David Archuleta on Good Day Utah – VIDEO

I thought his version of “Crazy” was amazing. I think the craziness was made to feel more real with the sadness that he put into it. Very emo. Besides that, his voice sounded amazing and the runs he put into it just improved the song.

I loved this. I thought it sounded more haunting than ballady.

Exactly how I felt Cranked. I thought something like this could be found on an Evanescence album. It had the same sadness and vibe as “Hello”.

When it comes to alternate takes on Crazy, I prefer Jason’s acoustic guitar version…preserves that urgency you were talking about, MJ.

But Archie sounds amazing. I heard he was on vocal rest the other day, like a lot of them have been, and I think it’s good that they are being encouraged to take care of their voices. I always wonder if DA running on one vocal cord makes his voice more susceptible to wear somehow.

OT/related – I was watching America’s Got Talent last night and there soo many cheesy sob stories being used that I was grateful that our two Davids this year had more class and did not allow AI to use their own personal stories for the show.

This was the problem I had with Archie on the show: He’s not old enough or experienced enough to imbue real feeling into a song about complex emotions. In a few years, maybe. But not right now. YMMV, of course.

No offense MJ, but no one can decide if someone is old enough to feel anything. No one really knows how Archuleta really thinks and feels. In fact, so many people have said that they thought Archuleta was much more mature than many 17 year olds.

Best Crazy Ever! Hauntingly beautiful. I got chills.

No offense MJ, but no one can decide if someone is old enough to feel anything. No one really knows how Archuleta really thinks and feels. In fact, so many people have said that they thought Archuleta was much more mature than many 17 year olds.

I’m not getting a mature reading of that song from him. I’m just not feeling it. He’s a young kid who has admitted to a sheltered life. A few years out in the world will change the way he approaches music, I have no doubt about that.

I agree, his voice sounded amazing. I hope he has the kind of success that John Mayer has. If that’s the kind of music he’s putting on his album, I’d buy it. I liked his version of Crazy but I kept waiting for it to pick up, to hear some frustration in his voice and it never did, so I didn’t love it.

i prefer jasons version to this, he puts more emotion into it. i dont know when i heard archies version i didnt find anything special about it the way i did when i heard jason singing it but whatever each to their own.

He has a beautiful voice – no doubt about it. I like the funk that the original has and that Jason conveys in his own way. I think making it a ballad changes the funk but that is his interpretation.

This was the problem I had with Archie on the show: Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not old enough or experienced enough to imbue real feeling into a song about complex emotions.

I have always felt exactly the same way with the youngsters. David is the first one that I have been able to get into. His voice is just so rich and I feel that he feels his music.. not experience wise.. but as in the whole musicality of it. I know that he is serious about it and not just performing because he wants to be a “stah”.

As a matter of fact, he sang the words “Bless Your Soul” so convincingly to me that I wondered about going to an alter and confessing my sins. ROTFL

Vocally, I thought Crazy was beautiful and I can see why everyone reacted to it as they did during Hollywood week. I also love Jason’s version. But I still love the original version the best.

Of the two performances today I liked Waiting on the World to Change better than Crazy. I loved it! And if we are talking about age-appropriateness, I’d say that this song fits the bill.

I think that his maturity is more the way he carries himself… his poise, his manners. I do think if he’s been sheltered *emotional* maturity that can translate that kind of gut-wrenching angst into a song will come later as he experiences more in life. That said, his voice is pure and just beautiful, and it will be interesting to see who he becomes as he grows into a man. Because coming from my 34 year old perspective, he is *definitely* a kid !

How more biased can you be? David Archuleta did an absolutely amazing job with this song. He was the only contestant that I could feel a connection with. He’s able to interpret songs incredibly. If you don’t understand him now, you never will. Not in a “few years,” not ever! Your LOSS!

“Just because you don’t understand it doesn’t mean it isn’t so.”

I thought it was haunting and incredible and ever since I heard it earlier, I can’t get it out of my mind. I felt a sense of melancholy in that song. If David maturing will make him emote any better, then I think that he will be even scarier say in five years. Slowing the song down makes it more foreboding and darker imho. I am not going to compare idols versions cause it’s really a matter of personal taste.

IGetCranked, I hear you! That is exactly what I have been feeling, but haven’t been able to articulate it.

Archie’s got pipes. There’s no denying that. But, I’m still jaded when it comes to the inability to pump a song full of the emotion it needs because there’s no experience to do so. In my recaps all season long, I had this same problem with him.

Vocally, “Crazy” was pretty darn superb. But, it’ll be more than good singing that will take him as far as he wants to go. I’m anxious to see what kinds of songs he puts on his album.

He’s a self-admitted “message-song” singer, and I think there’s some great potential for him out there to reach the masses with the inspiration vibe. Hopefully, his first album won’t be some typical teenaged-bubble-gum-pop drivel. His voice is so much richer than that. It would be a waste.

So yeah. I didn’t get the aimed-for vibe from the much-discussed “Crazy”. I like “Waiting on the World to Change” much better. Songs along those lines, I feel, are a much better fit for him.

As a matter of fact, he sang the words à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Bless Your Soulà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  so convincingly to me that I wondered about going to an alter and confessing my sins. ROTFL

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I kind of agree with MJ on this one. I appreciate the purity of the voice but the songs feels academic to me and not “felt.” This must have killed at the audition though because it really reveals the voice and his artistry. The best songs are ones that connect the artist to the song in some personal way to me. So I’d say this is good version of Crazy but not incredible.

ETA – I do feel the emotional connection in some of his other stuff so it’s not a matter of his age for me.

My Fox Utah

Video is up for Crazy, together with the discussion of stage father rumor.

When asked who is he closest with, he said everyone. Then admits that it’s Jason, cute.

If you donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t understand him now, you never will. Not in a à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“few years,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  not ever! Your LOSS!

It’s entirely a matter of opinion and personal taste. Not everyone is going to love everything Archie does, and there’s nothing wrong with that.
I agree with MJ and Gwen, BTW, and that’s the problem I had with him all season. Amazing voice, but I simply don’t feel the songs he sings. I don’t feel the connection. I can appreciate what others see in him, I just don’t see it myself.

I haven’t heard it yet, (no sound at work), so I can’t comment on what I think of his version, but I was surprised by the fact that he would perform “Crazy” since it’s one of only three songs Jason is performing on the tour. I’m sorry, this just confuses me. There are A LOT of songs available in the world of music, and he picked this one?

I’m sure he sings it beautifully, buuutt … whatever.

If you donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t understand him now, you never will. Not in a à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“few years,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  not ever!

Singing is a growth process. I guarantee you that David Archuleta will sound nothing like his 17-year-old self in five years.

So…I’m willing to bet that some fans who like him now won’t like him in five years. He’ll gain some, and he’ll lose some.

Life and experience will only enhance his music career because the voice is already there.

Why is his Dad in the interview?

Well said Jolene. I feel the same way. He has a beautiful voice but I feel no connection. When LeAnn Rimes put out her first cd, I remember thinking how beautiful her voice was but she had no life experience to draw on to make it real to me.

How more biased can you be? David Archuleta did an absolutely amazing job with this song.

eeeek! It’s an opinion and a very fair one. Everyone has different tastes and buttons that are pushed and Archie doesn’t push hers. Doesn’t make it biased. I appreciate that she even posted the clip period.

Even though I like a bit more grit with my music, I really want to like this kid because he seems sweet. So every new post, I read the comments regarding how great Archie is then I listen to the song. However, as always I hear the same “think tongue” sound I hear on everyone of his songs and it drives me bonkers. So until I have the “revelation”, I’ll stick to Ray Lamontagne’s cover and the original Gnarls Barkley and I am sure Archie will be just fine with the thousands of fans he already has

MJ…I realize that it’s your blog, and I respect you and your work here. I’ve watched you for a couple of seasons, and since I am a fan of David’s, I have had a keen interest in what you have said about David Archuleta this entire season. Accordingly, I think you know where I stand vis-a-vis your coverage of the 2 Davids. To each his own.

While I hate to agree with the person who kind of reduced the entire matter into a soundbyte in saying (and to paraphrase a great classic), “If You Don’t Know Me By Now….You Will Never, Never, Never Know Me…,” she does have a point don’t you think? After having observed you all season, I have come to the conclusion that you have a near-permanent mental block relative to David’s entire musical existence/career. And I think that it’s generational and/or stylistic in nature. And you know what? That’s just fine by me. David’s fans will just love him that much more to make up for those folks who don’t understand him.

But while I’m all for the “live and let live” philosophy, please do know this: vocally-speaking, there is not one single male idol this season who measures up to David A. (or for that matter, from any season, and I’m more than willing to make that sweeping statement since I am one who believes that there are, indeed, absolutes and that objective standards do matter and do exist. So, if you polled 100 vocal professors, I do feel confident that David would score above 65 percent on that question re: VOCALS…NOT performance…so please don’t get it twisted, Cookies! :=) )

The kids voice is great and so amazingly durable given his history. In fact, I think his voice held up better than anyone I’ve ever heard ‘go the distance’ on Idol. And his technique is so much improved from the horribly forced raspy vibrato that he used to employ on Star Search. So mellifluous and apparently effortless now and with his doing four songs on tour and recording.

I like Archie but I can understand others nothing being into him. Plus I see the flaws people criticize him for. What’s nice is that he is getting respect which I feel he deserves. He takes that incredible voice of his seriously and he’s way past Jonas Bros./Miley league in terms of artistry.

If we’re rating for pure vocals I’d put Archie up there with Elliott, Melinda, Carrie, Kelly and Clay as the best singers the show has every had. (and I’m not a fan of all of those people, just giving them their vocal due.)

MJà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦I realize that ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s your blog, and I respect you and your work here. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve watched you for a couple of seasons, and since I am a fan of Davidà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s, I have had a keen interest in what you have said about David Archuleta this entire season. Accordingly, I think you know where I stand vis-a-vis your coverage of the 2 Davids. To each his own.

Very true. But just appreciate that MJ will post any DA related news and videos, a lot of time very swiftly and convenient for fans.

neo–what does “thick toungue” mean…to you? i’m lost!

Wee, I do understand what you mean, but please understand that to some of us, this reaction sounds knee-jerk and cut-and-paste (ie…not original)

I am one who believes that there are, indeed, absolutes and that objective standards do matter and do exist. So, if you polled 100 vocal professors, I do feel confident that David would score above 65 percent on that question re: VOCALS…NOT performance…

Fair enough. But, I think there’s much, much more to singing than vocal technique. Which is why I tend to favor singers with distinct interpretive skills rather than pretty sounding vocals.

Very true. But just appreciate that MJ will post any DA related news and videos, a lot of time very swiftly and convenient for fans.

Thank you. I try to be even-handed in my coverage.

I was pleasantly surprised how well I liked both songs. BUT then I’ve never heard the orginal of either. For many of the reasons others posted he was not a fav. of mine on the show. His akwardness has always ‘bugged’ me too, but his sweetness has kinda grown on me. Can’t wait to hear him in concert since I’ve heard such good things. ‘Stand By Me” was one of my favs, of his, from the show and the concert vids are good as well.

Also, I’ve only heard Jason’s version of “Crazy” on the utube vids once. He was my 2nd fav. on the show and thought it was great as most of what I’ve heard from him. I think I may revisit Jason’s again now that I’ve heard Archie’s.

OT: Can someone please enlighten me to what YMMV means? Thanks in advance.:)

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OT: Can someone please enlighten me to what YMMV means? Thanks in advance.:)

It means your mileage may vary, or some folks may perceive the situation differently.

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Jinx.

vocally-speaking, there is not one single male idol this season who measures up to David A.

Even if that was true (and personally, I disagree. I think his falsetto gave him some trouble on the show, and according to IdolRanges.com, he doesn’t come close to having the biggest range this season), Pure vocals is not the end-all and be-all, far from it.
You’ll find boys and girls with amazing, astounding pure vocals on church choirs all over the country, for instance.
Also – this point is also completely subjective and can’t be stated as a fact, IMO. What defines “the best vocal”? Does knowing how to fit one’s vocals to the song one sings a part of that, or not? Does conveying the emotion and feel of the song with one’s vocals play any part at all?
I’m not saying Archie doesn’t have a lovely voice, he does, but best vocals of any Idol ever? Disagree.

I understand what you mean, MJ…and I do thank you for your hard work here and for your honest attempt at balance. I guess for me, I do not “crush” on my vocal heroes, I do not want to
“relate” to them on an emotional or physical level, and I do not revere their “look,” “vibe” or otherwise. Not to say that you do, but I know many Archies and Cookies (the majority, imo) who do. I am a student of music–mainly piano, voice and euphonium–and have been for nearly 30 years. So, for me, it’s the magic of a prodigy, the genius of a particular vocal tone or timbre, the artistry of interpretation, etc. I guess I could fall “in love” (musically-speaking) with an artist without ever having seen his/her face or knowing his/her age…. That’s just me. And for those who say that’s it’s all about his “inability” to “feel” or to “understand” the songs…..have you heard his studio or live versions of “Smokey Mountain Memories” or “Don’t Let the Sun Go Down” or “When You Believe” or “Angels?” How ’bout his parts in “Shout To The Lord” He connects in spades. And for the record, this “Crazy” song is the one that was banned from release in auditions week–Hollywood. That’s why we are all so excited. It’s been a long time coming…and it was worth the wait.

I just had to peek back in here to say that actually David himself agrees with MJ and others to a certain extent because he has reiterated in several interiews that he needs to make 17 year old music right now. He’s smart as well as talented. I don’t think there is a need to get worried for him.

I think thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s much, much more to singing than vocal technique.

Yep. Yep. And, yep again.

I’ve seen vocally imperfect performances that left people in tears because of sheer performance value.

Take for instance….Joe Cocker’s “You Are So Beautiful” (among other songs). That was an awesome performance, and the vocal flaws helped to make that song what it is.

No one is saying that David Archuleta can’t sing. As a matter of fact, as a singer, I would totally agree with you Baobabs727 that he vocally stood apart from most of the others. But, even singers who have been singing for 30 years will tell you that there’s always room for improvement. Part of that is learning to perform.

Often, I don’t really care about any one artist’s personal connection and/or experience. Heck, sometimes I don’t even know who is singing a particular song I like. What I DO know and feel is when a song “hits” me, the music, lyrics, or whatever. When that happens, it doesn’t even matter who is singing it, I just immediately get the “I love this song” feeling. It’s viceral.

baobabs727, how do I explain it? It sounds like his tongue gets in the way – like his notes get squashed. Sometimes he slurs his notes. Seriously this is just my opinion and judging by most of the sites and reviews, I am in the minority. I always find it very fascinating how people can listen to the same music and some enjoy it and other do not. I like a clear but gritty voice (see Amer Diab, Amos Lee, Ryan Adams, Jakob Dylan, Sonya Kitchell). I hate smooth voices but I can appreciate a good voice. I think Clay Aiken has a beautiful, soaring voice even though I don’t particulary like his type of music. So I continue to listen but don’t hear it in Archie. But again, I am typically a minority opinion. I often think I was born in the wrong generation – bring on the 60′s – musically speaking that is.

Thanks again, MJ for letting me know what YMMV means!

I am so in love with his version of Crazy. He sounds so amazing singing this song. I love the runs he does. He needs to put out a soul album right now. I’ve always felt a emotional connection when David sings. I don’t think that David just has a pretty voice.

My reaction is the opposite – I found his “Crazy” really impressive, but didn’t like much his “Waiting For The World To Change”. I do, however, agree with you a little on the feeling and complex emotion – I think the song could be improved greatly with just a little bit more subtle nuances (which he managed here and there but lost it somewhat towards the end) instead of the runs he tends to do.

Singing is a growth process. I guarantee you that David Archuleta will sound nothing like his 17-year-old self in five years.

he has reiterated in several interiews that he needs to make 17 year old music right now. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s smart as well as talented.

Exactly. Even in the interview today he answered the question of where he would be in 10 years by saying he hoped he’d be better defined as a musician, or a “more defined version” of himself. He’s not even pretending to know for sure exactly where he will take his music (or where it will take him), and I really admire that. He is the first to admit that he’s got a lot to learn and appreciates the opportunities he’s been given to do so. He seems to be working hard to take full advantage of these opportunities. I just think a lot of kids his age, in his position, would be trying to prove that they are something that they aren’t yet. It takes a great deal more confidence to be able to say “I’m only 17; I don’t know it all, but I’m ready to learn.”

On a side note, hated the pianist in that video. Plunkity plunk, plunkity plunk, plunk, plunk, plunkity plunk, plunk…like a kid’s music lesson studio recital pianist…dunno…but it sure didn’t help the vocalist (DA).

Jpfan, I agree with your opinion that Archie has one of the best voices of all the idol alum, I would include Cookie in that as well, and it’s funny because I don’t get him musically but I know he can sing.

Range doesn’t have much to do with how one feels about a singer. Frank Sinatra didn’t have much range, and he was one of the most reknown singers of his era.

I am sure David with maturity will be even more incredible than he is now, but that being said, I am in my 40′s and feel the musicality coming out of his pores. He believes and feels what he sings. Maybe it’s not the emotion that you think the songwriter intended, but then that is the beauty of music. Singers bring different cards to the table even while singing the same song.

*Crazy* happens to be one of my favorite songs and even though David A sang all the chords pitch perfectly, there is no *specialty* about his interpretation. I was so blown away with David C’s interpretation of *billy jean* for intance not because of the vocals but the haunting variation….that is what attracts me to a singer. David A has a wonderful talent but I am still looking for *his* stamp!!!
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Dude people..why are u dissecting so much of this..”oh he’s not that great, can’t feel it all cuz he lacks experience.” All I know is that this kid has a hauntingly beautiful voice. His voice is so soothing and distinct that you can immediately identify it like in Shout to the Lord when many others were like screaming the notes. Forget his age, just listen to the music and stop thinking so much!

Have you heard Nelly Fortado’s version?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZFHszG1Xvs

All I can say, Archie’s version is the best among the versions that have been flying around on the tube.

David’s version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AulcSU2tsIg

Maybe ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not the emotion that you think the songwriter intended, but then that is the beauty of music. Singers bring different cards to the table even while singing the same song.

A lot of people thought he was far too young to pull off “Don’t Let the Sun Go Down on Me,” and look how that turned out. He was clearly feeling something in that song, and boy did I feel it too (and that’s a song I’ve loved all my life so I was a little nervous).

I once read an interview with Seal where he said he didn’t like to explain his lyrics to people because he wants everyone to interpret them according to their own experience. That’s the problem I have with arguments (not any that I’ve read today) that a certain person can’t sing a certain song for reasons a, b, or c. I think if you love a song and have a visceral reaction to the music (as JudyOhio so eloquently described above), then the lyrics aren’t the most important thing. I know that there are plenty of songs that I really truly love that lyrically have nothing to do with my life. And if I were able to sing a decent note I would probably sing those songs the best because I love them the most.

Dude people..why are u dissecting so much of this..à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ oh heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not that great, canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t feel it all cuz he lacks experience.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  All I know is that this kid has a hauntingly beautiful voice. His voice is so soothing and distinct that you can immediately identify it like in Shout to the Lord when many others were like screaming the notes. Forget his age, just listen to the music and stop thinking so much!

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Hi pixie!

Daivd A maybe the most taLented vocally simply put he is not my favorite and I respect others whom say he is thiers.

Speaking of vocals I enjoy at times reading MasterClass Lady take on vocals . Thanks for the link to her cite.

A lot of people thought he was far too young to pull off à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t Let the Sun Go Down on Me,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  and look how that turned out. He was clearly feeling something in that song, and boy did I feel it too (and thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a song Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve loved all my life so I was a little nervous).

He was incredibly moving singing “Don’t Let the Sun Go Down on Me” on the finale. My issue isn’t about interpreting a song in a particular way. Every singer brings his or her own interpretation to a song, I don’t have a problem with that.

Having said that, In my opinion, his interpretation of “Crazy” sounded, to borrow JPfan’s word “academic” to me, as if he was singing it without a clear understanding of what the song means.

Somehow when I heard that David A was going to sing this,I knew that the Jason vs David comparison would begin as is natural. I just thought the timing was off on David performing this now. David A has a wonderful voice that has been recognized by being signed and receiving so much more attention than Jason by the media. I just felt that this is Jasons song during the tour and his time to sing it. I thought that should have been respected. David A would have had so much time and opportunity after the tour to show us what he can also do with that song.

I think that it is so awesome that David A and Jason seem to be developing a close relationship, like Mj and David C. I am sure they are both alright with it though, I just thought it was an odd song choice for this time, NOT that he should never do it of course, just waited for after the tour.

I think the pianist contributed to “Crazy” sounding academic…like a recital. I rarely like anything sang in a stripped down “news studio.” Same thing as when Taylor did BSD in a little studio. To me, these are like “snippets” of an artist and no more. I mean, it’s not like we’re discussing a physical CD, just a single performance. Another example would be how many idols butcher the national anthem. Single performance snapshots.

I love Archie’s version of Crazy. It had a sadness to it I thought. Better than all the performances he did on the show. This is the first time he moved me when I listen to him sing.

JudyOhio, that’s David himself. Watch the youtube video here. It isn’t easy to accompany oneself while singing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRLiQB3uGo8

Having said that, In my opinion, his interpretation of à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Crazyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  sounded, to borrow JPfanà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s word à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“academicà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  to me, as if he was singing it without a clear understanding of what the song means.

Let me throw another loop in this just for discussions sake (cause I love these). Maybe he wasn’t really feeling it today. The setting really wasn’t codusive to get emotional. It was early morning, a cold studio with cameras pointed at him and no live audience to feed off of like he is used to these last months. So he was going through the motions. Also, he did say he hadn’t rehearsed it in awhile.

I loved it though!

Sumidol, I get you but I kinda don’t think David had a choice. I’m not sure this was all his idea. I think he is just doing what he is told to do. I don’t think he was super comfortable today and hadn’t rehearsed/performed these songs in awhile. He was just people pleasing. IMO

JudyOhio, David said he hadn’t played it in awhile. I don’t think he was comfy and he appologized afterward. LOL

OK, I’m posting waaaayyy too much. @_@ You all will be glad to know that I’m going to a meeting soon and I’ll get lost.

I was worried about it living up to expectations after all the hype but I guess I had nothing to worry about. Kid is brilliant. He is bar none the best vocalist this show has ever seen.

I understand what a lot of you are saying about not feeling the lyrics and emotion when someone so young sings a song like this. But what is so strange about David A is that somehow, someway (even though he may not have the real life experience) he always finds a way to connect to every single song he sings. While he may be a bit on the immature side when speaking, he is a completely different person when singing. The maturity and connection when he sings astonishes me. He really is a child prodigy, not only vocally but artistry and musicality also.

I don’t get the hatred of him by so many Jason fans. This is NOT Jason’s song to begin with. Why should he be the only one who gets to sing it? Jason AND David A sang this in Hollywood. Jason fans even had the chance to hear Jason’s version before the tour but David’s fans have been dying to hear his for months. Why is not ok for him to sing it ONCE? What’s the deal? Do his fans not deserve to hear his version at all? The whole thing is utterly ridiculous IMO.

LOL …. omg. I just watched the one up there where it shows a still of DA with the song going. Now that I’ve seen it in motion (thanks ianamy), it IS him, lol.
I feel stupid, lol……….Anyway, I’ll stand by it. His piano playing left a lot to be desired and screwed the song up “for me.”

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Long-time lurker here, first-time poster. Abbysee, you’re my hero. Love your posts, and I totally agree with just about everything you’ve articulated. The kid is amazing – musicality and then some. I feel the emotion as well – goosebumps all over the place! Can’t wait to see him grow – the sky’s the limit, as long as the label doesn’t force him into the bubble-gum thing. Clearly, that is not what he’s looking for, and it would be a horrible waste of talent.

That said, while I was an Archie fan from the beginning, I have to say that my “Cookie love” has grown immensely, as well. I know – I’m the minority. I LOVE both Davids, and appreciate the vast differences in style/interpretation. The genuine mutual admiration they showed for one another during finale week and the press tour was a beautiful thing to watch.

Coming from a Jason fan, I really liked Archie’s version of Crazy. He changed it [well, slowed it down] to fit his style. IMO, anyway. I do prefer Jason’s version, though. Just more of my taste.

But He did a nice job on it. :]

It’s a pretty voice and an interesting rendition but like many have said, it’s not all about the pretty. I agree with mj; Crazy as a ballad is a little iffy. The original was very distinctive and definitive which is why many covers steer away from that. I actually like Nelly Furtado’s version because there’s a sort of plaintive quality that she brings to the song — Jason too. It especially suits his voice, IMO.

I was not a fan of DA’s during the show; I liked Jason, still do. Since the show, I’m appreciating DA more and more. I think the boy has a huge, HUGE career ahead of him. I love watching the careers progress (or not) of these kids. It’s like watching sports to me, lol. Kinda fun. Don’t know what I’d read without this MJ Big Blog though. It’s so nice to have a blog that allows discussion of the whole enhilada….the kids, the show, the judges, the tour…it’s all here!

Still keeping tabs on Taylor, Clay, Pickler, Clarkson, Elliott, and more. It’s sport. I probably need professional help for this mini obsession, lol

“Sumidol, I get you but I kinda donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think David had a choice. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not sure this was all his idea. I think he is just doing what he is told to do. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think he was super comfortable today and hadnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t rehearsed/performed these songs in awhile. He was just people pleasing. IMO”

I bet that you are right in that, there was an interview yesterday that Mj put up where he was surprised to be singing that, someone was stirring up a little controversy maybe. The tour has been going so well, all have really been bringing it, the ones that I never paid attention to I am now. So maybe that was a little too boring for some, who knows. It is really no big deal, I know.

I am a huge Jason fan Idolfan 86 and I sure dont see any hate for David A on here, as a matter of fact since this tour I have opened my eyes and ears up to David A more and more. It was always David C and Jason, I think it is great that Jason and David a are becoming fast friends, no HATE going on here at least. Just thought it was odd timing and I dont get the why should only Jason GET to sing this song, while I enjoy the song I dont get what the big to do is over GETTING to sing this particular song. It sure isnt Jasons song, but lets see if Jason goes out and sings Apoligize right now or Mj goes out and sing Billie Jean right now. Syesha, why dont you go sing 1234 and so on – just the timing is off

Wow, what a discussion. I agree with MJ on this one. And, totally disagree that Archie has the purest vocals of any contestant to ever grace the AI stage. Like him or not, that distinction belongs to Clay Aiken. Archie put an R&B flavor on this song, which I didn’t care for, but, that’s the way he sings. And, yes, he needs to stick to 17 year old songs for now. He will mature.

I think you’re right about Clay Aiken regarding purest vocals skylight. I am certainly no claymate, but would definitely agree.

I agree, JudyOhio. Don’t know what I would do without this blog, and I too am thinking I might need some help! Thank you MJ, for all the hard work.

Cindy, I must say that although I’m a fan of Archie’s and really enjoyed his take on “Crazy”, I was at opening night of the live tour in Glendale, and I thought Jason’s version was AMAZING. He killed that song. Also, a bit off topic, but I have to wonder how in the world Archie and Jason “wandered” around Portland (as Archie mentioned in his blog) all day without being mobbed??

LOL à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. omg. I just watched the one up there where it shows a still of DA with the song going. Now that Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve seen it in motion (thanks ianamy), it IS him, lol.

That’s so funny. He did apologize at least once for the piano playing. On top of that, it was an electronic keyboard rather than a piano, which really did give it a “plunky” sound. :smile_wp:

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get the hatred of him by so many Jason fans.

Actually, I’ve not seen any hatred here today. Am I missing something?

idolfan86,

You said (emphasis mine):

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get the hatred of him by so many Jason fans. This is NOT Jasonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s song to begin with. Why should he be the only one who gets to sing it? Jason AND David A sang this in Hollywood. Jason fans even had the chance to hear Jasonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s version before the tour but Davidà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fans have been dying to hear his for months. Why is not ok for him to sing it ONCE? Whatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the deal? Do his fans not deserve to hear his version at all? The whole thing is utterly ridiculous IMO.

Not getting (or giving) a hatred vibe here. I just wondered, “Why now?”, while the tour is going on, and this song is currently (nobody mentioned or implied “forever”) associated with Jason. I just found it … odd. That’s all. I also said, to try to prevent being perceived as hating (or even disliking) David A., that I’m sure he sang it beautifully.

Peace be with you.

Most all of Jason’s fans love Archie. Having said that, a lot are upset that this song was chosen for him to sing today, while Jason is doing it on tour. They aren’t mad at Little D. He’s too adorkable for anyone to hate on him.

And, Archie did a stellar job on “DLTSGDOM”, but, I still prefer Clay Aiken and Bo Bice’s versions. Especially, Bo’s.

We don’t know who chose this song. David only know about it and practiced last night. Notice how fox anchors says that they got clearance on this song? It is prearranged because clearance takes time, and the AI people are responsible to obtain the rights.

If anyone is upset, David is in no way to be blame.

It’s interesting that DA’s version of Crazy evoked such a variety of responses.

I loved the interpretation. This is such a great song and with David’s voice is so beautiful, haunting and pure. This is one amazing kid. I’m so glad he sings and that I will have the good fortune to buy his stuff. Anyway, I was feeling it.

I’m a Castro fan too and am thrilled that both singers like so much a song that I’m crazy about from such a great album. How cool! Cee-Lo did such a chilling, evocative job that I am always interested to hear what other artists do with it, how they give it their own feel. It’s a special tune for sure.

In regards to Jason fans being upset that David sang this, I’m mainly talking about various other boards where they act like it’s a crime that David sang “Jason’s” song. I’m sorry if you guys thought I was referring to the posters here because I wasn’t. You all have been very mature about it.

And regarding Clay Aiken being the best singer to ever grace the AI stage, well you’re probably right. Technically, they don’t get any better than him. But David A is right up there with him and I much prefer the tone and smoothness of David’s voice.

David sang the song because many of his fans have been waiting for him to sing this song since Hollywood week. He has gotten tons and tons of requests to sing this song. He even wanted to sing it on tour but I guess Jason asked first. Some have mentioned that he could have waited until after the tour. I’m not seeing when he could have done it after the tour. After the tour he is going to be heavily working on his album. And when he does perform in public he isn’t going to be singing covers. He will be singing his own single. And he didn’t sing the song on a national tv station. He sang it on his own hometown’s local tv station.

I have a question for those who think that this song isn’t for a 17 year old and that he doesn’t have the emotional maturity to sing it. What do you feel this song is about?

Well, the fact is that David hasn’t gone through puberty yet,and, his voice is subject to crack and falter, so, IMO, it isn’t as smooth and pure as it can or will be.

Is anyone aware that Sanjaya also sang, “Waiting for the World to Change,” during top 24 week? I’m not sure if it was top 24, 20 or 16 though, but,it’s on you tube.

I really liked Archie’s take on “Crazy”, although I can’t help but compare it to Jason’s — I thought Jason’s voice and vocal stylings matched the song more. Still, I really liked Archie’s version too.

Nevermind!

For what it’s worth, an Archie fan posted on another site that when she got to meet him after the Tacoma show and mentioned to him that she heard he’d be singing “Crazy” on the local shows this week, he was stunned – completely unaware that he’d be singing it. He even commented that he hadn’t rehearsed it in a while. Apparently, the decision was made for him, and he obliged.

What amazes me about DA is how he not only interpreted the song, but how he sang it. Try to imitate all the key changes and notes he hit. Very few singers would pull that song off as well as he did.

ITA, Caffiend. Those key changes, etc. are somewhat subtle, but sooo difficult to pull off!

Cee-lo Green’s vocals have such a dark haunted quality to them that’s totally missing from this interpretation. And then strip out Dangermouse’s funk beats and you aren’t left with much.
The way everyone went on about this version during the competition, I guess I was expecting more. It wasn’t any better or worse than anything else David sang.

I wasn’t an Archie fan during the show, but I am slowly being converted – I LOVE his voice on both these songs. David Cook and Jason are my favs and I love Jason’s version of Crazy but I like little David’s too. They are very different for sure, but it’s all good! I would buy all three of these guys CD’s.

I’ll just say that I’m glad that Jason won the coin toss or whatever and gets to perform “Crazy” on tour. I like the song a bit raw.

Same here dante, I would buy all three of their CDs (and possibly a Carly), lol

I will be buying David C’s & Jasons for sure. I will be buying David A’s also for my youngest son because he doesnt have a job yet. I will listen to it, I will have to, we will take turns, but I won’t mind.

skylight? Why do you think David hasn’t gone through puberty yet? He’s 17 for goodness sake — my 13 year olds are there already as are most of their friends.

I’m thinking his voice has pretty much already changed. My opinion and a smiple guess – but I’m not going to place money on it.

Please remember to have respect for other peoples opinions. This is a discussion here, don’t dictate your opinions to others, or tell people what to do.

I’ve had to delete a few posts, but so far it’s been an AWESOME discussion.

Thanks so much, to everyone, for your thoughtful posts.

I never liked the tone of Clay’s voice..I think he was more liked for his personality than his voice. I think the top male vocalists EVER on AI are Elliott Yamin, David Archuleta, and Daugtry.

I just listened to Archuleta’s version of “Crazy” and I must say that some are way too nitpicky with this kid. I thought it was an awesome performance for a one man band.

As a mother of sons, I sure would HOPE that he has gone through puberty! If not, he would be way, WAY late, lol. What he will do though, is grow into a more mature body and face. That is still to come. (Just look at any guys high school graduation picture and compare it to him say at age 25…major diff).

He’s more than likely pretty much stuck with his speaking voice by this time too. Not singing voice….his speaking voice.

I think it’s much easier to feel the nuances in his performance if you WATCH him sing it instead of just listen to the audio:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aGxEv3J8ns

It actually seems as though he is singing it for the first time in a long time… so please consider that when you evaluate the emotive part of his rendition. Better, MJ? LOL

idolfan86,

Thanks for explaining. Now that makes sense. “Some peoples’ kids!” … as I always say. :mrgreen_wp:

Crzyshrk,
I agree with you with that… I never cared for Clay’s voice.. it’s actually kind of robotic… it kind of just comes out, without much feeling. And I agree, vocally Elliott, Daughtry, & Archuleta have the most talented voices.

I think Clay and Archie are the top 2 male vocalists. Their voices are very different. Clay is AC. Archie is pop. He can do AC when he gets older, but not now. Chris and Elliot both have very distinctive, great voice too. No surprise that they are doing so well in the industry.

Omg, 100 responses and counting! No time to go back and read right now so sorry if this has been posted already but:
I understand Jeff is the guardian, but must he go EVERYWHERE w/ Archie? I mean seriously, give the kid SOME space. He probably gets excited when he has to pee so he can actually go somewhere by himself!
Also, he sung Crazy? I dont really get that, especially since Jason got to do it on tour. Whatevs.

Archie and Elliott are my favorite male singers both with great chops but very different. I think Archie can sing anything including opera. Elliott brings that special r&b vibe to everything he does but he excells in many genres as well. I put the rock guys in a different category because they really excel at only one genre. But Daughtry is an excellent singer as well.

Ok, I quickly skimmed thru everyone’s responses. I did not mean why would Archie sing “Crazy” in a rude way. I knew they had both done it previously during the show. I just meant I found it odd for him to do now, while Jason is doing in on tour.

As someone pointed out, this was sung at a local tv station without much, if any, prep. David even apologized beforehand. That being said, this was the song that blew the judges and producers away when he sang it during hollywood week, so he must have done something right. Paula said he was incredible, Simon said he thought it was AMAZING. And both Randy and Paula bowed to him.

To the above poster, maybe he performed it now because he was in his hometown and had gotten a TON of requests for him to do this song. This was one that his fans have wanted to hear based on the response during hollywood week. Maybe they figured this was the only time to do it. Idk. But I don’t think it affects Jason since they are both different.

Ok, I am home and took the time to really listen to David sing Crazy, he is pitch perfect, his voice is lovely – it really is but like some others I dont really “feel” it but I cannot say I dont like it because he sang it right and perfectly.

I like what Michael Orland said about Jason below, it helps put into words what I feel about Jasons portrayal.

“I don’t know if he had the biggest range vocally – but that so never mattered to me. I’d rather hear someone feeling what they are singing about and making me feel something than hear someone with a huge range with no meaning behind the voice. and the lyric. But Jason did hit some high notes along the way – and definitely got more secure musically every week.Idolpianist”

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The link to this was posted in our Jason crack thread earlier and I promise I will leave this alone now. I just read this and thought, yes, that is it, not , of course on all of Davids songs, just this one, Crazy, am I referring to right now.

I read with much interest what everyone has to say about David Archuleta and I decided to throw in my two cents worth as well on the perceptions of this young man, his family, his voice…

I know alot of you here think he’s sheltered and somewhat still lacks the emotional maturity to convey emotions in his songs. This point I actually disagree to a very large extent… What i have perceived about David is strangely is ability to internalize many things and stay focused to his music. That is something that is amazingly mature and in the age where teenagers are so curious in the opposite sex, rebel against society, trying to find their voice and sometimes get frustrated in teh course of doing so… David seems strangely calm in what he wnats to do, and putting everything aside to accomplish these goals.

This is someone who strikes me as having his fair share of downs in his years that have taught him to grasp every opportunity that comes along. Let’s not forget that life has handed him hard times… the rumours of his parents filing for divorce at the age of 12, staying together because he won star search, losing his voice and his ability to sing to vocal paralysis, the numeorius doctor visits, the faith he had to pull togther to know he can do it again. He has been up there so high but shot down so low with the hand that life has dealt him, yet he has stayed positive to a certain, made it a long way to AI, stayed gracious and always in all things did his best.

Its this tenacity that brings out his music. This passion for the love of song that brings forth the tears to his renditions. To me… a woman in my thirties, I feel I’ve accomplished so little compared to this young man who through the years have been brought face on to witness tragedies (singing at 911, gun control conventions, funerals) and thorugh his gift done his best to offer whatever solace he could, to strangers who were willing to accept it.

He is everything I wish my kid could be someday. It is in his simplicity and ernestness that tells me he is matured beyond his years, have an understanding that perhaps that surpasses natural. It takes more to be gracious than to not care… stand in than walk away, be courteous than to be rude. To have joy in spirit, hopeful than disgruntled.

So yep… I do get him… smokey mountain memories ripped into my heart and told me the story of having hope in poverty… when you say you love me spoke to me that love does not always mean that between man and a woman, its sibling love, parental love, friendship love and that all needs understanding …

I liked David A (as a singer) more in the early part of the show than later. A lot of it was song choice—too many message songs, or songs that seemed too old for him. (Some of that, I blame on Paula and the producers. What 17-year-old can really be believable with as world-weary a song as “And So It Goes”? Or talking about a long-lived love, as with “Longer”?) Part of it was that I sometimes felt that the emotions communicated in songs seemed (to me) academic, to pull a word from earlier in the thread. (I actually felt that less with this version of Crazy than with some other songs that he did.) He definitely has a great voice, in terms of hitting the notes. From what I hear, his voice is even better in person.

I think about my mom, who liked David A early on but tired of him. At some point she said, “I wish that he had waited a couple of years to come on the show, finished high school, maybe had some time in college. His voice would have been just as good, but he would have been so much better as a performer.” I tend to think that’s right. For as many people as he won over in AI7, my bet is that he would have won over more in AI9 or AI10. The voice would have been as good—maybe even better. But the performance skills would likely have improved with a little more time out in the real world. YMMV.

who cares, Archie sang that “Crazy” song. Its not like its Castro’s song. I don’t know why the Castro fans are getting worked up Archie sang this song. He sang it for his fanatic fans who have been dying to hear it from him since Hollywood week. Its not gonna affect Castro’s Career if Archie sang the same song at the Good Day Utah. Like I wouldn’t care if Castro sang “Angels”.. I like them both.

I really like it when they sing songs that they aren’t doing on tour. Most years, we just get the same 3-5 songs over and over again. It’s great that AI/whoever let Archie sing something different.

I’m glad we FINALLY got to hear Archie’s version of “Crazy”. We’d heard so much about it, so it’s a real treat for his fans to get to listen to it. Plus, I love that crazy song. I’ve heard so many different versions of “Crazy”. It really allows people to bring out the nuances in it. I don’t have stats, but I think it’s rare for such a modern song to have so many high profile covers (let’s ignore the Idols, it’s been covered by a lot of other artists). I can’t think of a version of that song I’ve heard of that I don’t like. Amazing. I don’t compare them because they are all such treats. That song is a real chameloen.

Oh, and I’m also amazed that Archie’s voice still sounds so beautiful and pure. Usually, by this point in the tour, voices are getting a little ragged. I remember at the start of the season I thought his voice might not last until the end (what with having had previous vocal issues and the fact that several top 2 finishers in the past had voice issues). So, colour me surprised. Very pleasently surprised.

I enjoyed that.

Channy, I agree with you. “Simplicity” and “earnestness” are undervalued traits today. I had a family member whose pure grace shone thru in this way, and believe me, it takes much more maturity and grace to be sweet these days than it does to be someone who is on the other side, making fun (I’m not speaking of people here but the public in general; we are all so sarcastic and hip today, quick to pounce on an innocent). There is a pure soul some folks have that I recognize in this kid who is maybe not too cool for school but has something much better inside, that lives safely beyond what the world thinks.

I went ahead and took that link to the video of the song and it gave me some maybe insight into why some people found his vocals a bit academic here and there. I had no idea he was sitting at a little electronic keyboard, saying something like, um, I haven’t played this in a while, then having to remember the oddball changes while singing. No wonder why he hesitated here and there. And throughout, still a kind of sweet soul to it all. My ex-husband, a grumpy vocal couch and brutal critic, actually has cried listening to DA’s voice and he loved this rendition of Crazy as I did.

First off, I think music is subjective. It’s an art, not a science, and I’m not one to place a lot of emphasis on hitting the exact notes. I can usually tell when they are wonky, but I’m no expert.

Sooo.. I think I mentioned in the thread where it was rumored that Archie was going to sing “Crazy” on a Utah TV station that I thought it was great for his fans. I just don’t understand how it somehow detracts from Jason doing it on tour. I mean, it’s a one-off performance and it sounds to me like it was done for his fans. I think that’s cool.

In fact, I wouldn’t care if they both did it on tour. I think both guys can hold their own.

That being said, I prefer the Castro version. No big surprise there, I guess. I prefer his style and think he sings with a passion that resonates with me. Note I said with ME. I see that many here respond to Archie’s emotion/passion. I don’t get it. I thought Archie was a little plodding and didn’t quite capture what I wanted from the song, but I’m glad some of y’all liked it.

I honestly am not sure why I don’t respond to Archie. I like the kid and think he has a great voice. I wish him lots of success.

Lucyfan, thanks!

Jpfan, Caffeind, and Kirsten, totally agree on what you guys have said.

What’s really cool about this is the passion that this young man evokes in others. Whether they get him musically or not, he at least is acknowledged. MJ posts lots of stuff on here daily, and very few get the kind of attention that young David received today. I think good critiques and even the bad are good for him as an artist. It’s gonna be exciting to watch what he acheives with maturity and seasoning. I can’t wait.

abbysee, I hope you’re right, but I suspect a lot of the posts were more about the song choice than Archie. His John Mayer song was barely mentioned.

“It’s gonna be exciting to watch what he acheives with maturity and seasoning. I can’t wait.”

That’s right abbysee, and that’s what’s so enjoyable about a lot of these AI kids. And because of Jason’s lack of experience, I am excited to watch him also.

I already see DC as having more experience, so I dont angst regarding him. Same with MJ. As a matter of fact, I think DC will be quite successful.

Jason and DA bring out the Grandma in me, what can I say, lol.

As a Jason fan, I want to chime in on this discussion and say that I’m SO glad Archie got to sing “Crazy.” It must be a real treat for his fans who’ve HEARD about how great it was during Hollywood Week but never got to see Archie’s take on it. Jason fans at least get to see his version on Tour.

With that said, I thought Archie did a good job on both of his songs. “Waiting on the World to Change” fits his vocals and style better though, imo. If he makes a record with songs like that, I’ll have to check it out!

And I think it’s so freaking cute that Archie and Jason are good friends. Wandering around town? LOL. I would love to hear what they’re conversations are like. Jason probably says really dumb things when his brain is dead, and Archie giggles uncontrollably. Hmm…I guess I could see how they would get along!

I remember Jason saying in a post-elimination interview that Archie reminds him of himself when he was younger. He told Archie a couple times that he would wind up like him when he got older and Archie was like, “No! *giggles*”

With distance and time, I am thinking more and more that this past season of AI was superb. Usually it goes the other way as time passes, but not this time.

For me, Jason Castro and David Archuletta have unique and amazing gifts and I am so glad this venue of AI gave them a great start to a solid career. They would be my two favorites of the season. It’s like lightning striking twice. Two very special talents and both in one year.

But then I think David Cook has a fantastic voice and I’m so happy he won. In fact, he was my guess to win all along because his performances were consistently professional, he knows just what he wants to do, and he seemed to have a great temperament to deal with all the crap and pressure. I also really liked Chikeze and Brooke. And I didn’t dislike any of them. A great season!

I like that song Crazy so much that I wish each one of them would sing their own version of it on tour, that would be cool.

about how the song came to be:

http://www.elyrics.net/read/g/gnarls-barkley-lyrics/crazy-lyrics.html
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Jun 10, 2008 at 03:49 AM by DenCore
The songà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s lyrics, written by Cee-Lo, were inspired by a conversation he and Danger Mouse had in the studio with the instrumental playing on repeat: Danger Mouse was à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“caught up in thinking that people have to believe youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re crazy to think youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re an artist.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ [8] After the conversation, Cee-Lo recorded the vocals for the song in just one take.
thank you Wikipedia

It didnt let me edite my previous post..

Just so people are aware he hasnt done Crazy for about 6 months, Waitig on the World for about a year… He’s even admitted over the course of AI he’s gotten a little stiff with the piano playing since he hasnt had much chance to work on it.

I dont imagine anyone else would be doing too much beter at about 7-8am in the morning with a song they havent done in a long time..

For as many people as he won over in AI7, my bet is that he would have won over more in AI9 or AI10.

You’re probably right, and I had the same thought early on, but selfishly I’m happy he was a part of this season. For one, I love the chemistry within this group. It wouldn’t have been the same season without Archie. More importantly, part of his appeal for a lot of us is his sweetness and innocence, and the unexpected confidence he assumes when singing. I love Archie at 17 and now we get to watch him develop and grow.

I remember Jason saying in a post-elimination interview that Archie reminds him of himself when he was younger. He told Archie a couple times that he would wind up like him when he got older and Archie was like, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“No! *giggles*à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

This put a smile on my face. And I haven’t even finished my coffee. :biggrin_wp:

What a great discussion this has been. I’ve really enjoyed it!

It seems like a natural friendship — Archie and Jason, even with the age difference. In my little imagination they’ve kinda grouped off on the bus — MJ and Cook, Archie and Jason, and Eze with Daddy-Jeff. (LOL on the Eze and Dad — but I know they were together way back in the apartment situation for a time and I really don’t know anything about Eze’s personality.)

I think Jason and David are younger, more religious types; whereas Cook and MJ are older and have actually seen (and probably done) more out in the big old world. I’m glad they’re having some fun and I hope they’re all getting along.

Jeff should have stayed off camera in this interview — he really needs to take a giant step back and let David be David.

Jeff should have stayed off camera in this interview à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  he really needs to take a giant step back and let David be David.

From what I’ve read, actually, I think David’s been pretty independent on tour. I think because it was a hometown station they wanted to interview Jeff too. He was finally able to speak to the press and they obviously wanted to ask him about the negative attention he got during the season. David did the talking when the questions were about him. That was my take on it, at least.

I don’t see why Jeff should be interviewed as well too if David is in any sense an independent person, hometown or no hometown. The impression I got in fact is that everything has been arranged by Jeff, David has little to do with it – given that he didn’t even know he was going to perform “Crazy” beforehand until a fan told him so, and note that it was Jeff who answered why David will be performing that song. Jeff is the one running the show, and is determined to have his moments in the limelight.

David needs to dump his chaperone if he is to become independent.

Well, this (predominantly) Jason fan just downloaded Archie’s Crazy mp3 and is now listening to it repeatedly because she really likes it. Now if somebody could point her in the direction of an mp3 download of Waiting on the World to Change, she’d be very grateful because she likes that one even better.

Here you go, purplesmile:

http://www.mediafire.com/?bwnwlmp00xb

I hope that one works for you. :smile_wp:

Jeff is the one running the show, and is determined to have his moments in the limelight.

I can’t agree or disagree with this, since I don’t know Jeff and have no idea what his motivations are. I was just giving my take on that particular interview, and I didn’t get the sense that he was there for the spotlight. Again, JMO.

This has been an interesting read. Originally, I was puzzled about DA singinging “Crazy” to promote the tour.
Sure, it was a song he did during auditions and sang it well. Sure, JC didn’t write it… but, as the judges always say… Jason “made it his own”.
I want to like to like Jeff, just cause he has raised such a great kid. I still feel Jeff is the most puzzling part of the whole discussion.
Like some of you stated:
Jeff seems like he arranged what David would sing, without David knowing.
Jeff needs to stop with the on camera interviews, during this tour.
Explaining why David is singing “Crazy”, makes Jeff look worse.
Jeff telling concertgoers that he’s excited to be asked for his autograph & pic, doesn’t help.

David should have an amazing career ahead of him. Hopefully, Jeff can back off and won’t scare off people in the biz.

Thank you, lefty. I also just found that link, courtesy of the Pinoy Archie fans.

I listened to Archie’s version of Crazy last night, as I said I would. I also listened to Waiting on the World to Change, too. I also (Hi, purplesmile! :clap_tb:) am predominantly a Jason (or Jasonnn – see? :mrgreen_wp:) fan.

During the Idol auditions, I picked Archie out as an early favorite of mine. Throughout the show, however, it got to the point where I could barely stand to listen to him. I’m not sure where (or even why) the change occurred, but his performances were … idk. Can’t put it into words. And then, toward the end of the show, he started to grow on me again. Go figure. (He really is adorable.) But I didn’t think I ever buy any of his music (at least not until he maybe “matured” a bit more).

IMHO, Archie has officially matured, and I’m anxiously awaiting his CD release.

Not as anxiously as Jasonnn’s, mind you. :wub_tb:

Genetically, I hope DA doesn’t take after his dad. Jeff is almost dwarfish in appearance. He is short and has rounded, slanting shoulders and short arms, lol. Hoping DA will square off at the shoulders and get some height from his mother. Sorry, but just another over-observation of the DA maturing process, lol

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David is a prodigy and while music may be subjective, it is very clear that people in the business, who have done this for years, see that clearly. I loved this version of Crazy. Personally, I don’t get people that don’t get David. His ability to understand music, interpret a song, connect emotionally and deliver to so many of us intimately is done as a result of his genius. His pitch, tone, phrasing, and big voice are his trademark. Nobody sings like David Archuleta and he IMO is a legend in the making. He is changing lives with his moving and unforgettable performances. I don’t think there is an Idol out there that has had an impact like David Archuleta on so many lives. It’s almost a spiritual experience. The music Exec’s also see this.

Regarding Jeff. Jeff is obviously a kind, supportive father who should remain involved to guide and protect his son. It seems to me that many are missing the bigger picture here. What is best for David? He is only 17. Certainly, nobody can really think it’s in his best interest to be thrown to the sharks in the biz! Who knows him better then his parent’s and who would have David’s best interest as their top priority. Keep up the great work Mr. and Mrs. Archuleta! Your son shines.

As a side note, IMO, it doesn’t seem MJ has ever liked Archie. Josiah was MJ’s pick and she finally settled with Cook. That has been obvious all year. And so it goes. Don’t get me wrong, Josiah is great! A bit of a musical genius himself. Both of them are young and we’ve only seen the tip of the iceberg. But age hasn’t been an issue with Josiah only with David in MJ posts I’ve read. I don’t get that and won’t even try cuz I don’t see it as an issue with David or Joisah but just a point I wanted to make. As for who will be around in the future, my money is on Archie FTW.

But age hasn’t been an issue with Josiah only with David in MJ posts I’ve read. I don’t get that and won’t even try cuz I don’t see it as an issue with David or Joisah but just a point I wanted to make.

You are misquoting me. I said Archie lacked life experience. I said nothing about his age. BIG difference.

Thanks MJ. But I am referring to several quotes from you about David’s “young age” throughout this year which are spun negatively, while I have seen the spin completely opposite for Josiah. Anyone that has been here this year will recall. It’s okay to just say you don’t like him but to say you are trying to be objective and balanced doesn’t seem quite accurate. Thanks.

For the record this was what you said:

“He’s not experienced enough to imbue real feeling into a song about complex emotions.”

You are kidding right? He imbue’s real feeling into EVERY song due to his complex emotions beyond his years! Sorry, I don’t think you are even watching the same person that I and millions of others have been watching. The boy has performed for millions. He had traveled the world performing before he was 15, has everyone he meets saying what a wonderful person he is, and developed the maturity and strength to get through what many much older than he could not handle. AI.
I can’t help but think this kid has been through more emotions then many people have to deal with in their lifetime. And he’s done it beautifully and with such humility and sincerity that he inspires people from age 8- to 80 everywhere in the world.

OK. MJ I know this is your blog so ‘nuf said. But at least be fair and call a spade a spade. You just don’t get David Archuleta. It’s ok just don’t pretend you do.

Thanks.