Kris Allen, Adam Lambert and Allison Iraheta Together Again, Thanks to Ryan Seacrest

HOLY SHNAPS this better be in Los Angeles!!

I’m shocked Adam would do this.

I would be more excited about this if I thought Austin had a chance in hell of winning.

Could he be contractually obligated to? (I have no idea, just wondering because it seemed that they all wanted to started doing their own thing.)

Although I agree they need to move on with their separate careers, it’s been a common marketing approach to lump Idols together. Whatever gets them exposure to their NEW music is fine. I just hope they don’t have to do a bunch of covers like on the tour. I’d pay money to attend, but if it’s a free concert, even better. They were all great on the tour, so any live performance from them is good.

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Why are you shocked? Adam loves Allison and Kris, thinks they are mad talented and had a blast touring with them.

It’s a one-off concert…it’s certainly not going to harm any of their solo careers. I don’t understand why some people are upset about this.

I, for one, would be thrilled to go to this because I love all 3 of them and it should be a blast.

This is lame. Let them be their own artists now. They shouldn’t be a “packaged” deal! Blah. Anyways, its good for Allison. I think she will benefit the most.

I don’t understand why some people are upset about this.

I’m actually more annoyed than upset. Not everyone is into this Kradison/Kradam/ etc. stuff.

I love that picture – good choice MJ.

No one freaked out about the two Davids doing their joint concert over in the Phillipines…why is this any different?

This is totally lame. ONE city gets this, and everyone else gets duped into getting give marketing info. And Sadeo Turner made it sound like glittery info. Unless it’s something else, this is epic fail.

I’m shocked Adam would do this.

He wouldn’t have a choice if 19 wants him to do it, he’ll have to do it.

bringing over what I said in other thread as soon as I saw that voting scam:

I don’t think it’s going to be in NYC or LA. Too many people in those cities to skew the votes. Actually I think the city is already chosen and the voting is just for mailing list purposes.

No one freaked out about the two Davids doing their joint concert over in the Phillipines’ ¦why is this any different?

I think part of the reason why people are a bit disappointed is that Sadao Turner was tweeting about some big Adam news. And this is actually only one concert, not many people will be able to attend. So the expectations were for some different news.

I wonder what order they’ll be performing in? On the tour, many comments were made about the level of “energy” for each of them, and I agreed when I saw the concert. They need to mix it up so that “big arena show” doesn’t go before “acoustic and intimate.” (I love both types of music, btw, just saying that the order does matter in a performance.) Hope they are smart about how to arrange performances this time. The point is to showcase each of their talents to best advantage.

I wouldn’t mind some duets from them, maybe even a trio performance. That’s the only reason to do covers, but other than that, it had better be all about the new albums.

I doubt this is the big Adam news Ryan’s producer meant. It’s not 7 a.m. here yet. Didn’t they say 7:00 a.m. was when they’d have the big Adam news? It’s 6:52 a.m. in L.A. right now.

The thing I’m pissed about is that Kris’ album STILL isn’t up for the live stream!

I’m going if it’s in MA, NH, RI, CT, or NYC – places I can drive to, any other modes of transportation is resserved for Adam’s tour.

I don’t think it’s going to be in NYC or LA. Too many people in those cities to skew the votes. Actually I think the city is already chosen and the voting is just for mailing list purposes.
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Exactly, but I do think it’s a large city, like Chicago or San Francisco. It’s not going to be Manchester, NH, I guarantee you. And once again Sadeo Turner got Adam fans excited for nothing. He’s great about doing that (Adam Storm, anyone?). Good to know for the future.

don’t understand why some people are upset over this.

even it’s only in one city, we’ll have great videos of each one!! I’m thrilled to see that. I wish I could be there!

and why not consider this a celebration of their debut album resulting from their successful run in AI8? and since they are friends, i guess they are trilled to do this concert together!!

I don’t want this to happen at all – the 3 of them are now on there own and need to be seperated – this will just invite all the comparisons I thought were over after the tour was done.

Ok, now commenting on this thread. Yeah, I tend to agree that, as much as I love Kradison, I really don’t see as much good coming out of this. It will only benefit one city, as others have mentioned, so a very small amount of people will actually get to experience this.

Also, I tend to agree that they will all benefit more at this point by touring with people outside of AI to help expand their fanbases. Those of us who would have supported them all anyways are the only ones who would really be that interested in this. Eh. IDK. Also wanting more epic news at the moment. Like Adam touring with Lady Gaga

also regarding this concert, I think it’s great for Allison to get this exposure for her first album (as well as for Kris and Adam but i still think especially for her since she has not been much out there yet)

Always intended to see Adam and Kris when they toured, so this is more than okay with me. Allison is extremely talented and would enjoy seeing her with the other two, just not on her own. See this as benefitting three distinctly different emerging artists. A venue anywhere in the northeast, especially metro NY, would be just fine.

not sure how i feel about this yet. ESPECIALLY if this is the surprise that was promised for adam fans.

BUT… mgk, ive noticed quite a few texans on this board (you, Dallas, TXArchitect, austinmidwife, midwifespal, me)… i bet if we pooled our efforts for one of the bigger cities, we might have a shot (i vote for dallas, it’s closer to oklahoma )

And once again Sadeo Turner got Adam fans excited for nothing.

Yes, this! I’m thinking of unfollowing him. If something breaks, I’m sure I’ll see a tweet fly by.

No one freaked out about the two Davids doing their joint concert over in the Phillipines’ ¦why is this any different?

Well maybe a little…..

I was never a Kradison……so I am also not getting upset about it. I hope that everyone puts on a kick ass show and has fun. If it’s in NY, NJ, or even PA I might consider it myself, something to break the monotony that time of year can bring.

Its doesn’t seem to be about record sales or new audiences. This is about radio promo for the 3 of them, it looks like.

Plus this is not all the promo any of them will be doing in February. In fact, this probably is happening while one or all of them are starting/about to start tours. Not to mention all the TV appearances, Jingle balls, radio interviews, etc.

Its just ONE show. ONE day out of their separate busy schedules. For a big radio show. So, I don’t see how any of them don’t benefit.

Adam doesn’t need them professionally.

Well, I’m going to have to put on my fire proof clothes now. LOL. Here it goes:

Adam has not broken away from idol yet to the point he can turn up his nose at anybody. None of them have. He has media hype but that has not translated to sales out the bubble. If a huge syndicated show wants all 3 of them to show up for some promo, Adam needs to do it and shut up about it.

I am now ready to be flamed.

I’m going if it’s in MA, NH, RI, CT, or NYC ‘“ places I can drive to, any other modes of transportation is reserved for Adam’s tour.

squirrely, yes, but I don’t think it will happen this time (plus, of course, it’s not an Adam concert). I’ll save my money for that, unless this happens nearby Boston. (I mean, I’ll try to win–right now–but I’m not holding my breath). And I feel like we were duped.

Adam has not broken away from idol yet to the point he can turn up his nose at anybody. None of them have. He has media hype but that has not translated to sales out the bubble. If a huge sydicated show wants all 3 of them to show up form some promo, Adam needs to do it and shut up about it.

Huh? It’s the fans turning their noses up at this, we have no idea how Adam feels about it. For all we know, Adam may be more than happy to perform with his friends again.

Anyways, its good for Allison. I think she will benefit the most.

I think it is good for all of them. None of them have enough stuff yet to do a tour on their own, unless, of course, they do covers. And then, they will be criticized for still being in Idol mode (i.e., doing covers).
I think its a reasonable step into their careers: first they were in the show; then the Idol tour with 9 other people, all doing covers; now a concert with 2 of the best finalists, all doing (I assume) their own stuff.
Also, in a way, they will all “headline”, as opposed to being the warmup for someone else.
Also, it helps them develop their stage skills (although, admittedly, Adam does not seem to need much more practice).
Also, for all Adam superfans, I would agree he has the potential to be the biggest star out of S8, but it is still potential. At this point I don’t think Adam sees Kris and Allison as beneath him, nor should he.

Huh? It’s the fans turning their noses up at this, we have no idea how Adam feels about it. For all we know, Adam may be more than happy to perform with his friends again.

I am not saying Adam has a problem with it. That post IS directed at some of his fans who think he doesn’t “need” to do promo with the other idols. What I am saying is that he “needs” to do promo for Ryan Seacrest’s show, however Ryan Seacrest wants the promo.

Adam has not broken away from idol yet to the point he can turn up his nose at anybody. None of them have. He has media hype but that has not translated to sales out the bubble. If a huge syndicated show wants all 3 of them to show up for some promo, Adam needs to do it and shut up about it.

I am now ready to be flamed.

Nah no flames – but Adam’s not complaining about it, he may have suggested it for all we know.

No excitement here. First, it would be in the US and not Adam alone. I will go to Adam ´s solo concert no matter where. But I do not want to listen to Kris (can ´t stand his voice and gestures), and Allison ´s poppy songs.

No hate here, just not my musical taste.

Waiting for Nov. 23.

This is funny….the majority of complaints are from Adam fans. I’ll take what I can get.

Carrie still contributes her success to AI. Adam will never be able to shed the AI label, but I don’t think he cares.

I think it is good for all of them. None of them have enough stuff yet to do a tour on their own, unless, of course, they do covers.

Adam and Kris have albums.

Why are you shocked? Adam loves Allison and Kris, thinks they are mad talented and had a blast touring with them.

Just for the record, I’m neither upset nor angry. I just can’t understand why, after the *huge* roll-out he’s received, Adam would want to continue with the Idol connection, especially a season-specific one. I hadn’t thought about the fact that Adam may be contractually bound to perform again under the Idol umbrella, but it’s not like he’s Jive artist. Why not include Danny in the mix if it’s a 19 thing?

The David and David thing didn’t particularly bother me because it wasn’t done here in the U.S. and both had successful solo tours underway, and it seemed the least the two could do to thank their fans in the Philippines, who were huge supporters of both artists but didn’t get to see the Idol tour.

And, frankly, not to be controversial, but having Kris, Adam and Allison do a promotional event together–and that’s what this is–suggests that none of the three has the numbers to stand on their own yet.

Adam has not broken away from idol yet to the point he can turn up his nose at anybody. None of them have. He has media hype but that has not translated to sales out the bubble. If a huge syndicated show wants all 3 of them to show up for some promo, Adam needs to do it and shut up about it.

I am now ready to be flamed.

Not from me. I agree with every word your wrote. I knew what the reaction would be here as soon as I heard the news. This is a promo being run by a popular radio show in the second biggest market in the U.S and syndicated elsewhere. It seems like a fun show and a great promotion. I am going to assume that Ryan would at least occasionally play their songs to promote the concert/contest.

This is funny’ ¦.the majority of complaints are from Adam fans. I’ll take what I can get.

Carrie still contributes her success to AI. Adam will never be able to shed the AI label, but I don’t think he cares

He doesn’t. Adam has not tried to break away from AI – he talks positively about AI when asked. He even tweeted about how much he missed his AI family not to long ago. I’m sure he’s looking forward to this – and just performing in general. I think the disappointment is because we were promised Adam news, not AI news. This is good but I would have loved to hear tour dates.

Nah no flames ‘“ but Adam’s not complaining about it, he may have suggested it for all we know.

I didn’t mean to imply that he was. Sorry, I didn’t realize to wording would be read that way. See my post to jill16 above.

twinkle, I noticed that Houston is in 6th place at the moment, but I already cast a vote for Austin, and I don’t think I can change it. Drat.

Other than the fact that I don’t really think that a city close to me will win, I don’t see how this is a bad thing. Ryan will be chatting about this and giving them all extra exposure, and he might even give them some courtesy spins. Some lucky fans will even get to attend a free concert.

Ugghh….please let the idol bubble burst. Please let the idols carve their own path. I too am so over Kradison.

As long as this is something Kris, Allison and Adam want to do this is fine. I don’t think most Kris and Allison fans are that into Adam though, and if they are not by now he won’t win them over. Why not include Danny too, if you are going to do these three. It’s not like Adam is any less polarizing. Kris is already doing lots of mini concerts. I am just hoping Adam and Allison start doing some too.

ok, ive thought about it… and im all about the extra promo this will get adam. ryan’s show gets beamed all over the country, so if this increases the number of times he says adam’s name on the radio and potentially the number of times he plays his songs… i’ll take it.

my only complaints (aside from getting my hopes up that it was adam-specific news) is not necessarily in keeping adam connected to AI, it is keeping adam connected to other contestants on AI which only leads to fan wars and constant comparisons in the media.

mgk – was able to click on Dallas after i had already clicked on OKC… i think you can vote multiple times.

lol @ jill16! No worries, we’ve all been there. **leaves before mj gets mad at me too** LOL

This three people represent more than just the top three ( o yes they are !!) but a lot more than that. Hope and love and equality and friendship etc. If Kradison can get along with each other i don’t understand why their fans can’t ?

I never put a lot of thought into it, but these three truly represent a vision of America. The fact they get along should not be a surprise, but affirmation that things like race, gender, sexual orientation, faith, ethnicity, etc., should not be roadblocks to achieving your dreams.

If all 3 are being managed by 19M then don’t be surprised to see all 3 on that godawful Fox New Years Eve special, just like everyone managed by 19 has done every year. This is shades of the GMA thing this past summer which I’m virtually positive was 19′s doing. Since Kris mentioned his tour is starting in February maybe touring will being for Allison and Adam as well and then they can start their solo journeys.

This is funny’ ¦.the majority of complaints are from Adam fans. I’ll take what I can get.

I’m an Adam fan and I am thrilled. It means Adam live, for me to see and go to. Plus it’s only 3 artists so we’re probably talking about 45 minutes of just Adam. Holy Cow!
I just want to know which city and when so I can get my ticket and get a good price on airfare. With 5 sellouts in the Northeast for the AI tour, I’ll put my bets on sopmewhere there. New England loves their Idols!
Then they can go on thier individual tours and I can see Adam in L.A.!

ETA: This will most likely get the three of them lots of play on Ryan’s and all KIIS stations! That is a very good thing!

From the contest website:

4 people are demanding Adam, Kris & Allison in Philadelphia metro area

Oh, Lord, that doesn’t bode well for anybody!

Have either Kris or Allison tweeted about Adam’s FYE? If so, I have missed it.

No, neither of them have made one comment about FYE while Adam pimped their singles both on Twitter and in interviews.

Also, if you look at Amazon presales and go to the “people who bought this title also bought these” section you’ll notice on Adam’s page Kris and Allison are listed first and second while on Kris and Allison’s Adam isn’t even on the first page of albums that their fans bought.

Say whatever you want but the reality is Adam fans have shown far more support for Allison and Kris than their fans have shown for him. It might be insecurity or whatever and that’s understandable but that’s how it’s been.

This concert seems like a fun idea but IMO it will only bring out more hurt feelings if the reviews favor Adam over the other two like they did all summer.

I went through the full list of cities with most of my concentration being on CA and PA cities since I am somewhat bi-coastal. I LOL when I saw one rural PA ‘city’ (it’s not) listed. They have a population of 1600 and I think children under the age of 10 make up the majority. I have never seen so many twins and triplets as when I attended a Halloween parade there last year.

It appears to be one vote per email address. I’m sure I’m not alone in having more than one … though I only voted once.

Why not include Danny in the mix if it’s a 19 thing?

Danny’s not managed by 19. MJ posted an article back on 10/23/2009.

Danny Gokey, who placed third on last season’s American Idol, has signed with Nashville-based RLM/Mission Management.

‘As a huge fan of American Idol, I couldn’t be more excited,’  remarked RLM/Mission Management’s Tracy McGlocklin. ‘Danny has an amazing gift and Rendy and I feel very blessed to have the opportunity to help guide his career.’ 

‘This is our first opportunity as a management team to work with the 19/RCA staff,’  said Rendy Lovelady. ‘In our initial meetings, we have been extremely impressed with their vision and passion for Danny as an artist.’ 

He’s licensed through 19R, but not managed by them. I imagine that’s why he’s not included.

I’d like to know why Sadao Turner only tweeted about Adam. No one would be this riled up if he didn’t mislead us. If you tell Adam fans there is going to be big Adam news did you think we were going to be excited about an Idol tour redux?

What’s second prize? Ice picks through both ear drums?

Such is life in the world of Clear Channel Communications payola, I suppose.

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I think it is good for all of them. None of them have enough stuff yet to do a tour on their own, unless, of course, they do covers.

Adam and Kris have albums.

All of them have albums, but one album a good tour does not make. In addition to the lack of music, it is not clear of all of their new songs will make for a good concert. Even “hits” may not good “concert” songs (as we saw with some of the choices the idols made for the tour; not to mention NoBo). The three of them should be able to put a full show of new music by picking the best from their albums.

I’d like to know why Sadao Turner only tweeted about Adam. No one would be this riled up if he didn’t mislead us. If you tell Adam fans there is going to be big Adam news did you think we were going to be excited about an Idol tour redux?

THIS.

If many Adam fans (myself included) are unhappy about all this, how do Kris fans feel?

Do you think it’s a good move for Kris, or one he’s simply obligated to do but you’re fine with, or one you wish he didn’t have to do?

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I’d like to know why Sadao Turner only tweeted about Adam.

He, like every other media outlet uses Adam to generate interest. Just like this concert… honestly, if it didn’t include Adam do you think they would get the response they are hoping for? I don’t and I think they know it.

If they had a vote to “not do this event”, I think it would win. I am a fan of all three but I don’t want to see this. I also can’t wee what good will come of it.

Who closes the show? Why is Adam listed first? How many minutes will each one perform (time to get out the stop watches)?

The is no way to make fans happy with this one. No way at all.

Well, I’m going to have to put on my fire proof clothes now. Adam has not broken away from idol yet to the point he can turn up his nose at anybody. None of them have.

Tinawina, please accept my donation of fire retardant gear. But I agree ‘“ ‘none of them have.’  IMO Adam is the most exciting talent to show up in decades, but talent and charisma is not enough. He’s knows that. He’s smart and I have confidence is his strategy and choices.

I went to three AI shows this summer to see Adam, but surprise, surprise I liked other performers, too. My musical sensibilities are broad enough to embrace a diversity of styles and a collection of hundreds of reel to reel tapes, cassettes, vinyl records and CDs are testament to that.

Somehow missed the Idol handbook stipulation that prohibits enjoying and supporting more than one Idol at a time.

I am not saying Adam has a problem with it. That post IS directed at some of his fans who think he doesn’t ‘need’  to do promo with the other idols. What I am saying is that he ‘needs’  to do promo for Ryan Seacrest’s show, however Ryan Seacrest wants the promo.

I do not agree with this — I think both Kris and Adam need to move away from Idol and from Kradam. And it is more important for Adam because of his mucisal genres.

The only ones who gain from this are Allison, 19 and Ryan.

Also, Allison did tweet about FYE — Kris did not. Which I still do not understand.

This doesn’t excite me at all. I was so bored with the tour by Sept. Of course, by February it might seem fun again. Or, maybe if they waited a year.

And I’ll be honest. I like Kris and Allison. I will probably buy both of their CDs. But, I have no desire to see them live. It is just nothing that excites me at this point. I am sure others feel differently.

It is funny, they are going to squeeze every drop they can get out of season 8 fans.

Also, if you look at Amazon presales and go to the ‘people who bought this title also bought these’  section you’ll notice on Adam’s page Kris and Allison are listed first and second while on Kris and Allison’s Adam isn’t even on the first page of albums that their fans bought.

I have noticed that for awhile and it sucks.

Also, Allison did tweet about FYE ‘” Kris did not. Which I still do not understand.

I’ve been watching for one, Q3. I’m 99% sure she hasn’t.

— you ought to see the fanwarring on Twitter (plus now someone is pointing to your site, mj, and accusing Adam fans of being overly negative and nasty).

The big problem with this is that Ryan teased it last week as “big Adam news about his upcoming tour” and Sadao [Ryan's online producer] tweeted this yesterday:

SadaoTurner Hey @ AdamLambert fans’ ¦the surprise I promised u months ago will be revealed tomorrow. Its big. No glitter necessary.
11/08/09 around 8:00PM ET from UberTwitter

So disappoint from Adam fans is really understandable. Because this is not big “Adam news”.

Anyway, by the time this happens in February, it think that the whole AI8 competition will be a faded memory. And all three will be well into their post-Idol careers. All I can say is “whatever…”

ETA: the Alli tweet was hard to decipher — but it’s there.

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11/09/2009 at 10:50 am

Also, Allison did tweet about FYE ‘” Kris did not. Which I still do not understand.

I actually don’t think Adam has any problem with it, thus no need for him to “shut up”. Adam’s been nothing but gracious about Kradison, even mentioning and complimenting Kris in his segment on Oprah. Also, Adam is constantly praising American Idol and what it did for him in his career and how the show helped him to make his dreams come true. He’s not complained about his relationship with 19 or his label, so I don’t get where the original post came from.

As far as the tweets, Allison didn’t tweet about it, she was asked in a twitter party if she had heard it and complimented the single. I think that’s a bit different than what Adam did twice for both Kris and Allison’s singles. But really, it doesn’t matter. Adam is always complimentary and gracious towards those he works with in a very public way, I’m sure he does it because he wants to not because he expects anything in return. He seems like a “throw positive into the universe” kind of guy, which I love. Others might be supportive in a more private way, it’s all good.

This concert seems like a fun idea but IMO it will only bring out more hurt feelings if the reviews favor Adam over the other two like they did all summer.
I thought about this too. This is why they need to be careful about the arrangement of the performances. At the concert, imho, Kris was not shown to best advantage (not a comment about Kris, ANYONE might have difficulty) by going after Adam’s huge crowd-pleasing set. Looking at the banner for the contest, it looks like Adam is the “headliner” but that may have been unintentional. Sure, I’m an Adam-fan, but I like Allison and Kris and wouldn’t want their PR to be hurt by this concert. I think all three can benefit–if the concert is handled the right way.

If it’s near me, I’ll go if I can, though to mainly see Adam. Like someone else said, I’ll take what I can get as far as seeing him perform.

Isn’t Kris going to have his own tour starting in Feb?

if it didn’t include Adam do you think they would get the response they are hoping for?

Adam wasn’t “included” he was specifically and individually mentioned. That is the point. The tweet was misleading. Sadao could have said something like “Good news for Adam, Kris and Allison fans” and we would have been a helluva lot more receptive instead of annoyed.

I do not agree with this ‘” I think both Kris and Adam need to move away from Idol and from Kradam. And it is more important for Adam because of his mucisal genres.

The only ones who gain from this are Allison, 19 and Ryan.

Well, I guess we are going to have to disagree on that one. I just don’t see how doing a favor for a huge syndicated rhythmic-leaning pop show is a BAD thing. Because it will piss off a tiny group of internet fans? They already have those people.

Allison and Adam are both pop. So how is his genre different in this context?

Also, this is one day out of what will be many, many solo promo dates. So at one point, they will stop and do a show together. They go back to their separate lives. Not the end of the world IMO.

Also it is hard to tell who has the most to gain (by that, I’m assuming you mean who has the smallest hit and the least fans) until February. We have no idea who will be doing well and who won’t in February. No counting those chickens before they hatch! LOL.

Well I am excited. I think Arkansas needs to get busy and get their votes in like they did during the season and maybe the concert will be in Little Rock, Arkansas. That will be close enough for me to go.

I don’t see this as a continuation of Idol but the next step being in the 19 family. It seems no matter what we are given people are unhappy. As Adam would say it’s not that deep people, go with it and enjoy.

Did this SadaoTurner guy tweet about 2012 roadblock? I’ll take any tweet from him with a giant grain of salt.

It’s silly and probably petty to keep track

You said it not me. LOL. Not that I was thinking it or anything. I’m already in trouble enough in this thread. Heh.

Just to clarify, I don’t think people are actually upset about this—it’s not a bad thing. But, as an Adam fan who is getting impatient, the idea of a Kradison concert in Feb., that will probably be nowhere close to me anyway, isn’t too exciting.

Surprise… the first city I see when I go to Ryan’s website is SANTO DOMINGO.

Like there’s is chance in hell they would be coming here.

They just got my country from my IP. So, I have to agree it’s all set in stone already.

The contest is just a marketing gimmick.

I guess I’ll have to keep waiting for the real Adam’s concerts (the only ones I’m interested in). I’ll take vacation time to fly to THAT!!!

None of them tweeted of their own accord – it was only when asked, and what are going to say ‘it sucks’. But whatever, I’m just protective of Adam and sometimes I feel like he’s still that little outsider and I want to slap people for not wanting to be his friend

Anyway, by the time this happens in February, it think that the whole AI8 competition will be a faded memory. And all three will be well into their post-Idol careers.

The thing is some of them might not have good careers. Of course, all of them are talented and very famous at the moment, but next season of Idol is around the corner – and maybe those three will be forgotten in year or two. Yes, Adam is the most famous, talk-about and hyped, but it still don’t guarantee great career in the future. So maybe it’s last chance to see some of them in big concert, while they are on the top of the world. It’s pleasure for fans as well to hear their new songs – including fans who are not as invested as people on this board. And yes, great promotion on big radio show from famous radio personality.
To be honest, I don’t see how can anyone see something bad in this idea. As for wars between fans and bitter feelings – well, just be happy for your favorite, for his friends and don’t be bitter.

A free concert featuring Adam and Allison and Kris? I’m not sure why peeps are UPSET by this, but to each his own. Of course as an Adam and Allison fan I would be most excited to see those two. But Kris is all right, and in my experience, lots of artists are better live than in the studio anyway.

Being that I am in Central Texas, it is unlikely the concert will be in my area, but I voted anyway. Why not? It’s a FREE concert featuring my favorite singer! And he loves his friends so I can’t imagine he’s upset by this. Adam oozes positivity, so I am following suit.

This is just another chance to promote his music and himself as the musical genius that he is. It’s a chance for all three of them to get out there and play live and increase visibility through Ryan Seacrest, who is huge.

I’m sure there will be solo opportunities soon enough for Adam Lambert. I am not worried about his future as a recording artist and after listening to Allison’s single, I’m pretty sure she’s going to do well too. And while Kris’ stuff is just OK for me, he’s got fans, people love him and he’s likely going to have a nice musical career as well. So why the freak out people? They came out of Idol, no getting around that, and they are friends. Nothing wrong with some promo and some free music.

As far as the tweeting goes, Kris may have spoken to Adam directly or sent him a direct message. All communication does not have to be for the public viewing. I think it was in the Lindsey Parker interview that he was asked about the other idols singles. He said he loved Allison’s and he indirectly answered on Adam’s (TFM, i think) becasue he said Adam already knew how he felt about it.

Squirrely
11/09/2009 at 11:12 am
None of them tweeted of their own accord ‘“ it was only when asked, and what are going to say ‘it sucks’. But whatever, I’m just protective of Adam and sometimes I feel like he’s still that little outsider and I want to slap people for not wanting to be his friend

I completely understand.

Twitter is the devil! While I appreciate that Adam is always supporting and promoting his friends (that is practically all he tweets about,lol–and not just the AI people, but his huge circle of Hollywood friends), I think he is unusual in that respect. The Idols shouldn’t have to be each other’s PR people. The way Adam’s single rolled-out, Kris may not even be aware that it’s available.

The tweet was misleading. Sadao could have said something like ‘Good news for Adam, Kris and Allison fans’  and we would have been a helluva lot more receptive instead of annoyed.

This is how I feel. This isn’t *big* Adam news so it was just misleading and disappointing.

Yikes… I don’t want them to tour together again.. because press will continue to compare them

Allison has the least to gain from this. She already got the most she could get out of AI viewers and the fact that she made 4th in an competition with the likes of Danny and Kris and to a certain extent Adam, proves AI isn’t her crowd, and yet impresive in and of it self. Allison is hardcore and her future fans are not going to be in this concert. Judging by the collaborators in “Just like Me,” all indicates that rock is at the core, therefore Alli should be touring with Green Day, Weezer etc. She has a killer band and should be touring in rock festivals like Rock Am Ring, Pukkelpop. Honestly I was lucky to have discovered her if I didn’t tune in by chance when she was singing Give in to Me.

Besides, everybody at this concert will be all over Adam & Kris and Alli will not get her due because the reasons above.
Don’t do it Alli, you deserve better.

I actually don’t think Adam has any problem with it, thus no need for him to ‘shut up’ . Adam’s been nothing but gracious about Kradison, even mentioning and complimenting Kris in his segment on Oprah. Also, Adam is constantly praising American Idol and what it did for him in his career and how the show helped him to make his dreams come true.

I saw Carrie Underwood on the VH1 Top 20 show this past weekend and she was very gracious in mentioning Idol more than once in her remarks to the host of the show. I think the first season of Idol Kelly and Justin got snubbed a bit at events, but that is over. You see top tier artists on Idol, it gives them a boost (more publicity = more sales) and they aren’t *ashamed* to be on Idol. I don’t think one Kradison appearance in one city is going to tarnish anyone’s image or future career.

Listening to Seacrest promote the heck out of the Adam-Kris-Allison (the order he used) show/contest and now he’s playing FYE. See only positive outcome for all three coming out of this.

New pic of Adam. Hope it can lighten up some disappointed heart

http://i36.tinypic.com/5u36h4.jpg

Judging by the collaborators in ‘Just like Me,’  all indicates that rock is at the core, therefore Alli should be touring with Green Day, Weezer etc. She has a killer band and should be touring in rock festivals like Rock Am Ring, Pukkelpop.

I haven’t heard her album yet, I don’t think anyone has. But do you think that FIBOU would go over at rock festivals? That’s the song chosen to be her first exposure to the public, to exemplify her sound. It doesn’t seem, based on the first single, that Jive plans to emphasize the “rock” side of Allison yet. I wish they would, but I really think that will come in her future albums when she’s a little older.

Listening to Seacrest promote the heck out of the Adam-Kris-Allison (the order he used) show/contest and now he’s playing FYE. See only positive outcome for all three coming out of this.

Yup, that’s what I figured. This will really promote radio play for all three of them.

GaGaGlambert
11/09/2009 at 11:25 am
Listening to Seacrest promote the heck out of the Adam-Kris-Allison (the order he used) show/contest and now he’s playing FYE. See only positive outcome for all three coming out of this.

Cool, I don’t see anything wrong with it. One last hurrah for the fans, it’s in February well after their albums are out and a “free” concert right now, with the economy the way it is, nothing wrong with that!

Keep in mind besides being a KISS (Ryan?) promotional gig, marketing research, whatever … it’s also the kickoff of the new AI season. It all makes sense to me.

To be honest, I didn’t go to any of the AI tour shows nor was I interested in going. But had it been just these 3 I may have.

It’s ONE concert in ONE city.

New pic of Adam. Hope it can lighten up some disappointed heart

http://i36.tinypic.com/5u36h4.jpg

such a cutie *rawr*

As far as the tweets, Allison didn’t tweet about it, she was asked in a twitter party if she had heard it and complimented the single. I think that’s a bit different than what Adam did twice for both Kris and Allison’s singles. But really, it doesn’t matter. Adam is always complimentary and gracious towards those he works with in a very public way, I’m sure he does it because he wants to not because he expects anything in return. He seems like a ‘throw positive into the universe’  kind of guy, which I love. Others might be supportive in a more private way, it’s all good.

I have always heard that “theater kids” are extremely supportive of one another, of course this may be Adam’s natural persona but it was most definitely nurtured by his theater background. Growing up in theatrical circles promotes teamwork and by now it is ingrained in Adam.

CindyM, go look at the producers for the album and also check out Holiday by Dilana on utube, shell be doing that.

We know that “payola”(sp) is very, very, illegal and nobody does this anymore. Could this concert be one of those non-payola gigs?

I have always heard that ‘theater kids’  are extremely supportive of one another, of course this may be Adam’s natural persona but it was most definitely nurtured by his theater background. Growing up in theatrical circles promotes teamwork and by now it is ingrained in Adam.

First thing you learn: A theatrical show is only as good as its weakest link. Everyone is important — that includes, not only the cast and/or orchestra but the author, director, stage, sound, light and front/back of house crews as well.

That, and everbody else in school thinks you’re a geek.

A body has to have somebody else to talk to…

I quoted myself. How’d the hell did I do that? FAIL.

We know that ‘payola’ (sp) is very, very, illegal and nobody does this anymore. Could this concert be one of those non-payola gigs?

I wondered that as well. I just feel duped by Sadeo as an Adam fan, am pretty sure the city has already been pre-determined (and you CAN vote more than once, BTW), and was concerned about fan-warring. But if it’s good for all of them so be it. Just play the singles and promote Adam, Kris, and Allison, Ryan; that’s my primary concern. I won’t be going to the concert, anyway, I’m sure.

Yes, more Adam pics, please.

I am fine with this concert. Any chance to see Adam live possibly is fine by me.
GaGaGlambert- Did Ryan really play FYE again?

I saw a tweet go by that Perez is making fun of Adam’s position on the charts.

I saw a tweet go by that Perez is making fun of Adam’s position on the charts.

Well he should tweet a link for his followers to buy it.

Yep, Perez is trying to label Adam’s single “a failure.” I take issue with that. When an artist is just staring out, we can’t expect a brand-new single to explode the very first week it comes out. Perez luuuvs Lady Gaga, and it took her weeks and weeks as a new artist to develop the number one singles. She “simmered” her way to the top. People had to find out about her. I expect the same with Adam for anyone outside the Idol bubble. Give the singe time to get on the radio. Geez.

IMO I think this was a big trade off for RS Radio show… Adam I will promote your single if you do this Promo concert… So the big winner is Ryan(all the hits and marking info)… but I prefer to see it in a positive light… a win for all… because any exposure is good when you are just getting your first albums out no matter where it comes from, and no worries Adam will shine,front and center…Adamgasm’s for all…LOL

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wadamlover
11/09/2009 at 11:59 am
IMO I think this was a big trade off for RS Radio show’ ¦ Adam I will promote your single if you do this Promo concert’ ¦ So the big winner is Ryan(all the hits and marking info)’ ¦

Yep, I see this concert as the equivalent of a “jingle ball”. It’s all good for the fans and for the artists. I doubt it will be in Albuquerque, though, so boooo for me!

Adam’s positive tweeting of his fellow idols IS part of his marketing angle. He’s positioning himself as the Tony Robbins of the rock/pop world, IMO, LOL. In 40 yrs of the rock era, which other successful rock artist has as high a percentage of smiling photos as Adam, or as many articulate/intelligent/thoughtful interviews (written & video) as him? IMO it is who he is, he’s not faking it, but his publicists sure are milking that side of him for all it’s worth. It fits in well with the family-friendly wholesome AI aesthetic. And it works for a lot of ppl, myself included, who laugh at and get sick of the whole pouting i-could-give-a-s**t-but-pls-buy-my-record irony of the rock gods.

aa618892 11/09/2009 at 11:51 am
I am fine with this concert. Any chance to see Adam live possibly is fine by me.
GaGaGlambert- Did Ryan really play FYE again?

aa618892, I am listening to Ryan on the Internet. He played FYE immediately after he hyped the contest. I posted just as the song was ending @11:25 am eastern time.

Squirrely
11/09/2009 at 11:55 am
I saw a tweet go by that Perez is making fun of Adam’s position on the charts.

Well he should tweet a link for his followers to buy it.

He posted the link in his website to go and listen so that ´s good promo, he said he really likes it and he ´s asking people why isn ´t selling more.

I personally find it a little disappointing that what was hyped as “Adam” news, was in fact Kradison news (but would not tweet nasty comments to anyone about it). Nothing against the other two really I just really want some good strong Adam promo since things have seemed so quiet in recent days.

I think this concert could be fun, and could definitely give a bit of a boost to CD sales in February. Not a cat’s chance that London will win but I’ll be excited to see the inevitable YT vids after the show.

But I am pretty concerned about how exactly the event will be put together. Realistically, Kris as the AI8 winner will be billed as such and has the right to end the show. I think Kris fans would expect this and it would be fitting. However, reviews of the summer tour spoke of the difference in energy of the two performers and I don’t see how this will really change by February. I admit I am biased here but in terms of the final number I could see a huge case being made for Adam ending the show with a big, powerful, bombastic number, ending the night with a bang. How exactly would that go down with the Kris fans? I’m just speculating here so please don’t throw stones or think I am starting fanwars or putting words in people’s mouths! I don’t want to get deleted, I am just putting my point of view across. Namely, while this concert could be fun, I think there is potential for it to simply reignite a lot of bitterness among one fan base or another.

So much for being excited about a big Adam announcement. I don’t think I will believe Sadao again. He could have been more honest about it and mentioned all three names instead of misleading the Adam fans.

As far as idols calling or texting in private about their singles… No, that doesn’t fly. It is all about support and promotion. But then again, not everyone is like Adam. He is supportive to his long-time friends as well as his new AI friends. From reading the tweets of his pre-idol friends, they seem very supportive of Adam as well.

Seacrest is promoting the Kradison concert again.

I would def. not bother to vote, the concert will be in Conway AK, that is my bet. Though really it should be in NY is there an city that’s got more peeps than us. But it will be Conway or some hick place in AK. It won’t be in NYC.

AK isn’t Arkansas is it? I bet it was Alaska. See that’s how freaking important AS? is to the rest of the country!

But it will be Conway or some hick place in AK. It won’t be in NYC.

Alaska?! I hope not! Arkansas is AR.

I don’t care where the concert is, but if it is close to me, I am definately NOT GOING TO MISS IT!. I am a total Adam fan and would not miss an opportunity to see him sing the freakin phone book, but I also love me some Kradison. I always thought it was great that the three hooked onto each other the way they did (Adam facilitated that, I just know it). I feel it is going to be very comforting for each of them to have that bond, that connection to bouy them when the pressure hits. So, yes to Kradison one more time, please. It’s genuine, it’s real and I Love it!!!!

I saw a tweet go by that Perez is making fun of Adam’s position on the charts.

Perez is the biggest jerk in Hollywood.

My question is how long does this promo go on. I didn’t see a time frame for the voting.

I can see more wars coming on when and if the order of preforming is announced. AI is over and this is not about the winner and others, it is about three young and talented artist kicking off their careers with their friends. Everyone relax, eat a cookie and take a nap. All will be good in the end.

So was Allison a last minute add to this concert?? If so, why?

The contest rules don’t even mention her.

HOW TO ENTER/VOTE: Submit your entry/vote by visiting http://www.RyanSeacrest.com during the Promotion
Period and follow the Sweepstakes link to complete all required information in the online entry form as well as
request a concert featuring Kris Allen and Adam Lambert to perform in your town (a ‘Vote’ ).

4. TOWN SELECTION: During the Promotion Period, the town that receives the highest number of zip code Votes
within a fifty (50) mile radius, as determined by the Administrator, will be deemed the winning town (the ‘Town’ )
and will receive a concert featuring Adam Lambert and Kris Allen of American Idol. In the event of a tie during the
Town selection, the Administrator shall conduct a random drawing to determine the Town from such tied Votes. All
decisions of the Sponsor and Administrator are final. Certain venue restrictions, space availability, and blackout dates
may apply.

http://static.eventful.com/store/competitions/ryanrockmytown2009/ryanrockmytown2009_rules.pdf

Adam Lambert’s debut single, For Your Entertainment, hasn’t been selling very well on iTunes’ ¦AT ALL!

Maybe people are buying it through the AO site. I know I did.. Actually, I bought the collector’s album and got the single for free. They seem to be pushing the album instead.

And it works for a lot of ppl, myself included, who laugh at and get sick of the whole pouting i-could-give-a-s**t-but-pls-buy-my-record irony of the rock gods.

LOL I can clearly picture Adam’s expression to go with this thought…

It will be in Milwaukee, just to be ironic.

I saw a tweet go by that Perez is making fun of Adam’s position on the charts

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when was this? i didn’t see it

I’m rooting for Honolulu! The islands hardly ever get AI concerts and they are part of the US too! Come on, Adamaloha, get it organized!

P.S. The idols would enjoy it, too~!

There is no artist with a desire to be a Worldwide Pop Star who would be anything other than ecstatic to have Ryan Seacrest and his radio network invested in spinning and promoting their debut single. Continually. For months.

Adam wants to be worldwide Pop Star. Kris and Allison seemed to have interests in that direction. Ask any of the other AI contestants over the past 8 seasons, not to mention, the 10,000 artists selling less than 10K records each in a tumbling music industry how they’d feel about this kind of radio exposure. Real World: If millions of would-be record buyers are involved, you, gratefully, go to the opening of an envelope.

Ryan wants to be A Really Big Hollywood TV Producer. The name of the event is “Ryan, Rock My Town.” Like it’s a pilot for several Ryan events. He may have snared AI talent as part of his contract deal.

The sponsor is Eventful.com. Guessing Ryan getting bucks from them. Because they’re a 2004 start-up, with venture capital backing, who has to wannabe an IPO one day.

See that “DemandIt” logo on all the ads? They have an “Eventful On Demand” feature that is supposed to be about their members voting to “Demand” an act tour to their town. This looks like a promo for that. tie-ing in with Ryan’s ambitions. Expect town run-offs in January with all kinds of promo tricks up until the moment they reveal the nice mid-size town where they have already booked the venue.

Ryan’s mistake, as many have said, was pre-billing this as Big Adam News. Dumb. Even if they, clearly, thought that would cause biggest media attention. As many have said, he should have mentioned all 3, not just Adam. And billed as big Ryan news.

Forget fanwarring, which has never made any sense, ever. Meaningless in the recession ridden real world. And enjoy the free live performances streaming online or wherever Ryan uses them. “Can’t Stay Away” is a great live song. Probably Allison will sound like herself live.

For me, dawg, anytime people see Adam live, it electrifies their lives. And sells tour tix and records. Sounds like a grand, glittery, career enhancing Valentine

I saw a tweet go by that Perez is making fun of Adam’s position on the charts

when was this? i didn’t see it

I guess it was almost an hr ago now. I didn’t go to Perez site as I won’t give him the hits.

suebrody
11/09/2009 at 12:44 pm
WPLJ just played FYE. Is that in NJ?

It’s in New York. It’s the #1 HAC station in the country.

I’m not ‘feeling’ this concert. I thought American Idol was well behind them now and they were all ready to get on with their solo careers. I would think they’d all be busy promoting their albums and getting their individual tour groups put together to fool with this.

Sorry….I’m not liking the idea.

I heard on a radio station today, I keep listening waiting to hear FYE, that Steven Tyler is quitting Aerosmith and the DJ said….”Hey, Adam Lambert”! I never thought of that possibility. At least they’re talking about Adam even if I haven’t heard them play Adam’s single. (What’s with that…play the &*#@ song people!!

I hope Alli is not in this gig, is not good for her. I can see mainstream media picking their favorites in their reviews – not to mention American Idol fans. She won’t gain any new fans. I say swap Danny for Alli.

But I am pretty concerned about how exactly the event will be put together. Realistically, Kris as the AI8 winner will be billed as such and has the right to end the show. I think Kris fans would expect this and it would be fitting.

This is the reason why I want Kradison and Kradam to die. When I go see Adam on tour, he will be the star of the show. I don’t want another set of fans complaining that he got two minutes longer than the “winner” or any crap like that. Kris got his 15 minutes of fame for being the winner. Now let them stand up and perform as artists. If they have to perform together (notice I didn’t say compete) let them all be equal.

I saw a tweet go by that Perez is making fun of Adam’s position on the charts

I went to his twitter account and didnt see that…maybe he removed that tweet?

Also as far as the concert goes, its just more promotion, it doesnt mean they are going to tour together its just a one-off show to get ppl invested…
I agree they each have to be focusing on their individual careers now and they are doing that..its no big deal…
I dont think this contest will change that if anything its more promo and thats good…
hopefully Adam will tweet something about this…be back later

WPLJ just played FYE. Is that in NJ?

It’s in New York. It’s the #1 HAC station in the country.

Thanks. That’s good news. Seems Top 40 (CHR) has embraced FYE more than HAC to date.

Besides, everybody at this concert will be all over Adam & Kris and Alli will not get her due because the reasons above.
Don’t do it Alli, you deserve better.

I was looking forward to solo tours, but I love Alli, and you know what adding her to the “Adam & Kris” show means…drum roll please…”Slow ride”!!!

And Adam fans should vote, or else AT&T will arrange to have it in Little Rock (if their 3G network hasn’t crashed today) lol

I see nothing wrong with a free concert. It will help all three of these Idols, it will generate tons of free publicity for them all, and will boost their albums!

Not my first choice, but I’m really warming to the idea. Now how can I get a seat near the stage?

Perez has an entry today on his ((gag!)) website that Adam’s single isn’t selling.

heard on a radio station today, I keep listening waiting to hear FYE, that Steven Tyler is quitting Aerosmith and the DJ said’ ¦.’ Hey, Adam Lambert’ !

Thius is rather annoying…he doesnt need to be the frontman for an already established group he is talented enough to do his own thing and be his own artist…not part of something else…ppl need to realize that…
although it would be cool if he would do like a one-off concert with them as a tribute or something…great music and great promo…
but I think all of that lies in the future once he becomes more established as an individual artist..
Nov.22 cant come fast enough

Rub
11/09/2009 at 12:52 pm
I hope Alli is not in this gig, is not good for her. I can see mainstream media picking their favorites in their reviews ‘“ not to mention American Idol fans. She won’t gain any new fans. I say swap Danny for Alli.

Oh, she’s definitely in it. The banner on Ryan’s website confirms it: http://www.ryanseacrest.com

I just wonder why she wasn’t originally in the promotional rules. Maybe her availability wasn’t known, or maybe the guys wanted her for the concert, or maybe to cut down all the “kradam” tinhatting again..LOL. Either way, it’s going to be a sweet gig for her and for all of them. If it increases radio play, then more power to them. They are all different, I don’t think it will hurt them any.

But I am pretty concerned about how exactly the event will be put together. Realistically, Kris as the AI8 winner will be billed as such and has the right to end the show. I think Kris fans would expect this and it would be fitting. However, reviews of the summer tour spoke of the difference in energy of the two performers and I don’t see how this will really change by February. I admit I am biased here but in terms of the final number I could see a huge case being made for Adam ending the show with a big, powerful, bombastic number, ending the night with a bang. How exactly would that go down with the Kris fans? I’m just speculating here so please don’t throw stones or think I am starting fanwars or putting words in people’s mouths! I don’t want to get deleted, I am just putting my point of view across. Namely, while this concert could be fun, I think there is potential for it to simply reignite a lot of bitterness among one fan base or another.

I won’t be throwing stones because you hit the nail on the head for me. I like Kris and think he’s talented. (I don’t care if he publicly tweeted Adam about FYE or not. My guess is he’s already spoken to or texted Adam and privately given his support and praise.) I like a couple of his new songs and will either download them or maybe even buy the entire album. But I would not pay to see him in concert and I don’t come on this site everyday to read about him.

And I agree with you. Realistically, as the winner, Kris probably should get top billing i.e. close the show. But I just really don’t want to see it. I dealt with it during the tour at the show in my city (and the only thing that made it palatable was the fact that is WAS Kris) but I really don’t want to see it again. I know Adam will get second billing if he tours with other established acts/headliners, but to me that’s different. And you’re right, given the types of songs Adam would sing and his performance style, there’s just an energy level he brings that’s going to reflexively draw comparisons. So I think there’s a downside for Kris too.

I agree with Q3: this is good for Allison, 19 and Ryan. For Adam … yes, I want to see him out there promoting his album and performing, just not in this type of format.

I went to his twitter account and didnt see that’ ¦maybe he removed that tweet?

I never saw a tweet, but there is a blurb on his website….(i didn’t notice perez doing a blurb when llwd was not no. 1 within a week)

I think this concert could be fun, and could definitely give a bit of a boost to CD sales in February’ ¦Kris as the AI8 winner will be billed as such and has the right to end the show. However, reviews of the summer tour spoke of the difference in energy of the two performers and I don’t see how this will really change by February. Namely, while this concert could be fun, I think there is potential for it to simply reignite a lot of bitterness among one fan base or another.

Starryeyed, not to worry. The format of the upcoming February 2010 show need not duplicate that of the summer tour. I went to several shows and both Adam and Kris, although having extremely different styles, are both very capable performers. Allison is also a dazzling little firefly in concert. Hell, yes, seeing them in February would be lots of fun. If some ‘fans’  see this as an opportunity to start warring, they seriously need to get a life and redirect their energy into something more positive and productive.

adamisthemanfan–I agree with you that Adam doesn’t need to be the ‘frontman’ for an established group but a one-concert idea might be good. I’d rather see that be with Queen, myself.

I still don’t have my computer fixed so I’ll check back later. Thanks MJ for this blog so I can keep up on my Adam news!!

I saw a tweet go by that Perez is making fun of Adam’s position on the charts

I went to his twitter account and didnt see that’ ¦maybe he removed that tweet?

Didn’t say it was fr Perez. I do not follow him nor go to his blog. Someone else alerted people.

At first I was disappointed with this “big Adam news” – guess I was secretly hoping for something else – like maybe Adam performing with Queen (yes a wild hopeful fantasy).

But I’m cool with it now – Adam and Kris are my favorites – I would definitely go to this show if possible. I’ll vote too because I do want to help them with marketing or whatever kind of information they’re looking for. All marketing is helpful IMO.

I’m going to work on thinking really positive thoughts about this event not fueling more fanwarring and comparisons when it happens. I really want them all to be successful in their chosen path.

So I think there’s a downside for Kris too.

Righto, the downside for Kris is the same downside as the first AI summer tour concerts, where half the arena (at least it seemed that way) got up and left in the middle of his set so they could take up the best positions at the barricades in order to meet Adam after the show.

The real reason, IMHO, that Adam stopped going out to the barricades after the concerts was out of his loyalty to his friend Kris. He just didn’t want to be responsible, even indirectly, for embarrassing his friend. And at the risk of discontent of his own fans.

I really think this is the real reason Adam stopped going out to the barricades after the show (I know he went out there at the Providence show, but that was near the end, and by then fans had become more discreet about making the exodus).

If this is so, and I can’t find the ref where one of the other Idols let it slip, then my opinion of Adam comes out even higher than it already is.

There is a Kradam thread on adamoffical that the RCAmod insists is going to stay despite the desire of some fans to kill it. It’s going to stay alive because Adam wants it to stay alive.

a one-concert idea might be good. I’d rather see that be with Queen, myself.

I am optimistic that an Adam Lambert-Queen collaboration will come to fruition at some point in the future, especially since both Brian May and Roger Taylor speak so highly of him. Note to Roger: it’s Adam Lambert, not Bolton.

Perez didn ´t tweeted anything, he posted it on his website http://perezhilton.com/2009-11-09-glamberts-debut-isnt-selling

Someone on Twitter brought up a good point. This concert will not get new fans as the tickets are only being offered by lottery to the existing fans who are voting.

Edit: others can vote, but the way it is announced is targeted to existing fans.

Ugh! I hate Kradam and was hoping to never see them on the same show again!

Perez didn ´t tweeted anything, he posted it on his website http://perezhilton.com/2009-11-09-glamberts-debut-isnt-selling

Perez is an idiot. He doesn’t realize that the single was offerred on AO first and who’s he comparing Adam to anyway? Lady GaGa, Katy Perry?

suebrody
11/09/2009 at 12:39 pm
So was Allison a last minute add to this concert?? If so, why?

Maybe they thought (correctly) that the concert needed some star power in the lineup.
…
Just kidding!!! (Although, for me, she definitely adds to the concert)

The concert provides Ryan Seacrest with an opportunity to promote himself as well as Adam, Kris, and Allison. More promotion and radio spins are good. One concert for fans is, also, good. The fans that don’t want to see the three of them together should go to someone else’s concert.

PattyH
11/09/2009 at 11:27 am

Listening to Seacrest promote the heck out of the Adam-Kris-Allison (the order he used) show/contest and now he’s playing FYE. See only positive outcome for all three coming out of this.

Yup, that’s what I figured. This will really promote radio play for all three of them.

And that really is great for all three. Wondering if the contest allows Ryan to promote/play their singles without having made top 40 yet?
If so, that is very smart.

It’s one night, not a year long tour. They get a lot of promo up until then (when is it supposed to take place? I couldn’t find a date).

From what I can tell how the AI franchise works- the contestants of any particular season seem to remain within an extended family type of connection with each other until the next AI season begins or until the next round of finalists (and winner) is announced for the new season.

So doesn’t surprise me that the franchise wants to take advantage of a potentially successful marketing strategy using something that the fans themselves created: Kradison.

Looks like I’ll be deleting some posts…and maybe moderating.

Apologizing to me does not help. It actually pisses me off more, because I know YOU know it wrong.

Please chill out, people.

IDK about this concert, it is only one night. I do have a problem with how Adam will present his songs. Frankly, I can’t see him holding back on FYE because it is an AI tour/concert. Just not his style. But will he be able to have dancers, etc, at this type of show? If not, will it take something away from the songs? I can’t wait to see what they do with FYE live, just don’t know how that will translate to this concert. Don’t know if this makes sense, but….

There is a Kradam thread on adamoffical that the RCAmod insists is going to stay despite the desire of some fans to kill it. It’s going to stay alive because Adam wants it to stay alive

I doubt that Adam really cares one way or another. Im sure if he was asked and I doubt that he was, he wouldn’t have seen anything wrong with it. I assume it was done to stop the arguing on the site. Unfortunately the Kradam thread is filled with people who think that Kris wrote the songs on his album for Adam. They are fantasizing that Kris will take Adam’s last name now that Adam is single. They are awaiting with baited breath until Adam and Kris become a couple. Sorry mj….I had to answer this poster.

I think this concert will at least benefit Kris in that he is having his own tour starting in Feb. The Kradison concert will bring some extra attention to Kris and also provide an opportunity for Kris’ band to warm up for its own concerts.

GaryJ
11/09/2009 at 1:19 pm

The real reason, IMHO, that Adam stopped going out to the barricades after the concerts was out of his loyalty to his friend Kris. He just didn’t want to be responsible, even indirectly, for embarrassing his friend. And at the risk of discontent of his own fans.

If this is so, and I can’t find the ref where one of the other Idols let it slip, then my opinion of Adam comes out even higher than it already is.

GaryJ, don’t mean to be dense, but are you saying that one of the other Idols let is slip during the tour that Adam wasn’t going to the barricades so that more people would stay in their seats during Kris’ set? I never heard anything about this.

Although Adam, Kris and Allison were all on AI, this is not being billed as an “AI” event…if it is in NYC I will certainly go, and it is good for all 3 of them that seacrest will be talking the concert up…as for who is going first, second, third etc., who really cares? but i think it is wrong to assume that because Kris was the AI winner that he will get “top billing” and close the show because of that….this is not the AI tour….I just think that the people who have been giving this a thumbs down (and I guess I was initially one of them), are doing so because they don’t want to have to again sit thru the performance of a non-favorite just to be able to see their favorite, which is valid…but any chance to see your favorite is a good thing imo

I’m not pretending to know how Adam feels about the Kradam thread at adamoffcial. I was paraphrasing the RCA moderator. I went back for the quote, but the mod thread is down.

Rub
I hope Alli is not in this gig, is not good for her. I can see mainstream media picking their favorites in their reviews ‘“ not to mention American Idol fans. She won’t gain any new fans. I say swap Danny for Alli.

Interesting. But that would be no different than the tour, where even Kris was often second place for the critics.
I think that if she goes outthere and rocks it out, it will be good for her, even if Adam and Kris attract the most attention. It will be a fairly high profile gig, and that’s what new artists need.
Sometimes, in our fanatism, we forget that all of them are new artists, and exposure should be a good thing. The alternative will be to stay home, or do some other gig. Unless she starts opening for Pink, or the like, how would that be better than this gig?

Oh, I feel so sorry for Sadao, Ryan’s producer – he was the one who said about big Adam’s news. And now he gets threats and insults, because people are unhappy with this idea.

Well, I am happy because our little radio station in Albany, NY is playing FYE. Yay.
ETA no opinion about concert at this time..

but i think it is wrong to assume that because Kris was the AI winner that he will get ‘top billing’  and close the show because of that’ ¦.this is not the AI tour’ ¦.I just think that the people who have been giving this a thumbs down (and I guess I was initially one of them), are doing so because they don’t want to have to again sit thru the performance of a non-favorite just to be able to see their favorite

Nope, not for me anyway. I enjoyed both Kris’s and Allison’s sets (maybe Allison’s a little more) and I never felt I was just “sitting through” them.

Maybe some of the Cook or Archie fans can shed some light on the performance order when the two of them did their concert in Manila. Did they each do a “set” and who went last?

I posted on yesterday’s headlines that I’m not impressed with this gig, and I stick to that opinion. I saw three Idol shows this summer and do not want to have to sit through other performers when I go to see Adam. Sorry. And I can’t see how they will arrange this show so that fans of one or the other aren’t annoyed by the outcome. The musical styles of all three of these folks are so different, it isn’t going to gell. If it’s in NY I will pass and catch Adam’s set on YouTube, and save my energy for his solo tour.

Glad FYE will now get airplay on KIIS (ooh, Ryan you’re my hero. NOT), but wish this didn’t have to be the price. YMMV.

Maybe some of the Cook or Archie fans can shed some light on the performance order when the two of them did their concert in Manila. Did they each do a ‘set’  and who went last?

As I recall, Archie’s set was first, Cookie’s second. Then Archie joined Cook for A Daily AntheM (Cook’s song and the concert finale). You can find vids on YouTube. Here’s a short clip of the ending, quite a moving event, audience of over 50K.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJCAN4gw770

Kris, Allyson and Adam are great friends who love and support each other. And it’s sad to see bitter hatred between their fans. I remember how three of them called to Ryan after results show of second group – and they already sounded like best friends. And now they are biggest stars of Idol’s eight season, performing for fans in free concert, getting promotion on biggest radio show – and people are still unhappy with this.

Oh, I feel so sorry for Sadao, Ryan’s producer ‘“ he was the one who said about big Adam’s news. And now he gets threats and insults, because people are unhappy with this idea.

He’s a big boy. He knew he was “using” Mr. Lambert’s fans. He knew what the reaction would be.

I don’t really have an opinion one way or the other on this concert, but for me, by February (actually, sooner than that!), I’ll be estatic to have a YouTube video of him in any sort of concert! It’s hard not to have daily Adam news – as we’re finding out right now! Can hardly wait for the AMAs/CD/GMA/Letterman/Ellen – but what do we have to look forward to after that? After maybe some more TV appearances, etc., will we be really hard up for Adam news??

Sure wish he would send a tweet and tell us something – ANYTHING – even if it’s just “Good morning!” Hope he doesn’t “fade away” from Twitter after the storm dies down. Maybe he’d consider having a Twitter party (even though I don’t have an account, I know all of you would update those of us that don’t!). We can dream, can’t we?

The musical styles of all three of these folks are so different, it isn’t going to gel.

This also concerns me.

He’s a big boy. He knew he was ‘using’  Mr. Lambert’s fans. He knew what the reaction would be.

That’s the problem – some Adam’s fans (and I’m his fan as well) for some reasons think everybody is using them and Adam. But the truth is – Adam is not selling arenas and stadiums yet, and he is a new young artist who needs all promotion he can get. In this aspect he’s not different from Kris and Allyson.

GaryJ, don’t mean to be dense, but are you saying that one of the other Idols let is slip during the tour that Adam wasn’t going to the barricades so that more people would stay in their seats during Kris’ set? I never heard anything about this.

What I gave was just my opinion, nothing more. Someone told me about the “slip”, but when I searched through a dozen or so local newspaper interviews trying to find it, I couldn’t. I found some other surprising things, but not what I was looking for. That’s why I said “IMHO”…if I can’t prove it, it’s just my opinion…sorry

I understand the deal here. Mr. Lambert agrees to perform free at this concert in exchange for FYE spins on the Clear Channel Communication stations carrying Seacrest’s syndicated show. That’s cool. It’s a business deal that he couldn’t refuse.

Seacrest’s producer knew that he was “using” Mr. Lambert’s fans by tweeing about upcoming “big news”. Another round of American Idol duets like We Are Champions and Don’t Stop Believing is not something that is likely to be considered “big news”. Seacrest’s producer knew that. The deception was pre-meditated. That’s fine, but so is giving the guy some grief over it. He’s a big boy. He knew it would be coming.

Just not his style. But will he be able to have dancers, etc, at this type of show? If not, will it take something away from the songs? I can’t wait to see what they do with FYE live, just don’t know how that will translate to this concert. Don’t know if this makes sense, but’ ¦.

I’m not worried. What did Adam have on the AI tour?? Nothing no else didn’t have. He had a mikestand, his f***ing jacket!!!, the backing band and an empty stage and he still managed to mesmerize a wholle lotta people with his presentation and his dancing. Just read the concert reviews! Not worried at all.

Ligeya
11/09/2009 at 3:08 pm

He’s a big boy. He knew he was ‘using’  Mr. Lambert’s fans. He knew what the reaction would be.

That’s the problem ‘“ some Adam’s fans (and I’m his fan as well) for some reasons think everybody is using them and Adam. But the truth is ‘“ Adam is not selling arenas and stadiums yet, and he is a new young artist who needs all promotion he can get. In this aspect he’s not different from Kris and Allyson.

Neither are Kris and Allison. I could care less that this concert is for the three of them, but all three names should have been used to “tease” about this. It was not right to use one of the three to “tease” about something that all three will be appearing in. Of course YMMV.

GaryJ
11/09/2009 at 3:14 pm

GaryJ, don’t mean to be dense, but are you saying that one of the other Idols let is slip during the tour that Adam wasn’t going to the barricades so that more people would stay in their seats during Kris’ set? I never heard anything about this.

What I gave was just my opinion, nothing more. Someone told me about the ‘slip’ , but when I searched through a dozen or so local newspaper interviews trying to find it, I couldn’t. I found some other surprising things, but not what I was looking for. That’s why I said ‘IMHO’ ’ ¦if I can’t prove it, it’s just my opinion’ ¦sorry

No need to apologize! I’m a HUUUUUGE Adam fan, sorry if that didn’t come across in my post. (I don’t care anything much about the others although I wish them well.) Anyway, I wasn’t asking you about this for any other reason beyond finding your theory interesting. From what we’ve seen/heard of Adam being a gentleman/courteous/supportive of his friends, it wouldn’t surprise me if you were right. Also I’d never heard about the “slip,” so I was just trying to make sure I’d understood your post correctly in that an Idol let it slip that Adam was skipping after show signings to help keep people from leaving during Kris’ set. (And I know you’ve responded that you could never find proof of this slip.) Still, interesting …

Crazylady – Adam did tweet today

adamlambert
Meetings and more today. Planning AMA performance to For Your Entertainment. So hot, out the box.

Alright here’s my thoughts now that I got over Roadblock 2.0.

- If Seacrest wants his project to be a success he is going to want his performers to be a success, so his station should start playing all three of them. ALOT.

- I also think the date is actually a good time to do it. We were all just talking about this yesterday about how some of the top 10 songs on Itunes have been on the charts for months. If Adam, Kris, or Allison have a hit on their hands, they should be peaking about the time the concert is.

-It’s only one night

- most of us here won’t see it live anyway, and those of us watching it on youtube can just skip past the parts we don’t want to see.

I just hope they are all in the middle of their own tours by then. Loved kradison, but really want to see them doing their own thing.

adamlambert

1. Meetings and more today. Planning AMA performance to For Your Entertainment. So hot, out the box

cool beans.i don’t care that much though.honestly,the only part of the post that interests me is ” season 8 isn’t dead yet “.hell,yeah.to me season 8 is forever.on this blog,season 8 is now until ummmm maybe febraury.obviously it’s up to mj,but there won’t be that much season 9 news then.after that occasional posts,but there will still be headlines….

It was not right to use one of the three to ‘tease’  about something that all three will be appearing in.

To be honest, there is some story behind it. Few weeks ago Sadao said Adam’s song from 2012 will be aired in preview of the movie. He was wrong, and many Adam’s fans were extremely upset with him. He was getting death threats, insults, people were writing to Ryan, complaining about him and wanting him fired. It was very ugly, to be honest. In the middle of this story he promised big news to Adam’s fans, to calm them down, and that’s why he talked to Adam’s fans, announcing this story.
And it was his personal twitter, not official resource. I’m sure he’s absolutely baffled by reaction to this news, and rightly so.

I think I am glad I have only twittered once, and plan to keep it that way. Get in way too much trouble there!!!

And it was his personal twitter, not official resource. I’m sure he’s absolutely baffled by reaction to this news, and rightly so.

Why is he baffled? This is his 2nd time with the same kind of mistake. He was wrong to say there was big Adam news. He targeted only Adam fans. Why weren’t the others mentioned?

He told us we were getting ice cream and then gave us Brussels sprouts.

He was getting death threats, insults, people were writing to Ryan, complaining about him and wanting him fired. It was very ugly, to be honest.

Yeah, and then the crazy Glamberts started sacrificing their young and having mass suicide pacts all across the country.Then they started taking DJ’s hostage in a coordinated effort until they played FYE in every radio station across the nation. Every single Adam fan known to mankind went absolutely batshit crazy that day. They think it was a strain of the swine flu, dubbed the “glitter bug”

Seriously, where are people coming up with this shit?

Every day on the tour, in the afternoon, there was a press availability for half the Idols, sort of like a press conference I guess, except usually only a couple of local media outlets showed up — mainly daily newspapers. Each got a chance to ask questions of the individual Idols. It was the paper’s choice of what got included in whatever they printed. In most or all cases these stories were linked here. It seems to me there was a part two somewhere that wasn’t, though, and I tried but could not find that one either.

Some of the Idols in the lower tier said some things that I found pretty jaw-dropping, but I never saw them discussed here, so either I missed comments here, or else peeps were just following their favorite top Idols and not paying much attention to what the bottom 4 were saying in newspaper interviews in the hinterland.

I think Sadao tried to make up for Adam’s fans after his 2012 roadblock tweet. He may think Adam being a part of an AI alum concert is good enough for Adam and his fans. He really underestimated how ambitious Adam’s fans are for Adam’s career. lol

I think Adam won’t have any problem doing the Kradison concert. Six months ago, in one of the pre-AI-tour interviews with Lil, Adam already talked about a re-union of AI8.

He targeted only Adam fans.

He talked only to Adam’s fans because he promised this story to them few weeks ago. He has communication with some of them after that sad story with death threats. And he wasn’t wrong this time. It’s not his fault Adam’s fans are not happy with this news for some reasons.

And maybe Sadao likes Adam more (it was his personal twitter, after all) – I listen Ryan’s show, and everybody from Ryan’s staff LOVED Adam during Idol. Not anymore, I’m afraid. Stories like that create bad reputation not only for fans, but for artist as well.

Wow, as an Allison fan, I only hope she enjoys this concert and soon manages to get away from Adam and Kris and the Idol fanbase where she was always and still is underappreciated and treated like she’s less than them. She deserves better.

Ligeya
11/09/2009 at 3:57 pm
I listen Ryan’s show, and everybody from Ryan’s staff LOVED Adam during Idol. Not anymore, I’m afraid. Stories like that create bad reputation not only for fans, but for artist as well.

Ligeya, can you elaborate? Are you saying that Ryan’s staff have publicly indicated they are not supportive of Adam any longer because of some crazy fans?

Seriously, where are people coming up with this shit?

It’s truth. And you can find in on twitter if you want. I think it happened in the end of septemeber. I know Sadao, but never connected him with Idol. So when this story happened, it was very ugly.

He told us we were getting ice cream and then gave us Brussels sprouts.

But he probably honestly thought he was giving Adam fans ice cream. I think he can be forgiven for not knowing that announcing a special concert featuring your favourite, possibly in your home town with free tickets, would be seen as “Brussel Sprouts”.

It’s kind of like durian. People who like durian think that it is the King of Fruits. If they gave it to the other durian lovers, they would be thrilled. The rest of the planet just wants to barf. Especially when one is tricked into having durian ice cream. Seriously, there should be a law. Ice cream should never taste like that…oops…a rant for another day perhaps. And innocent people of the world be warned…they actually have vegamite ice cream now too!

In any event, I think poor Sadoa thought he was doing good. He just wasn’t aware of the existing fan sentiment on the subject. Just toss the durian ice cream in the potted plant. I think his heart was in the right place.

And now he gets threats and insults, because people are unhappy with this idea.

Poor guy. Probably be the last time he tweets about Adam LOL.

He’s a big boy. He knew he was ‘using’  Mr. Lambert’s fans. He knew what the reaction would be.

Ya know, I’m not so sure about that. I think for people who’ve never ventured into the bubble, it is probably unfathomable how deeply the uber-fans hold their opinions on the careers of the AI contestants. It probably never occurred to him that Adam fans would view an opportunity to see him in concert as anything but a good thing.

I think the guy was just trying to make up for his mistake. I don’t see it as him using anyone. Why would he need to? He works for the most powerful radio station in the country. He doesn’t need Adam – Adam needs people like him.

I’m sure he’s absolutely baffled by reaction to this news, and rightly so.

I’m amazed by the things people will hurl at others on Twitter. It’s like the rules of society don’t apply. I’ll never understand how people can be so rude to each other in any medium. And do they not ever even feel a little bad about hurting someone’s feelings? Twitter is just a wee bit creepy to me in that respect.

As far as the concert goes, Kris, Adam & Allison all have a long road to success in the music business. I don’t see the harm in doing this at all. The publicity they’ll get from this seem like it would be beneficial in my opinion.

Wow, as an Allison fan, I only hope she enjoys this concert and soon manages to get away from Adam and Kris and the Idol fanbase where she was always and still is underappreciated and treated like she’s less than them. She deserves better.

They all need to get away from each other and become their own star. That is what we want for Adam, that is what Allison’s fans want for her and I am positive that Kris’s fans want that also. As long as they are tied at the hip no-one is taking them seriously. If these concerts were so great why isn’t the hundred of thousands of fans that went to them buying their cds?

And maybe Sadao likes Adam more (it was his personal twitter, after all) ‘“ I listen Ryan’s show, and everybody from Ryan’s staff LOVED Adam during Idol. Not anymore, I’m afraid. Stories like that create bad reputation not only for fans, but for artist as well.

Ligeya – I think you may be projecting a little. Yes the fans should not have gone stupid on Sadao but after today it will be old news. Unless someone said something specifically I doubt feelings toward Adam have changed among Ryan’s staff.

He talked only to Adam’s fans because he promised this story to them few weeks ago.

and he conveniently left out the part about Kris and Allison whether he tweeted to their fans or not.

Ryan previously canvassed for suggestions for New Year’s Eve performances. Ryan received a lot of requests for Adam. Many people thought since the news was coming from Seacrest, this was the news. This would be BIG ADAM NEWS.

Many people are waiting to hear about a tour for Adam. Such an announcement would be BIG ADAM NEWS.

A Kradison one-time concert is NOT BIG ADAM NEWS.

and I don’t believe a word about death threats.

Are you saying that Ryan’s staff have publicly indicated they are not supportive of Adam any longer because of some crazy fans?

No, of course they didn’t indicated it – Ryan is very careful and his staff is well trained. But stories like that leave bad impression. I think they are genuinely surprised by this negative reaction. But still, they played Adam’s song today, and I think they are going to promote all three of them – and it’s always good news.

Kris, Allyson and Adam are great friends who love and support each other. And it’s sad to see bitter hatred between their fans.

I guess I’m not seeing the *bitter hatred* you are. I see a lot of people who like both but have a preference for one over the other. I see people who just want the S8 guys to start separating from Idol and each other and embark on their own careers (which is not really the same as wishing ill on anyone else, just wanting what’s best for their guy or girl). I see people who are ambivalent and would enjoy the opportunity for more youtube videos. I’m seeing a wide range of reactions actually. But bitter hatred? No, I personally am not seeing that.

Nowhere on Ryan’s site does it reference American Idol in regards to the concert with Adam, Kris, and Allison.

I do notice that Adam’s picture is in the forefront and that is what I think the concert will be predominantly featuring Adam… and yes just like on AI closing the concert.

This would be BIG ADAM NEWS.

Many people are waiting to hear about a tour for Adam. Such an announcement would be BIG ADAM NEWS.

A Kradison one-time concert is NOT BIG ADAM NEWS.

Okay, so the disagreement here is about what constitutes BIG ADAM NEWS? His definition of what that would be, and your definition of what it should be are clearly different. But, I still don’t see that as a mistake on his part.

and I don’t believe a word about death threats.

Well, death threats or not, being irate at this guy and tweeting him obnoxious insults are still unadvisable. The Claymates and Soul Patrol didn’t have twitter. So, people should be careful not to use it to speed up the process of turning Adam’s fanbase into a punch line.

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and I don’t believe a word about death threats.

Oh well.
http://twitter.com/Richelle177/status/4543726745

Just one of the examples.

He’s a big boy. He knew he was ‘using’  Mr. Lambert’s fans. He knew what the reaction would be.

That’s the problem ‘“ some Adam’s fans for some reasons think everybody is using them and Adam. But the truth is ‘“ Adam is not selling arenas and stadiums yet, and he is a new young artist who needs all promotion he can get. In this aspect he’s not different from Kris and Allyson.

The point is, Sadao should have addressed Kris and Allison fans too, but he didn’t. The implication was that this was a big announcement exclusively for Adam fans, and that it was an exclusive Adam event. We were indeed mislead. Why was that?

Seriously, where are people coming up with this shit?

It’s truth. And you can find in on twitter if you want. I think it happened in the end of septemeber. I know Sadao, but never connected him with Idol. So when this story happened, it was very ugly.

I was on twitter that day. I know what happened i don’t have to look it up. A few crazies as usual got mad, but just like this dj incident the other day, most Adam fans were telling him it was an honest mistake and he quickly said he would make it up to Adam fans, which, IMHO he didn’t have to. It was a couple of crazy fans. No one can help that, and he should know that of all people.

Close personal friend of Sadao Turners, huh? Interesting.

Kris, Allyson and Adam are great friends who love and support each other. And it’s sad to see bitter hatred between their fans.

I don’t see hatred; I see major disappointment in the announcement, and the way it was presented.

Close personal friend of Sadao Turners, huh? Interesting.

Lol, you make it sound like headline from post on perezhilton.
I just follow him on twitter, that’s all. And like him a lot.

I do notice that Adam’s picture is in the forefront and that is what I think the concert will be predominantly featuring Adam’ ¦ and yes just like on AI closing the concert.

Only Adam’s picture is from his post-AI shoot, while Kris and Allison’s are from the program for AI tour. Nothing more than showing how rough this promo is.

Not anymore, I’m afraid. Stories like that create bad reputation not only for fans, but for artist as well.

I think they’ll laugh over it and move on.

and I don’t believe a word about death threats.

Oh I believe it. Maybe not death threats but “I hope you die” type tweets? Sure.

During Season 5, a gang of uberfans on a fanboard wished me dead, and then fantasized on how they’d like to see that come about.

They settled on drowning and fireants. Simultaneously. Not only did they want my demise, but a slow, painful one at that.

And these peeps were fans of an Idol I liked.

Ligeya
11/09/2009 at 4:14 pm
and I don’t believe a word about death threats.

Oh well.
http://twitter.com/Richelle177/status/4543726745

Just one of the examples.

Oh, poop. Anyone can see this is just ridiculous. The only thing more ridiculous is blowing it out of proportion.

Well, death threats or not, being irate at this guy and tweeting him obnoxious insults are still unadvisable.

I looked at those tweets. What I saw was people laughing at him or saying they were mislead. I didn’t see any threats or even cursing.

mj
11/09/2009 at 4:19 pm
and I don’t believe a word about death threats.

Oh I believe it. Maybe not death threats but ‘I hope you die’  type tweets? Sure.

During Season 5, a gang of uberfans on a fanboard wished me dead, and then fantasized on how they’d like to see that come about.

They settled on drowning and fireants. Simultaneously. Not only did they want my demise, but a slow, painful one at that.

And these peeps were fans of an Idol I liked.

I’m sorry about this. People are sick.

The point is, Sadao should have addressed Kris and Allison fans too, but he didn’t. The implication was that this was a big announcement exclusively for Adam fans, and that it was an exclusive Adam event. We were indeed mislead. Why was that?

Because he felt he owed something to Adam fans whereas he didn’t to Kris or Allison fans. He made a mistake believing the internet rumours that the Roadblock would feature Adam’s song. Because he was a producer for Ryan, people believed he had an inside track. When that didn’t happen, a lot of the anger/disappointment got vented on him. He promised that he would make it up to them probably because he knew about the upcoming concert (these take time to plan).

So, he had a previous (rocky) relationship with Adam fans and addressed them specifically. He never disappointed Kris or Allison fans with incorrect internet rumours, so he didn’t feel the need to alert them to the upcoming news. Plus, Adam had premiered his song on his show so that increased the relationship.

Honestly, I think the guy thought he was doing Adam fans a favour. It’s still a concert featuring their favourite.

What would the reaction have been if he’d announced that there was going to be a Lady Gaga, Adam and P!nk concert in the new year? Would Adam fans still be furious that he hadn’t said “I have big Gaga, P!nk and Adam news for you tomorrow”? I think they might have been a little happier even if he’d just addressed Adam fans. So, I think that he made an honest mistake.

adamaloha

Oh, poop. Anyone can see this is just ridiculous. The only thing more ridiculous is blowing it out of proportion.

But you agree it’s sick?

I have no doubt that some crazy fans say crazy sh*t, just like mj cited above about Season 5. Twitter only makes it worse.

But there seems to be a concerted effort by some folks, imo, (by citing random tweets), to paint Adam fans, collectively, as a bunch of out of control lunatics, aka “glamberts”. It’s a smear tactic against Adam fans and ultimately against Adam. That’s my take on it.

eTA: I don’t see a lot of the ‘fury’ about this either, just disappointment for SOME.

I guess I’m not seeing the *bitter hatred* you are.

I just made a mistake and read some twitters. I assure you, there are some very bitter and angry people.

What would the reaction have been if he’d announced that there was going to be a Lady Gaga, Adam and P!nk concert in the new year? Would Adam fans still be furious that he hadn’t said ‘I have big Gaga, P!nk and Adam’  news for you tomorrow? I think they might have been a little happier. So, I think that he made an honest mistake.

Are you really comparing Kris and Allison to Lady GaGa and Pink?

Ligeya
11/09/2009 at 4:25 pm
adamaloha

Oh, poop. Anyone can see this is just ridiculous. The only thing more ridiculous is blowing it out of proportion.

But you agree it’s sick?

Absolutely.
ETA: And twitter is the devil.

It sounds, to me, like a “not-payola” concert that benefits everyone. I think that FifthSun nailed it in her analysis a few pages back. And the only people who are upset are agonizing much too much over the fate of their “favorite” … as if a one-off concert were going to affect their fate in any way, shape or form. These guys weathered stupid comparisons all summer long; one more set of stupid comparisons won’t cause any ripples in the space-time continuum. No biggie. All three will have launched their debut albums. All three will have new stuff to test drive and it will be a really fun day for all concerned.

Plus, Kris’ new material is excellent!!!!!!! Adam’s looks like it will be equally so … and Allie can probably hold her own; she did all summer.

If I could go, I most certainly would.

They settled on drowning and fireants. Simultaneously. Not only did they want my demise, but a slow, painful one at that.

And how funny was it a week later when that Bones episode had the victim of the week dying by fire ants? LMAO. Good times. The post-season 5 crazy was very special indeed.

I looked at those tweets. What I saw was people laughing at him or saying they were mislead. I didn’t see any threats or even cursing.

Admittedly, my tolerance for OTT fantardary is pretty low. I’m also a fan of politeness in general. And, I’m easily weirded out by people being overly familiar with strangers. Accusing someone of misleading people when he said he had Adam news and then gave them Adam news, it just wasn’t the particular brand of Adam news they wanted, is a little bit strange to me.

It’s just a perspective differential. I’m okay with it if I’m in the minority on that one.

That guy did tweet Allison and Kris’ fan bases about the news. He tweeted @Alliholics @kaaddicts, @KrisTogether and @krisallennation

Are you really comparing Kris and Allison to Lady GaGa and Pink?

So you think Adam is only supposed to be sharing a stage with people like Pink and Lady GaGa?

Fireants?????

Oh. man. I am sorry but that just made me lmao.

So MJ- come on- do you blame a whole fanbase for a few crazies? I know Adam has some crazy fans. One of them called that molinari dude the C- word ( ??) for spilling the Adam is single news. You can’t help a few crazies.

I just follow him on twitter, that’s all. And like him a lot.

That’s not quite the same as “knowing” somebody.

Are you really comparing Kris and Allison to Lady GaGa and Pink?

No. I simply picked two other artists that have been mentioned by posters as possible tour partner’s for Adam.

If the problem was that the tweet did not include the other two artists on the bill, was it because it was the two artists in question or just because it should have included all artists on the bill? Where was this tweeter’s transgression? If it was simply the two artists in question, then it’s easy to forgive him for not mentioning them. He had no reason for knowing the history involved. If it is because he was rude to the two other artists, then perhaps he can be forgiven for not wanting to spoil the surprise.

Reminder:

I’m watching thhis thread. If ya’ll start repeating yourselves, I’ll be deleting some posts.

I think everybody has made their point. Let’s move on.

Are you really comparing Kris and Allison to Lady GaGa and Pink?

Huh? I think Kirsten was just using a hypothetical example here to make a point. I didn’t see any comparison there.

So MJ- come on- do you blame a whole fanbase for a few crazies? I know Adam has some crazy fans. One of them called that molinari dude the C- word ( ??) for spilling the Adam is single news. You can’t help a few crazies.

No one blames a whole fanbase for anything. I in fact think there’s actually no such thing as a “fanbase”. There is no collective group with the same views or opinions. Most fan groups are actually made up of quite different people. It is just the fanboard with their stupid nicknames and fan #’s that would have you believe that any of these guys have some completely connected up fanbase.

And, the fanboards are just the same few hundred people posting over and over. But, those who post and tweet the most, speak the loudest. It’s the same people who send obnoxious tweets to people in the music business and spam the comments section of every unflattering article. Then, they go back to their fanboards and pat themselves on the back and receive their virtual high fives from the Kool aid drinkers.

The point is though – that THOSE are the people that keep being heard by those on the “outside”. Those are the people who will create the “Glambert” reputation.

I’m halfway grossed out by how
sick ppl can be,and thenother half of me can’t stop laughing at ” drowning and fireants” lol

MJ. I’m very glad that you didn’t drown in a pool of swimming fireants. Were they supposed to be doing a front crawl or a breast stroke? oooops. That didn’t come out quite right. But giggles aside … I hope that kind of stupidity doesn’t happen to you again.

What would the reaction have been if he’d announced that there was going to be a Lady Gaga, Adam and P!nk concert in the new year? Would Adam fans still be furious that he hadn’t said ‘I have big Gaga, P!nk and Adam’  news for you tomorrow?

I don’t have an answer because there is no question. Fans of course will react differently to different line up. Kris+Allison, Gaga+Pink, Queen+Bowie…the differences are obvious. If Adam can have the honor to feature in the same concert with the latter two pairs, Adam’s fans will have no complaint no matter how Sadao tweet it.

But I agree Sadao was doing Adam’ fans a favor.

PRMari
Wow, as an Allison fan, I only hope she enjoys this concert and soon manages to get away from Adam and Kris and the Idol fanbase where she was always and still is underappreciated and treated like she’s less than them. She deserves better.

My thoughts exactly. Thanks PRMari!

MJ. I’m very glad that you didn’t drown in a pool of swimming fireants

Living in Florida, everyone knows that the one thing to do when you’ve accidentally stepped in a fire ant hill and they’re biting their way up your legs is to jump in the pool! That gets them off you right quick. So, needless to say, that board’s malicious intent toward MJ was not conjured up by the “A” students

Well, death threats or not, being irate at this guy and tweeting him obnoxious insults are still unadvisable. The Claymates and Soul Patrol didn’t have twitter. So, people should be careful not to use it to speed up the process of turning Adam’s fanbase into a punch line.

Excellent advice, and if you have any ideas how to stop these morons from tweeting in the first place, I’d love to hear them.

They settled on drowning and fireants. Simultaneously. Not only did they want my demise, but a slow, painful one at that.

lol. are ott fans more creative since then?

Many people thought since the news was coming from Seacrest, this was the news. This would be BIG ADAM NEWS. Many people are waiting to hear about a tour for Adam. Such an announcement would be BIG ADAM NEWS.

Yes, of course, but let’s be honest – what tour? He doesn’t have a material for tour. He needs singles, videos, live performances, talk shows and concerts like this one.

Excellent advice but if you have any ideas how to stop these morons from tweeting in the first place I’d love to hear it.

LOL – I just throw out random advice – I have no actual solutions. Honestly, sometimes I’m so shocked by what people say on twitter, I don’t even know how to react. Except to shake my head and say “their mama’s just didn’t raise them right”. It espeically bugs when they’re sort of doing it in someone else’s name. Like – when they use some variation of their fan name or whatnot. So, they paint the person they’re a fan of with the same brush. When really, they should just be individually owning their own crazy.

Oh MJ, fireants – really? That’s cruel and unusual punishment. They must have been watching the Naked Jungle.

But you OTT fan’s totally turn me off sometimes with your addiction to Adam

you do realize your on an AI fan board ,right? ott?addiction? wowww…

hey another old new pic of Adam

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh78/jessiee2/justthetip066.jpg

So MJ- come on- do you blame a whole fanbase for a few crazies?

Did I say that? Where in my post did I say that? I said that I totally believed it was possible that sadao received death like threats because I had too.

I’ve also been called a c*nt, a bitch, had my photo posted in a fan forum for everyone to mock. Oh, and today I had to block the email of a fan who wished bad things would happen to me.

When I hear that fans are twittering nasty shit, I tend to believe it. Sorry.

would be seen as ‘Brussel Sprouts’ ….

OMG do not hate on brussel sprouts! I luurve them.

If Adam, Kris and Allison were vegetables what vegetable would they be? hmmmm Allison is obvious – bok choy- under appreciated but gaining popularity, seriously cool and yummy. Kris would be ….. zucchini – understated, mellow, versatile. Adam would be….. fiddlehead – exotic, pretty and deelish!

It espeically bugs when they’re sort of doing it in someone else’s name. Like ‘“ when they use some variation of their fan name or whatnot. So, they paint the person they’re a fan of with the same brush. When really, they should just be individually owning their own crazy.

Ha! Ain’t that the truth! Maybe twitter users should be forced to use their real first and last names so they will own their own crazy. It might weed out a few!

Come on, guys, this isn’t high school. Ryan and his staff will “like” Adam Lambert as long as they think they will be able to make money from him.

And BACK TO TOPIC, AdamAloha! I don’t know if you saw my earlier post, you need to get working on getting that concert to Hawaii! It’s a win, win for everyone!

Ligeya
11/09/2009 at 4:46 pm

Yes, of course, but let’s be honest ‘“ what tour? He doesn’t have a material for tour. He needs singles, videos, live performances, talk shows and concerts like this one.

Umm..the same kind of tour that Kris announced he would be starting at the beginning of the year? The same kind of tour that David Cook and David Archuleta did after finishing American Idol? The same kind of tour people with 1 album to their credit do? I don’t think the concert is a bad idea, but I do agree that he was a bit disingenuous with how he went about tweeting it. Whatevah, it’s not important. I would definitely never tweet someone about it. The more I read people’s tweets, I think twitter has become another form of harassment. I don’t know why people don’t just block the crazies..LOL

Did I say that? Where in my post did I say that? I said that I totally believed it was possible that sadao received death like threats because I had too

You misread my post MJ ( or I didn’t put it right). I meant you have been threatened by OTT fans, but you don’t take it as a whole fan base, right?

mj
11/09/2009 at 4:56 pm
So MJ- come on- do you blame a whole fanbase for a few crazies?

Did I say that? Where in my post did I say that? I said that I totally believed it was possible that sadao received death like threats because I had too.

I don’t think the poster was saying you said that MJ. I read it as just a question, because certain people have posted trying to paint Adam’s fanbase as all crazy because of the weirdness of a few. I read it as trying to get the read from someone who had actually experienced the crazy. I’ll admit, I was curious how you felt about it too. The Clay fan who has the fake website trying to fool people it’s you, do you just kind of shrug it off as a looney toon?

The same kind of tour that David Cook and David Archuleta did after finishing American Idol? The same kind of tour people with 1 album to their credit do?

David Cook performed lots of songs that were not in his album. I really hope when Adam tours, he will include the other 10+ songs left out of FYE, like those RedOne tracks.

This is the reason why I want Kradison and Kradam to die. When I go see Adam on tour, he will be the star of the show. I don’t want another set of fans complaining that he got two minutes longer than the ‘winner’  or any crap like that. Kris got his 15 minutes of fame for being the winner. Now let them stand up and perform as artists. If they have to perform together (notice I didn’t say compete) let them all be equal.

Exactly. I think this concert is a sweet idea really but I think it is too soon, too close to the end of AI8 and none of the idols have/will a fully fledged recording career by February. Comparisons are par for the course for Idol it would seem but I’d just rather that wasn’t fuelled any more than necessary. And I am an Adam fan through and through and even I am aware that he has yet to become the superstar so many predict he will be. It’s not that I think he is bigger than this concert, not at all, I just dread the ‘who’s better than whom’ fallout. I still don’t see any way the order of the performances, even if staggered and split up, will satisfy all fangroups. Sorry for whining, I’ll try a little more positivity!

I don’t believe the theories that Sadao was ‘using’ Adam fans. As mentioned before, Adam needs these people more than they need him and his fans. That goes for Kris and Allison too though. I’m still a bit bummed that it seemed there would be Adam news and it transpired it was Kradison news. However, bygones and all that, moving on to the prospect of a live Adam performance in 2010!

Now purleeeeze RCA/19/Adam/Ra/whoever, just throw us a bone here. Give us some great news of upcoming promo for Adam. We’ll play nicely, we promise!! Am I jealous of all the attention Kris is getting? Of course I am, I’m an Adam fan and proud of it! Kris is a lovely guy, he won, and I do want him to do well. But really I am struggling to think of a reason why Adam’s promo hasn’t kicked in. I’m glad he’s preparing well for the AMAs, hopefully that performance will really allow him to make his mark. Maybe ‘meetings and more’ means recorded interviews to be rolled out at intervals between now and the AMAs. If time is tight he could have spent a morning doing a bunch of chats and can then get back to rehearsals. I’m staying hopeful anyway!

The rules say that the contest is for the contiguous 48 states and DC.
It’s not clear,but this may be a private concert. There might not be any press to write reviews.

Ooh, that was a longer post than planned. Sorry guys!

Mitla96
11/09/2009 at 5:02 pm
Come on, guys, this isn’t high school. Ryan and his staff will ‘like’  Adam Lambert as long as they think they will be able to make money from him.

And BACK TO TOPIC, AdamAloha! I don’t know if you saw my earlier post, you need to get working on getting that concert to Hawaii! It’s a win, win for everyone!

Yikes! I must have missed your first post– no need to yell!!
I can hear you from all the way over here!!

I’ll get right on it. I must enlist tootheatrical and honowoowoo to help me.

who is headlining this? is it run by Idol? cause that would mean Kris Allen headlines for sure. But if it’s put together by Ryan outside of American Idol…would Adam headline?

As an Adam fan, I’m also turned off by the reaction of some of his fans. Why? Because it gives the fandom a bad name.

There’s no such thing as a collective unilateral mind when it comes to a fanbase, but fandoms do get a reputation. Think about it. Star Trek, Star Wars, Twilight. People from many ages, countries and cultures love them, but you can say that there are general actions and characteristics that defines them as a fandom.

I wish twitter was still that geek tool used for geeks only. It’s a shame to see people overusing it to pressure radio stations to play a certain artists, to send threats to poor guys like Sadao Turner who was clearly only trying to gain sympathy from a fandom he should have ignored long ago, to dismiss people as “jealous” just because they say something not so positive about their idol. IMHO, it’s ok if you don’t have a lot to do or if you have an Adam obsession/addiction/infatuation/whatever.

I just think that overall, some fellow fans forget the line between the freedom to express what they want and the respect for other people’s opinions and actions. I’ve sadly sensed a lot of disrespect for Allison, Sadao, Kris and Ryan from the few things I’ve read in the last minutes.

Twitter is not the devil. It’s an amazing, ingenious tool that takes a lot of effort to maintain and it’s not even monetazible right now. The real devil is this kind of behavior.

Cool for Kris, Allison and Adam. I’m sure they’ll enjoy to perform together after months of their solo careers.

It’s a nice chance that should be appreciated, I would pay anything to see them if I just had the time to fly to the USA, and of course, if it went right with my priorities.

‘Brussel Sprouts’ ’ ¦.

OMG do not hate on brussel sprouts! I luurve them.

hahaha, I actually love Brussels Sprouts too. But they were far enough from ice cream to make my point.

Maybe twitter users should be forced to use their real first and last names so they will own their own crazy. It might weed out a few!

I love that idea. But, then I think of all of those dancing fan videos on youtube, and I wonder if an entire generation of Americans have somehow been born without the embarassment gene.

And, basically, I think we all know that those OTT twitterers know exactly what we think of their inappropriate tweets. Their google alerts already notified them that there was a new Adam thread here I’m sure – and they’re lurking right now. And, reading all of this as we speak. They might not be registered users of MJ’s, so they’re sitting there quietly indignant – becase WE JUST DON’T UNDERSTAND. They’ve rationalized their behavior a thousand different ways, and had it validated by the other OTT fans.

There’s no way to stop the crazy fans. Adam, Kris and Allison just have to sell a lot of cd’s. That way, the music becomes the story, and not the fantards.

The Clay fan who has the fake website trying to fool people it’s you, do you just kind of shrug it off as a looney toon?

In the case of the fire ant people, that really was an anomaly. I have a good relationship with that particular fan group.

The Clay fan? She’s not alone. And sometimes, when you’ve been harassed by enough people from a particular fan group, it’s hard not to be left with some negative feelings.

I wouldn’t exactly call it blaming an entire fan group, however.

The rules say that the contest is for the contiguous 48 states and DC.

Nooooooooo! That is SO unfair! Hawaii gets screwed again! (except for being paradise, and having no daylight savings time, and the coolest people, etc…..)

Mitla

It’s truth. And you can find in on twitter if you want. I think it happened in the end of septemeber. I know Sadao, but never connected him with Idol. So when this story happened, it was very ugly.

I hope people realise that twitter is not a reliable source of info as anyone can say anything on there. I mean we learnt our lesson during the tour when someone wld tweet something, only for pictures and video to disprove it the next morning. and that’s after a lot of angsting and pulling of teeth.

Nooooooooo! That is SO unfair! Hawaii gets screwed again! (except for being paradise, and having no daylight savings time, and the coolest people, etc’ ¦..)

Hawaii and Alaska, always getting hosed. The consolation prize? Being two of the most breathtakingly beautiful places on earth. Not a bad deal, really.

4Msrmyn
11/09/2009 at 5:11 pm
The rules say that the contest is for the contiguous 48 states and DC.

Damn!! we get shafted again!! Going outside to cry under a palm tree on the beach, now.

Rub
I hope Alli is not in this gig, is not good for her. I can see mainstream media picking their favorites in their reviews ‘“ not to mention American Idol fans. She won’t gain any new fans. I say swap Danny for Alli.

LoveDaRocker :Interesting. But that would be no different than the tour, where even Kris was often second place for the critics.

Exactly

I think that if she goes outthere and rocks it out, it will be good for her, even if Adam and Kris attract the most attention.

It could be.
But lets face, AI fans are no different than any other fanatics. For instance, lets look at the NY Jet fans. Nothing is gonna make them change their minds; you can pull out records, standings, losing seasons, criminals, and it wont matter. Not gonna change their minds. They’ll never switch teams or adopt another team so long as the sun comes up. They’re set in their ways and they’ll never concede at the heart level.

What have we heard about Alli from non-fans? “I hate her twits, she has a diction problem, I hate her hand movement”…etc. During the tour, “why is a 17 yr old singing older material… she shows too much cleavage.” Now that she has FIBOU the responce is, “thats so Disney, its Miley.”

So it goes. All things considered, not a good gig for Alli. Its not her crowd. She squeezed the most out of the AI viewers for a best of 4th place. Frankly, finishing short in a competition with Danny and Kris and to a certain extent Adam, I am more than thrilled. Without insulting anybody, I would’ve been really upset had she win in middle america!
Earlier I said her future fans are not going to be in attendance at this jaunt. Allison has an entire different audience waiting to hear her music. An audience who gets a high on feeling the music, sound dynamics, some guitar riffs, chords with a little bit of distortion at the center. I can’t wait for her record, because writers and producers like Dilana, Ron Aniello and Howard Benson are gonna massage a little bit of rock at the core of Just Like You. FIBOU was just an introductory-foot-in-the-door piece.

Having said that, I think this gig could be fun. Original Material = has a nice sound to it.

Twitter is not the devil. It’s an amazing, ingenious tool that takes a lot of effort to maintain and it’s not even monetazible right now. The real devil is this kind of behavior.

Sorry, axl. I misplaced my tongue-in-cheek smiley.

For instance, lets look at the NY Jet fans. Nothing is gonna make them change their minds; you can pull out records, standings, losing seasons, criminals, and it wont matter.

Whoa now! Why we hatin’ on the Jets fans? Don’t we have it bad enough? We live with the Jets suckage year after year. Then, they’ll start a season off great with a bunch of wins. After a few games, the facade will come down, and we’ll realize that our quarterback cannot complete a pass to save his life and it will be another decade before we’re getting to the super bowl. Have we not been punished enough for you?

I’m a Jets fan who grew up in PA, so if we’re going to hate on random football fans for the sake of AI comparisons, I’d occasionally like for us to be hating on the Eagles fans, if that’s all right with you guys

ETA: Sorry – I forgot to mention – I adore Lava Girl (Allison). I think she’s fabulously awesome. And quite honestly, if this concert were coming to my area, I’d totally be there. These are the 3 people from Season 8 I would have wanted to see if I could have gone to the tour anyway. So, this event would totally work for me.

I have no doubt that some crazy fans say crazy sh*t, just like mj cited above about Season 5. Twitter only makes it worse.

But there seems to be a concerted effort by some folks, imo, (by citing random tweets), to paint Adam fans, collectively, as a bunch of out of control lunatics, aka ‘glamberts’ . It’s a smear tactic against Adam fans and ultimately against Adam. That’s my take on it.

How about the Kris fans that attacked Allison Porter when she simply tweeted the word “Yawn”? If I recall correctly, these fans wished she was raped and also made death threats. Who can forget all the nasty homophobic slurs made towards Adam from tweets during the summer tour?
Every season and every fandom has its crazies. Twitter just gives these crazies instant attention and very public voices. A few crazy fans are not a reflection on the whole fandom of any contestant of any AI season. Thank God!

SpenserJ: I’m a Jets fan who grew up in PA, so if we’re going to hate on random football fans for the sake of AI comparisons, I’d occasionally like for us to be hating on the Eagles fans, if that’s all right with you guys

LOL
I didn’t think there were any Jet fans in this joint. Sorry.
lol Lets jump all over the Eagles. I do admire Jets fans – hardcore 4sho. J-E-T-S.

To Adamaloha,

I went on Twitter and complained to Ryan Seacrest anyway, and IF you still want to enter, it will allow you to enter the contest, you just can’t win (I tried entering the Honolulu zip code!)

It’s not like they couldn’t afford to take them to Hawaii or Alaska-come on!

Mitla

Oooh, the Jets. Mark Sanchez. That guy just really does it for me, lol. Loved him with USC, love him now. Aren’t the Jets doing good this year?

And yeah- down with the Eagles ( Steelers fan in da house!)

How about the Kris fans that attacked Allison Porter when she simply tweeted the word ‘Yawn’ ? If I recall correctly, these fans wished she was raped and also made death threats

Forgot about that one! I remember that!

I didn’t think there were any Jet fans in this joint. Sorry.
lol Lets jump all over the Eagles. I do admire Jets fans ‘“ hardcore 4sho. J-E-T-S.

We’re like scientologists – steadfast in our delusions, and we pop up where you least expect us

My brother is the world’s biggest Cowboys fan (obviously, we needed a better elementary school geography teacher) so last night was sweet music to his ears.

It’s a smear tactic against Adam fans and ultimately against Adam. That’s my take on it.

I do not wish to smear Adam or his fans. I voted for Adam. Downloaded my copy of FYE from iTunes last week. I think he’s fabulous. But, I’ve been hanging around these parts since Season 5. And, I’ve seen it all before. Lots of shitty fan behavior from all of the different fandoms. Those of us who’ve been around this particular block a few times do just kind of get excasperated with it all. And, we tend to comment on it. It’s not our intention to insult the entire fandom. Sometimes I just wish that the lurkers who pull this crap (and I know you’re out there!) will see these posts and dial it the hell back.

All things considered, not a good gig for Alli. Its not her crowd.

We agree to disagree (because we are Alli fans and that’s how we roll).
Actually, think about this:
Alliholics: There is no indication that they wont enjoy Kris and Adam, so they’ll go for Alli, and Kradam will be a very good bonus (or they can leave early);
Glamberts and Kris fans: my guess is that they generally like Alli, so, even if there for for their guy, the’ll cheer for her;
Also, I am pretty sure she won’t close the show, so nobody will stand up to leave before she starts (which is a bit more offensive than getting there late).
Just because it would be weird otherwise, Adam’s set (or most of it) will go second. Captive audience for Alli! Glamberts would not risk getting there 1-minute late, so the’ll be there for most of Alli’s show, if not all.
“Luck is when preparation meets opportunity” If she prepares for this, she might come ahead of all.

The rules say that the contest is for the contiguous 48 states and DC.

Sigh . . . mitla96 and adamaloha — When have we ever heard about a product, an event, or even a toll-free number that didn’t end in the fateful words: ” . . . except Hawaii and Alaska?”

And here I was lamenting that we all didn’t have big ol’ mansions
to accommodate everyone from MJs and PF who would be willing to fly out for the concert! I mean seriously, if it wasn’t so far away and so expensive, I don’t think “Kradison” (sorry) or their fans would have objected to a Honolulu concert — especially in February!!! (And I wasn’t even being selfish and wanting it on Maui . . . altho we were good enough for the Dalai Lama!)

tootheatrical
11/09/2009 at 5:53 pm

The rules say that the contest is for the contiguous 48 states and DC.

Sigh . . . mitla96 and adamaloha ‘” When have we ever heard about a product, an event, or even a toll-free number that didn’t end in the fateful words: ‘  . . . except Hawaii and Alaska?’ 

. . . altho we were good enough for the Dalai Lama!)What is her genre?

Sigh . . . mitla96 and adamaloha ‘” When have we ever heard about a product, an event, or even a toll-free number that didn’t end in the fateful words: ‘  . . . except Hawaii and Alaska?’ 

I wrote the the managing editors of the Honolulu Star Bulletin and told them about it, and Sadao Turner and Ryan Seacrest. Grrrr!

They can’t disenfrancise the Hawaiians and the Alaskans in their 50th Anniversary Year!

(Plus, I just LOVE Hawaii

I think it would be better if they don’t go in order, mix it up a bit. Throw in some surprises.

ppwars
11/09/2009 at 5:56 pm

. . . altho we were good enough for the Dalai Lama!) What is her genre?

Huh? Don’t you mean “when did he ever have a hit record???”

tootheatrical,guess I meant to ask “what is her gender?”

Sometimes I just wish that the lurkers who pull this crap (and I know you’re out there!) will see these posts and dial it the hell back.

That would be nice. But, you do know the people who tweet death threats to Sadao and Allison Porter are not mature, level-headed fans? I would guess that these crazies do lurk on the blogs and probably enjoy the shit they stir up.

LoveDaRocker: We agree to disagree (because we are Alli fans and that’s how we roll).

Of Course.
Hey Allison has three gigs in December right? Whats the latest?
I can’t wait to see her sick-nasty band in action. Whats tomorrow you say? Snippets day!

Well, I wrote two Honolulu radio stations, the newspaper and the Hawaii visitors bureau, since I am NOT Hawaiian and not at all laid back! I’ll report back if I hear anything.

SpenserJ, I see what you’re saying, but I do think group think is an issue here. They feed off each other in those internet forums, and just a couple of people can influence the whole. Add to that the entitlement created by the voting system on the show, and you have a powder keg. That’s how you end up with craziness like the fireant thing.

The problem isn’t huge groups, it’s groups of around a dozen or so each that splinter off and create a spiral of crazy. The big groups tend to have members with perspective that keep everyone from going off the deep end (mjs, IDF, VFTW, ONTD)

Nothing surprises me anymore about Idol fans.

I personally don’t care what a small group of people with an entitlement complex think. I think this is great promotion for all of them. They all need it. If you don’t like it, don’t participate and don’t go. Adam will tour eventually, as will all of them. Sadao did his job, and had every right to expect people would like it.

I do agree though, Twitter is only speeding up Adam’s irrelevancy. The more people harp about him to the influential, the less they think of him. And Perez is right, he’s not selling well. Whether you like it or not. Hopefully his video will do for him what Kris’ did, and spark sales.

The key is understanding that sales don’t matter, but since these fanbases are built on a competition, I’m not sure many can grasp that on a fundamental level. That’s true for all Idol fanbases.

ppwars
11/09/2009 at 6:06 pm
tootheatrical,guess I meant to ask ‘what is her gender?’ 

Uh, still not getting the “her” in genre or gender . . . (Am I missing something? )

this is the first time i read that he is not selling well.he is not selling well? how come, hes album is not available yet.pre order he is outselling everyone, now not selling well?im very surprised.

well,there are pipol freaking out about adam. i dnt know if its adam’s fans or other fans…wait until hes album is release then that we can say if dat is true..

SpenserJ, I see what you’re saying, but I do think group think is an issue here. They feed off each other in those internet forums, and just a couple of people can influence the whole. Add to that the entitlement created by the voting system on the show, and you have a powder keg. That’s how you end up with craziness like the fireant thing.

We are in complete agreement here. What I meant was that the overall group isn’t what people think it is. The forum people are a completely different animal, that is indeed afflicted with the group think – and wrongly believes that it is representative of the entire fandom.

Allison is like a raw diamond, getting polished. This exposure would be good for her IF she wants it. It seems she is very comfortable with the guys. It would well be worth having all three. I cannot get into Danny, though. Sorry.

this is the first time i read that he is not selling well.he is not selling well? how come, hes album is not available yet.pre order he is outselling everyone, now not selling well?im very surprised.

His single is not selling to expectations. I don’t mean fan expectations, I mean industry/ label. Yes, we are assuming, but Perez probably isn’t. He’s a giant flaming turd, but the guy still has connections to the musical pulse, sadly. He trotted it out in such a way that makes me think he was probably overheard it somewhere. Everything is about impressions, and if the impression is that Adam isn’t selling well, then he isn’t.

For reference, Kris was doing about the same at this point, and Allison is doing a lot worse. It’s just that I don’t think the expectations for initial sales was as high for them. The labels knew they’d have to work harder. Kris’ seem to be picking up now that his video is out, but it’s all guesswork at this stage.

I would personally love it if they all went platinum and had great success, but only one of the three has a portion of their fanbase that seems to be hellbent on sabotaging him or her out of misguided actions. Fans have a place, but it seems that some don’t know what their place is here. Not the first time it happened, won’t be the last.

No need to comment on the trend of late…back to original topic:
I think a ‘one off’ concert w/ all three is a fun contest idea.
The concert is not until February 2010 (official rules) so it’s great PR for all of them. February is a usual lull for idols because the new season is in full swing.
Maybe the proceeds will even go to charity, who knows.
Basically a fun concept that can hurt no one and maybe bring joy to the winner(s).
It’s all good.

Hey guys- don’t see it here but FYE is on the move- it’s at #65

We are in complete agreement here. What I meant was that the overall group isn’t what people think it is. The forum people are a completely different animal, that is indeed afflicted with the group think ‘“ and wrongly believes that it is representative of the entire fandom.

True, but like I said before, impressions are pretty influential.

I’ve always wondered why Idol fans don’t treat it like some sci-fi fans do. Overturn the crazy by creating good. Good product, good actions (charity having nothing to do with their Beloved), good behavior. The negative can be shown to be the minority.

its is just first single, and not promoted yet, maybe everthing will get better after AMA performance and once the album is release. wat im thinking why he is not promoting it dat much now, nov 23rd getting near.

I do agree though, Twitter is only speeding up Adam’s irrelevancy. The more people harp about him to the influential, the less they think of him.

Nah, no more than twitter is speeding up the irrelevancy of Michael Jackson, Mariah Carey, or “Twilight”. You want to talk about some hard-core fandoms…

“The influential” get emails and tweets from far more fans from MUCH BIGGER fandoms than Adam Lambert.

Allison is like a raw diamond, getting polished. This exposure would be good for her IF she wants it. It seems she is very comfortable with the guys. It would well be worth having all three.

Not that I disagree, but what makes her more raw than Kris or Adam? Her age?

Nah, no more than twitter is speeding up the irrelevancy of Michael Jackson, Mariah Carey, or ‘Twilight’ . You want to talk about some hard-core fandoms’ ¦

Oh, I totally agree! Although I would argue MJ was irrelevant to the masses a long time ago.

I’m not excluding anyone here. I’m just saying that, of this year’s Idol crop, Adam’s fans are the most…passionate, but in a negative way.

i just figured it out dat maybe this week is really given to kris allen dats y adam is somewhat not active for news right now. giving him the time to shine also, while adam is olredy shining. then the following week it sill adam’s week. and i really think dat we are in for a surprise…just waiting for that.

“Sour pineapples” aside . . . I’m like a lot of you and don’t really “get” this concert idea. Yes, good PR, good tie in to Ryan and hopefuly other radio stations (in potential concert cities), and fun to see the three of them together again, but who has a “reunion tour” after only 5 months? And as others have already pointed out — the performance comparisons, not to mention the pecking order and minutes-per-set calculations, are just going to open up old wounds.

The “in lieu of payola” scenario seems most likely to me: By having the fans rally in different cities, that area’s affiliated radio station can piggie-back the publicity (get people to vote by playing the singles). That would generate buzz and boost record sales so by the time the concert came around in Feb, it would be a win-win for all involved.

But these three have the potential to do that on their own by next year anyway so I still think there’s something about this concept that we’re not getting and they’re not telling.

Reminder:

Don’t complain about the blog or the posters here. No blog on blog talk, please.

I was on iTunes, a few minutes ago, but everytime I clicked on Adam’s single FYE, the following message popped up : Your request could not be completed. The item you’ve requested is not currently available in the US store.

It only does that for FYE. The other songs by Adam are available for purchase. How strange is that?

Nah, no more than twitter is speeding up the irrelevancy of Michael Jackson, Mariah Carey, or ‘Twilight’ . You want to talk about some hard-core fandoms’ ¦

‘The influential’  get emails and tweets from far more fans from MUCH BIGGER fandoms than Adam Lambert.

Half the crap that’s blown out of proportion one day is forgotten the next. Sadao has moved on so has most everyone else who was a bit annoyed earlier. Adam’s career will not come to an end because of a few hotheaded fans.

vimana
11/09/2009 at 8:05 pm
I was on iTunes, a few minutes ago, but everytime I clicked on Adam’s single FYE, the following message popped up : Your request could not be completed. The item you’ve requested is not currently available in the US store.

It only does that for FYE. The other songs by Adam are available for purchase. How strange is that?

I just tried it, too, with the same results. Wonder what’s up? Probably another glitch. Don’t worry, programs sometimes go a little wacky. I’m sure Itunes is aware of it. I’m sure it’ll be fixed in a bit. Try again later, or download from AO.

HotHotHot
11/09/2009 at 1:37 pm
Ugh! I hate Kradam and was hoping to never see them on the same show again!
I agree with this statement. I feel Kris and Allison have ridden the coat tails of Adam enough from the tour. Now let them be on there own. People want to see Adam on his solo tour.

erinnthered
11/09/2009 at 7:19 pm
I’m just saying that, of this year’s Idol crop, Adam’s fans are the most’ ¦passionate, but in a negative way.

Thank you for that. Anyhew …

His single is not selling to expectations. I don’t mean fan expectations, I mean industry/ label. Yes, we are assuming, but Perez probably isn’t. He’s a giant flaming turd, but the guy still has connections to the musical pulse, sadly. He trotted it out in such a way that makes me think he was probably overheard it somewhere.

Actually, I think you are assuming and I’m not willing to make the leap that Perez has his finger on the pulse of the music industry. I don’t think, for example, Perez had any idea that Adam’s single was sold exclusively on AO initially or that iTunes had a bit of a hiccup that week or that Adam has done literally zero promotion except for the spot on Ryan’s show. I suspect Perez gets “tips” from various people with their own agenda and he knows any item posted with Adam’s name will generate hits to his blog and comments from readers, both of which accrue to his benefit. As far as industry/label expectations go, it seems RCA and Jive work a bit differently, with RCA focused more on album sales. I, for one, plan to wait until Adam’s album has been out for awhile (as opposed to one week after the release of his first single) before I speculate on whether or not he’s met, exceeded or fallen short of RCA/19′s expectations.

De-lurking after many months and many an enjoyable evening at MJS

My first thought when seeing this thread is YEA tour thread night at MJS, will we get a crappy underwater cell cast, and a twitter feed? Elvis or emo hair, will Kris be in plaid, will Allison have that fan blowing her amazing hair, and most important will we get video? All three are great performers and I for one can’t wait!

well so far the Boston area has 156 votes

EAT: NYC is leading with 292 votes

Half the crap that’s blown out of proportion one day is forgotten the next. Sadao has moved on so has most everyone else who was a bit annoyed earlier. Adam’s career will not come to an end because of a few hotheaded fans.

It’s thinking like that that’s hurting him. Sadao is not going to forget the death threats, and the crazies no matter how much you wish he would. Look at mj and the fire ant story. The damage is done. The best thing you can do for Adam is reverse this trend and show how not all his big fans are like that. And that doesn’t mean spamming Sadao’s Twitter with apologies.

I hope this concert does good things for all of them. Could be pretty big, if this is “for the city.” I mean, more than likely a large city will win, and they’ll need a nice sized park or area to put this on. Vendors, etc. They’ll all have lots of merch by then. Could be good revenue for lots of people.

ETA: Welcome to the madness, newinNM

It’s thinking like that that’s hurting him. Sadao is not going to forget the death threats, and the crazies no matter how much you wish he would. Look at mj and the fire ant story. The damage is done. The best thing you can do for Adam is reverse this trend and show how not all his big fans are like that. And that doesn’t mean spamming Sadao’s Twitter with apologies.

I seriously think you are over thinking this.

Hey, doesn’t anyone care that Danny was left out of the concert?

I just tried it, too, with the same results. Wonder what’s up? Probably another glitch. Don’t worry, programs sometimes go a little wacky. I’m sure Itunes is aware of it. I’m sure it’ll be fixed in a bit. Try again later, or download from AO.

After you buy so many they wont let you.Go buy other places adam needs your bread.

After you buy so many they wont let you.Go buy other places adam needs your bread.

I know you are trying to be funny, but that’s not the case – I got the same glitch when I tried to buy it last week, I had to wait awhile and try again later.

Hey, doesn’t anyone care that Danny was left out of the concert?

Not really. He’s not managed by the same people they are and I don’t think his music is very compatible to their’s.

Squirrely
11/09/2009 at 9:05 pm
After you buy so many they wont let you.Go buy other places adam needs your bread.

I know you are trying to be funny, but that’s not the case ‘“ I got the same glitch when I tried to buy it last week, I had to wait awhile and try again later.

How many you buying i can buy them and sell them to you.I got 1 allison tune so i can buy some of adam’s.What is funny is peeps asking why they cant buy more.If you think that will make adam a STAR keep buying.He really needs it.LOOK AT SUSAN BOYLE.

PRMari – is Puerto Rico an option in this contest?

As an Allison fan I take issue in her being compared to Brussel Sprouts (vs. Adam being compared to ice cream). It should be Radish (for the colors of her CD cover), or Tomato (for her hair), or better yet Chili (for her hotness and spicyness!)

I know you are trying to be funny

trying is the key word here

Hey, doesn’t anyone care that Danny was left out of the concert?

no.

After you buy so many they wont let you.Go buy other places adam needs your bread.

Thanks, steve, for the advice, LOL , but I’ve only bought FYE and TMF once each — from Amazon. I clicked on the Itunes icon to see if the issue was real. Looks like it is.

Squirelly: Puerto Rico can’t be an option because it is not in the contiguos states… but surely PRMari did enter the Puerto Rico vote…

How many you buying i can buy them and sell them to you

I bought one last week but I had trouble trying to purchase it, that was my point. I was not multi buying, Adam is not on my payroll.

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LOOK AT SUSAN BOYLE.

She is hot on the Amazon chart! Perhaps you should retype that to say “look at Susan boil!”

As an Allison fan I take issue in her being compared to Brussel Sprouts (vs. Adam being compared to ice cream). It should be Radish (for the colors of her CD cover), or Tomato (for her hair), or better yet Chili (for her hotness and spicyness!)

Allison doesnt owe jive for the lies of songs she didnt have out.Adam rolled the dices he got caught.The record compamy(RCA)wants a return.They will drop him like on a dime.Allison is 17 and has time to slow roll her dice.

thanks roquemocan, oh and I love brussell sprouts… but Allison is more of a tight tomato, or as my friend would say tite tomata

Allison doesnt owe jive for the lies of songs she didnt have out.Adam rolled the dices he got caught.The record compamy(RCA)wants a return.They will drop him like on a dime.Allison is 17 and has time to slow roll her dice.

I have no idea what you are going on about

erinnhered, I was trying to locate the article from Perez talking about Adam not selling to expectations, would you help me out and direct me to the article. Thank you. I hope he is wrong but you mentioned his insider information he gets so that is worrisome.

I have no idea what you are going on about

i couldn’t have said it better myself…

luvadamlambert
11/09/2009 at 9:31 pm
I have no idea what you are going on about

i couldn’t have said it better myself’ ¦

Young grasshopper adam sold his soul to HI FI.Those songs were bought off by RCA.Rca has a short leash on adam.Now he pays and every adam hardcore fan pays.Math is easy

Puerto Rico is not an option but San Juan was there in the menu so I still did it

tootheatrical
11/09/2009 at 6:28 pm

ppwars
11/09/2009 at 6:06 pm
tootheatrical,guess I meant to ask ‘what is her gender?’ 

Uh, still not getting the ‘her’  in genre or gender . . . (Am I missing something?

it is ALL a bad series of jokes….oops, yours was prety good.

It’s thinking like that that’s hurting him. Sadao is not going to forget the death threats, and the crazies no matter how much you wish he would. Look at mj and the fire ant story. The damage is done. The best thing you can do for Adam is reverse this trend and show how not all his big fans are like that. And that doesn’t mean spamming Sadao’s Twitter with apologies.

I seriously think you are over thinking this.

I do too! Do you not think Ryan and other DJs around the country have heard from a handful of crazies from different fandoms? Have they written off popular, hot artists because of the emails or tweets of a few fans? I’m willing to bet their playlists would be awfully short if they only played the musical acts with fandoms that were 100% sane and rational.
EVERY artist has their crazy fans. I’m sure most people in the entertainment industry know this. Their decisions have more to do with how much money they can make off a musical act vs. their perceptions of the artist’s fans.

Young grasshopper adam sold his soul to HI FI.Those songs were bought off by RCA.Rca has a short leash on adam.Now he pays and every adam hardcore fan pays.Math is easy

oh forgive him, he had a life before AI – how dare he :/

Squirrely
11/09/2009 at 9:44 pm
Young grasshopper adam sold his soul to HI FI.Those songs were bought off by RCA.Rca has a short leash on adam.Now he pays and every adam hardcore fan pays.Math is easy

oh forgive him, he had a life before AI ‘“ how dare he :/

WHY LIE ABOUT IT?

WHY LIE ABOUT IT?

What lie? He said it was session work. But seriously what does it matter at this point – I don’t get how fans are suffering.

WHY LIE ABOUT IT?

What lie? He said it was session work. But seriously what does it matter at this point ‘“ I don’t get how fans are suffering.

Squirrely, I think you have to have a certain mindset, to understand what he’s saying. I haven’t figured it out yet.

Allison doesnt owe jive for the lies of songs she didnt have out.Adam rolled the dices he got caught.The record compamy(RCA)wants a return.They will drop him like on a dime.Allison is 17 and has time to slow roll her dice

Hey steve UR beaten’ a dead horse to death, that issue is in the category of ancient history! BTW RCA sure spent a lot of money on Adam, seems like he got everything he asked for, or even hinted at or dreamed of while working on his CD. Seems like they would have said a big fat NO to him if they were planning on dropping him.

Have you been hanging around the leader of the Cheerios on Glee? (JUST KIDDING IT”S A FREE COUNTRY!!!, Peace out!)

I am a huge Adam Lambert fan. This is the first time I have been interested enough in an idol to search him out on the internet, follow AI blogs etc. I love his music, and listening to his voice makes me happy.

I am not going to worry and fret myself silly about his single or his album. Adam is incredibly talented. He drew large crowds on the AI tour, and reviewers loved him for the most part. That seemed to create a lot of hype- some people loved him and developed unrealistic over the top expectations for him, while others who were not fans ( not on this blog, but in the general population,) seemed to hate him even more because of all that hype – and sometimes now seem to be rooting for him to fail and fall flat on his face. Obviously, the reality for Adam, or any of these new artists, is that he will likely fall somewhere in the middle of those two extremes.

I am hopeful that Adam has been around long enough that he doesn’t buy into the OTT media/fan-warring hype at either end of the spectrum, and that he is able to keep centered in the middle of all of this extremism on both sides and just pay attention to making the best music that he can.

As he said before, the fact that people love what he does and hate what he does means that they are paying attention. If he stays true to who he is, as Cavallo advised, and continues to work hard and develop his vision and his talent, then he will have the best chance for longevity. Like Cavallo, I believe he will be able to pull that off.

The fact is, the cat is out of the bag. Many people inside and outside of the music industry have now heard his voice, love it, and recognize his talent and gifts.

Adam is in charge of moving his career along. He has plenty of drive, is a hard worker, a quick learner, and a true risk taker. Sometimes he will hit and sometimes he will miss, but he will keep working at moving himself along. After all, that is why he made the decision to go on AI. He realized some great opportunities from that experience and picked up some baggage with the decision as well, and he will figure out what to do from here on in and how to deal with it all.

I think that in five years, you will still know who Adam Lambert is. I think that I will still be a huge fan and will still be listening to his music. I love Adam’s single, by the way, but I am not going to drive myself crazy worrying about it, how it does, what the numbers are etc., although, of course, I will be glad if it does well.

I have decided I am just going to sit back and enjoy what he gives me, yes, over and over again, mainly feeling glad that he is, as he says, putting it out there for my entertainment.

Young grasshopper adam sold his soul to HI FI.Those songs were bought off by RCA.Rca has a short leash on adam.Now he pays and every adam hardcore fan pays.Math is easy

Math is my favorite, but I would like to see prove that those songs were bought off by RCA… If RCA bought the songs from HI FI they won’t put the songs back in the market with that demo quality. They will lock them or even destroy the master demos so noboby will release these songs anywere. But few weeks ago these songs … Want/December/On With the Snow are showing up again on amazon.com under 2 different labels… so definitely RCA doesn’t care about HI FI .. or coldwater.. or.. whatever labels that own those songs now.

Adam’s fans are the most’ ¦passionate, but in a negative way.

Funny you say that ETR. Since experiencing “the summer of 05″ (season 5) first hand and coming out of it with my own cyberstalkers I know the ugly side of fandom. And I’m a nobody! I can’t imagine what someone who is viewed as an “insider” goes through.

It took me this long to dip my toe into the AI waters again but I made a strict rule that the only place I would read is MJ’s. No AI board, no VFTW, no fan boards, no nothing.

So, all of that bla bla bla just to say that I don’t have a clue what is being said about Adam or Kris anywhere else, but it doesn’t surprise me to read here posts telling people not to spam radio station or Tweet accounts.

I totally agree with you that it a small sub group of fans that do things to make us all look like nuts, but you said it in the nicest possible way and I did not.

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I’m still laughing at the idea that Ryan’s producer is “using” the Adam Lambert fanbase. Maybe that’s why I don’t understand what’s going on. No disrespect but KISS and Ryan can make songs hits. They’re pretty influential you know.

I think subpar sales for all three of the S8 singles (so far) is behind this concert. Currently they ALL need all the promo they can get.

Holy cow. Y’all are nuts! The song just got released last week! Remember all the times we kept saying you can’t call Kris’ song yet, its too early? The same applies here. Its too early. You gotta give this a few weeks, then you’ll have a better idea what’s up. His promo run is just around the corner too, the album drops soon. Just chill!

Young grasshopper adam sold his soul to HI FI.Those songs were bought off by RCA.Rca has a short leash on adam.Now he pays and every adam hardcore fan pays.Math is easy

Interesting…maybe. Everyone around here already knows he worked with a label before Idol, so you’ll have to do better than that.

RCA paid them off? Why, and if so, how is it that their CD is still coming out? Adam told RCA those songs were his? Be specific. What’s your source? Some blog you read? Your own delusion?

cayman, don’t worry about it. The link is up thread. If you aren’t already familiar enough with Perez, it really doesn’t mean anything to you or your love of Adam.

Hey, doesn’t anyone care that Danny was left out of the concert?

I care….because it makes me laugh every time. Sorry Danny fans, you guys generally rock.

Meanwhile I’ll be one of those rare people excited about this concert. Yes I know, not outside the Idol bubble, need to be their own artists, yadda, but I like all three artists and think they’re alll good performers and personally I would enjoy going to a concert with just the three of them, or them and whomever else. I missed the summer tour, darn it, and so if they’re near-ish by, like even on my coast or the Midwest, I’d so like to got see them.

As for bad fans Tweeting, annoying, but not unexpected. Eh, every fanbase has them and I yes, I wish that for my faves, they’re all shut up. Oh wells.

erinnhered, thank you, you are correct, it will not change my love of Adam. I do enjoy reading everyones post here, your different perspectives are very interesting, this is the first year I have followed an idol, only Adam. I find it interesting how success is measured in this industry, song out less than one week and is considered a failure is amazing, I am starting to feel sorry for these artists, the pressure to succeed must be at time unbearable. They must truly love what they are doing when they decide to create music. I hope he does well enough to get making albums, I happen to love his voice no matter what he sings.

How many you buying i can buy them and sell them to you.I got 1 allison tune so i can buy some of adam’s.What is funny is peeps asking why they cant buy more

Wut? People here seem to have only bought one copy, but upon hearing about this, were testing out in their own iPods and finding the same glitch. It’s not a question of buying multiple copies or of Adam’s session work demos being bought off or anything like that. This is part of glitches in iTunes for Adam since last Wednesday at least, maybe last Tuesday when it wasn’t added for the whole day. Who knows? other than that another day, more iTunes glitches. And that’s all that Adam fans were testing.

That being said, vis-a-vis Perez and his Tweet, yes, I do think that FYE has had disappointing sales thus far with iTunes (glitchy or not…I mean GROOVY it won’t even let people in the US purchase it, that’ll help sales) and no idea about Amazon or AO, but to assume they were use is well, you know what they say when you assume. So I think it’s best not to. So that being said, I while I personally am looking forward to a Kradison concert, I agree, it’s NOT what Adam needs right now in terms of promotion of his single and his solo work. I can see why Adam fans would be frustrated by the lack of promotion by RCA right now for Adam to support his single in advance of his AMA appearance, and so in the scheme of that, not be thrilled with this news. I agree that I would like to hear some much better stuff set up for Adam and stat! but taking it out on the messanger is stoopid and it sucks for the non-crazy fans if some cray-cray ones did that. Or people posing as cray-cray Adam fans, because those exist out there too. Oy, the interwebz is full of crazy people with access to keyboards.

I love Adam, love his music, and am excited for his future. Allison, Kris and Adam don’t have to be the biggest stars in the world to have successful careers. As long as they make music they love and entertain their fans, it’s all good.

I don’t understand the reason for bringing A, A & K back together for a concert, but if it’s only a one-time deal, no biggie.

It’s Time for Miracles… our country, not just fandom, is a country of extreme views, right, left, red, blue, adam, kris, etc.

but like the song says, “I ain’t given up on love…”

And I never will!

Meanwhile, do you suppose the poster many comments upthread had the Dali Lama confused with Demi Lovato? Just a thought

I think it’s far too soon to judge the success of any of these three, give them some time.

I find it interesting how success is measured in this industry, song out less than one week and is considered a failure is amazing, I am starting to feel sorry for these artists, the pressure to succeed must be at time unbearable. They must truly love what they are doing when they decide to create music. I hope he does well enough to get making albums, I happen to love his voice no matter what he sings.

That’s such a wonderful perspective, and nice to hear.

Yeah, it’s sad that that kind of thing can have an effect, but it can. It can be overcome, but it can be difficult. Something can make a record label money and produce multiple singles, but still be considered a failure. Conversely, something can lose money and be a success. As long as you’re doing what you love, and have people who love what you do it doesn’t really matter.

So far, as a fan, I’m just happy I actually like both Kris and Adam’s albums enough to want to buy them. That hasn’t been the case in the past.

revcat
11/09/2009 at 10:51 pm

Meanwhile, do you suppose the poster many comments upthread had the Dali Lama confused with Demi Lovato? Just a thought

THANK you Revcat! I’m the one that mentioned the Dalai Lama appearing on Maui and actually thot that very same thing — except I couldn’t remember the other DL name!!!! And as I said in response, I wasn’t getting the reference cos the Dalai Lama didn’t even have a hit record!

THANK you Revcat!

UR welcome

I find it interesting how success is measured in this industry, song out less than one week and is considered a failure is amazing, I am starting to feel sorry for these artists, the pressure to succeed must be at time unbearable.

Don’t worry, cayman. No one considers this song a failure after one week. Perez is a misinformed douchebag who is looking for hits on his blog. And he’s one guy, lol. Certainly not the “industry.”

How come VFTW is saying the purpose of this contest is for Allison and Kris to help save Adam. Do they really hate Adam that much? Whats their beef with people liking him?

How come VFTW is saying the purpose of this contest is for Allison and Kris to help save Adam. Do they really hate Adam that much? Whats their beef with people liking him?

yup, they hate him that much…they hate everything he sings, does, wears, says…they are completely insane (and ignore reality)…just don’t go over there

Seacrest’s producer knew that he was ‘using’  Mr. Lambert’s fans by tweeing about upcoming ‘big news’ . Another round of American Idol duets like We Are Champions and Don’t Stop Believing is not something that is likely to be considered ‘big news’ . Seacrest’s producer knew that. The deception was pre-meditated. That’s fine, but so is giving the guy some grief over it. He’s a big boy. He knew it would be coming.

If this response and reaction isn’t in the idol bubble, I don’t know what is. LOL. Of course YMMV.