Idol Headlines for 06/04/12

Jordin Sparks, Jason Aldean Among Presenters for CMT Music Awards (Exclusive) – Hollywood and Nashville will come together this summer for the 11th annual CMT Music Awards, hosted this year by country superstar Toby Keith and House of Lies actress Kristen Bell. A wide array of stars will be on hand for the June 6 ceremony, including presenters Ashley Greene, Dax Shepard, Denise Richards, Jake Owen, Jason Aldean, Jordin Sparks, Kellie Pickler, Ronnie Dunn, Sara Evans, Steve Austin, The Band Perry and Tom Arnold. – Read more at The Hollywood Reporter

Kelly Clarkson & Brandon Blackstock: Bonfire Celebration! – Kelly Clarkson is all smiles with boyfriend, Brandon Blackstock, as they pose for a photograph at a Barn Party Bonfire Celebration held at Cowboy Town on Thursday (May 31) in Whites Creek, Tenn. – See the Photos at Just Jared

Paul McDonald and Nikki Reed Attend the MTV Movie Awards

Jennifer Hudson: ‘Boss Baby is Back!’ – Jennifer Hudson shows off her wild side in a pair of animal print pants as she gets ready to fly out of LAX Airport on Saturday (June 2) in Los Angeles. The 30-year-old entertainer waved to the cameras then headed to catch her flight. – Read more at Just Jared

10 Career Lessons From Celebrities That Apply To You And Me – Being fired or laid off is not the end of the world (Taylor Hicks). American Idol winner, Taylor Hicks, was dropped by his label after his first album, so he went on tour with the musical theatre production of Grease and sold his own albums at each stop, making several million dollars in the process. If your high-flying career hits an obstacle, you can turn it around with creativity, persistence, and continuing to put yourself out there. – Read more at Forbes

Season 2 SYTYCD Winner Benji Schwimmer comes out

Benji comes out in an interview with Mormonstories.org. The video is 2 hours long, but is absolutely riveting. Benji discusses struggling with his sexuality as a devout, practicing Mormon and it is heartbreaking. Once I began watching, I couldn’t stop.

Glee Star, Dianna Agron auctions off a kiss at the Glaad Awards

Glee star, Dianna Agron, auctioned off a kiss at Friday night’s Glaad awards in San Francisco. Dianna was the host at the third in a series of media award events.

WATCH: ‘Hunger Games': Stars Who Didn’t Make The Final Cut Revealed!

In this ‘After Hours,’ Elizabeth Banks explains why Chris Colfer, Chloë Moretz and others never made it to the big screen. (Pretty funny!)

 

Chris Colfer bookstore appearance dates! — FIRST LOOK – Glee star Chris Colfer has been on sold-out arena tours before, but come July, he’ll be embarking on a different kind of tour altogether. To promote his upcoming children’s book The Land of Stories (July 17), he’ll be giving book signings across the country, mostly in the New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, and San Francisco areas, as well as in Kurt Hummel’s home state of Ohio. – See the schedule at Entertainment Weekly

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SYFK77IYLRQIVATQ2MJKSW2J7Y Pam

    From PR Newswire:

    Rising Star Rachel Crow To Release Self-titled EP on Columbia Records/Syco Available June 26

    TOUR WITH BIG TIME RUSH SET FOR SUMMER 2012

    NEW YORK, June 4, 2012 /PRNewswire/ — Columbia Records and Syco Music are pleased to announce the release of Rachel Crow’s self-titled EP on June 26 via all digital service providers.  A fan favorite and darling among The X Factor judges, fourteen-year old Rachel moved Simon Cowell to predict that audiences would be “hearing a lot more about her.”  This five-foot wonder is ready to make good on that promise.

    Read the entire press release at the link.

  • BonnieDee

    Aww, I hope Rachael does well.  I’ll certainly give it a listen.

  • justmefornow

    Nikki doesn’t looked so thrilled in that pic.
    But good to see Paul, I’d thought he died or something. lol

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WIHKL34XDORTS2UZP4SWUUTG3U randi

    Compare two ladies out with their men.  Kelly Clarkson and Nikki Reed.  Kelly looks amazingly happy while Nikki looks miserable.  

  • V Jemmy

    I’ve seen Nikki look happier, but she was like that in all of her photos, with or without Paul that I saw… maybe she was just having an off night.

  • Chris

    She played a vampire, neither her or Kristin Stewart ever look too chipper. I think it was in the hiring requirements… must look sullen and unhappy at all times.

  • Chris

    Yay Kelly!  Good to see her smile and relaxed.

  • Anonymous

    For reasons I cannot explain [heh],  Nikki is on my twitter feed.  If she’s secretly miserable with Paul, she hides it pretty well!  They are always expressing love for each other, and talking about cool outings.  I think that was just a bad picture, honestly. 

  • http://www.jstamers.com/ Jordan Seltzer

    So so so happy for Rachel Crow. She’s going to be a big star.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe she just had wanted Paul to dress up!

  • Anonymous

    Benji – This is just another reason added to my very, very long list of why organized religion is the worst thing ever invented.  And yeah, invented would be the key word here.

    For any church to basically equivocate homosexuality with pedophilia is not only proof of their ignorance but also their hypocrisy. 

    I’ll stick with Grimm’s Fairy Tales for my daily dose of fantasy.  At least they don’t preach hatred, exclusion, war-mongering and ignorance.

  • BonnieDee

    Kelly looks wonderful.  This new relationship agrees with her.

  • http://twitter.com/ladymctech ladymctech

    Nice little write-up on Taylor Hicks. His story is something we all need to keep in mind when we feel defeated for one reason or another.

  • Anonymous

    Actually fairy tales are all about the things you mentioned, but people tend not to use them to chart their life course…..other than that, yeah religion can screw folk over!

  • Anonymous

    Benji S. interview — amazing. Well worth the (considerable!) time investment!

  • Anonymous

     What I have found over reading the fairy tales – raised 5 kids, lol – was that the brothers Grimm tales preached against these ills, as opposed to advocating for them. 

    I was raised Catholic.  We now have a lovely Pope, the ex-Nazi, who tells us to hate – Hate! – an entire segment of the population.  Sorry, but that doesn’t jive with the all-loving God I was taught about in school.  And then of course we have the massive cover-up and defense of the Catholic Priest pedophile scandal, none of which have been proven to be gay, either.

    It is bad enough the bullying and vilification gay kids have to endure from society as a whole.  To have your church classify you as something short of the devil himself is just heartbreaking to me. 

    Benji comes across as an intelligent, sincere, loving man who I hope can find true solace and peace within himself and can someday tell his church to take a flying leap.

  • Anonymous

    awe…look at kelly.  she’s wearing no makeup and looks a littledrunk.  bet they had a blast! drunk by love or drunk by drinks?

  • Anonymous

    American Idol storylines as illustrative examples at Forbes may now have spawned enough posts to be a Tumblr account.

  • Anonymous

    Has anyone else seen this website?

    Core Media Group (American Idol, SYTYCD & 19):

    http://coremediagroup.com/

  • http://twitter.com/Sassycatz Sassycatz

    American Idol storylines as illustrative examples at Forbes may now have spawned enough posts to be a Tumblr account.

    LOL! With the emphasis on “story,” as I’ve noticed how often they’ve got their facts wrong.

  • Anonymous

    Just saw an ubdated presenters list for the CMT awards and Skylar and Colton  were listed.  So good for Skylar for some face time and I guess those country duets got Colton an invite as well .LOL

  • http://twitter.com/raya4 raya

    I get Skylar, but why would Colton be a presenter at the CMT awards?  He complained when he had to sing the country duets two weeks in a row on Idol.

    Then again when you go to the Core Media Group site, the only idols I find pictured are Phil, Jessica, Colton & Skylar. I don’t think this is a coincidence.

  • Anonymous

    Very cool quote from Taylor Hicks in the Forbes article. Proof he had(s) the smarts to be as successful, or more so, than 95% of people coming off the Idol show – and that includes Carrie and Kelly and anyone else Idol like to point to as being “successful”. Unfortunately, most kids don’t have the resources or skills it takes to make it under the pressures of the business after Idol.

  • http://www.21-dec2012.com/ 21 december 2012

    Diana Agron was amazing at the GLAAD.

  • windmills

    1rollbounce2: awe…look at kelly.  she’s wearing no makeup and looks a littledrunk.  bet they had a blast! drunk by love or drunk by drinks?

    It’s a Miranda &  Blake party so I’d wager it’s probably both ;) Adorable pictures of Kelly & Brandon, love that color on Kelly!

    DB987: Just saw an ubdated presenters list for the CMT awards and Skylar and Colton  were listed.  So good for Skylar for some face time and I guess those country duets got Colton an invite as well .LOL

    Wow, you are not kidding! The CMT PR says they’re presenting along with Jordin and Kellie, and Carrie will be presenting and performing.

    Jordin’s not going country as far as I know either but I guess she’s promoting Sparkle (she also presented at the ACAs last December). I think attending the CMTs is just a visibility gig for Colton and possibly another sign 19 will pick up his option for a recording contract of some kind. What I hope it’s NOT is a sign 19’s going to keep shipping him and Skylar.

  • Nele621

    How does Taylor make several million dollars selling 52,000 albums?

  • http://twitter.com/leilamaurizia2 leilamaurizia

    Just saw an ubdated presenters list for the CMT awards and Skylar and Colton were listed.

    Correct.  They join 3 other Idols who will also present: Kellie, Carrie (who will do double-duty as performer & presenter) and Jordin.

    Presenters:
    Jason Aldean
    Ronnie Dunn
    Sara Evans
    Alan Jackson
    Jake Owen
    Kellie Pickler
    Luke Bryan
    The Band Perry
    Carrie Underwood
    CMT hosts Tom Arnold (My Big Redneck Vacation) and Steve Austin
    (Redneck Island)
    American Idol contestants Colton Dixon and Skylar Laine
    2012 Indianapolis 500 winner Dario Franchitti
    Twilight star Ashley Greene
    pro skateboarder Tony Hawk
    actress Denise Richards
    actor Dax Shepard
    Jordin Sparks

    Performers:
    Luke Bryan
    Kenny Chesney
    Eric Church
    Toby Keith
    Lady Antebellum
    Little Big Town
    Willie Nelson
    Brad Paisley
    Pistol Annies
    Rascal Flatts
    The Band Perry
    Carrie Underwood
    Hank Williams Jr.
    Zac Brown Band

    Yes, you’re reading that list right.  Carrie is the only solo female artist performing.

    http://www.cmt.com/news/country-music/1686468/cmt-music-awards-reveal-all-star-presenters.jhtml

    (ETA: Luke Bryan to the performers list. Thanks, windmills! You’re more accurate than CMT itself!)

  • Nele621

    Who is Benji?

  • http://twitter.com/raya4 raya

    True.  At this point, from all the little indicators, there isn’t a doubt in my mind that Colton is getting picked up.  There’s also a ridiculously huge close-up of him on the Core Media site. 

    But yes, they better be letting the Skylar/Colton fauxmance die already. I didn’t believe it when they were on the show and I still won’t believe it now.

    Benji won SYTYCD in S2.

  • Anonymous

     Benji Schwimmer – won SYTYCD in season 2?  4?  Can’t remember which year but he was a very popular winner.

  • V Jemmy

     

    Maybe she just had wanted Paul to dress up!

    I thought that too until I looked at last year’s photos (and other photos of them) where he’s wearing essentially the same outfit (pants, t-shirt, blazer) and they look far happier together.

  • Anonymous

    Simple. When you own your own label and own all the publishing rights to your own songs, you earn a lot more money for each unit sold. Fifty thousand units could add up to more than 1/2 million dollars net when you sell each one at say, $20/a pop, which he did during his run in Grease. Most of his money, however, was made starring in Grease where he apparently got quite a hefty salary doing 6 months on Broadway and then on the road for 18 months.  

  • windmills

    leilamaurizia: Yes, you’re reading that list right.  Carrie is the only solo female artist performing.

    Carrie is the only solo female act performing on the main stage but Lauren Alaina and Jana Kramer will also get solo performances on the side stage that’ll be televised. 

    I was definitely looking at the gender breakdown though. Out of the 14 main stage performers (Luke Bryan should be on the list too), there’s 1 solo female act (Carrie), 1 100% female group (Pistol Annies), and 3 mixed gender groups with females where the female is either the lead singer or jointly the lead singer. So, that’s 5 out of 14 main stage performers with female representation. Add in the 6 side stage performers and that’s 2 more solo female acts and another group with a female. So, 20 performers total with 8 acts that have female representation. Meanwhile there are 10 solo male acts (counting the 3 side stage performers), 2 100% male groups (both main stage performers), and 4 mixed gender groups.

  • Anonymous

    “What I hope it’s NOT is a sign 19’s going to keep shipping him and Skylar.”

    Their first duet could be “God Grabs His Gun”

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    American Idol storylines as illustrative examples at Forbes may now have spawned enough posts to be a Tumblr account.

    Is CheapAnalogiesF*ckYeah taken?

  • Anonymous

    Taylor Hicks deserves respect for turning a bad situation into a good one, and doing very well for himself.  I don’t understand though, why you assume that 95% of all the other Idols (including Carrie and Kelly) are squandering away their money and not doing well financially.

  • Valentin432

    You need some creative accounting to earn more selling 50k than people selling over a million albums without even taking into account singles, 

    I’m glad that Taylor is doing well for himself, but there’s no comparison with other Idols who have kept their mainstream appeal.

  • Anonymous

     So happy to hear about Taylor Hicks.  I only followed season 7, and always have read very negative press on him.  I always felt he got a very bad rap for what seemed to be a very interesting stint during his idol run.  Good for him.  Hope my very talented idol(Mr. Cook) turns lemons into lemonade as well.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DJ4FPAE2BM4XDCNVQITJSS3S2Q Sue

    James Durbin ?@DurbinRock
    Hey Atlanta!!! I’m at Inkaholics getting some work done & thinking about playing some songs. Come on down for a FREE concert!!!

  • Anonymous

    Not really. No creative accounting needed. Check how much artists make on each unit when they are with a major labels and then check on how much artists make for each unit sold not only when they are on Indie Labels, but in Taylor’s situation, his own label.  Also, he was hand delivering 25,000 of those 50,000 CDs sold, so no retail or distribution cuts. Makes a huge difference in “in the pocket bottom line”.   And imo, he’s doing way better monetarily than 95% of people coming off that show in any capacity.  His salary for his Vegas gig could easily be pocketing him a ton of money as well.

  • justmefornow

    I wish I was in Atlanta, I’d go!
    Here’s a pic right now Inkaholiks just tweeted.

    Inkaholiks ?@InkaholiksLLC
    @durbinrock #JamesDurbin at @inkaholiksllc bout to get his ink on!!! 
    http://instagr.am/p/LdTBhPE2ln/

  • Anonymous

    Uche Nwaneri?@Chukwu77“@InkaholiksLLC @durbinrock #JamesDurbin at @inkaholiksllc bout to get his ink on!!! http://instagr.am/p/LdTBhPE2ln/”

    Tweet from Uche Nwaneri (the Atlanta football player who owns Inkaholiks).  It appears they are ramping up their promo leading up to the grand opening and red carpet event June 9. 

  • Valentin432

     Actually I could believe that Taylor is doing better than 95% of the 303 AI contestants out there which means 289 contestants.
    But among the 14 ex contestants doing better than him are surely the two AI contestants that you explecitly mentioned and even if Taylor was making 100% of those 50k which simply is not possible he isn’t making more than Carrie and Kelly, Vegas gigs and touring shows included.

  • Anonymous

    I actually think the number is higher than 95%.  Can you name 14 ex-Idols who are making millions of dollars these days?  I can’t. I bet it’s more like 96%-97%.  And I never said he was making more than Kelly or Carrie.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Benji comes out in an interview with Mormonstories.org. The video is 2
    hours long, but is absolutely riveting. Benji discusses struggling with
    his sexuality as a devout, practicing Mormon and it is heartbreaking. Once I began watching, I couldn’t stop.”

    Wow. Thanks for posting that, MJ. I felt the same way as you did. Ultimately, it was compelling, educational and so very sad. It’s such a tragedy the torment that religious beliefs put people through. It’s really unforgivable and so inhumane.

  • Trina

    I could believe Taylor is pocketing a nice chunk of change being his own label and having the Vegas gig, and I’m sure hes doing better than some Idols who have struggled or have to hand over a large percent to labels –  but I dont believe for a minute hes doing better than the Idols who made the last Forbes list I remember seeing
    http://www.forbes.com/pictures/eeel45ekei/the-top-earning-american-idols-2/ 
    And while he may be smart, I also dont believe hes smarter than Carrie and Kelly who are still churning out hits and still making millions and getting endorsement deals. Carrie especially is IMO one of the smartest Idols there is. You dont make 20 million a year by NOT being smart.
     

  • Nele621

    I highly doubt Taylor made over three million dollars from Grease. He wasn’t even the lead. If that was the case, Constantine would have made quite a bit more as the lead (and a Tony nominee) in a very successful play. Constantine never made the Forbes top idol earners, and he certainly would have had he made several million dollars from doing his ROA show.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I3NQHPT3NA6VGKK22RCMTGOCII Tiffany

    I read somewhere that an indie artist can make 50% of the sell of the cds as opposed to practically nothing when on a main label.  I can’t remember the artist who said this about his own deal, maybe Elliot.  

    CMT.com has a VERY long article about Diana DiGarmo on its hot dish page, the link of which is on their homepage.

  • justmefornow

    More good promo for the shop and James too. Now he has NFL PR guys tweeting about him and Inkaholiks… 

    ReyesAndWolfNetwork ?@ReyesAndWolf
    Rock Star @DurbinRock Is at @InkaholiksLLC w/ @Chukwu77getting inked up. Performance to follow at 3pm. Fans are welcome. 1878 Piedmont Ave. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    Has anyone else seen this website?
    Core Media Group (American Idol, SYTYCD & 19):
    http://coremediagroup.com/inde

    I don’t see Joshua or Kris anywhere on this site.

  • windmills

    DB987: Their first duet could be “God Grabs His Gun”

    I LOLed. Hard.

  • Anonymous

    Just saw this tweet too:

    Inkaholiks?@InkaholiksLLC
    James Durbin at Inkaholiks about to get tatted up!!! Come see him perform today at 3pm for the ink lounge and CNN!!! http://fb.me/QOJXafp8

    Why didn’t they give people more notice?  Not that I’m anywhere near Atlanta anyway, lol.

  • Anonymous

    You need some creative accounting to earn more selling 50k than people selling over a million albums without even taking into account singles,

    He doesn’t have to be too creative, since most artists aren’t going to make a cent, if they sell 1 million albums.  A while back, Brian Mansfield had a breakdown of which idol alums he thought had sold enough to see a profit from their first albums, and the list only included three people.  

    http://www.theroot.com/views/how-much-do-you-musicians-really-make 

    The root has this breakdown of how much artists make, and the pie chart shows them only getting 13%, while their labels get over 60%.    I was trying to find a chart that we had last year that showed how many units an artist had to sell in order to make minimum wage.  The only reference to it that I could find on Google linked me to a post on MJ’s that’s about Lee getting dropped from RCA, but I haven’t found the link yet. That chart had a breakdown of how much those who are signed to a label get in comparison to how much independent artists make. It included the major digital outlets like Itunes, as well as Spotify, and how much each could get from selling an album. But remember, the artist who is signed with a label doesn’t see a cent, until all of the expenses are paid off.

    The Root article is so interesting, it states that labels actually charge artists for the packaging that cds come in.  With indie artists, who can’t afford to get their cds in stores, they are saving a lot by just having the cds available digitally.

  • http://twitter.com/tinawinabina Tinawina

    I stated that Benji interview thinking I would watch a few minutes, and I watched an hour.  The only reason I’m stopping now is because I have to leave. It was so emotional, hearing his story, and completely fascinating. I’m just sad thinking of all the other people who are now where he was then. Thank you for posting that mj.

  • Nele621

    It’s been said over and over that it’s not the album selling that makes the idols (and others) lots of money. It’s touring. Look at Madonna (yeah, no idol is close to her earnings). She will be making a hundred million + dollars touring while her CD is not selling so much.

  • justmefornow

    I think the “come on down for the concert” was a last minute thing.
    Did you see this pic? They just finished the outline. Looks like some kind of cool retro Mic….

    Uche Nwaneri ?@Chukwu77
    @Durbinrock just finished the outline of his tattoo, getting inked up at @inkaholiksllc #Jamesdurbin 
    http://instagr.am/p/LdcOFhlnvN/

  • dabney c

    “I read somewhere that an indie artist can make 50% of the sell of the
    cds as opposed to practically nothing when on a main label.  I can’t
    remember the artist who said this about his own deal, maybe Elliot.  ”
    ___

    I read that about Elliott back when his first album came out. Elliott went gold with that one, so he made a couple of million dollars. Too bad he’s struggling now.

  • Anonymous

    I highly doubt Taylor made over three million dollars from Grease. He wasn’t even the lead.

    They paid him 2 million dollars, at least that was the figure that Forbes reported. They didn’t pay him to be the lead, they added him to the cast because they thought that he would bring in an audience.  It must have worked, since they signed him up to join the touring cast.

    That being said, that was years ago, and the same goes for Taylor releasing his own music.  

    ETA: I don’t think that Taylor is making several million dollars off of selling his music, but he could make more than someone who is at a label, and who has sold a million albums.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DJ4FPAE2BM4XDCNVQITJSS3S2Q Sue

    I think it was Elliot. I remember him claiming that when he was on a major he made like $1 per CD and when he switched to indie about $7 per CD. That’s quite a difference. I bet James is also pocketing a pretty big percentage on his album sales.

  • dabney c

    When was Elliott ever on a major?

  • Anonymous

    He doesn’t have to be too creative, since most artists aren’t going to make a cent, if they sell 1 million albums.

    The problem with that calcuation, as I’ve said before, is that it ignores songwriting royalties.  Artists who write their own songs are subject to controlled compensation, which means that they get less than outside songwriters in royalties, but AI artists who, let’s say, share duties with two outside writers on average and are subject to a 25 percent controlled compensation clause with a 10-song cap on writing royalties still get :

    $0.091 / 3 * .75 * 10 = $0.2275 per album

    For a platinum artist, that’s $227,500 in nonrecoupable royalties.  Not chump change.

    And it doesn’t even get into the question of royalties for radio, or TV or movie licensing, or performance in retail shops, or any of the other ways that songwriters can earn money and that are more likely to happen if the song is popular.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe I’m missing something, but I don’t see a comprehensive list of the people who are signed to 19R or the people who they manage. What they seem to have done is list a few names, but that’s just to give people an idea of who is with the company, and not meant to name everyone.  They even have Daughtry’s picture up, but don’t clarify that they are signed to 19R, but not managed by anyone at 19.  

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DJ4FPAE2BM4XDCNVQITJSS3S2Q Sue

    When he was on the show.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Adam Levine will be on Anderson Cooper’s talk show “Anderson” today (CBS):

    http://www.andersoncooper.com/episodes/adam-levine-the-voice-plus-woman-pretending-to-be-paralyzed/

    Three-time Grammy winner Adam Levine, lead
    singer of Maroon 5 and judge on the hit show “The Voice,” joins Anderson
    to discuss his surging TV fame and the real backstage antics at “The
    Voice.” Does Adam really feud with Christina Aguilera, and how does he
    feel about mentoring new talent? Plus, what he found in the green room
    that he fell in love with!
    Inspired by Cee Lo Green’s white cat, Anderson helps Adam select his own mascot. Take a look at this preview from the show.

    There’s a video preview at the above site.

     

  • Anonymous

    And it doesn’t even get into the question of royalties for radio, or TV or movie licensing, or performance in retail shops, or any of the other ways that songwriters can earn money and that are more likely to happen if the song is popular.

    I wasn’t talking about songwriters, since the focus seemed to be on the artists, but yes, those idol alums who write will get paid, since the labels can’t hold on to that money.  But, some labels have even found a way to profit off of that.

  • Anonymous

    I stated that Benji interview thinking I would watch a few minutes, and I
    watched an hour.  The only reason I’m stopping now is because I have to
    leave.

      You’ll want to finish it when you have the time. I was tearing up at the end.

  • Guest

    A little premature IMO.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    It’s definitely worth watching the rest of the interview. It’s even more emotionally wrenching towards the end.

  • Anonymous

    No, Elliott was never on a major label.  He’s also a good example of someone on an Indie who made a TON of money on his first album, imprinted by  Hictory Records.  He had a distribution deal with Sony I believe, but that’s different.  He sold 1/2 million records and made well over a million dollars.  If he had owned Hictory, he’d have made a TON more.

  • Anonymous

    That’s very true!  Let’s not forget that Taylor Hicks headlined the 27th highest grossing concert tour in 2007 per Pollstar, if I remember correctly.  That’s the bread and butter of ALL artists, actually, regardless of how much they make on their CDs – majors or indies.

  • mmb

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/jun/04/adam-lambert-american-idol-interview?newsfeed=true

    New Adam article/interview in The Guardian.  His PR flack has really been doing a good job this era.

  • windmills

    curly_yenta: That’s very true!  Let’s not forget that Taylor Hicks headlined the 27th highest grossing concert tour in 2007 per Pollstar, if I remember correctly.

    Here’s a link to Pollstar’s Year End Top 100 Tours of 2007: link. Taylor Hicks was not in the t100. The #100 tour in 2007 grossed $7.5 million. 

    As far as I know the only Idols to make the Pollstar Year End Top 100 list in any year for solo tours are Clay, Kelly (#75 2006 $10.2 million grossed), Carrie (#19 2010 $38.3 million grossed, #22 2008 $33.5 million grossed) and Chris Daughtry. Kelly’s tour with Reba was also #98 in 2008 ($9.1 million grossed) while Carrie’s tour with Keith Urban was #56 in 2008 ($16.2 million grossed).

  • http://twitter.com/desireechick Kesia Monteith

    I’m in the middle of it right now, and I can’t tear my eyes off it. I see Benji in a whole new positive light, and I love him all the more for it. I won’t give it away, but he stops in the middle of the interview to address the camera about something related to this series, and it was incredibly moving.

  • windmills

    mjsbigblog:  You’ll want to finish it when you have the time. I was tearing up at the end.

    I’d also gotten about halfway through before I had to go out and there’s already been several times I didn’t even notice the tears streaming down my cheeks. Thank you for linking to this.

    Edit: I didn’t know anything about this guy Benji beforehand though I recognized his name from SYTYCD. But, from what I’ve seen and heard in this interview he’s a truly beautiful man.

  • http://twitter.com/Miztig Miz

    LOL at the ‘read more’ for American Idol and the 2 pictures there are of Colton and Skylar. Makes me think that is who they expected to be the final two.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    Just search on google for Nikki Reed’s pics last week and you’ll always be informed where’s Mr. Reed at…

  • V Jemmy

    Really liked Benji’s video.  I was only able to get through about an hour and fifty minutes before it got too preachy for me, but it was very good to listen to otherwise.  It reminded me of my ex-Mormon friends back in college, but he’s much calmer than they were.  Thanks for posting, MJ.

  • http://twitter.com/Miztig Miz

    MJ, thanks for that video interview with Benji Schwimmer. It’s not something I would have ever seen on my own. Very interesting and heartbreaking. I couldn’t help but think of my brother watching it. How I’d have loved to been able to sit down and have a long discussion like this with him. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    Touring is the key word to make money with music.

  • Anonymous

     “When was Elliott ever on a major?”

    He wasn’t. I think that he did say something like that it was his understanding that that’s about how much the artist got when on a major, compared to the $7 or so he got as an indie.

  • http://twitter.com/Miztig Miz

    Didn’t Taylor also buy a restaurant/bar in Alabama? He always struck me as a smart business person and he definitely has the hustle.

  • Anonymous

    For any Game of Thrones and/or Maroon 5 fans, here’s a great “Payphone”/Game of Thrones parody that’s going viral. The guy doesn’t really look like Adam Levine, but it’s still hilarious. 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rapo0h-RDnk

  • V Jemmy

     

    You dont make 20 million a year by NOT being smart.

    You could.. if you had really awesome management.

  • Nele621

    Thanks for the Pollstar link. It’s always good to have backup data when one makes claims. I’m guessing Taylor did not make as much as Cook’s tour (since his was nearly a year) and Lambert (he had some big ones internationally). He probably did alright, tho.

    Currently, I don’t think any idol will ever catch up with Carrie, with Kelly coming in second, then Daughtry. Altho, it seems Daughtry’s concert numbers are going down. Who will be the more current #3?

  • Nele621

    and/or by being really popular like Bieber, T. Swift, and Britney.

  • Anonymous

    Yes he did. People also have to remember that when those Forbes rankings come out about how much Idols earned in a given year, they have NO access to tax returns and certainly have no access to the profits from a private business venture such as a part-ownership in a restaurant.  It’s all guesses and in my opinion, to put any stock in actual numbers is beyond ridiculous.

  • Barth

    Lyle Lovett: Albums Sold? 4.6 Million. Money Made From Album Sales? $0

    http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080711/1439371651.shtml

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MV64BS4FSISCASL4P656RXAFYQ Kayla

    LOL omg that Payphone/Game Of Thrones parody is hilarious. “I’m not playin music anymore, from now on you can just be Maroon 4, next time they do The Voice I won’t be there, tell Cee-Lo his cat can have my chair!”

    (The finale was only last night and I already miss the show terribly dammit.)

  • Nele621

    4.6 million albums over a 20-year span. That’s a little different than someone selling over a million in one year. Susan Boyle made quite a bit of money just from album sales since she doesn’t seem to be up to touring.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DJ4FPAE2BM4XDCNVQITJSS3S2Q Sue

    Daughtry’s sound has gotten stale. They really need to pursue a new direction with their next album.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MV64BS4FSISCASL4P656RXAFYQ Kayla

    So reading the Core Media Group site, it seems like 19E is now an umbrella for 19M, 19R, 19Publishing and 19Merch? Or at least that’s how it seems from the site. I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that 19E used to be a separate entity associated with the show itself?

    http://coremediagroup.com/19-entertainment.html

  • Barth

     Forget Susan Boyle. It is doubtful that any of the recent Idols will sell 4.6 million albums in the next 20 years. Unless they write their own songs, and I don’t mean being one of many writers just to get a credit, they are looking at zero income as recording artists. If they don’t tour or have other income streams like TV, Broadway or other commercial enterprises, they are looking at a bleak future.

  • Anonymous

    “I want to kill Joffrey with his own shoes.”

    Don’t we all.

    Staying unspoiled for S2 actually worked out really well for me (excepting that I thought the Rains of Castamere would be “safe” to search for lyrics, and it wasn’t…boo), so I think I’m going to keep up with that for S3.  But that means it’s a looooong wait until 2013.

  • Anonymous

    Your reading is wrong. 19E is the parent company with 19 Merchandising, 19 Management, 19 Publishing and 19 Recordings, Television & 19 Touring independent branches under it.

  • Anonymous

    Is it just me or is that Core Media Group site really vague on which arm of 19 (19E, 19M, 19R) works with which Idols and for what? It makes it seem like 19E is some sort of umbrella for 19M and 19R, but I didn’t think it worked like that. Or maybe they’re just being deliberately vague.

    Someone mentioned last week that 19 just goes by 19E now, and has dropped the R and M designations.  I don’t know if that’s true, because from a business standpoint it is easier to have the different designations, especially since all of these divisions still exist.

    I didn’t see anything on the site that gave a list of all of the people who are signed to the record label, or all of the people who are signed to management contracts.

    Nele said: 4.6 million albums over a 20-year span. That’s a little different than someone selling over a million in one year. Susan Boyle made quite a bit of money just from album sales since she doesn’t seem to be up to touring.

    Unless we see her financial statement, we can’t say how much she made off of the actual album sales, and how much she made from touring, or her advance.  According to the XF alums, Simon isn’t the type of business man to not take more than he thinks that he’s worth.  He’s also the one who bought Susan Boyle a house, just like he did with Leona Lewis, so who knows how much he really gives them.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MV64BS4FSISCASL4P656RXAFYQ Kayla

    Someone mentioned last week that 19 just goes by 19E now, and has dropped the R and M designations.  

    I didn’t see anything on the site that gave a list of all of the people who are signed to the record label, or all of the people who are signed to management contracts.

    Oh huh. The new site does seem to gloss over which of their subdivisions are doing what work with each Idol. Maybe this is just a first draft site though, and things will be detailed out a bit better later.

  • Anonymous

     Religion and faith aren’t bad things.  But there are those who use it in bad ways.

  • Anonymous

    it’s good to see the publicity tide turning to the positive side for Taylor. He has worked hard post-idol without due credit for his successes. Although I doubt he made several million off his last record as the Forbes article states, he did sell 1/2 of that 55,000 at $20 each, with 100% ownership. That would net him far more than most of the recent idol releases, with the possible exception of Carrie & Scottie. But Taylor hinted in a recent interview that he may go back to a major label to get that publicity push for his next album. At this point he needs exposure for his records more than he needs the money. The Grease and Vegas gigs are paying the bills. It would be exciting to see him back on a major label and in the spotlight.

  • windmills

    For anybody who wants to look at archived Pollstar Year End Top Tour lists, I posted links in today’s numbers thread for 2006 through 2011, and also included a link where the 2004 list is archived.

  • GaryOC

    Pia Toscano will be singing the National Anthem at Game 3 of the Stanley Cup Finals at Staples Center tonight at 5pm PDT. The game will air on NBC Sports Network. She will also be singing at Game 4 on Wednesday.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WIHKL34XDORTS2UZP4SWUUTG3U randi

    I would certainly love to be privy to all these artists financial records to know who made squat v. who made “tons” of money. 

  • dabney c

    It is doubtful that any of the recent Idols will sell 4.6 million albums
    in the next 20 years. Unless they write their own songs, and I don’t
    mean being one of many writers just to get a credit, they are looking at
    zero income as recording artists.

    Can someone explain to me why it works this way? Why would a recording artist get zero from the sales of their recordings? Clearly artists are chosen by labels because of their potential appeal to the buying public, so I imagine that’s worth something a little more than zero.

  • Larc

    Susan Boyle made quite a bit of money just from album sales since she doesn’t seem to be up to touring.

    But SuBo is music royalty.  She’s the Queen of Karaoke!  ;)

  • Anonymous

    MJ – Thank you for posting that interview with Benji. It really moved me. I have such admiration for him and to hear his story was heartbreaking but uplifting at the same time to see that he’s finding his way, his own way.

    As with anything that has large influence on our lives, religion has the ability to be a great source of bad as well as good. While I don’t agree with the exclusionary and in many cases discriminatory practices of most major religions toward those of any sexuality other than hetero, I won’t discount the good things that religion has done. I just wish we could all love and respect each other without the judging. Sigh. I guess I’ll always keep hoping for that perfect world.

    I do think its awesome that Benji is putting his story out there. I hope that others who are in a similar position that he was in might see it and draw hope. I also hope the church policy change they spoke about that happened in 2011 can be reversed. That’s 100% ridiculous. I know that’s just a start but I think its an important one.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/IKAPTNAJ2NDD2P5QWGFWGEY6ME Mary

    That was awesome!

  • Anonymous

    I would imagine that Taylor cut himself a lucrative deal for the Grease tour.

    While I have no inside info, my theory is based on four factors

    1) He was the first one signed to the tour according to Playbill.com, making him a high priority on the producers list http://www.playbill.com/news/article/121314-Idol-Winner-Hicks-to-Star-in-Grease-National-Tour

    2)You will notice that both Playbill and Broadwayworld.com ( Broadway websites) refer to Taylor as the star of Grease, something that usually would not be done for a cameo – featured player http://nationaltours.broadwayworld.com/article/GREASE_Starring_IDOL_Taylor_Hicks_Closes_at_Marcus_Center_228_20100228

    3)He was allowed to come out after the show and do a couple of songs for the audience promoting his CD and he was connected to events such as this http://www.broadway.tv/blog/broadway-magazine/taylor-hicks-in-grease-offering-meet-and-greets-for-475/

    4) He was credited for bringing in some $150,000 a week in audience revenue during his run on Broadway http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/theater/item_aopKypEfT6c8eHO73I8nSI;jsessionid=3E78A7D20C8B355FB6E89D17207D141B

  • Nele621

    Lyle Lovett putting out 11 albums in the last 20 years and selling 4.4 mil in all those years may have something to do with him not making a cent. His costs for those 11 albums have exceeded revenue from sales.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    Can someone explain to me why it works this way? Why would a recording artist get zero from the sales of their recordings? Clearly artists are chosen by labels because of their potential appeal to the buying public, so I imagine that’s worth something a little more than zero.

    It’s an artifact of how a major label’s accounting is typically done.

    When the label says to the artist “let’s make an album together!”, the label pays the artist an advance, which is a lump sum of money that the artist is to live on while making the album. (Sometimes this is folded into the recording fund for making the album, but not with Idol contracts.)

    The artist does not directly repay the advance to the label. Instead, the label does not pay mechanical royalties for album/song sales to the artist until the label has made back the entire amount of the advance. (The accounting gets fancier than that, as the label charges the artist for lots of things, but that’s the general idea.)

    So the artist did see money, in the form of the advance. If the album sells really whompus amounts, it will achieve recoupment, and the artist will start getting paid mechanical royalties. If it sells at a more normal level, the cycle repeats for the next album. So it’s possible to sell a whompus total of albums over the course of a long career without ever selling enough of any one album to see recoupment.

    Mechanical royalties are completely separate from songwriting royalties, which are not affected by recoupment. Musicians who write their own songs see songwriting royalties from the very first album sale.

  • Anonymous

    Can someone explain to me why it works this way? Why would a recording artist get zero from the sales of their recordings? Clearly artists are chosen by labels because of their potential appeal to the buying public, so I imagine that’s worth something a little more than zero.

    I think Lyle Lovett explained it, the album getting exposure, which is why artists might stick with a major label, allows the artist to make a lot of money by touring.  And as we’ve seen with established acts, an artist can make a whole lot of money for years, even if they aren’t getting played on the radio or even releasing new music, by touring.  It seems like all of the acts who are selling out arenas, aside from Gaga and Bieber, are older acts, who haven’t released new music in years, if not decades.  It’s probably not impossible for someone to make a lot of money from touring, if they aren’t with a major label, but the main point of being with a label is to reach as many people as possible, and it’s hard to do that without some type of backing, even with the advances in technology.

    I think that things are a little different form major acts, who can get as much as 20% of the profits from their albums and singles that they sell, but even for them, the major money is in touring.  

  • dabney c

    Thanks, Eilonwy. Just as I thought – it’s not that the artist is excluded from royalties per se, it’s more about recoupment of the advance, and not selling enough post-recoupment to get to the royalties part. Right? So the benefit of a major label is the publicity it can generate pushing singles to radio, which in turn puts asses in seats at the venues during the artist’s tour.

    P.S. thanks to you also, elliegrll. Yeah, that’s what I figured, because otherwise there’s no real benefit to sticking with a major.

  • Mateja Praznik

    Cheryl Cole got THISCLOSE to Queen Elizabeth II.

    Cheryl Cole
    ?@CherylCole
    This image will live with me Forever.. I could never have dreamed of this moment.. #GodSaveOurQueen #Honoured http://say.ly/Vvl3t9r

  • Mateja Praznik

    Gary Barlow and Cheryl Cole sing a duet … yes, it’s THAT country song.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlfZ9hGzv0g

  • Anonymous

    I thought the Benji interview was just so sad and harrowing.  I think he made a wise decision to leave the church.  He was not accepted by his religion, and will be better on a journey of spiritual discovery were he can find a place that celebrates the wonderful person he is.  

  • Anonymous

    MJ – Thank you for posting that interview with Benji. It really moved
    me. I have such admiration for him and to hear his story was
    heartbreaking but uplifting at the same time to see that he’s finding
    his way, his own way.

      The two hours unfold like a movie. The whole time I’m thinking “this situation has to have a happy ending!”  It’s bittersweet, but Benji–such a beautiful and spiritual man–ends up in a good place.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_P46N6P5XPK22JVXDJJEENXGLVE marie

    I have not finish watching the video it’s so sad hearing this story.  The more I think about it the more I feel the churches are the biggest bully against the LGBT community.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MV64BS4FSISCASL4P656RXAFYQ Kayla

    Oh wow, that interview with Benji was long but I’m glad I watched it. So heartbreaking to think of the contortions he went thru to try and please his church, I’m so happy he’s on the other side of that now, loving and not just accepting but embracing himself as he is. Inspiring.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    You’re not missing anything. My statement was that I didn’t see Joshua or Kris on the site and I still don’t see them.

  • Anonymous

    You’re not missing anything. My statement was that I didn’t see Joshua or Kris on the site and I still don’t see them.

    Most of the people who are signed to 19R and 19M don’t appear on the site.  There is no list of the people who are with either of those divisions, so I’m not sure why not seeing Josh or Kris’ pictures is important.  

  • http://twitter.com/desireechick Kesia Monteith

    Since the Benji interview is still being talked about over here, I just want to say if you haven’t already, you guys most definitely MUST see part 2, and even take a look at part 1. But part 2, man….boy, everything you thought about SYTYCD and MORE, all behind the scenes. Benji’s crushes, haters (yes, very vindictive people on the show, hmph), interesting reveal about Nigel and Cat Deely, and all the choreographers, just a must see indeed. 

    So yes, Part 2, you guys should take some popcorn and watch. Again, it’s nearly two hours (sigh, I know) but it really is worth it. I never knew Benji was so fascinating, but his life really is a story to tell. 

    Some great SYTYCD stuff in this vid:

    Part 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZgIACujltE&feature=relmfu

  • Anonymous

    Just finished Benji part 3 and found it quite profound.
    Gotta save part 2 until tomorrow, though.

  • Valentin432

    The SYTYCD revelations are mostly known by fans of the show that I’ve read online.
    I mean, it’s been a long time since contestants have spoiled that the partners and dance styles aren’t really picked out of a hat.
    Cat Deeley is known for being awesome.

    As for the whole season 2 cast dymanics, I do wonder who Benji was attracted to in the cast, my guess based on his description of the whole cast is Ben Susak.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ENXWTPQX7WDUGFKDMOUHAWCQMY Van

    Aw Kelly and Brandon look so cute together. Kelly will be in the UK this week. Dark Side is off to a great start over there. She’ll be doing several print/radio interviews and the following: 
    June 6 – Live Lounge
    June 7 – This Morning
    June 8 – Loose Women
    June 9 – Capital Summertime Ball

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    It’s a statement. I don’t see them. It really isn’t more complicated than that.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for posting the Benji interview MJ. I only had time to watch about half of parts #2 and #3, but they’re pretty amazing. It’s not often that I can listen to someone talk continuously for more than 1/2 an hour! Hopefully I’ll have time to watch the rest. Kesia you were right. The SYTYCD stuff is really interesting.