Idol Headlines for 01/15/10

What Simon Cowell gave up for ‘X Factor’

Simon Cowell turned down $100 million to stay at “American Idol, ” a source told Page Six, and he now wants to hire music mogul Tommy Mottola as a judge on his new show, “The X Factor.”

But Cowell insists there are no hard feelings over his leaving to bring over his British smash-hit, “X Factor” in 2011. He told us, “If I thought it would lead to the death of ‘Idol, ‘ I genuinely wouldn’t have done it. We are sure that ‘Idol’ will continue successfully.

“Everyone seemed quite cool about it, ” Cowell said.

NY Post

Simon Fuller launches new TV boyband search

Music mogul Simon Fuller has teamed up with celebrity blogger Perez Hilton to create a new TV boyband.

The former Spice Girls manager wants the new show, titled Boy Band, to find a group “for the next generation”.

In a post on his website, Hilton said: “We are looking for the best, brightest and boldest!”

Fuller and Hilton will be joined by pop music tour director Jamie King, who was behind Britney Spear’s 2009 Circus Tour and Madonna’s Sticky and Sweet tour.

Potential boyband stars aged between 13 and 21 are asked to upload their audition tapes to the show’s website.

BBC

‘American Idol’: Simon Fuller moves on, Nigel Lythgoe gets a title

Simon Fuller, who created the “Idol” format, is leaving 19 Entertainment (which produces the series) to start his own company. Former “Idol” executive producer and current “So You Think You Can Dance” judge/producer Nigel Lythgoe has been named chairman of BAFTA’s L.A. branch.

Fuller had mounted an effort to buy 19’s parent company, CKX, but instead opted to break off. He’ll still consult with CKX, which has an option to invest in the new venture.

Zap2it

Adam Lambert Dreams of Acting on ‘Gossip Girl, ‘ ‘True Blood’

Listen up, Chace Crawford: You hold Adam Lambert’s happiness in your hands. Last season’s ‘American Idol’ runner-up tells PopEater that he wants to appear on ‘Gossip Girl, ‘ not wholly due to, but partially because of, a little crush. “As long as I can do a scene opposite Chace Crawford, I’d be happy, ” he says. “I just want a couple moments where I can just look and be like, ‘Hmmmm.’ Just some eye contact and I’ll be really happy.”

While you won’t be able to catch him on these shows just yet, come back to AOL Music on January 28 to watch Adam Lambert’s AOL Sessions.

Popeater

More Idol Headlines after the JUMP…

Elton John Has No ‘Idol’ Time

No matter that Elton John is perfect for taking Simon Cowell’s bitchy British seat on “American Idol” — we’re told the Rocket Man will not be landing an “Idol” contract.

We’re told Elton’s schedule is way too packed to bash amateur singers — so a golden ticket to Hollywood is out of the question.

TMZ

Can Idol Still Churn Out Stars? Time Will Tell

With a rush of publicity over the departure of Simon Cowell, American Idol returned this week for a ninth season, promising once again to introduce the next batch of fresh-faced pop stars.

But when it comes to how well those winners and finalists will ultimately fare in the music marketplace, stardom is far from a sure thing, as sales figures from Nielsen SoundScan show.

NY Times

Idol’s Skiiboski — Dirtiest Ice Cream Man Ever

Before the rambling, the hair carving and the misspelled shirts, Skiiboski from last night’s “American Idol” was trying to make a name for himself by turning the skill set of an ice cream man into a giant scoop of sexual innuendo.

Don’t worry folks, you’ll see him again in Hollywood … if only briefly.

TMZ

Skiiboski from ‘Idol’ — The Many Mug Shots

Skiiboski from last night’s “American Idol” is used to being in front of judges — because the guy has been arrested as many times as DMX … almost.

TMZ has obtained Antonio “Skiiboski” Wheeler’s five mug shots from his arrests in Florida — which according to Skiiboski’s inmate history report from the Orange County Corrections Department, occurred between March of 2005 and December of 2009.

TMZ

Civil rights veteran becomes Internet sensation

For Platt, the song was just another one of his causes. He said Thursday that he and his civil rights colleagues sacrificed too much for today’s youth to walk around with sagging pants.

Platt – his black jeans securely fastened – proudly showed off black and white photographs of himself alongside civil rights icons Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. and Congressman John Lewis, and pointed to plaques from city and state officials recognizing his social justice work as a dedicated foot soldier with the Southern Christian Leadership Conference and Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee.

Platt, who worked to elect President Barack Obama, is still an activist, and can frequently be seen in downtown Atlanta holding signs protesting foreclosures, war, violence, racism and “any wicked things that take place.”

Washington Post

‘American Idol’ Hopeful Jermaine Sellers Began Recording At Age 14

Toward the end of Wednesday night’s “American Idol, ” Randy Jackson called it: Self-described “church boy” Jermaine Sellers was the biggest talent the judges had encountered so far in season nine.

Though the “Idol” hopeful has only just come to the public’s attention after his breakout appearance on Wednesday’s show, Sellers has been quietly recording music since his early teenage years. He makes his living as a church singer and maintains a MySpace page with a selection of original R&B tunes.

MTV

Family excited to watch Winner native Mallorie Haley perform on ‘American Idol’

Her fans have seen Winner native Mallorie Haley sing for area events, then open for concerts across the nation and now audition on national television.

On Wednesday night, the nation saw the 20-year-old singer, now living in Nashville, make it through an important round of the “American Idol” TV singing auditions during the show’s ninth season premiere.

It was an exciting night Wednesday in the Haley household in rural Winner as friends and family gathered to see whether the 20-year-old performer would be shown singing her way to the show’s next level in Hollywood.

Argus Leader

OK!’s Idol Round Table: Former Finalists Dish on Week 1

Of the more than a million people across the country who have auditioned for American Idol, only a few dozen know what it’s truly like to live the Idol life. And that’s why OKmagazine.com brings you Idol Round Table, where former finalists Mikalah Gordon, Anoop Desai, Diana DeGarmo and Megan Joy — and some special guests — will share their insider insights on the new season.

This week, the Round Table discusses early front-runners, Paula Abdul’s absence and whether or not AI can survive the departure of Simon Cowell.

OK

Adam Lambert Shows Off His Many Sides In ‘Whataya Want From Me’ Video

That seems to be the message behind the music video for Lambert’s “Whataya Want From Me, ” which premiered on VH1 on Friday morning (January 15).

The brand-new clip showcases the glam rocker in a sparse industrial apartment. But instead of the “glittery alien from Planet Fierce” persona we’ve come to expect from the showman, we’re seeing an emotionally raw and exhausted man, uncomfortable in a cold, new-looking home and torn between the different roles he’s forced to play in his very public life.

MTV

‘American Idol’: Kara DioGuardi on ‘Pants on the Ground, ‘ Ellen’s entrance and Simon’s exit

Hollywood Week is happening right now. How’s it going with Ellen so far?

It’s been a really easy adjustment. Ellen has a natural ability for judging. She can be very heartwarming and at times critical and she’s so funny, but she knows a lot about music. I was very impressed with her, she knows more than people think. I think she’s going to be a fantastic judge. She’ll comment on someone’s stage presence or that they should’ve done more with the melody or something about their guitar. I’m very, very impressed with her.

Can you comment on the talent? Drop any names?

[laughs] I can’t name any names, but I can tell you that the women are competing for the title of “American Idol” this year. Last year there was a deficit of really good women, but there’s a lot more of them this year that are really strong. It could be the Year of the Woman. Girl Idol.

Zaptoit.com

American Idol: Taylor Hicks on Ellen, Simon and the New Season

FOUR YEARS AGO, Taylor Hicks rode a wave of support from a dedicated group of fans to a win in a competitive “American Idol” season that included contenders like Katharine McPhee, Elliott Yamin, Chris Daughtry and Kellie Pickler, who’ve all gone on to some measure of professional success.

He released his second album last March, and he’s currently touring the country as the Teen Angel in a national production of the musical “Grease.”

I talked with the Soul Patrol sovereign ahead of “Grease’s” stop at D.C.’s National Theatre in February. I’ll have more on that in a couple of weeks. But here are some of Hicks’ thoughts on “Idol’s” recent judging changes and an activity contestants should steer clear of during the show’s run.

Express Night Out

‘Idol’ singer Anoop Desai making album in Nashville

I’ve heard from a few of you that you spotted Anoop Desai at the Red Door in Midtown recently, and I’ve since learned from several Anoop Snoops that he’s making a pop album here in Nashville.

Anoop is collaborating with, among others, Nashville pop singer Josh Hoge, who has worked with several American Idol alums, including Elliot Yamin (Wait for You).

Anoop and Josh did two songs together “in the Ne-Yo vibe, ” Josh says.

Anoop will come back to Nashville to finish the album, which should be out this spring.

Music City TV

USO Entertainer Kellie Pickler Upstaged in Persian Gulf

Hey, isn’t Kellie Pickler supposed to be the one entertaining the troops? The country crooner was slightly upstaged by Spc. Zacari Pytleski, who joined her onstage during her song “Red High Heels” on Wednesday in the Persian Gulf.

Kellie, along with Jamey Johnson and Randy Houser kicked off 2010 with the USO Tour to the Persian Gulf to bring country music to the front lines. The trio will spend time with different combat outposts in the area, perform and pose for photos with the troops. This is Kellie’s third USO/Armed Forces Entertainment tour.

OK Magazine

Katharine McPhee Turns Singer-Songwriter for CD

In the relatively short time Katharine McPhee has been on the scene she’s had a variety of different personas.

Katharine McPhee, the fresh-faced “American Idol” runner-up of 2006 with the big voice. The diva with the long auburn locks and gowns to match. The pop singer. And, now, the blonde folky recording artist who tells stories through her songs with her new album, “Unbroken, ” in stores now. The singer says this record is a true representation of who she is.

The 25-year-old McPhee talked recently about her new music, surviving the “Idol” ride and finding her voice.

ABC News

Fantasia Barrino: ‘For Real’ Reality Show Is a Hit for VH1

The Jan. 11 premiere of ‘American Idol’ winner Fantasia Barrino’s new reality show, ‘Fantasia For Real, ‘ debuted strong numbers for VH1.

According to a network spokesperson, the “docu-series” scored a 1.4 P18-49 rating and brought in 2.3 million total viewers. It was also the #2 non-sports original cable series for the day.

BV Newswire

Jason Castro: The Reality Rocks Interview, Pt. 1

No matter what he accomplishes later in life, season 7 American Idol fourth runner-up Jason Castro will go down in history (and possibly in Trivial Pursuit: The American Idol Edition) as the first semi-finalist to perform with a musical instrument on the show. And that’s quite an accomplishment in and of itself. Until season 7, AI contestants were not allowed to play instruments, so the majority of competitors fells squarely into Mariah/Celine/Whitney diva territory. But in season 7, singer-songwriter musician types like Jason Castro, Brooke White, and David Cook changed the Idol game–bringing a new credibility to the show, broadening its fanbase and genre span, and paving the way for the likes of season 8’s Kris Allen and Matt Giraud. In many ways, Jason Castro was an Idol pioneer.

Yahoo

‘Idol’ Creator to Staff: Simon’s Knockin’ Us Off

The guy who created “American Idol
” wrote a letter to his AI staff announcing Simon Cowell’s departure from the show — but in between compliments, Simon Fuller slipped in an ego shot at his number one judge.

In the letter, distributed on the same day Cowell made his big announcement, Fuller congratulated Simon for moving on to his new show “The X Factor” — but reminded everyone that it will be “in the same vein as ‘Idol.'”

Translation — he’s knockin’ us off.

TMZ

ETA:

Elliott Yamin goes from ‘American Idol’ to real world

“I’ll be back this year for (the charity special) “Idol Gives Back” on the ground in Angola, ” Yamin says. He and Fantasia Barrino distributed malaria nets there in 2008 as part of the “Idol Gives Back” team.

Yamin’s career is in his own hands now, and most of the time, he’s focused on spreading the word about his latest disc, “Fight for Love, ” a collection of emotional pop and R&B songs.

“It’s about being in and out of love, living without love, fighting for love, ” he says. “The album takes you on a journey through the ups and downs of love.”

AL.com

Deets on Clay Aiken’s New Album

We have a feeling he’s leaning towards pleasing an older demographic…

Clay Aiken’s upcoming album on his new record label Decca Records is set to be released this coming summer.

He’s not going in the pop music direction but taking on romantic classic songs from the ’50s and ’60s. Tracks include “Moon River, ” “What Kind Of Fool Am I?, ” “Mack the Knife, ” and “Can’t Take My Eyes Off You.”

Perez Hilton

Adam Lambert’s ‘Whataya Want From Me’ video: Whataya think of it?

It’s probably folly to try to peek into the mind of an artist by watching one of his music videos, and yet the lovely new clip for Adam Lambert’s “Whataya Want From Me” plays out in such a personal-yet-enigmatic way, it’s hard not to imagine that the American Idol season 8 runner-up is feeling a little overwhelmed by all the change that’s come to his life in the last 12 months. Think about it: A little less than a year ago — Jan. 20, 2009, to be exact — Lambert caught our attention singing “Bohemian Rhapsody” during Idol’s San Francisco audition telecast. (If you’re a nostalgic sort, check out the recap of that episode here.) Since then, the guy has been a magnet for adulation, hateration, and controversy. His sexual orientation got discussed pretty much everywhere — even on The O’Reilly Factor! — before he came out as gay on the cover of Rolling Stone last summer. He got struck by flying sex toys on the subsequent Idols Live Tour. This fall, he was dissed by Out magazine for not being a hard-charging poster boy for the gay rights movement — at the exact same time he appeared on that magazine’s cover. And his sexually charged performance at the American Music Awards in November practically caused ABC to remove the first letter from its own corporate logo, paint it crimson red, and slap it on Adam’s chest. Lately, he’s had to ask his most rabid fans to dial back on organized request-line campaigns that have threatened to harm his relationship with radio.

Entertainment Weekly

ETAA:

Katharine McPhee Doesn’t Regret Eating Disorder Revelation

More than three years after Katharine McPhee went public with her struggle with bulimia, the former ‘American Idol’ runner-up tells PopEater she has no regrets about being so open, especially if word of how she overcame her battle could help others who suffer from eating disorders.

“They always say awareness is the number one thing to help other people, and it was sort of my story about how ‘Idol’ really gave me that step up to sort of overcome eating issues, ” Mcphee says. “It doesn’t bother me because it’s like a different person, like that person didn’t even exist anymore. So, no, I don’t have any regrets.”

Popeater

Kara changes ‘Idol’ look

“American Idol” judge Kara DioGuardi says she’s made a conscious decision to change her on-air look this season.

“I’m not sure I liked all my hairstyles or my makeup or my clothes [last season] — I’d look at it and go, ‘Oh my God, ’ ” DioGuardi said yesterday.

“I’m still experimenting and still getting it together, because I’d say the way I look in real life is not the way I look on the show, ” she said.

“Part of it is that I’m somebody who doesn’t wear a lot of makeup or do a lot with my hair . . . so it was hard to see myself all dolled up.

“I’m still making changes, ” she said. “I’m definitely trying to go more to a natural style, more rock-glam — just something that feels more like me.

New York Post

GREASE National Tour Offers BC/EFA Concert in St. Louis, 1/18

The National Touring Cast of GREASE will offer a special concert cabaret to benefit Broadway Cares/Equity Fights Aids and Saint Louis Effort for AIDS. The concert, “One Night Only: a cabaret with the Broadway cast of GREASE” will take place at The Fox Hole in St. Louis on January 18th at 7:30pm. Select cast members will perform a series of songs for the benefit.

“American Idol” Season Five winner Taylor Hicks stars as “Teen Angel” in the current National Tour of GREASE. Taylor Hicks made his debut on Broadway in the role. He achieved widespread fame in 2006 as a contestant on the hugely successful FOX singing competition “American Idol.”

Broadway World

Mercado embraces role in fresh take on ‘Dreamgirls’

Syesha Mercado can relate in a personal way to Deena Jones, the 1960s girl-group singer she plays in the national touring company of “Dreamgirls, ” coming to the Cadillac Palace Theatre on Tuesday. Beautiful, hard-working and ambitious, Mercado, who was the top female finisher in the seventh season of “American Idol, ” has been working toward being a star since she was a child.

“For me, Deena represents a lot of things, ” Mercado said in a recent phone interview. “The messages of ‘Dreamgirls’ transcend their time. It’s not just a story of African-Americans trying to get their music out; it’s also about the relationships you have with your family, and the message that if you dream — and if you work at achieving that dream — it’s going to happen for you.”

Sun Times

Even More:

Adam Lambert Says Idol Will Miss Simon Cowell

“The audience will definitely miss Simon, ” Lambert, 27, says. “The contestants will miss out on, like, really honest criticism. Sometimes it can be a little personal, and I know other contestants took it to heart sometimes and got really stressed out about what he would say. [But] I think that that’s important to making you a better performer … You’ve got to hear the good and the bad.”

But American Idol can survive without Cowell, according to Lambert, because the show isn’t about the cheeky British judge. “Ultimately, after the first couple weeks of auditions, the audience tunes in every week for the contestants, ” says Lambert, who performs his current song, “Whataya Want From Me, ” on Oprah. “[Audiences] grow fond of one or a couple of the people and they get behind them and they’re invested in them. And of course it’s great to hear … what’s Simon going to say. But we tune in to hear the contestants blossom or not.”

People

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  1. Bringing this over from yesterday’s headline thread…

    Friday iTunes update

    singles

    #16 LLWD
    #40 WWFM
    #177 FYE

    albums

    #65/#570 Kris Allen
    #108/#186 FYE
    #468/#613 Just Like You

    Friday Mediabase Update

    Kris has cracked the Top 10 in Hot AC

    POP:
    26 26 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dying 2792 2383 409 15.912
    +33 Spins
    -11 Bullet
    +0.214 AI

    HAC:
    12 10 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dying 2363 2214 149 12.440
    +16 Spins
    -19 Bullet
    +0.176 AI

    POP:
    34 33 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 1802 1547 255 13.743
    +23 Spins
    -36 Bullet
    +0.230 AI

    HAC:
    41 40 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 370 300 70 1.471
    +21 Spins
    +11 Bullet
    +0.114 AI

  2. I’m glad Fantasia’s show seems to be starting out well. I quite enoyed it myself and I’m looking forward to her album coming out in March.

    I really hope Jermaine Sellers does well this year. We haven’t had a really good R&B singer (particularly male) in YEARS! I have nothing against the southern country singer types and guitar players, but please, lets have some diversity here! Plus, it’ll bring in new markets of viewers.

    And I LOVE Jim C’s review of Adam’s new MV for WWFM. He really went deep with his evaluation and I think he’s on point!

  3. LLWD enters the top 10 on HAC. Nice. Now let’s see if it has the legs to break into the top 20 on Pop. Danny’s MBD looks to be regaining its bullet on country and is 43 on today’s country chart.

    Z100 played tons of remixes of Pants on the Ground this morning. To be honest, they sounded better/as good as most songs out there. It was kinda scary.

  4. Z100 played tons of remixes of Pants on the Ground this morning. To be honest, they sounded better/as good as most songs out there. It was kinda scary.

    So true!

  5. LOL at Skiiboski’s five mug shots, the most recent being December 2009. Great job doing a background check on him by the crack Idol team! TMZ says his stay in Hollywood was brief.

  6. HDD predictions

    YOUR WEAKEND CHART PREVIEW: Heading into the big football weekend, Vampire Weekend looks pretty much like a sure thing for #1 next week. This will be the very first #1 record for ADA, and a big deal indeed for indie rock in general. (Incredible album, btw—see Trakin Care of Business for the details). Here’s how things are shaping up:

    Vampire Weekend (XL/Beggars debut) 110-120k
    Susan Boyle (Columbia) 85-90k
    Ke$ha (Kemosabe/RCA/RMG) 65-70k
    Lady Gaga, The Fame (Interscope) 55-60k
    Alicia Keys (J/RMG) 40-45k
    Lady Gaga, The Fame Monster (Interscope) 30-35k
    Taylor Swift (Big Machine) 30-35k
    Mary J. Blige (Geffen) 30-35k
    Alvin & the Chipmunks (Rhino) 30-35k
    Black Eyed Peas (Interscope) 27-30k
    Justin Bieber (Island/IDJ) 27-30k

  7. I am not sure that person who wrote the article, “Can ‘Idol’ Still Churn Out Stars? Time Will Tell” is smart enough to realize that all music sales have gone down over the years, not just Idol.

  8. I am not sure that person who wrote the article, “Can ‘Idol’ Still Churn Out Stars? Time Will Tell” is smart enough to realize that all music sales have gone down over the years, not just Idol.

    I agree. Even Ke$ha didn’t set any fires for her first week CD sales, and she’s very popular right now. Someone said her digital sales were like 70% or something, which makes sense as her ITUNES CD was on sale for $6.99.

  9. Adam Lambert is on another Billboard chart. His single “For Your Entertainment” debuts at No. 41 on Hot Dance Club Play.

    From Twitter:

    @adamlambert Will there b a chance for us lovers of DARK, INDUSTRIAL VOODOO to get it in the USA?

    @cb4db64 yes darlin. It will most likely be included on an upcoming remix ep for FYE and WWFM avail in a couple months

    !!!!!!!!!!Remix ep and Voodoo!!!!!!!!

  10. Adam Lambert on Gossip Girl: Hell yes.

    Adam Lambert on True Blood: Hell no.

  11. I am not sure that person who wrote the article, “Can ‘Idol’ Still Churn Out Stars? Time Will Tell” is smart enough to realize that all music sales have gone down over the years, not just Idol.

    Um, I think The New York Times is well aware of the state of the recording industry, and the writer does acknowledge overall declining sales:

    For retailers, radio programmers and music industry observers, there is no clear answer to the question of whether “American Idol” has lost its ability to mint big stars, or whether these sliding numbers are simply a function of the larger pattern of declining album sales as consumers shift from buying CDs to downloading single songs.

  12. Danny’s single MBD just got played on a radio station in the UK, Alive radio 103.7. I believe that some more radio stations in the UK are also interested in playing his music. I am glad to see that Danny is starting to get some airplay and exposure in the UK and I hope that he gets more there.

  13. Jx223

    That’s interesting. Do you know whether Adam, Kris or Allison have had their singles played in the U.K.?

  14. Jx223

    That’s interesting. Do you know whether Adam, Kris or Allison have had their singles played in the U.K.?

    I don’t know if the other three are getting airplay in the UK. I found out about Danny getting airplay there because he has a group of fans in the UK who have been working hard to get his song played over there.

    And now they are starting to see some success come from that. So far they have gotten at least three UK stations interested in playing Danny’s song and I believe that Danny’s song has been sent to those stations. I could see him getting some more airplay on UK stations.

  15. Will, that last paragraph from the NYT is very telling. Okay, try not to laugh (okay, laugh if you want) but there’s a new “Chicken Soup for the Soul” book out and it’s all about songwriting and what inspired certain songs to be written. Ray Stevens has a chapter about writing “The Streak” in the 1970’s (you young peeps, go to YouTube and look it up) and how it was so easy back then to record a timely song, get it out on vinyl 45s, and sell millions of them, and how that died out when albums became king (since albums take much longer). He also said that with digital downloading things are coming “full circle” and that it seems singles will rule again.

    I wonder how a new way of marketing could lead to more album sales. Think about it; most of y’all have said you have to hear two or three songs AT LEAST before investing in the whole thing. What if, instead of one single to lead off an album, you released two or three before the album release, even as a “work in progress?” And since iTunes has the “Complete Your Album” feature how much easier would that be? Specifically, how would this pattern have worked for Kris and Allison, and would it have been different for Adam? Sure you wouldn’t have the November releases, but there would also be more time to work on the albums post-tour and there would be less “rush jobs?”

  16. Do you have any prediction of Adam and Kris sales for next week?
    I think Kris will have the 58% increased that David Cook had last year due to American Idol premier.

  17. writer does acknowledge overall declining sales:

    He says that, but everything he writes doesn’t look like he believes it. It is much more provocative to tear down the AI brand.

    No doubt singles sales have skyrocketed in the last few years with the itunes explosion.

    What if, instead of one single to lead off an album, you released two or three before the album release, even as a “work in progress?” And since iTunes has the “Complete Your Album” feature how much easier would that be? Specifically, how would this pattern have worked for Kris and Allison, and would it have been different for Adam? Sure you wouldn’t have the November releases, but there would also be more time to work on the albums post-tour and there would be less “rush jobs?”

    Interesting idea…

  18. Perez Hilton? Seriously? And I thought Boy Bands couldn’t get any less credible (though there will always be a soft spot in my head–I mean, heart, for “Larger Than Life”).

    Adam cracks me up.

  19. Do you have any prediction of Adam and Kris sales for next week?
    I think Kris will have the 58% increased that David Cook had last year due to American Idol premier.

    Yeah, I think Kris will get a good bump – Adam not as much (as in, not as much of a % increase).

  20. Re: that Elliott article, he’s definitely facing the tougher side of the real world right now. He’s had to cancel three shows out of his tour to this point, and is on the verge of canceling the remainder of his California dates due to low pre-sales. Fans who were thinking of going to those shows but haven’t bought tickets yet should do so now!

  21. The 2nd leg of Daughtry’s tour (starting in March) will be with Lifehouse and Cavo.

  22. What if, instead of one single to lead off an album, you released two or three before the album release, even as a “work in progress?” And since iTunes has the “Complete Your Album” feature how much easier would that be? Specifically, how would this pattern have worked for Kris and Allison, and would it have been different for Adam? Sure you wouldn’t have the November releases, but there would also be more time to work on the albums post-tour and there would be less “rush jobs?”

    Interesting idea…

    Like Ke$ha?
    Also, what if record companies sold albums (both digital and physical) like they did Ke$ha’s for $6.99?

    I don’t know if this concept would work with the idols. The sooner you get something out there- the better it is.
    You could say RCA did this a little with releasing the single fye and doing a mv, but then it wasn’t promoted at all to radio. Strangely enough, fye is still selling with the complete absence of radio play.
    The presence of fye and WWFM could have helped album sales.

  23. What if, instead of one single to lead off an album, you released two or three before the album release, even as a “work in progress?” And since iTunes has the “Complete Your Album” feature how much easier would that be?

    I wonder if releasing EP’s would be the way to go. Offering 5-6 songs every 9-12 months. Within in a year, a singer would have put out an entire album. And it would keep them in public rotation more frequently. Charge $3.99 per EP and people may take more of a chance on ‘blind buying’ the music.

  24. You could say RCA did this a little with releasing the single fye and doing a mv, but then it wasn’t promoted at all to radio.

    RCA did promote it to radio. How good of a job it did is debatable, but to say it wasn’t promoted “at all” is demonstrably false.

    I wonder if releasing EP’s would be the way to go. Offering 5-6 songs every 9-12 months.

    That’s what Justin Bieber (sp?) is doing. He released a 7 track album/EP in November and will release another in March. The price of each is cheaper than a normal album (in the $6.99 to $7.99 range)

  25. what if record companies sold albums (both digital and physical) like they did Ke$ha’s for $6.99?

    If my memory serves me correct, didn’t they sell Adam’s CD for $3.99 and also for $1.00?

  26. The idea of Perez Hilton judging boy bands (or judging anything or being on television for any reason whatsoever) makes me want to retch. Every time a fame ho bites the dust, another one who’s even worse takes the last one’s place.

  27. The 2nd leg of Daughtry’s tour (starting in March) will be with Lifehouse and Cavo.

    He’s needs big help to fill up those areas, with an average of only 78% sold out and a number of them less than 60% sold. Also, many tickets were sold for $14.99, so it goes to proves that no matter how many albums you sell, you still need to fill the venues.

  28. Updated itunes (as far as I can tell, as of one hour ago):

    Songs:

    LLWD – #12
    WWFM – #31 (Woot!)

    Albums:
    Jason Castro – #6 (hooray for him)
    KA – #60
    FYE, #91, 151

    WWFM definitely getting a boost from the MV. I guess those things DO work ;-)

    ETA: Does anyone have an itunes feed link/method to generate feeds that has the numbered lists? I’ve been using the official itunes RSS feed generator link (http://ax.itunes.apple.com/rss) and it gives me the lists, but doesn’t let me update the count, and doesn’t give me a numbered list – which is a real pain in the butt). Thanks!

  29. @googletot yes only for 3 days FYE was sold for 3.99 only on Amazon Digital Sales.

  30. Songs:

    LLWD – #12
    WWFM – #31 (Woot!)

    Albums:
    Jason Castro – #6 (hooray for him)
    KA – #60
    FYE, #91, 151

    wow, that is way higher than what my itunes store is showing. good for everyone!

  31. what if record companies sold albums (both digital and physical) like they did Ke$ha’s for $6.99?

    Ke$sha is the exception, not the rule when it comes to marketing and success. IMO

    And I would attribute WWFM’s slight surge at iTunes to not only the music video but the buzz surrounding his Oprah appearance. The newstories surrounding that has probably sparked some attention.

  32. LLWD – #12
    WWFM – #31 (Woot!)

    Albums:
    Jason Castro – #6 (hooray for him)
    KA – #60
    FYE, #91, 151

    Is this pop or overall?

  33. @googletot yes only for 3 days FYE was sold for 3.99 only on Amazon Digital Sales.

    And IIRC it was part of the Black Friday week of sales for a number of artists on Amazon that week.

    I thought the same things about Kesha’s album being only $6.99 on itunes – interesting marketing strategy to maybe get more young people who either steal albums, or tend to just download singles, to get the whole thing instead. In fact, the price was so low I was tempted to buy it – but too many tracks sounded the same. Though I may cave once Tik Tok completely takes over my brain.

    Then again, it all depends on the bottom-line revenue, not the number of units sold. If you sell 100,000 for $6.99 or 60,000 for $12.99, you’re doing better in the second scenario.

  34. alaadam – those are overall.

    ETA: mmb – this is the feed from 1 hr ago – I tried to get it even more recent, but failed – lol. However, hopefully it’s pretty accurate :-) Good news for everyone!

    LLWD, WWFM, albums all doing well!

  35. @googletot yes only for 3 days FYE was sold for 3.99 only on Amazon Digital Sales.

    There was never an Adam sale for a .99, there was a general Amazon coupon also going on at the time that could be applied to Amazon digital product, and as part of that, people apply that to Adam’s album. Which again, was only on Amazon digital for sale for 3.99 and for like 3 days. Something they do and have done, for other artists to promote their digital store as a whole.

  36. And I would attribute WWFM’s slight surge at iTunes to not only the music video but the buzz surrounding his Oprah appearance.

    I would attribute it mostly to increased radio play (with the video mixed in). It has slowly and steadily climbed itunes as it has been played more and climbed up the mediabase chart. FYE and TfM both jumped up high on the chart as the idol/adam fans bought it and then slid back down quickly. WWFM on the other hand got off to a slow start on itunes (probably bc the idol fans who would have bought it bought the album, which dropped at the same time,instead) and now it is slowly climbing up as more people hear it and now will see the video. Nice to see.

  37. Interesting how all these Idol gloom and doom articles like the NYT’s
    ignore David Cook. Guess all that platinum doesn’t prove their point.

  38. and I’ll ask again today — has anyone heard anything more about the Kradison concert? Anyone win tix?

  39. lol – mmb. I still haven’t heard anything :-( With all these kinds of things, I’m guessing there’s some BTS stuff that’s delaying things – maybe having to do with figuring out who’s eligible for the tix, since peeps voted for towns other than their home towns. Who knows?

  40. You could say RCA did this a little with releasing the single fye and doing a mv, but then it wasn’t promoted at all to radio.

    Just because FYE flopped, that doesn’t mean that RCA didn’t promote it. The song was played on over 60 morning shows the Monday on the first full week that it was released. Not only does that show that RCA released the song to stations, but it shows that they were pushing it to, since these were spins during the most listened to time of day, and an indication that they were test spins. Radio stations aren’t going to do this for just any song, these spins are done for songs that have a lot of backing by the labels. FYE also had test spins during a lot of stations “Make it Or Break It” type segments, where the stations were actively seeking out listeners’ opinions on the song. Again, this wouldn’t have been done unless stations were sharing the information with RCA. If RCA had not been in communication with key stations, how do you think they knew that the song was not getting a good reception.

    The $3.99 deal for Adam’s album lasted for a week, not three days. Amazon had the same deal on a couple of albums during that week.

  41. mmb – I agree. WWFM has steadily moved up the charts as awareness has grown. It got some earlier boosts from SYTYCD, most notably, and since then has grown after the holidays with more radio play.

    I think today saw an even bigger jump with the video release (plus articles about the video). But just like with LLWD, WWFM will hopefully keep moving up with the continued radioplay plus mv support.

  42. That’s what Justin Bieber (sp?) is doing. He released a 7 track album/EP in November and will release another in March. The price of each is cheaper than a normal album (in the $6.99 to $7.99 range)

    It’s a good strategy. Jive/RCA/19 should really look to doing this for those Idols releasing new material just 6 months after the show. I much rather hear 6-7 good songs form my fave Idol than 2-3 good ones surrounded by filler and fluff. Charge 5 bucks for 6 songs, keep costs low and put out new material the following spring.

  43. RCA did promote it to radio. How good of a job it did is debatable, but to say it wasn’t promoted “at all” is demonstrably false.

    Adam called into Ryan’s radio station. He didn’t even go down for a visit. Show me or link any other promotion Adam did. (I know there was an mv-I mentioned that in my post.) Also, three weeks later (BEFORE THE AMAs) they sent WWFM to radio. That was a poor push to radio for fye.

  44. Mary102, you must be using a different live feed than I am, because I show LLWD at 16 and WWFM at 38. Still great numbers for both of them, but I’d really be surprised if LLWD has gotten up to 12 in the overall today (just because the sales numbers are so big for the top 20 that I would think it would take time to move up in the ranks, and LLWD was at 16 yesterday).

  45. That was a poor push to radio for fye

    A poor push and no push are two different things. RCA had a radio strategy for FYE, and it failed. They didn’t think that they need to do some of the footwork that labels and artists normally do, probably because of the hype surrounding Adam, but they were wrong. There was an obvious push, or else so many stations wouldn’t have jumped on the song.

  46. The $3.99 deal for Adam’s album lasted for a week, not three days. Amazon had the same deal on a couple of albums during that week.

    I don’t think it lasted a week, actually. I recll it lasting three days.

    Anyhew, what was the last numbers that we had for Kris and Adam’s sales to date? Not the end of 2009, but up to last week, the last time we had both of Kris’s and Adam’s because Kris’s isn’t on that top 50 list we get.

    Which you guys have really opened my eyes to the world of single and album sales. Not sure if it’s necessarily a good awakening, but it’s an awakening nonetheless.

  47. Speaking of radio promotion, I know people sometimes complain about whether Adam is doing radio promo or not.

    Adam did a radio interview while in Chicago for Oprah.
    He also did a radio interview with a Finnish station yesterday and another one with a Malaysian station will be aired today. I read an interview done with a station in Singapore just a few days ago.
    BTW, the one in Finland and Singapore are long, articulate well-done interviews. They took time and energy. They were not mumbling through some 5 minute morning interview and saying “I know, right” every other sentence.
    So, Adam is spending time and energy with radio promotions. Some of them are just international.

  48. If TPTB could just put out a remix of Pants On The Ground today, I bet it would go Top 10 on iTunes in a few hours. The video of the song already has over one million views. So the power of Idol to create buzz instantly remains very strong.

  49. I do think RCA was surprised that FYE didn’t take off on radio right away. It wasn’t the instant hit they expected and needed for Adam in order to validate the image they were promoting of Adam as already being a star. I think it was actually smart of them to drop FYE quickly (particularly after the AMAs), and push a more traditional rollout of WWFM, essentially doing the legwork they should have done for FYE.

    That said, I recall Adam doing a number of radio interviews to push FYE before the AMAs. It was supposed to be his first single; it just didn’t take, so they moved on rather than let it languish with low sales and spin numbers and become a drag on Adam’s image.

    I kind of liken it to what was done with John Mayer’s Who Says. That song was a flop, so they picked a second single quickly.

  50. If TPTB could just put out a remix of Pants On The Ground today, I bet it would go Top 10 on iTunes in a few hours. The video of the song already has over one million views. So the power of Idol to sell music instantly remains very strong.

    Nothing to do with the Power of Idol….everything to do with the power of twitter and email. It’s like a pyramid scheme…one person attaches the video to an email and it is viral in about an hour.

    I am sure there are thousands of you tube videos that have gotten “hit” this way. And who, in their right mind, would pay for that song and performance.

  51. I do think RCA was surprised that FYE didn’t take off on radio right away. It wasn’t the instant hit they expected and needed for Adam in order to validate the image they were promoting of Adam as already being a star.

    I completely agree with this. When FYE was dropped without much hype, it seemed that RCA was expecting an immediate jump to the top of the charts for the song. It didn’t happen and there didn’t seem to be much love on radio for FYE so they ditched it for WWFM and worked that song in the traditional model for new artists.

  52. I don’t think they considered FYE a flop and moved on to WWFM. I get the feeling that was the plan the whole time. For whatever reason I still can’t figure out. They never gave fYE a chance. WWFM was not (and still is not) an instant hit – but it’s steadily growing. I really don’t understand why they didn’t give FYE the same chance to grow on radio. Especially since they made a video for it. How long was FYE out before WWFM was released – a couple of weeks? I’m not sure of the date – but there’s no way you would deem a song a failure after a matter of 2 or 3 weeks. There’s some other reason for the switch. My opinion, anyway.

  53. I’ll bet anything the song could be in the top 10 on iTunes if you could buy it today. Just the way Idol sells downloads of covers during the season. It’s the show not Twitter that is selling the music.

  54. That said, I recall Adam doing a number of radio interviews to push FYE before the AMAs

    Links please?
    Also, WWFM was being sent to radio stations BEFORE THE AMAs.

    The $3.99 deal for Adam’s album lasted for a week, not three days.

    It was three days. By figuring digital sales for FYE that week and percentages for Amazon digital sales, people estimated the mp3 sales numbers to be about 3,000. We can subtract that off his total, if it bothers people that much.
    Hey, but lets add in FYE’s international sales! 50,000 and still going up!

    WWFM – #31 (Woot!)

    That’s AWESOME!!! Wasn’t it in the 70s just a few days ago?

  55. Anyhew, what was the last numbers that we had for Kris and Adam’s sales to date? Not the end of 2009, but up to last week, the last time we had both of Kris’s and Adam’s because Kris’s isn’t on that top 50 list we get.

    This is last week’s figures from Pulse:

    36 LAMBERT*ADAM FOR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT 17,236 -72 61,683 433,834
    91 ALLEN*KRIS KRIS ALLEN 8,565 -71 29,495 227,970

    This week’s actuals (other than what USA Today posted Wednesday) haven’t surfaced yet.

  56. This week’s actuals (other than what USA Today posted Wednesday) haven’t surfaced yet

    .

    I know Brian rounds his numbers (FYE 11K, KATA 5K) but weren’t those based on actuals?

  57. For whatever reason I still can’t figure out. They never gave fYE a chance.

    FYE was always a risky song because of its subject matter. I think they expected Adam’s AMA performance to give it the push it needed so that risk-averse program directors in middle america would spin it. Instead the AMA’s thing ended up being controversial, so it was better for Adam not to have that song hanging around as a constant reminder to the public of a less than stellar performance. (Opinions vary about the choreography, but by every standard, the vocals did not sound good, even if part of the problem was the sound mix on the show.)

    In order to keep selling his album, Adam needed a hit, and FYE was never going to be an unqualified hit, so moving on to WWFM was the smart move. Now that song is still growing, but if it does become a hit, no one (outside teh AI bubble) can say it hit “despite” a controversial start.

  58. Wait, I’m confused about these numbers–I see WWFM at #38, but LLWD is at #16, not #12 (which makes sense, I’m sure it will keep climbing, but it would be really hard to jump 4 spaces that high on the charts so quickly), and KA is at #70 and FYE is at #110. Where are people seeing these other numbers?

  59. babybelle32
    01/15/2010 at 1:34 pm
    You could say RCA did this a little with releasing the single fye and doing a mv, but then it wasn’t promoted at all to radio.

    Just because FYE flopped, that doesn’t mean that RCA didn’t promote it. The song was played on over 60 morning shows the Monday on the first full week that it was released. Not only does that show that RCA released the song to stations, but it shows that they were pushing it to, since these were spins during the most listened to time of day, and an indication that they were test spins. Radio stations aren’t going to do this for just any song, these spins are done for songs that have a lot of backing by the labels. FYE also had test spins during a lot of stations “Make it Or Break It” type segments, where the stations were actively seeking out listeners’ opinions on the song. Again, this wouldn’t have been done unless stations were sharing the information with RCA. If RCA had not been in communication with key stations, how do you think they knew that the song was not getting a good reception.

    That’s really interesting. I had no idea. They really played FYE on 60 radio stations? I heard it on Z100 and Ryan’s show, but not my local radio. Are songs really given some split second determinations? Instant like or they axe it? I’m really surprised then, that certain songs become hits. I’m thinking specifically of songs like Imma Be and So Hard. I found those songs instantly annoying, but now since they’re played on the radio constantly, I’ve gotten used to them.

  60. I think they dropped FYE in order to distance Adam from the AMA debacle. WWFM is more accessable and nonthreatening. It’s a decent song, but not the most interesting or vocally challenging. I think it will do quite well for him, though. He looks fantastic in the new video.

  61. I know Brian rounds his numbers (FYE 11K, KATA 5K) but weren’t those based on actuals?

    Yes. Sometimes the actual Soundscan numbers (not the rounded ones) will surface elsewhere if we are lucky and those I posted above are the actuals from last week and not the rounded figures.

  62. tiger92
    01/15/2010 at 2:06 pm
    That said, I recall Adam doing a number of radio interviews to push FYE before the AMAs

    Links please?
    Also, WWFM was being sent to radio stations BEFORE THE AMAs.

    I think you’re right. It’s hard to remember what went down. I seem to remember hearing that he would be performing WWFM on tv shows – and we knew this even though we were anticipating him performing FYE at the AMAs and we were confused about it, right?

  63. There are no male artists doing well with dance music. So FYE was always a risky single. I’m surprised RCA with all their experience allowed that to be the first single. But they have history of making mistakes with folks off Idol. They buy into the hype too much themselves instead of letting the market lead. Jive (which is a disaster with albums) does seem to have the golden touch with radio. So far Allison’s single is one of their rare flops.

  64. I think they dropped FYE in order to distance Adam from the AMA debacle. WWFM is more accessable and nonthreatening. It’s a decent song, but not the most interesting or vocally challenging. I think it will do quite well for him, though. He looks fantastic in the new video.

    As much as I love FYE, I was wondering from the get go how the h-ll he was gonna perform that song on all of the morning and late night shows. It is not an easy song to sing, and doesn’t show off his voice at all. No one on this board really knows what happened wrt FYE, what the plan was wrt it and WWFM etc etc. Who really cares anymore? It continues to sell on itunes, is being used for other purposes, just hit the BB dance charts. It probably made some people interested in the album. WWFM seems to be doing well.

  65. I think they dropped FYE in order to distance Adam from the AMA debacle. WWFM is more accessable and nonthreatening. It’s a decent song, but not the most interesting or vocally challenging. I think it will do quite well for him, though. He looks fantastic in the new video.

    As much as I love FYE, I was wondering from the get go how the h-ll he was gonna perform that song on all of the morning and late night shows. It is not an easy song to sing, and doesn’t show off his voice at all. No one on this board really knows what happened wrt FYE, what the plan was wrt it and WWFM etc etc. Who really cares anymore? It continues to sell on itunes, is being used for other purposes, just hit the BB dance charts. It probably made some people interested in the album. WWFM seems to be doing well.

  66. Before the AMA:
    WWFM was sold as a single in Adamofficial
    Adam was set to perform WWFM on David Letterman and Ellen D.
    Also I read that some fans called radio stations requesting FYE and they told them they only had WWFM.

    It was very confusing:

  67. Also, WWFM was being sent to radio stations BEFORE THE AMAs.”
    I think you’re right. It’s hard to remember what went down. I seem to remember hearing that he would be performing WWFM on tv shows – and we knew this even though we were anticipating him performing FYE at the AMAs and we were confused about it, right?

    Yes, there was much discussion wondering how could RCA expect radios to embrace two singles.
    What’s interesting is that the FYE mv has continued to help sell the single. It is at week 10 and has sold 208K. Some might say that this “extra single” has helped to sell the album, which was my original point in the first place.
    Also, internationally the single FYE is selling well and is in the top 20 or 40 in many countries. FYE is actually doing better than WWFM in Canada.

  68. Before the AMA:
    WWFM was sold as a single in Adamofficial
    Adam was set to perform WWFM on David Letterman and Ellen D.
    Also I read that some fans called radio stations requesting FYE and they told them they only had WWFM.

    It was very confusing:

    I wonder if they are trying to appeal to all markets. I would say FYE is a nice fit for the club/dance chart. WWFM is good for pop, so how about more of a rock song, like SFW for the next single? Perhaps this has always been the plan?

    I guess we will really never know because the AMA’s sort of threw a monkey wrench into things. Perhaps the plan was always to release two singles back to back?

    I really think they need to release a second single for Allison. LLWD is a hit and I think there is no rush to release a second single for Kris.

  69. I think FYE was a risky single too since it was dance music. Blake Lewis has two decent albums IMO that have alot of dance music and gets very little love from album saleswise or from the radio. I don’t get the impression that most AI fans are into dance music either since TFM sold better initially than FYE did.

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  71. I’m not a fan of revisionist history, so for me, FYE will always be Adam’s first single, because it was released to radio as a single. (I don’t count TFM because it was done for a film, not specifically for Adam.) That said, I don’t really care that Adam’s first single wasn’t a massive hit. WWFM is building just fine, and if it becomes a hit, only those of us who follow AI obsessively are going to remember that it wasn’t his first single, since most of the rest of the world never heard it on radio. For most people, it was just the song Adam performed on the AMAs.

    ETA: My guess is the truth is somewhere in the middle of all of the theories. Maybe FYE was failing with radio PMs before the AMAs, so they queued up WWFM. Maybe they always intended to push WWFM as early as they did, but if the AMA’s had been a huge success, maybe they would have tried to push FYE a bit more. Don’t know; doesn’t matter anymore (but I do enjoy speculating). :)

  72. Jive (which is a disaster with albums) does seem to have the golden touch with radio. So far Allison’s single is one of their rare flops.

    I really hope they make a move with Allison soon. I did not like FIBOU, but the rest of her album is so good. A lot of the other tracks could do very well on radio. She’s such a talent. I hate to think that she is being mismanaged. I think they have been trying to market her too “young”.

  73. I wonder if they are trying to appeal to all markets. I would say FYE is a nice fit for the club/dance chart. WWFM is good for pop, so how about more of a rock song, like SFW for the next single? Perhaps this has always been the plan?

    I guess we will really never know because the AMA’s sort of threw a monkey wrench into things. Perhaps the plan was always to release two singles back to back?

    Well, they did try to do this with David Cook. They released two singles at the same time, with Come Back to Me , which was more of a pop song, then released Barbasol to rock radio. Except they only made a video for Come Back to Me. And he did have 2 successful singles and his cd was platnum before this.

    It’s the same record company and management so maybe they were planning on trying the same thing with Adam, only with one pop song and a club/dance song. And then they stopped promoting FYE after what happened at the AMAs. And really, WWFM is the perfect song to come out after that.

    The other thing is that they also had the Time For Miracles single and video, also, and that never caught on. It was for the 2012 movie, but is on his CD also, so that could be considered the first single. So, there has really been 3 singles released and 3 videos made for Adam in a short period of time.

    So I really hope WWFM is a hit, I know the cd sales are doing well but there hasn’t been a big hit yet. I’m concerned that they might not put any more singles out for him if this isn’t successful.

  74. I really hope they make a move with Allison soon. I did not like FIBOU, but the rest of her album is so good. A lot of the other tracks could do very well on radio. She’s such a talent. I hate to think that she is being mismanaged. I think they have been trying to market her too “young”.

    Well, maybe if she were with RCA, they would’ve already flipped to a second single.

  75. really hope they make a move with Allison soon. I did not like FIBOU, but the rest of her album is so good. A lot of the other tracks could do very well on radio. She’s such a talent. I hate to think that she is being mismanaged. I think they have been trying to market her too “young”.

    I suspect that if they are going to do another allison single they will do it in connection with an appearance on AI. They have to, because she has already done the tv promotion tour (morning and late nite shows) with FIBOU and its too early to go back to them with another single. in March or April when she will (likely) go on AI I bet they have her premiere a new single.

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  77. MJ–I was trying to watch some of last year’s auditions/hollywood week videos thru the Top 13 tab above and they don’t come up. Your descriptions and posters’ comments are there, but when I click on the video I’m taken to photobucket (or find stuff) instead. Are the old videos no longer available for viewing? I was wanting to see them for comparison sake (and a little nostalgia, too). Do others have this problem or is it just my computer?

  78. So, there has really been 3 singles released and 3 videos made for Adam in a short period of time.

    I don’t know if any of this makes good business sense, but for me personally, it’s like being a kid in a candy shop – yay me!! :) ;)

  79. hoosiermama-

    I remember that sometime last season mj’s vids were yanked off photobucket, and so she started using yahoo… so maybe that’s why they’re not available now? It’s just an assumption until mj answers you :-)

  80. I don’t think it lasted a week, actually. I recll it lasting three days

    One of the reasons why I know it was a week is because I downloaded a copy for a friend using the $3.00 rebate offer that Amazon had at the time, and I did that on the last day of that offer, which was on a Sunday.

  81. From VEVO-pretty funny
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMo8JuPPb0M&feature=player_embedded

    That was really cute. I feel sorry for the peeps at VEVO, though, as the comments are scathing. It kind of reminds me of how impatient people can be in terms of Idol fame/sales; If it doesn’t work right away, a ton of people jump right in to criticize. It’s a brand new vehicle, and the concept is sound, so I’m sure they’ll work out the kinks. I think we’ve gotten technologically spoiled. Even though the first color TV shows looked funky, people were just thrilled to have color at all. These days, if something technological doesn’t work flawlessly right off the bat, it seems like everyone has a spaz attack.

  82. Not true..but then it looks good to some to correlate all of Adam’s sales to “give away prices”.

    That’s not what I’m doing, I’m just stating a fact. There is nothing wrong with the album having that price for a week, just like there’s nothing wrong with WWFM being Adam’s second single. Neither is a big deal, so I don’t get the need to re-write history. How can Adam’s sales be due to the Amazon price, when it’s pretty common knowledge that Amazon doesn’t sale a lot of albums or digital downloads? I’m sure that some bought it just because of the low price, but that’s a good thing.

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  84. I don’t think it lasted a week, actually. I recll it lasting three days

    It was for only 3 days. It was a black friday special type deal. A lot of people got that.

  85. Adam did a radio interview while in Chicago for Oprah.
    He also did a radio interview with a Finnish station yesterday and another one with a Malaysian station will be aired today. I read an interview done with a station in Singapore just a few days ago.
    BTW, the one in Finland and Singapore are long, articulate well-done interviews. They took time and energy. They were not mumbling through some 5 minute morning interview and saying “I know, right” every other sentence.

    Well, la-de-da.

  86. Adam said WWFM well be out to buy on Jan 26th.

    Too bad it couldn’t be sooner. I was hoping for this Tuesday. I wonder why the delay between the tv premiere and the itunes date? I guess maybe to build more awareness.

  87. thedavidcook OK, remember yesterday when I said I had some potential news? REMEMBER?!? well it’s confirmed…
    less than a minute ago from web
    thedavidcook Sorry guys, for the delay… The internet can be cruel at times…
    2 minutes ago from web
    Reply Retweet thedavidcook New show! February 27th, Morongo Casino, Palm Springs, CA area! See you all there!

  88. Adam said WWFM well be out to buy on Jan 26th.

    Too bad it couldn’t be sooner. I was hoping for this Tuesday. I wonder why the delay between the tv premiere and the itunes date? I guess maybe to build more awareness.

    I’m kind of glad about this, actually, as long as people can’t get it for free online in the meantime. Anyone seeing and liking the video who haven’t yet bought the single may do so to hold them over while they wait.

  89. thedavidcook: New show! February 27th, Morongo Casino, Palm Springs, CA area! See you all there!
    less than a minute ago from web

  90. OhMyRawrrr
    01/15/2010 at 3:51 pm
    WTF was that commercial supposed to mean – hilarious! I got flashbacks of 80s music videos.
    Specifically – Def Leppard – me and my wine
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5irgYeDM2qU

    Oh lol lol!!
    Never saw that Def Lep vid (even though I know the song)… actually seeing their old stuff makes me kinda sad suddenly… knowing that later the drummer lost his arm and the guitarist died of mixing pills and alchohol…

    But the Vevo commercial looks like pure fun!! I wouldn’t being a part of that party, if you catch my drift… ;-)

  91. isisdagmar
    01/15/2010 at 2:14 pm
    Wait, I’m confused about these numbers–I see WWFM at #38, but LLWD is at #16, not #12 (which makes sense, I’m sure it will keep climbing, but it would be really hard to jump 4 spaces that high on the charts so quickly), and KA is at #70 and FYE is at #110. Where are people seeing these other numbers?

    What feeds/links are other people using to get the itunes lists? I only ask because maybe mine isn’t accurate. I used the RSS feed generator link for itunes.

    ETA: Ok, manipulated an old version of a feed link I had and got:

    LLWD at 17
    WWFM at 38

    But argh with that other feed showing a date stamp of an hour ago and being THAT off on the songs – so confused with that one. And it was all songs, not just pop.

  92. One of the reasons why I know it was a week is because I downloaded a copy for a friend using the $3.00 rebate offer that Amazon had at the time, and I did that on the last day of that offer, which was on a Sunday.

    Hmm. Well that’s not what I remember and seems that others are remembering 3 days. I remember that the 3.00 off coupon lasted a week. But that the 3.99 on Adam’s album was just for 3 days.

    So I guess we could all look for proof, but I’m just going to say YMMV and move on, because it was only for few days overall and it was for Amazon digital which is a very small percentage of the overall all album sales, and even small percentage of the digital market. So whatever the number was, it was very small in the overall sales.

  93. thedavidcook: Sorry guys, for the delay… The internet can be cruel at times…
    8 minutes ago from web

  94. What feeds/links are other people using to get the itunes lists? I only ask because maybe mine isn’t accurate. I used the RSS feed generator link for itunes

    Ive just been looking at the store and wwfm has been at 38 and llwd at 16 or 17 all day….fye albums have moved around but never higher than the low 100s and kata has been in the high 60s or low 70s all day. Hope that what you saw was more recent and that the store has not updates, bc those numbers for both kris and adam were great!

  95. Mary102:

    You’re probably using a feed that excludes explicit songs and albums. The spread of #16 & #12 for LLWD sounds about right.

    Regarding the interviews – I don’t really see the need to put down Kris’ interviews in order to make Adam’s interviews seem better, which I gather is what the purpose of the comment was. It’s good that Adam is doing interviews – it’s high time.

  96. thedavidcook: New show! February 27th, Morongo Casino, Palm Springs, CA area! See you all there!

    That is not Washington, DC. *Sniff* Oh well. He *could* come make up my Norfolk show, though. I wouldn’t be upset about that, no I wouldn’t.

  97. Eileen99
    01/15/2010 at 4:13 pm
    Mary102:

    You’re probably using a feed that excludes explicit songs and albums. The spread of #16 & #12 for LLWD sounds about right.

    Ahh, mystery solved! Phew! I was wondering WTH was going on – because I was using the official RSS generator on itunes (date stamped, etc.) so I didn’t know what to trust! Lol – ok, thank you – I’ll select that “include explicit versions” next time ;-)

  98. Regarding the interviews – I don’t really see the need to put down Kris’ interviews in order to make Adam’s interviews seem better, which I gather is what the purpose of the comment was. It’s good that Adam is doing interviews – it’s high time.

    Well I agree about not needing to put down Kris’s interviews. I think he’s fine in most, and more than fine in some. I like his dry sense of humor.

    That being said, I don’t also feel the need to imply that Adam needs to start doing them or hasn’t done enough of them. Of course I probably also feel that way because I’ve heard tons of them from Kris and Adam and the interviewers usually ask the same lame questions over and over and OVER again, and so yaaawwwnnn for me. But the same probably can’t be said for the Finnish, so cool for them. And as IIRC, the Finnish love them some Adam. At least from iTunes they seem to.

  99. It’s good that Adam is doing interviews – it’s high time

    Huh?? He’s been doing a bunch of interviews. I just don’t uderstand this comment at all.

  100. Well, maybe if she were with RCA, they would’ve already flipped to a second single.

    No if she was with RCA, she would have been dropped already. Ask Diana DeGarmo. For all the talk about how great it was that Jive let Allison be Allison on her cd, in comparison to how RCA tried to shoehorn Degarmo into a mold she didn’t fit, the end result might end up being the same and that’s unfortunate.

  101. Do you think RCA might have learned a lesson from what happened to Diana, and Bo, and Taylor, etc, etc, etc? Maybe they wouldn’t have shoehorned Allison, just because they did it to Diana 5 years ago. I don’t know how patient RCA would be, but I think the whole Idol franchise has learned not to play puppet master with the contestants records in the last few years. Maybe that’s because they’ve learned the public isn’t buying it, or maybe it’s because Clive Davis hasn’t been able to get his hands on them. I think he is largely responsible for forcing the Idol kids into recording music not in their genre. They don’t call him Our Dread Lord for nothing!

  102. It’s good that Adam is doing interviews – it’s high time

    Huh?? He’s been doing a bunch of interviews. I just don’t uderstand this comment at all.

    It’s my opinion that Adam should have been doing radio interviews all along. I’m not implying it, I’m stating it as my opinion.

  103. Well, they did try to do this with David Cook. They released two singles at the same time, with Come Back to Me , which was more of a pop song, then released Barbasol to rock radio. Except they only made a video for Come Back to Me. And he did have 2 successful singles and his cd was platnum before this.

    That is too bad because I do like Barbasol. I voted for Cook in S7 but I wasn’t thrilled about his album, although I think he is incredibly talented. I think Barbasol was one of the better songs on the album.

    It almost sounds like FYE got the Barbasol treatment? How much of a push for radio did they give Barbasol. I know FYE got a mv, which was great and but I think it may have had to do with the Vevo launch and the European and Dance club market.

    I know it was a bit of a rough patch for Adam with the AMAs and the public battle with the “OUT” editor, but the backstories of those events sure help to add more depth to Adam’s WWFM mv.

  104. That is not Washington, DC. *Sniff* Oh well. He *could* come make up my Norfolk show, though. I wouldn’t be upset about that, no I wouldn’t.

    Well, he’s gotta come here in May. Don’t know if he’ll think it too crass to mix charity with business, but I hope he slips in a concert in the area as well.

    It almost sounds like FYE got the Barbasol treatment? How much of a push for radio did they give Barbasol. I know FYE got a mv, which was great and but I think it may have had to do with the Vevo launch and the European and Dance club market.

    They made no video for Bar-ba-sol and he never got the opportunity to play it on any of his TV performances. Certainly not an awards show. He always played Come Back to Me. Frankly, they did nothing to promote the song and I think they released it to placate David who must have felt that his singles weren’t reflecting who he was as an artist. He admitted that he and his band loved performing Bar-ba-sol, but he never said the same about CBtM.

  105. How much of a push for radio did they give Barbasol.

    Barbasol got *nothing* – I, too, think that it was done to placate David. Just a theory, we’ll never know, but there was no real effort to move that song. No video, no performances, nada. DEFINITELY far less promo than FYE!

    Don’t know if he’ll think it too crass to mix charity with business, but I hope he slips in a concert in the area as well.

    I would not think badly of him if he mixed charity with a show somewhere around here ;) . Heh!

  106. I know it was a bit of a rough patch for Adam with the AMAs and the public battle with the “OUT” editor, but the backstories of those events sure help to add more depth to Adam’s WWFM mv.

    So true. Lol – for all we know, Adam is the most brilliant marketing genius ever, and he perfectly planned the AMAs, the controversy, the fallout with ABC, even the curfuffle with fans to PERFECTLY coincide with WWFM, the mv, and its message. Life imitating art and all that.

    (disclaimer: I’m not really calling Adam the most brilliant guy ever, and if I am then that’s completely my opinion ;-))

  107. Wow, Dave will be out on the road again in February? That man does not have the words *down time* in his extensive vocabulary. Good for him though, keeps his fans engaged and hopefully he and the band will be testing out some of the new songs *crosses fingers*

  108. thedavidcook RT @shesha1916 sometimes I want to kick the shit out of @thedavidcook // me too. :) about 1 hour ago

    lol

  109. If this has already been posted, I apologize. If you haven’t yet heard this, here’s a kinda cute interview with Adam from Chicago’s B-96 radio station that aired yesterday morning. If the link doesn’t take you right to his interview, click on his small photo that appears in a strip of pics on the home page.

    http://www.b96hits.com/~interviews

  110. Clay is doing a cover album of old songs? Hey, he will probably be successul and be the male SuBo.

  111. In the relatively short time Katharine McPhee has been on the scene she’s had a variety of different personas.

    That is a big problem I have with Katherine. Who is she? I don’t like it when people keep changing themselves trying to be what they think the public wants. Be true to yourself, first and foremost, and the world will follow.

    As for Clay’s cd song list, sounds like a good move for him. He tried two cd’s of original songs, to little avail (after the initial Idol momentum died down). He did one cover cd, but it was really weak for a variety of reasons, one being that he chose very corny 80s songs. I always wondered what that voice could do with some timeless good songs. So we shall see. Susan Boyle, yes similar. He won’t do nearly as well of course, since she was new and had “the story,” while he has already had lots of chances and people have made up their mind about him. But this is probably his best shot. I won’t buy the cd unless it really sounds good, but most likely I’ll buy individual songs if there are any I like. I really do hope he does okay with it.

  112. Is there a red carpet for Critic’s Choice Awards? From the web site it looks like it starts 9 p.m. eastern time, so 6 p.m. my time. Would the red carpet, if there is one, start in about an hour?

  113. LLWD has exceeded 30 million in AI a week:
    KRIS ALLEN – Live Like We’re Dying = 30.361 (+ 0.460)

    To checkpoint the other Idols:
    11. KELLY CLARKSON – Already Gone = 63.606 (- 0.667)
    CARRIE UNDERWOOD – Temporary Home = 25.776 (+ 0.584)
    DAUGHTRY – Life After You = 19.983 (+ 0.130)
    ADAM LAMBERT – Whataya Want From Me = 15.605 (+ 0.342)

    (number in brackets is the increase in AI from yesterday)

    Also found some boxscores:

    36 Demi Lovato, David Archuleta Dunkin’ Donuts Center
    Providence, R.I.
    Oct. 30, 2009
    $243,381
    6,132 /
    6,132
    1 /
    1
    $127.50, $14.99
    AEG Live

    37 Demi Lovato, David Archuleta Trump Taj Mahal, Mark Etess Arena
    Atlantic City, N.J.
    Nov. 1, 2009
    $240,507
    4,847 /
    4,847
    1 /
    1
    $127.50, $39.50
    AEG Live

    45 Demi Lovato, David Archuleta Verizon Wireless Arena
    Manchester, N.H.
    Oct. 29, 2009
    $196,542
    4,493 /
    5,400
    1 /
    0
    $127.50, $14.99
    AEG Live

    49 93.3 FLZ Jingle Ball: The Fray, Jordin Sparks, Pitbull, Boys Like Girls, Kesha, 3OH!3, Sean Kingston, Jason Derulo, Iyaz, We are the Kings St. Pete Times Forum
    Tampa, Fla.
    Dec. 13, 2009
    $179,285
    4,493 /
    6,849
    1 /
    0
    $129.33, $89.33, $59.33, $19.33
    Ledge Entertainment

    171 The Fray, Jason Castro Lifestyle Communities Pavilion
    Columbus, Ohio
    Dec. 8, 2009
    $40,740
    1,358 /
    2,000
    1 /
    0
    $30
    PromoWest Productions

    And, WOW:

    1 TRANS-SIBERIAN ORCHESTRA
    $11,922,345
    Dec. 16-30

  114. There doesn’t appear to be a red carpet on E!, but there is a short one on VH-1 prior to the show.

    ETA: Jason Castro appearing with the Fray??!! That makes me really happy for him! I like the Fray.

  115. David Archuleta Has Arrived
    Finalist of “American Idol” in the country

    Up Close:
    Archuleta has recorded two albums and his songs have charted in the U.S., Latin America and Britain. Currently, he is working on two more albums for this year.

    The singer, songwriter and actor David Archuleta, the first runner-up from the seventh season of the reality show “American Idol,” is in the country.

    The artist came to support the humanitarian programs of the organization Mentors International, and to give a talk to the youth of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

    Impressions

    Archuleta toured Patzicia, Chimaltenango, to survey the poverty in the country and to see how to help fight it.

    What do you think of Guatemala?
    — Happy to be here. I don’t want to be like the average American. I want to help.

    What message will you leave to young people?
    — To strive for their goals a little every day and not to be defeated by adversity.

    How do you feel about your artistic achievements?
    — Very happy for the help I received from my family, and for the privilege of making known my music.

    How has the experience of collaborating with renowned artists been?
    — It’s exciting because you have the opportunity to learn a lot.

    5 Teen Choice Awards are credited to the singer of Honduran descent.

    Translated from Spanish article in Nuestro Diario.

  116. dannygokey: At St. Jude’s hospital 2day-These kids are amazing. In spite of their illness’ they have so much optimism-We all could learn a lot from them
    2 minutes ago from web

  117. FYE is actually doing better than WWFM in Canada.

    FYE gets a ton of play on MOD on Much Music, and Much More’s top ten (#1 today) so that’s a big part of it – that and radio. They premiered WWFM today on MOD, and actually mentioned Kris (!) in the scroll along the bottom of the screen. Said they were both talented and there was room for both, and that Kris’s favourite musician was Paul McCartney, and then mentioned Beatles Rockband. I don’t know why they’re giving Kris facts while not playing his music but I’ll take it damn it. ;)

    I really hope they make a move with Allison soon. I did not like FIBOU, but the rest of her album is so good. A lot of the other tracks could do very well on radio. She’s such a talent. I hate to think that she is being mismanaged. I think they have been trying to market her too “young”.

    I’ve always thought that FIBOU was the wrong song to introduce Allison – I like it, I bought it, but it wasn’t really Allison, like LLWD was Kris. At least not the Allison we “met” on Idol. If that makes sense at all, Kris talked about LLWD being an introduction to the music he wants to make and that’s a really good way to put it. I would have gone with Scars for Allison. That’s a beautiful song. I’m not saying that Allison can’t sing FIBOU, just that it was the wrong introductory song. For me – for you.

    I don’t know if any of this makes good business sense, but for me personally, it’s like being a kid in a candy shop – yay me!!

    It worries me, I admit. The videos do come out of Adam’s bottom line – he’s the one paying for them. So good for the fans, but hopefully they’re keeping the costs lowish.. cheap snake rental people maybe? lol WWFM looks gorgeous though.

    And Kris and the Vevo video – total win. It drove me crazy not being able to see that. Very cool.

  118. It worries me, I admit. The videos do come out of Adam’s bottom line – he’s the one paying for them

    Agreed, which is why I’m glad TfM was on Sony’s dime, not Adam’s. Phew! But still FYE and WWFM? not cheap. sigh.

    I’ve always thought that FIBOU was the wrong song to introduce Allison – I like it, I bought it, but it wasn’t really Allison, like LLWD was Kris. At least not the Allison we “met” on Idol. If that makes sense at all, Kris talked about LLWD being an introduction to the music he wants to make and that’s a really good way to put it. I would have gone with Scars for Allison. That’s a beautiful song. I’m not saying that Allison can’t sing FIBOU, just that it was the wrong introductory song. For me – for you

    Well I like FIBOU as well, don’t love it and don’t like it as much as other things from her album, that’s for sure. Scars being one of my faves, along with Holiday. Question though, is Scars a good choice for a radio single? I’ve lately thought that Don’t Waste The Pretty would be the better choice for a single.

  119. dannygokey: At St. Jude’s hospital 2day-These kids are amazing. In spite of their illness’ they have so much optimism-We all could learn a lot from them
    2 minutes ago from web

    Danny is in Memphis? Does anyone know why? Radio promo?

  120. Thanks, Kirsten, for those numbers.

    2 sellouts plus one at 83% for Archie! Those were very large venues too. Woohooo!!

    Here are some more Box Office figures:

    11/24/2009 Tue – 11/25/2009 Wed
    -David Archuleta / Benton Paul in US-UT Abravanel Hall (cap.2800)
    Admission: $28.00 – $38.00. BoxOffice: $175,992. Shows: 2
    Sold: 4,914 of 5,002 – 98%

    11/29/2009 Sun
    -David Archuleta / Benton Paul in US-CA Wells Fargo Center For The Arts (cap.1660)
    Admission: $42.75. BoxOffice: $58,482.
    Sold: 1,368 of 1,500 – 91%

    Idol Stages

  121. There were some pictures of Danny with radio station types this morning, I think. from twitter:

    973thedawg: Jude, Stephanie, Shelley & Danny Gokey in Memphis. http://bit.ly/4Np6p1

    http://twitpic.com/y7xuq

    Danny’s in Memphis mostly for a charity-related event, not PR. He’s there for the Country Cares event at St. Jude’s Children’s Research Hospital. I posted a picture released by St. Jude’s a little bit up-thread. Carrie Underwood also is there. Believe Danny is there for the whole event, which may run into the weekend with seminars or other activities? Not sure that much of it is public, if any.

    He’s got more radio tour stops coming next week in AL, LA, etc. Forget where, but the locations are up at his myspace (myspace.com/dannygokey) and/or dannygokey.com Events list. A Fox tv affiliate in at least one of the cities may have Danny on its broadcast.

  122. southwestmiwx

    Top Celebrity Haiti Helpers: Sandra Bullock/Tiger Woods/Chelsea Clinton/Gisele Bundchen/Kris Allen/Alonzo Mourning/Dwayne Wade/Lenny Kravitz 14 minutes ago from web

    I have no idea what this means, but this was just RT’d to me. Originated from southwestmiwx? And I don’t know in what way these people are judged to have been the biggest celebrity helpers, but sounds good to me (although I am distrustful of Tiger Woods’ motivations, but maybe that’s too mean of me, lol).

  123. Kris Allen behind the scenes video of the AI promo we have yet to see.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lST1tOXonzw

    tripp_ncwy, thanks for the link. This is one of the thing i love in Kris, it’s all about music. Everything else is a ‘job’ but when comes the music it’s the fun and relaxing part

  124. I know Trans-Siberian Orchestra comes thru Seattle every holiday season, but those numbers are just crazy. Wow is right.

    Kirsten, did we ever get the numbers from the Z100 Ball? They might have been posted already and I missed them. That had to have been huge.

  125. steph6449 beat me to it!

    Meanwhile, the ontd_ai peeps set up a link for donations to Haiti relief and they tweeted a bunch of celebs, including most of the Idols, asking them to retweet the link. And it is working — Kris, Constantine and Megan are among the people who have re-tweeted the link. Others to do so include Jim C, Michael Slezak, Al Roker, Cassidy Haley, Alisan Porter, Lyndsey Parker, Trugs, Michelle Collins, and other members of the Allen family

    According to this twitter, Kris is among the top celebrity helpers in terms of aid for Haiti. (don’t have any clue what southwestmiwx is, though)

    southwestmiwx

    #Top Celebrity Haiti Helpers: Sandra Bullock/Tiger Woods/Chelsea Clinton/Gisele Bundchen/KRIS ALLEN/Alonzo Mourning/Dwayne Wade/Lenny Kravitz 20 minutes ago from web

  126. Also, I hope the idea of David Archuleta as Spiderman is a joke. Does he even have any acting experience? Spiderman is a HUGE movie franchise — they wouldn’t seriously give the lead role to an unknown (in terms of acting). Too much risk involved — and too much $$$

  127. Barbasol got *nothing* – I, too, think that it was done to placate David. Just a theory, we’ll never know, but there was no real effort to move that song. No video, no performances, nada. DEFINITELY far less promo than FYE!

    I think so too. I have heard that the version of Barbasol that was edited for radio was not as good as the version on the cd and that played a part in why it wasn’t played on the radio. And I heard he did play it on Jimmy Fallon but it wasn’t aired and was never put on the internet. So I agree it wasn’t promoted, and I don’t know know why.

    I think, though that RCA had more intentions of promoting FYE because they did make a video and they did have him sing it on the AMAs. I did see an interview where Adam wanted to release FYE first. Maybe RCA thought this was a risk ( which it was ) so they had WWFM ready to release also?

    The thing with all this, is that I used to wonder why they only released 2 videos for David Cook. But when I saw the year end rankings, I kind of believe now that this wasn’t a bad thing because the singles and cd did do well on the charts last year, and the tour did excellent. I have also read that when an artist does a video that they have to pay for a portion of it from their profits, so if a cd and it’s single are doing well, it is better not to make another video. So, that’s why I’m a bit concerned that they already had to make 3 videos for Adam. I do see that they are giving a lot of promotion to Adam too and I am hoping this all works out.

  128. Hasn’t that behind the scenes of the AI promo for Kris been out a while? I know I watched one a few weeks ago and I thought at the time the commercial should have been out *before* AI started.

  129. Also, I hope the idea of David Archuleta as Spiderman is a joke. Does he even have any acting experience? Spiderman is a HUGE movie franchise — they wouldn’t seriously give the lead role to an unknown (in terms of acting). Too much risk involved — and too much $$$

    Yes, it’s just a joke. Don’t worry about that. :)

  130. Hmm, I wonder what kind of show the Morongo Feb. 27th show will be. The Midwest Kings (basically Andy and Neal, though I assume there will be a drummer and bassist too) are playing a show in Tulsa on Feb. 18th and have been talking about doing more shows after that.

    Which wouldn’t preclude a DC performance complete with the Anthemic (gurg, still not loving that name) on the 27th, but then again, it might.

    I wonder if David is already setting up to try out new material. Which would be awesome, but also, wow, *really* early. These days the music business moves a lot faster than it used to, that’s for sure.

  131. Trina

    The video was up very briefly a couple of weeks ago, but then very quickly made private.

  132. Cale tweeted this earlier today. I hope this doesn’t mean he’s left Kris’ band…hopefully he’s just going home for some vacation before they start doing some more gigs (although it sounds like he isn’t interesting in relocating permanently)

    calevis24

    #Dear la, it’s been nice hanging out with you, but I’ve decided we should just be friends. I’m going back to arkansas. – sincerely, cale about 5 hours ago from txt

  133. Question though, is Scars a good choice for a radio single? I’ve lately thought that Don’t Waste The Pretty would be the better choice for a single.

    Well, I thought “Pieces” sounded pretty amazing when they played it during the show the other night. I vote for that or “No One Else”. Gah. Jive, take care of this girl, I’m telling you…

  134. Yes girlygirl=it looks like they have quoted Simon for recommending Archie for Spiderman. He was one of 19 recommended. The fan sites have had fun with it dressing him in costume et all. In the meantime he is in Honduras inspiring a Mentorship program and tweeting to us encouraging us not to be afraid of Helping those in Haiti with anything we can do to help.

    P/s/ thanks Ozarka for keeping us posted on all things David Archuleta.

  135. I have heard that the version of Barbasol that was edited for radio was not as good as the version on the cd

    They *edited* it for radio? What on earth for? It couldn’t have been for language and since when does rock radio care about song length? I swear to god, RCA makes some of the strangest decisions regarding music I have ever seen.

    Even while acknowledging that 1) the history of the music business is filled with sad stories of artists getting screwed up and screwed over by their labels and 2) David is hardly going to complain about what happened with his first record, even that success story has always seemed like it could have been a better one given fewer stupid moves on the part of RCA.

    I have zero complaints about 19, whom I think have done a really good job keeping David’s visibility up, but RCA — yeesh.

    Sometimes I wonder if the relative indifference displayed by RCA during the latter half of DCTR’s shelf life and Adam’s weird singles roll out have less to do with their individual merits and more to do with the fact that they had the same A&R guy at RCA. The one who, over the last 8 months, appeared more interested in setting up his next job than doing right by his artists. Phbpt.

  136. Weird how RCA apparently treated Barbasol, it’s one of my faves of Cook’s album, so shame.

  137. Said they were both talented and there was room for both, and that Kris’s favourite musician was Paul McCartney, and then mentioned Beatles Rockband. I don’t know why they’re giving Kris facts while not playing his music but I’ll take it damn it.

    yes damn it. But it’s a start. I guess it’s just a matter of time before they turn to *gold* LLWD :)

    Hasn’t that behind the scenes of the AI promo for Kris been out a while? I know I watched one a few weeks ago and I thought at the time the commercial should have been out *before* AI started.

    Trina, no. It’s the first time i’m seeing this

  138. Last post ho before I go — because I don’t listen to the radio at all, it’s always a surprise to me what is and isn’t hit material.

    I had to read this blog to discover that two bands I always thought must be popular — Scissor Sisters and Placebo — had no commercial hits in the US. They were popular with me and my friends! How could they not be popular with everyone? Likewise, I have hated every note I’ve ever heard from Miley Cyrus and Britney Spears, and yet? Popular & successful. So what it take to achieve radio success these days makes very little sense to me.

    For whatever reason — because it’s grown on me, because I still love her voice under all the electronic nonsense, because I love the passion of her live performances — I’m not quite ready to give up on FIBOU. Call me Pollyanna, but while it hasn’t blazed up the charts (to er, say the least), it hasn’t completely gone away, either. Maybe there’s still hope? I don’t know. I do agree that if they are going to go for a second single, using AI to launch it would be a good idea, but that’s not going to happen for a month or two at least, right? I wonder what might happen during that time…

    As for that second single, so far just today we’ve got votes for Holiday, Scars, No One Else, Pieces and Don’t Waste the Pretty, all of which I’d be happy with. Hey, I’ll throw in a vote for You Don’t Know Me! Allison has a co-writing credit on it, so I suppose it doesn’t have a hope in hell, but man, that’s a terrific song.

  139. girlygirl, i’m sure Cale just doesn’t want to settle in L.A but will tour nevertheless with Kris. when he got with Kris it was a dream he has cherish for a long time to break through in music, so he won’t let go of it

  140. Mtlfan

    I understand living in L.A. isn’t for everyone, but how is he supposed to rehearse/work with the band if he’s in Arkansas and Kris and the other guys are in L.A.? That doesn’t seem like a great long-term plan, but maybe he can work it out.

  141. Last post ho before I go — because I don’t listen to the radio at all, it’s always a surprise to me what is and isn’t hit material.

    Oh I hear ya. I don’t listen to or like Top 40 radio. Avoided it for years, only been exposed due to AI. The things I do for Kris and Adam. Oy.

    But yeah, agree about not getting how Placebo and Scissor Sisters aren’t popular. But much as I despise Miley, I get how her songs can be popular even when I hate them. That Party In The USA thing was hook-y and catchy and had a (generic) but “good,” beat and the video fit the season/mood well. I have already shared my shamefully liking Britney, so yeah, I get how she’s popular, even if I think she’s crap.

    Rap and hip hop though eludes me about what’s popular, but then my hatred for it is pretty encompassing.

    Oh and on a different note and now it’s not the right thread, but dear goddess Adam’s hair looks like crap on the Oprah show. Just saw the promo for it. SuBo looks nice. That’s a great colour on her.

    With that I’m off to get my Glass Key on. Ahhh Noir.

  142. is the Critics Choice Awards Adam is presenting an award at tonight televised live?

  143. Hmm, I wonder what kind of show the Morongo Feb. 27th show will be. The Midwest Kings (basically Andy and Neal, though I assume there will be a drummer and bassist too) are playing a show in Tulsa on Feb. 18th and have been talking about doing more shows after that.

    Well, considering the way these guys travel (and thank god for their youth, cos it would kill me) I’m sure performing in Tulsa as MWK on 2/18 and performing with David in Palm Springs as The Anthemic on 2/27 is not a problem. I did note that MWK’s concert date was not announced until David got back from Vancouver. I think there was some conferring going on so there was no overlap.

  144. is the Critics Choice Awards Adam is presenting an award at tonight televised live?

    It looks that way. The red carpet portion is on right now on VH1 and MTV. Then, the award show begins at 9pm E and runs through 11pm E on VH1 only. At least, this is what my guide is telling me. I’ve been watching the red carpet since 8:30p and haven’t seen Adam yet.

    Take that back….just saw a quick flash of him….looks like he’s wearing a black suit. :)

  145. Oh and I lied, one more comment before I go back to Mr. Morrison (starting Blue Dahlia, then going Glass Key).

    Take that back….just saw a quick flash of him….looks like he’s wearing a black suit.

    And bad hair. Worse than his goofy AMA announcement hair. Though differently wrong than his Oprah hair. And what’s with the vests? I don’t get it. At least this time it’s just one.

    Okay, back to the world of black and white and bourbon shots with bourban chasers.

  146. girlygirl,

    yeah i agree with you, it’s going to be more difficult with the travelling. Maybe his girlfriend can’t/doesn’t want to move to L.A..

  147. So, that’s why I’m a bit concerned that they already had to make 3 videos for Adam.

    That would be just two videos paid for by Adam.

    TfM was made for the movie 2012 and thus paid for by the movie peeps (Sony ?), so not to worry as no money came out of Adam’s pocket for that one.

    I liked all three videos by the way. ;-)

  148. Which wouldn’t preclude a DC performance complete with the Anthemic (gurg, still not loving that name)

    Oh good. Glad there’s another person who still can’t get over the asstasticness of that name. Sucky McSuckSuck DC and friends!

  149. So, that’s why I’m a bit concerned that they already had to make 3 videos for Adam.

    That would be just two videos paid for by Adam.

    TfM was made for the movie 2012 and thus paid for by the movie peeps (Sony ?), so not to worry as no money came out of Adam’s pocket for that one.

    I liked all three videos by the way.

    That’s better. I like all the videos also.

    I think I’m more concerned of how many singles and videos will be released for someone if there isn’t a hit. Do they keep releasing new singles? Or maybe singles don’t matter as much if the cd sales are good? I’m talking more in general than anyone specific. I just never paid that much attention before.

  150. Yes girlygirl=it looks like they have quoted Simon for recommending Archie for Spiderman.

    LOL Just to be clear, it was an EW reader named Simon, those were all reader suggestions.

  151. They *edited* it for radio? What on earth for? It couldn’t have been for language and since when does rock radio care about song length? I swear to god, RCA makes some of the strangest decisions regarding music I have ever seen.

    Even while acknowledging that 1) the history of the music business is filled with sad stories of artists getting screwed up and screwed over by their labels and 2) David is hardly going to complain about what happened with his first record, even that success story has always seemed like it could have been a better one given fewer stupid moves on the part of RCA.

    I have zero complaints about 19, whom I think have done a really good job keeping David’s visibility up, but RCA — yeesh.

    Sometimes I wonder if the relative indifference displayed by RCA during the latter half of DCTR’s shelf life and Adam’s weird singles roll out have less to do with their individual merits and more to do with the fact that they had the same A&R guy at RCA. The one who, over the last 8 months, appeared more interested in setting up his next job than doing right by his artists. Phbpt.

    Right, I think that DCTR did very well, but do think that there could have done even better if there were a few different decisions. I think Kiss on the Neck could have been a huge hit but couldn’t be released because it was hidden only on the cds. But maybe there’s some strategy to that because you have to buy the physical cd to get it. It seems to me that RCA wanted to make it less of a rock album based on the songs that were left out or not on all editions and lack of support for Barbasol. It does sound like the new cd is going to be more of a rock cd and that RCA is supporting it.

    That’s interesting about the A&R person being the same. You might be right about that. It does seem that since last spring there hadn’t been a lot of promotion for David, though part of this was probably because of the tour. But I do feel that if they had done some more promotion or even released another single by the end of the summer, that there might have been a better chance for a grammy or AMA nominatation.

    And I hope there aren’t some mistakes made that are going to hurt Adam, because to a point, I’m afraid that there could be some overpromotion. That there could be some overexposure or hype that no one can live up to, especially a new artist. And that’s part of what happened with the AMAs, and that this is hurting him more than helping.

    Is it possible that with a new artist, the record companies allocate a certain amount of money to promotion to see how they are going to do? And then if they do well, they give more to the next cd?

    Actually considering how hard it is to make it as a new artist in the music industry, they are both doing fantastic. I just hope they both have continued success.

  152. Mediabase update:

    15-01-2010

    POP:
    34 33 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 1811 1630 181 13.77
    +9 Spins
    -74 Bullet
    +0.027 AI

    HAC:
    40 39 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 386 312 74 1.506
    +16 Spins
    +4 Bullet
    +0.035 AI

  153. POP:
    27 26 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dying 2907 2399 508 16.831
    +115 Spins
    +99 Bullet
    +0.919 AI

    HAC:
    12 10 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dying 2389 2223 166 12.517
    +26 Spins
    +17 Bullet
    +0.077 AI

  154. Saga, no, that isn’t AT40 data. LLWD moved up one spot to #28 on this week’s countdown, but I don’t know WWFM’s position. It was probably on the countdown but not at #34; there are too many recurrents ahead of it for it to be that high.

    Mediabase added 6 new monitored stations to the panel this morning (thanks BCU79); this helped LLWD, which is being played a lot on a few of the new stations, as well as many others, particularly the Drake song which pulled far ahead of LLWD. Shinedown, all of a sudden, though, is now at hand for LLWD for pass in the next few days.

  155. Gah, no edit. LLWD moved up to #5 on the VH-1 countdown as well. Still holding at #17 iTunes.

  156. Barbasol was edited slightly for song length, I believe. No big deal really.

  157. tripp_ncwy
    01/15/2010 at 7:10 pm

    judes, sorry about that. Try this link;

    Kris Allen behind the scenes video of the AI promo we have yet to see.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lST1tOXonzw

    I know this is really late & this thread is probably dead but I couldn’t get on here yesterday so I just needed to say thanks to tripp_ncwy for putting this extra link of Kris’s video which I can now view!! Its so good to see the behind the scenes of these videos .

  158. Sometimes I wonder if the relative indifference displayed by RCA during the latter half of DCTR’s shelf life and Adam’s weird singles roll out have less to do with their individual merits and more to do with the fact that they had the same A&R guy at RCA.

    I don’t think so. I mean, I am among those who think RCA made some serious errors in the single releases of DCTR, but that’s not the A&R team. The A&R guys work with the artist and producer in developing the album, song selection based on demos, and ultimately track selection (i.e., they record more than they need, then only a dozen to 14 w/bonus tracks make the album). Cook has stated (as has his guitarist Neal Tiemann who played on every track) that he is happy with his A&R team. A completely different marketing team decides on singles. I never felt, and still do not feel, that RCA neglected David; I still feel that all decisions were made based on research and with good intent (they’re in the business to make money, not lose money). None-the-less, labels make mistakes and research can be flawed (or just not pan out). So when Michael Jackson died and his music threw the charts into disarray, and then CBTM suddenly dropped at the end of the summer, DCTR suddenly dropped off the BB200. THAT is what, IMO, led to the business decision of no more singles from DCTR. No single to promote then meant far fewer media appearances until the next album (or at least the lead off single) drops.

    OK, that was a long post lol! Bottom line, blame the marketing team that decides singles, not the A&R guys. I believe all can be pinned to the release of CBTM and the fact that it seemed to stop driving album sales toward the end of the summer.

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