In the latest American Idol 12 promo, Randy Jackson calls American Idol the “gold standard” of singing competitions and then follows up his statement with a namechecks a few of the show’s shing stars.

“This show has truly permeated the whole world of entertainment.” Randy says in his typical hyperbolic fashion.

“We are the original,” he boasts, “We are the Picasso. You can try to copy, but never duplicate.”

Well. He’s got a point.

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  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    As for the 50mm WW for Christina, if you take that at face value then you have to take the 70mm WW for Shakira and the 90mm WW for Britney

    That’s fine by me. Yay for Shakira, Britney and Christina!  

    I still don’t know what this has to do with the OP’s comparison of Kelly and Christina and my comment that followed. The original comment was about the importance of being “relevant” when comparing Kelly and Christina. There never was a comparison or any kind of ~contest mentioned between the three you have posted about. I’m not sure what this information has to do with the OP or with my response to that post.

    Good for all three of these amazing artists you listed, they are the definitions of Worldwide Superstars!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    I may be in the minority with this opinion here on the blog but I think that most people who watch AI don’t really care how many albums that guy from last season sold.

    They DON’T CARE AT ALL, which makes this whole discussion here absurdly ridiculous. LMFAO.

    Idol won’t conquer a single viewer because Home sold 3 million copies.

  • blackberryharvest

    A lot of people do care, all the time I will hear people say “American Idol sucks now, nobody does anything after the show!” And then they go on and watch The Voice LOL.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    I don’t hear anyone saying that stopped watching the show just because there are unsuccessful winners, but if you hear, good for you. 

  • http://twitter.com/tinawinabina Tinawina

    A lot of people do care, all the time I will hear people say “American
    Idol sucks now, nobody does anything after the show!” And then they go
    on and watch The Voice LOL.

    LMAO Exactly. When I first started watching this show I did it in part because I moved away from home, and all my fam & friends back there were watching. It gave us something to talk about. But now almost all of them say that, even the few who still watch.

    Season 9 I was living in Ohio not far from where a few of the contestants were raised, and Idol came up a lot that year in casual convo. I heard a ton of “what’s the point, those people go on to be nobodies, what ever happened to whatshisname anyway”.. and “who watches that corny show anymore, the wrong people always win”. blah blah blah. Once I was sitting in a grad class and one guy said he knew Lee and was watching to root for him, and the whole class looked at him like he grew 3 heads. LMAO.

    Not to mention, every year the media speculates on whether the latest winner can “revive the show” and “make it relevant again”.

    Even my MIL, who still watches, complains that “they only make stars out of Kelly Clarkson, Tamyra was way better but they didn’t back her right, they still buy hits for Kelly”. (Umm.. what?)

    I think its silly but there are people who care. But no I don’t think they’d come back if Idol did produce a new big lasting star frankly. But that doesn’t matter.. the lack of a newer crop of actual lasting stars just contributes to the idea that the show is corny and passe, and the alums are not actually talented.

  • justmefornow

    Ding! Ding! Ding! Give that man a prize!. Exactly!
    (That’s why they call it “the bubble”) lol

    Most people don’t give a sh*t at all.

  • Blou38

    Love it that all of my favorite Idols are listed.*heart*

  • mchcat

    I think the Idol tour gives all the top 10 the chance to hone performance skills.  They learn how to sing to an audience, not a tv camera, move, meet and greet, time management, and many more that I couln’t even guess at. 

  • Incipit

    Perception of the show…OK, that’s a wide field – but what I hear isn’t about what contestants do afterwards; with few exceptions, no one cares…they forget about them all when the season is over. People just want to be entertained with interesting approaches to the songs and good vocals. They also prefer when judges actually ‘judge’.

    The complaint lately, and the reason I don’t watch Idol on TV anymore either, is that the contestants don’t do anything “cool” anymore…people outside the Bubble don’t see that Idol has moved to casting children very young people without giving them good songs to chose from, songs one could believe coming out of their mouths, and has clamped down on the control factor, so the creative moments are scarce to none – they just byotch about the kids who are too young to know what they are singing about, and the song choices with no surprises in the bunch.

    Generalizations, perhaps – but I can’t argue with that – I feel essentially the same way.

  • fantoo1

    I think a lot of the young contestants over the years(and even the past few years) have been talented AND sound believable when they sing-someone like Scotty or Jessica can definitely sell a song. I also think there was more “creativity” this last season compared to 10. Jimmy doesn’t have as much influence on the songs/creativity as people seem to think. It’s hard to please the haters/complainers, really.

  • http://twitter.com/tinawinabina Tinawina

    I have to admit I have never once heard “the contestants are too young.” in RL. But you did remind me of the major bitchfests I forgot in my corner of the beyond the blogosphere world: “The show sucks without Simon/the judges are too nice”. Heh.

    Anyway, back to my main point.

    I have no faith that any of these people will have a career that lasts beyond one successful album era. I would like to be pleasantly surprised by Interscope, however. I think the show will continue to be the “kinda corny karaoke show ” for the forseeable future. The end.

  • blackberryharvest

    For all those people who claim they miss Simon, the ratings on the X Factor sure haven’t proved that…

    I don’t think there’s no reason for them not to build a successful career outside of the first album-it all depends on if the label, management, radio, and fans are willing to put their work and energy to make them happen. I am impressed with Scotty’s new management so far.

  • mchcat

    Scotty’s video came out today – Christmas Coming Around Again.

  • Incipit

    These are not “haters/complainers” fantoo1, they aren’t all that invested in AI – they are people who used to watch the show to be entertained, and they don’t anymore, because they are not entertained. Those are the reasons they give me.

    Tinawina, I suppose it would depend on the ages of one’s circle of friends, family or acquaintances, whether they would find the show less interesting with the recent tendency to cast youngsters…I don’t have any teens or twenty somethings around to ask…the people I did ask didn’t buy what the kids were selling. They don’t know from Jimmy’s influence – they just react to what they saw on TV, and they were disinterested with what they saw.

    But isn’t that exactly what Idol wanted? The point was to try to cater to a different audience with that casting, yes? Well, I can report mission accomplished with plenty of people I know. Even my youngest sister said she served her time at the nieces’ and nephews’ Talent Shows.

    Just a report on Perceptions of the Show in a small corner of the audience.

  • wordnerdarchie

    In regards to Hispanics and race, it has always been my understanding that it’s listed separately because they were an ethnic minority in the US and that there were many government programs that are relevant for them.  This also explains why there’s the separate listing on college applications as well.  The explanation given for listing it separately on the census form:

    Since the 1970 Census, the questionnaire has asked U.S. residents
    whether they are of Hispanic origin, and if so, which broad Hispanic
    group they identify with.  Hispanic origin is considered separately from race in the Census—and
    Hispanics may identify with any race. As the largest and fastest-growing
    ethnic minority in the United States, the information about Hispanic
    origin is of growing importance. It is used in numerous programs and for
    monitoring equal employment opportunities.

    http://www.prb.org/Articles/2009/questionnaire.aspx

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “But Randy is always a bit much, as spokesperson…maybe Andy Warhol instead of Picasso? *snerk*”

    lol I think that Warhol is even too hyperbolic. How about Thomas Kinkade? *bigger snerk*

  • http://twitter.com/bagel08 John S

    Its the other way around, the Voice is jealous of idol lol. Not all of the things idol does is about the Voice.

  • teekee

    Yes. Count me among the viewers who simply want to be entertained. While I am always happy when alums do well post show, their successes or failures don’t affect my enjoyment of the show. Never have I voted for someone because I thought they were going to be a star. For me it’s about what happens on the TV stage. It really is just television for me.

    BTW, when I say entertained, I don’t mean joke contestants. I’m talking real talents, bringing it to the stage to entertain me.

  • glennethph

    Star Search.

  • MollyAnnMay

    tinawina:But I do believe Jordin, Cook and Adam got a fair amount of support from Sony. But it is possible Sony was just not as good at it as Interscope, since RCA/Sony did pick some horrific singles.

    Sony/RCA got away with their crap A&Ring of Idol contestants and incredible tin ear for the type of singles that would help them succeed during the 1st era of most of their Idol signees because they were getting a free ride off contestants’ Idol popularity, which disguised what a piss poor job they did as a label. You’d think there’d be nowhere for RCA to hide during a 2nd era featuring their usual bad single choices, but oh, hey look, there they are, crouching behind the Idol contestants they screwed over, who got all the blame instead. ob topic, IMO Idol has a right to brag because they are simply a launching pad. Their part of the star-making machinery has functioned pretty well over the years, in a way that has not happened for the other shows, as yet. But after Idol, it’s up to the contestant, their management and most of all, the label, to be sure the platform provided by Idol gets something built on it that is sturdy and lasting and not a house of cards. Honestly, the best thing that has happened to Idol contestants is that Sony/RCA didn’t re-up with Idol. From what I’ve read here, I’ve come to think that post-Clive they had *zero* interest in the contestants and certainly no interest in A&Ring them correctly. They not only didn’t fight the creeping Idol cheese factor, they doubled down on it.In contrast, tinawina, I think it was you that noted that Interscope A&R’d the hell out of P2′s album. (If it wasn’t you, I apologize, but I do agree with whoever said that.) *That’s* how you make successful music artists, if you’re a major label. It’s hard work and requires commitment, investment and not only paying attention to the kind of music that is most authentic for the artist in question, but pushing that music forward in a way that best represents the artist. I don’t think Sony/RCA could be bothered to do any of those things, and it showed in their latter day, 2nd era bottom lines.

    tinawina: But then again Scotty’s singles were cringe worthy too.

    Sure, for his 1st era. But he was a popular winner, not saddled with a cover, at least, for his 1st single, and he rode the 1st era equation (bad singles + “fair” promo + free buzz + invested fans + casual fans + souvenir collectors = good sales) just fine. But he hasn’t had his 2nd era yet (where he, like all of them, loses the free buzz + casual fans + souvenir collectors part of the equation). (No, Christmas albums don’t count, IMO, as a 2nd era, though the buzz from one *might* compensate for a loss of free  Idol buzz. Didn’t work for Archie, but we’ll see. From what I’ve read, Scotty may have helped his chances for long-term success by the kind of touring he’s done more than by the Christmas album.)If Interscope recognizes that Scotty needs good singles to overcome the loss of free Idol buzz and souvenir collectors, he’ll be fine. If they don’t, well, he’ll have plenty of company on the 2nd era scrap heap. But back to the commercial above, that won’t be Idol’s fault.

    (I can blame Idol plenty for exploiting the hell out of the majority of these kids while they’re on the show, but not for providing the launching pad for those few who are good and/or lucky enough to do well. Or who are smart enough to take advantage of Idol right back.)

  • DragonFly

    Even tho I’m not fan-invested in some of the success stories of late, people will be impressed w/the #’s for HOME & Scotty–so AI will use the stories of course. 
    _______________
    Fans of particularly AI want the voices great, talent, straight-laced contestants/winners, but look around what “characters” (not all) are big stars & radio hits–the crazier the better for some.  Then fans here don’t want their “fave” to sell out to what’s popular (& no it wouldn’t be fun to watch) but what is the answer then.  –Not that radio would let them get recognized for it anyway–they want to handpick & (they) make Stars these days, not let it up to “Q-Public” Idol audiences.”…..the wrong people always win”. blah blah blah.”~~as some want to think it’s blah, blah–I think after 11 yrs, face it, it’s definitey not all about agreement in the end– some even throw their votes to a completely different person when their’s is eliminated.  Do you think people who throw their support or stop watching will be around to care if that end winner gets heard on the radio, or buy their music?–not likely.  Some ARE tired of some of the show’s endings.  It is a show about disappointment many times also.  Much of it is internet influenced now.  You can knock this b/c it’s just a  ”cheesy show” but as fans here argue FOR YEARS–there is controversy that “irks” in the end for many.  ~~it’s been evidenced when some alums come back to entertain there is still some mighty fine reactions & some have felt real sales bumps so to imply alums are forgotten after their season is not always so.~~admittedly again, harder to become a Hit.  Will not agree there aren’t Idols with talent. 

  • http://twitter.com/bagel08 John S

    I personally think the fanwars between the three shows is annoying.

  • DragonFly

    Referring to Phillip’s Home song & Scotty’s sales as 2 diff # stories for AI of course.

  • ohreli

    There are years where Idol winners dont do well, so to be fair we really need to give XFactor and the Voice a few years slack to see if they can come up with any comparable stars. 

    But so far, yeah, I think Randy is right….