Idol Headlines For 04/12/09

Wow, I feel bad for Anoop. The internationl voting “scandal” seems to happen every year for a variety of different contestants. If they are going to look at Anoop’s votes, they should look at everyone else’s votes as I’m sure if it is possible to vote from overseas, then everyone has the potential to get overseas’ votes. I went over to the EW board, and they are battling it out over there on the same topic.

Having said that, if a person has an international calling plan, how does AI know where they are calling from? I would think the cost of those calls and texts, however, would prevent people from voting more than once or twice. Maybe someone knows more about this and clue me in.

That article in the OC Register about Diana DeGarmo’s new show is great. Kathy Najimy is having her sing a new, updated rock version of “What’s New pussycat”, complete with leather, and seems to be a huge fan. I thought this was nice, from Kathy in the article.

“That’s what I like about Diana. As a character, she’s memorable. She’s got such a personality. She’s this brilliant singer and she’s not afraid of doing the edgy, crazy sexy stuff. It takes on a life of its own à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ and she sells it.”

By the way, this show is a comedic revue, so this is all done in jest. I’ve seen Diana in Hairspray and she’s a hilarious actress…it sounds like this will be worth seeing. I wish I lived near LA!

I may be really stupid but having an “America” based area code is easy to control on a phone-in, text-in site. If someone wants to buy an international plan for their “America” phone number it can become exorbitantly expensive since there is still an added cost for that service. When you go out of country you can set-up a local number and get cheap calling, but the area code is foreign and would be “seen” by the Idol filters. If winning American Idol is so damn important to a fan-base that they would expand exorbitant monetary resources to ensure their favs more votes….well, more power to them. I think I have a lot better things to do with my ever shrinking resources in this economy.

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“It isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t about how much I can squeeze out of them. All I worry about is à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹Can we make a better show than last year?à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t believe in making the quality go down,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  said Cowell, 49.

He doesn’t want the quality to go down? Wish he’d do that for AI – maybe NEXT year, cuz this year sucks!

I’m so proud of Elliott. I love that he still participates in the JDRF events. Each of the three years that he’s been doing the Gala, they’ve raised over $400,000 each year toward finding a cure. Great cause. My little nephew is a Type 1 diabetic. I appreciate all efforts.

Here is a video of Elliott singing “Can You Feel The Love Tonight” with a group of kids who’ve been affected by diabetes. Cute little kids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PkdAI3hvko

This whole “International Voting” scandal gets press every year. Too bad Anoop seems to be taking the brunt of it this year. I know Adam has lots of fans in China and the Philippines that vote (or try to), Kris too, as do plenty of the other Idols. The guy who wrote that article seems to have a real hard on to damage Anoop (you should see some of the other crap he’s written, pretty nasty).

AI has never addressed International votes, and I doubt they will. If it inflates the number of votes Ryan can announce they’ve received every week (whether they all count or not) then I don’t see how it matters to them. AI is broadcast around the world, so people need to get over it. It happens every single year.

Interesting DA is #15 on the buzz 100 today…

http://billboard.cgmsearch.com/billboardBuzz_1.html

Cool, that ^^^.

I guess Adam is generating lots of buzz. Dave Cook did that last year and he won.

aw gabam. that video was really sweet. It’s great that he’s doing that.

This whole à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“International Votingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  scandal gets press every year

yeah, too bad they are just focusing on one person though. If one of them is getting lots of international votes, the others are too. I don’t think it makes that much of a difference anyway, not many people are willing to spend so much money voting for a tv show.

DA interview with StarOnline while in Malaysia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VG7ZpKnKNU

LOL jab thanks! lol he doesnt like that he eats alot… lol

Back to Bacharach sounds like a great show and Kathy Najimy sounds really enthusiastic about Diana. I wish I lived in the Los Angeles area.

Gaban, thanks for the Elliott video. Very sweet stuff.

Yeah thats interesting about the ticket sales for that show kelly is doing. The economic situation doesnt help with tickets sales either so prices are probably a big factor on how much they will sell.

on a related note soundscene found some ticket sales info from DA’s solo tour. These are just the dates found so far.

City Attendance/Capacity Price – Gross Sales
Boise 1030/1000 $24 – $22,902
Chicago 1300/1300 $23 – $33,132
Sayreville 1151/1151 $24.50 – $28,775
Oklahoma City 1000/1000 $24 – $24,000
Allentown 1300/1300 $20 – $26,000
Beaumont 581/581 $26 – $14,525
San Antonio 700/700 $29.50 – $16,800
Virginia Beach 1255/1255 $25 – $27,790
Madison 900/800 $23.50 – $21,244

I was at the Boise and Chicago one! I see that the Boise show oversold.. the room we were packed in before going to the actual concert area was a madhouse. I’m really glad ppl are turning out for him though in this economic time.

Elliott is a sweetheart! I hope his new song goes well for him.

Ahh I can only imagine IGC. Ive seena few pics of people packe din like sardines even before the concert… I’d probably have an anxiety attack hahaha

I’m no accountant or music manager but as I see it:

Average take: $20,000…split between the house (security, lighting, ticket sales, advertising) and the performer.

Out of Davids $10,000 share: hotel costs per night 10 people (give or take) at $150 = $1,500. 10% share for opening act = $1,000. Salaries for David’s peep = $1500. Food = $500. Bus and Gas = $500. Incidental costs: (insurance, personal security, etc. = $1,000. David and his management share = $3000.

10 shows $30,000. Doesn’t look like much but it sure adds up!

One thing about those figures is that some of the venues actually held and sold 2000 tickets.. why does this place only report half?

Where are you getting those estimated figures, Tess? That’s not like the splits for the bands that I know.

Based upon your estimates, since Cook is playing college venues which are mostly smaller and he’s charging less per ticket for the college venues, he would be losing money at almost every show. That would be sad.

Oh i have no idea how they report figures LOL I just post what I find.. hahaha

It’s funny that all these articles above mention that Adam Lambert is this big draw for American Idol this year, yet this week Kellie Pickler pulled in more ratings during the results show this week than did Adam Lambert and the rest of the contestants combined who performed the night prior to Kellie. Obviously this Lambert dude and the rest of the cast this year are no match compared to a mega star from the show like Kellie Pickler so I fail to see what all the fuss is about in regards to this media hype about Lambert. Perhaps media should have focused their articles on Kellie instead of these unpopular singers from this years show, then maybe their readers might find the articles worth reading, because ignoring what Americans want the most like Kellie Pickler is only causing media to go broke and lay off 1,000′s upon 1,000′s of workers. (Example – USA Today and Gannett who publish almost 1,000 newspapers, stock price was 90.00 a couple years ago, today it sits at 2 dollars and change). And if anyone thinks Taylor Swift fans tuned in because Kellie performed I’m afraid their mistaken, otherwise why didn’t Kellie see a huge rise in sales last week when her music video came out which shoved this Taylor Not So Swift through out that video performance, I guarentee you’ll see far greater sales this week now that this phony Swift was excluded from Kellie’s performance. And this Flo Rida obviously didn’t bring much to the table seeing how it was only Kellie’s name who rose to the top of the searches this past week at places like Twitter etc. Nope, I’m afraid these singers like Lambert and Co. don’t hold a candle to the likes of Kellie Pickler, but then does anyone in country music today, apparently not seeing how Carrie Udderwood, Brad Paisley, and Randy Travis couldn’t even get higher ratings for their results show performances over the prior night. But then David Cook and Lady Gaga couldn’t get higher ratings than the performance night either. Nope, only Kellie Pickler was able to manage this feat of attracting more viewers, which leads us to ask Simon Fuller once again why he hasn’t used that TV contract he signed Kellie to, or is it because he knows American Idol would only come in 2nd in the ratings while Kellie would take the #1 spot every week. That would be my guess, and it’s a shame the American viewers have to be deprived of the talent they truly want, all because Simon Fuller isn’t man enough to admit that Kellie Pickler is more popular than Idol itself.

It’s no wonder we’ve seen Simon Fuller and Sony try to rape Kellie’s career every chance they get when it comes to promoting her and her music. With her being the most popular singer from this show they obviously know it would be nearly impossible to sell some of these less popular singers who supposedly won this bogus show like Carrie, Jordin, etc. But who is fooling who, Simon (19) and Sony obviously aren’t fooling the music fans, seeing how so few are buying music nowadays. So it’s no surprise when we find Sony losing money this past year instead of making a profit. It’s also no surprise to find radio companies like Clear Channel who bought up 100′s of radio stations the past few years, only to watch their stock tank to just a couple dollars all because they refuse to play the most popular singers like Kellie and instead choose to play these less popular Idol singers that Simon and Sony are pushing like Udderwood, Daughtry, etc. Let’s face it, the numbers don’t lie, the music industry and media are suffering far more than the rest of the economy and stock market and the reason is clearly because they refuse to give the American public what they truly want, that being great artists like Kellie Pickler and her music. They no longer see my money, I refuse to support this crooked industry, and judging by the industries poor sales I’m not alone. I bought Kelly Clarksons first album, I was duped into buying Carrie’s first, I also bought Kellie’s first album which was brilliant, but you won’t find me buying their most recent albums anymore than you’ll find me buying anymore Martina McBride albums or any others Sony chooses to release. These singers can thank Sony and Simon Fuller for their sales loss.

The music industry is either going to start kissing music fans asses like mine or they won’t be part of the music industry much longer. That’s my prediction.

Wow. Just… Wow. :eek_wp:

Right Jolene…. :eek_wp:

Ill just wait for the Sparknotes version.

The music industry is either going to start kissing music fans @sses like mine or they wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t be part of the music industry much longer.

I wish they would kiss mine because I hate top 40 right now.

Ill just wait for the Sparknotes version.

I think the person tried to say that the ratings were higher for Picklers than the ratings were for when Underwood and Cook performed. But the fact is the ratings were higher on the nights when Underwood, and Cook performed.

I wish they would kiss mine because I hate top 40 right now.

Top 40 is not as enjoyable as it was a year ago to mainstream listeners because they are starting to play more urban and hip hop music that is on heavy rotation. I also think that top 40 is geared for tweens and very young teenagers and not college students and adults 30 and over. Hopefully one day top 40 will revert back to its former glory days and play music that most people enjoy.

wow..I hope you let it all out. That was a looong post.

Kellie Pickler is a great artist and is more popular than Carrie Underwood and Daughtry?

Since it’s not April 1st, methinks someone’s been sneaking a few sips from Paula’s cup…

Or else we’re all being punk’d…

wow..I hope you let it all out.

LOL Indeed. And while RebelWithACause catches their breath she/he could surf around this blog and find the ratings for this season and understand that post is full of non truths. Results nights have been getting better ratings than performances night, and that hasn’t happened just this week.

Based upon your estimates, since Cook is playing college venues which are mostly smaller and heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s charging less per ticket for the college venues, he would be losing money at almost every show. That would be sad.

I don’t know really know how this works, but we know Cook is getting 10K or around it for those college shows, it has been said by college venues. Seems like that’s what they pay even before tickets go on sale, when venue/artist make the deal. So I’m not sure how that 50/50 works after tickets are sold. Do artists get something extra from the tickets sold?
I don’t know if David is losing money at those venues, probably not making much though. But his tour is sponsored and he also plays casinos/festivals where tickets are a lot more expensive and they pay a lot more, that must help.

I’m a huge Pickler fan but I find Rebels post above a good bit biased in her behalf, but thats ok. I also like Carrie. Kellie has never had a top 10 single yet, Carries had scads of number 1s. Even Bucky, whom I also adore, has had 3 top 10 singles. I was hoping this current single of Kellie’s would be her breakout song, but so far doesnt appear to be. I do love the new video which debuted very well on CMT and GAC top 20. Its hilarious when the gal pulls open the shirt to flash the guy and her tee says Im pregnant. rofl Exactly how pickler said her cheating guy in her hometown ended up married. I do hope they do a video of Rocks Instead of Rice. I have a suspicion that all these really nasty posts about Kellie that have appeared on numerous message boards since Idol are from that particular gal, they are so vitrolic. I think my dander would be up if the ex girlfriend was writing songs about me that were not flattering, even if they are true.

Based upon your estimates, since Cook is playing college venues which are mostly smaller and heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s charging less per ticket for the college venues, he would be losing money at almost every show. That would be sad.

Cook may be (and I think probably is) charging a flat fee to the colleges for the college shows–so ticket prices only matter for the college. He’s then probably getting ticket revenue from the non-college shows. There was a website that listed Cook’s and other artists’ charges for playing college shows. I believe Cook was set at a $5,000 flat charge. He’s probably playing so many shows to try and recoup all his expenses, with the non-college shows partially making up for that.

yet this week Kellie Pickler pulled in more ratings during the results show this week than did Adam Lambert and the rest of the contestants combined who performed the night prior to Kellie.

I would bet a whole hell of a lot of people tuned in to see Flo Rida and not necessarily Kellie Pickler.

Kellie Pickler is a great artist and is more popular than Carrie Underwood and Daughtry?

Since ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not April 1st, methinks someoneà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s been sneaking a few sips from Paulaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s cupà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

No way, every word of that post about the indescribably awesome greatness of Kellie is true. And just think how much more indescribably and awesomely great she’d be if she could actually sing….

Okay, we’re being punked, right?

Ill just wait for the Sparknotes version.

wow..I hope you let it all out. That was a looong post.

Bahaha. This is what I love about MJ’s. Y’all are a witty bunch. I almost feel guilty saying this cuz I’m no stranger to posting rambling comments here, but so much word to the 2 quotes above. I started to skim and then my brain exploded and my eyes went crosseyed. But I like Kellie. And Carrie, and DC, and Kelly Clarkson. Looking forward to Jhud, Archie, and some other alum to come back and perform. Incidentally, I also don’t mind Flo Rida, Lady Gaga, and Kanye on the radio, even if they’re generally not so great on the AI stage. Heh.

Were they that dumb to advertise on the net how to do that?

I have heard rumors for a couple of years that you could use software to vote, but I didn’t know people from other countries were using the same. I never tried it because I was always scared my votes wouldn’t be counted if I used the software. So I just kept to my phone. I didn’t trust it.

But if you’re gonna vote using that software and you’re from out of the country how stupid are you to post a site how to do it?

leome:

But his tour is sponsored and he also plays casinos/festivals where tickets are a lot more expensive and they pay a lot more, that must help.

Cook’s doing pretty good. And the ticket prices for his Azalea fest concert cost $45.00, and according to the ticket office it was a sold out concert with over 5,000 people in attendance. So that one concert alone grossed over 225,000.00.

I’ve been reading that Adam’s videos on Youtube get the most hits then any other. Adam has a big fan following and we are not even to top 5 yet. At this stage it is Adam way ahead and then the rest are fighting for 2nd and 3rd place.

I believe that right now Adam is practically the winner and the others are competing for 2nd place.

At this stage it is Adam and then the rest are fighting for 2nd and 3rd place.

Sometimes the early frontrunner wins it all (Carrie, Taylor), sometimes a dark horse emerges (Cook, Kelly). Right now I don’t see anyone threaten Adam’s win, plus it looks like Idol wants him to win.

I think he’s winning this season easily.

I think during these hard economic times that some people not are going to concerts. Hopefully when the economy gets better that will all change.

re: Kellie

And just think how much more indescribably and awesomely great sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d be if she could actually singà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

LOL YES, THIS. Thanks noctem~

Right now I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see anyone threaten Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s win, plus it looks like Idol wants him to win.

I think heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s winning this season easily.

No kidding.

I use to work at the Borgata and I still have several contacts there…I know for a fact what he got paid for the two shows he played there and it was a heck of a lot more than $15,00 per show. He got paid a flat rate for the two shows together and the amount was the result of a bid between different casinos. The way it works in Atlantic City is the artist booking agent throws out a feeler to the different casinos there and the management accepts the highest offer. Borgata made a very, very good good offer. Hey he just had his tourbus upgraded to an even larger size so I suspect he’s not losing money LOL. I’m sure merchandise sales help with money too.

Trina what kinda merchandise does cookie have? I had wondered if he was selling merchandise cause I hadnt really heard much about it. lol

Trina what kinda merchandise does cookie have? I had wondered if he was selling merchandise cause I hadnt really heard much about it. lol

Different T-shirts, hoodies, posters, scarf… I guess it’s the typical stuff. It’s sold online too.
But David is donating part of the money he makes with merchandise. Money doesn’t see to be a problem.

Thanks leome Scarf eh? I love scarfs haha

I use to work at the Borgata and I still have several contacts thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦I know for a fact what he got paid for the two shows he played there and it was a heck of a lot more than $15,00 per show

Do you mean the $5,000 per show I posted? That was for the colleges–not the casinos. The website I got that from was a website specifically to book acts on college tours. Other bands were listed as well, along with Jon Stewart of all people. It was an industry website. Cook may have changed his price after I saw it, but that was what he was asking. If that’s not what you were referring to, sorry–didn’t know what figure you were talking about.

Thing is, for both Cook and Archie, their first solo tours are probably making money for them, but not like massive amounts. Even if they financed the tours on their own or got sponsorship, the labels probably take a cut anyway (360 deals). And small-to-midsize tours still have the same fixed costs as arena tours, except they don’t make as much. Once you’re at arena level you can really make bank.

The scarf is awesome, It’s my favorite DC merch. *grabby hands*

I need to see a pic of this scarf..

Crap I’m looking for the merchandise site and for the life of me can’t find it. It does have a pic of the scarf..

ETA: here it is

Did anyone catch the front page of the NY Times Style section? An amazing picture of Adam lambert on the Idol Stage with all the other losers, i mean contestants, standing behind him. Best pic ive seen out of ai8 yet. And the article deals mostly with his sexuality and his provocative pics. Its funny, once someone starts doing well, everyone tries to bring them down. Fortunately, i have no doubt that it wont affect Adam whatsoever.

Thanks trina

Oh cool scarf, hehe. Btw the black t-shirt is nice looking *nod nod*

Did anyone catch the front page of the NY Times Style section? An amazing picture of Adam lambert on the Idol Stage with all the other losers, i mean contestants, standing behind him. Best pic ive seen out of ai8 yet.

Gosh this season has become so dull.

Since some questioned my fact finding I went back and researched the ratings the past 8 weeks at tvbythenumbers.com and my comments prove to be right.

David Cook’s results night was #2 in the ratings that week while the performance night was #1.

Carrie’s results night came in #2 as well.

In all the prior 8 weeks, the results show came 2nd to the performance night except for one, that would be the week before Carries trashed performance, my guess would be Kelly Clarkson performed that night, another true mega star like Kellie Pickler of course.

As for this week we all know the results as they’ve already been posted here -

Kellie Pickler, featuring the results show with opening acts Frankie and Flo, comes in at #1 for the week.

While the performance night for American Idol Season 8 takes a back seat at #2 since the American public prefered watching Kellie to this other American Idol show.

Why didn’t Carrie and Brad Paisley get the #1 spot their week? Obviously because they don’t have the popularity as someone like Kellie I’m afraid. I’m sure that probably explains the pathetic sophmore slump her second cd is suffering. It’s not like she can blame the stores for not stocking her cds the way they’ve refused to stock Kellie’s even though her name appears on the BEST SELLERS isle. America just doesn’t seem to be interested in Carrie or her music I’m afraid, at least not as much as Kellie Pickler, as these rating results show us. But I think most country music fans have known this for quite some time. It’s only the industry that refuses to listen. And that refusal to listen is obviously costing the industry. ALOT! Just ask Joe Galante down there at Sony Music Nashville, he’s being laying off people left and right, apparently Joe refuses to accept that Kellie is his hottest country star today and is willing to take the company down with him in his false believes. It’s no wonder hardly anyone wants to invest in Sony stock anymore with delusional people like this and Clive Davis running around there at Sony Music trashing their best artist like Kellie and Kelly. I think these grandpas need to retire. Or get fired.

Here is a really great article from Malaysia. He talks about his false image portrayed by idol, his vocal paralysis some really good stuff.

http://www.star-ecentral.com/news/story.asp?file=/2009/4/13/music/3681299&sec=music

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“A lot of people went à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹oh you must have been so sadà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ and à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹werenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t you bummed?à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢. And I was like à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹noà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  he said, punctuating almost every sentence with a quirkly laugh. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I was fine. I know a lot of people were sad but I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think they should have been because I am totally happy.

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“The main thing for me wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t winning. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t understand how I made it so far because I just wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t in that competitive mindset. I was looking forward to making more music, and what opportunities would come after the show,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  he said, adding that he felt Cook is an à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“excellent winnerà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

-snip-

You may also think that he comes from a competitive background simply because he was portrayed that way on the show à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ what with being fed with the footage of his Star Search participation, as well as the whole brouhaha over his father Jeffà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s controlling behaviour during the American Idol.

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s funny that Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m known for competitions when Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not a competitive person,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Archuleta emphasised. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I only did one talent show when I was 10 (the Utah Talent Competition). And then Star Search at 12.

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“In the competitions that Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve done, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve never had a competitive mindset. They were just opportunities for me to sing. I just love to sing,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  he said, adding that his dad (along with the rest of his family) keeps him grounded most of the time.”

Archuleta is happy that the album represents what he loves to do as a singer. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“On American Idol, people really didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get a chance to see the kind of singer I wanted to be. I am young and I like soulful pop. I listen to the Top 40. I am not the kind of person who sings classic standards all the time. I want to be able to relate with people my age.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

lots lots more at link.

While the performance night for American Idol Season 8 takes a back seat at #2 since the American public prefered watching Kellie to this other American Idol show.

Maybe Kellie Pickler or Flo Rida have more non-Idol-watching fans than other performers in past results shows. It doesn’t only depend on how much more popular somebody is, but also whether that performer’s audience overlaps with the Idol audience. If they don’t overlap as much, you’ll get the Idol audience tuning in plus the performer’s fans.

I tend to think the increased audience rested on Flo Rida more than Kellie Pickler, because Kellie’s audience probably overlaps the Idol audience (country music and all). If a performer trends more urban, or younger, you’ll probably see an increased rating. Idol trends very mainstream and older.

soundscene: I think this is the college tour link you’re looking for.

http://www.main-stageproductions.com/music

soundscene: I think this is the college tour link youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re looking for.

http://www.main-stageproductions.com/music

Ah, thanks yes, that was it. Thanks. I see Cook isn’t booking anymore college shows.

Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s only the industry that refuses to listen. And that refusal to listen is obviously costing the industry. ALOT!

So the economic downturn and the slump in music sales is all because of Kellie Pickler?

I KNEW it!

Her and those red high heels… its all her fault… such a shame… if only she wore black heels instead. *shakes head*

Kelly Pickler :lol_tb:

edit: I would really hate to ban you. But I will.

I see Cook isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t booking anymore college shows.

Well, school lets out next month for the summer. He’s probably booked as many as possible into May. Then he starts on the fair/festival circuit.

Re: the college tour – despite the concerns early on, it has done so well. His own memories of attending the same types of concerts when he was in college was the impetus for his first solo tour, but there was also the more practical need to expand his existing fanbase. Getting kids to attend who just wanted to go to a cheap/free concert, or who had nothing better to do, was pretty much what he wanted. If a handful of kids from each of these college shows becomes a fan, then he’s accomplished what he set out to do. Start small and build, just like any new, upcoming artist.

He could have sold out larger forums to existing fans, but went smaller – and tried to pick up new fans. I think it was a brave way to go, especially not knowing what his reception would be among the college crowd. From what I’ve seen, its been incredibly successful.

Now, if he would just come to a fair in my neck of the woods.

Etd: oops, spelled school wrong. heh.

soundscene: Your welcome.

They extended Cook’s college tour, and added a few more colleges.

Here’s a link for information for both of the David’s concerts.

http://idolstages.com/locations/ontour/2009-david-and-david

Their Manila concert has the potential to hold 15,000 or more concert goers. And I’m am keeping my fingers crossed that it will sell out and create a lot of buzz for both of them.

Manilla holds alot more than 15,000. lol Btw thats the site the tour attendance came from.

Their Manila concert has the potential to hold 15,000 or more concert goers.

There’s a zero missing here, I think.

lovegoodmusic, you’re comparing two Wednesdays, while RebelWithACause is comparing the results shows to the same week’s performance shows (Wednesdays to Tuesdays).

RebelWithACause:

David Cookà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s results night was #2 in the ratings that week while the performance night was #1.

No it is the other way around. Here’s a link for Idol ratings from MJ’s Blog.

http://mjsbigblog.com/american-idol-ratings-wednesday-holds-steady.htm

This Wednesday

22.43 million viewers and a 7.8 rating/20 share among adults 18-49 from 8-9 p.m.

Last Wednesday: 23.71 million viewers and a 8.1/21 rating/share among adults 18-49

If I’m not mistaken more people are watching the result shows this year than the regular show.

If Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not mistaken more people are watching the result shows this year than the regular show.

Can this be explained because more people record the performances (in case they want to save any of them) and just watch the results show live? Out of all my friends and family who watch Idol, I am the only one – the only one – who still watches the performance show live.

Elliott – We love you for continuing to come back to your hometown to raise moeny for the JDRF! Please come back next year!!!!

Kellie Pickler is the greatest artist ever…….no one even comes close……..enough said. TSSSSSS!

http://tvbythenumbers.com/category/ratings/nielsen-weekly-top-broadcast-tv-show-ratings

This is where I get my weekly ratings numbers from. These numbers come from Neilsen. They show Cooks results night to come in 2nd that week. The performance night came in first.

On the topic of ticket sales (Archie’s):

IGetCranked
Apr 12th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
One thing about those figures is that some of the venues actually held and sold 2000 tickets.. why does this place only report half?

Oh… I think you may be referring to Starland Ballroom. From their own site it says:
Starland’s capacity is expandable depending on the show, ticket demand, etc.

It’s true that Starland has sold shows for over 2500 many times, but… David’s show was configured for 1150 and he sold 1151. Perfect size for him!

Jolene:

youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re comparing two Wednesdays, while RebelWithACause is comparing the results shows to the same weekà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s performance shows (Wednesdays to Tuesdays).

I’m sorry if I didn’t make myself clear. :sad_wp: What I meant to say is for two weeks in a row the Wednesday result shows had higher ratings than the actual Tuesday judges/performance shows. And the April 1st result show had more viewers than the April 8th result show.

Tues March 31st 23.46 million viewers
Wed: April 1st 23.71 million viewers

Tues April 7Th 21.99 million viewers
Wed April 8th 22.43 million viewers

Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s true that Starland has sold shows for over 2500 many times, butà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ Davidà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s show was configured for 1150 and he sold 1151. Perfect size for him!

It’s true that Starland is configurable, but he could have sold out the place to full capacity–that was the city where he sold out in 4 minutes. I’m not entirely sure why they capped it at 1151. David himself kept saying he wanted to limit the size of his solo shows, and even the E-Center in Utah was configured to around 3500 at first until they allowed it to be expanded to 6500. But you would think, since other stops were over 2000, that they would allow the Starland to go to full capacity.

the April 1st result show had more viewers than the April 8th result show.

Tues March 31st 23.46 million viewers
Wed: April 1st 23.71 million viewers

Tues April 7Th 21.99 million viewers
Wed April 8th 22.43 million viewers

RebelWithACause is comparing the results shows to the same weekà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s performance shows (Wednesdays to Tuesdays).

Haha, I get it. So lower absolute ratings still means the April 8th night was more popular since it had higher ratings relative to the previous night, despite the fact that the previous night’s ratings were *really* low? Hmm, I believe this is what some people call… spin?

RebelWithACause…Yup I tuned into the results show just to watch Kellie Pickler…and her two new friends. I also wanted to see which of Dolly’s wigs she had chosen for the night, how much make-up she would be wearing, whether she would fall off of her shoes, again, and whether she was wearing enough support underthings to make her dress look sleek and tight!

Seriously….I am glad you are Kellie’s most devoted fan. She is very lucky to have you. Are there anymore of you out there?

(She says, all with tongue firmly planted in cheek)

Ah, thanks yes, that was it. Thanks. I see Cook isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t booking anymore college shows.

The entry for David Cook has looked like that on main-stageproductions.com since some time in January IIRC. It seemed as though one day the site said that he could be booked for shows for $10K (IIRC) for venues of 1000 or less, and the very next day, the site said he was fully booked and no longer booking any more shows. This actually makes a lot of sense as I’ve read plenty of articles in the local college’s papers talking about how they were surprised that David could be booked for such a low fee and that they had to act quickly. As for the non-college shows (i.e., casinos), it seemed that those were booked before the college ones because people began seeing notices for them (e.g., Beau Rivage and Ameristar) somewhat simultaneously to people finding the link to Main Stage Productions.

Would the DWTS Results Show affecr the ratings for Tuesday nights (in the past)?

It makes me sad that some blogger uses their forum to slaughter Anoop Desai.