Idol Headlines for 01/16/10

Mediabase update:

15-01-2010

POP:
34 33 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 1811 1630 181 13.77
+9 Spins
-74 Bullet
+0.027 AI

HAC:
40 39 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 386 312 74 1.506
+16 Spins
+4 Bullet
+0.035 AI

POP:
27 26 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dying 2907 2399 508 16.831
+115 Spins
+99 Bullet
+0.919 AI

HAC:
12 10 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dying 2389 2223 166 12.517
+26 Spins
+17 Bullet
+0.077 AI

As for AT40, seems WWFM made it to #39 and LLWD is at #28.

Just noticed on the VH1 countdown voting page, they listed WWFM. Wonder if it will make the countdown since, I assume, it was only on there since Friday.

WWFM already has almost 69K views on vh1.com

@saga really? WWFM made it into the top40?
Excellent news!

wow LLWD still rising! Great it’s breaking the HAC top 10!!

Just noticed on the VH1 countdown voting page, they listed WWFM. Wonder if it will make the countdown since, I assume, it was only on there since Friday.

no it can’t make the countdown because i think it was just added to be part of voting for next week’s countdown (and it was just released yesterday)…you can’t vote for anything until tomorrow, or monday i think….but good that it was added to the voting list right away

It will be interesting to see what happens at the OHP this weekend… I wonder if they’ll play WWFM.

O_O @ LLWD. I don’t think I’ve seen something rise that much in a while.

OH YEAH! I also forgot, I heard WWFM on the radio yesterday. Such a great song.

LLWD and WWFM FTW! Now, for your next singles, wanna try AWM and Soaked? BWCU or If I Had You (didn’t wanna use too many acronyms) would also be good choices. And it’s still a little early to say something about Adam’s single >_>.

World needs more Allison though. What should hers be? My favorite on her album is Don’t Waste The Pretty, but I think Holiday/Robot Love would be good too.

btw watching the vh1 countdown, and if i close my eyes i honestly cannot tell the difference between shinedown, nickelback and daughtry…..

St Jude’s article about the Country Cares event, where Carrie Underwood and Danny Gokey are participating in Memphis. Danny’s still there, I think, not sure about Carrie.

http://www.countrycares.org/content/latest_stories.cfm?content_id=264

Some short video interviews here, including both Danny and Carrie. Carrie looks almost like she’s tearing up a little in part of hers, sweet.

StJude: Watch clips of the country music stars’ interviews from earlier today at http://bit.ly/60xJEy

btw watching the vh1 countdown, and if i close my eyes i honestly cannot tell the difference between shinedown, nickelback and daughtry…..

I really like Daughtry, but yeah, I agree.

Just a word on the Pop chart on Mediabase today. Anybody following the charts closely may have noticed that there was a bit of a Sea Change. For instance, “Use Somebody” fell below 20 while Miley Cyrus suddenly jumped up from just yesterday. Jay Sean’s Down suddenly got back a rather large bullet. There are also some other HUGE gains on the chart on this update.

Today, Mediabase added 6 new Pop stations to its monitored list. Sadly for our Idols on the charts, those Pop stations lean towards Rhythmic/R&B/Urban so these new stations won’t help them all that much (for instance, LLWD was closing in on Drake’s song, but “Forever” has now moved beyond reach).

Oh well, these things happen. Just an explanation for some of the major hops and why the gains are so big today.

O_O @ LLWD. I don’t think I’ve seen something rise that much in a while.

Pop is seeing some strange updates today (large spins increases) because mediabase added 6 more unmonitored stations. Not sure that is the reason behind LLWD’s increase but just so everyone knows…

you can’t vote for anything until tomorrow, or monday i think….but good that it was added to the voting list right away

That makes sense. Just confusing because when you go to vote, it lists it as week of 1/8 to 1/15.

ETA..thanks Kristen and saga for the reasons behind the jumps on mediabase. Also, Adam has a large audience for a lower ranked mediabase song. He needs the smaller stations to add him so he can increase the spins (at least I think this is what is happening lol)

Kirsten, seems like KOL will be kicked out tomorrow. I think Miley will drop as well.

Were did you read that WWFM debut at 39 on Top40?

Were did you read that WWFM debut at 39 on Top40?

http://pulsemusic.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=pop&action=display&thread=93073

Kirsten, seems like KOL will be kicked out tomorrow. I think Miley will drop as well.

Yep. It looks like Gaga will wrestle Miley out of the top 20 tomorrow so we should see two songs go recurrent this week. Although, there is a chance that Cascada could tumble below Miley and keep her afloat for a week. Cascada isn’t eligible to go recurrent until next week.

Meanwhile, people may have noticed that Justin Bieber’s “One Less Lonely Girl” looks like it’s about to stall (actually, the little dude seems to manage to have amazing sales despite not getting top 10 hits on Pop). Part of that is likely because they are sending a new song for adds on Jan 26th so radio is going to switch to that one. So be prepared for one song to go down while another races up the chart.

Thank you Saga

Meanwhile, people may have noticed that Justin Bieber’s “One Less Lonely Girl” looks like it’s about to stall (actually, the little dude seems to manage to have amazing sales despite not getting top 10 hits on Pop). Part of that is likely because they are sending a new song for adds on Jan 26th so radio is going to switch to that one. So be prepared for one song to go down while another races up the chart.

Haha, I was suprised by him not doing so well also. He is selling really well though!

did anyone watch the VH1 Countdown this morning? Where did the Idols land on the chart?

Were did you read that WWFM debut at 39 on Top40?

http://pulsemusic.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=pop&action=display&thread=93073

Is this the show that is going to air this weekend? or next weekend? or the weekend after?

OT, Waking Up in Vegas is still on the chart? I haven’t heard that song since this summer, when i heard it all the time (love that song btw)

“btw watching the vh1 countdown, and if i close my eyes i honestly cannot tell the difference between shinedown, nickelback and daughtry…..”

It’s easy. Daughtry is the completely awesome one.

I’ve seen the Daughtry = Nickelback vocally comment about umpteen thousand times, and every time I wonder if the person commenting knows or listens to the rock genre very much, because vocally Chad Kroeger and Chris Daughtry sound about as much alike as Jon Bon Jovi sounds like Axl Rose… not close at all to fans of rock, but maybe to a casual listener who doesn’t like the genre they would sound similar.

Now the guy from Shinedown (Brent Smith) and Chris Daughtry actually *do* sound similar (though still distinct if you really listen). I first noticed the similarity vocally there way back on Season 5 when Chris chose to sing a Shinedown song, ‘I Dare You’. Even though he was vocally tired that particular week and you could hear strain on the top notes it did strike me that the two voices were very similar in tone and range. Both are very good singers, but I believe judging solely from live performances that Chris is the superior singer of the two.

But yeah, Daughtry and Kroeger do not sound alike (at least vocally) at all, so I can’t agree with you on that. But hey, no biggie. If you put 3 different rap songs in front of me, I wouldn’t be able to tell the difference (I don’t like the genre and it all sounds the same to me), so I get that music is subjective to the listener. As long as everyone gets the chance to compete and the freedom to put out their own particular brand of art, the best acts will always succeed as long as they work hard. And Daughtry is one of my favorite success stories

my daily inquiry? any new info re kradison nyc concert?

It’s easy. Daughtry is the completely awesome one.

lol. i wasn’t trying to diss daughtry — love him. have a bunch of stuff from his first cd on my ipod. not so much the second one tho.

Is this the show that is going to air this weekend? or next weekend? or the weekend after?

This weekend. A person who has already heard the countdown on the radio created that post (they do it each week updating it as the show progresses).

So, we can surmise that it’s good news for LLWD and WWFM that they didn’t LOSE ground when the 6 new stations were added?

I think it does but need an expert to weigh in on this please.

ETA…and when did Adam get a second piercing in his ear?

did anyone watch the VH1 Countdown this morning? Where did the Idols land on the chart?

#7 CC – Carrie Underwood (lw 7)
#5 LLWD – Kris Allen (lw 6)
#1 LAY – Daughtry (lw 3)

But yeah, Daughtry and Kroeger do not sound alike (at least vocally) at all, so I can’t agree with you on that.

No fan of Daughtry, but I have to agree. Kroeger’s voice is all kinds of gravelly. All those frogs in Vanessa’s mom’s stomache? They normally live in Chad’s throat. Dude could stand to gargle before he starts singing.

On rock radio, Chad’s junkyard dog voice is not an issue, but he sounds nothing like Chris (though, I did kind of think that the some of the instrumental part “Far Away” and “It’s Not Over” sounded a lot alike)

ITA, Daniel B. I’ve always been particularly surprised by the “can’t tell Chad and Chris” comments, because even though they’ve musically sounded quite similar at times, I’d have thought even someone who doesn’t focus all that heavily on rock in their listening habits would be able to make the distinction. There are a number of voices in that genre which run pretty close to each other, but I’ve always thought that Chris (and, actually, to a lesser degree Chad, though not all in a good way) has a pretty distinctive vocal. Chris’s vocal is also just a lot better than most singers in his given genre as well, which is a bonus for sure.

There are some more instrumental similarities, though, to be sure. But I’m not sure, comparatively, how much of that is genre and how much of that is the two writing styles.

WWFM is #34 itunes. I think that’s the highest so far. Seems like it has risen around 10 positions since the MV was released.

Semi – Itunes update:

Singles:
WWFM – 34
LLWD – 17

Albums:
KA – 79
FYE – 94

Looking good boys! (Semi because I only listed Kris and Adam)

yay for all the idols on this week’s AT40! kelly chris kris and adam! just curious, have there ever been 4 at a time before?

Yay for Daughtry being #1 and Kris for being #5 on the VH1 Countdown. Woo-hoo!

Singles:
WWFM – 34
LLWD – 17

Albums:
KA – 79
FYE – 94

terrific! and the nondeluxe fye cd is still hanging around the top 200 as well (seems to generally flit between 170s and 190s)

Funny how Simon Fuller calls talk of a rivalry “grossly exaggerated” and then goes on to basically trash X-Factor and Simon’s pride-and-joy SuBo.

Fuller plans to keep Idol relevant, with a $40 million budget for Cowell’s replacement and new online auditions that will launch through the MySpace social network next year.

What the hell does that mean? That he’s going to pay Simon’s replacement $40 mill? And what is this about online auditions for AI? I think they’re getting that confused with Fuller’s new online project that has nothing to with Idol.

ETA: I just discovered the $40 mill thing is explained later in the article, and that is exactly what it means:

“We’ve got a budget of $40 million (£25 million) to spend on a new judge,” a source close to the show said. “That means it’s unlikely to be the Piers Morgans. It’s the Elton Johns and the Madonnas.”

yes an another good news on VH1 is that WWFM video was released yestarday and has already 69,093 views

I think it will on the countdown soon

Great day for Idols!!!!!!

http://www.ksdk.com/life/programming/local/showme/story.aspx?storyid=193846&catid=78

I think after 4 years of nonstop touring, I’m going to take a little bit of a break and write another record. And I’ve got some offer sto do TV and film stuff.”

I give kudos to Taylor Hicks for keeping his name out there by starring in Grease. I mean, the freshman winner album failed to connect at large, so a man’s gotta do what a man’s gotta do. Plus, the stage is where he belongs, in whatever capacity. I look forward to him taking his time to chillax and get back in touch with his musical self for that 3rd post-idol effort. To me, the Distance was better than the first album but he still ain’t there just yet.

I come from Alabama, which is ground zero, as far as civil rights go.”

As a white American and a resident of the great state of Tennessee, I am proud to know and work with so many African-Americans and I detest the horrendous injustices of our past. Even though racism still exists in some circles, we are not steeped in racism here. Happy MLK, Jr. day!

I think they should do the judging panel as the competition next season. Call back some previous contestants who got booted too early, and let them sing every week and get critiques from three judge wannabes, and America can vote for the potential judges, with the highest vote-getter staying and going on to compete again the next week.

Start with Ellen, Randy and Kara, and I bet Ellen gets to stay. Keep adding in more judge candidates until there’s a good mix, with the highest three votegetters over the season as your final panel. And what’s wrong with an AI panel consisting of Ellen DeGeneres, Howard Stern and Donny Osmond?

@kelliepickler: I’m tweeting from a helicopter…flying over Baghdad.

(In my comment above I meant to say “I think they’re getting that confused with Fuller’s new online project that has nothing to do with Idol.” Here we have edit back and I missed it.)

smartcookie I like your idea, especially Howard Stern as Simon’s replacement.

Funny how Simon Fuller calls talk of a rivalry “grossly exaggerated” and then goes on to basically trash X-Factor and Simon’s pride-and-joy SuBo.

Love it. I actually think he makes a good comparison between the two shows. American Idol is more pure boxing and X-factor is like World Wide Wrestling. Hee.

Chris’s vocal is also just a lot better than most singers in his given genre as well, which is a bonus for sure.

Well, this is true of Idols across the board, but especially in the rock area. After all, AI’s a singing competition foremost and if you’ve advanced far enough in the competition, you are clearly a good singer and especially within your own genre.

Of course, out in the non-Idol world, success in rock doesn’t necessarily have to do with singing. It can be about the way a band sounds together, the songwriting, the presentation. Sometimes the singing is not the strongest element. So, naturally a rock singer who goes far on Idol is going to have a leg up on their fellow rock performers. I recall when David Cook sang The World I Know by Collective Soul that Ed Roland was very complimentary saying that David had sung the song better than he because his strongest suit was not necessarily his voice. Roland talked about how his voice was one of the better in his band. So, by process of elimination and talent, he became the singer. Not because Roland was an excellent singer but because he was the better in his band. So, he enjoyed hearing David singing the song, because David was an actual singer on top of all the other stuff rockers do.

Start with Ellen, Randy and Kara, and I bet Ellen gets to stay. Keep adding in more judge candidates until there’s a good mix, with the highest three votegetters over the season as your final panel. And what’s wrong with an AI panel consisting of Ellen DeGeneres, Howard Stern and Donny Osmond?

I don’t know. Americans are wishy washy when it comes to voting people on and off reality shows. They tend to kick off people who are mean or unpleasant. (Just think of the first Big Brother when the vote was totally in the hands of the viewing audience. Americans kept voting off all the “bad,” interesting people, and so the show switched it such that fellow contestants voted people off, not the viewers.) Considering this, I would expect that the viewing audience would’ve voted off Simon from the get-go, having never seen him before and not liking his “attitude.”

Semi Canadian iTunes update
Singles:
WWFM – 38
LLWD – 173

Albums:
KA – –
FYE – 29

FYE video – 11

Unfortunately Kris isn’t doing as well over here.
Adam’s album jumped from 71 to 29 in two days (starting to wonder if I can trust my feed, but those are the numbers) WWFM from 44 to 38 in these two days.

Singles:
WWFM – 34
LLWD – 17

Sorry…this incorrect.

It should read:

WWFM – 33
LLWD – 16

AlliB

I saw that a couple of Canadian stations added LLWD last week, so maybe it will start getting more spins in the next couple weeks. Canada loves them some Adam — FYE did pretty well there, too

oh, LLWD has moved back up to #16 on iTunes chart

Fantasia made Billboard Best Bets 2010: The Year In Music Ahead

I’m bolding the last line because it’s music to my ears and what I’ve wanted from Fantasia forever:

Fantasia, Title TBD (J/RCA Music Group)
Release Date: March 2010

When Fantasia’s VH1 reality series, “Fantasia for Real,” premiered Jan. 11, it included footage of her working on her third studio album. The as-yet-untitled CD will capture the melodic storytelling qualities of earlier Fantasia hits like “Truth Is” and “When I See You,” reflecting the pain and tears of relationship turbulence. “We want to honor that sound,” RCA/Jive Label Group senior VP of A&R Keith Naftaly says. “But Fantasia is very much a warm, fun-loving spirit. So there is a lot of optimism and triumph on the album as well.” The songwriter and producer lineup includes Carlos “Los Da Mystro” McKinney and Rico Love, Chris “Tricky” Stewart, Novel, Jim Jonsin and Claude Kelly, whom, Naftaly says, has an “amazing way of decoding things in Fantasia’s head and turning them into incredible songs.” Missy Elliott and John Legend pitch in with songs as well. Recorded tracks range from “Can’t Be Without You,” a reimagination of Dorothy Moore’s 1976 R&B/pop hit “Misty Blue,” to the Lauryn Hill-influenced “Trust Him” and “The Thrill Is Gone” (not the B.B. King classic), featuring Cee-Lo. Also on tap, Naftaly adds, is a rock song that “will enable Fantasia to unleash her inner Tina Turner.”

Also Kevin Sorbo spilled what appears to be Carrie’s movie debut. It’s the story of Bethany Hamilton, the surfer who lost an arm in a shark attack but came back stronger than ever.

http://twitter.com/ksorbs/status/7828983737

name of movie is ‘soul surfer’. touching story. i will be starring with dennis quaid, helen hunt, carrie underwood, anna sophia robb.

Stands to reason that Anna Sophia Robb will play Bethany Hamilton. Helen Hunt and Dennis Quaid are presumably her parents. Not a bad cast. I don’t know if it’s a made for TV movie or something that’s meant for theaters. Sorbo tweeted that the shoot’s in Hawaii and starts Jan 25th. Carrie’s still got to shoot How I Met Your Mother this month in LA plus she’s involved in a Grammy event about songwriting on Jan 30th so I guess she’ll head out to Hawaii after that.

This is a link to Bethany’s story:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duelon0MF2o&feature=youtu.be

@kelliepickler: I’m tweeting from a helicopter…flying over Baghdad.

Good for Kellie, is she on a USO visit?

Country blogger posting about the Country Cares event with Danny and Carrie
http://www.countrymusictattletale.com/2010/01/16/21st-annual-country-music-cares-for-st-judes-kids

girlygirl they sure do love Adam, I just added the position for the mv for FYE, 11 now 13 yesterday morning, so still going up!
I hope Kris will find his way here too.

(I see I refer to Canadians as they, a dead give away I’m not a citizen! Just borrowing some living space in this beautiful country )

Hopefully Carrie will take some acting classes soon, if she is going to be doing all these acting roles.

And what is this about online auditions for AI? I think they’re getting that confused with Fuller’s new online project that has nothing to with Idol.

You could be right, but Canadian Idol did have online auditions during its most recent season (2008?). Maybe one of the Canadians remembers the details better than I do, but I think there was at least 1 semifinalist who had made it to their version of Hollywood week based on a video audition. They’ve already got the AI Experience at Disney World giving some people a jump on the audition line. This could be another interesting way to shake up the audition process, and get some contestants who are from more remote areas that Idol never chooses as audition cities.

Of the six new Pop stations on the panel, three were already spinning LLWD; one 52 times (!), the other two 20 & 12 times. (thanks BCU79)

Exciting about BWCU being played on the radio in the Philippines!
#teamBWCU

Does anyone know the answer to the question I aske above (sorry, its stuck in my head)…has there ever been 4 idols at one time on the AT40 chart? I’m thinking that jordin, chris, and the 2 davids may have all intersected, but not sure. I think it is great that this weeks countdown includes 4 idol alums and shows that the show can still churn out viable recording artists

I was surprised to see how well Fantasia’s show did in the ratings for VH1. For some reason, females and Idol together are a powerful combo. That doesn’t seem to reflect itself in Internet activity and fan bases which seem heavily “male” oriented but is in the general population. Female winners have sold more albums, won more Grammys and seem to have more longevity than the guys.

And women are dominating single and album charts at the moment. Hope Idol can find a really top female talent this year.

Bless you and be safe Kellie! That is such a terrific thing you are doing!!
I love some of Chris’s (D) songs but I can pick him singing out every time! He has a tendency to sound like a *billy goat* sometimes when he holds a note….drives me crazy…..(short trip for me!)

That tweet from Kellie Pickler tickled me (that’s a tongue twister). I like to think sometimes about the past contestants and what they’re doing now, compared to what they were probably doing before the show. It’s a thrill to see how their lives have changed and what a life they’re living now. They’re traveling all over, meeting all kinds of people, doing theater and tv and touring, it’s all good.

mmb
01/16/2010 at 12:07 pm
Does anyone know the answer to the question I aske above (sorry, its stuck in my head)…has there ever been 4 idols at one time on the AT40 chart? I’m thinking that jordin, chris, and the 2 davids may have all intersected, but not sure. I think it is great that this weeks countdown includes 4 idol alums and shows that the show can still churn out viable recording artists

I’m also curious about this, I never followed charts and sales or countdowns before Adam, lol, but I always noticed how many idols videos are in vh1 top 20! Talk about dedicated fan bases!

Idol trains its audience like Pavlov’s dogs. They’re so used to voting that they literally can’t stop. Almost anyone from Idol is guaranteed a high placement on VH1 (as long as the song in on a Top 40 chart). Usually even a small core of dedicated fans giving themselves carpal tunnel can get the job done. Who else would bother voting more than a few times for a VH1 countdown. Idol fans will literally vote thousands of times.

I’m surprised Daughtry is #1 though. Usually when Idols are big successes, the fans kind of chill. I guess there’s a push to help the album go platinum.

I know that the Crush and Light On videos were on the countdown at the same time. Daughtry’s first CD was still going strong, and I think he had a vid on the countdown (but I’m not sure about that), but I don’t recall if Jordin had one up.

They’ve already got the AI Experience at Disney World giving some people a jump on the audition line.

Now that you mention it, whatever happened to those winners from the AI Experience? Have we seen any of their auditions? Have any of them made it to Hollywood? I don’t recall any mention of it on the show.

When the videos hit #1, they’ve been short-lived up there, so I doubt Daughtry will stay there for more than a couple of weeks.

I think it is great that this weeks countdown includes 4 idol alums and shows that the show can still churn out viable recording artists

To add one more thing, agree with you that Idol can definately churn out viable artists, I think every season produced some impressive talent.

Brought over from the CC thread

Adam Lambert, Emily Blunt fashion winners at Critics’ Choice Movie Awards in Hollywood

The article is linked below, but doesn’t say much more past the headline.

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474977997327&grpId=3659174697243100&nav=Groupspace

Idol trains its audience like Pavlov’s dogs. They’re so used to voting that they literally can’t stop.

LOL! That made me chuckle.

Almost anyone from Idol is guaranteed a #1 on VH1 (as long as the song in on a Top 40 chart).

I don’t agree with the guaranteed #1. There’s so much more involved than just votes. I think sales, VH1 plays, and radio spins are just as important. Cook’s video for CBTM was sooooooo close to being on the Countdown for the 20 weeks to join Daughtry in VH1s 20 week club (or whatever they call it), and Cook’s fans were voting like crazy, but it fell a week or two short. He didn’t have the sales/spins at the time to keep it on.

ETA: Crush was at #1 for an extended period of time. I’m sure someone has the actual # of weeks.

I haven’t been following VH1 but I think you can stay at #1 for awhile before they retire the song. Sometimes they boot songs if it’s too obvious the voting is rigged though.

You’re right about the #1 thing. VH1 uses some formula that doesn’t just include fan votes for the video countdown.

Unfortunately Kris isn’t doing as well over here.
Adam’s album jumped from 71 to 29 in two days (starting to wonder if I can trust my feed, but those are the numbers) WWFM from 44 to 38 in these two days.

Several Canadian stations just picked up LLWD, so it’s not surprising that neither the single or album are doing well. People can’t buy something if they don’t know that it’s out there, that’s why radio is so important.

Ah… To wake up to a new season of Idolatry was a treat. I’ve missed that show.

I always feel like a crazy old grandma or Phoebe from Friends, wandering in with a non sequitur when everyone else is analyzing numbers and debating. Just don’t have it in me this morning.

I haven’t been following VH1 but I think you can stay at #1 for awhile before they retire the song. Sometimes they boot songs if it’s too obvious the voting is rigged though.

Songs are supposed to be retired at 20 weeks, but sometimes VH1 does it earlier than expected, usually because, as you said they expect fan groups have been voting in blocks, because an artist is preparing to release a new video, or just because they want to. LOL

My question was about the AT40 countdown, which is not based on fan votes. Anyhoo I hope that wwfm starts picking up more spins. It seems to be stalled despite all of those adds a few weeks ago

What is used to get on the AT40? Seems weird that Kris just made it last week, even though he debuted at 27 (I think?), and Adam made the list at 39.

Why wouldn’t Kris have made it before last week, in the 30s?

I guess I don’t know what the criteria is for that chart.

Is AT40 based solely on mediabase statistic but with other recurrent rules or is something else taken into account?

Ah… To wake up to a new season of Idolatry was a treat. I’ve missed that show.

It was phenomenal. Kristen having Danny Gokey’s kid? I nearly spit my hot chocolate all over the keyboard.

(Edited: I meant in no way to imply that *Kirsten* was having Danny Gokey’s kid. Sorry, Kirsten!)

babybelle, it’s quite possible that Adam is played more on the radio in Canada – I don’t listen to it, so I cannot be of help there. However, if stations here are picking up LLWD that may be the start of a good thing.
I know Kris’ album was in the iTunes top 100 until the end of the year or so – so he hasn’t gone unnoticed!

AT40 is based on mediabase and recurrents. For example, with recurrents added in, this week, WWFM is at #38 and LLWD is at #29. Plus, the countdown is taped two weeks in advance. LLWD would have made the countdown two weeks before the year ended, but the countdown switched to special programming, and didn’t resume the regular countdown until last weekend.

Hopefully Carrie will take some acting classes soon, if she is going to be doing all these acting roles.

I’m glad I’m not a casting director. The last person I would want in my movie would be Miss Underwood unless the part is just singing (where she would be terrific). I just thought you had to have some personality to be an Actor….but I guess I am wrong.

Now that you mention it, whatever happened to those winners from the AI Experience? Have we seen any of their auditions? Have any of them made it to Hollywood?

Aaron Kelly is one of those AIE winners who made it to Hollywood. His audition episode hasn’t been aired yet. I think he’s a strong contender to make final 24 (young, country, cutey-patootey, experienced, able to leap a cover in a single bound.)

Preview

Apparently, this guy is an NFL reporter:

JasonLaCanfora: Had the chance to have dinner with @thedavidcook and his family last night. Tremendously cool people and huge Chiefs fans. He knows football 21 minutes ago from web

babybelle, it’s quite possible that Adam is played more on the radio in Canada

You can see the Canadian stations that have added both songs, and even the ones that have not added them yet, on the mediabase add board site.

Of course some people are aware of Kris, since AI is aired in Canada, but neither he or Adam are going to get continuous sales without airplay. Canadian HAC stations jumped on FYE before stations in the states did. So, Adam has had a lot of visibility there.

Idolatry was pretty vile toward Danny at various times last year, but must say that first part of their opener for this year is pretty funny with Kristen rocking out to Danny’s single, and their replaying part of that comeback clip from Danny in Michael’s interview with him from the AI tour. Not to mention Kristen’s little “surprise,” lol.

Sassycatz
01/16/2010 at 1:05 pm
Apparently, this guy is an NFL reporter:

JasonLaCanfora: Had the chance to have dinner with @thedavidcook and his family last night. Tremendously cool people and huge Chiefs fans. He knows football 21 minutes ago from web

Cookie is going to win over the male fans by hook or by crook, damnit.

Re: Danny Gokey and Carrie U. at St. Jude’s Hospital. Think Steph6449 posted the link.

I would love if they toured together – now that would be a great show to go see.

I have to say that Idolatry is one of my favorite things about Idol season and I am SO happy to see that it is back!!!!

I heart Kristen with glasses.

Cookie is going to win over the male fans by hook or by crook, damnit.

He seems to be winning over the sportscasters one by one, fer shure. How cool for him to be getting opportunities like this one, sports lover that he is.

I just checked out that guys twitter, and he’s following David now. Cookified!!

I can think of a few Idol videos that never actually reached #1 so its not a guarantee. When Light on debuted at #1 I think it was said that was even more rare to do.

That Times article with Fuller, interesting that they mention the amount of votes David won by but still nothing about this past season. I guess that perecentage will remain a mystery?

Danny’s song “My Best Days” is number 1 on the bestselling items in country music in Japan on the Amazon Japan site. That’s cool. I love to see the international fans supporting Danny in places like Finland, UK and Japan:

http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/bestsellers/music/569332/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_m_1_3_last

OMG I love this! Apparently Jeff Gordon was on Sesame Street on Dec 28 2009 and one of the sketches had “Carrie Underworm” singing The Worm Anthem! It’s not Carrie singing though.

http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Episode_4203

Here’s the clip.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xboh5q_carrie-underworm_shortfilms

I hope Carrie keeps touring with opening acts with real country roots. I loved when she toured with Josh Turner. Little Big Town was a great opening act too. I’m looking forward to seeing if she and Craig Morgan sing something together on tour – they could do great on a country classic. I assume she’ll bring Sons Of Sylvia on to sing What Can I Say which should be great.

As far as the movie goes, it looks a little cheesy except for the fact that Helen Hunt and Dennis Quaid are respected actors. I doubt Carrie’ll have a big role but I hope she does some singing.

Now that you mention it, whatever happened to those winners from the AI Experience?

Aaron Kelly is one of those AIE winners who made it to Hollywood. His audition episode hasn’t been aired yet. I think he’s a strong contender to make final 24 (young, country, cutey-patootey, experienced, able to leap a cover in a single bound.)

I think it’s virtually guaranteed that one of the Top 24 will be an AE Experience winner, especially if one of them is a cute, male, country singer. The cross-marketing potential will be too much for them to ignore. Heck, they’ve already pimped the home game with a contestant who can’t sing.

I have to say that Idolatry is one of my favorite things about Idol season and I am SO happy to see that it is back!!!!

Slezak’s plug on Idolatry last year is what sent me to mjsbigblog, so thanks Michael!

Aaron Kelly is one of those AIE winners who made it to Hollywood. His audition episode hasn’t been aired yet. I think he’s a strong contender to make final 24 (young, country, cutey-patootey, experienced, able to leap a cover in a single bound.)

Thsnk you Kirsten. I have studiously avoided any of MJ’s spoilers or previews, but that is interesting. I wonder if there will be any resentment toward him among the plebes who had to endure the cattle calls.

Thsnk you Kirsten. I have studiously avoided any of MJ’s spoilers or previews, but that is interesting. I wonder if there will be any resentment toward him among the plebes who had to endure the cattle calls.

Probably not. He still had to face the main panel, after all. So I doubt anyone within the group will make a big deal out of it, as the process of late seems to be more binding than not.

LOL at that Simon v. Simon article in the TimesOnline. I love this quote:

The show will compete for Idol’s 30 million viewers, who have brought in billions of dollars in revenue to Fuller’s company, 19 Entertainment. More than 54 million people voted for David Cook, last year’s winner, while advertisers paid up to $1.3 million (£800,000) for a 30-second slot during the final.

Hah! Looks like they’ve already forgotten about Kris AND Adam!

Hah! Looks like they’ve already forgotten about Kris AND Adam!

You mean Kris? Adam didn’t win.

The show will compete for Idol’s 30 million viewers, who have brought in billions of dollars in revenue to Fuller’s company, 19 Entertainment. More than 54 million people voted for David Cook, last year’s winner, while advertisers paid up to $1.3 million (£800,000) for a 30-second slot during the final.

Hah! Looks like they’ve already forgotten about Kris AND Adam!

I don’t think it is a matter of forgetting, but I think (I could be wrong) that the viewership was higher for the David vs David finale, and for that matter during the season so I think ads would be more expensive?

And not to touch on a sensitive subject, but no one knows the vote for S9, so it would be tough to quote that Kris received ???????? votes.

Still wondering why they won’t release those numbers.

They never released S8 results. I have no idea why they didn’t. It would of cleared up the AT&T gate disgruntled fans were harping on.

Undercooked, I’m also still wondering why they do this -

More than 54 million people voted for David Cook, last year’s winner,

Isn’t the truth impressive enough? It sure was for most people. 54 million ‘votes’ came in for David Cook – that is not the same as 54 million ‘voters’ – sloppy journalists do that – what’s Fuller’s excuse?

And the theories about why no numbers from last season abound – TPTB seem determined to keep those a secret (snerk) – but considering their usual MO – “Best Season Evah!” I’m with the camp who believes they just weren’t as high as Season 7, by enough to be embarrassing to the show. They are not concerned about the contestants.

KISS principle, and all that jazz – or Occams Razor, if you prefer that view of it.

I’m just curious how many people reading Simon Fuller’s quote literally believe it was 54 million people not votes. (Not indicating anyone here would think that.)

They never released S8 results. I have no idea why they didn’t. It would of cleared up the AT&T gate disgruntled fans were harping on.

I know, it makes me sick that they decided to never clear this up.

u mean forgot about kris lol….wasnt kris the winner??

In response to mmb’s question, 4 Idols on the AT40 countdown (June 2, 2007): http://bit.ly/7K7m9o

12 08 (06) Daughtry – Home
10 11 (12) Carrie Underwood – Before He Cheats
15 18 (21) Daughtry – It’s Not Over
21 22 (05) Kelly Clarkson – Never Again
27 26 (03) Elliott Yamin – Wait For You

Also, this isn’t up to date, but it’s interesting.
http://www.at40.com/article/2046/index.html

My theory was one of two reasons why they never released the last numbers..either Kris one by a huge margin and they didn’t want to embarass Adam when they obviously had big marketing plans for him OR the margin was very close and a close total would have opened up another can of worms saying messed up since there were reports some couldn’t even get through. I dunno but then again did they actually reveal numbers other seasons other than 7? For that matter I never got why they broadcast those numbers..

I dunno but then again did they actually reveal numbers other seasons other than 7? For that matter I never got why they broadcast those numbers..

I don’t know if it was a matter of embarrassing or not embarrassing Adam. Archie was very popular and a judge favorite, but they didn’t have any issue saying Cook beat him my more than 10 million votes.

I don’t know why they didn’t release the numbers, but I don’t think it has to do with embarrasing Adam. He lost, but did make it to the finale. So who cares how much he lost by? I don’t see Archie as less of a runner up because he lost by a large margin to Cook.

I remember that Dial Idol indicated it was close margin, but that doesn’t include text votes. If it was a blowout victory for Kris wouldn’t he have broke David Cook’s record voter numbers or margin that he set. Maybe Kris did break this record and it will be in next year’s record book.

But the show has no reason to care how Adam is marketed, or any financial stake in his future career- that’s up to his label and his management – the only thing Adam, or any runner up or winner can do for them is create buzz during the season, to enhance their ad revenues and prestige due to adding viewers and voters. That’s where they focus, and why they stir up controversy.

After the Finale – they are on to the next “Best Season Evah” If the numbers are good, it’s good for AI to publicize them – for their own benefit. If not – they have no financial incentive to say so.

Their MO is ‘never explain, never apologize’ – and always spin. IMO. of course.

I remember that Dial Idol indicated it was close margin, but that doesn’t include text votes.

And this is where it gets a bit dodgy because of the whole AT&T controversy. If the text votes are what carried Kris to victory, then it opens up a can of worms. To be honest, if there were irregularities in voting (for both contestants) I really don’t thank AI would do anything about it. The finale is expensive and planned. It’s not like they have the time to wade through all of the votes and throw out the suspect ones. Also, at that point, I don’t think it matters because both the runner up and winner get contracts.

I don’t know if it was a matter of embarrassing or not embarrassing Adam. Archie was very popular and a judge favorite, but they didn’t have any issue saying Cook beat him my more than 10 million votes.

I voted for four hours straight for David Cook, but even I thought it was classless that they announced the totals. That was only the first time that they’ve done it during the show, and like the second or third time during the history of the show. When Ryan made the announcement there was something about it that just came off as being nasty. I don’t care what the totals are, Kris won, and that’s all that matters. It’s been eight months, I think we all know that it is past time to move on. Everybody is working on starting their careers, so knowing the totals don’t matter. The only thing it will accomplish is giving those who can’t move on a way to couch their arguments about why Kris didn’t really win, or give those who are such big fans of season 7 another way of comparing it against last season.

Interviews from a red carpet benefit event from Sound and Speed weekend in Nashville last week — charity events between country music artists and NASCAR stars. Danny appears first, and also of AI interest — Bucky Covington apparently is in there (didn’t play it that far, not a Bucky fan). From Danny’s comments, this must be the day after he performed at the Opry.

http://nashvillecountryclub.com/Members/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=2003

Victory Junction is a children’s charity founded by Kyle Petty, one of two charities supported by Sound and Speed. The other was the Country Music Hall of Fame.

54 million ‘votes’ came in for David Cook – that is not the same as 54 million ‘voters’ – sloppy journalists do that – what’s Fuller’s excuse?

Fuller didn’t say it, the sloppy journalist did.

And the theories about why no numbers from last season abound – TPTB seem determined to keep those a secret (snerk) – but considering their usual MO – “Best Season Evah!” I’m with the camp who believes they just weren’t as high as Season 7, by enough to be embarrassing to the show. They are not concerned about the contestants.

Except, if I recall correctly, they did release the total vote tally, close to 100 mill I believe, and I also believe it was a record number.

Here is yet another picture of David as the next Spider-Man…

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mTMx779hd-4/S1IQm0m_ykI/AAAAAAAAAG4/boyTY2S-PFY/s1600-h/spider-dave-2-promo_059.jpg

But the show has no reason to care how Adam is marketed, or any financial stake in his future career- that’s up to his label and his management

Both Adam and Kris, plus every other winner and runner-up, has been signed to 19Recordings, and except in the case of Archie, has initially been signed to 19Management. Their music is just licensed to the Sony labels like Jive, RCA, Arista, etc. If the 19 sounds familiar it should, since 19E is the company that produces American Idol. Simon Fuller started all of these companies, and since he is/was the head of 19Management, he’s listed as the manager for Kris and Adam. So, he would care about how they look to the public.

But really, those who have a problem with Kris winning would find a way to make the results fit their theory, regardless if the vote was close or a blowout. And it’s not like the fact that they don’t know the tally has stopped them from making claims that aren’t based in fact, and passing them off as if they are true.

I didn’t like it when they told the difference b/t David and Archie. I just thought it was wrong. I never like it when they tell the results.

And it’s not like the fact that they don’t know the tally has stopped them from making claims that aren’t based in fact, and passing them off as if they are true.

I don’ think it’s the total number of votes, but where the votes came from. So for some folks, it’s not an issue of Kris winning, but that AI has a flawed voting system, which gets discussed every year. Also, some people have an issue with AT&T monopolizing the text voting market during the season.

Personally, I would like a one vote per person, vote, text, etc. I mean, who wants to be up for four hours voting for an AI contestant? I did it for Cook and Adam. I don’t think I have it in me to do it again this year! I want to vote, feel like I’ve done what I can for my fav, and go to bed. Who wants the “oohh, if I only stayed up and voted two more hours on two phones, he/she would have won!” regret.

That’s my hope for this year and whoever wins, wins. Let the chips fall where they may.

Fuller didn’t say it, the sloppy journalist did.

I stand corrected – the sloppy journalist did indeed say it, no quotes around the sentence.

However, what they put in the press releases was not an exact number, close to a hundred mil. The 97 million from A7 is also close to a hundred million – it has as much the smell of spin as anything else AI puts out to the press. It is to ‘their’ advantage to say if it was more, and by how much..and they didn’t.

I do agree with some who say the power texting votes could hurt the show in the future. More people text nowadays than they did in the early seasons. They would never allow a one text per phone rule though, it would lower their vote totals and that doesn’t look good.

Except, if I recall correctly, they did release the total vote tally, close to 100 mill I believe, and I also believe it was a record number.

Huh, how close is close? That could mean anything. Is 96+ million close? (That was the total for Season 7). Or is 90, or 98, or 88? They’re being vague for a reason. I just wish we knew why.

ETA: Incipit beat me to it.

Simon Fuller is leaving Idol and Entertainment 19.

If this is true, wonder how this will affect Adam since I thought Fuller was managing him.

http://ok.co.uk//celebnews/view/17799/Fuller-joins-Cowell-and-walks-away-from-Idol/

What if is what a very large margin between Kris and Adam as the rumor say? Dial idol showed them neck to neck, so that would mean there was a huge margin in text votes… and I think this is why they didn’t release the numbers. They don’t want to be forced to look into that, or jepordize their relationship with AT&T.

Danny’s song “My Best Days” is number 1 on the bestselling items in country music in Japan on the Amazon Japan site.

The Japanese love American soul voiced singers. Just look at how much they love Elliott Yamin over there.

A word about Dial Idol, granted I know this past season they were often a little off but season 7 they still were very accurate when it came to the finale. I remember lots of speculation that powertexting needed to be taken into account and IIRC the DI numbers compared to the numbers announced were pretty spot on.

Oh and I agree that it was mean that they even announced them. It wasn’t just on the air but Nigel was also on Ryan’s show the next day talking about how he knew the winner before the east coast vote was even finished and how the margin just kept getting wider. Considering they very much seemed to like Archie I thought it was mean and really served no purpose.

Even though they didn’t say exactly how close to 100 mill it was, I’m pretty sure they did say it was a record number of votes.

Text voting is a staple of all these reality shows; I don’t see how they can curb that. Power voting is probably done by any popular Idol’s fans.

I noticed Kris consistently outperformed the Dial Idol results all season, which told me early on that his demographic was a lot younger than some of the other contestants. Not scientific, just my intuition that his fans were younger, more of the texting type. When the finale voting on Dial Idol showed Kris slightly ahead of Adam in the land line voting, I was a little surprised since he was rarely at the top on Dial Idol. Knowing he’d always done better with the text votes, I was extremely confident he’d won. I never thought there was anything nefarious in this, only that his fans probably skewed younger.

Oh, you very well could be right, Babybelle – it would take some kind of idealist that I am not to believe that just because AI and the 19 entities are separate companies under one umbrella they don’t regularly engage in large and small forms of cross pollination, just because it ‘looks’ like conflict of interest. I’m sure they keep it legal.

I never thought there was anything nefarious in this, only that his fans probably skewed younger.

I more thought it had to do with geography? AT&T are dominant in certain areas right and texting with them was free?

I noticed Kris consistently outperformed the Dial Idol results all season, which told me early on that his demographic was a lot younger than some of the other contestants. Not scientific, just my intuition that his fans were younger, more of the texting type

You need to also keep in mind that only folks with AT&T are allowed to text vote. And then you have to look at where is AT&T the most popular. It’s in the south. That is why the text voting is an issue. It needs to be opened up to all carriers, (Verizon, Sprint, Nextel – I know some of these merged and I can’t keep track) for it to be truly fair.

The no vote limit per person rule probably makes it look like idol has more fans overall. I think also management probably figures someone who spends 4 hours calling or texting lots of votes probably is more likely to buy their fave’s album.

I just watched the finale introduction again. I have it saved on my DVR. Ryan says “Just under 100 million votes came in, that is incredible and we thank you for it. Brings our season total to a record setting 624 million votes.”

So no, they did not say it was a record for that night, but was for the whole season total.

So again I ask, why are they not more specific?

I have AT&T and it wasn’t free to text. You could buy bundle packs of certain amount of texts but it was never free. In fact was my highest cellphone bill of the year. I didn’t call; just texted.

I think also management probably figures someone who spends 4 hours calling or texting lots of votes probably is more likely to buy their fave’s album

But it didn’t work out that way. Look at Kris’s album sales. I know that’s not what you are saying, but rather this is how you think TPTB see it.

I know for me, I’m only going to buy an album I like, even if I voted for four hours for a contestant, which I don’ think will ever happen again. As long as my favorite gets to the finale, that is all I am worried about.

I guess it was free for AT&T if you don’t have an unlimited text package on your cell service and pay by the text, but anybody with teenagers & college kids has unlimited texting, trust me on this, lol. I don’t know anyone who doesn’t have unlimited texting.

Albums sales post-finale also indicate to me that my theory of his fan base being generally younger is correct – younger fans tend to buy singles, not albums. The silver lining of this is that as these young fans age, hopefully they’ll follow Kris’ career and become album buyers. Just my theory.

Kris Allen was announced the winner of the competition on May 20, 2009, defeating runner-up Adam Lambert after nearly 100 million votes, the highest recorded vote total in the history of the show. Kris Allen is the only married winner of the competition at the time of his victory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Idol_%28season_8%29

I have AT&T and it wasn’t free to text. You could buy bundle packs of certain amount of texts but it was never free. In fact was my highest cellphone bill of the year. I didn’t call; just texted

True, you have to sign up for the unlimited texting package. I have AT&”T and that is what I have because we use AT&T for work and we do text each other.

But overall, if someone was a passionate AI fan, they could sign up for the unlimited plan for one month (finale month) and then switch back to the cheaper plan the following month.

The bottom line is that those folks who don’t have AT&T can’t text in their votes for their favorite AI contestant.

Just catching the last page of the comments here….not sure if this was posted.
Do you remember the Billy Bush interview with Kris after the finale??
Billy says sources “HIGH” up told him the votes weren’t even close…

http://preview3.accesshollywood.com/the-beatles/kris-allen-talks-idol-win-may-21-2009_video_1108983

Personally, I’m really glad they didn’t announce the totals.

Will, you’re depending on Wiki for the record number of votes for the show comment? That might not be accurate. They did not announce that during the show. The person making that entry is in error if he/she is basing it on the televised broadcast. Show me another credible documented source and I will concede your point.

I’ll repeat what was said: Ryan says “Just under 100 million votes came in, that is incredible and we thank you for it. Brings our season total to a record setting 624 million votes.”

(Emphasis is mine.)

I am not sure about the young fans/single bying theory… I think Kris single is doing well because it has lots of airplay and is doing well on the charts?

I mean it didn’t explode out of the gates in the beginning. And it seems WWFM and LLWD are following similar trajectories when it comes to sale numbers and airplay (thought on different formats)?

I guess what I am trying to say is that they both just seem to follow a new-single-climbing-up-the-chart trajectory.

I remember Billy Bush saying that but I also remember Paula Abdul saying that it was close less than a million votes, maybe on Larry King.

Does anyone know if Kris was also being managed by Simon Fuller? Just wondering if he’s also going to have new management now that Fuller is quitting Idol and CKX (the owner of 19 Entertainment).

I can only give my buying pattern. I 95% of the time just buy singles. I did buy Kris’ itunes album. Didn’t buy a hard copy though.

Show me another credible documented source and I will concede your point.

The New York Times:

The votes cast in each year’s season finale rose even more quickly, by 67 percent over the last four years, to 100 million this year.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/10/arts/television/10idol.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&sq=american%20idol%20season%208%20finale%20vote%20total&st=cse&scp=2

Does anyone know if Kris was also being managed by Simon Fuller? Just wondering if he’s also going to have new management now that Fuller is quitting Idol and CKX (the owner of 19 Entertainment).

I’d wait for another source besides OK! magazine to confirm this story before jumping to any conclusions.

Kris’ manager I thought was whoever Daughtry’s was.

The votes cast in each year’s season finale rose even more quickly, by 67 percent over the last four years, to 100 million this year.

You’re getting close, Will. I guess if we can believe everything in print by a major newspaper to be accurate, you’ve proved your point. I personally believe they just listed an approximate total, unless you believe it was 100 million right on the nose? I was hoping, however, for it to come from 19E, the only ones that have the accurate count. I’m still not convinced.

Both kris and adam are “managed” by simon fuller but basically just in name only. They each have different day to day managers. Kris has the same guy daughtry has and adam and cook have the same guy

I was hoping, however, for it to come from 19E, the only ones that have the accurate count. I’m still not convinced.

How’s this? http://www.americanidol.com/news/view/pid/1739/

Congratulations to Kris Allen, the new American Idol! Kris was crowned the winner of Season 8 after a record-setting number of votes were cast, with nearly 100 million votes cast on Tuesday night, and a total of 624 million votes cast this season alone.

ETA: Apologies to MJ, I know she hates us rehashing last season.

I just saw a pants on the ground commercial for idol!! They even mocked their “it all starts somewhere” theme.

Does anyone know if Kris was also being managed by Simon Fuller? Just wondering if he’s also going to have new management now that Fuller is quitting Idol and CKX (the owner of 19 Entertainment).

I’d wait for another source besides OK! magazine to confirm this story before jumping to any conclusions.

On Kris’ album Simon Fuller is not listed as his manager, but Simon F. is listed as managing Adam [on FYE album credits and other places]. It is unclear if he will continue to be involved with Adam but Simon is actively involved in Adam’s UK/EU launch.

Also, based on the press reports Simon is not “quitting Idol”. Simon’s departure from 19 has been expected and has been reported in other UK press…

Simon Fuller, who launched the Spice Girls and Pop Idol, is to launch a new entertainment company.

It is understood that Fuller will continue his relationship with the Beckhams into the future, as well as other clients such as Murray.

Link: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5h725GINXMp4nFd-YkBPxUjOLKOFQ

Kris’ manager I thought was whoever Daughtry’s was.

Yes, Stirling Mcllwaine is their direct manager and Simon Fuller is a ‘name’ manager.

I just saw a pants on the ground commercial for idol!! They even mocked their “it all starts somewhere” theme.

Me too!

Kris is not managed by Simon Fuller, but he is listed as managing Adam [on FYE album credits and other places]. It is unclear if he will continue to be involved with Adam but Simon is actively involved in Adam’s UK/EU launch.

As with all three 19 signed idols from S8 their management is listed as Management: Simon Fuller, ?????? – 19 Entertainment.

For Kris it is listed as Simon Fuller, Stirling McllWain – 19 Entertainment

I also just saw a new American Idol promo during the Cards/Saints game which highlighted the “Pants on the Ground” audition, and finding the next big thing.

Will, thanks for humoring me today. I’m amazed at your ability of finding these sources. With that last one, maybe you are right and it was the most votes for the finale. Or maybe, it’s just a badly written sentence with the record setting reference placed in the wrong position (instead of after the total votes for the season phrase). As a mathematician, I pay close attention to numerical facts and am well aware of how the written word can muddy up those facts. But I agree, it’s best to leave this subject, no matter how interesting it is.

Another set of figures I’d love to have is the sales totals during Idol Season 8 and Season 7. That, to me, is the Holy Grail of Idol.

On Kris’ album Simon Fuller is not listed as his manager,

Really? He’s listed on the back of the one I own. Hmmm. I don’t own Adam’s so I don’t know if they list two managers like they do on Kris’s, Allison’s and DC’s.

I really hope that a WGWG makes the top 24 this year, but I guess TBTB will need to make sure that they are from California so they are not a threat to their CO this year.

I just saw the Pants on the Ground promo too (watching the same game). That was funny.

Yes, Stirling Mcllwaine is their direct manager and Simon Fuller is a ‘name’ manager.

I understood that Simon Fuller was his ‘big boss’ but the day to day management is from Stirling Mcllwaine. I remember that Kris had a business lunch with Fuller last september in London and that Lyndsey P. interview occurred in Fuller’s office

And Fuller is listed as management with Stirling Mcllwaine on the back of my cd

True, you have to sign up for the unlimited texting package. I have AT&”T and that is what I have because we use AT&T for work and we do text each other.

But overall, if someone was a passionate AI fan, they could sign up for the unlimited plan for one month (finale month) and then switch back to the cheaper plan the following month.

The bottom line is that those folks who don’t have AT&T can’t text in their votes for their favorite AI contestant.

That’s why I’m not voting again. Unless AI lets texts count from all cell phones, and we know that isn’t happening.

More people have unlimited texting plans now than had them a year and a half ago and the number is growing. The cost is minimal.

Most of my friends didn’t have unlimited texting during Cook/Archie’s season. As the cost went down, more people bought the unlimited plan.

I believe that’s why the vote total was so high this past year. I also think the vote totals will continue to go up as unlimited texting plans become more affordable and common place.

The number of votes thing is so deceptive to me. I wish Idol would switch to a the method that Dancing with the Stars has (or something similar) which limits the number of calls from any number, etc. We all know that different groups are more tech-savvy so that they are able to mass-vote for specific people. I think that the same top 5 would be there regardless of how the votes were counted. For example, if Archuleta got 44% (ie: 6% less than half of all the votes) of 90million votes, that is still a heck of a lot of votes. But the percentage difference between Kris and Adam or the Davids would most likely hold true no matter how the voting was handled. Or perhaps Archie or Adam might have won. However, I think that the final two would be the same and in the end, a successful life-long music career is what most of the Idols want or some-type of industry job (broadway, tv, movies, song-writing, producing – not necessarly a big “star” but still making a good living). So, I say forget caring about 100 million votes – we all know how many watch the show each week, the nielson ratings, etc. 100 million votes dosn’t change that – it’s just hype.

Q3: On Kris’ album Simon Fuller is not listed as his manager

Incorrect.

On the back of Kris’ album, it reads as follows: Management: Simon Fuller, Stirling McIlwaine.

Simon Fuller IS one of the managers for both Kris and Adam. He is listed as such on both guys’ albums. However, he doesn’t handle the day-to-day stuff for either of them, so even if he does end up leaving Idol, it probably won’t affect either Kris or Adam all that much, as they would still have their primary manager in place.

I more thought it had to do with geography? AT&T are dominant in certain areas right and texting with them was free?

You had to buy a package from AT&T to get unlimited texting. The only people who were given free texting from AT&T were the people at the block parties in Arkansas

The only people who were given free texting from AT&T were the people at the block parties in Arkansas

Sorry. I just do not buy that. AT&T is just not going to give anything away free and especially over AI. They want to make money not lose. They stand to gain a lot by texting.

I more thought it had to do with geography? AT&T are dominant in certain areas right and texting with them was free?

You had to buy a package from AT&T to get unlimited texting. The only people who were given free texting from AT&T were the people at the block parties in Arkansas

What areas is AT&T dominant in? I’m guessing the south. Most people I know have Verizon.

I didn’t know you could text for free at these block parties. That doesn’t exactly seem right. Did AT&T set up free texting parties in any other states?

I have AT&T and you get unlimited texting depending on the package you pay for. It is a lot more reasonably priced than it used to be.

I don’t know what happened in Arkansas. If AT&T provided display phones for folks to use, then the texts might be free. But I tell you, AT&T I’m sure had their booths set up at these voting parties and probably signed up a lot of customers, so it was a smart business move. By the way, I don’t think there were very many display phones provided for use. Rather, I think AT&T has a large market in that area and lots of folks just have AT&T as their service provider.

Dial idol had Kris winning, and it doesn’t count text voting, so even if all the texting was taken out he still would have won, so it doesn’t matter.

Yeah, I don’t think anything was said about giving away FREE texting.

Why does it matter how many votes there were and where text votes came from? Kris won, it’s over. And now we get to move on Season 9, YAY!

What areas is AT&T dominant in? I’m guessing the south. Most people I know have Verizon.

If I’m not mistaken, AT&T and Verizon are direct competitors all over the country.

Just the facts, maam.

AT&T Coverage map

Dial idol had Kris winning, and it doesn’t count text voting, so even if all the texting was taken out he still would have won, so it doesn’t matter.

We were not discussing who won, but why they wouldn’t release the final vote number.

If I’m not mistaken, AT&T and Verizon are direct competitors all over the country

I have no idea. I was just going on a comment that AT&T is dominant in certain regions of the country. I was just wondering which ones.

Hey Kris fans, I just finished listening to Red Guitar while picking up something at CVS over the speakers. I believe it’s satelite, Muzak or something. Beautiful song btw

I think people are discussing the texting issue because we are about to go into S9 voting. My vote is for one text/call per phone. I know I would enjoy that, just on a personal level. Also, I think they should open up computer voting, one vote per IP address, if that is possible.

As far as AT&T, it’s grown over the past couple of years and coverage is better here in California. I’m in Los Angeles, have AT&’T and like it. I had no problem texting for Adam during the finale.

But if you look at the coverage map, there is more service in the south and midwest than the west.

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/#?type=voice

But if you look at the coverage map, there is more service in the south and midwest than the west.

you are going to find that with any cell phone company. There are huge swatches of the wyoming etc with nobody, so you are shit out of luck for cell service.

My vote is for one text/call per phone.

I could see a limited number of calls, but one per phone isn’t fair. That penalizes large households with one phone line.

God. Please tell me we aren’t re-hashing the S8 voting bullcrap. We aren’t right?

I could see a limited number of calls, but one per phone isn’t fair. That penalizes large households with one phone line.

Good point. Perhaps 10 or 20 votes per phone. That would work. I know for me, I would like to vote only a limited time and then hit the sack. Staying up all night and voting isn’t fun.

I do think it is wrong that only people with AT&T can text in their votes. I think they need to open it up to all carriers and computers.
So, even if you are in Wyoming and can’t get any cell phone coverage, you should be able to use your computer vote a limited number of times.

By the way, Verizon has more coverage in the west than AT&T so it might be more popular in the west because of that.

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/CoverageLocatorController

Gah. Could we please stay in the present tense here?

Maybe that is part of the problem with AI’s audience declining, it is just becoming too predictable who won’t win every year due to geography, lifestlye or being polarizing. I think the current voting system makes it worst. If you hate a contestant you can vote over and over for someone you are not necessarily that into. I guess though it is just an entertaining cheesy show that most people don’t take too seriously, so it doesn’t matter.

God. Please tell me we aren’t re-hashing the S8 voting bullcrap. We aren’t right?

I could tell you but then I’d be lying. Once the new season gets going people should get bored of this subject, though. We will have S9 voting drama to discuss instead…

Bottom line, Kris is the lowest selling Idol in the shows history. He failed.
For Kris’s sake he better hope he start spitting out Platinum singles from this album because the album is going nowhere.

By the way, wasn’t there some rumor that TPTB might be revamping the voting rules this year?

Bottom line, Kris is the lowest selling Idol in the shows history. He failed.
For Kris’s sake he better hope he start spitting out Platinum singles from this album because the album is going nowhere.

Kris hasn’t failed, he is just getting started. I am an Adam fan and feel/felt that Adam should have won but I do think Kris has as good of a shot as anyone for success. As much as I love Adam, I have to admit that he’s not blowing anyone away with his sales. I am not worried however, because I think his sales will increase because FYE is a great album. I love FYE and listen to a few tracks every day.

As much as I love Adam, I have to admit that he’s not blowing anyone away with his sales.

To be fair, I would say he is doing decent though. He is no SuBo that’s for sure but I wouldn’t say he is doing poorly.

I guess both Kris and Adam is trying to slowly connect to a larger fanbase, like all beginning artists have to. They are a bit ahead in the game because of their idol fanbase but they still have to connet like all other artists.

Lorismile ITA. And the question is why? Particularly in view of the fact that the cds are among the better idol debut cds, both are getting radio play and have top 40 songs and are current artists. I frankly think that one of the reasons (but by no means the only or principal reason) is that the voting system breeds animosity. If I voted only once or a few times for my favorite I will be as likely to buy their album as if I voted 1000 times. But if I feel I have to vote for 4 hours straight to have an impact and exhaust myself voting hundreds and hundreds of times and my favorite loses, I am more likely to have hard feelings re the other contestants and have less interest in buying their product. As the years go on I think the impression is that if you are gonna vote you need to vote a LOT to have an impact

To be fair, I would say he is doing decent though. He is no SuBo that’s for sure but I wouldn’t say he is doing poorly.

ITA-I think he is doing fine. He doesn’t have Cook’s numbers, but I think that has more to do with the diminishing AI audience.

What I do care about is that combined their CDs sales don’t even amount to 1% of the total votes cast, or 5% of the amount of viewers who tuned into the finale

Double ITA! That is why they need to limit the number of votes per household. It will give a little more realistic idea of what a contestant’s fanbase is.

Deleting all the Voting rehash. MOVE ON please.

But does a large idol fanbase really matter? I don’t think it is as important as having a good album with solid material. With that and a large record company behind you, you can expand your fan base. Thats what all new artists do.

It’ll be interesting to see what happens to Alison.

I agree with saga and mmb that large idol fanbases aren’t as important as good cds, of which they both have. I do think their sales will grow the more people hear the music and I think that is better for longevitiy than many buying upfront and falling sales after. Makes it harder to have a successful second CD. I also think the not so great sales tend to make people a little more nervous and edgy and defensive.

Overall, I suspect we will be hearing from both of them for a while.

The only thing that is different with a smaller fanbase is that you cannot rely on it to carry you, you have to have good material. Also, it will take a longer time to be succesful and you have to operate on time scales and expecations for new artists instead of established ones.

Barring a miracle comeback by the Cardinals, Kris is going to be singing the National Anthem in New Orleans next Sunday (Saints, up 31 points in 4th quarter today — they are #1 seed, so will host NFC Championship Game next week)

Kris gets to go to New Orleans next week!!

RockStar Weekly Adam Fan Magazine cover revealed and on sale:

http://www.rockstarweekly.com/content/view/1383/149/

There’s a long way to go to see how Kris’ CD sales shake out but at the same time I wouldn’t try and say he’s doing well because he sold more than Jordin’s latest CD. Jordin isn’t the current winner, its not her 1st album and she didn’t release during the busiest shopping season of the year. By the same token Jordin was pretty close to gold this week the year her debut album came out.

RockStar Weekly Adam Fan Magazine cover revealed and on sale:
http://www.rockstarweekly.com/content/view/1383/149/

OMG, I am going to pull my hair out of my head. Call him a hit, call him aspiring superstar, call him a pop star or even a pop senstation. ADAM LAMBERT (IMO) is NOT a ROCK star! RS and LA Times actually started using the word pop recently – a nice and accurate switch. Rock? Even glam rock? FYE is a POP album. It’s as pop as you can get. I am 50 and grew up on 60s & 70s rock, enjoyed pop & rock of the 80s, and then feasted on 90s grunge & post grunge (and post punk). I like Adam. This has nothing to do with being a fan or not, but please, for the love of God, stop calling him a rocker!

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I think there is a point to be made about low album sales. As I see it, 500K sold in albums is equal to 10 gold singles. Thats a lot of singles sold to equate a gold album.

However, 2-3 succesful singles probably increases the albums sales a lot. I noticed that Jason Derulo has his 2nd single out and his album is not due until mars. Kesha has had her single out for half a year and several other tracks have been available at her website (I think). And her album was heavily discounted on itunes. I think they are both new artists.

This year, Kris and Adam haven’t really had time to get there singles going to advertize their album. Kris has had the longest time and if Nobo would have worked he would have been in a much better position.

Danny’s guitar player Def Santiago, who is a lot of fun to watch on stage with Danny.

from @def_santiago on twitter

Played for 8 hrs today. Gettin ready for that country rock tour coming up. WOO HOO!(*grabs electric guitar-cranks amp-and does the windmill)
Oh, and to clarify… It’s Danny’s upcoming tour I was talking about. Country+us rockin it = COUNTRY-ROCK! Lol

Sounds like he is having fun practicing for the expected tour starting sometime in April. Will be interested to finally see a non-acoustic version of Danny’s songs performed live.

I would like to know why my last two comments were deleted. They were not voting rehash, and didn’t violate any other rule that I know of.

From what I remember, the first one stated that both Adam and Kris were sales disappointments, and the second one stated that it’s not too premature to judge Kris’ sales b/c of general Idol sales trends.

I would like to know why my last two comments were deleted. They were not voting rehash, and didn’t violate any other rule that I know of.

Because I deleted the comment you were responding to. No fan warring tonight, please.

If you have a question, send me an email.

Sorry MJ, I posted that 2nd paragraph before seeing your delete warning. Eh, everyone’s gone over that point a billion times before anyway lol!

RockStar Weekly Adam Fan Magazine cover revealed and on sale:

http://www.rockstarweekly.com/content/view/1383/149/

OMG! I am almost tempted to buy this. Isn’t that the Steven Fudd from twitter who said he was going to streak Adam on stage during the AI tour! This looks like a hoot. I will say, the Canadians have a good sense of humor.

Because I deleted the comment you were responding to. No fan warring tonight, please.

If you have a question, send me an email.

I posted here instead of emailing because my last few emails in the past months haven’t gone through/ gotten a response. But as for the deletes, fair enough. Thanks for replying. :]

Yeah I noticed that Rolling Stone has definitely changed their tune about Adam since his sales and singles haven’t done amazingly well. They said he didn’t live up to the hype lol more like their hype with his FYE single.

MJ, just for clarification, my last two comments you deleted were pertaining to the 100 million vote total discussion. I thought that subject was OK. Sorry if I wasn’t clear.

It’s funny about Adam living up to hype. It’s hype everyone but himself has created. They created the hype and blame him for falling short. LOL…. typical media.

They said he didn’t live up to the hype lol more like their hype with his FYE single

ITA-Adam never said his single or album would be the best selling single/album evah! In fact, when he was asked six months ago about touring, he said it all depended on how his album did. I’ve always thought he had realistic expectations about his sales.

Ok, I went ahead and ordered the Rockstar Weekly. I don’t know when I will get it, but when I do, I will scan it in if it is not available on the interent and email it to MJ.

They have pictures of Adam fans dressed as Adam, etc. I think it’s worth the $12 for the chuckle. I’ll just brown bag it to work all week instead of going out to lunch on Friday to make up for the cost.

Radio interview from Chicago with Adam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mhFQQbCf3c&feature=player_embedded

Scott and Matt in AZ at their event tonight

http://twitpic.com/yez71

A Scatt picture from ScottDMacintyre:

http://twitpic.com/yez71

Also a Scooke/Brott(?) picture from earlier today:

http://twitpic.com/ydn2u

Scott, Matt, Brooke and Michael Johns are performing tonight at the ChildHelp charity event in Scottsdale.

http://www.childhelpdrivethedream.org/gala.html

Some tweets from MANN of Montes performance (warm up)

Melissa4Tommy: @loriandjava http://twitpic.com/yergb – Awww, wish I was in Cali now!! Tommy + acoustic = Heaven!!
half a minute ago from TwitPic

ArianaRose3126: http://twitpic.com/yesgf Tommy Joe and Longineu
22 minutes ago from web

casey270: Tommy’s fingers in this pic do not help me get over my hand fetish http://twitpic.com/yerbp
32 minutes ago from web

RockStar Weekly Adam Fan Magazine cover revealed and on sale:
http://www.rockstarweekly.com/content/view/1383/149/

OMG, I am going to pull my hair out of my head. Call him a hit, call him aspiring superstar, call him a pop star or even a pop senstation. ADAM LAMBERT (IMO) is NOT a ROCK star! RS and LA Times actually started using the word pop recently – a nice and accurate switch. Rock? Even glam rock? FYE is a POP album. It’s as pop as you can get. I am 50 and grew up on 60s & 70s rock, enjoyed pop & rock of the 80s, and then feasted on 90s grunge & post grunge (and post punk). I like Adam. This has nothing to do with being a fan or not, but please, for the love of God, stop calling him a rocker!

Yeah, I have to agree with you. I am a fan of Adam but in no way have I ever thought of him as a rocker, not even glam rock. Adam, IMHO, is a pop star and that’s where he’s going to find success.

Video of interviews from Sound and Speed event, where Danny is in a panel with NASCAR stars Tony Stewart, Kyle Busch, and Denny Hamlin

Kyle is the one talking but Danny is on screen pretty much throughout.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4UT2ShNR2A

so according to a tweet by a friend of Adam’s, he’s supposed to be going to some gala event tonight:

http://www.thegreengirls.com/blog/post/2010/01/The-Art-of-Elysim-3rd-Annual-Heaven-Gala.aspx

They are doing some kind of tribute thing to David Bowie. They don’t mention Adam’s name but say “surprise guests”. Does anyone know anything about this?

Fans of Danny in Europe have been working hard to get him played on stations there, with some success this week with a first play in the UK

http://aliveradio.net/danny-gokey/

It’s funny about Adam living up to hype. It’s hype everyone but himself has created. They created the hype and blame him for falling short. LOL…. typical media.

The media created the hype, but I think Adam/RCA/19 had a hand in it and kept it going. The whole FYE and even TFM situations would have been handled a lot better if they had not bought into the idea that Adam is already an established artists.

As far as album sales go, in the past the sales at this point for previous idols were mainly due to the AI fan bases, so I don’t see a reason to be worried about Kris and Adam. I’m not saying that their sales are great or that they will be great, just that it’s too early to tell whether or not they will connect with those outside of the AI bubble.

I am not sure why people think that Adam fans are all in the AI bubble fan base. If you ask his fans half will tell you that they never watch AI before Adam and they have no intention of watching this season or any other season. AI was a cheesy show before and it will continue to be a cheesy show now.

I am not sure why people think that Adam fans are all in the AI bubble fan base. If you ask his fans half will tell you that they never watch AI before Adam and they have no intention of watching this season or any other season. AI was a cheesy show before and it will continue to be a cheesy show now.

The point is that they became fans of Adam because of he was on AI. They weren’t fans of his before he went on the show, so obviously they are his hardcore AI fan base. They did not become fans of his based on the music that in on his album. They were going to buy his album regardless of the type of music that he released, just as Taylor Hick’s AI fans were going to buy his album before even hearing one song. Now, Adam has to appeal to people who didn’t form this emotional connection to him while he was on a reality show. He has to win new people over based on his music, not based on the cult of personality.

Fans of Danny in Europe have been working hard to get him played on stations there, with some success this week with a first play in the UK

http://aliveradio.net/danny-gokey/

That’s great!

The whole FYE and even TFM situations would have been handled a lot better if they had not bought into the idea that Adam is already an established artists.

I didn’t know they bought into the hype. I think with TFM, Adam was hired to sing the song and perform in the mv to accompany the movie. I’m not sure what his label could have done more for it. It’s not like they wanted to pour money into promoting that single.

FYE is a bit more complicated. It seems like they released WWFM pretty quickly after FYE. Maybe the plan was always to do this. Maybe FYE really is meant to hit the club scene and WWFM is for pop and HAC. Perhaps they were/are trying to conquer both charts at once. I can’t be so sure that hype played a factor in their decisions. Is it working? I don’t know, but FYE is climbing, (although in the 160s) but seems to be doing really well in Canada (according to a poster here) and New Zealand it’s #10 on their Itunes singles chart. I know the population of New Zealand is pretty small, but hey, it’s still selling.

http://www.apple.com/euro/itunes/charts/top10songs.html

I am not sure why people think that Adam fans are all in the AI bubble fan base. If you ask his fans half will tell you that they never watch AI before Adam and they have no intention of watching this season or any other season. AI was a cheesy show before and it will continue to be a cheesy show now.

So, Adam’s fans didn’t watch Season 8 of American Idol? The show they have never watched and never will again? Heh.

I am not sure why people think that Adam fans are all in the AI bubble fan base. If you ask his fans half will tell you that they never watch AI before Adam and they have no intention of watching this season or any other season.

If you watched AI last season, you are in the bubble. Maybe you’ll be getting back out someday, but you’re in the bubble. Especially if you’re here which is squarely in the bubble. Outside the bubble at least in my mind refers to fans who did not watch AI and who discover these Idols independently of Idol, by hearing their music or whatever.

(Or people like my mom & sister who forget Idol exists once it ends – maybe they are like…semi-bubble?)

So, Adam’s fans didn’t watch Season 8 of American Idol? The show they have never watched and never will again? Heh.

I think the poster meant some Adam fans. I’m an Adam fan and will watch this season. I actually have watched most seasons, but not every week. I would say Season 7 was the first year I kind of got hooked and voted for the first time. This year it was Adam I voted for. Season 9? I’m waiting until the top 24 to pick a horse…if there is one I like.

If you watched AI last season, you are in the bubble. Maybe you’ll be getting back out someday, but you’re in the bubble. Especially if you’re here which is squarely in the bubble. Outside the bubble at least in my mind refers to fans who did not watch AI and who discover these Idols independently of Idol, by hearing their music or whatever.

I don’t think that’s a fair appropriation of the bubble. The bubble refers, as far as I could tell, to people who more actively follow the career of Idols and the show Idol itself after the season and intently during it (in other words, have a general sense of all of the gossip surrounding the show).

I don’t think that’s a fair appropriation of the bubble. The bubble refers, as far as I could tell, to people who more actively follow the career of Idols and the show Idol itself after the season and intently during it (in other words, have a general sense of all of the gossip surrounding the show).

ITA-There are lots of folks who watch AI casually. I was one of them. I never sought info on any idol contestant on the internet until Season 7. I was a fan of Cook’s and went looking for information on him towards the end of the season. That’s when I found MJ’s. It so happens I also became a fan of Adam’s this season so I stuck around.

I think some fans of Adam’s may have been casual viewers who saw him on AI and went looking for more info. They may have have no interest in following the careers of any future idol contestants and may go back to being just casual viewers.

I remember a couple of seasons ago Nigel said that the first 500,000 in sales by an idol could be attributed to the AI fan base. If that is the case, I think both Kris and Adam are still selling in the “AI bubble”. Neither has outstanding sales to date but Kris has from the start been pounding the pavement while Adam has been treated like he is already a star. This could be a problem for Adam down the road as the media has a way of turning on the very one they hyped (RS). I think both have a long way to go and both need to establish themselves outside the bubble.

I remember a couple of seasons ago Nigel said that the first 500,000 in sales by an idol could be attributed to the AI fan base. If that is the case, I think both Kris and Adam are still selling in the “AI bubble”. Neither has outstanding sales to date but Kris has from the start been pounding the pavement while Adam has been treated like he is already a star.

I think you would have to deflate those numbers Nigel was talking about. Sales for all artists have taken a dive in the past few years. I think at this point, both Kris and Adam are selling outside the AI bubble, because everyone in the AI bubble has already purchased their singles/albums.

Also, I don’t know why there is an impression out there that Adam isn’t working hard. He does the gigs/performances/interviews his management team sets up for him just like Kris does. I think they both are working hard, but their teams may have different approaches.

Mark
01/16/2010 at 11:11 pm

I don’t think that’s a fair appropriation of the bubble. The bubble refers, as far as I could tell, to people who more actively follow the career of Idols and the show Idol itself after the season and intently during it (in other words, have a general sense of all of the gossip surrounding the show).

^^^This is exactly what the AI bubble means.

undercooked
01/16/2010 at 11:17 pm

I think some fans of Adam’s may have been casual viewers who saw him on AI and went looking for more info. They may have have no interest in following the careers of any future idol contestants and may go back to being just casual viewers.

^^^^BINGO!!!!

I was a fan of Cook’s and went looking for information on him towards the end of the season. That’s when I found MJ’s. It so happens I also became a fan of Adam’s this seaons so I stuck around.

Hmm, I must be in some odd half-bubble. I came here looking for information on Cook, but stayed even though I didn’t get into anyone last year more than casually. So I feel like I still stayed in the bubble since here I find out about everyone’s music and I’ve bought way more Idol albums than I would have without being here because I haven’t liked anyone else enough to really dig around and find out what they are up to. Does that make any sense? Because I’m really tired. I guess example would be I watched Season 5 and I liked Elliott & Daughtry but I didn’t really think about them again until I heard their music on the radio.

ETA: Most people I know hated AI and heard of Adam through word of mouth and tuned in

Delurking just to say there are plenty of Adam fans outside the bubble. I’ve never watched AI – caught mad world embedded in a news article around June. I fell in love with his interpretation of the song, recognized the name on the cover of my dad’s Rolling Stone a few days later, read the article, then proceeded to find out absolutely everything I could about him – which is how I found this blog. Didn’t really talk about him much to my friends and family because none of them watch AI either and he had no original music for them to listen to. Then the AMAs happened and his CD came out. Now my friends and I all pregame to his uptempo stuff and my dad loves FYE and Master Plan. My step-mom isn’t a music lover, but she just adores to hear his articulate self in interviews lol. Thought I’d share…and now I’m going to go back to my pity party about being home sick on a Saturday night.

P.S. love some of the snarky intelligent posters on this site – you guys are fun reading!

Another picture from tonight’s AZ ChildHelp event, this time Brooke White and Michael Johns:

http://twitpic.com/yfukk

mquincy, thanks for delurking and sorry you are sick on a Saturday night. Hope you feel better.

ksgirlfordc
01/16/2010 at 11:24 pm

I remember a couple of seasons ago Nigel said that the first 500,000 in sales by an idol could be attributed to the AI fan base. If that is the case, I think both Kris and Adam are still selling in the “AI bubble”. Neither has outstanding sales to date but Kris has from the start been pounding the pavement while Adam has been treated like he is already a star. This could be a problem for Adam down the road as the media has a way of turning on the very one they hyped (RS). I think both have a long way to go and both need to establish themselves outside the bubble.

^^^BS. That 500,000 figure if accurate may have been true when Idol first started. (see Kelly, Carrie, Daughtry) If those figures were still accurate today both Kris and Adam would have done a hell of a lot better.As for the Adam hype(which is getting old now) I don’t see it getting in his way, it hasn’t stop 445,000 people from buying the CD and the more people that see and hear him on the radio more will follow. As for the RS article they are more upset at Adam for toning things down they want him to go more BSC OTT Adam. They will continue to be on board so I wouldn’t get to happy yet.

As for the RS article they are more upset at Adam for toning things down they want him to go more BSC OTT Adam. They will continue to be on board so I wouldn’t get to happy yet.

Why the attitude sweetni4? I was just making a comment on something I heard before. As to the RS article, the media is notorious for turning on their chosen one so if it happens, Adam’s fans shouldn’t be surprised. Nobody said anything about being happy about it. It happens to all the idols at one time or another. As to them continuing to be on board, time will tell.

Someone offered to donate $1000 to the Haitian relief effort if Kris Allen would tweet the word “poop” to Adam Lambert before midnight tonight. I bet Kris has received thousands of requests. And lo and behold:

KrisAllen:

@adamlambert poop!
10 minutes ago from Echofon

Now block quotes or editing not working again.

^^^BS. That 500,000 figure if accurate may have been true when Idol first started. (see Kelly, Carrie, Daughtry) If those figures were still accurate today both Kris and Adam would have done a hell of a lot better.

I don’t think there’s any way to know how many people are or aren’t buying “from the bubble.” It’s just a guess no matter who says it, really not BS though probably seems that way if you disagree with the opinion

ksgirlfordc
01/17/2010 at 12:00 am

As for the RS article they are more upset at Adam for toning things down they want him to go more BSC OTT Adam. They will continue to be on board so I wouldn’t get to happy yet.

Why the attitude sweetni4? I was just making a comment on something I heard before. As to the RS article, the media is notorious for turning on their chosen one so if it happens, Adam’s fans shouldn’t be surprised. Nobody said anything about being happy about it. It happens to all the idols at one time or another. As to them continuing to be on board, time will tell.

^^^No attitude here, but why do you feel they turned on their “chosen one”? because of fye single not selling? 1 article out of 100 is turning on him? They were other articles written about him in RS after that negative one and they were right about his fye single not selling because it is not getting radio play but it is still chuggling along selling over 200,000 without radio play.

his fye single not selling because it is not getting radio play but it is still chuggling along selling over 200,000 without radio play.

Hey, it’s # 10 on the New Zealand singles ITUNES chart! Ok, so that’s probably like 400 downloads, but it’s on the list.

If you don’t understand why Kris tweeted “poop” to Adam, it’s because people tweeted him saying they would donate to UNICEF’s relief aid for Haiti if he did this. One little tweet = $1000+ in aid.

I would like to see Adam’s face when he reads that tweet though — especially if he doesn’t know the story behind it!

I’m not sure how much of the question, though, is “are they selling outside the bubble” (it’s almost certain) but, really, “what percentage of those sales exist outside the bubble?”. It’s quite possible that the latter is still comparatively small for one or other other than for Idols past. But there’s no way of ever proving that; you’d be arguing on more intuitive statistics at best.

Hmm, I must be in some odd half-bubble. I came here looking for information on Cook, but stayed even though I didn’t get into anyone last year more than casually. So I feel like I still stayed in the bubble since here I find out about everyone’s music and I’ve bought way more Idol albums than I would have without being here because I haven’t liked anyone else enough to really dig around and find out what they are up to. Does that make any sense? Because I’m really tired. I guess example would be I watched Season 5 and I liked Elliott & Daughtry but I didn’t really think about them again until I heard their music on the radio.

Hmm… yeah. I’m not sure fanbase action per se is the definition of the bubble as much as an continued involvement with the entire process online and the awareness that comes with that, if that makes any sense. But, yeah, I get what you’re saying.

Someone offered to donate $1000 to the Haitian relief effort if Kris Allen would tweet the word “poop” to Adam Lambert before midnight tonight.

Ummm why would someone want Kris to Tweet that? And be willing to give a thousand bucks to Haitian relief to do so. I mean cool for giving money to it, worthy cause an all, but why the word poop to Adam? Some fans are so weird. Though nice of Kris to do so for it. ETA: I guess Trugs Tweeted him about it as well, so another idol connection.

I’ve even read about it, and I am still missing the decision upon the word poop. I guess I just don’t miss 4th grade.

Ummm why would someone want Kris to Tweet that? And be willing to give a thousand bucks to Haitian relief to do so. I mean cool for giving money to it, worthy cause an all, but why the word poop to Adam? Some fans are so weird. Though nice of Kris to do so for it.

Look, at least they didn’t ask him to solicit Adam over Twitter for a Haiti donation to make the Kradam shippers happy. So I’ll take what I can get.

WOW – New Pictures of Adam from Tonight

http://twitpic.com/yg2yv

http://twitpic.com/yg2zl

http://twitpic.com/yga5u

If you don’t understand why Kris tweeted “poop” to Adam, it’s because people tweeted him saying they would donate to UNICEF’s relief aid for Haiti if he did this. One little tweet = $1000+ in aid.

I would like to see Adam’s face when he reads that tweet though — especially if he doesn’t know the story behind it!

thanks for the info. I was wondering what the hell was that! I hope those people will keep their word and donate.

Look, at least they didn’t ask him to solicit Adam over Twitter for a Haiti donation to make the Kradam shippers happy. So I’ll take what I can get.

Well like everyone, Adam Tweeted a while ago about giving to UNICEF and link for it, and how using the 9099 thing was simple and easy way to donate. Though I am wary of that after reading stuff about it and am personally more inclined to donate money directly to things like the World Food Program and UNICEF.

Anyhew, point being it could have been more Kradamy and embarrassing? Well I think I would prefer that to poop, but hey, bottomline is a bottomline of money going to a good cause, so there ya go. Priorities.

WOW – New Pictures of Adam from Tonight

http://twitpic.com/yg2yv

http://twitpic.com/yg2zl

http://twitpic.com/yga5u

He looks like Liza Minnelli…..

WOW – New Pictures of Adam from Tonight

The first two things that come to mind are… what’s on his hands? And… I wish he could help me with my eye makeup! He’s a good looking kid.

It’s uncanny really. Lol.

http://twitpic.com/yga5u

http://imgsrv.wycd.com/image/wycd2/UserFiles/Image/Celebrity/Liza%20minelli.jpg

I think earlier today they had only raised around $6K (I might be off a little), but they have now raised over $15K. It might be juvenile, but it is raising awareness and getting people to donate, which is pretty cool.

Truthiness: My family did the texting thing for the Red Cross earlier. Are you hearing that there is issues with that?

Anyhew, point being it could have been more Kradamy and embarrassing? Well I think I would prefer that to poop, but hey, bottomline is a bottomline of money going to a good cause, so there ya go. Priorities.

Yeah, that was kind of my point. I’m sure the online universe could have drafted something far less preferable to the rather benign and random “poop”.

To me Adam looks like a sexy androgynous singer – like a rock STAH!

Someone offered to donate $1000 to the Haitian relief effort if Kris Allen would tweet the word “poop” to Adam Lambert before midnight tonight. I bet Kris has received thousands of requests. And lo and behold:

KrisAllen:

@adamlambert poop!
10 minutes ago from Echofon

Uh boy. I hope he verified the person really would donate the 1000, otherwise this “humor” is right up there with the adam farted tweeting.

To me Adam looks like a sexy androgynous singer – like a rock STAH!

ITA. I like Adam’s look because he is comfortable in it and he has the features to pull it off.

By the way, we already went through the Liza jokes early in Season 8.

gangreen29
01/17/2010 at 12:49 am

He looks like Liza Minnelli…..

^^^Yawn……

http://twitpic.com/yg2yv

What an angel!!

By the way, we went through the Liza jokes early in Season 8.

That’s nice. I’ve never heard it before though, must be something to it then if he gets it a lot!

gangreen29
01/17/2010 at 1:03 am

By the way, we went through the Liza jokes early in Season 8.

That’s nice. I’ve never heard it before though, must be something to it then if he gets it a lot!

^^^And I have a bridge to sell ya!!

“That’s nice. I’ve never heard it before though, must be something to it then if he gets it a lot!”

^^ Yes, but it’s debatable if those posts say something about Adam – or the people that post them.

It’s uncanny really. Lol.

http://twitpic.com/yga5u

http://imgsrv.wycd.com/image/wycd2/UserFiles/Image/Celebrity/Liza%20minelli.jpg

Yeah, not feeling it. And I can actually think that his hair can look kind of like it (the private Boca event was oy for me), but those two pictures weren’t doing it for the separated at birth thing for me. So yeah, not feeling the at all, much less uncanny from those pics. Mileage and varying and all that.

Anyhew, the event is black and white, so Adam decided to go the more rare for guys of all white. I hear Katy went all white as well, so I would like to see some pics of them togother. They looked so cute in their all black at the TII red carpet. Plus Adam got more wear from that suit, which considering it’s a D&G, is a good thing. Though it needs a take-in and as it’s silk, it’s always going to be a bitch with wrinkling after sitting down. But it’s for charity, so good thing.

It looks like the people who pledged to donote if Kris tweeted that are following through — if you go on the donation site link, the donations jumped by more than $1000 shortly after Kris tweeted.

Yes, but it’s debatable if those posts say something about Adam – or the people that post them.

That’s nice, but I would actually think it just means like he looks like Liza Minnelli though.

where are these photos of Adam from? What event is he at tonight?

“That’s nice, but I would actually think it just means like he looks like Liza Minnelli though.”

Well I think Kris looks like a chimp, but I don’t like to post it because I feel like that makes me look petty and mean spirited.

Is Adam singing at this? I hope so. I want him to be performing more…get WWFM out there. Or is this just a party to be “seen” at for exposure for celebrity status.

Well I think Kris looks like a chimp, but I don’t like to post it because I feel like that makes me look petty and mean spirited.

That’s nice, but you just did! Also, I think he does too!

Drat – you got me

Maybe I should just go hog wild and say that Allison looks like a troll doll.

That’s nice, but I would actually think it just means like he looks like Liza Minnelli though.

Do you know how many musicians have Adam’s kind of hair? Many of them wear guy liner just like Liza is wearing in the pic you posted.

The jokes early in the season were more to do with Liza impersonators at drag shows – mostly pot shots at Adam’s sexuality. It wasn’t a fun time here.

An opinion that Adam looks like Liza is just that, an opinion. It’s every bit as valid as the opinion that he *doesn’t*. Look at the crap that Cookie gets leveled at him every time there’s a picture of him about his hair. I don’t always like it, but folks have a right to say it.

Kris doesn’t look like a chimp, he looks like a monchichi.

No, wait, that’s Archie.

@girlygirl – This is the event:

http://www.thegreengirls.com/blog/post/2010/01/The-Art-of-Elysim-3rd-Annual-Heaven-Gala.aspx

Do you know how many musicians have Adam’s kind of hair? Many of them wear guy liner just like Liza is wearing in the pic you posted.

Then they also probably look like Liza Minnelli too. Don’t make this about his sexuality.

girlygirl
01/17/2010 at 1:06 am
It looks like the people who pledged to donote if Kris tweeted that are following through — if you go on the donation site link, the donations jumped by more than $1000 shortly after Kris tweeted.

Awesome! Then tweet poop away I say! Those poor people in Haiti

Maybe I should just go hog wild and say that Allison looks like a troll doll.

I agree with this too! I’m glad to see we can have some things in common!

tierbee
01/17/2010 at 1:13 am
Kris doesn’t look like a chimp, he looks like a monchichi.

No, wait, that’s Archie.

LOL! It gets fun here late at night. But I’m starting to feel guilty picking on people’s physical appearances.

Then they also probably look like Liza Minnelli too. Don’t make this about his sexuality.

I’m not. I’m explaining to you some of the discussions early in the season on this board. It seems like you weren’t here for it, so I was filling you in. I know you didn’t make your joke based on Adam’s sexuality, but others did.

Hey Kris fans, I just finished listening to Red Guitar while picking up something at CVS over the speakers. I believe it’s satelite, Muzak or something. Beautiful song btw

And several people heard some VH1 promo with Kris (?) in different supermarkets.
I really need to do some shopping now.
And I’m very happy for Kris. Hopefully more exposure on whatever medium will help gain more fans, thus sell more albums.

Organic

Thanks for the info!

Oh, and I don’t think Adam looks like Liza Minelli, or that Kris looks like a chimp, or that Allison looks like a troll. IMO, all three of them are very good looking, and Kris and Adam are hot.

gangreen29
01/17/2010 at 1:11 am

Well I think Kris looks like a chimp, but I don’t like to post it because I feel like that makes me look petty and mean spirited.

That’s nice, but you just did! Also, I think he does too!

^^^ I can find something to rag on all the male idols, Archie, Cook , Clay, Daughtry but I don’t have all day and don’t want to be banned cause I can be a mean bitch too.

where are these photos of Adam from? What event is he at tonight?

I gather it’s the 3rd Annual Art Of Elysium “Heaven” event. I gather it’s a charity benefit for it. http://www.theartofelysium.org/

An opinion that Adam looks like Liza is just that, an opinion. It’s every bit as valid as the opinion that he *doesn’t*.

Agreed, and I think it’s fine to post it, and I think it’s fine to disagree with it. Both are valid and fine. I happen to disagree that those pictures are “uncanny,” or whatever. And I happen to be someone who actually DID think his hair was looking a bit whatever at Boca. But as I said, just not seeing it here. Eh. YMMV and all that.

girlygirl
01/17/2010 at 1:18 am
Organic

Thanks for the info!

Oh, and I don’t think Adam looks like Liza Minelli, or that Kris looks like a chimp, or that Allison looks like a troll. IMO, all three of them are very good looking, and Kris and Adam are hot.

You left out Archie not looking like a monchichi. The silence is deafening…..

In my humble opinion, Adam looks great. Love that he decided to wear all white at an event called “Heaven.”

And aside from what he looks like, that he’s giving his time to support a charity focusing on children and the arts is great to see.

I can find something to rag on all the male idols, Archie, Cook , Clay, Daughtry but I don’t have all day and don’t want to be banned cause I can be a mean bitch too.

Someone posted a picture of Adam looking for responses, and I gave one. People say crap all the time about Katherine’s hair or Kelly’s weight, because people are allowed to have opinions, so feel free to comment on any of those guys if someone posts a picture of them looking for comments.

^^^ I can find something to rag on all the male idols, Archie, Cook , Clay, Daughtry but I don’t have all day and don’t want to be banned cause I can be a mean bitch too.

Dude, people are *JOKING*. So Adam has Liza hair in someone’s opinion, who cares? I think he has Liza-esque hair, but I also think he’s good looking. I think Cookie can often be follicly challenged but I think he’s hot. Kris might look a little chimpy but he’s very cute. Troll dolls are adorable. It’s not like anyone said they look like a werewolf/gremlin/ghoul/gargoyle. Certainly nobody said anything as harsh as calling anyone a mean bitch, lol.

You left out Archie not looking like a monchichi. The silence is deafening…

Oh, and lest I leave out Archie, I happen to think he’s absolutely adorable . And monchichis are adorable. I had one. I loved that thing.

OhMyRawrrr

Haha — I don’t know what a monchichi is!

Archie is cute, I guess — but he’s so young — way too young for me to think much about what he looks like

Bring back the snark, it’s 1:30 am. I want snark. I like the witty, snarky posters. I have to proofread for at least 2 more hours and I need SNARK!

I don’t have any snark, I’m too tired. So I’ll just bring over a Cookie tweet, because he’s the cutest lil’ mama’s boy.

thedavidcook

Full day hangin with Mom while @ACookOfficial footballed it up. Awesome day from start to finish.

Kris doesn’t look like a chimp, he looks like a monchichi.

No, wait, that’s Archie.

Monchichi Monchichi. Oh so soft and cuddly.
La La La
La La La.

Happy happy Monchichi.

I love you Monchichi!

With neat thumb in mouth and foot moving action!

If I have to have that song going through my head, others must suffer as well. And Archie is kind of cute and cuddly and Happy! so it does kind fits.

Anyhew, it’s cool to think that the Idols do or don’t look good to you. Opinions, everyone’s got one.

Can we ban “anyhew” from the comments. Also, “enough said”, or “nuff said”. It’s like finger nails on a chalk board. My dad made these comments some decades ago. Just an idea.

Archie is cute, I guess — but he’s so young — way too young for me to think much about what he looks like

Don’t worry, you can’t possibly be ogling him and call him a monchichi. They are like as innocent as you can get.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c186/jennabel/monchichi.jpg

If I have to have that song going through my head, others must suffer as well.

Oh NO! You gave me a Monchichi song earworm!

It’s not like anyone said they look like a werewolf/gremlin/ghoul/gargoyle.

HEY NOW – werewolves are hot! Although I prefer vampires.
But yes, all of the idols, relatively speaking and to varying degrees, are good looking people. Except for Scott Savol. I have to draw the line with him!
And Sanjaya.
And……

Can we ban “anyhew” from the comments. Also, “enough said”, or “nuff said”.

Can I call someone the shiznit?

Can I call someone the shiznit?

That’s my new favorite word!!!!!

HEY NOW – werewolves are hot!

I was thinking more the before people decided they might be hot werewolf look. Like this guy:

http://werewolves.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/american-werewolf-in-london-lifesize-2.jpg

Hee.

Monchichi, monchichi… ooh so soft and cuddly…

I’m not sure what shiznit means. Could that possibly describe my three kids. Sounds good!!! lol…

I like the word. But probably not appropriate for describing my kids.

Inform me!!!

Urban dictionary says:

shortened term for “that is the shit, isn’t it ?”
“that taco’s the shiznit!”

So, if you liked Adam’s outfit – that white suit was the SHIZNIT!

Or if you like the Monchichi song… that can be the shiznit too.

So I’m sure your kids at least sometimes are the shiznit

Oh, man, it’s hard to proofread with the Monchichi song in your head and “that taco’s the shiznit.”

Maybe I need to go to the spoiler thread and watch some YouTubes or something.

gangreen29
01/17/2010 at 1:23 am

Someone posted a picture of Adam looking for responses, and I gave one. People say crap all the time about Katherine’s hair or Kelly’s weight, because people are allowed to have opinions, so feel free to comment on any of those guys if someone posts a picture of them looking for comments.

^^^Nope I don’t rag on women being that I am a woman myself don’t like the meowness(if that’s a word) but the men can be fair game.

Oh NO! You gave me a Monchichi song earworm!

Exxxcellent. All is going as I have foreseen.

Can we ban “anyhew” from the comments. Also, “enough said”, or “nuff said”. It’s like finger nails on a chalk board. My dad made these comments some decades ago. Just an idea.

Anyhew, no can do. Nuff said about that tho’.

Meanwhile back at the ranch, La La La. La La La. Happy happy Monchichi. I love you Monchici!

I told you, I’m not suffering alone. I’m taking others down with me!

Organic
01/17/2010 at 12:41 am

WOW – New Pictures of Adam from Tonight

He is so gorgeous.

Urban dictionary says:

shortened term for “that is the shit, isn’t it ?”
“that taco’s the shiznit!”

Huh. Learn something new every day….

Anyhew, no can do. Nuff said about that tho’.

Enjoy yourself!

Re: shiznit
Back in April, @CHRIS_Daughtry tweeted,

Just finished my workout and watching Idol…I think Kris Allen is the SHIZNIT-O-BAM!!!

…and for those of u who aren’t hip to that word…It’s a GOOD thing:)

So I’m sure your kids at least sometimes are the shiznit

Thanks. You are so sweet for explaining it to me!

Adam looks heavenly

http://api.ning.com/files/7OFHHtJpceKYSrMaUSjcx8RJ1NxtFTsS6wM79nptHz6fkPjv2fIYRutxA99gGbdBcktevPmim00o3Bhn5AAclwja7VpQ0uHY/29234187.jpg

I was thinking more the before people decided they might be hot werewolf look. Like this guy:

http://werewolves.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/american-werewolf-in-london-lifesize-2.jpg

AAAAAAAHHHHHH! Are you trying to give me a heart attack at 2 in the morning!!!

Hmm. Good one, Daughtry. I see your SHIZNIT-O-BAM and raise you…

shiznitobiggitybizomb

n. The mega-superlative form of awesome, combining the powers of the words shiznit and biggity bizomb.

A person, place, or thing so amazingly great that it requires a 21-letter word to adequately express.

LOL! OK, yeah, I need sleep.

werewolf-in-london-lifesize-2.jpg

AAAAAAAHHHHHH! Are you trying to give me a heart attack at 2 in the morning!!!

Sorry! Sing the Monchichi song! It makes werewolves turn to Poodles

I am all about the funny. You guys should check out Shore Wood High School.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7TI-AJi2O8

I love creative people.

Sorry! Sing the Monchichi song! It makes werewolves turn to Poodles

thanks, I think I might just do that, or better yet go stare at the white Adam some more, although I must admit my eyeballs are drying up, he is just glowing! Do you think the Idols would be upset that their most hardcore fans are comparing them to trolls/monkeys/liza minelli etc.?
I swear I was laughing so hard, I almost dropped the laptop on the floor!
And we forgot Danny, who does he look like?

And we forgot Danny, who does he look like?

Linda Ellerbee

compare

http://jrbasa.blog.friendster.com/files/danny-gokey.jpg

http://images.tvrage.com/people/41/122260.jpg

And we forgot Danny, who does he look like?

Linda Ellerbee

LOL, I don’t know about this one, have to keep looking!

angela
01/17/2010 at 2:13 am

And we forgot Danny, who does he look like?

Sally Jesse Raphael? LOL

Oh noooo… now Hall & Oates is in my head with the Monchichi song and shiznit tacos! LOL!

Danny? Robert Downey Jr.? I dunno, I feel bad poking fun at Danny because he got so trampled all season long, lol. I wouldn’t want to call him some kind of critter

tierbee
01/17/2010 at 2:35 am

Oh noooo… now Hall & Oates is in my head with the Monchichi song and shiznit tacos! LOL!

Danny? Robert Downey Jr.? I dunno, I feel bad poking fun at Danny because he got so trampled all season long, lol.

^^^I like Danny too, but fair is fair we can’t leave him out of the party.

OK, I need sleep. Before my kids get up and wake me right back up, lol. And now I’ll be thinking about what these Idols look like in my dreams. And then I’ll come back here in the morning and blurt it out and nooooobody will know what I’m talking about

Danny? Robert Downey Jr.? I dunno, I feel bad poking fun at Danny because he got so trampled all season long, lol. I wouldn’t want to call him some kind of critter

you’re right, even though I was not a part of this blog until a couple of months ago (was web surfing for Adam’s info and stumbled upon MJ, addicted now), but just with the Idolotry alone it’s enough cruel jokes for a lifetime, poor Danny! I am not a big fan of his, but noone deserves what he got, but enough about season 8!

We’ve had equal opportunity fun-poking… well, a little S8 heavy. A couple season 7-ers, some season 8-ers… and a SHIZNIT-O-BAM from Daughtry. Boo-yeah!

Maybe I should just go hog wild and say that Allison looks like a troll doll.

I’ve never heard that, but you’re right. And Kris is a chimp. Danny is Linda Ellerbee. How about Daughtry or Cook?

Carrie reminds me of a stepford wife or a pod person.

Ooh ooh- can I also join in?

Some of Adam’s hairstyles do resemble Liza Minneli’s or even Stockard Channing’s (someone also mentioned that a whole while ago)- but he’s way more purrty than them!!

Yes for Kris resembling a chimp (although a little prettier as well).

Yes for Alli resembling a troll- I ALWAYS thought so! But I looove trolls! She’s awesome!

No for Danny resembling that Linda woman- huh??? Not even close… but I can’t really think of anyone else except RD Junior, but that’s not funny so it doesn’t count

Adam looks more like Joanne Worley to me than Liza. Does anyone remember her from Laugh In. Especially when he has the big hair.
Here’s are pictures of her:
http://www.super-gallery.com/kw/joanne_mk_worley/

jpfan
01/17/2010 at 4:51 am

Adam looks more like Joanne Worley to me than Liza. Does anyone remember her from Laugh In. Especially when he has the big hair.

^^^Nah, I think Liza got this one, but Adam is still prettier than both of them, besides I rather he has Liza’s career. Grammy,Tony, Emmy and Oscar.

Well, after seeing this picture, I think Adam looks a lot like Kimberly Caldwell….only much prettier.

I missed the headlines thread yesterday. I expected people to be talking about Simon Fuller’s biting comments and the non-rivalry with Cowell. Or maybe the demented Clark Kent act at the auditions with Kara. Or, hey! Taylor Hicks and Rueben Studdard got good press and Idolatry is back with a bang and a fabulous interview with Fantasia.

But the big news I missed is dissing various idols and comparing them to unflattering animals? Link please.

Adam looks more like Joanne Worley to me than Liza. Does anyone remember her from Laugh In. Especially when he has the big hair.
Here’s are pictures of her:
http://www.super-gallery.com/kw/joanne_mk_worley/

Adam does so look like Joanne Worley…I was thinking that some time ago when I seen a picture of Adam with his mouth wide open.

He also looks kinda like Fat Elvis.

http://www.astro.com/imwiki/adb/with/thumb036507.jpg

I thought Adam looked like Joanne Worley especially with when he wore the boa during the tour;

But the big news I missed is dissing various idols and comparing them to unflattering animals? Link please.

You totally missed the spirit of the discussion. Everyone was compared to *cute* things, lol.

tinydance
01/17/2010 at 10:02 am

http://www.astro.com/imwiki/adb/with/thumb036507.jpg

I thought Adam looked like Joanne Worley especially with when he wore the boa during the tour;

*shrugs* You already missed the fun last night, oh well

sweetni4
01/17/2010 at 10:36 am

http://www.astro.com/imwiki/adb/with/thumb036507.jpg

I thought Adam looked like Joanne Worley especially with when he wore the boa during the tour;

*shrugs* You already missed the fun last night, oh well

It’s never too late…

tinydance
01/17/2010 at 10:40 am

sweetni4
01/17/2010 at 10:36 am

http://www.astro.com/imwiki/adb/with/thumb036507.jpg

I thought Adam looked like Joanne Worley especially with when he wore the boa during the tour;

*shrugs* You already missed the fun last night, oh well

It’s never too late…

^^^ I know, but once the place starts to stink up it’s time to move on

Actually it just needs a little stank to make it more fun…

Did you see this photo?

Since it all about fun.

http://www.rickey.org/?p=31167

He does kinda have whorely look about him.

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