Monday Morning Mediabase Update – Mar 8-14

Kris hit a trio of milestones this week with his single LLWD. The song went top 5 on HAC, top 10 on Pop and top 20 on AC. This is his first top 5 hit song. Add in going platinum in sales and it was quite a week for that song. For good measure, it also returned to the CAC chart.

Meanwhile, Kris’s Season 8-mates also notched milestones of their own. Adam’s WWFM went top 15 on Pop and Danny’s MBD went to top 30 on Country. Those are their first top 15 and top 30 songs respectively.

Also making her mark was Kelly Clarkson whose AIEW vaulted onto the HAC chart at 31st.

We say goodbye to three songs. Daughtry’s “No Surprise” went recurrent on AC (when still in the top 10) while Jason and Katharine songs also left the HAC and AC charts respectively.

Here are your Monday Morning Mediabase Updates for airplay as of 4:21 am of 03/14/10 after the jump.

Adam Lambert:
“Whataya Want From Me”: ^14 Pop (16), ^16 HAC (16), , ^35 AC (37)

Carrie Underwood:
“Cowboy Casanova” : 26 HAC (25)
“Temporary Home” : ^3 Country (5)

Danny Gokey:
“My Best Days are Ahead”: ^30 Country (32)

Daughtry:
“Life After You”: ^6 HAC (5), ^21 Pop (23), ^22 AC (24)

Kellie Pickler:
“Didn’t You Know How Much I Loved You”: 26 Country (21)

Kelly Clarkson:
“All I Ever Wanted”: ^31 HAC (51)
“Already Gone”: ^4 AC (5)

Kris Allen:
“Live Like We Are Dying”: ^5 HAC (6), ^10 Pop (11), ^18 AC (22), 49 CAC (OFF)

Phil Stacey:
“Some Kind of Love”: ^48 CAC (47)

Ruben Studdard:
“Don’t Make ‘Em Like…”: 15 UAC (15)

Note: Numbers indicate position on the chart while numbers in brackets indicate the position on the chart the previous week (10:42 pm of 03/07/10). The “^” (aka “a bullet”) indicates that a song gained spins since last week

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174 Comments

  1. I have to say that for a song that many predicted was doomed from the start, LLWD has notched some impressive achievements. That song has had more lives than a cat and just like Kris, the song kept chugging along when I thought it had peaked. I had hoped it would go top 10 on HAC and top 20 on Pop, so I will admit to underestimating the song as well.

    I do think that it is probably time for a new single. LLWD can’t go much higher on Pop, although it can probably go a few spots higher on HAC. One needs to get the new single out before the previous single drops too far and album sales need to be factored in (if the album sales drop too much, there may not be much of a push for the second single).

  2. Kirsten I agree. I hope at least in the next couple of weeks we hear something about his next single. I’M so proud of Kris, Adam, And Danny doing so well on the charts. I always loved LLWD from the beginning but never thought he would get that song as high as it did. I knew it would do good, but never thought that it would do this good.

  3. I think a 2nd single for Kris pronto is a great idea. He really needs a second song to create interest in him as an artist and not just a single seller. LLWD has done great on radio. Probably the biggest song for a winner/runner up since Tattoo. With an exception for Crush which didn’t do as well on radio but sold 2 million dls. I don’t think LLWD will sell that many but I could see 1.5 eventually.

  4. Major congrats to Kris on these milestones!

    Kristen, I agree with you on much of what you said. I have a feeling it can still go higher and possibly hit #1. It was much maligned from the start, but I feel that was primarily sour grapes and grasping at straws to bring Kris down.

    It’s definitely time for a second single, particularly with his tour getting underway. A second single would prop the album sales up and renew interest in it. I’m torn on what that single should be since there are so many songs on the album that I love.

  5. With an exception for Crush which do as well on radio but sold 2 million dls. I don’t think LLWD will sell that many but I could see 1.5 eventually.

    I’m pretty sure Crush topped out at #11, so LLWD has surpassed that.

    Also of note, LLWD is gaining on Heartbreak Warfare on the HAC chart, with less than 50 spins between them, so #4 on HAC is well within reach.

    But a new single is needed pronto. Hopefully Jive will get on this quickly and pick wisely, so there isn’t a repeat of the Arhie/Cook failures on second singles.

  6. I know LLWD passed Crush on Pop but sales factor into the success of a single as well. That’s why I said LLWD was a bigger radio hit.

    I hope Jive follows through with good promo for single 2.

  7. I have to say that for a song that many predicted was doomed from the start, LLWD has notched some impressive achievements.

    ITA. I wasn’t one of the folks who pronounced this single DOA only three days after it was released, but even I didn’t think it would crack Top 10 in CHR. Just goes to show that you never know which songs will click with radio and the music buying public. Congrats to Kris on the milestones. If LO is the “platinum boat anchor”, then is LLWD “Jive’s platinum mistake”?

    I agree that it’s time for a second single for Kris. I hope it’s AWM. That song is so catchy. I think it could do well for Kris.

    Adam’s single is doing quite nicely as well. I thought WWFM would be a hit for him the first time I heard it. Maybe it will crack Top 10 too.

  8. Here are today’s updates from Kworb at Pulse. Apparently daylight savings time negatively impacted spin updates all around. We’ll have to see what happens in a day or two after things normalize.

    Published Reports

    POP:
    15 14 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 4963 4647 316 28.574
    +2 Spins
    -101 Bullet
    -0.221 AI

    HAC:
    16 16 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 1719 1609 110 9.677
    -21 Spins
    -68 Bullet
    +0.084 AI

    POP:
    11 10 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dying 5799 5653 146 33.783
    -29 Spins
    -78 Bullet
    +0.199 AI

    HAC:
    6 5 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dying 3575 3295 280 18.662
    -4 Spins
    -25 Bullet
    +0.313 AI

  9. Kris hit a trio of milestones this week with his single LLWD. The song went top 5 on HAC, top 10 on Pop and top 20 on AC. This is his first top 5 hit song. Add in going platinum in sales and it was quite a week for that song. For good measure, it also returned to the CAC chart.

    Go LLWD!!!! The song may have peaked on Pop, but is definitely going strong on HAC and AC (after considering the DST impact). It will be interesting to see if LLWD was able to achieve the top IDOL spin count for this past week!

  10. If LO is the “platinum boat anchor”, then is LLWD “Jive’s platinum mistake”?

    If I had been drinking when I read this I definitely would have spit it out all over my keyboard.

    But seriously, LLWD is called the platinum flop, the platinum mistake, etc, etc. I guess all artists should hope to have a platinum flop going forward.

  11. LLWD has always been a great song IMO. I am happy that it is doing so well. Kris deserves the success. I may have my thoughts about s8 AI finale( who doesn’t on this baord! LOL!) but that has nothing to do with my hope that Kris is successful. He is a talented man.

    I have a general question. How do they move up in the charts when spins and bullets go down a bit?

  12. Go LLWD!!!! The song may have peaked on Pop, but is definitely going strong on HAC and AC (after considering the DST impact). It will be interesting to see if LLWD was able to achieve the top IDOL spin count for this past week!

    It has – Brian’s article is already up.

  13. Pop

    83 55 KELLY CLARKSON All I Ever Wanted 315 62 253 0.816

    +52 Spins
    +47 Bullet
    +0.142 Audience

  14. I’d say failure is relative on a second single. If you look only at single downloads, CBTM was indeed a slow mover, though it has hit about 440,000 in sales. If you consider that it only just fell off the recurrent chart nearly a year after debuting, with no real promotion in many, many months, it doesn’t look too bad. It also charted high on HAC. If you consider the amount of album sales during that period, it also doesn’t look so bad. Single sales are not the only measure of single success. Was CBTM huge or even as big as LO? No, but it can hardly be classed with Archie’s second single, which came and went quickly and sold significantly less of itself and the album; I’m not sure it even charted.

  15. It’s really great that LLWD went this far. Triple yay for the trio of milestones. Love that song! In retrospect he couldn’t have started with a better album’s song in my opinion. A 2nd single s/b released as soon as LLWD starts going down a bit on the charts. I think AWM might be more successful than BWCU as a second single because it’s very catchy and I feel spring is a good season to release it

  16. Jae, if other songs around it are losing spins at a faster rate than a given song, that song can “fall up” the chart. Likewise, a song can gain spins and still drop in position if the songs around it are gaining faster.

  17. It will be interesting to see if LLWD was able to achieve the top IDOL spin count for this past week!

    It is!

    1 2 Kris Allen, Live Like We’re Dying (11539) (#18 AC, #5 Hot AC, #10 Top 40)

    2 1 Kelly Clarkson, Already Gone (10039) (#4 AC)

    Source: http://content.usatoday.com/communities/idolchatter/post/2010/03/kris-allen-tops-the-idol-airplay-chart/1

    I have a general question. How do they move up in the charts when spins and bullets go down a bit?

    A song moves up when it has more spins than a song or songs above it. So, it can move up even if it loses spins if a song or songs above it lose more spins. It can also move up if a song above it goes recurrent and so, is removed from the chart.

    Great news for LLWD! I was also an early, I wouldn’t say believer in the song, but definitely one who thought those predicting doom within the first week were nuts. Even so, and even as I saw it chug along, I never thought it would hit Top 10 on pop. I think I thought Top 5 HAC was a possibility a while ago, but I was really happy when it hit Top 20 in pop. This song has had unbelievable legs and staying power. It has just really connected with listeners, which is great.

    I do think,, though, that it may now have peaked on pop. While it might be able to move up some more on HAC, I do think it’s time to be starting that second single push. An announcement would be nice, followed by him performing it at some of his upcoming shows.

  18. I have a general question. How do they move up in the charts when spins and bullets go down a bit?

    Other songs above them are falling faster or rising slower (i.e. losing spins more quickly or not gaining spins as quickly). It is all relative.

  19. I don’t want to revist past issues but even platinum sales don’t float all boats. LLWD has done great but hasn’t helped the album go gold and LO went platinum but didn’t go high enough on Pop to give Cook that Daughtry level of public awareness.

  20. I know LLWD passed Crush on Pop but sales factor into the success of a single as well. That’s why I said LLWD was a bigger radio hit.

    Crush’s numbers are just below 2 million copies sold, but the song has been out since August of 2008. Wouldn’t it make more sense to hold off on saying that LLWD won’t sale that amount until it has also been out for that same amount of time?

    I’m so proud of LLWD’s success. I hope Jive acts fast to take advantage of all that the song has accomplished.

    CBTM was indeed a slow mover, though it has hit about 440,000 in sales. If you consider that it only just fell off the recurrent chart nearly a year after debuting, with no real promotion in many, many months, it doesn’t look too bad. It also charted high on HAC. If you consider the amount of album sales during that period, it also doesn’t look so bad. Single sales are not the only measure of single success.

    Do you know how many albums David sold from the time that CBTM was out to the time that it went recurrent, or even up to now? I’m not sure, but I think the song fell out of the HAC top40 long ago, and based on a recent stat that Brian Mansfield posted, sales were slightly below 400,000.

  21. It was daylight savings early Sunday morning – so all song lost an hours worth of spins. For some songs that get 20-50 spins an hour – that is a big loss for the week. That is why many songs showed a decrease in weekly spins or only a small increase.

  22. 96 95 ALLISON IRAHETA Scars 47 42 5 0.08

    34 30 DANNY GOKEY My Best Days Are Ahead Of Me 875 632 243 5.372

  23. 96 95 ALLISON IRAHETA Scars 47 42 5 0.08

    I wish this was moving more. I think Scars was a poor choice, it just doesn’t have a good hook and there were so many other choices that would have been much better options – I love Don’t Waste the Pretty and I think that or D is for Dangerous have much better radio hooks.

  24. Once songs drop off the top 100 downloads, Brian will stop giving the sales numbers except on special occassions. At that point just like for albums, they’ll be a final number for the single.

    Since you could buy the song as a download for the next 50 years, it’s kind of pointless to say there’s no time limit. I just don’t think that LLWD will outsell Crush but great if it does.

  25. I think we may have to be patient a few more weeks for a second single for Kris. He’s going to Rwanda at the end of the months and back at the beginning of April. Hopefully then!

  26. WWFM officially made #1 on Canada HAC this week also. It’s been there since last moday but this is the first set chart it’s #1. Still #6 on top40, might move up in a few days.

  27. Once songs drop off the top 100 downloads, Brian will stop giving the sales numbers except on special occassions. At that point just like for albums, they’ll be a final number for the single.

    Since you could buy the song as a download for the next 50 years, it’s kind of pointless to say there’s no time limit. I just don’t think that LLWD will outsell Crush but great if it does.

    I think all that was being pointed out is to compare the numbers for the same amount of release time. Crush sold extremely well, but the question is how long did it take to reach that point and where is LLWD in comparison to LLWD at the same point in their lifespan?

  28. Babybelle, I will have to search for the sales figure post-CBTM, but I know that CBTM was still high on the HAC recurrent charts until it was pushed out of recurrency by one of Kelly’s songs going recurrent about a week ago. It would have still been charting high on HAC had it not gone recurrent in the first place.

  29. Congrats to Kris! Top 10 song! So exciting, and well deserved.

    I don’t care whom or what it outpeaked or outsold. The song did well enough to benefit Kris. So I’m very happy with that.

    I think his second song will be announced soon enough, if this really has peaked on pop. We’ll be able to tell that in a couple of days. 1st singles don’t necessarily sell albums – some do some don’t, but more often not these days – so I don’t know if his album sales level means anything alarming really. If he’s still selling like that after a second single hits the top part of the charts then we have a problem IMO.

  30. Since you could buy the song as a download for the next 50 years, it’s kind of pointless to say there’s no time limit. I just don’t think that LLWD will outsell Crush but great if it does.

    they’re both songs that have done exceedingly well, both can and i think will stand on their own merits for what they’ve achieved. both are also fine examples of the danger of selling anyone short, or being too quick off the draw to declare success or failure before the buying and listening audience has their say. i applaud kris, and jive for giving llwd the push and support it needed to radio – he and his fans should be justifiably proud – it’s an accomplishment that can never be taken away or diminished.

  31. Bleh, Jive should have gone with DWTP or DFD… really bad decision with Scars. Scars went for adds the 9th of march btw. Let’s hope for some adds this week (Z100 I am looking at YOU).

    Also looking at Cumulus and PC adds for WWFM on HAC… I heard rumors of some more Rythmics adds coming in but we’ll see.

  32. Crush sold extremely well, but the question is how long did it take to reach that point and where is LLWD in comparison to LLWD at the same point in their lifespan?

    for s’s and g’s, crush was released to itunes in august 2008, hit the platinum mark November 26, 2008…

    BILLBOARD HOT DIGITAL SONGS – TOP 50
    14 19 ARCHULETA*DAVID CRUSH 45845 -36 72001 1037502
    ** 14 (Last week), 19 (This Week), Total Sales (1 037 502)

  33. Sigh.. Jive needs to do something for Allison. Feel too bad for her, when her brothers are doing well.

  34. It took Crush 16 weeks to go platinum. And at about 24 weeks in (where LLWD is) it had sold about 1,430,000. However, the song then went recurrent so maybe LLWD can match it. The song has amazing longevity.
    I guess the final number for Crush is 1.9 official. So if LLWD is still selling in the Top 100 dls in 5 months, it has a shot.

    I think LLWD will end up around 1.5M but that’s just a guess.

  35. Crush sold extremely well, but the question is how long did it take to reach that point and where is LLWD in comparison to LLWD at the same point in their lifespan?

    Crush dominated out of the box. It is not even close. By mid-Feb of 2009, it had sold 1.57M downloads.

    Crush had a much more traditional Pop run. It climbed quickly and it died quickly.

    LLWD’s run is unusual because it never really had big spin gaining weeks and that usually spells lower chart peaks. The shelf-life of pop songs is usually quite short. So, to get high on the charts, you need a lot of adds/spins right of the start or the early adopters drop you before the late adopters jump on board. The longevity of LLWD is pretty impressive. It was released 6 months ago when most pop songs last only about 3 months (look at the number of songs on the pop chart that have come and gone since then). It is eligible to go recurrent next week once it drops below top 20.

  36. Congratulations to Kris for all the amazing milestones reached in the last few days. I’m so excited for him! He’s weathered all the nonsense thrown at him by the media/Idol fans with dignity and grace, always staying consistently classy and above the fray. He deserves this success so much. I know he was thrilled when Elton John told him how proud of him he is as well. All his fans are proud right now.

    That being said, though, let’s have the next single!

  37. Congrats to Kris! Top 10 song! So exciting, and well deserved.

    I don’t care whom or what it outpeaked or outsold. The song did well enough to benefit Kris. So I’m very happy with that.

    I agree completely! I am thrilled for Kris that LLWD has become such a big success for him. There were a lot of people who wrote this song (and Kris) off before it even had an add date. But this song’s run on the charts has been very similar to Kris’s run on Idol. And 5 months later LLWD has achieved great milestones in terms of both sales and radio airplay.

    I am also ready for the second single to be announced and released. I think LLWD could possibly go as high as #3 on HAC. But it definitely looks like the song has peaked at Pop radio at a very impressive #10.

  38. CBTM debuted 4/5 and it appears the album sold about 260k of its 1.3 million total after that point. Not huge, but hardly a complete failure.

    As far as radio, CBTM fell off the Billboard top 20 recurrent chart, but is still on the Mediabase HAC recurrent chart at #22, which would make it still the #44 song on HAC after nearly a year. Again, not bad for a failure.

    I borrowed all of these figures from charts put together by Ladymadonna.

  39. Once songs drop off the top 100 downloads, Brian will stop giving the sales numbers except on special occassions. At that point just like for albums, they’ll be a final number for the single.

    Not to nitpick, but he gives the numbers for the top 200 songs. I do agree that it is silly to say that a song won’t reach a certain mark, as long as it is playing on the radio somewhere, people will buy it.

    Stations being slow to add LLWD, may have resulted in it climbing the chart at a snails pace, and it might result in the song not going above ten on the pop chart, but the benefit is that it helped to give Kris and the song more exposure, and it will mean that LLWD won’t drop like a rock as stations either decrease the rotation or drop the song. Even though it lost more than twenty spins yesterday, it saw a very healthy increase in AI, as stations in large cities upped the number of spins. This will lead to the numbers sold each week being very stable.

  40. Congrats to Kris on the LLWD milestones! Congrats to Adam on #1 in Canada and continued rise up the US pop charts! Nice to see Adam, Kris and Danny doing so well on the US charts. Adam picked up a big top 40 add today in San Francisco.

  41. It took Crush 16 weeks to go platinum. And at about 24 weeks in (where LLWD is) it had sold about 1.430 or so. However, the song then went recurrent so maybe LLWD can match it. The song has amazing longevity.

    i thought it was closer to 12 weeks [released for itunes downloads on 8/12/08] and some change, but who’s counting :-) it’s all good, both are great songs, and i’ve no doubt llwd is going to keep right on selling.

  42. WWFM got an early Top 40 add this morning, #4 market, San Francisco. I was wondering if they were going to add or not. 2 HAC and 1 AC this week so far.

    Get news for Kris and LLWD! And throw tomatoes at me, I hope AWM isn’t the next single. It’s not my fav :( I did hear Red Guitar at Stonewood Grill at dinner last night.

    I’m so nostalgic for S8 right now.

  43. Congrats to Kris on the many milestones. Although I’m not a big fan of LLWD, I always felt it very much fit the top 40 sound and would do well. I never tried to guess how well, but I never doubted it would sell. I expected WWFM to sell well, also. So no surprises, but good for them. I keep expecting both to peak, but not quite there yet. I am sure a new single for Kris will be imminent.

  44. saga:
    03/15/2010 at 8:59 am
    Bleh, Jive should have gone with DWTP or DFD… really bad decision with Scars. Scars went for adds the 9th of march btw. Let’s hope for some adds this week (Z100 I am looking at YOU).

    Also looking at Cumulus and PC adds for WWFM on HAC… I heard rumors of some more Rythmics adds coming in but we’ll see.

    Congrats to the guys and Kelly for the great numbers! Hoping more HAC adds come in for WWFM this week, because it always seemed like it would do really well on HAC. And I guess the negative AI for WWFM may be in part due to Z100 not spinning it as heavily (since it is such a HUGE market).

    And as for Allison – ITA – Scars was not at all a smart choice for a single. If z100 picks it up, that will be huge, and I’ll believe that it has a chance to really catch on, but if that doesn’t happen, then I don’t think that single will work. Why did they choose that song? I have no idea. One would expect the preliminary research proved it would get the best reception on radio. But IDK.

  45. I’m not following WWFM as closely but it’s functioning more like a traditional pop hit. Moving up the charts more quickly than LLWD but the downside is its life on the Pop charts probably won’t be as long. I thought Brian gave the top 200 albums and top 100 single sales but I guess I’m wrong.

  46. so how long has WWFM been around?

    That is a complicated question.

    Nov 9-15: Available for purchase on official site
    Nov 15: Released to radio
    Nov 20: Available for purchase at iTunes/Amazon
    Nov 23: Album Release Date, First performance (not aired until Nov 25)
    Nov 24: Official Add Date
    Nov 25: First live performances

  47. Stations being slow to add LLWD, may have resulted in it climbing the chart at a snails pace, and it might result in the song not going above ten on the pop chart, but the benefit is that it helped to give Kris and the song more exposure, and it will mean that LLWD won’t drop like a rock as stations either decrease the rotation or drop the song. Even though it lost more than twenty spins yesterday, it saw a very healthy increase in AI, as stations in large cities upped the number of spins. This will lead to the numbers sold each week being very stable.

    I completely agree with this. LLWD is no longer in ridiculously high rotation on Z100, for example. Yet as other stations continue to add it they have picked up the slack, so to speak. I don’t think it can go any higher on Pop, but what this song has dones since we first heard it 5 months ago is completely amazing. It’s been a slow burner, much like Kris himself is, and the legs this song has had is completely insane at this point.

    I’m hoping that whatever the next single is will have as great a shelf-live and will help Kris’s exposure overall.

    Also, based on what LLWD has done, i’m curious to see what will ultimately happen with WWFM for Adam.

  48. jpfan – is it really moving up that quickly, though? IDK – I haven’t compared it to other songs, so can’t tell, but it seems to be moving up comparably to LLWD, as in, not that much faster or slower. And on HAC it seems slightly slower, but still moving up, so fingers crossed it follows some path similar to LLWD on that front too.

  49. Danny had some early adds last week (Kansas City, Los Angeles and Fresno). Hopefully he will get some more today.

    Country moves soooooo slow. I’m happy to see his song climbing. Easton Corbin at #2 has had his song on the charts 30 weeks, yikes.

    Some stations have been spinning other songs from his album, too; mainly Like Thats A Bad Thing, Life on Ya and I Will Not Say Goodbye.

    Congrats to Kris and Adam for their single success!

  50. Crush had a much more traditional Pop run. It climbed quickly and it died quickly.

    This is one of the reasons why I think Can’t Stay Away would make a good second single. I don’t think Kris needs the second single to stay around as long as LLWD has. Based on his lack of name recognition and the album sales, Kris really needed LLWD to climb as slowly as it did, so that it had the chance to really saturate most markets, and bring attention to him.

    This is also why I think it’s too soon to say how many copies of LLWD will be sold. The song has seen consistent sales of over 50,000 since the year started, and while it has hit its peak, the numbers are still very stable.

  51. Compared to LLWD, WWFM is moving up quickly. LLWD was in the 20s somewhere at this point in its life span. And stayed there for awhile. WWFM is already at 14. I don’t want to be a downer but I’m not sure how much name recognition LLWD is bringing Kris. He really needs a second single to work on his “brand” so to speak.

  52. Also, based on what LLWD has done, i’m curious to see what will ultimately happen with WWFM for Adam.

    I’m seeing WWFM following very similarly to LLWD so far. Even in terms of not getting a huge number of adds right off the bat. In fact, with the Cumulus delay, WWFM seemed to lack a lot of adds until more recently, especially on HAC. Don’t know if WWFM will get as high as LLWD, but for now I’m happy with the way both are tracking :-)

  53. jpfan:
    03/15/2010 at 9:21 am
    Compared to LLWD, WWFM is moving up quickly. LLWD was in the 20s somewhere at this point in its life span. And stayed there for ahile. WWFM is already at 14.

    WWFM got stuck in the low 20s for awhile. IDK – it might be a little faster, but just not seeing it as being THAT much faster, especially compared to some other pop songs out now.

  54. Indigo, hopefully he will get some more today.

    I hope that today will be a good add day for Danny. I am glad to see that his single is now a Top 30 Country song. :)

  55. Three more stations in Tuscon, Seattle and Des Moines have just added Danny’s song, so far six stations have added Danny’s song this week.

  56. sr4mjc:
    03/15/2010 at 9:11 am
    WWFM got an early Top 40 add this morning, #4 market, San Francisco. I was wondering if they were going to add or not. 2 HAC and 1 AC this week so far.

    Come on DC!! (fingers crossed) – but I’m still not holding my breath :-(

  57. Come on DC!! (fingers crossed) – but I’m still not holding my breath

    We know DC takes forever to add…

  58. Come on DC!! (fingers crossed) – but I’m still not holding my breath :-(

    The HAC DC station didn’t add this week even though they played i 7 times last week. We’re not expecting the top40 to add either…

  59. Come on DC!! (fingers crossed) – but I’m still not holding my breath :-(

    Well, WRQX-FM is showing 7 spins last week for WWFM, so it’s possible they’ll add this week.

    There is one Cumulus HAC station with 8 spins, but none on other so hard to tell if they’ll add this week or not.

  60. Well, WRQX-FM is showing 7 spins last week for WWFM, so it’s possible they’ll add this week.

    They didn’t add, or so I have been told…

  61. Congratulations, Kris, for the great numbers! Love to read the twitter updates to see how many people are playing his songs and discovering Kris and his music. It’s great to see comments like, “As of last night, I’m a huge fan…” He’s doing what I knew he would do, what he did on AI, slowly broadening his fanbase and these numbers and comments prove it. I can’t help but be proud to be part of the group that has supported him since he was in the top 5 on AI. I know there are probably some of you who were on board before then, but I put up a fight before he reeled me in. Perhaps that’s why it makes me smile to know he’s working his magic on others as well, a magic even more special because it is so natural and unassuming. I’m praying his words for him from SMAYA – “Vanity is sure to come, and I don’t want to be undone.” He does need to remain humble, but that doesn’t mean we have to be. YEA!! GO KRIS!!

  62. What makes LLWD run up the pop chart to number 10, even more incredible, is the fact that 5 of the top 10 markets have yet to add it. Chicago played it 15 times last week. I am hoping for a add there, but 2 LA stations, Houston and San Francisco have only 3 spins among them. I say way to go Kris.

    As for the next single I say BWCU but my 13 year old son likes Can’t Stay Away.

  63. Congratulations, Kris! I see Kris going #3 or #2 on HAC. NYN has taken the top spot and HSS and HG are losing spins. If LLWD keeps getting spin increases and HSS and HG continue to slow down, it looks feasible. Hard to tell on TOP 40, Carry On continues to gain spins. It seems close to impossible to move up, but this song has given us one surprise after another. Nevertheless, TOP 10 is a terrific gift, an amazing milestone.

    Continued success is dependent on great songs, hard work, and radio airplay. To quote Jordin Sparks, “one step at a time.” Long term success is not achieved in a day. I love Cook and Daughtry and Clarkson, but this is the first time, I genuinely don’t find the Idol association with a contestant cringe-inducing. Kris is so low-key about and is grateful for it, understands its value, but knows for him its all about the music that American Idol actually comes across cool.

    A few of this year’s contestants might be able to fuel that sentiment — Bowersox, Siobhan …

  64. Mary102:
    03/15/2010 at 9:18 am

    jpfan – is it really moving up that quickly, though? IDK – I haven’t compared it to other songs, so can’t tell, but it seems to be moving up comparably to LLWD, as in, not that much faster or slower. And on HAC it seems slightly slower, but still moving up, so fingers crossed it follows some path similar to LLWD on that front too.

    WWFM has had 121 days of radio play so far.
    After 121 days, LLWD was #21 on pop and #10 on HAC

  65. “As for the next single I say BWCU but my 13 year old son likes Can’t Stay Away” — Cauri24

    My 13 year old daughter loves it as well. She’s also been singing Justin Beiber’s Baby (?) and Ke$sha’s Blah Blah Blah (the lyrics are ridiculous) over and over much to my chagrin. Can’t Stay Away seems “older” to me, but it’s one of her favorites.

  66. What makes LLWD run up the pop chart to number 10, even more incredible, is the fact that 5 of the top 10 markets have yet to add it. Chicago played it 15 times last week. I am hoping for a add there, but 2 LA stations, Houston and San Francisco have only 3 spins among them. I say way to go Kris.

    So true – while the song apparently doesn’t seem to fit with what is played in LA, the missing Chicago and San Francisco spins are more surprising to me.

  67. WWFM has had 121 days of radio play so far.
    After 121 days, LLWD was #21 on pop and #10 on HAC

    Not that I don’t think WWFM isn’t moving fast, but chart position doesn’t tell the whole story, and is not a good way to compare songs. We would have to compare the total number of spins to see if they are moving at the same rate, since chart position depends on what the songs around them are doing. IMHO, WWFM hasn’t had as much competition as LLWD, which was released around the same time as a number of singles from established artists. I know that when WWFM broke into the top 40, it had a lot fewer spins than LLWD had when it reached that goal. The same thing happened when it reached the top 20. And, WWFM climb into the top ten is going to be helped a lot by having at least five or six songs in front of it that are either peaking or losing spins, and not a lot of threats coming up behind it.

  68. WWFM has had 121 days of radio play so far.
    After 121 days, LLWD was #21 on pop and #10 on HAC

    I knew someone (who was less lazy than me – lol) would come up with the exact numbers. My sense was, yes, it was faster than LLWD on Top 40, but not as fast on HAC. For some reason WWFM did take off much quicker on Top 40 than HAC, even from the beginning.

  69. I guess the final number for Crush is 1.9 official. So if LLWD is still selling in the Top 100 dls in 5 months, it has a shot.

    I think LLWD will end up around 1.5M but that’s just a guess.

    I think LLWD should make over 1.5 million, but whether it can overtake Crush and reach 2 million will depend on his second single. I remember Jordin’s Tattoo was given a boost in sales when No Air was released, and I suspect No Air probably gave Tattoo more than half a million in extra sales and helped push it towards double platinum status. Crush would have easily gone double platinum if Archie’s second single had been a hit. But the second single flopped, and that killed his album sales as well. In contrast No Air probably added nearly half a million to Jordin’s album sales.

    I don’t think Kris’ second single can be anywhere the huge hit that No Air was, but it’ll be very good to him that if it can do as well as LLWD. I can easily see his album going gold and perhaps LLWD going double platinum if that happens. They’d better choose the right one for the next single.

    As for Allison, I think they made too many mistake in the single choices. I do think her album is one of the better ones of all Idol alums, so it is kinda sad that it is not doing well. If Scars doesn’t pick up in a month or two, then they should just give her a couple of years to mature as an artist before trying for a second album.

  70. IMHO, WWFM hasn’t had as much competition as LLWD, which was released around the same time as a number of singles from established artists. I know that when WWFM broke into the top 40, it had a lot fewer spins than LLWD had when it reached that goal. The same thing happened when it reached the top 20. And, WWFM climb into the top ten is going to be helped a lot by having at least five or six songs in front of it that are either peaking or losing spins, and not a lot of threats coming up behind it.

    I’m sure it can’t be over-simplified to that extent. Both had competition, and I don’t see how you can conceivably, quantitativly say that WWFM had it “easier” than LLWD – particularly over a long period of time, and particularly since both songs are out DURING THE SAME TIME! There was nothing easy about either song and its path to doing well.

    Is there any chance of just giving these guys their due? LLWD is ahead of WWFM, yet we have to belittle WWFM’s rise on the charts? IDGI.

  71. Just wondering if LLWD might have been slightly more affected by the slowing in November than WWFM. Though conversely, you could say that WWFM was more affected by a slowing of adds at the end of Nov, so maybe it’s a wash.

    I personally think WWFM was more affected by the freeze. With the earlier release, LLWD was at a pretty high place on the charts, and didn’t lose as much momentum because of its position before the freeze. WWFM, otoh, was just starting to gain a lot of momentum early on when the charts froze.

  72. Kirsten could you post the i-tunes checkpoint like every monday please? Or somebody else? thank you!

  73. Both had competition, and I don’t see how you can conceivably, quantitativly say that WWFM had it “easier” than LLWD – particularly over a long period of time, and particularly since both songs are out DURING THE SAME TIME!

    I agree. I think LLWD faced more competition when it was first out, but both songs have benefitted significantly from the weak competition in the past couple of months.

  74. As for Allison, I think they made too many mistake in the single choices. I do think her album is one of the better ones of all Idol alums, so it is kinda sad that it is not doing well. If Scars doesn’t pick up in a month or two, then they should just give her a couple of years to mature as an artist before trying for a second album

    I just don’t understand what is going on with Allison. As bad a choice as FIBOU was for a single, I actually think Scars might be worse. FIBOU has an undeniable hook sound to it, Scars not so much.

  75. Congrats to all the Idols for their current success on the radio charts! Not going to worry about what sold more or moved up the charts faster. Yay for Kris reaching 3 milestones! LLWD really is the little song that could (I think I can, I think I can, I know I can…). It looks like it’s peaked on the Pop chart, but considering we’ve said this a few times before, I wouldn’t b stunned if it ended up moving up another spot or two before it starts to drop. Although that’s far more likely to happen on the Hot AC chart.

    Jive really needs to at least announce an add date for the 2nd single (which I’m assuming will be either BWCU or AWM) already, though!

  76. Kirsten could you post the i-tunes checkpoint like every monday please? Or somebody else? thank you!

    WWFM #19
    LLWD # 22
    LAY #48
    TH #58

    I only have access to top 100…..

  77. I vote for “Alright With Me” for the new single, because it has had so much promo with the Ford commercials. I know some people think it is more of a summer song, but hey, it’s been a long, cold winter and I for one am ready for something summery.

  78. I don’t know where they sat on iTunes charts last Monday, but here’s where they sit this morning:

    #19 WWFM
    #23 LLWD
    #48 Life After You
    #58 Temporary Home
    #102 Cowboy Casanova
    #126 Already Gone
    #185 MBD
    #270 No Surprise
    #274 LIB
    #312 Before He Cheats
    #316 Battlefield
    #338 My Life Would Suck Without You
    #459 All-American Girl
    #494 Breakaway
    #516 FYE
    #619 Home
    #628 CBTM
    #685 Jesus Take the Wheel
    #758 No Air
    #784 Since U Been Gone
    #824 Last Name
    #860 You Don’t Know Me (Matt Giraud/Anna Wilson duet)
    #908 Just a Dream

  79. Both had competition, and I don’t see how you can conceivably, quantitativly say that WWFM had it “easier” than LLWD – particularly over a long period of time, and particularly since both songs are out DURING THE SAME TIME!

    My opinion is based on what other songs were doing at the time of LLWD and WWFM’s runs. Yes, both have benefited from songs falling, every song needs to have a combination of both it’s own spins increasing while other songs decrease in spins, in order to move up. But, considering how many spins LLWD needed in order to meet certain milestones, breaking into the top 40 and the top 20, in comparison to the number of spins that WWFM needed, the competition at the time for LLWD was rougher.

    As others have said, it doesn’t really matter, and every song has to rely on getting played as well as luck in order to move up the chart.

  80. #860 You Don’t Know Me

    And the strangeness for Allison continues – isn’t this her only song in the top 1000?

  81. FYI… The Fredricksburg, VA station, 101.5 started playing WWFM about 2 months ago. I don’t know what the deal is with 99.5 in DC.

  82. anovich

    You Don’t Know Me is NOT an Allison song — it is the duet that Matt did with Anna Wilson

  83. carol522:
    03/15/2010 at 11:09 am
    FYI… The Fredricksburg, VA station, 101.5 started playing WWFM about 2 months ago. I don’t know what the deal is with 99.5 in DC.

    The deal is probably that they have a rotation of about 5 songs at any given moment ;-)

  84. girlygirl:
    03/15/2010 at 11:22 am
    anovich

    You Don’t Know Me is NOT an Allison song — it is the duet that Matt did with Anna Wilson

    Thanks. Allison has a song with the same name on her album.

  85. I don’t know where they sat on iTunes charts last Monday, but here’s where they sit this morning:

    #19 WWFM
    #23 LLWD

    Last Monday LLWD was #23 and WWFM was #24 according to IDF.

  86. Sony_Music @oriharakaoru He is now certified platinum in Canada! We’ll add an announcement on the site today!

    Adam is Platinum in Canada for FYE!

  87. Yay for LLWD–3 milestones this week (2 of them HUGE!)!! And #23 on itunes. That should mean another week of ~57K in sales–so yay to that, too. So happy for and proud of Kris!!

    I do not envy the folks at JIVE in selecting a second single. That is a tough job–so much pressure to choose correctly. YIKES! I wonder how much input Kris has into the decision?

    Congrats to the other Idols as well, especially Adam for the #1 HAC spot in Canada. Good job!

  88. Sony_Music @oriharakaoru He is now certified platinum in Canada! We’ll add an announcement on the site today!

    Adam is Platinum in Canada for FYE!

    Fantastic!

  89. Question — does anyone know why sony/rca has gone ahead and relatively quickly had FYE certified gold and/or platinum in foreign countries like Canada and Singapore, but not in the US? I don’t think sony/jive has had LLWD certified either gold or platinum in the US yet either. Why the wait? Why do it in some countries and not others?

  90. Another great add day for Danny Gokey; he’s up to 10 adds so far =)

  91. Question — does anyone know why sony/rca has gone ahead and relatively quickly had FYE certified gold and/or platinum in foreign countries like Canada and Singapore, but not in the US? I don’t think sony/jive has had LLWD certified either gold or platinum in the US yet either. Why the wait? Why do it in some countries and not others?

    Announcement when Adam returns to Idol? i dunno…

  92. MMB

    Maybe because it’s easier to confirm selling the few thousand copies it takes to go platinum in those countries than it is to confirm the sales numbers in the US? It takes what, 20-30K (I’m not sure of the actual total needed) to go platinum in Canada or Singapore, as opposed to 1 million in the US. Maybe the RIAA rules are stricter regarding certifying US sales?

    Just guessing here…

  93. I think sometimes on the certifications, if they think something is going to go much higher (platinum), they wait for the higher level and then get both (gold and platinum). I think this happened with David Cook. It seems like they do a bunch in the U.S. at once, not sure why. Why they bother in foreign countries where the threshhold is so much smaller, I don’t know.

  94. NOW IN: 54.02%

    LW TW artist / album label power index
    — 1 LUDACRIS DTP/DEF JAM/IDJ 79,083
    BATTLE OF THE SEXES
    1 2 LADY ANTEBELLUM CAPITOL NASHVILLE/EMI 77,847
    NEED YOU NOW
    — 3 GARY ALLAN MCA NASHVILLE 37,099
    GET OFF ON THE PAIN
    — 4 JIMI HENDRIX EXPERIENCE LEGACY 27,548
    VALLEYS OF NEPTUNE
    8 5 BLACK EYED PEAS INTERSCOPE 27,085
    E.N.D. (ENERGY NEVER DIES)
    — 6 GORILLAZ VIRGIN/EMI 26,929
    PLASTIC BEACH
    2 7 SADE EPIC 25,747
    SOLDIER OF LOVE
    3 8 BLAKE SHELTON WARNER BROS. NASHVILLE 22,271
    HILLBILLY BONE
    7 9 LADY GAGA INTERSCOPE 20,812
    FAME
    15 10 JUSTIN BIEBER ISLAND/IDJMG 20,234
    MY WORLD
    19 11 ZAC BROWN BAND ATLANTIC 16,557
    FOUNDATION
    10 12 EASTON CORBIN MERCURY 15,954
    EASTON CORBIN
    14 13 KE$HA KEMOSABE/RCA/RMG 15,591
    ANIMAL
    4 14 DANNY GOKEY 19/RCA NASHVILLE 14,249
    MY BEST DAYS

    28 15 CARRIE UNDERWOOD 19/ARISTA NASHVILLE 12,656
    PLAY ON
    23 16 RIHANNA DEF JAM/IDJ 12,640
    RATED R
    29 17 MARY J. BLIGE GEFFEN 11,851
    STRONGER WITH EACH TEAR
    30 18 ALVIN & THE CHIPMUNKS RHINO 11,565
    THE SQUEAKQUEL
    24 19 TREY SONGZ ATLANTIC 11,347
    READY
    16 20 LADY GAGA INTERSCOPE 10,955
    FAME MONSTER (EP)
    20 21 ALICIA KEYS J RECORDS/RMG 10,837
    ELEMENT OF FREEDOM
    22 22 JAHEIM ATLANTIC 10,594
    ANOTHER ROUND
    12 23 LIL WAYNE CASH MONEY/UNIV MOTOWN 10,289
    REBIRTH
    5 24 ALMOST ALICE BUENA VISTA 9,619
    VARIOUS ARTISTS
    17 25 SUSAN BOYLE COLUMBIA 9,518
    I DREAMED A DREAM

    9 26 JASON DERULO BELUGA HGTS/WARNER BROS. 9,434
    JASON DERULO
    26 27 MICHAEL BUBLE REPRISE 9,298
    CRAZY LOVE
    33 28 SELENA GOMEZ & THE SCENE HOLLYWOOD 9,166
    KISS & TELL
    18 29 TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 9,066
    FEARLESS
    34 30 LADY ANTEBELLUM CAPITOL NASHVILLE/EMI 8,288
    LADY ANTEBELLUM
    38 31 MELANIE FIONA SRC/UNIVERSAL MOTOWN 8,195
    THE BRIDGE
    40 32 KIDZ BOP KIDS RAZOR & TIE 7,901
    KIDZ BOP 17
    37 33 JASON ALDEAN BROKEN BOW 7,791
    WIDE OPEN
    21 34 JOSH TURNER MCA NASHVILLE 7,187
    HAYWIRE
    11 35 RAHEEM DEVAUGHN JIVE/JLG 7,008
    LOVE & WAR
    27 36 CRAZY HEART NEW WEST RECORDS 6,940
    SOUNDTRACK
    36 37 NOW THAT’S WHAT I CALL MUSIC SONY MUSIC 6,920
    NOW 32
    32 38 YOUNG MONEY CASH MONEY/UNIV MOTOWN 6,643
    WE ARE YOUNG MONEY
    44 39 NICKELBACK ROADRUNNER 5,872
    DARK HORSE
    — 40 TRAIN COLUMBIA 5,767
    SAVE ME SAN FRANCISCO
    39 41 OWL CITY UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 5,605
    OCEAN EYES
    — 42 ROBIN THICKE STAR TRAK/INTERSCOPE 5,247
    SEX THERAPY
    — 43 BROKEN BELLS COLUMBIA 5,015
    BROKEN BELLS
    50 44 MICHAEL JACKSON EPIC 4,611
    NUMBER ONES
    45 45 P!NK LAFACE/JLG 4,541
    FUNHOUSE
    — 46 DEMON HUNTER SOLIDSTATE 4,473
    WORLD IS A THORN
    — 47 TWILIGHT SAGA: NEW MOON CHOP SHOP/ATLANTIC 4,239
    SOUNDTRACK
    35 48 DAUGHTRY 19/RCA/RMG 3,544
    LEAVE THIS TOWN

    42 49 JOHN MAYER COLUMBIA 3,344
    BATTLE STUDIES
    49 50 GUCCI MANE WARNER BROS. 3,301
    STATE VS. RADRIC DAVIS

  95. Girlygirl, I thought Canada was 50,000 units, but I forget if that’s gold or platinum. I could be wrong. I know Cook hit gold or platinum there.

  96. Canada is 40k gold/80k platinum. Maybe they should have waited on Singapore with only 6k/12k. Japan is 100k/250k for future reference.

  97. t takes what, 20-30K (I’m not sure of the actual total needed) to go platinum in Canada or Singapore, as opposed to 1 million in the US. Maybe the RIAA rules are stricter regarding certifying US sales?

    Just guessing here…

    I think Canada is 80,000 or thereabouts … But, yeah, the number is *much* lower. Honestly, I doubt that has much to do with it, though, since I don’t imagine the reporting system is much different in big countries than in small ones. I think it probably has more to do with a) how much they want to use a certain certification in promotion in some way and b) whether they figure that the next level of certification is so close that they might as well wait for it.

  98. Yeah, it was just a guess. IDK why Sony is waiting on certifying either Kris or Adam in the U.S. I did read that it costs the labels money to do this. Anyone know how much $$$ it costs to certify an album or song gold or platinum?

  99. Meanwhile, can anyone tell me how to find out where LLWD is on the Canadian Top 40 and Hot AC charts? Someone on twitter asked me this but I don’ know where to find those official charts. Thanks!

  100. Danny’s got 10 adds already this week — and only 3 of them are automatic adds. Kelly’s got 8 new adds so far this week (5 Hot AC, 3 Top 40) Adam’s got 5 new adds (3 Hot AC, 1 Top 40, 1 AC). No new US adds for Kris, although he did pick up another add in Canada. No new adds for Allison.

  101. HDD album sales prediction chart – 54.02% reporting…

    4 14 DANNY GOKEY 19/RCA NASHVILLE 14,249 MY BEST DAYS

    28 15 CARRIE UNDERWOOD 19/ARISTA NASHVILLE 12,656 PLAY ON

    35 48 DAUGHTRY 19/RCA/RMG 3,544 LEAVE THIS TOWN

    No Adam or Kris in the Top 50

  102. Sony must be proud of Adam. They tweeted the vids of Adam arriving at the airport in Japan with a “WOW” and now they are quick to let us know he went plat. in Canada. Rumor from radio djs in japan say he has hit gold already with pre-sales. We won’t know that for a week or two-not sure how they know it now unless Sony has told them. But, anyway,so proud of ADAM!

  103. Why they bother in foreign countries where the threshhold is so much smaller, I don’t know.

    I think they have to certify albums in the countries that might meet the threshold so that the IFPI has something on which to base their global figures. Every bit helps when one wants to make the global best sellers list. And it does make for good PR to be certified in mulitple countries.

  104. No new adds for Allison.

    Crap. Poor Allison. Looks like her need for a relaunch a few years from now when she can be sold as an intense 20-something rock-girl increases.

    Thanks for reporting.

  105. girlygirl, LLWD as of March 11 was 47 on the top 100 cdn chart (airplay). Was 53 the week before

  106. rockstarweekly @adamlambert – Adam Lambert Certified Platinum in Canada – http://bit.ly/9u6Vjg
    2 minutes ago via Echofon

    This article says he is Plat. in Canada with well OVER 100K in sales. Looks like he didn’t just skim by.

  107. I don’t think labels waste money on single certifications. Nowadays almost every song with enough radioplay goes platinum. The whole top ten on i-tunes are selling 100000+ every week, so the big labels like sony music, universal, warner music or EMI have platinum singles by their artists almost every week.

  108. I wonder if he’s loyal to a certain brand of glitter. I’m guessing that is a good stock bet before the tour.

  109. So, 100,000 in album sales in Canada and potentially another 100,000 (in presales) in Japan. Impressive.

    Can’t wait to see how touring in the US impacts Adam’s album sales here. I think increased sales from touring and a nice bump from his Idol appearance will cause him to go platinum in the US sometime in the Fall of 2010.

  110. I am glad that with HDD reporting 54% of sales in, Danny is at #14. I think that he will end up around #14/#15 on the chart when the final sales numbers come in. I wonder what places have reported so far, because I see that Almost Alice is at #24 with 9,619 sales in.

    Almost Alice was predicted to sell between 35,000-40,000 albums last week, so I do believe that album will move up when the rest of the updates come in. Maybe the Itunes update hasn’t been factored in yet, Almost Alice was pretty high on that last week.

  111. LaurelG:
    03/15/2010 at 1:48 pm
    “So, 100,000 in album sales in Canada and potentially another 100,000 (in presales) in Japan. Impressive.”

    That’s great news, Adam and RCA have to be very happy with that news. The great thing about Japan if it’s true, he has over 100,000 in presales, imagine the number of people actually going to the stores to buy a copy that they can actually hold in their hands. He could end up next week with more than 200,000 album sold.

  112. adds aren’t great today for WWFM, I was hoping for some HAC. Maybe autoadds later.

  113. No Adam or Kris in the Top 50

    Darn it. But good on Gokey for sustaining his sales pretty well, thus far.

    Boo also to no adds for Allison, but not terribly surprised. Much as I like the song, Scars is not a song I would have chosen to go to radio, so not surprised it’s not doing well. I would have chosen Don’t Waste The Pretty, or possibly D is for Dangerous, though maybe the label would have thought it was too FIBOU and given how poorly FIBOU did, wanted to take Allison in a really different direction. Hence Scars. But still, not a great choice. sigh. So frustrating given how talented I think Allison is and that her album seems pretty strong, given it’s out of the idol machine and it’s time constraints.

  114. 4 JIMI HENDRIX EXPERIENCE LEGACY 27,548
    VALLEYS OF NEPTUNE

    ot, but it does a heart good to see strong sales for this cd…picked it up over the weekend, been playing it steadily… legends never really die, and in jimi’s case, it’s nice to see another generation of folks experiencing real, bonafide genius… rock on jimi.

  115. girlygirl
    Well they should, it’ll a be nice memory for Kris, i’m just not sure that the label cares enough (i also don’t think that RCA cares that much Adam’s album is gold, i mean they have Christina, Daughtry, Kelly, Kings of Leon, Kesha – it’s not that GREAT of achievement to have a gold album on that label)…it doesn’t matter anyway,i think both guys are doing great and their fans should be happy.It could have been much worse…poor Allison.sigh

  116. good news for all, but like many, i wish allison was fairing better. maybe it is the type of songs she is releasing, too young for her raspy voice or maybe she’s not connecting with audiences. whatever the reason, i fear that if she doesnt drop a hot single asap, her label will no longer invest in her career.

  117. I just picked up Allison’s cd this weekend and there are much better songs than FIBOU and Scars. There is something about Don’t Waste the Pretty that reminds me of another song, but it won’t come to me. But she’s so talented, maybe in a few years..

  118. girlygirl:
    03/15/2010 at 12:44 pm

    Yeah, it was just a guess. IDK why Sony is waiting on certifying either Kris or Adam in the U.S. I did read that it costs the labels money to do this. Anyone know how much $$$ it costs to certify an album or song gold or platinum?

    US certification audits are slow — and there is an audit fee but it is only $350 for RIAA member companies. Sony Music Entertainment is a member.

    ETA: Any album hitting gold in this market is a big deal. They will certify them — often they wait to certify multiple sales threshhold at one time — Gold+Platinum for a single is pretty typical.

  119. Yea! That’s so awesome about the platinum certification in Canada! I just love how well accepted he’s been in other parts of the world! Very very cool :-)

    Lots of good news all around for many of the idols :-)

  120. for those wanting information about the australian sales for adam during his promo tour…

    Monday, March 15, 2010

    ALBUMS : It’s the first Australian No.1 album for UK cartoon outfit Gorillaz. They debut in the No.1 position this week with new album ‘Plastic Beach’. Though it’s perhaps thanks to relatively low sales that they’ve got there. Just 7491 copies of ‘Plastic Beach’ were sold last week for the No.1 debut.
    As with the singles chart, it’s the No.2 position that’s closest this week – Mumford & Sons back in the No.2 position sold 5713 copies of ‘Sigh No More’ while k.d.Lang’s ‘Recollection’ was just two copies behind – bagging 5711 sales.
    Jason Derulo debuted in the No.4 position with 5008 sales and Susan Boyle drops to No.5 with ‘I Dreamed A Dream’ (4604 sales).
    Adam Lambert’s album ‘For Your Entertainment’ debuts in the No.18 position following his promo tour with 1781 sales, Airborne’s new album ‘No Guts, No Glory’ debuts at No.19 with 1713 sales and Michael Buble’s self-titled album moves up 14 places to No.25 (1261 sales).

    http://auspop.blogspot.com/2010/03/chart-watch_15.html

    official aria chart
    http://www.ariacharts.com.au/

  121. I guess it will take a while or a miracle for Gold at 35k in Australia!

    Has anyone heard of the Australian Idol runner up Jessica Mauboy? Her cd is not bad! She’s got a pretty good voice.

  122. I read somewhere that Adam’s, Kris’s and Allison’s albums were all being released in Japan on the same day (March 10). Anyone know if this turned out to be the case. And, if so, anyone know where we would be able to track all three of their sales in Japan?

    Thanks

  123. That was really low (the Australian CD sales)! I thought #18 on the album sellers chart was pretty decent but albums don’t seem to sell much in Australia. Don’t they have a large population?

  124. Pleased to see Danny at #30 on country radio charts plus getting 11 radio adds today isn’t bad either. Looks like his album could stay in the top 15 on Billboard this week as well. All in all, Danny seems to be doing pretty good so far.

  125. 6 HAC adds for WWFM today, not bad. No Cumulus, but they are smaller stations for AI on HAC. Denver, San Fran and Minneapolis are pretty big.

  126. Adam picked up 8 adds today. 6 hac 1 ac 1 top 40. I did nor see any hac or ac for alli or Kris but I might have missed them. Kelly got a bunch of hac Adds as well I’m sure someone else can give more complete recap incl country adds

  127. That was really low (the Australian CD sales)! I thought #18 on the album sellers chart was pretty decent but albums don’t seem to sell much in Australia. Don’t they have a large population?

    Australia has roughly 20million or so people, America roughly 300million – or about 15 times as many. Therefore, if you take that as a proportion, Australia’s gold certification of 35k equates to 525k in the USA, which is just a little over the current gold certification standard. So when you think about it, sales figure of 7k for a number 1 album in Australia isn’t bad, it’s roughly 105k in the USA.

    Has anyone heard of the Australian Idol runner up Jessica Mauboy? Her cd is not bad! She’s got a pretty good voice.

    Jess is great! She could be a big star in the States, her sound would go down well on radio. Plus she’s very cute…

  128. Some populations for comparison:

    Singapore: 5 million
    Australia: 21 million
    Canada: 33 million
    UK: 61 million (England, Scotland, Wales)
    Japan: 127 million
    US: 307 million

    So selling 2000 in Australia is like selling 30,000 in the US.

  129. Japan, England and Germany are the only countries with significant music sales. All the rest are pretty small change for Western artists. I’m betting Adam’s first tour will include Canadian casinos (similiar to Cook). Seems like a no brainer.

  130. Kris got 2 US adds today — one AC, one Christian AC. Will be interesting to see if he gets any Top 40 adds tomorrow, since LLWD is now Top 10. There are lots of stations that haven’t added it yet, although maybe the majority of those stations are more rhythmic-leaning?

  131. Just wanted to add my congrats to Kris for having milestones for LLWD on 3 charts.
    Thanks to everyone on here that continually gives us updated information. I really appreciate it.

    Oh & about the small amount of sales for Australia! That’s why Australian artists concentrate on Britain , Germany & Japan & many have done well there. Its often too hard to break into the US market , so there are many great Aussie artists who’ve done well in Europe but Americans wouldn’t know who they are!
    [ Its funny that we don’t seem to have the same problem with our actors being successful in the US though!!]

  132. wonder if this hints at what the 2nd single will be? BWCU is on this mediabase list for Kris — AWM is not…

    I saw Alrigh With Me on there…as well as the rest of Kris’s album

  133. Japan, England and Germany are the only countries with significant music sales. All the rest are pretty small change for Western artists. I’m betting Adam’s first tour will include Canadian casinos (similiar to Cook). Seems like a no brainer.

    China’s not bad either, but I don’t know if outside acts can break in there.

  134. Anovich

    Huh that’s weird…it wasn’t there when I clicked on it before.

    Never mind then!

  135. Going off this current Hot AC chart, LLWD has a legit shot of going as high as #2 if it can keep its spin count steady.

    2 1 LADY ANTEBELLUM Need You Now 4163 3821 342 22.238
    1 2 TRAIN Hey, Soul Sister 4103 4192 -89 21.796
    3 3 LIFEHOUSE Halfway Gone 3845 3797 48 19.453
    4 4 JOHN MAYER Heartbreak Warfare 3609 3625 -16 18.13
    6 5 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dyin… 3575 3295 280 18.662

  136. For what it is worth, Street Pulse is projecting a 52% drop in album sales for Danny, a 20% drop for Adam and a 15% drop for Kris

    Daughtry Leave This Town SBME/ RCA +6.2
    Carrie Underwood Play On SBME/ Sbmg Nashville -6.0
    Kris Allen Kris Allen Sbmg/ Jive -15.4
    Adam Lambert FYE SBME/ RCA -20.1
    Danny Gokey My Best Days SBME/ Sbmg Nashville -52.1

  137. 52% drop in sales for Danny means they are expecting him to sell close to 30,000 which is pretty good. I think 50% is quite normal for 2d week. Does anyone remember how much % drop Kris, Adam and Allison had after their first week?

  138. Does anyone remember how much % drop Kris, Adam and Allison had after their first week?

    I remember Adam had 70% drop; but he had Black Friday in his first week sales, so that contributed a lot to the big drop. Don’t remember Kris or Allison’s figures, but I think 50-60% drop is normal for a new artist.

    Some of Danny’s other songs off his album have charted the past 2 weeks:

    360 83 DANNY GOKEY Like That’s A Bad Thing 21 1 20 0.087 0.008 0.079

    121 99 DANNY GOKEY I Will Not Say Goodbye 9 3 6 0.079 0.055 0.024

    137 112 DANNY GOKEY I Still Believe 8 2 6 0.041 0.027 0.014

  139. Late to the party, but YAY for Kris reaching 3 milestones this week!!! I am so excited for him and proud of the success of LLWD.

  140. My understanding is that the number of sold items needed for gold and platinum designation is based upon the population of each country. Can anyone verify that?

  141. Glad to see Danny got 11 new adds including several in the top 20 market rankings, and that sales of his album seem to really be holding up nicely with the second week projection. (Despite all the ongoing reports of limited or sold-out supplies in the brick & mortar stores, boo.)

  142. I have a question about RECURRENCY. If Kris’s song, LLWD, is still showing signs of life and increased airplay on the charts, does it go “recurrent” automatically simply because it’s reached recurrency status?

    Does that mean it loses its #5 and #10 spots? I believe I read somewhere that it goes recurrent in a couple of weeks? Is that correct?

    Sorry, terminology newbie here! Thanks in advance for any explanations!

  143. LLWD will only go recurrent when it drops below 20 on the Pop chart. Songs have to be on the chart for a certain number of weeks before they go recurrent and I’m sure LLWD meets the requirement. No song in the top 20 can go recurrent though.

    Okay, anyone have the link to the adds board. I’ve managed to lose it again. :)

  144. I don’t know what ‘The Hits Chart’ Encompasses in Canada but it puts LLWD at #47, and WWFM at #2 They don’t have spins listed.

    http://jam.canoe.ca/Music/Charts/BDS_1.html

    All Access has Kris on the Canada Top 40 at #34. With an impressive gain of 2 whole spins (yay Canada – you suck – just sayin’) (I say that with love and frustration as a Kris fan – but at least I’m now hearing it on the radio.. baby steps indeed)

    35 33 TIMBALAND If We Ever Meet Agai… 312 283 29 2.122
    32 34 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dyin… 297 295 2 1.916
    38 35 MELANIE FIONA It Kills Me 284 271 13 1.21

    and they have Adam up at #6

    5 5 BLACK EYED PEAS Imma Be 970 945 25 5.468
    7 6 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 937 872 65 7.134
    6 7 KE$HA F/3OH!3 Blah Blah Blah 908 907 1 5.42

  145. My understanding is that the number of sold items needed for goldand platinum designation is based upon the population of each country. Can anyone verify that?

    It’s based only very roughly on population, and it takes into account the overall sales in each individual country. UK for example has roughly one-fifth of the population of US, but overall album sales per head of the population is higher than the US (UK is the highest in the world) –
    http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/content_display/industry/e3ia3e3c4472acac5d99e73a44482ec9bde

    so the certification threshold may be higher than the one-fifth of US that you might expect. A gold album in UK is 100K which is a fifth of US, but for platinum album it’s 300K which would be the equivalent of 1.5 million units in the US.

    For singles the situation is quite different – it’s 400K for gold in UK (that’s equivalent to 2 million in US) and 600K for platinum (equivalent of 3 million in US). The reason is that single sales in the UK have always been much better than the US in the past, but recently singles sales have increased considerably in the US, so things are in a state of flux. Physical singles sales are now falling very fast in the UK while digital sales are still rising, and it’ll probably take a few more years before things settle down.

    China’s not bad either, but I don’t know if outside acts can break in there.

    It’s both true and untrue about China’s music sales not being bad – people do buy them, but piracy is rife like most of Far East, so very little money actually goes to the record companies. I remember reading some ridiculous numbers about total revenue from music sales in China a few years ago – it’s something like one-twentieth that of UK from a population that’s 20 times higher (I may have misremembered the exact number but you get the idea). Perhaps things have changed in the last few years but I think probably not by much.

  146. It’s really great that LLWD went this far. Triple yay for the trio of milestones. Love that song! In retrospect he couldn’t have started with a better album’s song in my opinion. A 2nd single s/b released as soon as LLWD starts going down a bit on the charts. I think AWM might be more successful than BWCU as a second single because it’s very catchy and I feel spring is a good season to release it

    Congratulations Kris ! You deserve all this success.
    There are so many songs that in my opinion can be released as a single. BWCU is a great song w/ or w/o the band. The Truth is one of my favorites but it is not Kris’ co-write. Red Guitar is soooo pretty, especially after watching Kris and Andrew did it acoustically , so incredible. Let It Rain, sooo good but I don’t know why Kris does not sing that one live.
    But, I’m voting for AWM for the next single. By the time it is released and goes up the chart, it will be summer and so perfect for all the sing-a-long at his concert.
    I hope that JIVE does not wait too long to announce the next single. AI season 9 final is starting this week.

  147. Masieta: I’m praying his words for him from SMAYA – “Vanity is sure to come, and I don’t want to be undone.” He does need to remain humble, but that doesn’t mean we have to be. YEA!! GO KRIS!!

    I like that. It is weird that I’m the one that feel hurt when somebody dissing him, or feel happy and proud when he got some praises. I never really follow somebody this closely after AI before, so all these are new and exciting and nerve racking at the same time.

  148. Not to put down Adam’s international success because he is doing well. But I’d hold off on calling him a global superstar until he comes near Kelly’s numbers. For Breakaway her album went 6xplat in Australia, 5xplat in Canada, 7xplat in Ireland, 5xplat in the UK and of course 6xplat in the U.S.

    So I’d say Adam is doing well but superstar might be stretching it a bit. Of course, he just got started and should sell more. But I’ll wait until he does before I start using the word superstar.

  149. For Breakaway her album went

    That wasn’t her debut album was it? I thought it came later.

    How is her latest album doing internationally?

  150. Here are the daily spin updates from Kworb at Pulse.

    LLWD moved up to the #4 spot on HAC today, passing John Mayer (yay!). LLWD had the 2nd highest rolling 7 day upward move number on the Mediabase HAC Top 40 chart today – only Lady A who is #1 had a higher number – so there is a very real possibility that LLWD could reach #2 on HAC spin chart if this trend continues!

    WWFM was passed by Rihanna’s Rude Boy today, but there are other songs falling so it should regain its #14 spot tomorrow by passing Sexy Chick, with potential to keep rising.

    Published Reports

    POP:
    11 10 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dying 5778 5701 77 33.810
    -21 Spins
    -69 Bullet
    +0.027 AI

    HAC:
    6 4 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dying 3625 3328 297 18.916
    +50 Spins
    +17 Bullet
    +0.254 AI

    POP:
    15 15 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 5003 4702 301 28.895
    +40 Spins
    -15 Bullet
    +0.321 AI

    HAC:
    16 16 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 1743 1634 109 9.801
    +24 Spins
    -1 Bullet
    +0.124 AI

  151. I agree, JPfan, that it is premature to call Adam a superstar. I kind of look at it a little differently though, I think Adam will….can be…a great *super star* act…..putting on great shows…able to sing anything…dancing etc…..especially internationally. I think this is where he will shine…maybe not so much in the record selling arena but sold out venues as a performer. I think he is way different than most Idols in this regard…..just a thought…..

  152. HAC:
    6 4 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dying 3625 3328 297 18.916
    +50 Spins
    +17 Bullet
    +0.254 AI

    wow, that’s good news this morning!!

    I like that. It is weird that I’m the one that feel hurt when somebody dissing him, or feel happy and proud when he got some praises. I never really follow somebody this closely after AI before, so all these are new and exciting and nerve racking at the same time.

    same here ratna12, isn’t it time consuming also?!?

  153. According to America’s Music Charts (numbers from Mediabase), Jason Castro has NOT dropped off the HAC list. “Let’s Just Fall in Love Again” is following it’s usual pattern of up and down a few steps and is at #48, with 149 spins.

  154. I too wouldn’t go so far as to say that Adam Lambert is a global superstar. He certainly doesn’t have that title here in the U.S. and let’s face it – U.S. is what it is all about. I definitely see him doing much better in the international scene but the goal for people who start off in the international arena is to then make it big in the U.S. also. Right now, though he’s doing well with a Gold record sales, in retrospect it took him getting gold here in the U.S. about the same time as it took David Cook to sell platinum with David reaching gold in 4 weeks here. David also got gold in Canada shortly after his album released & I’m not sure where else it was released internationally. I am a huge Cook fan but I don’t consider him a superstar and shortly after winning, he achieved a platinum album & two platinum singles – a feat Adam has yet to achieve.

  155. Wish Danny came in higher; but that is par for the course for Idols. I believe Kris came in 64% down his second week and Adam was 74% down so Danny is right in there. Compared to a new country artist similar to himself (although Easton has a #2 hit on country radio right now; its been on the charts for 31 weeks)- Easton Corbin down 50%.

    There are a bunch of artists clustered around that mark; Billboard has him at #19 on the top 50, but that could change.

  156. I think it’s pretty standard for albums to drop 50-60% in the 2nd week out. All of the Season 8 Idols dropped a little more than what I would expect for a 2nd week, though. Now we wait to see if Danny follows more along Kris’s or Adam’s path in terms of how much sales drop in the coming weeks.

    I know people keep telling me that it’s not a sign of bad things to come in terms of album sales that Danny’s single isn’t really selling well — but I don’t know how it currently sitting at #229 on the iTunes chart could be considered a positive sign. That’s more than 200 spots below both Kris and Adam — and their singles have been out longer — a lot longer in Kris’s case. I just keep thinking Danny’s ingle should be selling a lot better than it is — it’s doing well on radio, supposedly and the video has been out for awhile. So I don’t quite get it…

  157. I know people keep telling me that it’s not a sign of bad things to come in terms of album sales that Danny’s single isn’t really selling well — but I don’t know how it currently sitting at #229 on the iTunes chart could be considered a positive sign. That’s more than 200 spots below both Kris and Adam — and their singles have been out longer — a lot longer in Kris’s case. I just keep thinking Danny’s ingle should be selling a lot better than it is — it’s doing well on radio, supposedly and the video has been out for awhile. So I don’t quite get it…

    MBD doesn’t have enough airplay to stop its fall down the charts. It will need twice as much to have any effect.
    But it has got 8 new adds this week, so it is making it’s way up the charts.

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