Idol Headlines for 10/03/09

Adam Lambert vs. Susan Boyle: Which Nov. 24 record release has you more excited?

lambert-vs-boyle_lDing, ding, ding, ding! Ladies and gentlemen, let’s get ready to rummmmblllle’ ¦or at least get ready to mark Nov. 24 on our calendars with big, red ‘Xs.’ How come? Because that’s when two of this season’s most anticipated debut albums will be dropped like scalding plates coming out of the microwave.

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Entertainment Weekly

SICK ABDUL PULLS OUT OF COWELL BASH

PAULA ABDUL’s plans to surprise her pal SIMON COWELL at his 50th birthday bash have been ruined by a bout of influenza.
The singer was invited to help her former American Idol judge celebrate the landmark birthday at a lavish $1.5 million ( £1 million) party in Hertfordshire, England on Saturday (03Oct09) but after coming down with flu, she’s currently recuperating in bed on doctor’s orders. And the star is devastated she won’t be able to see her friend on his big day. She writes, “Mama is sick. Up all night with the flu. I feel terrible. I knew I should’ve gotten the flu shot. Gotta get better… I even had a funny surprise in store for him. “Not making it to the party after all. Dr. said no way. I’m bummed (but) I’ll survive.”

More Idol Headlines After the Jump…

My picks for most successful ‘Idol’ contestants of all time

I’d say at least one third have now been able to leverage their fame into some semblance of a music career. In other words, many don’t have to go back to being a postal service worker or a Sonic waitress.

I decided just for fun to rank my top 25 most successful ‘Idol’  contestants among those finalists (I’ll leave the likes of Frenchie Davis and William Hung out. We could do a separate, much shorter list of most successful ‘Idol’  contestants who didn’t make the finals). This isn’t a judgment based on me liking them or not. It’s not just record sales. It’s how I perceive success to be. Feel free to rank your own top 5 or 10 on your own criteria.

AJC.com

‘Cowboys’ just sound better in Carrie’s world

I don’t like country music. It’s no secret. More often than not I find it to be grating, twangy and geared toward the “my woman belongs in the kitchen deep-frying me a steak” audience. But there is something about Carrie Underwood’s music that I simply can not resist. There’s no denying she has a good voice — but that is the one thing I’ll give most country artists, they can all sing their pants off. So it has to be something else that captures my attention.

Maybe it’s because Carrie’s journey from waitress to superstar consumed my life for 6 months. I witnessed her first true star moment — blowing the doors off with “Alone” (although that hair is still horrifying) — and saw her develop into the artist that has become one of country music’s rhinestone-iest stars.

NY Post

Instruments from American Idol fans due in October, but it’s not too late to get involved

Band instruments bought with money donated mostly by fans of American Idol runner-up Adam Lambert are expected to arrive in Kent by October 12, but according to Carol Brewster, the teacher who wrote the essay to get the instruments, local residents can still get in on the action.

Earlier this year, Brewster wrote a proposal for the Web site DonorsChoose.org, an online charity that connects people with students in need, requesting more than $14, 000 to buy band instruments for the schools in which she works.

Kent Reporter.com

Jordin Sparks in Concert at Atlantis – Saturday, October 10th

Paradise Island, Bahamas – Atlantis welcomes Grammy nominee, American Idol & American Music Award winner Jordin Sparks on Saturday, October 10th as part of their Atlantis LIVE series.

Jordin hits the scene with her second album “Battlefield”, following the success of her self titled debut album and the 2008 hit “No Air” that peaked at number 3 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart.

This R & B and pop artist is sure to entertain.

The Bahamas Weekly

ExxonMobil & American Idol Elliott Yamin Support Malaria Prevention at Angola Orphanage and School

IRVING, Texas–(BUSINESS WIRE)– Exxon Mobil Corporation (NYSE: XOM) and American Idol finalist Elliott Yamin have teamed up to support new malaria prevention projects at the Saint Isabel Orphanage and School in Luanda, Angola.

Yamin, a champion in the fight against malaria, delivered a special performance Friday at the 1st Annual Washington Ideas Forum, two days of discussion by major newsmakers and top journalists on the most pressing issues of the day. In support of his performance, ExxonMobil made a grant of $100, 000 to the orphanage and school as part of the company’s continued commitment in the fight against malaria.

Street Insider

How Carrie Underwood Got Into Character for “Cowboy Casanova”

For the first time ever, Carrie Underwood took two days to film one of her music videos. And when you see all the stylish dancers and flashy costumes in “Cowboy Casanova, ” you’ll know why.

The video premiere is part of CMT’s Big New Music Weekend taking place Friday-Sunday (Oct. 2-4), featuring nine world premieres from several of country’s biggest stars.

For “Country Casanova, ” Underwood enjoyed spending some extra time in shooting the video.

CMT

Stars Align For Mirage 20th Anniversary

LAS VEGAS — Temperatures are not quite ideal for an outdoor concert, but there will be plenty of heat coming from the Mirage Friday night.

The resort is celebrating its 20th anniversary with a concert at the BARE pool hosted by ’24’  star Kiefer Sutherland and boasting a lineup of ‘Slash and friends.’ 

The Guns ‘n Roses guitarist will be joined by Hole singer Courtney Love, ‘American Idol’  star Chris Daughtry, Pussycat Dolls singer Nicole Scherzinger and Aerosmith guitarist Joe Perry.

Fox5Vegas

Band Organizes Concert to Assist Victims of Samoa Quake

The contemporary Christian group The Katinas is organizing a benefit concert to assist residents of the islands of Samoa and their native American Samoa, which were rocked by a massive 8.2 magnitude earthquake Tuesday that spawned a devastating tsunami.

At least 169 were dead Thursday, and hundreds more were missing, the Associated Press reported.

The Hope For Samoa Benefit Concert will be held Oct. 7 at Fellowship Bible Church in Brentwood, Tenn., and will feature The Katinas as well as Natalie Grant and American Idol finalist Melinda Doolittle.

Charisma Mag

Ladies Night Out

The Madison the City Chamber of Commerce’s 10th annual Ladies Night Out has American Idol star Jasmine Murray in the spotlight.

Held the evening of Oct. 20 at the Hilton Jackson Hotel, the event showcases the Season 8 Idol contestant from Columbus, along with a cocktail hour, silent and Chinese auctions, table decorating contest and a special segment honoring the Dynamic Mothers of Mississippi.

MCHerald

How Mr Average became the richest man on television

Simon Cowell’s mother had just put the finishing touches to her make-up before gliding down the swirling staircase. It was Christmas Day in 1963 and she was feeling radiant in her cropped suit and movie star white mink hat.

“What do you think, darling? Does Mummy look pretty?” she asked her four-year-old son as he played in the hallway with his new train set.

He looked up and his eyes quickly focused in on the furry hat. “Mum, you look like a poodle.”

Independent.ie

Slow sales, spat cancel Kanye-Gaga

Prevailing theories behind the cancellation of the 34-city Kanye West-Lady Gaga arena tour are less-than-stellar ticket sales, rancor between the stars or some toxic combination thereof.

Live Nation announced the tour September 24; a week later, the promoter issued a terse statement describing the”Fame Kills” tour as “cancelled” and “refunds are available at the point of purchase.” Pressed for details, a Live Nation spokesperson said, “We have no additional information at this time.”

The website for West’s label, Island Def Jam, listed the tour active as of Oct 2. The same day, a post on Rollingstone.com suggested that the West and Gaga camps “were at each other’s throats, ” while Lady Gaga arrived at the Billboard Women in Music event and told Billboard.com that the cancellation “was a mutual decision.”

Variety.com

Kristin Chenoweth gleeful about Glee…and would love to return

Did you see Kristin Chenoweth on Glee the other night? Fully recovered from her migraine the night that she won the Emmy for Pushing Daisies, the prolific Kristin Chenoweth talked about the appearance on Glee — including an interview with Nick the other day — and she was enthusiastic about it.

She said it was a blast playing a character as wild as April Rhodes. She liked it so much, Kristin would like to make Glee a permanent thing. Or at least be asked back for future guest appearances.

TV Squad.com

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235 Comments

  1. GOOOOD MORNING!!!!!! I’m gonna be in Pittsburgh today and tommorow so can’t check the blog until Monday.byeeeeeeD:

    ADAM PLZZZZZZZZZZZ NO EPICNESS WHILE IMMMM GONE’ ¦’ ¦.

    for some reason can’t delete this on yesterdts hedlines?

    whatevs bye

  2. I would love Kristin Chenoweth to go back on Glee for some guest spots. I am not a huge fan of the show (I like it okay sometimes, but it’s not must see TV for me) but the Kristin stuff was high-larious. I loved her character and her chem with, well everyone, was great. So yeah, I hope it happens in the futue.

  3. Here’s some tweets ref Danny. Looks like his label has him working with some of the best in the industry.

    smsutherland: @dannygokey ‘“ Just had late night Denny’s with our good friend Gordon Mote. Said he was working with you. Cool!!

    smsutherland: @dannygokey ‘“ Gordo also said you were one of the nicest guys he’s ever worked with. Great compliment!

    So I checked out this Gordon Mote and here’s what I found:

    He is completely visually impaired from birth. Over the years, Mote has become one of the most accomplished and sought-after recording studio session players in Nashville, TN. He has played on recording sessions for the likes of Martina McBride, Alan Jackson, Trace Adkins, Randy Travis, Kenny Chesney, Rascal Flatts, Mark Lowry, the Gaither Vocal Band, Ernie Haase & Signature Sound and The Martins. Recently recognized by both Music Row Magazine and the Academy of Country Music as the Piano/Keyboard Player of the Year for 2009, this summer, Gordon has maintained a busy schedule, recording with major country artists such as Blake Shelton, Brad Paisley, Carrie Underwood, and Josh Turner, as well as recording the new Gaither Vocal Band album and video.

  4. RUH ROH:

    6. Adam Lambert. Okay, he has not released an album yet, much less finish it. He didn’t even win. But he’s a tornado force to be reckoned with, a glam rocker ‘Idol’  has never seen before and probably never will again. He made the cover of ‘Rolling Stone’  when he came out. He’s the first ‘Idol’  non winner to make the cover before the actual winner. The man hit No. 1 on the Amazon charts this week two months before its release

    UM NO.JUST NO

  5. He’s the first ‘Idol’  non winner to make the cover before the actual winner.

    I must have hallucinated Clay being on the cover.

  6. I don’t think Adam has much to worry about in Susan Boyle. Their audiences barely overlap. What could cut into his retail sales is Lady GaGa re-releasing The Fame on that day. They are going to repackage it for release in conjunction with her Kanye-less arena tour. Lady Gaga and Adam should have a substantial overlap in audience. The reigning Queen of Glam Pop has the power to pull a number of those retail sales away from the Crown Prince of Glam Pop.

  7. Kris’s single got an A- review from Entertainment Weekly! And it wasn’t a review written by Michael Slezak, either. It’s in the new issue, but I can’t find it online yet, in a run-down of “hot” new singles…..Yay, Kris!

  8. 6. Adam Lambert. Okay, he has not released an album yet, much less finish it. He didn’t even win. But he’s a tornado force to be reckoned with, a glam rocker ‘Idol’  has never seen before and probably never will again. He made the cover of ‘Rolling Stone’  when he came out. He’s the first ‘Idol’  non winner to make the cover before the actual winner. The man hit No. 1 on the Amazon charts this week two months before its release

    UM NO.JUST NO

    That’s just not right. It’s like saying that some #2 NFL draft pick who hasn’t played a game in the NFL deserves to be ranked ahead of proven all-stars in the NFL. The uproar against that would be deafening. This blogger just lost any credibility for me.

  9. Adam is leading Susan 54% to 43% in the EW poll, for whatever that’s worth. He still stands at #1 on the Amazon bestsellers list, with Susan at #6 and heading down. Adam has dropped to #10 on the B&N list of bestsellers, but he does now appear on their main music page in the “Coming Soon” section, with this caption:
    On American Idol, Lambert proved that he could rock just as loud as Axl Rose and deliver vocals as tender as Jeff Buckley’s. His as-yet-untitled debut comes freighted with big expectations

    Indeed it does…

    ETA: The soundtrack for 2012 is now #1 on Amazon’s Movers and Shakers list, with a green arrow indicating it’s still rising (now at #121). Now why would this be… oh yeah, Adam again.

  10. So silence from Adam that means he is busy.
    And Kris and Allison have released their singles.
    Danny is recording.
    So any news on everyone else from their batch ? I guess by Thanksgiving except for our faves, all the rest of the cast of Season 8 ,will start to fade away.

    My picks for most successful ‘Idol’ contestants of all time

    The guy has 25 listed and I can only name one – Adam. I guess I will fail if ever there is an American Idol quiz.

    Back to keeping things smooth on my side , before another Adam tempest occurs.

  11. Dave Kokoki, from the Idol band had a livechat in the middle of the night and answered questions. He has heard Adam’s and Allison’s demos and really liked them. Dave liked Adam and Allison’s sets the best on tour. He thinks that Adam is no pushover and has a clear mindset on what he wants on his album. He also said Adam was extremely busy during the tour and they rarely saw him.
    Here is the post if you want to read it in it’s entirety http://community.livejournal.com/ontd_ai/2483659.html

  12. That ranking was atrocious. Jennifer Hudson over Underwood AND Clarkson? Sorry, but Kelly’s still no.1 for me, then Carrie, then J-Hud. Her rankings are even self-contradictory…Constantine’s Tony nom should put him over Justin Guarini by the standards she put Hudson at the top with. Kris and Adam shouldn’t be on there yet. Taylor above Elliot? Ruben above Archie? Continual overrating of Chris Sligh. Come on, people, Melinda had a better music career pre-Idol singing backup than Sligh does now. Plus the blogger couldn’t count and gave us 26…

  13. I wonder if Kris is going to Simon’s birthday bash, since he is in London now.

  14. From Kelly concert last night, a couple covers she performed…

    She only gets better with the years, I love everything she does.

  15. Rodney Ho is the most bias Idol blogger/writer I’ve ever read. He consistently places R&B and southeastern Idols above the rest. He’s also thinks that Idol went significantly downhill after season 3. The mentions of Brooke and Jason at the end were probably added after his editor read it and said something.

    If you don’t believe me that Rodney lives in his own Idol fantasy world, just do a search of the article for Allison Ireheta. A west coast pop/rocker with a major label deal doesn’t even make his radar.

  16. I can still vividly remember Kristin Chenoweth’s performance on Glee. She was amazing! Hope she returns as April Rhodes and give Sue Sylvester a piece of her drunken mind.

  17. Animated
    October 3, 2009 at 11:21 am
    “So silence from Adam that means he is busy.”

    I’m sure you are right. As the old saying goes, “Absence makes the heart grow fonder,” if that’s even possible in this case! That’s what I’m going to hang onto instead of “Out of sight, out of mind!” Yeah, like that’s going to happen anytime soon! Sure wish he would send a quick little tweet though, even if it only said, “working hard this weekend.” ANYTHING would be better than silence. If there is a video being made today, maybe someone will tweet something about that.

    You know….there’s another saying we can hang onto while we’re in the padded cell(s): “Good things come to those who wait”….I like that thought!

  18. Dave Kokoki, from the Idol band had a livechat in the middle of the night and answered questions. He has heard Adam’s and Allison’s demos and really liked them. Dave liked Adam and Allison’s sets the best on tour. He thinks that Adam is no pushover and has a clear mindset on what he wants on his album. He also said Adam was extremely busy during the tour and they rarely saw him.
    Here is the post if you want to read it in it’s entirety http://community.livejournal.com/ontd_ai/2483659.html

    Any way we can get to it w/o having to log in?

  19. Loved the charity article. I wonder if that will be the project where Adam is on hand for the delivery of the items. That was part of the challenge and this is the second article that newspaper has done on the fan challenge. It was funded in the first weeks of the challenge, so you’d think they’d already have the instruments. I’m glad Adam chose such an established and well-run charity. Makes my heart feel good.

  20. Variety article about GaGa-Kanye interesting. Ticket sales were “sluggish”. They were not filling the venues.

    Lady Gaga, on the other hand, doesn’t have much of a headlining track record. Earlier this year, she supported the Pussycat Dolls; in May, she headlined mostly large clubs.

    “Her career has largely blown up this year,” Bongiovanni said. “She was playing the House of Blues in Chicago in March, sold out two shows there; still, that’s only 2,600 tickets. I would think that Lady Gaga would have been responsible for an awful lot of the tickets sold because her career has gotten huge this year.”

    If you’re a GaGa fan, why would it matter who else was on the ticket? So, in a recession, she can’t fill a stadium by herself. Few can these days. Quick record sales apparently do not translate to expensive concert tickets bought when money is tight.

    The American Idol tour was more successful than the average tour this summer, in a recession, IMHO, because of Adam. And again, IMHO, Adam could return to all 52 Idol cities and fill a smaller venue several nights in a row. There would be thousands in each town wishing for more of what they saw.

    Not that every town has a smaller venue. But having toured, and having wowed audiences, Adam could be ahead in selling tickets for his tour. He was so good people would be willing to travel couple hours to see him again.

    Was surprised to read she was opening for the PussyCat Dolls this year.

  21. I wonder if Kris is going to Simon’s birthday bash, since he is in London now.

    I was wondering that myself. I would expect the guest list was compiled before this weekend though. And since Kris was not one of Simon’s favorites, I doubt he would be a last minute add to the list. I think I remember reading that only the winners from the UK show have “auto” invites. So then I figured he was not going.

  22. tiger92-I really want to read that Dave Kokoki livechat but can’t get on without logging in. Is there any other way to post it?

  23. RE: Come on, people, Melinda had a better music career pre-Idol singing backup than Sligh does now.

    Which begs the question — How do you define BETTER MUSIC CAREER ?

  24. tiger92-I really want to read that Dave Kokoki livechat but can’t get on without logging in. Is there any other way to post it?

    I’m not a member either. I read a detailed summary on another board. (the whole chat is VERY interesting) I guess a member at ontd-ai will have to go grab it or summarize in greater detail for us.

  25. He thinks that Adam is no pushover and has a clear mindset on what he wants on his album. He also said Adam was extremely busy during the tour and they rarely saw him.

    Dave also said that Allison also wasn’t going to let the record company steamroll her as well. Also that Kris was scheduled for 23 hours per day, so they hardly ever saw him, as well.

    Also Dave said that what people were like on the show, is what they were like on tour, which is unlike years past where some people weren’t as nice as they appeared on the show.

    For the David Cook fans, this doesn’t mean David Cook, because Dave said that he’s super thrilled that someone as nice and talented as Dave Cook is getting the success he deserves, or words to that affect.

  26. Also Dave said that what people were like on the show, is what they were like on tour, which is unlike years past where some people weren’t as nice as they appeared on the show.

    In some cases that’s good, in others, not so much.

  27. Kokoki’s chat last night was on ustream, not twitter, evidently, so there isn’t any transcript…the person who made the post on ontd_ai was trying to do this just from memory.

    Going off the ontd_ai post, this is what Kokoki said:

    1. All the AI8 Idols are sweet and just like they seem on tv. Said Scott was the nicest
    2. The girls always hung out with the MFB — the guys did not
    3. Kris and Adam were so crazy busy the band hardly ever saw them. He said 19 basically had every hour of Kris’ day scheduled for him, and when Adam was around, he was usually on the phone
    4. Kokoki came up with Adam’s entrance for his set
    5. Kokoki has only heard demos from Adam, Allison and Scott – likes Adam’s and Allison’s — didn’t like Scott’s
    6. Thinks Matt is too much over the map in terms of his music — needs to pick a genre and go with it
    7. Won’t pre-order anyone’s albums, but will likely buy everyone’s except Scott’s and Danny’s (did say he would probably buy Danny’s single, though)
    8. Neither Adam or Allison are the type to let themselves be pushed around by their label (he evidently wasn’t asked about Kris on this question)
    9. His favorite sets on the tour were Adam’s and Allison’s
    10. The girls in particular were determined to always give a good show — and were hard on themselves when they thought they hadn’t. Evidently Lil was the hardest on herself
    11. He did meet Katy and thought she was very sweet
    12. He loves David Cook and is really happy about how successful he’s become
    13. He really likes Anoop’s voice

    I think that was about it. He really really really loves Allison (which we already knew). Oh and there might be a MFB show this weekend, with a special mystery guest

  28. Wow, idol peeps sure love their rankings, that comment section is entertaining.

    IMO Kelly is n °1 but I have no problem JHud or Carrie being ranked higher, it all depends on the way you define success.

    IMO and using any standard of succcess, Adam and Kris are ranked way too high on this, they have hardly sold any original music and it’s too early to tell exactly what will be their future one year from now.

  29. Which begs the question ‘” How do you define BETTER MUSIC CAREER ?

    Some exaggeration. Plus, from the one or two things I’ve heard about him post-Idol, he had terrible album sales and plays dives within a few hours of home. Melinda sang back-up for half a dozen Grammy winners. Neither Melinda nor Chris is/was exactly a star, though.

  30. The American Idol tour was more successful than the average tour this summer, in a recession, IMHO, because of Adam. And again, IMHO, Adam could return to all 52 Idol cities and fill a smaller venue several nights in a row. There would be thousands in each town wishing for more of what they saw.

    I really enjoyed Adam, but AI has its own brand identification that gives it a box office appeal for the general public that’s really independent of any individual performers. With 10 performers of very different styles, I don’t think Adam can be assigned sole credit for how the tour shows did, especially as this year wasn’t that amazingly higher than previous years. Adam did definitely get the most media attention, but when I attended a live show, the audience had a variety of favorites / co-favorites, judging by indicators like crowd anticipation & response to performances, fan signs visible, whose pictures were being carried around from the merchandise stands, etc. Adam had a huge response, definitely the loudest and most ear-piercing, lol.
    But also there was a respectable amount of screamage and support for Kris, and Kris was the one with the most obvious fan signs in the audience. Big big crowd response for Danny–he seemed to be a close co-favorite behind Adam where I attended. Also, noticeable fan support for others like Matt, and even Scott and Anoop. Besides Allison, did not seem to be that strong a reaction for the girls though. I’m not sure how many people would have been there even for Alli by herself, rather than having her as a co-favorite with one or more of the top 4 boys.

  31. What did Kokoki play on the tour? Thank you Mr. Kokoki for #4!

    He was asked to rate the instrument playing of this year’s group. He gave Kris a 6 out of 10 on guitar and Scott an 8 or 9 on piano.

    I guess someone asked him about Cook and he gave him an 8 out of 10.
    I’ve always wondered what the musicians who worked with these guys thought of their playing abilities.

  32. Let’s not give Adam all the credit for the success of the AI tour ok? That’s unfair to the other Idols, all of whom have their own fan bases. Some, like Kris and Danny, have very large fan bases. And I bet a lot of people went to the concert simply because they are fans of American Idol in general. At the show I went to here in L.A., Adam had the most support, but there was also major love for Kris, Danny and Allison. And from the comments I overheard afterwards, many people were pleased about how strong the Idols were from top to bottom.

  33. Actually, none of the S8 idols should be on the most successful list.

  34. He didn’t rank Matt?

    I can’t remember where I heard it, but some people thought Matt was better than Scott on piano. But then again, Matt probably can’t play classical like Scott.

  35. I don’t think Adam can be assigned sole credit for how the tour shows did, especially as this year wasn’t that amazingly higher than previous years.

    Agreed. Sorry, didn’t mean to imply “only Adam” reason all 10K plus people attended each city. But the fact that AI tour didn’t come up shorter than last year, in a recession, like so many tours did, is impressive. And IMHO, did feel attributable to Adam Lambert effect. He brought in the extra 10-15% that AI might have, like other tours, been short.

    But there is no question every performer had people attending “just for” them, and deservedly so. And also because there are people who love the AI tour. And that all 10 gave it their all up on stage. But most other tours had recession dips. AI did not. And the media attention, and the “a star is born” reviews, and Adam’s showmanship, and people curious from seeing his broad range on AI, helped generate sales that the recession might have prevented without him.

  36. The contemporary Christian group The Katinas is organizing a benefit concert to assist residents of the islands of Samoa and their native American Samoa, which were rocked by a massive 8.2 magnitude earthquake Tuesday that spawned a devastating tsunami

    The lead singer of the Katinas (John) is my uncle. They were born in America Samoa. Luckily their family was okay.

  37. The contemporary Christian group The Katinas is organizing a benefit concert to assist residents of the islands of Samoa and their native American Samoa, which were rocked by a massive 8.2 magnitude earthquake Tuesday that spawned a devastating tsunami

    The lead singer of the Katinas (John) is my uncle. They were born in America Samoa. Luckily their family was okay.

  38. Kokoki also said:

    Adam has a very clear mindset on what he wants on his album and he will get it.
    Allison is one who will put her foot down if she doesn’t like something.
    He had not heard any of Kris’s demos
    He rated guitar players – David Cook 8 out of 10, Kris 6 out of 10, Allison 4 out of 10.
    He really liked Blake Lewis and he is not a douchebag like some people say
    He played some soundbytes from sound check by Allison where she changed the words to “So What”
    He wasn’t surprised that Allison had a cursing parrot..lol

  39. Agreed. Sorry, didn’t mean to imply ‘only Adam’  reason all 10K plus people attended each city. But the fact that AI tour didn’t come up shorter than last year, in a recession, like so many tours did, is impressive. And IMHO, did feel attributable to Adam Lambert effect. He brought in the extra 10-15% that AI might have, like other tours, been short.

    But there is no question every performer had people attending ‘just for’  them, and deservedly so. And also because there are people who love the AI tour. And that all 10 gave it their all up on stage. But most other tours had recession dips. AI did not. And the media attention, and the ‘a star is born’  reviews, and Adam’s showmanship, and people curious from seeing his broad range on AI, helped generate sales that the recession might have prevented without him.

    IA that Adam did have a positive effect on AI tour sales but to say this will translate to a successfull solo headliner tour is premature.

    It’s kind of reminiscent of the talks about 25 million viewers do not equal 25 million album sold. AI and the AI tour have their own fans that come to the tour each year as a way to see the people they supported during the show live, yes the AI tour did well this year with the crisis but it did well also last year and the economic climat wasn’t much better (in fact IMO the financial aspect was much worse).

    Adam has a great start with the pre sales and the buzz around him, now we have to wait and see if his music and style will sell to a large audience.

  40. KrisAllen4Real

    working on a great song in the studio today. oh yeah (koolaid man voice)15 minutes ago from web

  41. And the media attention, and the ‘a star is born’  reviews, and Adam’s showmanship, and people curious from seeing his broad range on AI, helped generate sales that the recession might have prevented without him.

    I agree 100% with this. I attended 3 Concerts and 2 meet and greets, 1 more than I did last year. And that all had to do with Adam. I would not have gone to any concerts this year if not for Adam even though I liked Allison tons (my second fave) When you went to the meet and greeds, the adam line/crowd was always insane compared to the other idols. I met an Adam fan who attended 7 shows and 5 meet and greets. Last year I loved Cook and Jason Castro, had Brooke as a favorite girl, and thought Archie was really sweet. I did not have as diverse an interest this year as I did last year. So last year’s show was easy for me to decide to go too. This years was harder. I was like, ok…I LOVE Adam but I have to sit through everyone else, can I do that? So after the first show, I was surprised at how much I liked nearly all the performers, so seeing Adam twice more was no chore. I know I am not the only one who went through similar mental processes, LOL! But they all gave their all. I may have gone for Adam but I didn’t take a bathroom break on any of them. :)

  42. (in fact IMO the financial aspect was much worse).

    I’ll have to disagree with you on that one. This year is much worse than a year ago when S7 were touring. Housing prices down, people foreclosing, unemployment, no raises and/or decreased income…

  43. Kool aid man voice…Borat voice…Barry White voice…Yummy in my Tummy rapper…

    Kris has a bunch of voices, doesn’t he? But it’s good to see him so excited about what he’s working on

  44. I have been to a number of AI tours, but this years show was the only one that I paid big money to go see 3 times…and it was all because of Adam. While I am sure this has happened in the past with other idols, in talking with the people at the shows I went to, I was not alone. There were many people who were planiing to see Adam multiple times. I did not hear this so much with regards to any of the other idols. Yes, it does reinforce how passionate/crazy..ha! Adam fans are about their guy, but in this tough economy, where money is tight, it is pretty impressive that he got so many people to spend lots of money seeing him more than once. I think this says alot about what his future pull could be when it comes to filling venues, I know I will see him as many times as possible when he starts his solo tour. I can’t wait!!!

  45. Our bone has been thrown..lol

    Went to the AI show. Went only for Adam because I had to travel to go. Had never been before. Enjoyed all of them. Saw many fans of others there. Saw puffy paint shirts evenly represented between Kris, Adam and Danny. Screaming/applause impressions Adam>Danny>Kris. Allison was wonderful.

    Love the donorschoose.org article and it’s cool people are still contributing. At the end of the fan challenge, total donated was $229,000. Total under Adam’s name now is $232,889. People still contributing with the last donation 2 hours ago.

  46. Unbelievable, 2012 is now at 69. I can’t believe people are buying a soundtrack before watching the movie. I’ve never done that.

    Not touching this one…. not going there…. don’t do it, anthro……

    But, yeah, Rod is back in action for Adam…..

  47. Unbelievable, 2012 is now at 69. I can’t believe people are buying a soundtrack before watching the movie. I’ve never done that.

    Particularly one that is said to be all instrumental with the exception of Time For Miracles and one other song.

  48. Kris got 3 stars for LLWD in Rolling Stone, which is impressive, given that they are not the biggest fans of pop music. I don’t love the song–cute, not amazing–but I think I will like his album a lot.

    I think it’s amusing to pit Adam against SuBp, except that both albums are HIGHLY anticipated. Oh, and that you have Clive Davis in one corner (Adam) and Simon in the other (SuBo). No shock that Adam is leading by a decent margin, 55 to 43%, over SuBo. OTOH, how many of her fans vote online? Don’t read the comments section–as usual, it’s pretty sickening.

    And yeah, I went to the Tour b/c of Adam. I really like Kris, Allison, and Matt but I went for Adam. And the roars (at least at the Boston) show for him were deafening. I do think it matters in this economy how many times ppl are willing to shell out $65-100 for a show/performer.

  49. Love the donorschoose.org article and it’s cool people are still contributing. At the end of the fan challenge, total donated was $229,000. Total under Adam’s name now is $232,889. People still contributing with the last donation 2 hours ago.

    Sorry I just have to ask this and no offence intended but are these donations tax deductable for Adam?

  50. Poor Rodney Ho. He just does a fun little list and probably expected others to chime in with their own list and have fun with the topic only to be invaded by rabid fans who can’t tolerate it when other people don’t see their favorite the way they do. Some of the comments there are ridiculous. Seriously, fansite people: if you have to go to random blogs to shove your favorite down their throats by listing every major or minor accolade, sales figure, or personal attribute you think your fave possesses, then maybe it’s time to step back from the computer for awhile.

  51. The guy from last night who tweeted last night about Adam tweeted again. This was a couple of hrs ago but I if someone posted it already, I can’t find the thread.

    backtednted
    Beginning work on @adamlambert track and live set for @imogenheap tour. Locked in!about 2 hours ago from web

    Working on the track? Doesn’t seem to have anything to do with the video unless he is doing some editing. Is there a video already? Seems unlikely. Very confusing.

    I might take a walk over to that address that was posted last night. It’ll be my excuse for not going to the gym once again.

  52. Sorry I just have to ask this and no offence intended but are these donations tax deductable for Adam?

    No, they are not. They are tax-deductible only to the person who actually contributed. They are in honor of Adam’s name, just like scholarship programs and charities honoring a particular individual. Adam gets no monetary gain from lending his name to the charity.

  53. Agreed. Sorry, didn’t mean to imply ‘only Adam’  reason all 10K plus people attended each city. But the fact that AI tour didn’t come up shorter than last year, in a recession, like so many tours did, is impressive. And IMHO, did feel attributable to Adam Lambert effect. He brought in the extra 10-15% that AI might have, like other tours, been short.

    I think that’s a reasonable theory, and would/did credit the media attention about Adam as a factor in drawing attention to the tour and selling tickets. But I tend to think the overall breadth and diversity of the AI format, this year’s very talented Top 10, and the big AI branding/promotional engine, are the main factors helping the AI Tour do well this year despite economic factors.

    There’s a big built-in audience for a show with such huge brand-name recognition, even more so in a year when it can offer mini-concerts by popular, talented performers with the varied musical and personal appeal of Adam, Danny, Kris, and Allison, to mention only the top 4. (listing them in the order of perceived popularity at the concert I attended)

  54. Sorry I just have to ask this and no offence intended but are these donations tax deductable for Adam?

    No they are tax deductible for the person who donated. Donating under Adam’s name only gives him recognition, nothing else.

  55. smsutherland: @dannygokey ‘“ Just had late night Denny’s with our good friend Gordon Mote. Said he was working with you. Cool!!

    smsutherland: @dannygokey ‘“ Gordo also said you were one of the nicest guys he’s ever worked with. Great compliment!

    So I checked out this Gordon Mote and here’s what I found:

    He is completely visually impaired from birth. Over the years, Mote has become one of the most accomplished and sought-after recording studio session players in Nashville, TN. He has played on recording sessions for the likes of Martina McBride, Alan Jackson, Trace Adkins, Randy Travis, Kenny Chesney, Rascal Flatts, Mark Lowry, the Gaither Vocal Band, Ernie Haase & Signature Sound and The Martins. Recently recognized by both Music Row Magazine and the Academy of Country Music as the Piano/Keyboard Player of the Year for 2009, this summer, Gordon has maintained a busy schedule, recording with major country artists such as Blake Shelton, Brad Paisley, Carrie Underwood, and Josh Turner, as well as recording the new Gaither Vocal Band album and video.

    I am glad that Danny got to work with someone like Gordon Mote. I am glad to see that Danny is working with good people (Mark Bright, Gordon Mote), I am looking forward to his debut single and album.

  56. Sarver’s having a twitter party :) Apparently, he texts the Idols and misses them.

  57. I’m curious to see how the promotion of the two singles differs, if it does at all, and where Allison ends up on the charts.

    This will be interesting, I think Allison has already won in terms of single cover art, that cover is amazing. She looks beautiful but the impishness of her personality comes shining through. Definitely will be an attention getter in an Itunes banner.

  58. I thought I posted a question about the video shoot, but I don’t see it. Anyways anyone know what’s up with that? It’s today right?

  59. It will be interesting once Allison’s single drops. The real comparison will be between Allison and Kris since they both share Jive. I’m curious to see how the promotion of the two singles differs, if it does at all, and where Allison ends up on the charts.

    Kris got some really great promotion opportà ºnities with the really big radio stations. Haven’t heard all of Allisons song but from the little that I heard I’d put my money on her charting higher.

  60. I am glad that Danny got to work with someone like Gordon Mote. I am glad to see that Danny is working with good people (Mark Bright, Gordon Mote), I am looking forward to his debut single and album.

    I agree, hope some other hints will drop now that Danny has launched into his recording process with RCA Nashville and Mark Bright. Danny had a short live appearance over the weekend as a guest at a Christian-oriented conference. Looked like a big crowd there, Danny sounded great. Possibly better for this song than at his MSMC appearance last week, or at least his vocals come through much more clearly in the video that’s out with just a simple piano in the background. http://www.twitvid.com/8CD25

  61. I agree, hope some other hints will drop now that Danny has launched into his recording process with RCA Nashville and Mark Bright. Danny had a short live appearance over the weekend as a guest at a Christian-oriented conference. Looked like a big crowd there, Danny sounded great. Possibly better for this song than at his MSMC appearance last week, or at least his vocals come through much more clearly in the video that’s out with just a simple piano in the background. http://www.twitvid.com/8CD25

    I definitely want to hear more about Danny’s recording process, and things he’s doing to prepare for the debut of his first single and album. I definitely want to hear about which songwriters he will use for his album.

    Also, I enjoyed that performance of Danny at the Joyce Meyer conference. He sounds pretty good IMO, and that crowd is huge.

  62. I wouldn’t be so quick to think Allison will chart higher than Kris. First of all, there’s been less buzz about Allison then there has been about Kris. She hasn’t gotten any promotional stuff as far as I can tell. Hopefully Jive will arrange some media for her once the single drops. Because, going off LLWD, it appears strong reviews don’t necessarily equate to great sales. And is she even going to get a banner on iTunes? If Jive didn’t shell out for a front page banner for Kris, I doubt they will do so for Allison. She might get a small banner on one of the inside pages…

    I couldn’t tell much definitively from the snippet I heard over the phone. The sound quality was just too lousy. But I wasn’t blown away by what I did hear. It was ok, not great. It sounded like it would fit in with what they play on the radio, but I didn’t hear much that was distinctively Allison. But again, the sound quality was awful, so it’s not fair to judge. I’m hoping I’ll be more impressed when I hear the full single Monday.

  63. Just read the comments at the EW post. Kinda scary. Some Adam fans are really starting to make him look bad, are they ever going to release it?

  64. Also, I enjoyed that performance of Danny at the Joyce Meyer conference. He sounds pretty good IMO, and that crowd is huge.

    On the second song in this video, Danny has the audience singing along with the praise song; as it develops, he’s basically singing a duet with the entire audience, very beautiful.

    Danny is really really good at building a relationship with live audiences in his performances. Here it’s a faith-oriented audience/performance, but I saw it on the AI Tour with his mainstream performances as well, especially the two Rascal Flatts songs he did at the end of his set. You could also see that ability in the MSMC concert videos MJ posted here from last weekend.

  65. Unbelievable, 2012 is now at 69. I can’t believe people are buying a soundtrack before watching the movie. I’ve never done that.

    Not touching this one’ ¦. not going there’ ¦. don’t do it, anthro’ ¦’ ¦

    But, yeah, Rod is back in action for Adam’ ¦..

    Anthro, you never cease to crack me up. (another crack, crack).

  66. But, yeah, Rod is back in action for Adam’ ¦..

    Anthro, you never cease to crack me up. (another crack, crack).

    Well, you must admit Adam and Rod make a great couple, hanging out there together at #69 on the charts. They really feed off each other’s energy…. Maybe the one cover song that Adam promised us on the CD will be “You Raise Me Up” by Josh Groban.

  67. Kinda scary. Some Adam fans are really starting to make him look bad, are they ever going to release it?

    Are they really fans? If so it’s becoming very disheartening to see that kind of behaviour. It only gives him and all Adam fans a bad name. Look what happened with Clay and the Claymates. They became a joke. People should be glad that RCA is taking their time with Adam so they get it right. Do people want a piece of crap to be released just for the sake of new music?

  68. Kinda scary. Some Adam fans are really starting to make him look bad, are they ever going to release it?

    Are they really fans?
    If so it’s becoming very disheartening to see that kind of behaviour.

    That’s my question.

  69. Well, you must admit Adam and Rod make a great couple, hanging out there together at #69 on the charts. They really feed off each other’s energy’ ¦. Maybe the one cover song that Adam promised us on the CD will be ‘You Raise Me Up’  by Josh Groban.

    Anthro, such visualization.

    Geesh, three places for Adam speak today. mj should just have an Adam thread with the three headings.

  70. The comments on both the AJC and EW.com articles are sickenning, you need to have some thick skin to be an AI blogger.

  71. steph6449,

    I definitely enjoy the way that Danny connects with live audiences. ITA that he builds a relationship with audiences in his performances and I think that is really nice to see. I think that his ability to do that will serve him well in his music career.

  72. Kinda scary. Some Adam fans are really starting to make him look bad, are they ever going to release it?

    Are they really fans? If so it’s becoming very disheartening to see that kind of behaviour.

    That’s my question.

    I don’t really know what was being said. However, on the AI board, there were Adam trolls who went on the other idols forums making Adam fans look bad. The real Adam fans could spot them as trolls and called them out. Unfortunately, you can’t do that in articles.

  73. Here’s the first video to pop up from David Cook’s concert in Montreal last night. I hope more will be coming later today. It sounded like an epic concert.

    Lie

    ETA: Mr. Sensitive (partial)

  74. Just listened to Dannys concert. Sounds great! I don’t think Danny will end up forgotten and out of work if he can pull that off.

  75. Just listened to Dannys concert. Sounds great! I don’t think Danny will end up forgotten and out of work if he can pull that off.

    Ditto. Danny sounded great. Thanks for the posting the video!

  76. Also, I wouldn’t be so scared of the claymate syndrome. The day Adam fans charts a whole bus and Adam secures special seats for the travelling adamites on late nights shows that’s when I’ll start to worry. Or when Adam starts keeping score on how many bras were thrown at him during concerts.

    From what people have said on this blog, claymates became what they are because Clay encouraged it.

  77. I have worries about how Jive is going to market Allison. I’ve been thinking more about this this morning. She doesn’t have nearly as big of a core fanbase as Adam, Kris or Danny — that was proven by the fact that she was in the Bottom 3 on the show numerous times, and at the concert dates it seemed like she didn’t get quite the same type of love as the Top 3 guys did.

    She’s a 17-year-old rocker. The teenagers on the charts these days are the Disneyfied types like Miley Cyrus and Selena Gomez and Demi Lovato. Are the tweens (especially the tween girls) going to support Allison? I’ve also seen a bunch of complaints about the lyrics of some of the songs Allison has done being too mature for a 17-year-old who doesn’t appear to have much real life experience with boys/men. But if she starts singing about things more suitable to her age group, will older listeners connect to it? She also seems a little polarizing in that I’ve seen comments about her behavior at some of the meet& greets and about how some people can’t understand her tweets or when she does interviews.

    I think Allison is amazingly talented and very funny/sweet, but I just wonder about how she and Jive are going to be able to position her successfully in the current market. I suppose if the songs are amazing all the other stuff won’t matter, but I just worry that she seems to have so many obstacles to overcome if she is to be successful fairly quickly.

    Am I just being too much of a worrywart?

  78. Am I just being too much of a worrywart?

    Yup! I really think her single will chart, from what I heard it has the right mix of attitude and popiness. She can not rely on any idol fanbase but Jive knew that when signing her. If Miley has an audience then Alison can certainly be succesful.

  79. saga
    October 3, 2009 at 2:35 pm
    Just listened to Dannys concert. Sounds great! I don’t think Danny will end up forgotten and out of work if he can pull that off.

    While it remains to be seen what the long-term future holds for all of the AI8 finalists, with a major record label deal in hand and recordings underway with a top Nashville producer, I don’t think Danny is in any imminent danger of signing up for food stamps, lol.

    He did sound really great in front of a big audience, probably winning quite a number of new fans.

  80. BestAI
    October 3, 2009 at 2:31 pm
    Kinda scary. Some Adam fans are really starting to make him look bad, are they ever going to release it?

    Are they really fans? If so it’s becoming very disheartening to see that kind of behaviour.

    That’s my question.

    I don’t really know what was being said. However, on the AI board, there were Adam trolls who went on the other idols forums making Adam fans look bad. The real Adam fans could spot them as trolls and called them out. Unfortunately, you can’t do that in articles.

    Don’t think they are trolls but you never know.VFTW has a adam post and its not trolls.The good thing about twitter you can find out.All the tweets they have posted are adam fans.Those fans will go to his concerts and piss adam’s new fans off.Welcome to the world of ADAM-MATES.

  81. Good to see another good review of LLWD, the 3 stars by Rolling Stone is good news, seeing as they don’t seem to be Kris’s biggest fans. Though speaking of Kris’s biggest fans, the EW score not being given by Michael Slezak is also a good thing. And LLWD is getting more spins, notably I read on Z100 which is cool! So I agree, it’s too early to say whether Allisons’s song will do better than LLWD, especially when Allison’s fanbase is most probably smaller than Kris’s. And we’ll see what promotion Jive gives Allison in the days to come.

    That being said, I will wait to hear the full song, of course, but from what I heard, I could totally see it being a hit and quicker than Kris’s initially seems to be. Which I still think that LLWD a la LO, could still end up doing well, but just starting slower, because I still think it’s a song I can see being popular. Though frankly, I like the snippet I heard of Allisons’s song more than I liked the snippet I heard of Kris’s song. And with Kris’s song I ended up not really liking the final version, so I suspect I’m going to end up liking Allison’s song if the pattern carries through. But we’ll see.

    Particularly one that is said to be all instrumental with the exception of Time For Miracles and one other song.

    The other song is by Filter, btw.

  82. Here’s the first video to pop up from David Cook’s concert in Montreal last night. I hope more will be coming later today. It sounded like an epic concert.

    Lie

    Yay, thanks for the videos. I love Lie – beautiful, beautiful.

  83. I think Allison is amazingly talented and very funny/sweet, but I just wonder about how she and Jive are going to be able to position her successfully in the current market. I suppose if the songs are amazing all the other stuff won’t matter, but I just worry that she seems to have so many obstacles to overcome if she is to be successful fairly quickly.

    Am I just being too much of a worrywart?

    Yeah, I think you are. Allison seems to have major support from Jive for her record. She’s got one of the top A&R people assigned to her and it seems they are heavily invested in her. The people she has worked with, writers/producers are all very positive about her and that can’t be anything but good. I think music like she’s talked about will be very commercial and she’s got a great voice. She’s not middle-of-the-road and outside the Idol bubble, that’s really important. What appeals to Idol voters does not always translate to the public as a whole.

    Allison’s got a voice that is unusual and she knows how to work it. I’m not worried.

  84. Don’t think they are trolls but you never know.VFTW has a adam post and its not trolls.The good thing about twitter you can find out.All the tweets they have posted are adam fans.Those fans will go to his concerts and piss adam’s new fans off.Welcome to the world of ADAM-MATES.

    Yeah, and there is tons of hate and nasty things said about Adam and by gasp, fans of other idols! I mean nasty, personal things and they feel the need to do on many boards and spread it, does this mean all Kris fans and Allison fans, for example, are homophobic or nasty asses? Of course not. So Adam has some cray cray fans, granted, and? All other fanbases do as well. Every single one. But there seems to be more Adam stans online just by number, so if the number of the whole is larger, therefore it stands to reason that the number of crazies, will be larger. The percentage might be the same, not that we’ll ever know one way or the other, but it probably is about the same. However, it looks like more, because it is more…numberwise, but not necessarily representing the fanbase anymore than it does for any other fanbase, not just AI, but other fanbases.

    Which I assure you puh-lenty of other online fanbases have their fair share of crazies, yes even more so than I think AI and yes, Adam fans in particular do. Check out fandom wank for a running count of the blow ups in the online fandom world. It’s good, if scary, times. I particularly enjoy the stuff about the Harry Potter fanbases and their many and varied drahmas.

  85. It’s good, if scary, times. I particularly enjoy the stuff about the Harry Potter fanbases and their many and varied drahmas.

    LOL..Yep, I’ve seen them in many fandoms. I remember the Buffy fanwars – ie Angel vs Spike, OZ vs Tara and reading articles where each actor was trashed and ridiculed by the other faction. It’s not new to fandom, nor is it new to American Idol.

    One thing I do like is that Adam has tried to set some limits on his cray-crays. Entitlement isn’t sexy, taking care of himself rather than the barricades, refuting rumors when Danny was getting trashed. He’s not encouraging the BSC and seems to be making his decisions based on common sense rather than catering to the crazies.

  86. SarahP
    October 3, 2009 at 3:15 pm
    kris’s latest twitpic

    Welcome to my office. http://twitpic.com/k4bvh
    32 minutes ago from Echofo

    Can someone share what is in this picture, it’s too dark for me.

  87. All the hand-wringing about Adam’s fans making him look bad is wasted energy. Any fan who misbehaves only makes themself look bad, and Adam’s fans are no better or worse than the other fans.

  88. Lulz his latest…

    @thedavidcook I just learned that wearing a cape in a coffee shop is more socially acceptable here than back home. Good to know. :)

    @thedavidcook PS I am not wearing said cape. Some girl talking about auras was

    The only thing to make that more funny would be for Kris to tweet back with YEAH CAPES!!

  89. Why does that picture of Kris’ office make it seem like a batcave? Seriously, that’s dark. I would be crashing into furniture and things left and right.

  90. From Brooke White’s twitter party today:

    RT @katgokey: @realbrookewhite Favorite AI S8 performance from anyone? A: kris allen’s second performance of “ain’t no sunshine”

    SAME HERE!!!!

  91. Good to see another good review of LLWD, the 3 stars by Rolling Stone is good news, seeing as they don’t seem to be Kris’s biggest fans. Though speaking of Kris’s biggest fans, the EW score not being given by Michael Slezak is also a good thing. And LLWD is getting more spins, notably I read on Z100 which is cool!

    Just out of curiosity, how soon normally do good reviews and more radio spins reflect in sales? Last week, regardless there were itune pass effect/confusion on Kris fans and few radio spins, LLWD was hanging at #30 in itune chart, peaking at #25. This week, media is picking up llwd and llwd has more spins on Z100 and other big radio stations, so people outside AI bubble are supposably exposed to the song. However, llwd is lingering at #50-60 in itune chart.

    I know it is still too early to tell if the song will sales. I seldom listen to radio so I’m just curious when we can see the effect of radio spins (since some posters point out its importance in selling songs) on llwd.

  92. I wonder if Kris is going to Simon’s birthday bash, since he is in London now

    it would be appropriate and nice if was invited though since he’s there

  93. Altho I’m primarily an Adam fan, I think Danny has a really good voice and I’d be happy to buy his album depending on the songs he chooses. I think he could do really well, and I do believe he has a big fan base. If he can just manage to keep his foot out of his mouth. Actually, I wonder if it would be a good idea for his first album to be more Christian and then work his way to Country.

  94. Lulz his latest’ ¦

    @thedavidcook I just learned that wearing a cape in a coffee shop is more socially acceptable here than back home. Good to know.

    @thedavidcook PS I am not wearing said cape. Some girl talking about auras was

    The only thing to make that more funny would be for Kris to tweet back with YEAH CAPES!!

    His bandmate just chimed in:

    @andyskib He wishes it were his cape though people…

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  96. I know it is still to early to tell if the song will sales. I seldom listen to radio so I’m just curious when we can see the effect of radio spins (since some posters point out its importance in selling songs) on llwd.

    It’s way too soon, selling songs via radio airplay is a long process and the stations are just starting to play Kris. It’s a hard concept to grasp for AI fans who dissect every hour of every day to see signs of improvements.

    What is really important right now is that we see steady improvement in the number of spins and audience impression of LLWD.

  97. Yeah, the way it usually works is the more people hear the song, the more likely they are to buy it. It’s early days for Kris but it looks like the song is getting a better response on HAC than Top 40 radio stations.

    I think Kris has a Jordin Sparks size Idol fanbase. But her songs made it on Top 40 (which has a very big audience). So he may have less ears hearing this song and therefore fewer sales.

    He’s def not starting with big sales compared to past Idol folk.

  98. Why does that picture of Kris’ office make it seem like a batcave? Seriously, that’s dark. I would be crashing into furniture and things left and right.

    Well Kris does like keeping his fans in the dark about what he’s doing, this might just be a physical representation of that.

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  100. I think Kris has a Jordin Sparks size Idol fanbase. But her songs made it on Top 40 (which has a very big audience). So he may have less ears hearing this song and therefore fewer sales.

    He’s def not starting with big sales compared to past Idol folk.

    It might be too early to say and maybe a lot of Kris’ fans have been sleeping but this is the reason I think that Alison and Kris start from similar circumstances. It seems both of them released (or will release) singles capable of getting them a fanbase outside AI. It will be interesting to see how they both fare.

    Maybe Danny and Adam have the largest fanbases? I think we have evidence that Adams might be large but we don’t really know much about Dannys. It will be interesting to see when he releases his first single.

  101. dannygokey Driving from Atlanta 2 Nashville 2 get back n the studio. Im gonna hav some exciting stuff 2 tweet about this wk ~ like I said b4 stay tuned

    Danny is very tweet happy when talking about his work. They want to release the single very fast, I don’t think we’ll have to wait very long, wonder if it’s a good or a bad sign.

  102. They want to release the single very fast, I don’t think we’ll have to wait very long, wonder if it’s a good or a bad sign.

    If they could, they probably should finish the album before christmas to cash in on the holiday buyers.

    Also to avoid over shadowing of s9 of AI.

  103. Hot

    HotHot
    October 3, 2009 at 3:48 pm
    Altho I’m primarily an Adam fan, I think Danny has a really good voice and I’d be happy to buy his album depending on the songs he chooses. I think he could do really well, and I do believe he has a big fan base. [..] Actually, I wonder if it would be a good idea for his first album to be more Christian and then work his way to Country.

    I’m primarily a Danny fan but Adam was/is my second favorite and I’d be happy to buy his album depending on the songs he chooses :) I think it’s pretty clear Danny’s album will be mainstream country music, in a modern country crossover model. His music presumably will have Christian values and some inspirational messages, though.
    The Rascal Flatts songs Danny has gravitated toward so far are a demonstration. He’s said he may put one more direct gospel song on each album, however, and that he will “never depart” from his love of church music. This weekend’s performance at the JM conference was probably an example of how Danny plans to keep that connection while going in a mainstream direction. I won’t be surprised if other AI finalists this year do the same; several have backgrounds singing in church or other Christian-influenced environments (Kris, Lil, Michael, Matt, Scott?).

  104. Now that the first two singles have bombed, is 19E/Jive going to pour much more money into the kid who won Idol? Or just go ahead and Hicks him now?

  105. hwc
    October 3, 2009 at 4:59 pm
    Now that the first two singles have bombed, is 19E/Jive going to pour much more money into the kid who won Idol? Or just go ahead and Hicks him now?

    Ah, I missed you.

  106. I think LLWD is really safe right now. The most important thing is it’s getting air-play way before the official add date which is a huge plus. Come 13th of October, it’s going to blast. LLWD already has 10 radio stations under it’s belt.
    Secondly, if you watch the chart carefully, you would realise that, with the exception of a few, the artists above Kris are well known and established and have been on the charts for a long time, even some are below him. Kris is new but has managed to be going back and forth without falling off the chart which shows longevity. It is better than peaking up there and falling off the chart completely.
    I think Jive’s game plan for Kris was to put out something immediately after the tour, get radio play, put his name out there for people outside idol to hear till his album drop and don’t really care about the huge sales now. And personally, I believe it’s working really good.
    I also felt that they intentionally didn’t put his picture on itunes, in a way, try to sell his music and not him. Many have tried to associate his win to his “cuteness”. It’s a good move on Jive’s part I think.
    So take heart ‘cos we ain’t seen nothing yet with LLWD.

  107. Maybe Danny and Adam have the largest fanbases? I think we have evidence that Adams might be large but we don’t really know much about Dannys. It will be interesting to see when he releases his first single.

    It’s hard to tell. Adam has very visible fans online, big responses from the AI concert tour, and a lot of media people apt to help him. Purely from the AI show, though, I had the impression when Simon was so openly telling people to vote for Adam on the Top 3 nite that he was worried Adam could be on the bubble (vs. Kris, I think Simon thought Danny was in the clear). Regardless of that, Adam may have to worry at least a little about overly high expectations and disappointing fans who really liked one side of his performances–those who want him to rock, for example, when he seems to be choosing another direction.

    Kris won, so you can’t discount he must have many many fans, or at least a very good number of extremely active fans–probably some of both. Kris has gotten more positive media than I’d envisioned, but less than Adam, and he seemed to be overshadowed in the Kris+Adam co-appearances that were so common until very recently. And as the winner, along with the advantages of that, he carries a lot of expectations about what his sales and popularity should look like.

    Danny hasn’t had a ton of major media push yet, but presumably more would be expected as the time comes closer for release of his single in November. Despite less big-market media buzz, Danny seems to be retaining and building a broad base of fans, not all of whom may be online that much or in the “trendier” parts of the media. More the silent majority who sometimes can rise up in big numbers.

    Expectations for success in the country music market aren’t quite as heavy in pure units of sale compared to pop. My guess is that Adam will have the biggest gross numbers for his first release, but will he meet the huge expectations being built? And how his sales go for a second album will depend on how much people really like the music, vs. liking Adam. With good song choices and decent record label support, it may be easiest for Danny of the three to exceed expectations with his record deal, but don’t think we can judge any of them until more of their original music is out for evaluation and purchase. So far, only Kris has even one full song out in the public? Or two, counting NoBo, lol.

  108. I wasn’t talking about voting fanbases but more music bying fans. So far, I think we all were suprised that Kris didn’t sell more, meaning his music buying fanbase was quite small even though he won AI. As for Adam, the amazon pre sales and the donorschoice success indicates he might have a large music buying fanbase. As for Danny and Alison the jury is still out.

  109. I know it is still too early to tell if the song will sales. I seldom listen to radio so I’m just curious when we can see the effect of radio spins

    It’s still very early in the game. I wouldn’t expect the spins or sales for LLWD to take off right away. These things take time. I have a feeling Kris will follow the Jordin path: starting slowly but finishing strong. Both don’t have the kind of Idol fanbase that will powerbuy them to big opening week sales numbers, but Jordin has proven that you don’t need to have that type of fanbase to be successful. We’ll see what happens.

    It’s a hard concept to grasp for AI fans who dissect every hour of every day to see signs of improvements.

    Very true.

  110. I love Acoustic Dave!

    (And did he trim his bangs??)

    God that voice. Swooooon. tierbee the pic along with this review from last night does make it looks like he got an actual haircut. Thank GOD.

  111. God that voice. Swooooon. tierbee the pic along with this review from last night does make it looks like he got an actual haircut. Thank GOD.

    Beautiful powerful voice of David Cook. I think he did have a haircut but not much. Thank GOD indeed. LOL

  112. I have a feeling Kris will follow the Jordin path: starting slowly but finishing strong. Both don’t have the kind of Idol fanbase that will powerbuy them to big opening week sales numbers, but Jordin has proven that you don’t need to have that type of fanbase to be successful. We’ll see what happens.

    Imo the difference between Jordin and Kris could be that he will not be so docile like Jordin. And it will be interesting to see how that work out for him.

  113. Again, it’s way too soon to declare whether any of this season’s Idols will or won’t sell well. It’s still more than one week before radio stations are supposed to officially add LLWD — yet some stations — including Z-100 — have already done so. It’s a good sign that the single is picking up a bunch of spins before it’s official add date, yes? LLWD may be a slow burner in terms of chart success. Or it may never climb high on the charts. With Kris in London, there hasn’t been any real promotion behind LLWD the past week, and it has dropped back down the iTunes charts again. Will it go back up once Kris is back in the US and possibly does some more promotion? Or will it continue to stagnate or drop?

    It’s great that Adam’s album is sitting at #1 on amazon.com right now, but do we even know what that means? Do they give actual sales figures? All it means is that he’s outsold everyone else for a short period of time. It doesn’t mean thousands and thousands of people have actually pre-ordered it. And if all of Adam’s fans have already pre-ordered it, who is going to buy it once the album drops? Like all the other AI8 Idols, Adam needs people who aren’t hardcore AI and/or Adam fans to want to spend $$$ on his stuff if he wants to have long-term chart success.

    And Danny is a real wildcard. He’s supposed to be a country artist? Yet we still don’t know whether he’s going to be able to pull that off. Singing two (IMO, sappy) Rascal Flatts songs on tour doesn’t make him a country singer. Are his hardcore fans going to buy his stuff even if they don’t like country music? Are hardcore country fans going to accept someone who, until a couple of months ago had no intention of being a country singer? And they seem to be rushing to get s single out by November. But on the other hand, he seems to be working with a lot of top people with Mark Bright, which should be an advantage.

    I don’t know — my head is spinning…

  114. girlygirl: Like all the other AI8 Idols, Adam needs people who aren’t hardcore AI and/or Adam fans to want to spend $$$ on his stuff if he wants to have long-term chart success.

    I believe that’s where the buzz comes in. Adam’s name is already making important inroads outside the AI world…the gossip columns, the MSM news outlets… TV (Showbiz Tonight on CNN)– even business publications.
    So the #1 Amazon listing may be courtesy the hardcore fans– the subsequent headlines and other media buzz are a result of that– and that is PR gold.

  115. I’m assuming since Kris is tweeting, he didn’t go to Simon’s birthday bash…

    KrisAllen4real

    #Just had kangaroo for dinner. Kinda feel bad but it was really good.
    15 minutes ago from Echofon

    Oh no…he ate little ‘Roo????!!! IDK how I feel about this….

    Must’ve gone to an Australian restaurant…there are lots of Aussie expats living in London…

  116. chessguy99: I don’t think Adam has much to worry about in Susan Boyle. Their audiences barely overlap. What could cut into his retail sales is Lady GaGa re-releasing The Fame on that day. They are going to repackage it for release in conjunction with her Kanye-less arena tour. Lady Gaga and Adam should have a substantial overlap in audience. The reigning Queen of Glam Pop has the power to pull a number of those retail sales away from the Crown Prince of Glam Pop.

    SuBo will most likely take #1 album the week of 11/24. Lady Gaga will not be a huge seller because “Monster Fame” is CD reissue “platinum extravaganza” that will sell for over $50. It is designed to be a Christmas gift item just like Britney Spear’s $99.98 singles reissue deluxe album that is also being released on 11/24/09.

  117. I think Kris has a single that is capable of carying him outside the AI bubble. I think Alison has one too. I think going country is the best deicision Danny has ever made and I think Adam has a somewhat large music bying fan base from AI.

  118. SuBo will most likely take #1 album the week of 11/24. Lady Gaga will not be a huge seller because ‘Monster Fame’  is CD reissue ‘platinum extravaganza’  that will sell for over $50. It is designed to be a Christmas gift item just like Britney Spear’s $99.98 singles reissue deluxe album that is also being released on 11/24/09.

    I agree with all of that, I expect SuBo to continue her inexpliably successful career and have the number 1 album that week. Baffles me still.

    It’s still more than one week before radio stations are supposed to officially add LLWD ‘” yet some stations ‘” including Z-100 ‘” have already done so. It’s a good sign that the single is picking up a bunch of spins before it’s official add date, yes? LLWD may be a slow burner in terms of chart success.

    What? we shouldn’t determine the success of Kris’s single with not even two weeks from being released and before it’s offical radio adds day? you talk crazy. And yeah, I agree that the increase in spins is a good sign and hopefully they’ll be more after the radio adds date and more purchasing from that increased exposure. Or so I hope, at any rate.

  119. “And Danny is a real wildcard. He’s supposed to be a country artist? Yet we still don’t know whether he’s going to be able to pull that off. Singing two (IMO, sappy) Rascal Flatts songs on tour doesn’t make him a country singer. Are his hardcore fans going to buy his stuff even if they don’t like country music? Are hardcore country fans going to accept someone who, until a couple of months ago had no intention of being a country singer? [..] But on the other hand, he seems to be working with a lot of top people with Mark Bright, which should be an advantage.’

    Country’s a good place for inspirational (aka ~sappy, in some opinions) songs, they sell really well in that market. I correspond with quite a few AI fans of Danny from around the country. Some are not country music fans (I am one), but they are planning to buy his album.
    I can’t imagine Danny going into hardcore country; he knows what suits his voice and personality, and I’m sure he knows he’d lose more current and potential fans that he could possibly gain. I don’t know how many hardcore country fans will embrace Danny, but peeps can like more than one type of music at the same time. (A surprising number of AI fans like both Adam and Danny, for example, me among them.)
    As traditional a country artist as Randy Travis has said positive things about Danny, and even encouraged him into the country genre. Keith Urban called Danny his favorite on AI8 and complimented his voice. If Sony Nashville can get Danny into appearances within the Nashville scene to start building a (modern) country career image and networking in the industry, he should do ok. They didn’t have a lot of time to do much until recently, between the AI tour schedule, Danny’s MSMC concert, and his first recording sessions last week.
    I think we will see a lot more of Danny publicly later this month and especially next month building toward the release of his single. Danny is also due in California for an appearance in mid-November; seems like great timing for him to make the rounds on tv and other media outlets.

  120. Not saying Danny won’t be successful. But of the Top 4, he’s the only one who is trying to work in a genre he hadn’t identified as being what he wanted to do when he was on the show.

    It may turn out being the smartest decision Danny ever made (or was coerced into making) in his career. Who knows?

  121. Amazon :
    Adam Bestseller is now no.2 and Streisand is back to No. 1
    2012 is on Bestsellers Music Chart at no. 45.
    Kris is no.95. Can’t find Allison’s.
    Adam’s album is No. 2 next to Streisand on Top Pop songs
    and Adam is no. 1 on the Rock Songs chart .

    It will be interesting to see if Adam’s album stays on the Top 100 until his album gets released. His label will need to do more promotions for the sales to go the distance .
    Wonder when they will start doing that.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/music/40/ref=pd_ts_m_nav

  122. What? we shouldn’t determine the success of Kris’s single with not even two weeks from being released and before it’s offical radio adds day? you talk crazy. And yeah, I agree that the increase in spins is a good sign and hopefully they’ll be more after the radio adds date and more purchasing from that increased exposure. Or so I hope, at any rate.

    I agree that it is too soon to call LLWD a “flop” but the initial response is not promising.

    I have been worried about the choice of LLWD since it first leaked, and even more after I heard Kris’ version of it. I do not believe that this song is a good choice for the US market. It is a song by a band, The Script, that has never had a North American hit — ever though they have been promoted in the US since last March. And it is a song The Script didn’t consider good enough to include on their debut album.

    The only place in the US that The Script did well was on iTunes, so if this song is going to sell, I would expect to see some sales response on iTunes.

    IMO even a ton of radio airplay will not turn LLWD into a hit single.

    hwc: Now that the first two singles have bombed, is 19E/Jive going to pour much more money into the kid who won Idol? Or just go ahead and Hicks him now?

    This is my greatest fear for Kris. As LLWD has dropped to #60 on the iTunes chart, how much money will Jive invest in it? And since the song isn’t showing a lot of initial fan interest, will stations really give it a lot of spins? I just hope that Jive promotes Kris’ album agressively — and that is really difficult to do without a hit single.

  123. I love Acoustic Dave!

    (And did he trim his bangs??)

    God that voice. Swooooon. tierbee the pic along with this review from last night does make it looks like he got an actual haircut. Thank GOD.

    Beautiful voice, when will the rest of the world get to hear him live and appreciate him. Love Acoustic !!!

  124. It may turn out being the smartest decision Danny ever made (or was coerced into making) in his career. Who knows?

    I fully expect Danny got advice on what might and might not work best in the different markets. He also seems to have spent a lot of time thinking about what he wants to accomplish and where it fits into the music world. Fairly quickly in that process, he talked about message being important to him, and that country is where what he wants to talk about is “housed.”

    I don’t have any sense that Danny was coerced into country. Watching the first interviews as his record deal was on the verge of announcement, Danny was totally bubbling over with repressed excitement about what he had in the works, and pretty much seems still thrilled about it all now. Danny’s also been saying since early summer that he wanted to work with Mark Bright to do a non-CCM/gospel album. That equates to Danny wanting to do country basically. If Danny had been solely dreaming of some genre like R&B, he wouldn’t have been aspiring after Mark to produce him, nor would Mark have had the interest on his side that he clearly had.

  125. I think Kris may have angered a few vegetarians/animal lovers with his last tweet…although he’s also getting a bunch of funny/sarcastic replies

  126. I don’t have any sense that Danny was coerced into country. Watching the first interviews as his record deal was on the verge of announcement, Danny was totally bubbling over with repressed excitement about what he had in the works, and pretty much seems still thrilled about it all now. Danny’s also been saying since early summer that he wanted to work with Mark Bright to do a non-CCM/gospel album. That equates to Danny wanting to do country basically. If Danny had been solely dreaming of some genre like R&B, he wouldn’t have been aspiring after Mark to produce him

    Danny is doing country because that’s what he was told to do. He literally didn’t know what the Grand Ole Opry was up until a couple months ago so he knows nothing about the genre and didn’t listen to it prior to AI. He’s excited because he wants to become a star and if that means singing country that’s what he’ll do. Christian music wasn’t a large enough forum for him and I think somebody finally convinced him r&b/salsa wasn’t going to work.

    He’s enthused about Mark Bright because that is who is producing him and he’s been told the guy is good. It’s not like Danny knew him from a hole in the wall before 19 told him to sign with RCA Nashville.

  127. He’s excited because he wants to become a star and if that means singing country that’s what he’ll do.

    Yep.

  128. This is my greatest fear for Kris. As LLWD has dropped to #60 on the iTunes chart, how much money will Jive invest in it? And since the song isn’t showing a lot of initial fan interest, will stations really give it a lot of spins?

    That’s part of the normal pattern for idol initial single releases… a big surge up the chart for the first few days, then it gradually drops down to a level of sales that matches its actual airplay, then rises again as the airplay rises. His (badly handled) first few days of sales are over. So now it will drop and then rise again as the song gains audience.

    LLWD has been gaining spins steadily, and got a decent amount of adds this past week. As long as it is still doing that there is no issue. PDs don’t program by ITunes sales… they will look at market testing data, requests, stuff like that. Still to early to worry about Kris, IMO.

  129. Still to early to worry about Kris, IMO.

    I hope you are right about this. However, did Allison’s release just pop out from the blue. It could be that Jive is trying to recoup it’s investment in their other artist, Allison. Was this Allison release even scheduled?

  130. LLWD seems to be preetty popular in terms of radio play so far…it has won a lot of stations’ online “what do you want to hear” type contests…listeners are requesting it and the stations are playing it. On ontd_ai.com, people were saying they’ve heard it on Z-100 multiple times today, and I know people have said they are hearing it fairly often on their hometown stations as well.

  131. LLWD has been gaining spins steadily, and got a decent amount of adds this past week. As long as it is still doing that there is no issue. PDs don’t program by ITunes sales’ ¦ they will look at market testing data, requests, stuff like that. Still to early to worry about Kris, IMO.

    I’ve done market testing for years, and my bet is the numbers on LLWD don’t look great. Except for Country and Urban/Hip Hop music there is almost always a very strong correlation between iTunes sales, YouTube viewership and consumer testing data.

    PDs do look at the support the song has from the label — and no doubt, in this case, Jive knows exactly what LLWD has done on iTunes — not much. It is clear that LLWD will not become an “organic hit” — and the real question is how much will Jive invest in this single?

  132. I think I might be going to a Kelly Clarkson concert this fall :O
    I just have to see if the parents will drive me 3 hours to see her, is it worth it?

  133. Danny is doing country because that’s what he was told to do. He literally didn’t know what the Grand Ole Opry was up until a couple months ago so he knows nothing about the genre and didn’t listen to it prior to AI. He’s excited because he wants to become a star and if that means singing country that’s what he’ll do. Christian music wasn’t a large enough forum for him and I think somebody finally convinced him r&b/salsa wasn’t going to work.

    He’s enthused about Mark Bright because that is who is producing him and he’s been told the guy is good. It’s not like Danny knew him from a hole in the wall before 19 told him to sign with RCA Nashville.

    Danny’s made it pretty clear he’s moving ahead based on what he wants to do, and where he wants his audience to go with him, regardless of his naysayers. It’s hard to know what music anyone listens to. Danny’s performance experience certainly was in church music, and very limited otherwise. He also was exposed to a lot of Latin music through his wife, and seems to love it; he actually does quite well with that in his live performances. There’s a nice MSMC concert video with Maria Maria and Smooth that mj posted here from last week.
    But those ties don’t mean Danny has never / could never enjoy other kinds of music. Danny chose country music songs throughout his AI experience, starting in Hollywood week before the show even aired (Leeann Womack, I Hope You Dance). Similarly, he chose another country song the first week the AI theme was more open (Rascal Flatts’ What Hurts the Most). Danny seems to have been a casual follower of Rascal Flatts for a while, both as a country act and before that when they were on the midwest Christian music scene.
    There was an interview question where Danny expressed not having a big understanding of what was appropriate to represent the Opry “theme” in one of AI’s corny theme week titles. Ever since, some have claimed Danny must not even know what the Opry is. That seems quite unlikely as he has family in Nashville, visited there numerous times and even recorded there pre-AI, and apparently his parents were country fans.

  134. Jive shouldn’t expect it to become an organic hit…it is their responsibility to promote the single. And aside from getting Kris on a few big radio shows, they really haven’t done a lot to promote it — yet. Let’s see if they try and promote it more when Kris gets back from eating kangaroo and recording stuff in London

  135. I do not believe that this song is a good choice for the US market. It is a song by a band, The Script, that has never had a North American hit ‘” ever though they have been promoted in the US since last March.

    I remember when The Script was a very popular new group with a strong following all around the world. They opened up for Paul McCartney’s shows in New York and hit the top 15 on iTunes in the US with their album. It’s sad to see how far they have fallen in the matter of just two weeks.

    They’re almost as bad off as Z-100! Two weeks ago Z-100 was the most important radio station in the country. Their decision on whether or not to play a song could literally make it or break it. But then they added LLWD to their playlist and they became completely irrelevant.

  136. I hope you are right about this. However, did Allison’s release just pop out from the blue. It could be that Jive is trying to recoup it’s investment in their other artist, Allison. Was this Allison release even scheduled?

    It didn’t “pop up out of the blue”, they aren’t going to release the single Monday, they are just going to air a preview.
    Furthermore that’s typically the timing the label releases the single, 2 months before the album in order for it to grow and sustain the album sales when it comes out.

    I wouldn’t read anything about Allison’s release in regards to Kris.

  137. Danny never said anything about wanting to do country music until after the show ended and he wasn’t signed quickly. He kept talking about wanting to do r&b stuff with a Latin flavor. It wasn’t until July or August that he even started talking about going the country route. And even then he kep saying how he didn’t have a country “twang”

    Maybe now that he’s learned more about country music he has gotten much more into it and is actually enjoying working in the genre. I hope that is the case. But until a couple of months ago, he clearly had no intention of going in that direction…

  138. I wouldn’t read anything about Allison’s release in regards to Kris.

    Thanks for the info. I just wondered.

  139. Snippet of acoustic Life on the Moon from Montreal last night’ ¦

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5×2SvTuJhA

    I love Acoustic Dave!

    (And did he trim his bangs??)

    I wonder if he would be so kind as to sing more songs acoustic next SATURDAY IN PROVIDENCE, RI!!! ;)

    (Not digging the shorter hair, however. I like Scruffy!Cook

  140. Thanks for the links to the David Cook videos from last night. It was interesting to hear the slightly different take on the drumming on Lie, but Jeremy Sadlyforgottenhislastname did a great job. I noticed Monty really stepped up to lead Jeremy into the chorus after the second a capella part, where it’s usually both him and Kyle — yay Monty! I’ve really come to like him a lot.

    I can’t tell from that video if there has been hair cutting or not, but I am definitely on the side of hoping there are at least a couple inches of that raggedy mop in front gone. Poor Dave. His hair is like its own little drama.

    Also thanks for the link to that review in the Montreal paper (blog?). My bad French let me get enough of a gist to understand that the reviewer, despite the inevitable Daughtry comparison (*sigh*), liked what s/he heard and was impressed by the way the band connected with the audience. Also a 90 min. set? Woo! I love the last line: (very loosely translated) “Without a doubt, success is not finished with David Cook.”

    Does anyone know what ‘gum mà ¢chage’ means, though? That one stumped me completely. Mtlfan? You here?

  141. Amazon :
    Adam Bestseller is now no.2 and Streisand is back to No. 1
    2012 is on Bestsellers Music Chart at no. 45.
    Kris is no.95. Can’t find Allison’s.
    Adam’s album is No. 2 next to Streisand on Top Pop songs
    and Adam is no. 1 on the Rock Songs chart .

    How do you find the ranking if they are not in the top 100? I haven’t been able to find out where Allison stands, altho in the Adam, Kris and Allison grouping, she has only been getting 2% of the total sales. Of course, her album hasn’t been up for sale very long. Adam is still holding at 87%.

  142. As for actual headlines, I continue to be completely boggled by the Susan Boyle phenomenon. Am the only person on the planet who couldn’t finish watching the youtube version of her big splash? This is the part of reality television that kept me away from AI for years — the very high potential for those “watch from the hall” moments, where you’re just so flat out embarrassed for all concerned that you have to change the channel or sit with your finger hovering over the mute button to protect you from getting completely squicked out.

    Seeing someone so ordinary being puffed up by what looks to me like a bunch of cynical money grubbers who I am willing to bet spend a fair amount of time laughing at her behind her back is just icky. OTOH, she may be the one who ends up laughing all the way to the bank. Who knows?

  143. Does anyone know what ‘gum mà ¢chage’ means, though?

    Gum chewing. Jeremy Taggert did great, but Kyle is missed– they didn’t do Bar-ba-sol, and that’s a Kyle show case song for sure. That said, I love acoustic DC so much! Can we have Kyle back (and Bar-ba-sol back) AND a couple acoustic songs per show from here on out please ;)?

  144. How do you find the ranking if they are not in the top 100?

    from amazon main page, click on music and next to it type in allison’s name, click go. Then you will see her name at the top of the page after that. Click on it and when her album comes up, scroll down to “Product Details”, and it will show Allison’s ranking.

  145. LOL! Thanks sma11ie. First, I should have guessed, considering who the reviewer was talking about, and second, I was twisting myself in knots trying to figure out “gum.” Didn’t know it was the same word in both languages. *g*

    I don’t think having Kyle back *and* more acoustic songs is too much to ask at all! David could do an acoustic set from “Analog Heart,” for example, and I wouldn’t complain at all. : )

  146. Thank you JudyOhio. Allison’s album is ranked #284. Hopefully when her single comes out, the album will start selling.

  147. Sure hope all is well with Kyle and his family and he’s back soon.
    Right now I’m listening to concert cellcast and hearing Dave sing “Livin on a Prayer”!! Wowza

    By the way, I was annoyed by the gum until I saw or heard Cookie say in an interview that his mouth gets very dry when he’s nervous on stage and the gum helps his throat. Whatever, his voice has held up great on this loong tour so I’ll trust he knows best.

  148. And Adam has tweeted about today’s music video shoot

    It is indeed for TFM — not for his own single

    #Shooting Time For Miracles Music Video!!!! Long day, but we are getting amazing footage!
    25 minutes ago from Echofon

  149. @laurasun tweeted about the TFM video shoot

    started from 8 and ended just now. there were lotta explosions and there was a cute blonde boy extra

    he didnt have a full on beard but he was just wearing a lotta eyeliner and a trenchcoat oh and he had that emo hair

    yeah he had a little facial hair.

    a carcrash, part of the video: http://twitpic.com/k6022

    yeah i heard music but idont remember the lyrics. it sounded SOMEWHAT country rock but not really. [WAT?]

    im searching the song right now cus he kept singing “maybe im…. maybe im … ” or something

    @topazholly90 not a moostach but hair on his chin and stuff like little dots of hair. iforgot what thats called [AGAIN, WAT??? MOOSTACH OIC.]

  150. Pleased that Kris is enjoying his time in London .. although I think he should have gone for the Roast Beef rather than the Kangaroo …lol

    I see Susan Boyle has bombed Simon out at his birthday bash tonight by declining her invitation.

    It was the final round of the X factor tonight with the Judges Houses .. results to be revealed tomorrow.

    I’m dismayed that half of them got this far as there were some truely horrible performances .. the over 25’s are by far the best category IMO.

    My favourite is still Jamie Archer (afro) … he doesn’t have the most powerful or technically perffect voice but I just like his style, presentation and how he connects to the lyrics .. I also love his song choices … he sang one of my favorite Oasis songs tonight “Don’t Cry Your Heart Out”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkvpOWcKNGM

  151. It wasn’t until July or August that he even started talking about going the country route.

    This is actually not true. He mentioned possibly going the country route in June. Although, he was also still very interested in the latin/r&b, too.

    At any rate, what it boils down to is that Danny wasn’t/isn’t interested in old style country music. He always enjoyed the more modern country and that was evidenced by him singing I Hope You Dance, Jesus Take the Wheel, What Hurts the Most, and My Wish. I think Danny likes the message in these types of songs. The only genre you can sing these types of songs in is country and christian.

    If Danny had gone solely the Christian route, it would have been a letdown for many fans, because many of us are not Christian. I would have been happy for him if he were successful in that genre, but I wouldn’t have been too into the music. Going the route that he has chosen, I think that Danny can sing songs that have meaning to him and still often crossover into the Christian genre at times.

  152. I remember when The Script was a very popular new group with a strong following all around the world. They opened up for Paul McCartney’s shows in New York and hit the top 15 on iTunes in the US with their album. It’s sad to see how far they have fallen in the matter of just two weeks.

    LMAO!

    Pleased that Kris is enjoying his time in London .. although I think he should have gone for the Roast Beef rather than the Kangaroo

    I know it’s not fair, but I have visions of Mad Kangaroo Disease now. Yes, I know, the beef is fine in the UK now.

  153. although I think he should have gone for the Roast Beef rather than the Kangaroo

    Next thing you know, he’ll be eating Pooh Bear.

    Beautiful voice, when will the rest of the world get to hear him live and appreciate him. Love Acoustic !!!

    So where in the world are you, Waldo?

  154. PDs do look at the support the song has from the label ‘” and no doubt, in this case, Jive knows exactly what LLWD has done on iTunes ‘” not much. It is clear that LLWD will not become an ‘organic hit’  ‘” and the real question is how much will Jive invest in this single?

    I do agree PDs look for radio support, esp for an initial single. But I still don’t think Jive is going to pull support based on ITunes sales for the first what? 1 Week? Not when he opened on such a weird day with no chance for airplay to build or word to spread, like there was with past contestants. There is no music video yet to even be on YouTube, he’s not done any promo outside the 3 radio interviews right before it drops. Its not even his adds day! Besides, it is Jive, a label known for 1. not spending a lot of cash, 2. being pretty patient with songs, and 3. working the hell out of pop radio.

    I’m not saying Kris’ song will be a big hit, but honestly IMO its just waaayyy to early for the deathknell. Just let the kid breathe. LOL.

    And I know people won’t agree with me on this, but I don’t think Pop is his biggest long term concern anyway. He needs HAC and AAA. He needs this song to go as high on pop as it can go, but his music fits much better on HAC in the long run. That’s the format I would worry about embracing him.

  155. I’m really curious what Matt is doing tonight. He is dropping a lot of hints.

    From @ImMattGiraud:

    Getting on the flight to go to Napa Valley. Never been. Gotta little private show tomorrow. I hear it’s beautiful there.
    9:48 AM Oct 2nd from Echofon

    I guess this would be the harvest moon here in Napa valley.This place is incredible. I’m not leaving. BIG day 2mor! http://twitpic.com/k25wj
    about 19 hours ago from Echofon

    Getting ready for the big performance in Napa!! Met Billy Dean yesterday at lunch and he said he would be here tonight with some friends.
    16 minutes ago from web

    I hear there will be a lot of songwriters there tonight. Some are from Nashville so I better brush up on my country. : D I do a mean Chesney
    13 minutes ago from web

  156. smsutherland: @dannygokey ‘“ Just had late night Denny’s with our good friend Gordon Mote. Said he was working with you. Cool!!

    smsutherland: @dannygokey ‘“ Gordo also said you were one of the nicest guys he’s ever worked with. Great compliment!

    Thanks for posting this informatoin JX223. I usually try to keep up with Danny information on Twitter, but I’ve been sick and actually tested positive for swine flu this morning, and haven’t really been able to keep up with things.

    It’s good to know that Danny is working with good people, and that they appreciate him, too.

    Who is Sutherland, btw?

  157. I think there are several issues going on with Kris’ single. First, I think the fact that the online community picked up on the fact it was a cover before the song was even out of the gates was a big fail on someone’s part. The Script’s youtube versions should have been taken down before the song was released…as a courtesy, if nothing else.

    Second, Kris premiered the song and then he dissapeared. Again a fail. What would it have hurt to delay the release of the song for a few weeks. They could have premiered it right when he got back from London so he could, at least, do some radio promo.

    Third, the cover art is horrible! nuff said on that.

    I also think that Kris fan base doesn’t seem to be really organized. Not saying that is a neccessity, but David A’s fans climbed on the bandwagon for Crush from day one and at least got his single sales moving very fast. My memory fails, but I think it topped the singles sales for a bit on I tunes. I would think that a good fan site would get the word out to insure a 50,000 first week sales. Sure it would slow down and slow down fast but it would at least get some positive reinforcement.

    Hopefully, things will look up when and if :) Kris comes home and starts working on promo….but with the poor results of NoBo and now this for LLWD is a bit concerning…especially when the you tube hits are still pretty low too.

  158. Looks like DC is heading back to the states for some more songwriting sessions during his next few days off. :)

    thedavidcook: # Canada. Thank You. Cannot wait to come back. Seriously. Back to Montreal to fly to LA so I can write some more, with Raine and Chantal
    9 minutes ago from mobile web

  159. Oh no! Not another Cookie concert/cellcast til Friday! Happy writing, DC.

  160. Oh no! Not another Cookie concert/cellcast til Friday! Happy writing, DC.

    Next Friday is my show! (Well, my 4th time seeing him with The Anthemic. But, it’s in my town, just a few minutes away.) I hope he has fantastic writing sessions, rests his voice this week, and has fun with Dublin. The best shows seem to be the ones just before or after a break.

  161. Oh no! Not another Cookie concert/cellcast til Friday! Happy writing, DC.

    I’m getting the shakes already *shudder* And if video doesn’t surface of Livin’ On a Prayer I will hurt someone!

    Why did I foolishly think he would get to relax the next few days off? I’m way too happy though he’s writing with Raine again, and Chantal. Never thought DCTR was perfect but those 3 created magic with Permanent.

  162. As for actual headlines, I continue to be completely boggled by the Susan Boyle phenomenon. Am the only person on the planet who couldn’t finish watching the youtube version of her big splash?

    Oh, you are not alone, MollyAnnMay :-) SuBo baffles me as well. I think her talent is very limited, and mostly based on other superficial factors that have nothing to do with actual singing and stage presence.

    Arkansas isn’t his problem. His two biggest spin counts come from the top 40 station and the hot AC station in Little Rock, each playing his hit single 3 times a day.

    hwc: Where did you see this?

    You can see it here:

    http://addboard.mediabase.com/SongAddHistory.asp?startdate=&ob=5

    The highest spins are in Little Rock. Cincinatti is a close second.

    ETA: try this link instead:

    http://addboard.mediabase.com/SongAddHistory.asp?sngcde=ALLELLWD

  163. aek
    October 3, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    smsutherland: @dannygokey ‘“ Just had late night Denny’s with our good friend Gordon Mote. Said he was working with you. Cool!!

    smsutherland: @dannygokey ‘“ Gordo also said you were one of the nicest guys he’s ever worked with. Great compliment!

    Thanks for posting this informatoin JX223. I usually try to keep up with Danny information on Twitter, but I’ve been sick and actually tested positive for swine flu this morning, and haven’t really been able to keep up with things.

    It’s good to know that Danny is working with good people, and that they appreciate him, too.

    Who is Sutherland, btw?

    aek – take care of your self!!! Sending positive thoughts and wishes your way! Good to hear about Danny.

  164. Oh no! Not another Cookie concert/cellcast til Friday! Happy writing, DC.

    Hopefully, that’ll give plenty of time for whatever’s happening with the Peeks to be resolved so that Kyle will be back on the road with them.

  165. Isn’t today technically a week that the single was released to itunes? Again, IMO, it’s too early to start beating the fail drums. No one releases a single to itunes just 4days after premiere and I think Jive knows the implications very well.

  166. Q3: I do not believe that this song is a good choice for the US market. It is a song by a band, The Script, that has never had a North American hit ‘” ever though they have been promoted in the US since last March.

    BCU79: I remember when The Script was a very popular new group with a strong following all around the world. They opened up for Paul McCartney’s shows in New York and hit the top 15 on iTunes in the US with their album. It’s sad to see how far they have fallen in the matter of just two weeks.

    I don’t think anyone every posted a comment on this site that said that The Script was very popular in the US — they are very successful in the UK and Ireland, but they have failed to have a big hit in the US or Canada.

    I still firmly believe in Kris and think if he had the right song he could easily have a Top 10 hit on the Billboard charts. I just don’t think LLWD was the right song or the right style for Kris. I remain optimistic with Kris’ collaboration with Eg White — very optimistic. The nice thing about digital music distribution is that if there is a great track on an album, it can prove itself on iTunes. I am very hopeful that Kris’ album will have a much better song on it than LLWD.

    I really like Kris, I am a fan of The Script, and I would love a Kris version of one of there better songs — but IMVHO LLWD is not one of The Script’s better songs. I hope the people who love it, enjoy it. I bought it to support Kris, but I really don’t like it. And my opinion hasn’t changed yet. Since it is now down to #65 on iTunes, I don’t think that I am alone in not loving this song.

    IMO Jive blew it and they owe Kris one. So, I sure hope that Jive finds another single on this album and gets behind that one, too. It would be a strange decision, and I am not expecting it, but I really still think Kris deserves a better single than LLWD. YMMV.

  167. aek, I’m so sorry that you’re sick! I wish you a quick recovery. Like you, I don’t listen to religious music usually, but I did enjoy the video posted earlier, especially the “duet” with the audience, that was so beautiful.

  168. BestAI: How do you find the ranking if they are not in the top 100? I haven’t been able to find out where Allison stands, altho in the Adam, Kris and Allison grouping, she has only been getting 2% of the total sales. Of course, her album hasn’t been up for sale very long. Adam is still holding at 87%.

    Go to her album presale page. Here is the current info:

    Audio CD (December 1, 2009)
    Label: Jive
    ASIN: B002QEXN34
    Amazon.com Sales Rank: #241 in Music

    It changes every hour, so here is the link:

    New Release 2009
    Allison Iraheta

    AEK: Get well soon and be careful to take it easy. Thanks for keeps us posted on Danny news!! Really looking forward to his single and album.

  169. IMO Jive blew it and they owe Kris one. So, I sure hope that Jive finds another single on this album and gets behind that one, too. It would be a strange decision, and I am not expecting it, but I really still think Kris deserves a better single than LLWD. YMMV.

    I don’t think Jive blew anything. They’re not that stupid to think giving Kris a cover of a so-so song is going to make him successful. They didn’t care. They have already thrown Kris under the bus and are using him to bring attention to The Script. I think they figured why not get some use out of him before sending him back to Arkansas.

  170. It wasn’t until July or August that he even started talking about going the country route.

    from aek: This is actually not true. He mentioned possibly going the country route in June. Although, he was also still very interested in the latin/r&b, too.

    aek is right on this one. Danny was interviewed in radio and other formats talking about a possible direction of “modern soul country” at least back in June. After meetings with 19 in June, Danny traveled to Nashville (late June or early July, forget exactly) to meet with record labels before the AI Tour began. By at least August, he was in negotiations with two country labels, leading to the deal that was announced in early September after plenty of hints in August what was coming. By most accounts of people who were in a position to know, Sony Nashville had entered the scene by May expressing interest in signing Danny, and it unfolded from there.

    aek, sorry about the swine flu! wish you a speedy recovery.

  171. Another Slezak’s Realite with bonus Kris Allen footage :)

    http://popwatch.ew.com/2009/10/03/realite-kris-allen-dwts-sytycd-runway/

    This Hi-larious!!!! We (hubby and I) don’t watch these shows, but we still love it! Realite that is!

    1) Kris just showed me more of why I’m a fan!
    2) I hope that New Orlean’s guy makes it into the top 20 on SYTYCD!
    3) Kristen should be always be the co host on this, but when she ends it w/ (cough) whore, I’ll take it!

    Slezak and Kristen Rock! :D

  172. I don’t think Jive blew anything. They’re not that stupid to think giving Kris a cover of a so-so song is going to make him successful. They didn’t care. They have already thrown Kris under the bus and are using him to bring attention to The Script. I think they figured why not get some use out of him before sending him back to Arkansas.

    If all else fails, use Kris to bring attention to an obscure band. That must be a big compliment to Kris. But whatever, Kris is used to being thrown under the bus but somehow has emerged as a winner. Don’t count Kris out just yet.

  173. partial acoustic Avalanche from Friday

    Gorgeous! But quite a jolt when it cuts off. Hope there’s a full version coming soon. Here’s acoustic Living on a Prayer from tonite. Also gorgeous.

    I agree Kyle is missed, but I so hope David keeps some acoustic songs in the setlist even when he comes back.

  174. They have already thrown Kris under the bus and are using him to bring attention to The Script.

    The Script are on RCA, Kris is on Jive. Different labels. Jive doesn’t stand to gain anything by throwing Kris under the bus. They are, in fact, paying for expensive things like a week in London, and getting him cowrites with top-charting songwriters. How does that equate to throwing him under the bus? Surely they expect him to sell enough to recoup those expenses.

    Careers are not made or broken in the first week that a single is out. It was the same last year- the Davids did very little promo until a few weeks before their albums came out. Give them a chance to finish the album before declaring it a failure, for heaven’s sake!

    I’m having such deja vu from last year at this time, when LO and David Cook were being declared failures daily. Does this happen every year, or only since Taylor?

  175. richie10: I don’t think Jive blew anything. They’re not that stupid to think giving Kris a cover of a so-so song is going to make him successful. They didn’t care. They have already thrown Kris under the bus and are using him to bring attention to The Script. I think they figured why not get some use out of him before sending him back to Arkansas.

    Maybe they don’t believe in Kris but I still do. And I don’t buy the “it’s about promoting The Script” theory.

    1. Jive executives potentially get big bonuses based on Zomba Label Group performance and The Script is signed to RCA Label Group/Phonogenic (UK). Both are part of Sony BMG, but they are not the same business unit.

    2. If the great plan was to screw Kris and promote the Script, it’s not working. “The Script” still aren’t selling much in the US or Canada. They released “Breakeven” for radio adds on Tuesday — and it isn’t getting much radio airplay.

    I continued to believe that Jive/19R underestimated Kris fans. They didn’t think that Kris fans would notice that it was a cover/clone of a mediocre song and they thought because Kris is popular, his fans would buy anything. I think they blew it and I wish that Kris’ media fans would call them on it and pressure them to release a better Kris single.

    happygolucky: But whatever, Kris is used to being thrown under the bus but somehow has emerged as a winner. Don’t count Kris out just yet.

    I agree. And I will continue to push for a second album single that is worthy of Kris’ talent. But even if Jive does a “Taylor” to Kris, I know he will be successful someday — with or without Jive.

  176. Here’s acoustic Living on a Prayer from tonite. Also gorgeous.

    I agree Kyle is missed, but I so hope David keeps some acoustic songs in the setlist even when he comes back.

    Wow, loved that Living on a Prayer video – thank you!

  177. Like this tweet from David Cook:

    @thedavidcook: Canada. Thank You. Cannot wait to come back. Seriously. Back to Montreal to fly to LA so I can write some more, with Raine and Chantal

    They made magic with Permanent — can’t wait to see what they come up with next. And still makes me happy that he gets to cowrite and be friends with his idol :)

  178. Thanks so much everyone for all the warm wishes….I appreciate it!

    aek, I’m so sorry that you’re sick! I wish you a quick recovery. Like you, I don’t listen to religious music usually, but I did enjoy the video posted earlier, especially the ‘duet’  with the audience, that was so beautiful.

    Josie, I agree about the video that was posted earlier. Danny sang that song beautifully, and he really surprises me with his ability to connect with the audience. It really was beautiful.

  179. Q3 and happygolucky

    happygolucky: But whatever, Kris is used to being thrown under the bus but somehow has emerged as a winner. Don’t count Kris out just yet.

    Q3: I agree. And I will continue to push for a second album single that is worthy of Kris’ talent. But even if Jive does a ‘Taylor’  to Kris, I know he will be successful someday ‘” with or without Jive.

    I don’t usually post here but I THANK YOU so much for saying that as I’m totally with you two!

  180. partial acoustic Avalanche from Friday

    Here’s acoustic Living on a Prayer from tonite.

    Thanks for bringing the links here. Both are great, but, given the choice between hearing David sing a cover and hearing him sing something he’s written, there’s no contest. I’ll take his songs over a cover every time. Especially a cover of a song that I’m still sick of from the 80s!

  181. Here’s acoustic Living on a Prayer from tonite. Also gorgeous.

    Last night acoustic Avalanche, tonight this and he signed autographs hanging out of his bus window for 20 minutes. Sigh. He really loved Canada. Lucky beeyotches.

  182. I’m having such deja vu from last year at this time, when LO and David Cook were being declared failures daily. Does this happen every year, or only since Taylor?

    I’m with you CathyMK. Seems like this happens when the “chosen one” doesn’t win. David Cook proved he was the rightful winner. Hope Kris can to.

  183. CathyMK: Careers are not made or broken in the first week that a single is out. It was the same last year- the Davids did very little promo until a few weeks before their albums came out. Give them a chance to finish the album before declaring it a failure, for heaven’s sake!

    I’m having such deja vu from last year at this time, when LO and David Cook were being declared failures daily. Does this happen every year, or only since Taylor?

    CathyMK, I can see some similarities because there seems to be a gap between our expections for Idols and the reality of their actual sales for the past few years. But I don’t think that LO and LLWD sales preformance have much in common.

    LO had it’s biggest sales week it’s debut week. “Light On” sold 109,000 digital downloads in its first sale week and debutted at #17 the Billboard Hot 100 before it got major radio airplay.

    9/23/09 – LO available for radio airplay
    9/30/09 – released iTunes and Amazon
    10/7/09 – peak at #17 Billboard Hot 100
    10/13/09 – officially went for adds on Mainstream Top 40, AC, and Rock radio

    And, while the single continued to sell at a steady pace, it never beat the first week’s sales.

    LLWD was released on a Friday and for it’s 4-day first week of sales it hit #93 on the Billboard Hot 100. And it’s iTunes performance hasn’t improved — since this Tuesday, it has gone from #33 to #65 (current rank).

    Finally, I have never lost faith in Kris or in his talent — I have most certainly never labeled Kris a failure. And I do not think that LLWD is not selling because Kris doesn’t have a lot of fans. I think LLWD is not selling because it is a mediocre song and the musical style isn’t what sells in the US. And, frankly, I’m surprised that most Kris fans aren’t irate about the fact that Jive saddled Kris with this as his “big single”.

  184. Tinawina, I appreciate your perspective on things since you’ve seen what happens post idol for several yrs.

    Q3, I appreciate your faith in Kris! Thank you! This is especially nice coming from an Adam fan. :)

    I do have to say I don’t think we can count LLYD out yet. The song, to me, is strong! It’s one of the best AI singles that has come out. YMMV. However, I believe truly this. I believe it can grow, I really do!

    TBH, this is not my type of music, but the lyrics are good, imo, and I like the music. Kris sounds really good on this song. After my fav came out with LO as his first single last yr., this song rocks in comparison. I was pleasantly surprised by how much I truly loved it!

    If Jive’s, (or better yet 19’s), intentions were to throw Kris under the bus, they have failed. That’s all.

  185. If all else fails, use Kris to bring attention to an obscure band. That must be a big compliment to Kris. But whatever, Kris is used to being thrown under the bus but somehow has emerged as a winner. Don’t count Kris out just yet.

    Why is Kris used to being thrown under the bus, have I missed something?

    I think it is way too soon to be worrying about Kris. In retrospect he really hasn’t done that much promotion for his single. Wait till he makes the rounds of all the talk shows, then if his sales don’t pick up, start worrying.

  186. Have you David Cook fans out there seen this video? I was clickity clicking around on You Tube (because, you know, that’s what I do – clickity click) and found this little montage of all of his AI performances. Maybe my two upcoming shows made me nostalgic, hee!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZaXrUATJAs&feature=player_embedded

    So there’s your AI-model-TWIK buried in there… and here’s one from Friday night… he looks purty in a black t-shirt.

    http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=140755323334&oid=18915068178

  187. Kris is not good at selling himself. But I am convinced that Kris has a lot of fans and that he won Idol with a lot of voters — not just a lot of votes. However, I don’t know if anyone could make LLWD a hit. I am also convinced that if Kris had a good single, it would be a hit.

    And, yes, Kris’ album is at #106 on Amazon’s music chart. For comparison, David Cook album Amazon presale mosted was between #30 and #45 music this time last year, then he went up to the teens after Cook’s November SNL performance. When the album was released, Cook hit #1 again. (Cook was #1 on Amazon at the end of May-early June for I believe 3-1/2 days (?). Someone who follows Cook closely would know for sure.)

    The most unusual stat about Kris’ Amazon album presale is what people who view Kris Allen New Release CD page are buying:

    What Do Customers Ultimately Buy After Viewing This Item?
    56% buy Adam Lambert “New Release 2009”
    $9.99

    35% buy the item featured on this page:
    Kris Allen “New Release 2009” $13.98

    4% buy David Archuleta “Christmas From The Heart” $9.99
    3% buy Susan Boyle “I Dreamed A Dream” $9.99

    For comparison, here are the stats for Adam’s Amazon presale:

    What Do Customers Ultimately Buy After Viewing This Item?
    96% buy the item featured on this page:
    Adam Lambert New Release 2009 $9.99

    1% buy David Archuleta “Christmas From The Heart” $9.99
    1% buy Barbra Streisand “Love is the Answer” $9.99
    1% buy Michael Bubl “Crazy Love” $9.99

  188. cookcricket: Q3, I appreciate your faith in Kris! Thank you! This is especially nice coming from an Adam fan.

    Yes, I am an OTT Adam fan, but I am also a fan of the whole top 5 this year. And I want them all to succeed. And, I really think that Kris will be successful. I don’t see any busses — I just think Jive made a mistake — and that is a very different thing.

    Plus, I sure hope someone signs Matt soon!!

  189. More tweets from Aimee about Adam (I didn’t see them posted anywhere).

    AimeeMayo
    @jazzy_chey It sounds like A Huge hit. Our kids LOVE it!!! They are always are most harsh critics. It is both rock & pop.about 3 hours ago from Twitterena

    @jazzy_chey It is upbeat and it is incredible. I can’t even believe how much I love it!!! Adam sounds so sexy on it- I’m n love w/ his vocalabout 3 hours ago from Twitterena

  190. There is one really interesting discussion on Amazon.com’s Adam New Release album page titled: “Anyone here NOT from an Adam fan board?” It is 9 hours old and already has 30 comments from people who not only aren’t from fansites, but most don’t even know what a “fan board” is. For the most part they’re Adam fans who saw the news reports about Adam’s album being on Amazon.

    And yes, there are a few discussions filled with Adam fangroup members’ comments, too. But that isn’t everyone who is commenting on Amazon.

  191. springboard: Anyone interested in Simon Cowell’s birthday bash? Amongst the guests: Ryan Seacrest, Paula Abdul, Kara Dioguardi, Randy Jackson, Simon Fuller and Nigel Lythgoe
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1217977/What-swellegant-Cowell-egant-party-Simon-celebrates-50th-birthday-1m-bash.html

    What kind of a person throws a party like this for themselves?

    Cowell had spared no expense on ‘the party of the decade’ for 400 guests at Wrotham Park, a stately manor in Barnet, Hertfordshire.
    The imposing building was bathed in blue light for the occasion ‘“ with a giant image of Cowell projected on to its historic facade.

    Inside, pre-recorded birthday wishes from the likes of the Beckhams and Jennifer Aniston were displayed on giant screens ‘“ even in the toilets.

    Which, incidentally, also contained a giant tank full of mini-sharks.
    The venue, a palladian mansion set in 2,500 acres, is a 30-minute drive from Central London and was lit with hundreds of scented candles.

  192. I think the apt comparator for LLYD is Tattoo. That song struggled and struggled and struggled and then finally broke through and became a hit. (And wow, did that song SUCK oversized donkey balls. By comparison, LLYD is like the Beatles’ Yesterday.) Anyway, just saying that first week sales of a first single are one indication of likelihood of success of a new artist, but it’s hardly conclusive as to what a song is going to do in the longer term and how that’s going to shape/impact Kris’ career.

  193. I’d agree that the appropriate comparator to LLYD is Tattoo. I’d also venture to say that, from my viewpoint at least, Jordin didn’t really go out there and sell herself. Maybe Kris will get lucky like Jordin did and open for somebody really popular for his first tour. He’s my favorite from Season 8 (not by much), but I don’t see him headlining tours. I reserve the right to change my mind on that until after I hear his album.

    Q3
    October 4, 2009 at 3:19 am

    What kind of a person throws a party like this for themselves?

    While I have no experience either throwing or attending one of these pretentious extravaganzas, I don’t think it’s all that uncommon when you have shitloads of money.

    And now I can sleep…after 5:00 here. Thanks for the delectable Cook videos. Comparing that acoustic Living on a Prayer with the one in Blue Springs during his homecoming last year, he does sound a bit hoarse. I went back and listened to the Blue Springs (because I missed the 80’s…wasn’t listening to mainstream music at all so know Bon Jovi from Bon Ami), and I could never get sick of David singing this.

  194. In the October 2 thread, but the Guardian column on Simon Cowell’s then upcoming birthday gala was one of the meane most hilarious I have ever read!

    The comments were mighty fine, too! Oh, Simon, King of Philistines!

  195. What kind of a person throws a party like this for themselves?

    Ummmmm, the word “jackass” springs to mind, but strangely, the attendees, except for the work-related-forced-to attend-ones, strike
    me as bigger idgets than the birthday boy. A Dorothy Parker quote I read this morning sums it up:

    If you want to know what God thinks of money, just look at the people he gave it to.

  196. LLYD is doing okay getting radio play so far. Looks like Z100 is giving it good support. But I don’t think it will do as well as Tattoo. That song was more suited to Top 40 radio and I think LLYD will do better on HAC.
    That’s where Cook’s songs did well.

    The first week’s sales always indicate the size of the devoted Idol fanbase. iTunes sales this week show Kris not putting up the big numbers.

    I don’t think anyone was predicting a flop for Cook. The problem with LO was that it never became a big Top 40 hit. To become a multi plat artist you need big radio hits that cross genres.

    However Cook always had a big supportive Idol fan base. Kris obviously doesn’t have that so he REALLY needs his single to be a big hit.

  197. Looks like Z100 is giving it good support. But I don’t think it will do as well as Tattoo. That song was more suited to Top 40 radio and I think LLYD will do better on HAC.

    I think Kris is in a difficult genre to begin with, imo Alison will have it much easier with her (electronic) rock/pop. Would it be right to say that the big acoustic bands on top 40 are mraz, john major, king of leon, the fray and paramore?

    KOL, the fray and paramore all have a much rawer sound than Kris has ever had, more alt rock and edgy. Infusing a more alt rock sound seem to be impossible for an AI alum that needs to debute fast (see Cook and Daughtry). John Mayer and Mraz are incredible talented musicians, in a league where I don’t think Kris is yet.

  198. Regarding the list, “Most successful ‘Idol’ contestants, ” I pretty much agree with the list but not the order. Elliott should be lower on the list, and Diana should be higher – much higher.

    I don’t get involved in fan wars much, but I agree Adam and Kris have yet to prove themselves. I am sure they will be there by this time next year. I would love to see Jason and Anthony also appear on the list.

    Interesting perspective, as I would not have put Jennifer Hudson at #1.

  199. And Neal’s guitar solo is captured in that vid and it is amazing (as usual for Neal)!

  200. Gorgeous! But quite a jolt when it cuts off. Hope there’s a full version coming soon. Here’s acoustic Living on a Prayer from tonite. Also gorgeous.

    This is a much better video of Cook doing a full version of Livin’ on the Prayer acoustically. From his homecoming in 2008.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzFiNyr7xb4

    Oops, I didn’t realize someone had already posted this. Sorry for the repetition.

  201. “He’s enthused about Mark Bright because that is who is producing him and he’s been told the guy is good. It’s not like Danny knew him from a hole in the wall before 19 told him to sign with RCA Nashville.”

    Lurking; but just had to comment on this; not true.
    Mark Bright approached Danny early on -he wanted him for his own record label. Danny was actually talking to 3 labels at one time.
    Danny expressed interest in an interview about working with Mark Bright a good month before even signing. He loves Rascall Flatts and Carrie Underwood, so I’m sure he knew who Mark Bright (produced them) was even before Mark approached him.
    And I don’t think Danny signed with Sony because 19 told him to; there were 2 labels bidding for him (Mark Bright’s label presumably one) in August.
    Kudos to Danny for landing the big contract with RCA Nashville and getting Mark Bright as his producer like he wanted. Quite the feat, IMO.
    Taking your time to make a business decision is sometimes the smart thing to do.

  202. And I don’t think Danny signed with Sony because 19 told him to; there were 2 labels bidding for him (Mark Bright’s label presumably one) in August.
    Kudos to Danny for landing the big contract with RCA Nashville and getting Mark Bright as his producer like he wanted. Quite the feat, IMO.
    Taking your time to make a business decision is sometimes the smart thing to do.

    I’m not sure if we’ll ever get the whole picture but I tend to think there were two different mainstream country labels negotiating for Danny, as Danny said he was not inclined to sign with Mark’s company, Word, because he wanted a mainstream platform and Word is known for CCM/gospel. He said that he and Mark had discussed finding an “alternate” arrangement to work together, as in fact has become the case. Danny also spoke about meeting with multiple “big labels,” which (no offense meant to them) may not describe Word.

    It’s not too clear what two companies were negotiating in August. Depending on how things work across the four country labels under Sony Nashville, it may be that Danny met with more than one and contract discussions were opened with two–possibly Arista (Carrie’s label) and RCA Nashville, for example. Or it could have been someone totally outside Sony Nashville, such as Warner which is the parent company over Word but has separate arms for mainstream country.

    Whatever the case, it all seems to be coming together really well for Danny thus far. He’s getting both the major mainstream label support and the top producer he wanted.

  203. saga: Would it be right to say that the big acoustic bands on top 40 are mraz, john major, king of leon, the fray and paramore?

    No, because Kings of Leon, Paramore, and for the most part John Mayer are not acoustic bands. Not so sure about Jason Mraz and the Fray because I don’t know their music so well — they might be primarily or wholly acoustic (allowing for electric bass, though, given that it’s very often used in otherwise acoustic bands).

  204. I’m with you CathyMK. Seems like this happens when the ‘chosen one’  doesn’t win. David Cook proved he was the rightful winner. Hope Kris can to.

    How did Cook prove himself to be the “rightful” winner? By selling more records? That doesn’t prove much, I don’t see why people still insist on all that “rightful” winner stuff. If anything David A’s fans can still make a case as to why he should have been the winner. After a year I would have thought that all the “rightful” winner stuff would be over. Let them have their careers.

  205. Furthermore, I don’t think you can fairly say that David A was the “chosen one” by the time the season ended. TPTB had completely shifted their focus to Cook and clearly wanted him to win.

  206. VAidolFan09: How did Cook prove himself to be the ‘rightful’  winner?

    By winning. The rightful winner wins every year, because the rightful winner is whoever gets the most votes (assuming there’s no vote fraud/irregularity). It’s the outcome that the people casting the majority of the votes wanted.

    I realize that’s not what the original poster meant, but it’s the answer.

    Furthermore, I don’t think you can fairly say that David A was the ‘chosen one’  by the time the season ended. TPTB had completely shifted their focus to Cook and clearly wanted him to win.

    Not at all. I don’t think it’s worth the time to cite chapter and verse why Cook was not the chosen one by the end — others can jump in and do that if they’re still reading and so inclined — but the chapter and verse is there for the citing.

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