .I think I will multitask doing my homework,being on MJ’s and looking for theose pictures of adam so I can use them as my avatar.DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER WHERE THIS ONTD_AI PICS OF ADAM IN THE BLUE AND BLACK SWEATER WITH LEATHER TRIM.IT WAS FROM A MEET AND GREET.PLEASEEEEEEE HELP.Oma i think it was clevelend or somewhere in Ohio but idk.can’t wait for(maybe) tfm tommorow.have to stay up late for that.must figure out how.hmmmm. I know it’s not supposed to start this week but th weather in indesisive here.it was rainy then sunny…I thing it’s just waiting for the …ADAMSTORM!!!!

    oh and hi:D

  440. Here’s what I would recommend Adam should tweet:

    Twitter Party!!! Thursday night between 9:50 and 10:00 Eastern. Tweet all questions @Rickey ‘” he’ll pick the best for me.

    I’ve been thinking that right before the storm starts (assuming such a thing is happening) he should just Tweet

    “Get Ready!!!!!!!!” and leave it at that (note multiple exclamation marks!!!!!).

    Everyone would go nuts speculating about it. It would be too funny.

  441. KLI, I just love Glamorize- it is SOOO Adam

    Maybe he can sing this lovely piece of “song porn” on his solo tour!

    Wish we knew what rights he has to produce these songs now. I suppose with enough money he could pay off anyone he needs to.

    Then again, hopefully his new stuff is even better.

  442. Another thing I just thought of (isn’t it almost always easier to just end with a preposition, and it really does flow better) — since Adam performed at a private party this past weekend, he didn’t have give a cut to 19, publicist, etc. So, he pocketed 100% of the earnings. I guess he has to pay taxes, tho.

  443. um I think elaphant1212(was that her name) posted that at the EARLIEST the single will be released next week

    annnnd….

    should I be worried for my limitedsanity since I remembered adam’s exact outfit from that meet&greet?

  444. um I think elaphant1212(was that her name) posted that at the EARLIEST the single will be released next week

    annnnd’ ¦.

    should I be worried for my limitedsanity since I remembered adam’s exact outfit from that meet&greet?

    LOL! We should ALL be worried for our sanity at this point ;-) Lack of news and posting on MJ’s has suddenly made me much more antsy for news. I might even visit the Sarver twitter party (maybe he can get album deets from Adam – j/k!)

    And I agree – elephant person said last week that we could expect a storm in the next few weeks (iirc) – so not necessarily this week.

  445. LOL! We should ALL be worried for our sanity at this point Lack of news and posting on MJ’s has suddenly made me much more antsy for news. I might even visit the Sarver twitter party (maybe he can get album deets from Adam ‘“ j/k!)

    And I agree ‘“ elephant person said last week that we could expect a storm in the next few weeks (iirc) ‘“ so not necessarily this week.

    Groan. Are you kidding me? Next few weeks? I was so waiting for the weekend to be over anticipating this week’s blitz. Oh, the pain, the agony.

    I checked Sarver’s twitter page. He is struggling to get 2,000 followers. At the rate he and Adam are going, Adam will get 200,000 before he hits 2,000.

  446. No news here except for the funny pseudo Drake tweets by halfie? OK, I picked a good day to get something done.

  447. Luv, wasn’t it detroit where he wore the sweater?

    Ummm..and I know…lame of me to ask. Can someone link me to the 2012 schedule that shows what channels and what time in what regions?? I gotta finagle a visit to someone who has Comcast and I better do it today..lol. I have dish network and I’m not sure if I’ll see it..will I?

  448. We would all have tickets to disneyland by now

    I can picture all of us wearing glittery MM ears

    I’ve been thinking that right before the storm starts (assuming such a thing is happening) he should just Tweet

    ‘Get Ready!!!!!!!!’  and leave it at that (note multiple exclamation marks!!!!!).

    And a next twat:
    “It ´s gonna be siiiiiiiick!!!!!!!!!”

  449. http://pr-canada.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=129191&Itemid=65

    Reality stars can be so scary’ ¦

    Adam and SuBo are listed. :P

    Ack!! I knew that was coming and Do. Not. Want.

    LOL!! To the fake tweets. Ingenious about the RT concept halfie ‘“ see, you are diabolical.

    Hi Luv,

    should I be worried for my limitedsanity since I remembered adam’s exact outfit from that meet&greet?

    We’re all right there with you, but I don’t remember the sweater, unfortunately. Will keep a lookout for your avatar though!

  450. Luv, wasn’t it detroit where he wore the sweater

    hi Susan m.

    hey Cindy m? I think
    I love you.brb going through a thousand posts to TRY to get one picture……::

  451. I got a tweet from Michael Sarver.

    michaelsarver1 RT @suebrody1: @michaelsarver1 Michael: Three things you take w/ you on a desert island? Food water bible9 minutes ago from Echofon

    So that’s two from Aimee Mayo, one from Sarver. This means that TFM will be played tomorrow night, the video will come out Friday, and the single comes out 10/12. How do I know this? Because I AM ON A ROLL. ;)

  452. BestAI, you meant 20,000 followers, right? I thought Michael had well over 10,000 the last time I looked.

    You’re right. But it seems he’s been working on getting those 20,000 followers for awhile. Only a few hundred to go. Adam can give him that many with no problem.

    Michael was 100 away from 20,000. after the tour ended he lost about 200 followers

  453. Woohoo…Adam has now moved up to the #16 option when you search for “Adam Lambert” under “Music” on Amazon. He’s still on page 2, but earlier today he was the #22nd option!! Way to go Adam..heh. It cracks me up that Kris is the 6th option and Subo is the 7th and Adam’s own album is #16.

  454. Damn, suebrody! You ARE on a roll. I am on the edge of my seat for this promo tomorrow night.

    My hubby was so smug that he was going to avoid it. “It won’t be on the channels I watch,” he snarked.

    I called him at lunchtime to inform him, “Sorry babe. NFL Channel, NHL Channel and Golf Channel are all in the media roadblock. Pffffffffft!”

  455. luv, if you can be patient (hard, I know…believe me) for about 3 hours until I am home, I can give you the photo. I have it saved and can probably find it fast for you.

  456. luv, if you can be patient (hard, I know’ ¦believe me) for about 3 hours until I am home, I can give you the photo. I have it saved and can probably find it fast for you.

    REALLY ROWENAAINE??!! thank you !!!!!!!!!!!! that would make my life
    .tide are my favorite Adam pictures evah.THANK YOU SO MUCH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <3 I went through all the post in the Detroit thread and he was erring a different sweater there:)

  457. will *try* to get my hw done.I feel so add right now but not…

  458. BestAI
    September 30, 2009 at 4:27 pm
    CindyM, what do those option # mean?

    When you search for “Adam Lambert” in “Music” on Amazon it gives you product selections. Adam’s pre-sale CD doesn’t even show as a purchase option until page 2, #16. Kris’s album and SuBo’s album show up as purchase options before Adam’s does. Just seems weird to me.

  459. Am I correct that it was around this time yesterday that Adam moved into the #1 spot at Amazon? If so, YAY for 24 HOURS!

  460. You guys crack me up. This thread is now buried on Page 2 and I was looking around on the front to see where y’all might have landed, but you’re all still here busily gathering info.
    DON’T LOSE ME AGAIN!
    I just can’t quit you.

  461. When you search for ‘Adam Lambert’  in ‘Music’  on Amazon it gives you product selections. Adam’s pre-sale CD doesn’t even show as a purchase option until page 2, #16. Kris’s album and SuBo’s album show up as purchase options before Adam’s does. Just seems weird to me.

    Yeah, what’s with searching for him and getting just about everyone under the sun from AI BEFORE you get to Adam (on the second page). We have Kris, Archie, Matt G, Michael Johns, et al … then Adam. I think someone mentioned that the search algorythms may need some time and tweaks to become more accurate.

    Ok, I am seriously in need of something to keep my occupied! At least SYTYCD and Glee are on tonight to pass the time.

  462. You’re welcome, luv! Check back on here about 7:30 PM (eastern, I’m in NY) and I’ll have a link for you to download it. :) Unless someone beats me to it, which is OK too. ;)

    OK, on topic post comin’ up.

  463. Reminder:

    I’m still reading this thread, just in case you thought I wasn’t. ;). I’ve been deleting the rehash (really, Season 8 is over, so is the tour) and some of the off topic stuff.

    One more reminder to cut back on the chit chat–please keep this thread relevant and newsy.

    By the way. Lol that peeps dug up the conversation I had with Maura on twitter. The use of the word “win” was shorthand and said a bit tongue in cheek…

  464. <Am I correct that it was around this time yesterday that Adam moved into the #1 spot at Amazon? If so, YAY for 24 HOURS!

    um no it waslike 3:30 yesterday.duhj/k

    woooow saaaad I know this(facepalms)

    luckily I don’t have TOO much hw…

  465. Ravengirl, we’ll have to tether ourselves together to ride out the AdamStorm and make sure we don’t get separated.

    Man, whoever heard of such iron-clad security with all the peeps working around this damn album AND the movie? I wonder if they censured elephant’s uncle. (That sounds so ridiculous.) Even he’s not spilling right now.

    Going CRAZY!!!

  466. Yeah, I’m doing pretty well on the Twitter front. Wish I had some real info to share, tho. Maybe I should tweet Aimee again…

    When you search for ‘Adam Lambert’  in ‘Music’  on Amazon it gives you product selections. Adam’s pre-sale CD doesn’t even show as a purchase option until page 2, #16. Kris’s album and SuBo’s album show up as purchase options before Adam’s does. Just seems weird to me.

    I don’t understand that if Adam is the #1 pre-sale???

    Thanks for comcast link. I couldn’t find it…I need the extra 3 minutes! ;)

    This is the little thread that could-that and there is NOTHING else going on in Idol Land. Maybe tomorrow night @10:55PM EST? ;)

    ETA: God, I wish I had more info to impart. :(

  467. I read on IDF that promos for 2012 were just done in China, Germany, Japan and some other countries for 2 minutes, reference is page 23 on idolforums.com Adam Lambert- Adamstorm thread. No Adam. The U.S. may be different, but I doubt it. Speculation is that he will showcast in the 5 minute comcast on the internet following the roadblock on tv. elephant1212 did not clarify if it was the tv roadblock or the comcast after the roadblock. So we may need to get onto the comcast right away and listen carefully.

  468. By the way. Lol that peeps dug up the conversation I had with Maura on twitter. The use of the word ‘win’  was shorthand and said a bit tongue in cheek’ ¦

    hee.sorry MJ.I posted back on pageone because I
    thought it made sense even if it was tongue and cheek.

    even though their competing with everyone else too the first person kradam is (probably) each other.it was a competition,did the right person win and it’s an easy story to write.hell,I could*probably* do it.

    so um yeah Kris could “win”

  469. Mary102
    September 30, 2009 at 4:50 pm
    When you search for ‘Adam Lambert’  in ‘Music’  on Amazon it gives you product selections. Adam’s pre-sale CD doesn’t even show as a purchase option until page 2, #16. Kris’s album and SuBo’s album show up as purchase options before Adam’s does. Just seems weird to me.

    Yeah, what’s with searching for him and getting just about everyone under the sun from AI BEFORE you get to Adam (on the second page). We have Kris, Archie, Matt G, Michael Johns, et al ‘ ¦ then Adam. I think someone mentioned that the search algorythms may need some time and tweaks to become more accurate.

    Yeah, that was me. It was a longwinded comment on page 8 (wow, 4 pages since then?) regarding the way the search function works on Amazon (and other places). It’s impossible to figure out cuz they don’t want us to!

    But, I suspect in another 24-48 hours we’ll see it migrate to the first page of the search…not necessarily in the top spot…but at least on the first page. LOL I’m sure they lost a few sales by not making it super easy to find the CD once it took off.

  470. 54  days, 7  hours, 54  minutes and 58  seconds
    UNTIL THE ALBUM….ok must start hw now….

  471. Aloha and good day!
    Have to go back and read.. but did anything BIG happen today?

  472. Adam still at #1 on Amazon, but has lost Bob (the green arrow). In fact none of the top 6 have arrows right now…

  473. greeneyedlady
    September 30, 2009 at 5:15 pm
    Adam still at #1 on Amazon, but has lost Bob (the green arrow). In fact none of the top 6 have arrows right now’ ¦

    so in other words.. nothing.

  474. But the good news is that Rod Steward has dropped chart positions. He’s now #78 when 2 hours ago he was #74.

  475. CindyM
    September 30, 2009 at 5:21 pm
    But the good news is that Rod Steward has dropped chart positions. He’s now #78 when 2 hours ago he was #74.

    I’ve never been a Rod Stewart fan. Thought he looked embalmed on the finale. (ducking now)

    What does Bob’s departure mean for Adam on Amazon?

  476. If you hover your cursor over the green arrow, it means “ranking has gone up over the past 24 hours.” Adam has been in the #1 spot for over 24 hours so the arrow is gone. No need to flail or panic quite yet! :)

  477. rowenaaine
    September 30, 2009 at 5:28 pm
    If you hover your cursor over the green arrow, it means ‘ranking has gone up over the past 24 hours.’  Adam has been in the #1 spot for over 24 hours so the arrow is gone. No need to flail or panic quite yet!

    Thanks, Rowena. I just don’t feel much like flailing today. Unless it’s for something good.

  478. You guys know anything about this tweet?

    ADAM_SIGNAL There is a song mixed by J. Scott G w/vocals by Adam circulating online. This is old material and is not a leak for Adam’s forthcoming album

    Also that Cantiello jambajim guy DMed me saying that Adam’s “people” aren’t letting him near Adam:

    jambajim I will excite Adam fans when his team FINALLY lets me talk to him or his producers!!

  479. I got Rod jokes…… but I ain’t gonna use ’em… he’ll be up and down over the next six weeks, so we gotta pace ourselves and save some jokes for later….

  480. Adam’s cd is now be pre-sold in Sweden!!

    Anyone speak the language to see the ranking?

    http://megastore.se/template/next%2CProduct.vm?itemid=2154629

    They don’t have rankings as such… But Adam’s album is not among the top 20 pre-ordered albums. Actually I think it’s the same top 20 list as was posted previously for Megastore Finland, so Megastore probably shows a combined list for Sweden, Finland and Norway.

    Yes, Adam’s album is also available in Norway through Megastore. :)
    http://www.megastorenorge.no/template/next%2CProduct.vm?itemid=2154629

  481. Oh, I feel better. It’s kind of sad, isn’t it. My mood can be affected by a green arrow nicknamed Rod.

  482. If you hover your cursor over the green arrow, it means ‘ranking has gone up over the past 24 hours.’  Adam has been in the #1 spot for over 24 hours so the arrow is gone. No need to flail or panic quite yet! :)

    Whew, rowenaaine, would hate to think Bob/Rod’s premature ‘“ er ‘“ demise signified a lack of potency or ‘“ um ‘“  Adam’s longevity.

  483. Wow, Cantiello DM’ed you.

    Here is latest Adam music, maybe:

    A Guy Singing Some Song with Another Guy

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uITvyQoRZv0

    This could be that Scott guy again…I think it’s kind of catchy, tho.

    So we have to log onto the web right away to get the last 3 minutes of the comcast roadblock? Why?!

  484. Oh, and Rolling Stone finally weighed in on Adam’s Amazon rise (did y’all already post this?):

  485. pre-emptive lmao anthrogeek;Daloha Adam aloha.nooo nothing.yay!

    jambajim I will excite Adam fans when his team FINALLY lets me talk to him or his producers!!

    ummmmmm this in INTERESTING….waiting for conspiracy theories…3,2,1!!!!!!!!!!

    no but seriously what do you guys think ?

  486. Whew, rowenaaine, would hate to think Bob/Rod’s premature ‘“ er ‘“ demise signified a lack of potency or ‘“ um ‘“ Adam’s longevity.

    So his interest we… I mean, waned…. happens to a lot of guys arrows.

  487. Rod/Bob needs to rest while he goes to therapy to figure out exactly who he is and what his purpose is in life. Otherwise he will never be happy.

    ETA And thank you, Luvie. I was hoping for a leak today.. :(

  488. Rod/Bob needs to rest while he goes to therapy to figure out exactly who he is and what his purpose is in life. Otherwise he will never be happy.

    His sole reason for being is to support Adam in his rise to the top… of the CHARTS, people! Geez!

  489. ravengirl
    September 30, 2009 at 5:35 pm
    Oh, and Rolling Stone finally weighed in on Adam’s Amazon rise (did y’all already post this?):

    Link please?

  490. Also that Cantiello jambajim guy DMed me saying that Adam’s ‘people’  aren’t letting him near Adam:

    jambajim I will excite Adam fans when his team FINALLY lets me talk to him or his producers!!

    Eh, not surprised. It seems like Adam’s people are trying to connect him to more people OUTSIDE the idol bubble than inside. Not a bad strategy. Besides, Jim’s got his hands full with his hard-on for Kris, not sure he needs much more stimulation right now…

  491. Rod/Bob needs to rest while he goes to therapy to figure out exactly who he is and what his purpose is in life. Otherwise he will never be happy.

    God, I wish they’d all do that …

    jambajim I will excite Adam fans when his team FINALLY lets me talk to him or his producers!!

    I need to follow Jim. C’mon Cantiello, break this baby wide open! I mean, MJ can’t do EVERYTHING.

    ETA: Does anyone have that RS link. If it was posted before, I missed it.

  492. ravengirl
    September 30, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    Oh, and Rolling Stone finally weighed in on Adam’s Amazon rise (did y’all already post this?):

    No, I haven’t seen it…

    I asked Cantiello, BTW, if this was a new Kris article…I assume so.

    ETA: From Rolling Stone:

    Whose upcoming album are you most excited for?

    * John Mayer 20% 1318
    * Adam Lambert 51% 3404
    * Shakira 14% 952
    * Eminem 15% 989

    Total: 6663 (Not surprised. Idol fans lurrrrve online polls.)

    Still can’t find the link for RS article…

  493. my mood can be affected by a green arrow nicknamed Rod.

    Rod/Bob needs to rest while he goes to therapy to figure out exactly who he is and what his purpose is in life. Otherwise he will never be happy.

    His sole reason for being is to support Adam in his rise to the top’ ¦ of the CHARTS, people! Geez!

    LMFAO

  494. cindyM Besides, Jim’s got his hands full with his hard-on for Kris, not sure he needs much more stimulation right now’ ¦

    Into the corner with anthro… NOW.

  495. soooo WHY do u guys think Jim
    can’t talk to Adam ?that makes sense Cindy m

    b back soon…finihed math,have history +english

  496. adamaloha
    September 30, 2009 at 5:46 pm
    cindyM Besides, Jim’s got his hands full with his hard-on for Kris, not sure he needs much more stimulation right now’ ¦

    Into the corner with anthro’ ¦ NOW.

    Awwww do I have to???

  497. If you hover your cursor over the green arrow, it means ‘ranking has gone up over the past 24 hours.’  Adam has been in the #1 spot for over 24 hours so the arrow is gone. No need to flail or panic quite yet

    !

    Okay, I get that the loss of Bob-Rod was inevitable, as long as Adam stayed at #1 for 24 hours. So this is a good thing. *mourns the loss*
    *gets over it*
    No arrow is the new green arrow. Less flashy, more classy…

  498. Thanks for RS link. :) Have shared with Sunn as well. Will be back later.

  499. I went to the comcast site for 2012. If you click on the fanfare to watch after the roadblock there are 2 videos and you can’t watch either. One is 1min 32sec and the other is 2 min 38 sec. I am wondering if the first one is for roadblock tv and the second one is the longer internet version – maybe the one with Adam. But neither are viewable and the box states available after the roadblock.

  500. Hey guys,

    Why are we in the basement today? Did we do something wrong?

    I see Bob is gone. Maybe it’s the end of his shift, he’ll be back tomorrow.

    I need real news. Today has been deadly silent.

    Black Swan

  501. I hope we don’t see him back tomorrow. You only get the green arrow if your ranking has gone up in the last 24 hours. Since Adam has now been #1 for more than 24 hours, no more Bob/Rod.

  502. Eh, not surprised. It seems like Adam’s people are trying to connect him to more people OUTSIDE the idol bubble than inside. Not a bad strategy. Besides, Jim’s got his hands full with his hard-on for Kris, not sure he needs much more stimulation right now’ ¦

    LOL at your comment, but so true.
    Likely Adam’s people are being picky now who gets to interview him. One has to be careful to not select people who are trying to promote someone else through Adam. E.g., during the tour that girl who interviewed Adam who was a huge Kris fan and tried to demean Adam while promoting Kris.

  503. A little off topic, but someone had a youtube to mp4 converter link up here one night, I can’t find it….

  504. Wow, I made the mistake of rebooting my computer and almost didn’t find this place.

    Besides, Jim’s got his hands full with his hard-on for Kris, not sure he needs much more stimulation right now’ ¦

    love this, CindyM

  505. hmmmm I expected more ott ness from filling stone.I subscribed to them just because of their Adam love haha

    still have hw…brb….;)

  506. Eagle-eyed kids at ONTD_AI spotted this on twitter:

    michelleozbourn Sooooo excited! Incredible news about my guys Ryan Tedder and J_SKINS and Adam Lambert. Patience is a virtue.

    We may have hint towards the first single.

  507. I remember tweets between Alisan Porter and Adam that I construed to mean one of her songs was going to be used. Perhaps it’s just not going to be the first single.

  508. Eagle-eyed kids at ONTD_AI spotted this on twitter:

    michelleozbourn Sooooo excited! Incredible news about my guys Ryan Tedder and J_SKINS and Adam Lambert. Patience is a virtue.

    We may have hint towards the first single.

    WOAAHHHH THEY ARE KICK A$$ STALKERS!!!!!!!

    who is she?

    i’m guessing well know around..um…friday?

    looking at j skins tweets.

    kinda sad aimee’s song didn’t get picked but hopefully it’s on the album !!!!

  509. I think the news of the deluxe edition is going to stall sales. One of the first comments under the announcement was from someone that said they were glad they didn’t pre-order now.

  510. this was j_skins last tweet

    p.s. I love all the gossip about “Obsession” right now. haha I wish I could answer all your questions, but you will just have to be patient. about 17 hours ago

    that is the Adam song right??!!!

    soooooo THE FIRST SINGLE IS CALLED OBSESSION???!!!!

    why is that Adam ? is there something you’re trying to tell us?

  511. Studio57
    September 30, 2009 at 7:00 pm
    Anyone else have a feeling today is the calm before the storm?

    I dunno .I think so becuz tfm is out tommorow!!!!

  512. that is the Adam song right??!!!

    soooooo THE FIRST SINGLE IS CALLED OBSESSION???!!!!

    why is that Adam ? is there something you’re trying to tell us?

    Wellllll I think its something he is experience first had.. of course I am not involved.. just sitting here stalking waiting for news.. 8)

  513. I think I posted this J_SKINS tweet last night:

    p.s. I love all the gossip about “Obsession” right now. haha I wish I could answer all your questions, but you will just have to be patient

    Patience seems to be a recurring theme…

  514. twinkle – THANK YOU for the link and the NEWS!

    …apparently there is going to be a special deluxe version of adam’s album! im not sure what that means, but look! fun words like SPECIAL! and DELUXE!

    http://www.adamofficial.com/news/pre-order-available-now-special-deluxe-edition-coming-soon

    I guess I am buying another version – maybe it’s referring to the anticipated itunes LP with extras – maybe that will be the deluxe version – I will buy everything/anything (unless its from walmart)

  515. Luv i found ur pic but i don’t know to transfer it here–I have it in my documents and pics can someone help me

  516. hi dsp!!!!!! thanks!!!! yeah that’s the one.waaaait,do you have the link to the picture or the actual picture? I *think* you need the link for it to work on gravatar.maybe you could copy and paste that here? THANKS <3

  517. dsp, I think you can upload it to twitpic or photobucket, then paste the link. Luv can grab it from there.

  518. I don’t have the link…..Just the pic….I will keep looking…all i can figure out is how to email it cause i don’t have the link…i have to go to a work meeting so i will check my other computer later to see if i copied it with a link on my desktop

  519. I just used the converter about 15min ago but still no email.. hmmmmmm does it normally take a long time to send the email

  520. that’s okay.THANK YOU SO SO SO SO SO SO MUCH FOR LOOKING FOR IT DSP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    <3

    I *think* rowenaaine has the link…

  521. hi luvadamlambert just right click on the picture select copy and paste into Paint

  522. p.s. I love all the gossip about ‘Obsession’  right now. haha I wish I could answer all your questions, but you will just have to be patient. about 17 hours ago

    Notice the wording on this. Obsession may or may not be the single. Don’t jump to conclusions.

    Although it is fun to go BSC and throw caution to the winds and all that….

  523. hi spinastory! I wish I could do that except I’m not *allowed* to open it on my computer so I don’t have my picture there.the picture’ on my iPod touch but I can’t find the link:(

    thanks for helping though!!!!:)

    maybe we should try talking a little about Adam on amazon or his single or tfm.I don’t want you guys to get in trouble with MJ for being off-topic when you’re helping me:)

    brb finishing hw…

  524. Notice the wording on this. Obsession may or may not be the single. Don’t jump to conclusions.

    huh adamaloha??!! It’s beena long day and I’m confuzzled…

  525. I think the news of the deluxe edition is going to stall sales. One of the first comments under the announcement was from someone that said they were glad they didn’t pre-order now.

    This just means I have another CD to order :)

  526. ok really going now btw

    greg_wells Mr. Lambert in studio today 18 minutes ago

  527. Well, Adam’s New Release 2009 finally made it to the first page of the Adam lambert page on amazon.

    The CD is #6.

    luvadamlambert
    September 30, 2009 at 7:32 pm
    Notice the wording on this. Obsession may or may not be the single. Don’t jump to conclusions.

    huh adamaloha??!! It’s beena long day and I’m confuzzled’ ¦

    Me too, Luvie. Me too.

  528. I just used the converter about 15min ago but still no email.. hmmmmmm does it normally take a long time to send the email

    It usually arrived the next morning if I sent it the prior evening. Its a good service but it takes patience. BTW-if you save the video on your computer, you can use the first option-convert files, which converts it right away

  529. greg_wells Mr. Lambert in studio today 18 minutes ago

    Who is Greg Wells?

  530. Greg Wells is a musician and Grammy nominated record producer and mixer based in Los Angeles. Wells has produced, mixed and written hits with Katy Perry, OneRepublic, Mika, Pink, Colbie Caillat, Jamie Cullum, Deftones, Otep, The Veronicas, Jessie Baylin, Rufus Wainwright, Kyosuke Himuro and Gerard Way of My Chemical Romance, Creeper Lagoon, Natasha Bedingfield

    Wells produced the “‘Apologize” remix by Timbaland and the original version by OneRepublic making it one of the most successful selling and charting songs of the decade.

    Mika’s debut album Life in Cartoon Motion, produced, mixed, and largely played by Wells, was one of the highest selling albums in the world in 2007-08 at 6 million units globally.

  531. Go to Greg Wells site and click on discography. He is working on Adam’s cd. Producer, co-writer, multi instruments.

  532. The CD is #6.

    What? I checked it like 15 minutes ago and it was still No. 1. Yeah, he’s still there.

    At first I thought, “Oh sure, AO, makes some DELUXE announcement and stop sales dead in their tracks …”

    What did you mean?

  533. Go to Greg Wells site and click on discography. He is working on Adam’s cd. Producer, co-writer, multi instruments.

    Thank you! He’s worked with some pretty cool people. It’s very neat that he’s Canadian and grew up just a couple of hours from me!

  534. Thanks very much mama2dasha I do have patience I do I really really do.. just not for Adams music.. sigh

  535. Susan M.
    September 30, 2009 at 7:51 pm
    The CD is #6.

    What? I checked it like 15 minutes ago and it was still No. 1. Yeah, he’s still there.

    Sorry. Take a breath. I meant #6 on the Adam page.

    He’s still #1, of course…… in record sales.