Monday Morning Mediabase Update – Mar 1-7

And the award goes to…Carrie Underwood. Carrie is the only idol to reach a new milestone this week, though a number came close. Carrie has managed to achieve yet another top 5 hit on the Country chart. The woman has become an institution.

Meanwhile, over on UAC, Ruben has returned to the top 15. Kelly Clarkson went recurrent on HAC.

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There were no changes on the top Idol in any of the formats, but there were some new peaks. Kris’s LLWD reached new peaks on Pop and AC, while Adam’s WWFM reached them on Pop, AC and HAC. Jason Casto has been up and down on the charts, but I think his song reached a new peak on HAC as well. Danny and Carrie have new peaks on Country.

Here are your Monday Morning Mediabase Updates for airplay as of 10:42 pm of 03/07/10 after the jump.

Adam Lambert:
“Whataya Want From Me”: ^16 HAC (19), ^16 Pop (18), ^37 AC (38)

Carrie Underwood:
“Cowboy Casanova” : 25 HAC (27)
“Temporary Home” : ^5 Country (8)

Danny Gokey:
“My Best Days are Ahead”: ^32 Country (34)

Daughtry:
“Life After You”: ^5 HAC (5), ^23 Pop (23)
“No Surprise”: ^6 AC (5)

Jason Castro:
“Let’s Just Fall in Love”: ^46 HAC (47)

Katharine McPhee:
“Had it All” : 25 AC (26)

Kellie Pickler:
“Didn’t You Know How Much I Loved You”: 21 Country (15)

Kelly Clarkson:
“Already Gone”: ^5 AC (5)

Kris Allen:
“Live Like We Are Dying”: ^6 HAC (6), ^11 Pop (13), ^22 AC (24)

Phil Stacey:
“Some Kind of Love”: 47 CAC (45)

Ruben Studdard:
“Don’t Make ‘Em Like…”: ^15 UAC (17), 44 Urban (43)

Note: Numbers indicate position on the chart while numbers in brackets indicate the position on the chart the previous week. The “^” (aka “a bullet”) indicates that a song gained spins since last week

Upcoming Add Dates:
Mar 8: HAC: Kelly Clarkson: “All I Ever Wanted”
Mar 9: Pop: Kelly Clarkson: “All I Ever Wanted”
Mar 22: Country: Bucky Covington: “A Father’s Love”

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  1. iTunes Checkpoint (Top 300)
    23 Kris Allen “Live Like We’re Dying” – lw 18/240
    24 Adam Lambert “Whattaya Want From Me” – lw 22
    35 Danny Gokey “My Best Days Are Ahead of Me”
    36 We Are the World “USA for Africa” – 26
    54 Daughtry “Life After You” – lw 43
    65 Carrie Underwood “Temporary Home” – lw 58
    71 Kris Allen “Let it Be (Live)” – lw 9
    100 Carrie Underwood “Cowboy Casanova” – lw 86
    133 General Larry Platt – Pants On the Ground – 48
    142 Kelly Clarkson “Already Gone” – lw 125
    252 Kellie Pickler “Didn’t You Know How Much I Loved You” – 183
    270 Daughtry “No Surprise” – lw 285

  2. While not mediabase (as I don’t think they track it), here is the Billboard Idol list for hot dance/club play songs. The chart has already been out a few days but this seem like the appropriate thread to note things like this.

    Adam Lambert:
    For Your Entertainment: #6 (8)

    Blake Lewis:
    Heartbreak On Vinyl: #19 (26)

    I can only see the top 25, so this is the first time I realized Blake was rising on the chart. Go Blake!! Can someone that has the itunes link for the top 1000 songs check to see if/where this appears?

  3. I’ve been so busy watching and reading all the stuff on Adam from Australia, I haven’t really paid attention to the mediabase daily updates. Great news!!! Z100 took it out of power rotation so I was a little concerned it would lose some steam before picking up spins from the newer station adds, but it doesn’t look to have lost anything. Yeahhh!!!

    Wow on Kris being just outside the top 10 on Pop. Whenever that song finally peaks and moves down, the number of weeks that song was in the Top 40 will be incredible! Good for him!

  4. FYE is up to #5 on the Hot Dance Club chart.

    Billboard Hot Dance Club Play Chart 3/20/2010

    TW LW Title Artist Label/Dist Label

    *1 *2 Acapella Kelis will.i.am / THANK YOU!
    *2 *3 Fancy Free Sun JH
    *3 *9 Louboutins Jennifer Lopez Epic / Columbia
    4 *4 Feel It Three 6 Mafia Vs. Tiesto With Sean Kingston & Flo Rida Hypnotize Minds/Columbia / Sony Music
    5 *6 For Your Entertainment Adam Lambert 19/RCA / RMG

  5. LLWD looks in good position to enter the top 10. And WWFM and MBD are in good position on Pop and Country as well. No knock on the BB Hot Dance Club Play Chart but you can see from the top five songs that very little music gets sold there. None of those top 5 songs chart in the top 100 of downloads as far as I can tell. Still nice to make a BB chart.

    LLWD and WWFM have done better than Crush and LO on the Pop charts. So give S8 that even if the album sales so far are meh in comparison. I can’t see anyone from S9 going for Top 40 radio hits though. Looks like HAC all the way which is fine if they can sell albums along the way.

  6. I am glad to see that Danny moved up a couple of spots on the country chart to #32.

    Also Danny’s song is currently now #30 on the 7 Day Rolling Chart from mediabase. Maybe he will end up with a Top 30 Country hit by the end of this week.

  7. Kirsten – is there a typo? You have both Kris Allen and Daughtry at “#6 AC”.

    Unless I’m reading something wrong.

  8. Allison’s song Scars has gotten a radio add. Does that mean its an official single? The fact that it didn’t sell many downloads after an Idol appearance is a bad sign though. Any song done on Idol usually will get a big boost. I think Jive is trying very hard with Allison but it’s just not working so far.

  9. Kirsten – is there a typo? You have both Kris Allen and Daughtry at “#6 AC”.

    Unless I’m reading something wrong.

    Maybe she corrected it, but I see Daughtry at #6 AC and LLWD at #22 AC. On HAC they’re at #5 and #6, respectively.

  10. Yeah I was probably looking at the wrong one. Sorry. Kudos to all the idols. Very happy for Kris and Adam. Wish Allison was doing better.

  11. “whataya want from me” is also #3 on Canada’s Billboard Hot 100!! Canada might give him his first #1. Also, on today’s rolling mediabase chart, “Whataya want from me” is actually #15!!

    POP:
    18 15 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 4646 4177 469 29.341
    +105 Spins
    +77 Bullet
    +0.098 AI

    HAC:
    19 16 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 1609 1323 286 8.499
    +47 Spins
    +9 Bullet
    +0.330 AI

  12. I wish Allison were doing better too. She needs to go on tour with an act that is more in her genre. Not Miley Cirus, although I know Miley loves her!

  13. Those with access–what are the top 4 songs on HAC and how far behind is LLWD from LAY? Is there a chance that both songs will move up this week?

    I heard LLWD at #6 on Ryan’s AT40 yesterday. Didn’t catch WWFM. Anybody know where it was on his countdown?

  14. saga, thanks for the correction on dance/club play chart. I didn’t realize today was the day a new one came out. To add to it and make it Idol complete:

    TW LW Title Artist Label/Dist Label
    5 *6 For Your Entertainment Adam Lambert 19/RCA / RMG
    *15 *19 Heartbreak On Vinyl Blake Lewis Tommy Boy

  15. I heard LLWD at #6 on Ryan’s AT40 yesterday. Didn’t catch WWFM. Anybody know where it was on his countdown?

    LLWD is #13 on Ryan’s AT40. WWFM is #19.

  16. Actually, WWFM is #1 on Canada HAC today, passing Daughtry. Still #6 on Canada top40.

    Canada-Hot AC
    Published (Canada) — Rolling Chart — Currents Only
    lw: Feb 22 – Feb 28 TW: Mar 1 – Mar 7

    4 1 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 717 64 72 4.648
    1 2 DAUGHTRY Life After You 716 705 11 4.037
    2 3 LADY GAGA Bad Romance 619 686 -67 4.114

  17. No knock on the BB Hot Dance Club Play Chart but you can see from the top five songs that very little music gets sold there.

    Maybe not. But a lot of artists start in the Dance club music scene and then move to popularity on radio. The dance clubs are where a lot of newer music can get it’s first try out. And for someone like Blake, it can be a very big deal. Because while his single won’t go platinum because it’s played in clubs, it likely sells a whole lot more than it would if it weren’t played anywhere. And if he (or someone else) hits the right sound at the right time, the song could blow up on top40 chart too.

    I also kind of look at it as anytime a song is played, it’s advertising for the artist. While the dance club audience isn’t as large as radio, it can result in a lot of word of mouth advertising. I’m firmly of the belief that the dance clubs are the main reason FYE is still selling as well as it is in the US. It got a boost after the AMA’s but that boost has long since died off and the single is still at #124 in pop on itunes without any real radio play. I think the name recognition + dance club play has a lot to do with the single still charting.

  18. Great updates! And it feels like WWFM is finally starting to move. Oh, and way to go Canada—could be Adam’s first #1!

  19. POP:
    12 11 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dying 5653 5268 385 32.814
    +49 Spins
    +24 Bullet
    +0.241 AI

    HAC:
    7 6 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dying 3295 3151 144 17.136
    +21 Spins
    +16 Bullet
    -0.045 AI

    POP:
    18 15 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 4646 4177 469 29.341
    +105 Spins
    +77 Bullet
    +0.098 AI

    HAC:
    19 16 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 1609 1323 286 8.499
    +47 Spins
    +9 Bullet
    +0.330 AI

  20. YankeeFan08:
    03/08/2010 at 8:24 am

    I heard LLWD at #6 on Ryan’s AT40 yesterday. Didn’t catch WWFM. Anybody know where it was on his countdown?

    LLWD is #13 on Ryan’s AT40. WWFM is #19.

    How can this be? I heard it yesterday at #6 and I was quite shocked. I had expected to hear it around #13 and thought I had missed it. I’m confuzzled (but I know what I heard!).

  21. There are Top 40 countdowns and HAC countdown shows. Different charts. I had no idea Life After You was doing so well in Canada.

  22. hoosiermama:
    03/08/2010 at 8:41 am

    YankeeFan08:
    03/08/2010 at 8:24 am

    I heard LLWD at #6 on Ryan’s AT40 yesterday. Didn’t catch WWFM. Anybody know where it was on his countdown?

    LLWD is #13 on Ryan’s AT40. WWFM is #19.

    How can this be? I heard it yesterday at #6 and I was quite shocked. I had expected to hear it around #13 and thought I had missed it. I’m confuzzled (but I know what I heard!).

    Maybe it wasn’t Ryan’s countdown you were listening to.
    http://www.at40.com/rest_chart.html?format=chr

  23. How can this be? I heard it yesterday at #6 and I was quite shocked. I had expected to hear it around #13 and thought I had missed it. I’m confuzzled (but I know what I heard!).

    You were probably listening to Ryan’s HAC countdown. The station I listen to plays Ryan’s AT40. I don’t have the chart positions for HAC.

    Here’s the link for the AT40 chart:

    http://www.at40.com/rest_chart.html?format=chr&

  24. By the way, I was recently in England and the only Idol song I heard was Feels Like Tonight (but not Daughtry’s version). That seems like a big hit. Not as big as Empire State of Mind which is massive. And the songs from Glee show up on their top videos. Kind of fun since I’m not sure they even get the show.

  25. LLWD has been #6 on the HAC AT40 countdown for the last three weeks now, I think.

  26. Congrats to all the idols. It’s great seeing so many of them of the charts.

  27. WWFM has plenty of room for adds in HAC, hopefully there will be some today. Dallas, Portland and Austin have pretty big spins, maybe they will add today. And nice to see Mix 100.7 in Tampa with 11 spins, as 93.3 Top 40 has dropped it to #7 on their playlist after a few weeks of heavy rotation. But Kris is now #1 on their playlist!

    There’s always HAC Cumulus, lol

    Update: 3 auto adds this morning.

  28. I am hoping WWFM will get the HAC Cumulus adds today! Heh! And later this week the Premium Choice HAC add.

  29. 3 new auto adds for WWFM

    KZZO-FM Hot AC Sacramento
    WDVW-FM Hot AC New Orleans
    WNOU-FM Top 40 Indianapolis

  30. Woo-hoo WWFM!!! :-)

    BTW – in DC we are woefully deprived of WWFM because of radio suckage, but when I went to see Adam’s concert in SoCal last week, I kept hearing it on the radio – and that made me squee with delight and almost wreck my car – lol :-)

    Come on, DC radio – DNW to hear Blah Blah Blah, Imma Be, and Sexy Chick as the only three songs in your rotation – ugh (no lie)

  31. Danny has five other adds, although those aren’t monitored — total of six this week so far.

    Glad to see his single seems very secure right now in the country top 40, and closing in on the top 30 quite possibly. Will be interested where the Billboard number comes in, he was #31 last week.

  32. jpfan:
    03/08/2010 at 8:03 am
    Allison’s song Scars has gotten a radio add. Does that mean its an official single? The fact that it didn’t sell many downloads after an Idol appearance is a bad sign though. Any song done on Idol usually will get a big boost. I think Jive is trying very hard with Allison but it’s just not working so far.

    OMG – I am BEYOND frustrated, tbh, about the choice of Scars as a single for her :-( It didn’t translate well on AI – they should have gone with a more upbeat, rocking song, or at least something with more melody than Scars. Sorry, but it had no discernible hook, and that is very necessary for it to be picked up by radio. FIBOU was WAY more radio friendly imo.

    So, yeah, I echo your thoughts, and hope she gets on a high profile tour soon. She is an AMAZING live performer, and could really really build a new fanbase if she latches on to the right tour. Weren’t people mentioning Paramore before? IDK – not a Disney person, I hope, but someone similar to her, with a rock vibe.

  33. Oh, and YEA to WWFM in Canada, and FYE on the dance charts – that is awesome!!! :-)

  34. Grats to all the Idols. They’re really holding their own on the charts. It’s nice to see Ruben making a showing on Urban. He’s so under-appreciated.

    I’m really pleased with how well LLWD is holding and moving up on radio play. I’m ready for Kris second single to hit, though. I also wish radio stations like KBIG in LA would link HIS album to it instead of country Kris Allen.

  35. LLWD and WWFM have done better than Crush and LO on the Pop charts.

    I think Crush peaked at #11 on the Pop chart.

  36. Here are a few more than didn’t show up in the top 50 from Pulse.

    CHR/Pop
    109 83 KELLY CLARKSON All I Ever Wanted 62 30 +32 0.106
    292 96 ALLISON IRAHETA Scars 42 4 +38 0.103
    149 134 KIMBERLY CALDWELL Mess Of You 21 15 +6 0.128

    ETA: I agree with jpfan about Allison. It does look like Jive is trying but the public just isn’t connecting. Really frustrating indeed.

  37. YankeeFan08:
    03/08/2010 at 8:44 am

    How can this be? I heard it yesterday at #6 and I was quite shocked. I had expected to hear it around #13 and thought I had missed it. I’m confuzzled (but I know what I heard!).

    You were probably listening to Ryan’s HAC countdown.

    Ah ha! That makes sense now. Thank you! I didn’t know Ryan did an HAC top 40. Learn something new every day! :-)

  38. I think Crush peaked at #11 on the Pop chart.

    It’s official peak was 12, but it did make it into the top 10 mid-week.

    Allison’s song Scars has gotten a radio add. Does that mean its an official single?

    This is reminding me a lot of what went down with “Touch My Hand”. Performed on AI, but never sent for adds or supported.

    I find this very confusing. Jive got her great producers to work with and some radio events, but nothing seems to be happening. So on the one hand, they seem invested, but on the other hand, where are the results? Are they not working it or are the singles just not working or is this one of those ninja stealth strategies we heard so much about last fall…j/k on the last part.

  39. Are they not working it or are the singles just not working or is this one of those ninja stealth strategies we heard so much about last fall. *cough*

    It really does make you wonder what it going on behind the scenes and where the blame really belongs. This one is for the grassy knoll for sure.

  40. Mary102:
    03/08/2010 at 10:11 am
    jpfan:
    03/08/2010 at 8:03 am
    Allison’s song Scars has gotten a radio add. Does that mean its an official single? The fact that it didn’t sell many downloads after an Idol appearance is a bad sign though. Any song done on Idol usually will get a big boost. I think Jive is trying very hard with Allison but it’s just not working so far.

    OMG – I am BEYOND frustrated, tbh, about the choice of Scars as a single for her It didn’t translate well on AI – they should have gone with a more upbeat, rocking song, or at least something with more melody than Scars. Sorry, but it had no discernible hook, and that is very necessary for it to be picked up by radio. FIBOU was WAY more radio friendly imo.

    So, yeah, I echo your thoughts, and hope she gets on a high profile tour soon. She is an AMAZING live performer, and could really really build a new fanbase if she latches on to the right tour. Weren’t people mentioning Paramore before? IDK – not a Disney person, I hope, but someone similar to her, with a rock vibe.

    I knew Holiday was probably out of the running for her next single because of the whole Dilana thing but I think D is for Dangerous or Don’t Waste the Pretty would have been much better choices – both have good hooks that could have taken off. The choice of Scars just seems so backwards because there’s really no hook to it. They need to get either the LA or NY markets to support one of her songs and then she’ll be rolling – and I don’t see that happening with Scars.

    I think Crush peaked at #11 on the Pop chart.

    It’s official peak was 12, but it did make it into the top 10 mid-week.

    So LLWD, thought DOA, has actually done better then Crush in it’s official peak position even if it doesn’t go higher then this week. I don’t think many of us ever expected this. Now, if only album sales were better…

  41. Adds so far this morning:

    LLWD – 2 (1 AC, 1 Top 40)
    WWFM – 3 (2 Hot AC, 1 Top 40)
    MBD – 7
    Scars – 3 (Top 40, includes add from 3/6)

    NOTE: LLWD and WWFM were added by the same Top 40 station in Indianapolis

  42. I find this very confusing. Jive got her great producers to work with and some radio events, but nothing seems to be happening. So on the one hand, they seem invested, but on the other hand, where are the results? Are they not working it or are the singles just not working or is this one of those ninja stealth strategies we heard so much about last fall…j/k on the last part.

    My take is, they really are trying hard, and putting lots of resources behind her (well, as many as they CAN, since Jive has to juggle other artists and only has so much money to play around with).

    But that they are stumbling with how to market her, which I feared would be problem #1 for her. FIBOU was clearly meant to be a pop, Miley/Disney-esque song that would appeal to a younger demographic, in fitting with her age. But it didn’t pick up on radio because that Top 40 market can be very fickle and hard to predict, not to mention she’s still such an unknown, even within the Idol-verse.

    So, maybe Scars was meant to be a re-invention type thing, to market her more toward the older AC/HAC crowd, but the song is just not strong enough imo to work well on radio.

    I really think Allison’s best music outlet is to front a rock band -trouble is rock is not such an easy sell on radio (especially for Idols), and female led rock bands can be even harder – they tend to be cyclical – so while they’re not big now, they could be again in, say 2 or 3 years. So hard to tell. But that’s my take.

  43. Kris is still nearly 400 spins behind “Sexy Chick”, which is #10 on the mediabase Pop chart. The good news is that LLWD actually gained spins in the 1-day update on “BlahBlahBlah”, which sits at #12

  44. Allison is a failure. It was a mistake to even sign her, she just appeared better than she actually was on the show because of a serious lack of female talent. I would not just argue that she is one of the biggest idol busts of all time, I would argue with all the post show promo she got she is a bust in just new artist terms.

  45. There is a rumor that Z-100 is going to add Scars next week. I guess the PD was quoted as saying how much she loves the song? So we’ll see if this actually happens

  46. I don’t think Jive is really trying that hard to push Allison, even if they haven’t given up on her just yet. They let her perform on idol, something she probably would have gotten to do even if she wasn’t signed to them just for making it to the top 4 last season. (Carly, Brooke & Michael Johns have all performed without being signed to major labels at the time.)

    Some things to consider:
    – She hasn’t done that much TV. And when she does do TV, she only sings. She’s not given an interview, which is so important for new artists who the public doesn’t know.
    – On idol, she didn’t even get a video package talking about where she is now.
    – She hasn’t been scheduled to tour. If they don’t think she can headline, then they should at least schedule her to be an opening act for a big name.

    Something else to consider: On idol, she attracted two very different groups of fans. Tweens who identified with her and older folks who saw her as a throw-back to Janis Joplin. Having her go the modern, pop/rock-route alienated the older fan base.

    Finally, I think it’s way too early to assume that Scars is not going to be a hit. Last week, Scars had one add. This week, it has 34. Let’s just hope it continues the upward trend.

  47. Allison is very young. She has time to fail and reemerge if she’s dropped. When we got the leak on Itunes midseason, I seemed to recall that she wasn’t selling well at all. I wonder why that is – with all the love I see for her here and in the media (easpecially Sleazak).
    I personally think she’s a very good singer, but I’ve yet to find a song I want to buy from her. Scratch that, I’ve bought a few. I just don’t like them enough to listen to them.

  48. There is a rumor that Z-100 is going to add Scars next week. I guess the PD was quoted as saying how much she loves the song? So we’ll see if this actually happens

    If this happens then Allison has the potential to do well. Z100 is one of the trend setters for Pop radio because they are the #1 Pop station in the #1 market. If Z100 adds it many others would follow and then she’ll have a shot. I do think the Z100 support was a big part of the success of LLWD and I also think the fact that they wouldn’t add FYE was a big part of the problem with that song, particularly since they had no problems with Adam, per se, and have actually been spinning WWFM like crazy until recently.

  49. girlygirl:
    03/08/2010 at 11:02 am
    There is a rumor that Z-100 is going to add Scars next week. I guess the PD was quoted as saying how much she loves the song? So we’ll see if this actually happens

    That would be huge if it happens…fingers crossed, but I still stand by my prediction that Scars is just not a very radio friendly song – and for the record, I was 100% of the belief that LLWD was very very radio friendly when it first played (same with WWFM :-) )

  50. She hasn’t been scheduled to tour. If they don’t think she can headline, then they should at least schedule her to be an opening act for a big name.

    Kris and Adam do not have tours scheduled as of yet either so it’s hard to count this against her. Like with the 2 guys, I would think there might be stuff in the works for her.

  51. gangreen29:
    03/08/2010 at 10:53 am
    Allison is a failure. It was a mistake to even sign her, she just appeared better than she actually was on the show because of a serious lack of female talent. I would not just argue that she is one of the biggest idol busts of all time, I would argue with all the post show promo she got she is a bust in just new artist terms.

    While I agree that last year was very weak with women talent, and that she did naturally shine even more because of it, I think Allison is one of the best performers and vocalists they’ve ever had. I just think the marketing was never quite right for her – there was no real easy niche to put her in music-wise, and she never had as strong a fanbase from AI to carry her up in the beginning.

  52. Finally, I think it’s way too early to assume that Scars is not going to be a hit. Last week, Scars had one add. This week, it has 34. Let’s just hope it continues the upward trend.

    Uh. No. It had 34 spins not 34 adds. A total of 4 stations have added scars to their play lists.

  53. I don’t think Allison is a failure, just because her album is not selling. I do think she needs time to grow up and mature as a person and a artist. She needs at least a couple of years to grow into her talent. Allison is not a bubblegum pop artist, certainly not with that voice. Unfortunately for her, that first single was horrible, which didn’t attract the tweens and turned off some of the older fans.

  54. The official quote from Z-100’s PD:

    “Her Album ‘Just Like You’ came out at the end of the year, and it got a little lost. The next single, ‘Scars,’ is a Pink-style ballad, and it’s amazing”
    Download this: “Scars”

    http://twitpic.com/15id1b

  55. I wonder why that is – with all the love I see for her here and in the media (easpecially Sleazak).

    LOL – as a long follower of Slezak, I must admit that I was often a little perplexed by his EXTREME worship of Allison. She was great on AI, but he kind of made it his personal crusade to “save the rocker” – which made more sense during the context of the season, since she would often give such awesome performances, yet constantly found herself in the bottom 3 – not a good sign.

  56. Uh. No. It had 34 spins not 34 adds. A total of 4 stations have added scars to their play lists.

    Sorry – I’m not familiar with all of the terminology. 34 spins in a week from only 4 stations is still an improvement. Plus, it’s seems that those stations are at least playing the song semi-regularly then.

  57. LOL – as a long follower of Slezak, I must admit that I was often a little perplexed by his EXTREME worship of Allison. She was great on AI, but he kind of made it his personal crusade to “save the rocker” – which made more sense during the context of the season, since she would often give such awesome performances, yet constantly found herself in the bottom 3 – not a good sign.

    Slezak went a little over the top for Allison. I loved her on AI as my second fave but I always found a slight disconnect between her and what she was singing and I think that is still the problem now. Her voice lends itself to “older” themes, but her age is such that there is also an expectation for her to sing “younger” which is what I think they tried to do with FIBOU. But the result was that same disconnect – she was singing age-appropriate but no voice-appropriate.

  58. Uh. No. It had 34 spins not 34 adds. A total of 4 stations have added scars to their play lists.

    That makes more sense – I was gonna say – if it went from one add to 34 – that would be, like, new Lady Gaga single good :-)

  59. I still think Allison would’ve been better off waiting a few years for Idol. But with Simon leaving and this season being so lackluster, who knows how many more years are left.

    I do think it’s just a matter of marketing her correctly, becuase she’s a seriously talented girl.

  60. Her voice lends itself to “older” themes, but her age is such that there is also an expectation for her to sing “younger” which is what I think they tried to do with FIBOU. But the result was that same disconnect – she was singing age-appropriate but no voice-appropriate.

    Yep – that pretty much summarizes my main issue too. As I said before, she has such an “old soul” voice to her.

  61. gangreen29:
    03/08/2010 at 10:53 am
    Allison is a failure. It was a mistake to even sign her, she just appeared better than she actually was on the show because of a serious lack of female talent. I would not just argue that she is one of the biggest idol busts of all time, I would argue with all the post show promo she got she is a bust in just new artist terms.

    Mary102:
    03/08/2010 at 11:10 am
    While I agree that last year was very weak with women talent, and that she did naturally shine even more because of it, I think Allison is one of the best performers and vocalists they’ve ever had. I just think the marketing was never quite right for her – there was no real easy niche to put her in music-wise, and she never had as strong a fanbase from AI to carry her up in the beginning.

    I totally agree that Allison is one of the best performers and vocalists Idol has had. And the problem is not marketing. The problem is they made an album that doesn’t fit well in any genre. They tried to give her a pop sound, but she doesn’t have a current pop voice. Add to that, the songs are very weak when looked at in the context of radio play. Very few have a decent melody line or hook that will work on radio and none have a superb one. They could have made her a huge pop success, but they would have had to have had a vision of a new sound in mind for her. Instead they tried to slot her into an existing pop sound which just doesn’t work. Jive’s A&R rep failed with this album.

    I’m hoping that when the contract is over, Allison walks away from Jive and spends some time working independently and develops a sound that’s right for her and figures out what genre she fits best. If she can get the right sound and the right material she could be successful.

  62. At 17 but without a tween pop style, Allison was going to be hard to market. I think Jive realizes that and isn’t going to give up on her anytime soon.

    In a way, though, it’s too bad Allison isn’t fronting a band, a la Haley Williams of Paramore. Haley is very successful, and is what — 19 or 20? With her singing voice and style, Allison might have seen more immediate success if she’s gone that route.

    I still think that eventually she will be successful as a solo artist. It may take a few years, though.

  63. “whataya want from me” is also #3 on Canada’s Billboard Hot 100!! Canada might give him his first #1. Also, on today’s rolling mediabase chart, “Whataya want from me” is actually #15!!
    POP:
    18 15 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 4646 4177 469 29.341
    +105 Spins
    +77 Bullet
    +0.098 AI
    HAC:
    19 16 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 1609 1323 286 8.499
    +47 Spins
    +9 Bullet
    +0.330 AI

    Actually, WWFM is #1 on Canada HAC today

    Wow! Great update today! I wonder if it’s those Cumulas adds that are already helping on the Pop chart?
    Those Canadians love Adam! :)

  64. Wait – what? Stop the presses – did Adam actually get Cumulus adds?

  65. LOL – as a long follower of Slezak, I must admit that I was often a little perplexed by his EXTREME worship of Allison. She was great on AI, but he kind of made it his personal crusade to “save the rocker” – which made more sense during the context of the season, since she would often give such awesome performances, yet constantly found herself in the bottom 3 – not a good sign.

    The thing about Slezak is that while, yes, he really liked Allison, they’re creating a serial show and needed to have theme and arc to the episodes to draw people in. The “Save the Rocker” and “Put the Go in Gokey” taglines along with Kristen with glasses, the dubbed Japanese movies and the wonder woman segments made the Season 8 Idolatry episodes memorable and entertaining.

    Shortly after the top 12 is picked this year, I expect them to come up with some new hooks for this year’s Idolatry episodes.

  66. OMFG – I just saw – they did. Wow.

    ETA: But am I still not seeing ANY DC adds? WTF!!! We are seriously the only major market not to add him!!! Argh!!

  67. She’s not given an interview, which is so important for new artists who the public doesn’t know.

    I don't know if interviews are all that important to the music buying public. Is it really all that important to get to know an artist beyond the music? For me, when I hear a good song, i'll buy it, I don't need to hear the artist speak to know I like the song they just played. As long as I can relate to the message and they are convincing as a messenger.

    Actually. I think it might work against her. I think allison's interview style might actually put some people off. That silly, immature side she continually shows just doesn't resonate with me, and I can't be the only one who finds her music and her personality so incongruent that I just can't embrace either.

    Yeah, sometimes I think it's better that they don't speak. All just mho.

    she would often give such awesome performances, yet constantly found herself in the bottom 3 – not a good sign.

    I’ve often wondered why they chose to sign the person who was always at the bottom of the pack. There was something that wasn’t “clicking” with people, I wonder if that “something” is carrying over to her recording career?

  68. Mary102:
    03/08/2010 at 11:33 am

    Wait – what? Stop the presses – did Adam actually get Cumulus adds?

    Last week he got a bunch of Cumulus Top40 adds. Waiting to see if the Cumulus HAC stations add today.

    junior: re Allison and interviews. I totally agree she’s better off not talking at all. On the other hand, if an artist interviews well and is entertaining, it’s lends itself to positive name recognition which in turn makes people more likely to buy when they do hear a song they like (as positive emotions are often a trigger for people to spend money).

  69. She hasn’t been scheduled to tour. If they don’t think she can headline, then they should at least schedule her to be an opening act for a big name.

    I wouldn’t state that as a detriment. In fact, the only Idol from S8 who has a tour all set is Danny Gokey so far.

    I love Allison’s voice. I guess I am just one of those people who think they should raise the age limit for AI. I think it would be better for some kids to mature in all ways, not just musically.

  70. I love Allison’s voice. I guess I am just one of those people who think they should raise the age limit for AI. I think it would be better for some kids to mature in all ways, not just musically.

    I’m totally with you on that one – exhibit A is Haeley from last week – clearly not ready to be on the show – they really would have done her a service to keep her off the Top 24, but told her to try in a few years.

  71. Kris and Adam do not have tours scheduled as of yet either so it’s hard to count this against her. Like with the 2 guys, I would think there might be stuff in the works for her.

    Kris and Adam may not have tour dates scheduled but they do have a lot more one-off and promotional gigs scheduled. Allison was also removed from the gig she had with Kris at the Hartman Arena, Wichita KS later this month. What is going on there? It may just be that there were no other female artists on the bill. I think it is more alarming that she has so much free time without any steady revenue coming in.

    Allison Calendar:
    March 11/10 – Performance, Little Black Dress Party for B93.7 fm (with Edwin McCain), Greenville SC.
    March 21/10 – Singing National Anthem at L.A. Marathon, L.A. CA.

  72. Actually. I think it might work against her. I think allison’s interview style might actually put some people off. That silly, immature side she continually shows just doesn’t resonate with me, and I can’t be the only one who finds her music and her personality so incongruent that I just can’t embrace either.

    Yeah, I agree – when she performed on AI recently, the performance was strong, but talking with Ryan was almost cringeworthy – my parents were big fans of her’s last year, and even they thought so. I think she just needs to grow into a more mature, collected persona when interviewing.

  73. junior: re Allison and interviews. I totally agree she’s better off not talking at all. On the other hand, if an artist interviews well and is entertaining, it’s lends itself to positive name recognition which in turn makes people more likely to buy when they do hear a song they like (as positive emotions are often a trigger for people to spend money).

    Yes, you’re right there. I can understand that.

  74. I’m totally with you on that one – exhibit A is Haeley from last week – clearly not ready to be on the show – they really would have done her a service to keep her off the Top 24, but told her to try in a few years.

    Yep, me three. Although I think luv would argue for Aaron this year. Maybe it’s because I’m not 16 or under.

    Last week he got a bunch of Cumulus Top40 adds. Waiting to see if the Cumulus HAC stations add today.

    Are we on ketchup alert again?

  75. So I was just on QVC.com and saw that Justin Bieber is appearing/performing on QVC twice this week to promote his new album, My World 2.0. Online he is referred to as : “Soul Singing Sensation”. First Susan Boyle was on QVC (and sold iirc like 20K) and now the Bieb. I can’t decide if I should cancel my membership or tweet Kris and Adam to get on QVC pronto?!

  76. Yeah, I agree – when she performed on AI recently, the performance was strong, but talking with Ryan was almost cringeworthy – my parents were big fans of her’s last year, and even they thought so.

    See, I don’t agree the performance was strong. Not only was the song not good IMO, I thought the delivery was very harsh and angry sounding. I felt like saying lighten up honey, you’re only 17. Maybe many others see it that way as well and could be one reason they’re not connecting with her. I watched with my nieces ages 12 and 14, and they didn’t like the song or her performance either.

    She needs some coaching as to how to interview. It was indeed cringeworthy listening to her talking to Ryan.

  77. The thing about Slezak is that while, yes, he really liked Allison, they’re creating a serial show and needed to have theme and arc to the episodes to draw people in. The “Save the Rocker” and “Put the Go in Gokey” taglines along with Kristen with glasses, the dubbed Japanese movies and the wonder woman segments made the Season 8 Idolatry episodes memorable and entertaining.

    Shortly after the top 12 is picked this year, I expect them to come up with some new hooks for this year’s Idolatry episodes.

    I think they’ve sort of picked something already as long as Siobhan stays in…

  78. Here are the top 40 adds that Scars has so far:

    WDJQ-FM Pub 0 Top 40 Canton, OH 19/Jive/JLG D A Peterson Inc 129 3/6/2010 5:42:00 AM

    * WHTS-FM Pub 7 Top 40 Grand Rapids 19/Jive/JLG Citadel Communications Corp. 67 3/8/2010 6:47:00 AM

    * WJIM-FM Pub 17 Top 40 Lansing 19/Jive/JLG Citadel Communications Corp. 125 3/8/2010 6:47:00 AM

  79. hoosiermama:
    03/08/2010 at 11:48 am
    So I was just on QVC.com and saw that Justin Bieber is appearing/performing on QVC twice this week to promote his new album, My World 2.0. Online he is referred to as : “Soul Singing Sensation”. First Susan Boyle was on QVC (and sold iirc like 20K) and now the Bieb. I can’t decide if I should cancel my membership or tweet Kris and Adam to get on QVC pronto?!

    LOL – good call – they’re like the new Oprah ;-) Personally I don’t ever watch QVC, so, go figure.

  80. ETA: But am I still not seeing ANY DC adds? WTF!!! We are seriously the only major market not to add him!!! Argh!!

    Well, that’s pretty typical for the DC stations, as you know. Apparently they think we’re too stupid and boring to enjoy hearing more than five different songs over a six-month period. Or — my personal theory — there are political messages programmed into the five songs they repeatedly play and they’re involved in some kind of sophisticated brainwashing plot aimed at congressional aides and civil servants. Seriously. Hard to account for the *very* narrow playlists we hear in DC. That said, they usually add top songs *eventually,* so if WWFM continues slowly moving up the charts without falling, I expect we’ll begin to hear it in DC about 6 to 8 weeks from now. Please prove me pessimistic, Hot 99.5.

  81. Mary102
    You arnt the only one who’s radio stations suck. I think I have heard WWFM like 3 times and we have 4 Top 40 stations in Seattle. I have heard LLWD prob 40 times more but its mostly Gaga and Ke$ha. The other day Gaga was playing on 3 at the same time and Ke$ha on the 4th. Very frusterating.

  82. Please prove me pessimistic, Hot 99.5.

    LOL – 99.5 just sucks. Seriously, I was listening all weekend (kept forgetting my ipod in the car) – and I think Blah Blah Blah, Imma Be, and Sexy Chick were the only songs they were playing. Maybe Need you Now every now and then too. So sad.

  83. Well, that’s pretty typical for the DC stations, as you know. Apparently they think we’re too stupid and boring to enjoy hearing more than five different songs over a six-month period. Or — my personal theory — there are political messages programmed into the five songs they repeatedly play and they’re involved in some kind of sophisticated brainwashing plot aimed at congressional aides and civil servants. Seriously. Hard to account for the *very* narrow playlists we hear in DC. That said, they usually add top songs *eventually,* so if WWFM continues slowly moving up the charts without falling, I expect we’ll begin to hear it in DC about 6 to 8 weeks from now. Please prove me pessimistic, Hot 99.5.

    DC is slow – they took forever to add LLWD and WWFM hasn’t been out as long as the amount of time it took them to add LLWD – I think you need another 2-4 weeks to have the right time frame for them.

  84. Hopefully Scars will get Adds and increased radio play will help Allison. She is so young even if it doesn’t work out with Jive for her this time, she will get signed again. I think she will be successful and hopefully it will be now,but if not she will be in a couple years. She has a vocal range and tone that most singers would kill for. I hope she gets to tour with someone who is already established to increase her fanbase.

  85. DC is slow – they took forever to add LLWD

    Yeah, I noticed they were very slow with LLWD too – it was already a pretty big hit throughout the country before we heard it (sometime before x-mas iirc).

    And they were slow with other big hits – seriously the first time I ever heard TOML on the radio was mid-August the year it came out. I didn’t even know it was a big hit, stuck in my craptastic DC radio bubble.

  86. I find it totally amazing that LLWD has gone so high on the Pop mediabase charts (#11 in total spins this week and could hit #10 next week) without any Top 40 adds from LA, Chicago, SF or Houston, which are huge markets.

  87. J9BT:
    03/08/2010 at 12:30 pm

    I find it totally amazing that LLWD has gone so high on the Pop mediabase charts (#11 in total spins this week and could hit #10 next week) without any Top 40 adds from LA, Chicago, SF or Houston, which are huge markets.

    I know! Do you think there is any hope at this point for those markets to add it? Geez–the song will be platinum this week! What are they waiting for?

  88. Allison is a failure. It was a mistake to even sign her, she just appeared better than she actually was on the show because of a serious lack of female talent. I would not just argue that she is one of the biggest idol busts of all time, I would argue with all the post show promo she got she is a bust in just new artist terms.

    Allison isn’t a failure, she just has a failing cd. I’ll agree that at this point her cd appears to be a bust. But, I don’t think any of that signifies that she herself is any kind of failure. I think she’s extremely talented. The music on her cd just isn’t strong enough. Her first single went nowhere, and unfortunately I think the second might be a radio loser as well.

    When you appear on the show where millions of viewers previously loved you and you can’t sell a copious amount of downloads, I think it’s because the public just isn’t digging the song.

    I bought her cd because my 5 year old loved her on the show. I’ve listened to it a few times, and although I’m no expert, I just don’t hear the hit single that’s going to turn this thing around for her. (I do hope I’m wrong though). There was nothing on her cd that compelled me to listen to it again. Nor did I put any of the singles in my regular rotation.

    I don’t believe it’s an Allison problem, or a marketing problem. I think it’s simply a crappy music problem.

  89. I find it totally amazing that LLWD has gone so high on the Pop mediabase charts (#11 in total spins this week and could hit #10 next week) without any Top 40 adds from LA, Chicago, SF or Houston, which are huge markets.

    It has been added in Houston from what I saw, but the other 3 – this song would likely be Top 5 with those adds, rather than just working to get to Top 10 as is.

  90. I know! Do you think there is any hope at this point for those markets to add it? Geez–the song will be platinum this week! What are they waiting for?

    I honestly have no hope for these markets adding LLWD at this point. From what I’ve read in other places and noticed from their add lists, they seem to be totally rhythmic-focused, and add 1 or 2 non-rhythmic songs (Taylor Swift) so they can still be classified as Top 40. WWFM is more rhythmic, so some of these stations have added it already.

    I don’t think platinum status for digital sales has much to do with adding the song, but if it miraculously made it to #1 for Pop spins(not likely) then maybe they couldn’t ignore it – LOL! Other than that, I’m not holding my breath waiting for these adds. LLWD is missing out on some seriously large markets, though (#2, #3, #4 and some others high ranking), so if it does make Top 10 next week, that is quite an accomplishment (and #11 is already quite an accomplishment).

  91. LOL – as a long follower of Slezak, I must admit that I was often a little perplexed by his EXTREME worship of Allison. She was great on AI, but he kind of made it his personal crusade to “save the rocker” – which made more sense during the context of the season, since she would often give such awesome performances, yet constantly found herself in the bottom 3 – not a good sign.

    Mary102, I guess I’m not sure what you found perplexing about Michael Slezak’s “extreme worship of Allison.” I’m not really getting your post, I guess. Are you saying she wasn’t good enough for him to like her that much, and her being in the bottom three a lot proves that? All that proves is that she sometimes didn’t get enough votes. There could be many reasons for that, including that she’s a girl and the votes tend to go to the boys. But it doesn’t mean she wasn’t worth his “worship.” And that’s kind of up to him, isn’t it?

    Allison was also Jim Cantiello’s favorite, as he has said. Lyndsey Parker’s favorite was Adam, and she was extreme in her liking of him. Do you find that perplexing, or is it just the fact that someone’s favorite could be Allison that you find perplexing? Just curious, because I don’t find it perplexing at all. She’s really good. How many albums she’s sold, or votes, or whatever, doesn’t alter the fact that she’s a great singer.

  92. It has been added in Houston from what I saw, but the other 3 – this song would likely be Top 5 with those adds, rather than just working to get to Top 10 as is.

    I don’t think KKHH in Houston added it? The other Top 40 station did. Nothing in LA, Chicago or SF for Top 40, though. Also, nothing for Denver Top 40.

    ITA – if these stations would add LLWD, it would go Top 5, or higher.

  93. I find it totally amazing that LLWD has gone so high on the Pop mediabase charts (#11 in total spins this week and could hit #10 next week) without any Top 40 adds from LA, Chicago, SF or Houston, which are huge markets.

    J9BT : OK, question: Chicago 103.5 Kissfm (wksc)has it on their playlist (#104 TW, #46 LW), but It’s never been officially added.. I requested it a few times and they said they would play it. (never listened to hear it)… Anyway, 3 other Chicago stations played LLWD pretty heavily a few months back but have slowed up… I guess I don’t understand how “Adds” versus “playlists” work…

  94. Nothing in LA, Chicago or SF for Top 40, though. Also, nothing for Denver Top 40.

    Well, boo on them for not adding it. The song has way exceeded my expectations, though, and it continues to chug along, so we’ll see how much farther it goes!

  95. KKHH in Houston is holding out on WWFM as well as KMVQ in San Francisco. Maybe they don’t like Idols? Or they are just very slow to add songs.

  96. Mary102, I guess I’m not sure what you found perplexing about Michael Slezak’s “extreme worship of Allison.” I’m not really getting your post, I guess. Are you saying she wasn’t good enough for him to like her that much, and her being in the bottom three a lot proves that? All that proves is that she sometimes didn’t get enough votes. There could be many reasons for that, including that she’s a girl and the votes tend to go to the boys. But it doesn’t mean she wasn’t worth his “worship.” And that’s kind of up to him, isn’t it?

    Well, in Mary102’s defense, Slezak can veer toward OTT fan-boy territory. Sometimes he’s a little bit ridiculous. It doesn’t diminish Allison’s talent to point that out. I think Slezak, Jim C. & Lyndsay all sometimes do the slow slide into hardcore fandom and lose all objectivity LOL. That however does not negate the fact that I find Slezak & Jim C. positively adorable and ferociously hilarious.

  97. All these issues with songs being added – makes me glad I live in NY which added LLWD and WWFM right away, at least on Z100 and WPLJ. I sometimes listen to 92.3 when Z100 is annoying and they added LLWD a couple of weeks ago but haven’t added WWFM yet

  98. Mary102, I guess I’m not sure what you found perplexing about Michael Slezak’s “extreme worship of Allison.” I’m not really getting your post, I guess. Are you saying she wasn’t good enough for him to like her that much, and her being in the bottom three a lot proves that? All that proves is that she sometimes didn’t get enough votes. There could be many reasons for that, including that she’s a girl and the votes tend to go to the boys. But it doesn’t mean she wasn’t worth his “worship.” And that’s kind of up to him, isn’t it?

    Notice my use of the word EXTREME in uppercase – that was where the emphasis laid. I was responding to someone’s point about how she was very popular with media peeps like Slezak – and I guess my point (maybe lost in translation) – is that Slezak was an EXTREME example of Allison worship, imo a little too extreme, and thus not really the most indicative of how popular Allison is with critics at large.

    As for the second point – yes, I do think there was something not right with her always being in the bottom 3, yet clearly a strong talent, and often one of the best of the night. That is a bad sign, in terms of doing consistently well, but not getting enough votes. It’s one thing if you’re terrible and always in the bottom.

    IMO, something wasn’t resonating with voters because of the “good performance = bottom 3” formula for her.

    ETA: Heck, she got voted off after two of her most brilliant performances – though of course that’s happened before on the show.

    Anyways, not a knock on her talent – many of my posts go on about what a great singer and live performer she is.

  99. I live in a smallish town in upstate NY, a world away from the NYC stations, lol. I heard WWFM for the first time on my local (unmonitored) top 40 station just last week, they’d been playing it overnight but now have it in pretty decent daytime rotation. LLWD has got heavy play on both the top 40 and HAC stations here since day one. I figure if WWFM can get airplay here, it must be a good sign that it is spreading well into other tiny markets. Still keeping my fingers crossed for top 10 and platinum sales.

  100. Well, boo on them for not adding it. The song has way exceeded my expectations, though, and it continues to chug along, so we’ll see how much farther it goes!

    There are probably some Top 40 stations that are so rhythmic-focused that they’ll never see either LLWD or WWFM as working with their playlists. Unless one of the songs stays at the top of the charts otherwise for a year or so…. If that happens, pretty much everybody seems to add. That’s not likely though, I would guess.

  101. For Allison, I would have preferred ‘Don’t Waste the Pretty’ to ‘Scars’ as the second single. But they are both good songs. She has time to grow as an artist and time to grow a fan base. I do not consider her a failure at all.

    If they find the right act to tour with, I think she’ll do great. Playing the LA Marathon will be good exposure for her.

  102. LLWD is getting a TON of airplay from the major HAC station in Chicago (The Mix), and has for months. WKSC (KISSFM) is not going to play it—this station is very rythmic leaning, it is not a good fit. They aren’t really playing WWFM much either, although it has been added, for the same reason. B96 is even more urban than KISS so no chance of Adam or Kris getting spins for their current singles.

  103. Denver seems like it would have more of a country-western vibe to it that LLWD would appeal to its listeners,yet no adds. The others, not so much.

  104. HDD’s numbers so far with over 36% of reports in:

    26 1 LADY ANTEBELLUM CAPITOL NASHVILLE/EMI 81,461
    LADY ANTEBELLUM
    2 2 LADY ANTEBELLUM CAPITOL NASHVILLE/EMI 81,461
    NEED YOU NOW
    — 3 BLAKE SHELTON WARNER BROS. NASHVILLE 43,229
    HILLBILLY BONE
    1 4 SADE EPIC 37,032
    SOLDIER OF LOVE
    4 5 BLACK EYED PEAS INTERSCOPE 31,247
    E.N.D. (ENERGY NEVER DIES)
    5 6 LADY GAGA INTERSCOPE 29,830
    FAME
    — 7 EASTON CORBIN MERCURY 25,756
    EASTON CORBIN
    — 8 DANNY GOKEY 19/RCA NASHVILLE 19,601
    MY BEST DAYS
    11 9 JUSTIN BIEBER ISLAND/IDJMG 19,446
    MY WORLD
    7 10 KE$HA KEMOSABE/RCA/RMG 17,333
    ANIMAL
    12 11 LADY GAGA INTERSCOPE 17,239
    FAME MONSTER (EP)
    9 12 TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 17,219
    FEARLESS
    18 13 JOSH TURNER MCA NASHVILLE 16,970
    HAYWIRE
    14 14 ZAC BROWN BAND ATLANTIC 16,603
    FOUNDATION
    15 15 JAHEIM ATLANTIC 15,485
    ANOTHER ROUND
    6 16 LIL WAYNE CASH MONEY/UNIV MOTOWN 15,284
    REBIRTH
    — 17 RAHEEM DEVAUGHN JIVE/JLG 14,540
    LOVE & WAR
    8 18 SUSAN BOYLE COLUMBIA 14,067
    I DREAMED A DREAM
    16 19 ALICIA KEYS J RECORDS/RMG 13,234
    ELEMENT OF FREEDOM
    13 20 RIHANNA DEF JAM/IDJ 13,179
    RATED R
    17 21 MARY J. BLIGE GEFFEN 12,068
    STRONGER WITH EACH TEAR
    — 22 JASON DERULO BELUGA HGTS/WARNER BROS. 11,361
    JASON DERULO
    — 23 LIFEHOUSE GEFFEN 11,011
    SMOKE & MIRRORS
    33 24 JASON ALDEAN BROKEN BOW 9,874
    WIDE OPEN
    3 25 JOHNNY CASH AMERICAN/LOST HIGHWAY 9,106
    AMERICAN VI: AIN’T NO GRAVE
    22 26 CARRIE UNDERWOOD 19/ARISTA NASHVILLE 9,069
    PLAY ON
    — 27 DJ KHALED E1 ENTERTAINMENT 8,922
    VICTROY
    41 28 NOW THAT’S WHAT I CALL MUSIC SONY MUSIC 8,850
    NOW 32
    — 29 ALMOST ALICE BUENA VISTA 8,650
    VARIOUS ARTISTS
    23 30 ALVIN & THE CHIPMUNKS RHINO 8,431
    THE SQUEAKQUEL
    20 31 MICHAEL BUBLE REPRISE 7,368
    CRAZY LOVE
    24 32 MELANIE FIONA SRC/UNIVERSAL MOTOWN 7,122
    THE BRIDGE
    44 33 NICKELBACK ROADRUNNER

  105. NOW IN: 36.20%

    LW TW artist / album label power index
    26 1 LADY ANTEBELLUM CAPITOL NASHVILLE/EMI 81,461
    LADY ANTEBELLUM
    2 2 LADY ANTEBELLUM CAPITOL NASHVILLE/EMI 81,461
    NEED YOU NOW
    — 3 BLAKE SHELTON WARNER BROS. NASHVILLE 43,229
    HILLBILLY BONE
    1 4 SADE EPIC 37,032
    SOLDIER OF LOVE
    4 5 BLACK EYED PEAS INTERSCOPE 31,247
    E.N.D. (ENERGY NEVER DIES)
    5 6 LADY GAGA INTERSCOPE 29,830
    FAME
    — 7 EASTON CORBIN MERCURY 25,756
    EASTON CORBIN
    — 8 DANNY GOKEY 19/RCA NASHVILLE 19,601
    MY BEST DAYS

    11 9 JUSTIN BIEBER ISLAND/IDJMG 19,446
    MY WORLD
    7 10 KE$HA KEMOSABE/RCA/RMG 17,333
    ANIMAL

    8 18 SUSAN BOYLE COLUMBIA 14,067
    I DREAMED A DREAM

    22 26 CARRIE UNDERWOOD 19/ARISTA NASHVILLE 9,069
    PLAY ON

    — 39 DAUGHTRY 19/RCA/RMG 5,337
    LEAVE THIS TOWN

    48 45 ADAM LAMBERT 19/RCA/RMG 4,467
    FOR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT

  106. Based on the HDD #s – Danny seems to be around what I expected – in the Top 10 but less than 80K

  107. LW TW
    48 45 ADAM LAMBERT 19/RCA/RMG 4,467
    FOR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT

    Looks like ADam may increase his sales from last week. Crossing fingers.

  108. J9BT : OK, question: Chicago 103.5 Kissfm (wksc)has it on their playlist (#104 TW, #46 LW), but It’s never been officially added.. I requested it a few times and they said they would play it. (never listened to hear it)… Anyway, 3 other Chicago stations played LLWD pretty heavily a few months back but have slowed up… I guess I don’t understand how “Adds” versus “playlists” work…

    Jill, I’m not an expert on this (those of you who are, please chime in), but there are some stations who will officially report songs they’ve added, and others don’t report. For those who don’t report, mediabase (I think that’s the source) will automatically consider the song added if there has been a minimum number of weekly plays for some period of time (a few weeks? not totally sure on that).

    I’ve seen stations who have played LLWD around 8-11 times/week who don’t officially report the add, but then mediabase automatically considers it added.

    I was specifically talking about higher market stations for Pop, not HAC (where LLWD has reached #6, and even #5 mid-week once). I would think that if WKSC played LLWD around 10 times/week for a few weeks, that it would have been auto added by now, so I’m guessing that hasn’t happened. I could be wrong, though.

    For LLWD, it seems as though the stations that manually added it, play it more often, although I’m sure that’s not true in every case. I did note that stations that are more rhythmic leaning may not add LLWD, but the point I was originally making is the song is missing major Top 40 markets for POP (because it’s not as rhythmic a song) yet still has made it to #11, which I think is amazing.

  109. alaadam:
    03/08/2010 at 2:02 pm
    LW TW
    48 45 ADAM LAMBERT 19/RCA/RMG 4,467
    FOR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT

    Looks like ADam may increase his sales from last week. Crossing fingers.

    Probably in part because of the Leno bounce – that would be great!

    That’s one thing that sucks about his extended overseas promo – of course the int’l PR is great for sales overseas, but it means less exposure in the US for a little while. Though with WWFM doing well, that should help as well.

  110. I think that Danny should make Top 10 when all of the reports come in. It will be interesting to see what happens with some of the other artists, like Lifehouse, Jason DeRulo and also the movie soundtrack Almost Alice, all which are in the 20’s but will definitely move up to Top 10 once all the reports come in. I think that it’s a good chance that everyone/almost everyone will land where HDD predicted.

  111. HDD has Danny as #7 on the chart now, still with 36.20% of the reports in.

  112. Well I just looked at the adds for LLWD, and 4 CAC stations popped up LOL! Plus one HAC, one AC and one Top 40.

    Of the 7 adds, 6 seem to be auto-adds. Most of those stations had spins in the 8-14 per week range, with one exception – Indianapolis who spun LLWD 35 times last week.

    WWFM also got the Indianapolis auto-add, and had 25 spins there last week. 2 of the other 3 adds for WWFM were auto adds – both HAC. There was one other add for WWFM on AC.

    Scars has 3 adds so far, 2 auto adds. All are Top 40.

  113. MBD has 10 adds today, 9 auto adds, all on Country. Looks like that song is making great progress!

  114. Well I just looked at the adds for LLWD, and 4 CAC stations popped up LOL! Plus one HAC, one AC and one Top 40.

    LLWD has charted on CAC, and it definitely has a message that would fit there so it’s not surprising. I look at the CAC stuff as a bonus because of the type of song that LLWD is.

  115. HDD has Danny as #7 on the chart now, still with 36.20% of the reports in.

    Yeah, in fact not just Danny but the others are seeing a rank adjustment as well.

    Here is the chart again with the adjustments. Not all of the ones listed got a rank adjustment. (#2-#10, #18, #26) You can see the adjustments here:

    NOW IN: 36.20%

    LW TW artist / album label power index
    2 1 LADY ANTEBELLUM CAPITOL NASHVILLE/EMI 81,461
    NEED YOU NOW
    — 2 BLAKE SHELTON WARNER BROS. NASHVILLE 43,229
    HILLBILLY BONE
    1 3 SADE EPIC 37,032
    SOLDIER OF LOVE
    4 4 BLACK EYED PEAS INTERSCOPE 31,247
    E.N.D. (ENERGY NEVER DIES)
    5 5 LADY GAGA INTERSCOPE 29,830
    FAME
    — 6 EASTON CORBIN MERCURY 25,756
    EASTON CORBIN
    — 7 DANNY GOKEY 19/RCA NASHVILLE 19,601
    MY BEST DAYS

    11 8 JUSTIN BIEBER ISLAND/IDJMG 19,446
    MY WORLD
    7 9 KE$HA KEMOSABE/RCA/RMG 17,333
    ANIMAL
    12 10 LADY GAGA INTERSCOPE 17,239
    FAME MONSTER (EP)

    8 17 SUSAN BOYLE COLUMBIA 14,067
    I DREAMED A DREAM

    22 25 CARRIE UNDERWOOD 19/ARISTA NASHVILLE 9,069
    PLAY ON

    — 39 DAUGHTRY 19/RCA/RMG 5,337
    LEAVE THIS TOWN

    48 45 ADAM LAMBERT 19/RCA/RMG 4,467
    FOR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT

  116. Danny should definitely make the TOP 10. base on the sals numbers and the % of outlets reporting, right now he’d be on pace to sell somewhere between 55-60K.

  117. Reminder:

    Arguing about the fandom of various Idol bloggers? Way off topic. Let’s stick to discussing the numbers.

  118. I guess I was overestimating Danny at 75k.

    Adam should come in close to last week, maybe a little higher.

    That’s one thing that sucks about his extended overseas promo – of course the int’l PR is great for sales overseas, but it means less exposure in the US for a little while. Though with WWFM doing well, that should help as well.

    Well, even glittery aliens can’t be in all places at once. lol. As long as he’s selling international while he’s promoting, I don’t care where the sales come from :)

  119. Danny should definitely make the TOP 10. base on the sals numbers and the % of outlets reporting, right now he’d be on pace to sell somewhere between 55-60K.

    Doesn’t work that way because by that logic Blake Shelton would be on pace to sell almost 120k. He’s projected to sell 70-75k. The 1st update favored Blake, Easton Corbin, and other core country acts because it was Walmart. According to Billboard.biz, Blake’s EP was priced at $4.99 at Walmart and with that being where country acts sell the bigger percent of their albums, he sold a higher percent of what he’s going to end up selling at Walmart. Target also sold his EP at $4.99 but Best Buy had it at $6.99 and for 6 songs you can bet Best Buy wasn’t selling a lot of his EP. Amazon and i-Tunes had Blake’s EP at $5.99 which is why he also won’t do as well there.

    Danny’ll do better in later updates compared to the country acts, especially the i-Tunes updates – he’s selling off AI moreso than country radio play. I don’t think Easton Corbin who is selling exclusively off country radio play (if he had any TV appearances last week I missed them) will end up outselling him this week bc I think Easton’s best seller was Walmart and that’s in already.

  120. Chicagolaw:
    03/08/2010 at 1:45 pm
    LLWD is getting a TON of airplay from the major HAC station in Chicago (The Mix), and has for months.

    My point with 101.9 (the mix), was only that is has significantly reduced spins compared to say Dec. – when it hosted “Miracle on State St.) – The Fray and Kris Allen… They use to spin it around 40+X/week… Now it’s more like 20x/week…
    and I really never expect 103.5 to spin it, but I guess I was wishful thinking because they played the heck out of KOL, and Kelly C. both of which I don’t exactly fit it there… Oh yeah, and just forget B96 – not a chance…They only played club remixes of KOL, and Kelly C…..LOL at those..

    Thanks J9BT

  121. Danny’ll do better in later updates compared to the country acts, especially the i-Tunes updates – he’s selling off AI moreso than country radio play. I don’t think Easton Corbin who is selling exclusively off country radio play (if he had any TV appearances last week I missed them) will end up outselling him this week bc I think Easton’s best seller was Walmart and that’s in already.

    I think we’ve discussed ad nauseum in the past that iTunes is not as improtant in the overall picture for sales as it would seem. It is great for Danny that he hit #1 on itunes but I don’t think it will necessarily propel him upwards in sales to go much higher then was initially predicted.

  122. Just a slight rank change for a few not all. Looking at the previous listing, only SuBo got the rank change.

    NOW IN: 37.17%

    LW TW artist / album label power index
    2 1 LADY ANTEBELLUM CAPITOL NASHVILLE/EMI 81,461
    NEED YOU NOW
    — 2 BLAKE SHELTON WARNER BROS. NASHVILLE 43,229
    HILLBILLY BONE
    1 3 SADE EPIC 37,032
    SOLDIER OF LOVE
    4 4 BLACK EYED PEAS INTERSCOPE 31,247
    E.N.D. (ENERGY NEVER DIES)
    5 5 LADY GAGA INTERSCOPE 29,830
    FAME
    — 6 EASTON CORBIN MERCURY 25,756
    EASTON CORBIN
    — 7 DANNY GOKEY 19/RCA NASHVILLE 19,601
    MY BEST DAYS

    11 8 JUSTIN BIEBER ISLAND/IDJMG 19,446
    MY WORLD
    7 9 KE$HA KEMOSABE/RCA/RMG 17,333
    ANIMAL
    12 10 LADY GAGA INTERSCOPE 17,239
    FAME MONSTER (EP)

    8 18 SUSAN BOYLE COLUMBIA 14,067
    I DREAMED A DREAM

    22 26 CARRIE UNDERWOOD 19/ARISTA NASHVILLE 9,069
    PLAY ON

    – 39 DAUGHTRY 19/RCA/RMG 5,337
    LEAVE THIS TOWN

    48 45 ADAM LAMBERT 19/RCA/RMG 4,467
    FOR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT

    ETA: Carrie got a rank change as well.

  123. I think we’ve discussed ad nauseum in the past that iTunes is not as improtant in the overall picture for sales as it would seem. It is great for Danny that he hit #1 on itunes but I don’t think it will necessarily propel him upwards in sales to go much higher then was initially predicted.

    You missed my point. Country acts usually have their sales concentrated heavily at Walmart. Bc Danny’s selling off AI moreso than country radio play, his sales are less likely to be concentrated at Walmart and more likely to be distributed across other stores compared to country acts. In other words he will have a higher percentage of his sales coming from i-Tunes and Best Buy than Blake Shelton or Easton Corbin (who will have a higher percentage of their sales coming from Walmart than Danny).

    That doesn’t mean Danny’ll vault past either of them. But I’d be surprised if Easton were able to outsell Danny seeing as new country acts usually don’t sell that much out of the gate if they don’t have name recognition to go with a radio hit.

    By the way the adjustment on the charts was just bc HDD had put Lady A’s 2 albums in the top 2 spots with the exact same number of sales. That was a mistake. Lady A’s debut album’s sales are now corrected and it’s at #30 on the chart.

  124. I was just saying what Danny was on pace for, based on what has already come in. I don’t know what Danny will end up actually selling, although to be honest, 55-60 K seems about right to me maybe even a tad high. HDD had him projected at 40-50K a few days ago, right? Throw in a small bump off the AI appearance, and 50-60K seems reasonable.

  125. I was just saying what Danny was on pace for, based on what has already come in. I don’t know what Danny will end up actually selling, although to be honest, 55-60 K seems about right to me maybe even a tad high. HDD had him projected at 40-50K a few days ago, right? Throw in a small bump off the AI appearance, and 50-60K seems reasonable.

    I’ve thought that 60K seemed about right for Danny on his debut week – it shows that he will do well, but I do think his adjustment to country is going to be interesting to watch since for a long time it wasn’t where people thought he would go.

  126. I was just saying what Danny was on pace for, based on what has already come in. I don’t know what Danny will end up actually selling, although to be honest, 55-60 K seems about right to me maybe even a tad high. HDD had him projected at 40-50K a few days ago, right? Throw in a small bump off the AI appearance, and 50-60K seems reasonable.

    Yeah, a 25K bump from Idol seems like an unusually high amount. I agree +5-10 K is more likely.

  127. Doesn’t look likely that Cumulus will be adding WWFM to HAC this week. Baby steps, lol

  128. Doesn’t look likely that Cumulus will be adding WWFM to HAC this week. Baby steps, lol

    They haven’t reported yet…

  129. They haven’t reported yet…

    There’s hope! Where can you check who’s reported?

  130. Well, even glittery aliens can’t be in all places at once. lol. As long as he’s selling international while he’s promoting, I don’t care where the sales come from

    LOL – too true! I’m just selfish in always wanting him in the US on my tv :-)

    But it seems the overseas promo is going really well – doing well in Australia and Japan right now. Looking forward to the UK promo as well!

  131. man, Danny’s got 18 adds listed — just 1 being an automatic add. I noticed that are few of these are actually from the end of last week rather than today, but that is still really impressive.

    With 4 Christian AC stations adding LLWD today, I was wondering — you think Danny’s management will submit MBD to Christian stations? It seems like a natural fit for that format

  132. Kelly’s got 4 Hot AC and 1 Top 40 add for her new single so far today

  133. With 4 Christian AC stations adding LLWD today, I was wondering — you think Danny’s management will submit MBD to Christian stations? It seems like a natural fit for that format

    Was LLWD actually submitted to the Christian stations? I know it’s been added and charted on and off, but was it specifically sent for adds?

    I do think MBD has some of the same cross-over appeal for Christian radio that LLWD does, so I think it could be interesting if it did get sent to the Christian stations.

  134. Thanks saga. Interesting looking at the adds today, doesn’t seem to be a big week across the board. Great for Kelly too!

  135. With 4 Christian AC stations adding LLWD today, I was wondering — you think Danny’s management will submit MBD to Christian stations? It seems like a natural fit for that format

    Good call – I would definitely think of Danny’s song as a good fit on CAC.

  136. sr4mjc
    “Well, even glittery aliens can’t be in all places at once. lol. As long as he’s selling international while he’s promoting, I don’t care where the sales come from”

    I agree with you, I don’t care if his sales are coming from the states or internationally, just that he’s selling albums and singles somewhere. It looks like he’s going to have another good week in Canada, he has to be getting close to both FYE and WWFM going gold. Doing well in New Zealand, both album and single. He’s starting to sell in Australia and Japan, so everything is all glitter and rainbows.

  137. luvadamlambert:
    03/08/2010 at 3:52 pm
    Still no dc adds
    “Anyway I told ya world domination would work!”

    Your right Luv, world domination all the way. If you look at Japan’s amazon best sellers, Adam is #1 and the import if #27. I can’t wait till he get’s there, they will love him.

  138. luvadamlambert:
    03/08/2010 at 3:52 pm
    Still no dc adds

    Anyway I told ya world domination would work!

    Yep – DC sucks :-(

    And yeah, he seems to be doing well overseas! Yea! Not too surprised, I think he will do well in Japan too when he goes over there.

  139. Wow, 18 adds for Danny; woohoo! I guess having his album out is helping; either because it is selling well (in country) or because there is buzz. Hopefully this will help him get into the top 30 (he’s 32 now) and start really being played more.

    I highly doubt Sony would submit MBD to Christian radio. IMO, its not very christian pop anyway and I think they are trying to concentrate on Danny being country.

    The only overtly gospel-ish song on the album is I Still Believe; which interestingly enough has been charting by itself in the top itunes 200. I suppose radio could pick it up on their own? I know a few light rock stations have played a couple of his other songs on their own.

    I don’t really understand HDD predictions. Brian Mansfield seemed pretty confident MBD would “Blow By 50k”. But at 37% in; he only has 19,000. Maybe they don’t have any preorders in there either?
    Its a mystery to me.

  140. Wow, 18 adds for Danny; woohoo! I guess having his album out is helping; either because it is selling well (in country) or because there is buzz. Hopefully this will help him get into the top 30 (he’s 32 now) and start really being played more.

    I highly doubt Sony would submit MBD to Christian radio. IMO, its not very christian pop anyway and I think they are trying to concentrate on Danny being country.

    The only overtly gospel-ish song on the album is I Still Believe; which interestingly enough has been charting by itself in the top itunes 200. I suppose radio could pick it up on their own? I know a few light rock stations have played a couple of his other songs on their own.

    I don’t really understand HDD predictions. Brian Mansfield seemed pretty confident MBD would “Blow By 50k”. But at 37% in; he only has 19,000. Maybe they don’t have any preorders in there either?
    Its a mystery to me.

    I do believe that the buzz around his album is helped him get all these adds. Hopefully if he has amount of sales this week, that will give him more buzz and more stations will be get on board and add his song.

    Also I wonder if/how the sales from his official site will be factored in. I believe that these sales are through the Sony store, I hope they will be factored in his sales total. And hopefully places like Barnes and Noble also report his CD sales to HDD as well. I’m not sure how some of this works

  141. indigobunting

    Brian Mansfield was just guessing as to what Danny’s sales would look like. He doesn’t have inside access to the information HDD does.

    And it doesn’t have to be a gospel type song to be played on Christian radio. LLWD certainly isn’t a gospel sounding song, yet it’s done well on Cristian radio. I’d say MBD is just as applicable to Christian radio, if not more, than LLWD

  142. And it doesn’t have to be a gospel type song to be played on Christian radio. LLWD certainly isn’t a gospel sounding song, yet it’s done well on Cristian radio. I’d say MBD is just as applicable to Christian radio, if not more, than LLWD

    I do remember Father Beck (is that his name?) on ABC News naming a few songs he felt should be on everyone’s playlist (or something like that) – just before Christmas time I think. He named LLWD as one of those songs with a great message. There was a song by Tupak too (don’t remember it).

    If a priest or minister is going on a national news station promoting a song, I guess the Christian stations will listen whether or not the label officially goes for adds. When I put lol on my earlier comment, I didn’t mean it couldn’t be a Christian song, I was just highly anticipating Top 40 and HAC adds and saw those 4 Christian adds, which I wasn’t expecting!

    I agree that many of Danny’s songs could be a fit for Christian music stations, including MBD.

  143. I don’t really understand HDD predictions. Brian Mansfield seemed pretty confident MBD would “Blow By 50k”. But at 37% in; he only has 19,000. Maybe they don’t have any preorders in there either?
    Its a mystery to me.

    I don’t understand the predictions either, but if a huge seller like Walmart hasn’t reported, and most of the sales come from that store, then that could explain why the early report results are off from the predictions and final numbers. I think it’s very possible for Danny’s album to blow past 50K.

  144. I put the info in the headlines thread, but Kris is starting to get a bunch of gigs in July, August and September now.

  145. I don’t understand the predictions either, but if a huge seller like Walmart hasn’t reported, and most of the sales come from that store, then that could explain why the early report results are off from the predictions and final numbers. I think it’s very possible for Danny’s album to blow past 50K.

    Yes, an important thing to remember is that with the HDD prediction, the % is only % of locations reporting, not % of sales in – so I know with some artists, they have a very large chunk coming from one particular segment (Kesha and itunes, for instance) – so you can’t just go by the % reporting. Otherwise we’d always just be able to say, well, 1/3 in, so multiply the current total by 3 – doesn’t work (exactly) like that.

  146. Thanks for the list girlygirl- really appreciate it- not that I can go to them but its great to see him doing many varied things.
    The only other news would be to hear about a bit of a tour rather than just a few random gigs!!

    I just love it that LLWD is still working the charts & this week will go Platinum!! Yay!!

  147. I know that many of you have been thru this album sales stuff with Kris and Adam and I have lots of questions. Do the sales from the official site count and who reports them to Neilsen soundscan? Also, do Itunes, Amazon, etc usually come last and how do people know that these first reports came from Walmart and where is Best Buy in the mix since Danny has done lots of signing of CD’s at Best Buy. Also, Danny sold at least 1,000 CD’s at his hometown concert, who reports those sales? Anyone have answers?

  148. 8 HAC Adds for WWFM today, 1 AC, 1 Top 40 ! No Cumulus this week for HAC.

  149. sr4mjc:
    03/08/2010 at 2:59 pm
    Doesn’t look likely that Cumulus will be adding WWFM to HAC this week. Baby steps, lol

    I can be patient with Cumulus HAC. The AI is low so – no biggie.. I can wait.

  150. who reports those sales? Anyone have answers?

    Monte; add to that- what about the “illegal” 1000 sales that came before his CD was supposed to go on sale? Do those count toward the total and chart position?

  151. Adds:

    MBD – 18 (all Country)
    All I Ever Wanted – 16 (13 Hot AC, 2 Top 40, 1 Canadian Hot AC)
    WWFM – 11 (8 Hot AC, 2 Top 40, 1 AC)
    LLWD – 9 (4 Christian AC, 2 Hot AC, 2 AC, 1 Top 40)
    Scars – 3 (all Top 40)

  152. afternoon iTunes update:

    #21 LLWD
    #25 WWFM
    #38 MBD
    (All I Ever Wanted and Scars not in Top 1000)

  153. I agree that many of Danny’s songs could be a fit for Christian music stations, including MBD.

    You could be right! I don’t listen to Christian radio so don’t really know what they play.

    I had assumed they were playing LLWD because it is a cover of a Script song (don’t they sing a lot of Christian songs?).

    But if they just pick and choose songs with inspirational messages, even if they aren’t overtly religious, then you are probably right- Danny does have a couple positive inspirational songs and one more overtly religious (I Still Believe).

  154. Allison’s new single Scars now has an add date, according to FMQB.com — and it’s tomorrow (Tuesday). Welcome news. I hope they give her a Hot AC add date as well.

  155. Well Cumulus TOP 40 isn’t waiting to spin WWFM. So much for worrying they might add it but not spin it. Kansas City has already spun it 28 times since adding it last week.

  156. HITSDD: Former Idol contestant Danny Gokey’s first album will debut Top 5 this week. Keep checking back for updated totals http://tinyurl.com/rl79 7 minutes ago via web

    Wow. Could it be more than 50K?

    Whatever the exact number is, that will be awesome for Danny, especially when not a small number of stores seem to have under-stocked his album.

    And 18 new adds for country stations is great news as well. In addition to any buzz from the AI9 appearance and early album sale projections, could be also Danny is reaping some benefit from his performance at the Country Radio Seminar 2010 event in front of a lot of country radio peeps. That was the event where Michael Sarver was there and able to watch Danny performing several of his songs with full band; Michael stated that Danny “blew it out of the water.” Granted Michael would be biased, but GAC, some Nashville bloggers, and various random people I read on twitter seemed to confirm Danny had a very strong appearance although no video or audio ever became available. Possibly in combination with the other factors, it’s moved some country radio programmers off the fence.

    Plus — Danny has really been earning his way up the country radio charts. He’s now #32 on mediabase and #29 on Billboard this week? That’s from the product he put out, and a lot of hard touring day after day, often several stops a day singing mini-concerts and doing interview after interview.

    I’m not envisioning that RCA will submit MBD to CCM stations, or AC for that matter, as they’ve all along been very focused on getting Danny credibly established as a country artist by courting country radio and media. Whenever they think about crossover opportunities, I suspect it will be some degree down the road.

  157. Wow and if MBD keeps building the way it is Danny can end up selling crapload of albums in the longrun. Country fans tend to buy albums more than singles. Awesome for him!

  158. I’m not envisioning that RCA will submit MBD to CCM stations, or AC for that matter, as they’ve all along been very focused on getting Danny credibly established as a country artist by courting country radio and media.

    Do the Idol’s labels ever send things/push adds on AC? I thought that was always the format that everyone shrugged aside and let do their own thing.

  159. I read at another site that Sony is sending out a pretty decent sized load of additional albums. Danny seems to be confirming that in his twitter as well. Hopefully they feel confident there is plenty more demand for Danny’s CD.

    And have to say, it is so nice of that doctor in Alaska who buys AI CDs for fans of the various finalists. She already got some hundreds for Danny fans through amazon.com, and today she’s taking on another pretty large set of requests for iTunes copies of the album. If Danny ever has the good fortune to see his album go gold, he should dedicate at least honorable mention to her :)

  160. And have to say, it is so nice of that doctor in Alaska who buys AI CDs for fans of the various finalists.

    She is amazing. I know she is primarily an Adam fan; but I have seen her buy for all top 4.

    Wow. Could it be more than 50K?

    Last week the Johnny Cash debut sold 54k for the #3 spot, Lady GaGa 48k for the #5 spot. Although I think there is a lot more competition this week, with the Lifehouse, Alice album and the cheap Blake Shelton EP (seems like as more go this way they should make a seperate category. Doesn’t seem fair to compare sales of a $4 or$5 disc to a $10-$13 disc.

  161. indigobunting

    It may not seem fair but it is what it is. When Kris and Adam saw their albums drop they were going up against Bieber and Gaga, both of whom had EPs (Gaga) or albums with fewer tracks (Bieber) selling for way less $$. And Jason Castro’s EP got a boost by going up against more expensive albums. So until/unless they decide separate the charts into LPs/EPs, what are ya gonna d, you know?

  162. where does it say on HDD that Danny is going to debut Top 5? That link just goes to the building chart. And the news section is all about the Oscars. Can someone link the artcle where it says Danny will debut Top 5? Thanks much!

  163. So until/unless they decide separate the charts into LPs/EPs, what are ya gonna d, you know?

    Many people are saying that EPs are going to get a lot more popular; so I really think they should differentiate between an EP and Full length in the future. Unless everything goes EP; which personally, I don’t like.

  164. I can see EPs as a way forward. They can still record enough songs for a full length CD and just release them in 4-5 song sets every few months. They will probably make more money that way too. 3 EPs at $5 each is more money in the studio’s pockets than selling one CD for $10.

    Also, granted only one year of this but I don’t buy the stores are out of Danny’s CD stuff. I saw it with Kris and with Adam when their CDs came out. I think it’s just fan bases trying to make an artist seem more “popular”. I remember seeing no Adam CDs at my local Target but it’s just one store. I don’t think it makes a big difference in the long term. For all the “stores are out” CDs, you’d think they would’ve sold more than they did. I mean SuBo sold millions and stores weren’t out of her CDs.

    I know Danny tweeted about it but, IMO, the guy does like to pimp himself, or as others might say “exaggerate”. He is in country so I do expect him to sell alot of CDs during his career though.

  165. Also, granted only one year of this but I don’t buy the stores are out of Danny’s CD stuff.

    It is true, no made up fan stuff. In fact there is a cute video from a teen girl (posted earlier) about how they went to 3 stores.

    He is predicted by HDD to debut in the top 5 last week. So obviously he’s been moving some CDS.

    Fans are not happy about it; we want stores to have his CD; his sales could have been even better had they had it. Some Wal Marts didn’t even order it at all. Hopefully fans will return this week to purchase it.

    Its not about him selling like S.Boyle; its about unexpected demand exceeding supply-many stores only stocked 8 copies.

    Brian Mansfield from USA today agrees; he called DAnny’s CD the “Tickle Me Elmo” of March CD sales. LOL!

  166. I am having a hard time following the hype about where an album falls on the *hit* list. I know it is great seeing your favorite on the top but the main buying public has no idea or cares where an album is on the charts. There are too many variables for me to put a lot of stock as to where they fall each week. (like who released that week….what time of year…what month etc.) I think if you are in the top 50 then it may show a good thing…maybe even in the top 25 but the other….eh. I think for those here it is important but in the *real* world I think people pay little attention. Twittering things has less validity ….there is too much nonsense on it.
    This is NOT a statement made for any idols benefit or to disparage the success of any one in particular…..for me it is just fun to watch but not to base a success of an artist on it. Except for someone like runaway Sue….man what a success in album sales. Does it equal her talent….not in my opinion.

  167. My local Walmart still doesn’t have Allison, Kris or Adam’s cd and hasn’t for months. I don’t think they’ll ever stock them. They do have Subo though!

  168. lorismile:
    03/08/2010 at 7:49 pm
    Well Cumulus TOP 40 isn’t waiting to spin WWFM. So much for worrying they might add it but not spin it. Kansas City has already spun it 28 times since adding it last week.

    That is awesome news! And just saw the WWFM adds for yesterday – very happy :-)

    To think of how nervous and frustrated I was just a few weeks ago – Oh, Adam rollercoaster, when will you end?

  169. I am having a hard time following the hype about where an album falls on the *hit* list. I know it is great seeing your favorite on the top but the main buying public has no idea or cares where an album is on the charts.

    I think it is just fun seeing your favorites name (and that little picture of their album when they are #1) on that iTunes main page! Its fun to open it up for a full week and see them listed. Of course, doesn’t equate to huge sales; esp. in March- much lower sales month than Christmas. I disagree about the public- before Idol I always check the top singles, albums on iTunes, take a listen, and see if I like. I have actually bought stuff that way.

    Where it is important; to the record label. You can bet they are interested to hear their artist (and will publicize) debuted in the top 5 on Billboard. Keeping your record label happy is important in keeping your contract =)

  170. Do the sales from the official site count and who reports them to Neilsen soundscan?

    Yes. As long as the seller has registered with Nielsen Soundscan it can report sales.

    Also, do Itunes, Amazon, etc usually come last and how do people know that these first reports came from Walmart and where is Best Buy in the mix since Danny has done lots of signing of CD’s at Best Buy.

    I don’t think we know for sure when i-Tunes and Amazon report. It used to be in the middle around the mid to late 50% update but they’ve changed the order.

    The reason we know the 1st reports came from Walmart is that in the past we’ve seen Walmart exclusives chart with the 1st update and then not gain much in later updates. There’s also the logic that with Walmart selling at least 1/3 if not more of total country CD sales (it’s probably more these days), the 1st update favoring country albums so much is a good sign that the 1st update is Walmart.

    Best Buy is another big box that has not reported yet so those #s are still out there. That’s part of the reason I was saying that Danny would sell a higher percent of his CDs at stores other than Walmart. Easton Corbin sold more than him at Walmart but is not predicted to sell more copies total than Danny this week.

    If you look back at HDD’s Friday preview they basically had Danny coming in at #5 though there were a bunch of albums that were predicted to sell in the same 45-50k range as him. So if HDD’s now saying he’ll be top 5 then none of those trended past him. The predicted #4 album was the Alice In Wonderland soundtrack with 60-65k.

    Stock is an issue for every artist except the ones who are so blockbuster (SuBo, Taylor Swift) that the stores make sure they’ve got tons of their albums. I’m not saying it’s not a legitimate concern for Danny, I’m saying it’s an issue for near everybody. Since i-Tunes and Amazon are options lack of stock isn’t as much a sales depressant as it used to be.

  171. Stock is an issue for every artist except the ones who are so blockbuster (SuBo, Taylor Swift) that the stores make sure they’ve got tons of their albums. I’m not saying it’s not a legitimate concern for Danny, I’m saying it’s an issue for near everybody. Since i-Tunes and Amazon are options lack of stock isn’t as much a sales depressant as it used to be.

    I never even thought of the stock issue until recently when I bought one of the few cds I ever buy: went to Borders to get Lady Gaga’s Fame Monster deluxe, and they only had The Fame – then tried the Best Buy nearby and it was another fail.

    So, just bought it on itunes instead – it actually was a much better deal there, because what’s great about itunes is that they discount the disc by however many singles you’ve already bought – so you’re not double-buying anything.

  172. Stores keep stocking CD’s if there is demand. The week Susan Boyle’s CD came out I had to search 3 stores to find it because it was sold out everywhere. Then by the next week (and STILL) its always stocked. Stores are stocking it because there’s still a demand, same for Biebers CD which I always see on endcaps. CD’s that fall out of the Top 10/20 quickly or worse yet the Top 100 arent going to see tons of stock in stores. I haven’t seen Danny’s in stores this week and I havent seen Kris or Allison’s in several weeks.

  173. Since i-Tunes and Amazon are options lack of stock isn’t as much a sales depressant as it used to be.

    This is true; although lack of stock is more important for Country artists, who sell more physical CDs in proportion to others.

    But Danny has a lot of sales from his AI experience and obviously did well on iTunes, so that might not be as much of an issue for him.

    I just know it was poorly planned. I live in Milwaukee; where he is hugely popular. My Target only received 8 copies, sold out before noon. Our Walmart had about 6 copies left that evening from his two slots. Easton and Blake had 3 slots each-Easton only half full; Blake quite full. I bought mine at Best Buy; they had 8 copies left at noon on the day of his release; they must have received more. This may all be fine in other cities; but Milwaukee???

  174. There is an art to shipping CDS to the stores the first week. Stores don’t want to over order because they’re stuck with them and return policies vary. It is possible that the stores underordered Danny’s CD because in general S8 sales have been a little meh. But I can’t see it as a dealbreaker. If there is a demand for the CD, the stores will just order more.

    Having an album high on the charts gives you bragging rights and makes for nice PR. They can promo his single/album with best selling artist – yadda yadda.

  175. In general with the biz in such decline, stores will stock the top 20 albums and maybe the top 50. Fall out of that and your CD will be a little harder to find.

  176. Oh, Adam rollercoaster, when will you end?

    Never I say never, I love a good rollercoaster:)

  177. I know Danny tweeted about it but, IMO, the guy does like to pimp himself, or as others might say “exaggerate”.

    He tweeted about it because he was getting slammed with tweets from worried fans. I don’t believe it’s possible that this was a well-orchestrated conspiracy to try to fake out people into thinking that he was doing well. There was a lot of distress about it. Why would his fanbase make stuff up to try to make him seem more “popular”? That would be a stupid thing to do, the numbers will be published soon and then everyone will know them. Sales numbers are facts, not opinions. If people couldn’t get it on this week’s shopping trip, they’ll get it next week. But of course there always is excitement about the first week’s sales. It sounds as if Danny is going to come out of the gate very strong anyway, so maybe it will turn out to be a good thing if some of the demand got deferred until later.

  178. Why would his fanbase make stuff up to try to make him seem more “popular”?

    After following Adam around for a year, trust me, I’ve seen fanbases do incredibly stupid things.

    But of course there always is excitement about the first week’s sales. It sounds as if Danny is going to come out of the gate very strong anyway,

    It is always exciting to see your favorite on any chart. :-) I did say I thought Danny would give Kris a run for his money regarding the number of units sold the first week.

    Regarding Brian Mansfield, he’s to Danny what Jim Cantiello is to Kris and Lyndsey Parker is to Adam, so I take it with a grain of salt.

  179. *

    Regarding Brian Mansfield, he’s to Danny what Jim Cantiello is to Kris and Lyndsey Parker is to Adam, so I take it with a grain of salt.

    I would say Brian is much less overt about favoring Danny (or should I say exuberant? than Jamba Jim and Lyndsey) but I think overall you are correct!

  180. Regarding Brian Mansfield, he’s to Danny what Jim Cantiello is to Kris and Lyndsey Parker is to Adam, so I take it with a grain of salt.

    I actually just take it in as an interesting point of input. As a finance person I pretty much drag a boulder of salt around with me when it comes to forecasts. There may have been an exception or two but for the most part, Danny’s fans have been cautious about sales predictions. For one thing, most of us don’t want him to feel any more pressure than he already feels, and also, the retaliatory lashing out that that kind of thing provokes is not generally considered to be something that is useful for any purpose.

  181. I actually just take it in as an interesting point of input. As a finance person I pretty much drag a boulder of salt around with me when it comes to forecasts. There may have been an exception or two but for the most part, Danny’s fans have been cautious about sales predictions.

    I’m talking about Danny being the “tickle me elmo”, not about Brian’s sales predictions.

    I would say Brian is much less overt about favoring Danny (or should I say exuberant?

    Maybe, but isn’t Danny the only one who Brian streamed the music of on his blog??? Seems like alot of “exuberance” to me. Danny was a huge favorite, I don’t know why people would be surprised he would sell well. Even though he thumbed his nose at country at first, he should be very lucky they wanted him. His voice is perfect for that genre.

  182. Brian Mansfield’s taken a personal liking to Danny but I don’t think he’s been anywhere near as effusive about Danny as Cantiello/Parker/Ausiello about Kradison. It’s nowhere near close. Somebody linked to Brian’s track by track discussion of Danny’s album a while ago and that’s a good example.

    If you know Brian Mansfield’s writing then you know when he’s really into something versus when he’s just trying not to be negative. He started off his review of Danny’s album with “Well he had to go somewhere” and ended by saying it was an album that was likely to appeal to Danny’s AI fans just like Kradison’s albums appealed to their fans but it was up in the air whether it would attract new fans in country (which is either a neutral statement of fact or an implication that Brian doesn’t think it will attract new fans). I don’t think he dislikes Danny’s album, don’t get me wrong. But I don’t think he thinks it’s that great. He ended up describing most of the songs on the album instead of reviewing them – he only had compliments a few times and he hid behind “Danny’s fans will like” type statements too. When he says something like “[x]’s fans will like” that’s his way of saying he’s not crazy about it but he thinks the fans will be into it. I’ve seen him do it with other AIers too including Carrie and Kellie. He tries not to be negative with acts he knows personally which usually means Nashville artists. Kristy Lee Cook was the rare exception.

    I definitely don’t think the fan comments about Danny’s album being out of stock in places are made up. The question is whether they’re representative of the whole country. I’ve read a lot of Carrie fans complaining about Play On being in short supply at their local stores. Does that mean there’s a nationwide shortage? Not necessarily.

  183. Danny was a huge favorite, I don’t know why people would be surprised he would sell well. Even though he thumbed his nose at country at first, he should be very lucky they wanted him.

    I think due to online dismissal of Danny’s talents plus online emphasis on Kradisson, a lot of people don’t expect him to do well. IN addition to his third place position; not a good place to be historically on AI. His fans always had faith he will do well in the long run; I guess we are just cautious (and surprised/ecstatic he will debut in the Billboard top 5).

    Rehash again; Danny never thumbed his nose at anything; I believe he is mixed up with Kris and Michael who have said they weren’t country. Danny said he wanted to do an R&B album with latin influences, because that is the music he recently was exposed to as well as Gospel. But he was an open book and candidly admits he didn’t really know where he should be.

    But I don’t think he thinks it’s that great. He ended up describing most of the songs on the album instead of reviewing them – he only had compliments a few times and he hid behind “Danny’s fans will like” type statements too.

    I had the impression Brian liked the album. He never gets fangirly like Parker or Jamba Jim; he’s a bit more professional than that. I think if he loved it, you would still get that type of review. As you said, that is just Brian.I think Brian is a definite supporter of Danny’s; just not OTT fangirly like Jim C and L. Parker. I actually appreciate that and think it gives him more credibility when he does like someone.

  184. I figured I should post this article here, too. I posted it in the headlines thread for today. It’s Brian Mansfield basically saying that Danny sold 14,000 digital album downloads on ITunes, and the total album sales are between 54,000 and 127,000. Congratulations, Danny! Anything in that range is very good.

    Danny Gokey’s My Best Days was the third best-selling album on iTunes last week, behind the Almost Alice compilation and Lifehouse’s Smoke & Mirrors.

    Rounding out the iTunes Top 10: Jason Derülo’s self-titled album, Lady Antebellum’s Need You Now, country singer Easton Corbin’s debut, Lady Gaga’s The Fame, Sade’s Soldier of Love, Sam Adams’ Boston’s Boy and Black Eyed Peas’ The E.N.D.

    (FWIW, last week’s three top-selling iTunes albums sold between 14,000 and 16,000 copies, with overall sales of those albums ranging from 54,000 to 127,000.)

    Full Nielsen SoundScan figures come out tomorrow.

    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/idolchatter/post/2010/03/danny-gokey-albums-ranks-third-at-itunes-for-the-week/1

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