American Idols Earn the Big Bucks

A reporter from the New York Times got a hold of the Idol contracts from last year, and is reporting a breakdown of the earnings for the Idol Top 12.  Read it here:

Factoids:

  • Kris has earned $650, 000*
  • Winners have never failed to earn $1M in the year or so after the contest
  • Top 5 earn close to $100K from the show*
  • Top 10 several thousand dollars.*
  • Contract binds contestant to pay 15 percent of his earnings, not including those from recording and merchandising contracts, a manager’s fee. Contract is for 3 years, 19 continues to collect for 10 years for some of the earnings

*Not including the summer tour

Kris Allen:

  • an advance of $350, 000 for his first album, exclusive of recording costs, half of it paid soon after the competition ended and half when he finished recording.
  • Disney paid Mr. Allen $100, 000 to turn to a camera and shout, “I’m going to Disney World”
  • He stood to earn another $100, 000 for spending a day filming scripted dialogue segments for use in the attraction and for taping a vocal performance for the Walt Disney World Christmas Parade television show.
  • received a $100, 000 advance on royalties from a three-year merchandising contract, which gives 19 Entertainment the right to use his image to promote goods and services.

Adam Lambert:

  • Earned $300, 000 in advance royalties for his album,
  • $75, 000 merchandising contract
  • $50, 000 in fees from Disney World for the Idol Experience attraction.

Top 12 contestants:

  • receive a one-time payment of $1, 000 and a $1, 000 advance on royalties for each iTunes recording.
  • group number performance fees under the union contract with Aftra.
  • Aftra contract pays the artists from $1, 011 for a one-hour show to $1, 540 for a two-hour episode,
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101 Comments

  1. On the one hand, even with a 15% cut to management, that sounds like decent money for all these kids many of whom were working day jobs and making peanuts to play music.

    On the other hand, it sounds like chump change compared to how much 19 makes off them.

  2. Interesting, that’s good money to debut a recording carreer but Fox/19 makes much more from the show.
    Wonder why nobody had the idea to look for the under laws contracts before this year.

  3. First not to shabby from what either was earning last year. So this should stop all the Kris fans from feeling Kris is not being treated as the winner. He is making more money then Adam and from what I see a significant amount more. In every area he is signed to lager cuts. I am not saying he should or shouldn’t because I think some area Kris should make more because he is the winner, but, other areas like merchandising and being a spokesperson I don’t think Kris should make more just because he is the winner. I really don’t understand why Adam’s merchandising contract is only $75,000. Is that also an Advance number like Kris’s and he will be getting royalties as his likeness sells. If not he screwed himself when it comes to this part of the money making. It was clearly stated his merchandising stuff out sold all the others by a large margin during the tour and regardless how anyone feels his stuff does sell better then the others. One time it is great to have wealthy OTT fans. LOL.

    All in all though they are both doing fine. Heck I’ll take it. :-)

    MJ how much did they make for the summer tour. I thought I heard Each got $100,000K or did Kris and Adam get more because the sets were longer? (I guess Danny and Allison too)

  4. $100,000 to shout that? No wonder they were mad Kris wasn’t doing it like they wanted.

  5. Dhunken- I assume that the merchandising amounts are advances on royalties and that adam and kris will receive additional royalties above and beyond that when earned. So if adams merchandise sold a lot more he will make more

  6. does anyone have an idea how contestants not signed to 19 management fare – i wonder if for someone like david a it’s better, or comparable, since he is with azoff management… according to forbes mag, for 2008 he raked in 1.3 million, but there was no breakdown, and 2009 looked to be a very lucrative year for him… this is interesting stuff…

  7. How does the advance on the album work? Kris got $350k but hasn’t sold that many yet. I wonder if the first $350K would go to the label to reimburse them the advance, or if they take some kind of split until it’s paid off.

    Very cool to see they don’t have to struggle anymore.

  8. I guess I am naive, but I thought that Kris and Adam would have made more than that off there contracts.

  9. Nobody stated this except for Adam’s fans, many who didn’t even go to the concerts. I’m not saying that his stuff didn’t sale more, just that nobody in a position of authority ever stated this.

    receive a one-time payment of $1,000 and a $1,000 advance on royalties for each iTunes recording.

    I wonder if this mean that everyone only sees $1000 for each itunes recording, so no matter how many copies are sold, they don’t receive any of the profits.

    I wonder how many of these other payments are just one time deals, and the contestants don’t see any money other than that one lump sum payment.

  10. ggdoorsfan, I think the things mentioned here are for every contestant. Archie also signed with 19 when he joined AI. I think this is not about their post AI management contracts but the AI contracts.

  11. I believe Taylor was the first(perhaps the only) winner to not sign with 19(either 19M or 19E or whatever) Taylor fans have had this contract discussion over and over and a number of fans feel he was punished by TPTB by not signing with whatever 19 group he didn’t sign with. It is very interesting stuff.

  12. ggdoorsfan, I think the things mentioned here are for every contestant. Archie also signed with 19 when he joined AI. I think this is not about their post AI management contracts but the AI contracts.

    so he may still be bound in some way to 19 – dang… that would kinda suck, but that’s business, i guess… i’m curious as all get out now about the particulars of these idol contracts… i hope we get more details from those in the know……

  13. that’s a good pay for sure!
    Kris did well in it’s shout out for disney! Geez!! 100K for this!! just wow…
    and 100K for the Christmas parade thing.. wow again
    for the album it’s only an advance. I wonder how much they are making per album sold

  14. I believe Taylor was the first(perhaps the only) winner to not sign with 19(either 19M or 19E or whatever) Taylor fans have had this contract discussion over and over and a number of fans feel he was punished by TPTB by not signing with whatever 19 group he didn’t sign with. It is very interesting stuff.

    I’m pretty sure this isn’t the case. As the article states, it’s not the contestant’s call whether or not they sign with 19M(amangement) and/or 19R(ercords). Contestants can’t make the top 24/36 without first signing a contract agreeing that 19 has the right to sign them to a recording or management contract. Only 19, not the contestants, have the right to end the contract before a specific period of time. Remember, that everyone in season 8’s top 36 was signed through August 18.

    I don’t remember if Simon Fuller signed Taylor to 19M, but he was definitely with 19R, just like everyone else.

  15. I don’t get the advance on the album part. How does that work? Does that mean that Adam is making more off the album now that he has sold that much and Kris is still not making anything off the album b/c he has not?

  16. but, other areas like merchandising and being a spokesperson I don’t think Kris should make more just because he is the winner. I really don’t understand why Adam’s merchandising contract is only $75,000. Is that also an Advance number like Kris’s and he will be getting royalties as his likeness sells. If not he screwed himself when it comes to this part of the money making. It was clearly stated his merchandising stuff out sold all the others by a large margin during the tour and regardless how anyone feels his stuff does sell better then the others. One time it is great to have wealthy OTT fans. LOL.

    I dont think adam had a choice in how the merchandise contract is drafted. its probably the same, from year to year. thus, as it should be, Kris gets the bigger merchandise deal as the winner, and the runner up gets a similar but lower amount.

    btw, OTT fans YES, but you dont need to have lots of money to buy an Idol tshirt, you just need to have the balls to wear it. LOL i went to the concert in LA, but sorry i would be caught dead wearing one of those shirts. at least not at my age, and not in LA.

  17. geez, kinda thought it would be more money.After someone like Adam pays 19/RCA, his publicist, his stylist and her assistant, his manager, that blonde girl (personal assistant?) and who knows who else, no wonder he recycles his clothes! But he and some of the other idols will have great futures and the opportunity to earn big bucks I think. So no worry.

  18. don’t get the advance on the album part. How does that work? Does that mean that Adam is making more off the album now that he has sold that much and Kris is still not making anything off the album b/c he has not?

    it means both guys get that amount (350 for kris, 300 for adam), regardless of album sales. unfortunately, we dont know what their contracts say about % made from each album and single sold. i recall TLC had financial issues because despite selling a lot of music, their cut from their record company was virtually nonexistent. and eventually they ended up broke and bankrupt.

  19. Advances are just what they sound like. They are advances against future royalties/payments. Generally an artist never has to pay back an advance. If sales do not cover the advance then the record company loses. if sales do generate income in excess of the advabce the amount of the advance gets “repaid” to the record company and once it is the artist starts earning money again. Wrt merchandising, same thing. Kris keeps 100k no matter what but will receive additional royalties after the 100k mark is hit. So both kris and adam stand to earn a lot more from idol than these amounts. This is super simplistic explanation but u get the gist of it

  20. Did anyone ever dig up such details for David Cook, and the others from his year?

  21. It doesn’t take into account the percentage they must pay to the union, AFTRA, either. The booking agent takes 10%. An attorney usually takes 5%. Not to mention Uncle Sam’s cut. Plus, imagine having given up your “day job” to compete on Idol. You had to give up your apartment, maybe. Or kept it and still pay rent, etc or a house payment. Some even have families to support.

  22. Hmm interesting. Those are lower than I thought for some reason.

    Well I hope that Kris and Adam do well going forward in selling songs/albums…they’ll need that luck.

    And still better not some bad seed money, and certainly better than they would have gotten otherwise.

  23. For anyone who wonders how royalty payments work…
    When someone is signed, he gets an advance. In many cases it’s like Kris’ – part on singing, part on completion of album/book/whatever. That money goes “against” what the person’s product (here, a CD) brings in for the company. Let’s say the artist got an advance of $100,000. That person can’t make any money in royalties until he earns back that amount from the record company. So first sales must surpass $100,000, plus many more thousands of dollars to allow for other staff, distribution, and recording costs. Only after all of that money is balanced out does a person earn money on royalties. Even at that point, he only gets a small amount from each CD or download sold, so it takes quite a while to build up money beyond the contract amount. However, if he gains huge popularity, he can end up making quite a lot. The record company tries to predict how much an artist will make, and not pay out an advance that’s too high (so they lose money right off) or too low (so the artist ends up taking in more and more money from royalties down the road). Profits also depend on who holds the rights to the songs at any given point. The company may pay an artist top dollar for all rights, then turn around and make back lots of money by licensing songs for commercials or TV shows. If the artist keeps those song-use rights, he is likely to make less money right off, but can earn his own money by selling his songs for different uses (though he probably has fewer connections than the company for doing so).

  24. btw, OTT fans YES, but you dont need to have lots of money to buy an Idol tshirt, you just need to have the balls to wear it. LOL i went to the concert in LA, but sorry i would be caught dead wearing one of those shirts. at least not at my age, and not in LA.

    I bought two, use them for the gym and to sleep in.

  25. As far as merchandising, if and when Adam has a fan club, wonder what I would buy? Probably the spork…oh hell, I’d buy everything!!

  26. This is interesting information. I’m sure it just scratches the surface of the financial aspects of these artists’ careers.

    There are probably daily expense allowances, definitely profits per digital single sold, and possibly some level of income each time a song is played on the radio.

    Yes, there are expenses involved while being a contestant on the show, as well as for family members who travel out to see the show every week (they pay as far as I know).

    I think Kirsten had outlined some of these items in other posts.

    I remember them being asked the question about getting paid on the LKL show, and I remember Adam saying that 19E was very generous. My guess is these artists are just happy to be paid for what they love doing!

  27. it means both guys get that amount (350 for kris, 300 for adam), regardless of album sales. unfortunately, we dont know what their contracts say about % made from each album and single sold. i recall TLC had financial issues because despite selling a lot of music, their cut from their record company was virtually nonexistent. and eventually they ended up broke and bankrupt.

    Most artists don’t make their money on album sales, especially not the first album. The majority of their money is going to come from touring and merchandising.

    Given the amount of shows that he’s done, I think Kris has probably made more than $350K. I wonder if 19 and Jive are sharing that money.

  28. Given the amount of shows that he’s done, I think Kris has probably made more than $350K. I wonder if 19 and Jive are sharing that money.

    So are you talking the Asian tour, because besides the Las Vegas gigs, hasn’t Kris been doing parts of radio shows, like the Jingle and Meet balls. Is he paid a lot for those? Or am I just missing shows of his?

    And so are you saying that this Asian shows made more than 350k?

  29. radio shows, like the Jingle and Meet balls. Is he paid a lot for those?

    I doubt they’re paid more than “union minimum scale”. The radio stations basically ‘blackmail’ artists into doing those shows (play our show & we’ll play your song). Note the low ticket prices.

  30. So are you talking the Asian tour, because besides the Las Vegas gigs, hasn’t Kris been doing parts of radio shows, like the Jingle and Meet balls. Is he paid a lot for those? Or am I just missing shows of his?

    And so are you saying that this Asian shows made more than 350k?

    On average, an appearance fee is $100,000. Kris has had other gigs besides the radio sponsored contests, and even with those, I think some were probably for free while others were paid gigs.

    I wanted to add that it’s not just a situation where Kris and Adam have to make the 300K back, since the advance doesn’t take into account how much the labels have to spend to make the albums, as well as promotional costs. I’d think that all of that plus the advance has to be taken care of before the artist sees his cut.

  31. On average, an appearance fee is $100,000. Kris has had other gigs besides the radio sponsored contests, and even with those, I think some were probably for free while others were paid gigs.

    So you’re saying Kris was making 100K for those two small Las Vegas shows. And I don’t think he was making that for those Jingle/Meet balls, because it’s isn’t the legal payola? so sure he got paid, it wouldn’t be legal otherwise, but 100K a pop? That seems a bit high, like how would the station be making money, so have those balls with really expensive acts? Like wouldn’t the money for the acts be low, and the reward is understood to be spins? Or maybe I’m just not understanding how it goes.

    And what is considered an “appearance,” where he would be paid that kind of money?

    Maybe I’m just not getting it, but I just don’t see the shows, outside of his Asian ones, especially the Phillipines ones and the KL one, that would garner that kind of cash.

    But I don’t follow Kris enough, outside of his Asian shows, which shows specifically do you think Kris was earning 100K for an “appearance”? Because given how small, say, the Las Vegas ones, how would is make sense for them to pay Kris 100K for that?

    Am I missing something about Kris’s performances/appearances?Like does he get paid for things, regardless of the venue size, because he’s the American Idol winner? And if so, which ones do you think taht is?

    Really, I’m a newbie at how the AI part of this works. But my undestanding that part of making a profit is what the talent charges, vs how much the venue can make off of that person from tickets, booze, food, whatever.

  32. Didn’t these guys get like .16 per download during the season. I know they both sold about 1,000,000 downloads after the finale (yes?). So that is $160,000 right there. And I’m sure they sold just as much, if not more, during the idol season (which we don’t have numbers for.)

    Pretty good stuff for these guys.

  33. I don’t know…doesn’t really sound like a lot of money by the time these guys pay their overhead expenses. But, I do remember Adam doing some private gigs too that probably gave him a hunk of pocket change. The private birthday party he did in Louisiana was rumored to be a six figure gig, so I guess if you did a few of those type events along the way you could be sitting pretty good in a short time. Regardless, it’s all good….they’re definately doing better today because of Idol than they were a year ago. Hard to put a dollar value on the opportunity that show gave them.

  34. Good for them. They deserve it. The show makes gazillions. Partly because of the unknowns who perform on it. The show gives them amazing opportunities, but they earn them. I’m glad they’re generously compensated later for all they do to entertain us.

    And 100 grand just for saying “I’m going to Disney World!” That’s pretty cool.

  35. Ah yes the private shows, I remember now that Kris did one as well. So there’s that, no idea if he made 100K from it, but I’m he did well from it.

  36. Kris gets money from the Ford commercials, I would imagine. Wonder what cook and archie netted from that big (huge) concert they did together last year (in asia or wherever). I think Hicks got quite a bit for doing the Walmarts Stockholder thing (or whatever store corporate thingie it was). I wonder how much archie made on the christmas tour. Ok, let me just say I am SO nosey about this. Have always been curious how much many of them make and how they make it (net, not gross). It’s just never is discussed, like it’s a hush-hush subject. Then again, probably nobody knows. I bet a lot of them are doing VERY well financially though ;)

  37. Disney paid Mr. Allen $100,000 to turn to a camera and shout, “I’m going to Disney World”

    O_O Whoaahh! Mickey is one wealthy mouse!

  38. Well the Walmart thing, and Ford thing, I would see Kris being paid big bucks for, because they’re corporations.

    How much money does Kris get from the Ford commericals? Maybe like the Disney thing, 100K for them all. I mean, Ford is a major sponsor, so it’s Kris doing the commercials, like part of the show’s deal? Kind of a version of what the Idols have to do every week on the show for Ford. I’m curious because I honestly never thought about this before and we have no data into it.

    Oh and I am curious about what previous winners and runners-up have gotten now, as well. Is that acessible in the same way? Hmmmm.

  39. Just a few of the other shows that Kris has done:
    Live in the Vineyard
    Walmart Shareholders Meeting, Ford Convention, and the CES Convention
    Miami Dolphins Tailgate

    I used the 100,000 number, because on average that’s what past alums have gotten. I doubt that most of the radio gigs paid that much, but I don’t think all of them fall into the same category.

  40. How much money does Kris get from the Ford commericals? Maybe like the Disney thing, 100K for them all. I mean, Ford is a major sponsor, so it’s Kris doing the commercials, like part of the show’s deal? Kind of a version of what the Idols have to do every week on the show for Ford. I’m curious because I honestly never thought about this before and we have no data into it.

    Given the contract that commercial actors signed a few years back, I think that unless Kris signed something stating otherwise, that they have to pay him a fee each time the commercials air. But, maybe that’s why they only air on Fox and during AI, maybe the company entered into a different deal with 19. Either way, 19 gets a cut of the deal, and as we see from the basic contract, as Kris’ managers, they are paid at least twice from whatever Kris made.

  41. For some reason, I tended to assume anything the idols earned that was connected to the show in some way (like Coca cola, Disney, etc.) was very minimal…..I thought they HAD to do it because they signed some contract before starting the show that they would. Like trade offs or something. $100,000 a pop for such things is pretty decent.

  42. But, maybe that’s why they only air on Fox and during AI, maybe the company entered into a different deal with 19. Either way, 19 gets a cut of the deal, and as we see from the basic contract, as Kris’ managers, they are paid at least twice from whatever Kris made.

    Exactly, the Ford “commercials” that are part of the regular season, aren’t commercials either. They aren’t played outside of AI, and are just part of the overall sponsorship deal of the show the contestants have to do.

    Live in the Vineyard
    Walmart Shareholders Meeting, Ford Convention, and the CES Convention
    Miami Dolphins Tailgate

    Well as I said, yeah, I can see corporate gigs paying some cash, because well, they have it. Not sure about 100 outside of major corporations like Ford and Walmart. Not in this economy. Not for gratis and/or small events. But hey, if that’s what you say people are paid, okay.

  43. I don’t think Kris had to do the Ford commercials that are currently airing. I’m sure he was paid for them, the question is how much, and how much does 19 get.

  44. I don’t think that Kris would be doing the Ford commercials if he had chosen another model vehicle like Adam did.

  45. babybelle32:
    02/23/2010 at 10:41 pm
    So are you talking the Asian tour, because besides the Las Vegas gigs, hasn’t Kris been doing parts of radio shows, like the Jingle and Meet balls. Is he paid a lot for those? Or am I just missing shows of his?

    And so are you saying that this Asian shows made more than 350k?

    On average, an appearance fee is $100,000. Kris has had other gigs besides the radio sponsored contests, and even with those, I think some were probably for free while others were paid gigs.

    I wouldn’t think BB Kings would pay $100,000 to play an acoustic set for 300-500 people. (at $10 a person) The Meet Ball was for a radio station. (and it was free) Wasn’t the Live in the Vinyard gig for a radio station also? I didn’t think radio stations could pay for gigs. I thought it was play for spins.
    Isn’t that how those Jingle Balls work? It costs the artist money to go and take their band and play. In turn, the radio spins your song.
    Do people really get paid $100,000 to do a tailgate party? I’m surprised at that.

    I don’t think that Kris would be doing the Ford commercials if he had chosen another model vehicle like Adam did.

    What? A Mustang is a Ford also. Isn’t Ford proud of their Mustang model?

  46. Oh and I am curious about what previous winners and runners-up have gotten now, as well. Is that acessible in the same way? Hmmmm.

    I was wondering this as well. Previous seasons also had minors in them, so I’m hoping those contracts were required to be filed in court. I’d love to see someone dig those up and do a comparison. I only ever remember seeing Salon’s feature on the season 1 contract.

  47. I don’t think that Kris would be doing the Ford commercials if he had chosen another model vehicle like Adam did.

    I think Kris would have been back as the winner doing those spots. I think that his choosing a car the company would like to pimp, doesn’t hurt, but I don’t think that if Kris chose another fine Ford automobile, that Ford would waste their sponsorship airtime and relationship with AI and not air Ford Commericals.

    I don’t think Kris had to do the Ford commercials that are currently airing. I’m sure he was paid for them, the question is how much, and how much does 19 get.

    Oh of course he was paid, but given Ford’s relationship to the show, it’s putting those little advirtisements on every week during the regular show, having them as part of the show before the top 12, just makes sense. Wasn’t there an article in NY times last year about how that despite declining viewership, that AI made more money through increased corporate sponsorship things? So maybe this is now part of the AI winnners expected gig. Again, I’m sure Kris got paid, but of course there are no residuals to be had when the ‘commerical’ is just a part of the show, and not shown outside of that. I could see Kris getting a one-time flat feee for all the ‘commericals’ the show put on the air. 100K for that? Sure! I can see that now that I know Disney paid that for saying “I’m going to Disney World.”

    And sure , Kris didn’t HAVE to do the commericals. I mean why have a good relationship with a show his management company is involved with, or a show he will be on in the future to sell more albums/singles? In addition to getting paid whatever it was he was paid for a variety of commercials they probably filmed all at once, and could then play out over several weeks.

  48. “Do people really get paid $100,000 to do a tailgate party? I’m surprised at that.”

    I would say yes. You are talking about an NFL team not a local Junior College. With the big bucks NFL games pull in 100K is a drop in the bucket.

    Isn’t Kris also sponsored by Gibson? Wouldn’t an exclusive contract with them also generate some income?

  49. The Meet Ball was for a radio station. (and it was free) Wasn’t the Live in the Vinyard gig for a radio station also? I didn’t think radio stations could pay for gigs. I thought it was play for spins.
    Isn’t that how those Jingle Balls work? It costs the artist money to go and take their band and play. In turn, the radio spins your song.
    Do people really get paid $100,000 to do a tailgate party? I’m surprised at that.

    Radio stations can’t bring singers in for free, as Truthiness pointed out, that would be payola. I think how much they are willing to pay is dependent on the type of event.

    Live in the Vineyard wasn’t really sponsored by radio stations. The owners of the vineyard are the ones who contacted 19 and invited Kris to participate. Various stations from across the country did hold contests so that their listeners could win tickets to stay at the vineyard and attend the concerts, but since the vineyard owners are the ones who contacted Simon Fuller, it seems like they would be the ones who paid Kris.

    What? A Mustang is a Ford also. Isn’t Ford proud of their Mustang model?

    The commercials are for the Ford Fusion, that’s the model that is being advertised on AI. It doesn’t have anything to do with Ford not being proud of that model, but if you look at the Ford advertising campaign that is currently going on, not just during AI, but also the during the Olympics, that’s not where Ford is spending their ad dollars right now.

    Also, since Disney is one of the corporate sponsors, it would seem that if they are going to pay Kris 100,000 dollars just to appear for 4 minutes in the Christmas Day Parade, then other corporate sponsors would also pay a lot of money for appearances.

  50. KC and the Sunshine Band brought its full production to a wedding, including the background singers and the mirrored ball, for $60,000.

    For $75,000, Michael Bolton appeared at a couple’s wedding and sang “When a Man Loves a Woman” to the bride. “We had a lot of fun when the bride dove into the arms of the groom,” said Barnett, who has booked Bolton three times

    Usher goes for around $175,000.

    I found this information. I’ve seen a list of prices for musical artists somewhere. I wonder what someone like Elton John gets to do a private event?

  51. Isn’t Kris also sponsored by Gibson? Wouldn’t an exclusive contract with them also generate some income?

    Yes and he and his lead guitarist did a promo spot for them. That should be good money too

  52. I would say yes. You are talking about an NFL team not a local Junior College.

    You mean the Miami Dolphis aren’t a junior college? Thanks for clearing that up. :)

    The commercials are for the Ford Fusion, that’s the model that is being advertised on AI. It doesn’t have anything to do with Ford not being proud of that model, but if you look at the Ford advertising campaign that is currently going on, not just during AI, but also the during the Olympics, that’s not where Ford is spending their ad dollars right now.

    Since Adam didn’t win, he didn’t get offered the commercials. Therefore, he got to pick what car he wanted.

    I would have kept the Fusion also if they were going to pay me money to plug it on TV. (Adam would have done the same thing) It would have been a dumb decision if Kris decided to trade in his car and pass up money from commercials. This seems like a no-brainer.
    He can trade it in or sell it in 3 months.

  53. I’d like to know what Adam got paid to sing Time for Miracles?! I’d think a movie song would be worth more than the 100K Disney spot. Yes?

  54. I don’t recall any previous winners getting the opportunity to do something like this

    Yes, AI/19 is being very good to Kris. Plus by looking at the money, they are paying him well. I would like to think this finally puts to rest the idea that 19 is treating Adam better than Kris. Kris is getting pimped every week on AI with the Ford commercials. Adam is being treated like the runner ups from previous seasons have.

  55. I’d like to know what Adam got paid to sing Time for Miracles?! I’d think a movie song would be worth more than the 100K Disney spot. Yes?

    Well, maybe there was a trade-off, since Adam got to put that little gem on his album.

  56. Yes, AI/19 is being very good to Kris. Plus by looking at the money, they are paying him well. I would like to think this finally puts to rest the idea that 19 is treating Adam better than Kris. Kris is getting pimped every week on AI with the Ford commercials. Adam is being treated like runner ups from previous seasons have.

    I don’t think the Ford commercials back this opinion up, since I doubt Kris would be doing them if he’d decided to pick another car. The point of all the commercials, not just Kris’, is that these people actually own a Fusion.

    I still think that Kris and Adam are being treated as co-winners, and the way they are being marketed or not marketed outside of the US is a sign of that.

  57. Well, maybe there was a trade-off, since Adam got to put that little gem on his album.

    Well some people like it :) Last I heard it sold about 90,000 downloads. I’m sure in hindsight, TFM wouldn’t have been included on the album. The problem was that the movie and Adam’s album came out right around the same time. I think they had to roll the dice on it, because if the movie had been huge, the song might have taken off. Either way, I am sure he was paid well for his work on TFM and he probably made some good connections. It certainly wasn’t a bad experience for him.

  58. Hey – from the end of the show on in – it is all about the money. As it should be; it is the sum component of the parts.

  59. I hardly think that showing your current American Idol in a Ford commercial (which is your show’s main sponsor) is “pimping” Kris. It’s not overt enough. It probably just worked out that way, anyway, like a two-fer deal (heh).

    But, given that 19 is the one who greenlights which appearances Kris and Adam get to do and Adam has had a crap load of nationally televised appearances, I’d say 19 is still pimping Adam just a wee bit more than Kris. ;)

    (This does not include radio concerts because that has more to do with Jive’s marketing plan for Kris, not 19’s)

    But I think it’s only because now TPTB is finally starting to see in Kris what Jive already sees in Kris (plus a hit song certainly doesn’t hurt!) and is maybe starting to get on his bandwagon a little bit.

  60. I don’t think the Ford commercials back this opinion up, since I doubt Kris would be doing them if he’d decided to pick another car. The point of all the commercials, not just Kris’, is that these people actually own a Fusion.

    I still think that Kris and Adam are being treated as co-winners, and the way they are being marketed or not marketed outside of the US is a sign of that.

    Sorry, but I have to disagree. I am sure Ford thinks of their marketing campaigns well in advance. I think the plan was that the winner of AI would be featured in the Ford commercials driving the Fusion, and that is why both Kris and Adam were presented with Fusions before the finale. I think that is why Adam got to choose a different vehicle because he wasn’t under contract to do the commericals.

    As far as how they are being marketed outside the US, well that doesn’t have anything to do with AI anymore. That’s up to their record labels. Kris is getting the winner’s treatment on AI, which is the contest he won.

  61. But, given that 19 is the management company who approves which appearances Kris and Adam get to do and Adam has had a crap load of nationally televised appearances (not including radio concerts because that has more to do with Jive’s vote-of-confidence marketing plan, not 19’s) I’d say 19 is still pimping Adam just a wee bit more than Kris.

    Kris and Adam appear on the shows they are invited to. If Adam is invited to appear on more shows than Kris, how is that 19’s doing? I certainly do not think 19 would ever turn down a national tv appearance for Kris.

    19 needs Kris to be successful. He is the winner of AI and it is important for the franchise that the winners do well.

  62. Radio stations can’t bring singers in for free, as Truthiness pointed out, that would be payola. I think how much they are willing to pay is dependent on the type of event.

    But they’re not called legal payola for nothin’. The radio station wants to make money by selling tickets, the big payout for the stars that participate isn’t the money they earn for the gig, but radio spins. So if a performer was too expensive, than there won’t be money for the stations. So I’m sure the money for those things is necessarily modest. Otherwise there would be less of a point rom radio’s side of things.

    Live in the Vineyard wasn’t really sponsored by radio stations. The owners of the vineyard are the ones who contacted 19 and invited Kris to participate. Various stations from across the country did hold contests so that their listeners could win tickets to stay at the vineyard and attend the concerts, but since the vineyard owners are the ones who contacted Simon Fuller, it seems like they would be the ones who paid Kris.

    I think this is another case of what the market will bear. Maybe it is 100K for Kris, but looking at the scheduled artists this month for Live in the Vineyard, one has a range of artists from Jason Castro, Macy Gray to The Train. The Train are the most successful of the three, so probably are able to get more. But certainly not everyone who performs gets the same amount of money. So was Kris Allen getting 100K for that gig in particular? Or if it’s more of the same kind of legal payola things like the Jingle Balls are purported to be. Sure his management company will want to get the maximum bang for the buck, so they might not be willing to have the AI winner do a gig for less than 100K. But then again they might if there are things besides money they get out of it. As for the NFL tailgate party? Well the NFL certainly has the money to pay that out, would they for a tailgate party for a relatively unimportant game? possibly, sure. I mean, why else would Kris do it? but that he was getting a hefty fee. Hmmm. 100K though seems a bit steep for that. I mean, he’s no Jimmy Buffet, at least not in FL and I don’t think Jimmy Buffet is getting 100K for his show.

  63. Sorry, but I have to disagree. I am sure Ford thinks of their marketing campaigns well in advance. I think the plan was that the winner of AI would be featured in the Ford commercials driving the Fusion, and that is why both Kris and Adam were presented with Fusions before the finale. I think that is why Adam got to choose a different vehicle because he wasn’t under contract to do the commericals.

    Exactly what I thought.

    Yes, AI/19 is being very good to Kris. Plus by looking at the money, they are paying him well. I would like to think this finally puts to rest the idea that 19 is treating Adam better than Kris. Kris is getting pimped every week on AI with the Ford commercials. Adam is being treated like runner ups from previous seasons have.

    True. This article just shows that Kris is getting the winner’s treatment. There are definitely advantages to winning. Adan is having to work harder for his sales and successes.

  64. The AI artists are already seen as a kind of slaves of the production, if the contestants worked for pennies, it would cause bad will towards the production.

    Especially when you think of what Simon makes.

  65. Well some people like it Last I heard it sold about 90,000 downloads. I’m sure in hindsight, TFM wouldn’t have been included on the album. The problem was that the movie and Adam’s album came out right around the same time. I think they had to roll the dice on it, because if the movie had been huge, the song might have taken off. Either way, I am sure he was paid well for his work on TFM and he probably made some good connections. It certainly wasn’t a bad experience for him.

    The movie made over 166 million dollars domestically and over 600 million dollars from other countries. The movie was a hit, but the song didn’t benefit from that because stations refused to play it, and because since the song was played during the end credits, people really didn’t form an attachment to it. I won’t mention that for many the song is just bad, which is one of the reasons why PDs didn’t want to play it.

  66. Sorry, but I have to disagree. I am sure Ford thinks of their marketing campaigns well in advance. I think the plan was that the winner of AI would be featured in the Ford commercials driving the Fusion, and that is why both Kris and Adam were presented with Fusions before the finale. I think that is why Adam got to choose a different vehicle because he wasn’t under contract to do the commericals.

    Exactly!

    You don’t have to be sorry, but this is a guess, that’s not based on the facts that we have. In an interview that both Kris and Adam did after the received the cars, Kris said that he stuck with the Fusion because that’s the car that his wife wanted. We don’t have any proof that Kris knew at the time that he was going to be in a Ford commercial, so I’m going to take his word for why he decided to stick with the Fusion.

    Kris and Adam were presented with Fusions, because that is the car that Ford had been advertising on AI all season long, it’s also the car that Ford is putting all of their hope in, and the one that they have been advertising the most.

  67. But they’re not called legal payola for nothin’. The radio station wants to make money by selling tickets, the big payout for the stars that participate isn’t the money they earn for the gig, but radio spins. So if a performer was too expensive, than there won’t be money for the stations. So I’m sure the money for those things is necessarily modest

    That’s what I thought also. I’ve read that for months on this board. I thought that’s how these radio gigs work.

  68. The movie made over 166 million dollars domestically and over 600 million dollars from other countries.

    It made money, but it wasn’t a blockbuster in the sense that people went back to see it over and over again. Also there was no merchandise tie-in. No collapsing globe in happy meals, etc. No John Cusack action figurines. I never went to see it in the theater, but I’m sure I’ll watch it on cable. The reviews for it were terrible. They were “it’s so bad it’s almost good.” Hey but it was a paying gig. Adam sings the song very well.

    I do think the song is more popular overseas. At least that is what I recall reading. It is being spun somewhere out there. Probably Belguim or someplace with a very small population. It’s an ok song. I usually skip over it when I listen to his CD and I would have preferred another song on there. Hey, it is what it is, a power ballad.

  69. Adan is having to work harder for his sales and successes.

    I totally disagree with this. The free promotion that the media has given Adam has resulted in a lot of his sales and radio play, in contrast, Kris hasn’t gotten that same advantage. Kris has gotten more radio gigs and done more radio promotion, which has helped his air play, but he had to work his butt off for those, and couldn’t rely on the media hyping him up, and creating buzz about him.

  70. We don’t have any proof that Kris knew at the time that he was going to be in a Ford commercial, so I’m going to take his word for why he decided to stick with the Fusion.

    I think Kris is a sweetheart, but he isn’t the best communicator and often times he is very vague. Like the first time he mentioned he was going to Haiti because “someone hooked him up.” It ended up being Simon Fuller, so why didn’t he say it at the time?

    I don’t think there is anything wrong with Kris getting the Fusion and being told to drive it for a few months because they want to do an honest commercial about him owning it. I think that is a win win for everyone.

  71. It made money, but it wasn’t a blockbuster in the sense that people went back to see it over and over again.

    A movie making over 100 million is a blockbuster, and one making that much money overseas is almost unheard of. In the US, it was the 15th highest grossing film of 2009, and the 5th highest grossing film in terms of worldwide receipts. I don’t know how you know that it didn’t reach that total by people seeing it on multiple occasions, but even if this wasn’t the case, it would still be good news for TFM, since more people would have heard the song, and if they liked it, purchased it.

    The movie was not the problem with that song not selling or not being played on the radio.
    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=2012.htm

  72. Babybelle, yes it made money, but it wasn’t like a Spider Man 3 that made three times that amount domestically. Transformers 2 made over 400,000 million domestically. I don’t want to quote myself, but I will.

    It made money, but it wasn’t a blockbuster in the sense that people went back to see it over and over again.

    I really doubt that anyone went to see that movie more than once. :) By the way, I never said TFM was a great song. I even said I wished there was a different song on the album. You brought up the fact that Adam got to put that “gem” on his album. I think if 2012 had been a hit like Spider Man, the song may have done marginally better. Not alot better, because I think the song has a dated sound, but perhaps marginally better. Either way, I don’t think the song hurt him.

  73. Kelly Clarkson’s Breakaway was a huge radio hit, and launched her second album, the movie that it was from made less than 100 million dollars in the US and around 40 million outside of the US.

    Yes, the Princess Dairies was a very popular movie and Kelly’s song was very good. I will say it again, I don’t think TFM is that good of a song because it has a dated sound. If the movie had been better it might have sold a bit more, but like I have said before, probably not a lot more. I think we are on the same page here. We also have to increase box office revenues to match inflation, but it really doesn’t matter. TFM is just an ok song.

  74. They didn’t have Adam or Kris’s actual contract. They had the contract that had to be filed for Allison and Archie as minors with the court. It probably was the standard Idol contract detailing what the prizes and restrictions were. Doesn’t mean that those contracts didn’t change if RCA/19 wanted to sign someone for a longer period or include other revenue streams that weren’t originally planned for in the standard Idol contract.

    Interesting. I guess it makes sense that they wouldn’t have Adam’s or Kris’ actual contract. Either one of them could have changes to their individual contracts. We’ll never know.

    Winners have never failed to earn $1M in the year or so after the contest

    Didn’t Archie earn $1M last year? Pretty good for a runner-up!

  75. Does anyone remember exactly when that article came out that mentioned how much DC and Archie made? I’m trying to figure how long it took them to earn the amounts that were listed (I think 2 mill for DC and 1.3 for Archie?). Some of the same winner stuff was probably applied to DC like the Disney spots/parade and, he didn’t have the Ford commercials but he landed the Global Skechers deal shortly after he won and was already touring..I’m assuming Adam and Archie would have slightly different contracts since Archie wasnt managed by 19 right?

  76. A movie making over 100 million is a blockbuster, and one making that much money overseas is almost unheard of. In the US, it was the 15th highest grossing film of 2009, and the 5th highest grossing film in terms of worldwide receipts.

    Not if the film cost 150 million to make, or spent another 50 million on advertising. Eh. 2012 was an underperformer in the US, and only did okay with it’s worldwide take.

    So as to how popular it was here, eh. It’s not a real/major blockbuster or phenom, the way a film like Avatar, or even something like The Hangover were. So how this would impact a song’s profits? who know? But in any event, it wasn’t helped by the songs sucking.

    Oh and I think that regardless of whether Kris kept the car, that Ford would have had him do Fushion commercials. He’s a good looking guy, Ford wants to have ads on the show before the show begins it’s next crop of Ford ads. The show is, as per that NY Time article, increasing it’s sponsorship relationship to make up for revenue lost to declinging viewership. And in a year when Paula was gone beforehand, Simon will be going, that kind of increased relationship might have seemed even more needed at the beginning of the season. Ratings might have not done well, and indeed, have had nights of slippage. So yes it’s nice for Kris to have a Fusion, but I don’t think Ford of all things, would have the scruples or care that his not having one, would get in the way of their wanting Kris, as the AI winner, to advertise for it on the show. I mean, not like the kids not having Fords ever matters during the regular show when they’re hawking it. And heck, with getting these commercials, and whatever flat-one time fee Kris would have ended up getting from Ford, not like he couldn’t have bought a Fusion, ostensibly for himself, and have the wife drive the other Ford car gift. That would still have been a great investment by Kris, if Ford or he, felt that he couldn’t sell the car without (also) owning one. But eally the idea that Ford, or anyone on AI has any shame in terms of advetising, just amuses me. These guys are shameless with pimping on the show. Be it certain contestants or their corporate products. And they’re cheesy while being shameless. So the idea that Ford would lose out on the chance to have a presumably popular winner, on the still most successful show on TV, because of imagined scruples that it wasn’t real enough…I’m just not seeing it. I mean, we have all seen/suffered through those commericals for years, right? Have we seen the same FordPimpmercials? Because really.
    What we do know, Kris did a Ford commerical, got paid an unknown by anyone amount of money. Just like we have heard other people getting paid for somethings in the past, we have no idea of how much Kris is paid for things now, and what things he’s paid for.

    I hope that it’s a fair amount of money, same for Adam. Yay for both of them. I hope they both get more in the future and are successful for years to come.

  77. I remember in a couple of radio interviews Kris was asked what he was going to do with his money and if he was going to buy a new car, maybe a sports car.

    Kris said that Ford gave him a car…the DJ’s were like “uh, but it is a Ford and not a sports car” and Kris said so I don’t need a new car since Ford gave him one. And in the commercial Kris said when he drove his Ford Fusion to the Napa concert he was watching the “leafs” move. I believe Cale wrote that when he and Kris went to Napa to perform they drove.

    Here is the video of Kris and Adam getting their cars. Adam got the Mustang and Kris got the Ford Fusion, the car in the commercial.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcN9irzk0X8

    So I guess Kris Allen does drive the Ford Fusion around.

  78. Finally, some information about what the Idols are earning. I have always wondered why it was treated as top secret. It was like it was taboo to wonder about such things even though there was plenty of info about the huge amounts the show was making.

    Ford would not be using Kris in the commercials if they didn’t think they were effective. They also show other ads for Fusion on the same shows but, to me, Kris’ are always the best. He comes across as just a guy talking about the features on this new car he just got. I don’t know what kind of deal they have with the show or Kris but I do know that if they didn’t like the commercials, they wouldn’t be running them. I’ll make a guess, too, and say that I think they were probably very pleasantly surprised at how well Kris did when they filmed the commercials and possibly are running them more often than planned.

    Anyhow, this whole subject of Idol earnings is interesting. I wish they could all make oodles of money.

  79. I think for me, it is easier to believe the Kris earned these commercials because he won AI. Why does Kris always have to be the underdog here? The guy did win AI so why wouldn’t he be featured. It would make no sense to feature Adam. He didn’t win. Even if Kris gave up his Fusion, I still think they would have featured him in the Ford commercials…because he won AI.

    I always assume kris was in the commercial because he is the reigning americal idol. there are perks that come with winning. this commercial is prominently featured during all AI shows, ford is a big sponsor of the show, of course Kris would be in the commercial. it would make no sense for any other s8 contestant to be in it

  80. Does anyone remember exactly when that article came out that mentioned how much DC and Archie made?

    i’m sure these figures for both will be higher when they compile the list for 2009.

    Forbes List of American Idol top Earners of 2008:

    1. Carrie Underwood – Winner, 4th Season @ $14 Million

    2. Jennifer Hudson – Finalist, 3rd Season @ $5 Million

    3. Kelly Clarkson – Winner, 1st Season @ $4.2 Million

    4. Jordin Sparks – Winner, 6th Season @ $3.1 Million

    5. Kellie Pickler – 6th Place Contestant, 5th Season @ $2.3 Million

    6. Clay Aiken – 1st Runner up, 2nd Season @ $2.2 Million

    7. Chris Daughtry – 4th Place, 5th Season @ $2 Million

    8.

    David Cook – Winner, 7th Season @ $2 Million

    Forbes estimates that Cook generated the bulk of his income from the 1.1 million copies sold of his self-titled major label debut album. Cook supplemented his music sales with a live tour and a product sponsorship deal with sneaker maker Skechers.

    9.

    David Archuleta – 2nd Place, 7th Season @ $1.3 Million

    Cook’s final competitor, David Archuleta, has also enjoyed a remarkably lucrative year since making it to the Idol finals. Archuleta made an estimated $1.3 million from sales of his first album and more than 100 live concerts.

    10. Taylor Hicks – Winner, 5th Season @ $300, 000

    To come up with our list of the top-earning American Idol alums we totaled earnings from album sales, concerts, merchandising and other income sources for the past year.

    http://www.forbes.com/2009/05/18/top-earning-american-idols-business-media-idols.html

  81. Sorry, but I have to disagree. I am sure Ford thinks of their marketing campaigns well in advance. I think the plan was that the winner of AI would be featured in the Ford commercials driving the Fusion, and that is why both Kris and Adam were presented with Fusions before the finale. I think that is why Adam got to choose a different vehicle because he wasn’t under contract to do the commericals.

    My understanding is that they were each given a voucher for X amount of money (roughly equal to the price of a fusion)to purchase a ford vehicle of their choice. I am sure kris would have been in the ford commercial regardless of what car he ultimately decided to drive. I mean, other than a few zealous fans, who in the world has knowledge of what car he drives in real life? most commercial actors (actors, real people etc.) do not necessarily drive the same car they are promoting.

  82. I always assume kris was in the commercial because he is the reigning americal idol. there are perks that come with winning.

    ”to the victor belong the spoils”… The ”spoils” of victory are the extra bonuses, perks, and treasure you get for winning. this military based quote applies in this situation, as it should. what significance or incentive would winning any contest or campaign be, american idol in this case, if the victor didn’t receive the lion’s share of the perks/promo/endorsement deals, etc… we’re in what’s called a capitalist, free market society, and opportunities abound for the contestants to pursue things that maximize their earning potential, but it’s no surprise or mental stretch to accept that winners should be receiving a larger share of those kinds of spoils, especially in the 1st year after the show…

  83. to the victor belong the spoils”… The ‘’spoils” of victory are the extra bonuses, perks, and treasure you get for winning. this military based quote applies in this situation, as it should. what significance or incentive would winning any contest or campaign be, american idol in this case, if the victor didn’t receive the lion’s share of the perks/promo/endorsement deals, etc… we’re in what’s called a capitalist, free market society, and opportunities abound for the contestants to pursue things that maximize their earning potential, but it’s no surprise or mental stretch to accept that winners should be receiving a larger share of those kinds of spoils, especially in the 1st year after the show…

    There are perks, appearances, and payments made solely to the winner. These are the tangible benefits to winning. You don’t need to win to have a successful music career/record contract/magazine covers/appearances on tv shows. And by not winning you are not barred from receiving a contract/appearances/media coverage/promotion so that only the winner is in the public eye. But if you are the winner, you do get certain opportunities and payments and levels of payments that are not available to the non-winners.

  84. I think if 2012 had been a hit like Spider Man, the song may have done marginally better.

    Just wanted to take a moment to debunk this. Avatar has been a HUGE success. The song by Leona L,not so much. I really think for a movie song to really take off, it has to be integrated into the movie such that it MEANs something to the audience. Breakaway is a good example. A great song but also it was a part of the movie so you actually heard it. And the movie was 3 hrs long,meaning when it was over you were soooo ready to leave. I only heard that Avatar on its premier.

  85. Well, Ryan just signed a contract for 45mil and God knows what Simon is making this year. So the $ the winners make is small change compared to them. I figured Kris got the Ford gig because he won Idol. Other past winners have done similiar commercials. They must like him though because he’s done a bunch of different ones.

  86. You don’t need to win to have a successful music career/record contract/magazine covers/appearances on tv shows. And by not winning you are not barred from receiving a contract/appearances/media coverage/promotion so that only the winner is in the public eye. But if you are the winner, you do get certain opportunities and payments and levels of payments that are not available to the non-winners.

    i totally, 100 percent agree… my comment about our free market society was meant to help illustrate this point… idol is a fantastic launching pad for these contestants, opening doors for many lucrative opportunities to increase their income and earnings… ”winning”, or placing 1st does, and i think should, mean something tangible, should confer more perks for the winner, or what would be the point, or the incentive for anyone to enter into any sort of contest, competition or campaign… i agree that ”winning”, or placing 1st is no guarantor of success, and doesn’t preclude anyone from going on to reap good benefits in a financial sense… kelli pickler is one fine example of that, as is jhud, daughtry, clay, and david a…

  87. Even when a runner up is popular (Daughtry), the Ford commercial goes to the winner (Hicks). Never been an exception as far I recall.

  88. Even when a runner up is popular (Daughtry), the Ford commercial goes to the winner (Hicks). Never been an exception as far I recall.

    i can’t recall it any other way either jpfan… i do believe it’s one of those “spoils” that come with the package for the idol winner. i see or have no problem with that…

  89. Kris & Adams’s albums ($7.99) are still moving up the iTunes sales
    #35. Kris Allen – Kris Allen
    #65. For Your Entertainment – Adam Lambert

    Singles:
    #22. Whataya Want from Me – Adam Lambert
    #23. Live Like We’re Dying – Kris Allen

  90. It’s not like these commercials are part of the package of winning AI. I don’t recall any previous winners getting the opportunity to do something like this.

    see jpfan’s comment… i saw the hicks commercial a gazillion times when it was aired following his win… :)

    Taylor Hicks’ 2006 Ford Commercial
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRsYZHfHgBc

  91. I think season 5 and now season 8 were the only years where there was a Ford commercial featuring a winner. I know Kelly also did a Ford commercial but it was several years after she won.

    Thanks ggdoorsfan! Thats interesting they mention their albums being a main source of the money they made. I didnt think artists got much from those.

  92. I’m actually more interested in knowing what they spend all that money on. A penny saved is a penny earned, right? Hahaha.

    Kris seems to be particularly stingy. So, I’d say he’s filthy rich!!! :)

  93. I wonder with the TFM music video on the 2012 DVD, there Adam’s management didn’t negotiate a percentage from sales, even if it’s a very small percentage it could add up.

    This is all very interesting. Did we ever find out what the Top 10 made for the AI tour?

  94. I think season 5 and now season 8 were the only years where there was a Ford commercial featuring a winner. I know Kelly also did a Ford commercial but it was several years after she won.

    voila! ;)

    “Go” (Ford Commercial) Kelly Clarkson
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAYAEahTf7w

  95. I hope Elliot Yamin is now among the decent earners as well. I heard him on the radio this week end. He so deserves it.

  96. Exactly, the Ford “commercials” that are part of the regular season, aren’t commercials either. They aren’t played outside of AI, and are just part of the overall sponsorship deal of the show the contestants have to do.

    Actually, I saw Kris’ (post-Idol) Ford commercials on the Olympics several times. They are indeed being played on other networks and shows like any other Ford commercial. Taylor Hicks’ commercials were played everywhere too (excessively, and I like Taylor). But yeah, the ones made for the show stay on the show.

  97. Actually, I saw Kris’ (post-Idol) Ford commercials on the Olympics several times. They are indeed being played on other networks and shows like any other Ford commercial.

    Haven’t seen them anywhere but during AI, but it’s good to know that they are being used elsewhere (and why not since they are good!). Will watch for them now!

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