Adam Lambert Adds Max Martin to List of Album Collaborators

While most of the the Idol Season 8 Top 10 are in Boston today, cooling their heels before they perform tomorrow night at the Garden, Adam Lambert is in New York City recording tracks with Max Martin for his upcoming album, due to be released this fall. According to his latest tweet:

Onto to stuff that matters: in NYC to record song with MAX MARTIN!!! Soo excited. This album is getting so great!!

Martin is the pop mastermind behind hits for Kelly Clarkson, (‘Since U Been Gone’ ) Britney Spears (” ¦ Baby One More Time, ‘ ) Pink (‘So What’ ) and Katy Perry (‘I Kissed a Girl’ ).

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Add Martin to a growing list of collaborators working with Adam on his upcoming album. That list includes, OneRepublic’s Ryan Tedder, Lady Gaga producer RedOne, Linda Perry, Greg Wells, Sam Sparro, Ferras, David Hodges, and Kara DioGuardi. (thanks, snuffles)

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80 Comments

  1. I’m excited about this one! My iPod is full of Max Martin hits. Here’s hoping he’s created something great for Adam. :)

  2. Here is my updated list of collaborators:

    UPDATED LIST OF ADAM PRODUCER/SONGWRITER COLLABORATORS (August 17, 2009)

    CONFIRMED (by either Adam or The Media)

    Ferras (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferras )
    RedOne ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RedOne )
    David Hodges ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hodges )
    Kara DioGuardi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kara_DioGuardi )
    Alisan Porter ( http://www.myspace.com/thealisanporterproject )
    Greg Wells (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Wells )
    Ryan Tedder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Tedder )
    Sam Sparro (with Jesse Rogg) ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Sparro )
    – Jesse Rogg (Modus Vivendi Music – http://www.myspace.com/modusvivendimusic)
    Linda Perry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Perry)
    Jim Jonsin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jonsin)
    Max Martin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Martin
    Rob Cavallo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Cavallo – **For the 2012 Soundtrack but could possibly end up on the debut album as well.

    UNCONFIRMED (Information collected on Twitter or Wikipedia)

    Lauren Christy ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_christy) (part of the writing team called “The Matrix”)
    Desmond Child (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Child)
    The Sophomores ( http://www.myspace.com/glacierhiking )
    – Jared Scharff (also plays guitar for the “Saturday Night Live Band”)
    – Ross Golan – http://www.myspace.com/rossgolanandmolehead (also of “Glacier Hiking”)
    Mitch Allan ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitch_Allan )
    Ely Rise – http://www.myspace.com/elythecreep (wrote “Movin’ On” for Elliot Yamin)
    Kevin Rudolf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Rudolf
    Eman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emanuel_Kiriakou
    Josh Skinner http://www.myspace.com/joshskinneronline
    Robert Fleischman http://www.robertfleischman.com/bio.htm
    James A. Michael
    The Writing Camp (song writing team) http://www.myspace.com/thewritingcamp
    Evan Bogart http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_Bogart, http://www.myspace.com/evanbogart
    John Fields http://www.mcdman.com/fields.html
    Bleu (born William James McAuley III) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleu_(musician)

    IN TALKS FOR A COLLABORATION

    Dr. Luke ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Luke )
    **confirmed here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA5g9aalwLA
    Slash

    DESPERATELY TRYING TO WORK WITH ADAM

    Aimee Mayo ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aimee_Mayo) She’s a country music writer (she’s written for Kellie Pickler) who’s been stalking Adam on Twitter begging for him to write with her. It’s pretty funny. Her tweets are so melodramatic.

    ETA: Still desperate after all these months haha.gif haha.gif

    http://twitter.com/aimeemayo

    QUOTE
    I’m gonna write Adam Lambert a big- ass- hit-song this week… ba-dum-ba-dum-ba da… i can feel it coming in the air tonight…
    about 10 hours ago from web

  3. Snuffles, I’m so impressed. I hadn’t even heard about a number of those potential collaborators. Thanks.

  4. This is what I like about Adam. His excitement is so infectious that, we, the fans are getting impatient to get hold of his album. Good marketing. I really hope that it turns out to be great and not a typical AI debut album. It seems to me that both RCA and 19E are really supporting him and maybe these record producers are the ones requesting RCA for him to record their song. Easy work for RCA instead of them looking for producers.

  5. I am so worried my expectations are going to be through the roof for this album that not even Adam will be able to fulfill them. It sounds like this album has number 1 written all over it. I can’t wait to hear the first cuts from it.

  6. No wonder this poor guy has to hold back on the vocals during the tour – needs to save some for the album ……….Continued success to Adam, he has my full support on his journey!

  7. All I can say is WhooHoo. I CAN’T WAIT TO GET MY HANDS ON THIS ALBUM!!!

  8. Adam is like a little kid at Christmas( Hannuka I guess is a better thought, hee)! He is sooo excited! Compared to Kris who is so much better about keeping a lid on what is going on with his album. lol! I really hope all these people add up to great music. :) I didn’t know you could have that many collaborators, writers, etc on an album. No wonder Adam is tired. :)

  9. I am very excited for Adam. Hopefully some of the songs are actually great! I still want to keep my expecations low so I won’t be too disappointed if the album turns out so so. He gets my support regardless, but I hope his music will be good enough to get him new fans.

  10. Eek! Maybe that too many collaborators. Even if he did one song with each, he would have enough for three albums. Who gets to decide what is on the record?

  11. No wonder Adam is tired. :)

    Yep.. He hasn’t had any day off since the Tour begin and so does Kris and Allison..

  12. No one knows how successful any of the Idol albums will be. The important thing here is that these people WANT to work with Adam. In most every case the collaborator contacted him, not the other way around. I don’t know what the future holds but right now things are looking darn good.

    As far as holding back on the vocals on tour? Oh my. If that’s holding back it just gives you an idea what he’s capable of when he goes full out.

  13. Eek! Maybe that too many collaborators. Even if he did one song with each, he would have enough for three albums. Who gets to decide what is on the record?

    I think Red One said they did 6 songs.. I guess they do as many as they can and then the Labels, RCA, will decide which one makes the record. I really hope that 2012 soundtrack would be in his album.

  14. I can’t get excited about a list of of professional collaborators who’s job it is to churn out pop hits. I tried, believe me.
    I am only excited about the prospect of new Adam Lambert material for my IPod.

    The thing with professional collaborators, and the list is great, is that there are no real singers/performers, that I respect as writers, among them that I can see. Tell me Scissor sisters, Matt Bellamy or Noisettes are writing material for adam, and I’ll pop the champaign.

    As it is, I’ll keep the bubbly on ice until I hear the album.

    As an observation, the amount of people on that list should produce enough material for 3 albums. So, hopefully they’ll have a lot to choose from, and will be able to get 11, eeehh… OK 5, descent tracks.

  15. The thing with professional collaborators, and the list is great, is that there are no real singers/performers, that I respect as writers, among them that I can see. Tell me Scissor sisters, Matt Bellamy or Noisettes are writing material for adam, and I’ll pop the champaign.

    I’m pretty excited about Sam Sparro. I think “Black & Gold” is amazing and very Adam-like.

  16. Tell me Scissor sisters, Matt Bellamy or Noisettes are writing material for adam, and I’ll pop the champaign.

    Me tooooo. But I’m popping the apple cider now, because his collab list is a LOT better than previous Idol runnerups have gotten, even if it’s not to everyone’s taste.

    The thing with collaborators is that you immediately think of the best works they’ve produced and imagine Adam getting something like that… so off to listen to the worst Max Martin songs out there now.

  17. I doubt the 2012 song will be on his album. If they only include it on the movie soundtrack then all of us crazy Adam fans are going to buy two albums, instead of one.

  18. There’s a lot of money being poured into Adam by RCA, eh? Does anyone know what management Adam and Kris may opt for? If they both go with 19M, then one will get better treatment, but anyone who goes with another management loses the whole 19 cross-advertising machinery.

  19. RCA/19 is throwing alot of kelly clarkson people adam’s way aren’t they? well at least it has all the makings of a solid pop album.

    Sunn Aug 17th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    I can’t get excited about a list of of professional collaborators who’s job it is to churn out pop hits.

    that’s pretty much describing 100% of idol albums produced under the management of 19 so far, though. the idols’ job is pretty much to be the mouthpiece for songs written and produced for them. sure, the head honchos will throw them a couple of co-songwriting bones now and then to make them feel involved, but at the end of the day, these albums will always be manufactured from a business pov, not an artistic one.

    if someone like kelly clarkson can sell 20 million albums worldwide and still have trouble with the label re artistic vision, it doesn’t bode well for future idols at all. thus, the catch-22 of idol fame.

  20. I think 19 thinks Adam will sell well which is why they are spending so much money on him.

  21. Who’s to say there is not the same or more being poured into Kris and/or Allison? Jive as a whole just seems to be very tight lipped about their artists. Neither Kris nor Allison has publically said much about their albums. The problem I see with so many collaborators would be the cohesiveness of the album. I can see too many different styles being a problem and the audience may not connect well with it. Also, we don’t know what their particular roles are in the each of them is playing in the overall process or if any of their efforts will make it into the final product. It could be that there are so many because they have not found what they were looking for in the others. Let’s all just wait and see.

  22. The problem I see with so many collaborators would be the cohesiveness of the album. I can see too many different styles being a problem and the audience may not connect well with it.

    This. Is my second greatest worry (other than there being too much dreck).

  23. Jesus crust that is a shit ton of collaborators. how is that.. even gonna work? Are there normally that many people involved in one CD? Is adam gonna do any part of it himself (just kidding you guys although if his preidol music is any indication of his writing/composing skills perhaps it is best if he’s just used as a mouth piece because some of those songs were pretty damn terrible but i’m just saying.)

    Seriously though. His album sounds like it’s going to be kind of impersonal. Just a bunch of churning out “hits.”

    I know it’s a honor to have that many people interested in you… But it seems all This guy wrote This song.

    but whatevs. Best of luck. His album is gonna be full of Hits!

  24. If they both go with 19M, then one will get better treatment

    IIRC, that’s why Clay Aiken sued 19M because I think at that time both he and Reuben were under 19M. I might be remembering it wrong though!

  25. Sherena
    Aug 17th, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    Me tooooo. But I’m popping the apple cider now, because his collab list is a LOT better than previous Idol runnerups have gotten, even if it’s not to everyone’s taste.

    Is it really? Good, I’m glad.
    I’m new to Idol you see, so I have no point of reference by which to compare.

  26. Working with a large number of producers and songwriters is pretty much the norm for most recording artists. SOMETIMES artists choose to stick with one producer (which is what Kris is doing); but usually end up working with a ton of song writers anyways.

    And they also record 3 to 4 times as many songs that end up on the album. As to who decides which songs end up on the album – that’s usually the label.

  27. Seriously though. His album sounds like it’s going to be kind of impersonal. Just a bunch of churning out ‘hits.’  [snip]

    but whatevs. Best of luck. His album is gonna be full of Hits!

    Hmm, I’m not worried about impersonal, because Adam has a way of making every song his own, even when he’s singing covers. And I *hope* he has hits! That’s often about much more than just who you’re working with. It’s image and marketing and luck and more luck. But yeah, for a post Idol album, from what I’ve listened to, it seems like personal and artistic is not going to work. There’s just not enough time.

    Is it really? Good, I’m glad.
    I’m new to Idol you see, so I have no point of reference by which to compare.

    I’m new too! Hey. But I looked stuff up, to get a better understanding of how this works. But feel free to correct me anyone.

  28. “I can see too many different styles being a problem and the audience may not connect well with it.”

    – It may or may not be a problem. But I’ll be positive about it. He’ll be catering to more than one set of listeners and people will have more choices and that will be fine. As long as these producers made use of his great vocals, that’s what matters most to me.

  29. I take it they write and record tons of songs but there is a collection to resort to use as fillers – look at how many songs Michael Jackson had unrecorded and recorded that we only heard of after he died. I guess the same goes here for Adam. I think it is wise to have a wide variety of collaborations, makes it easier in the long run than to just stick to one person – the variety is not there…………Adam is making sure he makes up for lost time for the past 8-10 years he struggled. Don’t blame him he is a hard worker and a go-getter, it truly pays off in the end. I like his style very much!

  30. Hmm, I’m not worried about impersonal, because Adam has a way of making every song his own, even when he’s singing covers. And I *hope* he has hits! That’s often about much more than just who you’re working with. It’s image and marketing and luck and more luck. But yeah, for a post Idol album, from what I’ve listened to, it seems like personal and artistic is not going to work. There’s just not enough time.

    There’s a difference between like, making a song your own, and trying to sell a song as if it’s actually your own. It’s hard to explain, but whatever, that’s how I feel.

    and hits! are great. But is “baby one more time” anyone’s favorite song? Hits! are great for the summer. but next summer? there are new hits!

  31. There’s a difference between like, making a song your own, and trying to sell a song as if it’s actually your own. It’s hard to explain, but whatever, that’s how I feel.

    Non of the top 3 will get to write their own music, not for this album anyway. For one thing, by all accounts, it doesn’t seem to be the Idol-freshman-album way. And for another, they simply don’t have the time.

  32. Non of the top 3 will get to write their own music, not for this album anyway. For one thing, by all accounts, it doesn’t seem to be the Idol-freshman-album way. And for another, they simply don’t have the time.

    Which bugs me a bit. It would bug me more if I were a fan of Kris/Adam, but they have to be in such a frenzy to put out an album, it’s crazy. I know they have to strike while the iron is hot.. but i mean, Adam could put an album in February instead of november and the same exact people would buy it.

  33. alison8701 Aug 17th, 2009 at 6:31 pm

    There’s a difference between like, making a song your own, and trying to sell a song as if it’s actually your own. It’s hard to explain, but whatever, that’s how I feel.

    and hits! are great. But is ‘baby one more time’  anyone’s favorite song? Hits! are great for the summer. but next summer? there are new hits!

    I can’t think of ONE Idol finalist that had a major record deal that was able to create this elusive “personal” album that you seem to speak of. Very few new artists have their first album filled with songs written and produced mostly by them. They almost always get TONS of help from professional song writers and producers to ensure some “hits”.

    And that’s what the label wants, it’s “hits”. Hits will help sell an album, sell tickets to tours and ensure that an artist gets to make MORE albums – and usually with those later albums they get more creative input. But they have to prove themselves first.

  34. alison8701 Aug 17th, 2009 at 6:42 pm

    Which bugs me a bit. It would bug me more if I were a fan of Kris/Adam, but they have to be in such a frenzy to put out an album, it’s crazy. I know they have to strike while the iron is hot.. but i mean, Adam could put an album in February instead of november and the same exact people would buy it.

    That’s not true. The buzz would almost be gone. February is a dead month for selling CDs and by then the next season of Idol would be in full swing and some people might move onto the next fresh young thing.

    Besides, the fall quarter is the BIGGEST sales quarter of the year. It’s when the labels make the bulk of their money. Never underestimate the awesome power of Christmas shopping and stocking stuffers.

  35. There’s a difference between like, making a song your own, and trying to sell a song as if it’s actually your own.

    That never worked for Whitney Houston, Celine Dion, Mariah Carey,
    Brittney Spears, Justin Timberlake, Aerosmith, Katy Perry, Aretha Franklin, The Jackson Five, The Supremes, Elvis Presley, Frank Sinatra, Mary J. Blige…etc. etc.?

    Which of this seasons Idols do you think will be writing all of their own songs (or even one song entirely) for their album? My answer is none of them, unless it’s a self-produced sold-on-myspace deal.

  36. MJ

    I always come HERE to get the latest news! You seem to get it for us first! Now I don’t have to hunt all over the web anymore. Thanks!

    I’m encouraged that RS keeps writing about Adam. Adam’s excitment for his album is infectious! Sounds like he has some great people working with him. Wish it was NOVEMER!!

  37. I know they have to strike while the iron is hot.. but i mean, Adam could put an album in February instead of november and the same exact people would buy it.

    I agree completely. I wish they would rethink the schedule for releasing the albums. Yeah, they want to catch the Idol viewers that would forget the alumni by the next season…. but would those people be buying the sophomore albums anyway? Not really.

    It’s the kind of approach that makes sense in a “make the most money right here right now” mentality… but from the individual singer’s perspectives, it would be better to wait to put out a better product, and sacrifice some sales on the first album to build a stronger fanbase for their future albums.

  38. And that’s what the label wants, it’s ‘hits’ . Hits will help sell an album, sell tickets to tours and ensure that an artist gets to make MORE albums – and usually with those later albums they get more creative input. But they have to prove themselves first.

    EXACTLY! This is how it’s always done in most commercial entertainment. Sure, there are those rarities that break through with all their own stuff, just like there are independent films that win Oscars occasionally. More often than not, a recording artist must prove he or she can sell before they’re allowed to have free reign (rein?  I looked it up, they’re both right).

    Just like once an actor proves they can open a picture, they can have their choice of parts. Until they’ve built up that level of power, they usually take what’s offered to them.

    I think it’s HUGE that all these people are interested in working with Adam. You go, BB!!

  39. I know they have to strike while the iron is hot.. but i mean, Adam could put an album in February instead of november and the same exact people would buy it.

    No, the same exact number of people would not be buying in February, as those who bought in November/ December. Christmas/Thanksgiving are huge sales seasons. And CD’s are fantastic, and common stocking fillers.

    Release in February, and you lose a Whole dren load of sales.

  40. The thing with professional collaborators, and the list is great, is that there are no real singers/performers, that I respect as writers, among them that I can see.

    Sunn, I’m focusing on some of the writers that are a little outside the box such as Ferras, Sparro, Alisan, RedOne, etc. Hopefully, there are more writers out there that we haven’t heard of yet writing for the album as well. :)

    The problem I see with so many collaborators would be the cohesiveness of the album.

    Cohesiveness, IMO, comes from an artist knowing who they are and having an identity. That way, regardless of the song, it has their stamp on it. I think Adam can do this. Cohesiveness of simply theme or sound, on the other hand, can be a crutch. Did you read the reviews for Daughtry’s last album? People don’t want to buy an album where the songs aren’t discernible from one to the next. Adam’s trick will be to put his signature sound/voice on each track, regardless of theme/genre.

    But is ‘baby one more time’  anyone’s favorite song? Hits! are great for the summer. but next summer? there are new hits!

    “Baby one more time,” I hate to say it, is a classic from my generation. Same with “I Want it That Way.” I haven’t heard either of those songs in years, but I can sing you every lyric right now even though I’m not a Britney/BS Boys fan, nor do I own any of their albums or have gone to any of their concerts. Good pop songs are loved by all and most importantly, stick and have lasting appeal. People liked those songs whether they wanted to or not and would sing along joyfully if they heard them again. I think Max Martin is talented in that respect.

  41. But is ‘baby one more time’  anyone’s favorite song? Hits! are great for the summer. but next summer? there are new hits!

    I love that song. It’s classic pop at it’s best.

  42. My expectations are pretty low, given the time frame, number of people trying to get a song on this album, and the Idol track record. It will be Adam, but not the whole Adam.

    So what does he have to do to get a second record? He needs minimum 2-3 radio-friendly songs, and respectable sales for a first album. That is what the long-term winners have done (Kelly, Carrie, Davids, Daughtry, Jordin). That should not be too hard. Plus if the 2012 song is good, that will help generate interest.

    Not every track has to be amazing, and while Adam talks a good game about support from RCA, you know they’ll have the final word on which songs are on the record. But getting some play/promotion before the next Idol show is critical, as well as the whole holiday sales thing.

  43. Not really impressed by Max Martin, never liked the songs he wrote, except for maybe his Lutricia McNeal stuff. Formulaic. I am guessing his production team submitted songs for Adams album that Adam took liking too and now they are trying to get a prel recording of them?

  44. Argh, I can’t wait for this album already. Sam Sparro, Max Martin, RedOne… plus his amazing voice, seriously, I don’t know how this album can go wrong at this point. Unless RCA fucks themselves over more than they usually do.

  45. Can anyone say platinum or gold. Adam is on his way to a sell-out record and career. He has so much ahead of him, just hope he stays true to himself. The stores better order double for his CD because they will sell out for sure. I-tunes will have records sales. I can’t wait!

  46. The thing with professional collaborators, and the list is great, is that there are no real singers/performers, that I respect as writers, among them that I can see.

    If I had to wait for that, I’d probably never drink my champers and I love me some champers. ;)

    (However, I do really like a lot of RedOne’s stuff and I think he does a great job of taking the individual artist’s personal sound and making it catchy, hooky and a total earwoom.)

    Argh, I can’t wait for this album already. Sam Sparro, Max Martin, RedOne’ ¦ plus his amazing voice, seriously, I don’t know how this album can go wrong at this point. Unless RCA fucks themselves over more than they usually do.

    I am excited as well. RedOne has worked with some of my favorite, recent pop artists (Lady GaGa, Kat DeLuna and Little Boots) and I really enjoy the Sam Sparro album. I don’t know much about Max Martin, but from the references here, he seems to do some good pop tunes.

    Oh, and pretty much ditto to everything LisaE said.

  47. I am not as familiar with all these names as others are, but I don’t have to be; Adam is happy so that is what counts. I am trying to be patient waiting for the album because I really really want to hear it. I have a feeling that it will be so wonderful, beca;use of Adam’s voice and all the creative energy being put into it. I have to stop thinking about it or I’m gonna go nuts. Adam has totally rocked my world, all good, and I think he is the most exciting artist and personality in many many years. I am so appreciative of all the fans putting his videos online and writing comments about their experiences at the concerts. Adam has a great group of people as fans putting time and energy to do these things. Spreading the love.

  48. But is ‘baby one more time’  anyone’s favorite song?

    Well, it was a tremendous hit. But, I’m no fan of Britney. Nevertheless, check out Marty Casey’s interpretation of the song for Rock Star INXS. His voice isn’t the best, but he shows the song has great bones. The thing is, Max Martin wrote that song for Britney, and it fit her pop-teen temptress image to a t. I’m sure what he’s writing for Adam is very much Adam-centric.

    Anyway, here’s Marty:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8AvxF4FWEA

  49. But is ‘baby one more time’  anyone’s favorite song? Hits! are great for the summer. but next summer? there are new hits!

    I think BOMT is more than just a summer hit. Britney basically built her career on that song. I think it’s going to go down in history as a classic pop hit of our generation.

  50. snuffles – great list. Thanks for sharing!! It is an impressive list that increases the odds that this will be a good album.

    Regarding the album being “cohesive”: Why does an album need to be all one genre? Most of the great “rock” albums are multi-genre albums. The Beatles to Pink Floyd to Muse — all produced multi-genre albums. Adam has a distinct and recognizable vocal style that will can unify the album.

    All we know right now is that Adam has an impressive list of collaborators. That means that they will have a lot of material to choose from to put on the album and to give us bonus track and hidden tracks.

    Finally, all of the Idol albums involved a lot of songwriters. Cook had one producer but worked with 22 songwriters on his first album:

    1. “Declaration” David Cook, 1 Johnny Rzeznik, 2 Gregg Wattenberg
    2. “Heroes” Cook, 3 Cathy Dennis, 4 Raine Maida
    3. “Light On” 5 Chris Cornell, 6 Brian Howes
    4. “Come Back to Me” 7 Amund Bjà ¸rklund, 8 Espen Lind, 9 Zac Maloy
    5. “Life on the Moon” Cook, 10 Bjà ¸rklund, 11 Lind, 12 Maloy
    6. “Bar-ba-sol” Cook, 13 Danny Grady, 14 Dan Dixon
    7. “Mr. Sensitive” Cook, Maida
    8. “Lie” Cook, Bjà ¸rklund, Lind, Maloy
    9. “I Did It For You” Cook, Maida
    10. “Avalanche” Cook, 15 Kevin Griffin
    11. “Permanent” Cook, Maida, 16 Chantal Kreviazuk
    12. “A Daily Anthem” Cook
    “Kiss on the Neck” (hidden track) David Cook, 17 Neal Tiemann
    13. “The Time of My Life” 18 Regie Hamm
    14. “My Last Request” (iTunes pre-order Bonus track) Cook, 19 Jess Cates, 20 David Hodges

    15. “Breathe Tonight” (Japanese edition and Walmart Bonus track) Cook, 21 Sam Hollander, 22 Dave Katz

  51. Q3
    Aug 17th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
    snuffles – great list. Thanks for sharing!! It is an impressive list that increases the odds that this will be a good album.

    Regarding the album being ‘cohesive’ : Why does an album need to be all one genre? Most of the great ‘rock’  albums are multi-genre albums. The Beatles to Pink Floyd to Muse ‘” all produced multi-genre albums. Adam has a distinct and recognizable vocal style that will can unify the album

    British bands have always produced multi-genre albums, American bands not so much. I think it may have something to do with the radio play format in the US. Radio stations in the UK are not nearly so restrictive in terms of their playlists.

    At any rate, being a brit and very used to the multi-genre record, I don’t really see it as a problem for Adam’s album. I think it adds to the marketability of the record overseas.

  52. At any rate, being a brit and very used to the multi-genre record, I don’t really see it as a problem for Adam’s album. I think it adds to the marketability of the record overseas.

    I can’t see them letting him do the multi genre thing with his album, seemingly with no reservations, if they weren’t going to market him overseas as well. The U.S. music industry likes to put things in boxes… I’m taking this as hope that they will really position Adam for success in Europe and Asia as well, and put as much promotional firepower behind that as they’re going to do in the U.S., because he would fit in better there. With his Britishisms and all.

  53. The U.S. music industry likes to put things in boxes’ ¦ I’m taking this as hope that they will really position Adam for success in Europe and Asia as well, and put as much promotional firepower behind that as they’re going to do in the U.S., because he would fit in better there. With his Britishisms and all.

    I think the brill part here is that the Adam has a US fanbase already, which can be worked and expanded on. Chatting AI has made me realize how I definitely lean British more than American (although I wonder if I am more urban/city vs. not as the UK gets lumped with its citified side more than the US), but I do think the US audience does get the short end with a lot of pandering to “the masses” which is harder to pin than European “masses” (which do get associated more with the city side as the media is way more centralized in Europe than the US, and the urban culture dominates there). I do think Adam has a decent shot at the US, but pandering to non-US as well will be good as it is easier to target the less de-centralized media and culture, plus I think he can fit in quite well, from my experiences in the UK. They tend to be more open to “outside” (culturally and nationally) pop stars than the US (and a lot of American acts have used to Europe to break before even trying the US, from the Backstreet Boys to King of Leon). Plus, albums that aren’t soundalike on every song do very well on the underground, which tends to be where a lot of mainstream takes its cues from. I’d love a varied album from Adam, and, honestly, it’s smart considering how versatile he is and how people who enjoy him tend to like many a different thing about him.

  54. British bands have always produced multi-genre albums, American bands not so much. I think it may have something to do with th radio play is the US. Raio stations in the UK are not nearly so restrictive in terms of their playlists.

    A lot of American bands produce multi-genre albums but they are classified as one genre for marketing, distribution and branding – Nirvana, The Pixies, Jason Mraz, Green Day, Wilco, Foo Fighters, Calexico, The Roots, REM, Justin Timberlake, Bob Dylan, Elvis, Bruce Springsteen, Greatful Dead, The Neptunes, The Flaming Lips all have multi-genre albums.

    The Flaming Lips are a great example of classifying a multi-genre band — they are classified in many places as psychedelic alternative rock but they do Aternative rock, Indie rock, Folkatronic, Neo-psychedelia, Space rock, Experimental rock, and electro-pop. http://www.myspace.com/flaminglips

    In any case, with the rapid shift to digital music, the concept of an “album” is quickly becoming obsolete. It is also diminishing the power of US terrestrial radio and totally disrupting the retail channel (sales of hard media music down 38% YTD in the US B&M retail stores). My guess in that in 3 years the “album” will be in the same place we keep 8-track tapes and old 78’s.

  55. I can’t see them letting him do the multi genre thing with his album, seemingly with no reservations, if they weren’t going to market him overseas as well. The U.S. music industry likes to put things in boxes’ ¦ I’m taking this as hope that they will really position Adam for success in Europe and Asia as well, and put as much promotional firepower behind that as they’re going to do in the U.S., because he would fit in better there. With his Britishisms and all.

    I hoping the US Retailers put Adam’s album in a bulk-out or at least in the Top 10 “bin”.

    All joking aside, both Kris and Adam’s albums will probably be in the Top 20 albums so there won’t be any question where to put them in stores. And both albums will probable be classified as pop/rock. Even Daughtry is cross promoted as pop/rock.

  56. I am trying to keep my expectations low, but November is sooooooooo faaaaaaaar away! I got a new iPhone. I gots room. Where are the songs?

  57. jtoms
    Aug 17th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
    RCA/19 is throwing alot of kelly clarkson people adam’s way aren’t they? well at least it has all the makings of a solid pop album.

    Sunn Aug 17th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    I can’t get excited about a list of of professional collaborators who’s job it is to churn out pop hits.

    that’s pretty much describing 100% of idol albums produced under the management of 19 so far, though. the idols’ job is pretty much to be the mouthpiece for songs written and produced for them. sure, the head honchos will throw them a couple of co-songwriting bones now and then to make them feel involved, but at the end of the day, these albums will always be manufactured from a business pov, not an artistic one.

    if someone like kelly clarkson can sell 20 million albums worldwide and still have trouble with the label re artistic vision, it doesn’t bode well for future idols at all. thus, the catch-22 of idol fame.

    This worries me a little bit. I don’t like Kelly’s “hits”. They sound manufactured, not fresh and original. But I still can’t wait to see what will be on Adam’s album. :jittery_tb:

  58. See the way I look at it is this, I don’t expect to like every song on Adam’s album, but that pretty much describes every album for me, ever. Rare are the albums I like everything on and even than, there are songs I like better than others. But if Adam can have the songs I personally don’t like, be hits, than more power to him. That would be my ideal. Have a fair amount of songs I like on it, and the ones I don’t personally like, be popular with others.

    Oh and I liked Hit Me Baby One More Time. It’s pop dreck, knew it when it came out, had certain issues with the video (my ongoing sexualization in videos issue), but it’s a catchy pop song and was fun to dance to. Same with Toxic.

  59. Oh and I liked Hit Me Baby One More Time. It’s pop dreck, knew it when it came out, had certain issues with the video (my ongoing sexualization in videos issue), but it’s a catchy pop song and was fun to dance to. Same with Toxic.

    I loved that song. I like most of Britney’s hits. Not dreck at all to me, very well written and well crafted, with strong lyrics and a catchy tune.

    And my favorite song–if I had to choose one– isn’t Baby One More Time, but it is a pop/rock song, Christina Aguilera’s Fighter. And that song means something to me– even though Scott Storch doesn’t generally produce music that’s terribly meaningful.

  60. There is another consideration. If Adam only signed a 1 year contract, he may get a little more than average control because 19/RCA might want to keep him happy. If not, he could shop around if he feels mistreated.

  61. ‘I can see too many different styles being a problem and the audience may not connect well with it.’ 

    Adam from the get go, has always said that his album would have “something for everyone” on it. From what I have read (squillions – blush, blush) it will be very intentional that all tracks will not sound similar (yawn) and therefore will not put him in a pre-ordained genre “box”. God help record stores — ummmm… where do they actually put his CD when it will cross so many styles. Oh! that’s right – in the number ONE spot! Oh yeah!

    Also, Adam has stated on a number of occasions that he has already participated in some of the song-writing thus far. ONE of the reasons I admire him so much (IMO) is that time and time again we have seen him stay true to himself, regardless, and STAND UP for what he believes in and what he wants – his vision if you like (but always in such a courteous and polite way). After all his years of struggling to “make it” he wants this album BAD (as do we) – he is a perfectionist and his own worst critic I suspect, and my guess is that he won’t let anybody (regardless of who they are) stand in the way of him putting out the very best he can.

    *stamps elegant snakeskin booted foot* lol

  62. I’m echoing the desire for Matt Bellamy and Mark Ronson to work with Adam, along with Calvin Harris.

  63. catzmadam
    Aug 18th, 2009 at 2:46 am
    ‘I can see too many different styles being a problem and the audience may not connect well with it.’ 

    Adam from the get go, has always said that his album would have ‘something for everyone’  on it. From what I have read (squillions – blush, blush) it will be very intentional that all tracks will not sound similar (yawn) and therefore will not put him in a pre-ordained genre ‘box’ .

    I think it’s pretty clear that the CD will be primarily a dance-pop sound, based on the collaborators listed so far. By doing this as his first CD, Adam is closing off the possibility of EVER moving into rock music. There is no crossover in that direction; once you start in dance music you don’t get rock consideration, airplay, credibility, whatever.

    British bands have the possibility of doing multi-genre CDs because their radio stations are not formatted nearly as tightly as in the U.S. But once Clear Channel slots a performer into a genre, that is the only type of radio station on which they will ever get airplay.

  64. ONE of the reasons I admire him so much (IMO) is that time and time again we have seen him stay true to himself, regardless, and STAND UP for what he believes in and what he wants – his vision if you like (but always in such a courteous and polite way). After all his years of struggling to ‘make it’  he wants this album BAD (as do we) – he is a perfectionist and his own worst critic I suspect, and my guess is that he won’t let anybody (regardless of who they are) stand in the way of him putting out the very best he can.

    So you realize we hear this same statement every single year about every single finalist? Every.Single.One.

    Adam signed a contract. He can fight his label and 19, but in the end, they get what they want. He is no different from the rest of them. Compromises will be made.

    That said, I do think the labels and 19 have a history of at least trying to work with the Idols. If they see eye-to-eye with your vision fine, if they don’t, then they push their way. My guess is a lot of the contestants got something close to what they wanted in the end. You cannot convince me that Daughtry did not get pretty much the album he envisioned. He even fought them over what single to release first (INO as opposed to Home), and won. Carrie Underwood pushed to be a country artist as opposed to pop, and fortunately 19 backed her up, because they agreed with her vision. On the other hand, Blake Lewis got the album he wanted as well, but was made to record Break Anotha and make it his lead single. And we all know about Kelly’s battles. She is no pushover, but she doesn’t always win with her label. And she’s a hell of a lot more established than Adam.

    They are shelling out some big bucks for him to work with heavy hitters, so I’d be shocked if they didn’t put out what they consider to be strong pop hits with potential to cross over internationally. What those will sound like I don’t know, but when they are spending this much money, I know it won’t be entirely up to Adam.

  65. I don’t think Adam wanted to go after a true Rock market. Rock/pop or dance/rock, but not rock radio stations.

  66. Thanks, Jopinola! I LOVE it. (Gah! I give these kids on reality shows way too much credit. I should have known Marty got the version from somewhere.)

  67. Like the multiple meanings ascribed to the words “grunge,” “emo,” and the like, I’m not totally getting the use of the term multi-genre in many of these posts. Some of the “multi-genre” acts noted above have put out rock albums. Just because there are songs with varying tempo or beat doesn’t make an album multi-genre, does it?

    Notably, Green Day’s last two albums are rock operas. I don’t believe anyone disputes that, really. They’re making a musical out of American Idiot. :-)

    This is one of the reasons that, for me, trying to box music into genres, or even categorize songs/albums really has no meaning — other than for marketing purposes. Even then, crossover work is cross-marketed.

    Cohesiveness is another story altogether, imo, and it means less in “pop” type markets as opposed to “rock.” I do believe that rock albums will remain, because they do still sell. And, people do tend to have expectations of some level of continuity, be it theme, sound, voice, etc. Not so much with “pop.” And, to me, pop/rock can be tricky due to the widely varied expectations in the market.

    If Adam is attempting to tap a variety of markets with his multiple styles — and meet (follow? lead?) the evolving market — the effort may prove dicey, but he should go for it (as he obviously is!) I wish him well, and I believe he’ll be just fine. It seems to me that folks are embracing change with Adam, which considering how truly odd that tends to be in modern times (think health care reform :-)), I find it incredibly fun to watch!

  68. I just can’t wait for this album to come out. November can’t some soon enough. I have loved reading through everyone’s more music-industry informed comments.

    Much the rocker that I am, I got worried when I saw that his list of collaborators included so many pop-music hit makers. Then I remembered that Adam said after the Finale that he does not like to be told what to do and that 19E was indeed listening to what his vision is for the debut CD. I have to trust his vision.

  69. I can’t take credit for finding them. I got them from gossipcandy.com. Someone suggested they are the RCA publicity stills (not related to album cover.) He’s so photogenic, I have no doubt the album cover is going to end up being fabulous.

  70. This is one of the reasons that, for me, trying to box music into genres, or even categorize songs/albums really has no meaning ‘” other than for marketing purposes. Even then, crossover work is cross-marketed.

    AMEN! There are two labels I attach to any song. I like it, I don’t like it. Genre labelling is the musical equivilant of pissing in the wind.

  71. But is ‘baby one more time’  anyone’s favorite song?

    No, but I started liking it quite a bit after I heard Marty Casey sing it on Rock Star, lol. Seriously. Marty’s version is on my Ipod, in regular rotation. Never thought that would happen ….

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