Idol Headlines for 10/08/09

Kris Allen Song ‘Has Some Edge To It, ‘ Says Co-Writer Mat Kearney

The JFK assassination, scientology, Justin Bieber’s real age … few things are as hush-hush as the details surrounding an “American Idol” alum’s first album. But Kris Allen collaborator Mat Kearney dropped a few hints about the top-secret song he co-wrote with the “Idol” winner over the summer.

During a recent chat with MTV News, Kearney had nothing but positive things to say about working with Allen. And of the song itself, the singer/songwriter promised, “It’s pretty cool. It wasn’t, like, your typical [‘Idol’] cheesy thing.”

Although Kris Allen portrayed himself on “Idol” as a nice guy, Kearney says their song could add a little roughness to Allen’s squeaky-clean image. “It’s driving … it has some edge to it. So I hope that’s a good thing. That may make it so they don’t want to [include it on the album].”

MTV.com

More Idol Headlines after the JUMP…

Kris Allen Doesn’t Have a Title Yet. MTV News Can Help!

November 17 is rapidly approaching, and Kris Allen is working overtime to wrap up his debut album. In addition to shooting a music video for “Live Like We’re Dying” this weekend, spending time in Kevin Rudolf’s studio, and continuing to write and record music, Allen has been making the rounds doing radio interviews and an epic phoner with Entertainment Weekly. (Kris, your people have my phone number. Just sayin’.)

One of the last details Kris needs to settle on? The all-important album title!

MTV.com

ALLISON IRAHETA

‘Friday I’ll Be Over U’  (19/Jive): B+

So much for wallowing in post-breakup despair. ‘American Idol’  finalist Iraheta channels a mix of Kelly Clarkson, Joan Jett and Pink on her Max Martin-penned debut single, an infectious romp that promises listeners the 17-year-old siren will have recovered from boy drama by week’s end.

‘Monday, Tuesday, we were cool/Wednesday I found out ’bout you/Caught my heart by tellin lies/You weren’t what you advertised, ‘  she belts in her raspy pop-rock register. You can guess what’s gone down by Friday.

Boston Herald

Your weekly Idol sales fix: The album numbers

I’ve got a couple meetings today, so I’m going to post the Nielsen SoundScan sales data in two parts rather than keep you waiting all day. I’ll get the tracks info up as soon as I can (real quick — Carrie Underwood’s Cowboy Casanova, down 40 percent to 66, 000 downloads; Kris Allen’s Live Like We’re Dying, up 49 percent to nearly 24, 000), but right now, here’s the album info from last week.

USA Today

Chart Beat Wednesday: Jay Sean, Lady Gaga, Carrie Underwood

PERFECT 10: On Country Songs, Carrie Underwood ropes her 10th top 10, as “Cowboy Casanova” climbs 11-8. With the advance, Underwood now stands alone in first-place for most top 10s on the chart among solo women this decade.

Carrie Underwood

Former ‘Idol’ Says It Doesn’t Matter Who The Judges Are

Elliott Yamin has a lot on his plate. He has a new single off of his second album called ‘Can’t Keep on Loving You, ‘ and is going on tour with the USO to Guam and Okinawa. But the third-place finisher from season five of ‘American Idol’ had time to sit down and talk with us about his music, his World Series predictions, and why he thinks it doesn’t matter who sits at the judges’ table.

Popeater

Archuleta rocks Christmas from his heart

David Archuleta’s favorite memory of past Christmases was gathering his family together, donning a Santa cap and caroling to neighbors in his Murray neighborhood.

This holiday might offer a different way for the singer to carol, thanks to the release of his first album, “Christmas From the Heart, ” a follow-up to his 2008 self-titled debut that has sold nearly 1 million copies.

The shy, self-effacing teen has remained in the hearts of fans more than a year since he finished in second place on the 2008 season of Fox’s “American Idol.” That’s why his record company, Jive, jumped at his request to record a Christmas album, which will be released Oct. 13. “It was a way to give heartfelt music to people, ” Archuleta said in a phone call from his Murray home.

Salt Lake City Tribune

‘AMERICAN IDOL’ WINNER DAVID COOK TALKS ABOUT LIFE AFTER ‘IDOL, ‘ AND NOT MAKING COMPROMISES

David Cook never meant to win the seventh season of “American Idol, ” the No. 1-rated show in the United States for five consecutive seasons. He was comfortable back home in Tulsa, Okla., making music and putting off getting a real job.

Cook never even meant to audition; he went to support his younger brother, Andrew.

The younger Cook didn’t make the cut–but David did, and he went from Tulsa to Hollywood.

And now his music has taken him into the hearts, homes and ears of people around the world.

Fredricksburg.com

Taylor Swift announces second leg of `Fearless’ tour in 2010, including dates in US, Australia

The country singer says a second leg of her “Fearless” tour will kick off in Australia in February. She’ll also be playing nearly 30 cities throughout the U.S. and Canada.

“We had so much fun on the `Fearless’ tour the first time around that we decided that we had to keep going with it, ” she says. “So we will be relaunching the `Fearless’ tour in February in Australia, and then coming back and doing a bunch more cities in America.”

The 2010 tour opens Feb. 4 in Brisbane. Swift will do five shows in Australia. She’ll also be playing nearly 30 cities throughout the U.S. and Canada. Kellie Pickler and Gloriana will return as the opening acts.

Newser.com

Christmas Music Is In The Air In Nashville

Nashville, TN — Daylight savings time is still with us but Christmas is in the air for some country stars. “Now That’s What I Call A Country Christmas!” has just hit stores. It’s a a two-disc collection with 29 classic Christmas songs from big country names, dead and alive. They include Kenny Chesney, Johnny Cash, Kellie Pickler, Brad Paisley, Darius Rucker, Taylor Swift, Reba McEntire, Trace Adkins, George Strait and more.
Meantime, Lee Greenwood has announced that he’s done a Christmas album that’ll be available sometime this fall. It’s called “Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas.”

Digtriad

Worthy of ‘Idol’ worship

Seven years after Kelly Clarkson snagged the inaugural crown on the “American Idol” talent contest, it’s clear why she won in the first place — and how she’s managed to outgrow the show without alienating fans.

At the Hammerstein Ballroom, Clarkson was the perky girl next door who made it to the big time with a flexible voice that seems able to tackle anything musical. Among the highlights were her bluesy, swaying cover of Patsy Cline’s “Walking After Midnight” and her own power-pop ballad “All I Ever Wanted.”

Unlike some pretty lip-synchers in pop, Clarkson wows with her voice and personality, often sounding like a cool big sister with loads of advice.

New York Post

Original winner Clarkson continues to outshine rest

To borrow from one of her recent hits, would Kelly Clarkson’s career suck without “American Idol?”

There’s no doubt Clarkson’s breakout success was a direct product of her being the first winner of the “American Idol” franchise in 2002. But considering the diminishing returns for subsequent “Idol” winners – whatever happened to Ruben Studdard? – Clarkson’s continuing presence on the charts suggests she’s got some staying power.

Press Of Atlantic City

See Jordin Sparks at a Phoenix event for a good cause

PHOENIX — Your chance to walk down the red carpet and mingle with stars like Jordin Sparks is coming up in a few weeks.

It’s the 2nd annual Red Carpet Evening of Elegance with Jordin Sparks, benefiting the Tonya Allen Foundation and Sparks Charities on October 24th.

Jordin Sparks fans and VIPs are invited to spend the evening together for a special cause.

This year the focus is on child sex abuse.

There will be food and a silent auction. It takes place at Allen’s Bistro in Phoenix. To purchase tickets you can go to call (602) 312-2272 or go to http://www.tonyaallenfoundation.org/.

ABC15.com

‘American Idol Rewind”s Mandisa Talks About her 80-Pound Weight Loss

Mandisa Hundley has struggled with weight issues most of her life. That didn’t stop her from singing or from auditioning for the fifth season of “American Idol, ” which is currently being revisited on “American Idol Rewind, ” but it did give her pause when Simon Cowell joked that the show would need a “bigger stage” to accommodate her.

Now 80 pounds thinner, Mandisa tells ET she couldn’t believe it when “American Idol Rewind” used that moment in the premiere episode of its new season, because, in the past, that was her worst nightmare come true. But she is past it now and she tells ET why, and about her weight loss and childhood abuse.

ETOnline

Disney Channel’s Debby Ryan Set to Host the First Allykatzz Tween Summit Music Festival

NEW YORK, NY–(Marketwire – October 7, 2009) – The First National Tween Girl Summit announces the concert line-up for this year’s AllyKatzz Tween Summit Music Festival, hosted by Disney Channel’s Debby Ryan, who stars on the Disney Channel comedy series “The Suite Life on Deck” and co-stars in the feature film “The Comebacks.” Presented by Electronic Arts, Inc., the concert features American Idol finalist Brooke White, teen rock band Comic Book Heroes, and the energetic fun boy band WOW. Opening the show will be tween singers and dancers Cymphonique and Jacob Latimore. The AllyKatzz Tween Summit Music Festival is free to all Summit attendees. To register for the The Tween Summit, visit www.tweensummit.com. The Summit and the Music Festival will be held at the Historic Capital Hilton Hotel in Washington, D.C. on October 10, 2009.

Marketwire.com

Diana DeGarmo, Micky Dolenz, Alice Ripley, et al. Set for Rockers on Broadway

Tony Award winners Alice Ripley and John Lloyd Young, and American Idol alum and Toxic Avenger star Diana DeGarmo will appear alongside classic recording artists such as Lou Christie, Lesley Gore, The Monkees’ Micky Dolenz, The Rip Chords, and Gene Cornish of The Rascals in Rockers on Broadway, to be presented at BB Kings Blues Club on Monday, November 2 at 8pm. “Cousin Brucie” Morrow will host.

The event, presented by The PATH Fund, Inc. (Performing Artists That Help), is now in its 16th year. It was founded in 1993 by Donnie Kehr while appearing in the Broadway run of The Who’s Tommy. All proceeds will go to support Broadway Cares/Equity Fights AIDS and Broadway Dreams Foundation.

Theatermania

Will Jennifer Hudson be gifted with an Emmy for her upcoming Christmas special?

Jennifer Hudson Emmys TV Christmas Special Dreamgirls Oscars Grammys Entertainment News 2468097 Jennifer Hudson won an Oscar for her first film — “Dreamgirls” — and a Grammy for her self-titled debut album. Now Hudson turns to TV, headlining a Christmas special for ABC. As per the Hollywood Reporter, “‘Jennifer Hudson: I’ll Be Home for Christmas’ will air in December and feature the singer-actress reliving her childhood holidays with musical performances filmed in locations specific to her youth: the Oscar winner’s church, music academy and other Chicago locations.”

LA Times

STAGE TUBE: So You Think You Can Dance’s Ryan Kasprzak – A Dance for Life

So You Think You Can Dance contestant Ryan Kasprzak created a very special video for Dancers Responding to AIDS, we are proud to bring it to you here on STAGE TUBE.

Ryan Kasprzak recently appeared on SYTYCD Seasons 5 and 6 along with his brother, Evan. He continues to create new work with Parallel Exit: Physical Comedy Theater. Their show Cut to the Chase was nominated for a Drama Desk Award and This Way, That Way prompted the New York Times to say Kasprzak, “can get laughs simply by breathing.” Their comic tap musical Time Step premiered at the Joyce SoHo and is transferring to the New Victory Theater in April 2010. Ryan was nominated for a New York Innovative Theater Award for Outstanding Choreography and served as dance captain for the International Tour of Fosse. Ryan has been honored to perform with such legendary entertainers as Liza Minelli, Ann Reinking, Ben Vereen, Gregory Hines, Jimmy Slyde, and the Nicholas Brothers.

Broadway World

‘So You Think You Can Dance’: Viva Las Vegas!

Vegas baby, Vegas! I hope you’ll forgive me for such a trite phrase — things got real tonight on “So You Think You Can Dance.”

I love when this show demonstrates just how hard the contestants work compared with, say, “American Idol” or “America’s Next Top Model.” So you made it through to Vegas? So you made it through your second audition? Now try hip-hop with Tabitha and Napoleon D’umo! Now Latin with Louis Van Amstel! And you’re still not done after that!

LA Times

‘So You Think You Can Dance’: Love it live!

The “So You Think You Can Dance” live show will continue rolling through the country through mid-November, and last night I caught it at Chicago’s United Center. If you are interested in going and still haven’t bought tickets, a word to the wise: splurge on the good seats. Because I’m a cheapskate, I went for the second-tier seats, which would be just fine at a basketball or hockey game, but when you’re watching one tiny dancer all alone on a stage from far away, it’s kind of like watching it on TV.

Of course, if you have already bought the cheap seats, don’t despair: There’s a lot of enjoyment to be had from the show. At the United Center, at least, a full and energetic crowd was present, with plenty of audience members hollering for their favorites (Phillip Chbeeb especially getting a lot of appreciation). It’s great, too, to see the dances in full without camera cuts like on the televised version.

LA Times

EXCLUSIVE: PETA persuades ‘Dancing With the Stars’ to cancel chimpanzee act

An announcement on Monday night’s “Dancing With the Stars” revealed that a chimpanzee would be among the guest judges on the following night’s program.

But you may have noticed that there was no chimp on the show Tuesday night. Instead, a toddler was a guest judge.

Here’s how it went down: The announcement prompted PETA to ask “DWTS” executive producer Conrad Green on Tuesday to cancel the chimp appearance.

Green e-mailed PETA to say that he would re-cut Tuesday night’s segment and remove the chimpanzee and he vowed that he will never again use chimpanzees in his productions.

LA Times

Tom DeLay Takes a Bow, or Was He Pushed?

Did the producers of “Dancing With the Stars” drop a brick on Tom DeLay’s feet when he became the show’s main story line and they saw where the ratings were heading?

As the Fractured DeLay Feet drama became the main story line of the new season, viewers started their exodus.

Monday’s performance show attracted the smallest audience on record for a fall edition’s third performance episode. And Tuesday’s results show suffered the smallest audience on record for any regularly scheduled episode of the program in its entire history. This is the ninth edition of “Dancing With the Stars.”

Washington Post

Maksim Chmerkovskiy: I’m Done with Karina

Perhaps the only upside to being eliminated from Dancing with the Stars Tuesday for pro dancer Maksim Chmerkovskiy is that he won’t have to endure any more uncomfortable encounters on set with his ex- fiance, Karina Smirnoff.

“I feel completely betrayed. I’m done, ” Chmerkovskiy tells PEOPLE of his relationship with Smirnoff.

Asked why he feels betrayed, he declined to elaborate, saying only, “I don’t want to get into the specifics. Let’s just leave it at I’m done.”

People.com

DWTS’ Tom DeLay: I Haven’t Made Cheryl Burke a “Conservative” Yet

Cheryl Burke says she learned one important lesson from her former Dancing With the Stars partner Tom DeLay, who quit the show Tuesday due to a stress fracture in each of his feet.

“He taught me that politicians can dance!” she told Usmagazine.com after Tuesday’s show. “He’s got some rhythm in those hips.”

Burke, 25, added that she also learned “a little bit about politics.”

US

Debi Mazar ‘Bummed Out, ‘ Tom DeLay Promises to Dance Again

Debi Mazar was the latest contestant to be eliminated from “Dancing with the Stars, ” while Tom DeLay bowed out of the competition on Tuesday night due to stress fractures in both of his feet — but the former House Majority Leader tells ET he has plans to return!

He told ET, “I can’t wait for Cheryl [Burke] to teach me the two step and be back in the finale to do that.”

ETOnline

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616 Comments

  1. JambaJim’s recent tweet

    It’s cruel and unusual punishment to have a top secret song stuck in your head. I can’t sing it or hum it or anything. Bahhhh!

    Could it be Adam’s song or perhaps Kris’?

  2. Leave it to Lisa de Moraes, TV columnist for the Washington Post, to be humorous albeit jaded and cynical. I love it when it’s aimed at someone I dislike, it only hurts when it’s someone I like. It didn’t hurt when she turned her acerbic humor on Tom DeLay and Donnie Osmond, especially DeLay. So glad he went home! I was afraid his constituency was going to keep him on until the finals, no matter how low the judges marked him. Really that hurt foot was a godsend, and if ratings were dropping it can only help that he’s gone. LOL. Sorry to his fans. (P.S. Donny isn’t so bad, the bit with Bruno was cute, though just more evidence that Donny is a famewhore. At least he’s not Marie.)

    Also, love the upbeat articles about Kelly, she has really earned her good press. And glad that Taylor Swift and Kellie Pickler will expand their tour. Man, Australia gets a lot of tours, they must be great music lovers there. Pink loved her tour there (per her tweets).

  3. I hope that Mat and Kris’ song makes the album. I would love to hear Kris sing a song that has a bit of an edge, his attitude during his live performance of “Heartless” is one of the main reasons why that performance is so good. And I love the snarky attitude that he has on his song “I Was Played.” I know he can pull the attitude off to make the song work, but still come across as someone who’s sincere.

    Re: Jim, it’s a sure bet that the song that he heard belongs to one of the idol alums. Given his game with Slezak, it’s probably Kris, but it could be Adam or Allison’s.

  4. Loved Ryan’s tap routine for DRA. Just beautiful. I’m glad SYTYCD put him on my radar. Now, I can keep track of what this guy is doing. What a talent!

  5. I’ll be checking out some songs off Archie’s Christmas cd. Hope it does well.

  6. @iamtimyap (Tim Yap) just announced that Archie will not be able to make it the Philippines to share the stage with Katy Perry. The original rescheduled date was October 17th. David was confirmed for that date but Katy Perry was not able to work with that date, so it was rescheduled again for November 14th to accommodate her schedule. David, however, is unable to work with that new date because he needs to be in the U.S. during that time to promote his new album…

    · FINALLY! Katy Perry fund raiser CONFIRMED on Nov 14,at SM MOA! Other artists to be confirmed within the day. Will keep you updated.
    12:39 AM Oct 2nd from web

    · @DAismyhero Still waiting for other artist’s confirmation. But final date is Nov 14. If he’s free I’ll let you guys know asap
    1:21 PM Oct 4th from web in reply to DAismyhero

    · KATYPERRY fundraiser update-Because of sked,David Archuleta won’t be part of the concert. He was all set for 17thOct,but when it became Nov
    about 2 hours ago from web

    · I know that’s sad news for Archuleta fans-by Nov he has to be in the US to promote his Xmas album,that’s why he had to send his regrets
    about 2 hours ago from web

    · In lieu of Archuleta, Arnel Pineda of Journey will join Katy Perry. Still waiting for confirmation of Jabbawockeez & Nicole Scherzinger
    about 2 hours ago from web

    · @CursedLove19 Nope, David Archuleta is not coming to Manila-because of sked problems-he was supposed to come for Oct 17,but it got moved
    about 2 hours ago from web

    · @karenkid It’s circumstance.When you get artists together,it’s all about skeds.Hey,I’m just carrying the message-don’t shoot the messenger.
    about 1 hour ago from web

  7. You go girl!!!! Mandiza with an 80 lb weight loss- that is phenomenal. She is such a pretty girl. Kudos to her for dealing with the abuses in her life.

  8. onlinepastrychef
    October 8, 2009 at 10:25 am

    Loved Ryan’s tap routine for DRA. Just beautiful. I’m glad SYTYCD put him on my radar. Now, I can keep track of what this guy is doing. What a talent!

    I totally agree with you. Thanks MJ for putting this in the Headline Thread. I did not realize the extent of his talent. SYTYCD only show us snippets of what they want us to see never the whole package. His Dance for Life routine for Dancers living with Aids is Great!

  9. It’s cruel and unusual punishment to have a top secret song stuck in your head. I can’t sing it or hum it or anything. Bahhhh!

    Could it be Adam’s song or perhaps Kris’?

    My guess would be Kris.

  10. It’s cruel and unusual punishment to have a top secret song stuck in your head. I can’t sing it or hum it or anything. Bahhhh!

    Could it be Adam’s song or perhaps Kris’?

    My guess would be Kris.

    I agree. I hear FanBoy Jim’s voice in this tweet.

  11. Mandisa with an 80 lb weight loss- that is phenomenal.

    I saw her on American Idol Rewind. She noted that she was afraid to sing b/c she was sure Simon would knock her for weight. I don’t know if she did, but she is drop-dead gorgeous now, w/ the same beautiful voice she had back then. You go, girl!

  12. I hope that Mat and Kris’ song makes the album. I would love to hear Kris sing a song that has a bit of an edge

    I’m sorry, I like Mat Kearney just fine, but his music is *really* not that edgy. C’mon now…

  13. It’s cruel and unusual punishment to have a top secret song stuck in your head. I can’t sing it or hum it or anything. Bahhhh!

    Could it be Adam’s song or perhaps Kris’?

    My guess would be Kris.

    I would be very surprised if it was Adam’s.

  14. It’s cruel and unusual punishment to have a top secret song stuck in your head. I can’t sing it or hum it or anything. Bahhhh!

    Could it be Adam’s song or perhaps Kris’?

    My guess would be Kris.

    My guess too.

  15. It’s definitely Kris because in the one MTV article here he says this:

    dropped a few hints about the top-secret song he co-wrote with the ‘Idol’  winner over the summer

  16. Dancing with the Stars and it’s viewer down turn. Yeh!! This show has become such a parody of itself and the celebrities are less known and personality less each season. The dances are stale, the costumes and hairstyles become more trite, the judges comments are ridiculous, and the underlying truth is that the viewer just can’t identify or feel connected to the outcome. And what’s the point….these people are going to race headlong back into obscurity when it is over…so why get invested.

    These type of shows better serve the public by being spring and summer fill ins. I really think that is why AI has done well. The episodes that “count” don’t begin until March and by then people are bored with sit-coms and dramas…or they are headed into re-runs. I wouldn’t be surprised if SYTYCD will have terrible numbers this season and that Glee will fall off the charts very soon. All better served to be run in the Spring.

  17. Could it be Adam’s song or perhaps Kris’?

    My guess would be Kris.

    My guess too.

    My guess three. And I re-read Jim’s “five possible titles for Kris’s album.” I completely misunderstood it–he was dissing Adam.

    I like Mat Kearney a lot, but edgy is NOT one of the terms that hits me when I think of his music (e.g, Unforgettable). I like it, tho. I think it would suit Kris’s voice very well. It’s soulful.

  18. I would assume it’s a song for Kris as well.

    Adam’s songs are so closely guarded that immediately upon completion, all the writers and producers are thoroughly brainwashed so they can’t remember enough of it to stick in their heads.

    Should they refuse the brainwashing, their heads are promptly cut off.

    Thus far, the system is working quite successfully.

  19. Scans of David Archuleta with Rick Springfield in People magazine…

    Scan 1
    Scan 2

    They got the sales of Crush all wrong. Oh well, it’s still really good publicity.

  20. JambaJim’s recent tweet

    It’s cruel and unusual punishment to have a top secret song stuck in your head. I can’t sing it or hum it or anything. Bahhhh!

    Could it be Adam’s song or perhaps Kris’?

    I agree — my bet is that it’s Kris’ — probably the Mat Kearney-Kris song based on Jim’s interview of Mat about that song.

  21. Mandisa with an 80 lb weight loss- that is phenomenal.

    now whats her secret? diet coke?

  22. changed

    1) I think this is going to be a great year for SYTYCD, based on what we have seen before.

    2) I think Glee is overrated. That said, the musical numbers are cool. I am not a Rachel fan, and Finn is getting on my nerves, so more Will and Sue, please.

    3) I do not think Mat Kearney’s track will make the album, and he admitted that, too.

  23. SarahP
    Mandisa with an 80 lb weight loss- that is phenomenal.

    now whats her secret? diet coke?

    It has to be Coke or Apples (iTunes) — Idol never misses a seamless ad promo opportunity. LOL!

  24. Mat Kearney comes off like an ass in that article. So anti-Idol.

    Love the Kelly Clarkson article, she is the best.

    Dancing with the Stars is a joke. Maks needs to take a chill pill and let his private life be private. They both got a lot of mileage being interviewed about their relationship and wedding, so suck it up now and be quiet.

    Loved Ryan’s dance.

    David Cook has a great work ethic and I love his attitude towards it all. His performance style is perfect for him and I enjoy hearing about him and the band.

  25. My guess three. And I re-read Jim’s ‘five possible titles for Kris’s album.’  I completely misunderstood it’“he was dissing Adam.

    It’s so unnecessary to bring up Adam in this article. I never heard Kris mention Adam’s coming album unless he was asked so. It’s the media that is ‘too gracious’ to keep reminding the world about Adam’s album (hope that’s still true given we know nothing about the album) in articles or interviews that should focus on Kris. I don’t think Jim is dissing Adam but he was giving out credit where it doesn’t belong.

  26. Maybe the strangest thing (or the bad-writingest thing, I guess) about Cantiello’s Mat Kearney/Kris article — that Kris “portrayed himself” as “a nice guy” on Idol. … Uh, I don’t think that was a “portrayal.” I think that was, like, a fact.

    And since when does “nice guy” preclude anything “edgy”?

    Oh well, just dumb writing. Don’t know why it annoys me, but it does.

  27. CindyM: Mat Kearney comes off like an ass in that article. So anti-Idol.

    Loved this part of the article:

    And of the song itself, the singer/songwriter promised, ‘It’s pretty cool. It wasn’t, like, your typical [‘Idol’] cheesy thing.’ 

    Although Kris Allen portrayed himself on ‘Idol’  as a nice guy, Kearney says their song could add a little roughness to Allen’s squeaky-clean image. ‘It’s driving ‘ ¦ it has some edge to it.

    So Kris isn’t a “nice guy”? Well, OK that news because everyone keeps saying how Kris is such a nice guy.

    Well at least the part about “It’s driving ‘ ¦ it has some edge to it.” gave me a laugh over my morning coffee! Mat Kearney and “edge” don’t seem to belong in the same sentence to me. His most famous song, Nothing Left To Lose, had no edge. Or this All I Need.

    All joking aside, I think that Mat is a perfect collaborator for Kris and expect that their collaboration will be pretty good. But if there is an “edge” to a Mat Kearney-Kris Allen song, Kris must have brought it.

  28. Gingerly-Thanks for answereing my question..
    Sumidol–Did you go to a DC Concert if so how was it?

  29. Count my vote for the “top-secret” song in Jim’s head being from Kris.

    Maybe it’s one of these?

    KrisAllen4real

    # Just finished singing 2 songs for the record. They sound great! So much work to still be done in the next couple weeks.about 9 hours ago from Echofon

  30. I wouldn’t be surprised if SYTYCD will have terrible numbers this season and that Glee will fall off the charts very soon. All better served to be run in the Spring.


    Tess
    , why do you say that about Glee? It’s one of the shows that I thought I was the only one who didn’t care for it. Are there others?

  31. JambaJim’s recent tweet

    It’s cruel and unusual punishment to have a top secret song stuck in your head. I can’t sing it or hum it or anything. Bahhhh!

    Could it be Adam’s song or perhaps Kris’?

    No way Cantiello would have heard Adam’s song before any of dozens others who have not mentioned a word. With that said, his wording has Kris written all over it. He continues to keep Kris’s music in the forefront of everyone’s mind.

  32. I wouldn’t be surprised if SYTYCD will have terrible numbers this season and that Glee will fall off the charts very soon. All better served to be run in the Spring.

    I love Glee and from what I have been reading it is one of the blockbuster series this season. I don’t think you will see Glee fall off the charts. There is just something about that show…..special and the kids are so talented. As for SYTYCD….I haven’t started watching Sept season yet. I wasn’t impressed with the last season. It was missing that wow factor. I have to admit I am finding that in SYTYCD Canada.

  33. Pretty soon everyone most of season 8 will be in LA

    Meganjoysings why oh why 630 am? Welp… LA here I come :) LETS DO THIS……

    Adam
    Allison
    Anoop
    Kris
    Megan

  34. Tess, why do you say that about Glee? It’s one of the shows that I thought I was the only one who didn’t care for it. Are there others?

    I was one of the one’s that really enjoyed the first episode of glee…but by the second one and the wife’s phony pregnancy I just started to look at it as a really dumb soap opera…and it has gotten worse story lines each week. And the singing numbers are slowly moving down hill with every performance (Kirstin Chenoweth being the only bright spot).

  35. No way Cantiello would have heard Adam’s song before any of dozens others who have not mentioned a word. With that said, his wording has Kris written all over it. He continues to keep Kris’s music in the forefront of everyone’s mind.

    Yeah, didn’t Slezak say that he had already heard 4 Kris songs? So I wouldn’t be surprised if Cantiello has access to those as well. So I’m pretty sure he would be talking about Kris here.

  36. I wouldn’t be surprised if SYTYCD will have terrible numbers this season and that Glee will fall off the charts very soon. All better served to be run in the Spring.

    Tess, why do you say that about Glee? It’s one of the shows that I thought I was the only one who didn’t care for it. Are there others?

    I’ve tried to get into it – have yet to watch a full episode.

  37. suebrody: And I re-read Jim’s ‘five possible titles for Kris’s album.’  I completely misunderstood it’“he was dissing Adam.

    No, he wasn’t dissing Adam — he was trying to be funny, plus we all know that Jim loves Kris. And IMO being a Kris fanboy is not dissing Adam. You want to see what dissing Adam looks like, read the comments on VFTW — now that is dissing!

    And Jim was really making fun of/whining about the same small handful of Adam fans who keep emailing reporters about conspiracy stories and how Adam really won, and posting comments all over the web.

    4. Not Adam Lambert
    The humble dude has always been a gracious winner, especially after topping Lambert back in May. (“Idol” message boards just exploded, by the way.) But perhaps Kris has been too gracious. The last thing he needs to do is remind the world that Adam Lambert’s release is just around the corner. Keep the spotlight on yourself, mate. You earned it, even if 15 very vocal (and very annoying) conspiracy theorists are still screaming about power voting

    .

  38. I’ve tried to get into it ‘“ have yet to watch a full episode.

    I got more into last night’s ep. The mash-ups were a lot of fun (and I really miss mash-ups – those used to be so big…)

    I’m generally not as into the story – the characters are not quite rich enough or interesting enough to get heavily invested in. Rachel, for instance, is not the most likable lead imo. But I am loving the Will/Emma romance – very very cute. And that wife makes a great (though somewhat OTT) villain.

  39. 4. Not Adam Lambert
    The humble dude has always been a gracious winner, especially after topping Lambert back in May. (‘ Idol’  message boards just exploded, by the way.) But perhaps Kris has been too gracious. The last thing he needs to do is remind the world that Adam Lambert’s release is just around the corner. Keep the spotlight on yourself, mate.

    See, what I didn’t understand about this point of Jim’s, was that – if he’s telling Kris to distance himself from Adam and NOT bring up comparisons to him, or “remind the world that Adam’s release is just around the corner” – why name the album “Not Adam Lambert”?

    I know it was a joke, and while I didn’t really find it anti-Adam per se, I didn’t really get the humor to it either. Ehh. Whatevs.

  40. Article that includes The Magic Rainbow:

    http://blogs.tennessean.com/tunein/2009/10/07/taylor-swift-jack-white-others-net-nashville-music-awards/

    The awards also shone a light on a few local behind-the-scenes figures who are closely associated with some of music’s biggest names. Nashville songsmith Liz Rose, who’s written numerous hit songs with Swift including her current smash ‘You Belong With Me,’  was named songwriter of the year. American Idol champ David Cook‘s ‘Time of My Life,’  which was written by Nashville’s Regie Hamm, took home the award for Song of the Year.”

    Hey, I like the suggestion there that David Cook is included in “some of music’s biggest names.”

  41. I may watch Glee on the internet but it doesn’t hold a candle to Law and Order SUV (and they aren’t on the internet) so sadly glee looses. That is why I think it would be better off as a spring/summer series.

    And the farther I get into it the more I think some of the characters are pretty miscast. I think Rachael is silly, Finn is boring, the wife is wooden, the coach is ludicrous. Now some of the actors are fine, Will and Emma, the gay kid, the black girl. It’s just so uneven.

  42. suebrody: And I re-read Jim’s ‘five possible titles for Kris’s album.’  I completely misunderstood it’“he was dissing Adam.

    No, he wasn’t dissing Adam ‘” he was trying to be funny, plus we all know that Jim loves Kris. And IMO being a Kris fanboy is not dissing Adam. You want to see what dissing Adam looks like, read the comments on VFTW ‘” now that is dissing!

    Even if he was trying to be funny, it still was an indirect diss to Adam, via his fans. I can see his interview with Adam (should he get one). It will be like that ONTD girl who hated Adam and huge Kris fan – working Kris into the entire interview, some back-handed compliments, but funny.

  43. why name the album ‘Not Adam Lambert’ ?

    He’s saying DON’T name the album “Not Adam Lambert.”

    Yeah, if you have to work this hard to understand the joke, it loses something in translation.

  44. BTW, weren’t there supposed to be some big announcements about now re Giraud and Sarver?

  45. About Jim’s article…

    just another gratutious AL mention to get hits.

  46. (hums Time of My Life waltzing around the living room)

    I am really, really convinced that when my son graduates from high school many years from now… that they’ll play Magic Rainbows. Hee! Who would’ve thunk it :)

  47. I love the Magic Rainbow song partly because I remember David singing it with a big smile and tears in his eyes on the finale. It was a beautiful moment.

  48. He’s saying DON’T name the album ‘Not Adam Lambert.’ 

    Yeah, if you have to work this hard to understand the joke, it loses something in translation.

    Oh – I read the article yesterday, but must have just skimmed it and missed the “avoid these titles” thing. Got it.

    Ok, good point though about: if you’ve gotta think that much about double negatives in the joke (Don’t name the album Not Adam Lambert) – it probably isn’t worth it.

  49. See, what I didn’t understand about this point of Jim’s, was that ‘“ if he’s telling Kris to distance himself from Adam and NOT bring up comparisons to him, or ‘remind the world that Adam’s release is just around the corner’  ‘“ why name the album ‘Not Adam Lambert’ ?

    I know it was a joke, and while I didn’t really find it anti-Adam per se, I didn’t really get the humor to it either. Ehh. Whatevs.

    Jim is not that great a writer. … Or, more to the point, I suppose, Jim is that sloppy a writer.

    Saying stuff he doesn’t mean, meaning stuff he doesn’t say, throwing stuff in for no reason, etc. Not an impressive performer, given the very high-profile gig he’s got.

  50. Perhaps my expectations for GLEE were too high. I had hoped it would fill the void left behind by PUSHING DAISIES.

  51. Speaking of making music videos, as Kris is doing — and this is going to be a very bad segue (what does Andrew Cook call it on his radio show? Terrible transitions?) — anyway, on a non-music message board I “hang” on, someone posted the following link to what are called “literal videos.” Has anyone seen these? They’re a hoot. They play off of the music videos that were so prominent in decades past, but I’m sure they are just as relevant today.

    Just for the sake of levity, here’s the one for “Total Eclipse of the Heart” that’s on youtube. On the side of the page, there are links to others.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj-x9ygQEGA

  52. 4. Not Adam Lambert
    The humble dude has always been a gracious winner, especially after topping Lambert back in May. (‘ Idol’  message boards just exploded, by the way.) But perhaps Kris has been too gracious. The last thing he needs to do is remind the world that Adam Lambert’s release is just around the corner. Keep the spotlight on yourself, mate.

    Talk about a self defeating paragraph. LOL Jim is so crap at his job.

    He’s telling the world that Adam has all the focus, that Kris doesn’t know how to market himself, and that people still think that the vote was rigged and Adam should have won. Unless that was his original purpose in writing this little homily, then I think the man is an idiot.
    Imo, Jim should take his own advice and try very hard to keep the focus of Kris articles on Kris. LOL

  53. I didn’t read Jim’s words as a diss to Adam at all. He was making a joke about what NOT to name Kris’ album. He did, however, diss 15 of Adam’s OTT fans (and he stressed 15 to indicate it was an extremely small, almost non-existent, yet very vocal, minority). I’m sure he has first hand experience with them.

    ETA: I guess I don’t look at people like Jim and Slezak with the same kind of eye that I do “hard-news” journalists. They write entertainment articles. They’re meant to be light hearted and fun; not prize winning reporting.

  54. Imo, Jim should take his own advice and try very hard to keep the focus of Kris articles about Kris. LOL

    Yeah, this may be more to my point earlier (even if I messed up the original wording of Jim’s article) – but why make the point of – “hey, it shouldn’t be all about Adam! Kris is great too and stands on his own and is his own person! Oh, and I’m going to keep mentioning Adam in the same article!”

    Kinda going against the point he’s trying to make – so Jim would probably serve Kris a lot better by just writing all-Kris articles without the Adam mentions.

  55. 4. Not Adam Lambert
    The humble dude has always been a gracious winner, especially after topping Lambert back in May. (‘ Idol’  message boards just exploded, by the way.) But perhaps Kris has been too gracious. The last thing he needs to do is remind the world that Adam Lambert’s release is just around the corner. Keep the spotlight on yourself, mate.

    Yeah, weird how Jim feels the need to say that Kris needs to distance himself from Adam, by bringing up Adam when talking about Kris. Like if you don’t want the media bringing up Adam, hint hint, here is an excellent place to start. And unless asked, Kris doesn’t bring up Adam, he’s focused, and rightly so, on his music and most interviews stick to that these days.

    Oh well, glad that Jim is excited about Kris, and considering that Slezak has also heard some music, maybe they can share with each other any time they want to hum one of Kris’s songs.

  56. Squirrely
    October 8, 2009 at 12:19 pm
    Sunn explain Jim C’s meat tweet ‘“ LOL

    LOL, That one is self explanatory surely, isn’t it?

  57. Yeah, this may be more to my point earlier (even if I messed up the original wording of Jim’s article) ‘“ but why make the point of ‘“ ‘hey, it shouldn’t be all about Adam! Kris is great too and stands on his own and is his own person! Oh, and I’m going to keep mentioning Adam in the same article!’ 

    He basically threw Kris a pity party. LOL Which is not very flattering to Kris.

  58. After being played on the X-Factor, Daughtry’s “What About Now” is currently #7 at the UK iTunes chart! Also, there’s a rumor going around (from UK’s BBC Radio 1) that Westlife will be doing a cover of Daughtry’s “What About Now” and release it in the UK.

  59. If there is an announcement, trust me, Sarver will tweet it! Several times. Except that Tweeter is down now, so he will have to wait. Sorry, Michael. Am very excited about Matty G’s prospects, however. #signmattgiraud may trend again.

    I love ToML. I really do. It’s partly b/c I will never forget how adorable it was when Cook sang it last year on the finale, and partly b/c, hell, I like it, and aside from the “magic rainbow,” I think it’s just a nice song. It’s 100x better than NoBo and This Is My Now, at any rate.

    BTW, I got a shout out from VFTW last night. ;) It was entertaining, I have to say. So they don’t always take themselves too seriously, and it looks like Felicia Barton has some opportunities on the horizon.

  60. Yeah, weird how Jim feels the need to say that Kris needs to distance himself from Adam, by bringing up Adam when talking about Kris.

    LOL. I have a headache now … thank you, Jim C.

  61. ToML is the best corantion song ever, I do like Fantasia’s and Adam’s version of their songs but ToML is the best. Did David A record it as well or just David C?

    ETA:

    I will never forget how adorable it was when Cook sang it last year on the finale

    Great moment.

  62. New tweet…

    @thedavidcook Back To Work Today. Will you cooperate, throat? Say it’s so…

    Someone better tell his throat MJ’s show is coming up!

  63. Please cooperate, David Cook’s throat. I have shows on Sunday and Tuesday and real life has me most stressed out and I could really use the happy :)

  64. If there is an announcement, trust me, Sarver will tweet it! Several times. Except that Tweeter is down now, so he will have to wait. Sorry, Michael. Am very excited about Matty G’s prospects, however. #signmattgiraud may trend again.

    Matt has talked about a lot of writing and even studio sessions in the last few weeks, which definitely has me thinking he’s either signed (or about to be), or at least taking some major initiatives to capitalize on the AI buzz now and make some music to shop around. I wish him the best.

    I joked with some friends on twitter that I think he already has more gigs lined up than Adam ;-) (That we know of, of course)

    I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Michael also gets signed, and to a country label at that. I’m not expecting anyone else to be, though, unless it’s much further down the road (like 2010) and to independent labels.

  65. @thedavidcook Back To Work Today. Will you cooperate, throat? Say it’s so’ ¦

    Someone better tell his throat MJ’s show is coming up!

    I am going, too. :(

  66. I guess I don’t look at people like Jim and Slezak with the same kind of eye that I do ‘hard-news’  journalists. They write entertainment articles. They’re meant to be light hearted and fun; not prize winning reporting.

    ITA. And that little piece–a blog entry, not on the main news page–was meant to be lighthearted and fun. There’s nothing there worthy of being analyzed to the nth degree.

    But, this is Idol we’re talking about. I’m sure Jim is used to the angry tweets by now. lol.

  67. I joked with some friends on twitter that I think he already has more gigs lined up than Adam (That we know of, of course)

    Mary102, Matt could have one gig lined up, and he would have more than Adam. So frustrating.

  68. “I just want to put out good music. I’m not out to push an agenda or anything. I just want to put out good records and play good shows.”

    The above is a quote from the David Cook article and is one of the reasons I am such a fan. I hope his throat is good to go by tomorrow.

  69. Someone gets Adam QOTA fast forward to 10/16. LOL. Now if only Adam’s song can be leaked out as easy…

  70. Kinda going against the point he’s trying to make ‘“ so Jim would probably serve Kris a lot better by just writing all-Kris articles without the Adam mentions.

    As could everyone else in the known universe… and vice versa.

    This “can’t mention one without mentioning the other” thing has become truly annoying to me. I guess it happened last year with the Davids to an extent, but honestly I don’t remember it being this pervasive.

    If there is some reason that they both need to be discussed as in articles about Idol in general it’s fine. But I would really like to see more pieces where only one of them is talked about.

    Given how these places earn their money I suppose that is a pipe dream- it seems the more keywords are crammed in equals more hits and God knows that is more important than the quality of the writing.
    Annoying.

  71. Does anybody remember that there is supposed to be a live chat with Michael today? I hope some people show up to chat.

  72. The QOTD seemed like an old interview cut into pieces.

    Come on Adam give me something else cause this ain’t cutting it…

  73. Mary102, Matt could have one gig lined up, and he would have more than Adam. So frustrating.

    LOL! By my count (and I haven’t been following Matt really closely, but I do get his tweets), he has 2 gigs lined up (one in November and one in the Winter (I think) – which would put him ahead of Adam’s one (GMA). Not counting the private gigs that both of them did (though I guess you could count Matt’s most recent private gig, since that was possibly a “less private” thing than Adam’s NO gig.)

    And not wanting to send everyone in a panic, because I am SURE Adam has more lined up that is just under wraps right now. :-) It’s all good!

  74. This ‘can’t mention one without mentioning the other’  thing has become truly annoying to me.

    It is annoying, but it will never end. The kid who won Adam Lambert’s season of American Idol will be linked to Lambert for the rest of his life. Eighty years from now, something about Lambert will be on the kid’s gravestone. It’s his cross to bear. His curse. His deal with the devil.

  75. Does anybody remember that there is supposed to be a live chat with Michael today? I hope some people show up to chat.

    You can tell us all about it. Or not.

  76. Does anybody remember that there is supposed to be a live chat with Michael today? I hope some people show up to chat.

    He tweeted about it today:

    michaelsarver1 RT @AINow: Less Than 7 Hours Until Our LIVE Chat With Michael Sarver (@michaelsarver1) Today http://retwt.me/xVHn – Don’t Miss It!!!!

    It’s at 4pm EST.

  77. Just returned from an appointment where I hear “Time of My Life” over the radio! Congratulations again to the Magic Rainbow and the wonderful David Cook who brought it to life.

  78. According to the AMA press release the annoucements will take place at 9:30 am in Beverly Hills so that’s 11:30 Eastern time.

    Shallow moment: I wonder if Adam will be all glammed up? I’m sure Snoop and Paula will be blinged out.

  79. @thedavidcook Back To Work Today. Will you cooperate, throat? Say it’s so’ ¦

    He doesn’t have a show until tomorrow, right? I wonder what he’s back to work at today. Maybe rehearsals, since writing sessions wouldn’t require his throat?

    Also, I’m thinking, no worries about your show, suebrody and MJ. DC’s a trooper, and he’s had a few days to recoup. When he canceled those 2 shows to say good-bye to Adam, he pretty much confirmed that he almost never cancels shows, and would never do it if he didn’t absolutely have to. I think he said something like, in his 10-year music career he’d only ever canceled one show or something. And of the 120-plus dates he’s played on this tour, the three cancellations were all related to Adam. I’ll bet my nonexistent farm he’ll pull through and not disappoint fans :).

    There’s nothing there worthy of being analyzed to the nth degree.
    But, this is Idol we’re talking about. I’m sure Jim is used to the angry tweets by now.

    I got Jim C’s joke about advising Kris not to name his album “not Adam Lambert”. I thought he was making a fair point, and not dissing, purposely or inadvertently, either Kris or Adam. It’s a widely held opinion that Kris is the “overshadowed” AI winner, and most of the media does treat him as, “not Adam Lambert”, or “the kid who won over Adam Lambert”. Jim’s making fun of that a little, and saying, hey Kris, I know you’re the humble, laid back guy who would be only too happy to divert the spotlight on the “deserving” Adam, but don’t forget that this album is about you. That’s not a diss to Adam, and I don’t consider it a diss to Kris either to bring up a pretty widely-held opinion (Adam has more buzz). Maybe Jim could’ve not mentioned Adam at all, and that would’ve served Kris better, but to me, he’s being actually *more* objective by addressing the obvious.

  80. ITA. And that little piece’“a blog entry, not on the main news page’“was meant to be lighthearted and fun. There’s nothing there worthy of being analyzed to the nth degree.

    LOL! Oh, you know us, MJ! We’ll spend 10 pages discussing the use of exclamation points in an Adam tweet ;-)

  81. Mat Kearney and ‘edge’  don’t seem to belong in the same sentence to me. His most famous song, Nothing Left To Lose, had no edge.

    Aw, come on. The “Nothing Left to Lose” video has hitchhiking, crappy motels and coffeeshops, Quik-E Mart hotdogs, truckstops, frayed jeans, bad weather, pollution… That’s not edgy? Especially the Quik-E Mart hotdogs?

  82. mj
    October 8, 2009 at 12:44 pm

    ITA. And that little piece’“a blog entry, not on the main news page’“was meant to be lighthearted and fun. There’s nothing there worthy of being analyzed to the nth degree.

    But, this is Idol we’re talking about. I’m sure Jim is used to the angry tweets by now. lol.

    Exactly. It was funny. I think the reason some may not understand why it would be funny to a Kris fan, is because they probably aren’t keeping up with “Kris news” very closely. The reason he brought it up in the first place is b/c Kris is so secretive. He won’t divulge anything, so instead of playing the pointless game of “Name this Album”, JC decided to offer a few snarky suggestions of what NOT to name it. (all his suggestions sere playing off things that would be familiar to fans….his previous suggestion of “Little Rock”) By saying “Not Adam Lambert”, I think that he’s just poking a little fun at (the admittedly few, yet prolific) Adam fans who like to suggest that all Kris’s success (however large or small) is entirely due to Adam. (“coattail sales, Kradam, applause for duets, sympathy votes, or even anti-gay issues…meaning not liking Kris per se…just anti-AL) That comes across as fairly condescending, and that’s what Jim was making fun of, not Adam himself.

    I thought the article was funny, and Jim is a very good entertainment writer.

  83. I love TOML. Makes me want to sway like a swaybot. The lyrics are kind of cheesy but David sells that song. It makes me happy every time I hear it ~which was yesterday at my kids dentist appointment!

  84. Shallow moment: I wonder if Adam will be all glammed up? I’m sure Snoop and Paula will be blinged out.

    Is there any doubt? Anything less and I would be sorely disappointed ;-)

  85. It looks to me like Jim was making a joke and he was being lighthearted about the fact that you can’t mention Kris without referencing Adam. I remember being annoyed last year when most of the news media treated Archie like a co-winner or so I thought at the time but I must admit I was looking at it through a fans lens. Now I don’t care at all. They are successful in their chosen genres and they do not compete with each other. It was only Idol that made us look at them side by side.

  86. I know it is the nature of the beast and I know that my dreams are unrealistic but someday I want every American Idol alum to be disassociated from every other Idol and for no one to ever refer to AI when introducing them, speaking about them, interviewing them, reviewing them, or marketing them.

    But then everyone has their cross to bear: Johnny Depp and Jump Street, Justin T. and Disney, Tom Hanks and Bosom Buddies, Ron Howard and Opie, Christine Aguilera and Star Search and the list goes on. Oh well, you don’t think of Cher without Sonny, Michael w/o the Jacksons, John or Paul w/o the Beatles. Guess I just need a thicker skin.

  87. The kid who won Adam Lambert’s season of American Idol will be linked to Lambert for the rest of his life. Eighty years from now, something about Lambert will be on the kid’s gravestone. It’s his cross to bear. His curse. His deal with the devil.

    Nah. I think it’s only that way to fans who can’t let it go that Adam lost, don’t you think? Three, four years from now they’ll be off doing their own thing and people who weren’t invested in the season will only think tangentially of how both guys got their big breaks on the same show. Or for many of them (as I did with Carrie) — that they even came from the show. Since I didn’t start following AI religiously until S7, other than Kelly, I didn’t know when various contestants who are now on the radio or news came off the show. I knew JHud was on but I couldn’t tell you until probably 6 months after S7 what season she was originally on and therefore who was her competition. I only knew about Fantasia being on AI because of that TV movie about her life. Honestly, few people care enough to know or follow these things other than the seriously invested like us. Even if this stuff made the mags, I just flipped through the articles because I never cared until S7.

  88. Is the AMA announcement really going to be @9:30 a.m.? Seems kind of late in the day.

  89. After being played on the X-Factor, Daughtry’s ‘What About Now’  is currently #7 at the UK iTunes chart! Also, there’s a rumor going around (from UK’s BBC Radio 1) that Westlife will be doing a cover of Daughtry’s ‘What About Now’  and release it in the UK.

    Seriously? Good job, RCA. It only took ya three years. At this rate, David Cook will be breaking into the U.K. market in 2012.

    I love TOML. Makes me want to sway like a swaybot. The lyrics are kind of cheesy but David sells that song. It makes me happy every time hear it ~which was yesterday at my kids dentist appointment!

    Wait a minute, what is it about ToML and dental offices? Does it put one in an hypnotic state so patients don’t need/or mind getting novocaine? Maybe it should get an honorary award at the ADA Convention.

  90. Read an Adam article lately?

    Heh. Read a David vs. David article lately? Granted, a lot of the DC and Archie articles nowadays don’t mention the other guy anymore (phew), but some still do, and anytime an article comes out that compares the two in any way, the vocal contingent of either fanbase will come out to play. Seriously, STILL. It’s ridic. The two guys aren’t even comparable.

    I’m finding there are no innocent fan groups.

    Yup, see above. That said, Jim is right. It’s not 15, but the “vocal” contingent is always small. (I love that vocal is a euphemism for deranged. We’re so PC…heh)

  91. I’m sure there are some really funny jokes that can be said about that, I can’t wait!!

    I’ll come here for really funny jokes rather than count on Jim for that.

  92. David Cook’s Friday show is sold out. Don’t know about the one after. I know he’ll try his darndest to put on a great show no matter what, like he always does

    PS – I read a David Cook article the other day online and most of the comments were from Archie fans who felt he was dissed. I wish it would end. But, the two Davids seem to handle it fine.

  93. I thought Jim’s fluff piece was pretty funny. Adam’s more zealous fans seem to bring him up in the comments section of any article about Kris anyway, so might as well go for the pre-emptive strike!

  94. Heh. Read a David vs. David article lately? Granted, a lot of the DC and Archie articles nowadays don’t mention the other guy anymore (phew), but some still do, and anytime an article comes out that compares the two in any way, the vocal contingent of either fanbase will come out to play. Seriously, STILL. It’s ridic. The two guys aren’t even comparable.

    LOL, I agree. I’m new to all this. I watched Season 7 and was a big Cook fan, but wasn’t really that invested. Does it ever stop??

  95. According to the AMA press release the annoucements will take place at 9:30 am in Beverly Hills so that’s 11:30 Eastern time.

    Squirrely, Isn’t Pacific 3 hrs diff from Eastern? It sure seemed like I was staying up pretty late for those concerts.

  96. Don’t be dissing 21 Jump Street – that was my show!

    ETA: but on that note, Leonardo DiCaprio won’t even discuss Growing Pains.

  97. Dancing with the Stars and it’s viewer down turn. Yeh!! This show has become such a parody of itself and the celebrities are less known and personality less each season.

    This show used to be in my DVR schedule. But, the one-two punch of off the charts obnoxiousness brought by Marie Osmond and Chloris Leachman pretty much turned me off. Although, I did watch a little of last year.

    Now – I just watch the videos of the ones I like here at MJ’s. I’m not allowing another Osmond to take up space in my DVR. And, Aaron Carter has long-held a place on my “celebrities I’d like to punch in the face” list.

    Although, I will admit that I am a card-carrying Glee-lover :)

  98. Cantiello is just light fluff, not to be taken seriously….

    But I get what everyone else is saying, what was the point to begin with? He tries too hard to be funny and fails 70% of the time,IMO

    60 seconds Jim, 60 seconds is gold, the rest…..meh

  99. I thought Jim’s fluff piece was pretty funny. Adam’s more zealous fans seem to bring him up in the comments section of any article about Kris anyway, so might as well go for the pre-emptive strike!

    In every Adam article, Kris fans try to minimize Adam’s talent/musicianship because he doesn’t play an instrument.

  100. According to the AMA press release the annoucements will take place at 9:30 am in Beverly Hills so that’s 11:30 Eastern time.

    Squirrely, Isn’t Pacific 3 hrs diff from Eastern? It sure seemed like I was staying up pretty late for those concerts.

    It is 3 hours – I was thinking we were out of daylight savings – sure feels like it

  101. One thing that fans can remember is that David and Archie are friends and support each other. Neither one has ever said a bad thing about the other. David Cook has said to fans that have told him they like Archie better that he does too. I get that same feeling from Adam and Kris so fans should take a cue from them on how to behave.

  102. David Cook’s Friday show is sold out. Don’t know about the one after. I know he’ll try his darndest to put on a great show no matter what, like he always does.

    In terms of the multiple concert goers, eh. They’ve had their day. You just want David to be in his best shape for people like MJ who have never seen him live, have heard how good he is, and have been looking forward to their one and only show.

    I thought Jim’s fluff piece was pretty funny. Adam’s more zealous fans seem to bring him up in the comments section of any article about Kris anyway, so might as well go for the pre-emptive strike!

    I thank the heavens every day that Lambert and Cook weren’t on AI in the same season, because — fanbase wise — that would not have been pretty.

  103. As a fan of both Adam and Kris, reading the comments in articles about either is headache inducing. Fanwars? Seriously people? Among adults, grown-ups? ……. I got nothing else to say about it.

  104. wow, what’s with Twitter? This is an awfully long time to be down. About 3 hrs. If this were scheduled, shouldn’t they have made some sort of announcement?

  105. As a fan of both Adam and Kris, reading the comments in articles about either is headache inducing. Fanwars? Seriously people? Among adults, grown-ups? ‘ ¦’ ¦. I got nothing else to say about it.

    Totally with you there. Plus, the success or reputation of a total stranger should not matter enough to make you spew venom all over the interwebs. Peeps should save that over-protectiveness for the real live, flesh and blood people in their daily lives. Otherwise, it does make one look somewhat deranged to the uninvested.

  106. Shallow moment: I wonder if Adam will be all glammed up? I’m sure Snoop and Paula will be blinged out.

    Apparently my definition of “glammed up” is different than yours:

    Glammed Up

  107. BestAI, since I don’t follow Adam’s press, I wouldn’t know. I thought he did play piano or something?

  108. My twitter is not down.

    I can get into Twitter but the last tweet that shows up is 3 hrs old. I’m following about 300 people so that’s a little strange.

  109. Three, four years from now they’ll be off doing their own thing and people who weren’t invested in the season will only think tangentially of how both guys got their big breaks on the same show.

    Not in this case, no. I don’t think so.

  110. Sunn and I have DM’ed. We want our Twitter. Even a Michael tweet!

    Funny, I was thinking about Cook and Adam, b/c I voted very hard for both of them, and they are my favorite contestants ever (followed by Kris, Daughtry, Blake, and Kelly). So it would have gotten fugly. Don’t want to go there. At least with the David’s there were, I think, very distinct populations of voters who liked one (Cook, me) and the other (Archie, my niece). With Adam and Kris, it was not really skewed. In fact, I voted for both of them until Top 4. Glad I didn’t have to choose between Cook and Adam, or I might have had to stop watching.

  111. It is 3 hours ‘“ I was thinking we were out of daylight savings ‘“ sure feels like it

    It’s always a 3 hours difference.

  112. wow, what’s with Twitter? This is an awfully long time to be down. About 3 hrs. If this were scheduled, shouldn’t they have made some sort of announcement?

    Maybe still dealing with Miley Cyrus loss. She left twitter…!

  113. I thank the heavens every day that Lambert and Cook weren’t on AI in the same season, because ‘” fanbase wise ‘” that would not have been pretty.

    That would have been interesting!(since Cook was my fave in AI 7) I would have still pulled for Adam, but would have understood the alternate outcome easier. It’s all good now, but I would have come to that conclusion faster.

  114. ETA: but on that note, Leonardo DiCaprio won’t even discuss Growing Pains.
    Squirrely- Leo was on Growing Pains?!

  115. I like Jim article (re: not Adam Lambert title). I’m a big Kris fan and I find this hilarious. He’s making fun of and it’s a reflection of a certain overreacting little segment of the idol fans…

  116. Twitter:

    I just googled and Twitter has confirmed their Timeline Update System is down.

    Here is a site that let’s you know if another site is down:

    isthisdown.com

  117. We all have our “thresholds” and its tough not to rise to the bait when someone uses keywords that “we know” are just ways of dissing our favs. Buttons are so easily pushed! And because I try to be a good girl here at MJs I may visit another site, occasionally and anonymously, and really allow myself to be mean and hateful and spiteful and to say all the angry things welling up inside myself, not about the Idol but about the “stupid” fans that haven’t got a clue outside of the game (and no Miss Scarlet wasn’t in the library with the Candlestick–move on).

    We all know what the keywords are: musical, text votes, homophobic, religious right, singer/songwriter, theatrical, OTT, judges save, arranger, original, under the bus, album sales, chart position, radio plays, need I go on? But, really and truly, even though we see this in the tiny little world of AI it really goes on in the real world, too. And at least we don’t take out guns and shoot each other like opposing forces do in the world of Urban Rap…now that’s seriously over-invested fandom.

  118. ETA: but on that note, Leonardo DiCaprio won’t even discuss Growing Pains.
    Squirrely- Leo was on Growing Pains?!

    Several episodes. I don’t think he should be embarrassed or anything by his performance there.

  119. Interesting side note: I have on Adam Lambert radio on last fm.

    So far I have heard:
    Adam
    Matt
    Megan twice (ugh)
    Carrie
    Allison
    Kris
    KLC
    Cook
    Axium
    And…FERRAS (LOL) I am sure Aimee Mayo is next ;)

  120. BestAI, since I don’t follow Adam’s press, I wouldn’t know. I thought he did play piano or something?

    Adam says he does not play any instruments (he may play a little, but not enough to claim he does). However, in the comments section of Adam articles, Kris fans say Kris is a real musician because he plays numerous instruments, and Adam is not because he doesn’t play anything. Those are actually the kinder comments.

  121. It is 3 hours ‘“ I was thinking we were out of daylight savings ‘“ sure feels like it

    It’s always a 3 hours difference.

    Well L.A. to NY, sure! but not for say NY to AZ. Sorry, just random fact and because they piss me off because of it when I talk to AZ people and I have to say ‘well we’ll call you…depending on whether the rest of the country will be doing DLS and your failbot state, isn’t, as to whether that will be a two or three hour difference.’ Sorry, it’s just so fail-y.

    And yeah, Cook and Adam in one season would have been epically bad for the fanbase stuff *shudders in fear thinking about it* Though I would have liked both, giving the edge to Adam for me, and I think both would have been friendly to each other as well.

  122. Adam and Kris will be brought up in connection with each other for a while but ultimately they should be able to break apart. But at least for now they are stuck together – similar to Cook and Archie still being brough up together.

    As for Cook and Adam being on the same season, I also think Cook and Kris would have been insane on the same season. Most people joke about Kris not having fans but I think he actually did something very similar to Cook, in coming from basically no background/backstory and building his fans through the season. If you ever go back to early comments from S8 people could never believe Kris was always safe (Top 13 for example, no one wanted to believe that he had more votes than Anoop and when he did some of his rearrangements there were many people upset that Matt wasn’t doing similar things.) Cook forced the show to recognize him by being so consistently good week in and week out even though TPTB weren’t his big supporters initially. So imagine 2 guys that built their fan base slowly but strongly competing against each other.

  123. That would have been interesting!(since Cook was my fave in AI 7) I would have still pulled for Adam, but would have understood the alternate outcome easier. It’s all good now, but I would have come to that conclusion faster.

    We don’t need imaginary competition, but (channeling Jim) I think Archie can give Kris a run for his money.

  124. In terms of the multiple concert goers, eh. They’ve had their day. You just want David to be in his best shape for people like MJ who have never seen him live, have heard how good he is, and have been looking forward to their one and only show.

    This is me. The people who never got to experience him live I just really hope he can be at his best for. Plus if he still is having throat problems I hope singing doesn’t cause him any more harm. May be a good time to keep up with the acoustic stuff. I have a feeling the really vocally challenging songs like LO will be a bitch to tackle with a sore throat. I have no clue what’s going on today because Andy also mentioned that today was “back to work”.

    I think the only big difference between Kris and David and how they slowly came from behind is David actually had a lot more previous screentime than Kris. I think with Kris all we saw was his small bit in White Chocolate during Hollywood, David wasn’t a frontrunner going into the voting rounds but we did see his audition, Hollywood performances and he was also featured in two season 7 commercials back in January. IMO he was definitely on TPTB’s radar to some extent.

  125. It is 3 hours ‘“ I was thinking we were out of daylight savings ‘“ sure feels like it

    It’s always a 3 hours difference.

    Really – I didn’t know that, I thought it changed with daylight savings. Good to know.

  126. Really ‘“ I didn’t know that, I thought it changed with daylight savings. Good to know.

    IIRC Europe vs the US changes with daylight savings time – sometimes the east coast is 5 hours off from London, sometimes it’s 6 hrs. I think.

  127. May be a good time to keep up with the acoustic stuff. I have a feeling the really vocally challenging songs like LO will be a bitch to tackle with a sore throat. I have no clue what’s going on today because Andy also mentioned that today was ‘back to work’ .

    Yeah, hopefully he’ll scale back a bit even if he does play. I’d be ok with Andy sharing some of the workload, I like him lots :) . But yes, I’d give up my 4th & 5th shows for newbies… David needs newbies!! And MJ!!!

  128. Seems Sarver is losing more followers

    I hope he doesn’t keep complaining about it, cuz really, cry me a river. AI is an incredible opportunity and a springboard, and he should be grateful for that kind of exposure. He still has nearly 20K followers. REAL musicians like the Crash Kings who are hard at work, out on the road peddling their own (fantastic) music have 2500. Perspective, man.

    David wasn’t a frontrunner going into the voting rounds but we did see his audition, Hollywood performances

    Correction, performance, singular, right? Cuz I’m still pining for a full version of his second performance of, I’ll Be ;). We only know of the latter cuz a clip of it was shown as part of his intro clip package before his first performance. But yes, I agree, DC was a bit of an underdog, but Kris was actually cannonfodder.

  129. Squirrely-Holy Crap! How did I forget? Leo was a baby! I am going senile. For some reason my whole life beforeseeing Adam sing BR is a total blank.

  130. So imagine 2 guys that built their fan base slowly but strongly competing against each other.

    IMO if Kris had competed against Cook in season 7….he would have probably placed after Jason. He doesn’t have the versatility or the stage presence to compete with Cook, the voice to compete with Archie or Jason and Syesha seemed to have a hidden fanbase that gaveher in until 3rd place. All 4 of them have 3 times the voice that Kris has.

  131. We don’t need imaginary competition, but (channeling Jim) I think Archie can give Kris a run for his money.

    I have to disagree – I think Kris would be the dominant one because I think he has more appeal to the older generation than Archie.

    And as far as Kris’s voice compared to Jason – sorry but I just don’t find anything I like about Jason’s voice and on the show he just always seemed to be dialed out and at the end he let TPTB destroy him, while Kris rose to the challenge. And I would compare Syesha to Gokey – so I think Kris would have at least made it to 3rd on Season 7 if keeping the rest of the top finishers in the game.

  132. *newbie here*

    More acoustic David would be fine for me, thankyouverymuch ;)

    I never thought about Kris and David. Good point. They are both good looking singers who play guitar and who changed up songs. But David stood out for me starting at Top 12 and Adam for me Top 13 (see ya, bye, Jorge and Jasmine), so that is why I would use the comparison.

  133. I try to stay away from the comments sections of articles about any of the Idols. It may just be a small percentage of fans, but the downright nasty comments some people make is just really really sad. Especially coming from adults who probably would never make any type of similar comments about people they actually know. It’s a cliche, but whatever happened to the idea of “if you can’t say anything nice about someone, just don’t say anything at all”? If you aren’t a fan of a particular Idol, why even read the article and then make comments? Just ignore the article and go read something about someone you do like instead.

    As for Jim C’s article, the album title suggestions were all jokes. He wasn’t dissing Adam in any way, shape or form.

  134. Read a David vs. David article lately? Granted, a lot of the DC and Archie articles nowadays don’t mention the other guy anymore (phew), but some still do, and anytime an article comes out that compares the two in any way, the vocal contingent of either fanbase will come out to play. Seriously, STILL. It’s ridic. The two guys aren’t even comparable.

    I clicked on that link to the recent article that talked about a DC concert and where the writer said he liked Cook more. Yeah, some of the comments were made of fail (from both sides), but the interesting to me was how few comments there were compared to last year. Last year, that stuff would have gone on for days with multiple pages of just ugly vitriol. The only people left doing the commenting (it seems to me) are the 11 year olds (and I mean that to refer to those who are literally 11 year old and those that are mentally). So even if you see those few articles that do discuss the Davids together, the comments section isn’t quite the bloodbath it was last year.

  135. Twitter:

    I just googled and Twitter has confirmed their Timeline Update System is down.

    I love the irony of the fact that #twitterisfrozen is a trending topic.

  136. BestAI, since I don’t follow Adam’s press, I wouldn’t know. I thought he did play piano or something?

    Adam tried to play the piano but he said it felt foreign to him and he wanted to use his voice as an instrument instead. His brother Neil plays, and learned Mad World on the piano. That’s how Adam knew Mad World.

  137. It is 3 hours ‘“ I was thinking we were out of daylight savings ‘“ sure feels like it

    It’s always a 3 hours difference.

    Well L.A. to NY,

    The difference between PST (Pacific Standard Time) and EST (Eastern Standard Time) is always 3 hours except for parts of Arizona that do not observe daylight savings time.

  138. Seems Sarver is losing more followers

    I hope he doesn’t keep complaining about it, cuz really, cry me a river. AI is an incredible opportunity and a springboard, and he should be grateful for that kind of exposure. He still has nearly 20K followers. REAL musicians like the Crash Kings who are hard at work, out on the road peddling their own (fantastic) music have 2500. Perspective, man.

    Well said. He might be looking at Adam’s followers, who probably gained 20,000 more during the time Sarver had been begging to reach 20,000. Beats the heck out of me how Adam can keep gaining at the rate that he does, cuz he doesn’t tweet anything newsworthy about himself.

  139. I think Kris would be the dominant one because I think he has more appeal to the older generation than Archie.

    Hmmm, dunno. It’s not just those tweens buying Archie’s music and going to concerts.

  140. oh no, I went on twitter just now and it’s telling me I have zero followers and I am following zero people. That’s not right…

    Hope when twitter comes back up I don’t have to re-follow everyone…don’t know if I can remember everyone I follow

  141. I think Kris would be the dominant one because I think he has more appeal to the older generation than Archie.

    I think Archie can croon a beautiful ballad that would appeal to the older generation, so I wouldn’t think Kris would necessarily dominate Archie for that reason.

  142. ToML is the best corantion song ever, I do like Fantasia’s and Adam’s version of their songs but ToML is the best. Did David A record it as well or just David C?

    I don’t believe anyone answered your question yet, Squirrely. Yes, Archie did record ToML since it had to be available for iTunes download had he been the one declared the winner. Amazingly, his version has never been leaked. I’m impressed with the security. They must have destroyed the master and what few copies they may have had for safe measure.

  143. He doesn’t have the versatility or the stage presence to compete with Cook, the voice to compete with Archie or Jason and Syesha

    Funny, I just watched Jason Mraz on Farm Aid yesterday and tried to picture Kris in his place, but, imo, Mraz has a ton more stage presence.

  144. I love the irony of the fact that #twitterisfrozen is a trending topic.

    I saw that and have already added my comment to the trend. In the few moments I took to type it I got a banner saying there were 191 more comments.

  145. Cook fans refer to this pic that was used by AI as the cannon fodder picture:

    http://blogs.pitch.com/wayward/david_cook.jpg

    I like the picture but he has taken much better ones like this one:

    http://sheenabarnett.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/david.jpg

    So the theory goes that they did not think he would make it past the early rounds so just chose any old picture. I know it is stupid but so it goes in Idol land. LOL

    Oh, yes! I HATED that second pic! I think it was used for the itunes singles art too – so it pops up on itunes every time I play a Cook song – wtf!

    Cook was a fav of mine last year, so that was always my pet peeve. Thank god Adam got a better one this year for the itunes songs.

    Still, I actually think Cook had a lot of positive buzz around him (and could easily be considered the fav along with Archie) as soon as he did Hello, and then DEFINITELY after he did Billie Jean. JMO. After that moment, I didn’t doubt for a second that the finale would be anything BUT a David vs. David showdown.

  146. I saw that and have already added my comment to the trend. In the few moments I took to type it I got a banner saying there were 191 more comments.

    Guess twitter is now thawing…

    I’ll admit I’m having problems with it today.

  147. Funny, I just watched Jason Mraz on Farm Aid yesterday and tried to picture Kris in his place, but, imo, Mraz has a ton more stage presence.

    Jason has had YEARS of experience on the road, and he’s known for his incredibly dynamic live performances (each one is unique). Kris has a ways to go.

    Archie did record ToML since it had to be available for iTunes download had he been the one declared the winner.

    I’ve grown to really appreciate that song, and I would actually love to hear the Archie version. I think it would sound really different and yet really good. IMO, both Davids are good at interpreting and elevating their material, and TOML actually would suit Archie. Sorry, but I heard the Regie Hamm version, and kudos to him for writing it, and he seems really great… but his version doesn’t do it at all for me.

  148. Beats the heck out of me how Adam can keep gaining at the rate that he does, cuz he doesn’t tweet anything newsworthy about himself.

    Beyonce has nearly 400,000 ff but not a single tweet not even to say hi. I think people follow in anticipation of tweets from these people. lol.

  149. LOL, Mary102:

    Oh, yes! I HATED that second pic! I think it was used for the itunes singles art too ‘“ so it pops up on itunes every time I play a Cook song ‘“ wtf!

    I uploaded my own pics into the album art on itunes so I didn’t get *that* pic every time. :)

  150. Beats the heck out of me how Adam can keep gaining at the rate that he does, cuz he doesn’t tweet anything newsworthy about himself.

    Anticipation? How else would his album hit #1 on amazon, tho we do not know the name of it or the name of any singles off it and have not gotten any leakage?

  151. The boys of Glee have broken through to the top 10 on iTunes with the girl’s mash-up not far behind in 12th.

    Glee is also holding steady in the ratings (last week it saw an increase and this week it held that increase). Its demos are fantastic. Plus, it’s not being effected by its lead-in, SYTYCD, drop in ratings.

  152. I uploaded my own pics into the album art on itunes so I didn’t get *that* pic every time.

    Oh! Good call! I so need to do that :-) And I have so many awesome Cook pics from last year on my laptop!

  153. oh no, I went on twitter just now and it’s telling me I have zero followers and I am following zero people. That’s not right’ ¦

    Hopefully, Sarver’s twitter isn’t telling *him* this. He’d have a meltdown (but no one would know).

    IMO, both Davids are good at interpreting and elevating their material, and TOML actually would suit Archie. Sorry, but I heard the Regie Hamm version, and kudos to him for writing it, and he seems really great’ ¦ but his version doesn’t do it at all for me.

    I think you’re right. Generally, ToML is an Archie type song, and I think he would’ve done well with it but it’s Cook’s interpretation that, I think, made it go platinum. He gives a gruff, rough, world weariness to it that counterbalances the cheese. Plus his voice suits the underlying meaning behind the song better since it was written by a man who has lost everything financially on account of an ill child and is saying that none of that matters because having his family and their love is really what it’s all about.

  154. The boys of Glee have broken through to the top 10 on iTunes with the girl’s mash-up not far behind in 12th.

    I think the boy’s song is better, even though I like the girl’s voice more (I can’t bring myself to like Finn). The girl’s mash-up is too fast.

  155. Beats the heck out of me how Adam can keep gaining at the rate that he does, cuz he doesn’t tweet anything newsworthy about himself.

    He let us know his about studio sessions and his music video. It may not be as much as we want but it was certainly news.

  156. Sassycatz
    October 8, 2009 at 2:35 pm
    oh no, I went on twitter just now and it’s telling me I have zero followers and I am following zero people. That’s not right’ ¦

    Hopefully, Sarver’s twitter isn’t telling *him* this. He’d have a meltdown (but no one would know).

    ROFLMAO sassycatz! Poor emo!Sarver…

  157. Perez tweeted that Beyonce had 400 000 followers on her twitter account even though she has never twittered. Don’t know how true that is.

  158. Too funny DC! LOL

    thedavidcook: # Sitting by Tia Carrere on the flight. Resist… urge… to quote… Wayne’s World….18 minutes ago from mobile web

  159. I think Archie can croon a beautiful ballad that would appeal to the older generation

    My 76-year-old mother-in-law loves American Idol with every fiber of her being. She thought Archie was creepy and his song choices were boring, and she loved David Cook after “Music of the Night.” I can’t remember who she liked before “Music of the Night,” but I kind of assumed she would be an Archie fan, but she was pretty adamant about not liking him. This year, she loved Adam and liked Kris, and didn’t like Danny at all. Again, I figured Danny to suit her demographic. Nope. Meanwhile, my 40-year-old sister-in-law (the daughter of the other one) loved Danny like crazy and hated Adam, while liking Kris okay. Last year, she didn’t like anybody all that much and tuned out fairly early. In season 5 (when they both started watching) they loooooooooved Taylor beyond all belief. Which all just goes to show that you can’t stereotype based on age or religion or state of origin or anything else. For all we know, Grannies for Lambert dominated that demographic and Oldsters for Archuleta that one. Or not. My best guess is that each of them has fans in every slice of the populace, including old, young, in-between, country, city, coastal, middle, rich, poor, etc., and that the different is how wide those slices are. Like if you have three fans in each category, even though your fanbase represents each and every one of those categories, you will lose to the person who has 3 million in each slice.

    Without significant surveys and studies, we have no idea whose fanbase is from which segment or who voted for whom in what numbers. (Exit polling would be nice, wouldn’t it? Maybe we can get Nate Silver to look into it.)

    But, anyway, speculating on who would’ve won if this person or that person were in a different season is akin to speculating on whether the US would’ve won WWII faster if Eleanor Roosevelt could fly. Didn’t happen, isn’t going to happen, no way to know how the group consciousness would’ve changed or who would’ve sung what or how wild card/Top 24 would’ve affected things.

  160. thedavidcook: # Sitting by Tia Carrere on the flight. Resist’ ¦ urge’ ¦ to quote’ ¦ Wayne’s World’ ¦.18 minutes ago from mobile web

    Bwah! The meaningful use of ellipses is cracking me up. You can do it DC! Don’t give in to the dork side!

  161. thedavidcook: # Sitting by Tia Carrere on the flight. Resist’ ¦ urge’ ¦ to quote’ ¦ Wayne’s World’ ¦.18 minutes ago from mobile web

    Bahahaha. Do it do it! Heh, he’s such a dork. Does she have twitter? Wonder if she watches AI.

  162. Generally, ToML is an Archie type song, and I think he would’ve done well with it but it’s Cook’s interpretation that, I think, made it go platinum.

    Didn’t Archie say that he hopes his version never sees the light of day? Of course, it could be fine – Archie is so darn humble.

    thedavidcook: # Sitting by Tia Carrere on the flight. Resist’ ¦ urge’ ¦ to quote’ ¦ Wayne’s World’ ¦.18 minutes ago from mobile web

    LOL! David’s twitters keep me vastly entertained. Love it.

  163. LOL! David’s twitters keep me vastly entertained. Love it.

    They’re usually 90% about sports.

  164. Funny, I just watched Jason Mraz on Farm Aid yesterday and tried to picture Kris in his place, but, imo, Mraz has a ton more stage presence.

    Kris has already a sweet stage presence and just could get better. We’ll see when he’ll be 32 yrs old like Mraz!

  165. They’re usually 90% about sports.

    That’s entertainment for me, I’m a sports junkie :)

  166. abbysee I love your avatar, even though it makes me sad.

    Thanks Squirrely, I thought it was going to be temporary, but I just can’t let it go yet. Some days it makes me sad too. Mostly though, I just love seeing him like this.

  167. Beats the heck out of me how Adam can keep gaining at the rate that he does, cuz he doesn’t tweet anything newsworthy about himself.

    I actually LOVE Adam’s tweets (granted, I’m a little biased ;-) ) but he can be really clever and sly in those things! He rarely wastes a tweet – the german one comes to mind. I didn’t even get that one till a day later, it seemed.

    I think the boy’s song is better, even though I like the girl’s voice more (I can’t bring myself to like Finn). The girl’s mash-up is too fast.

    Yeah, unfortunately that was kinda written into the storyline (to have the sped up versions) – not sure if they changed it at all (slowed it down) for the itunes downloads, because that would be way too hyper for something you’d actually download and listen to on a regular basis.

  168. Cantiello is back!!! Five suggested Kris Allen Titles for his Album:

    http://newsroom.mtv.com/2009/10/08/kris-allen-fans-album-titles/

    Phew. What’s a day without some Jim Fantarding?

    Oh dear – what controversy can we wring out of this list ;-)

    ETA: Well, it does include the entry:

    5: I’m Kris Allen and You’re Not
    MTV.com user “Lois” was clearly piggybacking on my Not Adam Lambert joke, but she twisted my innocent jab against a couple angry Glamberts into a vicious attack on all Lambert lovers.

  169. from MichaelSarver1

    RT @AINow: Less Than 7 Hours Until Our LIVE Chat With Michael Sarver (@michaelsarver1) Today http://retwt.me/xVHn – Don’t Miss It!!!!
    about 5 hours ago from Echofon

    RT @SaulaForeverFan: @michaelsarver1 Is that gonna be tomorrow? Yes that chat is tomorrow. Thursday 10/8/09 4:00pm Eastern 3:00pm Central.about 14 hours ago from Echofon

  170. Well, Mary, since you asked….

    This one is pretty fun, and it comes from a reader:

    soapy_chk89

    I still think “Here’s My Album, You Can Listen to It If You Want, But You Don’t Have to, It’s Completely Up to You, Thanks, I Really Appreciate It” would suit his humble personality. It might be too short, though.

    LOL

  171. Phew. What’s a day without some Jim Fantarding?

    Day? I think you radically underestimate Jim’s levels of fantarding. I think it’s more ‘what’s an hour without Jim fantarding?’ or maybe it’s more like ‘second, hours, so many days…to fantard Kris Allen.’ Or more recently ‘only 86,400 seconds in a day/to fantard Kris Allen.’

  172. ‘Here’s My Album, You Can Listen to It If You Want, But You Don’t Have to, It’s Completely Up to You, Thanks, I Really Appreciate It’ 

    Now that’s funny!

  173. Three, four years from now they’ll be off doing their own thing and people who weren’t invested in the season will only think tangentially of how both guys got their big breaks on the same show.

    This hasn’t happened for Season Five yet, as far as I can tell. Or Season Two, for that matter.

    Time horizon must be quite a big longer than three or four years, then.

  174. Phew. What’s a day without some Jim Fantarding?

    Day? I think you radically underestimate Jim’s levels of fantarding. I think it’s more ‘what’s an hour without Jim fantarding?’ or maybe it’s more like ‘second, hours, so many days’ ¦to fantard Kris Allen.’ Or more recently ‘only 86,400 seconds in a day/to fantard Kris Allen.’

    He must spend his entire day fantasizing about Kris, and trying to think of how he could tweet about him.

  175. soapy_chk89

    I still think ‘Here’s My Album, You Can Listen to It If You Want, But You Don’t Have to, It’s Completely Up to You, Thanks, I Really Appreciate It’  would suit his humble personality. It might be too short, though.

    LOL

    ROFL! Ok – the ones he posted on the main list weren’t very funny (imo, for me, for you) – but that one is pretty damn funny!

  176. from IMMATTGIRAUD

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    from TommyandBrook

    Tomorrow morning Matt G hangs with us! http://twitpic.com/kp77i
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    OMG=Oh Matt Giraud! As in @ImMattGiraud joins us IN STUDIO Friday. Eek. We can’t wait. He has some NEWS for you! Listen to STAR 105.7
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  177. Hey guys is the link to join my live chat with AI NOW in 28 min. http://retwt.me/xVHn. Join us with questions! 6 min ago

    Who is gonna transcribe Michael’s chat for us?!

  178. Whoa – and checking twitter confirmed no gratuitous Aimee Mayo tweets about Adam today :-( What’s with that?!

    suebrody, we’re counting on you…

  179. I don’t get the Adam twitter love when he really doesn’t say much. Archie and Kris come out with these ridiculous comments and Cook will often talk sports but aside from vague references to what he’s been working on or a song/album/group he likes there’s not much in Adam’s tweets that make me thing OMG, I really needed to know about that.

    And honestly I don’t understand pre-ordering an album when you don’t know what the music will sound like and if you would like it. I’ll buy Adam, Allison or Kris’s albums only if I hear some of the songs and like it (so far Kris is a yes and Allison is a no based on the 2 songs out there, much as I love Allison and want her to do well). If I like Adam’s single when it comes out chances are it will go into the yes group but I will put it in the no group if I don’t like it. The same is true for me regardless of who the Artist is. I’ve loved some of Kelly’s stuff, but not all and only own the stuff she put out that I like.

  180. Whoa ‘“ and checking twitter confirmed no gratuitous Aimee Mayo tweets about Adam today :-( What’s with that?!

    Maybe her Adam tweets quota is used up, and so is our Adam news quota for this week…

  181. soapy_chk89

    I still think ‘Here’s My Album, You Can Listen to It If You Want, But You Don’t Have to, It’s Completely Up to You, Thanks, I Really Appreciate It’  would suit his humble personality. It might be too short, though.

    I vote this one too! It is soooooooo Kris! But, I agree, it is a little too short. Jim C. luvvvvs Kris doesn’t he? Does he ever cover any other singers?

  182. And honestly I don’t understand pre-ordering an album when you don’t know what the music will sound like and if you would like it.

    Thinking of SuBo right now! What an awful track list.

  183. hi guys!!! no news today.that’s good 4 me-becuz I’m busy 2day.sigh.

    WHERE TE HELL IS THAT SINGLE????!!!!!!

    UGHHHHHHH

    46 days….until …IT…..

    sigh .catch you tommorow peeps….

  184. Whoa ‘“ and checking twitter confirmed no gratuitous Aimee Mayo tweets about Adam today :-( What’s with that?!

    suebrody, we’re counting on you’ ¦

    I will see what I can do. Maybe it’s b/c Twitter was down today? ;)

    I am not going to transcript Sarver’s chat today, however, because :.

    A) I am at work
    B) I have learned all I have needed to learn via his 100 Twitter parties.

  185. that make me thing OMG, I really needed to know about that.

    I didn’t know Twitter is a real source for ‘OMG news’…

  186. Allison is a no based on the 2 songs out there

    I thought Allison had only one song out thus far. Did I sarver something?

    Oh and as for pre-ordering, I know I’m going to buy Adam’s album, I know that if I’m lucky I’ll probably only like 3 songs and I’m okay with that. Not like it’s terribly big investment, two double tall lattes and a pumpkin loaf from Starbucks cost me more.

  187. Jim C. luvvvvs Kris doesn’t he?

    he does! i remember earlier this year, i think one or two episodes before the Idol Finale he did a recap of the 5 best songs. as far as i remember

    3. Adam – Mad World
    2. Allison – Papa was a rolling stone
    1. Kris – Falling Slowly

    and from that day onwards, i fell in love with jim :)

  188. I didn’t know Twitter is a real source for ‘OMG news” ¦

    Oh, but it is ;-) How many 20 page -gates did we invent based on the most nonsensical and vague of tweets during the summer tour? It may not be true, but that doesn’t mean it’s not “OMG-worthy”

  189. Cassidy Haley is playing a midnight show at the Viper Room in L.A. this coming Sunday. I don’t have to work Monday, so I’m thinking a may get a ticket and go to this. Any other L.A.-area people want to come with — or meet up there?

    http://i33.tinypic.com/zjeyyh.jpg

  190. Day? I think you radically underestimate Jim’s levels of fantarding. I think it’s more ‘what’s an hour without Jim fantarding?’ or maybe it’s more like ‘second, hours, so many days’ ¦to fantard Kris Allen.’ Or more recently ‘only 86,400 seconds in a day/to fantard Kris Allen.’

    hahahahaha..with that note, i’m off to bed…maybe i’ll dream of Krim tonight…goodnight ya’ll

  191. Cassidy Haley is playing a midnight show at the Viper Room in L.A. this coming Sunday.

    Now what do you suppose the odds are that Adam will show to support his friend?

    Never heard of Punk Bunny and Elephant …

  192. Cassidy Haley is playing a midnight show at the Viper Room in L.A. this coming Sunday. I don’t have to work Monday, so I’m thinking a may get a ticket and go to this. Any other L.A.-area people want to come with ‘” or meet up there?

    If I was in LA I would go with you.

  193. http://www.popcrunch.com/katharine-mcphee-donates-chopped-hair-to-locks-of-love/

    Katharine McPhee sang her way into our hearts as runner-up on the fifth season of American Idol. Despite disappointing sales for her 2007 debut, the formerly brunette powerhouse is in the news again ‘“thanks to the release of a new album and some freshly cropped tresses.

    And doing good deeds is always in fashion’ ¦.Star Magazine spies have learned that Katharine has donated her chopped hair to Locks of Love, the organization that makes wigs for children who have lost their own locks due to illness.

    ‘Katharine has wanted to donate her hair for years and she loves her new look,’  a tipster tattles.

    Katharine’s sophomore album Unbroken hits store shelves in January. Her single ‘Had it All’ is available on iTunes now.

  194. Cassidy Haley is playing a midnight show at the Viper Room in L.A. this coming Sunday.

    Now what do you suppose the odds are that Adam will show to support his friend?

    Probably around 100 percent, and I’m sure he’ll be tweeting about it the next day. :)

  195. I still think ‘Here’s My Album, You Can Listen to It If You Want, But You Don’t Have to, It’s Completely Up to You, Thanks, I Really Appreciate It’  would suit his humble personality. It might be too short, though.

    I think that album title would also work for Melinda Doolittle and David Archuleta as well.

  196. Cantiello wrote another article today. This one had the best fan suggestions for Kris’ new album. This one is what people were discussing before:

    5: I’m Kris Allen and You’re Not
    MTV.com user “Lois” was clearly piggybacking on my Not Adam Lambert joke, but she twisted my innocent jab against a couple angry Glamberts into a vicious attack on all Lambert lovers. Peace and love, Lois! You’re only getting a shout-out here because I appreciate your Chevy Chase reference

    Okay, 3..2..1… Glamberts go nuts!!!

  197. Think Adam and Cassidy go to the same photo studio and use the same source for their clothes (ha, ha’ ¦.I wish I was a size 4 again with money and I would wear nothing but Cassidy’s leather stuff).

    Cassidy did a Vegas show and he had on the JACKET! His wasn’t as pretty as the one he made for Adam but it was the same style.

  198. Now what do you suppose the odds are that Adam will show to support his friend?

    Probably around 100 percent

    Taking current boyfriend to see ex-boyfriend? hah.

  199. Yes, and they have an open vodka bar from 8 to 10. Adam drinks vodka, doesn’t he?

  200. cassidy’s not adam’s ex.that’s brad.I think.

    yes Adam like vodka.remember it from an interview.sad.

    ughhhh michael is So boring!!!!!

    rrly going now bye….

  201. Taking current boyfriend to see ex-boyfriend? hah.

    Cassidy is his leather designer (SkinGraft), the ex is someone else BUT the ex will most likely be there.

    ETA: this would be a fun gate LOL

  202. Taking current boyfriend to see ex-boyfriend? hah

    Um no … Cassidy has clearly stated that he and Adam have always been just friends – never dated, no romance.

    Of course they have the same source for clothes – Cassidy is one of the owners of SkinGraft

  203. I am not confusing Cassidy and Brad and I know perfectly well Cassidy’s connection to Skin Graft.

  204. Um no ‘ ¦ Cassidy has clearly stated that he and Adam have always been just friends ‘“ never dated, no romance.

    Of course they have the same source for clothes ‘“ Cassidy is one of the owners of SkinGraft

    Ooh, maybe new designer ware?

    Apparently, Aimee finished her song for Adam. Info as it becomes available…

    We do have a tweet from Lukas Rossi:

    lukasrossi I can’t wait to hear @adamlambert ‘s record. I bet it’s gonna be fierce.4 minutes ago from Tweetie

  205. ummmmm this was probably already posted buuut ferras tweeted:

    Just got done listening to the new version of my and @aimeemayo and @silvertire song. dying. so insanely perfect. about 14 hours ago

  206. ontd_ai.com has a thread about how some random person who posts on the IDF forum supposedly sat next to an RCA exec at a showing of the Michael Jackson documentary…and that this exec allegedly had Adam’s single on his iPod and let her listen to it.

    Now, call me cynical, but I have a REALLY hard time believing a RCA exec would let some random fan listen to Adam’s single when they’ve been everything in their power to keep any info about it quiet. So I call BS on this…

  207. Allison is a no based on the 2 songs out there

    This is out of context without realizing the beginning of my sentence. I wrote Kris is a yes and Allison is a no based on the 2 songs out there (i.e., each of them have a song out – total # of songs is therefore 2). I like LLWD but still can’t get into Friday I’ll Be Over U.

  208. you think we are the only ones waiting to hear adam’s music:

    @lucasrossi

    I can’t wait to hear @adamlambert ‘s record. I bet it’s gonna be fierce.10 minutes ago from Tweetie

    you guys beat me to this- BTW – just luv Lucas Rossi-ya see a pattern here LOL!

  209. LOL! David’s twitters keep me vastly entertained. Love it.

    They’re usually 90% about sports.

    Given the kind of sports nut he is I actually think he’s very mild with his tweeting about sports. If you scroll through his last 2-3 weeks of tweets he really only posted the couple of days he was able to be home watching the games. Other than that I think he found the right balance of being amusing and informative without being annoying. And I <3 that he pretty much tweets everyday, multiple times hee.

  210. Just got done listening to the new version of my and @aimeemayo and @silvertire song. dying. so insanely perfect. about 14 hours ago

    Is this for a tire factory? ;)

    I am calling NFW on the IDF poster.

  211. Just got done listening to the new version of my and @aimeemayo and @silvertire song. dying. so insanely perfect. about 14 hours ago

    I’m a little squicked out with these people going on and on about how much they love their own song, and how great it is. Is this the new rage these days? Patting yourself on the back incessently?

  212. Who is Lucas Rossi? Is there a reason why I should care that he’s anxious to hear Adam’s album?

    Ok, I looked him up. He won Rock Star Supernova.

    So, yeah — there’s no reason for me to care that he’s anxious to hear Adam’s album. Didn’t think so…

  213. SpenserJ,

    I think is just self promotion-using twitter to get attention for their work, I guess

  214. Is this the new rage these days? Patting yourself on the back incessently?

    It might be the new rage but it is fricking annoying, lol.

  215. Spenser J

    You beat me to it. I was just thinking it would be refreshing to see a tweet from a songwriter about how the song they just wrote was total crap!

  216. Who is Lukas Rossi?

    He sleeps with the fishes.

    Oh, jeez, Squirrely, I just spit soda on my keyboard. Hee!

  217. I am calling NFW on the IDF poster.

    Why, is she/he dissing it?

    Who is Lukas Rossi?

    He sleeps with the fishes.

    This didn’t clear things up…

  218. ontd_ai.com has a thread about how some random person who posts on the IDF forum supposedly sat next to an RCA exec at a showing of the Michael Jackson documentary’ ¦and that this exec allegedly had Adam’s single on his iPod and let her listen to it.

    And….?

  219. girlygirl- Lukas Rossi won Rockstar Supernova a few years back. I just googled him to see what he is up to- I loved that guy. He is in a band with some members from P.O.D. , Papa roach and Chevelle now. Band’s name is Daylight Division

    I noticed a while ago Adam followed him on twitter.

  220. HWC

    …and she loved the single. Called it “killer”

    But again, it’s highly unlikely she actually got to hear this “top-secret” song.

  221. Lukas Rossi won Rockstar Supernova a few years back

    That guy! Ewww!

  222. Squirrely
    October 8, 2009 at 4:40 pm
    Who is Lukas Rossi?

    He sleeps with the fishes.

    Pfffffffffffffffffft! (the sound of liquid spraying all over my monitor~!) Oh, Squirrely…never lose that quick wit!

  223. ontd_ai.com has a thread about how some random person who posts on the IDF forum supposedly sat next to an RCA exec at a showing of the Michael Jackson documentary’ ¦and that this exec allegedly had Adam’s single on his iPod and let her listen to it.

    yep, that sounds completely legit to me. “Hey you, random person, wanna listen to my ipod with this super secret Adam Lambert track on it? I’m with RCA!” LOL

  224. Is Lucas Rossi the guy who won RockStar Supernova the year Dilana was on that show?

    Oh, I remember him — the short dude whose hair made him look like a skunk (it was dyed black and white). Yeah, I wasn’t a big fan of his…he was very cocky from what I remember.

  225. yep, that sounds completely legit to me. ‘Hey you, random person, wanna listen to my ipod with this super secret Adam Lambert track on it? I’m with RCA!’  LOL

    The new pick-up line! :grin:

  226. Aimee Mayo is to Adam what Jim C is to Kris.

    I don’t think there is any possibility either one of them could be objective if they tried.

    LMAO at:

    yep, that sounds completely legit to me. ‘Hey you, random person, wanna listen to my ipod with this super secret Adam Lambert track on it? I’m with RCA!’  LOL

    The new pick-up line!

  227. Who is Lukas Rossi?

    He sleeps with the fishes.

    THAT is funny…

    I tried to download LLWD today and iTunes said I had already purchased it. Which I hadn’t. Tho I *should* have gotten it b/c I have the iTunes pass.

    I hate iTunes.

    ROTFL, saga.

  228. This is out of context without realizing the beginning of my sentence. I wrote Kris is a yes and Allison is a no based on the 2 songs out there (i.e., each of them have a song out ‘“ total # of songs is therefore 2). I like LLWD but still can’t get into Friday I’ll Be Over U.

    Ahh, I see now. I’m kind of the opposite of you, I’m okay (but not great) with Friday I’ll Be Over U and have just had to come to terms that I am just not able to get into LLWD. Though I hope for commercial success for both of them and if there are enough songs I like on either album (again, I don’t expect higher than 2, lucky at 3) I’ll buy their albums when they come out as well.

  229. This didn’t clear things up’ ¦

    Luka Rossi…. Sleeps with the fishes is a Godfather reference.

    Nah, that’s his cousin Lucca Brassi

    That’s right. It’s been a while.

  230. I think Archie can croon a beautiful ballad that would appeal to the older generation

    My 76-year-old mother-in-law loves American Idol with every fiber of her being. She thought Archie was creepy and his song choices were boring, and she loved David Cook after ‘Music of the Night.’ 

    My parents were totally opposite. They were not interested in Cook but adored Archie and were always excited for his next song choice each week. Of course, they didn’t vote but when they found out he didn’t win they regretted not to vote for him.

    Now, they are not familiar with contemporary pop songs Archie sings but still adore him. I will buy his Xmas CD for them when it comes out. BTW, Ave Maria, with a boy’s choir gives me chills. Can’t wait.

  231. yep, that sounds completely legit to me. ‘Hey you, random person, wanna listen to my ipod with this super secret Adam Lambert track on it? I’m with RCA!’  LOL

    I don’t know why you guys are doubting this girl. This stuff happens to me all the time. Why, not just an hour ago I was in the checkout line at the grocery store with a Sony exec, one of Simon Fuller’s assistants and the guy from the Slap Chop commercial.

  232. What great news for Ryan Kasprzak. He certainly seemed well-liked by the other contestants. This young man is too talented to just fade away. I think DWTS appreciate his talent and will have him back one way or another.

    I am just so happy Diana DeGarmo is getting work. Another young person who deserves all the acclaim she receives. What a sweetheart. I wish her the best.

  233. yep, that sounds completely legit to me. ‘Hey you, random person, wanna listen to my ipod with this super secret Adam Lambert track on it? I’m with RCA!’ 

    Pick-up line? Might work?

  234. anovich

    I don’t get the Adam twitter love when he really doesn’t say much.

    Adam tweets about as much as most poeple who are not Michael Sarver or Michael Slezak.
    And more importantly his tweets actually tell us news or confirm something. Besides they are witty and intelligent.
    Not everyone has to tweet 24/7 to have 200,000 followers.

  235. isn’t the Slap Chop guy in jail?

    Actually, I don’t think he is. Apparently, you don’t get much jail time for slap chopping hookers.

  236. I’m a little squicked out with these people going on and on about how much they love their own song, and how great it is. Is this the new rage these days? Patting yourself on the back incessently?

    I completely agree, SpenserJ.

    (BTW, new siiiick halfie song parody now available on planetfierce.proboards.com).

  237. ontd_ai.com has a thread about how some random person who posts on the IDF forum supposedly sat next to an RCA exec at a showing of the Michael Jackson documentary’ ¦and that this exec allegedly had Adam’s single on his iPod and let her listen to it.

    yep, that sounds completely legit to me. ‘Hey you, random person, wanna listen to my ipod with this super secret Adam Lambert track on it? I’m with RCA!’  LOL

    It is unlikely, but not impossible. Here is an article from someone, who criticize the ways major labels handle new single release with special mentioned of the exec.

    And just to let someone listen to a song, is not such a big risk unless the other one is a musical genius and can repeat it out of memory.

  238. OT but hopefully related – can any of you music-industry-wise people explain why at some concerts there are 2 opening acts and not just one? At some upcoming David Cook concerts Green River Ordinance AND The Script are opening acts for him.
    The more music the merrier, I guess, but unless I’m at a festival one opener is enough

  239. I have been tied up with work, so please excuse me if this is old news.

    Warner Music Group Names Producer Rob Cavallo Chief Creative Officer

    http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/news.php?id=43867

    As part of his deal, Warner Music said, Cavallo will also be able to work on outside projects with other artists and labels. Cavallo has been working on ‘American Idol” runner-up Adam Lambert’s debut for RCA.

    Yes, its mentioned as an “outside deal” but having someone with that amount of power working on your album certainly couldn’t hurt.

  240. oh no, I went on twitter just now and it’s telling me I have zero followers and I am following zero people. That’s not right’ ¦

    Hope when twitter comes back up I don’t have to re-follow everyone’ ¦don’t know if I can remember everyone I follow

    It did that to me also, but it quickly corrected itself, so I don’t think you have to worry. It’s strange, I haven’t been experiencing any of the other problems people are complaining about today with Twitter.

  241. At some upcoming David Cook concerts Green River Ordinance AND The Script are opening acts for him.

    Really? Cool. Actually, a lot of headliners have 2 opening acts, but I thought generally bigger names/bigger venue tours? I dunno, are those bigger venues for DC? I know Rob Thomas has Carolina Liar and One Republic. Kelly has The Veronicas & Parachute/Eric Hutchinson & Parachute. The Jonas Brothers had like 7 on their tour(exaggerating, but they had like 4 or something crazy).

    I have a somewhat related question, anyone know how the compensation for openers works? I imagine they work out a deal before going on the road if everything is negotiated and planned… but DC’s ever-changing, ever-flexible opening line-up had me curious about how they’re able to work out the monetary side of a lot of his last-minute arrangements. Some shows, he doesn’t have an opener lined up, then he kinda slaps someone he knows at the last minute, while a couple other times, he just played a longer set and went without an opener.

    I think at a Tulsa show early on in the tour he had his Tulsa buddy Bryan Jewett play before Ryan Star I think, and in LA, he just invited Ryan to play before the Crash Kings. Recently he got his buddy Phil Marshall to come open for a couple shows last minute. And then in Ottawa, they didn’t have an opener, so it sounds like the venue scrambled to find an local opener to play at the last minute.

    It all seems so… not unprofessional, but like, unofficial to me? Like, what about contracts and stuff?

  242. Well, I had to try:

    AimeeMayo @suebrody1 you think u wanna know… i feel like i need to check into the hospital. i can’t take it anymore. somebody tell us something . 1 minute ago from web in reply to suebrody1

    Apparently, she and Ferras played their song for Kellie Pickler, who loved it. And now I leave the rest of you to your Adam Lambert single release watch, already in progress.

    BTW, Ryan Star is opening for Cook this Saturday night. I’m stoked.

  243. I don’t know why you guys are doubting this girl. This stuff happens to me all the time. Why, not just an hour ago I was in the checkout line at the grocery store with a Sony exec, one of Simon Fuller’s assistants and the guy from the Slap Chop commercial.

    I don’t know who the Slap Chop guy is, but I was standing in line for the executive dining lounge yesterday and Clive and Barry passed each other and almost got into a slap-fight. Turns out that Jive and RCA have a little wager going on as to which one got the better Idol (see, it’s just not the psycho fans). Although Barry is in charge of both labels, he still has a soft spot for his original label, Jive. And Clive, well, he’s Clive (and still pretty feisty for a guy who has looked like the un-dead for the past 7 years).

    Barry thinks he’s got it in the bag because he’s got both Kris and Allison, while Clive has always loved a glory noter so he thinks he’ll win this round. Suffice to say, a crisp $1 will soon be changing hands. All the PAs and the A&R guys who’ve heard the sample tracks from all three have our own little wagers going on. All I can say is, fasten your seat-belts and keep your arms inside the car at all times. This is going to be an exciting ride.

    Sony exec at the MJ pre-screening with the song on his iPod? Not gonna happen. Every exec worth their salt is running around trying to look busy enough not to be the next one layed-off. Who has times for movies? Probably some lame-ass fake insider trying to score. There are tonnes of those losers out there. Beware!

  244. ontd_ai.com has a thread about how some random person who posts on the IDF forum supposedly sat next to an RCA exec at a showing of the Michael Jackson documentary’ ¦and that this exec allegedly had Adam’s single on his iPod and let her listen to it.

    Here is the IDF link:
    http://idolforums.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=617387&view=findpost&p=21359817

    I remember that avatar. She actually even interviewed Adam once during the tour iirc. I think she might be a reporter or something. But I can hardly believe some RCA exec will have Adam’s single in his ipod.

  245. OT but hopefully related ‘“ can any of you music-industry-wise people explain why at some concerts there are 2 opening acts and not just one? At some upcoming David Cook concerts Green River Ordinance AND The Script are opening acts for him.

    I don’t know, but this sounds like a good show. I’ve seen GRO a few times and they’re a pretty decent band. Just bought their CD for myself and my niece.

    I have a somewhat related question, anyone know how the compensation for openers works?

    You might go to DCO and ask about this. There’s always someone with the answer to this type of question there.

  246. At some upcoming David Cook concerts Green River Ordinance AND The Script are opening acts for him.

    I haven’t had a show with two openers but I wish I had that one! I saw GRO at Birchmere and really liked them. I’ve gone full circle, my first show was Ryan Star, then Matt Nathanson (and Felicia Barton so I guess I did get two openers at VA Beach, but that was a festival), and then GRO at Birchmere. Now I’m back to Ryan Star who I really like. It costs me $$, though. Since I have bought two Matt Nathanson albums, Ryan’s EP and GRO’s album. LOL!

  247. Meatloaf is a fanboy of Adam.

    ‘I’m gonna do Adam Lambert right now’ 

    He and Aimee need to get a room…

    And from Danny Gokey:

    On a serious note- So far I have finished 2 songs in the studio & they sound great!! I’ll keep u updated on the project as it goes3 minutes ago from web

    (Danny has been tweeting bizarre things today.)

  248. girlygirl
    Cassidy Haley is playing a midnight show at the Viper Room in L.A. this coming Sunday. I don’t have to work Monday, so I’m thinking a may get a ticket and go to this. Any other L.A.-area people want to come with ‘” or meet up there?

    http://i33.tinypic.com/zjeyyh.jpg

    Wow, this would be so FUN!!! Okay, girlygirl, we’re counting on you to go armed and ready with your camera/videophone to capture an Adam sighting!

    Just got done listening to the new version of my and @aimeemayo and @silvertire song. dying. so insanely perfect. about 14 hours ago

    Is this for a tire factory?

    ROFL! The mystery of the “Michelin man” photo is revealed!

  249. girlygirl
    October 8, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    Cassidy Haley is playing a midnight show at the Viper Room in L.A. this coming Sunday. I don’t have to work Monday, so I’m thinking a may get a ticket and go to this. Any other L.A.-area people want to come with ‘” or meet up there?

    http://i33.tinypic.com/zjeyyh.jpg

    I’m in – how do I contact you?

  250. Apparently, she and Ferras played their song for Kellie Pickler, who loved it.

    did they really think she would tell them if she hated it or thought it was just meh? I don’t know this woman, but I wouldn’t even want to tell her if I didn’t like it.

  251. Apparently, she and Ferras played their song for Kellie Pickler, who loved it.

    did they really think she would tell them if she hated it or thought it was just meh? I don’t know this woman, but I wouldn’t even want to tell her if I didn’t like it.

    *guffaw*

    Yeah, I think I’m kinda over Aimee. I’d love for her to get a track on the album, but we shall see what we shall see…or hear.

  252. I have a somewhat related question, anyone know how the compensation for openers works?

    For the most part, opening bands are paid nominally if at all – they do it strictly for promotion and practice (plus an open beer tab at the bar). Some may get a small, set appearance fee or in some cases a cut of the door, but I think even that may be rare except on larger tours. I would guess that The Declaration tour is large enough and profitable enough that The Script, GRO, Crash Kings, and Ryan Star probably get something, but I doubt it’s much. In some cases, bands can even buy-in to a large-scale tour, meaning they actually pay money in order to appear on the bill. This was probably the case with the multiple JoBros openers.

    I have friends in a band that toured as the opening act for Cowboy Junkies last year, and they made nothing other than what they were able to sell at the merch table. They covered all their own transportation and food costs, traveled in their own van, and provided (and schleped) all their own gear. But they were thrilled to do it because of the exposure it provided, and the fact that they got to know Margo Timmins well enough that she sang guest vocals on their last album.

  253. Adamland and girlygirl,
    I’m a big Cassidy fan. I hope you guys have fun! Details and pics please! I hope Adam is there. Living on the east coast is the pits sometimes!

  254. Thanks, ladymadonna. That’s interesting. It must be tough for artists who never seem to graduate from opener status to make any money on tour then (cough, Jordin, cough). But I tend to think the minimal compensation is just when the headliner is a lot bigger than the opener(s). I bet when fairly big names open for just slightly bigger names, they get a lot more than the small openers, cuz sometimes those are advertised as nearly a co-headline tour, you know? I remember seeing a show with 2 openers a couple years ago, where the headliner specifically asked us to buy the 1st opener’s merch and music because the weren’t getting money from this and needed to cover their costs… implying that the main (2nd) opener was at least covering costs…?

    I would guess that The Script, GRO, Crash Kings, and Ryan Star probably get something but I doubt it’s much.

    I would think The Script would get more than the others, cuz they do have their own following, already headlined a tour in the US, small as it was…? But I may have a skewed perspective cuz I know people who know The Script and don’t know David Cook.

  255. Living on the east coast is the pits sometimes!

    Never! I live in Manhattan and could never think of living anywhere else.

  256. Still no announcement when Adam’s single will be heard/released? No radio gigs to promote his single. No giigs lined up. Are they just going to suddenly announce — Oh here is Adam’s single, and he will be on the radio on 00.0 fm in five minutes. Be sure to tune in. Oh, it’s passed, sorry you missed it. And Adam will be appearing in Podunk City tonite (oh, actually it’s happening now). Mark your calendars. Oh, it’s over, but be sure to catch him at the next show when it won’t announce either. Hope you’re psychic so you won’t miss that one too.

  257. but DC’s ever-changing, ever-flexible opening line-up had me curious about how they’re able to work out the monetary side of a lot of his last-minute arrangements. Some shows, he doesn’t have an opener lined up, then he kinda slaps someone he knows at the last minute, while a couple other times, he just played a longer set and went without an opener.

    I think for the past month or so there have been last-minute arrangements because Safetysuit was going to open for David but then it didn’t work out, so he ended up without an opening act after Crash Kings. Seems like he got Ryan to fill some of those but not all. That’s why there are shows without opening acts and in some of those he gets friends to open. But other than that I think these things are done with time and they decide before the shows how it works.

    That’s interesting. It must be tough for artists who never seem to graduate from opener status to make any money on tour then (cough, Jordin, cough). But I tend to think the minimal compensation is just when the headliner is a lot bigger than the opener(s). I bet when fairly big names open for just slightly bigger names, they get a lot more than the small openers, cuz sometimes those are advertised as nearly a co-headline tour, you know?

    That’s what I thought too. lol Actually I think someone like Jordin probably gets good money opening for those big acts. Especially in this case, considering the Jo Bros father manages her. lol

  258. I would think The Script would get more than the others, cuz they do have their own following, already headlined a tour in the US, small as it was’ ¦? But I may have a skewed perspective cuz I know people who know The Script and don’t know David Cook.

    Sure. That’s likely. Plus these shows with the Script are being booked into larger venues – they’re moving up into some theaters that are in the 3000-5000 capacity range. So I think they are counting on The Script to be a decent draw in and of themselves, and adding GRO to the bill in some cases would cost relatively little but may help get even more butts in seats (hey – 3 cool bands for the cost of one!).

  259. ‘I’m gonna do Adam Lambert right now’ 

    I watched that about 5 times and came over to see if it was here yet. I think I’ll watch it again.

  260. RockStar Supernova sucked ass! Rockstar INXS was awesome even though they kicked JD Fortune to the curb after wards.

  261. adamland

    are you on twitter? if you are, I can follow you, & send you a tweet, then you can DM me with an email address. Or you can follow me (twitter.com/tmg84) send me a tweet and I can DM you…

  262. sidewalkstory, I should have been more specific! I love NY and I envy you living in Manhattan. I’m in Virginia, and I don’t get to NY often enough. : )

  263. sidewalkstory, I should have been more specific! I love NY and I envy you living in Manhattan. I’m in Virginia, and I don’t get to NY often enough. : )

    We certainly have our problems here too. But I love it here. Easy enough for getaways if you need them.

  264. for some reason it won’t open for me. can someone pls post to youtube. thanks

    Did you press the arrow?

  265. I’m okay (but not great) with Friday I’ll Be Over U and have just had to come to terms that I am just not able to get into LLWD.

    Me too! Glad to see Brittney Spears knocked off Miley for #1 on itune sales even if I’m not crazy about the song. Kris is down to #71. Allison’s is about #140. I about to go buy it.

  266. Squirrely
    October 8, 2009 at 6:11 pm

    ‘I’m gonna do Adam Lambert right now’ 

    http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5540/vid00016.mp4

    http://twitter.com/RealMeatLoaf

    Meatloaf is off his meds, but that did make me laugh.

    No kidding. Wow and he has another video from 10/2 on his twitter and he’s talking about Adam’s album. I think he said they would be doing vocals on 10/12. Okay trying not to raise expectations here.
    On a side note: Wondering if the tweet from Jim C. talking about meat and Adam had something to do with Jim knowing that meatloaf was such a fanboy and had seen meat’s earlier videotweet (whatever they’re called)

  267. Did you press the arrow?

    yes Idid. it just changes to a square.

  268. beehiway

    had seen meat’s earlier videotweet (whatever they’re called)

    Adam called videos on twitter “twats” in a bubble tweet once. I think TWAT is pretty funny…

  269. Me too! Glad to see Brittney Spears knocked off Miley for #1 on itune sales even if I’m not crazy about the song. Kris is down to #71. Allison’s is about #140. I about to go buy it.

    I guess that’s pop chart. In general chart Kris is #82. Allison’s is #277.

  270. The Script are also appearing on the bill with Kris at that fundraiser thing in Kentucky next week…

  271. On a side note: Wondering if the tweet from Jim C. talking about meat and Adam had something to do with Jim knowing that meatloaf was such a fanboy and had seen meat’s earlier videotweet (whatever they’re called)

    Possibly? My thoughts were elsewhere ;-)

  272. So Danny has finished recording two songs? Didn’t he say something about his label wanting him to knock out 5 songs by the end of September? That seemed awfully unrealistic to me at the time. I wonder if he’s going to be able to have a single out next month — which was the original plan.

  273. On a side note: Wondering if the tweet from Jim C. talking about meat and Adam had something to do with Jim knowing that meatloaf was such a fanboy and had seen meat’s earlier videotweet (whatever they’re called)

    My dirty mind didn’t think of that.

  274. ok, I think I know where Kris gets that dry sense of humor from…his mama!

    allen_kimberly
    #My new red shoes make me feel like dancing…too bad I wore them to work today and they frown on “dancing while you work”.
    about 4 hours ago from Echofon

    charlesbrowder (one of Kris’ BFFs from back home)
    #@allen_kimberly so, are you saying you like brand new shoes? :-)
    about 4 hours ago from Echofon in reply to allen_kimberly

    allen_kimberly
    #@charlesbrowder only when they take me out of that place that I was in that was plagued by men.
    about 2 hours ago from Echofon in reply to charlesbrowder

    LOL!

    EDIT: In case you don’t get the reference, “plagued by men is a line from Kris’ song, “Brand New Shoes”:

    BRAND NEW SHOES CHORUS:

    YOU BROUGHT ME UP AND YOU TOOK ME OUT
    OF THAT PLACE THAT I WAS IN THAT WAS PLAGUED BY MEN
    YOU STOOD BEHIND ME WHEN I WAS COVERED BY THAT SHADOW OF A DOUBT
    I RAN AWAY WHEN YOU CALLED MY NAME
    DOWN THAT ROAD THAT I KNOW BUT IT WAS DARK AND COLD
    AND NOW I NEED SOME BRAND NEW SHOES

    (BTW, there is a YouTube video of Kris’ brother Daniel singing the National Anthem at the UCA football game this past weekend, if anyone cares about that)

  275. Squirrely
    October 8, 2009 at 6:47 pm
    On a side note: Wondering if the tweet from Jim C. talking about meat and Adam had something to do with Jim knowing that meatloaf was such a fanboy and had seen meat’s earlier videotweet (whatever they’re called)

    Possibly? My thoughts were elsewhere

    MIne too :) I figured Jim might have seen the 38 second video…

  276. Did you press the arrow?

    yes Idid. it just changes to a square.

    becausehelives, The only other suggestion I can make is that you might have a volume issue because mine also turns to a square when it is playing.

  277. SIGH .. ok you guy’s made me look at that silly vid.. and I am still woundering where else your thoughts were? Unless it was just in reference to his comment “I am going to do Adam Now”!! Yeah I had the same thought once then I woke up.. :-) Even my dreams don’t work out!!! SIGH still no Music!!!!

  278. Kradam’s picture in the new EW mag article about Simon. Some mentions about the boys…

    Archie looks cute in the new People!

  279. @sidewalkstory, thanks i’ll try again . i thought it was a video. so it’s just audio .

  280. Allison’s single has been pulled out from both iTunes and Amazon. I think someone screwed up and the single wasn’t supposed to be up for sale yet. Someone at Jive must be pissed.

    Don’t know if the link will work, but Allison is on my yahoo home page under ‘most discussed entertainment blog posts’

    http://m.www.yahoo.com/

    Thanks! Yes, it’s there!

  281. Spinastory, I was referencing a Jim C. tweet that was discussed… on another thread here can’t recall where. If I could I would repost for you. The tweet had nothing to do with the video. It just made me think that there really was a reason Jim thought of Adam when he mentioned idk, sandwich meat. It seemed at the time to be a random Adam mention and a weird one.

  282. Thanks for the link, BeckyMD

    Here is the IDF link:
    http://idolforums.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=617387&view=findpost&p=21359817

    So, Ann, who lives in NY and is Jamaican, has an avatar with a picture of herself and Adam. Interesting. Not exactly totally hiding behind some anonymous name like, oh, I don’t know, hippo1313, for example.

    I’m not prepared to completely dismiss this report. And the fact that she thinks the song is killer … well, I take it and sleep better for it.

    Girlygirl and Adamland, seriously, take pictures and tweet. My gut instinct says he’ll be there. It’s a midnight showing for christssakes and doesn’t the Viper Room have a VIP area?

  283. Does the reference to meatloaf by Jim C (if it is) mean the song he (Jim C) was talking about could be Adam’s?

  284. @sidewalkstory, thanks i’ll try again . i thought it was a video. so it’s just audio .

    It is video. It looks like an Apple video. How about going to @RealMeatLoaf twitter page and it is his last tweet. Perhaps the direct hit will work.

  285. Yay, Adam tweet!

    adamlambert At Capitol studios observing full string orchestra recording for one of my songs!! It’s amazing!!!!!

  286. Adam tweets

    At Capitol studios observing full string orchestra recording for one of my songs!! It’s amazing!!!!!

  287. WOW – this doesn’t sound techno

    adamlambert At Capitol studios observing full string orchestra recording for one of my songs!! It’s amazing!!!!!

  288. Allison’s single has been pulled out from both iTunes and Amazon.

    While I can’t find it on Amazon mp3 downloads anymore, it’s still on iTunes for me. Maybe because the iTunes charts rankings are the ones that get talked about?

    ETA: Michael Sarver did tweet this morning that he couldn’t find it on iTunes, maybe it was a momentary glitch — unless it was just a Sarver fail.

  289. ADAM TWEETED!

    At Capitol studios observing full string orchestra recording for one of my songs!! It’s amazing!!!!!
    7 minutes ago from Echofon

    Although — full string orchestra???

  290. adamlambert At Capitol studios observing full string orchestra recording for one of my songs!! It’s amazing!!!!!

    Full string orchestra– seriously? Wow, I’m in full flail mode… Adam’s voice backed by strings… holy crap, this could be incredible.

  291. While I can’t find it on Amazon mp3 downloads anymore, it’s still on iTunes for me. Maybe because the iTunes charts rankings are the ones that get talked about?

    It’s on itunes for me too.

  292. Kris is so focused on finishing his album, when is he going to find time to get ready for his performance on the 15th. I wonder what he will sing. He has already stated that he has never sang LLWD live. LLWD may not be the most appropriate choice for this event.

    It looks like he will get a little more stage time.

    Q102 Bosom Ball Under 21 Soundcheck Party Featuring Kris Allen

  293. jambajim RT @adamlambert: At Capitol studios observing full string orchestra recording for one of my songs!! It’s amazing!!!!! [HEAD EXPLODES!!!!!!!]less than a minute ago from UberTwitter

  294. Adam’s voice backed by strings’ ¦ holy crap, this could be incredible.

    I know! Wow this sounds awesome!

  295. It’s on itunes for me too.

    But you can’t actually buy it. It lets you go through the process and then tells you it’s no longer available.

    You get this message: http://bit.ly/2Rg1uV

  296. Rock/pop songs with full string orchestras on them tend to turn out either really really great — or really really awful. Hopefully it will be the former in this case.

    Adam sounds very excited about this though, so that’s nice

  297. Partial Kris tweet:

    Just finished singing 2 songs for the record. They sound great!

    Partial Gokey tweet:

    So far I have finished 2 songs in the studio & they sound great!!

    Are these two guys channeling each other?

  298. soverymel
    October 8, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    Allison’s single has been pulled out from both iTunes and Amazon.

    While I can’t find it on Amazon mp3 downloads anymore, it’s still on iTunes for me. Maybe because the iTunes charts rankings are the ones that get talked about?

    Yes it is still on Itunes but if you go to purchase it you are told that availability on the song has changed and you can not purchase it at this time.

  299. adamlambert At Capitol studios observing full string orchestra recording for one of my songs!! It’s amazing!!!!!

    squee~~~~brb

  300. terraj
    October 8, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    Hahah does that sound like Aimee Mayo’s song with the cello thing going on?

    HAHA. If it’s Aimee’s song, I GOT YOU THE SCOOP AND YOU ALL OWE ME. MAWHWHWHA.

    Yep, I was thinking Muse. Don’t be dissing the orchestra or you be dissing the muse.

    THANK GOD WE GOT AN ADAM TWEET.

    I am pathetic. I actually dreamed about Adam coming out with a single. Lord.

  301. Producer Rob Cavallo’s thoughts on saving the music biz: ‘Why don’t we make it be more like Dickens?’

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2009/10/producer-rob-cavallos-thoughts-on-saving-the-music-biz-why-dont-we-make-it-be-more-like-dickens.html

    The music industry’s struggles have been well documented, with CD sales facing double-digit declines in sales for much of the past decade. Attending the Future of Music Coalition Policy Summit in Washington, D.C., the Chicago Tribune’s Greg Kot reported that fewer than 6,000 of the 115,000 CDs released in 2008 sold more than 1,000 copies. Cavallo is already looking beyond the album.

    ‘If a band is only going to make a CD, that’s great, but we have to look at it as a little more,’  Cavallo said. ‘I want to explore how bands communicate with their fans, and see that they do it more directly on a weekly, daily basis.’ 

    Cavallo believes the producer is well-equipped to step into an executive role in today’s industry. He spoke of turning the ‘drama’  of making a CD into a sort of Charles Dickens-like series (he couldn’t possibly be alluding to Paramore, could he?), a landscape where artists would have to view every aspect of their career, perhaps even their inter-band relationships, as a money-making possibility.

    ‘It all goes back to what happens in the studio,’  Cavallo said. ‘If a band knows what audience they’re creating for, and how that audience is going to get it, then they can make the content better, and more appropriate for whatever those platforms may be.

    ‘The fan is interested in what’s happening every day. Why don’t we make it be more like Dickens? What’s happening today? Making records is a drama in and of itself. Bands can decide how much and how little they want to put in it, but I know that all the records that have come out of my studio in the past 2 ½ years have had intense drama. People are interested in that. Some of that is private, but a lot of it can be used.’ 

  302. full string orchestra

    Full – not one violin double tracked. Full string orchestra. Adam TM response: !!!!!!!

    Nobody brings in a full string section and then auto-tunes the voice over that. Right?

    And Adam was careful to tweet on ONE of the songs. So we wouldn’t get any fuddy-duddy ideas. But, thank you, this has to mean at least on one track we will actually recognize the singer.

  303. Adam and strings? WOOT

    He sure knows how to keep us under his spell.

  304. Yay, Adam tweet!

    adamlambert At Capitol studios observing full string orchestra recording for one of my songs!! It’s amazing!!!!!

    OH MY… ok I am really going to SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE…

  305. YAY ADAM TWEETED!!!! I.can’t .waaait.!!!!!!!!

    do ya thiink that’d aimee’s song? I hope so

    I gotta go now so can som
    e1

    PLZ CATCH ME UP ON THE THREAD

    thnx .bye:)

  306. HAHA. If it’s Aimee’s song, I GOT YOU THE SCOOP AND YOU ALL OWE ME. MAWHWHWHA.

    Didn’t we go through this yesterday? Remember, lots of people tweeted Aimee. Just not 50 times a day.

  307. Sounds like RCA is spending a ton of Adam’s royalties recording. These days, they mostly just use synth strings. It’s not like the old days when George Martin would routinely bring in orchestras for the Beatles albums.

    I expect Adam’s album to be like a double bananna split with whipped cream, nuts, chocolate sauce, cherries, and extra sprinkles. I doubt anyone will mistake it for the Cowboy Junkies.

  308. Didn’t we go through this yesterday? Remember, lots of people tweeted Aimee. Just not 50 times a day.

    Now that made me laugh out loud! I needed one of those today!

  309. Well, it seems the boy is living up to his promise that the album will be eclectic. This is awesome news!!!

  310. If Kris wasn’t busy working on his own album, he could have taken the viola part on this full string orchestra session for Adam’s song.

    Oh well…

    Has TFM been fully recorded and mastered yet? I was thinking the orchestra session could be for the soundtrack song, rather than for something on Adam’s album.

    Or not…

  311. Nobody brings in a full string section and then auto-tunes the voice over that. Right?

    Oh, yeah. They could do that.

    I could be wrong, but I actually don’t expect them to autotune the snot out of Adam’s vocals. The thing that makes him distinctive is that the dude can really sing. Even coked up record producers are going to figure out that it would be stupid to make him sound like Justin Timberlake. I do, however, expect a very heavily produced, over-the-top wall-of-sound album. It’s be the sonic equivalent of a 4th of July fireworks extravaganza.

  312. Popping in from RL — needed a laugh!! Thanks BestAI. LOL

    BestAI
    October 8, 2009 at 6:10 pm
    Still no announcement when Adam’s single will be heard/released? No radio gigs to promote his single. No giigs lined up. Are they just going to suddenly announce ‘” Oh here is Adam’s single, and he will be on the radio on 00.0 fm in five minutes. Be sure to tune in. Oh, it’s passed, sorry you missed it. And Adam will be appearing in Podunk City tonite (oh, actually it’s happening now). Mark your calendars. Oh, it’s over, but be sure to catch him at the next show when it won’t announce either. Hope you’re psychic so you won’t miss that one too.

    Interesting note: I rec’d an email this morning that David Cook is going to be here in Dallas on November 8 !! Yay! (with The Script) huh? Are they opening for him? I don’t keep up with anything but Adam threads but I have given up on Adam news…..

  313. I seriously doubt that being the third best hgh school viola player in the entire effin’ state of Arkansas, by god, would land you much session work in LA. The kid probably didn’t even do summers at Interlochen

  314. sidewalkstory
    October 8, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    HAHA. If it’s Aimee’s song, I GOT YOU THE SCOOP AND YOU ALL OWE ME. MAWHWHWHA.

    Didn’t we go through this yesterday? Remember, lots of people tweeted Aimee. Just not 50 times a day.

    But I tweeted about the CELLO!!!

    *sulking again*

    BTW, if you think I am obsessive…I am not…no…am not…AM NOT….

    lol on the cowboy junkies. RCA is pinning A LOT OF MONEY on Iconic!Adam, that’s for sure.

    *waiting to hear some leakage, any leakage, dear God*

    ETA: snicker, hwc, snicker

  315. hwc
    October 8, 2009 at 8:10 pm
    Sounds like RCA is spending a ton of Adam’s royalties recording. These days, they mostly just use synth strings. It’s not like the old days when George Martin would routinely bring in orchestras for the Beatles albums.

    I expect Adam’s album to be like a double bananna split with whipped cream, nuts, chocolate sauce, cherries, and extra sprinkles. I doubt anyone will mistake it for the Cowboy Junkies.

    Oooooh …. I like your analogy. You’re a keeper!!

  316. hwc
    October 8, 2009 at 8:16 pm
    I seriously doubt that being the third best hgh school viola player in the entire effin’ state of Arkansas, by god, would land you much session work in LA.

    I think girlygirl was probably teasing!

  317. I expect Adam’s album to be like a double bananna split with whipped cream, nuts, chocolate sauce, cherries, and extra sprinkles. I doubt anyone will mistake it for the Cowboy Junkies.

    Don’t forget the meat(loaf)!!!!

  318. LMAO hwc, you kill me. Adam said he was going to have some ballads on his album, a full strings backing would be amazing. I would imagine the 2012 song is finished, since the video has already been shot.

  319. I wonder if Adam could record Come Home with full orchestration…

    Srsly, I’m thinking Muse.

  320. Sounds like RCA is spending a ton of Adam’s royalties recording. These days, they mostly just use synth strings. It’s not like the old days when George Martin would routinely bring in orchestras for the Beatles albums.

    So this is not something that has been done for tracks on earlier Idols’ albums?

    (AI newbie here.)

  321. adamlambert At Capitol studios observing full string orchestra recording for one of my songs!! It’s amazing!!!!!

    I am holding my breath. Please some music before I turn blue.

  322. I just hope they don’t drown out his voice like they did on the ToMT recording. That was such a lost opportunity.

  323. larc
    October 8, 2009 at 7:57 pm
    Partial Kris tweet:

    Just finished singing 2 songs for the record. They sound great!

    Partial Gokey tweet:

    So far I have finished 2 songs in the studio & they sound great!!

    Are these two guys channeling each other?

    Ooh, maybe it’s the same two songs :)

  324. So we know according to Meat Loaf there is drums..

    And now strings.

    Has any idol album had strings? Could this be TFM?

  325. I do, however, expect a very heavily produced, over-the-top wall-of-sound album. It’s be the sonic equivalent of a 4th of July fireworks extravaganza.

    Oooooo…….aaahhhhhhhh!

  326. I would imagine the 2012 song is finished, since the video has already been shot.

    That was my thought. And no doubt this track with the full string orchestra has already made the album. Otherwise, why go to all that expense?

  327. It’s be the sonic equivalent of a 4th of July fireworks extravaganza.

    Oooooo’ ¦’ ¦.aaahhhhhhhh!

    LMAO!

  328. sr4mjc
    October 8, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    So we know according to Meat Loaf there is drums..

    And now strings.

    Has any idol album had strings? Could this be TFM?

    Don’t think so….as someone pointed out already they did the music video for the song already. TFM had to be completed.


  329. I would imagine the 2012 song is finished, since the video has already been shot.

    That was my thought. And no doubt this track with the full string orchestra has already made the album. Otherwise, why go to all that expense?

    Agreed.

    *jumping up and down at full orchestration*

    Maybe they really are still laying down tracks for Adam’s album. I think it would be funny if this was for Strut. ;)

  330. Has any idol album had strings? Could this be TFM?

    I know you are not asking about past year’s idols, but just for informational purposes, David Cook’s song “Permanent” has Strings and Piano accompaniment on his album. It’s just freakin’ beautiful.

    ETA: And it was done with live strings in the studio, in only two takes. Everyone became very emotional during the tracking of that song.

    For those not familiar with “Permanent”, here it is on youtube.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_68P6DNCkM

  331. dhunken
    October 8, 2009 at 8:23 pm
    I do, however, expect a very heavily produced, over-the-top wall-of-sound album. It’s be the sonic equivalent of a 4th of July fireworks extravaganza.

    Oooooo’ ¦’ ¦.aaahhhhhhhh!

    YES!!!

  332. I agree that the orchestration is more likely for the soundtrack.

    But he said “At Capitol studios observing full string orchestra recording for one of my songs!! It’s amazing!!!!!”

    I think that would have to be for his album.

  333. Percocet, has pretty good insider information. Mgr (Barry and Clive) infighting and wagering over at SONY. Troublesome message – Barry who has a soft spot for Jive thinks he got the better two idols, Kris and Allison. Even thought Barry is in charge of the whole operation, Clive works for RCA. Adam is stuck with Clive at RCA. Scary!!!!!!!!!!!!!Worrisome!!!!!!!!!!!!

  334. Strut…right, right, step…strut…left, left, turn….I hope not (full orchestra for Strut just boggles my mind )

  335. ummmmm how do you Strut to a orchestra.. lol.. I’ll leave that to Adam to figure out…ahahhahah

  336. Dallas – in case no one answered your question up above, yes, The Script is opening for David Cook

  337. This dude is evidently at press junket screening of 2012

    ThatChrisGore
    #Headed to the drunket screening of 2012. Yay for drunkets! http://twitpic.com/kru9t
    15 minutes ago from Echofon

    Wonder if he stays through the credits and mentions anything about TFM…

  338. girlygirl
    October 8, 2009 at 6:14 pm

    adamland

    are you on twitter? if you are, I can follow you, & send you a tweet, then you can DM me with an email address. Or you can follow me (twitter.com/tmg84) send me a tweet and I can DM you’ ¦

    I’m lindsav on Twitter.

  339. girlygirl
    October 8, 2009 at 8:21 pm
    I was teasing’ ¦

    Adam, is it you?

  340. Sounds like RCA is spending a ton of Adam’s royalties recording. These days, they mostly just use synth strings. It’s not like the old days when George Martin would routinely bring in orchestras for the Beatles albums.

    It must be the real deal, hwc. Why would Adam tweet “orchestra” if it wasn’t quite the full chairs? And he said “observing”. Which is very hands off. So he must be there for the show. And a full string orchestra is quite a show.

    wall-of-sound

    So while I agree with you that (unfortunately, IMHO) there will be no electronic doo-dad, diddle, knob twist, button push, track-a-rama-layer-it-on-overdo spared on the finished product, because “mess and manipulate”‘ seems to be what producers think they’re supposed to do these days, I also hope you’re right that even the techno obsessed will recognize this guy can sing, so at least half the time maybe we should feature that. Okay, half is optimistic. (even if your other half, halfie, might not feel that way.) But how about twice? One track out of 12 recognizable as Adam’s voice track with strings, one without. Too much to ask?

  341. Maria22
    October 8, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    Strut’ ¦right, right, step’ ¦strut’ ¦left, left, turn’ ¦.I hope not (full orchestra for Strut just boggles my mind )

    Boggles my mind too….Just can’t see a song called Strut having a full orchestra. The orchestra thing reminds me of Muse too..but also Queen and Meatloaf. All Good!!! :-)

  342. girlygirl

    October 8, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    This dude is evidently at press junket screening of 2012

    ThatChrisGore
    #Headed to the drunket screening of 2012. Yay for drunkets! http://twitpic.com/kru9t
    15 minutes ago from Echofon

    Wonder if he stays through the credits and mentions anything about TFM

    Exactly what I was thinking….

  343. 2012 review on IMDB

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1190080/

    The special effects and the main parts of the cast had some of the worst quality I have ever seen. Other then John Cusack’s performance, everything was as dull as an gloomy morning mist.

    As to how people react towards the events they encountered, I think it is most unlikely that they would react in that manner, or to react anywhere like that. All the reactions seemed over-exaggerated and taken far beyond normal human behavior.

    This film simply doesn’t stand up to any criteria of good quality and was awful to watch. Hadn’t it been because of the massive over-rating of this film it probably never would’ve been mentioned.

  344. Girlygirl and Adamland, seriously, take pictures and tweet. My gut instinct says he’ll be there. It’s a midnight showing for christssakes and doesn’t the Viper Room have a VIP area?

    Laurel G and mmr – Yes we will (unless forced by security to stop) and yes it does !!!

  345. So this is not something that has been done for tracks on earlier Idols’ albums?

    Most Idol winners CDs have pretty big budget recordings, I don’t know about Idol runner ups, I’ve never listened to one.

    Taylor Hicks’ album had one band for the whole thing and they were among the top session guys in the business. I’m talking guys who had recorded and toured with EVERYONE.

    It’s just that most Idol CDs are geared towards formula teen pop, formula R&B pop, or formula country pop and, thus, wouldn’t have strings. Battlefied and that single by the kid who won Idol this year both have synth pop strings.

  346. smokeyvera
    October 8, 2009 at 8:29 pm
    Percocet, has pretty good insider information. Mgr (Barry and Clive) infighting and wagering over at SONY. Troublesome message ‘“ Barry who has a soft spot for Jive thinks he got the better two idols, Kris and Allison. Even thought Barry is in charge of the whole operation, Clive works for RCA. Adam is stuck with Clive at RCA. Scary!!!!!!!!!!!!!Worrisome!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Actually, Clive Davis is the Chief Creative Officer of Sony Music Entertainment Worldwide, not RCA. If you read the press release when they signed Adam, I really don’t think they feel they’re “stuck” with him. If they did, he wouldn’t be getting the producers and collaboraters he’s been getting. Don’t worry, look at the positive, it takes two idols to equal one Adam..LOL.

  347. I also hope you’re right that even the techno obsessed will recognize this guy can sing, so at least half the time maybe we should feature that. Okay, half is optimistic. (even if your other half, halfie, might not feel that way.) But how about twice? One track out of 12 recognizable as Adam’s voice track with strings, one without. Too much to ask?

    I think there could be a strong possibility that they won’t mess too much with his vocals as most of the people who have worked with him on the album have twitted about his vocals in a positive way. (EA: he has some pipes, Song the Sh_t out of the song) I am pretty sure some of them included the producers Techs…..or I am hoping so much they don’t my mind is making this all up… ;-)

  348. This film simply doesn’t stand up to any criteria of good quality and was awful to watch. Hadn’t it been because of the massive over-rating of this film it probably never would’ve been mentioned.

    SUCKAGE. But what about the music? :)

    ETA: Permanent is my favorite song on Cook’s album. Lie is second.

    In other news, Aimee has a date tonight.

  349. It’s just that most Idol CDs are geared towards formula teen pop, formula R&B pop, or formula country pop and, thus, wouldn’t have strings. Battlefied and that single by the kid who won Idol this year both have synth pop strings.

    The Strings must be formula Adam. :-)

  350. smokeyvera
    October 8, 2009 at 8:29 pm
    Percocet, has pretty good insider information. Mgr (Barry and Clive) infighting and wagering over at SONY. Troublesome message ‘“ Barry who has a soft spot for Jive thinks he got the better two idols, Kris and Allison. Even thought Barry is in charge of the whole operation, Clive works for RCA. Adam is stuck with Clive at RCA. Scary!!!!!!!!!!!!!Worrisome!!!!!!!!!!!!

    You do realize this was another made-up story from Percocet. P had me going one time, also. It’s a joke!

  351. Here is more about the screening:

    FRANNY80134 : movie 2012 is screening tonight in JACKSON HOLE, WYOMING. maybe someone will leak ADAM LAMBERT’S song……. 8 minutes ago from TweetDeck

    Yeah, Adam as muse/queen with orchestra- rock ballad-Yippee!!!!

  352. 2012 will be nothing but an abomination with eye-candy….sorta like Transformers 2.

  353. You do realize this was another made-up story from Percocet. P had me going one time, also. It’s a joke!

    Ummm..it’s the friggin’ plot to Trading Places, isn’t it?? Wonder if we’ll see Clive and Barry in an alley digging through a dumpster at the end of all this..LOL

  354. 2012 will be nothing but an abomination with eye-candy’ ¦.sorta like Transformers 2.

    I agree

  355. 4evrmomof4
    October 8, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    Here is more about the screening:

    FRANNY80134 : movie 2012 is screening tonight in JACKSON HOLE, WYOMING. maybe someone will leak ADAM LAMBERT’S song’ ¦’ ¦. 8 minutes ago from TweetDeck

    Yeah, Adam as muse/queen with orchestra- rock ballad-Yippee!!!!

    SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

    4evrmomof4, how do you keep track of this stuff?

    Oh, and I have tweeted 22,393 times. ;)

  356. Just searched Twitter for “Jackson Hole” where screening is. Looking for clueless weak links who wouldn’t know the potential short term instant follower opportunity of TFM. One suspect identified. That many drunk people in Jackson Hole, someone will want the hits and tweet.

    ETA: Journalists on Junket like to tweet. So far at least ten.

  357. Me too! Glad to see Brittney Spears knocked off Miley for #1 on itune sales even if I’m not crazy about the song.

    Is it possible they could both be knocked off … by the mafia?

    ETA: Permanent is my favorite song on Cook’s album. Lie is second.

    And amazingly neither of them were singles. It’s like RCA said, here we have this really talented guy. How can we screw it for him?

  358. ETA: Permanent is my favorite song on Cook’s album. Lie is second.

    And amazingly neither of them were singles. It’s like RCA said, here we have this really talented guy. How can we screw it for him?

    See…THIS is my concern about Adam and RCA. They picked LO and CBTM, two of the weakest tracks on the album, and released them about four months apart. Does not inspire confidence.

  359. dhunken
    October 8, 2009 at 8:35 pm
    Maria22
    October 8, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    Strut’ ¦right, right, step’ ¦strut’ ¦left, left, turn’ ¦.I hope not (full orchestra for Strut just boggles my mind )

    Boggles my mind too’ ¦.Just can’t see a song called Strut having a full orchestra. The orchestra thing reminds me of Muse too..but also Queen and Meatloaf. All Good!!!

    Not to mention Page and Plant with a full orchestra on their last tour (quite a few years ago….)

  360. 2012 will be nothing but an abomination with eye-candy’ ¦.sorta like Transformers 2.

    ….and the problem with that is….Transformers made over 800 million dollars world wide….2012 movie for me (for you) will be a platform (like Idol) that helps showcase Adam’s amazing vocals to a wider audience. Now if he was starring in it I would be a little more concerned of the Quality of the movie. Really not looking for Citizen Kane here.

  361. We have company in our fandom:

    OfficialAudrina @adamlambert i cannot wait to hear a sneak peek of ur new songs!!!! so excited for the album:) 7 minutes ago from mobile web

    I’v tweeted 646 times, not quite as much as suebrody! LOL

  362. 4evermomof4: I went to a special advanced screening of a movie a couple of years ago and they had metal detector wands. (I’m not kidding) Cell phones had to be left in the car and movie representatives (and two policemen) stood and watched us watch the movie. They may do this at all advanced screenings. IDK?

  363. Oh, and I have tweeted 22,393 times

    wow. how many per day did it come out to? 50? 75? lol.

  364. The thread titles for 2012 at that link are pretty hilarious. The ones with the most posts are People were Laughing at the Preview and The Worst Special Effects Ever. I don’t see any headed Great Song by Adam At the End. Maybe everyone just fled when it was over.

    It appears to be a huge stinker but some of those do make $.

  365. See’ ¦THIS is my concern about Adam and RCA. They picked LO and CBTM, two of the weakest tracks on the album, and released them about four months apart. Does not inspire confidence.

    I wouldn’t worry. RCA is very ass backwards.

  366. I have good internet investigate skills-use it a lot for work as I sell internet related services & to investigate ways to help my son with his autism & other medical probs

  367. Is it possible they could both be knocked off ‘ ¦ by the mafia?

    That would be nice but if I have to choose one over the other, I would take Brittney anyday over Miley. Her voice just grates my nerves.

  368. jpfan
    October 8, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    The thread titles for 2012 at that link are pretty hilarious. The ones with the most posts are People all Laughed at the Preview and The Worst Special Effects Ever. I don’t see any headed Great Song by Adam At the End though. Maybe everyone just fled when it was over.

    It appears to be a huge stinker but some of those do make $.

    Question: On these pre-screenings could it be possible be that things like songs and some editing still needs to be done before the actual release date. Also just a big stretch here-Are we sure that all these supposed people really did get to see a pre screening already? Isn’t pre screenings usually done in one area (usually LA) and I find it hard to believe that no one liked the movie at all. I am going with my original prediction that 2012 will do huge numbers in the foreign market and moderately here in the US. It will be like Angels and Demons.

  369. Ok, so it doesn’t sound like it’s for one of Aimee Mayo’s songs:

    From MissGoLightly22:

    @AimeeMayo Your song? RT adamlambert At Capitol studios observing full string orchestra recording for one of my songs!! It’s amazing!!!!!

    Response from Aimee:

    @MissGolightly22 I wish.

    ETA: dhunken, thanks for your acts of heroism last night. I had gone metaphysical and you brought me back to reality. :)

  370. Isn’t pre screenings usually done in one area (usually LA)

    They do them in NYC too. Sometimes as focus groups.

  371. It’s not Amy’s song..this was sent to Amy by Missgolightly22

    @AimeeMayo Your song? RT adamlambert At Capitol studios observing full string orchestra recording for one of my songs!! It’s amazing!!!!!
    about 1 hour ago from web in reply to AimeeMayo

    Amy’s answer

    @MissGolightly22 I wish.
    24 minutes ago from Twitterena

  372. How many people pay attention to the closing credits. I don’t. I usually just want to leave the theatre before the mob especially if I’ve just seen a long crappy movie which 2012 appears to be.

  373. How many people pay attention to the closing credits. I don’t? I usually just want to leave the threatre before the mob especially if I’ve just seen a long crappy movie which 2012 appears to be.

    In Manhattan people usually stay for the credits. I would expect the same for LA.

  374. Lots of people do, especially since they started adding additional scenes during and after the credits.

  375. jpfan,
    sucky film that looks like it is 2 hrs 40 min long, all I can think of is Transformers2

  376. I just to laugh at this tweet from Anoop:

    anoopdoggdesai

    #I need to find a gym in this city stat.
    29 minutes ago from web

    Um…he’s in Los Angeles — there’s a zillion gyms in this city!

  377. Audrina Patridge from The Hills:

    @adamlambert i cannot wait to hear a sneak peek of ur new songs!!!! so excited for the album:) (via @OfficialAudrina)
    3 minutes ago from

  378. Tonight’s screening is a press junket, though — and it’s in Jackson Hole, Wyoming

  379. Where I live, lots of people stay for the credits, but then there are a lot of people in the film industry here.

    Oftentimes, screenings still have a temporary music track, especially if the real one isn’t quite finished.

    ETA: If it is a press junket, it is probably the real music.

  380. Where I live, lots of people stay for the credits, but then there are a lot of people in the film industry here.

    Oftentimes, screenings still have a temporary music track, especially if the real one isn’t quite finished.

  381. dhunken
    October 8, 2009 at 8:35 pm
    Maria22
    October 8, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    Strut’ ¦right, right, step’ ¦strut’ ¦left, left, turn’ ¦.I hope not (full orchestra for Strut just boggles my mind )

    Boggles my mind too’ ¦.Just can’t see a song called Strut having a full orchestra. The orchestra thing reminds me of Muse too..but also Queen and Meatloaf. All Good!!!

    How about this?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iFTSb47dBQ
    ok, maybe not a full orchestra :D

  382. jpfan
    October 8, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    How many people pay attention to the closing credits. I don’t. I usually just want to leave the theatre before the mob especially if I’ve just seen a long crappy movie which 2012 appears to be.

    Have to agree with this!..but I know a lot of others who do stay…I have had to do a Bugs Bunny to them…..(pardon me…excuse me…Pardon me…excuse me)

  383. If the movie is almost 3 hours long maybe someone’s butt will fall asleep and they’ll have trouble getting out of their chair when it’s over and thus hear the song. I hope so because this news blackout on Adam’s music is becoming very annoying.

  384. ‘ ¦.and the problem with that is’ ¦.Transformers made over 800 million dollars world wide’ ¦.

    2012 won’t come within sniffing distance of that. No big names. No well-known franchise. Awful reviews & impressions so far.

    This movie will definitely bomb.

  385. How many people pay attention to the closing credits. I don’t. I usually just want to leave the theatre before the mob especially if I’ve just seen a long crappy movie which 2012 appears to be.

    In So. California? Everybody!

  386. I went to that forum on the Movie 2012 and from what I can put together most of the post are based only on the preview clip and from what I can gather only 2 people say they saw the movie and they just became IMDb member the day they posted.

  387. Tony
    October 8, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    ‘ ¦.and the problem with that is’ ¦.Transformers made over 800 million dollars world wide’ ¦.

    2012 won’t come within sniffing distance of that. No big names. No well-known franchise. Awful reviews & impressions so far.

    This movie will definitely bomb.

    Please don’t take this personally…but I am really hoping you are wrong! ;-)

  388. In So. California? Everybody!

    Everywhere else, hardly anyone. Got to beat the herd to the bathroom.
    I understand Adam’s fans are interested in his song but I’ll bet most wouldn’t stay for the credits for any other reason.

  389. VAlilac
    October 8, 2009 at 9:43 pm
    dhunken
    October 8, 2009 at 8:35 pm
    Maria22
    October 8, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    Strut’ ¦right, right, step’ ¦strut’ ¦left, left, turn’ ¦.I hope not (full orchestra for Strut just boggles my mind )

    Boggles my mind too’ ¦.Just can’t see a song called Strut having a full orchestra. The orchestra thing reminds me of Muse too..but also Queen and Meatloaf. All Good!!!

    How about this?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iFTSb47dBQ
    ok, maybe not a full orchestra

    TOUCHE ! Point taken! :)

  390. From Twitter, on 2012:

    unclelaird Last night during the 2012 preview, after the shot of the Christ The Redeemer statue crumbling, the whole theatre yelled
    “Take that, Rio!”

    Thanks v much for the info hwc. Given that they use some of the best songwriters + producers + session musicians in the business, it’s very surprising that the universal complaint about Idols’ first albums seems to be that the results are bland and homogenised.

  391. Lots of movies with awful reviews make money because for some reason people still go see them, especially if the movie is marketed well.

    In any case, there will still be plenty of people outside of the AI bubble hearing Adam’s song because of the movie.

    And he will get some nice royalty checks for years to come. :)

  392. I hope so because this news blackout on Adam’s music is becoming very annoying.

    I’m finding it exciting because I just know we’re going to be blown away when we finally do hear something. I don’t want to hear little bits and pieces, I want to hear the brilliance in it’s entirety. I’ve never understood how you can judge anything on little snippets.

  393. And he will get some nice royalty checks for years to come.

    I’m pretty sure only the writers of the song get those checks. But the song could be good even if the movie its from kind of sucks.

  394. I’m finding it exciting because I just know we’re going to be blown away when we finally do hear something.

    Clearone , I hope so. I really want him to do well.

  395. In So. California? Everybody!

    Everywhere else, hardly anyone. Got to beat the herd to the bathroom.

    jpfan, I’ve already said that people in Manhattan also stay.

  396. clearone
    October 8, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    I hope so because this news blackout on Adam’s music is becoming very annoying.

    I’m finding it exciting because I just know we’re going to be blown away when we finally do hear something. I don’t want to hear little bits and pieces, I want to hear the brilliance in it’s entirety. I’ve never understood how you can judge anything on little snippets.

    Well said Clearone!!!!!

  397. sidewalkstory
    October 8, 2009 at 10:02 pm
    In So. California? Everybody!

    Everywhere else, hardly anyone. Got to beat the herd to the bathroom.

    jpfan, I’ve already said that people in Manhattan also stay.

    In Vancouver, it depends on the movie and the age of the people attending, probably a bit over half stay…

  398. Lots of movies with awful reviews make money because for some reason people still go see them, especially if the movie is marketed well.

    Hello everyone. Taking a break from RL.

    Many of action and special effects movies get very poor reviews. This usually doesn’t stop them from making millions. I disregard movie reviews on these types of flicks. Word of mouth is a better indicator. Critics reveiw everthing as though thery are expecting an Oscar contender.

    Strings — I hope Adam’s song are good because they are spending a lot of money. Sorry Aimee, it doesn’t sound like it was your song.

  399. I don’t know if this is the case with the earlier tweet from that guy going to the premiere, but this guy says he is only seeing 12 minutes of it:

    Nafkman: Off to watch a special screening of the first 12 minutes of Roland Emmerich’s 2012.

  400. Kris just tweeted:

    KrisAllen4real

    #Man I love my job.
    8 minutes ago from Echofon

    And followed that up with…

    #Ok sorry I’ll be pc. People, I love my job.
    5 minutes ago from Echofon

    Aww, he’s happy!

    But did someone tweet him complaining about the way he phrased that first tweet? LOL

  401. I’m finding it exciting because I just know we’re going to be blown away when we finally do hear something.

    Clearone , I hope so. I really want him to do well.

    I think we all do! He sounds so excited by it all and because of that I’m excited for him and am very optimistic.

  402. Strings ‘” I hope Adam’s song are good because they are spending a lot of money. Sorry Aimee, it doesn’t sound like it was your song.

    ROTFL I promise not to tell her. I don’t want to ruin her date. ;)

    ETA: ONLY FIRST 12 MINUTES??? TFM is the closing song, I believe. Sadness.

  403. CindyM
    October 8, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    Lots of people do, especially since they started adding additional scenes during and after the credits.

    I’m in L.A. and I find that more and more people are staying while the credits roll – I stay for additional scenes and to not get caught in the “herd” running out the door.

  404. Kris just tweeted:

    KrisAllen4real

    #Man I love my job.
    8 minutes ago from Echofon

    And followed that up with’ ¦

    #Ok sorry I’ll be pc. People, I love my job.
    5 minutes ago from Echofon

    Aww, he’s happy!

    But did someone tweet him complaining about the way he phrased that first tweet? LOL

    Geez, if somebody did they really need to get a life. How petty!

  405. LOL, girlygirl For me for you for me.

    It should have been:

    My job people love I. ;)

    I would be excited for Adam BUT I AM TOO TIRED WAITING FOR THE FIRESTORM. Watch. I’ll take a RL break over the weekend and THAT is when all the news will hit. (Hopefully, not till next week.)

  406. In Vancouver, it depends on the movie and the age of the people attending, probably a bit over half stay’ ¦

    Now that I think about it, you are a movie city too. Lots of production there.

  407. So I bought my ticket to the Cassidy Haley show at The Viper Room Sunday. It specifically says no cameras or video allowed …

  408. So I bought my ticket to the Cassidy Haley show at The Viper Room Sunday. It specifically says no cameras or video allowed ‘ ¦

    Cassidy was complaining that there was a $600 charge just for bringing any videotaping equip into the room.

  409. So I bought my ticket to the Cassidy Haley show at The Viper Room Sunday. It specifically says no cameras or video allowed ‘ ¦

    I am not sure that Cassidy fits in Mjs blog, but I would be interested in a recap.

  410. what a thrill for Adam!

    Capitol Studios & Mastering

    Welcome to Capitol Studios & Mastering – the historic recording studio housed at the famous Capitol Records building in Los Angeles. We are the home of great recordings from iconic artists such as Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Nat King Cole, The Beach Boys, and Green Day. In addition, we are host to some of the most exciting up-and-coming musical talent of today.

    http://www.capitolstudios.com/index.cfm?page=home

    interesting website

    The Capitol Studios complex opened in the Capitol Records Building, a futuristic new building in the heart of Hollywood, in 1956. It has since hosted some of the most treasured recordings in music history, from Frank Sinatra to the Beastie Boys. It has been owned by Capitol Records whose parent company is EMI.
    The Capitol Records Building, also known as the ‘Capitol Records Tower’ is a Hollywood, California landmark. The building was designed by Welton Becket, noted architect.

    The studio A and studio B can be used together to make space for 75 musicians to record orchestral and soundtrack music.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_Studios

  411. So I bought my ticket to the Cassidy Haley show at The Viper Room Sunday. It specifically says no cameras or video allowed ‘ ¦

    I’ve been there before. If they catch you videoing they will throw you out, no warning.
    I am jealous! I wanted to go so bad until I saw he was the midnight band. No can do! Have fun!

  412. Blake Lewis is at The Roxy tonight. People on twitter are wondering if Adam is going to be there since he’s so close.

  413. Gene Simmons is a bad influence

    capricecrane A Boston man pissed on the woman in front of him during a KISS concert. Isn’t seeing KISS in 2009 already kinda like being pissed on?

  414. girlygirl
    October 8, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    So I bought my ticket to the Cassidy Haley show at The Viper Room Sunday. It specifically says no cameras or video allowed ‘ ¦

    Oh maybe because Adam will be there as a special guest and sing….It could happen…really…..Oh ok welll maybe he’ll phone in like he did at the Upright Cafe on New Years Eve….Oh I’m desperate and I am not even going. :oops: Hope you have a great time Girlygirl

  415. Blake would like a special guest.

    BlakeLewis RT @shirleyhalperin: Wouldn’t it be cool if @adamlambert showed up at @BlakeLewis’ show @theroxy tonight? Just sayin’… Yeah it would

  416. RT @shirleyhalperin: Wouldn’t it be cool if @adamlambert showed up at @BlakeLewis’ show @theroxy tonight? Just sayin’… Yeah it would10 minutes ago from Echofon

    We lurrrrve Blake!

    Squirrely, stop being faster than me! I am multi-tasking; watching the Red Sox game and tweeting. ;)

  417. Isn’t seeing KISS in 2009 already kinda like being pissed on?

    ROTFLMAO

  418. But did someone tweet him complaining about the way he phrased that first tweet? LOL

    Nope, I looked through the all the tweets after that first one (I’m bored. Don’t judge.) and everyone was extremely supportive, basically all “I love YOU man” and “I love how you love your job.” A few minutes after the second tweet, there was a snarky one saying “But how dare you be prejudiced against aliens?!” LOL.

    The only thing close to a negative in Kris’ @replies are people begging him for a @reply or DM, or complaining that he hasn’t yet.

  419. I saw one negative reply to Kris basically saying he should be happy since his job was handed to him and that Adam should’ve won.

    Sigh…

    Other than that, the general reaction in the @ replies was along the lines of AWWWW…

    But maybe someone DM’d him or someone who was right there when he tweeted it said something about being PC.

    Of course, with the random and sometimes strange way Kris’ mind works, who knows?

  420. I sawas one negative reply to Kris basically saying he should be happy since his job was handed to him and that Adam should’ve won.

    ….and that ‘twit’ probably has the nerve to call themselves an Adam fan. Pathetic.

  421. I wouldn’t count on Adam showing up at Blake’s release party. That starts at 8 p.m. and Adam seems to have been working late into the night with his recording stuff.

    It would be nice if he showed up, but I don’t think he even went to Cheeks’ birthday party, did he?

    I can definitely see Adam going to Allison’s and Kris’ release parties when those happen — and vice versa. But they are all with the same management, so that makes sense even if they weren’t all really close friends.

    Is Blake with 19?

  422. I saw one negative reply to Kris basically saying he should be happy since his job was handed to him and that Adam should’ve won.

    Ugh, I didn’t see that one. Not cool. But luckily balanced out with 100’s of positive ones.

  423. CindyM
    October 8, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    wellhesback
    October 8, 2009 at 10:08 pm
    it takes two idols to equal one Adam..

    Uh,,,No, just no.

    Uh,,,It was just a joke.

    That’s how I took it

  424. Does anyone have the new Entertainment Weekly that supposedly has a 2-page spread talking about Idol/XFactor/BGT releases?

    teamaims(a self-described AI superfan) tweeted this:

    #There’s a 2 page article in Entertainment Weekly about Idol/Xfactor/BGT releases, but the main thing is that it talks a lil about KRIS ALLEN
    about 3 hours ago from web
    #From EW: Kris Allen’s single seems to be lagging early in numbers (boo to them. it’s the end results that matter) BUT…It’s early and response to the song has been “phenomenal” at Z100 according to program director Sharon Dastur. YAY!!!!
    about 2 hours ago from web

    I’m looking for confirmation that the Z-100 program director is quoted on LLWD saying that the response has been “phenomenal”

  425. Kris is cool. Slezak and Cantiello have his back.

    It’s cool and comforting to have someone have your back. For Adam, per an interview, he hopes its his fans. It’s scary out there when you are so awesome that sometiimes people think you don’t need to have the support so they pour it all on the underdog. Awesome people have their insecurities too. I’m glad that Adam is getting a WLL.

  426. I wouldn’t count on Adam showing up at Blake’s release party. That starts at 8 p.m. and Adam seems to have been working late into the night with his recording stuff.

    Not only that, but The Roxy has a back entrance and a VIP room so he could be there and no one would even know it.
    But if he goes to The Viper Room, to see Cassidy, there are only two ways in and they both have to go through the main room. There is a VIP room but you still have to walk through the main room to get there. If he goes to The Viper, I’d expect he would just be out and about. It’s very small and he would not have to deal with a lot of crazy fans. I wonder if the paps know about the Cassidy connection with Adam?

  427. girlygirl
    October 8, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    So I bought my ticket to the Cassidy Haley show at The Viper Room Sunday. It specifically says no cameras or video allowed ‘ ¦

    It’s too bad for us but hopefully we get a good spot when we get there and will recap for you guys.

  428. Lyndsay is in LA right? I wonder if she will go see Cassidy? Might give her brownie points with Adam.

  429. True, readon, re: Adam. I think 200,000 tweeters can’t be wrong. ;)

    Have a great time at the concert on Saturday night! I will be at the Cook show and will share. :) I suspect there is no issue w/ recording devices, etc., but all I can do is tweet, anyway.

  430. I wonder if the paps know about the Cassidy connection with Adam?

    They will if they read the blogs……..

  431. I’m pretty sure all the kids have think enough skin to handle what comes their way through twitter. They better, or they’re in the wrong business.

  432. sidewalkstory
    October 8, 2009 at 10:16 pm
    In Vancouver, it depends on the movie and the age of the people attending, probably a bit over half stay’ ¦

    Now that I think about it, you are a movie city too. Lots of production there.

    Yes, it sure does…

  433. Nafkman: Off to watch a special screening of the first 12 minutes of Roland Emmerich’s 2012.

    It makes more sense to me that the viewing would not be the full movie. It is too close to the release date to show the full movie, I think. If it were some kind of focus group, this seems too late in the game to make any significant changes. At this point, if the producers thought this was a real stinker, they would be delaying release or limiting views so that critical reviews would not affect opening day.

  434. pj
    October 8, 2009 at 11:00 pm
    I’m pretty sure all the kids have think enough skin to handle what comes their way through twitter. They better, or they’re in the wrong business.

    I agree, still it’s nice to have support…

  435. readon
    October 8, 2009 at 11:01 pm
    Nafkman: Off to watch a special screening of the first 12 minutes of Roland Emmerich’s 2012.

    It makes more sense to me that the viewing would not be the full movie. It is too close to the release date to show the full movie, I think. If it were some kind of focus group, this seems too late in the game to make any significant changes. At this point, if the producers thought this was a real stinker, they would be delaying release or limiting views so that critical reviews would not affect opening day.

    Yes, that makes a lot of sense, look how many films get delayed while they fiddle with them…

  436. pj
    October 8, 2009 at 11:00 pm
    I’m pretty sure all the kids have think enough skin to handle what comes their way through twitter. They better, or they’re in the wrong business.

    Except Sarver. Just a hunch.

  437. Yes, that makes a lot of sense, look how many films get delayed while they fiddle with them’ ¦

    Hasn’t 2012 been pushed off once a while ago?

  438. LOL, maybe not Sarver. I don’t pay enough attention to his tweets to know.

    It also sounds like Blake and Adam have a lot of the same friends. Blake just RT what someone else said. Then Ali22son tweeted to Blake that she wished she could be there, but was in Nashville.

  439. I’m looking for confirmation that the Z-100 program director is quoted on LLWD saying that the response has been ‘phenomenal’ 

    Z100 has been playing the crap out of it so I wouldn’t be shocked if they are getting a good response.

  440. BeckyMD
    October 8, 2009 at 11:06 pm
    Yes, that makes a lot of sense, look how many films get delayed while they fiddle with them’ ¦

    Hasn’t 2012 been pushed off once a while ago?

    Haven’t heard that. It seemed they announced the Nov. release and then the ads. Where did you hear that ? Interesting…

  441. Isn’t seeing KISS in 2009 already kinda like being pissed on?

    I hate KISS but it looks like they’re going to have the #1 album in the US next week and they’re selling out stadiums, so people who are still pissed at Simmons for his comments should know that 2009 is a very good year for them.

  442. Oh, and I have tweeted 22,393 times

    That’s just scary!

    suebrody – not sure if you are still on – but I just looked this up – you are now at over 26,000 tweets! Holy bejezus! And you have a ton of followers :-) Wow! I feel like you’re a twitter celebrity.

    And I am so FREAKING EXCITED about Adam and full orchestra (I’m a classical musician so have a special place in my heart for orchestra – yea!)

    I’m guessing this will be a big ballady type number.

  443. And I am so FREAKING EXCITED about Adam and full orchestra (I’m a classical musician so have a special place in my heart for orchestra ‘“ yea!)

    I know what you mean. I use to be a French Horn player so orchestra has a special place in my heart.

    Checking out. I love this blog. Back to RL.

  444. I’m hoping the use of the orchestra (strings) on Adam’s song means it’s a Muse/Queen type of one… rock with a classical twist .. a great classical rock ballad would be fab.

  445. I am not sure that Cassidy fits in Mjs blog, but I would be interested in a recap.

    He doesn’t. That’s not something I would post on the front page.

  446. Hi, all. I’ve been at work all day and then doing some volunteer stuff tonight with just enough time in between for a few sneak peeks to see if anything’s going on with Adam’s new music. Therefore, while I’ve tried to get a feel for all the threads, I’m a tad confused on a couple issues. I see comments that allude to earlier comments, but I’m not finding the original sources to truly know what’s going on, if you know what I mean. So… here are my questions:

    Do we know for a fact, and, if so, how, that Aimee Mayo’s song has not been selected for the first single?

    What’s this about a full string orchestra?????

  447. It makes more sense to me that the viewing would not be the full movie

    And if the film is a stinker, there may be no previews at all, even for critics right before the film opens…

  448. I saw one negative reply to Kris basically saying he should be happy since his job was handed to him and that Adam should’ve won.

    I never tought that people could follow people they are angry at… this is weird isn’t it?

  449. What’s this about a full string orchestra?????

    Go back a couple of pages and start reading, you’ll get caught up that way.

  450. Go back a couple of pages and start reading, you’ll get caught up that way.

    Thanks, MJ. I’d already done that, but I was just confused about who was claiming one of Adam’s songs was set to a full string orchestra. In the meantime, I checked out Twitter and saw that it was Adam, himself. Awesome! That sounds amazing!

  451. I never tought that people could follow people they are angry at’ ¦ this is weird isn’t it?

    Looking at her twitter feed, she doesn’t seem like your typical Idol fan. She seems to like to start twitter fights, mostly related to politics. I went back a couple pages, and didn’t see any Adam related tweets at all. So maybe she’s just someone who likes to argue?

  452. Z100 has been playing the crap out of it so I wouldn’t be shocked if they are getting a good response.

    So Z100 is one of the biggest stations in the country (I think) and I would think they would have a pretty large influence on how other smaller stations might act – so why haven’t other stations followed suit by adding the song? I’m not getting that at all.

  453. Hasn’t 2012 been pushed off once a while ago?

    This is true but it was more to do with the summer competition then it did with the idea they had a crap movie.

  454. mj
    October 8, 2009 at 11:47 pm

    It makes more sense to me that the viewing would not be the full movie

    And if the film is a stinker, there may be no previews at all, even for critics right before the film opens’ ¦

    This is very true…If there is no preview for critics then even the producers of the movie think it stinks and we will know for sure it is not good, but I am sure that will not happen. Not for a $250 million dollar budget

  455. ontd_ai.com has thread with scans of the new EW article (entitled “Simon’s Spawn”)

    Here’s the link, but it’s members locked, so you may not be able to see it

    http://community.livejournal.com/ontd_ai/2561979.html

    Some highlights:

    A rep for 19: “The musical sensibilities of Kris, Adam, and Allison speak for themselves,” he says. “We believe all three have the opportunity to launch extremely successful careers.”

    Kris: “I don’t think about anyone else,” he tells EW. “Adam’s gonna sell as many albums as he’s gonna sell. Allison’s gonna sell as many as she sells. And Carrie’s gonna sell, like, 14 million. I have been stressed. But in the past couple weeks, things have been going really good. I’m really excited about what we’ve got.

    Talks about Kris’s slow start: Allen’s new single, “Live Like You’re Dying,” has logged just 363 radio spins nationally as of Oct. 4. (It’s early, however, and response to the song has been “phenomenal” at New York radio station Z100, according to program director Sharon Dastur.)

    (NOTE: I just went on the site that updates radio airplay — LLWD now has had more than 800 total spins; oh — and way to get the title of the song WRONG, there E.W.)

    Talks about how many current/ex-Idols have single and/or album releases coming out in the next month or so and how that presents marketing challenge so that no one gets lost in the crowd (this is where the quote from the 19 rep shows up)

    Talks about Adam’s amazing success with the pre-orders

    Has quotes from Allison and Blake…

  456. So Z100 is one of the biggest stations in the country (I think) and I would think they would have a pretty large influence on how other smaller stations might act ‘“ so why haven’t other stations followed suit by adding the song? I’m not getting that at all.

    Most of the stations spinning the kid’s Script cover single are stations where he has, or is scheduled to do, freebie promotions. He showed up for the rooftop concert at Z100 in New York, with sponsored ticket giveaway promos. He’s doing a charity concert sponsored by the HOT AC station in Cincinatti. In exchange, they are playing his song. He’s doing the freebie concert with the Fray in Chicago sponsored by the station that is, in exchange, spinning his single.

    That’s how payola promotion works. The record company puts on concerts for the radio station. The radio station pockets the money from ticket sales, and agrees to play the songs by those artists.

    The other four stations that are playing the song are the two stations in Little Rock and two stations owned by the same outfit. I haven’t seen a payola promotion concert scheduled at any of these yet, but it’s logical to assume it’s probably coming.

  457. ThatChrisGore claimed to have seen the movie and heard TFM.

    # 2012 is like every disater movie from the 70s rolled into one. I can’t wait for the ride! Roland makes the end of the world fun again!16 minutes ago from Echofon

    @ThatChrisGore But how was the music ???? Did you hear the song by Adam Lambert15 minutes ago from TweetDeck in reply to ThatChrisGore

    # @Irishgal719 Yes. It’s beautiful and hopeful. Very fitting.14 minutes ago from Echofon in reply to Irishgal719

  458. Kris has not played anything for Z100 in NY. He played in Boston, MA and according to sources they’ve not even added LLWD yet. Check the media base for the radio stations add and you’ll see that those who have added haven’t even spoken to or seen KRIS ALLEN before.
    Is it even suprising that radio stations are playing the song so mucH?
    It’s catchy and radio friendly. So far, 16 radio stations have added it even before the add date.
    How long have the single even been out?

  459. girlygirl, we are going to the Cassidy event too. You guys wanna meet up? We will be there at around 9 pm.

  460. Allison4Realzzz ahhhh Sublime… “Date Rape” … Too grREEaAAT!!!
    25 minutes ago from Echofon

    ETA: She clarified her tweet:

    Allison4Realzzz THE SONG ” date rape ” by SUBLIME!! Cool song … You dudes should know who sublime is c’moooonnnn xD
    2 minutes ago from Echofon

  461. # @Irishgal719 Yes. It’s beautiful and hopeful. Very fitting.14 minutes ago from Echofon in reply to Irishgal719

    OMG……he liked it…he really liked it….. Squeeeeeeeeee

    I believe in the power of the Fierce!!!!! May the Fierce be with you BeckyMd for posting this!!! :-)

  462. OMG squeee
    YES
    now
    give us lyrics
    or a longer description
    we’re kinda desperate here
    come on ;)
    I’ll bake you cookies :D
    ETA: I don’t post their but I wonder when the TWoP Adam thread will open back up. It’s been a while (I think).
    ETA2: So apparently Lady Gaga’s ‘the Fame Monster’ comes out on November 29th now and has eight new tracks. But it might have just been a typo I’ll go see.
    ETA3: It was a typo it IS coming out November 24th as far as I can tell.

  463. girlygirl, can you re-post the link for Kris llwd number of spins? (without the HWC heading part — want you to stay here) :)

  464. Hilaroious twitter exchange between DC and Andrew. It goes along with the tweet posted above. Heh

    thedavidcook: # @ACookOfficial – Get out.
    5 minutes ago from web

    ACookOfficial: @thedavidcook get out…the tissues? cause you’re crying? I’ll work on that.
    4 minutes ago from web

    thedavidcook: # @ACookOfficial – maybe the Jayhawks will take you in. Lord knows they love housing vagabonds, transients, and criminals.
    3 minutes ago from web

    thedavidcook: # Don’t worry, @ACookofficial. I’m kidding. I wouldn’t kick you out. I’ll just have Dublin leave another “jayhawk” in his cage for you.
    2 minutes ago from web

    ETA:
    Chikezie_Eze: # @thedavidcook Michigan NEVER blows! Detroit Rock City FTW!!!
    21 minutes ago from web in reply to thedavidcook

    thedavidcook: @Chikezie_Eze – Unless they’re playing Michigan State. Or having to practice a little extra… :)
    4 minutes ago from web

  465. That’s how payola promotion works.
    True, that’s how it works for everyone. From Rihanna to Fergie to Gaga, they all have to do radio gigs to get the big stations to play their music. Check out the artists who play at Jingle Balls. They’re usually the biggest radio artists around.

    Allison and probably Adam will be doing the same radio gigs to promo their music as well. It’s not just something Kris has to do but the others are somehow magically spared. Everyone trying to get on Top 40 has to go that route.

  466. girlygirl
    October 9, 2009 at 12:46 am
    Mtlfan

    Here’ ¦

    http://www.mmr247.com/mmrweb/Reports/Reg/EMD.asp?SOngID=1687846&NumDays=7

    GG — thanks for posting! Headed in the right direction.

    Just for Kris I am listening to Top 40 radio for the first time in years. It was bad in North Mississippi (Britney, Miley (Party ITUSA), Battlefield, Aready Gone, and a few other songs — every hour on the hour.) Now I’m back in Malibu and LA Top 40 radio is just as bad. OK, so let me make it official — Top 40 radio sucks! And I still haven’t heard Kris on the radio. (A couple more days and back to Sirus/XM radio for me!!)

  467. Artists who played at the Z100 2008 Jingle Ball (typical payola promo).

    Kanye West, David Archuleta, Chris Brown, Katy Perry Leona Lewis, Ne-Yo, Jesse McCartney, …

  468. Dietcoke

    Cool! I tweeted you about Sunday

    —————–

    So have there been any more reports from people hearing TFM — or just from the one guy at the press junket?

  469. Twitter from Chris Daughtry

    CHRIS_Daughtry Heads up Tweeps!!! I’m gonna be giving away VIP passes to select shows on the upcoming tour in the near future!!! Stay tuned….

  470. So have there been any more reports from people hearing TFM ‘” or just from the one guy at the press junket?

    I can’t find any more reports about the screening but there really seems to be more chatter online about what people thought of Adam’s song than what they thought of the movie! I really do feel like Alice in Wonderland!

  471. I worry about Kris’s single but I don’t really know how he can be held responsible for its failure (if it continues to under perform). His vocals are the only thing that redeems it at all for me. The song both lyrically and melodically is really bland. Kris didn’t write it and,apparently, had little input in the arrangement. It really makes me sad that they put this out as his first single. He has songs that he has written on his self-released album that are better than this Script song. It’s like they wanted to release something that could be popular on both top 40 and HAC and actually it doesn’t really fit in either format.

    And,this might get me banned, but please don’t ban girlygirl. The Kris fans on this blog are so few and far between already that it’s seriously in danger of becoming an “Adam Only” blog. I am mostly a lurker but I am sad to see so few of us Kris fans left. He needs all of the support he can get.

  472. I’m pretty sure only the writers of the song get those checks. But the song could be good even if the movie its from kind of sucks.

    It just depends. You can get royalties when you sing on a song because you can own a lot of the publishing in some cases, even if you didn’t write the song.

    At least, this is what I’ve been told from my son who has had songs on commercials and movies before.

    Who knows what his deal is, but at the very least, I’m sure he is getting some good money for singing that song.

    He gave Pink as

  473. It really makes me sad that they put this out as his first single. He has songs that he has written on his self-released album that are better than this Script song.

    I 100% agree with this statement. I got Kris’s Brand New Shoes Album. And there are sooooooo many songs on it better the LLWD.

    There are many people on this blog that Like Kris and Adam both. I personal don’t understand the either or concept. I really truly like both (like I like Springsteen/Led Zepplin, Muse/One Republic, Madonna/Cher Britney/Christina) and when in a thread about either only talk about the one the thread is about. Believe me MJ is very good at monitoring and moderating this Blog and Girlygirl is a welcomed poster. I like her views and opinions even if I don’t always agree with them. I appreciate everyone’s opinion even if some make my want to stick needles in my eyes because it would be less painful…. ;-)

  474. I like Kris’ single – ALOT – isn’t it a bit early to be writing it off? Especially if he hasn’t done all of the important “promotion” dates (as yet)?

  475. It really makes me sad that they put this out as his first single. He has songs that he has written on his self-released album that are better than this Script song.

    Since the first leak of this song it didn’t make me sad, it made me angry. Jive/19R blew it with this song selection — and Kris isn’t in a position to do anything about it. However, I am certain that Kris will be fine inspite of this song.

    There are many people on this blog that Like Kris and Adam both.

    Count me on that list.

  476. I think the Z100 quote in that EW article is good news for Kris. It’s unfortunate that EW didn’t mention the number of days they were including in that low spin number (must not have been too recent). And I think the add date is only coming up on Monday. But I really think no need to worry about LLWD. He’s gonna do fine. I’ve decided to be happy about this article, mis-naming of the single notwithstanding. Too bad no quote from Adam in the article though. I like my kradison!

    Oh, and reading the posts above, add me to the Kris-fan list!

  477. NewFan
    October 9, 2009 at 1:38 am

    I like Kris’ single ‘“ ALOT ‘“ isn’t it a bit early to be writing it off? Especially if he hasn’t done all of the important ‘promotion’  dates (as yet)?

    I’m not writing it off and believe me I want it to do well at least top 10 but I just think that songs he had on his pre idol album were better. I think LLWD though not bad was not the best representation and song choice for Kris. I would have preferred one he had a hand in writing. But I am thrilled to have something that is a solid first single

  478. NewFan: I like Kris’ single ‘“ ALOT ‘“ isn’t it a bit early to be writing it off? Especially if he hasn’t done all of the important ‘promotion’  dates (as yet)?

    I’m not writing it off but I believe that Kris deserved better than this song. JMVHO but I think that Jive/19R totally screwed this one up. And promotion will not fix this mistake.

    My hope is that when Kris releases his album it will have some really good music on it and Kris will get classified as an “album artist” because his album will sell really well.

  479. I know that you guys aren’t writing off Kris’ single and album. It’s just that there seems to be a tipping point on buzz. Where things start to roll in a positive or a negative direction. And then people see and hear what they’re expecting. When I do a google news search for Kris Allen more than half of what comes up are blog articles. Which, in turn, get picked up by small news sources and, sometimes, further on up through the food chain. This isn’t always the case by any means but it’s happening more and more frequently. So, anyway, I am definitely NOT suggesting that we edit our opinions or our posts, public opinion comes from “we the public”. It’s just worrying is all; for Kris and in general. Add Twitter into the equation and it doesn’t take much to get a negative vibe moving around. Word of mouth is happening so much more quickly. And telephone and misinformation. You know? Twitter is the devil.

    So which way is Kris’ word of mouth going. Doom, gloom and even faint praise. And his album isn’t even out yet. I know that most of the world isn’t caught into our internet loop but many people are. The world is getting kind of brutal that way. So that’s the worried side of my brain.

    And the optimistic side is going with Q3’s attitude … where Kris gets some good music out there and “gets classified as an “album” artist.” So, far he seems like a slow burn, build slowly kind of guy who gets there eventually and by stealth.

    Guess I’m a worry wart.

  480. By the way, I heard LLWD on my local HAC station (San Jose/San Fran area) at about 7pm tonight, so prime commute time which is good. I didn’t know what it was at first and it was just background noise and then I started listening because I kinda liked the tune, and then I recognized it as Kris’ song, and hey, it sounded pretty good. Very catchy and works well in that format. After it was over, the DJ said it was Kris Allen (without saying he was the American Idol), that his album was coming out soon, that he’d been working with big names like Daughtry and Joe King of the Fray, and that if the vibe of the song seemed familiar, it’s probably because it was written by the Script, which the DJ said was one of the station’s favorite new up and coming bands. Cool beans for Kris! I look forward to hearing it again.

  481. This will probably shock a few of ya’ll, but other than the morbid lyrics, I think Live Like We’re Dying is a pretty good song. I vastly prefer the Script vocals (the kid who won Idol’s speech impediment is like fingernails on a chalkboard for me), but I think it’s a great first single for the kid. Probably as good as he could hope for. It’s catchy in a soft rock, AC, boy next door way. I don’t know what he could have done that would have been better.

  482. I’ve never noticed that Kris had a speech impediment. But I have a lisp myself … so perhaps my diction effects my hearing. Actually, no, it can’t do. I agree with you hwc … it is a great first single.

  483. I think there could be a strong possibility that they won’t mess too much with his vocals as most of the people who have worked with him on the album have twitted about his vocals in a positive way.

    It’s not always a matter or how good a singer you are as I see it. Look at the track Allison released. She is a great singer but her voice has a lot of under and overtones that they seem to want to cut out with autotuning. In the chorus it is even more autotunes because they were going for that special sound effect.

    Adams studiorecordings from AI were usually not super autotuned, which I think is because his vocals doesn’t have a lot of over and undertones while singing. I am more concerned about the use of autotune on Kris’ album. I just don’t think autotune fits the kind of music he wants to do, a lot of acostic bands record voices with much more raw feeling to them.

  484. thedavidcook: # Hate to say it’ ¦ MIZZOU MI-BLEW tonight.
    5 minutes ago from mobile web Really don’t know if I know how to do this right. But, Mizzou basically got BEAT in the 4th quarter by my team….GO Huskers!!! Woooooooooooottttttt!!

    Sorry, David Cook, love you to death!!

    In another aspect, I have no fear. Adam has never disappointed me yet. He has never put out a song, on AI or on the tour, that I didn’t like or love. Or, even before. I’ve listened to all of his songs prior to AI.

    I have followed MJ’s since maybe the 4th week of AI Season 8. I knew in my heart that Adam was a star. But, somehow, I knew he wouldn’t win.

    I feel that he did *win* though. He got what he wanted. He got publicity, he got known…HE is the HBIC. We know that, right??

    I have a g/f that has not followed this online. She totally loves him too. And, I can talk to her about him and she tells me that he will be famous. She grounds me. She takes my *fantarding* and accepts it. She knows, as I do, that Adam will not disappoint us. I have total faith that he will produce the most awesome music. I am somewhat stressing because all I see and all I hear is about that. But, I sit here, calmly and wait.

    Our boy will give us what we want. How can he not give us good music? I know it’s hard to wait. But, the anticipation is the best thing we could ever have. I’m actually scared of the reaction that will happen when we do hear his single. It’s going to be the most amazing thing ever. I have total faith in that. At that point, then I will squeeeeee!! I love the 4th of July, as someone mentioned in a prior post!!

    I have nothing bad to say about Kris and Allison. I wish the best for both of them, along with the others. I know what I like. I know others have a different opinion. We cannot continue to compare artists. They are what they are. We like what we like. Sometimes, we love what we love. I love Adams music, his voice and all things about him.

    Need I say more? Probably not. It will happen soon. The AdamStorm is coming and I am so ready for it. I hope we are all prepared…lol!!!

  485. I just tried to buy Allison’s single on itunes and couldn’t. does anyone here knowwhat happened it?

  486. What you say, saga, is really interesting. To be honest, I’m not sure that I really understand autotuning and what it sounds like. I think I can hear it when somebody doesn’t really sound like them self but, for instance, I couldn’t hear anything ‘wrong’ on Adam’s AI studio recordings. I’m going to have to go looking for something that has a natural and an autotuned, version so that I get a clue about what this process does. I guess I thought that it just, somehow or other, corrected bad singing and made people sound better than they really are. It never occurred to me that it might be something that they would use on a singer who ‘didn’t need it’. I’ll see what I can find.

  487. I just tried to buy Allison’s single on itunes and couldn’t. does anyone here knowwhat happened it?

    It was removed apparently. People were complaining about it earlier yesterday.

    Was there and then poof. It was probably prematurely released. I know when I had a chance to listen/download it, the information from the single listed the release date as “October 20, 2009”.

    ETA: Apparently, I can still purchase it.

  488. Tony
    October 9, 2009 at 4:09 am
    I just tried to buy Allison’s single on itunes and couldn’t. does anyone here knowwhat happened it?

    It was removed apparently. People were complaining about it earlier yesterday.

    Was there and then poof. It was probably prematurely released. I know when I had a chance to listen/download it, the information from the single listed the release date as ‘October 20, 2009’ ³.

    Oh, great. That bodes ill for Allison if her own label can screw things up right out of the gate!
    That is too pathetic for words.

  489. http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2009/oct/09/guys-dolls-and-maybe-another-idol/

    Here’s something new. Adam played roles in this theater when he was younger.. and one of his former artistic directors stayed in touch with him:

    ‘He e-mailed me right before ‘American Idol’ began, to tell me that he was changing his e-mail address ‘” smart man!,’  Wilkenfeld said. ‘He’s a very decent, down-to-earth guy. He’s just the kind of person for whom we wish this sort of success.’ 

  490. ETA: Apparently, I can still purchase it.

    Really? I wonder why I can’t….. are you on itunes?

  491. Tony, I have a listing that’s similar to that… but when I click on the “buy” button a note pops up telling me I can’t have it. Maybe yours doesn’t work, either. Did you buy it?

  492. hwc
    October 9, 2009 at 4:58 am
    Auto-tune the news:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDOYN-6gdRE

    Watch this YouTube. You’ll hear Autotune in action and recognize it instantly in songs.

    That was INTERESTING!

    I was blown away by the news split screen– the “duet” between the anchor and the “reporter”— that really showed what autotune can do.

    Thanks for this!

  493. I haven’t had a chance to listen to hwc’s newscast just yet (thanks hwc for answering the call):

    but this is an audio article from time magazine (it’s on the left) tells you all about it.

    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1877372,00.html

    and this site:

    This is one example of pitch correction … but the site also gives some other examples of changes to “vocal dynamic range” and to less than stellar instrumentation (drums).

    http://www.antarestech.com/downloads/audio/BeautifullyBad.mp3
    http://www.antarestech.com/downloads/audio/BeautifullyGood.mp3

    gives some before and after versions of male and female vocals that have been fixed.

    real bad:
    http://www.antarestech.com/downloads/audio/BeautifullyBad.mp3

    perfect:
    http://www.antarestech.com/downloads/audio/BeautifullyGood.mp3

    I wish I could use this for our family “happy birthday” parties.

    Now I’m off to listen to the news.

    ETA: That was fun! I kinda like the creative use of auto-tuning (T-Pain, Cher)(at least in small doses) but with most of the stuff I listened to I couldn’t hear the difference. Check out Avril Levigne’s Complicated and listen to the words “way”, “when” “driving” “you’re. Can you hear it?

  494. but this is an audio article from time magazine (it’s on the left) tells you all about it.

    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1877372,00.html

    Loved this audio article. Tyrangiel is a favorite of mine– and I, too, enjoyed the dissertation on the creative aspect of Autotune.

    The point he made about changing the way we hear music was depressing, if it turns out to be true. I hope we continue to have artists like Nora Jones who don’t need and don’t want the extra “help” it can offer.

    Adam’s voice autotuned might remove one of the things I love about him– the emotional quality that sets him apart from so many others. Even the little imperfections are part and parcel of what makes a singer unique.

  495. boredinschool….don’t know if anyone answered your question yet.

    ETA: I don’t post their but I wonder when the TWoP Adam thread will open back up. It’s been a while (I think).

    That thread is permanently closed. The mod opened a new one — Adam, Take 2.

  496. Auto-tune the news:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDOYN-6gdRE

    Watch this YouTube. You’ll hear Autotune in action and recognize it instantly in songs.

    Thank you hwc. I get it now. I have heard this in so many songs. Now everytime I hear it, I will have this video in my head. It doesn’t make everything sound better, it makes everything sound the same.

  497. This will probably shock a few of ya’ll, but other than the morbid lyrics, I think Live Like We’re Dying is a pretty good song. I vastly prefer the Script vocals (the kid who won Idol’s speech impediment is like fingernails on a chalkboard for me), but I think it’s a great first single for the kid.

    Hmm. I didn’t realize the prize for winning Idol was a speech impediment. ;)

    I don’t really think the lyrics are that morbid. Just…. realistic? Maybe that makes me moribid.

  498. I vastly prefer the Script vocals (the kid who won Idol’s speech impediment is like fingernails on a chalkboard for me), but I think it’s a great first single for the kid.

    Hmm. I didn’t realize the prize for winning Idol was a speech impediment.

    You win the funny prize… :D

  499. I am a Adam fan, but that doesn’t mean that I don’t like Kris. Music is not an either/or thing. That is why I don’t participate in the fan warring. It’s great if the musician is a nice person, but I don’t buy music just because the person is nice. So if the people on this thread don’t like a particular song, that doesn’t mean that they are dissing the artist. As perfect as Adam may be, I am sure he will drop a turd every now and then. Of course, I’ll just smile and say “Oh look what the pretty baby did. That is so precious. Baby did a dodo”

  500. I think LLWD is a good song. I also prefer the Script’s version (i just really really really hate the spoken part on Kris’ version — i know others like it and think it is Dylanesque, but to me it sounds like nails on a chalk board, awkward, and forced, although i think he sings the rest of the song well). For some reason it seems like a “summer anthem” type song…i bet it would have done better had it been released in the early summer.

  501. For some reason it seems like a ‘summer anthem’  type song’ ¦i bet it would have done better had it been released in the early summer.

    Yes! I thought so too when I heard it the first time. But no one else mentioned it so I thought it was just me…

  502. did anyone see this from one of the reporters?

    ThatChrisGore: @Irishgal719 Yes. It’s beautiful and hopeful. Very fitting.

  503. Yes! I thought so too when I heard it the first time. But no one else mentioned it so I thought it was just me’ ¦

    I said that when it was released, totally agree. That’s not a problem to me because I live on the south part of the globe and the summer is coming (although the winter is really mild), but I understand why it would be harder to feel the song.

  504. That thread is permanently closed. The mod opened a new one ‘” Adam, Take 2.

    Okay thanks :) I didn’t know that haha

    Ooh thats awesome that his name is in the trailer :D

  505. So the guy who was at a screening last night for TFM … er, 2012, and who gave it an 8.5 out of 10, did NOT hear TFM.

    He posted this about an hour ago:

    Sorry to not be able to answer you about the song playing afterwards. The projector was shut-down as soon as credits rolled. For those of you who knows where I seen this, and the New York critic knows he HATES HATES watching the credits. lol.

    grrrr.

  506. marked as being one of the songs with the greatest increases in sales and airplay

    Good to hear he is getting more airplay- that should help him alot but the reason for the increase in sales ( I think someone posted yesterday it was 45%) was because they released it on Friday the week before and now he has a full week of sales. Alli should have the same thing happen to her if they get that whole Itunes snafu straightened out.

    Did anyone figure out what the problem was? Did it really get released too early? How can that even happen?

  507. Sorry to not be able to answer you about the song playing afterwards. The projector was shut-down as soon as credits rolled.

    LOL! Too funny – and by funny, I mean that it’s becoming comical how determined every force in the universe seems to be right now to prevent ANY kind of music leak from Adam. Now projectors are shutting down.

    Oh, well.

  508. BTW this is the new trailer!!! He is being pimped in the TRAILER!!!

    So is this a trailer on tv, or in movie theaters? I have yet to see another 2012 trailer on tv – though I tend to skip many commercials.

  509. Sorry to not be able to answer you about the song playing afterwards. The projector was shut-down as soon as credits rolled.

    LOL – they are treating this song like “I’m Telling You’ from Dreamgirls. I can understand the hush hush around the Dreamgirls song/clip, but for TfM it doesn’t make any sense.

  510. ontd_ai.com has thread with scans of the new EW article (entitled ‘Simon’s Spawn’ )

    Yeah, more AI references in EW! Can’t wait to get my copy tonight!

    As for LLWD – I think, with the add date being this Monday, that next week (and the weeks right after) will be far more important indicators of its long term success and longevity. If those numbers pick up substantially, then that will be all that matters in the long run. And if radio play pick up a lot, then the itunes sales will follow by default.

    My take on the song is that it has an excellent, catchy chorus, though I’m not as fond of the verses (I feel they are a little plodding, bland, and unmelodic). Unfortunately, I feel Allisons’s song suffers from the same problem (super catchy fun chorus, but bland verses). This is common for a lot of pop songs out there now, though, so imo it isn’t a big deal.

  511. Oh, but that mention from someone who actually heard TFM in 2012 and thought it was good! Yea! A little leakage, but we’ll take it :-)

  512. Tweets from Jim C. He must have Kris’s on his mind 24/7…he is even borrowing from Kris’s tweets. (the one about ice shift)

    # jim cantiellojambajim STARBUCKS SHIFT! Why? Seriously God…..why?about 2 hours ago from web

    # jambajim Starbucks shift: when you are a complete moron and knock over a triple tall skim latte all over your messy desk.about 2 hours ago from web

  513. LLWD has cracked the Billboard Top 100 at #89 and is marked as being one of the songs with the greatest increases in sales and airplay

    Girlygirl – you have just made my day! This is great news – I’m so happy for Kris!

  514. Grrrr! you have to be a member to see them. Don’t have time to sign up right now. I wanted to see him playing the viola.

    Well dhunkenyou have the picture now, so yay VAlilac, which is good because membership is closed at ontd_ai for the forseeable, so don’t bother trying to sign up.

    Tony
    October 9, 2009 at 4:37 am
    Yeah. Here’s a screen grab of my iTunes: http://i34.tinypic.com/2vklop4.jpg

    I believe the song is there, but when you attempt to actually purchase it, it says it’s no longer available.

  515. Well dhunkenyou have the picture now, so yay VAlilac, which is good because membership is closed at ontd_ai for the forseeable, so don’t bother trying to sign up.

    Thanks for the info Truthiness! Saved me time and Frustration! (which I used up more then enough with the whole waiting for any word or Adam’s 1st single, ARGH!!!!)

    I believe the song is there, but when you attempt to actually purchase it, it says it’s no longer available.

    This is correct…At least that is what happened to me

  516. People were pleading with the ThatChrisGore guy to provide a leak of TFM and he responded:

    # @adamisalamb Can’t. Phone were confiscated at door. Also, I’m an ethical guy. I cannot do that.about 8 hours ago from Echofon in reply to adamisalamb

    Twarted again!

  517. LaurelG

    October 9, 2009 at 9:55 am

    People were pleading with the ThatChrisGore guy to provide a leak of TFM and he responded:

    # @adamisalamb Can’t. Phone were confiscated at door. Also, I’m an ethical guy. I cannot do that.about 8 hours ago from Echofon in reply to adamisalamb

    Twarted again!

    LOL….On the positive side he did tweet that the song is beautiful and hopeful. Very fitting.

  518. Just got back from driving my kids to school… sunny day, breezy, listening to iPod and Live Like We’re Dying Came on and yeah, I’ve decided I really like it. I hope it continues to pick up spins for Kris. I like the underdog :)

  519. capitol studios tweets adam :

    capitolstudios: @adamlambert Our pleasure having you Adam. Sounds amazing.

  520. LOL’ ¦.On the positive side he did tweet that the song is beautiful and hopeful. Very fitting.

    YES!

    I’m still looking for additional reviews from the screenings held last night. As you pointed out, dhunken, the two negative reviews posted on imdb were from posters (trolls?) who had signed up for membership on that site the day before. The only other review was a positive one from the guy in NY who didn’t hear TFM (because they shut off the projector before the credits rolled) and he’s been an active imdb poster since 2005. He gave the movie an 8.5 out of 10.

    I think the jury’s still out on how good or bad this movie is. Regardless, even if the movie’s a bomb, it won’t affect Adam’s song.

  521. Just got back from driving my kids to school’ ¦ sunny day, breezy, listening to iPod and Live Like We’re Dying Came on and yeah, I’ve decided I really like it. I hope it continues to pick up spins for Kris. I like the underdog

    Well, I like the other guy, but I gotta tell you- LLWD is one of my favorite songs right now. Second most played on my ipod.

    And how cool is it that Capitol records tweeted ADAM?

    I’d say it’s pretty good to be an AI fan about now. I am proud at how much recognition they are all getting.

    As for IMDB- I have been a member for awhile and there are a lot of movie snobs on there that just don’t like ANYTHING. I don’t know if the ones you saw were trolls. They probably signed up because they got to go to the screening.

    I like to wait for Rotten Tomatoes reviews to roll in. Anything above a 60% is usually good in my book. It’s the ones that are rated like 20% rotten that are usually the real stinkers ( the ones that will bomb at the box office). I looked yesterday and there were no reviews yet.

  522. I think the jury’s still out on how good or bad this movie is. Regardless, even if the movie’s a bomb, it won’t affect Adam’s song.

    ITA – the song and movie can help each other, but they can just as easily be their own separate entities. The song could do well without a successful (or critically acclaimed) movie. How many examples are there of really successful soundtrack songs coming from just so-so movies?(Armageddon immediately comes to mind)

  523. As for IMDB- I have been a member for awhile and there are a lot of movie snobs on there that just don’t like ANYTHING.

    I agree with this, movies I have loved they have totally trashed.

  524. ravengirl
    October 9, 2009 at 9:57 am
    Here’s an interesting meter from Amazon.com comparing Idol sales for Adam, Kris and Allison. Great Adam squee material, not so much for the others:

    http://www.amazon.com/American-Idol-Contestants-2009/meters/A1F673D557FYUO/ref=pd_zg_lm_lp_pl

    While that IS (and looks) very impressive for Adam, these are only Amazon’s preorder sales and not overall sales from all available vendors.

    I’ve preordered Kris’ album at iTunes after his single was released and hearing of his collaborations. It is rare for me to buy ANYTHING sight/sound unseen. I won’t even buy from the clips of songs on iTunes without being able to sample a full song.

    I never buy from Amazon. Well, I did get a gift card to there once and was extremely disappointed in their service and customer support.

    I’m hoping they all do well and get the recognition and support they deserve.

  525. girlygirl, thanks for the awesome news for LLWD!!!

    I certainly don’t hear a speech impediment when listening to Kris. I agree it’s a great single and have to agree with those reviews that say it’s one of the best AI first singles ever. :) I like Kris’s version better than the Script’s. The combination of the verses with catchy chorus make it even better for me, tbh and I lurve the spoken part. Different strokes…

    Even if 2012 is a bad movie TFM will probably do well. From the description of the song it may very well be one my favs from Adam, we’ll see. I love John Cusak (sp?) and find it interesting that the review for him was fairly positive.

    Wouldn’t it be funny (interesting) if the Music Vid turns out to be better than the movie? :)

  526. NewFan, regarding the Autotune discussion, I think a lot of people have started using the word “autotune” as a blanket term to refer to all vocal effects, whether or not they’re produced by the Autotune product. In particular, saga referred to Allison being heavily autotuned in the chorus of her new single. In fact, the main effect that you hear in the chorus is not Autotuning, but doubling — they took her single vocal and split it into two tracks, one mainly in the left speaker and one mainly in the right. I know that the doubling effect can be created by applying a very short echo to the original vocal (I did it myself in my ancient amateur recording days) — there are probably other, more high-tech procedures that are used for that as well. But anyway, doubling has been done for decades, without Autotune.

    TwigLA: I won’t even buy from the clips of songs on iTunes without being able to sample a full song.

    FYI, in case you don’t know about this — I use Lala.com to audition songs and albums before I buy — once you get a free account there, you can listen to the full track of any song once, for free. Once you’ve listened to it (actually I think it’s once you’ve played more than the first 30 seconds), you can only hear the standard 30-second clip unless you buy it. (They also let you buy a “web song” for 10 cents — the permanent right to stream the song from their site.)

    I never buy from Amazon. Well, I did get a gift card to there once and was extremely disappointed in their service and customer support.

    That’s funny — I buy pretty much all my CDs from them — have for years — and I don’t think I’ve ever had any problem.

  527. Wouldn’t it be funny (interesting) if the Music Vid turns out to be better than the movie?

    LOL! This is quite possible! Especially since music vids can just show snippets of the most exciting and intense moments from the movie, all condensed into a few minutes! Plus – it’s got Adam! Oh – wish we’d get to see this mv!

  528. Wouldn’t it be funny (interesting) if the Music Vid turns out to be better than the movie?

    LOL! This is quite possible! Especially since music vids can just show snippets of the most exciting and intense moments from the movie, all condensed into a few minutes! Plus ‘“ it’s got Adam! Oh ‘“ wish we’d get to see this mv!

    Doesn’t the fact that the music Video has Adam in it already make’s it better then the movie. :mrgreen:

  529. Doesn’t the fact that the music Video has Adam in it already make’s it better then the movie.

    Ahh – good point. No need to see it first, it’s guaranteed to be amazing because it will be graced by Adam’s exquisite presence :-)

  530. Thanks JohnM!!!

    I love learning new stuff (dancing smilies with big smiles on their faces).

  531. I’m not writing it off but I believe that Kris deserved better than this song. JMVHO but I think that Jive/19R totally screwed this one up. And promotion will not fix this mistake.

    I think it’s way too early to write off the single. Once it gets airplay and Kris gets out to promote it,,,,it could pick up a lot of steam.

    I actually like the song. (I happen to like the Script, which may be why I like the song.) I think it’s a catchy song,,,,and I can see Kris bouncing around on stage performing it, and the audience getting into his performance of it. I haven’t followed AI in the past, but from what I’ve been hearing here, they could have done a lot worse with the selection of the single. A catchy song is always good for radio play,,,,isn’t it?

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