Danny Gokey in Talks with Sony Nashville

According to Brian Mansfield at USA Today, Danny Gokey met with a couple of record labels in Nashville on Tuesday, including Sony Nashville, home to Kellie Pickler and Carrie Underwood.

Danny twittered  about his trip to  Nashville early this week and actually let the cat out of the bag about his upcoming meetings with 19R and Sony a couple of weeks ago.

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In a recent radio interview with Milwaukee’s  101 QLF, Danny said, “Ideally, I would like to do my own little fusion of R&B and Latin’ ¦ but I would be open to do modern-soul country.”   Danny stressed that he would not be making a contemporary Christian album at this point in his career.

“I’m planning on writing a lot for my album, ” Danny says, “I’ve already started a few things.”

Is a signing announcement for Danny coming soon? I’ll be watching for it…

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195 Comments

  1. Someone has to sign Danny. After all he has all of those stadiums to fill, lol. Seriously, I am now inclined to agree that the Danny pimping was all smoke and mirrors and that someone else was always intended to win. Just not Adam either, or he wouldn’t have been Huffed. Hmmmm. Now I started something, wanna be startin’ something, got to be starting something, yeah, yeah…….but I have to leave…..work to do……lol.

  2. uhh.. so if he does get a record deal and writes also, doesn’t this mean it probably won’t be released into early next year maybe? Kradison had a month head start and they had more time to do other stuff during rehearsal.

    heh, watch them pull a Kristy Lee Cook on him in which they give him a bunch of songs to sing and he ends up releasing the album first.

  3. This leads me to the question, does the music industry really need another mediocre singer? especially who until very recently knew very little about music?

    Danny is the Joe The Plumber of the music industry.

  4. I’m surprised that Danny would give so much information about what is going on. He should stay mum until it happens. So not cool to talk about it. Then again, this is his first business deal!

    I have my own business, and I’ve learned that until a deal is signed (and the money is in your hand), you don’t really have anything! The whole thing could blow up or fall apart, and then he’ll have to explain everything. Ugh!

    On the other hand, he is doing a great job accumulating followers on Twitter. There is a lot of power in social media if you can create a following and then leverage it.

    Then again, I’m only following Danny on Twitter because he might say something about Adam. I’m not really interested in anything else he posts. There must be others who are doing the same thing.

  5. uhh.. so if he does get a record deal and writes also, doesn’t this mean it probably won’t be released into early next year maybe? Kradison had a month head start and they had more time to do other stuff during rehearsal.

    Not necessarily. Kellie’s deal wasn’t announced until after the tour started and she wrote some of the songs on her album and still managed to have the first album out of the gate that season (and the second most successful album of her Idol season).

    Some people are fast writers. Elton John has said that if it takes him more than 30 minutes to come up with a melody that goes along with Bernie Taupin’s lyrics, he tosses the song aside.

    That said, I don’t think that Danny would be heavily involved in the songwriting process. I don’t think we have any evidence that he excels at arranging songs so that would seem to indicate that he might not be able to come up with his own melodies. That would leave him with working on the lyrcis and even then, I’m a bit suspect of his skills (having listened to how difficult it is for him to convey his thoughts during interviews…perhaps he would do better writing lyrics in his room though). I bet that he would be more likely help polish the songs, if you know what I mean.

    Get him a good producer who will provide the focus and have him record his voice to the nearly finished track and Bob’s your Uncle. Album ready in October.

    Not saying that is what will happen, but it is what could happen.

  6. I think that Danny has gotten signed already and that there will eventually be an announcement about it. But I don’t know if he signed with Sony Nashville or if he signed with the other record company he met with.

    If he signed with Sony Nashville, I think that we hear an announcement either today or tomorrow. If he signed with the other record label, I don’t think that we will hear about it until some time after the tour is over.

    Either way, good for him, if he got signed. I think that he is a pretty good singer, and I will definitely continue to support him and buy his music.

  7. Country artist…I saw that coming. I think that a Rascal Flatts type sound would work for him.

  8. Then again, I’m only following Danny on Twitter because he might say something about Adam. I’m not really interested in anything else he posts. There must be others who are doing the same thing.

    There are people that are doing the same for all of the idols. I know that I’m not interested in Kris musically, although I do like him as a person, but I’m following him anyway. This is not something that only applies to Danny.

  9. This leads me to the question, does the music industry really need another mediocre singer?

    I think Danny was the second best singer this season….only behind Adam. However, I enjoy the sound quality of Danny’s voice more than Adam’s. Danny is not a mediocre singer, that would be Kris. Although I will say that Kris has other talents to go along with his singing, but as a singer…..mediocre.

  10. LOL Sunn!

    Reading tea leaves, I say that Danny is being difficult and, as a result, may not be signed. Even with the little musical knowledge he has, and the limited (no) experience, and the complete absence of self-awareness (or apparent humility), I imagine he goes into “meetings” enthusiastically spouting off all kinds of sillyness and pushes back against the suggestions from industry professionals.

    If he had any sense, he’d take their suggestions and go the country route, and likely find mega-success with that audience, ready-made for him. But I suspect what’s delaying any signing is his unwillingness to take constructive input. I’m sure he sees it as preserving his “artistic integrity,” but he’d have to have some to preserve and imo he doesn’t. Not yet.

    He could go modern country, gain some traction, then try a crossover. Don’t be a douche Danny, you’re not that good and you don’t have the wisdom or experience, despite your age. Be humble, and a sponge, soak in the knowledge and experience you’ll gain (and that you sorely need!!)

    Ok, off the speculative soapbox… For a guy whose music I don’t like and who failed to impress me at all, I sure get aggravated by his naivety (is that a word?!) and ego mania, and how those will destroy any opportunity he may have! LOL

  11. This leads me to the question, does the music industry really need another mediocre singer? especially who until very recently knew very little about music?

    Sure it does. They are constantly minting new singers who can barely sing without the aid of autotune. If they’ve got a look that the industry thinks they can sell, they can have a career. And who cares how much they know about music? The less the better, sometimes. Makes them easier to mold when they don’t get any ideas of their own.

    Seriously, I think most of the music buying public just wants a song they like. They don’t really care to evem know if the person went to Julliard and never uses auto-tune. Some care, but I think a lot don’t.

    And, hey, I’ll admit it, I like “Sugar, Sugar” even though it was written for a fictional band in a cartoon. And I like the Monkees. Even the songs they recorded before they themselves were allowed to play the songs or have any input at all. And I love “Love Story” even though I know that Swift can’t sing live. And “Big Girls Don’t Cry” even if Fergie can’t really sing at all.

    I don’t care for Danny or Country music (in general), but I think he can make a go of it. Josh Gracin started out R&Bish on Idol and suddenly became Country and still managed a Gold Record. If he can do it, why not Danny?

  12. Given his lack of knowledge about country, or any music for that matter, as well as his “oh ok, I’ll do country music” attitude (not to mention he didn’t know what the Grand Ole Opry was), I have this image of the Sony Nashville execs being all “Oh, Simon Fuller, do we HAVE TO???”

  13. I think Danny was the second best singer this season’ ¦.only behind Adam. However, I enjoy the sound quality of Danny’s voice more than Adam’s. Danny is not a mediocre singer, that would be Kris. Although I will say that Kris has other talents to go along with his singing, but as a singer’ ¦..mediocre.

    I prefer Danny’s voice to Adam’s. I don’t really care for Adam’s tone. It’s not very pleasant sounding to me. I think that technically he sings well, but I am not crazy about the tone of his voice. I agree with you about Kris.

    Reading tea leaves, I say that Danny is being difficult and, as a result, may not be signed. Even with the little musical knowledge he has, and the limited (no) experience, and the complete absence of self-awareness (or apparent humility), I imagine he goes into ‘meetings’  enthusiastically spouting off all kinds of sillyness and pushes back against the suggestions from industry professionals.

    I think that he has already been signed. In one of his Tweets yesterday he mentioned not being able to talk about the outcome of the his meetings in Nashville until the time is right. I think that Danny has gotten signed. But I wonder with who, and when will there be an announcement about it.

  14. Seriously, I am now inclined to agree that the Danny pimping was all smoke and mirrors and that someone else was always intended to win. Just not Adam either, or he wouldn’t have been Huffed

    I think they originally wanted Danny, Adam or Lil and things shifted to Adam after his stock started rising and Danny and Lil started dropping.

    Nobody thinks more highly of Danny than Danny. It’s a real love affair. He reminds me of a guy I went to high school with who, during his admission interview at Yale, managed to get into a fight with the person conducting the interview. He was a total ego-maniac, had no control over himself and was oblivious to all known social amenities. Needless to say he was not admitted despite being a top student. I wonder if Danny will be able to control himself during these meetings. If a label actually signs him, well good luck with that.

  15. I don’t really see what difference it makes if Danny talks about the meetings or not. I’m sure he wouldn’t do it if he had been specifically asked not to. It’s not like he has said he is getting the deal, just that he is meeting about it.

    He was pretty much HOUNDED on Twitter for ANY information about a record deal by his fans after Allison got signed, and he really is pretty much an open book. That’s just his personality, which can sometimes be good and sometimes get him in trouble.

    edit: Do not question the motives of your fellow posters. STICK to the subject

  16. I’m surprised that Danny would give so much information about what is going on. He should stay mum until it happens. So not cool to talk about it. Then again, this is his first business deal!

    I agree that he clearly shouldn’t be talking about this. Maybe someone close to him will give him some good advice.

    He could go modern country, gain some traction, then try a crossover.

    I listen to a lot of country music and I can’t see Danny doing contemporary country. I also don’t have a clue what “modern-soul country” sounds like.

    I can see him being successful doing inspirational country music — and even keeping it secular — in the country-gospel tradition crossover tradition. So if that was “modern-soul country” music is. I get it.

    And, yes, Danny has a lot of fans and could be the next Kelly Pickler — I am thinking in terms of AI finish and sales only.

  17. That Brian Mansfield/USA comment- is there real information here or did he just relay what Danny told him?
    Are we all just basing everything on Danny’s twitters, because the boy is seriously delusional.
    It’s not real until a contract is signed.

    The latest he twittered on this topic is “Hi peeps! I know u all r waiting 2 hear about the Nashville meetings but I will let u know the outcome @ the right time =)”.

    The “right time” could well be after the tour if 19 didn’t want him.
    Do we really think they would release him before the tour is over?

    Country fans will reject a poser before breakfast.

  18. There’s lots of tears and crying in country music, I think it’s a great fit for Gokey.

  19. I thought Danny had the best voice of the top four. However, he has no musicality and poor performance skills. Kris has the most musicality and Adam is the best performer. I have the same problem with Adam’s tone as others have mentioned. I’d really have a problem listening to an entire album of his songs although I could see myself dling a few singles.

    If Sony Nashville signs Danny, they should make the announcement fairly soon. If it’s another label, nothing official until the fall.

  20. And who cares how much they know about music

    I care.
    How can a so called singer produce decent music if they don’t know anything about it. This is art we’re talking about, not some factory assembly line producing generic one hot hit wonders. Must we cheapen all aspects of our culture to the value of dollar?!

    Music should be a passion not a paycheck!! No wonder the state of contemporary music is so dismal, with musical Joe The Plumbers, who aren’t musical or plumbers, churning it out.

    I don’t care if Danny can make ago of it, the chipmunks made ago of it for frell’s sake. I care about the quality of music this industry produces, and Danny is not a step in the right direction.

  21. There are people that are doing the same for all of the idols. I know that I’m not interested in Kris musically, although I do like him as a person, but I’m following him anyway. This is not something that only applies to Danny.

    Although Adam is a nice person , I’m following him just because of Kris..

  22. Wonder if he is doing the Michael Johns thing…e.g. 19R is not going to sign him, so he asks out of the 19E deal so that he can negotiate with others..they say yes, but he cannot announce anything until after the tour…who knows…i do find it odd that after the judges (inexpicable to me) mad love for Gokey that 19 does not appear to have shown as much interest in him as Kradison

  23. I prefer Danny’s voice to Adam’s. I don’t really care for Adam’s tone. It’s not very pleasant sounding to me. I agree with you about Kris.

    Well, that’s kinda what I mean. Adam has great technical singing ability and great stage presence. (He has had singing lessons and stage experience his whole life.) He has a range like nobody’s business. I do have to give him props for these talents. But like you, I do prefer Danny’s tone.

  24. “Danny is the Joe the Plumber in the Music Industry”

    I don’t see how you can justify this statement except that this is your own personal opinion.

    All signs seem to suggest he is in serious talks with some record companies of getting signed, I hope he does get signed. I believe there is a market for his voice, and I also think he makes the right decision in going main stream.

    Danny does Rascal Flatts songs very well, many people love his take on WHTM, and I am sure he will do a great job in singing My Wish. Remember Paula went from dancing to crying when hearing Danny’s set during rehearsal?

    A radio host Cindy Swanson who interviewed Danny says “Most radio stations have very specific playlists, and they wouldn’t regularly playing an artist that wasn’t signed to a label”

    All the more important to get signed by a major label.

  25. I didnt really like Danny on the show, but after it- I like him. I wish him well with the meetings and record deals.

  26. Is it bad that I really hope that Danny doesn’t get a record deal?

    And with Nashville of all the places.

    I just think Danny’s public behavior is so..unnatural. He’s too sheltered and he doesn’t know how to handle himself. I guess I should give him a chance to learn, but really do we want to see his diarrhea of a mouth running wild even more so?

    Someone get the man a good publicity person, who he will still probably ignore.

    I don’t know when I began to feel that Danny’s heart wasn’t in it with American Idol, but I get the feeling again this isn’t what Danny wants again.

    I never pictured Danny as a country singer, and i still don’t. I don’t know if Danny picture himself as a country singer. i suppose this was the easiest market for him to sink into.

    I don’t doubt the man still wants to make music, but I just shake the feeling of this still not being the right forum.

    And personally not that I would buy anything Danny Gokey ever put out because I’m not in the mood to be preached at, I can already imagine some of the songs he’s written.

  27. hey even William Hung got some music down! didn’t William Hung say he was working on his 2nd album?

    Actually IF gokey decides he wants to make a record, he will be working with professionals,, who will be able to tell if gokey will be worth working with. or if he will be one mess. do you think these professionals will work with someone unless that singer or alleged singer will be able to produce something and not shame them. They have their reputations and future income on the line.

    time will tell.

  28. I don’t see how you can justify this statement except that this is your own personal opinion.

    Ofcourse it’s my own personal opinion. Who’s else would it be?

    And when I say Joe the plumber I mean a pretender, a fabrication, an empty vessel.

  29. There are people that are doing the same for all of the idols. I know that I’m not interested in Kris musically, although I do like him as a person, but I’m following him anyway. This is not something that only applies to Danny.

    Although Adam is a nice person , I’m following him just because of Kris..

    Exactly, and that’s my point. I am following a lot of people that I’m not a big fan of. I’m saying this applies to ALL of the idols.

  30. While Danny has a good voice, he has a long way to go vis a vis his performance skills for one thing.

    And I still think there are a number of recent Idol contestants who are more talented who weren’t signed by 19 or likely won’t be, boggles the mind sometimes. Must be a demographic thing.

    OK wait is Danny signed to 19 or not?

  31. I think that it would be interesting if Danny signed with Sony Nashville. And I also think that it would be interesting if Danny got a deal with that other record company he met with in Nashville and actually puts out an R&B mixed with Latin influences album.

    I still want to see how he would sound singing that type of music and I think that we will get some type of idea of how he sounds doing on that on tour. Since he will be singing a song with a Latin feel to it.

    He said on Twitter that he will let his fans know what happened during those meetings at “right” time. I just wonder when that will be, whether it will be some time today or tomorrow, if he signed with Sony Nashville, or after the tour if he will be putting out an album with another record company.

  32. I never pictured Danny as a country singer, and i still don’t. I don’t know if Danny picture himself as a country singer. i suppose this was the easiest market for him to sink into.

    Well Danny chose to sing more country songs on AI than any of the others. He sang What Hurts the Most, I Hope You Dance, and Jesus Take the Wheel. He will also be singing My Wish on tour. He also sang Endless Love, which was covered by country artist Kenny Rogers.

    I think Danny is drawn to these inspirational ballady type songs. He sings them with alot of emotion and heart. I also think he has a great voice.

    He may have an ideal record that he wants to make, but I do think he is also drawn to the above mentioned types of songs. He said at one point that WHTM was his favorite song that he sang on the show. It’s called getting your foot in the door.

    I don’t see Danny as an egomaniac AT ALL. I have no idea where that is coming from…I guess people see what they want to see. I think he has confidence in his voice, and I think he should.

  33. Danny is the Joe the Plumber in the Music Industry

    Kudos! So perfect….

    I don’t care much for the Gokey, I never thought he had anything special other than a back story which I didn’t think was that unique or compelling because we all lose someone precious if we live long enough; we usually lose a number of loved ones. I think there are a few others in the top 13 who have shown they are much more dedicated to a musical career and I’d like to see any of them have a shot at a contract before Gokey. On the other hand, it might be entertaining to see how they Kristy-Lee-Cook-ify him. Gokey made it further on the show, but KLC had stronger country credentials so … who knows? Could be amusing to watch that trainwreck play out.

  34. There is a record label that puts out R&B music with Latin influences?

    Shut my mouth. Love to know what artists are already on the label – I can’t think of any R & B music with Latin influences unless that new hit by Pitbull counts. Nelly Furtado has Spanish lyric songs on her last album and I think her new album is going to be totally Spanish/Latin, she’s Portuguese, not sure if she sings in Portuguese so she has new single in Spanish that is cool.

    Have we heard Danny singing anything remotely resembling R&B with Latin influences? Does he have anything in the pre Idol arsenal repping this kind of music.

    Now me I like both R&B and Latin music so the combination sounds killer – just where has this music been hiding?

  35. I care.

    You might care, but I was talking from the perspective of a record label. For certain types of artists, they do care, but for many they don’t care at all.

    It’s like Clive used to talk about artists and commercial singers. He was quite clear in that he thought Idols were commercial singers. They don’t need to have vision, they need to record the label’s vision. The label has “crack marketing teams” trolling the planet for the latest sounds and best songs. They just need to find the right people to sing them.

    The original question was “does the music industry really need another mediocre singer? especially who until very recently knew very little about music?” And I said yes. The industry needs these people very much. These people are ever so much less complicated to deal with. They can be packaged ever so much more easily (Gokey might be an issue here, but they are probably making him sweat so that they can soften him up to his actual role). Kris may be more difficult to deal with. The kid has a vision. Fortunately, it seems to be a currently marketable vision and he has made it known in interviews that he knows he will have to comprimise.

    Look how Clive FREAKED out when Kelly insisted that she follow her own vision, a vision he did not see as marketable. Word on the street was that he promised her $5M if she would record half the songs that he picked and she refused. I’m not saying it’s a bad album, but Clive certainly made everybody know that he thought it was bad.

    How can a so called singer produce decent music if they don’t know anything about it.

    Why not? I’m sure there are lots of opera singers out there that have wonderful vocal techniques who couldn’t write a song if you threatened to stab them with horn on a Wagnerian helmet.

    Some people are just talented singers (and with autotune, even that requirement is no longer necessary). Some people are talented songwriters who are terrible singers (Dianne Warren has lots of industry respect, but can the lady sing? I doubt she does it very well). Some people can sing and write songs. Some people can sing and write songs and play instruments. Some people can sing and write songs and play instruments and dance and do differential equations. It’s just a different set of talents. Provided you have the talents required to do your job, I suspect that most of the listening public does not care.

    This is art we’re talking about, not some factory assembly line producing generic one hot hit wonders.

    Well, some of it is art, but I would argue that most of the music industry is not about art. It’s about money and entertainment. I can be entertained watching some popcorn movie. It doesn’t always have to be Academy award winner. Just as I can happily sing along to some pop music without it having to be symphonic. I like the symphony too, but sometimes, I just want “Suger Suger”.

    And seeing as how a piece of junk movie like “Transformers” made $200M in 5 days (more than most art films will make in their entire run), I suspect that many other people also appreciate popcorn. And the selling of those popcorn movies makes enough profit for movie studios to “waste” money making art house movies as well (“wasted” because if the studio doesn’t end up profitable, it ends up dead. Many art films have a low return on investment).

    Must we cheapen all aspects of our culture to the value of dollar?!

    Can’t people be appreciated for their ability to sing? Must they be able to do everything else as well? I don’t know if Ella Fitzgerald wrote many of her hits, but I think she is amazing. Is Julie Andrews any less of a talented singer because she didn’t write the musicals herself?

    And heck, sometimes, I just like to have fun. Obviously, since I’m spending my time watching a cheesy television show and discussing it rather than spending my time watching the much higher quality show, “The Wire”.

  36. “There are people that are doing the same for all of the idols. I know that I’m not interested in Kris musically, although I do like him as a person, but I’m following him anyway. This is not something that only applies to Danny”

    This is true but Danny got into the twitterland ahead of Kris and Adam….the end result, non-fans were forced to register to Danny’s twitter (and Anoop, Matt for that matter) because he might spill some Kris or Adam news. Besides, these 3 (Danny, Matt, Anoop)tweets a lot. I am only registered to Adam’s tweeter but I do check on the other idols tweets via internet.

    I agree though that Danny should keep quiet until the deal is done just like what Adam, Kris and Allison did.

  37. I don’t understand what makes Danny more marketable than Anoop or even more so Matt. Other than his Twitter account what proof is there that anyone is interested? I’m being sincere when I ask that question.

    I did like Danny with the Rascal Flatts song but after that it was just meh. He does have that Michael McDonald sound going on but all his songs sounds exactly the same to me. He doesn’t rearrange and can’t put a signature on them because he doesn’t even know what that would be. He has no knowledge of any music outside of the Christian genre and he himself has said in interviews that there was only one song he sang during the run of idol that he was even familiar with at all before specifically learning it for the show.

    We all saw him forget the words to Billy Jean during that live performance referring to his piece of paper that floated away and sometimes it’s just painful watching him perform. And interviews, gah!, don’t get me started, the incoherent ramblings are so awkward.

    And of course these are only my personal opinions, YMMV.

  38. I don’t see Danny as an egomaniac AT ALL

    I don’t see that either, and I didn’t get that from his interview with QLF or any of the other interviews he’s done.

    Also, I think that for the most part, sans maybe Michael Slezak, the people that have interviewed have liked him. Regis and Kelly really liked him, Mike and Juliette really liked him as did the people at OK magazine, and other people who have interviewed him. As well as various celebrities and assitants to celebrities who have talked about him on Twitter.

    He’s been invited to various parties and events for different celebrities along with Matt, and has gotten praise from various celebs and other people. Plus he has gotten two magazine covers already. One I believe from some magazine in Texas and other for some lifestyle magazine in Milwaukee. So he’s charming/making good impressions on at least some people, including people in the industry.

  39. Country fans will reject a poser before breakfast.

    So true. Good singer or not, Danny just isn’t going to fit in country music. He didn’t even know what the Grand Ole Opry was. That’s like blasphemy to country fans, so I highly doubt he will be welcomed into the country music world. He’s going to get basically the same reaction Jessica Simpson got when she tried to got country, and at least she’s from Texas! Danny doesn’t even have that going for him.

    Actually IF gokey decides he wants to make a record, he will be working with professionals,, who will be able to tell if gokey will be worth working with. or if he will be one mess. do you think these professionals will work with someone unless that singer or alleged singer will be able to produce something and not shame them. They have their reputations and future income on the line.

    These “professionals” worked on Kristy Lee Cook’s album last year, as well. It was terrible, it got almost no promotion, and she got dropped. Even the pros don’t always know what’s best.

  40. YAY!! 4 danny, now he can inspire the country music lovers.

    why wld anyone follow Adam b/c of kris. Adam barely uses that thing and if he improves usuage i don’t think he wld be giving out info abt kris.

  41. Country fans will reject a poser before breakfast.

    I know. Ask Jessica Simpson. Danny had never even heard of the Grand Ole Opry. What kind of credibility can he have in the country music industry?

  42. How can a so called singer produce decent music if they don’t know anything about it. This is art we’re talking about, not some factory assembly line producing generic one hot hit wonders.

    ITA!

    An artist has to have some concept of who they are as a person and as a musician. They truly need a musical identity and some conviction about it to be successful.

    Adam, Kris and Allison have a very clear idea about who they are and who they aren’t as people and artists, and they demonstrated that throughout the show. Due to his vocal ability, Adam had more range, but he had no less of a distinctive identity than Kris or Allison. That’s why all three were signed.

    Danny is going to have to figure out who he is as an artist at some point, and right now, he seems to have no clue. He doesn’t even seem to have much of a clue about music. Even Carrie Underwood, who was the ultimate AI “vessel” – pretty face, good voice, no real personality or identity – had some concept of who she was and what worked for her, and that was country music. Danny will get signed, but personally, I wouldn’t sign him.

  43. Danny shouldn’t be singing country music… I don’t really think he knows who he is as an artist yet, really.

  44. Well Danny chose to sing more country songs on AI than any of the others. He sang What Hurts the Most, I Hope You Dance, and Jesus Take the Wheel. He will also be singing My Wish on tour. He also sang Endless Love, which was covered by country artist Kenny Rogers.

    So Danny likes to sing inspirational ballads? I get that, and while he sang those the most on Idol, it doesn’t give me a “country” vibe. It gives me a “I want to be inspirational vibe.”

    And personally EVERY one of those songs are country crossover songs in my opinion, songs that were universal and not solidly “country” Which I guess they could market him as a crossover country artist(or alternative country, is that what is called? New country? don’t know my terms)

    Which means country isn’t the best route, because I don’t think many people would want an album full of ballads. Of all those above mentioned songs, all those artists had an upbeat hit as well.

    I picture Danny as the inspirational balladier (IE, PREACHER), but I find most of his upbeat songs he’s done on Idol were dreadful. And I don’t think he’s going to win many people over being marketed directly as a “new comer country artist” because I never got that impression on Idol from him.

  45. Indeed Kirsten, how then do we explain the appeal of Michael Buble, Josh Groban, Harry Connick Jr and Matt Dusk?

    Hey Frank Sinatra never wrote his own stuff. The whole Rat Pack were all song interpreters.

    There is a market and appeal for people who are song interpreters rather than singer songwriters. I don’t know much about the other four, but Michael Buble however has at least stepped out of the box by recording an original song that he actually wrote which was a massive hit. Must have Mr. Buble thinking hmmm.

    All a matter of taste and most people have room for all kinds of artists. Myself I am not crazy about song interpreters, except Tom Jones but I grew up watching his show, with my mom, bwah. But I do love Buble’s original song.

    However I think you do have to have a certain musicality to even be just a song interpreter. To be a great song interpreter.

  46. Is it bad that I really hope that Danny doesn’t get a record deal?

    And with Nashville of all the places.

  47. True dat Natasha whereas Darius Rucker lead singer of Hootie and the Blowfish is doing very well and he strikes me as a man who has musicality.

  48. edit: don’t bait posters. keep it polite

    But just to make my point clear, I’m not talking about writing music as a defining factor of an artist, I’m talking about knowledge of the art that is music. Pavarotti never wrote a note or a word, yet he is foremost in his artistic field. Danny has reached the ripe old age of 29 not knowing even the most fundamental facts of music. If that shows anything it shows that his interests, the minimum requirement for any sort of musician vocal or otherwise is to be interested, lies elsewhere.

  49. I know. Ask Jessica Simpson.

    In my opinion, Jessica doesn’t really sing very well, she just screams. Danny has a clear advantage over her with his whiskey vocals. I also think that if he can show his more goofy, playful side more, he could do well. Maybe the people in Nashville told him to drop the beard and the glasses? One could only hope… :clap_tb:

  50. Danny had a *big* problem on Idol, and he has admitted this: he does NOT know contemporary music! He knows inspirational/gospel tunes, and maybe some country (e.g., Rascal Flatts) and that is *it*. So his handlers are probably going to choose his music for him, which is fine. I liked him singing Rascal Flatts, one of the few performances I enjoyed, so if he goes that route, I think it will be smart (you don’t need to know country well to enjoy that kind of music, IMO). I still think, however, that you should not be tweeting about record deals until you HAVE one. Kradison didn’t, and I thought that was smart.

  51. But just to make my point clear, I’m not talking about writing music as a defining factor of an artist, I’m talking about knowledge of the art that is music. Pavarotti never wrote a note or a word, yet he is foremost in his artistic field. Danny has reached the ripe old age of 29 not knowing even the most fundamental facts of music. If that shows anything it shows that his interests, the minimum requirement for any sort of musician vocal or otherwise is to be interested, lies elsewhere.

    I completely agree with this. There are many, MANY fantastic artists in this world who have never written a lyric and could probably not read music to save their life, but are PHENOMENAL artists.

    I agree completely because Danny doesn’t have a clue about secular music, which I think is a downfall. He draws from the only musical inspiration he has, gospel, and while I do feel that gospel is a wonderful inspiration but who does he lists as his inspirations? People he wanted to emulate when he was younger? Songs that made him want to be a singer? But even beyond that he doesn’t understand where his musical roots are coming from. To me he is the perfect example sometimes of singing someone elses’s song with absolutely no meaning behind it.

    I guess this relates to another one of my many problems with Danny. Is country the shoe that suddenly fits all of a sudden? What if someone had offered him pop? Or gospel? Or better yet pop/rock? Want to relieve “Dream On?” DAnny? Danny doesn’t know what shoe he fits musically. This I think also stems of his lack of knowledge about music in general. I suppose you can be eclectic in what you listen to, but you NEED to know what the hell drives you as an artist.

    I don’t think I saw Danny as a country artist. I don’t think I could have seen DAnny as a pop artist. Personally the only place I see Danny is in his church choir. Where he belongs.

  52. On the other hand, there are many artists, big name artists who started in the gospel tradition and had no trouble finding more popular niches- see Ms. Aretha Franklin for starters.

  53. and actually puts out an R&B mixed with Latin influences album.

    I still want to see how he would sound singing that type of music

    I’d like to hear that sound too. I love finding and hearing interesting new music.

    The point is well taken, otoh, that we’ve not heard anything like that from Danny. Nor, to my knowledge, have we been told that he’s sung it before anywhere for anyone — except maybe we can assume privately with his wife. So, to me, it sounds like a naive Danny talking about whatever wish may pop into his head, now that he’s entering (in his view) a whole new world of possibilities. To industry peeps, I can only imagine how this sounds. But I know how it sounds to me, and I don’t hold out a lot of hope for the guy right now.

  54. After thinking about it, I think this is the only way they CAN go with him and be succesful. Danny is not pop and latin rnb is a too thin genre (if it even is a genre). I definetely think he should go for it and I don’t think he is selling out. The kid only want to sing (and maybe preach some…)!

  55. “Is it bad that I really hope that Danny doesn’t get a record deal?”

    No. because I feel the same way. I can’t help it…..I just don’t like the guy. The more I see him, the worse it gets.

  56. Danny had a *big* problem on Idol, and he has admitted this: he does NOT know contemporary music!

    yep this was a problem. his other was not listening to what mentors said to him. he did his own thing, but doing his own thing did get him into the top 3. reading thru other posts, I see Dan does have a problem listening and taking advice. Who knows maybe that will work for him again. :ponder_tb:

  57. ‘Is it bad that I really hope that Danny doesn’t get a record deal?’ 
    “No. because I feel the same way. I can’t help it’ ¦..I just don’t like the guy. The more I see him, the worse it gets.”

    Same here. Can’t stand the guy. He’s so obnoxious. That voice he got, blah, not my cup of tea…

  58. The point is well taken, otoh, that we’ve not heard anything like that from Danny. Nor, to my knowledge, have we been told that he’s sung it before anywhere for anyone ‘” except maybe we can assume privately with his wife. So, to me, it sounds like a naive Danny talking about whatever wish may pop into his head, now that he’s entering (in his view) a whole new world of possibilities. To industry peeps, I can only imagine how this sounds. But I know how it sounds to me, and I don’t hold out a lot of hope for the guy right now.

    I really don’t know if he ever sung that type of music in public before. All I know is that someone related to his wife said in an article that he is very comfortable singing that type of music. And that after he met wife, he decided to learn Spanish.

    And Danny has spoken about how Latin music was very important to his wife and her family. And Anoop says that Danny along with Allison both know a lot of Spanish. And I have seen a list with some of Danny’s Latin musical influences. He has some people up there that I have heard of and some I have never heard of before.

    But I agree that since we never heard Danny do that type of music on the show, we don’t know how he sounds doing that type of music. That is why I am glad that he is singing a song with a Latin feel to it on tour, so we can get some type of idea of how he sounds doing that type of music.

    I don’t know why he never did that type of music on the show. He could have done that type of music during downloads week, which was pretty much anything goes. Or top 3 week as a personal song choice.

  59. The whole “singer-songwriter” thing is becoming something of a cliche on the soundscene today. Ah, yes. It’s true.

    The great Clive Davis once said that many of the best of the best in music history didn’t write a lick over their careers. And he’s absolutely correct. Clive went on to say that if an artist thinks he/she can write a better song than the best writers available to him/her, then he/she should do so–by all means! However, if an artist feels that he/she cannot (or the prevailing sentiment is that he/she cannot) do so, he/she should NOT try! Brilliant.

    Danny Gokey has an amazing set of pipes and possesses a natural ability to adapt a song to his voice, making spontaneous changes with each performance. That’s the Church in him. So, I have no doubt that with the right songwriting and production (and a little bit of coaching on breath control and phrasing), he’ll make some sweet music. Might not be our cuppa, but I’m sure there will be plenty of folks willing to by his “modern soul country” kinda joint.

  60. Are you serious…..Gokey ….I was hoping we were almost done hearing him…please……he is not very marketable…..not much of a performer, and definitely not a singer…..

  61. Here is the deal Danny:

    1. If your option is Nashville or nothing, shut up about an R&B mixed with Latin influences album.

    2. You show up in Nashville in cowboy boots and point out how much you would like to put out a Rascal Flats-y album.

    3. If you ignore 1 and 2 above, be ready to go back to being church music director.

  62. his other was not listening to what mentors said to him.

    I only remember this happening with Smokey. But y’know, they work with other people on the show too. I think Danny worked with Deborah Byrd on the show? Anyway, we have know idea of knowing whether he received different advice from other professionals. I would assume he tried it both ways for them and they probably decided a certain way worked best.

    It’s awful hard to definatively judge a contestant by the short clips they show on the show. I know that Danny seemed happy to take Smokey’s advice in his little talking clip. What happened in his rehearsals between that moment and the actual show? We really just don’t know.

  63. ppwars Jul 2nd, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    Is it bad that I really hope that Danny doesn’t get a record deal?

    And with Nashville of all the places.

    The above posted before I finished!! My response was to be:

    YES, but you have a lot of good company. Seriously, all professional negotiators are appalled with Danny’s public comments regarding the progression of his record dealings. All who are negotiating againt him are LAFFIN’ their asses off. What danny has done, and will continue to do is stupid. If he lands a deal, he absolutely will not get close to the deal he would have if he had kept his mouth shut. If you are ever in Dan’s position, get an agent/lawyer and speak only what your agent allows.

  64. Pavarotti never wrote a note or a word, yet he is foremost in his artistic field.

    Yet Pavarotti has not performed live or recorded for years. This could indicate a lot of things, but I think the reason for this is only because he is dead.

    Danny has reached the ripe old age of 29 not knowing even the most fundamental facts of music. If that shows anything it shows that his interests, the minimum requirement for any sort of musician vocal or otherwise is to be interested, lies elsewhere.

    Or, it could mean that he is a late bloomer or that he was too busy trying to earn his daily bread to have time to concentrate on his singing career. Danny married young and his wife was very ill. I’m not sure that he had the option of just concentrating on music.

    Look, I’ve made it very clear that I don’t personally like Danny’s musical style and I found his performances on Idol to be as derivative as Lil’s, but I can still see why the label might sign him. I can still see why he has fans. I can still see that a person with little sensible vision (and I mean that in a musical sense, not refering to his glasses) might have value to a label and could still have a career. The music biz is not one size fits all.

    Somebody called him a plumber, and I don’t even see that as an insult (as somebody who has recently renovated a house, I highly value a quality plumber who is willing to give me the time of day). An architect can design the most beautiful house, but if nobody does the plumbing, I’m not sure I want to live in that house. There are lots of tradesmen in the music business. Few can be a jack-of-all trades. Danny may have limited skills in other departments, but it may be that there is a musical label out there that needs somebody to sing bombastic ballads with a tinge of sadness. These people might need Danny. I’m not going to buy it, but I don’t begrudge the people who might want such an album their musical pleasure.

  65. Is it bad that I really hope that Danny doesn’t get a record deal?

    And with Nashville of all the places.

    It may be bad, but I don’t think you’re alone in hoping this. It just seems unfair to a lot of other talented people who’ve been on the show and who *did* know a lot about popular music when they participated and seem to me equally deserving in other ways. I don’t see what Danny does have except a voice. And many participants have had a voice, well developed musicality, a knowledge of music history and a sense of where they belonged and wanted to be in it, etc.

    For me, it’s not so much that he doesn’t deserve a deal as that he doesn’t deserve one ahead of a whole bunch of other people from the eight seasons.

    I also just can’t figure out why he would be the one to get the deal. Do they know something we don’t know about his level of sex appeal? the size and buying habits of some kind of evangelical-Christian fanbase that he may have assembled? or what???

    And since country didn’t exactly embrace Phil Stacey — who was much more of a country artist on the show than Danny was and also has quite a good voice — I don’t really get why they think Danny will fare better.

  66. I’m really happy for Danny and I do think he will do very well in country if What Hurts The Most is any indication of what he can put out.

    He’s the tops for me in terms of singing and vocal tone out of the top three.

  67. I don’t know why he never did that type of music on the show. He could have done that type of music during downloads week, which was pretty much anything goes. Or top 3 week as a personal song choice.

    Good points. If I were cynical… oh yeah, I am… I think he knew his voting base and played strategically well to those voters. I’m over-generalizing, I’m sure, and I’m not trying to say all of any group of people think any sort of way. But, in this country, notwithstanding that we applaud ourselves as the great “melting pot” of ethnicity, a large contingent of the population still does not support immigration or other “outside” languages and influences on our culture, particularly from Latin countries. So I suspect, rightly yet sadly, Danny chose not to inject that issue into his AI journey while courting votes.

    Forgive me, but I told you I was cynical. :-)

  68. I have to agree with everyone who says Danny doesn’t seem to know who he is as an artist – maybe that’s why his negotiations are taking so long while he tries to figure it out.

    I think Kris, Adam and Allison all have their identities as artists so the deals to sign them were easier to get done.

    I think Danny could potentially end up going the same route as Phil Stacey – he’s done well for himself starting in the country market and movng out of that with his newer stuff. While I’m not a huge Danny fan, I know there are people who are and want to see him signed.

    And as for Twitter, I only started following Danny, Matt & Anoop to get Kris and Allison info. I still check out their stuff even though Allison and Kris now have their own twitters because some of the stuff they put out there is hilarious, especially Anoop.

  69. Forgive me, but I told you I was cynical. :-)

    I like a little cynicism. You also happen to be correct about Danny playing the game well.

  70. Regarding whether Danny has sung anything like the Latin R&B thing, he did during the Lionel Ritchie medley. Lionel has some latin flavor to his stuff.

    Regarding Danny’s potential record deal, I hope he gets the record and is able to release music that he likes. I really dig his voice, and want to hear it applied to some modern original music.

    I love Danny’s voice, too. Danny has LOTS of fans in my neck of the woods…South Carolina. He was by far the most popular idol here…with Adam being second.

    Despite what shows up on this blog, Danny does have many fans. How that will translate once the album is out, well we will have to wait and see, just as we will for the others.

    As for all the negativity toward Danny, I have never heard of one person who has actually met him that doesn’t have something good to say. More of the idols have actually mentioned being close to Danny than any of the others. By saying this, all I’m really getting at is that the people who know him, like him. He couldn’t be this evil, egomaniacal caricature that has been made up about him by the fans of other certain other contestants. The others would just not like him if that were true.

    edit: do not question or criticize other posters

  71. I totally agree with Kirstens post. I think Danny is a slow grower and I think the idol experience was a major culture shock for him in addition to dealing with his wife’s death (sorry to bring it up again). I think he panicked and had a hard time (maybe still has) to keep things light in the public eye. Hopefully he will ease up and get more confidence and be able to do what he wants to do.

  72. So I suspect, rightly yet sadly, Danny chose not to inject that issue into his AI journey while courting votes.

    Forgive me, but I told you I was cynical.

    Well, I don’t think it’s cyncial for contestants to consider how something might effect potential voters. I think it would be smart. I’m pretty sure, based on his pre-Idol stuff, that at least one other contestant this year toned down his stuff.

    But, I’m more cynical than you, I think we didn’t see Latin Danny because Latin Danny didn’t go over too well. Remember how he did plan on singing a Latin/R&B version of some song (it’s from the Idolatory videos) to show his arranging mojo and once it came time to rehearsals, it was decided that it wasn’t going to work (I seem to recall that Rickey Minor suggested that it might come off as “cheesy” which for this show must have been mega cheesy), so Rickey did a quick re-arranging and that was that. But perhaps it is my bias against the entire concept of Latin/R&B/Milwakee/TruckDriver/Gospel-Style fusion signing which blinds me. Plus, I’ve seen so many “fusion” concepts generating a new world of music coming out of Idol failing badly.

  73. I don’t know why he never did that type of music on the show. He could have done that type of music during downloads week, which was pretty much anything goes. Or top 3 week as a personal song choice

    He has never held back talking about the ethnicity of his wife, or that he liked latin music and salsa dancing. It was in one of his AI bios…..and he mentioned it some of the AI videos that they do and posted on the AI website. He was not trying to hide this from anyone.

    I do think it’s possible that he was coached or either thought on his own that that type of music might not appeal to as many people in the broad AI audience, as far as picking a song to sing on the show. They all pick their songs based on how they will appeal to the voting public, and rightly so. They would be stupid not to.

    Also, it must be remembered, that they don’t necessarily get to do their first song choice. So it’s possible that Danny picked a certain song that didn’t get cleared. Didn’t Matt say something on LKL about the song clearance people always chasing him and Danny around? lol.

  74. But, I’m more cynical than you, I think we didn’t see Latin Danny because Latin Danny didn’t go over to well. Remember how he did plan on singing a Latin/R&B version of some song (it’s from the Idolatory videos) to show his arranging mojo and once it came time to rehearsals, it was decided that it wasn’t going to work (I seem to recall that Rickey Minor suggested that it might come off as ‘cheesy’  which for this show must have been mega cheesy), so Rickey did a quick re-arranging and that was that.

    Which kind of indicates that soul-country is the best road for him, if we exlude christian music. I have read somewhere that he is not really interested in christian music, but I might be wrong. I think the country-genre still appreciates soulful, sad ballads so it could work for him.

  75. Danny is a bad choice for any record label because of several things:

    1. Although he has passable intonation and stays on pitch most of the time, he doesn’t understand breathing AT ALL and is usually running out of breath just when he needs to push a power note or do a long run. This is not workable, and if the coaches at Idol couldn’t get through to him I doubt anyone can.

    2. He has no clue about music. He doesn’t understand what goes well with what as far arranging or choosing songs and he doesn’t understand that putting together an album requires a bit of insight into what the buying public wishes to hear, not what he wishes to sing. Even when a singer has a strong grounding in a specific genre or a strong belief in their own vision (which I would argue Danny doesn’t), they are required to compromise in thoughtful ways in order to have a successful album, especially a *first* album.

    3. He has *zero* people skills. He almost always says something to make himself seem like a douche, even people who adore him end up scratching their heads a lot of the time about his public statements. They may not think he is a douche, but they often think he needs a PR person to help him. This is not really curable. Either you have X factor, or you don’t. You can be packaged, if you can keep your clutch disengaged between your mind and your mouth, but you can’t “learn” to be a people magnet.

    I predict that Danny will continue to get in his own way and ruin the chance he has at a short, limited run as a singer/celebrity. Long term he should probably just go with being an inspirational preacher/music worship leader. He just doesn’t have the chops to be any bigger than that.

  76. Forgive me, but I told you I was cynical.

    Well, I don’t think it’s cyncial for contestants to consider how something might effect potential voters. I think it would be smart. I’m pretty sure, based on his pre-Idol stuff, that at least one other contestant this year toned down his stuff.

    I was saying that my analysis was cynical, not Danny. I agree, it was smart, even though to me it remains a sad statement on our society. I simply was trying to avoid the inevitable onslaught of comments about how we’re too hard on Danny, or criticism about my generalizing and stereotyping….

    I didn’t know that Danny planned and prepped a Latin flavored performance, but got shot down. Hmmmmm…. Maybe he should consider that modern soul country route…. LOL

  77. I think Danny should back off the Twitter for a while.

    It seems like he’s getting himself in more trouble, and alienating more fans, every time he tweets.

    He needs to take some time to figure out what he wants, then do it and THEN twitter about it.

    Right now I cringe every time I read something he’s put out there.

  78. I, like many other posters here, have an issue with rewarding someone for having a “voice” and that individual not wrapping his arms around it and embracing it.

    Someone, like Danny, who had a job where he had a lot of idle time (while truck drivers are at the dock they do absolutely nothing but while away the time per their union contract) should have been “learning” about his “craft”. If he truly wanted to be a recorded singer he had to know what to do with his voice and how best to use it. Personally I have NO VOICE but I know a lot of songs and singers and vocal styles and music genres and music history and ask a ton of questions about the industry….it’s all around me and has been for my entire life, how can you not know something about it.

    To me this says everything about Danny the person and tons about Danny the future recording artist. I liken it to an athlete. If you “decide” that you want to make golf your career you decide early on to learn to do it and learn correctly, you practice, you study the game, you learn it’s history. You’d do the same if you wanted to pursue swimming, or baseball, or skiing. You don’t just show up one day and say that you have the natural ability so someone should make you a star even though you’ve never taken the time to do anything about it.

    I just feel that Danny has gotten himself in way over his head. It’s not entirely his fault but he is culpable. If he gets a contract I’m 100% sure that the recording company will be getting him for a song…no one is going to be paying out big bucks to sign someone without all the goods that need to be brought to the table. If someone can figure out how to use Danny’s very loyal and idol based fans to make some money they will…but I don’t think Danny has the skills to make that initial investment and turn it into anything “big” for himself. It takes a hell of a lot of commitment and sacrifice and trust in yourself and your goal to eventually make any money for yourself. I just don’t think Danny has those kind of tools. And it makes me sad that he may be given the opportunity when there are so many deserving Idols (who do love what they do and have worked at it) that wont have a chance.

  79. He has never held back talking about the ethnicity of his wife, or that he liked latin music and salsa dancing. It was in one of his AI bios’ ¦..and he mentioned it some of the AI videos that they do and posted on the AI website. He was not trying to hide this from anyone.

    I do think it’s possible that he was coached or either thought on his own that that type of music might not appeal to as many people in the broad AI audience, as far as picking a song to sing on the show. They all pick their songs based on how they will appeal to the voting public, and rightly so. They would be stupid not to.

    Also, it must be remembered, that they don’t necessarily get to do their first song choice. So it’s possible that Danny picked a certain song that didn’t get cleared. Didn’t Matt say something on LKL about the song clearance people always chasing him and Danny around? lol.

    Maybe he did try to inject a Latin feel into a song, but once the band played it didn’t come out sounding that well. I remember Ricky Minor saying somewhere that Adam tried to inject a Latin sound into one of his performances, but that it didn’t come out well. So maybe the same thing happened with Danny?

    And Anoop has said that he didn’t sing certain songs on the show, because with he didn’t think they would come out sounding the way he wanted. I’m thinking maybe because the band might not have been able to get certain songs, to sound the way he wanted.

    He did compliment the tour band and mentioned how they were “sick”. I think that he really likes the tour band and probably prefers them to the regular AI band.

    Or it could have been a clearance issue. Maybe there were certain songs including Latin ones that he wanted to sing that he couldn’t get cleared.

    I agree that he has never held back talking his wife and her families culture. And he has talked about how much her and her family loved Latin music. I definitely don’t think that he ever tried to hide it from anyone.

  80. Cat, I have to disagree with you about Danny singing on pitch most of the time. He was one of the worst culprits. I could not believe Kara said he was always pitch perfect. I’m surprised she couldn’t hear it, because it was glaring on TV. I do agree with you on your other points, however.

    From day one I thought that Danny just didn’t have any appeal. As someone said he looks like someone who should be singing in church. I also get tired of him saying he wants to inspire people. How many different songs and different lyrics do we want to hear to be inspired? What about people who don’t need inspiring and just wants to hear good music?

  81. Somebody called him a plumber, and I don’t even see that as an insult (as somebody who has recently renovated a house, I highly value a quality plumber who is willing to give me the time of day).

    Kirsten, the reference harkens back to the presidential campaign in the US last year. The Republicans trotted out this guy, “Joe the Plumber,” who confronted Obama at a neighborhood walk-around and was supposed to represent the “average person.” Well it turns out the guy is not a licensed plumber and is not even named Joe. However, he IS a certified tax evader and all-around layabout. The person here who compared Gokey to Joe the Plumber was not dumping on plumbers. If anything, quite the opposite. She was dumping on people who get a lot of publicity by pretending to be something they’re not.

  82. Danny may not be “the coolest dude in the pack”, but I have always enjoyed listening to him – not so keen on watching him though. I think he’ll make a few good cds, whatever genre he gets into. I suspect he’ll appeal to the older age group (of which I am one). Their $$$ is as good as the younger generation’s – the Boomers and older have known many singers with an approach similar to Danny’s. I get that he doesn’t appeal to the in crowd – but the in crowd isn’t everybody.

    He’ll never reach the heights Adam will, but I think he’ll do well enough, and will improve a lot with good advice and some spit and polish from stylists. I think he’ll surprise some people.

  83. Tess, you say it beautifuly. That is exactly my problem with Danny. I remember hearing during the season that he mentioned being bored backstage (sorry, no referrence) and I realized that he really doesn’t even know what he doesn’t know. He was surrounded by people who would help him learn what he needs to learn, but I just don’t know if he can at this point.

  84. Danny has way more fans that Kristy Lee Cook ever did. She was just a pretty blonde and the judges never liked her.

    Singer with exceptional vocals don’t also need to write their own songs. I think Danny could make it in country on the “inspirational song front.” I think country values sincerity and he is very sincere in his beliefs. Although what he wants to do and what 19 wants may not be the same. So the deal could fall though.

    Danny puts alot of emotion into his singing. So on his good days, I put him on the short list of guys off Idol I liked: Elliott, Archie. But he also had alot of bad days and he really needs to work on his stage presence. So he’s a distant third after the other two guys. Plus I will be pissed that 19R made him the only 3rd place finisher they signed.

    Danny is not Joe the Plumber. He is not a pretender or a phony. You may not like what you see but he’s giving you the real deal. A phony would never be as honest to a fault. And in his own way, he’s more “real” than Adam who performs in a completely theatrical way.

  85. That editing timer is turning me into a post ho — that and my obvious work avoidance mode…

    I agree that he has never held back talking his wife and her families culture. And he has talked about how much her and her family loved Latin music. I definitely don’t think that he ever tried to hide it from anyone.

    I totally get that. But there is a significant difference between talking about all of that and choosing to sing a Latin infused number instead of Jesus Take the Wheel. :-)

  86. I beg to differ that Danny just sings and it means nothing, just singing as an advantage to himself whatever comes his way. pop, country, etc.
    Danny is the one singer on the show that sang with more feeling, heart, and emotion than any of the idols.
    That is what his appeal is in conjunction with an excellent voice.
    Some don’t see it. I think his appeal goes far in the general public, the internet non-Danny fans are a slim margin.

    I think there is too much emphasis imo, of genre or being an “artist”.
    You can put whatever title you want on them.
    But all it takes is getting a song that means something to the singer and the hearers, and good material, to get a hit record.
    And Danny fits well in the country mainstream.

    The only problem Danny had was less experience, and some voice training is ALWAYS beneficial for any singer. But he will grow in experience and become a seasoned performer.
    He has great potential, I’m sure they wouldn’t be talking to him otherwise, and he will just improve with time.

    So Adam has experience, and better performance skills along with voice training and a great vocal range.
    Kris has musical arrangement talent, more than vocal talent.
    Allison has a great voice, but she still has growing to do.

    imo Danny has just as much talent to get a record deal as Adam, Kris, or Allison, and deserves it just as much. Each has their own talents. And there are enough fans in the world to like who they like.

  87. The Republicans trotted out this guy, ‘Joe the Plumber,’  who confronted Obama at a neighborhood walk-around and was supposed to represent the ‘average person.’  Well it turns out the guy is not a licensed plumber and is not named Joe, but he is a certified tax evader and all-around layabout.

    LOL. Okay, thanks for the context. I tend to tune out the gamesmanship in US elections. It just goes to show you how in demand a good plumber is. During the apex of the US election, the parties were spending over $100M dollars a month campaigning, yet even the Republican party couldn’t find a decent licensed plumber.

    Anyway, I’m sure that if Danny does get signed, the label that signs him will have a vision for what they think he will do for them.

  88. That is exactly my problem with Danny. I remember hearing during the season that he mentioned being bored backstage (sorry, no referrence) and I realized that he really doesn’t even know what he doesn’t know. He was surrounded by people who would help him learn what he needs to learn, but I just don’t know if he can at this point.

    I couldn’t tell you how many idols I have heard mention how they get bored during the process at times because they have to “hurry up and then wait” all the time. So many of them have said that, but I guess the difference is that Danny mentioned it on the show.

    Anyway, that sparked all kinds of comments about how Danny must be a boring person….only boring people get bored. I remember someone here saying that “creative people never get bored.””

    A few days back I had to lmao when my sister, a certified Adam fanatic, found some information on the web about Adam. She was reading some of his quotes, and he said something to the fact of I get so bored all the time.

    People get bored. And I think in this case it’s kinda like they have to be in this place right now, and then don’t really know when they will be called upon to do the next thing, but they are waiting. Waiting is boring for most people.

  89. i really think Danny is stalling because he knows he can’t say anything until after the tour

    hate to say it but it’s most likely true

  90. that he really doesn’t even know what he doesn’t know.

    This simple statement totally sums up Danny for me. It’s not about all the “silly” things he does and says, its the fact that he doesn’t have a clue that they are silly or annoying. He just doesn’t have a grasp on real life and what it is all about and how to deal with it. It isn’t that he has a character fault it’s that he has no character.

  91. I totally get that. But there is a significant difference between talking about all of that and choosing to sing a Latin infused number instead of Jesus Take the Wheel. :-)

    Yeah, but as mentioned before, he did try to infuse latin into a number, but it didn’t work out. And just because it didn’t work out, doesn’t mean it couldn’t. Once must remember the time crunch these idols are under to try to arrange the music.

    Besides that, there is the clearance issue, so we really don’t and won’t ever know what his first choices were.

  92. What about people who don’t need inspiring and just wants to hear good music?

    Well, that’s really simple, if you don’t like him or his music, you just don’t buy it or listen to it. I do that with most artists out there.

  93. I think he’ll surprise some people.

    Me too. I think that the bar has been set so low for Danny by some, that all he has to do is step over it, and walk a few feet away from it, in order to be considered successful. If he gets a record deal/has gotten a record deal, then that means he has stepped over the bar that some people have set for him.

    Because some people don’t even think he’ll get signed by anyone. And if he gets a decent team behind him, including decent songwriters, and puts out at least one hit song, then he’ll come off as looking at least moderately successful.

    Hopefully if he does get signed, he’ll be given better songs to sing, than “No Boundaries” or “Want”. I think that those songs are awful, so hopefully Danny would sing better songs than those ones.

    I think that he has a chance to do decently in the music business. I don’t think that he is automatically guaranteed failure in the music business.

    I think that any of these guys with record deals or possible record deals (Adam, Kris, Allison,maybe Danny) will be very fortunate if they sell as well as David Cook has.

  94. edit: Don’t question the motives of your fellow posters

    And I have mixed feelings on his signing so I agree with many who think he’s not worthy. Although they signed Kristy Lee Cook so….

  95. imo Danny has just as much talent to get a record deal as Adam, Kris, or Allison, and deserves it just as much. Each has their own talents. And there are enough fans in the world to like who they like.

    I agree with this. They are all talented. Some will appeal to certain people more than others, and that’s okay. They all have fans, and their fans REALLY want to hear them put out some music beyond idol.

    I liked Adam on the show, but if he puts out electronica music as I’ve heard he might, I’ll take the inspirational ballads, thank you.

  96. lavender1960
    Nelly Furtado… {snip}… she’s Portuguese, not sure if she sings in Portuguese so she has new single in Spanish that is cool.

    Well, she’s Canadian born & raised (Victoria, BC); her parents immigrated from Porgugal. But that’s just splitting hairs, LOL.

    aek
    I don’t really see what difference it makes if Danny talks about the meetings or not. I’m sure he wouldn’t do it if he had been specifically asked not to.

    Because he has demonstrated such restraint and ability to keep his mouth shut thus far, yup. Sorry, that was sarcastic; couldn’t help myself.

    Danny has mystified me since day one. Maybe it’s simply because I grew up in a very liberal, well-traveled, open-minded (read: Buddhist) environment, but I just do not understand how someone can reach the age of 28/29 and know so little about the world, and be so closed-off and oblivious to other cultures/lifestyles/what-have-you. I guess I’m not only talking about Danny here, but anyway… Danny just seems so clueless and it does not make sense to me.

    What I’m struggling to understand at the moment, is Danny’s statement that he wants to make an album with R&B & Latin flavour. I know he loves salsa dancing, but the guy is as “white honky” as they come – what in the name of all that is good and right in this world makes him think that he would be able to sing Latino-style songs?!? I agree with whoever said he’d be good at ballads (as long as he doesn’t try and go for any huge glory notes), but Latin? Nuh-UH.

  97. I don’t really see what difference it makes if Danny talks about the meetings or not. I’m sure he wouldn’t do it if he had been specifically asked not to.

    Because he has demonstrated such restraint and ability to keep his mouth shut thus far, yup. Sorry, that was sarcastic; couldn’t help myself.

    Well, I agree that Danny does talk alot and he is an “open book” and very honest. He tends to say what’s on his mind at the moment.

    However, I do think that if he was specifically told not to talk about it, he wouldn’t. I really don’t see why it matters though. He either gets signed or he doesn’t.

  98. Having trouble keeping up the postings but has anyone noticed that Danny seems to be trying to say the right things in the press lately? I haven’t noticed as much talk about his foundation either.

    My hunch is that there is something in the works for Danny. He’s also testing out his image on his Twitter lately whether fans like the clean-cut or scruffy look.

  99. I don’t think Danny is stupid or has no character. I think that he is just a real person,unpolished maybe, but down to earth, and does not put on a phony front. I guess that may turn people off. He is used to speaking his mind.
    Personally though, I think Danny has good character and a sincere heart. I think he will learn, being new to the public eye, wisdom in what he speaks. But I never saw him as a douche or a terrible communicator in interviews or socially awkward either. That I never got at all.

  100. Having trouble keeping up the postings but has anyone noticed that Danny seems to be trying to say the right things in the press lately? I haven’t noticed as much talk about his foundation either.

    My hunch is that there is something in the works for Danny. He’s also testing out his image on his Twitter lately whether fans like the clean-cut or scruffy look.

    I really think he has something in the works and has either been signed by someone or will be signed by someone after the tour ends.

  101. I don’t know why Danny has ruled out Christian music since that always seemed like his niche. He could feel free to inspire away. Country seems like a real stretch as does anything Latin.

  102. he’s done well for himself starting in the country market

    I’m confused. Didn’t Phil get dropped by his country label because of low sales, etc.?

  103. Danny’s personality aside, I think not only he can sing he has a distinctive voice and a good tone. I’ve listened some of his studio recordings and I think they’re good and I’d recognize his voice anywhere. If he signs and makes a country album I can see him doing good, really good. Of course it comes down to promotion, but he seems to have a good enough fanbase, plus the whole christian thing should help.

    He seems to be a bit clueless, but with the right people working with him I don’t think that should affect him. Most people out there don’t really have that opinion about him. We follow him a lot but most don’t.

    Well, good luck to him. Even if he’s not signing keep making your fans think you will Danny, should make them more interested.

  104. exactly jx223 he is stalling his fans until after the tour

    he knows he can’t say anything

    that’s why he did that update yesterday about the right time

  105. I think the problem is this: Of course Danny will always have the core fans who will buy whatever he puts out. But on the show, there are fans of his soulful styles and would buy his album if it resembled that. Now, it seems like he might do country so he would have an uphill battle to climb because I doubt most people associated him as a country singer on the show. He seems to lack a lot of knowledge about country music in general and so he would come off as fake. Bucky, Kellie Pickler, etc are not as good of a singer as he is but country fans accepted them because they knew their heart was in it.

    I don’t see why he doesn’t do a contemporary christian album because that way he could do the music he would actually want to do because isn’t contemporary christian music basically the same as mainstream but they’re geared towards christians? He can always try and cross over from that afterwards. I don’t see his style as capturing a lot of the (non-AI) young audience, so he can just target to adults too.

    i wonder if 19 management will sign him or just do the 19R record deal thing like archie.

  106. Well I don’t think that the music Adam did on the show is indicative of the sound he’s going for now, so what’s the difference?

  107. Hopefully if he does get signed, he’ll be given better songs to sing, than ‘No Boundaries’ 

    Well, that would be nice for everybody, but good luck with it!

    That piece of junk was written by top songwriters who *knew* that the song would be sung by somebody and promoted to radio, sung numerous times on one of the most popular shows on network television, put on an album, etc. They weren’t even writing it on spec and yet this is the piece of drivel they came up with.

    Danny, like the rest of them, will probably mostly get songs of this calibre and some that are even worse, and it’ll be his job to make these sows’ ears into silk purses.

    I do think that Danny has a *voice* that could accomplish this. But I also think that you need a lot more sense of musicianship, sense of yourself as a musician, and so on in order to sing crap convincingly. I haven’t seen those in Danny to this point.

  108. Most people out there don’t really have that opinion about him.

    I think that this is the case as well.

    he knows he can’t say anything

    that’s why he did that update yesterday about the right time

    ITA. I don’t think he is able to really confirm anything right now, but eventually he will be able to.

  109. My hunch is that there is something in the works for Danny. He’s also testing out his image on his Twitter lately whether fans like the clean-cut or scruffy look.

    Yeah, I noticed that, too. So Canuck, which do you like…clean-cut or scruffy? lol. He seemed a little embarrassed about the clean cut look, though.

    I don’t think Danny is stupid or has no character. I think that he is just a real person,unpolished maybe, but down to earth, and does not put on a phony front. I guess that may turn people off. He is used to speaking his mind.
    Personally though, I think Danny has good character and a sincere heart. I think he will learn, being new to the public eye,

    I don’t agree with Danny on everything, but I do believe he has a lot of character and is sencere. I do think his first impulse is just to talk about what’s on his mind and in his heart.

    I think he is a good guy, and I think that is why everyone who knows him seems to like him, regardless of whether they come from the same background as him. Matt said that he didn’t think he would be close to Danny, because of their different opinions, but that he is closest to Danny. Anoop, who may be of a totally different religion than Danny (I am being presumptuous here), also spoke of Danny as being someone who is is closest with. This is one reason why I believe Danny when he said in one interview that he accepts all different types of people as they come and that he would never try to push his beliefs on someone else.

  110. I like the clean-cut! I hated his glasses… Change is always welcome.

  111. Having trouble keeping up the postings but has anyone noticed that Danny seems to be trying to say the right things in the press lately? I haven’t noticed as much talk about his foundation either.

    He starts to mention it in the Young Hollywood interview but they cut away from him. It’s when they are asking about the inspirations to wake up in the morning. Kris and Allison give cute joking answers.

    ETA:
    http://www.younghollywood.com/videos/filmtv/behind-the-scenes/american-idol-finalists-unplugged.html

  112. sony nashville announced the kellie pickler deal during the tour

    will they do the same for danny?

  113. His scruffy look is kind of sexy, did you see the picture of him at the airport d with Matt? He looks really good too clean-cut.

    I like the scruffy unshaven look but it doesn’t match his choirboy image. LOL

  114. edit: don’t put words in poster’s mouths. stop the fingerwagging

  115. It just goes to show you how in demand a good plumber is. During the apex of the US election, the parties were spending over $100M dollars a month campaigning, yet even the Republican party couldn’t find a decent licensed plumber.

    LOL!! You nailed it!

  116. The lingering questions:

    1. Is Danny dumb?

    2. Is Danny naive?

    3. Is he both 1 and 2 or just 1 or just 2.

    4. If he is just naive, why hasn’t he learned some of the ropes by now?

    5. Who told him to twitter so much info?

    6. Does he really think the recording executives like thier business so well known?

    7. Does Danny have anyone at all to mentor him?

    8. Why do the younger Kris and Allison have no problems with blurting things out?

  117. doing some research sony nashville released pickler press release on july 20th 2006

    so maybe Danny still has a chance

  118. Well I don’t think that the music Adam did on the show is indicative of the sound he’s going for now, so what’s the difference?

    Well, it’s mostly because Danny comes across to those who aren’t particularly invested as a bit of a whore. Need some back story? Well, here’s my dead wife. Need a niche? Well, here’s a few songs about Jesus and a little heart and some glasses frames. I’ll raise my teary eyes to heaven while I’m at it. Need to get a record deal? Well, I could sing latin/R&B fusion or hey…country…yeah I’ll do that. How do you want me to be, what do you want me to sing….I’ll do *that*. He’s a follower with the ego of a leader.

    He doesn’t have musical identity, and he’s too dense to play the game without revealing his hand. He won’t be successful unless he plans to do Branson. He can’t *ever* get his shit together, whether it is presenting himself well in interviews, having a cohesive PR plan, or starting a foundation in an organized fashion.

  119. From the interviewer:

    But I must point out that my own observations during my visit to the tour rehearsals indicated there was NO beef between any of the Idols. In fact, more than once that day, I witnessed Adam and Danny chatting, joking, laughing, and sitting comfortably together.

    I NEVER thought there was a feud between Adam and Danny. This was totally fabricated by those on the Internet that don’t like Danny….mostly because I think he was the “other” frontrunner. They were able to use the fact that he was a fundamentalist Christian to stir up fake controversy between him and Adam.

    Because of all of the postings about them not getting along, when I rewatched the season, I paid VERY close attention to the interaction between Danny and Adam. They often hugged very easily, made good eye contact, laughed at each others jokes, stood together in pictures, etc. When Danny was voted off, he immediately hugged Adam for a long time and said to the best of what I could figure out “I hope all of your dreams come true, I hope you get everything you want.” Adam looked sad and had a tear in his eye during Danny’s sing off, and he immediately went up to Danny and reached around Ryan to give Danny another big, long hug. Adam wasn’t lying when he said that they are friends….they may not be best friends, but I do believe that they like each other.

    It’s just another case of people making stuff up, and then believing it. It’s frustrating.

  120. jx223 i got banned at twop

    maybe you should post abut kellie pickler signing being announced DURING the tour

    so danny still has a chance

  121. Didn’t realize that Gokey is as polarizing as Adam. The difference only is that Adam is polarizing because he dares to be different while Gokey is polarizing because of his attitude.

  122. His scruffy look is kind of sexy, did you see the picture of him at the airport d with Matt? He looks really good too clean-cut.

    I like the scruffy unshaven look but it doesn’t match his choirboy image. LOL

    I haven’t seen the pictures from the airport. Where can I see them?

    I like scruffy probably, but could live without the glasses. It’s not that the glasses look bad on him, but I’m just not a glasses person, I guess. Not my thing.

  123. Well I don’t think that the music Adam did on the show is indicative of the sound he’s going for now, so what’s the difference?

    A whole lotta difference.

  124. .they may not be best friends, but I do believe that they like each other.

    Adam basically said in RS that they agreed to disagree. I doubt they have much to say to each other or spend much time hanging out.

  125. Well, it’s mostly because Danny comes across to those who aren’t particularly invested as a bit of a whore.

    To you, maybe, but not to me. Different strokes, I guess.

  126. i think for both pickler and daughtry, 19 knew they were going to sign them but they just waited to release the info out later, possibly because they had to talk about the top 2 first.

    if 19 does sign gokey, it’ll be the first time they sign the top 4. I don’t see them signing him to manage him though, more just the recording part

  127. Adam basically said in RS that they agreed to disagree. I doubt they have much to say to each other or spend much time hanging out.

    Well, the interviewer said that they did hang out together during rehearsal…and laughed and joked together.

    Just because Adam said that they agree to disagree does not mean that they wouldn’t hang out together. They obviously, as Danny said, decided to talk about religion. Danny said that they just wanted to hear each other’s point of view, and that they never got each other frustrated during their talks. All it means is that they decided during these talks that they just simply did not agree with each other.

    My sister, who is a very dedicated Adam follower, was telling me the other day that Adam, from her “research” had friends, good friends actually, who were stauch republicans. I would hazard to guess that Adam is a Democrat. Yes, I am being presumptuous, but that’s what I think.

    I have friends that don’t believe everything that I believe. God, where I live, I wouldn’t have any friends if this were impossible.

    I do think that they respect each other. Danny has said VERY good thing about Adam in the past and I do think that Danny really likes Adam as a person.

  128. Never really found Adam to be that different. He always reminds me of the cool kid at high school with the fancy hairdo and jacket trying to be different.

    Isn’t LA supposed to be hot? Everytime I see him he has a jacket on? Must be uncomfortable after awhile.

  129. I think Danny is getting signed just because he has a whole legion of fans from Idol. But.. I doubt he will be well received in the country scene.
    He’s just not that country IMO. But who knows?

    I really don’t care abut him.
    I am sad Matt Giraud will not get signed. He has so much potential. Bummer.
    I just hope after the tour something comes up for him.

  130. I will be surprised if 19R signs him though. They’ve never signed an entire top four before. And I agree they’ll probably pass on management. Although they haven’t announced who they’re managing yet. I’m guessing Adam and not sure about anyone else.

  131. Isn’t LA supposed to be hot? Everytime I see him he has a jacket on? Must be uncomfortable after awhile.

    Actually, No. Areas around LA, to the east, are hot and LA can have an occasional heat wave. But normally, the LA temperatures are quite pleasant.
    I was actually thinking about how Adam was going to handle the way he dresses when he gets in other parts of the country on this tour. Somehow, even though he grew up in San Diego, I can’t picture him with cargo shorts on and flip flops. LOL!

  132. Aek, the airport photo is at one of Danny’s fansites(heart one)

    Looks a little rough here, almost looks like he wants to let it all hang loose after talks with Sony.

  133. It doesn’t really matter to me whether Danny gets signed or not (not a fan of him or his voice), but I am amazed that he would tweet about this sort of thing before it was set in stone. Even if it was set in stone, to allow rumblings of this information out to the press (I think he did say something in a tour promo I saw) without an official press release from the label seems like such a bad PR move. Granted, Danny seems like a PR mess in general to me.

  134. I don’t know but Danny never originally said he wanted to be a country artist and didn’t show that on the show. People like Bucky, Kellie, and Carrie came on the AI show and we knew all season they wanted to do country. Is country music just now his choice of genre because he has no real direction to begin with?

  135. Well, the interviewer said that they did hang out together during rehearsal’ ¦and laughed and joked together.

    RS made it sound like they did not hang out together at all. I’m sure they’re polite to each other when they’re in the same spot, especially when reporters are around.

  136. I will be surprised if 19R signs him though. They’ve never signed an entire top four before.

    They did in Season 1. They even signed the 4th place finisher when RCA did not.

  137. Danny needed attention. So far, he’s not really into the news except when people wondered why Allison got signed and nothing on Danny. It’s only through his tweets that he gets attention and brings news to his fans.

  138. People like Bucky, Kellie, and Carrie came on the AI show and we knew all season they wanted to do country.

    Actually I think Bucky wanted to do a southern rock type thing….he got kind of guided into the country thing….but he is very southern and twangy.

  139. Can’t people be appreciated for their ability to sing? Must they be able to do everything else as well? I don’t know if Ella Fitzgerald wrote many of her hits, but I think she is amazing. Is Julie Andrews any less of a talented singer because she didn’t write the musicals herself?

    Absolutely right! This is my biggest problem with today’s music. So many of the songs are written by performers & hammered out quickly, so it’s no wonder there are so many horrible songs out there. Simplistic melodies and even more simplistic lyrics. Ella Fitzgerald, Frank Sinatra and others of that era sang the songs of professional composers like Cole Porter, Harold Arlen and many others. The best singers coupled with the best songwriters are what made “standards” that will live forever.

    It seems today that every singer wants to be, or is expected to be, a songwriter. That’s what makes so much junk music.

  140. No, Bucky was always country (i’ll admit that I am oddly a fan of his during the show and even bought his album). also, it seems pretty set that the top 2 is signed to 19M and I’m pretty sure so is Allison.. Archie didn’t because he wanted his dad to be part of his manager (or his dad insisted but whatever).

    also, i don’t think adam had a problem with danny, prob. more like the people around danny like his family and pastor, etc.

  141. also, i don’t think adam had a problem with danny, prob. more like the people around danny like his family and pastor, etc.

    I do want to add though, that when you say “family”, we are really talking about a cousin, and her friends…not immediate family.

  142. aek- yup, sorry.. too lazy to write it all out. hehe =) and I figured people already knew who I was referring to

  143. No, Bucky was always country (i’ll admit that I am oddly a fan of his during the show and even bought his album).

    I liked Bucky a little, too. Not the best singer in the world, but did have a cool tone, and a very likable personality. I could have sworn that Bucky originally was singing Lynard Skynard type music and said something about being mostly into that.

    But I’m not the biggest fan, and it’s been awhile, so you are probably right.

  144. aek- yup, sorry.. too lazy to write it all out. hehe =) and I figured people already knew who I was referring to

    It’s okay, AC, I just kinda feel for his parents and siblings if they are getting lumped into something of no making of their own. But I understand where you are coming from…if anyone doesnt know about it all on this blog by this point, I don’t know where they’ve been hiding.

  145. terfra Jul 2nd, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    I don’t think Danny is stupid or has no character. I think that he is just a real person,unpolished maybe, but down to earth, and does not put on a phony front. I guess that may turn people off. He is used to speaking his mind.
    Personally though, I think Danny has good character and a sincere heart. I think he will learn, being new to the public eye, wisdom in what he speaks. But I never saw him as a douche or a terrible communicator in interviews or socially awkward either. That I never got at all.

    I pretty much agree with you here. I’ve just never seen him as much as an artist and maybe he will grow in that area as well. He does have a nice voice and did have some moments on the show.

    ETA: I do wish him the best.

  146. I’m not a fan of Danny’s myself, but he does have a nice voice. His problems are that he doesn’t have any real musical identity and he seems totally clueless about both the contemporary music scene and what it takes to make it in the business. I remained confused about how someone who is almost 30 years old could be this seemingly naive — not just about the music business, but about the world in general. I realize his life revolved around his church and his wife, but he did work as a truck driver for years — I would have thought this work would have allowed him to see/learn more about the world.

    He also spends a lot of time talking about his “message” and how he wants to spread his “message” through his music. Personally, I hate entertainers or athletes or pretty much anyone in general who feel the need use their fame to preach to me…if I wanted to be preached to, I would go to church.

    In his “reality rocks” interview on yahoo, he talks about possibly going the “soul-country” route, but also repeats that he has no “twang.” Not sure how that will go over with the country music fans (I’m not a country music fan).

    If Danny gets a record deal, he is going to need a LOT of guidance from his label, managers, producers, etc, because unlike Adam, Kris and Allison, he seems totally unprepared to go out and try and make it in the business on his own. Those three have a clear sense of who they are as musicians and what they need to do in order to try and sustain a career in the business. I don’t think Danny does.

    I still think he’d be very successful as a contemporary Christian/gospel singer. I’m overgeneralizing here, but I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of his most ardent fans love that type of music. I’m more skeptical that he can be successful in the more mainstream music world, but stranger things have happened.

  147. I’m overgeneralizing here, but I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of his most ardent fans love that type of music. I’m more skeptical that he can be successful in the more mainstream music world, but stranger things have happened.

    I don’t know about his offline fans, but I think that the vast majority of his online fans would rather, he not go the Christian route. And either go the R&B/Latin route, or the country route, or for some singing standards.

    I think that the majority of people in his online fanbase want him to be a mainstream artist.

    I haven’t seen hardly any of his online fans say that they want him to go the Christian route. I have seen a lot of people say that they rather he not go the Christian route.

    I don’t know how most of his offline fans feel about that.

  148. girlygirl , i couldnt agree more w. your post. damn it, now i have nothing to say LOL

  149. As a fan I choose to follow someone who sings in a style that I feel comfortable identifying with whether it be glam rock/electronic or gravelly female rocker or singer/songwriter/unplugged. What would be interesting for me to understand is, since Danny doesn’t know or obviously really care what type of record he is involved with as long as he has a recording contract what do his fans think. Will they just accept whatever he is given to do and buy and listen because they like Danny whether they like the genre he ends up recording in.

    I would never buy an Allison album if she went “Disney”, I wouldn’t buy a Kris album if he went country, and I wouldn’t buy an Adam album if he went Michael Bolton no matter how much I love them. I do have my standards.

  150. Tess, I do think that fans of all idols are basically the same within reason. They often will give an idol a pass on their first album and buy it regardless. The next album not so much.

    But I do think if Danny goes the mainstream country route that is going to mostly appeal to his fans that are more inclined to like that kind of music, and the same with gospel or whatever. Those would be more inclined to stick with him the next time around. It would be hoped that the idols pick up non ai fans along the way.

    AI is kind of an alternate universe, though. These kids, all of them, will have some life long fans that will buy anything they put out, regardless of whether they really like it or not. AI fans get invested with the voting. This doesn’t apply to all voters, but it does apply to some. It certainly applies to all of the idols.

  151. I have friends that don’t believe everything that I believe. God, where I live, I wouldn’t have any friends if this were impossible.

    I do think that they respect each other. Danny has said VERY good thing about Adam in the past and I do think that Danny really likes Adam as a person.

    ITA
    Most people I think do not agree on everything. Many people have different religions and politics and can still be the best of friends.
    I know people who don’t agree with me, or I with them, yet I have a better relationship with them than some I know who have the same beliefs. Some things go beyond those things.
    Sometimes you just like a person and you connect and care about them.
    I personally think Adam and Danny get along better than some may think. That would be maturity.

  152. It’s a pity that modern vocalists and musicians can’t be a wee bit more eclectic.
    Boxing themselves into a tight genre is boring in itself – surely – both for them and their audience.

    I tend to ignore labels/genres and just go for what sounds good to me, ranging from country to light opera, with all kinds of stuff, from all eras, inbetween.

    I think there are a lot of people who don’t think in structured ways about musical genres, but they just listen out for anything which will catch their imagination, or that makes them feel good, or brings back a memory…..all kinds of reasons.

    A vocalist who varies style (as Adam promises to do and as Danny might be capable of doing in a different way) is going to last longer and reach wider than one who insists he/she is “a rocker” or “country” or whatever.

  153. As a fan I choose to follow someone who sings in a style that I feel comfortable identifying with whether it be glam rock/electronic or gravelly female rocker or singer/songwriter/unplugged. What would be interesting for me to understand is, since Danny doesn’t know or obviously really care what type of record he is involved with as long as he has a recording contract what do his fans think. Will they just accept whatever he is given to do and buy and listen because they like Danny whether they like the genre he ends up recording in.

    I would never buy an Allison album if she went ‘Disney’ , I wouldn’t buy a Kris album if he went country, and I wouldn’t buy an Adam album if he went Michael Bolton no matter how much I love them. I do have my standards.

    I don’t know about his offline fans, but from what I have seen the vast majority of his online fans would buy music from him, whether he went the country route of the R&B Latin route. I think that pretty much all of Danny fans (offline and online) will admit that they like his voice. And for most of the his online fans, that soulful voice alone is enough for them to buy his music. Whether that will be a country/soul album or an R&B Latin album.

    And there are some people that would love if he sung the standards and think that style of music would fit him the best. But even most of the people online who think that him singing the standards would suit him the best would still buy his music, if he put out something different from that like a country album. Or an R&B/Latin album.

    If he did put out a Christian album, there would be people in his fanbase, that would buy it, but I believe that more people would buy a mainstream album from him, than a Christian one.

    AI is kind of an alternate universe, though. These kids, all of them, will have some life long fans that will buy anything they put out, regardless of whether they really like it or not

    I think that a lot of people from the different online fanbases are like this. If they care about person and like their voice, that’s enough for them. And they will buy anything the person puts out.

  154. It seems today that every singer wants to be, or is expected to be, a songwriter. That’s what makes so much junk music.

    Well, that’s one of the reasons! I think another is that, rather than *anybody* writing songs because they’re the songs they want to write, most of the songwriters-for-hire shop themselves around to all and sundry, writing for anybody in any style, usually under the gun, and usually being told to produce something that fits into a very exacting pop format of the moment with a certain kind of hook and so on. Another is that there are so songwriting committees (other than songwriter/lyricist duos and bands, I mean.)

    There are a lot of reasons, really. At bottom, it’s the whole industrial approach to music-making, really, I think.

    That;s why I tend to like the alt stuff best in most genres, ecause there you’re more likely to find the songwriters or singer/songwriters writing something that they actually want to write rather than trying to put together a song the same way you order off a Chinese menu — hook from column A, lyric from Column B

  155. edit: didn’t I ban you once? Well, guess what! You are banned again.

  156. If Danny gets signed on a Country label, that means I won’t have to hear his music at all, as that genre is not popular at all where I live. He gets his deal, his fans get his music, and I won’t have to listen to him against my will. Sounds great to me.

  157. It’s a pity that modern vocalists and musicians can’t be a wee bit more eclectic.

    I think it’s probably less the performers than it is the record labels insisting on this.

    Seems like when somebody says they’re eclectic or switch up genres or something, there’s a lot of consternation from the business end about how that won’t work because you won’t know which label to put on them.

    I agree that it’s stupid. But I suspect that a lot of the actual performers would love to be more eclectic if they were allowed to get away with it.

  158. To me, I think Danny = Kat McPhee. They’re both good singers while lacking a musical identity on the show. If Danny does go the country route, he’ll follow Kat in making a cd that does not really fit who they are and though Kat’s idol fans bought her cd, her sales stalled because she was not able to pick up new fans. Kat is now under David Foster and I think she’s doing a more adult contemporary? album and I think that’s what Danny needs to do. He needs to hook up with Diane Warren so she can write him a bunch of (schmaltzy) ballads and then that’s how I can imagine him on John Tesh’s radio show (hehe.. for those that don’t know, he plays a lot music geared to a more mature audience).

  159. edit: don’t bait other posters. what does adam have to do with this discussion?

  160. Not defending anyone……there is a big difference in saying you have signed a recording contract (Allison, Adam, and Kris all spoke about their albums before the official announcement, but they had signed) and talking about going and talking about maybe having a record deal. In the Yahoo interview Danny said “I spoke to the President of 19 and I am going to Nashville because there are a few recording companies that have expressed a desire to talk to me”. He hasn’t signed, he hasn’t negotiated, he hasn’t done anything.

    I’m not upset with Danny for talking out of turn for any other reason than Danny is setting himself up for ridicule if the talks do not gel into a contract. There are things to tell your fans and there are things that should be close to the vest until they are true facts.

    As for Adam’s song list he has talked about the Bowie medley. A whole Lotta love came out because people heard it in the background of an interview, same with his Muse song where a snippet was heard. I believe he did confirm a duet with Allison and he may have said, though I don’t remember, that he was performing MadWorld.

  161. So Canuck, which do you like’ ¦clean-cut or scruffy? lol. He seemed a little embarrassed about the clean cut look, though.

    The phrase “lipstick on a pig” comes to mind.

  162. “Never really found Adam to be that different. He always reminds me of the cool kid at high school with the fancy hairdo and jacket trying to be different.”

    Compared to the sea of plaid we saw week after week this year, Adam definitely dressed differently.

    I agree with alot of AEK’s sentiments regarding this article. I think Danny is a good singer, I liked his voice second of all the idols after Adam’s. Like I’ve said before, most of my offline friends, family and co-workers were either Adam or Danny fans. His gravelly voice is the type of voice I usually like to listen to from a guy, but Adam’s this year just blew me out of the water. My ranking of singing for this year for the top 5 would be Adam, Danny, Allison, Kris and lastly Matt. I do have to admit, if Matt’s nerves would have been more controlled and he could have kept control of his falsetto and riffing, he probably would have been number 4. I liked Kris for his ability for playing instruments, I thought playing instruments brought an extra dimension to his performances. His song arranging, eh, it was hit or miss for me. I love Allison’s voice, but her enunciation drove me crazy and I didn’t like many of her song choices. I’m not going to go into what I think about Adam, because I’d like to finish this post before it’s time for me to go to bed.

    Danny lost me during the season because his performances became one-note. He never wowed me, or surprised me during the season. A major part of why he never did that is his lack of musical knowledge and popular music. On Idol, he had to pick his own songs, songs that he’d never heard before alot of times. Am I excusing his lack of knowledge? Not at all. He had plenty of time between Hollywood week and the start of the show to acquaint himself with popular music. I mean really, did Idol do one theme this year that hadn’t been done before in previous years?? The only one I can think of is maybe Classic Rock Week. Danny could have done some internet research, youtube research or even talking to friends to get some information about popular music. That being said, in the real world, where he either writes his songs (doubtful for a 1st album) or has PROFESSIONALS picking his songs for him, I think he could do well, because while he is not the best trained voice, he can sing.

    I think Danny gets a bad rap because he is unfiltered, he doesn’t think about what he says before he says it. He’s like Adam alot in that way. The difference is that when Adam says something maybe he shouldn’t, he’s articulate enough to either explain what he meant in a more likeable manner or he charms the interviewer and the reading, watching or listening public so that it doesn’t seem as bad. Danny can’t do that. Do I expect him to be able to do it? Naaah…not really. After thinking about each of their experiences, Adam has been in the Hollywood bubble for a long time, he’s been around more people that have those PR skills and has probably learned from them. Danny doesn’t have that same experience nor those skills. I think at this point, Danny has been hammered so much on the internet and twitter, that he’s got to be so much more careful about what he says than anyone else in the top 10.

    That’s my take on the situation and I think I’m sticking to it. :ponder_tb:

  163. Bucky was always country, he never said otherwise not once. In every way, every single week, it was always obvious that he was country.

    It never fails to amaze me how every year, former contestants and former seasons get re-written and misinformation gets passed down. I don’t think anyone could have watched that season and had any doubt that Bucky was a country singer. He said so every week, the judges said so every week.

    I think Danny gets a bad rap because he is unfiltered, he doesn’t think about what he says before he says it. He’s like Adam alot in that way.

    Wha??? I don’t think Danny and Adam are in any way alike, especially in this way. Danny puts his uncouth foot in his mouth over and over, while Adam has mostly been cool, savvy, and thoughtful in his comments. Adam has not said things to insult and belittle other people, the way Danny does. Adam doesn’t make crass comments like “we’re in it for the money.” He has more tact in his little finger than Danny has in his whole body.

    there is a big difference in saying you have signed a recording contract (Allison, Adam, and Kris all spoke about their albums before the official announcement, but they had signed) and talking about going and talking about maybe having a record deal.

    I totally agree. I have felt all along that Danny shouldn’t be talking about a record deal that he hadn’t even signed yet. Very uncool and unprofessional. The guy is a loose cannon and I am sure tptb are noticing it.

    And for most of the his online fans, that soulful voice alone is enough for them to buy his music. Whether that will be a country/soul album or an R&B Latin album.

    I don’t get that kind of thinking about music. There’s a big difference between a country album and an r&b/latin album. Also, a lot of people today don’t seem to expect artists to have any sort of integrity, any sort of inner guide about what music moves them. It’s like, “whatever, anything goes,” in the pursuit of making a few bucks. Today it’s like music is just a product, the singers are just commodities, and they should do whatever will sell. It’s so different than what I’m used to, where music is not a commodity and singers are actually artists and not salespeople. To me someone like Danny has no musical integrity and he will happily go wherever they tell him to go. He looks desperate to cash in. So yeah, based on that, I hope his ploy (and the record company’s ploy) does backfire.

  164. I think at this point, Danny has been hammered so much on the internet and twitter, that he’s got to be so much more careful about what he says than anyone else in the top 10.

    Yeah, and I think that makes it that much harder to articulate. I think he often looks nervous out of his eyes because he knows that he’s going to take a beating pretty much no matter what he says. I mean maybe I’m reading it into him, but that’s what I see.

    His last performance of YASB during top 3 night, when he said that he just had to clear his head and come out with a fresh head and heart and not worry about all of the opinions, I knew he had been beaten down by the Internet “bullies.” I think this affected him during the latter part of the season.

    I think Danny is a good singer, I liked his voice second of all the idols after Adam’s. Like I’ve said before, most of my offline friends, family and co-workers were either Adam or Danny fans. His gravelly voice is the type of voice I usually like to listen to from a guy, but Adam’s this year just blew me out of the water. My ranking of singing for this year for the top 5 would be Adam, Danny, Allison, Kris and lastly Matt. I do have to admit, if Matt’s nerves would have been more controlled and he could have kept control of his falsetto and riffing, he probably would have been number 4.

    Yeah, my lineup is very similar. I probably actually like Danny’s “voice” the best, but Adam had too much going on with his performing skills, range, style, etc. for me to put Danny over him. But I do love to hear Danny sing. Allison was also next for me, but I tend to think she is a little rougher around the edges than Danny, personally. She’s very young, though, and I suspect those things will be worked out. I tend to lean toward Matt next, but admit that he was not as consistent as Kris…..but on his best days, for me, Matt is better than Kris on his best days…if that makes any sense.

  165. Danny is the Joe The Plumber of the music industry.
    Best quote of the night.

    Even Carrie Underwood, who was the ultimate AI ‘vessel’  – pretty face, good voice, no real personality or identity – had some concept of who she was and what worked for her, and that was country music.

    Again, I have to wonder if people actually watched the past seasons if they didn’t know that Bucky was country and Carrie was country. Carrie was always country, from day one. She never wavered, she never wondered what her “identity” was. Of course she had to sing different genres each week, but she was always country, the judges knew it, the audience knew it, there was no mystery or ambiguity about it. It was always known that she would put out country music when it was over. She was never an empty vessel, never. Just like Allison always knew she was a rocker, Carrie was always a country singer.

  166. Wow, I am so late to this party. I’ll keep it brief:

    1. I think Danny is a good-hearted, sincere guy.

    2. I think Danny has a great voice.

    3. I think Danny’s great voice is buried under a lot of bad habits picked up from years of singing in a worship-singer-on-stage style.

    4. That said, he could still get a hit if he’s matched with just the right song.

    5. But he has a long way to go before he can sustain a high level career IMO. He just doesn’t know how to use his voice.

    6. He also seems to lack the savvy needed to make the most of this short window of opportunity.

    7. Good luck to him.

  167. “How can a so called singer produce decent music if they don’t know anything about it. This is art we’re talking about, not some factory assembly line producing generic one hot hit wonders. Must we cheapen all aspects of our culture to the value of dollar?!”
    This is exactly what I fear about Adam’s Music. And though Danny hasn’t the best personality in the world, it is hard to deny that he may produce songs of a bit more quality and meaning behind them.
    I also Agree that he doesn’t have more marketability than Anoop and more Matt Giraud (whom I was sure would be the next signed).

    Oh well…Wish the best to Danny and we will see…

  168. There are 182 comments on Danny’s possible record deal. For a guy who many online keep saying they want to go away, he sure seems to have a lot of interest and having almost 75,000 followers on twitter ain’t bad either.

    Check out Danny’s latest tweet with pic of the Top 4.

    http://yfrog.com/0m36jmj check this

  169. LOL at Danny twittering so much info… typical.

    Anyway, if he was to be signed, why is it taking so long? It’s been almost a month (or more than?) since we heard of Kradison’s deals, why is Danny’s deal taking so long to finish? Hmmm.

    Honestly, I just want him to be signed to some small Christian label, release songs exclusively available to his church and foundation so we won’t ever have to hear from him again.

  170. what’s the rush for Danny to sign? It’s not as if he’s in competition with Kris, Adam, or Allison to be the first one to release an album since his fanbase is most likely a different niche.

    I’d be more worried if I was one of those three. No wonder they’re madly slapping songs together with songwriters.

  171. Was there a question about whether or not Bucky Covington was country on the show? I didn’t watch that season, but my hubby who knows quite a bit about country (brother in Nashville pretty much in the country scene), told me recently that Bucky was OMG country, with no doubt about it.

  172. Seriously, all professional negotiators are appalled with Danny’s public comments regarding the progression of his record dealings.

    Who are these professional negotiators, and for what business reason would they be appalled? I have negotiated many business deals. At times, such as with the acquisition of a competitor, it’s very important that the discussions are not publicly revealed. In other cases, people are quite open about saying that a potential collaberation is under discussion.

    In this case, what is shocking about Danny “revealing” that he is in discussions or that other people have expressed interest? Doesn’t the organization that he has mentioned meeting with have an exclusive on him for a period of time? What in the hell would be shocking about them discussing it together? And what harm is there in saying that others have expressed interest? None. If it doesn’t work out, then Danny says that they didn’t come to an agreement. It happens all the time. BFD.

    I think that this has about as much weight as the one where Danny cruelly handed Adam a humiliating photo to sign because he hates him and wanted to embarrass him, except, oh yeah, the photo was of Adam in costume for a role that I believe he was quite proud of. And these two guys like each other and express friendship for each other, which is of course quite inconvenient. ;)

  173. Yikes, I just read my post above and I have a typo and it won’t let me edit it, but “collaberation” should of course be collaboration. Oh I just hate it when that happens!

  174. And though Danny hasn’t the best personality in the world, it is hard to deny that he may produce songs of a bit more quality and meaning behind them.

    Truthfully, I don’t find that hard to deny at all.

    Aside from the huge talent gap, to me, Adam has more life experience and substance to draw from than Danny. And the quality of his work so far eclipses Danny’s. As for meaning, we have BoW, ToMT, MW, IICHY, FG, One, Cryin’, ACIGC and even NB as examples, as well as the many, many awesome pre-Idol songs he chose to cover. All in all, for me, for you, for me, not hard at all. :-)

    Mileage…

  175. And though Danny hasn’t the best personality in the world, it is hard to deny that he may produce songs of a bit more quality and meaning behind them.

    I respectfully disagree. I am sure that there is a very heartfelt feeling in the Danny fan camp that his songs will come from the heart because of his life experiences. But in order, IMHO, for that feeling to manifest itself in song the singer must be able to emote that feeling not just talk about it. As has been referred to before, Danny wants to inspire through his words but he doesn’t know how to show it without talking about it. Real emotion is in body language and the eyes and the way someone breaths. And Danny doesn’t seem to know how to use his body. And if a singer doesn’t use all of himself to sing then the song is only about the voice and nothing more and it falls flat and doesn’t stir the soul of the listener.

    I have listened to enough music in my life that I know when the songs are heartfelt. I know when someone “touches” me with their voice. Oftentimes I don’t even hear the words just the emotion. That is a singer that is meaningful.

  176. There may be 182 comments here, but there are quite a few from the same people. I don’t think the comments here or the amount of people following him on twitter will have much to do with his album sales.

    I think we all just have to wait and see how well Danny will do. I personally don’t think he is all that great and never liked him as a performer, but he does have some fans. I don’t think the judges did Danny any favors by over praising him. This is one of the reasons why so many people dislike him. It’s not just people on the internet that don’t like his music style. I know many people that don’t follow AI on the internet and they never got Danny. I’ve actually haven’t met a person that likes Danny other than here on the internet.

  177. I just have to say that just because Danny needs more training and experience with his performance skills, does not mean his singing is not heartfelt.
    The reason Danny is popular and was a frontrunner was because he DOES sing from the heart and the voting public were touched.
    So he does need some experience, but he is getting that.

    And to tell the truth, sometimes these so called “performing skills”(movements,gestures,facial expressions), are just being acted out to look good and it is just performing.
    Sometimes it is more phony than anything.
    To me a heartfelt vocal is when the singer loses themselves in a song and lets go and sings from the heart, just not even caring what they look like in the emotion of it.
    That is Danny. And why he has plenty of fans that see it and appreciate him.
    I think a lot of singers are just performing and too conscious of their looks more than being into the song and the meaning. They “do” all the right movements and thats just not real imo.

  178. Danny definitely can make someone feel the music that he is singing but that would really depend on who you are and your own life experiences.
    And are you feeling the music or just listening to the words of the song?

    No, he’s not going to connect with everyone but it s doubful that any of the top three does.

  179. “Aside from the huge talent gap, to me, Adam has more life experience and substance to draw from than Danny. And the quality of his work so far eclipses Danny’s. As for meaning, we have BoW, ToMT, MW, IICHY, FG, One, Cryin’, ACIGC and even NB as examples, as well as the many, many awesome pre-Idol songs he chose to cover. All in all, for me, for you, for me, not hard at all. :-)”

    Yes that is the music Adam has done on the show, but it is not, unfortunately, what he describes his post-idol music to be (and it is the music we will recieve after the show that I was referring to).

    But it is pretty obvious that while I found it very difficult to enjoy Adam on the show, he is, FOR NOW, the break-out star of season 8 though he did not win.

    We will see…

  180. I could have sworn that Bucky originally was singing Lynard Skynard type music and said something about being mostly into that.

    I remember him doing both. But southern rock is really a genre pretty close to country. It morphs into country quite easily, especially as country gets more rock-y.

  181. TWI, I agree with you 100% on your post. I for one will support Danny no matter But I’d like to see him have an eclectic mix on his album.

  182. Wow. Knock off the fan-war shit peeps. Just banned a couple of posters! Yay me!

    Keep what’s left of this post FOCUSED ON THE SUBJECT.

    If fans are dissing your favorite the WRONG ANSWER is to bait them. Leave fans of other Idols OUT OF THE DISCUSSION.

    A couple of very chatty posters here are close to being put in moderation.

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