David Cook Still Under Fire from Doxology

Doxology, the Seattle band that claims David Cook ripped off their  arrangement of The Beatles “Eleanor Rigby” without credit has issued yet another press release.     Meanwhile, Chris Cornell gives an interview to Billboard about David covering his arrangement of   “Billie Jean”.

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Both Cornell and Doxology believe David Cook performed note for note copies of their arrangements.  

I’m not a musicologist, but note for note?   Really?

Entertainment Weekly’s Hollywood Insider covers the Doxology  story:  

For more, click on the jump

Thanks Cheese, for the links…

In a statement issued to the press on Saturday, lead vocalist Luke McPherson contends, “When given the opportunity to speak up and reveal where the arrangement came from, David Cook did not. His silence on the issue implies that the arrangement is his own. It is not.” The band is careful to note that they are fans of the show and they are not seeking royalties   (which they would have earned off of iTunes sales had their name been mentioned on air). Their impetus: “We just want David Cook and American Idol to do the right thing and acknowledge these facts. It’s that simple.” Whether Cook was actually aware of their version is still unclear as representatives for Fox could not be reached for comment over the weekend.

Is Chris Cornell earning royalties from David’s recorded version of the song? I didn’t think he was.

And from  Doxology’s press release:

The compensation we are asking for is the easiest and least expensive around ‘ we, at minimum, want David Cook and/or American Idol to admit that the arrangement he performed on March 11th, and then went into the studio and recorded for immediate sale, was not only inspired by, but almost completely carbon copied from our arrangement.

They want David Cook to admit that he ripped off their song note for note.   I don’t think that’s going to happen.   I also don’t think TPTB   are going to  allot Idol  airtime to the discussion of an obscure band.   Blake Lewis has said in interviews that David Cook told him that his acknowledgement to the band was cut out of his package.  

David himself has not spoken on the issue. We’ll see what happens.

In the meantime, Doxology’s continued pressing of the subject is keeping it out in the news cycle.   They’ve gotten Doxology’s name out there and are keeping it out there.   Good strategy.   Even if Idol never addresses the issue, it’s still a win for the band.

Chris Cornell, whose arrangement of “Billie Jean”  inspired David Cook’s performance (and who also gave David his blessing)    recently  spoke to   Billboard:

Interest has since spiked in the Cornell cover, a drastically stripped-down take on the song that appeared on his 2007 solo album “Carry On.” There was a 300% jump in blog chatter about the Cornell’s connection to the performance the following day, according to data from Nielsen BuzzMetrics. The track is also currently No. 12 on iTunes’ Top Alternative chart.

“This is something where they know I came up with this arrangement and reinvented the song, ” he says. “I stuck my neck out being a guy that comes from the indie rock world doing a Michael Jackson song. You can clearly see that the judges are giving this guy credit for it on national television. My fans were like, ‘Wait a minute! That’s Chris Cornell’s moment.'”

“Don’t get me wrong. He sang it great, ” he continues. “But it was literally a note-for-note take on what I came up with. At the end of the day, it’s all good. It’s a good thing for me. There was a moment when I was sitting there writing this new arrangement thinking, ‘Is this a good idea or a bad idea?’ Watching the response from the judges was really gratifying. They were signing off on it right there. It was something that worked. It was an idea that went over huge. When I play it live on tour, it brings the house down every time.”

Cornell is extremely pleased with the attention and publicity, but obviously has mixed feelings about David as an artist.   He clearly feels there was zero originality in David’s interpretation, and that the judges were giving David credit that really belonged to Cornell.   Hm.

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  1. I can understand that the Billie Jean cover by Cornell is original but I didn’t think Eleanor Rigby was all that different from the original and don’t understand the band making such a big deal about it.

  2. Eh, why can’t I muster up some sort of righteous indignation over this, at least in principle? I guess it’s because I really just don’t give a f*ck about what cover of a cover any of them does.

  3. This quote sorta summed it up for me from the EW comments section as the David C fans are going into overdrive:

    “Sorry, one more thing…I think a lot of you are naive about how much of a stranglehold some of these huge record labels have on the industry. It’s not just as simple as “..if their cover of the song was any good then they would be known and not have to wait for some wannabe singer on idol to make it popular.” Maybe they didn’t want to sell out and sign with a big label, which is virtually the only way they would “become known” because how big media and the radio stations shut out indie artists (no matter how GOOD they are). Does that mean they deserve to get ripped off by Idol too?!? You people need to open your eyes a little bit – we live in the U$A, and it’s mostly run by monopolies. Doxology is just standing up for itself (bravo!) and David Cook is stuck in the middle.”

  4. At first I doubted that David would’ve known of Doxology’s version of the song, but I think in the video package about doing the studio recordings of their songs that ran during the last results show, David said he’ll do research on iTunes and find a version of a song that fits the theme & suits his style, so after seeing that it doesn’t seem so impossible. Still, Doxology sound like huge famewhores to me. I doubt AI will give them the recognition they desire…their best hope is for David to do a random shout-out to them during a results show or something. :lol_wp:

    I like Doxology’s music; I’d checked them out before because of Blake. Maybe they should take matters into their own hands and try out for the next season of NGAB!

  5. I think at this point the boys of Doxology are being a$$hats. You said your thing, you were miffed, the show didn’t give you credit for it being your version. Pushing it and issuing more press releases makes you look desperate!! Cook can’t control what they put in his opening bits’n pieces, don’t take it out on him and don’t expect AI to rehash it, it’s putting them in the media as well…… controversy is TPTB’s second, no, most favorite thing.

  6. I just hope Doxology is about to put out a great original song — or another brilliant and unexpected cover-of-a-cover, in other words, a hit of some kind.

    Otherwise, they are, like so many do, mistaking notoriety for stardom. They better be cutting the record of their lives if they are going to spend time trying to split David Cook’s 15 minutes. Otherwise,. it’s just an exercise in publicity and viral TMZ-ism.

  7. Okay….dumb question.

    But….isn’t this a song that they probably have to get clearance for? I doubt that the Doxology or CC version of the said songs was on the short list of songs they are able to choose from. Don’t they have to get clearance from the artist?

    So in that case…what are they complaining about? IF they didn’t okay it, I would be a bit upset understandably, but obviously this is no shock to them since they knew he was performing it on a show where everyone sings covers? I’m no sure I understand their pissed attitude.

    If nothing else I would think they would be thankful, because aren’t sales of the original songs increased normally? I mean I’m not sure if the Doxology or CC version of the songs David covered are being bought of iTunes anymore frequently…

    But this whole “issue” just bothers me.

  8. I’m also with Sarah on this.

    Thank you for posting the articles though, mj, and for letting us read from both sides of the issue.

  9. I just hope David Cook can put out a great original song à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ 
    They’re all on their 15 minutes of fame. Let’s check back in a year and we’ll see how they’re both doing…and if anyone still cares.

  10. Geez, you would think I’m David’s C.’s #1 fan for even writing this entry…

    This issue seems to be getting out of hand. American Idol is essentially a “covers” show. Period. None of the contestants are singing original music. David C. is smart for finding songs with a new spin that suits his style and he is getting rewarded for that. I don’t think he should get slammed at all. He’s one of the most interesting contestants in a long time. Honestly, I like him better than I ever liked Daughtry.

    I think the real blame goes to the judges for laying the praise on a little too think. Plus, their choice of words made David look like the messiah – which he is not. He’s just a good rock singer that has the potential to win this contest.

  11. Okay, so if someone on idol sings a song on the show and they leave it just like the original version (not a cover mind you, but the very first arrangement ever done of the song) then the idol only gets a comment or two from the judges, not the entire world.

    Why should doing a cover be any different? Because they took a risk and performed a cover of the song in the same manner that the cover was done – therefore they should be called out and all hell should break loose? Come on….

  12. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m also with Sarah on this.

    Ditto

    To me, it’s just a non-issue. Arrangements aren’t copy-righted. He’s not breaking any rules. Acknowledging the people who gave him inspiration is a nice idea, but hardly necessary. No one has ever given a shout out to Eva Cassidy for the upteen times her arrangements have been plagiarized on this show.

    And, I quibble with the “note for note” argument on both counts. I also believe part of the problem may be in how much better he performed these versions than the original musical geniouses did (that’s just my opinion though).

    So in that caseà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦what are they complaining about? IF they didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t okay it, I would be a bit upset understandably, but obviously this is no shock to them since they knew he was performing it on a show where everyone sings covers? Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m no sure I understand their pissed attitude.

    Songs need to be cleared only with the party that owns the rights to the song. No clearance is required from the numerous artists who’ve covered the songs later. I agree – what’s to be pissed about? Your mad someone may have copied your version of someone else’s song?

    The real issue with the Doxology guys is that Chris Cornell’s mention on TV got him a bunch of new iTunes downloads. They want that same reaction – it’s about the $$$. (Even though again – I don’t think their version is as good as David C’s – so I’m not sure they would have had the same kind of sales bump as Chris Cornell).

  13. Songs need to be cleared only with the party that owns the rights to the song. No clearance is required from the numerous artists whoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve covered the songs later. I agree – whatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s to be pissed about? Your mad someone may have copied your version of someone elseà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s song?

    Thanks for clearing that up…I wasn’t sure if the artist that was being covered had to have clearance as well. But yes, I don’t understand…why are you mad at someone covering your cover?

    Alas, it’s all pretty stupid. and I agree that Doxology just are famewhores.

  14. I don’t blame David for this. He IS in the middle. And I don’t blame Doxology or Chris Cornell or anyone else who has their work covered. They SHOULD get credit/publicity for their hard work.

    I do blame both the show AND the judges – they could easily flash the credit right before the idols perform. And one of the judges should mention it – “you did a great job with Cornell’s verion of BJ”.

    It’s not only unfair to the artist who came up with the arrangement, it unfairly sways the vote (most people only know MJ’s version of BJ and think, wow David Cook is awesome for changing it up), but it’s also unfair to the idol that gets a bad rap for doing nothing wrong.

  15. I just hope David Cook can put out a great original song à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ 
    Theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re all on their 15 minutes of fame. Letà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s check back in a year and weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll see how theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re both doingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦and if anyone still cares.

    I think Analog Heart proves his potential for writing original and appealing material. I know I’ll be looking forward to DC getting signed (win or lose AI) and putting out another CD. Hopefully with more of his original music.

    They don’t let the contestants sing their own original compositions on AI. Some of them couldn’t write a song if their life depended on it. I think DC could do his own rocked-up cover of any song he would sing on AI, if he had enough time.

    I can tell you one thing, none of this fuss makes me want to go out and buy a Doxology CD or MP3. Not at all.

    ETA: And one would think Chris Cornell would be a bigger man about all this. Petty.

  16. Wow, Cook has mad google and itunes skills. How did he find out the cover of a seattle band on th first place? That’s a small band right?

    But because that is a small band, maybe they feel more robbed by this big Idol machine?

  17. This is getting ridiculous. agree with y’all. All the songs are covers of “someone’s” arrangements. Do they have to acknowledge that on every song, or only on songs they do really really well on and/or have a better take on? Or if the judges like the version’s originality from the orig.version do they have to state which version was which and …….

  18. Wow, Cook has mad google and itunes skills. How did he find out the cover of a seattle band on th first place? Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a small band right?

    Well, if you do a search for “Eleanor Rigby” on iTunes, Doxology’s version comes up 5th (at least on mine it does).

  19. These people have maybe a few hours to come up with an arrangement for their song – expecting those arrangements to all be original is just too much. Most of the time, they have no choice but to cover the song as it was originally done, or to find someone else’s interpretation. This has happened oodles of times on this show – in many seasons. I mean Fantasia’s version of Summertime certainly wasn’t like the original. So – I assume she took inspiration from one of the later (estimated 2,600) versions.

    Maybe the arrangement stealing reaction only occurs when the arrangement brings a song from one genre to another?

    But again – Eleanor Rigby has been covered hundreds, if not thousands of times. No one has ownership over rearranging the notes of a song created by someone else.

    I’m all for the protection of intellectual property – but that assumes that you are the person who created the property in the first place. Not just some guy who created your own version of someone else’s intellectual property.

    If someone found inspiration in the way you performed a song, maybe you should just see that as a compliment and move on. These are young people on a TV game show for crying out loud. To make an issue of this is petty. But, it is indeed brilliant PR. And I think that’s precisely the point. Somehow I think the exposure trumps their moral indignation.

  20. I’d like to hear it out of David Cook’s own mouth.

    I just listened to his version again.
    I listened to both versions Dox has on the myspace,
    and I listened to Cookie again.
    I don’t think his arrangement is anything like theirs.
    Dox did more of a karaoke version of the song.
    Cookie changed it up a lot more than they did.
    They didn’t do that great big note (anywhere in the song) that he did at the end.
    The only thing they seem to have in common is that they seem to be indie rockers.

    I don’t think David copied them. I don’t trust Blake Lewis. I’ll have to hear it out of David Cook’s own mouth to believe it.

  21. I think the real blame goes to the judges for laying the praise on a little too thick.

    Exactly. That’s what happened. They made it sound like David invented that arrangement when in fact Chris Cornell did.

    Maybe the arrangement stealing reaction only occurs when the arrangement brings a song from one genre to another?

    This year is the only time Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve seen it happen, and actually Chris Cornellà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fans started it, not himself, and I think it was only because the judges appeared to give David the credit for having come up with that arrangement all on his own.

    In the Doxology incident, I think they’ve been smokin’ too much crack, as my kids would say.

    By the way, when a contestant sings the song exactly like the original, they call it KARAOKE.

  22. Can’t wait to hear who is going to get their panties in a bunch when someone does a cover of a cover that Dolly Parton did. This is getting all so confusing!

  23. It’s really just the perception that matters. The judges have been raving about David’s originality and if people believe them and hear about this, it might damage him but I doubt it would. The only reason Chris Daughtry came under fire for I walk the Line was that Live’s fans were mad that there was no mention. It was cut but they didn’t know. It worked out pretty well for him in the long run and he even got to sing a song with Live in the finale.

  24. I’m sorry, but since when did Chris Cornell need affirmation from the likes of Paula Abdul? Pathetic, and petty, especially since Ryan made it clear in the intro that it was Cornell’s arrangement. It’s certainly not David’s fault that the judges took it the wrong way. But it’s kind of sad to hear a supposed grunge god whining because he was overlooked by a former member of Journey, a “singer” who once dueted with MC Skat Kat, and a Teletubbies producer. I mean, nothing against Idol and the judges, but Cornell has been successful enough that he really shouldn’t care.

  25. By the way I don’t believe in Blake either. How did he know anything behind the scenes or what is cut? Unless we see the interview package before that show, I would doubt it.

  26. Cornell is extremely pleased with the attention and publicity, but obviously has mixed feelings about David as an artist. He clearly feels there was zero originality in Davidà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s interpretation, and that the judges were giving David credit that really belonged to Cornell. Hm.

    Maybe they should put up a number to vote for Chris Cornell this week? Maybe he’ll make an appearance on the show and he and David can have a “Billie Jean” throw down. I guarantee America would think that David sings it much purdier. He probably just wants to pimp the new CD he’s recording with Timbaland.

    I don’t think David was even mic’d when Pauler and Randy were giving him his tonguebath for originality, and hell he shouldn’t have to stand up there and say “I’m not original! STFU Pauler! after he’s just given a performance in front of 25 million people.” I don’t know what else he could have done. Making Pauler and Randy understand and absorb simple information about what people are singing must be a really gargantuan task.

    David’s recorded version does veer more from Cornell’s than the 90 second version, IMO.

  27. I heard the interview Blake said that in…he had spoken with David about it, and that is what David told him.

    But ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s kind of sad to hear a supposed grunge god whining because he was overlooked by a former member of Journey, a à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“singerà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  who once dueted with MC Skat Kat, and a Teletubbies producer.

    :lol_tb: I agree.

  28. Alright…I broke down and listened to BOTH Doxology’s version and David Cook’s…….and…….I SEE NO SIMILARITY.

    Doxology is TRIPPING.

  29. Apparently that was a fluke….

    Anyway, what I said was…I broke down and listened to both Doxology’s version and David’s version….and I see NO similarity…..

  30. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m all for the protection of intellectual property – but that assumes that you are the person who created the property in the first place. Not just some guy who created your own version of someone elseà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s intellectual property.

    Gah! I agree! They never mention whose version of a song a singer sings. Except, on the rare occasion that Luther Vandross did it. What is it about “rockers” and “indie rockers” that cause them to be so sensitive and exclusive? David Cook can’t do their version of someone else’s song because he’s on American Idol? I, too think Doxology is just looking for attention.

  31. I’m drooling in the mouth for the next person who calls David Cook original…cuz i’m gunna jump on you like a spider-monkey and laugh in your face.

    there is nothing wrong with doing cover’s of covers but here’s what Mr. Cook does wrong: numb 1- the cover’s he does are of obscure bands and he is hoping that since very very few people have heard that version, than he can walk away from it with all the glory of his original take (but it only takes 1 person to have heard it bucko). numb 2- HE DOESN”T GIVE THEM CREDIT AFTER HE PREFORMS. so basically, when PRS say, “dude i dont care what what song you pick you always find a way to rock it out and give us an original take on it”- he freaking nods like “yeah thats all me baby. i’m so awesome” (then he gives us that smug look…grrrr) thats all it took davo cook, a simply, “i got that arrangement from so-and-so”…then u’d be cool…somewhat…minus the whole crossword puzzle thing.

  32. the coverà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s he does are of obscure bands and he is hoping that since very very few people have heard that version, than he can walk away from it with all the glory of his original take

    Really?? Have you talked to David Cook personally about this and know his motives? I’d really like to ask some questions, since you seem to know him so well! Got a few minutes??

    And when the fuck was the last time that Chris Cornell was actually considered “obscure”? Maybe about, say, 10, 15 years ago?

    David Cook, I hope to god you’re reading this because it has been decreed – After you perform, step aside, and take the mic. Then, before the judges even start on their critique, please for the love of GOD, break down your song selection process including EVERY possible arrangement that you considered and give credit to EVERY band that you even listened to a 30 second clip on iTunes. Then, personally say that you’ll donate X amount of money to the artist whose arrangement you chose to perform, since the ONLY thing this is about is the money.

    I personally would find it highly stimulating and informative. :rolleyes_wp:

  33. If he’d have butchered any of the songs, all of this would be a non-issue. But he rocked them, better than the guys whose cover he covered. That fact and the respective reactions speak volumes.

    @Sarah – No doubt!

  34. I think David Cook is original……

    1- Yes he picks obscure, never heard on AI before covers and does credit them. CC and Whitesnake were both credited. Doxology, quite frankly I don’t agree that they are the same, so in my opinion no harm no foul.

    2- What other idol gives credit AFTER they perform??? i have yet to hear that out of any of their mouths. Why does DC have to do it and not Little D or Syesha, or jason??? Smugness…I agree a couple of weeks ago but I didn’t see it this week. I saw a guy nervous that what he just did would go over like a lead balloon. Or as Simon said….Insane or Amazing.

    So Jump away…I’m a big girl I can take it

  35. If heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d have butchered any of the songs, all of this would be a non-issue. But he rocked them, better than the guys whoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s cover he covered. That fact and the respective reactions speak volumes.

    EXACTLY, CJ.

    Oh well…no publicity is bad publicity, right?

  36. dukesterathlete – #1 is just your opinion, and #2 is just plain silly. Ryan spelled it out for everyone watching, and please don’t give me that “omg but he said it so fast i don’t think i heard it” bs.

    I wish Blake had just taken a minute to get in touch with David to find out he gave credit but it got cut out of the video package – BEFORE he went off on David for “stealing” Doxology’s version. I adore blake, but sheeeesh.

    I agree that maybe 1 press release was Doxology legitimately trying to draw attention to the issue, but 2 press releases, 3 weeks after the fact, and just *coincidentally* after Chris Cornell made his backhanded statement about BJ just to make sure everyone knew to look up/buy his record…is famewhoring.

  37. why canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t I muster up some sort of righteous indignation over this, at least in principle? I guess ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s because I really just donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t give a f*ck about what cover of a cover any of them does.

    I’m with sarah. I just can’t make myself care about doxology’s whining. i mean, i guess i kind of get it…but who cares?!?

    while reading the doxology press release, i swear i could hear syesha’s baby cry in my head.

  38. I really have no say in this matter at all.
    This may happen to him and yes he does come off as a little smug on camera I do not know him:
    1st-David c will be under the microscope of some for song choses.
    2nd-catch 22 when it comes to presentation- if he rocks to much some want something else or if he does something else some may want him to rock because thats him.
    I think some will vote for him because of what happened which is sort of bad.

    The whole thing is rediculous so it can happen to David A and probably others but not David C even if not at fault? That is rediculous even if the arguement may seem silly.

  39. Regarding David c taking the mic and explaining all to folks at home – idols have little time to talk back to the judges and they probably only hear every other word that the judges say anyway. For the small probability that David C is hoping he can dupe all of us dummies, I say Hooray! What A Performer! :clap_tb:

    I’m glad that some idols mix it up and give a different spin on a song, even if they didn’t invent the spin.

  40. Welcome to Holleywood thing are bown out of portionand unfiar and really silly things happen when your in the spotlight. I dislike most of it …and part of me is wondering why this is an issue but I guess controversey brings people.

  41. I’m surprised no one can see through this.

    This is an obvious attempt by the Stage Dad to throw up a smoke screen denying DavidC the covedted AI title. And his son DavidA is the beneificiary.

    That’s my story line anyway, so the plot is thickening.

  42. You belong in the grassy knoll blog. LOL! I doubt that, J.S.G., since his son has done a few uncredited covers or covers himself. :laugh_tb:

  43. This is an obvious attempt by the Stage Dad to throw up a smoke screen denying DavidC the covedted AI title. And his son DavidA is the beneificiary.

    Well, if true then David A’s dad is even more warped than I thought.

  44. while reading the doxology press release, i swear i could hear syeshaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s baby cry in my head.

    That right there cracked me up.

    Oh – and JSG’s stage dad theory is pretty damn funny too.

  45. LMAO JSG. Of course!! That’s it! DCook won’t take Creepy Stage Dad’s shit on the set, so CSD resorts to a smear campaign. ;)

  46. *smacks myself on the forehead….*

    J.S.G. You nailed it. It has been there right in front of all of us all this time. I bow to you my friend. :)

  47. I’ve listened to Doxology’s ER, and I still don’t like it. And, somehow that “defense” from Chris Cornell’s is still sounding like a backhanded compliment. He says that David copied the arrangement note-for-note, but I don’t think so. David still sounds better. This is getting fishy, and I wonder if TPTB will address it and/or allow him to address it, or if they continue to allow DC to reap the “benefits” of negative press.

  48. I know a lot of indie bands and I relate with their frustration. They put a lot of work into that and then they didn’t even get their name mentioned. That, however, is not in any way David Cook’s fault. The producers of the show have control over what is and is not said, and they decide what to edit out of pre-performance interviews, etc.

    But guess what? It was a blessing in disguise. Doxology says they don’t care about the royalties. Well, now everyone knows where the arrangement came from, so they need to suck it up because this little mishap just happened to make them famous.

  49. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m drooling in the mouth for the next person who calls David Cook originalà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦cuz ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m gunna jump on you like a spider-monkey and laugh in your face.

    Dukester, I’m going to go ahead and call him original every day that I visit here. Just so you can laugh in my face. It’s the least I can do to give you a happy day. :smile_wp:

  50. CJ’s right. Cook did a fantastic job and anytime you’re good people will say, hey that sounds just like me, that’s my arrangement etc. I don’t see anyone rushing to claim Kristy’s version of ‘8 Days a Week’ as their own.

    At this point I’d be willing to credit Doxology with every song that’s ever been written if they’d just shut up. Sheesh.

  51. I wonder why I am here I give up..The butler did it w/ help from the maid.

  52. Geeze are these guys for real. Next thing you know they’ll be typing up a press release saying Paul McCartney needs to give them credit for their mediocre “arrangement” Uh… you know, Paul McCartney, the guy who actually wrote the song.

  53. I wonder why I am here I give up..The butler did it w/ help from the maid.

    No. No. No. No. It’s WAY more complex than that. Clearly, this reeks of the evil hand of Nigel…puppet-master extraordinaire!!!!!111!!!ELEVENTY-ONE!!!!

    First, there was Carlyplant. Nigel had PAs by the hundreds sifting through Irish Pubs throughout the nation until he found the fabled chanteuse. What could be better than an artist who had become the poster-girl for record label excess? A teenager who had burned through more cash than most of us even dream of winning in the lotto? A woman who is not even an American!!!!! Then, throw in a big ass tattoo of Amy Winehouse and a husband that looked like he escaped from the circus and …VIOLA…that thing that Nigel craves…that thing that brings the press…that thing that ramps the water cooler chatter up to 11….SCANDAL!!!!!!

    But wait. People did not care. There was no ground swell of anger to get her booted from the show. The ladies of The View were not morally outraged. No mob with torches and pitchforks descended on the studio. In fact, people felt sorry for the poor desperate girl….STRIKE ONE.

    But Nigel is wiley. He has more than one trick up his sleave.

    He had pretty-boys by the half-dozens. None of them could sing worth a damn. Luke! Garrett! Colton! Robbie! (okay, that last guy is not that cute). Surely one of those vocally challenged dudes would find a fan base of eager young tweeners and assorted other voters who would VOTE! VOTE! VOTE! their cutey into the next Sanjaya scandal. Surely, VFTW would see how bad they were and pick them for their posterboy.

    But wait! The pretty boys all went the way of the dodo. People had suddenly stopped giving a face a break. They were all gone as soon as they should be. The press did not bemoan their presence. Nobody said “Sanjaya Part Deux”. Nada….STRIKE TWO.

    But, like the subject of so many children’s stories…Nigel would just try, try again.

    A one-two punch. Danny, with his questionable Christmas greeting that was unlikely to get him a job at Hallmark and David H, the gay male stripper. Surely, that would get the heartland in a stir. Surely, somebody somewhere would burn a big old pile of iPods to protest. Maybe that guy with the weirdo church who protests at soldiers funerals could be enticed to be in the studio audience. Surely, these two could get some traction.

    But, no. What is this? How can this be? The country has grown compassionate. Danny is just a boy who needs some attention and “it was a good thing they didn’t have youtube when I was a kid”. And David, why poor David just did what many have done before when they needed a few bucks to survive.

    Nigel was stunned. But he was not out.

    David A has a stage Dad from Hell!!!! But Evil CBS would not play along and people just felt sorry for the kid.

    Michael Johns stole songs from his former band!!!! Yawn.

    Kristy is the new Haley!!! She’ll be gone in time and seems kind of sweet.

    David Cooks is the new Chris-D-Arranging-Stealing-Scumbag! HOME RUN!!! Wooo!!!! Bribe Blake with letting him sing on the show if he’ll claim some nobody band in Seattle had come up with that ER arrangement. Get Randy and Paula to quote from the “You are So Original” script. Get Ryan to interview the ripped off bands. And there you go…instant water cooler chatter.

    Nigel is smoking a cigarette right now.

    LOL. No tinfoil hats were harmed during the writing of this post.

  54. Hey dukester,
    can u introduce David C to me since you know him and how he thinks so well. I would like to meet him.
    If he bombed those songs, no one would care. He, however, made them sound better than the original “stealer” so it now is an issue. The three judges should have a sheet in front of them with every song the contestant is doing and all the pertinent info about the song. That would solve all this extra curricular crap.
    Wonder what would happen if one of the contestents took a piece of a song by the beatles, used a little riff from Bob Dylan, put a little diddy by Mellencamp, added some Aretha rhythm, and added some Gladys without the Pips,and followed up with some falsetto a la the Bee Gees all in one song. Now, credit all that!

  55. Oh – this is a FUN thread to read!!! Idol is FUN this year – we are invested again and I can’t wait for tomorrow night!!!!! I can’t wait to hear what song David C will pick and I hope that Jason ups his game and that KLC sucks!

  56. I heart Kirsten!
    Whenever I see a post of yours, you ALWAYS make me LOL! :clap_tb:

  57. Ha ha! Good ‘un, Kirsten.

    Nigel is smoking a cigarette right now.

    But surely Nigel owns a cigar factory, if not all of Cuba, after all those commercial breaks?

  58. I like David Cook and I dont care whose cover he sings..he does it well imo! Loving me some Jason Castro too..its a good year for Idol. :)

  59. When I saw David’s performance, I thought that HE came up with the arrangement.

  60. Claudette was a keeper. I always loved when they showed her in the audience or in E’s clips. What a loving, sweet lady. May you rest in peace Claudette.

  61. Dammit, I wish I hadn’t come here to see this. Claudette was a doll. Wow, she has the same name as my Mommy. RIP.

  62. Peeps are talking about Claudette in the headlines thread…lets keep this thread focused on David Cook. Thank you.

  63. i like to imagine that doxology’s, what, 37th press release on this matter is an april fool’s joke.

    because, you know, HAHAHA, bitches.

  64. I think Doxology gets exactly what they want. They keep sending out press releases because they keep getting picked up by blogs and news blogs. People are checking out their myspace page and tunes and they are happy. I think their hope is to get picked up by Entertainment Tonight or one of those so they can get on the show, maybe play their version etc. I don’t think they will go away as long as they are generating interest, any interest. Look at the number of comments on this thread.

  65. We’ve obviously all heard of this because we pay attention but am not so sure the general audience has a clue about this so called controversy.

    I wanted to listen to Doxology’s version but instead found this video that takes the covers that David was supposed to have used and plays bits of them back to back. The only thing about the Doxology cover that gave me pause was that the AI band seemed to copy their sound. I still don’t think this is a big deal unless it’s made to be one and doubt it’s going to hurt him at all.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=W1ZJBGeLpLg

  66. OK, I’m SICK of this topic.

    David Archuleta’s version of Be The Voice? Is just in a different key from the originial, AND is basically NOTE FOR NOTE identical to the recent remake.

    Michael John’s version of We Will Rock You/ We Are The Champions? ALMOST EXACTLY THE SAME as the arrangement from the Queen musical that was produced a few years ago.

    This happens EVERY WEEK FOLKS. Every week. It only becomes a problem for people when someone knocks it out of the park.

  67. Doxowhorelogy: Look at meeeeeeeeeee. Pay attention to meeeeeeeeeeee.

    I’ll bet their version of Eleanor Rigby comes up high on search after all the ruckus.

    And I wonder if these guys heard Godhead’s version.

  68. GwendolynD à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ Youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re right. It WASNà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢T note for note, though it was close.

    Natasha
    I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see anyone rushing to claim Kristyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s version of à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹8 Days a Weekà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ as their own.

    :devil_tb: tee-hee
    Pauler did mention that it was the Lorrie Morgan version.
    http://undercoverblackman.vox.com/library/audio/6a00cd970f81104cd500e398e51a640004.html

    Kirsten à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ :wub_tb:

    Wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t someone complaining there wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t enough controversy this year? This spices it up a little anyway.

    bean99
    The only thing about the Doxology cover that gave me pause was that the AI band seemed to copy their sound.

    See, now, I couldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t hear any similarity that wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t derived from the Beatles.

    jenk à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ You are so right. NOBODY ever gives Michael Johns any flack for singing karaoke.

    Hey! When do we get tonight’s spoilers anyway?
    WE WANT SPOILERS!! WE WANT SPOILERS!! WE WANT SPOILERS!!

  69. The Beatles version of Eleanor Rigby had violins and not guitars, Sciencefan. Not a big deal but different.

  70. Hey, newbie here. I mentioned this on another messageboard.

    Regarding the David Cook “controversy”, I might have a theory on why he’s getting all the negative response while others like Syesha and David A are immune. It could have to do with his choice of genre. Think about it, the same thing happen to Chris with the Live version of Walk The Line in season 5, but not to Elliot when he sang the Donnie Hathaway version of I Believe In My Soul. My feeling is that it sums up to the fact that David C. is a rocker on Idol, that’s a strike one to the rock community’s eyes. They feel that a rocker should be an individual with their own stylr and sound as well as create their own arrangement, play instruments, write their own music. Anything that’s against their ideal, like AI, is considered blasphemous and not authentic. In their own minds, David C. is not a “real” rocker, or a poseur for a better term. For R&B fans, it doesn’t matter where they get the arrangement, as long as they perform well. For Pop, it’s about the image. To Rock fans, Idol, like Pop lacks substance and legitimacy. Any “so-called” rocker that enters Idol is considered a phoney. In their opinion, thy see it as “Now he’s trying to be a rocker by ‘stealing’ real musicians arrangements and get the credit, how dare he!!” That also comes from music elitism and snobbery. They are soo adamant about a musician having “rock cred” that anyone that doesn’t fit the requirements, like being on Idol is not the real deal.
    Me on the other hand, love every kinds of music. If I tell you my playlist, you would think I was musically schizo. So for me, it doesn’t matter whether you were discovered at a local bar or auditioned on Idol. As long as they make great music and I love it, I’m a fan for life. It does matter if they have “street or rock cred”. If you suck, you suck.

  71. I think people are pissed because he’s talented and is doing such a good job. Success results in negativity from some. Probably quite a few are fans of another contestant.

    I don’t think Cook is doing anything that the other finalists aren’t doing. He’s just doing it better.

  72. Is it Dick’s – ology?

    David’s banging out these “different” rock arrangements week after week, and I agree Natasha, he’s just doing it better. Good for him!

    Now, honestly, I can’t beleive he’s really arranging these things by himself – isn’t it a group effort with the band?

  73. AI6 Nicole Tranquillo with Dice Raw, and the Roots at Carneige Mellon University, Pittsburgh, PA April 17th, 7pm

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